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Sept. 25, 2002 - Art Bell
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Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell - Viruses, Chemtrails, & Vaccines - Dr. Leonard Horowitz
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This is Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell on the Premier Radio Network.
Good morning, everybody.
I am Art Bell.
In a moment, we're gonna get real serious on you with Dr. Leonard D. Horowitz.
Who recently testified in front of a Senate Judiciary Committee.
Big national news all about the statements made by one of our Senators, Senator Patrick Leahy, of possibility of a certain virus that's spreading its way across the country right now.
West Nile.
Having been deliberately set loose on us, And Dr. Horowitz testified tonight.
He will testify here about all this really, really, really serious stuff.
However, I do want to point out, before we begin, that up on my website tonight, I've got all kinds of goodies for you.
Where you're about to hear is up there.
I'll link to it.
Brilliant stuff.
Comedy.
Just all sorts of things happening.
That never-before-seen picture with myself and Zahi Awas, the man we talked about last hour, with a particularly good photograph of the Sphinx in the background.
Very high detail.
You might want to take a look at that.
That was taken, by the way, by Bob Crane.
A video of a cat attack that's absolutely amazing.
All of this on my website at artbill.com.
One of the things up there Uh, is what is the following.
Uh, you're just not gonna believe this.
Listen very carefully.
Crocodile hunter here in the wilds of Afghanistan.
On the trail of a fierce and elusive Osama bin Laden.
The bin Laden is a native of Saudi Arabia, but recently migrated to Afghanistan where it caused no end of trouble upsetting the natural order of things, you know.
Hold on, I think I see one there.
You have to approach the bin line with extreme caution.
And when you make the grab in, don't go for the turban.
It'll come right off.
My preferred method is to just grab him by the beard.
Gotcha!
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Ha! Order it, little fellow, ain't he?
And just look at those teeth!
Actually, I think those teeth are usually good.
Brush it!
And I just happen to have a nice wire brush here.
All better now, except for this one who's in the front here that just has to come out!
Fortunately, a good wildlife management professional always carries a pair of pliers.
Now many people think the only good bin laden's a dead bin laden, and kill them on sight.
But I've found that his behaviour can be modified quite effectively with neutering.
And all you need for that is a nice sharp box cutter to cut off his nads like this!
And then you can safely release him back into the wild, confident that he'll become docile in short order.
And don't throw away the nads.
They make a tasty treat when roasted slowly over an open fire, and served up with red, white, and blue sauce, just the way you Yank like them.
G'day for now, mates, and be sure to tune in next time when we go off in search of the strange and wily Salam Hussain.
This is one of the things tonight up on the website.
We're going to get real serious in a moment.
Hey, right there.
Okay we're about to get very serious here.
Dr. Leonard Horowitz is an internationally known authority in the overlapping fields of public health, behavioral science, emerging diseases, and bioterrorism.
He received his doctorate in medical dentistry from Tufts University School of Dental Medicine in 1977.
was awarded a post-doctoral fellowship in behavioral science at the University of Rochester, earned a Master of Public Health degree from Harvard, and another Master of Arts degree in health education from Beacon College, all before joining the research facility at Harvard.
Dr. Horowitz is perhaps best known for the monumental national best-selling book, Emerging Viruses, AIDS, and Ebola, Nature, Accident, or Intentional, which recently resulted in the U.S.
General Accounting Office investigating the man-made origin of AIDS theory.
Dr. Horowitz's brilliant work in the field of vaccination risk awareness has prompted at least three world nations to change their vaccination policies.
His recent stunning testimony was just in the news before the U.S.
Congress.
A government reform committee literally brought the hearing to a halt Dr. Horowitz questioned government health officials regarding the Center for Disease Control and Prevention report, which showed a definite link between the mercury ingredient common to all vaccinations and the skyrocketing rates of autism and behavioral disorders affecting our children and the future of our nation.
Dr. Horowitz's book, Death in the Air, Globalism, Terrorism, and Toxic Warfare, focuses on the West Nile virus as an act of bioterrorism.
Very recently, you may have heard that Senator Patrick Leahy, Democrat of Vermont, Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, called for an investigation into the links between the recent West Nile virus outbreaks and bioterrorism.
Dr. Horowitz is the principal pioneer and investigator of this theory.
Here is Dr. Leonard Horowitz.
Doctor, welcome.
Well, thank you, Art.
Appreciate the invitation.
It's great to have you back.
It's been, what, about three years?
Yep, you got it.
Alright, well, I was shocked, and I think a lot of the rest of the country was shocked, when Senator Leahy just sort of, it seemed like, out of the blue, called for an investigation into the possibility of recent West Nile virus outbreaks being an act of bioterrorism.
I think that really caught a lot of people by surprise.
Yes, I know a fair amount.
could not have been uh... as it seemed at the time uh... sort of a spontaneous
decision on his part uh... no way there had to be an awful lot
behind it and i'm sure you know that story don't you yes i don't care about
i know that there and they have in their hands
one of the most incriminating documents that really shows that mainstream media has been completely
off-base in telling folks the first time that the west alabama's
in North America was...
That's an outrageous lie.
In fact, we have documentation, and so does the Senator, that the The virus itself, at least two strains of it, was sent from the United States to Saddam Hussein and Iraq for use in biological weapons research and development back in 1985.
And that Centers for Disease Control supplied that documentation to not just the Senator's office, but basically the entire Congress during an investigation into Gulf War Syndrome.
Okay, back up a little bit.
We have documentation that the U.S.
sent Saddam Hussein samples of the West Nile virus Along with 19 shipments of anthrax and various other biologicals.
And this occurred in what year, please?
Well, it occurred throughout the 1980s, that it was well documented.
And that was one of the issues that the Senator was concerned about, although he did not come out with that in the mainstream press and cite that.
I spoke to his press secretary and David definitely admitted that and was very concerned about that, knew the Senator was, and that was one of the reasons why, along with other documents, he was calling for this type of an investigation.
Doctor, I understand that we favored Iraq in the Iran-Iraq War.
Perhaps that was the justification at the time for doing something like that, but even that wouldn't seem to justify sending such dangerous materials to somebody like Saddam Hussein, even in the eighties, I mean, what was the possible, possible justification for doing that?
Well, I think you've got to look at a profit motive.
For example, when you consider who it was that was sending this type of thing, it's not often that this organization is cited.
It's the American-type culture collection.
That's what's in the congressional record.
They are apparently a for-profit private entity that doles out biologicals for not just biological weapons research and development, but also cancer research, vaccine research and development.
Many, in fact, most researchers think of it as a benign organization, but when you start passing it out all over the world to people who are less than trustworthy, and, you know, I certainly believe that.
You're saying, ostensibly, the motivation then, at least on paper, would have been research and development and research in disease and all the rest of it, but we knew damn well what Iraq was doing over there.
Right.
Also, you have to understand, I'm sure you do, that George H.W.
Bush Sr.
was supplying Saddam Hussein with military armaments two weeks before he invaded Kuwait, along with biologicals and chemicals, and that when the Gulf War troops went to the Gulf, they were not only fighting toxic vaccinations that are on government was supplied but
also exposures to biologicals and chemicals that we supplied to saddam and
that was covered up there's no question about that the major cover-up in
regard to go for center
home right now
our president is busily trying his very best to make a case to go to war with iraq
and i know that as of yet he is not given us any real specifics
with regard to what uh... what he believes that i was saying to have
in his arsenal And one of the reasons why he hasn't spelled it out yet for the American public could possibly be that the reason he hasn't done that is because he knows damn well what Saddam has, because we gave it to him.
I believe that.
I mean, that's a fact.
It's not even debatable.
Okay.
So we've got to go fight the devil we created.
Exactly.
That's what it comes down to.
And I think one step beyond that, who's to say that the devil that we've created is not a partner in a global issue that we're facing?
And that's what I'm looking at.
I'm looking at virtually the Bush administration, the Bush family, having been invested in what amounts to genocide.
And I define it, I don't use that term just superficially or sensationally.
It is strictly defined out of Webster's dictionary as the mass killing of people for economic, political, and or ideological reasons.
And when you really... So in other words, that's a very serious charge when you say genocide.
So you mean, in that we supplied materials that we're talking about right here, Yeah, exactly.
And look, you have to understand who it is that is engaged in this type of activity.
We're really not talking about who government officials would like to have you believe.
We're not talking about, for example, in the anthrax case, the anthrax mailings case, you're not talking about like a single white Right-wing Christian Patriot who's in his basement creating biologicals.
You're talking about a well research-funded, high-tech organization such as a pharmaceutical company, such as one that has major links to the highest levels in the government, and that's precisely the documentation that we lay out.
that I believe that the Senator is aware of and that part of why he called for this type
of an investigation is because, for example, he's aware that who supplied Saddam Hussein
with 19 shipments of anthrax during the 1980s was curated, the organization ATCC, American
Type Culture Collection, was curated by Dr. Joshua Lederberg, who is past president of
Rockefeller University, who in fact lied before the United States government, lied before
of Congress lie before the United States people, the American people.
And said what?
And said that no, our troops during the Gulf War did not, were not exposed to biologicals and chemicals, when in fact his own organization supplied them.
And that this organization routinely works intimately with the pharmaceutical industrials that are literally behind the scams that we're looking at, such as the West Nile.
All right, let's back up a little bit to West Nile virus itself.
What is, what the hell is West Nile virus?
I understand it is spread to nearly every state in the Union, save mine and one or two others.
It's everywhere in the U.S.
now, even California, all the way to the West Coast.
What is West Nile virus?
Well, technically, it's called an arbovirus.
It's a tree-like virus.
It looks kind of like a tree.
It has little branches.
It's related to St.
Louis encephalitis, Japanese encephalitis, and the earliest one on record is 1937, discovered in the West Nile region of northwest Uganda and then shipped to Rockefeller University very quickly around 1938.
There in those labs it was used, it was sent from there to the Yale University culture, the viral culture service at Yale.
This is also related and funded largely by Rockefeller monies, and that from there, apparently, there's a fair amount of evidence that suggests it was sent to Plum Island Labs for experimentation there.
Well, was it that, or would they say, if I were to interview the right person, oh no, not biological warfare, this was something that we knew existed on Earth, and we had to find a way, or we're trying to find a way to fight it.
Well, again, that's always what can be claimed.
For example, when Nixon took over the Fort Detrick facilities in 1972 and said that we're turning swords into plowshares by making this the new home of the National Cancer Institute and we're no longer going to have this act as biological weapons research and development here.
Essentially what he did was a cover, sending all of biological weapons research and development under the guise of cancer research.
And again, every time you read a statement in the press, and you frequently see it, that we're only doing this for defense.
Well, in order to have a vaccine or a defense, and I don't trust vaccines in the least to deliver defense, but I mean there's many alternatives that we could talk about in terms of boosting immunity against infectious diseases, but the sacred cow of public health and the government is vaccines because these are the vaccine industrials that are largely behind the scam and it's a profit-making entity.
And so, what they're telling us is that where we have to do prevention, we have to do defensive research, but in order to do defensive research, you have to have the biological weapon first.
You've got to have the stuff.
You've got to have the time.
Yes, exactly.
And they're developing that.
I mean, there is that case to make.
You say they make it every time, and I agree.
They probably use that as a convenient cover, and it's true to some degree, but it also allows them to then begin working on Offensive uses, obviously, of what they're researching.
Exactly.
So, West Nile virus is loose.
I mean, cats out of the bag, horse out of the barn, whatever.
Too late.
What's going to happen with West Nile now?
Well, again, what I really am very disturbed about is that this is now, they say, mutating.
Now, that's very convenient.
Apparently.
It is mutated.
Well, they're saying, they're talking about various strains that can cause various types of encephalopathies and neurological impairments, such as a polio-like syndrome.
This just came out very recently.
Now, again, that very, uh, disturbs me.
Why?
Because I look back last summer, and I see that in the press, even mainstream press, you had declared a new polio virus was produced at Rockefeller University Labs.
So, let's look at this rationally as human beings, Art.
Why would you go about, if you've eradicated smallpox or polio, and then produce a whole new strain, creating a whole new threat, for the sake of humanity?
I think that that's insane.
And I think that also that when we're looking about the fright that just occurred this past couple days with the Bush administration's release of the smallpox vaccination recommendations for mass vaccinations in the wake of a single case of smallpox, you know, who has that?
It's been eradicated for decades.
Who has it?
Virtually only a few labs in Russia and the United States.
To make such a sweeping statement about vaccinations, I can only presume they know something that we don't know yet.
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It was about two weeks ago we started to get word that, oh, the blood supply is safe.
Do you remember that?
And I said, that's what they've said before, and you better take that with a word of caution.
Pinch of salt.
Whatever it is you take those kind of things with.
Well, listen to this breaking news right now from Atlanta.
The Associated Press, no less.
Government health officials are warning doctors that the West Nile virus can cause acute paralysis.
That's acute paralysis.
After the mosquito-borne virus apparently caused six people to become paralyzed, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention urged doctors to test patients for West Nile if they report sudden, painless paralysis.
But don't appear to have had a stroke.
This warning comes as health officials confirmed that the West Nile virus can apparently be transmitted through blood transfusions and said that all blood donations will probably be screened for the virus as soon as a test can be developed.
Birds are a natural host for the virus.
That's the latest at this hour on West Nile.
We'll be right back.
This is the end of Side 1.
one just a little more from this uh... just breaking associate
press story dot Dr. Jesse Goodman of the Food and Drug Administration said that all blood donations will probably be screened for the virus,
As soon as a test can be developed, he could not predict how long it would take to develop such a test.
Or how much it might cost.
What we're trying to do is a jump-start process here, he said.
But screening for the virus could prove difficult.
West Nile is much harder to detect than a virus such as HIV, because there are relatively small amounts of West Nile-intended blood.
Furthermore, a screening would have to detect the virus itself, not just antibodies the body produces in response to it, because the virus spends several days in the bloodstream before any symptoms show up.
So, there you have it, Doctor.
That's the latest breaking story I've got on West Nile.
Kind of ominous.
Well, that's part of the picture.
You know, as I was saying, Art, the whole, not only West Nile virus, but also the smallpox and the anthrax, scams.
And I call them scams because what you're seeing is standard Machiavellian fare.
That is, you're creating problems well in advance and you're getting opportunity well in advance to produce the profit Products and services, everything from these types of services, screening services, blood testing services to pharmaceuticals.
And I think that it's classic.
This is absolutely classic.
It fulfills what was discussed in the report from Iron Mountain to create as a substitute for standard militarization and population controls.
For burgeoning populations, to lower the populations, what you'd need to have is economic substitutes for standard military operations in the 21st century.
Doctor, now that West Nile virus is loose, who's at risk in this country right now, and what should we look for?
What are the symptoms?
I just want to get the base of this.
In other words, people tend to look at the present threat, and God, there's mosquitoes out there, Birds carrying it, and so let's go back to basics for just one second.
Who's at risk here, and what are the symptoms you got to look out for?
Well, we've donated a fair amount of space on the website healingcelebrations.com to the West Nile issue.
Who's at risk primarily is the people who are immune compromised, the elderly, children who have immune system problems.
Those are the ones that are far and away the people who are suffering thus far.
Again, if we're looking at new mutating types of West Nile viruses, which apparently we are, you know, it's a question as to what's going to happen in the future.
What we're recommending on the HealingCelebrations.com website is that people begin to take responsibility for boosting their immune systems holistically, naturally, every way possible.
We're talking about physically, mentally, emotionally, socially, environmentally, and above all, spiritually.
And that's what we ourselves are doing.
Were you aware of this paralysis aspect of West Nile?
Well, yeah, it's part of the encephalopathies and the meningitis types of effects that this virus has been known to produce in some cases.
They're rare.
They're very rare.
The vast majority of people who are infected with West Nile have not even minor symptoms and maybe at worst a little flu-like
symptoms maybe a little rash.
That's about it. People ultimately who are immune-compromised however can go on to develop
these inflammations of the brain and that swelling of the brain, impairments of neurological functioning
and as your article stated then perhaps potentially polio-like problems, paralysis.
This doesn't sound like a very effective population control disease.
I mean, if you're imagining that to be the motivation behind its release, which you imagine, I know, and Senator Leahy does, it's not very effective from a population point of view.
From a control point of view, at least in its present form, right?
Well, there are a variety of ways to control populations.
There's both depopulation, there's my control psyops type of operations, and that's clearly what we're looking at.
And we posted a great article on the website, the PetriHeater.org and or the HealingCelebrations.com.
If you go down the right side of the page, you'll see smallpox and anthrax.
As a pharmaceutical industry scam, what we're saying is that every time you really dig deep... Doctor, we're going to get to smallpox and all the rest of it, but with regard to West Nile itself, would you agree that it's not a particularly good population control?
You said you think it's PSYOPs.
In other words, it's released just to scare the crap out of everybody, basically.
Exactly.
And that's exactly what it's doing.
And on top of that, it's creating infection control industries infectious diseases industries new ways of handling
everything from mail to you know what we're doing for prevention, new vaccinations, new
exactly like what you're saying.
What you read was a great press release for the company who's preparing that blood screening
test for West Nile and those companies are very few and when you dig deep they all come
to the same largely British controlled pharmaceutical industrialists and it is one time after another
if you saw it just once or twice.
You know, you could say, oh, it's just a coincidence.
But every single time you start to dig in this disgusting pit of iniquity, you begin to find the same heavy-duty pharmaceutical industrials that are in bed with the highest-level public officials of this great land.
All right, let's go to anthrax for a second, and then we'll talk smallpox.
Anthrax, we were attacked in this country by somebody or somebodies with this extremely pure I've heard weapons-grade used frequently when referring to it, weapons-grade anthrax.
Now, we still don't really exactly know who did it.
There are some people under suspicion.
Do you believe it will turn out to be an individual within the United States that released this?
Do you believe there will be foreign connections?
What do you believe, ultimately, we will find?
We published a substantial 25 page with 65 reference report.
It's on the tetrader.org website.
It's cited there as anthrax mailings, industrial sabotage, and if you go and click on it, I have limited the suspects, the individual as well as organizational suspects, down to about a handful.
I do not believe that it was an individual.
There's no question in my mind that this was a conspiracy.
And who is at the heart and soul of it is a top American contractor for not only biological weapons, but virtually every aspect of defense and energy.
Well, it seems rather coincidental to the American public that the 9-11 event, horrendous event, occurred.
And then immediately the anthrax hit.
Big coincidence or no coincidence at all?
No coincidence at all.
In fact, the headline on the article that we posted on healingcelebrations.com explains that this is a whole agenda that's been involving for years before September 11th.
And that ultimately the same old pharmaceutical industrialists who are linked to the military medical petrochemical industrialists And again, there's only a few, a handful, and we cite the names, we cite all the individual identities on the website, and also there are the ones that are exposed.
Okay, but this would seem to be saying there was complicity between Al-Qaeda and between those who released the anthrax.
Well, for example, did you know that the Al-Qaeda had in their caves in Afghanistan the plans for Bioport, which is the sole anthrax vaccine manufacturer in the United States, but controlled virtually from the British oligarchy?
No, I didn't know that.
Yup, and that Bioport, when you begin to look at Bioport and the chief officials there, Your thesis becomes more clear and profound.
You're looking at a very, very wealthy Saudi who's in charge, who was investigated by the United States Congress because of illegitimacies in the production and utilization of the small, of the anthrax vaccine.
And this fellow has apparently links to the wealthiest families in Saudi Arabia who owns this company.
Again, the company is at the top.
It's virtually a subsidiary or corporate shell for Porton Down, which is the British principal biological weapons testing facility for the British government.
And so, when we suddenly realized that this individual, and there are investigators that have advanced fairly good evidence that there's links between this group and what is called the Carlisle Group, Which is the 11th top defense contractor in the United States, of which the past president, H.W.
Bush, as well as the Secretary of State, James Baker III, are major players.
It's directed by Frank Carlucci III, previous CIA director, and that apparently, and in fact for certain, the Bin Laden family had a Several million dollar investment, according to Associated Press, in this organization, up until a week after 9-11, when there was so much heat coming down, so much of the investigation was centering on where the money ties are to organized terrorism, that the Bush family was being implicated in its parent financial links to the same companies that the Bin Laden family was invested in.
Now, if you begin to realize that the uh... bio port is one perfect example
of this type of global uh... menace
this organization not only was investigated and found to be deficient
in numerous ways they couldn't even get the fda licensure on d
anthrax vaccine because it was so toxic and poorly labeled mismanaged anyway the bottom line here
is you don't think of some uh...
crazy individual even crazy single scientists who did this but part of an overall plan
that wound right into nine eleven and went up to the highest levels of our
very own government You know, I was pleased on December the 11th, I got in touch with William Broad for the New York Times.
He's the anthrax mailings investigator for the New York Times.
He said, Len, it seems Old Road seemed to lead the Battelle.
Two days later, in his article that followed my pleading with him, he came out with the truth.
And that truth is this.
That that particular strain of hyper-weaponized, silica-cut, electromagnetized, hyper-concentrated anthrax was produced under the Central Intelligence Agency's Project Clear Vision.
Quote, Clear Vision.
And that Dugway Proving Grounds was administered by Battelle, supplied by Battelle, and that's precisely the only two places in the world that that extraordinarily unique type of anthrax was found.
Even assuming everything you said to be fact, Doctor, you still haven't made the case, or are able to prove the case, that this was intentionally uh... by those who did the research uh... uh... set loose as part of a larger conspiracy that uh... has yet to be locked down certainly or would be put people in jail right you know what you know it's it's
It's difficult in a simple program like you have to lay it all out, but I can tell you, if you... It's not that hard to lay out that answer.
In other words, there would be people on their way to jail right now if it was a proven conspiracy and we had the names of those involved.
Well, let me first of all say that I alerted the FBI one week before the first anthrax bailing was announced.
I personally walked into my local FBI in Northern Idaho and I said, you have a major anthrax scam unfolding, you better...
For the sake of the American people, get on top of it.
And what did you walk in there?
They're going to say, okay, what do you know?
They're going to say, what is this based on, doctor?
Well, my pleading with them and urging, and finally it took them six months before they came, was based on all the documentation.
When you lay out all of the roots of this particular type of white-collar bioterrorism, and you see the global industrialists that have been consistently uh... responsible for genocide for example there are three
major pharmaceutical drug and vaccine companies that have already
in court lost their defenses in regard to plaintiff's cases brought
against them for aids virus contaminated blood products are able to do the
same company that are back on the smallpox and anthrax let's say with anthrax
for a second uh... obviously if you walk into an fbi office and you say
you got a big anthrax problem a week later you've got a big anthrax
problem i mean that they're going to be even though it was six
months ago i came back to you
and uh... you must lay it out for when you went in You can't just go in and say, we've got a big anthrax problem.
I did, and where it stops is the FBI's hands are tied.
They cannot investigate thoroughly because the Central Intelligence Agency is implicated, as well as the investors in the major corporations that HHS Secretary Tommy Thompson is purchasing the smallpox and anthrax vaccines from.
The Bush administration officials are heavily implicated so the FBI cannot investigate.
Okay, what would be the motivation of the Bush administration?
To essentially mail anthrax to itself.
I mean, that's simplifying, but that's essentially what you're saying happened, right?
First of all, look who it was that it was sent to, and that tells you a lot about motive.
was sent to number one the mainstream press and number two to two democratic senators
Leahy and Daschle and that the fact is that those individuals have been the worst or the
least supporters of the Bush administration.
They've been the greatest problems for the Bush administration, particularly Senator
Leahy who came out with a concern about West Nile being bioterrorism.
He had blocked nine appointees that President Bush had put forth.
Having said that though, how can you narrow it down to the administration itself versus somebody perhaps in sick sympathy with the administration of conservative values or even somebody in the Christian right I think it was just simply like the mailing to the media.
It was a message.
It was a message that was being sent out for two reasons.
One was to alert the public to the fright to get the public behind the legislation and enactment of additionally Uh, coercive legislation, such as the Model State Emergency Health Powers Act, where they take virtually entire constitutional rights away from individuals.
And like you've seen in recent days, with this proposition for smallpox vaccination, the ability to incarcerate people, quarantine them, force vaccinate them, force drug them.
Now in this particular case, that Bush administration policy does not allow for forced.
But yet it's clearly an experimental program.
The state, Model State Emergency Powers Act, allows for state's governors to arrest the entire state's constitution and literally force people, and with no legal recourse whatsoever, into quarantine facilities, virtual concentration camps in urban areas with tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of people exposed to a biological And so now what we're seeing is, number one, the whole
thing was to get the public, you know, in my humble opinion, the whole thing was
centered on, focused on the media to get the public behind the allowance, allowing for this
type of, I can only say, totalitarian and fascist type of legislation.
And then when you send it to Congress and legislators on Capitol Hill, that's a message to them that says, you will pass this type of legislation.
In other words, you can't propose draconian laws without draconian problems.
Right.
And it is standard Machiavellian theory and practice.
You create the problems, and then you come along right away with the solutions.
And the motivation for all of this?
Well, besides... In other words, you create a problem, then you pass draconian laws.
Okay, I've got all that, but I mean, why?
Well, you're making vast fortunes off of humanity's suffering.
That's what I'm saying.
In the report from Iron Mountain, this is called non-lethal warfare.
It is the subject matter, the focus of the book, Death in the Air.
Globalism, terrorism, and toxic warfare.
Now, think about the title.
It came out not after 9-11.
It came out three months before September 11th.
And it laid it out.
Who are the people that support global terrorism?
Osama Bin Laden, excuse me.
Where did he get his five billion dollars over a ten year period from Central Intelligence?
Alright, hold on doctor.
We'll be right back.
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My guest is Dr. Len Hurwitz.
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We will proceed in a moment.
Once again, here is Dr. Leonard Horowitz.
Dr. Horowitz, I'm able, because I have a computer right next to me, to monitor literally hundreds or even thousands of comments hurled at me during the program, or questions about a guest that we have on now.
I'm going to tell you right now that it's running about half and half.
About half the people think that you're an American hero, exposing conspiracies that these people obviously also believe in.
The other half of the people I think you are a bush-bashing, bush-hating, conspiracy-believing, anti-American.
You know, I'll just serve it up to you straight.
That's the way it's coming across.
You're either one or the other.
And the audience would appear, at this point, to be about split down the middle as they listen to you.
Well, you know, the proof is in the documentation.
You know, I neglected to give out the number to get the book Death in the Air for people who are not on the web, so let me just first do that first.
Sure.
The toll-free number is 888-508-4787, especially for the people who disbelieve.
The documentation says it all.
It's in Death in the Air.
Death in the Air.
888-508-4787.
4787, and if you're driving out there, don't get into an accident.
There's an easy way to remember it.
It's simply 888-50-virus.
V-I-R-U-S.
50-virus.
When did you write this?
The book, about almost three years ago.
It came out three months before September 11th, so it's not a Johnny-come-lately project.
And, you know, honestly, for the 50% of the population that can't believe this, you know, the reason why they can't is because...
I might be one of them.
I mean, let me lay it out for you, Doctor, and then you can work around me the way you want to try to work around me.
Here it is.
Look, I'm an American.
You're an American.
We fought wars.
We've done a lot of things in America.
But, you know, I still believe in America.
And while I'm not a big Bush fan, I don't think President Bush is a person who would intentionally poison his own people.
Or, for that matter, most others in the government.
There's always bad people out there, but as a policy, as a conspiracy, as an intent from the administration to poison its own people, to create scares that will create draconian law that will give them more power, I have a hard time believing that, Doctor.
All right, well, first of all, I'll explain why it is that you have a hard time believing that.
Sure.
Because you were raised by loving human beings who instilled in you ethics and morals and values.
Yes.
And you cannot conceive that there would be people that would not operate on the same level of love and integrity.
No, that's not true.
Doctor, I can imagine those people.
That's why we have police.
That's why we have the FBI and so on and so on.
But I'll throw them in the White House.
But, yeah, that's the part that... Okay, now let me give you some additional fuel for consideration.
This comes from John Loftus.
It is part of the release that we have on the healingcelebrations.com website on the smallpox and anthrax story where it predates.
This whole agenda predated 9-11 by years.
That's the smallpox, anthrax vaccines, All, and West Nile, as we detail in the book, Death in the Air.
All is an agenda that's been evolving for years.
Now, this is from John Loftus.
He's an attorney.
He's a former U.S.
Department of Justice Nazi war crimes prosecutor for the United States government.
He's also the president of the Florida Holocaust Museum.
Here is his quote regarding the Bush family.
7, 5, 7, 2, 7, 1, 2, 9, 5, Germany, and the rest of the Rockies call toll free 1-800-618-8255.
Not to mention specific names.
Now, you and I... Oh, okay.
You and I talked about this before the show, and there are ways to say things without saying them, and I don't want you to mention specific corporation names, that sort of thing.
Well, I don't believe these banks are still today.
This is back in World War II days.
Yeah.
But anyway, I'll just continue, and I'll leave out the names, Art.
Yeah.
The Bushes have to know Have to known how the secret money circuit worked because they were on the board of directors in both directions.
The one bank out, the other bank in.
Moreover, the size of their compensation was commensurate with their risk of Nazi money launderers.
The bottom line is harsh, and this speaks to your question, Art.
The bottom line is harsh, Loftus writes.
It's bad enough that the Bush family helped raise the money for Fritz Tysons, arguably Germany's wealthiest industrialist, to give Hitler his start in the 1920s, but giving aid and comfort to the enemy in a time of war is treason.
End quote.
Now, regarding treason against this great nation, The fact of the matter is that the Rockefellers had been found guilty of the same thing back in World War II.
At the end of World War II, as they were engaged in bringing the Nazis out of Germany along with the Nazi gold, a federal court judge had stated that they were treasonous for having fueled Hitler's war machine And withholding fuel and oil from the Brits, our allies.
All of this is all fine and well, but it doesn't yet say.
It says, well, you know, Bush, you said, must have known.
That's what you said.
He must have known.
Well, a lot of people didn't know about Enron.
I mean, that was apparently a pretty well closely guarded secret until Kaboom.
And then, obviously, a lot of people didn't know that that was going on.
I mean, you didn't just document that George Bush knew.
You said he must have known.
That's a lawful statement, and there's no question that these people are not stupid.
They don't sit around playing tiddlywinks.
They study, they know, they've got investigators out there with the millions of dollars that they can pay to have sophisticated investigations done, particularly when it comes to economics.
Well, I mean, but what you're saying is that you believe That pharmaceutical companies in concert with, I don't know, British hierarchy and American hierarchy, as in the Bush administration, have spread these diseases intentionally in order to
Yes, absolutely.
And it's worse than that.
New York Times headlines dealing with the birth control pill RU-486.
Absolutely. And it's worse than that. Because look who was in the newspaper today, New York Times, headlines dealing
with the birth control pill RU486.
Do you know who owns that? First of all, what do you do when you 86-something, Art?
Yeah.
You trash it.
You get rid of it, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Are you 486?
486, yeah, I got it.
Are you four trashing fetuses?
Well, do you know who owns that?
That is owned by the Population Council, that birth control pill.
Who owns that?
It was Lawrence Rockefeller that put together the Population Council that gave birth to virtually everyone that exists today for the United Nations.
Let's talk about that for a second.
In other words, behind all of this, Is also, I'm sure you believe, some motivation to reduce the population.
The population, right?
That's the second.
The first is economic money-making.
The second is it goes with a political agenda to reduce, currently, the half the United States population.
You have to go according to these people.
That's documented.
It's not a map making that up.
You can read that in the Council of Foreign Relations Foreign Affairs Journal.
That's the most esteemed political periodical in the world.
All right.
Of the various methods that are perhaps available to reduce population, certainly birth control is preferred over fatal diseases raging around the world, killing half the world's population.
Quite honestly, frankly, I don't buy that.
Although, that's what they say.
Well, do you believe that the world's population At some point it's going to have to be controlled.
I mean, you know what the projections are, right?
I'm not going to argue that.
You're not?
You do agree with that?
You do agree?
Well, do I agree?
It depends on the research.
I can't agree with that.
I can't, because A, I have not done enough study in it, and I can't say something that I'm not well studied on.
In other words, the population estimates, the estimates of the percentage of increase in population of the world, when we already clearly have dire environmental problems and so forth.
Yes, but the problem is who's creating those problems?
They blame the drivers for being lazy.
Meanwhile, they suppressed all the technologies.
You know that.
They suppressed the Tesla technology, that we could have had free automobiles, you know, driving on virtually water.
They've suppressed all the magnificent technologies and instead what they're utilizing is non-renewable energy resources.
I don't know that.
I don't know that we could have had automobiles running on water.
Yeah, I have personally witnessed and interviewed a number of investigators worldwide, particularly the Tesla technology.
That alternating current, everything that we have today in modern world, from the AC current to... Marconi did not discover the radio.
That was Tesla's technology that Marconi took.
Clearly, Tesla's stuff was all taken and is a big secret.
It is all classified.
You know, I'd buy into that.
Yeah, so now let me just go back to the issue at hand that this deals with a globalist agenda to reduce populations by, let's say, half.
Because that's what it states in the Council of Foreign Relations published Foreign Affairs Journal.
Again, David Rockefeller controls that.
By the way, the fellow we talked about earlier, Dr. Joshua Lederberg, who was Past president of Rockefeller University and curator over the American Type Culture Collection that sent Saddam Hussein 19 shipments of anthrax.
This man is currently the Council on Foreign Relations Biological Weapons and Bioterrorism Study Group Director.
So that's his place currently in this whole emergency management and educational Issue and dynamics in regard to a response to bioterrorism.
He's at the forefront of it.
Now, let me refer you, when I went to Capitol Hill, and I testified, not before the Judiciary Committee, but briefly before the Government Reform Committee, that was investigating the links between autistic spectrum disorders and the mercury in the vaccines.
I happened upon, in the Capitol building, absolutely stunning information.
And I want to share it with you.
It's on an article that's posted on HealingCelebrations.com website.
It's titled, Disease Deities on Capitol Hill Address Autism.
And what you will see is a picture that I took from the dome of the rotunda of the Capitol building.
This was the day before I was to go and discuss in the hearings the mercury issue.
I go in the Capitol building, which is the premier legislative action site in the United States, and on the dome of the rotunda there's a picture that I have posted on this article on the web right now.
And it shows an angelic creature, the god Mercury, holding the pharmaceutical insignia in his right hand.
And in his left hand, a bag of money that he's placing down on legislators' desks as they're penning legislation.
So, that's an interesting little tidbit from Capitol Hill, and then what you also have is a photograph of the Roosevelt Memorial, and this says it all.
Inscribed in the Roosevelt Memorial in Washington, it says this.
It says, they who seek to establish systems of government based on the regimentation of all human beings by a handful of individual rulers.
Call this a new order, or a new world order.
It is not new, and it is not orderly.
That's what is unscribed on the Roosevelt Memorial.
Now, if you look at the United States dollar bill, it says the same thing in another way.
In Latin, novel order seclorum.
New order out of chaos.
Or in the case that we've been discussing, biological threats of bioterrorism.
It is managed chaos.
When President Bush, one prior, mentioned new world order, there was this joke.
Oh, it just drove everybody crazy, and then all of a sudden the President never muttered that I'm aware of those words again.
Was he simply out a little early from your point of view, or what?
No, he simply leaked what he knew, just like Roosevelt knew was going on.
I know, but it caused so much trouble.
It fired up people just like you.
God has blessed this great nation.
It's time we the people bless God by utilizing the correct We've got people on Capitol Hill that are completely untrustworthy, that turn a blind eye to the truth, that are like the monkeys, see no evil, speak no evil, and hear no evil.
We, the people, have got to assert ourselves.
Unfortunately, what's going on is that we're Prozac'd out.
I've often said, give people television, entertainment, and Prozac, and you've got control over everybody.
And ultimately, we the people have not come forward.
We're so busy and they've got us so busy and so distracted.
Here's a good example.
All right, wait a minute.
You can give us an example.
You know, there I have your definition of what the New World Order, what you believe it means.
If I were to ask President Bush, the present President Bush or the prior one, What do you think their response would be?
Here's the distraction.
I certainly don't believe that their response would be that the New World Order is something that world wrestling champions would use as their slogan to promote the scam of wrestling.
That's what they've done.
They've taken that term that the President used, which really is indicative of the multinational corporate virtual fascist evolution into globalistic economy, and not caring about people, putting money first and politics first before people's health and safety.
And that ultimately that's what this evolution into a new world order is.
The biggest issue is that they have a full intention to use the United States population along with half of the global population by half.
You're telling me again what you think it is.
I asked you, what do you think they would say it is?
You know, I can't speak for the President.
Although you think the President might say that it would be a world where there are not wars, where there is not terror around every corner where uh... in other words he
would make a very very different yes i think even i can
so it's a book that the media art i have
relayed the report from iron mountain have you read the report from our mountains
Long time ago.
Okay.
Do you recall in there that it said, yes, we want to have this evolution into globalistic peace, and that what we need to do that, because all economies have been based on militarization and wars for millennia.
And that's ours too.
Okay.
So what they said we needed to do was transition into this peaceful method by having substitutes, economic substitutes for military.
And what they proposed was a form of slavery in which humanity would not know they were enslaved, i.e.
the pharmaceuticals and the frights, into demanded and required injections and druggings.
And that's part of this evolution into such a free, loving New World Order.
Alright, alright.
Hold it right there.
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Is it a loving New World Order?
Or is it enslavement directly ahead?
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The mass is having to Hulk down.
Ha ha ha.
You know, one of my fast blasters, who fancies himself at the top of the conspiratorial ladder, just found himself a mentor.
And so, you know, he says, geez, I thought I was conspiratorial.
Dr. Horowitz really puts me to shame.
Doctor, you know, if all this is true, Or even a good portion of it.
Then why have not people, good people, good Americans, in all these institutions and government-funded programs and the government itself, why have they not come forward?
Oh, well, they have.
For example, I'll give you a great example.
There's a woman by the name of Elizabeth Baumgartner who is an insider.
She's an attorney as well as a PhD in pharmacology.
She runs the Genomic Institute in Cleveland.
She was incarcerated two days ago.
The FBI came and arrested her, put her in jail.
She is an American now, political prisoner.
For what?
They put her in jail for what?
They put her in jail for citing a fellow by the name of Van Harp, who is the FBI investigator for the anthrax issue in the Battelle region.
Battelle Memorial Institute, as I mentioned earlier, was the principal source of that hyper-weaponized anthrax that was mailed.
She, as an inside player, knew a lot, and she was spouting a lot.
She was going on national radio.
They came and they got her.
She's in jail right now.
I'm working with Amnesty International, Art, and one of the things that we're currently funding... You didn't answer the question.
They came and got her on what specific charge?
They make people come forward and they're incarcerated.
But on what specific charge, Doctor?
You're going to be a mind-blower.
Have you seen over the last few years Psychological literature that indicates that people who discuss broad conspiracy theories are suffering from neurosis if not psychosis.
They arrested her on charges that she's psychologically unfit and she is then causing problems for people.
And so that's what they've got, that's what they're holding her on.
Well, are you saying they're holding her on some psychological charge?
That's exactly what I'm saying.
And the only way they can usually do that is to suggest that you are a danger to yourself or others, right?
That's right.
And according to her attorney, that's what they're holding her on.
Her attorney called me within hours of her arrest.
And so this is an issue that I think we're going to see more of.
People, good people, are coming forward.
You know, there's a lot of people who are disappearing, too.
You look at, for example, Don Wiley.
He's the Harvard and Hughes Institute investigator, world-class virologist, working on genetics of biological
weapons.
His sister called me and said, I believe that the police are telling me what I need to know.
Dr. Horowitz, can you help?
Actually, there have been quite a few people working on biological things that have disappeared in a somewhat suspicious manner, yes?
Yes.
About now, I think the total is up to about two dozen.
He was one of the first.
Well, then there's this, Dr. Horowitz.
Think about it a little bit.
I mean, as outspoken as you are, I can hardly even keep you reined in here at all.
If this were true, you'd be a dead man.
And if you already haven't been killed, then you're on a list.
Well, there's no question that I am on a list.
Because I make myself that way, and I'm very, very high profile.
I'm in their face consistently.
And, you know, if it wasn't for God and the graces of God and the prayers of tens, if not hundreds of thousands of people out there that support the work that we do for humanity and the American people and this great nation, I probably would have been X'd out a long time ago.
Well, that's my point.
I mean, why is it, if what you're saying is all true, that we haven't yet found you in a burned-out hulk of a car off a mountainside somewhere, you know?
You know, because, again, we all die at our right time.
It's not my time yet, and I've still got some work to do, apparently.
You know, again, for God and these great people who support the truth.
So that's your only answer.
There's not time yet.
In other words, as outspoken as you are, you'd be right up there at the head of the list.
You know, I don't know about you, Art, but I'm a firm believer in God.
You're talking to a person who should have died three times in my life, that I was spared miraculously.
There's no rational explanation for me to be here right now.
Now, I'm not saying that these people have attempted to kill me.
Thank God, praise God, I don't believe I have had any serious threats.
Colleagues of mine have.
Colleagues of mine have been shot, and some killed.
Thank God, I haven't.
And so, all I can tell you is... Well, there are only two possible things to conclude from this.
Either what you're saying is not true, and so there's no one out there to kill you, or... Or I'm a lone voice crying in a wilderness when you go up, even your show, Art.
You know, you've got a large following, but you know, you're no match, nor am I, nor is anybody, for mainstream media, for daytime television, daytime radio programs.
You know, I've served... Oh, I pride myself in not trying to be a match for them, Doctor.
Well, that's great.
And that's where I would go also.
And I have gone.
But, you know, I was on Fox, for example.
I testified.
I was asked as an expert to be on Fox to articulate issues with regard to West Nile.
Over the last two months, I've been on three times.
And they will not allow me to talk about issues they told me in advance.
Dr. Horowitz, we know your position regarding the toxic pesticide springs.
Please don't say anything about the pesticide springs.
Okay, we'll get to pesticide springs in a moment.
But the FBI actually did come to you, did it not?
Suspecting you in the anthrax mailings.
Yeah, they wanted to make me a suspect.
They came to interrogate me.
Why?
Because they... Why?
Because they're loony.
They're absolutely despicable.
The fact is that I have been, again, for the sake and safety of the American people, and family and friends, I went to the FBI one week before anybody knew anything that anything was going to happen.
In what office?
In the Coeur d'Alene office from Northern Idaho.
Coeur d'Alene, Idaho, alright.
And you said to them, uh... And I first, the day before, I walked in.
You know how I... Let me tell you how I got it.
How I got this unfolding scam.
Okay.
Peter Jennings on, I believe it was the 27th of September, Right.
came on with his ABC broadcast, completed it this way.
He said, tomorrow we're going to discuss anthrax.
We're going through your fears one by one, day by day.
Good night.
and the next day with a a third of the a bc news segment was a sales scam for
And the next day, a third of the ABC News segment was a sales scam for Cipro.
separate infomercial showing panic new yorkers rushing to the pharmaceutical
It was an infomercial showing panicked New Yorkers rushing to their pharmaceutical drugstores
uh... drugstores purchase for seven hundred dollars
for a sixty day supply of separate which if you studied separate which i had
even in the position best reference to the american medical association said
that this was not the drug of choice for anything relating to it
pneumonia which anthrax report resolves into a goes into the cause of death
anthrax so it had no also been not never tested in anyone under
eighteen years of age so here they were
car blush issuing prescriptions for separate By December, 32,000 New Yorkers and Washington people were taking Cipro.
Well, the government itself was issuing Cipro to those exposed, right?
So if you followed the whole story from three years earlier, as I had, you saw that unprecedented
somehow the pharmaceutical powers and that one company, whose name I will not mention,
who owns Cipro, somehow wheeled and dealed and got the Food and Drug Administration to
do something they've never done.
That is unprecedented selection of one single, hyper-expensive antibiotic.
When you had doxycycline, tetracycline, virtually anything killed Cipro, penicillin... Actually, I did hear that.
I heard that these other cyclins also did the job, and you know, you kind of heard them say, well, maybe not as powerful, not quite as good, but they do the job.
Yeah, and they were not nearly as risky, and they were far more proven.
Less toxic, more proven, far less expensive.
You could buy it, and there were companies that came forward that offered free antibiotics that the government turned down.
Now, again, HHS Secretary Tommy Thompson purchased it all.
And then, after that, within another couple months, a half a billion dollars worth of useless, unproven, highly toxic, risky vaccines containing everything from formaldehyde and formalin that you preserve corpses with, to mercury, aluminum, neurologically impairing chemicals, elements, and then that's not the ingredients.
You know what's in all vaccines?
All vaccines are made of bacterial and viral components.
Right.
As well as foreign RNA and DNA from God knows where.
Bacteria, viruses, fungus, yeast, chicken embryos, bovine fetal serum, monkey kidney tissues.
This is modern medicine.
This is a witch's brew.
It is a scam art.
The whole thing is a royal scam.
Let me ask you about a smaller part of what might be a royal scam or not.
I never did previously in my life until the last few years began to get a flu shot.
Now, this last year, I had a flu shot, and then came down with a very mysterious, horrible fever that lasted a long time, a really high fever.
It wasn't the flu.
I never sneezed, coughed, snotted, did anything normally like you would have with the flu, but I came down with this mysterious, horrid temperature that kept spiking up and down, up and down, up and down, and had me shivering, you know, curled up in a ball.
A really bad temperature, and I'm not sure I related to the flu virus shot that I took, I'm not sure I don't either.
I will definitively link it for you.
Oh.
First of all, you know, I hate to say I told you so, but I think I told you so the last time you interviewed me.
Remember I told you that we produced a tape called Horowitz on Vaccines that lays out what specifically the fact is that my mother, among tens of thousands of others who got the flu vaccine, ended up dying of Gillian Borre, a very common vaccine Uh, side effect.
Now, here's what happens.
When you get injected with flu, influenza virus particles, combined with other proteins from God knows where, could be chicken embryos, could be little yeast cell cultures that they grow it in, and then combine that with mercury and aluminum and formaldehyde and formalin and monosodium glutamate, MSG, as preservatives and stabilizers for the vaccines.
All vaccines contain those.
Then what happens is that those little particles enter your bloodstream, and they combine, they attach themselves to your own host cell proteins.
That forms what's called an antigenic complex.
The scientists call it an antigenic complex.
Now your little white blood cell bodyguards going around trying to find out what is you and what is not you, and try to gobble up and destroy foreign invaders, now get fooled.
Because they see the complex and they start to say, oh boy, look at this.
Our own body part looks like it's a foreign agent.
Yeah, they went wild.
It's called autoimmune.
Yeah, that's what my white cat went berserk.
That's right.
Now, here's the short list of the current plagues linked to vaccine ingredients, vaccine contaminants, or just plain vaccine injuries.
Autoimmune diseases.
All of these follow the same exact pattern as I just described.
That's the pathological pathway to chronic fatigue, immune dysfunction, fibromyalgia, lupus, MS.
a lot to look at the fees chronic crippling rheumatoid arthritis adult and
juvenile type one diabetes that's autoimmune diabetes clones disease
gillian beret as i mentioned stephen johnson syndrome bells palsy and many others
this is what is going on now i guess who makes the money off of all these
chronically ill people the same people who produce a vaccine
it's a scam i i i just you know i mean you can
certainly make the connection between those who manufacture vaccines
and the fact that there's a problem but i don't know if you if you yet
absolutely connected the fact that people who make the vaccines made the
Look, as I sat on the congressional panel, Just below the congressman, I was a U.S.
autism ambassador.
I sat with five other ambassadors and one other individual selected by Christopher Shays.
And we cross-examined CDC and NIH and FDA officials who were lying through their teeth.
I hold in my possession a classified Centers for Disease Control Commission report that ...states that the mercury alone in the childhood vaccinations would accumulate far beyond the Environmental Protection Agency's toxicity limit, and cause neurological and behavioral disorders in our nation's youth.
And they classified that, they never released it, and the congressman did not want to talk about it.
When I wanted to talk about it... Ease to the Rockies, call toll-free 1-800-825-5033.
He said, Dr. Horwich, this is no time and place to have this discussion.
All right.
Again, Doctor, that is an allegation that's unsubstantiated beyond... No, it's on record.
Beyond... No, no.
With reference to the allegation you made, I eliminated that.
I want you to know, because you said, must be.
You didn't document was, and so we've got to be very careful here.
What is that?
What is that, Art?
I'll get you proof.
You know what?
that uh... uh... and so that when you say that must be that's not that's not
proof that's not a lot of with saying i think you're correct you know what
getting a group of young get me proof who is the major
political out lobbyists
What industry?
It's not insurance.
It's not even banking.
It's not even petroleum.
It is the pharmaceutical industrialists.
Okay, fine.
They are, and they're big.
I don't deny... Every high-level public official... I would never deny they're an extremely strong, effective lobby.
No question.
No, I concede that to you.
But that still doesn't mean that they create the diseases And spread the diseases that they then go out and make money on.
I mean, I'm not denying it could be possible, but it doesn't prove it.
Okay, as you, as you, again, there's a tremendous amount of documentation, U.S.
government documents laid out.
The reason why the United States General Accounting Office, as well as Amnesty International, is about to launch an investigation into the book Emerging Viruses, AIDS, and Ebola, and the documentation therein, I have reprinted As you well know, in black and white, the United States government contracts under which numerous AIDS-like and Ebola-like viruses were produced by the United States Army's six top biological weapons contracting lab called Litzen Bionetics.
Do we really want to cop to the fact that it is our nation that has likely caused the AIDS genocide?
If it's true, we do, yes.
Well, you know what?
If it's really true, then why would the GAO have just committed scientific fraud?
That's another on the HealingCelebrations.com website.
The last article that's on the right-hand side is, USGAO commits scientific fraud in
the AIDS inquiry.
We're about to launch a lawsuit against the United States General Accounting Office for
taking my testimony and totally distorting it, editing it, and I've got it recorded.
They then lied about the scientific researchers from Aaron Diamond Institute that cited, as
I have, that the vaccines are the most likely cause of the spread of HIV-AIDS.
I don't doubt that the vaccines have their risk, but what they would argue is, yes, there
are risks attendant to the distribution of vaccines, but the pluses outweigh the risks.
For example, with polio... You don't believe me, and 50%, as you mentioned, of the people emailing you now do not believe me.
I have said it to you, and I'll say it to you again, I'll go to my grave saying it.
If you do not believe me, then go ahead and get vaccinated and be prepared to suffer the great, wonderful outcomes that the government promises you that you're going to get from getting vaccinated.
The smallpox vaccine, by the way...
Yesterday's Bush administration's proposal for smallpox?
Yes.
You didn't read to match that the fact is that it's totally experimental.
CalPUS is what they're injecting you with.
That's precisely what it is.
Right.
And it's totally experimental.
They're going to have you sign an informed consent statement before you get injected because they don't want to have any of the liability associated with all the diseases that come out of smallpox.
You've got to sign the same statement when you take a flu virus shot.
Why?
It's so good for you.
Well, because it's a litigant-like society we have right now, and everybody sues everybody for everything, right?
All right, let me ask you something.
It's basically true, though, right?
Do you think that the vaccine issue and agenda is based on science?
Would you say that?
I'll come back and say something in a moment about that.
I think it's based on science.
I don't know, but I certainly agree with that.
I'm ready too.
I've got to tell you I've been racking my brain hoping to find a way.
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Well, I know most of you, I'm sure, heard what Senator Patrick Leahy, a Democrat from Vermont, had to say about West Nile virus.
And frankly, our guest tonight, Dr. Horowitz, is the principal pioneer and investigator of the whole theory that Senator Leahy was And again, Dr. Horowitz testified as well, so that's the reason he's here tonight.
I mean, you should see the responses I'm getting.
I mean, it's running right down the line, right next to each other.
Les in Portland, Oregon said, this is destined to be one of your best programs.
And Lee in Gilbert, Arizona, right above him, says, sorry, but this fellow is an irritating fruit.
Uh, it's, uh, nobody's taking it halfway.
And I understand that with the material being presented.
We'll get back to Dr. Horowitz in a moment.
So there you are, uh, right next to each other, are destined to be one of the best shows you've ever had, one of your best programs, or, sorry, this fellow's an irritating fruit.
Uh, nobody's greeting you halfway on this, doctor, as I'm sure you'll find out when we open phone lines.
Uh, uh, you'll find probably half and half, I mean, people who are angry at what you're suggesting, because I guess like me, they don't want to believe their own government would do this to them.
That we're the good guys of the world, not the bad guys of the world.
And then it's split on the other side, people who are certainly now, I guess, beginning to get real cynical about everything, and they're willing to believe just about anything, including that their own government's going to kill them.
Well, what can I tell you?
I mean, things are real.
You know, by the way, I mentioned the American Political Prisoners Fund that we're sponsoring, and my work with Amnesty International concerning AIDS.
Yes.
We've just produced a Vietnam War song update.
You remember Country Joe and the Fish?
Yep.
Well, Country Joe has given us his blessing, and we've just put on the web, on the website HealingCelebrations.com, the Iraqi war song, and it is great.
I know he actually mentions my show at the end of it, right?
Well, we have two versions.
We've got one that mentions the Art Bell Show.
And one that doesn't.
And you can also get the CD by calling the toll-free number 888-508-4787 and ask them for the Art Bell Special.
There's a whole special package that is going along for your show tonight.
We've got a 24-hour number?
Yes, it is.
And again, easy way to remember, 888-508-4787 is the same as 888-50-virus.
five oh eight forty seven eighty seven is the same as triple eight
fifty virus the i r u s and then all the profits from the sale of the cd go to the
two uh... efforts the american political prisoners fund and to the amnesty
international's upcoming investigation of h i d eight the man-made origin
of we've laid it out in the book
and i don't know if it will work I want to get smallpox a little bit, because I, even I, found when they announced that smallpox was going to be manufactured virus for, or vaccine for everybody,
I said to myself, what the hell do they know that we don't?
I mean, they just don't do something like this out of the blue.
They've got to know something.
Either they know that somebody's about to release this, or there's a high probability they're going to release it, or they wouldn't go to such drastic measures.
Or, I suppose you might believe, they know it's coming because they're going to do it, right?
You got it.
For Art, that is a critical question.
I wish everybody would start to think about that question.
Again, the article that we posted on the smallpox on HealingCelebrations.com talks about Robert Myers, who is the Chief Executive Scientist and Director of BioPort, the anthrax vaccine maker.
In 1997, they are already planning this whole thing.
He goes before the Congress to request from the Appropriations Committee funding for smallpox vaccine and anthrax vaccine.
Now, there are over two dozen biological weapons in the arsenals of the superpowers and even in the, quote, terrorist states.
Why are we only focusing on those two?
Because these are the industrialists that have created the market.
Or somebody else might say that there's intel that we've got that would indicate that there's some possibility they're going to release smallpox.
Have it, and we are going to release it.
Well, again, think about it.
They could release anything.
They could release botulism.
They could release polio.
They could release Ebola.
Ebola would be the principal weapon.
But you don't hear anything about that because there's no vaccine produced by these pharmaceutical industrials that have created this entire scam.
They've planned this for years.
Alright.
You know, I want to go back for a second.
I mean, the FBI coming to you as a suspect in the anthrax mailings, that's serious stuff.
Why did they come to you?
Just because you walked into that office and warned?
No.
Okay, then why?
Well, first of all, yes, indeed.
I walked into the offices, so basically, and I kept hounding them.
You know, I even went to the extent that I hired a computer whiz to send a little, what they call a spider, into the FBI's government offices, collecting the email addresses of FBI agents.
And I sent every single one of them, about 1,500 to 1,800 of them, a 25-page documented report citing the Patel Memorial Institute First time callers, area code 775-727-1222.
With all the documentation, you should see what I laid out.
Okay, doctor, you laid all this out.
The question again is, why did they come to you as a suspect?
What did you do?
Was that it?
They came to me as a suspect because they had to do something with me.
They couldn't, they don't want to follow what I'm telling them, which is the truth.
So they had to do something to simply appease me.
So they finally came to me and here's what I ultimately told them.
I was very kind.
I was very courteous.
I answered all their questions.
And then they wanted to come back and again, ask the questions that was totally off where I had suggested that they go.
And I finally said to them, listen, I'm done.
I said, you can arrest me.
You can kill me, shoot me right here, right now.
I want you to know that I serve two entities.
I serve God, and I serve the people of this great nation.
I said, I'm telling you where to go to solve this case.
You obviously don't want to go there, given your line of questioning.
And they were apologetic.
The two agents that came to me did nothing but apologize.
They said, Dr. Horowitz, we have just been given this assignment.
Don't take it personally.
I'm sure that's right.
But I mean... And it came from above.
Robert Mueller, or FBI Director Mueller, was on my list for sending him this information consistently, and I've been saying, we have posted on the... When you send in a spider the way you did, that's a kind of hacking.
No, it's our government.
I know, I know, but it's still a kind of hacking.
No, it's not.
Well, it is.
If it was a private organization or institution, yes.
It's illegal.
But if it's our government, we elect those names.
That is illegal.
Doctor, you've got to understand how it would piss them off.
Come on.
So what?
I'm not in the business of making people happy.
I'm in the business of telling the truth and trying to protect the public's health.
All right, but in actually coming to you as a suspect in the mailings, I mean, it had to be specific.
Doctor, where were you on such and such dates?
No, they didn't go there.
They didn't go there.
Here's where they went.
Here's where they held me as a potential suspect.
Because I have routinely gone out and spoken before audiences across this great nation, I have had people in my seminars who are less than trustworthy, some of whom have, like people in your audience, Art, gotten arrested.
And some of those people were held as suspects, particularly since the FBI wanted to pin the anthrax mailings on the fundamentalist Christian right-wing patriots.
I've had many of those people in my audiences.
And so there was one fellow who was arrested who said that, well, Dr. Horowitz provides a lot of information that you guys need to attend to.
And so then they came to me and said, did you speak in such and such?
Did you know this person in such and such?
And that's where they wanted to pin me.
Well, as a matter of curiosity, Doctor, usually FBI policy, at least since Hoover, has followed the general political dictates, beliefs of the administration in office at the time.
Now, why would the Bush administration wish to pin this on right-wing Christian Patriots.
I mean, that doesn't jive.
No, it does jive.
It's perfect.
How?
It's always been.
For millennia, it's been divide the sheeple to conquer the flock.
You separate Christian from Muslim, Jew from Gentile, even gay from straight.
That's how the populations have been divided.
Look at the even representative of the Masonic structures on Capitol Hill.
You're looking at the Capitol building, left-wing, right-wing, Democrat vs. Republican.
Globally, it's Communist vs. Capitalist vs. Socialist.
And if that's the way it's done, Art, that's how you get control over populations.
If we were all united, and we were all given the same information, we wouldn't be arguing.
We wouldn't be having politics.
But gee whiz, the Bush administration is to some degree dependent on right-wing, born-again Christian votes.
That's allegedly, yes.
The Bush administration basically alleges to be that way.
That's right.
And I don't buy it.
I don't buy it.
You don't, huh?
No, I don't.
Again, beware of those.
You know, in Christ's day, he said, beware of those who call themselves Jews who are not.
Today, it's more of like a Christian world.
I say, beware of those who call themselves Christians who are not.
Yeah, I believe that for a while myself.
All right.
I'm going to turn you over here to the audience if I can.
I mean, we've said so much, and I really would like to let some in the audience ask you questions.
I'll give you another opportunity as the program progresses to hit your website and your telephone number, but I'd like you to take some calls from the audience.
I'd love to.
All right, good.
And let's rock.
Wild Card Line, you're on the air with Dr. Horowitz.
Hello.
Hi, Doc.
formula here for you. If you take and combine this depopulation plan with Murphy's Law,
you end up with the fulfillment of the book of Revelation.
Oh, interesting.
You know what? Maybe it isn't God judging us so much as just allowing man to his imagination
and doing the job for him.
I agree. And you know, let me share with you also, in the book of Revelation, it talks
about those who created the end times plagues are the ones who deceive the wealthiest men
You've got to be a banker to do that, an international monetary fund bankster.
And you've got to also, it says in Revelation, they are the ones who stole the blood of the prophets and the people.
And look who stole everybody's blood.
You know, we've got a website, AmericanRedDoubleCross.com, that exposes the American Red Cross and the Rockefeller connections there, and how they are, have been polluting the blood supplies, knowingly, with everything from HIV-AIDS to the mad cow disease agent called prions.
And so, it's the same thing.
It's absolutely amazing, and incredibly.
Now, we've been talking all night about pharmaceuticals and drug company scams.
It says also in the Book of Revelation that those who did this, who stole the blood of the prophets and the people and deceived the wealthiest men of all the nations, they practiced, quote, sorcery and cast magic spells.
The root word of sorcery in Strong's Concordance is Pharmacopeia Pharmaceuticals.
These are the multinational corporate pharmaceutical industrials that are doing this to we, the people of the United States, and the good people all over the world.
All right, Doctor.
Somebody named Raker, whoever that is in New York City, says it almost seemed like he sent the anthrax to make his point.
Now, I would assume that as a suspect, whether it was your audience or whether it was just you, That if the FBI came to you, they probably had that on their mind, even if they didn't say it.
That somebody like yourself, preachy about all of this, might have done it to try and make their point.
Is that something that was between their words?
No, no, that's such a far out possibility.
That's ridiculous.
I mean, in my history, all you have to do is go to my website and look at my resume.
I've been out there.
I'm in the forefront of the public consistently, partly for safety.
Yes, doctor, but you've got to admit that what you're giving us this morning is in some senses, and for many people, pretty far out sounding.
Well, again, those people are simply at a disadvantage because they haven't looked at the documentation that we publish.
Okay, all right.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Dr. Horowitz.
Good morning.
Hello.
Yes, hello.
Good morning.
Yes, where are you?
Yes, this is Frank calling from Western Pennsylvania.
Okay, Frank.
And I have two points.
The first of which is that the Buffalo News on the 23rd of this month published an article in their foreign policy section Which details the specific cultures the U.S.
sent to Iraq in the mid-1980s.
And the article is called, U.S.
Sent Iraq Germs in Mid-80s.
The author is Douglas Turner, and he's the News Washington Bureau Chief for that newspaper.
And they detailed that we sent basically 72 shipments of clones of germs and specific chemical substances that did have military application.
The article is certainly, I think, would suffice as backup material for some of the claims made.
Okay, and that's what we know about.
Imagine what we don't know about yet that might have been said.
You know, right.
I think, Frank, your point is so beautifully taken.
Why is it it's only in the Buffalo News?
Why don't we see it on ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, and New York Times, Washington Post, and L.A.
Times?
This is incredible!
Here we have a President of the United States willing to go solo and take our country into war that may in fact create an entire war over the Middle East, and if not the entire world.
It may.
And we've supplied this man, and they don't want to talk about this?
Correct.
also there's another point i wanted to raise in that was regarding prescott
bushes uh... financing uh... of uh... rearming germany in
violation of the first five treaty yes with his partner rob money herman at brown
brothers uh... herman the bank in new york yes which was closed down in december
of nineteen forty two by roosevelt under trading with the enemy act yes
uh... one point that i think art you could make it you didn't know maybe
the bush is new was happening
in nineteen thirty eight the benign beret met with uh... prescott bush and bunny herman and explained
what it was going to This didn't stop them from conducting business with Hitler.
And the company they managed was the Silesian Steel Trust.
And the reason why Thyssen Formatio, the gentleman that was the German partner, After the war, he was arrested for war crimes and spent, I believe, six years in prison, where he wrote a book detailing the foreign involvement with the backing of Hitler.
And virtually every German that has studied history, through high school or the university, after Nuremberg, the U.S.
mandated, under our denazification of Germany policy, That the Germans study the foreign policy that led them into the morass with Hitler.
So in a sense, when Bush goes to Germany, many of the Germans look down upon the Bushes because they felt that they had a hand in forcing Hitler upon the German people.
And a point I wanted to raise is that, yes, it's important to have this discourse now, because the world has never been in a more precarious position.
World War III is quite possibly looming.
And the thing I'm very concerned about is the fact that Much of the hearings regarding the Iraq War have been closed to the public and the press.
And I'm also very concerned that many of our civil rights under the Constitution have been abrogated with the Patriot Act.
And one thing that does concern me is those who dissent with the government policy under the Patriot Act could be deemed Our civilian combatants, even if they are American citizens, dissenting with our freedom of speech, that is a guarantee under our Constitution that has been abrogated with this Patriot Act.
And I think that's rather frightening.
I'm not going to say anything else beyond that, but I'm glad you're back, and I hope you're feeling better, and keep it up.
Alright, thank you, and Doctor, hold on, we're at the bottom of the hour.
I suspect Doctor, he was very silent, agreed with the great majority of that.
My guest is Dr. Leonard G. Horowitz, kind of a controversial character.
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This is Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell on the Premier Radio Network.
Dr. Leonard Horowitz is my guest.
And once again, with what Senator Patrick Leahy has said, and with the...
The Good Doctor's testimony from the Senate Judiciary people.
You've got to really sit down and listen and that's what this program is all about.
Listening to different points of view and then sitting out there like a bunch of adults that I hope you are and making up your own mind.
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Alright, well we just had another one of those.
We lost all telephone lines.
Now, this is very interesting.
This occurred at about 45 Pacific Coast time.
Dr. Horowitz and everybody who was waiting to talk to him got dumped off the line.
My apologies for that.
This is something the phone company is apparently trying to deal with right now.
Has happened now on two programs separated by quite some number of days.
Very suspicious.
The phone company has replaced some equipment in the line that they consider suspicious.
But all of a sudden, just boom, everything goes away and that just occurred again.
Dr. Horowitz, thankfully we've got you back again.
Well, that's great, Art.
Let me just make this statement, Art.
It was the Government Reform Committee, before which I had the opportunity on April 18th to provide oral testimony.
Then why do they say judiciary here?
Well, because that's Senator Leahy's committee, and his concerns stem from many sources of intelligence.
Mine is simply one small one that is in the congressional record.
He is very likely aware of my work regarding the book, Death in the Air, because we've sent Good enough.
Just before we dive back into the phones, and I'm ready to do that, I want to ask you this on behalf of my listeners.
as a as a political effort to wake people up to the documentation such as
you have such as frank from western pennsylvania but mentioned
enough of just before we got back into the homes and i'm ready to do that i i
want to ask you this uh... and behalf of my listeners what are your politics
uh... i don't have any I'm not a... I refuse to... I used to be a liberal Democrat, and then I became more of a right-wing conservative, and then I realized that that was a scam, too.
Basically the same one I said.
If I was to declare myself, I would say I'm a libertarian.
So you swung from being a liberal Democrat to a conservative?
Yeah.
I have a political backup.
My father was a politician in southern New Jersey.
My college roommate is currently Senator Robert Torricelli from New Jersey.
And I know politics inside and out.
And when I was very young, we had in my neighborhood, we had the death, the killing of an FBI agent.
Because this agent was investigating something that was going on of national significance in my own hometown.
And I was very privy to the fact that politics go on and people are killed.
At a young age I learned some lessons.
My doctor?
And Anthony Weiss says, I can't tell you.
Yeah, right.
He told me that.
Did he really say that?
Yes, he did.
He doesn't want to lose his license.
Another factor is, two months ago we had a dog.
He was fine.
He was 18 and a half pounds.
He was a Westie.
We wanted to go to Canada.
He got shots.
Within two months he was dead from cancer.
And this dog walked with me five miles a day.
You know, it's not unusual at all.
When you read the book Emerging Viruses, AIDS, and Ebola, you come to the conclusion and you see the documentation that all the polio vaccines, for example, and Dr. Hilleman, who is His background is incredible.
He's the world's leading vaccine developer.
He tells you that the yellow fever vaccines were full of leukemia viruses that they were sending out.
That the polio vaccines, we now know, were loaded with SV40, the 40th monkey virus ever discovered.
It caused cancer in virtually every animal it was injected into.
The fact of the matter is, from Salk through Sabin's vaccines, from the mid-50s through the, they say 1960s, early 60s, they started to clean it up.
False.
Wrong.
Continued through even the early 1990s.
We were injecting as many as 100 simian monkey cancer viruses per dose of the FDA approved oral polio vaccine in those little sugar tablets we all took.
Yeah.
So we have a cancer epidemic that was predicted in 1961 by Bernice Eddy, who was a brilliant researcher at NIH and the Bureau of Biologics there.
We do have a cancer epidemic.
I once read stats that just, I couldn't believe it.
It said, you know, like cancer in men, non-smokers, is up 300% since World War II.
Yes.
That's an amazing statistic.
I mean, we've got the war on cancer, right?
Well, we're losing that one.
Well, listen, we're smart.
If we can send people to the moon, we can figure out cancer that they don't want to.
It's a money maker.
More people living off of cancer than dying from it.
Well, as a matter of fact, AIDS is now in the same category.
This cocktail they've concocted that is keeping AIDS patients alive is very expensive, yes?
Horrible.
Another genocide.
That's precisely what Amnesty International, what got them involved, and then they came to me.
You know, when they learned about emerging viruses and the documentation therein, they were beginning to investigate the genocide that's ongoing in Africa, and then they decided to expand it into the minority populations here in the United States.
By the way, how bad is it now in Africa?
I was there about 8 months ago and I was just horrified.
I was in the ghetto of Kenya and there was 65-70% of the population there of 1.2 million that were being treated by one wonderful physician who came there to volunteer from Australia.
65-70% of the population were either HIV positive or had AIDS.
Oh my God.
65% of 1.2 million treated by one doctor.
People here have a hard time grasping those kind of numbers.
It's unbelievable.
It's another reality.
You know, one of the schools that we... That is another reality, you're right.
It's just unbelievable.
You know, there's a Christian school there that we supported, and the children, all of them, had lost their parents to AIDS, but yet they were happy.
The spirit of Africans and Africans alive and well, and that was such a lesson for me.
Coming from such a wealthy nation as ours and you know my children need to go over there and see how those children
Behave and what doctor do you think is the future or lack of it for Africa?
Well, that's very clear The writing is on the wall.
There will be between 30 to 50 percent of population reduction.
The nations of South Africa, for example, are under economic stress extreme because they simply can't keep the workers working.
Many, many of the companies there have had to go out of business because they're Employees have to go stand in lines that are hours long to get the slightest medicine for the infectious diseases that are resulting from immune suppression of AIDS.
Now, as you all know, there's at least one nation in Africa where the leader who is able to dictate what policy will be does not believe that AIDS is the cause, or the virus is the cause of AIDS.
Are you speaking about Mbeki from South Africa?
Yes, yes I am.
Many people have gotten him my materials.
A lot of people in Africa are distributing the book Emerging Viruses, AIDS, and Ebola.
And part of that decision, I believe, was based on the information that we had sent him.
See, HIV does not cause AIDS.
What causes AIDS is a combination of co-factors, everything from lifestyle risks and an agent called mycoplasma.
Mycoplasma is the principal Cause of the symptoms that we call AIDS.
And so then, is the fact that they have detected a virus associated with AIDS a fraud?
No, it's basically a co-factor to the immunosuppression.
What is a fraud is that they're saying that HIV causes AIDS.
That's the fraud.
It's basically, and the man involved in that, we talked about on your program three years ago, and he will be reinvestigated by Amnesty International coming in November.
today but dr robert gallo he is on the contract overseeing written biometrics the
army six top biological weapons developers that created numerous aids like viruses
way back in the late sixties and early nineteen seventies
the inductee along with the man who uh...
as it is a fight over who isolated uh...
of the aids virus in and it would Wasn't Dr. Geller involved with that?
It was French.
Yes, exactly.
With Luc Montaigne from France.
Right.
In 1984, allegedly, Dr. Geller discovered the AIDS virus.
Yes, yes.
And the fact of the matter is, he was associated and actually overseeing for the National Cancer Institute the entire project under which these types of viruses that were immune suppressive Well, we do know that there was congressional testimony about something that would attack the human immune system.
There was congressional testimony about that on the record.
That's right.
that uh... something that would attack the human immune system
there is the creation of something would attack the human immune system
there was congressional testimony about that on the record
that's right that's where the book emerging viruses began is with that particular classified never declassified it
got out because there's miles who was a black
air force of sergeant i believe he was filing right going through files
found it and then sent it to a doctor robert strecker dandy phd
with the six overall investigator worldwide to advance the man-made theory of hiv
aids right i didn't know any of that where i began my investigation
and uh... ultimately height then got from strecker that document that you're speaking
about and that's where we we've put it up front
Here's what it says.
Here's the quote from it.
This is 1969 for 1970 appropriations quote.
Over the next five to ten years it will be possible to make a new infective microorganism unlike anything previously.
That has the capability of causing immune suppression.
End quote.
That's it.
So, they were investigating the possibility of creation of something of that sort.
Yes.
And we've got it.
Yes.
The definition and the function of HIV-AIDS.
Coincidence.
Big coincidence.
Wild Card Line, you're on the air with Dr. Horowitz.
Hello.
Hi, this is Debra in San Antonio, Texas.
Yes, Debra.
This is a great show.
I hope the line is coming on for a lot of people.
I am.
I believe everything the doctor is saying.
I mean, all of it.
I've always suspected it.
I'm a full-time defendant.
Somebody's got to do it.
I'd love to be able to help.
Well, there's a pretty good question as in what can people do?
I mean, let's even get it down to a personal level.
Doctor, what can people do to prevent Let's say they believe you, and this lady obviously did, right down the line.
What can they do to prevent what's coming?
Because the average person probably isn't going to stop what's coming, so how do you defend against it?
Well, we published this material on HealingCelebrations.com.
First of all, you want to take right now five physical steps to prepare your body to defend itself against these types of plagues.
And those would be?
Number one, detox.
It's time to do some heavy duty cleaning of your body.
It's done by fasting.
Simple, inexpensive fasts.
We recommend a number of them on the HealingCelebrations.com website, as well as in the information in the book, Healing Celebrations.
Okay.
Number two is deacidification.
Here is a miracle.
Basically, this information will bless your audience for listening tonight.
This one piece of information is extraordinary.
If you simply change your body's chemistry, making it more alkaline, over 90% of the population, we have become acidified, and it is in the acidified state that's brought on by the following risk factors, lifestyle risk factors, caffeine, nicotine.
Sugar, refined carbohydrates, stress, alcohol, pharmaceuticals, and a lot of red meat.
That causes our body chemistry to become more acidified.
In the acidified state, we become virtual breeding grounds for bacteria, viruses, fungus, yeast, as well as cancers, as well as inflammatory states such as arthritis and other illnesses.
You, of course, are describing many of what some people regard as great pleasures in life.
Yes, unfortunately some of those if you really want to start optimizing your health and particularly there was somebody that called about Crohn's disease.
All of these autoimmune diseases can be easily resolved and cancer even reversed if you simply change your body's chemistry making it more alkaline.
So step two is deacidifying alkalizing.
Step three is boosting natural immunity holistically and naturally.
holistic model that we use and that we recommend in the Healing Celebrations book and materials
is physically, mentally, emotionally, socially, environmentally, and above all spiritually.
Step four and five are miraculous.
They've been heavily suppressed by the pharmaceutical industrialists.
The medical deities, I call them, the MDs know virtually nothing about them because they haven't been trained in Step 4, oxygenation therapies and technologies and products.
Oxygen, the more oxygen you can get into your body, the healthier you're going to be.
Everything from aerobic exercise to oxygenating products and hyperbaric oxygenation chambers
can reverse even things like polio symptoms or West Nile attacks that are causing this
paralysis.
Oxygen is miraculous and we explain why in the book Healing Celebrations and we begin
to get into it on the website.
Step five is the bioelectric technologies, everything from the right frequency generators
to what clustered water is.
Our DNA, in fact modern science proves is above all else, it is an electromagnetic receiver
They call it Photon Phonon Electromagnetic Reception and Transmission.
In other words, you know, how you can go to sleep at night feeling so dreadful and wake up in the morning so refreshed is all night long.
You've been virtually blessed by the love of God.
Now the scientists don't call it that.
They call it photon phonon emissions for intercellular communications for cellular up-regulation.
But the bottom line is that what's happening is your body is being rejuvenated electromagnetically first.
DNA, the entire human genome project we expose is a royal scam also.
Less than 3% of the function of DNA involves protein synthesis based on the template, the blueprint called DNA.
93 plus percent, according to three of the five top Nobel Prize winners in the field of medicine and genetics, won their prize money with a discovery that DNA's primary function, 93 percent of it, is engaged in photon-phonon emissions.
That is, electromagnetic reception and transmission for everything that's going on in your body at any given moment.
Alright, let's squeeze one in here.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Dr. Horowitz.
Hello.
Hi, it's Bruce from Toronto.
Yes, Bruce.
Yeah, the whole issue of, you know, big government conspiracy, I guess, you know, at times I'm not easily persuaded about these things.
But, you know, when you say, for instance, look at the whole 9-11 situation and some of the evidence that's been coming out over the last few months about what the government knew.
And, you know, recently you had The revelation that they'd known for quite some time that it was quite possible that airliners would not just be hijacked, but would be used in exactly the manner in which they were.
There were warnings, yes.
Yeah, and yet, I think it was several months ago, it might have even been Condoleezza Rice who said, well, we never thought that they would use airliners, you know, in the manner in which they did.
So that seems to me to be a direct contradiction.
Also, this FBI agent that was testifying last week under anonymity, that he had been told not to investigate somebody who turned out to be one of the hijackers.
Well, I think those people in Congress should be asking, who gave that order and why?
And also, when you look at the fact that the current president had at one point been had as a business partner one of bin laden's brothers now i
know it's a big family and everything but
you know i a u at the things up into to me it's starts to discern this smell
like the canopy conspiracy you know if you're you're you're smelling as dr
harris is complicity yeah i mean you know if you look at the at the the kennedy
assassination even if you only believe
you know if they want to have to what all over stone brought out in them
gfk you'd have to realize That would be a fair figure, about a chance.
Yeah, well, you know, even there, you'd have to realize that the official government version just doesn't watch.
Oh, well, right.
All right, listen, I've got to go.
We're running out of time, and I want to give Dr. Horowitz time to, again, plug his website and the telephone number for Death in the Air, which you can get.
I mean, if you're even mildly curious and think you might be onto something here, you're going to want to get that book.
Doctor?
Well, thank you, Art.
Bruce, are you living in Toronto?
I'm going to be in Toronto presenting the Healing Celebrations event on October the 5th.
That's just a week from Saturday.
So I hope you'll attend.
People can get information about that event or the books that we've discussed during the program by calling 888-508-4787.
calling 888-508-4787.
That's 888-508-4787.
Easy way to remember it is 888-50-VIRUS, V-I-R-U-S.
And you can also go to HealingCelebrations.com.
HealingCelebrations.com for a lot of great information on the health aspects that we've been talking about.
The book, Healing Celebrations, is what I urge people to get.
All right, doctor.
We're out of time.
Thank you.
Thank you so much, Art.
Thank you, Dr. Len Horowitz, and take care.
I'm Art Bell.
Now it's up to you.
You think about what you've heard.
You decide for yourself.
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