Art Bell welcomes Ginny Porter and Diana Burney, who specialize in remote energy clearing, addressing astral disturbances like fragmented souls (40% of cases) and demonic entities—including ET influences—with a 95% success rate in resolving curses. Their work, validated by nine years of accuracy, includes clearing the Dome of the Rock’s five negative portals before peace talks and releasing trapped spirits from disasters like India’s earthquakes or China’s collapses. Porter and Burney emphasize aura strengthening via meditation and raw foods to combat possession risks, even in hospitals where discarnate beings dominate. Bell ties their claims to real-world phenomena—from a caller’s paralyzing "divine" encounter to a Ghanaian man’s instant death testing a Juju spell—suggesting unseen forces shape human experiences beyond conventional explanations. [Automatically generated summary]
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unidentified
Listen, I've got a lot to say about power tonight.
I wonder how many of you heard the show I did with Dr. Day.
We were talking about vegetables, and I was saying that the lima bean is the most useless piece of vegetable that a human being could ever consider consuming.
It is foul in every regard, in any regard.
I mean, you look at a lima bean, it looks bad.
The texture of a lima bean is enough to cause a person to choke.
The taste of a lima bean is definitely enough to cause a human to choke.
I've always hated lima beans.
I told Dr. Day when I was young, we had a rule in our house, you eat everything on your plate or you don't get dessert.
That was a big rule.
I love the dessert, so I always, I swallowed my lima beans whole one at a time, like pills, green pills.
Put a lima bean in there, drink a little milk, and swallow it whole.
Until you finally get to your dessert.
Well, Dr. Day sent me a box, a box of chocolate-covered lima beans.
In a special box, chocolate-covered lima beans with a taste that is simply out of this world.
She made a special box for him.
And if there's anything that I think would be, unless it totally erased the texture, feel, touch, and taste of a lima bean, there is no amount of chocolate that could cause me to eat a lima bean.
And she writes that she doesn't approve of the chocolate, but if that'll get me to eat lima beans, fine.
Well, it won't.
But I did take a picture of the box of chocolate, chocolate-covered lima beans.
Good lord.
I took a picture with the special box she sent me.
Thank you, Dr. Day.
Well, all right, here we go.
Lead story, this hour.
An unseasonably warm first day of spring led to a second straight day of rolling blackouts across the entire length of the state in California Tuesday.
Well, Californian sphere could be a preview of this summer.
Oh, you bet.
The electricity went out in a half million homes and businesses from San Diego to the Oregon state line.
Air conditioners and refrigerators stopped humming.
Truss blinked out, went dark along with computer screens.
All this began at about 9.30 in the morning, lasting up to 90 minutes in any given neighborhood and continued until about 2 p.m.
The keepers of the state's power grid ordered the blackouts after electricity reserves dwindled to almost nothing.
Now, this country is run by idiots.
And after the program last night, I guess some people misinterpreted what I said.
I don't mean the present, the current idiots only.
The last administration, the Clinton administration, as far as power policy is concerned, they were idiots.
In fact, every administration going back to, well, you've got to give Carter Brownie points.
He tried with respect to energy, but he was the only one.
The Clinton administration did a big eight years of big fat zero, nothing.
Nothing.
Why are we not moving to alternative power?
Do you realize just in California, for example, to alleviate the present situation, I say again, the present situation, you're dealing in a few percentage points up near saturation of the grid in California.
To alleviate the current situation would not take that much solar, wind.
We look at any of them, solar, wind, geothermal.
California has those resources.
Now, wait a minute, they've got a coast, so they've got all that ocean energy they could be using.
My point is, whether it's solar, wind, or any of the other methods of generation, the green methods of generation, we're not doing them.
And it's not just California, it's everywhere else as well.
New York City, you know, a lot of people are wanting New York City to put an emergency plan, power plan into place before summertime gets here.
I mean, this is, hey, listen, this is just the beginning of spring, folks.
It's only just warming up.
It's not hot yet.
Just wait till it really gets hot.
Sacramento, it can get just like it is here in the desert, you know, way up there.
And everybody's going to turn on air conditioning, and those compressors are going to go thumpity-thump and your power grid is going to go.
That's what's going to happen.
But I want to strongly make the point that, as far as I'm concerned, save the Carter administration, which tried, every administration, every damn administration that we've had in office, a bar none, has roundly ignored alternative power to the point where, in my opinion, if they weren't politicians, they'd be criminally negligent.
It's a word I used last night, I'll use again tonight.
It's insanity.
We have, this is not future shock.
This is not something that we could be doing in the future if the technology evolves properly.
All of this technology is available now.
And I'm not talking about any free energy trip.
Maybe one day there will be free energy, but that day isn't today.
Everything costs something, and solar still costs quite a bit of money, no doubt about it.
As I pointed out to you last night, I've got enough solar and wind power here to run my house.
That's very expensive to do.
But if people just did a little bit, if they used the newer bulbs, for example, in their house, instead of this, do you know that, for example, there's a bulb sold by Philips and other people sell it, and it uses 20%, 20% of the energy.
Take, for example, a 60-watt bulb.
It produces 60 watts of light, just like any 60-watt bulb, but it uses 20% of the power.
Now, if people in California were using those instead of what they're using, wouldn't have a problem now.
Think about it.
If a few percent of you out there had solar power and you were feeding the grid with what you weren't using, wouldn't have a problem out there.
Wind power, very attractive in some areas.
Ocean power, thermal power.
But I think I would center my attention right now on solar power because it's there.
You can go buy it right now.
And it works.
And these people are absolutely clueless.
I mean, what do we see?
I picked on the Bush administration because they're the ones responding to the headlines right now.
And what do they respond with?
I see pictures of trucks with coal piled high.
I see wishes and hopes and recommendations to drill for more oil in Anwar and elsewhere.
Well, in the short term, you can bet we're going to have to do that.
But it's absolute insanity to begin to do that and not say one word about the future because, you know, this stuff isn't going to be around that long.
The oil is going to be gone eventually and not very far down the line.
The coal, the clean coal is going to be gone, and we'll have to use dirtier and dirtier coal.
So they need to get off their dust.
They really need to get off their dust and begin to get a clue.
So for those who said I was a communist pinko tree hugger, a fine, fine.
But I wanted to be sure you understood that as far as I'm concerned, all of this applies to every administration I can think of for all my life, including the present one, with the exception of Jimmy Carter, who sort of tried in that category and didn't get very much done.
And I think when Reagan got in office, he had whatever Carter had put in the White House torn down.
Good green symbol, huh?
And Ronald Reagan was one of my favorite presidents, to be sure.
But in terms of alternative energy and looking to the future, I mean, that's what our leaders are supposed to do, right?
They're supposed to look into the future, and they're supposed to begin planning for it today.
That's what leadership means.
Can you imagine working for a company that has around 500 employees and posts the following statistics?
29 have been accused of spousal abuse.
Of that 500, 7 have been arrested for fraud, 19 accused of writing bad checks, 117 have directly or indirectly bankrupted at least two businesses.
Three have done time for assault.
71 cannot get credit cards due to bad credit.
14 have been arrested for drug-related charges.
8 have been arrested for shoplifting.
21 currently defendants in lawsuits.
84 have been arrested for drunk driving in the last year.
Can you guess what organization that would be?
It's the 525 members of the U.S. Congress, the same people who are helping you out with the energy crisis right now.
And again, here's another one typical, right?
This one a little less strident.
Mr. Bell, last night you castigated the current president for not providing leadership on alternative fuels.
Did the previous administration provide such leadership?
Hell no.
Hell no.
Of course they didn't.
So in case you were thinking that I was lambasting only the Bush administration, wrong.
They're all guilty.
It's just that the Bush administration is the current guilty one.
Carter didn't do damn, not Carter, but Clinton didn't do a damn thing for eight years.
Not for eight years.
We sat on our duffs.
So, why should we be surprised now?
unidentified
California has power problems, big power problems.
We've got a couple of guests coming next hour, and we'll see what they have to say, Jeannie Porter and Diana Burney.
And, you know, they wrote to me, they wrote a pretty interesting letter to me, and that's why they're on.
They said, as predicted by Gordon Michael Scallion in his newsletter, issue 37, October of 94, that's some time ago now, he stated that astral entities would be on the increase and would be creating great psychic disturbances.
Our work confirms this prediction as truth.
During the past 18 months, we have noticed an almost exponential increase in entities with our clients and these people who cleanse these sorts of things.
But they say that we are going through what Gordon Michael Scallion predicted would occur, an exponential increase in entities, things creating great psychic disturbances.
It almost goes back to a show we did the other day about evil and that sort of thing.
So, you know, some of it might be romantic in between the rest of it.
Still sure you want to go?
Sure.
Well, now, is there time travel?
That's probably the eternal question.
Is there time travel?
I think there is.
I think that time travel will be known, generally known to be something that is going on shortly.
And if you just close your eyes for a moment and you imagine that if there ever is going to be time travel and if travel into the past is going to be possible, then the time travelers are no doubt here now.
They're coming, going, visiting certain areas and times for certain reasons, either because they can change the timeline ahead or just as tourists.
You never know.
Probably some of them coming back now to see the great California blackouts of Aught 1.
Somebody eternally asking in the Fast Blast, do I ever read these things?
Yes, I do all the time.
Chris in Eugene, Oregon asks, Art, would you rather eat chocolate-covered bugs or your beans?
I think that chocolate-covered bugs, depending on the bugs, you'd have to specify the bug.
And lime beans are right on up there near a coin toss.
All right, back to it.
And one more thing about the damn blackouts in California and soon probably elsewhere.
You know, I don't really care whether it's the power companies that are doing this, whether it's poor planning that did it, whether there's just not enough energy, whether this plan or that plan is offline, whatever it is.
The fact of the matter is that at the margins, right now, soon, if anybody was doing it, if anybody was talking about it, we could be having enough solar and wind power and other alternative measures to stop it.
Whatever is causing it.
Let's not even have that argument.
Who cares?
It's happening.
So we could make the difference at the margins.
No, we couldn't put up enough solar and wind to power the state of California, and we couldn't do that for quite a while.
That would be quite a significant project, if not presently impossible.
But to do it at the margins, to prevent what's going on right now, you bet you're bippy we could do it.
All it takes is the will.
We had a president stand up and say, let's go to the moon, and we went.
Yeah, if you want to, you know, people have no idea how much power they really draw.
The fact of the matter is they draw a lot of power.
And if you want to put in enough alternative energy to really take care of everything, yeah, you're spending 30 or 40 grand.
And the average person absolutely can't do that.
However, ma'am, they can do something a little less.
You don't have to power your whole house.
You can get a solar panel, an inverter, which will supply probably cleaner power than the electric company sends you, and you can partially subsidize what's happening at your house for a whole lot less money.
unidentified
Okay, well, I'd like to, you know, say a couple of things.
First of all, anyone that hears my voice should call or contact Bush, and everybody should be outraged by this.
Everybody should contact their congresspeople.
And the other thing that we found that we could do here, you know, because I am out in the country, I know a lot of people can't do it, but I don't use my clothes dryer anymore.
In other words, when you have your water heater off, then when you do turn it on, however electrically or with gas you heat your water, it's got to take it from cold all the way back up to whatever temperature you normally have in it.
Unfortunately, we're in a present circumstance where we really do have to do that.
I tell you, I think we're really, really headed for trouble this summer.
Supposedly, you Californians were all taken care of with all the extra money to buy the power, but gee, whiz, the power is going out anyway, and that was on the first warm day.
Try to imagine what's going to happen when the temperatures in Sacramento and Fresno and all those areas that really inland California, actually just about anywhere, begin to go up to the desert temperatures and the air conditioners click on.
I appreciate all that, but if you consult with nearly any geologist, they will tell you what they know about how much oil is left, and there's a consensus on that.
It's not much in contention.
unidentified
Gotcha.
And I fully support what you're saying and what you're doing.
And I'm very happy that you're speaking on this issue because it's very close to a lot of our hearts.
And it would be a serious crime if they drill in Anwar.
Listen, I'm not going to say it would be a serious crime for them to drill in Anwar.
The fact of the matter is that ALISCA proved that they could put in an environmentally friendly pipeline, and it was.
No tragedies associated with the pipeline.
Yeah, a ship dumped a bunch of oil, but no tragedies with the pipeline.
As a matter of fact, they found that a lot of the wildlife liked the pipeline.
It was warm.
They cuddled up to it.
It resulted in more mating because I guess they were happy animals up against that warm pipeline.
And they did it.
So it may be possible that we can drill in Anwar, but that's not my point, or they even should drill in Anwar, because in the short term, we are going to need oil and we are going to need coal.
I say again, in the short term, we have to have them.
That's what makes our economy go round.
Or begin to damn well change what makes our economy go round.
We better plan for the short term and the long term.
And my complaint is not that we're planning for the short term.
In other words, last night I reserved my comments for what we're doing right now, which to political reactionary people meant he's attacking George W. You see.
And so they reacted to that.
It doesn't matter whether they think I'm right or wrong on the issue.
They just can't stand hearing their favorite politician attacked.
Well, I'll attack every single one of them, save Carter, on this issue.
And they're all dummies.
unidentified
Well, and plus, well, they probably have oil money on their mind.
But then you have to think, as far as the economy and everything, what about all the businesses that would be losing business and money and time if the power went out?
You know, the power failure yesterday was right through a very important part of California where they do a lot of chip work, where there are computers everywhere, Silicon Valley, and that's where the power went out.
Do you have any idea what it does to a company in manufacturing to have the power suddenly just go out?
It will eventually, actually, it'll drive them out of the state eventually, and California will begin to lose yet more businesses.
unidentified
Exactly.
Well, can I ask you one question?
When you say that it's really expensive, and I know the previous caller gave the estimate of how much it would have cost her to power her house.
Well, I'm sure there are many, many, many tortured souls.
South Africa is really having a problem, and their problem is that they have been freed, and they don't know how to handle freedom, and it has turned into anarchy and serious anarchy.
You think we have crime in some of our streets here.
There, if you go out, you better have armed bodyguards with you.
No, because I didn't go into the cities, but I read their newspapers while I was there, and to them, crime is the norm now.
The norm in the cities.
In fact, I saw people in any number of South African cities that, you know how they, you know how here in America you'll see people, the sign says, I'll work for food, right?
Yeah, I know, but you know, none of that, whatever it is, we could argue that until we're blue in the face about what's doing this.
I don't care.
If we began to put up alternative power, it wouldn't mess.
Everything in the world is supply and demand.
unidentified
Just a point is if the state of California decides to seize back the power companies here that are transferring power to other states, it's all on you people.
If everybody begins to put a little bit of alternative power onto the grid.
unidentified
We are doing that.
Anyone in the state of California who does any type of solar, any type of their own generating through natural gas, et cetera, et cetera, the state is already covering costs for 50% of that conversion.
Well, I know the idiocy, it's from the idiocy arose from the top down.
I appreciate your call, sir, and believe me, it's all the way through the grid.
There's no question about it.
But just to emphasize one more time, I'm not just talking about George Bush, although obviously the news is about him because he's the current president, but Clinton sat on his butt for eight years.
Eight years.
Eight long years he sat on his butt on this issue.
Anyway, we're going to turn our attention to other things, to Florida and a couple of young ladies and what they have to say about ghosts.
unidentified
I've seen that life was so wonderful A miracle, a wonderful, beautiful magic of hope And all the birds in the trees made me singing so happily.
Oh, joyfully, oh, joyfully what you need.
But then they send me a way, teach me how to be sensible.
Logical, oh, irresponsible, practical.
Then they show me a world where I could be so deep and I know Oh baby Mmm Mmm Mmm Mmm Mmm Mmm Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh
Oh Oh Oh Leave me this way I can't stay further without your love.
Oh, baby, don't leave me this way.
I can't exist.
I'm sure the miss.
Your sympathy this way.
Wanna take a ride?
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This is Coaster Coast AM with Art Bell from the Kingdom of Nye.
Coming up in a moment, Ginny Porter and Diana Burney.
And they're on the air because they sent me a very interesting facts about what they do.
They suggested that, as Gordon Michael Scallion in his newsletter, issue 37, 1994, stated, astral entities would be on the increase and would be creating great psychic disturbances.
Their work, they explain, confirms all of this is true.
During the last 18 months, they have noticed an almost exponential increase in entities.
They have clients.
They queer these kinds of things, apparently.
But they have noticed a gigantic increase, and that's the main focus of my interest is, well, you know, we talked for quite a while about real evil in this world versus the evil inside man.
And I tend to think there really is real evil.
We'll talk to them about that a lot more in a moment.
All right, now to Florida and Ginny Porter and Diana Bernie.
Welcome you two.
unidentified
Hi, Art.
This is Ginny Porter, and we're very, very happy to be here.
You caught my attention with this facts you sent me about Gordon Michael's prediction that things as we progressed in what I call the quickening would begin to get pretty frantic with entities or ghosts.
I don't know what we're going to call them, and we'll discuss all that, but all of this would begin to increase exponentially.
And you're saying it's true it has done so in the last 18 months?
unidentified
Well, yes.
I've been following Gordon Michael since his newsletters first came out, I think, 91, 92.
I'm not sure exactly when I started taking them.
And I also have been doing this process of remote clearing since 1992.
So I've been tracking it for, you know, almost, well, nine years or more.
And I've noticed now in the last 18 months that we're finding more people that are becoming more aware of unseen energies, and more people are becoming aware of where they're finding it, and more people are seeking to have these energies removed.
Oh, well, fragmented souls are when part of an entity leaves, but the other part is attached to someone they love, to a possession, to a revenge, to an ideal.
There's some of the cultures like the Native Americans and the shamanic cultures actually do soul retrievals and bring back those parts that are splintered.
And there is a belief system that we have different checkout points in our life over the blueprint of our life where we actually have a choice to stay or go.
And I just don't mean like trapped on the earth plane, but I mean trapped and confined in an area.
I know it sounds weird, but I had a guy who called, oh, years ago now, and he had a bunch of electronic equipment set up and actually claimed to have trapped a spirit within a specific area in a room so it could not get out.
Have you ever heard of anything like that?
unidentified
I haven't heard of anything specifically like that, but we have removed lots of negative energies from computers.
Well, most times I think it's cockpit error, you know, but I really do believe there are computers that it seems there is no logical explanation at all for what they're doing.
I mean, they will continue to crash and cause trouble, and every program you run will have a problem.
The blue screen of death is around every corner, and no matter what you look into or what operating system you replace, it doesn't matter.
The late Father Malachi Martin, who I had the pleasure to interview extensively, many times, didn't think there was evil.
He knew there was evil.
He was an exorcist and had been an exorcist for years and years and years and had exorcised real evil from people many times and had come face to face in a psychic battle to the death with evil.
And so he believed it thoroughly, and I believe him.
unidentified
I say that I would probably believe that experience, too.
Now, you said that psychic entities are really exponentially on the increase.
Is there any delineation between the relatively harmless entities that you see and the darker entities that seem to be around a lot lately?
unidentified
Art, we do see, this is Jenny Porter, and we do see a number of, in fact, a significant increase in the higher level energies, what we call the off-planet energies, and those from the astral plane, which we, or the astral influences, and the different, we have over 80 different energies that we check for that may be present, hopefully not all at the same time.
We check for, I mean, ETs, I mean, we, for instance, ETs is one of those 80 categories.
But there are a number of other areas, too, that are off the planet, too.
But ETs are more than just ETs for us because there are different areas of ETs that we check for as far as whether there are implants involved or whether there are what we call inner shadows and overshadows.
I mean, it gets fairly complicated, and I really don't want to get into the details of each of the categories, but there are tremendous numbers of influences that ETs by themselves can have on a person.
In fact, many, many times, people call us and they feel they're almost ashamed to mention that they've had involvement with ETs, but so many more people now are calling us with those types of energies until it's become fairly, I won't say common, but it certainly is increasing.
You know, the Earth is so turbulent right now with the weather patterns and the global warming and everything that has been predicted is, you know, the hot spots are going all over the United States.
And with the number of increase in energies, there's been more energies opening coming into the planet, too.
Some people believe it's portals.
Some people believe it's old energy that was in the Earth that's opening up now to be released.
I'm not real sure of the actual origins of these energies, but people are becoming more aware of it and they're talking about it more.
It's almost like the near-death experience 20 years ago when people experienced that, but they didn't know who to talk to about it.
And now with movies like Sixth Sense and Ghost and a plethora of other movies out there, actually it corresponds to what people are experiencing, so they're talking more freely.
Well, then some would make the argument there aren't really more entities out there or bothering people or stuck on earth or however you want to put it.
They're just being talked about more.
Is there something to that?
unidentified
Well, I think both.
I think people are becoming more aware of energies, and I do think that it's stepped up because of me doing this for almost 10 years.
How is a mother to know whether you are cursed or you're just having a string of horrible luck?
unidentified
Well, you know, people really don't know, but they have a sense when so many, you know, when Murphy's Law goes all the time in their life, they have a sense that their life isn't working.
And usually when we do find a curse, they're relieved because it makes sense what was going on in their life.
Suppose I were to call you up, the two of you, and I would say, look, I don't know what kind of work you normally do, but I have $500 here for you if you can put a curse on Mr. X over there.
I'm saying who are we, though, to play God, you know, with anyone?
And because what happens is, in all seriousness, this is something that's sort of very near and dear to my heart because I see so many people that come to us, and I feel tremendous compassion for them because when you realize what type of energies and entities and abuse that they've taken, then you have just incredible compassion, and you feel like, good grief, how in the world were they managing even doing what they were doing?
It's not that I'm acknowledging or accepting or any of their behavior at all or even denying that things should be done as far as putting them in prison or whatever.
But the thing is, what I'm saying is there are so many other reasons.
Just because the energies are unseen, people just don't understand what's going on in their lives.
I mean, now you could really prove to the world if two or three days from now or a week from now, Charlie's weaving baskets in his cell.
unidentified
Well, there's a problem with this.
You see, if they're staying in the same environment where there's all sorts of other things that go bump in the night, then it's not going to stay clear.
There's certain things people have to do to keep themselves protected and in a clear space.
And A, he wouldn't be interested in doing that, and B, he wouldn't be in an environment that would support that.
Ah, so in other words, you can clear somebody of these things, but they can come right back.
unidentified
Well, not necessarily.
The same energies do not come back, but if they go and have surgery or they have an auto accident or they go to a cemetery or play with a Ouija board or they go to a funeral parlor, they could pick up something else.
Do you think right now, and this is something else I discussed with Evelyn, that on balance, when you look at everything that's happening in society, but you girls don't watch the news much, that the darker side is winning or the lighter side is winning?
unidentified
There's no doubt.
We believe the lighter side is definitely winning.
Evan Paglini, Evelyn Paglini thought the dark side was definitely ahead right now, as evidenced by what's going on in society.
unidentified
Well, you know, our perspective is art, that people are calling and they're telling us daily when they talk with us that they are ready to change, they're ready to get out of the rut, they're ready to move ahead, and they're tired of where they've been.
So, you know, our focus is actually on the group that we work with, and they're increasingly coming to us for that.
Well, a placebo in medicine is when you give somebody, let's say they've got arthritis, all right?
They've got arthritis, and so you give them this arthritis pill, but it's really nothing but a sugar pill or whatever.
You know, it doesn't actively do anything.
But, you know, in a high percentage of the cases, when the people take those pills, oh my God, my arthritis is so much better.
I can move my hand now and that sort of thing.
There's a high percentage of cure rate, and it's the placebo factor.
And so I was wondering, how much of what you do is sort of a psychic placebo for people.
They think you tell them you've gotten rid of whatever it is, and so by golly, they feel that it's gone.
unidentified
That's an interesting question.
I don't think we've ever explored that, but in the thousands of clearings that I've done, I found that I've been able to tell people things that they didn't tell me that were very specific that changed their life that had nothing to do with their thinking it was gone because they never shared that information with me in the first place.
Do you think it's a talent inherent in all human beings at some level or another?
unidentified
I don't think I'll answer that, Art, and I actually do not think that that's necessarily true.
I think that everyone actually has psychic gifts, and it's a matter of exploring those.
But psychic gifts is like the whole football field, and you can choose different ones.
But as far as, let's say, using dowsing as an example, I've tried dowsing, and I actually, it's very, very difficult for me because it's just something that I've realized it's not appropriate for me, and I get information in different ways.
So I think that it's a matter of determining or figuring out what it is that you do best, and then doing that, and really putting your energy behind that.
Well, one of my gifts is actually the gift of vision.
In fact, when you were just talking about the psychic placebo effect, one thought came to my mind was we were working with a woman who owned horses down in the, we've worked with a lot of different horses, actually.
And I love animals so deeply that I encourage it.
And we were working with a horse, and she was riding around the ring, and the horse, when it reached a certain point in the ring, would just be terrorized.
And she couldn't figure it out.
And she found out about us and called us.
And when we checked on the inner, because I had this gift of vision, I saw that there was an etheric blockage on the etheric level.
Yeah, a horse definitely would totally either freeze or stumble or try to jump or whatever if it perceived a gate in front of it.
unidentified
That's what it is.
And that's exactly what was happening.
And the woman was just beside herself because and so what happened was, and we, of course, don't go into a lot of details, but in fact, a lot of times we don't even hear, you know, because everybody goes on their happy way and they feel much better.
And that's the way it should be because we don't want people tethered to us.
But in this case, the woman did let us know that after the clearing, the horse went around the ring and did not even have any problems at all.
And that's not that uncommon because you'd be amazed at how many energies animals absorb for people.
They're like sponges.
And I just have, like I said, so much compassion.
In fact, when we clear a home for a person, we clear the animals in the home as a gift because we know, and it's very, it's time-consuming for us, but they are just amazing at protecting the owners.
Like, if you had cats or dogs in your home, they would be absorbing the energies in your home and also protecting you.
You guys know I love cats and you're playing me, right?
unidentified
No, no, we don't.
Everybody knows cats are sensitive.
Yeah.
I mean, cats are truly much more sensitive to dogs with the energies.
In fact, if you were to take, this has happened to us, where people a number of times have taken their cats into a new home and the cat has actually passed away because the cat absorbed the intensity of the negative energy in that particular home.
I wonder if that accounts for a lot of why cats get sick because they are absorbing something.
unidentified
Well, based on what we have released from cats, and like I said, we have done it, almost every single domestic cat we have released has been, you know, as a gift, and we do it, and we take just as much care with them as if they were an individual because they're so sensitive.
do a lot of businesses and we do a lot of homes and properties and work with a number of realtors because what happens is Specter of Canad Homes raised, should vendor be obliged to disclose grisly history?
That is actually something that's extremely interesting to us because people who have died in, where you have homes where people have died or there's been intense abuse, then there is a, in a number of states, they require somebody has passed away in a home that that be acknowledged at the time of the sale.
All right, I am a police officer in Jacksonville, Florida.
I've attached a story that I've meant to send you for a while now.
I work midnights and listen quite often.
Glad you're back, by the way.
While working one summer evening shift, myself and another officer were flagged down by a local convenience store clerk.
The clerk stated that an old black man went into the store and disappeared.
The clerk said that she was about to go outside to smoke a cigarette when he drove up in a brown Cadillac and came inside.
He walked past the store counter, which is all of five feet in front of the store.
He smiled at the clerk and went into the men's restroom without uttering a single word.
After about 15 minutes and the arrival of yet another person, the man had not returned from the restroom yet.
Both ladies went to the bathroom door and knocked, asking if he was okay.
No answer.
They tried the doorknob.
It was locked.
After several more minutes, they went back and checked the door again.
It opened and no one was inside.
Neither lady had left the store and the man would have to have walked past them to leave the business.
That's where myself and the officer come into the story.
We checked the entire building inside and out, including trash cans, the suspended ceiling, the walk-in cooler.
After several minutes of searching, we informed the ladies that he must have left without them seeing him go.
However, the old Cadillac was still in the parking lot.
So we left the store and continued our patrol.
Around an hour later, I heard from the other officer.
He said he went back to the business.
The car was gone, and he asked about the old man.
Clerk told him that shortly after we left, the men's bathroom door opened, and the old man came out.
He just smiled at her as he left in his Cadillac without saying a word to her.
Well, about two years and a beat and shift change later, I was in the same store one day to get a drink.
I told the clerk on duty about the old man, but not about the car.
He asked me if he was driving a brown Cadillac and if the man wore a golf kango hat.
That's K-A-N-G-O, Kango hat, I guess.
A bit shocked, I said that indeed he had been.
The new clerk said that he had lived in the neighborhood behind the store all his life and that an old man had committed suicide behind the store several years before.
He ran a hose from his exhaust pipe to inside the car, which happened to be an old brown Cadillac.
Ladies, what was it that those people in that store and those police officers were experiencing?
This man committed suicide in an old brown Cadillac behind that store.
When we checked on that one, I know at the time there were over 100 sailors sub.
But when we checked it, as far as to see, you know, if there were any discarnates Trapped on it, we only found 52, it was either 52 or 54 discarnates there.
And so, what that to me said was there must have been a sudden accident that killed a number of those sailors initially that they didn't have a chance to repair because if you knew you were going, that is a much gentler way to depart than if it's a sudden jolt.
That's interesting because, you know, most people say they don't really want to linger around in some profound pain or terminal condition, and they'd just soon have a big old Mac truck hit them, and that'd be it.
But that's not so good for the soul, huh?
unidentified
Oh, no, no, no.
No, no, no.
It causes a lot of confusion when it's that fast, there's no preparation.
I mean, if somebody were to lose their mate after 20 or 30 years of marriage, or even less, it would profoundly, profoundly affect the living partner, obviously, and they are going to grieve.
And you're saying that grieving process holds or binds the spirit to earth?
unidentified
Well, no, I'm not saying that necessarily because the grief process is very important, and it takes a number of months and sometimes years to complete because it is a process.
But I'm saying that there are some pathological things that do keep people tied to the earth by grieving unnecessarily for someone and not letting them move on.
The grieving and the love and the fact that you're holding on to them in your mind, which is something we tend to do with people who leave us in a way.
unidentified
But there's healthy grief and there's pathological grief, I guess.
That's what I'm trying to make a distinction between.
Like after five years, if you haven't gotten over the death of someone, that's pathological.
I mean, not that you're going to forget them, but I mean, if you're still, you burst into tears in every moment, you haven't worked through the process.
You're stuck somewhere in the process.
So you need some counseling.
But the other thing I think the point we're trying to make is if you have someone who is in the dying process and you have a family around them who won't let them go, they can't bear the thought of being without them when it's the need, their need, that they're concerned about and the loss of the person rather than the person's highest good as far as moving on to the place where it's time for them to go.
And that's the other thing we were trying to make, too.
When I was in school, we didn't have these stories.
In fact, I can't remember one.
If there was one, I'd be shocked.
Now, it's every few days you hear about a school shooting, students planning to poison their teachers, students killing other students and or teachers.
It's almost as though an evil has been loosed on the world.
unidentified
Well, it has increased.
I agree with that.
And the Earth's vibrations have increased, which has been documented scientifically.
And time has increased because allegedly we have like a 45-minute hour now.
So I think people are having trouble dealing also with these energies, and they're acting out.
Well, what I've been reading from different sources, and I really can't quote you right now from where I read them, but that the Earth's access has sped up and our time is shortened.
Maybe this will resonate with you and maybe not, but there's a great deal of current research to indicate, it's not talked about a lot, but to indicate after somebody has undergone a very invasive procedure, for example, a heart bypass operation, that on the other side, once they've recovered and the blood is circulating around just fine, they're not the same.
That their personality has materially altered.
Are you familiar with that?
unidentified
I'm not familiar with the research, but frequently people that undergo anesthetic or invasive procedures do have entities come in because their auric field, that area that protects us electromagnetically around us, is vulnerable.
Has there been a case that you have not been able to do anything about?
unidentified
Oh, yes.
Occasionally, we would not receive permission because we only do anything that we do, we must have permission from, from the person, and then Diana Dalls before we do any work to make sure that the higher self gives us permission.
So in a couple cases, and it's very, very, very rare, but we have received that information that we can't go forward.
Most times it's somebody in the family who throws up their hands and hires an exorcist because they've tried everything else.
unidentified
Well, that's a little different than the league we work in, but we still get permission from another.
We ask the universe, okay, we just ask the universe if we can have permission.
And we almost always get permission to do that.
It's very rarely that we are not allowed to do that.
But basically, if you said if we've ever done anything we couldn't handle or get rid of, as far as the clearing checklists and everything, the answer is no.
I mean, presumably a coin flipping around zillions of times in the air before it comes down could be affected by the universe in a random way to give you an answer as easily as a pendulum, wouldn't you think?
unidentified
I guess so, but you know, I never did well in statistics.
If the universe decides with the pendulum whether or not you should proceed, Chris in Eugene asks, couldn't a malevolent spirit mess with the pendulum?
How would you know that it's the good guys that are answering?
unidentified
Because I have a column of light and I have protection.
I've got all the angelic beings around me protecting me and I ask for only truth to come through the pendulum and it hasn't forsaken me now for 10 years.
When we were doing work after the Dome of the Rock and we were working in a rock, even though we had a significant number of people working with us, the energy was so intense there until our guidance was that we had to stop because we were getting constantly.
And if people are in a home that had bickering and divorce, even a divorce situation, but constant violence or negativity, then that's imprinted in the energy of the home.
And the next people that move into it are just living in the same energy.
In other words, people have been found to be creaking around on upper floors, opening doors, slamming cabinets, all the poltergeist kind of things that you would think about.
But you know what it turns out to be?
It turns out to be a living ghost.
In other words, even though that person is gone, they were there for 10 or 20 or 30 years, and something of them is left in that house, haunting it as a ghost would.
You've heard of that?
unidentified
Well, we call that soul fragment, but a living ghost would probably be.
A rose by any other name would still be slamming the cabinets.
That's really, really interesting.
And I'm trying to figure out exactly what it means with regard to life and death.
We think we have ghosts, and I guess we do of those who have passed something left, but then there's something left when people are alive, too.
So does that take away from the vision that, you know, we've moved somewhere else when we die?
unidentified
Well, mostly that isn't in all the cases, but there are people that do get attached to their belongings and to addictions, you know, and to their bodies.
People get attached to their bodies, and part of them wants to stay.
Well, for me, it's radios, and I can tell you after I'm gone, I sure wouldn't want to own any of my radios because I'm going to be flying around in there for sure.
unidentified
Well, one of the things that we've discovered in so many of the homes that we work with, in fact, I have a great deal of compassion for the new homeowners because now there's so many divorces that do happen that a home that may be 25 years old may have had several families living in it that have actually ended in divorce.
Yeah, well, unfortunately, that's no laughing matter, actually.
But anyway, the other thing we find is we, in addition to divorce energy, we find hatred, we find rage, we find terror, we find a multitude of energies, but some emotions.
But some of these are very, very, very serious.
And I feel like, this is the way I feel, I would honestly like to see for any rental house or any house at Seoul that it would be cleared because I feel like at least clear the boards so that the next person coming in would be able to move in without having the energies, the resident energies from whoever has lived in it since the time it was constructed.
And the other thing that's really interesting to me is occasionally, especially in the South, we find battleground energies on certain locations.
And these are some of the most intense energies that you can imagine because you think about it.
If people were out there killing each other With all the emotion and anger and all that they have, and putting every single bit of themselves into it.
Think about all that emotion that may be there.
And when we release that from properties, it is unbelievable as far as the release of those energies.
And, you know, a lot of times when you buy a used car, people joke, you know, you're buying somebody else's problems.
When you buy a used house, you're saying that you really are, in fact, buying into their specific problems.
unidentified
Absolutely.
And think about it.
If somebody were into, let's say, very addicted or, you know, drugs and alcohol in a deep way and they were, gosh only knows what they were into, and think about what they would have been bringing home regularly.
There is no telling.
You can't believe what we end up seeing and finding in homes that people have moved into.
And then they're calling us because they feel weird and they just don't feel right about it.
All right, suppose I called you up and I said, look, I've moved into this house and everything's been hellish since I moved in, including my life and my relationships and just my time in the house.
Well, you know, it's just like the way prayer works for anyone.
Or, you know, people can, that's been proven for many, many years, that you can actually create change on the other side of the world by just focusing through your focus and intent.
Well, the thing is, though, look at it from another way, though.
It is not a bad idea from another way.
And that is that if the politicians who have been around shaking everybody's hand up and down the coast and across the world, they need to be cleared more than anyone.
Because think about, and they probably have the least amount of protection for any of these energies.
So their auras are probably threaded.
And one of the things we talk about with every person we work with is to make sure that they are aware of strengthening their auras because that's their major line of protection.
Well, one of the ways that you can do that is just by being conscious of it.
And what you think about, what you do, actually, those are the things, the activities that you actually participate in actually create problems for yourself.
I would rather have a sagging aura than eat lime of beans.
unidentified
Well, there are other options besides lime of beans, fortunately.
But the other thing is, talking about the homes, we were just talking about the homes.
One of the things, Art, that we found is, and we do a lot of work with medical centers, and we've done work with hospitals and places like that, nursing homes.
We found that there are probably three to one ratio, at least or more, on discarnate beings to individuals who are actually in those places.
Well, I think if most people are honest with themselves, they know that they don't like the feel of a hospital.
They don't like the feel of a nursing home.
unidentified
And there's a reason for that.
There is definitely a reason for that because some of these hospitals are places that have been around.
Think about all the people who have passed away, all the fragmented souls, and all the things that have happened there.
And think about it.
If you had to go to the hospital and you moved into a room where the last person had been, where they were terrified, you know, and had all these emotions that had just been released, and there you walked in trying to be cool, calm, and collected about whatever was happening, it'd be almost impossible.
Well, actually we have- Do you have an industrial charge, a personal charge, right, for a clearing?
unidentified
But the thing is, what we run up against is that so many of these places are so cost-conscious that it's very, very difficult for them to find a way to provide these services.
But I believe it'll be like getting your elevator serviced eventually, where you'll expect to have a certificate, where something's been inspected.
I think that people in this country are waking up so fast until they'll realize those energies are there and they won't want their loved ones in those environments.
I'm Art Bell, and we're about to head into Open Lines.
Did you hear the news, Top of the Hour?
More rolling blackouts later today for California.
It just continues.
The warm weather continues.
It's getting warmer.
In fact, soon, it'll be summertime and it'll be hot.
And you've got to really got to wonder what's going to happen then.
All right, we're going to open lines here in a moment.
Just a couple of things that I wanted to run by you.
Somebody sent this to me, and I thought it was really cute.
These are ads that actually have run in newspapers, but ads that should have been proofread.
For example, dinner special, turkey, $2.35.
Chicken or beef, $2.25.
Children, $2.
Dog for sale, eats anything and is fond of children.
Dog for sale, eats anything and is fond of children.
We do not tear your clothing with machinery.
We do it carefully by hand.
Mount Kilimanjaro, the breathtaking backdrop for the Serena Lodge.
Swim in the lovely pool while you drink it all in.
Or this, so simple.
Stock up and save.
Limit one.
Used cars.
Why go elsewhere to be cheated?
Come here first.
Wanted.
Preparer of food.
Must be dependable, like the food business, and be willing to get hands dirty.
Semi-annual Christmas sale.
Semi-annual Christmas sale?
Scientists have now discovered that the purring of cats, this is new, folks, is a natural healing mechanism that has helped inspire the myth that they have nine lives.
Wounded cats, wild and domestic, purr because it helps their bones and organs to heal and grow stronger, say researchers who have now analyzed the purring of different feline species.
This, they say, explains why cats survive falls from high buildings, why they are said to have nine lives.
Exposure to similar sound frequencies is known to improve bone density in humans.
So, the old myth about cats having nine lives has a foundation to it.
The scientists from the FANA, FAUNA, Communications Research Institute, North Carolina, found that between 27 and 44 Hertz, a measure of the number of cycles per second, was the dominant frequency for a house cat, and 20 to 50 hertz for the puma, oslop, cheetah, and others.
This reinforces studies confirming that exposure to frequencies of 20 to 50 hertz strengthens human bones and helps them to grow.
So there's an old wives' tale with an obvious grain of truth in it.
Interesting, huh?
I thought so.
I've always wondered, it still doesn't exactly tell us where the per comes from.
I don't think that science knows about that.
Oh, and by the way, for any hams out there, I know a lot of hams listen to.
I'm a ham, W6OBB.
Here's something I thought I'd heard of everything under the sun, but in Green Bay, Wisconsin, the LiveWire Group, an amateur radio organization, recorded the first liquid antenna to liquid antenna contact today.
Liquid antennas are a new concept developed on the LiveWire Group and are currently being experimented with by the group's members.
A liquid antenna.
Some of them are liquid pumpable to resonant lengths.
That's really interesting.
And by the way, the liquid contains salt, so it's conductive.
And I suppose the more salt, the more conductive.
But this really is a new thing under the sun.
I had never heard of liquid antennas before, but what I have now makes a person want to try one.
Well, maybe you should give more consideration to the secret societies because if none of them can do anything, including Carter, maybe somebody else is pulling the string.
I was thinking tonight while I was listening to Ginny and Diane that phenomena really are symptoms and symbols providing an opportunity to expand one's awareness about each of our hours' most profound relationship, perhaps.
Well, this is supposed to be the high-grade digital, but I'm sorry to say you should hear the echo coming, all the echoes coming back in front of the car.
Oh, yeah, lithium ions can drive good and bad cell phones.
unidentified
Yeah, but I have to say that I'm at a weak signal strength area right at this moment, and that I was using the car speakerphone adapter to get the higher power, which comes with a 13.8 volt.
The anomaly was a thing that you announced from a couple of gentlemen that were in Dayton, Ohio, a couple of, I believe it was a couple of college students, that said that they were seeing a wagon wheel in the sky.
Well, I probably would have called out Wagon Wheel in the Sky pictures for sure.
So, you know, I don't remember what you, the first thing you were talking about, and I definitely don't remember seeing Wagon Wheel in the Sky pictures.
So all I can say is I guess you're going to have to try it one more time.
Well, I met a fellow that 30 days prior to the seminar with terminal cancer in a wheelchair, and the doctors were checking him out, and I spoke to him, shook his hand, and talked to him.
Well, I'll tell you, that's why I had him on, because I don't rule out the fact that people can heal other people.
I believe that there are people who can heal.
I don't exactly know what it is, where the power comes from, or anything else.
And a lot of them are not necessarily at all religious people.
They just seem to have the power to heal.
Their hands will heat up.
The person being healed will feel the heat.
They'll actually feel the healing take place.
It does seem to be true.
And he is one of the ones that seems to be real.
So I don't know what to tell you.
unidentified
Well, he's also showing other people how to do this, and it's remarkable because the people that were involved in the seminar, I've been in contact with them, and they're starting to get results, too.
All right, as many of you know, I am a football fan.
I like the NFL, and I like the XFL.
And I think I'll make my request for the NFL first.
Number one, I think the Raiders deserve a new stadium.
I wanted to say that.
Number two, I wanted to say that I need a new Raiders cheerleaders calendar.
Last year, the Raiders cheerleaders signed a calendar for me and sent it to me.
And my year has run out, and I need a new one.
God, they've got great-looking cheerleaders.
Plus, I love the Raiders.
So if anybody out there has control of cheerleader calendars, I really want one of those.
Really want one for this year.
Having said that, I'll probably now erase the possibility of my getting one.
I'm a fan of football, and that includes the XFL.
And I think the XFL, I just wanted to say this, is getting a really rotten.
And they're getting it from the sports media, they're either being ignored or attacked by the sports media.
Bob Costas on HBO the other day just really tore into Vince McMahon.
I thought really unfairly.
I'll tell you, I bought season tickets to the Outlaws here in Las Vegas, and I go to their games, and that's how I got the cheerleader picture.
And they're playing good football.
They are playing their little hearts out.
And aside from the flash that the XFL is putting on it, when you get right down to the game, it's good football.
And I think that the XFL is being treated unfairly by the whole reporting sport.
You don't even see CNN doing, they don't even give the game scores.
I mean, they're really being ignored.
Now, some of it may be their own doing.
They came out pretty hard against the NFL when they opened up.
I've noticed they've lightened up on that.
It's a good thing.
They don't need a war.
Football is good.
And if the XFL succeeds, it is not going to hurt the NFL.
It's just going to mean that football fans have more football to watch.
And I say again, these guys are playing their hearts out.
They're really playing good football, and it's getting better all the time.
So I hope the public gives it another chance.
Some sports writer back in Ohio somewhere, I can't remember where it was, wrote this article saying he knew that the XFL was going to fail when Art Bell said he liked it.
Which I thought, how can you get a cheaper shot than that?
How can you possibly get a cheaper shot than that?
Anyway, for what it's worth, these guys are playing good football.
So if you haven't been back for a while, go back and check out the XFL again.
It's good, pure football with a few changes that, by the way, I think the NFL might want to consider.
Until I met my future wife, to be, and her mother made lima beans, and I expected the same horrible thing, and I found something that was totally different.
The best thing I can say about them is that they didn't even taste like lima beans.
Well, I was walking down the road at about one in the morning, and now there's a bunch of condos and stuff built there, but it used to be a big pasture.
And I'm walking down the road there about between midnight and one in the morning, and a couple of glowing red eyes in the middle of this pasture.
I've been probably listening for a few years, and this is probably the first time I've ever called, only because when he mentioned that, my brother had mentioned to me something.
I'm a very scientific person, a metallurgist from Wright State University, and I'm pretty tactile, pretty scientific.
And my brother had mentioned that there's a campground not too far from Dayton.
I think it's southeast.
I'm not sure.
It's called Fort Ancient.
Or Camp Kern, actually.
And it's near an old Indian burial because that's where the Miami's Berg Indians, the Miami's, the Berg, the Mound Builders, are all in that area.
But the only reason I wanted to call is because he had mentioned that he had seen something late into the night very similar about that.
And I realized that you've got Wright Pat Air Force Base right there, Project Blue Book, all the things from the 70s, and that's where a lot of experimental airplanes are probably being used.
I used to work on the base as a citizen, so I never would be able to get into any of those neathl areas.
But I wouldn't doubt it if it was something military, especially with Wright Pat Air Force Base just being right there near Dayton, Ohio.
From Reuters News, a Ghanaian man was shot to death by a fellow villager while testing a magic spell designed to make him bullet-proof, according to the official Ghana news agency.
Aurigba Abhima, 23, and around 15 other men from Lambu Village, northeast of Ghana, had asked a Juju man or witch doctor, if you will, to make them invisible to bullets.
After smearing his body with a concoction of herbs every day for two solid weeks, our nomination for no doubt he's going to be a nominee for a Darwin Award, volunteered to be shot to check and see if the spell had worked.
Well, years ago, when radar wasn't quite as good as it is today, we used to have a few reports, you know, when we were solid IFR of what we have contributed to Phantom targets.
ATC may say, well, do you see anything off your left wing?
You know, maybe three miles or something.
And we wouldn't.
But of course, it was IFR, so you couldn't see three miles.
And if it was there, we wouldn't see it.
But back in those days, the older radars, sometimes you would get a phantom target beside you.
And you put that many years and that much time in the sky, you're going to see a few things from time to time anyway that you'll never really quite be able to identify.
But nothing that was ever alarming or alerting.
And with the sophisticated equipment that we had on the 767, you know, TCAS, things of that nature that would register other airplanes along your path.
Yeah, so you know, TCAS and other devices of that nature, it likes digital responses more than it does just core targets.
So anyhow, to try to really nail something down with the new equipment versus the oil equipment and considering the technology change, right now I would have to give a little bit more thought as to whether I really could think back and say I saw anything that was very disturbing.
But what I did see is how we're all concerned about the energy crunch.
Back in the 70s I used to fly the New York route for, oh, a year or two or three regular.
And when we had what I call the phony fuel crunch where there was supposed to be no more fuel in the world.
So either, you know, either on the one hand, he really was giving us information he knew about and was just able to give it either that or he rehearsed like crazy.