Art Bell interviews Stan Deyo, a former U.S. Air Force Academy cadet and computer programmer, who fled to Australia after FBI conflicts tied to Nixon-era surveillance of energy tech—including plasma propulsion and toroidal anti-gravity systems tested under Antarctica’s ice since the 1950s. Deyo claims a trans-governmental group (U.S., UK, Canada, Australia, Germany) used "alien" symbolism to advance global governance, now possibly controlled by non-human entities. He links solar disturbances—like March 5th and September 6th geomagnetic exposure—to coming upheavals, warns of U.S.-targeted destruction, and cites Philadelphia Experiment experiments that nearly breached parallel universes. Concludes with Deyo’s chilling prediction: rising anti-Semitism could spark genocide, forcing Jewish migration to Israel while solar cycles hint at deeper cosmic shifts. [Automatically generated summary]
From the high desert and the great American Southwest, I bid you all good evening or good morning as the case may be across all these many time zones stretching from the Hawaiian and the Asian Islands out west eastward to the Caribbean, the U.S. Virgin Islands, south into South America, north all the way to Santa Cundre at the pole, and worldwide on the internet.
Thank Youbroadcast.com and, of course, Intel that together provide this amazing new thing called streaming video or, if you will, streaming video, our affectionate name for it almost TV.
Here's the deal, you go to my website Www.artbell.com.
You download something called the G2 player it's free and then you come back to my website and click on the streaming video and there I'll be a talking head doing my talk show.
You'll be able to actually see me in the studio at about with about three different camera shots and, of course, hear the show as well.
Now the other thing Broadcast.com is doing is archiving all the shows so that you can actually go during the day if the boss isn't looking, and you can watch and listen to a show during the day as well.
Pretty cutesy, huh.
All right, welcoming a new affiliate.
Tonight it would be K R W radio, k r w b a m.
They're 1410 on the dial and they're in Roseau Minnesota.
It's actually spelled R-o-s-e-a-u, but it's Roseau Minnesota and I hope i'm getting.
I hope i'm close to having that correct.
Thank you, Brian Douglas.
Who's the PD there?
Glad to have you with us.
Well, I hear that my friend Curtis Liwa in New York City is at it again and now he calls me Rama.
He's been calling me Rama, which is all right.
Now Curtis is the only one allowed to call me Rama.
I am to Curtis Rama, and of course he does my bidding, as i've told you previously.
So he is the only one since his visit out here that he tells everybody in New York about he's been uh indeed, a devotee, doing all of my bidding.
And so, yes, only to you, Curtis, may I be addressed as Rama.
Okay, what's going on in the war?
Yugoslav authorities have sealed off.
Now this is a reversal, because of course they were virtually driving ethnic Albanians out of Koso, and now they have reversed course in midstream and they are driving everybody back into Kosovo who was leaving.
They've actually closed the main border crossings, preventing Albanians from leaving as um as they were.
As a matter of fact, it was getting near the half million mark.
But now they've reversed course.
They have also called for a ceasefire, a unilateral ceasefire.
In other words, they are holding their soldiers in the barracks, But NATO says, uh-uh, no ceasefire.
They will, I guess, have a ceasefire long enough to send in the Cypriots who are going to try and free three U.S. servicemen, but after that, the bombing will resume and maybe even intensify.
Into what?
I'm not exactly sure.
By the way, next hour, we're going to talk to Broughton Coburn.
We are going to do that in Nepal.
He's in Kathmandu, Nepal, and I'm going to do it.
I have been fascinated with Mount Everest.
It's the highest point in the world, you know.
There is nothing, I would never, in my wildest dreams, would I ever consider climbing a mountain.
I am not your basic mountain climber.
In fact, I'm not even good on phone poles, as years of back problem would indicate.
So I would, but I am fascinated by mountain climbing and by people who would be crazy enough, driven enough.
I don't know what the right word is.
They're compelled.
It is insufficient to say, you say to somebody, why do you want to climb the mountain?
Well, because it's there, right?
It's the old saying.
There's got to be more to it.
And there certainly is more to the mountain.
So I am going to again stretch my company's phone card to the limit and do an interview on the other side of the world.
By the way, did you know that Nepal is about the only place where when it's on the hour here, I think if it's, we'll have to ask, but I believe if it's 10 o'clock here, in Nepal, it would be 11.30.
It's the only time zone that actually is not on the hour.
I guess in the world somewhere, they had to have one, and it's in Nepal.
Pretty weird, huh?
Somebody told me that, and I didn't believe it.
I said they were full of, you know, what.
And then they cranked out something with all the time zones on the world, you know, on a world map.
And sure enough, there is one time zone that has, I forget, it's either half an hour or 45 minutes.
It's really weird.
Well, watching and listening to Russia these days, the voice of Russia World Service, for example, on 15520, the 19-meter band, beginning at about 0100 Zulu, they are taking, the Russians are beginning to take a very hard line on what's going on.
According to the voice of Russia, Serb military and police forces were confined to barracks as part of the unilateral ceasefire.
Other things included the request that the expatriate Kosovar civilians return to their homes and an offer of assistance to Albania in the repatriation process.
According to VOR, when the unilateral ceasefire was announced, a 16-plane element took off from Aviano Air Base in Italy on a bombing mission.
The ceasefire announcement was greeted reportedly with an hour-way or no-way response.
Bearing in mind, there is a certain amount of blatant propaganda.
Russia is undoubtedly concerned that NATO will not stick to attacking one or another member of the CIS.
And they could be right.
Serbia is arguably one of the most historically persecuted communities on the planet, but is without doubt the most unforgiving.
So, a moral adversary has been converted overnight virtually into a blood enemy.
How smart was that?
So there you have it.
And by the way, Karen Anderson, who unfortunately got caught in the technical troubles of last night, will be here Monday.
She is an incredibly bright, articulate young lady who knows a whole lot about Y2K.
Let me tell you a little story.
I got a very good quality Y2K check program today.
And this program looked at every file in, you know, I have several computers, and I tentatively tried it on one computer.
One computer, folks.
And it's a high-class, whoop-de-doo, Y2K, fix-all-your-bugs kind of program.
And you can do two operations.
In Operation One, it goes through and it checks all your files.
Well, I had about actually I've got the copy somewhere.
I don't know.
Thousands of files.
And it went through and it found 25 Y2K-related bugs in my computer.
So I then went ahead and did step two.
This time I had to go through and fix each one of the 25 problems, which it did.
But that's just to give you some idea of a fellow who owns a fairly modern computer with average better software.
You know, I've got pretty good software.
And I ran the program that I considered to be legit, and it found 25 and corrected 25 Y2K-related problems.
Pretty interesting, huh?
So I don't know.
I don't know what's going to happen when the date actually turns.
What am I hearing about Japan and others?
April 1st was going to be some sort of date.
And so far, the answer is I'm hearing nothing.
What about you?
I do hear of a lot of people, of course, with Y2K problems of one sort or another, of the sort I just described to you.
Who out there is messing around with the price of gasoline?
Me.
Now, we all know that every summer, the oil companies take advantage of us further, more than usual, by raising the price of gasoline because they know more people drive around in the summer, and so they charge more.
But somebody's really screwing with it this time.
And I'm sure you've noticed, price of gas is skyrocketing.
Why?
A couple of refinery fires up in the Bay Area.
I know about that, but I mean, my, my, my, it's really going up.
Also, I've got a letter from Jason here, and I'm only going to read a small part of it because I want to confirm whether it is true or not.
Jason from Orange County, California says, hey, Art.
Are you aware that rationing of ammunition has begun?
I went to the local gun store and was told by the owner that all his vendors that supply him now with ammo, particularly rifle ammunition, are limiting him to more than three, no more than, this is now a dealer, folks, no more than 3,000 rounds per week total.
So I have no way of confirming this except to make some calls myself, which I will tomorrow, and imploring any of you with information on the subject to tell me whether or not you know whether it is true.
The price of gasoline in California, well, Jason says he spent $1.60, that's $1.60 a gallon for medium grade, and now paying almost $2 a gallon for premium.
Now, again, I understand that what occurs around here in the summer, you know, I mean, the oil companies have always done this, but what the hell is going on out there?
That's like getting a bunch of speeding tickets and having them suspend your license, not for a month or a year, but for the rest of your natural life.
Well, I was just wondering, could it be possible that they would the Serbs spread some kind of a virus or something to the refugees, knowing that the rest of the world would take them in?
And I'm in the middle of a 400-acre complex that it's a chemical treatment plant.
And we have to go out and check the site on various times of the night just to make sure everything, you know, there's nobody coming in the gates and whatnot.
And as a matter of fact, their subways are spotlessly clean.
You don't even find any Japanese graffiti on subways in Japan.
So what would Curtis be doing over there?
Hmm, bears some investigation.
International Line, you're on the air.
Good morning.
Hi, Art.
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I wanted to comment on something you mentioned on a previous show about an explosion looking an awful lot that occurred in Serbia that looked an awful lot like nuclear.
I'll tell you, I got so much email on that with people agreeing with me.
They too saw it.
Did you see it?
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No, but I heard something.
I remember reading about something a long time ago about the American government taking an interest in what's called micronuclear explosion, like trying to create the same thing, but on a much smaller scale, like that would substitute for powerful munitions for aircraft use.
Well, there's fewer fuel-air explosives, and that's nearly nuclear, but anything that would have radiation, in other words, that would be a chain reaction, would be easily detectable.
And so this obviously was not nuclear, but I'm telling you right now, it looked nuclear.
And if CNN had shown me that film, that strip, and they'd said this was a nuclear detonation, I would have bought it hook, line, and sinker.
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It must bear some kind of resemblance to some the design of a nuclear weapon in some way, maybe a shape charge or something, especially designed to produce that intensity or something.
There was also talk about creating weapons that would create the EMP pulse for damaging electronics as well.
How do you make an EMP pulse without a nuclear detonation?
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Oh, they must have had some kind of design feature that would create some kind of resonance at a certain range of frequencies that would just give a huge pulse.
It's like a sudden burst from a transmitter or something.
Well, here's what I would ask, and I really do mean this sincerely.
How now is this supposed to end?
In other words, we bomb, And then we bomb until he finally, Molsvich, finally says, okay, troops can come in and enforce the peace.
So that means we put troops in on the ground from now until doomsday, roughly.
Is that about it?
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I look at it as if, you know, if we're the ones leading this situation or the NATO is leading this situation, all the countries of NATO should be responsible for the refugees.
But what I mean is, then we're going to have to be there forever holding everybody apart, putting our service people in harm's way, trying to keep the peace.
And they're going to be there forever.
Just like they're going to be there forever in Bosnia.
And pretty soon we're not going to have enough troops to keep every place forever.
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It's a terrible, it's an unfortunate incident.
I just think it's a real mixed-up situation, and it's exploiting something that we shouldn't be exploiting.
Pretty bright lady decided to have a forum, and they had all kinds of things there, how to independently pump water out of your well, how to grow things inside at a great rate, you know, some sort of modified hydroponics.
They had people there with a solution to just about every problem you might encounter if.
You're not supposed to do that, you know, but I it came out before I could stop you.
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Well, all right.
I'm sorry.
I says stay away from commercial endorsements.
But about the EMP, you know, the night the bombing started, the first thing we did was we flew an Aurora over Belgrade and just zapped them with an EMP.
The police right now actually have something that almost works, will stop your car in its tracks with an EMP.
I know about that, but we were talking about such a scale here that it's hard to believe that they, what kind of power source could drive something that big?
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A satellite.
And this is a directed satellite through the not AWACS but through the Aurora.
And Aurora is hovering around, you know, just loitering, being silent and, of course, unobserved.
And Aurora gets the pickup from the satellite and downloads it into Belgrade or whatever the target is.
By the way, Mr. Analyst, turn your radio off, please.
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Oh, well, yes.
I'm working my way over there, Art.
But when you subscribe to the range of magazines that I subscribe to, including Soldier of Fortune, in fact, I'd love to hear you with Robert K. Brown.
If you could interview the editor of Soldier of Fortune magazine.
Yeah, Robert K. Brown will be a fabulous guest for you if you can get him to stay up that late into the night.
You know, soldiers rise early and bed down pretty early.
And Robert K. Brown, former colonel, Colonel retired, he would be a good interview for you because he can tell you things that are happening before they happen.
All right, we were just in Egypt for an hour, kind of previewing what you're going to be seeing tomorrow night on Fox Live.
Pretty gutsy show, actually, after what happened to Geraldo.
They're going to be opening a number of very sacred places in Egypt live on Fox television to our special tonight, most time zones now, except here in the West.
That should really be something.
In a moment, we're going to Australia, and we're going to talk with Stan Deo.
Those of you who know Stan, actually, you know what?
It's been so long since we've had Stan on.
I think we're going to have to sort of go over his background a little bit, tell you who Stan Deo is.
Joining us tonight for the first time, new affiliates, WTBG-FM in Brownsville, Texas.
Oh, I know Brownsville.
I spent a lot of time in Texas, some courtesy of the Air Force, and I know Brownsville.
95.3 on the FM dial there.
Big five kilowatts.
Generally, a music station, but they'll be taking coast overnights anyway.
Smart move.
WNWS-FM in Jackson, Tennessee.
They're 101.5 megahertz.
Hey, you know, that's getting to be quite the thing, isn't it?
There's two FM stations joining the network, and I have a feeling that's kind of the way it's going right now.
FM is beginning to open its eyes and realize that ratings, that there's a lot of good ratings in talk, and there's kind of a transition underway with Talk Radio.
Have you noticed that?
I mean, look at this.
I've got three affiliates, two of them FM.
Brownsville, Tennessee.
Did I say I said Texas?
Brownsville, Tennessee.
I'm sorry, TN is Tennessee.
But that was Texas.
I know Brownsville, Texas.
I don't know Brownsville, Tennessee.
And Jackson, Tennessee.
So two in Tennessee and WGSV AM in Guntersville, Alabama.
Welcome.
And also, by the way, KJFK, our affiliate down in Austin, Texas, has begun to pick up refeeds at 10 o'clock Texas time.
That's absolutely excellent.
We are now officially at 428 affiliates and going fast.
Many more in the works.
And it will be made public soon.
It will be the largest.
I'll let you know when the moment arrives, but officially, at some point soon, we will be the largest overnight radio program in America's history.
That should be rather interesting.
We are either past that point or approaching that point, depending on whose point of view you take right now.
So we are at a very interesting juncture in the program.
At any rate, coming up from Australia in a moment, it used to be Perth, but he's got a new home now.
Standale.
So stay right where you are, because you really are in for a ride.
Once again, WTBGFM, Brownsville, Tennessee, not Texas.
Welcome, 95.3 on the dial.
A music station and extending the hand of welcome to talk now.
WNWS-FM in Jackson, Tennessee, and WGSVAM in Guntersville, Alabama.
And then, of course, our friends, KJFK.
As you know, the program, and it seems to have been a very wise move.
A lot of people are jumping on it.
The program is pre-fed now every night beginning at 6 o'clock Pacific time for those stations that would like to take it.
And of course, the reason I think it's working so well is that last night's show, or Friday show in this case, comes up and meets Monday's show, and it sort of all joins together, and those who didn't get to stay up late get to hear the show.
So we do pre-feed now, and if you would like your station to be part of that, to be able to hear the show a little bit earlier every night, just give your affiliate a call because we do provide that service.
Hackers have seized control of one of Britain's military communication satellites and have issued blackmail threats.
This was printed in the Sunday Business newspaper.
The newspaper quoting security sources said, the intruders, check this out, altered the course of one of Britain's four satellites that are used by defense planners and military forces around the world.
The sources said the satellite's course was changed just over two weeks ago.
Oh my, haven't we been keeping quiet about this?
The hackers then issued a blackmail threat demanding money to stop interfering with the satellite.
One military intelligence source said this is a nightmare scenario.
They say if Britain were to come under nuclear attack, an aggressor would first interfere with military communication systems.
Well, gee, if a few little hackers can get hold of your satellite, move it in its position in space and hold it hostage, guys, what do you suppose the Russians can do?
Or should we be hiring these little guys to do this to the Russians?
Anyway, they're regarding this as very, very serious.
Quote, this is not just a case of computer nerds mucking about.
This is very serious, and the blackmail threat has made it even more serious.
Police say they would not comment, as the investigation was simply too sensitive to talk about.
A Ministry of Defense spokesman made no comment whatsoever.
So basically, the headline is, hackers have got a British satellite.
We now have as many as six dead from strep in the Chicago area.
Have you been hearing about that?
As many as six have died.
Another seven have been sickened by strep bacteria in the Chicago area in recent months.
And they're just announcing it now.
Three different strains of that bacteria are to blame, leading health officials to play down the possibility the cases might be linked.
Now, wait a minute here.
We've got six dead and seven sickened, and they're saying that the cases are not linked and they're all in Chicago.
Victims include an 18-month-old boy, a man in his 40s, who died of necrotizing fascitis, I believe it is.
I'll never pronounce that right.
Sometimes called the flesh-eating bacteria, and a 90-year-old man who died of toxic shock syndrome.
But they're saying that they're not connected, and what they are saying is that these clusters, though unusual, do occur.
Now, that's what they always say.
If you want to believe that, go right ahead.
That's too much of a coincidence for me.
Americans should prepare for the year 2000 computer bug like they would a hurricane.
Now, is that from Art Bell?
No, it is not.
That's from Reuters News, and it's from the U.S. Senate.
That's right.
Let me read you the Reuters story as is.
Americans should prepare for the year 2000 computer bug like they would a hurricane by stocking up on canned food and bottled water in case vital services are cut off.
Senators leading a congressional study of that problem said on Sunday.
Matter of fact, they said it on, I believe, on Meet the Press.
They went on, global trade could also be disrupted because major U.S. trading partners, including Japan and oil producers Venezuela and Saudi Arabia, may not be able to address the computer glitch in time.
That was Utah Republican Senator Robert Bennett and Connecticut Democratic Senator Christopher Dodd.
Bennett said, quote, the problem is real.
This will not be the end of the world as we know it, he said, but we've got to stay on top of it.
Dodd, Senator Dodd, told NBC's Meet the Press, quote, it's not unwise for people to do a little stockpiling, end quote.
You know, bottled water, canned goods, other essentials.
So this time, no matter what you may hear, though everybody's trying to say, well, Art Bell's scaring the hell out of everybody, I'm not the only one saying that a little preparation might be in order, and that's all I've ever said, that a little preparation might be in order.
And now, I guess you can come to your own conclusions, but when frontline senators say this kind of thing, when they begin to talk about stockpiling, when was the last time you heard any U.S. senator say that we should be stockpiling for any reason whatsoever?
Gary North is not the only one saying it, though we certainly are coming under fire for panic mongering and all the rest of it.
Now we've got the U.S. Senate saying it, and I don't think anybody knows for sure what the hell is going to happen come the year 2000.
But everybody is saying, basically, the same thing.
That is everybody who has looked into this a little bit, and that is some prudent preparations would be in order.
And I'm going to keep saying it.
Even though on certain programs, I'm sure I'm getting clobbered, as usual, because I've been on this for a very long time now.
It is good, though, to see the U.S. Senate beginning to make statements that will alert the American people.
Incidentally, they did a test on a new plant that failed, failed on February 8th, 1999, while performing testing for a Y2K remediation modification to the Unit 2 Rod Worth Minimizer System.
This is in Pennsylvania.
Peach Bottom Unit 2 nuclear reactor power plant experienced a listen, a lockup of both the primary and backup plant monitoring systems, computers.
As a result, operators also lost the following PMS-supported systems for about seven hours.
This, folks, is a nuclear power plant.
They knew the PMS computers, PMS, huh?
I won't say anything about that.
We're not Y2K compliant.
But the engineers believed it would not impact the testing.
Well, guess what?
Surprise.
All right.
I had to get all of that out.
All of that's pretty important stuff.
Let's go down now to Australia and Stan Deo.
Stan, you're not in Perth, Australia anymore, and I forget where you are now.
Just on the subject of radio programs and affiliates joining, we're working down here at the moment to get you on air down here across Australia.
We've been dealing with nine radio stations here, country stations, who want to take your show and delay it about eight hours and put people on down here to ask you questions for the next show, you know, the day after.
We're certainly getting down to the negotiating stages now.
Now, as far as my background, I was born in the United States in Texas in Clifton, Texas, near Valley Mills.
And I went, moved to Dallas, lived there most of my life, and then went to a couple of years at the United States Air Force Academy in Colorado.
I left the Air Force, retired from Air Force in 1968.
I went back to Dallas, trained at IBM to program computers.
I guess, in fact, I know for sure I'm responsible for part of the Y2K bug problems in the insurance industry because that's where I programmed.
But to be quite honest, in those days, no one ever thought about the fact that we would have to go all the way to 1999 with these programs.
We thought sure they'd be thrown away and replaced by then.
I was hired, well, kind of contracted, I suppose, is a word by the FBI for a short period in Dallas to spy on some corporations that were my clients in the computer industry.
Well, yeah, I guess I think I've mentioned this before.
It's probably one of my books or something.
But what happened was that my family had been in a kind of patriot awareness movements and published a lot of books for folks to try to wake up Americans to the fact that we were going to have problems in our government if we didn't watch who was taking over the government.
And we were probably the major force trying to wake up the American people to the Illuminati, you know, the conspiracy thing.
And as a result, well, when I was at the Academy, I had a top secret security clearance.
And when I came out, the FBI found that I was working for a corporation that was dealing in the Middle East and in Texas.
And in fact, many of the states in the United States.
And there were things going on there.
This was during the Nixon administration, that were not exactly kosher.
And I was visited one day in my office here by two FBI agents from Dallas.
And, you know, they showed me their ID, shut the door, and said, okay, look, we've checked on your security levels and your family and whatever.
And we'd like to ask you a favor because you're sitting here in an office where we can't get anybody right now, you know, without being too obvious.
Well, I'm sure you can't give specifics, but it's interesting that you would listen to their pitch and then instead of going for the money, go for information instead.
Well, as I recall, when President Clinton took office and some other presidents, I think the first two questions they had were, who shot Kennedy and are flying saucers real?
Now, the presidents may not have received that information.
I guess you got more than some of our presidents got.
Hold on, Stan.
We'll be right back to you.
A short first section.
I can't get by that.
Boy, he made a deal with the FBI.
Made a deal with the FBI.
To find out about propulsion systems and what's really going on out there, in a moment, we'll ask what he found out.
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This is Premier Networks.
That was Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM on this Somewhere in Time.
The government could be testing chemicals on us and using us as lab rats.
Could it be related to the contrails?
I don't know.
But I'm telling you right now, I think that something strange is going on here.
I have a lot of friends, and a couple of them have very, very serious cases of pneumonia right now.
And they're not doing very well with it.
They're on antibiotics, and they're not exactly clearing it up very quickly.
And we're hearing about all kinds of respiratory problems and all of these strange lines they're setting up to do surveys and maybe offer free treatment.
And what the hell is going on?
Anyway, I'm going to go get my globe right now while you listen to the following, and Stan Dale will be right back.
I went and I got my globe, Stan, and it looks to me like Australia is divided up into Victoria, New South Wales, Queensland, the Northern Territories, and Western Australia, where...
And certainly we've had the third year of drought here for the area we're in.
And we get the odd sprinkle.
Certainly, it's been a dry summer even for Ballarat, which we chose for the rainfall.
The other places around the country are really having problems, either with extreme flooding on the northeast coast or drought like over in Perth where their water storage is down to around 30% or lower.
And especially when they sit down and move their coat back, and you can see the holster and the weapon stuff and sit down and say, Mr. Deo, blah, blah, blah.
I had another episode with the Australian equivalent of the FBI kind of sort of here.
We'll tell you about that in a minute.
It just happened last week.
All right.
When you were talking about the deal with the FBI there, Holly reminded me that I hadn't prefaced that with the deal at the Academy where I was in the mind control or the programming experiments.
Because somehow or another, I think all that was linked together, you know, even with the FBI stuff later.
Well, at the Academy, at least myself, I don't know how many others they were doing it to, we would be taking off one class I had, there was probably about 60 of us into a little theaterette, and they would have us look at a screen, a projection screen, and then let the lights go down low and tell us that when they told us to open our eyes, you close them until they told us to open them.
And when we open our eyes to focus on this black dot up on that screen, and for us not to blink at all until they tell us.
And then we'd do that, and there'd be a pause, and they'd say, all right, open your eyes, focus on the dot, hold them.
I need to hear this kind of sound up behind you as this kind of chrome-plated gizmo would fire images onto this screen so fast that all we could see was like all kind of smooth clouds of static, you know, of noise.
I mean, and what it was is several hundred pages of data being programmed into our minds in a few seconds.
The problem was, as we learned later, that although it goes into your brain and is stored, you have not assimilated it into your knowledge base, and that has to happen when you sleep over the next few nights or weeks or whatever.
I had to wait until I came to Australia, and I met with the head of the aeronautical research labs here as part of my work down here, and they explained to me what had happened, was that it was part of experiments that the government was doing in the States to tune minds to do, I think, what Dames and some of the other guys are talking about, to remote view other scientists and things like that to see what they're building, what kind of equipment and stuff.
And so they trained our minds, you know, to, like, in other words, on command, we could tune our minds to listen in and see what everybody else is doing on a particular subject or field or something like that.
Well, the material that I remember, well, when I say I remember, I don't remember it coming across the screen, but in the classroom, on the first test we had, they shot this stuff across, and then the instructor got up and said, okay, now does anybody remember what we just looked at?
And of course, we all laughed, which is, you know, in military, you don't really laugh at your commanding officer or whoever there, but we did.
And he says, no, gentlemen, quiet.
He says, now I'm going to give you some clues and see if you remember anything.
And he'd say something like, you know, red, and nobody said anything.
And, okay, scarf, and nobody said anything.
And then street posts or lamppost.
And with that, stretch up behind me, the tall, skinny guy, he jumped up and he said, sir, sir, I see it.
And he read, and then the instructor flashed up on the screen the page he just read about this girl standing next to a lamppost in this dark city and had a scarf on and waited for a guy or something.
It was just a piece of fiction, right?
But he had photographic memory just that quick.
And he said, now you all have this in your minds.
This is locked in there.
And sometimes we'd be hypnotized.
I can remember going into the room and then at the end saying, yes, sir, good night, sir, and walk out, you know, after having been programmed.
There were people, there were officers there that were against that, and one of them did try his best to help me not get caught up in the whole program, I think, of one of my math teachers.
But bad stuff.
Bad stuff.
Anyway, it was an experiment, and I gained a lot of knowledge of projects, I'm reasonably certain, including the flying saucer stuff, that I would not have otherwise had.
I saw those things floating in the air, like the color movies and stuff on demand, when I got down to Australia working, you know, after I left the FBI thing, whatever, working for the people that recruited me in Dallas, Dr. Edward Teller's people, on circular winged aircraft, flying saucers, developing them.
And, you know, the only reason I was able to do that was because I saw the things working in 3D expandable models like a CAD CAM system that used about 5.30 in the morning when I was just waking up.
I'd have a movie theater there in my mind watching it.
Well, a little bit of technology, a little bit of information on what was going on in the state politically, which would help me to do my job because I know what they were after more.
Hoover, as you know, was a little bit of a strange fellow at the time, but he had very strict rules inside the Bureau.
And he certainly ran a tight ship in that respect.
Anyway, he codenamed the project Operation Illuminati to find out more about it.
And they explained a few things to me that I didn't know about how mafia money and various other kinds of money were being laundered through this particular group of companies I was working for.
And weapons purchases were being sent to the Middle East.
And this is a long time before the Middle East was a big deal for most folks.
They didn't care.
And we were looking at arm shipments being done under the nose of various export rules in the United States illegally and large things like aircraft and munitions that were quite serious.
And, you know, out of past information, all that kind of stuff.
What happened was there was a war going on inside the FBI, the pro-Hooverites, anti-Hooverites, or the, well, I guess the pro-Nixonites, the anti-Nixonites, whatever, how you want to say it.
But I knew anyway before I left because the FBI guys told me that their side, which is Hoover's side, was losing and that Nixon would either have him replaced or he would die very shortly, which he did within a year.
But not that I'm pointing a finger at Nixon or anybody else.
I'm just telling you that there was that kind of a war going on inside the agency itself, the Bureau.
And the government, what really got me in trouble and did nearly get me aced was a helicopter landed on our parking lot one day at the company there in Dallas, and it was a big parking lot, and a bunch of men came running out in suits and were bustled into an office next to me.
And it took me a couple days to figure out who they were.
But I did find out by kind of putting my purposes at risk by exposing myself that they were men from Nixon's office, Lurray Schopner, who was the predecessor to Haldeman, and the Washington Regional Director for the FBI under Hoover, who had not checked into the Dallas regional area, he just sneaked in.
But I didn't know this.
I just got names of people and turned it over.
And my agent wasn't in the usual contact place, so I rang in on the FBI phone from another phone, a pay phone, and said, look, I have a message which is very important for my contact.
And they said, well, give it to us and we'll pass it on.
I said, well, okay, fine.
And I did.
And my agent later contacted me in the usual manner and said, you know, you silly boy.
And he did a little bit more terse terms than that.
But he said, I told you not to use those lines of communication.
He says, do you realize what you've done?
And I said, no, I just gave you what you wanted to know, the names of those guys from the White House.
And he says, yeah, well, here's what you've done.
You've put us all at risk because, you know, we were monitoring something that was a war inside the FBI.
And anyway, he said, I don't know what's going to happen now.
But he said, remember I told you that you might be at risk?
He says, well, you're at risk now.
Watch your back.
And so within a few weeks of that, they managed to make some plans for me to exit and go to Australia if I would like to go there.
Right around the same time, Dr. Teller's people came, sent a man to meet me at that same company, strangely enough, coincidentally.
And he makes my acquaintance at a table down in the canteen, and he tells me, look, I have a friend that wants to talk to you, Dr. Maxville.
And I didn't go the first time.
Second time I did, because things were getting a bit tense, and I thought, well, I might as well die here somewhere else, but I'll go see what they want.
And that's another story of the meeting.
But I did meet with Dr. Keller there at his X-ray radiation research place in Dallas.
And he explained about the South Pole under ICE, the flying saucer base that we had there, that he and Teller had overseen something like 50, some odd projects since the mid-50s.
And we had two or three different types of propulsion systems, and I was going to make a great addition to their team.
And, you know, everybody just assumed I was going to Australia, FBI and these guys.
And I don't know whether they were talking or not, but when you get two knocks on the head like that, you think, well, time to get out of Dodge, you know.
So I packed up to family, and I was sent tickets.
Everything was paid by the Australian government, whatever.
I was part of Maxville's boys, so that was all arranged ahead of time.
And I bolted about a week ahead of time for my last meetings with everybody and just took my family for a Sunday drive and came home and landed in Sydney and then talked to a commercial pilot there who was taking another flight down and said, look, can we jump onto your ship and keep on going?
And he said, fine.
And I was just trying to disappear for a while, which we did.
Okay, well, you had to have been in some degree of rather immediate fear for your safety or that of your family to have done something like that, Stan.
Myrlansky alluded to the fact many times that he had done actually a great deal for his country.
Now, in that, he meant that he did some gun running.
He did a lot of things that helped our country.
And he did those things in concert with the FBI or the CIA, and that there's been a long-running deal, or had been, between the Mafioso and our three-letter agencies.
I'm not in the agency now or even working for them anyway, so I couldn't tell you, but I doubt that it would have stopped just because the government's changed, because that was somewhat of a trans-government institution.
And yet, so many people that I have on this program seem to indicate that's the case.
And if that's the case, that's pretty sad, huh?
Anyway, Stan will be right back.
We're going to try to touch on a few other things and then get the lines open for you if we can, because there's a lot to talk about.
Back to Stan in Australia, way down south, way, way down south.
So we have you now in Australia.
I guess running to Australia is a fair comment.
Running away to Australia, getting whisked away to Australia, a little ahead of what even they were going to send you for reasons of personal security.
At that point, Stan, what would you say it was that you knew that I don't know how detailed you can get in what you're going to tell us that had you in such jeopardy?
Well, this was before Watergate, I think about a year before Watergate started, something like that.
And part of the information I had was certainly not putting Nixon's administration in a good light if it came to the open at that time.
In retrospect, historical view, it might not have been so bad, but at that time, that information and what was going on with the agency and with the mafia and various other things might have led Crayo back to the Kennedy assassination as well.
So for that, I was probably in trouble.
And my FBI agents told me that, you know, one of them said, I wish I could go with you because as soon as Hoover goes, there's going to be a big house cleaning here in the Bureau.
And he said, once you get down there, you're on your own.
I'm not going to be able to help you anymore.
You're on your own.
Goodbye, God bless.
You know, when Hoover is gone, watch your backside.
A couple years later, anyway, when I was in a public eating place down in Melbourne, and I ran into another American, older, with gray hair, and he was a tourist down there.
And he says, oh, hey, your accent, you're from America, aren't you?
And I said, yes.
I didn't know him from afar.
So open.
He says, yeah, so am I. I'm down here on holidays.
He says, where about you from?
And I said, Dallas, Texas.
He said, no, no.
No, you're not.
You're from Colorado, probably close to Colorado Springs.
I said, no, I'm not.
You're wrong.
And he says, don't tell me I'm wrong.
He said, I work for the FBI.
I kind of must have gone a little bit pale.
And he says, you know, that's my job.
I listen to people's accents and word usage, and I analyze phone calls for terrorist bomb threats, and I can tell them probably down to the the town where these people come from.
I said, ah, yes.
Well, gee, you're wrong in this case.
I said, the only time I was there in Colorado Springs was two years at the Academy, the Air Force Academy.
He says, well, my boy, he says, that is your accent.
It it overrode every other thing you had before that.
And sometimes I guess after that, I wondered, and I never saw the guy again.
He walked off.
He really wasn't after me.
He was just a fluke.
Scared the life out of me.
But anyway, I wondered if the deal at the Academy didn't change my accent with all the programming.
I certainly don't sound like most everybody else in my family anymore.
There were three different main propulsion systems.
I was recruited mainly not because they needed me to develop a new one.
It was because I found out later they didn't want me to go down the street trying to hawk it and sell it to people because it would compromise security on what they already had.
And that was a plasma craft.
Just hot air shot around a saucer-shaped craft up through the top of it and over the wing, guided by magnetic fields of coils inside, and then taken back into the underside of the craft and spun around in a chamber and back up out the outside again.
It sounds fairly simple, but there were a lot of problems with it because to get the air that hot and then to make metals not corrode too quickly with that plasma running over it.
And sometimes it take 20 minutes to wind them up to get them in the air.
That's why you never heard of them too often in the early days shutting off and because the kickstart was a real pain in the neck.
But anyway, that was one that was the original one that I was working on was the breaststroker, which created a vacuum in front of the craft over the entire wing.
So the entire wing surface fucked you forward.
You didn't actually make a wake when you pushed through the air and you could go hypersonic without making sonic booms.
Anyway, that was a propulsion two.
Propulsion 3 was in development and may be already being used by the time they recruited me.
And that was one using toroidal, like doughnut-shaped coils, wrapped in a particular way so that the coils, part of them were at right angles to other parts of the coil in a kind of round doughnut shape.
And these craft were truly electrochromitic, the the first series of anti-gravity or gravity bending craft.
And they accomplished what a lot of people have been looking for by some clever clever rules of physic that were discovered back in the Philadelphia experiment.
And that that that did take place.
It wasn't quite as spectacular as the movie makes it, but the experiment did take place, as far as I understand.
To give you part of the story, another individual that worked in the European branch of this worldwide group that I was working for was assigned in security after World War II in Germany to guard a bunker there where they were doing research and development with these craft.
They did have some German scientists there, but the main part of the information they were getting would come in every few weeks.
Young men slender-built with thin briefcases would come in and leave them blueprints and instructions to develop industry or industrial complexes to make stuff, not to see if it would work, just develop the industry so we can build this.
We know it works already.
So somewhere they were getting blueprints from a fait accomplé somewhere else.
And I have no idea, neither did the security guy, but they did work.
Well, you know well what Colonel Corso had to say.
The implications of what the Colonel had to say were clearly that it was extraterrestrial technology obtained from a crash at Roswell that was then filtered into American industry.
Very carefully weaved into American industry, and you would seem to be suggesting that virtually the same thing was going on.
In other words, people came in with plans to build craft, not to begin experimentation and to develop a technology, but to simply build from a technology which we had no base for, at least no base that we understood.
So would your conjecture be that this technology came from elsewhere?
And what I don't, I haven't been able to kind of answer to myself in a manner that I liked is in 1958, you can see it in the electronics journals in the library in high voltage physics, they were talking openly up until, I think it was May of 1958, in the United States, Japan, and Europe, and England about electrogravitics or anti-gravity.
Okay, but in that month, in that month, after that month, in 1958, there were no more discussions, and there were 100 institutions, universities, corporations, working and openly discussing this.
There was never another paper published in the journals that said, oh, forget it, it was a dead end or whatever, just nothing.
Now, what kind of an organization, I asked myself, could have the power to stop all these countries and universities outside the United States at the same time, the same month?
So then I thought, right, okay, maybe, you know, aliens, maybe super beings, you know, okay.
Then why was I told in 1973, I think it was, in a meeting with my control agents down here in the organization, that someone was moving in on them and they were afraid they were winning.
They never explained who they was.
A bigger group was taking over the group that I was working for that was in charge of this technology.
Well, for years and years and years, Americans, millions and millions of Americans, I'm one of them, have been seeing these totally unconventional craft and ascribing their presence to extraterrestrials for the most part because these craft are doing things that we don't even imagine our technology is anywhere close to.
But according to what you're telling me, not only are we close to it, but we had it damn near when I was born.
In other words, I can understand, I guess, during the Second World War that there was a great need for secrecy.
One might even imagine that in the Cold War years that followed, there was an equally large need for secrecy if we had these kind of things.
But now, the world has changed.
And, Stan, we've been to war.
If we had craft capable of this sort of thing, anti-gravitic technology, that sort of thing, that would allow weapons that would mean that we wouldn't have to send half a million men plus to the Persian Gulf to do a job that could be done by the kind of technology you're talking about.
It's been the same reason since Bob Gray started the group in 1949.
Former Secretary of the Army, Robert Gray.
The reason is this.
Through years and centuries of fighting between one group and another on the planet, people have learned at the top that if you force a people into subjugation, whether it be a country or a world, if you force them into subjugation, you can't keep them there because eventually they will have guerrilla attacks and revolutionary tactics, and it'll destroy the fabric of what you're trying to establish as a global order, whether it's good or bad or whatever.
You can't do that.
You have to have the permission, like Hitler did with Germany before World War II.
They asked him, in essence, to take over because things were so bad.
Look, help us.
He didn't come out and say, I've got the power in the government.
I've got the military, and I can take over this country.
No way.
He let them ask him.
Now, because they had a need.
A lot of the needs they had at the time, unemployment and social problems with the children.
I want to go to university and drop out, all that kind of junk.
We have that now in a greater extreme.
And we are crying out for someone to solve the problem.
So the reason the United States and the group that was actually controlling this technology wasn't just the United States.
It was trans government.
English heavily involved, Canadians, to a degree, the Australians.
And we had some Germans, a lot of Germans involved.
These people wanted to have a global government by consensus.
But they couldn't do it as Germans or Russians or Americans, or not Russians, but Germans or Canadians or Americans or English.
They had to do it as some group that had no political track record, no history.
It was realized back in 1949, perhaps even further back than that, that an alien, whether it be alien from underneath the earth or from off the earth or parallel worth, had to be invented or found to be this new neutral source of government.
There were many times, Ronald Reagan mentioned sort of wistfully that, gee, what if there was a single threat from outer space that we all had to face?
Can you imagine that everything we thought we knew about our government is wrong.
That everything we thought we knew about our technological advances that got us where we are today, the precarious position we're in today, all of that's wrong.
And that the officials that we elect, the people we go out and vote for, haha, are really the people that are orchestrating what goes on in the world, or at least in our very own country, or in the case of Stan in his country, what is now his country.
I guess Stan may have dual citizenship.
I guess I should ask about that.
But virtually all of our history is kind of a surface history, in that down below everything, really, it all happened in a very different way.
Here's Stan Dale from Australia.
disturbing stuff, Stan, because on the one hand, you know, I've grown up, I was born in 1945, right at the end of the war, the Second World War, Stan, and I've grown up, at least on the surface, kind of wanting to believe that most of what I know and believe to be true about my government, my country, is at least close to the truth.
Listen, just while we were on that break, we're having this confirmed, but a friend of ours in New York emailed Holly Morgan, and he said that Edgar Casey made an interesting statement about the year 1958.
He said that in that year they would discover the force that makes iron swim in water and stones float in air.
In fact, I did a documentary TV show with a group here back in 83.
We went to the NASA at Houston and interviewed Dr. Henry Pohl, who was one of the propulsion engineers, senior ones there for the space program, and a good friend and co-worker with Wernher von Braun.
And we have him on film saying that he would not be surprised in the near future at that time, 83, if they did not find an electrical solution to gravity, not unlike the one that he is convinced that they built the pyramids with.
Now, this is like the gods of propulsion talking to us on camera at NASA.
And, oh, look, I already knew.
I went in there with Arm for Bear because I knew what we had and wanted to see how much he knew.
And he had a sly grin on his face, but that's all he let out in that interview.
In fact, there was another fellow that knew something back in 77.
Well, it's just that I know that he knows some things that would be quite interesting if he would share them with your audience about the UFO situation.
Before he was a well-known director, he was just like the guy next door, very keen on the UFO thing, the alien thing.
And he appeared on the same show documentary that I was on back in 1977 down here in Perth.
And in that footage, he talked about sitting next to Reagan and having Reagan telling him something about who knew what about the UFO situation, the real truth about it.
And, you know, I'm trying to get him to just come out and talk like he did then because it was so casual and relaxed.
Not like it would be for him today, of course, he'd be under the gun because everybody knows Stephen's name and be looking for him and everything.
But anyway, I surely would like to have him say some of what he knows or has experienced in that field because then you'd start to see that there are a lot of people all the way up to the White House that do have a sniff of what's going on.
That what everyone thought about the UFO situation wasn't really the truth, that it was a cover-up, like a plan that was different to what the popular tabloids and everything would have about aliens and all that kind of stuff.
What I do think happened is that we did lose control of our own technology that we were developing from the help we had in the whether it be Roswell, whether it be the Philadelphia experiment, whatever, that our own project, which was to invent a fake alien culture to bring the world together peacefully, that our own project was taken over by true non-humans who probably were the ones that were the gods in some area, you know,
to the peoples back then, you know, the superhumans or the super beings that had magic bigger than theirs, so they called them gods.
And I think that they, perhaps some of the same ones because of the way that the technology works, are alive today and here and have taken over what was to be an effort by scientists, engineers, industrialists to make a world government that would work, to overcome religious and cultural differences and racial differences.
But it just, we weren't able to keep control of it.
I think that's probably why I was left alive down here instead of being fixed underground, is that my group down here realized they were in trouble.
And so they released a lot of us out and told us to, in essence, run, gave us a little bit of incentive and said, if you don't, you're dead.
All of my correspondence, the open correspondence and files, arrived on my doorstep at my house in Melbourne one morning with a courier, like not a courier, but a chauffeur from Sir John's office.
And he dropped all of my stuff in a box on the front porch while I was there with a note attached that says, my friends and I have no further use of your assistance now.
Thank you.
Goodbye.
God bless.
And then there was all kinds of memos and correspondence and everything that we had on the project and the drawings, all kinds of stuff.
So, you know, I was pretty destroyed by all that.
But within a few weeks, a group of businessmen approached me to get funding for my research from Dutch Shell Oil, which should make alarm bells go off with anybody that's familiar with conspiracy.
But anyway, I was taken to lunch by the president of one of these companies, and just he and I had a really nice bottle of red wine and was feeling pretty rosy.
And he said, look, we've already decided we don't need to have a presentation from you.
We're going to underwrite your continued research in these projects.
And you said you needed to, for your power converter, you wanted to have an antenna that went up 1,400 to 1,500 feet.
What about if we give you a shaft that's 5,000 feet deep, put your instrumentation package down at the bottom, build your lab down there, and you could then have the antenna up like that without having to float it or anybody see it, and you could do the energy conversion that way.
I said, well, gee, that'd be fine.
He says, okay, well, from this point forward, tell no one, not your family, not your friends, no one, where you're going and what we're going to do.
This must be secret.
I started thinking about I'm going to be at the bottom of a 5,000-foot mine shaft near Ballarat in the goldfields working on a project that no one knows I'm there and all those tons of rock up over the top of me.
Well, we're getting into my mind, I guess, now, and I guess I know you better, but they're just, I don't know why they still let me run around except for this, because there was an awful lot locked up in there.
Well, the they that we're talking about are no longer in power.
I think the guys that I was dealing with were, for the most part, gentlemen and real philosophers trying to solve the planet the best way they knew how.
For a long time, I didn't understand that.
But the older I've gotten, I was born the same year you were in February, but the older I've gotten, I've realized that I was just illiterate, uneducated in the ways of moving large masses of people.
Stan, I frankly don't even understand why they leave me alive to do what I do, much less why they've left you alive.
It just doesn't make any sense unless we live in the free country with the Bill of Rights and the Constitution as we really think that it is, or we serve a purpose.
And we were talking about some of the things that we might discuss.
And for years and years and years on this program, we have been doing things that are a good half year to a year ahead of when the regular press catches on to them.
And you represent one of those things.
I don't know, it was several years ago when you and I first connected, Stan, and you began talking to me about the Navy's satellite photography of the oceans and how you had been plotting ocean temperatures and looking at ocean temperatures.
And I think it was, oh, I don't know, eight months to a year before we began to see this incredible, what they now call El Niño building.
You began to talk to me about these ocean temperatures affecting our weather patterns and affecting volcanoes, affecting earth movement, all the rest of it, just by looking at hotspots in the ocean.
And you were making predictions that certainly came to fruition with what they call El Niño, and now La Niña, the opposite of it.
And I guess I'd like to ask you for sort of an update on that, where we are right now.
They're giving names to these changes, these radical changes that we're seeing.
But I think that there's more to it than El Niño and La Niña.
I think that we're undergoing some sort of fairly profound basic change.
Well, I think a lot of the climate or weather changes, climate and weather changes, are coming from things happening on the sun and inside the sun.
What I have just, in the last, well, week or so discovered, or think I've discovered, is something rather bizarre with the spin rate of the sun.
Most of us think that the sun is up there, kind of gaseous ball, but that it kind of spins around like a solid ball would.
But it doesn't.
You remember the equator of the sun spins faster than the poles do.
It spins around once in 25 days at the equator on the sun, and the poles spin around once in 36 days.
And in between there, the spin varies and curls and twists and all kinds of stuff.
And so there are still great discussions going on about how to determine the spin rate of the solid core sun down under what we can detect at the moment with our instruments.
I'm fairly close to that project, having communicated with the people who actually download the computers off the SOHO.
And they're just kind of average type good Joes.
I mean, no scientists and things like that.
There's no hocus pocus at what we talk.
And it is beyond its expected life as a satellite.
It was not designed to do much more than what it's done.
And the metal lenses for the digital cameras and stuff like that are getting pitted by, you know, protons and other particles blown at it with the sun consistently over the years it's been up.
What does interest us at the moment is, well, I say us, me, not me and those guys, but those of us watching this thing, is the alleged object that has been seen in a couple of Soho photographs since it came back online with the new kind of programming to...
My God, I was about to ask you, listen, I've been getting some communication from Whitley Strieber about an object orbiting the sun that he's researching very, very, very hard right now.
I probably shouldn't even be mentioning it.
But I know the SOHO has taken a couple of photographs of what seemed to be anomalous objects, and then right after those photographs have somehow leaked out or come out, SOHO has somewhat mysteriously shut down for a period of time.
The period of that thing that Streeber and a few other people are looking at would be around 24 to 25 day period, maybe even up to 32-day period.
I think they've got some estimates.
What really kind of rings alarm bells in my mind is it's something to do with the sun itself because it has the same kind of rotational period between 25 and 36 days.
The sun, we look at, you know, I study sunspots going back 250 years and, you know, in more recent times day by day.
And I found something last week that showed that the peak sunspot activity we get has in the last one, two, three, in the last six months been around a period of 26 days.
In other words, the high sunspot peak would be today, and then 26 days later it would be again, whether it be high or low, it would be 26 days.
I know there's a lot of controversy about that right now.
And I've been watching this particular cycle very, very carefully myself, just for selfish ham radio type reasons, because that affects, of course, shortwave transmission heavily.
And it's converse, or consequently, sorry, in the Otis thermal map that you're talking about, it is hard for us to be positive where we're going in the next few months.
But I can tell you this.
I've put it up on the website, a series of photos or images from 1996 through to today, about five images showing what the anomalous heating and cooling of the entire planet looked like from the ocean, you know, year by year.
And you see that we are in something that is a cross between a Nino and Anina right now.
And we're heading for what may be a super, you know, like the mother of El Niños in the next nine to ten months.
We're already past the point where I called the alert with you that first time on your show back, oh, was it 96, 97, something like that?
We've already exceeded that kind of anomalous heating on the planet in the Pacific.
And some really weird things are happening when the sun burps, when it puts out bursts of energy and extreme coronal mass ejections, which it does very frequently these days, within four days, we get super magnetic storms because it hits our upper atmosphere and the atosphere and it generates currents.
Well, I noticed immediately when we had the big one here recently that areas that were bigger than, let's say, hmm, well, well, it couldn't be bigger than Texas, but it was maybe about a third the size of Texas, right?
In the ocean, areas like that near Kamchatka, the Russian peninsula out there, would suddenly heat up and in the space of less than 12 hours cool down the other way, you know, make a 10-degree shift in temperature, and then it would bounce over to the other side of, say, South America.
And these anomalous heating things were electrical phenomena carrying heat out of the core of the planet, I'm sure, up into the surface of the ocean, and then back again.
And it just ricocheted like a ball inside the Earth after we had that huge display or that storm from the sun.
And I think we're headed for more of these.
We haven't even reached maximum yet, and we've already hit 210 sunspots.
We're already at 145 or so in the smooth sunspot average curve.
My question is, it kind of seems that there's a desensitizing of our culture, of the potential of extraterrestrials being our saviors, somewhat of ourselves or from our governments or from our technology.
Is it possible that the welcoming, kind of using an art bell phrase like the quickening, the welcoming of a global government is being orchestrated by, say, fallen angels?
Well, yeah, if you've read, I guess, the first or maybe second book, too, that I wrote, I did address this as the great deception I think is coming.
And I didn't arrive at that purely by Bible study.
It was from working inside this group and knowing that they were going to fake an alien landing at one time.
The subsequent information I've been able to get out of the Middle East, some of the older documents, tells a slightly different story in that these beings are not necessarily what we made, but they were back there when we were created, when the real God and Creator created us.
I think the way I see that it will play is that America has been host to the alien or the fallen angels, whatever you want to call them, these super beings from the past.
They have been host to them in the underground basis and have allowed them to house their facilities in the United States and territories of the United States while they were giving the Americans and the British, whatever, shared technology for this.
However, I think in the end, what will happen is that there will be a mass exodus of the alien present in America.
We'll see them leave suddenly.
And one way or another, America will be very rapidly destroyed as a world power within days, I think.
And the exodus of these alien critters and their craft and technology will go over to either Iraq or Iran and set up base there, as the old writings do indicate, near Basra somewhere.
And I think this will be these beings returning to the area where they were most familiar before the great conflagration, you know, the great floods and the earthquakes and stuff that broke up Atlantis.
But I think that's what the Genesis 6 tale was talking about, is that advanced civilization that was hybrid beings from, you know, the fallen angels we wish, that the sons of God, like Plato said, coming down and mating with human women.
And that was all destroyed back there.
But that was their old dig.
So I think you're going back there to set up the world government from there, but without the United States, because I think the United States will be just fairly well destroyed.
I did have a dream back in 96, in January, I think it was, which I've put onto the website for some time.
Every part of that dream has come to pass except the last part, which I've been trying to see, and that is a large meteor shower that would fall over the Pacific, you know, the west coast of the United States pre-dawn.
And I thought the Leonid shower this last time might have been it, but it didn't do it.
But do you remember how another window in November?
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But do you remember even before the Leonid shower, I think you mentioned it before, I'm almost positive it was on your site, and I may be wrong.
I live in California.
I'm calling from San Jose.
There was a pre-dawn, and I could, I'll look in my archives, and if I find the article, I'll email it to you.
There was a pre-dawn event like that.
Do you remember, like, it was about maybe two years ago or a year ago?
And this last part was like a curtain of burning embers with flames coming.
It was just huge all across the western sky.
It wasn't something that a few people had to be in the right place to see.
To me, it just lit up everything.
And I don't know whether it'll be some other surprise or whether it be Leonidas or what, but when that comes, I know that I'm to turn around to the people I'm talking to through the web and say, it really begins now, mark time from now.
This is the beginning.
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Did you explain the reason why March 5th and September are fairly important dates?
Those two days are the two periods of time when we're exposed to portions of the solar wind at maximum because the sun spins slightly off-tilt on its axis.
It's 7.2 degrees tilted to the side, and we're tilted 23.5 degrees hours.
And twice a year on those dates, the maximum solar wind disturbance that we're going to get occurs peaks at those times.
And we're coming up to that time now at the same time that we're having other activity on the sun toward a solar maximum for solar cycle 23.
So now, or in September, early September, I feel could be some very interesting phenomenon on the surface of the Earth.
It's funny, new scientists put an article out just, oh, the last couple days on the sun, what would happen if it were to blow some big blobs of fire off toward the earth and how it would affect the power stations and the radio and everything.
I don't have the article at hand, but they've even made a public statement about it there.
In the Warren Commission documents, which everybody kind of thought was a whitewash, there were a couple of clues that gave away some very pertinent information.
One was that several of the witnesses on the grassy knoll heard a shot that sounded like a cannon.
Two was that one security man was arrested or stopped coming up out of a manhole behind the grassy knoll behind the fence where the guy with the rifle is supposed to have been.
And this man was dressed in a suit wearing White House security colors of the day on his badge when they stopped him.
A policeman stopped him.
And he was wearing earcups.
He'd just come from the rain drain tunnel, which ran under that street that Kennedy's car was shot on.
That was in the Warren Commission report.
To make a cannon sound, you have to have a big tube.
And the gun, there was a pistol, a .45-caliber pistol, came in the possession of a friend of mine, an acquaintance, who worked for the mafia.
And he turned himself into District Attorney Jim Garrison at that time, a little bit after that when Garrison was pushing, with the pistol and the story that it was used down in the rain drain, which I've gone and stood in and photographed from, so that the man was within about 10 feet of Kennedy when he shot him from the front as the car passed over the top of the car.
And that's why I lifted him up and took part of his skull out at the top.
It was a low-angle, high-mass, low-velocity bullet.
It was a.45-caliber pistol that finished him.
Now, these people worked in connection with the mafia.
There was a lot more on Jack Ruby and why he got prime treatment, but that's another story.
Well, I don't want to be a scaremonger, but I certainly wouldn't choose that myself, no.
The reason being that it is an island built on volcanic stuff that's still very active.
Certainly a lot more active than these things I've got here that have got tons of dirt and sediment piled on top of them.
If it were at all possible, I would choose some other place where I've got a lot more dirt around me and maybe some high ground that's very old and fairly stable.
I guess, you know, I can only say I chose to stay here where we are because of that reason.
It's a nuclear war and the spread of the toxins, the radioactive toxins that killed the northern hemisphere, the combatants, took its time getting down to Australia.
And the people here kind of took on a MASH attitude, you know, the series MASH, where they had fun and did the things they always wanted to do on their way to dying.
They thought, well, if we're going to go, we might as well ignore the fact and have fun.
So they did.
And I think it was a very prophetic book in some respects.
I'm ill with a very strange version of a chronic illness.
And it's supposedly one of the illnesses that sort of disappeared in the 80s, chronic fatigue syndrome.
And my version of the illness has taken me to the point where I'm pretty much dependent on narcotic painkillers, and I'm in a wheelchair.
And I was just wondering, like, with the downplay of the illness and the weird spread of the illness, how it sort of seemed to pop up, if there was anything to do with biological warfare or anything like that, or if it was related to the Gulf War syndrome.
Yeah, we'll probably see it Wednesday afternoon early.
Okay, I know that they've been billing it.
My take on it is certainly one of a lot of interest because about three or four years ago, I got this mysterious phone call from a guy in England with a Scottish accent.
He was in London, and he called, introduced himself, and gave his particulars.
And at that time, he was representing the Prime Minister and the Duke of Edinburgh in a dig in Egypt at the pyramid that they had been opening.
And they had gotten into the front chamber of it, had trouble with water flooding and things like that.
And they saw something on the door to the tomb room they were going in, which led them to believe that it was the tomb of Alexander that the Pharaoh Ptolemy or Pompey or something, I forget who it was anyway, built for him.
And I asked why he was calling me about this, and he said it was to invite me to the dig when they opened it, because there was something on the door that they had seen carved there that reminded them of the front cover of my book, the Cosmic Conspiracy Thing with that pyramid and the glass eye and all that kind of stuff up on top of it.
Well, I sat around waiting for the next phone call and never received it.
They kept getting water apparently pumped out and finally gave up for a while.
I think it was a woman in charge of the dig anyway.
So, you know, my interest was piqued at that time.
And then I started looking at the front cover of my book.
And there I have a capstone, the missing capstone, sitting back down, or trying to sit on the pyramid there as the sign of the, like the Antichrist coming back to take his throne in that area.
I'm at StanDeo, S-T-A-N-D-E-Y-O, at sign netconnect, that's N-E-T, D-O-N-N-E-C-T dot com, D-O-M, dot A-U.
Actually, it might be an interesting exercise if they're emailing that address that everyone who hears this on the internet, only the Internet people who's listening to it like on real audio, if they would email us to say where they are listening to it from, we might get some kind of an idea where the distribution of listeners are on the internet.
It wasn't meant to be saying September the 6th, go 6, go do something, you know, and hide.
It was simply that this happens to be the peak solar wind activity or influence we get on the Earth for geomagnetic storms twice a year.
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It's just because that date is the anniversary of the funeral of Princess Diana.
And I just wondered if you ever considered the effect of the sun having affect the Earth.
Because I don't think in the history of the planet have so many people grieved over the death of somebody because there hasn't been that many people on the planet before.
Well, I don't know that there is a connection, but one could imagine a connection between what goes on in the sun and human behavior because we are connected to this planet which is connected to the sun.
So I guess you could broadly suggest there would be a connection.
Well, again, I'm not privy to everything that went on in that experiment.
I did talk to Townsend Brown about it before he died and to a member of the Atomic Energy Commission in London, Dr. Tadford.
But as far as I understand from what I was shown and had explained to me, I did see the working diagrams of the minesweeper and how it was wired for the test.
That the only alteration of time was local field, and so that anybody inside the field experienced the passage of time quicker than those on the outside of the field.
So the two hours was just a few minutes for them.
But as far as I can determine, no one was reported to have gone forward in time and back.
Personally, I think that would be very, very difficult at all.
But certainly going forward in time and staying would be possible.
Well, I must tell you here, I have never, to my knowledge anyway, met an alien being.
I have probably read more reports from places that people don't have access to about this subject.
The most I can say is that from the old writings, Sumerians and the Babylonians and stuff, some of the Egyptian writings, is there is indication that they were taller, as a general rule, than the average person, were handsome features, fair-skinned, and these were the human, you know, humanoid type beings.
And when they mated with our women, the offspring were sterile, like the seeds that have been fixed that don't reproduce.
And that they had abilities, you know, mental and physical, above the average peanut, but they died with them when they died because they couldn't reproduce.
So today, what's running around is slightly different in that we have reports of hybrid posts for these beings, for their consciousness to inhabit or drive or something, like automatons, these little gray things and the big gray things.
So those you probably wouldn't see walking down the street.
If any are among us, I'm sure they would walk and talk and look fairly human, if not slightly taller and quite handsome for whatever sex they are.
Yeah, I got a couple of things for Mr. Dale, but I'd like to mention to you, if I may, a couple of weeks ago, thereabouts, you mentioned about when you got your vaccine, the polio vaccine.
Yes, Mr. Dale, I sure appreciate you, sir, very much.
And I hope whatever you do that you'll just be careful.
And I just wanted to ask you if you know anything about this, because Richard Hoagland, he's always giving reference to 19.5.
And I was just wondering, because they talk about warping and bringing space and time together to go in and out of dimensions, he mentioned it so many times.
I was just wondering if there's anything about that that you may know and you want to tell us about.
Well, the Philadelphia experiment, strangely enough, was something that almost breached that parallel universe thing because by varying some of the phase angles and pulse rates between the coils, you can cause the energy to stack inside the field when you turn it on.
A Volkswagen engine over a period of an hour would put enough energy into one of these fields to make that battleship disappear.
It doesn't take much power if you use it over a period of time and stack it.
I did some experiments with a small coil myself years ago in Dallas and did manage to bend light for a fraction of a second in the room, possibly almost breaching a gateway between the parallel universes.
I'm reasonably certain from the older records we can get, even in the Hebrew biblical records, that the levels of existence are like parallel shells of universes all coexisting around nodes, if you wish, and that we have universes right next to us that we could port through, like the TV series that used to be on called sliders or something like that.
In fact, their coil looked very much like what we were playing with.
What it looked like was like the whole room around the lab had saran wrap on it, and it was poked down into the center of the coil.
And when it fired, when it pulsed, it was as though somebody tried to pull that saran wrap down in the center of the coil, and it wrinkled all the light coming in from the walls and the tables and everything as though it were bent down into that in this weird pulling stretching movement.
And I got quite nauseous because I felt like I rolled.
My stomach rolled as though I were rolling into the coil center, but it was a very short-term event.
I couldn't get it to fire again.
I met another guy down in Australia later, years later, who had the same effect, same problem with his coil.
We have that condition that occurs occasionally, and I guess, you know, we're staying hooked up here between America and Australia for, what, four hours?
So, aside from a big phone bill, I think you begin to get effects after a while.
I don't know whether it's a new dig or just old things are opening up.
If we see that they had to go through a chamber that had been flooded beforehand, then it may be the same one.
All I can tell you is the only reason that they delayed getting me over there at that time was because they couldn't stop the flooding of the chamber in front of the actual tomb area they wanted to get into.
They couldn't keep it pumped out fast enough, apparently.
And that's the only clue I've got as to what dig it was.
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Yeah, I think that would be some tremendous information found if that truly was Alexander's tomb, is all.
I wanted to present a scenario, and then, you know, I have a two-part question at the end.
First of all, when you had William Thomas on, I tried to get through and let him know that I wanted to mention a book that was written 10 years ago that corroborates what he's talking about as far as Army testing over populated areas.
And the book is called Clouds of Secrecy, the Army's Germ Warfare Tests Over Populated Areas by Leonard Cole.
My scenario is I feel it's basically the Fourth Reich.
You know, it's the International Fascist Network.
1947 was a pretty pivotal year.
You have Roswell, which I thought was staged.
Well, I wasn't there, obviously.
You have Nazis streaming in at this time to the U.S., Central and South America, Canada by the thousands.
General Galen helps found the CIA with the help of the Dulles Brothers out of the OSS.
Werner von Braun refuses to work for us unless we rescue his boss, General Dornberger, who was scheduled for the gallows.
In swoops the Air Force and NASA's in business.
He ended up, Dornberger ended up heading Bell Helicopter, which made $50 billion in Vietnam alone.
And finally, the fiesta resistance of the whole scenario, which I think controlled everything, was the National Security Act as signed by Truman creating the National Security State, which in my opinion is a very fascistic structure, incompatible with either a republic or a democracy.
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As the Grateful Dead said, what a long, strange trip it's been.
My opinion is no doubt.
It's been a 50-year PSYOP.
Now, Mr. Dale, you made a reference earlier in the show to military mind control experiments performed on you during the military.
And my two-part question is: are you familiar with two books, Shefflin and Opton's The Mind Manipulators or Walter Boert's Operation Mind Control?
And if so, what they described in their books, does that dovetail with what happened to you?
And part two, are you concerned about long-term programming or that most of what you were programmed with was disinformation?
I think I remember the Operation Mind Control book.
I don't know the authors.
I couldn't tell you to save myself at the moment, but it's been so long since I read it that I couldn't tell you whether it was the same kind of stuff that I went through or not.
Certainly I know that some of my martial art stuff that was there comes out when I'm asleep or someone wakes me up very quietly.
I have to be careful not to hurt people around me sometimes when they wake me up like that.
But that's the only thing I've seen of late that surfaced it was ex-military.
I haven't been worried enough about that.
I thought, well, look, I'll go get a hypnotist or something and dig it out.
I just let it go.
And I don't know whether they can condition you even then with something that would last a lifetime without reinforcement along the way.
And I think I've been fairly well away from any sort of potential reinforcement in the lifestyle I've led.
So I'm not too concerned about it.
Sorry.
There was one thing he mentioned about fascist state and all that.
I do have a real worry for folks who are Jewish or Judeo-Christian who are Jewish sympathizers in the United States or in Australia for that matter, but particularly in the State.
Because I do feel that there is a rising anti-Semitism in the world and particularly in the south of the United States.
And this does bother me.
It is we can see the genocide forming again, and it's not just Jews this time, but people who think alike in that respect.
And I am concerned and do expect full well that a number of Jewish folk from the United States and Great Britain will eventually migrate back to Israel for safety.
So this fascist type thing you're talking about may well be part of what's happened.
So I'm giving a little credence to what you're saying.
Stan, do you think there's any possibility, whatever, you know, the experiments of mind control, whatever, but do you think there's a possibility, and of course that's a broad word, but that the public's being jerked around a little bit on this UFO gig and I mean this idea that Teller would share with you 50 UFOs in Antarctica and the rest of this.
I don't think it's probable, mainly because I understand how the field worked and have used it to build a small boat that I have demonstrated here in Australia in the water.
It does work.
So that's, you know, that's not disinformation.
This is a technology.
It's called asymmetric propulsion.
And so for that reason, I tend to believe the rest of it.
Indoctrination would have only been technology.
We never got into philosophical issues until the day I was leaving.
Why would you say that something that gives you deja vu, which is simply a recollection of something that has occurred to you before, would be extraterrestrial in origin?
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Well, because it was fed to me extraterrestrially.