Dr. Walter Semkew and Dr. Walter Simhugh dissect reincarnation as a physical process driven by a "spiritual genetic code" that preserves traits across lifetimes to work out karma through emotional rejection. They argue that suppressing this belief historically maintained religious control, while modern films like What Dreams May Come foster the necessary "web consciousness" for spiritual evolution. Ultimately, their theories suggest that building a strong ego is essential before transcending individual identity, implying that environmental responsibility stems from knowing one will return to the planet in future incarnations. [Automatically generated summary]
From the high desert and the great American Southwest, I bid you all good evening or good morning wherever you may be across this great land of ours in some time zones.
It's already Thanksgiving.
In others, well actually Thanksgiving is now sweeping across the nation at the speed of time zones.
Whatever that is, an hour to time, I guess.
Anyway, welcome from commercially the Hawaiian Taishan Islands outwest eastward to the Caribbean and the U.S. Virgin Islands, south into South America, north all the way to the Pole and worldwide on the internet.
This is Coast to Coast AM and I'm Art Bell.
Great to be here.
We're going to have open lines in the first hour tonight.
Then in the second hour, we are going to have a man whose name I can't pronounce.
I think it's SimQ.
Walter, Dr. Walter Semkew, who is an MD, regular medical doctor, and he claims he has discovered visual evidence of reincarnation.
So from a medical doctor, that's quite something, and we'll talk with him in the next hour.
This hour, open lines, anything you want to talk about is fair game.
We come to you on the internet, of course, courtesy of broadcast.com.
Thank you for that distribution worldwide.
And, of course, the Intel Corporation, which has devised this unique map that allows these wonderful new programs, the G2 or the G, the new 7 program, G7, I think it is.
G7, that sounds like a summit, doesn't it?
Anyway, you can go to my website and download those programs, either one you want, and come back to my website, click on streaming video, and then you will see me doing the show as well as hear it underway.
That is, if you really want to watch somebody sitting here talking.
I don't know why people do that, but they do it.
It's kind of cool.
Well, about 20 million of you are hitting the road to go eat foul at somebody else's house.
20 million people have hit the road and or the skies and or whatever to get from here to there to eat foul.
And so I sat down and I wrote, well, I'll tell you, I blasted a letter off to Delta Airlines and just let them have it.
I said, how can you trap passengers in a plane for hours and hours and hours and offer only this foul choice?
And they wrote me back and they said, well, you know, things in the airline industry have changed.
And they were very nice.
I couldn't believe it.
Nothing but turkey.
Nothing but a heartache.
That brings up another subject I'll get to in a moment.
Anyway, 20 million of you on the move.
So if you're one of the ones on the move right now, hello.
Drive safely, buckle up and all that.
An Egyptian official said Wednesday that he believes an explosion, that's right, an explosion brought down Egypt Air Flight 990.
A general sent over to listen to and evaluate the tape said the cases of both black boxes located in the tail were severely damaged, which he says confirms the tail of the plane was subjected to an explosion, says he, at the height or an altitude of 33,000 feet because of, quote, an internal or external explosion, end quote.
The general said he thought that a missile or a bomb had caused this, but U.S. investigators disagree.
They think the crash was caused by a backup pilot who apparently was alone in the cockpit shortly before that jet plunged into the Atlantic from 33,000, killing all 217 on board.
So the Egyptians obviously have a bit of a different take on all of this than we do.
The fugitive who helped carry out Britain's remember this now?
They did movies about it.
1963 Great Train Robbery.
What do you think he's doing now, huh?
He's designing a new video game based on the heist.
Ronald Biggs was arrested and sentenced to 30 years in Wadsworth prison, but escaped in 1965 after serving just 15 months.
And he eventually popped up in Brazil in 1970, where he successfully fought efforts by the British government to extradite him, because he had a lot of money.
He and fellow train robber Bruce Reynolds have signed on as design consultants with England's SCI Entertainment Group to develop a video and computer game based on their infamous heist, the company and Biggs family announced on Wednesday.
There are a number of countries, as you know, Brazil and a bunch of others, that if you have enough money, it really doesn't matter what you did short of some genocidal act, and you will be protected.
You will be given a passport.
You'll be welcomed in as a new member of the Brazilian community or whatever.
And there's no way they're ever going to send you back.
Now, of course, if you're busted broke, why you're on the next plane out of here.
In a moment, I've got a letter.
We're scheduling a show with Dr. Jonathan Reed and Robert Wraith and more.
Dr. Reed is the doctor who had the encounter with the alien being, ended up with the being in his freezer.
You remember all of that?
You remember the photographs, the obelisk?
Photographs of the alien?
Well, folks, guess what?
There is more.
I'll tell you all about it in a moment.
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Let's talk a little bit about the shadow government.
Yeah, we've heard that term, you know, for so many years, and I thought it was this group in the Netherlands that sit behind smoked windows and make decisions like, you know, giant players of chess.
I'm sure a lot of you remember Dr. Jonathan Reed and Robert Wraith and Dr. Reed who had this incredible story of an encounter with an alien that was beaten up on his dog and then he clubbed the thing and he thought it was dead, took it home, put it in the freezer.
and you'll recall it started screaming and banging on the freezer when he thought it was, oh, the whole story is incredible.
But you see, he supplied photographs of the obelisk, the craft, whatever you want to call it, that was suspended in mid-air.
He supplied photographs of the alien and told that story, and we put all those photographs on the website.
Well, guess what?
You're about to get an update.
December 9th, they will be back.
I've got a letter here from Robert Raith who tells me in part, here are the negatives.
In fact, I've got them.
Of the obelisk and the alien being.
Not just the photographs, but the negatives.
You may have them analyzed to prove once and for all that they are only ordinary 35 millimeter color negatives and in fact have not been altered in any way and have not been digitally enhanced or edited and are not computer generated.
Through this analysis, it will conclusively prove the photographs and negatives of the obelisk were not processed manufactured or manipulated in any kind of shadow box illusion or trick as was previously publicly claimed on the Art Bell Show now,
proving that the photographic evidence of the obelisk craft is a full-size three-dimensional object that was in fact simply captured on film in the woods by Jonathan Reed and his camera.
Thus again proving once and for all that they are real and genuine photos of a strange anomalous object that was in fact truly there.
They've had an analysis done by Eastman Kodak in New York.
So I've got the negatives.
Also, I've got a new never-before-seen photograph of what they talked about, the alien link artifact.
You remember that?
Well, I've got photographs of the alien link artifact, and we'll have those up for the show.
I've seen it, and you have it.
And on my show, Dr. Reed, get this, folks, for the doubting Thomases out there, Dr. Reed will introduce to the audience Dr. Harold Kahn, or I'm not sure, C-H-A-C-O-N, a degreed microbiologist graduating with honors from Catholic University of Puerto Rico with a B.S. Master's Program Certificate in the field of microbiology, biomedical research in cell immunology, biochemistry, and zoology,
currently studying and residing in this country.
The doctor, with help from his university, Brace Yourself, have analyzed and documented in detail organic tissue and blood samples taken from the alien creature that Jonathan and his friend Gary were able to hide away and preserve.
The findings are ready to be released to the public and the entire world, in fact, on this program.
He's going to actually come on the air with Dr. Reed.
And that's just a little bit of what's going to happen on the 9th.
So there you have it.
For those of you who have been waiting for a follow-up to this program now, you've got it.
By the way, while we're on the subject of what's going to go on next week, we're going to delve into the incredibly fascinating world of little stuff, little things.
Really little things.
Things so little you can't see them.
Little machines that might run around inside your body and fix things.
Nanotechnology.
Organic nanotechnology.
Charles Ossman, an expert in that, will be here.
And that'll be on, let me see, Tuesday night.
And we're going to talk about something really interesting with Peter Habfield on the following evening.
And I'm going to kind of leave that a little bit of a little bit of a mystery.
And then on the third night next week, we're going to interview Stephen Segal, Stephen Segal, the actor.
And I was in a pretty good conversation with Stephen prior to deciding to do the program, and it is amazing what he's into.
You wouldn't know it by his movies.
You just wouldn't know it.
But he's a very, very spiritual person.
He also is a person who believes in time travel.
Now there's a couple of things I bet you didn't know about Stephen Segal.
So he'll be interesting to talk to.
Also on the 7th, one of our nation's greatest journalists, Jack Anderson, is going to be here.
We're going to talk about his career and what he did, the big fight he had with J. Edgar Hoover and a whole lot more.
Jack Anderson, if you're old enough to remember him.
Here's kind of an interesting story.
You might want to make note of this, folks.
It comes to us from the Vancouver, B.C. Province newspaper and was deposited upon my fax machine earlier today.
Dateline Victoria.
Headline, Y2K comes early to two Victoria hospitals.
The ghost of Y2K has come to haunt Victoria's two main hospitals at the time of writing yesterday morning when the phones, the telephones, mysteriously went dead for two hours.
One thing, I used to listen to you in an optical lab for a major wholesale company in Seattle, and there's a number of us probably still working over there now that are listening to us.
In fact, actually in Montana, I would think with the view and vista you have, you could see the chemtrails slowly oozing from the sky for literally hundreds of miles.
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I got to tell you something interesting.
I got the notion of how to get the to get some public officials' attention.
I went to the Flathead County Sheriff's Department and asked to speak to their emergency response coordinator.
Well, you all know because of my repetitive use of it that I love this record.
It's by a little-known group called the Flirtations, and guess what I got that you can see?
I got a letter from the Flirtations.
That's right, they're in Great Britain, and they just wrote to me and said, Hello, Art.
First, we'd like to say happy Thanksgiving to you and all your listeners.
Secondly, a very, very big thank you for all your support.
We've re-recorded Nothing But a Heartache, and we're seriously thinking of releasing it.
But we have another song that is cooking, and we'd like to have you have it first.
So, Art, if you would like to do an interview with us, we're available anytime.
Just let us know.
All our love, and the three Flirtation Sisters have signed it.
And so, I sent a copy along to Keith, and he's posted it up on the website with a picture of the flirtations, a record that sort of came out of nowhere.
And that's kind of neat.
I get about a million emails like this one that I'm going to read you.
I mean a million.
Hi, Art.
It's from Harry.
I don't know where Harry is, but he says, Hi, Art.
First, thanks for everything you do so well.
Second, please, please, please, please figure out a way we can get a copy of Nothing But a Heartache by the Flirtations.
I am haunted, sir.
It's your fault, and you have to help me find a cure.
Yeah, I know, Harry.
I really am not sure where you can get a copy of that song right now.
I'm sure you can do a search on the web and probably come up with something.
But it's about to be re-released.
Now, it'll be a new version of the same song, and I wonder if it could ever really be as good.
I mean, talk about a dramatic beginning to a record.
This thing just absolutely snacks rocks.
I love that record.
All right.
Anyway, back to business and your calls in a moment.
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Let's talk a little bit about the shadow government.
Yeah, we've heard that term, you know, for so many years, and I thought it was this group in the Netherlands that sit behind smoked windows and make decisions like giant players of chess.
You really got to wonder what's going to happen January 1st.
I mean, are you going to walk out and find that your computer is a melted mass of plastic and prior electronic parts sort of sitting there in a congealed mess on the floor?
Okay, well then on modern airplanes on the 747s, like when you go to Europe or Africa or Asia or whatever, they have on the screen where you are in your trip, you know, because it takes about 15 hours, in fact, 24 hours to get to South Africa when I went.
And you get to a pretty good altitude, and the outside temperature goes to like 60, 70.
I even saw 80 degrees below zero.
Magnificent.
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I wish I could have seen that.
Well, anyway, I'll get into what I was talking about.
I saw some contrails.
This is about two months ago.
I tried to get through to you, but I couldn't at the time.
Anyway, they looked like they were melting.
I never saw anything like this before.
They look like, you know, a streak.
You know how they usually go straight like a rocket, like a pinch mark?
All of a sudden, these were melting like candle wax.
our satellite was knocked out yes anyway that guy what i believe he said that he was that the aliens had infiltrated and they were going to do some I mean, have you ever thought of the quickening regards this?
Maybe you don't know about with Whitley Striper, called the coming global superstorm, and if you want something that'll scare the heck out of you, read that book.
Okay, I just wanted to comment on the air, on the Egypt disaster.
It's quite interesting how the other bureaucrats suddenly jumped to the sense of, or complained about, people who are making comments about, you know, speculation as to what happened.
We're not going to talk about the relief pilot anymore.
That's just speculation and that all happened because of severe political pressure from the Egyptian government.
And there's a lot of sensitive things going on over there in the Middle East, as you know, and we don't we don't want to antagonize the Egyptians, so we're soft pedaling everything.
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But when I read that book about that free fall of that the the the, the jet, the 767 that made a landing without any power yes, I reading it that gave me some insight as to how the aircraft functions and it indicated that without the engines, control of rudder would be next to the, the control surfaces would be next to impossible.
The 767 that actually glided to a landing up there in your country, just north of where I live.
Now, you've got to understand that it was it close to you, oh yeah, just north of where I am.
I mean, that's an amazing story.
The guy was at I don't know 40 some thousand feet, lost both engines and actually managed to glide a 767, which ought to be more like a rock, into a safe landing and everybody lived.
Yeah, and that's the story, and it's a true story.
And but but you've got to remember that pilot, in addition to being a commercial pilot, was a glider pilot.
He knew how to exactly do what he had to do.
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But that's not all.
Uh, the quick thinking of the air traffic control personnel directed him to an abandoned because he couldn't make it there to Winnipeg Airport, where I am yeah, he could make it.
So they had to give him to an alternate site and all he knew was this abandoned airport airstrip, somewhere being used by hot rodders to to, you know, you know, go up and down the strip.
They look up in the air and they see this aircraft coming out, no lights and nothing, no power, no noise.
So they all scramble to get out of the way.
But they had the presence of mind to line up their cars along the strip, aim the headlights across to light it up.
Yeah, so they come along and this jet's got this, you know, a supposedly abandoned air airstrip and it's all lit up for Like an honor guard of cars all up and down the strip.
And then I got a million newspaper stories facts to me, so I know it's absolutely true.
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But they're saying that once without the auxiliary power, there's this RAM turbine that you use to give you at least minimal control of the air surfaces.
And if they had turned on the auxiliary power, it would have given control on the flaps.
And without it, it probably would have had his flaps locked upwards.
But as I'm telling my friends about this, my wife has a couple paper outs she does in the morning, okay, that she took over for the kids that they got uninterested, and so she took them over.
And I'm talking to my friends about this thing that's happened.
Yeah, we've heard that term, you know, for so many years, and I thought it was this group in the Netherlands that sit behind smoked windows and make decisions like giant players of chess.
The news is just now breaking that apparently two airplanes nearly collided tonight at LAX.
That's down in LA.
On KTLA television at 10 o'clock this evening, it was reported that one of the pilots, quote, thought he heard an instruction, end quote, to turn the plane onto another runway where it was nearly hit by another plane.
Thought he heard an instruction?
Dan, who sent the facts, said, does this make you as nervous as it makes me?
You know, in addition to these really sophisticated flight simulators that these pilots are tested on, it seems to me one of the first questions ought to be, you know, line them all up in a row and say, everybody raise your right hand.
Runway to right, that kind of stuff.
Turn right, following heading.
This kind of stuff.
Right, left, basic, right?
All right.
Now, the world of reincarnation, obviously, playing the song I did coming into the hour, it gives you a little hint.
That was Wayland Jennings, Willie Nelson, Johnny Cash, and Chris Christoffesen.
You didn't hear the whole thing, but you heard enough to get the idea.
An American medical doctor, it says here, has actual proof of reincarnation.
Again, underlined, actual proof of reincarnation.
One of the few physicians willing to even discuss this subject, Dr. Walter Siskew, MDMPH, says, quote, I can tell you unequivocally that reincarnation is real, end quote.
Using public records and historical archives, he has tracked down documentation and portraits of deceased people who are now alive.
Again, Dr. Siskew has images of more than 50 people who lived in colonial America and matching photographs of the same people living today.
He reports they look the same, have the same personality traits, same talents, in some cases pursue similar types of work.
Another astonishing documented fact discovered by Dr. Siskew is that family units recur.
While doing research for a new book, the good doctor determined that people sometimes incarnate in groups.
A board-certified occupational medicine physician who practices medicine full-time, Dr. Siskew, was formerly medical director of the 76 Products Company of the Unical Corporation.
He was a Phi Beta Kappa graduate of the University of Illinois and the University of Illinois Medical School.
Well, I do work-related medicine, and for most of my career, 11 years, I was a medical director for an oil company, Unical 76.
And in that capacity, I supervised medical issues for people working at refineries, offshore oil platforms, pipeline workers, tanker truck drivers, that sort of thing.
I have talked to a lot of emergency room physicians and other crisis-type medical people, and they have some pretty wild stories to tell about when people pass away.
I've heard things that would curl your hair.
I've heard from relatives who have, this one really gets got me, you know, in the room with the monitoring equipment running and all the rest of it.
They knew this person was about to pass away and the relative was there and she threw her arms, literally hugged the person who was about to pass away.
And at the moment they were hugging, the person passed away.
And she felt, she actually fully claimed she felt this person's spirit move through her body.
Do you hear stories of this kind in the medical world?
In other words, you're dealing with people's physical bodies.
Yet you believe in reincarnation, the implication of which is you obviously believe in the presence of a soul separate from or included with the physical body.
I didn't consciously say I wanted to find proof of reincarnation.
What happened was back in 1984, I was doing my residency in occupational medicine, and a friend of mine said that she had seen this medium who is supposed to channel your guides through, and your spiritual guides talk to you.
Well, this sounded a little strange to me, but it sounded interesting, and it only cost $50, and I thought, what the hell, I'll give it a try.
And so I went to the medium, and the medium started to channel my guides.
And when the medium channeled the guides, the voice of the medium changed drastically.
You know, it was like a totally different entity.
And they basically, you know, told me about my family life and what I'd be doing in the future.
And in terms of my personal life, they were very, very accurate about my family and the issues that were present.
And then they told me about this lifetime that I had in colonial America.
And I wasn't really expecting this.
This was not really billed as a past life reading or anything.
It kind of came out of the blue.
And they told me that I was this particular person in colonial America, and that if I went back and researched this person, I would see myself.
And at the time, I was living in Chicago, and this was supposed to have taken place on the East Coast, and I really wasn't in a position to just get up and go and, you know, pursue this.
And I basically tucked it away and didn't really make much out of it.
And I took a job in California, the job with Uni-Cal I was telling you about, and I got married, and we bought a house, and I landscaped a yard, and didn't think too much about this reading.
And the marriage lasted about seven years, and then after I got divorced, I was in a better financial position to travel.
And at one point in time, I just got this really strong intuition to go research this life.
And I remember very distinctly that it was kind of out of the blue whereas I had not really thought about this reading for 12 years or so, all of a sudden I just really had this urge to go find out about this lifetime.
And so basically I arranged for a medical meeting back at Harvard so that I could go to this medical meeting, get to the East Coast, and I started to try to research this lifetime.
And I went to historical societies and the genealogic societies, and I found a lot of information, actually.
And there were a lot of portraits available.
And as it turned out, people do incarnate in groups based on shared karma, emotional attachments, and common goals.
Well, the thing that made so many portraits available was that two of the people in my group were portrait painters.
And so a lot of the people that I was around during that time had their portraits done.
And not only did I recognize myself, but I started to recognize people around me in this lifetime, back in that lifetime.
It was quite close, you know, but what was more shocking, see, the thing that makes this believable is not just one person.
I mean, if it was just me, if I just saw this one portrait of me and researched that person's life and the personality traits, I still wouldn't be convinced.
But for just as an example, in that movie, there's a family that is together in the beginning, and then they all sooner or later die, and then they meet on the other side.
And then at the end of the movie, the husband and wife, Robin Williams and his wife, decide to come and incarnate again as a couple again.
And I have multiple family units that I have where the mother and the father look the same, the kids look the same from the last lifetime to this lifetime.
And not just one, but maybe five or six of these family groups.
And when you see, you know, the interconnections and that the personality traits of all these people are the same, many times their vocations are the same.
Yes, in other words, or another way to put it is, what good is reincarnation if you have no conscious memory of a prior life and no lessons have been learned and you have to learn them all over again the hard way usually.
And, yes, happy Thanksgiving to most of the country now, sweeping to the west and headed toward the Hawaiian Islands.
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How did we get here?
Or do you think they even have the answer right?
If they're sentient, intelligent beings, I have no doubt in my mind they're asking the same questions that we're asking.
And the day you find a being that's not looking is the day you probably found God.
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Let's talk a little bit about the shadow government.
Yeah, we've heard that term, you know, for so many years, and I thought it was this group in the Netherlands that sit behind smoked windows and make decisions like, you know, giant players of chess.
But I think it's set up now and it's working just the way they like it.
We need a systemic change in order to let the Republic be representative of the people again.
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You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from November 24th, 1999.
And by the way, if I could just mention that the bottom-line conclusions that I've sort of drawn from analyzing all this evidence about reincarnation is in a book that I wrote, and it's called Astrology for Regular People.
And it's not really a book just on astrology.
It integrates astrology with world religions, including Christianity and Buddhism and Hindu beliefs.
And one of the bottom lines is that in one lifetime, you can be Christian, in another lifetime, you can be Jewish, in another lifetime, you can be Islamic.
So all this kind of focus on one particular religion is really sort of misguided.
Why are the people then of these various religions which have cross-pollinated in effect religiously so ardently still bent on killing each other because of the differences?
But that's what I would say is in the first half of evolution.
And in the same way, we identify with our ethnic background or our religious background.
We identify with what makes us separate.
And in the book, I use this analogy that you can look at all of life as a big web.
And this is actually an old Hindu concept, but Christ also talks about it.
And you can think of all of existence as made up of a big web, and all the knots that make up the web or the net are individual people.
But each person is interconnected in this web by all the cords of the web.
Well, in the beginning, when we're just trying to form our egos, it's like we're trying to develop a stronger or bigger knot, you know, the cross-link between the cords.
And thinking about the whole web is too confusing.
And that's when people kind of focus on separateness.
You know, how am I different and how am I better than other people?
No, I think, you know, and it's an interesting thing in a principle in embryology is that I think the term is phylogeny, follows ontogeny, that the development of the embryo follows the development of the species.
And in the same way, I think that the evolution of a soul over many, many lifetimes is sort of reflected in the individual lifetime of one person.
As children, we're all kind of helpless and powerless, and the first thing we have to do is learn to survive and become powerful.
And in the process, a lot of times we do dumb things.
And people who are most likely to hurt other people are males between the age of like 20 and 30.
And so then, but then after we reach a certain level of maturity where we don't have to prove ourselves and we don't have to prove to ourselves and others that we're powerful, then we start trying to understand our place in life.
And then we mellow out and pursue more spiritual endeavors.
That's what is missing for me in the concept of reincarnation.
In other words, we still have to begin as babies without an ego, without spirituality specifically.
And we progress, we get an ego.
We begin to mellow as we age.
We become more spiritual until the end when our ego sort of leaves and we tend to take earthly possessions and say, the hell with this, who needs them?
And people, one thing that's also very obvious to me in doing this research, past life research, is people bring in their level of spiritual progression from before.
And the reason that I'm talking to you today and the reason that I've done all this research and have pursued it is because I worked on all this stuff before.
One, I think that, and another thing that I want to explain, again, based on this kind of research that I've done and seeing how these karmic connections that I've had have come into my life over time, it's very clear to me that we all have a predestined life path.
And in the book, I call it your itinerary.
And before you're ever born, you plan out what you have to do based on shared karma that you have with people and emotional attachments as well as goals.
I've heard a lot of people talk about reincarnation as you are now speaking of it, but I have never heard anybody put forth the theory or the, I'm sure you would say fact, that not only do we reincarnate, but we reincarnate physically.
In other words, we always imagine a spirit, a spiritual soul that we have that may reincarnate, but that it might come down in an entirely different body that has no physical likeness whatsoever to the prior physical body occupied.
But you're saying that the proof lies in the fact that actually we come back looking much like our prior life.
And I have portraits of these people from before and photographs of them now, side by side.
And the physical resemblances are amazing.
And the family groups, I have whole families that are back together again, and I have four or five families that are back together again.
I'll give you one of the more spectacular examples.
In the prior lifetime, I knew a fellow who was career military.
And he married a widow.
And they had a couple kids.
Well, in this lifetime, he's career military again.
He married his wife when she was young, you know, and so he married the same woman.
They had two kids.
The kids looked the same.
Well, then they got divorced.
And the wife remarried, and she's extremely happy in her new marriage, much to the chagrin of my friend, who is the military guy.
Well, when she got remarried and they said that she was very happy, I just had a hunch that I bet you it was the first husband from the past life who died and then I said, please get me a picture of this guy.
But going back to what I said earlier, you're suggesting that your karmic sentence, probably a poor word to use, the karmic life you may have to live may include living with the screaming, screeching bitch of an ex-wife that you divorced.
And by the way, one thing I'd like to mention, too, is that's where the Buddhists, I think, have it a little wrong, where they say that to be happy, you have to get rid of desire.
Really, desire is what leads you along your karmic path.
And falling in love with people, you fall in love with people because you're supposed to fall in love with them because you're supposed to spend time with them.
And so really, desire is a key tool of karma.
And if you even think about it, the people who try to seek enlightenment, that's because they desire enlightenment.
What we attribute to raging hormones when we're young may actually be more attributable to something that we have to do in this lifetime with somebody.
All right.
Hold on, doctor.
Oh, they are special, these women in our lives, aren't they?
I'm Art Bell.
Dr. Walter Semcue is my guest.
We're talking about reincarnation.
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Reincarnation?
I'm Art Bell and my guest is Dr. Walter Semcue.
And he doesn't suggest that reincarnation may be a fact.
He says it is a fact, and actually, he's got the visual proof.
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Assuming there's life like ours on other planets in this universe, do you think they too might be looking for this God particle or this question of who are we?
How did we get here?
Or do you think they even have the answer right?
If they're sentient, intelligent beings, I have no doubt in my mind they're asking the same questions that we're asking.
And the day you find a being that's not looking is the day you probably found God.
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Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from November 24th, 1999.
And Dr. Semkew has, using public records and historical archives, actually tracked down documentation and portraits of deceased people who he says are now alive again.
So this is not sort of an idle conversation about reincarnation.
Yeah, so it's going to be kind of an uphill task because a lot of these people don't believe in reincarnation.
And one thing I would like to do in the future is, you know, like how in the movie What Dreams May Come, they show how the couple comes back and reincarnates, but it really kind of stops with them just coming back.
What I'd like to do is write a screenplay where I show in detail how this whole karmic group from before is back now and how all the karma plays out.
And what I can do is use the same actors from one lifetime to another, but use different names, fictitious names for this lifetime.
I can use the real names from the last lifetime, use fictitious names for this lifetime, and this way I can kind of show how it really works based on actual evidence, not just somebody's idea or fantasy.
If you're Islamic, you'll create an Islamic kind of vision of where you go.
And then after you get used to where you're at, then you kind of have to do some work and learning.
And I think everybody goes through a life review where they see what they did in the past lifetime.
But I think what happens, and part of this is based on reading people like Rudolf Steiner, that we actually have to see what we did to other people from their point of view.
Brilliant man, and he has done some real jaw-dropping research on past lives.
In other words, he has done regressive hypnosis and has come up, Doctor, with actual facts that he has gone and checked out in different cities about people.
And he has absolutely come up with indisputable proof.
And so I'm kind of a believer in all of this, but I am curious about the process, which, of course, as you said, would call for speculation.
I thought perhaps since you tracked one life to the next, that you might lean toward a conclusion based on your evidence that there is a span of time that passes between incarnations, or perhaps not.
Perhaps, after all, what would account, for example, for children that are here for a very short span of time?
What would account for aborted children?
What would account for the four-year-old that dies of cancer?
Maybe these spans of time are in that arena, or maybe there's a kind of a staging area.
And in that lifetime, he had done some bad things, squandered money, and there were some reasons, good reasons for me to be very upset, but what happened is I sort of basically disowned her, or disowned him, rejected in the past lifetime.
So what happened was we had to be together for a period of time, one, so we get to know each other and appreciate each other.
I just recently got, I'm getting involved in a relationship now where it's, again, a karmic thing because on the first day we met, we were starting to talk about getting married.
Again, it was like an instantaneous thing.
And her name is Nadia.
And if she's listening, I love you.
But basically, we both know who we were in that lifetime.
We were engaged in another lifetime for three years, and we really loved each other, but we didn't end up getting married.
But I wasn't able to know about my ex-wife who she was because I had to suffer, and I never would have suffered if I knew what was going on.
If I knew that this marriage was supposed to be limited to seven years, if I knew that we were just going through karma and it's going to end, I would never have suffered.
Or during the relationship, if I knew that this was a process of karmic payback and that I wasn't supposed to be married to her forever, then I wouldn't have suffered emotionally.
I wouldn't have felt the same rejection.
Whereas now, since Nadia and I, I think we don't have any bad karma.
So in other words, Doctor, the Pope actually boycotted the decision-making session with regard to whether or not a reincarnation would be included within the main body of Christianity.
In the Catholic Encyclopedia, it states that the conflict between the Emperor and the Pope was so bad that the Pope suffered many civil indignities at the hands of the Emperor and almost lost his life.
I'm going to tell you why I think that happened, and let's see if you agree with me or not.
I think that that was basically stripped from the main body of Christianity because of control.
In other words, if people actually thought they had another shot at things and that it wasn't lights out or heaven or hell or whatever it is that we suggest in modern Christianity will occur when one passes away, then how does the church control you?
Without the fear of God, a very frequently used phrase, there is no real control.
The only control is if you have fear for what will become of you after your one lifetime.
And basically, what's even more convincing about that argument is the fact that it's not only been taken out of Christianity, but it's been taken out of other religions too.
Reincarnation is in the Quran, and it's also in the historically Jews believed in reincarnation.
All these kind of powerhouse religions took it out for the very reason you're saying.
Yeah, because if you accept reincarnation and karma, where every person is responsible for their actions and they have to come back and Live through the karma that they generated, then the church can't guarantee you a spot in heaven.
And I grew up Catholic, so that's the religion I know the best.
And basically, the way I see it is you're supposed to follow all these rules.
You're supposed to get baptized, and then you're supposed to go to church every week, and then you have to go to confession, communion, and so forth and so forth.
And if you do all these things, then they'll get you into heaven.
Well, if you accept reincarnation where that scenario doesn't work, then why go to church?
And I'm not putting down religions.
We need religions, and religions do wonderful things.
And we need the structure, and children need that structure.
Families need the structure.
So I'm not anti-religion in any way.
But I think the real reason why reincarnation was taken out of the doctrines of all the great, you know, these three great religions is exactly what you're saying: the church loses its power.
In other words, Walter as a strong ego, and God knows most doctors have pretty good egos, the old God complex thing, would be very unlikely to surrender that ego, to imagine yourself to have been, to be something, virtually something else altogether.
Well, but see, the thing is we do carry spiritual wisdom with us.
And when I remember when I was even a little kid, I told you before, in the past lifetime, I was very metaphysical and very much like I am now.
And I remember as a young child, just like five years of age, looking around and right away asking real serious questions like, who am I and why am I here?
And when I was a little kid, when my playmates, you know, my age or in my teenage years, when they were doing sports or whatever, I was reading.
And I was reading heavy-duty stuff.
And all my life I've been like that.
So you do bring it with you, you know, but it may take some time to develop and unfold.
And when we're building our egos, we're focusing on the knot, you know, making the knot bigger and stronger.
In the book I call it knot consciousness, or you can think of it as ego consciousness.
On the other hand, if you start looking at yourself, if you try to identify instead with the whole web, then you start developing what people would call Christ consciousness, where you see yourself as all interconnected with everything.
And I think a real useful tool is to always think, am I thinking in ego consciousness where I'm thinking of myself, or am I thinking in web consciousness where I see myself as interconnected with everybody else?
Well, I think understanding reincarnation is a very important factor.
And I'm very encouraged about, well, because if you understand reincarnation is real, then you're going to be a lot more careful about the environment because when you know you're going to have to come back and live on this planet again, you're going to be a little more careful of what you do.
And I'm very encouraged about movies such as What Dreams May Come and The Sixth Sense and so forth, because those kinds of movies help humanity grow.
And this is sort of if there's anybody in Hollywood or producers listening, you know, I think everybody who creates anything takes on karma for what they create.
And well, so again, going back to your hard research, what else do you think we can conclude?
And I suppose your sample is far too small for you to answer this question yet, but most people who believe in reincarnation believe that eventually you attain a state of perfection that finally allows you not to have to reincarnate.
I mean, he basically can communicate messages from deceased relatives to living relatives, and it's obvious the messages have such impact on the living relatives that you know what he's communicating.
Well, I've seen a lot of research scientists and physicians, I might add, doctor, who say, Boulder dash, all of this NDE stuff, Boulder Dash, what happens to your brain when you die is that the brain, starved for oxygen, immediately begins dying from the outside in, which accounts for the center of light that you see.
And this is all physiological and has nothing to do with spirit or anything else.
And I've seen any number of scientists and doctors state exactly that.
I mean, anybody who's really, I mean, and James Van Prague is actually a really good example.
Well, let me get like a story that I found especially compelling, and it kind of has to do also with another part of the book, which is the astrologic transits.
I mean, the book covers all the reincarnation stuff.
And in the same way that I sort of got into this reincarnation stuff by accident, I got into the astrology stuff by accident.
And over the last 20 years or so, I've watched the transits, and they seem to work.
Well, I went and saw James Von Prague last weekend here in San Francisco, and he was communicating a message from a boy or young man who committed suicide.
My guest is Dr. Walter Simhugh, and we've been discussing reincarnation.
It is logical, isn't it?
Perhaps more logical than other things that have been discussed as possibilities for what comes next or however you want to think about it.
Really is quite logical.
Anyway, stay right where you are.
We've got another little segment to do.
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Assuming there's life like ours on other planets in this universe, do you think they too might be looking for this God particle or this question of who are we?
How did we get here?
Or do you think they even have the answer right?
If they're sentient, intelligent beings, I have no doubt in my mind they're asking the same questions that we're asking.
And the day you find a being that's not looking is the day you probably found God.
You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time, tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from November 24, 1999.
It's about understanding people through the planetary archetypes of astrology.
And you don't even have to have a natal horoscope to use that.
And it talks about the transits.
And I got a boost from James von Prague, actually.
I didn't finish that story, but the young man who was suicided and was getting a message through to his mother through James von Prague said that what she should do is go to an astrologer and see what she's going through astrologically, that she was going through a period of transformation that began with his death.
And basically what I think the spirit was saying is check out your transits, which is what the book is about.
And then it does talk about, it gives all the information, the bottom lines on reincarnation and destiny and free will, and goes into the explanation of web consciousness and ego consciousness.
And you can get it through our website, which is www.plutoproject.com or our toll-free number, which is 888-22-PLUTO.
Well, I can say this, and I don't know if it means anything, but I have, I'm a cat person.
I have three cats.
Some of them are very independent, cat-like, lovable, but very cat-like.
One of them is so close to being human that I really wonder sometimes.
And so there may be a kind of a progression, and that would suggest the possibility that though we don't go back as animals, they may come forward as humans.
There was a listener from Redondo Beach who called about her son remembering things and being with her before there's a psychiatrist at the University of Virginia, if this listener is still listening, who would be probably very interested to talk to your son.
And his name is Ian Stevenson, M.D.
He's actually a big shot.
He's the Carlson Professor of Psychiatry at the University of Virginia.
And his phone number, in case you want to contact him, is 804.
And in Malachi, the book of Malachi, it says, in the last days, before the great day of shakening, that he will send him to us again before the great day of reckoning.
And I somehow seem to believe these days are coming upon us.
Well, if you've been listening to the good doctor throughout the night and you follow reincarnation, reckoning is more or less an ongoing process as opposed to a single sudden event.
What do you have to say about that, Doctor?
In other words, isn't reincarnation sort of an ongoing thing.
Okay, I have a liberal arts degree and a theater degree from a community college, and I'm working in a psychology degree.
And I wanted to ask him about the biological process involved in reincarnation.
Now, I've experienced things where I've actually had a woman come up to me and tell me that she has been searching for me her whole life, that I was her.
I've had contact with her several times where she and a few of her other friends have tried to contact me, and I finally had to call the police.
But I couldn't get out of my mind, and I've been researching precognition, especially the biological process, which I believe is involved, and the precognition, which I believe is tied up with reincarnation.
Now, some background in this is J. Edgar Hoover worked in the Library of Congress as a researcher before he took over any federal agency.
He had all kinds of people come to him to ask him to do research for him.
This is when he was in law school.
This is about the time a philosopher wrote down that it is impossible for the soul to occupy another body.
Boy, I'll tell you, to have somebody come across the ocean from Europe or wherever and to search you out and to find you and to suggest to you what was suggested to that man and then to have it end the way it did by calling the police just wouldn't seem like a satisfactory result in the long term.
I would think such a thing would haunt you for the rest of your life if you didn't at least listen.
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I mean, what we're dealing with is church doctrine after the New Testament was written.
Yes.
So it's basically, you know, the thing is, the way that I would think of it is that the church authorities are people just like you and me, you know, and they're like struggling to make sense of it all, and they want to promote, you know, what was there before.
Although I'm not, I would say that I have a pretty good idea of what I think it is, although I would certainly not say that I know for fact what it is, and quite possibly reincarnation is something altogether different.
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And I include the possibility that we could come back as animals.
And to be the center of an awareness, you'll never know what it's like to be anything but the center of that awareness.
And so I'm thinking that possibly you can reincarnate a worm or a bird or any other form of life, including any alien form of life, and possibly evolve in that form and be a part of the ever and ongoing reincarnation process.
And for all we know, I mean, a lot of that stuff, there's a lot of stuff that's just like intellectual, God, I don't know what the word is, but if you really understand something, you can say it simply.
And there's a lot of stuff out there that is just a lot of intellectualism.
Well, or we might apply Occam's razor and suggest that the most likely thing is probably the one.
And reincarnation, when you really just simply think of it and study it as you have, is to me and always has been the simplest, most straightforward answer, and so therefore the most likely one.
You can get it through our website, and that's financially, you know, because I'm just getting started, and financially, it's much more profitable for us if you order over the website.
He is a physician, regular downtown kind of doctor, MD.
And he's got some pretty unusual views, as you have just heard, on reincarnation.
But again, I would say to you what I said to him, and that is that, and I've really gone through this reincarnation thing and thought about it and thought about it and thought about it.
And to me, it simply seems the most logical answer.
And that doesn't mean it is the answer, but it seems the most logical answer.
And so to me, it probably is the answer.
It doesn't mean it's so.
It's just one man's opinion, or in the case of this show tonight, a couple.
So we're going to say in open lines the remainder of the program.
Generally picking pieces of camel off you for a long time afterwards.
But it's still a romantic notion.
We'll be right back.
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You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from November 24th, 1999.
I kind of tend to agree with the doctor and I think that the progression is upward and upward in spiritualism, upward in karma, upward in every way you can imagine.
And I have you not seen animals sir, that are very animal-like?
I mean, that simplifies the answer, what I'm saying.
But I mean they're very animal-like and other animals that some come so close to human in behavior and personality that they're on that track.
You know what made me think that is, I had a neighbor that passed away and a week after that this is really odd a little kitten came out of nowhere and it went up to me and it stared at me.
I looked at its eyes.
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It gave me a creepy feeling, looked like I mean it was a human.
Uh yeah, you know, it's possible, anything's possible.
But again, I tend to agree with the doctor and I think that we progress and uh, if it indeed is a progression uh, it may be egotistically human to imagine that we're the top of the present food chain but, you know, I think we are.
It's a fairly safe conclusion based on what we know with regard to the planet.
What's on the planet right now.
Not that we know everything and yes, who knows about dolphins?
But generally we seem to be the top of it all, And that doesn't mean that we're that far progressed in our present position as human beings.
But I would think that it doesn't go the other way.
That's just conjecture, but it's mine, and apparently the doctor's as well.
First time caller line, you're on the air.
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Yeah.
Oh, Phil.
Yes.
Yeah, I was calling about.
Have you been able to get hold of that Carlos test today?
Well, you're confused because you won't turn your radio off.
I don't know why people won't listen to me.
It's to your own benefit, folks, to turn the radio off.
I don't know why some people will not listen.
And then when it's on in the background, it is six seconds, actually six seconds or seven seconds behind what you're really saying.
And so it makes you sound, even though I know you're not, I'm sure you're perfectly lucid, but the very best of us sound terribly confused when we have that going on.
Therefore, when you get on the air, if you want to sound lucid, turn your radio off.
It's a simple instruction, and it's one for your benefit, because you don't really want to come on the air and sound all confused, do you?
Two different subjects, but on the reincarnation deal, I have a big moral dilemma with it, personally, because if I believe in reincarnation, then I can't see how it matters what I do, whether I commit suicide, kill other people.
But still, nevertheless, the answer to your question is there is a restraint.
If you believe in reincarnation and you believe in karmic payback, then you don't do things in the present life as though it doesn't matter because you're coming back.
Because when you come back, you're going to come back and you're going to pay the price.
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I understand that part, Art.
But anyway, if I think I just do it once, then I'm going to try to do it right the first time, and that's sort of human nature, too.
But on another subject, there's a fellow's name is David Blaine.
buried himself and then uh... to me no no no that's suddenly king something for me I remember a story about somebody who buried himself.
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Right.
To me, it was the death and resurrection.
But now, that's off on a different note.
I might be on a tangent there.
But if you can get a hold of the films that I've seen, he will do things that just completely astound you.
It appears to be made up.
It appears to be just this guy walking down the street with somebody that's not real good at it with a camera behind him, meeting people that he's never seen before in his life.
And apparently their lifespan, if they have an end to it, is much longer than ours.
And they're parasitic.
Right.
So what is to stop a demon from dwelling within somebody's body and faithfully chronicling every moment of their life?
And then eventually that person dies.
That demon moves on and eventually inhabits another body and impresses all the memories and thoughts and impressions upon that second person where they believe that they've lived before.
You know, the first lie that Satan told to mankind through Eve was, you shall not surely die.
And that takes all the weight out of the resurrection if we just keep living on and on and on.
Usually, I try and follow a kind of a logical progression of what lines I pick up.
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Yeah, because I gave up trying to figure out because I figured I called a couple of times where I was on hold and the phone would just ring and ring and I'd see Ethan Rocky the next one and then you pick up first-time caller line or something like that.