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Dec. 21, 1998 - Art Bell

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Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell - Ed Dames - Remote Viewing Satan

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	That makes a lot of people really angry.
	If you are so affected, if you have small children in the room, which you ought not have at this hour anyway, or you are negatively affected by negative information, which a lot of results, frankly, tend to be from Ed Dames, and from other remote viewers I might add as well, Then you should not listen.
	You should save yourself the agony, and turn your radio off, or go someplace and talk about what the Senate's gonna do with the President's impeachment.
	Because that's what they're gonna be talking about probably elsewhere.
	The answer is, by the way, nothing.
	There's gonna be a deal cut.
	But they'll talk it to death.
	Okay, a couple of things, and then off into the world of... The exotic...
	Let's see, what should we say about where, Ed?
	Ed, what should we say?
	Exotic Polynesia?
	I'm in the Hawaiian Islands, Ed.
	Hawaiian Islands, alright.
	Somewhere in the Hawaiian Islands.
	Here's somebody else who has done what I am doing now, Ed.
	I am preparing for Y2K.
	I'm looking at Y2K, Ed, and I'm saying, this damn thing is real.
	And I am preparing for it.
	I don't know if it's going to be as bad as some say, or Not.
	You and I talked a little bit about this earlier.
	Art, I think that, as I've mentioned before, what you're describing is Y2K and the events, coincident events.
	This Y2K event, strategic event, is going to be preempted by other events.
	And I've said that before and I really believe that.
	I understand that.
	And you have not only You've said it, but you have taken personal steps.
	This is the really important part.
	I mean, you walk what you talk.
	You've closed up your business.
	I know that you've sacrificed financially.
	Isn't that true?
	In the short term, but we feel that we're in a growth industry, so in the long term, I don't think it's a sacrifice.
	Right, but in the short term, you've missed some opportunities.
	By leaving California?
	I'm not surprised, Ed.
	some defense contracts but they were classified and that's that they were
	very lucrative it was interesting that the Defense Department is coming back to
	this arena again and I'm not going to do other work. I'm not surprised Ed you know I'm
	the guy who thought they never left. That's correct.
	Let's give them a little bit of an idea.
	Remote viewing, folks, is something the U.S.
	military worked on for about 20 years.
	That's a verified fact.
	Secretly.
	I think they're still doing it.
	And if they're not, then they're about to be doing it again.
	But I think they've always been doing it.
	It's secret.
	It was secret.
	And then there was a nightline program all about it.
	And that's kind of how remote viewing broke in.
	Remote viewing is... I guess, Ed, is it fair to say you are a disciplined psychic?
	You have developed disciplined protocols that allow you, or anybody, you say, usually, To do what you do to develop and nurture psychic ability that we all naturally have with disciplined protocols and so to remotely view an object, a person, whatever.
	Is that?
	That's close enough for government work, Art.
	I eschew the term, as you know, psychic, but we really can't divorce ourselves from it because we are availing ourselves as technical remote viewers of that same faculty that allows natural psychics, and I'll be talking about a great gifted natural psychic in this show, to do what they do.
	Now, what they do is unfortunately not consistent It is not consistent enough, that is natural psychics are
	not consistent enough for those of us who have very hard and fast strategic intelligence
	problems to solve to be useful.
	We had to have something that was consistent, that worked all the time, and that was dependable enough to use in life or death situations or where a deadly force was authorized.
	If you take a naturally gifted psychic, and I know because I do this program, there are such people, and then you train them in remote viewing.
	Then you've really got somebody on your hands, huh?
	Yes, we do.
	But I have found that many times when you do that, you can really make an all-star, not merely a professional out of a naturally gifted person.
	But they stop short.
	They do not continue the rigor that's required to make them a pro.
	They reach a certain point very early in their training where I, as their instructor, see them perform in an exemplary manner.
	and they look at their results, results that were better than they've ever experienced
	in their psychic lives before, and they quit.
	Right there, they say, this is fantastic, I've got what I need.
	Thank you, goodbye.
	And I'm holding the door open as they're walking down the street saying, wait, wait, you know,
	you just started.
	And they're not willing to...
	To hang in there, to do what it takes to become experienced.
	I am sure that is true.
	Now, in the original program, there was Joe McGonigal.
	He was a natural, wasn't he?
	Joe was and is a natural, yes.
	Is, yeah.
	As a matter of fact, I... One of the... In the days where we employed altered states in our work, rather than technical remote viewing, or what was called, in its predecessor, coordinate remote viewing, our team employed natural states.
	In altered states.
	Mel Riley, Joe McMonagle were two of our nation's first remote viewers.
	And very accurate ones.
	But what you have just said, I find to be credible.
	In other words, when the naturals come to you, they learn your protocols, they expand their abilities, and then on they go.
	It reminds me of a good analogy would be teaching someone to fly an aircraft.
	Once they attain, let's say, a student pilot's rating and they're on their own in an aircraft, the idea with many remote viewers is, well, I don't need to continue my education.
	I'm flying.
	But when the first storm hits, allegorically speaking, or a day turns to night, or something goes wrong with one of the engines, again allegorically speaking, their lack of experience causes them to crash and burn.
	On my program are one of the most loved and hated guests that I have.
	And a large segment of the people out there love it.
	And a large segment of the people out there hate it.
	Actually, hate you.
	And you bring that on.
	I mean, if you read in the newsgroups and you read the faxes and email that people send, when somebody does not like you, there's very little neutral about Ed Dames.
	You either like him or you hate him.
	I'm giving you an honest assessment of the responses I get from my listeners.
	I mean, there are people out there who just hate your guts and mine too, by the way.
	I'm very much aware of that.
	What do you think, what is it about you or what you say or what you do that brings on this vitriolic side of people?
	this this vitriolic side of people. Whether or not whether or not people
	feel that what my company my company's conclusions are factual truthful or not
	what we're doing is telling them something they do not want to hear.
	And that was my experience in the military, too.
	It was my experience at the Department of Defense level, National Intelligence Agency level, and in the White House.
	Don't shoot the messenger, but this is the way it is.
	Thank you.
	I'm going to continue that, too.
	In fact, I'll be talking about something like that tonight.
	It will be very similar to things I've talked about in the past.
	That is what they do.
	They shoot the messenger.
	And they shoot me that way all the time.
	I deal in not just what you have, but what a lot of my other guests have.
	It's like they love to hate me.
	I get these vitriolic ramblings against what I do, despite the fact that I say constantly on the air, I present this to you as an audience, an adult audience.
	You can accept it as entertainment.
	You can accept it as information you believe.
	You can say, gosh, what a bunch of BS.
	You can do whatever you want with it.
	I just present it.
	But nevertheless, they take their high-powered Metaphorically, of course, rifles and put constant bullets through my head for what I do.
	And yet those individuals are free to turn that dial or turn the radio off.
	You are correct.
	The fact is they love to hate you.
	And me.
	That may be.
	I think that's exactly right.
	They love to hate us.
	All right.
	Well, now that everybody, I think, pretty well knows you in the first place and we have explained what remote viewing is, Let me give you a quick review for those new listeners.
	A quick review of what we do.
	All ideas and things in the universe and time-space exist in what we call, in our vernacular, matrix. They exist as patterns of information within this
	matrix. Their template, their identity, sort of the wavelength that they transmit on through time-space,
	that is this pattern of information. In technical remote viewing, we train a person's
	unconscious to search out a specific pattern and to accurately communicate the data that's
	connected with that pattern to conscious From the unconscious, the collective unconscious, if you will, to conscious awareness.
	And then we objectify that data in the form of words and sketches.
	Does this information that you get, Ed, come from the collective unconscious?
	Is that correct?
	Well, I think that it's more than the collective unconscious, but we're really not sure.
	We have working hypotheses, and we have models, but we do not have a theory.
	We'll leave that, as I've said in the past, to academicians to develop a theory, and that's coming, sooner or later.
	But we're not sure if the matrix is synonymous with the collective unconscious, for other technical reasons that I don't want to go into.
	But this is a skill.
	What we do is a skill.
	I understand that.
	Give me your best guess about how you're able to do what you do.
	If it is not the collective unconscious or conscious, what do you believe it is personally?
	What does Ed Dames think?
	I think that mind is unitary.
	That there is only one mind field.
	and that we are all immersed in it. It is sort of like a hologram. The idea of the universe
	is holographic and the mind is also akin to that idea. We are immersed in this field.
	I think the radio waves are always penetrating the atmosphere in our bodies.
	Our pattern, as we exist, is part of this grand pattern.
	So we have access at any given time in a holographic sense to all other patterns, but not just in the moment
	throughout time-space.
	There are theoretical physicists now, I just interviewed Michio Kaku again, who believe firmly in this multiple
	dimensional thing.
	Thank you.
	Ed, do you think that this ties in?
	In other words, that there are other worlds?
	Operating virtually in the same space that we are, but in another dimension.
	One that one is able to access when one remote views, for example.
	In other words, are you crossing those boundaries?
	Yes, we feel with a great deal of certainty that there are other dimensionals and there are other dimensions and other
	intelligences that inhabit those dimensions.
	But because of the way we are constructed, our physical bodies, our mind is interfaced with this physical body that
	has a bicameral brain, and our receivers, our bodies as a transducer, is limited,
	we cannot fathom ideationally the kinds of entities and the kinds of physicality that exist in these other dimensions.
	So we're really hardware limited by our hardware, by our hard wiring, in that we just can't pull it out.
	We're bandwidth limited.
	Our moments, for instance, about a third of a second to human beings is a moment of time.
	A moment ago I was talking about bandwidth limitations.
	That's how our life flows, and in other dimensions it's not quite like that.
	Time flows, frequencies are different, and so we're very limited in terms of understanding these other dimensions, but we very much agree that they're there.
	For instance, you know, as I've said on your program in the past, that we are quite certain that angels, for instance, are real.
	They're real beings.
	But they certainly do not inhabit, at least day-to-day in our working world, where the rubber meets the road, our own reality in this dimension.
	Nor do we, nor do our souls.
	Many people, Ed, believe that angels have the power to intervene occasionally.
	Do you think they do?
	Yes, absolutely.
	They do?
	Absolutely.
	All right.
	Hold on, Ed.
	Unfortunately, we're already at the bottom of the hour.
	My guest is SciTech's Major Ed Dames, somewhere in the Hawaiian Islands, for reasons that he is yet to articulate.
	You'll hear all about it.
	What you've got to say about Ed is he has walked the walk that he has talked.
	I'm Art Bell and this is Coast to Coast AM.
	Mornings, here comes Ed Dames.
	Ed, welcome back.
	Hi Art.
	On a lighter note, I think we should do the lighter notes first.
	I have in my notes a reminder that I promised on your last show, the last show that I did with you, that we would let your listeners know what our PRV results were against these alien photos.
	Do you remember that?
	Oh, you mean the Dr. Livingston The ones up in the northwest?
	Yes, indeed.
	There were some photos on your website.
	The obelisk, right?
	Yes, the obelisk.
	The obelisk, alright.
	That obelisk was faked.
	And I want to tell you how it was faked.
	How?
	It was done pretty expertly.
	It was placed in a shadow.
	The object was a model that was placed in a shadow box.
	Now this is a black, black box.
	Essentially felt lined or very dark painted.
	It was suspended in that box or held in place from the back on a stand.
	It was lit very, very expertly so that all the surfaces were illuminated.
	It was done in a garage or something like that.
	Okay.
	Then, a camera was turned on and allowed to roll.
	Now, there was no exposure until the lights were turned on, on this so-called obelisk, this dart-shaped model, for a number of frames, okay?
	So, let's say, N number of frames, say, oh, maybe a hundred frames of a motion picture roll, you have this lit obelisk.
	And then the camera was allowed to run.
	The film was rewound and the camera was taken into the clearing that you see in the photo.
	Yes.
	And then the camera was turned on again and simply allowed to scan the background.
	So it was a double exposure but only, only in those frames that had both the obelisk and the background on it.
	So it looked like the obelisk had just appeared there.
	It was done in the shadow box.
	Okay.
	How would that translate to videotape?
	If you took a picture of the clearing that you see in the photo itself, and you turn your camera on and just film You would take a photograph of the clearing, pan your camera around, because the film would not have been exposed except for this dark object.
	So you're saying then it would work for still and or video?
	That's correct.
	Okay.
	And the alien?
	The alien was just a flat-out dummy, but there's no way to prove that of course, except because it's just another dummy.
	I mean we'd have to go back and find out where the evidence is.
	But the other, photographing that kind of a model is a fairly elaborate job and it takes
	an artist.
	Speaking about hoaxes, I noticed that you're having Bob Kivia.
	That's right.
	That is a good person to have on, vis-a-vis hoaxes.
	Oh yes.
	We believe that Bob Kivia was actually a principle in actually creating the hoax of the alien
	autopsy.
	Well, he will argue with that of course.
	Bob Kivia called me about seven years ago.
	I got a call from Bob Kivia and I did not know who he was.
	He said he was an alien.
	He purported to be a reporter for a very prominent magazine.
	I gave him two phone interviews.
	I think he was a journalist, yeah.
	Yes, and then he sprung on me that he did not work for this particular magazine.
	He was really a reporter.
	He was really worked for the Heraldo Show and wanted me on the show and he was afraid to tell me because I would hang up.
	At which point I hung up.
	There's a lot of... I'm trying to decide myself what to do with TV.
	They want me to be on Larry King Live.
	And there's not enough life to do all of this, and so I'm struggling with that right now.
	So they were considering having you... wanted you to come on, right?
	Oh, that was a long time ago.
	In fact, They did the program on us anyway, even though we turned down the show.
	Well, what's interesting about him is that he was the producer for the original alien autopsy film for Fox.
	And now he's going to produce the exposure show coming up, I think, on December 28th on Fox.
	I don't want to give it away, but he's got smoking gun proof of the hoax.
	Well, again, we feel that Bob Kiviat was a principal in the hoax itself.
	Fabricated.
	I will absolutely pass that on to him.
	I'm sure he'll have a response to that.
	It's going to be an interesting evening.
	Believe me, it's going to be an interesting evening.
	We have not had the chance to look at the MJ-12 documents.
	I think those are very interesting, and if that is a hoax, it is extremely elaborate.
	I think that rather than, and I won't get around to doing it, we have too much work to do, but I would throw this suggestion out.
	Please do it!
	Listen to me!
	One looks at, it takes a sample of each of the typewritten pages from each of the purported locations, and And does a type check to see if...
	The number of typewriters equals the number of those locations in those documents.
	Because, you know, each typewriter has a certain mark, certain pressures, things like that.
	You can only manipulate that so much.
	I agree.
	So if the number of typewriters match the number of different typewriters, then that's one step closer towards that being not a fabrication.
	I've got to tell you, Ed, I've got them in front of me, and if these were fabricated, it took A staff of people years to do it.
	I'm serious.
	There's no way this could not have been done.
	It would have taken years.
	I'm quite impressed with the work.
	So, I'd love you to target this.
	I mean, this... Look, if the MJ-12 documents are true, we've been lied to.
	Completely, absolutely lied to.
	We've been in contact for a very, very long time.
	And that's a non-trivial matter, so would I like to have you do the MJ-12 documents?
	I would, hell, I'll make an official request.
	Come on, Ed, do it!
	You really want me to do that?
	Absolutely!
	Look, look at the question that it will answer for us.
	Well, we'd have to actually, uh, we'd have to actually come up with... where the... the first... meant that a certain individual was actually...
	...that this individual had in his vision 450 years ago.
	You know, some events are so big in time-space that they're virtually cornerstones.
	Yes.
	Think of a building or an office building.
	We can go in and occupy an office, make some cosmetic changes, break out some walls, make the floor space bigger or smaller, but the cornerstones of the building don't change very easily.
	And so it is with large events in time.
	Some of these events that we perceive as technical remote viewers, and that I'm sure that natural
	psychics perceive, are things that we would not consider generally, given our culture
	and time, to be important.
	If we were to go back in time, Ed, and we think of time-space, maybe this will help the audience.
	If you thought of it as sort of a noise level, you would see occasionally gigantic spikes in the noise level, and those would be events in time, like, for example, World War II.
	Giant event in time.
	The assassination of President Kennedy, big event in time.
	The depression, a big event in time.
	The stock market crash preceding the depression, big event in time.
	And so you would see great big spikes at each one of these points.
	Is that a fair way to look at it?
	It's pretty fair.
	I think it's a good good analogy if you think in terms of a let's say a
	spectrum analyzer or an oscilloscope.
	Look at this, look at a square scope in front of you with all these spikes measuring some
	type of a signal. Well in this case we have the signals for all things in time space and
	yes they are bouncing around and jumping up and down like a normal signal would be expected
	to do. However, the big spikes, they don't jump up and down too much.
	They're fairly fixed and they only waver just a little bit.
	All the noise down at the bottom is jumpy.
	Well, in this case, we felt that this would be a fun project and we had always wanted to, in fact, we were thinking about doing a special study that we termed Through His Eyes.
	Nostradamus's quatrains.
	But we didn't have time, we were looking at some more strategically important and contemporary critical events, but we did want to do something fun, so we took on what we thought was a fun project.
	Which quatrain of Nostradamus was it?
	It's century 10, quatrain 72, and the English translation, and the reason why it's so interesting is because he actually He quantifies, in terms of time, where he is seeing this vision in time.
	1999.
	How long is the quatrain?
	Well, quatrains are four lines, ergo the name.
	Quatrain meaning four.
	Four verses.
	And the English translation of the Quatrain 72 in Century 10 reads, The year, 1999.
	Seventh month.
	Now here, you know as well, I've said this many times before, that as remote viewers, we can get the who, the why, and the how, but we can't get the when very easily.
	It's very difficult for us, as technically remote viewers, to see where we are in time.
	You have consistently said that.
	But natural psychics can sometimes do this.
	So we thought this was very intriguing.
	He is specifically stating, 450 years earlier, that in 1999, the 7th month, something will happen.
	Nostradamus rarely pinned it down that closely in his quatrains, did he?
	Correct.
	That's why it made it very interesting for us.
	So now, we have to, we're not biasing our work with the idea that the car trains are
	anything other than nonsense.
	They could be nonsense as far as we're concerned.
	You could be on drugs or, we also, that's probably not the case.
	But we do know that he's alleged to have purposely disguised many of his visions to avoid persecution
	or worse and use allegory.
	But having said all that, we know that he was locked on.
	We feel that he was locked on something.
	What was going on in Nostradamus's mind when he wrote this quatrain?
	And that's where Spectacle Remote Viewing shines at.
	So we took it on.
	In fact, we gave this to our online CRV tape trainees.
	Where did you, as a matter of curiosity, get the idea?
	Who gave you the idea to view this quatrain?
	Well, I've been inundated with emails and our company's website.
	We have an open conference bulletin board and many people have suggested that we tackle this because we're in 1999.
	Nostradamus was a great, famous psychic who was said to be on many times, so we thought it would be quite interesting.
	Let me read the quatrain to you, the English translation.
	Go right ahead.
	The year 1999, seventh month, July.
	From the sky will come a great king of terror to bring back to life the great king of the Mongols before and after Mars to reign by good luck.
	Well, we were interested in what in the heck is this great king of terror?
	What was Nostradamus seeing in July, what he felt?
	was or perceived was July 1999.
	Well, what about the last part of it?
	The last part we did not tackle.
	We could do that as an antecedent, but I mean as a follow-on project.
	But we were more concerned with what the great king of pyramid, because we felt that it might be
	the either the kill shot solar event, or the use of a Korean nuclear weapon
	that we had forecast for the last year and a half.
	So that's the kind of idea that we had there.
	Let's see if that's what he's looking at.
	To our surprise, it was nothing like that.
	It's a man-made event.
	It is not natural.
	I'm going to talk about that.
	What?
	Yes.
	Now, now, you have done it.
	You have surprised me.
	I thought absolutely for sure that you were going to talk about the son's kill shot.
	Well, I thought maybe that's what he was looking at also, and that we could calibrate.
	Let's say, let's say that he, that as a gifted psychic, he was dead on.
	We could use this point as a calibration point and say, hey, maybe this is the so-called kill shot, or this is the Korean nuclear weapon use.
	Oh, and there's been, by the way, there's been all kinds of dire rumblings from Korea in the last couple of weeks.
	I mean, really dire rumblings.
	We stand by our one-and-a-half-year-old, now one-and-a-half-year-old forecast.
	The next use of a nuclear weapon in anger will be by the North Koreans on the Korean Peninsula.
	Now, a year-and-a-half ago, that was laughable to many people because it could have just as easily been A terrorist weapon, a mafia Russian weapon in the United States, you know, a backpack nuke, special atomic ammunition.
	All right, hold it right there.
	We'll be right back, and when we do, we'll find out what you found out about that quatrain.
	Stay right there.
	Speaking of advances, here we go.
	Ed, welcome back.
	Thank you.
	All right, we've heard the quatrain.
	Involving the seventh month of 1999, and you have already shocked me.
	It is not the sun's kill shot.
	You remote-viewed the quadrane.
	What is... Nor is it a natural phenomenon.
	And nor is it from the sky.
	Although, 450 years ago, this particular event could definitely be perceived as having come from the sky because of the state of science knowledge and natural history knowledge at the time.
	So, it was something invisible.
	But, its effects were perceived by the perceiver, Nostradamus himself, as being the king of terror.
	So, he related this invisible thing that was connected with this particular event to being in the minds of the contemporary people, ourselves, as being the king of terror.
	That's an interesting thing, how ideas are processed.
	It is, yes.
	It sure is.
	This is such a novel event.
	When events are this novel and this big, They are easy for us, as technical remote viewers, to perceive.
	These are some of the easiest things to do.
	They're easy enough for my students to work this, even with intermediate skills, and to be able to perceive what this quatrain is saying in terms of contemporary... So, as we were discussing earlier, in July of 99, there is a big spike.
	Yes.
	This spike is a terrorist attack, right?
	And this is what we know about it so far, and I'll tell you the rest of the information that we need to put together.
	This is a terrorist attack.
	It is a biological weapon on what appears to be Shea Stadium in New York City.
	There's a possibility that it's Yankee Stadium, but our sketches show us more, they look more like Shea Stadium, and it's a very big stadium too.
	So we're saying, the way it looks right now, we have in the month of July, a biological warfare attack on Shea Stadium.
	We know that it's done by three or four individuals who enter the stadium, With the biological agents and disseminate them in the stadium.
	We don't know if they're there when this happens or not.
	It looks like they're stay behind boxes, but we're not sure yet.
	But we do know it's biological.
	It's not high explosive.
	It's not missile launched.
	It's brought into the stadium.
	And it's bio.
	Do you know anything about the nature of the organism?
	Not yet.
	That'll be quite easy to get.
	But we haven't done that much work yet.
	We were fairly taken aback.
	The reason I'm asking about this, Ed, is because Shea Stadium, of course, is in New York.
	New York is extremely densely populated.
	It would be, I suppose, from a terrorist point of view, the only place you'd want to release something like this for maximum effect.
	But there's a lot of people in New York, and they're all listening to you right now.
	Well, this is a stadium, and it does look like Shade Stadium.
	And it is during a baseball game, that we know.
	And there's not a rocket, missile, airborne attack.
	It is brought into and released.
	If it's anthrax, say.
	Then you're talking about not only killing people outright but contaminating the stadium for such a long period of time.
	Decontamination of anthrax spores would require Tons of formaldehyde and exposure to the sunlight for a long time.
	Spores of anthrax, if they're in shadows, or especially shadowy areas and not exposed to UV, can last a long, long time.
	Many, many years.
	That's right.
	So formaldehyde is required to decon that kind of thing.
	But that's still quite a significant event in terms of idea.
	Terrorist attack on our own soil using what we now know to be the king of terror in the eyes of Nostradamus.
	Are you able to discern, Ed, I'm going to ask some obvious questions, whether the impact goes far beyond Shea Stadium or whether it is a localized effect hurting or killing those who are there at the time, making it a place where you can't go for a long time, or does it spread well beyond?
	That's an important question.
	Well, those are other patterns of information that we would have to turn our attention to using the same rigor and same protocols that we did to ascertain the aforementioned.
	We'd have to actually do that.
	This is a lot of work, techno-remote viewing.
	The data is accurate, but it still is a lot of work.
	So, that's a different task for us as remote viewers.
	and it has to be formulated and cued correctly.
	The search terms have to be objectified correctly and we have to go in to look at that kind of information.
	It would be tantamount to perceiving the effects of, let's say, Y2K.
	That's not an easy problem for us to set up in technical remote viewing.
	It might appear to be to someone on the outside.
	Although the date is indeed fixed.
	If Nostradamus was right, then the date's fixed and we can use that as a milestone.
	Which date is it?
	For instance, the Yankee Stadium on the 4th of July is where, if I were a terrorist for maximum impact, I'd go after a 4th of July game.
	Well, the Yankees have a game on the 4th of July.
	The Mets in Shea Stadium do not.
	They're away.
	Well, this is Modern Shades of Black Sunday.
	Do you remember that movie?
	Um...
	No.
	Black Sunday was about a terrorist plan to in fact they did commandeer the blimp that always hovers above games and explode this giant explosion full of nails and shrapnel and so forth over an assembled group watching a baseball or football game actually.
	Well, this is a biological weapon.
	It's a powdery biological weapon.
	You know, a knee-jerk assumption would be that it's anthrax, but we have to go in and study it.
	Now, what do we gain by continuing to study this, continuing to promulgate the information and stand by it?
	We're certainly not going to stop the game in Shea Stadium in the month of July, but there will be people.
	How many have come to this conclusion?
	avid baseball fans will not go to that stadium in the month of July.
	And if this happens, if Master Damon happens to be right and Sci-Techs and our students
	who have also come to the same conclusion independent of us as professionals are right,
	then we have saved some lives.
	How many?
	How many have come to this conclusion?
	About ten.
	About ten tape students, but there are many more of my students who do not post their
	sessions because they are embarrassed, they don't want my critiques because I am a very
	strong.
	I care about them.
	People are going to ask the obvious question, so let me ask instead.
	First of all, you have made a prediction about a kill shot from the sun.
	And that's serious enough.
	to make the same mistakes. All right, people are going to ask the obvious question so let me
	ask instead. First of all, you have made a prediction about a kill shot from the sun
	and that's serious enough. I mean it's if it came, if we had a kill shot from the sun, Ed,
	it would make everything else academic.
	Now, depending on the timeline, if it came before July, what difference?
	Because there won't be any terrorists or anybody at any baseball game anyway.
	We think the kill shot, yes, it would make it moot and problematic.
	We think that the kill shot, again, is somewhere Between 1999 and 2001, a very, very large solar flare that will not annihilate life on Earth, but do a tremendous amount of damage to life on Earth.
	We're going to slow it down for a long time.
	We think that it's equivalent, and it is what is talked about in Revelation as part of the seventh seal event, which we now believe to be prior to 2001.
	You said the seventh seal.
	Was it the sixth?
	No, the sixth seal has been opened.
	Is that correct?
	Correct.
	Which is characterized by a large amount of volcanic activity and other things.
	Especially volcanic activity.
	That's one of the good indicators we have.
	Really?
	There's a whole lot of volcanic activity going on right now.
	Are you aware of that?
	There'll be more.
	Um, a giant, uh, a giant volcano up north, uh, and I'm looking for the story here.
	It just went off.
	I'm sorry.
	I don't happen to have it in front of me.
	I'll dig it out.
	But, um, there have, there's, and down, of course, around Popo in Mexico, what I call Popo, there is, um, all kinds of activity going on.
	There are evacuating areas and blah, blah, blah.
	It's really something.
	So We're in the middle of a lot of volcanic activity right now.
	You know that these prophets, both Biblical and Nostradamus, as a proven prophet, at least in the eyes of many, many generations, these are important to us as technical and moral purists because we can use their work as calibration points.
	We can download all the data that's connected with the idea, but we can't fix the time.
	That is why when prophets fix a time, if they're correct, We can use these as checkpoints.
	Here it is, Ed.
	Art, Ed, have you seen the footage of the recent and still erupting volcano in Iceland?
	Stunning photographs on Fox News and CNN.
	And this is a fax that just came in from Honolulu.
	So, that's going on, and Pobo down in Mexico is flaring, and we've had rumblings in the Northwest.
	So, all of that would sort of seem to be possibly underway right now.
	Well, again, I stand by what was aforementioned.
	It appears to be a fait accompli.
	It goes quite far.
	In looking at the nature of what we call time, these events appear to have been fixed.
	Fixed as large points.
	How we participate in the events is another thing.
	We may or may not have as much freedom as we think, or then again we may.
	I don't know.
	But the events are fixed like cornerstones of a structure.
	Can you do Y2K?
	Just out of curiosity.
	I mean, yes, this would be an event that would precede that.
	But it might not make it academic.
	It could be a fairly localized affair.
	You haven't remote-viewed past that point yet, so you don't know if it's a ELE in L.A., you know, that kind of serious event.
	You're not sure yet.
	Certainly a terrorist attack at Shea Stadium would be a very serious event.
	But would it be an event that would be extinguishing a lot of life, or most life?
	Maybe not.
	You don't know until you remote-view that.
	Are you talking about the Nostradamus car train?
	Yes, sir.
	No, we have not ascertained that.
	All we know is we're dealing with a biological terrorist attack on what appears to be Shade Stadium, possibly the Yankee Stadium.
	And we did not download anything in terms of the quantity of life lost, the extent of damage, and the duration of the spores Being active.
	OK, but we have a number of events that you and I have talked about, including the kill shot, which would affect a great majority of human life.
	Yes.
	A cylinder that supposedly broke or is on its way or broke over Africa, which will go to work on our plant life.
	That's got to be a gigantic spike out there.
	And then we've got another one called Y2K, which has got to be a gigantic spike if Even a portion of what my other guests say is going to happen is going to happen now.
	These are events that will affect Let me reiterate something.
	And then there's Korea, Ed.
	Right?
	Yes, that's correct.
	Except, we as remote viewers are not picking up this thing called Y2K.
	It has not arisen in any of our forecast work.
	The next global catastrophe.
	The next planetary disaster.
	The next North American disaster.
	Those kinds of things.
	We're not picking this up, Art.
	As a disaster.
	And you should, shouldn't you?
	Because if part of what they say is true, telecommunications is going to shut down,
	power grids are going to go off, food is going to be hard to get, on and on and on and on.
	It seems so real right now, and yet you're not picking it up.
	How could you miss it?
	It's directly ahead, and if it really happened, it would have to be a big spike.
	I don't think we're missing it, Art.
	I just don't think it's there.
	You don't think it's going to happen?
	I don't think it isn't there.
	It isn't there as a reality, as an event.
	Otherwise, we would pick it up.
	Well, then you are a very positive voice indeed, at least in the Y2K arena, and it makes you sound positive on something, Ed.
	But what we're saying, Art, is that it's either preempted or overcome by bigger events.
	Yeah, well, I realize that.
	I do realize that.
	Somebody writes on a lighter note here, if it's lighter, Art, look, to have an angel intervene in someone's life, all they need to do is pray to God for an angel's assistance.
	It's that simple.
	Is it that simple, Ed?
	I don't know, Art.
	I just don't know.
	I don't know.
	I think that before the evening is over, I want to talk to you about our sort of our grand finale in terms of SciTech and the Millennium here.
	We're going to go after the greatest terrorist of all.
	That is such an interesting project that we have.
	And to profile the greatest terrorist on the planet.
	Is that the one that's going to perpetrate this deed?
	This is the one that's going to perpetrate a number of deeds, but more importantly, we don't know where this enemy is and the extent of damage that he has already caused and his operating arenas.
	We need to...
	We need to look at his pockets, his strongholds.
	We need to look at how he perceives success, where he resides, what inroads has he made objectively, and what inroads did he think he made subjectively, and what are the observable measures of his success.
	Are you viewing... Particularly his strategies, both strategic and tactical.
	Short and long term strategies.
	Are you viewing what many would refer to as the Antichrist?
	Satan.
	Well, one thing about you, Ed, you don't pick small targets.
	Never make little plans.
	Just sort of a sidebar question here, wouldn't it potentially be really dangerous, assuming Satan is real?
	Now Art, if you are any number of denominations in any number of religions, I think that you assume that Satan is real.
	Yep, but for the sake of a purely academic I absolutely agree.
	If Satan is real, it seems to me that remote viewing him, what he's all about, has got
	to be one of the most dangerous things you've ever taken on.
	That's correct.
	I absolutely agree.
	I don't know if I'm making a mistake or not, but it's already in the works.
	We're going to do it.
	Oh, Ed.
	All right.
	Stay right there.
	Bottom of the hour.
	We'll be right back.
	No offense, but have you lost your mind?
	No, I haven't.
	I think that ignorance is this case and I take exception to the idea that yes, I know
	that I may place myself in peril but all of us are in peril if we do not, if we ignore
	this entity that many of us believe is real.
	But there is peril, and there is peril.
	And the peril.
	Fools rush in, or angels fear to tread.
	I think this is very applicable in this case.
	Yeah, we do.
	But this has to be done.
	I think that Father Malachi Martin would agree with me.
	He was a voice in the wilderness.
	I mean, this was one man.
	Yes, sir.
	I have tremendous respect for him.
	In fact, he's been an inspiration to me.
	He is still here, by the way, and recovering, Ed.
	I know that.
	The lay word, I get questions all the time, and folks, he is recovering.
	He is being totally protected, and that is as it should be.
	He's afraid of another stroke, but he is recovering well, doing very well, and I wanted everybody to know, obviously, when he's back, we'll have him here right away.
	We are mortals and just as angels can see right through us and read us accurately, there are no hidden pockets, so can the darker forces, so can Satan and elements connected with Satan, who read all of our fears, all of our foibles.
	Our ego is perfectly transparent.
	And all of that's there, as Father Malachi Martin would agree with and know.
	And all of those things can be leveraged to destroy us.
	Or they can destroy us as a culture and a people, too.
	But Ed, when you listen to Father Malachi Martin talk about exorcisms, and that is a collision, you know, it's a contest with the devil, is what it is.
	There have been collisions, Ed, that have killed priests.
	That's a fact.
	Killed priests.
	People who are practiced in going after the devil in a possession case.
	And it's hard for me to imagine you risking not just your mortal life, but your immortal soul in going after the devil, because that is what you're throwing out on the table.
	Your immortal soul.
	Perhaps.
	I think in my case that ignorance is a good thing.
	It's not bliss, but it's a good thing.
	And because I don't know how much work I alone or as a group of professionals will be able to accomplish, but if we can do anything at all, that is, what do we think we know about this entity?
	We think we know a lot, but what do we really know?
	I think that's the problem that we have.
	We think we know Where Satan is operating, what battlefronts, what arenas, but we really need to know where the hidden stay-behind agents are.
	that we need to get in the enemy's camp and to elaborate and profile what the strategies
	are long and short term, where he is operating, what he views, I use he loosely, what it views
	this entity as its successes, what it sees as its current successes, those kinds of things.
	You know, you have already told me that you have perfected as best you can what you do
	You know, you have already told me that you have perfected as best you can what you do with remote viewing.
	with remote viewing, and I accept that, but you've also said that you don't really know
	And I accept that.
	But you've also said that you don't really know for certain where this ability or power or realm comes from.
	That you're still working on that aspect.
	So if you go after Satan, you're going and playing in his arena, and you haven't even figured out what arena you're
	in for sure.
	I guess what I'm saying to you is, I don't think you ought to do this.
	this. Well, this is where faith enters in our... It's like you're on his battlefield.
	Oh, but we're also on... we're in mind, we're in the arena of mind to start out with, although
	that may be... that certain things may punch through that into the physical, and we know
	that that happens all the time. But there's a battle up there.
	We're just mortals.
	Let's take a look at that battlefield.
	Let's take a look at the players, because we're not doing that now, the quickening.
	Maybe it's meant to be, but we have children killing children now, Art.
	I know.
	If you look at the arena of history, that hasn't happened that often, but it is happening now in Africa, in the United States.
	In Latin America, children are killing children.
	I was in there.
	Oh, it's true.
	I think that's one of the biggest exceptions, but I could be wrong.
	Oh, no, it's true.
	It's true.
	In Africa, the audience, if I were to actually describe what's going on right now, Ed, they would not believe me.
	I don't think they'll believe me.
	It's absolute, complete anarchy.
	There are taxi cab guys machine-gunning other taxi cab guys every day.
	The newspaper in South Africa, in Johannesburg, Um, or even in Cape Town, is full of nothing but horrible crimes.
	I mean, unimaginable crimes.
	People are being killed for no reason whatsoever.
	Uh, or for a tiny scrap of food, or a dollar, or two, or whatever it is.
	There is complete anarchy on most of that continent right now, and most people don't know about it.
	They really... America's are quite complacent.
	They're actually putting flamethrowers on cars over there now, Ed.
	It could happen here.
	It could happen in the United States.
	But more importantly, I want to know, where are Satan's failures?
	Where has this entity failed, tactically, on a personal level, and strategically?
	Because that's important.
	That's important to know, that an entity that powerful in time, space, and dimensionally, has some failures.
	Let's hope there have been some.
	Yeah, do you ever wonder whether we, the U.S., this country of ours, North America, are we one of his
	successes or failures?
	I don't even know how to put parameters on the idea of success or failure, but we will do that.
	And I'm going to look at the failures first, not the successes, because I think
	that I'm not so sure we're aware of all the failures.
	They may be quiet.
	We may want to look at those things that are quiet and not so loud and noisy.
	Well, Satan is not here to tell us the straight story, so there are many perils ahead for you.
	And it may be that what we would view as one of God's successes is instead one of Satan's successes.
	That's exactly correct, and that's my point, Art.
	We should not second-guess this, because the ignorance would not be blissful then.
	We should not engage in second-guessing when we're dealing with someone who is some theme, some entity, and forces that are associated with this entity that are so powerful and so devious We better take a closer look.
	Just offhand, Ed.
	Just offhand.
	What do you think Satan's disposition would be if he became aware that you were remote viewing him with an eye toward doing battle with or stopping him in some way from doing what he wanted to do?
	If he became aware that you were prying, what do you think would happen?
	I think that there are some possibly horrible things ahead.
	I'm not certain of that, but I do have a lot of faith.
	I'm going to do this.
	War is horrible.
	You and I were both volunteers.
	I don't know if you were a draftee or not, but there are only so many ways to die.
	I volunteer.
	There are only so many ways to die.
	And, you know, I've had a good life, Art.
	Why, you know, it's time to give back.
	I know, but... I think that, more importantly, it's time to leave behind something.
	Shine a light in these dark corners and see what's there, hiding, that may have been a cancer, culturally, or a meme that should not have sprouted to begin with.
	We don't know what we're in store for.
	And our mortal life is really short.
	Even cosmically, almost meaningless.
	Boom!
	We're here and gone.
	I don't know that to be sure.
	That could be true.
	I don't know.
	make it usually that long past 80 you know your your unborrowed time and so
	it's very short mortal life is short but that's not what's on the table here
	that's not what you're throwing into the kitty if you're going after Satan
	really gonna do that you're throwing the whole thing in you're throwing your
	eternal soul in I don't know that to be sure I that could be true I don't know
	what I'm telling you now is the first thing that I am going to be looking at
	and that my team is going to be tasked to look at that's it's on the volunteer
	basis where are Satan's failures especially recent ones within this
	Yes.
	Are they on an individual level that had a great impact?
	That's what I'm looking at, because I think that many of us can see that entity's successes.
	Well, if he notices you looking, it's not athlete's foot he's going to give you.
	You know, it's nothing trivial.
	It's the whole thing.
	Boy, I'll tell you, you had to have gone through a process of considering what you might be risking.
	I did, but I kept thinking, I did, and it was not a comfortable thing, and I'm sure it's going to be increasingly uncomfortable, but I kept Martin, he has been alone in this whole battle against
	forces of darkness or whatever you wish to call them. Numerically, basically
	alone, yes. He's been a voice in the wilderness and I'm thinking why is that
	and I realized that we don't put a lot of stock in things that we cannot see
	and the metaphysical.
	We just don't do it and yet in our fundamental core we are metaphysical
	creatures and we're turning a blind eye toward that part of our existence to
	and putting it all into our material physical dust in the wind existence and
	the material nature of man.
	Audemarie Martin saw something that many of us did not see, an insidious force that could deny us our eternal existence, or at least denigrate it in some way.
	I think he needs some help, some reinforcements.
	That's just my idea.
	At any rate, where did Satan fail?
	Has Satan failed at all?
	Let's outline that.
	Let's profile those failures and let's talk about them on the Art Bell Show.
	You're game.
	What do you think about that?
	Yeah, I'm game.
	I don't know why, but I'm game.
	I'm not comforted exactly by the prospect.
	Have you taken the first steps in this direction yet?
	Many years ago, many years ago, it was against a group of what we thought were Humans that turned out not to be humans.
	They were essentially lieutenants of this entity, and they were not human beings.
	When you remote view these entities, they do know that you're looking at them.
	How many years ago, Ed, was this?
	About 13.
	It was during the military program?
	Yes, it was during the military.
	I tasked my military team to look at a specific thing.
	What we had called...
	In the 10th century, I believe, in Mongolia, there was a monk.
	The Haktaktu was his name.
	This monk had about 10,000 male monks, an army of male monks, and together they could resonate and do things at a distance.
	Very, very powerful.
	It's sort of like prayer, the dark side of prayer.
	And their ideas and their Their powers together, conjointly, could push through time and actually influence other times.
	I found this so fascinating that when we stumbled across it, when we turned our attention toward the Huk Tuktu, it was as if This entity that we later called the Red Road Man, because he had a big red road, knew that even in the 20th century, we were looking back through time at it, and it was still operating from that headquarters in the 10th century in Mongolia, through time, influencing cultures.
	We very much think that Hitler's occult bureau, the Anarabi, was somehow connected with influences When do you anticipate beginning this project?
	This week.
	There's a few things we need to wrap up, of course.
	Yeah, like your life and a will and uh... Actually, I do want to identify the specific agent that We're looking at in July, those kinds of things.
	Here's what a lot of people will say about Lucifer, Satan, that he is the king of lies and deception.
	And here you go into this battlefield with one who would completely deceive you.
	And so you've got to imagine the possibility that you could be Yes, it has.
	It absolutely has.
	a complete deception or you might even imagine that for some time now you have been remote
	viewing complete deceptions.
	Has that occurred to you?
	Yes, it has.
	It absolutely has.
	And I'm relying upon people who are more in touch with their God than I to be able to
	look at the information that we as technicians objectify to be able to sort that out and
	say this is right, this is wrong.
	Because there's sort of a truth button in all of us.
	It's there, we just need to nurture it.
	People know, they can recognize the truth.
	That is a God-given innate birthright that we have.
	And if people are in touch with that, they know it's true and they know it's false.
	I'm curious, Ed, those who work with you, your vice president, those close to you, your students, have you told them of what you're going to do?
	No.
	I told them to listen to the show tonight.
	I have an announcement to make.
	I told two things.
	My target of the week has been this Nostradamus Quad Train, and I have students working that, the TRV Cape students, our commercial students, so they should be listening for that feedback.
	And then I told my employees, who are in the process of moving to the Hawaiian Islands as we speak, to listen to the show tonight because I have an announcement.
	And the reason I said that is because I want them to decide whether or not they choose to participate.
	Otherwise, I'm going to go back and grab a couple of people on the military team, Who I know are very courageous men, and I'm going to do it with them.
	I'm going to rejoin forces with the old military team, and I know they'll take up the challenge.
	So, where angels fear to tread.
	Now, here goes Ed Dames, huh?
	I don't know if angels fear to tread there, but I think there's a lot of men that do.
	Well, the fallen ones, of course, but otherwise, I don't think they tread there.
	Alright, Ed, hold on.
	Good Lord.
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	I've watched the first one.
	I've been kind of afraid, frankly, to watch... because I haven't figured out yet whether I want to do it.
	Because that... it makes me...
	And I don't know if I want to be a participant.
	Do you understand that, Ed?
	There's a lot of responsibility that comes with knowledge.
	Yeah.
	And I, you know, it might ruin what I do.
	In other words, if I really mastered it, Ed, and I began to look at some of the events that you have seen, then I would be an advocate.
	I would move away from being At least a talk show host asking questions into making statements as an advocate.
	And I just don't know that I want to do that.
	That's a very good self-assessment, aren't you?
	I mean, this is a job I do.
	But I know there are a zillion people out there who do want to do it.
	They want that ability.
	And you do have tapes that will teach them how to do it.
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	First time caller line, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
	Hi.
	Hello there.
	Hello.
	Yes, sir.
	You're on the air.
	My name is Tony.
	I'm from Spokane, Washington.
	Hi, Tony.
	First off, I'd like to let you know that I respect you very much.
	I respect everybody I talk to.
	But my question is, how do you feel that you can get through to Satan by simply Channeling him, himself.
	He was created by the channel creator.
	It's not a matter of channeling.
	Don't you feel that you... Hold it, caller, hold it.
	On that one point, it's not channeling.
	Even I would have stepped in and said that.
	In terms of our technology, Satan and you are both patterns of information.
	me, you, the largest dinosaur that ever lived in the Jurassic all have identities as patterns
	of information.
	It is simply that.
	How that objectifies in the real material world where the metaphysical pushes into the
	physical is a totally different thing.
	But where we are in the arena of mind it is all patterns of information.
	We are just turning our attention and our unconscious attention to that specific pattern,
	Satan, and we are qualifying the search, think of a library search, as Satan's contemporary
	failures.
	You want to look at those failures.
	That's what we're doing.
	It's like a library or a database search.
	Okay, okay.
	Again, then, my question also, you see, In the last 13 years, spiritual librations have come up in this show.
	I have had them for 13 years.
	And through my learning of this, the true creator is where you can find anything that you want to find.
	And through that, I don't understand how... Well... Caller, you know, Ed made a pretty good point.
	He referred to Father Malachi Martin.
	Father Martin has encountered Satan in possession cases directly.
	We think that those cases are by invitation, not necessarily, you understand what I mean, the Ouija board or something like that, invitation.
	But what I'm particularly interested in are what are the facilitators of Satan's stratagems, both the unwitting ones as well as the winning ones.
	Who are individuals, for instance, I'm not trying to really interrupt or anything.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm kind of new at this.
	the receiving part of mankind.
	Yep, in other words, Satan's tools.
	Okay, well, Steve, that's my experience.
	I'm not trying to really interrupt or anything.
	I'm sorry, I'm kind of new at this.
	But, um, through the true creator, you can find any information that
	you want.
	Because he created everything.
	Or it, or what have you.
	You're preaching to the choir, and then we have a tool to do it accurately and specifically.
	So, I guess what he's saying is, you're treading into, by the avenue you're taking, by not going through the true Creator God, His God, somebody's God, and going to the dark side to try and profile failures, tools, People that are being used.
	Boy, are you stepping into some strange territory.
	The Creator is in us.
	The Creator is in us.
	Part of the Creator is within our structure.
	We're really not going outside of the Creator for this information.
	The very mind of the Creator is the arena in which we download data.
	What about the very mind of Satan?
	Is he not in us the same way?
	I don't know if he or it is in us, but it's certainly a part of that self-same mind.
	Before I ask my questions, I would like to suggest that we offer some prayers for both Ed and Father Malachi so they won't be out there by themselves.
	To get to the topic I wanted to mention to you, I have this feeling that everything that is going on, you know, in the media, you know, concerning the war, you know, the impeachment process, is really smoke screens, are smoke screens, to cover up a bigger event that's taking place, and to kind of distract us from this bigger event.
	Well, you know though, Caller, Every event that has come along since I've been doing talk radio, every major news consuming CNN constant breaking news type event, every one of them, for years now, has been said to be what you just said.
	A smoke screen to cover up something else.
	Now, not everything can be a smoke screen to cover up something else.
	Some events are real, Ed.
	We pick and choose, Art.
	And there's so much information and there's so many ways to live your life.
	We do it as a culture. We choose as a culture. We choose as a group, as a nation, as a globe.
	And as the times change, things cycle back and forth.
	Well, even recent events.
	The bombing of Iraq with, what is it, 330 or 40 million dollars worth of cruise missiles.
	The impeachment of the President by Congress.
	These are pretty big things, and they should be a pretty good sized spike in the timeline continuum.
	Well, my point is, and it's a very interesting point, that the collective unconscious, or the global mind, or the matrix in terms of technical remote viewing vernacular, terminology, whatever that is has a different idea about
	what's important.
	For instance, perhaps something small that pops up in the future that
	we picked up as a critical node that we may perceive as small may be the seed
	for something very large.
	I mean, that's easy to understand.
	A single individual being born that could change the world.
	The birth of Adolf Hitler.
	The birth of Gandhi.
	The death of Gandhi.
	Those kinds of things are, even though they're very, very small, in terms of quantifying one soul, because of all the billions of souls here, In the course of human events, the meaning is very large, and that's what we're dealing with here.
	We're dealing with meanings.
	Oh, yes.
	And the spikes that are connected with meanings, some of those spikes are very different than the spikes connected with the physical effects and events connected with war.
	Have you viewed your own death?
	No, I have not.
	No, I haven't.
	I'm willing to do that now.
	I was not up until about, oh, a year ago.
	I was too chicken.
	But I would do it now.
	I'm getting older, Art.
	And it's, you know, it's getting shorter breath.
	One day closer to death.
	I think I could handle that now.
	I wouldn't want to talk to my children about it.
	I would keep it to myself.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
	Hi.
	Hi.
	This is Robert, and I'm in Lubbock, Texas listening to KFYO.
	Thank you.
	You're welcome, sir.
	I've got a couple of questions or points of view I'd like to bring forward.
	Okay, we don't have a lot of time, so just go ahead.
	First of all, Art had a guest on his show.
	I think his name was Dr. LaViolette, I'm not positive.
	He's talking about gamma rays.
	That's correct, yes.
	I was wondering if Ed's aware of this and if he's brought this into his factoring
	with the solar shock, if there's a way we could get an idea when the next gamma rays would...
	Well, there would be intense radiation, of course, and that is something Ed has taken on.
	Anything else?
	Yeah, there was an article that came out after the last time he was on the show and he was talking about this.
	There was an article that came out in the paper on the invisible supernova that took place in the year 1250.
	Uh, that they don't understand.
	It should have been visible in the night sky for a year or so.
	It would have been... The only thing brighter than it would have been the moon, and there's no record of it being there.
	But NASA, uh, this is Robert Petrie at NASA's Goodhart Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, says that this may be some sort of invisible light.
	And I was wondering about tuning in on that.
	And then, Art, something about this landing in Arizona, too.
	I wanted to say something.
	All right, well, I tell you what, we're out of time and that's an awful lot to tackle, so we'll try and tackle it, particularly about the gamma rays and the sun's kill shot.
	We'll get to that when we come back.
	It is now the bottom of the hour.
	We'll break and get right back to Ed Dames and your calls.
	I'm Art Bell.
	Well this is Coast to Coast AF.
	Go to the phones again in a second but I think this is an important question for you.
	It comes from Yonkers, New York, Ed.
	I've heard quite a bit about Major Dame's projects on previous Art Bell Shows, and I've seen something about them on your website, Ed.
	However, I've never heard any hard statistics about his successes, with respect.
	Would you please list a few events that Major Dames or his crew have remote-viewed that actually occurred afterward?
	I have no doubt that remote-viewing is a possibility.
	In fact, I'm certain of it.
	But respectfully, I do have doubts about, obviously, your record.
	And so would you care to list things that you have remote-viewed successfully?
	I think the idea of the global economic collapse is...
	It's probably a good one.
	It's a good one because it was unanticipated.
	Again, it was a laughable idea two years ago, but it's no longer laughable.
	The market in this country is all liquidity-driven.
	It's not being driven by manufacturing.
	And Southeast Asia has no economy.
	Latin America has no economy.
	South America and Asia itself are stagnant.
	And we're next.
	And by the way, our markets, Nasdaq, the Dow, they're all going through the roof.
	They're all liquidity driven, though.
	It's scary.
	There's no manufacturing behind that.
	Alright, people need to know, I get papers from you all the time.
	You do a lot of missing child work and that sort of thing, murders.
	I get reports from you all the time on that kind of thing.
	I don't necessarily read them on the air, but I do get them.
	But if you go back To even the cylinders in Iraq, the gas cylinders in Iraq, could you just list some of the other things that you have done?
	We do a lot of work.
	We do a lot of public service work, too.
	For instance, I think in terms of just this nation alone, there was a little girl that was missing from our home in Jacksonville, Florida, Maggie Ray Clifton.
	We told her parents and the police that she was dead.
	That her body was trapped beneath a wire grid, submerged beneath a wire grid.
	And we were going to determine the cause of death and where her body was.
	And the next day she was... We faxed that to Jacksonville and we talked to her parents.
	And I must add, to me too, now.
	Now, when we do something like that, you better be right.
	You better be right when you tell parents that their child is dead.
	And that you're going to find the child's body.
	And that you're working on it.
	So, we do a lot of things like this, and they're very hard.
	I had a guy coming at me saying that he had called the Sheriff's Department there, and they didn't know a thing about you, Ed.
	You got the fax the night before, which was the same time you did.
	I know I did.
	As a matter of fact, I took the time and trouble to call this guy who faxed me about the Sheriff and the parents.
	And I told him, look, how do you account for I got the facts the night before they made the announcement?
	How can you possibly account for that?
	And he couldn't.
	Well, there's a lot of people that work in the Sheriff's Department.
	Things were moving so fast then that they were overcome by events.
	But can you imagine where my company would be if, and this is not a predictive thing.
	This is an intelligence collection operation.
	If we had announced that to a child's parents that the child was dead and the child was not and turned up living, where do you think I would stand?
	Now do you, in terms of corporate risk, you know what that means.
	Of course I do.
	That is really sticking your neck out on a line.
	So that's what we do in terms of intelligence production.
	Yeah, but there are so many things that you should be listing here, Ed.
	The frogs, for example.
	My God, it was what?
	How many years ago now?
	I don't know.
	You told me that frogs and there would be deformities and that frog eggs would begin to die.
	But more than that, as an intelligence collection tool, what we said on your show was the reason that they were dying was not because of pollution in the water, but because Anything that in a neotenate stage, in the embryo or larval stage that is exposed to ultraviolet light will be damaged beyond repair.
	Right, which is exactly what the scientists are saying right now.
	But it took them a while.
	I'm just trying to get to the neotenate.
	I'm just trying to get you to list some... I mean, I've been with you through a lot of your successes, and you really need to list them.
	If you go back into the military program, you had success finding gas cylinders in Iraq, didn't you?
	Actually, that was SciTech in 1991.
	The United Nations approached us.
	These examples are up on our webpage of somebody's internet capability.
	They want to read, right?
	The news articles on SciTech and our success.
	But a lot of people don't have computers yet.
	I understand.
	And so there are so many examples of things that you have done that you really should just sort of tell people.
	When you do a full-on project, Ed, And you have all of your best remote viewers on it.
	What is your success rate?
	It depends on whether it's a predictive study or it's an intelligence collection study.
	An intelligence collection study will be 100% dead on.
	A predictive study will not be quite so.
	But it can be important in terms of saving lives and preparing people for something to come.
	For instance, the Nostradamus Quad Train that we talked about earlier on your show.
	We're not going to change baseball's, Shea Stadium's agenda there, but we may save some lives.
	But it isn't just us.
	It's actually Nostradamus back in 1550 or whenever he had this vision and put it pen to paper was the one that eventually, 450 years later, would have initiated saving some people's lives.
	Alright, the caller before the bottom of the hour asked about gamma rays and Indeed, now the Israeli scientists think that radiation killed the dinosaurs.
	We know that we are irradiated.
	There was this incredible explosion out in space and we were all given a couple of dental x-rays worth of radiation.
	But he wanted to know if the business about gamma rays had anything to do with your prediction with regard to the sun.
	Yes, we think yes.
	Many years ago, in fact when I first came on your show about three years ago, I mentioned that the most interesting predictive thing that technical remote viewers were perceiving in the out years, I also mentioned that all bets are off in 1999, we're pretty close, pretty close, would be something that I turned I do not understand.
	A break in the chain of human evolution.
	That's correct.
	It took us two years to ascertain the nature of that so-called discontinuity and we finally understood that it was what we called a kill shot.
	Perhaps a burst of gamma radiation, perhaps a burst of protons or x-rays or all three from our own sun.
	And that there would be a precursor event.
	We believe now that this very large This very large event several months ago that was detected several months ago, actually it was detected about a year ago I think, that arrived here was the precursor and that the kill shot would happen now sometime between 1999 and 2001.
	Kill shot being something like a solar flare or a burst of radiation from our sun that will extinguish a great portion of life on Earth.
	Perhaps this is what we are calling the event connected with Revelation's seventh seal, where one-third of the fishes in the sea and one-third of life on Earth dies.
	This is what we think we're dealing with, and we think this event occurs between 1999 and 2001.
	All right.
	First time caller line, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
	Hi.
	Hi, Art and Ed.
	Season's greetings.
	And the very same to you, sir.
	From Canada.
	Ed, did you pick up that book, 1999, Who Will Survive?
	So you're the one.
	What's that?
	You're the one that recommended that to me.
	No, I'm ashamed to say and embarrassed I haven't had time to do that, but I appreciate you tipping me off about it.
	Yeah, right on.
	Art hit him as a guest.
	I think I prompted Art through faxes many times here.
	He had them on last year.
	Are you one of my students?
	Excuse me, sir?
	Are you one of my students?
	Yes.
	Yeah, I've been in your chat room and it's a terrible Tim calling.
	All right.
	Many different handles.
	But I'm concerned about you TRVing, Satan.
	I just, I get a sick feeling to my stomach that you're going to be using an example or something.
	You know?
	That could be your body reacting to imagination.
	Or it could be the real thing.
	You know as you're coming in this forum alone.
	But have you talked to Father Martin about this idea at all?
	Maybe run into someone.
	Nobody can talk to Father Martin right now.
	Someone in the cloth...oh, oh, is that right?
	Well, that's right, yes.
	Actually, I do have his phone number, but I don't bother him because I want him to recover.
	Yeah, he's got to recover.
	What Cytek was going to do with Father Martin before he became ill-disposed was to help him with some of his more intractable exorcisms to determine whether or not the malady was psychosomatic, other-dimensional, or both.
	That's where we can be of great assistance in intelligence gathering.
	As you begin to remote view the profile of Satan, We want to profile Satan's activities, particularly his failures.
	As you do that, you will actually come across names of people that are being used?
	We have no idea what we're going to come across, Art.
	Is that likely?
	The first you'll hear about it will be the next time I'm on, if I make it.
	Just saying.
	We do not go into a problem set with any preconceived notions about what's there.
	If we do that, then we will miss a lot of important things, these tangential things
	that may be important.
	For instance, let me give you an example from military days.
	Suppose I was interested in penetrating a biological warfare program in a certain country.
	I might assume that the director of an institute was the one that is in charge of a program.
	If I assume that, then I might miss the fact that there is someone hidden that is actually
	involved in it.
	Another good example, Manuel Noriega, when he was overthrown.
	Manuel Noriega was not the president of that country.
	He was two or three tiers down.
	There are hidden individuals who control that country.
	Manuel Noriega was a puppet.
	After you attempt this remote viewing is the same old Ed Dames that I've always known or the Ed Dames.
	I mean, if you come on my show and you say, you know, Art, I've been wrong.
	I've been wrong about the kill shot.
	I'm wrong about the cylinder Y2K, Korea, the whole thing.
	None of it is going to happen.
	That's what I found out.
	That's the result of my remote viewing Satan.
	Then then I'm really worried, Ed.
	That what you might consider doing is, if you have someone that you really trust, and someone you know is a good human being, and you might want, you could go to that person and ask that person's opinion, rather than rely upon your own judgment, which might be, which you might think is fallible.
	If you don't feel that you can trust your truth switch, go to someone whose truth switch works well, and ask them.
	Insulted my truth switch!
	It's just that... Well, I've got a lot of thinking to do.
	Wild Card Line, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
	Hello.
	Hi, I'm Ed.
	Nice to talk to you.
	Where are you, sir?
	I'm from Middleborough, Massachusetts.
	All right.
	My name's Andy.
	I've got to really applaud you for your show.
	I've been listening to it for about six months now and it's just... It's different.
	I mean, you talk about stuff that's intrigued me for the last 20 years of my life.
	You know, I've had some really strange... Well, look, you're not alone.
	Millions and millions of people understand that there is a lot more to us, sir, than flesh and bone and all the things we can feel and touch.
	There's a lot out there we don't understand, and that's what we deal with here.
	Well, Ed said something tonight that really struck a chord, because when he was talking about the 10th century These, whatever, these lieutenants, you call them?
	Yeah, they were monks.
	Yeah, I was hoping you could elaborate on that, but first let me just get out what I... When I was probably about 12, I saw an entity in my neighbor's house late at night.
	I got up in the middle of the night and walked to the kitchen, and this robed being was sitting on the kitchen counter, who, as soon as I turned the corner, Looked at me, smiled, and waved, okay?
	And, you know, and that was only the second, uh, apparitions I'd seen.
	When I was seven, I saw these light beings sitting on the end of my bed, looking, smiling adoringly at me.
	Um, and then when I was fift- wait a minute, check it out.
	When I was 15, I saw a UFO, triangular-shaped, um, you know, uh, All sorts of lights underneath it.
	It rode right over our heads.
	I mean, 10 feet above the treetop level.
	Right above us.
	I know.
	Been there, done that, sir.
	Look, I appreciate your call, but you've given us a lot to chew on, and we don't have a lot of time.
	The appearance of Beings, Ed, to people like that man just described.
	A dark robed person, probably on the negative side of things, versus the lighter beings that he saw.
	I would not automatically assume that, Art.
	He did not say dark robed anyway.
	He said robed.
	I would not assume that one thing.
	We just don't know.
	That's the reason we need to penetrate into those other dimensions to assess each one of these.
	Thank goodness we now have a tool to do that.
	Technically we don't need a good tool, but we have to take each one of these events at a time and assess it, and then determine whether or not we're dealing with something that is, for all intents and purposes, and subjectively positive or negative.
	Right, okay, fair enough.
	And the 10th century monks?
	Led by a figure called the Haktaktu.
	was for all intents and purposes a bad guy.
	Very powerful.
	Very powerful indeed.
	You know a friend of mine, Danion Brinkley, repeats endlessly
	we are all powerful spiritual beings.
	But dear...
	I did not feel very powerful when I removed you, this particular entity.
	Put it that way.
	Who was?
	I think you made the analogy a lieutenant of Satan.
	That's just a guess, but I'm willing to stick with that guess right now.
	Yes, alright.
	Well, if you felt kind of not all that powerful a spiritual being compared to what you met up with, whatever it was, Then, how can you possibly contemplate getting into the ring with the king of them all?
	At least, you know, aside from our maker, the king of them all, Satan.
	The biggest, baddest, meanest fallen angel around.
	Well, it's not because of ego.
	If it were, that would be my undoing.
	That certainly would be my undoing.
	As anyone can imagine when you're dealing with that would be the greatest leverage that an entity like that
	Agree with you, but but but as powerful a spiritual being as you may be if you lock horns
	Punintended I suppose You know I'm I'm not a great judge of these things, but
	hold on where's the top of another round I'm not a great judge of these things, but you lock horns with that one, and if I had money to put down on a contest...
	I don't know that it would be on air.
	Even with a great big number spread.
	The devil went down to Georgia.
	He was looking for a soul to steal.
	He was in a bind because he was way behind and he was willing to make a deal.
	When he came across this young man sawing on a fiddle and playing it hot.
	And the devil jumped up on a hickory stump and said, boy let me tell you what.
	You just saw it, but I'm a fiddle player too.
	And if you care to take a dare, I'll make a bet with you.
	Now, you play a pretty good fiddle, boy, but give the devil his due.
	I bet a fiddle is gold against your soul, cause I think I'm better too.
	The boy said, my name's Johnny, and it might be a sin, but I'll take your bet you're gonna regret, cause I'm the best there's ever been.
	Johnny, you're awesome, you're always playing fiddle hard.
	Cause hell's open to Jordan, the devil's in the car.
	Back now to SciTech's Major, Ed Dames, the guy who's about to open the door.
	Ed, a lot of people want to talk to you, of course.
	I've got, for example, in front of me I've got another case that you probably don't want to mention on the air right now that you have sent me.
	First name, Stephanie?
	Yes.
	This may be a failure.
	We hope it's not.
	This is an abducted child.
	We get a lot of requests by very prominent police forces to help them.
	I'm sure you do.
	They're willing to work with us, but we choose only abducted children.
	Children that are missing and taken away under... Duress.
	Duress, or the threat of harm.
	Those are the cases that we choose.
	Actually, that I choose.
	As a company policy, and you know, many of these have rewards up to a million dollars, but my policy is that no officer or employee of SciTech will accept a reward or a bounty for work we do in the service of the public, and that's just the way it is.
	But unless we have a ground team, in this case we do have a ground team, but it's a small one.
	We're now hiring a private investigative service to help us I don't want to talk a lot about the case.
	And we've had a lot of problems with this case.
	We've had the same problems that we had as a military team in the Mideast trying to snatch
	hostages away from the Hezbollah and Hamas and other terrorist groups.
	A very, very difficult time.
	I don't want to talk a lot about the case.
	Yeah, that's fine.
	I, you know, I just, I understand why you say you don't like these cases.
	I wouldn't like them.
	It's not the remote viewing that's only the difficulty.
	It's our ground operations.
	If we are not working hand-in-hand with the police, then we have to do it privately.
	And that's difficult because you have trespassing laws that you may be violating, stalking laws that you may be violating.
	And it's a difficult task for us.
	We have to really skirt the law a lot on the ground in the continental United States.
	If we're dealing with a child that's in another country... Things that the law would frown upon.
	That's correct.
	That's correct.
	Okay.
	First time caller on the line, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
	Hi.
	Good morning, Arden Ed.
	Yes, good morning, sir.
	Where are you?
	This is Bruce in Seattle.
	Yes, sir.
	Looking on COBOL.
	A couple of weeks ago you had a caller that mentioned Jane Roberts.
	I don't know if you remember that or not.
	No, not yet.
	Well, Jane Roberts is kind of like the Seth Chronicles.
	He mentioned that also.
	He mentioned that you could take up a book called Seth Speaks.
	Well, actually, I've been a speaker my whole life and when I finally got into Jane Roberts' material, like you mentioned, it really dovetails in great with everything you talk about on the show.
	Probably the two major premises of her works were that thoughts are real and that we create our own reality through our thoughts.
	We see a very nice letter from her husband after she died.
	Oh, Robert Butts?
	Yes.
	Great.
	So you're familiar with her work then, Ed?
	Intimately.
	Great.
	Great.
	And what's your take on it, Ed?
	In other words, did we... It was... the set material, when I was a young man, also as a seeker, like yourself, Bruce, it had a great influence on me.
	It was the first time that I had been presented with a model of existence that was unlike the textbook model that I had become familiar with it. Certainly. And I view it as a
	stepping stone in my own personal intellectual evolution. It was with me too, and I
	was just curious, you know, you know going by the premise that thoughts are real and okay, since
	you got to take this step, you know, as far as remote viewing Satan
	what kind of protection are you taking with you? In other words, you know, what are your beliefs? Friends in high
	places. Pardon me?
	Friends in high places.
	Okay, right.
	You know, I was wondering, you know, how much you're actually, you know, as far as your thoughts, you know, how much power Satan actually has.
	I'm sure you were not referring to anybody in the current administration.
	No.
	No.
	Okay.
	Wild Card Line, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames, hello.
	Yes Art, this is Greg from El Cajon, California.
	Hi Greg.
	How are you?
	Okay.
	I just wanted to say happy holidays to you gentlemen.
	Thank you.
	And Art, the best Christmas gift you could have given all your listeners is something you've done and that was coming back.
	And it's a greatly appreciated thing.
	Very kind of you, thanks.
	Thank you, sir.
	Ed, how are you today?
	Fine, thank you.
	Good, sir.
	A two-part question for you, if I may.
	When in the military, a remote viewing program, did you ever know of anybody, because of the material that they were remote viewing, that actually personally cracked up and was institutionalized?
	Not from the, yes.
	Yes, I did.
	David Morehouse We used to use the Monroe Institute to assess and vet our prospective candidates for the program and there was a young lieutenant who was not properly briefed or actually not properly prepared to go through that course and he cracked up in the Monroe Institute.
	So those were two separate cases in two separate venues.
	One apropos to your question.
	And that leads me to my next question.
	I know it's kind of like beating a dead horse tonight after you mentioned that you were going to remote view Satan.
	I think you're a very credible person and I do have a belief in the things that you do say.
	My only concern is, Ed, is that if you do start to remote view Satan, and I know you do and you know what you're doing, Do you feel that, as Arnett mentioned too, once Satan or this entity realizes that you're watching him, or you and your colleagues are watching him, do you feel maybe that by getting this individual's attention that he may never leave you alone again?
	Yes.
	Alright, we both said yes.
	I think that's a distinct possibility.
	And so then what you're doing... But the again part...
	I am 49 years old.
	How long is again?
	How many times?
	Well, possibly for eternity, Ed.
	That could be.
	I don't know.
	You play the game and you take your chances.
	But I think my threshold personally, and there are a lot of personal things I don't talk
	about, what I am going to do after this show, those kinds of things, how I disappear into
	the night, those kinds of things that you will never know about.
	Personally, I think I am going to be a very good person.
	I am going to be a very good person.
	I am going to be a good person.
	This is the straw that broke the camel's back for me.
	And this is what led me to believe that there is something behind the scenes that is not... If you look for it, whatever it is, you can't touch it or feel it.
	It's something else.
	And something needs more intelligence, needs to be collected on whatever it is that's allowing that to happen.
	And it can't just be called the quickening and drop at that.
	We need to be apprised of whatever that is out there that is causing this to happen.
	And I think where I want to look is Satan.
	And that was my choice.
	Okay.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
	Hello.
	Hello.
	Where are you?
	I'm in Oklahoma, KTOK 1000, Don.
	Yes, sir.
	Yeah, well I want to welcome you back and you don't know how hard it was for me to come to work when you left.
	Sorry about that.
	And how much we love you.
	Thank you.
	Father Malachi Martin, how he is very well loved.
	He's a sweet soul.
	Thank you.
	I can't hardly hear you.
	Well, sorry about that.
	I'll try and speak up.
	Do you have a question for Ed Dames?
	Well, I kind of have to agree with you.
	I don't think I'd bet on this one.
	You realize, Ed, Ed, are you there?
	Yes, sir.
	You realize that Satan and Lucifer are two different entities?
	Yes, sir, I do.
	Oh, well, that's fine.
	I mean, but even Satan and 21 points, and I'd be hesitant to put my money on Ed.
	Well, what are you planning to find out there about Lucifer or Satan?
	As stated, I want to ascertain if Satan has had any failures in conducting his strategy in recent times within this century and I want to be able
	to profile those failures and look at them as attack points for us, as learning
	points for what we should be doing.
	Achilles heels, in other words when you determine what Satan's failures are,
	you then know how to go after him. I'm not talking about going after, I'm talking about
	how we can change ourselves to, I think that's what I'm talking about.
	We'll know more when we gather the intelligence, but how we can change to disallow his strategies from succeeding.
	I want to know what the goals were, and I want to know why he failed, if he did at all.
	Yeah, but Ed, when you examine any mortal being's failures, you look straight at their Achilles heel.
	That is their Achilles heel.
	I would disagree with that.
	Sometimes our failures are blessings in disguise.
	We can learn many times by our failures.
	I have.
	We can learn by our failures, yes.
	I'm sure that's true.
	But we don't want to lose our future as a race because of our failures.
	And I think that something is undermining our future.
	And has been for a while.
	And has been doing it successfully.
	That's my premise, Art.
	Okay, what's for the Rockies?
	You're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
	Hi.
	Gentlemen, good evening.
	Good evening.
	Where are you?
	This is Patrick from San Diego.
	Yes, sir.
	This is an open forum, is it not?
	It is.
	Excellent.
	I'd like to ask Major Dames actually a two-part question and then be allowed to follow his response with my own response.
	It depends on how much time it takes.
	Just do it.
	Go ahead.
	Well, okay.
	Um, just to let your audience know, if I'm cut off prematurely, I would actually like to request to be carried over if possible.
	Well, Nate, look, sir.
	I'm telling you right now.
	I have seven minutes to the bottom of the hour.
	I can only allot so much for each caller.
	The longer we spend talking about whether or not you're going to make it.
	To close my statement, my last words would be something to the effect of, gentlemen, thank you, good night.
	Major Dames, what are your thoughts on MKUltra, and if you're thinking of remote-viewing Satan, why not start with Colonel, I understand now possibly General, Michael Aquino, who's the head of the Temple of Satan and is also in Army PSYOPS.
	MKUltra... I'm...
	Is passé, as far as I'm concerned.
	Long time ago, yeah.
	Everybody knows what it was.
	And Aquino was a captain in the army and was a loose cannon, and now he's out of the army.
	I'd like to read something for you, a brief paragraph.
	No, please don't.
	Just paraphrase it for us.
	Okay, well it says something in the effect of the paranormal fantasies spun by Ed Dames, a veteran of the CIA's UFO working group.
	Can be interpreted as a blind for legal mind control experimentation and harassment of subjects.
	Alright, so in other words, he's accusing you, he's accusing you of being a black op, disinformation agent, if I heard that correctly, and I think I did.
	Well, that's fine.
	That's fine with me.
	I've been accused of being and doing many things.
	Yeah, me too.
	People have to be, you know, people picking truth, they decide for themselves.
	Yeah, and you and I both give them credit for that.
	I really do.
	That's true.
	First time caller on the line, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
	Good morning.
	Howdy.
	Howdy.
	Just one question for Ed Dames.
	Oh, is Roy calling from Austin, Texas?
	Yes, sir.
	Ed, have you done anything recently concerning Amelia Earhart?
	No, we finished phase one, which was locating the wreckage of two major pieces, a wing part and one engine, and we were offered, a sponsor offered to actually pay for our our work, our recovery work. To physically go there? Yeah,
	physically go there, but it would take me out of the loop for a while and our company's
	capacity constrained, so we have to be careful about how we space
	out our work and we you know this one's still this one's still there. We're out
	we're moving our company now 3,000 miles closer to that location in Micronesia,
	so it's a Honolulu is a good jump off point to pursue that rather than Los
	Angeles.
	So we're waiting until we get our offices completely moved here, then we're going to orchestrate that recovery.
	I thought something on the internet the other day from CNN or CNBC, one of those sites, about somebody potentially discovering part of the airplane on some island.
	No, that's Rick Gillespie with the Tiger Group, the international group for historic aviation.
	restoration and this is just a recycle of what they've done in the past. Two unsuccessful
	searches. They want funds to go back for another unsuccessful search on Gardner Island, also
	called, the old name was Nicomora Island. They want to go back to the same place based
	upon some small piece of evidence. We have told them that they're in the wrong spot and
	we agree to disagree.
	Okay, one other question.
	I remember you talking a couple of months ago about potentially there being some sort of a stock market crash.
	What I said earlier last year was by summer of this year, 1998, there would be a global economic collapse.
	Not a stock market collapse, but a collapse of economies.
	And that did happen.
	It happened in Asia.
	It happened in South America.
	Actually, it's still happening.
	It's still happening.
	That's correct.
	Now, the only question in my mind is when all of these external collapses are going to reach us.
	Any thoughts on that?
	As I have said numerous times, as far as I'm concerned, all bets are off in 1999.
	There is going to be a confluence of events, man-made and natural.
	And our heads are going to be spinning in 99.
	It's going to be an interesting year, eh?
	Dig in.
	Dig in.
	That's good advice, I think.
	Dig in.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Major Ed Gaines.
	Hi.
	Hi, this is Xenie from Cape.
	And I had two questions.
	Wait a minute.
	Xenie from where?
	No, Xenie from Dallas.
	Dallas.
	Xenie from Dallas.
	I'm sorry.
	Yeah, my first question was, if there's an event Like say you wanted to see your own child's death.
	Could you actually be allowed to see it and by seeing that could you change it?
	We don't know.
	Okay.
	As far as individuals go, we think the answer is yes.
	As far as mass events, large events, or large geophysical events, we think the answer is generally no, at least in this state of development of mankind.
	Okay.
	And the other question is, Father Moore came on, he was talking about the third secret of Fatima and being dirtiest.
	Oh yes.
	Do you need to work with that?
	I missed that program, and I never got to hear a replay.
	We were too busy.
	Nevertheless, though, you have remote-viewed the Third Secret.
	Correct.
	And the Third Secret is?
	It's actually the third part of Ace of the Secret.
	It's the third part of the so-called Secret of Fatima.
	Which says, basically?
	The opening of what, in Revelation, what is described as the Sixth Seal.
	The opening of the Sixth Seal.
	All right.
	There you are.
	Major Ed Dames, SciTech's Ed Dames, is my guest and we will be right back.
	Your UFO in Roswell was brought down by a gentleman called Wilhelm Reich with a cloud-busting machine, an Oregon accumulator.
	Well, actually, sir, I think that if you're asking at Dames... No, no, I've got a subject for him.
	I practice what he is teaching.
	Well, he's had a definitive statement about Roswell, but if you have a question for him, go ahead.
	Okay, with his travel that he wants to go on now, This, if you could re-root to the research and what happened with Wilhelm Reich beforehand, because I know the travel you're going on is going to be a very dangerous one.
	You'll get a lot of information of an energy field which is causing, our own electrical field is causing the energy field of the planet itself, the Oregon field.
	That's where all our disruptions are.
	That's where our diseases are starting to come from, because each human body has its own aura, its own Oregon field.
	It's all the same.
	It says the same in all the books.
	The Oregon, sir.
	Yeah.
	Okay, you know, I understand what he's saying, but I'm recalling your comments about Roswell, Ed, and I think it had to do with time travel, didn't it?
	We feel that it was a staged event by another race that staged it, allowed it to happen, and then went back and changed it.
	And so, there were physical parts, physical things at a crash site.
	That was a staged event for a while, and then the event was disallowed.
	There was a split along an event line where the event was there and then it was gone.
	But the memories cannot be erased from the people who actually touched physical items.
	So although there is absolutely no physical evidence, nor will there ever be in the future, The memories of that event were still there by many people.
	It's probably pretty easy to understand how much confusion there is surrounding the Roswell event, why nothing makes sense.
	That's one of the reasons why.
	Well, you're right about that.
	Nothing makes sense.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
	Hi.
	Hi, this is Dustin at Lubbock, Texas.
	Hi, Dustin.
	How are you?
	Alright.
	I've got two short things.
	Assuming, you know, you assume there's a Satan, before you go into something as dangerous as that, maybe it'd be a good idea to go into something spiritually good, like assuming there's a God.
	If you remote-viewed God, you might get some spiritual insight.
	Actually, he has remote-viewed the life of Jesus.
	Really?
	Really.
	Ed, you want to say a word or two about that?
	Well, those are pretty private things.
	Each of us has, you know, in our own way, whether through prayer, and of course prayer is no substitute, and it's entirely different than remote doing, and it's far more powerful.
	We all have our own individual experiences with both God and ideas of Jesus Christ.
	But those are pretty personal to me, so I'm not going to talk about them on the air.
	Well, you did once say... I've got some backstops here.
	You did once say... Just like in the spy business, I mean, you don't go out on a mission without having some backstops.
	Having somebody who can say, oh yeah, he works here.
	And yeah, oh yeah, we know him.
	You know, it's somebody on the other end of the phone.
	Well, alright, let me put it this way.
	You did once say that...
	And this is all you said that I recall, that Jesus was a real spiritual being who walked on the earth.
	That's correct.
	So, I guess we don't have to go into it any further than that, but I do recall you saying that for that caller's satisfaction.

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