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June 15, 1998 - Art Bell
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Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell - Hopi Elders Speak - Robert Ghostwolf
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This is Coast to Coast AM, from the Kingdom of Nye, with Art Bell.
It is.
Good morning, everybody.
I'm Art Bell, and if we get our phones hooked up right, and we've just had a disconnect problem, we are going to, in this half hour, sometime in this half hour, We have two Hopi elders on the program.
We've never tried this before.
Unfortunately, we just got a disconnect and we're getting a busy signal trying to get back through.
So, bear with us.
We will have all this connected shortly.
We do have Robert Ghostwolf on the line from, I believe, one of the Dakotas.
We'll find out about that in a moment.
and he'll give us kind of a preamble to what's going to happen.
Here we go.
This has never been tried on national radio before, so anything may happen here, folks.
I have no idea.
First, we are going to go to Robert Ghostwolf, who is out somewhere in the Dakota.
Where are you, Robert?
Hi, Eric.
I'm in the Black Hills.
In the Black Hills of North Dakota?
Of South Dakota.
South Dakota.
All right.
I'm here with family.
It's powwow time.
And we're just all here together.
And I'm going to be talking to some other elders up here, possibly, about getting together with us.
All right.
Would you explain to us, we are about to hear two Hopi elders, and we are not going to give their real names on the air.
We are going to call them Grandfather One, Grandfather Two, and Grandmother Hopi.
And why are we doing this?
Basically, Art, there's already been a lot of controversy about these elders stepping out and speaking like this to the world.
They have had some threats made against them already.
We are taking precautions to make sure that they are basically safe.
I hope that people can understand this.
I also hope that people can understand that these people are not professional speakers or lecturers.
So we're going to do the best we can to make this run smooth as soon as we get the phone lines hooked up again.
Alright, I think we are hooked up.
I believe we are hooked up.
At any rate, that is the explanation.
There have been threats.
It's very dangerous for something like this to happen.
Also, it's quite unusual for elders to be willing to come out and speak like this.
The thing is that we've hit a point in our progression through these changes where it's important to get the news out.
It's important for the children of the world.
It's important for all of us to hear what they have been trying to say now for many, many years.
All right.
Let's see if we can get the hookup going here.
And I believe we're going to Phoenix, Arizona, and let's see if we have Grandfather 2 on the line with us.
Hello?
Hello.
How?
Yes, hello there.
Hi.
I hear you just fine.
Okay.
Thank you for coming on the air tonight, and you are going to give us information, Grandfather 2, and also translate for us.
Is that correct?
Yes.
Okay.
I think that my first question, if I can ask the first question, And Robert, you're welcome to ask one anytime you would like.
Sure.
But I would like to ask Grandfather One why he has decided to come forward, public, at this time.
I don't know.
It is our time to bring forth the message into the world.
It has been taught to us by our elders from way back.
It is our time to bring forth the message into the world.
It has been taught to us by our elders from way back.
That is why I have chosen to step forward to bring out the message today.
There are people out there who are Our leading two lives are there to stop us from putting forth the message, but it is the elders that have taught us the wisdom are telling us to do this now, so we are here to do this for you and the rest of the world.
With regard to what may be changing, earth changes, is the time now very short?
for to the community. I'm a member of the community. I'm a
member of the community. I'm a member of the community. I'm a member of the community. I'm a
member of the community. I'm a member of the community. It is time for the end times here.
That was prophesied and through the dreams that were given to us also.
And through those dreams we are learning that we are getting very close to the end times.
uh... might we ask uh... how old grandfather
uh... one is his age you tell me i don't mean
seven to five Seventy-five years old?
Seventy-five years old.
And how old are the prophecies that we are talking about now?
He doesn't know just exactly what the age of these teachings are and the prophecies.
He says that they have been given to them before Christ.
So they have been handed down mainly by word of mouth.
How does Grandfather feel about the accuracy of the word that has been handed down?
Many people dispute the Bible and whether or not it is accurate.
with regard to hope the prophecy uh... how does he feel about the accuracy of the prophecy
not by john up on date it out uh...
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sixty years of that that that uh... on the agenda of the way by
inside now what do you know
that you can uh...
he says that uh...
from the time when you do more work uh... that she
and from there he had learned that you know he had been carrying this message
mainly the message had been carried forward By word of mouth, the accuracy had to deal with how well each individual that was given the opportunity to maintain the exactness of the prophecies.
They were all given these prophecies, so they all had to meet At least, you know, once or twice a year or something like that in the Kivas where they would actually sit down and go back through that and one person would, you know, talk about the prophecies and if he ever so much as, you know, added something to it or
or left something out, then the rest of the group would know that part of the prophecy is missing.
So they would tell them that you didn't say this one here, or you added this to it.
So that's how this was kept alive through word of mouth, and that everyone had to remember just what the prophecies
were about.
Is Grandfather, or are you and others now having many dreams indicating that indeed these are the end times
beginning to unfold?
Yes, Grandfather. I am not saying that all of this is true.
I am saying that this is a prophecy.
Yes, he has dreamed about these things, and that's how a lot of them are coming about, and they are too.
Robert, help me out here.
Would you be willing to share any of his visions of what he sees coming in the immediate future?
I can't hear you, Robert.
Okay, the question was, and I'll translate here if I have to, would Grandfather care to share any Yes, I do.
Yes, I do.
Yes, I do It wasn't exactly through the dreams.
It wasn't exactly through the dreams.
The dreams were part of the teachings that he knows, and having to understand the exactness
of the prophecies itself.
And, uh, he had to go out and do a lot of prayers.
and uh...
and then he would go and
do this and he was doing this for a whole year and um...
within a year's time he had kinda lost uh... interest in
in the uh...
the giving up of the prophecies to him because he never received anything so he
decided to quit for a while And finally, within a few months, he decided to go back to his prayers.
And he would go out and pray, and within a four years time, he started receiving a lot of information.
So that is how most of his information was received, through asking in prayer.
Could we please ask why he has decided to share it with the rest of the world?
Because this has been something that has not been done before.
So why has he decided to share this with us?
Why did he decide to share this with us?
He has decided to share this with us because he believes that if we share this with others, we will be able to help
others.
Through the elders' teachings and wishes, the elders wanted to let this become public at a time when we were close to
the end times.
And, um...
So he had decided to take this upon himself to, you know, let go of these things and in hopes that there would be a number of people that would understand and realize what is going on and start, you know, praying and seeing that, you know, we are Very close to it, and we are right now going through hard times, and he wanted to set some people aside, their lives, so that, you know, some lives may be spared.
that was going to be my next question grandfather and that is
uh... if you would ask grandfather one whether prayer whether
uh... becoming of spiritual nature can change or will change any of what is coming
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by far for your time
So, uh...
A matter of quick change if you want it to change now and to go and change your life around and do your prayers.
But it will help a little in the alleviation of much terrible outcome from the cataclysm.
There is a lot in store for all of us.
There is a lot in store for all of us and the amount of the intensity of this will be
a lot less if we can all settle down and behave and not be in the way the actions of what
we have right now.
Like we are all being corrupt and that has to be taken care of.
We have to, you know, try to, try to Keep ourselves from being corrupted by anything else from the outside.
All right.
We are going to stop for a moment now for a few minutes.
So everybody relax.
Thank you very much.
It is a great honor indeed.
We have Grandfather One and Two with us.
Robert Ghostwolf in the Black Hills.
And we're talking about Hopi prophecy.
And when we come back, we'll try and press for some details as best we can.
I'm Art Bell.
This is Coast to Coast AM.
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Now, here again is Art.
Once again, here I am.
Good morning, everybody.
We have with us in South Dakota, the Black Hills, Robert Ghostwolf.
And from Phoenix, Arizona, we have two Hopi elders from the Hopi Sinon.
Grandfather 1 and Grandfather 2.
And we're discussing Hopi prophecy.
and we'll get back to it in a moment what you're hearing now as far as i know has never been
done on national radio before
you.
So listen very carefully.
Let's go back to the Black Hills and see if Robert Ghostwolf is still here.
Are you there, Robert?
We're still here.
Okay, good.
And back to Phoenix, Arizona, and Grandfather 1 and 2.
Grandfather 1, are you there?
Grandfather 2?
Let me try Grandfather 2.
Yes.
Okay, good.
What we would like to do, if it's possible, is to ask Grandfather 1 if he can give us any details of what is going to happen here on Earth with this prophecy.
What is coming?
specific details at all?
The end … I don't have any specific details at all.
I don't have any specific details at all.
the land. And the land is a sacred place. And the land is a sacred place. And the land
is a sacred place. And the land is a sacred place. And the land is a sacred place. And
the land is a sacred place. And the land is a sacred place.
And the land is a sacred place. And the land is a sacred place. And the land is a
sacred place. And the land is a sacred place. And the land is a sacred place. And the
land is a sacred place. And the land is a sacred place.
And the land is a sacred place.
To follow the teachings, or to listen and be situated in that place.
The teachings are to be followed and to be understood. To follow the teachings, or to be situated in that place.
To follow the teachings, or to be situated in that place.
To follow the teachings, or to be situated in that place.
The p importantly permits one to learn more about the metaphorical significance
of earths and stars in this life.
So there is everything to know about those things.
A few that he thinks are important things that will be coming up pretty shortly is one thing for sure that we are going to come upon is that World War III, it will take place.
And starvation is also a definite part of this thing where We will hit starvation and the weather change itself is erratic right now and it's not what it should be.
This weather climate itself is actually taking care of the crops already in a way that we're losing it.
That's part of leading us into starvation because the crops will not produce.
Is it so that you were just able to plant the corn up in Hopi Land just a few days ago, like a week or so ago?
Because of the weather?
Yes.
People have just started to do those things, and it comes up, but the winds are drying them up, and then the weather has been erratic, like I said, and it's been very cold, and it's been, you know, actually they get frostbitten.
like it's kind of like a frostbitten uh... effect on it that it
it uh...
it burns it up yes uh... we are having the same thing here in nevada
a kind of a frostbite uh... you are exactly right we're having the same
thing here with uh... things that we have planted in the ground in nevada
as though they were frostbitten uh... but i think affected by the winds as
well yet now these are
three things weather change mass starvation
and the third world war. Would you please ask grandfather if the weather changes
are the beginning of these changes. If what we see now with the weather is the beginning
and of course we're going to want to ask how soon these other changes he thinks will happen.
I'm going to ask you a question.
I don't know.
I don't know Yes, these are the signs of, you know, the existence of the
Lord. And we are going to continue to do that. And we are going to continue to do
that. And we are going to continue to continue to do that. And we are going to continue to do
that. And we are going to continue to do that. And we are Yes, these are the signs of the changes and that also part
of it is right now we are having problems with crickets, which are a part of this prophecy
where they would come in hordes and they will destroy the crops also and that is what is
happening also.
You are having that in Nevada, aren't you?
Yes, we are.
In Southern Nevada we are having that, and apparently throughout large portions of the Southwest we're having that.
Yes, indeed.
And so then these weather changes are the beginning.
Yes.
When does Grandfather think the very serious part of the prophecies, another world war and mass starvation, when will these begin to manifest themselves?
How far away from these are we?
We are from the North, from Australia, and we are on our way to the 2,000 Isle.
We are going to the North, and we are going to the 2,000 Isle.
Well, it's been said that there is no exact time and date for these things, events to take place.
But the year 2000 is a...
I would say that is a close approximation of the time where all of these will start to take place, but the teachings from the elders was that they talked about that everything will happen at once.
When they say these things, they put it in a form that, you know, they say it's going to all happen at once, but it's not exactness of happening at once.
It will happen, but they will, you know, fall pretty much short from, you know, the other following.
It's like a domino effect.
And this is, you know, Well, you seem to say by the year 2000.
the next thing will fall into place you know what they will start to
but you know it'll be within a short time from one another so
uh... this is what uh...
are are are are talking about in the next two years well he seemed to say within the year or by the year two
thousand uh...
has uh... i guess this would be a first question if there is a way to phrase
this uh... is the weather change that we now have
the first domino.
Thank you.
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We just kind of want to stop out there because sometimes it's even terrific, we're trying
to get past the jungle.
But we're not going to stop there.
It's been known that this had happened a long time ago, but in our prior world, it happened
before.
You know, same things that they had gone through.
And the teachings were that we were not supposed to follow in the same pattern and try to keep
ourselves from going astray from our teachings.
Um...
But these weather patterns that we talked about and the cataclysms that will take place are not really set in order in a fashion that Any person could say that, you know, okay, the winds are going to do it this year, and then next year will be fires, and the following year will be earthquakes, you know.
And also, he's saying that it's not exactly his words, that that's the way it will take place, but he knows that these are signs.
And they're readily available.
All the signs are out there.
Anyone can see that, that it is taking place.
And it's only going to get bigger.
Does Grandfather... Grandfather said, other worlds, or other civilizations, and that this has happened before.
Now did Grandfather mean by that, that men have walked on the earth before?
And that great catastrophes like the one we are now talking about came and wiped them out and man started again.
Is that what grandfather meant?
Yes.
Oh.
I have a question if I may.
You may.
There's a lot of talk out now and a lot of theories and a lot of prophecies about these changes having dramatic effects On the configurations of the land masses, that there will be tremendous cataclysmic changes.
Does Grandfather, do the Hopi see this as happening in that manner?
Will there be very dramatic earth changes that will cause the face of the earth as we
know it to change dramatically?
I think that the earth will change dramatically.
I don't know.
the people of the land. So, the land is our property, and we have to protect it. We have
to protect it. We have to protect it. We have to protect it.
We have to protect it.
Yes, the earth changes will take place in such a way that the people of the land will
have to be protected. The land is our property. We have to protect it. We have to protect
it. We have to protect it. We have to protect it. We have to protect it. We have to protect
it. Yes, the earth changes will take place in such a way that the whole planet here will
become a different type of planet because of the changes in itself.
It happened before.
You know, we mentioned earlier that it did happen before that they went through these changes and it was taught that we weren't supposed to go back to the same routine that we had gone through in the past life.
And that was the corruption that we were going through.
What we're going through today, there is so much corruption out there.
And these were the things that led us to these things, and even animals, insects, all of these things will all turn around on us.
And, you know, they're going to just, you know, lead us to the same things again.
So we're repeating history?
Yes.
Even though it can be your own pet, it can go against you.
Thank you.
The animals will turn against us?
Yes.
Already I have spoken to many experts, animal experts, who are saying that animal attacks all across North America are increasing many, many fold.
So this could be the beginning of that?
Yes.
Alright, we are close to another break.
But I would like to ask, Grandfather, if there will be any difference in the way the people in the cities, the great cities of America and the world, Los Angeles, New York, Chicago, will feel these changes, and people in remote areas like Arizona, New Mexico, Nevada, and the Dakotas, where Robert is now.
Will there be a big difference?
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in time up a pile what does she know it he must you know I'm happy but not the
same okay I thought I'm worried more all right I'm I must break in here, Grandfather.
We must take a break now.
When we come back, we will look for the answer to that question.
All right?
Okay.
All right.
Everybody stay right there.
Thank you very much.
You are listening to what I believe to be a first on radio.
You're listening to two Hopi elders, and we are discussing Hopi prophecy, something that has not been done in public until now.
I hope you're listening carefully.
From the high desert, I'm Art Bell, and this is Coast to Coast AM.
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Good morning.
I am Art Bell.
And if you are joining us at this hour, we're involved in the middle of something unprecedented on National Talk Radio.
No question about that.
In the Black Hills of South Dakota, we have Robert Ghostwolf.
In the area of Phoenix, Arizona, we have Grandfather One and Grandfather Two.
These are two Hopi elders, and we are asking questions about Earth changes.
Thus far, we have determined that they are close, that the weather pattern changes are part of it, that weather is due to change a great deal more.
That there will be starvation and World War III.
This is Hopi Prophecy you're listening to, everybody.
In addition to that, we've asked about the cities and the country and massive earth changes.
In other words, changes of the continental locations.
And that would also appear to be in the offing.
We are going to continue to ask questions for as long as we're able.
I'm Art Bell, and this is Coast to Coast AM.
So, stand by.
Alright, uh, what...
Once again, first back to Robert Ghostwolf in the Black Hills of South Dakota.
And for those who have just joined, we are not using names other than Grandfather One and Grandfather Two, two Hopi elders from the Hopi Sinoma.
And the reason we are not using names, again, Robert, is please.
There has been many threats to these elders for having the courage to come out and speak these prophecies to the world.
For various reasons and we are trying to keep them and their families safe and also keep them from being inundated by harassment from people who feel perhaps that these messages should not be shared by everyone in the world, which is not their opinion, which is why they are here now talking to us.
Also, I just got news that our site is down for a little bit.
Your side is also down.
But if they want to get more information on these prophecies, I have a number that they can call and get the books that have at least 200 of these prophecies in them.
All right.
That's 1-800-905-8367.
1-800-905-8367.
Is that a 24 hour?
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uh... to our operators standing on line right now All right, that's 509-465-1606.
It would be, it's odd that your site and my site are both down.
I think it's traffic related.
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uh... i think it's traffic related all right now back to phoenix arizona
and uh... a grandfather one uh... the question was all of these
changes that are going to occur including a world war uh... will there be a different effect in the cities
than there is in the country in the country
Thank you very much.
Are they there?
A different effect in the cities?
yeah in other words uh... will there be more trouble in the cities in america's
large cities or the world's large cities with these changes
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the people of the land. We have to be careful. We have to be careful. We have to be careful.
We have to be careful. We have to be careful. We have to be careful. We have to be careful.
In the big cities, it will affect a lot. A lot. A lot. A lot. A lot. A lot. A lot. A
lot. A lot. A lot. A lot. A lot. How much corruption there will be in the cities. How
much corruption there will be in the cities.
Yes, in the big cities, it will affect a lot. How much corruption there will be within the
cities.
How much corruption there will be within the cities.
And also, you know, the people themselves, you know, have to be aware of all of these things that will take place so they have to change, start changing too also.
But he's not asking anyone to follow him in the way he put himself on the path that he is on.
And he's not asking anyone to follow him in that.
It is up to the individual to make that decision for his or herself.
As to which direction they want to go, because when you make that decision for a choice for yourself, what you want to do with your life, you don't blame anybody else for the actions, for your own actions, what you do.
And if something happens to you along the way, then you're not going to say that you were forced into it.
These are the things that he had looked into also.
That's why he's saying that he's not asking anyone to follow him in that the way he is leading himself, he's only giving out advice that this is what they should do, but they should start changing themselves and having to go back to the old ways of living A simple life of having to take care of themselves from the land that is available to them and from the food that they grow.
Because these are the things that will help you along the way when you come to your hard times.
And so the people must, you know, make these decisions for themselves.
Alright, there are many that I have interviewed, many others, who see the future, who say that our sun, the sun, is beginning to change, and that it is causing some of these changes here on earth.
Does grandfather know anything about that?
He does not know. He does not know.
The places that normally have cold weather will have hot weather.
And, you know, the weather itself is going to get even worse, you know, where the temperatures are going to even rise higher.
And that will, you know, burn up the crops and dry up the earth that nothing will, you know, be able to grow.
But it is true that the sun itself is, you know, being affected by this also.
In farmers' fields around the world, in many, many places in the world, as a matter of fact, even tonight, for the first time ever in the state of Virginia, there is a very complex, what we call, crop circle.
These are strange formations in farmers' crops.
Does Grandfather know anything about what these may be and why they happen?
Grandfather, I have heard that you are a great man.
I have heard that you are a great man.
these unseen uh... pictures of of uh...
The crop circles that have been out there and these are, in his own mind, these are teachings also.
And they're telling us what is becoming of our times and where it is leading us.
And he has had a chance to look at a few of them.
And he does understand what they're trying to put through, the message, in the circle itself.
and it's telling us that we are very close to it and what we need to do in order to get
ourselves back on track and seeing the other end of it, more or less when he says the other
end of it is where you get to see all the things happen and live again for the new life
to start.
Okay, then this is a good question.
We have many strange machines that fly in our sky that we call UFOs.
What do the Hopi have to say?
regarding these kinds of things that have been seen to fly in the sky, what the Hopi may have called
star brothers, who have come from the heavens?
The Hopi have come from the heavens. They have come from the heavens. They have come
from the heavens. They have come from the heavens. They have come from the heavens.
I'm on the planet.
I'm on the planet.
I don't know.
calling it.
This is great, really.
I'm going to go to the next one.
So, I'm going to go eat some hay, get a lay up for my young tamu and put some spoilers on.
I'd like to add a little bit to this from what he just said and this is you know
refraining to referring to the question prior to this one I didn't finish it
out.
He said that crop circles were put there either by outside, like the UFO people there, and he's not sure just who put those crop circles there.
But, to get back to the question that is the last one here.
And teaching from the elders is that, you know, they say that yes, they know about the possibilities of other life forms on other planets.
Because, you know, the old ones, the old people, the old ones way back had the knowledge and the know-how of getting around.
And they have traveled to other planets before, and they know just, you know, how it is out there if there is life on other planets, and they do know that there is life on other planets, and what planets are, you know, are not livable.
and uh...
but uh... the uh...
but they don't know where to act uh...
uh...
the exactness of how how they will be
helping us out or they will be going to get that They just know that when we are getting close to the end times that we will be visited by people from outside there.
And we're not aware of whether they're going to help us or go against us.
But we do know that they have high technology to see what is going on.
We have exactly the same problem with trying to understand the nature of who these beings are.
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a robert ghost wolf in uh...
Robert?
Hello.
Hi.
And grandfather one and two in Phoenix, Arizona.
And here is going to be, I guess, a hard question, but one that I should ask.
I understand that Native elders speak about prophecy through the tradition of storytelling, and I guess there are stories that relate to something called the purifier.
Is there some way that Grandfather could explain to us a story about what the purifier is, And perhaps a little bit of the story.
Is that an okay question?
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The story about that is that we do know that we did have a brother who was sent out, and he is out there.
there and with that brother and from the society of the one horned clan they made a pact that
from the one horned clan and the society and the brother had made that like a law that
of the pure purifying time would come and you know this was already
Uh, done.
It was like a, it had already been done, you know, organized, and it was, you know, established.
Like a contract.
And, uh, that, there, the story is that there will become a time that, uh, that whoever is going to come and you know
to What
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The I'm having a hard time here I
I understand.
It is hard to translate this.
Yeah, this is... Sometimes there are not words that translate to English.
I understand.
Maybe I could ask this.
What is the purifier?
Is the purifier just these... Is it the Hopi prophecy, or is the purifier Something specific?
Is it a comet?
Or is it something from the heavens?
how may we know what the purifier is?
The purifier is the one that is in the air.
The purifier is, you know, as mentioned, is the other brother that was sent forth out to the east.
And this was the teaching that he had.
You know, he was sent out to the east and that he would reach the point of origin where the sun would come up from.
And when he reached that place, then he would touch his head to the earth and then return back to us.
And when this, you know, Time comes at the end of these end times, and time for a purification time when he will return back.
But he is the one that has, in a way, the weapons or the artillery.
And he is the big brother, so he would know what to do and how he would help us.
And how he would go about in having to make us understand.
His job is to make us understand and try to get ourselves to behave in the way that we're supposed to.
And if we don't, then the one from the West will come.
And they are the ones that are going to come with much force.
But he, the Purifier, the one that went to the East, is supposed to be big enough to take on the ones that are coming from the West.
But that is going to become like the Third World War.
Third World War.
Is the purifier.
All right.
He has talked much.
Grandfather has talked much about corruption in our cities and in our small towns.
And I do not know about your reservations, but in our cities and small towns, we have now many, many stories of children going to school and shooting other children and teachers and their parents.
Things that we cannot seem to understand at all.
Does Grandfather have any idea why these things seem to be happening in our society?
we also might want to see if grandmother would like to speak on this subject
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you know in the city to tell them what's going on what you mentioned
yet uh... these are are part of
the the teachings that uh...
you know and the properties that uh...
when we get to the intent you know uh... we're all going to start going corrupt and uh...
and even you know the children because they don't really believe in anything
And even what we're trying to teach them, and what we try to talk to them about.
And, you know, they look at you, but they have a different opinion about these things.
And they don't believe that.
It's hard to try to teach the young ones.
And even grown-ups, even adults, are are in the same situation you know it's not just the children who are in this kind of situation right now it's even the adults who are in that kind of a situation and you know there's a lot of corruption in this in this way and but we do know that these things would start to take place in the school systems and
And all over, where even young children will start to take lives like that.
Because it's just the corruption of the mind from the way things are going right now.
Even the children were good.
Grandfather talked about corruption.
Is it reasonable to ask this?
things that has been caught that uh... in the
they're all going to start turning against their own their own parents
and that's what's happening that's what you're seeing out there
happening grandfather yes we are grandfather talked about corruption
uh... is it reasonable to ask this could this be happening to us also
because we have reached a fantastic level of technology
we have changed from spiritual to materialistic human beings
where our technological knowledge exceeds our spiritual can you translate that?
Yes, he feels that this, you know, happening there, that we're, you know, misleading ourselves
from that, from the material side of it, you know, and walking away from the spiritual
sense of it.
Has this also occurred?
Within the Hopi Nation.
It is occurring, of course, in this country, in the cities, in the small towns, this move to materialism.
But has it also been occurring within the Hopi Nation?
Yes.
It is happening there, too.
Yes.
Do Grandfather's people believe that it is worth stockpiling food and water
or are these changes going to be so big that it simply really doesn't make much difference one way
or the other?
Well, I think the problem is that
the people who are in power
are not able to do what they want and they are not able to do what they want.
So, if you are not able to do what you want, you are not able to do what you want.
If you are not able to do what you want, you are not able to do what you want.
You are not able to do what you want.
So, if you are not able to do what you want, you are not able to do what you want.
So, if you are not able to do what you want, Yeah, he does know that it is known that we should stockpile our goods, our dry goods, and it's been taught from a long time, way back, that that's why we should never forget about farming and how to take care of ourselves because
You never know when it will hit, and that's why they teach us these things as young.
And also, to answer part, the end part of your question, it is worth doing that.
When the time comes, it may not be, you know, It's such a good idea, you know, to do that, but it's worth trying to do something like that, because they say that, you know, the time in their limitation is like at least a month to two months that we will be without food and water, so we need to store away as much as we can for that amount of time.
We have different clans who are supposed to take care of these situations.
About the food items and things like that, there are certain clans that do have that power and authority over that.
but the majority of the people out home, they have walked away from their teachings and
they've walked away from their spiritual side of it.
And they've forgotten that and I guess I could say that they really haven't forgotten it
but they just ignored it.
And now they'll have to suffer the consequences.
I think that we probably don't have time for another translated question before the top of the hour.
So hold on in Phoenix.
We're very honored to have you with us.
Robert, is there anything that you can think of that we should be asking when we come back?
I would suggest that we ask Grandmother if she'd like to speak on some of these matters.
Alright.
I think that that would be a good thing and perhaps we could ask her again about the children or what we can do for our children and then possibly go into what is meant by the emergence of the fifth world and what we're going to.
And also I guess we might endeavor to ask whether Hopi prophecy tells us anything about what is going to occur after the purification, after the changes.
What will life be like then?
That's right.
So that is exactly what we'll do.
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I am Art Bell, and in the Black Hills of South Dakota is Robert Ghostwolf.
In Phoenix, Arizona, or near Phoenix, are two Hopi elders from the Hopi Sinnoh.
we're discussing will be prophecy and we'll get back to it in a moment
back now onto robert goes wolf in south dakota in black hills
Robert, are you there?
Yes, I'm here.
All right.
You suggested that we speak with Grandmother about the problem with the children.
So let us do exactly that and ask Grandmother, if she is there, the same question.
We have so many children now that seem to be turning against their parents, turning against their teachers, and turning against other children.
In fact, killing them.
Some people have looked at our children and they have said they seem like human beings with no soul, with no spirit within them.
what is happening to us here we are
yes Oh.
Okay, I'll try my best.
Well, nobody teaches the children anymore about the spiritual pathways, so they're turning against one another.
The mothers are so busy working, you know, they don't teach their children at home.
So they're being left out and they no longer, you know, get that love from a mother like they're supposed to.
It's really sad to see what is going on out there.
Do you also believe, as we have heard from Grandfather One, that Hopi prophecy Is now telling us the end times are very, very near?
Yes.
Uh-huh.
Yes.
That is true.
Okay.
Robert, anything?
Grandmother, what words can we share with some of the mothers that are out there that are watching these conditions?
There are so many mothers that seem to wonder what they can do and how They can help their children to see.
Would you have any words that you can share with these mothers?
Well, praying.
First is praying.
And you know, to go through that path with the Creator.
We have forgotten how to walk that path.
They need to get on that path to survive.
Okay, that seems quite clear to me.
Alright then, Grandmother, thank you very, very much.
Thank you for coming on.
And I think now that we need to go back to Grandfather, because I want to ask Grandfather, he has talked to us much about of the prophecy of what is coming, and coming very soon.
So it is a very important question, I believe, to pose.
And the question is, after the purification, after the purifier, after the changes, after the war, what will the world be like?
So, could we ask Grandfather that?
And Grandmother, you should hang up the phone so that we can hear.
Okay.
Okay, thank you very much.
Stay. You're welcome.
I'm going to be speaking in the language that I know.
Well, the outcome of this, the purifying time, after that purifying time, the lifestyle will change, more or less.
Well, the outcome of this, the purifying time, after that purifying time, the lifestyle will
change more or less.
Those people or those ones that have been working with the evil and on the dark side
are going to be eliminated.
And only those that are walking on that one path and believing in that one with a good
heart, those are the ones who are going to continue this.
And there will be some, what he was saying, that there might be some people who have minds
that are like the scientists who are like, that can, you know, develop things.
And right now we are not supposed to be taking the minerals out of the earth for any reason
that all, you know, and...
Only certain minerals, but only for the amount that you need.
That's what was taught.
But other than that, we're not supposed to reap the earth and tear it up like that, what we're doing now.
Inner marriage is not supposed to be done.
Only after purification time will inner marriage be.
It's possible that we can start to marry other people in other walks but this is when the people will come together after purification time and all walks that have been spared will come together and one language will be spoken and there will be one law.
It has been talk that say that, you know, it will be, some people say that it's going to be their language, or they say that the Hopi, it's the Hopi language that's going to be spoken, but this is, you know, something that is not very known as to what language will be spoken, but there will be one language that will be spoken.
But togetherness is what will come about.
We're going to come back to what was once before.
What Adam and Eve came upon was the Garden of Eden, where everything will be flourishing.
Even the flowers, the vegetation, everything will be back to normal.
From then forth, you know, we, you know, are allowed to do these things, and we can take the minerals out of the earth to use for a purpose, but not to really destroy it, though.
All right.
uh... we wouldn't be able to keep one of you and all the uh... the what he said
mention also that forgot to
commission what uh...
the uh...
the alters and the trying to have the uh... different society will be
eliminated and all those will be
you know have to be put away because uh... they will no longer have power and authority
over anything so these will be eliminated
will there be a single of power a single authority a single law or will sit uh...
everybody uh... simply understand inside themselves that uh... we are now one uh... it will there be a there are many who talk uh... in our world about a single world government a single ruler is that what grandfather is speaking of but not not not in the fashion that we understand it now what they're talking about the new world order but it uh... it uh...
See, that's more or less in a dictatorial form.
But this is, you know, done in a way that, you know, it's where freedom is in essence.
All right.
Grandfather spoke about World War III.
I would like to be clear about this.
Does he see men killing men, humans killing humans, Or does he just see explosions and fire?
Is that what he calls World War III?
He was a member of the Soviet Union.
their own people. So, I'm not going to go into that. I'm going to go into the history.
I'm going to go into the history. I'm going to go into the history of the people of the
people of the people of the people of the people of the people of the people of the
people of the people of the people of the people of the people of the people of the
I don't know.
to the people of the land. We are not going to leave the land. We are going to leave it.
We are going to leave it. We are going to leave it. We are going to leave it. We are
going to leave it. We are going to leave it. We are going to leave it. We are going
to leave it. We are going to leave it. We are going to leave it. We are going to leave
it. We are going to leave it. We are going to leave it. We are going to leave it. We
are going to leave it. We are going to leave it. We are going to leave it. We are going
to leave it.
you know.
The one that's going to be is the, uh, he said that the, you know, the taking up life, you know, uh, this is, you know, what will take place because it'll be like an elimination of, of, um, you know, good from the bad.
And, and what, you know, he mentioned about Hitler that, uh, Hitler had done a lot, you know, done away with a lot of people too.
And when that took place, he said that many of the people had realized this and they were glad that this took place because it was a teaching that had took place.
And he was trying to teach the people that this is what's going to happen.
So look at it more or less as a warning.
That this will take place again.
A warning of a holocaust.
Yes.
So there will be lives lost and a lot of lives will be lost.
Does Grandfather understand how some lives will be saved while other lives will be spared with so much fire and war?
Will it be, well I guess the question is, will it be Like what we call an Antichrist, which some people think will arise soon in our world, an Antichrist.
I don't know if the Hopi have any similar prophecy regarding one who will come, like Hitler, again.
I'm going to be doing a lot of work on this.
Please apologize for me.
We are on a break now.
If he could finish the answer and we will get the answer when we come back.
Would that be alright?
Okay.
Okay, thank you.
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We have two Hopi elders in the Phoenix, Arizona area from the Hopi Suno.
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we'll resume in a moment we are back now with our guests and uh... we had asked a
question uh... about the purifier about
what we call the anti christ and whether at the whole p have
or understand there to be such a being coming
uh...
Do you have that answer now, Grandfather Tu?
Yes.
He mentioned that yes, the Antichrist, you know, That there is, you know, that he is coming again, but, you know, there have been a lot of people that have, you know, walked away from that, the teachings, and they walked away from their spiritual path, and they, you know, went and, you know, decided to do something else besides, you know, having to walk that.
And, uh, the, the, uh, you know, the, uh, he, he will come in again and that he is the one that, uh, is going to set us straight again on this thing here.
All right.
The teachings are that the Creator itself, what we talk about, the Christ, is the same
thing.
What life that we were supposed to lead, we strayed away from it.
What he, you know, we told him that we would follow him in, in the same way.
Uh, and, um, and if we walk away from these teachings and, uh, then, see, he was the one that was living that and walking that.
And then he gave us a choice to do that also.
And if we disregard everything that was taught to us and we walked away from it, he will come back in and step in and take it over again back for himself because he had mentioned that he was the first and he will be the last.
So this is what will happen.
All right, I have a question.
People are sending me faxes, and this is a fax I have received.
Okay.
Given that we are in the end times and that there will be much turmoil, violence, death
and destruction, is there anything that we, the living, can do to prepare our souls for
the long, long path that we will all walk down after our physical lives end?
We have to be prepared for the long, long path that we will all walk down after our
physical lives end.
We have to be prepared for the long, long path that we will all walk down after our
physical lives end.
We have to be prepared for the long, long path that we will all walk down after our
physical lives end.
We have to be prepared for the long, long path that we will all walk down after our
physical lives end.
We have to be prepared for the long, long path that we will all walk down after our
physical lives end.
We have to be prepared for the long, long path that we will all walk down after our
physical lives end.
We have to be prepared for the long, long path that we will all walk down after our
Our teachings that were given to us, we've strayed away from it, and how we are supposed to alleviate a lot of some of these things.
It's going to be too late for us to turn around and try to walk that spiritual path, because We are taught that we are supposed to be on that path from way back.
we should have been changing ourselves quite a number of years back because it doesn't
take overnight for a person to change, you know, to walk a path that is a chosen path
and also it doesn't take overnight for the Creator to believe in you.
He has to look at you, you know, and your heart is the thing that has to change, and it's not going to change overnight.
And these are the things that are very hard to change on a person.
And so, right now, we look at it that it is already too late to start changing.
Okay, I think that is very clear.
Too late.
May I ask about the kachinas?
What are kachinas, and what do they mean to us today?
We are going to go to the next slide.
these spirits that we talk about are in a sense the teachings but we can't go
into detail of who they are what they are I mean you know because only an
initiated person should know about the knowledge of these but you know
But the only thing we can say is that they are spirits and that they are out there and they have their own home.
home. And throughout the years, our elders of the different villages have been working
with the spirits and making the prayer feathers for them and asking for their power to come
in and bring in the rains for the crops because we don't have any way of irrigating our fields
and You know, we live in a desert area.
This is a chosen area because the Hopi had been known to survive in an arid place.
And Hopi has been known that they would strive and survive even in an arid desert place where there is no water really available.
Uh, for those kinds of things.
So, they ask through prayer to get their crops to survive.
And, you know, this is a strong sense of spirituality of the Hopi.
And it is to these kachinas that you pray?
Yes.
Okay.
They come in the form of clouds.
Would you ask Grandfather this?
Earlier we asked him about the Sun, and he said the Sun would shift on its axis.
There are many who think these Earth changes that are so imminent now, so soon, will mean that the Earth will also change on its axis in response to what the Sun does.
Now the question is, is there anything in Hopi prophecy About changes in the pattern of the stars, because that is what we would see after an axis change here on Earth.
Would the stars look different?
The stars look different because they are different colors.
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he believes that that you know the axis of the earth itself will change also
shift and and And that will cause a great deal of Earth changes itself, also.
And about the stars that you mentioned, There have been a lot of stories about these things and they pertain to a lot of, you know, what happened with the stars too.
And he says that it is, you know, he doesn't know, you know, exactly, but He said that it's true that a lot of what happened with the stars and different things, the patterns, are true.
And now they talk about these things as just stories, like fairytale stories, but most of them are true.
But he doesn't know exactly what, you know, will take place out there again, if that should ever happen.
All right.
would you ask grandfather uh... to give us
some few things that we should all watch and look forward to happen
in the next say eighteen months or a year and a half by
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the people of the land. So, we are going to go and see what is going on. We are going
to see what is going on.
Okay, he says that the, you know, the people of the land, the people of the land, the people
of the land, the people of the land, the people of the land, the people of the land, the people
Dead.
The big earthquake that was supposed to hit California had been altered in a way by the Tibetans who had heard about that and they did a lot of prayers there and they helped in altering the intensity of the earthquake that took place in California.
That is, you know, something that we should look for is, you know, a large earthquake that would take place.
It's going to be, you know, real big that it's, you know, it's going to be devastating.
All right.
We are running out of time.
And I would like to say it has been a very, very great honor.
And you will need to translate once we are off for me.
uh... to have you and uh... to have grandfather one and grandmother on the program this morning and uh... i would hope that someday if we have the time that we could do this again uh... but it has been a very great honor and this message has gone out to many many millions of people and we will all hope that the message is heard and that somebody uh... individually many somebody's will begin to make changes Yeah.
We will pray for this, and I want to thank you for being on the air with me this morning.
So, after we're off, would you translate all that for Grandfather?
Okay.
And again, for all your help, I want to thank you so very, very much.
Okay.
Thank you again for having us on your show.
Thank you, and good night.
Good night.
Robert, we will continue with you if you can stay after the break.
We'll stay.
All right.
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So, what do you think?
Are we going to go back to the way it was?
I kind of doubt it.
My guest is Robert Ghostwolf.
He will remain for the final hour.
The preceding program speaks for itself.
so to robert goes forth in the black hills in a moment now let's go to the black hills of south dakota
We're going to take calls shortly, in just a very few moments, but I would like to simply ask Robert Doswell, well, first of all, thank you for bringing the Hopi elders to us, Robert, number one.
You're welcome.
Number two, I wonder if, as you listened, whether there were any surprise answers for you, and just generally get your reaction to what Grandfather said.
I wouldn't say that there was anything in particular that took me by surprise.
I think it was clear that we have come to a point as we look around and see the events that are already occurring around us every day that we have reached a point where we clearly have to make some very poignant decisions in where we're going to go with our lives and how we're going to live them.
Because if we don't make these decisions, if we don't realize the importance of these And we waver back and forth.
We will repeat a story that we have done before.
Grandfather seemed rather clear when he said that it is too late.
He said that quite clearly.
It is too late.
In other words, it's irreversible.
The changes that are going to occur are going to occur.
I may have misread that.
Absolutely.
We can't turn the path around now, but what we can do is perhaps govern the way we walk down that path and the impact of what we hit.
But as far as changing it and escaping it, there's no escape from the eventuality of the realities that we're going to be experiencing.
There's one more thing, Robert.
This broadcast was heard throughout many nations, Native American nations.
I'm sure that the Hopi Nation as well was tuned in, and I wonder what you imagine the reaction to this very widely heard broadcast will be.
Not so much in the cities where people have listened, but in the Native American reservations and areas.
What do you think other nations and other Hopi will have to say about what we just heard?
I'm sure that we're going to get a large cross-section of reactions to it.
I would hope that one of the things that we can realize out of this, and one of the things that perhaps the people in the nations will grasp out of this, is the importance of coming back to their spirituality and the need of the earth and of the children for us to wake up and to open up our hearts again.
All right, let's try some.
There's one other thing I want to do.
I know that you have two books out with many, many prophecies in them, and there is a number where people can get those books, right?
Yes, they can call 1-800-905-8367.
all about it.
That's 509-465-1606.
All right, wonderful.
And the title of the two books?
Last Cry and Winds of Change, which is like volume two of Last Cry, and in the book there's over 400 prophecies. 400.
Let's go to the phone and give some listeners an opportunity to ask questions.
On the first time caller line, you're on the air with Robert Gospel.
Hello.
Hi, this is Dee from Coon Rapids, Minnesota.
How are you doing?
Good, thanks.
Thank you for your show.
It's very informative.
Sure.
This is for Robert.
I just recently got the Hopi Survival Kit book.
I've been reading through that.
I was wondering if you would know if the elderly Dan Evahima is still alive?
Dan is still alive.
Okay, that's great.
He is.
Okay.
Young lady, what was your reaction in hearing all of this tonight?
Well, I guess it wasn't as much of a surprise because I've just gone through most of the book of the Hopi Survival Kit and I recommend that to everybody in the audience to read that.
It's really kind of sad.
It really explains the Hopi tribe and it really gives a good background of it.
I don't know.
It's really informative, even more so.
It's amazing how the Creator and who they say Masa, it just really goes along with Christian beliefs.
It is, and as a matter of fact, yes.
I've already had several faxes.
Robert, it's true.
As you listened, if you listened carefully, so much of what Grandfather said has a parallel, a correlation, in the Bible.
Yes.
Did you catch that?
Yes, and I think if we go back to the sources of a lot of the information and stories that are in the Bible, we go back to a time where people more or less had more of a commonality between them.
There's comparisons that are comparable between many of the Chaldean understandings and their understandings of the stars.
And the Native American understandings of the stars and the maps and events that will happen, and the same thing in the Mayan, which goes back again to we are truly all one.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Robert Ghostwolf.
Hi.
Hello.
Hello there.
How are you doing tonight?
Okay, sir.
I appreciate being on.
This is Gene from Logan.
Yes, sir.
Utah, a KVNU country.
Right.
I very much appreciate your book, The Quickening.
It was great.
Thank you.
I'm curious to know from Robert if he knows or cares to comment anything on a white Indian tribe down in Central South America.
There's supposedly a very wise chief among them.
Do you know anything of that, Robert?
Or of tribes in South America generally?
I believe that what we're referring to is a people known as the Chicagoans.
Yes.
And these are people who were very involved All right.
Remember to stay good and close to the phone yourself, Robert.
people and goes back to stories of the
no profit and these people live in guatemala
that's really all i would want to say about it right now because it's a whole
conversation that would deserve much more time to explain so it could be understood
remember to say good and close to the phone yourself robert uh... what most of the rockies you're on the road robert
goes full-time Hello.
Hi, Art, and hi, Robert.
Hi.
This is Bonnie from Spokane, Washington.
Yes.
And there is a couple of things that have happened today.
First of all... Do the wild thing at 702-727-1295.
For years, has never been able to get through, so I was meant... Well, I'm terribly, terribly sorry that you didn't get through until now, but we've got you, so anyway, go ahead.
Okay, first of all, Robert, I wanted to tell you something that happened today here in Spokane.
We had a double rainbow, and I have never seen that.
I called an elderly lady that I know that's 83.
She said she had never seen a double rainbow.
Just four days ago, we had a hive of bees.
A black cloud come over our place.
The bees went into the old house, which is 100 years old.
I live on a 160 acre farm north of Spokane.
And this type of bees came and it went into the house.
Now several things have happened on this farm.
My granddaughters are six generations.
We have seen the circles in the crops.
My fish have been going crazy, bouncing off the side of their tank.
Our alfalfa has been dry.
The temperature here is 15 degrees lower than normal.
And I just wonder, and I do have a grandchild that is Native American and I have a grandchild
that lives on the same farm that has special needs.
And the Native Americans evidently used to call our little area here Hungry Hollow.
I feel that I was meant to be here.
What can I do besides teaching my granddaughters the love and respect and the spirituality that I feel I've been called and I don't know what that calling is for?
All right.
I'm going to answer that in a story and I'm going to try to make the story short.
Thank you.
There's a story about one day the sun was having an argument with the north wind and the north wind said, I bet you that I can make this man take his coat off quicker than you can in the sunset.
Go ahead and do your best.
So the wind came along and blew and blew and blew and it got colder and colder and colder and the man turned around and he kept drawing the coat tighter and tighter around and Finally, he got so cold he just went under a tree and fell
asleep with the coat on.
The wind kept blowing and finally the wind just got tired and gave up.
The sun just sat there watching, shining like it does, doing nothing.
It just kept shining and the clouds went away and it got warmer and warmer and warmer.
The sun was just shining and the man took off his coat.
So all you have to do is keep shining.
Yeah, that's a good answer.
Wild Card Line, you're on the air with Robert Goswolf.
Good morning.
Good morning.
Okay, you're going to have to speak up good and loud for us.
Good morning from San Francisco, KSFO.
There you are.
This is Nancy in San Francisco.
Yes, Nancy.
And I also feel the same way because I try to get through every day last week and I'm so happy to be here because it's an honor to have Mr. Goswolf there and also the elders.
It was a sacred moment, very important, and I wanted to share a vision I had and then ask a question.
Sure.
I had a vision 14 days ago, and it was like I was kind of becoming awake, and I saw this vision of everything that Art has talked about in the last week, and it was like the end was coming, and it was very troublesome.
And then there was a huge delta wing UFO the size of a football field.
And then there were flying saucers around it.
And then to the west sky there was like a hologram in the sky which was a crop circle as described in Linda Moulton Howe's book, Glimpses of Other Realities.
And then in the middle there was a hologram in the sky which was a Star of David type of crop circle that's in her book.
And the important thing was, to the left of that, there was a vision of, I think it was, Ramses II, sitting on a tablet.
And then I asked, what does that mean?
And it was like, I am the gateway to the parallel universe, which is pure spirit.
And I woke up and I thought, you know, that was a very interesting I thought and it wasn't a dream but it was something I needed to share with other people and so I don't know whether or not any of the tribes go back as far as the Aztecs or the Pyramids or in their legends they have spoken about any of the pharaohs because I did a little research and the two things that refer to those sort of experiences are in Daniel
The second, and it says, but there is a God in heaven that revealeth secrets and maketh them known.
Okay, ma'am, we are very short on time.
To the King Nebuchadnezzar, which shall be in the latter days, thy dream and the visions of thy head upon thy bed.
And then last night I had a horrible dream of a plate shift in San Francisco in the Marina District, and I was so frightened, and I don't dream normally.
So I just wanted to ask a question of you.
Whether or not their folklore or their legends or things they pass on go back to the pyramids and if that could be tied in?
Well, we have to understand that a lot of the pyramids were actually built by the Native American people.
Also, if we go back through history, and if we go back through Native American history, or Mayan history, or Aztec history, or Hopi history, we'll understand that the colonies in Egypt were actually developed by the people that came from here.
from Atlantis, so we look at it from that point of view, and these kinds of visions are happening with a lot more frequency right now because the wisdom is being opened up, the Earth's wisdom is being opened up, the secrets are being revealed, because this is the year that the wolf will howl, the wolf will sing its song.
Grandfather was very clear on one other thing, Robert, and that was And it really stuck out in the interview, and that was that there have been others many times before.
In other words, there have been other civilizations, others that have come and gone before us.
And they were much grander than us, for the most part, in many ways.
And the evidences of them and their technology, and also, like Grandfather said, we had means of traveling back and forth to the stars.
We went to other worlds then, and this is a knowledge that basically we're starting to find out was global.
So yeah, we're not new, and neither is this movie or this experience.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Robert Ghostwolf.
Where are you, please?
This is Minneapolis, Minnesota.
Yes, sir.
Robert, do you believe in there ever being a time where there will be a total peace, like the prophecies say?
Okay, well you may not have heard the program earlier, but Robert?
There will be a time, but we're going to have to go through a lot of trials before we get there now.
This is part of the process of the purification.
Everything that we're going through now is not to harm us, it's to develop us, to strengthen our ability to hold that consciousness.
We will never go to a place where Where the evil will be wiped away by some magic spell.
We're going to have to take the responsibility of changing our hearts.
And that'll change the perception.
And that's why it's hard at this time to change that rapidly.
All right.
Robert, hold on.
We're going to take a break here.
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Good morning.
This was just filed with the Associated Press.
Today.
From India.
There were no salt workers left today in the western port, which produces tons of tabletop staple.
Hundreds of laborers were killed by a cyclone.
Others fled to nearby villages.
And thousands remain missing a week after the storm.
One worker said, the numbers are mind-boggling.
At least 10,000 and up to 14,000 people have disappeared without a trace.
The number of people missing and feared dead, as estimated by Oxfam and other relief agencies, was much higher than the 300 that were originally reported so there you have it as many as 10 to 14,000 people have literally disappeared in India.
we'll get back to uh... robert goes wolf in your questions in a moment
all once again back to robert goes for a
Robert, welcome back.
Here we go.
By the way, how are conditions there on the Black Hills of South Dakota?
Summer's slow.
Summer is slow.
It's cool.
Much cooler than it should be.
Yeah, that's what we get, too.
Grandfather said something that really hit me hard.
Robert, he said that the crops are burned.
That the crops are wind-burned.
Same thing's happening here in South Dakota.
Same thing's happening here in Nevada.
We grow and have grown prolific amounts of artichokes here on the land that I live on.
My wife grows them, Robert, and at the beginning of the year we planted at the normal time and they came up lush and it was going to be in the first couple of weeks we thought the best crop we ever saw.
Then we had cold weather and we had tremendous winds here and they all died back.
They got dry And they died back, and so what he said resonated with me, and you say the same thing is happening there?
Yes, and even I know for a fact that in Washington State they had to plant some crops two and three times because the same kind of phenomenon happened, where all of a sudden they would just come in and they would just burn and wither up.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Robert Ghostwolf.
Hello.
I'm Dan from Omaha, Nebraska.
Hi Dan.
Right now I'm listening to you through the internet or was.
Yes sir.
About three or four months ago I had a dream where in the dream everybody was running around and panicky and everything else.
Towns and whole cities were disappearing and then reappearing.
In the dream I went to one of the areas where one of the towns had disappeared and it was The area was going through a dimensional shift and I went through the experience and our physical bodies that we know now totally melted away and we were more like a spiritual light type of being.
I went back to tell everybody else that there was nothing to fear and that's when I woke up and I was wondering if Mr. Ghost Wolf If any of the Hopi legends had anything in it about that or that people would start having the same type of dreams or anything like that.
I don't know about having the same type of dreams.
I'm sure that there are the same type of dreams.
There are stories about people disappearing, becoming like smoke, the dimensional shifting.
I made a comment a little earlier about that this is the year that the wolf will sing.
And that's got to do with the crop circles in a way, and part of the message of the crop circles is that we, in getting back to the original teachings and getting back to our original roots, one of the things that we're going to have to do is work with the teachings of the sacred circles, which has to do with us returning to the harmonics of life here.
And maybe someday we could even do a show on that.
Hi, how are you doing?
I'm Pat in Fairbanks, Alaska.
Are you coming up soon?
I really, really, really want to get back.
Okay, because there's someone up here I think you've got to talk to pertaining to this issue.
I was just wondering what the position of Grandfather was with the Hopi people and I'd like to comment after that.
I don't understand the question.
He probably had a role.
What did he do?
Was he a shaman?
Or just a craftsman?
A farmer?
Sir, pause and get your answer, okay?
Most Hopis, he's a farmer.
I'm a farmer.
Like most hopis.
Okay, sir, pause and get your answer, okay?
Okay, I'm sorry.
Like most hopis, he's a farmer.
And he's what you would refer to as a high hopi elder.
Okay.
Because there's a guy up here named Peter John who's a Mathabaskan elder, and he was
He kind of speaks to the same message.
I'll be up here in July, maybe we'll meet.
Alright, caller, anything else?
Okay, I'm sorry.
Well, I just wanted to throw that name because if you're up here, maybe someone you want to talk to.
Well, maybe he will.
You mentioned he's going to be up there, so maybe that will occur.
First time caller on the line, you're on the air with Robert Goswell.
Hi, I'm calling from San Diego.
I did want to say that I definitely get a sense that we're in effect fixing a broken leg.
It hurts to reset it, but we're going to be healed afterward, and I don't think we should approach this consciousness with fear.
But I do have a two-part question.
I was wondering, Robert, if you're noticing that the veil is centered between the world and sensing entities that don't want us to succeed, and also you spoke about people being awake.
I've noticed a vast difference between those who are awake and those who are asleep.
And I sense that only certain people are called or compelled to pay attention to the earth changes, and I was wondering if you were sensing this as well?
Again, I think we can go back to something that Grandfather spoke of, which is that it's a matter of personal decision.
And where we're headed for is that purification is not so much a judgment as it is a clarification.
It's a birthing.
It's a changing.
and a moving forth into a new energy and the choice to do that, the choice to open up to visions or to messages or to open up to the new frequencies and harmonics is a matter of personal choice.
There are those who would rather just turn their heads away and not look and those who would just rather keep repeating the same patterns and obviously from what we discussed tonight their outcome is pretty clear.
That's why I was wondering about the other entities perhaps influencing those who are not awake.
Entities or energies?
Entities.
We have created a lot of our own negativity in this reality and we tend to gravitate toward that much more easily than we do toward the positive outlooks and the positive outcomes.
So in order for us to turn around and to utilize the lessons that are coming now is going to take a great deal of personal effort.
We have to relearn how to think good.
Is there any information in Hopi legend regarding entities who do not want us to succeed on spiritual paths?
Yeah, well, I write a lot about that in my books.
A lot about that kind of thing.
Well, then I'll have to pick that up.
Thank you.
All right.
Thank you very much, and take care.
Wild Card Line, you're on the air with Robert Ghostwolf.
Hello.
Hello.
Yes, sir.
Where are you?
San Diego.
Okay, you're on there.
I'd like to ask the question whether the Creator created everything and whether the Creator makes errors.
And I noticed that Goldsworth just said we have to relearn to think good.
That suggests that we were in a good state and knew how to abide in a good state.
Well, apparently we didn't if we fell out of it.
But what I'm wondering is, if we were in the good state, on the good path, on the spiritual path, and the Creator is good, and His path is good, Well, I don't know.
that would be the most desirable state of all.
So how is it possible for us to desire, as you say, and be more comfortable than the
negative if we were originally in the positive?
In other words, why is there a need for purification?
In other words, how does defilement enter into the creation in the first place if the
Creator is good and has complete power and freedom and knows what he is doing, loves
his beings, he doesn't want them to suffer?
Why all this misery and complication?
Well, I don't know, do you have a mirror?
We're walking through a self-created dilemma.
Pardon?
We're walking through a self-created dilemma.
It's not a matter of casting blame.
It's a matter of looking around and realizing what we have created for ourselves.
Precisely.
That is exactly what we have done.
We have created all of this ourselves, haven't we?
And what is coming is a result of, if I listened to the interview carefully, and I think I Uh, the behavior, the corruption, and all the rest of it.
Is that not what Grandfather said?
We have created a self-imposed reality consequence.
And now Creator saying, as Creator always said, the choice is yours.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Robert Ghostwolf.
Hello.
Hi, my name is Stephanie.
I'm in Elgin on 89 WLS.
Thank you very much.
Gentlemen, it's such an honor.
Robert Ghostwolf, I've heard you before and I also got on the net and I saw the things
that you found in the mountains, which were fascinating and wonderful and what I thought
was totally true.
It was really an honor to hear that you brought these people to give their information to
the world.
My question would be, as a person who is trying to get out of the city, and I have some options
here.
Kind of my question is, what is the best way to get out of the city?
My gut feeling is to cut and run and get out to the country.
I'm not that far away from it.
I'm in Illinois but I'm sort of near Wisconsin.
I would ask your suggestion to that.
I have my definite gut feelings.
Sort of ready to make alterations here.
What would you think?
I don't think anybody should ignore their gut feelings.
You can wind up with a real bad tummy ache.
And if your gut feelings are saying you should do this, then you should do this.
Perhaps most of our own personal dilemmas in life is because we don't follow our gut feelings.
Oh boy, what a good comment that is.
What a true comment that is.
Excellent.
Thank you.
Thank you very much and take care.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Robert Ghostwolf.
Hi.
West of the Rockies.
Now you're on the air.
Hello.
Good morning again.
How are you?
Robert, earlier in the program you mentioned something about the fifth world and I don't believe that got addressed.
I wondered if you would talk about that.
Quite true.
It did not get addressed.
Thank you.
The fifth world, Robert, what does that mean?
Are they referring to dimensions or yet another cycle of the present dimension on this world?
We're talking about where we're going.
We've been through The first world, which is the spirit world, the second world, which is the mineral world, the third world, which is the vegetable world, the fourth world, which is the animal world, and the fifth world is where man walks upright in his spirit, where he again becomes that which he was in the beginning.
So the fifth world is the world that we will create.
The consequence of what that world will be and how many of us will make it through to that other world Totally, again, depends upon our own actions.
Hi, Robert Goswolf.
It's an honor to speak with you.
I'm calling from Vancouver, Canada.
Hello.
I'd like to know what advice you can give for people who are receiving visions and dreams and want to be able to decipher them.
Find out the true purpose of why these are coming to them now.
I think the most, I guess, important ones I've had this year is January 1st of this year.
I woke up from a dream where I realized that I was being shown that there was a lot of mass ships that were hovering in the sky and some people saw them and some didn't.
Some members of my family didn't see them and I was You know, trying to get them to see it, but I understood later that it was meant for some people to see them and some not.
So that's basically, I'm guessing from what I've read in books and from what I've read through other sources that that's one way of looking at it.
But also I've had a dream of a female with very long blonde hair and when she turned around her eyes were perfect circles and there were blue piercing eyes.
She was holding a huge crystal that was glowing greenish blue, and there was a tall native guy in there, and I was supposed to protect the little child, and I've had reoccurring dreams where I'm consistently being asked to look after little children.
Alright, well we'll have to hold it there.
More and more people having dreams, having visions, it's becoming obviously, from listening, more and more common lately.
What do you say to these people?
One of the things that they can do that's very helpful is if they try to write these down, like in a little journal, because what we can find a lot of times is that these visions, as we start to look at them in sequence of how we had them, they actually tell us a story.
Maybe it's not clear in the one specific experience, but as we look at three or four or five of them, perhaps then it becomes clear to us.
There are a lot of visions that I hear, especially from women, about taking care of children
because in this time I think we're going to see a lot of homeless children.
That, too, is part of the prophecies.
I think we might have time for one more call.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Robert Ghostwolf.
Hello.
Yes, good morning, gentlemen.
Wonderful show.
Thank you.
Where are you?
In Philadelphia.
Philadelphia.
Yes.
I wanted to mention that I think that as we have these visions and as we have these expectations, that each of us needs to remember to focus on where each of us is in a process, and that every moment is an important future to us, and that each moment that we do what we consider to be the right thing, we improve all of our chances for making a better transition.
I appreciated listening to the elders very much, Robert.
Thank you so much.
Thank you for listening.
All right.
Yes, indeed.
Thank you for your call.
All right, Robert, is there anything in closing that you would like to say to everybody?
It's a question I wish I had had time to ask a grandfather, but I thought I would reserve it for you.
Anything in closing you'd like to say to everybody out there?
I think the most important thing that we can do now is to realize that we are going to We're going to experience things that we have not experienced before.
We're going to see things that we never even conceived that we could see.
We're going to go through changes.
We're going to go through trials.
The most important thing that we can do is to turn inward, because if we turn inward and we open up the inward, then that which happens outside will be a result of what we've opened up inside.
If we keep looking outward and forget the inside, then we'll be lost in the illusion.
Where do you go from where you are now?
You're in the Black Hills.
How long are you going to be there and where do you head next?
I'm up here with my family and with elders talking about what we might do with you if we have another opportunity to hear some people.
Then after here I go back to Washington and I prepare for the Ghost Dance in August.
It has been an absolute pleasure as always having you on, and if the elders there in the Black Hills would like the opportunity to come on and also add their voice to those already in the night this night, we would be honored to have them, so please pass that on to them, all right?
We thank you.
Thank you, and good night, Robert.
Good night.
That's it, folks.
That's all the time we've got.
I will, however, tell you that we've got some very interesting things coming up.
Tomorrow night, somebody who you should be very familiar with is going to be here talking about a very unfamiliar subject for him.
His name is Graham Hancock, and it's going to be a very, very interesting program.
And I'll tell you why.
Because Graham just got back from Okinawa.
That's the Ryukin Islands, south of Japan, south and a little east of Japan.
He actually went on dives there, and he looked at the ruins that are under the water off the island of Okinawa.
One of the Ryukin Islands, actually.
I should be accurate here.
And I think you'll find that to be an absolutely riveting show.
Then, coming up Friday night, Saturday morning, we have got some of the nation's best hackers.
Computer.
Hackers who are going to come on the program, so we've got a lot ahead.
Lots to do this week, and we're going to try and fit in a night or two of open lines at the same time.
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