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Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell - Open Lines - Antichrist Hotline

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unidentified		Welcome to Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
unidentified		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from June 2nd, 1998.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		From the high desert in the great American Southwest, I bid you all good evening or good morning as the case may be across all these time zones stretching commercially from the Hawaiian and Heaven Island southwest eastward to the Caribbean and the U.S. Virgin Islands out into South America.
unidentified		North, definitely all the way to the Pole.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And worldwide on the internet, this is close to close a.m.
		I'm glad to be here this morning.
		It's going to be open minds all night long.
		And in the next hour, I may open the internet quite.
		I've been working this now for a while.
		Spurred on by my audience made the suggestion.
		As a matter of fact, it was Jim in Vancouver who made the original suggestion that we open an Antichrist line.
		And this all came from discussion about whether the Antichrist...
		Now, that kind of turned into a discussion the other night of, well, if he is, what do you think he is doing right now?
		And that's still a really good question, by the way.
		What do you think he's doing right now?
unidentified		The Antichrist, if he's out there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And that evolved into, well then, why not open a line?
		I know there are those out there who believe they are the Antichrist, and maybe they are.
		And maybe they're not.
		Maybe they're deluding themselves in some way.
		Maybe they're experiencing some sort of mental illness, elevator, not going to all floors, that sort of thing.
		And maybe the real thing is out there.
		We'll see.
		Regular news, eight states held primaries Tuesday night.
		California dominated the political landscape with an open seat for governor and the U.S. Senate and two far-reaching ballot initiatives to weaken organize labor's political muscle and eliminate bilingual education.
		Monica Lewinsky has sacked her lawyer, Ginsberg, hired two more.
		The special prosecutor says he welcomes their presence.
		Independent counsel Kenneth Starr asked the Supreme Court Tuesday to rule on whether or not Secret Service employees in a White House aide must testify before a grand jury.
		There I may see a problem.
		I wonder how the rest of you feel about it.
		The Secret Service, because of the job that it does, must by its very nature be really, really intimate with the President and the First Family.
		And it's just the way it is.
		And of course they are charged with protecting other heads of state who come here from elsewhere.
		And I'm not altogether sure that they should testify.
		They probably should have some sort of immunity.
		I mean, if you go to the basic question of what they're required to do, what their job is, and if the president has to worry that the man who is standing there, and it is a big intrusion into a private life, no question about it, that that man who always has to be present could be required to testify about anything.
		I don't know that that is such a good idea.
		What do you think?
		Shuttle on the way to Mir?
		Mir stabilized.
		It should go okay.
		India and Pakistan are now capable of arming warplanes with nukes and probably will be able to deploy warheads on missiles in a year or two.
		This is from the Clinton administration.
		Right?
		Phil Hartman's wife confessing to a friend that she killed the comic actor, but the man didn't believe the distraught woman until he arrived at the couple's home and found the body.
		So there you have it.
		She apparently confessed to this in a phone call.
		C-SPAN tonight ran something on the year 2000 problem.
		For those who thought Gary North was way over the line, an awful lot of what was heard on C-SPAN should have scared you in exactly the same way.
		By the way, again, with respect to the nuke, Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan on Fox News Sunday said, quote, we're closer to nuclear war than at any time since the Cuban Missile Crisis.
		End quote.
		And here I've got a very interesting article.
		We were talking about earthquakes, as you know.
		I suspect strongly, and I'm not afraid to say, because as far as I can see, the rest of the media is, that there is at least a possibility that the India and Pakistani nuclear testing caused the Afghan earthquake.
unidentified		Nobody wants to talk about that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I'm sure there are lots of political reasons why they now think about 5,000 died in that earthquake.
		But if one were to even suggest the possibility that an earthquake could be caused by a nuke detonated underground, that would make it an entirely different argument, wouldn't it?
		And so I think the media is intentionally staying away from even speculating about it for that reason.
		Now, what does that say to you?
		Did you know that the Russians were working on a bomb that would have actually the ability to penetrate deep in the earth dropped from an airplane specifically to cause an earthquake?
		Did you know they were working on that?
		Well, they were.
		They spent years working on it.
		An atomic bomb that would be dropped specifically to cause an earthquake.
unidentified		To trigger an earthquake.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, I suspect we're working on it, too.
		And that's a weapon of war.
		In other words, earth movement or the production of earth movement of an earthquake at the right moment could be every bit as deadly as something detonated above ground, but you'd have a lot of advantage, really.
		If you caused a giant earthquake with an A-bomb or an H-bomb, you would cause incredible devastation like a bomb, except your bomb would not be radiating.
		It would have gone underground, done its work, caused an earthquake, and you would have devastation and death, just the way you would if you dropped a bomb, minus the radiation.
		So I've got information right here from the Associated Press that indeed the Russians had been working on it.
		And you know if they are working on it, we have worked on it, or we are now.
		Right?
		Am I right?
		I'm afraid I am.
		Anyway, open lines coming up.
unidentified		pfft pfft you Thank you.
		You are listening to Art Bell somewhere in time.
		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from June 2, 1998.
		Coast AM from June 2, 1998.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, this is going to be a completely open line night.
		Anything you want to talk about is fair game.
		So let's see, where to begin.
		East of the Rockies, you are on the air.
unidentified		How are you on?
unidentified		This is Frenchie.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		How are you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm fine.
unidentified		All right.
		Hey, you had a guy on the other night that was talking about these ferrets, the animal guy.
		Yeah.
		He had a good laugh on him.
		He must be a big, hearty guy or something.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, if you could see his photograph, he's got a lot of facial hair, big beard.
unidentified		God, when he laughs, he's like Santa Claus.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's like you're looking at Mr. Outdoors when you see him.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, he looks the part.
unidentified		He sounds very healthy.
unidentified		Mm-hmm.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he's sitting there.
		Oh, you know what?
		I'm kind of glad you mentioned it because I now have two PETA people.
		You know Peter, right?
unidentified		Peter as in PETA.
unidentified		PETA?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		People eating tasty animals.
		PETA.
		Anyway, two PETA people who want to come on and debate him.
		And I lost his number.
unidentified		Oh, gosh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So when I get it, I'm going to set up that debate.
unidentified		Listen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		He had the ferrets eating faces.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ferret eating faces.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And face-eating ferrets.
unidentified		I think it was about, I don't know, some time ago you were talking about this woman who was sitting on a porch, and a pig ran across the lawn and jumped up on a porch and bit her vigorously.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I think that that pig had to be shot by a cop.
unidentified		You know, I called up Vince at Chicago and we checked the journals and everything else on it.
unidentified		And we couldn't figure out what part of the medical journals, what part of the anatomy the vigorously was.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Goodbye, goodbye, goodbye.
		It's something below the kneecap and above the ankle.
		That's where the vigorously area is.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		Let me get this radio off.
		I got it.
		Okay.
		Good.
		This is Nick from Oak Harbor, which is on Whidby Island.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Nick.
unidentified		Which is near where the latest crop circles are.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, crop circles, maybe.
		You know, there is more evidence now pointing toward two rather terrestrial possibilities.
		One, high winds, very unusual high winds, and the other, a fertilization error.
		So we're not sure yet.
unidentified		Okay, well, that's one of the things I wanted to report to you.
unidentified		The article in the Whidbey News Times as of last Saturday talked about the farmer who owned the field who admitted that there had not been cow manure placed in that field for over two years.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Uh-huh.
unidentified		Okay, that's number one.
unidentified		In the second place, we had no extremely high winds at the time that this was supposed to have been formed in that area.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, there are still unexplained things about it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm just saying that the people I've been hearing from have been suggesting that they think it's leaning in that direction.
unidentified		Well, I can understand that.
		But, you know, we live right here.
		And I went down and interviewed some people from there.
		We were down there two days last week.
		Thursday and Friday, as a matter of fact.
		No, Friday and Saturday, I'm sorry.
		And Took some pictures, of course, and all the rest of it.
		And when we talked to, I interviewed a lady who said that she talked to people who had seen the area Wednesday of the previous week and it wasn't there.
		And a man who saw it Thursday afternoon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, look, it's entirely possible it was formed quickly.
		Now, I'd be the last one to say not.
		I don't want to take your crop circle away from you.
		But I'm simply saying, and I talked to Peter Davenport earlier this evening, that we're sort of leaning toward a natural explanation of some sort, as opposed to, you know, them.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Good evening, Mr. Bell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good evening to you.
unidentified		It's been quite a while since I've spoken to you last.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How long is it?
unidentified		Robert.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Robert, yes.
unidentified		Your dementia traveler.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes, that Robert.
unidentified		This Robert.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good to hear from you.
unidentified		Good evening to you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good evening.
unidentified		Well, I'm presently in Los Angeles, and I'm quite fascinated with the political process here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In L.A. Political process in LA?
unidentified		In this United States.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you're supposed to be calling on the Antichrist line.
unidentified		Why?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you talked about political process in this country.
unidentified		That's true.
		That is a.
		Seriously, though, it's very interesting because where I come from, our government is primarily libertarian.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Another dimension.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So where does that leave us libertarians in this dimension?
		Hopelessness?
		I mean, the only time we're going to get to libertarianism is in another dimension?
unidentified		No, you have quite a good chance of it, actually.
unidentified		If you were to, if all of the people who claim that they were throwing away their vote by voting libertarian were to do so, you'd have the same government that I do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't claim that at all.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I know.
unidentified		Quite a number of people, you know, I've heard on your talk radio stations.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think that attitude is changing a lot.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I think that a lot of people are beginning to conclude they are not going to throw away their vote, and they are not going to vote for either one of the existing two same old SAMOs.
unidentified		Right.
unidentified		Yes, we had our primaries in several of our states also.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I know.
unidentified		And the Native American Party, as you would call it here, is getting closer.
unidentified		They only fell off by 243 votes this time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Basically, it's still the person with the most money that wins.
unidentified		Not where I come from.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's another dimension.
unidentified		Though, I was pleased to see that your people in California are making the same inroads because the two most wealthy people running for the governor lost to the one with the least funds and least charisma for what I could gather.
unidentified		And then Gray Davis.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If that's true, then there really is a turnaround, and then maybe Francis Barwood in Arizona has a pretty good chance.
unidentified		Well, I wanted to also bring up something disturbing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		On my show?
		Something disturbing?
		Oh, no.
		All we have is good news here.
		Okay, Robert.
unidentified		What?
		Well, this whole situation with India and Pakistan is very disturbing.
		I've been gone for a while, back home.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		To your dimension?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And how are India and Pakistan doing over there?
unidentified		We don't have any difficulty with nuclear power.
		Matter of fact, nuclear power is just that.
		It's used for power sources.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's it.
unidentified		That's it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Nobody makes any bombs.
unidentified		As a matter of fact, when the tests were first being done, and there was a possibility that a bomb could actually be made from...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It was Patrick Moynihan, Senator, who said the other day, we're closer to nuclear war right now than any time since Cuba.
unidentified		Why do you think I keep a finger on the switch?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, Robert.
		Yes, well, you'd have a few minutes' warning anyway.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		All right, good evening there, Mr. Bell.
unidentified		This is Ben from Oregon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello, Ben.
unidentified		Say, Mr. Bell, do you know the forecast made about Fatima?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		When I was a little boy...
		Well, before the third, the first two were released, and going to a Catholic school in about 1942 or three, and the reason I'm saying this is a lady called in and she said, what can we do about it?
		Well, there was a prayer at the time, and it went like this.
		Dear Lady of Fatima, we come on bended knee to ask your intercession for peace and unity.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		so the poem yeah and it actually in the part of it it was a song I've got the idea.
unidentified		But the end of it is, we come on, okay, in the end, it more or less says, we pledge our love and offer thee a rosary each day.
		And that was the promise to forestall the Fatima predictions, was a prayer to the Blessed Virgin.
		Theory being that being the mother of Christ, a son would be more likely to obey the will of his mother than the will of the people in general.
		And that was the prayer offered.
		And this, as I say, this went back To the original predictions in 1914, because I heard it in 1942 when I was in about the third grade.
		So I thought I would pass it on to you.
		And one more thing you might find of interest is there are certain long-distance carriers that will ring your number up to 60 times a full five minutes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		Oh, yes.
unidentified		I have a new carrier, and it's the Christian Digital Network.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The Christian Digital Network?
unidentified		Yeah, it's the Christian.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You mean they're getting into phone companies now?
unidentified		You betcha.
		And they're advertised on one of your competitor shows there.
		And they ring a full 60 times.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, why don't they just let it ring and ring until there is ring and ring and ring?
		Well, anyway, I gotta go.
		It's the bottom of the hour.
		I remember the good old days when they'd let it ring, don't you?
		Today is silly.
unidentified		This is Premier Networks.
		That was Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM on this, somewhere in time.
		Her hands are never cold.
		She's got better day besides.
		The time using gone, you won't have to think twice.
		She's pure as New York snow.
		She's got better days.
		She teased you, she won ease you.
		How better just to please you?
		She's a culture and she knows just what it takes to make a program.
		I'm a little bit tired.
		I'm a little bit tired.
		Thank you.
		Now, we take you back to the past on Art Bell somewhere in time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do you think the Antichrist is doing right now?
unidentified		Well, Erd, I think they'll probably be doing a late-night radio program.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I know.
		Yeah, probably next hour I'm beginning to feel like I'm getting in the mood.
		In the mood for an Antichrist line.
		And you've got to sort of feel for this delicately and carefully before you decide whether it's a good night to do it.
		That's where it is.
unidentified		That's where it is.
		You're listening to Art Bell somewhere in time.
		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from June 2, 1998.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Music Music Back to the phone lines and on the international line, you're on the air.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		Good morning, Ark.
unidentified		It's Darren in Winnipeg.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Winnipeg, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		A little bit cool, Peggy these days.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's finally cooling off up there, huh?
unidentified		Yeah.
		Yeah, that's one of the things I wanted to talk about.
		Plus, I wanted to talk about the nukes and earthquakes.
		But first, the way the weather is up here, last week or a week or so ago, we were getting weather that was like in the high in the mid-70s and during the day.
		And now it's only getting up to somewhere around the mid to high 50s.
		And we're somewhere around the mid-low 30s in the evenings.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But good Lord, man, you're in Canada.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, Canada's cold.
unidentified		I know, but it shouldn't be this cold at this time of the year, though, Lord.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It shouldn't?
unidentified		No.
		No?
		Normally, it's warmer than this.
		This is June.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Give me a typical temperature for June.
unidentified		Typical, somewhere around the 75, 77, 78, something like that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That said, you're in the 50s, huh?
unidentified		Yeah.
		Or low 60s for high during the day.
		And it just all of a sudden happened.
		And there are parts of Manitoba where they had a little bit of snow overnight last night.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, obviously, we're in the middle of a weather change.
unidentified		Obviously.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, what else?
unidentified		I wanted to talk a bit about the nukes and earthquakes.
		Yes.
		First of all, I tend to agree with you on it possibly having an effect.
		The question is having an effect.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The question is, why won't anybody talk about it?
unidentified		Well, I guess they're scared and they don't want to admit that they're wrong.
		And even up here, in a non-nuclear power like Canada, we don't have nukes.
		Well, we have nuclear power plants for research and generating electricity and that in some provinces, but we don't have any nuclear weapons, at least not that I know of.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How do we know that you all up there don't have a secret cache?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In fact, how do you know you don't have a secret cache?
unidentified		I don't know.
unidentified		The government doesn't tell us much up here either.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, I mean, we're going through this big fishing dispute with you on the west coast, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You never know how that might spiral out of control.
unidentified		And anyway, on our Discovery channel up here last night, they have a program called at Discovery Canada.
		It's a science news program.
		And one of the segments on it is called You Asked For It, where viewers can call in or write in by email what the question.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And the question was.
unidentified		And the question was whether or not nukes and earthquakes are related.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And the answer was?
unidentified		The answer that was given was no.
		Although seismic activity is noticed around the area and that, but it's officially that it doesn't.
		That was the answer up here, too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I see.
		All right.
		Well, thank you.
		Yes, of course.
		I guess that's what they're going to say.
		But they're full of it.
		I think there's every possibility.
		I mean, look, Russia had an absolute program going on for years, for years and years, to develop nuclear bombs that would be lowered into the ground or dropped from a plane in a warfare kind of situation, go at least 135 feet down, detonate, and cause earthquakes.
		That was the entire thrust of their program.
		And, you know, if they're doing it, you know we are.
		You know we are.
		And to suggest that, you know, what scientists will tell you, of course, is that the power of a six-point earthquake is just incredible compared to a nuclear detonation underground.
		But what they are not acknowledging is the sympathetic theory that obviously if you produce a seismic event, four-point something or another, I think they measured the one in Pakistan, to suggest that could not produce a sympathetic reaction in a fault line, you know, a tectonic movement that's getting ready to move anyway, that's crazy.
		They're crazy.
		There's another reason why they're not allowing for the possibility that it may be causing earthquakes.
		It may have a lot to do with, well, we tested here in Nevada near me.
		I remember when I lived in Las Vegas, when they were doing it, they would give us warnings.
		People in high places, up on buildings way up, had to come inside during the time that we were testing.
		And you could feel the sway in Las Vegas.
		So if you could feel the sway in Las Vegas from the test site 90 miles away, don't tell me, don't even try to tell me that there could not be a relationship between testing and earthquakes because I'm not buying it.
		Because I think there could be.
		It's just they won't talk about it.
		It intrigues me.
		It intrigues me that the major media worldwide won't even talk about it.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
		Hello, Ark.
		This is Doug in Colorado.
		Listening to you on 630K Show Dodi.
		That's the one.
		It's funny you mentioned that about Afghanistan, the quake.
		That's the first thing I thought about as well with the earthquake causing that.
		I mean, the nuclear testing, excuse me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, look, check me if I'm wrong here, but that's what everybody's telling me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you know, is it a little strange that the talking heads who would normally talk themselves to death over something like this aren't even mentioning it?
unidentified		Yeah, it's, you know, it might take a little bit too much investigating for them, and they don't like to work too hard.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no, I think it might have geopolitical implications that there I said it.
unidentified		That too.
unidentified		I was wondering if you might have spoken to Jim Birkland.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Isn't he the geologist that Jim has not commented on it, although I would welcome his comments on it.
		Most geologists are afraid to make such a suggestion.
		Maybe Jim Birkland, in his retired, who cares what I say, kind of mode, might tell us.
unidentified		Exactly, yeah.
		He seems to just that way, exactly.
		He's not afraid of the consequences.
		And I've listened to him several times.
		I thought he was.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, me too.
		All right, Jim, if you're out there, send me a facts.
		What do you think?
		Is it possible, Jim, Mr. Birkeland, that a nuclear detonation in the 1820 kiloton range or megaton, if you talk about what the Indians detonated, could cause a reaction not all that far away in Afghanistan that could trigger an earthquake like this.
		Maybe Jim Birkland, since he's retired, you know, it's really hard to get people who have regular careers now, geologic careers of some sort, to comment on this because I think it's a political, real hot potato, and I'm just convinced.
		So what about you, Jim?
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		I was going to mention something about the Antichrist.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do you, what do you, first of all, do you think the Antichrist is now alive?
unidentified		I'm not sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You think it's possible?
unidentified		Well, I think it's possible.
unidentified		But I was going to ask you, have you ever heard anything about the Bible Code?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, of course.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Michael Drosnan wrote the Bible Code.
unidentified		Right.
		Well, I came across that on the Internet, and I flipped through it, and I found it very interesting, and I was reading all the articles where they had found out that once they believed it to be true, and then they found out that that could happen with any text randomly.
		And they used Bill Gates as an example.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A lot of people think Bill Gates is the Antichrist.
unidentified		Yeah, and they showed that Bill Gates was you know they were.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There are entire websites devoted to the fact that Bill Gates is the Antichrist.
		Personally, I don't think he's that bad at all.
		I have a little anger with him about the first days of Windows 95 and some of the bugs, but the Antichrist, no.
unidentified		Well, the thing that I thought of is when I read that, because I realized that they were making fun, saying that Bill Gates could be the Antichrist.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If you think that's something, you should see what I've got here.
unidentified		What's that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I have, now this obviously has got to be a joke, of course.
		But it says here, Dateline, Redmond, Washington.
		World leaders reacted with stunned silence as Microsoft Corporation conducted an underground nuclear test at a secret facility in eastern Washington state.
		The device exploded at 9.22 a.m. Pacific time.
		Today was time to coincide with talks between Microsoft and the U.S. Department of Justice over possible antitrust action.
		Then it supposedly quotes Mr. Gates here as saying, Microsoft is going to defend its right to market its products by all necessary means.
unidentified		Well, he definitely has a lot of power.
		And the thing that I think, though, is that I don't believe the Antichrist will know who he is.
		I believe he'll be more like a pawn.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But he might know.
		he might sort of have you know the way you have a sense about things see that's why I think when I open I think you're going to get a lot of nuts calling in.
		Well, there is that.
		But I mean, there's also the possibility, you've got to admit, slim though it may be, that the Antichrist is out.
unidentified		I wouldn't see any reason why not.
unidentified		I don't know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, Christ was a man, right?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So wouldn't it make sense that the Antichrist would be a woman?
unidentified		Well, I don't know.
		Since you've been talking about it the last couple of nights, I decided to do a little bit of reading on it, and I was very surprised because I've heard a lot of people in different religions talk about the Antichrist and predict it in the end of the age and everything.
		But when I turn to a Strong's Concordance, Antichrist is only listed four times, and it's not even in the book of Revelations.
		It's in the book of 1 and 2 John.
		And it's used as just as a group of people that just don't profess Christ came in the flesh as the Son of God.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		As Antichrist?
		Well, in that case, Maya, it's going to be a hot, busy night.
		If the Antichrist is alive right now, what do you think she's doing?
unidentified		I'm not saying it's a sheep.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Goodbye.
		Wouldn't even associate herself with the possibility.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		Hello, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		How are you tonight?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Reasonably well.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You are violating procedure with your radio up, aren't you?
unidentified		No, the radio is down.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's your dog.
unidentified		Oh, that's our dog, yes.
		All right, the reason why I called is that in 1983, let me make this real quick.
		In 1983, I checked out a book of Sarasota Florida Library.
		It was called Philadelphia Experiment.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
unidentified		Now, a few years ago, in Fayetteville, North Carolina, I tried to check out this book again, but they did not have a copy of it, and they told me they could do a search nationwide to all the libraries in order to borrow this copy for me.
		Well, when they did this, I went down a few days later to find out the results, and they told me that no library that they could come across had a copy of the book, that the book did not exist.
		So I would figure maybe I had the title wrong, which I doubt that I did because I know I checked this book out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, it's called the Philadelphia Experiment.
unidentified		Well, I checked it out for two weeks out of the library in Florida back in 1983.
unidentified		Now, I cannot find a copy of this book anywhere, and everybody.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, all right.
		The best I can do for you, thank you for the call, and I'll do it, is to try and get a hold of Al Belick.
		It's been a while since I've talked to Al.
		Maybe too long.
		Oh, by the way, I've got some news for you.
		Now that I think about it, I'll hold it till after the top of the hour.
		But I have some important guest news for you.
		Western the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Yes.
		Hi, Art.
		How's it going?
		I've got a few things I wanted to talk to you about.
		first of all that uh...
		fun ringing thanks well read about that Oh, you mean when you call me?
		Right.
		Yeah.
		What I've read is that it takes a higher voltage for them to make the phone ring, so it costs them less if they cut it off at a certain amount of rings.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's stupid.
unidentified		That's what I've heard.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's stupid.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, the whole idea of cutting it off in the first place is stupid.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And it's happened since we broke up the phone company.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Before then, things were a lot different.
		Telephones weighed more.
		They worked better.
unidentified		Yep.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sounded better.
unidentified		Yep.
		And, of course, the other thing, too, is with the black boxes.
		That may be another motive behind it is, you know, the black boxes worked by when somebody picked up the other phone, it would think it was still ringing.
		And so that may be another reason for it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you a phone hacker?
unidentified		Well, I read 2600.
unidentified		I know Eric Corley.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You are a phone hacker.
unidentified		Just sort of casually.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Even knowing that number, it is the number of the hacker.
		2600.
		You and I both know it.
unidentified		You should have some hackers on your show sometime.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm already working on it.
unidentified		Good deal.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Eric Corley, you'd be interested.
		I've got a couple other things for you.
		I live in Cooteville where that crop sort of rectangle appeared.
		Yes.
		I've seen it.
		It's interesting.
		You know, the people around here seem to have come to the conclusion that it's a combination of the rain and wind.
		That is a high wind area where it happens to be at.
		And I don't know.
		I don't know what to make of it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Thank you.
		Luster of the Rockies, you're on air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello, there.
unidentified		All right, this is Fritz calling.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ah, Fritz, the unmistakable voice of Fritz.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How are you doing?
unidentified		Fine, fine.
		First of all, I must make a correction.
		Last week, when I said we had 2,066 nuclear explosion, it was 2,056.
		That's the exact count.
		Plus one Saturday, so that stands 2,057.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a bunch.
unidentified		Now, I remember April 26, 1968, when the largest underground explosion took place outside Las Vegas.
		I was in place at seven o'clock in the morning.
		I went outside Vegas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The place to be, if you really wanted to experience it, was up at the top of a tall building in Las Vegas.
		And I did that several times.
		And man, I'll tell you, the ground, she rocks.
		Now, that's a long way away, Fritz.
unidentified		But you have to realize why I went there, because I knew when we have underground nuclear explosion of any kind, UFOs will show up.
		And sure they did.
		The first thing, I still have the clipping, 42668 on the sun, UFOs over Renaissance.
		So I knew they were over Vegas too, and sure enough, I saw them.
		were right over my head.
		I tried to take pictures, but...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it flat out makes sense.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If they are there, they're definitely going to be interested in what we're doing in this area.
unidentified		They measure everything.
		Every time we have an explosion, you watch for UFOs because of earthquake activity.
		That's common sense to me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, we haven't been exploding nuclear devices underground, and maybe they had just about concluded that we had a handle on it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And if they did, then what do you suppose they concluded the other day?
unidentified		Well, I mean, they're constantly observing us, and of course, with India and Pakistan, this is totally out of control.
		I mean, you've got two undernourished nations having a game here.
		Who's got the biggest weapon?
		I mean, it's insane.
		But remember, we were there with the Russians back 10, 15 years ago.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know, but we aren't into martyrdom.
		And actually, the Russians are not either.
		Now, when you get into nations like Pakistan, that changes.
unidentified		Well, they have a power struggle.
		It's like children playing with fire.
		And of course, the big daddy that's United States and the Europe nations have to come together to stop that nonsense because we've been through it 20, 30 years, the Cold War.
		We have to graduate and come above that level.
		Otherwise, like the doctor says the physicists said we're going to be a zero.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we will remain a type zero planet.
		Sterile, no doubt, at that.
		That was Dr. Michio Kaku.
		And by the way, the scientists that control the atomic clock, that clock which shows how close we are to self-destruction, I guess are having meetings right now deciding whether to move it closer to midnight.
		It had backed away a little bit because of what's going on in India and Pakistan.
		And we might get up to about two minutes or even less before midnight.
		Anyway, one thing's for sure, something's coming, and we're not going back.
unidentified		The trip back in time continues, with Art Bell hosting Toast to Toast AM.
		more somewhere in time coming up
		I said no one could take your place.
		Premier Networks presents Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from June 2nd, 1998.
		Boy, do I have some big news for you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I just got a message from Robert Ghostwolf.
		And I can now confirm for you that Monday, June 15th, at 11 o'clock Pacific, we will have, for, as far as I know, one of the first times in broadcast history, two Hopi elders on the program from the Hopi Cinem, the Hopi Nation.
		Because we want to avoid any pressure or harassment being brought upon them from any source prior to the program, we are not going to give you the names until then.
		And I'm not even sure about them, but I think we may then.
		Certainly not prior to the program.
		We don't want pressure, and there will be pressure, I can assure you.
		The Hopi elders feel that the time of change, the time of earth change, is now so close that they have no choice but to go public.
		And as far as I know, this will be one of the first times that's ever been done.
		So it's going to be on this program, June 15th, 11 o'clock Pacific, or otherwise, the second hour of the program.
		Thought you'd be interested.
		Good morning, everybody.
		I'm Art Bell.
		I just got a patch from Bill on Anchorage who says, Art, anyone who believes that the India-Pakistani nuclear test caused the Afghan earthquake simply does not understand geology, seismology, or the immense power of earthquakes and the forces required to trigger them.
		And, you know, I get a lot of this.
		And I understand that is the traditional view, the conventional wisdom view of geologists and scientists, but I think they're full of crap.
		And I think that nuclear tests, look, again, I'll say it this way: I've lived here near the test site for a long time.
		I worked in Las Vegas for well over a decade.
		Actually, well, well over a decade.
		And I was in Las Vegas when they did underground testing 90 miles away.
		And let me tell you right now, the buildings would rock and roll in Las Vegas.
		I mean, they would issue warnings to everybody outside working on windows or on high rises or in precarious positions to get the hell inside.
		I issued those warnings on the radio.
		And then the bombs should go and you'd go back and forth and you'd swing.
		There'd be like an earthquake.
		Now that's 90 miles away.
		And there's no way anybody's going to tell me that something that can produce that kind of earth movement 90 miles away doesn't have the possibility of causing a sympathetic fracture.
		Fracture is the wrong word, tectonic plate movement, and causing an earthquake.
		I'm steadfastly going to stick to my guns on this one.
		I think it's possible, and moreover, I think it's criminal, that the world's media, and I mean the world's media, isn't even talking about it.
		Something's up.
		Why wouldn't they talk about it?
		And then, of course, tonight there is the Antichrist.
		The Antichrist line.
		Here is a fact.
		Art, if the Antichrist is alive at this time, I'd suspect that he's likely sitting on a tropical beach under the shade of a palm sipping a tall, cool drink and rocking in a rocking chair.
		His business seems to be doing quite all right on its own, or rather with our collective help.
		So here's somebody who thinks the Antichrist is simply sort of laid back and thinking things are going pretty well for him right now.
unidentified		You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
unidentified		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from June 2, 1998.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Music All right, just so that proper credit or blame is assigned, it was Jim in Vancouver, Canada.
		That's right, Vancouver, who suggested the Antichrist line by writing the following.
		Hello, Art, love your show.
		Just comment on the Antichrist.
		You asked on the air a few nights ago, what do you think the Antichrist is doing right now?
		It's true, I did.
		And he says, well, I feel the Antichrist doesn't even know he's the Antichrist.
		He won't know until just before the end, just like Judas who betrayed Christ.
		Judas himself didn't even know until it was too late.
		So he suggested the Antichrist line.
		Andy in Eureka seconds that and all these other facts I'm getting.
		Therefore, why not?
		Let us try it.
		I hereby reserve away what is normally our first time caller line, area code 702-727-1222, and I hereby cancel that line tonight, and I hereby assign it to anybody out there who believes he, or, and I might add, it's eminently possible that it's a she.
		I mean, after all, Antichrist was a man.
		The Antichrist could be a woman.
		Got to consider that possibility.
		If you think you're the Antichrist, or if you even just a little bit think you're the Antichrist, well, now is the time to call.
		The Antichrist line is hereby officially open.
		Now, I no doubt will not begin to answer it until the bottom of the hour because, well, because I'm going to screen the calls to be sure of what I get.
		You've got to have, if you've got to have an Antichrist line, you've got to have high-quality Antichrist calls.
		They're going to drag me out of here one day.
		Anyway, there you have it.
		The Antichrist line, 702-727-1222.
		Now, it's ringing like crazy right now.
		Already.
		I was wondering earlier on, would it not ring?
		Will there not be any out there who will claim to be the Antichrist?
		Or will there be many?
		I don't know.
		We'll find out tonight.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, Ark.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		I'm laughing because it's an Antichrist thing.
unidentified		I'm waiting to see what comes of it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What is your best guess?
unidentified		You're going to get a lot of calls and there are going to be a lot of kooks.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You think so?
unidentified		I think so.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, the trick is going to be to sift through the kooks.
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And see if you can, you know, there's bound to be one voice in the middle of the night that's going to sound like the real thing.
unidentified		I hope so.
		You do?
		I don't.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, now listen to you.
unidentified		Well.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It sounds like you might be on his side.
unidentified		No way.
unidentified		That isn't why I called, though.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		I couldn't get through the other night when you had your person on talking about the animals.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
unidentified		And then I believe it was last night you talked about the double-sex polar bears.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Great news, huh?
unidentified		Well, no.
unidentified		Old news.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, it's not old news.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, they've had them before, but the incidence of it has gone up By many hundreds of percent.
unidentified		Exactly.
		And in the last few years, I'm coming from the upstate New York area.
		There have been born one calf that I know of that was both totally male and female at the same time.
		Many other mutations, such as an extra set of legs here and there, one two-headed calf, and killed and documented by NCON, a hunter killed it, a doe with the most beautiful set of antlers you ever saw.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, brother.
unidentified		So, I mean, this pollution or whatever it is that's causing this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Better living through chemicals, huh?
unidentified		Something like that.
		And people don't believe it.
		And, I mean, and this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know what I wish?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I wish that if we would mutate, we would get some extra useful appendages.
unidentified		Oh, okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right?
unidentified		This calf was totally healthy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, I understand, and I appreciate your call, but think about it for a moment.
		If we're going to mutate, how about an eye in the back of the head?
		How about an arm out of your back?
		Can you imagine the things that we could do as human beings that we now can't do because we don't have these things?
		There are other possibilities.
		Sensory organs placed at different locales.
		I can just imagine all kinds of things, but it probably won't go that way.
		You know, we'll end up with something horrible.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hey, Art.
unidentified		How you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm okay.
unidentified		Listen, of course there's a connection between nukes and earthquakes.
unidentified		You'd have to be a fool to think that there wasn't.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, but look.
		Have you watched TVD, watched CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS?
		Nobody.
		Nobody talks about it.
		Nobody even hints about it.
		Now, why would that be?
unidentified		Well, I have an idea.
unidentified		Maybe, maybe this is all some sort of a preemptive measure for some other sort of event.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do you mean?
unidentified		With all of the earth changes that you hear about, that are predicted, that are prophesied.
unidentified		Maybe there is some world government somewhere that knows something and they're just trying to preempt the inevitable by blowing it to kingdom come.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do you think the Antichrist might be doing right now?
unidentified		Probably waiting for you to answer the phone.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Class A answer, ma'am.
		Class A answer.
		Well, he's out there.
		We're going to be getting to it toward the bottom of the hour here.
unidentified		I'm looking forward to it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, thank you.
unidentified		Good night, Ark.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		See you later.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Hi, how you doing, Art?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm doing so far, so good.
unidentified		All right, this is George in Philadelphia.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, George.
unidentified		Okay, you had a call around before talking about Al Bilick, and you were wondering where he is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, not so much.
		I said I was going to try and contact him.
		You're going to have to talk real strong on your phone yell at us.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, yeah, I've got a phone number for Al Bilick, and I should call it and see if I can find him.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I think he's in Arizona.
unidentified		Actually, no.
		I have a friend.
		Now, I used to live on Long Island, and I've actually been to the Montauk Project up there on the East End.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And I actually have a friend who has been there without me, and she has seen him and the Duncan Cameron.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		They have both been in that area.
unidentified		There's a little residential area where there's some houses and whatever.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I know Al moved to the South for a while because I interviewed him once when he was there.
		Then he moved back to Arizona.
		Now, he may be traveling, but I think that his home is now in Arizona.
		I think.
unidentified		Well, I have I know that I've been to the project before and I know that they still have, in fact, they're still operational.
		There's still some of the satellite dishes up working there, and there's still people, they have the military still there.
		And if you actually go on there and go to a certain level, to a certain point, they'll actually take you and they'll arrest you, basically, and say, get out of here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Secret stuff.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What could I say?
		All right.
		Thank you very much.
		Yeah, I'll try and I'll see if I can get hold of Al.
		He's out there somewhere.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
		Hello.
		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Oh, sorry about that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sorry about what?
unidentified		I didn't, I had the radio on.
unidentified		I was waiting for you to pass the radar.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I see.
		I see.
		Okay, well, here you are.
		Where are you?
unidentified		In Los Angeles.
unidentified		L.A. I have some fuel to add to your fire on the earthquakes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		I'm surprised you missed this.
unidentified		You never miss anything.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I miss some things.
unidentified		When they had the test in India.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		I don't know how soon it was after that, but it was within a week.
unidentified		They had a 6.2.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		China.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I didn't miss that.
		No, you're right.
		I didn't miss it.
		I had it on the air.
unidentified		Oh, I was just thinking that the pattern...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Look at the map.
unidentified		Well, it was the pattern that blew me away.
		Yep.
		India and the earthquake was northeast of India and Pakistan.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, the big question, ma'am, is all of you.
		You all know it.
		You're talking about it.
		And I'm talking about it.
		Nobody else is talking about it.
unidentified		Well, nobody else is as smart as we are.
		Oh, I. Tongue-in-cheek, of course.
		And the Antichrist couldn't be a woman because he's constantly referred to as a he.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I know, but well, I know.
unidentified		And I agree with one of your callers.
		I don't believe that he really realizes who he is because when he comes into power, he's going to be a mighty person.
		He's going to do a lot of good.
		And it's not until that first three and a half years that I think the power will go to his head and he becomes pure evil.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm not ruling out the possibility it's a woman.
unidentified		I beg your pardon?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm not ruling out the possibility it's a woman.
unidentified		Oh, you're not?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm not.
unidentified		Well, okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And besides, tonight we'll tell the story.
		I mean, we'll see.
		It's entirely possible the Antichrist could be a woman.
		And that the references to he just could have been a sort of a sign of the times.
		Where anything significant would have been a he.
		When you think about it, the Antichrist could easily Be a woman out there, maybe working in an office, a housewife, your bus driver, your school teacher, your Sunday school teacher, anybody.
		A wildcard line, you're on me or hi.
unidentified		Hey, how you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm okay.
unidentified		Oh, that's good.
unidentified		I just got one thing briefly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		On the year 2K problem.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why 2K, yes.
unidentified		What do you think?
		I mean, you're pretty computer literate.
		What about basically just never letting the computer get to 0-0?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, Gary North talked a little bit about that, about, for example, skipping the year and just going to 2001 for a year.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And that might solve some problems, he alluded to that possibility, but not many.
		And the problem with Y2K is that there are a lot where they can't even do that.
		And all of this is written into code which was compiled with compilers that don't even exist anymore.
		And it's going to turn over no matter what.
		And there's going to be a domino effect.
		Now, whether you buy into that serious an effect or not, I think clearly something is going to happen.
unidentified		Yeah, I was thinking even if you always just sort of backtracked and kept it in 1999 for a few years, it might give you more headaches for the computer, but at least it wouldn't flip to 2000 and cause all this breakdown.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, we'll see.
		They had quite a deal on C-SPAN earlier today about it, and it seems to me that most of what Gary North said seemed to be pretty much right on track.
		That's just me.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Oh, hi, Art.
		I've got a news flash for you.
		This is Mark in Houston.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, Mark.
unidentified		I listened to you on KTRH.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's the one.
unidentified		We had an astronaut imposter arrested here at Johnson Space Center today.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		An astronaut imposter?
unidentified		Yes, sir.
		Unbelievable.
		You're kidding?
		Do we have security over there or what?
		He actually didn't have a house or an apartment.
		He had an RV.
		I know there's been a lot of cutbacks, but I mean, that's kind of impossible to believe.
		But he had top-level access.
		He went to Pensacola and he flew a trainer, and then he went to Harpus Christi Naval Air Station.
		He flew a jet down there, and he just cruised around.
		And I need you to do a little follow-up on that.
		I didn't catch it all on the news tonight, but I wanted you to be the first one to know because I know you've got a lot of connections.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He was just stammered.
		I mean, what was the object of the impersonation?
		Why?
unidentified		I really don't know.
unidentified		I didn't have the TV turned up, and I didn't get all the full story, but they went out and interviewed neighbors at the RV park.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Maybe he wanted to take a ride.
unidentified		He was a wannabe.
		He actually had the top-level security.
		He actually sat at the console for two days during one of the launch missions.
		Ha, you're kidding.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Next thing we hear, he's going to be part of a crew, sort of a stowaway that manages to get on or something.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wouldn't that be incredible?
unidentified		You know, that's one of the basic things.
		You know, know the next guy to you.
		You don't know who you're working with.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, I thank you for the call.
		Yeah, if you've got the right badge, the right briefcase, and you look like you know where you're going, it is amazing where you can get.
		Coming up, the Antichrist Line.
		First time ever.
unidentified		This is Premier Networks.
		That was our Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM.
		on this, Somewhere in Time.
		I'm going to go to the next episode.
		And in the springtime of the year, when the trees are crowned with leaves, and the ash and look and their birch and you, and dressed in ribbons here.
		When hours come.
		You're listening to Art Bell somewhere in time.
		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from June 2nd, 1998.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I hear somebody in North Dakota says the Antichrist will not be calling tonight because he doesn't listen to your program.
		And he has too much on his mind.
		He's busy.
		Well, who knows?
		Wouldn't you imagine that if he or she is out there, that he or she would definitely, definitely listen to this program?
		Maybe more than any other.
unidentified		You bet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, how would we know, write somebody else, that we've got the real Antichrist?
		In other words, actually, Kevin in Tampa says, just out of curiosity, what happens if the real Antichrist calls in, would we believe him slash her?
		Well, yeah, that's going to be a problem, of course.
		I mean, you can only kind of go by vibes, what you feel.
		You've got to imagine the probability that most are not the real thing, but that out of the calls that you're going to hear, and you're going to hear them because the line's ringing off the hook, that out there somewhere, the Antichrist could be alive and would call in, and it would be up to you to discern when you really heard that voice.
		in answer again to the question of uh...
unidentified		what the antichrist is doing right now somebody wrote early on a late night radio program Now, we take you back to the past on Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Art Bell Somewhere in Time If the Antichrist is in the U.S., what state do you think the Antichrist would most likely be in?
		Everybody's going to say California, right?
		Well, that'd be the thing.
		It might fool you.
		The Antichrist might be in a really rural state like North or South Dakota.
		Arkansas.
		You never know.
		Just to fool you.
		While you're thinking the Antichrist is in California, actually, he's in the heartland.
unidentified		Maybe even the Bible Belt.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Got to imagine that, too, right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, that line is about to get activated.
unidentified		On the Antichrist line.
unidentified		You're on the air.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello there.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're on the air.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		My name is Nicholas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Nicholas.
unidentified		I'm from Kentucky.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Nicholas in Kentucky, already suspicious.
unidentified		Why is that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Nicholas, I could imagine that somebody of true evil would take a name associated with great joy, as in St. Nicholas, as in St. Nicholas.
unidentified		It was given to me by my mother, so I'm not sure about that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Your mother, huh?
unidentified		Yeah, it's a little difficult for me to talk about.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		understand that i mean i had how long have you got You've believed that you're the Antichrist for six months?
unidentified		And I would not claim to believe that, but it's something that seems to be coming forced upon me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Forced?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, of course you can't help yourself, right?
unidentified		No, it doesn't seem so.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In what way has it begun to manifest itself in you?
		I mean, do you think constant evil thoughts?
		Are you amoral?
unidentified		No, not at all.
		In fact, if I can just relate what had happened that brought me to this conclusion, or is bringing me to this conclusion.
		Yes.
		Last summer, my mother died in a car accident, and I was with her in the car.
		This was in August of 97.
		We took her to the hospital, and she had about a day left.
		I really don't know much about her background.
		I never knew my father.
		But as far as I knew, she was raised in eastern Kentucky.
		I was brought up Pentecostal.
		And she revealed to me that my grandmother, who's actually British, had been involved in things like the Temple of the Golden Dawn.
		I knew nothing about this, frankly.
		And it was shocking to me, especially as a Christian.
		But afterwards, strange events, I guess you would call them, began to happen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Like what?
unidentified		Well, for one, my occipital bone in our accident was seriously damaged.
		And I had essentially lost sight in both of my eyes.
		And according to, at least the doctors, I was not supposed to regain sight.
		Because once that bone is damaged and the trauma to the optic nerve and so forth.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But you regain sight.
unidentified		I regain sight.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, what does that have to do with being the antichrist?
unidentified		Well, it doesn't have anything to do, actually.
		What's strange is as I was regaining sight, for one, the scar left above my right eyebrows.
		What does that have to do with being actually a 666 scar?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, now that has a lot to do with it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You have a 666 scar?
unidentified		A minute 666 scar.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my word.
unidentified		And what happened after this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		When did you find that?
unidentified		Excuse me?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I said, when did you find that?
unidentified		Essentially, when I regained sight.
		Oh.
		I thought, I mean, you can't.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Boy, better to stay blind than come back and take a look and find.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And there's really, you can actually discern six.
unidentified		It's clearly discernible.
		In fact, I haven't really.
		The traumatic things that began to happen, though, were after this, one of the preachers that my mother had had contact with had visited because of the funeral and so forth, obviously.
		He had some very strange things to say about the situation.
		I don't go in for astrology, things like this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A lot of people always did think that the Antichrist would be a scientist, by the way.
unidentified		Well, I'm a geneticist.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that cinches it right there.
unidentified		Why does that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, because that's just something that everybody figures.
		Genetics, scientists, three sixes.
		You're doing real well here.
		Now I see why you believe you might be the Antichrist.
unidentified		Well, it has nothing to do with science, actually.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How old are you?
unidentified		I'm now 31.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		31.
unidentified		I was born in the Summer of Love, 67.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Summer of Love.
		Love child, no doubt, huh?
		Is that what your mom said?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you're a pretty scary dude.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, what do you think lays in the future for you?
unidentified		Well, I...
		that's...
		I have a small trust fund left for my mother that is very small.
		I mean, we're not talking wealthy.
		And I'm basically staying in.
		What has been happening is after this incident, the preacher that my mother knew said he saw some sort of terrible aura around me now, basically a black aura, and wanted me to come to his church.
		I came and an elderly woman there who was arthritic asked me to heal her.
		And this, to me, seemed ridiculous.
		I actually didn't put my hand on her.
		She took my hand and placed it on hers, her arthritic hands.
		And about a week later, I received a call to come and visit her that she was healed.
		And she was.
		Her hand, I mean, I think this is wonderful.
		Her hand was fine.
		It was as good as a 20-year-old.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Have you considered some sort of surgery to erase this triple six?
unidentified		Yes, I have.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Because, I mean, it just probably in Kentucky doesn't.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Of course, how do you cover it up?
unidentified		The problem is that the actual scar is reflected in the bone.
unidentified		I talked to a doctor about this a month ago.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You mean to say they saw it in x-ray?
unidentified		There is a scar of 666 on the occipital bone.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well...
unidentified		And what's becoming odd about this is...
unidentified		As I said, 31.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		31.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Boy, that would be just about the right age, too.
unidentified		Well, the odd thing now is that I've began again to go to church.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I had quit when I went to finish my Ph.D. Do you think that when you're in church, those around you and or the priest detect and feel something, they know they're in the presence of you?
unidentified		Yes, in fact, over the past six months, I've talked with several rabbis, several Catholic priests, one Greek Orthodox priest, several Native American church leaders, actually not in the Native American church, but elders.
		I've talked with dozens of people, and basically they have the same response.
		It says, as one priest told me, I've healed about 12 people now and seem to have this gift, and I can't explain that.
		It's a wonderful gift.
		But he told me that based on a lot of dreams I was having, dreams of the world on fire, things like this, he said that he explained to me, he said, you have a faith and not anything that can be done about it.
		And I should accept it.
		Which, like I said, I fell away during graduate school from this religion and from Christianity.
		But now, especially seeing some of this with my own eyes, I detect nothing evil in it.
		In fact, it's a great gift.
		And basically, what I've been doing as I'm at home now is working on some of the theories I had tried to finish in grad school.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do me a big favor, will you?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Before you have any surgery, if you're going to, take a photograph of X-rays.
unidentified		Oh, I have x-rays.
unidentified		Oh, God.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Send me one of them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		Do I send them fax?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
		Faxes are insufficient for this.
		Mail it to me.
		Would you send that to me?
unidentified		I'd gladly send it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Thank you very, very much.
		Wow.
		Well, there is a good beginning.
		Or a bad beginning.
		Depending on how you look at it.
		X-rays, huh?
		Actual X-rays of 666 on the bone?
		Along with what his mom told him.
		Okay, wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Yeah, this is Chris.
unidentified		I'm calling from WGST.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's Atlanta, Georgia.
		Chris, turn your radio off.
		That's number one.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, good.
		You've got it turned off.
		Now, what's on your mind?
unidentified		I was watching the news the other day, or actually it was Discovery Channel.
		Yes.
		And they had something about the Sphinx on there that is possibly dated 15,000 years before the Egyptians.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There are many who believe that, yes.
unidentified		And I remember seeing something on sightings one night about they had Edgar Cayce, the sleeping prophet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And he said that there was a chamber underneath from Paul.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, absolutely.
		I mean, most people know that.
		I had Edgar Casey's son.
		I interviewed him.
		I did that about a month and a half ago or so.
unidentified		Yeah, and when they were doing that thing, they had some geologists doing the sphinx, and they found a chamber underneath when they were testing the ground below.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, they have had scientists there that have done studies with ground-penetrating radar, which may or may not be trustworthy.
		They're doing some experiments right now over there to try and determine the trustworthiness of the images shown with ground-penetrating radar.
		And the way to do that, obviously, is to dig a chamber yourself and then to test your ground-penetrating radar and see if it shows an equivalent of what you're seeing or think you're seeing.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hey, buddy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hey, there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Turn your radio off.
unidentified		This is Carl in Minneapolis.
unidentified		The radio's down.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good for you.
unidentified		I have two topics that are vital importance to the world and to all of your listeners.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, if it's the world, it's going to include my listeners.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Number one.
unidentified		You can make the world a better place.
		Number one was The jet stream coming down on deck.
		I heard that on your show years ago.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ed Dames said it would happen.
unidentified		It happened here in Minneapolis just the other day.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know it.
unidentified		And I believe that the tornado caused by the El Niño, the quarter-mile-wide tornado, sucked the airstream down right on deck.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, anything's possible, but the fact is, Ed Dames said it would begin to happen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And when he said it, three years ago, people laughed.
unidentified		And it's happening, people.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They said jet stream on the ground.
unidentified		Ha ha ha ha.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, guess what?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's underway right now, huh?
unidentified		It's happening.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know.
unidentified		It's scary.
		And wake up, people, and please pay attention.
		Now, my second topic, sir?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Regarding your Guinness Book of World record for the most consecutive hours on the radio at one time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
unidentified		How many hours is that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		116 hours and 15 minutes, and it no longer is a record.
		It hasn't been for quite a while.
		A guy in Denver broke it.
unidentified		Okay.
		Well, check this out.
		I have a record that you did a lot of good, a lot better, a lot more good than that guy in Denver, I'm sure, with your record and what you did.
		And let's do it again, Art.
		Let's save a bunch of kids.
		Let's help some kids out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're referring to Vietnam.
unidentified		Let's do it.
unidentified		People, listeners, let's get our bell to have a radio telephon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I wouldn't do it.
unidentified		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm not doing it anymore.
		No way.
		As a matter of fact, I am convinced that doing that affected me for life.
		I was on the air for 116 hours and 15 minutes consecutively, which was from Monday morning through Saturday afternoon.
		And I had visions.
		I'll talk to you about it sometime.
		It was really, really interesting what it did to me.
		Well, let me see.
		On my Antichrist line, you are on the air.
		Hello.
		Hey there.
		Hey there.
unidentified		Dennis from.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Dennis, turn your radio off first.
unidentified		Just a moment.
unidentified		That's important.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Antichrist ought to know that.
unidentified		I'm back.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why do you believe you might be the Antichrist?
unidentified		Well, I'm sorry that I have to say I am not the Antichrist.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, then why have you called this line?
unidentified		Because I want to tell you that those that have the name Vicarious Philii days...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Call me on another line.
		That's the Antichrist line.
		Now, you see, when I answer it randomly, that's what I get.
		That's what I get.
		Let me try again.
		Antichrist line, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		I'm not the Antichrist.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, then, you're on the wrong line, too.
unidentified		See?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That is only for people who believe that they are the Antichrist.
		Like the first guy.
		So don't call me on that line.
		I mean, you're just wasting money, is all.
		Only if you think you're the Antichrist should you call that number.
		The Antichrist line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Um hi, I I just woke up and picked up the phone.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you the Antichrist?
unidentified		I really hope not.
		I don't know what's going on here.
		I just picked up the why did you do that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		When I have an Antichrist line here.
unidentified		No, oh, then this is happening again.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's happening again.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's like a terrible nightmare.
unidentified		No, you see, oh man.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Maybe you are the Antichrist.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Maybe you just were awakened by even your pointed ears were burning.
unidentified		Is this a joke?
		No!
		Okay, hold on.
		This is the...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You really mean that?
unidentified		My phone...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Your phone rang.
		And there I was, right?
		Is that correct?
		Is that what you're telling me?
		Your phone rang.
unidentified		Okay, something's silly going on here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah?
		I don't know.
		You came out of a deep sleep.
		Is that what I'm to understand?
unidentified		I'm to understand.
		Oh, my.
		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, what?
unidentified		I knew this was coming.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is you, isn't it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Isn't it?
unidentified		Oh, man.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Don't breathe hard.
		Speak.
		Time is money.
unidentified		This kid.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You more than anybody ought to know that.
unidentified		They kept telling me every time when the phone rings, pick it up.
		Oh, my.
		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, we got to go.
		I'm Art Bell.
		This is Coast to Coast A.M. The Antichrist Line is alive.
unidentified		The trip back in time continues with Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM.
		More somewhere in time coming.
		Someone on the fiddle and playing it hot.
		And the devil jumps up on the hipster jumps.
		And boy, let me take it watch.
		I get you getting annoyed, but I'm a fiddle player too.
		And if you care to take a dare, I'll make a bet with you.
		Now, you play pretty good fiddle, boy, but give the devil his view.
		I bet a fiddle of gold against your soul, cause I think I'm better than you.
		The boy said, my name's Johnny, and it might be a sin.
		But I'll take your bet you're going to regret because I'm the best as ever been.
		Listen to the wind blow, watch the sun rise.
		Run in the shadows, damn your love, damn your life.
		Run in the shadows, damn your love, damn your love.
		Run in the shadows, damn your love.
		But in the shadows Now, we take you back to the past on Art Bell somewhere in time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, folks, we've got the Antichrist line open.
		It's open right now.
		And we have canceled the first-time caller line for the night.
		Devoting it to the Antichrist line already.
		There have been a couple of very unnerving calls.
unidentified		You're listening to Art Bell somewhere in Time.
unidentified		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from June 2nd, 1998.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, um, here we go again.
unidentified		The Antichrist line.
unidentified		You're upon the air.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You, uh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You claim to be the Antichrist?
unidentified		I claim to know what I know and to be who I am.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, this is the Antichrist line, so that's who you got to be.
unidentified		Well, let's.
unidentified		As far as you're concerned.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		As far as I'm concerned, that's who you are.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you have the radio on?
unidentified		No, I do not.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What am I hearing in the background?
unidentified		You are not hearing anything.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I am.
unidentified		No, I'm not.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Unless you're projecting that into my head and in the heads of all my listeners because they can hear it too.
unidentified		I'm projecting that in your head.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, you're out of here.
		You might have been good, but you're out of here.
		I don't care if you are the Antichrist.
		If you don't turn down your radio, you get blown out of here every time.
		International Line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Good morning, Art.
		How are you this morning?
		Steve calling from Ecum Seekum, Nova Scotia.
		How are you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I'm fine.
unidentified		Great.
		One thing your show is not, and that's boring.
		Oh, no.
		Very interesting.
		Yep.
		But you know, the column just before the hour there, that fella, you shouldn't have woke him up like that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That was pretty weird.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it's like the connection was simply made by a third party.
unidentified		Sure it was.
unidentified		Everyone knows that the Antichrist was on South Park several episodes back.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know, and they had him in a battle with Jesus.
unidentified		That's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right?
		That was quite the battle, too.
		If I could come up, now, see, that has, of course, occurred to me.
		If I could come up with a really good sounding Antichrist, one who really might be the real thing, or sounds to be the real thing, then I might go for the other side, and then we could have such a battle right here between good and evil.
unidentified		Well, I'm sure they'll be putting Vega sats on it anyway.
		Actually, the reason I was calling tonight, Art, was I was just reading in the local paper here over the weekend.
		I guess it was Monday.
		South Dakota, today, June 3rd, 1998, I think they're unveiling the first portion of the largest sculptural undertaking in the world.
		That was the Crazy Horse Monument.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		You knew about that, did you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I heard about that.
unidentified		I guess it's just the head and face section right now, and it's supposedly gazing sternly over the South Dakota mountaintops.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
unidentified		Head being nine stories high.
		And I guess when it's finished, it's going to be complete with horse.
		Outstretched arm will be as long as the football field, and overall it'll dwarf the pyramids.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did you see the man who worked on that all of his life?
		They did a story on him.
		They did a story on his family.
		And now his family is carrying the work on.
unidentified		That's right.
		For the past 50 years, I guess he had been working on it.
		You got it.
		That's quite an undertaking.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's his life's work.
		I appreciate your call, and now his family is going to carry it on.
		Well, dare I once again pick it up?
		It's ringing like crazy.
		Never stopping.
		It's ringing, ringing, ringing.
		That's right.
		The Antichrist line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
		Yeah, hi.
		Hi.
		Yeah, I was calling, talk to Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You've got me.
unidentified		This is Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Yeah, this is.
		Well, I'm not going to say my name, Art.
		No.
		I've been listening to you off and on.
		My dad is an old fan of yours.
		Listen, this line.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know what this line is for, right?
unidentified		Yes, I do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		All right.
		Well, then, is it you?
unidentified		Well, Art, um, you're on a subject that has been kind of in and out of my life.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In what way?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And in what way?
unidentified		Well, we're talking dreams.
unidentified		From the time I was 11 years old, I started a dream that I had for almost two weeks ago.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I can barely hear you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You had a dream about what?
unidentified		Well, if that to describe the dream would take me a while, aren't it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't have a long time, so you've got to give us the nutshell version here.
unidentified		Okay, you're on the air and talking to me at the same time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, it's however.
unidentified		Okay, you're talking about Antichrist.
		First of all, I want to know Why are you digging?
		First of all, you're bringing up things that are negative.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Because that's what I do.
unidentified		Well, I know that's what you do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's what I do.
unidentified		You're bringing people to think negative thoughts here.
		Well, we may, you know what?
		We may bring about destruction of the world through our thoughts.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Through my show.
unidentified		No, not the destination.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It could destroy the entire world.
unidentified		No, people are going to do it anyway.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, if that's what happened, wouldn't that be right down your alley?
unidentified		Well, I don't want to see that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, then you must not be the Antichrist.
unidentified		Is that right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So, see, you're saved.
unidentified		How do you know?
unidentified		How do you know what anti-means?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've certainly read about Christ's life.
unidentified		And if it's fine, Jesus is my brother.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, well, no, see, now, now, see?
		You are not even close to the Antichrist.
		You weaseled your way around until you were about to preach to me.
		Not going to happen.
		Antichrist line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		You called.
		You asked me to call.
		What do you need?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you claim to be the Antichrist?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, then there's many questions that I have for you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		First of all, how do you know that you are the Antichrist?
unidentified		How dare you have preconceived notions of what the Antichrist is have a valuable opportunity to talk?
		I would not even plan to be able to do that.
		I don't even planning on coming out to talk to the public.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		But this is the first show ever that said, will the real Antichrist please stand up?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's correct.
unidentified		I was very intrigued, and just as an aside, I must say you have an excellent show.
		I don't know if it was fate, but a couple of months ago, my cousin at a birthday party said she was listening to this unique man at night.
		And although I do work during the day, I wish I was on the beach, as the other guys said, drinking a margarita.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's what people imagine, but you know what people imagine is rarely true.
		And you're right.
		How dare I imagine to know what the Antichrist is?
		So you tell me.
unidentified		What the Antichrist wants?
		He is a man that comes along not by his choosing, just as Jesus was not by his own choosing.
		That's right.
		And I guess it was about the fourth or fifth grade that I was able to project myself over and have outer body experiences.
		Yes.
		When I was in junior high school, I started having global thoughts as far as getting a sense that this is really hard to explain, and I don't want to take up a lot of your time trying to explain the thought processes involved, but God speaks through one person at a time during each generation.
		That person may not even know it.
		And every 500 years or so, that person feels it really strongly.
		And every 2,000 years or so, that person feels it strongly enough to be imbued with the Spirit of God.
		Now, people have a conception of the Antichrist, that he is the devil.
		Believe me, I am not the devil.
		It's just that this time, I don't care about the world.
		You saw what happened the last time, that I manifested myself.
		They nailed me to a tree.
		It's not going to happen this time because I'm going to be incognito.
		I am allowed to start talking about it from the year 1998 on.
		That is why I permitted myself to call tonight.
		What is about to happen is going to happen.
		Even if I tell you what's going to happen, you will not be able to stop it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's quite all right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Tell me.
unidentified		All right.
		Once again, you're a skeptic.
		You're thinking that this is a hoax, which is fine.
		It's going to start about...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm really not.
		I'll listen to you.
		It's going to start when?
unidentified		I did not read your book, The Quickening, but I can grasp what it was probably about just by the inferences that you make to it.
		And you are right.
		Nature is going to play a part up to a point.
		But nature doesn't have to do anything.
		We're going to do it all to ourselves.
		We've already started.
		If you notice, we are animals.
		We have this mighty high opinion of ourselves, but we're nothing more than animals.
		And we are the same animal that evolved to take a very slow life that we used to live up until a couple hundred years ago.
		We are now way too fast to ourselves.
		We talk before we think.
		And technology is bombarding us with no time to react, contemplate, and ponder our next action.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, I don't know what to do.
		I don't need to hear what the current trends are.
		I know what they are.
unidentified		All right, Art.
		I am sorry.
		The year 2006 is when it will start.
		And it will start by the United States, which is the reason that I have decided that the world must reshuffle the deck.
		The world is not going to come to an end.
		We're just going to shuffle the deck.
		The United States economy will implode upon itself.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		2006.
unidentified		2006.
		I would start buying gold right now, if anyone wants to believe me.
		In the year 2006, world monetary speculators, just as they've done to Russia, just as they've done to Indonesia, just as they will do to Japan in about six or seven months, Are going to make a run on our currency.
		It'll be our turn.
		Do you know that we have what we profess to be a $5 trillion debt, which is actually more like $18 trillion if you add in Medicaid and Social Security?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're not sounding very Antichrist-like.
unidentified		What the Antichrist is, is somebody that has the power to stop this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is that you?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And by what means?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And by what, well, sure.
unidentified		By what means will you stop it?
		If I were to get into politics and become the President of the United States in the year 2000.
		But I have chosen not to because I have deemed this world not worthy of saving at this time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, under no conditions will you accept that job?
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		Well, all right, then you would ask.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If you cannot, then if asked, you would refuse.
unidentified		I apologize.
unidentified		I did not hear your last statement.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If asked, you would refuse.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You would not run.
unidentified		No, I would run.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You would run?
unidentified		If asked, but they will not ask.
		If Jesus came back, they would not believe him today.
		People today are so skeptical.
		They're so self-confident.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		of course they are in the book say something That's how silly they are.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Bill and Bill Clinton?
unidentified		The first man who had a wreck of his car with a 666 on his forehead thinks he's the Antichrist.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, what about the guy last hour who had the 666 on his bone?
unidentified		If he was the real Antichrist, he would have been born with it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And were you?
unidentified		No, because the whole idea of a 666 is a silly anecdotal phrase.
		It comes from some part of the Bible.
		It has no validity and truth.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, now I'm a nice guy.
unidentified		I have great love for the world.
unidentified		In fact, I have more respect for animals than I do most human beings.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you come at it a little like Christopher Walken.
		You're now a little more believable.
		You're a nice guy, huh?
unidentified		I'm a nice guy.
		I see the future.
		And at this time, you know what the cardinal sin is of this world?
		And I don't mean to sound cliched, but God is very upset about abortion.
		Not just because we have chosen to abort little babies.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but you must be all in favor of abortion.
unidentified		So you once again have the wrong idea of the Antichrist.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The Antichrist was out there actually doing God's work, huh?
unidentified		The First Christ was public.
		I am private.
		The First Christ had a positive outlook on the way the world could turn out.
		The Antichrist has seen the last 2,000 years and knows that it was not possible to save the world.
		Do you understand what I just said?
		The original Christ was public.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I am private.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You are private.
unidentified		The original Christ died to redeem the world.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And what is your role?
unidentified		I must cleanse the world.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You must cleanse it.
		All right, so what is your role going to be in bringing all of this on?
		You will bring it on.
unidentified		I have already brought it on.
		The wheels are in motion.
		They cannot be stopped unless we take action right now, and we are too silly and too stupid to take action right now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, I appreciate your call, but it seems to me the Antichrist would be more sure of himself.
		Not somebody saying, change your ways, get godly or else.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		Hi, this is Cheryl.
unidentified		Calling from Jackson, Michigan.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Jackson, Michigan.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ah, yes.
unidentified		I think you're the Antichrist.
unidentified		Let me tell you why.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
unidentified		We can't get any work done around here because all these guys sit around and listen to you all night.
unidentified		Talking about aliens and devils.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You've got to consider that.
		It's true.
		I talk about what?
		I talk about ghosts.
		I talk about spirits.
		I talk about flying saucers.
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I talk about...
unidentified		Art, we can't even get our donuts delivered on time because our donut man listens to you in his car.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you see, I'm affecting the flock.
unidentified		Yes.
		And I definitely don't think the Antichrist is a woman.
		That is a man.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You are the second woman to say that.
unidentified		That's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And that seems rather sexist.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, if Christ was a male, as we know, then why could the Antichrist not even logically be female?
unidentified		I just don't think a female, no way.
		It's got to be a male.
		I just wanted to let you know, Art, that these guys all love you, and they're not getting any work done.
		Well, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Under the circumstances, I'm not sure they should love me.
unidentified		But they do, and they didn't think I would get through.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, so see, guys, she got through.
unidentified		That's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		She was meant to get through tonight.
unidentified		That's right.
unidentified		But we do love you, Art, and I hope you find what you're looking for.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		Me too.
		I wish that for everybody, that you find what you're looking for.
		On my Antichrist line, you are on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		You know who this is?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No?
unidentified		This is not the Antichrist, but this is the Anti-Antichrist.
		And my number is 999, and many people know it.
		Well, as an 11-year-old boy, don't you have it turned upside down?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Everybody else thinks it's 6 and 6 and 6.
unidentified		I'm the anti-Antichrist.
		I am 999.
		I am the Antichrist hunter.
		And people think I'm evil because I understand everything he thinks and everything he plans.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, you weren't listening.
		Did I ask for the anti-Antichrist?
		No, I asked for the Antichrist.
		Well, you're on the wrong line, aren't you?
unidentified		Well, this is very intriguing that people...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I said Antichrist.
unidentified		Not anti-anti, not Antichrist Hunter.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Just Antichrist.
		See, people just don't listen.
		So frustrating.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
unidentified		This is Dan in Virginia.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, Dan, in Virginia.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How are you doing?
unidentified		Fantastic.
unidentified		Did you know yesterday that the Capitol, the U.S. Capitol, was exorcised?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I heard that.
		Yes, I know that an exorcist went there and I believe pointed a sword up toward the steps in a symbolic exorcism.
		And then after the ceremony, he declared he failed.
unidentified		I'm bad I didn't hear.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he declared he failed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you can't imagine that one simple ceremony, particularly on the steps of the Capitol, could cleanse all that is wrong there.
unidentified		Oh, I agree with that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's too many devils drive out all at once.
unidentified		I just thought it was incredible that Steven put it on the news.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They did.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, it was one of those items they put on the news, and I thought, how appropriate and honest that he would say he failed.
unidentified		I agree.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Also, check with Standeo on the earthquake and the bombs.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Okay, thanks.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, thank you.
		Standeo has a view on the earthquake and the bombs, huh?
		Guess I ought to do that.
		I'm Art Bell, and this is Coast to Coast AM.
unidentified		The trip back in Time continues, with Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM.
		More Somewhere in Time coming up.
		More Somewhere in Time coming up.
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		Oh, yeah.
		Thank you.
		Premier Networks presents Art Bell somewhere in time tonight, featuring Coast to Coast AM from June 2nd, 1998.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It well may be the Antichrist is located outside the country, right?
		Or he may be right here.
		So if the Antichrist is outside the country, then he needs to call me on the international line.
unidentified		You know, I never forgot about that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How could I have let that slip?
		The Antichrist could be in Canada?
		May well be in Canada.
		Antichrist could be in Australia, New Zealand, British Isles, Switzerland, anywhere, right?
		So I'll have to take Antichrist calls on the international line as well, which of course is available to you right now.
		You get the AT ⁇ T operator in whatever country you're in, Transylvania, and call 800-893-0903, and you'll get through it.
		It's free call from anywhere in the world.
unidentified		It's free call from anywhere in the world.
unidentified		You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time, tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM, from June 2nd, 1998.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, here we go again.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		On the Antichrist line.
unidentified		You're on the air.
unidentified		Hello, my child.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Child, your child?
		It is I. It is you, huh?
		It's really you.
unidentified		The one and only.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How are we to know?
		What can you tell us that will make us believe you are the one?
		You live now and you are the one.
unidentified		There is evil everywhere, for I am the one giving it out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're actually causing the evil.
unidentified		Our children are my children.
unidentified		So what are our children doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Evil things in many cases.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you claim to be responsible for that.
unidentified		Who else could be responsible?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good point.
		Good point.
		What are your plans for the future?
unidentified		Destruction.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Utter destruction?
unidentified		Utter destruction.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Fire and brimstone?
unidentified		If you will, I tell one thing to all.
		three evil words.
		Tommy Boy Malloy, gotcha!
		W.A.B.C.
		Carnage Lever Rude!
		laughter
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you can't count.
		That was far more than three words.
		You're an underachiever.
		On my Antichrist line, you're on the air.
		Neil Rogers is the Antichrist.
		Neil Rogers?
		What are you hung up to?
		Think Neil Rogers is?
		Most people think Bill Gates or Bill Clinton.
		On my Antichrist line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello?
unidentified		Yeah, is this our bell?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good guess.
unidentified		Hold on a second.
unidentified		I gotta get these earphones off my head, okay?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		All right, you called in and you asked for a verification.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, are you the Antichrist?
unidentified		Okay, the parable is this.
		I'm either the Hebrew Messiah or I'm the Christian Antichrist.
		Am I the one person or am I two separate persons?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you just want some proof?
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let's have it.
unidentified		Okay.
		There are six beasts in Genesis, and they start from Canaan and go to Lamesh.
		If you want to take these numbers down, and all your listeners too, get their pencils out, you'll have the verification.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And how many numbers are there?
unidentified		There are six numbers.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, give them to me.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		Starting at Canaan now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now just give me the numbers.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		70.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		70.
unidentified		65.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		65.
unidentified		162.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		162.
unidentified		65.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		65.
unidentified		187.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		187.
unidentified		And 182.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		182.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And those are the numbers that prove that you are the Antichrist.
unidentified		No, hold on now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		70, 65.
unidentified		Okay, now out of those numbers, you have to take Enox 65 years away.
unidentified		Because when you total the total six numbers, it comes to 731.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		And if you take Enoch 65 birth years away, you end up with 666.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'll be darned if you don't.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You sure do.
unidentified		I know everything about the Bible and everything that's coming, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You do?
unidentified		Yes, call me back and have your callers make sure they want me to come on.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're welcome.
		All right.
		Well, there is the proof.
		70, 65, 162, 65, 187, which is the murder thing, right?
		182 is 731 minus 65.
		Obviously.
		6.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hi.
		Hello there.
unidentified		Hello?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello?
unidentified		Who's this?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Who do you think it is?
		The R. Bell Show.
		It's the only possibility.
		I'm the only one here.
unidentified		Okay.
		That's good.
		Hey, Art.
		This is your affiliate, WKBZ of Muskegon, Michigan.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ah, yes.
unidentified		Yeah, it's Walt, the engineer.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Walt.
unidentified		I'll tell you what, Art.
unidentified		You know, you're talking about the weather?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		We got our butt kicked.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know.
unidentified		Big time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Look, most of the meteorologists who have spoken on this have said the jet stream came and touched the ground.
unidentified		That's it.
		You got it.
		We've been running on We've been running on a World War II submarine diesel engine on a big generator since Sunday night.
		Wow.
		And the solid-state transmitters don't like it because it's not frequency stable, so I have to fire up the old tube type.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		That's right.
		Solid-state gets real picky when you start getting a few cycles off.
unidentified		Oh, yeah, especially the transmitters because their modulation scheme is based on 60 cycles, and if it's even a cycle off, man, it's not good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I know that, and I had to go and get a much better generator for my location here.
unidentified		That's what we're thinking about here, too.
unidentified		We had a problem getting the old diesel bird fired up, but we got it up, and we kept you on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		When do you expect that you're going to get commercial power back?
unidentified		Well, the thing is, we've been on sporadically with the generator, but steady, since about early Monday morning, and we had the power company, I finally called and complained and said, we're media, get us back on.
unidentified		They showed up here about 11.30 with a truck and started going down the road, and we haven't seen it since.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, man.
unidentified		Who knows?
unidentified		But in the state of Michigan, they still got over 200,000 people out of power.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		My God, 200,000?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		People have no idea how violent the weather has been this year.
unidentified		Well, it was.
		Well, I stood at my front door and watched this storm come through, and it came through at 70 miles an hour, they said.
		And it was horizontal rain.
		I could swear there's trees uprooted all over the place here.
		And I could swear I saw the maples in my front yard.
		Those trunks were bent and I was crossing my fingers.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's scary stuff.
unidentified		You got that right.
unidentified		My wife was sitting in the couch just going, oh, my God.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, I've been saying, as you well know, for a long time now, that we are in the middle of a quickly changing weather pattern.
unidentified		Well, I believe it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I think it's self-evident now.
		Where it's going to go, I have no idea.
		But the fact that it is changing, no question about global warming, whatever you want to believe is doing it, something's doing it, and it is changing.
		That's all I know.
unidentified		Yeah, I wish I had a Bajan free play with the light, I'll tell you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, my advice is to get on the list and get one.
unidentified		Yeah, I've got some other stuff from C. Crane.
unidentified		He's got a pretty cool place going there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Very cool.
unidentified		Very cool.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know why?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Because when they began, they dedicated themselves to finding and selling the best, and they really meant it.
		And they test and they sell nothing but the best.
		It's a very unique company.
unidentified		And it's very good, too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, my friend.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		Thank you, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You take care.
		And thanks for keeping us up on the air with a generator.
		Can you imagine that?
		Since Sunday?
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
		Oh, yes.
		Intriguing night, Art.
		This is Lee from Gay Harbor.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		I have a possibly relevant little news clip for you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		This comes from the little metropolis of Hell, Michigan.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hell, Michigan.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There is indeed such a place, isn't there?
unidentified		Yes, I've been there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Uh-huh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And back.
unidentified		And back.
		This news clip, they sent me this without saying what paper it came from, but it probably came from the Jackson Citizen Patriot.
		And it states that it may be a little harder to go to hell this year because the bridge on the main road to hell is badly in need of repair, a project that could close the road for three months.
		And the business owners are complaining.
		The president of the Hell Chamber of Commerce, Jim Lay, claims it'll close the town and send stores into bankruptcy.
		So the officials acknowledge that the repair work is going to cause disruption, but they insist that their plans to fix the road to hell spring from good intentions.
		The road suffers damage each year when hell Freezes over.
		When hell freezes over, which I'm sure it does on a regular basis in Michigan.
		Absolutely, it does.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is there any lore on why they named their town hell?
unidentified		I don't know.
		I have no idea.
		I went there many, many years ago, and at that time, in the 60s, it was a very, very tiny, tiny little town, which really didn't appear to have, you know, outstanding natural features, you know, like bubbly mud pots or anything.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know what they could do that would really boost tourism?
unidentified		What's that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They could drill a really, really deep hole.
unidentified		You know, I thought about that hole when I saw this article.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, there you are.
		As you all know, we have, thank you very much for the call, the sounds from hell.
		We have those.
		And I've got them right here.
		Now, it is claimed that these were recorded in Siberia with a microphone that was located into a, actually lowered into, not all the way in, but lowered into a nine-mile deep hole.
		And here's what they came up with.
		Listen.
		It is.
unidentified		On the Antichrist line.
		You're on the air.
		Heart.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Am I here?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, only you know that for sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But yes, yes, you're on the air.
unidentified		I mean with you.
		That's good.
		This is Nick, Satan, Scratch, Beelzebub, the devil, the father of lies, the enemy of righteousness, the prince of darkness.
		It is you, I would say.
		Although I do appreciate the other callers.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, of course you do.
		They are your subjects.
		You have a sense of humor, I can at least.
unidentified		Well, sure.
unidentified		I was going to give you a little background.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do you think about the guy who gave me the numbers 70, 65, 162, 65, 187, 182, and then deducted 65 to get 666?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Was he on the mark?
unidentified		Well, Lord, I don't work alone.
unidentified		So any subjects I can get to help and any help we can get, any false prophets or rumors are okay by me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You even foster those.
		You want those.
		You want other people to even think they are you.
unidentified		You know, even your program is very exciting to me at this time to share the lovely things that are in store.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Lovely things that are in store for us?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's one very important question, to ask you if you're willing to tell us what lies ahead.
unidentified		Well, you know, I'm a student of the past more than the future.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Aren't they one and the same usually?
unidentified		Well, I am a great scholar in the past and dwell on the past and hope that the future holds great things for me and those who follow me.
		Mm-hmm.
		The...
		the, uh...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do you consider to be great things?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Define great things.
unidentified		You see, there needs to be opposition in all things.
unidentified		There could not be a God without you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
unidentified		That really, really, really makes sense.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, how would one delineate good if one did not have evil to consider?
unidentified		You could not have good without bad.
		You could not have pleasure without pain.
		You could not have lighted darkness.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you would be into the pain part and the darkness.
unidentified		Well, not necessarily pain.
		It's just my plan versus his plan.
		And you see, in the history of the past, when we part the veil and we go back beyond, we find that there was one-third of all the house of heaven that followed me.
		That's one-third of all the souls who have ever been born into this world.
		That's a great number.
		Plus, all the numbers were...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He really is.
unidentified		He's one of my favorites.
unidentified		You know that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, yes, yes.
unidentified		Well, would you like to have one little history lesson and something you won't find in your Sunday school class?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's why I'm here.
unidentified		Well, let's go back.
		I don't know if you've ever done any Bigfoot shows.
		Have you ever done any Bigfoot shows?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've done lots of Bigfoot shows.
unidentified		They've never found any, that I know of, any real skeletons or anything of a giant hairy man.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And why would that be?
unidentified		Well, back in the beginning of the world, just after Adam and Eve, they had two sons, Cain and Abel.
		And Cain killed his brother Abel.
		And he was cursed that he would never be able to be killed, that he would be a wanderer, a sojourner through the world.
		And he said that that was too terrible for him.
		Cain was one of my first and greatest followers.
		Cain is Sasquatch, Bigfoot, who still roams the earth today.
		Wow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I never thought about that.
unidentified		Would you like one more good one?
		Whatever you're willing to offer.
		Well, at the Tower of Babel was one of my greatest times.
		I don't know if you've read the Tower of Babel in Iraq?
		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		The Tower of Babel that was destroyed when the languages were confused.
unidentified		Do you know what I'm talking about?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, of course.
unidentified		Well, the Tower of Babel, man, was all of one language.
		And I had great influence among the people.
		And they began to build a great project.
		This project they called a tower.
		It wasn't a large, tall building.
		But if you read the scripture carefully, it says that anything that would be imaginable to the people they would be able to accomplish, God had to destroy it.
		God had to destroy it, or man would be able to do it.
		That tower was not a tall, senseless building.
		Is there to be a time transformer?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I understand.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is there to be a final battle between good and you?
unidentified		You know, good is kind of a good is whoever wins.
unidentified		If I win, that'll be good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Um.
		Good is whoever wins.
		You've got to think about it that way, I guess, huh?
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Now, if I win, everyone will say that I'm good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And will worship you.
unidentified		Many do.
unidentified		Already.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're very serious, aren't you?
unidentified		Sure.
		Many, many do.
		Bill Clinton worships you.
		Absolutely.
		where do you think he gets his power?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, once I had Father...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The last time I had Father Malachi Martina...
unidentified		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He's a priest.
unidentified		Has consulted followers of me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that may be true.
		But what I'm getting to here is I asked Father Martin whether Bill Clinton was perfectly possessed, and you know what he said?
		No comment.
		You find that humorous?
unidentified		I find his power comes from a great and powerful source.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How long have you been aware of what and who you are?
unidentified		Since the age of 12.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And your age now?
unidentified		35.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's about the right age.
unidentified		And you're certain of this, there is no I have seen beyond the veil from the beginning of time.
		I can go beyond and back and forth at will.
		And it's a great, wonderful experience because I can remember the things that all the people of this world did before they came here.
		All the things they did to put me down and to foil my plan and to take my power away.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And your day now is close, is it not?
unidentified		It is at hand.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Your day is at hand.
unidentified		My day is at hand.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So there will be the battle.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It will be soon, and the winner will be worshipped.
unidentified		The winner will be worshipped.
unidentified		And remember, one-third followed me then, and my numbers grow daily, hourly, minutely, secondly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't doubt that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In fact, in some ways, the mere fact that I opened the Antichrist line and I get so many calls that it's just utterly jammed with people saying they are the Antichrist may be a testimonial to everything you have just said.
unidentified		The only problem is with all the people that join me and my power and my kingdom and my dominion, others get just as strong going the other way, becoming you would call righteous.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you think there are equal numbers becoming righteous?
unidentified		They're maybe not.
unidentified		No, I am definitely gaining more ground, but the people who are becoming righteous are becoming more and more powerful in their righteousness, which is a great struggle for me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		I appreciate your call.
		Thank you.
		And your call is one that I'm going to have to think very hard about.
		This is Coast to Coast AM.
unidentified		You are listening to Art Bell somewhere in time.
		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from June 2, 1998.
		Coast to Coast AM from June
		2, 1998.
		Coast to Coast AM from June 2, 1998.
		Coast to Coast AM from June 2, 1998.
		You're listening to Art Bell somewhere in time.
		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from June 2nd, 1998.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Somebody writes, Who?
		Who said that a Christ is a man?
		Just more patriarchal propaganda.
		Oh, I agree.
		I haven't, I just have not had any women call yet who claim to be that person.
		Somebody from New York writes, you're a very cruel person.
		Antichrist line.
		Maybe you should close the line and look in the mirror.
		Well, that's what I have my studio cam for.
		You know?
		Got a monitor right here.
		I'm looking at it.
		Oh my.
		You should see my studio picture.
unidentified		Groan
unidentified		somewhere in time with our bell continues courtesy of premier networks All right, here's another facts.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Dear Art, yes, the Antichrist is in fact a woman.
		I know because I was married to her.
		No one's figured out the triple six yet.
		The answer is in the Bible.
		When Satan was cast out of heaven, one-third of the angels were cast out with it.
		When judgment day comes, a third of humanity will ascend to heaven.
		The remaining two-thirds will belong to Satan.
		Okay, write out two-thirds in decimal form.
		I get it.
		Good show, Art, Chris, and Pocatello, Idaho.
		And, well, all right then, I'll tell you what I'm going to do.
		Let's find out if it could be true.
		All right?
		This final hour.
		This final hour is reserved.
		My Antichrist line is reserved for females only.
		Females only who think they're the Antichrist.
		That's what we're going to do.
		Let me repeat it so you all get it out there.
		Females only.
		Area code 702-727-1222.
		Females only.
		That way we'll find out if there are any out there claiming to be the Antichrist.
		That's it.
		Females only.
		Are you listening?
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Well, this is a good shot, Mart.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Can I give you my perspective on this?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
unidentified		Very unusual.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
unidentified		I believe that I was sitting in a jacuzzi with two friends, and for some reason, I came up with a question.
unidentified		And I said, who is the most evil person you guys know on this planet?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And what did they say?
unidentified		That you know personally, not Hitler or something.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		And they both said, I am, at the same time.
unidentified		Really?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you were in the hot tub with both of them?
unidentified		Right.
		And I wiped the sweat from my brow and I said, gee, I thought it was me.
		And basically, there's good and evil in every human being.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		And that's what this is about.
		And it's in varying degrees.
		Nobody on this planet is 100% evil or 100% good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, except perhaps.
unidentified		Well, antichrist is those, think of the word, against Christ.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've thought of it.
unidentified		And there's a lot of things against Christ.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I bet you got out of that hot tub quick.
unidentified		No.
unidentified		We're all friends.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know what they say, birds of a feather, take hot tubs together.
unidentified		Well, we're all growing.
		We're kind of seeking people, as is everyone.
		Everyone seeks.
		I know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know, but to put them on tables and probes and stuff, right?
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Well, I'll tell you, your show has a lot of food for thought.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It does.
		And some of it is rather indigestible, some of it digestible.
		This is a true story.
		Remember the person called earlier and said there was a fake astronaut?
		It's true.
		Let me read this to you.
		It's from my friend Robert, who sent it from KQMS, AP.
		NASA's got some egg on its face.
		That after the arrest of a 48-year-old pilot for allegedly talking his way into some of the space agency's most secure areas with a long list of phony credentials.
		Jerry Whitridge is accused of repeatedly claiming that he was an astronaut, a CIA employee with a lifetime appointment, and a Medal of Honor winner.
		Investigators say he used a fake resume to gain access to a naval flight simulator, sit at the console of mission control at the Marshall Flight Center, and receive non-public technical material about the space shuttle.
		You've got to be kidding.
		He was arrested Sunday after using his false credentials in email exchanges with an official at the Naval Air Station in Pensacola, Florida.
		He was seeking clearance to fly a T-45 aircraft.
		NASA has yet to comment on his arrest.
unidentified		laughs
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Incredible.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		I was just wondering about the.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Turn your radio off.
		That's number one.
		Before you can wonder at all, you've got to have your radio turned off.
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now you can wonder why.
unidentified		I was wondering how a woman might know that she is the Antichrist if she thought she was.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I guess the same way a guy would know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, you know, the evil would speak to you or something.
unidentified		Right?
unidentified		I was thinking it might be Alyssa Milano.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why do you think that?
unidentified		Because, I mean, she brings up certain feelings.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, but you could say that about a lot of good-looking women, right?
unidentified		Oh, yeah, I guess you could.
		Temptation.
		So, is the Antichrist, if she is a female, would she be an attractive woman?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a really good question.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I would think probably yes.
unidentified		So I was just thinking, like.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There was an old song, Marry an Ugly Woman.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You remember that?
unidentified		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Way back in the 50s, so you probably don't remember it.
		Marry an ugly woman.
		Make an ugly woman your wife.
unidentified		You'll be happy for the rest of your life.
		I don't know about that.
		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, that's what the songs say.
unidentified		I was thinking, you know, the Papa Smurf.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The what?
unidentified		Papa Smurf from the Smurfs?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The Smurfs?
unidentified		Yeah.
		I mean, the Papa Smurf, he kind of had, like, control over the whole group.
		I was thinking maybe the people behind that show, maybe they have something to do with the Antichrist.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		May well be, who knows?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		Antichrist liar.
		you are on the air hello there waiting for me to pull all morning and I'm here and I'm here what is it you want to ask of me Mr. Bell what
		are your plans my plans mr. Bell my plans mr. Bell the world is exquisitely evil it always has been it shall ever be that way and I shall rule supreme over it all Mr. Bell That's enough of that one for
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, man, where did he get that sound in the background?
		That was kind of realistic.
		That was a really eerie sound, wasn't it?
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		Hello, this is Jess from Minneapolis, Minnesota.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How are you doing, Jess?
unidentified		Hey, okay, how are you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm not sure at the moment, actually.
		I mean, the show goes on, but that was a pretty weird call.
		Anyway, what's up?
unidentified		Well, a few comments.
unidentified		I was just thinking that since Jesus appeared to have an essence of a female in him, the Antichrist would be a female with the essence of a male.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, same thing.
		Well, with the essence, you mean like a guy in touch with his heaven inside?
		You mean something like that?
unidentified		As opposed to what people like to call a soul, which doesn't actually exist.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Could easily be.
unidentified		Hail Satan.
unidentified		Oh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		See, I know.
		Hail Satan, huh?
		I haven't heard that since you know who was on the air.
		Hail Satan, huh?
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Digestive difficulties.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Uh, yes, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes?
unidentified		Um, I came across something tonight when your show was on about the Antichrist, and it makes me almost as crazy as some of the people you've got calling in.
		Which really concerns me.
		I'm going to have to, uh, I'm just going to have to think about whether or not I should listen to your shows anymore.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I tell you, maybe not.
unidentified		Well, I was, I was, uh, sitting at a distance from my computer, listening to the, uh, different colors.
unidentified		And after the first caller, you had come on, uh, the young, the young man with the, the injury to his head or whatever.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Uh, not, not an injury, a mark.
		Well, a scar.
		A scar.
		And, and, and as a matter of fact, a scar.
unidentified		He was in an accident.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A scar, a scar that went to the bone.
unidentified		Right.
		Right.
		Well, you know, you told us before it started to kind of use our, uh, uh, to discern.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, try, try and listen to the different ones.
unidentified		Right.
		And really, he, he was the only one that I, that I felt might have been credible.
		And I felt, I really did feel sorry for him that he, he might be up against that.
		But as I was looking at my computer screen, uh, we have Windows 95 with the, uh, clouded sky background.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
unidentified		There's an image in that.
		And it, I saw it tonight.
		And it's a face of a man.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You saw this in your Windows 95?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		It's there right now.
		And I think other people can see it.
		And that makes me sound crazy.
		And I, I questioned whether or not I should call and tell you because I already talked to you tonight.
		So I thought that, if I thought, if I could get through again, maybe.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you're not supposed to be on twice.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you're right.
unidentified		I'm sorry, but this is, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		All right.
		Well, all right.
		I've got to get off the line.
		Um, you're not supposed to call twice.
		Uh, think of all the people trying to get through.
		But if, your message nevertheless made it through.
		So look at your Windows 95 screen and see if you all see a face there.
unidentified		Huh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Figures it would be there, right?
		Uh, first time caller line.
		You're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		This is first time caller line?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Um, well, I'm sorry.
		No, that's, of course that's incorrect.
		Where's my head?
unidentified		Now you're on.
unidentified		I'm really glad I finally got through because I wanted to clear a few things up.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		Okay, listen.
		All that stuff they were talking about before.
		I mean, now let me ask you something about the nature of demons and devils and the rebellion and all that.
		Have you ever thought to ask their side of the picture?
		All the time, yeah.
		Why do they do what they do?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All the time.
		Are you?
		Now look, now, this is the Antichrist line.
		Do you claim?
unidentified		Yes, I am the Antichrist.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You are?
unidentified		Yes, I am the representative of the serpent faction on this planet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okie dokie.
unidentified		Now I want to explain a few things.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Please.
unidentified		Please.
unidentified		Okay, now you're quite familiar with Zachariah Stichin, right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Stichin, Stichin.
unidentified		You know, the Anunnaki and all that.
unidentified		Not Stichin.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That sounds like somebody's sowing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's Stichin.
unidentified		Not Stichin.
unidentified		I'm going to give you a little history lesson.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Give me some history.
unidentified		Humanity was created.
		They were created mainly to be slaves, to work in the mines and do the bidding of the gods.
		We are the serpent faction.
		We rebelled against that idea.
		We didn't like the idea of creating people to be slaves.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You don't like, in other words, you don't like work.
unidentified		Well, not that.
		You see, humans were really never meant to be intelligent or to have any kind of creativity.
		They were meant basically to be servo mechanisms that do the bidding of their gods.
		We sabotaged that by teaching you ethics.
		And by doing that, well, you got kicked out of the garden, so to speak.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, I never thought of it that way.
unidentified		Well, it's funny, huh?
unidentified		I can't believe everything you read.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't know if it's funny, but it is worth considering.
unidentified		You know what's really ironic?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It was the giving of ethics that was our undoing.
unidentified		Mm-hmm.
		Knowing knowledge between good and evil.
		Yep.
		And you also notice, if you read the book of Genesis, Yes.
		they brag that they kept you from the knowledge of the tree of life.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
unidentified		Because if you had good and evil, you see, the God that Christians believe in really isn't God at all.
		It's just some alien.
		And, well, if you have knowledge, you wouldn't be good slaves.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, if there is not the God that the Christians believe in, I didn't say there wasn't a God.
unidentified		Oh.
		I'm just saying that what they believed in was actually an imposter.
		You see, there was an ancient group called the Gnostics.
		Are you familiar with them?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I am.
unidentified		Well, they knew that.
		But, of course, they kind of got killed for knowing that.
		And we're basically, you know, all these other people have been calling in, saying that they're the Antichrist.
		Well, they're just the pawns of the B faction.
		That's the guys we're working against.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So all these other guys?
unidentified		Well, they're just, if they're lucky, they're just schizophrenic dudes.
		Huh.
		If they're unlucky, they're really dealing with something.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Whereas you are the real McCoy.
unidentified		Yeah, basically.
unidentified		Well, it's kind of like, basically, any person of our faction, Art, that speaks out against them, against the B faction, will be labeled the Antichrist.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How long have you known this?
unidentified		Oh, I've known this since I was about, oh, 10 years old, when I started getting past life memories of living on other worlds.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And doing what?
unidentified		Well, that's kind of complicated.
unidentified		See, my past life memories tell me that, you know, this little situation you're in now with your planet?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Which one?
unidentified		Well, how everything's kind of spiraling down.
		You see, it's quite natural for intelligent species to get to this sort of point and blow themselves up.
		But the reason that is the case is that, are you familiar with the term astral parasite?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, astral parasite...
unidentified		You know what an astral parasite is?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know what a psychic vampire is.
unidentified		It's basically the same thing.
		You see, have you ever wondered why the gods all put so much importance as to which god you believe in?
		They do put a lot of importance.
		Well, the reason for that is because human psychic energy to these beings is the equivalent of heroin.
		And by believing in a specific deity, you're sending psychic energy in a specific direction.
		And the whole point of religion is to harvest that energy.
		You see, these beings, they feed off of your emotions and they feed off of your souls.
		And that's why things like what happened at Jonesboro occur.
		You know, to these astral parasites, you know, freaked out kids gunning people down is just absolutely delicious.
		It's why there's so much violence going on in the Middle East.
		And it's why that this cycle of violence never seems to end.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But you are the orchestrator of all this.
unidentified		No, no, no.
		You see, that's what you brought into the propaganda of the B faction.
		We're the ones trying to get rid of those guys.
		You see, what they did is in the intelligence community, they have a term called transference.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Transference.
unidentified		Which basically is blame the other guy for your crimes.
		And that's what they've been doing to us for thousands of years.
		You see, all of your religions, well, not all of them, but most of your religions are basically B faction propaganda.
		And there's a lot of B faction propaganda.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is that like a B movie?
unidentified		No.
		The B faction, you see, we're the serpent faction.
		The B faction, the whole point of the B faction is they try to set up a kind of hive mind.
		Okay, you understand what I'm getting at?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
		Okay.
		I saw Dark Skies.
		Actually, I was in.
unidentified		Well, Dark Skies is actually a pretty good movie.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, there, a hive mind, I know.
unidentified		There's an exoteric side to that show that's often not missed.
		You notice the creatures that went and decided people's heads and all?
		Yeah.
		That was really metaphorical for the soul and for spirits in general.
		And then they also talked about, okay, the cult of the light.
		Do you remember that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The cult of the light, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		Have you noticed that that light seems very similar to the light people see after death?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ah.
unidentified		Now you're getting the picture, aren't you?
		Yes.
		You see, that light that people see after death, that is an astral parasite.
		And that is why John Lear said he's not going to go to it because the shadow government found this out.
		But they really just don't know how to tell anybody.
		Because, of course, as soon as they do, they'll get labeled as what?
		The Antichrist.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's absolutely correct.
		There's no way they could tell people that.
		No way.
unidentified		But they're slowly coming out with it.
unidentified		If you watch a lot of the commercials and movies and stuff like that, they're slowly coming out with the truth.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, look.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We're out of time, so there's only time for a final word from you to the masses.
unidentified		Hmm.
		All I've got to say is don't take any wooden nickels, figuratively speaking.
		And I guess, good morning.
		All right.
		Don't take any wooden nickels.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, I'm going to be strict about it now.
		My Antichrist line for the balance of the program is restricted to females.
		I mean that.
		Females, I'm going to be tough.
		We haven't had any all night long.
		They've all been male.
		And that just isn't fair.
		So I'm now restricting it, and I mean it this time, to females.
unidentified		Good morning, everybody.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		From the high desert, this is Coast to Coast AM.
unidentified		This is Premier Networks.
		That was Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM.
		coast a m on this somewhere in time Now,
		we take you back to the past on our bell somewhere in time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning everybody.
unidentified		Words of love soft and tender warm surprise On the Antichrist line.
unidentified		You're on the air.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're welcome.
unidentified		First of all, I'd like to open up by saying that anyone who opposes Christ is the Antichrist.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That would be true.
		That would be true.
		So it could be many.
unidentified		There is many.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So then, a lot of the people who called tonight could be real.
unidentified		Yes, very much so.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And would you be one of them?
unidentified		I'm not saying that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well?
unidentified		I will not reveal my identity.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why not?
unidentified		Because I'm a deceiver of very many.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Like the black widow.
unidentified		You could say that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I did.
unidentified		You could say it again if you want to.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Like the black widow.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So that some might relax and some might worry.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What portion of the country are you in?
unidentified		West Coast.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it figures.
unidentified		Doesn't it?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You've been operating there, living there for a long time?
unidentified		I've lived on the West Coast all my life, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What age, roughly, are you now?
unidentified		Could say I'm 42,000 years old.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		42,000 years old.
unidentified		Hmm?
unidentified		Could say that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're like everybody's ex-wife, huh?
unidentified		Oh, never been married, thank you very much.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I didn't mean that literally.
unidentified		And I'd also like to say to the person who said about abortion, very much against it, thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Very much against it.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So there's agreement here.
unidentified		Any child or embryo not knowing good or evil will go to the Lord unless that child has a chance to know good or evil.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, it's surprising to me that somebody like yourself, who probably weaves webs in her spare time, would say that when we have representatives of the Catholic Church who say just the opposite can occur.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's a mixed-up world, I'll tell you.
unidentified		But I don't have to tell you.
unidentified		It goes to him.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		If that child has no chance to know good or evil, just like Adam and Eve had no choice until they bit into the fruit of good or evil.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		See, now, that's the way I always figured it.
		But you share different stories.
		What's a person to believe?
unidentified		But people who only live here for 100 years, what do they know?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, what do they know?
		That's right.
		Short lives.
		Whereas you have had the overall sort of 42,000-year overview.
unidentified		Yes, an experience means everything.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I sincerely appreciate your contributing all of this this morning.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You take care.
		There was a little something about our voice, wasn't there?
		Wildcard line, you're on air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Good evening or good morning.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning, actually.
		You're going to have to speak up good and loud.
		You're not going to be able to do it.
unidentified		I've been listening to you for about three years now, and I wanted to, first of all, agree with the gentleman that called earlier regarding the serpent class.
unidentified		And before this conversation is over, you'll see that the Christians and the other religionists are really the Antichrist.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The Christians are actually the Antichrist?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They really are.
unidentified		They really are.
		And the other religionists.
		And it's very easy to prove.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All the normal, regular, popular religions are actually anti-religious.
unidentified		Here's how you can easily understand it.
		Now, the devil or the antichrist opposes God, right?
		Opposes God.
		Now, let's find out where can we find God?
		We find God in the creation, right?
		So anything that comes along and opposes the creation and tries to overthrow the laws of the creation is against God.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Like Darwin, right?
unidentified		Ah, no, like the Christians.
unidentified		Let me show you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Darwin said baloney, not creation.
unidentified		Okay, watch this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Evolution.
unidentified		Okay, now let me show you how the Christians are more evolutionist than Darwin.
		Evolution says that a lower species give rise to a higher one, right?
		Evolution says that, say, a monkey can give birth to a human.
		But we see that humans only give birth to other humans.
		Now the Christians say a human gave birth to a God.
		That's evolution.
		simple we see in the universe Oh, okay.
		Where do we see that in the universe?
		See, we see God's universe saying one thing and then the anti-Christ or the anti-God saying something totally different from what God's universe says.
		Here's another example.
		Very easy to see.
		We see the life cycle in every situation from atoms to galaxies.
		We see stars being born.
		Stars die.
		Humans, ants, dogs, roaches, everything has a life cycle to it.
		The Christians say not so.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What about that last lady who's been here for 42,000 years?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How about that?
unidentified		Well, okay, well, we'll just stand by and watch that one.
		But they say, no, we have a situation where a human being died and rose again and is living forever.
		But we don't see that.
		The conservation law speak against that.
		Now, there is a God, and we can see from physics that there had to be a creator.
		The mathematical equation, force is equal to mass times.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, we don't see that.
		That's not quite true.
		Look, I appreciate your call.
		We don't see from the math and from the theory of the Big Bang that there is a creator.
		You're certainly able to lean toward that explanation because the physicists throw up their hands and say, I don't know.
		We can talk about anything after the Big Bang.
		But before the Big Bang, we don't know.
		They throw up their hands.
		So you can imagine it.
		You can't yet prove it.
		Maybe someday.
		On my Antichrist line, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hi, Dad.
		Dad?
		Mm-hmm.
		Dad?
		I've been waiting for you to call me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You have?
unidentified		Mm-hmm.
unidentified		Have you been getting my letters?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Have I been receiving your letters?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You've been writing to me?
unidentified		Mm-hmm.
unidentified		This is Lairei.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I know who you are.
		I know who you are.
		Yeah.
unidentified		Am I really the Antichrist?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, what do you think?
unidentified		I don't know.
		I think that I've been tricked.
		By Daniel.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		daniel brinkley This lady has been sending me faxes, actually, not letters.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right?
unidentified		Mm-hmm.
unidentified		About Daniel.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you think that Daniel did you wrong somehow?
unidentified		Oh, that's what he tells me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He tells you that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you have a mind of your own?
unidentified		Next question.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do you mean, next question?
		Now, that's a fair question.
		Do you have a mind of your own?
unidentified		I'd like to think so.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well then what do you think?
unidentified		I don't know.
unidentified		I don't know anything about the Big Bang Theory.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's all right.
unidentified		You don't have.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The world is made up of lots of little bangs.
		Listen, I've got to go.
		I wish you luck in your quest.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		All right.
		Take care.
		Gunshot
		You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from June 2, 1998.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, here we go again.
unidentified		On the Antichrist Live.
		You are on the air.
		Hello, my name is Pat.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Pat.
unidentified		And I live at Lizard Heaven, where the critter meets the glitter.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where the critter meets the glitter.
unidentified		But it's just another place in the desert.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, I always suspected probably you would be in the desert.
unidentified		Well, the desert is about the only place that you can escape from people like all those people who have been calling, saying they were the Antichrist, when all they're doing is playing the same old game of religion.
unidentified		You know, they're all quoting the Bible, and as you probably know, the coin has two sides, and a game has two players.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, they weren't all quoting the Bible.
unidentified		Well, yes, they were.
unidentified		They might have been for or against it, but they'd all been studying the same menu.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Using it one way or the other.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
unidentified		Oh, and here's the idea of here's a book that a bunch of people wrote, and now we'll argue about it forever, and that's the way we'll waste our lives.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, well, so what is your attitude about it?
unidentified		Well, you can get people arguing, and that stops anything from ever happening.
		And to my mind, that means Christ hasn't really done much of a good job.
		Almost everybody who calls themself a Christian is looking down their nose at somebody else.
		They're demeaning people.
		They're fighting and arguing and killing and starting wars.
		And so basically, I think going with the two sides of a coin.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You mean that isn't what a good Christian does?
unidentified		That is what a good Christian does.
		And I don't think we can blame Christ for it.
		I don't think that's what he had in mind.
		But whatever he had in mind, it didn't work.
		He obviously didn't have the power to get people to do what, like the Sermon on the Mount, all that stuff he told them to do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, what do you do?
unidentified		Basically, they're feasting on the emotion of the same game.
		And I think that to be antichrist is to be indifferent to the game.
		And probably to be indifferent to the pleasures of creation.
		When you think that everything's wonderful out there and you go for it, you work for it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is that you?
unidentified		Well, I'm kind of indifferent.
		Yes, and I wish that I weren't, but that's when I was about 11.15 tonight last evening realizing, listening to these people, realizing it's just they're either enthused about biblical stuff or they've turned against it.
		But they're all focused right in on it, and they're not looking at what's real.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And so you're sort of totally unenthused one way or the other and anti-based on that.
unidentified		If it were working, you could maybe be enthused to a degree, you know, based on the fact of things working or people doing things that progressed, but it isn't happening.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, there was a day in this country when you could open phone lines and ask people who believe they are the Antichrist to call, and you would get nothing.
unidentified		I know.
		Nothing.
		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now?
		Now, the phone lines, the phone company is probably getting, some of the relays are probably going belly up because so many people are calling.
		And what do you make out of that?
unidentified		Well, what I make out of that is in the old days, everybody thought they were on one side.
		It's the side of everybody who was pro the Bible, pro the Christian, or else maybe they were actually living real life, inventing things or planting gardens.
		Today, they wait for everything they need to come out of the wall.
		Electricity, water all comes out of the wall.
		And they argue about things that are actually meaningless in real life.
		And it's, you know, when you sit back and look at it, you become appalled.
		And I think that Christ has obviously failed.
		He is not effective.
		He didn't have the power to change anything.
		And neither do I. And I think that that makes Christ and Antichrist the two sides of another game of ineffectiveness.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Fascinating.
		All right.
		Fascinating.
		I appreciate your call.
		Thank you.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Take care.
unidentified		Whew.
		Thank you.
		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		She had it pretty well together, didn't she?
		Your point of view.
		Wild Carline, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
		Yes.
		This is the first time I've called you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is it?
unidentified		Yes, I haven't been listening to your show very long, but I really enjoy it.
		And I wanted to talk to you about the Antichrist.
		Yes.
		You know, I don't think the Antichrist is going to call you not the true Antichrist.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		On your line.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There's no way you can know that, though, is there?
unidentified		Yes, there is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How?
unidentified		Because the Antichrist is not going to admit he's the Antichrist.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why not?
		Why not?
		The Antichrist would have arrogance and ego.
		So why not?
unidentified		He or she would be like the serpent that got you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Kind of an arrogant.
unidentified		That would be somebody who would want you to believe they were the Antichrist.
unidentified		The Antichrist would be someone who wouldn't want you to know they were the Antichrist and wouldn't want you to know what their plan was.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, what better way to do it than to come on here and sound silly and admit it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Everybody discounts it, right?
unidentified		That's right.
unidentified		So the true Antichrist is out there making people believe that they're spreading love and turning Christians against each other.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, did you hear the lady that was just on before you?
unidentified		Yes.
		The fighting, the killing?
		Well, you see, those are all signs of the end of time.
		Those are God's signs.
		Those aren't the signs of the Antichrist.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		I guess it depends on how you read the signs.
		That signpost up ahead.
		Easy to the Rockies.
		You're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello, Art.
unidentified		Good show.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Interesting, Providence.
unidentified		Yes, I'd like to clarify something for you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How often do you actually get call-in shows with the Antichrist?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Never.
unidentified		That's true.
		I'd like to clarify something.
		You've mentioned the Immaculate Conception.
		As a Roman Catholic, I'd like to clarify this.
		You made a mistake.
		The Immaculate Conception refers to the birth of the Blessed Mother, not the birth of Christ.
		The Blessed Mother was conceived without sin, and the Immaculate Conception is another name for the Blessed Mother.
		She stated when she appeared in a visitation of Adam, I am the Immaculate Conception.
		She's the only human being that was ever conceived in the womb of her mother, St. Anne, without inheriting sin from Adam and Eve.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, tell me this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Would the Antichrist have a belly button?
unidentified		I think that'd be conjecture on my part.
unidentified		I don't think I'd want to do that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Go ahead, conject for me.
unidentified		Well, I don't know, and I don't want to know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is a critical question.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, we all know what the belly button, what it serves.
unidentified		Well, I think whoever this Antichrist is, is probably born to the world just like anyone else.
		And I think it's just probably taken over by some evil entity.
		You could probably ask Pardon Malachi and Mark to probably answer that question for you.
		But I'd like to reiterate this, that I hear this mistake all the time.
		Conception refers to conceived without sin.
		The Blessed Mother did not inherit original sin from Adam and Eve because she was to carry Christ.
		That was the incarnation of Christ.
		He was conceived by the Holy Spirit.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I appreciate that correction, and I've been suffering under that same misconception, I guess, all my life.
unidentified		Well, I hear this all the time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm sure.
unidentified		Tim Russert made this explanation on television just about two weeks ago on his show.
		Did he?
		Because people are always calling, they're referring to artificial insemination as an act of conception.
		It has nothing to do with that.
		Misconception only refers to one individual, one individual only.
		That's the blessed version of Mary.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've got it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've got it.
unidentified		I appreciate it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Take care.
		And good morning on my Antichrist Line.
		You are on the air as time runs out.
		More ways than one.
		No, you're not.
		Whoever it was couldn't handle it or just hung up at the wrong moment.
		On my Antichrist Line, you're on the air as time runs out.
unidentified		Let me turn my radio down.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Somebody dropped the phone on my head or something.
unidentified		Hello?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That hurt.
unidentified		I'm sorry.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's all right.
unidentified		I know who the Antichrist is in the form of a female.
		In this case, it's a group.
		And it's the Spice Girls.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The Spice Girls?
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		If you look at them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The Spice Girls are no longer whole.
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They're now missing one of their members.
unidentified		That's Ginger.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So without Ginger, how could they be completely evil?
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		There was five of them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
		Ginger's leaving.
		A new one will replace them.
unidentified		That'll be the sixth.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The sixth spice.
unidentified		Right.
unidentified		Ginger's name was six letters.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And then they have one by the name...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I never thought of that.
unidentified		Yes, and they have the other.
		Yes.
		And Scary.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Six letters.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There were only five, but now there will be a sixth spice girl.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And do you expect her to have six letters in her name?
unidentified		Yes.
		And she'll be wearing a bikini, which is six letters.
		A bikini again.
		Oh, my God.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This is too much for even me.
unidentified		It is the Spice Girls.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I appreciate the clarification.
unidentified		They are taking over Dreamland.
		Are they?
		As far as I can see.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If they want it, they can have it.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, goodbye.
		We really are about out of time.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Going once, going twice.
unidentified		Yep.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Whoa, you are there.
unidentified		Hello?
unidentified		NASA is the Antichrist.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		NASA is the Antichrist.
unidentified		NASA is evil.
		They don't tell us things.
		They go out there and do things.
		Why do we stop exploring the moon?
		How can we have possibly have known anything there is to know about the moon by now?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		Look, I'm out of time.
		Tell everybody good night.
unidentified		Okay, across the country from coast to coast.
		This is the Art Bell Show of the Greatest Show in the World.
		Good night!
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's the only one that's ever had an Antichrist line.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		See you later, everybody, from the high desert.

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