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unidentified		Welcome to Arkbell, Somewhere in Time.
unidentified		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast A.M. from May 27th, 1998.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		From the high desert in the great American Southwest, I bid you all good evening, good morning, as the case may be across all these many time zones stretching from the Hawaiian and Each Island chain west, eastward to the Caribbean and the U.S. Virgin Islands, south into South America, north all the way to the Pole and worldwide on the internet.
unidentified		This is Coastal Coast Man.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello there.
		I'm Mark Bell.
		And we're going to do many things tonight, one of which will be next time to talk to Robert Ghostwalk with respect to the seven thunders.
		And we've briefly touched on them in previous shows, but never really done a careful examination of what these seven thunders are.
		And believe me, it's thunder indeed.
		So we'll do that.
		We'll do open lines.
		This hour, a couple of items to kick us off.
		President Clinton has turned down Whitewater prosecutors' requests to voluntarily testify in the Monica Lewinsky investigation.
		So the president is not going to volunteer to testify.
		The Associated Press has learned that Clinton has declined as many as four or five such invitations since February, citing a variety of reasons.
		Four months ago, Clinton vowed to present the facts about his relationship with Lewinsky.
		Separately today, a federal judge ordered two presidential aides to testify about their consultations with Clinton about Lewinsky.
		Now, somebody sent this to me while we're on the subject, and I also heard a blurb earlier.
		Now, I don't have that in the news, but I heard, and maybe it was incorrect, but I heard that Lewinsky was perhaps calling on the president to fire the special prosecutor.
		Could that be correct?
unidentified		Is that correct?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Somebody sent me this.
		Last summer, the president and Mrs. Clinton were vacationing in their home state of Arkansas.
		On a venture one day, they stopped at a service station to fill up their car with gas.
		Even the president would have to do that, right?
		Seeing that the owner of the station was once Hillary's high school love.
		So they exchanged loss, and then the White House couple went on their way.
		As they were driving on to their final destination, Bill put his arm around Hillary and said, well, honey, if you'd stayed with him, you'd now be the wife of the service station owner.
		She smirked and replied, No, if I'd stayed with him, he would be President of the United States.
		Pakistan's getting ready to do it.
		Latest intelligence indicates they're ready to detonate a nuclear device.
		Tells us they are about to detonate a nuclear weapon.
		And there are two ways.
		One is that nuclear weapons will proliferate and destabilize the region, and the other is they will stabilize the region.
		And we were talking about this a little bit last night with Richard.
		It really is a very interesting question.
		And that is, is the mad scenario a constant, mutually assured destruction?
		It kept us from going to war with the Russians or anybody else since the end of the Second World War.
		And when I say war, I mean, you know, a full out throw everything you got at them kind of war.
		It has not happened because of mutually assured destruction.
		So, I guess if I were Pakistani, I would want to be exploding a bomb real quick.
		I don't see how they have any choice.
		On the other hand, you have to worry about proliferation, and you've got to imagine one day somebody is going to do the unthinkable, right?
		There are reports, or were reports, in newspapers today that Senator Goldwater's health, already known to be poor, was declining rapidly.
		His wife, however, said no.
		Susan Goldwater said, Barry and God will decide when it's time.
		And you can imagine who will have the last word.
		I have all my life admired Barry Goldwater, and I had hoped that before he leaves us, I'd have an opportunity to interview him.
		He's a ham, as I am, but I understand his health is declining.
		And I've always admired his steadfast willingness to say any damn thing he wants to say, you know.
		I really enjoy that in a person.
		And I try to do a bit of it myself when I can.
		A scientist has shown, check this out, folks, for the first time, solar flares produce seismic waves in the sun's interior that resemble those created by earthquakes here on Earth.
		They observed a flare-generated solar quake that contained about 40,000 times the energy released in the 1906 earthquake that devastated San Francisco.
		As a matter of fact, the size of the quake, if here on Earth, Richter scale-wise, would be 11.3 On the Richter scale.
		Now that's a quake.
		That's a real quake.
		So they're now talking about earthquakes on the Sun.
		Surprised?
		Am I?
		No.
		Japan is about to send a small unmanned spacecraft to Mars.
		That's right.
		Japan will send a small unmanned spacecraft to Mars in July for a two-year exploratory mission.
		Now this is from Kyoto News Service.
		The spacecraft to be launched July 4th is going to be one of the smallest ever flown to Mars.
		They gave no dimensions.
		The craft will be launched some 616 miles southwest of Tokyo.
		The Planet B spacecraft, developed by the Institute of Space and Aeronautical Science, Division of Education Ministry, will be launched by an M5 rocket.
		Isn't that interesting?
		What do you suppose the Japanese are launching a rocket to Mars for?
		Or said another way, what could they possibly see on Mars or do on Mars that we have not already seen or done?
		Why would the Japanese spend a whole lot of money, and folks, it does cost a lot of money to send anything to Mars, to duplicate an effort that we have already made?
		That, by the way, was AP from the New York Times.
		That's really, really something to think about.
		Why would they do that?
		Maybe some of you have an answer.
		Here's a note from somebody who's 20 miles from the Coopville Crop Patterns in Washington State.
		And he says, I went out there today to check them out.
		I knew they would after I aired this last night.
		As stated by your guests last night, they're not circles at all, but about 40 acres of patterns and shapes with an overall rectangle shape or outline.
		I hope someone gets an aerial shot to see if they really fit together.
		There's a large hill above them, but it's still hard to see explicit shapes.
		This is a winter wheat field, and the stalks are about three feet high.
		There was an access road that enters the field, and the patterns take off and are scattered over that acreage.
	If they are man-made, it had taken an awful lot of people, or very few, a very long time to produce this.
	On inspection of the wheat, it does appear strange the way it lays down.
	Most curious was the way it laid down in two or more directions.
	For instance, this one small patch at the north end of the field was about 12 feet across.
	All the stalks on the left side of the pattern were bent or flattened west to east.
	The other half bent nearly exactly 45 degrees in a northeast to southwest direction.
	All straight, and the two directions gave the wheat a braided appearance.
	This is a rural area by no means.
	The field borders a major highway, and there would have been several residences that overlooked the fields.
	I'd be curious to know if the occupants of the houses noticed the changes, seen or heard anything at all, or have these patterns appeared in other years.
	There was an official-looking white suburban above the site.
	It was unmarked, but had several antennae on the roof.
	I assumed some sort of government, local, or whatever.
	According to a couple I met, there is supposed to be another site nearby.
	They visited there, said it was smaller, but similar.
	About five miles away, I found another field with flattened patterns.
	This is yet a different field, as it is grass or hay.
	The patterns were well laid within the field, not near the perimeters, as with the wheat fields, walk the field, and there was no sign of any other entry.
	I made the only track in and out of the field.
	If these patterns were man-made, they came and left from above.
	That's from Patrick.
	Thank you, Patrick.
	And there are several people who have gone out to see the fields that we talked about yesterday.
	Very, very interesting.
	Hey, listen, if you're down in San Antonio, Texas, a guest I'm going to have on next Friday, I've had him on before.
	I know you really enjoy him.
	Lloyd Pye.
	Lloyd Pye is going to be speaking at the Art Belt Chat Club in San Antonio at the Unlimited Thought Bookstore.
	That's a good name, isn't it?
	Unlimited Thought.
	I like the concept.
	And he'll also be my guest on the 5th, as I said.
	That's next Friday night, Saturday morning.
	So if you want to see Lloyd Pine, he is a fascinating guy.
	You're going to want to make your way over to the Unlimited Thought Bookstore in San Antonio.
	All right, I'm going to break here, and then we'll come back, and we will begin to take calls.
	Anything you want to talk about, of course, is fair game.
	I operate by the clock here.
	I've got to.
	I mean, when the clock says I break, either I break or they break me.
	It doesn't matter.
unidentified		Pain Pain Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		you By the way, scientists are saying they have discovered another planet, not in our system, but attached, they believe, to a nearby star.
		So we're getting an awful lot of that.
		They say it'd be about twice the size of Jupiter, and that is one big mama of a planet.
		If you know how big Jupiter is, imagine twice the size of Jupiter.
		Believe me, you would not want to meet any of the beings that evolved on a planet like That.
		Talk about the Krypton effect.
		There is enough gravity on Jupiter to turn you into applesauce.
		And so imagine something twice the size of Jupiter.
		Now imagine something that walked upright on two legs that has evolved from that planet.
		It's the unthinkable.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Yeah, Ert, this is Arnold from St. Paul.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello, Arnold.
unidentified		Yeah, I wanted to ask a couple questions.
		First, the response on the thing about Japan.
		The reason why they're sending that up there is no doubt because they're tired of getting lies from the United States.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They're trying to get what?
unidentified		They're tired of getting lies.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Lies from the U.S.?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You mean from NASA?
unidentified		Yeah, about that face on Mars.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, wouldn't it be something the Japanese sent up this little craft and it went around?
		We saw all kinds of things we haven't seen before.
		It is interesting.
		Now, most other countries, remember Russia sent a couple, and they all met with some sort of dastardly fate.
unidentified		I thought France did, too.
		They were doing some kind of joint mission with England or something a while back.
		I think it was before they found its face on Mars, a way back.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But honestly, though, all other things equal, don't you consider it strange the Japanese are sending a rocket to Mars?
		I mean, why?
		Really?
		Honestly, why?
unidentified		Well, maybe they're trying to check to see if Mars is Y2K compliant.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, well, enough of you.
		Watch people.
		No, I looked at that and I read it and then I thought, well, why would the Japanese send a rocket to Mars?
		Why?
		What would they glean that we don't already know times 10?
		We've had spacecraft crawling along the crawling along the ground on Mars.
		We're mapping the planet.
		We were there also long ago.
		We know an awful lot.
		We have an awful lot of photographs and information.
		What could the Japanese possibly effectively spend their money on that we haven't thought about?
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hi.
		No, you're not.
		I didn't push the button.
		Now I did.
		You're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
		Good evening, Art.
		Good evening.
		Maybe they didn't have any trouble sending our probe because they knew NASA wasn't going to tell us the truth.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's what the last guy said.
unidentified		And about just before you left to Egypt, I'd sent you a couple CDs, and I don't know if you ever got them, because I know your mail's backed up.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've tried emailing you once, and the email's full, right?
unidentified		Oh, I guess I went through.
unidentified		I was using my friend's computer.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, an awful lot of it doesn't.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, I'm getting so much mail and so much email now that it's almost beyond my capacity to handle it.
unidentified		I bet.
unidentified		I've sent you Ian Anderson and Robbie Robertson.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I think I have those, sir.
unidentified		Okay.
		I just wanted to make sure you got them.
		Yep.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much.
		I do.
		Take care.
		It really is getting to that point.
		If you saw how much mail I get, it's brought in in giant bins.
		And effectively, it's almost, I'm telling you, it's almost to the point where I can't handle it.
		And where, even with my wife's help, there's just no way.
		So I don't know.
		I'm doing the best I can.
		Same with emails.
		Absolutely astounding.
		I mean, the volume of email, if I, I don't know how many of my box holds, 300 or something.
		But if I empty them, two hours later, it's full again.
		Can you imagine that?
		And so it's almost like now there are not enough hours in the day.
		And I'm not exactly certain, folks, what I'm going to do about that.
		There are only so many hours in any given day.
		And the information overload is really beginning to sneak up on me.
		But I'm going to keep plugging away at it for as long as I can because you have to read your own mail.
		Otherwise, you lose touch.
		We'll be right back.
		This is Coast to Coast AM, the deal.
unidentified		You're listening to Arkfell somewhere in time on Premiere Radio Networks.
		Tonight's an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from May 27th, 1998.
		And the devil jumped up on a hickory thumb and said, boy, let me tell you what.
		I guess you didn't know it, but I'm a fiddle player too.
		And if you'd care to take a dare, I'll make a bet with you.
		Now, you play pretty good fiddle, boy, but give the devil his due.
		I'll bet a fiddle of gold against your soul, because I think I'm better you.
		The boy said, my name's Johnny, and it might be a sin.
		But I'll take your bet, you're going to regret, cause I'm the best it's ever been.
		Johnny, you're opposing up your phone and play your fiddle hard.
		I'll help broke loose in Georgia and the devil feels his heart.
		And if you win, you'll get this shiny fiddle made of gold.
		But if you lose, the devil gets your soul.
		The End
		In the springtime of the trees around the leaves, and the ash and the sky.
		You're listening to Heartbell somewhere inside.
		Tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from May 27th, 1998.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This, of course, is Lorena McKenna.
		Saw a conference in Vancouver.
		Just like she is right here.
		Every bit is good.
unidentified		It was awesome.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, hello, everybody.
		Again, we're uh we're kind of wondering, I'm kind of wondering why the Japanese are spending all the money to send a rocket, albeit a small one, to Mars.
		Somebody facts right away, Art.
		You know how they are with cameras.
		Maybe they'll show us what we want to see on Mars.
		george from ohio Seriously, though, if you think about this seriously, it is odd.
		It really is odd.
		All they could possibly do is duplicate what we have done.
		So, if you're interested in conjecture, and you know me, I'm interested in conjecture, I do it all the time, you've got to imagine that.
		Hey, we're mapping every part of the planet, so you've got to imagine that the Japanese.
		What?
		Don't believe us?
		I don't know.
		it's odd.
unidentified		Dramatic Music
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		In an open letter, here it is, urging that President Clinton fire Kenneth Starr.
		Monica Lewinsky's attorneys charge that the Whitewater Prosecutor, at most, quote, may have succeeded in unmasking a sexual relationship between two consenting adults, end quote.
		There is a pretty good point here, I suppose, isn't there?
		In unmasking a sexual relationship among two consenting adults.
		It better be more than that, or Star has got a problem.
		I mean, there's got to be a law, perjury, something somewhere here, or Star's in trouble.
		West of the Rockies, you're on there.
		Hello.
unidentified		Yeah, how are you doing, Art?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, fine.
unidentified		Great night.
		I'm looking forward to hearing from Mr. Ghostwolf.
		By the way, great program last night.
		Thank you.
		And one of the reasons I'm calling, well, first of all, I promised you about it a week ago, Tuesday, that I'd send you something.
		And once again, it has to do with the mail.
		I imagine if you get it, you get it.
		If you don't, you don't.
		I don't trust the mail myself.
		But it was a description of a book, Dust Novel.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How many times have you sent mail and not had it arrive at the other end as it was supposed to?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't mean just to me, but to anybody.
unidentified		This past February, twice.
unidentified		I mean, I sent to for Stamps by Mail, you know, where you order stamps to the post office.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
unidentified		I sent the letter to them.
		They lost it.
		They lost the letter to the post office.
		Yeah, and they really goofed me up twice that month.
		I mean, really royal.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I wasn't expecting that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That was a good answer.
unidentified		One of the reasons I called is because I came across something recently, you know, all this talk about the pyramids and hyperdimensional physics and Egypt.
		And I've been reading a book.
		It's a collection of essays.
		Among the contributors are Dr. Stan Groff, Terrence McKenna, and a number of others.
		It's called Gateway to Inner Space.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I love Terrence.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He is so much fun to interview.
unidentified		Oh, definitely, definitely.
unidentified		i've read that so many of his works for so many years and and uh...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		if there's always if you just blows me away and it actually makes it you It makes a lot of people angry.
		Do you know why?
		Because, of course, Terrence has done, apparently has led a rather pharmaceutical life.
		and yet he still it remains so on top of it so articulate it's not exactly uh...
		a poster point for the war on drugs apple well that uh...
		Yes, we do.
unidentified		Something I thought you might find really interesting out of this is because you've been in the sarcophagus and the Great Pyramid.
		Yes.
		I hate to read at you.
		I've done it too often before.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, don't read to me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Just tell me.
unidentified		Okay.
		Basically what the Great Pyramid was about, Daniel was right about it being a machine.
		And he said the Egyptians believed in the reality of human metamorphosis.
		And it's they accept I hate it's kind of hard to put this in any other these are this is so well done in a single sentence.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, a single sentence I can handle.
unidentified		Okay, they accelerated the metamorphic process towards an other than merely molecular type of body, a body able to function in a higher kind of objectivity, comprehending more than the kinto sensory or five sensory world and the real dream world.
unidentified		In other words, this is a tomb was not known in our nihilistic sense, being called in Egyptian the Chamber of Transformations.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I can buy that, believe it or not.
		I know that, thank you.
		It's going to sound strange to a lot of people, but I can buy that.
		The Chamber of Transformations.
		Look, I apologize for not being able to tell you adequately, and I still can't.
		I really can't.
		What I felt, I lay in the sarcophagus.
		And there aren't words.
		There are not words to describe it.
		And I have thought about it so many times since.
		There's just not words.
		If you get a chance to do it, do it yourself.
		See if you can find words.
		It is an experience for which there are no words.
		You knew that you were in some sort of an altered state.
		That's the best way I can put it.
		You knew you were in some sort of altered state.
		I mean, there was simply no question about it.
		But to put words to what the feeling was, I haven't been able to do it yet.
		And I should be able to do it.
		It's my business to put things in words.
		And I've actually tried off the air, you know, so I wouldn't make a fool of myself by trying to do it on the air, but I'm still not there.
		I really don't have words for it.
		It's fascinating.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
		Hi.
		Hey, what's up, Art?
		You, at the moment?
		Where are you?
unidentified		At Philadelphia.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Philadelphia.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		W-P-H-T.
unidentified		What's that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's WPHT.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's what you're listening to.
unidentified		Yep, WPHT.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		How's it going?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hmm, it's going.
unidentified		What do you call it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Turn your radio off, sir.
unidentified		I'm sorry.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's all right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Everybody makes that mistake.
unidentified		Yeah, kind of nervous.
unidentified		First-time listener.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		was better your radio is not just I mean, first-time caller.
		You are nervous.
		All right, what's up?
unidentified		I'm highly nervous.
		Very rambunctious type.
		Mm-hmm.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, when I get nervous, it helps me to close my eyes and imagine about 15 million people listening to every single little tiny word that I'm saying.
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Waiting for me to make a mistake.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Does that help?
unidentified		No, my heart's jumping out of my head right now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You'll get used to it anyway.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What's on your mind?
unidentified		Just calling up saying, you know, I like your show and everything.
unidentified		And it's very interesting.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it is.
unidentified		What's like to say about that hyperdimensional space?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		I think, or hyperdimensional physics, is it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		I think you've got to die for the answer.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There probably will be people who die for the answer to that one.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I hope it's not all of us.
unidentified		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, you remember the desitter space the scientist was talking about?
		Right.
		From Hawaii?
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Just punch one little hole and we all blink out.
unidentified		Right.
		Yeah, I think that's something that's ungraspable.
		I think you've got to kind of go on to the next level.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You mean like death?
unidentified		Yeah, I think death.
unidentified		I think it's death.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It might be.
unidentified		In a way.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Look, it's as good a conclusion to come to as any other.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
unidentified		But I enjoy your show.
unidentified		I don't want to leave on a bad note.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		But the other thing about the Y2K?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		About controlling computers and stuff like that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		I think we'll talk about the Antichrist.
unidentified		Just have a prophecy show.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In a way, we're going to have a prophecy show tonight.
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Believe me, Robert Ghostwolf is serious prophecy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, boy, is it serious?
unidentified		Right, I missed his last show.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you catch this one.
		He's describing what are known as the Seven Thunders.
		You don't want to miss it.
unidentified		Right.
unidentified		Well, they talk about the weather changing and everything.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And about the computers.
unidentified		They say the Antichrist was born in 63 in the Gaza Strip.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm told that he is alive now.
unidentified		And that's how he's trying to control it, something like that.
		You know, he's trying to control it through computers and stuff like that.
		But I don't know.
		It's kind of hard to believe sometimes, but I guess strangest things have happened.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do you suppose the Antichrist is doing right now?
unidentified		I think he's out in front of his computer probably going crazy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		In front of his computer going crazy.
		That's not a bad answer, actually.
		Anybody else have one?
		What do you think the Antichrist is doing right now?
		There are many, many, many who believe the Antichrist is now among us.
		And so what do you imagine he would be doing right now?
		The Antichrist.
		Something evil, huh?
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
		Yes.
		Hello.
		Hi, how are you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Extinguish your radio and pull us into where you are.
unidentified		Sure.
unidentified		Calling from Florida.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Florida?
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		Listening on WINZ.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		W-I-N-Z.
unidentified		A.M. down here, 9.40 on the dial.
unidentified		I was listening to Charlie Rose.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's Miami, in Miami, right?
unidentified		Yes, mm-hmm.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, Charlie Rose.
unidentified		Yes, NASA tomorrow at 1 o'clock is going to release a picture from Hubble detailing an extrasolar satellite.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, detailing a planet.
		They think they've got a photograph of a planet outside of our solar system.
		They believe adjacent is, I heard on CNN, adjacent to some close star.
unidentified		Yeah, the fellow that was on Ed Wheeler of the NASA Origins Program didn't specify the star or any nature of the planet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, we'll find out tomorrow, though.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And twice the size of Jupiter.
unidentified		I think that's probably been listed actually in the print media, that particular star.
unidentified		That was one of the first ones that they discovered.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'll tell you, that's one big mother of a planet, twice the size of Jupiter.
		I said a little while ago, and I'll say it again.
		If you were on Jupiter right now, there'd be enough gravity that you'd be a puddle of goo.
		And so imagine twice the size of Jupiter, and imagine now a sentient being of some sort that walked upright on two feet.
		If that being ever got here, makes Superman look like a 90-pound weakling.
unidentified		Yeah, I think it would be pretty interesting.
unidentified		They had another fellow that was on also from Time magazine, Michael Lemenek, who just published another book called Other Worlds.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And the Ed Wheeler fellow sounded pretty interesting some of the new satellites that they're going to be putting up in orbit around 2008 to 2012 looking for some of these extrasolar planets.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, they're finding planets right and left.
		It turns out planets are a common thing, not an uncommon thing.
		So what that means is that the chances of life are incredibly high.
unidentified		Well, I've always believed that planets are a lot more common, but that's, you know, human beings.
		We're just getting out of the medieval era believing that we're the center of the universe.
		Anyway, it's taken about 500 years to do that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You mean we're not the center of the universe?
unidentified		No, I hate to tell the people on the planet of the apes, but no, you're not.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Believe it or not, there are a lot of people who will be very disturbed by that concept.
		We view ourselves as really special, but we may not be really special.
		We may be just average.
unidentified		Well, we're special in the sense of we've achieved some degree of success on a relatively small planet on the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, on the western suburbs of the galaxy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, my friend, listen, I've got a scoot, but I appreciate the call.
unidentified		Are you going to post that picture by any chance on your website?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I'm sure we will.
		I hope it's a good one.
		I hope you can actually discern a planet.
		That would be really cool.
unidentified		Well, Wheeler was saying that he's worked on Hubble for 20 years now, and originally they would be just happy to get even one little pixel.
unidentified		So I think he's probably got a lot more than one pixel.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, the tube will tell the story later tomorrow.
		Thanks.
		All right.
		You take care.
		On the international line, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Good morning, Arbel.
unidentified		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		I'm calling from Jamaica.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Jamaica?
unidentified		Yes, isn't it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hey, now that's really cool.
		Jamaica, do you know what?
		I think you're my first caller from Jamaica.
unidentified		Well, this is the most expensive poll-free call I've ever made.
unidentified		I had to go on vacation to do it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, how's Jamaica?
unidentified		It's great.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm sure it is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you're on vacation?
unidentified		Yes, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Poor you.
		Lucky you.
		Well, good.
		I'm glad to have you.
		What's on your mind other than Jamaica?
unidentified		I was wondering if you've ever interviewed Dr. Ellen Crystal about the Northeast UFO phenomenon?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The Northeast UFO phenomenon?
		No, I don't think so.
		But I'd love to.
unidentified		It's well documented in the papers and radio programs up here in the Northeast on the Hudson Valley.
unidentified		Uh-huh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, the Hudson Valley, yes, I know about that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And as a matter of fact, I've got a guest coming up on that, so hang in there.
unidentified		Oh, really?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, sure.
unidentified		Well, I grew up in a town that they talk about.
		It's Pine Bush, New York.
		And she wrote a book called Silent Invasion.
		And it's well documented.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, hang in there.
		That is a very well-documented case, and I am going to have a guest, if not her, somebody on Hudson Valley.
		Who's in, is Jamaica full of native girls and drinks with little umbrellas and lots of sun and sand and all that stuff?
		Or what?
unidentified		It sure is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is.
unidentified		It sure is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that gives us the rest of us hope.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How long are you going to be there?
unidentified		Until Sunday.
unidentified		I'm here with my wife and my child.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, please say hello to both of them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And again, you now go down in the record books of Coast to Coast AM as the first call from Jamaica.
unidentified		I had to figure out some way of getting through.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You have made it, and just under the wire, too, because we're going to the news.
unidentified		All right.
unidentified		Thank you very much.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		Take care.
		How about that?
		The first call from Jamaica.
		Cam radio operators had a little thing where they try and work all countries, you know.
		And you get a special little award when you work 100 countries and then 200 and then 300.
		You get a little award when you've talked to all 50 states.
		Well, I've done that.
		But I wonder how many countries I've talked to.
		And I wonder if there's a talk show award for, like, talking to 100 countries.
		Probably not.
		I'm Art Bell from the High Desert.
		Robert Ghostwolf coming up next with the Seven Thunders.
		This is Coast to Coast AM.
		Do yourself a big favor and keep the dial right where it is.
		And by the way, if you're disturbed by this kind of programming prophecy, you'll want to tune out now.
		Otherwise, turn it on.
unidentified		You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from May 27, 1998.
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		Tonight's program originally aired May 27, 1998.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, good morning.
		We sort of were general last hour.
		One of the items we discussed was why Japan is sending a rocket to Mars.
		They're sending a rocket to Mars and why?
		What could the Japanese possibly learn that we have not already learned by crawling on the surface, mapping the surface, taking photographs?
		You've got to ask yourself, why are the Japanese sending a rocket to Mars?
		They are.
		And I think it begs a whole bunch of questions.
		Here's one answer.
		Comes from somebody who faxes me without signature.
		No one knows why Japan's sending another probe to Mars.
		Perhaps it is just something they yen to do.
		Tells you how mystified we are by what they're doing, people.
		Writing this kind of stuff.
		They yen to do it.
		The yen's about 157 now to the dollar, something like that.
		keeps going this way, it'd be like the old days.
		Just before we go to Robert Ghostwolf, a couple of program notes that relate to what you're going to hear tonight.
		Tomorrow night, Don Zadel, he wrote a book called American Man Killers.
		Folks, this is about the animal world attacking the human population.
		I'm sure Ghost Wolves ears are pricking up at this one.
		Listen to just a couple of the points that we're going to discuss tomorrow night.
		Listen closely.
		The explosive increase in animal attacks and resultant human deaths.
		And then this.
		Missing persons, particularly children, who were in all probability killed and eaten by wild predators.
		That'll be tomorrow night.
		And it kind of backs up, not kind of, it does back up what Ghostwolf has said about, for example, mountain lions beginning to stalk human beings, hunters.
		And then the following night, we'll have Whitley Strieber, and this is really, really going to be something, along with Jaime Mazzan, who did the 60 minutes Mexican version of 60 minutes, and a volcanologist.
		And there is breaking news about what's going on in Mexico.
		One of the volcanoes in Mexico is about to let go.
		That's what they think.
		We'll talk about that.
		There's a lot of volcanism going on in Mexico.
		I mean, it is really strange what's going on down there.
		And I know Robert Ghostwolf has something on that tonight as well.
		So here he is, Robert Ghostwolf.
		Robert, welcome back to the show, my friend.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		How are you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm doing very well.
		Tell me, Robert, tell me about yourself.
		In other words, you are not speaking for any tribe.
		We always start out by sort of giving that disclaimer.
		You're not speaking officially for any tribe or any group.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		I'm a Matei, alright?
		I'm a mixed blood.
		It's a very simple thing.
		I work a lot with elders.
		I've worked with elders all of my life.
		And I still work with them.
		I work with a lot of the tribes.
		I just came back from a week up in Alaska just before your trip, where I was working with the tribes up there working on native rights issues.
		And they have a few prophecies themselves about things that are coming down, which all seem to correlate with everything else that's going on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I heard you were there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where were you in Alaska?
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		I was up in Anchorage.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Anchorage?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		We did a seminar up there with Nick Beggich, and it was a really great show.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Excellent.
		I love Alaska.
		I used to live there.
		Once you've been to Alaska, it's very...
		No, there really isn't.
		And people just think, ah, wilderness, you know, I've seen it in Oregon or California.
		No, not like Alaska.
		Anyway, listen.
		So your background, you're Mate.
		It means your background is what?
		Mixed blood.
		What's the blood?
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Mixed blood American, Native American, and European.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		So there's Lakota blood in there, there's Iroquois blood in there, there's Italian blood in there, and there's German blood in there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Lakota, Iroquois, German, and Italian.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		And if you go to other parts of my family, there's Cherokee.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Cherokee as well.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		And I think that you had a guest on the other night, Black Fox, who explained the Mete situation quite eloquently, actually.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It was very interesting, yes.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		And a very gentle soul, and like most people are, of that.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		And so we are what you would call the ghost children.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The ghost children, yes.
		You know, the whole point of his book, since you brought his name up, was that these ghost children, these Matei, these mixed blood, are now beginning to receive calls to return to their tribes, and the applications to return to tribes are going through the roof suddenly.
		Pretty bizarre, huh?
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Yep, it is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Quite a change.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Quite a change.
		But I think everybody right now is searching for their roots.
		I think that, you know, there's been so much that has been revealed in the last 10 years about bloodlines, about not just Native American all over the world, the bloodlines of the royal families, the written documents behind the actual Bible and what actually was said versus what's been printed.
		It's a wonderful time for discovering truth.
		But unfortunately, truth can be discerning to a lot of people.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		May I ask you a question That I asked him.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Go ahead.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I have found this to be universally true because I've booked a lot of guests.
		You know, it's my business.
		And what I've noticed is the elders that you speak of, and you speak to, that I don't, they don't go on the air, Robert.
		They won't go on the air.
		They won't go on the air, period.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		If you wanted to do a show, I could get you probably four or five elders who would be willing to come up on the radio and talk.
		Really?
		At this time, because they feel, really, really.
		Because they feel that we are basically dealing with, regarding the changes in the world the way it is, we're dealing with months.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Months.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Months, not years.
		We're not talking about the days to come like it's some future experience that's going to come in 100 years and we don't really know when it's going to happen.
		They feel that we are in the middle of the beginning of what can no longer be altered.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you're telling me that elders who would not come on before because we're so close now would be willing to?
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		People feel that their voices have to be heard and the stories have to be heard so that the children of today can have a legacy and at least a direction toward the truth of what they're about and where they come from and what's going to happen.
		So a lot of those attitudes that existed for a long time, and I think that the attitudes are justified because a lot of the words have been misinterpreted, a lot of the elders have been misrepresented, and they don't necessarily understand the sophistication of the media.
		I've seen a lot of shows where they'll have elders up there speaking and they chop it up so much that it has nothing to do with what they were saying.
		Do you know what I'm saying?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, of course.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		So they're like, well, I'm not going to go into that because then it looks like I said this and I've seen it and that's not what I said.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, you tell them this radio program is not like that.
		In other words, they will have, A, enough time to say what they want to say and B, no one's going to edit what they say.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Well, next week I'm going to be talking to the Hopi elders.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, look, do it then.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		If you want, I'll get to you and...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'd like, if you can get A or two Hopi elders to come on, I'd like to have you on with them.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		I will talk to them about that this weekend.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let's do it.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, that having been said, obviously you've been talking to the elders, and you...
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		There are many prophecies.
		Many prophecies.
		I mean, I have two books out now that are just, you know, they're doing really well.
		People are getting attention from all over the world.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, literally all over the world.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		I know.
		And they only scratched the beginning of the prophecies that I went through, that I learned, that were given to me to hold and to express.
		And we are now at a point where the other prophecies, meaning that which is hidden within the Mayan records, that which is hidden within the Inca, that which has been hidden within the tribes here in North America that have been held back because of after 500 years of persecution, you learn to keep your mouth shut.
		And there are so many things in the prophecies that relate to our previously fixed agenda on what religion was and where everybody came from and how it happened, that it would only result in great detrimental harm to the people who had the stories.
		There was also, because of the persecution and the genocide that went on here in this country, and it went on all over the place, but what happened here, there were people who would speak about the prophecies and they would literally have their eyes burned out or their tongues cut out.
		And we're not talking about 100 years ago.
		I'm talking 30 years ago.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		30 years ago?
unidentified		Yes.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		And so at that time, nobody was willing to come out.
		It was too dangerous.
		But now we're at a point where I think that the elders are looking at what's going on in the world universally, especially what's happening with the children, because it's no longer an isolated situation that's happening somewhere far off the res down in L.A. It's happening right on the reservation.
		It's happening in Canada.
		It's happening in Alaska.
		It's happening in China.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Slow up a little bit.
		I know about everything, you know, what occurred in Oregon and what's occurred.
		I've got a list of the school killings recently, and it's a mile long.
		Now, I didn't know what was going on on the reservation.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Well, actually, for several years now, I've been working with people up in Canada where the suicide rate of the youth up there between the ages of 15 and 18 has been over 50%.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What?
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		That's right, because they just feel a sense of hopelessness.
		There's like, where do we go?
		What do we do?
		I mean, there is nothing.
		Everything that we have is a lie.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So where do we go?
		That's beyond the pale.
		Over 50% in some drives and counties.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'm not even close to exaggeration.
		And we're talking about now the situation with many elders.
		I know there's a tragic thing going on right now up in Alaska where the elders are mortgaging their properties and selling their properties to try to get rights for their own land to operate their own corporations so they can sell their own resources and feed everybody in the tribe.
		And it's turned into a vicious cycle.
		We have another really tragic situation going on in San Carlos, Arizona with the Apache elders down there, where basically you have outside influences and corporate influences coming in and abusing tribal funds, abusing tribal resources.
		And the thing is, there's a block against a lot of this news getting out.
		And so they feel that because of situations like that, that they have reached the point of no return, of hopelessness.
		And that they are more concerned, though, this is the part that's important, they're more concerned about the human element and the fact that the youth of this world, Which is tomorrow's future, is basically giving up.
		And if they give up, where are we going to go?
		What are we going to have?
		It's like the world that we know is coming to a closure in many ways.
		We're going through so many changes so fast that even if you are sitting in the newsrooms of CBS or CNN or listening to the Art Bell show, it's overwhelming.
		It's just overwhelming.
		The sense of malaise and hopelessness is overwhelming.
		So what they're saying is, why don't we come out and at least let our stories be heard?
		Because everyone keeps coming and knocking at the doors.
		And I am talking about elders.
		I am not talking about people.
		There are people who resent them wanting to do that.
		There's a definite real danger to them doing that, both from the outside and from the inside.
		So it's a very courageous thing.
		I just came from working with an 80-something-year-old grandmother, I don't remember her age, up in Cordova, Alaska, who's the last grandmother to speak the language of her tribe.
		And she's trying to put together a cultural center so that the culture of the people at least stays alive.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Otherwise, it will pass with her passing.
		god what a terrible responsibility to be the last one to speak the language of your tribe and to be in your eighties Listen, I want to run something by you that somebody sent me and I can't get out of my mind.
		You just spoke about all the problems going on in schools and with the young people.
		And somebody facts last night, why is it not reasonable to consider that the behavior of the whales and the dolphins, seemingly suicidal, inexplicable, beaching themselves, killing themselves, they're mammals.
		Why is it not reasonable to conclude that we are being affected by whatever it is that's affecting them?
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Are you asking me why it's not conceivable?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why it's not reasonable.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		To me, it's totally reasonable.
		I think it's total reality.
		Yeah, so do I. We live along with these other beings.
		Yes, we are mammals.
		Now, I believe that I've read some scientific reports where they actually say that, for the most part, dolphins are more intelligent than we are.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, they utilize more of their brain than we do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've heard that, too.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		And yes, they feel it.
		And then we're missing the whole other point of it is that all life is connected.
		It sounds in the 70s like some metaphorical utopian concept, but it's a total reality.
		When you turn around and blow up five atomic bombs in the belly of the earth, then the beings on that earth are going to feel what she's feeling.
		It's the same way when something happens to someone in your family and you have a premonition that I have to call Uncle Joe.
		And then you call up Uncle Joe and you find out that Uncle Joe's passing or he might have already passed.
		We are interconnected with these feelings.
		And so we have a situation where we keep plundering the earth, period.
		Regardless of who's to blame, my purpose here is not to point fingers.
		It's that we have to change the way we're looking at things.
		If we are going to make it through the next four years, we have to change the way we're looking at things.
		Rather quickly.
unidentified		We better do it last week.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		well i i just you know it just struck me and i have no idea what's causing whales to beat themselves people speculate about lines of magnetics and uh...
		I know.
		There's all kinds of things you can speculate about, lines of magnetic influence, that sort of thing.
		You can speculate about chemicals.
		You can speculate about air pollution, whatever you want to speculate about.
		whatever it is and i don't know what it is it's reasonable to assume that all mammals are affected well here's an interesting Here's an interesting thought to think along with that.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		You have several groups of migratory birds that are no longer returning to their nesting grounds all over North America.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		You also have a situation going up in Alaska and up along the rivers through Canada where the salmon are not returning to spawn.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		And you also have a situation going on where several indigenous tribes throughout the world have stopped having children.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Now, is that a coincidence?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That I didn't know.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Is that a coincidence?
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		I mean, down in Australia, there are many Aboriginal people who have simply stopped having children because they feel that this is not a time to bring youth into the world.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Hold it right there.
		We'll be back after a break here at the bottom of the hour.
		But think about it.
		Are all of these behaviors linked?
		It makes more common sense to imagine they are than to reject it.
		These aberrant, inexplicable behaviors, are they linked?
		I'd almost be willing to put money on it.
unidentified		You're listening to Arc Bell somewhere in time on Premier Radio Networks.
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		There are times when all the world will speak, when questions run too deep, for such a sinful mind.
		Won't you please, please tell me what's the love, I know it sounds absurd, please tell me who I am.
		I said, what would you say, I'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, a fanatical criminal.
		So won't you sign up your name, we'd like to be all right.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning.
		Robert Ghostwolf is my guest, and he'll be right back.
		We're about to get into the Seven Thunders.
		It's prophecy.
		Bear that in mind.
		It's prophecy.
		But according to Robert tonight, we are now only months away from it, so close that elders that previously would not come on the air now are going to.
		Isn't that something?
		And believe me, that is something, because I've tried.
		Earlier, last hour, somebody was speculating, and I said, we're talking about the Antichrist.
		And there are many who believe the Antichrist is now alive.
		And I just got the following.
		Art, because I was asking, what do you suppose the Antichrist is doing right now?
		I mean, right now, if he's actually alive and on earth right now, what do you suppose he's doing?
		Speculation, right?
		Invitation.
		Art the Antichrist is obviously talking to his dad about preparations for taking over the family business.
		Thanks, Wally.
		One other quick item.
unidentified		I'll hold this for you for a second.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		you We are going to be talking volcanism on Friday with Whitley Street.
		There's some heavy-duty stuff going on in Mexico, and I just got a fax from Ray.
		Who says, aren't volcanoes?
		You better check out the Mammoth Lakes area.
		Wow.
		You want to talk about movement?
		There are so many dots there in the last 24 hours that the red dots have begun to turn black.
		Check the website.
		We've got a link to that, by the way, on my website.
		So if you want to go see what's going on at Mammoth, they put a little dot wherever there's been earth movement that is magma-related, they believe.
		Just a couple of quick things here, Robert, that I would like to read.
		One from Canada.
		Art Stacey from Vancouver here with an interesting tidbit of disappearing food supplies and so forth.
		As you may know, there's been a bit of a salmon war going up here, on up here between my country and yours regarding fishing off the coast.
		The salmon stock is dwindling to the point of extinction.
		Tonight, listening to CFON 1410, that's my affiliate in Vancouver, during a news break, the news was reported that the current thinking on the shrinking salmon stock is that global warming has driven the fish further north out of normal territory.
		Question must be asked.
		How will this migration affect the salmon's race memory for returning to its spawning grounds and one step further?
		Will they find instead that global warming and the changing environment have simply killed off the salmon stock?
		And would they tell us if that was so?
		Any comments, Robert?
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Well, if you were to go up to Alaska and you were to talk to many of the native people up there, they would tell you that, in fact, many of the rivers that once had salmon are now totally depleted of the salmon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I know.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		And if they migrate and they move, this is what happens.
		They simply don't spawn.
		So what we're talking about is the extinction of life in the oceans.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		One other.
		Art, could you please ask Ghost Wolf?
		My information tells me that about two or three years ago, there was one Hopi elder left who still lived on his land the way the Hopi have all through time.
		I was told when he dies, there'd be no one left living the life taught by the ancients.
		Is he still alive?
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		I believe that who they're speaking about is grandfather Titus.
		And Titus has passed away.
		And there was a lot of controversy when Titus left, just prior to his leaving, because in the end, the story goes that what he did was he sang one of the songs that he was not supposed to sing, which would start the earth changes.
		And he felt that it was time for things to change because the way the world was going, there wouldn't be a world and there wouldn't be a people.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, so we're going to begin with the seven thunders, but again, I want to be sure that I understand.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Well, let me go back to the point of where do they come from.
		Basically, back in the 80s, I'd say the beginning of the 80s, 82, 82, about then, there was a council, a meeting in the mountains of Taos.
		It was basically called the Rainbow Walk.
		And it had to do, it was started by elders from the Algonquin people of the Northeast.
		And they went around and spoke to the elders of various nations and where all these different nations got together to bring their prophecies and talk about things that they thought would be occurring because it was quite evident to them that we were coming into the time of change, that we were coming, that the warnings were starting to come.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That makes sense.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		And from there, I remember sitting there listening to, I mean, there were Hopi, there were Lakota, there were Algonquin, there were Cherokee.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They were basically comparing notes on prophecies.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		They were comparing notes.
		And one of the things that they spoke about was the seven thunders.
		And what has happened over the years is that as I would go around and talk about the seven thunders and ask questions about them.
		I found out that the stories were quite involved and layered, and that there were various prophecies that connected to it.
		And when I put out my first book, Last Cry, I was already working on the Seven Thunders, which was originally supposed to be part of that book, but the book just got too big.
		So we put it out in the second book, which is Winds of Change, which is like Volume 2.
		And what the Seven Thunders had to do with were basically as the thunder would come from the mountains.
		There would be a rolling thunder across this earth.
		There would be a warning each time that the eagle put his talons into the earth and shook it, and there would be a great shaking.
		And that there would be certain warnings.
		The first three thunders would be warnings that we would have time to turn around and change our attitudes, to change things.
		But then by the time the fourth thunder came, if it had to come, in other words, between each thunder, you would have time to change.
		You would have time to realize what was going on.
		If you didn't change, another thunder would come.
		But by the time we hit the fourth thunder, which we've already well into the fourth thunder, by the time you hit the fourth thunder, the course of events could no longer be altered.
		That they would fall down in a certain manner, and that the world would then become a very strange place.
		That we would see things that we never thought that we could see.
		We would see beings that we never thought were there.
		We would start to have communication again with the stars.
		We would notice dimensional rips, and the earth itself would create a war with valued life.
		The earth itself would rebel against what was being done to her.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There are inescapable parallels to the Bible.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Inescapable.
		Absolutely.
		All right.
		Let's begin with what already has happened.
		What was, past tense, the first thunder?
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		The first three thunders, we're starting with the first one, which would be a good place.
		But the first thunder had to do with the fact that there would be millions of starving children all over the world.
		They saw millions of starving children and starving people.
		And that basically the cries of these people would go unanswered.
		They would be ignored.
		It would appear, that little groups would try to do things, but nothing would ever happen.
		And that this would start off in a small area and it would start to spread.
		And we have seen this, you know, all over the world in what we call, in America, third world countries.
		And now we're seeing it back home.
		We're seeing it right here.
		Many people in America, I think, because we're so media blind, we're so drugged out by movies and media and what the pictures are and what's going on, and we live our life letting everybody do everything for us on TV or in the movies rather than do it ourselves, that we tend to forget that the majority of the world does not live by the American perception.
		So we have thousands of children in Africa going around starving, which Rwanda.
		We have it in China.
		We have it in Indonesia.
		We have it in South America.
		We have it in Europe.
		We then would move into the second thunder.
		The first one was the starving people, where no help would be.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, and with regard to nature, there's something too in the first, right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, we'd be pushing nature to the limits.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		We would start to go against the laws of nature, and that nature would start to rebel.
		We would start to see the waters become tainted.
		We would start to see the trees react.
		We would start to see the disappearance of certain vegetation.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, well, that's long since occurred.
unidentified		Yes.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Then we move into the second thunders.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		And the second thunder had to do with the coming of the comet guy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		El Bob.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I was just with him up there in Old Anchorage.
		He's an interesting guy.
		Mr. Bob.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, Mr. Bob?
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've talked with Alan Hills many times, but never Thomas Bob.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		He's real interesting.
		He spent most of his time salmon fishing.
		And he's really trying to set up an incredible program for kids where they can come on and work and learn astronomy through the internet and set up some telescopes where anybody can come from a school and go in and find out and learn how to use the telescopes through the internet.
		It's pretty interesting what he's doing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So then the comment to the Native American was, what's the right word, a warning?
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		It was a warning that this was what preluded the coming of the purifier.
		That we would see, and I'm going to go to the hopey end of it because they're most articulate on it, that we would see the twins return to the earth.
		And the comet would be known by a blue and a white tail.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It had that.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		And it had that.
		And that the twins would come.
		One twin works with the North Pole, one twin works with the South Pole.
		They're the guardians of the entryway to the inner earth.
		And then as they came, they would start to move the earth.
		They would start to move the frequencies that cause consciousness to work.
		There would be changes within our consciousness, within our perception, and within the earth itself, because, again, all things are connected in a web.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let me go to science.
		Are you talking?
		We talked a little bit about this last night.
		Are you talking about the Schuman resonance frequency, the virtual frequency of the Earth itself?
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		I'm talking about the frequency of the Earth, but that was a very interesting point that was brought up last night.
		I am not talking about the Schumann theory.
		The Schumann theory, to me, is the Schuman theory.
		It's an interesting theory, and it's based upon one perception of finding out what's going on with frequency based from moving radio waves.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, one way of measuring something.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		It's one way of measuring something.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		But if one was to really want to go into understanding Earth frequency, I would suggest that they read the books on the Mayan prophecies by Jose Agueros, and they would get into understanding the work of Nikola Tesla.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Because he actually worked with the frequencies.
		He understood the frequencies.
		He made it work.
		He turned around and produced electricity from the ground, understanding how it worked.
		And many of the principles of the physics that's used in HAARP today are programs that were initiated by Tesla.
		And we find that the Earth frequency is actually somewhere around 10,000 to 12,000 Hertz.
		When Tesla worked with energy, he worked above 400 Hz, so it would not have harm to human beings and to other living beings on the planet.
		He tried to explain this as a warning when they were doing the Philadelphia experiment, saying you can't do this with a 60 Hz power generator.
		You're going to create too low a frequency.
		You're going to have grotesque things occur.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They did.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		And they did.
		But so no, I'm not talking about human theory.
		The Mayans talk about that the Earth frequency is 8.
		They keep referring to it being 8.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		8.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Okay, whatever that means.
		And that we will speed up.
		That frequency will intensify.
		And I think that we have a lot of signs today of things speeding up.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No kidding.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		I mean, life's speeding up, like you were saying earlier on the show, there's not enough time in a day to do what we have to do.
		How did Grandpa do it?
		We don't know.
		So we're talking about Earth frequencies changing.
		And we're talking about electromagnetic poles shifting.
		If we talk North and South Pole, and we talk about the twins coming back and playing with the pole, well, we definitely have a flux going on with the electromagnetic fields.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We do.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Back and forth, and it's a continuous thing.
		It's constantly changing.
		They've constantly got to revamp their equipment on airplanes, on shuttles, on satellites to keep everything in a balance.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Again, we were talking about that last night scientifically, though, that a lot of what are regarded as constants by science are not constants at all, are now being found not to be constants at all because they're changing.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Yes, yes, absolutely.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		I thought it was an interesting thing that you and Richard brought up about it was good to hear someone actually say from a scientific neighborhood that the sun had to do with hyperdimensional physics.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		And like, hooray, we're finally getting people to realize it.
		And we're dealing with the fact that the sun is affected by planets.
		The planets affect the sun, not the other way around, because the sun really has a very small degree, maybe 1%, and then the planets are the other 99%.
		We are going through shifts right now in our solar system where the planets are realigning, where the whole galaxy is literally realigning itself and changing positions.
		And that, based on what was said last night, now here from another perspective, you're going to see a lot of chaos between now and August.
		August 22nd.
		You've got a situation going on where you've got five planets in alignment pulling on each other.
		And you've also got an eclipse that's going to last, an eclipse, a solar eclipse, that's going to last some 52 hours.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Excuse me, 52 hours?
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		52 hours.
		That's a guesstimate.
		So if it lasts 53, I was wrong.
		But it's going to last a lot longer than two days.
		Now, I don't know if that's going to be the whole world.
		I don't believe it's going to be the whole world.
		That depends upon the angle of the sun.
		We go into the third thunder, and the third thunder talks about what had come from the comet that's known as the green mist.
		Now, I struggled with that one for a while, but I think I have an answer for what the green mist was.
		And the green mist has got to do with fungus.
		Fungus that's on the plants, fungus that's in the wheat, fungus that is causing.
		And it talks about there's a result of this, there would be three devils, three demons.
		Two of the demons could possibly be controlled, but the third one could not be controlled.
		And they would cause disease and havoc amongst all life forms, all life forms, because all things need water.
		When we would reach a point where the animals would start to begin to be born with mutations, and we know well now that we've seen the frogs with five legs, the fish with two heads, the snakes, the rabbits with four ears.
		I mean, these things now are like all over anybody's newspaper that they can go in.
		Even up in Spokane, they had it in the newspaper.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		And they said that when that happens, it would be roughly a year to two years before we would start to see that in human beings.
		And there have been reports of children now being born in Mexico without organs, with extra limbs, without brains.
		And this would be the beginning of the warning of the fourth thunder.
		Now, all of these things have happened slowly over a period of years, but they have happened.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, it's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We just keep getting the stories, and we sort of, on a daily basis, like a slow-cooking frog, we digest them.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Now we sit and we're dealing with these little demons, which was a very good word for them.
		And we're talking about the fungus.
		Now, why did I say fungus?
		Well, a lot of the disease that's going on now, and there's a tremendous outbreak of tuberculosis, everybody is suffering from respiratory things.
		The smoke that's coming up from Mexico is coming from fields that have been sprayed.
		The smoke that came down through Montana and Wyoming is coming from fields that have been sprayed and used for experimental purposes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I never thought about that.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		And I'm saying this now, but if someone wanted to write to me, I have the documentation of all this.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		It's not just I sat there one day and said, wow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Look, you don't have to document this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know full well.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Well, I have scientists and physicists and doctors all over the world who are now starting to write to us and confirm what we're talking about.
		And I said, well, what are these things?
		I mean, We try to use the natural means of curing these things, and they seem to have an intelligence of their own.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Robert, people down in Texas are really, really getting sick.
		It's no joke.
		People are staying indoors.
		And the health warnings mean exactly what they say.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		The scary thing, Art, and we'll get into it after your break, is that I don't think it's entirely nature.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Great.
		Great.
		The third thunder has already occurred, and we're in the fourth.
		I never thought about that.
		They sprayed those fields, didn't they?
		Oh, my.
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		You're listening to Art Bell Somewhere in Thai, tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from May 27th, 1998.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning from the high desert.
		My guest is Native American Mate Robert Ghost Wolf.
		We're going to be talking about, well, we are talking about the seven thunders.
		The first three have already occurred, and I'll briefly go over those.
		And we are now in the fourth.
		The fourth marks, according to prophecy, are the point of no return.
unidentified		That's what I call it, anyway.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A time during which, if you have not corrected your ways, what is to come is inevitable.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I will continue with all of that in a moment.
unidentified		I will continue with all of that in a moment.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, all right.
		The seven thunders.
		This is Native American prophecy, a lot of it Hopi prophecy you're hearing.
		And we have already gone through the first three thunders.
		And the first three thunders really have already occurred.
		For example, number one, testing nature to the limits.
		We've done that.
		Definitely have done that, haven't we?
		Second thunder, and I'm giving, these are very short.
		There was much more to them.
		Are the ocean beginning to die?
		With marine life escaping to land?
		Sound familiar.
		The third thunder.
		Are the crossbreeding of animals will begin?
		Tampering with DNA will begin.
		Cloning.
		Cloning soulless people for slavery.
		Blush-eating viruses.
		No perceivable cure.
		In the third thunder.
		We are now in the fourth thunder.
		And Robert tells me that with the fourth thunder, in essence, I use the phrase, the point of no return.
		In other words, by the time you're actually in the fourth thunder, it is going to go forward inevitably, Robert.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		What is going to occur cannot be reversed.
		It can only be softened.
		We can change the outcome.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The degree of it.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		The degree of it if we catch hold of what the fourth thunder is all about.
		And it comes back.
		We're not quite through with the third thunder yet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Because it has to do with the fact that everything on this earth, everything that's doing with living life, organic life, trees, birds, fish, people, flowers, it's all connected to water.
		And the water and the cycles of the water that move up to the clouds, that come down to the mountains, all the ecosystem is all connected like a fine net.
		Like the little cells inside your hard drive and if those on a computer.
		And if those cells are not communicating properly, what you have is a distortion.
		So what you have now is going back to the third thunder, and it's not all the earth doing to us.
		It's more or less what we're doing to the earth and how the earth is reacting.
		We're coming now to the fact that we have been using since World War II zillions and zillions of tons and gallons of petrochemicals that we convert to fertilizer, that we create to bug sprays.
		This goes into the soils, and we're seeing the soils becoming devastated and lifeless.
		They can't support life.
		Then they come out with something else that's a chemical distortion to try to supercharge the soil with life to create plants that we now eat, that we're now eating the chemicals.
		The animals are now eating the chemicals, and we're eating food.
		The animals are eating food that no longer has the minerals, that no longer has the resources that it has to sustain life in a balanced way.
		We're also seeing, as a result of this, as it goes through the water cycle, we're seeing the atmosphere itself start to become diseased.
		And the atmosphere of the Earth is very close in the way that I've been taught to look at it.
		It is very similar to the skin on the body.
		It is the largest organ that we have.
		So the atmosphere, even though we see through it, we think, is basically the largest organ on the earth.
		And this atmosphere becomes ill.
		We Start to see holes in the sky.
		Well, what are holes in the ozone?
		Are they not holes in the sky?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They are.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		And this then lets these detrimental radiations and whatnot come down and mingle with life forms here, causing them to further distort in their duplication.
		Then we have now, we even have holes in the ionosphere that we are plugging in the ionosphere that the scientists say, don't worry, we can close them up.
		I think I read some stuff by Edgar Casey a long time ago where they did that in Atlantis, and they said the same thing.
		You are tampering with the natural order of things, not understanding what the natural order is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You also said something before the news that I want to be sure this audience gets regarding the fires in Mexico and the smoke here in the U.S. Those fires are carrying particulate material from fields that have been really sprayed.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Really sprayed.
		And we're dealing with things that have been sprayed with chemicals that are recycled from biological warfare, in essence.
		We're dealing with experiments with plant RNA and human DNA, where they actually, in the fields of wheat up in Canada, tried to see how they could cross these two species.
		So you're creating now...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Human RNA?
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Well, what I mean is that plant life basically reproduces itself and the cells are composed of RNA.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		When you're dealing in the human body or the animal body, you're dealing with DNA.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And they tried to combine all of them.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		And they tried to cross-breed the two factors.
		They tried to do this with plant life.
		They're doing this with plant life all over the place.
		And where they have experimented with the fields, like in the valleys of California, like in the valleys of Arizona, up in Canada, the wheat that grew as a result could not be used to make bread because basically it was infected with the fungus and it wouldn't rise.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		So what they did was, and here's where it gets a little diabolical, what they did was they sold it to pasta companies because you don't have to make pasta rise.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		The other thing that they did was they gave it to third world countries, including Native Americans, as surplus food.
		And now all these people are eating this food with the fungus in them, and they're all developing liver ailments, they're all developing respiratory illness, they're all developing Alzheimer.
		And so it was like, well, what are they doing?
		The same thing in another theater is happening to the fields in Mexico.
		They spray the weeds so that people don't collect organic herbs.
		They spray them so they don't bring pot up here.
		So they just fly at random through a jungle and spray a whole section of, you know, several square miles, just dropping the stuff from the sky.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And all of that's burning.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		All of this is burning.
		Now, what is it?
		What is it?
		Is something that you're going to start hearing a lot about now.
		They're called prions.
		And the prion is basically your basic protein building block of all life.
		And what's happened in the prion is we're getting reports from different sources that are saying, well, we have all these viruses.
		We recognize the symptoms.
		We recognize the causes.
		As a matter of fact, I think they even had a program on 60 Minutes a couple of weeks ago about this subject where they were talking about they can see the symptoms, they can see what's resulting, but they can't find the virus.
		Well, they can't find the virus because basically it's mechanical in nature and what it is is a frequency virus.
		It's called a stealth virus.
		The same thing that goes into your computer and infects the computer.
		And when you read these reports side by side, when you look at what they say about what's happening to the computers and how you're losing memory, how programs are locking up, and they refer to hard drive, if you transpose them side by side, what they're saying is what's happening in the human being as symptoms of disease, Alzheimer's, corporal Tanos syndrome, respiratory illness.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'll give you one.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		They're identical.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Down in Los Angeles, they've been running a story.
		Linda reported, Lynn Montowell reported on it last Sunday.
		There is now something called, for lack of a better name, the X-Files disease.
		Whatever that is.
		Now, that means they have no idea what it is, some kind of virus apparently, where people, one day are feeling fine, then the next day they're not feeling so well, they begin to notice symptoms that are typical of the flu, and within 24 hours, they're dead.
		Their lungs have filled.
		They have a type of pneumonia, and they're dead.
		And I know of nothing.
		And this is killing people in their 20s and 30s.
		Healthy people.
		Healthy people.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Well, we're working with these, for a better word, lack of a better word, I'm going to call them electronic viruses.
		And the electronic viruses can be easily manipulated by frequency.
		They're experimenting with this now in new forms of warfare where HARP is part of that experiment, where they're working with certain frequencies that can cause changes and effects within a human being, everything from emotional to effects that lead them into total disorientation.
		They come down with strange flu-like symptoms, symptoms that seem to come up out of nowhere.
		That's it.
		The other thing that a lot of people are suffering from today is something called chronic fatigue, where all of a sudden you're walking along, you feel fine, and then you feel like your legs are going to go out from under you.
		You feel like you're going to pass out.
		You just have to lie down.
		You're wondering what the heck this is.
		And it comes out of nowhere, and then it seems to go for no reason, and then you're fine for a period of time.
		And then all of a sudden it hits again, and when it hits, it just wells you over.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do you think it is?
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		It's absolutely These stealth viruses.
		It's absolutely electronic-created viruses that are responding to frequencies and experimentation.
		See, the thing is, we can't look at everything like nature is killing us, everything that's alive is bad, and the gods are punishing us.
		What we're experiencing now, and this is the important point I think that the elders are trying to get across right now and allowing me to talk about, is that what we're seeing is what we're doing ourselves.
		Because we are not getting the information.
		People are not finding out about these things.
		They have people all over the place working on cures for this, but people are as afraid to come out and talk about what they're discovering as Bob Dean's reluctant to come out and produce the evidence that he has.
		Because you'll have the men in black pull up to your door, your clinic will be shut down, your practice will be shut down, and you won't be able to work.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So this is all part of the fourth thunder.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Another thing that's part of the fourth thunder, the devil winds, you called them, huh?
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		The beginning of the fourth thunder, we would start to see the devil winds.
		And the devil winds would be these strange windstorms that would come up out of nowhere and blow beyond 200 miles an hour.
		Eventually, they would start to pick up.
		We would see El Niño come, and El Niño not only having the effects of the ocean, where the ocean itself would heat up sometimes 15 and 20 degrees higher than it should be.
		We would see strange abnormalities going on because of El Niño, where, like on South America, they're experiencing tides that are up to 15 feet higher than they should be.
		We're seeing entire portions of the coastline of Peru and Colombia washing into the ocean.
		On the other side of the earth, we're seeing the other extreme of it.
		We're seeing drought, fires in Australia and Indonesia.
		We're seeing very low tides.
		It's a whole part of El Niño.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We're seeing something really weird that was on last night's program.
		I got a fact from a person in Oklahoma who said they had a whole line of tornadoes, and that's not unusual for Oklahoma, of course.
		But what was weird was these tornadoes were actually going in the opposite direction.
		And that was confirmed by all, it was a big buzz on the radio, talk radio there and television, that they actually had photographs of the rotation of tornadoes the wrong way.
		That's almost impossible.
		But they've got the film.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		I'd like to get a copy of that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Hurricanes, which when they're in the West, are not hurricanes, actually.
		They build to much larger proportions.
		And I forget what it was, 200 and some odd miles per hour, and they're called typhoons.
		But we've never seen or recorded winds.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Weren't they just winds about a month or so ago, six weeks ago in Indonesia that were in excess of 239 miles an hour?
unidentified		Yeah.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		And I've seen winds in Montana that basically lifted up bleaches in schoolyards and carried them across the football field, and then they were gone.
		There were tornadoes in Idaho.
		You don't see tornadoes in Idaho.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There have been tornadoes in the Bay Area.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		That's what I've seen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There have been tornadoes all over the country where there ought not be.
		And, of course, everything gets blamed on El Niño, including the Mexican fires right now.
		All the rest of it, everything gets blamed on El Niño.
		And I've got Sandeo in Australia saying, hey, Art, I watch the maps.
		And guess what?
		This El Nino may be lightening up, but the other one's cranking up.
		So it's coming right back.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's also, I talk about that in Windsor Change, because basically Windsor Change got its name from El Nino.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		And we are now dealing with El Ninos used to come up every so many years.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Four years.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		And now they're coming up right on top of each other.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Correct.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		So, again, we have this reaction of the Earth in the physical to everything that's being done.
		The result of what we're seeing, we're seeing in the emotional stress, we're seeing in the mental fatigue, and we're seeing in basically what we could call now, because the world is a global society, we're seeing the decline of a global situation, a global civilization is imploding.
		And the result is the violence we see on the streets, the violence we see in our homes, the sense of hopelessness that's going on with people going out and working two jobs, not having time to be with their families, and they still can't get out of debt.
		We're dealing basically with the collapse.
		This goes back now to the Mayan prophecies, where in this time we would see the collapse of all structures, meaning religious structures, science structures, social structures, and financial structures.
		And this is exactly what we are in the middle of now.
		The result being from the cause, which is the fourth thunder, is that that which made up the consciousness of man that held the world together would begin to implode.
		When that starts to implode, when you start to lose your spirituality, when you start to lose your connection to the earth, when you start to lose your connection to who you are and how you walk this life, how you walk this path, when you lose that, you implode.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, here's a pretty good question, layman's question.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If you look from the first to wherever it is we are now in the fourth thunder.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		We're actually in the fifth.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We're in the fifth?
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		We're in the fifth, but we'll get there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		but if you were to look through what we have discussed so far the first through the fourth right uh...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		what kind of We can do that.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Yes, we can look back.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		We can actually see how it occurred.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
		So when do you think the first began?
		When do you believe the first began?
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		I think the first began in the 80s.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In the 80s.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Toward the latter part of the 80s.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		It was already beginning.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good Lord.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So we've gone from the first now into the beginning of the fifth.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		What's happening now is that the fourth and the fifth are sort of overlaying.
		Because you've got the collapse of the atmosphere.
		This is causing all of this harmful radiation to come in.
		And then you get into science.
		What is the harmful rays causing?
		How is it causing cells to mutate?
		How is it causing animal life to mutate?
		Why are the rivers lifeless?
		Why do I go to the woods now and 10 years ago I would find 37 herbs?
		I go now.
		If I find two growing, I'm lucky.
		Why is this occurring?
		Why are life forms disappearing from this earth?
		Why are there, again, new life forms appearing on the earth?
		Now, whether chupacabra is real or whether chupacabra is a story, we can go back and forth on that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		But the one thing that we know that science has already said is that there's new microbes being developed in the oceans.
		There's new life forms being developed.
		They're finding new forms of vegetation.
		They're finding new forms of insect life.
		So this is now being documented from that level and that perception that new life forms are appearing.
		So the prophecies are holding true.
		And the wonderful thing about now, the wonderful thing about looking at this is we are being given an opportunity to do a life review right here.
		We don't have to wait till we go to the next world.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Hold it right there.
		We're at the bottom of the hour.
		The prophecy is so much on top of us that last hour, Robert Ghostwolf said, there are elders who are going to actually be on my program.
		It is so close, so much on top of this, they have agreed to appear on the air.
		And believe me when I tell you, that's really unheard of.
		So that's ahead of us.
		Robert Ghostwolf is here.
unidentified		This is Coast to Coast A.M. You're listening to Arc Bell Somewhere in Time on Premiere Radio Networks.
		Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from May 27, 1998.
		Coast to Coast AM from May 28.
		What's different?
		Every time I think about it, I won't cry.
		Premier Radio Networks presents Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight's program originally aired May 27, 1998.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Boy, I think those words fit right in.
		Good morning, everybody.
		Robert Ghostwolf is here, and we are rolling through the Seven Thunders.
		This is Native American Prophecy.
		What you are hearing is a kind of compilation of Native American prophecies from many tribes that was compared and compiled at a meeting we'll tell you about again in a moment.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, back to Robert Ghostwolf and the Seven Thunders.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And these, again, were kind of a, I guess, a consensus of many elders that met when and where again, Robert.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		This is in the Taos Mountains of New Mexico, back in the early 80s.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Back in the early 80s.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So this was actually, actually they then made these, came up with these combined prophecies as the first thunder was just about to occur.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		They realized that the clock was ticking very fast.
		And so they came out with the information amongst themselves.
		Back then, it's taken this long to put them all together and get them into written form.
		And if I may, interject for a moment, because I am getting a strain on my website already.
		And we don't want to repeat ourselves and blow out the website.
		Maybe I could give a phone number so people who want to get more of this information or get the books can get it.
		You sure can.
		They can get the books about what we're talking about, which go into everything we're discussing with a lot more detail.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, I wanted to read this to you.
		This comes from Ken email.
		It says, I was impressed with the fact that the photos were real glossy prints, not the photocopies I'd expected.
		Robert is one of my favorite guests.
		He goes on, I appreciate your having him on, blah, blah, blah, blah.
		Anyway, there you have it.
		People love them, and it really is extremely high-quality stuff that you put out.
		So I thought I'd read that.
		Anyway, listen, let us now continue.
		We're in between the fourth and beginning.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		What happens now in the fourth is we begin to see the breakdown of the cosmology of the planet that literally holds the consciousness together.
		But we also start to see, as this starts to break down, we start to see the discovery of many things that have been kept hidden until this time, if we want to use that terminology, such as ancient cities start to appear.
		We start to find out about the secrets of the pyramid and the Sphinx.
		We start to find ancient texts that have been buried for hundreds of years.
		We start to find, and that goes for all sides.
		We are seeing that with the Mayan, we're seeing that with the Egyptian, and we're also seeing that in the Judeo-Christian faiths.
		We're seeing that, there's an incredible, incredible book out, Bloodline of the Holy Grail by Sir Lawrence Gardner, who is head of the Celtic Church over in Ireland.
		And he has put out from actual documents, he's not writing a story, he's simply recording his events of the bloodlines and the events that happened that were basically removed from the Bibles that we're reading today.
		The Bible itself is an incredible work if you can find one that's whole.
		And all of these things are coming up to the surface now.
		The sphinx that I discovered...
		It's already happening.
		Now as we go into the fifth thunder itself, this is where we are now working with, again, the cosmology of the earth is collapsing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The consciousness...
		You said consciousness is beginning to collapse.
		How does that manifest itself?
		I mean, what are we looking for?
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		We lived for so long under pretextes of what reality was.
		We lived for how many hundreds, perhaps thousands of years, listening to what was dictated to us as this is the nature of reality.
		This is as far as you can go.
		There is nothing more beyond this.
		Everything is external.
		Everything is outside of you.
		So on and so forth.
		This is the way it happened.
		There is no other way it happened.
		In my books, I go quite extensively into the fact of the prophets who were here on this side of the earth.
		The pale prophet, who many people relate to as the Christ, the Nazarean, who actually walked with the people here.
		There were written documents to this effect that are all throughout this land.
		It's written on the rocks in Celtic writing.
		As a matter of fact, when we did the show on the Sphinx and some of the petroglyphs that I found, we have deciphered many of those petroglyphs and the Celtic writing that was in the petroglyphs that literally give dates of things that occurred back then that they expect to occur now.
		They talk about an anomaly that happened with the sun, that the sun swelled up.
		These are the words used in the Celtic texts.
		And the sun swelled up and it gave birth to a fire that scorched the earth.
		Now if we go back, say, a thousand years ago, we will find that many of these ancient sites seem to be scorched, like either they were hit with a laser beam or some intense heat.
		And I would be really interested to go back to some of the ancient writings that Sir Lawrence Gardner has access to, because he's a sir, he's a knight, he can go into places that you and I can't go, and look at these documents and see what they wrote about what happened in that time period.
		Based on the Native American writings, what happened in that time period is there was what we would today call a solar flare that engulfed many parts of the earth.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let me also back up to the cities.
		Let me tell you something.
		Boris Saeed, Graham Hancock, they just got back from Okinawa, where they're, Boris is telling me there is no question, 100 feet underwater, there is what's left of a city that, you know, they're afraid to date it, but they think it goes back tens of thousands of years.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Square granite slabs.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
		Staircases.
		I mean, they're finding all kinds of things.
		It's incredible.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's part of the incredible part about what's going on.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		It's like, you know, we have to look at what's not so nice in order to appreciate what is so nice.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, or we have to look at the past to know the future.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If you look at the past, in other words, there may well have been a civilization that came and went.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Maybe a few.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Maybe a few.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Maybe they didn't all come from here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Maybe there's ruins under ruins.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Well, they're going to find that out in Mexico pretty soon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think so.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		That's a strange situation down there, Mark, because you've got two volcanoes on top of each other.
		And the top one, which is the one that's getting ready to burp now, basically will cause the bottom one.
		And in the prophecies, it speaks about how the tail of the turtle would break.
		This would be a sign that we were going into the sixth thunder.
		During the fifth thunder, you would have all these, the fourth thunder, you have the dimensional shifts going on, changes in frequencies.
		The twins come back.
		The twins view how we have lived our life, and they give their report to the purifier.
		The purifier then sets forth and starts to enter into our earthly domain and our little solar system.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What is the purifier?
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		The purifier is not so much an entity to my perception as it is a time of cleansing And rebirth.
		We're going back to the earth being a living organism, a living being.
		She was just shot in the hip with five atomic bombs in India.
		She's feeling that wound.
		We're feeling that wound.
		Look at the weather.
		Every time they do this, there's something with the weather.
		And based on the information you spoke about last night, I think it might be an interesting thing if you go to the globe and you look at where Mexico is right now, Mexico City, and you look at the volcanic action that's going on there.
		You're talking about, I think we spoke a little bit earlier, you have ground temperatures in excess of 200 degrees.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You and I spoke about it privately.
		I know it to be true, yes.
		200 degree ground temperatures in Mexico.
		Actually, you know what?
		There's actually reports of animals bursting into flames walking on the ground.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's freaky.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		That's very freaky.
		But go back to Mexico and take your finger and take it on a direct latitude line around to the other side of the earth, and guess what's there?
		India.
		Right where they blew the bombs up.
		So is this all happening at 19.5?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think so.
		Pakistan is getting ready to follow suit now.
		It could be in hours or days.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		If they haven't already done it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, no.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I think.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		They have some really strange earthquakes going on there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
		Yep.
		By the way, Mammoth is going nuts right now, too.
		So there's a lot of volcanism.
		The volcanism is without question.
		I mean, it's covering a lot of the U.S. right now with smoke, the smoke we talked about.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		We've had since April six volcanoes take off on the surface.
		Over 20 volcanoes spewing out under the water.
		We've had it just in the month of May, just in the last two weeks, around the ring of fire, more than six earthquakes greater than a five magnitude.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It says, under the sixth and seventh thunders, many undersea volcanoes will erupt, blowing sulfur breezes, clouds will drop black dust upon cars, huge Canadian Great Lakes and Mississippi Valley volcano action will cause land to rise as high as the Himalayas.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		There is a shelf in the Gulf of Mexico that the native people there refer to cities under the Gulf of Mexico called the cities of prophecy.
		And they're supposedly domed cities under the earth.
		And there's a shelf in there, if we look at the geometry, the geography of the earth, if we look at the configuration of the plates, there's a shelf there very similar to the Himalayas.
		When you have this volcanic action going on in that area, it will push that plate up because right now it's pushing against the northern plate.
		It's pushing up against Louisiana and Texas.
		There is no place for it to go but up.
		And according to the prophecies, when this starts, as we start with a chain of events, which I spoke about back in December, which would start in Mexico.
		It would start with a volcano blowing up in Mexico.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I well remember you said that.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		And when that started, it would start a whole chain reaction straight up the California coast.
		And again, that fault line ends right in the San Juan Islands off Washington State.
		It would start an action up there which would kick off seismographic activity in the Cascade Mountains that would not cease.
		And then we would start to see large portions of land break off and fall into the water.
		Now, we are seeing that already in South America.
		We're seeing that.
		We're seeing the other part of the prophecy, which talks about these volcanic reactions and the heating up of the earth because of it, which is all the Earth's attempt to try to purify everything.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't want to give anything away.
		I ought not, and I hope I'm not doing that, but I got a call earlier tonight from Whitley Street, but we've got a show planned for Friday.
		He will bring on, along with Jaime Lazon, he'll bring on a volcanologist from Mexico who's going to tell us the truth about what's happening there.
		And part of that truth is they expect Mount, I call it Poco, because I can't pronounce it.
		They expect that to blow shortly.
		There's a lot of news that we are not getting about what's going on with volcanoes in Mexico.
		We're going to get that Friday.
		But I mean, that fits, unfortunately, right in.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		We are now reacting to what we are doing to the Earth.
		Have you ever noticed that when something happens over in Asia within a few days or a week or so, something happens on this side?
		Sure.
		When we blow something up in India, something happens over here.
		It's all connected.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've noticed.
		I even noticed back when the French did their testing.
		Yes.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		And then we had that huge rip that's gone on in the Pacific Ocean where the land just literally opened up and you have billions of gallons an hour pouring into this hole going down into the inner earth.
		That's a whole nother discussion.
		What is the inner earth?
		But we are seeing all of this happen.
		And we are seeing the reaction of our own.
		You know, we are emotionally connected to the earth.
		We're emotionally connected to all things.
		Anyone who's ever driven to the wilds of Montana to live in the wilderness and has walked through a place that they just got through clear-cutting, you feel something.
		Just like you felt something when you're in a king's pyramid.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		I mean, the king's chamber in the pyramid.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I still can't put words to it.
		And it's probably like that.
		I mean, I'm sure you're right.
		I'm sure you feel.
		Of course we're connected to the earth.
		Anybody who says not has screws loose, elevators not going to the right floor or whatever.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Well, as we keep blowing these things up, as we keep doing these things, as the earth keeps getting damaged, do we not become more and more of an angry, violent society globally?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Gee, I haven't noticed that.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I'm glad.
		It's one thing leads to the other.
		It's an echo.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's cynical.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		It's the echo principle.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It also says here: Mount Rainier in Washington will break up the Cascade Ranges, the Pacific Rim will shift into little islands, all ocean forms will be extinguished.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All of this will come.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		We are looking right now, because to some people, they might say, well, that's a pretty wild supposition.
		But you know, we can go back to the 1980s when Jacques Cousteau took off the air after he took his stand, turned around and said, 80% of the life in the Mediterranean is dead.
		70% of the life in the Atlantic is dead.
		And now it's going to hit the Pacific.
		And we talked about that on previous shows where now we had the red tide coming into Alaska.
		We had the fish dying.
		We had the whales dying.
		You have to go farther and farther out where they used to have, you know, like we can go to the Black Sea in Georgia where they used to have so many different varieties of fish and now they have two or three.
		So we're talking about the life forms within the oceans themselves vanishing.
		And now we're seeing the same thing going on here.
		My concern is that people, if they don't understand the truth, if they don't read about the truth, start to base it on superstition.
		Well, it must be the chupacabras that are eating all the big horned sheep up in the Rockies.
		Oh, they're dying off because their food source is dying off.
		Their food source is polluted.
		We're dealing with this bacteria, again, this prion that comes with smoke, down through Canada, down through Montana, down through Wyoming, where we're seeing the deer drop dead.
		We're seeing the elk drop dead.
		Ranchers are freaking out.
		They're blaming it on a virus that they claim that the buffalo has.
		And so you have the buffalo wars going on.
		And in reality, if we could take away their fear and show them the scientific evidence, it has to do with this fungus, with the stuff they're spraying everything with.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And animals, Robert, are attacking humans.
		You were the one to first tell me that.
		Now, I've got a guest coming on tomorrow night who confirms everything you said.
		He's got the stats.
		Animal attacks against humans are up unbelievably.
		I thought you'd be interested in that confirmation.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Well, Grandpa Martin once said that one day you'll be having a picnic and the rabbits will attack you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hold it right there.
		We're going to break here at the top of the hour.
		My guest is Robert Ghost Wolf.
		And you are listening to not Robert's Thunders, but a compilation of many elders' prophecy and what is not coming, but upon us now.
		This is Coast to Coast AM.
unidentified		You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from May 27, 1998.
		The Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
		I don't keep asking what's going on.
		I tell you guys, give me the stars to the moon Don't say that you love me Just tell me that you love me Just tell me that you
		love me Don't say that you love me Don't say that you love me Don't say that you love me Don't say that you love me Don't say that you love me Don't say that you love me Don't say that you love me
		I feel every motion in my footsteps again On this air and ocean, finally love has no change.
		Running every time, this beautiful season stays inside.
		Watching this emotion as you turn around today.
		Save my breath away.
		Save my breath away.
		I'm watching, I can't wait.
		I'm going to let you go.
		Never hesitate to become a baby.
		Oh, oh.
		I'm going to let you go.
		Premier Radio Networks presents Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
		The night's program originally aired May 27, 1998.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning, everybody.
		Tomorrow night, Don Zadel and Animal Attacks on Human Beings Drastically Increasing.
		Friday night, Whitley Streber, Jaime Mazan, and a Mexican volcanologist, so that you might know what's really going on.
		Here we go.
		Robert Ghostwolf back again, and we're going to try and bear in on the phones in this segment, if that's okay with you, Robert.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Let's go.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, here we go.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		East of the Rockies, you're on here with Robert Ghostwolf.
unidentified		Hi.
		Hey, it's great to talk to you.
		You had a great show tonight.
		Thank you.
		I haven't listened to you since you came on ABC.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you're in ABC.
unidentified		I'm in New Jersey.
		I'm in New York.
		And your show is great.
		I wish it was on the whole five, six hours or whatever.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's five hours, and they have morning shows and stuff.
unidentified		I know, we only get three hours of it, but it's a great show you got coming up all night tonight.
		I have a question for Robert.
		My question is, what else does he see for the Northeast area, like New York and New Jersey area, a little bit up here?
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Otherwise, you're going to start to shift into very long winters up there, very severe winters up there.
		You're going to have a lot of problems with water, and you're going to have a lot of problems with the collapse of the social systems there, especially as we start to move into this new European dollar, debit dollar thing.
		We have to move in very shortly to this computerized means of money because that's the way they've got it set up.
		It's almost like it was deliberately forethought.
		But basically, your main problems over there are going to have to do with the earth, with the pollution.
		A lot of pollution.
		A lot of disease is going to break out along there, with the viruses.
		It's going to be rough to do that unless you get a source of clear water and unless you start learning how to grow your own food again.
		You can't rely on what they're feeding us in the supermarkets.
unidentified		Where can a person get good water?
		I mean, because I know the water is like really, the tap water is really bad.
		I get bottled water, but I mean, where else can a person get water other than bottled water?
		Are you saying get wells?
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Try to get wells.
unidentified		And that's it?
		Or what else?
		Anything else?
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		You can try to get the bottled water for as long as it's there, but what are you going to do once the supermarkets don't have the water?
unidentified		Good point.
		Because I could tell the water is already polluted in New Jersey where I live.
		Everybody buys the bottled water.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		I think that's pretty prevalent no matter where you travel these days.
unidentified		And as for the ice storms, we had a bad ice storm for six days with raining ice for days, and we had no electricity already for six days and six nights.
		So it was horrendous on the whole East Coast about two years ago.
		So I think that was...
		One of the prophecies came through already.
		But you have a great show, Art, and keep up the great work.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Take care, my friend.
		All right, west of the Rockies, you're on the air with Robert Ghostwolf.
		Hi.
		Hello there.
unidentified		Hello.
		Hi.
		This is Whispering Oak, and I can't Colorado, and I have been approached, or a friend of mine was approached, by a man called C-A-L-I-G-A-S-T-I-A.
		And he says that the truth has not come out about the Sacred Valley.
		And I would like to know what do you think about what he says.
		Ghostwriter.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		What I think about that is that there's much too much negativity in the perceptions that the person is putting upon what the truth is.
		And that's all I really want to say about it.
		The truth hasn't come out only because it hasn't been thoroughly investigated, which is an ongoing situation.
		And there are more places that reflect to that.
		I can't help people who want to hold on to doom and gloom because that's not necessarily the picture.
unidentified		I just wanted you to confirm our feelings about what he had told us.
unidentified		And I appreciate it very much.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Thank you very much, ma'am, for your call, and take care.
		Diplomacy, that's good.
		First time caller line, you're on the air with Robert Ghostwolf.
unidentified		Oh, hi.
		I'm calling.
		I'm from San Diego.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, you're going to have to pick up a real phone.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You must be on a speaker.
unidentified		I'm talking into Bugs Bunny.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Bugs Bunny.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, pick up the real phone, if you would, please, for us.
unidentified		The only problem is it's the only one I have.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You only have a Bugs Bunny?
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		See, I can't afford very much, but it's a cheap store.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so talk into Bugs closely, and we'll see what we can do.
unidentified		Okay.
		First of all, I just want to say this is the best show I've ever heard you done.
		You do.
		And also for Robert Guswoff.
		Yes.
		Uh-huh.
		I wanted to ask you about the Rabi rock, the prophecy rock.
		I have, in a book, Meditations with the Hopi, I have there's a couple of pictures.
		There's like a swastika and a sun type of thing.
		And then there seems to be like a dress or a woman's dress and a baseball cap kind of design.
		I'm wondering if you know anything about that.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		About the baseball cap?
unidentified		Yeah, or it looks like a woman's cap.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think that refers to what you're speaking of, because we're not looking at the picture.
		But what you're referring to is the Bahana, which will be known by a red robe or wearing these red hats.
		And that's got to do with the prophecies of the light that comes from the north, the night that reunites the people and brings about a new way during a time where it appears that we almost fall into total devastation.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Bugs, Bunny, telephones, I think that marks the near end myself.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air with Robert Ghostwolf.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hi, this is Casey from Nashville, Tennessee.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello, Casey.
unidentified		Hi.
		Number one, I just want to say real quickly, and then I'll ask my question.
		I am 22 years old, so I'm fairly young.
		And so many people my age, and just as society in general, but especially people my age, are so uninformed about what is going on.
		And when you try to talk to them about these things, they just kind of look at you like you're crazy.
		And I have read your book, The Quickening, and I listen to your show all the time and have introduced it to a lot of my friends.
		And I want to thank you for making the information that you have available to us.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		So I want to ask Mr. Ghost Wolf, I feel really disheartened and apprehensive about all the things that I'm hearing here.
		And I mean, anybody that listens to this would.
		But I'm wondering, do you see any part of our world that is going to survive this in any normal fashion?
		Or, I mean, is everything just going to collapse?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Fair question.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		There's going to be many areas where people Are going to take a stand and start to turn the tide back the other way.
		These things that happen and the purpose of prophecy, you know, prophecy basically is to warn.
		It's like this is what the weather looks like.
		There's a storm coming in.
		The purpose of prophecy is not ever to say this is absolutely the way it is.
		What it's saying is that this is coming.
		If you know that a severe storm is coming, then you have the means to prepare for it.
		If you don't know that it's coming, then you're taken by surprise.
		Many of the people who will suffer greatly with what we're going to go through as far as physical cataclysmic earth changes, as they start to intensify, will be those who didn't listen.
		Those who were uninformed to get swept away.
		All of a sudden it's like, wow, what do I do?
		I don't have any water.
		What do I do?
		I can't eat my vegetables.
		It's like there's so much information coming out now that's giving us all of the tools that we need to prepare for what's going to happen.
		But to hide our heads in the sand and use ostrich medicine isn't going to work.
unidentified		Okay.
		Let me ask you this.
		Where can I look or what can I read?
		I'm assuming that maybe your books cover this.
		And if not, briefly tell me if you have time.
		What are the things that we need to be doing?
		I'm an individual.
		I'm not a part of any major organization.
		I don't have a big team of people behind me.
		So what do I need to do as a person?
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		There's a lot in my books or you've got the Hopi Survival Book.
unidentified		Okay.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		These will give you a lot of basics.
unidentified		Okay.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Or you can read Mother Earth News.
unidentified		Mother Earth News.
		Okay.
		Well, I think we've covered everything I need to know at this point.
		And thank you once again.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		Okay, thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Take care.
		Bye.
		Easter of the Rockies.
		You're on the air with Robert Ghostwolf.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hey, good morning, Art.
unidentified		How are you doing?
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Fine.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		I'm calling you all the way from St. Thomas and the Virgin Islands.
unidentified		You're WSTU affiliate.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning, Virgin Islands.
unidentified		Hey, listen, you guys, you get me thinking, you get me scared.
unidentified		You get me worried, but I can't stop listening.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's the way it is for me, too, sir.
unidentified		Yeah, I'd like to ask Mr. Ghostwolf, what does he see through our area?
unidentified		Caribbean, you know, Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands, things like that.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Well, a lot of the places there are probably going to turn out you'll be on a mountaintop, literally.
		There's going to be, you know, there's always a lot of activity down there.
		There's always storms.
		There's always things going on.
		But I think, you know, I wouldn't get too close to the beach.
		But you're going to suffer a lot of windstorms down there.
		And the rains.
		The rains will become torrential down there.
		So you're going to have a lot of uprooting of trees and that kind of thing.
		But basically, a lot of those places are going to be fairly highly protected.
unidentified		Well, that's good.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Where you are in St. Thomas is not a bad place to be at all.
unidentified		Really?
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Neither is Puerto Rico, except for the military base over there.
unidentified		Wow.
unidentified		So I was thinking, how about moving inside Mother Earth, as they say, like, you know, underground areas like this?
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		If you move into rock.
unidentified		Yes, solid rock.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		You know, if you move into the mud, well, it's not really going to protect you.
unidentified		No, well, you know, it's pretty mountainous and pretty hard rock here, you know.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		And I think that the other thing is, you know, as you get closer to nature and literally try to communicate, you're going to find that she responds.
		You know, it's like when you have a garden and you love what you're growing, everything seems to grow.
		I mean, the hope you grow corn without water.
		So if they can do that without water, you can communicate with where you are and you'll be told more or less, this is what you need.
		This is a good thing to do.
		The main problem with people is they've shut themselves off from themselves.
		Never mind the earth.
unidentified		This one says for sure.
		I really appreciate that.
		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, you take care, my friend, all the way from the Virgin Islands.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Robert Ghostwolf.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello, Artemel.
unidentified		This is Dr. Singh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Dr. Singh, I can barely hear you.
unidentified		Well, can you hear me now?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Not very well.
unidentified		This phone is giving up on me, too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it is giving up.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Very quickly, do you have a question?
unidentified		Yes, Ghost Wolf.
		Paul, I have a question for you.
		Yes, go ahead.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Go ahead.
unidentified		Ghostwolf, first thing, this is Dr. Singh.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Hello, Dr. Singh.
unidentified		I'd like to thank you for getting your wife, Laura Lee, to communicate with me.
unidentified		Thank you.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		We have a little more work to do?
unidentified		Yes, I most certainly do.
		I'm looking from the Sanskrit text in India and its prophecies in connection to what is happening out here.
		They speak about similar things.
		Catastrophic things back in the 50s they started releasing this information and in a lot of the prophecies they speak about similar changes around the world.
		What I wanted to ask you about is if you looked at any of the Eastern religions.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		You know, I suppose it's a valid question, but you're not a biblical scholar.
		You're an expert on Native American prophecy.
		And have you looked at Eastern religions?
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		I read a lot of the Vedas.
		And there's very close parallels between what they have to say.
		Also, a lot of the solutions lie in the Arya Vedic texts in the way healing will go, the way medicine, if we call it medicine, is actually healing, the way it will work.
		They're very advanced in the understanding of energies and why things affect us the way they do and how our bodies are in balance and not imbalance and how diet affects us.
		And so they're very, very accurate.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		First time caller line, you're on the air with Robert Goastwolf.
unidentified		Hi.
		Yeah, hi.
		This is Jeff calling from Vancouver, British Columbia.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Jeff.
unidentified		I have a question.
		In the area that I Live in or Alberta.
		I'm considering moving to Alberta.
		Which would be the better place to go?
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Alberta's a good place.
		It's the grandmotherland that's going to become the breadbasket of the world.
		Really?
unidentified		Oh.
unidentified		That I like to hear.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		It's the grandmotherland.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		That's all I have to ask.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, all right.
		That's a good straightforward answer.
		The breadbasket of the world, huh?
unidentified		Yes, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		Uh, well, Carline, you're on air with Robert Ghostwolf.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, uh, Arbel.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		It's a pleasure to speak to you and Mr. Ghostwolf.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Welcome, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		I'm calling from central Minnesota.
unidentified		My name is Peter.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		And I have a quick comment and a question.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Fire away.
unidentified		Fire away.
		Mr. Ghostwolf, I have sort of an idea of clairvoyant just sort of prophecies more along the lines of four or five-dimensional kinds of thinking.
		Have you ever heard that idea?
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And then the other comment was, have you ever heard of the author Alan Alford?
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm not familiar.
unidentified		This came out, well, many months ago in Britain.
unidentified		It was on the best settle list for a long time, and he's basically compiled all of his Zachariah Sitchin work and taken the work further and explains how the Great Pyramid function, in very ancient times, functioned as a machine.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it does.
unidentified		It's a book called Gods of the New Millennium, and I highly recommend that you try and acquire it and perhaps get him as a guest on the show.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, I appreciate the advice.
		As far as the pyramid being a machine, we discussed that earlier.
		That is Danion's view as well.
		I don't know that I absolutely believe that, but there is something completely inexplicable about the pyramid.
		There's no question about that.
		Robert, hold on.
		We're at the bottom of the hour.
		And for clarity, every now and then I do this.
		I am presently in a chat room on AOL in a place called the Grassy Knoll.
		And if you would like to join us there, you certainly are welcome to.
		Just log on to AOL.
		Go to Keyword.
		You just click on Keyword and type in Art Bell.
		A-R-T-B-E-L-L.
		You'll go to the Grassy Knoll, click on where it says Grassy Knoll, and you can come on in.
		I've been there for a little while.
		Generally, when people are in there, somebody has sent me some emails that there was an impersonator in there.
		So I thought, and indeed that was an impersonator, but I'm there now.
		So there you are.
		If you'd like to come into a chat room where I'm located, it's the Grassy Knoll on AOL.
		Remember, just go to keyword, type in Art Bell, and whoosh, along you come to the Grassy Khollo.
		The Grassy Knoll, is that a name for a chat room or what?
		From the high desert, this is Coast to Coast AM.
unidentified		You're listening to Art Bell somewhere in time on Premiere Radio Networks.
		Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from May 27, 1998.
		Coast to Coast AM from May 28.
		You're listening to our bell somewhere in time on Freeman Radio Networks tonight on your presentation of Postgre Post AM from May 27th, 1998.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And as I told you earlier, love, beyond any shadow of any doubt, is the strongest force in the universe.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, we're in the stretch run now with Robert Ghostwolf.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Robert, are you there?
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		We're here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, here we go.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		First of all, some of you, your people might be interested, and I'm going to be talking to the, you're talking about the ARPL Chat Club.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		And I'm going to be in Seattle with the ARPL Chat Club in July.
		You're kidding.
		Yeah, and then in September, I'm going to be down in Phoenix with the Arpel Chat Club down there.
unidentified		Wow.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		And I'll be bringing out some new information, new prophecies, and some new information on what's going on with the healing and whatnot, because I've sort of taken a year off from public appearances because I'm working very hard putting these healing centers together up here.
		And then I'm going to be with David Oates at the Sky Festival, July 18th and 19th, down in San Diego.
		We're going to pull him out of the closet.
		I won't burn you out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		First time calling online, you're on the air with Robert Ghostwolf.
unidentified		Hello.
		Hello.
		I have a question for each of you, if I may.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		You may.
unidentified		First, Mr. Bell, what does it take to get a refund from SciTech?
unidentified		I haven't heard from them after I sent my module back about two months ago.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, first of all, as far as I know, I have no idea what the refund policy Is I don't recall that there was any guaranteed refund, so I can't answer your question.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There certainly was never one advertised.
unidentified		Well, I wish I knew what to do because I don't get any kind of response, and I sent it in, and I don't get anything.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you should have done without, you know, without, in other words, if somebody, when they advertise, they don't say it's guaranteed return policy of some sort or refund.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You should always write a letter first.
unidentified		I did, and I also called, and I can't get hold of a human being, and I can't get a response.
unidentified		Mr. Please spell your guest's last name.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Go ahead, Robert.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Spell it for her.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		G-H-O-S-T as in Ghost.
unidentified		And O-L-F as in Wolf.
unidentified		W-O-L-F-L-F.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, Wolf, as in Wolf.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		What do you think of the area of Eureka, Illinois that's between Peoria and Bloomington?
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		I think that you should get a hold of some organic seeds.
		Wheat, but make sure they're organic.
		Make sure they're old seeds.
		There's a lot of hybrid things going on there.
unidentified		Can I get it right from the farmer?
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Most of the farmers in that area, to my knowledge, have hybrid seeds.
		And you can't regrow crops from that.
		But there are a lot of areas that you could research where they still sell those kinds of seeds.
		You're in a big flat area that's filled with a lot of commercial farming and a lot of commercial fertilizer.
unidentified		Oh, yes.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		You know, so I would definitely start a little garden.
unidentified		How do I search for this organic seed?
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		There are several magazines you could get.
		You could get like the Herb Quarterly.
		They usually have that down at most better newsstands or bookstores.
		And there's a few of them near your area.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you can still get good organic seeds?
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		If the government has their way, we're not going to be able to in six months.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What?
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		They've put new restrictions on organic seeds.
		They're controlling all organic seeds.
		It's Fulborne Canada through an organization called Codex, which basically Codex, C-O-D-E-X, which is basically the UN, which is where they're trying to control the growth of all herbs everywhere.
		You can't even go into Canada now with Comfrey.
		It's considered a felony.
		You're kidding.
		No, if you try to cross the border from America over there, you can't bring it.
		They confiscate it.
		They impound your car.
		It's a little bit bizarre.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The war on herbs, huh?
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		The war on herbs.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wildcard Line, you're on the air with Robert Ghostwolf.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		Hi, this is Donna from Pomona, California.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello, Donna.
unidentified		Hi, this is the first time listening to your show.
unidentified		And I wish I would have heard about it a lot sooner.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, we've been here a long time.
unidentified		Yeah, I was interested in a question for Ghostwolf.
		Sure.
		Well, about a year ago, I started meditation.
		So I've done a lot of meditation and healing energy and all that.
		What I was wondering is, is there a healing group in the area that is familiar with Ghost Wolf prophecies and whatnot to help heal the planet?
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		In your area?
unidentified		Yeah, in Pomona, California?
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		I don't start groups.
unidentified		No.
unidentified		The reason I was wondering, in the meditation group that I am in, we were doing a...
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		They don't take on anybody's particular philosophy because it depends on where you're coming from with them, but they're basic principles that can be applied very simply even by a child, which can help you change your frequency and your perception of self.
		It all comes down to L-O-V-E.
		Right, right.
		And I don't know if you're familiar with Daniel Brinkley, but he can speak quite well about what prayers and love can do.
unidentified		Who is that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Daniel Brinkley.
		He's a frequent guest.
		You'll get to hear him.
		Don't worry.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		And can I share a quick poem that I wrote a couple months ago with Ghostwolf?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I would prefer that you send it if you wouldn't mind.
unidentified		Oh, no problem.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, thank you very much, and take care.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Robert Ghostwolf.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		Good morning, actually.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's definitely morning.
unidentified		Yes, it is indeed.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		This is Tim in Orlando.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		And you have to hate, Robert.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		I just thought I'd say hello.
unidentified		I wanted to ask you about New Mexico.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		I sent you some facts as Art.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		I understand you bought land in New Mexico, too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		May I ask whereabouts?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
		I call it Edgeworld.
		It's east of Albuquerque at about 7,000 feet.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Oh, up around Moriarty?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Edgewood, actually.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Edgewood, okay.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		It's interesting.
unidentified		There's a lot of people starting to find this state.
		For me, it's an old family type thing.
		I go back many generations in New Mexico, and I feel kind of indigenous in a way, too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I call it Edge World.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I just joke about it.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		It's a good word.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it is.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		It's way up there if you get up on Sandia.
unidentified		That's right.
		My area is up around Raton and Cimarron.
		And I'm wondering if that area, if you've got any kind of insight into that there, Robert.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good question.
		I'll second that.
		How about that area?
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		You know, if you're up into Sandia, you have a lot of good water.
		If you're up north of Taos, you have a lot of good water.
		The problem with a lot of New Mexico, because I lived there for close to 15 years outside of Santa Fe, and the problem with a lot of New Mexico is you have hundreds, if not thousands of miles of underground tunnels that the government installed, and they put a lot of pollutants and whatnot that they buried in there.
		The trains would come in all the time at 3 o'clock in the morning, and they would dump their refuse right on the side of the road by the reservations, or they would take it, and then trucks would come and bury it in these tunnels.
		And the thing is that you have a lot of Radioactivity going on in the water.
		So I would say check out your water, have your water tested and see what it's like in the area.
		And also turn around and take a look at the wildlife.
		See if it's healthy and abundant and what are the trees like.
		You know, like New Mexico's got its own unique kind of forest.
		You know, first time I ever saw a New Mexico forest and looked at three-foot-tall trees, I wondered how big the cows were, you know.
		Because they must be real little.
		But it's like, check the water and check the way things are growing.
		If there's an abundance of wildlife, if there's an abundance of birds singing, you're probably in a safe area.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, that's a really good test to bear in mind.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Robert Coast Wolf.
unidentified		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello there.
		Going?
		Yes, ma'am.
unidentified		I'm from New Mexico.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, for you.
unidentified		And I was wondering, all this bad stuff I've heard tonight about people are going to freeze to death and they're going to get diseases and they're going to die and the government's going to go broke and we're going to be in a mellow heath, as you call it.
unidentified		And so what can you do to prepare for anything like that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I guess that's a fair question.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		General preparation type stuff, Bravo?
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Most people in New Mexico are pretty artery and self-sufficient.
		Yeah, they are.
		And like I said, I lived there a long time, and there's a lot of great pockets in New Mexico.
		As far as people freezing to death and diseases, well, actually, it's not prophecy anymore.
		It's happening.
		And, you know, in the area that you're in, I think your winters are getting a little more severe.
		I think the winters down in New Mexico are getting pretty severe.
		At the same time, there's a lot of gentle areas.
		You have a lot of little microclimates down in there.
		And you're dealing with some very old spirits and some very old places that are pretty okay.
		But it depends on where you go.
		You just have to be, you know, discerning about where you go.
		If you go to a place and the economy is really busted and people are dying and trees are not growing and people are getting weird growths and cancer, it's the basic thing in New Mexico is to think about the water.
		But at the most part, you still have enough of the wilderness and you can live off most of the land in New Mexico.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Robert Ghostwolf.
		Where are you, please?
unidentified		In Oklahoma.
unidentified		And a pleasant good morning to both of you gentlemen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning to you.
unidentified		I was curious earlier in the show.
		I wanted to make sure I didn't misunderstand you what date you said that was in August for the eclipse.
		Or was it you talking about the planetary alignment?
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm talking about August 22nd.
		and that was for the And you've got at least five planets coming into alignment.
		I don't have the map sitting in front of me.
unidentified		Now, when you say alignment, do you mean just do you mean a conjunctive alignment or just the alignment like they are now?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, no.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		No, we're talking about a straight line.
		They're all coming into a straight line.
		So the pulls and the pushes, it's like, you know, how the moon affects tides and things here.
		And whenever you have an eclipse or whenever you have planets coming into an alignment, you have strange things going on.
		You have strange emotions going on.
		You have strange things going on with weather.
		So I think it's going to be really interesting to watch compiled with what's been going on with the nuclear blast that they're doing.
		And how far can you push the Earth?
		She's reacting right now.
unidentified		I can't disagree with that.
unidentified		The only thing I can disagree with is if it was me and I was going to look for an annual eclipse, I'd look the day before.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Thank you very much for the call, and good morning.
		Welcome to the Rockies.
		You're on the air with Robert Ghostwolf.
		Hello.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		This is Olin in Culver City, California.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		I was just wanting to ask if all of these planets being in alignment behind us and the sun in front of us, if that's causing seismic strains in the Earth's surface as we rotate, because that might be activating all these volcanoes underwater and underground.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it may be.
		Certainly there are strains caused by those alignments.
		There's no question about that.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		One body affects another body.
		But we don't have enough information on Earth yet to give a clear, precise diagnosis of exactly what it's causing.
		But these planets are shifting, and they're shifting their orbits.
		They're shifting their positions.
		The whole solar system is moving.
		So I would say without a question of a doubt, it's affecting things here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I would agree.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		First time caller line, you're on the air with Robert Ghostwolf.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
		Call us toll-free at 1-800-618-8255.
		Okay, we're going to have to start again.
		We don't allow last names on the air.
unidentified		Oh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry about that.
		Again, your name is Ron and you're in Superior, Wisconsin.
		We'll have to go with that.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, turn your radio off, please, again.
unidentified		Go ahead.
		Yeah, this is Ron in Superior, Wisconsin.
		And I'd like to have some information basically what's going to be going on around here in Wisconsin, around the Superior area.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		I'm not clear exactly where that is.
unidentified		It's right by Duluth, Minnesota, right across the water from Duluth, Minnesota.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, you're not that far from a lot of herbs, you know.
		You have a lot of things growing up there.
		There'll be a lot of resources for you to gather from when things get crazy.
unidentified		Yeah.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		So you're in a relatively good place.
		And there's a lot of, I know I have a lot of Ojibwe friends up there.
		And there's some very good places to be up there.
		But if you're too close to the lake, you're going to get a little wet.
unidentified		Yeah, I heard there's supposed to be like the lake is supposed to flood over.
		And it's supposed to come over.
		It's supposed to flood Superior.
		And it's supposed to flood.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		They're going to flood over into each other and create one big lake.
unidentified		Oh.
		So I'd avoid shorefront property.
		Maybe I should be living across on the other side of the lake up on top of the hill in Duluth.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		That would be good.
unidentified		They're up on top of the hill, I figure they're safe there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So, high ground is good.
unidentified		Oh, high ground is good.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		If you're living near the water, it's what?
unidentified		You know, they're going to go up at least 200 feet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Excuse me?
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Shorelines are going to go up 200 feet.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Lakes are not excluded.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		200 feet.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		The oceans will go up at least 200 to 300 feet.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		That was one of the prophecies.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		East of the Rockies, you're on there with Robert Ghostwolf.
		Hello.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, good morning.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		It's Rick and Mississauga.
unidentified		You're listening on 610 CKTV.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you again, sir?
unidentified		Mississauga, Ontario.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, Ontario.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		I guess that's that far.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		What about this area?
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		There's going to be a lot of seismographic activity up in that area.
		But again, a lot of Canada is going to be spared a lot of devastation, from my understanding, because it is the grandmotherland.
		British Columbia will be hit very hard.
		And I'm not sure exactly where your area is.
		I'm not that familiar with little places in Canada, so forgive me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Toronto's pretty big, actually.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we just outside of Toronto off of Lake Ontario.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		So near Lake Ontario.
		So some of what you just heard a few moments ago would apply.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Meaning the Great Lakes will spill over and make one big lake.
		So yeah, and that's, you know, understand that that kind of an occurrence is going to cause, there's got to be a lot going on for that to happen.
		So you probably have a lot of rain, amongst other things, that's what causes land to shift is young mountain ranges and loose soil.
		It makes everything slide like they're seeing right now down in Peru.
		The things that are going on in Peru are almost apocalyptic.
		But people around here are aware of it.
		We're sort of surrounded by nuclear reactors with our atomic power plants here, right?
		Well, that would be a good reason for me to consider moving.
		Yeah, the problem is, we're surrounded by them.
		We've got one up on Lake Huron, two down here on Lake Ontario, and there's one up in the Ottawa area up on the Ottawa River.
		So we're in dead ground here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Nuclear power plants and earth changes don't go together.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		No, not at all.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		So another aspect you may want to consider and listeners may want to consider is keeping away from pipelines, gas pipelines, and oil pipelines, because absolutely the Southwest is going to be hit pretty hard with that stuff.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I appreciate your call, sir, and we are woefully, completely, utterly out of time, but we do have time because I reserved it away for you to get the information out on your books one more time, Robert.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		They can get the books and the information, and the information is constantly being upgraded.
		and the books are now also being carried by barnes and noble and most of the big bookstores all they are yeah third all over the place all excellent i didn't know that when did you uh...
		get them into the bookstores six weeks ago to eight weeks ago they went into a certainly told the bookstores.
		And for some reason or they put me right next to you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely excellent.
		All right.
		Robert, thank you so very much.
		We'll do it again, of course.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		And I'll let you know what happens in Arizona.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Please do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We'll be in touch.
robert ghostwolf ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good night, my friend.
		That is Robert Ghostwolf.
		And I'm Art Bell, and I'm sorry, but the clock says we are out of time.
unidentified		That's the Zeit clock.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So, tomorrow, I think you're going to be interested in what we've got coming.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's Don Zadel, who wrote a book called American Mankillers, about animal attacks on humans drastically increasing from the high desert.

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