Art Bell’s Coast to Coast AM features a former U.S. military submarine comms officer alleging 1980s near-nuclear failures and a secret 1985 Mir space station, while callers share bizarre claims: a Quebec City time traveler linked to 1932’s Southern Cross, a tornado-creating meditator tied to Area 51’s Aurora project, and a webbed-toed caller suspecting atomic testing origins. A self-proclaimed Great White Brotherhood master reports a Las Vegas UFO sighting, and an aerospace engineer’s redundant pacemaker—implanted in 1983—raises FDA questions. Bell critiques pharmaceuticals’ cold cure stagnation, warns against sharing evidence with governments, and muses on oil industry suppression of zero-emission tech, hinting at deeper conspiracies lurking beyond mainstream science. [Automatically generated summary]
From the High Desert and the great American Southwest, I bid you all good evening or good morning as the case may be, and welcome to yet another edition, the second since I've returned of Coast to Coast A.M. live talk radio throughout the nighttime, largest live overnight talk show in America by country mile, stretching from the Asian and Hawaiian Islands in the west all the way east to the Caribbean, U.S. Virgin Islands, and more, south into South America, north to the Pole, and worldwide on the internet, this is Coast to Coast AM.
Good morning, everybody.
We are going to have open lines again tonight.
Now, tomorrow night...
I've got a very, very interesting piece of email, and I've booked a guest based on it.
And I'll read you part of it now.
Art, I'm a ham radio operator, and he gives me his call.
And a former submarine communications officer.
And I thought you might be interested in hearing some of the rather frightening things that occurred with military radio in the late 1980s.
For example, a near-complete failure of the low-frequency radio systems used to communicate with SSBN subs that brought the world to the brink of nuclear war.
This event and others were the primary reason why I left the military service as the potential for disaster became very clear to me.
Are you aware, Art, there is a second Russian Mir space station in orbit.
The station was in orbit as early as 1985, its whereabouts in space carefully tracked by the U.S. government, as it was dedicated to strictly military purposes.
I would be willing to speak on your show, provided we could protect my identity.
I am still bound by the top-secret SCI crypto clearances that I held while in the military.
I will also be happy to establish my bona fide record to your satisfaction to prove that I am not some kind of nut.
While not active in the military nor any other government anti-government movement, I can tell you I am highly suspect of many things the government is telling us with regard to communications and space.
Please contact me if you're interested.
He gives his name.
So I did that, and he appears to be everything he says he is.
It should be a rather interesting interview.
That is a submarine communications officer tomorrow night.
And I'll tell you more about tonight in a moment.
Yesterday I welcomed some radio stations to the network.
Well, I only got about halfway through the list.
I didn't see the rest of the list.
Yesterday we welcomed KBVI in Boulder, Colorado, WTIC in Hartford, Connecticut, WRKO in Boston, Mass, WPRO in East Providence, Rhode Island, WREL in Lexington, Virginia, WBLJ in Dalton, Georgia.
But somehow I forgot to welcome KMAJ in Topeka, Kansas, KTBRFM in Coos Bay, Oregon, KFARAM in Fairbanks, Alaska, now carrying more of the program.
KSCO in Santa Cruz, California, KSVP in Artesia, New Mexico, WSGWAM in Saginaw, Michigan KSMTFM in Breckenridge, Colorado KRKM-FM in Kremling, Colorado and KRKY in Granby, Colorado.
So as you can see, while I was gone, the network was busily acquiring new affiliates, and who knows how many millions of people these stations alone cover.
But that's a rather impressive gain, I would say, particularly for somebody who was off cruising around in the Mediterranean.
Now, I have a complaint that I want to make at the top of the show.
We can go to the moon.
As we discussed on yesterday's program, we can apparently soon grow headless human bodies in order to harvest organs, clones, as it were, from you that could be grown to give you a liver or a heart or lungs.
In other words, torsos only, without a head, without a brain.
This is amazing science.
Even a little scary as far as I'm concerned and perhaps ethically bent.
We can do things the mind can barely grasp and we're not prepared to deal with ethically.
And we still can't cure the common cold.
Now, what is wrong with that picture?
My answer is plenty.
Plenty wrong with that picture.
And I, of course, have a cold.
So it brought it to mind.
I mean, here we do these incredible, astounding things.
We can't cure the common cold.
Something's wrong with that picture.
I was contacted earlier today by Strange Universe.
We've got a pretty good relationship, and over some period of time, we have done a lot together.
And they solicited my help in something they've got coming up called the Strange or Weird Person contest.
They are trying to find the weirdest person in the world.
Some figures they'd come to me, right?
And I'm going to be a judge.
They want me to be a judge.
So they are going to collect information and have a contest to find the weirdest person in the world.
And they are going to give, shower upon this person, prizes like bringing them to Los Angeles, that sort of thing.
Treating them to this and that.
You know, it's going to be a big contest.
And I thought, who better to find a weird person than me?
I've got them stacked up like cordwood out there.
Now, I thought tonight I would steal their idea and try to find the weirdest person in the world myself.
So I'm going to open a weird person line.
If you think you're really, really weird, and I'm leaving the category very open because there's plenty of weird people out there.
But if you think you fit into that category and you could be a winner, then you're going to want to call my weird person line tonight.
At area code 7.
So I'm going to be a judge, by the way.
And I thought this might help me warm up.
And you're going to, you know, obviously have to explain to us all how weird you really are and why you would deserve a prize.
I'm not giving a prize.
However, if you're really weird, then you can obviously enter the weird person contest that Strange Universe is about to have.
The president now suddenly supporting it after a lot of Democrats decided they would.
Though we shall see.
President Clinton is poised to announce a new plan for the climate, for global warming.
And I was watching the coverage of this earlier this night on CNN.
And I thought it rather interesting that as they presented both arguments with regard to global warming, is it real?
Is it just the figment of somebody's political agenda-driven imagination?
Which is it?
You know, both sides admitted there is a climate change underway.
Even those who think that global warming is bunk are now admitting, well, yes, there does seem to be a climate change underway.
And I've been saying this, as you well know, for some time.
Now, one side, of course, wants to suggest it has nothing to do with global warming, that it's all a bunch of bunk.
But they're admitting there is a climate change underway.
The other side, of course, knows there's a climate change as well underway, but blames it on greenhouse emissions, you know, cars, the burning of fossil fuels, that kind of thing.
But I just found it interesting that both sides now seem to agree a climate change is definitely underway.
There is no question about it.
None.
A big breakthrough, they say, in electric automobiles, still, though, years away, you know, so you can go out and buy them.
And my guess would be the big breakthrough in electric automobiles and the general availability to most of you out there is going to occur after or as we approach the actual finite limit of oil in the ground, fossil fuels in the ground.
In other words, they are going to get an electric car just in the nick of time and not one minute sooner.
And I was talking to a good friend of mine up in the Bay Area about this the other day, and we all know that at present rates of usage, which, by the way, are going to actually increase, we only have 40 or 45 years of oil left in the ground, and we all know that we can pull from the ground and use to drive our cars and engines and lubricate this and that.
40 to 45 years.
And he said, you know, a good subject for your show, One Night Art, might be to discuss what people think would happen in 40 or 45 years if we do not find a replacement for fossil fuel.
And it is a very good question, isn't it?
Airplanes would stop flying.
Cars would stop driving.
Commerce would come to a grinding halt.
What do you think would happen to society?
We would take a giant step backward.
Wouldn't we?
Could we?
Do you think that there would be wars over the last remaining oil?
Because as the reserves dry up, even those countries that produce in bulk now are going to use that oil selfishly, domestically.
They're not going to sell it.
Things are going to get very tight very quickly.
And then I saw the business on the electric cars tonight, and I thought, hmm.
I bet they come up with those in bulk at reasonable affordable rates just before we run out of oil which begs the question of course could they really be doing it right now and I would almost lay money on the answer that you bet they can.
When I was in Egypt, I first met with Dr. Zahi Hawass.
Dr. Hawass is the Director of Antiquities at Giza.
In other words, he maintains and is in charge of the research, the archaeology that goes on, the digging, such as it is, around the Sphinx, the Great Pyramids, and all of the associated relics and things at Giza, which is an incredible, incredible place.
Now, I'm going to let you hear a couple of things.
It's really a shame, and I only very occasionally wish I had television because I have video to go with what you're about to hear.
What I did was dub the following down from my video camcorder.
So let me sort of give you an idea of what you're going to hear.
The first is, yesterday, you may recall I told you there was a five-ton piece of granite that I saw one man, one man with a sledgehammer break very precisely in half.
I mean, it was unbelievable.
A guy took a sledgehammer and went to work on a five-ton piece of granite, pure granite, and split that sucker right in half like he had, you know, like a knife going through butter.
It was amazing.
Now, I've got the audio from that, and then Zahi comments afterwards.
You've got to listen, you know, listen very carefully.
But here is just a few days ago in Egypt.
Here's a man going to work on a five-ton piece of granite.
All right, there was the first segment I wanted to play you.
Now, obviously, the video attendant with that audio shows this guy with a sledgehammer splitting precisely down the middle a five-ton piece of granite.
One man, five tons, two minutes.
It was a mind-blower.
And you should see the video.
The rock simply parts in the middle, and that's the end.
It was a total mind-blower.
Now, what I'm going to play for you when we come back from the break is the actual trek that we were making up the Great Pyramid.
And believe me, it's a huffer and a puffer.
It's really something trying to get up to the top of the Great Pyramid, up to the king's chamber.
And I was directly behind Zahi Hawas.
Zahi had no idea my camcorder was running while we were making that trek.
So when we come back in a moment, I'm going to play you a little bit of audio from this videotape that will reveal the other side of Zahi Hawas coming up next.
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Like the oil in the ground that I think is going to continue to come from the ground until it is no longer profitable to bring it from the ground, and then it'll be time to, you know, do something ecologically more friendly.
The dollar is driving that, and the dollar is driving the common cold.
In other words, we probably still have the common cold because it is incredibly profitable.
She is exactly right on the money.
And now, from Pastor Bradley, Dear Art, have you heard about the big fuss that Janet Reno is stirring up with Microsoft?
Oh, yeah.
Big fine.
Million bucks a day.
She's claiming they're violating anti-monopoly laws, wants them to pay a million dollars a day until they cease.
Could it be another ploy to distract us from other investigations?
Well, yes.
It could.
But I rather thought the best way for Microsoft to solve their problem would be to simply put a copy of Netscape in each new Windows 95 or 96 or whatever it is they're coming out with next, as well as their own browser.
And that'd be the end of that.
I would think that people at Netscape would be happy about that.
And I would think that it would be a good solution.
People can use whatever they want.
Well, listen, we'll get to this second audio clip in a second.
Now, what I am going to play for you, you're going to have to listen very carefully because it was a noisy environment.
I went up inside the Great Pyramid.
A great pyramid.
Going up to the king's chamber where the sarcophagus is, the one I actually laid down in.
That's a whole other story.
But on the way up, it's a very long, hot, difficult trek with a lot of people.
Zahi Awass, the director of Antiquities at Giza, was directly ahead of me.
And I don't think he knew that I had the camcorder running.
Now, I was huffing and puffing, and you will hear me very much out of breath, along with everybody else that was making the climb.
But Zahi is directly in front of me.
And Zahi, when I first met him, of course, was an extremely cordial, extremely, seemingly open man, a very even-tempered man, I might add.
Very even-tempered.
You know, when I was in his office, it was all smiles, and he was just glad-handing me and seemed to be a very, very nice man.
But I had the camcorder running as we were making the climb up inside the Great Pyramid to the King's Chamber.
And you will hear Zahi, if you listen very carefully, you will hear him saying things to the tourists that were in front of us, like, I am the director of antiquities here.
I'm the director of this whole place.
Move, move!
So listen very carefully and see if you're able to hear that.
Well, I can't reassure you because I'm afraid to do it myself, so I can't help you out.
All I can say is, I guess what you would want to do is get his book and see if that convinces you and give it a try.
My fears range all over the place from, and nobody has ever satisfactorily answered this for me, millions of people around the world die in their sleep.
Well, they have not yet come back to tell us what it is they died of, why they died.
And I've always wondered, how do we know that a bunch of people out of their body didn't suddenly get disconnected and die?
Is calling this line, and I've been disconnected so many times for saying that I can't get through after getting busy signal, busy signal, and then all of a sudden it rings, and then you don't answer.
You go to the supermarket, I said it a minute ago, and you look up and down the aisle, and entire aisles are devoted to various things.
Expectorants to make you hack up whatever is down there.
Many, many, many cold cures that promise varying degrees of relief from 4 to 12 hours, which sort of work, but in my opinion, probably drag colds out.
Aspirin, every manner of just hundreds and hundreds of products that serve you when you get a cold.
And then, of course, there's the suspicious flu season.
Have you ever noticed?
They know exactly when it's coming on TV.
They'll say something like, the flu season is here, and you'll start to see advertisements for things that will relieve symptoms of the flu.
And sure enough, what comes along?
The flu!
And I've had these dark thoughts over the years of, you know, executives, vice presidents perhaps, of flu company medicine, flu medicine company, large companies sort of stealing out in the night, no doubt, in black suits with little vials that they're dumping in reservoirs.
I'm sure that's not really true, but I've thought of it.
Well, Jack, here is strain A. Here's Asian strain A, Jack, and it's your job to go put it in the reservoir this year.
You're the new guy.
And of course, then they coordinate their ads on TV for the flu medicine, and sure enough, everybody gets the flu.
Wildcardline, you're on the air.
Hi.
unidentified
Hello, I'm calling from Nashville, Tennessee.
Well, good.
The comment I would like to make tonight is if you look at the UPC barcode of anything you buy in the store, you can see at the beginning there are two skinny lines.
And in the middle, there are also two skinny lines.
And at the end, also.
And each of those skinny lines represents a number.
I wrote a first book, which was called The Art of Talk, and that was about me and about talk radio and blah, blah, blah, with a lot of photographs, and it was basically an autobiography.
This book, The Quickening, it's not one of those things like I decided to just sit down and write it.
I'm going to write a book, and here's my idea.
unidentified
this one just poured out of me i mean it just Yeah.
Well, as I said earlier on Strange Universe, I got a call actually from Strange Universe earlier today, and they're going to have a weird-person contest.
And so I thought I would get the jump on them and see how I could do in that category, knowing that I have lots of you in that category out there, and I have one contestant on the line right now.
And I pre-screened his call a little bit, so I can tell you it's pretty weird.
I don't think of myself as weird on a moment-to-moment basis, but every so often, if I'm able to step back far enough from the forest to see the trees, I would have to be considered weird, yes.
And so we're going to have to do this tastefully, if possible.
unidentified
All right.
I handle the constant barrage of questions related to a device called the Venus II personal comfort system for men, and also another device called Sibian.
a comparable device made for ladies which in these devices These are orgasmic machines.
And they are not toys.
These are devices that are made to the standards of quality, durability, and safety that are much more closely related to medical or therapeutic or clinical devices.
And they're made to last the lifetime of the owners.
And all day long, I take questions from individuals who, through one means or another, have heard about the devices and their calling either to buy or to ask questions.
I was managing a nightclub in Chicago, and Chicago has some very unusual standards about gentlemen's clubs.
And the club was closed due to a parking.
We had insufficient spaces for cars, if you can believe that that was the real reason.
And simultaneous with that, a local newspaper, a Chicago Reader, published an article about a fellow who was the original engineer inventing the Venus II.
And I called to congratulate him because that particular issue had been picked up from the distribution points faster than any other issue in the 20-year history of that newspaper.
And I had put in about 10 years in medical marketing, once for plastic surgeons, another time for a renowned eye doctor.
And to make a long story short, what I do is not too dissimilar from medical marketing, because as you stated, we have to be professional.
There would be a definite use for that machine in, say, a sperm bank.
Right?
unidentified
That makes sense.
Certainly, we've sold a few, but because of the age that we live in, there's a lot of people who, either, let's say in the case of men, who do not have access to ladies or who think that they don't, which amounts to the same thing, and who are afraid to take care of those matters the way people did 50 years ago or maybe even 15 or 20 years ago or 10 years ago.
And many doctors feel that if those matters Aren't taken care of, that can accelerate the point in time when someone is confronted with that difficulty.
And also, this is, I think, it qualifies both as weird and also as beneficial, but the Venus II can produce and deliver orgasms even for men who are impotent.
No, we take back the power and control unit, and we refund all of their money except for $125.
So if I can do that mathematically, a person could buy one of these units, and if they returned it, basically they spent $125 to keep it for a month and a half.
There's a store in California that rents them for $150 a week.
Listen, on a scale of 10, I think you qualify as roughly an 8.
unidentified
Thank you.
I appreciate that.
And may I just say, so that you're not inundated, and I'm not asking to give a phone number, but can I say what city we're in, so if people want to call information, they could?
I appreciate your call, and you definitely qualify as an 8 out of 10 on the scale of weirdness.
Now, what I am doing this night, because I got a call earlier from Strange Universe today, and I can already see I'm on the right track here, and they're going to have a weird contest, the weird person contest.
And that man definitely qualifies as an entrant.
As a matter of fact, he really should enter the Strange Universe contest.
And I thought, who better qualified to go out and find strange and weird people than me?
And I can assure you, before the night is over, you will definitely agree with me.
You know, one of my favorite guests that you have on your show is David John Oates.
And, you know, most of the time he's been really good, been very accurate in doing the reversals.
However, my friends and I, who are very serious reverse speech people, have to take issue with his findings regarding that Area 51 Caller who allegedly knocked you off the air.
I want to tell you that from my reversals, and I've got the tape, and I'm willing to sit down with you and also take on Mr. Oates to challenge Mr. Oates.
I can tell you that from the reversals, that caller staged, that call was staged.
Art, will you allow Hancock and Baval to reply to Hawass's statements?
I'm sure you agree.
That would only be fair.
Welcome home.
Get well.
Thank you.
Yes, of course I would allow Hancock and Baval on to counter the statements made by Zahi Hawas.
Of course I would.
So if anybody out there wants to contact them and let them know that I have issued an invitation for them to respond, they're more than welcome to come on the air.
On my weird person line, you are on the air.
Good morning.
unidentified
Good morning, Arkbel.
As you know, I've pre-talked to you.
I have an extremely rare RH factor, which is RH equal, and I have documents to prove this.
That I don't know, but I do know that the human genome has been completely mapped back in the 1950s, and I have the name of a doctor and some phone numbers that actually cloned a human in the early 1970s.
Yeah, is there anything otherwise different about you?
Do you have any strange powers?
Can you see through walls?
unidentified
Well, I have been known on occasion to walk, be passing people on the sidewalk, and they would look toward me, and I would answer their question, and they'd kind of look at me kind of dumbfounded.
it may be there's something in your blood that could be all of humanity more possible but you know the thing of it is we Do you remember a movie back, I mean, a television series back in the, say, early 70s, late 60s, maybe even mid-70s, regarding a person that had an extremely rare blood type that government agents were chasing this person all over the place and he would donate blood to the body.
And he would donate blood to cure people and stuff like that.
Yes.
That is basically the scenario behind the mapping of the Human Genome Project.
And the human genome has been completely mapped as, you know, like I say, in the 50s.
And the story behind the human clone that was actually cloned successfully in 1975, the doctor that cloned this individual, it was naturally sponsored by the military for military purposes.
And the military gave orders to this doctor to do away with this clone because the clone refused to kill a dog.
And he said, what would a fish think if you plucked that fish out of the water and he looked around at the world above the water, which he had never seen before, and you threw him back in and he was talking to his friends down there, trying to tell them what had happened.
unidentified
Exactly.
So these creatures then could do the equivalent to us.
They could possibly read our thoughts, get inside us maybe in ways that we can't even imagine.
Now, if you link that idea together with something else that I remember Whitley Streeber mentioning in his book, Communion, that the aliens seem to, I believe he said this or it was someone along the same lines, that they collect souls.
Okay, well, if you take those two things together, then the aliens could be interdimensional creatures, which is what the first, the very unusual call you got, they could be demons.
I mean, that could be another way of describing what religion has put a label on that people seem to object to because of all the dogma and worse yet, sir?
But it puts the idea of demons in even Christianity.
Angels, good aliens versus bad aliens.
If we think of it in terms of angels, it seems actually, I mean, I hate to say it, but it seems to be a lot more acceptable and palatable than calling them demons or angels, because after all, we think of a demon as being a Satan creature with red skin and a tail.
You know, we have a cartoon concept that we put onto something, but if we put it in the context of these could be interdimensional creatures that may have an agenda, and if they have some type of fascination or lust for human souls, then it could put, you know, the whole thing, the old Christianity idea in a different perspective.
I just got back to the country, so I haven't seen it.
unidentified
There is an interesting article in there, and some scientists were doing tests on rats, and they found out that nitrates and nitrite compounds both in rats and humans are first line at defense against bacteria like E. coli, bacteria, and salmonella.
So that may explain why a lot of people are getting sick for cutting down.
A lot of people are not having enough nitrates in their bodies.
As a matter of interest, how do you get these toenails?
I mean, it's not something you can ask people for.
unidentified
Well, in fact, I do ask for them, and on occasion, if I notice someone is clipping their toenails, I'll wait politely until they're finished and then collect them when they leave.
do you sometimes have to do so covertly in other words well i'm i have i have been kind of proud of the don't know question so i don't mind if someone sees me and i'm not afraid to talk to him about it how many uh...
Well, how are you able to devote so much time to the faces of death 27 times, collecting toenails, following ants?
I mean, these are time-consuming things.
unidentified
Yes, it is.
As a matter of fact, I do sacrifice a lot of sleep.
Of course, I do listen to your show often, so that takes a lot of my time, and it gives me a chance also to engage in these activities because I have affordable radio and headphones and such.
Well, because earlier in the day, I got a call from Strange Universe, you know, the TV show.
And they wanted me to be a judge.
They're going to have a weird person contest, and I've been invited to be one of five judges, and I thought, well, I have a program.
I have weird people.
Maybe even more than the average.
And so I thought I would open a line for weird people, and I am so far not disappointed.
Now, the caller just before the top of this last hour definitely was a nine on a scale of 10.
I mean, we're talking about a man who watched Faces of Death 27 times and finds it erotic.
We're talking about a man who collects toenails.
He had an entire coffee can full of toenails.
Some of them from famous people.
In fact, some of them even labeled as Madonna's toenails.
And here, too, is a man who followed an ant on his hands and knees for five hours until it fooled him by going down a storm drain.
I'm giving him a good nine out of ten.
Then there was an earlier fellow who has invented and possibly patented, I forgot to ask about that, two orgasm machines.
One for men, one for women.
Here's somebody faxing art.
Tell your caller, I will sell my toenails for 20 cents each.
I'm broke.
Signed, Tom.
And this, I guess, on a more serious note, Dale from Atlanta, Georgia, R just heard on ABC News, thousands of seabirds found dead in Alaska due to starvation.
El Nino is what's being blamed.
The quickening.
Oh, and that reminds me, he says the quickening continues.
As a matter of fact, I think CNN did something on this recently.
Paris, London, any other major European capital that you could name, save perhaps the former Eastern Bloc countries.
Their society is very, their civilization much, much, much older than us or any of our cities.
And yet, their cities are kept well.
Their infrastructure is clean and efficient and safe.
When you walk around their streets, you are generally safe.
Now, I would not necessarily say that about Cairo.
I'm talking more about the northerly European cities.
Very old.
Very safe, very clean.
And here we are, very new, and our infrastructure is falling apart.
Our bridges are a mess.
Many of our inner cities are total disasters.
Washington, D.C., our nation's capital, certainly is one of those.
You look at the monuments that are maintained, and they're very pretty.
But outside of that, Washington, D.C. is basically surrounded by basically a ghetto.
There are certainly nice areas of Washington, but there are a lot of not-so-nice areas.
And you've just got to wonder why that is.
And it's not confined to Washington, D.C. That was the example, I think, that CNN or TBS used.
I forget which it was.
TBS, maybe.
But any major U.S. inner city has a lot of areas that, frankly, a lot of Americans would be ashamed of when they go and look at the European capitals that are much older.
Well, the way I figure it, it's more I get myself into a like a meditation state where I just concentrate on what I'm doing or either that or my feelings are enraged and it just kind of flows through me.
You said you asked me a question and didn't get a straight answer.
What was it?
unidentified
Well, what it was, was a couple years back, I was living in a small town in southern Colorado and a preacher friend of mine, I wasn't too old anyway, he took a vacation out to Lake Powell and was using, he was on one of those ferry boat rides and was using high-speed photography just to take, you know, a picture of the scenery and da-da-da-da-da.
And just took a picture in the afternoon time, and he got home and developed it, and all of a sudden there was this craft right in the middle of it that was just splitting the wind in two, and he could see like four huge jets coming out of the back of it.
And in the meantime, in those two or three days, he gave me a picture, a fairly good-sized picture of this craft.
And nobody, as far as I know, it's the last one remaining.
And it is just awesome.
I mean, just, I mean, there's no way it's a fluke.
There's no way that it's a fake.
And it's fact.
I mean, it's splitting the air in two.
And it's just incredible, incredible.
And I've been sitting on it for about five years now.
And whoever doesn't know what I'm talking about, as far as what I understand is, is this craft is if, let's say, Russia were to send up an ICBM at us, right?
That we'd have something so fast to travel over to Russia or wherever and knock out this ballistic missile on their own soil.
do you have any idea whether the rocks Well, that's what my mother was worried about, so she called the doctor, and the doctor said not to worry that they would pass right through, which I don't remember happening.
unidentified
But another thing that I did is I took a stick and I started digging a hole in my knee.
And I got to the bone.
I would take a kind of a pointy stick and I would start digging a...
Well, as you can see, I'm doing weird tonight, and I'm definitely not disappointed.
We've had some real winners thus far.
What do you folks think, Tony?
Anyway, it continues.
If you think you qualify as an exceptionally weird person for one reason or another, I have my weird person line open since I'm going to be an official judge.
In a contest of this sort, I thought I might prepare.
And there probably is no way to prepare for something like this.
So anyway, that's what we're doing, for whatever that's worth.
unidentified
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Now we take you back to the night of October 21st, 1997 on Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
well there is a seemingly however my behavior would be taken in the right but in well abby normal uh...
because it is the only way we can I mean, what's normal?
The only way you can suggest that something is normal is by averages.
In other words, that, say, 9 out of 10 people would say you're neurotic or strange.
And so by that measure, I suppose we could say you are, according to the norm, neurotic.
That doesn't necessarily make you so, but there's a good chance you are.
unidentified
there's a psychiatrist that's dead now named R.D. Lange who spoke to this whole thing and he said the people that go around the way they do in everyday society robotic like dead this is
actually more abnormal than the so-called neurotic in other words the way people pass each other by in everyday society and Yeah, I think that's a good question.
unidentified
Well, see, we're tribal people in a sense, and the way society has been structured, matter of fact, the social nature of us is not social in the natural, intimate sense of the word.
Well, I wonder when they put you in and then did your examination and tried to determine if you were sane or not, what a psychiatrist would have to say about you?
unidentified
I think he'd probably be under the old structure which, you know, tried to put dysfunctional, make people functional and put them back in a dysfunctional society, which is impossible.
That seems to be the psychiatrist's way of thinking, to put people back into a dysfunctional society, so-called functional, which I don't think you can do.
See, in New York or Los Angeles, you would not actually be thought of as particularly strange.
or at the you know as somebody who stands out because you're going around asking people this question but i would imagine in king of prussia well well they probably think of u_s_ So it's one and the other.
unidentified
In other words, it's two of the most opposite things you can have, like a natural paradigm combined with the biggest mall, one of the biggest malls in the country.
What is the most interesting answer you ever got to your question?
unidentified
Basically, I guess it runs along the lines of some of the same things that people say that, you know, just the fact that we have arms and legs here and are standing up is like a miracle in itself.
I did, but the problem was the good father's contact at the Vatican was at that time in South America preparing for the Pope, because you remember the Pope was going to South America.
And so his contact was not in place, and we didn't get to do it.
unidentified
Okay, well, I just had one little comment about the Roswell incident.
Yes.
Well, something I've never heard brought up.
It seems to me it can only be one of two ways.
One, something actually crashed that was totally unknown, and they have it.
Or two, they're putting people so incompetent in charge of our nuclear weapons, I think that's scarier than the first.
I'd like to talk about something about me being weird, plus I'd like to end it with talking about these scientists inventing or having these clones on these torsos.
You find money, change, small change, pennies even, and put it in your right shoe.
And then within a day or two, money will come to you through some unexpected way.
Somebody will hand you money, bank error in your favor, whatever.
You will make money.
I've always had a thing about pennies, and I always, always, always pick them up.
Very important to me.
I feel as though if I ever leave a penny, I know this is, you know, very superstitious, but if I ever leave a penny, I think that I will have terrible financial trouble.
Since Ed Dames has been in the government since the time he's left, the government's got new and more advanced remote viewers, and they're so advanced that the government dispatched them out to Phoenix on the day they knew that Ed Dames and associates would be remote viewing to find out what the lights were.
And these new government advanced remote viewers were able to project images of industrial infrared lasers intersecting each other into the minds of Ed Dames and his associates to cause him and to break the belief barrier and cause him to believe that that's what caused the lights.
So you're telling me that Ed Dames was remotely influenced?
unidentified
He was remotely programmed, and I've got all the documents here.
I can explain who did it and how, and I can even tell you something about Bill Clinton visiting South America and how he visited those military families down there.
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Is there anything unusual now in your adult life that you can ascribe to?
unidentified
You know, after I read Striever's books and stuff, and I tried to think of any sort of a weird, you know, missing time type of thing or anything like that.
I mean, if we're talking about your average Elmer's Glue bottle.
unidentified
Okay, well, I don't know.
I think like from like a because actually the first time you really come in contact with it is like when you're like in first grade or second grade, right?
While you were away, there was an item that made the national news here in Canada on the other CBC network about two amateur inventors in, it was either Rockland, Quebec or Rock Island, Quebec, who claimed that they came up with a device that attaches onto a conventional car engine and produces no emissions.
They claimed they had a Toyota or something running in a garage for 24 hours with emissions equipment hooked up to it, and that it gave off no emissions.
If this is true, this is something that's a win-win for environmentalists and oil companies.
that's the norm actually i have now people who eat glue swallow rocks collect toenails that's right That toenail thing there, that was a real kick in me.
Can you imagine an entire coffee can full of toenails?
unidentified
I just wonder if that might not be a pollution problem in relationship to releasing mass amounts of athlete's foot into the atmosphere.
Either you feel that your being is contained within a physical reality, which is literally the eye in the pyramid, which is probably what you were when you went off to Egypt, right?
So, you know, the sarcophagus figures into this thing because, you see, the pyramid was an initiation, an initiation place to show people that, to transcend from becoming the consciousness, the being trapped with inside physical reality, to get them to more or less die.
And when they died, not literally, but figuratively.
And when they died, they realized that all of physical reality is contained within consciousness.
And when I go past a car, as an example, when I'm driving, let's say up to Santa Barbara, when I used to do that, no, because I live in the Oregon coast at this moment.
But anyway, what I do is I get up near a car and they always pull back because I'm thinking that they're thinking that I am going faster than them.
And the truth of the matter is I'm not.
And what they do is they back off their throttle and I go right past them.
So over the years, I had tried to come up with some means to find a way to build a redundancy system for those who are totally pacemaker dependent, such as myself.
And I finally was able to do this in 1983.
I had the system implanted, and since that time, the system has kept me alive in one event when two pacemakers malfunctioned.
And they malfunctioned in such a manner they were firing intermittently to keep the heart going.
So the point being is that I have just had my system rejuvenated, replaced in my state for the third time, except that this second time, or third time on the system, the physicians refused to go ahead because they couldn't understand why you would need more than one pacemaker.
So your idea, what you've done is to put two pacemakers in?
unidentified
This is correct.
I used off-the-shelf hardware art, and we put in one pacemaker that runs a steady rate.
It's called VVI, runs at, let's say, 80 beats.
That's the primary power source.
The secondary backup unit is set to kick in at 45.
If the main pacemaker or the primary unit malfunctions or the lead should go bad, and it drops down below once it hits 44, the backup unit comes on and kicks in.
It will keep me alive long enough to get the main source replaced.
Well, how did you get them to implant it into you?
unidentified
I had one heck of a time.
You cannot imagine talking to physicians as an aerospace type is like talking to a brick wall.
I had a very devil of a time getting this thing in.
Right now, I've got the secondary backup as I'm looking at a possible failure on the leads in the near future, and I just came out of the hospital where they refused to replace the second backup unit.
So it seems incredible that it is so difficult to get the medical profession to realize that it's not a medical necessity, as they say, having two pulse generators.
Okay, well, I wouldn't consider that weird, though.
I would consider that to be a medical breakthrough.
In other words, here is a man who has designed a backup that once the heart rate, which is supposed to be maintained at 80, drops to 40, the backup automatically kicks in, giving the doctors time to get another pacemaker in.
Please listen on the air there near our nation's capital.
Yes, the answer is yes.
And it occurred when I laid in the sarcophagus.
There is actually a photograph of me laying in there.
And let's see, how do I describe to you what I felt?
I spoke words when I was lying in the sarcophagus, and there was a resonance that I did not just hear, but I felt in every part of my being.
I'm going to describe this the best way I can.
I guess I've been waiting for somebody to ask that question.
In every bone, in every fiber of my being, I felt a resonance occurring.
As I simply spoke, I heard the resonance, but more than hearing it, I felt it.
Now, I don't know if this properly describes it, and I really, I just can't put the right words together to exactly describe to you what I felt.
A deep, all-consuming resonance that I could feel in every fiber of my being.
And that's the only way I can think of to describe it.
And I have never in my life felt anything like that before.
Now, it didn't lead to any out-of-body anything.
However, given, for example, an entire night to go up there in the dark with nobody else present and to be able to lie in that sarcophagus, I can imagine that much more would occur.
So I've done the best I can.
That's what I felt.
It didn't take me to any strange place.
I didn't have an out-of-body experience or anything like that.
But I did absolutely feel a resonance that was everywhere.
And that's insufficient.
I'm sorry, I can't do better than that, but that's the best answer I can give.
number two no we were not talking about only in passing other a couple of guys who claim to have something real hot up in canada and i said I got it off.
You've got it off now.
It's the old 100-mile-per-gallon carburetor story, you know, that's locked up somewhere in an oil company's shelf.
unidentified
There's a bunch of designs.
There's like eight or ten designs for that.
It's a vapor carburetor or a hundred mile carburetor.
But I got one that's running on an engine, if you'd like to see it.