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Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell - Weird Person Line - Open Lines

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	Welcome to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
	Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from October 21st, 1997.
	From the high desert and the great American Southwest, I bid you all good evening or good morning as the case may be and welcome to yet another edition.
	The second since I've returned of Coast to Coast AM live talk radio throughout the night time.
	Largest live overnight talk show in America by country mile.
	Stretching from the Tahitian and Hawaiian Islands in the West, all the way East to the Caribbean, the U.S.
	Virgin Islands, and more, South into South America, North to the Poland.
	Worldwide on the Internet, this is Coast to Coast AM.
	Top of the morning, everybody!
	We are going to have open lines again tonight.
	Now, tomorrow night... Tomorrow night, let me tell you what I'm gonna do.
	I got a very, very interesting piece of email, and I have booked a guest based on it.
	And I'll read you part of it now.
	I'm a ham radio operator, and he gives me his call, and a former submarine communications officer.
	And I thought you might be interested in hearing some of the rather frightening things that occurred with military radio in the late 1980s.
	For example, a near complete failure of the low frequency radio systems used to communicate with SSBN subs that brought the world to the brink of nuclear war.
	This event, and others, were the primary reason why I left the military service, as the potential for disaster became very clear to me.
	Are you aware, Art, there is a second Russian Mir space station in Ork?
	The station was in orbit as early as 1985, its whereabouts in space carefully tracked by the US government, As it was dedicated to strictly military purposes.
	I would be willing to speak on your show provided we could protect my identity.
	I am still bound by the top secret SCI crypto clearances that I held while in the military.
	I will also be happy to establish my bona fide record to your satisfaction to prove that I'm not some kind of nut.
	While not active in the military, nor any other government, uh, anti-government movement, I can tell you, I am highly suspect of many things the government is telling us.
	With regard to communications and space.
	Please contact me if you're interested.
	He gives his name.
	So, I did that and, uh, he appears to be everything he says he is.
	It should be.
	A rather interesting interview.
	That is a submarine communications officer.
	Tomorrow night.
	And I'll tell you more about tonight in a moment.
	Yesterday I welcomed some radio stations to the network.
	Well, I only got about halfway through the list.
	I didn't see the rest of the list.
	Yesterday we welcomed KBVI in Boulder, Colorado.
	WTIC in Hartford, Connecticut.
	WRKO in Boston, Mass.
	WPRO in East Providence, Rhode Island.
	WREL in Lexington, Virginia.
	WBLJ in Dalton, Georgia.
	But somehow I forgot to welcome KMAJ in Topeka, Kansas.
	KTBRFM in Coos Bay, Oregon.
	KFARAM in Fairbanks, Alaska, now carrying more of the program.
	KSCO in Santa Cruz, California.
	KSVP in Artesia, New Mexico.
	WSGW-AM in Saginaw, Michigan.
	KSMTFM in Breckenridge, Colorado.
	KRKMFM in Kremling, Colorado.
	And KRKY in Granby, Colorado.
	So, as you can see, while I was gone, the network was busily acquiring new affiliates, and who knows how many millions of people these stations alone cover.
	But that's a rather impressive gain, I would say, particularly for somebody who was off cruising around in the Mediterranean.
	Now, I have a complaint that I want to make at the top of the show.
	We can go to the moon, As we discussed on yesterday's program, we can apparently soon grow headless human bodies in order to harvest organs, clones as it were, from you that could be grown to give you a liver or a heart or lungs.
	In other words, torsos only, without a head, without a brain.
	This is amazing science!
	Even a little scary as far as I'm concerned and perhaps ethically bent.
	We can do things the mind can barely grasp and we're not prepared to deal with ethically.
	And we still can't cure the common cold.
	Now what is wrong with that picture?
	My answer is plenty.
	Plenty wrong with that picture.
	And I, of course, have a cold.
	So it brought it to mind.
	I mean, here we do these incredible, astounding things.
	We can't cure the common cold.
	Something's wrong with that picture.
	I was contacted earlier today by Strange Universe.
	We've got a pretty good relationship and over the, you know, some period of time we have done a lot together and they solicited my help in something they've got coming up called the strange or weird person contest.
	They're trying to find the weirdest person in the world.
	Figures they'd come to me, right?
	and I'm going to be a judge they want me to be a judge so they are going to collect information and have a contest to find the weirdest person in the world and they're going to give shower upon this person prizes like bringing them to Los Angeles that sort of thing treating them to this and that you know it's gonna be a big contest and I thought Who better to find a weird person than me?
	I've got them stacked up like cordwood out there.
	Now, I thought tonight I would steal their idea and try to find the weirdest person in the world myself.
	So I'm going to open a weird person line.
	If you think you're really, really weird, And I'm leaving the category very open because there's plenty of weird people out there.
	But if you think you fit into that category and you could be a winner, then you're going to want to call my weird person line tonight at area code seven.
	So I'm going to be a judge, by the way.
	And I thought this might help me warm up.
	And you're going to, you know, obviously have to explain to us all how weird you really are and why you would deserve a prize.
	I'm not giving a prize.
	However, if you're really weird, then you can obviously enter the weird person contest that Strange Universe is about to have.
	Anyway, I thought it would be fun.
	Otherwise, in the news, let me see the IRS Is due to be overhauled.
	They say.
	They have tried this many times.
	The President now suddenly supporting it after a lot of Democrats decided they would.
	Though we shall see.
	President Clinton is poised to announce a new plan for the climate.
	For global warming.
	And I was watching the coverage of this earlier this night on CNN.
	And I thought it rather interesting that as they presented both arguments with regard to global warming, is it real?
	Is it just the figment of somebody's political agenda-driven imagination?
	Which is it?
	You know, both sides admitted there is a climate change underway.
	Even those who think that global warming is bunk Are now admitting, well, yes, there does seem to be a climate change underway.
	And I've been saying this, as you well know, for some time.
	Now, one side, of course, wants to suggest it has nothing to do with global warming, that it's all a bunch of bunk.
	But they're admitting there is a climate change underway.
	The other side, of course, knows there's a climate change as well underway, but blames it on greenhouse emissions.
	You know, cars, the burning of fossil fuels, that kind of thing.
	But I just found it interesting that both sides now seem to agree a climate change is definitely underway.
	There is no question about it.
	None.
	A big breakthrough, they say, in electric automobiles.
	Still, though, years away.
	You know, so you can go out and buy them.
	And my guess would be the big breakthrough in electric automobiles, and the general availability to most of you out there, is going to occur after or as we approach the actual finite limit of oil in the ground, fossil fuels in the ground.
	In other words, they are going to get an electric car just in the nick of time, and not one minute sooner.
	And I was talking to a good friend of mine up in the Bay Area about this the other day, and we all know that at present rates of usage, which by the way are going to actually increase, We only have 40 or 45 years of oil left in the ground.
	Oil that we can pull from the ground and use to drive our cars and engines and lubricate this and that.
	40 to 45 years.
	And he said, you know, a good subject for your show, One Night Art, might be to discuss what people think would happen In 40 or 45 years, if we do not find a replacement for fossil fuel.
	And it is a very good question, isn't it?
	Airplanes would stop flying.
	Cars would stop driving.
	Commerce would come to a grinding halt.
	What do you think would happen to society?
	We would take a giant step backward.
	Wouldn't we?
	Could we?
	Do you think that there would be wars over the last remaining oil?
	Because as the reserves dry up, even those countries that produce in bulk now are going to use that oil selfishly, domestically.
	They're not going to sell it.
	Things are going to get very tight very quickly.
	And then I saw the business on the electric cars tonight and I thought, hmm.
	I bet they come up with those, in bulk, at reasonable, affordable rates, just before we run out of oil.
	Which begs the question, of course, could they really be doing it right now?
	And I would almost lay money on the answer that you bet they can.
	Well, why aren't they?
	Well, that's not hard to imagine.
	It's because there's a lot of big money involved in oil.
	And they're going to pull every single dollar out of oil they can until it's just about gone.
	And then there's going to be a revolutionary announcement.
	That's what I think.
	Anyway, I've got something I want to play for you in a moment.
	I promised I would dub down a couple of audio segments from Egypt, and I have done that.
	You are about to hear, in a moment, the voice of Zahi Hawass, and you are about to hear the two faces of Zahi Hawass, coming up in a moment.
	Let me tell you what we're going to do right now, alright?
	When I was in Egypt, I first met with Dr. Zahi Hawass.
	Dr. Hawass ...is the Director of Antiquities at Giza.
	In other words, he maintains and is in charge of the research, the archaeology that goes on, the digging, such as it is, around the Sphinx, the Great Pyramids, and all of the associated relics and things at Giza, which is an incredible, incredible place.
	Now, I'm going to let you hear a couple of things.
	It's really a shame, and I only very occasionally wish I had television, because I have video to go with what you're about to hear.
	What I did was dub the following down from my video camcorder.
	So, let me sort of give you an idea of what you're going to hear.
	The first is, yesterday, you may recall, I told you there was a five That I saw one man, one man with a sledgehammer break very precisely in half.
	I mean, it was unbelievable!
	The guy took a sledgehammer and went to work on a five ton piece of granite, pure granite, and split that sucker right in half like he had, you know, like a knife going through butter.
	It was amazing!
	Now, I've got the audio from that, and then Zahi comments afterwards.
	You've got to listen very carefully.
	But here is just a few days ago in Egypt.
	Here's a man going to work on a five-ton piece of granite.
	Listen carefully to the following.
	Oh my gosh!
	Oh my gosh. He's pounding away on that granite.
	I didn't think he was going to do it.
	Oh.
	He's getting ready to split that.
	Then you'll hear Zahi awash.
	That's exactly what they want to show people.
	Wow!
	People always say, how the Egyptians can cut stones.
	Yes.
	That's exactly what they, those are the descendants of the ancient Egyptians.
	And this one, I tell people, if you want to understand how this pyramid was built, come to me.
	And I will show you how it's built.
	This man cut Alright, there was the first segment I wanted to play you.
	in two minutes. How they hold it, we have the same method of the ancient Egyptians to move
	the stones. And it's, you know, we have many things to do.
	Alright, there was the first segment I wanted to play you.
	Now, obviously the video attendant with that audio shows this guy with a sledgehammer
	splitting precisely down the middle a five ton piece of granite.
	One man, five tons, two minutes.
	It was a mind-blower.
	And you should see the video.
	The rock simply parts in the middle, and that's it.
	It was a total mind-blower.
	Now, what I'm going to play for you when we come back from the break is the actual trek that we were making up the of the Great Pyramid.
	And believe me, it's a huffer and a puffer.
	It's really something trying to get up to the top of the Great Pyramid.
	Up to the King's Chamber.
	And I was directly behind Zahi Awas.
	Zahi had no idea my camcorder was running while we were making that trick.
	So, when we come back in a moment, I'm going to play you a little bit of audio from this videotape.
	That will reveal the other side of Zahi Hawass.
	Coming up next... You're listening to Art Bell, somewhere in time, on Premier Radio Networks.
	Tonight, an encore presentation of Costa Costa M from October 21st, 1997.
	This is a production of the Costa Costa Music Festival.
	All right, and it's moving, oh, we're gonna get it We gotta get right back to where we started from.
	Love is good, love can be strong.
	We gotta get right back to where we started from.
	Do you remember that day?
	When you first came my way?
	I said no one can take your place.
	We're gonna try to find the weirdest person in the world tonight.
	I'm best equipped to do that, obviously.
	You know, I was just talking to my wife before I play this next audio clip.
	I was just talking to my wife.
	And I was telling her what I just said about the common cold.
	And she said, She said something very wise.
	She said, have you ever considered how profitable the common cold is?
	She's right!
	Cough syrup.
	Every kind of cold remedy you can imagine.
	Go into the grocery store and look.
	It takes up nearly an entire aisle.
	Cold remedies all over the place.
	Tissue paper.
	I've already gone through about two boxes of tissue paper with this cold.
	By the way, now my wife is catching it as well.
	And so, She's absolutely correct, isn't she?
	Like the oil in the ground, that I think is going to continue to come from the ground until it is no longer profitable to bring it from the ground, and then it'll be time to, you know, do something ecologically more friendly.
	The dollar is driving that, and the dollar is driving the common cold.
	In other words, we probably still have the common cold, because it is incredibly profitable.
	She is exactly right on the money.
	And now, from Pastor Bradley, Dear Art, have you heard about the big fuss that Janet Reno is stirring up with Microsoft?
	Oh yeah, big fine, million bucks a day.
	She's claiming they're violating anti-monopoly laws, wants them to pay a million dollars a day until they cease.
	Could it be another ploy to distract us from other investigations?
	Well, yes, it could, but I rather thought the best way for Microsoft to solve their problem Would be to simply put a copy of Netscape in each new Windows 95 or 96 or whatever it is they're coming out with next, as well as their own browser.
	And that'd be the end of that.
	I would think that people at Netscape would be happy about that.
	And I would think that it would be a good solution.
	People can use whatever they want.
	Well listen, we'll get to this second audio clip in a second.
	Alright.
	Now, what I am going to play for you, you're going to have to listen very carefully, because it was a noisy environment.
	I went up inside the Great Pyramid.
	The Great Pyramid.
	Going up to the King's Chamber, where the sarcophagus is, the one I actually laid down in.
	That's a whole other story.
	But on the way up, it's a very long, hot, difficult trek with a lot of people.
	Zahi Hawass, the director of Antiquities at Giza, was directly ahead of me.
	And I don't think he knew that I had the camcorder running.
	Now, I was huffing and puffing, and you will hear me very much out of breath, along with everybody else that was making the climb.
	But Zahi is directly in front of me.
	And Zahi, when I first met him, of course, was a Extremely cordial.
	Extremely, seemingly open man.
	A very even-tempered man, I might add.
	Very even-tempered.
	You know, when I was in his office, it was all smiles and he was just glad-handing me and seemed to be a very, very nice man.
	But I had the camcorder running as we were making the climb Up inside the Great Pyramid of the King's Chamber.
	And you will hear Zahi, if you listen very carefully, you will hear him saying things to the tourists that were in front of us.
	Like, I am the director of antiquities here!
	I'm the director of this whole place!
	Move!
	Move!
	So, listen very carefully and see if you're able to hear that.
	Uh, it comes now.
	This is, again, as we were climbing, uh, the Great Pyramid.
	Go ahead, please!
	Yes!
	That's smart.
	I'm the director of this fire.
	I am not alone here.
	I am the director of this palace.
	I need everyone to take a side, arrange and go.
	And go.
	Thank you.
	I'm going to go get my stuff.
	Let me go!
	Let go!
	No, no.
	You're not alone.
	Listen to me.
	Listen to me.
	I'm scared.
	You have to get out of my sight.
	I'm the director of this place.
	Everyone has to get out of my sight and go out.
	I want to run inside.
	You're not alone.
	Listen to me.
	Go on.
	Quickly.
	Well, anyway, that was it.
	That was Zahi directly in front of me, and you could hear me huffing and puffing.
	That was a real, um, a very serious climb.
	But as Zahi climbed in front of me, he was getting very annoyed, very annoyed with the people in front of him, so I thought I would play that little audio clip.
	And here is one more.
	This particular clip, um, again with everybody huffing and puffing as we're marching all over the place, is right at the side of the Sphinx.
	At the side of the Sphinx, there is a large hole, which has gone down X number of meters, uh, that Baval and Hancock, in fact, you will hear Zahi mention Baval and Hancock, who think that Zahi is hiding something, and he mentions Baval and Hancock, and, uh, this claim says there's absolutely, absolutely nothing down here.
	So here's that audio clip.
	a slide and a photograph showing people inside the city.
	Then about a few months ago, a year ago, I announced that we're going to open the shop.
	Then Hankook and Buffa just wrote everywhere, don't let him open because he's going to find something and we'll hide it.
	There's nothing there because it has been opened before.
	It is intact.
	And you will not hide it, huh?
	No.
	How?
	How would I hide it?
	And why would I hide it?
	They think maybe you'll sneak it out in the middle of the night, but you won't, would you?
	But why?
	Give me one reason of why, if you discover something, maybe you'll hide it.
	If you discover something here, all your gold is in there.
	What they say doesn't make any sense.
	Why do you hide this?
	Why?
	It will be something to the whole world.
	Yes.
	There is no reason.
	Your purpose is here is to expose it to the world.
	Exactly.
	Yes.
	What do you think might be down there?
	In my opinion?
	Your opinion.
	The mystery has nothing.
	But it's better to tell the people that we hope that something can be discovered.
	Just to give the people hope.
	Could be true.
	The people needs hope.
	But in my opinion, for someone who I studied every piece of sand in this area, I know there is nothing in this except a kerchief.
	This is what we do.
	There is no one single artifact or a piece of sand that has been found in the plateau to prove the existence of land.
	Nothing.
	That's true.
	Of Atlantis.
	All that is covered that you will see from this moment to the end of your trip, it's something that we recover every day.
	All right, well, there you were.
	That was Zahi at the side of the Sphinx, suggesting there had been nothing found, and certainly nothing found to prove the existence of Atlantis.
	And he made reference to Baval and Hancock.
	So I've got many, many more like that, but I will not play them for you now.
	I just wanted to give you a kind of a taste of what the sound was like.
	Um, and of course I have a videotape, and I have video to go with all of this, and it makes a lot more sense when you're able to see the video, and this is the one time I wish this was TV and not radio.
	I've got a lot of very good and interesting video.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Good morning.
	Hello.
	Hello.
	Yes, hello.
	Hello, this is Mike from Houston.
	Hi, Mike.
	Hi.
	Um, I was just curious about the other night when you had, um, the guy on Dreamland about the OBE experience.
	Oh, yes, uh-huh.
	Yeah, I've had that same feeling, but I've never where you get the vibrations and you feel like all this energy when you're about to fall asleep.
	Yes, it is what occurs just prior to an OBE if you let it happen.
	And I'm afraid to let it happen, just like you said.
	Well, that makes two of us.
	I'm still afraid to, even after his reassurances.
	Well, I can't reassure you, because I'm afraid to do it myself, so I can't help you out.
	All I can say is, I guess what you would want to do is get his book, and see if that convinces you, and give it a try.
	My fears range all over the place, and nobody has ever satisfactorily answered this for me.
	Millions of people around the world die in their sleep.
	Well, they have not yet come back to tell us what it is they died of, why they died.
	And I've always wondered, how do we know that a bunch of people out of their body didn't suddenly get disconnected and die?
	That's kind of what I'm afraid of, too.
	So, until I get the answer to that and a couple of other things, I'm not likely to let go.
	And the other thing that's been happening is the talus hum in the ear?
	Yes.
	Is that related?
	No!
	No, no, no, no!
	The Taos Hum is a hum that's coming from the Earth itself.
	It has nothing to do with what you feel prior to an OBE.
	The Taos Hum is coming from underground.
	And I have no idea what it is.
	Do you?
	Underground machinery?
	Perhaps an underground civilization of some kind?
	Perhaps the government digging holes from one place, uh, tunnels from one place to another.
	I have no idea.
	We have, uh, something similar to the Tao's Home in my little valley here.
	What is it?
	Nobody knows.
	On my weird person line, you're on the air.
	Good morning.
	Good morning, Art.
	Hi.
	Hi.
	Um, you know what is really, really, really weird?
	I beg your pardon?
	What's really weird?
	Uh, you, I would imagine.
	Yeah, well, that's secondhand.
	Um, is calling this line, and I've been disconnected so many times for saying that I can't get through.
	After getting busy signal, busy signal, and then all of a sudden, it rings and then you don't answer.
	That's weird.
	No, it isn't.
	That's normal.
	It is.
	That's the way it works for everybody.
	It does?
	Yes.
	Well, I find it weird.
	Okay, well, you're through now.
	What?
	You're through now.
	Yeah, I am.
	Yeah, you're on the air, so... Okay.
	Oh, I am.
	Oh, you know what's wrong with the picture, No Cure for the Coma Cold?
	What?
	Big money.
	Well, that's what my wife just said.
	Yeah, she did.
	She's right.
	They don't care.
	They got the big money.
	They want to, um...
	What are those, called decongestants?
	Oh, look, you go, alright, thank you.
	You go to the supermarket, I said it a minute ago, and you look up and down the aisle, and entire aisles are devoted to various things.
	Expectorants, to make you hack up whatever's down there.
	Many, many, many cold cures that promise varying degrees of relief from 4 to 12 hours.
	Which sort of work, but in my opinion probably drag colds out.
	Aspirin, every manner of just hundreds and hundreds of products that serve you when you get a cold.
	And then of course, there's the suspicious flu season.
	Have you ever noticed they know exactly when it's coming on TV?
	They'll say something like, the flu season is here!
	And you'll start to see advertisements for things that will relieve symptoms of the flu.
	And sure enough, what comes along?
	The flu!
	And I've had these dark thoughts over the years of, you know, executives, vice presidents, perhaps, of flu company medicine, flu medicine company, large companies sort of stealing out in the night, no doubt in black suits with little vials, They're dumping in reservoirs.
	I'm sure that's not really true, but I've thought of it.
	Well, Jack, here's strain A. Here's Asian strain A, Jack, and it's your job to go put it in the reservoir this year.
	You're the new guy.
	And of course then they coordinate their ads on TV for the flu medicine and sure enough everybody gets the flu.
	Wow, Cardline, you're on the air.
	Hi.
	Hello, I'm calling from Nashville, Tennessee.
	Well, good.
	A comment I would like to make tonight is if you look at the UPC barcode off of anything you buy in the store.
	Right.
	You can see at the beginning there are two skinny lines.
	And in the middle, there are also two skinny lines, and at the end, also.
	And each of those skinny lines represents a number, and the number is six.
	Six, six.
	Yeah, I don't know if you've ever heard that or not.
	Number or the beast.
	Yeah, and I've heard that they have technology that, you know, you can put it in your palm of your hand.
	So, it's stated in the Bible somewhere that without the 666, you won't be able to buy or sell.
	That's what it says, yes.
	And so I just thought, you've probably heard that already.
	I probably have, yes.
	But there might be a listener out there who hasn't.
	Well, do you have an implant yet?
	Oh, no.
	Are you going to get one?
	No, not if I can help it.
	Well, you won't be able to help it.
	They'll have to put me under first.
	Well, they will.
	They'll put you under, they'll strap you down, they'll open up your palm, and when you wake up, you'll be chipped.
	Uh-oh.
	That's how it's going to work, you know.
	I hope not.
	All right, sir.
	Take care.
	Thank you for taking my call.
	You're welcome.
	Take care.
	Oh, yes.
	Number O, the Beast.
	East of the Rockies.
	You're on the air.
	Hi.
	Hi.
	Hello.
	This is Ron calling from Michigan.
	All right.
	And I just... Well, number one, I wanted to welcome you back.
	You're probably tired of hearing that by now.
	That's good.
	No, I'm not.
	I was gone long enough.
	It's really good to be back.
	Believe me.
	I'm pretty much new to your show.
	While you were gone I was pretty much hearing the best of what you put out.
	It inspired me to go out and pick up the book, The Quickening.
	My first sitting I went through probably 95 pages and I couldn't put it down.
	Well, it's, you know, I've had a lot of success with the book.
	It is now number four on the New York Times business bestseller list.
	I'm really very happy.
	I'll tell you a little secret about that book.
	What's that?
	I wrote a first book, which was called The Art of Talk, and that was about me and about talk radio and blah, blah, blah, with a lot of photographs, and it was basically an autobiography.
	Okay?
	This book, The Quickening, It's not one of those things like I decided to just sit down and write it.
	You know, I'm going to write a book and here's my idea.
	This one just poured out of me.
	I mean, it just... Well, I keep seeing footnotes everywhere in here and I'm like, this guy put a lot of work in it.
	Yeah, see, that's exactly right.
	And what I did with this book, and here's why I did that.
	Um, for a couple of years now, two or three years, I've been talking about the quickening.
	And people would come back to me when I talk about it, and they'd say, you're full of it.
	The only, there's nothing real to what you're saying.
	Yes, it feels that way, but you know, it's just because there's a lot of mass communication today, and we're hearing about these things more and more, and I would tell people, no, It's absolutely real.
	And so when I sat down to write the book, I felt an obligation to lay out the proof so it would be absolutely undeniable.
	That's why you see all those footnotes.
	Okay, I wanted to make one point and pretty much, you know, leave the air open for someone else.
	Go ahead.
	I read a book by Stephen King when I was a teenager and it just gave me goosebumps.
	And this was a work of fiction.
	Which one?
	The Stand.
	Oh, The Stand!
	I love that book!
	And reading yours in conjunction with, you know, the books I've read.
	The Bible and all that.
	It's like... It's not fiction.
	I know.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Do I know what you're saying?
	I wrote the book.
	Yes, I know what you're saying.
	Of course, it's not fiction.
	I'm going to be doing my one big book signing for The Quickening.
	It's going to be this Saturday.
	10 o'clock, Saturday morning, I hope.
	I will see you there.
	We'll be right back.
	You're listening to Art Bell, somewhat in time.
	Tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from October 21st, 1997.
	Enjoy.
	AM.
	Coast to Coast.
	Your radio network presents Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
	Tonight's program originally aired October 21st, 1997.
	Well, as I said earlier on Strange Universe, I got a call actually from Strange Universe earlier today,
	and they're going to have a weird person contest.
	And so I thought I would get to jump on them and see how I could do in that category, knowing that I have lots of you in that category out there, and I have one contestant on the line right now.
	And I pre-screened his call a little bit, so I can tell you it's pretty weird.
	At any rate, here he is.
	Let's see how weird he really is.
	Hello there.
	Hi.
	Would you consider yourself weird?
	I don't think of myself as weird on a moment-to-moment basis, but every so often, if I'm able to step back far enough from the forest to see the trees, I would have to be considered weird, yes.
	Even though you might not consider yourself weird, is it reasonable that other people would consider you weird?
	Completely and totally reasonable.
	All right, what is it you do?
	This is not what's my line, but I mean...
	On a day-to-day basis, to put it at its weirdest, I take...
	Call us toll-free at 1-800-618-8255.
	...do that is because...
	Oh, now wait a minute.
	We're going to have to be a little bit careful here.
	I'll be... I'll crank it... We're going to have to be a little careful.
	I mean, I'm not Howard Stern.
	I understand.
	You know, I'm open-minded, but I'm not Howard.
	We're professionals.
	We are.
	And so we're going to have to do this tastefully, if possible.
	All right.
	I handle the constant browser of questions related to a device called the Venus 2.
	Personal comfort system for men, and also another device called Sibion.
	The Venus 2.
	Is that correct?
	That's correct.
	The Venus 2 personal comfort system.
	Personal comfort system for men, and?
	And the Sibion, which is a comparable device made for ladies.
	Which, and these devices?
	Both of these devices are engineered from the ground up.
	To produce orgasms for the venus for males, the sibian for females.
	These are orgasmic machines.
	They're not toys.
	These are devices that are made to the standards of quality, durability and safety that are much more closely related to medical or therapeutic or clinical devices.
	The sibian is $1,400.
	$1,400?
	The Sibian is $1,400.
	1,400?
	Well, it can be had for around $1,250, but I'm just...
	Do you discount occasionally?
	We do offer discount offers.
	The Venus II sells for $10.95, but it can be had for around $9.50.
	I'm not trying to hawk them, but it is a very peculiar... When you say $10.95, you mean $1,095?
	Yes.
	And they're made to last a lifetime of the owners.
	And all day long, I take questions from individuals who, through one means or another, have heard about the devices and they're calling to To either to buy or to ask questions.
	Okay, so you manufacture machines that produce orgasms.
	Machines.
	Yes.
	Now, as a matter of absolute curiosity, what got you started in this?
	In this line of particular?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Well, that's a good question.
	I was managing A nightclub in Chicago, and Chicago has some very unusual standards about gentlemen's clubs, and the club was closed due to a parking.
	We had insufficient spaces for cars, if you can believe that that was the real reason.
	Simultaneous with that, a local newspaper, Chicago Reader, published an article about a fellow who was the original engineer inventing the Venus II, and I called to congratulate him because That particular issue had been picked up from the distribution points faster than any other issue in the 20-year history of that newspaper.
	And I had put in about 10 years in medical marketing, once for plastic surgeons, another time for a renowned eye doctor.
	And to make a long story short, what I do is not too dissimilar from medical marketing.
	As you stated, we have to be professional.
	I mean, I can certainly understand that, for example, there would be a definite use for that machine in, say, a sperm bank.
	I'm sorry?
	There would be a definite use for that machine in, say, a sperm bank.
	Right?
	That makes sense.
	We've sold a few, but because of the age that we live in, there's a lot of people who either let's say in the case of men who do not have access
	to ladies or or or who think that they don't which amounts to the same
	thing and and who are afraid to take care of those matters the
	way people did fifty years ago or maybe even fifteen or twenty years ago
	or ten years ago and then of course there's safe sex and aids and all the rest
	of that too and some people feel that
	as men age and it is inevitable that they're going to be confronted with
	prostate problems and many doctors feel that uh... if uh...
	if those matters are taken care of that can accelerate the point in time when someone is confronted with that
	difficulty so so Also, I think it qualifies both as weird and also
	uh... as beneficial but the venus too can that produce and deliver orgasms even for
	men who are impotent while in other words it functions it doesn't have to be
	operating on something that's rigid
	what made you decide to call it the venus to now venus is associated with
	love i suppose it was already called the venus to what i can't afford i
	didn't invent this but i did have the personal comfort system for men
	because i as you were describing it uh... how about i i thought of uh...
	while i was just sitting here thinking during the news i thought of the
	org orgasm attic Well, Orgasmatron is one of the names that we have.
	Orgasmatron?
	Copyrighted.
	Oh, copyrighted yet, huh?
	Oh, sure.
	Are these large machines, physically?
	Venus 2 comes in its own carrying case that's about the size of a large briefcase.
	Not that big then.
	However, we're coming out with a next generation unit in the spring, and it would fit in a shoebox.
	A shoebox.
	Wow.
	Now, how are these items marketed?
	I mean, you don't go door-to-door and, you know, like the vacuum cleaner salesman, you know.
	Yes, hi, ma'am.
	I want to show you our... We put reasonably discreet ads in some of the better adult magazines, and also occasionally I'll do a press release, and we generate interviews.
	How's the market?
	I mean, are sales brisk?
	They're very consistent.
	I would say that Each week we sell between 15 and 25 units.
	Wow.
	And we're so confident about the quality of the product and the effectiveness of the product that they're sold on the basis of a 45 day trial period.
	Really?
	So if for any reason someone buys one of these and they decide this isn't worth it or this isn't what I had in mind or it's not for me... Then you give the money back?
	We do.
	You do?
	We do not take any part of the unit back that comes into physical contact.
	Well, see, I was about to ask for that.
	We take back the power and control unit, and we refund all of their money except for $125.
	So if I can do that mathematically, a person could buy one of these units, and if they returned it, basically they spent $125 to keep it for a month and a half.
	There's a store in California that rents them for $150 a week.
	Rents them?
	Uh-huh.
	You buy your own attachment, and you're connected to it by a pneumatic hose.
	I think I understand.
	How do your friends and family react when you explain the kind of business you're in?
	My family is mortified.
	You're mortified?
	Yes.
	My friends know me, and it's not a problem of any kind, but my family was... A little mortified?
	Well, pretty much so.
	Well, everybody has their own family.
	Yeah, you're definitely in a unique business.
	No question about it.
	Do you see a big future for your product?
	Absolutely.
	One of the first press releases I did, we got somehow the Bloomberg Financial Wire picked it up.
	And I would say we got at least 400 calls from stockbrokers, commodity brokers, bankers, insurance men.
	And I predict that we will take the company public on the Internet.
	I think it'll cook.
	I know that's worked for microbreweries, for example.
	And also, the next generation, Venus II, will be more powerful.
	The maximum speed will be higher, the minimum speed will be lower.
	It's so quiet that we have to put an on-off switch, I mean an on-off light on it, so that it's not accidentally left on all night.
	And the new price will be in the $500 range.
	It's probably a lot quieter than its user.
	Yes, well, we haven't solved that problem yet.
	And there's another problem... Welcome!
	I am here to tell you about the Reach Out Wireless Link Up and Lifeline program.
	Under congressional mandate, the Federal Universal Service Fund supports the Lifeline and Link Up program.
	These programs provide... Does it offer its user a cigarette?
	No, but that would be a very good accessory.
	All right.
	Listen, on a scale of 10, I think you qualify as roughly an 8.
	Thank you.
	I appreciate that.
	And may I just say, so that you're not inundated, and I'm not asking to give a phone number, but can I say what city we're in, so if people want to call information, they could?
	Yeah, sure.
	I've got to give you that.
	Sure.
	What city are you in?
	The name of the company is Abco Research, ABCO.
	And we're in Monticello, Illinois.
	All right.
	I appreciate your call, and you definitely qualify as an 8 out of 10 on the scale of weirdness.
	Now, what I am doing this night, because I got a call earlier from Strange Universe today, and I can already see I'm on the right track here, and they're going to have a weird contest, a weird person contest.
	And that man definitely qualifies As an entrant.
	As a matter of fact, he really should enter the Strange Universe Contest.
	But I thought, who better qualified to go out and find strange and weird people than me?
	And I can assure you, before the night is over, you will definitely agree with me.
	I do like the Orgasmatron as a name.
	The world is changing before our very eyes.
	Well, to the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Yeah, hi Art.
	This is Ken in Las Vegas.
	Hi, Ken.
	Welcome back.
	Thank you.
	You know, one of my favorite guests that you have on your show is David John Oates.
	Uh-huh.
	And, you know, most of the time he's been really good, been very accurate in doing the reversals.
	However, my friends and I, who are very serious reverse speech people... Yes.
	I have to take issue with his findings regarding that Area 51 caller who allegedly knocked you off the air.
	Yes.
	I want to tell you that from my reversals, and I got the tape, and I'm willing to sit down with you and also take on Mr. Oates, to challenge Mr. Oates.
	I can tell you that from the reversals, that caller staged.
	That caller staged.
	Instead, Mr. Oates, when he said, uh... Well, what reversal do you have that would prove that?
	Well, he says, uh... Well, when he says, what we're talking about is aliens, Arthur.
	He said, in reverse, he said, there are no aliens.
	I want to get through.
	He said things like, instead of feel the heat, he said, heal the feet.
	He said stuff, there are lives.
	He said, I'm serving it on a ham hock.
	That's me bull-blanking it.
	And I caught some reversals on you.
	A lot of people out there, a lot of serious-minded people, world-class people could confirm it.
	Listen, I'm open.
	Here's what you ought to do.
	Send me, if you're unable to play them in quality as David can on the phone, then send me a tape of the reversals and I'll play them on the air.
	All right, well, I already put it on a bulletin board, on the FIDO, the RyanNet, and absolutely temporary, and I put my findings on the bulletin board.
	Well, better yet, though, not because only a very small percentage of people can get up there.
	If you really want it heard, send it to me, and I'll play it on the air.
	Okay, if you want, but, well, you've got the tape yourself.
	I mean, you've got the tape.
	I could tell you what I heard from it.
	Well, no, I want to hear the reversals.
	Okay.
	So what do you want me to do?
	Send the reversals to me.
	On tape.
	It's not such a good idea grabbing them off real audio because of the quality.
	You know, so to broadcast it, send it to me on a tape and I'll broadcast it.
	Okay.
	I want to know what Mr. Oates' response is going to be.
	How about if I and Mr. Oates together, Well, look, again, send me the reversals.
	If they're clear, and you really want to get David on and challenge him, we can even do that.
	But I've got to hear them first.
	OK.
	All right?
	Will do.
	All right.
	I'll look for them.
	and you know me, I'm willing to do just about anything.
	Alright, back we are now.
	I am taking calls from people who are weird.
	Now, you have to really qualify as weird, much like that last guy did.
	Can you imagine that?
	As a living, building machines that produce orgasms?
	Machines?
	Ah, welcome to the brave new world.
	On my international line, you're on the air.
	Good morning.
	Good morning, Mr. Bell, and welcome back.
	Well, thank you.
	Hold on a minute.
	Hold on just a sec.
	Let me try and get rid of this echo.
	We've got some echo on there.
	Let's see if that gets rid of it.
	Okay, I think that's a little bit better.
	Where are you located?
	I'm calling from Quebec City, Canada.
	Quebec, Canada.
	All right.
	Capital of separatism, like you said once.
	Yes.
	I always like to speak about time travel because it really interests me a lot, okay?
	Me too.
	Okay, you had a caller on once you opened the The time, uh, the timeline?
	Yes.
	I was wondering.
	Uh, you had one, you said he was watching, uh, the inventor of the, uh, time machine.
	You remember that one?
	I do, yes I do.
	Okay.
	That one sounded pretty credible to me.
	The other one that sounded pretty credible is that pilot, who claims that he went back in 1932 to Operation, uh, Southern Cross.
	Yes.
	I don't even know if that operation actually exists.
	No, I don't either.
	Okay.
	But he did sound good, I agree.
	Okay, and maybe another timeline some night before Christmas?
	Oh, sure!
	Okay, and one last thing.
	What is the alternate states of America?
	I wondered.
	It sounds to me like another dimension or another timeline.
	What do you think?
	The alternate states of America?
	Yeah.
	No, but if there is another timeline and, you know, a parallel Dimensional Universe, then it's entirely possible, but I doubt they would call themselves the alternate states of America.
	They would call themselves the United States of America, but it might be a very different U.S.
	Okay, talk to you later.
	Thank you very much.
	Alright, take care.
	In other words, the name alternate states of America would clearly imply they understood they were an alternate to something else, to us.
	And since they wouldn't have that knowledge, they wouldn't be the alternate states.
	They would just be the US, like we are here.
	But the structure might be entirely different.
	For example, their Alan Greenspan might like the market going up and up and up.
	On my weird person line, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	How you doing, Art?
	I'm doing fine.
	I've been classified as being a weird guy.
	I'll go by the name Gazzuki.
	Gazzuki?
	Gazzuki.
	Gazzuki.
	Why and in what way are you weird?
	Well, I come up with all kinds of strange ideas.
	One of them is a parasail city supported by several mile wide, a few miles long parasails that would support an ultralight city.
	An ultralight city?
	I just got done doing 400 upside-down push-ups, so I'm rather tired.
	You can hear my breath.
	400?
	Yeah, well, I spread them out through the day.
	Now, I know what an ultralight is, but how would you have an ultralight city?
	You'd simply strap a sail together until you had a very, very, very, very big parasail in the middle.
	You'd put the main weight, which would be the city.
	And then to go on from there, and also you could position these ultralight cities to get rid of pollution.
	Because they would create their own pressure zones, and in stagnant pollution ridden cities, they would kind of, you know, bring a little wind to the city.
	Well, they would require... Well, I guess they would, wouldn't they?
	In other words, they'd be under power.
	Exactly.
	And also I... So you could, for example, fly them over Los Angeles on a smoggy day and blow the smog away.
	That's right.
	Exactly right.
	I've also seen nine UFOs, four of which, in my opinion, were driven by something other than human.
	I've invented things like the spider leg vehicle.
	Arms and legs fit into independent suspension slash suit.
	In other words, you put the vehicle on like a space suit.
	And all your arms and your legs, they fit into the independent axles, which have tires on each end.
	All right.
	Well, I think I've got the picture, and I'm giving you a 5 out of 10 on the weird scale.
	Keep at it, sir.
	This is Coast to Coast AM.
	You're listening to Art Bell's Somewhere in Time on Premier Radio Networks.
	Tonight, an encore presentation of Costa Costa M from October 21st, 1997.
	This is a presentation of the new version of the song, which was released in October of 1997.
	The song is called, The End of the World.
	The song is called, The End of the World.
	The End of the World The End of the World
	The End of the World The End of the World
	You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time on Premier Radio Networks.
	You've got to be very weird.
	of Coaster Coast AM from October 21st, 1997.
	Now I'm holding open one line for weird people, and I really mean weird, not just a little weird.
	You've got to be very weird.
	Anyway, that line is normally my first-time caller line.
	Sound of wind blowing.
	All right, a fax here.
	Art, will you allow Hancock and Baval to reply to Hawass's statements?
	I'm sure you agree that would only be fair.
	Welcome home yet well, thank you.
	Yes, of course I would allow Hancock and Baval on to counter the statements made by Zahi Hawass.
	Of course I would.
	So, if anybody out there wants to contact them and let them know, then I have issued an invitation for them to respond.
	They're more than welcome to come on the air.
	On my weird person line, you are on the air.
	Good morning.
	Good morning, Art Bell.
	As you know, I've pre-talked to you.
	I have an extremely rare RH factor, which is RH equal, and I have documents to prove this.
	I've never heard of it.
	RH, I know about RH.
	Positive, I guess it is.
	And R.H.
	negative.
	Negative.
	Well, I'm holding in my hand a document done by the U.S.
	military that states R.H.
	equal, R.H.
	factor equal.
	What does that mean?
	I mean, does that mean that you would be compatible with both blood types, or you would be not compatible with either one?
	Well, being R.H.
	equal, you know, a positive and a positive equals equal, right?
	I mean, equals positive.
	A negative and a positive equals a negative.
	So, you know, by the laws of physics and in nature, RH equals, I guess, you know, a negative and a negative would equal a negative.
	Yeah.
	And a positive and a positive would equal a positive.
	Yeah.
	So actually, actually, my blood type, I could actually donate my blood type to either a negative or a positive.
	Have they tried it?
	That I don't know, but I do know that the human genome has been completely mapped back in the 1950s, and I have the name of a doctor and some phone numbers that actually cloned a human in the early 1970s.
	Well, you know what?
	I don't doubt that.
	We were talking about that yesterday extensively.
	But I've never heard of an RH equal person.
	I never have either.
	I've never run across anybody else that has RH.
	Is there anything otherwise different about you?
	Do you have any strange powers?
	Can you see through walls?
	Well, I have been known on occasion to be passing people on the sidewalk and they would look toward me and I would answer their question and they'd kind of look at me kind of dumbfounded.
	You're telling me you can read minds?
	Well, not particularly read minds.
	I have a sense of what someone is about to ask, and I would answer the question on occasion.
	It doesn't happen on a regular basis.
	It just occurs occasionally.
	I just read a book that I've recommended to my listeners, and I recommend to you called The Miracle Strain.
	Boy, was that a good book!
	And you sort of fit into Perhaps a category that was almost described in that book.
	I don't want to give anything away, but... Well, I do recall way back, you know, in the late 50s, early 60s of being tested genetically, you know, at some point when I was extremely young.
	And the genetic testing that they did, of some sort, they injected something into my right hip.
	And, you know, it came back as an extremely strong Whatever it was.
	Here I am suffering from a cold right now.
	Do you get colds?
	No.
	You don't get colds?
	No.
	I don't even get the flu.
	You don't ever get the flu either?
	Well, I get the garden 12-hour variety, but I don't get the flu or the cold, no.
	We need your blood.
	We need your blood!
	Well, the plasma, actually.
	It may be there's something in your blood that could aid all of humanity.
	Well, it's possible, but the thing of it is... We need to get you on a table and slice and dice a bit.
	Do you remember a television series back in the early 70s, late 60s, maybe even mid-70s, regarding a person that had an extremely rare blood type that Government agents were chasing this person all over the place and he would donate blood.
	You know, I vaguely do recall that, yes.
	And he would donate blood to cure people and stuff like that.
	Yes.
	That is basically the scenario behind the mapping of the Human Genome Project.
	And the human genome has been completely mapped, like I say, in the 50s.
	The story behind the human clone that was actually cloned successfully in 1975.
	The doctor that cloned this individual was naturally sponsored by the military for military purposes.
	The military gave orders to this doctor to do away with this clone because the clone refused to kill a dog.
	You know, actually physically kill a dog.
	It wouldn't kill on command.
	Well, so that wouldn't be any good for the military.
	No, it wouldn't.
	No.
	But, you know, if you... Would the clone even kick a dog?
	No, it wouldn't harm the dog in any way.
	Well, then that's obviously no good for the military at all.
	No, but I can give you the doctor's name and phone number.
	Well, I don't want it now.
	Not here on the air.
	Let's do it off the air.
	Okay.
	Get me by email or snail mail or however you can get it to me privately the number and I will investigate this.
	Well, I will get, like I say, it's going to be a couple weeks before I get connected back up to the internet.
	But when I get connected back up to the internet, I will send you an email with the doctor's name and two phone numbers.
	All right.
	Wonderful.
	I'll look forward to it.
	Thank you very much.
	I give that man a 7.
	You know, lacking documentation, of course, at this point.
	I give him a 7 on a scale of weirdness.
	Pretty cool.
	Aren't H equal blood?
	Blood that prevents colds or even a serious flu?
	Hmm.
	We need that man's blood, don't we?
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Good morning.
	No, wait a minute.
	Push the button.
	There we go.
	West of the Rockies, now you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Mr. Bell?
	Yes.
	Hey, I'm on.
	That's great.
	Hey, welcome back.
	Thank you.
	Well, I've got a weird theory for you.
	Okay.
	You remember the, I'm sure you do, the guy that freaked out and your satellite went dead?
	Of course.
	Okay.
	You remember what he said right before things went haywire?
	He said that That the aliens were inter-dimensional creatures, I believe?
	That's correct.
	That they weren't what we thought they were.
	That's right.
	Okay, well an inter-dimensional creature would be able to, just like we can look down on fish in a pond, I think one of your recent guests mentioned.
	Yes.
	They should be able to... Actually, that was, again, Professor Kaku who said that.
	Right, right.
	And he said, what would a fish think?
	If you plucked that fish out of the water, and he looked around at the world above the water, which he had never seen before, and you threw him back in, and he was talking to his friends down there, trying to tell them what had happened.
	Exactly.
	Yeah.
	So these creatures then could do the equivalent to us.
	They could possibly read our thoughts, get inside us, maybe in ways that we can't even imagine.
	Now, if you link that idea together with something else that I remember Whitley Strieger mentioning in his book, Communion, that the aliens seem to, I believe he said this, or it was someone along the same lines, that they collect souls.
	They have a fascination with souls.
	Yes.
	Okay, well if you take those two things together, then the aliens could be...
	Uh, inter-dimensional creatures, which is what the first, uh, the, uh, the very unusual call you got.
	Uh, they could be demons.
	I mean, that could be another way of describing what religion has put a label on that people, uh, seem to object to because of all the dogma and, uh... Worse yet, sir?
	Yeah.
	We could just be soul food for them.
	Exactly.
	Yeah.
	Exactly.
	But it puts, it puts the idea of demons And even Christianity, angels, good aliens versus bad
	aliens.
	If we think of it in terms of angels, it seems actually, I hate to say it, but it seems to
	be a lot more acceptable and palatable than calling them demons or angels because after
	all we think of a demon as being a Satan creature with red skin and a tail.
	Don't forget the horns.
	Right.
	You know, we have a cartoon concept that we put onto something, but if we put it in the context that these could be interdimensional creatures that may have an agenda, and if they have some type of fascination or lust for human souls, then it could put, you know, the whole thing, the whole Christianity idea to a different perspective.
	It could.
	All right.
	Well, I appreciate your theory.
	It's definitely weird.
	Definitely weird.
	What do you think the devil really looks like?
	Not the traditional horns and tail and all the rest of it.
	I wonder what the devil really looks like.
	Have any of you actually ever seen the devil?
	Now, the best person that I have ever seen to play the devil, or one of his disciples, is beyond any question Christopher Walken.
	I mean, that guy is weird.
	Christopher Walken As a matter of fact, I would like to interview Christopher Walken.
	He just has a natural sort of wonderfully evil presence about him.
	You know, he's done those sorts of movies and he's almost being typecast now, but he is absolutely perfect for the part.
	Perfect.
	On my international line, you're on the air.
	Good morning.
	Hi.
	Hi there.
	Yes, sir.
	Can you hear me?
	I hear you, where are you?
	I'm calling from Saskatchewan, Canada.
	Saskatchewan, good.
	Welcome to the program.
	Yeah, and you were talking about, the first thing you were talking about, some savings time.
	Saskatchewan doesn't go on it either.
	Really?
	No.
	So we're on the same time as you are right now.
	However, when we change time here, what is it, about another week, we'll change times?
	We'll leave you guys behind, huh?
	Have you seen the October issue of Discover Magazine?
	No, I don't think I have, no.
	I just got back to the country, so I haven't seen it.
	There is an interesting article in there, and some scientists were doing tests on rats, They found out that nitrates and nitrite compounds, both in rats and humans, are a first line of defense against bacteria like E. coli, bacteria, and salmonella.
	So that may explain why a lot of people are getting sick from cutting down.
	A lot of people do not have enough nitrates in their bodies.
	Well, that's a possibility.
	Thank you.
	I am very distrustful of studies done on rats that are then immediately converted to be relative to human beings.
	Because so many times in the past we have either taken things off the market or allowed them to go on the market based on tests on rats.
	And I think that is insufficient.
	I want to see human trials before I'm a believer.
	Anyway, let us continue and go here to my weird person line.
	You're on the air.
	Hello.
	Hello, Art Bell?
	Yes.
	Oh, I just got through.
	That's great.
	Okay, just listen to the show.
	Okay, you're going to have to speak up good and loud.
	I can barely hear you.
	Okay, is that better?
	That's better.
	Okay.
	Well, I just want to say, in 1980, I took a trip to Wyoming to specifically go aboard a UFO on Pat McGuire's farm.
	Well, now, wait a minute.
	Why would you think there would be a UFO landing in Wyoming or anywhere else?
	Well, Mr. McGuire was on television saying that there was on, I think, the old show, That's Incredible.
	Uh-huh.
	And so myself and a couple of friends went out there and... Hmm.
	Saw what we saw.
	It's all documented through Dr. Sprinkle at the University.
	So what did you see?
	Well, I don't really want to say, but I saw... Oh, come on now.
	I saw the equivalent of some bright lights.
	I'll leave it at that.
	And they were flying in a pattern that was not fixed-wing or rotary-wing type aircraft.
	You saw a UFO?
	No doubt, but I don't want to say that because I I have no way to prove it, other than my own word.
	Look, a UFO is just an unidentified flying object, and you definitely saw one of those, right?
	By definition, I did.
	But you didn't get picked up, you didn't get abducted, you didn't get to ride one?
	I'm not sure.
	Oh?
	I don't think I did, no.
	But some strange things did happen.
	Like what?
	I don't want to go into detail.
	There's too many people listening.
	But you knew that when you called me!
	Well, it's just something weird to talk about that I did.
	Well, that's why I have the weird line open.
	Right, right.
	So you can't tell me?
	I could tell you, I could tell you maybe, you know, person-to-person conversation, but not on the air.
	Alright, well, then I'm going to leave it at that then.
	You've got to be able to tell everybody, not just me.
	You've got to be able to tell everybody.
	This is an open radio program.
	So, when you get ready to, you know, make it all public, when you're going to let it all out, they'll call me back.
	On my weird person line, you're on the air.
	Good morning.
	Hello, Art.
	Hello.
	My name is Teddy.
	Okay.
	My friends call me Terrible Teddy.
	They think I'm kind of weird, and I think I'm very normal.
	Well, why do they think you're weird?
	Well, I do have a fascination with death.
	Do you remember the video, Faces of Death?
	Oh, yes.
	I've rented it 27 times.
	Really?
	I find it mildly erotic.
	I don't know.
	I think that's normal, but I just think death... Wait a minute, wait a minute.
	You think death and Faces of Death was a videotape, for those who don't know, that depicted people dying in truly horrible, awful ways?
	Oh, I loved it.
	Really?
	Yeah, and they think, for some reason they say, I have a coffee can full of old toenails, ranging from celebrities... Wait, wait, wait.
	You collect toenails?
	I have a toenail collection, that's right.
	It ranges from celebrities down to my neighbor, and I am quite proud of it, actually.
	How...
	As a matter of interest, how do you get these toenails?
	I mean, it's not something you can ask people for.
	In fact, I do ask for them, and on occasion, if I notice someone is clipping their toenails, I'll wait until they're finished, and then collect them when they leave.
	Do you sometimes have to do so covertly?
	In other words, Well, as I say, I'm kind of proud of the toenail collection, so I don't mind if someone sees me and I'm not afraid to talk to them about it.
	How many, you say you've got, well, give me an estimate.
	How many toenails do you suppose you have, totally?
	Well, to be honest with you, I'm not exactly sure of the number, but a coffee can full is a good size and a large amount.
	That's a lot of toenails.
	How long have you been collecting them?
	For about five years, actually.
	I'm about ready to fill the can and start a new one, so it's exciting for me.
	Another day I found a very large ant in my backyard.
	And I wondered what these ants do during the day.
	So I followed them.
	I followed them for about five hours.
	You spent five hours following an ant?
	Through my backyard, my neighbor's yard, into the street and across the street.
	And I'll tell you, he went down the sewer.
	And I lost him.
	It took a while to get the lid off.
	But I think he ditched me.
	So in other words, by the time you were able to lift the lid, he was gone.
	He was gone.
	Yeah.
	But you spent five hours following an ant.
	I thought it was very stimulating.
	I felt there was something to it.
	They were going somewhere.
	They're very busy.
	I just wanted to know where.
	But he did get away from me.
	And apparently it's a long trip just to cross the yard.
	So maybe they don't get too much accomplished.
	But they are very busy.
	Well, how are you able to devote so much time to The faces of death 27 times, collecting toenails, following ants.
	I mean, these are time-consuming things.
	Yes, it is.
	As a matter of fact, I do sacrifice a lot of sleep.
	Of course, I do listen to your show often, so that takes a lot of my time and gives me a chance also to engage in these activities, because I have a portable radio and headphones and such.
	So you do kind of ride it right along with me now.
	That, I think, is weird, but... As a matter of curiosity, you've got this coffee can full of toenails.
	How do you know which ones came from a celebrity?
	Oh, I tagged them, of course.
	You tagged them?
	A little piece of masking tape to identify them.
	Some of them are just kind of run-of-the-mill, so I don't bother with that, but the very famous ones are people who I consider to be famous.
	Give me a name or two, famous toenails that you have.
	Well, I've got...
	I've got the, hold on a second, let me see, I've got a list here.
	Someone, I did buy a set that someone told me came from Madonna's though.
	From who?
	Did you say Madonna?
	That's right.
	I was in Los Angeles visiting at a time at a beach and someone offered them to me and I'm not sure if this was someone who you consider a turnout dealer or he just was maybe playing a joke.
	Were these given to you freely or did you have to pay money for those?
	You paid for them?
	$165.
	Oh my God.
	And of course I value those greatly.
	Um, alright.
	Well, contact me privately because I've got some very famous nails for you.
	We've got a break here at the top of the hour.
	Nine on a scale of ten.
	You're listening to Arc Bell, somewhere in time.
	tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from October 21st, 1997.
	Coast to Coast is a music video from the late 19th century.
	It is a song about a man who is lost in the middle of the desert.
	The song is about a man who is lost in the middle of the desert.
	You're the dude you are.
	We are doing many things this morning.
	Nothing tremendously important, but a lot of fun.
	I've got a special weird person line open.
	from October 21st, 1997.
	Good morning everybody. We are doing many things this morning.
	Nothing tremendously important, but a lot of fun.
	I've got a special weird person line open.
	Now, why would I open a line for weird people?
	Well, because earlier in the day I got a call from Strange Universe, you know, the TV show.
	And they wanted me to be a judge.
	They're going to have a weird person contest, and I've been invited to be one of five judges, and I thought, well, I have a program, I have weird people, maybe even more than the average, and so I thought I would open a line for weird people, and I am so far not disappointed.
	Now, the caller just before the top of this last hour I definitely was a 9 on a scale of 10.
	I mean, we're talking about a man who watched Faces of Death 27 times and finds it erotic.
	We're talking about a man who collects toenails.
	He had an entire coffee can full of toenails.
	Some of them from famous people.
	In fact, some of them even labeled as Madonna's toenails.
	And here too is a man who followed an ant on his hands and knees for five hours until it fooled him by going down a storm drain.
	I'm giving him a good nine out of ten.
	Then there was an earlier fellow who has invented and possibly patented, I forgot to ask about that, orgasm machines.
	One for men, one for women.
	Here's somebody faxing Art, tell your caller, I will sell my toenails for 20 cents each.
	I'm broke.
	Signed, Tom.
	And this, I guess on a more serious note, Dale from Atlanta, Georgia.
	Art just heard on ABC News, thousands of seabirds found dead in Alaska due to starvation.
	El Nino is what's being blamed.
	The quickening, oh, and that reminds me, he says, the quickening continues.
	It's from Dale.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air, good morning.
	Good morning, Mr. Bell.
	Yes.
	About your trip to Egypt?
	Yes.
	Must have been beautiful.
	It was.
	I wanted to ask you, the Egyptian calendar, isn't that supposed to be one of the oldest calendars in the world?
	Well, I'm sure it's old.
	I mean, the Egyptian civilization is certainly very old.
	Well, I heard it goes back to 7,000 years, but it's consecutive years.
	I mean, it's nothing like time wasted or anything like that.
	I heard a lot about the Egyptian calendar.
	Now, these things in the pyramids that you saw, that was built 5,000 years ago?
	A lot of people estimate 4,000 or 5,000 years.
	There are others who think the Sphinx is as old as 12,000 years.
	It's very unclear.
	Very unclear.
	Okay, now, that was built by the Egyptian slaves?
	I think those are the indications, but nobody can still show how it was done.
	But I saw the tombs of the workers that built the pyramid, so there is no question That human beings were involved, but how they moved the blocks remains as much of a mystery as ever.
	Okay, now that's the pharaohs are buried there, that's the kings of Egypt.
	Yeah, the pharaohs.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	That's in the Bible, too.
	Now, there's Alexandria, Egypt.
	Oh, yeah, I was there.
	Okay.
	That was named by Alexander the Great.
	That was built by Alexander the Great during the Greek Empire.
	That's correct, right?
	I think that's correct.
	And that's 300 years B.C.
	That was built by...
	But it's wonderful to see how European history, in a way, and Southern European history, and the Middle East history... Yeah, as a matter of fact, I'll tell you some about that.
	Where are you calling from?
	Minneapolis.
	Minneapolis.
	All right, well, you listen to what I have to say.
	Whether you're talking about Paris... As a matter of fact, I think CNN did something on this recently.
	Paris, London...
	uh... any other major european capital that you could name save perhaps the former eastern bloc countries their society is very their civilization much much much older than us or any of our cities and yet their cities are kept well their infrastructure is clean and efficient Safe.
	When you walk around their streets, you are generally safe.
	Now, I would not necessarily say that about Cairo.
	I'm talking more about the northerly European cities.
	Very old.
	Very safe.
	Very clean.
	And here we are, very new, and our infrastructure is falling apart.
	Our bridges are a mess.
	Many of our inner cities are total disasters.
	Washington, D.C., our nation's capital, certainly is one of those.
	You look at the monuments that are maintained, and they're very pretty, but outside of that, Washington, D.C.
	is basically surrounded by basically a ghetto.
	There are certainly nice areas of Washington, but there are a lot of not-so-nice areas.
	And you've just got to wonder why that is.
	And it's not confined to Washington, D.C.
	That was the example, I think, that CNN or TBS used.
	I forget which it was.
	TBS, maybe.
	But any major U.S.
	inner city has a lot of areas that, frankly, a lot of Americans would be ashamed of when they go and look at the European capitals that are much older.
	And I wonder why that is.
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hi.
	Good morning, Art.
	Good morning to you.
	I consider myself weird, but yes, true.
	My fifth birthday, when I was younger, it was a big disappointment to me.
	I can still remember it, but what I remember was a lady visiting me.
	It was more of a spiritual lady that I met when I was about five.
	She's always contacted me when I'm alone or when I'm meditating.
	I've always called her like a mother, like a second mother to me.
	What she's taught me, I mean I know this for true, what she's taught me is how to control the wind.
	The wind?
	Yes, indeed.
	Now, let me get this straight.
	This is a woman who comes to you psychically.
	In fact.
	Right.
	When I was little, you know, when I was little, I had a better imagination.
	I was in touch better.
	And I'd actually see her.
	But as I've grown up, I can hear her.
	And it's not that I'm trying to contact her.
	It's just instantly she's there at the least moment I'll expect it.
	Okay.
	How do you control the wind?
	The way I figure it, I get myself into a meditation state where I just concentrate on what I'm doing or my feelings are enraged.
	It just kind of flows through me.
	In fact, I remember it was my 21st birthday.
	I was living out in Nebraska and I was really, really upset.
	I don't remember why, but I was really upset over it.
	I created a twister.
	Probably about five miles south of me.
	God, you mean a tornado?
	A tornado, indeed.
	You must have been really ticked off.
	Yeah, I was.
	I was really ticked off, in fact.
	Well, can it go the other way?
	In other words, if it's blowing hard outside, and let's say it's annoying you, and you want it to stop.
	No, not really.
	No, no.
	I can't do that.
	But when it's really still, or when it's a clear day out, Yeah.
	I'm not talking I can control the wind all over the world.
	It's like, it seems to me like in a 15-20 mile radius of me.
	A localized thing.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Exactly.
	And I just, it's just a feeling that just comes through my hands and my head and just blows through me.
	And it's really awesome.
	Some neat things happen.
	That is cool.
	I mean, you ought really not create tornadoes.
	That's nasty.
	Well, yeah, that's true enough.
	True enough.
	Went out to Nebraska to see one, and never did, and I finally did though.
	You know, the city of Los Angeles could use you.
	Get on their payroll.
	Well, when it's still in L.A.
	You know, when you don't have a good offshore breeze or something, naturally you've got a lot of pollution.
	Sure.
	And anybody who could generate wind would be of truly great value.
	True.
	Yeah, my name's Takoda, by the way.
	Dakota?
	Takoda with a T. Takoda.
	Hey, I got another thing I want to throw at you.
	I'd like your advice on real quick.
	I've talked to you before on this and I never really got a straight answer from you.
	Anyway, what it involves was this Sean Morton, I think it was.
	Sean David Morton, yes.
	Yeah, there you go.
	He was on the other night.
	Yep.
	Anyway, and another fellow, probably about a year back, was talking about this Aurora project.
	Yes.
	A fact of proof with it, and I'd like to tell you a quick story about it because it's really, it's pretty awesome.
	Well wait a minute, you said you asked me a question and didn't get a straight answer.
	What was it?
	Excuse me?
	You said you asked me a question and didn't get a straight answer.
	What was it?
	Well, what it was, was a couple years back, I was living in a small town in southern Colorado and a preacher friend of mine, I wasn't too old anyway, he took a vacation out to Lake Powell.
	Yes.
	And was using, he was on one of those ferry boat rides.
	Yes.
	And was using high speed photography just to take, you know, a picture of the scenery and da da da da da.
	And just took a picture in the afternoon time.
	And he got home and developed it.
	And all of a sudden there was this craft right in the middle of it that was just splitting the wind in two.
	And he could see like four huge jets coming out of the back of it.
	This guy didn't see it.
	He didn't hear it.
	Nothing.
	Zilch.
	Just a chance at a million, right?
	A phantom crest.
	You got it.
	So what he did, he sent it to the Pentagon.
	He took a couple of proofs of it and kept them for himself and blew it up a little bit.
	He sent it to the Pentagon, and about two weeks later, the Pentagon sent back a letter.
	I have the letter, that you know, a Xerox copy, just stating that, you know, it's probably a fluke in your photography.
	It's nothing to worry about, but we'd like your negatives.
	Yeah, indeed.
	So he knew he had something right away.
	Yeah, Men In Black.
	You got it.
	What he tried to do, he contacted Time Magazine.
	Yes.
	And within two days, this must have put out a red light for him or something.
	Because two days later, Men In Black came to his house.
	Here we go.
	He was a minister, right?
	They put a federal warrant on his house saying that he was embezzling money.
	Through the church.
	They took him away.
	In the meantime, in those two or three days, he gave me a picture, a fairly good sized picture of this craft.
	As far as I know, it's the last one remaining.
	It is just awesome.
	There's no way it's a fluke.
	There's no way that it's a fake.
	It's a fact.
	It's a splint in the ear in two.
	It's just incredible.
	I've been sitting on it for about five years now.
	And whoever doesn't know what I'm talking about, as far as what I understand is, is this craft is if, let's say, Russia were to send up an ICBM at us, right?
	That we'd have something so fast to travel over to Russia or wherever and knock out this ballistic missile on their own soil.
	Alright, well I'm still not clear on what question you asked me that I did not answer properly.
	Okay, well there you go.
	The thing that bothers me I'm a patriot at heart.
	I mean, our government, you know, it's got its bad points, it's got its good points.
	Yes, yes.
	The thing I don't understand is, I know it's true, I just worry about national security.
	Now, last time I talked to you, you were like, well, just send it in, I'll throw it on my website.
	Well, I contacted my... Oh, you mean the photograph?
	Yeah, the photograph.
	Well, right!
	Well, I talked to my state representative, my senator here in Colorado.
	Yes.
	And he immediately put me in with Space Command down at NORAD.
	Yes.
	And NORAD told me what they believed it was was what I said it was.
	Yes.
	And they want me to send it to them, for them to send it to the CIA, just to bury it.
	All right, well, I'm going to give you the same answer I gave you before.
	Don't send it to the CIA.
	Don't give it to the guys in suits.
	Send it to me.
	And I don't see how you can refer to that as an unsatisfactory reply.
	Because if I get it, I'll put it up on the web and everybody can see it.
	Well, that was a painful way to get to...
	to get an answer to that question.
	thunder Back to the lines we go.
	On my weird person line, you are on the air.
	Hello.
	Hello.
	Am I on the air?
	You're on the air.
	Yeah.
	Well, first of all, I was a weird child.
	When I was born, I was born with webbed toes.
	Webbed toes?
	Yeah.
	Webbed toes?
	I was always double-jointed.
	Weird things when I was a kid.
	You mean you actually have skin between all your toes?
	Not all of them.
	Between two of my toes.
	Does it help you when you swim?
	People always ask me that, but not really.
	I was double jointed when I was a child.
	A lot of people are double jointed.
	But I could do weird things like wrap my legs and arms into like a pretzel.
	And I would walk around on my knees.
	And then I would, like, stick my stomach out to, like, about almost a foot and then suck it in and scare my ma to death.
	Really?
	Yeah, just terribly weird.
	I would swallow stones.
	Swallow... you ate rocks?
	Yeah.
	Why did... why?
	Because they... because I could.
	Did they taste good?
	Um... Or was it just sort of a thing like, hey, I can eat rocks, watch.
	They kind of felt good going down when they hit the stomach.
	That also scared my mother.
	That would scare me.
	What size rocks could you... I mean, surely you couldn't eat a jagged rock.
	No, they were round, smooth rocks.
	Like you'd find in a pond or maybe at the beach or something that had been worn away by the water?
	No, just right out in the yard.
	Yard rocks?
	Yeah.
	Where are you, by the way?
	Right now I'm calling from Maybrook, New York.
	Maybrook, New York.
	Where were you when you were eating rocks?
	Green Bay, Wisconsin.
	Green Bay, Wisconsin.
	Do you have any idea whether the rocks... Obviously, a rock is not something that you're going to be able to assimilate and digest.
	Well, that's what my mother was worried about, so she called the doctor, and the doctor said not to worry, that they would pass right through, which I don't remember happening, but another thing that I did is I took a stick and I started digging a hole in my knee, and so I got to the bone.
	What?
	I would dig, I'd take a kind of a pointy stick and I would start digging a... A hole in your knee?
	Yeah, in my knee.
	And then I'd see some white stuff in there and that... That's probably your bone.
	Yeah, it was bone or cartilage or something.
	It was kind of neat.
	But that, you know, I just had a weird life.
	Completely oddball weird.
	You're right.
	You are weird.
	Now, how old are you now?
	I'm 37.
	37.
	Now, when did, how long were you eating rocks?
	Well, I stopped.
	My mother made me stop after a while, but I would say for about a week or so.
	A week of eating rocks?
	Yeah.
	Do you have any idea what caused you to be... Well, I was told my father was in the service, and I was told that he was on a cruiser.
	This is how the story goes.
	A Navy cruiser during the atomic testing.
	Yes.
	And I've always had a theory that That sort of, uh, kind of passed on to me.
	Ah, so you think he may have been genetically irradiated, causing a defect in you which caused you to eat rocks and pick your knee open.
	Well, yeah, but I don't consider my, consider it a defect.
	I consider it kind of like an enhancement.
	You know what I mean?
	Kind of like a superior being.
	Uh, a mutant, like on the X-Men or something like that.
	You dig?
	Yeah, I do.
	Do you still feel that, for example, today you could eat a rock?
	Oh, definitely.
	I could definitely eat a rock.
	Do you actually find yourself longing for an occasional rock?
	Well, considering that the nutritional value of most of the food nowadays isn't all that high, I would think a rock would be Fairly good for you.
	Well, there would be trace minerals, certainly.
	Oh yeah, a lot of dirt.
	Dirt is supposed to be good for you, really, if you think about it.
	You didn't eat dirt, did you?
	Well, there was dirt on the rock.
	That's true.
	So I suppose, in a way, your body probably did assimilate some of what you ate.
	Well, I would think so.
	I've never, like I said, I don't remember passing them.
	Have you ever seen a snake eat a mouse?
	No, I don't believe I have.
	It's really horrible.
	You can see the mouse actually, you know, as a giant lump, slowly going down the snake and being digested as it goes.
	Doesn't the snake's jaw kind of disconnect so it can... That's right.
	That's exactly right.
	Now, what size rocks?
	I mean, did you eat...
	What we would generally call a pebble?
	Oh no, like I bought a bird's egg sized rock.
	I mean, I couldn't obviously take a five pound rock and swallow it.
	I mean, it was just a stone.
	Nothing fancy.
	Well, look, I'm not exactly sure how to classify you, but you're definitely up there on a scale of 10.
	Uh, sir, it doesn't end there, but I don't know if you have enough time for me.
	You mean there's more?
	There's more.
	I hate to admit it.
	Well, I do have time for you.
	Well, when I was 16, or in my teenage years, I was pretty much, I don't know, a village idiot.
	You know, not too smart of a guy, you know?
	Well, probably from eating rocks.
	Yeah.
	Well, see, what I did is I kind of said... Wait a minute.
	Let this be a cliffhanger.
	Can you afford to hold on?
	I don't know.
	I've got a prepaid phone card.
	I'm not that rich.
	Alright.
	Well, call me back then and we'll continue.
	Tonight or today?
	Well, no.
	Tomorrow.
	Tomorrow?
	Yeah.
	Sure.
	I can do that.
	Alright.
	I'll look forward to your... I'll think of you as a rock man.
	Alright?
	Rock man.
	Alright.
	Alright.
	Thank you.
	Okay.
	What do you folks think?
	That deserves a good 8 out of 10.
	You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time, on Premier Radio Networks.
	Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM, from October 21st, 1997.
	Wanted you, couldn't escape if I wanted you.
	Wanna lose, couldn't escape if I wanted to Wanna lose, knowing my fate is to be you
	Wanna lose, finally facing my own truth My heart, I've tried to hold you back but
	I'm not afraid of losing you I'm not afraid of losing you
	I'm not afraid of losing you I'm not afraid of losing you
	I'm not afraid of losing you you
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	Tonight's program originally aired October 21st, 1997.
	Well, as you can see, I'm doing weird tonight, and I'm definitely not disappointed.
	We've had some real winners thus far.
	What do you folks think?
	Tony?
	Tony?
	Anyway, it continues.
	If you think you qualify as an exceptionally weird person for one reason or another, I have my weird person line open since I'm going to be an official judge.
	In a contest of this sort, I thought I might prepare.
	And there probably is no way to prepare for something like this.
	So anyway, that's what we're doing.
	But whatever that's worth.
	Maybe you shook hands with somebody and felt a surge of information about that person.
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	back to the night of October 21st 1997 on art bells somewhere in time.
	♪ There was a young woman named Bright who could travel faster than light.
	She went up one day in a relative way and returned the previous night.
	On my weird line, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Yeah, hi Art.
	Hi.
	How you doing?
	Okay.
	Basically, what I do that's weird is go around all day walking up to strangers and asking them, what does it feel like to be alive on this planet?
	Really?
	Yes.
	And what sort of responses do you garner?
	Well, a lot of them give me a double take.
	Well, you know, if you were to do that to me, I might regard that as a threat.
	In other words, like you're asking me, you know, how does it feel to be alive on the planet?
	In a way, to suggest, how would it feel not to be alive?
	Yeah, well, some of them would rather, they would say, well, I'd rather talk that to a psychiatrist than saying it out to you.
	Some of them give me a double-take, as I said.
	Some of them want to talk about the actual miracle of life here.
	Then we'll get into talking about life and the different nuances.
	Well, it definitely has its ups and downs.
	I mean, there's a lot of ways of looking at it.
	Life sometimes is wonderful, and sometimes it's a total bummer.
	Yeah, I like to share my personal philosophy, so I'll even put out ideas that, you know, passing people by in the street is a totally unnatural thing.
	I mean, we all tolerate it.
	But I like to share that idea with people and see what they think about it.
	Now, I'll go do this in malls, in parks, in bookstores, train stations, bus stations, wherever I can get around.
	You probably scare people.
	Well, if I scare people, I think maybe they're neurotic, you know?
	Seemingly, however, my behavior would be taken as neurotic, but in a sense... Well, I'd be normal.
	Because the only way we can... You know, normal is a strange kind of word anyway.
	I mean, what's normal?
	The only way you can suggest that something is normal is by averages.
	In other words, that, say, nine out of ten people would say you're neurotic or strange.
	And so, by that measure, I suppose we could say you are According to the norm, neurotic.
	That doesn't necessarily make you so, but there's a good chance you are.
	Yeah, there's a psychiatrist that's dead now named R.D.
	Lange, who spoke to this whole thing and he said, the people that go around the way they do in everyday society, robotic-like, dead, this is actually more abnormal than the so-called neurotic.
	In other words, the way people pass each other by in everyday society... You think it's really dumb that people, in effect, pass each other on the street without any form of communication?
	Yeah, I think that... Or interaction?
	Well, see, we're tribal people, in a sense, and the way society has been structured... As a matter of fact, the social nature of us Is not social in a natural, intimate sense of the word.
	No, absolutely not.
	You're right.
	We are very distant from each other in modern society, and you are doing your little part to change that.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Which could land you in a mental institution.
	Right.
	Now this is what all the prophets did, and they were considered that crazy too.
	I mean, if they came back today, any of the prophets, they would probably be put in an institution, as you say.
	Well, I wonder when they put you in and then did your examination and tried to determine if you were sane or not, what a psychiatrist would have to say about you?
	I think he'd probably be under the old structure which, you know, tried to put dysfunctional, make people functional and put them back in a dysfunctional society.
	So he'd try to cure you?
	He is impossible.
	He would try to cure you?
	Yeah.
	That seems to be the psychiatrist's way of thinking, to put people back into a dysfunctional society, so-called functional, which I don't think you can do.
	No, I follow you.
	Well, I'm calling from King of Prussia, Pennsylvania.
	Okay.
	Which is a strange name, first of all.
	It is.
	Many people realize what that is.
	That is an actual town here.
	It's probably a small town, isn't it?
	Yeah, it has the largest shopping mall, uh, the third largest shopping mall in the country.
	See, in New York or Los Angeles, you would not actually be thought of as particularly strange.
	Or, you know, as somebody who stands out because you're going around asking people this question.
	But I would imagine in King of Prussia, well, they probably think of you as Well, it also has Valley Forge National Historic Park in it.
	And one of the biggest malls in the country.
	So it's one and the other.
	In other words, it's two of the most opposite things you can have.
	Like a natural paradigm combined with one of the biggest malls in the country.
	What is the most interesting answer you ever got to your question?
	Basically, I guess it runs along the lines of some of the same things that people say, that, you know, just the fact that we have arms and legs here and are standing up is like a miracle in itself.
	Like, that very fact, you know what I mean?
	Well, it is for a lot of people.
	Alright, sir, well, I appreciate the call.
	I can imagine that you would have some difficulty in a small Pennsylvania town walking around asking people that kind of question.
	So yes, you're weird.
	Probably, though, no more than, say, about 5 on a scale of 10.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hi.
	Hi, Art.
	This is Ray from Peoria.
	How you doing?
	Not too bad.
	You still got open lines?
	Absolutely.
	OK.
	I'm glad you made it back all right.
	Oh, me too.
	There were moments when I wasn't sure.
	Oh, really?
	I had one question and one quick comment.
	I was wondering, Did you ever contact Father Malachi Martin before you went?
	Yes.
	To get into some of the secret places?
	I did, but the problem was the Good Father's contact at the Vatican was at that time in South America preparing for the Pope, because you remember the Pope was going to South America.
	And so his contact was not in place and we didn't get to do it.
	Okay, well I just had one little comment about the Roswell incident.
	Something I've never heard brought up.
	It seems to me it can only be one of two ways.
	One, something actually crashed that was totally unknown, and they have it.
	Or two, they're putting people so incompetent in charge of our nuclear weapons, I think that's scarier than the first.
	Well, if you're worried about our officialdom with regard to nuclear weapons, you better look at what's going on over in Russia.
	That'll really scare the hell out of them.
	With the suitcase nukes and everything disappearing.
	Oh, man.
	A hundred of them.
	What would you, if you had a suitcase nuke, what would you do with it?
	Boy, that's a hard question.
	I know.
	I wouldn't want one.
	Well, I know, but let's say you were given one.
	Yeah.
	Right.
	Free of charge.
	Suitcase nuke.
	It's all yours.
	Well, I don't know if that's a question I can even answer.
	I can't even imagine having something like that.
	That's just... Be a lot of personal power.
	Yeah.
	Be a lot of responsibility, too.
	Well, that's the way power is.
	Yeah.
	Well, anyway, you think that over, and if you ever come up with an answer, call me.
	Sure will.
	All right?
	Take care.
	All right.
	Yeah, what would you do if you had one of those hundred suitcase newts?
	Boy, I'm telling you.
	Local changes?
	No problem.
	Be something, huh?
	On my weird line, you're on the air.
	Good morning.
	Yes, Art.
	Just call me me from Alabama.
	Okay, it's me from Alabama.
	Okay.
	I'd like to talk about something about me being weird.
	Plus, I'd like to end it with talking about these scientists inventing or having these clones on their torsos.
	Oh, yes.
	Well, two separate subjects.
	Or maybe not.
	How are you weird?
	Okay.
	I walk around with money in my shoes.
	I've got four type shoes and the rest of my shoes are sandals and high heels.
	Yeah?
	And the largest amount of money I walk on is at least four dollars.
	Well, why do you do that?
	And it's all unchanged.
	Well, this is money that I find in parking lots and things like that and I put it in the right shoe.
	Yeah?
	And I get money within a couple of days.
	It may not be money.
	Most of the time it's money.
	So, in other words, it is your theory that if you find money, or even put money in your shoe, that will cause you to find money.
	Well, mostly.
	Is that it?
	When I put the money in my shoe and walk on it, I've handed money.
	Money is given to me.
	Wow.
	Now, one time I found a dime and a nickel, and that's mostly more than I find.
	Usually it's pennies.
	And I thought, well, I wonder what I'm going to get for that.
	And I was given $300 within two days later.
	And people laugh at me because when I take my shoes off somewhere, when I'm sitting around, there's always some change in my shoes.
	And every pair that I have except my sandals or high heels have money in it.
	How did you discover that this works?
	Well, the Bible says, Whatsoever the soles of your feet tread on, that shall you possess.
	Boy, it's hard to believe they were talking about money there, though.
	Well, the sole of my feet's on it, isn't it?
	Well, you can't argue with success.
	No?
	Now, can I mention that about the torsos that they're inventing for the parts?
	Human parts?
	Absolutely.
	Did you see on television it was on either hard copy or excess?
	I'm not really sure.
	The first of this week where this doctor was on there that had, he had successfully moved, removed a head from a bowel bone and put it on another one.
	Oh no.
	And he wants to do this to a human and they showed this paralegic in a wheelchair and he said he would be willing for them to, if they found the body, like a body in a wreck, there wasn't nothing wrong with it.
	Put his head on it?
	You know what worries me even more than that?
	he said, if you were in my shoes you would think so different.
	Of course.
	And the doctor said that he's in the process of getting the spine, you know, where the
	head connects.
	Yeah.
	When he gets that thoroughly done, which they've already successfully done it on a bowel bone,
	he's going to do it on a human.
	You know what worries me even more than that?
	I once had a guest on the show who said, we now have the technical capability to keep
	a head alive by itself.
	Uh uh uh.
	With no body.
	Well, they probably do.
	Like you said a while ago, they can do that.
	But, well, they can do the cold, too.
	They just don't want to do it.
	Look, going back now to your earlier thing, it's very intriguing.
	Do you find that there's any difference in the amount of money you put in your shoe in terms of what will come to you then from doing that?
	Well, yes sir, I did.
	Usually I find that people lose pennies for some reason.
	I don't know why they don't lose more, but they lose pennies.
	Well, I'll tell you one reason.
	People don't even pick up pennies.
	It's come to the stage now where a penny is worth so little that if it's on the ground, people won't even bother to reach down and pick it up.
	Well, I do, and I try to put it in the right shoe.
	Yep.
	What I mean is, let's say you had 25 cents in your shoe, and then let's say on another day you had a $100 bill in your shoe.
	Would there be a difference in what they would bring?
	I believe it.
	Well, yes, from what I've experimented on the small change that I have, I know, because... Now, I haven't put a $100 bill in there that would kind of, you know, rot out of that.
	But... Well, a $100 bill, all things considered, would be easier to walk on than, say, 25 cents.
	Yes, it would, but it seems like the money that I have placed in my shoe has been money that I found.
	Seems like just finding it kind of adds to the...
	I understand.
	The ability that it's going to happen, like I found the dime and the nickel.
	And I thought, gosh, I wonder what that's going to bring.
	And I got $300.
	Unexpectedly, within about two days.
	Totally cool.
	$15 and $15 is $30.
	Like bank error in your favor.
	Like a monopoly.
	Alright, thank you very much.
	That's pretty cool.
	I'm going to have to give that a try.
	Have any of the rest of you ever done that?
	You find money, change, small change, pennies even, and put it in your right shoe.
	And then within a day or two, money will come to you.
	Through some, you know, unexpected way.
	Somebody will hand you money, bank error in your favor, whatever, you will make money.
	Hmm.
	I've always had a thing about pennies, and I always, always, always pick them up.
	Very important to me.
	I feel as though if I ever leave a penny, I know this is, you know, very superstitious, but if I ever leave a penny, I think that I will have terrible financial trouble.
	So I don't do it.
	I always pick up pennies.
	Wild Card Line, you're on the air.
	Hi.
	Yes.
	Good morning.
	Good morning, Mr. Bell.
	It's an honor to speak to you and welcome back from your trip from Egypt.
	This is Steve.
	Hi, Steve.
	I've been ordered to return tonight and actually defend David John Oates.
	Really?
	Yeah, the earlier caller.
	And actually, I do agree.
	I would like to defend David Oates, but first I think I need to apologize for what I said in reverse about him being a rotten schmuck.
	So, sorry, David.
	That's right.
	People can't control what they say in reverse.
	I know that.
	But you and I were talking about the NASA PR men and I was thinking about them.
	Yeah.
	So I think I was talking about them.
	That could be.
	And you know where the other reversal where I said I beef it up?
	Yeah.
	That was the security at Area 51 I was thinking about.
	I was thinking about the women in black.
	See, I tell the men in black what to do, but the women in black tell me what to do and I was thinking about that.
	I was thinking about the women in black.
	I tell the men in black what to do, but the women in black tell me what to do.
	I was thinking about that.
	That's what I meant by stole my life.
	I bet you're interested in finding the script.
	it.
	Vaguely.
	Find the Script, the reversal.
	It was on the other side of the room and I didn't have it with me.
	And he had one reversal, David did, it said, I'm arrogant.
	But I was actually thinking in my mind, it was near the end of the call, I was thinking, I'm going to have to be on the air again.
	And that's why that happened like that.
	And he said on another reversal that I pierced a big enemy.
	But that was actually me saying, I fear it's the big enemy.
	Hmm.
	And I also can tell you why you were knocked off the air that night.
	Why?
	You were knocked off the air by the Supreme Commandant.
	Of what?
	Of the Pleiadian Alliance.
	She told me all about it and showed me a 3D image of the caller called David from Philadelphia who should have sent you a package by now.
	Not that I know of.
	not that I know of.
	And well he will.
	And he believes it's a hoax now.
	But he doesn't realize that he has been forced to believe that he hoaxed the call.
	But it was, the call was timed, his call, he was forced to time his call to when she
	blacked out the satellite so that it would create more credibility.
	So it was definitely a she who did it.
	Yes.
	And she wanted me to tell you about Ed Dames and his explanation for the lights over Phoenix.
	Yes.
	Since Ed Dames has been in the government, since the time he's left, the government's got new and more advanced remote viewers, and they're so advanced that the government dispatched them out to Phoenix on the day they knew it.
	Ed Dames and associates would be remote viewing to find out what the lights were, and these new government advanced remote viewers were able to project images of industrial infrared lasers intersecting each other into the minds of Ed Daines and his associates to cause him and to break the belief barrier and cause him to believe that that's what caused the lie.
	So you're telling me that Ed Daines was remotely influenced?
	He was remotely programmed and I've got all the documents here I can explain who did it and how and I can even tell you Something about Bill Clinton visiting South America and how he visited those military families down there, you know?
	All right, well, we'll have to hold it there.
	We're at the top of the hour.
	Thanks for all of that info, and we'll have to check with Ed and see what he thinks.
	We'll be right back.
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	I'm always forgetting to read that.
	On my weird line, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Hey, Art.
	Hi.
	Uh, this is Dave.
	I'm calling from Central Iowa.
	Iowa.
	Yes.
	Nation's Heartland.
	Um, gosh.
	When I was a little kid, um, there were these... I don't know if this was a dream or what, but it was constant.
	Constantly happening to me.
	These creatures would come into my room.
	Really?
	And I would refer to them as beedies.
	Beedies?
	Yes.
	And they were tiny little, like, three foot tall creatures.
	With heads that looked like pickaxes, totally black colored, like night black.
	Oh, man.
	But the thing that got to me was some of them had paper sacks with large, big black eyes.
	And like a few years ago, I saw that book, cover of a book by, I think, Whitley Schraber.
	That's right.
	Communion.
	Yes.
	And you recognized them.
	And vaguely, yes.
	I don't know if that's what it was, but It scared the heck out of me.
	I... I don't know if that's what it was, but, like, these things would come into my room at night.
	And do what?
	Well, surround me and make this weird noise.
	It was kind of like a... Can I... But, like, it was all out of sync.
	There was, like, a lot of them doing... Let me... Let me hear that again.
	It was like a... Kind of like a weird, like, breathing through your teeth noise.
	But some of it sounded like it was coming out of an electronic box or something.
	It was really... I thought that sounded like the guys who breathe in the slasher movies.
	Yeah, who knows?
	But it was... I don't know.
	I've only told my parents and like one friend about it.
	And it's... You know, it was like when I was two or three years old.
	I can remember way back then.
	It was... It was just always at this one old house we lived at.
	It's never happened.
	You know, after that it was...
	Something else, I guess.
	Very weird, sir.
	Definitely weird.
	Do you think they did anything to you?
	Gosh, you know, I don't know.
	Other than the fact that it was way too intense to have been a dream.
	I mean, maybe it was.
	I don't know.
	Little kids have wild imaginations.
	I suppose you told your mom or dad.
	Oh, yeah.
	What'd they say?
	I think they just shrug it off as, you know, dumb little kid.
	Yeah.
	Whatever, but... Did you go under the covers?
	Uh, yeah.
	Like, I used to wake up on the floor, uh, under the bed.
	You know, I don't remember getting there, but heck if I know.
	I guess I'll never know what it was.
	Is there anything unusual now in your adult life that you can ascribe to?
	Um, you know, after I read Streber's books and stuff, and I tried to think of any sort of a weird, uh, You know, missing time type of thing or anything like that.
	Sure.
	And I can't think of anything that's happened since then, so it might have just been like a dream thing or something.
	Who knows?
	How old are you now?
	I'm 23 right now.
	23.
	Well, there's a lot of life left for you, and it may yet manifest itself.
	Well, maybe I'm better off never finding out.
	Yeah, that's right.
	Maybe you are.
	Thank you very much for the call.
	I don't like the sound of that.
	Little guys about three feet tall with heads like pickaxes.
	Yuck.
	Total yuck.
	West of the Rockies, you are on the air.
	Good morning.
	Hi.
	Hello.
	Where are you?
	In Alabama, actually.
	Alabama, alright.
	Kind of transplanted from Pennsylvania, but... I like to eat paste.
	Come again?
	Paste.
	Paste, you mean like Elmer's glue, that kind of paste?
	Yeah.
	Um, I ate paste when I was a little kid.
	Yeah?
	First grade.
	Do you ever have, like, um, you, like, roll them up in your palm and make the, like, peel and skin off your, your hand, right?
	Now you're talking about super glue.
	No, not super glue, because that stuff sticks your fingers together.
	I mean, like... Well, I mean, you said peel the skin off your hand.
	Oh, yeah, well, no, no, no, not literally peel the skin off your hand, but you take the Elmer's white glue.
	Yeah?
	And you put it on your hand and you let it dry.
	Yeah?
	And then when you, Yeah.
	And you would eat that?
	How much of it did you eat?
	And you would eat that?
	Yeah.
	That, or, um, like the kind of, uh, sticky, stinky stuff that smells kind of funny, like
	in art class when you're a little kid.
	It's kind of white, but...
	I don't...
	How much of it did you eat?
	Whenever it will...
	Actually, whenever I got the chance.
	Really?
	I mean, is that the sort of thing you've got to develop a taste for, or did you naturally...
	You know, I mean, how did it start?
	Did you, like, casually lick your hand one day and say, ooh, that's good?
	I don't know.
	It's... I always thought that when I was a little kid, it smelled kind of good, and it tastes a little sweet.
	It's, um... I don't know if it just starts from enjoying playing with it.
	Yeah?
	You know, but it always...
	It's got a nice kind of sweet kind of taste to it.
	It's like a candy kind of thing, and I don't know, I always just kind of enjoyed it.
	I mean, I don't know how actually... How much of it do you actually think you might have consumed?
	In my lifetime?
	Well, yeah.
	I mean, if we're talking about your average Elmer's Glue bottle.
	Okay, well, I don't know, I think like from like a...
	Because actually the first time you really come in contact with it is when you're in first grade or second grade, right?
	Right.
	And I think when I really got interested in it a little bit, if I get the chance now, I'll kind of take a little bit of a lick of it.
	Yeah.
	But I mean, it's not like when I was a kid.
	So it's like you don't feast on it now?
	No, no.
	But you did when you were young.
	But I haven't had it, yeah, absolutely.
	Did anybody, your teachers, your mother, your father, anybody ever talk to you about it?
	No, it wasn't like a mom or dad kind of at-the-house thing.
	It was more of an in-class, like Wednesday art class kind of thing.
	Sure, when they'd give you glue and you'd be, alright, well, were there any effects that you suffered or enjoyed from this?
	In other words, has the glue passed through your system?
	I don't really think so, except for Like I said, I don't know how weird this is, but I mean, I'm not necessarily embarrassed about it by now.
	You know?
	No, it's alright.
	You know what I used to eat?
	What?
	Erasers.
	Erasers?
	Yeah.
	The pink kind?
	Uh, well, you know, like erasers on the end of a pencil.
	Right.
	I always thought they tasted reasonably decent.
	Well, there's a kind that is, uh, it's about like an inch, well, It's about three quarters of an inch wide, about two inches long.
	It's called a pink towel.
	Do you know what kind that is?
	Yeah, I wouldn't eat that.
	That's too much.
	It smells good, though.
	Well, yeah.
	But it's, well, anyway.
	So you ate glue?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Paste.
	It's not exactly glue.
	Well, it is glue, but I don't mean like in the rubber cement kind of way.
	Yeah.
	Not the kind that you get on the brush, but I mean the paste that comes It's a specific kind.
	Elmer's makes it, and when you open it up, it has a paddle inside, like a little thin kind of plastic.
	Sure.
	You know what I mean?
	Sure.
	Of course, I remember it.
	I don't know.
	It's kind of tasty.
	Well, alright.
	I don't know if that's weird or not.
	I don't know.
	It may even have nutritional value, for all I know.
	I have absolutely no idea.
	How old are you now?
	Uh, 25.
	25?
	Yeah.
	Uh, it may be that, um, you don't naturally eliminate it, and one day, when you have not had enough liquids, the paste will solidify and glue you shut.
	Well, um, I had to have my appendix out in March.
	I don't know.
	I wonder if that had anything to do with it.
	It's either that or chewing bubblegum.
	Yeah, a lot of people swallow bubblegum.
	That's not good.
	All right, well listen, thank you very much.
	Thank you.
	You definitely qualify as in there.
	He eats paste.
	Now, as an adult, he does not consume large quantities as he did earlier, but rather takes an occasional lick.
	On my international line, you are on the air.
	Good morning.
	Good morning, Art.
	Where are you?
	Hello.
	Hello.
	Yeah, okay.
	Hey, welcome back.
	Well, thank you.
	Where are you?
	From Kamloops, British Columbia.
	All right.
	Where's Larry?
	Yes, Larry.
	Yes.
	While you were away, there was an item that made the national news here in Canada on the other CBC network about two amateur inventors.
	It was either Rockland, Quebec or Rock Island, Quebec, who claimed that they came up with a device that attaches onto a conventional car engine and produces no emissions.
	A pretty bold claim.
	I should say.
	Now, where are these guys now?
	Well, this was big news for two or three days in the media up here, and then nothing since.
	That's always the way it is.
	They claimed they had a Toyota or something running in a garage for 24 hours with emissions equipment hooked up to it, and then it gave off no emissions.
	If this is true, this is something that's a win-win for environmentalists and oil companies.
	Well, you know why you haven't heard anything else, though, don't you?
	Well, I can imagine.
	The old 100 mile per gallon carburetor.
	You got it.
	The oil companies have dungeons.
	And people like that are in dungeons.
	Well, they claim that they have been inundated with calls from every conceivable oil, gas, other interested parties.
	If you had to guess, do you think they're still alive?
	Well, I would certainly hope so, but this was a prominent story in the news up here and then it lasted three days and I've heard nothing since.
	So you might want to keep your ear to the ground to hear if you hear any more on this.
	Well, you're in Canada, right?
	Yeah, I'd like to... I'm going to contact the CBC myself to try and find out if they have any more information on it.
	If you can get me a number?
	If you can get me a name?
	I have your fax number.
	You have their fax number?
	No, I have your fax number.
	Oh, my fax number.
	Okay, then.
	I can send you the information if I find something I'll show you.
	That's it to me, and I will immediately follow up.
	I thought you'd be interested in this story.
	Of course!
	I would even be willing to interview them from an oil company dungeon.
	All right.
	Well, I'll do a little digging and see if I can come up with any more information.
	And if anybody else listening knows any more about it, you know, call in.
	All right.
	All right.
	That's cool.
	Thank you very much.
	Sure.
	Of course, I would interview somebody like that or a pair of somebodies like that.
	But I fear for their safety, particularly in view of the fact that there has been no follow up.
	First time caller line.
	No, actually, weird line.
	You're on the air.
	Hello.
	Oh, hello, Art.
	Let me turn off the radio.
	Yes.
	Oh, yes, please.
	Thank you.
	Do that.
	Been enjoying it, and I'm so glad you're back.
	I missed you a lot.
	Well, I missed being here.
	Believe me.
	I'm weird because I've had these strange and psychic experiences in my life.
	And I don't know how weird you think they are, but they seem to have fallen into three or four categories.
	Like what?
	Well, OK, the categories are like whatever happened.
	A couple of past lives that I learned about when I was a kid.
	You've got to understand, I'm 54 years old and this is not just a hoot, but I really believe this about myself.
	In retrospect, these were past life experiences.
	Then I went through a period of some out-of-body type visioning things that turned out to happen.
	There's a spiritual nature, and there was a couple of prophetic dreams.
	I don't know.
	I've felt strange about it all my life.
	I don't think that's weird.
	It's not?
	No.
	Well, I mean, at least not in the context of my program.
	That's the norm.
	Actually, I... Now, people who eat glue, swallow rocks, collect toenails, that's weird.
	That's weird.
	That was a real kick in the... Can you imagine an entire coffee can full of toenails?
	I just wonder, you know, if that might not be a pollution problem in relationship to releasing mass amounts of athlete's foot into the atmosphere.
	Oh my God, I never thought about that.
	I hope he keeps it closed.
	You mean with the plastic lid on?
	Yeah, filled with wax preferably, you know.
	All right, thank you very much.
	No, psychic experiences cannot be considered weird on this program.
	They are the norm.
	Weird are some of the other things that we've heard about this morning.
	On my weird line, you're on the air.
	Good morning.
	Good morning, Art.
	How are you doing?
	All right.
	Where are you?
	I am calling from San Jose, California.
	Okay.
	KSFO country.
	Yes, sir.
	And glad to hear you're back from Egypt.
	Hope you had a good time.
	I did.
	And, uh, the reason I'm calling as a result is I am none other than the Great Satchitananda.
	The what?
	The Great Satchitananda.
	What, what is that?
	Well, I am a master in the Great White Brotherhood.
	Great White Brotherhood?
	Yeah, you haven't heard of that?
	Is that like some sort of racist thing?
	No, no, no, no, no.
	It's got nothing to do with that.
	Well, it sounds that way.
	I mean, Great White Brotherhood.
	Well, white in this case refers to the light.
	Oh!
	Okay, then why don't you call it the Great Light Brotherhood?
	Well, that's another good name for it, actually.
	I'd take that suggestion.
	The important thing is whatever people feel what it means.
	You know, that means the right thing, not what the words are.
	Are you like an offshoot of the Trilateral Commission?
	No, in fact, we're the reverse.
	The Trilateral Commission is a member of what we call the False Illuminati, the Eye on the Pyramid.
	But we are the pyramid in the eye.
	Well, wait a minute.
	You're the pyramid in the eye?
	That's right.
	There's two ways of looking at reality.
	Right?
	Either you feel that your being is contained within a physical reality, which is literally the eye in the pyramid, which is probably what you were when you went off to Egypt, right?
	You were the eye inside the pyramid.
	I was the eyes in the pyramid.
	I was even in the sarcophagus.
	Really cool.
	I've got a picture on the website.
	You know, I haven't gotten to that yet.
	As a matter of fact, I'm glad you mentioned that.
	Do you mind if I take a second out to tell everybody about something?
	I'd be delighted.
	There was a UFO that appeared over Las Vegas this last Friday.
	And I received a whole bunch of faxes and email about it.
	And finally somebody sent me a photograph.
	taken from a video shot of what appeared over Las Vegas and it's on my website right now.
	Thank you for reminding me.
	Anybody who wants to see what appeared over Las Vegas, it's at www.artbell.com.
	Thank you.
	Oh, you're welcome.
	Anyway.
	So the sarcophagus figures into this thing because the pyramid was an initiation place
	to show people that to transcend from becoming the consciousness, the being trapped inside
	physical reality, to get them to more or less die.
	When they died, not literally, but figuratively, they realized that all of physical reality
	is contained within consciousness.
	Actually the reverse.
	That's what I mean by the pyramid in the eye.
	How many people are in this, I presume it is a secret brotherhood?
	Well, it is a secret brotherhood, but it's not secret by virtue of the fact that we don't tell anybody.
	It's mostly secret by the fact that nobody will believe you when you tell them.
	That's what makes it so weird in the context of today's politics.
	See, now that's exactly how the Trilateral Commission flourishes.
	Well, the darkness always tries to emulate the light.
	But I mean, in a lot of ways, though your goals may be different, Uh, you sound a lot alike.
	Well, that's because the best disguise for the devil is his God, right?
	So you consider, well, I'm sure the people in the Trilateral Commission consider themselves to be light beings.
	They do, but there's one difference you can always tell them, Mark, which is they will always try to trap and control people and take away their freedom.
	We in the Great Light Brotherhood, taking your suggestion, will always try to bring people to themselves.
	Like, I'm not a guru.
	I may be a master, but I'm not a guru.
	I would never ask anybody to follow me, because you know what?
	You know this.
	Everyone recognizes the truth for itself when they hear it.
	Everyone always makes the judgment of truth by themselves.
	Do you guys have secret ceremonies and secret handshakes and stuff?
	Sometimes.
	Sometimes people get together, but not really.
	It's not really a brotherhood in the physical sense that we get together with meetings or whatever.
	But we know each other when we encounter each other and we talk to each other and we recognize the hallmarks.
	Okay, how would you recognize another brother?
	Well, one way to do it would be to talk to them for a while and if they tell me the great secret, the last secret, which is there's only one consciousness in the universe, not many, then I know right away.
	That it's a brother?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Well, that's cool.
	Thank you.
	Is that weird?
	Yeah, that's weird.
	Take care.
	You too.
	Bye.
	You know what you're hearing here?
	This is Cusco.
	It's from a Purimac 3.
	And guess what the name of this cut is?
	It's called Purump.
	It's called Pahrump, Big Water.
	Now I ask you, is that cool or what?
	From Big Water.
	From Opera Mac 3 by Cusco.
	Honoring my little town.
	You're listening to Art Bell, somewhere in time, on Premier Radio Networks.
	Tonight, an encore presentation of Coaster Coast AM from October 21st, 1997.
	This is a presentation of the new version of the song, which is called, The End of the World.
	The End of the World.
	you.
	You're listening to ArcBell, somewhere in time.
	Tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from October 21st, 1997.
	Here I am indeed, and we are doing what's called a weird line tonight.
	I'm doing this in preparation for becoming a judge.
	To be a judge.
	Because Strange Universe is going to have a contest to find the weirdest person in the world.
	And I already have several obvious contestants this morning, don't I?
	As I can see, this is going to be fun.
	No question about it.
	Here's a fax from somebody.
	Uh, hi Art.
	Just about everybody I know, including myself, thinks I'm weird.
	For example, my favorite desert dish, excuse me, dessert, is a vanilla ice cream with a rich topping of Pepto-Bismol and a couple of slices of pickle.
	Come on.
	I also prefer to drive my car in reverse rather than forward.
	And with deflated tires.
	What do you think of that?
	Regards from Merrick in Vancouver, B.C.
	You drive your car in reverse with deflated tires?
	Phew!
	Definitely abnormal.
	On my weird line, you're on the air.
	Good morning.
	Hi, Art.
	Hello there.
	That one broke me up.
	I'm so sorry.
	Yeah, I learned to do something a long time ago, and I talked you off air a little bit on it.
	Anyway, I can separate traffic, okay?
	And what I do is... The Los Angeles listeners are on now.
	Oh, of course.
	You can separate traffic?
	Yes, what I do is I learn to do this through a certain amount of meditation and incantation.
	And what I can do is I can separate them just by, you meditate first, and you do this over a study of a period of time.
	And for the Los Angeles listeners, this will be important to them.
	I used to work in Long Beach, and I used to go over to San Pedro area, okay?
	And that 405 over there is about ten lanes wide, anyway.
	And I was in a hurry, always, because I worked the night shift.
	And the traffic would just get out of my way.
	Just get out of my way.
	And when I go past a car, as an example, when I'm driving, let's say up to Santa Barbara, when I used to do that.
	I live in the Oregon Coast at this moment.
	But anyway, what I do is I get up near a car and they always pull back because I'm thinking that they're thinking that I am going faster than them.
	And the truth of the matter is I'm not.
	And what they do is they back off their throttle and I go right past them.
	And I'll tell you what, it works 90% of the time.
	So you induce in them.
	You bet.
	Absolutely.
	feeling that that you are really really going fast and they need to get out of
	your way and the thing is i stopped doing this and then the views
	your l a listeners will be able to verify this
	for the last four or five years i live in los angeles which is in the late
	late thirty seven early eighties There was eight shootings on the 405.
	You don't think you were responsible, do you?
	No, no, no.
	I'm not responsible, but I thought that maybe if I did this kind of thing and people didn't know what was going on, they might take a shot at me.
	But there's a better one than that.
	Now, this one is a little different, but it comes out the same.
	I can stop the rain now.
	Here is the kicker to that.
	This is done through emotion.
	Now, I won't say this is meditation.
	You can stop rain.
	Yes, I've done it.
	Well, then you are the answer to that famous question posed by Creedence Clearwater Revival.
	Remember that?
	Who will stop the rain?
	I'll tell you what, I could demonstrate it to you if you give me a reason to.
	No, this was the reason.
	Well, it doesn't rain enough here to make a good demonstration.
	But no, I seriously did this.
	Why I say I have 125 witnesses or thereabouts is I had a dear, dear friend that died, I feel, prematurely, and I was very, very upset and his wife, which was a dear friend of mine also, was very upset and it was a rainy, rainy day that they buried him, okay?
	Sure.
	And the thing is, I walked her back to the car.
	The thing is I felt so bad and the thing is I felt bad through the funeral because this was an outdoor funeral because we didn't have the money.
	It really was sad for me, still sad.
	Anyway, what I did is I talked to, call it God if you wish, but I wanted the rain to stop.
	I didn't want it to rain on her.
	He didn't matter.
	So I knelt by her in the car in the old M.A.Z. and so forth.
	During that period of time, it had stopped raining.
	I've done this twice and it was all over an emotional response from me, which is not the
	same as the parting of traffic.
	This was an emotional thing.
	No, I understand.
	I think I have the power to do it.
	This is a hell of a year for you because there is El Nino.
	You know what that is?
	Yeah, you bet I do.
	Hey, when I can go off the pier and catch tuna, and they get a marlin in Seattle.
	See, I live right up, well, you know what Coos Bay is.
	Of course, it's a lot of rain up there.
	Yeah, I live there.
	And the thing is, we're getting fresh tuna right off the bay here.
	And the thing is, tuna are usually 250 miles out.
	Okay, so that gives you an example of what's going on.
	And guess what?
	I live at a good position here.
	And I've been able to...
	There was a hurricane, a Class 2 hurricane came over here, and it did very little damage.
	And you take credit for that?
	No, no, I don't.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	Get it straight.
	I take credit for this house that I live in not to be damaged.
	I see.
	So in other words, you can have a personal localized effect.
	That is correct.
	And I wouldn't want to go any further than this.
	I am not God.
	I have a certain amount of power, and I've got it through my teachings and my learning.
	Well, that is, to most people, a little godlike.
	Well, yeah, well I think we're all part of that one that is.
	Anyway, there is only one, by the way.
	I think you know that already.
	Well, I know, but there's a little piece of him in all of us, I think.
	I do believe that.
	It's called, it's a thing of, I run a little group here, and I call it the Church of I Am.
	And what it means is I am God.
	And what I am God means is not an egotistical position.
	Am I also tax exempt?
	If you wish to be.
	Alright.
	I've got to run, sir.
	I appreciate your call and I appreciate your ability to be able to stop the rain.
	That's cool.
	I would like to see that demonstrated.
	Particularly on, you know, like one of those Steady, rainy days, where you know it's going to rain all day long.
	We get very few of them in the desert, but I would love to see a demonstration of that.
	Good morning, you're on my weird line and on the air.
	Good morning, Mr. Bell.
	Hi.
	It's a pleasure listening to your program, but I might qualify for the category that you've stated.
	You are?
	I might possibly qualify.
	In what way?
	I'm the only individual so far as I know in the world that has a system that I designed that's keeping me alive.
	An off-the-shelf hardware.
	I'm totally, 100% dependent upon pacemaker technology.
	Yes.
	Well, there aren't many people with pacemakers.
	Well, that's not the story.
	The thing is that out of the million or so in this country of pacemakers, about 250,000 are totally dependent Upon pacemakers.
	Yes.
	In other words, if one of the 50 or so parts, the component parts of the pacemaker malfunctions, they're dead.
	They're dead, yeah.
	So over the years, I had tried to come up with some means to find a way to build a redundancy system for those who are totally pacemaker dependent, such as myself.
	And I finally was able to do this in 1983.
	I had the system implanted And since that time, the system has kept me alive in one event when two pacemakers malfunctioned.
	And they malfunctioned in such a manner that they were firing intermittently to keep the heart going.
	Bad news.
	Bad news.
	So the point being is that I have just had my system rejuvenated, replaced in my state for the third time, except that this second time or third time on the system, the physicians refused to go ahead because they couldn't understand why you would need more than one pacemaker.
	So your idea, what you've done is to put two pacemakers in?
	This is correct.
	What I do is off-the-shelf hardware art, and we put in one pacemaker that runs at a steady rate that's called VVI.
	It runs at, let's say, 80 beats.
	That's the primary power source.
	The secondary backup unit is set to kick in at 45.
	If the If the main pacemaker or the primary unit malfunctions, or the lead should go bad, and it drops down below, once it hits 44, the backup unit comes on and kicks in.
	It will keep me alive long enough to get the main source replaced.
	I've got you.
	And you designed this yourself?
	Yes.
	Well, how did you get them to implant it into you?
	I had one heck of a time, Mark.
	You cannot imagine talking to physicians as an aerospace type.
	It's like talking to a brick wall.
	I had a very devil of a time getting this thing in.
	Right now I've got the secondary backup as I'm looking at a possible failure on the leads in the near future and I just came out of the hospital where they refused to replace the second backup unit.
	I understand.
	And they had me under anesthesia.
	It's a sticky thing but the really unfortunate thing is I have had this system implanted which is redundancy.
	Backups.
	Aircraft, as you know, we have three backups.
	We have, on the shuttle flights, we've got three power generators.
	One flight, two of them failed.
	Sure.
	So it seems incredible that it is so difficult to get the medical profession to realize that it's not a medical necessity, as they say, in having two pulse generators.
	It's a matter of redundancy or safety.
	Well, you know, with a pacemaker, of course, you cannot get near strong RF fields.
	Well, they have pretty well shielded that out.
	They put a couple of Zener's in these things.
	Zener?
	He's referring to Zener diodes, right?
	Yeah, right.
	I haven't had any problems.
	I've been in power generating plants and I've had no problem.
	Well, that's one thing, but an intense RF radio frequency field is something else again.
	Well, I imagine if you were an MRI, it might shut you down.
	Oh, an MRI.
	That would definitely do you.
	I think that might do it.
	But the main thing is, as far as I know at this time, I'm the only person in the world with a redundancy system.
	It's a shame I can't get the word out.
	Well, try getting it through the FDA.
	Good luck.
	Exactly.
	Good luck.
	But I'd say that anyone that has a backup system for essentially total function of heart operation would be considered unusual.
	Okay.
	Well, I wouldn't consider that weird, though.
	I would consider that to be A medical breakthrough.
	In other words, here is a man who has designed a backup that once the heart rate, which is supposed to be maintained at 80, drops to 40, the backup automatically kicks in, giving the doctors time to get another pacemaker in.
	He has designed his own backup system.
	Brilliant.
	On my word line, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Hi, Art.
	How are you?
	Okay.
	And welcome home.
	Thank you.
	Well, my word story isn't really weird.
	Well, then it doesn't qualify.
	Oh, no, but to me, I mean.
	I entertain past musical composers and writers in a non-commercial limousine.
	Huh?
	And they give me ideas.
	You mean, you mean like guys who have died?
	Yes.
	Oh, that's weird.
	Yes, and they give me ideas.
	You mean like the big famous ones like Beethoven?
	No, I'm with Marty Robbins.
	Marty Robbins?
	I don't know, you're kind of young.
	Oh, I remember Marty Robbins.
	Do you really?
	Of course, El Paso, Big Iron, I could name a lot of his hits.
	And then I had Rod Sterling, and I put together 26 minute teleplays.
	I wrote 40 of them.
	In black comedy type.
	Well, isn't that sort of plagiarism?
	Why?
	Well, I mean, like grave robbing?
	Well, but it's interesting.
	It is interesting, but I mean, you're taking ideas from dead people, aren't you?
	Don't you feel guilty about that?
	No.
	They come to me.
	Hmm.
	Using you as a conduit.
	I guess.
	And it's interesting, because it seems Well, it's not that unusual.
	Even the First Lady of this country claims to have counseled with Eleanor Roosevelt.
	Right?
	So I guess if she can do that, then you can entertain famous composers who give you lyrics and music.
	Yes.
	Well, for the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Good morning, Art.
	This is Dan in Virginia.
	Hi, Dan.
	Welcome back.
	It's good to be here.
	I have a couple of questions.
	Before I get into the questions, there was something that happened last night.
	I was listening to WRC here in Washington.
	And within 30 minutes, right in the middle of your program, they start running this emergency test.
	Oh, yes.
	And stations are required to do that every so often.
	Well, it's very unusual.
	Most of the time when they do that kind of a test, they do it during a break.
	Not in the middle of a program.
	Well, it depends.
	Sometimes it is an automated deal, and it just runs when it is told to run.
	I see.
	Okay.
	I was going to ask you, while you were in the pyramid, did you have any unusual sensations or expanded consciousness while you were inside?
	Yes.
	Would you mind?
	No, I will.
	Sure, I'll talk to you about it.
	All right.
	Please listen on the air there near our nation's capital.
	Yes, the answer is yes.
	And it occurred when I laid in the sarcophagus.
	There is actually a photograph of me laying in there.
	And let's see, how do I describe to you what I felt?
	I I spoke words when I was lying in the sarcophagus, and there was a resonance that I did not just hear, but I felt in every part of my being.
	I'm going to describe this the best way I can.
	I guess I've been waiting for somebody to ask that question.
	In every bone, in every fiber of my being, I felt a resonance occurring as I simply spoke.
	I heard the resonance, but more than hearing it, I felt it.
	Now, I don't know if this properly describes it, and I really, I just can't put the right words together to exactly describe to you what I felt.
	A deep, all-consuming resonance that I could feel in every fiber of my being.
	And that's the only way I can think of to describe it.
	And I have never in my life felt anything like that before.
	Now, It didn't lead to any out-of-body anything.
	However, given, for example, an entire night to go up there in the dark, with nobody else present, and to be able to lie in that sarcophagus, I can imagine that much more would occur.
	So I've done the best I can.
	That's what I felt.
	It didn't take me to any strange place.
	I didn't have an out-of-body experience or anything like that.
	But I did absolutely feel a resonance that was everywhere.
	And that's insufficient.
	I'm sorry, I can't do better than that, but that's the best answer I can give.
	First time caller line, you're on the air.
	Hi.
	Weird line, actually.
	Are you weird?
	No, I was talking about a carburetor.
	A carburetor?
	I heard on the radio a while ago, at least I'm listening on the tape, I've got a 100 mile an hour carburetor.
	Well, first of all, you've got your radio on, that's a no-no.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Number two, no, we were not talking, well, only in passing, there are a couple of guys who claim to have something real hot up in Canada, and I said, you've still got your radio on.
	I've got it off.
	You've got it off now.
	It's the old 100 mile per gallon carburetor story, you know, that's locked up somewhere in an oil company shelf.
	There's a bunch of designs.
	There's like 8 or 10 designs for the vapor carburetor or 100 mile carburetor.
	But I got one that's running on an engine.
	If you'd like to see it.
	Where?
	I live in Houston.
	So I'd have to come all the way to Texas?
	I can bring it to you.
	100 miles a gallon, huh?
	100 miles a gallon.
	In what kind of car?
	Uh, it's on a 350 Chevrolet motor.
	Really?
	I've been using 350.
	Now that should be normally a gas hot.
	Uh, yeah, well, some, uh, there's different, different Chevrolets, different Cupid N's.
	Some of them is, you know, bigger.
	And you have this?
	I have one.
	You have one?
	I have one sitting in my garage.
	I've been working on this stuff for about 25 years.
	Do you have any idea what the oil companies would do to you if they caught you?
	Uh, yeah, I know a friend of mine who was a fisher and lived in El Paso.
	He invented it.
	Michael Brown is selling them right now.
	The Venturi travels up and down.
	And they come up missing.
	So aren't you afraid of that?
	Well, I've got a shop and I've got some pretty mean old boys that hang around.
	Mechanics, you know.
	So if they get me, they get me.
	But the information will be out there.
	Well, I'm sure that's what they all thought.
	I mean, you're not the only one who's done this.
	Right.
	According to history.
	Right.
	According to history, this system has been around for a long time.
	You can go to the Patent Office in 1932.
	It was the first vapor carburetor built.
	So you would what?
	You would drive it out here and show it to me?
	Right now I've got it on a stationary engine.
	I'm building a generator right now so I can run it stationary.
	You're welcome to fly in there and I'll pick you up at the airport.
	Now I've got to go to Texas.
	Well, let me think about it.
	Send me some information on it.
	You never know.
	I might do it.
	Yeah.
	It'd make a good show.
	Ah, it would make a cool show.
	It's about, uh, there's at least, uh, I've got plans for at least seven different ones.
	All right.
	All right.
	I appreciate the call, sir.
	Thank you.
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air without much time.
	Hello.
	Hello.
	How you doing?
	I'm doing fine.
	Where are you?
	I'm... My name is Jeff, and I'm in Sacramento.
	Well, Jeff, uh... KST country, of course.
	You've only got time, Jeff... I know.
	...to get the honors, so you've got to do it.
	Okay, great.
	Well, go ahead.
	Okay, from the world, from the high desert, to the universe.
	Good night, everybody.
	That's it, Jeff.
	That's how it's done.
	From the high desert, indeed.
	From Jeff and from Art.

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