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Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell - Weird Person Line - Open Lines

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unidentified		Welcome to Art Bell Somewhere in Time, tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from October 21st, 1997.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		From the High Desert and the great American Southwest, I bid you all good evening or good morning as the case may be, and welcome to yet another edition, the second since I've returned of Coast to Coast A.M. live talk radio throughout the nighttime, largest live overnight talk show in America by country mile, stretching from the Asian and Hawaiian Islands in the west all the way east to the Caribbean, U.S. Virgin Islands, and more, south into South America, north to the Pole, and worldwide on the internet, this is Coast to Coast AM.
		Good morning, everybody.
		We are going to have open lines again tonight.
		Now, tomorrow night...
		I've got a very, very interesting piece of email, and I've booked a guest based on it.
		And I'll read you part of it now.
		Art, I'm a ham radio operator, and he gives me his call.
		And a former submarine communications officer.
		And I thought you might be interested in hearing some of the rather frightening things that occurred with military radio in the late 1980s.
		For example, a near-complete failure of the low-frequency radio systems used to communicate with SSBN subs that brought the world to the brink of nuclear war.
		This event and others were the primary reason why I left the military service as the potential for disaster became very clear to me.
		Are you aware, Art, there is a second Russian Mir space station in orbit.
		The station was in orbit as early as 1985, its whereabouts in space carefully tracked by the U.S. government, as it was dedicated to strictly military purposes.
		I would be willing to speak on your show, provided we could protect my identity.
		I am still bound by the top-secret SCI crypto clearances that I held while in the military.
		I will also be happy to establish my bona fide record to your satisfaction to prove that I am not some kind of nut.
		While not active in the military nor any other government anti-government movement, I can tell you I am highly suspect of many things the government is telling us with regard to communications and space.
		Please contact me if you're interested.
		He gives his name.
		So I did that, and he appears to be everything he says he is.
		It should be a rather interesting interview.
		That is a submarine communications officer tomorrow night.
		And I'll tell you more about tonight in a moment.
		Yesterday I welcomed some radio stations to the network.
		Well, I only got about halfway through the list.
		I didn't see the rest of the list.
		Yesterday we welcomed KBVI in Boulder, Colorado, WTIC in Hartford, Connecticut, WRKO in Boston, Mass, WPRO in East Providence, Rhode Island, WREL in Lexington, Virginia, WBLJ in Dalton, Georgia.
		But somehow I forgot to welcome KMAJ in Topeka, Kansas, KTBRFM in Coos Bay, Oregon, KFARAM in Fairbanks, Alaska, now carrying more of the program.
		KSCO in Santa Cruz, California, KSVP in Artesia, New Mexico, WSGWAM in Saginaw, Michigan KSMTFM in Breckenridge, Colorado KRKM-FM in Kremling, Colorado and KRKY in Granby, Colorado.
		So as you can see, while I was gone, the network was busily acquiring new affiliates, and who knows how many millions of people these stations alone cover.
		But that's a rather impressive gain, I would say, particularly for somebody who was off cruising around in the Mediterranean.
		Now, I have a complaint that I want to make at the top of the show.
		We can go to the moon.
		As we discussed on yesterday's program, we can apparently soon grow headless human bodies in order to harvest organs, clones, as it were, from you that could be grown to give you a liver or a heart or lungs.
		In other words, torsos only, without a head, without a brain.
		This is amazing science.
		Even a little scary as far as I'm concerned and perhaps ethically bent.
		We can do things the mind can barely grasp and we're not prepared to deal with ethically.
		And we still can't cure the common cold.
		Now, what is wrong with that picture?
		My answer is plenty.
		Plenty wrong with that picture.
		And I, of course, have a cold.
		So it brought it to mind.
		I mean, here we do these incredible, astounding things.
		We can't cure the common cold.
		Something's wrong with that picture.
		I was contacted earlier today by Strange Universe.
		We've got a pretty good relationship, and over some period of time, we have done a lot together.
		And they solicited my help in something they've got coming up called the Strange or Weird Person contest.
		They are trying to find the weirdest person in the world.
		Some figures they'd come to me, right?
		And I'm going to be a judge.
		They want me to be a judge.
		So they are going to collect information and have a contest to find the weirdest person in the world.
		And they are going to give, shower upon this person, prizes like bringing them to Los Angeles, that sort of thing.
		Treating them to this and that.
		You know, it's going to be a big contest.
		And I thought, who better to find a weird person than me?
		I've got them stacked up like cordwood out there.
		Now, I thought tonight I would steal their idea and try to find the weirdest person in the world myself.
		So I'm going to open a weird person line.
		If you think you're really, really weird, and I'm leaving the category very open because there's plenty of weird people out there.
		But if you think you fit into that category and you could be a winner, then you're going to want to call my weird person line tonight.
	At area code 7.
	So I'm going to be a judge, by the way.
	And I thought this might help me warm up.
	And you're going to, you know, obviously have to explain to us all how weird you really are and why you would deserve a prize.
	I'm not giving a prize.
	However, if you're really weird, then you can obviously enter the weird person contest that Strange Universe is about to have.
	Anyway, I thought it would be fun.
unidentified		Otherwise, in the news, let me see.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The IRS is due to be overhauled.
		They say they have tried this many times.
		The president now suddenly supporting it after a lot of Democrats decided they would.
		Though we shall see.
		President Clinton is poised to announce a new plan for the climate, for global warming.
		And I was watching the coverage of this earlier this night on CNN.
		And I thought it rather interesting that as they presented both arguments with regard to global warming, is it real?
		Is it just the figment of somebody's political agenda-driven imagination?
		Which is it?
		You know, both sides admitted there is a climate change underway.
		Even those who think that global warming is bunk are now admitting, well, yes, there does seem to be a climate change underway.
		And I've been saying this, as you well know, for some time.
		Now, one side, of course, wants to suggest it has nothing to do with global warming, that it's all a bunch of bunk.
		But they're admitting there is a climate change underway.
		The other side, of course, knows there's a climate change as well underway, but blames it on greenhouse emissions, you know, cars, the burning of fossil fuels, that kind of thing.
		But I just found it interesting that both sides now seem to agree a climate change is definitely underway.
		There is no question about it.
		None.
		A big breakthrough, they say, in electric automobiles, still, though, years away, you know, so you can go out and buy them.
		And my guess would be the big breakthrough in electric automobiles and the general availability to most of you out there is going to occur after or as we approach the actual finite limit of oil in the ground, fossil fuels in the ground.
		In other words, they are going to get an electric car just in the nick of time and not one minute sooner.
		And I was talking to a good friend of mine up in the Bay Area about this the other day, and we all know that at present rates of usage, which, by the way, are going to actually increase, we only have 40 or 45 years of oil left in the ground, and we all know that we can pull from the ground and use to drive our cars and engines and lubricate this and that.
		40 to 45 years.
		And he said, you know, a good subject for your show, One Night Art, might be to discuss what people think would happen in 40 or 45 years if we do not find a replacement for fossil fuel.
		And it is a very good question, isn't it?
		Airplanes would stop flying.
		Cars would stop driving.
		Commerce would come to a grinding halt.
		What do you think would happen to society?
		We would take a giant step backward.
		Wouldn't we?
		Could we?
		Do you think that there would be wars over the last remaining oil?
		Because as the reserves dry up, even those countries that produce in bulk now are going to use that oil selfishly, domestically.
		They're not going to sell it.
		Things are going to get very tight very quickly.
		And then I saw the business on the electric cars tonight, and I thought, hmm.
		I bet they come up with those in bulk at reasonable affordable rates just before we run out of oil which begs the question of course could they really be doing it right now and I would almost lay money on the answer that you bet they can.
		Well, why aren't they?
unidentified		Well, that's not hard to imagine.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's because there's a lot of big money involved in oil.
		And they're going to pull every single dollar out of oil they can until it's just about gone.
		And then there's going to be a revolutionary announcement.
		That's what I think.
		Anyway, I've got something I want to play for you in a moment.
		I promised I would dub down a couple of audio segments from Egypt, and I have done that.
		You are about to hear in a moment the voice of Zahi Hawass, and you are about to hear the two faces of Zahi Hawass coming up in a moment.
unidentified		The End Let me tell you what we're going to do right now, all right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		When I was in Egypt, I first met with Dr. Zahi Hawass.
		Dr. Hawass is the Director of Antiquities at Giza.
		In other words, he maintains and is in charge of the research, the archaeology that goes on, the digging, such as it is, around the Sphinx, the Great Pyramids, and all of the associated relics and things at Giza, which is an incredible, incredible place.
		Now, I'm going to let you hear a couple of things.
		It's really a shame, and I only very occasionally wish I had television because I have video to go with what you're about to hear.
		What I did was dub the following down from my video camcorder.
		So let me sort of give you an idea of what you're going to hear.
		The first is, yesterday, you may recall I told you there was a five-ton piece of granite that I saw one man, one man with a sledgehammer break very precisely in half.
		I mean, it was unbelievable.
		A guy took a sledgehammer and went to work on a five-ton piece of granite, pure granite, and split that sucker right in half like he had, you know, like a knife going through butter.
		It was amazing.
		Now, I've got the audio from that, and then Zahi comments afterwards.
		You've got to listen, you know, listen very carefully.
		But here is just a few days ago in Egypt.
		Here's a man going to work on a five-ton piece of granite.
unidentified		and carefully to the following.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh my gosh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He's pounding away on that granite.
unidentified		i didn't think he was going to do it Is he getting ready to split that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Then you'll hear Zahi Awas.
unidentified		Zahi Awas.
		Wow.
		That's exactly what I want to show to you.
		Wow.
		People always say how Egyptians can cut stones.
		Yes.
		That's exactly what they are the descendants of the ancient Egyptian.
		And this is what I tell people.
		If you only understand how this pyramid was built, come to me and I will show you how it's built.
		This man cut five tons and a stone in two minutes.
		And how they hold it, we have the same method of the ancient Egyptian to move the stone.
		And it's, you know, we have many things to do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, there was the first segment I wanted to play you.
		Now, obviously, the video attendant with that audio shows this guy with a sledgehammer splitting precisely down the middle a five-ton piece of granite.
		One man, five tons, two minutes.
		It was a mind-blower.
		And you should see the video.
		The rock simply parts in the middle, and that's the end.
		It was a total mind-blower.
		Now, what I'm going to play for you when we come back from the break is the actual trek that we were making up the Great Pyramid.
		And believe me, it's a huffer and a puffer.
		It's really something trying to get up to the top of the Great Pyramid, up to the king's chamber.
		And I was directly behind Zahi Hawas.
		Zahi had no idea my camcorder was running while we were making that trek.
		So when we come back in a moment, I'm going to play you a little bit of audio from this videotape that will reveal the other side of Zahi Hawas coming up next.
unidentified		You're listening to Art Bell Somewhere in Time on Premier Radio Networks, tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from October 21st, 1997.
		Thank you.
		You'll listen to Mark Bell somewhere in time.
		Tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast A.M. from October 21st, 1997.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We're going to try to find the weirdest person in the world tonight.
		I'm best equipped to do that, obviously.
		You know, I was just talking to my wife before I played this next audio clip.
		I was just talking to my wife.
		And I was telling her what I just said about the common cold.
		And she said, she said something very wise.
		She said, have you ever considered how profitable the common cold is?
		She's right.
		Cough syrup.
		Every kind of cold remedy you can imagine.
		Go into the grocery store and look.
		It takes up nearly an entire aisle.
		Cold remedies all over the place.
		Tissue paper.
		I've already gone through about two boxes of tissue paper with this cold.
		By the way, now my wife is catching it as well.
unidentified		So she's absolutely correct, isn't she?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Like the oil in the ground that I think is going to continue to come from the ground until it is no longer profitable to bring it from the ground, and then it'll be time to, you know, do something ecologically more friendly.
		The dollar is driving that, and the dollar is driving the common cold.
		In other words, we probably still have the common cold because it is incredibly profitable.
		She is exactly right on the money.
		And now, from Pastor Bradley, Dear Art, have you heard about the big fuss that Janet Reno is stirring up with Microsoft?
		Oh, yeah.
		Big fine.
		Million bucks a day.
		She's claiming they're violating anti-monopoly laws, wants them to pay a million dollars a day until they cease.
		Could it be another ploy to distract us from other investigations?
		Well, yes.
		It could.
		But I rather thought the best way for Microsoft to solve their problem would be to simply put a copy of Netscape in each new Windows 95 or 96 or whatever it is they're coming out with next, as well as their own browser.
		And that'd be the end of that.
		I would think that people at Netscape would be happy about that.
		And I would think that it would be a good solution.
		People can use whatever they want.
		Well, listen, we'll get to this second audio clip in a second.
unidentified		Pshhhhhh!
		Pshhhhhh!
		Thank you.
		you All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, what I am going to play for you, you're going to have to listen very carefully because it was a noisy environment.
		I went up inside the Great Pyramid.
		A great pyramid.
		Going up to the king's chamber where the sarcophagus is, the one I actually laid down in.
		That's a whole other story.
		But on the way up, it's a very long, hot, difficult trek with a lot of people.
		Zahi Awass, the director of Antiquities at Giza, was directly ahead of me.
		And I don't think he knew that I had the camcorder running.
		Now, I was huffing and puffing, and you will hear me very much out of breath, along with everybody else that was making the climb.
		But Zahi is directly in front of me.
		And Zahi, when I first met him, of course, was an extremely cordial, extremely, seemingly open man, a very even-tempered man, I might add.
		Very even-tempered.
		You know, when I was in his office, it was all smiles, and he was just glad-handing me and seemed to be a very, very nice man.
		But I had the camcorder running as we were making the climb up inside the Great Pyramid to the King's Chamber.
		And you will hear Zahi, if you listen very carefully, you will hear him saying things to the tourists that were in front of us, like, I am the director of antiquities here.
		I'm the director of this whole place.
		Move, move!
		So listen very carefully and see if you're able to hear that.
		It comes now.
		this is again as we were climbing uh...
unidentified		the great pyramid a yes Yeah, yeah, yeah.
		I'm the director of this.
		I need everyone to take a side, align and go!
		No, go!
		Let me go!
		Let me go!
		No, no, no, no.
		Listen to me, listen to me.
		Please.
		I'm scared, you have to take my time.
		I'm the director of this place.
		Everyone behind, hide, hide in.
		Come on.
		Quick, quick.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, anyway, that was it.
		That was Zahi directly in front of me, and you could hear me huffing and puffing.
		That was a real very serious climb.
		But as Zahi climbed in front of me, he was getting very annoyed, very annoyed with the people in front of him.
		So I thought I would play that little audio clip.
		And here is one more.
		This particular clip, again with everybody huffing and puffing as we're marching all over the place, Is right at the side of the Sphinx.
		At the side of the Sphinx, there is a large hole which has gone down X number of meters.
		That Baval and Hancock, in fact, you will hear Zahi mention Baval and Hancock, who think that Zahi is hiding something.
		And he mentions Baval and Hancock and disclaims, says there's absolutely nothing down here.
		So here's that audio clip.
unidentified		It opened in 1926 by Monsieur Barais, during the restoration of this place.
		And I have a slide and a photograph showing people inside this place.
		Then about a few months ago, a year ago, I announced that we're going to open this shot.
		Then Hancock and Bofan everywhere don't get him to open because you're going to find something and you'll hide it.
		There's nothing there because it has been opened before.
		There's been an impact.
		And you will not hide it, huh?
		Huh?
		How would you hide it?
		And why would we hide it?
		They think maybe you'll sneak it out in the middle of the night, but you won't, would you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Come on.
unidentified		Give me one reason.
		Why do you discover something?
		Here you will hide it.
		If you discover something here, all your bulb is in there.
		No.
		You think what they say doesn't make any sense.
		Why do you hide this?
		Why?
		It would be something to the whole world.
		Yes.
		There is no reason.
		Your purpose is here is to expose it to the world.
		Exactly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do you think might be down there?
unidentified		In my opinion?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Your opinion.
unidentified		The mystery?
		Nothing.
		But you better tell the people that we hope that something can be discovered.
		Let's give the people hope.
		The people need hope.
		But in my opinion, for someone who studied every piece of sand in this area, I know there is nothing in this except intelligent.
		It's what we do.
		There is no one single artifact or a piece of sand has been found in the plateau to prove the existence of plant.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Of Atlantis.
unidentified		All that is covered that you will see from this moment to the end of your trip is something we will cover every day.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Alright, well there you were.
		That was Zahi at the aside of the Sphinx, suggesting there had been nothing found, and certainly nothing found to prove the existence of Atlantis.
		And he made reference to Baval and Hancock.
		So I've got many, many more like that, but I will not play them for you now.
		I just wanted to give you a kind of a taste of what the sound was like.
		And of course, I have a videotape, and I have video to go with all of this, and it makes a lot more sense when you're able to see the video.
		And this is the one time I wish this was TV and not radio.
		I've got a lot of very good and interesting video.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
		Hello?
unidentified		Hello?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, hello.
unidentified		Hello, this is Mike from Houston.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Mike.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		I was just curious about the other night when you had the guy on Dreamland about the OBE experience.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes, uh-huh.
unidentified		Yeah, I've had that same feeling, but I've never, where you get the vibration and you feel like all this energy when you're about to fall asleep.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is what occurs just prior to an OBE if you let it happen.
unidentified		And I'm afraid to let it happen, just like you said.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that makes two of us.
unidentified		I'm still afraid to, even after his reassurances.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I can't reassure you because I'm afraid to do it myself, so I can't help you out.
		All I can say is, I guess what you would want to do is get his book and see if that convinces you and give it a try.
		My fears range all over the place from, and nobody has ever satisfactorily answered this for me, millions of people around the world die in their sleep.
		Well, they have not yet come back to tell us what it is they died of, why they died.
		And I've always wondered, how do we know that a bunch of people out of their body didn't suddenly get disconnected and die?
unidentified		That's kind of what I'm afraid of, too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So until I get the answer to that and a couple of other things, I'm not likely to let go.
unidentified		And the other thing that's been happening is the Tao's hum in the ear.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Is that related?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No.
		No, no, no, no.
		The Tao's hum is a hum that's coming from the earth itself.
		It has nothing to do with what you feel prior to an OBE.
		The Tao's hum is coming from underground.
		And I have no idea what it is.
		Do you?
		Underground machinery?
		Perhaps an underground civilization of some kind.
		Perhaps the government digging holes from one place, tunnels from one place to another.
		I have no idea.
		We have something similar to the Tal's home in my little valley here.
		What is it?
		Nobody knows.
		On my weird person line, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Good morning, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		You know what is really, really, really weird?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I beg your pardon?
unidentified		What's really weird?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You, I would imagine.
unidentified		Yeah, well, that's secondhand.
		Is calling this line, and I've been disconnected so many times for saying that I can't get through after getting busy signal, busy signal, and then all of a sudden it rings, and then you don't answer.
		That's weird.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, it isn't.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's normal.
unidentified		It is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's the way it works for everybody.
unidentified		It does.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Well, I find everything.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, okay, well, you're through now.
unidentified		What?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're through now.
unidentified		Yeah, I am.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you're on the air.
unidentified		Okay.
		Oh, I am.
		Oh, you know what's wrong with the picture?
		No cure for the common cold?
		What?
		Big money.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's what my wife just said.
unidentified		Yeah, she did.
		She's right.
		They don't care.
		They got the big money.
		They wanted all those cold decongestants.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, look, you go, all right, thank you.
		You go to the supermarket, I said it a minute ago, and you look up and down the aisle, and entire aisles are devoted to various things.
		Expectorants to make you hack up whatever is down there.
		Many, many, many cold cures that promise varying degrees of relief from 4 to 12 hours, which sort of work, but in my opinion, probably drag colds out.
		Aspirin, every manner of just hundreds and hundreds of products that serve you when you get a cold.
		And then, of course, there's the suspicious flu season.
		Have you ever noticed?
		They know exactly when it's coming on TV.
		They'll say something like, the flu season is here, and you'll start to see advertisements for things that will relieve symptoms of the flu.
		And sure enough, what comes along?
		The flu!
		And I've had these dark thoughts over the years of, you know, executives, vice presidents perhaps, of flu company medicine, flu medicine company, large companies sort of stealing out in the night, no doubt, in black suits with little vials that they're dumping in reservoirs.
		I'm sure that's not really true, but I've thought of it.
		Well, Jack, here is strain A. Here's Asian strain A, Jack, and it's your job to go put it in the reservoir this year.
		You're the new guy.
		And of course, then they coordinate their ads on TV for the flu medicine, and sure enough, everybody gets the flu.
		Wildcardline, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hello, I'm calling from Nashville, Tennessee.
		Well, good.
		The comment I would like to make tonight is if you look at the UPC barcode of anything you buy in the store, you can see at the beginning there are two skinny lines.
		And in the middle, there are also two skinny lines.
		And at the end, also.
		And each of those skinny lines represents a number.
		And the number is 6.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		6, 6.
unidentified		Yeah, I don't know if you've ever heard that or not.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Number o' the beast.
unidentified		Yeah, and I've heard that they have technology that, you know, you can put it in your palm of your hand.
unidentified		And so it's stated in the Bible somewhere that without the 666, you won't be able to buy or sell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's what it says, yes.
unidentified		And so I just thought you've probably heard that already by, yes.
unidentified		But there might be a listener out there who hasn't.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, do you have an implant yet?
unidentified		Oh, no.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you going to get one?
unidentified		No, not if I can help it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you won't be able to help it.
unidentified		They'll have to put me under first.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, they will.
		They'll put you under.
		They'll strap you down.
		They'll open up your palm.
		And when you wake up, you'll be chipped.
unidentified		Uh-oh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's how it's going to work, you know?
unidentified		I hope not.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Take care.
unidentified		Thank you for taking my call.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you're welcome.
		Take care.
		Oh, yes.
		Number O the Beast.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
		Hi.
		Hello.
		This is Ron calling from Michigan.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		And I just...
		You're probably tired of hearing that by now.
		It's good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm not.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I was gone long enough.
unidentified		It's really good to be back, believe me.
		I'm pretty much new to your show.
		Okay.
		While you were gone, I was pretty much hearing the best of what you put out.
		And it inspired me to go out and pick up the book, you know, The Quickening.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		And my first sitting, I went through probably 95 pages.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		And I couldn't put it down.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's, you know, I've had a lot of success with the book.
		It is now number four on the New York Times business bestseller list.
		I'm really very happy.
		I'll tell you a little secret about that book.
unidentified		What's that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I wrote a first book, which was called The Art of Talk, and that was about me and about talk radio and blah, blah, blah, with a lot of photographs, and it was basically an autobiography.
		This book, The Quickening, it's not one of those things like I decided to just sit down and write it.
		I'm going to write a book, and here's my idea.
unidentified		this one just poured out of me i mean it just Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		See, that's exactly right.
		And what I did with this book, and here's why I did that.
		For a couple of years now, two or three years, I've been talking about the quickening.
		And people would come back to me when I talk about it, and they'd say, you're full of it.
		There's nothing real to what you're saying.
		Yes, it feels that way, but you know, it's just because there's a lot of mass communication today, and we're hearing about these things more and more.
		And I would tell people, no, it's absolutely real.
		And so when I sat down to write the book, I felt an obligation to lay out the proof so it would be absolutely undeniable.
		That's why you see all those footnotes.
unidentified		Okay, I wanted to make one point and pretty much leave the air open for someone else.
		Go ahead.
		I read a book by Stephen King when I was a teenager, and it just gave me goosebumps.
		And this was a work of fiction.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Which one?
unidentified		The Stand.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, The Stand.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I love that book.
unidentified		And reading yours in conjunction with the books I've read, the Bible and all that, it's like it's not fiction.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know.
unidentified		You know what I'm saying?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do I know what you're saying?
		I wrote the book.
		Yes, I know what you're saying.
		Of course, it's not fiction.
		I'm going to be doing my one big book signing for The Quickening.
		It's going to be this Saturday, 10 o'clock Saturday morning.
		I hope I will see you there.
		We'll be right back.
unidentified		The oldest Indiwork Bells, Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from October 21st, 1997.
		The oldest Indiwork Bells, Somewhere in Time.
		The oldest Indiwork Bells, Somewhere in Time.
		Premier, Radio Networks presents Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight's program originally aired October 21st, 1997.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, as I said earlier on Strange Universe, I got a call actually from Strange Universe earlier today, and they're going to have a weird-person contest.
		And so I thought I would get the jump on them and see how I could do in that category, knowing that I have lots of you in that category out there, and I have one contestant on the line right now.
		And I pre-screened his call a little bit, so I can tell you it's pretty weird.
		At any rate, here he is.
		Let's see how weird he really is.
		Hello there.
unidentified		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Would you consider yourself weird?
unidentified		I don't think of myself as weird on a moment-to-moment basis, but every so often, if I'm able to step back far enough from the forest to see the trees, I would have to be considered weird, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, even though you might not consider yourself weird, is it reasonable that other people would consider you weird?
unidentified		Completely and totally reasonable.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		What is it you do?
		This is not what's my line, but I mean on a day-to-day basis, to put it at its weirdest, I take Call us toll-free at 1-800-618-8255.
		Do that is because I'll crank it up.
		We're going to have to be a little careful.
		I mean, I'm not Howard Stern.
unidentified		I understand.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, I'm open-minded, but I'm not Howard.
unidentified		We're professionals.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We are.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And so we're going to have to do this tastefully, if possible.
unidentified		All right.
unidentified		I handle the constant barrage of questions related to a device called the Venus II personal comfort system for men, and also another device called Sibian.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let's get these straight.
		The Venus 2.
		Is that correct?
unidentified		That's correct.
unidentified		The Venus 2 personal comfort system.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Personal Comfort System for Men.
unidentified		and the city which is a uh...
		a comparable device made for ladies which in these devices These are orgasmic machines.
		And they are not toys.
		These are devices that are made to the standards of quality, durability, and safety that are much more closely related to medical or therapeutic or clinical devices.
		The Sibian is $1,400.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		$1,400.
unidentified		Well, it can be had for around $1,250, but I'm just...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		you discount occasionally?
unidentified		We do offer discount offers.
		The Venus II sells for $10.95, but it can be had for around $9.50.
		I'm not trying to hawk them, but it is a very peculiar...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And they're made to last the lifetime of the owners.
unidentified		And all day long, I take questions from individuals who, through one means or another, have heard about the devices and their calling either to buy or to ask questions.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so you manufacture machines that produce orgasms.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Machines.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, as a matter of absolute curiosity, what got you started in this?
unidentified		In this working class in particular.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
unidentified		Well, that's a good question.
		I was managing a nightclub in Chicago, and Chicago has some very unusual standards about gentlemen's clubs.
		And the club was closed due to a parking.
		We had insufficient spaces for cars, if you can believe that that was the real reason.
		And simultaneous with that, a local newspaper, a Chicago Reader, published an article about a fellow who was the original engineer inventing the Venus II.
		And I called to congratulate him because that particular issue had been picked up from the distribution points faster than any other issue in the 20-year history of that newspaper.
		And I had put in about 10 years in medical marketing, once for plastic surgeons, another time for a renowned eye doctor.
		And to make a long story short, what I do is not too dissimilar from medical marketing, because as you stated, we have to be professional.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I can certainly understand that, for example, there would be a definite use for that machine in, say, a sperm bank.
unidentified		I'm sorry?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There would be a definite use for that machine in, say, a sperm bank.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right?
unidentified		That makes sense.
unidentified		Certainly, we've sold a few, but because of the age that we live in, there's a lot of people who, either, let's say in the case of men, who do not have access to ladies or who think that they don't, which amounts to the same thing, and who are afraid to take care of those matters the way people did 50 years ago or maybe even 15 or 20 years ago or 10 years ago.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And then, of course, there's safe sex and AIDS and all the rest of that, too.
unidentified		And some people feel that as men age and it is inevitable that they're going to be confronted with prostate problems.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
unidentified		And many doctors feel that if those matters Aren't taken care of, that can accelerate the point in time when someone is confronted with that difficulty.
unidentified		And also, this is, I think, it qualifies both as weird and also as beneficial, but the Venus II can produce and deliver orgasms even for men who are impotent.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
unidentified		In other words, it functions, it doesn't have to be operating on something that's rigid.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What made you decide to call it the Venus II?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, Venus was associated with love, I suppose.
unidentified		It was already called the Venus II when I came on board.
unidentified		I didn't invent this, but I did have the personal comfort system for men because it has to be a way of describing it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How about I thought of, while I was just sitting here thinking during the news, I thought of the Orgasmatic.
unidentified		Well, Orgasmatron is one of the names that are copyrighted.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, copyrighted yet, huh?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, sure.
unidentified		Are these large machines physically?
		Venus 2 comes in its own carrying case that's about the size of a large briefcase.
		However, we're coming out with a next generation unit in the spring, and it would fit in a shoebox.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A shoebox?
		Wow.
		Now, how are these items marketed?
		I mean, you don't go door to door, and, you know, like the vacuum cleaner salesman, you know, yes, hi, ma'am.
		I want to show you our.
unidentified		We put reasonably discreet ads in some of the better adult magazines, and also occasionally I'll do a press release and we generate interviews.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How's the market?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, are sales brisk?
unidentified		They're very consistent.
		I would say that each week we sell between 15 and 25 units.
		And we're so confident about the quality of the product and the effectiveness of the product that they're sold on the basis of a 45-day trial period.
		So if for any reason someone buys one of these and they decide this isn't worth it or this isn't what I had in mind or it's not for me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Then you give the money back?
unidentified		We do.
		You do?
		We do not take any part of the unit back that comes into physical contact.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, see, I was about to ask for that.
unidentified		No, we take back the power and control unit, and we refund all of their money except for $125.
		So if I can do that mathematically, a person could buy one of these units, and if they returned it, basically they spent $125 to keep it for a month and a half.
		There's a store in California that rents them for $150 a week.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Rents them?
unidentified		Yes.
		Uh-huh.
		But you buy your own attachment.
		You're connected to it by a pneumatic.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I think I understand.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How do your friends and family react when you explain the kind of business you're in?
unidentified		My family is mortified.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're mortified?
unidentified		Yes.
		My friends know me, and it's not a problem of any kind, but my family was a little mortified.
		Well, pretty much so.
		Well, everybody has their own family.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you're definitely in a unique business.
		No question about it.
		Do you see a big future for your product?
unidentified		Absolutely.
		One of the first press release I did, somehow the Bloomberg Financial Wire picked it up.
		And I would say we got at least 400 calls from stockbrokers, commodity brokers, bankers, insurance men.
		And I predict that we will take the company public on the Internet.
		Wow.
		And I think it'll cook.
		I know that's worked for micro breweries, for example.
		And also, the next generation Venus 2 will be more powerful.
		The maximum speed will be higher.
		The minimum speed will be lower.
		It's so quiet that we have to put an on-off switch, I mean an on-off light on it so that it's not accidentally left on all night.
		And the new price will be in the $500 range.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's probably a lot quieter than its user.
unidentified		Yes.
		Well, we haven't solved that problem yet.
		And there's another problem.
		I am here to tell you about the Reach Out Wireless Link Up and Lifeline program.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There's that.
unidentified		I'm a congressional mandate.
unidentified		The Federal Universal Service Fund supports the Lifeline and Link Up program.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Does it offer its user a cigarette?
unidentified		No, but that would be a very good accessory.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Listen, on a scale of 10, I think you qualify as roughly an 8.
unidentified		Thank you.
		I appreciate that.
		And may I just say, so that you're not inundated, and I'm not asking to give a phone number, but can I say what city we're in, so if people want to call information, they could?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, sure.
		I've got to give you that.
		Sure.
		What city are you in?
unidentified		The name of the company is ABCO Research, ABCO.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		And we're in Monticello, Illinois.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		I appreciate your call, and you definitely qualify as an 8 out of 10 on the scale of weirdness.
		Now, what I am doing this night, because I got a call earlier from Strange Universe today, and I can already see I'm on the right track here, and they're going to have a weird contest, the weird person contest.
		And that man definitely qualifies as an entrant.
		As a matter of fact, he really should enter the Strange Universe contest.
		And I thought, who better qualified to go out and find strange and weird people than me?
		And I can assure you, before the night is over, you will definitely agree with me.
		I do like the Orgasmotron as a name.
		The world is changing before our very eyes.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
		Yeah, hi, Art.
		This is Ken in Las Vegas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Ken.
unidentified		Welcome back.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		You know, one of my favorite guests that you have on your show is David John Oates.
		And, you know, most of the time he's been really good, been very accurate in doing the reversals.
		However, my friends and I, who are very serious reverse speech people, have to take issue with his findings regarding that Area 51 Caller who allegedly knocked you off the air.
		I want to tell you that from my reversals, and I've got the tape, and I'm willing to sit down with you and also take on Mr. Oates to challenge Mr. Oates.
		I can tell you that from the reversals, that caller staged, that call was staged.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Mr. Oates, when he said he was- Well, what reversal do you have that would prove that?
unidentified		Well, he says, Well, when he says what we're talking about is aliens, Arthur, in reverse, he says, there are no aliens.
		I want to get through.
		He said things like, instead of feel the heat, he said, heal the feet.
		He said stuff, there are lives.
		He said, I'm serving it on a ham hock.
		That's me bull blanking it.
		And I caught some reversals on you.
		And a lot of people out there, a lot of serious-minded people, world-class people could confirm it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, listen, I'm open.
		Here's what you ought to do.
		Send me, if you're unable to play them in quality as David can on the phone, then send me a tape of the reversals, and I'll play them on the air.
unidentified		All right.
		Well, I put it on a bulletin barge on the Fido, the Rhyme Net, and absolutely temporary.
		And I put my findings on the bulletin board.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, better yet, though, because not only a very small percentage of people can get up there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If you really want it heard, send it to me, and I'll play it on the air.
unidentified		Okay, if you want, but you've got the tape yourself.
		I mean, you've got the tape.
		I could tell you what I heard from it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, no, I want to hear the reversals.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		So what do you want me to do?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Send the reversals to me on tape.
		It's not such a good idea grabbing them off real audio because of the quality.
		So to broadcast it, send it to me on a tape and I'll broadcast it.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		I want to know what Mr. Oates' response is going to be.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How about if I and Mr. Oates together, we'll look again, send me the reversals.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If they're clear, then and you really want to get David on and challenge him, we can even do that, but I've got to hear them first.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		We'll do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		I'll look for them.
		And you know me, I'm willing to do just about anything.
unidentified		Ah!
		Thank you.
		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Back we are now.
		I am taking calls from people who are weird.
		Now, you have to really qualify as weird, much like that last guy did.
		Can you imagine that?
		As a living, building machines that produce orgasms?
		Machines?
		Ah, welcome to the brave new world.
		On my international line, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Good morning, Mr. Bell, and welcome back.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, thank you.
		Hold on a minute.
		Hold on just a sec.
		Let me try and get rid of this echo.
		We've got some echo on there.
		Let's see if that gets rid of it.
		Okay, I think that's a little bit better.
		Where are you located?
unidentified		I'm calling from Quebec City, Canada.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ah, Quebec, Canada.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Capital of separatism, like you said, Orange.
		Yes.
		I always like to speak about time travel because it really interests me a lot, okay?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Me too.
unidentified		Okay, you had a caller on once you open the timeline?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		I was wondering.
		You had one you said he was watching the inventor of the time machine.
		You remember that one?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I do.
unidentified		Okay.
		That one sounded pretty credible to me.
		The other one who sounded pretty credible is that pilot who claims that he went back in 1932 to Operation Southern Cross.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		I don't even know if that operation actually exists.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't either.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But he did sound good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I agree.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		And maybe another timeline some night before Christmas?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, sure.
unidentified		Okay.
		And one last thing.
		What is the alternate states of America?
		I wondered, it sounds to me like another dimension or another timeline.
		What do you think?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The alternate states of America.
unidentified		What is it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		No, but if there is another timeline, you know, a parallel dimensional universe, then it's entirely possible.
		But I doubt they would call themselves the alternate states of America.
		They would call themselves the United States of America, but it might be a very different U.S. Okay, talk to you later.
unidentified		Thank you very much.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, take care.
		In other words, the name alternate states of America would clearly imply they understood they were an alternate to something else, to us.
		And since they wouldn't have that knowledge, they wouldn't be the alternate states.
		They would just be the U.S. like we are here.
		But the structure might be entirely different.
		For example, their Alan Greenspan might like the market going up and up and up.
		On my weird person line, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		How are you doing, Art?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm doing fine.
unidentified		I've been classified as being a weird guy.
unidentified		I'll go by the name Gazuki.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Gazuki?
unidentified		Gazuki.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Gazuki.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why and in what way are you weird?
unidentified		Well, I come up with all kinds of strange ideas.
unidentified		One of them is a parasail city supported by several mile-wide, a few miles long parasails that would support an ultralight city.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		An ultralight city?
unidentified		I just got done doing 400 upside-down push-ups, so I'm rather tired.
unidentified		You can hear my breath.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		400?
unidentified		Yeah, well, I spread them out through the day.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, I know what an ultralight is, but how would you have an ultralight city?
unidentified		You'd simply strap a sail together until you had a very, very, very, very big parasail in the middle.
		You'd put the main weight, which would be the city.
		And then to go on from there.
		And also, you could position these ultralight cities to get rid of pollution because they would create their own pressure zones.
		And in stagnant pollution-ridden cities, they would kind of bring a little wind to the city.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, they would require, well, I guess they would, wouldn't they?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, they'd be under power.
unidentified		Exactly.
unidentified		And also, I guess.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you could, for example, fly them over Los Angeles on a smoggy day and blow the smog away.
unidentified		That's right.
		That's exactly right.
		I've also seen nine UFOs, four of which, in my opinion, were driven by something other than human.
		I've invented things like the spider leg vehicle.
		Arms and legs fit into independent suspension slash suit.
		In other words, you put the vehicle on like a spacesuit.
		And all your arms and your legs, they fit into the independent axles, which have tires on each end.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, well, I think I've got the picture, and I'm giving you a 5 out of 10 on the weird scale.
		Keep at it, sir.
		This is Coast to Coast AM.
unidentified		You're listening to Art Bell Somewhere in Time on Premier Radio Networks, tonight an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from October 21st, 1997.
		The End
		The End
		You're listening to Art Bell Summer in Time on Premier Radio Networks, tonight's an onboard presentation of Poster Post AM from October 21st, 1997.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm holding open one line for weird people, and I really mean weird, not just little weird.
		You've got to be very weird.
		Anyway, that line is normally my first time caller line.
unidentified		Sounds of the wind
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, a fact here.
		Art, will you allow Hancock and Baval to reply to Hawass's statements?
		I'm sure you agree.
		That would only be fair.
		Welcome home.
		Get well.
		Thank you.
		Yes, of course I would allow Hancock and Baval on to counter the statements made by Zahi Hawas.
		Of course I would.
		So if anybody out there wants to contact them and let them know that I have issued an invitation for them to respond, they're more than welcome to come on the air.
		On my weird person line, you are on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Good morning, Arkbel.
		As you know, I've pre-talked to you.
		I have an extremely rare RH factor, which is RH equal, and I have documents to prove this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've never heard of it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		RH, I know about RH positive, I guess it is.
unidentified		And RH negative.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Negative.
unidentified		Well, I'm holding in my hand a document done by the U.S. military that states RH equal, RH factor equal.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What does that mean?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, does that mean that you would be compatible with both blood types or you would be not compatible with either one?
unidentified		Well, being RH equal, you know, a positive and a positive equals equal, right?
		I mean, equals positive.
		A negative and a positive equals a negative.
		So, you know, by the laws of physics and in nature, Rh equal, I guess, you know, a negative and a negative would equal a negative.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		And a positive and a positive would equal positive.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		So actually, actually, my blood type, I could actually donate my blood type to either a negative or a positive.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Have they tried it?
unidentified		That I don't know, but I do know that the human genome has been completely mapped back in the 1950s, and I have the name of a doctor and some phone numbers that actually cloned a human in the early 1970s.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know what?
		I don't doubt that.
		We were talking about that yesterday extensively, but I've never heard of an RH equal person.
unidentified		Now, is there anything that I came across anybody else that has?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, is there anything otherwise different about you?
		Do you have any strange powers?
		Can you see through walls?
unidentified		Well, I have been known on occasion to walk, be passing people on the sidewalk, and they would look toward me, and I would answer their question, and they'd kind of look at me kind of dumbfounded.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're telling me you can read minds?
unidentified		Well, not particularly read minds.
		I can actually, you know, I have a sense of what someone is about to ask, and I would answer the question on occasion.
		It doesn't happen on a regular basis.
		It just occurs occasionally.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I just read a book that I've recommended to my listeners, and I recommend to you called The Miracle Strain.
		Boy, was that a good book.
		And you sort of fit into perhaps a category that was almost described in that book.
		I don't want to give anything away.
unidentified		Well, I do recall way back, you know, in the late 50s, early 60s, of being tested genetically, you know, at some point when I was extremely young.
unidentified		And the genetic testing that they did of some sort, they injected something into my right hip.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		and you know it came back as an extremely strong whatever it was not do you do you Do you get colds?
unidentified		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You don't get colds.
unidentified		No.
unidentified		I don't even get the flu.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You don't ever get the flu either?
unidentified		Well, I get, you know, I get the, you know, the garden 12-hour variety, but I don't get the flu or the cold, no.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We need your blood.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We need your blood.
unidentified		Well, the plasma, actually.
unidentified		it may be there's something in your blood that could be all of humanity more possible but you know the thing of it is we Do you remember a movie back, I mean, a television series back in the, say, early 70s, late 60s, maybe even mid-70s, regarding a person that had an extremely rare blood type that government agents were chasing this person all over the place and he would donate blood to the body.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, I vaguely do recall that, yes.
unidentified		And he would donate blood to cure people and stuff like that.
		Yes.
		That is basically the scenario behind the mapping of the Human Genome Project.
		And the human genome has been completely mapped as, you know, like I say, in the 50s.
		And the story behind the human clone that was actually cloned successfully in 1975, the doctor that cloned this individual, it was naturally sponsored by the military for military purposes.
		And the military gave orders to this doctor to do away with this clone because the clone refused to kill a dog.
		You know, actually physically kill a dog.
		It wouldn't kill on command.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, so that wouldn't be any good for the military.
unidentified		No, it wouldn't.
		No.
		But, you know, if you can.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Would the clone even kick a dog?
unidentified		No, it wouldn't harm the dog in any way.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, then that's obviously no good for the military at all.
unidentified		No, but I can give you the doctor's name and phone numbers.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't want it now.
		Not here on the air.
		Let's do it off the air.
		Get me by email or snail mail or however you can get it to me privately the number, and I will investigate this.
unidentified		Yeah, well, I will get, you know, like I say, it's going to be a couple weeks before I get connected back up to the internet.
unidentified		But when I get connected back up to the internet, I will send you an email with the doctor's name and two phone numbers.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Wonderful.
		I'll look forward to it.
		Thank you very much.
		I give that man a seven.
		You know, lacking documentation, of course, at this point.
		I give him a seven on a scale of weirdness.
		Pretty cool.
		RH equal blood.
		Blood that prevents colds or even a serious flu?
		Hmm, we need that man's blood, don't we?
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
		No, wait a minute.
		Push the button.
		There we go.
		West of the Rockies, now you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Mr. Bell.
		Yes.
		Hey, I'm on.
		That's great.
		Hey, welcome back.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		Well, I've got a weird theory for you.
		Okay.
		You remember the, I'm sure you do, the guy that freaked out and your satellite went dead?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
unidentified		Okay.
		You remember when he said right before things went haywire?
		He said that the aliens were interdimensional creatures, I believe.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's correct.
unidentified		That they weren't what we thought they were.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
unidentified		Okay, well, an interdimensional creature would be able to, just like we can look down on fish in a pond, I think one of your recent guests mentioned.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		They should be able to.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But actually, that was, again, Professor Kaku who said that.
unidentified		Right, right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And he said, what would a fish think if you plucked that fish out of the water and he looked around at the world above the water, which he had never seen before, and you threw him back in and he was talking to his friends down there, trying to tell them what had happened.
unidentified		Exactly.
		So these creatures then could do the equivalent to us.
		They could possibly read our thoughts, get inside us maybe in ways that we can't even imagine.
		Now, if you link that idea together with something else that I remember Whitley Streeber mentioning in his book, Communion, that the aliens seem to, I believe he said this or it was someone along the same lines, that they collect souls.
		They have a fascination with souls.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Okay, well, if you take those two things together, then the aliens could be interdimensional creatures, which is what the first, the very unusual call you got, they could be demons.
		I mean, that could be another way of describing what religion has put a label on that people seem to object to because of all the dogma and worse yet, sir?
		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We could just be soul food for them.
unidentified		Exactly.
		Exactly.
		But it puts the idea of demons in even Christianity.
		Angels, good aliens versus bad aliens.
		If we think of it in terms of angels, it seems actually, I mean, I hate to say it, but it seems to be a lot more acceptable and palatable than calling them demons or angels, because after all, we think of a demon as being a Satan creature with red skin and a tail.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Don't forget the horns.
unidentified		Right.
		You know, we have a cartoon concept that we put onto something, but if we put it in the context of these could be interdimensional creatures that may have an agenda, and if they have some type of fascination or lust for human souls, then it could put, you know, the whole thing, the old Christianity idea in a different perspective.
		It could.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, I appreciate your theory.
		It's definitely weird.
		Definitely weird.
		What do you think the devil really looks like?
		Not the traditional horns and tail and all the rest of it.
		I wonder what the devil really looks like.
		Have any of you actually ever seen the devil?
		Now, the best person that I have ever seen to play the devil or one of his disciples is beyond any question Christopher Walken.
		I mean, that guy is weird.
		Christopher Walken, as Rena, I would like to interview Christopher Walken.
		He just has a natural, a sort of wonderfully evil presence about him.
		You know, he's done those sorts of movies, and he's almost being typecast now, but he is absolutely perfect for the part.
unidentified		Perfect.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		On my international line, you're on air.
		Good morning.
		Oh, Hi there.
		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Can you hear me?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I hear you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		I'm calling from Saskatchewan, Canada.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Saskatchewan, good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Welcome to the program.
unidentified		Yeah, and you were talking about the first thing, you're talking about summit savings time.
unidentified		Saskatchewan doesn't go on it either.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		No.
unidentified		So we're in the same time as you are right now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		However, when we change time here, what is it, about another week, we'll change times?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We'll leave you guys behind, huh?
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
unidentified		Have you seen the October issue of Discover magazine?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't think I have, no.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I just got back to the country, so I haven't seen it.
unidentified		There is an interesting article in there, and some scientists were doing tests on rats, and they found out that nitrates and nitrite compounds both in rats and humans are first line at defense against bacteria like E. coli, bacteria, and salmonella.
		So that may explain why a lot of people are getting sick for cutting down.
		A lot of people are not having enough nitrates in their bodies.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's a possibility.
		Thank you.
		I am very distrustful of studies done on rats that are then immediately converted to have human to be relative to human beings.
		Because so many times in the past we have either taken things off the market or allowed them to go on the market based on test on rats.
		And I think that is insufficient.
		I want to see human trials before I'm a believer.
		Anyway, let us continue and go here to my weird person line.
		You're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello, Art Bell.
		Yes.
		Oh, I just got through.
		That's great.
		Okay, just listen to the show.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, you're going to have to speak up good and loud.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I can barely hear you.
unidentified		Okay, is that better?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's better.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		Well, I just want to say in 1980, I took a trip to Wyoming to specifically go aboard a UFO on Pat McGuire's farm.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, now, wait a minute.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why would you think there would be a UFO landing in Wyoming or anywhere else?
unidentified		Well, Mr. Maguire was on television saying that there was on, I think, the old show That's Incredible.
		Uh-huh.
		And so myself and a couple of friends went out there and saw what we saw.
		It's all documented through Dr. Sprinkle at the university.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So what did you see?
unidentified		Oh, I don't really want to say, but I saw the equivalent of some bright lights.
		I'll leave it at that.
		And they were flying in a pattern that was not fixed-wing or rotary-wing-type aircraft.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You saw a UFO?
unidentified		No doubt, but I don't want to say that because I have no way to prove it other than my own word.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Look, a UFO is just an unidentified flying object.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You definitely saw one of those, right?
unidentified		By definition, I did.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But you didn't get picked up.
		You didn't get abducted.
		You didn't get to ride in one.
unidentified		I'm not sure.
		Oh?
		I don't think I did, no.
		But some strange things did happen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Like what?
unidentified		I don't want to go into detail.
		There's too many people listening.
		But you knew that when you called me.
		Well, it's just something weird to talk about that I did.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's why I have the weird line open.
unidentified		Right, right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you can't tell me?
unidentified		I could tell you maybe, you know, person-to-person conversation, but not on the air.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, then I'm going to leave it at that then.
		You've got to be able to tell everybody, not just me.
unidentified		You've got to be able to tell everybody.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This is an open radio program.
unidentified		So.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		When you get ready to, you know, make it all public, when you're going to let it all out, well, call me back.
		On my weird person line, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Hello, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		My name is Teddy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		My friends call me terrible Teddy.
unidentified		They think I'm kind of weird, and I think I'm very normal.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, why do they think you're weird?
unidentified		Well, I do have a fascination with death.
unidentified		You remember the video's Faces of Death?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
unidentified		I've rented it 27 times.
		Really?
		I find it mildly erotic.
		And I don't know.
		I think that's normal, but I just think death...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You think death and faces of death was a videotape, for those who don't know, that depicted people dying in truly horrible, awful ways.
unidentified		Oh, I loved it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		Yeah, and they think for some reason they say, I have a coffee can full of old toenails ranging from celebrities.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You collect toenails?
unidentified		I have a toenail collection, that's right.
unidentified		It ranges from celebrities down to my neighbor, and I am quite proud of it, actually.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		As a matter of interest, how do you get these toenails?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it's not something you can ask people for.
unidentified		Well, in fact, I do ask for them, and on occasion, if I notice someone is clipping their toenails, I'll wait politely until they're finished and then collect them when they leave.
unidentified		do you sometimes have to do so covertly in other words well i'm i have i have been kind of proud of the don't know question so i don't mind if someone sees me and i'm not afraid to talk to him about it how many uh...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		that you say you've got How many toenails do you suppose you have totally?
unidentified		Well, to be honest with you, I'm not exactly sure of the number, but a coffee can full is a good size and a large amount.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a lot of toenails.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How long have you been collecting them?
unidentified		For about five years, actually.
		I'm about ready to fill the can and start a new one, so it's exciting for me.
		Another day I chose, I found a very large ant in my backyard.
		No wonder what these ants do during the day.
		So I followed him.
		I followed him for about five hours.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You spent five hours following an ant?
unidentified		Through my backyard, My neighbor's yard into the street and across the street, and I'll tell you, he went down the sewer.
		And I lost him.
		He took a while to get the lid off, but Beyoncé, I think he ditched me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So, in other words, by the time you were able to lift the lid.
unidentified		He was gone.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He was gone.
unidentified		Yeah, but he was gone.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But you spent five hours following an aunt.
unidentified		I thought it was very stimulating.
		I felt it was something to, they're going somewhere, they're very busy.
		I just wanted to know where, but he did get away from me.
		And apparently, it's a long trip just across the yard, so maybe they don't get too much accomplished, but they are very busy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, how are you able to devote so much time to the faces of death 27 times, collecting toenails, following ants?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, these are time-consuming things.
unidentified		Yes, it is.
		As a matter of fact, I do sacrifice a lot of sleep.
		Of course, I do listen to your show often, so that takes a lot of my time, and it gives me a chance also to engage in these activities because I have affordable radio and headphones and such.
		So you do kind of ride along with me.
		Now, that, I think, is weird.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		As a matter of curiosity, you've got this coffee can full of toenails.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How do you know which ones came from a celebrity?
unidentified		Oh, I just said I tagged them, of course.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You tagged them?
unidentified		A little piece of masking tape to identify someone.
unidentified		Some of them are just kind of run-of-the-mill, and so I don't bother with that, but the very famous ones are people who I consider to be famous.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Give me a name or two, famous toenails that you have.
unidentified		Well, I've got the hold on a second.
		Let me see.
		I've got a list here.
		I did buy a set that someone told me came from Madonna's though.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did you say Madonna?
unidentified		That's right.
		I was in Los Angeles visiting at the time and at a beach, and someone offered them to me.
		And I'm not sure if this was someone who you consider a turnout dealer, or he just was maybe a funny joke, but I have to say.
		Were these given to you freely or did you have to pay money for those?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You paid for them.
unidentified		$165.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
unidentified		And, of course, I value those greatly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, contact me privately because I've got some very famous nails for you.
		We've got a break here at the top of the hour.
		Nine on a scale of ten.
unidentified		You'll listen to Arc Bell somewhere in time.
		Tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from October 21st, 1997.
		Coast AM from October 21st, 1997.
		Coast AM from October 21st, 1997.
		Coast AM from October 21st, 1997.
		Joe the Peak Work Bell somewhere in time.
		Tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from October 21st, 1997.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning, everybody.
		We are doing many things this morning.
		Nothing tremendously important, but a lot of fun.
		I've got a special weird person line open.
		Now, why would I open a line for weird people?
		Well, because earlier in the day, I got a call from Strange Universe, you know, the TV show.
		And they wanted me to be a judge.
		They're going to have a weird person contest, and I've been invited to be one of five judges, and I thought, well, I have a program.
		I have weird people.
		Maybe even more than the average.
		And so I thought I would open a line for weird people, and I am so far not disappointed.
		Now, the caller just before the top of this last hour definitely was a nine on a scale of 10.
		I mean, we're talking about a man who watched Faces of Death 27 times and finds it erotic.
		We're talking about a man who collects toenails.
		He had an entire coffee can full of toenails.
		Some of them from famous people.
		In fact, some of them even labeled as Madonna's toenails.
		And here, too, is a man who followed an ant on his hands and knees for five hours until it fooled him by going down a storm drain.
		I'm giving him a good nine out of ten.
		Then there was an earlier fellow who has invented and possibly patented, I forgot to ask about that, two orgasm machines.
		One for men, one for women.
		Here's somebody faxing art.
		Tell your caller, I will sell my toenails for 20 cents each.
		I'm broke.
		Signed, Tom.
		And this, I guess, on a more serious note, Dale from Atlanta, Georgia, R just heard on ABC News, thousands of seabirds found dead in Alaska due to starvation.
		El Nino is what's being blamed.
		The quickening.
		Oh, and that reminds me, he says the quickening continues.
		That's from Dale.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Good morning, Mr. Bell.
		Yes.
		About your trip to Egypt?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		It must have been beautiful.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It was.
unidentified		I wanted to ask you, the Egyptian calendar, isn't that supposed to be one of the oldest calendar in the world?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm sure it's old.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, the Egyptian civilization is certainly very old.
unidentified		Well, I heard it goes back like to 7,000 years, but it's consecutive years.
		I mean, it's nothing like time wasted or anything like that.
		I heard a lot about the Egyptian calendar.
		Now, the Sphinx and the pyramids that you saw, that was built 5,000 years ago?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, probably a lot of people estimate 4,000 or 5,000 years.
		There are others who think the Sphinx is as old as 12,000 years.
		It's very unclear.
		Very unclear.
unidentified		Okay, now, that was built by the Egyptian slaves?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I think those are the indications.
		But nobody can still show how it was done.
		But I saw the tombs of the workers that built the pyramid.
		So there is no question that human beings were involved.
		But how they moved the blocks remains as much of a mystery as ever.
unidentified		Okay, now that's the pharaohs of Bury Beauty.
unidentified		That's the kings of Egypt.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the pharaohs, yeah.
unidentified		Okay, because that's in the Bible, too.
unidentified		Now, there's Alexandria, Egypt.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I was there.
unidentified		Okay, that was named by Alexander the Great.
		That was built by Alexander the Great during the Greek Empire.
		That's correct, right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I think that's correct.
unidentified		And that's 300 years B.C. That was built by.
		But it's wonderful.
		See how European history, in a way, and Southern European history and the Middle East history.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'll tell you.
		As a matter of fact, I'll tell you some about that.
		Where are you calling from?
unidentified		Minneapolis.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Minneapolis.
		All right.
		Well, you listen to what I have to say.
		Whether you're talking about Paris.
		As a matter of fact, I think CNN did something on this recently.
		Paris, London, any other major European capital that you could name, save perhaps the former Eastern Bloc countries.
		Their society is very, their civilization much, much, much older than us or any of our cities.
		And yet, their cities are kept well.
		Their infrastructure is clean and efficient and safe.
		When you walk around their streets, you are generally safe.
		Now, I would not necessarily say that about Cairo.
		I'm talking more about the northerly European cities.
		Very old.
		Very safe, very clean.
		And here we are, very new, and our infrastructure is falling apart.
		Our bridges are a mess.
		Many of our inner cities are total disasters.
		Washington, D.C., our nation's capital, certainly is one of those.
		You look at the monuments that are maintained, and they're very pretty.
		But outside of that, Washington, D.C. is basically surrounded by basically a ghetto.
		There are certainly nice areas of Washington, but there are a lot of not-so-nice areas.
		And you've just got to wonder why that is.
		And it's not confined to Washington, D.C. That was the example, I think, that CNN or TBS used.
		I forget which it was.
		TBS, maybe.
		But any major U.S. inner city has a lot of areas that, frankly, a lot of Americans would be ashamed of when they go and look at the European capitals that are much older.
		And I wonder why that is.
		West of the Rockies, you are on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Good morning, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning to you.
unidentified		Hey, I consider myself weird, but yes, true.
		My fifth birthday, when I was younger, it was a big disappointment to me, and I can still remember it.
		But what I remember was a lady visiting me.
		It was more of a spiritual lady that I met when I was about five.
		And she's always contacted me when I'm alone or when I'm meditating.
		I've always called her like a mother, like a second mother to me.
		And what she's taught me, I mean, I know this for true, what she's taught me is how to control the wind.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The wind?
unidentified		Yes, indeed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, let me get this straight.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This is a woman who comes to you psychically.
unidentified		In fact.
		When I was little, you know, when I was little, I had a better imagination or I was in touch better.
		And I'd actually see her.
		But as I've grown up, I can hear her.
		And it's not that I'm trying to contact her.
		It's just instantly she's there at the least moment I'll expect it.
		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How do you control the wind?
unidentified		Well, the way I figure it, it's more I get myself into a like a meditation state where I just concentrate on what I'm doing or either that or my feelings are enraged and it just kind of flows through me.
		In fact, I remember my, it was my 21st birthday.
		I was living out in Nebraska.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		And I was really, really upset for, I don't remember why, but I was really upset over it.
unidentified		And I created a twister probably about five miles south of me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		God, you mean a tornado?
unidentified		A tornado, indeed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You must have been really ticked off.
unidentified		Yeah, I was.
unidentified		I was really ticked off, in fact.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, can it go the other way?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, if it's blowing hard outside and let's say it's annoying you and you want it to stop.
unidentified		No, not really.
		No, no, I can't do that.
		But when it's really still or when it's a clear day out, I'm not talking I can control the wind all over the world.
		It's like it seems to me like in a 15, 20 mile radius of me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A localized thing.
unidentified		Yeah, exactly.
		Exactly.
		And I just it's just a feeling that just comes through my hands and my head and it just blows through me.
		And it's really awesome.
		Some neat things happen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That is cool.
		I mean, you ought really not create tornadoes.
		That's nasty.
unidentified		Well, yeah, that's true enough.
		True enough.
		I went out to Nebraska to see one and never did.
		And I finally did, though.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, the city of Los Angeles could use you.
unidentified		Get on their payroll.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, when it's still in L.A., you know, when you don't have a good offshore breeze or something, naturally you've got a lot of pollution.
unidentified		Sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And anybody who could generate wind would be of truly great value.
unidentified		True.
unidentified		Now, my name's Dakota, by the way.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Dakota?
unidentified		Takota with the TV.
		Takota.
		Yeah.
		Hey, I got another thing I want to throw at you.
		I'd like your advice on real quick.
		I've talked to you before on this, and I never really got a straight answer from you.
		Anyway, what it involves was this Sean Morton, I think it was.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sean David Morton, yes.
unidentified		Yeah, there you go.
unidentified		He was on the other night.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
unidentified		Anyway, and another fellow, probably about a year back, was talking about this Aurora project in Sarah 51.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		Well, I've got a fact of proof with it, and I'd like to tell you a quick story about it because it's really pretty awesome.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, wait a minute.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You said you asked me a question and didn't get a straight answer.
unidentified		What was it?
unidentified		Excuse me?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You said you asked me a question and didn't get a straight answer.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What was it?
unidentified		Well, what it was, was a couple years back, I was living in a small town in southern Colorado and a preacher friend of mine, I wasn't too old anyway, he took a vacation out to Lake Powell and was using, he was on one of those ferry boat rides and was using high-speed photography just to take, you know, a picture of the scenery and da-da-da-da-da.
		And just took a picture in the afternoon time, and he got home and developed it, and all of a sudden there was this craft right in the middle of it that was just splitting the wind in two, and he could see like four huge jets coming out of the back of it.
		And this guy didn't see it.
		He didn't hear it, nothing.
		It was just a chance in a million, right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A phantom craft.
unidentified		You got it.
		So what he did, he sent it to the Pentagon.
		He took a couple of proofs of it and kept them for himself and blew it up a little bit.
		He sent it to the Pentagon.
		And about two weeks later, the Pentagon sent back the letter.
		I have the letter that is Xerox copy just stating that it's probably lucid or photography.
		It's nothing to worry about.
		But we'd like your negatives.
		Yeah, indeed.
		So he knew he had something right away.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, men in black.
unidentified		You got it.
unidentified		What he tried to do is he contacted Time Magazine.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And within two days, this must have put out a red light for him or something.
unidentified		Because two days later, men in black came to his house.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Here we go.
unidentified		He was a minister.
unidentified		They put a federal warrant on his house saying that he was embezzling money through the church.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, boy.
unidentified		And they took him away.
		And in the meantime, in those two or three days, he gave me a picture, a fairly good-sized picture of this craft.
		And nobody, as far as I know, it's the last one remaining.
		And it is just awesome.
		I mean, just, I mean, there's no way it's a fluke.
		There's no way that it's a fake.
		And it's fact.
		I mean, it's splitting the air in two.
		And it's just incredible, incredible.
		And I've been sitting on it for about five years now.
		And whoever doesn't know what I'm talking about, as far as what I understand is, is this craft is if, let's say, Russia were to send up an ICBM at us, right?
		That we'd have something so fast to travel over to Russia or wherever and knock out this ballistic missile on their own soil.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm still not clear on what question you asked me that I did not answer properly.
unidentified		Okay, well, there you go.
		The thing that bothers me is I'm a patriot at heart.
		I mean, our government, you know, it's got its bad points.
		It's got its good points.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, yes.
unidentified		The thing is, I don't understand, I know it's true.
		I just worry about national security.
		Now, last time I talked to you, you were like, oh, just send it in.
		I'll throw it on my website.
		Well, I contacted my...
		Yeah, the photograph.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, right.
unidentified		Well, I talked to my state representative, my senator here in Colorado.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And he immediately put me in with Space Command down at NORAD.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And NORAD told me what they believe it was, was what I said it was.
		Yes.
		And if They want me to send it to them, for them to send it to the CIA just to bury it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, well, I'm going to give you the same answer I gave you before.
		Don't send it to the CIA, don't give it to the guys in suits, send it to me.
		And I don't see how you can refer to that as an unsatisfactory reply.
		Because if I get it, I'll put it up on the web and everybody can see it.
		well that those of people way to get to get an answer to that question the Back to the lines we go.
		On my weird person line, you are on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello, am I on the air?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're on the air.
unidentified		Yeah.
		Well, I was, first of all, I was a weird child.
		When I was born, I was born with webbed toes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Webb toes?
unidentified		Yeah.
		I was always double-jointed.
		I could do weird things when I was a kid.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You mean you actually have skin between all your toes?
unidentified		Not all of them, between two of my toes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Does it help you when you swim?
unidentified		People always ask me that, but not really.
		I was double-jointed when I was a child.
		I could do weird things like wrap my legs and arms into like a Tretzel.
		And I would walk around on my knees, and then I would stick my stomach out to about almost a foot and then suck it in and scare my ma to death.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		Yes, just terribly weird.
unidentified		I would swallow stones.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Swallow, you ate rocks?
		Yeah.
		Why?
unidentified		Because I could.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did they taste good?
		Or was it just sort of a thing like, hey, I can eat rocks.
		Why?
unidentified		They kind of felt good going down when they hit the stomach.
unidentified		That also scares my mother.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That would scare me.
		well what size rocks could you No, they were round, smooth rocks.
		Like you'd find in a pond or maybe at the beach or something that had been worn away by the water.
unidentified		No, just right out in the yard.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yard rocks.
		Yeah.
		Where are you, by the way?
unidentified		Right now I'm calling from Maybrook, New York.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Maybrook, New York.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where were you when you were eating rocks?
unidentified		Green Bay, Wisconsin.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		green bay wisconsin uh...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		do you have any idea whether the rocks Well, that's what my mother was worried about, so she called the doctor, and the doctor said not to worry that they would pass right through, which I don't remember happening.
unidentified		But another thing that I did is I took a stick and I started digging a hole in my knee.
		And I got to the bone.
		I would take a kind of a pointy stick and I would start digging a...
		Yeah, in my knee.
		And then I see some white stuff in there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's probably your bone.
unidentified		Yeah, it was bone or cartilage or something.
		It was kind of neat.
		I just had a weird life.
		Just completely eyeball weird.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're right.
		You are weird.
		Now, how old are you now?
unidentified		I'm 37.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		37.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, how long were you eating rocks?
unidentified		Well, I stopped.
unidentified		My mother made me stop after a while, but I would say for about a week or so.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A week of eating rocks.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you have any idea what caused you to?
unidentified		Well, I was told my father was in the service, and I was told that he was on a cruiser.
unidentified		This is how the story goes, a Navy cruiser during the atomic testing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And I've always had a theory that that sort of kind of passed on to me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ah, so you think he may have been genetically irradiated, causing a defect in you, which caused you to eat rocks and pick your knee open?
unidentified		Well, yeah, but I don't consider it a defect.
		I consider it kind of like an enhancement.
		You know what I mean?
		Kind of like a superior being, a mutant, like on the X-Men or something like that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you still feel that, for example, today you could eat a rock and that...
unidentified		I could definitely eat a rock.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you actually find yourself longing for an occasional rock?
unidentified		Well, considering that the nutritional value of most of the food nowadays isn't all that high, I would think a rock would be fairly good for you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, there would be trace minerals, certainly.
unidentified		Well, yeah, a lot of dirt.
unidentified		Dirt is supposed to be good for you, really, if you think about it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You didn't eat dirt, did you?
unidentified		Well, there was dirt on a rock.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So I suppose, in a way, your body probably did assimilate some of what you ate.
unidentified		Well, I would think so.
unidentified		I've never, like I said, I don't remember asking them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Have you ever seen a snake eat a mouse?
unidentified		No, I don't believe I have.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's really horrible.
		You can see the mouse actually, you know, as a giant lump slowly going down the snake and being digested as it goes.
		Doesn't the snake's jaw kind of disconnect so it can what size rocks?
		I mean, did you eat what we would generally call a pebble?
unidentified		Oh, no, like about a bird's egg-sized rock.
		I mean, I couldn't obviously take a five-pound rock and swallow it.
		I mean, it was just a stone.
		Nothing, you know, fancy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, look, I'm not exactly sure how to classify you, but you're definitely up there on a scale of ten.
unidentified		Sir, it doesn't end there, but I don't know if you have enough time for me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You mean there's more?
unidentified		There is more.
unidentified		I hate to admit it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I do have time for you.
unidentified		Well, when I was 16 or in my teenage years, I was pretty much, I don't know, the village idiot.
unidentified		You know, kind of not too smart of a guy, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, probably from eating rocks.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Well, see, what I did is I kind of said...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let this be a cliffhanger.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Can you afford to hold on?
unidentified		I don't know.
		I've got a prepaid phone card.
		I'm not that rich.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, call me back then, and we'll continue.
unidentified		Tonight or today?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, no, tomorrow.
unidentified		Tomorrow?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Sure, I can do that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		I'll look forward to your.
		I'll think of you as a rock man, all right?
unidentified		Rockman, all right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, thank you.
		Okay.
		What do you folks think?
		That deserves a good 8 out of 10.
unidentified		You're listening to Art Bell Summer in Time on Premiere Radio Networks.
		Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from October 21st, 1997.
		Waterloo, couldn't escape if I wanted you.
		Waterloo, knowing I'm waiting to be you.
		Waterloo, finally wasting our water.
		I tried to hold you back, but...
		...and I tried to hold you back, but...
		...and I tried to hold you back.
		I tried to hold you back...
		...and I tried to hold you back...
		Premier Radio Networks presents Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight's program originally aired October 21st, 1997.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, as you can see, I'm doing weird tonight, and I'm definitely not disappointed.
		We've had some real winners thus far.
		What do you folks think, Tony?
		Anyway, it continues.
		If you think you qualify as an exceptionally weird person for one reason or another, I have my weird person line open since I'm going to be an official judge.
		In a contest of this sort, I thought I might prepare.
		And there probably is no way to prepare for something like this.
		So anyway, that's what we're doing, for whatever that's worth.
unidentified		The End This month in the After Dark magazine, read all about the magical powers of the human body, including psychometry, where everyday objects offer portals to other dimensions of information.
		Or Orgon energy.
		Maybe you shook hands with somebody and felt a surge of information about that person.
		It's all in the March issue of After Dark.
		Subscribe now by calling poll-free the new number, 188-261-6392.
		That's 1888-261-6392.
		188-261-6392.
		Now we take you back to the night of October 21st, 1997 on Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Music There was a young woman named Bright who could travel faster than light.
		She went up one day in a relative way and returned the previous night.
		On my weird line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
		Yeah, hi, Art.
		Hi, how you doing?
		Okay, Art.
		Basically, what I do that's weird is go around all day walking up to strangers and asking them, what does it feel like to be alive on this planet?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And what sort of responses do you garner?
unidentified		Well, a lot of them give me a double take.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know what?
		You know, if you were to do that to me, I might regard that as a threat.
		In other words, like you're asking me, you know, how does it feel to be alive on the planet in a way to suggest how would it feel not to be alive?
unidentified		Yeah, well, some of them would rather, they would say, well, I'd rather talk that to a psychiatrist than saying it out to you.
		Some of them give me a double take, as I said.
		Some of them want to talk about the actual miracle of life here.
		And then we'll get into talking about life and the different nuances.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Although it definitely has its ups and downs.
		I mean, there's a lot of ways of looking at it.
		Life sometimes is wonderful, and sometimes it's a total bummer.
unidentified		Yeah, I like to share my personal philosophy.
		So I'll even put out ideas that, you know, passing people by in the street is a totally unnatural thing.
		I mean, we all tolerate it, but I like to share that idea with people and see what they think about it.
		Now, I'll go do this in malls, in parks, in bookstores, train stations, bus stations, wherever I can get around.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You probably scare people.
unidentified		Well, if I scare people, I think maybe they're neurotic, you know?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		well there is a seemingly however my behavior would be taken in the right but in well abby normal uh...
		because it is the only way we can I mean, what's normal?
		The only way you can suggest that something is normal is by averages.
		In other words, that, say, 9 out of 10 people would say you're neurotic or strange.
		And so by that measure, I suppose we could say you are, according to the norm, neurotic.
		That doesn't necessarily make you so, but there's a good chance you are.
unidentified		there's a psychiatrist that's dead now named R.D. Lange who spoke to this whole thing and he said the people that go around the way they do in everyday society robotic like dead this is
art bell ▲ ● ▼		actually more abnormal than the so-called neurotic in other words the way people pass each other by in everyday society and Yeah, I think that's a good question.
unidentified		Well, see, we're tribal people in a sense, and the way society has been structured, matter of fact, the social nature of us is not social in the natural, intimate sense of the word.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, absolutely not.
		You're right.
		We are very distant from each other in modern society, and you are doing your little part to change that.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Which could land you in a mental institution.
unidentified		Right.
		Now, this is what all the prophets did, and they were considered that crazy, too.
		I mean, if they came back today, any of the prophets, they would probably be put in an institution, as you say.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I wonder when they put you in and then did your examination and tried to determine if you were sane or not, what a psychiatrist would have to say about you?
unidentified		I think he'd probably be under the old structure which, you know, tried to put dysfunctional, make people functional and put them back in a dysfunctional society, which is impossible.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He would try to cure you.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		That seems to be the psychiatrist's way of thinking, to put people back into a dysfunctional society, so-called functional, which I don't think you can do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I follow you.
unidentified		And, well, I'm calling from King of Prussia, Pennsylvania, which is a strange name, first of all.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is.
unidentified		Many people realize what that is.
unidentified		That is an actual town.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's probably a small town, isn't it?
unidentified		Yeah, it has the largest shopping mall, the third largest shopping mall in the country.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		See, in New York or Los Angeles, you would not actually be thought of as particularly strange.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		or at the you know as somebody who stands out because you're going around asking people this question but i would imagine in king of prussia well well they probably think of u_s_ So it's one and the other.
unidentified		In other words, it's two of the most opposite things you can have, like a natural paradigm combined with the biggest mall, one of the biggest malls in the country.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What is the most interesting answer you ever got to your question?
unidentified		Basically, I guess it runs along the lines of some of the same things that people say that, you know, just the fact that we have arms and legs here and are standing up is like a miracle in itself.
unidentified		Like, that very fact, you know what I mean?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it is for a lot of people.
		All right, sir.
		Well, I appreciate the call.
		I can imagine that you would have some difficulty in a small Pennsylvania town walking around asking people that kind of question.
		So, yes, you're weird.
		Probably, though, no more than, say, about five on a scale of ten.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
		This is Ray from Peoria.
		How you doing?
		Not too bad.
		You still got open eyes?
		Absolutely.
		Okay.
		I'm glad you made it back, all right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, me too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There were moments when I wasn't sure.
unidentified		Oh, really?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
unidentified		I had one question and one quick comment.
unidentified		I was wondering, did you ever contact Father Malachi Martin before you went?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Get into some of the secret places?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I did, but the problem was the good father's contact at the Vatican was at that time in South America preparing for the Pope, because you remember the Pope was going to South America.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And so his contact was not in place, and we didn't get to do it.
unidentified		Okay, well, I just had one little comment about the Roswell incident.
		Yes.
		Well, something I've never heard brought up.
		It seems to me it can only be one of two ways.
		One, something actually crashed that was totally unknown, and they have it.
		Or two, they're putting people so incompetent in charge of our nuclear weapons, I think that's scarier than the first.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, if you're worried about our officialdom with regard to nuclear weapons, you better look at what's going on over in Russia.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That'll really scare the hell out of you.
unidentified		With the suitcase nukes and everything else?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A hundred of them.
unidentified		Yeah.
		If you had a suitcase nuke, what would you do with it?
		Well, that's a hard question.
		Personally, I wouldn't want one.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I know, but let's say you were given one.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		Free of charge.
		Suitcase nuke.
		It's all yours.
unidentified		Well, I don't know if that's a question I can even answer.
		I can't even imagine having something like that.
		That's just.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Be a lot of personal power.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Be a lot of responsibility, too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's the way power is.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, anyway, you think that over, and if you ever come up with an answer, call me.
unidentified		Sure will.
		All right.
		Take care.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Yeah, what would you do if you had one of those hundred suitcase newts?
		Boy, I'm telling you.
		Local changes?
		No problem.
		Be something, huh?
		On my weird line, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Just call me me from Alabama.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, it's me from Alabama.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		I'd like to talk about something about me being weird, plus I'd like to end it with talking about these scientists inventing or having these clones on these torsos.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
		Well, two separate subjects.
		Or maybe not.
		How are you weird?
unidentified		Okay.
		I walk around with money in my shoes.
		I've got four type shoes, and the rest of my shoes are sandals and high heels.
		And the largest amount of money I walk on is at least $4.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, why do you do that?
unidentified		And it's all in change.
		Well, I have money that I find in parking lots and things like that, and I put it in the right shoe.
		And I get money within a couple of days.
		It may not be money.
		Most of the time it's money.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So in other words, it is your theory that if you find money or even put money in your shoe, that will cause you to find money.
unidentified		Well, when I put the money in my shoe and walk on it, I'm handed money.
unidentified		Money is given to me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
unidentified		And one time I found a dime and a nickel, and that's mostly more than I find.
		Usually it's pennies.
		And I thought, well, I wonder what I'm going to get for that.
		And I was given $300 within two days later.
		And people laugh at me because when I take my shoes off somewhere when I was sitting around, there's always some change in my shoes.
		And every pair that I have, except my sandals or high heels, have money in it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How did you discover that this works?
unidentified		Well, the Bible says whatsoever the soles of your feet tread on, that shall you possess.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Boy, it's hard to believe they were talking about money there, though.
unidentified		Well, the sole of my feet found it, isn't it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you can't argue with success.
unidentified		No.
unidentified		Now, can I mention that about the torso that they're inventing for the parts, human parts?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
unidentified		Did you see on television it was on either hard copy or excess?
		I'm not really sure.
		The first of this week where this doctor was on there that had successfully removed a head from a bowel bone and put it on another one.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
unidentified		And he wants to do this to human.
		And they showed this paralegic in a wheelchair.
		And he said he would be willing for them to, if they found the body, like a body in a wreck that wasn't nothing wrong with it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Put his head on it.
unidentified		Be willing to put his head on it.
		He said, if you was in my shoes, you would think so different than, you know, of course.
		And the doctor said that he's in the process of getting the spine, you know, where the head connects.
		And when he gets that thoroughly done, which they've already successfully done it on a balboon, he's going to do it on a human.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know what worries me even more than that?
		I once had a guest on the show who said, we now have the technical capability to keep a head alive by itself.
		With no body.
unidentified		Well, they probably do.
		Like you said a while ago, they can do that, but well, they can the cold, too.
		They just don't want to do it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Look, going back now to your earlier thing, it's very intriguing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you find that there's any difference in the amount of money you put in your shoe in terms of what will come to you then from doing that?
unidentified		Well, yes, sir, I did, because usually I found people lose pennies for some reason.
unidentified		I don't know why they don't lose more, but they lose pennies.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'll tell you one reason.
		People don't even pick up pennies.
		It's come to the stage now where a penny is worth so little that if it's on the ground, people won't even bother to reach down and pick it up.
unidentified		Well, I do, and I try to put it in the right shoe.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yep, what I mean is, let's say you had 25 cents in your shoe, and then let's say on another day you had a $100 bill in your shoe.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Would there be a difference in what they would bring?
unidentified		I believe that.
		Well, yes, from what I've experimented on the small change that I have, I know, because now I haven't put a $100 bill in there.
		That would kind of rot out of there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, a $100 bill, all things considered, would be easier to walk on than, say, 25 cents.
unidentified		Yes, it would.
		But it seems like the money that I have placed in my shoe has been money that I found.
		It seems like just finding it kind of adds to the ability that it's going to happen.
		Like I found the dime and the nickel.
		And I thought, gosh, wonder what that's going to bring.
		And I got $300 unexpectedly within about two days.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Totally cool.
unidentified		$15 and $15 is $30.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Like bank error in your favor.
		Like a monopoly.
		All right.
		Thank you very much.
		That's pretty cool.
		I'm going to have to give that a try.
		Have any of the rest of you ever done that?
		You find money, change, small change, pennies even, and put it in your right shoe.
		And then within a day or two, money will come to you through some unexpected way.
		Somebody will hand you money, bank error in your favor, whatever.
		You will make money.
		I've always had a thing about pennies, and I always, always, always pick them up.
		Very important to me.
		I feel as though if I ever leave a penny, I know this is, you know, very superstitious, but if I ever leave a penny, I think that I will have terrible financial trouble.
		So I don't do it.
		I always pick up pennies.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning.
unidentified		Good morning, Mr. Bell.
		It's an honor to speak to you, and welcome back from your trip from Egypt.
		This is Steve.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Steve.
unidentified		from the Area 51 line and the MIB line and all that.
		You got a new phone.
		How do you like it?
		A lot better than the old one?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, Steve, it is superb.
unidentified		Thank you.
unidentified		I've been ordered to return tonight and actually defend David John Oates.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		Yeah, the earlier caller.
		And actually, I do agree.
		I would like to defend David Oates, but first I think I need to apologize for what I said in reverse about him being a rotten schmuck.
		So sorry, David.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's all right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		People can't control what they say in reverse.
unidentified		I know that.
		But you and I were talking about the NASA PR men, and I was thinking about them.
		So I think I was talking about them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That could be.
unidentified		And you know where there was the other reversal where I said I beef it up?
		Yeah.
		That was the security at Area 51 I was thinking about.
		And where I said I make it up at the beginning, I was talking about my name.
		I was going to use Richard Charles Hoagland's first two names and call myself Ricardo Carlos.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		But I couldn't get the Spanish accent right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I see.
unidentified		And stole my life reversal.
		You know, the men in black?
		Yes.
		I was thinking about the women in black.
		See, I tell the men in black what to do, but the women in black tell me what to do, and I was thinking about that.
		That's what I meant by stole my life.
		I bet you're interested in find the script.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Vaguely.
unidentified		Find the script reversal.
		It was on the other side of the room, and I didn't have it with me.
		And he had one reversal David did.
		It said, I'm arrogant.
		But I was actually thinking in my mind, it was near the end of the call.
		I was thinking, I'm going to have to be on the air again.
		And that's why that happened like that.
		And he said on another reversal that I pierced a big enemy.
		But that was actually me saying, I fear it's the big enemy.
		And I also can tell you why you were knocked off the air that night.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why?
unidentified		You were knocked off the air by the Supreme Commandant.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Of what?
unidentified		Of the Palladian Alliance.
unidentified		She told me all about it and showed me a 3D image of the caller called David from Philadelphia who should have sent you a package by now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Not that I know of.
unidentified		And, well, he will.
		And he believes it's a hoax now, but he doesn't realize that he has been forced to believe that he hoaxed the call.
		But the call was timed.
		His call, he was forced to time his call to when she blacked out the satellite so that it would create more credibility.
		So it was definitely a she who did it.
		Yes.
		Yes.
		And she wanted me to tell you about Ed Dames and his explanation for the lights over Phoenix.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Since Ed Dames has been in the government since the time he's left, the government's got new and more advanced remote viewers, and they're so advanced that the government dispatched them out to Phoenix on the day they knew that Ed Dames and associates would be remote viewing to find out what the lights were.
unidentified		And these new government advanced remote viewers were able to project images of industrial infrared lasers intersecting each other into the minds of Ed Dames and his associates to cause him and to break the belief barrier and cause him to believe that that's what caused the lights.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you're telling me that Ed Dames was remotely influenced?
unidentified		He was remotely programmed, and I've got all the documents here.
unidentified		I can explain who did it and how, and I can even tell you something about Bill Clinton visiting South America and how he visited those military families down there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, well, we'll have to hold it there.
		We're at the top of the hour.
		Thanks for all of that info, and we'll have to check with Ed and see what he thinks.
		We'll be right back.
		Stay right where you are.
unidentified		You're listening to Arkbell somewhere in time.
		Tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from October 21st, 1997.
		Hand never cold.
		She got better days inside.
		She turned amusing on me.
		You won't have to thank twice.
		She's pure as New York snow.
		She's got better days inside.
		She's got better days inside.
		You're listening to Art Bell somewhere in time on Premier Radio Networks.
		Tonight's an ongoing presentation of Coast Good Coast A.M. from October 21st, 1997.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning, everybody.
unidentified		It's great to be here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We're doing a weird person night, and for that reason, I've got a special weird person line.
		And I should not forget that if you want to call us from anywhere overseas, from London, from Australia, from New Zealand, from anywhere in Europe, from South America, we've got a toll-free line.
		A international toll-free line.
		It will not cost you anything.
		So if you're sitting there listening to a real audio right now from AudioNet in Dallas, those good people, anywhere in the world, you can call us by getting hold of the ATNT operator or getting the AT ⁇ T USA direct country code for your country and then dialing 800-893-0903.
		That's 800-893-0903.
		I'm always forgetting to read that.
unidentified		pain pain you you
art bell ▲ ● ▼		On my weird line, you're on the air.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		Hey, Art.
		Hi.
		This is Dave.
		I'm calling you from central Iowa.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Iowa.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Nation's heartland.
unidentified		Gosh.
		When I was a little kid, there were these.
		I don't know if this was a dream or what, but it was constant, constantly happening to me.
		These creatures would come into my room.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		And I would refer to them as beadies.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Beadies?
unidentified		Yes.
		And they were tiny little, like, three-foot-tall creatures with heads that were like pickaxes.
		Totally black-colored, like night-black.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, man.
unidentified		But the thing that got to me was some of them had paper sax with large, big, black eyes.
unidentified		And like a few years ago, I saw that book, cover of a book by, I think, Whitley Schreber.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Communion.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you recognized them.
unidentified		And vaguely, yes.
		I don't know if that's what it was, but it scared the heck out of me.
		I don't know if that's what it was, but these things would come into my room at night.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And do what?
unidentified		well, surround me and make this weird noise.
		It was kind of like a...
		What can I...
		There was a lot of them doing it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let me hear that again.
unidentified		It was like a...
		but some of it sounded like it was coming out of an electronic box or something.
		It was really...
		Yeah, who knows?
		But it was, I don't know.
		I've only told my parents and one friend about it.
		And it's, you know, it was like when I was two or three years old.
		I can remember way back then.
		It was just always at this one old house we lived at.
		It's never happened.
		You know, after that, it was something else, I guess.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Very weird, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Definitely weird.
unidentified		Do you think they did anything to you?
		Gosh, you know, I don't know other than the fact that it was way too intense to have been a dream.
		I mean, maybe it was.
		I don't know.
		Little kids have wild imaginations.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I suppose you told your mom or dad.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What'd they say?
unidentified		I think they just shrugged it off as, you know, dumb little kid.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Whatever.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did you go under the covers?
unidentified		Yeah, like I used to wake up on the floor under the bed.
		You know, I don't remember getting there, but heck if I know.
		Guess I'll never know what it was.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is there anything unusual now in your adult life that you can ascribe to?
unidentified		You know, after I read Striever's books and stuff, and I tried to think of any sort of a weird, you know, missing time type of thing or anything like that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
unidentified		And I can't think of anything that's happened since then, so it might have just been like a dream thing or something.
unidentified		Who knows?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How old are you now?
unidentified		I'm 23 right now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		23?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's a lot of life left for you, and it may yet manifest itself.
unidentified		Well, maybe I'm better off never finding out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's right.
		Maybe you are.
		Thank you very much for the call.
		I don't like the sound of that.
		Little guys about three feet tall with heads like pickaxes.
		Yuck.
		Total yuck.
		West of the Rockies, you are on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		In Alabama, actually.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Alabama, all right.
unidentified		Kind of transplanted from Pennsylvania, but I like to eat paste.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Come again?
unidentified		Paste.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Paste, you mean like Elmer's glue, that kind of paste?
unidentified		Yeah.
		I ate paste when I was a little kid.
		Yeah.
		First grade, do you ever have like you like roll them up in your palm and make the like peeling skin off your hand, right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now you're talking about super glue.
unidentified		no not super glue could that stuff fix your fingers together i mean like Oh, yeah.
		Well, no, no, no, not literally peel the skin off your hand.
		But you take the Elmer's white glue and you put it on your hand and you let it dry.
		Yeah.
		And then when you peel it off, it looks like your skin.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you would eat that?
unidentified		Yeah.
		That, or like the kind of sticky, stinky stuff that smells kind of funny, like in art class when you were a little kid.
		It's kind of white, but I don't.
		How much of it did you eat?
		Whenever, well, actually, whenever I got the chance.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
		I mean, is that the sort of thing you've got to develop a taste for, or did you naturally, you know, I mean, how did it start?
		Did you, like, casually lick your hand one day and say, ooh, that's good?
unidentified		I don't know.
		I always thought that when I was a little kid, it smelled kind of good, and it tastes a little sweet.
		I don't know if it just starts from enjoying playing with it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		You know, but it always...
		It's like a candy kind of thing.
		And I don't know.
		I always just kind of enjoyed it.
		I mean, I don't know how actually.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How much of it do you actually think you might have consumed?
unidentified		In my lifetime?
unidentified		Well, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, if we're talking about your average Elmer's Glue bottle.
unidentified		Okay, well, I don't know.
unidentified		I think like from like a because actually the first time you really come in contact with it is like when you're like in first grade or second grade, right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		And I think when I really got interested in it a little bit, if I get the chance now, you know, I'll kind of take a little bit of a lick of it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		But I mean, it's not like when I was a kid.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So it's like you don't feast on it now.
unidentified		No, no.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But you did when you were young.
unidentified		But I haven't had it.
		Yeah, oh, absolutely.
		But I mean, I think it's a little bit more.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did anybody, your teachers, your mother, your father, anybody ever talk to you about it?
unidentified		No, it wasn't like a mom or dad kind of at-the-house thing.
unidentified		It was more of an in-class, like Wednesday art class kind of thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure, when they'd give you a glue and you'd be, all right.
		Well, were there any effects that you suffered or enjoyed from this?
		In other words, has the glue passed through your system?
unidentified		I don't really think so, except for, like I said, I don't know how weird this is, but I mean, I'm not necessarily embarrassed about it by it now.
unidentified		You know?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, it's all right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know what I used to eat?
unidentified		What?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Erasers.
unidentified		Erasers?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		The pink kind?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, like erasers on the end of a pencil.
unidentified		Right.
		i was looking to see reasonably decent with the kind that it up it's about like an inch it It's called a pink pow.
		Do you know what kind that is?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I wouldn't eat that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's too much.
unidentified		That's something, though.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah.
		But it's, well, anyway.
		So you ate glue.
unidentified		Yeah, absolutely.
		Paste.
		It's not exactly glue.
		Well, it is glue, but I don't mean like in the rubber cement kind of way.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Not the kind that you get on the brush.
		But I mean the paste that comes.
		It's a specific kind.
		Elmers makes it, and when you open it up, it has a paddle inside, like a little thin kind of plastic.
		Sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure, of course.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I remember it.
unidentified		It's kind of tasty.
unidentified		Well, I don't know if that's weird or not.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It may even have nutritional value, for all I know.
unidentified		I have absolutely no idea.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How old are You now?
unidentified		25.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		25.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It may be that you don't naturally eliminate it, and one day when you have not had enough liquids, the paste will solidify and glue you shut.
unidentified		Well, I had to have my appendix out in March.
		I don't know.
		I kind of wonder if that had anything to do with it.
		It's either that or chewing bubblegum.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, a lot of people swallow bubblegum.
		That's not good.
		All right.
		Well, listen, thank you very much.
unidentified		Thank you, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You definitely qualify as in there.
		He eats paste.
		Now, as an adult, he does not consume large quantities as he did earlier, but rather takes an occasional lick.
		On my international line, you are on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Good morning, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		Hello.
		Hello.
		Yeah, okay.
		Hey, welcome back.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		From Kamloops, British Columbia.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Larry?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, Larry.
unidentified		Yes.
		While you were away, there was an item that made the national news here in Canada on the other CBC network about two amateur inventors in, it was either Rockland, Quebec or Rock Island, Quebec, who claimed that they came up with a device that attaches onto a conventional car engine and produces no emissions.
		A pretty bold claim.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I should say.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, where are these guys now?
unidentified		Well, this was big news for two or three days in the media up here, and then nothing since.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's always the way it is.
unidentified		They claimed they had a Toyota or something running in a garage for 24 hours with emissions equipment hooked up to it, and that it gave off no emissions.
unidentified		If this is true, this is something that's a win-win for environmentalists and oil companies.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know why you haven't heard anything else, though, don't you?
unidentified		Well, I can imagine the old 100-mile-per-gallon carburetor.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You got it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The oil companies have dungeons, and people like that are in dungeons.
unidentified		Well, they claim that they have been inundated with calls from every conceivable oil, gas, other interested parties.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If you had to guess, do you think they're still alive?
unidentified		Well, I would certainly hope so.
		But this was a prominent story in the news up here, and then it lasted three days, and I've heard nothing since.
		So you might want to keep your ear to the ground to hear if you hear any more on this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you're in Canada, right?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If you can get me a number, if you can get me a number.
unidentified		I have your fax number.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You have their fax number?
unidentified		No, I have your fax number.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my fax number.
unidentified		Okay, then.
unidentified		I can send you the information if I find something.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Send it to me, and I will immediately follow up.
unidentified		I thought you'd be interested in this story.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I would even be willing to interview them from an oil company dungeon.
unidentified		All right.
		Well, I'll do a little digging and see if I can come up with any more information.
		And if anybody else listening knows any more about it, you know, call in.
		All right.
		All right, Arthur.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's cool.
		Thank you very much.
		Sure.
		Of course I would interview somebody like that.
		Or a pair of somebodes like that.
		But I fear for their safety, particularly in view of the fact that there has been no follow-up.
		First time caller line?
		No, actually, Weird Line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
		Oh, hello, Art.
		Let me turn off the radio.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes, please.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do that.
unidentified		Been enjoying it, and I'm so glad you're back.
unidentified		I missed you a lot.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I missed being here, believe me.
unidentified		I'm weird because I've had these strange and psychic experiences in my life.
unidentified		And I don't know how weird you think they are, but they seem to have fallen into three or four categories.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Like one.
unidentified		Well, okay, the categories are like whatever happened, a couple of past lives that I learned about when I was a kid.
		And you've got to understand, I'm 54 years old, and this is not just a hoot, but I really believe this about myself.
		In retrospect, these were past life experiences.
		And then I went through a period of some, you know, like out-of-body type visioning things that turned out to happen.
		And then there's a spiritual nature, and there was a couple of prophetic dreams.
		And I don't know.
		I felt strange about it all my life.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't think that's weird.
unidentified		It's not?
		no uh...
		well i just uh...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		that's the norm actually i have now people who eat glue swallow rocks collect toenails that's right That toenail thing there, that was a real kick in me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Can you imagine an entire coffee can full of toenails?
unidentified		I just wonder if that might not be a pollution problem in relationship to releasing mass amounts of athlete's foot into the atmosphere.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I never thought about that.
unidentified		I hope he keeps it closed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You mean with the plastic lid on?
unidentified		Yeah, well, it's filled with wax, preferably, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, thank you very much.
		No, psychic experiences cannot be considered weird on this program.
		They are the norm.
		Weird are some of the other things that we've heard about this morning.
		On my weird line, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Good morning, Art.
unidentified		How are you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, where are you?
unidentified		I am calling from San Jose, California.
		Okay.
		KSFO country.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		And glad to hear you're back from Egypt.
unidentified		Hope you had a good time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I did.
unidentified		And the reason I'm calling is the reason is I am none other than the great Satya Dinanda.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The what?
unidentified		The Great Satya Dinanda.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What is that?
unidentified		Well, I am a master in the Great White Brotherhood.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Great White Brotherhood?
unidentified		Yeah, you haven't heard of that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is that like some sort of racist thing?
unidentified		No, no, no, no, no.
unidentified		It's got nothing to do with that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it sounds that way.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, Great White Brotherhood.
unidentified		Well, white in this case refers to the light.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh!
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, then why don't you call it the Great Light Brotherhood?
unidentified		Well, that's another good name for it, actually.
		I'd take that suggestion.
		The important thing is whatever people feel that it means, you know, that means the right thing, not what the words are.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you like an offshoot of the trilateral commission?
unidentified		No, in fact, we're the reverse.
		The trilateral commission is a member of what we call the false Illuminati, the eye and the pyramid.
		But we are the pyramid in the eye.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wait a minute.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're the pyramid in the eye?
unidentified		That's right.
		There's two ways of looking at reality.
		Either you feel that your being is contained within a physical reality, which is literally the eye in the pyramid, which is probably what you were when you went off to Egypt, right?
		You were the eye inside the pyramid.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I was the eyes in the pyramid.
		I was even in the sarcophagus.
		Really cool.
		I've got a picture on the website.
unidentified		You know, I haven't gotten to that yet.
unidentified		I've got it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		As a matter of fact, I'm glad you mentioned that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you mind if I take a second out to tell everybody about something?
unidentified		I'd be delighted.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There was a UFO that appeared over Las Vegas this last Friday.
		And I received a whole bunch of faxes and email about it.
		And finally, somebody sent me a photograph taken from a video shot of what appeared over Las Vegas.
		And it's on my website right now.
		and if you thank you for reminding me so anybody was Anybody who wants to see what appeared over Las Vegas, it's at www.artbell.com.
		Thank you.
unidentified		Oh, you're welcome.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Anyway.
unidentified		So, you know, the sarcophagus figures into this thing because, you see, the pyramid was an initiation, an initiation place to show people that, to transcend from becoming the consciousness, the being trapped with inside physical reality, to get them to more or less die.
		And when they died, not literally, but figuratively.
		And when they died, they realized that all of physical reality is contained within consciousness.
		Actually, the reverse.
		That's what I mean by the pyramid and the eye.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How many people are in this, I presume it is a secret brotherhood?
unidentified		Well, it is a secret brotherhood, but it's not secret by virtue of the fact that we don't tell anybody.
		It's mostly secret by the fact that nobody will believe you when you tell them.
		That's what makes it so weird in the context of today's day.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		See, now that's exactly how the trilateral commission flourishes.
unidentified		Well, the darkness always tries to emulate the light.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But I mean, in a lot of ways, though your goals may be different, you sound a lot alike.
unidentified		Well, that's because the best disguise for the devil is his God, right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you consider, well, I'm sure the people in the trilateral commission consider themselves to be light beings.
unidentified		They do.
		But there's one difference you can always tell them, Mark, which is they will always try to trap and control people and take away their freedom.
		We in the Great Light Brotherhood, taking your suggestion, will always try to bring people to themselves.
		Like, I'm not a guru.
		I may be a master, but I'm not a guru.
		I would never ask anybody to follow me because, you know what?
		You know this.
		Everyone recognizes the truth for itself when they hear it.
		Everyone always makes the judgment of truth by themselves.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you guys have secret ceremonies and secret handshakes and stuff?
unidentified		Sometimes.
		Sometimes people get together, but not really.
		It's not really a brotherhood in the physical sense that we get together with meetings or whatever.
		But we know each other when we encounter each other and we talk to each other and we recognize the hallmarks.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, how would you recognize another brother?
unidentified		Well, one way to do it would be to talk to them for a while.
unidentified		And if they tell me the great secret, the last secret, which is there's only one consciousness in the universe, not many, then I know right away.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That it's a brother?
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's cool.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		Is that weird?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's weird.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Take care.
unidentified		You too, all right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Bye.
		You know what you're hearing here?
		This is Cusco.
		It's from Apuramac 3.
		And guess what the name of this cut is?
		it's called big water and and Now I ask you, is that cool or what?
		Perump, Big Water.
		From Appura Mac 3 by Cusco.
		Honoring my little town.
unidentified		You're listening to Art Bell Somewhere in Time on Premier Radio Networks.
		Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from October 21st, 1997.
		Coast to Coast AM from October
		21st, 1997.
		Coast to Coast AM from October
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		21st, 1997.
		You're listening to Archbail somewhere in time, tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from October 21st, 1997.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Here I am indeed, and we are doing what's called a weird line tonight.
		I'm doing this in preparation for becoming a judge.
		To be a judge, because Strange Universe is going to have a contest to find the weirdest person in the world.
		And I already have several obvious contestants this morning, don't I?
		And so I can see this is going to be fun.
		No question about it.
		Here's a fact from somebody.
		Hi, Art.
		Just about everybody I know, including myself, thinks I'm weird.
		For example, my favorite desert dish, excuse me, dessert, is a vanilla ice cream with a rich topping of pecto-bismol and a couple of slices of pickle.
		I also prefer to drive my car in reverse rather than forward and with deflated tires.
		What do you think of that regards from Merrick in Vancouver, D.C. You drive your car in reverse with deflated tires?
		Definitely abynormal.
		On my weird line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Good morning.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello there.
unidentified		That one broke me up.
		I'm so sorry.
		Yeah, I learned to do something a long time ago, and I talked to you off air for a little bit.
		Anyway, I can separate traffic, okay?
		And what I do is your Los Angeles listeners are on now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, of course.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You can separate traffic?
unidentified		Yes, what I do is I learn to do this through a certain amount of meditation and incantation.
		And what I can do is I can separate them just by, you meditate first, and you do this over a study of a period of time.
		And for the Los Angeles listeners, this will be important to them.
		I used to work in Long Beach, and I used to go over to a San Pedro area, okay?
		And that 405 over there is about 10 lanes wide anyway.
		And I was in a hurry always because I worked the night shift.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
unidentified		And the traffic would just get out of my way.
		Just get out of my way.
		And when I go past a car, as an example, when I'm driving, let's say up to Santa Barbara, when I used to do that, no, because I live in the Oregon coast at this moment.
		But anyway, what I do is I get up near a car and they always pull back because I'm thinking that they're thinking that I am going faster than them.
		And the truth of the matter is I'm not.
		And what they do is they back off their throttle and I go right past them.
		And I'll tell you what, it works 90% of the time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you induce in them a feeling that you are really, really going fast and they need to get out of your way.
unidentified		Absolutely.
		And the thing is, I stopped doing this.
		And these, your L.A. listeners will be able to verify this.
		For the last four or five years I lived in Los Angeles, which is in the late 70s and early 80s.
		There was eight shootings on the 405.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You don't think you were responsible, do you?
unidentified		No, no, no.
		I'm not responsible.
		But I thought that maybe if I did this kind of thing and people didn't know what was going on, they might take a shot at me.
		But there's a better one than that.
		Now, this one is a little different, but it comes out the same.
		I can stop the rain.
		Now, here is the kicker to that.
		I had this done through a motion.
		Now, I will say this is a motion.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You can stop rain.
unidentified		Yes, I've done it.
unidentified		I had a motion.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, then you are the answer to that famous question posed by Credence Clearwater Revival.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Remember that whole stop the rain?
unidentified		I'll tell you what, I could demonstrate it to you if you give me a reason to.
unidentified		No, this was the reason.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it doesn't rain enough here to make a good demonstration.
unidentified		But no, I seriously did this, and I have, well, why I say I have 125 witnesses or thereabouts, is I had a dear, dear friend that died.
		I fell prematurely, and I was very, very upset.
		And his wife, which was a dear friend of mine also, was very upset.
		And it was a rainy, rainy day that they buried him, okay?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
unidentified		And the thing is, is I walked her back to the car, the poor lady.
unidentified		Okay, so I did that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The widow.
unidentified		And the thing, yes.
		And the thing is, is I felt so bad.
		And the thing is, I felt bad through the funeral.
		Because this was an outdoor funeral because it didn't have the money art.
		It really was sad for me.
		Still sad.
		Anyway, and what I did is I talked to, call it God if you wish, but I wanted the rain to stop.
		I didn't want it to rain on her.
		He didn't matter.
		And so I knelt by her in the car, in the limousine and so forth.
		And during that period of time, it had stopped raining.
		And I've done this twice.
		And it was all over an emotional response from me, which is not the same as the parting of traffic.
		This was an emotional thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I understand.
unidentified		No, I think I have the power to do it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This is a hell of a year for you because there is El Niño.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know what that is?
unidentified		Yeah, you bet I do.
		Hey, when I can go off the pier and catch tuna and they get a marlin in Seattle.
		See, I live right up.
		Well, you know what Coos Bay is.
		Component.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You get a lot of rain up there.
unidentified		Yeah, I live there.
		And the thing is, we're getting fresh tuna right off the bay here.
		And the thing is, is tuna is usually 250 miles out.
		Okay, so that gives you an example of what's going on.
		And guess what?
		I live at a good position here and I've been able to And you take credit for that?
		No, no, no, I don't.
		No, no, no, no, no.
		Yeah, get it straight.
		I take credit for this house that I live in not to be damaged.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I see.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So in other words, you can have a personal localized effect.
unidentified		That is correct.
		And I wouldn't want to go any further than this.
		I am not God.
		I have a certain amount of power, and I've got it through my teachings and my ordinance.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that is, to most people, a little God-like.
unidentified		Well, yeah, well, I think we're all part of that one that is anyway.
		There is only one, by the way.
		I think you know that already.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I know, but there's a little piece of him in all of us, I think.
unidentified		I do believe that.
		It's called, it's a thing as I run a little group here, and I call it the Church of I Am.
		And what it means, I am God.
		And what I am God means is not an egotistical position.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Am I also tax exempt?
unidentified		If you wish to be.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've got to run, sir.
		I appreciate your call, and I appreciate your ability to be able to stop the rain.
		That's cool.
		I would like to see that demonstrated, particularly on, you know, like one of those steady, rainy days where you know it's going to rain all day long.
		We get very few of them in the desert, but I would love to see a demonstration of that.
		Good morning.
		You're on my weird line and on the air.
unidentified		Good morning, Mr. Bell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		It's a pleasure listening a program, but I might qualify for the category that you've stated.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You are?
unidentified		I might possibly individual, so far as I know, in the world that has a system that I designed that's keeping me alive and off-the-shelf hardware.
unidentified		I am totally 100% dependent upon pacemaker technology.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, there are many people with pacemakers.
unidentified		Oh, but that's not the story.
		The thing is that out of the million or so in this country of pacemakers, about 250,000 are totally dependent upon pacemakers.
		In other words, if one of the 50 or so parts, the component parts of a pacemaker malfunctions, they're dead.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They're dead, yeah.
unidentified		So over the years, I had tried to come up with some means to find a way to build a redundancy system for those who are totally pacemaker dependent, such as myself.
		And I finally was able to do this in 1983.
		I had the system implanted, and since that time, the system has kept me alive in one event when two pacemakers malfunctioned.
		And they malfunctioned in such a manner they were firing intermittently to keep the heart going.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Bad news.
unidentified		Bad news.
unidentified		So the point being is that I have just had my system rejuvenated, replaced in my state for the third time, except that this second time, or third time on the system, the physicians refused to go ahead because they couldn't understand why you would need more than one pacemaker.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So your idea, what you've done is to put two pacemakers in?
unidentified		This is correct.
		I used off-the-shelf hardware art, and we put in one pacemaker that runs a steady rate.
		It's called VVI, runs at, let's say, 80 beats.
		That's the primary power source.
		The secondary backup unit is set to kick in at 45.
		If the main pacemaker or the primary unit malfunctions or the lead should go bad, and it drops down below once it hits 44, the backup unit comes on and kicks in.
		It will keep me alive long enough to get the main source replaced.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've got you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you designed this yourself?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, how did you get them to implant it into you?
unidentified		I had one heck of a time.
		You cannot imagine talking to physicians as an aerospace type is like talking to a brick wall.
		I had a very devil of a time getting this thing in.
		Right now, I've got the secondary backup as I'm looking at a possible failure on the leads in the near future, and I just came out of the hospital where they refused to replace the second backup unit.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I understand.
unidentified		And they had me under anesthesia.
		It's a sticky thing, but the really unfortunate thing is I have had this unit, this system implanted, which is redundancy, backups.
		And aircraft, as you know, we have three backups.
		We have on the shuttle flights.
		We've got three power generators.
		On one flight, two of them failed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
unidentified		So it seems incredible that it is so difficult to get the medical profession to realize that it's not a medical necessity, as they say, having two pulse generators.
unidentified		It's a matter of redundancy or safety.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, with the pacemaker, of course, you cannot get near strong RF fields.
unidentified		Well, they have pretty well shielded that out.
unidentified		They put a couple of zeners in these things, which is a health.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're referring to zener diodes, right?
unidentified		Yeah, right.
		I haven't had any problems.
		I've been in power generating plants and had no problem.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's one thing, but an intense RF radio frequency field is something else again.
unidentified		Well, I imagine if you were in an MRI, it might shut you down.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, an MRI?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That would definitely do you.
unidentified		I think that might do it in.
		But the main thing is, as far as I know at this time, I'm the only person in the world with a redundancy system.
		It's a shame I can't get the word out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, try getting it through the FDA.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good luck.
unidentified		Exactly.
		Good luck.
		But I'd say that anyone that has a backup system for essentially total function of heart operation would be considered unusual.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, I wouldn't consider that weird, though.
		I would consider that to be a medical breakthrough.
		In other words, here is a man who has designed a backup that once the heart rate, which is supposed to be maintained at 80, drops to 40, the backup automatically kicks in, giving the doctors time to get another pacemaker in.
		He has designed his own backup system.
unidentified		Brilliant.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		On my weird line, you're on the air.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		Hi, Ard.
unidentified		How are you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		And welcome home.
		Thank you.
		Well, my word story isn't really weird.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, then it doesn't qualify.
unidentified		Well, no, but to me, I mean, I entertain past musical composers and writers in a non-commercial limousine.
		Huh?
		And they give me ideas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You mean like guys who have died?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's weird.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		And they give me ideas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You mean like the big famous ones, like Beethoven?
unidentified		Well, right now I'm with Marty Robbins.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Marty Robbins.
unidentified		I don't know.
unidentified		You're kind of young.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I remember Marty Robbins.
		Do you really?
		Of course.
		El Paso, Big Iron.
		I could name a lot of his hits.
unidentified		And then I had Rott Serling, and I put together 26-minute teleplays.
unidentified		I wrote 40 of them in black comedy type.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, isn't that sort of plagiarism?
unidentified		Why?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, like grave robbing?
unidentified		Well, but it's interesting.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it is interesting, but I mean, you're taking ideas from dead people.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Don't you feel guilty about them?
unidentified		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They come to me using you as a conduit.
		ideas and it's interesting because the themes with the old composition.
		Even the first lady of this country claims to have counseled with Eleanor Roosevelt.
		Right?
		So I guess if she can do that, then you can entertain famous composers who give you lyrics and music.
		I guess.
		Well, it's for the Rockies.
		You're on air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Good morning, Art.
unidentified		This is Dan in Virginia.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Dan.
unidentified		Welcome back.
		Thank you.
		Thank you.
		Oh, it's good to be here.
		I have a couple of questions.
		Before I get into the questions, there was something that happened last night.
		I was listening to WRC here in Washington.
		And within 30 minutes, right in the middle of your program, they start running this emergency test.
		Oh, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Stations are required to do that every so often.
unidentified		Well, it's very unusual.
unidentified		Most of the time when they do that kind of a test, they do it during a break, not in the middle of a program.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it depends.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sometimes it is an automated deal, and it just runs when it is told to run.
unidentified		I see.
		Okay.
		I was going to ask you, while you were in the pyramid, did you have any unusual sensations or expanded consciousness while you were inside?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Would you mind doing that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I will.
		Sure, I'll talk to you about it.
		All right.
		Please listen on the air there near our nation's capital.
		Yes, the answer is yes.
		And it occurred when I laid in the sarcophagus.
		There is actually a photograph of me laying in there.
		And let's see, how do I describe to you what I felt?
		I spoke words when I was lying in the sarcophagus, and there was a resonance that I did not just hear, but I felt in every part of my being.
		I'm going to describe this the best way I can.
		I guess I've been waiting for somebody to ask that question.
		In every bone, in every fiber of my being, I felt a resonance occurring.
		As I simply spoke, I heard the resonance, but more than hearing it, I felt it.
		Now, I don't know if this properly describes it, and I really, I just can't put the right words together to exactly describe to you what I felt.
		A deep, all-consuming resonance that I could feel in every fiber of my being.
		And that's the only way I can think of to describe it.
		And I have never in my life felt anything like that before.
		Now, it didn't lead to any out-of-body anything.
		However, given, for example, an entire night to go up there in the dark with nobody else present and to be able to lie in that sarcophagus, I can imagine that much more would occur.
		So I've done the best I can.
		That's what I felt.
		It didn't take me to any strange place.
		I didn't have an out-of-body experience or anything like that.
		But I did absolutely feel a resonance that was everywhere.
		And that's insufficient.
		I'm sorry, I can't do better than that, but that's the best answer I can give.
		First time caller line, you're on the air, huh?
unidentified		Yep.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Weird line, actually.
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you weird?
unidentified		No, you're talking about a carburetor?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A carburetor?
unidentified		I heard it on the radio a while ago, or at least I'm listening on the tape.
unidentified		I got a 100-mile-an-hour carburetor.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, first of all, you've got your radio on.
		that's a no-no you know uh...
		number two no we were not talking about only in passing other a couple of guys who claim to have something real hot up in canada and i said I got it off.
		You've got it off now.
		It's the old 100-mile-per-gallon carburetor story, you know, that's locked up somewhere in an oil company's shelf.
unidentified		There's a bunch of designs.
		There's like eight or ten designs for that.
		It's a vapor carburetor or a hundred mile carburetor.
		But I got one that's running on an engine, if you'd like to see it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where?
unidentified		I live in Houston.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So I'd have to come all the way to Texas.
unidentified		Well, I can bring it to you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		100 miles a gallon, huh?
unidentified		100 miles a gallon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In what kind of car?
unidentified		It's on a 350 Chevrolet motor.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		I've been using 350.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, that should be normally a gas hunt.
unidentified		Yeah, well, there's different Chevrolets, different cubit inches.
unidentified		Some of them are bigger.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you have this?
unidentified		I have one.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You have one?
unidentified		I have one sent in my garage.
unidentified		I've been working on this stuff for about 25 years.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you have any idea what the oil companies would do to you if they caught you?
unidentified		Yeah, I know a friend of mine was Fisher who lived in El Paso.
		He invented Michael Brown is selling them right now.
		The Ventura travels up and down.
		And he came up missing.
		So aren't you afraid of that?
		Well, I got a shop and I got some pretty mean old boys that hang around.
		Mechanics, you know.
		So if they get me, they get me.
		But the information will be out there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm sure that's what they all thought.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, you're not the only one who's done this according to history.
unidentified		Right.
		According to history, this system has been around for a long time.
		You can go to the patent office in 1932.
		It was the first vapor cooperator built.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you would what?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You would drive it out here and show it to me?
unidentified		Right now, I got it on the stationary engine.
		I'm building a generator right now so I can run it stationary.
		You'll be welcome to fly in there, and I'll pick you up at the airport.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now I've got to go to Texas.
unidentified		Hmm.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, let me think about it.
		Send me some information on it.
		You never know.
		I might do it.
unidentified		Yeah, it'd make a good show.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It would make a cool show.
unidentified		It's about, there's at least, I've got plans for at least seven different ones.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		All right.
		I appreciate the call, sir.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		West of the Rockies, you're on the air without much time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How you doing?
unidentified		I'm doing fine.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		My name is Jeff, and I'm in Sacramento.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, Jeff, KST country, of course.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You've only got time, Jeff.
unidentified		I know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		to get the honors.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you've got to do it.
unidentified		Okay, great.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, go ahead.
unidentified		Okay, from the world, from the high desert to the universe.
unidentified		Good night, everybody.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's it, Jeff.
		That's how it's done.
		From the high desert, indeed, from Jeff and from art.

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