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Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell - Robert Morningsky - Terra Papers

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art bell ▲ ● ▼		From the high desert in the great American Southwest, I bid you all good evening or good morning, as the case may be, and welcome to another edition of Coast to Coast another week of Coast to Coast AM from the Hawaiian and Facian Islands eastward to the Caribbean South into South America North all the way to the Pole and worldwide, of course, on the internet.
		This is Coast to Coast A.M. And I'm Mark Bell.
		And I want to begin the evening by thanking Nevada Bell, the telephone company.
		For a long time, I've been going round, round, round with them.
		I have a lot of computers.
		I'm way into computers, as you know, and my telephone lines have been efficient.
		And today they took the trouble to reroute the telephone lines, and those of you who have computers will appreciate this.
		I woke up, logged on, and instead of my usual 16-8s, I got a 26,000, 24,000, 26,000, 28.8.
		Incredible.
		So they have fixed my phone lines, and by the way, that may well affect the audio quality of the actual phone connections that we get as well.
		So thank you, thank you, thank you, Nevada Bell.
		Now, in a moment, we are going to join, or be joined by, I guess, Robert Morningsky, who is Hopi, and will tell us about Hopi prophecy and many, many other things.
		And the Blue Chart Sarkachina.
		I'm going to read you a little something sent to me by somebody, and this will surprise you.
		It did me.
		Listen now, if you own any stocks, mutual funds, or bonds, many of you have noticed the stock market has begun to come down, generally come down.
		I had a pretty good day today.
		However, I just heard at the top of the news that they are getting ready to raise interest rates.
		Market is not going to like that.
		Many wise people have already begun to sell stocks and mutual funds in anticipation of this action by the feds.
		Well, here it comes.
		This was not Hopi prophecy.
		This was North American trading prophecy.
		The Federal Reserve is an interesting organization.
		It's not part of our government.
		It is privately owned.
		And really, I don't have enough time here.
		And they control our money supply.
		I don't have enough time to tell you about it, but they will send you information on the Fed.
		So if you've heard about this Federal Reserve, and a lot of Americans have, you know, the Fed, the Fed, and you don't really know exactly what it is, here's your great opportunity.
		And listen, it's free.
		No obligation.
		No obligation.
		All you've got to do is call them and say, hey, please send me the thing on the Fed that Arpel was talking about, and they will.
		It's 1-800-359-4255.
		1-800-359-4255.
unidentified		Information on the Fed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, coming up now, Robert Morning Sky.
		But I was sent this email by Chris, and I won't give his last name, and he forwards the following to me from Robert Morning Sky's website.
		Ladies and gentlemen, there is no such thing as the Blue Star Kachina.
		The name Blue Star Kachina was a device of my invention that I used to bring some clarity to a visual display.
		Nanga Sohu, oh boy, I messed that up, I bet, the chasing star Kachina has never been called the Blue Star Kachina by any Hopi except me.
		There is no such thing.
		Last year, I began to speak out on the Hopi prophecies and their links to ancient Egypt and the Halebop Comet.
		I repeated a name that only I had ever used for the chasing star Kachina.
		I am the only Hopi who has ever called this star Blue Star Kachina.
		Yet, over the course of the last few months, several well-known researchers have used the name in their work.
		Not only was I never given credit, but these very same researchers are claiming to have spent time with Hopi elders learning the secrets of the, quote, blue star Kachina.
		This is a blatant falsehood.
		There have been many channelers, psychics, clairvoyants, other gifted individuals who have claimed to have received these revelations about the Blue Star Kachina from their spiritual sources.
		This is a blatant falsehood.
		Ladies and gentlemen, there is no such thing as the Blue Star Kachina in the Hopi world.
		The Blue Star Kachina exists only in the vocabulary of Robert Morningsky, and Robert Morningsky is a nobody.
		Is that an accurate quote, Robert?
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir, it is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did I pronounce it correctly?
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Actually, it was very good.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		The name of the kachina in question is Nangatsohu.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That wasn't very close.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Well, good enough, sir, for a non-Hopi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Can you, or would you please, instead of my reading it, would you tell us a little bit about who Robert Morning Sky is?
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Well, number one, let me Thank you again for the opportunity to be with you and with your listeners.
		I just am constantly pleased with the response that we get from individuals who have listened to the program regardless of the time of week.
		And I just really have to thank you very much for the opportunity.
		Who is Robert Morning Sky?
		I tell you, sir, I'm very happy and wear proudly the title Nobody.
		I am Hopi and Apache by blood.
		And yes, I have been a performer and I have a career.
		I think I sent you a resume very early on to show you that, in fact, I have been in the career field.
		I have been a dancer performer.
		I have worked in movies, documentaries, et cetera, all those things, which really in regards to research and the kind of topics that you get into in your program and what we deal with, it really is of no merit.
		What I am trying to say is that even though I am Hopi and Apache, that really has no bearing.
		I really want my work to stand on its own.
		As I've done with you on every program and every workshop and appearance I've ever done, I state that I do not speak for the Hopi.
		I do not represent any Native American tribe, any group.
		I speak only for myself.
		So basically, I hope that I can convey to your listeners that I don't want credibility based on a career, based on a discipline.
		I would be very happy, actually, if I could be nothing more than a voice like Art Bell just talking in the dead of night.
		I would love not to have to make appearances.
		And in fact, I'm not.
		But I'm a nobody.
		However, I have for over 30 years, based on some research that I began in college 30 years ago, I originally specialized in ancient religions.
		And in fact, I think as many of your listeners, I wanted to find out for myself, you know, is this religion accurate?
		Is the Hopi way of life, the Apache, the Hindu, the Buddhist, the Maori, the Aborigine?
		Where is the truth?
		And so I think like all of your listeners at a very young age, I decided I was going to pursue the truth in quotation marks, whatever that was.
		I was afforded an opportunity in college.
		I was able to take on a religious studies program, and my research has started from that point.
		I wrote in college 30 years ago a paper.
		I submitted it to my religious studies professor suggesting that the history that we are being given in our history books, that which we are being taught even in special courses like university, that in fact we were not being told the truth, that there was a hidden history, a history that was not being revealed.
		That very promptly got me a failing grade in my paper.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes, absolutely.
		This was in the late 60s when, believe it or not, the flower child, the hippie movement was big.
		And I took the documentation, the information that was in the library, I put it together, and I came out with a very different picture from what we are told.
		And in regards not just to one religion, but all the religions, they were not telling us the truth.
		And time permitting, we can discuss that because, in fact...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, you said you wrote a paper describing a hidden history of what, Robert?
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		I titled my paper Terra, T-E-R-R-A, one of the old words for Mother Earth, Terra, the Hidden History of Planet Earth.
		And what I did was I simply took the documents from, for example, and I'm not picking on one religion, but for example, I took documents that were a matter of public record.
		They could be found in university stacks and libraries.
		And I examined what the original documents said about that particular religion.
		And I found that what was being told to the public and what was being done in the back room, so to speak, were not the same thing.
		And I found, for example, every time that I examined one religion, not only was there an image that they were trying to portray and an underground reality designed to keep themselves in power, but I found that every religion seemed to be preceded by another religion.
		In other words, the roots of Christianity were found in an earlier religion.
		The roots of the Egyptian religions were found even earlier.
		And so I found myself having, because of my own desire, my own, at this point, passion, and having been branded a renegade with outrageous and blasphemous intent, and I have to actually at this point thank my professor for having done that because it was an inspiration or who knows what, but the impetus was that I was bound and determined to find the world's oldest religion.
		And so I had to take ancient languages, I had to learn how to read hieroglyphs, cuneiforms, and in fact I found that the key to unlocking these mysteries was linguistics.
		So in studying one religion, finding it's preceded by another one, I ultimately was brought to what I would suggest, and I say suggest because I believe there's even a religion older than the one that I have uncovered, I have come to a place where I believe there is at least a common starting point for most of the religions on the planet.
		Now, that was my original intent.
		That was my passion in the university.
		However, I now find myself 30 years later, having pursued the world's oldest religion, having to at least my satisfaction having a relatively good foundation that I can establish my work with,
		I find myself suddenly caught up in phenomena like hail bop, the crop circles, and all the present-day phenomena from the Phoenix lights, the phenomena that we had here just a week ago.
		It's just amazing to me, and perhaps I shouldn't be surprised, that the world's oldest religion, again, these are my terms, this is my description of the research we had done, the world's oldest religion was explaining the comet Hailbop crop circles and the phenomena of today.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, well, let's take some of it on.
		Let me read this to you.
		On Robert's last appearance on your show, he was suggesting that Comet Hailbop may be the blue star, Kachina, and the great white comet combined.
		I believe he's correct.
		Hailbob now has two tails.
		That's true.
		One white, one blue.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		That's correct.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's absolutely correct.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So they would like to ask you if that reinforces what you thought.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely, because I have to tell you, I was very fortunate.
		Just a couple of weeks ago, I was in Zurich, Switzerland.
		It's the only appearance I have made in over a year and a half since an accident that I had.
		But in Zurich, I spoke to some astronomers and some individuals who are researchers in Europe.
		And they were most interested in the Hopi prophecies, Native American stories, etc.
		And I presented a paper specifically for the Zurich conference.
		I had never released it in the States.
		I'm actually going to release it based on your program this evening here in the United States.
		And we discussed the prophecies, and I showed them that years ago I started talking about these events in Australia, of all places, with some Aborigines that I'd been working with and dancing with there.
		And we came up with, and we, I'm saying my family and I, I have brothers and sisters who I've adopted and who have been helping me with my research.
		We came up with a very reasonable scenario based on the Hopi prophecies and a little bit of linguistic work, Egyptian, et cetera.
		And a year ago, when I first had the opportunity to be on your program, and again, thank you for that, I suggested that the prophecies were telling us that when this long-tailed blue star appeared, and I'll explain the blue star Kachina in a moment, but when that one appeared, I was predicting that there would be a second white comet that would accompany it.
		Now, what I could not at that point tell you was when, whether it would be immediate, seven months, seven weeks, seven years, I simply didn't know.
		But we knew, at least according to the prophecies, that this white comet would have to appear.
		Well, lo and behold, we get back from Switzerland, and now we're getting obviously two tails, one blue and one white.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's the truth.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		And, sir, I have to tell you that I have moments where I say, my God, look at that, I'm right.
		And then other moments when I go, my God, look at that, I'm right.
		Because the prophecies are very clear as to what is coming.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, at times you freak yourself out.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		The prophecies do because they are just so good.
		And I have to credit my family a great deal for assisting me in picking these little pieces and putting them together.
		But I have to thank you, sir, because I really do believe that we are about to see some extraordinary phenomena in the sky.
		I take no credit in regards to the blue star and the white star, these two bodies that are appearing.
		I didn't psychically attune to or channel.
		This was hard work.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, let me stop you and tell you two things that are happening.
		One, you may or may not know him, Father Malachi Martin, who did not make an appearance last week, is going to make one this week.
		I'm going to be talking to his secretary, scheduling it in the morning.
		He is an advisor to two popes.
		And he wants to come on and talk about what is going to be seen in our skies this spring.
		And so there you have Father Malachi Martin, very high in the Catholic Church, also saying something is about to happen.
		And then we've got, I interviewed Alan Hale, a pragmatic scientist who would say, when he would listen to what you're saying right now, essentially, politely, I'm sure, bah humbug.
		Come on, folks.
		A comet is one of the oldest things in our universe.
		It goes back to the beginning of everything.
		It has no meaning beyond the scientific origin.
		You know, it is interesting, of course, because of its scientific origins, but meaning for humanity?
		A sign.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Well, I agree with Dr. Hale, correct?
		I agree.
		I have to tell you, I'm a very big skeptic myself.
		I didn't want to jump on Hale Bopp.
		I really have tried not to lead myself astray here.
		However, I do not believe that prophecy is entirely an exercise in psychic ability.
		And thank you.
		I'll explain that in a moment.
		This paper that we just released in Zurich, I am sitting here, I'm flabbergasted.
		The paper that we released in Zurich, which I was waiting to see the kind of response that we got in Europe before we intended to release it here, but one of the topics that we pursued in Europe, because I've got to tell you here, I was using my Native American essence, my presence.
		I danced, I performed, I told stories.
		I tried to open the door and soften it because what I wanted to talk about were not just the Hopi prophecies, but the biblical prophecies.
		In other words, what revelations and some of the other Bible prophecies are suggesting.
		And in fact, one of the most enigmatic of all the biblical characters And one which has seen its way onto your program, a character, a figure known as Wormwood.
		We have offered in this paper a linguistic analysis of what or who Wormwood is.
		It's not what most people think it is.
		And, you know, Art, I am astounded that the Hopi prophecies and this particular prophecy about Wormwood are virtually identical in what they're saying below the surface.
		So I would not be surprised, and I am very pleased that someone from an organization like the church, I shouldn't say organization, an institution like the church, is permitting someone to step forward and to speak.
		Now, Dr. Hale, whom I admire, who I respect because he is extremely conservative and skeptical, I absolutely admire that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He's a scientist.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		He is a scientist and he's pragmatic.
		However, there are far too many things happening with a comet, Hale-Bop, that suggest that it's more than just a comet.
		I could only say to Dr. Hale, and I've tried to reach him a couple of times, but he's a busy man.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, he is.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		I can only suggest to him that if it is just a comet, then I would find it hard to explain how a nobody like myself could make predictions about the comet and they come to fruition.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Now, maybe I am the luckiest man on the face of this earth.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, listen, I can tell you what Dr. Hale would say.
		He would say, you're getting a white tail and a blue tail because it's burning two different substances as it nears the sun.
		Hold on a moment, Robert.
		Robert, Morning Sky, Hopi, Apache, nobody?
		He'll be back with us.
		He is not nobody.
		This is CBC.
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		Now, here again, Art Bell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Once again, here I am.
		Good morning, everybody.
		My guest is Robert Morning Sky, Apache and Hopi, and we're talking prophecy, specifically this blue and white comet called Halebach, or the Blue Kachina, or whatever else you want to call it.
		It definitely is a comet.
		By the way, it has now passed at its closest point to the Earth.
		However, according to Dr. Hale and others, it is distinctly possible that as it approaches its closest point to the sun, it is going to get by a magnitude yet brighter in the next couple of weeks.
		It is in our skies an absolutely astounding sight.
		It really is.
		I'm up every single night now and every single morning watching it.
		There is something about it.
		Just a comet?
		I understand the scientists say that.
		Just a comet.
		Meaning deeper than just a comet?
		I kind of lean toward thinking so myself, and I'm not any part hopey or Apache.
		Back now to Robert Morningstein.
		Robert, I'm curious, on your website, and we've got a link up to your website from mine tonight, what do you have up there?
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry, what do we have up there on the site?
		Yum.
		I think the last posting, we put on a paper that I had released last year on what I am calling New Age dogma, in which I am really horrified to see some of what is going on out in what is known as the UFO Professional Speaking Circuit.
		I was very disappointed.
		I resigned from the circuit, and I issued a statement on the very last appearance that I made, as a matter of fact, in Phoenix, in which I suggested that there is almost a new age religion, a dogma that prohibits you from taking a position that is anti-New Age, anti-UFO, etc.
		I frankly don't want to participate in the circuit any longer, and I simply am not doing that.
		I've now made two appearances in a year and a half, one in Zurich and one in Los Angeles last weekend.
		And I do in the New Age statement, the New Age dogma, I do issue a statement in regards to the blue star Kachina.
		And I have to tell you, that's probably for me the biggest reason that I left.
		Because of the blatant misuse, the falsehoods, the deceit, the pumping up of egos and self-aggrandizement without actually considering why people go to these events.
		They want to go, they want to hear the truth, they want to hear research.
		I don't believe they want to know how special the speaker is or how wonderful he is.
		So I issued a statement because when I started talking about Hopi prophecies on your program, I had, for nearly 30 years, I had been Referring to a specific kachina, a figure in the Hopi world whose proper name is Nangasohu.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Nangasohu.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Okay, Nangasohu.
		Now, this Kachina figure, and very quickly, let me let your audience know that kachinas do not represent gods.
		They are not kachina dolls, the misnomer that's used in the tourist market today.
		They are representations of figures that we see, and by we, I mean the hopi, we see them in nature everywhere.
		The wind has the kachina.
		The bear, the eagle, everything has a spirit, a breath, an essence.
		And this is the kachina.
		Now, there are families of kachinas.
		There are animal kachinas.
		There are bird kachinas.
		There are star kachinas.
		In other words, several kachinas that represent the spirits of various different stars.
		Years ago, I was presenting a lecture at one of the universities here in Arizona.
		I was presenting the stories, the mythology, the legends, the cosmology behind these figures, and it was specifically geared towards the family of star kachinas.
		I had, for example, a figure known as Iwiro, who is known as, he has a black and white face.
		Sohu, who has a yellow face.
		And then there were several different star kachinas.
		And as I was explaining each one, the audience, again, not versed in the Hopi names and in the cosmology, they said, well, which one of the star kachinas are you talking about?
		Is it the yellow paws star kachina?
		Is it the black and white paws star kachina?
		And the figure even back then that I was talking about is Nangasuhu, who represents a long-tailed star.
		As a matter of fact, the longest-tailed star in all of the star kachina family.
		He is remarkable because, one, he has a blue face with an enormous four-pointed star right emblazoned on the front of the face of the kachina.
		The headdress that this kachina wears is astounding.
		It's enormous.
		It's like those war bonnets that you see in the old movies, and it trails all the way down to the floor.
		Nangasuhu is properly referred to in the Hopi world as the chasing star or even the meteor kachina.
		However, in the lecture, I pointed to this kachina as what I was suggesting at that time, as I am now, a participant in processes, and I referred to him as the blue pause star kachina.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've got you.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Okay, I came on your program, and I have to say that in my excitement to talk about the processes, I did not afford the audience an opportunity, the explanation, and I referred to this as the blue star kachina.
		I've been doing this for 30 years.
		Now, I have to tell you, when I presented this lecture, actually it was about 25 years ago, I had several elders and some hopi political elders, some councilmen, who came to me and said, you can't do that.
		You are misrepresenting.
		You've made a mistake.
		I explained to them, but I also understood that in simplifying the descriptive term, I may have conveyed a misimpression.
		So I've got to be honest, I caught a lot of stuff.
		I caught flack from some hopie because I had referred to this as the blue paw star kachina.
		And wouldn't you know, a faculty member wrote an article that ended up in one of the newspapers.
		I was quoted, and of course I suffer the brunt of the I know how that goes.
		Oh, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, now, listen.
		Here we have this comet, this kachina, this blue star, this whatever, you know, let's not play with names.
		Let's just talk about it.
		It has a blue tail and a white tail.
		What would that imply to you?
		Nangasu, is that correct?
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Nangasohu.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Nangasohu, thank you.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Nangasohu.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What would that imply if it has both a blue and white tail in the timeline of prophecy?
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Or the chronology.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm not sure how to put it.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Timeline is good.
		The chronology.
		The prophecies are relatively clear in the procession, is what I am using.
		They are saying they are describing the arrival of the twins, then the long-tailed blue comet appears in the sky, and then the white-tailed comet.
		Again, there is nothing in the prophecy that tells us exactly when the white star appears.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If these are one and the same, what would that then mean?
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		If they are one and the same, and my suspicion is that they are, we are looking at, at best, according to the prophecies, and again, this is my interpretation, I'm not speaking for the Hopi, but at best, we are looking at a seven-year timeframe.
		In other words, somewhere in the year 2004, according to the prophecies, we will see the return of a figure that is known, and in the prophecies he is named, the purifier.
		The purifier who will come, and again, these are the words in the prophecies.
		He will cleanse the earth.
		He will purify the earth.
		Those who do not have a good heart, and in fact, that's what Hopi means, a good person, someone with a good heart.
		It does not mean a person with a kind of blood.
		It means a kind of heart.
		This is where sometimes I get in trouble with the elders because I do not believe Hopi means a type of blood.
		But the purifier arrives.
		When he appears in the sky, and this purifier will have a red tinge.
		He is Not properly called the red star Kachina.
		That is inappropriate.
		However, he will have a red tinge.
		So I am predicting a red long-tailed comet, not as long as Hailbot, red-tinged, and according to the prophecy, when it arrives in the vicinity of Earth, it will pause.
		In other words, it's going to hold in place.
		A la, the sun holding in place for 24 hours and some of the other mysterious phenomena in the sky that we have heard in the past.
		In seven years at the outside, it could be sooner, folks, but my guess is seven years.
		A comet will appear bright red.
		It will pause very likely at the edge of the solar system or at least somewhere in the vicinity of Earth.
		And that is when we will face our makers.
		And I don't mean that as a religious comet.
		I am suggesting that we are going to see our ancestors, our star-being ancestors.
		I know that most of your listeners have probably read people, our authors like Zacharias Fitchin, Mr. Bramley, Mr. Hancock, whom I admire greatly.
		I had the great opportunity to be with him in Switzerland.
		We are descended of star beings, of extraterrestrials, of people from Sirius, Orion, whatever books you read.
		Virtually every researcher who is in this field now is suggesting the same thing.
		We have been visited in the past.
		The Sphinx, the pyramids, so many of the structures that we see that we cannot duplicate today were constructed, if not by these star beings, then under their direction and utilizing their technology.
		The question that has to come to mind, if that's true, if we have been visited, as I am suggesting, as Mr. Bramley, Hancock, Sitchin are suggesting, then where are they now?
		If, as I am suggesting and others are, that the face on Mars is a creation not of an earthly civilization that went to Mars, but one who was on its way back, where are these beings now?
		And I am suggesting that in their timeline, in their frame, their perspective of time, they are making a relatively immediate return.
		The old biblical, and a day shall be as a thousand years or ten thousand years, I'm sorry.
		I think that's exactly what's happening.
		We will, I believe, in seven years, meet and greet the beings who are part of my book, of Mr. Sitchin's books.
		We're going to see our star being ancestors.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And at that time, what do you, or is it just an impossible question, but what will be the purpose of the meeting?
		In other words, what is the agenda?
		What will happen?
		I've always worried a little bit about this purifier.
		It sounds kind of like a wiping out of the Petri dish, a cleaning out of the crude in your oven.
		You know, I'm trying to bring it down to earthly terms.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Right, and I think the analogy works quite well.
		You're not going to destroy the oven.
		You're not going to do away with the entire experiment, but you will clean out that residue, or I want to be very careful with the words.
		You're going to remove that which does not contribute to the function of the society.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I have no problem with residue.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I have no problem with that at all.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There's a lot of residue out there right now.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		The purpose of the agenda, and I know you're going to come to a break here in a moment, so I'm going to try and describe it relatively quickly.
		I am going to suggest that humankind is part of a grand experiment, not to create a hybrid race in the stars, not to do some of these outrageous stories that I hear, but in looking at books like the Bible,
		in looking like, in books like the Koran and so many of these ancient texts, and if you look at some of the old Hobi teachings or the Aborigine teachings, we, humankind, is an experiment, a grand experiment.
		And I believe we have been given the tools, we have been given the wisdom, we have been given the opportunity, in essence, to prove ourselves.
		Now, whether one looks at it in terms of the biblical God who is saying, okay, here is a chance.
		You are being tested as to whether or not you're going to be in heaven or you're going to go to the other place, we have had an opportunity.
		And I am suggesting that in seven years, they're going to come back and they're going to check on what we have done with what we have been given.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, now I'm going to ask you to put yourself in a position that you cannot do, but try for the sake of our conversation.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If you were the purifier, which would come and pause and take a look down at what's going on here, how would you, presently viewing society, what would your judgment be?
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		I'm glad you don't want to put me on the spot.
		Let me answer that in what I am sure the prophecies would suggest the purifier would do.
		If I was a purifier, abiding by the prophecies and what is suggested is going to happen, the qualifying factor in who is going to be oven cleaned or removed or who remains oven off,
		the key is whether or not this individual, one at a time, one human being at a time, has lived up to the promise made thousands and thousands of years ago.
		Now, in researching the world's oldest religion, I have come up with a scenario that not only matches hailbop and the crop circles, but it suggests what this path is.
		Given what I see in general across the globe, I would say that if I were the purifier, there wouldn't be a lot of people left on the planet.
		Now, that is not my choice.
		That's not my decision.
		If I personally had a say in it, I wouldn't do that.
		But based upon the rules, at least that which is established for the purifier, we have not lived up to the old ways.
		And perhaps in your next segment we can talk about what the old ways are.
		But we are not living up to the old ways.
		We have given up our humanity.
		We no longer have common sense.
		Our world is no longer concerned.
		We no longer are taught to make sense.
		We're taught to make dollars.
		And that is, I think, our downfall.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know something I'm curious about?
		How the purifier is going to pull it off.
		And by that I mean a lot of the people that you would most complain about would be in some of the richest parts of the world.
		And yet any calamity that might be visited on Earth would no doubt affect the poorest, the purest of those on the planet in third world countries.
		I can think of Bangladesh.
		I can think of Africa.
		I can think of a lot of third world countries that are impoverished where really the kind of people you're talking about as being the problem are not, and yet they will be, with any worldwide disaster, the most affected.
		So I haven't worked that part of it out yet in my mind.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		I would suggest very quickly, I understand we're going to break, but I would suggest that that is in part, in part, the purpose of the crop circles.
		I am very fortunate to know Colin Andrews, and we've spoken several times.
		I believe him to be an incredible researcher, and I am suggesting that the purpose of the crop surface...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I like cliffhangers, Robert.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		You got it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And that's a good one.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So hold it right there.
unidentified		That's the purpose of the crop circles.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ooh, how interesting.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, we'll pick it up at the top of the hour from the high desert where hailbox blazes.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is top of the morning.
		My guest is Robert Morning the Sky, and I think you really, really, really are going to enjoy what's about to come.
		I will warn you that some of the prophecy you're going to hear is troubling.
		And so, as when we discuss this kind of material, I recommend children, young children, not listen.
		They shouldn't be up now anyway.
		They're going to school tomorrow.
		And even you, if you have a problem with hearing this sort of thing, you know, go listen to somebody bash Bill Clinton.
		There's plenty of that going on out there.
		Now, in a moment, it's back to Robert Morning Sky, and we're getting to a very interesting part.
		Don't move.
		All right, back now to Robert Morningsky.
		Hopi and Apache, and we're talking about prophecy.
		And what we've covered thus far is this comet in our sky.
		And a lot of people are going to ask, well, Art, when the comet passes and nothing happens, what are you going to have to say then?
		Well, that is not the way prophecy works.
		This comet has meaning.
		If it means what Robert Morningsky believes it means, then we can tell you what is coming next.
		Now, one true scientific fact is that Comet Hailbach is now producing two tails, one blue and one white.
		That would possibly fulfill two prophecies, one of the blue-tailed star, or what we know as a comet, long-tailed star, comet.
		I'm trying to translate sort of as we go.
		And then the other, the white-tailed aspect of it, would fulfill what aspect, Robert?
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		It's going to fulfill one of the steps in the prophecy, absolutely.
		And so, you know, as we were talking a little earlier, whether Dr. Hale or any one of your listeners were to stand up and say, well, you know, the blue star is a result of this, or excuse me, the blue tail is a result of this gas or that phenomenon, et cetera, I agree.
		But see, what is important is not what is causing it, but the fact that it is happening.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I know that.
		Listen, Aaron just sent a fax, and it says it better than I've said it, certainly.
		Art and Robert, Dr. Hale is correct.
		The comet is just that.
		It's a comet.
		There's nothing magical about this ball of ice and dirt whatsoever.
		It's special in that it is a fantastic phenomenon and is a reference point in time for predictions made long ago.
		Ancient prophets could have referenced this point in time with a supernova, a volcano, or a flock of purple geese.
		Hellbop simply was the most prominent and unique.
		It should not be trivialized from either standpoint, science or spiritual, though the latter has yet to prove itself.
		Does that say it well?
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Oh, absolutely.
		That's extremely well worded, and I think it was Aaron.
		Thank you very much.
		That's exactly right.
		It doesn't matter what the signpost is made of, if it's just wood or just steel, etc.
		He's absolutely correct.
		What is important is that it is a signpost.
		And apparently, at least from the work that we have done, apparently this signpost has been seen before.
		And the prophecies are simply warnings from a very distant past telling us, look, when you encounter just this comet, it is a sign that you're going to see the next comet, et cetera, et cetera.
		So that was remarkably well done.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, you remember that TV show called Twilight Zone, that signpost up ahead?
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		There you go.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		That's exactly right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, so to catch everybody up, what will follow if prophecy about Hailbop as we've been discussing it is correct?
		What will follow will be within seven years another comet?
		Is that the right word, comet?
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		It's a word that I would use.
		See, I'm not sure that Hailbop is a comet of ball, and if it's a ball of ice, I think there is an iron or metal content to it, which is making it act the way that it does.
		So I will use the word comet because I think it conveys what we're trying to say, though it's probably technically incorrect.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, there will be something else that will appear, and when it enters our solar system, it will pause.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		That's correct.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It will be called the purifier.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		In the Hopi processes, it is called the purifier, yes, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And it will look down at Earth, all of us, and it will make decisions about who stays and who goes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And we were using little crude analogies about cleaning ovens and all the rest of it.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Yes, and my apologies if that was offensive.
		That's just the way that it came out.
		But that is what the prophecy suggests.
		It's very clear.
		It says that the purifier will pause.
		He will see how the people of the planet are behaving or acting.
		Have they lived up to the promises made thousands of years ago?
		If we have, then the purifier will not do anything that we would consider to be devastating.
		If half of the population is not living up to the old ways, using the terminology of the prophecy, then half the population would be removed.
		I have to explain to people that in the Hopi way, as in most of the primitive societies, I love that word primitive, in most of the indigenous peoples that I have had the great opportunity to work with, there is a very, very clear way of life that says that, for example, there is an entire family of monsters, of ogres, whose sole purpose it is in the Hopi cosmology to devour the children who are bad.
		They're known as the ogres, the Soyoko family.
		They come to punish the children that are bad.
		If a child was extraordinarily bad, they would literally be devoured.
		But a child who is good, someone who has not committed a sin, could actually play with these ogres.
		They could have a sandwich with them.
		You could live with them, and there would be no repercussions.
		So in the indigenous world, you can live in the midst of ogres as long as you maintain the agreement, as long as you don't commit a sin.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't doubt that.
		When I was a child, I knew I had some in my closet.
		I always kept it closed, and they never came out and ate me, so I must have been reasonably all right.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's an extension, basically, of what you're saying.
		But the prophecy does say that the purification will happen to those individuals who do not live up to the old ways.
		But there's also a catch here, because even in the prophecy, and once again, let me stress, these are not my words, but in the prophecy itself, it suggests that it is possible that the combination of the trio of the blue star, the white star, and the purifier, it is possible that they may not complete their assigned mission.
		Now, it does not say why, but it is possible that they do not complete their assigned task, and then there is a secondary prophecy which says, if they fail in purifying the earth,
		if they do not complete their task, then the next thing that we will see, and this is really interesting, a lot of possibilities come to mind, but the prophecy says that we will see a man from the West.
		This is where, for the first time, I think I actually see the term a man is used, who appears from the west.
		He will be recognized by the shape or cut of his hair.
		The wording implies somehow there will be some sort of an extraordinary cut or a special cut or I'm not exactly sure how to describe it, save the shape of his hair will be how he will be recognized.
		This black-haired individual from the West will have many followers.
		The word could be many or multitude.
		The implication is huge numbers.
		And that this individual will appear with a horde, with a multitude, and he will swarm over the earth.
		He will essentially Take over the earth.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you not describing the biblical Antichrist?
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		I think that a very good argument could be made that that is the case.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That wormwood would be a good analogy for the purifier and your black-haired dude, the walking dude.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		I think that the biblical wormwood, the figure in Revelations, is much closer in its persona to the purifier, but that it is part of the scenario.
		The black-haired individual from the West is separate from the purifier.
		If the purifier fails, then this individual will show up.
		And the prophecies say that if that happens, he will rule for a period of time.
		And again, that fits in with biblical prophecy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure does.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		But he will rule for a period of time.
		At that point, it will be clear to an individual or a being that we would refer to as the Great Spirit.
		He is identified as Taiowa.
		Taiowa is considered to be the creator of our solar system, the creator of our universe.
		Taiwa will be very upset if the black-haired individual from the West rules the Earth and that he will descend.
		And at that point, there is no distinction.
		The world would be wiped clean, and it appears to be worded to indicate another flood, and that in the wording of the prophecy, the only creatures that would remain would be the small lizards or the little reptiles.
		And I find that a very interesting wording.
unidentified		Yes.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		So there is and out a possibility that the purifier will not accomplish his task.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, let's back up a little bit.
		You said before the top of the hour that you thought that there are messages coming to us now in the form of crop circles.
		I said, look, if there is a worldwide catastrophe of any sort, more people, arguably, in the third world, the poor people, the more pure people, are going to be killed, are going to suffer and be killed as a result of whatever befalls us.
		And you said, well, but this is where the crop circles come in.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		That's correct.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So what did you mean?
unidentified		All right.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Returning back to the prophecy, and this is an amazing prophecy.
		It forms the heart of the research work that my family and I have been doing.
		The prophecy tells us that, let me backtrack for a moment and give you the basic of the prophecy so you'll understand the terms that I'm going to use.
		The prophecy begins with two brothers, the younger brother and the older brother, who are assigned a specific task by Taiwa, by the Great Spirit.
		The older brother is specifically told to go towards the rising star.
		This essentially implies the sun to most people, but I interpret it to mean in the direction of Venus and direction of the solar system.
		The younger brother is to remain on Earth.
		The younger brother will assist the good people, the hopi people.
		He is responsible for making sure that he travels the entire planet.
		He is instructed to mark his footsteps well and to cover the entire Earth during the absence of the older brother.
		Now, what was the key for me in interpreting this prophecy and assigning it to events in the sky versus actual beings on Earth were the instructions given to the older brother.
		He is very specifically told to go to a specific point and immediately turn around.
		He is not given a task at that point.
		He does not stop.
		He does not pick anything up.
		He simply returns.
		That was the first inkling I had that we were talking about an orbit where a body goes out and immediately begins its return.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In the case of Comet Halebop, 4,200 years, I believe.
unidentified		That's correct.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		The older brother, when he begins his return from his journey, it is said that there would be a bright star that would appear in the skies above Earth, and this would be a signal, a signal that the older brother is about to make his return.
		This first bright star that appears over the Earth, that appears in the sky, is in this prophecy, it is the first sign.
		It is the first signpost.
		And here is something that I don't think a lot of people know.
		I do not violate a tradition.
		I am not in any way breaking any promises that I made as I was growing up.
		One of the aspects of prophecy, and this generally holds true in Native America as a whole, not always, but generally.
		If a sign is the opening sign, if it is the first of a prophetic sign, this sign always appears in pairs.
		It always appears as twins.
		So in other words, if this bright star were going to appear, it would appear as a double, there would be two, and essentially what that means, I've interpreted and I did years ago, what we would see is that one comet would appear and sometime later in almost the same spot, almost the same size, almost the same data behind it would appear sometime later.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you're not surprised then?
		You weren't surprised, I guess, or maybe you were when you heard, God, I must tell you, out here in our desert, I looked up the other night.
		This was before the sun was even down.
		And here was Halebach blazing away in the northwest sky, clearly with a white and a blue tail.
		Just absolutely incredible to view.
		And so you obviously interpret this to mean, as a matter of fact, they are in the same place because they are one and the same, and we see both tales.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		And this is one of the things about Hailbop and all the things that accompany it that are just to me astounding.
		I was, when I first heard of comet Hyakutake, and of course at that time we had already knew that Hailbop was on its way.
		When I heard Hyakutake and I saw the projections as to where it was in the sky, they had already begun making projections about Hailbop.
		We found that they were going to, on April the 1st, a year apart, they would occupy almost the same place in the sky.
		Those of you who were out there last year will remember, if you looked up in essentially the same place last year, Hyakutake was almost exactly in that point.
		So I immediately began to think, oh my goodness, here we have the twins.
		And it is also possible that Hyakutake had nothing to do with the prophecy and that Halebaf was the first of a pair of twins.
		Now that we have two tales, I am astounded.
		It remarkably self-fulfills the prophecy.
		Now, let me try and tell you a story that, and I really mean no disrespect, but to me it was one of those, oh my goodness, here we go.
		When the comet was announced a year and a half ago, of course, the media, the websites, the net was filled with the different announcements, et cetera.
		And then when the picture started coming out, and I saw a photo of Mr. Bopp and Dr. Hale.
		And I say this with respect, but they looked remarkably alike.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I saw.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		They were just in the last Newsweek magazine, the one that was out last week, and if you see the photograph...
		Remarkably.
		And again, I mean no disrespect.
		But when I saw that the announcement was made by two men who look like twins, what are the odds of that?
		What are the odds of seeing a comet almost simultaneously?
		Apparently, it's a little greater than I thought.
		And I thought, oh, my goodness, here we go.
		Now, we also need to go back, and I know that there are a lot of people who heard about that white buffalo calf.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, we'll get to that.
		Hold on.
		We're at the bottom of the hour, so sit tight.
		We definitely must get to this crop circle business.
		It would be the key for those who are going to remain somehow, and I don't know how, so we're going to ask.
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		Now, here again, Art Bell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Robert Morningsky is my guest.
		Half Hopi, half Apache, and we're talking about prophecy.
		And I've got kind of an interesting little story to tell you here in a moment.
		All right, here are a couple of comments on Robert Morningsky.
		One, Art, I had the opportunity to meet Robert Morningsky at his recent appearance at the Prophecy Conference in Los Angeles.
		It was a big one.
		For over a year before and subsequent to this, I have familiarized myself with his work.
		When one sees the totality of his research, which extends from the very origins of man through our religious conditioning, New Age dogma, UFO, alien phenomena culminating in prophecy, it becomes very clear he is far from a nobody.
		His information is the result of hard, extensive research, and his tapes are accompanied by transcripts and a bibliography of his references and documentation.
		Sorry about that.
		Since most people have to be hit over the head with a tree before they realize they're standing in a forest, Robert does not hesitate to swing the tree.
		Agree with him or not, he challenges you to think and take a hard look for yourself.
		This is not the description of a nobody.
		That's from Daryl in Rancho Mirage.
		And just one other quick one from Rod in Sacramento.
		Wouldn't a comet heading straight for Earth appear to pause?
		That's a very good question.
		You know, it might.
		What about that?
		Robert, normally a comet is on a trajectory grazing Earth in some way or grazing the sun, and so we see it moving.
		But if something were headed directly for us, indeed, it would appear to be as a fuzzy star only without apparent movement otherwise, wouldn't it?
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely, and it's a very, very good observation.
		It is one that had occurred to us.
		If it's aimed at us, essentially to reward the statement, yes, it could be moving towards us and suddenly make a turn directly pointed at us and it would appear to pause.
		That's absolutely correct.
		Unfortunately, that only adds to the somewhat chaotic scenario that's presented in the prophecies that there might be a more impending or ominous ending to the planet.
		But he's absolutely correct.
		Those are the kind of things that we do need to consider.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, and what I want my audience to consider is the following.
		I have no problem moving, as you may have noticed, between two worlds.
		The world of Dr. Alan Hale, who is a scientist and who describes the science of this comet, and the world of Robert Morningstar, who describes the prophecy that this comet represents.
		And you really ought to think about the same thing.
		There are a lot of very dogmatic people out there who must live in one world or the other.
		I prefer to move through both.
		And by the way, let me ask you about something rather interesting, Robert, before I nail you down on crop circles.
		I'm going to make an announcement here that is kind of intriguing to me.
		We've got a new, I don't normally announce things ahead of time, but we've got a big new affiliate coming online on the 31st of this month.
		It's in a very unique place called Window Rock, Arizona.
		Do you know where that is, Robert?
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes, sir.
unidentified		Absolutely.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		It's in the heart of Navajo land.
		You're going to get a terrific response, sir.
		Congratulations.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		It is KTNN, and indeed, it is a 50,000-watt big clear-channel radio station that has generally only broadcast traditional Native American and some country-type stuff.
		And they're going to begin carrying the program full-time on the 31st.
		A little interesting point here.
		We'd already be on the air there, except that they just built a brand new facility on the reservation.
		And they would not want to put a new program or make any changes until the medicine man has come and blessed the new building.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		That's correct.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So that's why we'll be on the air on the 31st.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		And I have to say that that's quite a compliment to you, sir, because there are a lot of Native Americans.
		And again, I don't want to speak for them, but I will say that in several of the powwows, when I do get an opportunity to have exchanges with them, one of the first things that they commented when I started talking was, how can you do this?
		How can you go out there with these people who are, again, using their words, nonsense?
		They don't, I mean, self-aggrandizing, blah, blah.
		It takes a great deal for a group like Native Americans as a whole who have, I mean, you've got to realize that history is not being kind to the Native American in their relationship with the average American male throughout history.
unidentified		So I've got to tell you, that should be quite a compliment.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		That's quite a feather in your cap.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm very honored.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it is remarkable.
		And even though some people may think, well, now that's kind of a silly thing, they have to wait for the blessing.
		They have to wait for that time.
		That is precisely what you were describing a moment ago.
		You have to be able to live as a warrior in both worlds, that of the skeptic science expert and that in which the exercise in faith or belief or prophecy, when you look at them, they really aren't any different.
		And that's what I'm trying to do in our research is to say, look, Mr. Bopp and Dr. Hale are absolutely correct.
		It is a phenomena that has physics and dynamics behind it.
		But it is a sign post.
		There is meaning attached or brought by the appearance of this comet.
		And so I think you're going to find a receptive audience.
		I think you'll find some traditionals who in the traditional civilized world may not respond to you.
		But I think by and large, I have been able to do programs on the reservation in the past.
		The response has been very good.
		I think, sir, that you should be complimented.
		I think you'll do quite well.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, remains to be seen.
		It's been fun talking to them.
		When I get to talk to them, you don't talk to just a program director or a manager.
		Decisions are made by the tribal council.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		That's correct.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And so, yes, I am.
		I'm very honored.
		And some people will say, well, you can be so open-minded, your brains fall out.
		I think that you should be so open-minded that you listen to all sides.
		And I, for example, let me give you another example.
		Maybe this is brains falling out, but there has been this big argument between people who believe that God created us and other people who believe that God had not a thing to do with it, that it was evolution, that we crawled up out of the muck and came along and finally became modern man.
		Well, I've always felt that why couldn't God have had a hand in evolution?
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And so I live in both worlds, and I don't have a problem with that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And that is the same here.
unidentified		Now, the purifier.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This is not a good thing necessarily.
		Or it is a good thing, really.
		But a lot of people, a lot of oven scrapings are going to be gone.
		And somehow crop circles wind into this.
		What do you know about crop circles?
		What are they telling us?
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Okay, yes.
		And I thank you.
		We kind of got a little bit off track.
		But essentially, as I was trying to explain, the prophecies suggest that there are two brothers, that an older brother will return, and when he returns, the purifier will accompany the older brother, and or he will be the same.
		Now, the crop circles come into the picture in this regard.
		When the older brother returns, the prophecy says that prior to the purification, that he will come Searching for what has been interpreted as sacred stone tablets.
		And I hope he possessed stone tablets, as several indigenous people do across the globe.
		But the interpretation of stone tablets actually means writing, the sacred stone writing, which is interpreted as a petroglyph.
		And when he comes searching for the sacred stone writing, he will see the same writing that the younger brother has.
		The interpretation, or what seems to be implied here, is that the older brother will come back and he will be looking for signs which appear to mean the petroglyphs that are thousands of years old in some cases, but generally the ones that have survived are a few hundred years old.
		And he is looking for these signs.
		But it also says that, and these are the words, he will have the ability to write things down.
		This implies that he is able to write in stone.
		He is able to write in some sort of a medium that will convey the ancient writings.
		And all of the ancient writings are petroglyphs.
		One of the things that first attracted me to Colin Andrews' work in Crop Circles were that when I saw diagrams that he had basically sketched out on a chalkboard in Australia, we happened to be at the same event, I was amazed because I recognized in them what appeared to be reasonably close to very ancient Anasazi, which are the peoples that existed here in the southwest, very ancient Anasazi petroglyphs.
		So the crop circle formations seem to correlate at least to some degree with petroglyphs and crop circles were coming close together.
		So the prophecy, the return of the older brother, says that he will be able to write things down.
		And in the writing, in the words of the older brother, there will be a message for the good people.
		The implication of that is that he will be, if one can learn to read these writings, he will be telling us, one, what is going to happen, and two, the possible solution as to where we might go.
		Now, I have to agree that under normal circumstances, you have a comet that strikes the planet, you have the unleashing of volcanoes or some sort of airborne disease.
		The future does not look good if something like that occurs.
		However, it appears in the prophecy that hidden somewhere in the crop circles is the signal, the sign, the advice of where to go or what to do.
		I don't know.
		Until they start to manifest, I'll tell you a major portion of the research we're doing is applying the petroglyphs to the crop circles, and there is a pattern that is emerging.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, two things are happening.
		One is scientists look at the many and say, oh, these are fractal.
		And so they look at them mathematically.
		The other thing to note about crop circles is they're increasing frequency.
		Now, I don't understand the message, so I can't say urgency, but with the increasing frequency of them, and I'll bet there are more of them yet this year, I can imagine that might mean increasing urgency that we figure out what these mean.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Well, I would suggest that's the case.
		And when I first met Colin down in Australia, and we started to talk about the crop circles and the petroglyph link, one of the things that was interesting to me was that, you know, originally they started forming as just plain circles.
		They were very simple.
		There were no complex patterns.
		And then in 1990, suddenly there seemed to be a flurry of, at that time, primitive diagrams, double circles, dumbbells, you know, the very simplistic simple, more dramatic crop circles.
		And I thought, you know, what is interesting here is that the arrival of the Hale-Bop comet was seven years after the crop circles began to get very dramatic.
		One of the circles which, or patterns which seemed to be extremely out of place, it was out of context.
		It was extraordinary.
		As extraordinary to me as the Mandelbrot set, some of the other formations that have occurred.
		But one of the most dramatic was a series of snails.
		They were very clearly a snail with an elongated head and a tail and the antenna.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've seen it.
unidentified		Yes.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		And these crop circles were happening on dates and in times that were, again, we'll go back to some of the dates, but very significant.
		And in ancient Egypt, in the hieroglyph, the symbol for the number seven or seven seasons was a snail.
		My jaw almost hit the floor.
		Because what we have were crop circles suddenly signaling seven years from now, boys, you're going to see a dance in the sky.
		Seven years almost to the day when the crop circles started getting complex, we have Comet Hailbop doing its dance.
		We have seven.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We have the blue and white tail.
		We have the seven year prediction for the purifier after that.
		I can understand why your jaw dropped.
		Right.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		I mean, so much of it was beginning to fit.
		And again, with the prophecy suggesting that the older brother is going to have the ability to write things down in a way that the younger brother could see them, what more dramatic way could there be than to write in a field of crops?
		Now, a lot of people are not aware that it isn't happening just in England.
		We have crop circles appearing all over the globe.
		As a matter of fact, there are ice circles that have been forming, pardon me, in lakes.
		There are all kinds of formations that are occurring in the snow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let me tell you, there are snow circles.
		Correct.
		There are dirt circles.
		I've seen what appear to be what would have been crop circles in all kinds of medium.
		So you're absolutely correct, and they're occurring all over the world.
		And this hocum that Doug and Dave produced them in England is just absolutely ridiculous.
		Stonehenge, for example, with 191, I think it was, circles, was no more done by Doug and Dave than the Grand Canyon was dug by Art Bell.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		But you're absolutely right.
		It is just astounding to me.
		And again, and I'm sure that you have experienced it in your program and out there with some of the other phenomena that's going on.
		There is so much misinformation and disinformation.
		I know that some of it is presented, the individual presenting it is sincere and they're trying to make the point.
		But there is disinformation out there.
		It was astounding to me last, oh, just a few days ago on one of the cable networks.
		There was a segment where Colin Andrews was discussing that new phenomenon, the two lights that appeared, that video that everybody is watching.
		And there is another individual from a studio that was analyzing the crop circle.
		And I marveled because here is Colin Andrews, whose passion in life is to prove that these crop circles are real, that they are not the work of two bar hopping buddies, but that they really do have some substance behind them.
		He was very cautious and saying, look, this video is not what it's portrayed to be.
		And then you have a specialist who was saying the opposite, yes, it is, something's going on.
		Colin, I have so much respect for, as I do you.
		I mean, there are just maybe five people on the planet that I can have a great deal of respect because one must be cautious with what you're presented.
		And the crop circle phenomena, I think, are the key to what you are asking.
		What are we going to do when we are about to meet our makers, when we are about to meet extraterrestrials?
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		Top of the morning, everybody.
		I'm Art Bell.
		All right.
		My guest is Native American Robert Morningsky, Hopi and Apache.
		And we're talking about prophecy.
		And if by now, after listening for the last two hours, you too are not able to move with relative ease between what one reads in the Bible, what one hears from Mr. Morningsky regarding Native American prophecy, and the remote viewers, and the people like Father Malachi Martin, and the scientists like Dr. Hale, then you just haven't been listening.
		We're about to get the lines open.
		So if you have a question for Robert Morningsky, now would be a good time.
		Robert, I've got a couple of facts questions that I would like to hit you with before opening the lines.
		Would that be all right?
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		One, please ask Robert exactly what kind of people would be eliminated by the purifier according to prophecy.
		Please be as specific as you're able to.
		Would the purifier possibly use something like a plant pathogen?
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		The first, I'm sorry, the second part of the question, would it use a plant pathogen?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They're referring to a remote viewer named Ed Dames who believes a plant pathogen will be emitted by a cylindrical object which has detached from the hail bomb.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So that's where that came from.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		I've got to say that in that regard, in some of the claims that I have heard about the comet, I find nothing in the prophecy to support it.
		I see nothing either in the astronomy magazines, any of the data that's coming in from the contacts we have with astronomers or with Hubble.
		I don't find anything to support that.
		However, the prophecy does not rule that out.
		My understanding of the plant pathogen scenario, the, let me allow me to use the word crop dusting effect, does not permit you to isolate those who have the good heart, those that you don't want to exterminate.
		there's no way to protect them in that scenario.
		So I don't see that happening.
		I don't see that as part of prophecy.
		That one's just a little too far out for me.
		Now, in regards to the first part, can I be very specific?
		I will try to, in a very, very brief period of time here.
		As a matter of fact, as I said, there is a book that we just released in Zurich, and there is one that I want to release, make it available as of this evening with you, in which we get into the processes.
		However, we also explain who and what we believe is behind the prophecy, behind the comet Hail Ba.
		Let me, and it's probably going to take some of your listeners aback here, but let me briefly say that if one goes back in time, if one studies the religions of our planet,
		one of the first things that suddenly looms in front of one's eyes is that the concept of a divinity as a male essence, as a male God, is relatively recent.
		It's only a couple of thousand years or so old.
		Most of the oldest religions, and I'm being very careful with the word most, so far I haven't found one that does not suggest that the divine essence is female.
		For example, even in ancient Egypt, with the religions that were the precursors to the Hebrew and the Christian, even some of the names that are assigned to God in the Bible, in Egypt, these names have been used for thousands of years prior in regards to a female divinity.
		In essence, I am saying that the concept of God have for a much longer time been professed to be a female religion as opposed to a male religion.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Robert, I can't imagine God having a sexual in that sense.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But perhaps in the compassionate, nurturing aspect of femininity, one might imagine what you're exactly.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		And see, I mean, this is the marvel of Art Bell.
		You're exactly correct, because these religions that predate the present-day religions don't specifically assign what we would call a physical sex to the divinity, but more of, and again I use the word essence very carefully, the female essence is creative.
		If we look even to something like the Big Bang, that theory that says that the entire universe is born from one tiny little point that exploded and everything issues forth, that, if one looks at it, is female in its essence.
		In other words, the bringing forth of a complete life is female in its essence.
		It is not a sexual act.
		It is the void is essentially behaving in a female way.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The birth.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		The birth, exactly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Listen, we're wandering away a little, though, from the question, and the question was quite specific, and that is exactly what kind of people would be eliminated from or by the purifier, according to prophecy.
unidentified		Okay.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		The prophecy suggests that those people who have left of the old path, the traditions which, and I have to emphasize that in the Hopi world, this is a matriarchy.
		It is female-oriented.
		It is one of the few cultures in this day that still profess to admire and adhere to the femininity of humankind being the important aspect of life.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Mother Earth.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Mother Earth, exactly.
		What I'm going to suggest is that the promises made and the people that will survive are those who, one, respect Mother Earth, respect the women in their lives, who are in touch with their female aspect.
		And I'm not saying one excludes the male, but one needs to be in touch with that female aspect.
		And we need to remember what this entire experiment is about.
		That it is about compassion.
		It is about caring.
		It's about all those traits that we normally assign to a woman.
		For example, destruction is generally personified as male, creation as female.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Men are from Mars, women are from Mars.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		No, you know, that kind of thing.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		But essentially, the exactness, as much as I can get, those who remember the importance of the female essence in our existence.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no, that's well said.
		That's a good answer.
		All right, one more.
		Art, please ask if the white buffalo that was recently born has any significant meaning to Robert.
		It seems to have had an incredible impact on the Native American community.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		Yes.
		I started to touch on it.
		Thank you very much for reminding me.
		Back a few years ago, there was a white buffalo calf that was born.
		Other white buffalo calves had been born, but what was significant about this one was one, it was prophesied that the beginning of the transformation, the beginning of the end of this time, would be signaled by the arrival of a female white buffalo calf.
		Now, many elders did go, and many elders paid their respect, but I am willing to wager that there were many elders who were standing there looking at the calf, wondering when will the second one appear.
		Again, I go back to the explanation that the beginning sign must appear in pairs.
		So respects were paid, and I am sure many elders, and again I'm trying not to speak for them, but I am sure that they were wondering when or will the second one appear.
		Approximately five months later, believe it or not, a white buffalo calf, a female, was born.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		According to the prophecy, the first calf was going to turn brown and it would pass away.
		And in fact, that also occurred.
		So do I find any great significance in the white buffalo calf?
		Absolutely.
		It was the twins, just another confirmation that something is happening.
		One of the first things that I remember admiring about Mr. Bell was his using the words the quickening.
		And that is precisely what I had been talking about in Australia years ago before I even knew Mr. Bell existed, in which we were saying that time is going to be speeding up.
		Everything's going to be, it's going to appear to be going helter-skelter.
		And I'm not talking about as you get older that things seem to go faster.
		No, I'm talking about the children are aging more quickly.
		Even the youngsters who are walking in the malls today are wondering, you know, what's happening?
		Why is everything going so quickly?
		And the term the quickening is absolutely apropos to what the prophecies are saying.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Robert, here it comes.
		First time caller line, you're on the air with Robert Morning Sky.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Good morning.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		Lake Oroville, California.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		I have a question for Robert Morningstar in regards to Hailbots.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Robert Morning Sky, but go ahead.
unidentified		Rail Sky, okay, sorry.
		That's quite all right.
		Last year, I thought I saw Hailbots.
		I had a houseboat out on the lake, and I was tied to shore.
		And about 2.30 in the morning, my dogs had to go out, and I went out with them and sat out on the front deck, and I looked up in the sky.
		Directly above the houseboat was this humongous.
		It looked like a huge amoeba with a light shining from the back of it.
		And it sort of was pink and looked like a huge cotton candy ball.
		It was just incredible.
		I thought it was Hail Bob.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, Hale Bob should not have been that bright or apparent at that time.
		However, this brings up a very good topic, and that is UFOs.
		And I know that, well, here, let me read you a paragraph from somebody I know produces a magazine called Prophecy Today, a newsletter.
		Mr. Bell, when I saw Robert Morning Sky at the recent gathering of the prophets in Los Angeles, he mentioned, as he did again tonight, that he will not be doing any more speaking except at his own events.
		Would you please ask him why?
		Why the dissension with the ufologists and the UFO community?
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Okay, thank you.
		And I'm familiar with the magazine and can't actually recommend it.
		In regards, number one, to the lady's question, was this, I'm sorry, I may have missed it, was this a year ago that this blob appeared?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right, exactly right.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		If it occurred a year ago, then it was very likely the comet Hyakutake that she spotted.
		So that's probably the case, especially if it was during this timeframe.
		In regards to the question, why do I not make appearances any longer, there are two parts to it.
		One is delicate.
		But first, I got to tell you, I was on the circuit for a full year.
		I did 48 appearances in 52 weeks.
		And I found myself extremely disappointed with the posturing and the way in which the speakers were conducting themselves.
		My opinion, and my apologies to some speakers because I know they had the best of intent, but it seemed to me most more speakers were concerned with their own image and were very disrespectful of individuals who had come a long distance and paid quite a bit of money to listen to new research versus, gee, aren't I special, etc.
		So one, I don't participate in the circuit because I find them, how can I say that, they're not presenting the truth.
		They're not presenting themselves accurately.
		It's a very hypocritical circle, and I simply don't want to participate and to perpetuate...
		I will tell you that there are some producers who my last appearance was well over a year and a half ago, and I still haven't gotten paid for an appearance that I was promised.
		In most cases, people don't realize that the speakers generally have to cover their own expenses.
		They have to cover their own hotel.
		They have to give up a portion of their speakers' fees.
		They generally produce an audio tape for which the speakers do not receive one penny.
		And it's an outrageous circus out there, and I know people are going for the right intent, but I am extremely disappointed with the bulk of the promoters that are out there.
		The second aspect, very quickly, I did about a year and a half ago, I received some information that I passed on.
		I wrote a report based on some brand new information that I received from Europe in regards to some, how do I say this, there was a secret society and I don't like it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And it almost got you killed.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		And so for my safety, my family's safety, and I know this is going to sound extremely corny to some of your listeners, but there are some topics that you just do not talk about.
		And I know that people will say in this day and age, it's 97, et cetera.
		Folks, I'm sorry, there are some topics I will not talk about.
		And I will tell you that I have spoken to most of the major researchers on the planet.
		And they also have topics they do not talk about.
		There are just some things you just do not talk about.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you betcha.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There's probably a Marcy Park near you.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Robert Morning Sky.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		Yes, Art?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, where are you, please?
unidentified		Yes, thank you.
unidentified		I'm in central New Jersey.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		Okay, I'm on WCTC, New Brunswick.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, I love those call letters.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry, WCTC.
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's coast to coast.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		Well, art, I'm glad I have you.
		We've been viewing, my son, his friend, my uncle, have been viewing Hellbop.
		Tonight we have spectacular view.
		Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Oh, sorry.
		We actually saw Hellbop and we saw a piece of it come off and angle down to the right down into the sun.
		Oh.
		And also, it was beautiful.
		We've had a beautiful sky here.
		It's very quiet, very calm here, like a calm before the storm almost.
		So we're sitting out.
		We're watching Waiting.
		We listen to your show all the time.
		Robert.
		Hello, Robert.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		I'd like to say, about seven or eight months ago, I went to a spiritual gypsy.
		And she had told me that in my exit from the visit that when I first came in, she could not read me.
		She refused to read me.
		She lived with too much energy, too much.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We don't have a lot of time here, sir.
unidentified		Okay, so anyway, she has brought me back to my roots, which my father was an Orthodox Catholic Russian.
		And she's brought me back into my religion again that day transferred me.
		So if anything's happened, it's coming from our skies.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, that certainly coincides with what everybody seems to be saying.
		And, Robert, I respect you, but you're one person.
		But I listen to many people, and it's beginning to really bother me that these many people, you included, are all saying just about the same thing.
		And if people out there wish to ignore it, then, in my opinion, they are the ones who are liable to end up to be oven scrapings.
		We're at the bottom of the hour, and we will be right back with Robert Morning Sky.
unidentified		We'll be right back.
		Thank you.
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		Now, here again, Art Bell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Once again, here I am.
		Good morning, everybody.
		My guest is Robert Morning Sky.
unidentified		And we're very, very proud to have him with us this morning.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If you have questions for him, I would suggest you come down.
		Phone banks are all lit up, as they have been since the beginning of the show.
		But we are going to begin concentrating more on the phones.
		So get your dialer ready, and we'll dig in coming up next.
		Back down to Robert Morning Sky.
		And if you're ready, a lot of people have questions.
		So let's see what we can do.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air high.
unidentified		Good morning, Mr. Bell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning, sir.
unidentified		Thank you, sir.
unidentified		Another fine program.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm glad you're enjoying it.
unidentified		Where are you?
		This is Robert.
		I'm in the San Joaquin Valley, California.
		Okay.
		Before I mention the two things to Robert, you might want to know that at the top of the hour, Cuomo News, the lady mentioned that our ex-president, Mr. George Bush, is going to be making a parachute jump in Arizona for the first time in his 72 years since he was in the land on our bell, giving Mr. Bell another program.
		Anyway, they got to kick that.
		She'd like to hear that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did she really say that?
unidentified		Yes, sir.
unidentified		She did at the top of the house.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
unidentified		All right.
unidentified		Mr. Morningsky.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		It's an extreme pleasure to talk to you, sir.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		It's a pleasure to speak to you, sir.
unidentified		I agree with you 100%.
		I feel it inside of me.
		And what you said about respective women, that's how I live, taking care of this beautiful planet.
		I'm with you 100% on that.
		And the two quick things I'd like to mention to you, sir.
		Your name is quite apropos.
		Morning Sky.
		Because we look to the heavens in the morning to view Hailbuck in the morning sky.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
unidentified		And Mr. Bell, he mentioned about the Steves of the world.
		I like you or Robert.
		Maybe I'm to join with you in helping to keep the Steves from taking over this world to do the right thing.
		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's a joke.
		I wish I had caught that thing on Como.
		First time caller align, you're on the air with Robert Morning Sky.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		I'm Mal from Missoula.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, hi.
unidentified		And I've been enjoying this very much, all that you have said, Robert Morning Sky.
		My sister was adopted into the Hopi Indian tribe, and I attended a white buffalo calf ceremony five years ago as an initiation, five-day program.
		I mean, five days in 1983.
		But I have a question also.
		I've been very interested in the crop circles and the changes from simple to complex.
		And my question is, first of all, when was the second white buffalo calf born?
		How recent was that?
		I mean, this year?
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		No, actually, let me think.
		I hope I got the year right, but I know that I have the date right.
		And for Those who have heard what we've talked about in the past about the number 23, the white buffalo calf was born on September the 22nd, I believe it was 1994, just the year just prior to Hail Bob.
		And then the second buffalo calf was born May and I'm sorry, in May of 95, just prior to the announcement of the Hail Bop Comet.
		So September, I believe.
unidentified		Because I want to relate it to crop circles, you see.
		And I thank you for giving that because I follow the crop circles.
		I lived in Europe until last summer, and the crop circles have expanded, and the signs have become more complex.
		My question is, have some of the more recent crop circle signs, have any of them related, instead of mathematics, to any Hopi symbols?
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		As a matter of fact, yes, ma'am.
		We have released a book in which we show the petroglyph.
		And I'm going to suggest that the most common pattern, the most basic pattern that you're going to find in the crop circles is a small round circle followed by a second larger circle, and they are connected.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right, exactly right.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		And this is the uneven dumbbell.
		But one of the phenomena to the uneven dumbbell, and again, sometimes you'll find it a double, sometimes you'll find it in triplicate, you'll find all sorts of patterns around it, but generally somewhere in the pattern is the small circle followed by the larger circle with a third independent circle somewhere circling the other two.
		This, as I suggested in the book re-release, absolutely is the prophecy of the younger brother, the older brother with the purifier somewhere around them.
		And I'm going to suggest that's one of the most common patterns that you're going to see, the uneven dumbbell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, you have been alluding to this again and again, so I guess I'm going to ask you, you say you're releasing, you've got a book, or what is it you're releasing?
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Yes, and thank you, and I'm sorry because I get caught up in the conversations with you.
		We found that it was important to go on record in Zurich, Switzerland, about, well, I guess it was going on three weeks ago, on February the 22nd of last month.
		I don't know what month we're in.
		We released, in Zurich, Switzerland, what I consider to be the heart of Europe, we released a statement, and we released a book at the same time.
		I'd been sitting on it for quite some time, and we found an invitation to Zurich would be very appropriate.
		And in the statement, and this goes back to the earlier question, what specifically do we do, what exactly kind of people are going to be spared, the statement that I issued in Zurich, and it is in the book we released, the statement that I made there can be summed up best in this regard.
		One of the ways in which we will avoid the doom and gloom that some people are predicting is if we stop acting and thinking like human beings.
		Now let me explain.
		There isn't a religion, there isn't a discipline, there isn't an indigenous people somewhere on the planet.
		Virtually all of us are saying the same thing.
		We are descended from star people, we are descended from angels, we are descended from divinities, whatever word again you choose.
		We are descended of the stars.
		And as long as we look at what is going on around us as human beings, then we will never decipher the crop circles.
		We will not decipher the pyramid, the sphinx, the face on Mars, as long as we continue to look at these things as human beings.
		I think one of the things that I, if I could eliminate it from the face of the earth, would be the statement, well, I'm just a human being.
		That is, in my mind, that is a condemnation.
		It is a sentence to looking at the world, looking up, instead of assuming a position in the stars and looking down.
		I think we would have a greater respect for this planet if we were to look at it as if we were in the clouds looking down at the pollution and in the air, in the water, the destruction of the forest, and the smog.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I could give you the litany of the cushioning.
		In fact, I've written a book.
		It'll be out, I think, April 4th now is a date.
		Anyway, I want to ask you about your book.
		What is your book?
		Can they get it?
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Yes, thank you.
		May I give out our phone number?
		You absolutely may, yes.
		We have, actually we have two books that we're releasing, one on the oldest religion and the other one on the prophecies.
		Thanks to my family, they've encouraged the prophecy book we released in Zurich.
		It's called Morning Sky Prophecies.
		Not only do we get into really in-depth into the scenario of the comets and the Hopi prophecies, but again, we include the linguistic analysis of things like wormwood, some of the biblical prophecies, some Egyptian, Sumerian, some Nostradamus.
		And we put it together in a book and we've released it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And it's called, now wait, now slow down.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		It's called Morning Sky Prophecies.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		I include some of my own predictions based on what the prophecies have suggested in the past.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, what's the phone number?
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		They can reach us at two numbers.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		One is Area Code 602-404-8050.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Or area code 602-404-8094.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, now during what times?
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Usually there is someone who is in the office, which is really in my home, anywhere from 7 or 8 in the morning through about midnight.
		We put in horrendously long hours.
		And if nobody is here, there is an answering machine on both lines so that people can reach us.
		We have a fax number if they want to reach us in that regard.
		But the Morning Sky Prophecies book, again, we just released.
		And then this new one, which is going to, I think, really disturb a lot of people, is the world's oldest religion, in which we begin to define this is what it was, and this is Where we have been in the past.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, and again, area code 602-404-8050.
		Or area code 602-404-8094.
		Call between 8 in the morning and midnight.
		Pacific time?
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		I'm Mountain Time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Mountain Time.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Mountain Time.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Thank you for that.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		You bet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Robert Morning Sky.
unidentified		Hello.
		Yeah, I want to say hey to Robert.
		I was just wondering, you know, I mean, when we, you know, how you were talking about all the religions saying, you know, that we come from the stars.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		But, like, I mean, you think about Buddhism and the thought of maybe possibility of reincarnation, you know, and the thought of us who continuing here.
		You talk about like the comet that comes to expel the bad people, you know.
		What will be the focus in life, you know, afterwards?
		I mean, now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, afterwards.
		All right.
		After the purifier, let us assume the purifier does its job and the oven scrapings disappear.
		What then, what comes after?
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Okay, the basic concept of reincarnation as I generally heard it expressed on the circuit, on the speaker circuit, and you will correct me if I'm wrong, but the essence of what I understand is being said is that reincarnation, when one passes on, depending on one's life, the way one conducted oneself, you will return to planet Earth and you will be this or that or whatever the case might be.
		The actual concept of reincarnation came from what is called transmigration.
		And the difficulty I have with reincarnation, as has been explained to me by the New Age sophisticate, is that one is always going to come back to planet Earth.
		That is not generally the practice, or excuse me, the accepted notion in the primitive peoples and particularly in the Hopi in the sense that when this life is over, one progresses on to another world.
		It could be another star.
		It could be another galaxy.
		It could be another universe.
		Death is basically a transition.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I can accept that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I think, though, that the genesis of his question really was, after the purification, what will our Earth be like?
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		My sense, and boy, that's a tough one because if the purification occurs and the entire planet were cleared, and I do not see that happening.
		I really do not.
		I actually, I know it may sound odd, but I'm looking forward to the change because I think we're going to be the better for it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Almost everybody says that.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, and you know it's funny.
		Let me very quickly, I always hate to be put into the crowd and where you're all, you know, everybody's saying the same thing.
		In my past, anytime everybody says the same thing, the renegade in me goes like, okay, wait a minute, what's happening here?
		If everybody's saying the same thing, they must be wrong.
		But I find it fascinating for the first time in my life to be part of a group of people, for example, like Father Malachi, some Aborigines in Australia, some scientists, some physicists, some Native Americans.
		Everybody from so many different walks of life are saying the same thing.
		We're looking at a change, folks.
		And that is astounding to me.
		That is the first time in my life I feel like, gee, I am extremely proud to be able to stand in front of a group in Switzerland where you have an astronomer, you have a computer specialist, you have somebody from Italy who is suffering from stigmata, or I should be blessed with.
		But we're saying the same thing, and it is the first time in my life I'm not offended by someone saying you're saying the same thing everybody else is.
		We are facing a change.
		What's going to happen to individuals?
		My guess, worst case scenario, my guess is that we're going to come back to this planet in another 500, 1,000, 10,000 years, and we're going to have to do it all over again.
		My worst fear is that if there was an end, I would have to come back here and do it again.
		It's kind of like that Crownhog Day where you have to do it over and over until you do it right.
		Frankly, I would just assume right now go back to the old ways, go back to the old traditions, once again allow for the duality of the great spirit, not just the male essence, but to bring in most definitely the female essence, return to that old way, and then, frankly, when it's over, I would like to go to the Pleiades.
		I'd like to go to the stars of Orion.
		I'd like to go somewhere else.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This one here, I hate to sound slip, but been there, done that, see, you're talking about graduation, and the way I see it right now, we're flunking.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Robert Morning Sky.
unidentified		Hello.
		Yes, I had a question for him.
		Oh, good.
		Where are you?
		I'm in Washington State.
		All right.
		Now, I've heard this guy named Monty Judah, and he's talking about how Hillbop has an electric field going around it, and that it will actually, as it approaches the Earth, last night, I guess it was, that it will affect our poles and make us have longer days.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't know who this person is you're talking about, but I haven't heard any of them.
unidentified		Oh, no?
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		I agree.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		I've not heard the name, and I haven't heard the prediction.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		First time caller line, you're on the air with Robert Morning Sky.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		How are you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm all right.
unidentified		Where are you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's good.
		Get that sucker off.
		Where are you?
unidentified		I'm in San Diego, California.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		KFNB.
unidentified		Yeah, thank you.
		I was just up at the High Desert this weekend up by Joshua Tree.
		Yes.
		And I was, you know, I had heard something about the comment on Arbel show before about, you know, the prophecy, but I've never heard it related like the Naobi, the way Morning Sky has presented it.
		And it was really, really weird because right after we went up into this high little valley and this one gentleman owns 10 acres and it's just all natural and it's completely secluded.
		And I felt like it was like a I got a really spiritual experience from it, but the main thing was this little raven like, you know, circled and just I was kind of feeling just a great inner piece and this little raven came on the rock right next to me.
		And he just like looked at me and then he flew like right up and I had just observed his the comet that you know all weekend long I've seen it like three, four times.
		But I swear he flew right up at the sky and then I kind of caught like a shadow of the comet again and I got a sense of peace and then I flashed on the Ixla and the Congress Captainita about birds being being able to see like a bird would see without being learned ha without having everything that had been taught to you, seeing it from the eyes of outside, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I think I understand, yes.
		Here in the desert, I get some email and faxes from people in the cities, Robert, and they can't see this comet.
		Or if they can, they barely perceive it.
		And they can't begin to understand the way it looks here, or perhaps where you are.
		I don't know, but here where the skies are dead clear and the Milky Way extends from one horizon to the other, the comet is so spectacular that I can't find words to properly express it.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		And I think that is the sadness of civilization.
		And I invite people to look up what the word sophisticate means in the dictionary.
		I mean, really look it up.
		But I think if one looks at the comet, and you have to understand that what we're looking at, as I understand the last estimate, the diameter of this thing is about 25 miles.
		Now, for me, that's approximately the size of the city of Phoenix.
		It is approximately 123 million miles away.
		Now, as I understand it, right now, the comet Halebop is approximately twice as far as Mars.
		Now, the other night we were looking at the Mars body, and it was reflecting light.
		And Mars is, as I understand it, what is it, something like 5,000 to 6,000 miles in diameter.
		And it was nowhere near as dramatic as this comet.
		I know.
		I think if you go out in the desert, if you leave the city, go out and take a look at it.
		It is such a humbling experience.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		It really is worth doing, folks.
		Robert, we've got a break here.
		Can you do one more hour?
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes, sir.
		Thank you.
		I'm just enjoying myself.
		Thank you very much for the opportunity.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Robert, Morning Sky will be right back.
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		Sorry, I can't resist that.
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		Here, once again, is Robert Morning Sky.
		Hi, Robert.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Good morning, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
		All right, here they come.
		First time caller line.
		You're on the air.
		Where are you calling from, please?
unidentified		Aloha.
unidentified		This is Jonathan on the Big Island.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The Big Island of Hawaii.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Well, I'm kind of like really in a little bit of shock here.
		This is my first time calling the Art Bell show.
		Whoa.
		Well, I want to thank you both for being at the head of your field.
		Art, I want to thank you.
		This is like the most important radio show on the planet.
		Oh, thank you.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		I agree, sir.
unidentified		Robert, you might remember me.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes, I think I do remember you there, little brother.
unidentified		Well, we spent a lot of time in the UFO conference in Las Vegas together, and I made friends with Robert, and I really respect what he's doing.
		And for the people out there in Radio Land, open ears.
		What you hear now is special, and Robert Morning's guy is a very special brother.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		And I thank you very much for that, John.
		And I will say that I have not made arrangements to make any appearances save one with Brother John in Hawaii next, I think it's in November, sir.
		Thank you for that.
unidentified		November 14th, 15th, and 16th.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		We're going to have the second Pacific UFO conference on the Big Islands.
unidentified		Well, there are first one.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There are harder places to go than Hawaii.
unidentified		Yeah, well, real blessed here in paradise.
unidentified		I think that we have a lot to offer as far as setting an example for the rest of the world, so we're all trying our best.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, Danny, specific question.
unidentified		Yes, Robert.
unidentified		When I met with you at the conference, we discussed certain things about alien visitations and alien civilizations which have contact with our world, whether or not the normal human beings realize it.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Yes, that's correct.
		And I have to tell you that, and thank you, because one of the difficulties that this prophecy presents us, and so far it appears to be remarkably accurate, it does warn us that prior to the arrival of the purifier, prior to the arrival of the older brother, that there will be additional entities, other star beings that will appear.
		Now, please understand what I am trying to present you as a word of caution.
		This is not about doom and gloom.
		I am not personifying all extraterrestrials and star beings in this regard.
		But the prophecy is very clear.
		We will be visited by star beings who do not have the best for us in their minds.
		And let me give you this example.
		I am Native American, and I'm very proud of that.
		But a few hundred years ago, there were Native Americans who in their world saw these extraordinary floating ships in the water, in these great waters.
		These were unidentified floating objects, right?
		And alien beings from a superior technologically advanced race appeared on the waters.
		Now, many Native Americans rushed with open arms and accepted them as the benevolent, wondrous alien brothers.
		All I can say is that a few hundred years later, these divine alien brothers who made promises of sharing these wondrous new knowledge, that there would be all these fantastic things for us if we were to accept who they were blindly,
		all I can say is that I am part of a race, part of a culture that accepted blindly the appearance of alien beings and welcomed them with open arms.
		I am suggesting, folks, with caution, let us not assume that every extraterrestrial who shows up has the best in mind for us.
		Again, it's just a caution, folks.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no, I think it's a good one.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've been saying that for a long time.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		My people, I am a result of a group of people who blindly accepted the benevolence and assumed that they were all here for our own benefit.
		So please, let us be cautious.
		Let us be careful.
		Let us not go in.
		As you would not accept everybody who shows up at your door, you would not welcome them in and open your life up to them.
		Let us please, with caution.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, remember the white guys who showed up on the East Coast.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		There you go, and they're unidentified floating objects.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		At Wildcard Line, you're on the air with Robert Morningsky.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		Hello there.
		Mr. Morningsky, and much admiration for you and Mr. Bell.
		Last week on Art Bell's show, he was interviewing Richard Hoagland, and Ed Dames sent in a axe, and I believe he said that he thought that this comet would split in two.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And could that be, or would that be any indication in your prophecies as the twins?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, even with Ed Dames and his remote viewing and commenting about Helbop splitting in two, you've got to sit back and wince a couple of times when you hear about the two tails.
		Now, I don't know that that means that it is split at all.
		In fact, we don't even fully understand the nature of comets.
		It may be several orbiting objects.
		It may be one object.
		It may be many things.
		But one thing's for sure.
		You can look up yourself and discern it.
		It's got two distinct tails, one white, one blue.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Robert Morningsky.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		I'm in Minnesota.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay.
unidentified		First, I'd like to say great show, as always.
		Thank you.
		And I'd like to ask Mr. Morningsky, if the Purifier fulfills his task with speaking about the Mother Earth as we have been, I was wondering if there would be any geological changes.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Are we talking about Earth changes?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		My sense of it is that that's just a natural process of Mother Earth that it's going to happen anyway.
		However, I do believe that we're causing a lot of the problems that we're going to be confronting.
		In other words, I think the Purifier's task is only going to be aided by some of the things that we are doing.
		On the other hand, it is amazing to see the ring of fire, the volcanoes, the earthquakes, and all these other natural occurrences that are seem to be speeding up.
		In other words, the number of earthquakes are increasing in number as well as intensity.
		Certainly, several volcanoes have started smoking.
		This is one where it could be a process, a natural process of earth.
		It could be part of the phenomena.
		I do not believe that hailbop is going to cause the pole shift, the ice cap shifts, some of the things that I've been hearing.
		It is far too small to cause something at the distance that it's at.
		However, the processes do suggest some changes.
		One of the most probably prominent is the shifting of the poles is predicted as a natural process of the Earth, but it is going to be in conjunction with the purifier.
		Do I foresee changes?
		Yes, very likely pole shift, very likely the rising of the waters along the seacoast around the planet.
		And very unusual, but what is being described in the prophecies as a firestorm, which in my mind, at least the way that it reads, it appears that we're going to have fire from the sky.
		Now, I don't think that means comet.
		It may be small pieces, but I don't think it's going to be a huge body like Hail Bob.
		But a firestorm seems to be the most unusual thing predicted in the prophecy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Does that help?
unidentified		Yes, it does.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Very good.
		Thank you.
		And west of the Rockies, you're on the air with Robert.
		Morning Sky.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Good morning.
		My name is Bill, and I'm calling from Crete, Colorado.
		Hi, Bill.
		Wanted to make a comment, quick comment, and ask a question for Robert.
		I lived in Arizona for a while and was spending time on the Salt River by the White Mountain Reservation and saw a UFO come down and land on the reservation.
		And I thought somebody was coming and visiting with a medicine person, maybe passing on some information or something.
		The question that I had to ask, is Robert familiar with Mary Summeraine's writings, The Phoenix Rising, that prophecy?
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		I am only just familiar with.
		I will tell you that I have deliberately tried to avoid reading the works of other individuals so that my work is not either biased or slanted.
		I know of the work, and for the most part, the people I know have high regard for the writing.
		I personally have not read the book or directly familiar with it.
		In regards to, very quickly, the Salt River-White River conjunction, that is very clearly just south of the site where Travis Walton had his famous experience.
		But let me tell you something, and I can say this on the record as long as I don't get very specific.
		There have been at least three instances in the last few months where apparently some residents of one of the reservations here in the southwest, three separate incidents, they report that there was a landing,
		that there was communication, and in one instance, a couple of elderly women were so disturbed by the visit and the message that they went to the, how do I describe it?
		Let's say the council headquarters, and they made such a scene that the council closed down the shops and the businesses that accommodated tourists because of these elderly women and their message.
		And so I guess what I'm saying to you is that there have been at least three incidents on the reservation where there were landings, there was contact, and there were messages.
		It is not appropriate for me to speak for them or about them because it becomes the business of the tribe.
		So without being specific, I will tell you that the White Mountain area is very active.
		There seems to have been at least three contacts made in the last few months, and certainly in the last weeks, Phoenix has been absolutely, everybody in Phoenix is astounded because we had four days in a row of lights appearing in the sky, and particularly last week where we had one body that appears to have been possibly as big as a mile in diameter that went from Phoenix north to Prescott.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know, did you see any of these?
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		We saw a video, and I got to tell you, the explanation that the National Guard and the sheriffs are saying about flares, I'm sorry, folks.
		I have seen military operations.
		I have seen flares at work.
		These were not flares.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think flares are the rough.
		You know, when you're down in Florida, it's swamp gas.
		When you're in the desert, it's got to be flares.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		I guess so.
		Would you believe we actually had a media person suggest that there was some sort of the equivalent of a desert swamp gas that might be causing them?
		I couldn't believe this.
		They actually went on the air and said this.
		However, one of the prophecies, and we touched on it last time I was on your program, but one of the prophecies that may be disturbing suggests that we will see, the wording is very clear, warriors descending from the sky.
		And a second part, or another part of the prophecy, I should say, suggests that we will see balls of light, silver balls of light descending in the west.
		And so I would suggest this indicates certainly some sort of visitation and certainly the appearance of some sort of extraterrestrial with some sort of contact.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		First time caller align, you're on the air with Robert Morning Sky.
unidentified		Good morning.
		Good morning.
		My name is Danny.
		I'm calling from Jacksonville, Florida.
		Yes, sir.
		My question is about the crop circles.
		Now, I may be wrong, but I mean, it's obvious that they're made by someone or something intelligent trying to communicate.
		If I was trying to communicate with another planet, I would try to give them something basic to start with interpreting, and then maybe first the warning, and then after that, the message about what to do.
		Do you think that that possibly could be why the first crop circles were so basic, and then now they've become more detailed?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'd say that's a pretty good answer.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Oh, absolutely.
		Yes, I think you've explained the and answered your own question.
		Absolutely.
		They're getting more complex.
		They're increasing in number and frequency.
		And so, yes, I think we're very slowly being groomed to getting the answer, whether it be in mathematical terms or I believe it's going to be strictly visual.
		I think you're absolutely correct.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wildcard line, you're on the air with Robert Morning Sky.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Art.
		How are you doing tonight?
		Just fine.
		Where are you?
		I'm in Eagle Point, Oregon.
		Okay.
		I kind of went shopping around flea markets last Sunday, and I found two things that were of interest.
		One was a poster of the Pointer Sisters, an original play, Bill.
		Thought you might be interested in that.
		You know I would.
		Yeah, well, I got it for you if you wanted.
		The other thing is, I found a book, and it was titled A Miracle of the Ages, and it was written by a guy named Worth Smith in 1931.
		And on page 150, it mentions the quickening, a tremendous quickening that people will go through.
		And the book is all about the ancient pyramids.
		And page 145 refers to a star called the Evil One that appeared in B.C. 2144.
		And it says that the second time it appears, it'll be seven times lower in the horizon than before and will signal the complete dethronement of Satan.
		Now, if you add 2144 to 1977, that comes up to 4141, which is about the approximate orbit of Hale Bob.
		And then it also says that on September 17th of 2001, Christ Millennial Rule will begin.
		And so I thought that was rather an interesting book, and I was wondering if you'd be interested in having a copy of that.
		You know I would.
		Again comes the answer.
		Any questions for Robert?
		Well, I was just wondering, in regards to the pyramids, it seems to me like most religion really begins and ends with the pyramids.
		And I was wondering if he has any comments about that.
unidentified		Okay.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Yes, with all the respect that's due, I don't agree that most religions start or end with the pyramid.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		I think it has played a major role in many of the religions.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Robert, that's going to have to do.
		We're at the bottom of the arrow once again.
		It just flies by, doesn't it?
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Yep, thank you.
unidentified		Stay right where you are.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We'll be right back.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This is CBC.
unidentified		I'm about to lose the gun, but I think I can stay.
		I'm going to sign up.
		Art Bell is taking calls on the wildcard line at 702-727-1295.
		That's 702-727-1295.
		First time callers can reach Art Bell at 702-727-1222.
		702-727-1222.
		Here again, Art Bell.
		Would I like a pointer sister?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A poster.
		What a silly question.
		I love them, as you know.
		Good morning, everybody, and welcome in.
		My guest is Robert Morningscott, Native American, Hopi, and Apache.
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		All right, back now to Robert Morningsky.
		Robert, you there?
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Good morning.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning.
		All right, Lodz, people, first time caller line.
		You're on the air with Robert Morningsky.
unidentified		Hi.
		Good morning.
		I'm from South Dakota, and I'm Native American, too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		What I have, many years ago, my grandmother told me a story about the prophecy of the white buffalo.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sir, I can barely hear you.
unidentified		The white buffalo?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The white buffalo, yes.
unidentified		Are you aware of that story?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, we've been discussing that all evening.
		You must have missed it.
		There have been two white buffalo, one that was white and then turned brown and died, and the other born then in 1995, May of that year, I believe.
		Is that right, Robert?
unidentified		That's it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And so everything in...
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Well, actually, it seems to have appeared in other cultures and other eras.
		I know that this may be disturbing, but there was, for example, in ancient Christian times, there was a cult, a group that believed that Jesus was in fact twins.
		There seems, as a matter of fact, to be some documentation to support that premise.
		So even in biblical times, even in ancient Sumerian Babylonia, there seem to be pairs that appear that open the prophetic events, whatever they are.
		So though it's probably a stronger tradition in Native America because we have not been totally absorbed yet by the culture around us, other societies did have essentially the same concept, that twins opened up the beginning of significant events.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And here I thought those girls were just selling bubblegum.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		On Wildcard Line, you're on the air with Robert Morningsky.
unidentified		Hi.
		Hello?
		Hello.
		Oh, hi, Kenny.
		Great.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's you, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		I'm in San Diego.
		All right.
		Anyway, I was just curious, this is like probably the most sensible culmination of all the different types of philosophies in a rational way of, you know, how people are supposed to act and what we're all here for.
		I think it's great.
		Anyway, I was just curious, how could the way the hobby civilization or society was, is directed, or is there like, is it a high how could it be translated into, or how could we change ours simply, like from a grassroots level, to kind of slowly incorporate those ways of living, you know what I mean?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, yes, I do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, she's asking, how can we slowly begin to change when everything seems to be going the other way?
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		You know, that's a difficult question because obviously I grew up in the culture, I grew up with the traditions, and so it's difficult for me.
		As a matter of fact, I oftentimes ask my family, you know, is this making sense?
		Or have them explain to me why certain things occur.
		I mean, there is a cultural problem I have.
		I have tried with some elders I've spoken with and other individuals, even the Aborigines.
		And at best, what I can say is that our perspective, and again, I'm not trying to speak for them, this is just a generalization, but our perspective seems to be more oriented to the simple, to Mother Earth.
		And if I can sum it up in one word, it's probably the word respect.
		And I find that sadly lacking in the civilized world.
		But I think respect and link that with the word female, and that's probably the best advice I can give.
		One needs to start looking at the world through a woman's eyes and through the eyes of a star being.
		How I can suggest someone would do that, I don't know.
		Simplicity.
		Truth is actually simple.
		It is not complex.
		It's very simple.
		And love, for example, which is something that poets and writers have tried for thousands of years to write about and describe, I don't think love is meant to be described.
		I don't think it's meant to be defined.
		I think it's meant to be experienced.
		This entire thing we call life, we are visiting a land of living things.
		And the point is not to explain or define as much as it is to experience.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Love is something you know when you feel it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's as simple as that.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Used to the Rockies.
		You're on the air with Robert Morning Sky.
		Where are you, please?
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		Is this Arab Bell Show?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it is.
unidentified		This is Chris from Chicago, Illinois.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Chris.
unidentified		And I'm also of Native American extraction myself.
		And one of the things, beginning to the crop circle phenomena, I've been studying them for some time, you know, trying to make some sense out of them.
		And some of them appear to be some kind of machines, like magnetrons, for an example.
		And others appear to be very similar to some of the sigils used in ancient books on black magic.
		One that comes to mind specifically is the spirit Forneus.
		And, well, from one thing it was that I have a new kind of magnet, one that I've been told is physically impossible, but I designed it myself.
		And when I was drawing the diagram for it, one day I happened to look through a magazine and found one of these crop circles that was identical to this thing that I have.
		This is an electromagnet.
		It has two like poles.
		I know all the experts say it's impossible, but I have four of these things right in my place.
		Well, that I didn't built myself.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Send one along.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We'll take a look.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We'll look forward to it.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Robert.
		Morning, Skye.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Hello, Arch.
		Hi.
		I'm calling from Fairbanks, Alaska.
		Wow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Way up there.
unidentified		Oh, and it's beautiful.
unidentified		And Hailbop, believe it or not, is almost two inches long in the sky.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you know, I've heard that way up north there in Fairbanks that it flies across just about the center of the sky.
unidentified		Yes, it does.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that must be something.
unidentified		And I'm in Fairbanks, and even with the lights, you can see it.
		It's as clear as day.
		I'd like to ask Morning Sky, a two-part question.
		Sure.
		Morning Sky, I've been to the Hopi Reservation, to Old Arabe, many, many times, and I have a couple friends there.
		And I would, being up here in Alaska, retired now, I'd like to ask you, could you please explain the first part, what the white angel is that the people in Old Arabia refer to as the white angels?
		And the second part is...
		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The white angel.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Yes, okay.
		Again, with respect for the tradition and the people that are there, I don't speak for them and I would not pretend to do that, so I am not trying to duck the question.
		It would be appropriate to ask someone who could speak on their behalf.
		Old Oribe is the oldest village in the entire United States.
		There was trading in existence going on in Old Oribe when the Spanish were landing on the eastern seaboard.
		And out of respect for them and their tradition, and again my refusal to speak for the Hopi, I apologize.
		I'm not able to answer that question.
unidentified		So are you saying that none of your prophecies, because I'm sorry, but we do not get Art Bell until midnight, so you've already been on for two hours.
		We'll hear it after 3 o'clock, though, the first two hours.
		Are the white angels at all referred to in any of your prophecies?
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		In my prophecies, I've released a book in which I describe the Hopi prophecies and others.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		But again, my feeling for the, and I know what you're talking about, it is not appropriate out of respect for your position for me to talk about it.
unidentified		Arti's 100% right.
unidentified		By the way, Old Arabi, the Smithsonian Institute has proven beyond a shadow of doubt has been in constant in the same spot existence for the last 5,000 years.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, you've got another question.
unidentified		Yes, the second part of the question is: could you please tell me what your prophecies are for here in Alaska?
		And one last thing, please, Art, would you ask your wife to have an old Baba wish give you a great big hug?
		You're as sweet as pie.
		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's very kind.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are prophecies specific for places like Alaska, Robert?
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		No, generally they're not.
		They generally are a pan-global phenomena.
		The closest I would suggest might be mentioned in the prophecy.
		One of the prophecies, a kind of a sub prophecy, suggests that there are twins who guard the two poles and that they will switch positions.
		My interpretation of that is that it means a pole shift, but generally a pole shift involves some electromagnetic anomalies and generally some sort of weather change in the vicinity of poles.
		But that's as close as we get.
		They are not specific to a locale.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Let me just take one quick break to say this before we continue.
		I'm not even going to describe the Alaska cruise to you.
		August 23rd, we're going to Alaska in the best, I think the best Alaskan cruise ever devised by anybody ever.
		If you would like to come with us, they now have a way for you to finance immediately your trip because it's on the princess lines.
		And so they have this immediate way to finance.
		If you're interested in coming on the trip, there are two phone numbers east of the Rockies.
		Call 800-633-2732.
		That's 1-800-633-2732 west of the Rockies.
		It's 1-800-848-7120.
		And I say this because, you know, we're about to run out of space.
		We're almost booked.
		West of the Rockies.
		Quickly call in the morning, 1-800-848-7120.
		Back now to the lines.
		First time caller line.
		You're on the air with Robert Morning Sky.
unidentified		Hi, how are you doing, Art?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, where are you?
unidentified		Crack down in Phoenix.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Okay.
		I saw something a year ago in the Arizona newspaper, the Arizona Republic, in the state section.
		It was taken from South Mountain.
		It was a flash of lightning, and the caption overhead was the beginning of the monsoon, storms.
		And in that flash of lightning, at the very top of it, you could see the face of a person in that picture.
		And I'm wondering if David Morning Sky, because he's here from Arizona, if he happened to catch that same picture.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		No, but you know what's interesting is that, number one, I have a little girl.
		She's four years old.
		Her name is Stormlight.
		She is named after a figure in the old Anasazi legends about a woman who walks and is only visible in the storm.
		She effectively is lightning.
		She is passion.
		I do have a photograph mounted prominently on my wall of one of the monsoon storms here in Arizona where you can see this woman walking in the clouds.
		So I don't know if it's unique to the area, but the legends about Stormlight, the woman who walks in these storms, is well known.
		And I do have a photograph, though likely not the same one you have.
unidentified		Right, right.
		I also have at my wedding a photograph that was taken of my wife and a couple of our friends.
		And standing directly next to my wife is an anomaly of faces.
		It is in the foreground.
		There's a good reference that it's not a light, it's not overexposure or something of light because you can see the videographer videotaping the wedding cake behind it.
		So you can actually see through this thing.
		But it is a makeup of many faces.
		It's red, orange, and white in the center.
		It's reddish on the outside, orange as you get toward the middle.
		And it's a number of faces.
		I wonder if you've ever seen anything like that.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Well, actually, we take several expeditions into the different canyons in Arizona and Utah.
		One of the things that we have found is that you can oftentimes on still cameras and video, you can record phenomena that the human eye doesn't see.
		We recently had an incident where there were some individuals exploring in a cave looking for some artifacts and petroglyphs.
		And one of the people felt themselves nudged.
		Turned out after examining the video that there were lights flitting around the cave.
		So there's a lot more going on than the human eye can see.
		The band of visible light that we see is really pitifully small.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We are woefully short on time, but you have a book called Robert Morning Skies Prophecies.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Morning Sky Prophecies.
unidentified		Yes, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Give me the phone numbers, please, one more time where people can get those.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And the best time to call folks is between 8 in the morning and midnight.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		We keep horribly long hours.
		Thank you.
		Yes, they can reach us at Area Code 602-404-8050.
		Or Area Code 602-404-8094.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, I'm going to repeat those because otherwise I go crazy trying to give them to everybody.
		It's Area Code 602-404-8050 or Area Code 602-404-8094.
		Is there anything else that you want to get out real quick before we end all this?
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Two things very quickly.
		I have released the prophecies book, which was released in Zurich, and then I do have one tonight that I want to start making available tomorrow that's based on the world's oldest religion.
		And I thank you very much for the opportunity.
		And the last thing I'd like to say, besides thank you, is in your new venue up in Window Rock, Navajo Land, the best thing I can say for you, well done, Brett.
unidentified		Well done.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's very kind.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much, my friend.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Take care.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And that, my friend, is Robert Friends, is Robert Morning Sky.
		And yes, that is going to be a lot of fun.
		And I thought it might be an appropriate time or night to make the announcement about what's going to happen at Window Rock, right in the middle of the Navajo Nation.
		It is unprecedented.
		It is KTNN, and they are a 50,000-watt radio station on 660, on the dial, 660.
		And we will be on there beginning on the 31st.
		Can you remember that?
		The 31st.
		So I'm very much looking forward to that.
		And again, I would like to remind you, if I might, that if you would like a copy of tonight's program, and I realize that you certainly might, you can get it by calling the following number, 1-800-917-4278.
		That's 1-800-917-4278.
		Now, that number is good 24 hours a day, and I do that in my own defense because we've had a great big series of hot shows, and I spend all my time giving out those numbers.
		So let me give it to you one more time, please.
		That's 1-800-917-4278.
		And I think that what Robert Morning Sky had to say was exactly right.
		In the end, if you don't want to be oven scrapings, what it probably all comes down to is love.
unidentified		Pure love.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Have you ever wondered about that?
		What really moves the universe out there?
		I think it's love.
unidentified		Don't you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, from the high desert, we'll be back with Open Line shortly.
		Don't forget, I'm ensconced in a chat room right now.
		And if you'd like to join us, we're on America Online.
		Enter keyword art bell, and then come on in to the Grassy Knoll chat room.
		We'll be right back.
unidentified		We'll be right back.
		Thank you.
		Call large bells.
		Troll free.
		West of the Rockies at 1-800-618-8255.
		1-800-618-8255.
		East of the Rockies at 1-800-825-5033.
		1-800-825-5033.
		This is the CBC Radio Network.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You bet it is.
		Open lines coming up.
		Anything you want to talk about, spare a game.
		Good to be here.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Yes, is this Art Bell?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, it's Howard Stern.
unidentified		What?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This is Howard Stern.
unidentified		Howard Stern?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There's a girl over here taking her clothes off right now.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you have a question for her?
unidentified		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it's Art Bell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What can I do for you?
unidentified		I wanted to ask you about that radio you've been advertising, the one with supposed to be better than the Sony.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it's the ATS 909.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Have you used one, seen one?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I wouldn't say it otherwise, of course.
unidentified		I mean, is it that much better?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it is.
		I'll tell you what the difference is.
		Do you have a Sony?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You've got a 2010?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, I've got one here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And it's a damn good radio.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The only problem with it is, and I'm sure you've noticed this.
unidentified		Overload?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		I don't know if I don't get overload.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, yes, you do.
		I do as well on shortwave.
		And you'll notice when there is a strong station nearby, and you've got a lot of antenna on the Sony, it'll bleed.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is the word.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That doesn't happen with the 909, and what they've got is sharper filtering inside to prevent that.
unidentified		Is that also the one that has that button where you can log in all the stations?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Correct.
		Yeah, look, the 2010 is grand radio, but it's now older technology.
		And the 909 has everything it has, plus everything you would want in a newer version of the 2010.
unidentified		Does the FM play stereo?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And it's got RDS, you know, so the.
unidentified		Well, see, I'm blind, so I couldn't use that.
unidentified		That's a digital.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You wouldn't care about that, right?
unidentified		But anyway, does the FM overload?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No.
unidentified		I mean, it picks up.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, that's what I'm trying to tell you.
unidentified		Does it pick up real good, like far away stuff?
		Yes.
		Oh, well, great.
		That sounds great.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, sir.
		Glad I was able to answer.
		You know, look, I don't open my mouth about something unless I've tried it.
		I just don't do it.
		You know, I don't accept advertising without trying the product.
		Unless it is a product that I don't have a need for.
		And then I advertise it usually only with a guarantee.
		In other words, if it doesn't do what it claims it does, you get your money back.
		I can't use everything, but when you hear me say, I endorse this, I'm telling you, I've tried it, then I'm telling you the truth.
		I don't BS about that kind of thing.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to have to hang up if you don't speak.
		Goodbye.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Yeah, this is Machine Gun John from Bonnie Lake, Washington.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Machine Gun John?
unidentified		Well, you labeled me as such last night because I tried to tell you about a three-hour vision that I had concerning UFOs.
		And I just wanted to let you know that if you're a fair man...
		No, but if you're a fair man like you say you are, I never said I was fair.
		Well, when a person has a biblical vision, maybe it's worthy to take note of it because, you know, you're letting people that do tend to go new age.
		You're letting Indians or whatever have their say.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did you listen Sunday?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I had a minister on a Pentecostal minister.
unidentified		Yeah, I did, but I don't agree with you.
unidentified		I see.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So in other words, it's only fair if we have your version of religion.
unidentified		No, no, no.
		That's not fair at all.
		But I would just say that just like the man that you just had on, he even said that there are beings that have come down to this planet or coming that are not necessarily what they appear to be.
		And in this vision that I had, I was shown exactly that.
		And I was shown that there's a great deception that is going on on this planet.
		But there are also, if you want to call them good aliens, which I believe that they are angelic, there is that also going on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, sir, look, you're welcome to believe whatever you want to believe.
		And I have no corner on the absolute truth about it.
		So if you want to believe that all of it is religion one way or the other, you know, UFOs, good or bad, angels or whatever you want to believe, I have no problem with that.
unidentified		Well, I'd like to also say that in the Bible, God says that he left an enzyme in Gaza for the nations to see.
		And I would suggest that this ensign would be the pyramids.
		I mean, it says in Gaza.
		And I would also like to say that as far as prophecy goes, that thousands of years ago, there were prophets in the Bible as well as Christ that predicted the very things that are being talked about by people today.
		But I would also like to say that according to those prophecies, that the enemy of our own well-being would also prophesy to us in accordance with those things, and then he would also split in some things there that would not really be entirely correct.
		And as far as the vision that I had goes, I mean, I saw horrendous things happening on this planet also.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, look, I only referred to you as Machine Gun John, was it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Because certainly you would view, in all likelihood, little green guys, going back to the conversation yesterday, as probably devils or demonic spirits.
unidentified		Well, sir, if God says to a man in his spirit, in his psyche, whatever you want to call it, that I have put you on a tower to be watchful of an enemy that may be approaching, then should the alarm be founded or not?
		Okay.
		Look, I appreciate your call.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't argue with what you believe, but it's obvious that if the little green guys came down and began to come down the ramp, you'd definitely go postal on them, and you know it.
		So, you know, I wasn't putting you down.
		I was just observing.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		Is this Mr. Bell?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, it's Howard Stern.
unidentified		No, you are.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		Yes, I wanted to ask you, regarding these prophecies and things, there was something that kind of struck me.
unidentified		A few nights ago, they were talking about the planet Jupiter, and one of the moons was called Europa.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Europa, that's correct.
unidentified		And they think that there may be some life, perhaps.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Indeed, we've just had a spacecraft go by Europa, as well as the other moons, and the photographs have not, repeat, have not been released for whatever reason.
unidentified		Well, when you were talking about the time, something just struck me.
		I remember, isn't it Dorothy C. Clarke?
		Did he not have one of his movies, 2010, in which this planet, which they were to leave alone, was Europa?
		That's what you have access to all of us.
		That's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You may go anywhere else, but do not touch Europa.
unidentified		Isn't that beautiful?
unidentified		Isn't that amazing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't know if it is or not.
		We'll find out.
		I suppose we'll land something on Europa and we'll get vaporized.
		Something about Arthur.
		You know, there is somebody I'd like to interview from Sri Lanka, and I would, too, all the way from Sri Lanka.
		I'd spend lots of network money interviewing Arthur C. Clarke.
		I'd love to.
		Maybe I will.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
		Hi.
		I had a couple questions.
		First of all, I'm in Sacramento, California.
		I was wondering why I can't see the comet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Probably because of the city lights.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		When have you been looking?
unidentified		Oh, right about now, which is about 2 or actually it's about 3 a.m. now, and I look about 5 o'clock, and I don't see it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I can only suggest too much light in the city.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Can you get in a car and drive east until you get out of the city lights?
unidentified		East?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
		Well, if you drive west, you're going to mostly be in the ocean pretty soon.
		So I would drive east, right?
unidentified		How far east?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, until the city lights fade away.
unidentified		Oh.
unidentified		I hadn't thought of that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's a good idea.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		My second question was, how would I go about getting your show by satellite?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you have a C-band satellite?
unidentified		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, then the question is meaningless.
unidentified		Well, I could get one though.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We're on satellite F1, Transponder 5, a 5.8 wideband audio.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		All right, thanks.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Take care.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Hi, Artville.
unidentified		How's it going?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's going.
unidentified		This is Stephen Duluth.
		Hi, Stephen.
		I was wondering if you had gotten my facts.
		I did it about an hour ago.
		What was it about?
		It was, I was asking if you were familiar with Stephen King's book, The Stand.
		Oh, of course.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I read The Stand several times.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I love that book.
unidentified		I was wondering about the, like, the comparisons between Randall Flag, you know, the bad guy.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And Walking Dude.
unidentified		Yeah, and the guy that was going to be coming out of the West.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Black Hair.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I can only assume you asked that question because you heard me come back at Morning Sky with the Walking Dude answer.
unidentified		I think so, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So sure.
		The Antichrist?
		Maybe.
		Sure.
		Yeah.
		I mean, look, what Morning Sky described sounded to me kind of like the walking dude.
		So I was being a little flippant, but not really.
		It fits.
unidentified		And I was also asking if the man from the West would come off like a prophet, maybe like in the Omen movies, you know, like Damien.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		That kind of sounded like it would fit.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sort of.
		I can't disagree.
		Pretty strange stuff, huh?
unidentified		Absolutely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we are in strange times.
		Very strange times.
		And for many, many, many, many months, I have quietly, secretly been working on a book called The Quickening.
		I am told, not for you necessarily, but I'm going to get my first copies of the book on the 4th, on April 4th.
		Shortly thereafter, maybe even that day, I'm not sure.
		I've got to talk to my publisher.
		You're going to be able to get copies of it.
		But between now and then, please do not call my publisher.
		Do not call my network.
		Do not fax me.
		I will let you know on the radio when it becomes available.
		And I think you will find it a very, very good read, well documented.
		And in it, I lay out very specifically what the quickening is.
		It is chilling.
		It is true.
		It is controversial.
		It's hard-hitting.
		And I think it's going to blow a lot of people away.
		And maybe it's going to begin to open some eyes.
		I don't know.
		But that's why I wrote it.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Hello there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I guess we missed you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hey, Art.
unidentified		This is J.J. Amostin.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		How are you doing?
		I was hoping I would have been able to get through with Robert on the air.
		I was wanting to ask him, I guess now I'll just ask you, what do you think of Carlos Castanada and the writings that he are you from what point of view?
		Well, for one thing, as I understand it, the guy that introduced me to these books has recently told me that Carlos Castanada has fallen in with some really dark forces.
		And no longer can anything that he says be taken seriously.
		But as I read these first three books, I kind of took them to...
		Could be.
		I also wanted to ask you, I asked you last week when I called in if you would travel time, and you responded yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		I suspected that would be the case.
		Where would you go?
		And would you go somewhere to hang out and live?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'll tell you.
		I'll give you my answer.
		I first would go back to the 1950s.
		I think the 50s.
		Maybe the 40s.
		Maybe the immediate post-war years as an experimental little jump.
		My second jump, once I was assured that I could go back and come back, my second jump would be going back to the time of Christ.
		I've thought about that very carefully, and I cannot think of any more life-altering event than going back to the time of Christ.
		So if time travel was possible, that's my answer.
		Jump one would be a little jump, comparatively.
		Jump two would be the big one.
		And I can't think of any event more worth documenting personally than that.
		Can you change your life?
		First time call our line.
		You're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
		Hello, R. Hello.
		Yeah, you were wondering about how the, in Finland, when they levitated the spider and everything?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		As a matter of fact, we've got a link on showing that on our website.
		Frogs, various plants, and all the rest of it, levitated by large magnetic fields.
		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Yeah, well, I was looking at an old chemistry book, and it says that a sodium chloride or salt is diamagnetic.
		Any magnetic field makes it repel, no matter which pole it is.
		But it's real weak.
		You need a strong magnetic field.
		And animals and spiders and plants, they all have the salt in them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm sure, but I mean, the content is so infinitesimal that it's honestly hard for me to imagine that it could be.
		But I guess, you know, anything could be.
		But try this out for size.
		The scientists said, we don't know why we would do it, but we could do it with a human being.
		In other words, they could levitate you.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		But in blood plasma, I'm sure there's a rather large content of sodium fire in people.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I just, I think it's really strange.
		The levitation of biological organisms or nuts or flowers, have they all got that much salt in them?
		Diamagnetic material?
		I don't know.
unidentified		When the moon is in the temple found, and to the third line with more, then Jesus lies the planet, and now the future.
		This is the dawning of the age of Aquarius, the age of Aquarius.
		Aquarius.
		Aquarius.
		Let me go.
		Let me go.
		Art Bell is taking calls on the wildcard line at 702-727-1295.
		That's 702-727-1295.
		First-time callers can reach Art Bell at 702-727-1222.
		702-727-1222.
		Now, here again, Art Bell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, every now and then, somebody in one of these chat rooms comes up with a gem.
		I've got to explain this so that it'll come out right, but the way it works is they have these chat rooms on American Line.
		The one we're using is called the Grassy Knoll chat room.
		And when they get enough people in there, or when the room reaches its maximum, which I think is 46 people in this case, something like that, it automatically clones itself.
		In other words, it creates a second chat room.
unidentified		The room clones itself.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Somebody a few minutes ago said something that I thought was a Riot.
		They said when the room clones, you know, they ought to call it Dolly.
		Dolly, the clone chat room.
		I think it's great.
		AOL ought to take it under consideration.
		Dolly one, Dolly two, Dolly three.
		You know, does it not affect you as it does me?
		Now I realize not all of you can catch all of the programs.
		But as we interview various people, Ed Dames, Robert, I'm not even going to go through them all, Morning Sky, Father Malachi Martin, by the way, he'll be on this week.
		Ooh, I ought to tell you what's coming up, shouldn't I?
		Coming up March 28th, or in other words, this Friday, is Sarah McLendon.
		She is the Duchess of the White House News Corps.
		Call her the Dean of the White House News Corps, I think.
		But Duchess would be more appropriate.
		I'll ask her about that.
		Sarah McGlendon.
		Coming up tonight is Lynn Buchanan.
		Now, he was very much involved in Project Stargate, and he is a remote viewer that we have never talked to.
		So I thought you'd be interested in hearing from him.
		I certainly am.
		And then April 10th, Elizabeth Claire Prophet.
		And between now and then, who knows what, whatever it is that we set up.
		And I'm going to fit in several nights of just open lines so that you can talk about anything you want, as we are doing now.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hey, Cameron, starting in California.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There she is.
unidentified		There I am.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		You know, I was thinking about time travel because that person asked.
		And I was thinking, where would I go?
		And, you know, for a woman to travel back in time is kind of a step down.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it would depend on the country.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There are a few places where it would have been okay.
unidentified		Well, I mean, like, where?
		Don't ask hard questions.
		Hey, I noticed that you were having a little difficulty visualizing the creative force as a female.
		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, no, actually, I really don't.
unidentified		Not the impression you gave during the interview.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're wrong.
unidentified		Well, then correct me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I just did.
unidentified		You're wrong.
		Expand on it.
		I want to.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I think that the creative force, as you consider it, would contain, in fact I led him in that direction, compassion, nurturing, a lot of things that people would attribute to a feminine characteristic.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I have no problem with that at all.
unidentified		Good.
		That's all I wanted to say with good.
		I think a lot of people do have trouble, though, viewing God in different, you know, other than a patriarchal, stern, policeman-type manner.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think it just has to do with the images that we have created.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		God is an old guy with a white beard.
unidentified		Well, I think we've created some very unhealthy images that have damaged us.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Perhaps so.
unidentified		Well, I think that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And it may be that for that reason, society has treated women like dog poop.
unidentified		That's right.
		That's why I don't want to travel back in time.
		I kind of want to go to the house.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What makes you think it's going to be better in the future?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, suppose you were to go 50 years into the future and women couldn't vote anymore.
unidentified		I know.
		I don't know.
		I think not.
		I think that I would fight for my right to vote.
		But, you know, think about that.
		Only in 1920 we got the right to vote.
		I think about that all the time.
		I said, that's not very long ago.
		You know, men need to wake up.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, one might make a case, though, that ever since women have had the right to vote, things have been more or less going to hell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, how would you defend that?
unidentified		I'd try to blame it on the men somehow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'm sure you would.
		Thank you, dear.
		That's our 10.
unidentified		Oh, boy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		Yes, Ark.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Bring it to this front.
unidentified		Carmichael, I'm tired.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You sound tired, Francis.
unidentified		I wanted to know your book that's coming out.
		Yes.
		Is it going to be on tape?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Eventually.
		In other words, I'll tell you.
		Well, eventually means exactly what it says.
		I don't have a date to give you.
		Eventually, it will be...
		I'm giving you a hard time.
		You know, it came out first as a hardcover book, and eventually we got it out on audio tape.
		So that's your answer.
unidentified		Okay, thanks a lot.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're welcome.
		For quite a while, it's going to be out as a hardcover only.
		Then we will see.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello, Mr. Bill.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		My name is Ronnie from Florison.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Florison?
unidentified		Florison, Missouri.
		Okay.
		Okay.
		I think I could confirm what Sean David Morden was saying about the alien being pink and pinkish gray colored.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
		You're not the only one.
		Since he was on the air and since that photograph has been on my website, I have had a cascade of people saying, you know, including Linda Howe.
		She'll mention it next week.
		We talked privately.
		Linda Howe said, you know, I once had an alien described to me that was like a gray, except it had kind of pinkish skin.
		She said, I was afraid to say anything about it publicly.
		And we'll get her to talk about it this Sunday.
		But a lot of people have apparently seen something like that, but haven't talked about it because the conventional wisdom, if there is such a thing, is that they're grays.
unidentified		Right.
		Well, I mean, I was at work and me and some friends of mine were just looking through a magazine.
		And the guy comes and says, hey, look at this.
		And we were like, what the hell is it?
		And then we, I mean, it looked like a creature, but it looked humanoid type.
		But it's crazy.
		And we were just freaked out by it that they were putting in basically a magazine.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, thank you very much.
		He raises a very good point.
		If you want to see a photograph, a world exclusive photograph, nobody else has it, of an alien that was being interrogated.
		It's from a videotape and it's a snappy, you know, a still photograph taken from that videotape.
		So the quality is not what we would have it be, but it's not bad.
		It's on the website right now.
		Go take a look.
		It's worth seeing, believe me.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
unidentified		I like your show.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		You seem very familiar with science fiction writing, so I kind of had something I was thinking about.
unidentified		Are you familiar with Niven and Pornell's collaborations?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
unidentified		Okay, in football, one of the things they did was they used a bunch of science fiction writers to assemble a threat team as to what the aliens would do if they weren't benevolent.
unidentified		Have you ever thought of having that kind of show?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I should have Mr. Pornell back on again.
		As a matter of fact, he wants to come back on, so I'm going to try and fit him in.
		How's that?
unidentified		Oh, that sounds excellent.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		All right.
unidentified		Thank you, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You bet.
unidentified		Bye.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		First time call online, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
		Going once, going twice.
		Gone like the wind.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hi.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		How you doing?
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		All right, remember a couple hours back you had some guy from New Jersey call up about the comet?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Well, he said it broke off into like a little piece.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He said he saw a piece break off.
unidentified		Right.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Well, I got news for you.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		At my vantage point, I'm about 200 miles west of where he is in New Jersey, in the middle of New York State.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		And Hailbot was twice the size of Jupiter.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, yes, sir.
unidentified		Wait a minute.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		That's just from the eyes.
		When I looked in the scope, there was this little, tiny little line.
		Well, not little.
		It was five times the length of Hellbot, right down about maybe not even a tenth of an inch down from Hellbot.
		It was just a long line, real thin, but it was about five times as long as the Hellbot comet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The pod.
unidentified		Huh?
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		I don't know what that thing was.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't either.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I will go take a look at Hellbop after.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		Now, wait a minute.
unidentified		This was at 4 o'clock, right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I understand.
unidentified		Now, at 5.15, I went to go make a sandwich.
robert morningsky ▲ ● ▼		When I came back at 5.30, it was gone.
		And I've never seen that before.
		I've looked at Hellbop for the last two months, and I've never seen that there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, then I missed it.
unidentified		Well, I guess so.
unidentified		But I wonder what that thing was.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, let's see if we can get some other reports, all right?
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Because a lot of people are watching Hellbop right now.
		So if anybody can confirm what that man said or the other man, come ahead.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air high.
unidentified		Hello?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello, Arnabelle?
unidentified		Yes.
		Well, Mr. Bell, glad to be on the show.
		I was listening to your show Sunday night.
		I believe it was a replay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, it wasn't.
unidentified		Oh, it wasn't.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, wait a minute.
		Dreamland was not a replay.
		Then we did a replay of Al Belik and Sean Morton.
unidentified		That was the one.
		Okay.
		Yes.
		And I was talking it over with a bunch of friends, and I believe that was the show.
		He was talking about past civilizations on Earth.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Said the one, yeah.
		And the destruction that came.
		We got to thinking about him, you know, a couple of friends, and the question kind of came up.
		You know, we weren't really quite sure.
		The Bible didn't quite say that we could figure out how advanced things had been at the time right before the flood.
		And we were wondering, you know, if that possibly, you know, you'd think Noah might have had to be pretty advanced to build a boat like that?
		Am I considering?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm trying to understand you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why would it have to be so advanced to build a wooden ark?
unidentified		Well, it's not so much the wooden ark, but the size.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that just takes a lot of work.
unidentified		Yeah, the whole undertaking, you know, that he would have had to gone through.
		It's just kind of an idea to think about.
		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I appreciate it.
		Thank you.
		I think an ark could have been built.
		They had craftsmen capable of that even then.
		I guess.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
		Hi.
		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Turn your radio off, please.
unidentified		This is Whitney from Smith River.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Smith River, what?
unidentified		California.
		Okay.
		We like the show a lot down here.
		Thank you.
		I just wanted to make a comment about Mel's Hole.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Mel's Hole?
unidentified		I'm curious.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What station do you listen to?
unidentified		Art Bell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, that's the program.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What station do you listen to?
unidentified		It's something like K-A-B-C?
		K-O-H.
		K-O-G.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		K-K-O-H?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's Reno.
unidentified		Yeah, it's Reno, right.
		Okay.
		See, you could do it.
		But.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, what about Mel's Hole?
unidentified		You know what?
unidentified		I think they should send some McDonald's hamburgers down there and some of that Kentucky fried chicken.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, they did.
unidentified		They did.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They sent a whole cow down.
unidentified		Oh, well, I'm glad because I think that whatever it is down there is probably getting tired of getting stoves and refrigerators down there all the time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's got a cow.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, so I assume that it constructed what burgers or whatever it wanted.
		maybe like tossing virgins into volcanoes.
		Anyway, East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
		Hi, Art.
		Mike in Blair, Nebraska.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello, Mike.
unidentified		Couple things real quick here.
unidentified		First of all, have you seen the incredible programming going on on the Learning Channel this week?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No.
unidentified		Oh, they're having Alien Invasion Week.
		Cool.
		And they've been talking about Area 51.
		They've had Stanton Friedman.
		Oh, just a whole bunch of people that are talked about on your show all the time.
		Good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've had Stanton on many times.
unidentified		Yes, and their approach to it has been very serious and quite interesting.
		And the other thing was, I have an answer to a question you've brought up and some of your guests have brought up several times.
		And that's about the speed of light.
		And if you were moving in a vehicle moving near the speed of light and turned on the headlights, what would happen?
		Well, according to Einstein and his theory of relativity, relative to you being in the vehicle, light moves away from you at the same speed it would anywhere else.
		So you would see the light moving away at the speed of light, even though you're moving at the speed of light.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But Einstein's theory also suggests that when you attain the speed of light, you become finite.
unidentified		Well, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you'd only see the light going a little ways, and then it would be infinite, and you wouldn't see it.
unidentified		Well, let's say you were at 99.99% of the speed of light.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That is what we're saying.
		So you turn on your headlights, they wouldn't go very far.
		Well, before they became finite and invisible.
unidentified		Yeah, but to you, it would appear to move just like light.
		It would still move at that speed away from you.
		That's one of the interesting properties of light, though.
		And that's from my college physics books.
		And as a matter of fact, they use that exact example.
		So anyway, check out the Learning Channel all week.
		It's been great stuff.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'll give it a shot.
		Thank you very much for the call.
		Yeah, I guess it would depend on how close you were to the speed of light.
		I mean, if you were very close, then your headlight would only shine for a very short amount of distance, and the moment it exceeded the speed of light, it would become infinite, and you would lose track of it.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, this is Brother Bob.
		Art.
		Very good show tonight.
		Thank you.
		Yeah, I'm glad I got through finally.
		Sorry I don't get to hear you anymore on the weekends at our station here in San Bernardino.
		They cut you out.
		Well.
		No more even the other show.
		Dreamland.
		No, dreamland, nothing.
		But I wanted to know if I would like to talk to Robert Morning Sky about the correlation between Hale-Bopp and our lunar eclipse last night, which was very...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		When the eclipse occurred, the sky darkened and Hailbop was all the more visible.
unidentified		Right, but it was beautiful.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, and if you'll just wait a couple of weeks, as Hailbop approaches the closest point to the Sun, it is definitely possible that Hailbop will begin to brighten.
		Even though it's a little further away from Earth, it is closer to the source of that which is causing the outgassing, the Sun's energy.
		It may brighten.
		Wild Hard Line, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Oh, good morning, Mr. Bell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning.
unidentified		Just wanted to tell you a little story about yesterday and the eclipse and the hailbop.
		Yes.
		I went out to view to see them both simultaneously.
		I'm here in San Diego.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		And everything went according to plan, except that I didn't see hailbop because of the clouds.
		And today I had a dream that was exactly like the events that occurred last night when I went to check it out originally, except for one thing.
		And in the course of doing it, I had a daydream.
		And in the daydream, it was suggested to me that something was going to strike the moon.
		And there it is.
		Disturbing, but we'll see.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that would be very disturbing.
		And maybe like a corner shot in a game of eight ball.
		The moon, of course, what a horrible thought.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		I guess this is Hart Bell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, this is Howard Sturt.
unidentified		No, Hart Bell.
		Gotta be.
		Yeah.
		I was calling in regards to I heard last summer, I read in the Life magazine about this underground volcano.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Underground?
		All volcanoes, until they erupt here, are underground.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Good morning, Ars.
unidentified		This is Ed in San Diego.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you're going to get the honors, Ed, because we're about done with this program.
unidentified		I understand that.
		Of course, this is an honor.
		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wait a minute.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Include your radio station from KFND San Diego.
unidentified		Talk radio with personality.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Man, that's how to do it.
unidentified		Yeah.
		Around the world.
		Good night, America.
		Good night, Canada.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And good night, Cosmos.

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