Dr. Fred Bell, NASA engineer and physicist, claims time travel is possible via a 1982 Laguna Beach device using million-volt electrostatics and laser fields to "pinch through" time, citing experiments with altered perception and local environmental effects like flooding. He ties it to the Philadelphia Experiment’s alleged space-time warping, linking it to Pleiadian tech, element 552000, and suppressed Atlantean artifacts in Egypt’s pyramids—dating back 78,000 years per carbon-14 evidence. Bell’s work also explores anti-gravity propulsion using plutonium reactors and gravity-wave-emitting element 115, reverse-engineered from crashed ships. Skeptical yet intrigued, Art Bell debates credibility with callers, including claims of millisecond future glimpses and Norman Levinson’s math aligning with Tesla’s energy, while truckers defend his show’s global appeal over music-focused networks. Ultimately, the episode blurs science, conspiracy, and fringe theory, leaving time’s nature—and Bell’s assertions—open to interpretation. [Automatically generated summary]
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I have had a long, long abiding interest in two things this audience would know.
One is time travel, the possibility of time travel.
And the other, of course, is a related incident, the Philadelphia experiments.
And I've got somebody tonight who can speak on these items.
His name is Dr. Fred Bell, and I'll tell you more about him shortly.
I would like to note that in the window described by Jim Birkland, the geologist last night, as you know, we are still in it, and I just heard an announcement of a major 7.0 earthquake near the Philippines.
So I thought I would call that to your attention.
All right, now, who is Dr. Fred Bell?
We're about to find out.
He is a former NASA engineer and physicist who is internationally known as an expert on preventative medicine, nutrition, and as a lecturer on extraterrestrial science.
That is interesting.
But what I would like to talk to him about tonight is, and we'll touch on the pyramids because I know he knows something about that.
As a matter of fact, his company is Paradigm Inc.
And he knows something about time travel and something about that great experiment that was said to have taken place in Philadelphia during the Second World War to render a ship invisible.
You know, if you were to walk into a room and look at it, you know, and there's a chair sitting there, you recognize the chair or any object in the chair.
And it's a traditional recognition.
It's a thought process.
You probably think, oh, it's a wooden chair.
Maybe this was built in England or someplace.
It was an antique chair 100 years ago.
And chairs have probably been around for 5,000 years.
You get this whole process going about identity.
That is basically the energy of your consciousness going through a recognition process.
And so all of the people on the earth are in agreement that they're on the earth.
They look up in the sky.
They see the sky.
They see the stars and things.
So they all understand this becomes a mutual thought form everywhere.
And there's different levels of consciousness.
There's seven different levels of consciousness.
But right now's discussion, we're talking about the physical plane.
And when you start to realize the physical plane, you realize that the time that we're experiencing is right at this moment.
There's no guarantee that you'll even take your next breath or even the world will be here.
So what happens is the whole illusion of this form that we're into, this matter in space, you know, is taking place in a period of what we call time.
So we can reference ourselves to it.
If you were to imagine time as something in space, you can imagine it as like a comet.
And we are in the nose of the comet, in the front part of the comet, and behind us is the path.
So the energy of the path is trailing behind us.
So the easiest thing for time travelers to do would be go into the path.
There is no future on the physical plane to time.
There's absolutely none at all.
But if you start to realize the next level of consciousness where humans go after they're running around on the physical plane at the end of the day, they go to sleep and they go into a dream world, which is called the astral plane.
On the astral plane, we dream about probability, we dream about things that could happen, things that have happened, and there's a whole battery or consciousness of energy there occupying a different time.
So if we were to go into the future, we would only be experiencing a series of probabilities that could happen based on what's going on in the present.
Dr. Fred Bell is my guest, and I want to be very sure that I hear this.
Let me remind you of some of the things on the website that you can go and see right now.
We have a new cat page, and there are some of the most remarkable photographs of cats in there.
Be sure you see the 50-foot cat.
You're not going to miss that one.
You're definitely not going to want to miss it.
We've got more stupid stories on the Darwin page.
That is, some human being that contributes mightily to the gene pool by doing away with themselves in some unique and usually rather comical way.
There is an aura imaged with Curlian photography that I am fascinated with, as you will be on the graphics page.
There is a photograph from Kansas alleging to be the Virgin Mary crying tears of blood.
It's a good quality photograph, you decide.
NASA's X-Series spacecrafts on our space page.
And we have what we believe to be an artist's conception or image of the Aurora, if it is not one of these.
So there's all kinds of meteor impact images on the space page, the HARP signal as it came through, the Las Vegas Sun article, and so much more at www.artbell.com.
I'll just give you a brief description of the body.
The body has seven different glands inside of it called endocrine glands.
And each one of these endocrine glands has hormones in it.
And these hormones represent a level of consciousness.
So each level of consciousness is represented in the seven endocrine glands because there are seven levels of consciousness and seven sets of hormones.
When these hormones go into the bloodstream, they go up to the brain.
When they go up to the brain, they switch synapses called receptors and effectors.
The receptor is a synapse that's normally open, and when the hormone crosses the blood-brain barrier, it closes it, causing an electrical current to flow.
And when there's another synapse that's normally closed, when the hormone arrives there, it opens it, and that's called the effector.
So this closing on and closing off of signals creates an electrical flow because the brain has solutions in it that are like electrolyte, which is a whole other story.
I have to tell you the story about that sometime in radiation in the Japanese and World War II we went through at the University of Michigan experimenting.
But anyway, so what happens is these receptors start turning on and turning off electrical currents that go down through the spinal cord.
When they go down through the spinal cord, they go down through the different axons.
These are wires in the body that are sodium, potassium, phosphorus pumps, and it creates electrical flow.
You have 72,000 major wires going from the base of the spine down through the spinal cord.
This flow, this flow of energy, creates a magnetic field around the body.
Anytime you have a wire with electricity moving through it, you'll have magnetism at right angles.
And on Kirillian photography, depending on the body is made up of oxygen, hydrogen, nitrogen, and carbon, three gases and a solid, but depending on the frequency of the hydrogen atom, because the hydrogen atom is both key, will show up what frequency of the color is that comes out on the human aura.
So it starts out on a magnetic level and shifts up into light frequencies.
For example, in order for the human eye to perceive light, the electrical impulses inside the body have to run at the same frequency as the outer world in order to perceive the same sound.
Then what happens is when you take an individual, if you had only one person in the world, only one individual living in the world, then that person would have no personality.
But as soon as you bring two individuals together, you have the interchange of the auras, the magnetic exchange between the two people, and now you have a personality.
No, because what are they going to reflect off of?
Nothing.
They would have nothing to characterize themselves.
That's why in extreme isolation, look at Howard Hughes, how strange he got by, you know, he had a personality, but I mean, when you start isolating yourself for a long period of time, your personality begins to fade.
You've got to have encounters, you know, to react to these encounters, you know, and then that creates what's called karma.
And this energy, this energy is an emotional exchange of energy, and that builds a field up around you and around the other individual.
Now, if you add a third person, okay, if you have three people, now you have a triune of energy, and now you've created a second aspect of karma, which is dharma, or you've created a race.
I mean, if you think about what's wrong with the Earth, you know, well, one of the things of the Earth right now, it's got literally billions of people on it, and these billions of people, their summating aura field, the summation aura frequency of all of them is in direct conflict with nature.
That's why we have all this violence and all this stuff.
Until we start addressing these racial situations, we're not going to be able to balance the energy properly on this planet.
Okay, so now if you had, let's say, four people or more, you have a peripheral field of these four individuals, and that peripheral field of the summation of their auras is called the astral plane.
If one of those persons, let's say you had four people, one of those persons disincarnated, so you only had three on the physical plane, that person's soul would now go into the aura field of the other three, and whatever their belief system would be their heaven world.
They were big on respecting the human body because the Egyptians knew, you know, one of the reasons they did the embalming ceremony with some of the higher kings, a lot of the priests started doing it later, but they weren't basically in their society authorized, is to tell the world, you know, to preserve and respect the human body here on the physical plane.
If we didn't have any physical plane, we'd have a real problem incarnating here because everybody would be on the astral plane.
So we need to have the physical plane.
But the belief systems that are established on the physical plane become a reality in the hereafter.
Not forever, not for eternity, but for a time, for a time period, which is another time period, another series of times that's interrelated with the time here.
But if we were looking at it, it would be a much longer time period than we have here.
And that becomes the astral plane.
And then, of course, the next point is a plane beyond that.
If you were to go into physics, you would go into atomic particles, you know, atoms.
You go into subatomic particles, and you go into, like, sub-subatomic particles.
We could go from, you know, we'd be going from electrons and protons into hadrons into quarks into omega and on and on and on as a physicist.
This is just the particle standpoint of how the progression goes.
Okay?
So when we would deal with the astral plane, we would be dealing with the hereafter.
And the area of the human soul going through that lesson of incarnating and going to the astral plane and incarnating, in other words, the doctrine of reincarnation takes place until the soul realizes that journey isn't necessary any longer.
And the person goes into a transcendental, higher, more inner spot.
Now, if you were to, for example, get into a Pleiadian spaceship, and I'm sure your listeners are probably familiar with some of the Pleiadian photos that have been taken by Billy Meyer in the talk about Pleiadian ships, and you were to go into some ship that's capable of going as fast as speed of light and beyond,
basically what would happen as you accelerate up toward the speed of light and beyond, size and relative to this, your physical size relative to the physical plane becomes very small until you become atomic in size.
And so this is what happens, for example, at death when somebody, you know, the moment they die, the ounce of body changes, weight changes, because the consciousness has accelerated its energy and it's accelerating into the speed of light, and so therefore it takes an energy out of the body and it drops like an owl.
It is, and my guest is Dr. Fred Bell, and he'll be back in a moment.
We've got on the website now a very interesting photograph.
It is an artist's conception, and a very good one, I think it's an artist's conception, of the Aurora aircraft.
Now, if you look at the X series of aircraft, recently declassified photographs that we've got up there, and compare it to what the artist believes, I think that's an artist's photograph, the Aurora looks like, you will see remarkable similarities as if one came from the other, which I firmly believe it did.
Well, I did some experimenting with it, and my original idea or train of thought came from physics, which is a system called the Wilson Cloud Chamber, which is the way particle physicists look at particles to see if they are, you know, we're looking for new particles with very short half-lives, which is like a time experiment.
And so I was able to do some experimentation wherein you could accelerate the frequency of the human body, the electrons and protons in the human body, and actually begin to move forward in time.
This is how I learned, other than, you know, having been told by Eastern masters that I studied with when I was younger, but this is how I learned there wasn't any future by trying to go just like a few milliseconds or microseconds out of this illusion that we're in now.
And I was successful in doing that on a couple of occasions.
Until the whole human, the bulk of humanity creates it.
And the same thing I found out, and I didn't go in the past, but I also found out about the past.
If you were to go back, let's say, and if you were to get in a time machine and go back in the past and try to get rid of Hitler, as an example, would that change today?
No, it wouldn't, because only a small amount of energy has gone back into reflection of what time, you know, like the reflection or the echo of time and made a change back there.
It would cause some changes in the present, but very few and not enough that anybody would notice because the mass consciousness of energy is right here, here and now.
So I built it in the backyard, and it was pretty large.
It was about 20 feet tall.
And because it had to have a large acceleration tube in the center of it, we had to get a lot of energy going in the center of it.
And what I did is I used a trick that I learned in laser research, because I do an awful lot of work at the present with lasers.
And lasers are, in effect, demonstrating interdimensional time travel in their operation, the way they create a photon from the astral energies to the physical plane, bringing coherent light down here.
Because the astral energies would be a coherent light source.
Like, for example, if you were to hold a prism in the sunlight, you're going to get seven colors from it.
So what we have to do is put a mass, a Tremendous mass into those seven colors.
And then that mass then has to influence anything that's around it.
In this case, the being that would be transmuted would be alongside the what we call a cancel column.
And what we did is we accelerate energy to a very high degree or rate of speed back and forth.
First of all, let me give you a visual journey real quick.
First of all, we have an octahedral shape, like a pyramid, a right side-up pyramid, and we have an upside-down pyramid.
And these are about 12 feet at the base.
Inside this pyramid structure, and this is made out of a non-conductive material, inside this large pyramid structure is like a large tunnel going from the point of the top to the point of the bottom.
And this large tunnel is about two feet in diameter.
Around the outside of this pyramid structure, we have what would be equivalent of a Wimhurst machine, a Wimhurst machine or an electrostatic generator.
So we would be able to have one disc spinning around the outside in one direction, creating a positive charge, and another disc around the outside spinning in the other direction, creating a negative charge.
And they had the old Wimhurst machine, which was like two records.
One record would go one way and one record would go the other, and a capacitive plate hooked to either side so that it would cause a friction between the two records?
Well, yeah, just drawing, I'm kind of like drawing this.
Just imagine that we're looking at this pyramid on the top, and on each side of the pyramid are seven capacitors that are shaped like the pyramid itself, but each one is a little bit smaller.
Doctor, what you're describing sounds an awful lot like what Bob Lazar and others, or very close to what Bob Lazar and others have described as propulsion systems for things they worked at on at Area 51.
I used to work in those different government facilities.
I was a consultant, so I've seen, I've been around the block in that area.
But basically what I'm trying to create here now with these capacitors is a Mobius effect.
I'm going to get a charge.
These two rings are going to be spinning in opposite directions, creating a million volts.
And I'm going to be applying that million volts, you know, not at random, but would appear to be at random by what's called a proximity switch, which then switches these high voltages to these different capacitors.
So you can imagine a capacitor on the top fires, and one on the bottom goes, and then one on the side goes, and all around at different levels, creating a field.
I'm going to mock up a field.
And the reason I'm creating that field is I'm entering the human biosystem, the meridians.
You've heard of the Qi meridians and all the different energy fields in the body.
I'm getting the attention of that field to such a degree that the human field itself, the aura field itself, is now being drawn and controlled by this outside force.
Now that's step one.
And basically you could call it shaking the tree or getting the electrons and the protons of the person inside this vehicle kind of loosened up.
And then inside the net, there's two things inside the middle.
Now, first of all, we have this long tube going down through the middle.
This long tube going down through the middle has a coil around it, which is called a caduceus coil.
Meaning that this coil, anytime you put positive and negative charges into it, because each winding crosses the other like a little X, instead of creating a huge magnetic field, it creates a void.
It takes a magnetic field and it collapses.
It's exactly the same way that Bermuda Triangle works under certain astrological conditions, which of course is where the whole Navy Philadelphia experiment started.
But this is a much more sophisticated version of it.
And this is somewhat what was on the Eldridge, USS Eldridge, was very similar to this column that I'm uh describing now, which we call a cancel column.
And so what we end up doing is we start the capacitive work, the outside Wimhurst machine starts creating a huge field.
We use what's called proximity switches to create a Mobius electrostatic bifield Brown effect around the entire vehicle, which isolates it from the physical plane.
And then we put a huge amount of laser energy.
We start moving photons off of the astral plane onto the physical plane.
And at the precise moment, we collapse the entire field, put all the energy into this column.
It was so simple because in one of these capacitors, in one of these, the doors that go into this thing had all these capacitors on it.
I had a hole through it, so I had a porthole in it.
You could see out.
And the first time we turned this thing on and collapsed the field, it was real interesting.
The device went into a state where you could see out.
I suppose I didn't have anybody standing outside because we did it at night, but you could see out, and there was a car going up the street because we live on a hill.
The car wasn't moving.
The car had stopped.
It had two headlights.
And one of the headlights, the photon beam coming out of the headlight were a little bitty spot.
In other words, it wasn't a solid beam like you would see coming out of a car headlight because we were moving up in higher energy.
We were moving up towards the speed of light in energy now, not traveling physically, but in energy.
So the photon beam, we were matching its speed, so you could see speckled lines.
And the left side of the headlight, it was like a bunch of white spots hitting the street, and the right side of the headlight hadn't even hit the street yet.
And the second experiment, we got it going and really wound up more, and there was nothing outside the window.
And I could only do this for a short period of time because I was using batteries and I I needed about 400 or 500 horsepower to really do what I wanted, and I had to be disconnected from the electricity of the power lines and that because it wouldn't work that way.
So this was the experiment that we were able to do based on my research.
Well, we're in a kind of an elite area here, and we have very strict zoning requirements.
And I used to bring them different mayors up here and then show them what I was doing, and they knew me because I used to do numerous radio shows, and I'm a personality here in town.
Yeah, up to the house, and then therefore they go down and tell the city, it's okay, this is only temporary, this is a very interesting experiment going on.
But finally, after four generations, you know, four different mayors in town, I couldn't do my political thing anymore, and they made me tear it down.
And the electrostatic field, you should see what it does to trees and how things, the whole DNA structure of plants and trees, we had a tree in our backyard that was nearby that when we took the time machine out, this pine tree grew, it looked like a pretzel, the way it grew.
Those three months of solid rain was when we were doing all this.
And I remember when we stopped doing it, I was very disoriented.
I mean, it was very disorienting for me.
My intuition seemed to work backwards, and I could drive down the hill knowing that I've got to make a left-hand turn to go to the grocery store, and I would turn right every time and get about a block and realize what I'd done.
So it really caused me to face out and behave in a strange way for a while.
Well, now, as you know, in the Philadelphia experiment, it is legend or it is said that people were affected very much in the same way or even more so or even at the extreme, ended up in the middle of metal in a ship.
Well, for example, in this type of time machine, I plan to build another one one of these days.
The next one will actually fly because you would have to lift, if you were going to go back into the past, for example, you might end up inside of a mountain if you don't get some altitude above the surface of the earth.
And the Philadelphia experiment, they weren't really Knowing what they were doing.
Well, it sounds a lot like your experiment, even though fairly sophisticated, was still kind of a blunderbuss approach compared to perhaps what it ought to be.
Okay, I presume that it was an effort of the military.
I mean, obviously, we're at war, and German submarines are sinking our ships, and we were not real happy about that, so we wanted a way to virtually be invisible.
And what happened was, you see that down at the Bermuda Triangle, the Bermuda Triangle is a negative energy vortex that was set up by a previous race, probably in Atlantis, that created some pretty negative things, what we call negative scalar waves, that were very, very hostile to the planet's environment.
And so the capital of Poseidon, of Atlantis, was destroyed about where the Bermuda Triangle is about 12,000 years ago, leaving this vortex.
And what happened was, see, minesweepers are pretty much a wooden ship, because if they weren't, they'd set off the mine.
But a minesweeper, even with it, it's got metal on it, and when it sails around the South Pacific and different places where they go, it gets magnetized by the Earth's magnetic field, just like you would if you were to take a nail and put a magnet to it and rub it up and down.
Okay, well, what happened was when they were coming in from different areas in the South Pacific, they go through the Bermuda Triangle and the Atlantic, and they noticed, see the weather conditions on the Atlantic down there.
A lot of times there's fog, there's all kinds of different mists, and the ships try to keep a certain distance from one another.
And they noticed that when they went through the Bermuda Triangle, some of these minesweepers that were apart from each other became invisible on the radar.
And usually during the Bermuda Triangle area, in that area, they become invisible on the radar.
So you go down in line, and you get a whole series of readings, but the things were highly instrumental, so they were reading practically every square inch of it.
So then what they did is they decided, well, you know, we got this field here, this field here, this field here.
Why don't we put coils?
Why don't we now go ahead and put coils on the board and make these coils behave in the same way as these readings we were getting during the unitrines.
No, because I worked on it at the University of Michigan afterward when we began to explore the coils.
We forget the ship.
Where we were at was forget the ship.
Let's start putting these coils.
And so we had a, in the Randolph Laboratory, which is an underground lab that I worked in, we had a synchrotron, a Bevatron, and a cyclotron, three big atom spashing toys.
So what we did is we hooked up their power supply outputs, which would be BEV output, billion electron volt output.
And we took these billions of volts of output, and we hooked it into what are called general electric pyronol capacitors.
So we had huge amounts of current available with very, very high voltages.
I mean, you should have seen the arrangement.
We had literally capacitors going down hallways, all hooked in parallel and series.
Huge, you know, three big atomic smashers disengaged because all we wanted was their power supplies.
And so we were destroying these coils in these sealed rooms, basically vaporizing them into another dimension.
That's what we started doing in there.
It's the only thing I could figure out.
I didn't have the whole scope of the experiment in my eyes, but while I was involved with it, because I was working with that and another thing called the pinch effect, which was very similar, the pinch effect evolved from that, and that later on became cold fusion, what we call in science today as cold fusion.
So out of our research, a whole bunch of things, different kinds of experiments began to take place.
And then I, in my career, in my lifespan, I went and explored some of these other things.
So I got off into all these side technologies, which were equally as fascinating and all involving time.
So I mean, I just was into a lot of stuff.
The pitch effect, one of the experiments we did with that, for example, was send shock waves down a tube to duplicate the shockwave from an atomic explosion and how it destroyed buildings and matter and things like that.
That was one thing.
Another, of course, was cold fusion, where you sustain the temperature of the sun, surface of the sun, inside of a tube held in place by a very powerful magnetic field like we just described in the Philadelphia experiment.
And see, because when you start working with these fields, you start compressing energy down into it, it creates a in space, for example, if a sun starts to die, it's supernovas, it explodes, or it collapses.
If it collapses, it creates another, its own space, its own time, and it creates a black hole.
So what we were trying to do, the next step was create a black hole in a laboratory with what's called a space-time singularity.
That's how I learned about, you know, about how some people, like some people, for example, can handle ultraviolet from the sun and other people get cancer.
The final job that I had was spacecraft checkout engineer, meaning that just before we, when we finished building the ship over here at, you know, this was the different stages of the rocket at Seal Beach, California, we had to run a complete series of dynamic checks on it to make sure it was going to lift off and go to the moon.
My job was to make sure everything worked.
And then we shipped it down to Huntsville or we'd ship it down to, you know, we used to call it Cape Carnival in those days, but Cape Canaveral and launched the damn thing.
Now, and that job, I didn't think, I was very surprised when the first one took off.
I mean, the things I'd see go on at NASA was so ridiculous, you know.
I always called NASA a giant WPA project because we already had, the reason I call it that is because by this time I was already working with propulsion technologies that were far better than rockets, which I currently am working with today.
And some other friends of mine around the country are very, very into some of this stuff.
And so I got into all of that during the NASA time.
It's control of everything and you can do that through music.
We do a positive aspect of that and create healing powers out of it, you know.
Also, we were into a black box technology now, which once again, the music, you know, we started developing sounds from recordings of extraterrestrial Pleiadian ships where we got sound impressions.
We took them as spectrum analogers, broke down the sound frequencies, and came up with different timbre characters.
And timbers are, you know how if you play a piano and then you play a violin, they're both the middle note C, but they both sound different?
That's a timber characteristic.
And if you look at the sitar, which is an Indian instrument, it's a consciousness-raising instrument.
It came here to the Brahmins from the rishis, according to the historical volumes of Tibet.
The rishis supposedly came from the Pleiades, but the sitar, look at the 60s when everybody was doing mind expansion, they had Ravi Shankar playing the sitar, people getting high and listening to the sitar music because it raises consciousness.
Pretty soon they realized, hey, you don't need the drugs to get high.
The music is doing it.
So we got into that.
We started using synthesizers with different techniques.
One is called the linear synthesis.
One is called subtractive synthesis.
And we began to create these sound patterns with a computer and these rolling synthesizers and put those on transducers to create levitation and stuff like that.
So I got into a quicker way of doing some of the things that were more complicated in our earlier days.
So as a result of that, I've written several books.
I'm finishing up one now.
Created an educational tape series.
Created four music albums.
Right now we're getting ready to release one that's going to go out into the cultural, you know, mainstream rock and roll with using this stuff.
I've got a six-watt laser beam going over my head, going through the entire framework of my house as I give this interview because the energy of a laser going into crystals is phenomenal.
They wanted that, it was called Site 6, and it was a commercial venture to make money because they put the bridge and there wasn't any water in there then.
The family tree, they started it 100 and some years ago, and I got 100-year-old pieces of paper with a family tree started by my great-great-somethings or others.
And then my grandparents took over and did another 50 years of it.
However, some of what you have said makes sense to me.
Moreover, I have a soft spot in my heart, without a doubt, for people who have been doing the kinds of things that you have done, and you're out on the cutting edge.
I I've worked a number of years with a band called the Moody Blues, so but uh you never you never did any work with those as far as uh you know you were talking about musical instruments and uh the various places they can take you.
You just have to understand how a Swiss watch works, meaning that our Earth and Sun and solar system rotates around a central sun, Alcyon, in the Pleiades, every 27,827.5 years.
And during this time, we go through a couple of things.
One is we go through these things they call ages.
We're coming from the Piscean Age.
We're going into the Aquarian Age.
Now, what that means is these are 2,100-year windows where the cell could handle a certain amount of consciousness.
And that's why you see progression in our society, supposedly.
2,000 years ago, up until now, was the Piscean Age.
And the belief system, the Pisces were a believer kind of consciousness, but they started a lot of religions in the last 2,000 years.
And they built a lot of churches and all of that.
That was in the last 2,000 years.
Now we're coming into what's called the Aquarian Age, whereas we move around this Pleiades a little bit further, the vibratory frequency of a cell, the molecule in the cell, is raised higher, so a higher frequency soul is starting to incarnate.
Now what that means is when you, you know, I always ask people, I say, now let's talk about consciousness for a second.
Let's go back 300 years ago.
Where were all the people?
We didn't have 8 billion people on this planet 300 years ago.
Where were they?
Did they just suddenly, we just created 5 billion souls in the last 300 years?
Yeah, I didn't know him at the very early days, but I met him in the 70s, who I did a lot of lectures with the Whole Life Expo, and he'd always be there.
He also traveled with the Moody Blues, too, in the very beginning days.
And I thought, you know, I've vacillated back and forth, too, about the Philadelphia experiment.
However, I've had too many people describe the essence of what the Philadelphia experiment was, beginning with Al-Bilik and winding through people who describe different propulsion machines,
and then people who, like yourself, Dr. Bell, who talk about time shifting or time travel or whatever you want to call it, using almost identical technologies.
And so I've got this feeling there's something to it, and I personally would be inclined to experiment with it myself if I weren't doing what I'm doing, and I might be inclined to do it anyway.
But it's probably very dangerous.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Dr. Bell.
Hello.
unidentified
Thank you, Art.
Dr. Bell, nice to meet you.
Hi, how you doing?
My question I have is directly orientated towards the Great Pyramid on the Giza Plateau and what it stands for as a monument as a previous structure made by a previous civilization.
I've been working on some papers pertaining to a technological process that has to do with the alignment of the planets, which NASA has now studied and discovered.
It has been discovered now for 10 years.
That's on 552000.
With this discovery together combined with the pyramid and listening to how you constructed your time machine, would the physics involved in the construction of your time machine have implications from previous civilizations like Atlanteans and the possible arc of the cofinet?
Yeah, it definitely does because I was educated, I had a kind of a dual education.
I had education of my own school hard knocks through the University of Michigan and the Air Force and all the government things I did.
And then when I became a contactee, I got the Pleiadian side of it, and they began to educate me.
They basically started to put together what I sort of intuitively suspected.
And then in the process of doing that, they said during Atlantean times, which is a 25,000-year shift back from where we are now, civilization was much more advanced in technology now.
Civilizations rise and fall.
And the Great Pyramid, for example, the original pyramid is basically 78,000 years old.
And you can verify that by certain growths that go, there are certain kinds of growths that have been carbon-14 dated on the inside between the stones themselves.
And the other pyramids came much, much later in Ginza.
As a matter of fact, even on the Sphinx itself, there's evidence of water erosion, not wind erosion, which means it was there during the Great Flood 6,000 years ago.
And he, you know, we suspect that they found, the Egyptians found some Atlantean artifacts and have changed them with Egyptian artifacts because if Atlantean artifacts are found in Egyptian pyramids, that means that Egypt are just a bunch of babies.
The Egyptians are babysitters for a previous civilization.
That takes away their heritage.
So there's some real powerful political games going on covering up what the world's going to find out very soon anyway.
You know, American Indians did it with gymsonweed.
That's how they, you know, you could have, like, the Apaches, because they used to work with the Apaches, especially at Dulcie.
You know, they had half of the western United States covered.
And then what happened was the seer would go out after he went through this gimpsonweed thing, and don't try this at home because it'll kill you, but they'd go out by a cactus plant, basically, and they'd go out of body, and they'd fly around like an eagle and actually see other tribes coming in hundreds of miles away, and then they could dispatch warriors.
So the Indians had it down to a science, how it worked.
Okay, so that is where you're connecting into the astral energies, the emotional energies, and you're actually able to focus on the being that created the act by using some article that identifies them with the person that had the act gone to.
Some of these propulsions came about from what's called reverse technology or reverse engineering, whereby ships crashed.
There's one ship that flies.
An associate of mine was in it.
He works, he had a code name.
He works for the CIA.
And he was in it wearing a zero-G suit, meaning it was developed by the Navy SEALs where they go down like 5,000 feet underwater and they breathe a liquid in their lungs so their lungs don't collapse.
But they have one that you wear, and not only do you put it in your lungs, because when you get really sick, it's really weird because I've had friends that do it.
And then you have a suit so you don't get crushed because this one type of ship I'm going to describe puts out 33 Gs of lateral force.
And Gary Schultz took a picture one up there at Ponapa, you know, up there at Area 51.
And that craft is a two-man craft that uses a small plutonium reactor located in the base of the ship.
That's why it's got so much lead shielding around it.
And what this plutonium does is it produces a large amount of electrical current, which then goes directly into cells, capacitors like ceramic capacitors in the bottom of the ship.
And the word in physics is called the Seebeck effect.
And what they're creating is a non-polarized magnetic field that's very powerful in nature, which gives it an anti-gravity type effect.
The same kind of field as in a human body, by the way.
See, when a star collapses, you know, and just as it goes into a supernova, we talked about the first one, we warped the space and time, but the second, we actually supernova.
When we supernova, we now have a type of matter that, you know, the surface of the sun down to the size of a basketball before it blows up.
That matter has a very high gravity to it because obviously it could almost warp space and time.
I'm alternating between thinking that you're a sort of a strange kind of a genius and a kind of a Timothy Leary sort of dude, but a scientist and sort of out way out on the edge.
As a matter of fact, yesterday morning at about 4.30 or so, I went out.
And boy, I'll tell you, that thing had to be 40 degrees in the sky.
It was way up there, just burning away through cold space.
And it is the sight to be seen.
Hailbop is going to be visible and increasing in brightness, possibly through the middle, if not the end of April.
this is something in your lifetime that I'm telling you, I'm telling you go and see music music music music you Well, all right, we're about to go to open lines here.
The lead news story is five female soldiers from the U.S. Army's Aberdeen Proving Grounds now say investigators coerced them in seeking statements that the women had been raped by higher-ranking soldiers.
Oh my.
The women now say it was consensual sex.
Consensual sex.
In other words, translated, they said, okay, let's rock.
There was no rape.
There was no force.
There was no pressure under color of rank or authority.
A proposal to outlaw nude sunbathing on some Florida beaches was nipped in the bud by lawmakers who only have turned it down because they say it will hurt the state's tourism industry.
It was a measure that would have made it illegal to go on the buff at 10 federal parks across the state.
But it looks as though, oh, I see why they wouldn't pass that.
Especially hard hit, it says, would be the state's European market, whose travelers, as a group, are more accustomed to nude sunbathing than their U.S. counterparts.
Hey, no kidding.
I was in Europe last year and Scandinavia.
And I must tell you, the fashions there, for example, I know you're not going to believe this.
It doesn't matter.
People who were along with me on the trip know.
The fashion there was on the street now, mind you.
See-through dresses.
I swear to you it's true.
See-through dresses.
So the European ideas of morality and so forth are a little bit different than we hold here.
Compared to a lot of places, despite what you may recall about the so-called sexual revolution, Americans are actually rather prudish compared to our European cousins.
FBI has seized a Federal Aviation Administration radar tape that allegedly showed an object speeding toward TWA Flight 800 seconds before the plane exploded.
This is the Associated Press.
The tape is to be reviewed by a federal grand jury as soon as Wednesday.
The FBI is, and crash investigators are saying this is baloney, though a missile remains as one of the three principal areas of investigation with regard to what took down 800.
They say this is nothing more than the same internet stuff.
So, I don't know.
You tell me.
I've got a lot more here, but I think we're going to go to open lines now.
And I'm going to be thoughtful for a while on what Dr. Bell had to say.
On the one hand, you could dismiss it as astral gooblygop, you know, but on the other hand, a lot of what he had to say made some sense.
And I'm going to be a while thinking about what he said.
I seem to remember having seen a story on him back around 1983, to the best of my memory.
And I believe it was either in the Examiner or Weekly World News.
It was a full-page story.
As I remember it, it had a picture of him and a close associate of his, who's supposed to be a former head of some military division of the CIA-type work going on.
Yeah, I'm sitting here still not exactly sure what to make of him.
unidentified
He was working in some kind of workshop, and it showed a picture of an anti-gravity device that he had been given by the same people you mentioned, the Plydeans.
He seems, from what I have read, to be the second most important person around as far as officially elected representatives of the ET's Earth, the first being Billy Meyer over in Switzerland with his contact Samjesis, the woman who appears as a beautiful blonde.
And then this man, Fred Bell, who appears to be the one who gave us the anti-gravity devices thanks to the Pleadians.
I've seen an expert in genealogy recently say that there are only 250 families in the European ethnic groups here in America, if you trace them back directly.
We'll have the, well, as soon as we get our webpage hooked up, the Art Bell Chat Club webpage, we'll have the information on the meetings that will be starting down Sarasota Way.
But I kind of agree with you.
Dr. Bell was quite intriguing, and you kind of got filled up real quick, and you need time to digest.
You can almost hear his frontal lobe processing at the level of a partially controlled fusion reaction.
I'll bet his IQ is off scale.
This is the kind of genius that makes the breakthroughs.
And then he gives me good marks on the interview.
Thank you.
You know, that is correct.
I think that's right.
There are a lot of people you listen to, and they're right off on the edge, and sometimes it's a little difficult to tell, but Daryl is right.
You could hear the man's brain racing along, and sometimes so quickly that it was difficult to keep up with.
And so I kept trying to slow him down a little bit so that you could grasp what he was saying.
But I recognized an awful lot of what he was saying as in concert with the kind of technology that was described in the Philadelphia experiment, the kind of technology that was described by Bob Lazar, who is said to have engineered or back-engineered alien craft at an area near me called Dreamland.
So a very, very interesting interview.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
unidentified
Hey, good morning, Mark.
Good morning.
Listening to your show, very good interview with this gentleman.
Maybe, but you know, the people that are touched a bit are the ones, as Daryl said, who tend to make the breakthroughs because they refuse to recognize the impossible.
unidentified
That's right.
You know, when talking about time travel, I was reading a, I'm going to say it was a novel or a short story quite a few years back, and it's either by Heinlein or Asimov.
I get them both confused.
It's talking about the dead past.
And in this, I'll give the shortcut of the story.
This guy was trying to find an element that would go back to time, that would enable him to make a time machine.
And the government was trying to keep him from getting this element.
And the element, for whatever it was, would enable him to be able to go back into the past.
And the whole hint of the story about the dead past is, you know, he said, when is the dead past?
You know, a thousand years ago, a hundred years ago, yesterday?
How about one second ago?
And the reason why the government wanted to keep this element from him is because if you could view the dead past of one second ago, aren't you actually just looking at the present?
And in this machine, he was able to be able to go to anybody, you know, go anywhere and see anything he wanted to.
So therefore, you know, you let the Pandora out of his box by allowing him to be able to see anybody's recent past, if you will.
The only thing that's really occurring is now, as we create it.
We leave a trail behind like a comet, and that is a past, but it can't be lived in the way you can live in this one.
And there is no future until we create it.
Very interesting.
unidentified
That's kind of interesting too because when you talk about remote viewing and being able to see future events, as Major Ed Dames has talked about with the special delivery package, you know, how is he able to see something like that if the...
Okay, let me tell you what I was going to tell you before the break at the bottom of the hour.
It is tentative at this point.
But I got a fax earlier today.
Well, let me read it to you.
Okay.
Dear Mr. Bell, I am with the CBS news program 48 Hours, which airs Thursdays at 10 p.m.
Last week I read an interesting Associated Press report on you and your Coast to Coast radio program.
I was very intrigued by it and thought your story might make an interesting piece for our nationally broadcast show.
I would greatly appreciate it if you would contact me so that we could chat a bit.
And then she tells me how to be reached.
How I can reach her.
I have a message machine on my phone, blah, blah, blah.
Look forward to hearing from you, Barbara Lippmann, producer, CBS News.
Now, 48 Hours has been trying to contact me, apparently, for some time.
In the effort to try to contact me, they called, I guess, most of the bells, you know, now I've got an unlisted phone number, so don't try to call the bells in the phone book here in Perrump.
But that's what 48 Hours did, along with a lot of my listeners.
And there is listed in the phone book an R. Bell.
And this producer at 48 Hours Thought, well, Ramona Bell.
And so she called R. Bell.
Turns out, of course, it is not my Ramona.
Now, please don't call R. Bell.
That is not my number.
And this poor lady, it turns out, has been awakened in the middle of the night several times every night, every night of the week, with people trying to get hold of her.
She got a call from a preacher last week.
It might have been Jay-Z.
And she's, this R. Bell in the phone book is a very nice lady, apparently quite religious.
And this guy called her about 2 or 3 in the morning and talked her ear off about me for two hours.
Two hours.
And of course, being polite, I mean, who's going to hang up on a preacher?
So this poor lady lost half her night's sleep talking to this preacher, raging on about me for two hours.
So finally, somehow 48 Hours got my phone number, my fax number, and faxed me, and we went from there.
Now, that would be an interesting experience.
My understanding of 48 Hours modus operandi is that they literally come and live with you for 48 hours?
But please, folks, do not call people in the phone book here in Perump, Nevada, because I have an unlisted number.
None of the bells who are listed in Perrump would be me.
None of the Bells would be my wife or anybody connected with me.
They are poor souls who simply share my name and take the blame if you follow me.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hi.
Yeah, Art.
I just wanted to tell you, make sure you get a USA Today today.
Comet Hellbop is the front page cover story.
Good.
USA Today.
Also, I heard on another local talk show here in Dallas, Texas, there was a woman last night who was talking about aspartame and NutraSweet, and she claimed that that's what's causing the Persian Gulf illness, that the diet sodas that the people sent over sat out in the sun, and it cooked the NutraSweet and turned it into a poison.
See, we're going on a brand new ship, the Dawn Princess.
Brand new.
Boy, are they fun.
Wait till you see this ship.
We begin in Vancouver, B.C., British Columbia, which is a beautiful city.
There we board this brand new ship and sail toward Alaska, through the famed Inside Passage to Kachikan.
Then Juneau, the capital of Alaska, which can only be accessed by water or air.
And then Skagway.
Then we sail right up to the face of the towering ice fields in Glacier Bay National Park.
Talk about photo ops.
And in Majestic College Fjord.
This is a trip, folks, that will be with you all your life.
There is not money better spent than on travel.
Then it doesn't stop there.
When we get to Seward, Alaska, we go into Anchorage, board the Princess Cruise's luxurious ultra-dome rail cars, and go to the famed Denali National Park, and then on by rail to Fairbanks, Alaska.
In other words, you're going to see what the tourists see, and then a lot more.
You're going to see the real Alaska.
This is, believe me, this is God's country.
Come with us, won't you please?
You've got to make your decision very quickly.
Today is the 12th.
On the 15th, the price is going to go up unless we can talk Princess Cruise Lines into keeping it down.
But there is at this moment no guarantee of that.
So, call, do it.
East of the Rockies, call 1-800-633-2732.
That's 1-800-633-2732.
Or west of the Rockies.
1-800-848-7120.
That's 1-800-848-7120.
Come on along.
We're going to have a blast.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air, hi.
unidentified
Hi, Art.
Hello.
This is JJ from Austin.
Yes, sir.
First of all, I've got a few things.
First of all, I was wondering if you had received my faxes yet on the report of my investigation on the Chupacabra story?
I did, of course, mention Madman Markham, not Stephen Gibbs.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
I'm familiar with your story on Madman Markham.
Yeah.
I think Stephen Gibbs' claim is much more fascinating than so far.
And so far, every time you've discussed this matter, the people that are dealing with this subject on the level that Dr. Bell is dealing with it on, they kind of point fingers in the direction that Stephen Gibbs' claim, how he claims the machine works with all of that.
Well, I also would like to solicit, thank you right now, anybody else who's got a good guest for me on the subject of time travel.
I'm definitely stuck on this.
I know it's a soft spot right here in the middle of my head.
Time travel, I am absolutely fascinated by it.
And I really do think it winds into Tesla technology, winds into the technology used during the so-called Philadelphia experiment, and the propulsion technology that so many people talk about.
And I know this is going to fly over a lot of heads out there, but I'm telling you somewhere there is somebody working on a time machine with today's technology, and I am bound and determined to find them.
So if you know of a person like that, fax me at area code 702-727-8499 or send me email at artbell at aol.com.
The way everybody keeps saying thank you and thank you and stuff, I'd like to thank the listeners and the people that support you, the ones that call in.
What I want to talk about is out-of-body experience.
About a year ago, you know, I heard and I've had those dreams since 79 in high school and stuff.
And I finally figured out what they are.
And, you know, I've lost a brother and a sister in my last dream that I had with them.
We were driving in this car and then it ended like I was driving, they were in the back seat, and it was like heading into a tunnel and straight onto a train or something like that.
And then I was upside down, falling, and they stayed up there, and then I woke up in my bed, and I found out what out-of-body experiences were.
That's a very involved question that would take a long time to answer, but basically...
It is basically the ability of a person using certain protocols to be able to view an object or an event in time, present, future, or past, and actually write or sketch details of what they see.
And it is a very specific protocol developed in the military and now used in civilian life.
And so in other words, it's a kind of a psych, let's see, a disciplined psychic is the way you might think of it.
He essentially said that God was a lonely entity, and that in that loneliness, he finally, in effect, blew himself up, creating all that is now, and the souls, and that we are, in essence, God-parts.
I was going to ask you about, I don't know if you've ever asked a remote viewer, I'm always interested in things that they haven't remote viewed, but I wonder if you've ever asked any of them if they've sort of tried to confirm the creation theory, like going back in time and anything to do that.
eventually we will be there i mean we were beginning to sort of And we have radio stations now calling us.
As a matter of fact, we're getting into kind of a weird thing now where we've got so many affiliates that we have some markets that are fighting about us.
Well, I can tell you about the truckers, and I will.
You know, I don't mind discussing this.
There are a number of truckers networks out there, and what the truckers do, first of all, let me tell you about my show.
We do not charge radio stations for this program.
It's what's called a barter basis, okay?
And that means they get to run their commercials and we run ours, and everybody's happy, and they don't have to pay us.
The majority of syndicated radio programs are marketed that way.
The truckers networks, because of the nature of their programming, which is not necessarily all that popular to the average person, is not of interest to these radio stations except for one thing.
They pay up to a million dollars a year.
So obviously, if a radio station gets offered a million dollars a year versus a barter show, there is no contest.
And if they don't care about their ratings, then they grab the million and run, and I really can't blame them.
unidentified
Well, the story on this one is that the JCOR flagship station here in Cincinnati carries it, and I think they would like to establish a network and would like to hook on to a couple of 50,000 waters.
And they've got, they have or it's pending the beginning of WHAM in Rochester.
Right.
And it might.
The rumor was that it was going to go on there.
And perhaps I'm telling things out of school that they don't want it let out yet.
Did you hear on the news about that guy in Europe, and he is a history teacher.
Well, actually, what happened was there was this cave in Europe, and they found these bones.
And so they had studied, or they wanted to do a study to see if anyone in the community, whose families had lived there for years and years and years and years, if anyone was related to this guy.
So they took some of the DNA out of his jawbone, and they studied the DNA of those people there that were in the community.
And they found one history professor that was a direct descendant.
And what I told that caller, there are a lot of truckers networks out there right now, so-called truckers networks.
And they somehow think they cater to truckers.
You know, they play some country and western music, and I guess they talk about traffic jams.
I don't know what the truckers networks do, frankly.
But for a long time, I've known that we have gazillions of truckers listening.
So I'm going to ask why I do this, I don't know, but I want to prove a point.
So for the next 30 minutes, I want everybody out there to hang up.
Stop calling.
On all lines, stop calling.
That means on the first time, call our line, the wildcard line, the international line, the east of the Rockies line, the west of the Rockies line, hang up.
Okay?
And I want to open all my lines for truckers, only for truckers.
I want to prove a point.
You should see I get hundreds, thousands of letters and email from truckers.
And there is no question about it.
And what I would like is the view of truckers.
In other words, do you guys sit out there and listen to the truckers network because you're a trucker?
Or do you listen to this program because of the subject material?
I really would like to know.
So, as usual, I will just ask, would everybody else please hang up?
Anyway, they've been asking me to do this for a long time.
So all my lines, and I'll give out the numbers, are open for the next 35 minutes only for truckers.
And I would like to get your comments.
Because what that caller said is true.
These truckers networks are going around and sucking up these big 50,000 watt nighttime stations so they can specifically program to truckers.
And though I haven't done a lot of listening, I believe that the primary content of the programming is, I guess, country music because they figure truckers like country, which is somewhat true, and whatever else they do.
So I'm going to close all my lines for everybody, every normal person out there, and I'm hereby opening my lines only to truckers, and I'm going to ask you guys what you listen to and what you know about out there.
And let the affiliates, the radio stations out there, sit and listen.
And maybe some of the programmers out there will realize as they hear this, which I know they're going to, that programming specifically designed for a trucker is not necessarily what a trucker listens to, you know?
I mean, they've got a radio dial, they tune across, they can listen to anything.
So, that's it.
For the next 35 minutes, if you're not a trucker, hang up and let the truckers get through.
Here are the numbers.
First time caller line, area code 702-727-1222.
The wildcard lines, area code 702-727-1295.
West of the Rockies, 1-800-618-8255.
East of the Rockies, 1-800-825-5033.
And what I'm going to do is I'm about to prove a point.
You know, some of the old fogies listen to that stuff, but, you know, I run down the road at night, and somebody hollers on the CB and says, did you hear what he just said?
And they're always talking about, you know, whoever you have on tonight.
All right, the only point I was trying to prove is that truckers are not stereotyped, and because you present something called a trucker's network doesn't automatically mean truckers are going to go and listen to it.
unidentified
Oh, it's ridiculous.
You know, most of these people that put these networks together are ex-truckers probably themselves.
And, you know, they're from a different age.
Most of your truck stops are owned by ex-truckers who are in their 60s and 70s, and this is what they did.
Well, do you get a sense from CB or at truck stops of what people listen to?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
We were just talking about you tonight at the terminal, about all the things you had on the air, and it's real interesting.
I'll tell you, we really feel sorry for the people from Desert Storm.
We really hope that something gets done there and that the President of the United States here recognizes that these guys were given their lives and their families didn't bargain for this and that hopefully this thing gets straightened out and we get these guys on the right track.
Listen, what is your attitude about these so-called truckers networks?
unidentified
Well, I think there is a lot of people who listen to you.
A lot of truckers, you know, they really look for something that piques their interest and you do a heck of a job.
I'm not a conservative, but I'll tell you something, I really respect you because you're pretty darn fair and that's what I'm looking for.
You know, I'm just looking for somebody who piques my interest and someone who's fair because just bashing somebody from the other side is no good, you know.
And what I'm trying to prove here is that truckers are not a class unto themselves in the sense that they can be programmed to and they will automatically go to the truckers network, whatever it is.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Yes, I call them from Jubis Truck Stop in Portland.
When I've done a lot of cross-country driving and talk radio has kept me company, so I know.
It's just that, you know, these truckers networks are trying to sell the broadcasting industry on the fact that because they put a trucker's network on, that's what the truckers are going to listen to.
Obviously, you're listening to this program now, but what is your attitude about the Truckers Network, so-called?
unidentified
I've been out here for two years, and I've only listened to it once.
I don't really care for it at all.
I don't like the music or anything.
Only complaints that I have about your show is when I'm going down the road, I usually have to go through two or three stations to keep listening to your show.
Well, that's one of the reasons I'm doing this, because some of the big stations are getting drawn into this truckers network thing, thinking that that's what truckers listen to.
unidentified
Yeah, I was really disappointed when Detroit's big one left you for that.
And I'll tell you, I'd rather listen to you than any of the truckers' networks because, well, I mean, like the other drivers did, it keeps your mind active.
But there's a bunch of us get together on a pretty good coverage repeater in the middle of the night, oh, about a half a dozen of us, sometimes more or less.
And we listen to you, and during the breaks, we talk to each other on two meters about what's going on.
Well, what I'm trying to do is to talk to the broadcasters, in a sense, and let them hear from you guys, because I know we've got more truckers listening than these so-called Truckers Networks.
unidentified
Yeah, they're kind of stale.
You know, I'm Charlie Douglas' road gang and stuff like that.
I've been on the road off and on for about 20 years or so.
Of course, I don't fit the stereotype anyway.
I don't wear Tony Llama boots and don't have a chain-dry wallet.
I'm a rock and roller, too.
But the truckers network, I guess, are okay if you want to hear a weather forecast in southwest Missouri when you're in eastern Tennessee.
But I really enjoy your show.
And like I said, there's a bunch of us out here.
You're the topic of conversation during the break.
I just wanted to say, too, that the trucker networks are always so boring that, you know, road conditions and trucker stuff, you know, like motors and transmissions.
Who cares?
You know, I just want to drive my truck to listen to you.
But of course, temporarily, you know, they get very attracted by the money, and they think that that's what the truckers are listening to, because they call it a trucker's network.
They think that's what truckers are listening to.
Well, I could have taken a million more, but I thought I'd give you 30 minutes of an example of what the truckers are listening to.
So, guys and gals, thank you.
And if you listen to a station, take a minute, call them up, and let them know what you really listen to.
unidentified
Thank you.
Thank you.
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I've been hearing about this for years, you know, truckers networks.
Like, you start a trucker's network and automatically the truckers come, sort of like in Fuel to Dreams.
Build it and they will come.
Well, it's not that way.
You know, truckers are no different than anybody else, and they like interesting talk radio the same as anybody else does.
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And I notice that Keith has just put up there, right under my photograph, we are the Truckers Network.
Thank you, Keith.
Now look, if you don't have a computer, and I know a lot of you don't, we've got a newsletter.
And we publish all of these photographs in our newsletter because we know you all don't have a computer.
So the newsletter is called Art Bell After Dark.
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It has articles on guests that we interview that go into detail that you don't hear on the air.
Just heard all the truckers reported, and I used to drive truck, too, and when I was driving truck, if you would have been on the air, I would have had you tuned in.
I'm Charlie.
I'm calling from Medford, Oregon, and I listen to you on 100,000 watt KOPE 103.5 out of Medford here.
Yeah, but there's something about this I think you might want to hear.
Now, given that Mother Shipton was writing somewhere around about 1490, 1495, and there's always some question as to whether her prophecies were entirely complete at a later point in time.
There's something very interesting, though.
And giving her the benefit of the doubt that she's out by a few years at this point, listen to this.
But those who live this century through, in fear and trembling this will do, flee to the mountains and the dens, fog and forest and wild fens.
For storms will rage and oceans roar when Gabriel stands on sea and shore.
And as he blows his wondrous horn, old worlds shall die and new be born.
The world then to an end shall come in the year 1991.
But it's interesting, this idea of old worlds shall die and new be born.
The copy of Mother Shipton I've got carries through and it predicts things like the Civil War, Disraeli becoming prime minister in Britain, the French Revolution, and on and on and on and on.
Well, I was simply trying to prove a point that these truckers networks that are popping up here and there across the country are not necessarily an automatic listen for truckers.
unidentified
I agree.
You know, there is one old truckers network, I guess you would say, that I was born in that city, so every now and then I catch to see what the weather is like or whatever, if I'm on that side of the whatever.
But if I'm going down the road and everything and I want to listen to something besides the squat box, I turn that fucker off and listen to you.
If it's daytime, you know, I listen to some doctor shows or whatever, but I'm not really into music that much.
Look, music is all right, and you know me, I love music, but it's only good for a while, and it kind of wears on you after a while.
And what will really pass the hours is talk radio.
So, you know, after you've musicked out, and that doesn't take very long, then you're ready for something a little more stimulating that keeps your mind going instead of just going thump, thump, thump.
About an hour from now, about an hour from now, in fact, really right now, but about an hour from now, she'll really be high, very high in the sky, about 40 degrees, it seems like to me.
And it's just blazing across cold space.
And it's a sight you've got to see.
It is, I keep telling people, it is worth losing sleep over.
I heard all kinds of things that rang bells there and with regard to the technology used during the so-called Philadelphia experiment and all the rest of it.
It all went click, click, click, click.
And so he was an interesting guy.
unidentified
Yes, indeed.
And, you know, somebody who has a lot more stuff yet to tell you, if you could get him back on, it would be Mark McCandlish.
Well, I've had Mark on, I think, about three times already.
So we'll have him on again.
Thank you very much, Dan.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
unidentified
They are Bill in Minnesota.
Say, just wanted to remind you and that guy that called last half hour that you're going to have that tough time getting Alan Hynek on because he's been dead about five years.
I feel that there's going to be one within the next month with all the rain that we had in California and the way the animals have been acting recently.
We registered it here and also for the past four days.
Give you a little news info from this side of the planet.
There's been a class two, what you would call a hurricane.
We call it a cyclone down here, setting off about 700 miles east of the top end area, which is Queensland in Northern Territory.
It's been causing a lot of heavy swells, doing a lot of erosion, and hasn't decided whether it's going to pick up speed and move away or come on in, but they've been experiencing a lot of rain and stuff like that.
This summer in the southern third of the bottom third of The country, which would be from your friend Stan's area around Perth, straight across over towards Sydney, which would include Adelaide and Melbourne.
We've had really hot, hot, hot spells of, of course, we're in Celsius, so I'll change this for you, but there have been days when there's been four or five days that reached 39, 40, 41, 42, which is 39 Celsius is just a little over 100 Fahrenheit.
So it's just been extremely hot ongoing here throughout the summer.
And, you know, there's been really freaky things weather-wise going on down here as well.
When I was doing some work for a company up in Hawaii, I picked you up off of the Honolulu station.
Got totally addicted.
And since then, I've just been plugging in every day, actually, to listen to you.
Or if I have to miss it, I pull it down off the Internet archives.
I only wish, and this is for the wonderful people at AudioNet, please put the Art Bell Show on a 28-8 stream feed instead of a 14-4 because sometimes it gets a little echoey, uckoey, uckoey down here.
I really appreciate what we've got because, you know, it's about the only way that you get any really different types of news and stuff that's really going on around the world because there's only a couple of folks that own the big news medias down here, newspapers, radios, televisions, and stuff like that.
Hi, I just wondered if you ever realized that, or has anybody ever realized that all the predictions all these people make, the scientists and everything, the poll shifting, all that, it's being generated through the media and it's building in everybody's head.
And reality is being created right before everybody's eyes, and it's the blind truth that nobody knows.
And it's kind of like they think if they put it up and they play country music and they say, we are a truckers network, automatically it's going to bring the truckers.
And I don't think it works that way.
unidentified
No, not necessarily.
I want to ask you one question about somebody that you may have talked to on ham radio without giving his call sign.
Okay.
His name is Doug.
He travels the country picking up wrecked airplanes.
And Norman Levinson wrote a book, well, a couple of books.
He was a mathematician from MIT.
I also found out that a lot of...
what Tesla was doing it still isn't understood all this stuff about a radiant type of energy that really isn't anything like Hurricane waves no I know and and a lot of what Dr. Bell said earlier rang right down that alley yeah it was I missed it I was sleeping unfortunately the question I have for you right now is have you heard anything from Madman
Well anyway, I'm really intrigued by whether or not that stuff is true and I wish More people could what I think, sir, is that if it's not all true, and it probably isn't, that something did occur.
And when he got far enough into the future, there was nothing but blackness.
unidentified
But you don't remember the guest you had on in January, Steve Gibbs?
Yes.
You remember he said you could specify putting in a date and I remember, yes, of course.
Have you had a lot of scientists throughout the United States calling you up saying they had bought one of those machines and done a thorough test and physicist?
We are all awaiting the first delivery of the machines and people's reaction.
unidentified
Well, I know it's been since January, and I thought maybe a physicist at one of the colleges had took a thorough analysis and done a lot of diagnostic tests to see if this thing is really up to what he claims it is.
And I got a suggestion.
How about Mr. Bell and Steve Gibbs being on the show together and comparing notes?
I just want to compliment you on that rerun show, John Sayjack.
He was right on with a lot of stuff.
but i think a really interesting show would be on in fact because in fact will be here when we uh...
all by and they'll be here a long after the world is come to an end they tell us when Just thinking about that is a good reason to step on a couple today.