Art Bell - 19960829_Art-Bell-SIT-Open-Lines-Remote-Viewing-Mars-Bridge-of-the-21st-Century
Aired: 1996-08-29
Duration: 02:43:21


=== Vintage Clinton Speech (14:21) ===

[00:00:23]  Welcome to Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
[00:00:27]  Tonight, featuring Coast to Coast A.M. from August 29th, 1996.
[00:00:31]  From the high desert and the great American Southwest, I bid you all good evening, good morning, and welcome to the best in live overnight talk radio.
[00:00:41]  From the high desert to the Hawaiian-Sahitian island chains in the west, eastward to the threatened Caribbean in the U.S. Virgin Islands, south into South America, north to the Pole and worldwide on the internet.
[00:01:00]  This is Coast to Coast AM, and I'm Art Beller.
[00:01:04]  It's good to be here.
[00:01:06]  Well, he has been crowned.
[00:01:12]  President Clinton gave his speech tonight.
[00:01:15]  We'll talk a little bit about that.
[00:01:18]  The president accepted renomination for the White House Thursday night.
[00:01:22]  He did that right away.
[00:01:23]  Said, I don't know how to do this, really, so I just will say I accept.
[00:01:27]  Urged Americans to let him lead them into the 21st century with an agenda that disdains the, quote, old politics of Washington.
[00:01:37]  End quote.
[00:01:38]  In an address to delegates at the Democratic National Convention in Chicago and millions watching on TV, Clinton promised to balance the budget, but portrayed himself as a bulwark against excessive Republican efforts to shrink government.
[00:01:54]  Also blasted Republican presidential candidate Bob Dole's plan for a $548 billion across-the-board tax cut.
[00:02:02]  Proposed a plan instead that would spare most home sellers from capital gains taxes.
[00:02:09]  Now, all of this may have been somewhat overshadowed by the Morris quit.
[00:02:19]  As you know, the president's top political strategist, Dick Morris, has resigned.
[00:02:25]  In a written statement, Morris neither confirms nor denies an allegation that he engaged in a year-long, this ought to be in quotes, love affair with a prostitute.
[00:02:39]  The allegation made in an article in a supermarket tabloid newspaper, The Star, Morris says, quote, I will not subject my wife, family, nor friends to the sadistic vitriol of yellow journalism.
[00:02:55]  I will not dignify such journalism with a reply or an answer.
[00:03:00]  I never will, end quote, but he did resign.
[00:03:04]  Bill Clinton basically only saying in a statement that Dick Morris is my friend and a superb political strategist.
[00:03:14]  So there you are.
[00:03:15]  The delegates were all surprised by the scandal, a little afraid of it, not knowing what it would do to the Prez's big speech tonight.
[00:03:25]  Now, the theme of the speech, and I watched it in its entirety, was building a bridge to the 21st century.
[00:03:35]  Our president said, quote, where our children are not killing other children anymore, where children's lives are not shattered by violence at home or in the schoolyard, where a generation of young people are not left to raise themselves on the streets, end quote.
[00:03:56]  Where crime is a shocking exception and not business as usual.
[00:04:03]  So the president's theme clearly was a bridge to the 21st century.
[00:04:08]  The president clearly had decided to, in effect, respond to Bob Dole, who said he remembered a better day and was, didn't say it, but was in effect a bridge to the past.
[00:04:23]  Or the way America was, Mr. Clinton is going to portray himself as a bridge to the future.
[00:04:31]  Now, building this bridge will be any number of programs, 23 of them specifically proposed.
[00:04:41]  Not so much new money to be used, he says, but rather a manipulation of the tax code as an instrument of social policy.
[00:04:53]  In other words, he will use the tax code to provide monies for these various proposals.
[00:05:03]  He said, crime is down and drug use is up.
[00:05:07]  Crime is down and drug use is up.
[00:05:09]  That's interesting.
[00:05:10]  How can that be?
[00:05:12]  If drug use is absolutely connected to crime and the only way to get crime down is to legalize drugs, then how can we have crime down and drug use up?
[00:05:29]  I don't get it.
[00:05:31]  Does that make sense to you?
[00:05:34]  Bridging to the 21st century with family values.
[00:05:41]  Talked a lot about family values, and a lot of that talk, as you well know, came from the mind of Roger Morris.
[00:05:53]  And the president stopped, looked lovingly at his wife, and said, of course, it takes a village.
[00:05:59]  And apparently the village working girl as well.
[00:06:05]  So obviously it's going to be a night to allow you to render your opinion with respect to what the president had to say.
[00:06:14]  It was no doubt a well-delivered speech.
[00:06:18]  Mr. Clinton does that.
[00:06:19]  He gives good speech.
[00:06:22]  Always has.
[00:06:22]  It is what he does well, and you can't take it away from him.
[00:06:26]  He gives a good speech.
[00:06:30]  The crowd liked it, and if you were casually listening around the edges, it sounded good.
[00:06:36]  That's what he does well.
[00:06:38]  I mean, I just, I can't and won't take that away from him.
[00:06:41]  He is a superb politician.
[00:06:43]  I don't know how much of a compliment that is, but he is that.
[00:06:49]  Now, I've got some responses ahead of time from some of you.
[00:06:54]  And here they are.
[00:06:57]  Art, while all the media and the general public were asking how can we afford the proposed Dole tax cut of 15%, I've not heard anyone in the media challenge the President and the Democrats on how they can pay for the billions of dollars in new government programs that Clinton promised.
[00:07:15]  I thought the era of big government was over.
[00:07:18]  I guess it is the beginning of the era of the big village.
[00:07:22]  That's from Hank in Kansas City.
[00:07:25]  Mike in L.A. says, Art watching Clinton tonight reminded me of one of those people that call your house frequently, offering free vacations, cars, and sometimes cash.
[00:07:40]  Chris in Farmington, Missouri, Art.
[00:07:42]  The phrase that comes to mind with Clinton's speech is vintage Clinton.
[00:07:48]  Race baiting, dividing, playing to both sides for political gain.
[00:07:52]  One thing that really sticks out is he mentioned the swastikas painted on the doors of black special forces members.
[00:08:00]  I'm not shocked he mentioned that, and I'm not completely shocked he failed to mention the fact they were painted by a black man.
[00:08:08]  Clinton also showed his true colors.
[00:08:11]  He really showed himself as a liberal Democrat wanting more and more government intrusion into our lives.
[00:08:20]  Dave in Vesalia, California says, I quote Clinton, I believe in free speech.
[00:08:26]  Say what?
[00:08:28]  Get those responsible for painting those swastikas, give me the V-chip, get me more wiretaps, and arrest that woman for calling me a hypocrite.
[00:08:38]  That's Dave and Visalia.
[00:08:40]  For this high art tonight, with a high degree of curiosity, I listened to the hour-plus-long speech given by our seated and newly nominated Democrat president.
[00:08:52]  Aside from my feelings of consternation regarding his socialist verbiage, I heard him make numerous proposals that followed the Republican agenda.
[00:09:04]  Found his remarks regarding the removal of crime, safety to walk the streets, work fair, and the like inspiring.
[00:09:13]  The speech seemed to be a speech that would be made by someone who was looking forward to a first term.
[00:09:20]  Man's been in office for a period of four years, two with a Democrat and two with a Republican Congress.
[00:09:26]  Since his non-socialist proposals are endorsed by both political parties, why have his proposals not been submitted to Congress during the last four years?
[00:09:38]  As an added comment, at the start of his speech, he called for a moratorium on personal attacks and would do everything in his power to prevent them.
[00:09:48]  I listened to the Democrat convention in its entirety and was put off by the personal attacks that were voiced.
[00:09:54]  Where was his control when they were going on?
[00:09:58]  I feel this country needs something more than words.
[00:10:02]  With someone who's a leader, we would have had some action instead of just words.
[00:10:13]  And so forth and so on.
[00:10:15]  And I'll give you just a little more here.
[00:10:17]  It is worth commenting on.
[00:10:21]  One last, dear arts, and notes on tonight's performance.
[00:10:25]  Did anybody notice that Clinton was having a hard time suppressing a smile when he began talking about how terrible drugs are?
[00:10:34]  Go back and look at your videotape.
[00:10:36]  You'll see him having a hard time initially suppressing it.
[00:10:41]  Two, I've always thought that Bill Clinton was performing a huge service to the American people by presenting them with such a clear example of sociopathic behavior.
[00:10:52]  Unfortunately, a large portion of the population wants desperately to be lied to.
[00:10:58]  As long as it sounds like they're getting something for nothing, I fear three generations of TV viewing has made separating fantasy from reality difficult for many.
[00:11:11]  Tonight he repeated a plethora of button-pushing irrelevances and lies, and sadly enough, many are going to eat it up.
[00:11:19]  His long-winded, pointless recounting of ethnic and racial struggles around the world was met with applause just because Bill said that's not a nice way for folks to act.
[00:11:30]  Yes, Bill, I guess it is true.
[00:11:32]  As Bosnian Muslims could not defend themselves, we'll tell you.
[00:11:39]  The media response afterward on the major networks was as bad as one could expect.
[00:11:45]  Ranging from praise as the greatest campaigner of modern times to analysis as hard-hitting as he showed himself to be at the sensible middle.
[00:11:57]  Peter Jennings was effusive, and after commenting that Bob Dole would be sorry that he ever made reference to being a link to a better past because the president was going to beat him up by describing himself as a link or bridge, if you will, to the future, rudely cut off by David Brinkley when he began to explain that the Democrats had twisted Dole's statement and that Dole was referring to a gentler America with less crime, social problems, better education, etc.
[00:12:27]  Peter cut David off in mid-sentence because he had more important things to do, like thanking his cameraman.
[00:12:35]  It could not have been more blatant, and the look of displeasure on Jennings' face was plainly obvious.
[00:12:43]  Among Jennings and ABC's White House correspondents' comments were those about how, with the type of scandal that broke today, many others would have been shaken, but ah, not Clinton.
[00:12:53]  Of course not.
[00:12:55]  One of the traits of a sociopath is incredible confidence in the sense that nothing can hurt them.
[00:13:03]  They consider being detected a great challenge and derive their thrills from the game.
[00:13:09]  The closer to danger they get, the greater the high.
[00:13:13]  Finally, I've got a comment on the biggest lie in Al Gore's speech yesterday.
[00:13:18]  No, not the deception about his sister's death, a ploy that sickened me.
[00:13:22]  No, it was the one about Gingrich and Dole not knowing the measure of this man.
[00:13:29]  Of course they did.
[00:13:31]  It was in Paula Jones' deposition.
[00:13:38]  So that kind of summarizes the president's speech, whatever else you want to say about it.
[00:13:44]  It was a good speech.
[00:13:46]  It was well delivered.
[00:13:49]  And it no doubt is going to get him points, presidential rating points.
[00:13:56]  And we'll see what kind of bounce he manages to get out of all this.
[00:14:19]  Norwegian authorities say a Russian airliner carrying coal miners to the remote Arctic islands slammed into a snow-capped mountain as it came into land, 141 dead.

=== Storms Lined Up (02:48) ===

[00:14:35]  Reminds me, I recently flew on a Russian airliner.
[00:14:41]  The Atlantic is an amazing sight to see.
[00:14:46]  Lined up from the coast, literally, the coast of Africa, all the way to a few hundred miles now from the American coast.
[00:14:57]  Hurricane, hurricane, storm, storm, storm.
[00:15:02]  Literally lined up from Africa to near America, one increasing in strength, storm after another.
[00:15:14]  It is an amazing sight.
[00:15:16]  They said it was not going to be a season like we had last year with storms literally lined up from the African coast to America, but here we've got it once again, surprising the people who try to predict the weather ahead of time.
[00:15:34]  Something on dinosaurs.
[00:15:37]  The scientific debate over whether dinosaurs were warm-blooded like mammals, birds, or cold-blooded like reptiles is simmering again.
[00:15:47]  Several scientists claim that they've found the first fossilized evidence that at least some dinosaurs were cold-blooded.
[00:15:56]  They say CAT scans of, quote, superbly preserved specimens, end quote, of dinosaurs from the Cretaceous period showed they had nasal anatomy similar to that of such cold-blooded modern animals as crocodiles and other lizards.
[00:16:15]  The scanned specimens included a Tryanosaurus rex and many others.
[00:16:23]  Several experts say the research does not close the debate over whether the extinct creatures were cold-blooded or warm-blooded.
[00:16:35]  So there you've got it.
[00:16:38]  I have got what I think is probably the facts that Ray Bream read the other day on TWA Flight 800.
[00:16:49]  Oh, by the way, while we're on the subject of 800 and the photograph up on the webpage, purporting to be the alleged missile that brought it down, or the one that might have brought it down, there is trouble on the web, and there are some large servers and such that went down, and depending on the routing that your service takes, you may or may not be able to get certain websites, including mine.

=== Buckle In For The Unexpected (05:14) ===

[00:17:22]  So this great tangled web or net, if you will, is suffering a sort of a brownout right now.
[00:17:29]  Some of you will make it without problem.
[00:17:32]  Others will have a problem.
[00:17:36]  If you have not yet seen that photograph, you need to see it.
[00:17:39]  It is on my website along with so much more.
[00:17:42]  And by the way, as I said yesterday, Latin Show, there is a new photograph of me up there taken about three weeks ago.
[00:17:51]  So if you want to see what I look like, a good recent photograph is up there, taken by my friend Bob Crane.
[00:18:01]  I was on the back of the ship on vacation.
[00:18:04]  He snapped a photograph of me, and so I put that one up there for you to see a recent photograph.
[00:18:10]  And that's the first thing to load up as you load the webpage.
[00:18:13]  That is, if you can weave your way through the apparent brownout going on right now, web-wide.
[00:18:25]  So tonight is going to be open lines.
[00:18:27]  Tomorrow night, Dr. Hertag is going to be here.
[00:18:30]  And I think you're going to enjoy that very much.
[00:18:33]  And obviously, with the political developments of the day, here in the village, I thought open lines would be most appropriate tonight, followed by Dr. Hertog tomorrow night.
[00:18:50]  And then the holiday weekend begins.
[00:18:54]  Well, all right.
[00:18:55]  Tonight will be completely open lines.
[00:18:58]  You are not tied to talking about any one thing at all.
[00:19:03]  Anything you would like to talk about is fair game.
[00:19:06]  Just because I mentioned something in the opening does not tie you to having to comment on it.
[00:19:13]  And if you want to take the program in a completely different direction, that is your prerogative.
[00:19:21]  In fact, I enjoy that.
[00:19:22]  I enjoy the unexpected aspect of talk radio.
[00:19:26]  And Even though I spend a great deal of time every night preparing to do a show on whatever I think is the top of the news, if that is not the direction you decide to go as an audience, that's fine.
[00:19:42]  And I will just take that research I have done and file it away for future reference.
[00:19:48]  So, first time callers at Area Code 702-727-1222.
[00:19:56]  Wildcard line, folks, at area code 702-727-1295.
[00:20:04]  West of the Rockies, 1-800-618-8255.
[00:20:10]  And if you're east of the great Rocky Mound, your number is 1-800-825-5033.
[00:20:22]  So buckle in and get ready for the unexpected.
[00:20:25]  This is Premier Networks.
[00:20:27]  That was Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM on this Somewhere in Time.
[00:21:09]  Somewhere in Time.
[00:21:11]  Tonight beat Coast to Coast AM from August 29th, 1996.
[00:21:16]  Vallejo, and again, the president said, Crime is down and drug use is up.
[00:21:22]  Now, how can that be?
[00:21:24]  How can that be?
[00:21:26]  I mean, if crime is tied to drug use, if drug use is up, crime ought to be up, right?
[00:21:35]  Or if crime is down, then drug use ought to be down, but it's not, it's up.
[00:21:39]  In other words, what's up is down, and what's down is up.
[00:21:44]  Should be down, it's up.
[00:21:47]  Then the other thing is this bridge to the 21st century, which clearly was the president's theme for his whole speech.
[00:21:54]  And I thought that worth asking you about.
[00:21:58]  He wants to extend the Brady Bill.
[00:22:00]  Oh, yeah.
[00:22:01]  Domestic violence, offenders, no more guns.
[00:22:05]  You don't get your Second Amendment rights anymore.
[00:22:08]  Cop killer bullets, which really haven't been invented yet.
[00:22:11]  I don't know what they are.
[00:22:14]  But what do you see across the bridge in the 21st century?
[00:22:18]  Socially, economically, politically, environmentally?

=== Exciting Times Ahead? (15:40) ===

[00:22:22]  Whatever category you want to choose to pick a category.
[00:22:26]  What do you see in the 21st century?
[00:22:30]  Are things going to improve socially?
[00:22:33]  Young people will stop killing each other, as the president said.
[00:22:37]  Economically, more people will get higher-paying jobs, and women will be able to go back to the home again, take care of the kids.
[00:22:46]  Politically, our politicians will stop lying to us, pandering to us.
[00:22:53]  Think that'll happen in the 21st century?
[00:22:55]  Environmentally, do you think our rivers and air will be cleaner?
[00:23:00]  The ozone thicker, the frogs more prolific.
[00:23:06]  What do you see across the bridge to the 21st century?
[00:23:11]  West of the Rockies, you're upon the air.
[00:23:13]  Hello.
[00:23:14]  Good evening, Art.
[00:23:15]  How are you?
[00:23:15]  I am fine.
[00:23:16]  Great.
[00:23:17]  I'm wondering if you had ever heard of a movie called Eyes of Mars.
[00:23:23]  Eyes of Laura Mars.
[00:23:25]  No, this is exactly the cartoon called Eyes of Mars.
[00:23:28]  The Eyes of Mars?
[00:23:28]  Yeah, it was on sci-fi tonight.
[00:23:31]  No, it's about this, you're going to die.
[00:23:34]  It's about people living on Mars 30,000 years ago deciding to come to Earth and how they lived underground on Mars.
[00:23:42]  Yes.
[00:23:43]  Cities and stuff, and escape from Mars.
[00:23:44]  And originally they were on another planet.
[00:23:47]  Were they big, tall, gargantuan people?
[00:23:50]  They weren't like Human people.
[00:23:52]  They weren't big women?
[00:23:53]  No.
[00:23:55]  This was like Hoagland and Dings and Brown and everybody all put together.
[00:24:00]  Everything I've been hearing about.
[00:24:01]  Yeah, but most of what Hollywood did on that subject was generally big women, sometimes in leather with whips.
[00:24:08]  No, this was about three years ago, and it was surprisingly reminiscent.
[00:24:14]  It was like deja vu of what I've been hearing on your show for the last like three months.
[00:24:18]  Was everybody talking about the underground civilization on Mars and how they were refugees.
[00:24:24]  Grace put the refugees on Mars and they had to bring them here and put them under the mountain and send them into Mexico and everything.
[00:24:33]  It was really, really deja vu.
[00:24:36]  Well, it must have been somebody who did a little remote viewing back then or something, huh?
[00:24:41]  East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
[00:24:42]  Hi.
[00:24:44]  Hello there.
[00:24:45]  This is Ray in Kansas City.
[00:24:46]  Hello, Ray.
[00:24:48]  Hi.
[00:24:48]  I was just reading today something about the Gulf War illness.
[00:24:52]  Yes.
[00:24:53]  I understand there may be some kind of big cover-up concerning that.
[00:24:56]  Do you know anything about it?
[00:24:58]  Yes.
[00:24:59]  If you watch, did you see 60 minutes last Sunday?
[00:25:03]  No, sir, I didn't.
[00:25:04]  Well, that's what they covered.
[00:25:06]  The explosion of a plant, for example, in Iraq during the war, which exposed many of our soldiers to chemical weapons.
[00:25:17]  All the alarms went off.
[00:25:18]  Pentagon said, ah, they're all false alarms.
[00:25:21]  But they weren't.
[00:25:22]  And the Pentagon now admits it, and they say, of course, why it really has not come to our attention to investigate this until now.
[00:25:30]  That's a bunch of bull.
[00:25:33]  Exactly.
[00:25:34]  I agree.
[00:25:36]  Yeah.
[00:25:37]  They lie.
[00:25:38]  I think they have lied about it.
[00:25:40]  It's the same type of thing that the Agent Orange thing was.
[00:25:44]  Well, that's why I asked.
[00:25:45]  Thank you.
[00:25:46]  What do we have to look forward to?
[00:25:48]  Do you think that our politicians, the people in power, our government agencies, are going to lie more or less?
[00:25:59]  I watched the 800 briefing, last one today, earlier today, and it was a lot of nothing.
[00:26:08]  They had said previously they were not going to have news conferences if they didn't have anything to announce.
[00:26:15]  And they spent a good half hour, maybe more, doing exactly what they said they wouldn't do.
[00:26:23]  They had nothing to say.
[00:26:26]  As a matter of fact, the journalists in the audience even really ran out of questions.
[00:26:29]  I asked them about photographs.
[00:26:30]  They said, can't comment on that.
[00:26:33]  They talked about the percentage of the plane they pulled out of the ocean so far.
[00:26:38]  Said they were working on the upper part of the airplane, but virtually said there is nothing new.
[00:26:44]  It took them a good half hour to do that.
[00:26:46]  First time caller line, you're on the air.
[00:26:48]  Hello.
[00:26:49]  Hello, Art.
[00:26:49]  I'm calling from Batarouge, Louisiana.
[00:26:51]  Yes, sir.
[00:26:53]  I want to ask something from yesterday.
[00:26:55]  You talked about Mars, about underserviced civilization and life.
[00:27:00]  Yes.
[00:27:00]  Can we talk about the Hollow Earth theory?
[00:27:03]  Is it truth in it then?
[00:27:04]  That there might be also life.
[00:27:07]  I have no idea.
[00:27:09]  I mean, do you?
[00:27:10]  No, that's why I I tried to call yesterday.
[00:27:13]  I mean, do you know that there's life under the earth?
[00:27:16]  The intelligent you had theories, like you had another seven, the interesting theory that there might be life under Earth.
[00:27:23]  There's only one person who knows.
[00:27:25]  Okay.
[00:27:26]  Thanks a lot.
[00:27:28]  You're welcome.
[00:27:28]  You don't even want to know who that person is.
[00:27:29]  It was Papua.
[00:27:31]  West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
[00:27:33]  Hello.
[00:27:33]  Thanks a lot.
[00:27:34]  Hello.
[00:27:35]  Goodbye.
[00:27:36]  Wildcard Line, you're on the air.
[00:27:37]  Top OD morning to you.
[00:27:39]  Well, hello, Art.
[00:27:40]  This is Mitch in Seattle.
[00:27:41]  Hi, Mitch.
[00:27:42]  How you doing?
[00:27:42]  Okay.
[00:27:43]  You know what?
[00:27:44]  I forgot your list that you were reading off as far as what would take us into the 21st century or things that Clinton was mentioning that could happen.
[00:27:53]  Well, he was saying we should have a 21st century where children are not killing children anymore, where children's lives are not shattered by violence at home or in the schoolyard, where a generation of young people are not left to raise themselves on the streets, where crime is a shocking exception, not business as usual.
[00:28:12]  And so it is reasonable, I think, to ask what is going to be going on in the 21st century.
[00:28:18]  Of course, Art.
[00:28:19]  It's all in perfect order.
[00:28:20]  I mean, let's talk about Hopi prophecy.
[00:28:22]  Let's talk about Gordon Michael Scallion.
[00:28:24]  It makes perfect sense that with all the earth changes and so forth going on that we would fall into that.
[00:28:31]  I think, put it in this way, that Clinton will get a lot of help.
[00:28:35]  I think we're in for some exciting times.
[00:28:39]  You're talking about Richter scale help.
[00:28:41]  Well, yeah.
[00:28:42]  Yes.
[00:28:45]  Richter Scale and Hopie and so many other types of things.
[00:28:50]  Isn't that what it's all about?
[00:28:52]  Well, I don't know.
[00:28:53]  Is it?
[00:28:53]  If, in fact, thank you, there is, as you suggest, massive earth changes, then, oh, yes, I suppose there will be massive social changes in whatever's left of the structure after the massive Richter realignment.
[00:29:18]  But I would really, for quite a time, picture more of a Mad Max scenario than I would sudden civilization.
[00:29:25]  East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
[00:29:27]  Good morning.
[00:29:29]  Yes.
[00:29:30]  I'm calling from Montgomery, Alabama.
[00:29:33]  Yes, sir.
[00:29:34]  Yeah.
[00:29:34]  Is this the R Bell show?
[00:29:36]  Well, sure.
[00:29:37]  Hey, how you doing?
[00:29:39]  I was calling about Bill Clinton's speech tonight.
[00:29:44]  Yes.
[00:29:44]  And all I can say was, first of all, I'm really nervous.
[00:29:51]  But I grew up in El Salvador.
[00:29:56]  And a lot of the presidents before all the bad stuff happened there were talking about government taking care of you, you know.
[00:30:08]  And the weird thing about it is, is that somebody said that in the Republican Convention, they mentioned the line.
[00:30:19]  And I think it's the truth that a government that can give you everything cannot, I mean, has the power to take everything from you.
[00:30:30]  Of course.
[00:30:31]  And even more.
[00:30:32]  Actually, before government can give you anything, if you think it over, it must first take it away, sir.
[00:30:39]  Thank you very much for the call.
[00:30:41]  The government does not have any income except that which we give it.
[00:30:47]  So when the government talks about giving something to us, it must first take it away.
[00:30:53]  I mean, think about it.
[00:30:54]  The government has no money of its own.
[00:30:58]  It can't give us squat.
[00:31:01]  But it can take away and then redistribute.
[00:31:05]  That's about the only thing government can actually do when you think it over.
[00:31:09]  Wildcard line, you're on the air.
[00:31:11]  Hello.
[00:31:12]  Yes.
[00:31:14]  Clinton and what we can expect in the coming century.
[00:31:19]  Yes.
[00:31:20]  If he's re-elected, I wonder if we'll ever have another election after that.
[00:31:26]  And if we do, I predict it will be Goren Clinton, Gore and Hillary, that will be the ticket for the next election.
[00:31:35]  As somebody said.
[00:31:36]  In other words, you're expecting him to say goodbye to the Constitution.
[00:31:41]  That's right.
[00:31:42]  As someone said on another talk show tonight, God have mercy on America.
[00:31:47]  That's what I believe.
[00:31:49]  Well, bad as Mr. Clinton may be, I believe, ma'am, that basically God does have mercy on America.
[00:31:55]  And even with another four years, we will survive.
[00:31:59]  Well, I hope you're right.
[00:32:01]  I think I am.
[00:32:02]  Thank you very much for the call.
[00:32:04]  I'm not that downbeat.
[00:32:06]  I do think this president is going to be re-elected.
[00:32:10]  And I'm not even downbeat about that anymore.
[00:32:12]  I just think it's going to happen.
[00:32:13]  He's going to get another four years.
[00:32:15]  I'm almost positive.
[00:32:17]  And I think we will survive it.
[00:32:21]  I'm not sure about how the Congress and the Senate are going to come out, but I think we will survive it.
[00:32:28]  I don't think it's going to be the end.
[00:32:29]  I don't think it's going to be the final election.
[00:32:31]  I don't think Mr. Clinton's going to trash the Constitution and simply crown himself or his wife or his vice president.
[00:32:41]  So we'll make it through it.
[00:32:43]  East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
[00:32:45]  Hi.
[00:32:46]  Hey, Art.
[00:32:46]  Yes.
[00:32:47]  Listen, I'm just kind of strange when I'm listening to this debate sort of on your show and a few other people who go through the difference between Dole and Clinton and who's better for what.
[00:33:05]  Now, here I am.
[00:33:06]  I'm a person.
[00:33:06]  I make little money at all.
[00:33:08]  And it doesn't seem to matter who goes in.
[00:33:11]  I'm just above welfare and just below middle class.
[00:33:15]  It doesn't seem to matter who goes in.
[00:33:16]  Where does it affect me?
[00:33:20]  It depends on a lot of things, but as a general rule, I don't disagree with you.
[00:33:27]  There is not going to be a great effect, frankly, one way or the other.
[00:33:31]  I'm trying to be honest here.
[00:33:32]  Yeah, I understand.
[00:33:33]  I said, I'm a 30-year-old man.
[00:33:36]  I've just recently been getting into listening to the politics of who's doing what.
[00:33:42]  And I said, more than likely to me, it seems as though on both sides, it's just bashing each other.
[00:33:47]  It doesn't seem to affect who's doing what or how they're doing.
[00:33:50]  It's just bashing each other down.
[00:33:53]  Yeah, there's a lot of that.
[00:33:55]  In other words, you're waking up to the reality of politics.
[00:33:58]  Yeah, in a sad way.
[00:34:00]  Yeah, I am.
[00:34:02]  Well, in a lot of ways, the state of modern politics is quite sad.
[00:34:07]  So you're seeing reality.
[00:34:12]  I can't offer you any great encouragement to tell you that it is not what you see because it is what you see.
[00:34:18]  You're seeing it accurately, sir.
[00:34:20]  No.
[00:34:21]  I wish I could see it differently.
[00:34:24]  Well, good luck.
[00:34:26]  Yeah, thank you.
[00:34:27]  All right.
[00:34:28]  You're welcome.
[00:34:30]  That's the way I feel about it.
[00:34:32]  He is seeing reality and is apparently sad about it.
[00:34:37]  I'm sad about it too, but I guess I just accept what is.
[00:34:41]  And I see what is rather than what I wish.
[00:34:44]  I see a president who is a master at his craft and his craft is telling us what we want to hear, and the majority of the people out there like that, and they will re-elect him.
[00:34:56]  I would lay money on it.
[00:35:17]  West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
[00:35:18]  Hi.
[00:35:19]  Good morning, Art.
[00:35:20]  Good morning.
[00:35:21]  Tim in Denver, Cayha Country.
[00:35:22]  Yes, sir.
[00:35:23]  Yeah, I was wondering I needed to comment on or wanted to comment on the Major Dame show last night.
[00:35:29]  All right.
[00:35:30]  Have you ever spoken with Ramona about possibly taking classes?
[00:35:37]  You know, it's strange, you should ask.
[00:35:40]  We did.
[00:35:42]  I don't think that I would.
[00:35:44]  And during, you know, the times when we've done the experiments?
[00:35:47]  Uh-huh.
[00:35:48]  Yeah.
[00:35:49]  I felt a very distinct, and so did she, uncomfortable feeling of intrusion.
[00:35:59]  Now, it was eerie.
[00:36:01]  You know, it's like you could feel a million eyes looking at you and the things around you, and it was not a comfortable feeling.
[00:36:09]  I'm glad you brought that up.
[00:36:10]  I've heard you mention that several times.
[00:36:13]  And I was going to ask, do you think that has any bearing on the lifestyle that you have?
[00:36:19]  Basically, that you're, you know, kind of secluded out and don't have a whole gang of people around you all the time.
[00:36:26]  No, I don't think much more.
[00:36:28]  No, I don't think that it makes any difference where I live.
[00:36:31]  I could be in the middle of New York City or in Peru, Nevada, and the million, had I invited them, and I did invite them, it was an experiment, I still would have felt the millions of eyes.
[00:36:41]  You see what I'm saying?
[00:36:41]  It doesn't matter where you are.
[00:36:43]  That's true.
[00:36:44]  That's true.
[00:36:44]  Well, I was always curious about that.
[00:36:46]  I thought also it was fascinating.
[00:36:48]  So many things that he would not comment on, but he seemed absolutely had no qualms whatsoever about commenting on the biblical prophecies, the revelations, the Calvary.
[00:37:02]  He commented on those.
[00:37:04]  He said it was all dead on.
[00:37:05]  Right on.
[00:37:06]  I thought that was real fascinating.
[00:37:08]  Great interview again.
[00:37:10]  I thank you, sir.
[00:37:11]  It was a good interview.
[00:37:13]  He is a fascinating man to interview.
[00:37:16]  There's no question about it.
[00:37:18]  Fascinating.
[00:37:19]  Very good interview.
[00:37:24]  And when I'm done with an interview, doing an interview like that really takes it out of you, believe it or not.
[00:37:31]  It draws from you because you are forced to pay extra attention, very, very specific attention to what is said.
[00:37:42]  And you've got to do that for several hours in a row.

=== Cuba And Media Lies (15:39) ===

[00:37:47]  Otherwise, it is not a good interview.
[00:37:49]  I mean, when you have a guest on, you've got to actually sit and really listen to what they say, or it turns into a lousy interview because you're not tracking.
[00:38:00]  So it takes a lot out of you.
[00:38:02]  Doing a really good interview, believe it or not, sort of takes a lot of energy from you because, as I say, you've got to literally listen to each specific word in the content of what's being said, or you cannot ask the proper follow-up questions.
[00:38:18]  Wildcard line, you're on the air.
[00:38:20]  Hi.
[00:38:20]  Good morning, Nard.
[00:38:21]  How are you doing?
[00:38:22]  I'm doing okay.
[00:38:22]  This is Jerry from Down Riverside.
[00:38:25]  Yes, sir.
[00:38:25]  I had a wild question that came to my mind here a while back.
[00:38:28]  I just wondered, we're talking about Bill Clinton, and what would happen if we had a simultaneous assassination of both Clinton and Gore?
[00:38:40]  Who would take the office?
[00:38:41]  Newt Gingrich.
[00:38:42]  Gingrich.
[00:38:43]  Wouldn't that be amazing?
[00:38:46]  No, it would be constitutional.
[00:38:49]  It would be constitutional, right?
[00:38:51]  That's quite a thought.
[00:38:53]  That's my question.
[00:38:54]  That was all.
[00:38:54]  Well, that's my answer, and that's all there, too.
[00:38:58]  That is what the Constitution says would occur.
[00:39:00]  First time caller line, you're on the air.
[00:39:02]  Hi.
[00:39:03]  Hi, Art.
[00:39:04]  How are you doing?
[00:39:05]  I'm doing.
[00:39:07]  This is Jim from Camp Girardo.
[00:39:09]  I listened to the President's speech tonight, and I don't see how you can compare Dore with Clinton in any aspect.
[00:39:15]  Least Bill Clinton knows what he said 10 minutes after he said it.
[00:39:21]  Well, that's pretty unkind.
[00:39:24]  As far as I can see, Bob Dole's memory seems to be intact.
[00:39:28]  You seem to imply it's not.
[00:39:30]  Ronald Reagan had some memory problems, but Bob Dole seems to be able to have good recollection.
[00:39:38]  Well, just like when Bob was making his speech yesterday about cigarettes, after his speech, they wanted to know what he was talking about.
[00:39:45]  Bob says marijuana cigarettes is what he meant.
[00:39:48]  Oh, I see.
[00:39:50]  You mean he misspoke and corrected?
[00:39:52]  Well, he just doesn't put two and two together.
[00:39:58]  So you liked the president's speech tonight.
[00:40:01]  Oh, yeah, I love President Clinton.
[00:40:03]  I think he's, you know, the only choice this country has.
[00:40:07]  Well, that's not true.
[00:40:08]  There is a choice.
[00:40:10]  I guess you mean he's the only one that you would vote for.
[00:40:15]  I understand that.
[00:40:16]  He is a master speech giver.
[00:40:19]  There is no question about it.
[00:40:20]  You must admire his delivery.
[00:40:23]  It is professional.
[00:40:26]  Wonder how much of it Mr. Morris inspired.
[00:40:29]  I'm Art Bell, and we'll be right back.
[00:40:31]  The trip back in time continues with Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast A.M. More Somewhere in Time coming up.
[00:41:11]  Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
[00:41:14]  Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from August 29, 1996.
[00:41:19]  Good morning, everybody.
[00:41:20]  Welcome back to the Best Talk Radio in the night time.
[00:41:24]  No brag, just back.
[00:41:25]  We're the best.
[00:41:27]  And it's because of all of you, and I want you to know I appreciate it.
[00:41:32]  There is apparently a car stalled right in the middle of one of the lanes of the information superhighway,
[00:42:00]  which is a metaphorical way of saying to you that there is a brownout going on, web-wide.
[00:42:07]  and some people have not been able to get into my website, or for that matter, many others.
[00:42:12]  Other people who have been rerouted around the stalled automobile, metaphorical automobile, are still able to access websites.
[00:42:21]  So it's kind of a hit-miss proposition, part of the growing pains of the net.
[00:42:29]  The president trying to build bridges to the 21st century, accusing Bob Dole of wanting to build bridges back to the 50s.
[00:42:39]  And so I thought I would ask you all what you see for across the bridge.
[00:42:44]  What do you see across the bridge, this bridge to the 21st century?
[00:42:50]  What do you see?
[00:42:51]  Socially, economically, politically, environmentally?
[00:42:54]  What's going to be on the other side of that bridge?
[00:42:56]  What is the life that we will be leading as older adults, senior citizens even, and our children?
[00:43:03]  What are they going to be walking into in that 21st century?
[00:43:07]  On the West of the Rockies line, you're on the air.
[00:43:10]  Hi.
[00:43:11]  Hi, Arthur.
[00:43:12]  This is Belter from Seattle, Washington.
[00:43:14]  Yes, sir.
[00:43:15]  You're quite popular after you're on two radio stations, KBI and COMO.
[00:43:19]  I know.
[00:43:20]  It's almost unheard of.
[00:43:21]  And I'll tell you something even more interesting.
[00:43:23]  When they measure the hours between 11 and 1, that time during which we are on both stations, we come in number one on Como and number two on KVI.
[00:43:38]  I mean, that's absolutely incredible in a metropolitan area the size of Seattle for the same show to be on two radio stations and come in number one and number two is incredible.
[00:43:50]  Well, that's great.
[00:43:51]  I'm glad you have a fantastic show.
[00:43:54]  And the reason I called is because of all this gloom and doom about Clinton.
[00:43:59]  One thing a lot of people are forgetting is that Clinton was not elected by a majority.
[00:44:05]  He was elected at 43%.
[00:44:08]  He had a Ross Perrell in there that took 20% of the votes.
[00:44:12]  And I do believe if he wouldn't have been in there that Bush would be our president right now.
[00:44:16]  And I think people ought to take that into consideration.
[00:44:20]  Another thing is all these things that he said he accomplished, he would have never accomplished if he would have had a Democratic Congress.
[00:44:28]  Most everything that he was starting off about tonight were things that the Republicans introduced in their Republican Congress.
[00:44:37]  Well, that is a true statement.
[00:44:40]  But your first statement was not necessarily true.
[00:44:42]  All the polls support the opposite conclusion, and that is that if Rossborough had been out of the race altogether, the vote would have split roughly evenly, and William Jefferson Clinton, which they now call him, would still be our president now.
[00:44:59]  Well, of course they're going to say that on the poll's end.
[00:45:01]  I mean, they want this guy in the house.
[00:45:04]  And people, if they didn't see through his rhetoric tonight, I'm just amazed that people can fall to this two times.
[00:45:11]  You know, it's still me once.
[00:45:14]  You know, shame on you.
[00:45:16]  I know.
[00:45:17]  Shame on me, right?
[00:45:17]  Well, yes, of course.
[00:45:19]  But the answer is, sir, that he is doing it again.
[00:45:23]  He is going to be re-elected.
[00:45:25]  He is a great speech giver.
[00:45:29]  And he is a great politician.
[00:45:32]  I give him all of that.
[00:45:36]  And those qualities will get him re-elected.
[00:45:42]  And you can call it what you will.
[00:45:46]  Image over substance.
[00:45:49]  It is.
[00:45:51]  And it works.
[00:45:54]  And the American people will once again swallow it.
[00:45:57]  Hook, line, and sinker.
[00:46:00]  West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
[00:46:02]  Hi.
[00:46:03]  Hello.
[00:46:04]  Hi.
[00:46:05]  Turn your radio off, please.
[00:46:06]  Turn my radio off.
[00:46:07]  That's it.
[00:46:08]  West of the Rockies, you're home.
[00:46:10]  Much better, thank you.
[00:46:12]  Sorry about that.
[00:46:14]  Just like to comment on his speech tonight.
[00:46:16]  Sure.
[00:46:16]  Where are you, pray tell?
[00:46:17]  Reno, Nevada.
[00:46:18]  Reno.
[00:46:19]  All right.
[00:46:21]  Go ahead.
[00:46:22]  Go ahead.
[00:46:24]  My name is Larry.
[00:46:25]  Okay, Larry.
[00:46:28]  I want to know what they're going to talk about when Mr. Clinton gets out of office.
[00:46:32]  Basically, hopefully.
[00:46:34]  What do you mean?
[00:46:36]  What do I mean?
[00:46:36]  I hope he's defeated this election night.
[00:46:38]  Oh, I see.
[00:46:40]  What do you think will happen, Larry?
[00:46:42]  Well, personally, I do believe that the USA and the world cannot take another four years of Mr. Clinton.
[00:46:51]  Yes, it can.
[00:46:54]  We'll survive Bill Clinton.
[00:46:56]  Pardon me?
[00:46:56]  We will survive Bill Clinton.
[00:46:59]  Do you realize that Cuba is trying to build two nuclear power plants?
[00:47:04]  No, they're about half done, actually.
[00:47:06]  Okay.
[00:47:07]  Are you aware that they're using crap they got from Chernobyl?
[00:47:11]  Yep.
[00:47:12]  Okay.
[00:47:13]  And are you aware that they could possibly nuke us without possibly saying a nuclear missile into the air and destroy us from South Carolina to Texas?
[00:47:23]  Absolutely.
[00:47:24]  What would you suggest be done?
[00:47:26]  Well, what I would suggest to be done was, number one, get him out of office.
[00:47:31]  How's that going to change the nuclear construction in Cuba?
[00:47:35]  Okay.
[00:47:35]  Well, like Kennedy, and I was in that thing during Cuba, the Cuban crisis, we need a president with some cool ones.
[00:47:45]  I'm Italian, so I hope you understand what Kuyons are to say no, you're not going to do this.
[00:47:53]  Well, no, wait, just one moment.
[00:47:55]  We have had trouble with Cuba.
[00:47:56]  It has been a thorn in our close-in behind for many years, as you pointed out.
[00:48:02]  Absolutely.
[00:48:03]  And, I might add, through the Reagan and Bush administrations.
[00:48:08]  Now, if Reagan and Bush didn't do anything about Cuba, why would you think that anybody who would succeed William Jefferson would?
[00:48:18]  Okay.
[00:48:19]  That's because simply because Kennedy had the guts enough to say, you will take your missiles out and not do this thing here.
[00:48:31]  Consequently, the same thing would happen with the nuclear power plant because technically he could nuke us without having to ever send a missile in the air.
[00:48:40]  Well, it would be a suicidal act, sir.
[00:48:42]  I thank you for the call.
[00:48:43]  I understand what you're saying, but a nuclear plant, however possibly faulty, is not the same thing as offensive nuclear weapons.
[00:48:56]  They're just not the same thing.
[00:48:57]  Now, the effect, if something should go tragically wrong, wouldn't be greatly different, but in terms of any president, Clinton, or Bob Dole, should he take office, beat Clinton take office, going in and essentially bombing these nuclear plants under construction, the chances of that are slim and none.
[00:49:20]  Not going to happen.
[00:49:21]  Wildcard line, you're on the air.
[00:49:23]  Good morning.
[00:49:24]  Good morning, Art.
[00:49:25]  This is Mike in Kansas.
[00:49:27]  Yes, sir.
[00:49:28]  You asked the question a while ago, do I expect more truth or more lying in government?
[00:49:33]  Well, yeah, as we get to the 21st century, do you think that the politicians and the government, do you think and the agencies of the government are going to straighten up and begin to fly right and be like the old days where they told us the truth, or are we going to get increasing lies and cover-ups?
[00:49:52]  Well, I came to my conclusion.
[00:49:54]  I think more lies and cover-ups.
[00:49:56]  They came to my conclusion, but I'm not very happy about it for three reasons.
[00:50:01]  Number one, when you have major suppression of scientific evidence, but media, you know, as far as these researchers go, very credible researchers with very well-documented evidence like Mr. Hoagland, you know, and they're treated like they are in the press.
[00:50:18]  And number two, you have very suspicious, they cast suspicion upon themselves in this bomb, this airplane bombing the press has.
[00:50:29]  Yes.
[00:50:29]  You know, you know.
[00:50:31]  And number three, when you have major publications like the Wall Street Journal, the New York Times written an article, Reader's Digest wrote two articles on finally, after all these years, voter fraud.
[00:50:42]  I mean, they encourage that, the media, unfortunately.
[00:50:50]  Let me expand on that a little bit.
[00:50:52]  I watched, as I said, the press conference on Flight 800 earlier today, which, of course, said nothing and violated their own promise they would not come to say nothing.
[00:51:03]  But they did.
[00:51:05]  What really surprises me, and if you have been watching the press conferences, maybe you've noticed the same thing.
[00:51:12]  Our press used to be very inquisitive, very forceful, and very persistent in their questions until some way or another we would get an answer.
[00:51:27]  These days, when you have this press conference with the FBI and TSB and so forth and so on, The press will ask a question.
[00:51:36]  They will say, we're not going to comment on that, and the press will, at that, let it drop, whatever it is.
[00:51:42]  They let it drop.
[00:51:43]  They don't even press.
[00:51:45]  I mean, nobody's saying you're going to get an answer.
[00:51:47]  But the press, I think, is getting lazier.
[00:51:50]  I really do.
[00:51:51]  There was a day when people would press to the wall to try to get to whatever it was.
[00:51:57]  These days, a government official says, that's it.
[00:52:00]  We're not going to comment, or no comment, or with regard, for example, to the photograph.
[00:52:06]  They asked them about that.
[00:52:07]  They just said, well, we're not going to comment on that.
[00:52:09]  No comment.
[00:52:11]  That photograph that we've got up on the website.
[00:52:13]  No comment.
[00:52:15]  And the press just let it drop easily without coming back to it or trying to come back to it.
[00:52:21]  It's kind of a lazy press out there now, I think.
[00:52:24]  East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
[00:52:26]  Hi.
[00:52:27]  Hi.
[00:52:27]  How are you?
[00:52:28]  Okay.
[00:52:29]  Where are you?
[00:52:31]  Lexington, Illinois.
[00:52:32]  Lexington, Illinois.
[00:52:34]  All right.
[00:52:34]  Go ahead.
[00:52:35]  Oh, you've got your radio on.
[00:52:36]  You've got to turn that off, sir.
[00:52:38]  Turn that off?
[00:52:39]  Yes.
[00:52:39]  I'm not talking to him now, though, right?
[00:52:42]  Who's him?
[00:52:44]  Arbel.
[00:52:46]  Are we going to turn off the radio?
[00:52:47]  Yeah, hang on, second.
[00:52:48]  I'm hanging.
[00:52:50]  Got to get that radio off.
[00:52:52]  See, they don't believe they're talking to me until they apparently hear it on the radio.
[00:52:58]  Well, this radio must have been some ways away.
[00:53:00]  We will wait until hell freeze is over if we have to.
[00:53:06]  Sorry, you don't sound the same.
[00:53:07]  Uh-huh.
[00:53:08]  I'm told that occasionally.
[00:53:09]  How you doing, partner?

=== Clinton's Speech Controversy (03:41) ===

[00:53:11]  Okay, sir.
[00:53:14]  I'm calling in about Clinton's speech tonight.
[00:53:17]  Yes.
[00:53:18]  What did you think about it?
[00:53:20]  I've been saying for the last hour and a half what I thought about it.
[00:53:23]  I thought it was well delivered.
[00:53:25]  It was.
[00:53:26]  President delivers a good speech.
[00:53:29]  Did I agree with the content?
[00:53:30]  No, not necessarily.
[00:53:33]  Some of it sounded good.
[00:53:35]  Some of it sounded like a, frankly, a Republican speech.
[00:53:39]  There was a lot of, may he politically rest in peace, Roger Morris influence in that speech.
[00:53:48]  Maybe even, you know, when you think about it a little bit, you know, that $200 hooker he's said to have been with, Roger Morris?
[00:53:54]  Right.
[00:53:55]  I wonder if she contributed to the content of the speech, and maybe Hillary's as well.
[00:54:03]  And if she did, she was certainly underpaid.
[00:54:08]  And it could have been.
[00:54:09]  But don't we all make mistakes, you know?
[00:54:13]  I mean, people work for you.
[00:54:17]  Are you subject to their, you know, are you subject to their mess-ups, you know?
[00:54:24]  Of course.
[00:54:26]  Are you?
[00:54:27]  Of course.
[00:54:28]  Are you really?
[00:54:29]  Of course.
[00:54:30]  I mean, you know, I work for a network, and if along the line in the network somebody screws up and all of a sudden we go off the air, of course I'm subject to the...
[00:54:43]  No, well, I'm talking pretty much the same kind of situation.
[00:54:48]  So I'm not responsible.
[00:54:50]  For your employees' personal relationships.
[00:54:55]  Right, but it could be perceived that way.
[00:54:59]  Of course, look, yes, the answer to that is yes, I am.
[00:55:04]  Sure.
[00:55:06]  In a lot of ways, I am tied to what other people in the network do.
[00:55:13]  Potentially.
[00:55:16]  Now, am I responsible specifically if somebody else in the network does something terrible?
[00:55:22]  No.
[00:55:24]  Could it reflect if it was a big press story?
[00:55:27]  Yeah, sure it could.
[00:55:30]  Did this come at a bad moment for the president?
[00:55:33]  Couldn't be worse.
[00:55:36]  Was it planned that way?
[00:55:38]  Oh, I'm sure a lot of Democrats think so.
[00:55:41]  Timed just right to crash in on the president and ruin his moment of glory, otherwise glory.
[00:55:53]  I don't know.
[00:55:54]  My guess is, you know, early in the day when it was breaking, people were hearing it on other radio shows, and they were calling in and saying, it's the end of Clinton.
[00:56:05]  This is it.
[00:56:06]  Roger Morris, look what happened with Roger Morris.
[00:56:09]  It's the end of Clinton.
[00:56:09]  No, it's not.
[00:56:11]  No, it's not.
[00:56:13]  To some degree, it is embarrassing.
[00:56:17]  From the President's perspective, poorly timed.
[00:56:23]  It doesn't fit in with the village people image very well.
[00:56:28]  Unless you just want to include the village Vixen as part of the image.
[00:56:35]  Makes a rough cut on family values, but probably not the end of the president's candidacy, to be sure.

=== Aliens from Underneath the Mountain (03:46) ===

[00:56:42]  East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
[00:56:44]  Hi.
[00:56:45]  Hi, Arabel.
[00:56:46]  Hello.
[00:56:48]  My name's Sean.
[00:56:50]  Okay.
[00:56:50]  I'm from Lafayette, Indiana.
[00:56:52]  All right, Sean.
[00:56:53]  And I was calling because I heard earlier tonight someone mentioned aliens from underground.
[00:57:02]  Yeah, the hollow earth theory.
[00:57:03]  Yeah, when I spent about six months in Córdoba, Argentina, and there's a mountain range out there.
[00:57:12]  And supposedly, the story goes that there's a lot of alien sightings, and they come up from underneath the mountain.
[00:57:22]  And I went out to this place called Chempey.
[00:57:25]  It's out in the mountains.
[00:57:27]  Did you see any of them?
[00:57:28]  Yeah, we did.
[00:57:29]  You did.
[00:57:29]  What did you see?
[00:57:32]  What it was was.
[00:57:34]  It's like a smooth tunnel and it will.
[00:57:39]  That's, that's a poor way to describe it.
[00:57:41]  What it?
[00:57:42]  It's very strange.
[00:57:43]  It's like a just a pass between two mountains and it's no more than a hundred yards long.
[00:57:49]  Well that, that's, that's the entrance.
[00:57:51]  Uh, what?
[00:57:51]  What were the beings like?
[00:57:53]  Um, I didn't see anything like that.
[00:57:55]  All we saw, all we saw was a blue flash of light and we saw something come through and we got out of the mountains pretty fast.
[00:58:06]  Um, because there's a lot of horror stories and folk stories from all the people around there of all the different things that happened to the people.
[00:58:15]  They got caught by there, And one of the particular stories was there was a farmer, and he was continually having problems, I guess, because he farmed near the area and they were taking his sheep and just scaring off his farmhand.
[00:58:31]  So he set up posse to go after them.
[00:58:34]  Well, they must not have a very good setup down there if they've got to come up here and steal farm animals.
[00:58:41]  Well, I'm really not sure.
[00:58:43]  I mean, that was just a story that I heard.
[00:58:46]  And so supposedly he went out and killed several aliens, but he finally disappeared.
[00:58:54]  Well, you know what he should have done?
[00:58:57]  He should have blown up the hole.
[00:59:00]  Well, it's about, you know, it may only be, it's about 100 yards long, but it's a good quarter of a mile across.
[00:59:09]  Uh-huh.
[00:59:10]  Well, I mean, still enough explosive, and you just close that little puppy off, and that'll be, you know, they'll have to come up somewhere else if they're down there.
[00:59:20]  As I said, if they've got to come up and steal sheep and farm animals, then it couldn't be too cool down there.
[00:59:29]  But of course, we know it's not too cool down there, don't we?
[00:59:32]  This is Premier Networks.
[00:59:34]  That was Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM on this Somewhere in Time.

=== Open Lines Tonight (08:54) ===

[01:00:19]  take you back to the past on Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
[01:00:24]  Welcome to the program.
[01:00:25]  Those of you who join at this hour, anything is possible tonight.
[01:00:29]  Anything at all?
[01:00:31]  Who knows?
[01:00:31]  But then again, that's kind of the way I like it.
[01:00:34]  All right, listen.
[01:00:54]  Here's what's coming.
[01:00:55]  Tonight, we're going to have open lines, as we're having.
[01:00:58]  Tomorrow night, Dr. Hertog will be here.
[01:01:01]  A lot of people have been waiting for that interview.
[01:01:04]  And Sunday, coming up on Dreamland, is Dr. Stephen Greer, founder and director of the Center for the Study of Extraterrestrial Intelligence, or C SETI.
[01:01:17]  That's going to be Sunday.
[01:01:19]  C SETI coming up this Sunday on Dreamland, Dr. Hertog, tomorrow night.
[01:01:23]  Tonight, it's all yours.
[01:01:27]  West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
[01:01:29]  Hi.
[01:01:30]  Hi, this is The Economist of Monterey.
[01:01:32]  What I expect for the future if we cross the bridge?
[01:01:35]  Yes.
[01:01:36]  Yes.
[01:01:37]  Well, currently I'm looking at projections of a deficit after 1997, which coincidentally happens to be this year.
[01:01:46]  And we're looking at a big spike going up about $700 billion by the year 2002.
[01:01:52]  $700 billion annual deficit.
[01:01:55]  Can you believe that?
[01:01:56]  Unless we absolutely instill the health care plan of President Clinton, the projected deficits at that time would be around $50 billion by the year 2002.
[01:02:07]  The nation overwhelmingly rejected the health care plan.
[01:02:11]  I know, but I'm telling you, there's no man-by-pambying about with your morality issues here when we're talking for financial survival.
[01:02:18]  Unless we have this health care plan that can cut this egregious behavior, we're going down the tubes.
[01:02:24]  Now, you want to go down the tubes?
[01:02:26]  Well, if I do, I want them to be my tubes, not the government's.
[01:02:30]  And if we turn health care over to the government, we'll go down those tubes.
[01:02:34]  Oh, by the way, you're on KNRY here in Monterey, too.
[01:02:37]  Uh-huh.
[01:02:37]  Well, China.
[01:02:39]  But look at China.
[01:02:39]  Look at their savings rate.
[01:02:41]  They're not squeamish when it comes to morality and all this.
[01:02:44]  They've got a 40% savings rate.
[01:02:49]  The United States, less than 20%.
[01:02:51]  It's more like 15%.
[01:02:53]  So unless we address some of these problems, and the only way to do that is to cross this bridge to the 21st century, meaning having health care, having incentives that are consistent to employing a workforce, having all the things that President Clinton says.
[01:03:08]  And if we don't, if we go with the dole camp and the supply-siders with their contractionary monetary and fiscal policy, you're going to be looking at a trillion-dollar deficit every year.
[01:03:17]  What are you going to do then?
[01:03:18]  All right.
[01:03:18]  Well, thank you for the call.
[01:03:20]  I think the dole camp would represent that a large tax cut that you simply regard as something you subtract from what you will otherwise have from the government's point of view is a very simplistic reaction to a tax cut.
[01:03:39]  And I think that if you look at all of history, you'll find that when taxes are cut, ultimately it produces more revenue, not less for the government.
[01:03:49]  That apparently is an abstract concept to you that you cannot grasp because you can only do subtraction.
[01:03:56]  First time caller line, you're on the air.
[01:03:59]  Hi.
[01:03:59]  Hi, good morning, all right.
[01:04:00]  Good morning to you.
[01:04:01]  Clackmasm again.
[01:04:02]  Yes, sir.
[01:04:04]  You'll have to get close to the phone and speak up to us.
[01:04:07]  Okay.
[01:04:07]  Can you hear me now?
[01:04:08]  Oh, that's much better.
[01:04:09]  Okay.
[01:04:11]  In the Tuesday Oregonian, they had an article about Farrakhan.
[01:04:17]  Yes.
[01:04:17]  And it puts Clinton in mind over Libyan funds.
[01:04:20]  Well, the government has come back and told Farrakhan he may not have the billion from Libya.
[01:04:26]  I know.
[01:04:27]  It quotes him, though, as saying, if you're going to deny black people the help of their own brother, then we're going to rise up against you.
[01:04:36]  And it says, we don't have a damn thing to lose but our chains.
[01:04:40]  And that kind of makes me think that maybe that's where our civil war may come within the United States.
[01:04:46]  You think it'd be a racial war?
[01:04:48]  Oh, yeah.
[01:04:49]  I don't think Farrakhan has a large enough army following him.
[01:04:53]  Really?
[01:04:54]  Yep.
[01:04:59]  It goes on to saying that he's not an agent of God, or he's an agent of God, and if the government requests that I should register as an agent of God, I will be happy to do so.
[01:05:09]  Well, I think the question was more about registering as an agent of the Libyan government.
[01:05:14]  So you don't think that Farrakhan's going to be a thorn in our.
[01:05:19]  Yeah, I think he is.
[01:05:20]  He's already a thorn, sir, to answer your question.
[01:05:24]  Will black America follow Farrakhan into a civil war?
[01:05:27]  No.
[01:05:28]  No.
[01:05:30]  In his dreams.
[01:05:32]  So he's just a little sourness over not being able to get the billion, not being able to bring that in.
[01:05:38]  But you see, we don't do that.
[01:05:40]  It doesn't relate just to Mr. Farrakhan's billion.
[01:05:42]  It relates to any other dealings we have with Libya because of the sponsorship of terrorism and the harboring of those who would kill Americans.
[01:05:52]  East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
[01:05:54]  Hi, Art Pat, calling from Omaha, Nebraska.
[01:05:56]  Yes, sir.
[01:05:57]  How are you this morning?
[01:05:58]  I'm fine.
[01:05:58]  Great.
[01:05:59]  Just got a ticket to Dew Amateur Radio, and I was reading an article there in the One Magazine when Wayne was talking about how the things are changing.
[01:06:09]  Hey, Dee, if you get 73, did you...
[01:06:11]  I'm sorry.
[01:06:12]  Yeah, that's what he was.
[01:06:13]  The article was in 73 magazine.
[01:06:14]  Did you happen to notice he wrote about two columns in his magazine about being on my program?
[01:06:20]  Yeah, it was neat.
[01:06:21]  I sat and read almost all the whole article.
[01:06:23]  It was really informative.
[01:06:24]  It really was.
[01:06:26]  I noticed that one thing, they're doing some airtime there for SMR.
[01:06:30]  Is that going to hurt that spectrum any as far as what do you mean hurt it?
[01:06:36]  It's long since gone.
[01:06:37]  We lost that a long time ago.
[01:06:38]  Oh, it's history.
[01:06:39]  Out.
[01:06:40]  Okay.
[01:06:40]  Yeah, oh, yeah, that's history.
[01:06:42]  Well, anyway, love your program.
[01:06:44]  It's a blast.
[01:06:44]  It keeps me up all night, but it's great.
[01:06:46]  Keeps me up all night, too.
[01:06:47]  It's a good thing.
[01:06:48]  Thank you very much.
[01:06:49]  Congratulations on getting licensed.
[01:06:52]  Ham radio is a lot of fun.
[01:06:55]  As a matter of fact, I think that when I get off the air this morning, I will show up on 3890.
[01:07:06]  Let's make it 3890 this time, shall we?
[01:07:09]  3.890 in the 75-meter band, lower side band.
[01:07:15]  That's 3.890.
[01:07:20]  Give my new rig a little time.
[01:07:22]  Short wave is a blast.
[01:07:24]  So congratulations to you.
[01:07:27]  First time caller line, you're on the air.
[01:07:29]  Hi.
[01:07:30]  Hello, Art.
[01:07:30]  How are you?
[01:07:31]  Okay.
[01:07:32]  Calling from Las Vegas.
[01:07:33]  My name's Guy.
[01:07:34]  KVEG.
[01:07:36]  Yes, yes.
[01:07:37]  I just wanted to call, to pass on a little information.
[01:07:41]  We have a little astronomical event happening in September, which is the total lunar eclipse.
[01:07:48]  Is there one in September?
[01:07:49]  Yes.
[01:07:50]  No kidding.
[01:07:50]  When?
[01:07:52]  It's September 26th.
[01:07:55]  And where will the moon phase be?
[01:07:57]  Well, let me see.
[01:08:01]  here it starts at 9 12 eastern daylight time depending on what you know part of the United States you live in but it should it will be visible throughout all again where will the moon phase be In other words, will it be a full moon, half-moon, a harvest moon?
[01:08:19]  Oh, really?
[01:08:20]  So this will be a total lunar eclipse, and it will not occur again until the year 2000.
[01:08:26]  So I just thought I'd pass that along.
[01:08:28]  Well, I'm glad you did, and I'll be out there checking it out.
[01:08:31]  Sounds a little early in the West.
[01:08:33]  6.15 or so in the West.
[01:08:35]  That's a little early still in September.
[01:08:39]  Though, maybe not.
[01:08:40]  Maybe the big old harvest moon up there.
[01:08:45]  I'd like to see the swath.

=== Imagining Bridges Metaphor (10:37) ===

[01:08:48]  In other words, where totality will be visible.
[01:08:53]  That's something to look forward to.
[01:08:55]  East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
[01:08:57]  Hi.
[01:08:58]  Good morning, Art.
[01:08:59]  Good morning.
[01:09:00]  This is Andy calling from Minneapolis, St. Paul.
[01:09:02]  Yes, sir.
[01:09:03]  See, I'm a little troubled by the metaphor of building of bridges that President Clinton seemed so eager to invoke this past evening.
[01:09:12]  That seemed to be the central theme.
[01:09:14]  And I haven't heard anyone comment on the use of that metaphor as opposed to a metaphor that perhaps might be a little more useful.
[01:09:25]  I'm trying to imagine when we build bridges, we're typically trying to cross over something.
[01:09:30]  And I'm wondering what it is, in fact, that President Clinton wants us to imagine ourselves crossing over.
[01:09:38]  Well, he wants us to cross over into the land where children don't kill children anymore, where children's lives are not shattered by violence in the schoolyards, where it's safe in the streets, where crime is a rare exception, not the norm.
[01:09:58]  That's what he wants.
[01:09:59]  Yeah, well, my problem with that is that, let's say, we imagine a river or a body of water that we build a bridge over.
[01:10:08]  The intention of building a bridge is so that we avoid contact with the water or what have you.
[01:10:14]  Is his the subliminal or psychological intention to get people focused on the end result and to discourage us from having an engagement or an involvement with the act of getting there and what we're going through as we get go on this, you know, because he could have used the metaphor of a road or a path that would have involved much more engagement on the part of the public.
[01:10:43]  But the metaphor of building this bridge creates a separation.
[01:10:50]  Well, that's one interpretation of it.
[01:10:56]  In other words, Fortress America, sort of.
[01:11:01]  I don't know that that's what he intended for it to mean, but I understand how you could come to that conclusion.
[01:11:06]  You might want to give that some thought.
[01:11:07]  Maybe there's some other callers that have some ideas about that.
[01:11:10]  That and how drug use is up and crime is down.
[01:11:15]  That part I still don't have together because everybody tells me they are absolutely tied up together, so how can this be?
[01:11:21]  Yeah, and one other thing that really struck me was that isn't this the president who in his last State of the Union address promised us that the era of big government was already over?
[01:11:33]  Yes, and he still is saying that.
[01:11:37]  I think, though, it's just a sort of a play on words because the era of the big village is upon us.
[01:11:46]  Thank you very much for the call and have a good morning.
[01:11:48]  On the first time caller line, you're on the air.
[01:11:51]  Hi.
[01:11:51]  Hi.
[01:11:52]  I'm a little confused, and I was hoping you could help me out.
[01:11:56]  Well, I'm a little confused, too, so it'll be like the blind leading the blind, but I'll see what I can do.
[01:12:00]  Well, with President Clinton stating that crime was down and drug use was up.
[01:12:06]  I'm not going to be able to help you on this.
[01:12:08]  I can see I'm not.
[01:12:09]  My question is this.
[01:12:11]  If possession or use of drugs is illegal and to commit an illegal act is a crime, then how can you separate crime from crime?
[01:12:24]  Well, I knew I wouldn't be able to help you on this.
[01:12:27]  I have no idea.
[01:12:28]  I don't know.
[01:12:28]  If the two are connected, then I don't see how one can be up and the other down.
[01:12:34]  I don't see how crime can be up if crime is down myself.
[01:12:38]  Also, I wanted to ask if you have heard or anybody has heard what happened to the Freemen in Montana.
[01:12:47]  They were executed.
[01:12:52]  As far as I know, their trials are pending.
[01:12:56]  There will be continuing litigation and trials with regard to it.
[01:13:02]  Somebody had a story out saying why they were all set free and all charges were dropped, not true.
[01:13:09]  It's all quiet right now, but there's more court ahead for them.
[01:13:15]  Okay, well, thank you very much.
[01:13:17]  All right, take care.
[01:13:18]  East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
[01:13:20]  Hi.
[01:13:21]  Hi.
[01:13:22]  This is Scott from Madison.
[01:13:24]  Hi, Scott.
[01:13:25]  And you were talking about this thing with drugs being up and crime down and not understanding it.
[01:13:31]  Well, I can understand it perfectly because I've been doing drugs since I was 13, and I've never committed a crime.
[01:13:41]  Do you think you are the rule or the exception?
[01:13:44]  Well, I don't think I'm the rule, but I know a lot of other people that also do drugs.
[01:13:49]  Well, I had always heard figures like 60% or better, sometimes better, of the people that are in jail are in jail because of drug-related crimes.
[01:14:00]  Now, the president said specifically that even youth crime is down, but youth drug use is up.
[01:14:09]  So, to me, if that be true, then the connection that everybody says is absolute between crime and drugs can't be true.
[01:14:20]  I'm just confused.
[01:14:22]  Maybe it has something to do with a particular type of drugs.
[01:14:27]  Well, the use of crack in the last year is up 166%.
[01:14:35]  Heroin by slightly less.
[01:14:37]  And what age group?
[01:14:40]  Juvenile, juvenile age groups.
[01:14:42]  Wow.
[01:14:45]  Like wild man.
[01:14:46]  All right.
[01:14:47]  Thank you very much for the call.
[01:14:48]  That's true.
[01:14:49]  And so if what the president said is true, then I am confused.
[01:14:55]  First-time caller line, you're on the air.
[01:14:59]  Hello.
[01:15:00]  Going once.
[01:15:01]  Going twice.
[01:15:02]  Gone.
[01:15:03]  Wild card line, you're on the air.
[01:15:05]  Good morning.
[01:15:05]  How are you doing, Art?
[01:15:06]  I'm doing okay.
[01:15:07]  A couple quick comments and a question.
[01:15:08]  One, if the kid bought and used drugs, there's his crime right there.
[01:15:12]  Two, you won't be able to see the lunar eclipse on the west coast, that's just for the east coast, partially in the middle of the country.
[01:15:18]  Unfortunately, it'll be over by the time we get to see the moon.
[01:15:20]  So I'm not going to get to see it?
[01:15:21]  Nope, not this year.
[01:15:22]  Bummer.
[01:15:23]  And did Richard Hoglan, was he aware?
[01:15:26]  I tried to get through that night to make a comment that both of your remote viewer guests or interviews at that time had said something about something that attacked his probe that went out to Mars.
[01:15:36]  And did you bring that to Richard's attention?
[01:15:38]  I missed the first hour, or is he aware of it?
[01:15:40]  Does he got anything to say about that?
[01:15:42]  Oh, he's very aware of it, and we've talked about it in the past.
[01:15:44]  It's more than just a remote viewing thing, sir.
[01:15:47]  The Russians had data and a photograph of an object approaching their spacecraft before.
[01:15:55]  Oh, absolutely.
[01:15:56]  I mean, this is not remote-viewed fact, an established fact.
[01:16:00]  So Richard's going to count on these next probes that are going out, but apparently, if everything goes according to plan as far as remote viewing guests commented, they're not going to make it either.
[01:16:10]  Well, look, I guarantee you, if these three probes approach Mars and they have a catastrophic, unexplainable failure, then you're not going to be able to stop the talk.
[01:16:26]  That's true.
[01:16:26]  Well, hey, Art, you've got to slow down a little bit.
[01:16:29]  I'm losing all kinds of sleep trying to keep up with all this.
[01:16:32]  Me too.
[01:16:33]  It's great, though.
[01:16:33]  I'm glad to have you back.
[01:16:34]  And I guess we'll just find out what happens by the end of the year.
[01:16:37]  Good to be here.
[01:16:38]  Thank you very much.
[01:16:39]  We live in exciting times, and I, too, am very glad to be here for it all.
[01:16:44]  Very exciting times.
[01:16:46]  I have this feeling that soon there's going to be a major announcement.
[01:16:51]  West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
[01:16:53]  Hi, Art.
[01:16:53]  This is Andrew in Bakersfield.
[01:16:55]  Yes, sir.
[01:16:56]  And the other night, I think it was Tuesday night, you said that it was full moon, so anything could happen, and you were right.
[01:17:04]  That Tuesday night at 3 a.m., while I was listening to you, somebody broke into my house and tried to steal some of my stuff.
[01:17:10]  Really?
[01:17:11]  Yep, but managed to see the guys.
[01:17:15]  He was taken off and called the police, and they showed up, and I gave the idea on the guy, and they picked him up.
[01:17:21]  Cool.
[01:17:21]  So I've been sitting around.
[01:17:23]  I was sitting around on scared as hell on Tuesday night.
[01:17:27]  But Wednesday morning, woke up, decided I wasn't going to let him be scare me.
[01:17:31]  I wasn't going to change my habits.
[01:17:35]  I'm aware that it happens now, but I'm not going to let him make me change my life.
[01:17:39]  So I've been feeling pretty good.
[01:17:41]  Well, what did you do?
[01:17:42]  Did you sort of hang in the shadows and identify him and the vehicle he was in?
[01:17:48]  Or how did you, you know, how did you handle it?
[01:17:52]  Well, actually, at the beginning, I didn't know that my house had been broken into.
[01:17:59]  I live in an apartment complex.
[01:18:00]  My neighbor called me and said she thought someone was trying to get in her window.
[01:18:05]  So I went next door to check it out, make sure there's nobody in there.
[01:18:08]  And I said, okay, I'm going to close up all my windows, come back over, right?
[01:18:13]  So I come into my apartment, turn on the front room light, and I see my windows open, and my computer monitor is gone.
[01:18:20]  Oh, boy.
[01:18:20]  And so I run into the back, call the police.
[01:18:23]  Oh, and as I was coming over, I saw someone run past, like, out in front.
[01:18:29]  So I figured we scared him off.
[01:18:30]  So I called the police to let him know if there was a prowler and all that.
[01:18:34]  And as I walk out to wake up my roommate, I look over and the guy's sticking his head through the window again.
[01:18:41]  And I'm like, hey, he sort of looks at me and took off.
[01:18:44]  I went up, woke up my roommate.
[01:18:46]  About a minute later, the cop showed up.
[01:18:48]  And then, so I gave them my statement.
[01:18:51]  And after they're checking out the scene or whatever, one of them tells me that they've got somebody they want me to ID.
[01:18:58]  So they drive me over there in the back of the car.
[01:19:00]  And you ID'd the guy?
[01:19:02]  Yep.
[01:19:02]  And they caught him.
[01:19:03]  Yep.
[01:19:04]  Absolutely excellent, sir.
[01:19:05]  Thank you very much for the call.
[01:19:08]  A bridge to the 21st century.

=== Bridges Tonight (02:48) ===

[01:19:11]  Can it be done?
[01:19:12]  Or a bridge to the past, Bob Dole's bridge to the past, right back where we started from.
[01:19:18]  Trip back in time continued with Ark Bell hosting Coast to Coast AF.
[01:19:23]  More Somewhere in Time coming up.
[01:19:27]  ART Bells
[01:20:07]  are in time.
[01:20:08]  Tonight, featuring Coast to Coast AF from August 29th, 1996.
[01:20:13]  We're talking bridges tonight.
[01:20:15]  What kind of bridge is it the president was talking about?
[01:20:17]  That was the central theme of his speech, talking about a bridge to the 21st century.
[01:20:21]  Is it a bridge over troubled waters?
[01:20:25]  A bridge from democracy to socialism?
[01:20:29]  A bridge too far?
[01:20:31]  What kind of bridge exactly is it?
[01:20:35]  And will it be in good repair?
[01:20:36]  And will it hold up?
[01:20:38]  So many bridges these days are coming down.
[01:20:43]  We're talking about the president's speech.
[01:20:45]  He features a bridge to a land where children love each other instead of killing each other.
[01:20:53]  A bridge where children are not terrorized by violence home or at school.
[01:21:00]  Where they are not left to raise themselves, latch key style, where crime is a shocking exception and not the usual.
[01:21:11]  So we're talking about bridges.
[01:21:13]  Is it a bridge too far?
[01:21:15]  kind of bridges Here we go again.
[01:21:38]  Prepare thyself.
[01:21:39]  East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
[01:21:43]  Yes, a little follow-up on what Charlie was talking about a little while ago.

=== Republican Conventions Boost (03:42) ===

[01:21:48]  When you say Charlie, you mean Charlie that calls this show or Charlie that calls the show?
[01:21:54]  Not Morris.
[01:21:57]  Yeah, no, Charlie, that calls a show.
[01:21:59]  Here you, I have heard him a couple of times.
[01:22:02]  Anyway, so far.
[01:22:04]  About this, okay, I've been following conventions for about these political conventions for about 40 years now.
[01:22:12]  I do recall, oh, maybe three or four times in that time reading in publications like Newsweek and Time and so on that prostitutes, female prostitutes who work both Democratic and Republican conventions will tell you that their business is much better at the Republican conventions.
[01:22:33]  Well, I believe that.
[01:22:35]  For one thing, well, because Republicans generally have more disposable income.
[01:22:40]  Well, that's true.
[01:22:42]  No, I wouldn't.
[01:22:42]  I mean, you look, sir.
[01:22:45]  Sir, you look at the number of millionaires who are delegates in the Republican Party convention versus the Democrats, and right there are telling the story.
[01:22:56]  Okay, what do you think?
[01:22:57]  Do you think this should be a legitimate issue on this Morris thing?
[01:23:02]  Or is this kind of a grasp, last gasp, last grasp of a straw or whatever?
[01:23:10]  I don't think that it's going to tip the election one way or the other, if that's what you're asking.
[01:23:16]  I mean, I had people faxing me earlier in the day saying, this is it, Clinton's done, he's cooked, it's over, put a fork in him, he's done.
[01:23:23]  By the way, I'm not on the flight 800, but do you think the chance that this was released on the day Clinton was giving his speech percentage a chance that this was just accidental timing is about any better than that meteor hitting flight 800?
[01:23:40]  Yeah, about the same odds.
[01:23:41]  About the same odds.
[01:23:42]  I agree.
[01:23:44]  All right, okay, we'll see.
[01:23:45]  Take care, sure.
[01:23:46]  Oh, sure.
[01:23:48]  I have no illusions about that.
[01:23:50]  Look, this is hardball politics, you know.
[01:23:54]  The timing of the release of the story?
[01:23:57]  Sure.
[01:24:00]  How much doubt can there be about that?
[01:24:04]  Now, how damaging is it?
[01:24:09]  I don't know.
[01:24:13]  Damaging to Morris, that's for damn sure.
[01:24:15]  Damaging to Clinton, I don't know that that's so sure at all.
[01:24:19]  A little bit embarrassing, certainly embarrassing, bad timing for the president.
[01:24:23]  Not a coincidence.
[01:24:26]  Not crippling.
[01:24:28]  People are not going to vote for or against Clinton because of what Morris did.
[01:24:34]  I wonder more about the peripheral stuff, like whether she had any input into the speeches.
[01:24:40]  How much she was really told.
[01:24:45]  And we will find out about that because The Star apparently has a lot of information about specifics that hasn't come out yet, so we'll see.
[01:24:56]  And as far as Republicans engaging the services of prostitutes at conventions more than Democrats, I think that's true stat.
[01:25:06]  But as I said, only half in jest, Republicans have a lot more disposable income.

=== Men Of Power Have Exotic Interests (07:17) ===

[01:25:13]  And then there's one other thing, too.
[01:25:15]  Men of power tend to have exotic sexual proclivities.
[01:25:28]  And that goes for both parties.
[01:25:29]  I mean, I could recall the name Kennedy for you, and displeased as you may be by that, need I say more.
[01:25:38]  Men of power, men of power tend to have very exotic interests.
[01:25:45]  And I'll leave it at that.
[01:25:46]  First time caller line, you're on the air.
[01:25:48]  Hi.
[01:25:49]  Oh, hi, Art.
[01:25:50]  Hello.
[01:25:51]  Yeah, this is Forrest from Colin from Denver, Colorado.
[01:25:53]  Yes, sir.
[01:25:54]  K. Howe Country.
[01:25:55]  Oh, yeah, that's right.
[01:25:56]  I'm fairly new listener to you.
[01:25:59]  I've been with you for a couple months now, and I'm with you every night.
[01:26:01]  I really love the show.
[01:26:02]  Thank you.
[01:26:03]  I was wondering, I really want to get into ham radio.
[01:26:06]  Okay.
[01:26:06]  And I know nothing about it.
[01:26:08]  I was wondering if you could refer me to a good book, periodical, or source that I could find something.
[01:26:14]  I looked in the yellow pages under ham, under shortwave, nothing.
[01:26:18]  Okay.
[01:26:20]  There will be a multitude of ham clubs in Denver.
[01:26:24]  And rather than referring you to some book immediately, I recommend that you locate a ham club in Denver.
[01:26:31]  And I can tell you if no other way, what you can do is just go around and look for ham antennas.
[01:26:40]  I used to do that when I was a kid.
[01:26:43]  And go up and knock on a door and find out if that person's a ham.
[01:26:49]  And if they are, ask them to help you out.
[01:26:54]  I did that when I was, that's how I got into ham radio.
[01:26:57]  I used to drove my mother crazy.
[01:26:59]  Every time there'd be an antenna, I'd say, stop!
[01:27:03]  And I'd go knock on the door.
[01:27:05]  Now, failing that, there are other ways.
[01:27:08]  For example, I bet there's a ham store in Denver where they sell ham equipment.
[01:27:13]  Call them.
[01:27:13]  They'll tell you where the local clubs are, and you can get into it that way.
[01:27:18]  I would rather have you go to a club or a person than to try to get a book.
[01:27:22]  Okay.
[01:27:23]  And as far as your question goes, I'd rather go forward in time if I had a time machine.
[01:27:28]  Yeah, since we're talking about bridges and the Democrats have pinned the bridge to the past on Dole and the Bridge to the Future on Clinton, I started idly wondering if you could go forward or in reverse, but only one of the directions, which way you'd go.
[01:27:47]  Well, forward, but not with Clinton, because that's inherently backwards, I think.
[01:27:52]  All right.
[01:27:53]  Thank you very much for the call.
[01:27:54]  Well, look, I have concluded that Mr. Clinton is going to be re-elected.
[01:28:02]  I'm convinced of it.
[01:28:04]  It's not what I want, but it's what's going to happen.
[01:28:07]  Four more years of Bill Clinton.
[01:28:10]  Well, America will withstand it, in my opinion.
[01:28:15]  We'll live through it, and things will continue.
[01:28:20]  There would be minor differences between Clinton and Dole.
[01:28:26]  But either way, the nation will survive it.
[01:28:29]  Constitution and the Bill of Rights, mainly, will survive it.
[01:28:33]  I am convinced.
[01:28:34]  So it's not a terrible tragedy either way.
[01:28:39]  And frankly, the direction of America and where we go in the 21st century depends a lot more on the American people than it does the American president, whoever it might be.
[01:28:52]  Wildcard line, you're on the air.
[01:28:53]  Yes, Art.
[01:28:54]  I'd like to offer some thoughts on the Flight 800 investigation and seek your comment.
[01:28:58]  Yes, sir.
[01:28:59]  When faced with a disaster, you know, the first need is to find out what happened.
[01:29:02]  Of course.
[01:29:03]  We can't fix it until we know what's wrong.
[01:29:05]  That's right.
[01:29:06]  We're not sure of finding out what's wrong unless we consider every possibility.
[01:29:09]  Correct.
[01:29:10]  Now, in the case of the TLDA 800, despite their concealment, it's coming down to which kind of missile.
[01:29:16]  And the FBI and the NTSB are doing their best not to consider that.
[01:29:21]  Well, I don't know if that's fair.
[01:29:23]  They are considering that.
[01:29:24]  They say it's on the table along and equally with other items.
[01:29:29]  It seems to me mechanical failure is beginning to fade more than the other two options right now.
[01:29:36]  But notice the credence they gave to nitroglycerin from the rear of the cabinet, which hadn't exploded.
[01:29:40]  Yeah.
[01:29:41]  Now, the thing is, there was one little tiny bit of news about the 800 disaster in the news conference today.
[01:29:49]  They talked about PETN.
[01:29:52]  And they seemed to suggest the other day, you remember, they said, well, this airplane was used to carry troops.
[01:29:59]  And that seemed to try to explain why the PETN traces would have been found.
[01:30:05]  But as a matter of fact, troops do not carry ordnance or anything else when they travel.
[01:30:12]  They travel just the way you and I do.
[01:30:15]  They go through metal detectors and all the rest of it.
[01:30:17]  Right.
[01:30:18]  And the CNN website pointed out they completely renovated the plane after that.
[01:30:22]  Exactly.
[01:30:23]  Eater finding would be bad for the administration because if it's a foreign missile, then what has the administration done to make such enemies, and why won't it keep them out of the country?
[01:30:32]  If it's a military error, and that's then traceable to inadequate funding, what are they doing about that?
[01:30:39]  Well, if it turns out that our military did it and it's being covered up, then we're really in big trouble.
[01:30:48]  My name is Jeremy, and I've packed you some stuff.
[01:30:50]  I'm very strongly suspicious that it was an error, much like your guest that I talked about.
[01:30:56]  All right, sir, thank you.
[01:30:57]  If it turns out to be that, we're in big trouble.
[01:30:59]  I mean, that's a gigantic cover-up.
[01:31:01]  Gigantic.
[01:31:03]  So many people would have had to have been aware that there was a live firing of a missile in the vicinity of this aircraft.
[01:31:15]  I mean, you've got to sit down and think about it.
[01:31:17]  They would have to know the pilot, the people on the ground that cleared the firing, or if it was an accident, ditto.
[01:31:28]  So it would be a massive cover-up.
[01:31:31]  And if that was the case, then God help us, right?
[01:31:36]  If it was domestic violence, then God help us.
[01:31:43]  That's what I would say.
[01:31:46]  But I have been leaning toward a missile, whatever the source, more than other theories.
[01:31:52]  Just leaning toward.
[01:31:53]  I mean, I have no way of knowing until we really know.
[01:31:56]  Wildcard line, you're on the air.
[01:31:58]  Hi.
[01:31:59]  Hi, Art.
[01:32:00]  How are you doing?
[01:32:00]  I'm okay.
[01:32:01]  Where are you?
[01:32:01]  Jason in Perump.
[01:32:03]  Yes, sir.
[01:32:04]  Yeah, just calling to a lot of people welcome you back.
[01:32:06]  I wanted to welcome you home.
[01:32:07]  Oh, it's good to be here.
[01:32:08]  Yeah, I bet.
[01:32:09]  It's great to be here myself.
[01:32:11]  I was just kind of wondering if you felt it too or anybody else that lately on the quickening type stuff, you feel it's kind of real quiet?

=== The Quickenings Are Coming (04:17) ===

[01:32:20]  No.
[01:32:21]  No.
[01:32:22]  And if you listen to the president tonight, he was talking about many of those items that I call the quickening.
[01:32:30]  You know, the drug problem, the problem with our children and violence and all the rest of it, and talking about a future when it would not be, and trying to talk about erecting a bridge to get to that point.
[01:32:44]  Right.
[01:32:45]  I don't know.
[01:32:46]  I'm kind of up in the air about that.
[01:32:49]  I would say the quickening is less apparent where we live here in Perump.
[01:32:55]  But even here, fast food, big supermarkets, and all the rest of it is on the way.
[01:33:06]  Right, it's coming, you bet.
[01:33:08]  All right, thank you very much.
[01:33:10]  It all began with an innocent stoplight.
[01:33:14]  I mean, we didn't even have a stoplight in Perump.
[01:33:18]  Now, we're about the fastest building city in the country, or close.
[01:33:25]  Nevada is the fastest-growing state in the nation, and Perump has the highest growth rate in Nevada.
[01:33:37]  So if we are not the fastest-growing, we are close to it.
[01:33:42]  There's just construction going on everywhere.
[01:33:45]  Wildcard line, you're on the air.
[01:33:47]  Hi.
[01:33:47]  Hi.
[01:33:48]  Oh, wrong way on the radio.
[01:33:49]  Hi, Art.
[01:33:50]  This is Andy from Phoenix.
[01:33:52]  Yeah, I was listening to the president's speech about this bridge he's going to build to the village.
[01:33:56]  Right.
[01:33:57]  And I wonder how much it's going to cost.
[01:34:00]  Well, he claims that his bridge can be constructed with manipulation basically of the tax code, if you listen carefully.
[01:34:10]  In other words, using taxes as an instrument of social policy.
[01:34:14]  All I could think of what he was saying was, hey, you want to buy a bridge?
[01:34:18]  I've got a bridge for you.
[01:34:20]  Yeah, I kind of want to give an objective view of the whole convention.
[01:34:24]  Yes.
[01:34:25]  Simpson Ninnis, Lava Lamp Liberals, Racket Jaw Berveyars, a baked wind and monkey doodle.
[01:34:32]  Thank you.
[01:34:33]  You're welcome.
[01:34:34]  Well, I don't know.
[01:34:36]  I thought both conventions were pretty boring, if you want to know the truth.
[01:34:42]  Pretty boring.
[01:34:45]  Near as I can tell, I was out of the country, not sorry about it either, during the Republican convention.
[01:34:50]  It was pretty boring.
[01:34:52]  And until yesterday, the Democrats' convention was extraordinarily boring.
[01:34:59]  Then all of a sudden we got the story about Morris.
[01:35:06]  And it was, I'll tell you, it was like going out to Lake Mead and looking at all the and feeding the fish popcorn.
[01:35:17]  It was fun watching the media yesterday.
[01:35:19]  They got hold of the story on Morris and, oh, goody, finally we have something to talk about.
[01:35:25]  And oh, they talked it to death yesterday.
[01:35:30]  And they brought every Democrat operative they could find on television and said, well, this really is going to upstage the president's speech tonight, isn't it?
[01:35:41]  And all the Democrats were squirming, trying to figure out ways to say that it would not, would not affect the president, has nothing to do with the president.
[01:35:51]  It is a remarkable thing to consider, isn't it?
[01:35:54]  That, well, here, let me read you something that I just got on the subject.
[01:36:03]  Well, I can't read it if I can't find it.
[01:36:05]  Basically, it detailed some of the amazing things that this $200 per hour hooker was said to have been privy to, or alleged to have been privy to, some amazing things, even some secrets known only to seven people in the government, and, of course, this $200 per hour hooker.

=== Garage Demolition Mystery (06:14) ===

[01:36:34]  Even at that, though, if she had some real input into the First Lady's speech, or even the President's, then I would say she was grossly underpaid.
[01:36:46]  And they say it got pretty kinky, kinkier as it went.
[01:36:55]  Then she sold her story, it goes, to the star, reprinted then by the Post, and then, of course, Chris Smash.
[01:37:04]  Fascinating story, though, and it was fun watching the press handle it during the day.
[01:37:10]  They were happy as clams because all of a sudden they actually had a story to talk about.
[01:37:16]  And boy, did they ever.
[01:37:19]  East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
[01:37:21]  Hi.
[01:37:22]  Hi, Art.
[01:37:22]  It's Ron from Saskatoon.
[01:37:24]  Saskatoon, yes.
[01:37:26]  Saskatoon, yeah.
[01:37:27]  Did you know there was an accidental firing of a missile in Canada today?
[01:37:33]  No.
[01:37:34]  Okay.
[01:37:34]  You guys fired a missile?
[01:37:36]  Where?
[01:37:37]  On the coast of B.C. somewhere.
[01:37:40]  I think somewhere near Victoria.
[01:37:42]  It wasn't a big deal, but it's kind of important anyway.
[01:37:46]  It was fired from a Canadian naval ship.
[01:37:50]  Yes.
[01:37:51]  And it flew out three kilometers and banged into somebody's garage.
[01:38:00]  Wait a minute.
[01:38:01]  It hit somebody's garage?
[01:38:02]  That's right.
[01:38:03]  Yeah.
[01:38:04]  Now that, that would surprise you.
[01:38:07]  I mean, can you imagine sitting there in your living room and all of a sudden your garage is demolished by a missile?
[01:38:13]  Well, I'm not sure it was demolished.
[01:38:15]  You know, I don't think there was any warhead on this missile.
[01:38:17]  I know.
[01:38:18]  There was no explosion, but the garage was damaged.
[01:38:21]  Well, I imagine it would be.
[01:38:24]  It was the strangest thing, you know.
[01:38:26]  And I didn't catch all the details.
[01:38:27]  I was in another room when this thing was on, and I was just sort of really listening hard.
[01:38:32]  So I didn't see the photos, but it was on CTV News, the evening news, at 11 o'clock.
[01:38:38]  Did it show like a hole in the garage roof or what?
[01:38:40]  Well, it must have.
[01:38:41]  But like I say, I was in another room and I wasn't watching the set.
[01:38:45]  I was just listening to it, and I heard them talking about, they made sort of a joke about it.
[01:38:50]  They said that.
[01:38:51]  Well, yeah, a missile ruin your day every time.
[01:38:55]  They called it friendly fire, you know, kind of in an amusing tone, sort of.
[01:39:00]  I have not quite understood that phrase, friendly fire.
[01:39:05]  In other words, if you're on the business end of a missile, there's nothing friendly about it.
[01:39:11]  I know.
[01:39:11]  It's kind of a funny phrase, but it sort of makes sense, too.
[01:39:15]  It's not from the enemy, it's from your own forces.
[01:39:18]  Well, accidental fire, it'd be a better phrase.
[01:39:21]  Thank you very much, Saskatoon, huh?
[01:39:23]  A missile.
[01:39:24]  Can you imagine that?
[01:39:26]  Just sitting there watching the boring convention coverage when you hear this whistling sound.
[01:39:38]  Ba-boom.
[01:39:39]  There goes your garage.
[01:39:43]  And if things go as usual, you probably just bought a brand new car.
[01:39:49]  And you go out and there's a missile which has penetrated the roof of your garage and the roof of your brand new car, probably going right through the driver's seat or something.
[01:40:01]  Absolutely would ruin your day.
[01:40:04]  No, I have not heard that report.
[01:40:06]  That is very interesting that missiles can be loosed by accident by the military is an amazing thing to contemplate.
[01:40:15]  You would think there'd be enough checks that that simply couldn't happen.
[01:40:19]  I could imagine one going off, of course, but I mean, set loose accidentally, that's really something.
[01:40:24]  All right, we're going to break here at the bottom of the hour.
[01:40:26]  Who knows what comes next?
[01:40:28]  Open lines all night tonight.
[01:40:29]  You're listening to Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
[01:40:33]  Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from August 29th, 1996.
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[01:41:24]  Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
[01:41:27]  Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from August 29th, 1996.
[01:41:32]  How many of you know that this coming Sunday is Grandparents Day?
[01:41:38]  Actually, I didn't know that.
[01:41:41]  It is.
[01:41:42]  It's Grandparents' Day.
[01:41:45]  It'd be a good time to think about your grandparents, wouldn't it?
[01:42:08]  West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
[01:42:10]  Hi, Art.
[01:42:10]  This is Pete in Portland.
[01:42:12]  Hello, Pete.
[01:42:13]  Yes.
[01:42:14]  Hey, do you remember a couple of years ago, or last year, the U.S. Navy and the Turkish Navy were having a military exercise in the Mediterranean or the Bosporus, and one of our Sea Sparrow anti-aircraft missile launchers locked onto a Turkish ship, launched, and killed the captain and some of his crew.

=== Voted On Clinton Campaign (15:50) ===

[01:42:36]  I do recall the incident, yes, Pete.
[01:42:38]  That's what I've been thinking about.
[01:42:40]  Although, a massive cover-up, it would be so huge.
[01:42:43]  People in the Navy would be talking about it already, wouldn't it?
[01:42:47]  Well, Pete, that's the way I've been looking at it.
[01:42:49]  In other words, it certainly is a friendly fire, stupid phrase, incident is possible, but the cover-up required would be so massive, so criminal, so horrible that it's hard to imagine it could be done.
[01:43:03]  And for that reason, I've been hesitant.
[01:43:06]  However, we have seen other cover-ups, haven't we?
[01:43:09]  Yeah.
[01:43:11]  Good night, Art.
[01:43:12]  Good night, Pete.
[01:43:13]  Yeah, look, it's possible.
[01:43:15]  It's just not the first likely thing that I would have jumped for.
[01:43:22]  I think that 800 was brought down by a bomb or a missile.
[01:43:27]  That's likelihood.
[01:43:28]  I think it's more likely a missile.
[01:43:32]  But that's all speculation until they finally tell us what it really was.
[01:43:36]  And the more time that goes by, the more likely I think it is that we will never have a definitive answer.
[01:43:44]  And I hope I'm wrong.
[01:43:45]  Wildcard line, you're on the air.
[01:43:47]  Hi.
[01:43:48]  That's Charlie, liberal in California.
[01:43:51]  Hello.
[01:43:51]  Well, let me just say, actually, there was one poll out that.
[01:43:55]  Forget about the poll, who's winning the race.
[01:43:57]  You know, everybody knows that.
[01:43:58]  Forget about that poll.
[01:43:59]  There's one poll that I really loved that I saw on CNN today.
[01:44:03]  It showed that we were winning the race as far as who people thought held their closest, more closely held their moral views, and they were saying the Democratic Party.
[01:44:14]  Now, 15 years ago, a poll like that would have been absolutely impossible.
[01:44:20]  So what you're seeing, thanks to Bill Clinton, who is just a political genius, a political genius, is you're seeing the Democratic Party regain that ground that's so vital when it comes to winning presidential elections.
[01:44:34]  Don't you think there was a little glitch in the moral bridge yesterday?
[01:44:38]  Well, yeah, and I think, you know, I would have told Bill Clinton, do not hiccup with these Republicans.
[01:44:43]  You know, these Republicans just have this thing about hookers.
[01:44:46]  I remember reading an article a few years ago that said whenever there's a Republican convention, the hookers love it because they get a hell of a lot more money than Democratic conventions.
[01:44:57]  But the whole thing is this morality thing is a bunch of crap, all right?
[01:45:01]  Well, Morris, oh, Charles.
[01:45:05]  Morris, whose code name, by the way, was Charlie.
[01:45:08]  Did you know that?
[01:45:09]  Is that right?
[01:45:12]  No, let me finish my statement, Charlie.
[01:45:16]  Morris was no more of a Republican than apparently he was a Democrat.
[01:45:24]  What he actually was, according to the president, was the president's friend.
[01:45:29]  Well, I think the thing about it is that he did not look at, because he supported Democrats as much as he supported George McGovern.
[01:45:35]  I know he wasn't George McCarthy.
[01:45:36]  Well, wasn't there some.
[01:45:38]  There was some old saying about birds of a feather, and I can't quite recall what it was.
[01:45:44]  Oh, I absolutely agree with that.
[01:45:46]  Why do you think Bob Dole was one of the closest friends of Richard Nixon?
[01:45:50]  Matter of fact, he was still seeking advice to Richard Nixon from the day he died.
[01:45:54]  So it's absolutely true.
[01:45:55]  Birds of a feather do flock together, don't they?
[01:45:58]  Yes, they do.
[01:45:59]  And the flock that was running at the White House was Morris and Clinton.
[01:46:03]  Well, I think, well, you know something.
[01:46:05]  Let's face facts, okay?
[01:46:07]  Politicians.
[01:46:09]  Politicians, whether you're talking about Bob Dole or whether you're talking about Bill Clinton, have dirt in their closet, okay?
[01:46:15]  Neither guy is perfect.
[01:46:17]  And for the Republicans to sit there and say, you know what, Bob Dole is so perfect and he's so clean and he's next to God, well, that's a bunch of crap, okay?
[01:46:27]  Any intelligent person knows that, and the average American citizen knows that that's a bunch of crap.
[01:46:32]  I know that is.
[01:46:32]  Bob Dole is not perfect.
[01:46:34]  And period.
[01:46:36]  Now, if you want to have a discussion about morality, I think that Bob Dole is arguably more personally moral than is Bill Clinton.
[01:46:47]  No, I would disagree with that.
[01:46:48]  Bill Clinton is saying Bill Clinton has had one wife.
[01:46:50]  He has kept his family together.
[01:46:52]  Is that true with Bob Dole?
[01:46:53]  No.
[01:46:54]  Has Bob Dole ever fooled around on his wife?
[01:46:57]  All I can say is that it's funny how he kicked his wife and kid out of the house.
[01:47:00]  Well, you have absolutely no evidence, no evidence that Bob Dole has had a series of.
[01:47:07]  There certainly is evidence that he's the fact that he kicked his wife and kid out of the house.
[01:47:11]  And not only that, his ex-wife was fighting him for money while he was paying Elizabeth Dole all this extra money for being his secretary.
[01:47:20]  That's kind of funny how that was going on.
[01:47:22]  But I think for you to say that, you know, we don't know how moral Bob Dole is because we don't sleep with him.
[01:47:27]  That's period.
[01:47:28]  And so for us to get into that is absolutely ridiculous.
[01:47:31]  But the thing is...
[01:47:31]  What do you mean we, Tonto?
[01:47:33]  I may speak for yourself, Charles.
[01:47:37]  Now, I don't know what you do in your spare time.
[01:47:40]  Well, I mean, for all I know.
[01:47:42]  Men, I don't particularly like men.
[01:47:44]  Elderly men, I definitely don't like.
[01:47:46]  Let me just say.
[01:47:47]  Do you like young men, Charles?
[01:47:48]  Yeah, you little.
[01:47:50]  Let me just say that the bottom line is this.
[01:47:53]  The only thing that really counts is policy.
[01:47:56]  And people realize that we support the average American, the working class, and you guys don't.
[01:48:02]  And that's what it's going to come down to, not this morality crap.
[01:48:05]  All right, Charlie, thank you.
[01:48:07]  Yeah, did anybody note that?
[01:48:09]  That the code word for Mr. Morris when he was helping his friend early on was Charlie.
[01:48:18]  Certainly got my attention earlier.
[01:48:21]  I wonder how they picked  ⁇ how do you think they picked that code name?
[01:48:24]  Charlie.
[01:48:27]  Think somebody there was listening to the program?
[01:48:31]  Oh, I'd say it's entirely possible.
[01:48:34]  Charlie would have been a superb code name for Morris.
[01:48:39]  Absolutely right on the money.
[01:48:42]  And I just, I can't imagine see Charlie.
[01:48:47]  I suppose it could have been plucked from the Vietnam era, but I wouldn't think so, not with the White House attitude probably.
[01:48:54]  So I can only imagine the code word Charlie came from somebody who must have been listening here.
[01:48:59]  West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
[01:49:01]  Hi.
[01:49:01]  Well, hello, Art.
[01:49:03]  This is Scott from Graham, Washington.
[01:49:05]  And I'm going to tell you why Clinton is going to get in.
[01:49:08]  Okay.
[01:49:09]  I'm going to tell you why, because people nowadays love scandal.
[01:49:13]  They love to read about it.
[01:49:15]  They love every part of it.
[01:49:17]  And once we get Clinton in there, everybody's going to be happy because they won't have to bother about going out and buying all the rag magazines.
[01:49:23]  We'll have the scandal in the White House constantly.
[01:49:26]  In other words, they're afraid that if Bob Dole gets in there, there will be no scandal.
[01:49:32]  It'll be a quiet, boring four years.
[01:49:34]  But if we re-elect Clinton, there will be constant sex scandals and who knows what all over the next four years.
[01:49:43]  And the press loves it.
[01:49:45]  Well, you know, you're really right.
[01:49:47]  And yesterday's press coverage proves it.
[01:49:50]  Because it's like even the press was bored with the convention until yesterday.
[01:49:55]  And, man, when this scandal broke, they all lit up their faces lit up.
[01:50:00]  It's like, God, we've got something finally.
[01:50:03]  Man, this is going to be fun.
[01:50:05]  And they got every Democrat operative they could in there and beat him over the head with it and watched what happened just for the fun of it.
[01:50:11]  It's like bloodsport.
[01:50:12]  That's it, exactly.
[01:50:13]  And Clinton, you know, another thing about him, too, he's like a used car salesman.
[01:50:17]  You put a herb tarley suit on him.
[01:50:19]  He'll sell you the Hugo, but the Hugo won't make it over the bridge.
[01:50:25]  Yeah, a bridge too far for a Hugo.
[01:50:27]  All right.
[01:50:27]  Thank you very much for the call.
[01:50:29]  Have a good morning.
[01:50:32]  Maybe he's got something there.
[01:50:34]  Maybe Americans, even more than the Brits, love their scandals.
[01:50:39]  Yes, sir.
[01:50:41]  If you want another scandal-ridden four years, vote for Bill Clinton.
[01:50:46]  First time caller line, you're on the air.
[01:50:48]  Hi.
[01:50:49]  All right, Art Bell?
[01:50:50]  Yes, sir.
[01:50:50]  This is Mark from San Antonio.
[01:50:53]  Hi, Mark.
[01:50:54]  I just wanted to paint a little picture for you here.
[01:50:56]  Okay.
[01:50:56]  Okay, you're talking about President Clinton eminently getting elected and we're actually surviving that.
[01:51:04]  Yeah, we will.
[01:51:05]  Okay, picture, let's say.
[01:51:08]  Can you remember, I guess it was late 40s or 50s, they showed that bridge wagon in that hurricane's wind.
[01:51:16]  The what?
[01:51:17]  I don't know.
[01:51:17]  I guess it was a Golden Gate Bridge or something like that.
[01:51:20]  There's an old black and white film of the bridge kind of waving in the wind of a hurricane.
[01:51:25]  Oh, I think I've seen it, yes.
[01:51:28]  Well, it didn't break, but it sure to get stressed out, didn't it?
[01:51:31]  Yeah.
[01:51:32]  One more thing.
[01:51:34]  Evidently, Morris is not that finicky of an eater.
[01:51:40]  Well, I don't know about his culinary habits, sir.
[01:51:44]  I'll try and rise above the innuendo.
[01:51:52]  I do say, though, that if she managed to actually account for any of the content of the First Lady's speech or the president, and you know that's possible.
[01:52:02]  I mean, from what I hear, the allegations are Morris actually let her get on the phone, listen to his conversations with the president, made her let her be privy to lots of inside information.
[01:52:15]  I wonder if she planned all along.
[01:52:19]  I mean, she kept a diary of all this, right?
[01:52:22]  Planned all along, you know, knew that she was hanging on to a gold mine there and figured she'd sell her story at the right time.
[01:52:33]  She did document it, right?
[01:52:38]  So I wonder if she was like encouraging him in bed.
[01:52:46]  Tell me more, Mr. Morris.
[01:52:48]  Tell me more.
[01:52:49]  It makes me hot.
[01:52:52]  Tell me more.
[01:52:55]  He just spilled his guts.
[01:53:02]  Want to really have a good time tonight?
[01:53:04]  Call the president.
[01:53:04]  Let me listen in.
[01:53:08]  Pretty seedy stuff, huh?
[01:53:12]  But I'll tell you, boy, the press glommed on all this yesterday.
[01:53:16]  It was the only thing they talked about yesterday.
[01:53:19]  It was amazing.
[01:53:21]  East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
[01:53:22]  Hi.
[01:53:23]  Whoops, what a bin.
[01:53:24]  Wildcard line, you're on the air top of the morning.
[01:53:26]  Art Bell.
[01:53:27]  Yes.
[01:53:28]  This is Mike from Los Angeles.
[01:53:30]  Well, hi, Mike.
[01:53:31]  Glad I've been trying to get through for about four days.
[01:53:34]  Well, you're through.
[01:53:35]  I got a scoop for you.
[01:53:36]  Good.
[01:53:36]  I heard on a radio show here, tell me what you think of this.
[01:53:42]  There was a guy who's been working for TWA for 30 years.
[01:53:48]  And what he told someone on a local station here.
[01:53:51]  Ray Green.
[01:53:52]  No, no, it was actually an entertainment show.
[01:53:55]  It wasn't really that type of program at all.
[01:53:58]  But the next day, the guy was called.
[01:54:00]  The CEO was called to Washington after the crash of 800.
[01:54:07]  Oh, you mean the CEO of TWA?
[01:54:09]  Yeah.
[01:54:09]  I broke that four days ago, sir.
[01:54:11]  Okay.
[01:54:12]  I hate to break your breaking story, but I had that on TWA Stationery four days ago from an employee.
[01:54:18]  So that's it originated here, and you're hearing about it elsewhere.
[01:54:21]  Right.
[01:54:21]  Well, she knew personally this gentleman.
[01:54:24]  And he basically, his quote was, was that they're going to have to eat it.
[01:54:29]  Well, that remains to be seen.
[01:54:32]  I think that's also not going to be a culinary possibility for anybody.
[01:54:38]  Nobody's going to be able to eat this.
[01:54:42]  Okay.
[01:54:42]  No way.
[01:54:44]  If this is a cover-up and it leaks, which it inevitably will, it's going to be utterly inedible, believe me.
[01:54:53]  Good morning.
[01:54:53]  You're on the Air Coast Coast A.M. with Art Bell.
[01:54:56]  Where are you calling from, please?
[01:54:58]  Seattle, Washington.
[01:54:59]  Seattle, Washington?
[01:55:02]  All right.
[01:55:03]  Your radio is on, isn't it?
[01:55:05]  Yes, it is.
[01:55:06]  Turn it off.
[01:55:07]  Turn that sucker off.
[01:55:09]  Okay.
[01:55:09]  Those are the rules.
[01:55:10]  Get that radio off.
[01:55:11]  Not down, but off.
[01:55:13]  Call us toll-free at 1-800-618-8255.
[01:55:19]  Now, see, you're going to blow it right away.
[01:55:21]  You're not allowed to use your last name on.
[01:55:23]  Oh, okay.
[01:55:23]  My name's Edwin, then.
[01:55:25]  Edwin.
[01:55:25]  All right.
[01:55:26]  We'll call you just Edwin.
[01:55:27]  That's good.
[01:55:29]  And I used to be out of rent, and now I'm living in the wonderful Emerald City.
[01:55:33]  I see.
[01:55:35]  And I guess this is my first time through because in a while, as far as I can tell, Como and KVR are both running and up tonight.
[01:55:47]  They were doing what?
[01:55:49]  They're not having any technical difficulties or anything, because I remember last time I called, they were having technical difficulties.
[01:55:55]  What's on your mind, Edwin?
[01:55:58]  I guess our tax money is being spent on the Clinton campaign train.
[01:56:07]  Well, I believe the Clinton campaign train was paid for with the Clinton campaign funds, which are very healthy.
[01:56:15]  Well, to some degree, it's your tax dollars, but Bob Dole also will use some of your tax dollars.
[01:56:21]  Okay.
[01:56:21]  Matching funds.
[01:56:23]  All right.
[01:56:24]  So you could think of half of the train being run with your tax dollars.
[01:56:28]  Yeah, and as I get Leonard from South Dakota to speak up, I'd like to bring up the subject of Amtrak not serving South Dakota.
[01:56:36]  All right.
[01:56:37]  Well, we'll see if he has something to say about that.
[01:56:39]  East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
[01:56:40]  Good morning.
[01:56:41]  Hey, Art.
[01:56:43]  What's going to happen to space exploration under Bob Dole?
[01:56:47]  He voted against the funds to go to the moon, even.
[01:56:51]  He voted against what?
[01:56:52]  He voted against the funds to go to the moon in the 1960s.
[01:56:57]  He voted against that program.
[01:57:00]  And according to your remote viewer, our atmosphere is going to be shot in 2012.
[01:57:06]  Bob Dole voted against the Clean Air Act.
[01:57:10]  Was 2012 not soon enough?
[01:57:14]  Wanted to give it a shot a little earlier?
[01:57:16]  He voted against the Peace Corps in the 1960s.
[01:57:21]  He voted against AmeriCorps.
[01:57:26]  AmeriCorps.
[01:57:27]  AmeriCorps, you know.
[01:57:29]  I know.
[01:57:30]  So what is it Bob Dole's for?
[01:57:33]  Miracle ears for everyone?
[01:57:34]  Well, according to you, the end of the world.
[01:57:37]  Looks that way, huh?
[01:57:38]  Or at least not to find out what's on Other Worlds.
[01:57:41]  Mm-hmm.
[01:57:42]  And you think that if President Clinton is re-elected, which is a probability I would say now, that we will go to the stars and our air will clear up and our rivers will clear up and all our problems will go away?
[01:57:57]  No, I don't think all our problems are going to go away in four years, but you know what?
[01:58:02]  If it wasn't for the Reagan-Bush deficit, we would have a surplus right now.
[01:58:09]  Well, you know, if it wasn't for the Reagan military build-up, you might not even have a country right now.

=== They Did That Not Because We Were Weak (03:35) ===

[01:58:17]  Or had you considered that one?
[01:58:20]  That the Soviet Union had a choice.
[01:58:25]  They had a very large nuclear arsenal, and they had a choice.
[01:58:30]  They were stymied.
[01:58:32]  They either had to continue to expand and take from others or say, gee, communism doesn't seem to work.
[01:58:42]  We can't fire our nukes because it'll be the end of the world.
[01:58:46]  So what do we do?
[01:58:50]  And because of the military strength of this country at that time, they made the choice that resulted in the beginning, the dissolution of communism, the freeing of so many Eastern bloc nations.
[01:59:05]  That's what they did.
[01:59:06]  They did that not because we were weak.
[01:59:09]  They did that because we were strong.
[01:59:13]  West of the Rockies, you're on the air, hi.
[01:59:15]  Yes, hello, Mr. Bell.
[01:59:17]  Hello?
[01:59:18]  Yes, I have to take issue with your little trip over to the Communist Soviet Union if you really believe so much that our country had to fight for so long to put them down.
[01:59:30]  And why are you over there building up the communists and helping them re-establish their evil empire by what you told me, giving away valuable secrets to them and having your little shell, little Charlie, call in and say the things that you're afraid to say because you know that you will lose credibility because all these years, while the winds are shifting, you play like you're conservative and then the winds shift and now you're going to be a little liberal.
[01:59:55]  Well, which is it, mister?
[01:59:57]  What secrets do you think I gave them?
[01:59:59]  sensitive radio production secrets regarding harps because you have your your insiders who send you those those medals and and such and the fact that you would insinuate that there is life on other worlds is simply an act of trying to degrade the god-given status of the most sacred beings in the universe by saying that we are not unique that we have no wait a minute wait a minute It was NASA that said there was life on Mars.
[02:00:26]  That's right, and they're being controlled by forces from within the Soviet Union where I feel have gone back to get your orders from the Kremlin.
[02:00:36]  You are basically just, the way you try to tear down Mr. Bob Dole and to say that he cannot win against this liberal that is in our White House, who is basically a communist, you can't believe it.
[02:00:49]  You can't even imagine what they told me on the crowd.
[02:00:52]  See now, you are going to speak to me in a rational way because every time I sit down and make you look a fool every time.
[02:01:00]  I have secrets that you can't imagine in your worst nightmare.
[02:01:04]  You have to resort to that because you are afraid.
[02:01:07]  My arguments are like razors.
[02:01:10]  They cut your arguments apart.
[02:01:12]  Slither me.
[02:01:13]  You can't match me intellectually, so you have to play around with radio toys and sell our secrets to the commies.
[02:01:23]  If you like so much over there, why don't you just stay?
[02:01:26]  Well, I thought about it.
[02:01:28]  That's it.
[02:01:29]  That's it.

=== Main Fuel Tank Theory (10:29) ===

[02:01:30]  We gotta go.
[02:01:31]  Too bad.
[02:01:32]  I would have enjoyed spending more time with the guy who thinks I'm the devil's toe jam.
[02:01:37]  This is Premier Network.
[02:01:39]  That was Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM on this Somewhere in Time.
[02:02:32]  Beam Year Networks presents Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
[02:02:36]  Tonight, featuring Coast to Coast AM from August 29th, 1996.
[02:02:40]  I once knew a girl named Bright who used to travel at the speed of light.
[02:02:45]  She went out one day in a relative way and returned the previous night.
[02:03:28]  You want more?
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[02:03:36]  Oh, my love.
[02:03:38]  Jump in.
[02:03:41]  Tell me all the secrets of the village deck.
[02:03:44]  I want to know.
[02:03:45]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[02:03:49]  I know my heart.
[02:03:54]  Ah, the Pointer Sisters.
[02:03:58]  It is exciting, isn't it?
[02:04:01]  Both ways.
[02:04:07]  Anyway, they are good.
[02:04:09]  Good girls.
[02:04:12]  I'm Art Bell, and this is Coast to Coast AM.
[02:04:15]  On the first time, caller line, you're on the air.
[02:04:17]  Hello.
[02:04:18]  Hey, Art, how you doing?
[02:04:19]  I'm doing fine.
[02:04:20]  Hey, my sister lives in San Francisco.
[02:04:21]  How are you doing over there in the city by the bay in the ratings?
[02:04:25]  Uh-oh, very well.
[02:04:27]  Up many, many, many percentage.
[02:04:29]  Well, up like I'd have to look it up like 45% or something like that from the last survey.
[02:04:35]  Is that right?
[02:04:36]  That's great because I know there's a station over there that the other station 810, I think it is, but they always claim that they're the number one station.
[02:04:43]  Well, now, understand this.
[02:04:45]  You're talking about KGO.
[02:04:47]  Yeah, right.
[02:04:47]  And KGO also owns KSFO, which is the station I'm on.
[02:04:54]  So some interesting things have occurred.
[02:04:57]  For example, Dreamland, which is on KSFO, for the first time in all of known history, beat KGO in the ratings.
[02:05:08]  Is that right?
[02:05:09]  That is right.
[02:05:09]  Yes.
[02:05:09]  Wow.
[02:05:10]  It is the most listened-to radio program in the Bay Area, period.
[02:05:14]  All right.
[02:05:15]  Sounds great.
[02:05:15]  Hey, Art, by the way, I did get your book, and it is fantastic.
[02:05:19]  I just wanted to stress to everybody out there, if you're a really fan of the show, to get it.
[02:05:23]  It's fantastic.
[02:05:24]  It is a cool book, and I haven't advertised it in a long time.
[02:05:26]  I've got a neat fact here.
[02:05:28]  Dear Art, on a visit to the library in May, I gave the reference desk your 800 number and suggested they order the Art of Talk.
[02:05:37]  Well, I never thought they would.
[02:05:38]  About every 10 days, I'd check the card catalog to see if there was a listing and nothing.
[02:05:42]  Well, now, guess what?
[02:05:44]  They got it.
[02:05:44]  It's listed.
[02:05:45]  And 16 other people have beaten me to reserving it.
[02:05:49]  That's Mike in Minnesota.
[02:05:52]  Art, just keep on doing the great work, okay?
[02:05:54]  Thank you.
[02:05:54]  Bye-bye.
[02:05:55]  Take care.
[02:05:56]  That is true.
[02:05:57]  That's a true story.
[02:05:59]  Well, all right.
[02:06:03]  This is interesting.
[02:06:04]  Art, the Associated Press reported the central fuel tank was almost empty.
[02:06:08]  You know, I don't understand that either.
[02:06:10]  Somebody else is going to have to explain that to me.
[02:06:11]  I would think that taking a transatlantic flight, you wouldn't have the central fuel tank empty, but they did.
[02:06:18]  The report stated the fuel tank was more dangerous in that condition because more fumes would reside in the fuel system.
[02:06:26]  It increased the possibility that the central fuel tank did explode, but what exploded first and where?
[02:06:32]  They pinpointed the center of the blast at the back row 23, row 24, still missing.
[02:06:38]  Also, microscopic traces of the plastic exposive, I guess, plastique, PETN reside in some pharmaceutical drugs.
[02:06:49]  You have a point.
[02:06:53]  It's just a theory.
[02:06:54]  That's from David.
[02:06:55]  I appreciate that, David, very much.
[02:06:57]  But that's all it is at this point.
[02:06:59]  It is a theory and one from a talk show host at that who knows very little about airplanes.
[02:07:05]  We'll be right back.
[02:07:26]  East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
[02:07:28]  Hello.
[02:07:28]  Hi, Ark.
[02:07:29]  David.
[02:07:30]  David, are you using a tin can for a phone?
[02:07:33]  I can't hear you.
[02:07:35]  Okay, I was in the other room on Cordless.
[02:07:37]  I can get to the good phone if you got it.
[02:07:39]  Okay, but would you please go to a good phone?
[02:07:44]  We'll hold on while you do that, because that just is not...
[02:07:47]  I wouldn't even classify that as a telephone, frankly.
[02:07:49]  How's that?
[02:07:50]  Oh, man.
[02:07:51]  Oh, man.
[02:07:52]  What a difference.
[02:07:54]  I think you probably got a phone to sell me.
[02:07:56]  I think we do.
[02:07:57]  You need, boy, do you need a good part.
[02:07:59]  I'll tell you, take that thing and throw it away.
[02:08:02]  That's not a telephone.
[02:08:04]  That's hardly even a tin can with a wire.
[02:08:06]  Okay.
[02:08:07]  I'll lose the phone.
[02:08:08]  All right.
[02:08:09]  Heard something on Shortwave today coming out of Canada concerning Flight 800 that I guess was in the London Times or London Sun, whichever paper that they have.
[02:08:22]  But they seem to think that there's, I guess, a story going around in local Canada news about a Stinger missile that was smuggled in through Canada that might have been used.
[02:08:32]  And they were trying to connect it with Islam or that kind of a faction.
[02:08:40]  Well, it's one theory.
[02:08:43]  I don't know.
[02:08:44]  What do you think of my theory?
[02:08:45]  I mean, they're coming up dry pretty much, except for trace PETN, which would be used in explosive.
[02:08:52]  Otherwise, they're coming up dry.
[02:08:54]  And why wouldn't it be possible to put a small detonation-type device only into a fuel tank?
[02:09:02]  I think that's a real good theory.
[02:09:03]  The only thing I would say about it would be the same thing that you said.
[02:09:06]  What about the two military guys that should know what a missile looks like rising to the plane?
[02:09:11]  Absolutely.
[02:09:12]  But other than that, I think.
[02:09:13]  But if a missile hit the plane, there should arguably be, even if it was a radar missile that went to the center, there should be more evidence, or we better get some evidence as they bring up more of the main fuel tank of an impact, and the metallurgists should be able to tell us that.
[02:09:33]  You're right, and they haven't found any parts of the missile or any parts of an explosive that would be a greater amount than would be used in just a detonator, like you said.
[02:09:42]  On the PETN trace, I guess that was just a very small trace amount.
[02:09:46]  And you had said earlier that they don't carry ordnance on the planes, which is true.
[02:09:50]  But I guess if they were handling PETN and maybe stepped on some debt cord or something, they might have tracked it into the carpet.
[02:09:55]  But I like your theory.
[02:09:57]  I'm going to think about that a little bit more because that's about the best I've heard.
[02:10:01]  Really?
[02:10:02]  You know, I just fished that one out of nowhere just because I'm beginning to get puzzled at the fact that there's no evidence of an impact or a large detonation within other than the main fuel tank blowing up.
[02:10:15]  So why not imagine that it was the main fuel tank that blew up and that something rather small wouldn't take much to detonate it, would it?
[02:10:24]  No, I would think just spark would be probably enough.
[02:10:27]  And if you have something as large as a number six or number eight blasting cap or whatever the military would use, that ought to do it.
[02:10:35]  Other than trying to reconcile it with the eyewitness accounts, I think it's a darn good theory.
[02:10:39]  I appreciate your call, sir.
[02:10:40]  Thank you.
[02:10:41]  What I would like to do is hear from somebody in aviation about my theory.
[02:10:48]  It's just one more to pile on to the piles that are out there already.
[02:10:53]  And it's sort of a theory of desperation because they haven't found anything, they say.
[02:11:00]  I mean, if it was a missile, and entirely possible it was a missile, there should be impact evidence.
[02:11:06]  Much more impact evidence.
[02:11:10]  And with a warhead ranging from five pounds on up, there should be plenty of explosive residue evidence as well other than trace PETN or even trace nitroglycerin.
[02:11:25]  So this is your non-expert theory.
[02:11:28]  This is your talk show host theory.
[02:11:30]  First time caller line, you're on the air.
[02:11:32]  Hello.
[02:11:33]  Yes, sir.
[02:11:34]  Good morning to you.
[02:11:35]  I thought it very interesting that Charlie Liberal called in on the first time color line.
[02:11:39]  No, he didn't.
[02:11:40]  Yes, he did?
[02:11:41]  No, he didn't.
[02:11:42]  Well, you said he was on the first time caller line.

=== Self-Awareness and Responsibility (09:29) ===

[02:11:44]  Wild card line.
[02:11:46]  Okay.
[02:11:46]  Well, I thought you said first time color line.
[02:11:48]  No, sir.
[02:11:49]  I would never let him do that.
[02:11:52]  It tears down at least.
[02:11:53]  That would be an absolute rape of all that is just and right in the world.
[02:11:58]  I thought maybe you'd slip up there.
[02:11:59]  Listen, the other night, a few nights ago, you delivered, you probably didn't even know you did it, a soliloquy against drug abuse by our young people that was just beautiful, Art.
[02:12:09]  I did.
[02:12:10]  You really did.
[02:12:11]  Oh, yes.
[02:12:12]  Well, no, I know what I said.
[02:12:14]  I remember what I said.
[02:12:15]  You're talking about the sort of lack of any genetic memory about what drugs do, sure.
[02:12:21]  Exactly.
[02:12:22]  And you play a little song before some of the breaks by T-Rex, that bang-a-gong.
[02:12:27]  Oh, yes.
[02:12:28]  And when I was going to college, we used to sing it Gang of Bong, you know.
[02:12:32]  And I know nothing about what the kids are listening to today.
[02:12:37]  But I also wonder if that type of thing, because I remember when I was in college, it was a big peer thing, you know.
[02:12:44]  The media, the rock bands were doing it.
[02:12:49]  You know, it was cool to be on drugs, you know, that sort of thing.
[02:12:51]  Yep.
[02:12:52]  And I'm just wondering if that's influencing our kids today, too.
[02:13:00]  You don't know.
[02:13:01]  I guess the media was part of it, still is today.
[02:13:04]  But I think the big factor, again, is that people have forgotten the negative effects of drugs.
[02:13:09]  Exactly.
[02:13:10]  So I guess, you know, some things have to be learned and relearned and forgotten and relearned.
[02:13:17]  And it's an endless cycle.
[02:13:19]  Right.
[02:13:19]  But I find it interesting that the president is so big on how he's reduced crime, and yet the drug thing just keeps getting worse and worse and worse.
[02:13:29]  It's even more of a puzzle than that to me because everybody has been telling me, pounding it into me, that drugs and crime are absolutely going hand in hand.
[02:13:41]  And so then how can drug use be going way up and crime be going down?
[02:13:46]  It is a puzzle.
[02:13:46]  I think they're massaging the figures there a little bit.
[02:13:51]  What?
[02:13:51]  This administration massaging the figures, sir?
[02:13:55]  Well, I wouldn't put it down.
[02:13:56]  What a cruel allegation.
[02:13:58]  Listen, I need to tell you something.
[02:14:01]  I have been watching late-night TV for years and years until you came on the air on day a them in Sedona, Arizona.
[02:14:09]  Oh, that's right.
[02:14:10]  We're on in Sedona, aren't we?
[02:14:11]  Oh, yes.
[02:14:12]  And I have found something ten times better than anything they can put on the two prevention program.
[02:14:17]  You are just fantastic.
[02:14:18]  Thank you.
[02:14:18]  I appreciate that.
[02:14:19]  All right, keep it up.
[02:14:20]  Take care of the outlook.
[02:14:21]  We're on in Sedona.
[02:14:22]  Sedona, Arizona.
[02:14:25]  Home of the Hummers.
[02:14:27]  It's where people go.
[02:14:28]  It's a very mystical place.
[02:14:30]  Sedona.
[02:14:33]  I've been meaning to solicit calls from Sedona.
[02:14:36]  And I'm glad he made it through and reminded me that we're on in Sedona.
[02:14:41]  We're going on at a bunch of new stations.
[02:14:43]  I've got a bunch of new affiliates to be announcing next week.
[02:14:47]  You know, I try, again, I try not to think a lot about that because when I think about new radio stations, it makes me nervous.
[02:14:53]  You know, it's better not to think about a lot of people out there.
[02:14:55]  It makes you nervous.
[02:14:57]  Or it does me anyway.
[02:14:58]  Western the Rockies, you're on the air.
[02:15:00]  Hello.
[02:15:02]  Hello, hello.
[02:15:02]  Hello.
[02:15:03]  Okay, I forgot about that momentary delay.
[02:15:06]  Well, I suppose I'm addled somewhat by the lack of sleep generated by the frequency of listening to your show ever since I discovered you.
[02:15:14]  Well, that's very kind.
[02:15:17]  I always feel like I should apologize for that.
[02:15:19]  Do you work during the day?
[02:15:21]  Actually, I work at night.
[02:15:22]  I'm a musician.
[02:15:23]  Oh, I've probably completely discredited what I'm about to say.
[02:15:28]  And what I'm about to say is on the topic of drugs and on the more general topic of the fact that any time you make anything illegal, doing that thing becomes a crime by virtue of the fact that it's illegal.
[02:15:41]  And I'm a person who has smoked marijuana for 20 years.
[02:15:45]  And although that is the crime that I commit, I commit no other crimes.
[02:15:50]  And I haven't suffered any deterioration of my general principles, other than I suppose I've got a healthy disregard for some of the things the government tells me.
[02:16:02]  Well, we have further observation.
[02:16:05]  I live in Sacramento, California, by the way.
[02:16:06]  We have only your word on all of this now.
[02:16:09]  Well, this is true.
[02:16:09]  This is all anecdotal, of course.
[02:16:12]  But in my own experience, and in the experience I was a small-town boy before I moved to this city, but my experience here is that the drug-related crime is principally generated by those who are fighting over the money in the turf.
[02:16:25]  And it's not generally the people who are using the drug, name the drug, anything from crack cocaine on down.
[02:16:32]  Those people are generally more interested in just getting and consuming their drug.
[02:16:39]  The problem is, is that when you have to pay for those drugs, you know, the ridiculous black market prices that you end up stealing someone's television set or their VCR in order to fund your activity.
[02:16:53]  You do sound remarkably articulate.
[02:16:55]  And you say you've been doing pot for 20 years, huh?
[02:16:58]  Yes.
[02:16:58]  The only thing that you can't know, though, is as articulate as you are now, maybe if you had not been doing pot for the last 20 years, you might be our president.
[02:17:09]  Or you might be the guy who figures out cold fusion, would have figured out cold fusion.
[02:17:14]  In other words, how much further might you have gone?
[02:17:16]  You have no way of knowing.
[02:17:18]  Well, I understand, and that's a different end of the argument, I think.
[02:17:21]  You know, our personal responsibility, I think that's the basic problem that we have in this country, is that we're not taught personal responsibility, and that's something that I suppose our big brother government has to take some credit for.
[02:17:32]  But I think everything we see in society is a manifestation of some part of human nature that would exist regardless of who's in the White House and even regardless of our basic system of government.
[02:17:45]  And I think that the more that we teach personal responsibility and tell the truth all the way across the board, the fewer problems it will have.
[02:17:52]  I mean, you know, there's a fairly long list of people who have been, quote, substance abusers of some sort or another who've achieved remarkable success, you know, in their own field of endeavor.
[02:18:03]  But as I say, when something is made illegal, it's a crime to partake, you know, simply because of the fact that it's illegal.
[02:18:12]  And that drives underground a whole lot of people who otherwise, well, who are the people next door, you know, and are the people that you respect, you know, because of the secret that they keep.
[02:18:24]  Well, I'm not sure that you're helping.
[02:18:27]  I mean, by sounding very articulate and very together, and yet admitting you've been using this for 20 years, you sort of become a marijuana poster boy.
[02:18:38]  Well, there's millions and millions of marijuana poster people, I suppose.
[02:18:44]  And as I say, they do everything under the sun.
[02:18:46]  I just don't think that the real issue is marijuana any more than it's alcohol or tobacco or anything.
[02:18:51]  I think that the real issue that's critical to our development as humans is self-awareness and personal responsibility across the board, whether it's about how many drinks you have or whether you choose to go out and get in a car after you drink.
[02:19:06]  And I think that a lot of these things.
[02:19:09]  Even saying all that, which does sound very reasonable, the government does have some proper role in seeing to the safety and welfare of those that it governs.
[02:19:21]  I mean, that is one appropriate role for the government, as in what, for example, the FDA does, or as in limiting very, very dangerous drugs and crack cocaine, heroin, PCP, LSD, you name it.
[02:19:39]  I understand with those class of drugs why the government has a proprietary interest in limiting access to all of that.
[02:19:50]  I do too.
[02:19:51]  And it does get complicated when you start discussing the ramifications of making any particular drug legal.
[02:19:58]  But I think that a person with a well-developed sense of responsibility, you know, that comes from, probably comes from a two-parent home, although maybe not, you know, but comes from just a lot of the-yeah, but where are we going to get all these people you're talking about?
[02:20:12]  Well, that's part of the, I suppose, the evolution of man, God help us, if we're able to evolve spiritually, you know.
[02:20:18]  I suppose that's the thing that separates us from our ancestors even a couple of hundred years ago.
[02:20:24]  You know, I mean, this is the problem.
[02:20:27]  Listen, I've got to lead the line, but the trend is going the wrong way.
[02:20:30]  I don't think we're getting more and more individually responsible people who do everything in moderation.
[02:20:38]  In fact, the argument goes the other way: that we're getting more people, arguably, who are irresponsible, who are out for whatever they can get, view things as deteriorating and think they're going to grab their big piece of the pie right now and get a piece of the pie before everything goes to hell in a handbasket.

=== Grandparents' Day Miscommunication (03:47) ===

[02:21:00]  Sort of a I'm going to get mine to hell with you kind of attitude.
[02:21:03]  We're getting more of those people, arguably, not less.
[02:21:07]  Our consciousnesses collectively are not being raised, but are lowering.
[02:21:12]  Wild card line, you're on the air.
[02:21:13]  Hi, Art.
[02:21:14]  Yeah, it was bizarre hearing for the first time what was happening in the media about the president's official who resigned over the sex scandal.
[02:21:21]  Yes, yes.
[02:21:22]  Because I was only picking up bits and pieces and I kept on hearing, I guess his name is Morris or something.
[02:21:29]  Morris.
[02:21:29]  Yes, yes.
[02:21:30]  And it sounded like they were saying that the president was talking to this guy on the phone and he was laying in bed with a girl and they were talking about Mars, about that rock, and it sounded bizarre because I was picking up bits and pieces that didn't.
[02:21:45]  No, no, no, no.
[02:21:46]  Not Mars and the Rock.
[02:21:47]  They were talking about it was Hillary's speech.
[02:21:49]  It was the President's speech.
[02:21:52]  It wasn't those little bugs in the rock.
[02:21:55]  No, no.
[02:21:57]  Nothing sexual about them.
[02:21:59]  No.
[02:22:00]  They're not sperm.
[02:22:01]  No.
[02:22:02]  Okay.
[02:22:02]  Well, I mean, maybe they are in a way in the sense that they'll bring life from one planet to another.
[02:22:07]  Scientists have thought of asteroids and meteorites as sort of space sperm for a long time.
[02:22:14]  Well, in honor of my caller a few moments ago, here you go, sir.
[02:22:18]  This is your song.
[02:22:20]  This is Premier Networks.
[02:22:21]  That was Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM on this Somewhere in Time.
[02:23:14]  With Art Bell, continues, courtesy of Premier Networks.
[02:23:26]  Now, if that isn't a cat getting its tail stepped on, I don't know what it is.
[02:23:50]  Down in Arizona says, hi, Art, for your information.
[02:23:53]  Grandparents' Day is Sunday, September 8th, so I blew that one big time.
[02:23:57]  Well, I finally figured out on my own it takes a village.
[02:24:07]  So thank you out there, Village, that Grandparents' Day is not this Sunday.
[02:24:11]  It would have been too big a crunch because you could not have ordered flowers today except for Saturday delivery and you couldn't not have done that for $42.95.
[02:24:18]  So it's next weekend, but you can order the flowers now so that your grandparents are not sitting there and weeping, mentally asking themselves how they could have raised a child that was so neglectful of their personal emotional feelings.

=== Call From Dawson Creek (15:26) ===

[02:24:35]  Hey, no pressure here.
[02:24:37]  First time caller line, you're on the air high.
[02:24:40]  Whoops, you would have been.
[02:24:41]  Wildcard line, you're on the air.
[02:24:43]  High.
[02:24:43]  How are you doing?
[02:24:46]  Reasonably well.
[02:24:47]  Everybody in Perump is just doing fine tonight.
[02:24:50]  Well, I don't know about everybody in Perump.
[02:24:51]  I can't speak for them.
[02:24:54]  Call from Dawson Creek, British Columbia.
[02:24:56]  My name is Earl.
[02:24:57]  Whoa, all the way up in Dawson Creek.
[02:24:59]  You betcha.
[02:25:00]  And I went through Dawson Creek several times when I drove the Alcan.
[02:25:04]  Right?
[02:25:04]  Right?
[02:25:05]  Well, my grandfather was part of one of the loggers that was cleared right away for that.
[02:25:09]  No kidding.
[02:25:10]  I drove the Alcan when about 1,500 of the miles were gravel.
[02:25:14]  Yeah.
[02:25:15]  And the only really cool time to drive that road was winter when it was covered with snow.
[02:25:20]  Uh-huh.
[02:25:20]  Smoother outsole.
[02:25:22]  Yeah, otherwise your car looks like it came through the, you know, the meteorite belt out there.
[02:25:30]  Yeah, that's about it.
[02:25:31]  That's about it.
[02:25:32]  She's getting better, though.
[02:25:33]  Oh, I know.
[02:25:34]  Yeah.
[02:25:35]  No, I just want to call here.
[02:25:36]  I'm first-time caller.
[02:25:37]  Yeah, sir.
[02:25:37]  I've been listening to you for about a year, and I got just about everybody here at work hooked on, you know.
[02:25:42]  Really?
[02:25:42]  On what station do you listen?
[02:25:44]  I listen to you some nights we can get you on Como.
[02:25:47]  Uh-huh.
[02:25:48]  And other nights on Spokane, they're KGA, 1510, yes.
[02:25:54]  Yeah.
[02:25:55]  It all depends on the weather, which channel we get you on.
[02:25:58]  Interesting.
[02:25:59]  But at least one of them is serviceable on one night or the other, huh?
[02:26:03]  Yeah.
[02:26:03]  Oh, yeah.
[02:26:04]  Actually, most nights we can get you on boat there, but on real hot, sweltery nights, Coma don't come in at all, but Spokane does.
[02:26:11]  Interesting.
[02:26:12]  How big now, population-wise, is Dawson Creek?
[02:26:16]  We're about 13,000.
[02:26:17]  About 13,000.
[02:26:19]  Yeah.
[02:26:20]  You know, that's about the same size, roughly, as the community I'm in.
[02:26:24]  Is that right?
[02:26:25]  Yes.
[02:26:25]  Oh, wow.
[02:26:26]  Do you have any stoplights in Dawson Creek?
[02:26:28]  Oh, we got a few of them.
[02:26:29]  Too many of them.
[02:26:30]  Really?
[02:26:31]  We only have one, ha.
[02:26:34]  Too many of them.
[02:26:35]  And I objected when we got our one, but progress, I guess.
[02:26:39]  So we're up to five now.
[02:26:41]  Oh, man.
[02:26:43]  All right.
[02:26:44]  Well, listen, good talking to you, and I'm glad to know we've got fans way up there.
[02:26:47]  Yeah, you betcha.
[02:26:48]  All right, my friends.
[02:26:49]  Have a good night.
[02:26:50]  Take care.
[02:26:50]  Dawson Creek.
[02:26:52]  Interesting place, Dawson Creek.
[02:26:56]  East of the Rockies, you're on the air top OD morning to you.
[02:26:59]  Hey, Art Bell.
[02:27:00]  Yes, sir.
[02:27:00]  Icon of nighttime talk radio.
[02:27:03]  Icon.
[02:27:04]  I'm not going to.
[02:27:04]  I told you not to fly Airflot.
[02:27:06]  Did you like Moscow?
[02:27:08]  Yeah, I did.
[02:27:10]  Moscow, even though I went to far prettier, more friendly places, Moscow was the most interesting.
[02:27:20]  Aeroflot was the most frightening.
[02:27:23]  I told you, don't fly Airflot.
[02:27:25]  I told you when I talked to you before, Moscow is a once-in-a-lifetimer.
[02:27:28]  Do you notice how disheveled and decrepit everything was?
[02:27:32]  Yeah.
[02:27:32]  Well, see, they didn't give me a choice.
[02:27:34]  I mean, if I hadn't gotten on that Aeroflot plane, I would not have gone to Moscow.
[02:27:37]  So it was like...
[02:27:38]  Well, it's the only place you could, the only way you could fly in Russia is Aeroflot.
[02:27:42]  It's that or the train or the bus.
[02:27:44]  I didn't see anything else.
[02:27:46]  I saw one airplane from Bangkok or something, Thai Airlines, and that was it.
[02:27:51]  Otherwise, it was Airflow.
[02:27:52]  I'll tell you something else I'm strange about AirFlock.
[02:27:55]  In Russia, at the airports...
[02:27:58]  Sure, might be able to.
[02:28:00]  No, I mean, we're in a big, you know, Aleutian aircraft, right?
[02:28:03]  Yeah.
[02:28:04]  But when they land, it's like an American parking lot.
[02:28:09]  And by that, I mean they're obviously not assigned a parking place.
[02:28:13]  And it's the damnedest thing.
[02:28:15]  After you land, the airplane has to go around the tarmac, circling around like you would in a supermarket parking lot looking for a place to park.
[02:28:24]  Yeah, target of opportunity.
[02:28:26]  It's dark.
[02:28:27]  You must admit, you're glad you went, right?
[02:28:29]  Oh, of course.
[02:28:31]  I've been in 19 countries.
[02:28:32]  I would go back in five seconds.
[02:28:34]  I wouldn't want to live there as a citizen, but I wouldn't have missed it for the world.
[02:28:38]  There you go.
[02:28:39]  I love you, Art.
[02:28:40]  Great show.
[02:28:40]  Thanks for the call.
[02:28:42]  Well, he's gone.
[02:28:44]  Yeah, I forgot to mention that to you.
[02:28:46]  So Duck Onto's thing.
[02:28:48]  Both in St. Petersburg and Moscow, when we land, it's like there's no assigned landing.
[02:28:53]  The control tower doesn't say you will go to spots elsewhere.
[02:28:56]  They just keep going around, wandering aimlessly around through what seemed like endless rows of airflot aircraft until they can find a place to park.
[02:29:09]  It's like we spent a good 20 minutes just circling up and down these rows of aircraft looking for a blank spot.
[02:29:19]  It's crazy.
[02:29:20]  Wildcard line, you're on the air.
[02:29:21]  Hi.
[02:29:22]  Hi.
[02:29:23]  All right.
[02:29:23]  Yes, sir.
[02:29:24]  Yeah, I'm Mark in San Diego.
[02:29:27]  Yes, Mark.
[02:29:27]  KFMB.
[02:29:28]  KFMB, San Diego.
[02:29:30]  Absolutely.
[02:29:31]  I listened to it a lot.
[02:29:32]  And Richard Hoagland was on Stacey Taylor this afternoon for about a half an hour.
[02:29:38]  Yes, I knew that was going to occur because KFMB called me or an agent for KFMB called me and asked me if I would appear with Richard and whether I could get Richard on.
[02:29:52]  And I said, well, the time of day that you're going to want to do this is not exactly a time of day when I'm generally awake.
[02:30:01]  So I begged off and gave them information on how to contact Richard.
[02:30:07]  And I heard that he commented on the photograph that's up on the webpage.
[02:30:12]  Oh, he did a lot more than that.
[02:30:13]  He read a fact.
[02:30:15]  It must have been two or three pages from one of his sources.
[02:30:18]  Right.
[02:30:19]  And I haven't heard you talk about that.
[02:30:23]  In which he discussed, he definitely said it was fired from a ship and that there were three aircraft involved, a drone at 30,000 feet.
[02:30:35]  I've got the facts, yeah.
[02:30:36]  Okay.
[02:30:37]  And I thought that was very interesting.
[02:30:41]  And what and if it was the thought that occurred to me was that if this was a missile that was being fired at a drone, and if it was not a live missile, it might have some traces of explosive in it, but not a full load.
[02:30:57]  Entirely possible.
[02:30:58]  It wouldn't take much, of course, if it hit the right place to ignite the fuel.
[02:31:02]  Yeah.
[02:31:03]  At any rate, like your show.
[02:31:06]  And you've been down here, what, a month?
[02:31:09]  KFMB?
[02:31:10]  Yes.
[02:31:10]  At KFMB, about a month.
[02:31:12]  And, of course, before that, KOGO in San Diego.
[02:31:15]  Okay, well, I'm addicted to it.
[02:31:18]  Keep up the good work.
[02:31:19]  Thank you.
[02:31:20]  Well, thank you.
[02:31:20]  And as a side note for my KFMB listeners, Dreamland is coming to KFMB.
[02:31:27]  And they're trying to clear the schedule for it.
[02:31:30]  And they will have it clear by September something or another.
[02:31:35]  I'm not sure when, the precise date.
[02:31:37]  I think they're running a little promo about it down in San Diego now, but Dreamland will be coming to San Diego.
[02:31:43]  Unfortunately, not in time to hear the C SETI show coming up this Sunday.
[02:31:49]  But in the meantime, there are a number of signals that reach San Diego quite readily.
[02:31:57]  One of them is 840 from Las Vegas.
[02:32:02]  The mighty KVEG absolutely puts a big signal down into San Diego.
[02:32:08]  I would imagine that 780 from Reno probably gets quite readily into San Diego.
[02:32:16]  There are a number of stations that can fill in the blanks until KFMB gets the schedule cleared, which will occur next month, I guarantee.
[02:32:28]  Wildcard Line, you're on the air.
[02:32:30]  Hi.
[02:32:32]  This is...
[02:32:35]  That's good.
[02:32:36]  Always turn off your radio.
[02:32:38]  Yeah, I turned the radio off and the TV came on.
[02:32:40]  This is Milton Greenwood.
[02:32:42]  I just wondered, you had one stoplight in a town of 13,000 people?
[02:32:47]  Yeah.
[02:32:49]  What do you do when everybody wants to use it at once?
[02:32:51]  The stoplight?
[02:32:52]  Yeah.
[02:32:53]  Well, that's the whole purpose of the stoplight, sir, to keep everybody from using the intersection at once.
[02:32:59]  Right?
[02:33:00]  I suppose.
[02:33:02]  That wasn't my serious question.
[02:33:04]  Good.
[02:33:05]  I was trying to call you last Friday when Richard was on.
[02:33:09]  A caller asked him to get him a technical report at R277 from NASA.
[02:33:15]  Yes.
[02:33:15]  I know where he can get it for eight bucks.
[02:33:18]  Well, I'm sure he can cough up eight bucks.
[02:33:20]  First time caller line, you're on the air.
[02:33:23]  Yes, sir.
[02:33:24]  I'm calling about the Flight 800.
[02:33:27]  Yes.
[02:33:27]  Okay.
[02:33:30]  On that day, nine miles off the coast of New Jersey, six miles outside of the territorial waters, U.S. waters, the U.S. Navy had a live fire where they launched.
[02:33:50]  They denied that.
[02:33:52]  That early on was said there was indeed an exercise going on out there, but they said it was not live fire.
[02:34:02]  That's what they're saying, sir.
[02:34:05]  I can't swear to it I wasn't there, but I do know a few people who were there, and they did launch.
[02:34:12]  Three missiles were set away.
[02:34:14]  I can't confirm what types they were.
[02:34:19]  How can you even confirm it was done?
[02:34:24]  Through peers that I know.
[02:34:26]  Peers that you know.
[02:34:27]  Yes, sir.
[02:34:28]  Would you?
[02:34:29]  I can't disclose any of that.
[02:34:30]  I can't disclose any of that.
[02:34:32]  Of course not.
[02:34:32]  Of course not.
[02:34:35]  Okay, thank you very much for the rumor and the call.
[02:34:41]  Unless somebody's willing to step forward and say, hey, a missile was fired.
[02:34:47]  Here are the people.
[02:34:49]  Then it's rumor.
[02:34:52]  And indeed, they said it was not a live fire exercise.
[02:34:57]  Now, maybe that's wrong.
[02:34:58]  Maybe there was a missile loose by mistake.
[02:35:00]  Who knows?
[02:35:01]  But all I'm going to say, and I'm going to say it again, is while I don't discount the possibility, and my mind is certainly open to it, it would require a cover-up that is so massive that I just genuinely don't think they could maintain it.
[02:35:16]  And I don't think that, I mean, so many people would have to be involved.
[02:35:21]  It just anything could be, and maybe ultimately we will discover that it was such a thing.
[02:35:29]  But if it was a cover-up going to the highest levels, then, boy, God help us as a nation, he says again.
[02:35:37]  East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
[02:35:39]  Hi.
[02:35:39]  Good morning, Art.
[02:35:40]  Good morning to you.
[02:35:41]  Sort of missed a few minutes ago being able to promo that one commercial for you.
[02:35:46]  What commercial?
[02:35:47]  The one about the telephone bill.
[02:35:50]  The telephone.
[02:35:51]  Oh, GTI?
[02:35:52]  GTI.
[02:35:53]  Yeah.
[02:35:54]  Yeah, because this is Keith Cohen from Nashville.
[02:35:56]  Yes, sir.
[02:35:57]  WWT and 100,000-watt monster.
[02:36:00]  It is a monster.
[02:36:01]  It is big.
[02:36:03]  And that's right.
[02:36:03]  They've got us on satellite.
[02:36:05]  I understand now 24 hours a day.
[02:36:07]  Galaxy 5 Transponder 18.
[02:36:09]  Cool.
[02:36:11]  What I was wanting to ask you, something I've been bothering myself and thought thinking of for several months now.
[02:36:18]  A couple years ago, they did a survey here in Tennessee that said the public sector took on better pay.
[02:36:26]  First time callers, Area 702-727-1222.
[02:36:32]  That might change a little bit with all the million-dollar jocks.
[02:36:35]  But me and how every time Charlie calls you, he's paying for the line?
[02:36:41]  No, every time Charlie calls, we're paying for the call because he uses the government phone.
[02:36:48]  That's right.
[02:36:50]  Yeah, that's the point.
[02:36:51]  So, you know, oh, you think he's using the government phone at work?
[02:36:55]  Hell yes.
[02:36:56]  Instead of, well, that's not going to do me any good.
[02:37:00]  He works, sir, for the U.S. Customs Service, and he's awake at this hour because he's working.
[02:37:06]  So that tells you he's you don't think he's running out to a phone booth, do you?
[02:37:10]  He's a flag then.
[02:37:11]  We need to trace that and get this fool busted.
[02:37:14]  He's breaking the law.
[02:37:16]  Yeah.
[02:37:17]  Look, by now, they should have caught.
[02:37:19]  If they were going to catch him, they should have caught him already.
[02:37:21]  Yeah, because they should be getting the bill, and they should be wondering where all this cost is going to.
[02:37:26]  Well, maybe you ought to be asking yourself why he hasn't been caught.
[02:37:29]  The answer might be because he makes such pro-government calls.
[02:37:35]  For real.
[02:37:36]  Don't if he was paying for it out of his own pocket, I'd be wanting to know who his long-distance carrier is so I can invest in him and get some of my money back.
[02:37:45]  I see.
[02:37:46]  But doggone to Sticky.
[02:37:47]  He's calling from work and defrauding my paycheck.
[02:37:50]  Oh, goodness gracious.
[02:37:52]  What I frankly found more than a little passing interest, with more than passing interest, was that Roger Morris used the code, had the code word Charlie.
[02:38:06]  And I don't think that's just an accident.
[02:38:08]  It's extremely interesting.
[02:38:11]  Yeah.
[02:38:11]  More than just a, I mean, there are very few coincidences in the world.
[02:38:16]  Charlie.
[02:38:18]  It's Charlie, advisor to the president.
[02:38:22]  Code word Charlie.
[02:38:24]  Now, where do you think that came from?
[02:38:27]  Wildcard line, you're on the air.
[02:38:29]  Hi, Art, K-O-H, Evan Reno.
[02:38:31]  Yes, sir.
[02:38:31]  Two quick things.
[02:38:32]  One is, I forgot your box address.
[02:38:34]  I got the town.
[02:38:36]  All right.
[02:38:36]  Are you ready?
[02:38:37]  Yes, sir.
[02:38:38]  It is.
[02:38:39]  P.O. Box 4755.
[02:38:43]  Okay.
[02:38:44]  In Perrump, Nevada.
[02:38:46]  And you know how to spell Perrump, right?
[02:38:47]  Right, I do.
[02:38:48]  Let me hear it.
[02:38:49]  P-A-H-R-U-M-P.
[02:38:51]  That's good.
[02:38:52]  Do you know my zip code?
[02:38:53]  No.
[02:38:54]  Oh, you've got to have the zip code.
[02:38:56]  I could have looked it up, but I didn't want to use it up for your valuable time.
[02:38:59]  I have another important question.
[02:39:00]  It's not that valuable.
[02:39:00]  It's 89041-4755.
[02:39:06]  When we were talking last night about what they planned to use for money to finance Clinton's plan, the trial balloon that was run up was the fact that they want to use the pension unfunded private pension corporate funds.
[02:39:17]  And Jesse Jackson was the man who sent up the trial balloon of using 6% right off the top.
[02:39:22]  And Clinton raided the teachers' fund, pension fund of Arkansas before when he was in there, pumped it into the education department, which Hillary was run into, and the pension fund in Arkansas for the Teachers' Fund is empty when he left.
[02:39:36]  And that's what he's headed for when he's always wanted to raid the pension fund.
[02:39:42]  Well, that's horrible.

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[02:39:43]  Turn your radio back off again.
[02:39:45]  I'm off.
[02:39:45]  Yep.
[02:39:47]  That's horrible.
[02:39:48]  Contemplate.
[02:39:49]  I thought it was just tax code manipulation they were going to try to get it done with.
[02:39:53]  No.
[02:39:53]  Alicia Minnell is Assistant Secretary of Treasure, appointed by Lloyd Menson.
[02:39:58]  She wants to take initially, and it's in the August issue of the San Francisco Chronicle Chronicle 1993, to use 15% right off the top as a surtax on all the pension funds.
[02:40:10]  The only unfunded or unmortgaged money in the United States is between $4 and $4.5 trillion, and that's the only unmortgaged money in the whole country.
[02:40:19]  That's incredible.
[02:40:20]  Before you know it, thank you.
[02:40:21]  They're going to be going into Little Kitty's piggy banks.
[02:40:25]  Be signing some sort of executive order going after piggybanks.
[02:40:35]  And if you don't yield them up voluntarily, they bring a little crushing unit into your house, which piggybank can crush.
[02:40:47]  Take the money.
[02:40:50]  First time caller line, you are on the air.
[02:40:53]  Hi.
[02:40:54]  Hi, Art Goff.
[02:40:55]  Yes, I can barely hear you, dear.
[02:40:56]  Get into that phone and yell at us.
[02:40:59]  Okay, this is Vicki in Kailua, Hawaii.
[02:41:01]  Wow.
[02:41:03]  Yeah.
[02:41:04]  Your show keeps me sane, so thanks a lot.
[02:41:08]  You're welcome.
[02:41:09]  I'm surprised by the number of people that listen to you.
[02:41:12]  I talk about how I didn't get much sleep the night before because I listened to the Art Bell show, and it just shocks me.
[02:41:18]  So many people say, Oh, you listened to Art Bell?
[02:41:21]  And I just don't think you realize how many listeners you really have.
[02:41:25]  Well, I try not to think about it.
[02:41:27]  Yeah.
[02:41:27]  I mean, I'm very thankful for it, but it's better not to think about because then you get nervous.
[02:41:33]  Yeah.
[02:41:34]  Well, I had a thought.
[02:41:35]  Now, I have two questions.
[02:41:37]  First of all, I'm wondering if maybe you aren't a government employee.
[02:41:41]  That's your whole plan is to get us all so exhausted from staying up all night listening to you that they can control us.
[02:41:49]  That's a joke.
[02:41:50]  That's a joke.
[02:41:51]  Well, it could be true.
[02:41:53]  Yeah.
[02:41:54]  And then I was wondering what you think of Al Gore, because I'm so confused about who to vote for that I'm down to the point now where I'm thinking, well, I think I'll vote for Clinton because he'll probably be impeached, and we'll have Al Gore for our next president.
[02:42:07]  He seems like a pretty decent guy.
[02:42:10]  What do you think of Al Gore?
[02:42:11]  Al Gore actually is a pretty decent guy.
[02:42:16]  He's fairly straightforward.
[02:42:19]  He's technologically fairly savvy, as a matter of fact.
[02:42:24]  He actually has a sense of humor.
[02:42:27]  Very dry, but he has one.
[02:42:31]  So Al Gore isn't a bad guy, all things considered.
[02:42:35]  I'm not sure that I would want Al Gore as a president, though.
[02:42:39]  I mean, then you'd have four years of Al Gore, and then you'd have four more years of Al Gore.
[02:42:44]  Then you'd probably have Tipper Gore.
[02:42:47]  Then by then, you could probably have Chelsea or something.
[02:42:52]  Yeah.
[02:42:52]  Can I say one more thing?
[02:42:55]  That's about it.
[02:42:56]  One more thing, because my show's ending.
[02:42:57]  Okay, I'd like to say hello to my friend Scott, who's one of your most faithful fans.
[02:43:01]  He's in the hospital.
[02:43:02]  Get well soon.
[02:43:03]  Get well soon, Scott.
[02:43:04]  All right.
[02:43:04]  I'm going to give you the honors, and we don't get them from Hawaii all the time, so tell them, well, you know what to tell them.
[02:43:13]  Good night, America.
[02:43:14]  From Hawaii.
[02:43:15]  Good night, America.
[02:43:16]  Yeah, that's right.
[02:43:17]  Well, all right.
[02:43:18]  Take care.
[02:43:19]  Okay, you do, Art.
[02:43:20]  Bye from the high desert.