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today. Ladies and gentlemen, it is Thursday, May 20th, 2024.
The New York jury in the historic show trial asked to have the instructions read to them again.
They were confused, so was the whole world, and the judge reissued them the same way.
You don't have to find unanimously he committed a crime.
You can all pick different crimes and just say he's a criminal.
Top lawyers, both liberal and conservative, have chimed in.
They say that's completely illegal and absolutely unprecedented in English common law in U.S.
law, it is unbelievable.
He's not putting his thumb on the scale, he's putting his tyrannical fat ass on it.
And President Trump has come out and just destroyed it.
It's all coming up.
We're simulcasting on X Spaces, coming in 30 minutes.
We will, as people fill the space, start taking your live comments and speakers on air and so much more.
We have guests in studio, lawyers coming on, you name it.
I'm thinking the verdict comes out sometime today.
Maybe tomorrow, because they won't have a long weekend to hide.
But ladies and gentlemen, let's go ahead and go to what President Trump said this morning, calling the judge a corrupt crook, which is what he is.
unidentified
Thank you very much.
Here we go again.
Five weeks.
I've been here.
I'm gagged.
I'd like to answer all of your questions.
They're very easy questions to answer, but I'm gagged, so I can't talk as much as I would like to about this ridiculous case that's hurting our country so badly.
Some of the reviews from yesterday are the... And by the way, everyone's against this case.
I haven't seen one legal scholar or expert in the law say that this case It should have been filed.
It should not have been filed.
Or at a minimum, it should have been filed seven years ago.
At seven years old, everybody turned it down, including federal elections turned it down.
Southern District turned it down.
Brang turned it down.
Then he rejuvenated it when I was running for office.
It's a terrible thing.
At the request of Biden, the editors of the National Review say, quit Trump!
Bragg has failed to prove his charges.
Totally failed.
Greg Jarrett.
Who exactly was defrauding?
Voters who had already voted?
Well, they already voted because all of this stuff came in after the elections.
How are they defrauding?
And then you say, what about Hillary with the dossier?
What about all of the other things that go?
And this is nothing.
This is nothing.
But what about all of the corruption, the voter fraud that you've seen over the last year on behalf of the Democrats and nobody talks about it?
This is ridiculous what they're talking about.
This is called running for office.
Rick Jarrett.
The government which received full payment on all taxable income.
The government, by the way, received full payment.
The taxes were paid in full.
In fact, they make comments on that.
Even if the taxes were paid in full, the Federal Elections Commission had concluded that money paid did not constitute a campaign contribution under the law.
And remember, this judge wouldn't allow us.
He's a very conflicted judge.
Everybody knows that.
You don't want to talk about what the conflict was.
I'm not allowed to talk about it.
Because of a gang order that he put on me.
It's the one subject he really doesn't want to talk about.
There was no fraud.
There was no conspiracy.
It's that simple.
Moreover, without a primary crime, there can be no secondary crime.
It's a classic law thing.
A weaponizing statute.
Because the law's been... Okay, ready?
Because no law has been broken.
That was a great chap.
Eli Honig, legal analyst for CNN.
The crime here is not easy to explain or to understand.
It's just not understandable.
In other words, there is no crime.
This is CNN.
Catherine Christian from MSNBC.
I call it MSDNC Legal Analyst.
It's difficult because it's a very nuanced argument.
It's never been prosecuted before.
This is an argument that has never been prosecuted.
And our attacks only make us stronger and only certify us as the rebels fighting for a pro-human future!
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We are simulcasting on X right now at Real Alex Jones, both video and in X spaces.
We have speakers coming in by the thousands and at the bottom of the hour in T-minus 22 minutes, We will start going to your comments on one big subject that's so huge, the total weaponization of the judiciary, not just here but across the Western world, the nakedness of these criminal and civil cases, and now, out of all of the incredible oppression, out of all the incredible kangaroo courtism and railroading that we've witnessed, ladies and gentlemen, in show trials,
The judge yesterday in jury instructions, we read them on air, we've got them again.
I just saw it right before I went on air.
I said, well, I'm not a lawyer, but you're supposed to unanimously agree on the criminal charges if you're convicting.
You can't say there's 30-something charges and you can not all agree on each of those charges.
That's like saying...
That fish don't live in the water.
It's like having a football game with no football team.
It's such a massive fraud.
And it's now stunning Democrat, Republican analyst, legal analyst in the UK.
It all comes out of English common law.
You've got to have the jury on each charge unanimously agree on that.
You can't sit there and say, well, if you just all think he did something, even though it's not really listed here, you can then still convict.
That's the judge not putting his thumb on the scale, but putting his wart-covered petunia ass on it.
This is incredible.
We already played part of Trump's statement this morning.
We're going to play the conclusion where he calls the judge basically a corrupt crook and then I've got legal analyst analysis and then we're going to start.
We've got lawyers coming on, Robert Barnes, Viva Frye, got a bunch of other people lined up to be joining us, people in studio coming up.
We're going to be taking a lot of X's, spaces, comments from you again coming up in 20 minutes from now.
We're simulcasting my syndicated radio slash TV program that's been on air.
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Let's go back to what Trump said this morning.
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And hopefully they'll never be prosecuted again.
Andy McCarthy, this is anything but standard.
It's the antithesis of standard, actually.
The idea that they do not have to agree on what the other crime is.
We spent six weeks wondering, what is the other crime?
What is the other crime?
And at the end, the thud we all get is this.
There's three or four of them and you could pick one from the other and they don't have to agree on anything.
And what he's saying is it's so corrupt Nobody's ever heard of a thing like this.
It's called pick'em.
It's like the lottery.
Pick'em.
You pick'em.
And you don't have to be, even though in a criminal case you have to be unanimous, you don't have to be.
Just give a couple of votes.
Because the judge, unfortunately, is corrupt.
Judge Jeanine Pirro, no one has heard of this.
It's like there's a menu column A, B, or C. You don't have to agree on it.
This is a kangaroo court.
This is unheard of.
I've never seen anything like it.
I've done this for 32 years.
I'm not a federal prosecutor or a state prosecutor, so I know what I'm talking about.
I'm not a federal judge.
I'm a county judge, just like Bershka.
This is New York law.
This is Mike Wilhouse.
He is 100% wrong.
He's wrong.
That's what Jeanine Pirro, very good woman, very smart woman.
Jonathan Turley.
This is becoming a three-card bounty game on where is the crime?
Smart guy.
Where is the crime?
Mike Davis, the U.S.
would sanction a country for doing this.
I think that's good.
I think that's good.
Seattle, it seems that every single day these proceedings go on, the judge and the prosecutor just go out of their way to prove Trump's point.
I guess he is, but they all prove me my point, wouldn't you think?
That's why I write some of these things that are very sad.
Mark Levin, this Stalinist-like case, it's a Stalinist-like case.
It has prevented President Trump from running for office.
It has prevented him from campaigning.
He's unable to campaign because he's been in a courthouse for five weeks.
And yet we just had a poll came in, NPR.
Trump's 54, Biden's 42.
And that's with independents.
That's the best we've ever had.
They said this is the single best call that Trump has ever had with independents.
Trump's largest lead among independent voters, NPR Marist College, 44-28.
And Junior is way down, way, way down.
But it's 44 juniors, extremely liberal.
By the way, he's extremely radical left.
I think you know that.
But he seems to be already Biden, probably a little bit.
So that's it.
It's a disgrace.
The millions and millions of dollars that are spent daily on this case.
Outside, it looks like it's Fort Knox.
Like they're guarding this.
I've never seen so many policemen.
Now with Columbia University, you can plant a tent right in front of the main door, no problem.
NYU, just put your tent up.
Don't worry about it.
Over here.
But I just want to say that this is a very sad day for America.
The whole world is watching.
And it's a very sad day for New York.
I've gone through two of these trials already.
It's a very... with the same kind of a judge.
It's all worked.
It's all rigged.
The whole thing, the whole system is rigged.
Judge Ingorn was overturned five times in my case.
And he's going to be overturned again.
And we were treated very, very badly.
And the outside world is watching.
And the outside world is just not going to bring their business to New York.
And that's going to cost the city trillions and the state trillions and trillions of dollars businesses are leaving.
And people are fleeing, so... You can see the courts yourself, and thank you all very much.
We'll come in later on in the evening, but we'll be here, it looks like, a long time.
You know, they're talking about not convicting Trump because they can't find a crime, even in New York.
That's why the judge put his ass on the scale yesterday and said, you don't have to unanimously agree on any crime here.
Just, you can all have separate crimes you think he did.
No, on each count, they've got to be unanimous.
Again, this is the most illegal thing I've ever heard of.
It's almost like judges finding me guilty in Texas and Connecticut
in coordination with an HBO production that ran the trials and ran the script
where we couldn't talk about how we were innocent or anything,
but people still expect a trial, so they had a trial on damages
and then wouldn't let us show any financial info and they said I had secretly $400 million
and I was in the hole at the time they said that and I had never, never had more than $5 million.
I mean, this is just, I got the Bitcoin donation, nine million,
I remember they said in the court in Connecticut, they go, we're going to go to the feds, you're perjuring yourself.
Right now, Mr. Jones, you kept the Bitcoin money.
I said, well, it was given to me, I could have, but no, I could have run to the Bahamas, but I put it all in to save InfoWars.
That kept us on air for several years.
And of course, it all came out in court, in federal court, and I did.
I kept $25,000 for myself.
So again, and that's what I said on the court, I said, I think I bought some software for myself personally, $25,000.
So that's the type of stuff that goes on here, ladies and gentlemen.
And when people saw that, they totally turned against him on YouTube for both my show trials.
So they stopped comments because 99% were against them.
Now that was two years ago.
People now really get what's going on.
And if they can get away with this with Trump, they can get away with it with anybody.
Now, here's Senator Ted Cruz, who is the top of his class, unlike Joe Biden, who said he was.
He was the bottom of his class.
Here's Ted Cruz explaining what's happening, and then we've got NBC's senior legal correspondent saying that it appears that this is a rigged trial.
And then another expert, Doug Bergman, Burgum, every American should be concerned or scared if you can take a business filing records case and magically turn it into 34 felonies.
The good news is the exchange you were just having with Jonathan Turley is exactly right.
We now know to a virtual certainty that no conviction will be upheld on appeal.
That the judge today committed, I think, clear reversible error.
These jury instructions were nonsense.
Now here's the bad news.
The bad news is, this has been a kangaroo court from the beginning.
This is a wildly partisan prosecutor who hates Donald Trump, who came with a political objective of going after Donald Trump, and we now know from these jury instructions that this judge is every bit the partisan that the prosecutor is.
and he knows this is reversible error as you noted Ramos versus Louisiana clearly held in 2020 that every element of the crime must be proven beyond a reasonable doubt must be unanimous by the jury and yet this judge says it doesn't matter not in New York the Constitution does not apply in New York which means if we get a conviction it will be reversed on appeal but The judge doesn't care.
The prosecutor doesn't care.
Nobody cares because this is not about law.
This is not about criminal justice.
This is about politics.
This is all about the press conference, the national address that Joe Biden is scheduled to give from the White House, where he gloats, we've now convicted Donald Trump.
This is all about November.
We are watching election interference.
This is the most blatant case of election interference that we've ever seen in our country's history.
unidentified
I got it.
These are the instructions that the jury has to follow in Donald Trump's hush money trial before they can reach a verdict.
53 pages!
This is complicated.
This is lengthy stuff.
It took the judge over an hour to read it.
But guess what?
The jury doesn't get this in the room during deliberations.
They have to write questions, they can write notes, but they don't get these instructions.
In New York, both parties have to agree and the judge has to agree.
Every American should be afraid or scared because if you can take a business filing records case and magically turn it into 34 felonies, I mean, I asked myself as a business person, I said, Why isn't the courts in New York filled with CEOs?
There's tens of millions of business records filings that have gone on in the last seven years in that city.
This is the only one where they've taken the CEO of a company and said, oh, we think this might be a felony charge we're going to bring in court for five weeks?
I mean, there's not enough capacity in the judicial system.
That's why these things are misdemeanors.
The Democrats passed a law in New York so that E. Jean Carroll could go make up her story about Trump.
trying to manufacture something out of this thing and so yeah he it's whatever comes out of this thing it's the whole thing it's been a travesty of justice
The Democrats passed a law in New York so that E. Jean Carroll could go make up her story about Trump and then when Trump said he was innocent they found
him guilty not of raping a woman but 25 plus years ago supposedly saying he's innocent defamed her.
And the Democrat that authored the bill has now had a woman say that he raped her and is using the bill against him and he's now saying the bill is unconstitutional.
See, they dig a pit for us and then they fall into it because they're mad dogs.
Trump's put out a campaign ad dealing with the weaponization of the judiciary.
Here it is.
unidentified
Thank you for joining us here today.
Earlier this afternoon, Donald Trump was arraigned by a Manhattan grand jury on 34 felony counts.
Congress has a 9% approval rating in the high polls.
6 in some of the other polls.
On average it's a 9.
The corporate media has a 9% approval rating.
Look it up.
Just type in media more hated than Congress in polls.
And then they think having rigged trials We'll then convince somebody that somebody's bad when they're experts in Austin, Texas and New York City and Washington, D.C.
That's the three big places and a few in Connecticut where they own the courts and where they manipulate the juries to then stage these operations.
But people see through it and they know what's going on.
So what's their answer?
World War III.
Total insanity.
Now, some meme makers put this out, and I posted it on RealAlexJones on X, and it's just so well done that I really don't know what to say.
It's politically incorrect.
That's what we're all about.
They tell you don't use the word retarded, but the left, all the world wants to euthanize Down Syndrome people.
So I love Down Syndrome folks, and I don't want to euthanize them.
See, notice they say don't use a word that hurts somebody's feelings, but then they actually want to kill them.
Here it is, introducing the mentally retarded, but they're not Down Syndrome, they're the Democratic Party and Mitt Romney.
Usually, the mentally retarded are divided into classifications.
The educable, The trainable and the custodial.
Obviously, we can only assess the abilities or potential of the mentally retarded on an individual basis.
Seemingly random motions and movements are fairly common among the custodial retarded and they may take many forms.
Sometimes there are motions which seem to have no meaning whatever and may even cause unintentional self-inflicted injuries.
The vast majority of the mentally retarded are intelligent enough that they can be taught a great many things.
However, there's a wide range of ability even among those considered educable.
And their ability to learn obviously varies according to their level of intelligence.
Equally important is a stimulating environment.
However, we must remember to set realistic standards that are not too high for the individual.
Many of the trainable retarded can learn to take certain kinds of household responsibilities, some of which may be more complex than they are usually given credit for.
It would be wrong to expect a mentally retarded person to become a master craftsman.
The standards are too high.
But, even in the skilled trades, for example, the mentally retarded can be trained to become valuable assistants.
Who are the mentally retarded?
They are people.
They come in both sexes, and in all sizes, shapes, creeds, and colors.
Wherever people live, there also live the mentally retarded.
Well, I'll tell you who the mentally retarded are.
That is a master meme.
They're an establishment that was given their power from the establishment that stole power and who are arrogant and don't see that everyone's turning against them.
Because they're politically retarded.
And that's what we're dealing with here.
And they're in control of the nuclear weapons and commanding troops in the field.
Putin three days ago said, alright, you're moving nukes up, you're giving heavy weapons to hit Russia, you're already bombing Russian cities, we're going to start bombing the near future NATO bases outside Ukraine, and if you strike back, we're going to hit with nuclear weapons.
Old Hitler thought he'd beat the Russians, and he did kill 26 million of them, but he didn't.
The Russians are going to pull the trigger, folks.
And I'm sad for what's going to happen in that process.
Because a lot of good people are going to be killed along with the Democrats who are mentally retarded.
They're certainly spiritually mentally retarded.
We would never put up with Russia putting troops on our border and overthrowing Mexico and putting a puppet regime in and firing missiles and hitting Dallas, Texas.
The Russians did that, the nuclear war, like that.
But that's where we are, ladies and gentlemen.
That's where we are.
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Some of us are really weak and fragile, and I don't know why they made this podium so high.
I told them I'm coming straight from the bathhouse and didn't have my platform shoes with me.
I'm speaking to you today because I'm a scared little man, a washed up actor with lots of skeletons in my closet.
People like me need Joe Biden in power.
Not because he's any good, but because he enjoys the same sick perversions we do.
Lots of dipshits think I'm smart because, uh... You know, I used to be able to memorize lines, cock my head to the side, and squid with a New York accent.
In reality, I'm just a mook.
M-O-O-K, mook.
I'll be honest, Donald Trump scares the living shit out of me.
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I'm begging you, vote for Joe Biden so I don't shrivel up and die.
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It is the Trump Kangaroo Court Railroading Watch.
And I don't know if the jury's going to come back today.
They asked to have the instructions read to them again, where the judge said, you don't have to unanimously agree on any of the counts.
If you just think he's a criminal, just say he's guilty.
That is a judge misadvising them on purpose to confuse them to convict him when the law says the opposite.
It's cut and dry.
The legal experts across the political spectrum admit this.
This is an amazing moment.
Chase Geiser.
My co-host here is also running the X-Spaces.
He has to be over his phone, hooked into our system.
This is just doubling down on top of doubling down.
Do they not get, every time they do this, his poll numbers go up?
Nationally, in scientific polls, he's 20 points ahead on average.
That's in mainline establishment polls that oversample Democrats.
And that's what's so scary to me about this because on the surface it doesn't make any sense why they would come after Trump so hard if it's making him go up and up and up and up in the polls.
Maybe they're thinking that it's not going to matter what the people think at all because there's going to be some legal recourse for them to use this as an excuse for the Republican Party to replace him as a candidate or something like that.
I mean, if he's locked up, do you think that the Republicans at the convention are going to try to replace him as the candidate?
Yeah, I mean, that's a big part of it, but the system admits, some of their key mouthpieces, the Soros Group and Breen Zakaria admit they thought the image of the justice system saying he's a criminal and that idea they put out, well, okay, the indictment's backfired, but if he's convicted, that will hurt him.
Well, they're in their bubbles with a bunch of yes-men and women around them, and they still think that they're in control, so it's a political assassination.
But the federal courts are already kicking it off in the election.
They don't want any part of this.
So yeah, the globalists aren't as smart as you'd think.
At the top, they're pretty smart, but they still inherited their power.
But they give orders to minions below them that are very stupid.
And so they're not really getting the intel back.
You know, the globalists just give the orders and then that's it.
Well, you said something brilliant ten years ago, today, where you said the globalists have the knowledge to dominate, but not the long-term wisdom.
And I think that's what we're seeing here with the transhumanists and the eugenics.
This manifests in the political spectrum and in the cultural spectrum, where they're so self-righteous that they think they have it all figured out, and they make stupid mistakes as a result.
So we'll play that later in the broadcast if you remind me.
I want to really go to the people on X Spaces and I want to be very clear.
Yesterday I was getting ready for the show.
About an hour before the show I saw that the judges Rules and jury charge.
And I thought, well, I'm not a lawyer, but aren't you supposed to be unanimous on felonies, unanimous on crimes on each count?
How is he saying, don't worry, mix and match, even if you don't all agree, just still go ahead and convict on everything.
He's trying to confuse them.
This is the most brazen, illegal kangaroo court thing.
I mean, it's so over the top.
And then I saw all the legal analysts, even Democrats, going, yeah, this is a show trial.
This is rigged.
I mean, even NBC's Chief Legal Analyst said this is rigged.
I mean, so this is rigged.
I mean, now maybe the jury does jury nullification and realizes it's rigged, but the judge is telling them, just like the judge said in Texas and Connecticut, run by HBO as an HBO production, literally, with powder puffs and camera crews and everything.
They had scripts, they followed, we weren't allowed to talk unless they asked the specific questions.
They could read from notes, we couldn't.
They could put on fake financial stuff.
We couldn't.
And the judges said, you're not allowed to say you're innocent.
You're not allowed.
It was dozens of things we couldn't say.
People two years ago weren't quite awake yet, but now they really get it.
I've seen the blowback on my cases as the public now really wakes up seeing what's happened to Trump.
So the arrogant lawyers are expending any capital.
Lawyers were already hated, but now they are a pariah.
You know what alarms me the most about all this is I have people that are very close to me that I trust, longtime friends, ten years, and in these Various chat groups that I'm in, I hear whisperings and murmurings, and I see it online too, where people are having very rowdy ideas about what they think should be done in the event of a false conviction.
And if you look back on... Yeah, we don't want that.
My concern is, I try to think about everything that we face today in the context of how the Founding Fathers would respond.
How do you think our Founding Fathers would be responding to this?
And if we could bring them on a time machine to today, after their minds are blown with all the technology that we have, what do you think they would think about this political climate?
So do you think that we're going to experience this suffering and this corruption to such an extent that it wakes people up but not to such an extent that it's insurmountable?
Do you think that people Genetically or whatever, something's going to be reawakened in the American spirit that stops this in time?
And look, it's never been a majority that changes things.
And the evil ones know that.
It's a minority on the good side and the bad side.
And so, the minority that's awake now is...
A thousand times bigger than the little globalist cabal that knows what they're doing.
And then there's just a bunch of dumb people that are following along with their own destruction.
And as soon as we show them how exciting it is, not cool, Hollywood's not cool being pat on the head by the establishment, but how cool it is to be a real man or a real woman and know what's going on and stand up for what's right, you're designed to do it and it is spiritual and then incredible doors open.
I've already spent 43 minutes playing clips and setting the table here.
This is just total running scared desperation.
If I had to call the show one thing, the establishment's running scared, none of their censorship's working, their attacks aren't working, and as long as we don't give up and take what they call victory, you know, they shut down InfoWars, which they're close to doing, we'll just come back stronger.
Don't take it as a defeat, take it as a sign of our success.
And you have to continue to understand, just because you get knocked down, you get back up.
And it's how many punches you can take, not just how many punches you can deliver.
And in the aggregate, we're winning pound for pound. We are gaining the momentum. We've already turned the tide. And so everything else we're seeing now is like Skynet and Terminator sending
back a Terminator to try to kill John Connor, because they've already lost.
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And again, I don't want to take credit for any of this information because it truly goes to Laura Loomer, who you should have on the show to state exactly the money trail that she has discovered.
And you will see that the Democrat Party is entirely funding this orchestrated nightmare against President Trump.
They're not hiding the money that they're sending to his children and the judge himself.
And this is why you see such a corruption and murdering of the logic when it comes to the decisions that he's making.
Like you've stated, 4 plus 4 plus 4 is unanimous.
Like this defies common sense.
This defies what your justice system used to be.
So we look at, you know, we look back at history, Stalin, etc.
All of those dictators that use the very same tactics.
Against their political opponents.
The reality is that the old Biden regime, this is Obama and Biden, are orchestrating and purposely persecuting their political opponents.
Because you have to understand that they have nothing left.
As you witnessed earlier, all of their A-list celebrities, all of their Hollywood endorsements, these people are hated.
And they cannot use them as a prop any longer to induce the hypnosis that they have portrayed on the American people for so long that these people are on our side.
We now know that they are not.
So they're out of solutions.
They're out of everything that they've used in the past.
And the only option that they have now is a weaponization of the justice system.
And it's the only way to keep Trump off the ballot.
And what do they want?
What do they actually want from this?
They want the headline convicted felon.
They want to use the headline convicted felon up until the election.
And when that time comes, this is when they will put him in prison because they will have no other option.
And this is the thing, you've said it a million times before, this all is run by behavioral psychologists.
Once you see that the behavioral psychologists are hijacking your mind to convince you of whatever illusion it is that they're choosing that day, or whatever narrative it is that they want, once you can see past that, it becomes very crystal clear.
That everything is exactly that, an illusion.
So we're at the point now where you're going to have over 100 million Americans vote for President Trump and they cannot beat this level of people showing up to vote.
They can't beat this cheat.
They can't do it.
There's no amount of fake ballots, there's no amount of psychological warfare, there's no amount of vote switching.
Even if they implement some ridiculous mail drop box, sucker box, whatever you want to name it, it's still not going to be able to steal this election because too many people see it.
So the reality is they have no choice but to completely imprison and persecute their political opponent because the people will still overwhelmingly come out in his favor.
It doesn't matter what happens to President Trump in the grand scheme of things because it's only going to make him stronger.
So, you know, I'm listening and, you know, I've been listening.
I've been very, very involved in the Truth and Movement since I was 15 years old.
You know, I started with the 9-11 rabbit hole, you know, continued, you know, going further and further and further.
And it really hasn't dawned on me until very, very recently.
Uh, that there is an even deeper deception that is at the root of all this, that is springing up a false light reactionary movement against the blatant tyrannical wickedness of the globalist elite.
Right?
So like when we think about George Soros, we think about Klaus Schwab, we think about all these great resets, you know, blatantly evil, you know, DC comic book villains that, you know, are, they're like something out of an Austin Powers movie, you know, We underestimate how clever Satan is and that the elite, you know, they're just pawns, right?
You said earlier, you know, what's going on with the elite?
You know, they're pushing.
The more and more they push, the more and more people awaken.
The more and more humanity wakes up to the truth and is uniting on this front against it.
And I believe this is exactly the plan of deceptive spirits.
I think that the root behind the deception isn't necessarily the elite, but it's the deceptive spirits that are guiding not only the elite, but also humanity's response against them.
Well, I mean, look, look, look, look, look, look, evil with an alien dialectic is to try to use any counteraction they control, but good is way more powerful.
This is the great awakening for every action, there's an equal or opposite reaction.
When the enemy comes in like a flood, the spirit of the Lord lives, Elizabeth Sander against it.
But there are so many good people, evil is in trouble.
Good things are happening.
And I think you're kind of saying like people exposing corruption or being guided by evil I don't think you're saying that, but clearly they want violence.
But I think that what's happening, what's stirring within the hearts of man, will inevitably lead to violence because of humans' natural, sinful, fallen state.
I want to take a moment and speak about the elections.
I wish I was as confident as you Liz, but we've got data showing that there's a stigmatographically concealed Algorithm that can basically hide or conceal record attributes in our electronic poll books.
This is so compelling that the data was published in the Journal of Information Warfare, which is a peer-reviewed cybersecurity journal.
We recently have seen through public records requests that indeed Double batches of ballots.
They've been scanned double.
Again, this is from public records requests from FOIA.
We see that, yes, indeed, there was a database in China and a Huawei phone used with our elections.
Above 10 point lead They have problems with dead people and machines because the numbers are so giant when you're winning by 10, 15, 20 points that even the computers, which are only sporadically manipulating, it's mainly mail-in ballots is a fraud.
That's why, yeah, that's why the system's panicking.
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Well, I'm just saying that these things have not been addressed.
So there are people working hard in every county of our country that are trying to bring attention to this, but these changes have not been made.
A lot of the You know, a lot of what's planned now is just let's get more people eyeballed on watching the elections, but they are not going to see what's happening inside the BMDs, the ballot marking devices, inside the printers, inside the tabulators.
There was a hearing yesterday in South Dakota.
They were not turning on the ballot image aspect of the voting machines.
And so then that way people can't recover the ballot images, so they can't have a proper audit.
massive fraud, there's a globalist coup going on, and then they steal it again only makes us make up even more. So, and then we have 90% vote for the next
compatriot, and it backfires. But no, I absolutely hear you, and you're making great points. I guess you cover this on your ex-account?
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Yeah, I'm no influencer.
I'm not a journalist.
I'm just a mom who cares.
And I want to bring as much attention to this as possible because we can't just vote harder, Daddy.
No, we need paper ballots at the precinct level, all publicly done.
That's what the State Department wants in other countries, but not here.
Great points.
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Well, the globalists are a couple steps ahead of everybody.
Does that mean the Chinese elite aren't absolutely evil?
No, they're really evil.
Does that mean the Russian elite aren't evil?
No, they're evil.
Because they're cheating to control society.
They're using tricks to be in control that are bad.
Because good people don't want to be in power and don't want to dominate people.
We are then automatically supplanted by the evil ones.
Not because they're better than us, but because we won't stand up against them until it's almost too late.
Then we do.
We defeat them.
A new renaissance happens.
We become decadent in the cycle.
They creep back in and take control.
And this time, if we don't reverse them, they're going to probably destroy the planet, irrevocably destroy the genetic code of the human race, and really wreck our chances of becoming a Type 1 civilization and setting up off-world colonies.
And then you can decide if you want to be a transhumanist and leave one colony and do whatever you want here, or you want to go to this colony where people maintain their humanity.
I mean, real freedom.
We need...
A renaissance, trailblazing, explorer system.
That's what humans do.
That's what makes us great.
We change our environment.
We do evolve faster than any other species.
We are incredible.
And we need to have a view that we're incredible and amazing.
Not the view put out by the Bilderberg Group that the general public is trash while they try to dumb us down.
That sin against life and against true competition is an unbelievable blasphemy.
And if you don't believe in God, that's your issue.
I'm saying it's a blasphemy against art.
It's a blasphemy against beauty.
It's a blasphemy against free will.
It is a tyrannical, authoritarian blasphemy against my soul and my very programming.
And I have a right to self-determine against it.
And if I'm attacked, I have a right at warfare.
And I am in warfare in Information War with the truth, viciously attacking my enemy.
And I want you to join me in attacking the enemy as well.
Because they're your enemy one way or another.
They're attacking you whether you admit it or not.
These people are absolutely anathema to everything good.
I like driving by a beautiful farmer's field and seeing the beautiful rows of wheat or corn.
These globalists are the pessimists who don't believe in humanity and who think we're ugly and bad so they're making it a self-fulfilling prophecy and who are waging war against humanity because to a man and a woman, I've studied them, They like ugliness and they don't like your good-looking wife.
They don't like you if you're good-looking.
They don't like your art.
They don't like your healthy kids.
They don't like you having your own wealth.
They want it all for themselves.
The bureaucracy of them trying to put all of us collectively in a control grid prison to protect themselves shows how they're now in a prison as well of their own making.
See, what you try to do to somebody else generally ends up happening to you.
And the globalists have knowledge of how to dominate.
They do not have long-term wisdom of, gee, is this good for my children and grandchildren and great-grandchildren, what I'm doing to humanity?
Well, yes, I'm making my house powerful and great and big.
Yeah, but I look at your kids.
They're all basically on average messes.
I mean, you are destroying your genetic line.
You are committing a crime against your name.
It's just not good.
And the argument is, well, I'm not really a bad person.
I'm in a larger corrupt system and I work within it to try to do better at certain points.
But you never do.
I'm not saying everybody at Bilderberg is evil.
I'm not even saying they run the whole world.
They are a key organization that admits they set up the plan for the European Union, and that's been declassified BBC.
In the 90s reported that, and interviewed the head of the Bilderberg group at the time, Lord Healy.
And they were in, again, German newspapers two weeks ago bragging that they're the most powerful.
I don't know.
According to Helmut Schmidt in his book, Men in Power's Political Retrospective, German Chancellor, he said it was probably the most powerful, along with Trilateral Commission and Bohemian Grove.
And he went on to say, we actually get a lot done at Bohemian Grove.
And it's my favorite place.
Yeah, because they have sex by night and party and get drunk and make decisions by day.
It is a beautiful area in Northern California.
One of the prettiest places on the planet.
But the issue is, we don't like you running our lives and then saying you're not.
See, once we force them to admit they are making a lot of the decisions, then we have to say, what are those decisions?
Oh, you didn't have a right to make those decisions.
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We're now six minutes into hour number two.
We have constitutional lawyers joining us, you name it, all coming up.
We're hosting right into the fourth hour, the known short of 3 p.m.
as we are on The watch of this verdict out of New York.
But I wanted to get Dr. Darren J. Beattie of revolver.news at Darren J. Beattie on X to pop in quickly before I go back to other X speakers as a former Trump advisor and also White House speechwriter and really one of the smartest guys out there about what's really going on to give his quick snapshot take on Everything they're doing to Trump is blowing up their face.
Beyond that, 20 points ahead nationally, 13 points battleground states.
What is the deep state going to do?
They're clearly planting false flags.
They're clearly promoing that there's white supremacists everywhere.
Hide under your tables.
Even though no one's buying that.
They've got J6 cops running around campaigning for Biden who's hiding in the basement.
They've hit the panic button.
And now the judge puts out this jury order that's completely illegal, saying, oh, we don't have to all agree on the crimes, just any crime you want, then just convict him on everything.
This shows total running scared desperation.
So Dr. Beattie, what is your view on what's happening right now?
I think desperation is the perfect word to describe what's going on.
And you saw it the other day with this kind of mangled PR effort, which was really probably an effort to influence the jury pool with washed up actor Robert De Niro and the other washed up actor from January 6, Michael Fanone.
And so, yes, they're desperate.
Why are they desperate?
I think that's interesting to consider.
And I'm Somewhat uncomfortable being the voice of measured optimism here, but actually I think the Democrat machine
I was guilty of a profound miscalculation here.
What is that miscalculation?
Well, you know, they had COVID in 2020.
COVID was massive for them.
The fraud on the back of COVID was massive for the Democrat machine, the mail-ins, and they had censorship.
They don't really have COVID now.
And I know there are a lot of theories, but I suspect that 2020 was a high watermark for that sort of thing.
I just don't see them being able to shove another COVID.
Pandemic type event down people's throats, not this late in the game.
I might be wrong.
I don't suspect it.
As for censorship, 2020 was also the high watermark.
Now you've had a bunch of this stuff exposed in Twitter files and probably most importantly, you have Elon Musk who's taken over Twitter.
And so, yes, there's still censorship, but it's far less than it would have been in 2020.
So the COVID style shenanigans are lower than they were in 2020.
The censorship is much lower than in 2020.
So what are they banking on now to give them that extra edge, to put it charitably?
It's the lawfare techniques.
They really thought that these sham legal cases, both civil and criminal, could function in effect as the COVID of 2024.
These joke trials We're supposed to be the COVID of 2024, and they're seeing dramatically, right in their face, undeniably, that it's just not going to work.
And in fact, it's backfired.
Not only is it not working, it's backfiring.
And it might have been one thing if they got the J6 criminal trial before the election, which they haven't been able to do.
I mean, it is interesting.
They were trotting out some J6 Actor Michael Fanone, but he's not talking about the J6 case.
He's out there talking about this stupid Stormy Daniels case that everyone recognizes is a complete joke.
So they've kind of mixed and matched here to a point that really looks awkward and clumsy.
Someone lost the plot at some point and it's just too late for them now and that's why they're panicking.
This is really kind of all that they have.
They were really counting on these trials to have an effect.
And now that they all see that that's not the case, and it's probably too late to get rid of Biden, frankly, without unsustainable collateral damage politically.
That is traditionally the case, but I think when you have someone with the obvious limitations of Biden, it could actually work in the opposite direction.
Especially the way that he's mishandled the Israel issue.
Already there's just so much pressure against him.
If he allows under his watch global chaos to erupt, and he's a leader and he can barely stand up for more than five minutes and say anything, I don't know if that traditional incumbent advantage will hold.
You know, that's maybe the only X factor they have.
Something like that.
Something that could take him off the table.
As for ace up the sleeve, you know, you never want to rule it out, but it's really hard for me to imagine.
Like, even things with COVID, these kinds of things, they require a substantial degree of advanced preparation to kind of cultivate the public conscience.
And even even if they were to try to roll one out, I just think it's too late in the game, just like it's too late for them to comfortably remove Biden and replace someone else.
It's always been a strategic problem for them because we all know nobody likes Kamala.
So they have to find a way to get rid of Biden, overstep Kamala and manage whatever kind of Uh, indignation might, uh, result.
Um, and they were again, they were banking a lot of the lawfare stuff and maybe they're gonna try to, and that's at the extracurricular level, at the retail level they're counting on ginning up the woman vote with all the pro-choice stuff, the abortion stuff, but I think those are basically the pillars of their strategy.
That's always a concern, but you know, I think the censorship issue is really crucial for that.
Twitter is less censored, and so they're not able to get away with the kind of stuff that they're used to being able to get away with.
They're so delegitimized at the moment that anything that happens, a broad swath of the general public is going to approach it with Immediate skepticism.
So I don't even know if these kind of traditional kind of false flags, you know, these last minute Hail Mary attempts that, you know, we've seen in the past.
I think even these would have a profound backfire effect on the regime at this point.
And their attacks on Trump have created the due sex effect like Han Solo coming in to save Luke Skywalker in the last, you know, moment before he fires his torpedoes at the Death Star.
I mean, that's where we are right now.
This is epic failure.
But again, if we're overconfident, as you're warning, then we're screwed.
I think that's probably good advice because it would show that Biden's the bigger guy.
It would show that Biden has more power because he's able to pardon.
And just move on from that to really lean into this and make it their strategy was a profound miscalculation, as was, I think, not getting rid of Biden at some point, maybe like a year ago.
I couldn't believe that they didn't swap out Biden.
Do you think there's any...
Connection to the question of whether Biden will be swapped out and the fact that for some reason the Democrats have scheduled the convention just 75 days before the general election.
I mean, I think with all of these things, the answer is kind of more complicated, maybe a combination of All of these factors and some factors that we haven't identified.
You know, it's one of those things.
There are so many people with a lot of money who can make a big difference on things.
And he's one of the few people with a lot of money who's actually stepped into the arena in a meaningful way.
Has he done it in a perfect way?
Of course not.
But simply the fact that someone would step into the arena and someone in his position would step into the arena with a fairly entrepreneurial approach.
You know, he's done more For censorship from the private sector than any, you know, president or elected official on our side has been able to do through the government.
So he's been entrepreneurial in that sense and bold, and he's taken a great risk in doing so, even though from our vantage point, we can find a lot of things that he hasn't done well.
He hasn't done perfectly from the broad kind of View of things, especially given the other people, you know, the other billionaires who basically do nothing or do bad things.
I think he's had a really remarkable effect on our political and cultural landscape.
And at this point for him, no matter how much he would maybe not want this to be the case, he's already got a mark on him from the standpoint of the regime.
So whether he likes it or not, His fate is somewhat intertwined with Trump's, and I think that accounts for the recent sort of collaborative activity, affinity.
There was a report in the Wall Street Journal on this.
This has been going on for a while.
He understands that, and even from the most, you know, selfish level, that his financial and business interests are much better off under Trump.
You see a man in the arena, and people sit- I mean, I'm in the arena.
I admire a man in the arena.
No, no.
Elon Musk is running the tables.
Thank God for him.
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All right, big development, not just in the Trump trial.
Michelle Obama has announced she's running for president today.
This just broke.
Here is Michelle Obama announcing her run for the presidency 2024.
Yeah, okay, okay, shut your butt.
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This shit is killing way too many of my constituents!
Chase, Alex, thanks for having me back again, guys.
It was good to see you a couple weeks ago.
And I did want to build off of the Robert De Niro thing yesterday, because I think it's really interesting that they're still trying to, in a veiled way, make the parallels of Trump and Caesar.
Because De Niro said, you know, like, if he gets back in there, he's not going to leave.
And the thing that people don't understand about Caesar, like Caesar didn't disband his troops because if he went back into the city of Rome, they were going to arrest him.
Because what happened in the late Republic, Is they would pass laws after someone served a political office to then use those laws against them and arrest that person.
So it created a really difficult time in the late Republic before it becomes an empire.
But the point I keep making that shows that De Niro is a liar is, well, Trump left office.
He said, you know, maybe I don't agree with your process.
Maybe it's a sham process, but he left office.
So, in just that, the positioning he's trying to make in people's mind, I also see it as a veiled threat, too, because I know Time Magazine read an article about this in March, where they keep trying to connect the whole Trump is Caesar thing, because at the same time, all you've got to get is one stupid person to hear that to get the idea, and then, you know, go after President Trump for that as well.
So I also see it as a veiled threat, but I don't see the...
You know, they're not equal.
They're definitely not the same, because Caesar didn't relinquish power, and Trump did.
He didn't agree with the system, but he did that.
And I think also from, I know a couple people have touched on it, but also from, there's two other aspects of it.
The first being, I know Alex had mentioned the Hegelian dialectic aspect of it.
They also can get someone to do something stupid to justify the next action they want, which might be the criminalization of conservatives or Republicans or conservative-minded libertarians, whatever it is.
It's to go after a group, right?
They have a result they want in mind.
They're just trying to cause the action to create that.
And even with this verdict and the strange way they're running it, The judge basically saying we can pick any combination of these things and if it works then we can find him guilty.
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They just want to be able to say that Trump is a felon.
Yeah, and it's interesting because, you know, they keep trying to make this comparison.
I think the major thing is people don't realize that Rome's three eras in time.
It's a kingdom first, then a republic, and then an empire.
And I think the major thing that you have to look at is that the republic phase, you know, though we are A republic by constitution, we're not a republic by function.
In 1913, a lot of the main elements of a functional republic, the Income Tax Amendment, the Federal Reserve, and then also the 17th Amendment taking away the representation... You're right, we are a private, corporate, Federal Reserve farm.
Correct, and that's exactly what's happening because the Roman state, the first thing that was killing them was inflation.
By 284 AD, they're at 15,000% inflation, so the state is crumbling.
They're bringing in all of these immigrants from the borders to fight in the Roman army because the armies weren't big enough and each emperor would raise an army to attack other emperors.
And once there's no money and the people that are serving the army don't have money to get paid, well, they don't need the state anymore.
You know, I think that the goal here is to throw Trump in jail.
I think that's what they're doing.
I think if it's run ethically, I think Trump runs away with it.
You guys were talking earlier about Michelle Obama, and Roger Stone had mentioned that to me as well, about her being the possible candidate in the future.
I just don't see Biden being the candidate.
I don't know.
I think if things aren't done the correct way, I do think the Democrats win, and I think we have a lot of work ahead of us.
Yeah, one of the things I wanted to ask you about, Jeremy, as this pertains to the comparison of Trump with Julius Caesar.
Obviously, on the top of our minds here in America, as a civilization that values freedom and tends to not like autocrats, I mean the whole country was founded in a rebellion against a king.
We think of Julius Caesar as the end of freedom, regardless of whether or not that's true.
We think of him as the first Caesar, the first dictator of Rome.
And I think the thing people don't understand is, so Julius Caesar dies in, I think it's 43 BC, but Rome is in revolution from 133 to 31 BC.
So almost 100 years of revolution.
So people are very beat up by this point in time.
They've been experiencing war for 100 years.
And there's actually a character right before Caesar that in my mind in history should get more attention and really doesn't, and that's Sulla.
Sulla is one of the, he's not the first, but he's one of the major ones to attack Rome and declare himself dictator.
He declares himself dictator for the restoration of the Republic.
and he starts this process called proscription where they put these tablets up in the forum every day and they just start killing people. You know, new names will be added every single day.
Hitler walks into this power vacuum and he's basically, he's a populist in a lot of the ways.
He becomes consul in 59 BC. Consul was, basically they have two consuls every year.
It's like having two presidents because they don't want one person to have power.
So one of the first things he does is he gives land to the retired troops so they have the ability to farm.
So he starts bringing in a lot of these things for the people, but the issue is too, in the late Republic, a lot of the guys in the Senate and in political positions were broke.
So there's this one guy, Marcus Crassus, and Marcus Crassus, he's also a member of the First Triumvirate with Caesar, but he's actually the one that was lending the money to all these politicians.
So yes, Caesar is a populist and does a lot of different things, but he's broke his entire career.
So because he always owes money to Marcus Crassus, just like a lot of the Senate.
So he makes a lot of bad decisions based on, well, if I fail at this, my career is over because I owe Crassus money and I don't have a way to get it.
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That's why we aired a promo earlier asking why are the Democrats retarded.
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Yeah, bro, it's like, it makes no sense, you know, like you said, maybe they just live in their little ivory towers, which we know is the case, but it's just, to me, these people are, you know, they might be rich, they might be wealthy, I don't think they're stupid.
They might be retarded, like you said, in all the worst of ways, you know, I think retarded people are much more intelligent than these people, but it makes no sense to me that they wouldn't just do something different.
The mentally retarded are divided into classifications, the educable, the trainable, and the custodial.
Obviously, we can only assess the abilities or potential of the mentally retarded on an individual basis.
Seemingly random motions and movements are fairly common among the custodial retarded, and they may take many forms.
Sometimes there are motions which seem to have no meaning whatever, and may even cause unintentional self-inflicted injuries.
The vast majority of the mentally retarded are intelligent enough that they can be taught a great many things.
However, there's a wide range of ability, even among those considered educable.
And their ability to learn obviously varies according to their level of intelligence.
Equally important is the stimulating environment.
However, we must remember to set realistic standards that are not too high for the individual.
Many of the trainable retarded can learn to take certain kinds of household responsibilities, some of which may be more complex than they are usually given credit for.
It would be wrong to expect a mentally retarded person to become a master craftsman.
The standards are too high.
But even in the skilled trades, for example, the mentally retarded can be trained to become valuable assistants.
Who are the mentally retarded?
They are people.
They come in both sexes and in all sizes, shapes, creeds, and colors.
Wherever people live, there also live the mentally retarded.
Speaking of the mentally retarded, here's First Lady Jill Biden, Dr. Biden, Attacks Donald Trump with a view saying he can't string a sentence together.
I think she's talking about her husband, but we can't blame her because she's mentally retarded.
Here it is!
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You know, I think, but I think that American people deserve a debate because you need to see your choices.
You need to see Trump and you need to see the President.
And you need to see the differences.
And my husband's, and you're going to see how smart he is and the experience he has.
And then you'll see somebody who, like you're saying, I'm going to use Julie's words, can't put a sentence together.
And everything is beautiful and it's wonderful.
Tremendous.
So I think you deserve, the American people deserve to see the two men who are running for this office.
By the way, for those who don't know what Bilderberg is, until 15 years ago they did not even exist and we still cover it.
It's important.
I'm doing a special Saturday show at 10 a.m.
Central with Daniel Essel on this Saturday.
Tell us about Bilderberg and then get into it.
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Yeah, absolutely.
For those that don't know, this is actually the 70th conference.
There were two that did not take place during the COVID-1984 nightmare.
But to me, this is the cream of the managerial crop.
In other words, you have people that come every year.
People like Peter Thiel are there.
His partner, Alex Karp, they run Palantir.
There was just a trade show this week on modern-day warfare, kind of like a CES for the military-industrial complex, where Karp was interviewed and basically talked about the future of Let me just read the topics that they have put down for Bilderberg down the list.
It is the state of AI, AI safety, the changing faces of biology, due to their transhumanist agenda, by the way.
What do you think they are going to do about their whole agenda falling?
Like Klaus Schwab resigning.
You've got Melinda Gates resigning.
Hundreds of major corporate resignations at big banks.
What's behind that?
unidentified
Well, let's talk about Melinda Gates because she's actually launched a new foundation.
So I think that she's just trying to get away from the negative press of her former husband.
When you talk about Klaus Schwab, he is stepping down as the head, but he will still be in a chairman's role somewhere in the background.
I think they want some rebranding.
They want to put a new face out there because the guy does talk and act like a Bond villain, but at the same time, you know, kind of talking about the World Economic Forum and possible players that are meeting that are not on the list.
So, continuing on, when looking at some of the possible players that may come in, you know, Barack Obama was there in 2008, again, as you documented, not on the list.
Last year, in Lisbon, Portugal, Yuval Noah Harari showed up, and no one talked about it.
He actually gave a lecture in Lisbon, Portugal.
You would think that he's also having meetings with some of the I agree.
What do you predict with the show trial in New York?
The only question is when and how they put him in an actual jail cell.
I remember interviewing Roger Stone, I think about a a year and a half ago and positing this and he said you know this is only going
to make him more popular. I don't know if they're going to try to pull the rug from under him obviously they want that narrative if they can take him off the
ballot in key states due to this due to some chicanery I think that that is the plan but at the same time we're in the wildest election after the wildest
election in 2020 we've ever seen. Nobody should be bored right now.
Jason Burmas, great points.
Thank you for calling.
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He walked past beggars and he said, you know, that that man is richer than I am because they don't have to pay that debt back.
And guess what?
God used him.
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By the way, let me just agree with you.
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That is fabulous.
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But let me just say congratulations on everything you've done.
And early on when the censorship started, so many people buckled.
Now that we're winning, a lot of folks have joined us, which is fine.
We're not mad at them.
We got to accept them in.
But you, day one, when everybody else was being banned, having me on, you said, I want you on because of the fact you're being banned and you got censored.
Partly because of that.
So I see that as a real, you know, sign of the real McCoy.
Yeah, I mean, this is the movie that Silicon Valley doesn't want you to see because it's a detailed case study of the censorship apparatus of the 21st century.
And you remember back in 2020, I was minding my own business.
I was a ex-banker turned podcaster inspired by Joe Rogan.
I was on Rogan Show in 13 and I was just interviewing people.
COVID hit.
And then boom, on April 6th of 2020, we had the second largest YouTube live stream in the world with my conversation with David Icke.
30 minutes later, they deleted and banned the video.
I was a darling of YouTube.
I was in their partnership program.
I'd made them millions of dollars, but that was the tip of the spear of censorship for COVID, and they tried to shut me down, shut my business down, ruin my reputation.
This movie is about us fighting back and winning, and you reached out to me.
And you heavily supported us during that time.
You gave me a lot of good advice, Alex, including asking my community to help us build the Digital Freedom Platform.
And we streamed to a million people live for that final episode as just a final kind of an up yours to big tech and showing them that we will not be silenced, we will not be censored, and we will not be stopped.
You know, a lot of people don't understand that censorship is real.
I think it's our most important fight of the generation.
And as Elon Musk says, censorship only applies to people you don't like saying things that you don't want to hear.
And he also says that once you lose freedom of speech, you never get it back.
And so I tell my personal story of exactly what happened to me in 2020.
And the truth is, Alex, is it's still happening today even worse.
Eight months ago, I was completely deplatformed from YouTube.
All seven of my channels, including my personal channel from 07 with videos of my kids on holiday, completely taken off because of the trailer for this film.
So a movie about censorship has now been censored.
YouTube is the biggest censor.
Of a generation.
And we gotta hold these people accountable.
It's a basic human right.
It's a civil right.
And it's not just happening in the Twitter files.
It's happening in every corporation in America.
And it actually starts at the top in the government.
And so we go through this entire process so people will never forget.
But something deep and down inside knew that something was being taken away from me by an organization who had no business interfering my communication with another human being that, by the way, wanted to listen to what I had to say.
Because that's the thing about freedom of speech.
It's not only my right to speak, but it's your right to listen to me and make your own opinion.
That's being denied on a regular basis.
Our big tech are our worst offenders, but so many other corporations are offending us.
And this will get worse, and once you lose it, you cannot get it back.
That's why you could be black, brown, white, Christian, Catholic, Jewish, Hindu, Buddhist, agnostic, gay, straight.
You're out there watching.
You have the real power when you promote something, when you create your own information, whether it's gardening or whether it's praying or whether it's playing a violin or a piano.
All of that is original content from you.
And what Brian said is key.
The globalists admit they want AI to control everything.
It's people like Trump and Tucker Carlson and Brian Rose.
Joe Rogan, they're just already popular and the system is scared and angry that they organically are so popular when Hollywood and the sports and all of it is failing.
The system is very jealous.
The NSA admits they're very jealous of popular people.
It's not that you're even fighting them, it's that you're doing your own thing.
And so that's why when the grassroots realizes that supporting and promoting true authentic human culture, real diversity, is like sunshine to a vampire.
Yeah, and because of everything we had prepared for for 10 years at London Real, we were in the right place at the right time, and we were able to put out that content in our studio.
And again, hundreds of millions of people watched, changed the dialogue, and David really opened a lot of people's minds.
When they knew something fundamentally was wrong, they knew they couldn't trust our mainstream media, but they didn't know why.
that sense we still need X and it's crucial in what's happening and so I just that's the thing that's the thing I'm not even trying to call David out he
calls me all the time and it won't return our emails and so he'll probably say oh I missed your emails I get it I love David but I'm saying he loves you
and you're saying Elon's doing good you I just can't look at something positive and then and then and then just say throw the baby out with the bathwater
that's my point For me, any instrument of freedom is a net positive.
You can look at Bitcoin.
Bitcoin is now being used by Wall Street executives in the ETF.
Some people say that's a corruption of this.
I disagree.
Any instrument that increases our freedom is something that we want to promote, and that's exactly what X is.
Let's not kid ourselves.
There's no way that millions of people could not watch this movie today if it wasn't because of what Elon's doing with the bold moves at X. And again, even InfoWars, so many people can now see your content because of what Elon's doing.
So yeah, I'd love to see that debate with David.
Perhaps we can agree to disagree.
We need everybody out there fighting for our freedom.
I think, personally, deep down inside, he believes in freedom of speech.
I also think he's not from this country, and when he used to think and believe and dream about America, he idealized everything that we supposedly stand for, and he wants to be a part of making that happen in the future.
Yeah, look, most people are oblivious that this is still an issue.
And I'd say to anybody out there, just wake up and realize that everything you're looking at on that mobile device is being censored in some way, shape or form.
All of your mainstream media outlets, the same thing is happening.
And you have to go deeper and find out what's going on and fight for this right because it will happen to you and it'll corrupt everything that we've been working for.
So it's an important fight.
We wanted to drop the movie to show what happened four years ago, but it's still happening today.
And again, YouTube recently deplatformed me entirely.
Thirteen years of work, a billion views, 14,000 videos, my entire life.
We're not looking for a fight, but we're getting our heads pounded in.
And as men and women, we got a certain point to say, I'm done laying down.
And that's what this story is about with Brian Rose.
Because when you start laying down, that's all you do.
And it's been good men and women that have built the good civilization.
We've been through a lot of hell, fought a lot of dictators, a lot of nasty people.
If we make it through this next struggle, I'm telling you, human potential is just unlimited.
Because I want that life extension they're suppressing.
I want it for me and my kids and my family.
So there's a lot of stuff they're suppressing, not just censoring you.
They're censoring a lot of science that we need access to.
We'll be right back.
Stay with us.
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Brian, my greatest pleasure in life, other than my wife and my children, I mean, obviously, that's number one.
You saw the NFL kicker say the best thing in life is your wife and children.
And women love their children more than anything.
And they said, how dare him?
Well, that's your father.
That's that's no brainer.
You have children.
But the second best thing is I get to know the real men and women, the real people that aren't cowards, the real people that have spirit that won't bow down.
And to me, this is where they say the journey is the destination.
This journey is amazing.
It'd be so easy.
I've been offered a lot of money, I'm sure.
I never asked you this.
I would imagine, do they give you any offers to sell it before they clamp down on you?
Maybe they knew you wouldn't sell it, so they didn't ask.
They asked me, thinking maybe I was immoral.
Is that not the most valuable thing in your life?
And can you speak to the experience of being able to meet all these incredible people?
So there we were right there at the tip of the spear and they're pushing back and I hadn't experienced that before, but when I finally asked and reached out to the people like you told me to do, then they rallied around us and they made everything possible and they allowed us to fight back.
So it's a big lesson for me, maybe for lessons for people out there.
You can't do it alone.
we all have to support each other and pushing back and if you don't think this is gonna happen to you it is they're gonna start taking away your human
rights and that's why this story is important to embrace because it's gonna happen to all of us sooner or later and so again we were really early and we
Yeah, and not to top your story, I never tell about stuff that's journalistic.
I'm mainly a pundit and give my own personal opinion, but I wear a journalist hat, so I've been invited the last four or five years.
And Roger Ailes tried to give me a Fox job, and they tried to give me Clear Channel, all that stuff, and I said no to that.
That was one level 15 years ago.
But I've been invited to some well-known billionaires' houses and they didn't try to get me to sell out.
They're actually like, hey, if you just join us, you'll have a seat at the table because this is so dangerous, but we don't even know what to do.
And I don't think that was even them with the sales job.
they're even now in the establishment understanding that the new world order plan they had is not going to work, but then it has its own inertia.
It's already been turned loose.
They don't know what to do.
I think that's why we have to understand, we're not little outsiders trying to warn the establishment or back them off.
The establishment is inherited wealth, is like a self-fulfilling prophecy or a perpetual motion machine, and a lot of the people on it don't like where it's going either.
It's not one person, it's not one directive, it's not one agency.
It's got so much momentum now that even they can't stop it.
But one thing that I learned in my fight, and you learned probably here through InfoWars, is that it only takes a small group of people, a massive what I call London Real Army around the world, to change it.
These institutions aren't as big as we think they are.
They're not as powerful as we think they are.
It just needs some people to fight back.
And that's why our movie is a story of hope, and you're an example of that.
And people need to know, we can change this narrative.
It's been a fascinating to watch and obviously this trial is a huge pivotal moment.
But regardless, it seems to just making making him more and more popular.
I live in London.
We're watching this from afar and people are trying to figure out exactly what's going on.
We also see recently an about face when it comes to the current President Biden on crypto because he saw Trump talking about crypto and it's just amazing to see Everything coming down to this election.
They clearly see so much power in him.
I worry about his safety.
I also wonder what happens in this country post-election, regardless of the result, because there's so much tension here, and there's so much riding on this single election.
Well that's my, all they've got left is expanding war, which they're trying to do with Russia, and false flags to do horrible things or wind up crazy people, like the attempted kidnapping
of Whitmer that was an FBI operation that came out in court.
That's really all they've got left.
They were planning an economic collapse, they could pose as the saviors.
They know they're going to get the blame, so they don't know what to do, but the collapse they kind of set up at the end of the old economic order, which you're an expert on,
That's coming to an end.
So they're kind of damned if they do, damned if they don't.
You're right.
Crypto is so popular and doing such a great job that they want to attack it, but then their own people own it.
I mean, it's a really schizophrenic, paradoxical moment.
I'm going to tell a story to the viewers right now because I never took college for marketing.
I never took broadcasting.
I started on AXS TV 30 years ago.
I got a local show a year later.
I got syndicated three years later.
I've been syndicated for 27 years.
But I did learn how brains work.
So if I come on air with a huge story that I've got ready and just announce it at the first show, a few million see it, it's a little blur, but it's no big deal.
But if I build it up for five days and make a big deal about it, like Searchlights, the old movie premieres, everybody cares and it has a huge effect.
So I have this thing where I want to immediately always say, next time I'm going to cover this, then I cover it right then.
Because I just want to tell you now.
But it's something very, very important to understand about dealing with this, that when people are just given something, they don't appreciate it.
I learned very early on, 27, 28 years ago, in my first film, selling coffee mugs and a newsletter like other talk shows.
I was like, how do I make more money?
Well, you know, to fund things, you put out a newsletter, put a coffee mug or t-shirt.
I said, no.
I said, I want to make films.
I want to prove what I'm saying.
Immediately, I was selling 100,000, you know, of my new films.
Suddenly, I had a bunch of money.
Not a ton, but a couple million bucks.
I was hiring crew.
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I wasn't shooting VHS anymore.
I was shooting DV cam, you know, 27 years ago.
But I noticed when I would come out with a DVD, if I put it up for pre-sale, in the two months before pre-sale, I would sell more than I sold in the year when it was available.
And so what you're doing is this purist thing of, here's my movie.
Looks like multi-million dollar budget, all these huge interviews, promoted for a year, winning all these awards, and you're like, oh by the way, it's free today.
I don't want people to sit there because something is so amazing and free and take it for granted.
I want you to appreciate we will not be silenced when this comes out today.
And when it goes on LondonRealFreedomPlatform.tv, when it's on LondonRealTV and Brian B. Rose, We're gonna stream it everywhere.
I want you to take it serious that somebody bucked the censors, kicked ass, took action, made a powerful film, and then gave it to you because he believes in you.
So there's that paradox of you give people something free they don't appreciate it.
And so we were just amazed and shocked we got all of this recognition, including Mickey Willis got recognition for his Great Awakening film at one of the same festivals, Santa Monica Film Festival, and I was surprised.
And that's why I think these leftists are in this dual moment where, you know, part of them believes that this is a fundamental right for free speech, but part of them have been conditioned that they're the party of censorship.
We have a lot of friends out there that are looking to fight for freedom, and that's a beautiful thing to see, so we're going to cover pretty much every time zone globally between our three organizations.
I want to go to some of these spaces commenters have been holding, and I've been a jerk talking so much, but I just want to say, no one can deny we're at a critical juncture in history.
Chase Geyser and then Ryan Rose, what would you call this moment in history?
And frankly, if we see what happened in the Weimar Republic in the 1920s, I think we're getting really close to that here in the United States in the 2020s, where we're going to have total hyperinflation and collapse and we're going to have to choose between Marxism or fascism or a third populist alternative.
And that's why, to me, it's more important now than ever that we pay attention, that we embrace populism, that we reject violence and hate, because if we don't create the new way, we'll go an old way, and the old ways always lead to millions dead.
And I know love is a strange word, but at the end of the movie, after all the things that Ike says about COVIDs and masks and vaccines, he says, this is about love.
And he talks about love.
And I say, David, this is what they're trying to ban.
And he said, because that's what scares them most.
When they can stop dividing us and they stop getting us to hate each other, that you're a this or a trans this or this color or that color.
When the love is there, then we're not going to go there.
And so if you ever find yourself in that fight-or-flight mode, they are in control.
So take a step back, find out where that love is.
I think the phrase for this time is The Great Awakening, which is Mickey Willis' film.
We've all seen the evidence, thanks to COVID.
Before that, nobody knew this was going on.
But now everyone has seen it, but now it takes action.
And years ago, it was David Icke and Alex Jones, not trying to credit.
I feel so good to be eclipsed.
By so many people, because that means we're winning and now freedom is so popular and there's so many great prominent, like Mickey Willis reaching hundreds of millions, you're reaching hundreds of millions.
I mean, the globalists have got their work cut out for them.
I mean, man!
I mean, Dr. Peter McCollum was on your show and he said, our team is incredible and it's getting better every day.
Yeah, so I'd say this about the Trump trial, that the key message for this is that Democrats are trying their very best to keep Trump in court forever and ever and ever and prevent him from running for the American people and spreading the message to not just voters on our side, but voters who are in the middle, independents, maybe even some people Oh yeah, that's a total green light for Marshall Law.
Yeah, they're gonna really go and shift it to, you know, people who aren't even, like, overly political, people who are just normal people who, you know, just have a day job and, you know... Oh, it's like with the Nazis, it'll be some company they want that didn't even do anything.
Those of us that are away, black, white, old, young, brown, you know, Christian, Buddhist, Jew, they're good people everywhere.
We get a little blind spot because we're so awake and the other people are.
Yeah, folks are ready to wake up but they're not fully woken up.
Right now is the time to work like...
The devil, and we're not the devil, you know what I mean, the saying, we better work hard right now to affect this and explain to people because I'm getting chills right now.
I mean, history's going down.
I mean, this is a, we have a hundred year cycles and we're in the fourth turning, but that's a, that's an easy way to say it.
We have all the AI, all these systems.
There's a quickening of a quickening.
History is accelerating and everything you do, Norm is like a pebble in the water.
It has an effect.
You're like every little thing you do is a boulder.
I was a pretty fast runner when I was in junior high before I had an injury.
I ran the mile in four minutes and 52 seconds when I was in eighth grade.
And the last lap was always the fastest.
When you're the most exhausted, that's when you double down.
This is the last lap.
The enemy isn't sleeping.
You can look up on Google Pizza Hut orders outside of intelligence offices to see the demand go up at one in the morning right before a major conflict breaks out.
They don't sleep.
And so we have to think of this as the last lap where the guy's right behind you.
Yes, we're winning, but if we slow down or turn over, look over our shoulder, they're going to blow past you.
Alright, I'm going to come back and talk about all the resignations that are happening.
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All right, Brian Rose and Chase Geisel continue on with your Spaces comments.
I am distracted.
Something I have to take care of.
I would love to be here.
The Owen Schroeder in one hour takes over with the War Room and you're going to be on there on the second hour of it when they launch.
Aviva Frye is coming up in five minutes.
The amazing lawyer to get his take on this travesty of justice with the show trial in New York.
But I wanted to just make this point about I had Dr. Kirk Elio, an economist, and he said, "Oh, there's over a thousand CEOs the
last two months resigned."
And I went, "Okay, let me search it."
I was on CNBC.
It was like 4,000 CEOs, and they were like the heads of major banks and Bill and Melinda Gates and Klaus Schwab.
It's almost as big, or maybe it's bigger, I can't quantify it, that we saw right before COVID and right before 2008.
So Brian, you're a former banker and a smart financial guy.
What do you make of record resignations that never bodes well?
You know, I honestly believe this crypto card is something that is going to change a lot of minds.
And we saw the administration do an entire 180 over the past seven days and go from Elizabeth Warren and her cronies trying to lock people up throwing crypto to basically Biden giving Gary Gensler at the SEC a green light to approve this next ETF for Ethereum.
And I think they're starting to realize that 50 million Americans own crypto and they're tired of their politicians telling them what they can do with their own money.
I am Chase Geiser, your host for the remainder of the hour.
We have Viva Frye with us, as well as the great Brian Rose, co-hosting the Alex Jones Show.
You're back in the saddle, man!
Viva, it is an honor and a pleasure to speak with you.
I have been a fan of your work for a long time, and please pardon my ignorance on these issues.
I don't know much about law.
These suits, obviously I've been following them.
I've only really gotten interested in politics extensively over the course of the last several years and my understanding of how this works out is so counterintuitive to what I'm actually seeing.
Can you just explain to me what's going on with what I'm hearing rumors of judges saying that only a certain number of members of the jury have to agree on certain charges?
I am just totally confused.
Please give me like a 101 on what the hell is going on.
I always preface this by saying I was a civil litigator in Quebec and not a criminal lawyer in America but I've managed to piece this together because you hear people saying things and you're not exactly sure what they're saying.
I saw the tweet that said the judge instructed the jury they don't have to be unanimous for a conviction and I'm like that doesn't sound right and it's a little bit more confusing than that because this is a 34 felony charge case indictment That would have otherwise been a misdemeanor that would have otherwise been
barred by the statute of limitations. And the way they got around this being a misdemeanor was by arguing that the falsification of business records was for the purposes of
covering up an underlying felony. That's how they get past the misdemeanor, statute of limitations, and make this into something insanely idiotic that it never was.
The judge tells the jury, you don't have to be unanimous on the underlying crime or the predicate act. That's what the judge is telling the jury. You can find, you have to
find unanimous conviction, that's just the basis of law. But you don't need to unanimously agree on what the underlying crime was that turned this from a misdemeanor into a felony.
But there's three underlying theories of this case that the underlying predicate act was federal elections, law violations, election interference.
Doesn't make sense because the FEC looked into this and said there's nothing there.
The other number two of the three options was tax fraud.
Although the judge said it doesn't even have to have resulted in Trump paying less taxes.
This is how absurd these instructions are.
And I forget what the third potential predicate act is.
But that's what the judge said.
You don't have to agree on the underlying predicate act crime because the prosecution has never specified what it is to the point where you have the idiots on MSNBC a couple of weeks ago saying How has the prosecution not told us what the underlying predicate act is with certainty?
So that is the confusion.
They have to be unanimous on a conviction but not unanimous on what they think the underlying predicate act was that turns this into the act that they can convict on.
You know, my mind is just going forward and I recently had Alan Dershowitz on my show and he recently came out and said it's all about the appeal and how quickly they can get that appellate decision.
So pardon me for fast forwarding to that.
Is that what Trump needs to think about immediately is how quickly he can get that appeal and how quickly is realistic?
I don't think there's going to be an appeal from what I understand that will happen before the election, if there's a conviction.
And obviously, if there's a conviction, it's by all accounts, you know, you can take a non-Republican lawyer like Jonathan Turley.
It's a foregone conclusion that this ought to be and must be overturned on appeal.
Because the misconduct by the judge, and this is Dershowitz's observations as well, is egregious.
It's over the top.
The bias is over the top.
That this was even turned into a felony indictment in the first place is questionable in law.
So I don't think they're looking for the appeal yet.
We'll see what happens if there's an actual conviction.
Um, but the instructions given to the jury, this is sort of the analogy I used yesterday, this judge can't control the findings of the jury.
There are other tools that the judge could have used to bypass the jury if he or she were not, you know, inclined to agree with the jury's findings.
You got the direct verdict is a way of bypassing it, saying we're only submitting it to a jury because it's so preposterous.
Or if the jury, it's the other way around, if the jury convicts, you can say, Judgement notwithstanding a verdict, we're overturning or overriding the jury conviction because the jury should never have rendered a conviction in a case like this.
No reasonable jury would.
This happened in the Michael Flynn partner case, Bianne Rafikian, who was convicted by a jury of FARA violations.
The judge, some will argue it was political bias, partisan bias, whatever, basically disregarded, set aside the conviction and said, no reasonable jury could have come
to this conclusion as a matter of law, so I'm bypassing, overturning the jury conviction.
There's no way the judge does this in this case, because the judge wants a conviction.
So he's got to just set up the ingredients, set up the house of cards in a way to yield the result that he wants, which is a conviction. And so these instructions are, from what
better legal minds than myself are saying, are preposterous, outlandish.
They have to agree on the underlying crime and they have to specify what that crime was.
And there's some people theorizing that the judge might try to swap out if they get an indication as to who the soul or holdout jurors are, some people are hypothesizing that the reason why the judge
did not release the alternate jurors is to potentially do something underhanded like swap out with an alternate, one of the holdout jurors if he can find a creative reason in
law to get rid of a holdout juror who is holding up the conviction.
So there's a number of things here.
It's wild, but the judge has done everything he can in terms of curating what was allowed as evidence.
Bear in mind, in his instructions, the judge said, made references to FEC violations while simultaneously prohibiting the defense from presenting an expert that would have disproven that this would have ever been a campaign contribution in the first place.
The judge systematically The judge sustained the prosecution's objections to questions asked by the defense and systematically overruled the objections made by the defense to prosecution's questions.
They allowed irrelevant testimony that was more prejudicial than probative, that being Stormy Daniels' sexy time testimony, irrelevant to the case.
Allowed that and prevented the defendants from even raising certain defenses.
So the judge has done everything in his power to curate the outcome and the only question is going to be, will this jury You know, will they cave to their political prejudice or will they stand up and uphold the Constitution?
You've catalyzed so many questions in my mind, and the macro of a 30,000 foot question I want to ask you before we get back into the specifics of this case is, how did we arrive at a place in our judicial system where this kind of thing is able to happen?
Obviously, our founding fathers, we revere them here in the United States quite a bit.
They put a bunch of protections in the Constitution that have lasted hundreds of years.
There's been a lot of entropy and erosion of our rights in the Constitution.
All in all, it's been a pretty good dam against the flood of tyranny that civilizations have a tendency to manifest.
How is it that our judicial system has gotten so crippled and broken down over the centuries that we've arrived at a place like this, where these charges can be thrown at the leading presidential candidate in these suits?
And there's dozens of charges, as I understand it.
Past statute of limitations.
I mean all the holes that you just mentioned.
There's like a hundred different reasons why this case is problematic.
How have we gotten to this point and what do we need to change about the judicial process altogether at a federal level to prevent this type of thing from happening again?
Because it's going to happen over and over again regardless of the outcome of this case.
Well, here, I'll blow your mind with a minor black pill.
It might have always been this way to some extent.
It probably got worse over the years, but it might have always been like this, but we've never known about it because they've never gone after a candidate with a bullhorn and political force behind him, such as Trump.
They've railroaded people left, right, and center throughout the history of the criminal system.
And we are now only seeing the degree to which it might have gotten more politicized, but it's always been corrupt, I imagine.
How has it gotten this politicized?
You know, I like to say, courage is contagious, but so is corruption.
And this is like the small domino creating the momentum to push over a bigger domino, a bigger one, and bigger one yet.
We've seen the inch-inch crossing the first Rubicon, and other judges get empowered by the corruption of prior judges.
When the New York nipple judge, Engeron, the guy in that ridiculous Leticia James case, the one who posted topless selfies of him to his academic club there, the website, whatever, He issued a gag order.
And then Chotkin out of D.C.
is like, well, there's a gag order here.
I forget the order.
But once one issues a gag order, unconstitutional on its face, another judge says, well, they did it in New York.
And then Merchant says, well, they did it in D.C.
And they've gotten away with the politicization and the weaponization of the legal system, where once it's done once, they broke that glass.
There is less reluctance to do it again on a going forward basis.
And there's almost political empowerment.
When one state removed Trump from the ballot, Colorado did it first, I think.
Well, look what happened after that.
It is the corruption, the contagiousness of the corruption that other corrupt forces said, well, that nutcase, I don't think it was Jenna Griswold who did it in Colorado, but she was integral there.
They did it in Colorado.
Let's go do it in Maine.
You get a Secretary of State in Maine who now says, I'm empowered by the corruption of another state.
We've seen this judicial corruption be empowered and emboldened by prior judicial corruption.
What the solution is, well, I would have said, you know, eliminate judicial immunity, but that might just punish the honest ones and not, you know, the corrupt ones will still use whatever powers they have.
Another way is get more Elise Stefanik's out there to file ethics complaints.
Like Elise Stefanik, as far as I know, is the only one who's filed an ethics complaint against Leticia James, against Judge Ngoron.
This is a judge that you have on record saying, I've got the tools to come to whatever decision I want in law effectively.
Am I making the law or am I following the law?
Well, I have tools to make the law what I want to.
So, more complaints and more impeachments.
They're threatening to impeach Eileen Cannon for enforcing the law.
Impeach Mershaw, impeach Engeron for breaking the law.
It won't happen to Engeron because he's a state court judge.
But impeach these judges, let there be political consequences to their corrupt decisions.
Well, I mean, the implications on the vote are going to be lock him up and see how much more that drives up his numbers.
Again, from what I understand, the big number everyone was throwing around is that, you know, he could be behind bars for 180 years.
It's a non-violent first-time offense.
By all accounts, he wouldn't serve any jail time.
And he'll appeal in any event, and in all likelihood, get a suspended sentence, or whatever the verdict would be of the sentence, pending appeal.
Because, say they sentence him to four months in jail or a day, if he serves that time before the appeal is heard, well then the appeal becomes basically academic.
And they did it with Bannon.
They did it with a bunch of other people.
But the bottom line, They don't need him to go to jail, although I wouldn't be surprised if Merchant orders him to jail as a sentence if he's convicted for a day.
Something nominal?
Something logistically feasible?
They just want the conviction.
They want to be able to say he is a convicted felon, even if it gets overturned by appeal in a year and a half time, because in inconceivable he gets convicted, sentenced, and the appeal is heard and a judgment rendered on it between now and November, in my view, but I don't know.
But they don't care about anything other than the title of convicted felon.
They've got their title of rapist now.
And they got it through yet another corrupt judge.
This is in the E. Jean Carroll case.
Another case where they changed the law so they could facilitate a... Am I allowed swearing on your channel?
A bat poop crazy lady, E. Jean Carroll, to sue Donald Trump for 25-year-old claims because they passed a piece of legislation that opened a one-year window to file a civil complaint that exceeded the statute of limitations.
In that case, even though Trump was found not liable for rape, Judge Kaplan, who oddly enough has the same last name as the attorney for E. Jean Carroll Kaplan, He rendered in one of his judgments that says, yeah, technically under the law, he didn't rape her.
But that's only because New York state law is so strict as to what the definition of rape is.
But technically he raped her.
Colloquially speaking, he raped her.
So it's accurate to say he raped her.
And they ran with that headline.
All they want- It's so dirty, it's beyond the realm.
It's beyond the Rubicon.
They haven't just crossed the Rubicon, they've crossed it.
They took down their pants and they left a steaming turd in it.
They have no respect for the system.
They clamor about upholding the Constitution while desecrating it.
And this judge, Literally circumvented the jury finding that said he was not liable for rape, or the jury found him not liable, no to that question.
And bastardized in one of his judgments, but yes, technically he did.
So anybody who says that he's a rapist can say that he's a rapist.
All they want is the label, convicted felon, so that Joe Biden can- It's like a meme.
Yeah, meme it.
Just repeat it.
It'll replace extreme MAGA Republicans.
It's just for the label.
I don't think they care about actual imprisonment, and there's a whole slew of constitutional questions about imprisonment.
But maybe they'll put him on house arrest at Mar-a-Lago, and then sick the FBI for another raid.
It's an all or nothing in this case because they are all, they're iterations of the same underlying act.
So this is how preposterous it is.
They needed the number 34 indictment, 34 felony indictments so they could run with the, he's now facing a total of 81 indictment charges and so they can have the grabbing headline, the big number.
34 felony charge indictment on the basis that entering the description in the ledgers was one felony.
So they go from January, February, March, April, whatever it is.
I don't know how you get to 34.
That's the idea.
So there is no way, it's not like one of these charges is wildly different.
Then all the others.
It's sort of an all or nothing deal.
He either structured the payment that way, but that's the other question.
This is one, let's just call it one scheme if it's nothing else.
And I don't think it's an illegal scheme, it's just this is the entries in the books.
It's one payment to Stormy Daniels that they're saying he broke up over six months, whatever.
And that there was basically entry, check, retainer, whatever.
It's, I mean, that's it.
They've turned it into 34 charges for one and the same basically overall act.
How do you do that?
Who knows if that withstands appeal?
I mean, so the same act on a monthly basis as part of the scheme turns into 34 charges with a maximum of 180 years in prison.
It's insanity, but that's what it is.
So I don't think there's any reasonable interpretation that could allow the jury to say, we'll find him guilty on signing the check, but not entering it in the ledgers.
It's all part of the same thing.
So all or nothing.
I predicted it's going to be all, but the longer this goes, looks like a hung jury.
OK, so the Maya, I said I predicted before the trial he was going to get convicted as a foregone conclusion.
Because I also thought they wouldn't screw this up so badly, or as badly as they did.
After having listened, or tweeted, or followed the trial via tweets, I believe there's an increased likelihood for a hung jury, so long as you have just a couple of reasonable people on the jury who said, I'm not gonna sell my soul to the devil for this.
So I'll say, random number, 87% conviction, although I think he's gonna get convicted.
The question was, other trials that are coming up in the meantime.
I don't think that there's any more trials that have a reasonable chance of being heard before November.
RICO and Georgia is on hold pretty much indefinitely.
The Georgia Court of Appeal is going to hear the appeal on Scott McAfee's refusal to disqualify Fannie.
So that is not going to be, you're not going to have anything done before November.
Florida doesn't look like it's going anywhere except for downhill for Jack Smith.
DC is the only other one where maybe you're going to get a trial, but bear in mind also we're waiting on the immunity decision from the Supreme Court, which could put a wrench in all of these, including the New York case, because a lot of the acts, signing off on the checks and the structure of the payment yada, occurred after Trump was president, and there could be some immunity issues as relates to those actions as well, for which he might get convicted.
So I don't think there's any other reasonable trial that gets heard before November.
And I talked about this with Robert Barnes on our Sunday show.
It looks like that's coming down the pike.
And Barnes, whose brain is much bigger than mine, and I enjoy picking it all the time, he had the interesting observation that he suspects the immunity decision is coming down imminently, and that it's gonna be very bad for the left or for the TDS folk
out there who want Trump out at all costs, which is why we're seeing this vitriolic attack I think it has to be rendered by the end of the month of June.
So we will get that decision in this session of the Supreme Court.
And that's going to be the question.
of the issuance of that decision. So interesting theory on that. I think it has to be, I'm looking at my calendar, I think it has to be rendered by the end of the month of June.
So we will get that decision in this session of the Supreme Court. And that's going to be the question. There's no question they're going to recognize some immunity in my view.
I don't think it's going to go so far as my theory is, unless he's impeached and convicted, you can't go after him for that act after he's out of office.
That's where I think it should go, but we'll see if it gets that far or if, you know, a couple of the judges take it that far.
But he will get some immunity.
And then the only question is going to be what's going to be the impact of that recognition of immunity on what he's being charged with in Georgia, in D.C.
So I've got to ask you, we had a fascinating conversation with Darren Beattie at the beginning of the show today where The hypothesis was put forward that this was supposed to be the pandemic 2.0.
So the pandemic was a major advantage for the left during the 2020 cycle.
And this was going to be the advantage for the left in this 2024 cycle with these massive amounts of lawsuits brought against Trump, lawfare, litigation.
What have you.
It seems to have backfired.
Do you believe that they just miscalculated the way that this was going to backfire in the eyes of the American people?
Is this part of some strategy that I just don't understand?
I mean, what is going on here in the eyes and minds of the leftists behind it as far as the way that the people of America who are going to vote are responding?
Is there some 5D chess that they're planning after all of this fails.
This is how... I cannot think this deviously myself.
I didn't put together why they were pulling out the term insurrection immediately after January 6th.
Like the day of, they were calling it an insurrection.
I didn't know the law as relates to insurrection and keeping someone off the ballot if they participated or aided an insurrection.
So I don't know when they when I believe January 6th was a fedsurrection, a let it happen on purpose or made it happen on purpose.
I believe that and anybody who disagrees with me entitled to their belief, but they're wrong.
Whether or not they planned that so they could say, we're going to have this, we're going to call it an insurrection, whether or not they lined it up all at the beginning, I don't know.
Whether or not they just think, well, here's where we are, this is where the chess pieces lie, what's the next best move that we can do?
Oh, we got a big riot, let's call it an insurrection and let's try to impeach him again.
Oh, and if the impeachment fails, let's try to get him off the ballots in two or three years time.
I think they make the best of the circumstances as they currently lie.
But they played the pandemic perfectly because they changed the rules yet again for an election.
I think it's hubris at this point.
I don't think Judge Marchand understands what he looks like.
Maybe he does because you can't be that lacking insight, but it's hubris, it's arrogance, and it's stupidity above all else.
The only question is, they've gone from Impeachment a second time to insurrection to try to remove him from the ballot to try to lock him up to try to bankrupt into New York.
What there is only one next step that they can go to and they're showing their cards by trying to pass that disgrace act to strip convicted federal officers of Secret Service protection because they're trying to set something up like what I believe they tried to set up with the FBI raiding Mar-a-Lago and potentially resulting in an armed incident with Secret Service.
That's the next step.
And I don't like to think about it, but I don't know where they could go from here.
They've exhausted all venues, and they're all backfiring wildly.
Well, Viva, it's been an honor and a pleasure to have you on the Alex Jones Show.
Thank you for joining us again.
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So Brian was telling me a little bit of his story before this segment during the break we were hanging out.
He was telling me he just got inspired by Joe Rogan and started a regular old podcast.
He was doing Joe Rogan-esque stuff until he got Censored, basically because the government through the BBC was pressuring YouTube.
Seems like a familiar story these days.
And my question for you is, do you think if Rogan, at the key time that he had the Spotify deal for however many hundreds of millions of dollars, I don't know if it's even been officially reported what the real number is, do you think if he hadn't gotten that Spotify deal that the same thing would have happened to him that happened to you?
Yeah, it's an interesting question because I was following this space very closely because we were getting censored and then ultimately de-platformed from YouTube in 20 and 21 and I was watching what Rogan was doing and you know he started flirting with these issues about a year later is when he jumped in the fight around 21.
and YouTube was still clamping down on us.
We had to create a separate platform.
That's that digital freedom platform.
And we had to stream over there.
YouTube even threatened at one point that my content on my website
might get me de-platformed on YouTube, a bit like that whole Patreon effect.
And so they didn't even know what they were talking about.
Actually, they contradicted themselves at one point, which was interesting.
They said, oh, anything against the W.H.O.
is not allowed on the platform.
And I don't know if you remember early on, but early on, the W.H.O.
said not to wear masks.
And the mayor of New York had said to wear masks.
And I said to the rep, I said, so you're going to deplatform the mayor of New York?
And he just got quiet.
Now later, Mike Benz would laugh at me and he said, Brian, from the top in the government, they first sent out a mandate saying, do this, and then they changed it on them.
So you could see YouTube reacting to that.
But to get to your question, when Rogan went to Spotify, it shot a huge missile across the bow of YouTube and said, look, here's a major creator, a major influencer, that is depopulating your entire platform of all of his content and going to a place that is not censoring him You better really look at what you're going to do.
And so we noticed YouTube relaxing their policies against us and we could get a little more content under the radar.
And then that all changed, strangely, at the end of last year.
You know, I had a conversation with a brilliant man, Ron Coleman.
He's a brilliant free speech activist and attorney and expert.
He has a famous case.
Where he represented a band called The Slants.
You can follow Ron Coleman on X and look into all those details.
I encourage you to do so.
But when I was talking to him about censorship on my small podcast way before the InfoWars days for me, he mentioned how bizarre some of the policies were around censorship for YouTube like it didn't make sense that they would have these
policies unless they were feeling pressure from somewhere else and we've gotten to a point here where whether it's YouTube or Twitter before it was
owned by Elon Musk or Facebook or these other publicly traded companies especially the ones with boards they seem to be the most easily compromised
because you just get you just buy it you get the board in there and then you can totally control the company and it's famously Apple fired Steve Jobs
erroneously because they had a stupid board that was compromised but these companies have gotten to a point where
They're so big and there's so much pressure from the government that they clearly make decisions that are not in the best interest of their shareholders.
You mentioned that you made millions of dollars for YouTube over the years in the amount of ad views simply from people viewing your content.
Joe Rogan, same thing.
Do you really think at this point that they actually care about millions of dollars when they're worth trillions?
Where does the financial pressure actually apply when they're looking on the other side of the pressure from the federal government?
Yeah, so look, when this happened in early 20, I went down the rabbit hole and said, why would YouTube care if I talked about a mask or a vaccine or social distancing?
And someone said, oh, they have a part interest in a vaccine company.
I never bought that.
And of course, it took many years later for me to realize, thanks to the Twitter files and the work of Mike Benz, that the government was ultimately telling them what to do.
Now, I'm not absolving YouTube of this because you can.
Exactly, and again, it shouldn't have worked at Twitter, and that's what they did.
But I didn't understand that they were being pushed around by forces bigger than them.
Now, if you would have talked about that at the time, then you're considered a conspiracy theorist.
And so there's a point in the movie where I'm getting deplatformed by PayPal, they're suspending my balances, their Dropbox is... Are they still holding your money, PayPal?
And again... When you're trying to violate the First Amendment rights of your people through a private organization, it's still a violation of First Amendment rights.
And the thing is, Chase, when I brought this up, everybody told me, oh, YouTube is a private corporation and you signed up for their community policy, so you're subject to their laws.
When I went to the government and said, wait a second, they're violating Article 17 of the European Union.
They're violating these things.
They said, oh, that's your business with a private company.
As you just stated, little did I know they were going behind my back and pressuring those same corporations to violate the rights that they were sworn to protect.
So, you know, it reminds me, we've seen a lot of reports about antitrust lawsuits that are coming out, and Elizabeth Warren famously says, By the way, I want to thank my husband for being here in my kitchen.
We've seen this lawsuit come out against Live Nation in the last couple weeks.
I don't know if you heard about that, but Live Nation sells tickets and apparently it's a monopoly because they buy all the tickets for major concerts like Taylor Swift concerts and then they mark them up because they're the ones with all the tickets and it's considered an antitrust violation.
It's considered a monopoly, right?
And so we see the government threatening to break up Big Tech, threatening to break up the Facebooks and the Googles, the Elizabeth Warrens, the Bernie Sanders, the others.
And then they go out and they just decide, bizarrely, to flex against a concert ticket sales company.
It seems like they do these cases.
Just so they can prove or establish precedence and show these other big tech companies that they're not screwing around when they're threatening antitrust.
And when you have that level of threat and power over a private company, whether it's YouTube, Facebook or others, then they're going to do what you say.
Like, hey, we want you to have a meeting once a month with the CIA, you know, disinformation expert that we have.
You're going to do it because You got all of the Senators and Representatives talking about breaking up your company, and you see lawsuits against Live Nations.
I mean, that seems like fascism to me, where the federal government is actually controlling private business.
I think leftist crypto is a backroom deal with Biden so she can take over in power.
And when they threaten these big tech companies, first of all, I wonder if they can really fight back again.
These things are more powerful than governments, and I think you need a figure like a Trump that could come in here and say, "Guess what?
We are literally going to make you open the books, and we're going to find out if you've been violating our citizens' rights, and we're going to end it once and for all."
If you look at what the Democrats are doing with this TikTok bill, this TikTok bill is actually a way to ruin your privacy.
And they're going to use this to make it so where they can actually go in and get your data and also censor these other tech platforms.
And so it all looks like a show when I see what they're doing.
And I don't know if these individual members are powerful enough.
You do need someone, I think like a Trump, that could come in and just level the playing field
or more investigation and maybe even a congressional hearing but this has to end and with AI
and all these other technologies, it's only gonna get worse.
You know, you mentioned cryptocurrencies and I'm not somebody who's invested in cryptocurrencies
'cause I read The Richest Man in Babylon and I don't believe in investing in things
I don't understand, right?
So I think it's probably a good investment, but I don't understand it so I don't invest in it.
I'm not knocking it, right?
But it seems to me there's so many bizarre things about cryptocurrency and I don't mean to use the word bizarre with a negative connotation.
So like I said, I'm not knocking it.
It seems like an amazing technology.
But there are so many variables and things around it that are fascinating to me.
This Satoshi Nakamoto comes out with Bitcoin seemingly out of nowhere.
It blows up and it has a critical mass of users to prove the concept of blockchain technology as an alternative monetary system, a processing system, right?
Fascinating, amazing technology.
I think it's Elon Musk.
Anyway.
Point I want to make is, it seems to me that just as the CBDC is going to be blockchain backed to exact control, I mean this is the same technology but used for the opposite purpose of the technology that's behind Bitcoin.
It seems to me that in order for a CBDC to be effective, and when I mean effective, I mean effective in the sense that the New World Order can use it to control all transactions and all humanity, that it cannot exist in the context of Bitcoin or other cryptocurrency alternatives.
So if they want to enact and actually institute a CBDC, aren't they going to have to like really cram down and criminalize Bitcoin and other alternative currencies?
Because everybody would just choose the free currency.
So we went heavy in the space and what I like about the space is you have people that believe in freedom because they believe that property ownership, in this case digital ownership, Yeah.
is really important.
I'm good friends with Tim Kennedy, he's at Green Beret, lives right around here, and he believes in guns.
And when I had him on my show, he said, "Brian, I like my gun because that means
Because if a government can take away my money, seize my bank account, or print more fiat currency, it can control me.
But if they can't get my Bitcoin in custody, ultimately I can tell them where to go because they don't own me.
That's why when we talk about these, you know, universal basic incomes and all these scenarios, I look at people like they must be out of their minds because the money will control you.
Bitcoin's interesting.
You mentioned Satoshi Nakamoto.
I've had people that come on my show that said it was created by the CIA.
It's probably the most odd.
Created by Elon.
The point is that now it doesn't matter because you're 13, 14 years in.
It's the biggest supercomputer in the world.
It's actually 1,500 times bigger than the biggest supercomputer, the Bitcoin network.
It's worth $1.5 trillion.
unidentified
And if you Are the nodes diversified enough or is China bought too many of them?
strike. You show up to a protest, you get your bank account seized. They can't take away your self-custody crypto. So, just to finally answer your question, if you are allowed
to hold crypto, and it's very hard to ban Bitcoin. Every time China bans Bitcoin, it goes up in price. CBDCs are a whole other world. If we allow those to happen.
And again, they're going to find all these benefits.
Get your tax return in minutes with CBDCs.
You know, get these benefits.
But if they can censor your money at a moment's notice, if they can look and say, no, no, no, your tax return can't be used to buy that.
Oh, you donated that?
We're going to restrict your freedoms.
That's super dangerous.
And that's why I'm pro-Bitcoin, and I'm even pro-financial institutions like BlackRock promoting Bitcoin, because they're promoting an instrument of freedom.
Well, being pro-what they promote is not the same thing as being pro-those organizations, too.
You have to separate the art from the artist.
You know, as you were talking, it made me think of John Locke famously wrote Second Treaties of Government.
I don't want to get too academic and boring, but...
That document, that philosophy, is really the foundation and the basis of our entire economic system and our entire nation, its constitution, its principles, as they were set up in the late 18th century, early 19th century.
And what he basically said in that book, it's like 80 pages long, it's a little dry because it was written hundreds of years ago, but what he basically said was philosophically We are created by God, and since we are created by God, our bodies are our own private property, and our minds are our own private property, and our will is our own private property.
And therefore, anything that we do with our minds, our body, and our will is by extension our private property, because we did it with that which was given us exclusively by God.
And that is the whole entire basis for the concept of inalienable rights, that they're not given to you, by governments. They may be recognized or not recognized by governments, but these rights aren't
given to you by governments, they're given to you by your creator. And that's why it's so important that there is some sort of a deistic philosophy of a people, because as
soon as a people doesn't believe in God, then there is no philosophical argument for rights anymore.
Everything else is just politics.
I don't know where I was going with that from a question standpoint.
Yeah, I just got some chills up my spine because I literally had a huge player in the blockchain space.
His name is Yatsu, big in the Metaverse space, who literally gave me the same quote in my studio two months ago.
And it was him making the same point that you made, that it's our God-given human right to own what we create from our hands.
And that now includes the digital things that we create.
And without property ownership, you don't have capitalism and you don't have freedoms.
And I think a lot of kids these days, and I say that in a nice way, my stepdaughter's going to university right now, they don't understand these fundamental foundations of why we have the beliefs we do.
And I'm really glad you read things like Locke.
Because they can throw around, you know, Marxism and Communism and wear pictures of Shay, but they don't realize what they're saying.
And you have to look deeply, like, what do we truly believe?
Do you believe that what I create I own?
That's fundamental.
But it's interesting that you just quoted back to me the same line that was mentioned from someone who's in this digital space, asserting that if we don't control these things, we're gonna lose out.
And I'll say one more thing.
Sure.
In the world of Web 2, as we call it, Facebook, YouTube, Amazon, We call it digital colonialism.
We've given away our data and now they sell it back to us.
Just like the British Empire used to do to the governments of Africa and India.
We need to take back our rights and say this is our data.
When you own your data, you have your freedoms.
When you give it away and someone else steals it from you, they have your freedoms.
And that's what happened to me with YouTube.
They owned my data and they took it away like that.
with Web3, I will own the data, I will own my digital assets,
and then no one can take it away.
So it's actually extremely relevant right now, this ownership concept that we're talking about.
You know, you brought something up that really inspires this question.
So you're not the only person who's been censored on YouTube,
and even those of us who still have YouTube channels, if we post, they reach no one for whatever reason,
especially if they're about controversial content.
Even if you have hundreds of thousands or millions of subscribers now,
it is really difficult to get views.
I mean, I have, on my YouTube channel, which I haven't even posted on
since I started working here, really, I've got close to 30,000 subscribers.
I think if I post a video, it might get 70 views, you know, which is bizarre.
You'd think it would get like a couple thousand, at least 10% of my subscribers.
Now, the point I'm trying to make is, how were you able to recover
from the censorship of YouTube?
I mean, this is the behemoth of the room.
This is the monopoly of video content, video broadcasting, if you want to talk about monopolies.
How were you able, since you didn't own your data, to bounce back and create your own platform in a meaningful way so that you had an audience that mattered enough to fund your operation and to get your word out in a meaningful way?
So first of all, you make a great point about YouTube, and there's a short piece in the film where we talk about the way that YouTube controls creators.
What they do first, is if you're a bad boy or a bad girl, is they demonetize you.
So they take away your money.
Most YouTubers, and I've been down to the headquarters back in the day, they live on YouTube revenues.
We never did.
We always found other ways to make money.
And so that usually will get you back in step.
If that doesn't get you to start behaving, they then take out your search.
So your views drop.
So now no one's watching your video.
And every creator lives to be watched.
And so if that doesn't get the effect, then the next one will.
If that doesn't, then they start to take them down.
And then, of course, you get content strikes.
And if you continue to misbehave, they take down your channel.
That works for 99.9% of the people out there.
And here's the beautiful thing, Chase, is people start to self-censor.
During those times people would use these fake words or they'd spell it backwards and so you start, and people did this socially, you start not talking about things that has ramifications.
That's dangerous in itself.
But then there's the final level where they'll just completely make an example of you.
So we tried to walk a fine line of keeping our YouTube channel on and keeping our viewers engaged and then also pushing them to the Digital Freedom Platform.
That worked great until September of last year when they decided just to end everything for us.
Remind everybody where they can find you and tell the audience a little bit about what type of content to expect on your platform in addition to just the We Will Not Be Silenced film, which obviously we're pushing today.
We're really promoting it.
We believe in it and we're excited about it.
We're going to be airing it.
But what is your platform all about?
Just for the sake of the audience understanding what they're going to expect when they Yeah, definitely.
Website is londonreal.tv forward slash movie is gonna have everything there.
We continue to broadcast and there's a point at the end of the movie where I say We will not be silenced, we will not be censored, and we will not be stopped.
And if you need inspiration, all you have to do is look at InfoWars and Alex Jones.
I mean, he was deplatformed in 18, and as he told me later, he got bigger.
And so we continue to publish across any platform possible.
We use guerrilla tactics to get our messages out there.
These days, I will talk to people that want to talk about vaccines, that want to talk about crypto, that want to talk about the war in Ukraine.
That want to talk about anything, diabetes and their solutions, anything that I think is interesting.
And a lot of those things aren't popular with these digital platforms.
But we just continue to having these conversations.
You know, censorship and cancellation, it always happens to the weirdo.
It always happens to that person over there on the fringe.
Until it happens to you.
And that's my story.
You know, I was living a normal life.
I was broadcasting and podcasting.
I was putting out videos that literally changed people's lives and saved people's lives.
I was applauded for this.
And then one day when I decided to have David Icke on my show and ask questions about what was going on during the pandemic, we were deplatformed and of course later banned and censored and nearly ruined.
And so I want everyone to know that this can happen to you.
And if we are not vigilant about protecting our right to free speech, Then we're going to lose everything.
And it can be taken away so quickly.
And they are actively trying to do it right now.
And right now, everything you watch and do is censored.
This is important information and it's being used for the agenda of someone else.
And we need to be aware of that.
Think about how they control you.
They use fear.
They try to divide us.
They try to use anger.
When they're doing that, you can't think correctly.
Try to find a way.
Look deep into your heart.
Try to think about what's really right.
Your rights.
Your ownership rights.
Your freedom of speech.
If we can't protect our freedom, we have no future.
Not only in this country, in the world.
I'm pro-human, just like Elon.
I'm on Team Human.
I want us to win, but it's going to require all of us.
So please, watch this film, share it with others, and take an active part in your community.
Well, Brian Rose, it has been an honor and a pleasure to have you on the Alex Jones Show.
Make sure you check him out, LondonReal.tv, at LondonRealTV and at Brian B. Rose.
His film, We Will Not Be Silenced, airs in an hour basically everywhere that we are here at InfoWars as well as the places that I just mentioned to you.
It is a shocking insight into the Orwellian world of online censorship.
Make sure you stay tuned, folks.
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