Alex Jones discusses how multinational corporations are openly censoring nationalists, patriots and
conservatives, with movies like "Hunters" promoting violence against Trump supporters. He claims
that Sacha Baron Cohen of the ADL has called for the arrest of tech heads if they do not submit to
their will, and he criticizes the globalist agenda and the lack of action taken by President Trump
in this area. Jones also mentions the importance of free speech and the First Amendment, arguing
that those who seek to destroy it are closer to being Nazis than Americans themselves. The speaker
is addressing concerns about the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) and Jeffrey Epstein's death. They
argue that people should educate themselves on the history of the ADL and recommend reading an
analysis by the LaRouche Group from 1993 called "The Ugly Truth About the ADL". The speaker also
claims that Epstein did not kill himself, pointing to his connections with powerful individuals and
accusing authorities of a cover-up. They mention Jeffrey Epstein's plane, Lolita Express, which had
padded floors and no secret service presence. The speaker ends by emphasizing the need for truth
amidst these controversies. Alex Jones discusses the ADL's attempts to censor him and other
conservatives by partnering with big tech companies. He criticizes the ADL for wanting to arrest
those who disagree with them, take their jobs and bank accounts. Jones argues that groups like the
ADL use terms like "anti-Semite" as weapons against their enemies and are a supremacist organization
that bullies and attacks him. He also mentions that the Southern Poverty Law Center is just as bad.
Jones warns that this is extremely dangerous and it needs to stop, while emphasizing that America
won't roll over like 1917 Russia. InfoWars is facing multiple lawsuits and demonization from the
mainstream media. The organization has been targeted by left-wing groups such as the ADL due to its
opposition of the New World Order agenda. Alex Jones encourages supporters to take advantage of the
Black Friday specials in order to help keep InfoWars on air and continue expanding their reach.
James O'Keefe, a former Google employee turned journalist, discusses
So, multinational corporations are openly censoring nationalists, patriots, Christians, pre-marketers, just common sense folks that want unity and freedom.
Americans.
All they fund, race war, social division, dozens of TV shows and movies a month coming out where white people are hunted down and murdered.
CNN says if you believe in the nation existing, you're a Nazi.
True authoritarianism is here, it's making its move against the country.
And yes, President Trump in many ways is doing a good job opposing it, but he's not defending the people from this type of garbage.
He came out and exposed the hunt and said it's designed to get people killed in mass.
They didn't release the film, didn't censor it, just pointed out it was going to get mass killings going.
So now they've just got all these other movies coming out basically under the same name with Two's hunting down the evil Christians, I guess.
That's the show.
We just broke down the articles up on Infowars.com.
New Amazon show features white people wearing red mega hats being hunted as Nazis.
Series starts Al Pacino.
there's numerous similarities to the hunt including the name of it
and that's just so sick And then the left says we're calling for violence when they're the quote anti-fascist funded by the most famous living fascist who worked directly for Hitler.
You know him as George Soros.
You cannot make up the magnitude of that.
Jason in Texas, you're on the air.
Welcome.
unidentified
Alex, how does it feel to be public enemy number one?
You know, I'm just promoting Americana and Unity, so I get called a Nazi that needs to be silenced, and then they've got all these TV shows and movies saying I need to be murdered.
unidentified
I think that there's a delicious irony to the fact that Sacha Baron Cohen is with the ADL calling for the arrest of the tech heads when they were complicit with Infowars being deplatformed.
It's really a voice of the populist liberty movement.
And the globalists want to shut us down so they can then speak for us and say horrible things in our name once they've stolen our identity.
That's what censorship is really about.
Stealing the identity.
That's why it's critical we stay on air so they can't steal our identity.
unidentified
Well, they want to shut InfoWars down because InfoWars has been targeting and relentlessly hammering the enemy with the truth.
We've been broadcasting that message out there to wake up all these individuals that really are falling for this nonsense that they're putting out there.
And all of this narrative that they're putting out there against the President, against Americana, against freedom of choice and self-determination, and InfoWars has been a thorn in their side, and that's why they want to get rid of you, and that is exactly why InfoWars is not going to quit.
We're going to support you.
You have the support of all the listeners out there and all the pitchers that are actively engaged in doing something in this fight.
So, the hunt was coming out a few months ago and it was where the left kidnaps people wearing
Make America Great Again hats and takes them out to a farm and hunts them.
Well, Folks knew that was going to cause mass shootings, and so they didn't release the film.
But now they've released Hunters, where anyone wearing Make America Great Again hats are really secretly Nazis, and get hunted down and killed by Antifa.
This is what Hollywood's pushing, while running around saying, oh, we're not violent, we're not bad.
Totally insane.
What resembles the Nazis is the ADL, the Southern Poverty Law Center, on the left in this country.
And now we have Sacha Baron Cohen speaking for the ADL coming out and saying, arrest the heads of Big Tech if they don't give us total control over what they're doing.
He said, it's only the beginning what's been done to Alex Jones.
We want them totally destroyed.
And the ADL's out there saying, fire Stephen Miller, saying he's a white supremacist.
Totally insane.
And you say that doesn't make sense.
Well, to the zombie followers, They believe that.
Now, the ADL and Southern Provincial Law Center knows full well they're liars.
And they look completely freaked out while they're out there saying it.
I mean, they're being directed in order to do this.
I shot a very important video, ADL launches hostile takeover against Silicon Valley Big Six.
It's at newswars.com and band.video.
Please spread it.
It's really an imperative emergency message.
Get it out there.
Everything we do is important, but this is paramount.
Because this is what the next phase is.
And it has to be opposed.
Legally and lawfully.
Because America is not the Nazis.
And the First Amendment is not Nazi.
People trying to destroy it are authoritarian and are closer to Nazis than anybody in this country.
And are dangerous.
The globalists are upset that Trump's in there and that they haven't fully brought the country down.
And now?
They want a civil war, and they're pushing for one, and Trump sits there and allows this to take place when it's all illegal.
That's Trump's greatest failing, is nothing's been done to stop this, or to stand up against this.
Oh, we're told on the 9th now.
For sure, the Inspector General report comes out, and we're now hearing about FBI agents that falsified reports about Russia connections.
Okay.
I want to see indictments.
I want to see them now.
Because the groups creating this hate hoax are trying to ride it towards total control over communications in this country and then a purge, close quote, imprisonment and purges of those that don't submit to the left's will.
Sacha Baron Cohen, who made his money off of doing the most obscene stuff you can imagine in this free country, now says The ADL will decide.
And they already run Big Tech.
I have the articles.
Right here.
We'll cover it.
Bottom of the hour.
I'm going to go back to your phone calls right now.
But YouTube to censor controversial content.
ADL on board for running the flagging.
But that's not enough.
Now he wants total control.
We're going to your phone calls.
Please don't forget that it's your financial support that keeps us on air, keeps the reporters on the ground.
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That's why staying on air is so critical.
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That scares these monsters on the globalist left, funded by the Chi-Coms and others.
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But of course a globalist takeover of the country is going to try to brand the resistance as Nazis.
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So much more to get into, but this is really a draconian time.
Why is it that the screeching, wicked left is so scared of us?
Because they know, folks, that we're fighting the racism and the cultural division they're pushing.
They know we're the real classical liberals.
They're the vicious, satanic left.
We're exposing their pedophile rings.
That's all coming down.
So they're very scared.
And they should be, because revelation of the truth is bringing them down.
They are falling right now.
They're hoping to start a violent civil war because we're intellectually winning.
That's why we need to be non-violent.
Offensively, but protect ourselves as well and be ready to be watching your back because this is a very serious time.
And that's not done from a racist perspective or anything.
That's done, you know, from the LaRouche Group.
That's a very diverse and good folks.
That's why the enemy was so scared of them.
And I remember reading that review a long time ago.
Tell us what's in the review, and then we'll come back and have you speak of it more.
unidentified
Well, you know, it gets into the history of Bernard Barrett as well.
So, you know, I can see how a lot of people might I don't get the feeling of anti-Semitism or whatever else you'd like to call it, but, you know, truth is truth.
I don't prescribe to this anti-Jewish rhetoric or whatever else, but there are factions within all of, you know, all of different cultures, you know, that have these extremist groups that align.
And they use the divide-and-conquer tactics.
They divide us, you know, race.
They divide us on our ideas.
And as you pointed out, it's building to this ultimately dividing conquer tactic that leads to smart city, full on control grid type stuff.
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Leading a frontal assault on the lies of the New World Order, it's Alex Jones.
Live from Austin, Texas, broadcasting worldwide, it's Alex Jones.
So those of us that are politically informed see the Southern Providence Law Center, the ADL, CNN, MSNBC.
Saying that Trump's a Nazi, and Stephen Miller's a Nazi, and Alex Jones is a Nazi, and there's Nazis everywhere, and Trump's killing children in cages.
None of it's true.
And we just go, that's insane.
But the average zombie absolutely believes all of that, ladies and gentlemen.
And then the ADL and others go out and give speeches and say, we want to arrest the big tech heads.
They're not doing enough.
We want to just totally shut down Alex Jones.
And we want to purge them.
So there's your headline.
The ADL is working with big tech to spy on Americans for coming purge.
They want to arrest us.
Their words.
They want to imprison us.
They want to take our jobs, our bank accounts.
I mean, this sounds like Hitler.
That's what authoritarians do to groups they're targeting.
And it's like a bad dream.
I think I've got all these clips that I'd seen last year and this year that I've never even played on air.
Awards ceremonies for the ADL.
Gives awards to Tim Cook for taking me off the internet.
And it's like hour-long speeches about how I'm evil.
They'll go, extremist Nazis and others like Jones.
They go, and others like Jones.
And they've gotten, they've tapped into what I do.
They know who I am.
They know damn well none of that's true.
It's precisely because I don't want division, and I'm a nationalist, that they hate me.
Because people like me, Hispanics, blacks, white, old, young, Asian, Jewish, if you want freedom, I'm all for you.
And I know there's diverse groups in every group.
I refuse to be tricked by the ADL to hate Jews, so the ADL gets more Jews that are scared running up underneath their wings.
This is akin to declassified cases where early on Israel would bomb its own facilities in different parts of the world to get Jews to move to Israel.
That doesn't mean that I'm against Israel itself, they had different administrations.
Some groups did that, some didn't, just like we've had evil governments here.
LBJ was a really evil guy, Trump I don't think is.
So I'm sophisticated.
But I gotta tell ya, If you're Jewish, particularly, you need to contact the ADL and tell them they need to stop in your name.
They say they speak for you, saying they want to arrest big tech heads because they're not doing enough, like Mark Zuckerberg, when he's totally censoring everybody.
And that they want to purge people.
These are quotes.
How would you like people saying, purge you?
See, it's Sacha Baron Cohen that goes around saying, throw the Jew down the well so my country can be free.
Hey Sasha, you're not even from the U.S.
Can't my country be free?
You're free to lie about me and say I'm a Nazi, buddy.
It's really great to hear that, you know, you're talking about these kinds of issues.
I know it's a very hot-button topic, but I mean, this really is what it comes down to.
Groups like the ADL have been using terms like anti-Semite as a weapon against their enemies.
It used to be that an anti-Semite was someone that hated Jews.
And now it really seems like it's turning into someone that Jews don't like.
They've partnered with D-Lab at the University of California in Berkeley, and they've created this online hate index, which was instrumental in getting your platform taken down.
And they have a long history of collaboration with people like Jewish criminal Meyer Lansky and Moe Dalet.
They actually awarded Moe Dalet the Torches of Liberty Award in 1982.
And it's really, really scary to see what these people are doing.
And there's a guy who's been writing about this for a very long time.
His name is E. Michael Jones, and I think that you need to talk to him.
All I know is I just want to promote freedom, Americana, the Bill of Rights, and I don't try to get into this group or that group.
But when you've got the ADL saying Stephen Miller is a white supremacist and all this crap, fire him in the New York Times, and lying about me and then giving people awards to take me off online.
Now they're saying arrest the big tech heads, purge me.
That's a quote.
Purge!
Purge!
And just smiling like a demon up there.
It's like, what the hell?
I'm an American now cornered by people that want my guns, my kids, everything.
And they insist on labeling me as a Nazi so they can dehumanize me.
And it's just, it's nothing but a supremist organization, a race-based supremacy organization that's literally bullying me and attacking me and then wanting me to attack them so they can say, oh look, Jews, give us money.
Look, see, they don't like you because you're Jewish because this criminal group is representing Jews.
It's disgusting.
And the Southern Poverty Law Center is just as bad, and CNN, all of it.
But particularly, it's right here in their own documents.
The ADL is at the heart of, and now they want the NRA shut down.
And now they want our bank accounts.
And we have to stand up and say, Hollywood, all of this is insane.
All these TV shows where conservatives are bad and groups go out and kill them.
It's very, very dangerous and it's craziness.
It's crazy megalomania by the ADL and it's not going to end well.
It needs to stop right now.
Because I'm not scared of the ADL.
I'm scared for the ADL.
I really am.
Because this is extremely dangerous.
And when push comes to shove, ladies and gentlemen, America's not going to roll over like 1917 Russia to take it in a keister.
It's not going to happen.
We'll be right back.
Stay with us.
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Leading a frontal assault on the lies of the New World Order, it's Alex Jones.
Leading a frontal assault on the lies of the New World Order, it's Alex Jones.
Well, Zach Voorhees has been called by other engineers that have gone public, the biggest whistleblower ever from Google.
And I remember when he was here, I don't know, three, four months ago, he was getting into the fact that the ADL is right at the heart of the censorship push, actually inside Google spying on what you do.
And they got caught breaking in police stations back in the 80s and 90s and got in a lot of trouble.
They lost a bunch of big $10 million lawsuits, calling people Nazis that weren't.
But now, through puppet organizations and things, they've basically launched this whole big push to call Trump a Nazi, myself a Nazi, to produce all these TV shows and movies, like The Hunt, or now The Hunters, where you hunt down the Trump supporters and kill them because they're all Nazis.
I mean, the Nazis were loser, weirdo, crazy people, and that were from Germany and got their ass kicked by America.
I'm not accepting this identity the ADL's putting on me.
And in groveling on the ground here, I'm a classical liberal.
That doesn't mean a modern liberal.
I believe in America.
And so Zach Voorhees is here with us.
He heard me talking about this and said, hey, I'm trying to get to town a month ago.
He couldn't do it.
He said, hey, I'd like to come to town now and speak about this.
We have loaded phones.
We'll take your calls right into the fourth hour as well today.
But you have to understand something.
He, Sacha Baron Cohen admittedly was reading off a teleprompter.
These are things the ADL has said.
It's also what's in the documents.
But to have him saying, last Thursday, I didn't learn about it until Friday, at their big event, that we're going to arrest the big six tech heads if they don't do exactly what we say, he tells them.
I mean, it's very authoritarian.
People overuse Hitler.
This was very Hitlerian.
You're going to do what we say or we're going to arrest you.
And then he went on to say we're going to purge off the internet These people, and he said Trump, he said Breitbart, Alex Jones, and then they're in the New York Times that very day saying, purge Stephen Miller.
He's a white supremacist.
Give me a break.
He's a conservative Jewish guy that loves America, and he's trying to unify us around America.
So it really is like the ADL really goes after Prager and Miller, Jews that don't.
I guess nationalists or right-wing Jews, great people, also seem to be folks they don't like.
I know they don't like Levin and others on Fox.
So everybody knows I'm not against Jews.
Jews are diverse groups.
But the ADL is a very nasty organization, again, founded to protect the pedophile, and founded to protect the Jewish mafia.
And they've made it their mission to, quote, purge me.
So they're saying, purge me, that means destroy me, pogrom, like Hitler did to Jews, and I'm just like, I'm sorry, I'm not going to play the part of Hitler, and I'm not here for you to destroy me, just because you're, you know, Hillary lost.
I saw that Google had partnered with the ADL in order to create an online hate index where they would go through and identify all the different places on the internet that were contributing to hateful speech.
And, you know, what they think is hateful speech are things like 9-11 Truths.
They think that white rights are, you know, places where hate fosters.
You know, whenever they talk about Holocaust denial, I always wonder, are they talking about the Armenian Holocaust, which the ADL denied until, like, 2016?
By the way, NewsGuard has hired the ADL and they're allowed to go into your private accounts, when you have accounts with Microsoft, and read what you're saying.
They admit this.
So the ADL is in your computer!
Hell, who needs the NSA when you've got Sacha Baron Cohen in there making sure you're a good person?
Let's go to the next clip.
Here he is saying, arrest the big tech heads if they don't fully submit to him.
So hiring a bunch of ADL to run things isn't enough.
Let's play a little bit of the awards ceremony of the ADL last December with Tim Cook with him going, oh, thanks for getting Alex Jones, who's such a hero.
He uses ambiguous terms and phrases, like good judgment and the innate desire to separate right from wrong, without actually giving right and wrong any clear definition.
My friends, if we can't be clear on moral questions like these, then we've got big problems.
Sure, Tim.
Clarity is absolutely needed for us to understand why you think viewpoint discrimination is actually a good thing.
The trouble is, every time we ask you, you give unclear answers like this one.
Why?
Because it's the right thing to do.
It's the same type of answer you gave that vice reporter, too.
But at what point were you like, okay, that's it, Alex Jones has to go?
You know, I don't want to get into a singular kind of event, but I think there's enough there that reasonable people could agree that if you're going to curate, That should be all.
You know, reasonable people who understand the difference between right and wrong.
The trouble is, every single injustice committed in human history was done by people who viewed themselves as reasonable in pursuit of a greater good.
Take your pick in the lottery of human injustice, from the communist breadlines to the fascist concentration camps.
The people behind these atrocities believed they were good and reasonable.
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Leading a frontal assault on the lies of the New World Order.
All right, I know we've got loaded phones with James and Chase and Carlos and Andy and Jefferson and Phil and Dee.
We'll get to all of you pretty quick, and then we'll get into all these clips and the analysis that Zach Voorhees is really smart, former Google insider, is going to lay out for us.
But the reason this is so big is the ADL is right at the center of big tech inside, interfaced.
That's confirmed.
That's not a deny.
Spying on what you're doing.
And Microsoft has hired them and others.
And it'd be one thing if they were spying on Nazis illegally.
That'd be illegal and I'd be against it.
They're doing it to everybody and then calling us Nazis.
And it's so dangerous.
It's so crazy.
And it's going to piss a lot of people off.
And I've let it run down my back like a duck when they do all of this, but I want to go back to the clip with that reporter breaking down last December, I never even talked about this at the time, when the ADL gave an award to Tim Cook for censoring yours truly.
Let's play a few more minutes of that.
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Defamation League organized around combating hate symbols like Pepe the Frog, making sure your Starbucks coffee
is neither too hot nor too racist until they get kicked out for being pro-Israel and pro-cop,
and lecturing other Jews about what Jew jokes they're allowed to make, if any.
Yes, that ADL gave Tim Cook recognition for his fantastic and supposedly humanitarian work
against the fundamental human right of free speech.
But Apple's a private company.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get it.
I'm not saying Apple must host InfoWars.
I'm just saying I don't accept the idea that censorship efforts are moral, virtuous, or heroic.
Anyway, this thing is called the Courage Against Hate Award.
The first of its kind from the ADL.
Though I'm surprised they didn't give themselves the award for their own courage against hate, disabling the ratings and comments on the video of the presentation.
ADL CEO Jonathan Greenblatt introduces Tim Cook, specifically praising him for banning Alex Jones off of Apple platforms.
Apple was the first company to remove Alex Jones' hateful, anti-government, conspiratorial rants from their platform.
As well as standing up to racism.
When he saw racism, he told his employees that he would not stand for it.
Racism does not represent our values, he said.
Discrimination based on race doesn't represent our values.
We much prefer discrimination based on viewpoint.
Tim has advocated for equal treatment for all.
Yeah, except for Alex Jones, who doesn't count in the definition of all, because we disagree with him.
I'm incredibly excited about our next speaker, who I know will not only add spark to our conversation, I am certain he will inspire us.
Well, thank God.
If there's one person who could actually make Tim Cook look like an exciting spark, it's this dude.
The major quote from Tim that's getting a lot of play is this one.
He says that his company has a moral obligation to combat so-called hate, and to ignore that obligation would be sinful.
I believe the most sacred thing that each of us is given is our judgment, our morality, our own innate desire to separate right from wrong.
Choosing to set that responsibility aside at a moment of trial is a sin.
Setting aside the implied idea that political censorship is righteous, I disagree fully.
I think that efforts to silence viewpoints you don't like are one of the most fundamentally unjust aggressions you can take against your fellow man.
But beyond that, What's frustrating is Tim Cook has no coherent explanation for what this moral imperative he's describing actually means.
He just uses ambiguous terms and phrases like good judgment and the innate desire to separate right from wrong.
I'm really impressed, and I meant to get this guy on, I learned about him over two years ago, Matt Christensen, and he wasn't even going to be a public speaker until he was going to Evergreen College.
And he just saw the incredible brainwashing and tyranny, and they were teaching that whites were inherently of the devil, and he's a white liberal, and he's like, that's really racist and crazy.
I mean, it's the hijacking of true liberalism, Thomas Jefferson ideas that the authoritarian left fears and wants to get rid of.
It's simply insane.
So I'm gonna get back to our guest and your calls.
It's just that Tim Cook The Communist Party of China, going back five years ago, would say, if you just pay people a dollar a day more, they won't have their kids living on the street.
They'd chain them up to power poles outside Foxconn, and they won't have suicide nets and 18-hour workdays.
Just pay them a dollar a day more, and we'll give you a better contract.
So the Communists asked Apple to be nicer, and they said no.
So I said, you know, just because Tim Cook lives and is gay, doesn't mean he gets to be a monster.
He's all about the moralness.
Oh, the most sacred thing is the moralness.
I don't care that Tim Cooks likes guys.
It's that the fake actor, because he has sex with dudes, now he can run death camps in China and go to the ADL and get sickening awards.
I mean, you know, they would make Martin Luther King turn in his grave, where we're now judging people based on the color of their skin and not the content of their character.
Which is why we need to oppose this with every living fiber of our body and reverse it because the thing is is that you think that it's coming in to like protect a minority class.
No, it's a Trojan horse.
For implementing a genocidal-like regime that's going to come in.
Because if you can't talk and say, you know, the things that are really on your mind, then what they're going to do is they're going to take away your livelihood, they're going to deplatform you, and then they're going to... But I mean, it's blowing up in their face.
And I'm noticing right now that Barry Krischer, the guy who got Jeffrey Epstein off from Sex with Minors and Prostitution, he was given the ADL's Jury Prudence Award.
And it's just like, why are they covering for this prosecutor?
I mean, the good thing is that, you know, if someone's pushing a projected consensus, then the way to break the spell is to just, you just need a minority of people to say the truth.
Well, it's like them saying men can have babies and all this.
It's meant to make you just accept.
And then an Asian woman who's pro-Israel, married to a Jew, says, I believe campuses should have free speech, and she's fired and called a Nazi by conservative groups.
And it's going to have the byproduct of making a bunch of people turn into what the ADL is saying they are, which is what the ADL wants, because then when there's pushback to Jews in general, all that money will float into the ADL.
The ADL is setting Jews up for persecution, just like they did in World War II.
They worked with Hitler.
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I don't want to see him kissing goblins, ingratiating goblins, in bed with a goblin.
I don't want to see him kissing goblins, succubus with goblins, ingratiating goblins, in bed with a goblin.
I don't want to see him kissing goblins, ingratiating goblins, in bed with a goblin.
And what it is is people that are too Machiavelli, they don't stand for something, so they just are into all this craziness and always fighting with each other for power, instead of just building, and then you have power.
I mean, that's really what this is, just mental sickness.
It's insanity is what it is.
unidentified
Yeah, and what's sad now, nowadays, is the mentally weak that are usually the ones that benefit from being so smart.
Yeah, and AOC was an actor, an actress, and she was brought on by a group that was looking for people to run in New York.
And the company that, you know, hired her admitted in a documentary that they had done this, and that she was just someone that they pulled out through a whole filtering process, and they injected her into... A literal puppet!
A literal puppet.
Yeah, with an audition.
That's AOC.
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Yeah, there's things you don't hear on other news that You only hear here.
That's the reason I've been listening for the past 10 years.
And I'll tell somebody, Hey, you need to listen to Alex Jones.
Oh, that conspiracy theorist.
And I'm like, you know, the CIA invented that so people wouldn't question what's really going on.
And I mean, that's the reason I'm such an ardent fan.
And, you know, I don't really care what anybody thinks, because The truth will come to light.
I mean, it says it in the good books, so I think we should all take heed to it, you know?
The thing is, is that you're talking about the truth.
And the thing is, is that Jeffrey Epstein's about to be exposed as an intelligence front that was blackmailing people.
And the thing is, is that if there's anyone that's American first, they're going to be talking about that.
And so the thing is, is that they're making a big push right now to get rid of people like you and other channels because they want to shut down the damaging information that's about to come out.
I don't really... I mean, I've confirmed with folks that knew who he was and worked around him that he was triple agents, CIA, MI6, and Mossad, and that they were all... and it was a very high level group where those all nest together.
And because we have morals compared to other countries, we've had incredible wealth.
So, because we have morals, corrupt groups come in and they manipulate us.
Through our morals, to hate ourselves, and then go to them, the moral authority, the leftists, to let them tell us how to live our lives, hand our children over to them, and submit.
Zach Voorhees is a big Google whistleblower.
He's here with us.
And I want to go back to calls.
Bottom of the hour, we'll get into your presentation.
But before we go to calls, spend a few minutes on... I mean, we're not just saying this.
It's on record that the ADL is inside Big Tech with Google, in people's accounts, spying on everyone.
This is all admitted.
It's an outrageous scandal.
They also work with Microsoft and NewsGuard.
and all these other organizations and are running this huge ideological purge against
Americans and persecuting people.
And now they say in an ADL speech we're going to arrest the big tech and they don't fully
submit to us.
So big tech better watch out.
The minute they try to get rid of Section 230 and bring in these folks on board with
the Southern Poverty Law Center and other globalist organizations.
Yeah, you know, and the thing is that the ADL is actually proud that they're trying to censor the whole internet.
They brag about it.
The video that I'm going to show later on is going to show them in their own words talking about how they're going to censor the internet and where all the hate speech is.
The ADL is a libel and defamation laundering operation.
They take conspiracy theories against people that they don't like, and they flood them in and legitimize them, like against you Alex, and then they make their way into the Wikipedia, and then that becomes, um, you know, a stand-in for fact and truth.
And then what happens is- That's right, they write the script that the media then picks up and then defames you with, and then they call- and then they say, you're defaming them.
Yeah, you know, we've been getting a lawsuit ready on it and things, and I mean, it's a secret credit score that the banks have, that the ADL runs through a group called G2 in Boston.
Like, she's Jewish, and the thing is, is that she's been slandered as a... Well, what she is, is she's a nationalist patriot and loves America, and she gets in leftist faces and is effective.
And what I found is the ADL particularly hates conservative nationalist Jews.
I don't want to, like, get my words, like, mixed up.
But the thing is, is that they use this to reinforce whatever justification they want to be able to... And it's like I have nothing to do with what Hitler did.
Like, the ADL comes to you and says, hey, we're writing some bad stuff.
Do you want this to go away?
How about you make a donation to our organization?
Like, that happened with YouTube's largest video producer, PewDiePie.
You know, and he ended up, you know, capitulating, and then, you know, saying, I'm going to donate $50,000 to the ADL.
But something amazing happened when that happened.
The whole internet said, why?
What are you doing?
And it was such a commotion, because now it's known that the ADL is this slandering operation, that PewDiePie did the amazing step of retracting his $50,000.
I have an idea, and I'll talk fast because I'm fascinated by your host and I know other people are waiting, but for your 360 win, I have another layer for that if people are interested.
I know that all the Info Warriors are really generous giving people.
During the year, as well as and especially at holiday time, I try to give extra to nonprofit
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Oh my gosh, I never even talk about how we have those little gift certificates, and then they also come to InfoWars, so in the process you're waking them up when people go to redeem it.
That's a great idea.
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Yeah, and also, you know, like, yeah, they become aware of InfoWars.
And then to the side, which is also important to people in this economic, you know, situation that some of us are in, that when the nonprofit receives a gift, they usually write a letter to the person who's giving it to them, acknowledging a tax-deductible gift, a donation to the nonprofit.
So if it all works like one, two, three, four, everybody wins.
Anything you want to add about the massive purge of free speech and the ADL saying they want to arrest Mark Zuckerberg and the heads of Big Tech if they don't submit to them?
unidentified
I am thrilled that you are bringing all that information to us.
I agree with everything you said and Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself.
Yeah, so today, right now on TheDailyMail.com, Prince Andrew's friend Ghislaine Maxwell is set to come out of hiding and speak to the FBI about her connection to pedophile Jeffrey Epstein.
People don't realize that Ehud Barak started a political party about a year and a half ago, before the elections, actually because he saw the opportunity of settling peace with the Palestinians, which he had started with Clinton.
And when Ehud Barak began this political party, seeing that Netanyahu wouldn't be able to do so, And President Trump was coming in with a deal of the century.
He tried to set up a political party.
At this point, Durrett and Barak have said this, that Netanyahu probably was behind the release of those photographs involving Epstein, was to discredit him so that he wouldn't have a chance to get re-elected.
Now, as it stands right now, President Trump has given so much to Israel with regards to the deal of the century.
Netanyahu has to pay up. So Netanyahu cannot really become Prime Minister again
because he will be asked to perform and deliver on the deal of the century.
And obviously many people in Israel in the high places don't want to give one
single inch of their territory to the Palestinians.
When they talk, listen, President Trump had better be very, very careful because the Red Terror, this is in history, this is documented, the Red Terror is coming to America and he better watch out because if he doesn't begin to address it, he will be facing He's re-elected, of course, and there's every indication that he may not be, for many reasons.
We won't go into that today.
But the point is that if he doesn't watch out, this has happened before.
You just have to talk to people like Putin, who knows all about the Red Terror and how it was instigated, and how other people suffered because of it.
I mean, they're trying to prep us for what's going to happen, and they're trying to institute it, but they're not going to succeed, because right now, political correctness is ending throughout the country.
People are ripping off the mask, and that freedom of speech is trying to be restored, which is why the ADL is trying to combat that.
And trying to censor people, because the political correctness is just melting, the chains are breaking free, and the true information and history is now emerging again.
I just don't know what the ADL thinks, or the Southern Poverty Law Center, or these crazy universities that the attendance at all these universities is going down like 50% the last five years with the brainwashing.
But there are a bunch of leftists using our openness and goodness against us, that if they tell us we're Nazis and we don't get on our knees and service them, well guess what?
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Well, ladies and gentlemen, Attorney General William Barr says the death of Epstein was a perfect storm.
And now we can just forget about it and stop asking questions.
You see, the two jail guards fell asleep and that's all that happened, so you need to go back to sleep.
Except they got rid of the regular guards that day and brought in new ones.
The lights turned off, the camera failed.
Epstein said to his lawyers and family, they're trying to murder me.
They'd already tried to kill him in one jail cell.
People around the cell heard him fight for his life and beg for his life.
But he was running child kidnapping rings, not just the underage girls, for the Clintons, for the deep state, for British intelligence, for the CIA, for Mossad, in a huge network.
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Now we've still got, because you have 20 phone lines, callers have been holding for over an hour.
I want to get to some of the callers been holding the longest.
So the next three segments you can get to your big presentation.
Briefly tell folks, Zach Voorhees, what's coming up when you go through all these clips you've got.
And what they're just trying to do is they're just trying to, you know... So imagine if the NSA was in your accounts doing that.
It'd be a huge congressional investigation.
It's illegal.
But I mean, they admit NewsGuard, that's Microsoft and others.
It's even in the news that this consortium... Your phone's behind there.
This consortium of people that are doing this from the Southern Poverty Law Center, ADL, and other groups literally have access and are even monitoring your private messages.
Yeah, like that's what it turned out with Facebook is that they were allowing, I think, Netflix to like spy on the messages that you were sending to your friends in order to like... They're all doing it.
Well, just everybody saying Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself everywhere shows how everyone could take other messages and go viral, like, hey, Infowars.com lives.
That would really upset them.
Again, they really want this operation shut down because of guests like this and this great crew out here that's doing an incredible job.
Let's go to who's been on the longest here.
Let's go ahead and go to Andy in Florida.
Thank you, Andy.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Hey, Alex.
I love you, man.
We love you.
Before I go ahead and talk about the topic at hand, I've got to talk about one of your products.
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Well, see, Adderall makes you, to be honest, my wife hated me on it.
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Well, you know, I mean, I've tried to tell the crew, you know, I made a plan to keep operations going, keep people on air, keep resisting.
But see, they want to kill my name first, they want to assassinate my character, then capture who I am, and then basically take me off air and put me in prison.
So that's the plan.
The platformers shut us down, then put me in prison, and then say things in my name.
All these TV shows, all these movies where they admit it's an Alex Jones character, they don't want me there to counter it.
So they want me to be a new emoji, basically, a new icon that says horrible things.
In the name of the American people, and that decision's been made, and so they're attempting, they believe archetypally, that they could destroy me, and they're the ones that made all this weird metaphysical decisions.
I didn't think I was that important, but they definitely think the spirit that InfoWars is has to be shut down, captured, imprisoned, and then they're gonna try to misrepresent it.
Yeah, like when they take someone down, it's a process which involves getting rid of the periphery nodes in the network, because there's always a network of individuals when they're trying to take someone down.
You try to get rid of the people on the outside periphery and move inwards.
Alex, you're like in the middle of it right now.
They're gunning for you, and I thank you for everything that you do in getting the truth out there, and we're going to keep fighting to bring this truth out to you and this very important information.
And it's been a journey that I have been honored and privileged to be a part of.
And I was thinking about how far it's come since 2016 in the election of President Trump to where we are now.
And I'm just thinking about the impact, the censorship, all the news that we've uncovered years before everybody else, but also knowing the threat that free speech is under and knowing the threat that InfoWars has right now by the globalists, by the Democrats, by the deep state, by Hollywood, by all these people that want us off air.
And so I was kind of thinking, how can I get the audience to understand this on a personal level?
And I realized that if you just look at where InfoWars was at 2015 to 16, and now 2019 to 20, we can take a look at where InfoWars was and is, and where it should be going or can be going.
So, what did InfoWars do in 2015 and 2016 that was so important?
Well, the story is, in 2016, that was the moment That Infowars, this audience, Alex Jones, our team of reporters were pretty much solidified in American history and were pretty much certified as now the most powerful and influential name in news.
And before they could pretend like it didn't exist, before they could just cast us off, before they could just ignore us and demonize us, but then in 2016 we got Trump elected.
This audience, this platform.
Literally the one I'm standing on right here.
Because if you flash back the clocks, folks, you'll remember most Fox News hosts, if not all of them, were not pro-Trump.
The average conservative out there that's selling Trump gear or the average conservative ink person that's stumping for Trump now was not a Trump supporter back then.
Because the Republican Party didn't want Trump, the mainstream news didn't want Trump.
So it was this audience, it was the people that share these links, the people that tune in, the people that call in, the people that are red-pilled, the people that are quote-unquote woke to the government corruption, knew it came from both sides.
We got Trump elected, that solidified InfoWars as influential, effective, and victorious.
And so this sent the Democrats, the mainstream media, the globalists into a total panic.
And that's why they've thus tried to keep InfoWars off of all platforms.
But you see, 2016 was the demarcation line where InfoWars was influential, successful, and there is nothing they can do about it except shut us down.
So that's where InfoWars was at, had a victory.
Now InfoWars is at a different point.
We've already solidified ourselves as influential, impactful, moving into the future.
Now the next challenge is to solidify ourselves as bigger than the establishment.
Free speech, bigger than the establishment.
The truth, bigger than the establishment.
And that's Literally only possible with your support at InfoWarsStore.com, because just like, can we get Trump over the hump and the Republican nomination so that he can beat Hillary Clinton with InfoWars and this audience pushing him to the finish line?
The answer was yes.
Now the question is, can InfoWars survive as a news organization with all the lawsuits, the demonization, the lies, the attacks, the censorship?
Can we survive and still be on air and expand and be more effective than ever despite all the attacks they have against us?
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[Music]
Leading a frontal assault on the lies of the New World Order.
Alex Jones here live on this Monday, November 24th edition.
But that's not Alex Jones sitting in my chair.
That's Rob Dew.
All right, one of the great info lawyers here in the office.
And he's the news director.
That means he does more work to most people, but everybody does a great job here.
And he was working on something this weekend.
I forgot he was working on it, but he wants to premiere it here.
Then we'll continue into the next hour.
I'll do 30 minutes more with Zach Voorhees, the Google whistleblower, will go through his presentation and then the great Charles Salente will take over.
But, my buddy is here!
And so tell us, you've got your own Jeffrey Epstein angle here, you're also an established, you know, quite a musician, so tell us about this little cultural thought crime offering that's not going to make the Deep State too happy.
No, it's definitely not, and I want to say this was a Total Info Wars production.
I contacted Don, he's playing drums, John Bowne's playing guitar, and Derek is playing the bass and I'm singing, and I wrote this song in about a day and a half.
And I contacted my buddy who has a studio down the road, and we went and recorded it last night.
Yeah, I'm usually playing, but this time I'm singing, I'm fronting it, I've got some crazed, it's crazed, it's definitely crazed, I'll say that.
But, you know, I got sick of hearing that, oh, you know, and then Bill Barr came out and put Bill Barr in the song, because, well, he showed it didn't really happen.
I don't care what he says, man.
Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself, and that's the tagline.
Well, obviously, you know, I kind of like the angle that they smuggled him out because he was an intelligence asset, and I can totally believe that at this point.
But definitely, the guy didn't kill himself, the ADL attack.
So it's funny, they get him out, and now the ADL's attacking you with Sacha Baron Cohen, who's a guy who just runs around.
It's funny, it's like, there's this guy, Jones, he makes Jew joke after Jew joke after Jew joke after Jew joke, and then one day, someone else makes a Jew joke around him, and he goes, hey man, that's a Jew joke.
Don't go to their level because the ADL wants to say, oh by the way, we're Jewish.
We're going to take your rights and lock you up in jail.
You're all Nazis.
America sucks.
Those people don't represent anybody but the globalists, just like the Southern Poverty Law Center and CNN, MSNBC.
These are just a bunch of really, you know, nasty people that think you're stupid and think that they can bully you to accept their globalist agenda or they're going to call you a Nazi.
Well look, 16 million views is to Alex Jones Returns, which is almost more than all the other ones, except for there's a new... Yeah, no, look at that.
I don't think... I think that's the most viewed, even though it's like 8th or 9th down.