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Big Brother, Mainstream Media, Government Cover-Ups.
You want answers?
Well, so does he.
He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
Welcome ladies and gentlemen, welcome and thank you for joining us today.
We're going to be live for the next four hours on this live Monday edition the 28th day of July 2008.
We've got Dr. Stan Monteith popping in in one hour for 30 minutes to talk about the amazing interview he did with Lindsey Williams, who worked in the oil fields and has really leaked a lot of key information that turned out to be very accurate about the oil companies.
And we're also lining up Lindsey Williams.
He'll probably be on today, if not today, tomorrow.
But I wanted to get Dr. Stan Monteith concerning the report he broke last week with Williams, who's been death-threatened and claims that he is going to soon suspend
Doing interviews.
We're going to see if we can get him on before he does that.
I don't know why you would quit doing radio interviews and shut down your website, which he's done, over death threats.
I don't understand it.
I mean, I get death threats all the time.
I've been physically attacked.
I've had all sorts of things go on that just, you know, people calling up my wife saying, the little dog's in the backyard, you're in a little white house, I'm watching you right now, you went to the store today, you effing bitch, I'm gonna cut your throat.
I mean, you know, that's the kind of things that have happened over the years, and my wife never backed down.
In fact, she was getting death threats when she was my girlfriend.
And because she instinctively realizes this stuff doesn't go away if you give in to threats.
It doesn't go away.
You have to go in, through, and beyond the New World Order.
You have to fully commit to it.
I'm not knocking Lindsey Williams.
We support him.
It's this intimidation business.
Once they figured out that I wasn't going to back down after I'd physically been attacked by four hired thugs after all sorts of other things had happened,
Once that had taken place, the enemy realized, I am never shutting up.
They can kill me today.
I will never shut up.
I will never back down.
I will never surrender.
For a lot of people out there who haven't been tested by the fire yet, you know, they still question, oh, you know, is there a new world order, despite the fact that Barack Obama was calling for it from Berlin last week?
A lot of you are still in denial, despite the fact everything we've talked about is real.
Well, let me tell you, when you get visits
From the FBI.
When you get visits from the Secret Service.
When you get all sorts of other things happening to you over the years.
Or when you pull up in a parking lot and Special Forces guys jump out and run over and threaten you to your face.
Oh yeah, that happened to me nine years ago.
When things like that happen, and when they let you know that they'll kill you whenever they want, then you realize just how real this is.
This is as real as it gets, ladies and gentlemen.
The New World Order is attacking every single one of you right now financially.
They're destroying our treasury.
They are annihilating our currency.
They have debased our industrial capacity down to almost nothing.
1 in 40 homes is in foreclosure.
Ford and General Motors are preparing to collapse, according to Bloomberg and other major publications.
The New World Order has engineered all of this, as we told you they would when we got the IMF and World Bank documents that were leaked in 2002.
They are raping you.
I told you three months ago that oil would peak out at 145 a barrel.
It did exactly that.
In fact, it went up to $1.49 and then it would then drop down to about $1.20 a barrel until next summer when it will go to $200 a barrel.
They do this each year.
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Drop it back down to $1.75 and they run it up to $2.50.
Then they drop it back down to $2.00.
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Then they drop it down to $2.50.
Then they run it up to $3.50.
Then they drop it down to $2.75.
Then they run it up to $4.50 a gallon.
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Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
I want to open the phones up in this first hour at 1-800-259-9231.
We want to discuss the impeachment hearings of last Friday that turned out better than we thought.
The chairman and Mr. Conyers and of course Mr. Smith tried to frustrate things as best they could.
I want to discuss all the new economic developments that are unfolding.
Or the fact that the Miami Herald reported that Bin Laden's bodyguard, right-hand man, was picked up by special forces and then ordered release by the Pentagon.
Just one of thousands of CIA operatives working under al-Qaeda cover that accidentally have been picked up and released.
More than 6,000 according to the Times of London.
I mean, all of this major news unfolding.
I'm getting a lot of emails, in fact I'm getting hundreds a day, phone calls, people showing up at the office, and that's fine and dandy, saying, are you going to have some type of anti-war, anti-attack on Iran event, 9-11 truth event for the first responders?
And I am not going to give you the answer to that until Wednesday at noon.
And Wednesday at noon I will give you the answer to that.
Okay?
I mean, I know the answer now.
But Wednesday, I will... I want to fully nail some things down, and I'm just going to leave it at that.
I'm not going to... I'm not going to let the cat out of the bag, as they say, because I want to be doubly, triply, quadruple sure of some of the things that we're going to be discussing here on air.
I will let you know if it's going to be happening, give you some ballpark about when it's going to be happening, uh, Wednesday, if it is going to indeed happen.
With Willie Nelson.
How did this, uh, start?
I had wanted to get Willie Nelson on last week to
We're good to go.
And I called Willie up, uh, meant to have him on Thursday, and he said, no, let's just do it Wednesday.
So he came on the day.
I called him, you heard it, for an hour.
And, uh, then a caller called in and said, why don't you have some type of 9-11 truth slash anti-war rally?
Willie said, I'd do that in a minute.
So I talked to him privately the next day and then the day after that.
And, uh, Saturday I got my answer, I'll just leave it at that, from Willie.
And so, uh,
Now, there's just so much involved with it.
I will let you know what's going on Wednesday here on the radio show.
But, well, I'm not going to let the cat out of the bag.
We will talk about it on
Wednesday here, Anthony Hilder joins us in an hour and 20 minutes from now.
Of course, so we're going to have Dr. Stan Monteith popping in to give us a scoop.
He's the guy that broke the big Lindsey Williams story about him being threatened and told to shut up and what Lindsey Williams is saying.
And Lindsey's always been accurate in the past.
He's been saying the same thing for 20 years.
And it all came true.
And now he's really thrown us a curveball, not just with the threats he's reportedly gotten and the fact that he's saying he's not gonna do any more radio interviews,
We've got his home number and his cell phone.
I kind of have blind spots.
I didn't think to get him on late last week.
Everybody was calling me because I had my mind on so many other issues, but we're trying to get a hold of him this morning, and he may be on today or tomorrow.
Lord willing, because he has been doing a few radio interviews, and we'll get his take on things.
For those that don't know who he is, Lindsey Williams was an oil field
Chaplain and the CEO of Atlantic Richfield had dinner with him a few times and got to know him and saw the work he was doing in the oil fields, Baptist preacher, and hired him to be Atlantic Richfield's chaplain and to sit in on all the meetings and to pray before the meetings and it's kind of the old-fashioned way most companies did things.
This is back in the 70s and they discovered, of course,
Oil fields with more oil than some of the biggest fields in Saudi Arabia.
And they were so excited and then literally aircraft helicopters landed.
Other executives showed up and they told them this is going to be secret.
All of you are sworn to secrecy.
And there have been a lot of other events like that.
They found oil fields that rival Saudi Arabia.
Or may even be bigger in the Gulf of Mexico that the United States cannot have access to.
Large sections of those were given in 2001 by George Bush, one of his first major acts, to Mexico.
He just ceded territorial waters through executive order to Mexico, thousands of square miles.
China is drilling in many of these waters.
It's incredible.
It's absolutely incredible.
The oil companies are trying to have a world monopoly, and in trying to... with government.
See, they can do this because Mexico owns most of the land, the government does, and that means the private families that control the government control it, don't it?
Through fiat.
That means our government controls, what is it, 87%?
Last time I checked, of Alaska, the state has most of the rest.
What is it, like 3 or 4%?
Of Nevada is private.
10% of Utah is private.
And I know it's right around 4% of, you can debate the way the lines are drawn, of Alaska is private.
And it just so happens, these are the major treasure troves of oil, and clean burning coal, and uranium, and gold, and silver, and bauxite, and aluminum, and did I mention diamonds?
Back in the late 80s, they found a huge diamond field.
It was in more than 20,000 acres in Arkansas.
And the DeBool family, not DeBeers, DeBool, a South African-French family, swooped in.
The reason I know about it is my dad was friends with some of them.
Went to college in Newham, in the Newham business with some of the brothers.
So I remember hearing about this at the dinner table before it was ever on the news, because they lived in Dallas, and that they had gone in and bought up all these tracts of land from the landowners.
And then the environmentalists were sicked on them to stop the mining of the diamonds.
Very clean type of mining.
This is just where they just go in and get the ore and extract the diamonds.
It's not like gold or silver mining, especially gold mining, where they do put the ore into these giant lakes of cyanide
Filled water that etches away and eats away all the rock and then leaves the gold ready for separation.
Oh no, those are all fine and dandy.
Very toxic, very dangerous, very deadly to the water table.
Uh, no, no, no, this is just going right in directly and just, just sending miners in, into deep mines to remove the, uh, diamonds.
And they said, no, you, you can't have the diamonds.
And so, from the late 80s until the mid-90s, there were lawsuits involved, and finally, the Bull Brothers... I forget, was it... I could have my dad in here as a guest.
I forget the Bull Brothers' first names.
I forget which one predominantly ran that operation and owned that.
But the point is, is that I remember they got paid three and a half billion dollars to the U.S.
government.
They said, okay, you got to buy this then as parkland.
And Bill Clinton, I think it was 96 or 97, paid them more than three billion dollars to walk away so those diamonds would sit there.
And of course, later, there was an article in, I believe it was April of 2000, bragging about it in the New Yorker magazine, admitting that the Oppenheimers, through De Beers, it's just one of the names of one of the mines in South Africa, they chose that name under Cecil Rhodes.
That then, of course, lets them continue their monopoly, which is worth hundreds of billions of dollars a year in profits.
And Diamond Empire, we had the British lady on.
She's married to a lord.
She's a royal.
We had her on a few years ago.
I need to get her back on.
She, uh, made the film Diamond Empire, uh, which I remember when I was in high school, my dad had us all come in, uh, the night it aired and we ate dinner in front of the television set, something we normally didn't do because he knew a little bit about the diamond business just from the sidelines in Dallas.
And he was like, I can't believe they're going to air this.
This is the big secret.
And I remember watching Diamond Empire.
Where, what she produced, where they allowed her in to the big warehouses in France and in the Netherlands and in England.
Huge warehouses full of giant chests of diamonds where they stockpiled them.
Because there's too many of them.
It is a semi-precious stone.
You have the ultra-precious, precious, there's a scale
Down into semi-precious and then you have your stones that are considered like quartz and things just to not even be precious.
Diamonds are in the middle of the semi-precious chain.
So you've got this top-down gauge of the ultra-precious down to the non-precious stones and diamonds are in the middle of the entire spectrum.
They are right in the middle of semi-precious
Right along with things like agates.
You can go to the Great Lakes and walk along the beach there and it's just agates everywhere.
Just piles of these beautiful rocks, but they're not precious.
They're semi-precious when you've put time into them, cutting them and polishing them.
They're essentially worthless.
Unless they've been cut and polished.
So it's not even worth it to put the time into them.
Well, it's the same thing with oil.
It's just everywhere.
It's everywhere.
We're swimming in it.
But through global government, through international agreements between countries, they are able to monopolize it to a certain extent and create an oligopoly.
A cartel.
And that's a fact.
I mean, OPEC is a cartel.
But OPEC is only one sector of it with Latin America and the Middle East and Central Asia.
It interlinks with the British Anglo-American system.
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Government officials have been quietly stepping up counter-terror efforts out of a growing concern that Al-Qaeda or similar organizations might try to capitalize
On the spat of extremely high-profile events in the coming months, sources tell ABC News.
And they say because of the election, and because of the heightened tensions with Iran, and a possible strike by Israel, or the U.S., or both.
And because of what's happening with the economy, that Al-Cieda, I mean, remember, when you watch the newscast, we have a link to on this, it's the head of the FBI,
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Remember, this is the terrorists telling you, look out, terrorists are going to get you.
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The economy is just steadily going downhill, as all of you know.
They are ramping up to attack Iran.
There are all sorts of military drills and operations going on, and different tattletale units of truck drivers and school teachers, postal workers, firemen, police being federalized.
Students in high school and junior high being trained to be spies.
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You're a big liberal, don't you want to police the political hay this will make?
And he said, look, if we do that, he will attack Iran and maybe declare martial law
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Okay, I know we've got loaded phones.
I want to go to Bruce, Honey, Tommy, John, Jimmy, and others here in just a few minutes, but continuing with what I was getting into in the last segment, the gear up for Marshall Law, Daily Kosh is a gigantic kind of mainline progressive website.
And they've done a lot of hit pieces on InfoWars.com.
They have attacked us many times.
We have not attacked them back.
Because we are not into infighting here, ladies and gentlemen.
We're just sad that they've been so childish over there.
So, there is so much going on.
And all we attempt to do is to get these people to think for themselves.
All we attempt to do is try to get the controlled right and the controlled left, who predominantly are made up of good people.
The average conservative that says, nuke Iran, turn them into a parking lot, really thinks Iran carried out 9-11, really thinks that they're going to launch nukes on Israel, really believes things and is scared.
They're not bad people, most of them.
And they're controlled and manipulated by very cynical psychological warfare experts that
Run the big think tanks that advise the new world order system and the controlled corporate media.
That themselves are owned by the big defense contractors.
And the left means well.
But I have to be honest with you.
I'm very proud of what we would call the traditional left in the United States right now.
You've got a lot of blue-collar and well-meaning hard-working people that aren't very sophisticated who love Barack Obama because they want to show they're not racist white America.
They have this guilt complex.
They think that he's going to bring back a good economy.
They think Bill Clinton was the reason we had a better economy in the 90s than we have today.
No, it's because the globalists are in a different phase right now.
The free money system, the liquidity that was issued in the 90s is why we're now seeing the dollar implode.
This was all by design.
It's part of a cycle.
But regardless, the left is the intelligentsia of the left, the mainline, white-collar left,
Left, I know, that are in entertainment and in media, that are in business, they are starting to wake up to Barack Obama.
To the fact that, I mean, conservatives, when Bush did things that were unconservative, like triple the size of government, open the borders, triple the size of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, they just said, well, and when Bush was for the assault weapons ban, they came out and said,
Okay, well, we're for banning assault weapons.
They really drank the Kool-Aid.
But I have to say that, you know, back when I was trying to wake the left up to Bill Clinton, that he was a puppet and pushing a globalist agenda, and that attacking Serbia was wrong, and a CIA operation with Al-Qaeda, and was covering Senate reports, put up by Republicans on the issue, they wouldn't wake up and wouldn't face it, most of them.
But now, they are waking up.
Now they're realizing the left-right paradigm is a control system where they play different groups off against each other.
And so that's exciting, and the people I know that you would call leftists, you know, artists, media, directors, people like that, they are now going out buying firearms.
They are going out
They are realizing that big government is there to tax them and give it to corporations, and that welfare is there to get people institutionalized in the system, and to basically train people to not be independent.
They are really waking up and becoming freedom-oriented individuals, people who are more libertarian.
And I'm really seeing that, and I'm really seeing the left end their mindless leftist activities
And really have an awakening that I've been seeing going on for five, six years, but really starting to explode right now.
And so I commend you.
And conversely, there have been a massive amount of mainline Republicans that have woken up to George Bush, and I commend them as well, but that awakening is still not as seismic as what we've seen in the left.
And there is a huge article
By talking Q DeVille on daily costs, we have it posted up on InfoWars.com.
History.
How the U.S.
government was overthrown in three easy steps.
And they give the Rockefeller quotes, the Carroll Quigley documents, the CFR statements.
They say there's a global government.
It controls the left and the right.
They fully own and run both parties.
They control the left through foundation money.
It is all staged.
I mean, I would read this entire article on air today if I had time.
In fact, I'll probably try to do it this week.
It's like ten pages long.
It's a gigantic treatise for cost standards, and it is definitive, and I couldn't say it better myself, and I salute you.
I salute you.
And we're now seeing the London Guardian come out and say 9-11 was probably an inside job.
I salute you!
See, people have to be ready to win.
People keep getting upset that we're having huge celebrities come out, and former presidents come out, and former senators come out, and defense ministers.
And saying, well, wait a minute, people are listening to us, we're... This must be a government setup!
People are waking up, we're not supposed to...
Have a fighting chance?
We're not supposed to win!
We're supposed to lose!
No, ladies and gentlemen, we're born to win.
If you've got the dedication, the facts on your side, if you're fearless, then you've got a good chance of winning if you've got the motivation and the dedication, if you don't give up, and if you keep hitting the enemy in the info war every waking moment.
We can turn this around.
The alternative is total enslavement and worldwide eugenics program.
Now, I said I was going to go to your calls.
It's just I've got to play these short clips here.
Because at the bottom of this Daily Kos article that's up on InfoWars.com right now, history.
How the U.S.
government was overthrown in three easy steps.
And I want to get this talk of Q DeVille on.
I'm seeing more and more of this.
Because most people aren't government agents in media.
Most people aren't operatives on the government payroll.
They're more fellow travelers.
They've bought into the false political template or hologram that's been downloaded into their minds throughout their lives and by the peer pressure that reinforces their worldview.
And it's shattering right now.
So we have to
Be ready to win.
We have to be ready to arrest the leaders of the House and the Senate and the Executive, and give them fair and impartial trials, and then send them to prison for the rest of their lives.
I don't think we should get in the business of executing people for treason, because it could turn into a French Revolution-style system, even though they deserve
Many people after they've had a trial by their jury of their peers to be executed, and you know, we've talked about that, and more and more I think about it in studying history, that really shouldn't be done.
They should be exiled to islands, as was done in the past.
Just too dangerous of a precedent.
But I do think they should be thoroughly exposed and imprisoned.
So, I mean, all I can tell you is that we're having big victories, and we need to appreciate the victories we've had, and telegraph that to everybody else, the fact that we can win this.
So there's an incredible article, history, how the government was overthrown in three easy steps.
It is one of the best short pieces, you know, there's books that do it much better, but one of the best short pieces I've ever seen.
And despite the fact that I've been attacked mercilessly by Daily Kos, I turn the other cheek.
And I say to them, good, I'm glad you joined the team.
I'm glad you saw the light.
I'm glad you got knocked off your horse on the road to Damascus.
And that's going to happen to more people.
I mean, as the evil grows, you're going to be tested.
You're going to be forced to make a decision and not sit on the fence.
Liberals, conservatives, all of you.
You're going to have to make a decision and decide who you stand with.
And in your gut, you know we're telling the truth.
You can trust but verify.
You can go check everything we're covering and find out it's true.
And the people are finding out that Israel attacked the USS Liberty in collusion with the White House to try to sink it and start World War III with Egypt and then the Russians.
By the grace of God, those men kept that ship afloat.
The people are now finding out the Gulf of Tonkin was staged.
The people are now finding out that our criminal government has staged more than 200 terror attacks that are declassified.
Game over!
You know, why even debate 9-11?
Why even say it's an inside job?
Why not even... Don't start there with people.
You start with all the admissions.
It's like if I was a prosecutor, and I was going before a grand jury, and, um... We had some murderer who'd been given...
Life in prison, and then for some reason on a technicality his sentence was overturned and he's released, and then a bunch of people get killed in the neighborhood where he lives the same way, the first person I'm gonna go grab is that individual that has this M.O., modus operandi, and then I'm gonna drag his butt in there before that grand jury with the evidence.
See, he's done it before, over and over and over again.
These creatures have done this over and over again.
Debate's over!
You understand that?
It's over, ladies and gentlemen.
So I wanted to play this clip.
It's at the end of the Daily Kos article.
It's called The Ruling Class in America, and it's like children.
It's from a good film I've seen, but it's a very childlike question.
This is from the American Ruling Class film.
And this is a excerpt from the publisher of Harper's and Texaco, heir Louis Lapin's movie, The American Ruling Class.
And he's ruling class, so they let him in there to interview him.
The ruling class is so able to manipulate our democracy that they really control democracy, I feel.
That's Walter Cronkite.
He's a globalist himself.
But the point here is that it's so childlike that they train the American people in the last 50 years that there's no ruling elite, and there's no special interest, and that
I mean, that's like three months ago when they asked the White House Press Secretary, they asked her, they said, we hear gas prices are up because the dollar's been devalued.
Has the dollar been devalued?
I mean, they could go look at the foreign currency exchange index and know in two seconds.
But instead, they all, like children, were saying for five minutes, is it true?
Is it true?
And she said, I can't tell you that.
I'll be fired if I do.
What does that mean?
That means the White House is completely melting down and breaking down the stories we hear about Bush not even reading newspapers, not even knowing what's going on.
And his own press secretaries are basically betraying him on TV.
It's true.
And then we have a childlike American people who have to ask, is it true the dollars devalued?
Is it true they don't know how to go look up the currency indexes?
So let's go ahead and play that clip.
We've been trying to discover if in fact there is an American ruling class.
I'm afraid there is.
I don't think it serves democracy well, if that's true.
But I think there is.
The ruling class is the rich who really command our industry, our commerce, our finance.
Okay, now let me, for those of you in denial about the police state in this country, all the urban warfare drills, the military admitting they're training for martial law,
In the United States.
The fact that they try to ban protests all across the nation, that is martial law.
All the things that are happening, warrantless wiretapping, that's martial law.
When the government does what's illegal, what's against the Constitution, and against the wishes of the people, that's martial law, when they do what they want.
Now here's a clip from Bill Moyers, a few years ago.
Now, we reported at the time that Israeli paramilitary was in New Orleans,
We reported that Blackwater was running around confiscating guns and shooting at U.S.
citizens.
And we had all the local news reports and people just said, that isn't true!
We reported and played the clip of the New Orleans Police Chief saying, all the guns will be taken, no one allowed to be armed, we're going into all the houses and taking the guns.
And people said, no, no, that's not a real clip.
Didn't matter, it was off ABC News.
See, there's this wanton denial.
Well, in this clip on Bill Moyers, they're there with one of the reporters admitting all of this.
Here it is.
Suppose we had a national emergency.
Suppose a terrorist struck again and a president, President Hillary Clinton or President Barack Obama, declared martial law in order to try to deal with this threat.
And there was a private army of 20,000
Soldiers that I could call upon to throw a ring around the Capitol and make sure that the Congress didn't leave town or didn't get back to the Capitol.
I mean, how far-fetched is that?
Well, I mean, I was in New Orleans in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, and I think we saw a real window into the possible future.
I was standing on a street corner in the French Quarter on Bourbon Street, and I was talking to two New York City police officers who had come down to help, and this was just a couple days after the hurricane had hit, and this car speeds up next to us, no license plates on, it was a compact car, and three massive guys get out of it, and they have M4 assault rifles, bulletproof vests, wearing khaki, brown sunglasses, baseball caps on,
And they come up and they say to the cops, where are the rest of the Blackwater guys?
And my head sort of, you know, I didn't even hear the answer.
I couldn't believe what I was hearing.
Where are the rest of the Blackwater guys?
So they get back in their vehicle and they speed off and I said to the cops, Blackwater?
You mean like the guys in Iraq and Afghanistan?
They said, oh yeah, they're all over the place down here.
So I said, well, I'd like to talk to them.
Where are they?
And they said, you can go either way on this street, implying that they're everywhere.
So I walked a little bit deeper into the French Quarter, and sure enough, I encountered some Blackwater guys.
And when I talked to them, they said that they were down there to confront criminals and stop looters.
Well, this is an interesting story.
Eric Prince sent them in there with no contract initially.
About 180 Blackwater guys were sent into the Gulf.
They got there before FEMA.
I don't even know if FEMA's there yet, but they got there before FEMA, before there was any kind of a serious operation in the city at all.
Well, so Prince sends them in.
Within a week, Blackwater is given a contract from the Department of Homeland Security Federal Protective Service to engage in security operations inside of New Orleans.
At one point, Blackwater had 600 men deployed down there, stretching from Mississippi through, from Texas through Mississippi and the Gulf.
They were pulling in $240,000 a day.
Some of these guys, Bill, had just been in Iraq two weeks earlier, guarding the U.S.
Ambassador.
Now they're in New Orleans.
They said, oh, we do this sort of as a vacation.
One was complaining to me that there wasn't enough action down here.
And when I talked to them, they told me they were getting paid $350 a day, plus a per diem.
Homeland Security?
By?
Well, they're being paid by Blackwater.
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If we don't expose the government-sponsored terror, they're going to commit more acts and bring in martial law.
Okay, let's go right back into that clip where he gets into the Israelis.
This is only the surface.
Here it is.
Homeland Security?
Well, they're being paid by Blackwater.
When I got Blackwater's contracts with the Department of Homeland Security, turns out that Blackwater billed U.S.
taxpayers $950 per man, per day, in the hurricane zone.
Well, the math on this stuff is always complicated, and Eric Prince and his men are very good at drawing up charts and saying, well, there's this detail and this detail.
The Department of Homeland Security then did an internal review and they determined that it was the best value to the taxpayer.
Okay, that's enough.
The point is, it clips up on InfoWars.com.
And at Waco, there were French, there were British, there were Israeli, there were Russian psychological warfare individuals there.
They had microwave cannons, sound cannons, and they're always setting the precedent, oh we need Mexican troops in New Orleans, don't forget that, and they were all over Texas, and oh we need Dutch troops, and oh we need, oh we need foreign military to put out the fires in California.
And it's setting the precedent.
You tell the public this stuff, there's Bill Moyers talking about martial law in America and not letting the Congress come back into session.
Well, that's what PDD 51, just the declassified version, and they won't even give Congress a copy of the full version.
When the Homeland Security Committee is co-equal.
In fact, they pass the laws and instruct the executive who then executes them.
That's what the hearings were all about last Friday in Congress.
Now, I said I'd go to your calls.
We're going to go to your calls now.
I appreciate you holding.
Let's go ahead now and talk to Bruce in Colorado.
You're on the air, Bruce.
Well, hi there, Alex.
I really appreciate all that you've been doing.
I'm cooling about one of your sponsors, Interfood.
I have a little problem with them, not the product, but last week,
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Sir, sir, I'm going to put you on hold.
Listen.
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I'm sorry your order got messed up.
I can't do that on my show.
See, we don't screen your calls.
And I know I'll be the big enemy today or something, too.
Uh, and, you know, I had some other guy email in the office saying threatening things today, saying we were blocking his MySpace, uh, bulletins.
We don't do that.
We don't even look at the MySpace account, but, like, once a week to let new members in, and then they complain that we don't let new members in.
We don't have the staff.
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MySpace does that.
All sorts of filtering and stuff that goes on.
Uh, and I know I'm changing the subject.
There's just so much we can't... There's, like,
There's like nine of us that actually work on InfoWars stuff, and websites and films, and the rest are a few people on shipping, and one person on customer service, and I can't even keep track of stuff.
I don't even claim we're the best at things.
We're trying to move to a new office.
We're doing the best we can.
We're trying to upgrade.
We're trying to raise the capital to be able to do all this.
We're trying to start a TV show, and I mean, I just can't do it.
I mean, I can't sit here and hear about how one of my sponsors is bad because there was some problem with an order and you were able to talk to the owner of the company who said, I'll fix it.
Just, you know what, call back if you hung up on him, John, and get his number and I'll give it to the sponsor.
Everybody else I know is very happy with it.
I know we ordered around here.
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I mean, we have martial law coming in, we have the economy imploding, and I got a caller calling up bitching about some sponsor.
I mean, come on, folks!
I mean, I can't control that stuff.
This is incredible!
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Into hour number two, Bob Chapman is going to be popping in to talk about the huge Lindsey Williams story.
Dealing with oil and energy to see if he thinks that's an incredible report.
We're lining up Lindsey Williams as well, and we have Dr. Stan Monteith.
In the fourth hour today and 30 minutes from now, we've got Anthony J. Hilder coming on to talk about world events and to take your phone calls.
Right now, let's go ahead and go back to your phone calls.
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When it rains, it pours, ladies and gentlemen.
It's always the same with these people.
They always control the world.
Everything's connected into them.
They're always the Queen of England.
I just can't handle it anymore, folks.
Good God, it's over for this country.
Oh my God, let's try to talk to another caller here.
Let's talk to Tony in Illinois.
You're on the air.
Go ahead, Tony.
Hey, Alex.
How you doing, bud?
Oh, I'm not doing too well now after those last two calls.
Go ahead.
I'm telling you, it's brain-dead Monday here on the show.
No, I watched the impeachment hearings there on Friday, and I just wanted to get your opinion on that guy, Steve King.
I've never seen somebody look so close to a stroke in all my life whenever he was talking, giving his opening statement there.
I'm not as optimistic as you are.
Yeah, the people that were... Go ahead, explain what he was doing.
He was just basically chastising Bugliosi and everybody, telling them how he was embarrassed.
And they couldn't believe that he was part of an impeachment, you know, sitting there today, and... I can't believe!
I used to be out there in the audience, and now I'm here on the committee, and I can't believe this is happening, and it was just all... I mean, the people attacking those that want impeachment rightfully had no information, no facts, no backup.
It was just all emotional bull.
Oh, absolutely.
Like, I ran into that yesterday.
I was talking to a guy about that and about Barack Obama, and he finally just thought he was going to drop his Trump card of, well, prove it.
Within ten minutes on the computer, I don't think he's going to vote Democrat this year, and I think he's going to follow an impeachment hearing if it ever comes.
Yeah, we need impeachment.
We need to punish people, not vote for McCain or Barack Obama.
That's more of the same.
We need a peaceful revolution in this country.
We don't need more bull.
Go ahead.
Oh, absolutely.
I agree totally, Alex.
You know, I keep trying to explain to people, you know, I keep printing up more and more articles about Obama and trying to share them with people, and it's like they're afraid to hear it because it's like you said, that guilt thing that we all, you know, if you're Caucasian, you have programmed into you, you know, it's like they're guilty.
The reality is... And it has nothing to do with what color he is.
I could care less that Barack Obama's mama is white and his daddy's black.
I could care less.
It's who is behind him, what he supports.
Here in Chicago, I mean, they are hog-wild about some Obama.
Oh, I hear you.
And just real quick, and I'll run off here, I just want your opinion about this, the Obama trip.
He goes overseas for a week of fun in the sun while half of America has to cancel their vacation.
Between that, him signing on to the FISA bill, people starting to discover who his advisors are and everything, his poll numbers are starting to decline.
Now myself, I think personally that the superdelegates, which in my 20 years of following politics I never heard of until this year, I think the superdelegates are going to step in as Obama's, they got two weeks to finish the job on him.
He's laying down just like John Kerry did in 2004.
And I think the delegates are going to drop on him down there, or over in Denver.
I don't think he's going to get the nomination.
I don't know, but I'm going to be in Denver for that circus.
I'll be there reporting live.
We'll be right back with Bob Chapman, TheInternationalForecaster.com
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Paper sold to pools of liquidity.
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Lindsey Williams, who's been an ordained Baptist minister for 28 years, went to Alaska in 71 as a missionary, and then it goes into how he learned of the giant discovered oil and gas reserves that were locked up.
Now, that's admitted from government documents and other guests we've had on, but Lindsey can tell you the eyewitness story, and he's well known, and one of his hour-long talks has been in the top ten of Google for the last year.
Hundreds of millions of people, conservatively,
And that's why Google's had to delist the number of hits in the top 100.
I always have films in the top 10.
We're routinely number one.
They stopped listing about eight months ago the numbers.
If you're in the number one slot, you get about 500,000 views a day.
And so, you know, Blue Change, hundreds of millions of views there alone.
It's now over 100 million conservatively.
Uh, the, uh, professor, you know, who gave a speech about how he was dying and he was number one TV, you know, news report for the last few months.
He died last week.
He got big in the last year because of being number one on Google.
I mean, that's how big this is.
Number one video in the world.
Our stuff is routinely number one.
Well, so is Lindsay's now.
That's why they're now not letting you embed Google Videos.
It's hard to find the code to do it.
They're now talking about even shutting that down.
They're now not advertising it.
Video isn't one of the top links on Google.
They're trying to hide it now because it's hurting them.
We also caught them manipulating our numbers, cheating, playing games.
They had to admit they were.
We wrote articles about that.
This is like us being able to get our stuff, say, on the nightly news.
I mean, it's that big, ladies and gentlemen.
And so that's why the Williams information got so big.
He's now getting really bad death threats.
He says he's going to cave into those.
We hope Mr. Williams doesn't.
That's not what you do.
Bob Chapman doing about 20 interviews a week, reaching tens of millions.
He is being attacked.
We're not going to get into all that because he's been getting attacked since the 60s when he's one of the granddaddies of fighting this, but we're getting the Secret Service down at Genesis threatening us.
We got, I mean folks, they are looking at us right now.
I mean we are toe-to-toe beating the daylights out of the New World Order.
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And we are peaceful, but we are fighting to wake this country up.
And yes, we're getting death-threaded.
Yes, I don't tell you about the stuff that goes on behind the scenes.
Bob, I know you don't want to get into it, but I mean the type of stuff you go through, it's unbelievable.
It's been going on since 1967, and you can ask Anthony Hilder, who's coming on later.
I mean, he was there with me in the early days, and it's just never stopped.
What would you say to Lindsey about backing down?
Well, you know, everybody has their top tolerance, and some people are stronger than others.
They've threatened me innumerable times.
And I said, come on.
You know, I can shoot straight, too.
Well, it's the threatening attitude.
I mean, if they want action, they come to the right place.
Well, it's also they then start threatening family, and I think that's what Lindsey can't handle.
That's what Ross Perot couldn't handle.
Well, I think Lindsey's doing a lot of good, although I don't agree with everything he has to say from an economic viewpoint.
That's right.
I mean, he's right about the info, wrong on the perspective.
He's saying, well, explain what he's saying, and then break it down.
Well, very simply, there's enough oil and gas for 200 years, and as you said earlier, he's dead right.
And that alone, getting a podium and being able to deliver that to the public of the world is extraordinarily important.
Number two, yes, oil and gasoline prices are going to go down once deflation takes over.
And that is not going to happen for a while yet.
You and I have discussed this in a program.
And I think that two, three years down the line, they will finally lose control.
Maybe it'll be five, maybe it'll be a year and a half, but it's not tomorrow.
And for people to wish for $50 oil, it's not going to happen.
Why?
Because oil is just a reflection of the real problem, which is the reckless creation of money and credit.
And that is continuing unabated.
It's dollar devaluation, and then that drives the secondary input into the equation.
I know you know this, Bob, from the listeners, which is the speculators.
And we've been saying for three, four months, it would go up to $145 this summer, which it went above that, and then it would then drop down, as you've been saying, in the last month to $120, until next summer again, when it's going to go to $200, correct?
Amen.
Okay, now let's add another sector to this.
Even if they find all these oil reserves, they just lay them off limits like they did Alaska or the Gulf of Mexico.
That's in Part B. I want you to comment on that.
But in Part C, there was a program which was released in lawsuits, or Associated Press reported, 95-96, two oil company summits, the Big Ten.
Where they bought up 214 refineries in the U.S., scores in other parts of the world, shutting them down to create an artificial bottleneck for the eventuality if Russia or Southeast Asia or somebody else did start delivering masses of oil, they have a bottleneck which will block it.
Correct, Bob?
And then some.
And that's right, and then some.
You know, these people are not dumb.
And, uh, you know, they come back.
I mean, they're persistent, and they're not going to give up because they have a lot at stake.
Great wealth and great power.
And it's been going on for a thousand years, and they're not going to roll over.
And so that's why it's so important that your message, the message of all of your guests and all of these other type programs, get out to the public.
That's why I won't stop.
I won't stop until they take me down six feet.
Well, we know you're a veteran and worked in intelligence in Europe.
There's a lot of stuff we can't talk about on air, Bob, but I've never heard you talk like this.
Like, you're talking the last few months.
We don't want to lose you, and I think it is escalating.
We've seen it in the press against you and, you know, the FBI coming after you and things.
And, you know, you're, it seems like, I'm not criticizing you, Bob, but it seems like you're kind of, you know, begging the dragon to come after you, saying, bring it on.
Why have you gotten into this mode?
I've always been in that mode.
I just never have been that outspoken about it.
I'm just sick and tired of it.
And I'm sure you are, too.
You know, my family's been threatened, etc., just like yours has, and it's gone back a long, long time.
I mean, I had, you know, the government trying to set me up with this thing or that thing innumerable times.
Well, Paul Craig Roberts,
And I'm not calling for this, folks, because I need to be a venue to get the news out, and I don't want it to get violent, genuinely.
But, I mean, I have the former head of the Treasury on, the former Wall Street Journal editor, and he says, attack police, overturn police cars, and he said that last Friday at the end of the show.
Queue that up, John.
I mean, I'm seeing the troops and special forces and all these people I know, and this is genuine, they want to fight, too.
I mean, I think the globalists are really pushing it, Bob.
Well, they are, and the reason why is their program has been dealt a terrible setback in the Middle East, and they're going to have to regroup and go off in another direction.
It's been a couple of years, I think, since the European Illuminati and the, we'll call them the, the Zbigniew Brzezinski faction have
Uh, taken over what's going on in the United States.
And that's why there hasn't been an invasion of Iran.
And I do think they want to withdraw in time from Iraq.
Because the oil companies got what they want.
They're going to get their contracts.
And that's what they were after.
But Israel says they're going to go ahead and hit Iran.
Do you think they're really going to do that?
No.
I think they've been told to stand down and not do it.
And I believe secretly that they've been making deals with Hamas and
Hezbollah and Syria.
And I think there's going to be a backing off there.
Although, I do think in Afghanistan they're going to expand their conflict into Pakistan and try to Balkanize it in order to create a better Western flank against India and China.
But that is a problem because there are a bunch of nukes and good delivery systems in Pakistan.
Why did the globalists arm them?
Well, I'll tell you, first of all, I don't know why they armed them.
The one greatest source is now dead.
They assassinated her.
And secondly, I do another program where I had a call in from people who are on the site guarding the Pakistan nuclear weapons.
This is an elite U.S.
government unit.
Well, that's been reported that there are U.S.
Special Ops all over the key military structures, infrastructure in Pakistan.
Well, that one came right from the guys who were there.
First hand.
So, they just want Balkanization.
Yep, that's what they... It's the same thing they do in the Balkans, you know.
Going back to the 1400s, every time they wanted to have a war,
They had balkanized the different sections of Eastern and Central Europe, and they just liked the match.
You know, it's just like the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand.
It was simple.
British intelligence, the great game.
Mm-hmm.
Oh, man.
And that's what Brzezinski's up to.
And it could be far worse, because he is now re-again pitting
Russia and China in India against the United States.
And if they continue to press with the situation in Georgia, Kosovo, the possibility of missile installations in Poland, which so far has been defeated, and the radar in the Czech Republic, Russia's going to have no choice
But to confront the United States... What does it mean when the Russian foreign minister says we will use nuclear weapons against your installations three months ago?
I want the answer from Bob Chapman on that when we get back.
And again, we love Lindsey Williams, and it's just that geopolitically, you could have a planet of oil, and they wouldn't refine it for you.
Okay, just checkmate.
Done.
Trying to explain this to people.
We'll be, uh, right back with, uh, Bob Chapman.
Now, natural gas is another subject, as it doesn't have to be refined.
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Bob Chapman, I'm going to hold you a little bit over with Anthony Hilder, so you can say hi to your friend.
Anthony's been doing this since the early 60s as well.
We're having all the icons on, ladies and gentlemen, as much as we can during this dark time, and giving them the credit that you do.
We're going to get Anthony's view on the future.
I'm going to have Lindsey Williams on an hour and ten minutes from now, and then Dr. Stan Monteith is on as well.
We'll have both of them on together.
Bob, I know you're doing a lot of interviews.
Anywhere between 1.30 Central
And 230 Central, if you want to pop in for 10 minutes to try to explain this, I mean, I can do it as well to Lindsey, because this is, people are really believing this about the $50 barrel, and we're going to be paying $1.10 for gas.
And I understand he's talked to his oil company, people that are saying there's too much oil, the monopoly's breaking, but
I don't know why he's being told this, because it just doesn't jive with the basic facts.
I mean, he's right about the giant oil reserves, but I hate poo-pooing him.
He's going to be on.
Great guy.
Do you have your schedule in front of you?
We'll just schedule you live on air.
You want to pop in for ten minutes later and have a bifurcated interview?
After 1.30.
Okay, we'll call you at 1.45 so he can have some time to run before you pop in.
How's that sound?
That's fine.
Okay, we're going to keep going another 10 minutes in the next segment with you with Hilder, but right now I was getting into... I got distracted setting up Gester in the break.
What was the issue we were going in the break I was asking you about?
I don't know.
I can't remember, I've got to be honest.
Oh, Russia threatening to nuke Europe.
Right, and you know, one of the interesting things I was thinking about after you said that was that I found out just recently
And perhaps you and your audience know this already, but I didn't, that Zbigniew Brzezinski's son, Ian, is World Policy Advisor for John McCain.
Did we know that?
Yes, I'd seen that.
So not only is he the advisor to Obama, but also with McCain.
Now we know he's still covertly advising Obama, but you know a month ago they kicked Brzezinski off of the Obama campaign.
So does that show a power shift to you?
No.
No, it shows him going undercover.
Because his son is also with McCain.
And so there's a big... The Brzezinski family is in there up to their eyeballs, and rightly so from their perspective.
Because they're representing a big shift in policy.
And that's the European Rothschild-dominated side?
Yes, the black nobility of Europe as well.
The key was two years ago when Brzezinski said that what the current administration of Washington has done has set back our plans for world government by 30 years.
I don't know if there is an exact word.
Would you call that the Vatican-centered arm or pole of the New World Order?
Because we do now really see, what the old-timers said, the Vatican more and more coming to the head of the European Union, super-state conversions of most leaders, including Tony Blair, to Catholicism.
Well, I think it could very well have something to do with it.
You have to step back and wonder how they survived these centuries by standing apart.
And you don't survive by standing apart.
You've got to cooperate because you're dealing with the crown heads of Europe, most all at one time who were Catholics and some who are still today.
And so with that said, you have to wonder why they still exist in their current form.
On the global power structure with this bipolar New World Order system, where is the Vatican in that structure from your research, Bob?
Well, I don't really know, but I do know this, that there are a lot of people at semi-high levels outside the Church who are Catholics.
And you might cite Opus Dei as an example.
And I know that they were deeply involved with fascism during the war and before the war.
And they did set up an escape route for many, many people, some of whom I've talked to.
And so they were in it big time.
Did they believe in it?
I don't know.
Was it survival for them?
Maybe.
You know, there's both sides to that thing, and I've never really gotten into it.
One of the reasons is all the players that I know, number one, thought they were doing the right thing as fascists, and number two, they're all dead.
No, no, I was just trying to get your specific view because, you know, we know that that arm with Brzezinski really does have some major differences with the Anglo-American wing.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
And they are the original and the more powerful of the two wings.
Okay.
And they have taken over.
That was the question, was, are there two wings?
Yes, in your expert view.
And which is the dominant wing?
You see a split between the Anglo-American arm and the Vatican arm.
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Uh, Anthony Hilder put out the original Illuminati tapes in the 60s with Myron Fagan.
He has written a bunch of books, made scores of films.
Uh, he's one of the people early on... I woke up on my own reading None Dare Call a Conspiracy by Gary Allen that...
Bob Chapman was behind it, and then I woke up through Tex Mars, Anthony Hilder.
You know, these are the people that influenced me.
Then I found Mark Kornke, and people like that afterwards.
And I didn't even know about people like in 1998.
Have you heard about Holda Palehorse and Bill Cooper?
Well, yes, Anthony's been around for a long time, just like I have.
We're old.
And we worked on a number of projects together through the years, along with Alan Stang and G. Edward Griffith and, of course, my ex-partner Gary Allen.
Tony was mostly into publishing and he did, of course, as you mentioned, Byron Fagan's records on the Illuminati.
I told Tony recently I have an original set
Which I guess there's not too many of them around.
And, you know, we were pamphleteers in those days.
And we got involved in politics in a big way as well.
And so we've been at this a long time.
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Like the light of the sun across the world, and we are just so honored to have him on.
Anthony Hilder, good to have you here.
It is my pleasure, and being on with Bob Chapman is an extra special pleasure because we both understand that this depression that we're going into is by, it was deliberate and by design.
Anthony, what are you up to these days?
I mean, you're churning out films, you're doing talk radio interviews, you're as busy as you've ever been.
Tell us about what you're up to right now, and then get into your breakdown of what you see us going into in the near future.
Well, I'm actually desperate right at this moment.
I'm just finishing this film called Ten Dollars a Gallon.
And in this film, we're telling the people that we're going to have
A disaster which is like nothing else the world has ever faced.
We're getting to the point where they're preparing to eliminate 80% of the Earth's people.
And they can do this by destroying the dollar, bringing it down, at the same time bringing the price of gas up.
So you can't buy food because it's too damned expensive.
You can't transport food
Because it's too damn expensive, the combines, the tractors, the trailers.
You can't move them.
Because when the gas goes beyond a certain point, the inner cities are going to just shut down.
That's what's going to happen.
We're in the process of seeing that now.
I believe there'll be food riots in this country within 60 days.
You go into Detroit, you go into downtown Los Angeles,
Where the Blacks and the Browns reside.
And they're in wars against each other now.
The Bloods and the Crips and the Long Beach Crips.
MS-13.
It's happening.
It's in this before our very eyes.
There are already riots in the public schools every few weeks, racially, with the Latinos and the Blacks.
I mean, and you're right, I got AP here.
As costs rise, inflation's next front is retailers, and it gets into people already having problems buying food.
Well, this thing that Bobby knows very well is going to bring us to the point
Where there is the enemy, our enemy, the people who control the privately owned Federal Reserve System, the evilarchy, the Illuminati, as we described them years ago, have no option.
They can't turn around.
They've got to create another crisis.
So we have to expose what they are intending to do to
There's a trap up there.
We have to spring that trap before we, or the people of the United States, get to that particular point.
Because this country can turn this around.
We can do this.
This is a doable.
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It's in 7 languages.
Uh, the first one, Illuminati 9-1-1, which I started on September 11th, 2001, and finished on Halloween.
Uh, we weren't successful with that, other than the fact we got others to get on the bandwagon and, uh, go with it.
So, it's important that we have the completion of these films, and I've got, uh, 21 projects.
We have, uh, Citizenship 666.
The invasion that's occurring from Mexico is deliberate and by design.
When we have this invasion here, and the people say, well, we have to have some sort of comprehensive immigration program... Worker visa!
We don't know one from Rodriguez, from... He says, well, we'll just give everybody a biochip.
We'll give them a citizenship.
But that's how they intend to introduce this.
At a depression, people are more likely to accept that during a depression.
Let me get a comment on this from Bob Chapman.
Well, you're on your knees financially and economically.
Most people, educated or uneducated, gotta say, well, gee, whoever's gonna feed me, I like them.
And so, along with the feeding and the job or whatever it is, comes a control, and the control is world government.
No, I think Bob differs a bit with you, Anthony, in that he doesn't think this is going to start unraveling in the next... I mean, it's unraveling now, but it's going to unravel slower.
Bob, am I right in saying that you think this is going to happen a little bit slower than what Anthony's hinting at?
Yes.
You know, what Anthony has said is absolutely true, but it's been going on for some time, and there would have to be a catalyst to
Bring other people into the involvement.
And that catalyst would be the falling apart of an economy.
And that's taking more time than we have anticipated.
We're in recession.
Government, Wall Street, they all lie about it.
But sooner or later, they're going to have to admit it.
And then they're going to have to move on to depression.
And when depression starts, that'll be the catalyst.
It'll bring everything down.
Well, I went to a restaurant last night, Anthony.
I want to get your take on this, because you're in one of the biggest cities in the country.
I'm in Little Austin.
Just a million metro, not, you know, ten million like L.A.
metro.
And we went to a little Mexican food place, and all of the waitresses, we heard them, were complaining about barely having money to buy their own food.
I noticed, and I've eaten there a lot, that people were walking.
A lot of the people were walking over to eat.
And this is a, you know, lower middle class area over here where my office is, but it's not, you know, the projects.
Well, my son, uh,
I live out here, my youngest son lives out here, and within a block there's eight foreclosures.
Eight foreclosures are within the square block.
The rents are going to, like in Santa Monica, from $1,500 for a one bedroom to
uh... twenty five twenty seven hundred for a two-bedroom house because people are leaving big houses and having a downgrade so the cheaper houses are going i think that they help let me put it this way an apartment and that's an apartment uh... it is insane uh... that over the people for the republic of santa monica there are people into indo alco sleeping overnight uh... uh... this is a good neighborhood and uh... i went out one day and here's somebody sleeping out
Underneath the entree, or the entrance to this apartment house.
And the Californians, state and cities, are opening huge parklands for car cities now, right?
And the president says, everything is A-OK, right?
There's a little problem, but it's under control.
Well, the problem is they want us under control.
It's a nine-ball kind of like, I'm sure, one world, one race, one ruler scenario.
It's taking place before our very eyes.
Bob may think that, you know, it's going to be a little longer.
I think it's a little bit shorter, but we're on the same track.
We have been for the past 40 years.
The Illuminati records by Myron Fagan.
I felt if they were not made then,
We would not have the situation that we have now.
Oh, we've slowed them down.
There had to be a seed, and from that seed, Gary Allen, who met with me and John Steinbacher up at the Copper Kettle in Hollywood, said, Hilder, you're wrong, you're dead wrong, and I'm going to expose you, and you're doing this thing, talking about the Illuminati, it doesn't exist.
So we started out to write an article,
We're good to go.
Not sold them all.
I walked into his place and it was like a mountain in the warehouse.
But I mean since then they've printed more.
Twelve feet on top of the books.
And I took at one time ten thousand, put them in the back of my father's truck and drove off.
That would be an accurate statement.
Myron Fagan, God bless him, would be a hundred and I don't know what.
I didn't have it together.
I was very much involved in the Goldwater campaign in 1964.
And I just didn't put it all together.
I knew that the Republican Party was controlled from the inside during that election.
I even found out about subliminal advertising, or subliminal propaganda.
During the Goldwater campaign, we were trying to resist a speech that was made down in Long Beach, against discrimination.
And I was taking it down from a recording that was put out, which was done by an outfit in Hollywood.
And I figured, well, this is going to be excellent, it's going to be clean.
And I thought that it was clean until I came to
A piece where I had to splice my particular tape in with another tape there, because I had one of those little Ewer recorders with a small reel, 5-inch reel.
When I spliced them together, I heard, you know, that one was clean and one was not.
I said, well, something's wrong here.
So we kept cranking it up and cranking it up and cranking it up.
DB after DB after DB.
And I heard in the background,
Goldwater.
Goldwater.
Goldwater's a fascist.
Goldwater's a fascist.
How they got that on there, I have no idea, but I discovered that even on the publicity that Barry Goldwater was getting on a station that was owned by Gene Autry, that they were able to put in a subliminal
Psychological message here.
And now it's admitted when you go to film school or RTF that there's subliminal everywhere, different layers of it, and the public says it doesn't exist.
Well, Bob, we're going to talk to you chiming back in with us in about an hour or about 55 minutes to be technical.
I just wanted you guys to be able to say hi to each other.
We'll be right back with Anthony Hilder.
Okay, Bob?
Okay, bye-bye.
There goes Bob Chapman.
Anthony, stay there.
I want to talk about subliminals.
I'm glad you brought that up, because you've worked in Hollywood, you've run a whole film lot out there, you've worked on just amazing individuals, seen so much, and met so many famous people, and I want to talk about the Illuminazis, the fascist global system, what they're planning, the endgame, with Anthony Hilder, and give you his website, some of his newest films as well.
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All right, Anthony, that's a good place to get into.
I don't want to get into the big picture, but subliminals, the average person doesn't know
There's many different layers, many different types.
I mean, not just having five, six video screens behind, say, Anderson Cooper, where it immediately shifts you into subconscious mode, because only your subconscious can look at the six different screens.
One with a football game on, another with Wall Street images, another with battle images, another with flooding.
Then he's talking about something totally different to you verbally.
Then there's a scroll at the bottom, blue mist in the background,
And so that shifts, and then there's the flicker rate, which also mesmerizes you, brainwaves, scientific fact.
Then there's semantically, the words they use, how they twist things.
Then you add to that that they're adding subliminals in, you know, one hundredth of a second.
Break down the different types of subliminals that are literally mesmerizing and neutralizing people.
Primarily on radio.
I mean, there's not much you can do other than simply to put a track in below the audible conscious level.
And when one hears this, they don't hear this consciously, but it registers subconsciously.
So, when you have a promotion, let's say it is for Barry Goldwater, it is against Barry Goldwater.
And it is using very good the people's money that has donated to his campaign to be used against him.
I mean, it all sounds crazy, and I didn't realize that this thing existed.
And in 64, I was shocked.
I mean, I couldn't figure out how the hell he got it in there.
I figured ABC, because I've had a friend working at ABC who gave me the rest of that particular clip, was that they might be involved in something like this, but I never figured that radio recorders who took down the, in Hollywood, that took down the transmission, it would have to be clean, but it was the other way around.
That threw me.
There was definitely a message underneath the audible, conscious level message that was being recorded.
And by the way, when I took just a few years of RTF, the first basic textbook on RTFs, the history of it all, it admitted the famous cases in the early 50s of flashing for a millisecond in a desert the image of a Coca-Cola and how that doubled sales.
So, this is admitted in the textbooks, but the public isn't aware.
So when you're watching mainline television, you are being hit and hit hard by all sorts of stuff.
And you need to be aware of that.
Anthony, we're going to be back in just 70 seconds, so stay there.
I want to continue with the most basic forms of subliminals up to the more high-tech things they're doing right now.
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I'm going to have him back up with us again next week.
Anthony, again, I want to get into the big picture, the globalist master plan, the population extermination, why they want this world government as a means to an end to carry that out, but continue with subliminals.
You know, once you learned about this, once this woke you up,
Uh, it's because you were, you know, involved in a production trying to promote Barry Goldwater, uh, involved in a production.
How this, you know, in the early, uh, 60s woke you up, uh, getting into more subliminals?
Well, primarily they were done in film and I recognized film because you could stop that, right?
And, um, you could stop it and go back and see the frame that they actually put in.
I was just taking a look at, uh,
Robert Redford's piece, Lions and Lambs, and this guy is a terrible, horrible director.
The acting was horrible, and you'd think that Meryl Streep and Tom Cruise would be at the top of the list, but they were used in a propaganda piece, and it's simply straight propaganda.
You see a lot of that, and I saw a lot of that, and you'll have it in the dialogue.
I don't know.
The smell of Mrs. Fields' cookies when you go into a big mall.
The people will go, oh, that smells good.
Damn, let's have some of those.
You'll have flashes on the little video clips advertising products in a particular store.
The movies do it continually.
It's like you say, the desert with the Coca-Cola.
I gotta have a Coke, right?
It's that reminder.
It's deeper than that now.
They have techniques which I don't really quite understand.
You have to see it or you have to hear it.
And it's also overt in the dialogue.
It's weaved together.
So they have a real propaganda piece.
And they have experts that do this.
I'm not a techie.
First, I couldn't figure it out.
I could hear it.
And I started to put it together.
But I thought, how can they get that onto a message that's coming out from a station that is pro-Goldwater?
And people that are pro-Goldwater.
Did they do it at the origin of the source?
Were they able to mix this in on the same beam that they broadcasted?
How do you do that?
They have experts, and we have been propagandized.
Millions of people who still believe that George Bush is a conservative.
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And we'll show the people how your opinion is used to change the opinion of millions to believe what is not so.
Because it simply is not so.
Alright, long segment coming up with Anthony Hilder.
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Anthony, shifting gears into the big picture, but before we do that, tell folks about some of your websites and some of your materials people need to get a hold of.
Well, the newest film, and it addresses the counterfeit conservative issue, which is the real problem, because if we could explain to the people, those who profess to give us less government are giving us more government.
And, uh, we do this in the, uh, in the field of religion, uh, Skull and Bones, The Catholic Connection is our latest film, and it addresses the, uh, Bill Buckley's and all of those individuals who profess to give us less, but give us more.
Um, our number on that, that's Free World Filmworks, is 800-597-9250.
That's 800-597-9250.
Um, but we're in the process of getting that out there.
And, uh, we have to, uh, I'm getting an echo on the phone.
Okay, we'll have the network look at that, uh, he's getting an echo.
Can we look at the phone system?
It may not be ours.
It may be yours when we have to reconnect.
Uh, with you, Anthony, is it better now?
Yes, it is.
Okay.
No, I'm back on the, uh, um,
I'm back on the repeat and that hang up.
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I'll hang up and we'll reconnect.
Alright, calling back.
We have computerized phone systems.
Sometimes they go a little bit wacky.
Honest, so call him back, John, okay?
I wanted to get into the big picture with Anthony, also give out his website.
For people out there, we are going to have Lindsey Williams on in about 20 minutes from now, and Bob Chapman's going to pop back in with him, the Dr. Stan Monteith, with his take on what's happening with the oil crisis.
Lindsey's got quite a story to tell from his oil company executive sources about what he says is going to happen in the near future with oil.
Uh, Anthony, let's see if it's better now.
It's clean.
It is.
That happens sometimes with those Telos systems.
Okay, good.
Okay, uh, big picture.
New Oil Order Master Plan.
Give us, from your 40-plus years of research, the basic layout of the New Oil Order power structure and then what their endgame is.
Well, first of all, you go back to the basic money.
You cannot have a world that is controlled by this evilarchy through the money offering solutions which in turn give problems.
We have to get down to the basic core and Bob would certainly agree.
We can't have a publicly owned
Money system, like the U.S.
dollar is supposed to be, is supposed to be owned by the government of the United States.
You can't have that in the hands of a private banking institution, which issues fiat money, money at point of origin, and lends it back to us for interest-bearing bonds.
They get the interest.
They own the bonds.
They get the gold, we get the shaft.
We cannot exist in a situation like that, because they can manipulate everything.
The program is to bring about the destruction of the United States dollar.
Totally.
Totally.
And introduce the Amaro, and the North American-Nauzi agreement.
The Nauzi is the North American Union, or North American Alliance.
It's the destruction.
The absolute, total destruction of the dollar.
And what we're seeing right now, we're in this.
It's not coming.
People ask me, well when is it going to come?
We're already deep into this predatory...
Strip mining of the society, economically, socially.
But Anthony, I want to get your, and my list is obviously all about the Federal Reserve.
Now we have hundreds of thousands every day that tune in for the first time on AM and FM across the country, but as you know, I really want to get your big picture.
What makes them tick?
What their mindset is?
What their drive is?
Where, you know, the British Royalty fits in?
Where the Masons fit in?
Where the Catholic Church fits in?
Your new film on that?
I mean, we're
We're covering it all.
Give us from your, you know, condensed knowledge what really makes this thing tick and what their endgame is if they're able to succeed.
Well, the endgame is world government.
They don't want to just simply control a country.
They want to own the country.
They're not even content with that.
They want to own the people within the country.
And I'm going to go into the next step.
Because this is Luciferian.
In nature.
If we take a look at Uncle Sam, and Uncle Sam is pointing towards you, it says, I want you.
And you figure, well, that's patriotic, certainly.
Uncle Sam wants you.
Uncle Sam wants you to join the army, to join the movement of patriots who are trying to save this country.
But when you take a look at Uncle Sam, and overlay Uncle Sam with a picture of the Goat of Baphomet, they are identical!
I'm saying that the Goat of Baphomet, the satanic goat, which is the Masonic mascot, is half woman, half man.
You'll see that the cufflink on his shirt
Matches up with the nipple on the breast of the half-man, half-goat, the satanic star on the, uh, above the go-head.
Matches with the satanic
Well, remember during the debates between
John Kerry and George Bush, and even mainstream news said it, they projected a perfect horned devil behind them, and then that was the year the Republicans flipped the stars from straight up, the three stars on the top of the elephant, to straight down.
They admitted the Republican Party made that decision.
I mean, thought goes into this.
You have to see it on a film that I'm in the process of making, and I need help to finish the damn thing.
We have this overlay
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Uncle Sam's hairs and the hairs of the goat of Baphomet are identical.
I don't know why, but this is
It has been sold to us.
Let me stop you.
It was in the Times of London ten years ago.
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And remember Toyota got caught all over Europe running Toyota ads that were... And it was a film school in London that discovered it, and Toyota apologized and withdrew it.
But they were flashing at millisecond intervals and playing audio under it, but also images.
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And it's saying, kill the baby, drink the blood, the power of the moon, the blood, Satan, kill the baby.
And that's admitted that Toyota did that.
I mean, are they Satanists or are they Luciferian that run this?
Well, the Illuminati is Luciferian.
When you take, and we've all seen the fold, I did the fold of the $20 bill, so you see, and those who are familiar with this show have probably all taken that $20 bill and folded it over so you have the North and South powers.
And you see the city of New York underneath.
And you see American Airlines on the left, United Airlines on the right.
But one other thing you may have not seen, and it's at the very bottom of the fold, on the left-hand side you'll see an ST.
ST is the abbreviation of Saint.
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Gaudens, uh, St.
George, uh, St.
Lawrence.
It's the ST, Saint.
On the other side, there is an IN.
At the very bottom, on the fold, and people who are out there right now putting that thing together, you're folding it together, and you'll see the S-T on the left and the I-N on the other side.
That's S-T.
And on the other side, N. S-A-I-T-N.
S-A-I-T-N.
It is identifying this particular movement as satanic.
This is Satan.
In our film, Skull and Bones, David Cox, who does this with me, is a former seminarian student.
He understands what has happened to the Catholic Church.
Initially, we were doing a thing called Vassals of the Vampire, which is about the neo-Canadian co-option of the Christian conservative right.
And I told him, this takeover of the church is much more prominent amongst the Protestants than it is the Catholics.
He said, no, no, no, it's worse.
And I said, I couldn't believe it.
But after doing a segment with him on the other film, I discovered that now this thing will stand on its own and alone.
So we did Skull and Bones, The Catholic Connection, and it's an extremely important film.
Anthony, is there a website, not just a number, to get that?
Yes, it's FreeWorldFilmWorks.com.
FreeWorldFilmWorks.com.
Stay there, Anthony.
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He had his hand over the radio while he was getting a countdown.
He takes his hand off and you hear three, two, one, and it was boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
This is an emergency transmission worldwide.
I don't want to cut
Anthony Hilder short, but we have Lindsey Williams scheduled in the next segment.
I'm going to try to move him back 10 minutes so we can come back and take a few calls for Anthony Hilder.
You could talk to this guy for 10 hours.
He's got so much knowledge and he hones in on just one facet of the larger tapestry.
The facts are the facts.
You were getting into, you were making a film about the Protestants and the neocons, being infiltrated by the New World Order, and then I guess one of your Catholic friends really said, no, look at this.
And so you've made a film about that.
I've seen most of your films.
I haven't seen this new one.
You say it's so it's Skull and Bones in the Vatican's name in the film?
Yeah, Skull and Bones, the Catholic connection.
You know, when you take a look at William Buckley Jr., who I used to like, but he's the guy that brought in the Panama Canal's pay-away to the Chinese Communists.
He's the guy that endorsed that.
And we take George Tenet.
We take a look at his story on Abu Ghraib, saying that nothing was going on, it was all legal, and then we overlay the killings.
And when we mix all of this together, it just comes out explosive.
It's skull to skull and bones, the Catholic connection.
And our next one to follow that on the same subject is about the neo-Canadian co-option of the Christian conservative right, the Reverend Hagees, the Pat Robertsons, and Pat had told me when I asked him about his hand over the heart, like the lion's claw.
Yeah, the lion's claw, which is a high-level Masonic signature.
Yes, absolutely, on Time Magazine.
They told me just to put my hand somewhere and I just put it there.
No, no, he perfectly lays it.
It isn't a fist.
He has the fingers out with only the front half of the fingers down.
It's a clear salute.
I knew Pat when Bill Bright from Campus Crusade for Christ introduced him to me.
They brought him out to the studio.
I was in charge of the old David Selznick studio where they did Gone with the Wind, but it was then called Laird International.
And I talked to him about the New World Order.
I asked him about his book, The New World Order, and some questions, which he didn't seem to know, because I said, did you write that book, Pat?
He said, oh, yes, yes, I wrote the book.
I don't think so.
Was he lying to me about this hand over the heart?
I know so.
He said, well, I can't talk anymore.
I've got to go now.
And that was in San Diego.
That was years ago.
We have to take these
Visuals of, like, Satan and Uncle Sam.
We have to put them together.
It's clear.
You see the ST on the left and the IN on the right.
William David Cox, who did this film with me, is brilliant.
He's been working on this stuff for years.
And I would like to have Willie Nelson on our film on $10 a gallon.
Lindsey Williams is on there.
Well, I can only ask for so much from Willie.
I mean, I just got another email from him five minutes ago.
That's the problem, but let me just try to get this other thing together, and then we'll see what happens.
I've got people calling me.
You've got a vehicle which will go 458 miles on a gallon of fuel.
Now, we need to show that to Willie.
You can only present so much to him, though.
Let's go ahead and take some phone calls here.
Let's go ahead and talk to, hmm, let me see, who's first up here?
Scott in Oregon, you're on the air, go ahead.
Hello.
Yeah, Scott, go ahead.
Hi, Alex, how you doing, buddy?
Good to hear from you, good to hear you.
I appreciate you taking my call.
I am a product of Mr. Hilder and yourself, and I want to thank the greater Austin area for the time I spent there.
There's a man behind the scenes that does a lot of work there, and I think he needs to be mentioned.
It's Steve Mason.
He's a good friend of mine, and I want to give him a good thank you.
Yeah, Steve does an immigration show.
Yeah, and he helps out in a lot of different ways, and I want to give him the credit he deserves.
Yeah, we're doing a radio show about issues and stuff.
Yeah, I'm on that, sir.
Basically, I think the subliminal stuff and everything that's going on is a form of worship.
Of this evil thing, you know?
And, uh... Yeah, it's always putting its image in your face.
That's mind control.
There's no question that this is satanic.
It is satanic by design.
It's Luciferian.
This New World Order isn't just a bunch of old rich men trying to get richer.
They want it all.
They want your soul.
This is a Luciferian conspiracy.
That's right.
And by the way, folks, if you don't believe in God and the devil, that's your issue.
They do.
The point is,
You know, 10-12 years ago I would even laugh at this stuff until I went to Bohemian Grove and was with those men in the audience.
They were taking it very, very seriously.
And the ultimate in selfishness and greediness is to want to take people's lives and their futures.
And that's why, in their heart of hearts, they want to kill everybody on the planet.
Not just 80-90% of us.
They want to kill everybody.
That's right.
We want to kill us, control us, or incarcerate us.
Kill, control, or incarcerate.
And that's the option that you have, unless you join us and incite a revelation.
Lindsey Williams, who is about to come on, is on our $10 a gallon.
Stay there, stay there, stay there.
I'll let you say hi to him when we get him.
We're on the march, the Empire's on the run.
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Tonight, I have a date with a very lovely Rachel.
And today, I gave a killer presentation in Sydney, finalized a contract in London, and demoed our new product in Boston.
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What would you do if you Knew all the things we knew?
Would you stand up for truth?
Or would you turn away too?
And then what if you saw All of the things that's wrong?
Would you stand tall and strong?
Or would you turn and walk away?
What would you do if you Knew all the things we knew?
Would you stand up for truth?
There is no doubt that we are headed into a major storm, economically, militarily, societally, on a planetary scale.
Final segment right now with Anthony J. Hilder.
He'll join us again next week for another hour.
We'll take a few final calls and then let him say hi to his friend, Lindsey Williams, who's scheduled to join us in about six minutes.
Right now, let's go ahead and talk to John in Illinois.
John, you're on the air.
Go ahead.
Hello, Alex.
Thanks for taking my call.
This is just a little bit off topic, but it's very important that I impart this to you.
I had dinner with Lieutenant Colonel Bob Bowman last night, and I asked him the pointed question, does he think the military will obey Bush's order to attack Iran?
And even though Bowman's been out of the loop for 25 years, he retired 25 years ago,
He fervently believes that they will not obey that order.
Admiral Fallon wouldn't.
Certainly, and he pointed that out.
But, because he's been out of the loop so long, I take it with a grain of salt.
I think he may be more optimistic.
But then I see the establishment, the Secret Service, attacking We Are Change and Alex Jones, and this tells me that these people are getting desperate.
They are scared.
Well, I wish I just joined the American people.
We're no threat to anybody.
We're not the terrorists that carried out 9-11.
There's no question that there is a fear amongst this evilarchy, and I call it an evilarchy because it is Luciferian.
There is a fear of massive exposure, and the very best talk show in the world is the one that you are on right now with Alex Jones.
He has done so much with so little for so many for so long.
Well, Anthony, the enemy's been in overdrive with COINTELPRO and their mindless parrots attacking me, but that only lets me know that we are really having an effect, and it's the guests we bring on, it's the synergy of information, it's the callers, it's everything, it's the films, it's the celebrities we have on, all of it is
Really having a big effect, but it's very daunting for me to have this responsibility and to realize we are the tip of the spear, folks.
You have found it.
You are here.
This is the ultimate resistance.
This is the best we've got.
Doesn't mean it's perfect, but this is the ultimate right now.
It's all of us working together.
And when I say all of us, I'm talking about the guy who calls in for the first time on the show and says, look, I've got this little bit of information.
It may not be real important, but it is.
It's important that you pick up that phone and you call other talk shows around America.
Because your voice represents 10,000 people.
We have to have a huge, intensifying, building wave of awakening, a renaissance, a revelation, as you say.
And we've done that with False Flag Terror.
Now people know about Inside Job.
It's in the nomenclature.
People are talking about it.
It's in the vernacular.
People are understanding it, and it's exponential.
And I agree with you, Anthony.
The enemy's back is against the wall.
Thank you, John.
I want to go to Jimmy and Chris.
And everybody else, we've got to hurry because Lindsey Williams, I've already backed him up a few minutes.
We're about to get him online right now with very important information.
Right now, let's go to Jimmy in Michigan.
Jimmy, you're on the air worldwide.
Hey, how's it going, Alex?
Good.
Hey, Anthony.
Hey, thank you a lot for all of the tools that you've given me.
Illuminati, martial law, all of those videos.
It's excellent to wake people up with.
I used them to wake up a lady named Sharon Rainier who's running for the United States Congress here.
In our 7th District.
She knows, I introduced her to Mark Hornke.
She knows what's going on.
And they just wrote a big hit piece on her in the Ann Arbor News.
But no big deal.
So what?
They write a news piece about her that says she's for hard money.
They don't open fire on you in the info war until you're hitting them.
That's right.
And the North American Union and things like that.
They say she's crazy.
Listen, Ed, but a lot of people have called in.
I can't even get through to the editor because everyone is busy.
People are just constantly calling and saying they're going to vote for her.
Thanks for writing the hit piece, you know, because it's cool.
All the Ron Paul people are now going to vote for her.
Absolutely.
Got to jump.
Absolutely.
I want to go to Peggy in PA.
Peggy, you're on the air with Anthony J. Hilder.
Go ahead.
Hi, Alex.
One of the things that sometimes gets overlooked is, for people like me that don't... that Satanism doesn't have any power over, it just doesn't interest me.
But for the people that, as you're saying, they do believe in it, and what kind of mind is interested in something like that?
And it's always, and it has been throughout history, someone who is very aggressive, someone who is very masculine in the sense that all the traditional masculine virtues have been
No, they're beasts.
They're like ravenous beasts that goes about seeing who they can devour.
The Masonic goat is half woman, half man.
At least that's the visual on it.
The Masonic goat is Baphomet, and the Baphomet is the goat of Mendez, and the goat of Mendez is Satan.
This is the seal of Satan.
And it is the icon of the American nation.
Whoever put that on is the same group of people who put that 666 foot penis in Washington, D.C.
It's 555 feet above the ground.
It's 111 feet below the ground.
If you take a look at the configuration of the city of Washington, D.C., you'll see the satanic
Pentagram!
Absolutely.
Listen, I gotta let Peggy go.
I'm in the interior of the pentagram.
I gotta let Peggy go.
Do we have Mr. Williams?
He's all set.
We need to get to Lindsey Williams here for about 45 minutes.
Okay.
Just amazing information.
But I wanted to give, because they're friends and know each other, I wanted to give Anthony Hilder a chance before we let him go.
He's gonna be back with us next week to say hi to Lindsey Williams.
And also he's got Lindsey Wims in his new film.
You know, $10 a gallon gas that he's almost done producing.
Well, Lindsey Williams is standing 10 feet tall.
He came over to the ranch where we recorded this for a couple hours.
We'll be able to use maybe five or six minutes out of the couple hours.
That's what happens when we do shoots.
But Lindsey has the inside scoop, and he talked about the massive amount of oil which is off the North Slope.
Uh, I've said it before and I'll say it again, that there's enough oil out there, using the abiotic oil that we do use, it's not fossil fuel, uh, to last for 150 years.
But we've got an ocean out there, of energy.
We can convert the water into hydrogen, we can end the fuel crisis, and the crisis that will bring us down,
Overnight.
Okay, fire out your website, and we're going to let you go, Anthony.
Yes, Free World Filmworks, and it's 800, if you want the number 800-597-9250 for Skull & Bones, and we'll get to $10 a gallon, and we have to avert this situation and have alternative fuels, and Willie is on board as the late Dennis Weavers on the film.
It's essential.
It's Freewheel Filmworks.com.
Thank you, and God bless Lindsey.
Brother, I don't know whether you can hear this right now, but he's standing 10 feet tall and is continuing in this fight.
He says he's going to bow out someday soon, but I hope that he stays.
Thank you, Alex, for allowing me the privilege of being on your show today.
Well, it's great to have you here.
For those that don't know who you are, been hiding under a rock, in just a nutshell, a minute or two, an abbreviated history, tell us how you woke up, what we're facing, and now you've got a lot of new info.
You say you and your family are being threatened.
You're going to be bowing out soon.
I hope that's not the case.
And then you say you've got new information from oil executive contacts that you have.
Your info has proven to be very accurate in the past.
You've got some new bombshell info for everybody today.
Everything that is going to take place
In this world in the next 12 months, I plan to tell you in the next 45 minutes.
Now, I'm not going to tell it from my standpoint.
I'm going to give it to you directly from one of the people who know everything that goes on behind closed doors.
Basically, real quick for a nutshell, I went to Alaska as a missionary many years ago just after arriving there.
They announced they were going to build the Trans-Alaska Oil Pipeline, that 25,000 pipeliners would converge on the state to build it.
I went to Alaska Pipeline Service Company and said, would you not need a chaplain on the pipeline with that many wicked, cussing, drinking folks?
And they said, yeah.
And finally, they allowed me to have them all in seven camps.
About six months later, they offered me executive status, which meant that for three years' time, I sat in the board meetings with, lived in the same dorms with,
Rub shoulders with the elite of the world.
Many people write books about these people by reading somebody else's book.
There's no glossary in Energy Non-Crisis because I wrote what I lived, literally, physically, lived with these people for three years, was able to analyze them.
As a result, I wrote my book, Energy Non-Crisis.
Now, for the past 35 years, I have known that there is a line out there.
I knew that if I ever crossed it, I was in trouble.
People oftentimes have asked me, and I've never been willing to answer them, when have you ever been threatened?
I've never answered that on any radio talk show, even though I've been asked many, many times.
I am answering that now.
1984, it happened, and seven weeks ago, I had the most startling phone call that I've ever had in my life.
On the other end of the line was a gentleman whom I knew well at Prudhoe Bay.
He'd been in my services.
I knew him as one of the top.
He knows everything that's going on.
If anything's going to happen in the world, he knows it.
Now, folks, let me pause here long enough, Alex, please, to say to your listening audience, folks, you believe everything you hear from Alex Jones.
I have the greatest of admiration for him.
I wish I had more opportunity to be on his show, but I guess it takes something like this for him to invite me.
But anyway, I want you to believe everything he says.
He's telling you the truth.
He gives it to you like it is.
And he talks about these people.
They do exist.
They're positively is a group of people on the face of the earth who control the world and Alex has tried his best to tell it to you.
And I'm going to prove it to you today because this is not a conspiracy.
This is an agenda and they know exactly what they're doing.
So here's what happened to me.
This gentleman called me on the phone and he said, Lindsey, you've gone too far.
You're going to have to stop.
Uh, he said you can do this, this, this, and this, but he said you can't do this, this, this, and this anymore.
And he said if you do, then we are going to do this, this, and this, and this.
And what he said was not very pleasant for either my family or me.
And you don't argue with these people.
When these people say they're going to do something,
If they have the power to tell the President what to do, dictate to Congress what bills to pass, tell the Arabs what they're going to give them for a barrel of oil in any given day, control the currencies of the world, and take the life of John F. Kennedy because he was about to destroy the Federal Reserve, they wouldn't have any problems at all with Lindsey Williams or Alec Jones.
So I didn't argue with him.
I immediately said, what do you want me to do?
And he told me.
He said, you can do this and this, but he said, you can't do this and this anymore.
And if Alex asks me certain questions on the show today, I'm going to not be able to answer you about certain subjects, because if I did, I would be in jeopardy.
As a result, within 24 hours' time, I closed down my website.
You know how much a website's worth to a person.
You won't believe me.
Well, go to my website and see.
You'll see nothing but a front page, lwoil.com.
I called my 800 service and I said, under no circumstances do you ever sell another Energy Non-Crisis DVD.
You pull it from the market, and I don't care how much people want to offer you, you positively do not sell it to them under any circumstances.
But one of the oil companies, Lindsey, Lindsey, Lindsey, whoa.
I mean, how do they think they're going to stop it being all over the web?
It's number one on Google routinely.
Well, I told the gentleman this.
I said, there are thousands of that DVD out there.
It's everywhere imaginable.
From this point on, he said there are certain things you do not say.
He said, we know that you can't do anything about things that have already been done.
But he said from this point on, you just positively do not do certain things.
Now let me guess, you said things that aren't very nice.
Did he threaten to kill your wife and grandchildren?
I don't have any grandchildren.
And as far as that question, I can't answer you, but I will put it this way.
What he said was the kind of things that you and I positively don't want to happen.
So as a result, the few things that he said you can't do anymore were not worth the things that I can do not being able to be said.
So as a result, after we'd gotten through with our agreement, and he said, now, if you're willing to do these things, he said, we'll let you alone.
I decided I'd be friendly with him, and this is where your listening audience comes in, Alex, because I'm going to tell you everything that's going to happen from the next 12 months.
I'm going to prove one of them to you, and I am so glad that you're having Dr. Stan Monteith on just after I'm on, and I'll tell you why in just a moment.
You have a perfect lineup of people on your program today, because Dr. Stan was the very first person I went to after this happened.
No, I knew that.
Yes.
Then let me go ahead.
I called Dr. Stan on the phone just after this gentleman had called me and I said, Dr. Stan, this is what happened to me.
I have the greatest respect of Dr. Stan or probably any man on the face of the earth today in his particular position, both because of his age, his wisdom and his spiritual atmosphere that he creates.
And I said, Dr. Stan, here's what's happened.
He said, Lindsay, your wife, your family, you come first.
He said, forget about everything else.
And he said, uh,
Why don't you call this man back?
He gave me his phone number.
Why don't you call him back and ask him what you can say?
Well, here's what happened.
After he got through with our agreement, I said to him, I said, how's your family been?
I decided I'd be polite if I could.
Where have you been for the past 20 years since I last saw you at Prudhoe Bay?
He became very polite, very kind.
And so I decided to ask him some questions.
And I said, the price of crude oil, the price of gasoline at the gas pump, it's really hurting the American economy.
I said, would you mind telling me where it's going?
He said, yes, it'll probably go a little higher.
Now, he would not say how much.
Folks, write these down.
You can take this to the bank.
And I'm going to show you one that you can already take to the bank as of Thursday of last week.
But anyway, remember, this was seven weeks ago.
And I gathered from what he said that it would probably go up another dollar before the summer is over.
And then he said something so startling, Alec, that I am still sitting here shocked by what he said.
He said, Chaplain Williams, the price of crude oil is going to $50 a barrel.
My mind began running a thousand miles an hour.
$50 a barrel.
First thing that came to my mind was, how are you going to do this?
So he knows.
There are certain people in the world who know what's going to happen tomorrow.
They have already planned it.
It's an agenda.
Lindsey Williams, stay there.
I'm going to skip.
Lindsey, we've got a break.
But we're going to skip the break.
I just want you to know that.
Everybody, for mfallwars.com stream listeners, you'll be able to hear what goes on behind the scenes for the next three minutes.
I don't want to waste any time.
Everybody else will be right back.
And Lindsey, I'm going to briefly have Bob Chapman, because he couldn't come on later, pop in because he wants to talk to you for just a few minutes when we get back.
Then we'll complete your story.
Stay with us.
Okay, we're still on air.
I just skipped that break, but I'm asking the folks in Minnesota, do we have Bob Chapman?
Yes, Bob is here.
Okay, let him know.
I'm going to come to him in three minutes when we come back to the full transmission.
But I want to digress back first, Lindsey.
We've got plenty of time going into the next hour, and if we need to, when Stan Monteith's on the last 30 minutes, we can hold you over with him if you've got the time.
But right now, getting back to these threats.
Yes, I know him well.
I've had many, many hours spent with him.
I cannot give his name.
If I did, I would be in jeopardy to no end.
I will put it this way.
There are certain people who know everything that has been decided, everything that goes on behind closed doors.
Insiders.
Super insiders.
But in the past you've told us one of them was an Atlantic Richfield guy, but you can't say if that's who it is.
I positively cannot.
If I did, I'd be in jeopardy.
Well, for five weeks' time, I disappeared.
I literally didn't do a single radio talk show.
I didn't take a single speaking engagement.
I'll admit to you, Alex, I was scared.
I remember I called Dr. Stan Monteith on the phone, and I said, Dr. Stan, what should I do about this?
I said, here I'm sitting, knowing everything that's going to take place in the world for the next 12 months, and I have a moral obligation to tell the world, but I said, I don't dare do it for the sake of myself and my family.
He said, Lindsey, you have the phone number of this gentleman.
Why don't you call him back and ask him about what you said?
I see it.
I see it.
I'm not quite sure.
Okay.
You see, this comes as a we this, we that.
This is the way it's going to be.
You do this, you do that.
They don't ever tell who they're going to.
You know the mob well enough to know
You know the people in the elite well enough to know that... No, that's exactly... Listen, listen.
We were going to make a big film production in Hollywood.
I'm not going to get into it.
And the producer, within days, people found out what he was doing, not even through channels.
And then he got a call saying, you know, somebody will kill your kids from a general in the Air Force that he knew through his family.
And boy, he backed off real quick.
Oh, it's insane.
Lindsey, we're going back to the full audience.
Listen, I don't mean to bifurcate the interview, but I want to bring Bob in for some comments about what you're saying.
Then we'll let him go quickly and then get into your full story, okay?
Here we go.
Pastor Lindsey Williams, best-selling author, is our guest.
So much of what he wrote about in his books and lectures came true, and we do know they have giant oil reserves in Alaska and in the Gulf of Mexico that they have blocked to keep the price of oil up.
I want to bring in Bob Chapman, because he's very busy, because Bob wrote a big article titled, Paper Sold to Pools of Liquidity, and Bob has said there's this masses of oil, it's proven, it's documented, which it is.
Bob, you know, has analyzed all this.
But he has said that he thinks it's a couple years away before they fully crash the dollar, massive inflation, then deflation comes.
And he said that months ago on the show.
He sees oil plunging at a certain point.
So I wanted Bob to be able to ask a few questions of Lindsey Williams and make his point for this segment and the next.
And then we're going to give Lindsey Williams the total floor to say whatever he wants.
But we've got to have Bob on now.
We couldn't have him on later.
So for that, I apologize to Lindsey Williams.
Bob Chapman, go ahead.
You can talk to Lindsey Williams.
Well, I'm wondering what the gentleman who called you bases the information on.
Do you know?
When a person that you know is in the position that this individual is, says something, you don't ask him where he got his information.
Because you already know.
You see, there's a difference, Bob, in what I have written and what the average author writes.
And that is, the average author tries to sit back and analyze these people by reading everybody else's book imaginable.
I lived with them.
Having been a pastor for 12 years prior to going to Alaska as a missionary, having a bachelor's degree, having studied psychiatry, being able to analyze these people one-on-one, not in my church, but on their oil field, sitting across the dinner table from them, I knew that whenever one of these, and in particular this one,
Whenever he said what he said, I had no problem whatsoever knowing that he knew everything he was saying.
I didn't ask him any questions.
I knew better than to.
So what you're saying, outside of the natural forces that would normally dictate what oil and gasoline might do, other forces are at play that the gentleman says will drive prices down on oil to $50 a barrel and perhaps
When is he saying this is going to happen, Lindsey?
I tried to find out exactly when.
He would not give me a date.
I did ask him how.
Okay, well that's key, because Bob's saying that'll happen.
How?
How?
How?
How?
How is he going to do it?
That's the first question I asked.
I didn't ask when, because I first wanted to know how.
I said, how are you going to do this?
And again, just as positively as if he had had it on a sheet of paper written in front of him, he said, we're going to open up two major oil fields in the world.
That the world doesn't even know exists yet.
Now remember, this was seven weeks ago, approximately.
Okay, stay there, Lindsey.
Back in 70 seconds with Bob Chapman and Lindsey Williams.
And think about this, Lindsey Williams, when we get back.
See, the problem is, they've bought up all the refineries globally, and so even if they found an ocean of oil the size, it takes about three years to build a refinery, as you know, even if they found an ocean of oil, which we know they do have, they're not going to let that be brought to market.
So, I'm trying to understand this.
We'll be right back.
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Our beloved Republic is on her knees.
You still want Dr. Stan at 8 after, correct?
No, that's not what my sheet is.
It takes about three years of old refineries, you know.
Even though they founded an ocean of oil, which we know they do have, they're not going to let that be brought to market.
So, I'm trying to understand this.
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Lindsey Williams is our guest.
I want to state that I
I completely respect Lindsey Williams.
He's a wonderful patriot, a wonderful pastor.
His info has all proven out to be golden.
And on record, we know he was the chaplain.
We know he was in the executive branch with Atlantic Richfield.
And we know that what he says is true from hundreds of other sources.
He's just an insider.
So a window directly into those boardrooms.
So I believe that he believes everything he's saying and I believe this executive told him this, whether he's twisting or spinning or knows how influential Lindsey Williams is.
Is he trying to plant disinfo with him?
I doubt that because Lindsey called him back and got this.
This guy wasn't pushing it on Lindsey.
So, I think that's a key piece of info.
So, I believe he's been threatened.
We all get threatened here.
Our families.
Bob Chavin, myself, our families, our women, our children.
And I've just said, you know, I've already cast my doubt.
I'm going all the way.
But I understand what Lindsey's doing.
He's put his info out.
You know, he's older, he doesn't want his wife and family getting murdered, and I hate to even have to bring these things up, but that's obviously what's happened.
Lindsey, the point is, you know they bought up the refineries to stop other wildcats from bringing oil and gas in, and that's come out even in the Associated Press, something you talked about years ago, you know, then materialized five years after I heard you talk about it.
So I really respect and believe what you're saying, that at least they're talking about this.
I think what Bob Chapman's saying is the pipelines aren't done in the stands.
Alex, when I give you the two oil fields that they plan to open up, you'll understand that this is so bizarre.
And so far fetched from anything that you and I have thought of until it is literally going to blow your mind.
I said, where, how are you going to bring this to $50 a barrel?
Now forget about America.
Forget about Alaska.
Forget about oil fields.
They have no intentions in opening up any of them.
He said, we're going to open up an oil field in Indonesia, already known, already ready to go.
You don't know about it.
They haven't announced it to the world yet.
And he said, we're going to open up one there.
of Russia, flood the world with cheap crude oil, bring the price to $50 a barrel.
Alex, that was seven weeks ago, but watch this.
Thursday of last week, July the 24th, 2008.
Verify this with Dr. Spann when he comes on over the next hour, because this will literally send cold chills up and down your spine.
Mind you, this man told me this seven weeks ago.
And on Thursday of last week, Fox News came out with a headline story of eight oil fields north of an identical same spot that this man told me.
And you were saying this when you went... This one's bigger than Saudi Arabia, 90 billion barrels.
And you went public, what, a week or so before all this happened?
I went public a week before it all happened, and when Dr. Stan had me on his program last Friday, he was almost shaking.
I don't know, but I have to assume that even if they're in operating areas, it's still going to take a while.
I just don't know.
And we don't know when they're going to announce this, when they're going to start this, and so we have to decide, you know, what the timing is.
I can give you the timing if you'd like.
Pardon me?
I can give you the timing if you wish.
Oh, well please do that.
The first thing he said was $50 a barrel.
The second thing he said was the two places they're going to open them.
That is going to plunge the price of crude oil all over the world for $50 a barrel.
And the reason they're doing it is the next question I ask him.
I said, why are you doing this?
This is what will startle the world, and you can take it to the bank.
The reason that Dr. Stan said on his program on Friday, he said, the reason, Lindsey, that I can believe this now,
It's because he said, you told me this seven weeks ago.
No, I know.
Stay there.
Stay there.
I know we're going to have him on.
Stay there.
Here we go.
We're going to talk behind the scenes.
Okay, we're continuing.
I skipped that break too, gentlemen.
I mean, I think the question that Bob Chapman's getting at here is that you had said that he wouldn't say exactly when, but then you're saying you do know when.
I mean, do you have a ballpark?
What did he say specifically on that, Lindsey?
Yes, and here's what he said.
When I asked him, why are you going to do this?
He said, we're doing this because, okay, number one, he said, Iran is worrying us to no end.
He said, Iran is becoming one of the wealthiest nations on the face of the earth.
I said, are you talking about the Iranian bullish bank?
Many countries doing business now besides the American dollar.
He indicated in his way of saying it, yes.
And basically in a nutshell, here are their plans.
They are going to utterly decimate the Middle East.
Can you imagine crude oil being taken from $143 a barrel where it hit at a peak to $50 a barrel?
Well, that just won't bankrupt the Middle East.
It'll bankrupt the dollar.
Well, that's exactly... Alex, you hit the... I'm so glad you're thinking ahead of me.
You can also make the price of gold go up, too.
In the Arab world,
Must maintain their economy.
There's a few sheiks and sheiks over there.
They were nothing but nomads roaming the desert, fighting camels a hundred years ago.
Our oil companies went in and made them.
Now, I studied history.
I had a history minor in college.
About every 75 to 100 years, they will destroy one culture.
They did it in the First and Second World War.
They turn around and make another culture.
That's exactly what they're in the process of doing right now.
They are going to utterly decimate the Arab culture.
The few sheiks and sheiks we'll have to get rid of
All of their reserve currency of American dollars overnight in order to be able to try to even maintain some semblance of economy over there because they have a socialistic economy whereby they give the people everything from schooling to housing to medical to you name it.
And all of a sudden it goes to $50 a barrel.
They can't buy our key bills anymore.
They can't buy our Federal Reserve issues anymore.
We have a $10 trillion national debt now plus.
And what happens to the American dollar when this happens?
Going through the floor overnight.
Bob, this fits in.
I mean, we'll see if it happens.
Lindsey's been accurate in the past, and I believe he believes what he's saying, that this fella did tell him that.
But, boy, that is a reckless operation, if that's what they're planning.
Bring down the U.S.
and the Arabs, left standing is Europe and Russia, and then move their New World Order centers.
Uh, to those places.
We're going to get Bob Chapman's take on this and let him go and we come back to the full audience in just a moment and then let Lindsey Williams roll and then I want to keep Lindsey Williams on in 20 minutes when Monteith joins us and they can all discuss whatever they want.
So here we go with Bob Chapman and Lindsey Williams.
Very appreciative of Lindsey Williams coming on even though he's under threat on this show today.
Here we go.
Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
Okay, I want Lindsey Williams to recap their master plan.
What the big oil baron told him they're planning to do.
And again, Lindsey's only had accurate info in the past.
He was the chaplain for the executives up there when they found the giant oil reserves in Alaska.
He's been exposing and talking about it.
But he's still coming on air to discuss it.
He's been threatened.
But Bob Chapman, any other questions or comments you've got here for Lindsey Williams?
No, I think that we know the groundwork.
And my synopsis from a research point of view and a psycho-political warfare point of view, it differs from what the gentleman he talked to said.
But then again, I'm not on the inside, maybe this gentleman is, but I see a lessening of problems with Iran.
There's been negotiations going on with them for two years.
And I think that they're soon going to come to an agreement.
And I see more problems in other areas of the world.
As far as flooding the market with oil, it's possible, maybe even probable.
I think there's a time element that'll be attached to it, like we discussed earlier in the program.
And so I think it could be down the line a ways.
And I think in the absence
of warfare in the Middle East that oil probably wouldn't go much higher.
And on the other hand, Lindsey believes that through his contact that oil will go substantially higher because to put it in my parlance, the Middle East is going to become a free-fire zone.
And that's possible, but I don't believe that's going to happen.
I disagree with his
A fellow that he's talking to, but then again, he's on the inside.
But, you know, I've been studying this for 50 years, and I have got a pretty good track record.
Well, regardless, all the policies show, and the trend shows, the dollar going down, and what would a flooding of the market do?
Because a jacking of the oil up hurts the dollar, bringing it down to a mid-level helps the dollar, but plunging it, doesn't that too hurt the dollar?
Well, I think one would offset the other.
And I think that people have got to look at the underlying reason why the dollar's weak.
And it's not because of oil prices.
It's cause and effect.
And the effect is high oil prices, and food prices, and prices for other things.
And that's not changing in the next three years.
Okay.
No, because they can't change the system, because if they don't create money and credit,
And that continues to devalue the dollar, then there will be still upward pressure, normally, on oil.
Because it's reflected they want to make up for what they're losing.
And it's a hard combination, but... But if they devalued oil, that would then take the pressure off the dollar.
Only to an extent, because these people at the Federal Reserve continue to increase
I can tell you only what he told me, exactly how it's going to play out.
I'm quite sure Bob Chapman is much more knowledgeable on that than I. And for the past 35 years, as all of you know, all I have done is told what I have been told at different times by the elite.
And so far, I cannot take any credit for it being true.
It's only true because of the providence of God in that I was allowed to know these people and have been in touch with some of them from time to time as a result
They have told me some things.
They haven't told me all things.
They've told me some things.
And as a result, I have been willing to give it out to the world just as you have done a marvelous job of giving out what you have known, Alex.
So, from this point on, I will try my best to tell you what this man indicated to me.
First of all, $50 a barrel.
Secondly, how is he going to do it?
Or how are they going to do it?
These people do exist.
This is a
This is an agenda, not a conspiracy.
I'm sorry, folks, beg me.
I ask you, listen, these people, they control the world.
They know what they're doing.
So anyway, he said, we're going to open up an oil field in Indonesia, north of Russia, flood the world with oil.
I gathered from what he said, even though he wouldn't admit to it, I talked about war with Iran.
Now, I have been under the impression for a long time that there would probably be a war with Iran.
I'm gathering from what he said that the best way to destroy them, because right now our president couldn't go to war with Iran.
The college tutors of America wouldn't stand for a draft.
The monetary system is in such shabby shape until there's no way.
And what he indicated was that they're basically going to financially break them.
Take it to $50 a barrel, put the Arabs back to roaming the deserts riding camels, that beautiful five-star city over there, Dubai, what's it going to turn out to be?
It'll probably turn out to be a ghost town, and they're going to turn around and build new cultures, as they have done for the past 75 to 100 years in the past.
They're going to, and this is what's so startling, Alex, oh it scares me to even think about it, we're going to have to compete with Russia again.
We're going to have another Cold War.
Because here, as was announced by Fox News on last Thursday, Russia, now, being equal with Saudi Arabia in oil output,
Whenever they can produce eight times more than in Saudi Arabia, 90 billion barrels of recoverable oil announced officially by the Coastal and Geodetic Service of the USGS and Fox News on last Thursday.
This is going to make Russia one of the major contenders of the world, both financially, in oil.
We're going to have another great Cold War.
They're going to turn around, destroy the Middle East culture, utterly decimate it, and build new cultures in Indonesia and Russia, and this to me is so startling, I hate to even think about what could take place.
Now, the CEO of ExxonMobil, and you go back up and look this up for yourself, said on May the 3rd of 08, he said, quote,
Crude oil should be $50 a barrel.
Now, that was May the 3rd of 08.
How did he know that?
How did the man that called me know it?
Why did they both have the identical same figure?
The reason they did, because both of them know the same boardrooms behind the same closed doors, and they know exactly what it is that they plan to do.
Then... Oh, my goodness, Alex, I hope... I don't know how to even reckon this.
Then he said to me... He said, Chaplain Williams,
Uh, he said, John McCain is our man.
He went from, it was rather odd how he went from subject to subject because he was very friendly and talkative with me.
And he said, John McCain is our man.
And at that point, oh my goodness, my mind was running so fast and I thought to myself, what are they going to do?
Now, he didn't say that they were going to bring crude oil to $50 a barrel before the election.
He did not say that.
I asked him and he wouldn't admit it.
He wouldn't say it.
They're going to do something, I gather, just before the election to be assured that their man gets in office.
And he said, whatever it takes, we will try everything possible to see to it that he gets into office and John McCain is their man for what it's worth.
Why?
And I'm not saying who I'm for or who I'm against, I'm just saying that's what the man said.
Then, I ask him the question, in light of all of this, $50 a barrel of oil.
You're going to open up these two major oil fields.
These countries will become rich and great as the Arabs are today.
You're going to totally decimate the Arabs.
You're going to put them back into nomads roaming the deserts riding camels.
You're going to change the whole world around and make Russia a great power again.
I said, what can the United States of America expect at this point?
And I'm going to try my best to tell you exactly what he said.
He said, Lindsey, the United States of America is going to see
A financial collapse that is going to be so great that it will take years for it to come out of it.
Now, please note these words, because over the next 15 minutes, he talked with me for about an hour and 15 minutes, and when he finished, over that last 15 minutes, he kept saying it over and over and over.
He repeated it.
It is going to take years for the United States of America to come out of this, and I asked him the question, I said, are you talking about a 1929
Depression?
He wouldn't admit to that.
He would not say that.
He said, I am saying that America is going to see a financial collapse that will be so great that it will take years for it to come out of it.
Now, there are a lot of things that we could read between the lines in all of this.
I've tried my best to tell you just what I think, to the best of my knowledge, may look like, but I've told you exactly to the best that I could what they have planned.
And with these things in light, uh, I decided that I had to tell the American people what I know.
Even though you're under- And as a result, have been willing to appear on a few radio talk shows here in Yon, and have just finished producing a DVD entitled, The Next 12 Months.
I decided I had to give it out, and give the basic points, and then let you go from there as to what you think.
So we just completed, this past week, a DVD, approximately an hour long,
Entitled, The Next 12 Months.
Now, I had to do something else also.
In order to even have an Energy Non-Crisis DVD, which I've had for years in my book, Energy Non-Crisis, we had to go back and take certain things out of it.
And you'll know, whenever you look at the new 2008 version of my Energy Non-Crisis DVD, you'll know what it is that I can't talk about anymore.
Because you'll notice those things missing.
Why are they saying it's okay for you to say one area but not the other?
Alaska, that huge oil field up in Montana, the one in Utah,
They have no intentions of allowing any of this to be developed.
America is going to be kept dependent on foreign oil.
And what I say in my book about Alaskan oil... Stay there.
Stay there.
We got a break.
Stay there.
We're going to talk behind scenes.
But bottom line, they build up Russia and China, give them unlimited oil, turn us off, we're totally in debt, we implode, third world police state.
We'll get your take on that summation right now.
Okay, do we have Stan Monteith?
Yeah, I'm calling him right now.
Okay, we're going to get him on after this break, but this is still on air for the internet, Pastor Lindsey Williams.
This is amazing, because I know you gave accurate info the last 15 years.
I know that you're telling the truth, and that these are high-powered people you're involved with, and I believe you've been threatened, and it actually makes perfect sense, the diabolical... I've always said the New World Order throws curveballs, and we're certainly going to find out if he's right or he's putting out disinfo, this guy that's feeding you this information, but it was always accurate in the past.
We'll find out in the next 12 months is what you're saying, Lindsey, because we keep getting back to that.
He wouldn't tell you when it was happening, but you're saying the next 12 months.
How do you come to that?
Well, then how do you say the next 12 months?
I think that we can see, I'm quite sure we're going to see this $50 a barrel oil begin to develop.
Okay, so from the info you have, you are drawing that conclusion?
I'm drawing the conclusion that I'd like to tell people within the next 12 months
Everything that I know that they have to look forward to in the future.
Alright, well all the big economic experts we have on agree it could happen in the next 18 months to 36 months.
This implosion, and they say it will run up through hyperinflation and dive into basically a debt economy with nothing but debt and plunging prices, but the currency destroyed.
Is that the info you're getting?
Yes, very definitely that the currency is on its way out.
Now, whenever they take it to $50 a barrel,
The Arab world can no longer buy our key bills and our Federal Reserve issues.
They have to dump their reserve currency, which is the American dollar, and dump it trillions of dollars at a time overnight.
That's it.
No, the main thing in their economy is it is going to collapse the American dollar and every bit of that is in perfect line to bring in the North American Union and to issue a new currency.
Yes, which they need, which in their own documents they admit that they want to remonetize the debt under a new North American Union currency and they also said in the Security and Prosperity Partnership meetings that Judicial Watch sued and got that they plan to use economic
Terrorist and military crises, and that they would then say that the North American Union was the answer to that, and that security and prosperity partnership to give us that security and to, quote, give us prosperity to get the economy going again, that the SPP will be the new bubble or the new Ponzi scheme that they launch that is offered as the solution, but that he was telling you it's not going to be a solution.
They plan a long de-evolution of our economy and our culture.
That is exactly right.
In fact, this is the tool that they will use to accomplish what they want.
Alex, the very thing that you've been intimating about for a long time, but all he did was gave me the intricate tools by which they plan to do it.
Oh my gosh.
We're going to come in with Monteith.
Can you stay with us another 30 minutes?
Gladly.
Okay, good.
We'll just take you right to the end.
That's about 37 minutes, exactly 37 minutes.
We're going to be back on the main transmission in one minute.
Everybody watching on the web, we're going to post the audio of this up on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com, TruthNews.us, PrisonPlanet.tv, JonesReport.com, all of our websites.
We want you to get this audio, this vital interview, because this is different from some of the others.
It's bringing in a lot of other integrated information for a big picture, three-dimensional overlay of what we're facing.
Lindsey, fire out, because you said you've shut down the other site.
What is the new site where people can get the new DVD?
Please call 800-321-2900, ask for my new Energy Non-Crisis 2008 DVD, and
The next 12 months, I would urge you, for those of you who don't have What's Happening to the Farmers, get my entire set of 8 DVDs, very reasonably priced.
I only have 600 in energy and non-crisis left, and we will never reprint.
I do not plan on reprinting.
Let me just tell you right now, Hold on.
Wow, well I want to buy some of those before you get rid of them, so save me a few for the InfoWars.com bookstore.
Here we go.
Dr. Stan Monteef joins us for the next 34-35 minutes that we have left in live airtime.
Syndicated radio talk show host, medical doctor, expert on every facet of the New World Order.
He broadcasts himself five hours a day and last time I checked it may be more or less now.
And he is on, isn't it close to 100 stations total around the country, Dr. Monteef?
Well, we have 65 outlets, but some of them are 63 outlets, I think, and some of them are shortwave.
Well, I know they go up and down from time to time.
You have been 100 affiliates, because I remember that number before.
Right, well, no, I wish I had that many affiliates.
Okay, so it's 63.
I'm happy to have what we have.
Because we need to get the people to understand what you talk about, what I talk about.
Well, that's about how many affiliates we have, but that's just amazing, Dr. Monteith.
We've got Lindsey Williams on.
He's been laying this out.
He told you about this long before he went public in the last two weeks, and then now so much of what he's already saying is manifesting.
You've got the floor in a nutshell.
Tell us what we're dealing here with, with the information being brought forward by Lindsey Williams.
Well, the only thing I really have to contribute is the fact that probably about seven weeks ago, seven or eight weeks ago, I called Lindsey after he'd taken his website down.
I think it was probably about seven weeks ago.
And I said, Lindsey, what happened?
And he told me about his experience, which he shared with you, being told that he was not to be allowed to bring out certain facts about the things he'd been talking about in the past.
But he told me that he'd talked to this very high official in
I don't know.
I don't know.
And you know, and Chris, what was amazing was that these things are coming to pass.
It was, you know, about two weeks ago that the price of oil started to fall in many areas now.
The price of gasoline is less than $3 a gallon.
But the most significant thing was, and I will have to admit, Alex, when I heard the report that the U.S.
Geological Survey had announced that they had 90
Billions of oil up above the Arctic Circle and, of course, Russia and the U.S.
were going to be competing for it.
Oh, why, it sort of chilled out my spine.
Obviously, what Lindsey was told is true.
And, of course, I mean, this is truly prophetic, but, of course, along with that comes the prediction that there are going to be terrible, cataclysmic financial situations in America.
And one of the things Lindsey told me was that when he asked what was going to happen to America,
He was told they're going to be very terrible and difficult times for the American people.
Well, I've already felt that, but hearing this confirmed by somebody in a key position, one of those people who rules the world, or knows the people who rules the world, I think gives tremendous credence to what Lindsey has said.
So, you know, I feel very privileged to be playing a little small part in this, only, if nothing else, to verify what Lindsey is saying.
Lindsey, your comments on what Dr. Monteith is saying.
Well, as I said a few moments ago, the first person I called after this old person called me was Dr. Stan, because I admire his wisdom so much, his age, and his Christian background.
Dr. Stan, it's a privilege by the providence of God that you're on this program today, because one day, when Alex Producer called and asked me to be on, he said, did you know that Dr. Stan Monteith was asked to be on today?
So I know that it's the providence of God that you and I both are here at the same time.
So that you can verify these things.
I likewise was just as startled when I heard them all.
And as a result, it's a privilege to be able to tell the American people what the elitists have planned.
And Alex, I need to say to your audience again, folks, listen to everything Alex Jones says.
Sometimes you may think it sounds a little outlandish, but he hasn't missed it.
And he's right on.
There is a conspiracy.
I mean, there's not a conspiracy.
There is an agenda.
And these people do exist, just like you've heard Alex say.
So even though I may not be on the radio every day, because I don't have my own show, you listen to everything Alex Jones says and Dr. Stan Monteith says.
Because they've been trying to tell you this for years.
Well, people are finally waking up.
The big, gigantic, liberal website Daily Kos, one of their top writers, has done a huge report admitting there's a world government, a new world order, that it owns both parties, that they're basically eugenicists.
And Dr. Monteith, are you seeing the same thing, that there is a huge awakening taking place right now?
I'm sure there is.
I think more and more people are beginning to be hit by the declining economy and they're seeing the value of their currency and their life savings are being eroded.
I think we're just on the brink of a great awakening across America.
We're going to talk about that, Doc.
When we get back, we're going to take this three-minute break and we'll be right back to both of you on the other side of Understand Monty.
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I think?
With this information you're bringing forward here, Lindsey, and I wish you weren't a credible source.
I wish this wasn't true.
I mean, I wish that you hadn't been told this.
I mean, it could be disinfo.
I tend to doubt it.
It seems to actually fit into everything we're looking at here.
But did he say anything else?
Any other tidbits this executive that you knew back when you were there with the oil company in Alaska told you?
And then any other key points that you and Dr. Monteef want to cover?
You guys have the floor.
This will have a major impact on America.
The one thing that he did say, which I noticed that I haven't said yet, was he said the huge oil field in Indonesia and the one north of Russia.
He said, we know known reserves are there.
There are more than all of the Middle East combined.
Now, please note this.
All of the Middle East combined.
Take Saudi Arabia, take Iran, Iraq, take Dubai, Arab Emirates, all of the Middle East.
Put them together.
And these two oil fields have more oil in them.
Now this was alluded to by the Coastal and Geodetic Service on Fox News on Thursday of this past week.
One of the oil fields, they haven't announced the next one yet.
This means then that no American oil fields will be open.
This is going to affect the economy in that Alaskan oil is not going to be released, we'll not get the monetary advantage.
I don't know.
These things are just kind of little piddly sidelines with them.
They know exactly that they have no intentions in allowing any of this to be increased or built in America.
So I would urge you folks, and here again, I don't want to have to sound like I'm on a soapbox, but I beg of you.
Please, the number is 800-321-2900.
I have stuck my neck out.
I've tried every way possible to put in only what would keep me out of trouble.
The next 12 months, what you should look forward to, mark it on your calendar, watch it happen.
And I beg of you to get all of my 8 DVDs.
I'll give you a copy of my book, Energy Non-Crisis.
We only have 600 left, and when they're gone, they're gone forever.
I understand Google is selling it for, uh, what is it, $1,900?
Because there are no more Energy Non-Crisis books out there.
I'll give you one as a gift with my 8 set of DVDs.
You can get my new Energy Non-Crisis DVD, and the next 12 months, the number is 800-321-2900.
Now, why do I say all this?
Folks, I beg of you, set your house in order.
You need to listen to what Alex... He had some wonderful products advertised there just a moment ago that you need.
If ever you got things ready, do it now.
And the first thing to do, and you'll have to bear with me, you know, I've been a minister for 50 years.
Set your spiritual house in order.
For goodness' sake, read your Bible and get right with Jesus Christ.
Know that your salvation is settled, that your house is on a solid rock and not on sinking sand.
And I try to bring all of this out in my new DVD the next 12 months.
I bring out not just the things that this man told me that we can expect,
But I go into the background, the ramifications of it, the little details, how you set your house in spiritual order, plan a garden this spring, get out of debt.
Listen to the buzzwords of the elitist, because they do have their own moral code.
Believe me, these people are not totally immoral people.
They have a moral code.
They're required by their moral code to tell you in advance of what they're going to do.
Exactly, that's their Illuminati system.
Stop right there, Doctor.
I'm on to you, Lindsey Williams, because I just want to bring up a point here.
You can see them gearing up for the martial law.
You can see the police state preparations everywhere as they announce, oh, the National Guard's going to be in Denver.
Oh, the National Guard's going to be in Chicago confiscating guns, you know, on NBC News.
Oh, it's for your safety.
We can see them building up for this collapse.
And we better get the word out to everybody of who's behind it so people don't go along with Barack Obama or John McCain or George Bush.
They're just puppets.
We have to have the revelation
Well, you know, there are a lot of things.
Why won't they develop, you know, or let us develop the oil resources that we have?
Those that Lyndy has talked about in Alaska, certainly the Bakken oil, the shale oil, they've got something like 400
Billion barrels of oil there, according to Governor of Montana.
In fact, there was a fellow named Dr. Price, who was writing about this in 2000.
He worked for the Geological Survey.
And just before he got the report finished, he just up and died.
And Chris's report has been repressed ever since then.
400 billion barrels of oil.
And the Governor of Montana has used that figure, and you can Google that in if you want to check it out.
Saudi Arabia only has about
230 billion.
And, Kristen, the question is, why won't they let us develop our own oil resources?
Well, there is a plan, and that is to redistribute the wealth of the American people.
We're putting out over $300 billion a year for an oil.
We're importing about 12 million barrels of oil every day.
We're consuming about, well, we were consuming 20.5 billion.
We're down to about 19.7 billion, actually, oil uses.
Yeah, they had a shift and said that this is waking the people up too fast.
We might want to cut back on prices.
You may very well be right.
I mean, uh, but the other thing, the other reason I think they want to cut the price of oil is they've done this repeatedly before.
They go up and down.
And they did it in the early 1980s.
And you say, why would they possibly lower the price of oil intentionally?
Well, very simply because that way you get rid of competition.
And there were a lot of people in the, uh, 1982, 83, 84 were out there, you know, they were wildcatters, they were,
I think so.
Well, that's happened over and over again.
They let, they jack up oil prices for a while, and then they lower it again.
They admit it's come out in their own documents to bankrupt all of their competition.
This is what I want to do for the last 15 minutes we have.
I want to give the number out to listeners, but specifically only for Lindsey William and Dr. Stan Monteith on energy, on oil,
On the issues we've been talking about in the last hour.
1-800-259-9231.
1-800-259-9231.
And specifically on this issue, and we'll go to your calls here in just a few minutes.
Dr. Monteef, the gear up of the police state, what do you think they're gearing it up for?
Well, I think they want to take away our freedom, you know.
It is the most amazing thing, Alex, and I know you're aware of this, but maybe your listeners are not, but this housing bill they passed last week to help, you know, the people who are losing their homes.
What does it include?
Why everybody working for the mortgage industry is going to have to be fingerprinted.
How many people in the listening audience believe that the reason we have a housing crisis is because the people who work in the housing industry and the financial industry aren't fingerprinted?
And then the other thing was, as part of this legislation, all of the records of everything you purchase with a credit card will now be sent to the Internal Revenue Service.
How many people think that we had a housing crisis because the IRS didn't have a record of everything you buy?
I mean, this is the most incredible thing, how they greet these crises.
And then they use them as a cover to collect these dossiers on American citizens.
You're absolutely right, Alex.
They are planning on a dictatorship in America.
I know you've probably seen that clip of the film from the Iran-Contra hearings where Congressman Jack Brooks is trying to bring out the fact that there's a plan.
He's asking Oliver North about the plan.
You know, to suspend the Constitution and put people in concentration camps.
And now we're alive when all of this is coming to fruition.
We're now, all the globalist set-ups, all their global manipulations to bring in this world government, to bring down the U.S.
We are now, to make China and Russia the new powerhouses.
We are now here at that point.
What would you say, Dr. Monteith,
Pastor Williams, what would you say to the police and military right now who are finally listening to us and finally realize just how real all this is?
Well, I would say, first, your loyalty is the Constitution, not to the people in positions of command.
And when push comes to shove, and when they try to declare this dictatorship, which they will do under one guise or another, you're going to have to decide where your loyalty is.
I hope it will be with the Constitution and with the American people, and not with the elitists who control our military and control the reins of power.
And through federal extension of gifts to the local police force, now we have, in many instances, a
A federal militarized local police force is under control of the federal government.
What we need to do is take America back.
Alex, I've done some investigations since I was contacted a few weeks ago.
I am amazed.
I can't give their names because I'm not allowed to.
I wish I could name over the air, which I won't.
The number of top oil company officials that I knew when I was in Prudhoe Bay
On the Trans-Alaska Oil Pipeline that have moved to a safe haven.
I know where they are.
I've been able to make contact.
Cook Islands, New Zealand.
It is amazing how they've moved out of certain... Hold on, let me ask you.
Cook Islands, New Zealand, Switzerland?
Uh, they've gone to some safe spots in America.
Many of them have moved to Alaska and gotten back out away from all of it.
Montana?
Well, all I know is that a lot of the rich people I know have been leaving the last three years.
Dick Cheney buying a house in Dubai.
Blackwater moving offshore.
Halliburton to Dubai.
But you're saying Dubai is going to be even worse.
They're making preparations for themselves.
And you can be assured that they know what's in the wind.
Okay, let's take a call.
Al in Los Angeles.
You're on the air.
Go ahead.
Alex, I was wondering...
Where is it that you can find that specific phrase, uh, North American Union?
Oh, well it's in Council on Foreign Relations documents where they talk about North American integration.
Uh, we've got Vicente Fox on video.
We are change interviewing him.
It's actually in the extras of, uh, I know it's in the film, uh, in Truth Rising.
We say, you want to set up a North American Union, right?
That's the plan.
He says, yes, that's what we want.
It's in Council on Foreign Relations published books.
It's going back 50 years.
The New York Times has reported on the plan to set that up.
I mean, Dr. Monteith, do you want to comment on this?
Well, the Council on Foreign Relations published a book called Building a North American Community.
And they actually published it.
I purchased it from them.
This is what they want, a North American community, a North American Union.
It is simply part of a master plan.
First of all, to unite Europe, and then to unite North America, and South America, and Africa, and Asia, and the Asian-Rim countries.
They know exactly what they're doing.
And they always deny that there's going to be a North American Union, or there's going to be an Asian Union, or an African Union, or a Mediterranean Union, or a European Union.
I mean, they just last year had the 50th anniversary of the Treaty of Rome.
Yeah, I was just also wondering if you could put that up in your famous quote section on your website.
You know, we've posted all the articles and everything else a hundred times.
I don't have the staff to... We need to get a bigger internet staff.
I'm planning on trying to hire some more web people.
I mean, you have no idea.
I'm not whining.
I'm literally working constantly.
I was here at midnight last night.
Dr. Monti, if you want to comment?
Well, I know how hard you work, Alex, and the people out there have to understand that
All of us here on the Patriot Movement have limited funds, and you just need a lot more help, and I appreciate everything you do.
I know how hard you work.
I know my poor wife.
The bulwark of what we do, she works 12 to 14 hours a day just to raise the funds.
We don't get a cent out of this.
We do it because we're trying to save America.
Yeah, I mean, I've posted the info over and over and over again, had guests on over and over and over again, and we do need to make sections that are easier with the basics, but it's all there.
We can't direct you to all of it.
Thank you for the call.
We're going to skip this break for InfoWars.com stream listeners.
They gotta do this now more and more because this info is too important, too powerful.
So when the podcast everything goes out, you'll be able to hear what's behind the scenes.
Also, PrisonPlanet.tv members are watching this live on the web.
And the final segment is also straight ahead.
I thought we'd play that Walter Cronkite clip where he talks about how much he loves the devil and the world government.
John?
You know that little intro you made that has the Walter Cronkite part?
Yes, sir.
Let's come out of this break with that for everybody.
Okay, just that whole track?
Yeah, I mean, we'll play about a minute of it.
Let's go to Fred in Philly right now.
Fred in Philly, you're on the air.
Go ahead.
Come along, Fred.
You're on the air worldwide.
Yeah, I want to take a position that's in between Chapman and Mr. Williams.
And that is, I don't really think that
You can exactly control a level or create a level price of crude oil, commodity like that, if you don't control all the other factors, creation of money, the total demand.
Refining.
Right, and I do think that it may be attempted, but let's not jump to conclusions about
What will happen or won't happen?
Well, we've got a guest on who's proven to be credible in the past, who's saying his source told him that.
Time will tell.
I'm not saying this will happen.
I believe Lindsey, he's right there, he believes it, and I think he believes it.
So, you know, we'll see what happens.
Now, the other thing is that I think that you still have this, Alex, you still have this phenomenon of you need a tremendous amount of more of engineers, technicians, legal staff.
That's tending to keep
Uh, price of this high because...
You never thought that energy was as complicated as this.
No, it is.
I hear you.
Good points.
Let me get a comment from... Let me just point out that, of course, if you see what happened in April, consumption here in the United States, it was down from about 20.5 or 20.7 billion barrels a day, down to about 19.7 billion barrels a day.
And yet, during April, with the demand... Wasn't it millions of barrels?
Wasn't it millions of barrels?
Millions of barrels, yeah.
That is what we consume here.
Millions of barrels per day.
And we were using less, but the price was up.
That's right.
The question is, why was that?
Well, simply it was all the manipulation on the commodity exchange.
And the commodity speculators were driving up the price while there was plenty of oil.
And certainly my latest newsletter goes into the background of that.
People from even the oil companies were saying there's plenty of oil out there.
Now, why did commodity speculators drive up the price of oil?
Well, part of it was for profit.
But why didn't the commodity regulators under the Bush administration stop them?
They could stop that tomorrow.
We saw them do that back in 1980 with the price of silver.
They wanted to break the price of silver.
They did.
And yet, they refused to intervene.
In other words, they wanted the price to go up, and they allowed it to go up in violation of our laws.
The commodity market is manipulated.
Okay.
We're going back live, Dr. Monti.
Here we go.
Final segment with both you gentlemen.
We may even go into overdrive a little bit, but I doubt it.
Here we go.
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Yeah, thank you very much, Alex.
This is from Holland, the first state, one of the three first states of the European Union.
And I've got two quick things just to throw in the basket.
I'm a Christian myself, and I am a strong believer of prophecy, and I've been exposed right now to the $50 per barrel news, and I had one hour to think about it, and the more I think about it, the more prophecy starts to fill in and take places, with Russia becoming a much larger portion and getting
Much larger portion of oil and the effect also that says in prophecy, you know, don't harm the oil.
In revelations it says don't harm the oil and I differ with Dr. Bob Chapman.
About the attack on Iran.
I hear you.
You think it's on.
We gotta jump.
Call me back tomorrow.
Everybody else, J. David.
Gentlemen, this is too important.
Can I get both of you back on tomorrow for another hour to flesh this out and take people's comments and questions?
Dr. Monteith and Lindsey Williams.
I'm always available for you.
Okay, let's check schedules here on air.
Worldwide transmission right now.
Lindsey Williams, when is it a good time for you tomorrow?
This same time tomorrow is fine.
You name the time.
Okay, how about 1.30 Central Time tomorrow, sir?
How about West Coast Time?
That would be... That would be 11.30.
11.30.
No, it would be 10.30.
You know what?
I'm going to have my producer call you both in about two minutes and we'll set it up, okay?
Okay, fine.
Thank you, gentlemen, because we also have Webster Tarpley tomorrow for two hours, but we'll get them all in.
Retransmission on the internet.
AM and FM will be back tomorrow or when it rebroadcasts later, but internet, it all restarts right now at one place.
Infowars.com on the streams right there.
God bless you.