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Big Brother.
Mainstream media.
Government cover-ups.
You want answers?
Well, so does he.
He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
Yeah, I think.
Because at half-past nine this morning, we were actually running an exercise for over a company of a thousand people in London, based on simultaneous bombs going off precisely at the railway stations that happened this morning.
So I still have the hairs on the back of my neck standing upright.
Did you get this quite straight?
You were running an exercise to see how you would cope with this, and it happened while you were running the exercise?
And it was about half-past nine this morning.
We planned this for a company, and for obvious reasons, I don't want to reveal their name, but they're listening and they'll know it.
The only thing I have, we're a little bit under budget.
We're funded by the Arts Council.
It's a very low budget.
We don't get paid for this at all.
We just get sent out on these missions to interview celebrities.
One thing I won't follow is, you're filming me now aren't you?
Mr. Power, we'd like to know who were running mock terror drills for 7-7?
Which company were you working for?
You say there were precise times at the precise three stations.
Have you any comment on that?
Why have you not been investigated, or the company investigated?
Why have you not investigated, Mr. Power?
52 people died in those bombings, Mr. Power.
52 people died in those power...
52 people died, Mr. Power.
Did you know which three stations?
Who helped you choose those three stations?
How many people knew, Mr. Power?
Would you choose one?
How many of the clients knew that those were simulated targets?
Welcome ladies and gentlemen.
Welcome and thank you for joining us.
It is the live edition
Friday edition, the 14th day of December, 2007.
Headline, Peter Power flees from confrontation on 7-7 Terror Grill.
Former Scotland Yard official refuses to answer questions about who the exercise was conducted for.
Our intel, of course, is London Underground.
Are the exact same trains being bombed at the exact same time, at the exact same locations?
That is more than 1 in 24, correct-a-gillion, or billions of times all the grains of sand in all the world that that would happen, covered in my film, Terror Storm, a history of government-sponsored terror.
And now, We Are Change UK went to one of his events and just asked him about it, and Mr. Power literally ran into a closet, into a room, small room, and locked himself in it with no one until they were forced out of the building.
He would not answer that question.
You're saying, why does this matter if you're a new listener?
Oklahoma City.
World Trade Center first attack.
The Russian bombings that happened in 99 that Putin carried out.
They always run drills to cover it.
Because most of the government is not involved in the terror op, and that's when other agencies pick up chatter, pick up intelligence.
If police or others see something suspicious and stop government agents, they just say,
I was carrying out a drill, that's all.
This satchel of explosives is part of a drill.
When Moscow police in 1999 caught the Federal Security Bureau slash KGB planting bombs in a fourth building that had already blown up three apartment complexes, killing hundreds each time, the Moscow police caught them, arrested them, and Putin had them released, had the police station raided and the hexogen bombs taken back, plastic explosives, Russian military grade, and they said in the news it was just a drill.
Yes, it's always just a drill, isn't it?
So that's some of the big news today up on PrisonPlanet.com and InfoWars.com.
Peter Power flees from confrontation on 7-7 Terror Drill.
The managing director of the company that eerily and some charged suspiciously were running drills identical to the events that unfolded on 7-7 in London had to flee from members of We Are Change UK this week
When he was asked to explain who had hired his consultancy firm to run exercises that coincided with the bombing.
Peter Power, head of Visor Consultants, was a former Scotland Yard official working at the time with Anti-Terror Branch.
This and a lot more on the other side.
We've got Naomi Wolf joining us for Part 2 of our interview.
Daniel Estelin from Spain.
We Are Change UK today.
Trevor Lyman and a lot more.
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We had 80 entries to the Radio and TV Advant Ball Contest.
I will be announcing first, second, and third place by the end of the broadcast transmission today.
I literally, I had friends over last night, a rare occurrence for dinner, and then afterwards I tried to continue judging.
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Peter Power flees from confrontation on 7-7 Terror Drill.
This is a big deal.
We are Change UK.
Again, we just played the audio of that.
Went up and started asking him, hey, 50 plus people died in these bombings.
You said you were running drills at the exact same locations, exact same time.
That's impossible.
I mean, that's just off the charts.
That's like being struck a hundred times by lightning in the same location.
I mean, the math is even more insane than that.
Uh, it's, what, one and twenty-something trek of a gillion.
It's got forty-two zeros on it, ladies and gentlemen.
So, uh, we will be getting into that.
Also, this broke yesterday after months of being in the Mexican and Latin American news.
It finally percolated into U.S.
Daily Kos picked up on it.
Curt Nemo's written a great article about it up on TruthNews.us.
Crashed Gitmo Torture Jet.
Did double duty as Coke Mule.
And it had tons of cocaine, 3.3 tons of cocaine on the high-tech jet.
And of course, a CIA aircraft.
Whose trajectory was to fly into the United States.
Into Texas.
And of course it crashed going over the Yucatan Peninsula.
Killing all aboard.
And loaded with 3.3 tons of pure Peruvian flake.
That of course would hit the streets.
And SWAT teams would bust in lots of doors to stop the evil drugs.
And then the big banks, that wanted the money, literally own every one of the major private prisons, so they get double duty.
The police get to seize the money and keep it and expand their militarized system.
The prisons owned by the drug dealers get to expand.
The police state gets to ever rise further, and there have been hundreds of cases of C-130s and jets crashing all over the U.S.
and all over Latin America with CIA pilots, government agents, DEA agents, CIA officers.
I've interviewed Terry Reid, CIA officer.
He thought he was just training pilots for operations in Latin America, and he saw them unloading the cocaine month after month, saw Bill Clinton show up at the airbase.
He just couldn't put up with it and spoke out.
Wrote Clinton, Bush, and the CIA.
Celica Stillo, head of the DEA in Latin America, watched the CIA at Tilipongo and other air bases loading tons of cocaine daily.
I mean, it's just a public operation.
It's been in the cover of Esquire, it's been
Local police many times have busted planes at airfields from Texas to Florida to Illinois to California and the guys will just pull out CIA badges, the FBI shows up and says back off, the DEA has busted airplane after airplane with the government flying in cocaine, heroin and other goodies, huge plane loads of ecstasy being flown in from Israel and it's always government agents flying the aircraft.
They just say shut up!
I mean, literally, the cops will pull guns on them, and the CIA will pull guns and say, back off, hold up their badges, feds show up and chew out the police, and the police put their tail between their legs and walk off.
That's how it works.
But your zit-faced teenage son gets caught with some cocaine, and he's going to be going away for five years on average.
It's just an absolute, complete, and total travesty.
As the corporate media discusses ad nauseum the waterboarding of one of the CIA's own, the mentally ill Patsy, another story has surfaced, but not one you will likely see any time soon on the front page of the New York Times.
On September 24, 2007, and one report says Florida, one says Texas-based, Florida-based Gulfstream II jet aircraft numbered nine
N987SA crashed in the Yucatan, Southern Mexico.
As it turns out, not only was the plane used by the CIA rendition flights from Europe and the United States to the Guantanamo torture chamber, but it was loaded with tons of cocaine when it went down.
El Nuno Herald reported that the CIA plane was loaded with up to 3.3 tons of coke in Medellin, Colombia,
And was used to ferry hundreds of detainees, including alleged members of the Taliban, to Cuba for waterboarding and other specialties.
A sharp-eyed Daily Kos blogger found the news article on El Nuevo Herald's website.
He was smart enough to screen capture the page because
As should be expected, the original news story had since found its way into the memory hole and was removed.
It was, however, picked up by the Mexican blog La Paca Madrid News.
I was recently listening to one of my favorite radio programs that is broadcast on 99.5 FM in New York City, hosted by the tough-as-nails Michael Levine, one of the most highly-decorated DEA agents in the agency's history.
The subject matter was about the plane being linked to the CIA Torture Flights ranks blogger.
You can see a YouTube clip of that radio show.
The guy Mr. Levine had on his program was Bill Conroy, a former Gary Webb-inspired investigative journalist who writes for Narco News Publisher.
As well as Alexander Cockburn's counterpunch.
And then it just goes on to say the particular Gulfstream 2, telenumber N987SA, was used between 2003 and 2005 by the CIA for at least three trips between the U.S.
East Coast and Guantanamo Bay, home to the infamous terrorist prison camp.
According to a number of press reports, the suggestion is that the CIA plane was flying a huge quantity of drugs towards the U.S.
We're good to go.
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Now, we talked about this three years ago.
People said this just didn't exist.
See, they do that to neutralize opposition.
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That's the whole point of it.
The UN has officially announced that the fear-mongering about man-made global warming has been designed to justify, all along, a global carbon tax, which will do nothing to reduce carbon emissions, but everything to feed... Yeah, even if you believe that man-made carbon is bad, this doesn't reduce it, it actually increases it.
Because the third world makes no cuts, all industry will move there.
A global carbon tax will do nothing to reduce carbon emissions, but everything to feed the Trump of world government.
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Following a discussion entitled, A Global CO2 Tax, that's the UN's document, a UN panel yesterday urged the adoption of a global burden sharing system
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Now let me read a quote from the UN document, which we have a link to.
A global CO2 tax.
That's what it's called.
Global tax, okay?
In the trillions of dollars.
This is to fund global government.
They're proposing hundreds of new taxes, and now both parties say they're going to adopt it, and the SPP documents from September 2006 state that they wanted to have a stealth implementation of carbon tax through the NAU.
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Now there's another story I haven't even gotten to yet that is so unbelievable it's off the chart.
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Now going to Naomi Wolf, her bio,
She is lengthy, she is a best-selling author of multiple books, and she is our guest today.
Naomi, instead of myself going through, for ten minutes, your bio, tell folks a little bit about yourself, and then I want to recap the ten steps towards fascism that you cover in your new book, The End of America, and then get into some of the other issues we didn't discuss when you were on with us two weeks ago.
Thank you so much, Alex.
Well, I'm the mother of two, and let's see, I got a BA from Yale, a graduate degree, or I'm sorry, not a degree, graduate studies at Oxford.
I was a Rhodes Scholar.
I did write six books.
Luckily, some of them have been international bestsellers.
Really happy.
And usually I write about gender issues, but the emergency we're in called me to write the most recent book about the crisis facing us as there's this intense subversion of democracy.
And what I saw is echoes from from history, from the
An early 20th century totalitarian and fascist history to put in place the same ten steps that would-be dictators always used to close down a democracy.
So that's briefly who I am.
Now last time we only got through about nine of them.
We had to hurry because I was always adding comments and so were you.
Run through, you got the floor, the ten steps and then I want to get into the Bush-Nazi connection, your questions about the 9-11 official story and the whole left-right paradigm.
But first, the ten steps, what your book covers.
And can I just say, Alex, I'm pleased to be talking with you again, because apparently I got in trouble for talking with you last time.
And I really believe in a democracy.
There should be nothing, you know, no questions that citizens have that are off limits.
So, yeah.
What do you mean you got in trouble?
Well, I did some right-wing radio, which, again, I'm happy to do because I'm eager to reach out to people across the political spectrum.
I think that's what democracy is about.
And a couple of very prominent right-wing radio hosts yelled at me for talking to you, because that's supposed to be beyond the pale.
So I'm delighted to be talking to you again.
Was one of them Lord Medved?
Yes, Michael Medved.
Yeah, the guy that publicly goes to the White House and publicly is videotaped and photographed getting marching orders from Bush.
You mean that guy?
Well, I don't know about that, but all I know is... Oh yeah, that was in the New York Times.
Remember last year?
They went, and all the neocon hosts, but go ahead.
I got an email about it, but I didn't hear it.
What did he say to you?
Oh, you know, I don't want to sort of get into sort of mudslinging, but I guess his position is that some of what you believe is sort of at the far reaches of the conventional discourse... Oh, he has said that I'm treasonous.
He's throwing the treason word around at you?
Well, that's step number eight.
I'm sorry to hear that.
But anyway, I strongly believe, and I'll say it again, that in a democracy, there are no questions citizens have that are off-limits.
There's no conversation that should be off-limits.
We've got the First Amendment, and that, you know, I personally believe people should talk across all kinds of party lines and belief systems to enrich our discussions.
So I'm delighted to be talking to you in your community.
Ha ha ha.
Well, I'm delighted, too.
So, shall I go through the ten steps?
Thank you.
Yeah, we had a fantastic conversation last time, and I'm so happy to be picking it up again.
So, the first step, as we mentioned, is that all would-be dictators.
And again, I looked at Germany in the 30s, Russia in the 30s, Italy in the 20s, East Germany in the 50s, Czechoslovakia in the 60s, Pinochet's coup in Chile in 1973, and China's crackdown.
I think?
Thank you.
We're good to go.
The sixth thing they do is target key individuals.
I was just saying the ACLU has multiple lawsuits because agents of the state are infiltrating so many, you know, benign civilian groups, anti-war groups, environmental groups and so on.
So they'll target key individuals and that means people like Dan Rather who lost his job.
When he ran a report critical of Bush.
People like Bill Maher, who lost his job when he said something.
The Dixie Chicks, who had these orchestrated burnings of their CDs and their careers were at stake.
And then, you know, the targeting goes from smears and political, I'm sorry, professional repercussions to arrests and investigations.
We're seeing this politician in Alabama got railroaded.
We're seeing
Thank you.
I think so.
Which has given people in our nation's history 10 year sentences for giving speeches about the First Amendment and closed down dissent for a decade.
Let's see, the ninth thing that happens, you just mentioned it, is that criticism gets recast as treason and dissent as espionage.
And that's when you start to see things like, this is right out of Hitler's playbook and Stalin's playbook, you start to see things like, let's see, it's called H.R.
1959, the bill that passed
By 404 to a handful out of the House and is now going to the Senate, which would basically criminalize conversations like this.
It would criminalize thought.
It would criminalize, you know, a blog I wrote yesterday saying that we should appoint a special prosecutor to investigate what happened to the missing CIA tapes.
When that law passes, God forbid, you know, it'll in a way be over because any of us can be kind of
Round it up and arrest it and face a great deal of difficulty for thinking things or saying things, which is a hallmark of a closing society, what I call a fascist shift.
The last step is to make it easier to declare martial law and to subvert the rule of law.
And there are a number of ways to close things down with the final step.
You don't always need a march on Rome like in Italy in 1920 or Night of the Long Knives.
I don't think so.
that are being subpoenaed would indicate that they wanted to do.
Goebbels did this in 1933.
Because then you can have an election, but, you know, if all your guys are deciding the outcome or deciding who to prosecute in terms of voter registration, you know, the outcome is foreordained.
Or you can deploy Blackwater, for instance, who now has a presence in Illinois and is trying to build a presence in San Diego to monitor the border.
Or you can federalize the National Guard, which the Defense Authorization Act of 2007
Essentially did, giving the President alone the power to declare martial law and tell, you know, send the National Guard of one state out to subdue the citizens of another state without the consent of the governors of either state and tell Congress about it after the fact.
So we are in a terrible crisis because all these 10 steps are in place.
Absolutely, and I would say from my knowledge of those 10 steps, that you're even erring on the side of caution.
And as bad as what you talked about sounds, it's actually much worse.
On the martial law front, Presidential Decision Directive 51, Bush says he is above Congress and his Supreme Dictator.
All of these memos have been coming out where they say the President decides what is constitutional.
Naomi, you specifically advised the Clinton White House... Well, I mean, specifically, what did you do in the Clinton White House?
Sure, I'll tell you, but let me just step back a minute.
When you mentioned Presidential Directive 51, if that's the name of it, I just want to note that a crucial turning point in the closing down of Germany, which had been a parliamentary democracy, was when Hitler passed a law that essentially gave him the same powers.
But I've seen you on television and places talk about how you know the Clintons and you say that they're good folks who really want to help people.
And Naomi, I think you're a good person.
I think you're very intelligent and I've read some of your books and a lot of your writings and I believe you mean well and I believe you're very intelligent.
But specifically, and this isn't some Clinton bash fest, I want to talk about the left-right paradigm here for a moment.
I saw you at a meeting where there were obviously a lot of leftists even asking you, well hey, aren't the Clintons bad too?
What did you do with the Clintons?
Yeah, let me be super, super clear so I'm not overstating my knowledge or participation.
I know them slightly.
My children's father knows them intimately because he wrote a number of President Clinton speeches and Mrs. Clinton speeches during the, I believe, first and second Clinton term.
And so every day he was working with them, so I watched the
You know, we're working with his staff, so I watch the process very close up, and I, you know, watch the development of the ideas and the speeches, and I, you know, know a number of the people who work with him, so my sense of them, you know, I've met them briefly socially at events, but my sense of them for many people who work intimately with him is that they're decent, well-intended people who have made a lot of
You know, the kinds of compromises that people make when they're engaging with this really horrible power structure.
Well, let me just explain why I brought this up.
It's this.
I mean, a lot of people, what you'd call from the traditional left, they're well-meaning, they're caring people, they really believe in what they're doing, they're right on a lot of issues, wrong on some other issues from my constitutionalist-slash-libertarian perspective, historically.
The reason I raise this is, I've been talking about the police state since I got on there 13 years ago.
I knew about civilian inmate labor camp programs when they were declassified in 97.
They've been going on for a decade with prisoners being taken to military bases.
I knew about all these things.
And before Bill Clinton, before Jimmy Carter, the apparatus of the military industrial complex and the defense contractors controlled by the big central banks of the world and the Fortune 100 were already writing white papers wanting to build up
I don't
Yes, we are.
And you're bringing your great gravitas and acumen to this.
My issue is, I'm telling you from my research, it's crystal clear, this is a larger underlying agenda by the bureaucracy, by the global corporate interest, and so I'm just hoping we can get people like yourself to shift this out of just a George Bush discussion into a larger discussion.
Well, that's fascinating, Alex, because, you know, the conclusion you're reaching, you're sort of meeting the extreme left, you know, where a number of them have gone when they, you know, people who like protest the World Trade Organization and who basically say that democracy is a sort of stand and a cover for corporate interests, which are sort of the moving, moving powers in the global, not only economy, but political sphere now, and that everything else is just window dressing.
I mean, I was just reading Chalmers Johnson.
I don't know.
And, like, what can you do when you, you know, reach that sense of, well, there's bedrock here of these interests that are, you know, unassailable.
But, Naomi, I think we have to assess just how bad it really is or any fixes or blaming it all just on Bush instead of the underlying cause.
I mean, I want to stop this.
I want to reverse it.
Well, OK, I just want to say one thing.
When I was watching the Clinton terms close up and when I was working
On the Gore campaign, formally, not doing what the RNC, you know, mythically spun that I was doing, which was sort of some weird wardrobe thing, but advising women's issues and getting out the youth vote.
I did see that people who are engaging in democracy were able to pass some good laws and constrain some excesses.
Oh, there's no doubt that the citizens have power and that we're in the game.
I'm not saying it's all over and, you know, they have total air superiority.
I'm just saying we need to assess that this is both parties, this is system-wide.
Bush is just the most virulent manifestation of an overall illness.
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Lawyers for victims of 9-11 and people in the surrounding area are bringing forward evidence.
We already knew this, but Christina Todd Whitman,
Reported to the White House that it was horrible asbestos, mercury dust, the thousands of mercury switches in the thermostats, the computers, very toxic.
Tens of thousands of computers.
I think so.
And Bush told her, suppress it.
And that's now been declassified.
That's now come out.
They took the bodies, the remains of half the victims, or 47% of the victims, and they put them in the landfill, then used that for aggregate to fill potholes, Associated Press.
Naomi, of course, lives there.
Her son got asthma after all this happened, and you can put two and two together.
So, Osamie, just from that perspective of them lying to us, you say you have some questions about 9-11.
Can you talk about, first off, the dust?
Well, let me just be super clear again because there are so many people waiting to take things out of context.
I know that, you know, my son was a few blocks away from Ground Zero and stayed there because, you know, Christy Whitman said the air is safe to breathe and I couldn't believe at that time that the government lied to us about something so substantial.
And I know that my son, you know, does have, you know, breathing problems.
But I don't know.
I don't have a smoking gun to say that one leads to the next, although I can say my mother's instinct, and I've said this in public, felt that it wasn't safe to be in the area, that it was something very, very toxic going on.
And I'm, of course, sorry now that we didn't err on the side of caution and move the children out of the city during that time.
But, I mean, now we've had hundreds and hundreds of firefighters and police and medical workers have died, and we have the media still kind of playing that down.
I mean, the cold-bloodedness of just telling everybody in all those dozens of schools in the area and hundreds of businesses, thousands of businesses, that it's safe.
I mean, again, that illustrates just the ruthlessness of these people.
Well, there, I do have to agree with you.
I mean, though I don't know that one caused the other, I do know that it is
Yeah, I think so.
I'm not happy that I breathed all that stuff, you know, that my loved ones did.
I mean, you know, people were wearing, you know, masks outside, and our children were wearing masks.
And then at a certain point, it's like, because C. Whitman says, you don't have to wear the mask.
Okay, we'll take our masks off.
And that was really a brutal, cold-hearted, devastating moment.
So when, you know, in terms of 9-11, all I know is that
I've gone across the country and I've met a lot of people talking about these issues and I have met a lot of very serious, credible, sensible people with various knowledge bases who would like more information or who have a sense of unease or who feel like more questions need to be asked and more responsibly answered about
You know, that whole narrative, and I do feel, and I've said this in public and I'll say it again, you know, 60 percent, I think, of citizens in the U.S.
now think that we're not getting the whole truth from the government, and so that's a substantial amount of unease, and that's not a good sign in a democracy.
Well, Naomi, we've got, well, we're going to come back in the next little five-minute segment and talk about it.
I just want to point out a few things for you about 9-11.
I mean, I'm sure you're probably really aware of them, and you're valiantly in your prominent position even hinting at this, but, or your questions, but we need to discuss government-sponsored terror, which has been declassified hundreds of times just by our government.
When we get back, then we're also going to talk about solutions to this whole police state that's being set up.
We'll be back with Naomi Wolf in 70 seconds.
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The CIA was running drills of flying hijacked jets into the exact same targets at the exact same time that day, and the drills caused NORAD to be confused and basically stand down.
Cheney was in the bunker.
We've talked to Mineta two times since then, Transportation Secretary.
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I mean, I'm just listing a few of these things.
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Robert Baer on this show.
The movie Siriana's about him.
He's said all the evidence points towards inside job.
I mean, what do you say to that, Naomi?
Well, I guess one thing I say, since, you know, I hang out with people who run the mainstream media and they don't have the sinister motivations that people can attribute to them, is if all of these pieces are so well sourced, why is this not being put together in a more kind of a mainstream context?
That's A. B, and I'm sure you'll tell me in a minute, but my next statement, and I'm again happy to go on the record with this, is that I've been doing a lot of reading about history, whether it's, you know, very well sourced books like Overthrow, which is about American
I don't know.
A foreign policy goal or even a domestic policy goal that can't benefit otherwise.
And she said that, you know, British colonialism kind of perfected it.
It's just, you know, part of the tool in the toolkit.
And she mentioned a number of incidences and she said, you know, British colonialism is the teacher for U.S.
And I know that... What are a few of those examples?
This is intriguing.
It is intriguing.
Well, I'm still researching it.
But she mentioned, too, that I can shoot you by email and you can post them once I follow up with her.
In overthrow, you can see a number, and you can look at the regime change in Nicaragua and in the Philippines, and I think Cuba.
And again, I don't have the details to give you right now.
Well, let me just give them to you.
There's over 200 U.S.
declassified examples of where they admit
They blew up school buses, bombed buildings, shot people.
You ever seen the Graham Greene, uh, Graham Greene, Quiet American movie?
Well, that's fictionalized, but based on real... Are they real?
Yeah, but the movie is, is, is, is, is fictionalized, but it's based on real things that happened in Vietnam, where the CIA early on in the, in the, in the early 60s, they were taking over from the, uh, French and Indochina, would just blow up a market, and then
Have the news put out that the North Vietnamese did it.
And, uh, it's just standard operating procedure.
And so, yes, uh, I figured you'd be informed on that.
So if they do it over and over again and admit they've done it, why now are we supposed to believe them when they have the motive?
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We're talking about, you know, even if it's such a dark
We're good.
There's a subconscious fear hanging back even myself.
I had pangs of fear during the last break thinking, my gosh, I'm exposing hardcore murderers who will go wipe out whole villages and blame it on somebody else.
I mean, you know, who will blow up apartment buildings and blame it on somebody else in Latin America or in Russia or in the U.S.
or in England.
And they'll come, you know, they can come and kill me tomorrow.
But by being vocal, by being up front, by getting out on the field and saying, I'm ready to stand up against you, that gives you the ultimate safety.
If we become like a third world nation and just give in to corruption, give in to police with machine guns on the street corners, third world banana republic, it's over.
And I don't think our police and military want that.
Most our military are good people.
Most our police are good people.
Most intelligence folks are good.
They're compartmentalized.
They're out doing good things or collecting data they think is for good that is then compartmentalized out and then put together down the chain.
I mean, Naomi, here's an example.
I've interviewed a lot of Rhodes Scholars, and most of them, you know, believe in global harmony and love and believe in globalism because, you know, it's everyone working together in community of nations and feeding and helping the poor.
But they haven't actually read the writings of Cecil Rhodes.
So, I mean, there's your answer.
You asked me during the break, why doesn't the media, and I'm not trying to pontificate, but you asked the question, so I'm trying to give you my answer.
I'm not saying it's totally correct.
I want your view.
But, uh, you know, you were saying, well, if this is all documented and sourced, and I'm raising some issues that you've sourced yourself, uh, then why isn't the mainstream media reporting?
A lot of it is a cage of their own mind.
They're in the system.
They're in the controlled left-right paradigm.
I mean, you're very intelligent, probably a lot smarter than I am, higher IQ.
You know, you're just now learning about a lot of this.
So my point is, there's so much width and breadth of history and sociology and society and the geopolitical strata and makeup that these people don't know about that, and they're within a controlled paradigm.
I mean, does that make any sense?
Yeah, it actually does, and I want to say two things very clearly.
One is that in saying, in my saying, history is full of examples of staged provocations, including in countries like Britain and the U.S., I'm not saying that we know that this was a staged provocation that we're talking about.
I don't know.
What I'm saying is that it is not rational to rule out anything, given how replete the historical record is.
You know, of such things, including by our own government.
That's why we need a rigorous investigation.
And, you know, all I've said before, and I think it's legitimate, is that, you know, how can we be satisfied with the investigation areas if the 9-11 families aren't satisfied?
The second thing is we just found out that the 9-11 Commission was denied, you know, knowledge of these tapes that would have shown, and I've just blogged about this and I'm very proud of my blog, it's about torture and it's about America's use of torture.
And, you know... Stop right there!
Plug your blog!
Have you read the Army report about them raping them with battery acid?
No, I missed that one.
Read the Abu Ghraib General Tugumbu.
He's the Filipino three-star general.
Read his report.
It's public.
These things are horrible.
It's like the archives at Yad Vashem.
The book I was using is documents the ACLU just got from a FOIA request.
It's called Administration of Torture.
I'll certainly go read that, but it's horrific enough.
I don't know if these guys are guilty or innocent, but I do know that guilty or innocent people confess to anything under these circumstances.
All I'm saying is it's not rational to rule things out with that rigorous investigation.
The second thing I want to say, and I'm willing to say this on the record, is that God, you know, there is such a thing as consensus reality.
I'm reading a book called
Extraordinary popular delusions in the madness of crowds, which is an historical account of how, you know, during the witch crazes, people believed that, you know, and they said, you know, all kinds of things that are just not physically possible.
They collectively believed people were flying or that they witnessed, you know, people disappearing or, you know, animals talking.
Mob psychology, militant enthusiasm.
So my only point is I think that there is this tremendous unease about
Questions that haven't been adequately investigated.
It's like in a family where there's a dysfunctional secret.
And in the wake of that, there is this kind of collective consensus not to go there.
And in a democracy, that is not healthy.
What should we do?
I mean, any way you cut it, a government that says torture is good,
A government that's doing everything the bad guys always did and actively trying to sell it to us to use it on a wider scale.
What do we do about this?
Okay, well, I agree with you that we urgently need information.
And that's why, you know, I am glad that people are using my book to put the pieces together and see the larger pattern, because we're familiar with all the details.
It's where the larger pattern shows, oh, this is what they did to close down Germany.
This is what they did to close down Italy.
That's a wake-up call.
It gives people the ability to say, wait, no, I'm not going to, you know, be subdued by this war on terror mythology into losing my rights.
The second thing we have to do, and again, look at the blog for this, we need to call for a special prosecutor to investigate the crimes of the Bush administration, and rigorously, because history shows that...
You know, there are criminals in the White House.
There are three levels of crime they've committed.
We know that.
And history shows that it's not enough to impeach people or wait them out, you know, to leave office.
That people that, you know, I do believe these people are capable of anything at this point.
And history shows that it is only safe to use the law to prosecute such people, and if found guilty to lock them up.
You know, in America, if you commit a crime, justice has to be done.
So we have to call for that.
And the third thing we have to do is really, and this is almost a spiritual recommitment,
We have to believe, each of us, that we are not going to tolerate this, and that we're not going to collude with it, and we're not going to side with, you know, evil.
That's right.
That very well said.
A daily commitment against tyranny.
A daily commitment to support justice and liberty and transparency.
A daily commitment to realize that tyranny is ancient.
Tyranny is the norm.
Liberty is that rare, holy grail type phantom that is magical and very hard to grasp even when you're educated and informed and valiantly defended.
And we're not going to be able to be a bunch of slovenly Americans taking it for granted and keep it.
And since we've had so much liberty, we don't know what it's like to have bondage.
Oh, yeah.
You're so right about that.
Yeah, and so what we have to do is kind of wake up to how easy it is to lose our liberty, that we're hanging by a thread at the moment, and really, and it is kind of a personal or emotional or spiritual commitment that then manifests as politics and action, but, you know, we have to believe in the founder's vision for ourselves, that we can't wait for someone else.
A pundit class, a professional class, a political class to defend democracy.
We, each of us, have to rise up and say no.
Well, that's exactly what I've always instinctively said.
This is great to hear.
To defend our republic, to defend our liberty.
I always tell listeners, and they call, oh Alex, thank you so much for all you do.
What would we do without you?
Folks, I'm nobody.
The power lies in you moving.
Exactly right.
And people need to understand they are just as important, if not more so, than you or me.
And the conversations they have with their colleagues, their families, their co-workers, their kids, are as important or more important than this conversation that we're having on the airwaves.
Because it's not going to do anything if people just hear what we say and then feel depressed and scared.
Don't be scared.
Feel driven.
I mean, it's kind of like we're knocking on your door and going, hey, your garage is on fire.
You don't just yell and cry and run in the closet.
You try to get out of the house.
You call the fire department.
I have to say, I really hope people listening will reach out to, like, where's the church and synagogues and, you know, where are they on this?
Like, people of faith?
I really believe that this is a call for people of faith.
I mean, I happen to believe in God, and you don't have to, to take action about this, but I do believe that this is, like, the United States is being put to a spiritual test right now.
Will we choose to collude with evil, or will we recommit to
Wow, Providence!
So you're calling on Providence?
Well, it's my personal faith.
No, I agree with you.
Oh, listen, I know that without faith and without that, I mean, that's the deepest level.
Without that realizing that it's something bigger than us just individually, we're going to be worldly and not care.
You've got to have that faith.
I mean, that's what I found at the end of the day.
I think that's right.
And I do see, you know, that lessons of history that when a number of people stand up together,
Thank you for having me.
That has great power, and it has great power to inspire other people, and I do believe it has great power to shift the tides of history.
There's one thing I really want to say loud and clear.
The historical record does show that you're right, Alex, that as a society is closing, we are most in danger, all of us, if we remain silent.
But as scary as it is, if more and more of us speak out as society is closing, it is only that that keeps us safe.
And by the way, by society closing, the iron-grated prison bars are sliding down, folks.
The drawbridge is raising up.
And they are publicly... I mean, they say they want to arrest me all the time.
National talk show hosts say it routinely.
I mean, imagine going to sleep at night when people with 10 million listeners apiece are on air saying, I need to be arrested.
That's because we're hurting them and we have power.
Naomi, I was going to let you go now, but we got one more break.
Can you stay with us to the bottom of the hour?
You know, I will try.
I should go back to my little guy, right?
I understand.
Okay, well, we've got a three-minute break and we'll come right back to you because I just want to finish up with a few other issues.
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90 plus percent of Americans don't want toll roads on existing roads.
90 plus percent of Americans don't want NAFTA now on all the major polls.
70 to 80 percent, depending on the poll, don't want the war.
It just continues.
And now both parties have got an 11% approval rating.
So the good news is the people are now waking up, not to the full ramifications, but at least they're getting an idea, but the establishment is showing that it isn't going to do what the people are demanding or what's constitutional in this republic.
What do you say to that whole quandary?
That really worries me, Alex, because I'm baffled at why with a Democratic Congress we are getting so little action, given that I know that, you know, the American Freedom Campaign
No, we're good.
Everyone in Congress, you know, has secrets, and their secrets are completely available to the Bush administration.
And, you know, as in every closing society in the past, you know, the regime sort of brings legislators records of their, you know, sexual fetishes, or their conversations with their accountants, or their, you know, most intimate secrets to intimidate and silence them.
But apart from that, I'm baffled that they are, you know, letting the Bush White House trip
And of course it turns out that the Democratic leaders all got the torture briefings.
They're all in it.
I think like you said, fear.
So fear is the big enemy, isn't it?
Yeah, but you would have to argue that these people have been, like, personally threatened or something in order to explain this level.
Well, a lot of it's power and power sharing and profit, but for a lot of others it is blackmail.
I mean, it is enemies list, it is FBI list.
I haven't seen any evidence of that.
I haven't even heard rumors about it.
People who are interfacing with Congressional Democrats say that really it's just a strategy, that they think they'll win the next election.
They just want to spit things out and not rock the boat.
Well Naomi, let's just say it.
The big war lobbies are in there giving them campaign contributions.
Yeah, that is the truth.
I mean, you know, looking at why Hillary was the last candidate that the American Freedom Campaign got to sign the pledge, and by the way, good for Ron Paul, he was the only one on the other side to sign it, to defend the Constitution.
You know, it's expensive right now for frontrunners and candidates to defend the Constitution because the telecommunications industry and the defense industry and all the major contributors are making billions out of, you know, the technology of a police state.
You're absolutely right about that.
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I think there is a silver lining in this.
People are waking up.
Folks like you are speaking out.
But in closing, because you are a Rhodes Scholar, I've got to bring this up, and I'm sure you know why the Rhodes Scholarship was set up.
You know Rhodes did want a global government based on Britannia.
I had no idea that.
No, I didn't.
I've never heard that.
I mean, I knew he was a vicious racist, but I didn't know anything about what you're telling me.
Now, I mean, I know that some Rhodes Scholars, they do recruit into the Inner Sanctum, but they never tried to recruit you.
They didn't want me, apparently.
No, no one ever tried.
I don't know what the Inner Sanctum is, Alex.
This is news to me.
How many Rhodes Scholars are there a year?
I forget.
I think 32 from the United States and others from around the world.
Yeah, well you know Rhodesia and the diamond mines and the rest of it.
Yeah, Rhodes wrote books about how he wanted to set up a global Anglo-American empire.
And I think you're going to find at the end of the day, as Professor Carol Quigley, Clinton's mentor, wrote that this is the neo-Anglo-American empire.
Now it's being rebuffed globally right now.
OK, you know, other people talk about this in different terms that would be more familiar to me.
I mean, people do talk about, of course, kind of post-colonialism, neo-colonialism.
I'm sure when Cecil Rhodes was writing, I mean, it's the height of the British colonial empire, and he was obviously a big fan of that.
And I now understand that, you know, people love war when they do because it generates such massive profits.
This has been modeled by the British Empire.
So, I think, you know, I've certainly heard about his interest in British colonialism, you know, put in different terms.
Well, what he said is they had to take the whole apparatus of British colonialism and go underground with round table groups of prominent men in power sharing, ruling over each government with a shadow system.
Nailed my role?
Oh, my God.
No, yeah.
I'm going to send you a lot of documentation on that as well.
It has been a great... Well, they never wanted me, apparently.
I was left out of the conversation.
I don't think Hare Clinton was.
Hey, thank you so much for spending time with us and have a great Christmas.
Thank you so much, Alex.
I appreciate it.
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It is just wonderful to be able to speak with you.
Of course, just a few
Weeks ago, you guys went out and confronted another individual there at the London School of Economics, so you are just doing more and more in this fight.
Thanks for coming on.
Hey Alex, this is, I think it's slight confusion, this is We Are Change Ireland.
Yeah, I was telling them to get, I guess, see my printout said We Are Change
Ireland, and I just thought that was a typo, because it was We Are Change England that confronted Peter Powers, correct?
That's correct, yeah.
Yeah, it's a guess-nafu here, and we will deal with that, but I'm going to recap and cover the story right now.
I checked and was told that was just a typo, but you guys confronted Bill Clinton, and you've been confronting others, and I meant to get you guys on a few weeks ago.
Why don't you tell folks about that?
I'm sick and tired of what's going on in Ireland.
We're the only country that can actually save the European sovereignty.
We have a constitution that we have to defeat, so basically we're just trying to inspire people at the moment to come and join us, make their own groups, come out and stop the New World Order from putting the EU together.
We have a constitutional referendum coming up here in May or June, and we're doing our very best to defeat that.
We've confronted Bill Clinton and also we've confronted the head of the political wing... I thought this was a mistake?
I'm sorry, I had my mic on while I was telling the producer.
Go ahead.
And we confronted the head of the political wing of the IRA, Gerry Adams, and his party is Sinn Féin, and we were asking about British Intel infiltrating the party and basically was his number two British agent, which Martin Ingram alleged to.
Please continue, sir.
So that's what we're doing at the moment.
We have a lot of trouble in Ireland.
We basically came over a tyranny with Britain back in the early 1920s.
We still haven't got freedom.
Now we're coming into more tyranny with a new constitution that doesn't even have habeas corpus, Alex.
Well, you know, it's great to have you on because, and I was also going to ask the We Are Change UK guys, but we got cross wires here about this.
They denied there was going to be a European Union for 30 years as they were setting it up.
Now everybody knows there is one.
Some deny that even exists.
I'm not joking when I say that.
Then for eight years they tried to force England and Ireland into it, though they've been resistant.
So really the entire UK.
And now they go sign the Constitution.
Gordon Brown won't do it in public.
They say it's about a rights treaty, but when you read it, it puts the countries under the EU government's control, not their original nation's control.
So as someone in Ireland, as someone in the Enchanted Isles, why don't you explain to people exactly what's happening here?
Well, what's happening is we are facing European police, European army, an EU constitution and a federal government in Brussels.
And this is what we're going through, like we're doing our best to fight against this.
We have more cameras going up in Dublin, we have unlimited immigration, we have no borders, we have no currency, we have no national sovereignty.
You know, we've been resisting maternity for over 800 years.
And now we're coming into more tyranny.
We're coming into a constitution that people don't even understand.
And, you know, majority of Irish people won't even listen.
And we are the only country, Alex, to stop this treaty.
Because we're the only country in Europe who has a referendum to actually stop this treaty from progressing any further.
And what we're trying to do right now, tomorrow we have a street action in Dublin.
We're meeting at the GPO in Oklahoma Street at 1pm.
And we're going to go out and we're going to hand out flyers and we're going to try and educate people and tell them about their rights.
Because people in Ireland do not even understand that they have constitutional rights.
And they think that people, the foreign people in Brussels, they think that Bert, you're hearing the Irish Prime Minister, they think that these people can call the shots.
And they can't.
Because we the people, we own this country.
The same way the Americans, you own America.
Not George Bush, not the New World Order.
Well, this is a pleasant problem to have, to have so many We Are Change groups in the UK.
You guys are out confronting Clinton and many others, and then we got our wires crossed getting We Are Change UK on.
What did you think of their confrontation with Peter Power, the author of the 7-7 Drills, matching the exact targets at the exact times at the exact locations that were hit?
Hi Alex, I'm Dave.
I thought it was very good, I think they're doing a lot of great action over in the UK and I was looking at the video there of his confrontation and he really didn't want to talk about it and he looked very and very uncomfortable as if these people are not used to being questioned at this level and it's a whole new ball game for them because they're starting to realise now that they can't just go out in public and say what they want and just go along and people say what they want and nobody questions them
And the media doesn't pick up on the lawyers?
Everywhere, you know, the head of MI5, the head of MI6 goes out to events to propagandize.
They get confronted with information.
Senator Graham goes out, he gets confronted.
Giuliani goes out, he gets confronted.
Clinton goes out, he gets confronted.
I mean, everywhere, the people are now taking action.
Yeah, um...
Well, basically, you know, we have a lot of questions about Northern Ireland, and it's a very sensitive subject here in the South.
But we live, Alex, this is how small our country is.
I live one hour from the North, the border in the North of Ireland.
And the other day we confronted Gerry Adams, and he is the head of Sinn Féin, which is the political wing of the IRA.
And we asked him about British intelligence infiltrating Sinn Féin.
And we asked about Martin McGuinness, his number two, the head of state in the North of Ireland, he's sharing power
With Ian Paisley.
We asked him, was he a British agent, which Martin Ingram alleged to.
Now, if you go back last year, we had Dennis Donaldson.
He was the number three in Sinn Fein.
And he turned out to be a British agent.
And months after he actually stated that he was a British agent, he was assassinated.
He was murdered in Donegal, just across the border in the Republic.
Well, I've had former commandos, MI5, MI6 on, it's been in the British and of course Irish news, that at the highest levels of the armed IRA, that it would literally be all British intelligence.
They were literally commanding the underlings, and when underlings wouldn't carry out shootings or bombings, they would kill them or break their legs.
Again, as a way to keep things militarized.
Because the Irish could just peacefully say, we don't want you here.
The British government would be forced to leave.
The British people don't want to be there.
And they would be forced to leave.
But if they can militarize it and make it violent, they can then use an excuse to bring in force.
Yeah, yeah.
And as you were saying earlier as well, Alex, next year now is going to be very, very important for this country.
Because we are the only country that can stop this EU treaty.
I'm going ahead.
There are 27 countries.
Not one of them, except this country, will give the people a referendum.
Now, here's another example.
We're being put into the North American Union, and they're telling the public it doesn't exist when we have their own public documents.
They're saying NAFTA highways don't exist when it's their official maps.
And it's the same strategy of stealth, where they keep saying, this isn't a treaty to take over Ireland and England, but no one's allowed to vote on it.
Only the bureaucracy is ordering you to go under our new controls.
Meanwhile, you see EU expansion, forcibly, right now.
I mean, this is the exact same thing that's happening here is happening with you.
Yeah, Alex, this is Anthony.
Well, what's happening is we set up a website, wiseupjournal.com, and we have a link there where people like the British people, Italians and French, they're not allowed to have a say on this treaty that's going to be put through.
We have a donation link there where they can actually help us defeat this.
So they can actually have a say in this, and I'm sure the heads of the EU never counted on this, that people can donate to us, and Ireland, it's only three and a half million to four million people.
This is such a small country, we can stop it.
Bring the whole thing down.
What are the polls showing right now on Ireland's entry into the EU?
They're showing that 25% are for this treaty and around 18% are against it.
But the vast majority of people don't know what's going on.
That's the problem.
But still, you're saying 80%, that mirrors Europe, 80 plus percent are against it.
England's 80 plus percent against it.
But they say you don't have a choice.
So you're saying 80% are against it.
I wonder if the poll... Sorry, 18% are against it.
But the vast majority don't know... Wow, so wait a minute.
That's the opposite of what we've seen in Europe because it's 80% against it there.
Yeah, well, the problem is, Alex, and it's like you're saying about the North American Union,
People don't know what's going on.
It's all bureaucracy.
It's a whole big maze of bureaucracy and laws.
Most people just don't have the time to look at it and see what's going on.
Well, I want to commend We Are Change Ireland and We Are Change UK.
You guys fire out your websites.
Yeah, we have two websites.
It's wacireland.org and the other one is wiseupjournal.com.
Again, give that out again because your phone's a little bit echoey.
Sorry about that.
It's W-A-C-I-R-L-A-N-D dot org.
We are changed to W-A-C.
And it's WiseUpJournal dot com.
WiseUpJournal dot com.
Gentlemen, good job.
Now, of course, what did the former head of Champaign say when you confronted him about intelligence infiltration?
Well, I went up myself, Alex.
I'm the actual person that questioned him about it.
Basically, he's a well-liked man, he's very articulate, but we went up and we asked him, is British intelligence an infiltration thing, or have they?
He said, yes, I'm sure that they have.
And I was like, really?
But he already stated this before, but the most important question that I wanted to ask was Martin Ingram's allegation saying that Martin McGuinness, his number two, was a British agent.
So the minute I said that, I said,
What about Martin Ingham's allegation saying that Martin McGuinness was a British agent?
And all of a sudden he became very uncomfortable.
He started backing off and one of his guys to the side of him was kind of trying to push me away from him.
You know, trying to force me out of place.
So I became very uncomfortable at that stage.
But what we did was... Stay there.
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What happened when we are Change Ireland.
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We're talking to We Are Change Ireland, and I found out the snafu happened.
They were scheduled for Monday, and then somehow I should get We Are Change UK on, and that turned into the boys coming on today.
I don't want to shortchange you guys.
I've got to set you up for a full 30 minutes or hour sometime in the future, because you're really getting prolific.
I've got to move fast here, gentlemen.
Uh, Keith and, uh, others, just, uh, finish up real fast with what the head of Champaign, the political arm of the IRA, that's admitted they're British until all the way, uh, what they, so as soon as you brought this up, the, uh, nice man face went away.
Yeah, well, he kind of stood back and he just said, no, no way.
Well, you could kind of see that he didn't like what I was saying.
He was very uncomfortable.
And the minute I mentioned British intelligence, the guy right next to him, you can't actually see on the footage, but he became very uncomfortable too.
So you can see that the credibility of the party and especially Gerry Adams, it's gone to the gutter really.
You know, we all know that British intelligence have infiltrated Sinn Féin and the IRA, and really, it's just about the people copping onto it at this stage.
Well, gentlemen, continue your fight against the European Union, and get a bunch of your notes together, because I'll probably want to have you on again next week if you can do it, to specifically flesh all this out, because it mirrors the same stratagem of stealth they're using here.
God bless.
Thank you very much, Alex.
You bet.
Now I want to shift gears back into originally why we wanted We Are Change UK on, and that's Peter Powers-Flees from Confrontation on 7-7 Terror Drill.
First, in this few-minute clip, three-minute clip, you hear him from BBC Radio talking about running drills at the exact same locations.
Then it cuts to him two nights ago being confronted by We Are Change UK, and he literally ran and hid in a closet, and then they made them leave.
Here it is.
Because at half past nine this morning, we were actually running an exercise for over a company of a thousand people in London, based on simultaneous bombs going off precisely at the railway stations that happened this morning.
So I still have the hairs on the back of my neck standing upright.
So you kept this quite straight.
You were running an exercise to see how you would cope with this, and it happened while you were running the exercise?
And it was about half past nine this morning.
We planned this for a company in Broadway, Sweden, so I don't want to reveal their name, but if they're listening, they'll know it.
The only thing I have, we're a little bit under budget.
We're funded by the Arts Council.
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One thing I won't tolerate is you filming me now, aren't you?
Mr. Power, we'd like to know who you're running mock terror drills for on 7-7.
Which company were you working for?
You say there's a precise time to the precise three stations.
Have you any comment on that?
Why have you not been investigated or the company investigated?
Why have you not investigated, Mr. Power?
Fifty-two people died in those bombings, Mr. Power.
Fifty-two people died in those power...
Your duty to have penetrated further has done nothing.
52 people died, Mr. Power.
How did you know which three stations?
Who helped you choose those three stations?
How many people knew before the abandonment?
How many people knew, Mr. Power?
Oh, sorry, I've got to go in here now.
Was it two times?
How many of the clients knew that those were simulated targets?
Absolutely fabulous job by We Are Change UK.
Their story up on PrisonPlanet.com.
A lot of people don't even know about the drills the government was running with Mr. Power and his company that day.
We're the one in underground, we know that.
But it's good to confront him on it.
He literally ran like a vampire would run from a gigantic crucifix.
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We're back live, ladies and gentlemen.
Already into the third and final hour of this Friday, the 14th of December 2007 transmission against tyranny.
Daniel Estelin is a resident of Spain, originally from Canada.
He's been covering Club Bilderberg for, I guess, about 16 years now, and been to more than 10 of their conferences.
And of course, I joined him in Ottawa last year.
He is a big part of Endgame, Blueprint for Global Enslavement.
His new book, The Bilderberg Group, is a bestseller all over the world and finally got published in the U.S.
and his first printing was snapped up instantaneously until the second printing.
He's on the verge of selling out.
We've got 400 of these books, ladies and gentlemen, that aren't available anywhere else right now.
I'm told the publisher just now got some, so that may be changing.
I hope you'll get them at Infowars.com.
But before we get into Bilderberg and the whole globalist agenda, I wanted to talk to Daniel about EU's expansion treaty, not letting the member states vote on it, other than Ireland.
I've heard the frightening numbers that the majority there are for it.
It's different in France and everywhere else.
They're all against it.
England's 80-plus percent against.
And how they're doing this by stealth, the same thing with the NAU integration and how they're being very deceptive along those lines.
Daniel, it's great to have you on, my friend.
Alex, it's so wonderful to be back on your show.
Good afternoon to all your listeners in the United States and across the world.
I want to say congratulations on your book selling out.
Well, Alex, isn't it amazing?
The book has been published now in 49 countries, and translated into 29 languages, and in the United States, a man who publishes my book is a mini-tiny publisher by the name of Trine Day, and instead of being snapped up by one of the biggest behemoths such as Simon Schuster and company, who won't, of course, come anywhere near this book, we have to go to Trine Day and Chris Milligan,
I think so.
Absolutely, but the truth is exploding.
Ron Paul revolution, all of it has definitely got them worried.
What do you think the establishment is going to do?
Are they going to try to pull a rabbit out of a hat to try to neutralize the revolution?
Well, it depends.
In my case, I think it's too late.
They miscalculated.
The idea was, you know, to have me, to stop me before I got to the States.
They weren't able to do that.
Now that the book is all over the world, it makes no sense for them to make any noise, so they'll just try to ignore it, which is what is exactly what they're doing right now.
I think with Ron Paul, there's a bigger danger that, you know, I'm getting information from my sources that there are people involved on higher levels of the American establishment
I don't know.
The people who, for over a decade, have provided some invaluable information to me on some of the more important subjects, which of course have come true, now are telling me that there is some talk about them doing what I just said they might be doing if Ron Paul Revolution really picks up steam.
Daniel, that's really scary.
You don't make things up.
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You're saying that, are these impeccable sources?
And they're telling you that that's being floated about?
Well, it is.
There's been a trial balloon within, you know, within the inner core of the inner core.
It hasn't gotten beyond that.
But at least, obviously, it's on the table, because I think, needless to say, they're very much concerned.
And now we know what the American political history is like over the last 40 years, and how easy it is to make things look and appear what they're not.
And needless to say, again, Alex, I pray to God that this is not the case.
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Something he's doing so well with your help, among so many other people.
Let's flesh this out more on the other side, talk about the European Expansion Treaty, get into the North American Union, and the Bilderberg Agenda for 2008.
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I have not talked to Daniel in his very busy schedule, my busy schedule.
You're learning about this as I learn about it.
I just mentioned, hey, what do you think of Ron Paul?
And Daniel does not make things up.
Daniel does not exaggerate.
Daniel is very conservative, more conservative than I am in his approach.
Uh, he has intelligence sources, he has government sources, he's continued to break news weeks, months, and years before it comes out from sources in Bilderberg, just as Jim Tucker has done.
He is the second longest, uh, uh, you know, researcher for now 16 years on this, Tucker 30.
He is the preeminent now, because obviously Tucker's older and isn't able to work as hard on this.
He is the preeminent researcher on Bilderberg and the whole interlocking NATO-British roundtable groups, the Black Nobility, and that ties into the whole global system, the UN, the Vatican, the British government, all of it.
And for him to come on air and say this, now during the break I asked him to flesh it out, how much he could talk about.
Daniel, go as far as you can, give us as much as you can about this situation with the congressman.
Well, before we get into this Alex, I just want to remind the audience who might not know or might not be aware of the things that I've been reviewing and predicting over the years.
In September, shortly after the Bill O'Reilly conference, I said that the war in Iran was off the table.
Actually, I said it in July.
No, you didn't.
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I've got you on video in an interview with you and Tucker together, where you're saying... That was a year ago!
Well, that was a year and a half ago.
That was a year... No, you're right.
I'm sorry, you're right.
Okay, you're right.
It's a year and a half ago.
I said the war in Iran was off the table.
I thought it was recently.
Time flies.
It really does.
Anyway, a year and a half ago, I said the Iran war was off the table on absolutely everybody, until a couple of weeks ago I was saying, we're going to have an Iran war, we're going to have a third world war.
And I said, and you're right, it's an end game.
There's going to be no war.
And now the intelligence community comes out and says, no, there's nothing there, nothing cooking.
And Bush had to admit, no, actually, there won't be war.
It's not that Bush doesn't want war.
It's that the people in Bilderberg told the little Bush man.
No war in Iran.
Do you understand?
No war.
And he understood.
Now as far as Ron Paul is concerned, and again Alex, I have to be very careful how I say this because these people's lives are in grave danger should their identity be revealed.
These are my intelligence sources in the American intelligence community.
What they're telling me is that the people of the highest level of government
Not related in any way, at least visually, to George W. Bush, are saying, at least for now, you know, the first initial conversation of what might happen if we were to do this.
And this is information they're relaying to me right now.
So they're now wargaming the possibilities, they're now judging and analyzing whether that would be good or bad?
Exactly, well the CIA usually, you know, does this kind of international analysis.
Yeah, they have hundreds of internal experts who war game it and brainstorm and look at different angles.
Exactly, and the question always is, what would happen if?
And this, again, this possibility of what would happen if, and again, these people, my sources, are getting it from their sources in the government, who are absolutely terrified of the possible consequences should something like this actually go down and take place.
Because they're believing it will explode into a revolution?
I don't think... I think one of the things that they're seeing, my sources, is that no one really knows.
There's just so many unknown factors in this.
You know, people have been beaten down to the point I don't think they realize any longer what goes on around them.
But again, this is such a thing, and Ron Paul phenomena has galvanized an entire nation, just as my book and your video, Endgame, have done the same.
A couple of weeks ago, I talked to Richard Siren in Toronto.
He presented the Toronto...
Premier of Endgame.
And he said, you know, when I appeared on the screen, over 500 people stood up and started cheering and clapping.
And this is a reaction you and I are getting worldwide.
You won't believe how many people in Madrid, Spain, absolutely love and adore your work and follow everything you do.
Wear Alex Jones t-shirts and follow every show you do and everything you say.
And I'm not exaggerating in one bit.
Well, that's amazing.
Getting back to Ron Paul, I know you've got to be very delicate on intelligence matters, and you can't even tell me over the phone because they're obviously listening during the last break, and we obviously have a lot of allies in the system as well, let's be clear about that, and I want you to elaborate, but specifically, was it, they're just floating in the councils and with the different analysts, what would happen if he was killed, or there was a disorder?
Or was that the response to discussions of, we may kill him, what do you think will happen?
I mean, flesh that out.
They're discussing what would happen if they were to remove him.
Actually, the word is not to kill.
The word that they're using is remove.
That's the actual word.
Now again, it is being done within the think tanks, and not within any think tank, but I have to be very careful, and unless I have the clear from my intelligence sources, I can't even name the think tank.
When I can, I will let you know, and then maybe I can be back on the show, and we can talk more about this, because needless to say, Ron Paul people need to know about this.
Okay, but let me just be clear here.
Is there discussions within the system, I mean,
This is what I'm trying to say here.
Are there forces inside the government, from the intel you got, that want him dead, or who are asking, what will happen if we kill him?
Will that backfire?
Or, is there just people in intelligence... What would happen if we kill him?
Would it backfire?
That's it.
And so there's... so people inside the system are entertaining his assassination?
Again, I don't know how many people.
I don't think that that many.
I think it's a very small circle of intimates.
And I can't explain you more than that because I don't know it myself.
Because again, we were not communicating over a secure line.
So I only know what I told you.
But again, as soon as I know more, you'll be the first to know.
Well, let me be clear here.
His numbers have doubled and now are on the verge of tripling in polls.
He's winning global and national caucuses.
He has now gone viral supernova like I've never seen before.
It literally hit the zeitgeist.
He's about to raise
Between 6 and 10 million on the money bomb this Sunday.
And I've seen a new strategy now where they're saying he doesn't exist, he's failing, he's nothing, or outrightly trying to ignore him now.
And now they're trying to push Huckabee as a replacement.
So I do see them now treating him as a real threat.
I think he has always been a real threat.
It was just a question for him to become that threat or to disappear, drop off the radar screen.
And he has taken advantage, he's played it very, very smartly, and he's exactly where he is.
And again, what you were saying just now, we can easily apply to my book as well.
They've tried to ignore it, they couldn't.
It has sold over 15 editions in Spain, over 250,000 copies of my Bilderberg book.
Now it's in the States.
The first edition sold out on a snap.
The second one is almost sold out before it hit the stores.
The third one is going to be coming out shortly.
And again, these people are realizing that it's the people that are leading this fight.
And there are a lot of people out there who have not been dumbed down by the establishment and the mass media entertainment.
Who are willing and able to stand up and actually be counted, because I think what you and I have done, Alex, is we made it very, very clear in our message that the government is broken.
It doesn't represent the people.
The judicial system is broken.
It doesn't represent the people.
The media, who's supposed to be there covering the truth, is there hiding the truth from the rest of the society.
So people are saying, what do we do?
Because unless we do something,
We're good to go.
In a counter-revolutionary position, this attack pattern that the people are leading is headless.
It's virally exploding at an exponential rate.
Even if the globalists stage more terror attacks, I've analyzed it.
Every angle I look at shows that backfiring on them.
But if they don't move, it's going to blow up in their face.
If they don't kill Ron Paul, me, you, and make no mistake, folks, I can
Literally feel the wings of death flapping around my head every day.
They're looking at me right now.
They're looking at Daniel.
They're looking at the Congressman.
He's set on air.
He knows it's a danger.
He's a very serious man.
I mean, every angle I look at this, it shows like two freight trains going 100 miles an hour on the same tracks that are going to collide.
What do you say to that?
Well, you're absolutely right, but we have an advantage, and advantage is, is that there is no recognizable leader to this movement.
It's people in power in the movement, which is basically what's happening around the world, not only in the United States, but everywhere.
And you're seeing this, so they can't just kill off six billion people, although they definitely would like to do that, because again, as I said a year ago, and I say it now,
The war is not against Osama Bin Laden or this traveling circus known as the mullahs of Iran.
We are their enemy and they will not stop until they obliterate us, destroy us, wipe us out, and subjugate us.
Go ahead.
The advantage that we have is that we don't have a recognizable president leading this fight, this movement for freedom.
There are a lot of people, a lot of smallish groups around the country, around the world, who are taking matters into their own hands and doing what they can to make sure that they're not part of the system, which obviously has long time ago stopped working for them.
And this is a revolution that isn't going to go away.
It's only going to get stronger.
Getting back to Ron Paul, Daniel Esselstyn, we're going to come back and get into the Bilderberg agenda, EU expansion.
Fleshing this out more, and I'm just trying to analyze and guess what the intelligence people are saying.
A lot of them, I know, like the congressman.
A lot of them are good patriots.
Globally, they don't like what's happening.
Are they realizing, from their own studied view, that if they do kill Paul, or if a bolt of lightning strikes him, that's going to just enrage the revolution a hundred times?
Well, I don't know.
I think that's just wishful thinking.
God, I hope so, but I just, you know, if that's the case, you know, then take me!
But unfortunately, I just don't see it this way because, again, what has unfortunately happened, especially with the television, is that the mass media has persuaded people that what they can see with their eyes is what's there to see.
Stay there.
Break it down when we get back.
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Daniel, we're going to get off the Ron Paul thing here in a minute, but obviously now we've got to do an article at TruthNews.us and PrisonPlanet.com because I brought this up six months ago to the Congress, but he said, yeah, if I get big enough, if this movement gets big enough, it was already exponentially growing then.
He saw where the trajectory was going.
He said they've killed a lot of people.
He said they've shot a lot of people.
That's a real danger.
And coming from you, who's not a man of rumors, this is a big concern.
So if they're not scared of him getting killed and causing an explosion in the freedom movement, why then are these intelligence agents upset?
Because they like Ron Paul?
Or because they see it as evil?
Or they didn't tell you?
I think Alex, more than anything else, the intelligence people are patriots.
I know a lot of them.
You probably know quite a few as well.
And as you know, the people who join the intelligence community, more than anything else, they love their country and they want to serve their country.
And what they're seeing, you know, with the Bilderbergers,
And such is this creation of a global network of giant cartels, more powerful than any nation on the planet, destined to control the necessities of life of the rest of humanity, who do not work for the country and do not represent our and their interests, which is why they're so absolutely paranoid of what might happen if this man gets eliminated, because again,
We have to do something now.
We're at the end of the end.
This isn't the beginning of the end.
Unless we can do something over a very short term, the window of opportunity to get this world back is closing rapidly.
Let's explain that.
They are monopoly men.
I've got Aaron Dykes coming in for like five minutes later because he's just written a big article about, we know Rick Perry went to Bilderberg.
Now the mainstream news is talking about him being Giuliani's running mate.
They're both involved.
Giuliani's over the North American Union Highway System.
His law firm literally has a contract with Sentra with the roads being handed over.
These are the, we see the corporate
Interlocking structures literally stepping into the positions of government administration.
I mean, they're openly taking over.
Can you speak to that?
Well, absolutely.
I mean, you're looking at the oligarchy, which is basically, essentially, a private criminal enterprise, which stretches across the globe, operating through a network of government agencies, private institutions, and both publicly owned and private corporations and financial institutions.
Now, this extended network, and you and I have talked about this before, stretches all the way back to the Middle Ages.
Again, this is what used to be called the family's fondio funds.
You know, oligarchical families and their monies pulled together for maximum effect and deployed through a network of financial institutions which hide their origins from the unsuspecting public.
And again, unless people see it, they don't believe it, which is what the mass media entertainment has done to us.
And they will laugh in our face, the people, because they can't see that beyond the reality of a television set, there is another reality.
Far more terrifying, and far more real.
And that is what you and I have been doing, trying to get this reality out.
How do you see this collision playing out?
Because the globalists now recognize that they're facing more and more opposition, but they seem to be accelerating their program.
Well, I think again, Alex, to go back to the tried-and-true cliché, I think it's the people who are leading this fight.
And the European Constitution, which was actually not a constitution, it's a watered-down version of a constitution, was signed yesterday, I believe, in Lisbon.
It only goes to show you that they couldn't ram it through the Europeans.
Because the French and the Dutch said absolutely no, so what they've done is they've created another version which basically bypasses people's votes and goes right to the technocrats and their opinion making.
That's dictatorial system.
That's dictatorship right there.
Well, you know, if you read the European press, what they're basically telling you is they're telling us that we are very, very lucky, we the people in Europe, that we don't have to worry about these trivial, trite little, you know, piddly things such as the Constitution, and we can just go on and do our things and let the bureaucrats and the politicians take care of all these other things which we supposedly don't want anything to do with.
Of course, that is not exactly the case, because again, the European Constitution, or whatever this document that they're calling it is, it has destroyed the concept of nation-states, it has destroyed the concept of national constitutions, because now, as of this very moment, the European Constitution takes precedence
Well, it certainly is.
How they created Europe by stealth.
I mean, how obvious is this?
Now they're fully getting rid of the last vestiges of national sovereignty and any liberty or transparency.
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But right now, for about the next three minutes, Trevor Lyman, the man that came up with the idea of the money bomb, or he took the idea and ran with it, 4.3 mil raised for Congressman Ron Paul, November 5th.
Remember, remember, the 5th of November.
Well, now...
Now they've got the hundreds of thousands to get the blimp up.
They're over Burlington, North Carolina.
In the air right now.
He's here to give the itinerary.
And we've got 32,000 plus pledges.
Looking like it'll be at least 7 million of those pledges come in for the Money Bomb Sunday.
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I'm going to have a lot of people I know who believe in Ron Paul.
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And my wife isn't maxed out yet.
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He just dropped in the blimp!
Why don't you call him back?
I've got to have a live report from the blimp.
And I'm sure Daniel will want to say something to him once you get him on.
But he is in the air, thousands of feet in the air in the blimp.
I mean, again, Ron Paul is this focal point, Daniel Estlin, unleashing the power of the people.
I'm not surprised the establishment's scared.
Absolutely, Alex.
You're absolutely right.
You're looking at all the other candidates out there.
You're looking at the Hillary Clintons, at the John Edwards...
All of these people belong to the Bilderberg Club, belong to the Trilateral Commission, members of the CFR, Skull and Bones, of the Bohemian Grove.
All of these individuals, one way or another, from our freedom point of view, are all tainted individuals.
And you know, none of them are talking about what they've done at the Bilderberg Conferences.
None of them talk about what they've done at the Skull and Bones things.
They don't talk about the CFR meetings.
They don't talk about the Trilateral Commission meetings.
I mean, you've talked to George W. Bush, and you've asked him about the, what was it, the Bohemian Grove, or what was it, the Skull and Bone?
The CFR, and he had me kidnapped, yeah.
That's right, and I remember you being arrested, and I mean, this is what they do to us, and you have a Ron Paul out there, who's actually as clean as a whistle, because you know, if any of these people had any goods on them whatsoever, it would have been on the front page of the New York Times.
Well, yeah, I mean, he exercises every morning at 5 a.m.
He eats like a bird, as his son said.
I mean, he really, he is into virtue.
He's very virtuous.
So again, let's just hope and pray that he stays healthy, and that people really use Ron Paul as a rallying cry to get our country, your country, the United States, to get North America back as individual nation states who can work together, but we don't need to be three nations in one.
Oh, and by the way, Alex,
They are working on the North American Constitution, in case you're interested.
Yeah, break all that down and explain how the integration, the governments are paid off by the corporations, interlocking members of the government are also on these international boards and corporate boards, how they're merging them right now and how deep we're already into this integration.
It's a self-perpetuating system.
Well, exactly.
It's a virtual spiderweb of interlocked financial, political, economic, and industry interests, with the Venetian entre-mente fondi model at the center.
It is dynamic in a sense that it changes with the times, absorbs and creates new parts, new members, new corporations, while excreting the remains of the decaying parts.
And members come and go, corporations come and go, but the system itself has not changed.
And basically what you have is the new North American Constitution being put together.
And again, I know that this is being put together now, because one of the people who has been invited as a consultant is a man by the name of Javier Solana, who is a former member of the socialist government in Spain, one of the most corrupt governments in the history of Spain,
And also a former Secretary General of NATO, and also a member of the Bilderberg Club, and also a member of the Trilateral Commission.
Now Solana is Europe's quintessential bureaucrat who has used all the necessary shenanigans and dirty tricks in the European Parliament to limit people's freedom of speech.
Daniel, hold it there.
We're only going to spend one or two minutes with Trevor Lyman.
Stay there as we cover the North American Union.
Trevor Lyman over North Carolina in the Ron Paul 2008 blimp.
Who is Ron Paul?
Trevor, give us a report from our air attack on the New World Order.
Okay, yeah, we're up here.
We're above Burlington, North Carolina.
We're on our way to Charlotte.
And then we're going to arrive at Chester Airfield at 6 p.m.
It's probably going to be dark when we land.
Then we're going to spend the whole day Saturday in that area, hitting Greensboro and down into Columbia.
We wanted to hit South Carolina because it's the upcoming primary state.
And then Sunday, again, because of the Tea Party, we want to be over South Carolina.
In the air.
We may be held down by winds for a while that day, but we really are hoping that we can get up in the air.
But because of winds and distance, you're not going to be able to make it up to the Boston Tea Party.
That's right, because of the snow.
We found out that if you have snow or ice on this thing, it will destroy the balance.
You'll have uneven weight on the top and that will cause it to spin and people can get hurt.
So they avoid snow.
So we're learning as we go.
But you're going to get up to New York and the Northeast though in the next week.
As long as there's a window there, about five or six days of good weather, we're going to do it.
We'll go up north.
Trevor, the Money Bomb Sunday, you're going to be with me 20 minutes on the Sunday show from 4 to 6 p.m.
in that first hour, and we'll be able to have all the latest numbers and intel from the inside from Trevor Lyman, who's launched this whole thing.
How many pledges do we have right now?
I believe it's about 32.
Like you said, I have to check myself.
Internet connection and telephone is really spotty up here.
But, you know, we're doing my best.
It's over 30.
I believe it's about 31 to 32 right now.
Is the blimp getting a lot of media attention?
Yes, it is.
We had a helicopter fly by in Raleigh, as well as some other reporters that had called in and wanted to report on it.
Um, XM Radio wants to speak a little bit later on.
You know, just all kinds of different places.
So it's great.
It's really starting to work already.
We will definitely go through the D.C.
Not too close, but close enough that we'll get a lot of press there as well.
All right, Trevor.
We'll have a detailed report with you on Sunday, and we'll watch Tea Party 2007 dot com throughout the weekend.
Everybody get involved.
Trevor, thank you.
Thank you very much.
There goes Trevor Lyman.
Okay, sorry, Daniel.
I've been wanting to get him on last hour, but his phone was out in the blimp.
We were able to get him on then.
I apologize.
Continue with how they're already setting up the North American Union.
You have the floor.
Okay, well, first of all, you guys have patented the idea of the blimp, right?
Because Hillary Clinton of this world surely will steal it from you.
Yeah, they'll probably try.
Anyway, as I was saying, you have the European Constitution, or some semblance of it right now, and now they're working on the North American Constitution as well.
Again, they haven't actually physically sat down to start working on it through a working group, but what they do have, again, they have Javier Solana, who is the former member of the Spanish Socialist Party in the 1980s and early 1990s, and the former Secretary General of NATO.
He is now being hired on as a consultant because, again, he is one of the key people who steered the entire process of European integration and European constitution.
And, again, he is Europe's foreign minister, if you wish, to the rest of the world.
Now, do we have a couple of minutes?
I would very much, Alex, like to explain how the whole North American Union idea was actually put together.
A lot of people think that it all started in Bilderberg 1996.
It actually finished at Bilderberg 1996.
It goes all the way back to the early days of the Reagan-Bush presidency in 1980, early 1981.
Do we have a couple of minutes?
You have the floor.
Great, thanks so much.
Now, upon taking the reins of the country, Bush and Reagan called in the presidents of the key transnational companies and asked them for the real picture.
Now, the money people told them that if the United States were a corporation, it would have to be shut down immediately because, according to them, it was bankrupt.
Now, then the critical question is put to these people.
What is the solution?
There's only one solution, according to them.
They say we must merge Canada politically with the United States if we are to rebalance the book.
Now, according to their report, Canada is a virgin country, which it is, with a multitude of natural resources, water supplies, mines, oil, gas.
I think so.
14 or 15 years from 1980-81, it takes us to 1995, which is an important date, because in 1995 they had the Quebec referendum.
Now, the reason that's important is the politicians and the bankers said, now, we can't merge Canada and the United States politically, because Canada has this province that speaks French.
You can't integrate the two as long as Quebec is there.
Get them to separate, said Paul Volcker.
That was in 1981.
How, they asked.
Then the president of Hannah Mining, who was sitting at the table, he said,
I have a division in Canada called the Iron Ore Company of Canada, and I have a man there by the name of Brian Mulrooney, that's Canada's future Prime Minister.
He just shut down the town of Shefferville, Quebec, and basically destroyed an entire town.
Shutting down Canada, he said, wouldn't be much of a problem.
Wonderful, we all agree.
Let's bring him in.
But, Volcker jumps in.
Can this Mulrooney guy be trusted?
Well, absolutely, replies the Hannah Mining President.
You see, he said, Mulroney once looted the company pension fund in order to start the construction of his grand pet project, the Lord's Inn, which was to be built in Labrador.
By the way, the hotel was the exact replica of Montreal's Ritz Hotel.
So then the bankers basically have him in their pocket.
Now, on the election day, of course, Mulroney wins, and he becomes, in September 1984, the new and proud Prime Minister of Canada.
Again, that wasn't very difficult to do, electing him as the Prime Minister.
A few years later, Mulroney became the most hated man in Canada,
I don't
9-11 Truth folks confronted him at three separate events very politely.
They would go to each book signing and give him end games, give him loose change final cuts.
And at the last one, the guy walks up, gives it to him, and says, yeah, listen, you called for a new world order, which you did on record.
And he's not in his space.
He's about three feet away.
Krejcian leans across the table, grabs his arm, and shoves him back and tells him in French, get him out of here.
I mean, why did he go from acting fake and nice to, hey, you called for a new world order, and Krejcian just goes, yeah!
Well, you just brought something up there.
Again, Alex, I've been investigating the Canadian break-up since 1996, since I found out at the Bilderberg Conference in Canada that year, what these people basically had in mind.
Now, basically, with the structure of Mulroney and the election of Chrétien, who of course was also a member of the Bilderberg elite, the Bilderbergers basically had their wet dream.
You had one truly national party, the Liberals,
With the most hated politician in Quebec, Jean Chrétien.
Then you have the French-Canadian, Lucien Bouchard, Bilderberg member, of course, and a rocker fellow man in Quebec, leading the official opposition with the biggest block of separatists ever.
And then you have this Reform Party, who is basically your extreme right wing, and the Quebec are saying, we're leaving, and the rest of Canadians are basically saying, go to hell.
Now, we would have lost, we the Canadians, we would have lost Quebec, Alex, and would have had North American Union a long time ago had it not been for what I said before, the people leading this fight.
You know what happened?
One week before the Quebec referendum in 1995, when the Rockefellers were saying, we have this all done,
38,000 people from across Canada out of a total population of 32 million that 0.001%
Defended on Quebec one week before and spent an entire week pleading with Quebecers not to... And so they shot that down.
Now through transportation, law enforcement, security, they're merging and all.
We don't have a lot of time.
I want to accelerate into how they're merging them together now and then Aaron's got some questions for you.
Aaron Dykes.
Well, basically, again, we've talked about this before.
Now, how are they doing this?
Again, Alex, think of money.
If you could ask Jeannie for three wishes, what would you ask for?
Again, keeping in mind you want absolute control.
You would want, first of all, control of the sun.
Second, control the air.
And third, you would want to control the water.
Now, you know you can't control the sun and the air, but you can control the water because it's a natural resource.
And again, in the North American Free Trade Agreement, which, by the way, no one has ever seen because it is hidden, you know, in a canister 60 miles outside of Ottawa, not to be seen for the next 30 years, there's a lot of talk that free-flowing water is free.
Of course, bottled water is not free, and in GATT, which is General Agreement on Trades and Tariffs,
There's a lot of talk about water becoming private property.
So again, if you want to see how they're doing this, it's amazing the shenanigans, but you do have to admit, these are brilliant people, the Rockefellers of this world.
We're not dealing with stupid people.
We're dealing with some of the most diabolical, brilliant minds on the planet.
How unfortunate that they're not working for the betterment of the humankind and against us.
Aaron Dykes has got some questions for you.
He's written some articles about Giuliani, these North American union groups, how he's over the law firm with Sentra, literally having the infrastructure handed to him.
Aaron, quickly.
Hi, Daniel.
Yeah, on top of all the transnational TTC stuff, there's also this TXU deal, a giant utility company that just became one of the biggest buyouts of all time, principally involving KKR and Henry Kravis.
He's made personal appearances
And we know Rick Perry was at Bilderberg, and I was just wondering if there's any specific discussion.
Were they troubleshooting their business deals?
Or were they finding out if he can give a vice presidential speech properly?
Which they're now also vetting Perry to run with him.
I mean, bottom line, is there any intel on what was discussed between Rick Perry, King Juan Carlos, and other players in regards to Texas interests, and or vice president, etc.
during the instant and Volterra key meeting?
No, I don't have a lot on that, but I can tell you as far as the American elections, the Guglielmi thing, I don't see him anywhere near the Republican nominee.
I see Michael Bloomberg being selected by the man behind the curtain.
As far as your question is concerned, I'm going to look into it more.
I don't have enough to actually make a lot of sense.
I prefer to keep him for the next interview, Alex.
My whole point is, is that they are really integrating Perry into their higher echelons and it looks like, from every indicator, Texas is one of the main battlegrounds in the North American Union.
Oh, absolutely.
Texas is one of the main battlegrounds.
It has always been one of the main battlegrounds.
And again, one of the reasons for that is oil.
Again, one of the natural resources that all of these men behind the curtain need for the survival of the planet.
So again, Texas will definitely be on the agenda, which means that I'm going to have to come to Texas in February, and you and I are going to have to put on a show and make people know what these big Bilderbergers are up against.
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Well, first of all, Alex, I'm honored to have been part of the Endgame.
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I talked to several people.
One of them is Richard Sire from Toronto, from 1010 CFRB in Toronto.
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We get about 10,000 hits a day, which is pretty good because it's a one-man operation, but a lot of it is one-man operation.
There are very few people like you, Alex,
Well, look how far we've all come.
Nobody knew about the Bilderberg Group ten years ago, five years ago.
Now it's being discussed.
Does that anger the Bilderberg Group?
Well, I think it is, but again, you know, we have to deal with the great unwashed, the masses, who just prefer not to know, and who prefer just to walk away, to turn their back on the truth and say, well, you just have a nice day, things will get better on their own.
Things won't get better, because we won't have a country to fight for, unless we stand up.
And a final comment, Alex, final comment, ten seconds.
We can win this war when the power of love overcomes the love of power, and that is a guarantee.
Daniel, God bless you.
I'm going to have my producer call you right now.
I want to set you up for an hour next week to take calls, and have a great Christmas.
God bless you all.
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