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Big Brother.
Mainstream media.
Government cover-ups.
You want answers?
Well, so does he.
He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
Welcome, my friends, welcome.
Thank you for joining us on this live Monday edition, the 13th day of November 2006.
We'll be here live for the next three hours.
He hasn't been on with us in a couple months.
Paul Joseph Watson will be riding shotgun in the second hour with his world report from the prison planet, from England.
And we'll also have wide open phones throughout the broadcast giving you a chance to respond to what you've witnessed with the election.
Now there can be no doubt every major Democrat has gone public saying zero impeachment, zero investigations.
Now they are going public and saying, well, we may reduce the troops or we're looking at five different scenarios from the independent Iraq working study group with James Baker.
Which, it's not independent, of course.
And this is the same thing they've been doing for now two and a half years.
Always saying, oh, we'll look in a few months at giving a date for withdrawal.
Or, oh, we're going to withdraw 10,000 troops.
And then they never even withdraw them and actually add more.
So they put it kind of into a...
No man's land of debate and discussion while telling the people what they want to hear, while at the same time actually escalating the number of troops in the country.
So you're welcome to chime in on this subject.
Also, Wayne Madsen, who turned out to be a great source, is saying that Cheney could be next on the chopping block.
We'll get into that report for you.
But really, I want to focus in on Nancy Pelosi.
I have a report here that her constituents in the San Francisco Bay Area have had a referendum, and they've demanded that impeachment be launched, but the problem is Nancy Pelosi's on the payroll of a bunch of foreign lobbies.
And has said that she's not even going to criticize China.
She's not going to criticize Israel.
The war is going to continue.
There will be no impeachment.
Of course, you're aware of what's happening.
I want to give you a chance to respond on air and give us your take and any ideas that you have on ways to force the Democrats to move forward with impeachment of George W. Bush and the criminal neocons that are still running this country.
They're still in control for another two years.
The Democrats have said we're not going to repeal the Patriot Act.
There's no discussion of repealing H.R.
Finally, Lou Rockwell's pointing this out.
I thought we were the only people that noticed this.
So the question is, will the country go back to sleep, or will there be a mass...
We're good to go.
I think?
What comes in the future if we don't impeach Bush, if we don't punish the neocon allies in the Democratic Party?
Will they attack Iran?
Israel's saying they may do it any day.
They're talking about going into Lebanon again, even going into Syria.
This is in Haratz.
This is in the Jerusalem Post.
What's going to happen when we have Lieberman running the Homeland Security...
...committee in the Senate.
What's going to happen when we have all these war hawk Democrats in control of key committees?
Really, Bush has now defended himself against his weak flank that was some real conservative members of the House of Representatives.
And of course, there's the big nightmare looming, not even on the horizon, but starting up in the new Congress in the next legislative session in January, and that is blanket...
Total Amnesty.
That is the guest worker program.
So we're going to go to break here in just a moment.
And when we get back, we will go to your phone calls and break down the state of the world, the state of the economy, and much more.
I'm Alex Jones.
The websites are jonesreport.com and infowars.net.
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And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
In past decades, the New World Order overlords that control our private, run-for-profit Federal Reserve controlled the dominant committee chairmen and women in the House and Senate.
They controlled most of the governors.
They always controlled the president.
Many presidents before Kennedy and all presidents after John F. Kennedy was killed in Dallas, Texas, coming up on the 43rd anniversary here pretty quick.
It seems just like yesterday that we had the last anniversary.
So all of this is swarming around.
All of these current events are happening, but to put them into perspective...
In 1994, the Republican Party came to power, and there were real independent conservatives that came in as part of that sweeper landslide with all the discontent with Bill Clinton and a socialist health care plan, Bill Clinton in Waco, Bill Clinton and, of course, his gun control actions.
And so the Republicans came into power.
Newt Gingrich then basically was put into a position to ride herd over them.
And then by 1998, still some of those conservative elements in the House responding to the huge national
We're good to go.
The special counsel, special investigator, special prosecutor, Kenneth Starr, they were able to ensure that nuclear reactor transfers by Clinton weren't investigated, missile secrets, missile components, MIRV technology, that's the multiple reentry device technology, so that a warhead coming into the atmosphere, or that is the third stage of a Long March rocket, can pop open and fire dozens of different missiles and decoys,
I think we're good to go.
We're good to go.
I think?
I think we're good to go.
As soon as George Herbert Walker Bush started his fifth administration through his front man, his son, his puppet, in 2001, the first thing they did was block Dan Burton's committee that was going after Bill Clinton.
We had Bill Clinton dead to rights.
We had him caught red-handed pardoning scores of convicted cocaine dealers, money launderers,
Just people involved in arms smuggling, felons, Chinese generals in the White House.
You know the drill.
And so that all just disappeared.
George Bush, day one, said, we're not going to have any investigations.
Just like Nancy Pelosi today is saying no investigations.
And the Republicans howled in anger.
That is the Republican faithful, the grassroots, the backbone of this country, well-meaning people.
And now, well-meaning liberals are howling in disgust, demanding an investigation, demanding an impeachment, demanding a repeal of the Patriot Act, and H.R.
6166, and the Military Commissions Act, and the Defense Authorization Act of 2007 that sets up a military dictatorship publicly.
I mean, NORCOM's announced it.
And we cannot let this fade away like we did in 2001.
So many Republicans were glassy-eyed in rapture.
They were angry about Bush protecting Clinton, but they said, well, at least he's in control now, and he's just trying to work with Clinton.
I don't think that the progressives, the liberals, the third force in this country that is made up of the Reagan Democrats and others are going to put up with this this time.
And I am really trying to get everybody focused right now on several issues.
9-11 truth is the event that all of the modern actions playing out under New World Order programs orbit.
And we need to attack their foundation and expose the fact that, and they always go back to 9-11, you know, they've got this draft Giuliani move now, drafting for president, and the ads they're running on radio and TV across the country are saying, he saved us, he's our leader, the man we went to, the man that led us through the darkness on 9-11.
I mean, it's so rich, it's sick.
Here's somebody involved in the attacks, and I have to hear ads about how he, I heard it last night about how he's saving us.
So again, it's their zeitgeist.
They continue to go back to 9-11 and use that as the excuse for everything they do.
We also have to move to repeal the Military Commissions Act, to repeal the Defense Authorization Act, the John Warner Defense Authorization Act of 2007, to repeal Patriot Act 1 and 1.5, because they didn't fully get two passed last year, so I call it 1.5.
We have to continue to make this the central issue and not let the country go back to sleep.
But the good news is they're not going back to sleep.
There's a lot of partisan pundits.
I was listening to Beyond the Beltway last night.
I finished my own, the new radio show I'm doing Sundays from 4 to 6 that we syndicated out of the studios of News Radio 590 KLBJ.
We're good to go.
We're good to go.
It's a syndicated show out of Chicago.
Many of you probably heard it.
And the Democrat analyst had it right on the show.
He was saying, listen, people don't like either party now.
It is a third force.
They're against global government.
They're against a New World Order.
They don't like either party.
And I'm telling you that in 2008, if the Democrats haven't gotten us out of Iraq and haven't stopped the North American Union and a lot of other things, they're going to get thrown out too.
And you're going to see a real third party, not like 94, 96, or 98, or 2000, you know, these ineffectual things.
You're going to see a real one.
I think?
We're good to go.
And it's encouraging, folks, when Limbaugh's having to say that he carried the water, that he lied to people, telling you that Republicans were good.
It's encouraging when top Democratic strategists are admitting it.
It's encouraging when even Matt Drudge is having to admit it.
And that's because if they don't admit it, they're losing their entire audiences.
Matt Drudge is having to admit there's a world government and that he doesn't like it, at least he's having to say that, because we have achieved...
I don't want to use the corny New Age term, enlightenment.
Eighty-plus percent of the country now knows the game.
They know enough of the rules.
They know enough of the basics to see how the scam's working.
And this is incredibly positive news.
Amazingly positive.
I mean, I got a little bit down last week and was pouting on Aaron for that.
I apologize.
It's because I knew the Democrats would sell out.
I threw a fit over it.
I just thought they'd at least give us lip service.
But the fact that they didn't even give us lip service, the fact that they just threw down the gauntlet and said we don't care, really energized the population and kept the people from going back to sleep.
And now to hear all these top pundits admitting that they've lost control is really exciting.
So of course you see Nancy Pelosi and John Conyers in that bug-eyed twerp, Howard Dean, basically circling the wagons, closing the drawbridge, huddled with Bush and the rest of those criminals, trying to defend the status quo.
They've got a tiger by the tail, and they're not going to be able to do it.
They're not going to be able to just ride out the next two years on whatever shenanigans they're planning.
And by the way, I think they could stage a terror attack any time.
We are not out of the woods.
They're now putting out alerts that Al-Qaeda, Al-CIA, has called back in their fighters from the U.S.
and England, and they're about to strike us any minute, give up all your rights, worship the nearest man in a black uniform.
I mean, it's really getting to be transparent right now.
But the good news is, the establishment is having to admit that they are totally discredited and they're not trusted.
And now, the first three or four days, the Democrats were, that is the Democratic constituents, were a little bit childlike and delusional.
They were criticizing myself and others, saying, oh, don't worry, Conyers and Dean and them are just saying that everything's okay.
Now they're beginning to become horrified.
Now they're beginning to grow up a little bit, and they are setting about to try to force their party to move forward with impeachment.
Now, let me just briefly comment on Iraq, and we'll come back and take your calls at 1-800-259-9231.
They have this Iraq study group with a bunch of top establishment Democrats and Republicans chaired by James Baker, the Bush and Saudi lawyer, the chief whitewasher.
I mean, this guy is as powerful as George Shultz and more powerful than Henry Kissinger.
A top gopher for the Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Saxe-Coburg-Gothers, and the Dutch Royal Family.
Works directly for all of them.
Well, we'll tell you about what he's doing briefly on the other side.
There's big talk about Dick Cheney being forced to move out of office.
I don't know if that's the case, but it could happen.
The guy's already basically on life support.
He's like Darth Vader.
And we'll continue with your calls when we start taking those.
So stay with us.
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But before we do that, just finishing up, and I'm going to get more into this later.
We have the Iraq Study Group.
Which the media keeps going, well, I'm glad they're here, they'll fix it all, and the ABC, CBS, Fox, CNN, liberals, conservatives, it doesn't matter, the establishment talking heads are all saying, oh, they're non-partisan, oh, they'll fix it, oh, Bush has gotten a spanking, his daddy's back into control.
And that's why you know they are the un-partisan.
We're good to go.
Robert Gates and others.
I mean, they were involved in the crimes of Iran-Contra and covering it up.
Involved in all of the corruption.
Just unbelievable stuff.
Arming Saddam.
I mean, these guys just never stop.
And they're back!
They were there stealing the election in 2000.
Well, they're back again.
And the media is calling them independent.
I mean, that is so laughable.
That's like when
Janet Reno appointed former Senator John Danforth from Missouri, and then her two deputies, the two top people that aided Danforth were her two top deputies.
Now one of them, you know, is Congressman Michael McCaul, the big conservative.
Bill Clinton and Janet Reno's top right-hand man.
Again, it's a nest.
We can prove that Bill Clinton is a CIA operative on the take.
Recruited, trained in the late 60s, working for Bush Senior, who was CIA director later, and then of course head ambassador to China.
I mean, this is a management team for the globalist.
And now, it's more obvious than ever.
And what is the Iraq study group recommending?
Oh, they've got five different plans.
Two of the plans are the most likely.
That was the original Israeli and Pentagon plan.
Back in 1983, the Israelis wrote it up, and then it was immediately adopted by the Pentagon as the main battle plan to destabilize and balkanize and divide and conquer the region.
And one plan is to break it up into four parts, the other is into three parts.
So two of the five plans are really the same plan.
And those are the plans that you'll see carried out.
Predominantly, because really what these guys always do is have a mishmash.
Then one of the other plans is to actually build up troops, increase the troops.
That's the program they've been carrying out for the last two and a half years.
Remember two and a half years ago every month we heard the mantra, oh, we're going to be pulling out now down to 50,000 troops, 40,000 troops in the next year.
But first we've got to stabilize it by going from 35,000 to 64,000.
And then down to 150 and then back up to 165 and then back down to 130 and back down to...
We're good to go.
And every major town and city has these, and they're just there to make sure the infighting and mass murder and bombing continues, that the bedlam continues.
And that was the plan.
Go in, blow out the first world economy, balkanize it, and then just guard the pipelines to ensure that oil does not flow, therefore jacking up prices.
You see, by shutting off that oil and restricting its flow, the oil companies make record profits.
We're good to go.
Democrats push for troop cuts within months, four to six months.
Democrats who won majorities in the U.S.
Congress in the last week's elections said on Sunday they will push for a phased withdrawal of U.S.
troops from Iraq to begin in four to six months.
And in four to six months, you would have forgotten.
It's like Bush saying, oh, I'm going to phase in 6,000 troops on the southern border over the next four to six months.
And nothing ever happens.
They put a few hundred troops down there for one or two photo ops, and nothing's done.
Same thing with the fence.
They didn't pass a bill to fund a fence.
They passed a bill to allow a fence.
Ha ha!
Yeah, yeah.
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The bad news is both parties are totally controlled.
Anyone who's anti-establishment, Democrat or Republican, is targeted by the machine.
We know that.
Most of us have known that for decades, but the good news now is that the general public is awake to that, and I heard Beyond the Beltway, Matt Drudge, I mean, just listening to talk radio last night, everyone admitting that it's an anti-New World Order.
I heard that term used, not just by Pat Buchanan, but on the Beyond the Beltway show.
An anti-globalist sentiment.
They're having to admit the majority of Americans now don't trust anything they say and are, quote, anti-New World Order.
It's happened, folks.
We are now mainstream.
We've always been the normal people.
We want our country.
We want our borders.
We want our Second Amendment.
We want our families.
We want our sovereignty.
Paleo-conservatives have always known that big government is a tool of big corporations used to extract our wealth.
The liberals never understood that.
Grassroots liberals thought big government was for the people.
Now grassroots liberals, who are good folks, who I talk to and whose blogs I read, now get it.
They're understanding that big government is a tool of the global elite.
And so the entire welfare state paradigm, everything they've built, is starting to fall apart.
Doesn't mean we're out of the woods, but again, I study this, I look at this, this is complex issues.
And so, you know, I was getting a little depressed last week because I saw the traitors, the Democrats saying they were going to do nothing to go after this
This man who would be king.
This man who is trying to be a dictator.
But it's one thing to say our Bill of Rights is dead.
It's another thing for them to actually implement that.
It's one thing for them to claim they've got this power.
It's another thing to actually use it.
So we stand against the New World Order.
You stand against them.
Let's go to calls.
I'm guessing that Troy in West Virginia disagrees.
I'm going to put him at the head of the line.
And I was having a debate with a friend Friday night when we had a showing of Terror Storm for free at a local church.
And my friend was thinking that Troy really is a patriot and is just acting ignorant.
But if he is, he's a great actor.
Troy's called in, I guess, two or three times the last few weeks.
Troy, are you joking when you call and say you disagree?
Okay, well, I don't have a lot of time to waste with you because... All right, I just have a simple question.
I wasn't going to take up much of your time.
Okay, go ahead.
We've made it clear that you want Bush impeached, but my question to you is, if Bush were to be impeached, wouldn't Cheney be the new president?
Well, obviously, if there is an impeachment process, it's going to destroy his whole administration, and they're all going to have to leave.
You know, just like when Nixon left, his vice president got indicted.
So the vice president wasn't president when Nixon got impeached?
Pardon me?
See, I have trouble talking to you, sir, because I don't... It's like, I'm not that smart, but talking to you, it's like talking to another life form.
Now, listen, I don't understand what you just said.
Who was Nixon's vice president?
Spiro Agnew.
Oh, okay, I didn't know that.
Was that some little smart comment you made about, you know, oh, so Cheney was president?
I mean, what are you saying?
I just asked you a simple question.
I didn't know that.
I just assumed that when the...
If something happens to the president, the vice president becomes president.
If the president has a heart attack or has a stroke on a train like Woodrow Wilson and dies, then the vice president becomes president.
But no, if a president's removed for corruption, like Grant or somebody, their vice president doesn't usually hang around long.
Okay, I didn't know that.
That's all I needed.
Okay, but you've called in disagreeing before.
Okay, so I'm trying to understand.
Are you against impeaching George Bush?
I'm a Republican, so yeah.
So you don't think he lied about WMDs?
I didn't want to argue.
I just think he had bad information.
That's all I know.
Do you know about the White House memo where they premeditatedly talk about staging the discovery?
I don't remember, no.
Is this a joke?
No, it's not a joke.
I didn't call in to discuss that with you.
I just asked you about the Vice President.
No, but I'm trying to figure out with you, because, I mean, are you trying to call in to make me look good or something?
Well, no, because, I mean, people are now debating and thinking that you're a fake caller.
One person accused me of you being my cousin and calling in with stage phone calls.
No, ladies and gentlemen, he must be real.
I'm not proving to you that I'm real or them.
I don't know how to prove it to them.
Well, I just think they're so amazed, and I'm not being sarcastic or tongue-in-cheek here, they're so amazed by your ignorance, your willful ignorance, that they think you must be a fake caller.
Well, I'm trying to learn, I guess.
Well, I'm glad you're here today.
You're the only radio show I listen to, so I don't really listen to radio shows.
Okay, see, there's the quandary.
Because, you know, there's the enigma or the... Why do I listen to you?
Yeah, I mean, there's the... Yeah, that's what people are having trouble understanding.
That's the riddle.
How could you listen to this show all the time and then think I'm a liar?
Because you've called in and called me a liar before.
I probably shouldn't have said it like that.
I regret doing that.
I think you're joking.
I don't think you're serious.
That you're a liar?
No, I think this is a setup.
A setup for what?
I don't think you can routinely listen to this show and be as ignorant as you... Okay, but listen probably for a month.
Just a month.
I understand now.
Oh, okay.
Well, okay, are you starting to come around?
Not yet, but it might take some time.
Okay, I appreciate your call, Troy.
I want to get to other people here.
Yeah, Jack Blood was at the event Friday night, and he goes, Oh, that's your cousin, that stage.
And I said, No, it's not.
I said, That guy may be putting an act on, but I don't know him.
Who knows?
Tonto in Texas.
Tonto, you're on the air.
Go ahead.
Hey, how you doing there?
Glad to be a first-time caller.
Good to have you on board, Tonto.
How's the Lone Ranger doing, Kimo Sabe?
Oh, he's got me cleaning up horse droppings right now.
I'm just trying to get past that.
Here's the deal.
A couple of weeks ago, the Republicans were all celebrating, oh, we're going to have a big Republican suite.
We're going to win.
Well, you know what?
They won anyway.
They got their way.
And I just want to know one question, and then give you one more comment.
How many of the new Congress and the Senate voted for all of this legislation, voted for the military commissions?
How many are left?
The vast majority voted for all of it.
Yeah, great.
We're in great shape, aren't we?
But here's one thing I just noticed.
Of all of our stuff that we've been going through, you and all the videos I've seen, there's one person out of this whole bunch who, to me, is the most susceptible.
Well, we brought Larry Silverstein out here on air within weeks of the attack, and we really put the whole Building 7 issue on the map, and we've been attempting to do that, and I appreciate your call.
This is what tends to happen.
People look at the gold under one of the towers.
Billions of dollars confirmed.
Or people look at trillions in oil.
Or hundreds of billions in no-bid weapons contracts.
Or hundreds of billions a year in opium in Afghanistan.
Or CIA insider trading.
And they say, it was the CIA insider trading.
That's why they did 9-11.
Or it was so they could get $7.3 billion payout.
We're good to go.
We're good to go.
We're good to go.
So you had the Port Authority and a public-private partnership where the Rockefellers don't put up any money and they made the tens of billions in profit off of developing that lower Manhattan swampland right there by the edge of the Hudson.
And so that's what happened.
We're good to go.
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Former German Defense Minister, former Minister of Technology as well, and former head of the Reichstag Intelligence, he was the head of oversight in the Parliament, very intelligent, Andres von Bulow, has said clearly from all the evidence he's got, it looks as if they ran the attacks from Building 7, coordinating with an office in the Pentagon.
And people nitpick this.
You know, I say, I simplify it.
The CIA ran drills.
And then I get nitpicked by the disinfo artist out there going,
Oh, but look, it was a Pentagon protective office drill run with the Pentagon and NORAD.
It wasn't CIA.
This man's a disinfo agent.
The CIA broke the news three years ago in a press release bragging how they ran and wrote the drill, and then of course they did it in conjunction with the Pentagon and others.
Of course.
See, that's how strong, and I'm digressing already here, but I really ought to do a whole show on straw men attacks.
Because that's what they do to our movement.
They either go and attack some disinfo agent who openly puts out ridiculous information, like no planes hit tower one or two.
They either go attack stuff like that, and that's clear plants, or they claim we said things we didn't say, or they play little semantical games.
Now, let me go back to what the caller said because it's so important.
Let me go back to what Tonto was just discussing.
We need to focus on Silverstein.
Yes, that's one of the weakest parts of their story where we've caught them absolutely red-handed, hand in the cookie jar.
But for people who think they just carried out 9-11 to get 7 plus billion dollars, no.
This is what these master criminal networks do.
For every piece of the plan, they make sure that those that take part in it profit from it.
And so that's... You make $190 million something, it was like $198 million, upfront investment two months before.
Silverstein gets full control.
He takes out double insurance on both towers.
He's collected $7.3 billion now.
If you watch martial law, I say $6.something billion.
A straw person would nitpick that.
They'd say, oh look, it's really $7.3, but he says $6.9.
Well, he got more since then.
He got a little extra.
So, this is the type of stuff we're dealing with here.
Let's go ahead and talk to Fred in Philly.
Fred, welcome.
Greetings, Alex.
Greetings, Earthling.
What's up?
There's something very interesting that was on television.
I believe it was Harry Reid.
Around the 9th, he said that there's a critical need for arming our own forces on our own territory, on U.S.
territory, that there is not a single brigade
We're good to go.
Well, number one, that's a total lie.
It's the same thing the local city councils do, and these guys all come from the same place.
It's the same tricks at a higher level on a bigger scale.
They won't fill the potholes or put new radios in the police cars and ambulances until they've had four or five bond proposals and got them passed and then instantly invested that in private companies, and then they still don't put the money into it.
And so they always hold back on the bare essentials to telegraph the illusion that there's no money.
They have CIA now going into control of every major FEMA emergency management center in every major city, even mid-sized cities and small towns.
They have troops everywhere training with Mexican, Canadian, and other troops.
They have Homeland Security all over the place.
So that's really a lie, but I missed this.
$75 billion for domestic ops?
That is bigger than a... Well, that's almost bigger than the occupation cost each year of Iraq.
Well, he said it was for just military, general military spending to bring a... I think he used the word brigade.
Now, what is below division in military groups?
What is the unit below division, Alex?
You would know that.
No, my brain's not working.
Okay, well, it's not platoon, it's not division, it's not army, but he said there was not a single combat-ready brigade.
I think it was brigade in U.S.
territory because of the sending out of our forces out of the country and the mismanagement, the bad logistics, that they need to have all the tanks and all the things that...
That the Army has for a proper brigade.
But I mean, how could that get to that point?
Well, they always say that the military's in deep trouble and there's no money.
I appreciate your call.
I mean, this government spends more money than all other countries combined on defense.
Now, we don't get a lot for that because most of it is $15 billion and $5 billion planes and satellites that don't work and Lockheed Martin scams.
But it doesn't matter.
Have you ever wondered why Lockheed Martin, that sells stealth fighters and satellites, runs all these TV ads for the last 20 years?
That's a payoff to the news media, boys and girls.
Or it's a payoff to their own divisions.
A lot of the defense contractors own major stock in the media, and then they just basically fund themselves.
It's a revolving door of control.
But, oh no, they've got troops, they've got...
You know, a point that we should think about is this.
This is very important.
Well, I'm going to talk about it when we get back.
How do the 30 million illegal aliens play into this new world order?
I mean, you know they're there to drive down wages and they're there to balkanize the nation, but what else are they there for?
When we get back, we'll break it down and continue with your calls.
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Hey, I was saying, I always do this, before the break, somebody brought up a point, and I was saying I would finish it, and then people come in here and talk to me during the break, and I don't write a note, and I forget what it was.
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I think probably the previous caller, the word he was looking for was battalion.
I think maybe that was what he was looking for.
Anyway, I think that the press is the key.
I think if you were talking about earlier what ideas we have to get this thing going is we need to organize the public protests on days when the mainstream media cannot ignore
Well, I'll tell you this, though, and I agree we should engage in guerrilla info war.
That means jumping in front of live feeds.
That means holding signs up behind live feeds.
All of that is very effective where they can't do anything anywhere without us doing this.
The problem is we had 2,000 people at ground zero, and that's a conservative estimate, on 9-11, and always they'd show downtown Manhattan.
They would show...
Oh, well, I'm just saying, every time I talk to you, when I'm on hold, I make a list of things I want to say to you.
Also, I called you earlier on your TV show and said, if you publicized a timeline of your predictions versus the mainstream media coming around, it would almost be like a zigzag graph of, like, you would say, like, say, in January of 2004 about the New World Order, and people would call you, oh, he's crazy.
And then, fast forward about two years later, oh, okay, we admit it.
It would be this very consistent graph of diagonal lines from when you said it,
Well, are you on a cell phone?
Yes, I am, sir.
No, it just came back.
I think you said it would add a lot of credence to what we're saying to do that.
Yeah, that's...
You know, write it up.
Make the graph for those that have the skills.
Put it together.
Send it to us.
You know, have a link to the article I wrote or that Paul wrote, and then have our prediction or what we say, and then show it four years later, you know, in the mainstream news.
I mean, I think that's a great idea.
Not just predictions.
I've made predictions and analysis other people have made.
But, again, it's not that hard.
The CFR, the globalists, actually brag about what they're going to do to us, but it's in scholarly journals and dissertations.
It's never on the nightly news.
I've got one last thing I want to say.
It's easy for everybody to do, but they do on the Dave Long Clay show.
If we refer to the Republicans and Democrats as Republicans and Demoblicans, and don't even quit saying Republicans and Democrats, that would, like,
Well, that's right.
That's another good point.
Thanks for the call.
Great call.
And, you know, I try to do that.
I don't call Al Qaeda Al Qaeda.
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And I did coin that term.
I'm pretty darn proud of myself.
Well, let's be honest.
A couple weeks after 9-11, a caller coined it, and I openly said on air I was stealing it.
But let's say this.
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I popularized Al-C-I-A-D-A.
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I want to get into Cheney first and next on the chopping block.
This is from Wayne Madsen.
But before we get to that, give us kind of a preview of some of the other news stories and issues you're going to be discussing.
Well, obviously I want to talk about the post-election or post-changing of the guard issue.
And I think one of the most under-reported spawn and censor stories of 2006 is the deliberate and open declaration of psychological warfare on the American people via the agenda to infiltrate, regulate and pollute the internet.
That's right.
They just publicly announced what they've already been criminally doing.
And I'm amazed that it received so little attention, because in early September, Bush gave a speech in which he announced the declassification of the White House's own planning strategy on how to win the war on terror.
Which he said, you know, they'd been pursuing since 9-11 but was only just declassified two months ago.
And most of your listeners will remember Bush in front of the United Nations just a few days or a week after 9-11 in which he said we must never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories about 9-11.
Well, this in September was codified in the White House's own strategy paper
Which you can read on the White House website, which we link to when we put the articles out about this.
And so there's no stretch to say that Popular Mechanics and others, with members of Homeland Security's family running it, are just... And Hearst Publishing wrote the book on yellow journalism.
I mean, this is pure op.
Well, exactly, because it directly targets, quote, conspiracy theories...
As a wellspring for the ideas of terrorists and a recruiting ground for terrorists.
By the way, I was on Fox News last night on their website and there was a little featured video blog saying that, not just 9-11 truthers, but any liberal bloggers that were really working for Al Qaeda know.
Right, that's the new paradigm.
Not completely ignoring the National Intelligence Assessment which says that obviously it's the policies of the US government which
Create terrorists, it's their own policies and actions that do this, but know where the targets, the conspiracy theorists or the motivation for the terrorists, according to the White House's own strategy on winning the war on terror.
So you read that and you become very aware of the fact that there's this chilling effect which targets bloggers.
But Pandora's box has already opened.
The genie's out of the bottle.
The cat's out of the bag.
I mean, the dice have already been thrown.
I mean, I heard major pundits on show after show last night, well, two big national shows, all agreeing that the people hate the new world order, that's the new main political issue in America, that they hate globalism, they hate the North American Union, that both parties now have lost all credibility.
Right, because there's so many of us that have started our own websites that
It's very hard for them to overturn the sheer amount of people that are voicing their discontent.
Well, we also investigate whoever attacks us, and nine times out of ten, they're a big fat fed.
Well, yeah, and it's... I mean, The Guardian had an article in 2002 called The Fake Persuaders.
In which it was revealed that Monsanto hired fake bloggers to trash a scientific report about GM food contamination.
You know, Paul, that just gave me an idea.
You or your brother, great writers you are, shouldn't do just a story on the Pentagon's fake news.
We ought to do one on propaganda placement.
Remember you wrote one on my comments like four years ago, one of the first articles you wrote for me?
We ought to do one about propaganda placement, the art of fake news in 2006, and just break down all the admissions of this.
Go ahead.
You coined the term propaganda placement and it's the same thing that they would call viral marketing which is where they go in and create phony advocacy in campaign groups and activist groups purely out of false perception of creating
Artificially, supposedly what the majority think.
Oh, but the country's not going in the wrong direction, Paul.
Everything's fine.
Having the Pentagon running around secretly and now publicly planting news and lying to us is freedom.
Well, exactly.
And they would say they were, quote, setting the record straight on the war on terror, which is what this latest CENTCOM Pentagon initiative seeks to do, whereby they counter the propaganda of
The terrorists, which is what the White House has said, that the propaganda speaking out against the war on terror... Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly, all of them, and Laura Ingraham are saying we're Al-Qaeda now, when really their bosses are Al-Qaeda, Al-CIA.
I say more power to them.
In fact, let them even arrest me.
Show everybody just how evil you are.
Show them how you want to kill this country, you bastards.
Excuse me.
Well, exactly.
I mean...
You've also made the analogy.
They've loaded the gun, they've taken off the safety, they've held it right up against our heads, but not yet pulled the trigger.
They've got the infrastructure of tyranny and dictatorship in place.
And then along come the Democrats to save us all.
Will they tear down the infrastructure?
Well, we now know that it's just that.
They're calling for increased funding, domestic increased operations, everything.
They're just, do whatever James Baker says.
Oh, he's so wonderful.
Right, and they can play that scam by characterizing the political field over the next two years.
This is what's likely going to happen.
With political tokenism, which started last week with the resignation of Rumsfeld and is likely to continue, as you mentioned, with the top story we've got on prisonplanet.com, by Wayne Madsen, who predicted in late October that Rumsfeld would step down, that Cheney is going to be the next sacrificial lamb offered up in the arena, in the theatre of political tokenism.
Which feeds into the steam valve effect that has been perpetrated upon a discontented population with this election.
Well, this is huge steam valving we're witnessing and they must be desperate if they're doing that.
But I want them to know they can't put perfume on a pig.
I mean, I don't think they can put this back in the bottle again, Paul.
I mean, it's critical mass now.
People know they're murdering terrorists.
I mean, I think 9-11 Truth, I think, is the heart of this.
The general public now knows they're murdering terrorists.
And they know that James Baker and others control those that carried out the terror attacks.
They know Baker himself is a puppet.
And I'm just here to tell the government, your cover's blown, your credibility's gone, there's no putting it back together again.
I'm sorry.
Exactly, which is why we...
We're good to go.
It's still a long way from the sheer size and influence of the progressive community, which was starting to get involved with certain aspects of the 9-11 community.
Which would have been a huge engine we need.
That engine's basically out of gas, so we've just got to crank the others up even higher.
That's right, because you've always had the establishment left gatekeepers, like your Counterpunch and your Capitol Hill Blue and Democracy Now and people like that.
So we got to throw that gas back into the engine and crank it up again.
Because as many people noticed, as soon as the results came through last week, the establishment crowd had a giddy, celebratory and accusatory tone saying that this has changed it, we've won the battle, now we can get on with the agenda.
And it's a scam.
Yeah, you 9-11 conspiracy people need to go back to sleep and there's no election fraud and go back to sleep, everything's fine.
We're not going back to sleep.
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They now know that the world government even exists.
They now know the name Bilderberg.
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I want to get into a revolt that is forming against the traitor Nancy Pelosi.
I want to also get more into Dick Cheney.
Will he be stepping down?
Who Robert Gates really is?
And the whole Iran situation, what else CIA is up to?
But Paul Watson right now, let's go to some calls.
Omar in Michigan, you're on the air.
Hey, how y'all doing today, American citizens?
Death to the New World Order.
The New World Order must be destroyed along with the United Nations Council of Foreign Relations, the 300 Committee, all corporations and news groups that help them.
What do you think about that?
Amen to that, my friend.
Hey, because, you know, it's war.
They're waging war on us.
They are.
You know, and they done killed, murdered 3,000 people on September 11th.
And all the proof is there against them.
And these Democrats talk about no...
No impeachment.
Even Conyers.
You know, I mean, that's just ridiculous.
And if we stand for that, we like a rape victim that they've been raped seven or eight times and then nine or ten, we go back.
Well, absolutely.
And people really thought Conyers and others would do something.
They thought Waxman would do something.
They're going to do nothing.
And if they do have some little hearing, it'll be some petty issue.
It'll be a straw man.
Straw men go... Well, there's multiple types of straw men.
But a lot of it isn't just claiming somebody said something they didn't to discredit them.
Also, straw men are straw men investigations where they'll go after Bush for something he didn't really do or basically flummox up the whole investigation.
It's the same thing.
Look, they're blackmailing those they can blackmail.
They're threatening those they can threaten.
But they can't get us all.
It's just like Bush said.
You're either with the American people or you're against them.
And we've got to hold their feet to the fire on that.
I agree.
Paul Watson comments on... Oh, by the way, Howard Dean is going to try to, quote, help the Labour Party and Tony Blair in the next election.
That's how traitorous Howard Dean is.
Comments, Paul?
Well, yeah, because a lot of the British people are going to fall for the same scam.
Because the Tories, the opposition party to Labour, have come out against national ID cards.
And again, some of the key issues that the British populist hate blare for.
So they may fall for the same scam and vote in the Tories, which dovetail with former President H.W.
Bush's same agenda back in the early 90s when the Tories were in power.
But look at it this way.
If you were Karl Rove, and if there was really any difference between the Democrats and the Republicans, what would you do for the next two years?
You'd make Bush come out with this Reagan-esque populist rhetoric about how he's going to close the borders, how he's going to stop the sell-out of key U.S.
infrastructure to foreign nations like the ports and the Chinese takeover and NAFTA, North American Union, Trans-Texas Corridor.
And then that would reinvigorate the GOP base, which had been so discontented with Bush, and you would probably get an easy election of a Republican candidate like John McCain in 2008.
Let me just add, this is key, and thanks for the call on, Mark.
Great points.
Let me just add that when he had control of both houses, he couldn't do that because they've got to move the agenda forward.
But now that the Democrats have it, they can act like they're trying to do it, but just can't get it passed.
And that's exactly what they're doing.
In fact, Limbaugh's even admitted it now.
I can't believe he must have taken truth serum.
That, quote, in a sick way, George Bush wanted the Democrats to win.
There's no sick way about it.
Now they can get their agenda through of totally open borders, Paul.
Right, because the mass amnesty of illegal aliens was being prevented by Bush's own Republican Congress.
The Democrats are all for it.
You mentioned the investigations that Pelosi, Dean and Conyers have now backed away from completely.
Will public pressure and popular opinion and other...
Yeah, and again I'm no Democrat, but in fairness to Conyers and others,
If they don't tell the line, they just better stay out of small airplanes.
That's all I'm saying.
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Paul, I want to talk about the positive news here.
And I hope you or your brother will do a piece, or maybe Slickheisen or maybe Dykes will do a piece on this.
Or maybe I'll do a piece.
I write maybe an article or two a week myself about the positive things that are happening because it really let me... I heard the panic in their voices by Republican pundits, Democratic pundits on...
Different national shows last night.
It mirrors what I've seen in the major polls, but it was the first time I heard mainstream talking about it.
Then I was watching some TV late last night on the computer, some clips, and they were saying it on MSNBC and CNN, and that's that there's a new populist movement, that both parties aren't trusted, that it's anti-war, anti-globalism, anti-New World Order.
They even use that term, anti-North American Union.
We're good to go.
We're good to go.
Well, as I've said in the past, the benchmark of our success is the fact that we are engaged in a form of brinksmanship whereby we're curtailing the advancement of the agenda which they thought would be light years ahead of what it is now.
After 9-11, we were led to believe that America would come under bioterrorist attack.
There would be more attacks on the scale of 9-11 and higher, you know, on an almost
And I told you they wouldn't do that.
They wouldn't do that.
They still had a little gas mileage in Busch.
We're good to go.
And get some real results and kind of leave a legacy.
Because if we don't leave a legacy, then the past five years have been completely in vain.
It also tells the world that we don't support this war.
It may be a fake changing of the guard, rearranging of deck chairs, but at least the world knows and that's good.
I mean, we've been accused of being defeatist, negative.
We haven't said that the fact they've changed the guard
You know, doesn't make it more likely that they'll launch a war on Iran.
They probably won't, because the propaganda that they've put out have said that's going to happen.
They've had to change the guard.
It's haven't.
But if the legacy isn't left, then...
You know, if you create a system whereby you openly trash the Constitution, abolish Geneva Conventions, surveil and spy on the American people, and launch illegal, unjustified wars which kill hundreds and thousands of people, and don't face the consequences, then that infrastructure is still set up whereby a John McCain or a Hillary Clinton will waltz in
And notice how in the mainstream media, even with Colbert, no discussion now of the Military Commissions Act.
No discussion of the Defense Authorization Act 2007.
No discussion of the Patriot Act.
Again, Bush takes the blame.
They put in the Baker crowd who was already in control.
Daddy's now in control.
Time Magazine makes fun of him.
Bush takes some fake lumps like he did on Katrina.
They designed that to fall apart.
They block the aid to make it worse.
Then FEMA gets more funding.
Then Bush acts like he's screwed up.
Their masters are falling on their swords.
This is just more good cop, bad cop.
Well, exactly.
And a lot of the left-wing crowd have bought it.
I mean, every time I visit a left-leaning website now, whereas beforehand, you know, they had a lot of excellent material on those kind of websites.
Yeah, they were showing the concentration camps and New World Order and what's happening and what Bush is doing.
Now it's like, oh, I just love Hillary.
The quotes that I've seen, and obviously there's a minority that haven't gone along with this, and that's good, but
The majority have, and the quotes are like, now we have the power, now we have the power.
You don't have any power.
They've invested their power into the hands of Pelosi, Dean, and this turncoat John Conyers, who have all publicly stated that impeachment is off the table.
But there's no mention of that.
It's this egotistical power trip that now we have the power.
And they really think that they're in control of anything.
Which is exactly what Republicans did with Bush.
It's that personal power, you know, living in Michigan or living in Ohio or Texas.
Democrats just going around feeling good and polishing the bumper stickers on their cars and feeling like they had a victory.
Just like a sports fan gets off at a primitive level on their team winning.
It may feel good, folks, but at the end of the day, it does nothing for your life, nothing for your society.
Well, yeah, you make the sports analogy.
You can take one in England.
In the late 90s, Manchester United won the league title of soccer every year, and everybody hated Manchester United.
And then the next year, Chelsea won the title, and so everybody liked Chelsea just because they'd beaten Manchester United.
And now Chelsea have won the title for three years running.
Everybody hates Chelsea.
So it's a big theatre sports analogy team thing where they don't realise that both sides are controlled.
So, you know, even if they bring some of the troops home,
Where's the motivation to not turn them on the American people with the infrastructure that Bush has already set up, which they are not going to repeal according to their own statements, or simply send them away to face the latest manufactured threat abroad?
This is the discussion I wanted to have today, and I'm glad we're having it.
Justin in New York, thanks for holding her on the air.
Yes, sir, go ahead.
Just wanted to thank the great affiliates up here in Rochester, WASB 1590.
You probably know the late Dr. Wolf, who set that station up.
Just want to thank them.
Oh, yeah, Dr. Wolf died a few years ago.
He was a great guy.
I was really sad.
Yeah, I actually go to that church now where he used to pastor.
I just wanted to ask you a question.
I've heard you now a couple times reference this thing where Bill Clinton was recruited by George H.W.
Bush, and I went looking for that information because I actually write articles in my school newspaper at the university I go to.
I write articles every week, carte blanche, whatever I want to write, and I've been throwing missiles at the New World Order, but I'd like to write an article about this because... Sure, sure, let me be clear.
We know that Bush, Sr.,
Was recruited into CIA by the mid-1950s.
We know Bush Sr.
was involved in the Dallas operation in 1963.
We know that in the late 60s, when Clinton went to Oxford, that he did have some connections in recruiting with the CIA.
You have to go dig that up, but that's come out.
You know, just like Anderson Cooper was at the CIA, you know, the big guy on CNN.
This is where they recruit, is out of the Ivy League in England and here.
Then we know...
From Terry Reed and a bunch of other CIA operatives that I've interviewed, that there were different Bushes out at MENA, that Clinton worked for them.
We know that Bush Sr., and I have to go dig all this up, had 11 meetings with Clinton in the years before he ran for president.
We know he went to Bilderberg.
And now it's even more clear.
Clinton's called a surrogate son of the Bushes.
He vacations with them.
Yeah, I remember...
I think it was at the end of last year we wrote specifically like two or three different articles outlining all those points that you just made.
So I will repost them tonight just for the caller.
And that outlines the cozy relationship that they have had and which has obviously been proven by the fact that they have this foundation together whereby
They go around cuddling each other and kissing up to each other on every issue and make it very public.
So I'll repost those.
And that was always the case.
And understand, when I say recruited by CIA, we know he had connections to George Bush before he even got in
Well, I have one more comment, if you could give me a moment.
Yeah, go ahead.
I consider myself a pretty devout Christian, and I'm
I often have people listen to your show with me and watch your videos to wake them up because I know that you're a Christian man.
So I just wanted to encourage you to spend some time in God's Word to get your strength because I know, and I'm not criticizing you, I'm just as an encouragement, brother, and anyone out there who considers themselves a Christian, don't get too wrapped up in looking at the evil in the face while neglecting God's Word.
If that makes sense.
Listen, I totally agree with you.
I love when I get a chance to read the Bible or hear a good sermon.
So, I mean, listen, I know whose side I'm on, and I appreciate your call.
That's a great call.
Let's go ahead and go to Ron.
Ron, where are you calling us from?
I know Ron's there.
Ron, are you there?
Yeah, I just had a blank on this.
Good afternoon, guys.
Go ahead.
Hello, sir.
Yeah, I wanted to respond to your Friday show.
You were talking about the Godfather movie and the Kennedy assassination.
So I've been working on something for a couple of years, and I'm going to try to link both Kennedy assassinations to the New World Order.
And the other movie that you might want to look at is the Bugsy Siegel story, that movie.
And if you just put the Godfather 2 movie together with the Bugsy Siegel movie... Yeah, Hyman Roth.
Yeah, you'll have your...
You know, you'll have your Kennedy assassination, and also you'll start the border.
You can see who the New World Order is.
Well, of course the Kennedy assassination is connected to the New World Order.
They killed both of them.
Yeah, but that's in the movie.
In other words, they've come forward themselves, okay?
So even though I'm trying to put this together, they've already done it.
They've already come forward.
In the Bugsy Siegel story?
Yes, right.
If you're only going to watch the two movies, if you just want to, let's say, make a connection, it's in the Bugsy Siegel story in the movie that Warren Beatty was the star of that, and it's Godfather 2.
So both of those movies almost repeat each other.
And they at least give you the idea of why Kennedy was assassinated.
It has to do with laundromat business.
Alright, I appreciate your call.
Very interesting.
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Hello, Alex?
I understand you believe there's a conspiracy theory with Child Protective Services?
Well, I actually work for Child Protective Services in Pennsylvania.
There's no conspiracy theory.
It's a fact that federal numbers, five times more likely for children to be abused
We don't drug children.
We take advice from the doctors.
And second, you were talking about those drills, I guess, in Michigan.
Yeah, where they put guns to their heads.
Well, those drills, there's nothing really wrong with those drills because it teaches the children not to bring guns to school, not to bring knives to school.
You know, they see worse on TV.
There you go.
You're admitting that terrorism is to make them hate guns and hate the Second Amendment, but the lying feds that pay for this all over the country, where SWAT teams run into eight-year-olds and scream at them while they cry and beg, and it isn't what they see on TV.
While they traumatize them, it's really about letting them not like it.
But they tell the parents it's when the terrorists attack so the kids know what to do.
Let me tell you something, sicko.
It's not normal to put guns in little kids' heads while they cry.
And see, you think it's so normal.
You people are designed to destroy society and unravel society.
And a whole bunch of you are perverts.
A big percentage of the time you're a bunch of perverts.
Look, I've taken a lot of children from incompetent parents.
Yeah, you like it, don't you?
You like the power trip.
There's a lot of bad parents out there, Dave.
There's a lot of bad... Hey!
Let me tell you something.
You're five times more likely to abuse children.
That's the Justice Department's own numbers.
You have no place to do anything.
A bunch of sickos want your job, who feed off pain and suffering.
Even good... You have the highest turnover in the country.
50% of CPS workers quit in one year because they're not sickos.
Only the sickos can keep doing that job.
I haven't seen any sickos here in Pennsylvania, sir.
Yeah, I bet.
Yeah, you think putting guns to little children's heads unannounced, a door busting open, and a SWAT team running in under a federal drill, screaming at little kids is normal?
You people are sick!
You're an actual demon!
You make me sick!
You make me sick!
Everybody should get their children out of the public schools so creeps like this can't get a hold of them.
They'll come to your house.
They'll trick their way in.
One dirty dish, they take your kid.
Then they go dump them in these big foster homes with dozens of kids and cockroaches and they beat the kids up.
You think homeschooling is any better?
Well, first off, my son actually got sick
From playing with this kid down the street here who's homeschooled.
Pure bull, you idiot, ignorant piece of trash!
If your child's been vaccinated, they can't get something from somebody.
Stay there.
Paul Watson, I've got to let you go.
I appreciate you coming on.
We may even cancel the next guest.
If you're willing to stay on here, I'll settle down and I'll let you talk.
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All right, I'm going to settle down.
Out of the gates, this CPS worker, Jeff in Pennsylvania, says that he thinks the drills...
Going on around the country are okay.
These are the admitted drills.
We're unannounced.
SWAT teams come in and yell and scream at elementary and middle school students while they cry and scream and line them up, putting guns to their heads, screaming at them.
He says that's good because it teaches them not to light guns, not to bring guns to school.
I mean, total, total denial.
Traumatizing them.
Then he started bringing up homeschooling.
Let me guess.
You don't think homeschooling should be legal, do you?
Well, the quality of the education is really in question because
These people who are teaching the homeschoolers don't have the same experience.
Should you have to have a license to have children?
A license?
Well, you just said, can't we teach our own children?
Do we have to put them in your government school?
Well, there's a lot they wouldn't learn if they didn't go to school.
That's right.
They need to be socialized in Illinois and California are moving to try to ban homeschooling.
Do you support that?
Well, I believe parents should have to pass a test to teach their kids.
That's right.
Go to the state.
Hey, did you know this used to be called Land of the Free, Home of the Brave?
Just 20 years ago, you told somebody they couldn't raise their children, they'd laugh at you.
Man, what kind of control freak are you, boy?
I don't know what you mean.
I mean, you think it's good for the SWAT teams to go in and terrorize children.
But you don't think it's terrorizing, do you?
Well, when they go into the school, I'm sure while it's happening, they probably assure the children and tell, you know... No!
No, I have the AP.
I have video of it.
My God, what's... Are you so blind?
You know, you think this is normal?
You think this is good?
Let me ask you, are you like the CPS worker that tricks their way into the house because the neighbor said they saw something and you see a dirty dick and you trick them into signing a paper without due process and snatch their kids?
Well, there's no tricking that's involved.
I go to the house, and then, you know, if there's cause to believe, you know, it's all lawful.
Oh, you decide!
You're the judge and you're the jury.
You decide and make the determination, huh?
Whatever happened to due process, you monster?
Well, it all depends on how credible the complaint is from a neighbor.
Ah, you decide.
You're the judge and jury.
Your judge dread.
Since when in America did one person decide this stuff?
And on your recommendation, this judge, they created these new courts.
And Bush has created new courts now that he says have all this authority.
Do you say those are legitimate?
Which type of court?
The military?
All of it!
That's what your courts are!
They create these things 35, 40 years ago, just give them new power.
The idiot public doesn't know it's on a real court.
Doesn't Congress have the power to establish these courts by the people?
These courts have been set up at the state and county level by these... This is all administrative law judge behavior, and the whole thing's about tricking parents.
And please don't tell me it isn't.
It's about getting kids in the system.
Don't you know that the more CPS they hire, the worse the numbers for everything in this society?
Everything's unraveling.
So you never knew.
You never knew that you guys are five times more likely to hurt children in your custody.
The most dangerous place for children is in your custody.
That was on the cover of Time Magazine.
Are you saying you don't know about that?
Look, I would have to see what these numbers are based on.
Listen, listen.
You are the worst group of people in the country statistically.
You ought to have some shame!
Look, I don't hate children at all.
We're trying to help.
Sure you don't.
Hey, did you hear about the 3,000 kids missing in Florida that CPS grabbed?
No, I did not.
Huge national story for years.
You never heard about... Well, okay, mm-hmm.
Well, if the kids run away, it's not our fault.
And they're found with their heads chopped off.
Hey, did you hear about the three top pedophiles running the Florida CPS system?
Miami Herald, you hear about that?
Look, there's a couple of bad apples, but, you know, it's not as widespread as you say.
Oh, oh, okay.
All right.
Well, I'll just trust you to not have any due process.
Yeah, I don't need due process.
We'll just make you king.
How's that sound?
Stay there, Jeff.
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Two years ago, a UT student brought to my attention, and I confirmed as the UT textbook used, the Calhoun Reader, what they call the family of disease, and that we need to be eradicated.
I've had the former...
Ahead of policy, number two position, Department of Education on.
She published a book the size of a phone book with the documents about how they're going to break up the family.
Since the welfare state came in in the 60s, we've gone from 10% to 15% illegitimacy in this country to, in some different ethnic groups, over 90%.
And in whites, it's almost reached 50%.
In blacks, it's over 90%.
And, oh, thank you, government.
Thank you for all you do.
Oh, it's so wonderful.
And so we're talking to...
Jeff in Pennsylvania, who says he's a CPS worker, and then he says he doesn't know that CPS workers have a 50% turnover each year, because they're not all evil.
In fact, it was a CPS worker in New York who blew the whistle two years ago on how they take the little black kids and give them pesticides and some of the tests kill them.
I mean, that's in the New York papers, boys and girls, with big pharma.
I mean, this is nightmare on Elm Street type stuff.
This is like coma or the island.
I mean, this is really going on.
This is the state, the same state that gave black men syphilis and let them spread it and die of it, the same state that sterilized 450,000 women, the same social worker corps.
The Margaret Sangers of this country are the ones that took girls who were from single-parent homes with under a B+, up until the mid-80s, and would sterilize them.
I wonder if you support the state doing that.
Are you into social hygiene there, Jeff?
Well, first off, let me make an analogy here.
The child protective system is kind of like the criminal justice system.
And our criminal justice system isn't perfect, you know.
There's some police officers that might violate someone's rights.
Listen, there's a criminal court there.
You guys have got kangaroo courts, buddy.
We don't need you.
If there's actual crimes being committed, then the police should be involved.
Well, I don't think the police can be expected to deal with... Yeah, we need a special core of people like you out there.
Let me ask you a question.
You brought up homeschooling, and you basically said you think homeschooling should be banned?
Well, not banned.
I think it should be...
Regulated for the education of the children for the quality.
Oh, yeah.
You know, the government brings such quality.
Yeah, you do such a great job.
You talk about this evil homeschool that got your kids sick?
Well, yeah.
My son was playing down the street, you know, with one of his friends who is homeschooled.
We ought to just go snatch their kids.
That's what control freaks do.
Sorry, go ahead.
I mean, you're God.
You make all the decisions.
I mean, you're God, man.
Somebody died and made you God.
No judge, no jury.
There's just Jeff God.
Here's God.
Bow down to the king.
Oh, hail you.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Tell me about the kid.
Well, my son got a really serious case of the flu.
And I don't think... And you just know it came from that child.
Well, there's a pretty good chance.
I mean, he... What does that even mean, you buffoon?
Well, I'm saying that the homeschool child probably didn't get the same kind of health care that the school offers.
That child is without those protections or illnesses.
Let me ask you a question.
I'm just curious.
And to be clear, I don't care what education you got.
I'm just curious.
What medical education do you have?
Well, I...
Okay, let me just give you a little news flash here, okay?
This is Associated Press.
The last five flu seasons in a row, the variant flu mutation that they mass-produced was not for the main flu strain.
Okay, so number one, there's no law you've got to take a flu shot.
Number two, the last five years it hasn't even matched the mutation of the actual flu that hits North America.
Okay, that's admitted.
It's called faxed.
And then number three, you have no idea where your son got the flu, but you are like somebody who says throw the Jew down the well in the Middle Ages because the Jews knew to eat garlic and take different medicinals so they didn't die of the plague, and so they went and grabbed the Jews and threw them down the well because they were ignorant!
They were ignorant!
So you're saying that the flu vaccinations don't protect against the flu?
That's exactly what Tommy Thompson said three years ago.
That's exactly what's all over the news.
You didn't hear about the big scandal?
That's not what our family doctor said.
That's not what your family doctor who just does exactly what the AMA says.
Oh, so your family doctor... Well, just, hey, roll your sleeve up and you give you and your son... You know, that's how you people curse yourselves.
You believe in this system that has come to kill, steal, and destroy you.
And you just go ahead and believe.
Just take your mercury.
Do you believe mercury is good for children's brains?
Because federal studies have shown that.
Well, I don't think that mercury is safe.
Oh, excuse me!
Your all-powerful state says so.
Can you cue up the Mercury Nutritious clip, please?
Oh, so, again, sir, do you just trust the whole... This is so sick.
You know something?
I have been at the hospital with a family whose first child was taken because they were poor.
And they're there to have another child, and they openly... I got the court filings.
I did a whole TV show on it.
I ought to grab that tape and put it on the web.
In fact, Mike Hanson, you're listening, you've got a copy of that.
CPS grabs kids show.
I want to put that on the web for folks to see.
We're there with the video camera, and the cop grabs the woman around the throat and makes her sign a form.
Again, the Soviet Union, they tortured you underground secretly to sign forms.
I've never... Well, a couple times, you know, I...
I've tried to be calm with them and explain to them about the paperwork, but that can be pretty hard if they don't understand what they're getting into.
I'm not forcible, if that's what you mean.
Listen to me.
What I'm saying to you is don't you understand that you don't have the power to take them until you trick them into signing?
Don't you understand that's totally un-American?
Well, I don't get my powers from any documents.
You know, it comes from the same type of authority that a police officer might have, you know?
You're there tricking them to sign over custody to you, you freak!
Well, you know, again, you have to explain to the parents that it's really for their child.
You know...
We do it for the children, and we have a child protective service system that works, and you're trying to bat it down.
And there's a lot of positive things that we do that you don't talk about.
You're just talking about the day.
Okay, tell us all the positive stuff you do.
Well, first off, you look in the news, there's tons of stories about babies being thrown in dumpsters.
Yeah, the media hypes the hell out of that, and they should be criminally charged, okay?
Of course there's criminal stuff going on, sir.
But listen, I know wealthy people, okay?
I mean folks that are living in $2 million, $3 million houses.
I mean people that make a lot of money, who wear Brooks Brothers suits, whose children are totally taken care of immaculately.
And one of them is three years old and jumps off the jungle gym and breaks a finger and CPS is at the hospital trying to snatch him.
My father is an oral surgeon and a dentist and when I was at the pool, when I was about 12 years old and partially tore my shoulder out of place, my dad going to the hospital where he worked said, son, and he was concerned, he said, they're going to ask how this happened?
They may call in CPS and my father was concerned because he works around you freaks.
Well, if something happened that was an accident, you know, CPS shouldn't get involved.
No, you decide!
CPS is there all the time!
Well, it's not entirely our decision.
Yeah, I know, they threaten the doctors and tell them that they're liable if anything, you know, that happens, you know, they're liable for not reporting it, so the doctors are turning into little secret police officers.
I wouldn't say that.
The doctors are very independent and offer their recommendations to me as to what happens in cases that involve injuries like that.
But I don't think that we should just give up on the CPS.
You need to have... Hey, hey, hey, hey.
Bill of Rights, Constitution, due process.
Okay, you guys are outside the law, and you may not understand that, but you need to get back inside the law.
So you're saying we're not in the law?
Yeah, you're not inside the law.
Family courts are a fraud.
Let me stop you.
I reposted a newscast from three years ago where Judge Jean Muir, who has a juvenile justice center named after her, when the children are late to class three times, they illegally, and we went before the legislature on this, they're trying to change it,
They claim that's a truancy, but one absence is not a truancy, and being late three times is not an absence.
And then she sits there and tricks the parents and says, Okay, sign this form.
Your child will now be on probation.
If they do one thing wrong, I'm going to take them.
And the parents are in there in the portable building where she holds court with the other judges, and then they're busy tricking them to get into administrative law court to basically go on to probation when no crime's even been committed.
It's called contract fraud, bubba.
It's like you tricked somebody to basically become a sharecropper.
Well, I think that you have a couple of these cases that come up, and there are criminal workers out there.
Just a guy last week was fired at the office that I work at, but these things happen.
What was he fired for?
Well, they're...
I don't think I can discuss that on the air.
Well, let me just tell you something, sir.
There's a lot of people like you who have been conditioned and think because you're not an evil person that everything else around you isn't corrupt.
And you need to stop being naive, and you need to find out the fact about your industry that it's there to break up families, to hop kids up on drugs, because you get more federal funding when you do it.
Okay, and what I'm talking about is reality.
I appreciate you calling, and I hope you'll call in again sometime, but I'm sorry that I called you a bunch of names.
I just, I detest people that abuse children, and you're the biggest abusers out there.
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I want to get back into Chaney.
Will he be kicked out?
Well, let's go ahead and talk to Greg in Connecticut.
Then we'll talk to Dustin, Thomas, and others.
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How are you?
I was talking to the folks running the show.
That guy was for real.
They were talking to him during the break.
I mean, that just... The type of low-grade morons we got out there that don't even know the evil system they're in.
And I just wanted to say, you know, you're number two on, if you go to shoutcast.com, you're number two on the list for talk radio.
Well, that's just one of our streams.
If you combine our streams, I'm always number one.
But thank you.
And, you know, I was just looking at this blog, and, you know, Bush, you know, before the elections, he said, yeah, Rumsfeld's going to stay with me to the end, you know, and then two days later, you know, he says, all right, Rumsfeld's out.
All right, awesome.
You know, he just obviously lies, you know, and then... And political strategists have said that if he would have outed him two weeks before, Republicans would have held on to more seats.
Again, this is by design.
You know, my Senator, Senator Lieberman, he wanted an independent, you know, he used to be a Democrat, and now he's saying that, you know, being a Republican is a possibility.
I'm not boxing that out.
I'm definitely looking into that.
So then, if he does that, then they're going to be the majority in the state.
Well, yeah, it'll be 50-50, and then you'll have Lord Cheney as the tiebreaker.
That's right.
And then one more thing.
You said you forgot what you were going to say before that commercial break.
You were about to talk about 30 million immigrants, about the borders and everything.
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Listen, I really appreciate your call.
Thanks for reminding me.
The first hour, I said, I'll talk about it when we get back.
And I got back and I said, what was it I was going to talk about?
This broadcast is the opposite of scripted, ladies and gentlemen.
Yeah, the 30 million illegal aliens, at least half of them are radicals who believe this is Mexico, who openly talk about violent revolution.
The Ford Foundation, the federal government, and others are clearly in control of these groups.
And the globalists can crash the economy when they want.
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city burned to the ground by the illegal aliens.
So the New World Order's got some aces in the hole here.
We're sure the American people are waking up.
There's a grassroots populist move against globalism.
But at the same time, we're not out of the woods yet.
So this illegal alien problem, and what's Bush doing?
Amnesty, which is his, quote, guest worker program.
It's just, here it comes with Pelosi.
Let's go ahead and talk to Dustin in Deutschland.
Dustin, welcome.
Alex, what's going on, buddy?
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I know that's right.
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No, that's it.
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Alex, what...
What we need to do right now is like the perfect time for just like all of us to just like unify, you know what I mean?
Because I'm a little concerned right now with all the rats that are leaving the sinking ship.
You know what I mean?
We got to unify.
Don't take our eyes off of them and don't let them try to sneak out the back door.
I agree.
They're more dangerous than ever.
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It's all just going to be an empire of dirt.
You better do the right thing while you live.
The man who dies the most toys loses.
It's who stands up and does the right thing.
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The Democrats, Pelosi, and others are totally bought and paid for by the very same global lobbyists.
And I told everybody, you watch.
They're going to go in there and they're not going to do a single thing.
We're good to go.
And we don't hear the Democrats now, at least the mainstream ones, saying repeal H.R.
6166, Military Commissions Act, repeal the Military Authorization Act that ends Posse Comitatus, no talk of Patriot Act, and I guess we get a Hillary in there, Democrats will suddenly be pro-war, pro-torture, pro-world government.
I mean, it's like Republicans abandon every value they have because George Bush got in office.
It's not about these puppets.
All right, joining us, and I appreciate him coming on, is David Swanson, and he helped set up EdwardDowningStreet.org.
He also is the Washington director of Democrats.com and the ImpeachPact.org.
He's the creator of Meet with Cindy and a board member of Progressive Democrats of America.
He's worked as a newspaper reporter and as a communications director with jobs, including press secretary for Dennis Kucinich.
I think we're good to go.
We're good to go.
We're good to go.
Well, I certainly see the progressive wing having grown in the election.
There are more progressive Democrats in Congress.
There are dozens of Democrats in Congress who are talking about the Patriot Act and the Military Commissions Act and so forth.
That being said, there are dozens who are not, including the leadership, Pelosi, Dean, Emanuel, the rest of them.
And for Nancy Pelosi or Emanuel or Conyers or anyone,
To say that impeachment is off the table is a disgrace.
It's to tear up the Constitution.
Even if we didn't know already of overwhelming evidence of impeachable offenses, to suggest that you're going to do investigations but you will somehow forbid them from arriving at impeachment is to ignore key sections of the Constitution and your duty as a member of Congress.
Again, that being said, I'm not depressed or defeated or pessimistic.
I actually am increasingly confident, as many people are, that we are going to get to impeachment.
But to do it will require a movement from American people of the sort that forced Nixon to leave town.
Well, there was also that grassroots movement going after Clinton.
Well, in a way.
I mean, it was sort of a grass-tops movement.
I mean, public support for impeaching Clinton never got above 37%.
No, but I'm saying there were a lot of conservatives on the ground lobbying for it.
A lot is a vague term.
There were certainly conservatives in key places lobbying for it.
But it did serious damage to our country.
I don't care about Clinton.
I wanted him impeached for some serious reasons.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Our constitutional system and the role that impeachment plays, and now people see impeachment as a joke, see it as a distraction, see it as slowing down useful activities, and imagine that impeachment is all about technical legalities of whether you lied under oath.
And people are telling me all the time, oh, Bush didn't lie under oath.
What his ears is, yeah.
Which is...
Impeachment is about somebody setting up a unitary executive and saying they have dictatorial powers and having their viceroys write memos saying they can torture children with pliers.
Ridiculous, right?
Impeachment is about abuses of power and threats to our system of government.
Bush has committed endless crimes, among them intentionally misleading Congress in writing and orally, which is a felony.
You don't have to lie under oath to break the law.
Sure, sure.
But lying to the public is not a crime, and it is an impeachable offense.
Well, David, this audience knows that.
What I want to get at is how do we get the impeachment process to take place without anthrax hitting the Capitol again, Bush launching that, or a bunch of small plane crashes.
With members of Congress on board.
How do we stop?
I mean, I think they also know in the Congress that Bush isn't playing around and is a crime family.
And it's also quite dangerous to go up against President Bush.
Plus, the top Democrats are telling us, oh, James Baker is wonderful.
He's here with his independent commission, the Iraq Study Group, to save us.
And so now they're just going to try to put the whole debate into this big discussion and try to neutralize populist momentum against what these people are doing.
Yeah, and that commission may not come out with anything in the end.
But we have to do two things, I think.
We have to do an inside strategy and an outside strategy.
And the inside strategy is pushing the Democrats hard to start the right investigations.
Investigations that we know will end up at impeachment.
And the outside part
is not backing off an inch, not turning our rhetoric into investigations, but building a public uproar for impeachment.
They have to know that that's what we want.
And so we've got a huge coalition built, bigger than we've ever had before.
People are actually optimistic.
And we've set up a website, impeachforchange.org.
We're still using afterdowningstreet.org.
We're launching a petition drive.
We're going to collect millions of signatures.
We are organizing people to lobby their Congress members now, and we're planning events everywhere in the country on December 10th, which is a Sunday, and it's Human Rights Day.
We're making it Human Rights and Impeachment Day.
We're going to have town hall forums and rallies and vigils that day, and organize and organize and organize, and in January, get people to D.C.
lobbying and protesting and sitting in and raising hell.
We're going to get there.
I actually think we're going to get there.
And if we get the investigations going and we don't get to impeachment, that's still ahead of where we were.
And if we get impeachment but we don't get removal from office, that's still two steps ahead of where we were.
Yeah, David Swanson, why do you think...
Pelosi and others didn't at least pay lip service.
Why do you think instantly?
I mean, now, in fact, I said Wednesday, I said she's already had a meeting with Bush.
It's the exact same talking points.
It turns out at about 7.50 something in the morning, they had a long talk.
They all, you know, Howard Dean and Pelosi and Bush's people.
Bush talked to Pelosi, then he had her over the next day for lunch.
I mean, they were on the same page before the Senate was even decided.
In Virginia and Montana.
This is disgusting.
Well, Nancy Pelosi is a Democrat, and Democrats don't know how to think, and they like to lose.
And, you know, if the Democrats hadn't held off on impeachment under Reagan with Iran-Contra, they wouldn't have lost that next election so horribly.
They would have won.
You look back through history, pushing impeachment is good for you politically.
When the Republicans tried to impeach Truman, it was good for them in the next election.
And so...
Nancy Pelosi doesn't understand what's smart politically.
But, you know, it's a weird situation because looking back at past cases, the leadership has always gone in saying we're not interested in impeachment, we just want investigations.
And then they get to impeachment.
But here, the evidence of impeachable offenses is staring us all in the face before the investigations start, and so nobody believes it, and it looks...
What about a war crimes court in Germany?
There's 11 plaintiffs who were tortured at Abu Ghraib under memos and orders given by Donald Rumsfeld.
Will that help if Rumsfeld is indicted in absentia?
It will help the world to have some accountability for a criminal like Donald Rumsfeld.
Well, exactly, but will that be a focusing lens here domestically of reminding people it isn't about lying, even about WMDs.
It is about torture, but at the same time, it is about lying at a certain level.
It will be if it gets onto American television, so I don't think it has yet.
But interestingly, Pelosi's announcing that Congress won't do anything helps the chances of that case in Germany.
Where they have been reluctant in the past to take it up because they've argued that Congress would do it.
So, you know, there's a little silver lining there.
I mean, they'll have investigations.
They'll have investigations over nothing in Congress.
We're not going to have investigations about lying about WMDs, going to war, covering up 9-11, HR 6166.
But that's the really bad thing.
Most Democrats voted for HR 6166.
Which is disgusting.
It is absolutely disgraceful and did not help them in the election and I'm hopeful that they don't think it did.
But there are many, many Democrats openly talking now about serious investigations into the lies that sold us this war.
Well, I agree, but let me ask you this question.
What's going to happen in two years if the Democrats haven't had the investigation, haven't at least tried impeachment?
A lot of the political experts on both sides of the aisle are saying that this is a third force, a huge populist movement in America, and that they will go after the Democrats, too, if they don't do their job.
Well, the Democrats will lose the elections.
I personally will refuse to have my name associated with the word Democrat in any way, shape, or form from here until I die.
And the...
Most important result will be that we will have set up a system that says it's okay for future presidents to lie us into wars.
And torture us.
That's my point.
We have to fight this.
Because if we don't, they're going to set in stone secret arrest of citizens, torture, preemptive imperial wars.
I mean, it just goes on and on.
We've got to bring these criminals to justice.
A friend of mine, Dave Lindorf, made the point the other day in Philadelphia.
We had a huge event.
He said, I would be in for impeachment if it was the day before the 2008 election.
To get it in there.
Because we can't let this precedent stand.
You know, folks are saying that it's good that the Democrats won because it repudiates the war and torture and all the rest of this.
Well, exactly.
But that's not going to last in the world's eyes if somebody isn't punished.
In fact, it'll show them that we're basically a reprobate country.
Well, you know, that election is a start.
It's not a finish.
And we've got progressive left-wing activist groups now arguing, well, we won the election, now let's be positive and forward-looking and cooperative, and that will help us win the next election.
Yeah, I've had them criticizing me and others, just saying, let's work with Bush.
Oh, he's being nice.
You don't work with a dictator, and the public didn't ask anybody to.
The Republicans didn't win a single new seat.
The Democrats won overwhelmingly.
This is not a mandate for cooperation.
Oh yeah, I heard Nancy and the Republican spinmasters saying, this is the message they want bipartisanship, this is the message they want us to work together and fix things.
We want George Bush and his cronies to go to prison!
That's right.
That's right.
And that's the other potential benefit of real investigations, whether we get impeachment or not, is dragging out the facts that will be useful in criminal indictments.
And we need criminal indictments of Bush, Cheney, and more.
Let me ask you a question, David Swanson, whose website is davidswanson.org, and he's one of the biggest organizers in the alternative left or progressives in this country.
Let me ask you a question.
Do you think George Bush would let it go that far?
Or would he try to start a war with Iran?
Would he pull some other type of rabbit out of a hat to divert us and get us all to rally back around him?
If things started really getting dangerous for him?
Well, I wouldn't put anything past him, but they saw this election coming and they held off on starting the war with Iran, so it is possible that we can restrain them.
We'll see.
I certainly wouldn't put it past him, and I certainly don't put stealing the next election past them, although they failed pretty much across the board this time.
I've seen a lot of real-line conservatives, too, are also supporting impeachment.
Were you aware of that?
There are a great many conservatives, a great many Republicans, and former Republicans who won't call themselves Republicans anymore.
There are, of course, the libertarians in groups like the Cato Institute, and there are all sorts of real conservatives who are for impeaching this guy.
And there are hardcore neoconservative backers who sold us this war who've now turned against Bush.
Well, America won't get its soul back.
I mean, folks, we've gone from the most loved, the most hated in less than a decade.
We're not going to get our soul back unless people are brought to justice.
And by the way, I mean the defense contractors that wrote the policy that made the campaign contributions.
I mean the neocons.
We need a bunch of these people to go to prison.
And I think it's possible.
That's why they're going to fight so hard, though.
David, you've studied these people.
Why do you think Rumsfeld and John Yoo and Gonzalez put in memos they can torture children and stuff?
I mean, didn't they know that that was just throwing down the gauntlet, that even the Nazis didn't put stuff on paper?
That's right, and that's why they passed that Military Commissions Act not long before an election, knowing it would hurt them.
Because they wanted to retroactively legalize their crimes, which is done in that act.
They're scared.
But I'm asking you, because you study them, you go up there, you're all over the place, what is wrong with them to openly say it?
My point is, a smart criminal doesn't leave handbooks and ledgers around.
I mean, we have smoking gun evidence.
Why did they do something that Hitler didn't do?
An absolutely unfathomable amount of arrogance.
George Bush is, you know, he's an idiot, but primarily he's incredibly arrogant.
I agree.
This is a kid who went around blowing up frogs and turtles for fun, a mean little brat who's never had to civilize himself or be accountable to anything or apologize for anything in his entire life.
This is a frat boy.
I just can't believe they openly wrote memos saying they could crush children with pliers.
I mean, come on.
No one can defend that, but they still do.
It's incredibly offensive to suggest that you can do anything short of killing someone and it's okay and it doesn't count as torture.
Well, you know, then what's torture?
And if Bush wanted to get...
You know, facts out of these people about Valerie Plame or anything.
Why didn't he torture them?
You know, because it doesn't even work.
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On the other side, we'll take two final calls, too.
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And I hope that the conscience of the Democratic Party, the American people, will take action and do something about this.
But this is just too much that they wouldn't even give lip service.
I think it was a mistake, too.
You know, Pelosi would have given lip service.
This kind of might have dissipated a bit.
But I think by her throwing down the gauntlet and saying no investigation, I think she's got a tiger by the tail now.
What do you say, David?
Well, she's saying no impeachment.
She's not saying no investigations.
And that's where she doesn't make any sense.
Because investigations will get to impeachment, especially...
If we demand it.
Unless they're designed to be whitewashes.
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Lowly but surely, we'll get there by spring.
Well, I hope you're right.
Let's be clear on this.
If we weren't here fighting these criminals, if we weren't here saying no to the war, no to Lebanon, no to all of it, they would already be a lot further down the road in their agenda.
And I think we're making history here.
I mean, they may be able to buy off the Congress and control them, but it does show the people are taking action.
I'm with you.
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How's it going?
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It's going pretty good.
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But what I see is happening is quite incredible.
We have all these COINTELPRO groups who are just falling apart and scattering to the wind.
It's not working anymore.
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And you can always see when people are COINTELPRO.
We already knew some were.
But then you see them falling apart when their funding ends.
And, yeah, I've seen five or six known COINTELPRO group websites disbanding in the last week.
Yeah, exactly.
But it's kind of upsetting because they send us viewers.
So, in a weird way, it actually hurts us.
Call me back tomorrow, Thomas.
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I'm sorry.
Call me back earlier tomorrow.
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