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Air Date: June 13, 2005
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Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, it is Monday!
The 13th day of June 2005.
We'll be live for the next three hours.
Wide open phones and several important guests coming on as well.
Second U.S.
case of mad cow possible.
It's probably been about 50 times they've found cows that supposedly had mad cow or Creutzfeldt-Jacobs.
That had the prions, the prions, whatever you want to call them, in their brains, in their bloodstream.
And every time the FDA swoops in and tells everybody that everything's fine.
We'll see if that happens this time.
That's out of USA Today.
Today we'll cover that after the break.
G8 wants tax on airline tickets to help the world poor.
They're trying a bunch of other global taxes right now.
Global money transfer tax, global oil tax at the wellhead.
That's what the Bilderberg Group literally threw fits over this year.
They haven't gotten their world tax yet.
They intended to have one by 2000.
Times of London, disruptive toddlers to be treated as potential criminals, says report.
If you throw a tension tantrum and the camera picks it up,
You'll be put into the criminal database and tracked and traced.
Yes, the control grid.
The police last Thursday shot a young Hispanic man in the back, and witnesses and others were saying that they just simply walked up to him and opened fire on his back.
Where's the squad car video?
Where is that?
He supposedly resisted you.
I'll never forget the time that I had a weight belt in my front seat and the cop thought it was a gun.
Pulled the gun out, stuck it to my head, shaking, freaking out.
And if he'd have blown my head off, folks, it would have been I resisted.
I didn't resist.
I got out of the car.
He saw it was a weight belt.
He was a nice cop, though living in fear.
Just seized by fear and weakness.
And he said, go ahead and go.
Don't speed.
I was speeding, folks.
But the point is, is if he'd have blown my head off, good chances of, I would say 100%, that Mr. Jones resisted.
Mr. Jones pulled this little derringer.
Yes, yes.
By the way, right here in Austin, in Fort Worth, in Midland, we've caught police killing their own officers, or killing innocent civilians, as they call us.
By the way, you're civilians too.
And planting guns, and then good cops blow the whistle and expose them.
So we've seen this before, just in my neck of the woods.
All right, that is coming up.
Where's the videotape?
Hmm, you haven't edited it yet properly?
I mean, there's always telltale signs here.
Believe me, folks, if that video showed him struggling, like the cops are saying, they would have already released it.
Unless they're building it up for some type of, you know, big theatrical, see, we're right.
I mean, I'm not saying that the police aren't sometimes right.
But when you shoot somebody in the back and they're unarmed, it doesn't look good.
Also, we will get into... It's official, we already reported this years ago, but now British government admits it.
British Secret Service did murder SS Chief Heinrich Himmler.
He didn't take cyanide.
But the important news item is why did they do this?
More on the EU beginning to break up, having some major problems.
Ministers told of need for Gulf War excuse.
There's just so much news.
Plus we got the Patriot Act explosion.
Stay with us.
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Coming up, we've got an audio clip of the video, the outrage after GOP cuts off microphones at Patriot Act hearing last Friday.
A furor erupted after Republican Judiciary Chairman James F. Sensenbrenner shut off the microphones during a hearing on the Patriot Act Friday accusing Democrats of raising issues unrelated to the act, such as treatment of detainees at Guantanamo Bay.
citizens have been taken there under the Patriot Act.
Well, U.S.
I mean, what are they talking about?
And again, the left is attacking this according to partisanship, which is the wrong way to go about this.
Ministers were told of need for Gulf War excuse.
This out of the London Times.
Ministers were warned in July of 2002, months before going to war, that Britain was committed to taking part in an American invasion of Iraq and that they had no choice but to find a way of making it legal.
The warning, in a leaked cabinet report,
The briefing paper for participants at a meeting of Blair's Inner Circle of July 23, 2002 said that since regime change was illegal, it was necessary to create the conditions which would make it legal.
This was required because even if ministers decided Britain should not take part in an invasion, the American military would be using British bases.
This would automatically make Britain complicit in any illegal U.S.
And so they go on with the Downing Street memo to say that they're going to manufacture evidence, which they did.
Here's another one.
Iraq war planned two years before 9-11.
Now, everybody's running around acting like this is a news story.
Because we have witnesses inside the Bush White House and journalists and others saying they heard Bush talk about it to them personally.
And the media is focusing in on this and they'll say, oh, that's their opinion.
Shower grapes, just like Richard Clark or just like Treasury Secretary O'Neill, John O'Neill.
Forget all of this!
We have the PNAC documents written by Dick Cheney in September of 2000, two and a half, three years before the war, saying Saddam isn't a threat, but he is a pretext to get the oil and to use Iraq as a military launch base.
I mean, is Dick Cheney sour grapes against the Bush administration?
But here's the newest.
I mean, it's a string of witnesses all saying the same thing.
I was in the office.
I saw the battle plans.
According to author and journalist Mickey Hersquitz, the presidential candidate George W. Bush was already talking privately about the political benefits of attacking Iraq two years before September 11th occurred.
So this time, it's even before he got into office.
He was thinking about invading Iraq in 1999, said President Bush's former ghost writer.
So this time, it's Bush's ghost writer.
A guy who spent months with Bush.
It was on his mind, he said to me, one of the keys to being seen as a great leader is to be seen as a commander-in-chief.
Bush has said, I'm a war president.
I'm a wartime president.
I mean, how psychopathic is that?
It was on his mind, he said to me.
By the way, Hitler said he was a war leader.
So did Stalin.
It was on his mind, he said to me, one of the keys to being seen as a great leader is to be seen as a commander-in-chief.
And he said, my father had all this political capital built up when he drove the Iraqis out of Kuwait and he wasted it.
Wasted it.
If I have a chance to invade...
If I have that much capital, I'm not going to waste it.
I'm going to get everything passed that I want to get passed, and I'm going to have a successful presidency.
So again, you got a war, you're in a war, the government does what you say, the three branches meld into one, and you can set up a dictatorship.
Herskowitz said that Bush expressed frustration at a lifetime as an underachiever in the shadow of an accomplished father.
In aggressive military action, he saw the opportunity to emerge from his father's shadow the moment Erskiewicz said, came in the wake of September 11th attacks.
Suddenly, he's a 9-11.
Suddenly after 9-11, he's at 91% in the polls, and he's barely crawled out of the bunker.
And then it goes into Bush.
Now this is Bush telling him in 99 all of this.
This is his biographer.
Bush is telling him this.
There's recordings of this.
And if this isn't some weird Karl Rove manipulation that I haven't seen the final product of, I predict this guy's going to die of a heart attack in the next two months.
Or die in a car wreck or his plane's going to blow up.
The FBI will be there as the pieces fall out of the sky telling local police it was all an accident.
Very, very serious.
Here's another one.
lacked full post-war Iraq plan.
A briefing paper prepared for British Prime Minister Tony Blair and his top advisors eight months before the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq concluded that the U.S.
military was not prepared adequately for what the British memo predicted would be a protracted and costly post-war occupation of that country.
The eight-page memo written in advance of
July 23, 2002, Downing Street meeting in Iraq provides new insights into how senior British officials saw a Bush administration decision to go to war as inevitable and realized more clearly than their American counterparts the potential for the post-invasion instability that continues to plague Iraq.
So let's go over the spin here.
The spin here is that Bush didn't know because he's an idiot.
And the Bush administration didn't know, but those smart Brits, they did.
In the Downing Street memo, they admit the U.S.
knew they'd fail.
Fail in the publicly stated agenda of giving Iraq democracy and freedom and pulling out in one year.
The Secretary of the Army, who was a big Enron scammer, crook for the Bushes, they loved Secretary White.
They said, you're out of there when he said 450,000 troops to win this thing.
Their top generals, Quinton Droves, other former senior generals, the guy that ran the air war, the guy that the Air Force general, the head of the Air Force, who ran the air war in the first Gulf War, said this is going to be a complete disaster.
Brent Scrocoft told them, his daddy's top advisor, they all told him, they all knew,
And then Rumsfeld puts out memo P2OG saying that's the plan.
It's going to blow up.
It's going to widen the conflict.
And then we're going to be stuck there for 10 years and to build these giant bases and now a 6,000 person, well, it's going to be 3,000 person, gigantic embassy that's not an embassy at all, but the real government.
I mean, some gigantic thing in the green zone.
I mean, they planned this day one, folks.
You look at the Gulf War II and you think it's a failure.
No, it's a wonderful success.
You look at the drug war and you think it's a failure.
No, it's a wonderful success.
You look at the war against illiteracy and you think it's a failure.
No, it's a huge success.
You look at the border war.
Control the borders.
You think it's a failure?
It's a screaming, raving, ranting, 110% flying colors success.
13 gun salutes success.
You think that 70% illegitimacy in many cities in this country, 90 plus percent in some ethnic groups, is a failure?
It's a wonderful success!
You think cancer doubling...
Every 10 years, the rate of cancer is a horrible failure?
It's a wonderful success!
You think genetically engineered crops taking over almost every other major food crop and infecting and causing all sorts of medical problems and endangering the biosphere is a failure?
It's a wonderful success!
And see, because you see it as a failure, oh, we're not quitters, we'll just make the drug war bigger!
We'll just make the war on illiteracy bigger.
We'll just make the war on Iraq bigger.
You think they want to go in there and put a free country in and pull out and let them sell their own oil and have freedom?
No, they want all those groups at each other's throats.
They want that place imploding into absolute bedlam.
That's the plan.
Managed by these technological spires, these command bunkers around the country.
Folks, I read a 1983 Israeli planning document for the Middle East, and it said by 2000, we'll have the Americans in Iraq, running Iraq, and we want squalor.
We want everyone at each other's throats.
We don't want people getting together.
Brzezinski, the founder of the Trilateral Commission, wrote a best-selling book saying this.
How they want to go into countries and balkanize them and destroy them.
And have them being smoking wreckage heaps with people endlessly killing each other.
When the top generals and strategists told the globalists that Iraq will go into civil war, it's always been civil war if you do this, they said, of course, that's exactly what we want!
Hundreds of billions in weapons sales every year.
Four trillion in oil.
And an excuse to be there for ten years for the next phase to go into Iran and Syria.
The bigger the drug war gets, the more heroin and cocaine flood our streets, the more young people are in these prisons.
Predominantly owned by major drug cartels.
I mean, you track back who owns the major private prisons, you can directly link them to the drug cartels.
They've got it coming and going.
They ship it in.
They send the cops in against their competition.
When your dumb kid uses it, they put them in a prison.
Making widgets for 20 cents an hour.
Same thing with illiteracy.
I've got the official Department of Education plan.
Dumb your kids down.
You wonder why they're getting so stupid.
We'll be right back.
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Just in case I didn't make myself clear...
The government, the private interests that own and control it, are lying to you.
You know they've been caught thousands of times lying, but even though you know they're corrupt, you just don't want to think that they would actually hurt the country or want to hurt you.
Oh, really?
Under several different legal doctrines that they got rammed through in the 1950s, the government has supposedly given itself immunity.
You know, they didn't have that until...
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It's like U.S.
Code Title 50, Chapter 32, Subsection 1520A, Paragraph B. It says the government can nerve gas you, use chemical, biological weapons on you for any reason.
You're worried about the Patriot Act, too, and you're worried about Homeland Security.
Folks, they've put all this stuff on the books before.
Now they're just building the infrastructure to do it.
Oh, you don't believe me out there listening.
Let's say you're a cop driving along.
Okay, cop.
Just write this out on your little notepad.
Code Title 50.
Can you do that?
Code Title 50.
Here, let me say it slower.
Code Title 50, Chapter 32, Subsection 1520A.
Again, U.S.
Code Title 50, Chapter 32, Subsection 1520A, Paragraph B.
Just go in there and read U.S.
Code Title 50, Chapter 32, Subsection 1520A.
Just read that whole section, because it says, oh, we're not allowed to do this unless covertly authorized, and then we have no liability.
Just stop being naive.
A lot of people can't even believe the government would do wrong.
They're infallible.
They don't trust their neighbor, though, to give them the code to their alarm and their front door key when they go out of town.
But they trust their government.
People they don't even know with unlimited power and unlimited funds and all these secret labyrinthine corporations and government institutions who've been exercising power for hundreds of years, unabated, unchallenged.
Power corrupts absolutely, folks.
Oh no, we just trust them.
So you look at the drug war and you think, man, it's failing.
Better take more of our rights away.
No, the drug war is doing a great job, turning America into a police state, bringing in more drugs, making it fashionable and underground to use drugs, and your idiot young people use it.
And it destroys lives.
And in case you won't use the illegal drugs, we're going to force you to take our government-pushed private big pharma drugs.
So it's the same thing across the board with these wars, with the war on drugs, the war on poverty, the war on terror.
This is simply a new business.
And it's a predatory business.
So a lot of you are going to have childhoods end.
A lot of you are going to give up that foolish, delusional...
Childish view that everything's honky-dory and the people in authority wouldn't hurt you and they love you and you want to believe that they're good and they're smarter than you and they know best and they wouldn't hurt a fly.
When folks, it's not just that they're fallible.
It's not just that they're corrupt.
They're sadistic.
They're the most corrupt.
They're the most evil, the most cunning, the most deceptive.
That's why they're in those positions of power.
And they wouldn't give two cents for you and your family.
You mean absolutely nothing to them.
You are chattel.
You are slaves.
So stop being naive.
So now ministers were told ahead of Gulf War to manufacture an excuse official government documents in England.
Our own CIA was ordered to create fake documents.
Another one here.
Iraq war planned two years before 9-11.
Bush's own biographer.
lacked full post-war Iraq plan.
This is spin.
They had a plan.
They followed the plan.
The only danger is it may implode even worse than they planned into ethnic and religious strife.
Different groups of Muslims fighting with each other to where they can't even keep control of this tiger by the tail.
We'll be right back with some gas.
Stay with us.
We're on the march.
The empire's on the run.
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Thanks to the renegades.
Patriot Act not catching terrorists.
We'll get into that.
diplomat survives Iraq car bombing.
Republican senators suggest closing Gitmo, but Dick Cheney says no.
We're going to keep that little place of death and torture open, that little gulag, one of the archipelago of islands they've built all over the world, just hundreds of these camps, 32 in Iraq alone.
More security guards firing on peaceful protesters at Tiananmen Square on a weekly basis, and our government endorses it.
Patriot Act angers some on the right as well as the left.
And more and more job seekers in America being fingerprinted, and Congress ready to resurrect the draft.
They're now being very official about it.
We have some internal information about the draft boards.
That's coming up as well.
Plus, Hillary's angry about a new book alleging that Bill Clinton raped her.
Well, I mean, I don't know if this is true, and I really don't care.
I'm sick of the Clintons.
They're just puppets, again, who are surrogate members of the Bush family.
They deal narcotics together out of Meno, Arkansas.
That's just a fact.
I've interviewed the people there unloading the cocaine.
But if the shoe fits, wear it.
I mean, Bill Clinton is not challenged that he likes to rape women.
Bush and his cabinet like men, which is a sin, folks.
But I think it's worse to rape.
And so Clinton, he likes to rape women.
I don't know.
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We're going to be going over all of this news after the guest joins us.
Another horrible police shooting.
And again, I've been pulled over.
I had a cop pull a gun out and put it to my head because a weight belt in the front seat looked like a gun.
He didn't blow my head off, but if he would have blown my head off, I've got a sneaking suspicion that it would have been Alex resisted.
But this horrible, horrible, horrible case...
Happened last Thursday, and they have not released the squad car video.
Now, if in truth Daniel Rocha would have resisted police, you would have seen this on TV within an hour of him gunning him down.
But every time they shoot you because they're scared to death, the police are of us,
We're good to go.
And it's disgusting.
So joining us is spokesperson Erica Gonzalez for East Austin Activist Group, and we'll give you their website as well.
Erica, thank you for coming on with us.
Thank you for having me.
Now, you guys, I've read your press release.
You're kind of going with the angle that this is oppression of Hispanics.
And I'm not saying that...
Maybe poor groups on average get abused a little more than in some fancy, smancy neighborhood.
But at the same time, I mean, I know white people who've been shot in the back by the police.
Any comments on that?
Well, we don't like people who are racially discriminatory against youth, youth of color especially, because... Oh, no, I do agree that youth get discriminated against, but go ahead.
Yeah, youth of color especially, because Tania Drocha did not have a criminal record
Well, he had a criminal record.
He had never been pulled over for any type of physical abuse or anything.
And this was not a non-violent crime.
Well, he did have a warrant out for parking tickets or something.
But, I mean, the question is, is that a reason to die?
No, it definitely is not.
Nobody should die for no reason at all.
The police officer stopped him and had really no reason to pull them over.
And she...
Well, the Austin and Travis County SWAT teams have blown kids in half over the last decade, shot people asleep in bed, shot their own officers, and they frame other people.
They caught the Midland police a few years ago shooting each other.
Then they tried to frame an innocent unarmed man, but luckily a good cop blew the whistle.
I mean, this is scary.
Yeah, this is scary, especially...
There was no pursuit in this incident.
He was a passenger, and there were no drugs found on him.
It wasn't even his car.
So we believe that because he was an unarmed youth, he did not deserve to die in the manner that he did.
Well, there was a case two years ago in Houston, and this is just where I interviewed the family.
And they went to the wrong apartment, told the guy to get down on his face, it was the apartment across the hall, and shot him 14 times in the back.
Nobody got in trouble!
I mean, folks, I almost had my head blown off by one of these guys because he thought a white belt was a gun.
And if he'd have blown my head off, guaranteed nothing would have happened to him.
Okay, well, tell us what happened with Mr. Rocha.
Well, like I said, he was unarmed.
He was a passenger of a car.
And for some reason, I don't think the police reports have been out yet, the car was stopped.
We believe that it's racial profiling.
When the car was stopped, I think the driver ran away and Daniel Georgia was caught.
Again, he was unarmed.
He did try to run, but Julie Schroeder was the police officer that was trying to hold him down.
There was another male cop that was there at the scene.
Julie Schroeder, from what witnesses say, it looked like
Now, again, that's what the witnesses are saying.
Putting somebody in handcuffs, struggle a little bit, you die.
The point here is, if their story's true, why haven't they released this video?
Maybe they're trying to cover up for something that really happened.
That's what I believe.
Well, I talked to police that were involved in a Travis County SWAT team investigation, and they shot their own officer going into this trailer.
And then just simply, well, oh, the guy inside, he did it.
Now, again, I'm not against the Travis County SWAT team.
It's been nice to have the commander walk over when I'm at Luby's and sit down and start talking to him.
No, but, I mean, let's go back and get into all this.
So what happened next?
She shoots him in the back.
I guess what happened next was that they tried to revive, they tried to do CPR on him.
After they had, you know, after this woman had shot him, she tried to rescue him, but it was too late.
He died at 11 p.m., I guess, minutes after she had shot him.
And by the way, she may think she's getting away with this, but you reap what you sow.
Vengeance is God's.
Yeah, we want to see Julie Schroeder tried for this murder in criminal and civil court.
There needs to be justice for this.
But regardless, if she's guilty of this, she's not going to escape justice.
She never did.
Well, I think that the civil trial will see to that justice, and I think if the community pulls together, Julia Schroeder will be...
...tried for this murder, and the family deserved this trial.
By the way, we're human beings.
You know, when a cop gets killed, everybody runs around screaming, pulling their hair out, crying, a god has been killed.
And I'm against it when police get killed.
They're just as valuable as Mr. Rocha.
Just as valuable, not one cent more valuable than any other human life.
And I've seen the cavalier attitude of cops...
I think, yeah, the police department, the Austin Police Department, really needs to go through monthly recaps about not using deadly force.
Well, how many people have they shot in the back?
I mean, it seems every few months we hear about this.
Yeah, and I just think it needs to stop.
We need to stop, especially when victims don't have any weapons.
I mean, there's no need to stop.
To use deadly force when there are no weapons involved and especially when they're not trying to resist the arrest.
Well, I've seen the cases around the country when a cop's daughter or son does something and gets blown away and they scream, they cry, and nobody helps them.
And an 18-year-old person can't possibly have a long criminal history like they say Daniel Rocha had.
I mean, his life was just beginning.
He was 18 years old.
Well, regardless, I don't want people pulling guns and shooting people in the back.
It happens too much.
It was like that retarded kid, what, a year ago?
He was a retarded black man, and he was mumbling and had a little stick.
It showed on the news, like a foot-long little stick he picked up by a tree, and he was running from the police, so they shot him in the back.
I mean, I'm tired of it.
I'm tired of them shooting people in the back.
Punch a punch!
I know, and then Austin police, I mean, it's been known that they're twice as likely to use force against blacks and Hispanics than whites.
So, I mean, there needs to be some type of cultural awareness or something.
You know, police have used force on minorities more often than whites.
It is very obvious.
And there's racial discrimination within the police department.
Well, I think a big part of that is socioeconomic.
I mean, if you look at the numbers in poor white areas, you have just as many shootings.
I think it's that the police are afraid in these communities.
And I think a lot of that is unwarranted.
Some of it is.
I mean, I go over in East Austin a lot around 11th Street.
Even though they've supposedly cleaned it up.
And I've had people come up and bang on my window and try to sell me crack cocaine.
But the answer is to clean that up, not to go around shooting people in the back.
Yeah, there's no need to use that.
I mean, the police, the incident that just happened, she could have called for backup.
You know, she could have used her baton.
She could have even used her taser.
Now, all they're saying is that the guy driving ran, and then he was running, and then she basically jumped on him?
And then her gun went off because she had the gun in her hand.
So, I mean, that's even what the police are saying, but they call that resisting.
The guy's running, and she jumps on him and shoots him in the back.
That's not resisting.
No, that's not resisting.
And in the past, folks, you weren't given a death sentence from running for the police.
Well, it's like the L.A.
case two weeks ago where they shoot 120-something times into all the buildings because the white suburban didn't stop quick enough and they shot him a couple times.
Turned out he wasn't even the guy they were looking for.
Did you hear about that?
No, I didn't, no.
Well, it scares me for my family because... I mean, so...
I looked at articles from Thursday, from Friday, from Saturday, from Sunday, from today.
The demonization of Daniel is really starting to intensify, and the media is trying to change the story now, but all they've got to do is release that videotape.
I think it's more than just a videotape.
I think that there needs to be something bigger that happens within the way that the police department handles things.
No, I agree with you, but my point is, is if they've done nothing wrong, come on, let's see the tape.
I mean, it's going to look real bad.
The guy drives around in the car, you jump on him and shoot him in the back.
Well, I guess people will stop running, though.
If they know that, I mean, you know, plus the police claim that they have this right of kings, this immunity.
You do not have immunity.
So how is this affecting the community?
Well, it's affecting the community in many ways because, first of all, there's a loss.
There's a loss of the youth.
The family, I'm sure, is...
Zero tolerance is an excuse to pounce on people with maximum force.
Yeah, so you see them going to school, and it's the same thing.
I mean, you see the track to prison.
Schools are starting to look more and more like prisons, so you wonder why.
Oh, I agree.
ID cards, face scanning, being searched every day.
You say one thing wrong, they come arrest you.
Well, the government's own documents, Erica, admit it's about phasing our children into institutionalization.
Because private corporations then own those prisons and lobby our government to create an economic climate to put people into prisons.
Our new model in America is going to be prisons.
That's going to be our new country.
That's going to be what we do.
Did you know that?
Oh, it's so obvious.
I mean, if you don't know that, you know that just by seeing the way the schools are run.
I mean, we work with youth, and we hear the same stories again and again.
Well, here in Austin, they give them all the tattletale cards, the little $200 bonus cards if they turn family members in.
You ever seen that on that local ad they run?
About, it's your job to report on everybody.
Here's your card.
We're enrolling you.
Yeah, there's hardly any better alternative now for youth, I think, for youth of color to...
To express themselves, to let out some of the emotions that they have in school.
It's more like if you have a fight, you're automatically, you don't deal with what the real issue is.
Why did you have a fight?
No, it's more like we're going to kick you out for three days and put you back out into the streets with no other alternatives or programs for you.
Well, but again, listen, all these social workers and the system, the way the grid was created, Erica, it's designed to make society unravel.
It's designed to pack the prisons.
And I'm just sad that Daniel Rocha was shot in the back.
And again, I hope that you and others put the call out.
Hey, stop demonizing this young man.
Show us the videotape.
Believe me, if it had shown him really resisting, that video would have been on TV in one hour, Erica.
Yeah, and I will let you know if that video is out, and hopefully it will, because the community needs to see what really happened.
Yeah, let's see this guy lose his life.
Well... Let's see him like a fish out of water gasping for air, dying.
Because I want the police to know he was a human being.
I mean, they don't even see us as human beings.
Are you speechless?
Yeah, it's just a very emotional thing for me because, I mean, I am originally from Eagle Pass, and I see this everywhere that I go.
Every person that I talk to, even from a different city or state, it's terrible what is going on in our communities, and this needs to stop.
Hey, listen, I've heard hot shop cops, you know, at the gym and stuff, brag about how tough they are.
It's like a stud thing to have killed somebody with some of these guys.
But statistically, I'm not bashing women police officers.
The women police officers seem to be more afraid.
And did you know, statistically, women police seem to pull their guns and use them statistically more than men?
You might want to check into that.
Female cops.
Yeah, she's scared to death.
Oh, this man's going to get me.
Well, I can't really speak for every woman, and I don't want to turn this into a male-female issue.
But what if it is?
Are you afraid to go there?
No, I'm not afraid to go there, but I think the bottom line is that police in general need to go through training.
Well, I agree with you.
Stay there and give us your website when we get back.
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That Congressman Rangel.
Charles Rangel, who's introduced the bill for the National Draft.
On with us to talk about it.
Now, you know, congressmen are notoriously sketchy, but they always come on.
He might come on in ten minutes.
He might come on in an hour.
But he's scheduled in about 30 minutes.
We're talking to Erica Gonzalez with East Austin Activist Group.
Erica, is there a way for folks to get in contact with you or check out a website or any contact info?
Yes, we're located on Garden Street, but you can reach us through phone 472-9921, area code 512, or you can visit us on the web at www.poder-texas.org.
How do you spell that out slow for us?
Okay, so www.poder-texas.org.
Okay, and that phone number again?
Listen, I know that it's scary to see the cavalier killing of people in East Austin, and I know it does happen there more than anywhere else, but it happens to a 75-year-old retired insurance salesman when cops go to the wrong house.
It's scary.
It's dangerous.
And statistically, after automobile accidents, the biggest threat to police is their own officers.
So it's time for them to stop fearing us so much.
And to start seeing us as human beings, and my heart goes out to Mr. Roach's family, if you get a chance to talk to him, and we'll try to expose what happened to him, and as this develops, please stay in contact.
Okay, we sure will, and on behalf of FODED, we'd also like to send our sympathies for the family and for the rest of the communities, and we want to let them know that our prayers are with them, and that we are fighting the justice for youth of color and the criminalization of youth of color.
Well, I think it's the criminalization of everyone, but you're right.
You're the beta test, the target group.
Thanks for the call.
Thanks for joining us.
And this is how it works, folks.
First, the red light districts and the gambling and the drugs was only allowed up until the 50s in the minority neighborhoods.
It's like in The Godfather where, you know, the racist mob boss says...
You know, I want to keep the drugs in the colored areas.
They're animals anyways.
Let them lose their souls.
Remember that quote?
Well, that's really how it works.
And so, this is the happy hunting ground.
This is where they get to beta test everything.
But as Tony Brown has said on this broadcast, they're planning to bring it to all neighborhoods, all communities.
And it is happening.
So we've all got a band together against this.
Very scary to see how often this occurs.
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Already into hour number two.
Masses of news has come out.
Their own documents, their own memos, their own eyewitnesses.
Admitting the entire Iraq war was totally staged.
We knew this before the war.
But now it's out there for everybody to see.
Bush's approval rating, depending on what poll you look at, is 32 to 41 percent.
So be afraid, be very afraid of the globalists carrying out another terror attack to legitimize his agenda.
Now again, Bush is just a puppet.
But at the same time, he is a figurehead for their agenda, and so they use him as a benchmark of support.
And they do need our tacit approval of their global empire for the rulers to maintain this empire to be able to continue.
We've also got a bunch of news about the national draft.
Now the Democrats are coming out and saying, yeah...
We may need one.
We may need to help Bush.
We may need to get this through.
And they're serious about it, and they've set up the draft boards again.
I've talked to people that have went and volunteered for these draft boards.
They are told under national security to keep their mouths shut.
They're not supposed to tell you what they know.
But that is that a new draft is coming.
They've introduced the bills.
And after the next terror attack, they're going to have a draft in this country.
It's going to be a devastating attack.
You're going to be an evil traitor if you don't go along with it.
The question is, are the globalists secure enough in their position to go ahead with this program?
We'll be talking to Congressman Rangel, scheduled here in about 15-20 minutes, about this.
He's introduced a bill two years ago to do this and reintroduced it in this session of Congress.
Let's go ahead and talk to Robert in Denver, Colorado.
Robert, go ahead.
Hey, good morning, Alex.
Thanks for taking my call.
By now, you probably know that you're going to be on Thursday night, Coast to Coast.
Yeah, it's going to be you and Ray Griffin in an interesting format.
It'll be a debate-type format.
And the other side of the aisle will be Peter Lance and some guy named Jerome Corsi.
I've heard a Peter Lance heard him talk.
He's pretty sharp, but I know nothing about Corsi.
But it should be interesting, you and David debating against those two.
I can't wait to hear it.
Be sure and mention that and post something on your website.
Well, if I get fair, I mean, if I get equal time, I'm going to smash them.
Oh, I have no doubt.
I have no doubt.
Because I'll be focused for that broadcast.
You better believe it.
I mean, I've got to show my film this Thursday night, and then I'll go over and stay up until 5 in the morning doing the debate.
But we never stop fighting here, sir.
I hear you, I hear you.
You kind of stole my thunder.
I was going to mention about the Bush's approval rate, which is really in the toilet, and I also heard on the radio this morning locally that a Gallup poll was saying that either 59 or 69, I couldn't quite remember, I was half asleep, 59 of those, or 59% of those, or 69% of those polls said that they want Bush to pull out of Iraq, which I thought was really interesting.
Yeah, they had a poll a week ago that was like 56% a new poll showing even higher numbers.
You see, we have a very sheep-like population.
So once people see 50%, they all rush over to the other side, which I think is sad.
Yeah, that's true.
One last thing quickly.
I have also heard that, you know, Toyota's building a big plant near San Antonio.
Hopefully there's a big stink about a lot of illegal labor being used and the unions are getting upset about that.
Yeah, the Maquiladoras basically run right up to Austin now.
That's all it is, is a McKillidorus on this side of the border.
Wow, that's scary.
Okay, man, look forward to Thursday night.
Oh, yeah, thank you.
Yeah, it's scary when America's gotten so third world that the factory jobs start coming back because we've got the cheapest labor.
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Congressman Charles Rangel is scheduled in the next segment with us to talk about his bill to reintroduce conscription, better known as the National Draft.
Congress ready to resurrect the draft.
This is by Greg Szymanski.
needs more boots on the ground, says Democrat.
A House bill to reinstate the draft finally made its way to the Armed Services Committee, where a vote is expected only after President Bush decides whether he is for or against conscription.
After lowering their projections three times in the last two years, have failed miserably, with the Army upwards of 50%.
A White House spokesman said Bush has always firmly opposed the draft, but many insiders believe Bush will have to reassess the issue in light of the Army's failed recruiting efforts.
And they've been gearing up for the war in Iraq...
We're good to go.
And down in the South Texas Valley, one of the poorest areas in the country, literally, folks, I was just down there a few weeks ago, there are billboards on almost every corner for the four branches.
I mean, it is just unbelievable.
And 25-30%, depending on what federal report I've seen, it's 25-30%, different federal numbers,
Of the troops in Iraq weren't even citizens to begin with.
They were illegal aliens.
So, if they're able, I mean, they'll have 100% illegal alien military, I guess, or 95% with the officers being American, I guess.
And we truly will be an empire.
So that's another big part of this illegal immigration.
Because they make good soldiers.
Really good soldiers.
Peasants always do.
I mean, look at Audie Murphy, the little peasant from the farm.
But Americans aren't farmers anymore.
We're spoiled, rotten, video game-playing brats who aren't about to lay our lives down for the empire, no matter how high-grade the propaganda is.
So the globalist own dumbing down of the public is working for them at certain levels, but not at others.
They're having to now go get conscripts
And of course, Guatemalan, and I mentioned Panamanian.
We are really turning into a third world cesspit.
But at least 25% of our new military, that is the globalist new military, is an illegal alien cadre.
You gotta love it, folks.
I'm sorry, it just really gets out of control sometimes.
So a White House spokesman said Bush has always firmly opposed the draft, but many insiders believe Bush will have to reassess the issue in light of the Army's failed recruiting efforts.
Emily Millen, a spokesman for Representative Charles Rangel, who sponsored the controversial draft bill, said this is the type of bill no one likes to touch without a consensus of all branches of government.
The draft is especially unpopular now because the mounting death toll in Iraq said...
His representative.
Rangel is, of course, opposed to the war, but believes if we're going to have to fight it, then the military should have enough soldiers to do the job properly.
Perfect position.
Then he claims that I fought, you know, in Korea, which he did.
Highly decorated.
We need to make these rich kids go.
And women, too!
No exceptions!
No exceptions for college or babies or anything!
They need to go!
We'll have him on in just a minute.
I hope he stays on a while, because I've got some serious questions for Mr. Rangel.
And then now we have Biden and other Democrats going, we're going to need one!
I have the Washington Post today with them saying it.
We're going to need it, and it's good, the war is good!
So see, they've already positioned themselves where the Democratic leaders are for it.
Since the war has become less popular with the American people, the death toll of the U.S.
soldiers in Iraq has risen to 1,680.
The Army is now responding and reporting recruiting levels down as much as 50%.
And so it goes on and on.
At best, Rangel's bill plays into Bush's hands, said Bill Galvin, head of the anti-war group called the Center for Conscience and War.
At worst, it is a stealth measure intended to supply progressive political cover for the pro-draft Democrats.
And that's exactly what it is.
I couldn't say it any better.
No, that's not why I'm doing it!
I'm doing it because it needs to be fair!
Folks, the silver spooners...
We'll never go to war.
If they do, they'll be strutting around in ridiculous monkey suits with tons of salad dressing on them, hundreds of medals out on aircraft carriers commanding forces.
It'll be your children going into the meat grinders of fighting the Persians and fighting the Syrians.
Let Israel go!
Let all these other people who want to go.
Let Bush send his degenerate daughters.
Don't send our families, by the way.
They've been admitted in the Houston Chronicle.
They're already drafting doctors.
They're already drafting coroners.
They're already drafting embalmers.
That is, people who served 20 years ago, literally.
I'm sorry, that's not true.
35 years ago, there's one 66-year-old guy from Alabama got drafted.
And they didn't read the fine print when they...
You know, volunteered for Vietnam or Korea.
Oh, yeah, there's even some of those.
But they don't have to leave the country.
They're in advisory capacity here in the U.S.
looking at the data.
But they are sending 60-plus-year-old people to Iraq.
And they go, oh, you didn't read the contract.
Now we can recall you any time.
But some of the draft bills, there's been about, I don't know, eight different versions introduced.
Some are 18 to 49.
They could draft Alex Jones!
And I'd be the exact type of person.
They'd come arrest, and Mr. Jones is a coward.
It'd be on the local news.
Yeah, yeah, he's refusing to go, so he's in jail.
Who knows?
Maybe I'd just go.
But then I'd be court-martialed because I wouldn't let him give me an experimental shot.
I'd say, that's an experimental injection.
That's illegal.
That's a felony.
A federal judge has already said so.
Shut up, Jones!
Hold him down!
We're going to send you to DU cleanup, boy!
Let you clean up some wrecked vehicles.
How's that sound?
You like the sound of it?
Well, that's what you're going to be doing.
No, I think at that point I may just hop a train to New Zealand.
That's a joke, folks.
There are no trains to New Zealand.
I don't think I'll ever evacuate.
I may evacuate my family, though.
Stuff gets much worse in the next couple of years.
I mean, if Bush takes to nuking cities, we've got a few months to get out, I'll probably evacuate my family.
Really want to know.
The evacuation has already been prepared, by the way.
There's nothing my wife and small children can do, really.
I will evacuate them and stay here and go down with the ship, but...
These arrogant bastards have got it all figured out, folks.
Carry out a government terror attack, blaming on their political enemies, and then just go, you people who were against the Patriot Act, you caused this to happen.
Now 300,000 are dead.
The nuke went off.
You're the ones that criticized it.
You didn't give us enough troops to take over Iraq, and we now know the nuke came from Iraq.
We now know Saddam had planted it.
Here's the document.
Arrest everyone that disagrees with us!
I've heard Michael Savage on the air.
You just wait.
You just wait till the bigger attack comes.
And then you're all getting arrested.
Everyone is going to a forced labor camp.
You just wait.
If you knew what I knew.
And he starts laughing about it.
Yeah, we knew you were a big, fat, dirty, oily, hippie, beatnik, piece of garbage.
You could deep fry...
Broad chicken just by squeezing what's in his hair, folks.
All of them.
All the dirty beatniks of the 60s and the Fourth International before it.
All dirty Trotskyites.
All dirty oil bags.
All gun-grabbing scum who couldn't take this country over until they posed as conservatives.
And you bought it hook, line, and sinker.
And now they're going to butcher this country.
They're going to bust the guts of this country wide open.
And you're going to love them for it.
You're going to thank them for it when you turn your guns in.
Or maybe you'll get one of the little fancy uniforms and armband.
You can keep your guns because you're a bootlicker.
And then they'll take your pension fund, but you don't want to complain because at least you've got the armband and we've all got to sacrifice.
And you'll give your children to them to be cannon fodder based on lies.
All right, I'm in rare form today.
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He'll be with us about 15 minutes unless one of his bells goes off, meaning he has to run back in and vote.
Never had him on before.
Honored to have him.
He's a highly decorated Korean War veteran.
Himself, Bronze Star, Purple Heart.
And I've seen him on television saying, you know, if we're going to have this war, then make all the rich kids go.
But we all know the silver spooners will be out on aircraft carriers commanding everyone while our children get their guts blown out on a lie.
And he's introduced this bill again.
I think this is the third time he's introduced it.
And now we have another article here.
Military draft back on U.S.
agenda of the Associated Press.
Other articles, the United States would have to face a painful dilemma.
Well, if we have a foreign policy, which the President truly believes, that we have a mandate to bring freedom and liberty throughout the Middle East and the North Korea...
I'm glad to be with you.
Then we have to be prepared to fight for it.
And it just seems to me that this fight should not be just relegated to paying $10,000, $20,000, and $30,000 bonuses to kids that are coming from the poorer communities to rural areas and inner city.
It seems to me that we shouldn't have our National Guard and our Reservists, most all of whom have served the country...
Be held hostage in a backdoor draft.
First of all, if the president really thinks that the Americans believe in this as our foreign policy, why is it that we never hear him ask Americans to make sacrifices and to volunteer and to be placed in harm's way unless he truly believes that this sacrifice should be just relegated to those who can't help themselves
Sir, I would support your bill if it said that both of Bush's snot-nosed daughters had to wear those gowns made by Michael Dell's wife and to send them into combat wearing those gowns.
Can we do that?
Well, I think your point is that if the President and the Congress and the Pentagon and the CEOs around this country who support the war really thought that their kids
It was possible that they would be involved in making the sacrifice.
There is no question in my mind that we would shift this foreign policy.
And we're not maintaining our volunteer levels.
We're not maintaining retention levels in the military.
Is your National Service Act, is it the same version as I read a year ago?
It is, except Rumsfeld said a year ago that two years wasn't enough to train anybody to be effective.
But because they can't get people to join for three years, they've already reduced the recruitment age to 15 months.
So I've changed it just to that extent, which means that everyone between 18 and 26 are eligible.
Not only for the military, but if they're not selected for the military, then for some other two-year national public service.
And there are no exemptions, male or female.
Well, you've been in combat.
I mean, for those that don't know what it's like, you would feel good about being part of, and you know it's going to be the poor children of America that are going to be drafted, despite the gimmick of, oh, it'll make the rich kids go.
I mean, you want to put them in harm's way for a lie?
I really...
I want you to know that unlike the previous draft that provided for all of these exemptions, my bill means that everyone does something.
And in answer to your question, would I want them in harm's way, let me make it clear.
We would not have this foreign policy if these people thought that their kids were going to be involved.
I can't for the life of me see how anyone can be for this war.
And not be for the draft.
Well, I want to get to what Charles Rangel really wants here.
Is this, as some are saying, a covert action for the Democratic leadership that is pro-draft?
That's in some of the press reports.
Or are you really throwing down the gauntlet and trying to get out ahead of other bills that Bush has had other Republicans introduce that are the old draft drafts?
With the exemptions that I think are wrong, are you trying to get out ahead of it to have your bill be the prominent bill so a draft does get shot down?
No, the Republican bills don't have any provisions for military service.
They just have national public service.
But that's the same thing.
Mine would include everything.
Okay, tell us why you're really doing this.
Okay, when, before the president had made the decision that he was going to have a preemptive strike against Iraq,
I have thought by introducing my bill that would cause Americans to say, if we're going to go to war and our kids are going to be involved in it, or our grandkids are going to be involved in it, we pretty much ought to know that we are being threatened.
And, of course, the President disregarded letting us know the facts.
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Charles Rangel was elected with 94% of the vote in the last election.
One of the most popular members of Congress, in his district especially.
And again, a highly decorated veteran in his own right.
And I don't like, you know, period, having a bill introduced for national conscription of our little girls, our little boys.
This is for women as well.
But he says, as you just heard him say, that he's doing this to...
Throw down the gauntlet and say, come on, send your daughters, Bush, send your little spoiled brats, those are my words, not his, go ahead and send them to Iraq.
Let's send the Enron chiefs' children over there.
But I guarantee you, folks, they'll use this bill and then selectively enforce it.
That's why it's dangerous.
But Congressman Rangel, anything else you'd like to say on the draft itself before I throw out three final questions?
We can't... First of all, you don't have a draft unless the people believe in the war.
In other words, if they... If we were to have a draft, the people would know that the president would shift his responsibility.
The direction we're going, where we pay people to volunteer, it would not surprise... And we do have a lot of non-citizens, especially in my district, where I have a large number of Dominicans, and we've got young people who are not citizens, and they know that...
They can improve their quality of life.
So we've got nun citizens, poor people fighting the war, and I say a draft brings some equality to it or causes us to shift our foreign policy.
Because I don't see how you can support the war and think that all we can do is just hold these kids' coats and let them do all of the fighting.
Were you drafted into Korea?
No, I volunteered.
My brother volunteered before World War II because he couldn't get a job.
I saw when he got out of the Army how much my parents were dependent on the Czech, and so in 1948,
I joined the Army.
I had no idea that I would be surrounded by Chinese in 1950 being wounded.
But, you know, I thank God, even though 90% of the casualties we suffered in the 2nd Infantry Division.
And I might add, the division went over from Fort Lewis, Washington in 1950, and guess what?
It's still there.
But I got the GI Bill.
I went back to school.
You know, 90% casualties, the only other place we've seen those numbers were in German U-boat men, sailors.
No, listen.
If the story was ever told, how MacArthur and Truman, while they're fighting each other over whether or not to go to China, the entire Eighth Army, which included my division, which included the Marines, was surrounded by tens of thousands of Chinese men
I mean, how that could happen.
I thought it was two million.
Well, it was two million altogether, but we were surrounded in a mountain pass.
We were sitting on the Yellow River, waiting to go home.
And it was the most massive defeat we've ever had.
And, you know, in Vietnam, it wasn't the president that caused that war to stop.
It was the people, and that's why Johnson quit.
And this draft idea is to get people to know
But, you know, we have tens of thousands, 100,000 Iraqis have been killed over there.
And these people, for the most part, just got caught in the battle fire between the so-called terrorists and then the American troops.
And, you know, how do you expect that you can send a trained military person into a country, he has no idea what the enemy looks like, what flag he wears, what uniform he wears, where he's going to be,
And they are on the brink of a civil war, and we've lost 1,600 American lives.
12,000 kids are maimed, and hundreds of marriages completely destroyed.
As middle-aged men and women, I have grandparents that are in the National Guard that just came back from Iraq.
No, I know.
It's immoral.
It's immoral.
And, Congressman, my three questions here.
Number one, where do you see the Iraq War going when the armies, all their top experts said it will fail, it will fail unless we have a half a million troops?
Bush said, I don't care, and did it.
And they knew all along this was going to happen, and I've read policy reports where they want a quagmire as an excuse to play this out over ten years, like Vietnam, to make money off of it.
Well, I hate to believe that anybody would put our kids deliberately in harm's way just for a buck, but the truth of the matter is that we have to be able to convince the world that terrorism is not just...
So now we've played the part of the bad cop, and the good cop, the UN, is going to come in and save us.
Well, I think it's saving the world.
You know, we've had a whole lot of decisions made because of oil between Great Britain and the United States.
And there's no question that... Well, where do you see the Iraq War going, then?
I know.
You're saying you think it'll be U.N.
Not necessarily the U.N., but certainly the international community.
So a multinational I-4 type force.
And we have to make it.
This morning I had a special meeting with the African leaders because I had a trade bill.
I was at the White House with the President.
And a lot of people don't know, a lot of those Africans are Muslims.
They are friends.
They are trading partners.
If only we could learn more about the Islamic religion so that we're not being portrayed against Jews and Christians against Muslims.
But we don't have a sophistication in our foreign policy.
The terrorists tell them, hey, they've got to come here, they've got to kill the young, and they've got to blow up your buildings.
Congressman, we're almost out of time with you.
We've got to take an international approach to get out of this mess.
These two final questions for you, Congressman.
25% of our troops in Iraq were illegal aliens from Latin America and other countries.
That's the federal government's own numbers.
I mean, the last time this happened was the British, with their German Hessian mercs, freebooters, brought in...
To go up against the American people in 1776 and 1812.
I mean, this is out of control.
Down on the Texas border, in Mexico, they've got recruiting offices.
I mean, what does this mean when our government is accelerating towards the majority of our military not even being Americans?
Well, you know, when we had the so-called willing coalition, when 95% of the troops there were Americans...
We went to the smallest African countries and Central American countries and Caribbean countries and actually paid them to send 100 troops, 1,000 troops over, and they called it the Willing Coalition.
So it would be a sad day in American history when we go to foreigners and ask them to fight our battles.
And I tell you, if this was something... I'm 75 years old, and I'm telling you, if I ever thought my country was threatened, I could volunteer to do something
And the whole idea that the president cannot make a patriotic appeal for people to join to defend the United States and the free world shows that they have no sensitivity for those that they got right there because of bonuses.
Well, last question, sir.
Where is it going to go?
What is going to happen?
When we've got our troops in this radioactive DU wasteland, the Army's own documents admitted, the Army's got 50% plus recruitment losses, even with lowered numbers.
The Marines have got 25% with lowered numbers.
Everything's falling apart.
The death toll is rising.
And Bush is talking about going into Iran.
I mean, what's going to happen with the draft?
You've introduced the bill for men and women.
It may not be the draft that's going to happen.
But the same way the American people got fed up with our Americans dying in Vietnam, we were told by Johnson and Nixon and all of them that if we didn't win in Vietnam, there'd be a domino theory, the communists would take over that part of the world.
The truth is, we got traded, he's not with Vietnam.
And we're dealing with them, and communism is not an issue.
What about George Galloway?
Did you hear about how they told those lies about him in the Congress and tried to claim he got money for oil, but it turned out that he didn't do anything and he's now winning libel suits?
I can't begin to tell you what the difference between the lies, the misinformation they got.
They have, you know, there was a group, I know you don't have much time, called the Project for a New American... No, we've got time for you, sir.
Go ahead.
Well, you know, two years before this war, Rumsfeld, Cheney, Wolfowitz, the guy Bolton that they're trying to get... Jeb Bush.
Jeb Bush.
They all had decided...
That they were going to knock off this Saddam Hussein anyway.
Did you hear Bush's biographer just came out?
Yes, with the same type of information.
And so 911 was just an excuse to do what they had already decided to do.
And they thought they could go on this and slam, damn, thank you, ma'am, knock this guy over, and America wouldn't know anything about it.
Well, just like you drive a car by mistake into a rental car agency and those spikes come out of the ground,
And that's what happened to us.
You know, the president said that we'd won the war.
Well, we may have won knocking off Saddam Hussein, but we didn't win in terms of how the hell we get out.
And American people now are down to 43% in support of the president's foreign policy, and it's getting low every day.
When Americans get angry, they get to the Congress.
We're vulnerable.
We've got a two-year contract.
And if we want to be here, we've got to listen to our constituents.
I say it is a threat because there is a common tendency that you have one president and one commander-in-chief and
If you're wrong, you've got to be on the side of the president.
Give him the benefit of the doubt.
I voted against the war, but quite frankly, I was scared to death that I could have been wrong.
I was afraid that maybe there was information they had that they didn't share it with the Congress.
But do you think they might bring out more fake evidence again to bolster?
Do you think they might open the door for terrorists?
A lot of evidence shows that happened.
Let me make it clear that if I could find in my heart
That that did happen and can happen again, I would not hesitate to file a petition for impeachment.
Well, I'm sure you've heard that from your constituents.
A major Zogby poll in New York.
It's evidence that the president would deliberately put American lives in conflict when we have no threat to our national security in order just to accomplish his own agenda that was written before he was president.
That is grounds for impeachment.
Well, sir, we have the Downing Street memos.
We have all these articles coming out where we have their own memos where they knew he wasn't a threat, and they said they had to go to war.
So are you calling for impeachment?
No, but I am saying this, that the president denies that the FBI papers and the CIA papers say they received bad information.
The only thing they say is everyone had bad information, but there's no one that is actually...
Given evidence that the president acknowledged that this information was bad and deliberately took us to war.
I know the facts point in that direction, but I think impeachment, unlike what the Republicans did to Clinton for his ridiculous sex acts, that impeachment is something that's too serious for us to belittle and just to use it for political purposes.
Well, I mean, what about impeachment for Dick Cheney running the contracts for the war out of the VP's office?
That's admitted.
Well, impeachment is a very serious offense.
But the more people know about what occurred with this administration, especially before the re-election...
The more democracy will work and pressure will be put on.
The same way Johnson walked away from Vietnam, he just couldn't face the electorate when they found it out.
So in a nutshell, if I can get the sound bite from you, Congressman, tell me if this is correct.
You're saying you don't think we'll have a draft because this war has become so unpopular we're going to be forced to pull out of there.
I think that's exactly what I'm saying.
And I think that the silence of our
Of our ministers and our rabbis, Catholic and Protestant, it brought us on being immoral.
You know, we've had terrible things that happened in this world, in Germany and Africa and even in the South, and good people were just quiet.
And I think that it's time for people just to say that our president, this administration, and the Congress should be held accountable for every lifeless being lost in the Middle East right now.
Congressman Rangel, it's pretty obvious when PNAC says we need a Pearl Harbor event to mobilize the people to attack Saddam.
He's not a threat, but he's got the oil, and we'll say he's a threat, and we'll use it.
Iraq is a military base.
I mean, that's the September 2000 PNAC document.
And then all those things magically happen in that order.
I smell a big, gigantic, stinking rat.
What about you?
I do, but I don't think we find too many people with our keen sense of spelling in this country.
All right, Congressman Rangel, I really appreciate you coming on and spending so much time with us.
And I guess if folks want to visit your website or information, they can just go to the House of Representatives website and type in Rangel.
You're a great host.
It's a great show.
Thank you for having me on it.
Thank you, Congressman.
Take care.
Well, I meant to kind of get mad at him, and I did a little bit, but he was honest with us on most issues.
And you notice he said the UN or the international community is going to come save us in Iraq.
I saw that before the war.
I mean, I'm on record two years before the war saying that's what happened.
Folks, Rangel, he smells a big rat, and he said that not many of us have that keen sense of smell.
So he wouldn't go as far as Galloway, but we got some good nuggets out of him.
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We had Rangel on, congressman, about the national draft that Bush needs.
But right now, let's go to your calls.
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Jeff in Texas.
Go ahead, Jeff.
Hey, Alex.
How can you dare say that there's going to be a national draft?
President Bush told me less than a year ago on national TV the talk of the draft was just something out on the Internet.
Well, then he said there's going to be a national draft.
We're going to have national conscription.
I mean, no draft!
No draft!
Did you ever hear that Freudian slip?
They've introduced the bills.
The bills are in there.
And you just heard Rangel.
But we're still conspiracy theorists.
I can't believe Rangel was actually that forthcoming, or even that he came on your show, which is a sign to me that things in Washington are very, very volatile right now.
I had a question for you.
Did you hear how nice Rangel was?
Yeah, he was really good.
Did you hear what he said when I brought up 9-11?
I didn't know he was a veteran.
Yeah, I did hear what you said.
That may be a flip on his part.
I don't know.
But I did have a question for you.
I came across an interview from 2001 with a guy named Daniel Sheehan.
I don't know if you know who he is.
That rings a bell.
Yeah, he was a legal counsel in some of the Iran counter proceedings and such.
I think we're good.
Who Bush 41 was basically a student of.
I know who Shackley is, but that's not the top.
These guys are managers for the big money.
The top is the Rothschilds, the Rockefellers, the Dutch and British royal family.
The top really is the Queen of England.
Where does the Bush pyramidal structure fit in with Rockefeller, then?
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said he's a Rockefeller Republican.
And they all work for the same people.
And then the Queen of England owns the big tabloids that puts out the propaganda that she's a joke when she owns half of Canada.
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Yeah, I've heard different... Look, they're so powerful, their own people don't even know what a real name is.
Where do the European powers who openly come out against Bush?
How do they get hit off against Bush?
Hold on, let me tell you.
We're the bad cop.
They play the part of the good cop.
Did you hear Rangel?
The international force will save Iraq.
I said two years before, that's the plan.
So is it the queens pulling the strings, pitting them off against each other?
They're not even pitting off, sir.
They have to act like there's a good cop and a bad cop.
You know what a good cop and a bad cop is, don't you?
That's nuts.
They're dialecticians.
I understand that.
Well, yeah, no, it's where one cop goes, I'm going to crack your skull, punk.
You don't answer the questions, and he punches you.
Then the other cop comes in and goes, hey, get back, Mac.
You can't abuse this young man.
Listen, I can barely hold him back, but you've got to give me the answers.
Well, whatever they're doing, it's not working.
It's actually working like a charm.
Why are you saying it's not working?
Well, because we were talking about the same thing about the draft and a false flag attack a year ago.
They should have pulled it off by now.
Oh, no, no.
I'll say this.
I mean, their plans are going well, a little too well.
I mean, Iraq is totally falling off the face of the earth.
They didn't want that.
They just wanted bedlam, controlled hysteria.
Jeff, you're bringing up really good points here.
Stay there.
I don't want to just say you're wrong.
I mean, everything's so complex.
You're right and you're wrong, and I'm probably right and wrong, too, but
They have lost control.
That much is clear.
But they want to pick up the pieces.
Again, they're masters at creating crises.
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All right, eight minutes into this third and final hour, and I want to go to your calls quickly, but Jeff in Texas was bringing up
We're good to go.
I mean, Bush's people knew that this was going to blow up in their face, but it was designed to do that to lengthen the crises.
And then a normal person looks at this and goes, well, we want to win the war.
I mean, why are they doing things that are causing us to lose it?
Well, it's like Vietnam.
They could have won that thing in six weeks.
The generals knew that, but they were never allowed to carry out the operations that would have done it.
And then the minute Nixon started getting ready to really do that, boy, they shot him down in a second.
And he was a globalist.
So it's the same thing.
Would you rather have ten years of war or one year of war if you own companies that sell weapons and feed troops and make the uniforms and sell the oil?
I mean, it's a joke.
And so that's what's really going on here.
But in the end, it's meant to all come out about the lies of weapons of mass destruction.
It's meant to all come out.
We're meant to have Bush biographers going public and saying he bragged about how he planned to invade Iraq two years before he even got elected.
We're meant to hear all this.
And then Europe comes as our savior.
Just as Rangel said in the last hour, Rangel will save us.
Jeff, finish up your points.
Yeah, I think my point is they're losing the info war, and it's resulting in the fact that there's a huge calipolia that people do not trust major media anymore.
Well, I'm going to be on Coast to Coast AM for three or four hours coming up Thursday night debating two of these guys.
So we'll see what happens with that.
Yeah, one side or backside attack I see coming here is with trusted computing because in a lot of ways our biggest defense is a free and open Internet.
And with trusted computing, with all these embedded chips that will make computers trusted or not,
The globalists can block a lot of people out of this lifeblood of ours, which is the Internet.
No, I agree with you, and thanks for the call.
They plan to let the Internet grow, be used.
They saw it as a taxation grid for all business to go on to it, to where then no one could escape being tracked and traced and taxed by them.
But instead it has, and I mean this is in their own policy reports,
We're good to go.
I think?
They're not upgrading the old hubs.
Okay, just type in the Internet is dead and you'll read their policy reports in Europe and the U.S.
talking about what they're going to do to us.
It's disgusting.
It's totally disgusting.
Richard in Texas.
Go ahead, Richard.
They're not upgrading the old hub.
Put him on hold.
Sir, you've got the radio up in the background or you're in a big area or something.
Try to go back to him again.
Patrick in Texas.
Yeah, okay.
A lot of calls in Texas.
Patrick, go ahead.
Yeah, Alex, you mentioned about drug dealers running to prisons.
Well, I picked up trash, and there's a bale of cocaine outside the prisons.
I heard that on the radio.
And sure enough, they came over the TV, film footage, just cocaine, a big pile of cocaine in the prison where the prisoners snorted it.
You get more drugs in prison than you do on the street.
So you were picking up trash on the side of the road.
Yeah, by prison.
And you found a bale of cocaine?
It was marked by a piece of hay, believe it or not.
I bent down to pick it up, knowing what it was, and a darn hay hit me in the eye, but the darn thing was wrapped up in plastic outside a prison road we were picking up trash on.
What prison was this?
I don't know.
I think it was Palestine Prison, Palestine State Prison.
Oh, you live out by Palestine?
Well, what I was doing for the mental health people, they can't, you know, they use you for all kinds of things, but...
All right, I appreciate your call.
And by drug dealers running the prisons, there's about three big private prison companies.
We're good to go.
I think?
You've got the big official ships and planes that come in that are guarded by the CIA, and that's about 70% of the drugs.
From all of my sources.
I mean, just massive loads of it, directly sold to police chiefs and others who are the main drug dealers.
And then they deal the drugs and control the entire operation.
Then about 20% are other little cartels that have to pay a license just to grow it in their country of origin.
And then they have to pay all the way up the chain throughout the United States to locals to be able to bring their drugs in.
And then you've got the 10% that are total cowboys that are hunted down, killed, their crops sprayed.
We're good to go.
Or then it gets even dirtier.
You can't have Green Berets in Dallas, Texas, killing some young college kid who's dealing a bunch of cocaine and cutting in on the CIA's deals.
So they just send in Los Zetas, and the kid walks out, a 21-year-old yuppie, and they kill him, or they blow their car up, and that's it, Los Zetas hits you.
Or some cop's trying to bust your people, kill the cop.
Or the cop's corrupt, not paying his cut, kill the cop.
And the news knows to keep their mouth shut about it.
I mean, I knew it was a government operation off the bat with that, but then I talked to all my sources, Selle Castillo and many others, and they're training Los Getos at CIA bases in South Texas.
They work for the U.S.
They're out there killing the gangs and the drug dealers that don't pay their cut.
Really simple, folks.
So that's what the drug dealers are.
That's what they do.
John in Ohio.
Go ahead, John.
Yes, I want to talk about what may be one of the guests that I heard previously on George Noory that may be up against you, as well as Rangel, if I can.
But he had some weeks ago a man on who was just the most blatant and blustery defender of Bush's...
Attacks against Iraq, the most simple-minded justifications that it was all for freedom and fighting terrorism.
George Norrie was very impressed with them and said, gee, I must try to have you on the program.
He was also defending primarily the Star Wars program.
Which is really the auxiliary of the Project for a New American Century.
Yeah, space dominance.
Yeah, space dominance, and George Norrie was just all for that.
It's really for a first strike.
It's not for defenses to give the United States a first strike with the... Well, John, I mean, George is just polite to his guest.
He wants to have a real debate, so I don't want to sit here and bash George.
I'm going to be on, you know, arguing with these people Thursday.
Yeah, well, I just wanted you to know that when he begins to purr that we have all these enemies abroad.
I know how to deal with him, okay?
Okay, and now with Rangel, I think you're at a point now that most people, despite all the propaganda from the media, the corporate media, the Democrats, the Republicans, most people want out of there.
And for him now to say, when we've got Bush boxed in right now, and he will be forced to leave, possibly...
To rescue him with a draft.
It's ridiculous.
Don't hold your breath.
Remember what Galloway said.
Very real threat that Bush will carry out a terror attack.
Well, that's exactly what I think we've got to talk about.
And realize that I was even reading that they're using CIA-sponsored terrorism in Iraq right now.
Some of the independent journalists like Darja Maul.
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Yeah, our military, and it's not ours, it's controlled by the bankers...
Yes, and what the heck is this guy going over to Asia, Asian military ministers' conference?
Hey, John, John, don't try it.
Rumsfeld helped arm China and North Korea.
Well, before we start... They're peas in a pod, John!
Well, let's not create one horrible war for a genocidal war with Korea and China because the Project for a New American Century has them in Phase 2.
They are considered the ultimate... Stay there, you can stay there.
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Well, here's the analogy.
John, who's on the line with us from Ohio, is like a heavyweight boxing fan.
And I've tried to explain to John that Don King owns both the fighters, but it's going to be a staged match that isn't real.
And because he doesn't like one of the fighters, he goes, oh yes, it's bad, it's corrupt, it's not real, but the other fighter, they're good.
Communist China uses the exact same tactics of our elite.
They do the same type of stuff.
Rumsfeld was involved arming them.
Then they blame Bill Clinton for it.
I love that when neocons do that.
Bill Clinton and missile secrets.
Yes, and he was doing it because he's controlled by the same people.
So is it like the Western where the evil regulator throws the gun down at the 12-year-old's feet and says, Pick the gun up, kid.
Pick it up, punk.
And then when he reaches for it, they blow him away?
Are they trying to set that up?
I don't know.
I mean, it seems like they're putting all the industry over there and shifting everything over there and then just saber-rattling for weapons sales while picking on innocent countries like Iraq while leaving dangerous countries like Pakistan and North Korea alone.
But, I mean, John, I know this.
The bankers funded your precious commies.
Go ahead, John.
No, I'm not saying whether they're good, bad, or indifferent.
I'm just saying, in the same case, the motivation for attacking Iraq or China is going to be the same plan described in the Project for a New American Century to eliminate any obstacle, just by their mere existence, just by their independent sovereignty, not any threat to us, an obstacle to these mad plans of these neocons for world domination described in their own documents.
And I think that it's beginning to show right now with Rumsfeld going over there, thousands of miles away from our shores, being the main speaker, the dominant speaker at an Asian Defense Ministers Conference, starting to try to pick a fight with China.
When we've got our 7th Fleet prowling into their China Straits and China Sea thousands of miles away,
It looks like some of these Democrats are arguing against Bush by being more Bush than Bush.
On the one hand, they say we should have sent in hundreds of thousands of more groups.
That's not opposing Bush.
That's being more Bush than Bush, and then they counterpose to that.
Well, we should be more concerned with picking a fight with North Korea or China.
That would be even more genocidal and more murderous.
And I think, you know, I was even reading in the official media of North Korea where they said, we want in no way any confrontation or conflict with the United States whatsoever.
I don't want to defend North Korea purely evil, but you're right.
They're saying peace, peace, but you read our headlines, Kim Jong-il says he's going to kill us.
And so those are lies, but I'll tell you this, John, you could be right.
And that the crisis may not be Bush nuking a city or releasing smallpox.
The global crisis to bring in the New World Order may well be World War III.
They may start it.
They may blow up one of our ships and say North Korea did it.
But I think China's in on the game, sir, and I think they'll play along with it.
Same with your precious pooty-poot.
No, they're not anything that I'm necessarily defending, but I'm just saying that North Korea has said that they looked at the example of...
Well, I'm telling you, Pootie Poot's in bed with Bush.
Oh, you're talking about, yeah, Putin.
Well, that's Bush.
Our president calls him Pootie Poot, so I'll call him that.
Do you know what President Bush calls Rumsfeld?
Can't say it on the air.
Do you know his nickname for Karl Rove?
Well, let's just say this shows major mental illness.
Yeah, but I think there's a simpler way to explain it.
I think it's just a matter of inter-imperialist rivalry.
The United States is the top imperialist in the world.
That's all it is.
And they are powerless junior partners.
The European Union just saw that they were being cut out of their top politicians there, and they will cave in and go along as soon as they get cut.
But that was designed to be done.
I'm talking about the financial interests, not the puppets.
Yes, that's what I'm talking about.
Those people over there,
And the Iraqi people don't want anybody in there.
John, it's simple.
You've got a multi-headed Hydra that doesn't want you to know it's a Hydra, so it stages fights between its different heads.
The fight is against the people, like George Arwell said.
Well, I think that there are real conflicting differences of interest between the European Union, for instance.
And they are not the aggressors.
China and North Korea are not the aggressors.
The ones that stated that they want to and are carrying out world domination is the U.S.
branch of that military.
But I'm telling you, John, it's the same big banks in Europe are the predominant owners of our media and our government.
Well, I think somehow that's a kind of a diversion to say the foreign enemy, once again, is the one behind us.
Sir, it isn't about what you think.
It's about the evidence, sir.
Well, I do know there are connections, but I think there's also conflict.
It's an inter-imperialist rivalry, but we're the bad bully on the block.
We've got all the weapons, and we're using them around the world.
But, sir, they have to have the false division, the false choice.
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All right, I want to get into the latest mad cow news.
Also, this move towards world taxation becoming a lot clearer.
We'll take three final calls here as well from Walt and John and Mike.
That's all I have time for.
But before we do this, this happened last Friday.
Outrage after GOP cuts off microphones at Patriot Act hearing.
A furor erupted after Republican House Judiciary Chairman James F. Sensenbrenner shut off the microphones during a hearing on the Patriot Act Friday, accusing Democrats of raising issues unrelated to the act, such as treatment of detainees at Guantanamo Bay.
Well, that shows how the government will ignore people's rights, and how this gives them a blank check.
I mean, just no warrants, period.
Forget just rubber stamps.
Just no warrants, period.
The Democrats' leader in the House, Nancy Pelosi, called the move a shameful attempt today to silence the Democrats at hearings this morning on the impact of the Patriot Act and demanded the Republican leadership force Sensenbrenner to apologize.
Well, most Democrats voted for the Patriot Act, too.
And they say they'll vote for this one.
It's just more chicken fighting, more mindless partisanship to make you think there's a choice.
Meanwhile, the L.A.
Times is telling the truth.
Says Patriot Act push anger some on the right.
A Senate panel vote riles conservatives concerned about the reach of federal power.
A closed-door vote by the Senate Intelligence Committee last week to expand law enforcement powers under the USA Patriot Act is prompting sharp criticism from some conservative leaders who are otherwise among the most vocal allies of President Bush and the Republican leadership in Congress.
The conservative leaders who have formed a coalition with critics on the left, including the American Civil Liberties Union, vowed to press their concerns in coming days with public statements, rallies, and radio advertisements in key congressional districts.
By the way, this is all a shill to limit how bad it really is, to make you think we're fighting, to control the movement against it.
Bob Barr voted for the first Patriot Act, by the way.
The conservatives included former Representative Bob Barr and political activists who have been long-standing critics of the anti-terrorism law lashed out at particular forces last week against the White House.
Members of the Congress, Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez, they said they had expected a more open review of the Patriot Act in which lawmakers considered some limits in order to safeguard civil liberties.
But in a hearing Friday, they weren't even going to allow any witnesses, so members of the committee wanted to speak out, and Lord Sensenbrenner just said no.
Now, folks, here's the problem.
Whenever Bob Barr gets up, it's like, this could be misused against someone.
What do you mean could be?
Pot dealers, topless bar owners, county commissioners, Rubik's Cube sellers, veterans that complain too much.
They're now putting cameras up all over Los Angeles with federal money saying it's infrastructure protection.
You know, every bit of data, everything you buy and do, Patriot Act tracked and traced.
Drug prosecutors are using it all over the place going, we don't need warrants anymore.
We have the Patriot Act.
So they put in these half-hearted fights.
It's like when I saw the head of Amnesty International on Fox a few weeks ago
Then we go, show me one piece of evidence.
Show me one piece of... And he should have said, Alberto Gonzalez's own memo is calling for torture and people to death.
Brigadier General Rick Bacchus quit Guantanamo refusing to torture.
Two weeks ago, the head interrogator refused to torture anymore and went public.
We have the 15 of the Army's own reports.
The Tugumbu report admitting torturing people to death, raping women.
No, none of that.
You never put up a real fight.
They have stage fights.
These groups are staged.
I'm telling you.
All right, here's some more theater with us, Sensenbrenner, and we'll go to your calls and cover some other news.
The chair now recognizes himself.
First, the chair would like to thank all of the witnesses for coming and appearing, and particularly in preparing your testimony on short notice.
Let me say that the purpose for which this hearing was called and the scope of the hearing was stated in the letter that was submitted to me, signed by the Democratic members, which was the reauthorization of the USA Patriot Act.
I've sat here listening very patiently to the testimony, to the questions, to the answers.
And much of what has been stated is not relevant to the 16 sections of the USA Patriot Act, which were sunsetted when the law was enacted in October of 2001.
One of the things that people who are opposed to the Patriot Act have been doing is stating that the Patriot Act was responsible for a whole host of frustrations or objections to administration policy.
This hearing confirmed that fact, that the Patriot Act is being used as a buzzword for people who have very broad brush objections.
I think that when Congress debates the reauthorization of the Patriot Act, we ought to stick to the subject, and that subject is the 16 provisions of the Patriot Act which we must consider and decide whether to reauthorize, whether to lapse, or whether to amend.
The Patriot Act has nothing to do with Guantanamo Bay.
The Patriot Act has nothing to do with enemy combatants.
The Patriot Act has nothing to do with indefinite detentions.
Those were provisions of other sections of the law, many of which occurred prior to the enactment of the Patriot Act.
Now notice, we're not talking about indefinite detentions.
We're not talking about camps.
We're not talking about enemy combatant designations.
Just all these massive things that they have been using the Patriot Act in.
And Patriot Act 2 would codify the enemy combatant designation and all that stuff that he just mentioned into law, and that's what's being tagged on to this new Patriot Act expansion.
It isn't just pass the 16 sections that elapse.
A lot of the key provisions do not elapse, by the way.
Notice he just says 16 sections.
It's always been the terrorist threat doesn't end.
In 2005, we've got to reauthorize and strengthen.
So, number one, he's a big fat liar.
But they do this.
You'll be having a debate and they'll say, well, that's not what we're discussing here.
Now we're going to limit the scope.
This is a lawyer thing they do.
We got Alberto Gonzalez saying he's above the law.
And so, Simpson Brenner sees the witnesses they want to have, so he just doesn't even allow witnesses.
He just ends the whole debate.
Because he's saying that none of this has anything to do with it.
So, I mean, it's mind-blowing.
Please go back to it.
...of 2001.
The so-called Crepe Memorandum, which had a blanket closure of immigration proceedings, was issued before the Patriot Act was enacted, and the Deputy Attorney General testified earlier this week that it's no longer being followed.
And some of the testimony related to provisions of the Patriot Act...
That's another thing they do.
There's nothing in there about stopping illegal aliens.
There's nothing in there.
You've heard Bush order the Border Patrol to stand down.
But they will throw terms around about stopping illegal immigrants and just mention that term to confuse the average person out there.
Please back to this liar.
And this committee put the sunset on provisions of the law which actually increased the powers of law enforcement but did not put the sunset on those provisions of the law which restated the powers that law enforcement had had prior to October of... There you go!
See, he now admits that most of it isn't even sunsetted to begin with.
And it doesn't restate it.
Oh yeah, it connects into U.S.
One thing they say that's true is Bush always says, well, this is nothing we haven't used against drug dealers.
Yeah, it's true.
You pull a family over, they got five grand.
You steal the five grand.
No drugs, no pot seeds, no nothing.
You don't even arrest anybody.
You just go prove it's yours.
Thousands of cases of asset forfeiture seizure.
Most of the bars, and I mean most folks, in Seattle are owned by cops now.
You know why?
I think particularly irresponsible and indicative of the broad brush accusations of the Patriot Act was what I just heard saying the Patriot Act has resulted in Minutemen being on the border.
That's not true, and that's irresponsible, and I think anybody who knows what is going on... No, I will not yield.
Right there.
See, he brings in something that he knows is wildly popular, the Minutemen.
How dare you say we cause the minute men?
Immigration, immigration.
So you're trying to act like that's what it does.
See how this sneaky, sneaky lawyer, like you're the jury out there, a bunch of idiots.
Back to this moron.
We'll see that fact.
You know, let me say that I think this hearing very, very clearly shows what the opponents of the Patriot Act are doing.
They'll talk about practically everything but what's in the Patriot Act and what this committee is considering.
The only really relevant testimony that I heard was from Mr. Pitts relative to Section 215 of the Patriot Act that said that librarians have been receiving all kinds of questions from law enforcement.
I'd like to ask you, Mr. Pitts, to submit for the record.
The names of the librarians that have received actual Section 215 orders from the FISA Court to produce business records.
And we'll give you a week to put that in the record.
So thank you all for coming today.
I thank the members for changing their schedules to participate.
And the committee is adjourned.
Point of order, Mr. Chairman.
He just walked off.
Well, he sounded panicked, didn't he?
He just shut the committee down.
I'm going to decide.
I'm going to decide what you're allowed to show.
I'm going to decide what's relevant.
I'm God.
I'm God.
Alright, so that's the end of it.
I mean, basically, the chairman, because he controls everything, shut the microphones off and just left.
And that's what they do, folks.
I was about to mention 213, 215.
We have a giant section on prisonplanet.com of AP, Reuters, UPI, where...
A local topless bar owner gives a county commissioner $4,000 in a campaign contribution to give him zoning for parking.
And you may not like topless bars, folks, but the point is that that's not terrorism.
Or the lady who gets the Homeland Security visit under the Patriot Act.
They said, under the Patriot Act, we are in infrastructure protection.
Take those Rubik's Cubes off the shelves, and we're going to charge you with terrorism.
I mean, we've got like 100 articles.
It's got to be more than that.
Where do they use it?
All the time.
And these chairmen will get up and say, I've seen them before, I dare you to show me one place it's been used.
Committee adjourned.
End of discussion.
By the way, it isn't just the librarians.
It's the librarians that are complaining.
215 is for every business.
Sole proprietorship.
Used car dealership.
Grocery store.
Only the librarians in Borders Books, complain about it too, have refused.
That's why you've heard about it.
It's any record.
You will give me all your records and you won't tell anybody ever that I took these records.
Or you'll be charged with terrorism.
They told the lady at the Rubik's Cube at Puffer Belly Toys.
We had her on, remember?
They told her to keep her mouth shut.
So she called and said, this isn't even an illegal toy I'm selling.
It's not a knockoff.
She called Rubik's Cube.
Well, no, our patent's been up for two years.
They were at that little lady's office thinking she wouldn't do anything to set the precedent.
I mean, folks, there's so many examples of it.
I'm just blown away right now.
I don't even know.
I've got a bunch of news I wanted to hit here, but let's just go quickly to calls.
Who's up next here?
Walt in Michigan.
Go ahead, Walt.
How you doing, Alex?
A couple things.
You stated that you're going to be on Coast to Coast Thursday.
That's this coming Thursday and the 16th?
What is the time of that show?
It's at midnight central.
I don't know the station in your area.
It's on about 500 radio stations.
I'm sure you can find it.
The second thing I wanted to make a comment or give you a little history about
An experience I had concerning the open borders that we're experiencing now.
Okay, sir.
Back in the 80s, I was in contact with a contra who was on radio, talk shows up here in Michigan at times, and on shortwave as well.
And I talked to him personally on the phone.
He called me and told me that insurgents are going to be coming across our border and coming into the United States and setting up an infrastructure of undermining our power structures, food terrorism, whatever you want to call it, where they go in and poison our foods and cause all kinds of upheaval.
But if there's going to be any invasion, sir, it's going to be by our own government, like Los Zetas.
The CIA controls them.
They're out killing people.
Well, what I wanted to say is this.
I knew back in the 80s, and I was telling a guy at work I work with, a Mexican-American.
I shouldn't say use that slash American, but he was a Mexican-American.
And he said, oh, he started laughing and mocking and making fun of me.
And all that ain't going to happen.
That's not going on.
And it's been going on for a long time.
And a lot of it's legitimate people who are wanting to work and make money but don't want to go through the green card program to come in here.
Well, sir, what's going on is admitted over 100 killings the last year in Texas alone.
Mexican special forces on the U.S.
payroll publicly are running around slaughtering citizens that don't pay them their cut.
Now, you remember that sheriff down there on Border County?
Jim Hogg County.
Yeah, I talked to this guy on the phone, personally talked to him.
I think I called your call-in line and let one of your guys know.
We've had the sheriff on, yeah.
Yeah, he's no patriot, he's no American.
No, the foreign troops, yeah, shooting at him.
Thanks for the call, I appreciate it.
If I sound frustrated, it's just, sir, the show's on at midnight, but I can't tell you what affiliate it is.
I mean, I don't know everything.
But I'm frustrated here because I've got a bunch of news, and I'm almost out of time.
There's no time to cover everything.
Let's go ahead and talk to John in Tennessee.
John, go ahead.
Hi, Alex.
Hi, John.
I'm going to have to let you go.
I'm sorry.
Thank you for the call.
I'm not doing well with the radio turn way up.
We're going to go on a break now and come back.
And after this break, I may take a call or two if the radios are down.
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Yeah, I get a little frustrated sometimes.
It's not even with you, the callers.
I mean, I'm just looking at these articles.
Police turn to scan of irises.
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Associated Press.
They need to make all children retina scan for their safety.
G8 wants tax on airline tickets to help world poor.
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That's all it is, is world taxation.
They want an oil tax, a money transfer tax, and it's all global, and it'll start at one-half of one percent and be massive overnight.
Here's another one.
Times of London.
Disruptive toddlers to be treated as potential criminals.
See, thought crime.
Children as young as three are to be singled out by nursery staff if they display aggressive behavior or have a family background of criminality, according to government report.
The study leaked yesterday proposed nursery staff should note children of three or four who bullied other children is deemed as a risk of growing up to be criminals.
This just starts a report and a dossier on you.
They already do that here in the U.S.
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The British government has now released the documents where they ordered his execution.
He tried to turn himself in and did and wanted to end the war early, but they went ahead and killed him because he had too many connections to the British government.
That would have been embarrassing.
Of course it would have been.
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There's some of it I didn't get to.
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Mike, thanks for holding your artel gunner.
Hey, Alex, how's it going?
Good, sir.
Our vice president, our vice viewer, was on TV on MSNBC an hour ago, and the headliner said, we are obliged to treat them, the prisoners in Guantanamo, as enemy combatants.
And then the words out of Chinese mouth said, they don't qualify for Geneva Convention's...
Protection, because they didn't don a uniform.
They didn't play by the rule.
Therefore, if we don't ever don a uniform, we're in big trouble.
Well, our police don't wear uniforms now.
Most of our military doesn't.
So are they going to be subjected to Guantanamo Bay-type tactics?
Well, the point is, a crime is a crime.
You can't torture anybody to death.
That's true.
That's true.
If they just die, it's their fault.
Good points.
Anything else?
No, that's it.
I wouldn't know.
A lot more.
I know you're out of time, so you go ahead and close out.
We'll have a great day.
All right.
God bless you all.
Take care.