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Big Brother.
Mainstream media.
Government cover-ups.
You want answers?
Well, so does he.
He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
Hello, ladies and gentlemen.
It's already Monday, the 21st day of March, 2005.
I'm your host, Alex Jones.
We'll be live for the next three hours.
We've got Greg Szymanski, writer for American Free Press and documentary filmmaker, coming on with us in the second hour via cell phone from a courtroom or outside a courtroom.
He has been researching 9-11 for quite a while and has come out with a very interesting report that we've now investigated.
And we're going to be having the individual who worked for the Pentagon, still works for the Pentagon, on very soon as well.
The perfect terrorist plan to level the Twin Towers created in 1976.
And it was an Army plan...
A drill of hijackers taking over a plane with box cutters and flying them into the World Trade Centers.
And the Pentagon specifically told the Army, do this drill in 76 specifically with the World Trade Centers.
Now, you ask yourselves, why would they tell their own military planners to come up with this?
Because most of the planning that's engaged in is compartmentalized.
And it can later be covered as, oh, it was just a drill.
What the globalists do is they give hundreds of top think tank experts these, quote, scenarios that came out right before 9-11 that $40 million a year was spent in Hollywood paying Hollywood top script writers to just write scripts of different terror attacks.
Quote, to see what the minds of terrorists might be like.
But of course, many of those scripts we then find are actual terrorist attacks down to the specifics of what happens.
And this works perfectly because it can be a terrorist manual for the black ops squads inside the New World Order, and then if they ever get caught, oh, that was just a movie script.
Very, very serious.
And Paul Watson's comment on this that he wrote over the American Free Press article says...
If completely confirmed 100%, then this is the smoking gun over and above Northwoods.
That was the official U.S.
government plan to carry out 9-11 attacks.
The NORAD stand down, the explosives in the buildings, any other piece of 9-11 evidence.
It's going to be interesting to see how they pass this one off as a coincidence.
We need to get this on the news wires immediately.
This is the straw that could break the camel's back.
And these harsh analysis comes from Timothy McNiven, an outspoken critic of the president's handling of 9-11 and a 29-year U.S.
Defense Department operative still under contract with the government.
And he's got his website up.
He's got all the documents.
He's suing the government over this.
He's taken lie detector tests.
And look, I mean, we already knew they'd... I have the 1999 FEMA report on terrorism.
That's it in the extra section of Road to Tyranny.
And I show it, and it shows crosshairs right on the towers, right where they got hit.
I mean, that's the cover of it.
Tom Clancy's best-selling book about it.
Lone Gunman episodes where the government hijacks jets to fly them into the World Trade Center for martial law and to invade Afghanistan.
They love flaunting it.
And then Bush says, we never heard of such a plan.
No, you just ran drills that day, two weeks before, six months before, and on November 3rd of 2000, years before.
The exact type planes hitting the exact same targets, and then magically at the exact same time that it's really happening, you're running a drill.
Yes, and I'm an Easter Bunny from Planet 12.
It's impossible!
They did it!
And they had it from a commissioned study they had done by some of their war gamers in 1976.
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Big Brother.
Mainstream media.
Government cover-ups.
You want answers?
Well, so does he.
He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
8 seconds segment, 8 minutes 30 seconds into this first hour.
It is Monday, 21st day of March 2005.
I'm Alex Jones, your host.
The websites are Infowars.com because there's a war on for your mind, and PrisonPlanet.com because if we don't expose the New World Order, we're all going to live in a giant prison planet control group.
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We love human dignity.
We love decency and honor, and we know that the global crime syndicate is totally evil and is openly building a worldwide slave grid.
Bush signs a bill that may let Shivo live, which is good.
And now people are saying, praise Bush.
Maybe he's against guns, and maybe he's for open borders and increasing U.N.
funding and ballooning the budget.
But under pressure...
Why, he's signed a bill that may allow her to live and kicks it to a federal court.
Now up to a judge to decide.
But, you know, I've had Terry Shivo Schindler's family on many times.
I've been talking about this for, I don't know, almost four years now.
And she's had her feeding tube taken out since Friday.
It's horrible.
First they said she was brain dead.
A vegetable for years.
Then we proved she wasn't.
Now they just call her brain damaged.
And we got Wesley Smith from the Wall Street Journal coming on tomorrow.
Because I want to talk about the hundreds of people who were openly talking.
Saying may I please have food.
May I please have water.
Who they're killing all over this country.
Who we should also be concerned about.
But this is good.
That everybody's come basically out of every corner of the country.
And the world...
To say this is wrong, so we'll talk about that.
Terry's there right now.
You imagine not having a drink of water for three days.
She's now, this afternoon, she'll be three days into this.
And last time, what, she was off food and water for almost nine days?
And back then, that was a couple years ago, it was only in a few newspapers, and Larry King finally talked about it, but it didn't get won.
Tenth the amount of coverage, not even one, really one hundredth.
I mean, this is like one of the top stories right now.
And it is important.
And our hearts go out to the family of Terry Schindler.
You really shouldn't call her Shivo.
Shivo's been with another woman for ten years.
He's got two children with this other woman.
That right there is abandonment.
I mean, if a man leaves his family for two weeks,
Doesn't give them support.
He's automatically, you know, the woman can divorce him.
If this was anybody else, they would have taken custody away from Mr. Cockroach, Mr. Shivo.
I'm sorry for your name, Shivo.
I shouldn't call that name Cockroach.
It's a good Italian name, I guess.
But her real name is Schindler.
And look, I mean, imagine if parents didn't feed their child for a week, the government would take the children and they should.
Imagine if you tried to not feed an animal for a week, or not give your horse water or your dog water for a week.
You would get in trouble.
You should.
It's cruelty.
But under the bioethics laws written up by people like Peter Singer, who speaks to the governor's conferences and is at Princeton, old people are worthless, retarded children are subhuman, and babies up until two years of age are considered macro.
Those are his terms.
Subhuman, worthless, and mackerel.
And he is the man who's written the predominant bioethics handbooks used by most of your hospitals and care facilities.
They're not care facilities anymore because they don't even call them that in many cases, and they don't even give a Hippocratic oath.
They don't even give an oath that they will do no harm
They decide if you have a life worth living.
So why didn't they just kill Christopher Reeves?
Why didn't they take the food and water away from Helen Keller?
Why don't they go kill physicist Stephen Hawking, who can't talk and can't move?
Can't even click his mouse anymore.
Why don't they just kill him?
Take him and strap him down and not give him any water for 14 days is what it normally takes.
By the way, this is in the medical handbooks we've got medical doctors on.
There is no debating it.
The most painful way to kill someone, one of the most gruesome forms of torture used over the last 3,000 years, is denying water.
Your tongue, after about six, seven days, begins to blacken, begins to crack and bleed.
The water leaves your skin, goes to the core organs.
You begin bleeding profusely.
It's all part of the new freedom.
And this is our compassion.
This is our right to die.
And Shivo now went on Larry King Live again Friday and said, Oh no, it's my wish that this happened.
We never knew what her wishes were.
He really slipped up.
These people...
Always slip up on their own.
They finally speak the truth.
The king just glazed over it.
Of course, she had gotten this position under very questionable circumstances.
Mr. Schiavo, as soon as he tricked the family, Oh, I want to take care of her.
Oh, I just sued them over not giving her proper care when she got to the hospital.
She wasn't given proper care for like three days.
It turned out he'd been involved in making sure that happened.
He then won over a million dollars, what, 1.3 mil?
And about $400,000 of that's been spent on her.
He won't allow her to have any baths, brush her teeth.
She was eating food 10 years ago.
Won't allow her to eat food.
She can eat food, folks.
She'll put jello in her mouth, she'll eat it.
Boy, that's a vegetable for you.
Smiles at her mommy, follows a balloon left and right, smiles, cries, likes music.
Gross fits when her mother and father leave.
Hates Shivo.
Looks at him with hatred.
I would, too.
I didn't want to allow him to do any brain scans on her.
They did some of the EKGs decades ago, and over a decade ago, and she had a lot of brain activity.
But this is how they operate.
Once he got them, tricked them to sign over everything to him, literally he went, mwahaha, and...
That's it.
No more care.
So she's been through a decade of living hell.
And, you know, Stalin said, an evil genius that he was, when one person dies, it's a tragedy.
The actual quote is, when one man dies, it's a tragedy.
When 10,000 die, it's a statistic.
And so...
Again, I do care about Terry.
I've been on this for four years.
People have been emailing me all last week going, why aren't you talking more about this?
Well, I mean, I have been.
I've been covering what's going on with it.
And we're going to have Leslie Smith on tomorrow to talk about people that are actually asking for food.
May I please have food?
Like this.
May I please have some water, honey?
And the nurses that get caught giving them water are fired, and they go ahead and kill the people.
So if you want to be upset about something, you can be upset about that, too.
You know, the media is giving us so much attention, and I knew why they were going to do it.
I said it about two weeks ago.
So Bush could flutter into the rescue, just like Jeb Bush did, and make it look like he's a good guy.
This is what evil people do.
They do some good and do these photo ops to then bind you to them.
You know, Bush cuts $87 million in abortion funding and then increases total abortion funding by $3 billion in the last four years.
So, you should be aware of that.
It's good that you deserve the credit for pressuring Bush and pressuring all these people to do this.
And what are the details?
This is out of the Associated Press.
Bush signs a bill that may let Schiavo live.
Harry Schiavo, again, Schindler, parents won the chance to plea for their daughter's life in a federal court when an extraordinary law passed in an emergency session of Congress yesterday.
That saw lawmakers choosing sides in an emotional family battle.
Well, this Mr. Schiavo isn't family.
He abandoned her.
President Bush signed the law almost immediately after its passage early Monday, vowing in a statement to stand on the side of those defending life for all Americans, including those with disabilities.
In cases like this one, where there are serious questions and substantial doubts, our society, our laws, and our courts should have a presumption in favor of life, the emperor said.
The law gave Schiavo's parents the right to file suit in federal court over the withdrawal of nourishment and medical treatment, and there should be an injunction right now needed to sustain the daughter who suffered severe brain damage.
She no longer is at vegetable, now at severe brain damage, which it's not.
She's paralyzed, folks.
A lawyer... I mean, I know people who've been in comas for five years that come out of it.
Some woman who was in one like 20-something years woke up and was having a great life walking around.
My uncle was in a coma for six weeks and wanted to kill him.
Now he's got two great children, happily married, and goes out and rides the fence line every morning.
A lawyer for the parents arrived at federal district court in Tampa, Florida, not long after Lord Bush signed the bill and filed a request for an emergency injunction to keep Shibo fed.
Her husband, who is not her husband, says Shibo told him that she wouldn't want to be kept alive in a vegetable state.
She's not in a vegetative state.
Her parents and many of the lawmakers backed the effort to restore the feeding tube, say she needs treatment and another opportunity for life.
Tonight we have given Terry Schiavo all we could, a chance to live, said House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, Republican, Texas.
After four days of words, the best of them uttered in prayer.
Congress has acted, and a life may be saved.
The bill passed the House early Monday.
That's today, after an often wrenching debate that stretched past midnight.
It won the backing of virtually all the Republicans and almost half the Democrats who sprinted back to the Capitol for the debate.
While 174 of the House's 435 elected members did not vote.
Meanwhile, 70% of Americans say Congress action was inappropriate.
That's because you're so dumbed down.
Congress is above the courts.
Congress is more powerful than the executive and...
It's a judicial.
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The perfect terrorist plan to level the Twin Towers created by the Pentagon in 1976.
Details are coming up.
Russian intelligence chief says Al-Qaeda a myth.
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Just on the Terry Schindler case, you know her as Shivo.
Here's a comment by one of the Republican congressmen, and I think he said it best.
Now he has her on a feeding tube, talking about Shivo, removed and sentenced her to a most excruciating death, citing Terry's own wishes as the rationales of Representative Jim Schindler.
I guess that's R-Y-U-N.
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Michael did not remember this supposed request until years after Terry's initial injuries when a cash settlement was awarded to her, a settlement he would stand to inherit.
And a few Democrats lobbed accusations at Republicans that political motives drove their passion for Shibo and her patients and her parents.
Well, I mean, in a way that's true.
I mean, Bush is getting involved in this.
His brother got involved.
They support the bioethics groups that are out pushing this stuff.
They support the abortion in their actions, not in their rhetoric.
They support the culture of death.
But because of the pressure that you and others, the listeners out there, have put on them, they're doing the right thing.
So we'll continue to talk about this a little bit later in the broadcast.
Of course, you're welcome to discuss it and talk about it if you'd like.
Now let's plunge into the latest 9-11 developments.
This is out of American Free Press.
It's on prisonplanet.com and infowars.com right now.
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The perfect terrorist plan to level the Twin Towers created in 1976.
Our own U.S.
Army devised a plan commissioned by Congress to bring down the WTC using commercial airliners and box cutters as weapons.
It's like Congress commissioned a million dollar study of how to mail weaponized anthrax through the mail in 1999.
They always openly fund it.
The laundry list of terrorist warnings handed to the Bush administration prior to 9-11 makes the President and others look like bumbling idiots or a bunch of conniving criminals responsible for the mass murders of the Twin Towers and in Afghanistan and Iraq.
These are the harsh words of Timothy McNiven, an outspoken critic of the President's handling of 9-11 and a 29-year U.S.
Department, Defense Department operative still under contract with the government.
He says not only did Bush administration purposefully and purposely ignore Al-Qaeda in the months preceding the WTC attacks, but the situation is even more disturbing, considering his military unit way back in 1976 devised a mock terror attack on the Twin Towers exactly like what occurred on 9-11.
It's like the super-secret weapons dossier proving Saddam and weapons of mass destruction that...
Colin Powell, held up in front of the U.N., turned out to be 12 years old, written by a graduate student.
The globalists are so lazy, they just pick and choose stuff.
McNiven, who first went public in an affidavit included in a 9-11-related federal conspiracy RICO lawsuit filed against President Bush and others in 2004, claims his unit was ordered to create the perfect terrorist plan, using commercial airliners as weapons and the Twin Towers as the target.
The publicized version of the study, commissioned by Congress, was to identify security lapses and submit corrective measures to the lawmakers.
However, McNiven claims the real purpose of the study was to brainstorm on how to pull off a perfect terrorist attack using the exact same 9-11 scenario.
The study commissioned by C-Battery, second...
Battalion 81st Field Artillery, U.S.
Army Station in Strasburg, Germany, in 1976, specifically devises a scenario of the Twin Towers being leveled by Middle Eastern terrorists using commercial airliners and even plastic box cutters to bypass security.
We'll finish up with this article.
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And we've got the author who broke this story coming on to talk to us.
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The publicized version of the study, talking about another government drill, another government study, of attacking the World Trade Center with hijacked jets, hijacked by men with box cutters, specifically box cutters, 1976.
See, these are scripts.
These are just the public stories.
The publicized version of the study commissioned by Congress was to identify security lapses and submit corrective measures to lawmakers.
However, McNibin claims the real purpose of the study was to brainstorm on how to pull off the perfect terrorist attack using the exact same 9-11 scenario.
The study commissioned by CBattery281.com
Field artillery, U.S.
Army stationed in Strasbourg, Germany in 76, specifically devised a scenario, the Twin Towers being leveled by Middle Eastern terrorists using commercial airliners and even plastic box cutters to bypass security.
The silence critics, McNiven has successfully passed a credible lie detector test regarding his participation in the study, as well as other specific orders given to him by his superiors in case of a real attack on the Twin Towers.
And he's released the documents.
The head of the 1976 mock terrorist plan was Lieutenant Michael Teague of Long Island, who McNiven says was given specific orders by higher-ups in the military to use the Twin Towers as the terrorist target.
McNiven said he was been unable to contact Lieutenant Teague, but was interested in his opinion now that the 9-11 attacks happened the way we planned them in 76.
I remember Lieutenant Teague changed the scenario of the supposed study from 100-story building to the Twin Towers, recalled McNiven, emphasizing what Lieutenant Teague was acting on specific orders from unknown superiors.
He then said he thought it was very strange to be asked to devise a plan to blow up your own hometown.
But as I watched the Twin Towers really collapse on the morning of September 11th, I realized I was watching the very same thing we devised in 1976.
Since that ominous realization, MacNiven has devoted his entire life to alerting the American public about the similarities between 9-11 and the 1976 study without much success.
Hey buddy, we just learned of it.
Don't worry, people are going to hear about it now.
His story basically being ignored by politicians and the mainstream media.
Why am I doing this?
Why have I spent every waking hour trying to bring the story to the American people?
Asked McNiven, claiming he still is following a strange direct military order given to him more than 25 years ago.
During the course of the terrorist plan we were devising, I made the statement to Lieutenant Teague that if the WTC was ever attacked like we planned, I'd go public.
I was then physically assaulted and told never to reveal anything we were doing regarding the Twin Towers.
However, about a week later, a strange turn of events occurred.
For no apparent reason, McDonough claims his superiors completely changed their minds.
I was given the direct order that if the Twin Towers were ever attacked, the way we discussed in the 76th study, I was to do everything in my power to bring the similarities to the attention of the American people.
Well, that's because higher-ups were upset about the plan and didn't want you to go public.
I have no idea why they changed their minds, but I was then emphatically told that this order was never to be rescinded.
Because those who would rescind it would be the very same people who turned against the American people.
Besides taking a lot of texture to verify his story, McNiven...
Has made public a detailed list of about 40 names of individuals who took part in the mock terrorist plan, including Colonel Robert Morrison, Major Joe DiPrio, Sergeant Middleton, Sergeant Arroyo, and many others.
There were also people from the Defense Department and the CIA who were monitoring the study.
But I wasn't able to get their names, he added.
Some of McNiven's most recent assignments with the Defense Department included work on the Northwest Drug Task Force.
That's right, the militaries involved in America, folks.
And various other drug smuggling and weapons trafficking cases.
Very credible, and I was talking to the reporter, Greg Szymanski, who's going to be joining us, and then later in the week we're going to be getting Mr. McNiven on.
Greg Szymanski's gotten some of the documents, and we're going to get all those up on the web.
Now, I'm about 90% sure this case is real.
It frankly doesn't really matter.
We have the admitted official U.S.
government plan, Operation Northwoods.
And Operation Northwoods is confirmed, is public, ABC News, Baltimore Sun, Associated Press, Reuters, London Guardian.
We have copies of it in all three of my 9-11 films, including the new one.
And it says, we'll hijack jets by remote control, crash them, we'll bomb D.C., commit sniper attacks.
We'll attack Marine Corps bases with our own troops, blame it on foreign enemies.
We'll kill astronauts or let them die and then blame it on foreigners.
And then we have the LBJ tapes released about a year and a half ago from right here in Austin at the LBJ Presidential Library and Museum.
I found articles back in 1964 in the San Diego papers and others where it came out that our ships...
We're never attacked in the Gulf of Tonkin.
And so we knew this, and we knew that this had been in the news, but now we have two different tapes.
I've aired them here.
They're on the website.
Directly from the LBJ Library website.
Presidential Library Museum.
And it actually says, on the tape, he's arguing with McNamara, griping at him, and he goes, you told me, he's at the ranch...
In Johnson City, outside Austin, by Fredericksburg.
Why am I giving you so much detail?
That doesn't matter.
LBJ's on the phone talking to McNamara, Defense Secretary, and he says, I thought we were attacked!
Well, Mr. President, I kind of, you know, well, no, we weren't.
We were up there actually attacking them, and they didn't even shoot back.
Well, we've told the press this, and now they're on to the fact that it wasn't attacked.
Those are the news articles that have come out.
And so you're going to be at press conferences, and you better go ahead, Mr. President, and tell them we were attacked.
That's just the way it is.
The President goes, all right, then, that's what I'll do.
And McNamara is kind of subservient, but they're at the end kind of, hey, this is the way it is.
Okay, I'll do what you say.
All righty then.
Thank you very much.
You hear the next call.
All right, Johnny, he's talking to some admiral.
Next call, Pentagon.
Got this story straight.
Don't know how you're going to deal with it.
Of course, every time the tape rolls around, it goes... I mean, you can listen to it off their website.
It's pretty crisp.
By the time we play it over the air and those other satellites, it's pretty bad audio.
But it's all admitted.
I mean, they release thousands of hours of this stuff.
And then the president goes ahead and gets on the phone and calls everybody up and makes sure they know what the story is.
That's why that guy had so many heart attacks and ulcers.
I mean, he worked all the time.
I mean, one night I listened to about six hours of it.
You get to listen.
I started listening at about ten.
Went to bed about four.
And I was just listening.
Oh, C-SPAN played it, too.
That's where I first learned of it.
I knew about the tapes.
I knew they'd released them.
But how do you listen to 3,000 hours?
C-SPAN grabbed those very clips.
So I was actually listening off C-SPAN's site like six hours of it.
It was just hours of him calling up different generals and admirals, getting the story straight.
But see how I digress?
Got a little bit of a sore throat today, so bear with me, folks.
It's allergies.
So this is what they're doing.
And it's the same thing over and over again.
But why do they have people have these drills?
Why do they do this?
Well, there's a bunch of different reasons.
But I talked about it earlier in the broadcast.
Right before 9-11, I saw an Associated Press article where they said that over $40 million was spent per year with a secret office in Hollywood, California, out in L.A.,
And that top screenwriters, top scriptwriters were paid millions to write scripts every year for the last decade.
Now that'd be 14 years.
To write scenarios of terrorists attacking America.
So, on the surface, so the Pentagon would be able to think creatively and see how terrorists might attack us.
And then we have this report, with the documents and the lie detector test and all of it, by an individual who admittedly is still working for the Pentagon, this academic, academic now, of how the terrorists, the aero-terrorists, would use box cutters to take control of aircraft and fly them into the World Trade Center towers.
Now, why do they do this?
Because they war game, ladies and gentlemen,
And they need scripts to enter into the war games and into their statistical analysis that's gotten a lot more sophisticated since 1976.
It was very similar to insurance company actuaries and prime, they call it projecting, and different analysis they were doing back then.
Now it's much more sophisticated with these Cray arrays and raids of supercomputers.
Arrays of raids, as they call them.
These giant, just whole buildings full of these computers.
And so they take all this and they punch it in and do different analysis of how you'll respond.
And they had different Pentagon groups and different military groups all over the country doing drills.
They still have them all doing drills and writing up scenarios.
Then the brains, because the brains, the 170 IQ eggheads that actually come up with all these plans and decide what plans to go with, they know, though, that thousands of individuals working on different scenarios are going to come up with ideas they would have never thought of.
And then they kind of cherry-pick the different ideas.
Also, it creates plausible deniability, because when the military-industrial complex, who has the motives for these attacks...
Then you look at the evidence, they're clearly behind these attacks, carries out an attack, and if it ever comes out, they'll just say, oh no, we were just running a drill of that.
If they get caught actually carrying the attack out, they just say it's a coincidence, it was just a drill.
Just like on 9-11, they got caught running the drills.
Of flying hijacked jets in the World Trade Center and Pentagon at the very same time in the morning with the same flight paths.
I mean, it's totally impossible.
But they just say, yeah, yeah, it was a drill.
Just a drill.
That's all it is.
Just a drill.
Nothing more, nothing less.
Oh, sure, I believe you.
We all just go back to sleep.
But it contradicts them, though.
They said they never heard of a plan to fly planes into buildings.
Now there are literally hundreds of cases and hundreds of government documents and hundreds of these different drills that they had of exactly this happening.
So, folks, they had a fixation on flying jets into the towers because you fly one plane into one tower, everybody aims their news cameras, billions of people globally tune in.
Then, now that billions are tuned in, another plane right on time hits, people see it in real time, then we cut to Bush...
And the school still... Now remember, he was in the green room and saw the first tower smoking.
Percy denied that, but the Times of London released the photos of him looking at the first tower smoking.
Normally a president would cancel any speech over something like that.
But instead he goes out for the photo op with all the news cameras, with the image of children around him.
That sells the psychology that we're all children and he's the father figure.
We've already learned of it.
Twenty minutes goes by for the second plane.
We're all totally in shock watching him.
They're cutting back and forth between him and the towers.
What is our daddy going to do?
And it cuts.
He learns and looks very upset.
But still, he doesn't get up.
Because he can't.
Because then they'll say, Mr. President, shoot the plane down, the one going to the Capitol.
And then he was hoping that plane would have gotten to the Capitol, but the Pentagon wouldn't have disregarded orders and gone ahead and shot the plane down.
They were under orders three months before that they could no longer shoot planes down.
They always had that authority that was taken from them by Dick Cheney and Rumsfeld three months before, June 1st.
We have that memorandum in the new film.
And so then the other events could take place.
The Pentagon, Pennsylvania.
All while we're watching our great leader.
It was all scripted.
And you better be concerned about this, because they've scripted smallpox releases in Oklahoma, martial law in Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Missouri, Kansas.
They've scripted attacks in California, where of course the governor saves everyone.
Oh boy.
We've got all these scripted attacks, and then when they happen exactly as I scripted them, of course there'll be a drill of the exact same thing happening at the exact same time in case any good cops were to catch them.
And we'll just have to sit here and watch them kill a bunch of us as usual and then pose as our saviors on the nightly news.
Alright, I'm sorry I've been running on here, but it's important stuff.
Kim, where are you calling us from?
I'm calling from Texas.
I was at a rap concert yesterday during the day, Alex, here in Dallas.
And it was a great concert.
You know, everybody had kids there because it was a car show also.
And we walk out of the building after like, I guess, three or four hours of the concert, and there are policemen in riot gear.
I could not believe it.
And you had to go.
You couldn't just walk out and just walk in any direction.
You had to walk a certain way.
Down through the grass, everybody was trying to stay on the sidewalk.
But no, this one young white cop was like, hey, hey, hey, you guys on the grass, get on the grass.
You know, he was just being ill mannered.
And I said, and he happened to look at my daughter and say, and I said, wait a minute, that's my child.
You don't have to talk to her that way.
You can say, excuse me, everybody, we need you to go this direction, right?
Oh, he got irate with me because I...
I question him.
Did you question a god?
I question a god.
Listen, haven't you ever read the great tragedies?
Mortals are not allowed to address gods.
Alex, they got even worse.
I said, what is this, Nazi Germany?
I said, what are we in, Nazi Germany?
Are you an SS trooper?
What's going on?
You know, and he's like, ma'am, do you just need to keep walking?
I said, no, I can talk to you.
I said, I don't know if you're a little young rookie cop or what, but I can talk to you.
No, man, you need to keep going, keep going.
I said, no, I have my constitutional rights, and I can talk to you.
And then he takes out his mace.
I said, oh, you're going to mace me because I'm talking to you?
I'm not in his face now, Alex.
But I'm talking to him, and I'm like, you're going to mace me?
For what reason?
And he just looked at me.
He was paralyzed, I guess, because I continued to question him.
And this older, well, I don't know, he was an older officer, white guy, E-5, but he had a sergeant's strike.
And I said, you should go ahead and talk to this guy, because he's out of control.
Well, let me tell you something.
So you go to the car show that's also got some live music.
It's like a rodeo here.
It's got rap music.
I guess we should send the police.
But look, stay there.
We'll talk about this, Kim.
This is important.
This happens everywhere now.
I mean, when we have a parade...
They call out the armored police.
And it's about letting us know who our masters are.
And it's only getting worse and worse.
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Alright, coming into the next hour, I'm going to go right to your calls.
Then we've got a guest coming up to talk about, well, 1976 Pentagon plans.
The perfect terrorist attack.
Even with box cutters, same targets.
More and more evidence of how long term they plan all of this.
When they just take old plans and mix them up with new plans.
But real quick, finishing up, Kim, I wanted to add this point.
A few weeks ago I aired this on my TV show, so it's on prisonplanet.tv, and it was troops in Galveston for the Mardi Gras.
And the show was just peaceful, happy, drunk crowds.
Never had any problems early down there for Mardi Gras.
And it just says, oh, we no longer have the police here.
We have the military.
And it shows the military yelling at people, shoving crowds, getting in everybody's face, marching around.
It's all about letting you know who the new rulers are.
It's like the Red Sox.
A few crowds of people refused to disperse.
No riots that first night until they started shooting people with rubber bullets.
Shot that Snellgrove girl in the face at 10 feet away.
Killed her.
She'd done nothing wrong.
She's dead now.
So, no, they've told him, let them know, control them, get in their face.
It's for their own good.
And so it's just more of the same, Kim.
Anything else?
Yeah, they had a police helicopter just circling.
And I'm like, look at all this tax dollars and money just blown away.
This man is just circling.
Well, that's because they're worried there'd be a riot, or they're worried that there'd be gang activity and somebody do something, which could happen.
But having, you know...
Hundreds of police in riot gear isn't going to do anything to stop that if it does.
Five o'clock in the afternoon?
Well, no, I understand.
Look, look, look, look.
We have little Second Amendment rallies, and cops show up, and they're getting in people's faces.
I mean, it's bad.
Well, we're the enemy.
We're the enemy, Kim.
We've got to be kept in line.
My daughter equated.
She said, am I in South Africa?
Is this apartheid?
You know, she said that's how she felt.
I said, well, I'm older.
I felt like I was leaving a Black Panther rally.
And something was supposed to happen that didn't happen?
Well, you've got to know that they do this to everybody now.
See, I haven't been out in a while, and it's just incredible that you would want children to see that.
And the guy said, you know, I kept saying, what about our Constitution?
He said...
What about our Constitution?
I think, yeah, we don't have one anymore, and I'm using my Constitution.
Yeah, they always say that.
It's weird.
It's like, what about us?
Yeah, I know.
It's real weird.
Thanks for the call.
And then if you told him, hey, I pay your salary, he'd say, no, I pay taxes.
I pay my salary.
No, it's all about protecting themselves from us.
We're so dangerous.
Meanwhile, more federal officers have been killed on the border, but that doesn't stop Vicente Fox and Bush from wanting to go after the Minutemen that are down there protecting their own property.
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All right, my friends, we're now into the second hour of this March 21, 2005 edition.
Coming up, writer for American Free Press, Greg Szymanski, will be joining us.
The perfect terrorist plan to level the Twin Towers, created by the government, the Pentagon, in 1976, including the same targets, men with box cutters, you name it.
This is a big story because it shows the premeditated planning of the globalists.
It's coming up here in a few minutes.
A bunch of other news about Terry Schiavo.
Russian intelligence chief says Al-Qaeda a myth.
New Guantanamo Bay torture information.
George Bush protecting Bill Clinton, blocking out documents, and Clinton says, Thanks a lot, Bush.
I remember us back at MENA.
I really appreciate it.
But right now, let's go ahead and go back to your calls.
Amanda in Colorado, thanks for holding.
Hi, Alex.
Go ahead.
How are you doing today?
Pretty good, thank you.
I am originally from Mississippi, and I have been looking at your pictures on the website of the Mississippi camp and the DeSoto National Forest.
Well, I told a friend of mine about it that still lives there, because I've only been gone for a couple of years, and she wrote the DeSoto National Forest, and she received a letter back.
And they claim that it is to train Iraqis.
Well, not to train Iraqis, to train American forces to deal with Iraqis in Iraq.
Well, there was a number on there, and I called him this morning, and I can give you the number if you would like it.
His name is Larry Walters.
He's the military liaison.
Listen, listen.
That stuff's been on the site for about 40 years, 5 years.
And they can tell you whatever they want.
We have video of Fort Polk, Louisiana, with the foreign troops trying to put Americans in camps.
I have video that I shot myself in California.
We have video in Hebron, Maryland.
Video in Alabama, North Carolina.
And notice they have the signs in Slavic.
And of course it doubles as a training camp as well.
And I told him that.
He told me that on the sign that the sign was Iraqi writing.
And I told him no it wasn't because I was looking at the picture on my computer right now.
And he asked me how I got a picture of it.
And I didn't want to tell him where I got it from.
But he swore up and down that it was Iraqi writing.
And I told him no it's not Russian.
And I told him I wanted to know why Russian writing was on there.
And I also told him that I have video in Austin or outside of Austin.
Where they are training, and also they hired actors.
He wrote her in the letter because she's going to mail me the letter.
And he told her they hired actors.
Yeah, look, I've been to ten of these myself, more than that.
They use the camp for drills to put us in it.
It's true.
And maybe this guy's a useful idiot and doesn't know what they're doing there.
Yeah, I'll tell you what, off air, off air, off air, give me his name and number, and maybe I'll get him on as a guest.
Okay, his name is Larry Walters.
Yeah, I know.
We're going to get that off of you right now, okay?
Put you on hold, Amanda.
Thank you.
Let's talk to Ross in Ohio.
Get her info for me.
Ross in Ohio, go ahead.
Yes, you mentioned the United Nations earlier.
I've been doing extensive research and into the
Go on to the Library of Congress website, loc.gov, and look this up.
Call up your congressmen and tell them to support this bill to the fullest extent.
I mean, this UN crap has got to go.
They are completely anti-gun, globalistic education, taxation schemes, the whole line of stuff, pro-abortion elitists.
Well, all Bush has done is said we've got to legitimize the U.N., and he's increased their funding, so you've got to talk to all the mindless so-called conservatives out there that think Bush is conservative.
We'll be right back.
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Thanks for the call, Ross.
Rita and others, we'll get to you, Ray, as well.
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All right, a new 9-11 development that's big.
The perfect terrorist plan to level the Twin Towers, created in 1976.
And if you go to prisonplanet.com or infowars.com, you can link through to American Free Press.
Our own U.S.
Army devised a plan commissioned by Congress to bring down the WTC using commercial airliners and box cutters as weapons.
A laundry list of terrorist warnings...
Handed to the Bush administration prior to 9-11, makes the president and others look like bumbling idiots or a bunch of conniving criminals responsible for the mass murders at the Twin Towers and in Afghanistan and Iraq.
These are the harsh words of Timothy McNiven, an outspoken critic of the president's handling of 9-11 and a 29-year U.S.
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He says, not only did the Bush administration purposely ignore Al-Qaeda in the months preceding the WTC attacks, but the situation is even more disturbing, considering the military unit, way back in 76, devised a mock terrorist attack of the Twin Towers, exactly like what happened on 9-11, including using commercial airliners to be flown into the towers and plastic box cutters.
And we're going to also later in the week get Timothy McNiven on the broadcast.
Right now, Greg Szymanski joins us.
And Greg, good to have you on with us.
Nice to be with you, Alex.
Thanks for having me.
I know you're out there at court today, and so you're via the telephone.
Via the cell phone with us, but...
You write for American Free Press.
You're involved in a lot of other truth-seeking out there.
Bring this up to speed in a thumbnail sketch and go over more details for us.
Regarding Timothy, Timothy had contacted me through email first.
I imagine he had read some of my articles and basically laid out what you just mentioned on the radio.
But he mentioned it in this way, and he said basically that he's tried to get his story out now for over a year and a half, unsuccessful with much of the media, all the media for that fact.
And basically asked me if I would just listen to him.
So I read his whole story.
Timothy's name sounded familiar, and I remember about a year and a half or two years ago I was working on a story with the lawsuit in Philadelphia filed by Attorney Philip Berg against Bush and his cronies, a RICO lawsuit.
And Timothy's name is in there, and he filed an affidavit telling his story to
He's provided me with the documents.
I don't have them with me so I can't give you the name of the company.
But I will say that it is a credible company that does... Now, I understand.
I saw this story yesterday.
I called you this morning.
You're at court.
But we're going to have you back on, and I'd like to have you back on with Timothy McNiven as well as soon as possible.
And, of course, we'll also put links to and post all these documents as well.
But again...
I've interviewed Mr. Berg.
I've interviewed Ellen Mariani, the first person on the suit.
So I was familiar with some of this.
Now we've got the details.
This is stuff that Berg wasn't talking about.
But, I mean, let's go over this.
Yeah, well, let me explain what Timothy first told me.
He said that, basically, he was in a military unit in Strasbourg, Germany, back in 1976.
And in this unit, and I list the name of the specific unit in the article, in this unit, basically there were some 30 to 40 to 50 people, and one day his lieutenant came in and said that they had been commissioned by Congress to discuss domestic airline security.
And to put together their recommendations on how to improve airline security back in 1976.
Well, he said, you know, a week or two went by, then all of a sudden his lieutenant, who I mentioned, and I can't remember his name right now, comes in and tells him that he has been ordered to use the Twin Towers as examples
And now what they were going to do is to use the Middle East as another example, as terrorists, and to put together a plan to bring down the Twin Towers.
Now, McVeigh said that the lieutenant said it was awfully strange, he thought, that he was asked to blow up buildings in his own hometown.
He was from Long Island, New York.
So that was the beginning of it.
You mean McNiven?
Well, the lieutenant told McNiven that he felt it was strange and kind of probably kidding and joking that he now has to blow up his own hometown because he was from New York.
That was the lieutenant.
Well, anyway, they then sit down and put together this plan.
Timothy came up exactly, he says, came up with the box cutter idea.
And they put together a day-by-day brainstorming, a plan on how to bring down the towers using airliners, terrorists from the Middle East, of course.
They were just using mock terrorists, things like that.
And one day Timothy went up to, when they were talking and brainstorming, he went to his lieutenant and said to him,
Well, what if this really happens?
I think I might go and tell somebody what we're doing.
What if this really does happen?
Because you can imagine, if you're in a situation like that, if you ever brainstorm an idea, it becomes real to you.
And so it isn't far-fetched for him to say something like that to his lieutenant.
His lieutenant then accosted him along with the sergeant and told him bluntly,
Never to say anything about this report.
Your article says physically assaulted.
What did they do to him?
Well, basically, they slapped him around a little bit, took him by the arm.
You might ask Timothy specifically on what happened.
Well, it's funny because when we have the USS Liberty survivors on, the most decorated ship in U.S.
history, when they were finally called on board the ship after the U.S.
and Israel had basically engineered an attack to sink it and blame it on Egypt, but they couldn't sink it,
They called him on board, and they said, we're going to put you in prison for the rest of your life if you tell anybody what you know, or worse.
So they do do this, but go ahead.
Well, anyway, a strange turn of events then.
About two weeks later, Timothy said that he was approached by the lieutenant, and the name again is in the article, and the lieutenant took him aside and did an about-face, and basically said to Timothy, listen,
I'm going to put you under strict orders right now.
If anything is to ever happen like this in the future, you are to go and tell about this report.
And this is Lieutenant Michael Teague.
Teague probably, what Timothy said, has had a change of heart.
He said to keep it quiet.
I'm going to put you under direct order for the rest of your life that if anything ever happens with the Twin Towers, you are to let...
The world know about this report.
Now, not only has he said this in federal court, not only is this under lie detector tests, you checked him out, he's still doing work for the Pentagon.
Well, you know, he was still doing work about a couple years ago.
Yeah, up until 9-11.
Yeah, he was doing some work in some drug undercover units, things like that.
So he basically was under contract.
Presently, I'm not sure exactly to this date if he's doing anything.
Well, I mean, the M.O.
on counter-drug activities is part of these task forces.
That's basically military intelligence.
So basically what he said is that he still feels obligated to tell his story based on the fact when he saw the Twin Towers come down, he said, Oh my God, this is exactly what we did.
You mean Lieutenant Teague?
No, I know you're at court on a cell phone.
Yeah, I don't have my documents in front of me.
But anyway, I am going to try to locate him.
And he also lists about 40 or 50 other people by name, specifically, that were in his unit that will verify this.
So hopefully... And he's done this in sworn testimony in court.
So he's gone to jail if this wasn't true, yeah.
Yes, I mean, he has sworn an affidavit in federal court.
Which was the same veracity as if he was sitting in a courtroom before a federal judge.
Well, let me just stop you right there.
This is the same M.O.
We know they were running drills on the morning of 9-11.
We know they were the exact same thing happening that happened.
We know they were running drills two weeks before, six months before, a year and a half before.
We know this.
And they love these drills because then if their people get caught trying to carry them out, they say, oh, it's just a drill.
It's like...
The Moscow bombings in 99, three apartment buildings get blown up, FSB get caught planting hexogen in the fourth building by Moscow police, and so then they declare, oh, it was just part of a drill.
Right, right.
Now, when you talk to Timothy, you'll find that he's tried his best to tell the truth.
He went to a lie detector test.
Of course, he's had no luck with the mainstream media to get his story out.
And in fact, I believe at this particular juncture my next step is going to be to try to find a few of these other people.
And see if anybody else will talk.
Well, I mean, it was American Free Press that first reported on how rescue workers at the towers said they found three of the four data recorders.
Yeah, that's the story I worked on.
Yeah, and then it was in the Philadelphia Daily News.
They confirmed it.
So the mainstream media continues to try to ignore the stuff that you and I and many others have been digging up.
Yeah, and you know what?
I mean, a story like the black box story, which I talked to both the gentlemen, well, one of the gentlemen, one's not really talking, but his name is Mike Bologna, who was actually there.
He told me basically this, that he saw the boxes.
He was then told by FBI agents who came up to him later to keep his mouth shut.
And I reported that.
I then called the 9-11 Commission, who says they've never talked to... Well, they said, well, I don't know if we talked to this guy.
Well, Bologna said that the 9-11 Commission never... But then the Philadelphia Daily News went and did talk to him.
Yeah, and I talked with him, too.
And I talked to the guy, too, and he told me this exact story.
Well, about a week later, I get a couple of phone calls from people saying that I'm way... I hadn't written a story yet, and I think they were planted calls, but someone called me and said, you know, he never said that to those agents, and you better not print anything like that.
And I said, you know something?
I am printing it because he told it to me, you know.
Stay there, Greg Szymanski.
We're honored to have you.
This is a big story.
We'll be right back on the other side of this quick break, and your calls are coming up as well.
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We appreciate him spending the time with us.
He's broken a lot of big stories for American Free Press, and they've all panned out.
This latest one is right from federal court documents.
government going out and getting these different scenarios, these specific scenarios,
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Greg, we see this over and over and over again.
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How do you see this coupling with the Northwoods document?
Well, it's basically just more evidence showing that there was knowledge, prior knowledge, and will lend evidence to more specific, more...
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...to implicate mafia members in order to easily prosecute them.
Well, now Berg's turned around and used this against the government, and basically they're acting basically exactly like a mafia attorney would act.
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But the nice thing about it is that Berg's lawsuit can take information from back in 1976 and tie it together to show there is a conspiracy.
One thing, you can go civilly and criminally.
And in my experience, over the few years I've done the 9-11 stories and everything, if I was an attorney presented with this information, there's plenty of information to at least go to court with these people.
Well, there is a huge fixation with hijacking jets and flying them into buildings, not just by this administration, but administration after administration.
We know the FBI cooked the bomb.
I think it's a symbol of our freedom, and it's a symbol of our financial rise to power.
If you knock down the trade centers...
It's like cutting off your legs, cutting off America's legs.
It was a good example of frightening the hell out of people.
That's why they hit the Pentagon.
That's a good example.
If they can get to our military, they can get to you.
If they can get to our financial institutions, they can get to you.
Now, the real mistake I think people are making is to think that it's just that these people just all of a sudden came into being in the year 2000 when Bush was appointed, I should mention, president.
It's my feeling that he is not
The real president of this country.
I don't think in this election or the last election he was put in office fairly.
Now, that's aside.
But listen, these people have been around a long, long time.
And they've been fighting since the early 70s to get this movement in.
Well, I've got congressional hearings from the mid-80s where they're talking about concentration camps in Congress for the American people.
Yeah, of course.
And there's one little story that a lot of people... I wrote this story and I have not had any feedback on it, but people have to listen to this one fact about Bush I, the first Bush president.
He goes on record in 1988 as stating that his first...
Affiliation with the CIA when he was appointed director, I believe, in 74 or 76.
Well, there came out a document, one document that was declassified, whether it was a mistake or not.
It was a letter from J. Edgar Hoover written in Hoover's hand to a George H. Bush in 1963 asking him about the Bay of Pigs and how things were going.
Well, it's admitted they have the offshore drilling rigs.
It's admitted he was involved with the CIA.
I mean, that's a public secret.
Now, here's the deal, though.
The interesting thing is Bush in 1988 went on record.
On record.
He was asked this question.
Were you ever in the CIA back in 1963?
His answer was this.
It must have been another George H. Bush that he was writing to.
It wasn't me.
So basically, he had one of the ships that was used in the Bay of Pigs was named the Barbra.
One of the covert ships.
And he had a history of naming his airplanes Barbara 1 and Barbara 2, of course, after the First Lady.
So, you know something, what I'm getting at is that there's so much that needs to be investigated.
And I think there needs to be a comment made about the way people look at the mainstream media and the way people look at the alternative media now.
Now, I come from the background of the mainstream media.
Stay there.
Stay there, Greg.
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Greg, tell folks about your website.
Not just American Free Press, but your website.
Well, my website, I put it together basically.
I put out about four months worth of articles at a time.
And these will go back to November.
And basically it's called www.arcticbeacon.citymaker.com.
And I list my stories and also a new publication.
It lists the outline of a new publication I'm putting together, which will have offices in Alaska and California, called The Arctic Beacon, The Last Frontier Truth.
Why do you call it The Arctic Beacon?
Well, basically, I call it The Arctic Beacon because I'm very concerned about what's happening up there.
I have friends in Alaska.
I'm very close to the environment as far as
I've done a lot of stories on it, and I feel very close to the... Gotcha, but you also cover 9-11.
Yes, I do 9-11, and also, basically, I like to say any story that merits coverage should be done.
Now, you've produced a documentary, have you not?
Well, I've produced a 9-11 Citizens Commission report, which is a print version.
It's a 24-page...
I guess where I got confused is there's a video by almost the same name.
Yeah, no, that's not me.
I have not done one.
However, I am in the process of beginning this publication, which is probably too long to go into specifics.
Well, we need to get you on when that comes up.
But you heard me a few minutes ago say, I'll come right out and I'll show you how 9-11 took place.
Now, I'm going to say this, and this is from years of study.
I talked about 9-11 two months before it happened.
I said they're going to blame it on Bin Laden.
They're going to attack the World Trade Center, call the White House, tell Bush don't do it.
I've never said call the White House since, or before or after that.
I don't just put these alerts out.
Let me break down what happened on 9-11, and you can disagree if you want.
You've got these Arabs...
We're good to go.
From there, they are taking part in the weeks before 9-11, and this has been confirmed, quote, in test flights, in other drills, in real-world drills where they're on board aircraft.
The Pentagon is told it's a drill.
This is all admitted.
So is NORAD.
They get on board the aircraft.
A few of these fake phone calls are staged, and they can show Steve McQueen pitching Mustangs 25 years in the grave.
They then...
Send out those phone calls.
They're knocked out on board.
The planes are then flown by remote control.
Now, that's what all the evidence shows.
You'd have to be a conspiracy theorist to not say that's what happened.
Well, put it this way, Alex.
Your story is much better than the government's story.
And to at this point pinpoint one way,
I think, you know, I can't say that, but I would say that most of the things you have said, I would have to have verified in doing this 9-11 commission report that we've done recently that's out for nationwide publication.
So basically, one, I would compliment you on not mincing words and telling it the way it is.
Now, if things are a little different, I mean, that's only what the truth is.
It's an evolving process, and that's the reason why
I hope, hopefully, one of these court cases will take hold so that the truth can come out.
But let me tell you this, and to verify what you just said.
NORAD and all that stuff that went on that day, it's just abominable.
And the real interesting fact about 9-11 is the cover-up afterwards, which makes me believe that what you say is more truthful.
We're good to go.
I became very suspicious.
FAA breaking federal law, shredding the tapes.
On and on and on and on.
And the 9-11 Commission.
We have an article in our 9-11 Commission report.
It's a history of...
Presidential commissions.
And they're all a bunch of, I would say, BS.
From day one, from Pearl Harbor all the way through Kennedy to this one.
Listen, they first tried to have Henry Kissinger run it.
I mean, most of the people on the commission were in business with the Carlaw Group or, in the case of Chairman Keene, with the Bin Laden family members.
But let's just go through this calmly here because this is important.
Continuing that the FBI cooked the bomb, trained the drivers, and bombed the World Trade Center the first time.
We know they were running drills that morning.
We know they were targeting the World Trade Center and Pentagon.
We know Cheney was in control.
We know that Cheney took control three months before from the shoot-down orders from the Pentagon.
Hundreds and hundreds and hundreds.
We know the hijackers were trained at Pensacola Naval Air Station.
We know their houses, cars, credit cards were paid for.
We know they'd leave the country, be on terrorist watch lists, and the State Department would order the embassies to let them back in and even told the head of one embassy, yeah, this is for terror training.
We know Hollywood people like James Woods were on board aircraft a week before with Muhammad Atta.
He tells the FBI they're trying to hijack planes.
And then they say, shut your mouth, national security.
I mean, we know what happened.
Yeah, Alex, you present.
Those things you say, I have to agree with you.
I want to see this thing pushed.
I want somehow for the American people in our heartland, in the place where we need to get groundswell support to really put these guys' foots to the fire and have them questioned.
That's the point.
We must do it.
And I appreciate your work.
And it can't be forgotten.
Do you think they'll ever be brought to justice?
Do I think so?
You know, I'm an eternal optimist.
And to say no would be to defeating every purpose
For every reason that I continue writing this story.
Because I believe that people together, although we are all imperfect in a sense, if we work hard, if we strive to find what happened, we will.
But if we forget about it and give up, we won't.
So it's now in the court of basically a small amount of people, and it's up to us to bring this forward.
Because once you listen to the facts, once you read and take time
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Your country, basically in my step, you've got one foot right now into fascism and we need to act quickly.
Let me just bolster what you just said.
Even if they don't ever go to prison for the mass murder they committed, by exposing and getting the idea in people's minds that who stands to gain from terror, then that could back the globalists off where they won't have the nerve to carry out another attack.
Well, I always said sometimes the court of public opinion is much more effective than a court of law.
And hopefully the court of public opinion will rise to a point...
Well, there's two ways to look at this.
We know 110% the government had total prior knowledge, opened all the doors, protected the so-called hijackers.
Now, you can look at that view that they knew it and let it happen.
Or you can look at the other view that they engineered it and the official stories of fraud.
And it has to be the second, because how does al-Qaeda make NORAD stand down?
How does al-Qaeda run drills that morning?
How does al-Qaeda have all the evidence shredded?
How does al-Qaeda do all of this?
Or, Alex, it could be a combination of the two amongst a number of people.
I'm not saying the whole government.
A very tiny criminal group did this.
And I believe that you're probably right on, because NORAD's stand down there is unbelievable.
And for one, nobody to be even reprimanded for this is unbelievable.
And that's one reason I have to fall into that third category, that it wasn't just complicity.
It was actually helping this thing along.
And providing the exact time and date.
And just look at one thing.
The most heavily traveled airspace in the world, and this has been said a million times, how can a plane fly an hour around Washington and blow up the Pentagon?
And then they say they have no pictures of it.
And if you represent a defendant in a criminal case and stole the razor blade,
You've got 10 photos of every angle of him taking the razor blade out of a Target grocery store or Target supermarket.
Do you understand my point?
Well, the most surveilled area in the world, admittedly, is the Pentagon in Laney, Virginia, with the CIA, but they don't have any evidence.
Right, and I did a story about the only piece of airplane on the front lawn of the Pentagon that was photographed by...
Army or Navy photographer, he's unavailable for comment about that photograph.
One of the reporters that said he saw the plane hit, turns out was one of the guys on the government payroll.
Yeah, of course.
I want to see, just like you don't see pictures of Atah in Boston, I want to see pictures of that plane hitting the Pentagon, since you have...
This is not national security.
What's the national security about showing you the plane that you say you, the government, say hit the Pentagon?
Show me.
That's all I'm saying.
Greg, wherever you're at is good.
Your phone was cutting out a few minutes ago.
Wherever you're at is very good.
Oh, good.
Oh, I just started up again.
That's all right.
Again, Greg was at court today working on some legal procedures down there and is joining us via cell phone.
Let's go ahead and take a few calls here.
I'm sure these will be all over the map, but that's okay.
Let's go ahead.
Who's up first here?
Rita in Chicago.
Rita, you're on the air.
Go ahead.
Hi, Alex.
I called before your guest was on.
I think he's great and everything.
But, you know, the thing is, I think the priority now is less 9-11, after I heard your interview with Mr. DeCamp, because whether you're a liberal or conservative, you can be anti-pedophile.
And I think you get them all, all the way back to Reagan and Bush and everybody in between and international leaders.
Well, we don't have Reagan involved in all this.
Well, it's 89, right?
Yeah, that's Bush Sr.
We do have mainstream news, call boys, underage, in the White House.
And then what do you do?
You take the testimony of the prostitute and you ask them what's really going on?
Does that work in court?
Let me bring that up to Greg.
Greg, I mean, I'm sure we don't just have fake reporters.
We have fake reporters who are male prostitutes in the White House.
Well, you know something?
The Gannon story, I haven't even bothered to... I know the story, and it's something that needs to be followed up in depth, because this is a travesty.
But put it this way, Alex.
None of this stuff surprises me.
And let me tell you something.
Don't be surprised.
None of this stuff does.
Because the people that are crying out, the media hasn't done a job.
The media has never really done a good job.
They've done a little better jobs at times.
But now it's coming to the forefront only because it's consolidated.
There's only a few owners involved, and now you're seeing there's little voice, even in small-town America or in places where normally you would get a second voice.
But the media acting this way doesn't surprise me, because the media at the levels of the Washington Post, the New York Times, the St.
Louis... I work for ABC, Cap Cities, a number of different newspapers.
I know the way the game is played.
And let me tell you this.
It's only gotten worse.
You're not going to get freedom of the press and the media.
Maybe there's pictures of that with the little boy, and that's why they're doing what they're doing.
So if we start looking at them all as pedophiles, I don't think they can stand up to that.
They're dug in on 9-11.
They're not going to give anything.
Dan Gannon is just really another tool of the Bush propaganda machine that is well-oiled and ready to basically write the story about the videotapes they're now putting out to all these TV stations.
Yeah, we've got to break the fake news reports.
And just saying, yeah, we're going to do it.
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I was going to add for our guest, Greg Szymanski, that Greg, as the media consolidates, as they get caught with fake reporters and hundreds of millions of fake newscasts and paying these shows to promote torture, they're just losing their credibility with more and more people.
And the alternative media is the fastest growing thing out there.
And now about half of the public gets most of their news from alternative media and those numbers are accelerating so we see the mainstream media starting to panic, Greg.
Well, to put it this way, they don't have a choice right now, because one, they're controlled by the advertising dollars, and any time that you have the freedom of speech controlled by money, you're going to not have freedom of speech.
Basically, trying to figure out terms here, as far as the mainstream and the alternative, I don't consider the alternative the alternative anymore.
Basically, two forms of media in this country right now.
You've got the independent grassroots, real media, and you've got the corporate propaganda.
If you want to go and express your opinions and get stories that talk about what's really going on in your country and people that are investigating the issues, you go to the alternative press, and maybe there should be another name.
But if you want corporate... And you want to read about Michael Jackson, and you want to read about fluff and entertainment, which has a place in society.
I'm not saying it doesn't.
That's what they do.
And I don't really think they should enter into territory they can't back up.
Yeah, they say we're not the real media when they're not the real media.
They have their place, and I always said that.
And that goes from 15, 20 years' experience working with them and still having friends in the media.
And, in fact, one of my good friends I worked with years ago is a Time correspondent for the Pentagon for the last 15 years, Mark Thompson.
We worked together in Oakland County in the courthouse together in 1978.
And Mark works for Time Magazine.
But anyway, and also a good friend of mine I work with is now the new managing editor of USA Today, Carol Stevens.
I worked with her back in the 70s.
Let's take a call, Greg.
Let's talk to Rarsh in Connecticut.
Rarsh, you're on the air.
Go ahead.
Yeah, I was going to actually make a comment on Terry Chaveau.
Yeah, that's fine.
Go ahead and make your comment.
Would it be possible for you to maybe repeatedly maybe call for your listeners to send Terry Chaveau the book?
If she can be shown that she can read, it's going to blow the whole idea that she's
Well, the family's done all that, and the family's shown all that, and we've shown all that, and Shivo doesn't even let them in there very much, and doesn't let them bring cameras in now.
They had to basically sneak a camera in years ago.
Wait, he stopped allowing them to bring cameras in?
Last time I talked to him, yeah.
I mean, doesn't anyone kind of find that a little strange?
Also, it looks to me, I mean, if you think about it, if she were in a rehab center, no judge in his right mind would be able to remove any sort of services from her.
Yeah, well, Bush now has sent it to the federal court.
And so that's where it stands right now.
Is there any possibility for her to be moved out of that hospice?
Yeah, it's all been tried.
I mean, that's why they're going to court.
They tried to get Shibo where he doesn't have control.
They tried to get her into other facilities.
Every angle's been hit.
Thanks for the call.
I appreciate it.
I want to keep our guests a little bit longer with us, because I know we've had callers that were holding even before our guests got on with us.
Now we'll get to the callers who've been holding, like Delilah and Randy and others, that want to talk to our guests.
We're going to start the third hour here in just a few minutes at 1-800-259-9231.
And to our guest, Greg, fire out your website one more time.
Yeah, it's www.arcticbeacon.citymaker.com.
And also on that website, you can go to links and find the 9-11 Commission Report that we did for National Republication.
And that's at www.911citizenscommission.com.
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We're talking to Greg Szymanski.
He's a writer for American Free Press, written for a lot of other big publications, and he is joining us to talk about a big report that he broke, a big story he broke.
It's been out there for a while, but he pushed it over the edge.
The perfect terrorist plan to level the Twin Towers created in 1976 by the Pentagon, even down to Arab terrorists with box cutters.
And then, of course, the popular story they all give us is some drill they did
A quarter century ago.
Same thing with Northwoods a few years before that.
Where they said, they didn't just drill, they said, we want to kill Americans, the U.S.
government did, and blame it on foreign enemies.
Going back to Greg.
Greg, let's go back to the calls.
Let's talk to Delilah in Ohio.
Delilah, thanks for holding.
Hi, Alex.
Hi, Greg.
Just wanted to say thanks for...
You guys having the courage to bring this out.
Unfortunately, I lost a relative out there at the World Trade Center when it occurred.
I'm sorry.
That's okay.
I really appreciate the truth being exposed, especially on who did what and why.
What is it like when you watch the news and see the people behind 9-11 up there posing as the saviors?
I get ticked off.
And I just kind of just, I don't really even really watch that much TV or the news, just mostly the weather because I'm so sick and tired of the lies that's out there.
By the way, let me bring this up to our guest.
Greg, did you know major studies have been coming out that large portions of people, upwards of 50%, are just not watching TV anymore?
No, no, I didn't hear about that.
Yeah, it's almost spontaneous.
Go ahead and finish up what you were saying, Delilah.
Well, yeah.
Oh, okay.
No, actually, to hear that, I'm not really too surprised.
I think part of the reason is because people are slowly starting to wake up and starting to see that there's something wrong with the whole picture, that they're just not being told the truth.
And I think as the word spreads very slowly, people are waking up.
And think about it.
Most of the stuff on TV is just junk anyway.
So I don't waste my time with it.
I have more productive things.
And your loss is something that can't really be put in words.
But what can be done is that it really boils down to what happened on that day to many Americans that were killed.
And we need to have answers in their memory.
That are truthful.
And my belief is that the first person that should be stepping forward for these truthful answers is the leader of our country, who basically is taking the cowardly approach of not even pushing for the truth, but yet hiding it.
And so I think it's abominable, and that alone should be impeached.
I agree with you 100% on that.
Anyway, my next question is as far as what happens from here, and also I really wanted to know
What was the update as far as what's going on with the draft?
That's all I wanted to ask, and I'll just listen to the answer.
Well, I did a story on that, and the last, it was about a month ago, right when Congress convened, and I had talked to the office, geez, who's the New York representative right now?
Thank you.
Escapes my name right now.
But anyway, basically he was reintroducing
The draft... Rangel?
Charlie Rangel, yeah, excuse me, I couldn't remember.
Charlie Rangel was reintroducing a bill that he had wanted to reintroduce in the last session and didn't, and now told me that he was, in the next few weeks or so, reintroducing the bill for conscription.
And basically his idea is that he feels that the poor, the rich should also share... Yeah, that's a shill.
That's a shill to get the left behind it.
The globalists need a war.
They need an expanded war.
And for that, they need conscripts.
We'll talk about that when we get back and take more of your calls.
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The point is that Ted Anderson, that owns this network, has been giving it away for free.
Whereas you look at some of the biggest shows in the country, you look at Rush Limbaugh, other shows, they have to charge.
And I don't blame them for charging.
Because, believe me, you start getting tens of thousands of people an hour, hundreds of thousands during a show, millions during a week, listening to your radio show, I mean, you start getting $10,000, $15,000, $20,000 bills.
I'm sure it's a lot higher with Rush Limbaugh.
So Ted Anderson bumped the quality of the audio on the free streams from 16 bits to 8 bits a few years ago.
Well, it didn't matter.
Sounds like you're listening to two, you know, with a string in between two Campbell's soup cans.
It's not that bad.
It's pretty good, actually.
But the point, you can mess with your equalizer and make it better.
The point is, is that we had to do that.
And he also gave out some free 16-bit streams, but they were limited.
You know, let's say only 1,000 people or 500 could listen on those higher bandwidth streams.
And then offered subscriptions to 32-bit, which sounds really good, music quality, for people that, I don't know, pay $9.95 a month or something, just trying to pay for the bandwidth.
But most people go and then they just listen to the free one.
So Ted last week goes, well, I'm going to start knocking people off the 16-bit stream for 25 minutes and then go listen to the 8-bit.
And I said, well, that's fine, Ted, but people aren't going to know.
How to go find the other free streams.
They just don't know.
And we have a smart audience.
The average American, literally a lot of them, don't really know how meat gets in the packages at the store.
I've had people ask me, how can you be on the radio in Austin, be on the radio in Kansas City?
I go, well, satellite.
You've seen Peter Jennings, right?
I'm just saying, people find a link on a website.
They use that link for years.
It changes.
It knocks them off.
And I'm getting just deluge with e-mails.
And if you're having problems listening on the Internet, you need to call the network and tell them about it.
And that's 877-996-4327, extension 101.
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That's the number for you to call, boys and girls, because I can't handle 20, 30, 40 emails a day.
Faxes, phone calls, people calling up asking the folks running my show what they can do.
Now, here's some answers.
During the day, I'm on stream one through four.
And if you go max out one of the other streams, you know, the thousands of listeners per stream, you've got to move over to another stream.
What's happening is people are going to streams 3 and 4, which kick you off in 25 minutes.
And then they don't know you can go to other streams that are always there.
And those streams are 1 and 2, right?
Those are streams 1 and 2, correct?
Got them popping in my ear, folks.
I'm like George Bush.
I've got an earpiece.
I'm joking.
It's like a remote every day.
I'm down here in Austin, Texas.
They're up in...
So, one and two.
You go to GCNlive.com.
Go to the schedule.
Go to Listen Live.
It's right there at the top of the page.
One and two.
During the day, you can always get me there.
At night, you can always get me on two and four.
And two isn't unlimited, but it's a big stream, and four is limited.
So, c'est la vie.
Complain to Ted Anderson.
Extension 101, folks.
All right.
Let's go back to my guest.
I appreciate you holding the last three or four minutes while I babbled about that, Greg.
But I tell you, it's a good problem to have, Greg, that we're having trouble supplying everybody.
The more the merrier.
You've got to get the word out.
Now, that question the last caller, then we're going to go back to calls, brought up was about the draft.
You've written stories on this.
They've got bills in the House, bills in the Senate.
They've reinstituted the draft boards.
They've doubled the funding for selective service.
The Pentagon has said we need a draft.
Bill Clinton's last study he did before he left office was for a national draft, which I found to be pretty comical.
So now Rangel goes, oh, it's just liberal.
My bill is to make these rich white people go to war.
Well, we all know they're not going to, but that's to con the left into getting behind this war when I said I was right.
Exactly, and basically I talked to his office about a month ago, and they're supposed to introduce it this term, so we'll see.
That was their word.
That's as far as I've gotten.
I haven't seen it being introduced yet.
Well, but it was introduced in the last couple sessions.
Yeah, they just, it was introduced the last session, but that was before the elections, and no one wanted to touch it, so they kind of said they'd wait.
But if we have another convenient terror attack... Kerry was, basically Kerry was, you know, Kerry was in a, you know, Rangel found himself in a funny position because of Kerry's position.
And that was before the elections and there was no way anything was going to happen then.
But now after the election, after no one's got anything to lose, I expect, you know, with the problems that I hear from talking to the military, in fact I was at the anti-war rally yesterday in Los Angeles, Saturday in Los Angeles,
I talked to a number of veterans for peace, a number of Iraqi veterans who were there against the war, against Bush, and basically telling me that the military is having a hard time getting people now, and that reports in L.A.
are this.
They're basically at Compton, at the lower, in the black neighborhoods, in the poor neighborhoods every day.
And trying to get recruits.
And, well, you can't find a soul in Brentwood or Beverly Hills.
So, basically, that's what's going on.
I picture what will happen is when they don't have enough boots, they're going to have to find a way, and this is what will happen.
Well, there will be a convenient terrorist attack.
And then, oh, see, we were hit again.
We never thought it would happen, but it has to happen.
Look, here's the numbers.
We've got 150,000 troops in Iraq, 45,000 are actual combat troops, the rest are support.
The Pentagon says 450,000.
Every branch of the military except the Air Force, even the Marines aren't getting their number now.
But what the Pentagon does is after they don't get...
You know something, Alex?
Nothing amazes me about what they do.
Basically, I look at it this way.
People have to wake up because if you look at the definition of fascism, it's a system of government marked by a centralization authority under a dictator or one rule, one power, one person.
That's Bush.
Stringent socioeconomic controls.
What's happening with our economy and what's happening with the Patriot Act and our society.
Suppression of the opposition to terror and censorship.
We talked about that, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism.
Well, Alberto Gonzalez... That doesn't sound like what we're under right now.
Alberto Gonzalez in the memo said Bush is the law.
He is above the law.
Yeah, and that's another disturbing factor in our government is how we've mixed church and state together now, which basically our founding fathers would roll over in their graves over.
Well, I mean, this whole faith-based initiative is going to pay the churches off, but I'm sure you heard that Gonzalez, in the torture memo, said Bush is above the law.
Yeah, exactly, and that goes... I did a story about another judge that was just appointed here in the Ninth Circuit, and he worked with Gonzalez to put together the legal opinion that justified torture and justified skirting the international laws of human rights.
Now, this judge, I call him the torture judge here, he's been appointed for a lifetime position on the bench here on the Ninth Circuit, and he's basically professing the same thing that Gonzalez does.
But Alberto said Bush is also above federal law.
Everybody knows the executive executes law.
It doesn't make law.
It's ridiculous.
It's people that have gone too far with their political ideas and not put the country or its people...
Thank you very much.
Bush is like Hitler, and I've heard you say it many times.
It is not an exaggeration, or it's not a radical idea anymore.
Senator Byrd just recently, when Bush is now trying to push in his 12, I call them the 12 angry judges, that were stopped into the federal judgeship positions last term because of the Senate filibuster, Democratic filibuster, Bush is now trying to change the Senate rules to get these guys in.
And Byrd came out literally recently and said that Bush
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It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
All right, let's go quickly.
Dave in Texas, you're on the air.
Hi, Alex.
I just wanted to say I have a sister that worked for Tanner Fitzgerald in Dallas.
And on 9-11, they were able to hear the screams of all the people in the building.
It was terrible.
How were they able to hear the screams?
They had a telephone link that was set up with their office in the Dallas office.
From New York.
Hey, you think it's another coincidence that they had another drill with men with box cutters and the exact targets in 1976 funded by the Pentagon?
Alex, it was all set up.
You know that, and I know that, but not too many people do.
The one thing that got me researching 9-11 was the fall of Building No.
When I saw that happen live on television, I said, this isn't right.
This looks like a controlled demolition.
Dan Rather, Peter Jennings all say the same thing.
And they did a lot of independent research and found out a lot of things.
And I was just thoroughly convinced that they let it happen.
And then after more research, I'm of the conclusion that they not only let it happen, they made it happen.
Well, they count on us being naive suckers and they laugh at us, Greg.
And I would just say to the caller to basically tell as many people as you can
To research it and do the same thing you did, the same process, because this is the only way that we're ever going to get any accountability.
And I applaud you for your efforts.
Alex, actually, I stayed away from your website because I thought you were a new world order nut.
And the more research I did, the more I said, maybe there's something to this Alex Jones guy.
And I've come to respect a lot of your work.
Well, thank you, Dave.
Look, Dave, I wish I was wrong.
Every day I wish it.
I mean, this whole weekend I just thought about how sad it is that there's so many good, decent people and such beautiful communities and so much good in the world.
I don't like focusing on the negative, but the evil is in control at the top.
It controls all the political parties.
It's in command.
And none of us are safe until we face what it's really doing.
Thanks, Dave.
Any comments on that?
Yeah, Alex, I couldn't have said it any better.
I believe that we have to really now fight back because our country is basically in jeopardy because of a small group of people who want to push along their agenda, which I believe is not the agenda that most Americans would agree with.
That's basically what a democracy is all about.
I do not consider America a democracy anymore.
Well, we're a republic and we've certainly gotten away from that.
And I would just tell people, look, we're in danger, folks.
We've got people running things that will kill 3,000 of us just like that.
I mean, they're ruthless.
Let's talk to Steve in Kansas City.
Steve, go ahead.
You're on the air.
Hello, Mr. Jones, Mr. Comincy.
I appreciate you taking my call.
There may not be as small of people that are running this country as what you said.
My comment is, or question is, what do you know about the papacy, the Pope running all the political aspects and controlling these things in the Jesuit society?
You know, I hear that all the time, and I just don't see the evidence.
Well, I mean, there's a couple of books out there.
I know there are.
No, I know.
I mean, yeah, that could open up a can of worms that, you know, put a target on your back.
Well, no, it's not that.
I mean, I'll say it if I believe it's true.
I mean, is the Catholic Church controlled?
Is the Protestant Church controlled?
Are the Democrats controlled?
Are the big Jewish groups controlled?
I mean, the globalists have got the money.
They've got the printing presses.
They've been able to buy and take control of everything.
Well, that's in 19, you know, all the way back, you know, when they tried to start the central bank.
Which became the Federal Reserve.
That was all... I'm just saying, whenever you put one label on one group, what it does is it balkanizes people.
I mean, look, if we're against evil and we're against corruption, what does it matter if it's Jews or Germans or whatever?
Evil people.
Can't we all agree we're going to fight evil?
Well, no, there's good Jews, there's good Germans, there's good communists, there's good people out there.
But I was just wondering, you know, what you or Mr...
I think what you have to look at when you talk about who controls the moves of our government
I think basically you look towards more or less a global group of very wealthy people, whether you want to call them the Builder Bird Society, which is an interesting place to start researching who basically does make the decisions.
And I think you have such a corporate and governmental mesh now that one is the same as the other.
So when you say, yes, our country is run by someone else,
Who it is, I think, is something that you look to, you follow the money.
Greg, I want to thank you for coming on.
Steve, stay there.
We'll talk more.
We'll have you back on soon, sir.
Thank you very much.
Thank you.
We'll be right back, folks.
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All right, Steve, Jim, Chris, many others, your calls are coming up.
I do have some other important news I want to hit on here.
Before I go back to Steve, let me just first get this out, and then I'll have him comment on what I say.
You know, I got into fighting the New World Order just because I'd read a lot of history books, a lot of alternative history.
I'd studied human systems just a little bit.
But again, most people don't even know who their congressman is or basic human history, so I guess I'm a little unusual in that I know something about it, which is almost Greek to everybody else.
And when you look at the Catholics and the Jews and the Protestants and the Chinese and the Japanese and the South Africans and...
Arab traders and when you begin looking at the Inquisition or you look at the Crusades or you look at mercantilism, looking at all these different periods and different individuals, different things that happened, basically you do have these global elites, these different power groups, fighting with each other.
And it's all cloak and dagger.
It's covert.
Secret societies were simply the old term for what is an intelligence agency today.
The mafia, the Italian mafia, grew out of the different Sicilian families in Sicily and then in Italy proper.
And they'll admit that above them is an even more secret Masonic group that is one of the most powerful in the world.
And then you hear that supposedly Catholics and Masons are at odds with each other.
But then you find out at higher levels that basically Masons have gotten control of the Catholic Church.
And then you argue with the local Masons who are low level who think, hey, my group's good.
We're here to help humanity because they're not higher level.
They're compartmentalized like the cops, like the bureaucrats, like the school teachers.
It's about compartmentalization, and I have studied it.
I have looked at it.
My new film, Martial Law, really answers the question.
The whole last hour, it's a two and a half hour plus film, deals with the death societies, the orders of death.
Because when you get right down to it, folks, you've got groups that will tell you how they're Jewish and they're going to take care of the Jews, and the Jews just follow them.
And you've got the Catholic groups, oh, just be the little Catholics and follow your leaders and you'll be fine.
You've got the Protestant leaders doing the same thing, and folks, they all go, they all meet, just like a mafia commission, just like you'd think of, you know, the classical mafia.
They all go.
That's what a Bilderberg group meeting is.
You got the top Arabs there from the House of Saud.
You got the top Jews there.
You got the top Nazis there.
You got them all there.
And they all like the same stuff.
Machine guns.
Black masks.
Terror attacks.
Secret arrests.
Tiny elites consolidating wealth through government control.
And so if I go out and I say the Catholics are bad, well, that turns off a lot of Catholics.
Now, if Catholics themselves were bad, I would get on the air and say Catholics are bad.
But if the average Catholic per person you talk to is a good, nice, hard-working person...
You know, the way to wake them up to something isn't to go, you are the spawn of Satan, you are possessed by the devil.
Or to, you know, go and say, because there's... Now, if I go and I approach it like this, and by the way, that means approaching it through fact, the truth is always the way to approach it.
It's strange.
If I went on the air and I said, the Jews are the seed of the devil.
The Jews are scheming ways to enslave you
Well, I'd turn off all the Jews, number one.
Number two, I'd turn off a lot of other people.
But see, by not mincing words and telling the truth, I get all the Jews who are good people to be fans of the broadcast.
It's like I can get all the Catholics who are good people to listen to the show.
The bad Catholics aren't going to listen.
People that know, who are on the inside of it, who like defrauding people.
It's the same thing.
I'm a Protestant.
But I don't defend Pat Robertson when he says forced abortion is good.
Oh, yeah.
I don't defend Pat Robertson when he says, oh, the implantable chip isn't the mark of the beast.
Go ahead and take it.
A lot of people get mad at me.
But, I mean, he did say those things, so I've got to talk about it.
Jay Succulos did a lot of good work.
Now, suddenly, he's out promoting the Patriot Act.
I've got to say that's wrong.
This is so important.
I'm against organized crime.
And folks, there was organized crime in China 2,000 years ago before a single Jew ever took a step there, before a single Vatican assassin ever showed up there.
There was evil, there was all the same secret societies, subterfuge, backstabbing, assassinations, all of it.
Long before a Westerner touched in Japan, same stuff was going on.
Before a white man ever took a step into Africa, all the slave trading, the murdering, the killing, it was all going on.
I'm against Jewish organized crime.
And Jewish organized crime, that's what the ADL was set up for, by the way.
This is admitted in different court cases of prominent gangsters.
They would just go and really go after people and call them names and smear them if they stood up to them.
Well, I mean, if you want to go after Jewish mafia, don't go after them because they're Jewish.
Go after them because they're mafia.
It's like if you go after the Italian Mafia, you don't go after Italians.
What, you got about 10 million Italians in this country and maybe 3,000 of them are in the Mafia?
So, I mean, it's like a lot of black folks think all white people don't like them or are racist.
Again, they're stereotyping.
But again, the Italian Mafia, the WASP Mafia, which by the way is the biggest, runs things down here in Texas, I'm here to tell you.
The Wasp Mafia, they're so establishment that they own all the big banks, and they're in all the big power positions, teamed up with the Jewish Mafia.
You don't even know there was ever a Wasp Mafia, or its little subgroups, the Irish-German Mafia, because they own the newspapers.
They're not going to tattle on themselves.
And so you've got all these mafias, and they meet in commission meetings, that's what the Bilderberg Group is.
And the helicopters and the troops guard it, and the armored limousines drive in, and you got the head Saudis who are into the same degenerate stuff the Jewish mafia's in, that the Protestant mafia's in, that the... They're all just mafias.
They operate the same way.
These are models of control.
And they all sit around their big commission meetings, and they say, well, we all agree to keep the slaves in the dark.
We all agree to continue our programs of putting biometrics in.
They agree on the baseball diamond or on the gridiron, on the board, how the board is set up.
They maintain the board.
They cut the grass.
That's the New World Order.
That's the controlled media.
That's the, you know, they paint the turnstiles.
Looking at this slave grid as some type of sports stadium is the analogy.
They all agree on maintaining that and expanding it and doing that.
On conning the suckers.
But they do fight with each other.
They do assassinate each other.
They do squabble.
And it's all who can calculate the best.
It's all who can manipulate the best.
It's all who can hold the most dirt over other people's heads.
And that's what they do.
And they don't make cars.
I mean, they own companies that do.
They don't make computers.
They don't... They don't...
They own other people.
What they do make is tyranny.
What they are experts in, generationally, is control and manipulation and spin.
They are the great-great-great-great-great-grandchildren of snake oil salesmen.
They are the great-great-great-great-great-grandchildren of warrior kings.
They are the great-great-great-great-great-grandchildren of mafia dons.
And they know what they're doing and they just call you a bunch of idiots and laugh at you and they're predators.
A normal person couldn't do what they do if they had a conscience.
They see conscience as a weakness.
They see conscience as something bad.
They see you and I as weak because we have soft hearts.
They think it's their right to rule over us in a social Darwin type view because...
Well, that's survival of the fittest, and because we are these cattle, we deserve to be fed on.
And that's the view that the elite Japanese had.
That's the view that the elite Germans had when they were living in huts.
That's the view that the Jews had.
That's the view that the Comanche had against the other Native Americans.
The dominant group over their region always says they're the best, and always says they have the right to enslave everybody.
And I say these groups are cancers.
These ruling elites were always cancers over their own group.
That's the group that's always the most abused.
And then they're cancers to everybody else.
And now they've all linked up and teamed up to bring in this new world order.
And they're going like gangbusters, folks.
Trillions missing from the Pentagon.
Poisons in the water by design.
We get the government documents where they're going to do it to us on purpose.
You show people they're so dumb now that they don't even know how to read it.
And so, listen, I've studied it.
I cover what I can document, and I'm here to tell you, the elite aren't Jews, they aren't Catholics, they aren't Protestants, they aren't black, they aren't Chinese.
They are Luciferians.
It's true.
The Bible's true.
Every time I research it, I run smack dab, at the end of the day, into Satanism.
That's what they are.
That's what binds them in their commission meetings.
That's what they're into.
And look, even if you're an atheist, which I think is foolish, but let's look at things in a scientific way, the way you would look at it.
If you're a predator class that's into dehumanization and control and enjoys what they're doing, wouldn't you have a religion of do as thou wilt?
That is the whole of the law?
Wouldn't your religion be that of darkness and destruction?
Look at the Aztecs' gods.
Look at the Babylonians' gods.
Look at the Egyptians' gods.
Only way you can describe it.
Based on enslavement.
The Nazis' gods.
Skull and crossbones.
That's what we're dealing with here.
And people fixate on this.
They think when they call in, and I don't discourage it, do it if you want, and talk about the Jews, that that somehow wounds the evil Jews.
And I put that in quotes, New York Times.
You know, they're saying the Jews are evil.
Or when they say the Catholics, that it wounds them.
No, no, no, no, no.
We have Zionist documents where they wanted Jews to be persecuted.
Because then that makes them run more into the Zionist camp.
You're helping them.
Good job.
Same thing.
Black leaders want blacks to be dumbed down on these reservations, these plantations of inner cities, where they're more easily controlled.
It's the same story.
It's the same thing.
Over and over again.
They train the cops how to act like thugs, how to be mean to us, how to abuse us.
Suddenly we stop liking the cops.
I mean, you used to do cops couldn't fight off the coffee and an apple pie.
Cops were nice.
Cops were honored.
Cops were respected.
But they were trained how we're the enemy, thin blue line, be against the people.
And now the people don't like the cops.
And so then the feds come and say, see, they don't like you.
You've got to even be more with us.
And so they go to the feds.
Okay, we'll get even more radical, which then makes it even worse.
It's the same thing over and over again.
It's evil people.
And so when you attack evil groups and then give them one of the labels they want you to give them, that helps them because then it gets the general public to support them.
Because the general public goes, well, I'm Hispanic and I'm not bad.
Or I'm black and I'm not bad.
Or I'm Jewish and I'm not bad.
Or I'm a white Christian Protestant and I'm not bad.
And I'm tired of the liberal media attacking me.
And they go, oh, here's Rush Limbaugh.
He's fighting for me.
They even give you the phony alternative and you go run into that.
And then it's the same thing.
We just got to get past all this.
And people fixate on it.
It feels very good to be tribal.
Mecha and La Raza, you know, especially Mecha says, kill all the white people, run them out, and they're getting a lot of members, and you notice that the white bankers are funding them.
And I can deprogram a METCHA member unless they're an evil controller.
I just go, well, okay, here's your own funding.
Why are all these guys you say are bad funding you?
No, you're working for them to break this country down.
And they go, oh, oh, I see.
I'm like, yes, because see, I go around the paradigm.
I'm outside the box.
So it feels really good to be in your own little good old boy clubs.
Whether you're a Jewish group that doesn't like anybody but Jews, or whether you're a black group that doesn't like anybody but blacks, or you're an Anglo-Saxon WASP group that doesn't like anybody but whites, you're all controlled.
Your bosses, bosses, bosses all meet in a room that looks like the color of the rainbow, and they're not thinking about color, folks.
They're thinking about blood.
They're thinking about power.
They're thinking about destruction.
All right, that's enough.
Steve in Kansas City, what else do you have to say?
Oh, Steve's gone.
I was going to let him comment.
I told him to hold.
Tim in Ohio.
Tim, go ahead.
Good afternoon, Alex.
This is reminding me of what you said in the past, where rat poison is, what, 98% grain, right?
And it's the 2% that's within the rat poison, which is what kills off the good.
That's it.
And one thing that...
You have to look at, as far as the big picture, America was the country that was attacked in 9-1-1, yet these controlled grid systems are going in worldwide.
And it's the exact same companies and the exact same digital identifiers?
It's a world idea, and it's admitted.
Another thing that's interesting, though, you were talking before about the Vatican.
Wasn't it the Pope who in the past would coronate the kings and the queens, to actually put the...
Yeah, until Martin Luther and they broke off with Henry VIII.
Two more quick things.
If you could shoot me your zip code and your suite address real quick.
I missed that for the tapes.
It's 3001... Got that.
I just need a zip code and a suite number.
3001 South Lamar, Suite 100...
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Thank you.
And one more thing, if you could talk quickly on remedy and recourse as far as the UCC 1-207 and 1-203, and can that really help people?
You know, all that stuff's real.
The globalists have put back doors in all their admiralty courts, but they don't accept it when you or I do it.
It's totally criminal.
I mean, we've got a government that says they're above the law.
I mean, it's just reached pure tyranny.
So, really, it's all an information war now.
It's about waking up as many people as quickly as possible.
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All right, I've got to move quick here.
Steve in Kansas City is there.
Steve, did that answer your question earlier?
I mean, yeah, you are exactly right, Mr. Jones.
I mean, I care about everybody.
I mean, I don't want to paint anybody as bad just because, you know, a few bad apples that are out there.
I just wanted to bring, you know, what I know.
Because I have, you know, six-year tapes.
I mean, it's just, I mean, you know, people, I mean, as you say, when you start looking, when you start listening to your show, or, you know, the alternative media like this, you're going to find out things that, I mean, I just didn't buy your tapes, you know, with blind faith.
I looked you up, I found out, and, I mean, you know, what you were saying was, you know, documented and true.
So I bought your tapes and I watched them.
I documented that and it's true.
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I mean, I can't stop.
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And, I mean, people, they don't care.
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That's fine.
But, I mean, I don't want to
You know, disparage any, you know, race or group.
No, no, I mean, my whole point wasn't even about you.
I was saying... Well, no, I know it was.
I was saying that everybody sees evil in everything because every major organization has been taken over by this global crime syndicate.
Thanks for the call.
I appreciate your support, Steve.
Real fast, Chris in Kentucky and then Ed in Louisiana.
Go ahead, Chris.
All right, well, I'll tell you what.
Since I got the call scrambled here at the end, I'm not going to take any more.
I'm sorry.
I'm down here in Austin, Texas.
They're up in Minnesota, and sometimes it gets confused in between.
You know what?
I'm just not going to take any more calls because I want to hit on a couple of final little news articles right here at the end.
Bush has signed a bill, talked about this in the first hour, that may let Schiavo live.
That's good news.
It goes to a federal judge now.
And she's now been three days off of food and water.
But it's just like when John Gotti, the mob boss, would buy pizza for everybody once a year on the block and they'd say, Oh, Mr. Gotti's so nice, he's so good for our neighborhood.
It's the same thing.
Bush is forced by us to do this, and then we talk about how good he is.
We need to be aware of what the caller mentioned, the rat poison situation.
Russian intelligence chief says Al-Qaeda a myth on the pretext of fighting international terrorism.
The United States is trying to establish control over the world's richest oil reserves.
Leonid Sherebashin, ex-chief of Foreign Intelligence Services, who heads the Russian Naval Economic Security Service Consulting Company, said in an interview for a major newspaper in Moscow, using the anti-terrorist cause as a cover...
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Bush administration protecting Bill Clinton as usual, this out of the Associated Press.
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