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for a massive broadcast lined up for you today. We'll get into the latest death numbers of
our troops in Iraq, new scandals concerning torture not just in Iraq but also Afghanistan,
the Fed to raise interest rates, what's happening with the economy. But a large portion of the
broadcast, we also have Paul Watson joining us in an hour and a half to cover the worldwide news
and to give us his news analysis. It's always excellent, but in the first hour and a half
we're going to predominantly focus on Pulitzer Prize winning author, researcher, San Jose
Mercury reporter Gary Webb who we now have gotten the details. The police report all of it. He was
shot in the face with a shotgun, clearly murdered. Oh, but conveniently the police say it was a
suicide. Well, since we learned of this yesterday morning and the world learned of it yesterday
morning that he had been killed in his home the night before the morning before. Since we learned
of this, I've talked to Sally Castillo. I have talked to Chico Brown who was Freeray Ricky Ross's
one of his top business partners. Freeray Ricky Ross, the biggest drug dealer on the West Coast
for the CIA. And you see, I'm one of the few people that's interviewed Freeray Ricky Ross,
not on this radio show, but for an upcoming film that I'm involved in called American Drug War.
Well, last night the producer of the film called Freeray Ricky Ross in the federal prison he's
in in the Panhandle of Texas up near Good Old Tulia where he's not allowed to have interviews. Even
Texas Monthly has trouble getting into scene. And I've interviewed him over the phone before
from there for the film. And he learned from Kevin Booth, the producer of American Drug War,
that Gary had recently been telling him that he was on the new information concerning the CIA
and drug trafficking. And that men, he pulled up to his house and two men were up on his balcony.
Two special forces types. They jumped off the balcony and ran away. He was being followed. He
was being threatened. But the police, of course, will say it is all suicide. Just like Princess
Diana says, they're going to kill me in the next few months. They've told me in a fake automobile
accident, that's how they're going to kill me. They killed my lover. They murdered him. Now they've
said they're going to kill me. Or Dr. David Kelly, whistleblower, says if I don't shut up,
they're going to kill me and I'll be found dead in the woods. Told two different colleagues that
have gone public. Mainstream news, but again, back of the paper. We're not going to let the memory
of Gary Webb go down in some type of shame like he committed suicide.
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Pulitzer prize winner, author of the best selling book, Dark Alliance CIA Drugs series,
dead of reported suicide shot in the face with a shotgun. Now it was a little more obvious when
people would commit suicide with two gunshots to the back of the head, which is kind of hard
to get the rifle to the back of your head and then it's impossible basically to shoot yourself
twice in the back of the head. But we have now learned some new developments. I have interviewed
Ricky Ross, Freeway Ricky Ross, who was selling $25 million worth of cocaine a day.
$25 million of cocaine a day in California distributing across the West.
Openly taking delivery from the Central Intelligence Agency.
And Gary Webb won the Pulitzer prize. Then the media, the establishment,
tried to discredit him. He was successful in disproving their claims. He had just recently
been able to disprove everything they were saying and had been vindicated.
And he had recently told Freeway Ricky Ross via telephone in his federal jail cell
in North Texas that there were men up on his balcony when he pulled up at home jumping off
and running off, that he was being followed, that he was being threatened. And then he supposedly
shoots himself in the face with a shotgun. He was moving. He had movers coming to his house, was
moving. And just had a divorce. That's when the CIA likes to strike. So they have the
convenient narrative, the story. Oh, he was depressed. And then he just shot himself in the
face with a shotgun. And again, I'll repeat it. Just yesterday, big British newspapers,
several of them, had the headlines with the British paramedics that came to the scene of Dr. David
Kelly. The former head of the biological weapons program, important down, then the head British
UN envoy to the inspectors saying that it wasn't true. Saddam couldn't hit England in 45 minutes.
Notice with chemical or biological weapons that there weren't any weapons of mass destruction.
He then told an American and a British colleague, they're going to kill me. I'm going to be found
dead in the woods if I don't shut up. And then he's found dead in the woods with three undigested
sleeping pills. They wouldn't have killed him, by the way, would have taken dozens. They're undigested.
Somebody put him down his throat. Undigested sitting in his belly, sitting in his stomach
with almost no blood at the scene. He supposedly died by slitting his own wrist.
And there's almost no blood at the scene. And one of the local constables when they were out
looking for him because he'd come up missing the night before that morning when they came upon
the body from about a hundred yards, they described seeing men in black uniforms who looked like
military men, you know, the short haircut muscular. And then they walked off from the dead body
and the constable went up there and didn't chase them. Obviously intimidated by them.
And then they called in the police and oh, it's a suicide. Men with shaved short hair cuts
standing around the body. No blood to speak of, the paramedics said. Tells people they're going
to kill me and put me in the woods. I mean, what more do you need? A videotape of them killing him?
Princess Diana, months before her death, says they're going to kill me. They've told me
Charles is going to kill me in a fake auto accident. This is mainstream. This,
this, that they're going to kill me in a fake auto accident. And then a few months later,
when she's pregnant with the shopping mall tycoon's child, the British royals weren't
about let her be pregnant by anybody who wasn't royal, much less an Arab.
Very upset about that. Think of the scandal. She thought she could just rebel and do whatever
she wanted to, you know, get back at them. Didn't work that way. Her car, her Mercedes,
gets stolen the week before. And when it gets returned, all detailed nice. No questions asked.
Her security detail just says, oh, it got returned. We'll just take it.
Wonder why. And then the cameras all turn off two minutes before the wreck.
And then it plows into the pillar, the underground tunnel. And then they sit there for an hour.
The paramedics just sit there and you see the surveillance cameras and they turn back on her,
her legs moving and twitching and it looks like people are inside holding her down.
And she has a little problem and she gets loaded in the ambulance. They drive 25 miles an hour for
another 45 minutes and she dies at the hospital. Hey, right as she gets there.
Oh, no, she wasn't killed. I mean, people can say they're going to kill me. They can specifically
say how they're going to die. They can name who is going to kill them. And then when they're murdered,
the authorities say, oh, no, it was an accident or it was a suicide.
This is unbelievable. And the cowards in the media and the cowardly police and the
cowardly medical examiners, they just go and rubber stamp it. They've got a problem though,
because the paramedics in the Kelly case are saying, no, this guy had been brought there.
You know, we've seen what happens. People slit their wrist. There's blood. There's blood, you know.
They got a problem with saying all the voice recorders and data recorders were destroyed at
the World Trade Center site because firefighters are going public and saying it's all a fraud.
And by the way, the FBI threatened us. They got a problem. Some people got courage. Some people
speak up. Some people get involved. Some people have spinal cords and aren't jellyfish.
And I'm not going to stand here and let them smirch the memory of people they kill,
like Dr. Kelly and Gary Webb. I'm not going to sit here and watch these heroes fall and then not
give them their due. Gary Webb deserves to be buried in Arlington Cemetery with a monument there
for standing up and never backing down. And I know they've got patriotic cemeteries in England.
Dr. David Kelly deserves to be buried there. We're doing what's right.
I'm not going to sit here and let them claim they commit suicide when it's not true.
And again, I will never commit suicide. I've never thought of committing suicide.
I would never want to commit suicide. Nothing would happen in my life that would make me commit
suicide. So don't you, if they kill me, ever let the media say I committed suicide. I'm sick of it.
And again, they have old technology. Even the highway departments come out.
Federal transportation offices come out and say, oh, yeah, we can remote control cars perfectly.
And why in the future we may even make it to where your cars are controlled as you drive down the road
or where there's little sensors on your car. And if there's an emergency, we can remote control
and take control of your car that will keep you from running into other cars or any type of
obstructions. Covered that about a year ago when it came out off the government's own website.
It's old technology. So the car, Diana's car gets stolen a week before, gets brought back
detailed and her own security doesn't even, her own royal security just, oh, it was stolen when
it was returned. Let's just put you in it. And so the driver gets in there and everybody describes
it as the car just suddenly veers right into the 13th pillar.
In fact, it did it over 100 yards early. It isn't like it just suddenly veered. The car's driving
and it just veers perfectly and stays in a perfect line and hits straight on dead center
into that pylon. Clearly, it was remote control. Then it turns out the driver was not on drugs,
was not drunk, was not on pills. Those toxicology reports are out public.
But boy, when you ever hear of somebody in a car, wasn't stuck in the car, it was just the
front of the car was smashed. When you ever heard of somebody, them just leaving somebody for an
hour in the car, there's the video of her legs flopping as they're leaning in over.
They're going to kill me in a fake auto accident. Charles is going to kill me soon.
He told me. Oh, the police. Oh, no, he's not a suspect. No, because you can't be a suspect. He's
your royal, isn't he? No, royals never kill their families, never kill their wives.
They never smothered the twins in the tower and
killed them. Henry VIII didn't kill five of his wives and their heads chopped off. No, they never
do that. It never happens. I don't know when it doesn't happen. That's court entry. No, it's
impossible. It's ridiculous. Royals do not have other royals killed when they're pregnant with
Arabs children. I'm sure Prince Charles was happy and he was just going to let a foreigner
impregnate his wife. And again, I'm not saying anything wrong with that. I'm saying they weren't
going to put up with that. But Gary Webb, ladies and gentlemen, new developments. And this was
recorded, by the way. I talked to Kevin Booth last night right before he was making the American
Drug War film and I'm narrating and hosting. Big production. Been in production for a year.
I mean, production for another year. And he was going to call, forget the call, his weekly call
from Premier Ricky Ross in prison where Gary Webb got a lot of his information. And when he called
him, he didn't know that Gary died and that was all caught on tape. We'll air that tomorrow,
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Later this afternoon, we definitely need our great listeners to make a transcript of this
interview from this point on. Kevin Booth is a documentary filmmaker. He's been working for the
last year on a film titled American Drug War. In the websites americandrugwar.com, the film
will be coming out in about a year. He's interviewed basically everybody under the sun concerning the
history of the drug war, who really controls the drug trade. I am the narrator of the film and the
host of it. I have been involved in some interviews with Ricky Ross, known as Freeray Ricky Ross,
the biggest public drug dealer, that is the biggest known drug dealer in West Coast history,
upwards of in some days, $25 million worth of dealing going on to link directly back to the CIA.
He was one of the main sources for Gary Webb, the Pulitzer Prize winning author of the book
Dark Alliance CIA Drug Series in the San Jose Mercury News. And then, of course, he then wrote the best
selling book, Dark Alliance. He was shotgunned in the face, something that the major newspapers
aren't reporting, but I have this from direct sources in Sacramento and some of Gary's best friends
and associates. It's just unbelievable. He was shotgunned in the face and then movers who were
coming to the house found a note on the door saying, don't come in, call 911, call an ambulance.
Yesterday, Kevin called me and again, we've interviewed Ricky in the past. He said, Ricky's
scheduled to call me tonight at 1030 because you can't call him at the federal prison he's in.
They've moved him there from Victorville, Florida. Excuse me. Scratch that from Victorville,
Northern California from that prison in Northern California
in Southern California. And again, we'll scratch that out of the transcript,
trying to get all these facts together. Victorville in Southern California to the Panhandle of Texas,
North Texas, where they do not let media in to interview Mr. Ross. So we've been doing it over
the telephone. Kevin Booth was able to get the call last night and had the unfortunate job of
breaking the news to Freeway Ricky Ross that Gary Webb had died from gunshot wound to the head,
to the face, in very questionable circumstances. And now Kevin can reveal to us what Gary Webb
via telephone had recently told Freeway Ricky Ross. Kevin Booth. Hey, Alex. We've got about
three minutes before we hit break. Just tell folks basically who Freeway Ricky is and what
happened in the conversation last night. Well, I guess, you know, like you said, Ricky Ross was,
he just became known as the biggest crack dealer in West Coast history. The name Freeway came from
the fact that he was buying up so much real estate along the Harbor Freeway in Los Angeles.
And when he finally got put away the second time, he didn't know that the CIA was behind,
you know, allowing him to become so big. I mean, basically, it's not like CIA agents
were like supplying cocaine. It's more like he just couldn't believe he never got caught. And
he couldn't believe how low the prices were. And he couldn't believe how just easy it all was.
Well, people, I mean, in the Dark Alliance series and talking to Ricky, they had a go-between,
but it was Contras directly shelling him. And then the Contras flying back were all part of the
CIA operation. Right. It was all, yeah, all these big cartels. And so, you know, like you said,
I mean, he was in the Victorville prison and right above Los Angeles there. And, you know,
the last time he spoke to Gary, which wasn't that long ago, you know, he told me that Gary
was still working on the story, that this was the kind of thing that Gary was never going to give
up on because Gary felt like he could just keep going with this forever and uncover more and
more people and exposing more names. And but he did tell me that Gary knew he was being followed.
Every time he drove somewhere, there was always cars following him around. He said he knew it was
government people. Several times he came home. It was an apartment, a two-story apartment late at
night. And a guy would come shimmying down like a drainage pipe, you know, off of his balcony.
And, you know, you could tell it wasn't a burglar. I mean, it was obviously somebody
probably in his apartment rummaging around looking at documents or looking at his computer.
And we talked off air. It was described as kind of a special forces type, you know,
really fast going down the pipe. Yeah, definitely. And, you know,
so onto like the whole suicide angle of the story, I mean, it's kind of like they did
stuff to kind of freak him out, to intimidate him, to push him to actually being depressed.
But I mean, everybody I've spoken to, Ricky included, said there's no way,
you know, that this guy would have taken his life. But he enjoyed life. He loved his kids.
He was excited about the future. And, you know, people of South Central LA saw Gary Webb as a
godsend. He was... We'll be right back, Kevin. We got a break. Stay with us.
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Coming up in a few minutes, we'll be talking to Sally Castillo. Of course, the top DEA agent in
Latin America, Central and South America, who was eyewitness to masses of drug deals by the CIA
and by the Contras and another one of Gary Webb's sources, the Pulitzer Prize winning
author of the Dark Alliance series and the San Jose Mercury news, then wrote the best-selling
book, Dark Alliance, CIA drug trafficking. And the new developments, Kevin Booth, again, who's
been interviewing, talked to him last night. I've interviewed him for the film as well,
talking to Freeway Ricky Ross, who was the person who was supplied with CIA cocaine and the biggest
known drug dealer in West Coast history. Tens of millions of dollars a day going on for years and
was absolutely untouchable, one of the major sources for the Dark Alliance piece. Kevin broke
the news to Freeway Ricky, Ricky Ross, last night. And describe for us, Kevin, before we get back
into the people that were rummaging through and up on his balcony and following Gary Webb around
according to Ricky Ross, how did Ricky take it when you described it to him? I know we're going to
be able to play that on the air, but you weren't at your office when I called you for this broadcast
this morning, and so we're not going to be able to have that until tomorrow. But Kevin, describe
that discussion for us. Oh, he took it really bad, you know? I mean, he thought of Ricky as a,
I mean, he thought of, he thought of him as like a godsend and that, you know, this guy,
Gary, put his life on the line to expose this story and that, you know, that he just thought it
was really depressing and really just really made him sad. And he said a lot of the guys there in
jail who are familiar with the story and a lot of people are going to be sad. I mean, you know,
when he came out with that story, a lot of people in South Central just kind of had a wake-up call
and it just all rang so true to them. And, you know, one of the crazy parts of the story too is
that, like I said, I mean, Ricky wasn't, he wasn't even aware of all this until he got put in prison
and Gary Webb came out to try to help him with his case. And that's when all this evidence started
becoming uncovered. And it was just, just like with me working on the film, but the drug war,
it's just like one thing leads to another. It just never ends. So you talk to one person,
they lead you to another, and he just kept following this chain and the chain, you know,
just because he finished that one book, it just never stops. So my question to Ricky was like,
well, why was it, you know, the book is already out, everybody knows all this stuff, so why kill him now?
It was just a revenge thing. He said, absolutely not because Gary was still hot on the trail
and he was never going to give up on this thing. And he had just recently been vindicated. The
establishment media had been trying to attack him with ham-fisted attacks, but it wasn't working.
And he had just, as of late, brought out a lot of new evidence. He had been vindicated. That
was starting to come out in the news. He was still on the trail. That had been reported on.
Now, Selly Castillo is joining us right now, Kevin, and he may not be aware of this new
development. When you talked to Ricky Ross last night for Selly, please repeat what Ricky told
you Gary told him about people at his apartment and about being followed.
Well, yeah, he just, he knew that he was being followed all the time. And there are several
instances where he would come home after, you know, working all day at late at night,
and he would see a guy shimmy down like that. He had a drain pipe that went up to the balcony on
the second floor apartment. And these guys that were definitely not burglars would like come shimmying
down the pole really fast and just, you know, disappear. And he was pretty confident that
that they're up there rummaging through documents, looking at his computer.
What was the term? And again, we're going to air this interview.
But Kevin, what was the term he used to describe them? I mean, why did he think that they weren't
just regular burglars? I believe you described it as, as it was just so professional how they did
it. It's so professional. What Ricky said, he just, he just said that Gary said they were definitely
government. That's, that's all, you know, that's all he's told me. So I'm not going to put words
in his mouth, but he, he just said they were, that Gary had said these are definitely government
people. You know, I mean, he's been, so that was the term he used was definitely government people.
Yes. Unbelievable. Anything else he told you during this interview? I mean, I've been doing
interviews before with you with Ricky and he only gets about 15 minutes and then the prison cuts
him off. This is the only way we're allowed to interview him. They don't really let the media
end the interview. I mean, you've actually had to contact lawyers and have started proceedings
concerning that because they're not supposed to be able to do that. Well, yeah, another,
another part of the story I didn't know about was that, you know, after Chico and Ricky had gotten
arrested at that time, I guess there was some production company in New York that wanted to,
that was trying to buy the rights to do like a film about this and the DEA rated their office
and confiscated everything. Some big like film company in New York and definitely put an end to
any thoughts that these guys are going to make a movie about. Yeah, this would blow Scarface,
which is based on some real characters out of the water. I mean, this is a film that needs to be
made. And so that's another big piece of this. Anything they can to try to stop it. And Kevin,
I know that you're out taking care of errands right now. I hope that you can try. Let's be
honest. I called Kevin this morning. He's out on the green belt, beautiful weather here down by
the river, walking his, his two dogs. But Kevin, do you think you can get back to your office and
get that queued up by the end of the show? I'll try to. If you can't, it's okay. We can. I don't
know how to play it over the phone, though. You can figure it out. You could, I think you can
plug it into your, we'll just try to figure out if you can't, we can get it over here and get it
uploaded to the computer tonight and try to get it or put it on the web and high bandwidth and we
can download it and stream it that way. This needs to get out immediately for Gary. Kevin, I want
to bring up Selly Castile. Now, Selly, again, was the top DEA agent. He's been all over the big
national TV shows, far and television. We've interviewed him many times. He's come to Austin
and, and, and showed the pictures of the CIA drug dealers. He shows us the connection to Latin
America, how that coupled through to people like freeway Ricky Ross and the direct connection of
the CIA and these conduits to people like freeway Ricky Ross and the LAPD protecting Ricky Ross and
other top drug dealers. Selly, was this a new development for you to learn that Kevin talked
to freeway Ricky and found out that he had told freeway Ricky that he'd had men at his house and
things? I've heard something to that effect, but I wasn't very sure on it what actually did happen.
But my whole point to this issue is the fact that you gotta remember one thing. Nobody's ever done
a movie or a documentary on the Iran contra investigation which involved the
CIA involving drug trafficking. Now, Gary Webb at one point pointed to the assets
that were heavily involved and I myself pointed to actually the CIA officials
who were actually participating in loading and unloading and refueling the planes.
You came to Austin and did a two-hour presentation and showed photos of them,
documents, everything. Yeah, I got another hundred set of slides I'm going to bring over to Kevin
Booth who he can put them on and those slides do have the good, the bad, and the ugly.
For people that don't know who you are in a nutshell, tell us what you did and why you went
public. Describe what you saw in Latin America. Well, you gotta remember one thing. I am not
an individual who comes up from the left or from the right, but I was
reared as a very patriotic family, coming from a very patriotic family and we all served our
country and so forth. And when I joined the DEA, I thought that by putting my life on the line
that I would make a difference. But it was there in Central America in my six years that I realized
that we were the enemy. We were sleeping with the enemy. We were involving drug trafficking and
when I tried to expose the whole issue, I remember Randy Capster, CIA official, saying to me,
you know, nobody's going to listen to you. You know, we've been doing this for years and nobody's
going to ever, ever stop us. He was absolutely right. Nobody has stopped them from doing their
drug trafficking worldwide. So you had CIA. And I saw DEA's participation in refueling planes
of cocaine into the U.S. and never been arrested, never been seized or anything. They were just,
you know, the Flacco Air Airport at the Elopango Airport. So they were heavily, definitely
involving drug trafficking. And you had individuals tell you, hey, buddy, you're never going to stop us.
That's right. I had a CIA official by the name of Randy Capster, who was down there for close to
seven, eight years, involving those covert operations. And, you know, he was involving train
of death squads and, you know, basically just about everything you could do covertly. And
in Central America, he was involved in. And I have about an hour long video that's just full
of clips of you on national television going over much of this in years past. And they're unable
to even challenge you. You've got to be worried a little bit about your safety, sir. Well, you
know, recently, to be honest with you, I've got some vehicles following me around, trying to,
you know, I could tell their government, you know, because of my experiences and how they,
when you approach them, they turn their face and they're on the cell phone. But I've been under
surveillance for quite a while now. But you're not afraid. You were a highly decorated sniper in
Vietnam. Exactly. Well, my point is this, you know, I've been in Vietnam, put it this way, I've been on bar time.
So I make my peace with God and, you know, be it would be it, you know, but I will fight till
the end and I will never, ever commit suicide. So I want to say that too. I will never commit
suicide. Kevin, you want to. It's a triple non-suicide pack. I will never commit suicide.
Yeah, you know, we're in a long haul. We need to fight these people, you know,
till the very end and whatever we have available, what little we have, we'll,
we need to continue fighting this because it's getting worse and it's going to get worse before
it gets better if it gets better. Talking about Gary Webb, Sally, I mean, he's dead, shot gun to
the face and they described his face from the sources and you got a call just two hours after
they found him. You were notified and that his face was basically unrecognizable. Well, a shotgun
doesn't do that if it's point blank. Shotgun only does that from a few feet away for the pattern
to expand and people don't normally commit suicide with a shotgun to the face. Can you comment on
what you learned about this? Well, I got a call from Michael Rupert who eventually he got his
information right away after the incident and, you know, he knew that there was a note had been
left and so forth and that he was planning to move that morning had the moves coming in
and they found that note on the door. You know, allegedly that thing did not come in, you know,
call 911 and call an ambulance. I mean, why on earth if you're going to commit suicide,
do you like to, you know, bring an ambulance if you shoot yourself with a, with a 12-gate
shotgun? Well, that sounds like the classic mafia activity blowing somebody's face off.
Well, you know what? And to be honest with you, I really think when I speak about government
people, I speak about Felix Rodriguez and his gun squads have been involved in all kinds of
assassination attempts, whether it's war or domestic. You know, Felix and his group are very
well documented as train assassins. Well, it's like Barry Seal. They just marched up machine gunning.
Exactly. And, you know, and they're playing a couple of Colombians with head and so forth,
but there's always people that are willing to take the fall for the agency.
Unbelievable. Again, Selly, just for the record, tell us about your position in the DEA.
Well, I was a senior agent in El Salvador. I mean, that's how serious the war and drugs
were at that time. You know, we had, we had two agents covering the four countries in Central
America. And, you know, I was assigned to cover El Salvador. Well, to be clear, I had read in
mainstream media reports that you were described as the senior DEA officer in Latin America.
Are those incorrect? No, no, those are correct. You know, I spent my time in New York City and
domestically, but I was a senior agent and I was in charge of El Salvador. And, you know,
we went out there and conducted this investigation. And so you'd signed on, you'd signed on to fight
drugs. When did you find out that it was the government controlling it? Well, from the very
good go, you know, I was, you know, when I got into Guatemala City and my country had to say
Robert Stee has said to me, you know, there's some funny things going on in Salvador and just
don't, don't step on anybody's toes and, you know, don't, don't report anything. And, you know,
everything comes to me and so forth. And sure enough, my source of information was a guy who
did all the flight plans for the, for the contra pilots that were heavily involving drug trafficking.
And it was very well documented of money being seized in the U.S. and drugs being seized in the
U.S. that came out of Villa Pango. There's no doubt about that. And we ourselves refuel some of those
planes with the anticipation of being seized in, in the U.S. when they arrive. But, well, there
have been cases where the local police bust planes on airports. This has been an Esquire magazine
and the people flash CIA, national security badges. Terry Reed was there and saw the cocaine at
Mina, Arkansas. I mean, they're countless, they're countless people who have actually witnessed and,
and, and seen all of this. And it's, you know, it's, it's no secret. Yeah. Well, you know what,
the thing about it, it indicates that Gary Webb was the fact that the contra story, the final report
Higgs and CIO facial admits that they were sleeping with the enemy. And that there was a,
an, an agreement between the CIA and the State Department of not reporting this incident.
And, and what's always interesting to me is, is for you to explain how, like the whole supply
chain of like how it got from Villa Pango all the way into the hands of Ricky Ross. And how did
Ricky Ross do this for years without even knowing who was really behind it, just to
get shared like the level of compartmentalization. Right. And see what happened was Ricky would not
ask any questions. Why? Because everything was fronted to him. I'm concerned. So, you know,
he, he, he cornered the market. He was like Walmart. He was able, everybody came to him from
all over the country and he started the major distribution points and, and we saturated the,
the country with cocaine. Well, I want to add this, the Colonel who was the head in Latin America
back in 1998 for all counter drug operations was caught shipping in masses of cocaine and heroin
into New York. And when I asked Barry McCaffrey about it, you know, he, he just literally turned
red and couldn't talk and the whole audience started clapping and laughing at him. And I mean,
that's another example. I mean, we've caught these people red handed, Selly. Well, you know,
we have a CIO facial in Venezuela who shipped a thousand keys of cocaine without the approval of
the DEA and then he was arrested and, and so forth. So there are incidents that are very well
documented that our government was heavily involved in drug trafficking. And, and there's no doubt
about that. I mean, the final report acknowledged the fact that it did happen and they turned a
blind eye to it. Kevin Booth, anything else you want to add from the interview you taped last night?
No, just, you know, I mean how you know that that I think Ricky was really sincere when
when he felt like a real lost with Gary's death, regardless of how he died or whatever that it
was a loss to him that he felt Gary was like a God sent in his life. And then that he probably
wouldn't even be alive right now if it wasn't for Gary exposing this story. All right, Kevin,
try to get back to your office and see if we can get that in the third hour. Thanks for joining
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Celica Stillo, the senior DEA agent for Latin America, helped contribute to a lot of
work. Gary Webb's Pulitzer Prize-winning work, exposing CIA drug-dragging, is here with us.
Chico Brown, associate of the biggest drug dealer in West Coast history, who is in prison who we
interviewed last night via telephone. We just gave you those revelations from the federal prison
he's in in North Texas. Again, Chico Brown, the associate of freeway Ricky Ross. Gary Webb shot
the shotgun, and he told freeway Ricky Ross on a phone conversation that he would come home and men,
obviously very highly trained. Government types was his term, which shimmied down the drain pipe
and runoff. And we were just talking to Selly. He gets followed. He said people going into his
house, taking photos. He's got CIA officials he knows was involved in drug trade. Selly's come
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TV shows and been on this radio show. It's an honor to have him. Of course, he was a sniper in
Vietnam, highly decorated. And he said, hey, he's on borrowed time. It's up to God. And same here.
We can't be cowards. We have to be men. If the men aren't men, we become slaves. Our women become
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Organized crime is seized control of the country. We're going to go to break and go to Chico here
in a few minutes. Can you talk about the mentality of your courage? I wouldn't call it macho, Selly.
It's just you're an honorable veteran and veteran of the drug war, veteran of Vietnam. You saw this
happening. Tell us why you do what you do and then describe for us the type of individuals,
the sociopaths that are becoming wealthy off this. Well, off the drug trade. Exactly. Basically,
you know, the way I was raised was, you know, you would thought what was right and what was wrong. And
basically, I've always stood by that and was always doing the right thing, whether, you know,
I felt about, you know, good about it or not, that, you know, I had to do the right thing. And when
I got working with the government, I realized that at the end of the day, we ended up being the enemy
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and the ambassadors about the atrocities that were occurring in our countries. And even at the
end when I left, you know, I, you know, my whole looked at life was the fact that I was looking
for a job when I found that. And to me, it was, you know, you have to do the right thing and
continue. And I did. I continued to talk about it after I left and documented one of the greatest
things that saved me, I think it's been my documents, my journals. I've documented just about
everything that happened in Central America. And I was an avid photographer. We signed it up,
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And you were there at the bases while the DEA was fueling the drug aircraft.
Exactly. We, you know, running a covert operation about undercover operations, refueling those
the place that we call the Islanders that were being refueled there, El Pango or in Guatemala.
And with the anticipation that they were going to be seized in Texas or in California,
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fact that, you know, nothing would ever happen. So the DEA was part of those court operations and
saturate in the whole country. And so for how long did you stay inside and covertly document?
Well, basically for six years, I did that in Central America, even though I was warned that if I
continued, so when once I was warned to stop my reporting, I knew that I was going to go full
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