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Well, so does he.
He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
Alright my friends, welcome to another live edition of the Alex Jones Broadcast.
Hard to believe another Monday is now upon us, the 16th day of August 2004.
And of course the websites freshly updated for you are Infowars.com, PrisonPlanet.com and PrisonPlanet.tv.
Paul Watson, who joins us at least once a week, will be joining us coming up here in about 20 minutes to go over a bunch of news and information that he thinks is important.
And then we have, well, an ultra-left-wing group coming on.
Some would say outright communist.
But to talk about the FBI and the visits that some of these leftist organizations have been getting,
We're good to go.
That's right.
The Iraqi authorities ordered foreign journalists to leave Najaf.
I always pronounce that wrong.
Yesterday, threatening to arrest or even shoot reporters as U.S.
Marines and Iraqi government forces resume the fight against Shia militants in their capital city.
And it says the fighting in Najaf, the epicenter of the revolt led by the Shia militant cleric,
Now, very interesting because we have an entire archive on prisonplanet.com with the Reuters and BBC and Associated Press where our troops were ordered to kill journalists.
American, British journalists have been killed.
Tanks have been ordered to aim into the Reuters floor of the Baghdad Hotel.
This is admitted.
And, of course, no one's getting in trouble for it.
When some Al-Siaida individual supposedly grabs a reporter and cuts their head off, the world screams and freaks out and goes crazy.
Which they should.
But when our government murders journalists, it's a good thing.
Well, I don't think it's a good thing, but police tell journalists to leave Najaf or be shot.
That's out of the London Telegraph.
Here's another one.
And this is out of the London Evening Standard.
Gunmen threaten to kill British journalists unless there's a U.S.
withdrawal from Najaf.
Now, wait a minute.
So, the LCIAs are threatening to kill the journalists, and then the
Open CIA-das are threatening to kill the journalist.
So either way, you've got the same thing.
Very, very suspicious.
And we'll be talking about that.
You're welcome to chime in on the subject.
Some of the other news here.
Porter Goss, in a TV interview, said that he wasn't qualified to be CIA director, but now that interview is surfacing, we'll go over that.
Also, Eurocorps
Takes command of peacekeepers in Afghanistan.
The new European army is trouncing and tromping around, globe-trotting right now, not just the new NATO force that's not just in the North Atlantic, but all over the planet.
And really scary articles here about citizen tattletale squads, a bunch of different articles, out fighting terror and crime, and crime, and crime, see?
Homeland Security certified terror and crime.
Spy on your neighbor.
Report them.
Did they discipline the child in front of you?
Do you smell marijuana?
That's terrorism.
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Monday, 16th day of August, 04...
As we accelerate into the Republican National Convention, a giant police state programming session for the entire population.
The campaign stops for the cousins, Carrie and Bush, the Skull and Bones buddies, are also little mini police state exercises with lots of police in black ski masks and armored vehicles shoving the public around the streets letting us know who the boss is.
Oh, there is so much news here, just masses of it.
Where should we start?
I mean, where to begin?
I would challenge all of you to begin at InfoWars.com or PrisonPlanet.com and to just daily go look at all the news that we've got posted there on the site.
It's just incredible.
I think we're good to go.
If a 10 kiloton nuclear weapon, a midget even smaller than the one that destroyed Hiroshima, exploded in Times Square, the fireball would reach tens of millions of degrees Fahrenheit.
It would vaporize or destroy the Theater District, Madison Square Garden, the Empire State Building, Grand Central Terminal, and Carnegie Hall, along with me and my building.
Is what the writer said.
The blast would partly destroy a much larger area, including the United Nations.
On a weekday, some 500,000 people would be killed.
Could this happen?
Unfortunately, it could.
And many experts believe that such an attack somewhere is likely.
We'll get to more of this fear-mongering report.
But I want to get into this first.
And whereas we saw maybe one of these a month three years ago, we now see two or three of these a day.
This is out of the Fairmont Sentinel.
Citizens on Patrol Introduced.
Now remember, last week we interviewed the Alabama Defense Forces
Aide de Camp to the General, and we had this guy on, and we linked over to their website, not just the photos that our listener took where we learned of all this at an Alabama football game a few months ago, at a college football game, but photos of these guys at the shopping malls and on the street corners searching eight-year-old girls with a hamburger and a cigarette in one hand and searching somebody's bag with the other.
Trying people how to live like slaves does absolutely nothing to keep us safe from the threat of Al-Shi'a-Aida.
And then I learned that all over the country this is happening, but it's the neighborhood watch, it's the high school children, the young people, it's everybody.
And of course there's no real terrorists to fight, and so every time you hear about a Homeland Security program, oh, a billion two for cameras in our city,
To fight terror and crime.
Oh, we put up $300 million worth of cameras for the political meeting we had in town last month, but guess what?
They're going to stay in place and spy on you and fight crime.
Oh, we want you to go out and look for terrorists and criminals, or signs of criminality, or signs of dumping motor oil in your backyard, or is the neighbor spanking their child?
Do you smell marijuana?
Why, that aids terrorists all immediately.
So, with the backdrop of 9-11 and things changed after 9-11, we've got to do things we never would have done before.
Well, then, why are you then... We never accepted a secret police Stasi America, Gestapo America, to fight crime in the past.
And it won't fight crime, by the way.
It'll actually increase it.
The better the police state gets, the more crime and more drugs we have.
But the point is that this whole backdrop, this whole atmosphere...
The war on terrorism is being focused upon the people.
Citizens on patrol introduced.
The national night out saw a good turnout Tuesday evening despite cool weather and last week's postponement.
Along with a free meal of hot dogs and root beer floats, the night out was an opportunity to meet with Fairmont police officers, firefighters, and Gold Cross paramedics.
The Fairmount K-9 unit gave demonstrations, and there was a simulated drunk driving accident with a driver arrested and a passenger extracted from the vehicle by emergency personnel and airlifted by Mayo 1.
There was also a new group introduced to the public Tuesday.
The Fairmount VFW has organized a group called Citizens on Patrol, or COP.
Serve their country in wars, and now they're serving their communities in Fairmont.
Police Chief Greg Brolsema.
One thing we wanted to do for the Post is to become more involved in the community, said Joe McAvey, one of the COP members.
The vets, they serve their community in a time of war, and coming home, they want to keep serving the community.
While community organizations come to us for money, we want to be more proactive.
We need to get outside the walls of the VFW.
Without the community, we won't be there.
And he goes on then to describe what they're doing.
Just getting started, they're going to be out in parks and in their neighborhoods.
They wear blue shirts.
And they say, when you see the blue shirt, you'll know that we're here doing this.
And it says, we're just getting started, but we'll do patrols as long as we're comfortable doing so.
And it goes on to say, it's all about making this a safer community, and what we're doing is just watching.
Oh, boy.
And, yeah, we know what you do.
I mean, this Alabama situation that I learned is in 30 other states.
They just issue military police armbands, camouflage uniforms.
They have their own armored vehicles, their own machine guns.
We have their own photos on our own website.
And they just go out with huge spotlights and shine them up in the sky.
It does nothing but train children how to live under this system.
I've got Associated Press reports with the Neighborhood Watch programs going, we're being taught how to look for women that look like they're pregnant but really aren't, or priests, or women with baby carriages, and we're going to fight terror and crime, and we're going to be watching our neighbors.
Meanwhile, right here in Austin, Texas, and across the country, I've seen literally hundreds of reports where the school children are given their own little tattletale digital card with a smart chip in it, and
They're given $200 per family member, neighbor, people in the school they turn in.
Hundreds and hundreds of school districts that we know of for an entire semester in the 6th, 7th, or 8th grade, depending on the school district, have a BAPF or FBI liaison, that is through a federal grant.
A local sheriff's deputy is deputized by the feds and teaches year-round.
Again, it's a semester class.
We'll teach two courses a year in there.
And we've read the reports.
We've got the documents.
It's in my film, The Takeover.
They sit there and have the children write a journal that's passed in every day, and the police officer reads it, and it's in the agreement that they, quote, are on the playground questioning the students and, quote, developing after-school relationships with them.
And now under the new draft, to graduate from high school, you'll have to serve in this and have to serve at checkpoint duty.
Or have to serve in fugitive apprehension or warrant service.
Folks, I have all the mainstream news articles.
Literal brown shirts, I'm sorry, blue shirts is what this particular group is going to wear.
The federal legislation that passed in 1998 to start this says they will wear gray uniforms.
So just myriad squads of people being formed everywhere.
And again, there's not going to be any real terrorists, you know, guys in turbans to fight with.
So it's going to be crime and fugitive apprehension and checkpoints and DWI.
And they're going to simulate these DWI car crashes, which they do all over the country, to heighten the fear and simulate terror drills and terror attacks.
They've got one of these...
Coming up in Austin on August 30th.
Already had one just last week that no one was told about.
The simulated events to psychologically condition us.
Here's another article.
This one out of the Christian Science Monitor.
In War on Terror, an Expanded Citizens Brigade.
And it says on a photo here,
Kamran Akhtar left a federal courthouse Tuesday at a hearing in Charlotte, North Carolina.
The Pakistani citizen was detained last month after being spotted making videotapes of Charlotte skyscrapers.
He has family that lives in Austin, we learned.
Well, he is a video buff and likes to videotape capitals and things.
I have to admit, folks, when I'm a tourist and when I have time to go on a trip, I, too, videotape landmarks.
I remember being a young child at the Hoover Dam taking a 35mm photo.
I've got it somewhere.
Will I be arrested next?
Again, setting that precedent, and clearly looking at this guy, he's done absolutely nothing, no connection to terrorists, but if you try to go to New York City and pull your video camera out, now to videotape the police, they run over and hit you on the head with a 2x4, basically, and say, you're a terrorist.
Why, we've got to get tough.
Mike Wallace argued with us.
We had to arrest him.
He asked, why are you doing this?
Well, sir, we're going to arrest you now.
Oh, you're chewing a candy bar aggressively.
Oh, you're sitting on a park bench in an improper fashion.
We have to arrest everyone.
Things changed after 9-11.
And it says now that they arrested this guy that the citizens are being recruited to call for the arrest of anyone seen with a video camera.
Meanwhile, they're putting cameras up everywhere looking at us.
Terrorists wouldn't need to take a video camera and videotape things because every major landmark is on online video feeds that the feds have that they encourage citizens to go look at and spy on.
It's ridiculous.
It's a complete joke.
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There's lots of battle in the news training you how to live under that.
But reporters are saying that you can just easily waltz right up to dignitaries, world leaders, and be 60 feet away.
And news agencies have done simulations of getting weapons in.
And folks that were there on the ground that we interviewed, who were there in Boston, it was all just for the cameras.
It was all just an illusion.
And it's the same thing with this Pakistani man, and they've arrested a lot of other people out with video cameras, videotaping landmarks.
Did you know that there are federal and state websites where they encourage the citizenry to go, quote, watch the surveillance cameras?
I mean, I can go online and look at all the surveillance cameras that are hooked into the grid in Atlanta, Georgia, New York City, Austin, Texas.
It's all right there, and suppose a terrorist knew this.
Terrorists could have hidden cameras.
Terrorists can go online and find photos of whatever landmarks they want from every conceivable angle.
This is insane!
Someone with no criminal record, no background, no connection to terrorists, gets arrested, and then now, you know, the Christian Science Monitor says that, oh, citizen tattletale squads are being formed to keep us safe after last week's terror warnings, which turned out to be four years old, but oh, those have been bolstered by a Pakistani in Austin and other cities videotaping things.
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Joining us is Paul Watson.
He's got a bunch of news he wants to go over and cover that, believe me, you'll want to stay with us for that.
But, Paul, I mean, this development of somebody's got a video camera, they're a terrorist, this is very convenient.
Well, yeah, and it's the same vacuum of common sense as is displayed with the Starsby Society article that you were just talking about.
I mean, it talks about people who request information at amusement parks.
We're good to go.
It's amazing.
I've talked to people who have had their neighbours called the Department of Defence because they stay up later at night than most other people.
The neighbours considered that they may be terrorists because they don't go to bed until 2am.
How crazy is that?
And what's, you know, more disturbing is that the DOD actually sent people around to investigate it.
Well, what they do is they create this atmosphere of fear.
Something must be done.
And when they get hundreds of thousands of little tattletale wannabes all lined up in their new uniforms, whether they're blue or gray or camo, just myriad organizations out there doing this now, there's no real terrorism to fight.
And as we said they would do, Homeland Security is going, okay, crime is terror.
Look for crimes.
Yeah, I mean, the definition of what they call suspicious behavior, that same line we hear over and over again.
In the fear-mongering leaflets, the ones that I've seen, which are sent out by the government in both the UK and Australia to every home.
We now have those here that are even worse.
And, you know, suspicious behaviour is defined as almost anything.
It's so broad that, you know, the kind of scum who've got nothing better to do than harass people who are minding their own business will jump on anything, call it suspicious and then call Homeland.
So it's about creating fear, just like in all major airports where they have these glass display cases showing the things that they had confiscated.
Everybody knows what a penknife looks like, but why do they have to put it out there to show people?
And it's to remind people of the fear.
It's to remind people of 9-11.
And a lot of this nonsense from the Stasi Society comes from us going to these airports and just accepting all this.
Well, here's an example.
I got a pair of shoes wet.
And they got all grimy, and so I got a can of Desonex, and it looks like powdered sugar or cocaine, and I was putting some in there, and it got on the counter, and I had a repairman coming over in about an hour, and I got the powder off the table.
Because I don't want them to, when they come in here, to see some Desonex antifungal powder on the table.
Because, folks, I see articles every day where stuff like that gets you a SWAT team rate.
That's all part of the freedom, Paul.
It makes you more conscious of it, which then inculcates that suspicion into you, so you do get hyper about it.
And, Paul, I'm not paranoid.
I've had a carpet cleaner almost call the cops on me for a shotgun.
Yeah, now they're putting these sensors in airports which test stress levels for suspicious behavior.
Stay there, Paul.
We're going to come back and get into all the top stories and take calls, and we've got some interesting guests coming up, too.
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We're talking to Paul Watson, he's my webmaster for the PrisonPlanet.com and PrisonPlanet.tv side of our InfoWarp.
Paul, let's go over the top stories on PrisonPlanet.com and what you think is most important right now, today.
Well, I think the main story is the threat to shoot independent journalists who don't leave Najaf.
Because, you know, any government that has to go to the length of threatening to kill journalists in order to stop them reporting on something has something pretty substantial to hide.
And in Iraq it's no different.
Yesterday they ordered all foreign journalists to leave Najaf or they would be shot.
Now, I want to stop you right there.
I have the London Telegraph.
I have the Associated Press in front of me, but it's not really on our nightly news.
You have to read the news wires.
You have a huge archive on PrisonPlanet.com.
I hope you can link this under this story for people, Paul, where they admittedly have targeted journalists.
Now, think of the open criminality of this.
And at the same time, guess what?
Al-Ciada, they're now saying that gunmen threatened to kill British journalists
Unless U.S.
withdrawal from Najaf.
So we've got both sides supposedly saying the same thing.
So Paul, go over more of the newest development, but let's go back over some of those past examples.
Well yeah, we know that the policy of eliminating independent journalists spans back before the war even started because it was reported by the BBC and on Irish radio that the Pentagon publicly stated that if satellite uplinks were detected in Iraq and around Baghdad that they hadn't authorised and approved
We're good to go.
I think?
And then you have cases like that of Mazandana, the award-winning Reuters cameraman who uncovered evidence of mass graves being dug where U.S.
troops were buried to hide the real casualty numbers from the U.S.
And he was, you know, shot in the head.
And there's video of the tank rolling right up.
He says hi to them and they machine gun him.
Yeah, and obviously these people, the tanks know that they're journalists because they wear the clothing which identifies them.
There's no shooting, no fighting going up, and Abrams rolls right up and kills him at 50 yards.
Yeah, and we know that they've tried to keep a heavy lid on those real casualty numbers, which is why you've got possibly thousands of troops buried in mass graves around Iraq.
The death of Terry Lloyd, the British journalist.
Again, that investigation later concluded that he was killed by U.S.
troops, but it only came out months later in the back of the paper.
Then you've had Italian, Spanish journalists all brutally executed on the spot, you know, if they filmed anything they weren't supposed to.
And then on top of that, of course, the mandatory shutdown of any newspapers who mildly criticized the authorities.
That's democracy at its best, Bubba.
Yeah, I mean, at the time, there was this big thing about, you know, oh, look, there are dozens of new newspapers cropping up everywhere.
We've given them freedom of the press.
Meanwhile, you know, they're bombing media buildings if they refuse to follow these shutdown orders.
And then we have a bomb threat of the media's hotel yesterday, and then it turns out it's not a real bomb threat, and our loving military with the Iraqi goons that they've hired are machine gunning it
Yeah, they're doing it because they're about to go into Najaf and level it like they did in Fallujah and there will be hundreds of civilian casualties which won't get reported on.
And now we've got Iranian journalists coming out and saying that the government of Iran, saying that they've been kidnapped by the government.
So, you know, just how many of these disappearing journalists have been the victim of these staged kidnappings?
Well, that's the point.
You've got some Iraqi security force people who formerly were tortured lords in Iran, admittedly, and you've got old fat guys dressed up, not the normal Muslim radical, all skinny and in shape, fat guys stumbling around in what obviously is fake beheading videos.
The body had obviously already been dead, even if it was real.
And then it looks just like Abu Ghraib.
And guess what?
The guy actually worked at Abu Ghraib.
I know he was in FBI custody and gets released and
Oh no, these vicious Iraqis our government's hired, they wouldn't cut somebody's head off to blame it on their enemies, would they Paul?
Well no, and one of the last beheading videos, I think it took place last week, it's hard to keep up with them now, there are so many of these staged kidnaps and beheadings.
Well, I personally checked the website from which it was uploaded, and it was based in Pasadena, California.
Just like, you know, they're either based in places like California, Texas, or London.
They're always uploaded from these locations.
Well, they're also uploaded directly from government websites in the facilities up in Arkansas, and then they upload fake videos, and it fools people.
I mean, this is getting ridiculous.
Yes, I mean, from front to back, it's about shutting down free speech and any criticism of the government.
I mean, people are hoarded and taken to the camp for, you know, shouting anti-coalition slogans was the statement in the Associated Press.
And the shutdown of all this free speech has got nothing to do with preventing dissent, you know, from causing violence.
All the violence and most of the car bombings from the evidence that we've looked at
Show direct involvement and obviously help the puppet government because it allowed them to pass the martial law provisions, the kind of, you know, where they go into towns and disarm everybody, where they set up 9pm curfews, and they had already prepared all these provisions.
Before the wave of car bombings escalated.
So it only helped the puppet government.
And now they've hired Mr. Negroponte, who admittedly ran death squads in Latin America.
They're sending this guy over to Iraq.
And let me boil something down for people that are just tuning in.
We've been talking about torture forever, because our governments trained the world how to torture.
They hired Nazis after World War II to train our troops...
How to torture.
That's congressional, bipartisan reports going back to the 70s, okay?
And so people who want to make excuses about all of this, you're literally with Klaus Barbie and Joseph Mingula now, and then you say, well, we're in a war, we've got to torture.
Well, what do you say to the Army's own reports saying children and women picked up for not having their papers in order or...
I think so.
The Pentagon's $6 billion program, P2OG, said it is about getting resistance.
It is about having a war.
It's about having a fight.
They don't want the Iraqis to love us, which they did, frankly, at first.
Most of them appreciate it.
They want it to get bad.
They want there to be resistance, because then the war can go on for a decade, like Vietnam, and the globalists can make not hundreds of billions, but over a trillion dollars in the aggregate out of it and use it as an ongoing crisis and destruction.
And that's what you've got to understand.
And so to all the people out there that have made excuses, that say, oh, go ahead and kill journalists, you know, Reuters reporters, on the street or in their hotel.
Go ahead and torture people to death.
What happened to you?
What happened to your soul, to your mind?
We're America.
We don't act like this.
And to begin with, it's not being done to win.
It's being done to infuriate and to create more resistance, Paul.
Well that's exactly the point and it's geared towards creating the very civil war which you know can then spill over to Iran and give them a pretext to invade Iran.
But on the torture point we now have this new article which shows us that many of the troops are aware of this and they actually try to prevent it.
This article out of the Oregon newspaper where the Iraqi police were caught torturing the prisoners
This troop squadron was sent in to basically save the prisoners, but then it was ordered back, ordered to leave, so the torture could continue.
Well, it's the same thing with the female General, what, Kulpinski?
She admittedly said, look, don't try to scapegoat me.
I was never even allowed in these wings.
I tried to stop it, and the documents got released.
So what they do is they go after somebody who's innocent.
So when she's found innocent, then, oh, see, the whole thing must be okay.
The private CIA contractors ran these areas.
So we support the troops, folks.
We don't support them being put in these positions.
Go ahead.
Well, again, this Oregon thing points out that it was coming directly from the top, and we know the name of the program.
It was Copper Green.
But then they throw out these fake photographs, like in the British newspaper The Mirror, where those photographs were fake, but in the exact same prison camp and the exact same troop squadron, they did the real torture a week after The Mirror announced that the pictures were fake.
And then out of that same unit, troops give them fake photos weeks before preemptively to neutralize that.
Yes, and with the case with the photos which were put out all over the internet which were nothing to do with Iraq.
They were taken from porn websites.
The Boston Globe carries them as real.
Days after it had been admitted that they were faked.
And beforehand, Paul, I looked at them and we put on the site that we thought they were fake.
Yeah, well, as soon as we looked at them, we thought they were fake, because they showed individuals who were obviously not of Iraqi descent being tortured and sexually abused.
You know, it was obvious to see.
But then the Boston Globe put them out after they'd already known that they were fake, and then publicly apologized the day after.
That's right.
Two days after it's admittedly fake, top news story, they publish them and then apologize the next day.
This is done on purpose.
On purpose, to make people think that, you know, each time this kind of thing happens, that it's fake.
It's to put out that feeling.
Well, here's an example.
I've had arguments with people on the streets.
They go, there's no torture, Alex.
Why do you keep saying it?
They admit all that's fake.
I go, the Army's own reports, two of them.
The Congress went and looked at thousands of photos and videos.
It's admitted.
Worse stuff than what we saw.
And they just shake their head and go, no, no, no, Alex.
I heard it's fake.
You're a commie liar.
And it was already out two years previously that the same practices were taking place at Guantanamo Bay.
That's where the program was transferred from, but there was no outcry at that point.
They did things and are still doing things that we can't even mention on the air, folks.
And you dovetail that with the LA Times article from August of 2002, which was entitled, No Leaders of Al-Qaeda Found at Guantanamo.
These people are, you know, shoemakers and...
You know, stonemasons and people like that, they were just thrown out onto the battlefields, and now they're in those camps to, again, give this perception that real terrorists exist and that we're being protected.
Meanwhile, the 8,000 Taliban al-Qaeda cream, as one special forces colonel said, were loaded on helicopters, flown to airfields, and flown out on C-130s, and even Fox News admits it, but goes, oh, it was just an accident, Paul.
You know, they just accidentally loaded 8,000 Taliban al-Qaeda on planes and flew them out.
Let's take calls here.
Wesley in Tennessee, thanks for holding her on the air.
Go ahead.
Good afternoon, gentlemen.
Alex, I've got a couple of real hardcore questions.
What I want to do is just go ahead and just run through this stuff.
Okay, go ahead.
And then I'll just hang up and let you guys have at it.
We have a situation today where we have Tweedledee and Tweedledum for candidates.
I mean, these guys are mirrors of each other.
And Kerry says he's now for the war even though there's no weapons of mass destruction.
You know, we've got two guys that are both members of... They're both bonzers.
They're both white about their military records.
One of them went over the wall.
The other guy got himself three phony...
Well, I'll tell you my answer to this is it doesn't matter.
The presidential election is staged.
The real focus should be at the county, city, state level.
There's no difference between Bush and Kerry, but what's your question?
Well, my question is this.
If we have ourselves in a situation where, regardless of...
The outcome of this election, I really believe that we already have preplanned terrorist attacks staged to happen probably before the election.
And with that in mind, where are we at and what can we really do at this point?
Okay, thanks for the call.
Good questions.
Number one, we can expose who has the motive for the terrorism.
The giving up liberty gives us tyranny, not security.
That they've done nothing to really keep us safe.
The borders are more open than ever.
They're releasing hundreds of thousands of felons in South Texas alone that are arrested.
Front page of the Houston Chronicle.
We've got to educate people that it is the military-industrial complex behind the terror to scare the people into being slaves of the government to be used for a national draft.
America is being forged into a weapon of empire, and we're being forged by the heat of fear of terrorism, Paul.
Well, yeah, I just find it interesting thinking ahead, you know, after it's likely Kerry is elected as he's been ordained by the Bilderberg Group and so is Edwards, so...
Let's take the presumption that there is no terror attack before the election.
Then at that point it's likely that Kerry will be elected.
And shortly after you'll see a raft of new wars launched on humanitarian grounds rather than, you know, threat to America grounds.
So it will be interesting to see how the left wing react to that.
If they support the humanitarian wars as they did with wars like the bombing of Serbia, which was crafted totally on a fraud.
The Belsen 92 so-called concentration camp footage, where it was a Serbian death camp.
Actually, it was a refugee camp.
So it would just be interesting to see how the left reacts.
And the barbed wire was around the pantry to protect the food.
Yeah, and then the people, the film crew were filming outside of the camp, on the other side of the fence.
The film crew were inside the camp, but they made it look as if, and they wrote a story, that the prisoners were inside the camp.
And the people were up against the fence begging for food, looking in on the inside.
Yeah, they singled out one emaciated man who had had a childhood disease which made him emaciated and skinny.
And they said, look, they're starving people to death.
Let's launch a war.
So it would be interesting to see how the left react to those kind of provocations.
Yeah, Newsweek and Time had that skinny guy with the disease.
And then, of course, you see the video later.
There's all these fat people on either side of him looking into the fence, begging for food.
It was a NATO base protecting itself with barbed wire.
Yes, it's just a different circumstance, but it's just as big a lie as weapons of mass destruction.
Well, then, remember Bill Clinton during the Serb War went down to the Albanian coast of the border with Hillary, and Hillary stood there and went, look at the barbed wire, look at the trains.
It's just incredible.
And at the same time, obviously, we have bin Laden and al-Qaeda helping them as it's come out publicly now.
So it'd be interesting to see how the left react when we see that cycle of propaganda come around again in 05.
They're going to love it.
They're going to love all the wars.
They're going to love the Patriot Act.
And they're going to have all the conservatives behind them, too.
So-called conservatives, Paul.
It's all part of the new freedom.
You'll all be psychologically tested for mental illness and forcibly drugged as well.
I'm not kidding.
It's all part of the new freedom.
Stay with us.
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We have the U.S.
military threatening to kill mainstream journalists if they don't pull out of another Iraqi city they're about to blow to bits.
And we have our own government admitting they've targeted and killed journalists, but
We get upset when Al-Qaeda kills journalists, Al-Ciata, but not when our own government does it.
We'll be talking more about that.
People being harassed by the FBI for political reasons, that's coming up.
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I do want to take just a few seconds out to thank Stephanie, who runs the broadcast up in Minnesota, up there at the main network, Studio A. I'm down here in Studio Q, you could say, in central Texas.
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But Paul, let's jam a few calls in here.
Michael in Colorado.
Oh, Alex, Paul.
Yes, go ahead, Michael.
Good morning, thanks for taking my call.
First of all, I wanted to say great job on Prison Planet TV, Paul.
It's a great website, and I want to encourage all your listeners to get involved with that.
A lot of good information.
I want to let you know we're here in Colorado.
Thank you.
We're working on some of the issues that you talk about on a daily basis, including 9-11.
We formed a 9-11 group, and we're having a 9-11 town meeting Friday night with special guest speaker Ellen Mariani.
And, of course, she's one of the widows.
That's right.
We're trying to get the word out.
We're making copies of videos.
We're getting flyers out.
We're planning a march on...
September 11th in downtown Denver.
Where is this meeting going to be located?
The meeting is going to be at Unity Church in Boulder, Colorado, and the address is 2855 Folsom Road.
If they want to get a hold of me, I can give you a website.
Yeah, give us the website, but tell us the date and time.
Yes, it's going to be Friday night.
That's August 20th at 7 o'clock.
And the website where they can get a hold of me if they have any questions is Greeley, and that's G-R-E-E-L-E-Y-D-O-R-D-C, and that stands for the Bill of Rights Defense Committee, and that's at .org.
All right, or just type into Google, Greeley, Colorado, Bill of Rights Defense Committee.
Okay, anything else?
No, that's all, Alex, and thanks for taking my call.
Keep up the good work.
Thank you.
This is really a key part of the solution, is every town, every city, every year, having a march, saying the government's behind it, having it be right out in the open.
More of us standing up is the answer.
They can't deal with that, can they?
Last time I was on the show, we were talking about Austin, Texas being a stronghold.
People need to rally and make every city around America a stronghold because then that only makes us stronger.
It fortifies our movement.
Putting on conferences...
Putting together Patriot Act resolutions, that's the kind of activism that really gets the job done.
And it's something you can really sink your teeth through at the same time.
And there's a willing audience out there.
I mean, I went out there and handed out flyers before a Michael Moore showing, and every single person that we talked to had at least some knowledge of 9-11 and the fact that the official story was a myth.
So there's a receptive audience out there, more so than ever before.
And we're talking about the future of humanity, of civilization here.
The globalists have said in their own planning documents they will use terror, they will manufacture terror, they will carry out terror to bring in their new world order.
Are you going to let them do it?
And a lot of these people are cowards out there.
But as Mark Twain said in the beginning, a patriot is a scarce man hated and feared, but in time when his cause succeeds, the timid join him because then it costs nothing to be a patriot.
We've got to be the first over the barbed wire, the first to hit the enemy in the Infowar.
We've got to be the shock troops, folks, or it's over.
And I'm honored to be a shock troop in the fight for humanity.
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A member of the American Friends Service Committee who received a surprise visit from the FBI at her home, Sarah Bradwell.
We posted it on the website.
I'm sure somebody called them and warned them not to come on.
I mean, I wasn't going to attack them.
I don't agree with what the Quakers are up to.
I mean, you talk about communist folks.
You're looking at it.
But the point here is, is mainly they're a bunch of useful idiot bleeding hearts, because I know some of them here in Austin.
But regardless, why are they getting visits from the FBI?
And I wanted to ask the Quakers, you know, you guys didn't defend the Patriot Movement when Bill Clinton had the FBI crawling all over us for absolutely no reason, and, you know, the FBI and BATF bearing pipe bombs in people's backyards.
They were caught doing that, by the way, to frame the population.
But I will defend your First Amendment and expose what's happening.
I mean, we've got Green Party members that can't get on airplanes, no criminal record, 60-year-old women.
On the no-fly list.
We've got land rights activists, conservatives who can't fly.
And if we let this happen to anybody, it's going to happen to everyone.
It's like the left wants to have preachers arrested if they read out of the Old Testament criticizing homosexuality, but they don't want to have their protesters locked up in cages, inside cages, underneath bus stations.
Or out on the side of the street you try to protest George Bush with his 500 pro-Bush supporters and you get arrested.
And then they give you a felony conviction for it.
I mean, how is that America?
So we better all hang together or we'll hang separate.
We better, all of us, defend the First Amendment, even if you disagree with what somebody's saying.
But this attitude of there being no First Amendment is sweeping the country right now.
I mean, even here in Austin, Texas, the New Access TV board, in their own minutes, says, well, we can't have speech anymore that criticizes other groups because that hurts their feelings.
Well, you know, you're free to speak as long as you don't hurt someone's feelings.
I mean, this is the new attitude.
I even hear this from supposed conservative broadcasters that are out there.
So 1-800-259-9231.
I wanted to get Sarah Bardwell on, and we'll see if we're able to get her.
I rarely have guests drop out on us, but usually it is the leftists who do that.
So that's fine.
But we've got Paul Watson with us.
And we're about to go back to your calls, but Paul, do you have any comments about anarchists, conservatives, liberals, pinkos, across the board getting government visits, professors being arrested who have no criminal records, who are white guys because they put on an art display with Petri dishes at the college art display to illustrate the dangers of genetically modified foods, a little science project to illustrate the dangers.
They get arrested and charged with the Patriot Act.
Well, it is hideous to contemplate that we're really at the stage where, you know, kids who wear anti-Bush T-shirts get a knock on the door from the Secret Service and the students who grasp them up get rewarded by the principal of the school.
And we've got many examples.
I mean, the guy who hung an upside-down American flag in his backyard, his neighbours called the police.
And then on the left,
The anti-war activist in Auckland who sent an email to the US Embassy protesting the Iraq War was charged with misuse of a telephone.
You know, people like the young child who did a research paper, the 12-year-old on the Chesapeake Bay Bridge got a visit from the Joint Terrorist Task Force.
So it's across the political spectrum that this is taking place.
Well, also, that university there in San Francisco...
The old white guy, imagine if you were an Arab, he's in the architecture class, and they hand out the architecture lesson, and they're to go out and sketch four bridges, and so he goes out and does it.
Folks, I had art classes where we had to do that.
Go sketch architecture, and they come and grab him and question him.
I mean, it's ridiculous.
We are.
I mean, people who refuse to wear, to remove, you know, anti-war t-shirts in a shopping mall are arrested.
It's down the line.
But on the left-right point, the rhetoric at the moment is against people like Muslims and homosexuals
If Kerry gets in, the rhetoric will switch to be directed against people like pro-lifers and gun rights activists.
But the bottom line is that the movement will be the same.
And yet now you have people like Bill Clinton out on talk show circuits bashing the Republicans while in every public meeting he's pictured hugging and laughing with Bush Jr.
and Sr.
So the rhetoric will shift, and then the left-wingers will overwhelmingly get behind it if Kerry gets in.
So, I mean, we're pointing out that it's wrong right across the political spectrum.
Well, also, you know, I listen to the Genesis Network all the time, and I'm about to go to your calls, but I never make comments about other shows.
But there's a veterans program on on the weekend that I think is a great show, and I've been a supporter of it, but they had some guests on.
And I heard him out of his mouth say, John Kerry is pure evil, big liar, which is true.
Then he said, and I think George Bush is incapable of telling a lie.
And I almost called in, but I didn't waste my time.
I mean, I wanted to call in and go, he said the biggest amnesty in history isn't an amnesty where they're going to pay to bring the illegals here.
That was in the Washington Times again on Thursday.
Of last week.
I mean, he's done nothing but lie.
Hundreds of giant lies.
And here are conservatives.
I mean, people I've listened to and heard who know Bush is corrupt and know he's doing all these bad things to the veterans.
Suddenly, kind of this group think, oh, we can't let Kerry win.
We've got to get behind Bush.
That's all psychological.
You don't have a dog in this hunt, folks.
You don't have a choice.
They're going to put in who they want, but they want you to feel like you do and be part of this polarization process.
Can you speak to that, Paul?
Well, yeah, it's like a sports-like mentality whereby someone will get behind their team and support their team all the way, even if they lose a game every week.
So if Bush lies every week, then they're still going to support Bush because they've boiled politics down to that sports mentality.
But the guest said, and I want to get his name and get him on, I was driving down the road and didn't have a pen.
The guest said, just all worshiping Bush and Bush is so godly, Bush is so good.
He is incapable of telling a lie.
Everybody else is capable of it and are sinners, but not Bush.
And I hear more and more of this talk about where he's almost a god or something.
Yeah, because he throws out the fake godly Jesus-like rhetoric, which then people pick up on, while at the same time he's visiting Bohemian Grove.
So, I mean, it's amazing that they will do that, but as you've said many times in the past, people associate their power with their identified leader, and so they're not going to go against them, you know, in any short-term...
So that's the situation.
And it's hard to wake these people up.
But we need to point out the evidence, point out the fact that Bush does lie every week, but he's simply reading off a script, and reading badly off a script in many cases, and point out to them that both the left and the right, it's all about rhetoric.
The agenda remains the same, to restrict rights, to create a police state, a surveillance society, while launching wars abroad.
And I mean, the war's coming to our shores.
So we need to point out that
It's all rhetoric and no action.
It's the same movement from both sides of the equation.
It is, Paul.
You're absolutely right.
And my point is that six months ago, a lot of conservatives were really waking up the bush.
And now, even some of those people I know are going, yeah, I know he's bad, but Kerry.
Folks, again, there is no election.
I'm telling you.
It's a staged event.
They're cousins.
We're good to go.
I mean, people will back Bush all the way, but when Kerry gets in, which he probably will, I think the rhetoric will shift against conservatives for the first few months of his presidency.
Then you'll see some kind of attack, and then all the conservatives will rally back behind Kerry.
And then you'll hear Fox News going, hard to believe, but we've actually got to support him.
He's gotten tough.
This president has transformed himself.
Yeah, because they'll roll out the phony patriotism, which is America needs to unite, and it's not about allegiance to America.
And then the neocons will actually sit there, you know, in their armchairs and go, man, I actually like him.
You can't believe I'm saying it.
It's about allegiance to the establishment, no matter which party is in charge.
And that's exactly what fear creates.
It's about uniting America behind the government, not behind America or the ideals of the founders or what America stands for.
It's about uniting America behind the New World Order, whoever's in charge.
It's the same policies that get passed each time.
Let's go to calls.
I'm going to go to your calls quick after the break, but let's go ahead and start now.
Who's up first, Stephanie?
Manuel in Pennsylvania.
Welcome, sir.
How you doing, Adam?
Good, my friend.
Now you talk about being vocal out there and up front.
When Emperor Bush came to town, we were able to protest him.
Media coverage was deplorable, of course.
We did line the whole expo center, right up to the fringe where he was.
Of course, we don't get nowhere near a secure perimeter, but we were out there in the public eye.
His reception by the general public was at best lukewarm, although the media had a picture with a caption, York hails the chief.
With a picture of a youthful idiot painting on the storefront something to the likes of Welcome Bush.
Although we were able to get out there.
No, I know.
I've actually been at protests where there's, you know, a thousand people protesting somebody and there's 20 people there for them and the news will have the front page to 20 people.
Well, nobody wanted to go see him.
They had actually let people rush in through the gates at the last minute because no security checks.
Because actually, nobody was able to go, nobody actually wanted to go see him and buy tickets.
We also had Chief Moose come down here and we confronted him.
He was with our new bigwig West Point graduate commissioner touting some police state policies, telling us all to go to sleep.
But my third point, the biggest point, Ann Coulter's extra-militant protege, Michelle Malkin, is now touting a new book where she is calling for civil internment and concentration camps for those who can potentially be deemed terrorists, even if they're American citizens, right here in the local hall.
Yeah, I want to get Malkin on, and the folks can email me.
Guess what?
He will be...
On our local radio show, WSBA here in Central PA, and I will be confronting her also on the airwaves, and I'll make sure a couple of my friends do.
We'll run her off the air like she's never seen before.
Is she the Chinese lady?
She is of Asian descent.
Yeah, I mean, and I've heard about this.
She's out touting putting people in camps now.
Also, Michael Medved.
Manuel, you need to stay there.
We'll come back to you, okay?
I want to hear exactly what you heard her touting.
The loving camps, the freedom, you disagree with the government, you hate terrorists, you should go to a camp.
They're all starting to talk like this because we're beating them with the truth and they can't stand it and they want to be concentration camp gods.
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We've had arresting anyone that disagrees with the government.
Live or forget, almost two years ago, they had the Deputy Attorney General in California, Calhoun, in the Oakland Tribune going, we may ban anti-war protests because protesting the war-age terrorist, we may arrest you.
And then they have the neocons out doing it.
And yeah, Michelle Malkin, I agree with her on some issues, but then all of a sudden she gets even more hardcore than Coulter.
I have heard about her new book.
We're going to try to get her on.
But talking to Manuel.
Manuel, you heard her talk about the camps.
What did she say?
And of course, since she's a person of, quote, color, she's going to be their little poster child.
See, I love the camps.
It's not just for people of color.
It's for everyone.
Tell us about it.
Well, after she had this
And also,
This all started, sir, with Michael Medved.
About two years ago, I was hearing a repeat broadcast, first time I had ever heard the show, where he said that everybody that was at that, of course it was a left-wing, pretty communist-organized rally down in D.C., hundreds of thousands, against the war.
He said they're all potential terrorists, and Homeland Security should direct all their focus and energy on them.
Yeah, he said the same thing about me, and of course it's not going to be on the commies, it's going to be on the patriots.
Thanks for the call.
Paul, quick comment on that, then we'll go to Fred and Eric and George and Paul.
Well, yes, it's universally agreed now that the internment of the Japanese Americans was wrong, and, you know, that was during World War II when there was at least a semblance of a threat.
But now, the justification for it does not exist.
I mean, like this reporter who got a job at the Olympics with no questions asked and then spent the opening ceremony planting packages everywhere with a name tag which said Robert Bin Laden.
I mean, none of this security is to stop terrorism.
If there really were these roaming groups of terrorists who were determined to attack at the levels to which the government scare mobs... They would shut down the borders and start deporting anybody questionably who was here illegally or who had not signed their name correctly.
Yeah, and on the same level, you'd see small-scale attacks every day.
If there were supposed Al-Qaeda cells all over America, you know, it would be worse than Israel.
Yeah, we see the Israeli model, yeah.
Somebody could, you know, put a log on a train track, kill dozens of people and call it a terrorist attack, but that doesn't happen because there are no terrorists, and the security police state is only designed to affect your life.
There's nothing really to defend against, albeit there is from outside the borders, which is why the borders are wide open.
Fred in Philadelphia.
Welcome, sir.
Let me bring up, first of all, I want to endorse Mike and his efforts in Greeley, Colorado.
The Bill of Rights Defense Committee is one of the organizations that is correct in getting the facts and in fighting Patriot II.
I would like to get in touch with Mike and Manuel, to be honest with you.
I think that they're the kind of people that we need to network with.
I want to bring up this SAIC, that Scientific Applications International Corporation.
This is an extremely powerful, employee-owned CIA front, and they are
Now, and have been since about, oh, I would say 03 or 02.
In charge of the certification for the election, the deponing elections.
No, I know.
Look, Bush appoints this new commission, gives them almost $5 billion.
They recommend preparing to suspend the election.
They recommend all the electronic voting machines try to force the states to take them.
Then the people that are overseeing the elections are known CIA-controlled fronts.
Of the five big election companies, three of them are run by former heads or deputy heads of the CIA.
The other is run by the former head of the NSA.
And their own employees quit and say it's all a fraud.
I mean, it's so transparent, Paul.
Well, Ian, it's about, as I've said before, making people think that voting is a privilege handed down to them by government.
And any God-given right that we already have is a privilege handed down to them by government, which means, obviously at the same time, that government can take away that privilege at any point, which is why they then talk about cancelling the election.
And martial law and all the rest of it.
Well, I want to ask Paul...
Paul, did you... I mean, Joyce has mentioned this about the Chuck Hagel election in 96 and 2002.
Briefly, basically, was that a good example or an infamous example of some sort of...
His total votes just rising suddenly at the end.
Did you know about this?
Yeah, sure.
We'll talk about it when we get back.
Thanks, Fred.
Yeah, Chuck Hagel owned the voting machines that 80% of the people cast ballots on for him.
This is the new America.
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Going back to Paul Watson, Fred raised the case of Chuck Hagel.
Senator Hagel was behind 15 points in the polls, just like Michael McCaul here in Austin, Texas, who voted on machines that his father-in-law owns, the owner of Clear Channel, a division of Clear Channel.
We've got the case of Chuck Hagel, and he was wanting to ask you about that.
Were you familiar with it?
Not familiar with that case, no.
Well, I am, and I already kind of mentioned in the last segment, he was way behind in the polls.
The state hadn't gone Democrat in 20 years.
I mean, hadn't gone Republican in 20 years.
But he owns.
I mean, he's not a shareholder.
He owned.
He's now, quote, divested a part of it.
Well, in a sense, they've got both bases covered because they can just go ahead and cancel it anyway.
I mean, we're told that terrorists seek to take measures to ensure the election is cancelled, and then the government says that they're considering cancelling the election because terrorists seek to cancel the election.
So what are they telling you?
Well, we also, again, have in Najaf,
This is mainstream news.
London Telegraph, you name it.
Our government is telling the reporters, we're going to kill you if you don't leave.
And they give them a fake bomb threat to the hotel.
And then our Iraqi security forces start machine gunning the building.
And we have a whole section where our troops have been ordered to kill reporters.
We're talking BBC Associated Press folks.
But no one's ever held accountable for this.
And then meanwhile, the supposed terrorists come out and say, yeah, you better leave or we're going to kill you.
So I wonder why our government and the terrorists are on the same page, Paul.
Well, they are in every case because they have the same goals, which is to eliminate freedom.
As Bush said, the terrorists attack us because they hate our freedom.
And after the attack, the terrorists did indeed take away our freedom.
So they're on the same page.
Let's go to Eric in Tennessee.
Eric, you're on the air.
How are you doing, Alex?
How are you doing, Paul?
What I was calling about, first of all, I wanted to ask you a question, Alex.
I sent that tape where Senator Grassley and Janet Reno...
Had that exchange about the military being involved in Waco and Ruby Ridge.
I wondered if you had gotten it.
I did get it.
I want to thank you and every other listener that sends us videos.
Well, you're more than welcome.
What I want to bring up today to you and Paul was I've read this weekend more articles, especially in conservative newspapers and websites, that the Republican Convention, there's going to be hundreds of thousands of demonstrators come up, and they're talking about it being like a Chicago 1968, and I'm
I've got a terrible gut feeling that we might be seeing another Kent State or another Tiananmen Square developing at the end of this month.
I want to get your opinion on that.
I'm strongly considering going.
You are?
I've read a few decent articles from World Net Daily in the past, but I'm getting worried about their opinion sometimes.
They're already demonizing.
It was an article from the 16th today.
Will Republican Convention be a Chicago 68 madhouse?
And in that, it's just a demonization of the leaders of different demonstration groups.
That they're communists, that they're going to cause problems, that they're anarchists, and it's just going to get out of hand.
Okay, let me stop you right there.
In my film, The Takeover, we show the police, the newspaper, admitting that the Delta Force...
They controlled the anarchists.
They hired them.
They trained them.
You saw it.
They housed them in a government building.
They were sent out to beat up cops, to burn trash cans.
50 of them.
50 bad guys, 50,000 good protesters.
Farmers, ranchers, communists, conservatives, liberals.
Everybody against the WTO, World Trade Organization, having more authority over our trade than our Congress.
Most diverse protest I've ever seen.
And then these 50 anarchists show up, and they openly hit cops in the head with bottles.
I mean, there's video of them hitting cops, and the cops are ordered, which I should think would be an illegal order, to take it.
I mean, I've got cops hitting the ground, and they're told to stand there.
Then those guys, after one day of that, the news shooting video, going, what's wrong with these cops?
Why don't they do something?
They pull back, are guarded by the police, this is on the news, in a government building, giving food and everything else, and then they turn towards the 50,000, who we have on video, trying to fight the anarchists, people trying to stop them, going, you're a fed, what are you doing?
These are agent revocateurs.
The police then, mad because they had to sit there for a day, psychologically manipulated, and some cops were going, why do we protect the guys that did this, but now we're attacking the innocent?
They're then released to savagely beat 75-year-old women with clubs, to savagely stomp on young women, to pull cars over randomly.
Then they say, free speech is banned.
No more free speech.
In fact, Stephanie, in my commercial carts, there's an ad for Police State 2, The Takeover.
Can you find that one and play that in a second?
Because it's got some of the clips in it from local newscast folks and others admitting it.
Then they put 500 peaceful people in the Sandpoint Naval Brig in a FEMA camp.
So, then they took video from Seattle, and cops, you've seen this in your own police departments, the feds come and show it to you, but don't tell you they hired the thugs, and then you go out and they say, you've got to be tough on them, and then you're ordered to attack peaceful people.
Now, whereas ten years ago you didn't have problems at protests, now everywhere the cops almost always attack people for absolutely no reason.
So could this happen?
It'll probably happen because there were going to be hundreds of thousands of people in Boston.
Just a few thousand showed up because they were afraid.
I don't think anything can keep people from showing up to the Republican Convention.
And will there be provocateurs?
I've been right here in Austin four years ago at the Fortune 500 demonstration.
With only about 600 people, and here come cops in anarchist outfits starting fights, and I said, these are cops!
And cops ran across the street and said, back off, Jones!
And they had to admit that they were police.
So, Paul comments to what Eric just said.
There will be provocateurs because there was an interesting article in the New York Daily News a few weeks ago which said that anarchist groups are going to plant threatening notes on the New York subway to distract the police from focusing on the real protesters on the ground.
So obviously that's not going to help their cause.
It's a provocative action because it's going to be a big fear-mongering tool whereby, you know, the subways keep getting searched.
And then those guys aren't going to get busted.
In some cases, they're police themselves.
They're not going to get busted.
It'll then be a zip-faced kid in Topeka, Kansas, and they'll arrest him on the news.
Yeah, regarding whether there'll be an attack.
As I've said before, I think you could take the example of when Bush came over to Britain.
There were massive protests, but there was an attack in Turkey which kind of subdued the protest and reaffirmed his rhetoric.
So it's more likely you'll see an attack abroad to reaffirm the rhetoric at the convention rather than an attack in New York.
I tend to agree with you.
Eric, thanks for the call.
George in Canada.
George, go ahead.
Good day, Alex.
Shakespeare said it long before we were here.
The world's a stage and every actor plays his part.
But the people who write the scripts, they really know how to party.
They do.
One thing I'd like to bring up, Alex, I was reading in the National Post something that was parroted in the New York Times yesterday, that the United States is going to start pulling troops out of Europe, Japan, and South Korea.
Already starting.
And, oh, of course, because they need them.
They need them badly.
Because there's a broader, wider war being planned, I'm sure.
The timelines are probably a lie and a cover story that it's going to happen over the next three to four years.
But I think you're going to see major, major events happening in the Middle East.
There's been warnings from the President about Iran to stop their nuclear plutonium enrichment.
Israel's saying that the plant is 90-plus percent done, and the moment it's done, or 95 percent, they're going to bomb it?
And the Iranians say that they will fight for every last grain of sand and then some.
So I expect a major conflict there.
I would even put a timeline on to say I would expect it before the next election, because Mr. Bush has to do something.
Well, I know this.
We've got... Well, Bush is a puppet.
He'll do what he's told to do, but... We've got...
O'Reilly and all the neocons calling it World War III, World War IV.
Get ready for it.
Gotta have a draft.
It's good.
And look, if Bush is ordered to stand down by the Bilderbergs to put Kerry in because he can get more done now that they've double-teamed us, that'll happen.
Unless there really is a Fisher in the New World Order, then we could see a terror attack by the Bush arm to try to keep him in office.
But again, they control the voting machines and the new voting commission that put them in.
So I don't know what's going to happen.
Paul, what's your gut level?
Well, it's interesting that obviously they're gearing up for this attack on Iran because obviously Russia have supplied the majority of the nuclear components for Iran to develop that nuclear program.
But at the same time, we have the BBC article which described the UK government's contribution to that same program and described it as a shopping list.
Also, we've caught Israel selling components to Iran.
Why would they do that?
And then selling U.S.
components to China, who they know openly gives it to Iran.
Why would Israel do that?
And then at the same time, China threatening to invade Taiwan in 2005 or 2006.
And I think we're going to see that.
I think you're going to see America tied down in the Middle East on purpose, and they're going to let China take that.
And then, oh, through the heightened fear with China, we're going to have to have that draft, Paul.
And frankly, I hope that's the scenario they go with.
It's better than nuking a city to get us all behind this.
I think you'll see nuking the city, Alex.
I'm going to cover that next hour.
We'll get Paul's take on it.
I want to keep him a little bit in the next hour with us.
An American Hiroshima is possible.
This is out of the Seattle Post-Intelligencer, but it was written out of the New York Times.
Just out of control.
Anything else, George?
Well, there are two signs to a state in decline from an old Austrian political science book I read.
One, ministers do not take responsibility for their actions.
And two, you put your party before your country.
Don't put your party before your country.
Vote for your country.
Vote for the other alternatives.
All right, thanks for the call.
Well said.
Let's talk to Paul in Delaware.
Paul, you're on the air.
Go ahead.
Hi, Alex.
Hi Paul, I really enjoy your work.
I like your analysis today and I really want to hear more of you, Paul Watson, on the show.
I appreciate the website PrisonPlanet.tv and also I want to give a shout out to Manuel who is also doing a good job.
Now I want to comment to the communist that didn't come on your show.
I have the same problem and you do with Sean Hannity also besides the communist.
People don't want to debate you because they don't like your attitude or your spirit or you might get weird on them or something like that.
So I would really like you Alex or someone like you that really knows your subjects and you know every little juicy detail about everything.
I don't know everything.
Well you don't know everything but you do know a lot of different issues going on.
I'm just surprised that you haven't covered and it's old news whether we went to the moon or not.
Before you get off the phone right now, don't talk about me because the call is not about me.
It's about the issues.
I would like to ask you, what do you know about James M. Collier and his work on the moon and his book, Vote Scam, the Stealing of America?
Well, we've got to end this segment, but I'll comment on it when we get back.
I mean, I think Mr. Collier did great work.
I know his information about the voting is dead on.
I've interviewed his daughter and him before he died many, many times.
So to show my ignorance, I didn't even know he'd done something on the moon.
But we'll be right back, and I guess we can talk about the moon.
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Of course, it turned out he's not really inside our...
He's had so many heart problems, he's been spending most of the time at hunting lodges in Wyoming and Utah and Montana.
So it's just a bunch of propaganda.
But we know Cheney will be in the bunker when there's a big attack.
Coordinating things.
We know that.
We're going to end the shower here in a minute and go...
Back to your calls and then into this story and a bunch of other news.
Paul, I want to plug your book and my book here in just a second, but first off, what's some of the other news you want to cover, not just this Dragonfire situation in the next hour?
I think we need to cover the further comments of Porter Goss about the domestic involvement of the CIA, especially in light now we know of this bill.
He was behind back in June, which basically...
Open the doorway for that exact process to take place.
A domestic CIA quote in his bill arresting Americans.
You have the AP article posted on both sites.
Yes, I mean, why did he say big brother or dead brother when he's supposed to be the director of the CIA, which operates abroad?
Okay, and then briefly, and we'll get into details on that in the third hour, but the Moon situation, I mean, this caller every week begs me to talk about this, and I'm going to get some guests on about it.
I just really, overall, see it as a distraction.
You can't prove it any other way.
If you disagree with me, though, tell me.
Well, I would say that the official record that we were shown is a hoax.
I think we've been to the moon because technology is 50 years advanced of what we know, but I've got a six-hour video which is a scientific presentation of the evidence.
I mean, strings pulling the astronauts up off the ground when they fall over, you know, the astronauts opening their visors up and laughing.
There were reports which were in newspaper articles in Australia where people saw during the live feed coke bottles roll across the moon's surface the inability to get past the Van Allen radiation belt in what amounted to a tin can using the same background landscapes when they were supposed to be on entirely different parts of the moon.
No, I've seen it.
It's stunning evidence and we'll cover that then.
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Go ahead.
Yes, I just wanted to add a couple auxiliary comments to what you were discussing regarding that turkey Chuck Hagel.
Last month, when you had Bev Harris on your program, the Baltimore Sun,
...reported that the same machines that Tricky Chuck Hagel used to manipulate the elections in Nebraska are the same machines, the same exact machines that were sold to Julio Chavez, and they have the ability to be remotely manipulated, and it wouldn't surprise me if Julio Chavez used the same tricks that Chuck used to get himself elected there.
Now, I just want to move on to something that I read in the Kansas City Star.
Let me just stop you for a minute.
What is wrong with someone owning the voting machines that everyone votes for them on?
Well, according to Bill... I mean, that sounds like freedom to me.
When the candidate owns the company, runs, is way behind in the polls, but magically wins.
That sounds like freedom to me, sir.
He's also a Bilderberg Group member.
He's a very good person.
And let me add one other thing that Bill Harris also mentioned.
He failed to disclose the fact that he had this serious conflict of interest in owning these machines prior to the election.
Well, that's freedom, sir.
He might be with Al-Qaeda.
How dare you ask questions about the election?
You shouldn't do that.
That's evil.
This is America or something?
But this is the New World Order.
But your next comment about Kansas City.
Yeah, the Kansas City Star reported, and this is in harmony with something that you said earlier about Calhoun out of California making some statements about anti-protest marches should be arrested or something like that.
Yeah, the Democrats love the neocons.
Yeah, if you go to the Nation and World section of the Star News today, and I think you may have had this lady on your program, Denise Lieberman from the ACLU,
Sid mentioned that there were three protesters pursued for three days basically dogged because they had planned on attending the protest up in Boston.
Dogged for three days by the FBI on the, well they claimed that they were possible terrorists according to the story.
To prevent these young men from attending that protest, they issued subpoenas to them.
So on the day they were to attend the protest, they couldn't because they had these subpoenas.
And again, that just sets the precedent to do this to everybody.
The real anarchists work for the feds.
Thanks for the call.
Comments, Paul?
Well, picking up back on the Chavez vote fraud point, we got the article on prisonplanet.com, Venezuela's Chavez claims victory foes cry fraud.
It's not unimaginable that he would do that, but at the same time we know that the CIA has planned on several occasions coups to remove Chavez.
They've been kidnapping before.
Yeah, they've been court funding the opposition, the protesters against him.
So we know Chavez is independent of the New World Order in terms of he doesn't want Venezuela to be a part of it, but that doesn't...
Very possible.
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Let's talk to Chris.
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How are you doing today?
I wanted to touch on a story I saw in the Los Angeles Times on August 7th.
It says, unmanned aircraft gaining the Pentagon's confidence.
It's all about this aircraft called the Global Hawk.
And what I found interesting... Well, Global Hawk is a control system for unmanned aircraft, and they say by 2010, 80% of the fighters are going to be unmanned, and within 20 years, there's going to be almost nothing except troop carriers that have people on board.
And, again, you're going to have just a few globalists that can literally, and I'm not talking about the movie iRobot, folks, or Isaac Asimov.
I mean, in reality, droid armies, this is what everything is shifting to.
And, again, they're not artificially intelligent robots or aircraft.
They are remote control pre-programmed, and a program can be...
We're good to go.
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It's like something out of T2 or something.
But go ahead, sir.
I'll tell you what I found chilling is there's actually a picture of a lieutenant colonel.
He's one of the people that controls it.
And the patch he has on his arm...
Is a circle with a triangle inside of it.
And then inside of the triangle is a skull with crossed bones.
And it was just kind of chilling to me when I saw that.
Well, don't you know the good guys wear skulls?
I mean, that's part of freedom.
Why don't you email me that LA Times story and we'll get it posted.
Okay, I'd love to.
Can I ask you one other quick question?
Can I ask you a question first, though?
Yes, sir.
Paul, what's the best email address for him to send that story to?
Well, just go to prisonplanet.com and click on email webmaster.
That's the best address to send it to.
Go ahead and stop interrupting, Chris.
I was wondering just how many, you know, how many members of Bush's cabinet are Skull and Bones members?
The new head of the Federal Commission that oversees the finances, he's Skull and Bones.
The first party he had at the White House was the Skull and Bones reunion.
I believe four members of his main cabinet are Skull and Bones, and I believe a total of eight people in the administration are, but I don't have those numbers in front of me.
Paul, do you have that in front of you?
No, the quote I remember reading was that he appointed ten key individuals to key members of the military and the government, so it's somewhere between eight and ten that were Skull and Bones.
So there's your answer.
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Trying to wake people up, you know, because this stuff is really happening.
And, uh, Terry.
I hear you.
Keep it up and take care.
Steve in Oregon.
You're on the air.
Or Georgia, excuse me.
Yeah, Atlanta, Georgia.
Hey, Alex.
What the Gulf War story you have posted today, do you think that depleted uranium, I don't see a lot of confirmation on that,
Do you think that's for real?
Number one, I think your phone's having a little bit of a problem.
Can you speak up for me, please?
Yeah, did you think that the depleted uranium is for real?
All the effects that it has?
Do I think it's for real?
You say you haven't seen a lot of evidence?
No, not really.
I've seen only just a couple of stories.
Paul, do we have a depleted uranium section somewhere on Prison Planet?
I don't believe so at the moment, but we can certainly... Yeah, I keep saying I want a fluoride vaccine to put uranium, you know, toxic section.
I know we have the vaccine fluoride area, but I know you're working hard.
I want to expand that.
Sir, we have interviewed Dr. Rocky twice.
He's been interviewed a bunch on this network.
He literally wrote the book in the 80s and 90s on DU.
It was recommended that it only be used in key situations in open country against specific heavy line battle tanks in an emergency war against the Soviets.
That is the only time you use it in the A-10 Warthogs and in the Abrams tanks in tank battles when Eastern Europe is being overrunning into Western Europe.
It is an emergency nuclear war type weapon.
And so they used it in the 1991 Gulf War, which they weren't supposed to.
Then they used it yet again in Serbia.
And now they have used it in desert dust, too.
This is the facts.
Now listen to me.
The heavy metal nature of it alone, it is a super toxic metal, more toxic than mercury or lead.
It aerosolizes on contact, and now it's not just in the Abrams Sabo rounds.
It's not just in the Warthogs.
It's now in the heavy and medium machine guns on Bradleys.
It's in the Bradley cannon rounds.
It's even being deployed to some of our troops and for anti-personnel operations to shoot through enemy's armor.
And when it hits a target, it aerosolizes, sir.
We're good to go.
What, six months ago did blood test of the troops.
Everyone that they tested wasn't a hypochondriac.
They all had up to two rims of uranium in them, which is highly radioactive, and the heavy metal, and were dead and dying.
So, yes, sir.
Depleted uranium is serious, serious business.
Iraqi children are three times more likely to be born deformed.
The government's own numbers, Gulf War troops are three times more likely to have deformed children.
So Paul comments to what he just said.
Yeah, the caller's referring to an article on PrisonPlanet.com out of Life magazine.
It's an eight-page article.
The tiny victims of Desert Storm.
When our soldiers risked their lives in the Gulf, they never imagined that their children might suffer the consequences or that their country would turn its back on them.
And it's a case of a young boy who doesn't have arms.
He's got hands coming out, you know, of his shoulders.
Mirroring the horrible pictures of the Iraqi children, which, you know, points out the fact that our soldiers' children are also suffering from the same horrible effects of it.
Oh, it just so happens Serbia's deformities have trebled.
Yeah, I mean, there was an article a few months ago in Iraq where they didn't clean it up.
They simply, you know, covered it over with soil.
Now, let me explain this.
In the first Gulf War, we conservatively used...
We're good to go.
We're good to go.
And it was out in the middle of nowhere.
And so just our troops hauling away the wreckage of civilian contractors got sick.
And some areas of Kuwait City, people have become ill.
But it was used in limited areas.
This time, our government bombarded all the major cities, all the major police bunkers and government facilities, power plants, you name it.
And guess where our troops moved in?
This is in the newspaper.
After we took over, they moved the troops in to the airport and the barracks and the palace, and it said they just came in with trucks and dumped some dirt on top of it.
So if it's so good for you, why'd they even do that?
The point is you're not even supposed to use this in built-up areas.
You're not supposed to use this on buildings.
And the journalists that were in Iraq to investigate it, such as the Japanese journalists, were, of course, subject to kidnappings, and they were threatened to be beheaded, and then they were deported back home without ever having the opportunity to conclude their investigation.
And now they don't even have LCIA to kidnap people for the CIA.
Our government just openly says in the London Telegraph and Associated Press, leave the hotel, we're about to bombard your town, or we're going to kill you, journalists.
And they open fire with machine guns on the hotel and say, leave.
So now they're not even covering it up, Paul.
No, well, now they've shut down most of the media.
They feel that, you know, not much of it will leak out anymore.
I mean, picture this.
Western journalists, British journalists, American journalists in a hotel.
Again, police tell journalists, leave Najaf or be shot.
And they just walk up with our troops backing up the Iraqi security force and on a bullhorn said, get out of the building.
You have six hours.
And then they just open fire with machine guns into the windows.
I mean, what?
It's like in Russia where anyone who criticizes Putin has gunned down any journalist who's gunned down on the side of the street and no questions are asked.
But Putin says the war's good and is there anybody?
Oh, but he accidentally lost some nukes that Al-Qaeda's got now.
Does that answer your question, Steve?
Well, I was wondering whether there's not more stateside media coverage on the effects of the troops.
Well, I mean, it's been, it's there.
We ought to have a transcript made of that Rocky interview.
Paul, is that Rocky interview a free play?
Can people find that on the site?
I believe it is free play, yeah, if you go back in the archives.
All right.
Oh, yeah.
Thank you.
We're just going to take three more calls because I've got news I want to cover with Paul.
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Before we do that, we're just going to take three more.
Paul and Don and John, sorry to others, but we've got to get to some other news here.
You know, the last caller, Steve, in Atlanta, Georgia, had a good point, Paul.
How can our troops be breathing DU, which the Army's own manuals and training materials say is deadly?
How can they be living in barracks that were bombarded with it?
How can they be coming down ill, and it's in the back of the newspaper?
We're good to go.
I think?
During the 70s and 80s in the Cold War, for emergencies and stockpiled in Europe, in case the Soviets launched a heavy armored attack in front of nuclear strikes to capture Berlin and Paris and other areas.
It was not meant to be used all over the globe in these police actions, these takeovers.
But they're doing it, and our troops are dead and dying from it, and that's not debatable.
So yes, it is incredible.
How in the world do they do this?
Well, how do they damage millions of children with mercury-containing vaccines?
When they get caught doing it, they increase the level of it, according to Congress's investigator, Dr. Geyer.
Well, yeah, in Britain they've said we're removing the triple jab vaccine, which may have contained mercury, due to, you know, opposition pressure.
But what are they going to replace it with?
Five jabs for babies who are, you know, barely weeks old.
So it's just taking a level of tyranny even deeper.
But with the troop situation, people can't make the differentiation between supporting the government and supporting the troops.
If you don't support the government, then you're against the troops, because people can't hold more than one thought in their head at the same time.
Which is why people are blind to the fact, you know, the photographs of Donald Rumsfeld handing over the biologicals to Saddam in 83 and 84, which later rained down on our troops.
After our government blew up the bunkers to cover up the evidence.
We got the video, U.S.
marked chemical bioweapons...
And because we're against selling Saddam chemical bioweapons, we're anti-patriotic.
I mean, how does that make sense, folks?
I mean, if our government declared war on volcanoes and said, let's dump thousands of troops down the mouths of volcanoes, we would be for the troops being against that policy.
Well, many of the troops are.
I mean, we have stories about them strolling over the side of...
Good for them.
And good for them.
And I've heard neocons now calling them traitors.
How dare them not torture small children?
Was it Britt Hume that said that the families of the troops who spoke out against the war, they were traitors as well, and the troops were traitors.
Well, who was it?
So, I mean, yeah.
But then that fat belly, he doesn't go off and fight.
None of them do.
Yeah, none of them do.
Let's talk to Paul in Maryland.
Paul, go ahead.
Yes, hello, Alex.
Yes, sir.
I listen as much as I can.
KDI, WKDI over in Maryland.
Unfortunately, you're not on a station over near the Baltimore, Washington.
That station's hard to get.
I have a DC radio that pulls it in real good.
Well, we're honored to have that.
I think they've been carrying our broadcast for two-plus years, and it's a great station and covers millions and millions of people.
We want to thank them and all other affiliates.
One of the major reasons I was calling was...
I support Michael Peruca, the Constitution candidate.
I keep meaning to get him on.
And his website.
Can I mention his website?
Sure you can.
It's peruca2004.com.
That's P-E-R-O-U-T-K-A.
And he puts out a weekly email or more often than that as the situation warrants it.
I was wondering if you would like me to forward that email to you.
I've actually gotten it, and I've heard Mr. Perudko on other broadcasts.
He's a great guy.
I think he'd make a great president.
Right, and I have found that when I call to the syndicated and...
What you call mainstream conservative shows around here, radio shows.
They are not at all interested in hearing anything about... Yeah, and by not giving proper attention to third world... to a third world, yeah, we're a third world country, to third party candidates, they never get any power.
We could have a third or fourth or fifth party in this country, but we won't because the media won't do it.
And my question is, since you're a media man, how do we crack that conservative...
Well, they're not conservative.
You mean the neokinds.
Why won't they let a real conservative like Mr. Peruca?
We'll talk about it when we get back.
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A lot of people know that they're a total fraud.
We've got to defeat that.
And we have got to develop and strengthen our own alternative media, which is happening.
Forty-five percent of people in major studies have now left the mainstream media.
That's why they're panicking right now and trying to carry out terror attacks, in part to get you back into the mainstream.
This is all part of a corralling process.
So there is a renaissance and awakening against it.
We're good to go.
Who knows?
Maybe even be secret about what you really believe.
That may be how you have to get elected.
Literal moles trying to get into office.
I'm not saying lie, but just don't be totally specific on some of the things you plan to do.
And then once you get in, that's what they do.
They lie and say they're good and then get in there bad.
We have to just kind of leave it, oh, get into office and then do the right thing.
Paul, do you get where I'm going with all of this?
Yeah, I mean, the call mentioned how we can support third party candidates.
In a sense, it's a shame that Aaron Russo didn't get the Libertarian Party nomination because he already had the kind of high profile which would automatically get him into those situations whereby his platform would be quite large and he had a good policy base.
But on the flip side, I mean, the Libertarian guy that's in there, Badnarek,
He's actually quite good on the issues, although he'll avoid the issue on abortion.
He has worked hard to get that nomination, and he travels the country teaching constitutional classes.
So, either way, I think they've got a good man in there, whether it would have been Russo, but in bad Narek, I mean, if you can give him a good platform, then he's solid on the issues.
Other than abortion, which is a big one.
Yeah, I think, as you said, privately, some people don't espouse their beliefs because it may help them get nominations or get into office, and I think that's the case with Badneric.
I think if you asked him privately, he would be against abolition, but publicly... Well, I know Michael.
He's from Austin.
I mean, he's been on my TV show and...
He's a good guy, but I don't agree with him on that.
I like Mr. Perutka.
I think he's great, but unfortunately, there's no infrastructure.
We just have to build that infrastructure.
Real quick, I've got to move faster because I've got news I want to cover with Paul about the CIA and Goss and the rest of it and the nuke situation.
Don in Tennessee, go ahead.
This is Dan.
Okay, Dan.
I can't ever seem to get names straight.
I'll take you another direction real quick here.
I saw a movie a couple days ago.
I read it from the video store.
Have you ever seen The Siege?
Yeah, that's what Tommy Franks came out and said.
Martial law, you know, it's sad to say, but the people may want it to keep safe.
Equaling, hey, martial law keeps you safe.
And he said, you know, like the siege.
And it showed images of troops machine gunning U.S.
Yeah, what it was, it was about Middle Eastern terrorists in New York.
This is 1998, this movie came out.
But this is, exactly, but this is what, on Fox, when they showed the interview with Franks, they showed troops blowing up U.S.
In the background of him talking.
Yeah, well, the Middle Eastern terrorists, they, you know, bombed some school buses, the federal building.
They eventually took all the Middle Eastern people that they could gather up in New York City, put them in stadiums with fences, just like you've been talking about.
Which just so happens to be the federal plan from before 9-11, but it's not going to be Middle Easterners, folks.
But in the movie, it was all Middle Eastern people because they were trying to get the terrorists.
Yeah, exactly.
But, you know, they had all the innocent people in there, too.
Obviously, most of them were innocent because they were just law-abiding citizens.
But they were Middle Eastern descent, so they went into the prison in the stadium.
And they had one prisoner they actually took into a jail cell kind of deal, and they tortured him.
And he was naked, by the way, just like they did in the prisons over in Iraq.
And they had him, you know, strapped down there, tied to a chair.
And they tortured him.
And they didn't show the torture, but you could hear it.
In the end, they just shot him.
And that was, I think, Bruce Willis that played the General of the Army when they finally got Marshall Law in and all that.
He was in power now.
Yeah, I've seen it.
They killed the guy.
Yeah, so I just wanted to bring that to your attention and to the listeners.
They might want to pick up on that movie.
It's a good movie.
But it conditions people.
Yeah, I know.
I hear you.
Thanks for the call, Dan.
And again, it's movies like The Long Kiss Goodnight.
I'll tell you what, Stephanie, you had that clip.
Will you find that Long Kiss Goodnight
Go ahead and play that.
This is from 1999.
Paul, tell folks about the actors that are in this and what they're going to say.
Yeah, well, you've got... I forgot the black actor.
Who is it?
Who's in it?
I forget that's the problem I was trying to get to.
He's a great actor, but I can't remember his name for some reason.
I like him.
Yeah, well, anyway, it was the guy who was in Pulp Fiction as well.
And I think it's the Overlord, the government agent who is trying to get his funding through, says to him that the 93 World Trade Center bombing was basically carried out by the FBI and CIA.
Which was a true story admitted in major newspapers, so they mixed that.
Then he says we're going to blow it up totally this time to get our funding.
Yeah, and he says he doesn't know how to stage the terrorist attack, so he's just going to have to do it for real to get his funding.
And then on top of that, we also have the lone gunman months before 9-11 on Fox, where a secret government group hijacks a jet to fly to the World Trade Center to get martial law.
Go ahead and play the clip from The Long Kiss Goodnight.
Is that a fun read?
Here it is.
World Trade Center bombing.
Stephanie, do we have that clip?
Oh, I understand now.
It's just not feeding to me.
Is that a fundraiser?
World Trade Center bombing.
During the trial, one of the bombers claimed the CIA had advanced knowledge.
The diplomat who issued the terrorist visa with CIA.
It's not unthinkable they paved the way for the bombing, purely to justify a budget increase.
You're telling me that you're going to fake some terrorist thing just to get some money out of Congress?
Well, unfortunately, Mr. Hennessy, I have no idea how to fake killing 4,000 people.
So we're just going to have to do it for real.
Oh, blame it on the Muslims, naturally.
Then I get my funding.
Good night, old girl.
Sorry about that, folks.
She was playing the clip.
I couldn't hear it, so I thought we had dead air, so we started the clip over again in mid-flight, but Paul, it doesn't get any more in your face than that, does it?
The actor's Samuel L. Jackson, obviously.
Very interesting how movies do mirror reality.
I watched a movie on Saturday night, which was about how
Terrorists smuggled a nerve gas bomb on board a commercial airliner.
In the script, it later turned out that the main terrorist was actually working for British intelligence.
So, in many cases, they do blow the whistle on this kind of thing.
And in many other worrying cases, movies do go on to become reality in later months, as we saw with the lone gunman situation.
Well, we had Phillips changing the way you live in your world, or changing your world.
A Phillips TV ad, I have the AP article, I've never seen the ad, and it describes F-16s bombing both towers and saying, Phillips, changing the way you live your world.
What in the world is that?
Well, I mean, right down to those Illuminati playing cards, which are part of a board game, two of which showed the World Trade Center exploding in the exact spot on the South Tower where the plane hit, and the Pentagon being attacked as well.
And then we have the rock rap band The Coup showing the towers exploding in the very same spots.
Yeah, there's a whole section in the 9-11 archive, which is obviously right at the bottom, because this isn't solid proof of the events of that day, but it's just interesting to consider, called Anecdotal Prior Knowledge, and that's in the 9-11 archive on the website.
All right, we're going to just take one final call, and be quick, John, in Ohio.
Go ahead.
Yeah, I was glad that Paul clarified the disinformation that the corporate CIA media is peddling about Venezuela.
But there's an even greater elaboration of this on ZMAG.org by Greg Pallast, how the United States, contrary to that caller, is rigging the vote there, and in case it can't do that, is intending on totally discrediting it.
He points out on this article on ZMAG.org, Venezuela, Florida-dated, will the gang that fixed the Florida vote fix the vote in Caracas this Sunday?
And he points out that
The CIA and Homeland Security have been using Choice Point, the same gang that Bush used to rig the vote in Florida now, under the guise of a war on terrorism.
It has nothing to do with terrorism.
The only places that the United States is sending these Choice Point lists, private lists of citizens in these countries, have nothing to do with terrorism.
It's only where there are contested votes, contested elections, where the United States and the globalists are opposing
The candidates, whether it's in Brazil or Venezuela or these other countries, and in effect they're using that in the same way they used it in Florida.
And then also there's another article about how even the New York Times and the other media, which totally ignores the fraudulent voting machines in this country, are trying to use this false disinformation that somehow it's going to be used in Venezuela.
But even the Carter Commission
He pointed out that it has a very secure system, security measures, and a paper receipt trail, which they were very impressed with.
All right, thanks for the call.
I appreciate it.
Paul, let's cover this now, and then we'll get into Porter Goss, kind of his background and his new domestic stasi.
But let me read this real quick.
This is out of the New York Times.
An American Hiroshima is possible.
Reposted in the Seattle Post-Intelligencer.
If a 10 kiloton nuclear weapon, a midget, even smaller than the one that destroyed Hiroshima, exploded in Times Square, the fireball would reach tens of millions of degrees Fahrenheit.
It would vaporize or destroy the theater district, Madison Square Garden, the Empire State Building, Grand Central Terminal, and Carnegie Hall, along with me and my building.
The blast would partly destroy as much larger area, including the United Nations.
On a weekday, some 500,000 people would be killed.
Could this happen?
Unfortunately, it could, and many experts believe that such an attack somewhere is likely.
Now listen to this.
He acts like this is all real, then later admits it's fake.
This is a psychological warfare piece.
The Aspen Strategy Group, a bipartisan assortment of policy mavens, focused on nuclear risk at its annual meeting here last week, and the consensus was twofold.
The danger of nuclear terrorism is much greater than the public believes, and our government hasn't done nearly enough to reduce it.
Graham Allison, a Harvard professor, his terrifying new book, Nuclear Terrorism, offers the example cited above, noted that he did not pluck it from thin air.
He writes that on October 11, 2001, exactly a month after 9-11, aides told President Bush that a CIA source code named Dragonfire had reported that Al-Qaeda had obtained a 10 kiloton nuclear weapon and smuggled it into New York City.
The CIA found the report plausible.
The weapon supposedly had been stolen from Russia, which indeed has many 10-kiloton weapons.
Russia is reported to have lost, sure, some of its nuclear materials, and Al-Qaeda has mounted a determined effort to get or make such a weapon, and the CIA has picked up Al-Qaeda chatter about an American Hiroshima.
President Bush dispatched nuclear experts to New York to search for the weapons and sent Dick Cheney and other officials out of town to ensure the continuity of government in case of a weapon exploded in D.C.,
Instead, but to avoid panic, the White House told no one in New York City, not even Mayor Giuliani.
Dragonfire report was wrong, but similar reports that Al-Qaeda has its hands on a nuclear weapon from the former Soviet Union regularly have surfaced through disinfo people, I would add, in the intelligence community, even though such a report has never been confirmed.
We do know several troubling things.
Al-Qaeda, Al-CIA, negotiated for a 1.5 million purchase of uranium, apparently South African origin, from a retired Sudanese cabinet minister.
That's been admitted to be fake, too.
Its envoys traveled repeatedly to Central Asia to buy weapons-grade nuclear materials, and it goes on and on.
So what they're trying to do is create fear here in a ledger or a history, so when the globalists carry this out, we'll all think that Al-CIA did it.
Well, you said that this came out of, what, the Aspen Institute?
The Aspen Institute is basically an arm of the Bilderberg Group.
I mean, their CEO, I think it's Walter Isaacson, CEO of Aspen, is at the Bilderberg meeting almost every year, and he was at the recent one in Italy.
So just from that, we see where these people's loyalties lie.
But even if it is possible that this would happen, then we have to look back at who's laying the pathway for it to happen.
Khan, the Pakistani scientist who was selling nukes to countries and terrorist groups all over the world, was in the enclave of the Bushes before they cut him loose.
And Bush ordered NW1999, not just the hijackers, to be protected, but also Khan.
Yeah, it was a Greg Palast report.
Before they cut him loose and made him this...
Let me challenge the NSA to do something.
I mean, watch
You're good to go.
I think?
Yeah, I mean, Bush's brother, Marvin Bush, the contract lease on the World Trade Center expiring on September 11th.
I mean, they put options on American and United Airlines.
They're the things to watch to give you an indicator of what's about to happen.
But, I mean, they don't even have to directly detonate a nuke and then blame it on somebody else.
They can just have the people, their patsies, do it for them, even if those terrorists are unaware of it.
And they can also go in and machine gun the guys and deactivate it and have a big circus.
Yeah, exactly.
I mean, as with the First World Trade Center bombing, many of the terrorists within that group weren't even aware of the fact that the bombing was paved for by the CIA and the material, which was supposed to be dummy explosives, was exchanged for real explosives.
And I mean, they were retarded individuals.
They didn't even know what they were doing, basically.
So it underlines the fact that they don't have to directly carry this out.
They can just...
Yeah, a reporter called himself Bin Laden, went and put little dummy bombs around and got 60 feet from officials.
Allison of the Aspen Institute offers a standing bet of 51 to 49 odds.
That barring a radical new anti-proliferation steps, a terrorist nuclear strike will occur somewhere in the world in the next 10 years.
So I took his bet.
If there is no such nuclear attack by August 2014, he owes me $5.10.
If there is an attack, I owe him $4.90.
I took the bet because I don't think the odds of nuclear terror are quite as great as he does.
And then he goes on to say, unfortunately, plenty of smart people think I've made a bad bet.
William Perry, the former Secretary of Defense, says there is an even greater chance of a nuclear terror strike in the next decade.
This is in the next six years.
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This New York Times scaremongering piece continues.
For the first page, they act like everything's real and we're about to be attacked and say, oh, it was a fake report issued by our globalist rulers.
Quote, we're racing towards unprecedented catastrophe, former Secretary of Defense Perry warns.
And, uh,
Well, yeah.
As most of you listeners know, the New York Times is the mouthpiece of the New World Order.
They carried for months on end Shalibi's so-called evidence that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction.
So there's no liberal media conspiracy against the Bush administration.
They're supporting the Bush administration by acting as a mouthpiece for the police state measures that they need the fear-mongering to pass.
That's right.
Now, Porter Goss, you have an AP article posted and others, where they just come right out and say, domestic CIA to arrest citizens for any reason, and they're going to be running our lives, and he's got the bill introduced.
Well isn't it interesting that nearly two months before Bush nominated him for Director of the CIA, he introduces this legislation which according to Newsweek would give the President new authority to direct CIA agents to conduct law enforcement operations inside the United States, including arresting American citizens.
No, that's not our mandate, but there's no discussion of it.
In fact, we have that clip.
It's going to be separate from Congress, by the way, folks.
Just like our trade and everything else and our borders.
Stephanie, do you have that clip of Goss?
Of Porter Goss.
You know the clip where he talks about Big Brother or Dead Brother?
Can we play that?
You got it?
Go ahead and hit it.
The purpose of the United States of America is to be respected for what we are.
Goss also weighed in on the age-old debate of preserving civil liberties versus protecting national security.
We're talking about the balance between privacy, on the one hand, and protection from Big Brother government, but we're also talking about the government's responsibility to protect our people.
It comes down to the choice, as my staff has said to me many times, between Big Brother and Dead Brother.
And I think our first responsibility in government is to make sure we don't have any more dead brothers.
Oh, so we've got to give up our liberty for security, but you give up liberty, you get tyranny.
So, this is amazing, and the Democrats love gosh.
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