Host Alex Jones interviews former German minister Andres von Bulow about his book "9/11 und der
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may have been a covert operation to influence America into a long conflict with the Muslim world.
Other topics discussed include Operation Northwoods (a U.S. government plan from the 1960s to carry
out false flag attacks), insider trading before the attacks, destruction of evidence related to
them, and the FBI's handling of the investigation.
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We have the father of Mel Gibson, an expert on the New World Order, joining us in the second hour, Hutton Gibson, to talk about Well, a speech he gave a few weeks ago to the American Free Press about secession from the Union, the National Draft, what's happening in Iraq, the New World Order, and much more.
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Then, in the third hour, we have Andre von Bülow, The former Secretary of Defense, or Minister of Defense in Germany, that's Deutschland, and up until about a year ago, when he got off the board to write a book, he was also the head of German technology, the technology minister.
And I had a chance to talk to him in his home yesterday, what an intelligent individual.
He's written a book where he lays out the facts of how the military-industrial complex carried out September 11.
He doesn't say they have prior knowledge.
He doesn't say that they allowed it to happen.
He says they did it.
And talking to him on the phone, he said, you'd have to be a conspiracy theorist to believe nineteen hijackers did it.
The evidence, the mathematics, the eyewitnesses, the facts show that this was a Hitlerian attack by the globalists to scare us into submission.
So, Andre von Bulow, the former Defense Secretary and then Minister of Technology, In Helmut Schmidt's government, in Gerhard Schroeder's government, he's been in the German government since the mid-1970s.
Joining us to talk about his book, 9-11 and the CIA, and we have information on that at InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.
And if your station doesn't carry the third hour, man, I'm sad to hear it, because you'll want to hear this interview.
I will probably re-air it sometime next week in the second hour of the show because I know this is going to be a very, again, very informative, very revealing interview.
We've got Michael Meacher, the Environment Minister, going public saying the Globalists carried out 9-11.
We've got Andre von Bulow saying it and bringing out the evidence.
We've got all these former military people worldwide, including U.S.
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We have all the evidence.
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The fourth day of February 2004, we have the former Secretary of Defense, and of course up until about a year ago he was also the head of German technology, the technology minister, one of the top positions in Germany, joining us as he'll go over the evidence of the U.S.
government carrying out September 11th.
You see, anybody with a brain knows this, and more and more people worldwide are saying the world is round, not flat.
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Who is an expert on history and the New World Order.
I mean to that point he was the 1968 champion of Jeopardy and written some books and puts out a great newsletter.
He's also the father of Mel Gibson.
He'll be joining us in the next hour to talk about the draft.
The ensuing Iraq whitewash and a speech, a great speech he gave a few weeks ago concerning secession, states seceding from the Union.
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President George W. Bush has asked lawmakers to approve a $1.2 billion loan to the United Nations to pay for a major renovation at the U.N.
headquarters in New York.
The State Department said, Bush, who is frequently derided by critics as a staunch foe of the multinational diplomatic approach, followed by the United Nations, included the loan request in the Foreign Operations section of his proposed fiscal 2005 budget, which was released yesterday.
Now, again, Bush signed on to UNESCO, something Ronald Reagan got us out of, something Bill Clinton dared not get us in.
He's increased U.N.
funding.
He's letting the U.N.
play the part of the good cop coming into Iraq now, while we play the part of the bad cop.
It's all owned by the globalists, folks.
The U.S., the U.N., Europe.
It's an elaborate shell game.
And this is their own document stating this.
Bush is the biggest empowerer of the UN as a puppet that we've ever seen in this country.
And that's just the facts.
But he does, in his rhetoric, put the UN down occasionally, which conservatives buy hook, line, and sinker.
It's like Arnold Schwarzenegger saying, oh I'm against giving drivers license to illegal aliens, and then saying last year, well actually I'll just write a new bill that does it.
So he gets rid of one bill, introduces another bill, and we go, oh that's so conservative.
And they couldn't be getting this whole agenda through if it wasn't Republicans doing it.
We would never let Democrats do this.
We know they want to do it, so we're awake to what they're doing.
Very, very serious.
State running background checks on new parents.
Now, the statewide federal control database of the Matrix system that hooks into the National Security Agency is going to have your divorce records, your bank account numbers, your directory assistance, what phone numbers you get, your phone records, who you call, everything you've bought with a credit card.
It's all going to be in there.
This is admitted!
No warrants, no nothing, and a huge database.
But also, any type of crime or misdemeanor that isn't even terror-related will be considered terror.
And if you've ever had a misdemeanor, when you have a child, you're going to get a visit from CPS that will try to then force you to sign documents handing your children over.
And Bush has roughly doubled the amount of Health and Human Services funding in these last two budgets, doubling Bill Clinton, who roughly doubled it himself.
That was one of the few things that grew under Clinton.
The government actually didn't grow too fast under Lord Clinton, but that's because he couldn't get away with it, because Republicans were watchful.
Now with Bush, well, you know what's happened.
But listen to this Detroit Free Press article.
I actually look at the law, it's much worse than what they say, but listen to this.
State running background checks on new parents!
That's right!
The licensing has begun!
Lansing, Michigan.
A new state program intended to protect newborn babies runs background checks on their parents to determine whether they have a history of child abuse that resulted in termination of the parental rights.
Well, I actually looked up the law.
It's any crimes.
And then they decide should rights be terminated.
Okay, so.
Now, the whole idea here is prevention, said Mark Jasonwich, Deputy Director of the State Family Independence Agency.
I love that Orwellian.
It's like Ministry of Love is where they torture you.
Ministry of Truth is the propaganda.
Ministry of Plenty is the starvation bureau.
War is peace.
The Family Independence Agency, when the official CPS textbooks say their job is to break up the family, we've read those on air.
Quote, we want to identify those parents who have been abusive in the past and try to head off any possible incidents of future abuse.
By the way, the law is written where you got in a fight with your wife, you threw some stuff, she threw some stuff, she called the cops, your neighbors did, somebody goes to jail, well now they're going to take your children too.
So, it's all in there.
By the way, CPS is five more times likely to abuse children.
Again, the abusers are the ones where there's no oversight and they run things.
The program, which has been in place since March 7th, is designed to fill gaps in the state's child protection system.
Say a parent has his or her rights terminated, then they move to another county and has another child, there's no way for the local authorities to know the history, said Michael Foley, Executive Director of Children's Charter for the Courts of Michigan, a child and family advocacy group.
You know, a giant cash machine.
The F.A.I.
will gather information on about 144,000 newborns per year from the Department of Community Health and Search, or MATCHES, weekly against its own database of 34,000 parents whose rights have been terminated.
From there, the information will be forwarded to local F.I.A.
offices, which will make sure that the MATCHES are legitimate.
Yeah, right.
If they are, caseworkers will go out and investigate in extreme cases and extreme cases, yeah.
The newborn baby will be removed.
Some critics worry about the ability of large state agencies to keep their information up to date.
Others say the entire idea sounds as if Big Brother is now looking into homes and hospitals.
By the way, we've had doctors on the show.
We've read the mainstream reports here on the broadcast.
A large percentage of marijuana, heroin, cocaine, methamphetamine, painkiller drug tests.
When they take your blood, they don't tell you that they're about to violate your Fourth and Fifth Amendment, that they're doing a criminal investigation.
If any drugs are found, they take your child.
Now, the statistics are that in many of these tests, up to half of them are false positives, and we've had parents on where they run out, go to another hospital, get their blood tested, no drugs, they get the original sample, turns out there wasn't drugs, didn't even show a positive, they just lie and do it!
In fact, if you've got a poor family and a white baby with blonde hair and blue eyes, look out.
And again, this is mainstream news.
We covered this last week.
From Eastern Europe to the U.S., poor family, they get up to $200,000, the adoption agencies do.
CPS ends up getting about $100,000 of that.
And they'll come into a poor family, the quote was on welfare, and they do it to black and Hispanic and Asian babies too, but there's not the big market there.
This is admitted, by the way.
So it is just horrible that this is going on in this country.
So if you're poor and white, and you go to a city-owned hospital, look out.
I mean, I've been to these hospitals.
I've done news reports on this.
I've seen them get people's children with no criminal record, no drugs, no nothing.
They just say, sign these documents or we're going to arrest you.
And for middle school and junior high students here in Austin, we have the newscast off CBS.
They're very proud of it.
If you're late to class three times, that is a truancy, unexcused.
Criminal charges are filed.
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They've set up courtrooms all across Austin in portable buildings.
And they tell the parents, this is on the news, sign here.
Your child's on probation.
They're going to be drug tested.
And for what?
Being late to class three times.
Folks, the magnitude, I'm not exaggerating, it's worse than what I'm saying, the magnitude of getting our young people, our babies, into their system from infancy to 18 years of age is huge.
How do you think we've gone from 1.3 million people 9 years ago in prison to 7 mil?
How do you, oh by the way, the official government numbers are 30 million by the end of this decade.
Just two years ago they were saying it would be $35 million by 2020, and that's in Road to Tyranny, that clip off CBS.
Now they're saying, no, no, $30 million by the end of this decade, and they're on track to do it!
And this is the same FBI and Houston and Dallas Crime Labs and every other crime lab you can imagine caught in industrialized frame-ups of people.
Dallas just randomly pulls you over, throws a bag of chalk in the back of your car, takes your house, your car, indicts you.
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You go to prison.
DA indicts.
I mean, it's serious business.
The criminals are in control.
And now, if you got bad credit, you're gonna get a CPS visit.
Oh, oh yeah, I've got those articles too.
Did you know that?
We'll be right back with more news.
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Alright my friends, your calls and more news are coming up.
Hutton Gibson joining us to talk about world politics.
Third Hour, the former Secretary of Defense, the Defense Minister from Germany.
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To talk about who really carried out 9-11, he says, from all the evidence, it was the military-industrial complex.
I think we might want to listen to the former Secretary of Defense, or Defense Minister in Germany, Andre von Bulow, on this issue.
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I think we can defeat this new world order and the struggle of humanity is always against tyranny and we've just forgotten that, so we're going back into tyranny.
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Yep.
First time though, you know, I never had a shortwave radio and I bought one and I tuned through and I heard your program and I thought, oh my goodness.
Because I never paid a whole lot of attention to what was going on around me.
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But the more I listen, the more I pay attention, boy, I tell you, I've never really, you know, and I think a lot of people are just like I was.
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Well, the question I get a lot at the bookstore or at the grocery store or walking the dog is, Mr. Jones, do you really believe all the things you say?
Well, all I do is go off the documents, the bills, the public statements of the globalists, their program, the history of the New World Order.
What we talk about here is documented.
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Yes.
Yes, I've done all your websites and stuff, and gosh, it's unbelievable.
You know, welfare is actually a small piece of the pie.
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But most of it's corporate welfare.
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But the neocons, they don't want to talk about that.
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We'll be right back.
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We're on the march, the empire's on the run.
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He's also the former Technology Minister in Germany, up until about a year ago.
And, uh, he is André von Bülow.
Joining us, he's written a book called 9-11 and the CIA, where he lays out the facts.
It's still the best seller in Germany, by the way.
I think it's what?
Ten weeks running now, saying that the globalists carried out September 11th and laying out the evidence.
Let me see, we have the environment minister in England resigned.
Tony Blair's number three guy had said it's all lies and wrote an eight-page article for the London Guardian.
We're going to get him on, by the way, that's in the works.
Wrote an article saying if they didn't carry it out, they knew and financed it.
Now, again, they have simply looked at the facts.
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I don't... Maybe I'm a little dense there.
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Good morning, Alex.
I wanted to ask... I'm thinking that if I was one of these evil globalists and I had an agenda, what I would do, if I was able, is to do weather terrorism.
You know, the HAARP project?
If I could control the weather, then it would be harder for anything to come back on me because people would say, oh, it's just an act of God.
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We know that HAARP can manipulate the weather to how widespread or Large that control is, wide sweeping, we don't know.
We know that since Vietnam, they could seed clouds and manipulate weather, and that's even on the Weather Channel now, on a show called Atmospheres, they admit it.
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I mean, humans have always been being killed and endangered by weather and natural occurrences.
And the Earth goes through different volcanic and weather cycles.
And, you know, we just can't say that they're doing it.
So that's why I don't talk about it.
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Okay, and the other question I had was, could you explain, basically, what is the Military-Industrial Complex?
The Military-Industrial Complex that Dwight D. Eisenhower talked about in his farewell address of 1960, in his farewell address he talked about how the corporations that had grown up Through World War II and the Korean War, through the funding, through the hundreds of millions of dollars of funding, had taken over almost all of the programs, research programs, universities, had bought up most of the private inventions and inventors and laboratories, and that they had centralized it
control of the brain trust of Western civilization in just a handful of companies.
And he said that that stifled competition, he said that that centralized power, and that because they now own the universities, and because the military-industrial complex was buying up ABC and CBS and NBC, which was happening right at that time, That they were going to control all the information, all the technology, and that it was, and by the way, we've aired this speech here before, that it was a foregone conclusion that martial law would be set up, because throughout history, when military industrial complexes, which they had in Germany and England, got big enough, they would always take total control.
The military-industrial complex is the big companies that were funded and financed by the big banks.
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And in 1947, with the National Security Act, they got total license to kill, total secrecy, unlimited secret funding, unlimited secret contracts to private interest, the same stuff we're seeing now with Halliburton in Iraq, on a much larger scale.
And so, that's what the military-industrial complex is.
So, who's up next, Mark?
Who should I go to next?
Michael in Texas, go ahead.
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Yes.
I had a quick story for anybody who was having trouble believing about the RFID chips you were talking about yesterday.
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is a camera everywhere you go.
It's already happened in England.
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And to make sure your child's on their toes, your young person, they'll hit the button to a larger committee, they'll look at the images, hit the command of the police, the police will have a code number and go, no, this was just a drill.
And that's so sophisticated, I could talk for an hour about what that means.
This is why they've had the fake terror alerts and fake terror drills, is to create the subconscious illusion, delusion, that We are under attack.
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It's about fear.
So, it gets everybody used to seeing terrorists that don't exist and to the concept of fake terror attacks on television feeds.
I mean, do you understand that right there, that shows they can fake video?
But number two, It acclimates everybody to terror attack, that, oh, there's this massive attack taking place, because there's no real terrorists, there's no real terror events taking place.
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Uh, my, my half brother is, you know, half Mexican.
Uh, but this is, uh, something that affects everybody because it's, you know, right, you know, they're around us, you know, in our communities and, uh, this guy, I did not believe that there's a Social Security office in Mexico City.
And, you know, I was trying to tell him about the eventual Pan-American Union, and this is one of the facts that are one of the building blocks to that eventuality.
Well, you go to a search engine and you type in, uh, Mexicans to be paid social security in Mexico, and about 500 mainstream news articles will pop up.
Type in Pan-American Union, Union of American States, uh, you know, One Union, American Union, hundreds of mainstream news articles will pop up.
I don't know what rock your friend's hiding under.
I mean, this has been all over the news how wonderful it is.
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Well, you know, it's the preoccupation that has surrounded us for, lo, these many socialist years where, you know, the only thing we have to do is, you know, work harder to pay our bills and, you know, what can we do to rail against the system, you know?
I've got a sneaking suspicion you can give that guy all the news articles you want, he'll come up with new excuses to be lazy.
Yeah.
Good propaganda just plays to our own laziness.
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One thing I wanted to say about the technology that's now, you know, becoming pervasive, I think, These people, these globalists, are smart people from, you know, from way, way back, you know, centuries ago, and the technology is catching up with their philosophy and techniques.
They know about brainwashing techniques and mass propaganda, only they haven't had the machinery to do it.
We're going to go on a break here in a minute and come back with Hutton Gibson, so you don't want to miss this.
Talking about secession from the Union, the national draft, the war on terror, then the German, the former German Secretary of Defense, the Defense Minister is their term for it, coming up in the third hour.
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Oh, they get tens of billions, get caught scamming, then they get a little bit back.
Oh, they're good, see?
They've been punished.
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We're now into the second hour of this February 4th, 2004 edition.
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Coming up in the next hour, we have the former Secretary of Defense, they call that their Defense Minister, for Germany.
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So he'll be joining us in about 59 minutes.
Andres von Bulow, For this hour, I am honored to be joined by Hutton Gibson, who has a great mind.
I mean, he was the national champion in the late 60s of Jeopardy, folks.
And that's how he moved with his family to do organic farming in Australia.
And he's got 11 children, one of them, of course, Mel Gibson, who has the passion coming out here in just a few weeks.
But he's here to join us today about a riveting speech he gave going over the right of secession of the states and how that could be a good thing.
And also we'll talk about the upcoming draft, the lies concerning Iraq, the new wars they've got publicly planned, and a lot more.
had their counties and their select men preparing to withdraw from the union
The counties from the states, under their Article 10 right to revolt in that particular state, And then suddenly the attacks took place and that didn't happen.
Arizona almost passed a law, it passed a committee to pull out of the union if quote, a new world order is declared or if gun confiscation begins.
If the federal government goes bad, it is our right, it is our duty to pull out of the union and then reconstitute the states as a more perfect union.
who has been conscious of the new world order for fifty years
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And you can see the effect of his knowledge, his information, which I've checked out and is extremely accurate, on his son and the fruits of his labor with brave heart and the patriot and now the passion.
We're going to be talking today about secession from the Union, how it's a good thing, and I agree it needs to happen.
By as many states as possible, because this is an illegitimate government in Washington.
Then we'll get into the national draft, and the war in Iraq, and a little bit into the passion as well, because Hutton has been blessed enough to see it months ago, and I can't wait till I get to see it in theaters in a few weeks when it opens.
Hutton, again, I mean, your memory's better than mine.
Talking about the Arizona law that passed committee He had the State Rep on a few years ago about this, and she actually woke up because of Police State 2000, that was interesting.
She got it passed out of committee, didn't pass the full legislature, to pull out of the Union if a new rule order is declared, gun confiscation begins, and I had forgotten, you're right, the third part, if the Constitution is set aside, and you're right, in 1913, it's not just the 16th Amendment with the IRS, the 17th Amendment, Taking our senators from the states, making them creatures of the federal government, how important is that?
They were sent there in the first place as the state's ambassadors to keep a check on the federal government, to see that the representatives in the other house didn't run away with the place.
And they're then placed, instead of the state ambassador checking on the other, they're Put in the same election.
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And answerable to the people rather than to the state government.
And to the people in this case means the political party in charge.
Well, it's just like the Roman Senate, when it got corrupt, they set themselves up as petty dictators, and now they put all the power in the federal government, whereas before, they were creatures of the legislature that was elected by the states, showing that the federal government was only a unit of the states.
But, like any tyranny, it simply absorbs everything it sees.
Sets up unconstitutional corporations, like health education and welfare.
Duplications and triplications of stuff done at local and state levels, where nobody's benefit except to get its own oar in and, say, control the schools so that the people come out of there Having no idea what are their rights, or what is their history.
So anyway, uh... Well, uh... You've got to, uh... figure that they are taxing you and they're misinforming you and so on, but mostly they are encroaching on your rights.
And with penalties.
I mean, you send somebody to Congress and what does he do?
He represents you?
Well try and get him, get hold of him and see what he can do.
He just does what the party tells him.
We have taxes coming and we've got no representation.
We've got this revolutionary slogan, which is always true.
Now, Hutton, Looking at 1913, the Federal Reserve Act, the private banks taking over, taking our senators, making them their own power in Washington, basically destroying states' rights at that point, 1933 War Powers Act, 1947 National Security Act, 2001 Patriot Act I, 2002 Homeland Security, 2003 Patriot Act II passed.
We have every right to secede and it should be done bloodlessly.
But nothing else is going to be bloodless.
We're either going to have a revolt in this country from what they're doing to us or We're going to submit and be subjected to a terror.
Like the French Revolution, like the Russian Revolution, like Pol Pot, like Mao Tse Tung.
Every place these people set up, we have a terror.
They just go out of their way to kill people as principle of the, you know, the mother comes in and says, uh, if my boy disobeys in school, slap the child next to him.
And of course, communism is a creation of the Illuminati, of the New World Order, and there's, I mean, Hutton, cameras in school bathrooms, cameras in our neighborhoods, our cell phones tracking us, microchips going into everything.
What is it like for you in the scope of your life to see this happening in America?
We also have the Protestant leaders supporting the Patriot Act, supporting the New World Order, saying we're not Christian if we don't support... We've already gone to Iraq, that's a fraud.
Well, you have to have a war so you can have a draft, don't you?
So they're going to keep on manufacturing wars, and they're going to say, well, we have nobody here.
Well, that's the trouble.
We have nobody here.
And then when the UN decides it's time to jump on us, the UN, of course, being the creature of the New World Order characters, we will have nobody here to defend us.
But, you know, secession will allow If the governor takes over the control of his state, or if several states get together and form a new kind of union, with the privilege of secession, which is a gun which should have been on the federal government at all times, but has not been since the Civil War, they will be able to withdraw their citizens from the armies.
Well, I mean, the Declaration of Independence says that if the government gets corrupt, this is what we're supposed to do, is dissolve the government, and then have the states set up another government of the people's choosing.
But, I mean, I guarantee you, if states try to secede, the feds are going to get violent real quick, Hutton.
We'll come back and talk more about it and take calls.
We'll be right back.
I'm Alex Jones.
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Hutton, you know, you've been around 85 years.
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And you've seen the mutation, the falling away, America turning into this high-tech police state.
You know, there's now... I'd said there were nine bills to reinstate a draft.
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I mean, they're really shutting this up.
From your historical research, what does it mean when the government even drafts middle-aged people and makes them dig ditches and tattle on neighbors?
Well, that's clearly what the 9th and 10th Amendments say, that the power resides with us, but you know that they're enforcing their power at the barrel of a gun.
How do you see us peacefully getting states to secede?
I mean, the feds would have trouble attacking Arizona if they did secede, or New Hampshire.
I guess we've just got to start the ball rolling to lobby to have this happen.
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And it's getting worse by the millisecond.
If you say you love America and have got American flags all over your car, you need to know what the Bill of Rights and Constitution is.
And if you do know what the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution states, and if you do know history, and if you do love America, you would demand that we abolish this alien, corrupt corporation, this organized crime syndicate That is the so-called federal government.
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Hutton Gibson, I got a call in the last hour and the man was saying, what is the military-industrial complex?
Do you have a good definition for us of this crime syndicate that's now running things and wants our sons and daughters for its meat grinder?
They have set up Things like a bunch of extortionists and they call them the IRS by their approval or refusal to see a suit which wants their constitutional status determined or they will allow the government to tax the citizen with his service
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Well, we've got a bunch of criminal control freaks running things, Hutton.
And again, for those that have studied history, this is the norm.
America was different because we didn't go along with this.
And as you said at the start of the interview, the education is designed to dumb our children down.
So that they will accept this whole system.
And look, the Supreme Court has said, people didn't believe me five years ago when I was reading their rulings, but in the last year they've seen fit to tell us that, oh yeah, we follow the UN and the foreign court's orders, we follow their precedence, so the Supreme Court is ignoring the states, which are the body of the people, representative, but they're going to go over to Europe where they're is no freedom
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that's gotta be a wake-up call that all the supreme court uh... it follows what the u n says now
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So, back in the early 70s, there was a huge, huge push For any older boys or anybody to become a priest.
So, in my opinion, that's why any of these scandals or any charges that have been leveled against any priest, that these bishops, all they would ever do is just, you know, shuffle the bishops off to another location or another congregation.
Well, one reason for this terrible depravity among the clergy, and it's not all of it by any means, but too many, far too many of them, and it's because there's no more grace.
They've stolen the Mass and the Sacraments from the Church.
It's a pleasure to be on your show, especially with Hutton.
I want to congratulate you on both your longevity on earth and your raising of a fine young man who knows the truth.
And God grant you many years of I'm a pious and attentive Catholic and I've come to the realization, as has Hutton many years ago, that there are some serious problems with the Catholic Church.
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I know Hutton knows about this.
Hutton, have you ever heard of a man by the name of Dr. James Wardner?
i'm not going to get the tape because i don't want i've been studying this now for
at least thirty five years well i ran into it in the catholic schools in australia
my children are going to the schools and i had to take them out
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yes i did too the same time I've seen the same thing both in the Catholic Church and, of course, the public schools don't follow any type of moral guidelines whatsoever.
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And we've got the German Secretary of Defense, former Secretary of Defense and Technology coming on to talk about who carried out 9-11.
This will be very interesting.
Right now, let's try to go to these calls quickly.
We're going to have Hutton back on, by the way, in the next few weeks to talk about corruption in the Catholic Church.
He just agreed to do that.
We appreciate it.
Let's talk to Ida in Nebraska.
Ida, you're on the air.
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Gibson, please go farther back than 1913.
Go back to Abraham Lincoln.
I believe he suspended the Constitution because Even though we've been told that the Civil War was over slavery, it was actually because the southern states were going to secede because of the heavy hand of government.
I never heard seven, but they got him once, dearly.
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But I'd also like to add that the only way this government will be fixed, if you will, is your right by succession, and that must start with state sovereignty.
I was at the We the People conference that Mr. Gibson was a guest speaker at.
Did a fantastic job.
Got a rounding ovation.
But there's a couple of interesting things.
One, these people's approach is so critical and so important and it's just a tragedy that the press is blacking them out on what they're doing and trying to accomplish because their whole thing is we've got to stop feeding the beast.
And what they've been able to accomplish is simply truth in taxation.
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In this hour, we're joined by Andres von Bulow, and he was the Federal Minister of Defense, or the equivalent of our Secretary of Defense, been in the German government since the 70s, and up until just a few years ago, he was also the Minister of Technology, and he's written a book that, according to Reuters, is the bestseller in Germany, that translates into 9-11 and the CIA.
And he's not the only German minister that has said that we're looking at world fascism here, and powerful military-industrial complex institutions engineering terror attacks to scare us into submission.
And Andres von Bulow, we are so honored to have someone of your stature and obvious intelligence and your courage on this show.
We're going to break here in a few minutes and come back in a longer segment, but for those that just joined us, tell us a little bit more about yourself and then your book, please.
Well, I have been 25 years in politics, now I am out.
In the end, I was Minister of Technology before I was Secretary for Defense.
And then I had a deal in a commission about the East-West transactions about the secret service of East Germany.
And this was a very interesting inside story.
Because on the Western side, on doing deals between East and West, and violating the laws of economics in Germany, in the European community, and the United States, It was always two parts which were dealing between East and West and this brought me a lot of insight in the Secret Service business.
In fact, I remember reading about the huge investigations you did.
That was massive international headlines concerning the SCSI.
And how different governments have actually been working with these people.
And if you'd like, you're welcome to get into that as well.
Again, folks, the equivalent of the Secretary of Defense, Minister of Defense in Germany, and then, of course, Technology, the head of that.
Just absolutely amazing.
Your best-selling book, and I wish there was an English translation, because I would certainly buy one, My wife does read German, but please tell us about your book.
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I am so honored to have on Andres von Bülow, former German Defense Minister, head of their Defense Department, and then, of course, just a few years ago, the head of their technology system, which is a very high-level post, just as high-level as the Defense Minister in Deutschland.
And he's written a best-selling book.
I've read some of the quotes out of it that have been translated into English.
And the title translated is, 9-11 and the CIA.
And he lays out the evidence of the military-industrial complex carrying out the attacks.
Also, we're lining up for the show Michael Meacher.
And he, of course, was the British Environment Minister who resigned over Tony Blair's fraud, and has written articles saying if the globalists didn't carry the attacks out, they certainly funded and allowed them to take place.
So, if you've got a brain and look at the evidence, it's clear, and Minister von Bülow, a very intelligent individual, has gone over this.
So, sir, you said that On the day of the event, you began to look at it, you began to research it, and from your specific expertise of intelligence and military and technology, you know, heading up entire sectors of the world's third largest economy, please discuss for us your research and how you wrote the book and what really happened on 9-11.
At 9-11 I just watched the scenery, and I said, well, there must have gone something very wrongly, in the wrong way.
And I watched the TV, for example, and in the same minute where the TV showed the planes driving into the World Trade Center, You found these Palestinians dancing and laughing and a few days later one could find out that this was a fake.
It was made by a TV crew of the Defense Ministry in Israel and they gave candies to the people and they laughed about it and nobody told it and the question for me was Who brought this TV stuff right in time into the international networks like CNN and CBS and so on and so on?
And then we looked for the... and then the story came up, this has been done by Osama Bin Laden and his Al-Qaeda and these were 19 people of Muslim background which did this.
And then you could watch at the passenger list, and nobody showed up.
Not one Arabic name is showing up there.
Then one is interested to see videos, because all these 19 passengers must have passed the video, a lot of video cameras in these three airports.
In Dallas, I think, and Newark, and in Logan in Boston.
And in Portland, in the North, and you don't get this stuff.
Then we are looking for the black boxes, we don't get them.
Then the story how these World Trade Centers broke down, they were constructed against an approach by airplanes.
The firemen of New York, they were able to come to the floor where the fires were burning.
And the fire commander said, well, I need two teams more to fight these fires, and then it's finished.
So the heat, it's impossible that the heat was as high as it has been written in the papers and in all the media.
Well, I'll tell you what, later in this hour, it's only three minutes of audio clips, We will air from the PBS documentary, America Rebuilding, where they admit they blew up WTC7.
Now that's important because they said that building fell from fire, even though it wasn't hit by a plane, and now he slips up and says, we decided to demolish it on 9-11, but then the mainstream media just ignores that.
Well, from our internal sources, they were running the attack, sir, out of the building, and so conveniently got rid of the evidence in one fell swoop.
Also, sir, we have Norad standing down for an hour and 25 minutes, but when the golfer Payne Stewart went off course for 15 minutes, he was surrounded in 18 minutes by five F-16s.
Well, this is a big question, because it happened in 2001, I think, more than 60 times.
That fighter went up to clear what has been done to airplanes which showed some irregularities.
At 9-11, four planes for two hours were able to drive around, fly around, even one hour going in direction to the west, then turn around and then come back.
And the military air force was not able to interdict them.
It's unimaginable.
And the whole story is totally unclear what happened between the Federal Aviation Agency and NORAD.
Now, I don't know if you've seen the Associated Press, but the CIA was running a drill 15 miles from the World Trade Centers that day, applying jets into buildings in New York and D.C.
My sources inside the Pentagon, the lawyers who represent them, have said on this show that they were told to stand down because it was, quote, just a drill.
That's how you get the good military to stand down.
You tell them, oh, it's just a drill, and that drill was going on at 8.30 in the morning.
And the most strange thing for me is that after two years you don't have a white book which is documenting everything.
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On the other hand, the American government is running, as they call it, a world war against possibly 16 nations without showing what really was the background of 9-11.
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And he just got out of government a few years ago.
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There's so many facets of this.
Mr. Vombulo continuing With the process of you waking up to what happened on 9-11 and researching it, what are some of the other key points that clearly show that it's impossible that these 19 people did this?
We know that's a fraud.
The conspiracy theory is to say they did it alone.
From your intensive research and your understanding of high-level government activities, what do you think really happened on 9-11?
Well, nobody can prove what has happened directly, because if it has been a covered operation, then you don't find proofs.
You will find only indications.
And one of the indications is, the indication that everything is right with these 19 people in Osama Bin Laden, Is that the government is free to show all the proof which is on the table, which is on the street, which lays on the ground of World Trade Center and so on and so on.
If you have a covered operation, the probability is always that the left over pieces of proof are taken away immediately and a lot of secrecy is, a band of secrecy is taken over everything and this has happened with 9-11.
Well that also happened, were you aware in the New York Times, the Chicago Tribune reported this in 93, the FBI cooked the bomb, trained the driver, had an Egyptian security agent doing it for him, had two retarded Muslims, literally retarded, drive the truck and park it, let the bombing go forward, In Oklahoma City, the same company that destroyed the remnants of the World Trade Center blew up the remnants of Oklahoma City, had that buried under machine gun guard at a private landfill to this day.
They hold the rubble away from the WTC complex to China.
At the beginning, the engineers were not allowed to go to the steel process and so on.
They had a lot of problems and there was very scarce money.
You know, to clear up the story of Bill Clinton with Monica Lewinsky, the Republican majority gave out 60 millions of dollars.
Boy, I think even 17 it's now.
And then they started with $600,000 to try to find out what happened in 9-11.
And they were taken away from doing research and so on and so on.
And they are upset.
And the fire engineer magazine is saying, well, it's totally, totally unbelievable what happened with this.
uh... this uh... examination of nine eleven well they say it's a criminal cover-up and uh... now sir we've turned into a police state they can secretly arrest citizens secretly execute us they're building admitted prison camps all over the country this is in our news uh... i mean we're turning into something like the soviet union here i can't comment on this but uh... what's going on in guantanamo is like that I think, and the problem is, if you put people away, like in Guantanamo on Cuba, if you take them away for one or two years without letting a lawyer do them, without showing them what you are reprising to them, without having contact with families, finally they tell in all court processes
Well, sir, our mainstream news says torture is good, and they say they are torturing people.
uh... i'm i'm informed that i don't know whether they are torturing the kind of
of uh... of uh...
keeping them is a kind of a torture
but uh... i'm i'm told that uh... there is an agreement with a lot of states to
send these people for example to egypt or to other states where torture is
accepted and uh...
is done and uh... then you get the uh... the The final outcome out of this torture and you can produce this in German before German courts or American courts and try to bring about Final judgment.
We'll be back long segment coming up and we'll get more into your book We're honored to have you Andres von Buelow.
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You mentioned the CIA and insider trading and the anthrax attacks.
Well, the inside trading, everybody knows that there were news about insider trading.
I think altogether about $15 billion.
And there was speculation about the going down of United Airlines and American Airlines, both airlines which were touched by 9-11 and other things.
And so normally you could find out because I think the American, the CIA together with the financial department, the treasury, They developed this FinCEN watching the markets to find out speculations about going on terrorist attacks.
So they could immediately find out there's something going on and they could find out.
And in this case, in 9-11, the NSA people, which are the guys watching via satellites, the whole transactions going on on Earth, they said, they told The people to destroy the tapes.
They had tapes about this interior trading and they said we have to destroy them.
Well, there the question just is, who has the responsibility for this?
Because, you know, it overlaid the whole public debate, what was the background and the reason for 9-11, for weeks.
Because these attacks were going on for weeks and weeks and weeks.
And finally nothing came out.
We have no report on who was responsible, who did it.
And this, again, is amazing.
I think it belongs probably to the cover-up, the psychological cover-up of the whole scenery.
And then the Vice President and the President asking the Congress not to go too much into detail about the background of 9-11.
What does this mean?
And then, until now, what the President knew before 9-11 is a total secret.
I think there is no secret service around the world which gave not hints to the American the circuit service community, the CIA, the DIA and so on
and so on, they did nothing out of it.
And the most disturbing thing is that these guys which knew about something about coming up 9-11,
they were cut out before. I mean the local level, the regional level of the FBI offices,
they knew quite a lot and they tried to force the central, the
The central organization to go into the details about Arabs taking lessons in flight schools and so on, and the guy who decided on top, I think it's the second man within the FBI, he told, no, we don't do this, and he got promoted after 9-11.
Bush had the battle launch orders on his desk two days before 9-11.
Yeah, that's exactly... And I want to digress, sir, back to torture for a minute because you have impressed me by how... I mean, you know so much about this.
You've researched it so well.
On the torture issue, General Rick Baucus Quit Guantanamo because he quote refused to torture the people there and the CIA section chief bragged in the Washington Post that they fly them to foreign countries and the CIA tortures them themselves.
And all the, all the court proceedings against, for example, Maasai, I think it was the 20th, normally supposed to have in each, each aircraft five hijackers, and one was taken into prison by the FBI before
and then the process was made I think in Alexandria in Virginia
and the judge said well if you don't give the proof by by these guys who run Al Qaeda as the government is telling
if you don't give this people for cross-examination
then I can deliver a judgment.
The same is true in Germany.
We have some people which are related to Al-Qaeda, or probably Al-Qaeda, because Al-Qaeda is probably an artificial The nomination of very loose elements of Islam people.
In Hamburg, the trials are failing because the American government is not delivering the proof.
The whole background, the whole personal, like Bin Laden, like Al Qaeda, like Taliban, even Saddam Hussein, these are all figures which were handled by CIA in former times.
So probably they are recycled in the system now as bad guys.
Before they were the good guys, uh... taking away the russians out of afghanistan and uh...
dealing with this and getting money for that paid for this
uh... and now they are they are used for for as as bad guys and
uh... the or somebody that has been uh... i think in uh...
in uh... ninety five
uh... in the balkans uh... uh...
the in a in operation where the americans where are with the you check
UKG in Albania.
You find these guys all over.
You find them in Chechnya, for example.
And these are also former Afghanis, as they are called.
And they are driving the global play of secret services, of CIA for example.
Absolutely, and then they provide the crisis so the big brother can provide the police state solution.
Andres Vambulo, it's clear that if we do not expose who at least stands to gain from the terror and who was involved in it, that is the large financial interests that own our government, they're going to be able to use America as the engine for quote, imperial mobilization and world domination, as Brzezinski and the PNAC documents and others have said.
How important is it To expose this for the future of free humanity?
I think it's for everybody outside of the United States it's extremely important because it's a question whether democracy will survive and the state of law is kept up or we are driven by public relation and financial interests and the main thing I think for the Americans is Who pays for all this?
Because if the oil companies get more cheap oil and make their money out of it, the American taxpayer has to pay for the military machine.
Absolutely, and now we are paying record amounts for fuel, for petrol, Mr. Vombulo, in this country while they have record supplies and the oil companies are posting record profits.
I want to get into WTC7.
Because I want people to hear these clips.
This is from the PBS documentary, and this will just take a minute, sir, and we'll get your comment on it, where they describe how Building 7 fell, how they removed it first after it fell because, quote, nobody died in it.
And then it's the owner, Larry Silverstein, saying that they pulled it, gave the order to demolish it, on the afternoon of September 11.
So, Mark, go ahead and hit that clip for us, please.
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Trade Center 7 had always been considered the starting point for rebuilding.
Located north of the slurry wall, seven had been cleared faster than the rest of the site.
And there had been no bodies to recover.
Pelted by debris when the north tower collapsed, seven burned until late afternoon, allowing occupants to evacuate to safety.
I remember getting a call from the fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were going to be able to contain the fire.
I said, you know, we've had such terrible loss of life.
I think the smartest thing to do is pull.
And they made that decision to pull, and then we watched the building collapse.
We made the decision to pull, and then watched the building collapse.
Now here's Dan Rather, seconds after it collapses, replaying the collapse of 7.
And this is what Dan Rather had to say, then we'll get Von Bielow's comment.
Go ahead and hit it.
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What you're seeing are high shots.
Now, here we're going to show you a videotape of the collapse itself.
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For the third time today, it's reminiscent of those pictures we've all seen too much on television before, when a building was deliberately destroyed by well-placed dynamite to knock it down.
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His last post as the head of technology.
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We only have time to take one or two from Dan in Oklahoma.
I just want to commend Andres Von Bulow for writing his book, 9-11 and the CIA.
And I would hope that a publisher in the U.S.
would get it translated and published here, because I would definitely carry it.
You can find information on the book for those that read and speak German at Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.
Andres Rambullo, let's take a call.
Let's talk to Dan in Oklahoma.
Dan, you're on the air.
Go ahead.
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Thanks, Alex.
Mr. Rambullo, my question is, following this disaster of 9-1-1, I understand Germany, France, and Russia why they didn't want to get involved because of the money that they had invested in Iraq.
With the military-industrial complex like it is, what do you understand the new world order to be, especially since they said they could use this event of 9-1-1?
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in the East-West conflict or in the Near East conflict, they are always trying to sell their
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And they are always interested in conflict.
And they would like, after the breakdown of the Soviet Union, the normal thing would be
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And exactly at the same time that the Soviet Union is breaking down, this new terror thing comes up.
And the first terrorist attacks were, I think, the World Trade Center One, where you found out that the leading guy of this bomb building, this was at this time an agricultural bomb, he was immediately going to the FBI and telling them, I tell you everything about this.
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