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He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
There can no longer be getting downed.
The government of this country wants a dumbed-down, mindless population of idiots.
We have the Department of Education documents.
We have Senate hearings over 100 years ago where they talked about education of the public causing a crisis for the government and how they needed to dumb the people down.
We posted some of those documents on Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com today.
We know that they want to control our society and turn us into non-thinkers.
And there was a great example of this yesterday in the New York Post, and it's posted on Infowars.com right now.
A caller called in about it, and we do have the article.
And in 20 minutes, the father's coming on.
His daughter has a 3.8.
She's 15.
She's graduating from college.
And the judge says she can't have her degree.
And the CPS is coming after him with a criminal investigation discussing taking the child, the young lady, the young adult, away from her family.
They say it's abusive not to send your child to public school so your child can learn how to be a crack dealer, a New World Order minion.
Now, we have the UNESCO documents.
We have the Department of Education documents.
We have the Senate documents over 100 years old for the plan to dumb us down in the public schools.
And then they go after people whose children have 3.8 grade averages in top colleges at 15 years of age, and the government's coming with criminal charges against them.
Pretty obvious what they're all about, isn't it?
Yes, it's we have their own admissions.
And that's what stuns this broadcast, this host, is that we have the globalists in their crime, in triplicate, and
The neocons are running offense and defense for the liberals, the socialists, the control freaks.
And shame on you big government people.
Shame on you government bureaucrats.
I mean, how do you go after a 15-year-old with a 3.8 grade average?
That's in the top 97 percentile.
How do you go after a 15-year-old who's about to graduate from college?
And how does the judge say she can't have her college diploma from a top accredited college?
So that's coming up in about 15 minutes.
They'll be joining us.
Then we have Dr. David Bannon coming on the show, who worked for Interpol, going around, I guess, assassinating people, basically.
That's coming up in the second hour.
And we've got World War III brewing with North Korea, Iran, Syria.
More U.S.
troops getting killed.
Gunfire exchanged over the DMZ.
With North Korea and South Korea yesterday, massive escalations, battle plans being leaked in the last week to go ahead and attack North Korea with nuclear weapons.
Former Defense Secretary says that...
Nukes will go off in U.S.
It's going to happen.
Of course, he's CFR.
And, hey, they'll love it.
A nuke goes off in a city, they'll have even more of an excuse to tell you the government's your boss.
They're going to take all your rights for your safety.
And, of course, it won't be North Korea detonating that nuke, folks.
It'll be the shadow government, and out of that, all of their training, all of their takeover systems will be activated, and things are going to go downhill very, very quickly.
Or we could speak out and get involved and blow the whistle inside and outside of government and stand up against the military-industrial complex and save America.
But the yuppies and the bureaucrats and all of you are in for a rude awakening.
You can't go on being part of an evil system forever and not have it turn on you.
And you're all about to find out
You've all been finding out individually over time, but you're going to find out on a mass scale what your masters think of you will do to you.
So we're entering the ninth circle of hell, ladies and gentlemen.
Just all the evidence is there.
We'll break it down today.
Where evil is good and good is evil.
Where black is white, where black is white.
Where white is black.
Where up is down, where down is up.
Where left is right, where right is left.
Where decency is evil and evil is good.
Oh, I guess I'm evil then.
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And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
All right, ladies and gentlemen, coming up in about 12 minutes, we're going to be joined by Angela Lipsman's father, headline,
's college whiz kid, a 15-year-old Manhattan girl whose parents sent her to college instead of high school, has been told by a judge that she can't get her associate's degree even though she's got enough credits as city officials launch an educational neglect probe against her dad.
Port K.O.'
She got into college at 11.
She has a 3.8 and was about to get her bachelor's degree.
And to move on with her master's that she was already working on, trying to complete that by 16.
And they have started, it says here in the New York Post, criminal investigations and are going to charge them.
So that's the new America.
That's the new America, and they do not want you to be intelligent, to be informed, to be able to think for yourself.
I have the official Senate documents, official Department of Education, official UN, where they say word for word, dumbing you down, creating an individual that cannot think, destroying the family, is the name of the game.
Is there any doubt of their criminality?
So now...
Your daughter is in college at 15, graduating from college.
Criminal charges coming down.
And the judge says you don't get to have your degree.
Your work is all disallowed.
So that's the new America, folks.
You excel.
You are punished.
You're a mindless idiot.
You're rewarded.
We've talked about how Child Kidnapping Services is targeting homeschoolers nationwide.
Nationwide viciously attacking them.
There's moves to bar them from spelling bees and from geography bees because they keep winning everything.
We're good to go.
I think?
You just want the capacity to simply not pay property taxes if you don't have your children in a government death camp, I mean a government training camp, a government dumb-down camp, a government thumb scan, face scan, cavity search camp, a government camp where they have video cameras in the school showers, a government re-education dumb-down center.
So that's a big deal that's coming up.
The news is incredible.
But I do have a death threat email.
I get these about every week.
And basically it says that I'm with Al Qaeda because I believe in freedom.
And that the guy says he's in Texas and that if I ever come to Texas, I'm in deep trouble.
Well, I'm right here in Texas, sir.
And, of course, I'm a big liberal, and I need to be stopped, and the war is holy, and basically I'm with the devil.
So I guess Ron Paul is with his big story, Neocon, that we posted a few days ago.
Where he talks about the biggest threat being the neocons.
Maybe later I'll read this.
There's so much profanity from this Christian conservative that I can't read but about half of it.
The person is an incoherent, babbling idiot.
But what's coming up in the news today, mortar attacks on U.S.
bases growing.
bases in Iraq booming.
Mortar attacks on U.S.
And becoming a growing problem for troops.
Yeah, a problem.
But Bush has backed the hearse up, and he's waving the coffins into the back.
Bring them on.
I saw an editorial cartoon.
And a lot of conservatives, real conservatives, are mad about this because, you know, you don't say bring it on because that does encourage attacks.
And by the way, you don't release three separate battle plans to attack North Korea detailing how you plan to attack them.
That endangers the troops.
I mean, even if you're going to go in there and it's the right thing to do, which it's not, you still don't release the battle plan.
But again, this is trying to get North Korea to do something stupid, and they are.
They're doing jet overflights.
They've got patrol boats shooting at people.
They're shooting almost every day now.
The South Korean troops, a massive escalation.
The five-foot demon, the demigod, the hereditary dictator.
We have one here, too.
But the hereditary dictator of North Korea, Kim Jong-il, is running around foaming at the mouth now after Rumsfeld gave him the weapons.
And they've got the nukes, by the way.
And they're threatening Japan.
And Japan's in an arms race now building nukes.
Massive escalation.
World War III, that's coming up.
Pro-American mayor's son killed in Iraq yesterday.
Iraqi child pro-American mayor and son killed in Iraq, a Saddam loyalist attack.
These aren't Saddam loyalists, but again, it's like Goldstein.
There's the boogeyman from 1984.
Anytime there's a problem, oh, it's Goldstein.
The Iraqi people love being arrested if they're caught selling things in the city bazaars without a special Halliburton license who gets to run the country and own the people as the slaves, literally.
We're good to go.
We do the same thing to people now.
Cheney under pressure to quit over false war evidence and the fact that he's got all the private contracts with no bids allowed in Iraq.
Anger grows on both sides of Atlantic at mishandling claims of the eve of Iraq conflict.
And that will they scapegoat Cheney?
Doesn't matter.
They're all just puppets.
Of course, Cheney's nowhere to be seen.
Generally at the Grove this time of year.
We'll find out after the Grove ends its meeting in two weeks if he was there.
But he's generally there.
That's where they handle policy there, Northern California.
That's where he was chosen as the VP running mate in 1999.
That was announced at CNN, by the way.
There's a bunch of other articles here.
Again, we have Dr. David Race Bannon.
I guess our Johnny Quest music will fit in nice with that, Race Bannon.
But Dr. David Race Bannon joining us, the secret mission of the Interpol agent who tracked the world's most sinister criminals.
And that's coming up in the second hour.
A listener sent me this email, and a famous quote wanted me to read it.
And I agree, this James Madison quote is good.
Knowledge will forever govern ignorance.
People who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power that it gives.
A popular government without popular information or the means of acquiring it is but a prologue to a farce or a tragedy of perhaps both James Madison, fourth president of the United States.
And I've got official Department of Education, UN, and Senate documents going back from last year to 1899 where they say that educated masses are hard to govern.
We must remove critical thinking and understanding of history from their grasp.
Well, that's a quote from a Senate document.
We've posted that on Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.
It's from the memory hole, another Orwellian allusion.
A few weeks ago was the Newsmax publication.
I actually have the UNESCO document, but they put it on the web for us.
I appreciate that.
Where they say the families of disease must be eradicated.
By the way, they write policy for the Department of Education.
See, and you wonder why with the guests we have coming up.
You wonder why...
With this situation, if your child, your young adult is 15, about to graduate from college, they say, no, you can't have your degree, and we're going to go ahead and criminally charge you, and you may be taken from the home.
We hear this all the time.
You've got kids that win the spelling bee.
They're in the paper.
They're 12.
They're in a high school-level senior spelling bee.
They win.
This was just in the news a few weeks ago.
And then CPS comes in.
You never filled out your paperwork to not be in public school.
And the father says, no, you're not taking my child to be tested in some government office building.
No, that's fine.
We'll be back in two hours with a warrant.
They come, take the kid.
The mother's crying, begging.
The bureaucrat laughs.
No one's going to stop us.
The neocons defend us.
The neocons would talk about this on their filthy, dirty liberal talk shows.
This would all end overnight.
But it won't.
It's all how stupid Hillary is and how stupid and how evil Jesse Jackson is.
We already know that.
Let's talk about the real evil as Ron Paul did.
The neocons who were ramming the whole agenda through.
These people are scary, folks.
They are so evil.
They are so self-righteous.
They are so out of control.
We're in so much trouble, folks.
You're in so much trouble.
I mean, your kid wins a spelling bee, and so CPS comes after you?
You're young adults, 15, graduating from college with honors, and so CPS comes with police?
I mean, is that what... You see, but they put this out on purpose.
They put this in the news on purpose to condition you to accept it.
That's why they put it in the news that, yeah, we put cameras in the 10-year-old boys' and girls' showers in public schools now.
Source Associated Press, yeah, it's for your safety.
Yeah, the images are accessible over the net, but... You know, this is the new America, folks.
And you're just going to sit there and take it, aren't you?
Well, you better not.
By the way, Bush again says he'll sign the assault weapons ban.
That's how conservative he is.
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I've read the official U.S.
government Senate documents where they say an educated population is hard to govern.
We need to destroy the thinking process of the American people.
That's over 100 years old.
UNESCO plans from the 50s saying that the family's the enemy.
It must be destroyed.
Bush, of course, is signing on to that.
We've had the former head of policy, Department of Education, number two position in the first Reagan administration, Charlotte Iserby on.
She has the official documents, internal documents, classified documents, where they talk about how they want to train the kids to be mindless idiots.
And you don't see any greater evidence of how they don't want any free minds out there than the New York Post.
They reported on Angela Lipsman.
Who got into college at 11, at a big accredited college, and has a 3.8 grade average, and they were very proud of her.
And now the judge got involved and said, you can't have your degree.
You didn't go to our accredited public school.
You didn't go to your government training camp for proper dumbing down.
And CPS, Child Grabbing Services, has been called in.
And we've seen articles where, again, a 12-year-old wins a spelling bee with seniors.
You know, and suddenly CPS is at their door.
They just hate it that these kids are not being ruined by the system.
And it's, I don't know if the CPS consciously knows this.
They're like Hitler stormtroopers.
They just follow orders mindlessly.
But the system itself is there to destroy any free minds.
This is a drone-like Brave New World system.
And, of course, Aldous Huxley, who wrote Brave New World, said that he learned this from his brother, who was a big socialist, and the first Secretary General of UNESCO, after, of course, he'd written the book, that it was the government's plan to create this drone society, and now you see much of that developing.
And, of course, you have the eugenics master and Nazi promoter out there as well, H.T.
Wells pushing all of this, and so we see it today with Peter Singer and others and Margaret Singer and others.
This is the whole move.
We are joined by Daniel Lipsman and his daughter, Angela Lipsman, and we really appreciate you coming on the show today.
Pleasure to be here.
Daniel, tell us first what happened, then we'll come back and talk about what's developed since this story came out in the New York Post.
Basically, Alex, what happened was that my daughter, Angela, started part-time in college nine days after her 11th birthday, concurrent with her regular grade schooling.
When she entered eighth grade a year ago...
Excuse me.
After finishing eighth grade one year ago, we had determined that in fact she was ready for college and that high school had nothing substantial to offer her.
So we started her full-time in college.
However, when we sought an equivalency diploma from the state,
The state education department said, sorry, if you haven't been on this earth long enough, you cannot have a high school equivalency diploma.
And I said to them, well, that's ridiculous because a high school diploma is not supposed to be meant to be a substitute birth certificate.
Well, my dad had his high school accreditation, and he was off when he was a junior in high school at MD Anderson Cancer Research Facility as an intern.
Well, let me say this much, Alex.
The bottom line is that there are many states that are perhaps more enlightened than a major industrial state like New York.
As a matter of fact, in my humble opinion, Judge Bernard Malone's decision demonstrated a depraved indifference to equal protection.
There was no evidence he considered or even looked at petitioners' memorandum of law with research exhibits.
Apparently, the judge is a guy whose mind was made up and he didn't want to be confused with the facts.
The case I brought had nothing to do with the compulsory ed law.
It had everything to do with an arbitrary and capricious age requirement for a high school diploma that was totally irrelevant to the academic achievement for the diploma.
Now, the college can... It is I, or I am the state.
Malone's decision reeks of that attitude.
It appears to me the guy went to law school and became a judge while blissfully ignorant of the Bill of Rights.
Judges that turn a blind eye to equal protection under law are a disgrace to justice, the Constitution, and the judiciary.
Malone's cynical decision only reinforces Lipsman's first rule of law.
Law is whatever the judge says it is.
Malone says I defy the law of the state.
Guilty as charged.
Not only that, but it seems to have escaped his notice that I had a duty to disobey this law.
Daniel, stay there.
I want to come back and talk about this.
We've got a break, sir.
And we really appreciate you coming on with us.
And, of course, we'll be able to talk to your daughter as well, Angela, and what this has been like for her.
Please stay with us.
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All right, folks.
Alex Jones here, back live.
And I really appreciate Daniel Lipsman and his daughter, Angela Lipsman, coming on the show.
Big article in the New York Post yesterday.
It's on InfoWars.com right now.
A couple weeks ago, they reported about the whiz kid who has a 3.8 grade average at college.
She entered college at 11 while still going to the government training camp, the public school, and then now she's graduated from college, and the government, the judge is saying she can't have her college diploma, she can't have her high school diploma, and CPS, Child Grabbing Services, has been called in for educational neglect.
Now, Daniel Lipsman, and when your daughter would like to jump in any time, that's fine.
This judge, as you said...
is just out of control.
He wants to set the precedent that you've got to go to his government-run system.
Well, the judge had the raw power to temporarily stop Angela from getting her diploma, Alex.
This particular judge has no power to force her into high school.
Despite this judicial travesty, Angela will continue her college program full-time in September.
As for the New York City Department of Education...
The Central School Superintendent, Joel Klein, has declined to respond to my efforts to settle a related administrative matter in the situation.
There's been no response from him or his office in nearly six weeks to me, nor for over two weeks to the message sent to him by my local state senator.
And parenthetically, he got a waiver to get his job as Central School Superintendent.
Angela can't get a letter saying her 33 college courses and 71 credits for the 3.84 index plus two Regents exams is the substantial equivalent of a New York City high school diploma.
Let me turn you over to Angela now, Alex.
And this is the young lady, 15 years old, who's trying to graduate from college with a 3.84.
And Angela...
What has this been like to be a great student, to be a great daughter, and then to have the government come after your father and you and your mother?
Well, it's annoying.
It hurts because you do the work and you go to school and you expect that you're going to get what you believe you have earned and deserve, and then all of a sudden they tell you, oh, no, wait, you're too young, you can't get it, sorry.
I thought they wanted people to be educated and to do good in school, but I guess their own documents don't say that, but those aren't publicized.
When was CPS called in?
The New York Post says that people read a news article and someone called in an anonymous tip that they thought that was abuse that you were 15 and graduating from college.
We found out about this in late June.
Someone visited our home while we were outside.
And we found the papers in the door when we got back.
Oh, what papers were those?
Let me jump in on that, Alex.
It's from the Administration for Children's Services, Manhattan Division of Child Protection.
And the start of the letter says, Dear Daniel Ibsen, this is to inform you that you are the subject of a report of suspected child abuse and maltreatment.
So, your daughter is graduating from college with a 3.84
Well, it certainly isn't pleasant, that's for sure.
You're the ones that are being abused, and you're being harassed, and I know you've had damages here.
I know this has caused you a lot of anguish.
You need to sue these people.
Well, unfortunately, Alex, basically I think they have a sort of sovereign tort immunity.
They can claim that all day.
That's not actually the case, even in New York.
Because I've looked at the New York laws.
They can claim, I mean, Hitler could claim he was sovereign and invincible.
Stalin could say it.
It doesn't mean it's the case.
Well, I haven't had very good experiences so far in some of the courts of New York.
I understand, but obviously I would imagine public opinion is on your side.
The court of public opinion I think we're doing a lot better in.
I don't think they care, Daniel Lipsman.
I think they want everybody to have a chilling effect that, hey, this is a message.
We don't want you to do good.
We want you to be an idiot.
They may be succeeding.
They may be succeeding, unfortunately.
But as long as there are people out there, Alex, such as yourself, that can get the message across.
I think the media becomes an 800-pound gorilla that's good for fighting the 800-pound gorilla of the state.
Now, Albany Supreme Court Justice Bernard Malone ruled Monday that because she's not 17, Angela is too young to obtain a high school, closely diploma.
There's people in Texas, I know, that are 13 that get it.
That's ridiculous.
If you can take the test and pass it and get out of the system, why not?
And then it goes back to whose children are they?
Sometimes I wish we lived in Texas.
Well, it's getting bad here too, my friend.
So when you talk to these bureaucrats, I mean, how do they abuse you like this and still sleep at night?
That's a good question.
Unfortunately, I'm not able to answer that.
Let me say this, though.
We are the effects of this decision from Judge Malone.
Judge Malone does not have the power to force Angela into a local crummy city high school.
She will be taking a full five-course, 15-credit program in the fall at the college where she is registered.
First of all, I will go to jail before she goes to a city high school.
I've taken that vow, and I mean it.
We will see what happens.
I don't know how long it's going to be.
In the future.
So you're under 15, 3.84 grade average, about to graduate with a first degree from college.
That isn't good enough.
That's bad.
And they've started these criminal proceedings.
Any idea where this is going with the forces over there?
No, Alex, but I will say one thing.
I think that with programs like yourself and other media,
It may be giving some of these individuals second thoughts because almost all of the feedback, in fact, all of the feedback that I know of that we've received so far, whether it was in the form of email, whether it was radio stations, television, word of mouth, everything in terms of the public has so far been positive.
Now, what does this say, though, about the government's mindset?
And I see this all over the country, not just New York.
Where your daughter is a great photo over here, energetic, beautiful, smart, all of this.
I mean, there's lots of children, young adults that are graduating from college at 14, 15, 16, thousands of them, and your daughter is in that top 1%.
I mean, this is asinine.
This is ridiculous.
This makes me really angry.
These people ought to be ashamed of themselves.
I'm trying to get to the mindset of these people.
Well, they don't want the competition, Alex, because the sooner these people get out of school and get into the labor force, they will be competing for those nice prizes out there in society, whether it's in medicine, law, journalism, on college faculties.
The point is that you're taking the best and the brightest and you're allowing them to compete with some of these educrats who are very uncomfortable.
Also, you're goring the ox, if you will.
For example, if you have Angela graduating four years early and you replicate this over and over and over again, you have a situation where you don't need so many teachers in front of the classroom.
And you don't need the schools being turned into little mini prison camps training the children how to be prisoners.
What do you say about that, Angela?
Well, that sounds accurate in some situations.
What are New York schools like?
I know they're like little prisons here in a lot of areas of Texas.
Well, there's a bit of a variance.
You have the local high schools where you would have more things on the side.
And you have the specialized high schools where you have more homework.
But you don't want to be shaken down by the gang members and the police in these public schools?
You don't want to learn how to, I mean, because you will learn, I guess, all the horrible things that go on in these high schools.
Well, that was one of the things I wanted to avoid.
You don't want that type of socialization, I guess.
There's a big report out on daycare.
Just throwing your kid into a daycare, and it says they're many times more likely to be violent.
I think it speaks to parents educating and raising their children.
Oh, wow, what a novel idea.
And I guess that, as your father said, it's competition to their monopoly.
That's the truth, Alex.
Any idea on who, quote, filed this anonymous Stasi-type report?
I mean, again, your daughter's in the newspaper.
Oh, look how young and smart she is, 3.84, you know, graduating from college at 15, in college at 11, and then suddenly the police and the CPS are after you.
I mean, I would imagine that this was probably a complaint filed by a CPS worker.
What do you think?
I think it's entirely possible.
The bottom line is that when I started this,
I didn't wind up making any friends among the establishment, among the educrats.
And I did, in fact, openly defy them.
Did I break the law on paper officially?
Yes, I did.
Guilty as charged.
The bottom line is that I have stood there and said, I am not going to comply with the compulsory education law, as you folks have interpreted it.
Well, they had laws that black people couldn't drink out of water fountains.
So does that mean those laws are good?
Well, that's precisely the point, Alex.
When you have a law that says that,
You know, sure, that was on the books, but the point is that it was declared unconstitutional.
In other words, they didn't have the right to pass such a law.
And the argument we're making is the very same thing, that the government didn't have the right to pass a compo... For example, it's supposed to be a compulsory education law on the books, not a compulsory attendance law.
The only people that I know that are serving compulsory attendance are those that have been convicted of felonies and misdemeanors, and they've been sentenced for a crime.
Yeah, but that's really what they're doing.
High school's not supposed to be a prison.
Well, you ought to read the federal documents.
That's exactly what they are, and you've just hit on it.
Just with your own native intelligence without even seeing the documents.
Sir, I have UNESCO, Department of Education, and I got Senate hearings 100 years ago where they said it's about molding minds for this mass basic system for the state.
So, I mean, what you just said is exactly what they have stated, and the teachers are dumbed down and go, oh, I'm not doing that.
Well, you're following the orders in a compartmentalized system that deploys and develops that type of mass mind control.
Angela Lipsman, any other comments that you'd like to make to the audience?
Or Daniel Lipsman, your father, any final comments for the listeners?
Well, I just...
I believe that the decision that came down was unfair.
Obviously, I don't think the judge believes the same, but I just hope that this turns out for the best and that other students out there will be able to pursue their education however is best for them.
As for me, Alex, my view is very simple.
We have a Constitution.
We're supposed to be living by that Constitution.
And the judge is supposed to uphold the Constitution.
And when you get a decision like this, that says that law is whatever I say it is, and what's constitutional or not is whatever I say it is, that's disgraceful and brings disgrace to the black robe that the judge wears.
Sir, you know somebody can walk in and take the bar, and if they can pass it, they can become a lawyer without going to law school.
You know somebody can get into medical school, even if they haven't finished college, if the examiners believe that they're up to par.
Now, I don't know about the particular laws in New York on this, but I believe the college can go ahead and give her her diploma that she's earned with an 8.4...
Well, unfortunately, Alex, they also have a law in place in New York that says that without having a high school diploma first or its equivalent, you cannot get your college degree, and this college would be shut down immediately if they issued her degree without that.
Wow, New York really is bad.
You've got the bureaucrats telling the professors and the deans, this is out of control.
This is out of control.
Well, it's simple.
It's a business.
They want a monopoly of their quasi-re-education slash preparation for the penal colony system.
That's what the public schools are.
I'm serious.
And they're trying to destroy your daughter's future.
Mr. Lipsman, I think you have massive, massive damages if they continue this.
Thank you, Alex.
For folks that might want to, we have a lot of lawyers, a lot of people that listen to this show.
We have a couple of affiliates in upstate New York, three of them.
We're on in Buffalo and Rochester and Niagara.
For folks that might want to call the governor or the school board or the city, the legislature, for folks that want to support you in New York, how do they do that?
Well, what I would suggest is that they write their state senator and state assemblymen, particularly the state senators, and say, see here, we have a constitution.
And it should be respected.
We have a way of reversing the effects of this decision.
And the way to do that is to have the state legislature pass a rule which... That your children are your children and you control their education.
Now, real quick, do you have an email address for folks that might want to contact you?
Angela, do you have your email address?
Would you like to give it out?
I mean, you don't have to.
I'm just saying people might send you guys some federal rulings, state rulings.
Well, no, the problem, Alex, is that she shares it with two other kids, and they may not want to.
Oh, I understand now.
Well, if folks want to get a hold of you, I'm sure they can find out how to do it.
I can give my address, though.
I don't mind that.
It's Daniel Lipsman, L-I-P-S-M-A-N, 4420 Broadway, apartment 4F, as in Frank, New York City, New York,
Okay, go ahead.
And I'll be glad to respond to anybody and everybody that I can.
Well, if more Americans stood up and really loved their children, and now you're a young adult, and really cared, and if more people were focused like your daughter, we would live in a free society.
But I'm telling you, Mr. Lipsman, we're losing America, and I think you recognize that.
And to get America back, more Americans have to recognize that, and hopefully before they get squashed,
By this corrupt system.
Thank you for coming on the show.
Thank you, Alex.
God bless you.
And Angela, you take care and keep it up.
All right.
There you have it, ladies and gentlemen.
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Hi, Alex.
I'm glad to see that you had that gentleman on today.
Oh, yeah, where it's illegal now to have your 15-year-old with a 3.84 rate average, so the government's coming after him with CPS.
Well, I'm going to tell you something.
There's a few things there you should get some really good legal counsel, both in New York State education law and constitutional law.
And he kind of is, with his own, as you said, native intelligence, deriving at some conclusions that are accurate.
First thing that he was wrong on, though, is he said New York can't be sued.
It's a sovereign.
New York is not a sovereign state.
Well, I mean, of course government claims you can't sue them, but they lose suits all the time.
Alex, in the state of New York, they can't even claim that.
It's not a sovereign state.
Georgia's a sovereign state.
The United States government is a sovereign.
New York is not a sovereign.
That's commonly known for a very long time.
He can sue any executive agency, such as Child Protective Services in the state of New York.
No, but of course he'll tell you you can't.
Well, they can say what they want.
Okay, real quick, Ron.
Anything else?
Secondly, believe it or not, aside from his constitutional and educational arguments that he has, there is a process by which, because the educational law, which I'm familiar with, states the minimums that are required in order to get a high school diploma.
His daughter exceeded the minimums.
They want to punish her because it sets a precedent.
Thanks for the call.
They want your kid dumbed down.
They want him in the prison system.
Schools, public schools, are a preparatory system for prison.
And this is admitted, folks.
Dave in California, in Northern California, welcome.
Howdy, Alex.
I just wanted to congratulate you on your excellent interview with Ann Coulter last week.
Hello, Dave.
The level of discourse I heard from her is a good example of the dumbing down of America that you're discussing right now.
It's a babbling neocon.
Yes, and mainly I just wanted to tell you that I was thrilled to hear her honking and flapping like a goose that's been run over by a truck.
You know, it doesn't surprise me.
Did we expose her as the liberal she is, to use her own term?
Yeah, you did a great job.
You let her dig her own ditch, then you bulldozed her into it.
I mean...
And I love the dumb blonde question you asked at the beginning, and I was kind of wondering, you know, where's he going with this?
And then at the end, you know, you left her exposed to either the dumb blonde that she is or the dumb blonde she claims to be because she didn't have any facts.
And the Bush mascot thing was nice, and the neocon thing was nice.
All in all, I mean, I give you an A-plus on that, man.
It was really nice to hear for a change.
Everybody loved that.
Look, we've got more neocons coming on for you.
I'm going to have all of them on the show.
Oh, that's great.
Well, I'll be sure and listen to you every day.
Both large and small neocons will be on display.
Thank you, Dave.
Okay, see you, man.
Appreciate it, brother.
Bill in Wisconsin, you're on the air worldwide.
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Yeah, Alex, I just want to agree with the last caller there.
You did a tremendous job on her.
I just can't stand her.
She really thinks she's something, and you did a job.
She said, I haven't read the Patriot Act.
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And I said, don't tell me it's about Hillary Clinton.
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Another thing that she said, Republicans always end the wars.
Well, Nixon ended that Vietnam War, didn't he?
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It just came out on the national news here the other day, and, you know, we've known about it for quite some time, but Harry Truman did not want to run again, and actually in 1948 didn't want to run again.
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Very interesting information.
You know, on Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com, we've posted AP, Reuters, Not A Press International, BBC stories about major corporations...
The United Nations, UN peacekeepers, and other running giant white slavery rings.
Now, this is all mainstream news.
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But it's hard for the average American to believe stuff like this.
You know, it was hard to believe what John Wayne Gacy did or Ted Bundy.
But throughout history, you find elites are involved in this more often than the common man or woman.
So the common man or woman is in denial.
I had a chance to read some of his book.
I just got it last week, and it's Race Against Evil, The Secret Missions of the Interpol Agent Who Tracked the World's Most Seneca Criminals.
And I know there's good people in government.
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His assignments take him from the slave houses of Thailand and the disappearance of London's most notorious child pornographer to investigating the KAL858 bombing and tracking terrorists and criminals in the United States.
And it's an interesting book, to say the least.
And again, David Race Bannon, Ph.D., holds a doctorate degree in history, a master's degree in computer science, and high black belts in several martial arts, fluent in Korean and Japanese.
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Bannon has appeared on the Discovery Channel, A&E, and History Channel.
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And Dr. Bannon, good to have you on the show.
Appreciate you joining us.
I should say this.
The blurb on the book, on the inside jacket, I didn't write it.
There's a marketing professional who put that together.
Yeah, it kind of sounds like that, doesn't it?
Oh, yeah.
In this stunning expose, the shocking truth revealed.
But, you know, I had trouble.
I scan news wires every day.
And you in...
We're good to go.
I think?
Certainly the sub-directorate of Interpol for which I worked, Archangel, our job was to identify those who buy and sell children across international lines.
Having said that, you've mentioned previously a couple of times, very good point, for most listeners it's difficult to wrap our brains around this type of crime.
Just so that people are aware,
I'm going to be tossing out some statistics.
They can go to my website, davidbannon.net, and get all of the information in our press library that I'll be quoting.
They'll be able to read the various reports from universities, etc.
Here in the United States, some 269,000 children were smuggled into the United States for the sex trade just last year.
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We're good to go.
Not only terrifies us, but generates such disbelief.
Well, Dr. Bannon, also the establishment's involved in this.
They use it for blackmail, and it's a massive money laundering operation.
Did you hear about DynCorp actually got caught in court and civilly convicted and had to admit it, that they were involved in a 200,000 kidnapped women and children transporting them out of the Balkans?
I mean, that's $200,000, and it's in the back of Reuters a couple times.
I mean, you know, this is horrible.
So what I'm saying is every time I track it back, it's the U.N., it's major corporations, and then there are federal agencies and other agencies that are trying to stop it, but they always get pulled off of it when they get too high up the chain.
Exactly correct.
My years with Interpol...
When we were assigned to track these individuals, many times we would find within a network of these slavery rings, there are individuals highly placed, either religious or political leaders or people of old money, and very seldom were those individuals our targets.
Instead, we would target people lower down the chain.
And then it really becomes an overarching system, an intelligence system, so the elite knows how close other agencies are getting to what they're doing.
That is correct.
And I do believe that there are a lot of people at Interpol who wanted this terrible traffic to stop and were doing everything they could to stop it.
But I also know that frequently...
Now, you would assassinate these people?
The teams with Archangel, known as Cleaners, were, in essence, assassination teams, yes.
And I guess we'll talk about that when we get back.
But how did you get into this?
That's really, I guess, where the story should start.
Oh, sure.
Do we want to talk about it when we get back?
We've got a few minutes right now.
I just wanted to warn you of that.
How did this start?
Well, I started as a Mormon missionary in South Korea, of all things, and got involved in a riot in South Korea at the time.
It was a very war-torn country.
Some 2,500 students were killed during that riot, and I was required to use lethal force to defend myself.
My actions came to the attention of an Interpol recruiter, and it was just convenient for him to have somebody who had Korean language training
We're good to go.
I think?
The reason being that if you have someone young and naive who will equate service to God with service to country, you can get them to do anything.
And they're intelligent, but they compartmentalize that and are very blind to corruption around them.
Oh, the end justifies the means.
Yes, frequently so.
And the training that we were given was very arduous, daily hours of it,
Teaching us essentially that these people who traffic in children are evil and that we were unique in the world, the only ones who could eliminate or eradicate these individuals.
I'm not saying that the crime is not evil in itself.
What I'm saying is that the training convinced us of such.
Well, it certainly is evil, but then out of this they create a cadre that will kill on command.
And the point is these scums should be brought to justice and publicly executed.
And again, the overreaching system of government control is to actually control this industry.
And just like the drug trade, they go after the small-time dealer, not the cartels.
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His job to offer battle.
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Dr. David Bannon, Ph.D., is our guest, and he was a Mormon missionary in South Korea and got recruited.
And the information he's bringing up here, I mean, I know it all to be accurate because we've studied this here on the show, among many other corrupt things the globalists are up to.
And so they're told that you're this elite cadre, you're going to go out and you're going to kill these traffickers, which I certainly can't disagree with, but then you've got the government building this secret group of assassins, and then it's the government itself involved in all of it at a higher level.
Dr. Bannon, continuing, you get recruited into this subgroup of Interpol.
Please continue.
The sub-director within Interpol was known as Archangel, and essentially Archangel was assigned to identify what are known as producers of child pornography, and I'll tell you the difference.
The consumer trader is the individual that might be a fourth grade teacher that we've heard about.
He's buying and selling kiddie porn and abusing local children.
As horrible as that is, the producers are even worse.
They're the ones who buy and sell children across international lines as young as three months old,
We're good to go.
I think?
How many people did you torture and kill, Doctor?
If I may dodge that question, I will answer this.
The head of Archangel, Commissioner Jacques Deferre with Interpol, told me that of the some 250 Archangel cleaners or assassins, most of them were responsible for into three digits.
Three digits?
Yes, sir.
But you look at the BBC and Reuters, I mean...
Don Corr and the UN, 200,000 people flown out, women and children.
I mean, how big is this?
I mean, this is amazing.
It is of huge global proportions.
The money that is generated is into the billions of dollars.
Terrorist cells use child pornography to fund their activities because the money is easy to come by and it is so... Now, were you aware of the Finders case in the 80s in D.C.
where they go into the warehouse and the CIA runs it and it's full of all this stuff and the police get called off the case?
I heard about it.
I was not involved in it, however.
So, I mean, I'm trying to get back to this because I... I mean, this is...
From your years in this fighting, as you said, a lot of it was low-level people that you were eliminating.
Nice word for it.
But then you talked about the connections higher up.
I mean, what really runs this?
What does it lead back to?
Well, ultimately it comes down to money, as almost all of these pernicious rings do.
The producers themselves had to have customers.
When we were able to extract information from the producers, frequently they would name more powerful people who were funding their activities and who were purchasing much of the material as well as purchasing the children themselves.
Some of the names that we were given we would deliver to our commissioner and never hear again.
They were names of people that are infamous in the world for their work.
Either political, monetary, or religious influence.
Yeah, that's just incredible to see this going on.
What happened on the first assassination mission you went on?
At the time, Romania was communist, and I was assigned to track an individual who had kidnapped a six-year-old boy from a London orphanage
And after a short stop in France, he had taken the child to communist Romania where child prostitution was legal.
He was then selling the child in prostitution, recording images and selling those and had made a deal to sell the child to a brothel for the rest of the child's life in Thailand.
So this communist state was all for this?
Remarkably so.
Communist Romania at the time, it was against the law to have abortions.
Everyone was encouraged to have six children.
The idea being that the more they increased their workforce, the more they would be an influence in the world.
What ultimately happened, of course, is there were too many children, and when everyone is desperately poor...
And there's too many children.
There are those who will take advantage.
Yeah, that was a BBC News article, and this is admitted, it's not a conspiracy theory, where they addict the kids to opium to make them work.
Oh, absolutely.
Oh, yes.
And they went in and showed them vitigo.
It's not even hidden.
So, I mean, it's just the world is so evil, and we're so naive here in America.
Stay there, Doctor.
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Dr. David Bannon, when he was 19, was a missionary, a Christian missionary over in South Korea and got recruited in to a sub-directorate of Interpol called Archangel.
And they would go around killing the, I guess, lower mid-level scumbags or literal demons.
And we're also going to go to some of your calls here in just a few minutes.
I don't know where to...
You know, where to go with this?
I've got so many questions, Dr. Bannon.
But you'd go out and assassinate these people, and then later you discovered that people higher up weren't being gone after.
Can you break that down for us?
Oh, sure.
I had mentioned earlier that the technical arm of the subdirectorate within Interpol, known as Rosetta, would identify these producers and hand us dossiers.
We then were encouraged to infiltrate the network, just basically doing standard undercover work.
We would develop a complete legend or cover story and get as much information as possible before we ultimately eliminated our targets, sometimes using torture if necessary.
While we were doing this, we often would uncover many names within the network that were not known to us, just low-level producers, again, all across the world, and occasionally a name would pop up that was immediately recognizable, or upon further research we could see was highly placed within a government, within a religious organization, or some major global corporation.
Were you allowed to go after those people?
Not once.
That's amazing.
So in a way, again, it was an intelligence bureau for those in the establishment that were doing this to insulate themselves.
And just talking around the warehouse where we trained at Archangel, talking with some of our supervisors, etc., we do know that there were occasionally times when these individuals were blackmailed with the information that we had uncovered to suit the current agenda of Interpol.
Just an average, committing hundreds of assassinations, an average assassination, how would that play out?
Well, each assassination team, a team of cleaners, usually was three or four individuals.
Sometimes we were sent out singly or in teams.
The teams had their own strengths and weaknesses.
My particular forte was what's known as close wet work, that is,
Close quarter combat using hands or bladed weapons, quiet kills.
So walking up and stabbing somebody in the neck or head?
Basic special forces type stuff?
Yes, yes, absolutely.
And the methods that we used were designed to eliminate the person quickly and quietly.
There were other methods used, of course, and there were individuals who specialized in that.
Poisoning, shootings, ever sabotage vehicles, or was that not sure enough?
That is definitely not sure enough.
And again, we frequently wanted to isolate the individuals so that we could extract as much information as possible.
So basically, you'd be waiting in their apartment or house at night, have somebody in a car surveilling that they were alone, and then have somebody block the hallway once they go in the room and then torture them there?
Frequently, that happened.
What happens with many of these producers is they are collectors.
They keep a huge number, sometimes tens of thousands of images of child pornography
In a secret location in their home, either in the basement or in a secret room.
It's very common among this type of individual.
We were able to then use that room where they kept their secret stash and where they frequently molested children to return the favor and torture them for information.
So you would use that secure location.
There was a story out of Belgium, and it was on the BBC television.
I saw it.
Mark Petro.
Yeah, and hundreds of thousands protested and demonstrated because they found the dead kids in his torture chamber, and it led back to government officials, so they kind of killed the investigation.
Can you speak to that case?
As a matter of fact, I was involved.
He was known as the Belgian Beast, and of the many, many children that he abused and individuals that he killed,
The most notorious, perhaps the one that got most press, were the two eight-year-old girls that were kept in his locked room in the basement for three weeks until they ultimately were starved to death.
Belgian beast is the appropriate term, and when he was arrested and then released and arrested again, all of this came to international attention.
But what many of the listeners may not be aware of is that there was a vast network connected to
Well, Senator John DeCamp, are you familiar with the Franklin cover-up story?
Please explain.
Well, they had gone to the savings and loan in Lincoln, Nebraska, and found a bunch of this stuff with the top Republican Party people in the state.
And he was one of the former top people in the state senate.
He was actually hired to disprove all this.
He found out it was true.
A bunch of his private investigators got assassinated.
Their planes blew up, stuff like that.
He got diaries, all this stuff, police reports.
It led back to a place called, well, a place where they have a big stone owl and do rituals in northern California, what the children described.
Then the police swooped in.
The FBI swooped in.
International security grabbed all the stuff.
But he did confirm that.
Well, that's an excellent question and one that I frequently wrestled with.
We found that the global traffic was so huge and no matter how much we tried to combat it, there was always more.
And once you have people with influence and money involved in a particular traffic, they're going to protect their interests.
What we found with the Belgian Beast case is that
Well, that's incredible.
Dr. Ray Spannin, again, for those who just tuned in, just recap about yourself.
We're good to go.
We're good to go.
The problem is that then you get into the government creating this precedent to use it against people who aren't guilty, and obviously if they would have brought this out in the open, they could have been tried.
A jury of their peers would have given them the death penalty, but again, you have people high up in society who wouldn't have allowed that to happen, and then here you are time and time again finding out this is being used to blackmail public officials and being used at higher levels.
So really just being a backdoor intelligence community to have a grasp on what was going on in their own industry.
How many years did this go on?
How long were you involved in this, in killing these demons?
And then how did you wrestle with the torture part, though, to extract the information?
And then why did you finally get out, and what happened when you tried to get out?
Well, that's a whole long question.
First, the number of years, about 18 years.
My last assignment was in 1999.
My primary work, where it was just day in and day out, every day working for Archangel, was about four years, however, in the 1980s.
After that, I was just used on occasional assignments because so many of the cleaners suffered from burnout, and certainly I did.
The dull, throbbing horror of taking another person's life and of using...
Torture techniques to extract information, of course, plays heavily on one's soul and is very difficult to deal with.
You had asked how did I address it.
Frequently, these individuals, we would either catch them with child or we would catch them surrounded by video or photographic images of this individual abusing children.
Seeing those images, it was not too difficult then to use the methods in which I was trained to extract the information.
Yeah, you're literally just sending a demon back to hell.
Certainly, I think it is arguable, and I felt very strongly at the time, that of all human evils, the abuse of very young children must be on the top of the list.
Well, Joseph Mingala did it in Germany and then was brought and protected by the CIA.
And that's admitted History Channel stuff.
We have the government doing hundreds of thousands of young girls in eugenics programs, being sterilized, being practiced on by medical experiments, by doctors, the retarded children being radiated, the parents being told it was a treatment, they radiate them, they die hours later.
I mean, we have...
Again, there's just so much of this.
It's almost institutionalized in some of the other forms that aren't sexual, just using children coldly as medical experiments.
I don't understand.
Again, I can't even begin to understand how this even happens.
It goes so counter to my programming that I don't even... I mean, I see the reports.
I know what's going on.
I don't know.
And that's the nature of atrocity, Alex, is that it is so grotesque and so huge, it's difficult for us to wrap our brains around it.
As Stalin said, when one person dies, it's a tragedy, but when 10,000 die, it's a statistic.
Oh, exactly.
And I think if someone had not grown up in history class and had never heard of the Holocaust, to be told those numbers...
They wouldn't believe it.
They would resist.
Or that Stalin killed 50 million people.
They would resist that.
And it's exactly what happens with the child sex trade.
Even in Thailand right now, you spoke of institutionalization.
In Thailand, it's institutionalized and legal so that anyone can go on the Internet and sign up for a child sex tour in that country.
I have to ask this question.
If they're looking for a war...
And they need an idea for a war this week.
Perhaps protecting innocent children might come on top of the list.
You know, I agree.
Kim Jong-il lives in a seven-story pleasure palace.
He has kidnapped, you know, whole jets full of women and had them take it to his country and then apologized to Japan.
I'm sorry I killed the people I kidnapped.
That was just a few months ago in Time Magazine.
You know, sure, nuke him, okay?
But the point is they're just going to put some other dictatorship in there.
But, yeah, Thailand, I mean, this is a pit of evil.
What about Saudi Arabia?
Oh, right, right.
I mean, there was an article where they...
You know, where the jets land just full of this stuff.
And there are many other countries where it's either legal or half legal or illegal, but it's a wink and a nod.
China, it's certainly a wink and a nod.
In Japan, it's legal to own reproductions and all of this child pornography, but in theory illegal to purchase a child prostitute, although in Tokyo's
Well, it's just across the board.
There's all these massive evils, and you've got naive Americans.
I mean, that's why this system gets away with all this, because...
People are so naive.
We're living in our own little worlds with our green yards and our SUVs and season tickets.
And I don't want to believe this, but just scanning news wires every day, I just run into it in mouths.
It's everywhere.
Sure, it's everywhere.
And as you mentioned, this naive tendency to disbelieve is in a small way responsible for the perpetuation of this atrocity.
And until we, as citizens of the world, band together to stop it, it will continue.
But then we see it being misdirected many times by the perpetrators in government, where then a family just takes a picture of their eight-month-old baby playing in the...
Oh, well, I think that there's a mania that's caused, and it's easier to feed that mania
And therefore satisfy individuals and satisfy the public outcry without actually doing anything.
So it's another sub-level of what you were doing, killing low-level people instead of high-level people.
Right, right.
And the problem is so much more huge than that and so grotesque.
People who read my book probably will find it, although very interesting and a necessary book,
Also very disturbing because the reality of how individuals torture children as young as 18 months and buy and sell them to others for the same sexual purposes is so grotesque.
And the fact that it has not come out as much as it should.
It's just the occasional newswire.
There was a big report in Italy about stuff in Russia abusing and then killing male toddlers.
And then it led back to a Hollywood group, and the story got killed, and the Italian news producers that did the story got fired.
Did you hear about that last year?
I remember reading it in a sum-up in a magazine, yes.
So, it's just...
I just wish there was a new world to go to, like they did in 1776 or 1650s or whatever.
I don't know.
I mean, I wish we could just get away from it, but you can't.
How do you deal with it?
And the archangel answer, and I'm not saying this is the correct answer, because the reason I wrote the book was to increase awareness of this problem and also to let people know of the activities of organizations like Interpol.
Interpol is the world's second largest international organization, right next to the UN.
It has 180 plus member countries.
You never hear about it.
Right, and you never hear about it, which is a testament to their effectiveness as an intelligence agency.
Are they mad at you for reporting on this?
They are furious.
Just over the last two months, culminating on May the 10th, there has been a lot of tension between Interpol officers sent to
We're good to go.
And ultimately, my supervisor... You know, that's the secret here, is good men and women standing up in government saying no to all the corruption, all the different facets of it, and the facet you're involved in, and saying no to this.
We're not going along with it, and we're not going to carry this out anymore.
And from surprising locations, the vice president of Interpol in Asia...
came to my aid, emphatically condemning that they were trying to stop the publication of this book.
Now, I interrupted you.
All right.
I wanted to talk about what the solutions are, and you were saying what Archangel's solution was.
We'll talk about that.
We'll take a few calls when we get back with Dr. Ray Spannon.
Ray Spannon, of course.
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It's horrible, it's upsetting, it's depressing.
But as Patrick Henry said, if we don't face the truth, we'll be destroyed.
And folks, on Infowars.com, on PrisonPlanet.com, I got AP, Reuters, BBC, UPI.
With DynCorp and the UN, 200,000 women and children in one year alone.
We're good to go.
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I think?
Would you like to elaborate on that, Doctor, then we'll go to some calls?
Well, I just got the impression over a number of years that Archangel's solution of eliminating these producers who were skating around international laws and using their power brokers of influence to escape prosecution, those targets could be identified, but anyone higher up, it seemed to me they were often being coddled and protected.
And I did not believe that the Interpol upper echelon was aggressively pursuing a strategy that would eliminate... And you said that you had the info they were using to blackmail.
Now, you talk about Thailand, a military invasion, I'm all for it.
I mean, that's pure evil.
And in ten minutes, Bush could get the evidence of what he needed to go into Thailand.
But they don't even have sanctions on Thailand.
We should have sanctions on them, shouldn't we?
Not even sanctions.
It amazes me that the things that we seem to worry about and obsess over, and yet here are literally thousands of innocent children.
And I've been in Thailand on a number of assignments, and we saw parents with children as young as two years old walking up to brothels to sell them into slavery.
This should not be allowed by any citizen.
Those parents should have their heads blown off and the child should be given to adoption.
Hearing that, I want to kill them.
I understand how you could do this.
By the way, we were mentioning that in the book there's a lot of information that those who are in the know will immediately recognize as accurate information.
Also, people who go to my website, davidbannon.net, can go to the Press Library where there are hundreds of pages of documentation to support this terrible, terrible information.
How do folks get the properly named book, Race Against Evil?
Oh, they can pick it up through my website, and if they order it through there, we'll donate $1 to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children for every book they purchase.
They can get it at any of their local bookstores as well.
All right.
We're going to break here in a second.
You're going to stay with us until the next hour or so.
I appreciate that, Donovan.
Who's up first, Mark, you were telling me?
We'll go ahead and go to one caller now.
Irving in Colorado.
Go ahead, Irving.
You're on the air.
Yes, I wanted to know if Dr. Bannon could shed any light on the story in Massachusetts in 1980 in Watertown, Massachusetts, the arson ring and the murder ring for hire and the child sex for hire.
It was discovered that police officials retired an active clergy.
That was actually in the newspaper.
Any comments to that, Dr. Bannon?
I am not familiar with that case.
Okay, this goes back, like I said, to the 1980s.
And it was basically just dropped.
No one was ever persecuted, brought to trial, or anything.
And I wanted to know if it was connected to the Ferraros.
Geraldine Ferraro's husband, who was a foreign kingpin on the East Coast.
I don't know about that.
I remember the news articles saying something about them.
We'll talk about it in the... I don't like to make substantiated comments here, and we have enough stuff that's out in the open.
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All right, we're talking about a horrible subject, but we don't talk about it, the pure wickedness, the abuse of kidnapped women and children that is in the millions every year.
Just out of Eastern Europe alone, according to the UN's own numbers, will continue.
It is massive.
Of course, the New American Magazine a few years ago published the video stills of UN peacekeepers burning small children over fires, cutting their heads off.
They have art exposés on Channel 4, World of Wonder, a few months ago, where they eat dead babies on TV.
So they're eating babies on TV and watching it as an art display on British national TV.
So, I mean, this stuff's gotten so out in the open, it's everywhere now, and we cannot ignore it.
Dr. David Race Bannon, PhD, is our guest.
He was an assassin or cleaner for Interpol, killing low-level individuals and then collecting the data and using it at higher-up levels for blackmail against government officials.
This is amazing stuff.
He has a lot of courage to go public with this.
We're taking calls.
We'll talk to now Will.
Will, where are you calling from, sir?
In the country, Will.
Hello, sir.
Yes, where are you calling from?
Yeah, I'm in Norfolk, Virginia.
Okay, you're on the air with our guest.
Go ahead.
Yes, sir, Mr. Bannon.
Thank you for being on the program there, and thank you, Alex, for having him on.
I would also urge you to look into John DeCant's book, The Franklin Cover-Up,
Senator DeCamp.
And by the way, a Virginia TV station accused him of being a liar.
He sued them and won over a million dollars.
He has the names.
And, of course, it mentions a place in Northern California where world leaders meet.
Well, I'm not going to get into it here on air.
It sounds to me like you're not just talking about the local pervert in his trench coat, but some really high...
Thank you.
Thank you.
I have an interest in both these things.
Well, the caller, obviously, you're picking up on this, he's saying just like the drug war, they go after the small-time dealer but not the cartel leader who laundered his money to the big banks.
Right, and certainly that is a very real part of this traffic, and there's been enough media coverage to support that.
I should say this.
It's easier, I think, for a lot of people to...
Imagine a child molester to be the creepy guy standing on the street corner.
It's much more difficult to recognize that the perpetrators are men and women of great influence in societies all across the world.
And there is a lot of money involved.
It's all about the exercise of power.
These people exercise power, and they're sickos, and they're sadistic.
And look, Nero did it.
The Aztecs did it.
Every time we look back in history, this is an elite practice, is it not, Doctor?
It is very much so.
And my Ph.D.
is in Asian history from Seoul National University, by the way.
And I can assure you that all throughout Asian history, as well as Western history,
The elite have pursued this grotesque and dark fetish.
There you go, ladies and gentlemen.
That's the New World Order for you.
Pure trash, pure evil.
Anything else, Will?
No, that's all.
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Thank you, Will.
Oh, man.
You know what, listeners?
You kept telling me to have this guy on.
What he's saying is accurate, unfortunately.
And I just... It's horrible.
And we have to talk about it.
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I think?
Our guest is Dr. David Bannon.
His website is davidbannon.net, or you can simply go to infowars.com where we post who our guests are.
We just did a little bit later update today at about 1230 because we put up a lot of news stories today.
A large update today.
So go to InfoWars.com.
You can link through to DavidBannon.net if you forget the website or don't have the spelling.
But it's DavidBannon.net.
The book, Race Against Evil.
And Dr. Bannon, I didn't bring my book to the studio today with me that I got last week.
Who publishes your book?
New Horizon Press.
They're an imprint of Penguin Publishing.
Wow, so a big publisher, was it?
And folks, we interview a lot of folks who publish books.
They don't just let you write a book like this without checking it out.
And it's amazing.
And reading the book, unfortunately, it looks accurate to me.
I wish it.
Wasn't the case.
I wish that the former Defense Secretary wasn't saying that we're, quote, going to get newt in the next year.
That's the Washington Post.
I mean, it's like somebody put us into an alternate reality or shifted something, or is it just that we're more aware of it now, Dr. Bannon?
I do think that there has been a lot of work done by many individuals, particularly Andrew Vax has been a very vocal child advocate, and so I think it is a credit to humanity that in the past 20 years there has been much more awareness of this problem.
It's existed certainly for centuries.
So it's an old institutionalized system.
But I mean, you know, as a Ph.D., as someone who's studied history, just all the overall craziness, the going to war with North Korea, Patriot Act I and II, the borders are still wide open.
We keep going back to that.
I mean, just...
Your analysis of the basic craziness of the world today.
I confess that there's just nothing new in the world.
The craziness is a continuation.
I think that we have much more information than we've ever had, and certainly we can thank shows like yours, Alex, for that.
So that's really it?
You think that we're just more aware of it?
Yes, very much so.
To give you just a North Korea idea, I myself was imprisoned in a slave labor camp in North Korea when I was captured during an Interpol assignment.
My Ph.D.
is in Asian history from Seoul National University, so I like to pretend I know a lot about this country.
I can assure you that North Korea has been working on weapons of mass destruction programs, biological chemical weapons, for 20 years.
Well, I've got articles eight years old where they were testing nukes.
This whole thing of you've got to attack them before they get nukes is a joke.
Oh, it is.
It is.
It's a huge joke, and everyone on the inside has known this.
It may be that it's now just more politically convenient.
I've got to hear about this, Dr. Bannon.
So you got captured in this North Korean camp.
How did you get out?
What was that like?
Because we just read the Wall Street Journal article where when the people starve to death, they hang out their carcasses and sell the meat.
That is correct.
And there are many horrendous torture methods involved.
I was only there for a little under a week until I was traded back
I bet you thank God for that one.
What's that?
I bet you thank God that you got out of there.
Oh, I thank God and all of my friends with Interpol and the Korean Secret Service who came to my aid.
Otherwise, I'd still be there if not dead.
So the communists for a long time across the board have been funding themselves not just with drugs but with the other garbage?
Oh, absolutely.
Any terrorist cell is going to use whatever means necessary to fund its activities.
I was involved in a joint operation with Interpol and the counter-terrorist French DST agency
Where we approached a cell of North Korean terrorists who were using child pornography and buying and selling children to fund their activities, including a bombing of the Paris embassy.
During that confrontation, my fiancé, Sude Rimbaud, who was an officer with the DST, was killed protecting the lives of others by a North Korean terrorist.
And that's what ultimately led to my willingly embracing the role that we played of eliminating these individuals.
And she died in your arms?
Yes, she did.
She died there on the street, and after she was shot, it was really just a moment, just one or two minutes before she died.
That's just amazing, and this is all on the record, folks.
Just incredible.
Let's talk to Dan in Illinois.
Dan, you're on the air.
Go ahead.
How are you doing, Alex?
Pretty good, sir.
The last caller kind of touched on what I was going to say, but the fact that you couldn't pursue the higher-ups, isn't this like the equivalent of being controlled by the same kind of perverts you were chasing?
An excellent question, and certainly as time went on, as I matured as an individual and learned more about the entire operations of the organization for which I worked, I realized that we were not necessarily a solution, but really just a duct tape job.
And that was one of the many reasons I ultimately left Interpol.
I'm glad to hear that.
It is very hypocritical in the long run.
And it's so much like corruption is.
It's like, do as I say, don't do as I do.
Right, right.
Okay, well, thank you.
Well, it's like that everywhere.
I mean, you have the British and the U.S.
government are the real proliferators of the reactors, of the uranium, of the missile parts, and then they'll ignore all that when they've got evidence of weapons of mass destruction because they've got the receipt, and they'll just make something up to legitimize what they're doing.
It's incredible.
Let's talk to Wesley in Tennessee.
Wesley, you're on the air with our guest, Dr. Bannon.
Go ahead.
Hi, Dr. Bannon.
How are you today, Alex?
I guess I'm doing all right.
Alex, you mentioned something before about if we take out guys like this, that we're not any better than the Vietnamese that shot American pilots, but I beg to correct you on that.
We were the good guys.
When you do something like that, it's an irreversible decision.
Hold on, hold on, Leslie.
I've said that the emotions I have at hearing Dr. Bannon talk about parents there selling their kids into this is that my emotion is blow their heads off.
But when you go down that road then, it...
It's rid of the Bill of Rights and Constitution, which then allows the government to use those type of secret execution powers on everybody, and the way government works is they will, and then you have the evidence of the government high up involved in this, protecting the high-level individuals.
And what I was saying is that torture...
When you start down that road of torture, then I guess you have to say, okay, then I guess the North Vietnamese were okay.
I mean, what are you getting at here?
I'm sorry.
I'm trying to understand.
I stand corrected that I misunderstood you.
I wanted to say I'm the guy that got yanked out of my car and hit a...
9mm Caltech stolen out of the trunk of my car.
It's been a long time since I talked to you.
You called about a year ago and said you were there in Tennessee.
You're a WBCR listener and it was in the paper.
The Army was out just running checkpoints.
This was before 9-1-1.
And they jerked you out of your car and you're in a wheelchair and they roughed you up a bit and stole your gun.
Well, you'd be proud of me.
I got stopped at a road check on the 4th of July and I absolutely refused to...
To display my license that I refused to let anybody search my car, and I told them if they wanted to search it, they were going to have to come back with a warrant from a sign and seal from a judge.
Yeah, absolutely.
After about a half an hour of standing around, they just finally got tired of it and told me to get in my car and go.
Exactly, but on the subject at hand here, any comments, Wesley?
I just wanted to say that...
In your own local neighborhood, Alex, if you knew of somebody that was engaged in child pornography and you didn't have a shadow of a doubt of the guilt of the perpetrator, how would you suggest people handle something like that?
I don't know.
I guess call the police, but then nothing would probably happen to them.
Dr. Bannon, what would you do?
I don't know.
Oh, I hope to never be faced with that again, although I must say this, the years of archangel training and experience have heavy toll in that even now when I go to church, I find myself immediately scanning for the individuals whose behavior betrays their dark fetish.
I can say this, however, there are indeed many decent working archangels
FBI officers in the country who are working with the Innocent Images Program and the Crimes Against Children Programs who can be contacted directly through the FBI's website.
And also I would add to this that
That on the wider scale, dealing with this corruption, that most people in the government are not involved in this, but that statistically, the number one group, when I read in the newspaper, Dr. Bennington said if I'm right or wrong, that it's the child counselor, it's the CPS worker, it's the truancy officer, I know they busted a lot of them here in Austin,
Don't these predators try to get into positions of power over children or the Boy Scout leader?
I mean, isn't that who you've got to watch?
Very much so, and well said, Alex.
It fits the profile.
It should never surprise us when we learn that a Sunday school teacher, a daycare worker, a truancy officer, guidance counselor, high school teacher, that these individuals are molesting children because part of the profile, as horrible as it sounds...
Is that they truly enjoy and love children.
The dark evil part, of course, is that they also want to have sex with them, and they are attracted to that profession.
And then, they're the people running the CPS, taking your kids, and Time Magazine reported, they're five times more likely to abuse your child than a parent is.
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We'll be talking about the serious escalation in world conflict, discussions of nuclear war.
In the next segment, I want to go to your calls quickly in our final segment with Dr. David Bannon, David Race Bannon, the book Race Against Evil.
Yes, the report of a secret Interpol agent.
Let's go ahead and go to the calls quickly.
John in Tennessee, or is it Texas?
You're on the air.
Go ahead.
Yes, are you aware of the Stanley Hilton class action against Bush Jr.
for perping the 911 massacre and that CIA Director Bush Sr.
protected the snuffed kiddie porn at the Franklin SNL cover-up in Bohemian Grove where Alex infiltrated with hidden video?
Is that to Bannon?
Sir, were you aware of the Bohemian Grove skull and bones?
Again, earlier he said he wasn't aware of the Franklin cover of Senator DeCamp's information.
And I want to make it clear.
It was three years ago in two days.
I snuck into Bohemian Grove and there wasn't any stuff going on with children.
It was a satanic ritual that I shot on video that's aired on the Trio Network.
I should say this.
We've had a number of good questions about cases here in the United States.
My work was primarily based in Europe and Asia, and so I confess ignorance on a number of these particular cases.
Alex, has the murder ever been solved with your friend who went back to the Grove?
A murder of who?
No, that was an Internet rumor.
Ed Holman was never murdered.
He divorced his wife and moved to Houston, but I've seen Ed four or five times.
Now, that shows the type of stuff that goes on around here.
People focus on stuff that isn't accurate.
Okay, thank you.
Okay, Ed went for another software job in...
Ed Holman went and covered the Grove the second year of the protest.
They're going on right now again for the third year since I snuck in.
And then he got deported and moved.
Everybody was saying, Ed's dead.
It's the kind of stuff I deal with.
Like Mark Twain said, the reports of his death are greatly exaggerated.
Yeah, exactly.
Let's go ahead and talk to, I guess, Keith in Florida is up next.
Go ahead, Keith.
You're on the air with Dr. Bannon.
Good afternoon, Dr. Bannon.
Question, Mr. O'Bannon.
Would you ever produce... O'Bannon?
Bannon, I'm sorry.
Okay, go ahead.
Question, would he ever produce a list of people in corporations, high government or high religious areas by name who are in the United States or globally?
You know what I'm saying, like a list of them that were involved that he was preppy to and he couldn't go after?
An excellent question and one I've been asked repeatedly
If I may say this, and I'm entirely selfish in this account, but that is part of the large amount of documentation that I keep secret as an insurance policy for myself and my family.
Yeah, understand this.
If he was going to release that, he had better release it to 100 sources before he announced it because if he was going to release that, they would kill him in a minute.
Well, I understand that, sir.
And that's what I've said before.
You're only safe by going public, folks, not by hiding and sneaking around.
And certainly that is an insurance policy to have that.
But I guarantee if you did release it, they would probably whack you as well.
Oh, yes.
Who knows?
And I think what you said is accurate.
I would have to release it in such a blanket release worldwide.
And I guarantee you you're under surveillance.
Oh, every day.
Thank you, Doctor.
All right.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Yeah, and it's probably dangerous for your life to even discuss releasing it.
Absolutely correct, and I should say it is an insurance policy that I hold on to.
There's, within the intelligence community, a number of operatives, lower-level operatives, who all work with each other so that if something were to happen to one, then the others in another country would immediately release it.
The information that you've amassed over the years.
This is the only insurance these operatives have against their own government.
You got it.
Larry in Indiana, you're on the air.
Larry, go ahead.
Mr. Bannon, confirmation of what you're saying here, it's a distasteful topic, but I was reading about 18-month-old kids being tortured and raped, etc., as part of the...
Oh, absolutely.
And the MKUltra program is notorious for not only abusing these children, but
But also many of the doctors were sexually molesting them as well.
For those listeners who may not be... I'll tell you what, Dr. Bannon, do five more minutes with us on the other side so we can let Larry finish up and then go to Pam.
And that's it for calls because I've got to cover World War III stuff.
Just as serious if that's actually possible, but it is.
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We're here live, our final segment, with Dr. David Bannon.
The website, davidbannon.net.
And let's go back to Larry in Indiana bringing up some of the horrible details that have been documented by Senator DeCamp and others.
Unfortunately, I wish it wasn't going on.
I wish it wasn't true.
Again, the globalists count on us not being able to believe the horror.
Larry, anything else you'd like to bring up, sir?
Well, like we're supposed to believe Amber Alerts really for the children when the CIA goes out and finds them for this.
I would add that...
I mean, they kept going after him, Springmeyer, over and over again, and then just said with no witnesses, oh, you're a bank robber.
It's amazing that this stuff goes on.
And now they have people out trying to discredit his work, pretending to be MKUltra victims themselves, Alex.
His is really good, valid material, and by reading one of his books, I knew that movie The Matrix was loaded with those trigger cues to set those kids off.
Well, it's truth estranged with infection, and we've been too naive too long, and...
We've got to check into it.
Any comments, Dr. Bannon, to what Larry's saying?
Well, we had mentioned the MKUltra program, and I do want to say this.
Those types of programs not only exist in our country but all across the world.
I certainly saw evidence of them in both South and North Korea and China.
Other than that, I think that, as you said,
The best defense we have against all of this type of grotesque traffic of children and the abuse of them, whether through mind control or the sex trade, is awareness.
Can't change anything if you don't expose the tools of the devil, no matter how grotesque the topic.
Thank you, gentlemen.
And it's something that has to be discussed.
Panama, Missouri, last caller for our guest, Dr. Bannon.
Go ahead.
Hi, Alex and Dr. Bannon.
Thank you both for your work.
And those two callers stole my thunder.
I was going to ask, please expose them.
If you know who the higher-ups are, that's the only way to stop it.
And if we don't expose them and don't stop them, it will continue.
I understand your need to protect your family.
Pam, you're right, but the Washington Times...
Parade Magazine, I mean, it's in my Bohemian Grove film.
We don't get into the stuff with the children.
It's just the Washington Times saying these neoconservatives fly in the high-dollar male prostitutes.
And then they run around dressed like women, you know, secretaries of state, former presidents.
I mean, that's the Washington Times.
Hold on, Pam.
That's the Washington Times saying,
Oh boy, is that a whole other... How did the occult feed in?
I mean, did you ever run into the occult when you were investigating these sicko rings overseas?
Yes, we did, but I should say this.
It did not appear to be a causal factor.
We found that these individuals who molest and buy and sell children cross all religious boundaries.
Well, of course, but what I was saying is that
Is that we have run into evidence of this with a cult slash Luciferian.
I wouldn't call it Satanism because I think Lucifer is God.
It's Babylonian type religion in the Western elites in this country and then it has the traffic and children involved.
Ah, I see.
Yes, Pam?
May I speak something directly to Dr. Bannon?
Yeah, go ahead.
Concerning his, I know how he feels the guilt
Thank you, Alex.
And of course, Pam's talking about Dr. Bannon knifing these people.
Thanks, Pam.
Is that normally how you executed them, was with a knife?
Primarily, yes.
My expertise was with bladed weapons and close-quarter combat.
But you say you generally interrogated them before killing them.
Yes, often we did.
Did these scumbags usually fight back, or did they just grovel?
It depended on the individual, and I can say that there are many occasions where, thank God, I was with the team because some of these scumbags were very tough.
We'd like to think of them all being cowards, but they weren't.
There were grovelers as well, however.
My goodness.
All righty.
I'm going to let you go, Doctor, but can you tell us one story of one of these guys that fought back and what you did?
We had talked in the previous hour about an assignment I had in communist Romania, my first assignment, as a matter of fact.
The individual that I was tracking took a day trip off to Castle Dracula in Transylvania, of all places.
He was taking the tour there and left the tour.
I followed him.
He was under surveillance.
And as I followed him, he went into an alley and met a Romanian man where they trotted out a young three-year-old
He was going to purchase the girl and also they began to molest the child.
I ran down the alley furious at what I was witnessing and both individuals were particularly adept at unarmed combat and fought back strenuously.
The physical confrontation that ensued certainly drew attention from the Securitate, which was the Secret Service in Romania.
So you got emotional on your first mission seeing this and kind of ran into it?
Yes, absolutely.
How did you finally take them out?
The one individual I used the butt of the knife to collapse his windpipe, which later I saw had killed him, and the second individual, the one I had been tracking in the first place, I used a kidney strike in his back with the bladed weapon, which generally paralyzes and causes death within minutes.
Well, it's...
It's amazing, and we really appreciate you coming on, and perhaps we can have you back up again in the future to get into some of the other areas of this.
It's obviously a large subject, and just God bless you for coming forward and discussing this.
And I agree with the listeners.
You need to expose these people, the higher-ups.
And everybody needs to pray for you, Dr. Bannon, because if you've already got Interpol coming to you, time to get you to sign that paper.
I think if you sign that paper saying none of this is true, I think you're signing your death warrant.
I do.
Do you agree?
All right.
We appreciate you coming on.
Well, God bless you.
Thank you, Alex.
Take care.
Oh, man, that is hard to talk about.
It is so horrible and scary.
But, you know, it's like the first hour of the show we had the family on out of the New York Post.
We had Angela Lipsman and her father, Daniel Lipsman.
She is now about to be a graduate of a college at 15 with a 3.8.4, and they're going to move with criminal charges against them for not sending her to public school, and they're not going to allow her to have her college degree.
They're threatening the university.
I mean, see, they're evil.
And you heard Dr. Bannon say the CPS workers...
The school teachers, the family court judges, these, and let me tell you something, they're all over the place.
This is where they concentrate.
And I have been to the government meetings, I've debated these people, I've resisted them on subjects where they're trying to destroy parental rights, and you can look at them, as Dr. Bannon was saying, you can look at them and they are bags of pus.
They are inhuman trash.
And they've busted a bunch of them here locally because there are good cops and good police and good FBI.
And they get busted, but it never goes higher than the low level.
So you want to know where they're at?
They're in the courthouse.
They're in the schoolhouse.
They're the truancy officers, the greatest concentration we know of.
I mean, I see articles in the news wires.
And again, we're just scanning news wires, scanning news wires for all stories.
And we come across this type of stuff.
And it's, watch out.
The truancy officers, masses of people running the databases and CPS, as the Miami Herald reported, top convicted pedophiles.
And the government said, hey, they're allowed to run the database.
Talk about the fox guard and the hen house.
And it is terrifying, especially to parents.
It is just to know that they're in the government, they're running things, we're counting on good officers, good people, to blow the whistle to have the courage like Dr. Bannon.
And I'll have to tell you, we'll have to have a debate about this another day.
Is it good to go once you see the evidence of this to execute him without a trial?
I can see how they sell our special forces on killing Taliban and Al-Qaeda.
But see, it turned out they weren't Taliban and Al-Qaeda.
See, it's the same story.
Either they're killing low-level people and protecting the high level, and then all this does is create a cadre that will carry this out who's been compromised.
And his book gets into how then he was compromised.
I'm not going to take any more calls.
Just to give you an idea of the type of stuff I see on the news wires, I want to run through this.
I just want to run through some of what we have here.
New terror message threatens the U.S.
And again, the government's come out and had to admit they put out fake terror alerts to scare us.
A Dubai radio station has broadcast a message attributed to Al-Qaeda terrorist network, that means CIA, threatening to attack U.S.
interests throughout the world.
We're threatening U.S.
troops and all those who support them by intensifying our resistance operations and our jihad and the strike of the American interest in Afghanistan.
And, of course, Dubai is where the CIA met with bin Laden right before 9-1-1.
And the head of Pakistan intelligence who was funding Mohammed Atta and others was at the White House and Congress with the heads of the committees.
U.S.-North Korea drifting towards war.
Perry warns.
Former Defense Secretary says stand up between the risk of terrorists obtaining a device.
He went on to say, quote, I think we're losing control.
We are going to have a nuclear event in this country.
Former Defense Secretary William Perry warned the United States and North Korea are drifting towards war, perhaps as early as this year.
Will Richard Perle, the Deputy Defense Secretary, will policy wonk?
Deputy Defense Secretary is Wolfowitz, but he's basically the acting sub-defendant guy.
I said a few months ago at a White House press dinner, quote, we're going to be attacking North Korea.
Rumsfeld released the documents.
They plan to attack in October.
Now we have three separate plans of how to do it with pinpoint nukes.
And why release that even if they're going to do it?
I mean, that endangers our troops.
I mean, again, I can't defend North Korea, folks, but it's sitting there.
Our government's armed them.
And it's going to have a lot of casualties, folks.
I mean, North Koreans commit suicide when they're captured.
That is guaranteed.
Talk about a brainwashed covey of mind control slaves.
Senate to kill Pentagon surveillance bill.
That is absolutely false.
Disinformation from the Associated Press and Washington Post.
They're funding DARPA in a hundred different programs.
They kill one program and you think it's gone.
I mean, DARPA put hundreds of microphones up in Austin five years ago.
That's in my film Police State 2000.
They put the cameras up.
In fact...
Here's another one.
Pentagon to dig into marketing of data on citizens.
That's the Washington Times saying that, look, they say the TIPS program's over.
They call it talent.
That's all they do to make you think everything's fine.
A Pentagon alters a lifelong project, and the Pentagon had said that everything you do, everything you buy, everything you say will be tracked and traced.
Well, now they say just some of it because you complained.
Got another one here where England, with its three-plus-million surveillance cameras, is going to put in the software that doesn't just face scan or license plate scan and know where you are and what you're doing, all under surveillance at all times.
In violation of the Magna Carta, now they are going to use the stuff that sees if you're walking aggressively, or it's going to scan your brainwaves and see if they're excited.
I'm not kidding.
The police, quote, have probable cause to question you.
This is mainstream news.
I'm going to dig it out.
Here's another one.
This is a Business Wire Digital Angel Corp.
livestock scanner installed at PM's Beef Windham plant.
And the Homeland Security is pressing to make it mandatory to put chips in all cattle, all dogs, all cats.
And again, we have the secret documents now published by the ID Center with Walmart and the Defense Department of a plan for a national control grid to track everything you do with implantable microchips and all products.
That came out two weeks ago, mainstream news.
So we have that for you.
Here's another one.
Study shows kids in daycare are more likely to be aggressive.
They break up the family, make both people work, make it fashionable so you can't raise your own children.
Then they turn into little demons and get vaccinated.
This is out of Channel 5 KSL TV.
Study shows kids in daycare are more likely to be aggressive.
A federal study shows...
The more time young children spend in daycare, the more likely they are to be overly aggressive.
By the time they get into kindergarten, because the aggressive kids will attack them, then they fight back, then you get on Ritalin and Prozac, which is what they want to begin with.
And so that's the bottom.
I mean, everybody already knew this, but the system the government has given us is to destroy society.
Again, you are graduating from college at 15, CPS files criminal charges on your parents.
We have their own federal documents.
Korean Guard exchanged fire.
Soldiers from North Korea and South Korea have exchanged machine gun fire as tensions rise amid efforts to resolve the crisis over Pyongyang's nuclear weapons program.
Again, the globalist announcement that they plan to invade as early as October.
North Korea has got Pyongyang and Kim Jong-il going nuts.
They're trying to push them like a ten-part plan to attack first.
Out of that crisis, you'll get World War III, national draft, total control.
And it goes on...
This is from ABC News.
Report U.S.
may call National Guard for Iraq duty.
More of your family getting shot and killed and Bush does bring it on.
Bureaucrats block spot checks on safety of space shuttle and help that take place.
Salt Lake City Tribune, no kidding.
Smart software linked to CCTV can spot dubious behavior.
This is the new scientist.
They claim it's new.
It's been out for years.
They're announcing they're going to use it on you.
DARPA has had Austin Wired again for five years.
They are powerful microphones.
Some of them even have laser arrays to listen through your windows.
Again, from where I sit, there are three cameras.
And at my other office, there are dozens within five blocks.
We'll be back with this system.
Stay with us.
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I'm going through the news as quickly as possible.
I should have done this in the first hour, but I just had so many amazing guests today.
Smart software linked to CCTV can spot dubious behavior.
Now, every time there's a news article, it's how new it is, how it's just in a few places.
Almost two years ago, in five airports, they put brain scanners in, designed by NASA.
And they, quote, decide if you're guilty.
It could be the dawn of a new era of surveillance.
For the first time, smart software will help CCTV operators spot any abnormal behavior.
The trial due to go live in two London Underground stations this week is a success.
It could accelerate the adoption of the technology around the world, the software which analyzes CCTV footage.
It helps spot suicide attempts, overcrowding.
Again, in suspect packages and trespassers, the hope is that by automating the predictions, it's pre-crime, or detection of such events, security staff, who often have as much as 60 cameras to monitor, simultaneously can reach the scene in time to prevent a potential tragedy.
So, you see, I told you echelon, even with keyword and key stuff, with video and audio and stuff, can't track it all.
They don't have the personnel.
But this is perfect for them because they found with the face-scanning cameras, everybody they went after in Tampa with it was innocent.
Just, oh, you're a criminal, SWAT team runs up, it's the wrong person.
They don't care.
It's not designed to work.
It's just, oh, the camera showed some aggression, or your car was driving erratically, so we got flagged to you, and the mile marker told us where you were at.
There's behavioral oddities.
And it goes, not long ago, similar claims were made of face recognition software, which is still to make it smart, particularly in crime prevention.
But it doesn't matter.
It's still everywhere.
The computer scientist behind IPS is convinced that the software will not suffer a similar fate.
And it sees how you walk.
It scans heat off your brain.
Oh, just the government scanning you with CAT scan cameras as you walk around.
It's the mark of a free society, just bristling, everything being scanned, your heart rate, everything.
It's all part of freedom, folks.
And, of course, I know who you are off the face scan.
Now, it's a giant grid being built by the Pentagon to control you and your family.
Some good news.
Judge declares roadless rule illegal.
Bill Clinton's land grab saying that they can take your private roads away if they border public land are illegal.
But the problem is there's a bunch of loopholes in here.
You can drive Mack trucks through, but that is good news overall.
Just a bunch of other news here that we didn't get to.
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The troops are going to put on the streets of America unarmed ground vehicles that zap you and microwave you or shoot you.
And the police, of course, will be getting them too.
And, of course, they'll need to use them on you.
And it's all part of freedom, ladies and gentlemen.
Before I end this show, I do want to talk about how Black Bear mauled a few people the other day.
So I say ban Black Bears.
They want to ban guns.
An old man out in California drove over and killed six to eight people.
They're not sure yet.
Yesterday, I say ban old folks from driving.
I don't really mean that, but that's the answer to everything in this world now.
Don't punish people individually.
Punish us all.
They're talking about Australia primed to be brought into the United States.
That's from the news of Australia.
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