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Okay, he just got to the phone.
Good to have him joining us.
Jack McClam, police and military against the New World Order.
Had you on many times and done a lot of great work and we'd love to get your in-depth analysis of what's happening right now inside the New World Order.
Thanks for joining us.
Well, it's very interesting you would call me this morning, Alex.
Hope you're doing fine there, brother.
Good to be on with you again.
As you will understand Alex, I'm limited in what I can say because for 20 years we've been putting out our military and police publication and we're fortunate to be connected with some of the higher ups in the military and in law enforcement.
Last night I began to get some calls, coded calls, because we have a way to communicate with some of these people.
That's not on a landline.
There's some things that caused me to start calling our people who have left our eleven Christian constitutional communities up here and gone to other parts of the United States to work and to make money in their professions while they're building their Christian constitutional homes up here in our Christian constitutional communities.
We've put out a call to those that are in far off places to be ready to move out in two or three hours out of where they're located.
Well, that's what I've said.
We've got about two hours.
If there's one smallpox outbreak anywhere in the Western Hemisphere, the government has said in every major publication, all cities will be shut down, mass quarantines, troops rolling in.
And they said last year, if our troops are, quote, tied down in a foreign operation on the war on terror, foreign assets will be used.
I'm sure you've seen the AP reports.
There's been dozens where they say that they will quote, use foreign assets here domestically, and they've signed deals with Mexico and Canada to bring in quote, peacekeepers.
Your analysis on this, of course you're a police officer, retired police officer yourself, a veteran yourself, exactly what's the info you're getting as we move into this final phase of the takeover by the New World Order?
Well, it is time that everybody prepare to leave their homes within two hours
Three hours at the very most or 15 minutes, Alex, if they can do it, they'll be much better off.
But we were just speaking with our people this morning and all throughout the night to be ready because things are to go critical real quick here.
It is the plan of the government to lock the cities as tight as they can so that the people within those cities will not get out.
That's why there's been a major, major work going on for the last 10 years, and specifically within the last year, to put those giant barricades up in the middle of the highways to where people, even in SUVs, can't turn around and get off the highway when they're on there.
Uh, and many other things are being done to be sure that people can't get out of the cities.
Uh, uh, the people may know, being on, listening to your show, you probably already told them that in Arizona and other places in the desert and, uh, uh, they've planted sensors in the desert to where people can't even walk out without being, uh, heard, uh, because of these sensors in the ground.
Yeah, I think so.
And better if it's one hour or two hours, then you're able to leave.
Yes, if they haven't seen Red Dawn, that's the one that is probably
Uh, shows the very scenario in many aspects of what they have to be prepared for.
Uh, so I'm glad you brought that up, but there's a couple other things we need to talk about Alex here, if you don't mind.
And that is from a police officer and a military viewpoint about barricade situation.
If any of your listeners out there, as many of our friends have over the years, been fooled into believing that they can stay at home
And they can barricade their homes in such a fashion with concrete embutments and all kinds of expensive tricks and changes into their home to where they can survive in their home by themselves with their family.
They are mistaken.
They are very mistaken.
Believe me, as a law enforcement officer in a major city for many years, we know when people are trapped in a barricade situation in their own home,
They always lose.
I don't care if they got a year's worth of food or two years worth of food and water stored up in there.
They're going to lose.
You know, the old military thing we were trained with during the Vietnam War is you have to be able to shoot, move, and communicate.
And you can't do that.
You cannot communicate.
You cannot move once they have you trapped like a rat in your own home.
So that is a very bad idea unless there's a local riot.
That's the only thing a barricaded home would be good for if it's a local riot.
We saw that with the Korean and Vietnamese shopkeepers in the LA riots when the police stood back and then it was the shopkeepers on top of their stores that maintained some semblance of order.
Yes, and there's something else too that we've seen in the major cities.
And also, we know will happen because of our military friends and top levels of the military that communicate with us in coded form, I won't say any more than that, communication, is that what they expect is that the military will not have to do most of the work to take out most of the people that have survival goods in their own home.
Because the hordes of people fleeing those areas, or even coming into your areas that you are out of town 20, 30, 40, 50 miles, is that the hordes of people that do get out, and there will be some people outside the gates when the gates close,
They knew that the Bible told them and God told them to help their neighbor.
But today, in a perfect example, those listening to us in the major cities know that your biggest threat, when you take a break and go to the grocery store, is that your neighbor is going to come in and take everything you've got while you're at the grocery store.
So this is not the same society as it was during the Great Depression.
So your biggest threat, and the government knows this, is that if they
Put the fear in the people enough that those that bolt and get outside the perimeters will just absolutely scour the land and take you and your family and destroy what you've got, take in, hopefully not kill you.
But you need to get out to areas, Alex, where there are hundreds of other like-thinking people that can gather together in secure areas way outside the population centers
With hundreds of families, or as many families as you can get, to protect your backside from the hordes of people that will be coming your way to take what you have.
Now Jack, let me stop you for just a second because a lot of people are joining us and they're like, this sounds ridiculous and this is sky is falling stuff.
I'm looking at their own reports, their own statements, and they're going to cause the panic.
If there's a single smallpox outbreak, and now they're saying that this is inevitable, it's going to happen, not a question of if and when, we hope that doesn't happen, but if the globals decide to create this fear wave, they say they already have troops,
And state police pre-deployed in every city to shut down all highways and access roads.
That will create the hysteria.
They say riots will break out within four to ten days.
For sure, ladies and gentlemen, the government will then pose as our saviors, bring troops in to restore order, and then we'll never emerge from that police state scenario.
Right on target, Eric.
Alex, right on target.
That's exactly what they're going to do and it's all planned and it's on purpose.
They know that they don't need to have a lot of numbers in military in here.
Of course, they're sending all of our military and even many of our police officers out of the country as fast as they can right now.
And they've said if they're tied down fighting a war on terror, foreign assets will be used.
But see, they don't need many troops in these large population centers because they're going to allow the riots to go on for days and days and weeks until the good people are just dispatched by the mad, angry, non-Christian rioters out there, as we saw on our own television during the L.A.
Where the police were told to stand down.
The police will stand down.
Many of our good brothers and sisters know this and they don't want to stand down.
But if they get out there by themselves trying to uphold their oath and do their duty, they're gone.
Jack, have you seen my film, The Takeover?
I have not Alex, no.
Have you seen Police State 2000?
Well I need to send you the takeover because the first 30 minutes is the local newscast, news articles, interviews with police in Seattle.
Yes I have.
And they've got detectives saying we were ordered to let them loot, to let them burn, and then we don't know why they housed the 50 looters and anarchists.
Well it turned out they were working for the White House.
This is confirmed Seattle newspapers video.
So they're going to have, they already have pre-deployed folks, just like the communist model, who create mayhem, don't they?
That's right, and we found out, we had some very good police officer friends of mine, who had been getting our police and military publication for a number of years, right there in the LA riots that told us the same thing.
The mayor, of course, was a Marxist, and it was all set up, the riots were all set up on purpose,
And our LA and Sheriff's Department superiors told us here at Aid in the Bed, and actually we put a section in Vampire Killer 2000 on that from one of our detective friends, where he said that this was all set up to test to see if the American people, after the riots broke out and the law enforcement stood down,
How many hours it would take for the American people in L.A.
to beg for martial law and military troops?
And it was two hours where the American people started begging for martial law.
And then about a year after that at Evian, France, Henry Kissinger gave a speech where he said, we will create these crises and the people will beg for U.N.
That's correct, brother.
That's right, brother.
It's been going on a long time, this plan.
I've watched it for 22 years and written about it for 22 years, and Alex, you have been doing a masterful job for many years at informing the people that do have ears to hear and eyes to see.
It's just a shame that so many of our people, even in our own families,
I think so.
By the way, BBC two days ago, they have flying drones with microwave guns that can zap whole cities and they're going to deploy them.
Yes, in other words, folks, what Alex is saying is that if you don't have an old vehicle that does not have electronics in it and can run even if they have an EMP strike,
Your vehicles will not go.
They will not go down the road and that's part of the plan.
So you better think about getting ready because your relatives and your neighbors think you're nuts.
Some of you will listen and you'll read your Bible and the Bible tells you about things that are coming.
And you will know what's going to happen and be prepared.
Jack McClam, we've got a break.
Thank you for joining us.
Stay right there.
We'll be right back with Jack McClam.
By the way, in my film, Police Day 2000, we have the Marines training with foreign troops to take our guns, emitting it on tape, and they brag.
We've got sound wave rifles and knockdown rioters.
They're deploying the Humvees with the microwave guns.
This has been going on for decades.
The big setup for this.
We hope they don't pull it, but it looks like they might do it.
We'll be back.
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Welcome back, we're talking to Jack McClann.
This is very serious information.
He is the founder of Aid in the Bat newsletter for 22 years, police and military against the New World Order.
And Jack, I get those same military calls you get.
I mean, I've talked to former generals, admirals, colonels in the military.
They're very upset.
The Washington Times reported the morale the lowest it's ever been at the Pentagon because folks are starting to find out what this is really all about.
This is the takeover.
And do you think they've got the nerve to institute this because we've been out there now exposing them
I don't... Our assessment here at our Police and Military Association
is that we do not at this time.
The vast majority of the American people still proclaim to be Christians, and as you know, because of the Rapture Doctrine that started in 1835, right around there, and also the misinterpretations of Romans 13, where Christians are told that they have to obey everything evil government tells them to do, because all evil governments of God
We're good to go.
We're good to go.
Forty-five million, isn't it, children have been killed?
I think it's about fifty million now.
Fifty million now?
Well, James Madison, the Constitution doesn't work because John Adams said our Constitution was made only for religious and moral people, totally inadequate for the government of any other.
I think James Madison it was that says we stake the whole future of American civilization, not upon the power of government, far from it.
We stake the future upon the capacity for each and all of us to govern ourselves,
Uh, by the Ten Commandments of God.
Now, we're no longer doing that, and if you read in the Scriptures, 2 Chronicles 7, 14, you know America is coming down because God's people fail to qualify under 2 Chronicles 7, 14 today.
So brother, if God is bringing this nation down, there's nothing you and I can do to stop it, but we must prepare to get out of those areas
In which God is going to speak to it that the people are punished in just a colossal way before he returns.
What would you say to the FBI and military people and others driving around in their cars listening to this show?
They know we've been telling the truth all along, calling it precisely because we know the globalist playbook.
What would you say to them?
What's your advice to them, Jack McClam?
Are brothers and sisters in uniform, you say?
Well, we've said this.
It is our duty to do our duty.
And if you read your oath, the best thing they could do is take out their oath and read their oath of allegiance and realize that they have a higher duty than this commander-in-chief.
And law enforcement out there, you have a higher duty than to the Supreme, those men and women running around in black dresses.
There is a higher authority.
And it's spelled out right in your Oath of Allegiance, and you better stick by that.
To protect, defend... The Constitution of the United States, the people, their rights and their liberties and property.
And that is their whole duty, and we keep telling our brothers and sisters in uniform that duty is ours, consequences are God's.
We just have to be in the field doing our duty.
Jack McClam, stay with us about 15 more minutes.
I want to tell folks how to get your finance letter and get in touch with you.
We'll also take some calls.
We want to talk to Jack McClam.
Second hour coming up in 70 seconds.
You want answers?
Well, so does he.
He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.
We've got Jack McClam with us for about 15 more minutes.
We've only got time to take a few calls.
If you'd like to get involved and talk to Jack McClam, 1-800-259-9231 on this live Wednesday edition.
I'm Alex Jones, your host, and we've got Tex Marge coming up a little bit later in the hour.
Professor Tex Marge, you don't want to miss that.
In the next segment, I'm going to air this little clip of Gary Hart at a CFR meeting on C-SPAN saying, we need to use 9-1-1 attacks, use the disaster, to get the New World Order.
Jack McClam, what is the New World Order?
You know, now we see more and more people admitting we're in a world government, whereas they would still deny it just a few years ago.
What is the New World Order?
Well, basically, it's every
Yes, we're good to go.
It will be the takeover of the political, the monetary, the intellectual, and the ecclesiastical into one world.
One world government.
And of course we know today very well that the political in America is actually one party.
Two socialist arms of one party, the Republican Socialist Party and Democratic Socialist Party.
And we know the monetary system has been taken over.
We know the intellectual, the school and educational systems have been taken over.
But what we fail to understand in America today is that the ecclesiastical has been taken over too.
And these are all going to go together as one head in this world government rule under the United Nations.
Of course, the United Nations, these clowns, these world dictators, these third world nation dictators are not running the world under the UN.
It is the internationalists that control the United Nations that control the central banks.
Listen to this clip.
This is George Bush saying, don't talk about conspiracy theories involving 9-1-1, and then Gary Hart.
Let us never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories concerning the attacks of September the 11th.
Malicious lies that attempt to shift the blame away from the terrorists themselves, away from the guilty.
There is a chance for the President of the United States to use this disaster to carry out what his father, a phrase his father used I think only once, and hasn't been used since, and that is a New World Order.
Well, they use that term all the time, and what does that mean when Gary Hart is out fear-mongering again, saying we will be hit by smallpox?
What does that mean?
Well, he's exposing more than probably what they want him to expose, because he is telling us exactly what's going to happen.
They're going to use the Hegelian dialectic, and that is creating a problem on purpose
And this global government controls all the different political parties.
I mean, you look at George Bush, Jack.
His entire agenda is Bill Clinton on steroids.
But these phony conservative hosts tell us how good and conservative Bush is.
Well, all they have to do is go back to 1992, where George Bush Sr.
was standing in the UN building and made the absolutely treasonous statement
That it is the sacred principles enshrined in the UN Charter to which we will henceforth pledge our allegiance, February 1st, 1992.
That was absolute treason by a president, and he meant it, and that's exactly what's happening.
We're going to worship the United Nations system, or you will not live!
Jack McClam, stay right there.
We'll come back with our final segment with you.
I'm Alex Jones, and we'll try to get some of your calls in here at 800-259-9231.
But we're just talking to Jack McClam right now.
And we got Tex-Mars coming up.
Don't forget my website, InfoWars.com.
From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.
It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
Alright, I got loaded phones here in just a few minutes left with Jack McClam, founder of Police and Military Against the New World Order.
Jack, if folks want to get your newsletter or want to get a copy of it, how do they do that?
Here, we're coming down to a critical time.
In America, I mean, very critical, and there's no one that shows that and tells it better than you and points that out to people.
But I would ask the people to call my number here.
If they do not have a plan where to go, do not be alone when these days come.
You may have hours or weeks or months to prepare, but call us here at our Police and Military Association.
Ask to speak to me about a plan, what you should do if you don't have a plan.
And call us here at 208-935-7852.
And then secondly, get our publications into the hands of law enforcement and military as fast as you can.
Even hard-headed relatives are a good idea to give them our police and military publication.
They've got to know what's coming, and they may laugh at it now, but when they see it actually happen, they'll remember.
Tell folks how they get that.
Okay, they write to us here in our headquarters, World Headquarters, in Idaho County, Idaho, and that's that Aid and Abet Police Military Newsletter.
Aid and Abet Police Military Newsletter.
Or they just put Jack McClamb on there, it'll get here.
And that's at, uh, HC.
That's like Henry Charles 11, Box 357, like the Magnum gun.
And that's Kamii K-A-M-I-A-H, Idaho, 83536.
Once again, Aidan Abetz Police Military Newsletter, HC, 11, Box 357, Kamii K-A-M-I-A-H,
Alright, let's... Send us $3 donation so we can reprint.
We're all volunteers here, Alex.
We need to pay postage and all, so send us $3 donation.
We'll send you out the latest copy of Aid in a Bit that has four letters in here from military people, active military people, about how they feel about us destroying nations and going to war with nations today that haven't done anything to America.
To build a world government, let's take as many calls as we can.
Let's do a quick question or comment.
Warren in Colorado.
Go ahead, you're on the air.
What about people that live way out in the country?
We live out in the country in Colorado, and when things do go to lockdown, what's the police, what's their role going to be for people who live out in the country that do own guns?
In our pretty kind of, uh, aggressive part.
Well, there'll be hysteria first.
They'll allow the breakdown.
They'll bring in the foreign assets along with our troops and the troops that took the test that said they'd fire on us.
They're staying here.
Then, a few months into it, they'll start fanning out, going after the guns.
But there'll already be physical resistance at that time.
They'll probably be barricaded in their own armored strongholds in the major city and it's going to be a long-term siege operation against the American people.
Jack, do you agree with that analysis?
Yes, pretty much, but I'd like to have this brother call me, because those that think they're going to be out in the boonies by themselves, it's a very, very bad plan.
As we said at the beginning of the program, the government's plan is to allow those that escape when the gates close on the population centers to go out and just ravage those that are by themselves with their families in the outback, because they're going to be coming your way by the thousands, those that escape,
And they're going to clean you out, and so it's a very bad plan.
Give me a call.
Well, you should be in a community with folks that you know and can trust.
So get some friends quick.
Hundreds of people that can be your backup, and they can provide such a force that these ravaging crowds will not even come near the area.
So give me a call.
Thank you for the call, Warren.
Michael in Washington State.
Go ahead, Michael.
You're on the air.
I noticed that on the other day,
Our president, Boyd George Bush, didn't take his oath of affirmation to protect the country from enemies, foreign and domestic.
And I was thinking about your guest, and I was thinking what police officers, if they're listening, they have to be outraged because if you don't take your oath of office, you're a fraud.
What are you talking about?
Bush took an oath of office in front of millions of people on television.
But he did not mention, I promise to protect
The country from enemies born in domestic.
That part was omitted from his oath.
Oh, I'd like to see that.
I heard it on the Power Hour yesterday morning.
They played it.
A guy called in and played it.
Wow, I'd like somebody to send me a copy of that.
Jack, any comments to what he just said?
No, I wasn't aware of that either.
That was me.
I hope that you'd send me a copy of it, too.
It was totally omitted from his speech, and he said, so help me God, and that's not even part of the oath of office.
So help me God.
Well, he added that and took it out.
So he's writing his own oath.
But these police officers out there, if they don't take an oath of office, they're a fraud.
If they do, under their own designations, they're terrorists.
They have to be outraged at that.
By that, he's talking about the FBI training manuals where it says, Defenders of the U.S.
Constitution against the U.N.
Thank you, Michael.
The FBI brochure.
Alex, let me say to our brothers and sisters in uniform real quick, I'm a Vietnam War veteran,
And I've been in law enforcement many, many years, and I just want to say to our brothers and sisters listening, H.L.
Mencken said it best when he said, to die for an idea is unquestionably noble, but how much more noble it would be if men died for ideas that were true.
I'm asking you, brothers and sisters in uniform, don't die for lies and fraud put upon you by these globalists in office.
There's truth out there, and you can get it from Alex Jones, to all his tapes and videos and so forth, or you can get it by contacting your own brothers and sisters in uniform up here at Aidan Abbott Police Military Newsletter.
Alright, let's, one or two more calls and we've got another guest coming on.
Chris in California, quickly, you're on the air with Jack McClam.
Yes, thanks Alex.
I'm a former sergeant in the Marine Corps, and I used to work out at the Urban Training Center.
And what they did, not only did they have foreign
Like you've said before, foreign troops training with them and FBI.
Training to take our guns!
I have them on tape.
Well, I don't know.
I never saw that part, but uh... How many years ago was this?
Uh, the police.
How many years ago was this?
Oh, very recently.
Okay, well I've got... Have you seen Police Day 2000?
No, I haven't.
Well, I've got footage of them admitting it's for domestic.
But, uh, they also... Getting... The Marines getting full riot gear.
Which is very interesting.
And they do this training about monthly.
You riot training against other Marines who pretend, you know, they're the rioters and they basically beat them down and everything.
It's good training, but the worry part for me is, why would Marines...
You need to know that kind of riot control for a foreign war.
No, look, it's admitted.
They're saying, get rid of Posse Comitatus.
They've said it's for domestic action.
Jack, comments to what Chris just said.
Yes, we have just literally hundreds of brothers and sisters in uniform contacting us today and telling us the training they're undergoing.
They're being specific.
It's for internal riot control in this nation today.
So, I mean, there you have it, Chris.
No, that's it.
Well, I appreciate your call.
God bless you for being a concern.
One last call for Jack McClam.
Scott in Florida.
You're on the air.
Go ahead, Scott.
You're on the air.
Maybe Scott isn't there anymore.
Alright, we lost Scott.
I can't go to anybody else.
Jack McClam, thank you for joining us, and I hope to get you back up in the future, and I hope we can expose the globalist terrorist paradigms.
We can back them off and have time to wake up more folks and get a reprieve on this, but you may be right.
It may be inevitable, as Gary Hart says, and I appreciate you joining us.
Okay, brother, and listen, thanks so much for what you're doing for our country.