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It is classically liberal and I believe it is also actually liberal and it is a perfect match for what I find my many conservative friends believe as well.
That this is the metric that we can use to test any system that we put in place.
Does it liberate people or does it constrain them?
If it liberates them meaningfully over the long term, It's a good thing.
What they have recognized is that they have no use for us, and I wish that was an exaggeration, but you can see this so clearly in what they did to the public over COVID.
I don't think we really have any choice but to rescue Western civilization.
It is the best tool we've got, always has been.
It's not to say that it can't use upgrading here and there, but We have to save it because your children, my children, and all of the grandchildren that we might ultimately have are depending on us to do it.
And the idea of hyper-novelty is that although human beings are the fastest evolving animal species that has ever existed, and that is largely the result of the fact that we evolve in a different way, we are actually able to evolve culturally, which is much more rapid than genetic evolution.
But even though we are the fastest evolving animal species that has existed, The rate of technological change is so fast that even our evolutionary capacity... We can't catch up.
We cannot keep up, and that is resulting in us being sick, physically, psychologically, socially, and what you're detecting as the collapse of civilization is really a manifestation of many different kinds of hyper-novelty that is making it difficult for us to see what's in our interest.
They are gambling with A planet that isn't theirs to destroy, that is actually, it is the birthright of every living person and it is the entitlement of all the people who will eventually live here.
They are gambling with it and they obviously don't know what they're doing.
It is likely that many of the deaths that occur as a result of these shots It's the result of the mRNA platform itself.
that anything you loaded onto that platform would produce many of these pathologies,
Former professor Brett Weinstein is in studio with us for an in-depth interview.
We're taping this on Sunday while everybody else is watching the Super Bowl.
I'm really excited about this interview.
I've been trying to get him on the show for a couple of years.
He's a very busy guy.
He was just in town for the Joe Rogan number one podcast in the world, which I'm sure will have already aired by the time this interview goes out.
But I just want to point out, I love football.
It's great.
But our society is in so much trouble because of all the bread and circuses that people make their main focus sports and entertainment.
That'd be fine if society and civilization wasn't in such a crisis.
So I'm honored that he would spend Super Bowl Sunday that's a religion to so many, including my family that's all watching it right now and wondering why I'm not there.
Well, it's because this, quite frankly, is way more important.
A game comes, a game goes.
But this affects the entire future of our species on this planet that has never been in greater crisis in my view.
And when I first learned about the doctor and former professor at Evergreen University in 2017, he was standing up against really horrible racism against white people, saying they couldn't be on campus on certain days.
I just want to remind folks of where we really started seeing this guy explode out there, and since then he's obviously been everywhere.
One of the top guests on Joe Rogan has his own hit podcast as well that everybody should search out.
It's the Dark Horse Podcast.
We'll put all that on screen for folks, darkhorse.locals.com and also on Rumble.
And it's a show that I routinely watch because I do a lot of research, but I I certainly don't know a lot of what's going on in the world.
It was a famous Greek philosopher said, I know nothing.
Anybody that tells you that they know everything is either a fool or a liar.
The more you learn, the more you don't know.
But I learned a lot from Dr. Brett Weinstein, and it's great to have him here with us.
Now, I've literally got dozens of topics I want to hit.
Everybody knows half the time I do an interview, it's me doing half the talking.
I really want to give you, doctor, a chance to start wherever you want.
to cover the borders. You were just out at the Darien Gap with investigative journalist
and war correspondent Michael Yon. You just did an amazing podcast with Tucker Carlson.
I watched the whole thing once and then watched the clips again. We played them on the show.
You really nailed what's happening. And we were just talking before we started taping.
You said, "Listen, we have to save Western civilization."
We're in a crisis.
We've got to transcend these labels of left and right.
I totally agree with you.
So we're going to cover the waterfront here today.
And I really appreciate you taking the time to make yourself available.
I'm really glad to be here and to meet you, finally.
I've long been a fan of yours, if a bit cryptically.
And in fact, maybe that is a place to start.
Many years ago, I guess it would have been something like 2011, I was part of the Occupy Movement.
And although the Occupy Movement got ridiculous quickly, And I wish I had realized where it was headed earlier.
I was paying attention actually to your coverage of it and something that impressed and surprised me was that as the Occupy movement was being targeted by the federal government, you covered that targeting and you were incensed by it.
And I was heartened to see you defending people who obviously ideologically were not closely aligned Uh, with you, and I felt, I felt at the time, and I feel even more strongly now, that you're a patriot, and I really appreciate that you see, uh, all Americans as worth defending.
Well, thank you, but look, if, if I don't defend everybody, I'm not going to get defended.
It was that famous, you know, quote by the pastor in Nazi Germany that he didn't stand up for this group when they came after him, then he'd stand up for that group, and finally, when they came for him, there was nobody left to stand up for him.
I exactly agree with this, and I think that really is the team that needs to assemble.
All of the patriots who respect the principles on which the U.S.
was founded, and indeed the Western civilization is founded, need to put aside ideological differences so that we can fend off what threatens Western civilization.
And at the point that we've succeeded in doing that, we can go back to fighting over ideological issues.
Now, I didn't really go into your bio, and most people know who you are and they know a lot about you, but maybe we should just real quick talk about your background, what you've done, your best-selling book, The Hunter-Gatherer's Guide, The 21st Century, and then kind of your political process and what you would call yourself today, and then let's talk about that big attack on Western civilization and then launch into wherever you want to go.
I studied bats as part of my dissertation work, but that work led me quickly to the study of biological trade-offs.
That is to say, Oftentimes anybody who's managed a system knows that you can't have everything.
You have to borrow from one thing in order to accomplish something else.
And it turns out that that's the way biology functions too.
So anyway, that became my focus and it has an important implication to this day in terms of how I see civilization and other complex systems functioning.
I taught for 14 years at the Evergreen State College, which was a very strange place.
It was the most liberal college in the country, I believe, by almost any measure.
And there was a lot to it that was crazy, but there was also a lot to it that was quite brilliant.
The founders of the college had thrown out every single structure that would exist in a normal college or university and replaced it with something else.
And half of what they built didn't really work, but half of it actually allowed for professors who were very serious about teaching to innovate entirely new ways of doing that.
We had total freedom to teach anything we wanted in any way we wanted.
Students took one class at a time, full-time.
Professors taught one class at a time, full-time.
And that meant that we knew every student, not just by name, but we knew who they were and how they thought.
And that allowed us to teach right to each individual, which is a very powerful way of doing it.
That strong connection with students is why When I was confronted May 23rd of 2017 by 50 students that I had never met accusing me of racism, I wasn't concerned.
There were too many people who knew that that accusation had no reality to it.
And so I knew it wasn't going to stick.
So that allowed me to stand up to them.
And the protesters who came after me made the mistake of proudly filming everything they did.
And when they released that footage to the internet, people looked at me being confronted by students who weren't willing to even have a conversation with me and they knew something was wrong in this uh... diversity equity and inclusion
i think it it was in every way except that the students who were confronting
me i don't think you very much about now but and every other way yes
did go in search So, anyway, I was teaching evolutionary biology.
The college had hired a new president who was interested in remaking the college according to very different rules.
But he had a problem, because at Evergreen, the faculty had the power to stop him.
And so he Effectively used racism to eliminate his opponents and I became public enemy number one not because there was anything wrong with my teaching but because I was going to be an obstacle to his plans and that resulted in the dramatic
Dialectic means you are using disagreement to discover what is true.
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I am not interested in debate.
I am interested only in dialectic, which does mean I listen to you and you listen to me.
You don't care what terms you want to speak on.
This is not about you.
We are not speaking on terms of white privilege.
This is not a discussion.
You have lost that one.
I am talking about terms that serve the truth.
Those are the top five.
Can I tell you where it's from?
House of Donna Lickner, you said some racist sh*t. Can you apologize?
I did not.
Do I think that black students in sciences are targeted here?
There were elements of what happened at Evergreen that were new, but of course most of it was just a refresh of historical chapters.
And, you know, it was about something else.
Race became an excuse for a battle that was desired by powerful forces that weren't interested in sharing their plan with the faculty, students, or anybody else.
It seemed like Evergreen wetted the mouth too, or the taste buds, because then it seemed to be like the bellwether and then it spread across academia everywhere and was defended by the media.
Now here we are, six, seven years later, now everybody who's got to have a brain, the vast majority say, no, academia, major colleges have turned into nut houses.
They were already, and indeed that wasn't new either.
When Heather, my wife, also a biologist, also actually she was Evergreen's most popular professor, but when we were in college ourselves, we faced the first iteration of what would later go on to be called diversity, equity, and inclusion.
At the time it was political correctness.
And it had taken over anthropology.
And when Heather and I took an anthropology course, we found an evolutionary perspective unwelcome.
And so we fought back against that.
I actually failed the course because the professor was not interested in having any pushback.
But in any case, this has been going on for decades.
And it finally completely took over the universities and has left them In a state that's actually totally upside down.
I mean, it used to be that universities made students smarter.
Now they're actually making them fools.
They're teaching them things that just simply aren't true and enforcing their acceptance of those things.
I mean, this is just so biologically nonsensical that you would imagine every university in the country would have a group of biologists saying, I don't know how you reached that conclusion, but it just isn't right.
And yet, one struggles to find any university in which anybody is standing up against such claims.
And that's really because the ones who would stand up have been forced out.
There's a feature of complex systems that I think people don't really appreciate.
There are many systems that are incredibly powerful, like Western civilization, but they are also in their own way fragile.
The fact is, certain conditions have to be present in order for Western civilization to function.
The consent of the governed being key among them.
We have to be able to throw people out when they don't do the job correctly.
And to the extent that That control of the citizenry over governance is considered threatening by people who wish to use governance for their own objectives.
They subvert democracy and they leave us with something in which, yes, elections take place, but our ability to control in which direction policy moves is ever less obvious.
So that's where we are.
We've got a system with no rudder or if there is a rudder it's under the control of something that we can't see headed in some direction we don't know.
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The insanity that's been incubating or chastening inside of the colleges and funded by the big corporations, I guess is a mode of control, has spilt out.
The FAA is going to try to put schizophrenics flying jumbo jets and they're literally going to hire mentally handicapped people.
When I first saw that news a few months ago, I didn't believe it.
I went and looked it up.
Now they have What do you think are some of the key points that we need to remember as we embark on this challenge going forward?
make everybody uncomfortable but we're not gonna go for who the best pilots are
and you're watching this just thinking I don't care if they're black or white or
older young or gay or straight or male or female but you better damn well pass
the highest test scores.
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What do you think are some of the key points that we need to remember as we embark on this challenge going forward?
Your whole program is very heavily male dominated. It just is.
And really it is white male dominated.
I mean, let's just say what it is.
And so let's be willing.
That is today what it is.
And then let's talk about what could the future look like if you really had this program that was representative of the whole country, right, of the whole world.
And sometimes those are challenging or difficult, or I would say people get a little bit uncomfortable
talking about that and like, hey, we're not gonna make change
unless we get a little bit uncomfortable.
And let's be uncomfortable together and let's do the right things
Well, when I was driven out of Evergreen in the early days after that,
I was asked to speak in numerous places about the free speech crisis on college campuses.
And at some point, I ended up testifying to Congress on this, and I told them the same thing I had said each other time I'd been asked, which is, it's not a free speech crisis, and it's not about college campuses.
That's simply the first place you're seeing it.
This is somehow an attack on Western civilization and the wrong-headed ideas that are alarming when you see them in a classroom become dangerous when they migrate out into civilization and they take over engineering firms, they take over literally everything because almost all of the important jobs in civilization are done by people who passed through these colleges and were ideologically captured as they went through.
There is no question That those wrong-headed ideas are going to destroy everything that functions if we don't get our wits about us quickly.
And even then...
Even then, you're talking about a problem that is going to take a couple of generations to correct.
Even if we started doing everything right today, we have to clear the people who are so confused about the way mathematics and biology work, and we have to put people in important positions who know what's going on.
But given the complete collapse of the university system, there isn't an obvious source for those clear-headed people.
And Doctor, that's one kind of level I'd say down at the grassroots, 1,000-foot level, 500-foot level, 100-foot level.
But I saw you on Tucker Carlson's podcast, I think he went further, I've never seen you, saying, no, this is very dark, this is very planned.
If you go up to the million-foot level and look down, And you listen to Klaus Schwab and the globalists, they say, we're building a post-industrial world.
We have to have an angrier world to blow it up.
And we're going to do this for depopulation.
And then somehow they're going to try to like secret away the knowledge in some Alexandrian vault and then roll it out later.
And I'm a lay historian, just a common sense guy that researches and I've talked to a lot
of other experts in every field, military, finance, you name it.
They say no.
If they keep cutting off fertilizer and food and if they continue to be stabilizing Western
countries and collapse those, the war games go from horrible to Armageddon into the world.
So I mean we're talking about cataclysms and then you've got all these big billionaires
like Zuckerberg and others building huge underground bunkers and then all the locals built it and
hate them and say as soon as things go to hell, and I'm literally in Hawaii.
and ran into the main contractor and then the workers and all of them saying we're going to
go get that son of a bitch. And they're telling me this and I'm like, you know, I'm a, can I say
that? Well, don't say our names. And I'm just sitting there watching them building this Bastille
that's about to be raided in a new French revolution. And these globalists think everything
stolen all the wealth, consolidated power created a oligarchical fascist, you know, system with their
computers and their flash trading and you know, this vertical integration and they're going to
use some leftist ideology, try to control people when what they're doing is just scientific.
Insanity, scientific consolidation for the consolidation, and then they think their plan of imploding civilization, that somehow they're not going to have blowback from that?
They are going, and again, they thought they could do all this and never be the target.
They thought we would all kill each other, but now that we've identified the globalists, and most thinking people now know about them, and there's a huge mass accelerated awakening happening that no one can deny, they should know your plan would never have worked before.
One chance out of a thousand in my view.
Now there's no way it works, but as you said, if we tried to put the brakes on this and the globalists and the elites suddenly realized how insane they were, it'll take generations to turn it around.
They've already set in motion a countdown to doomsday.
I mean, I don't, I've got four children.
I want to fix this, but I am mightily freaked out.
My impression is that they are clever enough to wreck the systems that work, and they are far from clever enough to rebuild something in their wake.
So yeah, I think they are heading us for disaster.
And that they are going to discover how much hubris has been driving them when it's too late for them.
But I don't think we really have any choice but to rescue Western civilization.
It is the best tool we've got, always has been.
It's not to say that it can't use upgrading here and there, but we have to save it because your children, my children, and all of the grandchildren that we might ultimately have are depending on us to do it.
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In fact, I'm going to shut up now.
So let's just go.
Where do you want to go?
Darien Gap, The Collapse of the Borders, The Great Microcosm, The Wars, Tucker Carlson and Putin.
I mean, there's just, go wherever you want, Doctor.
Well, let's cover something you asked up front, which is how do I see myself politically?
Because I think this is going to be an important potential sticking point for your audience, and it shouldn't be.
So, let's say the worst part up front, which is that I regard myself not just as a liberal, but as a radical.
Now, I describe myself as a reluctant radical because I've studied complex systems and I know that any attempt to improve things invites the danger of unintended consequences.
This is the problem for liberal thought, is that when you try to fix things, you create phenomena you don't see coming.
So I'm aware of that and I would not be enthusiastic about changing a system that works if I didn't think that we had to do it.
That the system that we have built is not capable of managing the scale of the processes that we are utilizing today.
So we have no choice but to change.
But we should be very careful about the unintended consequences.
We should go in with our eyes open and we should monitor the consequences of what we're doing so that we know when we're making an error and we can stop as quickly as possible.
You're not trying to fix problems with the old system.
You're saying it's colliding with all these great new changes in automation, robotics, and super computing, and quantum computing, and all the rest of it.
So, we have to be honest.
And instead, Klaus Schwab and those guys literally go, it's magic!
Once the AI is in control, we'll fix it, but we've got to bulldoze everything that was already there, because we're going to imagine this big beautiful palace we're going to build, and then it's creating a perfect storm, like a black hole of destruction.
It is classically liberal and I believe it is also actually liberal and it is a perfect match for what I find my many conservative friends believe as well.
That this is the metric that we can use to test any system that we put in place.
Does it liberate people or does it constrain them?
If it liberates them meaningfully over the long term, it's a good thing.
And I do mean meaningfully.
I'm not talking about people being liberated to frivolously engage nonsense.
I'm talking about people who actually have enough power over their lives that they can pursue meaning or beauty and compassion.
Only because I've read the writings of the think tanks, the Gates Funds, and the UN, the people that are running it, and Klaus Schwab, the Club of Rome.
They just say humans are done.
There's too many of them.
When you get a bunch of freedom, you become decadent trash.
We want to bring feudalism back for whoever we let live, and then we're going to sit up here like Mount Olympus and direct... I mean, it's the Hunger Games, but in the real world.
And so that's why they want to destabilize the human system so that we're so...
Inept that we've got to have machines come in to basically run our lives as a process of them phasing out the human
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plan would never work in my view And it's incredibly risky plus billions of people aren't
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I think that fake news have been with us for thousands of years.
Just think of the Bible.
You know, the whole idea that humans have, you know, they have this soul or spirit and they have free will and nobody knows what's happening inside me.
So whatever I choose, whether in the election or whether in the supermarket, this is my free will.
When you were on Tucker, you explained, you said, listen, there's not words to describe, I'm paraphrasing, how dark this is.
The open borders, the devaluation of currencies, the destabilization.
When you look at it, there is organization by the administrators, as you said.
It's easy to dynamite and destroy things when you're the administrator and have all this BlackRock money, but notice they can't ever actually build anything.
So they're sitting there going, look what a great artist I am, smashing things, and then society looks like a Jackson Pollock, but how are they ever going to paint a Rembrandt?
What they have recognized is that they have no use for us.
And I wish that was an exaggeration, but you can see this so clearly in what they did to the public over COVID.
They were unconcerned about delivering novel, they're not vaccines, but novel so-called vaccines into people who stood no chance for benefiting from them.
Healthy young people, there was never an argument that made any sense for delivering those shots to healthy young people.
About the best you could say was that you might do that in order to protect vulnerable, infirm people?
That's not something a rational civilization would do, but at least that's a logical argument.
But at the point that we discovered that these things did not in any way control the disease,
they didn't control people contracting it, they didn't control people transmitting it,
the logic for inflicting them on healthy young people who were not threatened by COVID and
stood to gain nothing evaporated.
And yet we're doing it to this day.
Harvard apparently just re-initiated their policy of requiring those shots for their own students.
So what that's telling you is that Whatever is driving doesn't care that it is going to kill people who have long potentially important contribute long lives of potentially important contributions to make.
That's that's powerfully said and Well, I've got a hundred angles I want to go with, but Dr., where should we go next?
People can find all your work at darkhorse.locals.com.
They can also find you at Dark Horse on Rumble.
They can find your book, which was amazing right years ago, The Hunter-Gatherer's Guide to the 21st Century from a former professor at Evergreen State College.
Where should we go next?
Because, I mean, I'm happy to direct this.
You want to get into Tucker and Russia and the war, the borders, what's going to happen with the election, Biden?
The central concept of that book, and in fact, it would also have been a good title, is Hyper-Novelty.
And the idea of hyper-novelty is that although human beings are the fastest evolving animal species that has ever existed, and that is largely the result of the fact that we evolve in a different way, we are actually able to evolve culturally, which is much more rapid than genetic evolution.
But even though we are the fastest evolving animal species that has existed, The rate of technological change is so fast that even our evolutionary capacity... We can't catch up.
We cannot keep up.
And that is resulting in us being sick, physically, psychologically, socially.
And what you're detecting as the collapse of civilization is really a manifestation of many different kinds of hyper-novelty that is making it difficult for us to see what's in our interest, to figure out what to put in our mouths.
To figure out what we should think about various issues.
We are we are like a fish out of water That that's the analogy I use or also even our best men and women trying to go to Mars They're going to lose a lot of their muscle mass, heart mass.
They're going to have serious health problems.
Once they get there, they're going to be very lucky that it has a lower gravity because they're going to be a lot weaker.
And so what we're all going through is such a change.
Whether people believe in classical evolution or not, it's clear humans are evolving.
We do control our environment.
Any other animal out there, we're able to do amazing things.
But with something this accelerated, we can't do it.
But I read a lot of globalist writings.
They're very nihilistic.
They sit back and say, screw it.
It won't matter if billions die on this evolution.
Some humans will accelerate evolution.
We'll get the uber mention out of this battle of the gods, good or dama wrong.
And I'm like, boy, I heard this from Hitler before.
Yes, and in fact I heard you recently talking about the fact that there are more than 400 civilian nuclear reactors on planet Earth.
What people may or may not realize is that those reactors require constant vigilance to keep them from melting down.
Their design requires that heat be removed from them constantly.
And so a civilizational breakdown threatens to take all of the material in these reactors and expel it into the world.
Somehow, I don't think the people who are recklessly steering us into such danger have considered the fact that they are living on a planet that is rigged so that they need people to maintain the integrity of those reactors, even for them to have a planet worth living on.
It looks purely reckless to me, and I don't think that there is a super clever secret plan that we are not in on.
I think they think there is, but I think they're wrong that it actually makes sense.
I mean, I know folks that have gone to Davos and been around behind the scenes.
I'll leave it at that.
It's literally prostitutes, drugs.
They're delusional.
They think they're all powerful, they believe this, and they have no plan, even 30 years from now, to have robots running these reactors.
And it's crazy, if you look at the designs of these General Electric systems and others, they'll use outside power to then run the cooling and dump it into a cooling pond
instead of the reactor's own power to run the system to use it in the cooling pond.
And I'm not a nuclear physicist or any of this, but I read what they say.
They're literally built the cheapest and the worst you could
and the minute the power goes off and the minute there's a crisis,
folks, nuclear reactors are not like a 100 megaton bomb going off over Dallas or Austin
and there's a flash at 5,000 feet and it vaporizes and destroys most of the city.
But there's very little radiation after that.
When a reactor goes off like Chernobyl or like Fukushima, it's much worse and those were partially contained.
We're talking about hundreds and hundreds of reactors blowing up, and even if you are half a mile underground, it's going to end up getting to you, and the surface of the Earth will be unlivable for eons.
As you said, I've looked at every angle, there's no way the so-called globalists that pretend they're masters of the universe have even looked at this one problem.
This one problem already tells you that these are effectively madmen.
Because if they weren't, they would at the very least have arranged to put all of the material that had been out of the reactors long enough, and I believe it's five years, into dry cask storage so that it did not have to be actively cooled in order to... Instead they store it in the open tanks!
The worst possible place you could put it.
And, you know, Fukushima taught us every if you knew how to pay attention to the Fukushima
story, it should have taught us everything we needed to know
because in fact, as bad as Fukushima was, and it's far worse in my opinion
than most people realize, it was a fraction of as bad as it might have been.
And the thing that separated what happened from what might've happened was luck,
right?
They just barely managed to keep it together and it is not hard to imagine
scenarios in which, for example, a fuel pool had cracked and drained causing a fire that
would have made the site unmanageable.
So they are gambling with a A planet that isn't theirs to destroy, that is actually, it is the birthright of every living person and it is the entitlement of all the people who will eventually live here.
They're gambling with it and they obviously don't know what they're doing.
Well, I must tell you, this is one of the things I like about you best is that you're looking at this logically speaking, not ideologically.
And I find, in fact, many conservatives are not aware of the hazard of the nuclear reactors,
and they are frankly deaf to environmental concerns because environmental concerns have
been abused by those selling climate change as the biggest threat to humanity.
And what I'm hoping will emerge from a partnership across ideology is a recognition that irrespective
of where you think the diversity of the earth came from, that we have an obligation to steward
it well, and we are doing a terrible job of that.
That we have an obligation to, if we're going to have nuclear power, it has to be built
on a different basis than the reactors that we are currently continuing to run, right?
And that this is just common sense.
It's not liberal, it's not conservative, it is common sense, and I don't know Well, I made the point, and I guess you saw part of what I said last week, because it did get picked up and got a lot of views, a couple million views.
I just said, if you sign up with the executive over a nuclear power plant, Well, they made euthanasia legal.
Well, just say then you agree that if it melts down and there's a big problem, you agree to be executed.
No court, no nothing.
You signed on.
You're the steward.
You agreed to run this right.
And the shareholders are sitting out there.
They need to be held responsible.
And I don't want to run around killing people.
I'm not salivating.
I'm just making the point that these people are running things that just a few of these completely melting down will kill hundreds of millions of people of horrible cancers and stuff.
Well, at the very least, if you want the system to evolve in the direction of producing benefits for humanity, there has to be accountability for people when they make avoidable errors.
Yeah, I mean the design was preposterous and you know it was preposterous at many levels.
Below the known level of tsunamis meant that the flooding of the generators that were supposed to keep the cooling water flowing was perfectly predictable, and yet nobody cared about it.
And, you know, as you point out, I don't think anybody who was responsible for that design was held accountable.
In fact, we've obscured the harm that did come from it, and we certainly haven't talked about the harm that might have come from it.
So, on a fault line, in a tsunami zone... Right, with reactors, with generators that were unprotected from a flood that would, you know, wasn't a matter of if, it was a matter of when.
No, this is my exact concern, is that even the elites, what I call the rent-seeking elites, who we are clearly fighting, even they are depending on us winning, because they don't know enough to run the system.
They don't have the proper caution in their model.
They don't understand the systems that they're playing with.
Frankly, they can't distinguish between a complicated system and a complex system, and they keep upending themselves.
So, a complex system is impossible to predict at a high level of precision, which means that it requires a whole different level of caution than something that is just simply complicated, like a computer, where it may be beyond your ability to understand what's going on in there, but it is all understandable, right?
You can say what a computer is going to do when you alter this, that, or the other thing.
A complex system is a special entity.
And, you know, in the case of COVID, you had multiple nested complex systems, right?
You had a disease interacting with the immune system, which is a complex system, inside a human body, which is a complex system, inside of civilization, which is a complex system.
No wonder they screwed it up.
They just simply didn't know enough about that system to manage it and of course it got out of control and frankly those of us who did appreciate the complexity of the system were able to reveal their foolishness publicly just simply by treating the systems in question with the proper level of analytical respect.
And I get up front because you didn't know exactly what was going on at the time.
You wanted more data.
You were going along with it at first, but then once you saw what was happening, you changed course.
That takes more courage than people that are partly wrong and they never admit they're wrong.
But if we pull back from this, How did they think cooking this up in a lab?
How did they think when all the scientists scanned it and said, yeah, it's obviously man-made?
And then they bring out a shot, which even their own internal people go public saying, this isn't going to work.
Even the FDA had a memo out in October 2000 saying, we think it'll have all these problems.
And then the big money people just said, we don't care, bring it out there, do it.
And now I watch the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation events.
I watch the congressional hearings.
I watch the hearings.
With all the other big think tanks, like the Clinton Global Initiative.
And there's Chelsea Clinton going, it's true, everyone hates us now and doesn't believe us.
And now no one's taking any of the shots.
It's like 3% uptake on the new boosters.
And like, I was telling him, I'm like, whether they did it on purpose or not, regardless, it shows that they didn't know that this would absolutely screw the pooch.
So whether they did it on purpose or not, which you can debate all day, they certainly now know and have bought into keeping it going, so now they are behind it.
I mean, the fact is, those shots should never have been injected into a human being.
It was absolutely clear that we didn't know what their long-term consequences were going to be.
The evidence that they had benefits was misrepresented so that people would accept them with, you know, simple accounting tricks and the like.
But yes, the fact that they are still inflicting new shots tells us that they didn't care about the public in the first place.
And we ought to take that lesson to heart.
Now, to your point about having bought it at first.
There is no question that I, along with most other people, bought something about this story at the beginning.
And to the extent that people have woken up, that's something that happens over time.
But I know very well how my process of awakening began.
It literally took one hour, almost to the minute.
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I'm a bat biologist, so I looked at it and I thought... You're Batman!
I guess.
But I looked at this and I looked at the paper in question, and I thought it would be good, it would be reassuring to tell my Twitter followers that I'd looked at this, that I knew the bat family in question, That it made sense to me that this virus would have emerged in a contact between people and these bats, etc.
And so I put out a tweet.
And one of my followers came back and said, are you saying it's a coincidence that this virus emerged on the doorstep of a biosafety level 4 research lab studying bat coronaviruses in Wuhan?
And I said, what the hell don't I know?
That's shocking, that level of coincidence.
And I retracted my tweet.
And the point is, that's where my awakening started.
Now, I did believe that masks had a potential value, and in fact, that's not such a crazy belief, because we didn't know at first whether this virus transmitted by what's called fomite transmission on surfaces, and if it did, then not coughing droplets onto surfaces would have been useful.
Turns out it doesn't transmit that way.
Turns out the evidence is that masks don't play an important role, and so I got that wrong.
Well, let's make this clear, because people attacking with us Because they're jealous.
You're really smart.
You're entertaining.
You're informative.
I like your show.
Everybody I know likes your show.
I told family you were coming on.
They were really excited about it.
You're popular.
People love you.
And you're a good guy and you're smart.
The fact that you got some things wrong early on out of trying to be cautious and then reversed yourself and become a prominent person fighting it gives you more credibility, not less.
Well, frankly, if I'm looking to figure out who I should be paying attention to, the ability for somebody to improve their model as evidence emerges is the key question.
Frankly, it's a book that throws everybody who reads it, and I think through Bobby, when he wrote it, that even just compiling the evidence of what was going on with Anthony Fauci is shocking, almost no matter how awake you are.
And so the same thing I would say is true with his new book about bioweapons and Wuhan.
But I just highly recommend people look at it and they come to understand, for example... Then you learn they're all over the place.
You learn they're all over the place.
You learn that there is a direct connection from the Japanese bioweapons program during World War II.
And the program that was then built in the U.S.
It's really a strange story.
And then the maybe the most important aspect is that what we see as a pharmaceutical industry and a campaign to generate vaccines that control disease has a very close relationship Just in terms of the people involved has a very close relationship with that bioweapons program.
That is something every citizen needs to be aware of, that these two things are not distinct.
At the end of World War II, they led a bunch of the Japanese war criminals that did the baton death marches and all the biological testing on British, Australian, Canadians, because a lot of them were over there, and U.S.
sailors and people.
But it was mainly British Empire troops.
And they led most of them off.
I guess they hung a few of them.
And they brought them over here, just like the Nazis.
And if you think that the Nazis were the height of diabolical in terms of their medical experiments, the Japanese were involved in literally infecting people or having people infect other people and then dissecting them live without anesthetic.
I mean, this is this is atrocity at a level that stretches the capacity of the mind.
The other lesson I would take is that this is actually a set of circuits in the human animal that can be triggered.
And when we look at something like the response to COVID of the official governmental apparatus and the International community and we look at the evidence and it suggests that actually these people did not care about the suffering and death of citizens of any country then what prevents us from making the connection is that it seems impossible for anyone to be so callous but the evidence that that kind of callousness exists that we have well documented
Historical evidence that that not only exists, but that it recurs through history.
I want you to expand on that because one of the biggest mistakes of the Canadian military, the US military, and I'm not blaming the average troops, but the higher-ups and the European Union military, as I'm sure you saw it, in about 2021, by the end, they came out during the dancing nurses and all of it, They do.
What I don't know yet is what the purpose of this was.
psychological warfare systems to scare everybody to submission so they do the right thing and
take the shots.
And actually, our militaries ran this, and we know now the Pentagon was involved in developing
Alright, so do this, Doctor, and I'm going to try to, because you're so polite, I'm going to try to give you the floor here.
I saw you do a great job on Tucker, but even more has come out since you were on a month or so ago.
You break down and do a great job explaining that We're talking about 17 million dead, not from the COVID virus, but from the so-called shots, and then now more information's coming out, and there's an active cover-up going on.
Can you kind of repeat that, but also expand on it?
Well, Dennis Rancourt did what I think is a credible estimate.
It's well published.
I think you had him on.
And so it suggests that something like this magnitude of death has occurred.
Now, of course, let's say that his estimate is accurate.
That's still a number in the midst of the development of whatever the pathologies will be.
We're still dealing with a wave of excess death that has not ended, so we don't know ultimately what the number would be.
My point would be what we need is an active conversation about how much excess death happened and what were its causes.
Clearly some of it was caused by things like lockdowns which prevented people from getting regular medical care.
But what we need to know is what is the right order of magnitude for that effect?
And what is the nature?
This is, forgive me, this is a little complex, but I want people to think about it carefully, because a lot has been put on the spike protein.
People imagine that the spike protein is the cause of the pathologies, and while I think the spike protein was a very poor choice for these shots, that it does create pathologies of its own, I don't think it's the majority of what's going on.
And in fact, what I believe is It is likely that many of the deaths that occur as a result of these shots, it's the result of the mRNA platform itself.
That anything you loaded onto that platform would produce many of these pathologies, because the platform itself is deeply flawed.
That matters a great deal because one of the things, and I don't know what level in the explanation it serves, but one of the things that is true is that the COVID pandemic, whatever its nature was, from complete PSYOP to entirely biological, allowed the normalization of The mRNA platform being brought and used on the public with minimal testing, which made the flaws in the platform disappear.
The fact that we were in a hurry to get out of COVID allowed them to normalize the mRNA platform and that that platform, from the business perspective, Allows you to reformulate virtually any vaccine that you wanted and... In a lifetime.
Presumably to repatent it, to create vaccines very quickly for new pathogens, whatever their origin might be.
And what we in the public need to be aware of is that they haven't figured out how to solve the problem with it.
So anytime they deploy it, we need to say no.
So, let me just describe a little bit about why that flaw exists.
The mRNA message, this is a genetic message loaded into this platform, is surrounded by something called lipid nanoparticle.
If those lipid nanoparticles stayed in your deltoid muscle, then their consequence would be localized.
And although this consequence would be negative in your deltoid, it wouldn't be devastating to your health.
But they, of course, don't stay in your deltoid, which we learned very early.
They circulate around the body.
And the problem is that that lipid nanoparticle, lipid just means fat, and because like dissolves like, the fat on these tiny particles causes the mRNA to be absorbed into any cell they encounter.
All of your cells are covered in a fat layer.
So wherever these things circulate around the body, they get absorbed.
And when they get absorbed, they trigger the cells that have taken them up to produce this protein.
Now, this is the important part.
Your immune system is built so that it recognizes any cell of yours that is producing a protein that you do not ordinarily make.
They infect cells, cause those cells to make this protein, and then the immune system treats them like they are virally infected cells and destroys them.
Which, if that happens in your liver, maybe it's not that serious.
You can afford it.
If it happens in your heart, it's potentially devastating, because it creates a wound Which is then a vulnerability.
If you're a soccer player and you're running particularly hard, you know, you can get a blood vessel that bursts in your heart, causing a devastating pathology, causing your death, for example.
This is a predictable consequence of a shot that has no ability to target which cells take it up, and therefore no ability to protect you from your own immune system destroying the cells that have taken it up and giving you a lethal wound.
We're taping this now, but that gives me the luxury to go back and add these clips in, but there were three or four C-SPAN programs with Fauci and others in 2017, 18, 19, with all the different federal heads up there.
They're like, we're going to use a novel virus out of China, and I'll play the clip.
to blow up the old FDA system and we're just gonna bring in mRNA.
Well, I'm not a scientist, I'm not a doctor, I'm not a biologist like you,
but I sit here every day and I read Scientific American and I read studies and I read it.
I remember, I've been on there 30 years, I remember reading 20 years ago about,
"Hey, mRNA cancer trial or mRNA this." And like one kid was a study in New York died.
And they're like, well, we think it's promising, but it kills so many people, we can't do it.
And so in lay terms, that's the platform itself is so dangerous.
Yeah, maybe you can do something.
But we can't use the whole public as guinea pigs and I just see them trying to pollute the whole system with so much death and illness that now we don't know what hit us and they can then use all of us.
The big corporate system as guinea pigs because they themselves want life extension and they themselves want the cure to cancer, but they're saying we've got to do this and now Tony Blair has got a company and so does Bill Gates.
Oh, they've got a new mRNA vaccine cures cancer.
Oh, didn't know cancer was communicable.
No folks, they've changed the definition of vaccines to where it just means something that we put into your Body that lessens the disease.
But just five years ago, it was totally different.
So I even had my 15-year-old daughter this morning at breakfast, and she's arguing with me about vaccines.
And she's reading stuff online, and she goes to school, and I try to explain things to her, and she says, dad, a vaccine is just something that lessens the disease.
And I said, no, honey, before that, if you've got a real vaccine, it's a real technology, Your body learns how to beat it.
They give you a broken version of it or a weakened version, and you beat it.
Mesa loves side effects.
Sometimes you might have an allergic response, but if they had good, clean stuff, I'd take the risk.
I'd be taking it all like it was pumpkin pie.
She's like, Dad, how do you know all this?
And I said, well, fine, I got a scientist coming on.
I'm going to make you watch it in a couple of days.
They changed the definition and they utilized an emergency in order to speed it past the tests that I believe would never have allowed it to be used on humans or frankly even farm animals.
They used the panic that was in the public, panic which they themselves induced in order to sneak it past the controls.
And I do have to wonder how much They saw this coming.
Either they waited for an emergency, or it's possible they created the emergency.
Those are two distinct hypotheses.
But nonetheless, they used the fact that people urgently wanted to have their fear of the virus lessened to sell a lie.
And in fact, this is where, you know, I talked a little bit about how I Woke up at the point that my Twitter follower told me that there was a biosafety level 4 lab studying these viruses in Wuhan.
The place where that process really kicked into high gear was at the point that they said these so-called vaccines were safe.
Heather and I knew for certain that that could not possibly be the case.
And the reason it can't possibly be the case is because safe does not mean without harm.
It means without risk.
If a person gets in their car drunk and drives home and they don't hit anything, it was still not safe.
The fact that they did no harm doesn't mean anything.
It was dangerous.
So when they told us that these so-called vaccines were safe, they had to be lying and they had to know it.
And yet they looked right into the camera and they told us that.
And notice how smart, because I read that on air like three years ago, how good those lawyers were back then, because they covered every angle a tyrant would try.
I want to come back in the time we have and hit a whole bunch of issues.
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It is now a number one hit.
I imagined the control freak left attacking it.
But I didn't know that right when the game came out, with perfect timing, Elon Musk would release me on X. And the whole world will be waking up and the Davos Group will be confronted at their own events by world leaders calling out their tyranny.
This is the planets aligning.
And now, MSNBC, the corporate press, Media Matters, George Soros, they're all calling for it to be banned.
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Is there a way to counter the types of hate that people like Alex Jones promote and now they do in video games?
I mean, this is a party that talks about video games being dangerous for our kids.
And yet here he is with a video game that promotes violence.
Because, let's be honest here, when he is talking about killing globalists, we know what globalists now means for the Republican Party and what that is code for.
Because they understand they're reaching a bunch of young guys who are getting this sort of message beaten into them right now.
Today, I'm playing the Unhinged Alex Jones video game.
I saw it was released on Steam, so I'm like, well, that kind of opens the floodgates.
And I'm glad you raised that because I know your Twitter, I know your ex has been following it for years, but even when I was kicked off Twitter before Elon brought me back, and I still sometimes run onto the fake accounts.
There are fake accounts and there is something algorithmically going on inside of Twitter which is also very strange when you see it from my side of the screen.
I don't know what it is.
I suspect it's not Elon doing it.
Let's put it this way.
He said that he had in fact purchased a crime scene and I think that is a very apt description.
There's a lot about Twitter that is not straightforward.
That's in fact exactly the phrase that I used to try to convey this to him.
There are things that I can see from my side that I think he's unaware of.
So, anyway, I hope he does fix it.
At one point he was talking about having to rebuild it in order to get all of the ghosts out of the machine, and I don't know where he is with that thought process.
Sure, so the Darien Gap is a gap in the Pan-American Highway.
It's about 60 miles in length, where the highway has never been completed.
This is a highway that goes from Prudhoe Bay, Alaska to the southern tip of South America, and there's a jungle.
In fact, there's a national park in the Darien Province of Panama, and what has happened is that For various reasons, largely encouraged by the international community, various NGOs, there is a massive migration of people coming through
The Darien Gap.
And this is a disaster at an environmental level.
This is extremely destructive of this unique forest, and it really is a unique forest.
It is a humanitarian catastrophe as well.
People are dying in the jungle because almost all of them enter it unprepared, and it's an extremely difficult habitat to cross.
And it's also I'm not even sure what the word would be, but politically, the implications of the huge number of migrants, almost all of whom are coming north to the U.S., are going to cross our southern border, the implications are utterly profound.
Now, what I told Tucker was that I wasn't exactly sure why I went to look at this in person, because there's plenty of documentation from Michael Yan, about what's taking place but something told me that I needed to see it in person in order to understand it and that turned out to be true that actually looking at it in person changed what I understood and I came to the conclusion that there is a massive migration but there is also something
My hypothesis is that it's actually an invasion of Chinese migrants who are motivated by something entirely distinct from the people migrating from elsewhere in the world.
The migrants from elsewhere, a lot of them are from South America, some of them are from the Middle East, but those migrants All tell the same story about being motivated by the economic collapses in their home countries and what they perceive as economic opportunity in the US.
The Chinese migrants aren't interested in talking at all.
In fact, they're extremely cagey.
To the extent that one gets anything from them, it is a kind of hostility.
There is a distinct male bias in the population of Chinese migrants.
So we're talking about young military, military-age males, most of them very fit, unwilling to talk about what they're doing, and oddly enough, housed separately in Panama.
This is a strange combination of low-tech and high-tech.
There are apps that appear to tell them where to go and how to make the migration.
They're using things like Western Union in order to bring money from home so that they can buy bus tickets that allow them to travel through Central America.
It's a very odd circumstance and the international community has its fingerprints all over it.
You can see American flags, you can see the IOM, that's a UN body that If you read their website, they clearly believe that migration is inherently a good thing and it is their job to bring it about.
So this organization is inviting people to try to cross the Darien Gap, some of whom don't make it.
Mothers are leaving the jungle having lost children, children are leaving the jungle orphaned.
It's a catastrophe and why the international community And no media coverage other than you and Tucker Carlson and Michael Yawn, and you said a humanitarian disaster.
I lived in the Panama Canal in Lake Gatun on Barrow, Colorado Island for 18 months while I was studying bats.
So I know Panama reasonably well, and what is taking place in In the Darien Gap, and moving north, is in its own way an inversion of what was true in Panama when I was there in the late 90s.
had not officially handed the canal over and its military presence was still there, and these things were well understood.
The canal was an American achievement, the military's presence there Uh, was both symbolic and important to the protection of the canal, which was understood to be vital to the interests of the United States.
And now, in Fort Clayton, which was the Army South headquarters, when I was there, that has now been taken over by the
international community and turned to the purpose of encouraging this migration,
thereby jeopardizing the security of the United States.
I don't know what story these people tell themselves about what they are doing, but yes, it appears to be that what was once, what was built to protect American interests and to facilitate our well-being is now being turned to its exact opposite purpose.
Like everything else, I don't see how the powerful financial interests of the world are using American power to continue their corporate empire, but at the same time, schizophrenically, Paradoxically, moronically attacking it.
I mean, I think we're always left to struggle for what they could possibly be thinking.
And I think where you began this discussion is exactly right.
We have to take into account that Diabolical, yes.
Geniuses, I don't think so.
I think these people are reckless and they do not understand that they are having a much easier time breaking these systems than they will have rebuilding them.
Well, it's almost like they have the mentality that they can, you know, rebuilding the system isn't high on their priority list because they know that they have to break the systems that allow citizens some control over their own well-being and their own future.
Right, and the fact is, Heather frequently points out that this is really a mistake that could only be made by people who have not traveled the world.
Because once you've seen how successful our system actually is, yeah, there's unfairness in it, no question about that.
But you would address the unfairness at the level that it actually exists, rather than imagine that if you tear it apart, that something better will replace it.
There's almost no way that they could exceed what Western civilization has already done to bring about fairness, which doesn't mean that it has arrived at fairness.
It's like you're on a ship at sea and you decide that you don't like something about its construction, so you're going to sink it in hopes that something better comes along.
Alright, shifting gears out of that then, what do you make of the hysteria over Tucker?
Hundreds of millions of views on X, billions have seen clips of it, one of the biggest interviews ever, it's like moon landing level coverage, and then you've got him calling him a traitor, Boris Johnson, Democrats want The espionage act to be used.
I mean, this is shameful.
This is hysterical.
This is, what is your view as someone that's researched what freedom is about, academia, all of this.
I mean, this is, this is, and then the Putin interview was really, I mean, I thought him just kind of giving up saying, we'll never be friends.
You never want to stop.
And basically we're never, you're never going to dominate us.
So this is just simply a matter of holding somebody to a different standard because it allows you to tear them down.
Um, you know, I don't know what to make of what Putin said.
I did find it, uh, there was something interesting about how different culturally his approach to this interview was.
You know, it was obviously mired in, you know, historical questions of, in my opinion, limited relevance to... He was arguing his legal right, you know, because this is ours, instead of using the opportunity.
Right.
But nonetheless, in terms of whether there's anything questionable about Carlson going there to interview him, no, I'm glad he did go there to interview him because we need to know, even just need to know what Putin sounds like to himself.
That's useful information from the perspective of protecting ourselves from Putin.
So why aren't they smart enough to see, first order, you demonize Tucker, you're discredited, it only makes him bigger, and the interview is 20 times bigger?
Well, so I actually think this goes to another set of questions.
So I, as a COVID dissident who watched us outfox the official narratives and those who were spreading it, I think a lot about the force that we're up against.
And my model, which I did talk about on my first interview with Tucker a couple months ago, is that we're up against something that I call Goliath.
And Goliath is partly built of a cabal or several cabals, and it's partly an emergent phenomenon.
It is ferociously powerful, but it's also stupid.
It is relatively easy to beat if it is not on territory where it is dominant.
And so this means a couple things.
One, it means those of us who are fighting that force should always keep in mind that getting Goliath on our territory, not its territory, is the way to beat it.
So the fact that Carlson, like you, like Joe Rogan, has established an outpost that is not supposed to exist, right, an unsanctioned kind of media, that's not Goliath's territory.
And in fact, Goliath made the terrible error during COVID of imagining that Off-brand media didn't matter when in fact it mattered ever more as people Detected that what they were getting on the mainstream channels was not true and in fact was capable of harming them They started listening to other people who were making sense and piecing it together.
And so in any case I think what's going on is is that Carlson powerfully demonstrated that you could actually take the off-brand media and you could start doing the job that a newspaper might once have done with a newsroom full of reporters traveling the world, that sort of thing.
Interestingly, I think that is creating a, it is taking a kind of institution that came about in the podcast space that got kicked into high gear over COVID, and it's moving it to the next level, which actually reflects, I was recently in the Czech Republic, and I was thrilled to find That the values that I consider values of Western civilization are alive and well in the Czech Republic in a way I wasn't expecting to see.
And anyway, I was trying to piece together why this was, did the Iron Curtain protect this spirit in the Czech Republic from Forces in the market that have taken it apart here at home.
In any case, I was thinking about Václav Havel, the leader of the Czech Republic, and I was alerted that there was another Václav Benda, who I hadn't heard of, who actually makes this argument that the way To win this battle is to build parallel institutions.
So I wonder if that's not in effect what we're watching is, okay, if the media is going to refuse to report the news, then we're going to build it outside.
If the universities are going to refuse to educate inside those structures, then we're going to do it outside on the internet, right?
That's what's happening is the parallel institutions are rising to displace the feeble, broken, corrupted institutions that refuse to function.
Nietzsche said, that which doesn't kill you only makes you stronger.
And if you look at segregation, it was a horrible crime.
Jim Crow, terrible.
My dad grew up in East Texas and he said, no, that when I was a kid, the black people had better hotels or better as good a restaurants, everything because they were suppressed.
They then had built their own thing.
And so we're not defending those institutions.
We're simply saying that because they were under communism suppression.
They'd already kind of been at the bottom, then they come out of it, but they're still not Western, so they weren't infected by the neoliberal corporate, you know, mind control, and so they still had kind of that suppressed instinct of freedom left, and that was soil for it to sprout from.
So the World Health Organization is cryptically Writing the rule set that would have allowed Goliath to win the COVID battle, where Goliath ended up embarrassed by those of us on the outside exposing the lies that were being told.
It's terrifying and I mean it includes insane things like the right of the World Health Organization to mandate not only vaccines but gene therapy to redistribute medical technology.
So imagine that you know instead of the battle over ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine that we saw that the WHO could just dictate that those things be moved somewhere else and you would have no access to them.
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Well, all I'm saying is... Start over, start over.
Look, to me, Western civilization is fundamentally about an agreement to put aside our lineages, our races, and to collaborate with each other on the basis that there are things to be accomplished.
And that is the magic that made America as powerful as it was.
How successful are you going to be if you have to collaborate only with people who look like you versus how successful will you be if you can collaborate with whoever has the most useful tools to bring to the table?
If we share values and then we collaborate on how to accomplish them, that's powerful and it made America truly great and tremendously powerful.
So, America is now compromised by whatever has taken over our political structures, but Folks in Eastern Europe are now beginning to recognize that they hold the values that we once held so dear, and that they're in a position to protect us from things like what's taking place in the World Health Organization.
So that's what I'm hoping will happen, is that they will shine, that they will rise to this challenge, and they will derail this diabolical proposal to the good of all of humanity.
Wow, well that sounds optimistic and I think it is optimistic, but what do you make just of the cut-and-dry situation in Ukraine?
NATO's been defeated, they're doubling down, Putin's not perfect, but clearly they started the war.
NATO started it, from my perspective, if you disagree, tell me, nine years ago.
And it's one thing to go blow up the Iraqis, and I'm not saying Saddam was perfect, but lie about WMDs.
Now you're starting a war with a highly sophisticated civilization that has a thousand year history of being invaded over and over again and doesn't give up.
I mean, it's like starting a fight with Mike Tyson in his prime.
So is that that something has gotten into our system and is inducing us to hurt ourselves?
That's possible.
Is it just stupidity?
That's also possible.
So when we pick a fight, You have to ask the question about whether there is an objective we don't know, or whether this is just insanity that has taken over the system.
And I really don't know the answer to that question, but I do know that the emergent part of Goliath There are lots of things that can cause people to sign on to bad policy.
So, for example, the fact that we had warehouses full of weaponry that meant that we didn't need to buy more.
If you can unload that weaponry onto a foreign battlefield, then suddenly the order's flowing.
Yes, and I think it's the kind of thing that is very difficult to accomplish if people have a normal relationship with their own mortality and their own progeny.
If you love your children, you don't start World War III, even if it makes sense on a balance sheet somewhere to do it.
Yes, maybe if you're in an elite position, you'll earn some money that your kids will inherit.
For 50, 60, 70, 80 years, 100 years with the robber barons, they've been hiring yes men and yes women that'll just do what they're told, but then they've graduated up to the command positions and they're yes men who aren't even war gaming things and it's a runaway train and all they're doing is be engaged in predator activity of just accumulating wealth, not understanding they're undermining the very civilization that would let them spend that wealth.
There's something at the core of this dysfunction that is about incompetence.
And if you've lived inside a system, if you've been inside the university system, let's say as a scientist as I was, and you've watched that the majority of every department is composed of people who, although they are fully convinced they are engaged in behaving scientifically, are just simply not.
They're not good at it.
What is it that took something as important as science and hijacked it for purposes presumably mostly economic?
What is it that caused us... I mean, look at what we did with the mandates to our own military, right?
We inflicted something on the military that drove out all of the people who are likely to stand up... And they turned around and say, sorry, come back!
They reversed the policy, but now people are loathe to join the military because they know that such a policy can come down the pike and it can put them in a terrible...
All right, the 10 minutes we have left, I'm a big fan, love you on the show, love seeing you on other shows, and people have been attacking you, we kind of started with this, but maybe we should end with it, about, well, this guy, you know, didn't have a perfect pedigree fighting the New World Order.
There's not many people out there that have been doing this 30 years like I am.
There's some other great people out there that have done it as well, and we love them to death.
Is to learn from other people, and then they learn from me, and then we have a consensus and we fix things.
I want to win this.
I don't want to sit around and say, this is the most holy of all our people, and then this person was always perfect, and this person, no, no.
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Tucker came here 11 years ago and said, man, I thought you were cooking wrong.
I woke up, you're right.
I've influenced him, he's influenced me.
I've learned my own personal power of persuasion.
Not that I'm the grand poobah or the best guy around, but I've seen the power of debate.
I've seen we can win.
I've seen we can come together.
I know humans are overall good, but this holier-than-thou stuff, folks, is a disease.
And it's in the left, where you've got to prescribe to every leftist ideology that's put out by some think tank, and then when that's all agreed to, now there's a new group wanting power over it that makes it even more radical.
Yes, I've been watching this and I'm horrified by it because I have the sense that people are fighting over credit at halftime and that they're going to screw up the game.
And the fact is, We all have everything to gain by leveling up together.
That's what we should be doing.
And, you know, for people to look at Joe Rogan or Tucker Carlson or me or you and say, oh, they're controlled opposition because they were taken in by, you know, the COVID narrative or something.
The fact is, A, you know, you can start with a cynical position that says nothing anybody ever tells you is right, and yeah, you will not buy any bullshit if that's where you start from, but you also won't be able to detect anything useful.
I go to the grocery store, I go to church, I see family, and they go, oh, we love that professor, that doctor, that Dr. Brett Weinstein, and he's really great.
People, you're a smart guy.
You're entertaining.
You're great.
You can talk about any subject.
You're a great guy.
And this is something I want to say.
I always sat back on air for 30 years in April.
And said, I don't think I myself was the best.
And I'm doing this, trying to do this.
I said, where are all these professional men and women I know?
And then I see that I know are smart and know what's going on.
Because they were asleep or they were only focused with blinders on, you know, kind of a wormhole, a tunnel vision on what they were doing.
But I believe, and I've said this for 25 years, that once things got bad, we would get The professors and the scientists and the researchers on our side.
And when it starts to happen and the avalanche is to us, we just literally beat the hell out of Big Pharma.
Their stock's going straight down.
No one's taking their crap.
We're winning.
And then we turn into this, this, this.
Like Spanish Inquisition or something going around to find out if somebody's a heretic or were they perfect.
Folks, the big win is here.
We have got to stop because they're ready for a rematch.
Yeah, and it is the result in part of this very unfortunate fact, which is the people who are independent minded The Lone Wolves, who actually do see through things early, are often not very good at teaming up.
It's a paradox, because collectivists are very good at teaming up, but then a central system can pay them and do it, whereas independent people are some of the best thinkers, but they'll never want to team up.
Well, I mean, look, I think a lot of this is solved metaphorically, and what I do is I think in terms of the stories in which We all appreciate this.
You know, the Lord of the Rings, or the ragtag fugitive fleet from Battlestar Galactica.
And the point is, look, maybe you don't start out with that skill set, but you can develop that skill set, and if you think about it, just quietly to yourself for a moment, you'll realize that the only way we're going to win is if we figure out who to team up with and how to do it.
So anyway, that's a skill we can develop and we should be working on it every day because, as Alex just said, the victory is there to be had, but we are going to end up going out of the frying pan and into the fire if we don't figure out how to overcome our tendency to attack each other.
Look, I've got Elon's number, I don't mean literally, I mean I've got, I can see the cut of his jib.
He's a scientist, he's a promoter, he's a salesman, he's a really smart guy, has incredible energy, and he wants to dominate every scientific development that's out there.
He wants to be, you know, the Spradley Sprockets of George Jetson world.
He's all over the place.
The enemies of humanity have been very good at dividing and conquering us.
But if we simply start thinking about things according to the definition of "is it pro-human
or is it anti-human?" we start to win.
And that's why I had the idea for Team Humanity.
I brought it up to Elon Musk.
He loved the idea.
What would you call the debate and discussions about a pro-human future?
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But as they mess with him and go after him and try to shut down his companies and make him bend and be their minion.
He's come out against him and has done a lot to free up X, has done a lot with his own account, reaching hundreds of millions a day to do good work.
So I can sit there and say, that's good work.
Now, do I know all his motives?
You know?
No.
I mean, I know myself, I'm a good person, but I have an evil side too.
And I sometimes go, are you really being a good person?
So I can't judge Elon Musk when I even have problems judging myself sometimes because I'm like 90% good.
But also, you know, you have a subconscious that goes on there, but This idea that Elon Musk is working for the establishment when, as you point out, there's a lot of different factions that are like battling over the levers of control.
I just don't see as fair.
And then, OK, say we don't trust Elon.
We've got to see what he does long term.
Judge a tree by its fruits.
Then don't spend 90% of your time saying Elon's a shill, Elon's a fraud.
Say, okay, we don't totally trust you, Proviso, read the fine print, but boost all the great stuff he's doing.
Because I look at what he's doing and it's enraging the EU.
They're trying to indict him.
He's got all these drug stories and all these attacks.
I've been through this, but on a smaller scale.
He's getting Trumpian level hate now.
The globalists, the corrupt, illegitimate, Yeah, and I would add two things to it.
Okay, you can't fake that and so I see a huge opportunity here
We could lose Musk when he's trying to jump to our camp if we don't embrace him now if he does something wrong later
We go hey wait, but if we don't He's trying to jump to us is what I see and if we don't
grab him. He's not ours does that make sense yeah And I would add two things to it
They literally injected something into you that makes you ill.
But the other thing is what he's done with Twitter And believe me, there's plenty of fault left in Twitter.
But what he's done is he has created an outpost of at least much freer speech.
And we say on our podcast, zero is a special number.
What we mean by that is that you can change these games by simply creating a single entity that departs from the rule.
If you have one platform on which you can say what needs to be said, then every other platform has to follow suit because nobody's going to want to be on a platform where they treat you like a child if there's a platform where you can be an adult.
Same thing goes for universities.
If you have one university that's actually teaching you to think more clearly, then nobody wants to go to any other.
And what that tells you is he's not, I don't know how complex the chess board that he's looking at is, but he can't be totally on their team because he's created a space where Tucker Carlson can say what needs to be said.
I can't imagine the complexity of what he has to look at, right?
It's mind-boggling, and all of us who have never been in his shoes, which is frankly all of us, can't appreciate that level of complexity, so we owe it to him to at least give him the benefit of the doubt.
Right, but I want to make the point that my ability to be here is something that was carved out by Joe Rogan and Tucker Carlson, who took that risk first.
And I appreciate their carving out the ability to have this discussion, because at the end of the day, I believe you are a patriot and a very important force in this battle.
In this paradox where they created this artificial Alex Jones, 10% of it was my fault.
I did do some things that were wrong, but most of it was blown up, exaggerated, all controlled.
But if Alex Jones is put up there as the symbol of evil, if he's allowed speech, everybody else is safe.
And they, speaking of NATO, I don't know if you saw the document, but NATO said six years ago, we're going to ban Jones and we're going to ban WikiLeaks.
And once we do that, well, everybody will follow suit.
We'll ban it all.
So they admitted that I'm not that important, but I became important when they
picked me as the symbol of demonization and thought no one would stand with me.
And now that Joe did and Elon and you came here knowing full well what you're doing,
it's not that we agree on everything or any of that, unless you get the proviso out, even
though we agree on most stuff, they'll lie about something I said and say, "Do you agree
It's about agreeing to have a conversation and rediscovering what makes us great.
So one more time, tell us about your book.
Tell us how we follow you on Rumble and on Locals.
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We're going to end this with the video, or the footage, of the great Rod Serling's Planner of the Apes ending scene with the late, great Charlton Heston when he learns he's actually back on Earth and they blew it all up.
Economist, PhD, Kirk Elliott is in studio with us.
Dr. Elliott is a great guy, just does a great job, and our listeners love him.
I love him too.
And so I asked him, he lives in Colorado, to come here when he was on a few weeks ago,
when we can do a Saturday commercial-free broadcast and be able to really, really drill into the deep dive
on what the real economic numbers are versus what Biden's telling us
and what he and other experts believe the trends are and where we're going.
We'll then intersperse it and tie it into all the news and other breaking information
as we go for the next few hours or so.
And then, former Green Beret commander and lawyer and Defense Intelligence Agency operative,
Ivan Reiklin was on yesterday, live in studio.
He was in a toboggan accident with his kids and blew his leg out.
He was in a wheelchair.
He traded punches with me.
We were wargaming, what if they killed Trump?
And that's what you do in the military.
I'm not in the military, but I studied this for 30 years, so I'm in the same, you know, bailiwick.
That's why I come up with info wars.
We were wargaming, what if they killed Trump?
And how it would blow up in their face and how horrible it would be, which will make them not kill him.
And it got picked up out of context.
And I mean, I think this morning I looked around like 5 million views,
different versions of it's probably 10 million now.
Alex Jones wants Trump dead.
And then even some conservatives bought into that because they saw a 30 second clip.
Folks, that is... Okay, Secret Service, come get me.
No.
We were saying you kill Trump like Obi-Wan Kenobi, he gets more powerful than you can possibly imagine.
They shouldn't do that.
And that's been war game.
Just like I could tell them, don't indict Trump a bunch for stuff he didn't do.
It'll make you more popular.
I mean, that's not rocket science, folks.
In the 1970s, they had total control.
This is just culture in Nashville over country music.
And then four or five people, Waylon Jennings, Willie Nelson, a few others, Chris Christopherson, moved to Austin, Texas, and they said, screw you, we're doing our own music.
And it totally changed that whole industry.
And by the mid-1980s, five or six outlaw country artists had a bigger market than all of Nashville.
You're like, well, who cares about that?
Well, it's the same for culture and politics and freedom.
Joe Rogan's the most popular, and Tucker Carlson, and everybody sounds like Alex Jones now because it's the truth.
And Elon Musk sounds like Alex Jones now because it's the truth and it's popular.
So we were explaining that Trump is seen as the outlaw to the system, you know, the Dukes of Hazzard, just some good old boys, doing no harm, but in trouble with the laws since the day they were born.
This isn't some point about, okay, Willie Nelson is a great guy, I've been friends with him for decades.
This is about...
Culturally on something that matters, we're breaking through and we're winning.
It's like something like half the main hit movies now, like 48% I was seeing in a big variety or Hollywood Reporter article a few months ago, is Christian movies.
Hollywood's dying, but Christian movies are exploding.
So we're here saying we're winning the culture war.
It doesn't look like that if you just tune into MSNBC.
So we've got a lot of potential to rebuild things.
We're very close.
So when I give you all this negative information and scary information, it's like a roadmap.
Kind of like you go to the beach one day and it's 50 mile an hour winds, they got red flags up and say, rip tide, don't get in the water.
It's not a negative, scary thing.
It's saying, it's not safe.
People need to know what we're navigating.
So Dr. Kirk Elliott, thank you so much for flying down here.
I'm glad you're only a few hours away by planes.
You can be here.
The listeners love you.
I've just had like a 30 minute prelude to all of this.
Where do you want to start?
Because you've got a lot of preparation.
You sent us a lot of documents.
I love guests like you that really get your preparation together.
Well, there's so much, Alex, and just since the last time that I was here, We talked about bank failures coming and I said, I think we're going to have bank failures 2.0.
So with bank failures 2.0, what did I mean about that?
Well, we're seeing regional bank stocks just getting crushed, absolutely crushed.
So I was doing some research and Zero Hedge did a great article, Alex, about this.
And so if you look at the bank stocks, Azora Bank cratering, falling off a cliff.
Western Alliance Bank Corp, the article says being clubbed like a baby seal.
Oh, my word.
Shares of Zions Bank Corp, Comerica, Webster Financial, they're tumbling.
Citizens Financial, Regions Financial, South State Prosperity Banksters, Schwab.
Schwab.
This is not a regional bank.
Good grief.
So their shares are just crushing.
They're falling off a cliff.
So when you look at that, now what?
So I think what we saw in What we saw with Silicon Valley Bank, Alex, what we saw with Credit Suisse, what we saw with all of those bank failures that we saw last spring, we're starting to see this again.
Now, the reason that this is important is why are they crumbling?
It was in response to the Fed.
So, the Fed has promised, like we talked about on previous shows here, that 2024 was going to be different.
We've had all these rate increases over the last year and a half on interest rates to slow down inflation, and what did they say?
They said 2024, we've basically tackled the inflation problem.
No, so there's two ways, it's important for the viewer to understand this, there's two reasons why you want to look at inflation.
Inflation can go up because the economy is growing and it can sustain higher prices and people's wages are going up and so therefore retailers can charge more and blah blah blah.
Or, inflation can go up simply because they're printing money like there's no tomorrow.
So, what the Fed and the Biden administration is saying, inflation is good, it means the economy is growing.
I just saw a video of Jerome Powell a couple days ago stating, look, the economy has never been better.
Inflation means that the economy is growing, and you've got jobs that are increasing.
They're completely double talking, but they're using the definition of inflation that talks about a growing economy, not looking at the definition of inflation that just is simply an increase in the money supply to provide stimulus to everything.
There is no growth in that, and I've got Documents here that prove that.
So what happened?
So last week they decided, hey, we're going to actually just pause interest rates for the fourth time in a row rather than starting to reduce them, which tells us what?
It tells us they know they haven't won this battle against inflation.
Because in an election year, they want the stock market to boom.
Now, I still think that they're going to lower interest rates probably once so they can try to save face, Alex, and say, look, we told you we're going to lower them, so we did.
But there's no possible way that I think that we're going to go throughout this year without rate increases because there's problems that they haven't tackled.
Number one is there's more stimulus, more spending.
They're spending like drunken sailors, and we're going to address that.
Number two, the BRICS nations rising up, taking away demand for the US dollar
by trading in their own currencies with 70% of the world's population, part of the BRICS nations now.
So the demand for the petrol dollar is gone, which means there's no capital inflow into America,
When we have debt ceiling, when we have entitlements, when we have Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, Women, Infant, Children programs, food stamps, infrastructure, Department of Defense, everything, there's no inflow of capital, which means they're going to have to print money like there's no tomorrow.
So here's the problem.
We've got they didn't lower rates because they can't because they haven't tackled inflation.
Their policies tell us that that's the case.
So what happened to these regional bank shares?
They start collapsing.
Why?
Because they needed interest rates to come down because they're facing delinquencies.
When you have a series of delinquencies, you go into default.
So people aren't paying off their loans.
This is a problem.
And so what I see coming, and this article was great because there isn't all just regional banks in this.
Schwab, Alex, that's huge.
One of the largest investment firms in the world.
They're on this list of their shares just being clubbed.
Right, and so what's this going to mean to the U.S.
population?
When they see that what should be the safest asset in the world, their bank account, is no longer safe because banks are undercapitalized and possibly going to have another bank run.
What happens to society, the fabric of society, when you start to have bank runs?
Well, inflation really impacts people living at the margin.
So when people are living hand-to-mouth, paycheck-to-paycheck, if you lose or miss one to two paychecks and you probably have to file for bankruptcy, these are the people that inflation hits the most.
Most of America is living in that at-the-margin threshold.
So when you have this quagmire, you've got rising prices, you've got rising taxes, you've got rising cost of borrowing, that's the kiss of death.
That's a recipe for disaster.
And this is exactly what's happening under Bidenomics.
Now, you also have recession is looming, Alex, because If you hear what Biden is saying, he's saying, we're having a renaissance in manufacturing in America.
He says they're doing good. And that's a lot of jobs that are being lost.
Manufacturing jobs are the bread and butter to the US economy.
So what happens when people aren't working?
People aren't going to be able to afford to buy houses.
So what we're seeing here is a precursor to recession in the manufacturing jobs, meaning recession in the housing market, and that's going to be amplified, literally an amplified recession, which basically means depression coming, economic depression, When the housing market is going to collapse because rising interest rates means people can't afford to buy their houses and you've got lowering wages.
So do this for me, in the next hour we're going to roll through all the technicals, all the facts, all the graphs you sent me, all the documents, but just as an American citizen, as an economist, somebody that does this for a living, I know we don't know perfectly where it's going to go or what to predict, but This doesn't look well.
I mean, hopefully we get Trump in.
He can do some things to try to turn it around.
But the black rock of the globalists say we're not open for business.
Biden last week just killed liquid natural gas sales from the US, which was our only main export.
I mean, it's like holding our head underwater is what it looks like to me.
Okay, the windmills are like 10 percent, they're nothing.
And when you do that, that's directly the real economy.
So when you cut off energy sales and you say you can't increase generation at your coal plants in the hot summer or the winter, which they've done, and you were going to ban all your gas ranges, and we're going to, I mean, they're literally, if you want to strike people, that's what you do.
Yeah, so they basically said in this fact sheet from the White House, it's like, because we want to tackle climate change, we're going to put a temporary pause on pending approvals of liquefied natural gas.
So like you said Alex, what are we good at in America?
We're good at a lot of things, but what we're really, really good at is oil and gas.
This is, the timing of this seems really bizarre to me.
Because they've been talking about climate change forever, right?
But so why bring it out a few days after the big border crisis when Texas is going after the feds, and they're all fighting with each other at the border, and so what does Biden say?
He said, hey, we're going to pause exports of LNG, liquefied natural gas, to Asia, to Europe.
So you have all these people... Because we've cut Russia off, which is like, okay, that'll let the US market... No, he's killed the Russian market, blown up the pipeline to Europe, and is cutting our gas off.
And what happens when you have all these manufactured layoffs?
Right, whether it's in manufacturing like we're seeing, oil and gas, tech stocks, tech companies are laying people off hand over fist for a different reason, but yet same result, people aren't working.
So what happens when people don't work?
There's no income tax revenues for the government.
When people don't work, they're not spending money, which means sales tax revenues come down.
Well, they're actually creating a Pandora's box, where people aren't working, they're going to the government for benefits, and the government is losing its revenue streams because people aren't working.
This is the biggest thing, I think, of this generation because it's a change in the monetary system globally that has been in place since 1944 in Bretton Woods when the US dollar was the world's reserve currency.
That power has shifted to the East.
World's reserve currency, I believe now, is going to be the BRICS nations.
When you read the EU Central Bank, the British Central Bank, the Russian Central Bank, the Chinese Central Bank, the US Central Bank, they all admit the old system's coming to an end and they're positioning for the new and then our own government's doing the perfect thing you do to kill the dollar.
And if you create a system where everybody is scared, where everybody is fearful, where they can't make their payments, and say, hey, government, we will give up our financial freedom, we'll give up our financial privacy for this, And in result, what do you get?
Spyware in your bank account, literally.
You get ideological-based spending behaviors where they will cut you off from buying or selling if your ideology doesn't match up.
I always wonder why are they so, like they'll lie on the news and say none of this is happening, but if you tune into the UN or the WF, they admit it all.
You'll eat bugs, we're taking your kids, we're going to bankrupt everybody, you're going to limit a 200 square foot of coffin apartment.
Why do they at one level say it's not happening for the general public, but at their meetings, Well, I think so, and why would they actually say these extraordinary things and people not fight back?
Maybe it's because people don't realize that it actually is that bad.
Now, something like five companies own 80% of the food, and whether it's Tyson chicken or anything, the breading on your chicken now, folks, is cricket protein.
They did it.
You say, oh, y'all never did that?
Oh yeah, you are.
I've caught myself buying stuff, because I shopped some of the groceries, and I'm like, holy crap, that's got bug protein.
It's following inflation and there's a better way to do things because if you have an 80% correction like we saw in 2000 when the tech stocks blew, it took like nine years to recover from that.
Do you think it would be smarter to kind of watch those intermediate trends, buy low, sell high, lock in those profits and then not wait nine years to recover?
Our philosophy as a company is to have a lifetime relationship with our clients, because I'm a relationship kind of guy.
So when we can hold a client's hand through the economy, let them know when it's time to buy, sell, reallocate, get out of dodge, do whatever needs to be done, you have to have something that's liquid.
This is an important key in gold and silver.
Most companies out there, when you look, When you look at their invoices, and if you're out there and you've purchased from them, a lot of them that I'm seeing, $60, $70 an ounce for silver, over $3,000 an ounce for gold.
It's like, are you kidding me?
See, those kind of things, you have to make a market for them.
So what does that mean?
When it's time to buy or sell, and we've all seen this, we've all experienced it, so you'll get a call from a gold and silver dealer and they'll say, hey Jane Doe, have I got a deal for you.
We just found this like old carriage that tipped over in Nevada way back in the day and there's these gold coins from it and boy they're rare and they're amazing and we can get them to you.
But they're not going to last long.
They're going to be gone in 72 hours, so you have to act now and we'll give you 5% off, right?
Something silly like that.
I mean, that means also when you need to liquidate them and lock in profits, the same thing.
They have to make a market for it.
They have to find somebody else that wants to buy those things because there's not a ready-made market for those.
See, when we at our firm, we deal in bullion.
Which is a global commodity.
It's used for manufacturing.
So when we want to lock in a price, we simply call the depository, we lock in the price, and then in a very short period of time, we wire the funds into your account.
But the key is, the transaction is done immediately.
Whether it's India or China or something where their currencies are out of favor and they need gold or silver or for manufacturing like Sony, Samsung, Tesla, LG, wanting to buy silver for manufacturing, there's always a market for it.
So, key to investing, never buy something you have to make a market for because it could be illiquid.
Always buy something where there's a ready-made market for it.
This is what we focused on For the beginning of our company, I've been doing this since 2002.
And I've never seen a client that's actually overcome those high premiums and those things, like ever.
I've been doing this for a long time.
But in bullion, it's more of a...
An immediate answer to when you want to lock in profits, boom, it's done because the market is there globally because it's a manufacturing metal.
Now, if any of you out there watching feel like, oh my word, Dr. Kirk, I think I've been ripped off, send us your invoice.
We'll look at it, and we'll let you know.
Just send it to Ashley at K-E-P-M dot com.
That's Ashley at K-E-P-M.
That's KirkElliottPreciousMetals.com.
And she'll look at it and somebody from my team will call you back and say, we think you were in the wrong place at the wrong time, overcharged, overpriced, and we'll help you kind of try to unwind out of what you think might be a situation where you got ripped off.
I mean, we'll look at it for you.
This is what we do.
Our goal is to help.
Why?
Because we want a lifetime relationship with our clients And so we'll help you take advantage of that situation to get you in the right place at the right time, grow, thrive, and hopefully have your position be something that you envisioned it was going to be from the jump, right?
From the get-go.
You invested in gold and silver.
Why?
Because you wanted to take advantage of the market to go into something that's going to grow, go into something... And just to interrupt you, I'm not an expert like you, but I've been in this almost 30 years.
It's always, oh, a sunken ship was found, and they're selling you the gold for $100, $300, $400 more than it's worth.
Why not just say, hey, we make a percent here to do this for you.
And the key, you said, was because you're selling at the real market price, you can actually get it to them immediately.
And it's more liquid because it's not in the numismatic realm.
It's a commodity.
Right.
And so that's why it's so important.
Well, that's why you can't just go sell some numismatic you got, and why you almost never get the money you paid for it, because it's a scam, folks.
Sure, there are some collector coins that are great, and the ones I would promote would be where, oh, there's a 10% markup because this is rare and numismatic, and I checked the market and knew people really could go sell it for that.
Okay?
And then I'm like, and by the way, folks, we're making 5% to fund ourselves.
Just be honest.
People know we got to run this place, do all this stuff, but at the same time, we want to get them a good deal.
I want to buy, I want to sell gold and silver to people from where I buy it.
It's real simple.
That's what I do.
And I've not, the industry, I'll be honest, is so freaking corrupt like everything else.
I have not even been able to have a sponsor for 10 years, people.
We've had five different ones we did deals with and I would promote them for one week and then you would hear the brakes slam on because I don't need that in my life.
It's like Tony Montana.
It's a fictional movie based on a composite for stories written by a Great Oliver Stone, and it was a real case of something similar happening, where the guy would kill women and men.
He wouldn't kill women and children.
And at the end, they wanted to blow up a car full of little kids, and he says, I don't need that in my life.
I am not going to have that in my life.
I want you to get a great deal, and everybody should get gold and silver.
It's one of the surest bets out there, and you guys have a great company.
How does it work if somebody calls you guys?
I don't want to get back into the news, the economy, and I know, I digress, but I'm making you plug your company.
If you get in here and you're a sponsor, you don't even do it.
You just go to KEPM.com forward slash gold, fill out a little form and say, I heard Kirk and Alex talking.
It's like, that made a lot of sense.
And you just put in some of your information.
One of my team, I've got a bajillion schedulers, not a bajillion, like 20, I don't
know.
We have a lot of staff to make sure that your needs are met.
So you'll answer some questions like, "What was it that caused you to want to reach out?
What are you trying to accomplish?
What are your goals?
What are your dreams?
What are your fears?"
We listen to you and then we will get you scheduled with one of our consultants where
we'll map out a strategy for success moving forward using precious metals, bullion, gold
and silver, none of this high-grade stuff.
And like I talked about, if you have some of those high-grade collectible pieces of junk, which they are, well then we can help you unwind that most of the time and get you into a place of prosperity.
The best deal, and sometimes the damage is done.
I mean, I talked to an 80-year-old lady once who, she's way too old, unsuitable transaction, paid over $70,000 an ounce for a piece of gold.
It's like, what?
How in the world are you ever going to get out of this, right?
What I like about you is you never say, oh, gold could go to 10,000 ounces or silver to, you know, 500, but gut level, just as a private person, man to man, with this inflation, it's not going, it's going to get worse.
How high do you think gold and silver are in like two years?
Yeah, I mean I'm not God and I don't control the markets, but when you look at what silver did in 2011, 2010-2011, it went from $12 an ounce to $48 an ounce in like a summer and a fall.
I mean it was, that's like what, 400% growth during that time?
So, similar fundamentals to what we're seeing today.
Unsustainable debt, inflationary pressures, political chaos, geopolitical conflict, low inventory at the COMEX.
The central banks are going after gold like there's no tomorrow.
So they may poo-poo gold and silver and say, oh, you want central bank digital currency, you want our paper version, we can use interest rates, we can use money creation monetary policy to stimulate the economy, slow it down, do this and that, and we're really good at it.
No, you've proven over the decades that you're horrible at it and you create boom and bust cycles and you have these inflationary pressures and And what are the big central banks doing?
You never want to invest in anything that's controlled, because you are out of the equation at that point, and logic gets kicked out the window, which is why I like those markets of gold and silver.
Now, here's something really cool, Alex, about silver.
Okay, so manipulation comes when BlackRock, for example, who owns the SLV, which is the silver ETF, they'll go to JPMorgan Chase, which is the custodian of the physical silver that's supposedly backing the ETF, and they say, hey Chase, we just sold 10 million shares of our ETF, we need you to buy 10 million ounces, or whatever, however the mechanics work.
So what is JPMorgan Chase going to do?
They're going to say, let's drive the price down if we have to buy all these ounces, because we want to buy low.
We don't want to buy high.
And they have the ability to do it by shorting the market.
So you issue naked shorts, which means you can short something that you don't own.
Illegal for you and I to do that, but not for big banks.
So they drive the price down.
They gobble up physical silver.
That demand causes the price to go up, and they say, oh, the price is too high, let's issue more short contracts.
They buy up more physical silver.
The demand causes the price to go up.
This has been going on and on and on and on for a long time.
Okay, so if you have a short position active, you make money and a lot of money if the price continues to go down.
If the price of whatever you have a short position on goes up, you lose money hand over fist.
And it's not just a dollar for dollar loss.
It's leveraged.
So when you have a leveraged loss and you've got all of these, I mean literally, a global market with all these short positions, what are they expecting?
They're expecting silver to go through the roof.
How do I know?
Because 50%, 5-0% of all short positions were unwound in a one week span, just a couple weeks ago.
So that tells me they think that silver is going to go through the roof.
Because they have to get rid of their short positions because if they don't, they're going to lose so much money that you couldn't even comprehend it.
So this to me is the biggest news in the silver market ever!
Literally ever!
And what happened last week?
So silver was like at $22.13.
Today it's up over $23.20-ish.
It went up over a dollar in one week.
Today it's up over 2320-ish.
It went up over a dollar in one week.
That's almost a 5% move in one week.
So multiply that out for a year.
That's over a 200% gain for a year.
This is the trend, the pace that we are on.
So what do they know that we don't know?
Why did they unravel their short positions to such a large amount so quickly?
It's because everything that we're adding up here, the inflationary pressures, the Fed basically saying that we can't lower interest rates yet.
We're going to have to pause because coming down the road, we know that inflation is coming and we're going to have to keep raising interest rates to keep slowing down inflation.
But they know that they haven't tackled inflation.
They couldn't lower interest rates yet.
They had to pause them and keep them the same, which is what they've done the last four policy meetings.
They've kept them the same.
So interest rates are going to have to climb to slow down inflation, right?
So what does that tell us?
Inflation is coming.
What happens to tangible assets like gold and silver during inflation?
They go up because they're things.
Things go up with inflation.
I don't care if it's a car.
I don't care if it's oil and gas.
I don't care if it's groceries.
Everybody watching this, you're going to know it's like, yeah, groceries are going through the roof.
We're not making ends meet.
It's hard to even maintain a budget in our house.
Prices are going up.
Inflation is there.
Now, Alex, inflation has been understated for years, since 1996 actually.
So everybody watching this, back after Carter was president, if you're old enough to remember that, he destroyed the economy.
One of the worst financial presidents ever.
Massive recession, dollar was collapsing.
Inflation was at 14.3 percent.
Nobody was working.
They were rationing at the gas pumps.
You had OPEC going crazy.
And it's like, oh my word, this is bad.
So Reagan came in with Paul Volcker, who was chairman of the Fed at the time, and said, hey, we can fix this runaway inflation.
We've got to jack up interest rates to 18 percent.
If you bought a house back then, 30-year mortgage was 18 percent interest rate.
Why?
This is, as an economist, as a PhD economist, I always have to ask why.
It was because inflation was 14.3.
The only way to slow down inflation with interest rates is to actually have the interest rates be higher than the inflation rate.
And that's what they did.
So, fast forward to 1996.
President Clinton at the time commissioned the Boskin Commission in Congress to say, hey, we've got way too many cost of living adjustments going out.
We have to understate inflation.
We have to artificially lower it.
So this is not their words, but this is what the actions did.
It's like, we've got to stick it to the American public.
Everyone that voted for us, we've got to lower the money that we're paying to them so the government can make more money.
So they artificially lowered inflation.
This is very important because it applies to what we're doing today.
So with substitution bias, with all these different price adjustments, they figured out how they can lower inflation.
So when I was doing my first dissertation, I developed a new methodology for measuring inflation because the way that the BLS does it, it's broken.
So, substitution bias.
Let's say the CPI, the Consumer Price Index, is a basket of goods, 30 goods.
Let's say steak is one of those goods, like, you know, filet, prime rib, whatever, steak.
So, if the price of steak goes up 30%, they say, nuts, we don't want this in there anymore.
Let's substitute steak with hamburger.
Hamburger is 40% less than steak.
So, what did they say happened to the price of steak?
They didn't say it went up 30%.
They said the price of steak came down 40% because they substituted it with hamburger.
That means that the inflation numbers that we're seeing are completely bogus, completely manufactured, but if you apply the same metrics that we had in 1983 to today without Clinton's substitution bias, we're hovering at around 15% inflation, which means I don't believe for a second, Alex, that they're going to stop lowering interest rates because they have to get interest rates higher than... Sure, so they know this is coming, and they know silver is going to go up, so they've stopped shorting it.
Yeah, but also you're different because nobody's as articulate as you.
I think, I literally, I told this a year ago, I said, God, I want to help people with silver and gold, we can't get a real company, give me, and literally, then you, I was like, asking you on as a guest, and somebody else goes, hey, this guy wants to be a sponsor, literally an answer prayer.
Yeah, because they think that silver is going to go up.
Why do they think that silver is going to go up?
So, if you're a hedge fund, if you're a big bank and you look at numbers that most people don't look at, The problem is the inflationary pressures, the unsustainable debt, the political chaos, the geopolitical conflict.
Those are the fundamental forces that cause markets to move.
So here's an interesting thing.
The GDP, Gross Domestic Product, which is a reflection, Alex, of everything that you and I buy at stores, everything that everybody watching this is going to stores, paying retail prices, A gross domestic product is that with everything that's manufactured and created in the country.
Yeah, well, yeah, GDP, so they were bragging about this, they wanted to beat the market consensus of 2% growth in the GDP, and they were bragging about it.
It's like, why are you bragging about 2%?
That's not good.
15% is just keeping up with inflation.
Wow.
So at 2% that tells me the economy is actually shrinking.
By the way, you showed this a month ago when you were on.
It's my fault.
I should tell the crew.
What graph do they pull up from Zero Hedge or Dow Jones that shows how Biden's created more money when he's been in office than it was ever created before?
Yeah, and so there's, you've got a couple of graphs you could look at.
You could look at the debt, you could look at money supply, but money supply is starting to trick people because a few years ago they stopped measuring total money supply.
So, from 1776 until 1980 when Reagan became president, you know, that's 204 years.
1776 until 1980 when Reagan became president You know that's two hundred and four years. We went there's
the graph. Yeah, we went from zero to okay, this
This is very important.
We went from zero to almost a trillion dollars worth of debt in 204 years.
The budget, Biden's stinking budget for 2024 has over 2.5 trillion dollars of deficit.
2.5 trillion dollars.
Well, it took us 204 years to accumulate almost a trillion and he's adding 2.5 plus trillion
in just one year.
They're spending like drunken sailors.
So how do you do that?
Now that chart that you're looking at there, that's actually money supply.
That's money that's being printed, right?
So the M2 money supply going through the roof, that's money in your checking account, savings account, money markets.
Now you see at the tail end of that that it's starting to come down.
What does that show me?
Because they're printing money like there's no tomorrow, but that's a different money supply that they stopped creating.
This money is money that's in the bank, which tells me banks are under-capitalized, they're starting to pull money out of the system in exchange and preparing for central bank digital currency.
Because you can't have digital money parallel with paper money, because one is private, and the big boys are pulling back to protect themselves.
The last time we saw this kind of M2 money supply shrinking was the Great Depression.
But that was something different.
So what we have this time is money is leaving the system, Alex, because they're preparing us for a digital currency.
You can't have a digital currency that they want to control every aspect of your buying, selling, all of your ideology, everything, and still have paper money at the same time, because paper money is private.
When you spend a $20 bill, nobody knows it was you.
That's what they're trying to get away from.
But here's where the unsustainability of the system that we're in, which is why I think we are so close to collapse, $2.50 of debt spending to get $1 of GDP growth.
So as 2024 rolls into an election, what do I think is going to happen?
I think we're going to see a crisis.
Probably like nothing we've ever seen.
I think we're going to see banking crisis.
I think we're going to see interest rates continue to climb, which means people are not going to be able to pay their bills.
They're not going to be able to sustain their debt.
They're not going to be able to feed their family, right?
I'm painting a picture that looks grim because it really is, but here's where, this is where they want the picture, what they want the picture to look like.
Because in an election year, politicians do what, Alex?
They promise the moon.
And they promise other people's money to get votes.
You know, you and I have talked about this before and I know that you're a massive student of history and you love the Roman Republic and the fall of Rome and talking about that, but this started back then, right?
Rome fell when the encumbrances, when the weight of the entitlement system buried them.
They couldn't keep up with it and that was one-third of Rome was on government assistance at that time when Rome fell.
We are now at over eighty percent Of everything that we bring in as a nation goes towards entitlement.
Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Women, Infant, Children, Programs, Food Stamps, all those handouts, right?
Social Security is a mandatory payment.
It's not an entitlement.
If you're paying into it your whole life, you should expect to get something out of it.
But you can't take it away because it's really easy in today's society to give, really hard to take away, right?
So in an election year, You're going to see promises of other people's money.
You're going to see promises of everything to get votes.
And I think this is where we start to see the unraveling.
Because as interest rates continue to climb, that starts with delinquencies.
People being late on their payments.
Delinquencies over time end up in default.
When you have too many defaults at banks, they start to go under.
This is why I think we're going to see, number one this year, another systemic bank failure.
And it's going to be a lot of them this time.
I think it's going to be something bigger.
I think people are going to start giving away their freedoms in exchange for perceived security
and risk because of it.
I think that the BRICS nations are going to really start to flex and pull away petrodollar
status because they're trading in 70% of the world's trading block.
I mean, it's a huge trading block, 70% of the world's population, not using the US dollar, but using their currency.
That means demand for the dollar goes away, which means they're going to print like no tomorrow, right?
When we lose reserve currency status, the end result is simple.
We end up like Argentina, Venezuela, Cyprus, Greece, Zimbabwe, you name a country that's gone through a massive inflationary spiral, we are going to be no different than them.
It's impossible to be different from them when you don't have built-in demand from your currency.
And I hate to say this, because I'm an American.
I love this country.
I'm a patriot.
I want the dollar to be strong, but there's no way that it can be under current policies.
And this is where we're headed this year.
So I think under that, you know, it was Rahm Emanuel that said, never let a good crisis go to waste, right?
They're going to let this crisis work in their favor.
So they can actually start to strip away freedoms.
This is where I see America headed and I don't want anybody watching this to actually operate in fear, have your head in the sand thinking like an ostrich in a windstorm saying, hopefully if I just hide this and I don't think about it, it's going to go away.
No, if you do that, you probably should be scared because I think that you'll fail.
But if you take action See, if you take action, allocate into tangible assets like gold and silver to get out of the paper, get out of the digital assets that make you a digital slave in their digital world.
This is where you can actually start to just thrive and have a smile on your face.
So this is gold and silver.
One of the weird things, Alex, where not only is it a good investment, but I think it's the ultimate protector against loss of financial privacy, against loss of financial freedom.
And that's why I'm shouting it from the rooftops.
To anybody that will listen because I believe, you know, being a PhD economist and putting these puzzle pieces together of the economy, of politics, of personal freedoms, of religious freedoms, all being stripped away from us, right?
If you put all those together, it paints a good picture of where we are in our society and political consequences are having economic implications which are going to basically result in societal change.
This is where I think that we're headed.
Massive societal disruption this year.
We're already seeing it in Texas.
We're already seeing that in Denver, for example, where I live.
This migrant crisis, Alex, is creating a fiscal cliff that we're about to fall off of.
By the way, you hit something five minutes ago, because I'm running around behind the scenes here while you're talking, saying that clip's amazing, get that out, do this.
But you explain, they admit they're crashing the system to bring in social control to the central major currencies.
This is not speculation, they're doing this.
This is making us poor to control us.
So the answer is people need to be prosperous, at least positioned to protect themselves for their own autonomy.
Well, yeah, so, and I can show people... Yeah, go through all the rest of your stuff here.
They have bail-in stuff, but this Uniform Commercial Code Article 8 basically changed ownership so during that crisis they needed your assets to be collateral so they could pay off all their derivatives debt.
So on this, what happened?
You changed ownership from you to the bank of your assets, and you became a beneficial owner, which sounds kind of sweet and kind of nice, but it's not.
Because when you put money in the bank, this is where people think, Money in the bank is safe.
No, it's not.
When you deposit a hundred bucks, basically you're giving it to them, they become the owner, you're a beneficial owner, and they will let you use it if you want to.
But you're just hoping that your money is there when you want to withdraw it.
The banks are hoping that not everybody wants to withdraw it at the same time, because they have a zero-profit service provider.
So March of 2023, the United Nations, our Common Agenda Policy Brief.
So the Secretary General of the UN.
basically said they're convening to operationalize automatically an emergency platform in the event of a future complex global shock of sufficient scale, severity, and reach.
Everyone's going to double-cross everybody, right?
But here's where they tell us in the next paragraph, we don't have to think or speculate about what a global shock of sufficient scale, severity, and reach could be because they say, what is that?
The emergency authority can be convened including a major climatic event, a future pandemic risk, a global digital connectivity disruption, a major event in outer space, and generic unforeseen risks like Black Swan.
Meaning, if you wanted to send me money... So the Federal Reserve is saying, and the WF is saying, if we don't agree with you, we don't let you transfer money.
In their own words, this is all about people control, right?
So then, you go to June 20th of 2023.
Now it starts to get to, well, if we don't like you, in the blueprint of the financial monetary system, improving the old, enabling the new, unified ledger, this is the UN's blueprint, what do they say?
A unified ledger means they can tokenize all of your assets into a packet.
And to one like chunk.
And in that, you can have your house, you can have your stock, your bonds, your mutual funds, your bank account, your savings accounts.
No, and they can change it with the flip of a switch.
They can change ownership.
Well, good grief.
This goes back to that law after the 2009 crisis where you become a beneficial owner.
Now it's all making sense.
So they're applying these laws, putting them together.
Unified ledger.
Applies to beneficial ownership where you don't own anything and you're gonna like it in their words, right?
So so there's where we are there now, June 27th through 29th of 2023 During the 14th annual meeting of the new champions in Tianjin, China Cornell University professor Aswar Prasad shared his thoughts on the impending disappearance of physical currency they're bragging about all of this right so now What are future dates coming up?
Future dates, September 15th of 2024, the UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres' vision for the future, global biometric ID tied to all bank accounts.
So now all bank accounts are going to be digital, tied up to you, your biometric, whether it's a fingerprint, whether it's whatever, eye, retinal scan, we don't know.
And then you go to September 22nd through 24th of 2024, that's this year, UN pact for the future, this is the date the globalists want to share their commenced plan to the world.
So their timeline is established.
We are just repeating it, right?
We're just repeating and sharing that news.
So, as a theologian, you know, as a, you know, having my PhD in theology, Alex, I look at this.
Revelation 13, 17 says, in those days, you know, no man, woman, or child will be able to buy or sell unless they have the mark, you know.
So, what is that?
It's like theologians throughout time are saying, what is the Mark of the Beast?
So here's where I have a message of hope in this, because people freak out and say, Kirk, Central Bank Digital Currency, it's the mark of the beast, this is the end of time, this is terrible.
It's like, does that verse actually say that it's the only game in town?
She was spouting off about Trump saying Trump is the biggest fear of the globalists because if he gets back in and the globalists... That's out of the EU.
Yes.
So they're afraid of Trump because why?
He's not part of the globalist system.
He's not just going to... He said I'll shut down central bank digital currencies.
Yeah, I mean, that's probably what they're going to do.
But what we have to do is spread this message far and wide, like what you're doing every single day.
I mean, this is your calling.
It's your anointing.
It's your gifting, Alex.
Ours is on the financial side.
And I want to bring peace in the midst of the storm to people's financial lives.
Right, so there's a story in the Gospels where there's this raging sea, this storm on the Sea of Galilee, right?
And Jesus is out there walking on water, and so for all of you people who read the Bible, you know the story, but Peter wakes up in the midst of the storm and he's out there and says, Jesus, you're walking on water, what are you doing out there?
Yeah, I mean, there's really, you never want to go into that stuff, ever.
Low cost, and we're in silver right now, because it's outperforming gold, and we can take advantage... You were on months ago saying silver's about to go up, and it did!
It did!
And we're going to see even more because of the manufacturing demand.
Alex, this is what's wild to me.
In the worst global economy we've seen in over 40 years, maybe ever, The demand for silver is through the roof because it's used in electronics, it's used in EVs, electric vehicles, solar, fuel cell technology, all of it.
What we didn't even get into, which we can talk about next time we do a show, state pensions are running out of money.
So if you've got a retirement and a state pension, it's like, oh my word, call us because we can possibly roll that out into an IRA denominated in gold and silver.
I'm going to edit this down to an hour for my weekday show.
Come on the 15 minutes before it and we'll talk about the state pension funds.
Because that's a question, without you bringing it up, our bankruptcy of some US states in the future, that's being talked about in the Wall Street Journal.
They're operating at such a high level in their mitochondria.
This is an energy production, oxygen, um, necessary disease because athletes are running They're constricted.
They're working so that the blood flows and it doesn't flow, which is why your nitric oxide product, that new product, I hope you'll show it because that's a very important thing to have for acute events.
It dissolves under the tongue, gives you an instant relaxing of your endothelium, your vasculature.
