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In this podcast episode, Alex Jones discusses the importance of supporting free speech systems like Infowars as they face potential censorship and legal challenges. He also addresses concerns over jury selection fairness in high-profile cases and highlights the need for an impartial jury that has not been exposed to media coverage of the case. Additionally, he emphasizes the significance of trial by jury in preserving democracy and protecting our freedoms and liberties in America. The discussion touches upon defamation laws and their application in cases like Alex Jones's involving the Sandy Hook tragedy. Lastly, he promotes various health supplements and tax advice to fund the operation of InfoWars."

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Ladies and gentlemen, there have been a lot of important broadcasts in Infowars history.
I myself have had a lot of very important broadcasts in my eight years here at Infowars,
but perhaps on this Monday, July 25, 2022, at least for the issue of free speech, or
on the issue of, does Alex Jones even get to exist and have a platform and have a voice
and be on the air?
As far as those issues are concerned, this might be the biggest transmission in Infowars
history.
Now, Owen Schreuer sitting in for Alex today, it's an honor, and I will be sitting in for
Alex for the foreseeable future, because Alex Jones is in court this week and next week
and who knows how long, fighting for free speech for America and fighting for Infowars
to continue to go on.
Let me lay out the basics here for you and we'll get into the gruesome details coming
up the rest of the way in the first hour with legal expertise coverage of what's about to
go down, then in the second hour we'll have the legal experts in studio with me as well.
But Alex Jones is going to be in court, in fact, I'm going to be in court some of these
days as well, and so imagine how many other news outlets have to deal with that, none
really.
In fact, there's really two other people I would say in media that deal with the political
persecution anywhere close to the level of us here, and that's obviously Steve Bannon
and Roger Stone and what they've had to go through.
But so Alex Jones now in court all week fighting for his right to free speech and for America's
right to free speech, and a lot of people may say, hey, that's not fair to say, that's
not accurate to say.
Alex Jones is in court for things that he said and he does, that has nothing to do with
the free speech issue in America.
Well, you'd be horribly mistaken if you fell for that lie, you'd be horribly mistaken.
Now, again, we're going to go to the legal experts on this, so you don't have to hear
my opinion as somebody that's involved or as a talk show host here with interest in
the matter.
You'll hear what the legal experts have to say coming up.
But let me just ask you a question.
Let's put it in the context of a question.
If you had a radical liberal that was a judge and that judge got an Alex Jones case in
front of them, do you think they would be responding to the case from a perspective
of I need to put away any biases that I have and I need to make sure that justice is done
here and that we have a true, fair proceeding here?
Or do you think that liberal might say, I've got Alex Jones in front of me, I've got one
shot to destroy him, I've got one shot to destroy Info Wars, I'm going to take it?
Now, let's just say that's a hypothetical question, how do you think that would go?
And then depending on how that would go or how that potentially does go, you don't think
that has implications for the rest of America.
You don't think that has implications for the rest of the media.
If an activist judge can just decide they don't like you and they're going to destroy
you, and then that becomes precedent.
If you don't see how that's dangerous for the future of this country, and if you don't
see how that's dangerous for the future of free speech, then you're blind.
So when we come back, we're going to be hearing legal experts take first response to what's
about to go down in court, but folks understand this, there's a reason why Alex Jones has
been saying more than ever, this could be our last transmission.
So I'll expand on that a little further before we go to the lawyers here on the Alex Jones
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Ladies and gentlemen, I will be filling in for Alex for the foreseeable future.
We're really not sure.
It depends on how these court things go.
Alex is in court today for the foreseeable future as well.
I'm also going to have to be in court.
So even my exposure is going to be limited in the upcoming weeks as well.
But to pick it up where I left off in the first opening segment here, a lot of people
have been commenting and you may have noticed more than ever Alex comes on air and says
this could be our last broadcast.
And while we did have financial problems and we were having problems funding ourselves,
here the crew and everybody, we were able to assure that we could be funded through
the summer with some of the sales we had, getting some products back in stock and having
the money bomb and some generous donors.
That all went down earlier this year in the beginning of spring.
And we basically said this was a big success.
The audience has done it again.
We've now got funding through the summer.
So we took care of some of the financial stuff as far as that being a major issue, at least
through the summer.
So we said, hey, we've got the funding now.
We can stay on till the summer.
And that's when we're going to have our next big challenge, which is the legal challenge.
Now we're going to hear from legal experts in this hour some of the gruesome details
of what is about to happen in this court case going on all week and next week and for the
foreseeable future.
Then we're going to have Robert Barnes in studio with follow up coverage and some of
the latest breaking stuff as it begins.
But there's a couple of things that are key to understanding.
One is there is no other media outlet that goes through what we go through.
And that's not because we're criminals.
That's not because we're bad people.
That's not because we've done anything wrong.
It's because we are really going head to head, toe to toe, intellectually, philosophically,
politically against the criminals that run this planet and have plans for world domination
and depopulation.
And they know we're one of the biggest threats standing in their way just as a populist voice
as a voice of reason and truth and hope and patriotism and everything else.
And so that's why Infowars or Alex Jones better yet must be made an example of must
be destroyed.
Now here's an example.
We've got a fantastic crew here.
We've got an unbelievable multimedia operation here, but crew probably hasn't been given
a raise in a long time, and they try to get judgments against me, and they say, we're
going to get millions of dollars out of Owen Shroyer.
We're going to get millions of dollars.
Folks, I don't have millions of dollars.
To be quite honest with you, I don't even have close to a million dollars.
But see, they see what we do here.
They see our audience size, and then they just do a compare.
They compare to other people in media to see what they're making, and they say, there's
no way Owen Shroyer doesn't have a million dollars with his audience and what he's done.
He has a million dollars.
We're going to find it.
We're going to get it.
They do the research.
They have all my records.
They have everything.
There's no million dollars.
We're not in it for money, folks.
We're not in it for fame.
We're not in it for fortune.
Never has been that way.
Never will be that way.
When I like millions of dollars or I like beachfront properties all around the world
like all these great liberals, of course I would.
I'd rather live in a free country with the opportunity for prosperity than to have all
that momentarily.
So just understand, there's a reason why info wars is target number one.
There's a reason why Alex Jones is in court today, in my opinion, fighting for not only
his right to free speech, but for the rights of free speech for all Americans.
Now, here's a basic recap and introduction from the Barnes Free Podcast that we're going
to be going to for the rest of the hour because, forget about my opinion, let's go to the legal
experts who are covering this case.
So here is the Barnes and Free Podcast, just an introduction of what is coming up here,
what Alex Jones, what info wars, what America is up against in the coming weeks in these
important times, these perilous times for free speech for info wars and for America.
We'll get to everything, but let's start with the Alex Jones trial coming up.
We're going to go over some stuff that we've already talked about in the past.
How is it that Jones has been declared guilty on the merits by default?
Yeah, it's extraordinary.
So the suit that is going to trial this week in Austin, Texas and Travis County is by two
plaintiffs who were the parents of a child who died at Sandy Hook.
They sued Alex Jones on theories of defamation and intentional infliction of emotional distress.
Even though Alex Jones, as I recall, never mentioned them by name ever or said factually
specific things about them by name ever.
So it was a unique case in that regard, but the Texas Austin Court of Appeals basically
established a perilous new precedent for speech in media in America, which was that
if you say something that the government doesn't agree with and somebody is upset or offended
by what you said and they have some connection at any level to the event, then you can be
sued for intentional infliction of emotional distress without actually targeting any speech
at them individually.
So that was the first extraordinary development in his case.
In this case, that's going to trial.
The second one is the media mythology about the case, and often the plaintiff's lawyers
repeatedly lie about the nature of the evidence in the case, is the mythology is that Alex
Jones instigated and initiated and originated the hypothesis that Sandy Hook did not happen
at all.
That is completely and utterly false.
99% of what Infowars printed, published, or broadcast concerning Sandy Hook acknowledged
and admitted that the event occurred, that the children died, that it took place, who
the shooter was.
The questions that Infowars primarily and Alex Jones primarily raised concern the culpability
of Big Pharma and whether SSRI drugs were the appropriate medication, the questions
about the psychiatric treatment of young men in America, the celebration of gun violence
by gaming and Hollywood culture, and the potential culpability and complicity in local police
response times and local politicians in the school safety arena providing adequate safety
mechanisms for the children.
And he said that they were going to wrongfully blame the gun and the law-abiding rights and
Second Amendment rights of ordinary Americans as the culprit for these traumatic and tragic
deaths.
Midway through, several years after Sandy Hook, some callers would call in and they raised
questions about whether the deaths happened at all, and Jones responded in a way that
could be interpreted as agreeing with their comments.
That is the primary basis of the suit.
About of the 7 million plus words broadcast by, plus words, broadcast or published by
Infowars and Alex Jones, they've taken about less than 30 minutes of words scattered out
over a 7-year time frame and are saying that is the entire basis of their emotional trauma.
What is the second significant factor about this case that is also extraordinary is that
it's one of the only defamation cases ever brought where the plaintiffs did not timely
seek a correction or retraction.
Indeed, they didn't seek it until the eve of trial itself, the eve of suit itself.
And so you have people saying that they were horribly traumatized by the words of Alex
Jones, yet showed no evidence that they even heard the words of Alex Jones at the time.
And if they were so traumatized, why didn't they write a single correction or retraction
request for years?
The other factor that's interesting about this case is that many of the plaintiffs involved
are very political.
They have people running for political office, they've campaigned for gun control, they clearly
oppose Alex Jones on political grounds, the lawyers involved are all highly political
and have pursued this case for political reasons and have explicitly said their purpose of
the suit is to try to shut down and censor Alex Jones for good.
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Taking a frontal assault on the lies of the New World Order, it's Alex Jones.
Imagine you're in a courtroom to defend yourself and the judge says, shut up, you're not allowed
to defend yourself.
Wouldn't be a pretty good feeling, would it?
No, that would be pretty gut wrenching, pretty stomach sinking.
If that happened to you, let's hope it never would.
Let's hope it doesn't happen to Alex Jones.
Here's more from the Barnes Free Podcast.
Now what's even more extraordinary about this case is that Alex Jones is being prevented
from presenting any substantive defense on the legal merits.
He's not being allowed to defend himself on whether or not he said what they claim he
said.
He's not being allowed to defend the context in which those words were said.
He's not allowed to present all everything else that he said.
He is not even allowed to say that his conduct wasn't outrageous.
He's not even allowed to say that he is innocent.
He is not even allowed to say that he sees this as a First Amendment issue.
In fact, the words First Amendment and free speech, he cannot even come out of his mouth
or any witness's mouth or his lawyer's mouth through the entire trial.
Not only that, the case is being limited to damages and the judge has instructed that
the jury is not allowed to hear from Alex Jones or his lawyers about whether the emotional
trauma they'll hear about these parents suffering had something to do with the person who shot
their kids.
That's not allowed to come up.
The jury is going to be left with the impression that this horrible trauma that these parents
have suffered, the only person they're being allowed to blame is Alex Jones.
In addition, Alex Jones has been denied his rights to bring motions to dismiss, denied
his right to bring motions under the strategic litigation against public participation law,
denied his rights to bring summary judgment motions, denied his rights to appeal summary
judgment motions, denied his rights in some cases to appeal a motion to dismiss.
It is unparalleled and unprecedented the sequence of actions that have taken place.
This case makes a Stasi or Soviet style show trial look like an emblem of fairness by comparison.
Last but not least, the judge presiding over the case here in Austin, Texas, was identified
in the press as previously working as private counsel associated with children protective
services.
What I can tell you that typically means, don't know yet whether it means that is to
this judge, but typically that means a judge who defends pedophiles, a judge who defends
child abusers.
That's the judge presiding over the Alex Jones case.
This case is a case where the American judicial system is really on trial and unfortunately
the verdict looks like it will be a damnation of that system even though the goal is to
issue such a crazy verdict that they are able to completely take Alex Jones off the
air.
Robert, so this is the question.
So many actually because intentional infliction of emotional distress conceptually I can understand.
They're already going through trauma because I want everyone to understand this.
It's a horrible, horrible incident.
It's horror of the purest form.
Nothing about a defensive Alex Jones is intended to be construed as denying it happened, denying
the trauma of everyone who survived that and the parents who lost his none of that.
This is a grotesque incident where the grotesqueness of the incident is not going to be somehow
attenuated by railroading some podcaster radio host who might have said some things which
could have been a little over the top from time to time or even overtly over the top.
The idea here is that you have Alex Jones is known for pushing the envelope of questioning
narratives, floating hypotheses which are tenable sometimes, untenable other times.
The emotional distress might have been aggravated and someone comes out and says, you're lying,
you never even had a kid.
That can cause emotional distress and if they do it at a loud enough bullhorn, they can
cause emotional distress, I understand that.
Nonetheless, the idea to deny Alex the ability to defend and this was purportedly on the
basis for having defaulted or violated his obligations of disclosure under depositions?
Yeah, I mean, what's amazing is Alex Jones has produced more documents and sat for more
hours of more testimony as have other people in the case on behalf of Info Wars than any
media defendant I've ever heard of and yet, even though he's turned over his text, he's
turned over his emails, turned over stuff that was sent to a junk email box, turned
over all kinds of documents and information, they said that he didn't turn over enough
and they called him default.
Now, here's the real secret behind this and why I predicted that this was a risk from
day one and for those out there, I am not currently representing Alex Jones, so I am
free to speak my mind.
They're already, apparently I've heard that the plaintiff's lawyers are complaining about
me speaking out about the case.
That's how corrupt these plaintiff's lawyers are.
They're political hacks standing on the bodies of dead kids to line their pockets and take
away other people's political rights.
And I find it disgusting what they've done.
And so, but in this particular context, Jones has produced more discovery than anybody.
I can't find anyone that's produced more discovery than he is and yet, they pretended
that he didn't.
Why?
Because they built their whole case on a big lie.
Alex Jones didn't initiate and instigate any of this, number one.
And number two, their big lie was that Alex Jones became famous and made his money because
he lied about this, totally and utterly false.
So what do you do when you know the evidence is going to disprove your theory?
The financial evidence and documentary evidence and the email evidence.
Well, you pretend it existed, but Alex Jones must have secretly destroyed it.
That's why they had to go this path.
Their whole case was built on a lie.
The judges knew it and the judges in order to cover up that lie needed to facilitate
it and promote it by pretending he destroyed documents he never did.
He was in fact deposed and he was deposed time and time again.
Exactly.
Many, many times.
I think he sat for like eight days or something and that doesn't include everybody else for
info wars.
He sat for day after day after day after day after day after day of deposition.
They turned over emails that they shouldn't even had to turn over.
They were sent emails in their spam email where someone was trying to plant child CP
on their computer system and because they turned over all of their emails, anything they'd
never got, even if they'd never read it, then they were accused by the plaintiff's lawyers
of sending CP to the families.
Utterly false.
Another big fat lie by the lawyers in the media.
That's how much he turned over and like when you dig down and try to get to what exactly
it was he didn't turn over, it ends up being very weak.
And by the way, that's not the default staters in America.
I have never seen a default judgment issued in America on these grounds ever.
It's supposed to be specific to the specific fact that wasn't turned over.
That issue can be, if they weren't able to independently acquire the evidence, that fact
can be admitted against them.
That's not what this judge has done.
This judge has not allowed him to defend himself on the substantive merits based on a made-up
theory of the plaintiff's lawyers that the judges knew was false, had reason to know
was false.
And in order to cover it up and punish and prosecute Alex Jones, they need to do this.
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Alex Jones admits he made mistakes about his Sandy Hook reporting.
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Leading a frontal assault on the lies of the New World Order, it's Alex Jones.
Broadcasting live from the U.N. stronghold, Austin, Texas, you're listening to the Alex
Jones show and now your host, Owen Troyer.
You know the media likes to attack Alex Jones and they show you a portrait of Alex with
his head on fire.
Like, oh wow, you know, he must be crazy because he's passionate and rambunctious about the
issues and the topics he covers.
Like for example, when Alex Jones is covering free speech issues in the digital marketplace,
yeah, Alex's head is on fire or at least you might think listening because he understood
it before most others, the implications of censorship on the Internet.
He understood that if it was going to be Alex Jones, that was the test case, that it would
only be the beginning and so he was up here as a firebrand saying, if they censor me,
they censor you next and then they censored him and there was barely any backlash.
In fact, even most Republicans supported it, including on Fox News, who have an issue with
censorship now, unironically, but you see, we understood Alex was the test case then
for censorship on the Internet.
Now you see where we're at four years later.
Even the president of the United States gets censored, Congress members get censored, everybody
getting censored.
This case that Alex is going through now is the next test case.
So just like we were all Alex Jones dealing with Internet censorship, now we're all Alex
Jones dealing with free speech rights and really just basic legal principles and justice
in a courtroom, so everybody should be concerned about this case more from the legal experts
on why.
People have to appreciate that.
He's been foreclosed from pleading on the basis of default for failure to produce documents,
whatever.
He's been deposed multiple times and again, everybody, this is not to defend Alex Jones.
This is to defend the process that needs to be respected in order for there to be justice
and not literally judgments in the absence of defense because that's not a system anymore.
That's just an execution and Alex Jones admitted that he said things that were wrong.
I brought up one chat, which is actually, I think quite on point, winning reality says
Alex was set up yet the disinformation was calculated and organized.
The calls were mostly strategy.
They pulled him in the direction they wanted him to go.
Alex got so big, he disconnected from his face, maybe not that, but the idea that, look,
we know how agitators can work, how, as Jean Provocateur can work, knowing what they wanted
to do, get someone to call in, get them to run with it.
You get the sound bite and you get Alex Jones saying something like crisis actors, which
would imply that their kids were not actually killed or that they're acting.
That's distressing.
I'd appreciate that that's distressing.
What would be the defenses I'd like to hear on the merits?
What would be the quantum of the damages?
It has to be realistically correlated to what's going on.
Is the distressing part that somebody you're going to call a kook or a wacko says you're
crisis actors and not the fact that your actual child was killed in this incident?
Put a quantum on it, but there has to be a process that has to be respected.
And if it's not respected, you no longer have a judicial system.
You just have show trials like we saw with Steve Bannon.
Exactly.
Well, that may be a good bridge into Bannon.
So the trial happened this week.
He was here to cover it.
I may be in and out of the courtroom, depending on circumstances.
Again, I'm not official counsel of record for the Connecticut lawyers and others that
may be listening out there, but I'm not going to be silenced just because they would like
me to be.
Now, who knows?
These judges are capable of crazy things.
They try crazy things.
I will seek my relief and remedy accordingly.
But it's a sign of where we are or act, and more people should be more concerned with
this case, regardless of what they think about Sadie Hook, regardless of what they think
about Alex Jones, because this is about the American judicial system looking like an embarrassment,
just like the January 6 cases and as a good bridge, just like the disgrace of a case that
was the Steve Bannon trial.
And just one thing before we get there, Robert, the idea that a lot of people have never heard
of Alex Jones until Sandy Hook, a lot of people in the mainstream did it.
And I remember I only knew vaguely of Alex Jones because Howard Stern made fun of him
from time to time.
So at the time of Sandy Hook, I do remember what Alex Jones was saying, talking about
a hoax.
They were walking around the school as if it was a drill, floating the idea, entertaining
a caller, talking about crisis actors.
People were saying there were lies about Sandy Hook.
I'll go with the plausible scenario now that we've lived through a uvaldi, that maybe the
reason why they rushed to destroy the school was to hide the fact that it didn't have
basic safety protocol.
I can appreciate that argument, which some people might call conspiracy theory and others
might just call liability theory.
But most people didn't know about Alex Jones in the mainstream until this.
They put him in the crosshairs and they're making an example of him, and the question
is, Robert, what do you think is reasonable that can be expected by way of any condemnation
for the quantum?
Well, I see it as a threefold question because one is, the statute of limitations should
have barred these claims, Texas law requires you to make a correction or a retraction request
before suit that didn't happen here.
So procedurally, this case never should have been brought, period.
It should have been dismissed right out of the gate.
Secondly, the constitutional requirement of colloquium means that you have to make a specific
factual statement about a specifically identified individual.
Now sometimes you can identify that individual by image or by association rather than by
name, but here there are too many people involved for someone to be, for them to know that it
was about that person.
Third, it has to be credible.
So historically, it was your friends or others have to believe it's true about you or it
doesn't function as defamation.
It doesn't impact your character.
Here, there's no evidence that happened at all.
There's no evidence that anybody in their community really believed that they were not
real.
And in fact, the very nature of saying someone's not real is not necessarily attacking that
person because you're saying they're not real in the first place.
You're saying that's somebody else up there.
So this does not fit the definition of defamation procedurally and never should have been allowed
under the law.
And constitutionally, it didn't meet the standard under the First Amendment right to protection
of freedom of speech and the press.
And I agree.
The real story here was the reason why so many people were suspicious about what happened
was in part because the Obama administration chose to politically weaponize it and politicize
it.
They said that people connected to them said they were going to stand on the literally
said they're going to stand on the graves of these dead kids to get gun control in America
to strip people of their Second Amendment rights.
That led to a lot of people being suspect because of the history of government false
flags when they try to take away people's rights.
And the other aspect was the very peculiar behavior of the politicians in Connecticut
who were hiding information from their sunshine laws.
It turned out what they were hiding was pertinent to Uvaldi in that because if the truth had
come out, the politicians would have been would have been properly judged and school
safety would have dramatically improved in America.
But gun control would have failed as an agenda.
So they were willing to sacrifice more kids' lives to get gun control in America.
And because what was it they didn't do?
They didn't have a basic mechanism to lock the doors from the inside.
And because they couldn't, I mean, they found the kids stacked up in bathrooms, folks.
These kids would not have been dead had they had basic safety mechanisms in place.
The school politicians and they got away with it.
And they got away with it because the courts let them get away with it.
They got away with it because the Obama administration let them get away with it.
They got away with it because the media let them get away with it.
And part of this whole case is to blame Alex Jones for Sandy Hook when it was the school
politicians who led to Sandy Hook happening at the scale it did and probably had something
to do with Uvaldi.
They didn't want people raising questions about school safety, didn't raise, but don't
ask any questions about whether the politicians stuffed cash in their pockets rather than
spend it on kid safety.
They didn't want to ask questions about police response times.
They didn't want questions about Big Pharma.
They didn't want questions about the kid who committed the shooting about his poor mental
health treatment.
They didn't want questions about being able to have guns like the person in Indiana, constitutional
carry.
And he had Kyle Rittenhouse level accuracy.
And that's why a lot of lives are alive today in Indiana because he exercised that constitutional
right to carry and took that guy out with some of the best shooting anybody seen since
Kyle Rittenhouse.
Fifteen seconds, 40 to 15 meters away with a hand held pistol and the CNN ran the headline
an armed pedestrian and not a damn hero.
But okay.
Exactly.
So that I mean, that's why we're at or this is a scary show trial in America.
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Meeting of frontal assault on the lies of the New World Order, it's Alex Jones.
So here's the new Democrat strategy.
Declare somebody guilty in the court of public opinion, just in general, not even on the
basics of a certain issue or topic.
Just in general, this person is guilty in the court of public opinion.
They're bad, they're guilty, and they run all their propaganda and they run all their
hit pieces.
You could say Alex Jones is an example.
You could say Donald Trump is an example.
You could say Steve Bannon, Roger Stone.
You could show the examples.
So they just declare you guilty, you're bad in the court of public opinion.
And when they get you in a courtroom, they just say, oh, you're guilty.
And that's the new process.
So innocent until proven guilty, a cornerstone of our legal system, a cornerstone of justice
in this country, innocent until proven guilty, is being thrown out the window now.
And we all know why.
So whether you love Alex Jones or you hate Alex Jones, if you don't understand the
implications of saying innocent until proven guilty, no longer applies here, innocent until
proven guilty, we're going to take that cornerstone out of our justice and legal system foundation.
If you don't understand how that hurts you, if you don't understand how that goes beyond
Alex Jones, whether you love him or hate him, then you have been blinded.
You have been lobotomized and you have been propagandized into celebrating your own demise.
And a lot of that goes on specifically in reference to liberals and Democrats.
They celebrate getting rid of the First Amendment.
They celebrate getting rid of the Second Amendment.
And they don't even understand how they're celebrating their own demise.
It's incredible levels of propaganda.
And they just think, oh, we got Alex Jones.
I got Alex Jones.
Not even a victory for them.
They don't know Alex Jones.
They don't even listen to Alex Jones.
They don't know anything about Alex Jones.
But they just are told, Alex Jones is bad.
And if we get Alex Jones, that's a victory for me.
Even if I have to sacrifice my own prosperity, my own future, my own rights, I got Alex Jones,
I feel accomplished.
Not understanding how Alex's fate is their own fate.
So we go back to the legal experts now again on why people should be concerned about this
case.
So I'm here to defend Alex Jones in the court of public opinion because I believe in him
because Alex Jones is innocent of a lot of the claims that have been made against him.
And when we get to damages, even if you say, OK, I think this case should still sort of
gone on, I don't believe in the constitutional defense, I don't believe in the procedural
defense, I don't believe in the statutory rights, OK, how much money is Alex Jones supposed
to pay?
Some of the people that are suing are not even related to people who died there.
Is everybody supposed to just start getting big checks, big checks, even though they never
complained at the time about Alex Jones?
I mean, we kind of all know that these are fraudulent complaints.
These people didn't suffer great emotional trauma because of what Alex Jones said they're
lying about.
And they think, I mean, I suffer a lot of tragedies in my lifetime.
You know what?
That doesn't give me a right to line my pockets with other people's money, and it doesn't
give me the right to take away other people's rights.
And everybody's scared because like, man, these people suffered a horrible trauma.
Again, some of the people suing didn't.
Some of them are just like FBI guys and what a crock.
But for those that did suffer a horrible trauma, yeah, that's terrible.
It doesn't give you the right to line your pockets with other people's money.
For trauma, you know, you didn't really suffer because of what they said, and it doesn't
give you or the right to take away other people's rights, the freedom of speech, freedom of
the press, and the Second Amendment just because you don't like what happened.
And so at some point trauma, this victim identification idea that, hey, I'm a victim.
I'm now morally superior.
I'm a victim.
Now I get to dictate to everybody what's going to happen with their rights.
Now I get to demand money from other people like reparations, like other things.
I don't agree with that as a fundamental premise.
And it's scared too many people off from defending Alex Jones in these cases because
they're like, geez, I don't want to be on the side against the Sandy Hook parents.
And I'm just, I'm tired of it, to be honest with you.
No, no, and Robert, I can tell you like the pushback I got from even the prospect of having
Alex Jones on for a sidebar with you, people, people just have a misconception of Alex
Jones to begin with, but setting that aside.
One thing I want to touch on, I remember at the time the parents who were suing and the
plaintiffs who were suing said that they were receiving harassment.
They were getting stalked and doxxed and harassed by people who were incited or influenced
or motivated by Alex Jones' discourse.
I remember hearing it at the time and just taking it for granted.
But now I wonder in retrospect whether or not that was accurate.
I've seen zero evidence of it, zero evidence.
So like Megan Kelly once reported, it's in the new Alex's war documentary, which pretty
solid documentary, which I saw this weekend at the premiere with Alex and some other folks.
It's not a pro-Alex documentary, but it's a pretty reasonable one in terms of being balanced
and appropriate.
But in that documentary, it repeated what Megan Kelly had said, where a defense lawyer
for someone had blamed Infowars for this person stalking, stalking somebody that was connected
to Sandy Hook.
Some is if you dig into the record, that wasn't really true.
That was the defense lawyer looking for an excuse that he thought a liberal judge would
buy to go down on sentencing.
Infowars, how you would know that?
Because if you actually followed and read Infowars at the time, you knew that Paul Joseph
Watson, the editor of Infowars, was always critical of anybody who raised questions
about Sandy Hook.
You knew how often Infowars said Sandy Hook happened.
You knew that through most of the time, period, Alex Jones always said Infowars that Sandy
Hook happened.
So you knew how that was an exceptional and occasional and rare and not customary opinion.
So you knew that his people weren't behind any of it.
And to my knowledge, wait for trial.
My guess is they will not produce one person who will say that they did anything bad directly
to the Sandy Hook people because of Alex Jones and Infowars.
And they've had years to develop the evidence.
Over 10 years now, there will be zero evidence to support that media myth.
Rob, I want to bring up Little Rocks.
Little Rock is an attorney people.
Little Rock, hope you're doing well.
Robert, you are fired up.
I have been this way for a few years on other issues I've seen in the eighth circuit.
If you can or have time, tell us why 80% of attorneys are Democrat.
Yeah.
I mean, I was talking to a friend of mine here in Austin about some cases of his that
have gone crazy.
And it's because the lawyers are overwhelmingly from the professional managerial class that
thinks they're God's gift to the universe, that thinks they're here to tell you what
to do in your life.
That's how they handle their own cases and clients.
And they think they're right.
And they think they should govern the rest of us.
It's just read Gorsuch's wonderful footnote in his concurring opinion in West Virginia
versus EPA, where he describes this was Woodrow Wilson's mindset in the 19 teens.
This has been the progressive so-called progressive movement was always a professional managerial
class movement to govern the rest of us.
And as Mark Grober recently pointed out on his answering questions about the JFK assassination
with Eric Hunley on America's untold stories where you can find on YouTube and at unstructured.locals.com,
where they put up a lot of inside information, text, a whole bunch of stuff.
They're amazing.
Everyone should check them out.
Absolutely.
Do great work.
We will be live with them probably a week from Friday for the monthly Freeform Friday
show that's always fun and educational, sometimes in surprising ways.
But as he pointed out in Eisenhower's farewell address, one of the things he highlighted was
not just the military industrial complex, but he said this new professional class managerial
class running things is probably a problem because of how they will irrigate power to
themselves for arrogance.
That's how lawyers are taught and trained.
That's the socioeconomic class that they currently occupy.
That's the class that they come from overwhelmingly.
Very few working-class kids go to law school these days.
Those of us who are more populist or people-oriented or little d-democratic-oriented, unfortunately,
we are the rare exception, as Little Rock mentions, in the practice and profession of
law.
That's why people like Alex Jones have such trouble even finding lawyers willing to defend
him.
I have been the only lawyer willing to defend him in the court of public opinion.
I was doing it before I was his lawyer.
I've done it after I was no longer his legal counsel in these cases.
That's because he's right, and it's because America deserves better than what we're getting
and because I believe in the rule of law.
What we saw in the District of Columbia this week was not respect for the rule of law.
All right.
That's time for the segue.
We've covered it.
Stick around, people.
One last question, Robert.
He gets to appeal, obviously.
Yes.
The problem is they can often collect on judgments while the appeal is pending.
They clearly want to go in and seize.
They want to seize all of InfoWars and shut them down overnight.
That's the goal here.
They have a judge who completely disrespects the rule of law, so we'll likely try to accommodate
that.
Okay.
All right.
Now, let's do it.
Now, why is it not considered a conflict of interest for lawyers to be the ones writing
and voting on law?
Well, I think too many lawyers in Congress, too many lawyers in all these positions, and
that's true like the UK, same problem.
They used to have a bunch of labor party used to actually be laborers, coal miners and people
like that.
Go back to the 40s.
Go back to the 50s in the UK.
Now they don't exist.
The labor party is a bunch of lawyers, and that's why they're a bunch of wokesters.
This is a class of people we cannot allow to have power.
Power should be dispersed amongst ordinary people who have a diverse set of life experiences,
not a small professional managerial class that thinks they're God's gift to the world.
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So there's a lot of controversy around this network about Alex Jones, for example.
All you have to do is check out what I'm saying and that's why they run the fake headline against
myself and Tucker Carlson everywhere, every day.
Jones admits he's an actor or Tucker Carlson says nobody would take me seriously.
Where do we say that?
We never said that.
They just say we said that.
But where's the clip?
Where's the article?
Where do we say that?
It doesn't exist.
Alex Jones is playing a character and is a performance artist.
Jones is playing a character on his radio show.
The radio rants of Alex Jones are just an act.
He's actually a performance artist.
He's a performance artist.
Alex Jones is a fake.
They're lying to you because they think you're stupid and it's all based on a custody battle
with my ex-wife five years ago when she was trying to put into evidence to be dressed
up more than a decade before like the Joker being sarcastic saying take your Prozac kids,
take your illegal drugs too, they'll die, it's fun, so people wouldn't take drugs.
And they wanted to enter that in evidence.
They look, he's insane telling kids to use drugs.
And my lawyer went, when Jack Nicholson plays the part of the Joker, no one thinks that's
really Jack Nicholson.
So yeah, when I've been Cobra Commander, or Optimus Prime, or the Joker, because I can
do imitations of them all really good, or Darth Vader, don't act so surprised globalist.
You didn't think you could silence the American people, did you?
Do I really think I'm Darth Vader?
No.
Do I think I'm Optimus Prime?
I'm a commander, the Joker, no.
And clearly no reasonable person would think when I'm doing satire that what I'm saying
is what I really think.
No one believes the Babylon Bee.
It's not trying to lie to you, it's being sarcastic.
By the vaccinate me Elmo doll today.
It's required by the CDC.
But they play those games, and that's why I don't joke around as much as I used to.
Even though I tell people, okay, this is a joke, this isn't serious, they clip it out,
and they say, no, this is what he really believes.
Every day when I leave work, I do this, that man's a threat to this country.
And they go, look, he admitted in court, he's an actor.
Well yeah, I was an actor in Scanner Darkly, I was an actor in Waking Life, I was an actor
when I was Cobra Commander.
But it doesn't mean that Alex Jones, the talk show host, up here reading news articles
to you, isn't a real thing, and isn't something I'm actually saying.
And you know that.
You're insulted right now, I'm even explaining that to you, and so am I.
But that's who these people are.
You don't know the power of the dark side.
Am I really Darth Vader?
I think Alex Jones seems really talented, he's smart, he's funny as hell, he's truly
funny.
I'm kind of retarded.
Now that I've done those imitations, those little jokes, do you now not listen to what
I say about other things when I show you a powerful news article by Dr. Joseph Mercola
on infowars.com that has all the cited information, the latest tragedy, sudden adult death syndrome?
No, that's a real thing.
That's something happening in the real world.
And that's what we're breaking down here today.
I am Alex Jones, and I am the guy on this show every day.
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It is the Alex Jones show with Owen Troyer, and we've got Robert Barnes in studio with
us now.
We just heard from him on the Viva Free podcast, great legal breakdown.
And in the next segment, what I want to do is kind of a simulation.
Now Bob is not representing Alex in any cases.
He's not legal counsel here.
He's just here as just independent legal commentary, let's just say.
And so I want to kind of do a simulation in the next segment of what would your opening
statements be just as a lawyer that's neutral, not involved in this case.
But before we do that, it's hard to really talk about the implications of this case,
right?
Because we're still in the present.
I mean, we're still dealing with it now, just like when Alex was being censored.
Yeah, we could talk about, we think they're going to censor the present next.
They're going to censor members of Congress.
But people didn't really believe those implications.
They couldn't really see them coming.
It's kind of a hard thing to foresight.
But now we have a test case with the censorship.
And I think a test case with what's going on in court.
How do we properly lay out the implications of the results of this court case with Alex
Jones, so that the American public doesn't get bamboozled into thinking, hey, if we
get Alex Jones' scalp, that's a victory.
But to understand, no, there's much bigger implications for the average American and
for the country than just Alex Jones or Alex Jones-like people or supporters.
Oh, absolutely.
I mean, this case is about the power of the American judicial system to strip you of
all of your core rights and liberties when somebody accuses you of doing something wrong.
Because if they can do it to Alex Jones, just like what happened with social media,
they can do it to you.
And the goal is to prove that they can strip you of all of your rights of due process of
law.
Those rights include the rights to bring things like motions to dismiss, motions for anti-slap
motions, motions for summary judgment, your right to seek discovery, your right of privacy
against invasive discovery.
All of those rights have been violated in the case of Alex Jones and every court that
has adjudicated these Sandy Hook cases, both in Austin, Texas and in Connecticut.
But it's not just that.
They've also stripped him of his right to appeal some of those rulings, a right to an
appeal, an anti-slap motion in the case of Connecticut, a right to this appeal, a summary
judgment motion in the case of Texas.
Not only that, they've also now stripped him of his right to trial by jury.
There's a reason why the Magna Carta's fundamental assertion, the most critical, essential procedural
right to guarantee substantive freedoms and liberties, was the right to trial by jury.
What has happened here?
He is not allowed to have a right of trial by jury on the substantive merits of the suit.
He is not even allowed to have a right of trial by jury on many issues that are legally
related to whether or not he caused any damages to the people seeking relief in the court.
And that's going to keep going further, as we probably will see in witness in the jury
selection process.
The court is likely to preclude and exclude those jurors who are capable of being impartial
and try to stack the jury with prejudiced jurors who have a preconceived conclusion
about the case further inflamed by the judge's ruling.
So this is about, does the rule of law still govern in America?
Do you still have a right of trial by jury?
Do you have a right of due process of law?
Do you have a right of privacy?
Because if they stripped those rights from Alex Jones, you're next, just like happened
in the social media context.
Well, and I've seen what happens in the court of public opinion now with the power of the
mainstream media, which is just totally allied with the Democrat Party.
I mean, you want to talk about collusion, you want to talk about fascism, there it is,
the media and the Democrat Party, where I have friends, and this is what I say is the
power of it.
I have friends that know me, have known me my entire life, and they'll find some media
story about me, and if they even have the courage, they'll send it to me and say, hey,
what's going on?
But more often the case is they see it and they start talking with other people about
how I'm bad and how I did this and they can't believe I would do this stuff.
It's like, you know me.
You know me, and they still fall for the propaganda.
They still say, oh, wow, I'm sure I've known him my whole life.
No, he's not this.
No, he's not that.
But oh my gosh, I just saw this hit piece and now everything changes my mind.
So I've seen in real time how the court of public opinion can be swayed so easily with
the propaganda media.
But here's an example, and I think this is kind of a, it will tell us where we're at
as far as how it impacts the legal system.
Now this might be a stretch because the cases are obviously different, but I look at the
O.J. Simpson trial, O.J. Simpson is still guilty in the court of public opinion.
Yes.
Still guilty.
He's not going to be found guilty in a court of law.
Why?
Because in that process, police planted evidence, tampered with the crime scene, and the judge
said, look, I'm out like, that's it.
He could be guilty as sin, but the fact that you tampered with evidence, the fact that
you planted evidence, you tampered with the crime scene, I can't listen to anything.
You can't be trusted.
The case is done.
O.J. Simpson guilty in the court of public opinion, but because of the way that the actual
legal system works, and the prosecutors blew the case, the police blew the case, O.J.
Simpson's walks.
So now I think we have kind of the different thing where they want to build the court of
opinion of guilty against Alex Jones, but then in the process, doesn't even matter.
Doesn't matter what they find in the process.
He's guilty.
We're going to rule him guilty.
The decision is not whether he's innocent or guilty, but how guilty he is.
Oh, completely, and that's why they have stripped him of his ability to defend himself.
That's why they stripped him of all of his procedural remedies.
That's why they don't want, I mean, imagine here you have an Austin Democratic liberal
jury.
That's Austin, Texas, very liberal jury pool, Connecticut, very liberal jury pool.
The courts are so scared and terrified of an even a liberal Democratic jury hearing the
actual evidence in the case that they are preventing Alex Jones from giving them any
of that evidence, even making argument about it, even asking questions about it.
So what's going to happen in this case is they're going to try to, they try to rig the
jury pool.
They're going to tell the jury, the only evidence the jury is going to be allowed to hear is
the trauma of the plaintiff, trauma that doesn't relate to Alex Jones.
But Alex Jones' lawyers will not even be allowed to ask them whether something else
might have caused their trauma or whether or not many of these people have been all over
TV news all over the place.
So I mean, did public discussion of their name concern them when they were publicly
disclosing their own name everywhere?
But those questions can't even be asked.
You can't ask the same honest questions you could in any other courtroom in America and
any other comparable case in America.
This is all unparalleled and unprecedented.
There is no example of denying a party their ability to say, hey, I'm innocent, denying
a party saying, hey, I didn't cause you those injuries, hey, I didn't intend any harm to
you.
I didn't do 90% of the things that you think I did.
So I mean, for example, watch, in this trial, there will be no evidence, this is my prediction
right now, there will be no evidence that anybody stalked or directly harassed any of
these plaintiffs at the demand or request of Alex Jones.
That will turn out to have been a huge lie.
Well they don't want the world to know that's a huge lie.
So what do they do?
They don't allow Alex Jones to talk about it.
They don't allow him to present evidence of it.
They don't allow him to testimony in his own behalf on it.
They don't allow his lawyers to even talk about it to the jury or ask questions of witnesses.
This is a rigged trial.
This is, I said it looks like 19th century Australia, all kangaroos and railroads.
And that's precisely what this case looks like, and it is a disgrace to the rule of
law.
And people have asked, why do I speak out about it when I don't represent Info Wars?
I don't represent Alex Jones.
This is my own independent opinion on the subject.
It is because it is an outrage to the rule of law that should scare and terrify every
American that this can happen.
And we need to call it out in the court of a public opinion, expose it for the fraud
on the law that it is, so that we ultimately maybe can get justice through the legislative
process or the appellate process.
Well, and it's like a bait and switch, or like Indiana Jones in the Temple of Doom
when he has to take the gold, trinket out and put the bag on it, where it's like, okay,
here's somebody that's suffering greatly because of the loss of life, suffering greatly because
of a tragedy, and that's there on the podium, and you say, look, they're suffering.
This is a horrible tragedy.
But then you take that away and put Alex Jones there and say, see, Alex Jones is the reason
you're suffering.
Completely.
And they're not even allowed to tell the jury maybe their suffering is due to the shooter.
Maybe the suffering is due to school safety lapses.
Maybe their suffering is due to politicians lying about those school safety lapses.
They're not allowed to talk about any of that.
They're only allowed to say, listen to my trauma, blame Alex Jones.
That's it.
They're not allowed to hear or see anything else.
And this is after rigging everything else that goes into the case in terms of procedure,
in terms of substantive law, in terms of jury selections.
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a second, we're only here in order to judge, to award money for hurt feelings.
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That's nothing else.
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Leading a frontal assault on the lies of the New World Order, it's Alex Jones.
All right, we're going to do a mock kind of simulated opening statement here with Bob
Barnes as we continue on the Alex Jones show, but I want to stick with the process of jury
selection, something a lot of Americans aren't really aware of.
They don't understand how it goes down.
They don't understand the importance, the implication.
I just so happen to have worked for lawyers and been in jury selection process twice,
so I kind of have an idea of what goes on.
And for a lot of cases, jury selection really is the most important part of a case, and
it might not seem that way, but really it is, especially with trial cases that end up with
the jury verdict, which is what could be the case for Alex Jones here.
So we're in the process of the jury selection right now, Bob.
Just kind of go through the basics.
Just legal 101, what is the jury selection process like, and then why is it so important?
Why do lawyers and judges really spend a lot of time making sure they get the jury selection
process right?
Well, it reflects an old principle that I like to say, which is motivation is the master
of reason.
Reason is not the master of motivation.
What that means is if you want to improve your reasoning, shift your motivation.
Theoretically, that's what we're taught as lawyers to do, though increasingly your
woke crowd is not even capable of doing so.
So what does that mean?
It means jurors come in with preordained beliefs about your case.
They often are not consciously aware of their own beliefs.
Some are, and some will lie to get on the jury, as I think happened in the Steve Bannon trial
and happened in the Roger Stone trial, but some just are not aware of their bias.
It's like if you meet a certain kind of person, if you meet somebody that's a woke liberal
on the issues related to this case, as an example, someone who hates guns, someone who
believes second amendment shouldn't exist, someone who's got eight veto signs in their
front yard, someone who believes that the speech should be restricted, someone who believes
in safe spaces, your classic sort of COVID Karen kind of personality, that kind of person
is not going to be an impartial jury.
But they will often say they are, and some of them actually may think they will be.
So that's the first reality, is that the jury is the one to make the decisions and jurors
come in with preconceptions and preconceived biases that will often shape the case and
they will filter evidence in accordance with it.
I call it a memento memory.
In other words, most jurors that walk in are like from the movie memento, they remember
what they want to remember and they don't remember what they don't want to remember.
It's like any political debate you've ever engaged in with anybody of the opposite side
or opposite party.
That's part one.
Why do we have trial by jury in America?
Because it was first established in the Magna Carta, it was an old principle, which is
you should only be tried by the other members of your community who can fairly and fully
assess what you've done, whether it was right or wrong and what injury it may have caused
and what remedy is appropriate and proportionate.
So that goes all the way back to the Magna Carta.
It's in the Seventh Amendment to the United States Constitution.
It's applied to the States through the Fourteenth Amendment of the United States Constitution,
the Civil Rights Amendments and then the States have their own constitutional protections
for trial by jury as both Connecticut and Texas do.
And what it means is on any question that is about whether you were morally right, whether
you caused injury, what the remedy for injury would be, a jury is supposed to decide that.
Now historically in America, juries were allowed to decide sentences as well as whether somebody
committed a crime.
They're able to decide the law as well as the so-called facts.
The court system has usurped that from the jury because leave it to the courts to say,
ah, we think we should have that exclusive power, not the jury.
And because the only party around to enforce the right to trial by jury are the courts
themselves, surprise, surprise, courts decided to monopolize that part of the power, the
power to determine law to themselves.
So now in America, jurors only get to decide because of the court system the facts.
But in the case of Alex Jones, they're not even being allowed to hear those facts in
order to determine those facts.
Now the other important part of jury selection is you're entitled to an impartial jury.
So the jury's supposed to represent the venue that you're from, the community, a fair representation
of the local communities, part one.
Part two is they're supposed to be impartial.
In other words, they don't come in with a preconceived bias in the case.
The reality is very few jurors in America are even capable of being impartial in most politically
motivated cases.
And so in a case like this, the jurors preconceived political bias will heavily shape whether they
can be impartial or not.
The reality is even Alex Jones fans are actually much more capable of being impartial in this
case because they're willing to see whether you did right or wrong, whether an injury
happened and whether remedies appropriate.
You're Alex Jones haters or not.
They're not willing to listen to the evidence.
They're not willing to judge it impartially.
They're not willing to make a judgment consistent with the facts and the law.
And so the hard part for Alex Jones lawyers in court today is can you find an impartial
jury in Austin, Texas when there's been all this inflammatory, prejudicial coverage in
the media?
Because that's the other aspect that's important in your right to an impartial jury that's
representative of the community includes your right to a jury that hasn't heard about the
case outside of the case that has biased them in certain conclusions.
And that is a critical and equally essential component of your right constitutional right
to trial by jury, because in the end, it's constitutional democracy preserved.
How do we best protect our freedoms and liberties to who do we give power to because that's
what often a question is it who has a right to something it's who do we give power to
do we give power to unelected judges, do we give power to elected judges, do we give power
to appellate or Supreme Court or law or district court judges, do we give power to the executive
branch, do we give power to the legislative branch or do we instead give power to 12 ordinary
everyday people who will impartially judge the facts and morality of the case and come
to a conclusion and judgment of the community.
Our forefathers said the only people we could really trust to protect our freedom to protect
our liberty is an impartial 12 members of our local community.
That's why trial by jury is so essential.
It's not just about this case.
It's not just about future cases.
It's about the future of freedom and liberty in America.
And just kind of a practical example of this.
When I first was selected for jury duty, it was a gentleman who got caught with, I think
it was some crack cocaine or something in the streets of St. Louis.
And part of the question they asked me, they say, have you ever been arrested for a drug
offense before?
I said, yes, I was when I was younger in college.
Immediately they don't want me on the case because they know I'm going to have a bias
against police.
They then did some follow-ups and I said, I'm against the war on drugs.
I probably would let this guy walk even if he was found guilty, I said he shouldn't.
So immediately I was struck from that jury.
So that's kind of part of the process is, OK, well, this guy's got a bias maybe against
police.
This guy is against the war on drugs.
We don't want him on our jury.
And then in the other case, it was a longer white collar crime.
I think it was money laundering or something.
And the lawyer that I was working for at the time was like, if you land on this jury,
you're going to be for months.
This case is going to go on forever.
So he's like, you should probably just say the word jury nullification a couple of times.
Just slide it in there and they won't put you on the jury.
And they were right.
And that's a good process because it is a way to get an impartial jury.
That's just the way it goes.
Now the one question I have here, and you can answer this quickly because I don't hear
brought up often, but what about even the jury duty process?
I mean, is there a chance that that could be rigged?
Is there a chance like Bannon's case, Stone's case, or any other cases where they could
make sure that even in the jury duty selection that they kind of even have a impartial just
base to choose from?
It happens all the time.
So in the crack cocaine case, Mike, the temptation I would have to ask is how much crack was
it?
Was it like breakfast?
Like Hunter Biden level?
Is it breakfast for Hunter Biden?
Was it lunch?
Was it dinner?
Was it dessert?
No, I mean, there's a lot of ways jury selection can be tampered with or can be rigged, usually
by the system.
So one is who they subpoena, who they summons.
Did they do it properly?
Was it really representative of the community?
There was a Lincoln lawyer, Amazon TV series show, and they portrayed a judge who was manipulating
that part of the process.
Second part of the process is what questions they ask.
A third part of the process, what questions they allow your lawyers to ask.
A fourth side of the process is who do they strike for cause?
Who do they not strike for cause?
So there's a lot of different ways to rig a jury outcome.
You don't have to read John Grisham's runaway jury to figure that out.
Well John Grisham, a great author, one of the best to put these into books ever.
All right, Bob Barnes is with us.
We're going to do a simulated opening statement from Bob Barnes when we come back.
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to be clear here, Robert Barnes is not representing Alex Jones in this case, he's not legally
involved in this case at all, he's just simply doing legal commentary as a legal expert right
now, and obviously just following the case in so many other cases, a great voice of reason
to go to, so I just kind of want to do a simulated opening statement here from Bob Barnes on
Alex Jones' case that begins this week, folks, I imagine the media coverage of this is going
to be pretty crazy, we'll see when it really heats up, but I don't think they're going
to just kind of put this as a side case, I think they're going to want to bring it to
the fore whenever it's advantageous for them or they feel it's advantageous for them, but
aside from that, let's go to Bob Barnes now, just a simulated opening statement, we're
just doing legal commentary here, if Bob Barnes was representing Alex Jones, he's not, but
if he was, Robert, what would be your opening statement?
So in the defense of Alex Jones, the opening statement really is kind of simple and straightforward,
why are the jurors there, the real reason, and what everybody really kind of wanted to
know is what exactly happened in the case of Sandy Hook, and what jurors mostly don't
know, what most ordinary people don't know is what happened in terms of the cover-up
of Sandy Hook by politicians connected to Sandy Hook, and why people were suspicious
of what was going on at Sandy Hook, the reason was because the school system had pocketed
money meant for school safety, and in fact, they did not even have the mechanisms and
means in place for the teachers to be able to lock their doors to prevent a shooter from
coming in the room, or even coming into the bathroom where some of them within the classroom
also didn't have a lock on the door where they could even try to keep the children safe.
That big lie about the local politicians keeping the schools safe when they had not, when they
had failed a fundamental test, was the number one thing the politicians in Sandy Hook had
to cover up, and they had the willing complicity of the press, the willing complicity of the
Obama White House, because they wanted to blame to all shift to the gun and the gun
manufacturer and Second Amendment rights in America, that being the cause of the traumatic
tragic death of these young children, rather than politicians pocketing money meant for
school safety and failing to employ effective school safety mechanisms that would come to
haunt Americans in other places all across the country because of those schools' lack
of effective school safety systems in years to come, and because of it, they covered up
information related to Open Records Act, Sunshine Laws, FOIA requests, etc., and that in turn
triggered a lot of people's concerns and questions that led them down often the erroneous path
as to what had happened in Sandy Hook. But people asking questions as to what was really
going on and what really happened is something we should want to have happen in America.
We shouldn't want to discourage and dissuade asking basic core questions about big public
events that impact things as important as the school safety of young children.
So why are we here in this case? We're here in this case because the objective is to blame
Alex Jones for the horrifying tragedy and trauma that occurred in Sandy Hook. But Alex
Jones wasn't the person who decided not to use school safety mechanisms effectively.
Alex Jones isn't the person who decided not to lock the doors or even providing means
to lock the doors for school children. Alex Jones isn't the one who failed to have an
effective school safety response system or school safety personnel located at the scene.
Alex Jones is not the one who pulled the trigger. Alex Jones was the one exposing questions
about big pharma and poor mental health of young disturbed men in America. Alex Jones
was the one talking about the glorification of violence in video games and in aspects
of Hollywood that is meant to create these kind of problems rather than cure these kind
of problems. Alex Jones is the one talking about the necessity for school safety to be
real and meaningful and that often means having good people with guns available to defend
against bad people with guns. Alex Jones raised questions. Some of his questions by his own
acknowledgment, by his own admission, he didn't get right. Nobody is 100% right. But what
Alex Jones didn't do is cause the death of these young children. What Alex Jones didn't
do was fail to put basic school safety tests in place. What Alex Jones didn't do was many
of the things that people have assumed he did or blamed him for. Alex Jones simply raised
questions. And some of those questions were on the right track. And they were questions
the press should have been asking but wasn't. Our politicians should have been asking but
weren't. And our public was entitled to answers to but didn't get. And so instead they want
you to say that because of the horrific tragedy that happened that day, just blame Alex Jones.
Don't blame anybody else. Don't blame big pharma. Don't blame the media. Don't blame
the school safety officials. Don't blame the politicians. Don't blame the people that
are not treating our mental health of our young men well. Don't blame any of that. Instead
just blame Alex Jones because he asked questions and some of the questions didn't turn out
to be right. But some of them turned out to be very right. And that is why you're really
here. And it's the attempt to say that any emotional trauma experienced by anybody connected
to that tragedy is solely and wholly the fault of Alex Jones. When Alex Jones isn't the
reason why that Sandy Hook happened. Just like Alex Jones isn't the real reason we're
here. We're here because this case is about your right to ask questions, your right to
demand answers, your right to get meaningful remedies. That's why we're really here. They
want to deny you, the American people, the right to ask those questions. They want to
deny you, the American people, the right to demand answers. They want to deny you, the
American people, the means to be able to best protect our young children. And that's why
we're here. So the only verdict is a verdict that affirms our right to ask questions, that
affirms our right to demand answers, and that affirms the right to meaningful school safety
protection in America. And that is not aided by suppressing those questions, censoring
those answers, or putting Alex Jones in a permanent gag box. That is what the case is
about. That's what you're being asked to decide. Do the thing that is right. Do the thing that
is American. And that means a zero verdict against Alex Jones.
Now let's think about the precedent that could be said here. Now, there might not be a law
written, right? But, oh, Alex Jones questions major event. His entire life is destroyed.
His company is destroyed. He's bankrupted. We all know the story. Well, guess what? You
don't need to write a law for people to see that and say, boy, I'm not going to question
anything. If they do that, they do that to Alex. But let's just take a look at recent
history. Jussie Smollett fakes a hate crime. Well, are you allowed to question that? Or
is that propaganda allowed to persist as fact, even though we all know it was fake? What
about Russian collusion? Remember Russian collusion, Donald Trump, Russian collusion?
Totally fake news, totally made up. Are you not allowed to question that so propaganda
can become fact and influence policy? What about the Uvaldi shooting? We now know the
cops stood down. It was a good guy with a gun that had to bring down the shooter and
saved lives. What if you weren't able to question that? We wouldn't know about the horrific police
response that day. What about the Hunter Biden laptop? They said, oh, that's not real. It's
Russian misinformation. It's Russian propaganda. Don't look at that. Don't question that. The
laptop was very real. So we have all this is just modern history. I mean, we're not even
getting into the Gulf of Tonkin. Now there are false flags that have led to wars. I think
the USS Liberty and it's just all these other incidents. So setting the precedent of someone
gets to run propaganda, someone gets to run with a lie, you don't get to question it.
And then that propaganda, that lie is able to influence policy, which is then able to
influence permanent law. And it's all based off a false flag. It's all based off of a
lie. So if they can set that precedent in this case, whether they have to write laws
or not, there's going to be major impact when it comes to free speech and media coverage
of big events in this country and quite frankly, the world, depending on how this case goes.
Oh, absolutely. And for people to understand out there, just look at what the Texas Court
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All right, final segment here with Bob Barnes, who is going to be covering this trial as
it's ongoing. It could last weeks. Who knows how long it could go, folks. A lot of stuff.
We're just beginning the process now. And again, to clarify, Bob Barnes not representing
us. He's just here as his own legal commentator, and he hosts podcasts and stuff as well. But
let's kind of get into the defamation angle of this, not even necessarily directly involved
with the Jones case here, but just as a more general coverage of defamation, because I've
looked into this. When I had to get my degree in media, actually the hardest college class
ever took was media law. I mean, my God, people that, I mean, you know how much you have to
read when you go through law school. That was the one law class I took. It was like ridiculous
how much we had to learn. But I learned about defamation. I learned more about it working
for an attorney growing up. And here's what my understanding of defamation was, and I
still believe this is the case, designed this way. It is so hard to win a defamation case.
It is one of the hardest cases that you can possibly win, and that's why you don't really
see or hear much about it. Here's an example. I could, I could go right now and I could
present dozens, maybe even hundreds of cases of articles and videos and all this stuff
of how I've been defamed. Lies about me, hit pieces against me, they're everywhere. Now
I've brought this to lawyers and you know what the challenge is. They say, okay, well
there's no doubt that there's an aspect of defamation here. The problem is, how do you
prove losses in court? How do you prove that because somebody said this or somebody said
that, even if they know they're lying, even if it's clearly false information, how do
you prove financial damages in court? Because that's really what the defamation law comes
down to, right, is okay, well you've been defamed, what did it cost you? We're going
to give you a reward for the damages. So sure, I could, I could go into a court of law, present
dozens of cases of how I've been defamed, but then how do I equate that to potential
lost earnings because that's one of the hardest things to prove. Potential lost earnings is
one of the hardest things to prove, so you don't really see that in the court of law
very often. But generally speaking, that's how I understand defamation. What's your understanding
and background of being involved in the legal process for decades of defamation and then
how does it apply modern day and how do you see its application changing over the years?
So I've been doing this work on both sides, plaintiffs and defense side in the defamation
context because of its constitutional implications for freedom of press, freedom of speech, freedom
of expression, freedom of association, for the better part of a quarter century. I represent
the Covington kids. Now let's use that as an example. There the Covington kids were
targeted by a bunch of powerful people, lied about, they tried to destroy their lives,
their careers, their futures, they ended up being subject to death threats and firebombing,
something that was a really direct connection compared to what I think the evidence will
show in this case involving Alex Jones and Sandy Hook. And what happened? Judges said,
nope, you can't sue. They said you can't sue because of this or that or something else.
That gives you an idea. Those kids can't or we're having to go through the appellate process,
going to have to go to the legislative reform process to ever get meaningful remedy. Yet
here in the Sandy Hook cases, they've obliterated all of those rules limiting the constitutional
scope of defamation. So defamation is supposed to be when you make a specifically false statement
of fact about a specifically identified individual that leads, that causes them both emotional
harm and reputational harm in their local community. And that you do so with a certain
state of mind, a certain mens rea, what is usually called malice. In this case, it's
reckless disregard of the truth. That you knew at the time you made the statement basically
that the statement wasn't true or likely to be true about that individual.
Now look at this and there's the constitutional requirement of what's called colloquium. This
goes all the way back to the New York Times versus Sullivan. This is why I don't believe
any of the cases against Alex Jones should have even been court. And a constitutionally
honest court would have thrown out these cases years ago. Why do I say that? Because there
is a requirement under the Constitution, as the court, U.S. Supreme Court said in New
York Times versus Sullivan, that you must make a specifically false statement about
a specified individual. In that particular case, they made a statement about a group.
But generally this is called group libel is not recognized constitutionally or under the
tort law of defamation in individual states. It needs to be about sufficiently about you
that people knew it was about you, not you because you're a group of a hundred or a group
of 50 or a group of 200. It's really about you. It goes all the way back to a case in
New York where one group of people made false statements about a group of salesmen with
which there were only 10 in that department. There are other false statements made about
a group in which there were more than 50. The court said in the group that's more than 50,
they don't know the statements about you. That's too many people. In the group that's
10, okay, they probably do think the statement's about you because that's sufficiently few.
So look at the Sandy Hook cases. In the Sandy Hook cases, and almost all of them, there's
no allegation that Alex Jones said a specifically false fact about a specific individual. Not
there. So what did the court say? The court said we're going to ignore the constitutional
requirement of colloquium. We're going to ignore the tort law of defamation. We're going to
ignore the intentional infliction of emotional distress limitations on torts and say that
now you can sue if you're part of any group that somebody could look you up on the Internet
and see whether maybe you're part of that group, even if that group is 100 or 200 or
300 or 1,000 or more. This is in direct refutation and a direct opposition to every court case
in the history of the country on class libel claims. So they have made special standards
for Alex Jones. Not only is he not allowed due process of law, not only is he not allowed
trial by jury, not only is he not allowed to say he's innocent in a case, not only is
he not allowed to an impartial jury process, he's also not allowed to have the same constitutional
and tort protections that have applied to everybody from time and memorial in terms of governing
libel laws. So that's why it goes to anybody could be put at risk now. So you go out there
and you make a statement about that can be a reference to a broad group of people. So
let's say you go out there and say, you know what? COVID vaccines are not vaccines. They're
not safe. They're not effective. Now somebody who feels injured by that can now under existing
Texas law, the Alex Jones exception of the First Amendment, the Alex Jones exception
of the Constitution, the Alex Jones exception to due process, the Alex Jones exception to
trial by jury. Now suddenly you can be individually and separately sued for any hurt emotions
they feel and they can pick a politicized venue that is weaponized against you in the
judicial and jury process. And that is why this case is so dangerous and consequential
because constitutionally it puts the First Amendment at risk, constitutionally it puts
due process at risk, constitutionally it puts the right to trial by jury at risk, but also
it's gutting the purpose and principle of defamation on the real purpose is to make government
identified misinformation. In other words, what people in power call misinformation to
allow individuals to weaponize the legal system to allow individuals to sue you into oblivion
and bankruptcy into permanent censorship and suppression of information because you are
a dissident. It is a basically converting defamation law into dissident heresy laws.
That's what the basically Alex Jones is on trial for heresy. That's what it really is.
And that's what they're trying to do to everybody ultimately using Alex Jones as the means to
do so. And it's not consistent with defamation law, not consistent with the Constitution.
But hey, if it puts money in my pocket and if it hurts my political opposition, then
oh, let's do it anyway. Now, here's what I'm concerned because I've seen concerned about
because here's what the pattern that I've seen is that defamation is just begin going
to become another legal tool for the Democrat Party to destroy its opposition. Basically
only one side of the aisle gets to use it. Here's some other examples. Contempt of court
or contempt of Congress. Eric Holder, he gets to walk no charges. Steve Bannon, he gets
arrested. How about disruption of Congress? David Hogg, he gets to disrupt, disrupt Congress.
Never arrested, never charged nothing. Oh, and shroyer, though, I'm still in court three
years later for doing it. How about illegal entry to the Capitol? Stephen Colbert staffers,
eh, good for them. Charges dropped. No, no harm, no foul. But if you were a Trump supporter,
American patriot, you're still in jail. You're suffering the full extent of the law. Is defamation
going to become the new legal weapon of the Democrats to destroy their opposition when
it never is applied to them? Absolutely. It's going to be a one side selective means of prosecution
and suppression. What it is, it's recreating the old church, recreating old heresy trials
and being able to lock up dissident thinkers, suppress dissident thinkers, censor dissident
thinkers using lawfare, weaponized lawfare to do it. As I've told people, Alex Jones
was in business for 25 years, never faced a meaningful lawsuit of any kind. Then Donald
J. E. Trump wins office to the presidency of the United States. People realize how influential
Alex Jones's audience is. So they decided to try to take out the audience by trying
to take out Alex Jones. And that's why I say the front line to Alex Jones that was
supposed to break is you, the audience. It's people who continue to go to infowars store
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Bob Barnes, he is going to be here with us covering the legal case all week. So he'll
be popping in and out. Be sure to pay attention here. Thank you, Robert for coming in to join
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The ban and conviction. This is truly like an ordinary case, two misdemeanors in the
District of Columbia at most probation. What do you think of this verdict and what do you
think of what's likely to happen to him? Entirely predictable and entirely in violation
of the Constitution. The only provision of the Constitution which appears basically twice
is trial by jury in and in front of a fair jury. Number one, he's not, he didn't have a fair jury.
Number two, the judge took his defenses away from him, denied him a jury trial. They wouldn't
allow him to put it on evidence, believe that there was an executive privilege involved and he
wanted a judicial determination before he violated the executive privilege. That issue could not
be presented to the jury. So as I predicted on this show and other shows before, the conviction
was a foregone conclusion. The only issue is will it be reversed by appeal either by the
appellate court in the District of Columbia or by the Supreme Court? I think it's very likely that
this conviction will be reversed at some point. I suppose the political overlay is the obvious.
I mean, I always like juries, respect juries. I've tried cases before juries in this community,
but this is a community of 94 percent Democrat. Well, not only that, but probably 97 percent
Trump haters. And all you had to do is ladies and gentlemen, the jury, this man banned and worked
for Trump. That's the end of the case. And then he wants to put on a defense that he was executive
privilege and the judge says, no, the jury is not going to hear that. So even if there were a fair
jury, the judge denied the jury the basic facts. And so the issue in this case has always been
a legal one. When Congress holds somebody in contempt and that person invokes privilege,
do you get to prosecute or do you have to go to a judge first, get a judicial order, and then if
the defendant violates a judicial order, obviously that becomes a crime. That didn't happen here.
That didn't happen in the Navarro case. And the Supreme Court's going to have to resolve that
issue. And I think it was a resolve it in favor of requiring a judicial order before Congress can
hold somebody in contempt. That's a major constitutional issue. Take the United States today.
It is living under a kind of totalitarian culture, which has never existed in my lifetime and is
much worse in many ways than the Soviet Union before Gorbachev. Go back to the 1970s, people in
the Soviet Russia could access BBC, Voice of America, German television if they wanted to
find out the news. If today in the United States you want to find out what Prime Minister Lover
of Russia is saying, can't do it. It's bored. Americans are not permitted to hear what the
Russians are saying. Can't get Russian television. Can't access Russian sources. That means also
that fine American journalists like Chris Hedges, one of the best, is cut out, bored from Americans
because he happens to have a program running on RT, Russian television. You want to find out what
the adversary is saying, which is of utmost importance. You can maybe tune into Indian
state television and find it out. You can read it on LJZ Europe. But the United States has imposed
constraints on freedom of access to information, which are astonishing, which in fact go beyond
what was the case in post Stalin's Soviet Russia. So there you have it, folks. I mean,
even Alan Dershowitz, even Noam Chosky, Russell Brand, these are classical liberals,
well known as being on the liberal side of the political spectrum, but they see the danger
of what's happening in the U.S. right now. And let's just call it what it is. It's the Democrat
Party. It's the American Left turning into a Stalinistic, Hitler-esque authoritarian regime,
and that's what's going on. And so anybody in denial of that is only welcoming their own demise.
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be doing most of my news coverage coming up on the war room today at three o'clock. So if you're
looking for the daily news, three o'clock, when I start the war room, we're going to be delving
into all the news, all the big video clips. I do have Savannah Hernandez coming in studio
in about 20 minutes, and we'll be talking to her about her recent reports. She just goes
everywhere across the country, asks people about gas prices, how they feel, asks people how they
feel about Biden. She goes into the inner cities where it's just, I mean, just overwhelmed with
drug addicts. It's actually really sad, some of the stuff that she captures. She goes out there,
braver than most journalists, by the way. So we'll be discussing that with her coming up,
and then again, I'm going to be doing all the news coverage in the three o'clock hour.
So let me do this in the meantime. You know, here's what, because it all kind of comes back
to the same problem, and that's, there is a group, a very small group of elitists.
The best way to trace it and track it is via the World Economic Forum. Their leaders, what they're
doing, like, for example, oh, they had the uprising in Sri Lanka, the president steps down,
World Economic Forum, injects their operative into that presidency now, and now they've shut
off the gas, and you have to have a QR code if you want to get gas. That's the World Economic
Forum. So when you hear statements like this from Jacinda Arden, the failed leader of New
Zealand, the failed leader of New Zealand, she's telling you the truth. I mean, she's as corrupt
as the day is long. She's as bad as it gets when it comes to leadership roles, but she is being
honest. They're the voice of truth. You don't listen to anything else. Here's Jacinda Arden
out of New Zealand telling you how they really feel. You shut up. You have no authority. You
have no rights. You have no free speech. We're the authority. We're in charge. You listen to us,
and you sit down and you shut up. Here she is saying it in clip two.
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So this is a very dis-example of that. It appears to be this text which originated in
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the people that are sharing that news of a lockdown imminent in New Zealand?
Yeah. And look, that's the kind of thing that adds to the anxiety that people feel.
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Now, if you don't understand how dangerous that is, if you don't understand how dystopian that is,
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represented in Congress with individuals like Marjorie Taylor-Green or now Myra Flores. You
wish you had more examples of men doing this but sadly not so much. We do however have a powerful
statement from Rand Paul that I want to play here in a second but let me just kind of lay out the
build up here. Is justice blind? When Democrats are in charge, she is blind, deaf and dumb.
Now that's the headline from Jim Thompson at Red State but everybody can now see
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border patrol, the executive branch, the judicial branch, the court system, I mean everything.
It's never been a better example. Colbert staffers get their charges dropped for illegally entering
the Capitol. Trump supporters still rot in jail for the same thing. David Hall gets to stand up and
disrupt Congress. No charges. Owen Schreuer still in court for something that happened over three
years ago now. So it's never been more obvious. Democrats can break the law, do whatever they
want, hell even riot and burn down cities. It's never been more obvious to the average American
people who the bad guys are. Not even necessarily to say Republicans are the good guys. It's just
obvious the Democrats are the bad guys. Obvious that's the party of evil. And now the two
standards of justice have never been more clear and present either. And so some people are emerging
now. I don't want to say the victims of this but that's just the truth. I mean Steve Bannon is a
victim of the corrupt Democrat party. Steve Bannon is a victim of the two tiered hierarchy
of justice now in this country. And of course there was a powerful interview over the weekend.
Steve Bannon and Alex Jones. Steve Bannon tells Alex Jones he's one of the greatest political
thinkers since founding fathers. One of the greatest since the revolutionary generation
of very powerful interview, Bannon and Jones. And then over the weekend you had Glenn Greenwald
here in Austin, Texas who did an interview with Alex as well at the premiere of Alex's War which
let me just say this, Alex not able to be on air today. Not sure when he will be back on air or
quite frankly if. I'm not trying to be doomsayer here but I'm just telling you what's up. So
Alex's War premiered this weekend. It was Saturday here in Austin, Texas. And I just want to say
something here. I'm speaking for myself and I'll go ahead and speak for Alex. I never do that but
I will right now. We just want to thank everybody that came out and there were so many influential
great people that came out. Thank you guys so much. We had such an incredible time. We met so
many great people shaking hands, taking pictures, everything. It's just, I wish we could have really
like live streamed and televised the whole thing because if you could see the love behind Alex
Jones and the love behind this movement and the friendliness and the smiles and the patriotism,
everything. It's the exact opposite of everything they want to represent us but it really was a
great event. Thank you to Alex Lee Moyer for such a great documentary. Thanks to Play Nice
Productions as well. Thanks to everybody who came out and promoted it and are sharing it.
But here's what it is as Rand Paul says. There's going to come a day of reckoning
where people will rise up. It's going to be peaceful, it's going to be legal, it's going to be lawful
but it's going to save this country and it's going to save the planet. Here's Rand Paul saying just
that on Fox News This Weekend. All right, tonight yet another example, left-wing violence, the same
radical group offering bounties for the locations of any conservative Supreme Court justice that
now attempting to shut down the congressional baseball game according to this group. No,
Republican deserves peace ever again. Senator Rand Paul, no stranger himself to violent agitators,
has been attacked at least twice including one instance right after the RNC convention
when it's the senator and his wife surrounded by far-left lunatics and rioters. I barely got out
of there with his life and of course the incident with the neighbor. Here now is Kentucky Senator
Rand Paul. You know, Senator, I know Washington DC is not far off from New York in terms of their
lack of willingness to prosecute people that are violent, at least in Kentucky. The guy that attacks
you as I understand it paid a price, right? Ultimately, initially a Clinton judge gave him
one month, which is what you might get for shoplifting, came back later and another Democrat
appointed judge, but a more fair-minded Democrat appointed judge gave him another eight months.
So he got nine months, but we still have our major newspapers, both the Louisville Courier
and the Lexington Herald, writing op-eds saying that it was justified, the attack on me was justified
and that I deserved it because I'm somehow a provocative person, that my interviewing and
my style of interviewing Fauci and others is provocative and therefore I deserve violence.
They're still saying that in the newspaper. One of our newspapers employed a young man
who tried to assassinate the mayor, mayoral candidate of Louisville. He got two days in
prison and he was released. The Black Lives Matter bailed him out after two days and he worked
for the Louisville Courier. We now have a new writer for the Louisville Courier who's been
arrested for violent assault and now he's writing that the violence against me was justified,
but he's previously been convicted of assault also. So yeah, the left wing is egging this on
and if we want it to end, we've got to lock people up. The violent people need to be put
away for as long as we can put them away. It seems like, okay, in real time, I was on the radio
on January 6th. I condemned what was happening. I condemned it that night on this show and yet
in the summer of 2020, your Democratic colleagues were either completely silent because it was their
base that was involved in the looting, the rioting, the arson, the attacks on police, thousands of
cops injured, dozens dead, billions in property damage, 574 riots, very few prosecutions in this
case, even though we have a wealth of evidence. We're the Democrats that are lecturing us on the
need for safety and security on the one riot. Why aren't they speaking out against the 574 other
riots? Where's that committee? Think about this. Think about this. A woman in her 60s who's getting
cancer treatment wanders into the Capitol during all this, wanders out, doesn't harm anybody,
is not involved with violence and she gets longer in prison than the people trying to
assassinate a candidate get or it's just amazing what we're doing and who we're letting off of
this. But ultimately there's going to come a day of reckoning where the people who live in New York
City crime disproportionately affects those in poorer neighborhoods and those who are minorities.
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crime and we have to put people in jail. I think that's coming. I think a big, I think a big push
back is coming on a lot of issues, including we need law, we need order, we need safety and
security to pursue happiness. Parents want reading, writing, math, science and computers in school.
They don't want, let's see, whatever political agenda is being rammed down kids' throats
and they also want lower gas prices and elimination of the inflation record high that we have.
Not hard. Senator, we're glad you're safe. Thank you for being with us.
All right. There you have it. Ladies and gentlemen, when we come back, Savannah Hernandez in
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And now your host, Owen Troyer.
Joining studio now by Savannah Hernandez, been working for Truth Social, going across the country,
really covering a wide variety of topics. She goes down to the southern border, does incredible
coverage there. She goes out into inner cities. And I mean, she deals with some of the most
deranged crackheads you're ever going to see on film. We'll talk about that. She interviews people
about gas prices, also some strange stuff. As far as a monkeypox rights or monkeypox protest,
this is a whack one. But we'll discuss that. But Savannah, let's start at the border. You've been
covering the border a lot. You've been to Arizona. You've been to Texas. You've been to California,
I think, too, covering the border issue. What are some of the things that you've covered that
you've seen just being boots on the ground down there talking to either Border Patrol people
or the illegal immigrants or just local residents? What are some of the stories that you've covered
that you don't really see getting national attention? Of course, same thing as always,
National Guard feels that they are very... Sorry, give me one moment here with this.
Okay. So National Guard feels that they're, of course, just very overwhelmed with everything
going on right now at the border. I was actually talking to a couple of the members off the record
and they were telling me what they're experiencing with the cartel. One National Guard member
found this man who the cartel dipped his head in acid, right? So it's just a clean skull,
flesh on his body still, and the cartel is leaving these types of people, these carcasses,
these dead bodies there for them to find as an intimidation tactic. So that's one thing that
National Guard Border Patrol is dealing with. We also have, of course, the huge influx of migrants,
the people in these local communities of Eagle Pass, Texas, really feeling the implications of
the open border, feeling like the federal government is working against them with everything going on
here. What we're seeing on screen is some of my coverage from Yuma, Arizona, where you can go and
from 12 a.m. to 6 a.m. you're watching floods of people, hundreds of people just walk over and mess.
There's probably five or six Border Patrol agents there trying to apprehend all of these people.
What ends up happening is because it's such a large group, sometimes they'll get tired of waiting
and they'll just run into the local farmers' fields, therefore destroying their crop, ruining
their property. So this is what Americans at the border are experiencing every single day.
But it's not even, really, they're not even apprehending them. They go to Border Patrol.
Border Patrol under Biden is now the final piece of the pipeline that is the illegal immigration
process. It's not that they're not apprehending them, they're not sending them back. They run to
Border Patrol because Border Patrol processes them to get them to their final location somewhere in
the U.S. Yeah, exactly. And Border Patrol, too, was telling us how they basically feel like Uber
for illegal immigrants at this point. And they don't get paid. Yeah, they're extremely upset
because they're like, you know what, we're basically just an Uber service. A lot of these migrants
come over. They're extremely entitled with their mentality of like, okay, I just walked a long
journey across the border. I just walked through multiple countries. I was promised money and
housing and give me my money and housing. Yeah, you need to come pick me up, process me and take
me into America. And we have to keep in mind, too, that a lot of these migrants are getting a notice
to appear because people will look at my reporting and say, looks sad. It looks like you're reporting
that Border Patrol is apprehending these people and just letting them go in America. And I'm like,
well, what they're doing is they're giving them a notice to appear. So they're basically saying,
okay, we're going to allow you to stay here in the States. Make sure you come to this court date
so we can work out your immigration status. Of course, many of those people, the majority of
those people not, you know, going to those notice to appear court dates. I forget what the rate was
when I was down there a year ago, we were talking to some insiders that told me the rate is like
15%. I think that show up for their court cases on these deals. Very small percentage. And also,
we saw the new DHS numbers come out about gotaways, right? Because we're seeing the apprehension
numbers. We're reaching historic rates under Joe Biden's administration. But what about the
gotaways, the people who didn't get apprehended? And keep in mind, the reason why these people
don't want to be apprehended is because they're human smugglers, drug traffickers, their members
of the cartel, you know, we just arrested, Border Patrol just arrested not one, but two sex offenders,
one of them a child sex offender, just the other week, because those who are not trying to be
apprehended are the worst of the worst coming over. So in the fiscal year of 2021 to now,
we've had almost a million, it's a little bit over 900,000. In the fiscal year of 2021, it was
a little bit over 380,000. From October of 21 to now, to this point, we've seen, I believe,
like 600,000, it's doubled or tripled since last year. So the numbers are out of control. I mean,
really, we don't even know the numbers. I mean, they tell us we've had two and a half million
illegal entries just this year alone, but who really knows the numbers. And what's amazing here,
so what I was told a year ago, and I don't know if this is still the case, they under Trump, they
used to have some sort of a policy to try to keep track of these people where they would have the
ankle monitors, right? Now, obviously, they don't have two and a half million or three million
or five million or 10 million ankle monitors or however many they would need. So when Biden reopened
the border and the numbers started to influx, they canceled the ankle monitor policy to make
sure people would show up for their court dates. And then they only applied it to if you came into
the country and you were on a tear watch list or a criminal sex offender list or one of these violent
criminal lists, they would still let you in. They'd still say, okay, come in, but we have to put
an ankle monitor on you. By the way, half of them just cut it off. And then they're just gone.
So it doesn't even make a difference. But oh, they'll let you in and they'll give you an ankle
monitor. Most of them still don't show up. They just cut it off. They're in the country. They're
good to go tear watch list, rapists, pedophiles, they all get in. Well, we have to be progressive
and inclusive. You have to remember that, right? So, you know, maybe you're a child, rapist, maybe
you're involved in some human smuggling, some drug trafficking. We need more diversity. Exactly. I
mean, look at what's happening right now in Los Angeles with their district attorneys and not
allowing prosecutors to come to these court dates, right? When these rapists are out on parole,
they're now barring these prosecutors from coming because we have a society now that is pro-crime
and I guess, anti-justice. That's why we're seeing this every single day. And it really is
heartbreaking to go down to the border and watch these people pour over in mass because I will
be very honest with you. Many of them are morbidly obese. They're wearing brand new clothes. Oh,
yeah. New cell phones too. New cell phones. And it's a joke, okay? So, they're coming over and
the reason I've talked to a lot of my friends who cover the border extensively and they say,
well, a lot of them will, you know, put on a brand new outfit because they know the media's
going to be there and they want to look good as they're crossing the border. Some of them
would come in and go straight to parties. I'm not even kidding. They literally come in and they go
straight to parties, folks. They go straight to the bar to celebrate. I mean, I've seen it. And
again, too, I've talked about the rapidly changing demographic in America. You know, I go out and I
do a lot of men on the street reports. That's usually what I do the most. And up in Dallas,
for the first time, I ran into a language barrier because I'm running into Cubans,
Venezuelans that don't speak English who, of course, have just crossed over to the border.
They've just gotten to whichever city the NGO gave them a bus ticket or plane ticket to. A lot of
them heading to New York, actually. I went into Piedras, Negras, Mexico because I wanted to go
ask these people, hey, exactly which state are you going to and why? And they're telling me how
many of their friends are already over here, which states they're living in, how many of their family
members are heading over as well, and which state they're going to. Yeah, tell me, I was going to
ask you that next. What states do you hear the most where they're going? New York, surprisingly.
And it's funny because I actually went straight from the border in Texas to New York. And I could
see in live time the huge demographic change. You're seeing the illegal immigrants all over.
A lot of the times my friends would be like, come on, Stab, you can't tell that person's illegal.
And it's like, no, I can. I can tell they don't speak English. I can tell they just got over here.
You can tell by their brand new clothes. You can tell by the fact that they're flooding
our airports right now. And they all have, of course, the documentation that they received
from these NGOs. So again, you know, I come up here and this is a very repetitive thing. This
is nothing new that I'm talking about. But more importantly, it's like, if this continues to go
on for another two years, where will our country be? I'm already seeing the very open change.
What's it going to look like in two years? I remember I was down at the police station here.
It was probably like two years ago, maybe less. I was down there filing a report or something.
And there was a gentleman outside, middle aged gentleman, who looked like really,
like in trouble. And he was out there and I'm walking in and he kind of like comes up to me
kind of aggressively didn't didn't touch me or anything, but kind of comes up to me like he,
I couldn't really understand what he was saying. He needed help or whatever. He couldn't speak
English. He looked really desperate, really out of his sorts. And I walked into the police station
and I said, before I even was filing the charge, whatever, I said, Hey, you guys know there's a
gentleman outside. He looks like he's in real trouble. Do you know what's going on? And they
just said, Oh, yeah, he's been out here. He's been out there for three days. He's an illegal
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say, well, let's bring over the Cubans and the Venezuelans because they're fleeing a
communistic or socialistic state. They understand true oppression. They understand it.
Like we have refugees, we have refugees and we have asylum seekers. Yeah.
Yeah, exactly. So, you know, I talked to my friends about this and I'm like, well,
this is actually a really interesting angle here and I want to go talk to the people coming over
here because, you know, right now we're seeing all of these, oh, Hispanics are fleeing the Democratic
vote and it's because of course Hispanics are very primarily Catholic. They're very family-oriented.
They're very pro-life, very religious. So of course the Democrats stand for everything
that they hate and despise. So I'm talking to these immigrants and I'm like, you know,
what do you think about Joe Biden? And a lot of them view him as this nice man who's giving them
an opportunity for a better life, giving them the opportunity to work, that he opened the
borders for them. And so, you know, I can see the mentality from a lot of people of like, okay,
well, these people are fleeing oppression. They understand what socialism looks like. So they're
not going to vote it back in. But in reality, they're voting for Democrats and they're voting
for Joe Biden because they see the Democratic Party, as we all know, as the nice party that
gave them that opportunity. So they're going to give them, in turn, their vote. The free stuff party
and then, and then the other level of this too is they have all these church groups involved in
this. They have all these Catholic church groups involved in this. So then they come in and they
go through Catholic church groups or these groups and they think, oh, this is good. It's a Christian
Catholic thing I'm getting involved with too. But no, it's all cartel run.
Exactly. And it is so funny too, because again, I went from Eagle Pass to New York. So I'm talking
to these migrants who, you know, were extorted by the cartels, extorted by the Mexican police,
dealt with human trafficking, drug trafficking, saw people get murdered in the Darien Gap.
Like they dealt with all these very horrific things, talking about what's going on in their
country, their tyrannical government. And then I go to New York and I'm looking at what Americans,
okay, are focused in on. And I'm in the middle of a deodorant free monkeypox protest about how
that is the greatest thing that's facing our nation right now is the monkeypox, and I quote,
pandemic. It's ridiculous. And it's just so funny to me to see the disconnect between Americans and
the issues that we're focused in on versus what's actually going on at our border.
Okay. Well, we can transition to this now. I've seen some of this footage. I don't know. I think
you've put a lot of it on Band-Aid video, maybe all of it. But this is some of the craziest footage
I think you've ever gotten. There's really no sense of reality, common sense. I mean,
this is just total twilight zone stuff. These people are out here protesting monkeypox or
they want free monkeypox vaccine. I don't even know how to cover it either. I don't even know.
Protesting monkeypox and they're mad that the government is not providing them
with more vaccines for monkeypox, which again, only affects the gay community.
And so I talked to a lot of my friends about this and they're like, well,
it's a little bit hard to talk about monkeypox because we don't want to just straight out come
out and say it's a degenerate disease that comes from having promiscuous sex and orgies.
And so of course, what I love to do with these types of things is let the gay community speak
for themselves. So that's what I did with this interview. Yeah, I don't know if you want to play
any of this. If you want to pitch to it, but this is some of the wack, this is some of the most wacky
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at least some of the stuff you can kind of understand and make sense of where it's coming from.
This is like you're on a different planet now. What in the hell is even going on? I don't know
if you want to play some of this footage, but it's like, but it's true. 99% of the monkeypox
patients are having anal intercourse. That's just a fact. It's an STD essentially.
They're in orgies and they're upset at the government because after they contract an
STD from being in a gay orgy, they say that it's because of monkeypox and it's because of the
government's response to monkeypox. Yeah, we can play a little bit of this video because it's,
again, listen to this own community from their mouth themselves, how they're contracting monkeypox
and how it is spreading. So you were just talking about sex work, monkeypox, for the communities
who maybe don't understand what monkeypox is. Can you explain it to us? Yes, well monkeypox is an
infection. They try not to say monkeypox too much because they live in races, but it has
like terrible effects and it has a lot to do with robbing and it has a lot to do with robbing,
but in parts that's why it affects people while engaging in sex. And for that, it is important
to know that for some people, sex isn't just pleasure, it also works, like in my community of
sex workers. So as a sex worker, how has your community been impacted by these talks? Well,
it has been terribly impacted in the fact that many of us are very scared, right? And because of
that, we are making decisions not to work. So are people in the community having a lot less sex,
would you say, because of the fear of monkeypox? Unfortunately, a lot of people are choosing
not to have sex, but for sex workers, that's not a choice at times, because that depends if you
eat or you don't eat. So that creates a whole mental health issue because you are dealing
with extreme anxiety while working. Imagine if you've been working in a, in a, in a donut place,
right? You have to deal with anxiety or getting something all the time. That's how it is.
So I'm not even gonna try to make sense of that. Instead, let's, let's do a logical comparison here.
That would be like a drug dealer. Let's say that there's been a bunch of, I don't know,
let's say AIDS or something that's been spreading because of needles, right? And this guy sells
heroin and you go up and you say, Hey, you know, there's been a big outbreak of needles
spreading AIDS in New York. And the drug dealer says, Yeah, as a heroin dealer, this is impacting
me. People aren't doing heroin anymore. It's really such a tragedy. Mental health crisis for me,
because I get anxiety now. What if I get AIDS from doing heroin? Like I can't live that way.
And so, I mean, that, but it's, it's just what's so amazing to me is, okay, yeah, you're afraid
you're going to get monkeypox because you know, the activity you're doing is causing monkeypox,
but somehow that society's problem. And that's what I wanted to highlight too with this interview
is that our society is so degenerate and we are so far away from God or any foundation of,
you know, traditional family or decency that these people are out in the streets of New York
on a Sunday at 6pm protesting because they can't be involved in a disgusting orgy. I'm just going
to be very honest with this. They're, they're up there and they're protesting because they can't
be involved in this promiscuous unprotected sex. They think that the government should be responsible
for them and they're dealing with what they say is a mental health crisis. The sign literally says
whores for public safety. I mean whores for public health. Yeah, exactly.
It's absolutely ridiculous. Vaccines for sex workers. What do they want it for free?
Yeah, pretty much. They're blaming the government for their own bad decisions and I'm like, how
about you just don't be a degenerate and you don't have sex? And then it turns into this whole
argument of like, well, I have to have sex. And I took video, some of this person's speech and she
goes, I wish I was at home screwing somebody right now, but I can't because of monkeypox because I
need the vaccine. Everybody needs this vaccine and the government hates us and they won't give us
this vaccine. And they're literally using the reasoning as to why they need it so they can
have promiscuous sex. It's just, it's so degenerate. Like, I don't know. It's honestly, it's wild
because I remember growing up and I went to a Catholic grade school and then a Christian high
school and they used to do, they would do fear mongering and they would show you images of STDs
and all this stuff to try to, you know, make sure you don't have promiscuous sex. You could say
it's a bad thing, good thing. I'm not claiming either, but I'm saying, oh, wow, you, there's
general awareness being raised that STDs are spreading and now we know how they're spreading.
And so people don't want to get an STD like, oh no, and that affects me as a whore. Like, oh,
what a tragedy. And, but I guess they want free stuff. They want respect. They want us to be in
rage for them. It's like, no, that's your issue. You're going to have to find it out for yourself.
And again, everybody's focused in on monkeypox when our border is wide open. I went to New
Yorkers as well. And another one of the videos I conducted is what is the craziest thing you've
seen as a New Yorker. And I did this to highlight how degenerate and how much our cities have degraded
to where people are watching, you know, crack addicts rub feces on their face. And they're
like, that's just a normal day in New York. You see it all the time. One time a guy was selling
me crack while he was paying. It was just a funny thing to see. And I'm like, does nobody
understand that this is not normal and this is not how we should be living in America?
And by the way, when they ran these studies in New York, it wasn't just that 90, I think,
I think it was 98 or 99% of the monkeypox were homosexual men having anal sex, almost half
of them had HIV. So they're running around having multiple sex partners at these orgies
being HIV positive. This is too much. It truly is. And it's the best part about New York, too,
is that they're protesting against monkeypox. The dirtiest city I've ever seen in my life.
Trash. It's literally a mountain of trash. Hot trash everywhere. Even the New Yorkers were
laughing and they were like, it's hot trash here. It just, it is what it is. I was going
up to them and I was like, your city stinks. There's trash everywhere. And there's crackheads
shooting up. And you know what's so sad too? It really is a reflection of our society because
people move to New York because they want that. Yeah, they want that degenerate lifestyle.
They want that degenerate society. There's kids that are playing at this park 50 feet away.
Well, people are shooting up and parents are just like, Oh, this is just New York. That's just
America. Now the kids are getting monkeypox and it's confirmed they had contact with gay men.
I mean, geez, folks. So Savannah Hernandez, thank you so much. You can find her channel on Band
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Leading a frontal assault on the lies of the new world order, it's Alex Jones.
You're listening to the Alex Jones show. And now your host, Gerald Salente.
Hey, great being on the Alex Jones show. You know, we just had a big rally over here this past weekend
up in Kingston, four corners of freedom where the seeds of democracy was sown.
Right across the street, you probably can, I could throw a rock and hit it.
This is where they at the county courthouse before it was county courthouse. That's the
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Over 70 percent of America's constitution comes from the constitution that was written right there.
The constitution has been destroyed by little freaks, clowns playing presidents,
mayors, senators, congressmen, one freak after another. So we had this big rally here.
We had Judge Andrew Napolitano, Scott Ritter, Gary Knoll, Progressive Radio Network,
Phil Geraldi, former CIA guy, packed people out in the streets of the huge garden,
the crown garden, couldn't fit them all.
We sent out several thousand press releases over the past three weeks,
ran it on Spectrum, ads everywhere,
banned, nothing, zero, zero coverage. The local newspaper up here, The Daily Freeman,
Daily Piece of Nothing, a front page story about some stupid thing,
a little jasmine tears or some stupid thing with people outside, not a peep, not a peep about peace,
nothing. I'm a trend forecaster. I will put my track record up against anybody in the world.
I've been out of it for 42 years. Show me your track record, show me your books, show me your
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howitzers, tens of thousands of rounds of ammunition. Last Friday, the United States
announced they were sending more weapons, almost another 300 million. Over 60 billion
dollars has been spent of our money sent to Ukraine. It's not my country. I'm an American.
Prestitudes, look it up in Wikipedia. I'm the guy that created the word.
The media whores that could pay to put out by the corporate pimps in a government whormasters,
like a little Jake Tapper. Hey, Tapper, how come you don't tap about peace? You only bow down
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Yeah, yes, yes, yes, I take my jacket off. Caught me heat wave, tropical heat wave,
temperatures rising. Yeah, when music used to be music, I don't have air conditioning,
a heat air conditioner. They are fans, but they're too loud so I can't kind of shut them off.
Talking about the war, the war started.
Again, I say it over and over again. If I asked you to give me a gun to blow the guy's brains
out across the street, you're an accessory to the crime. America's an accessory to the crime.
We're at war with Russia and not a peep from the prostitutes about peace. You know why?
Because these little media whores love wars.
You know, there's an article in the New York Times today regarding Alex Jones and they use the word
misinformation that is shaping today's misinformation, misinformation, huh?
Well, first of all, I find that sexist. How dare you call it misinformation?
How about Mr. Information? I mean, let's be stupid because the crap that they spewed out in this
article. This is the newspaper, the toilet paper of record. You want to talk about selling misinformation?
How about the Mrs. Misinformation that's spewed out the disgusting lie
that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction?
And they had the proof with the aluminum tubes that they got from Niger and Nigeria,
some crap they made up. How about that misinformation?
How about misinformation that killed over a million people in Iraq, according to some of the data?
And who's that? Colin Powell. Yep, with his little colon of crap because that's what crap goes down,
the colon. At the United Nations, a little colon of crap selling the Iraq war. And here's the toilet
paper record. They call themselves the paper record. There's a toilet paper record because
this is only good to wipe crap up with. Talking about misinformation one after another. Hey,
we're right next to you up here in Kingston. Why didn't you cover our peace rally? I'll tell you
why, Solenti, because we're medial whores that love wars. We're slimy low life pieces of scum.
Quote you, Solenti. Why, how dare you? How dare you? Yep. Never a word from the mainstream
about the words of George Washington and his farewell address. When he warned that any nation
which quote indulges towards another in habitual hatred or in habitual fondness is in some degree
a slave. He told Americans observe good faith and justice toward all nations. Cultivate peace
and harmony with all. Why, you little jerk, Solenti, quoting George Washington
and how dare you? You mean a man that actually fought? Unlike mad dog Big Mouth Mattis,
he wasn't on the firing line as much as I know. Didn't cross the Delaware for peace. No, you were
over there invading a foreign nation that was no threat, did nothing to us in Iraq,
and you destroyed Fallujah. You murderous freak. Oh, what's a Fallujah? Who cares?
What's a hell with Washington? You know why? By their deeds,
the mainstream media does not observe good faith and justice to all.
Instead, their one sided Warhawk narratives are making Americans slaves to the military industrial
complex. Indulges, nations which indulges towards another in habitual hatred or in habitual fondness
is in some degree a slave. And there's Dwight D. Eisenhower, five-star general, supreme commander
of the Allied Forces, two-term president, warning us in his farewell address on January 17, 1961
that the military industrial complex is robbing the nation of the genius of the scientists,
the sweat of the laborers, and the future of the children.
So this is the same military industrial complex
where America's defense secretary Lloyd Austin comes from. You can't make this crap up.
Former guy that sat on the board of directors of Raytheon,
the second largest defense contractor in the world.
Yep. You can't make this up.
Stay safe. Stay safe. Look at that. You can't do a comic book better than this.
And it's real. Real freaks. Real freaks in control and destruction of our lives.
And you got last month, you had the Senate Armed Service Committee approved an $858 billion
dollar military budget for next year, not $860 million, salente, $858.
I've got to keep that number a little lower. As our country's rotting, going down the crap,
a $16 billion sent to this comedian, $60 billion of our hard-earned money to a guy that played a
comedian in a sitcom and his role was the president of Ukraine and then becomes the president of Ukraine.
Lloyd Austin from Raytheon, now our department of defense said,
not a peep about peace from the prostitutes. I'm heartbroken. We gave everything we could.
This thing cost a lot of money to put on. Totally peaceful. Oh, look at that.
A daddy's girl. She'd be nobody if daddy wasn't mayor of Baltimore, but with a big attitude,
man, or women. Yep. It's one big club and you ain't in it, as George Collins said. Nancy Pelosi.
Oh, now she's going to go to Taiwan, huh? Oh, you're going to fix it over there?
Yeah. Like you fixed Libya with your murderous war? Like you fixed Syria with your murderous
war? Look at these guys. Look at this guy. Yeah, general blob. That's it.
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The answer to 1984 is 1776. You're listening to the Alex Jones show with Gerald Salente.
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everybody. Oh I can't say blackballing anymore. If I say whiteballing then I would be racist.
I gotta be careful here. This country has gone down so terribly. I have to tell you the rally
yesterday you could go to occupy piece occupy piece dot com and you could see the whole the whole show
had a hot damn band here what a band real music not this real instruments they had to play instruments
and everything you know. Now they're great great great time the people were wonderful
packed out out in the street all over no problems at all no problems at all everything went smooth
people were wonderful but I'm very very sad as I said we sent out thousands and thousands and
thousands of press releases zero zero zero coverage pieces not allowed so there was a
gallop poll that just came out that showed I'm not making it it is the band the hot damn band
man they were really real real cats kittens yeah yeah we put on a we give the best we can
that's that's the crown garden this is the back of the garden we have a stage up there
I mean this is behind the 1750s from this broken house the siege democracy was so here
and it breaks my heart to see what's happened that's why you bought these buildings because
what they represent anyway you got the the gallop poll shows ready just 16 percent of
us adults have respect or confidence in newspapers you mean the clown paper like the toilet paper
record all the news that's fit to print what all the oh all the news that's fit to print
I'll tell you what's fit to print I'll tell you all the news that's fit to print
how dare you think for yourself you are not allowed to think for yourself
we will tell you all the news that's fit to print
so only 16 percent of the people
adults have respect or confidence in newspapers and just 11 percent in tv news
you know why they promote fear they sell hysteria how about the covid war fear and hysteria
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grand total of two dollars a week what was a slice of pizza like about three dollars and 50 cents
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spit it back out for the media yeah what do we got inflation now 9.1 so that's the media they sell
fear and hysteria they incite hatred they epitomize disrespect the founding fathers and then like
georgia uh eisenhower the whitey eisenhower never repeat what they have to say everybody that
wants war with russia and supports ukraine you are disloyal to the founding fathers i am not
not you are cowards to the founding fathers i am not you are a disgrace to what this country was
built upon i am not but i gerald selenchi had been blackballed by the media oh whiteballed
from a bunch of no balls media i used to be on opera the today show good morning america
over and over new york times used to quote me wall street journal one after another nope
selenchi you don't play the game the way we want to we have audiences we have to bring in we don't
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ah world war three has begun they're sending our billions and billions of dollars to keep it going
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you know whatever he is to the arm services with with another these eyes i don't know how many drugs
they got with eyes like that the matters got these big eyes like that too warning about what's
going on with china and how they're and he's in indonesia warning what the hell you're doing in
indonesia come back to america what are you doing over there oh you mean indonesia that we over
through one time and kill the guy oh that indonesia look at it look at his cat's eyes man
and he's telling me what to do you're telling me what to do that's like bringing on lower the
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saying one of the us's goals in ukraine is to see a weakened russia hey you you are not
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i could care less about russia i could care less about china i want a strong america
taiwan oh why don't you tell me the story of taiwan and how it happened
changkai who what's a changkai shek yeah oh you mean the place they call for most of when i was a
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what's loyden austin on the board of directors of ray theon isn't that a nice word technologies
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bombs away yeah i'm in general i love war i don't i am a warrior for the prince of peace
and by the way i'm a fighter too and i'll fight for my life but i don't bother anybody else
i only attack the attacker and nobody's attacking us that threatens him
yeah the prince of peace whacked up on a cross after he throws the goldman sacks gang
the marrow lynch mob the jp morgan chase
syndicate out of the temple well money changes hey what do you mean we're in charge
three days later he's on the cross we have mentally ill psychopathic sociopathic
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that's how they look at us nothing more than plantation workers of slave landia
the arrogance the arrogance of these public servants and by the way when the clowns there he is
a little daddy's boy born on third base and 30 at home run another good member of the club
be nobody if daddy wasn't mario and he renamed the tappanese bridge after his father the mario
and qualmo and qualmo yeah hey how about calling it the luigi charlontano bridge uh that's my real
ass name by the way salentano they changed it you know they had all this stuff going on
when you came to america and adriano charlontano look him up it's really they say salentano but
it's charlontano he was the Elvis Presley of italy yep anyway we got freaks and fools running and
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scott ridder philgeraldi cia guy one was cia guy who quit by the way he quit the cia he's a real man
because he knew they all knew that saddam was saying did not have weapons of mass destruction
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the polian couldn't beat russia hitler killed 25 million of them operation barba rosa couldn't
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even the occupiers admit we will win he said could you imagine that even the occupiers admitted we
will win yep but we will celebrate against all odds because ukranians won't be cowed
yeah he also goes on to say by the way i'm gonna come back to it later when we get back
back about how ukraine was killing all those people in the donbass region for the last eight
years doesn't put in those words mankind was put an end to war or war will put an end to mankind
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i was talking before about disguise the linsky the comedian on a sitcom in
ukraine that became play the president ukraine and the sitcom became president
preserving unity now working together for victory is the most important national task
which we will definitely fulfill this applies to our defense and the war independence
it goes on to say celebrate the linsky reminded citizens that next week
ukranians will celebrate the day of ukraine statehood
it goes celebrate during such a brutal war in the sixth month you ready after eight years of war
in donbas we will celebrate oh wait a minute after eight years of war in donbas
you mean the donbas where you killed over 15 000
ukranians that feel like they're russians in violation of the minsk agreement
that was put together by germany
and france that you violated that this isn't picked up in the media
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and as putin said from the beginning you have to abide by the minsk agreement you
violated it admitting an eight-year war there they weren't fighting against you
do that area the donbas region they pulled away after the united states over through
the democratically elected government of victor yana kovic in 2014 they voted for him
they didn't want it they weren't going with you guys you violated that agreement it's right here
yep avoid avenues of foreign entanglement in innumerable ways such attachments
are particularly alarming to the truly enlightened and independent patriot
it said joys washington oh you mean
enlightened and independent patriots like myself
who hold launched occupy peace to close down all the bases overseas
bring home the troops secure the homeland nobody coming in anymore we can't take care of our own
we take care of our own then we'll welcome in and put the troops to work to rebuilding
our third world infrastructure the wpa project work progress administration project for the 21st
century is our roads and bridges are collapsing and giving them skills rather than the crap that
they're teaching them in the military oh oh and then if you want to go to war let the people vote
you want to take our money to go to ukraine let the people vote let the people vote
let's occupy peace i honor the founding fathers i am an independent and enlightened
patriot i write a magazine i put the facts out there you ready washington europe has a set
of primary interests in other words they got their own deal which to us have none yet even fighting
back and forth for centuries or a very remote relation oh you mean we're not there with nato
back then they could have done it back then any ancient history there was going on all the time
hence she must be engaged in frequent controversies because they're all fighting for their primary
interests the causes of which are essentially foreign to our concerns hence therefore it must
be unwise in us to implicate ourselves by artificial ties in the ordinary vicissitudes
of her politics or the ordinary combinations and collusions of her friendships or enmities
language is a little different back then enemies if it's not our business washington
said he warned us no one says this i say it said it at the rally i write it but it's ignored
and instead they're selling hatred harmony liberal intercourse with all nations are recommended by
policy humanity and interest said washington but salinsky says russia will not stop until it gets
smashed and our Lloyd austin said we'll keep giving them weapons to keep smashing them and
the u.s is ready to move heaven and earth to help ukraine win the war against russia
i'm very very sad very sad i see the future and it's hell on earth if we don't stop this
the covet war they're ramping that up again mass time in minnet and wherever whatever you want to do
people are freaking out monkey pox will get you
here oh by the way elwin people don't come to new york because of the reason they said the city i'm
a city cat born the Bronx new york used to be that hardest place on the planet people from all
over the world wanted to come here hey i wish it was still that way man i wish it was the new york
i went to visit with my dad 20 years ago we'd be out on the streets going to shops having burgers
at like three in the morning i'm sorry i had to chime in because i heard you say that it's really
sad but i saw your party the occupied peace party i didn't realize you could boogie like that well
you know i don't know if it was jesus mohammed a buddha but one of them said you better boogie
before the lights go out because tomorrow is iffy that was a hell of a jig that uh that you you put
on display out there i gotta tell you folks i don't even think i could move like that
yeah it was a great time yeah thanks so much elwin thanks to everything and all you guys are doing
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