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InfoWars host David Knight interviews whistleblowers Joseph Hickman and John Kiriakou about their new book 'The Convenient Terrorist', which reveals how Abu Zubaydah was exploited by the U.S. government to justify their actions in the Middle East. Despite being presented as a high-ranking Al-Qaeda member, he had no direct involvement in planning or executing any attacks. The book also highlights how the U.S. government misled the public about Abu Zubaydah's status to perpetuate their war on terror and justify their use of torture techniques like waterboarding. In the discussion, John Kiriakou asserts that torturing someone often results in them providing false information to stop the pain, while Joseph Hickman notes that there is no instance where torture has actually worked in practice. The whistleblowers also touch on how the legal fiction of the situation allowed torture to continue despite it being recognized as a war crime in the past and the politicization of the intelligence community."

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You're listening to The Alex Jones Show.
Ladies and gentlemen, as we look out at the week before us, I cannot describe to you the amount of excitement I have in my heart.
We are seeing the criminals that have hijacked this nation and that have been preying on the American people be exposed
And as the curtain is pulled back, just be prepared for absolute nightmares to be discovered.
The establishment are soulless, satanist, child molesters, sadist, mercenaries, scum, dishonorable trash.
And Zucker of CNN,
He should be hauled up on criminal charges of sedition, racketeering, creating false narratives to remove an elected sitting president.
It's called espionage.
Espionage carried out at the behest of the multinational combines that are so ruthless, so ruthless in their ivory towers in London and Paris.
We're good to go.
The CNN fake news coming out, that's on Infowars.com, from O'Keefe, catching them red-handed, admitting that they're engaged in fraud, lying to their viewers, to start a war with Russia, is just spectacular.
We already know this, but just to see it coming out, and then the other CNN fake news stories on Russia, that they've had to pull back from last week, where it's totally made up, the whole thing disintegrating.
Now that's the good news.
The bad news is, the globalists aren't going to give up.
And I've been warning of it.
Cy Hirsch is warning of it.
David Knight is about to break it all down.
So here is David Knight.
And then I've got another tape report I did earlier this morning.
But I wanted to pop in first to just point out that history is happening right now in front of our faces.
And where I'm confident and I'm very excited.
Also, we have to understand the enemy is going to strike back.
We should all be brainstorming.
How is the enemy going to strike back?
That is the big question for all info warriors.
But know this, ladies and gentlemen.
Look how far we've already come together.
That's why they're coming after Infowars, because they're coming after you.
That's why we need your prayers and support now more than ever because the enemy is striking back and trying to punish anyone that dare expose them.
That's why this is a death battle.
This is a no-holds-barred
Toe to toe, no quarter given, none taken.
As the globalists even call it, a death battle.
This is a battle of ideologies.
This is a battle of good and evil.
Look at how they're allied with orthodox Islam.
That's all you need to know about these globalists.
Look at how they want to sexualize children.
Look at everything they do.
They are the scum of the earth.
They are a cult of bullies and their system's coming down.
All right, ladies and gentlemen, back to David Knight live in Suyo.
Alright, and that's Alex Jones, and he's going to be joining us with a further report after the break on this Tuesday, June 27, 2017.
I'm here in the studio, and of course we have this breaking CNN story, essentially leading us to the brink of war with Russia, so that they can get higher ratings.
Very cynical manipulation.
We all know Operation Mockingbird, well folks, it is full on.
And I think one of the most interesting things, we're going to play James O'Keefe's revelations, and of course in the last couple of days, we talked about this yesterday,
This fake story that broke down with CNN, now three people have been fired or have left, depending on how you view this, from CNN.
It's had massive repercussions, even within CNN itself.
We've had Brian Stelter, who was told by Jeff Zuckerberg, you know, let's basically stonewall this.
And now we have Jeff Zuckerberg, of course, saying viewers trust CNN more than ever.
I guess that's a relative.
I guess that's a relative thing.
I never trusted them.
You should never trust any news source.
You should look at it, think for yourself.
And the amazing thing about all this is how silent the mainstream media is.
Absolutely no news on it.
But we're going to have that news, so stay with us.
We'll be right back.
The struggle in the DNC fraud lawsuit continues.
You've had the current counsel for the plaintiffs request that the judge provide witness protection.
That notion was rejected, despite three mysterious deaths of potential witnesses in the case.
Seth Rich, Sean Lucas, and Barrington Wisenant Jr.
There are also stalwarts in the justice system that are trying to have this case dropped entirely.
Despite the obvious glaring issues that the DNC has had over the course of the last two years.
While the lawsuit represents Bernie Sanders supporters who feel they have been wronged by the DNC, Bernie Sanders has fallen silent on the issue.
Donald Trump tweeted out this weekend, Hillary Clinton colluded with the Democrat Party in order to beat crazy Bernie Sanders.
Is she allowed to collude?
Unfair to Bernie.
So now Donald Trump has done more to raise awareness for the DNC fraud lawsuit than Bernie Sanders has, who actually isn't one that had the election stolen from him.
Why is Bernie Sanders silent on the issue?
Maybe I guess he's busy with being investigated by the FBI for bank fraud.
For InfoWars.com, this is Owen Schroer.
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I know you can see me now, here's a surprise.
There's a lot to be thankful for right now.
We've seen the Supreme Court 9-0 back up President Trump and override activist Ninth and Fourth Circuit courts that
Engaged in judicial tyranny, by the very definition.
Just declaring the law null and void, a law that five-year-olds could easily understand.
The Constitution applies to U.S.
citizens, and the President has the right to block dangerous individuals from any nation he chooses.
The law is cut and dry.
That's a big victory, because it reverses a tide of judicial tyranny, of judicial activism, of judicial
Berserking that has seen the Ninth Circuit and others rule that you can't wear American flags in public schools in California because they're hurtful to others.
That is the level of judicial activism we're talking about.
And that ties in with Eric Trump and the other than posted others with straight faces.
Reporting on his short haircut, short haircut on the sides, kind of an aviator style haircut that you see soccer players and others with, trying to tie it together with Hitler and other quote white nationalists.
Now, those of us that aren't completely mentally ill laugh at that.
But you have to understand, they're dumbing the political currency down with the public to the point where people aren't aware of major policies, where people aren't aware of geopolitical systems.
All they're aware of is surface issues.
And this is the purest form of racism that we're talking about.
And by racism, I mean tribalism.
They are dumbing it down
To the fact that he has blonde hair, and the fact that he has straight hair, and the fact that he has blue eyes, and the fact that he is a WASP.
It doesn't matter if the family marries into Orthodox Jews.
It doesn't matter if Donald Trump got awards from the NAACP and Jesse Jackson for hiring record numbers of blacks and putting them in positions of authority when they did a good job.
That's how he promotes anybody.
None of that history matters.
None of it means anything.
Because in the final equation, it's about dumbing the debate down to the public.
He's so down in the weeds, obsessed over what color somebody is or racial code words, they don't care that big mega central banks for the last decade have shut down loaning to small businesses and to individuals.
They don't then worry about the deindustrialization.
They don't worry about Lloyd Blankfein of Goldman Sachs making jokes about how China has a better infrastructure than us, while he sits here and uses the US military to project power globally.
Now all of that said, Trump is in a prime position to make the Democrats a coastal sub-party that is basically, after 240 plus years, non-existent.
There will be other parties that emerge, like we've seen with UKIP in Europe.
And other areas of the world.
But that said, the Republicans now are basically in control of most of the states, most of the legislatures, most of the governorships, the House, the Senate, the executive, and the judicial.
He has not just a trifecta of the three branches of government.
But we have, as a populist uprising, a trifecta throughout the heartland and the rest of the producing nation.
And we also see numbers and statistics coming in where, quote, minorities, who are really the majority, want the birthright of private property, prosperity, and a Second Amendment.
They know America's not perfect.
It's had its problems.
But they want to focus on the positive because of the Internet.
Because of travel, because of the military, a lot of people have been around the world and they realize America's got its problems, but it's the best house in a bad neighborhood.
Because this planet is going into major crises and we need to come together, if we've got any shot at the future, come together around real policies, real prosperity, real ideas, instead of social distortion
Globalist think tank propaganda that's produced by the big foundations and then passed out through the CIA, through other agencies and through MSM.
This is weaponized, it's declassified, it's a fact.
I mean people are saying that James
Okay.
As the anti-human, anti-American organization it is.
But CNN, more than anybody, has killed themselves.
And they are the bellwether of the globalist sinking ship, where the propaganda and the lies just don't work anymore.
When people do watch it, it's almost like looking back at Sodom and Gomorrah.
Watch out, you might turn into a tower of salt.
But the reason I raise that is, the video's up on InfoWars.com, it's on PrisonPlanet.com, it's obviously on DrudgeReport.com, it's all over Project Veritas' site.
And it's another Death Star-level explosion of the globalists, another huge defeat where there's the producer.
No, Keef's got more coming out soon.
Bragging on hidden video about how they lie to the public and how they scam the public and how they deceive and how they don't have proof of the Russian narrative and the fact that he doesn't even really think it's fair.
But he's still there basically bragging about it because he's in that position of power.
And that's what these people get off on is keeping you in their box, keeping you in their paradigm, not seeing your mind open up and accelerate past
Even their intellect.
They want to suppress and control the narrative and basically run humanity in a ditch.
They're the most selfish, greedy, hateful people you can imagine.
I mean, we have CNN's own reporters caught over and over again every few days putting out fake stories that are verifiable.
You know, like the reporters that sit there and say that Trump
Never went and saw Scalise in the hospital and stuff like that.
And then nobody even gets in trouble when they get caught lying over and over and over and over again in the headlines because they think you're not paying attention.
I go back to Gruber.
That's why they do that.
Jonathan Gruber said, thank God the public doesn't pay attention.
And I see them doing this to myself and others with these deceptive headlines where what you see in the headline is not actually in the article.
And again, I know I'm telling you things that you already know.
The key to this is we are reaching the flashpoint, critical tipping point moment.
And the globalists know this.
And so everybody has to be on their toes and focused because
The globalists and these combines realize that their whole planetary program is going under because they themselves mismanaged it.
They themselves set it up to consolidate wealth and make people poor and thought they could keep that in the dark.
Well, of course they can't keep it in the dark with the type of surveillance grids and systems that are two-way streets.
So now we have to be in maximum vigilance mode and maximum activity mode in the animating contest for liberty, which is exciting and invigorating and empowering and realize in this critical time, the empire is going to strike back.
They're going to strike back in a big way and we should all be conscious of it.
And now I get to the negative news, but it's positive that we're here and able to cover it and to get ahead of it.
I said last week, the only way that the Trump Americana agenda is going to get derailed
I think?
To be taken down.
They've gone along with the fake Russia narrative.
They've tried to start World War 3 with Russia.
They've worked with CNN and other dinosaur media to sell the hoax that has led the war economy to the edge of World War 3.
They are the people leading our planet to the precipice for ratings as the producer says.
Think about that.
Think about how these individuals think that none of this is ever going to blow back on them.
They're so arrogant, they openly brag to people about how they're lying and deceiving the public.
Not thinking that, hey, you might not want to talk about this type of criminal activity in front of people if you're actually doing it.
But again, that's what makes them so dangerous.
And so now let's look at the Republican establishment.
Nikki Haley is way in over her head.
She comes off like a inward-looking,
Uh, nincompoop, who is on some type of weird existential power trip.
And again, it's this image, just like with Obama, of women who've never been in the military, and never killed anybody, or never even probably been in a fistfight, throwing their weight around.
It's just an archetypal image that just speaks of destruction, speaks of failed enterprises, speaks of destruction of civilization.
And you've got her sending out this...
Twisted tweet yesterday that we'll put up on screen, where she tells the Russians if anything else happens in Syria, it's going to be blamed on the Syrian government, Assad, Russia, and or Iran.
That completely signals, just as the British ambassador to Syria said on the BBC a few months ago, to the rebels that are about to collapse, the ISIS and Al Qaeda forces that our military's done a great job crushing now that Trump let them off the leash.
It sends a signal to them, now is the time to stage another chemical attack.
They got caught four years ago doing it.
They got caught three years ago doing it.
They got caught a year ago doing it.
Even our own government, even our own military, even the UN has come out and said it's clearly the rebels launching this bill to bring the United States in.
And now, the only way Trump can basically destroy himself and us is letting the globalists manipulate him through their final backup plan, which is always war.
And you have Nikki Haley who meets with Ivanka Trump and meets with Pence.
Yesterday and then puts out this tweet saying if anything happens, it's your fault and we're going to hit you.
And this is after we've seen Russian aircraft flown by Syrians shot down.
We've seen armored columns bombed.
We've seen the airbase hit.
That's three strikes that the Russians have put up with.
Now they're saying you fly into the airspace.
We're going to shoot you down.
So now we're in a game of brinksmanship with Russia that could trigger a larger war at any time.
And you've got the neocons and the John McCain's of the world in there cheerleading and pushing for Trump to launch a wider war.
And that's the way the globalists always try to get us back under their control, into their systems.
So now is the time for everybody to be calling the White House, everybody to be tweeting at the President, everybody to be sending out Infowars.com articles, everybody to be sending this audio and this video out to the President, because he does listen to the people.
And back about two months ago, when they tried to launch that last big war, Trump came out and said, look, we're not going to have boots on the ground, we're not removing Assad.
But his own advisors like McMaster and others were on the news saying that they were going to remove Assad and the ISIS and Al Qaeda rebels.
So again, Trump is one man trying to manage this giant system and he needs our support.
He needs us to keep them honest, as Stephen Bannon has said, so that we raise the alarms as watchmen and women and modern Paul Revere's on the wall.
So again, there's an article out by Cy Hirst today.
It's up on InfoWars.com.
Or he points out that how Trump got manipulated across that red line with the chemical weapons a few months ago.
And clearly that was strategic, to look strong, to get the NEOCON's office back.
The Russians understood what that was.
But now there have been other aircraft shot down, there have been armored columns blown up that are battling ISIS.
And clearly there are internal groups in our military, it's infiltrated like everything else, that are trying to start a wider war right now.
That's with Russia, the very last country we want to get in a fight with, ladies and gentlemen.
They're not involved in our internal politics, that's been proven.
I mean, everybody's involved, some, but nothing compared to China.
And they're not the enemy.
They're a Christian nation that's rebuilding.
They've got massive resources.
We should be in business with Russia, not having continual conflict with them because a bunch of neocons and a bunch of neolibs.
I want to play with the whole planet like it's a grand chess board.
It's emblematic that as the tide of globalism goes out, you see David Rockefeller dying this year.
You see Brzezinski.
I think you're going to see other top globalists die this year because it's all emblematic of the great turning and the great change that is taking place right now.
But understand this.
She 100% signaled.
Another demon in a red dress.
To the world, as the U.S.
Ambassador to the U.N., she signaled, just like Samantha Powers and others did a few years ago, the exact same neocon policy, but said even stronger language, anything happens, it's your fault.
That is belligerent.
That is out of control.
Syria is a sovereign nation.
Russia was invited in there.
Our own military came to a census five years ago and told Obama we're not going to back Al-Qaeda going into Syria in the civil war.
We're not going to be their air force.
So then the media changed the name to ISIS to confuse the public.
But it didn't.
The public now understands it's the same people.
Colonel Schaffer's exposed this on the broadcast.
He's briefed Congress in secret on these issues.
We broke all of this four plus years ago before anybody else had it.
And I'm only pointing out, that's why they call us fake news, because they are so angry.
The criminal elements, the CIA and others, and the Ford Foundation, and the Rockefeller Foundation, and the Board of Governors of the FCC have all openly said they hate us because we're putting out narratives that are true.
Remember that big Google contract a few months ago that they admit it was real?
Millions of dollars for subcontractor companies.
To go in and delist InfoWars as real news and say it's fake and vote it down.
They didn't change their algorithm.
They artificially go out into the public to manipulate it from without.
Because if they manipulate the algorithm, it blinds Google.
So they didn't do that out of goodness.
They did that out of keeping their algorithm real, but they went and artificially manipulated the algorithm from the outside.
They don't tinker with the central algorithm.
They just manipulate the algorithm from the outside.
And it's said in there, remember?
It's said in there.
Look, he changed the course of the whole Syria thing.
He had Ron Paul on, and he had these other people on, and they're not credible to speak on this issue.
Well, the Ron Paul was quoting the UN.
That's what's crazy.
It was because it was credible, and we were showing examples from four years ago, and two years ago, and three years ago, when they got caught staging the chemical attacks.
When the rebels got caught.
So it was because of that that they put out a contract to delist us.
They don't put contracts out over quote fake news.
That's what CNN is.
They put out the Megyn Kelly contract on us and all these contracts out to try to discredit us and brand us as fraud because they know we're real and we're building an effective opposition to the globalists that's based on moral, free market, Christian, open society values.
I don't mean George Soros' Open Society.
Everything with him again is a counterfeit.
Real Open Free Societies for folks that want to be an open, real Renaissance Free Societies.
Now, David Knight is coming up.
He's hosting the transmission today.
I'll be back tomorrow live in the studio.
But big things are happening, ladies and gentlemen.
You've got the O'Keefe situation, that video coming up of CNN committing suicide basically, and so much more.
But just keep your eye on the prize, keep reaching out to these brainwashed liberals.
They mean well, their whole identity has basically been put into a lie.
All of us have got to work harder and harder at not laughing at them and not being as mean to them, even though it's hard not to do when they're calling for our deaths.
Because you have to understand, these are cult victims that have to be somehow deprogrammed.
This is serious business.
They've been under serious hardcore mind control to now where they see
You know, the same haircut that Beckham has, the soccer player on Eric Trump, they flip out.
I mean, this is devastating mind control, where they can't even see an American flag without crapping themselves.
And then the government, the media, they're catering to it, feeding into the mental illness, trying to normalize this.
This is all done by design.
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All right, and that was Alex Jones breaking this down.
I'm David Knight here in the studio on this Tuesday, June 27, 2017.
Alex is breaking down how very important what is happening in Syria is right now.
We have to understand that the Trump White House is divided.
We have McMaster who came in and replaced Flynn.
And we have an interesting article, again, from Circa.
They're the people who went in and took a look at the FISA court.
Pointing out that the FBI had violated the law in terms of coming after individuals, unmasking them, using the NSA for these purposes.
Now it goes a little bit deeper.
We find out that the FBI has retaliated, apparently, against Michael Flynn.
He had taken the side of somebody who had a sexual discrimination lawsuit against then number two
FBI Director Andrew McCabe, who is now acting FBI Director.
And it was two years after that that they came after Michael Flynn.
Now what happened with that?
As Michael Flynn left and he was replaced by McMasters, somebody who had worked closely with Petraeus, somebody who was committed to regime change, just like Nikki Haley, that's when we had the attack
Supposedly in response to a sarin gas attack.
And of course, a Seymour Hersh article exposes how that is false.
We're going to take a look at that.
We're going to take a look at what Nikki Haley is doing.
We're also going to take a look, of course, at CNN.
This implosion that we're seeing here at CNN.
It was a couple of weeks ago that we had the Megyn Kelly thing.
We saw the duplicity, the lies, the targeted destruction of the mainstream media targeted at Alex Jones.
And he exposed that with what he recorded in terms of the pre-interview discussions that they had.
Now we have video that has surfaced from Project Veritas from James O'Keefe.
Showing people inside CNN, talking about how this is absolute BS.
That was his words.
He spelled it out for you.
I'm not going to do it on air.
Pointing out how it is absolute BS, he said there's no evidence here of any of this.
Something that we all know, but they're doing it for business purposes.
Talking about how Zucker is saying, okay, great, you guys reported on this climate change stuff, but let's get back to Russia.
That's where the money is.
A very cynical effort to manipulate information.
And a key part of this, I think, when I was starting to look at this today as I surveyed the mainstream news sources, I found it very interesting.
There was absolutely nothing about CNN's fake Russian news narrative, or retractions, or firings, or the stonewalling even within CNN.
We have a reporter, Brian Stelter, who says, what's going on?
And he gets shut down.
And of course, they came back and said, we're not going to have any more stories about Russia until it gets approved at the vice presidential level.
And then we had these firings that happened today.
But there was absolutely nothing about it on Reuters, nothing about it on The Guardian, nothing about it on The Wall Street Journal, nothing about it, of course, on CNN, except they had a feature where Don Lemon was scolding the media for not standing up to the White House.
Washington Post?
Nothing at all about it.
They simply complain and whine about the fact that they didn't have cameras at the White House press briefing.
We're going to talk about that as well.
The self-absorbed posturing media, represented by Jim Acosta at the White House press conference.
Stay with us, we'll be right back.
The empire's on the run.
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The struggle in the DNC fraud lawsuit continues.
You've had the current counsel for the plaintiffs request that the judge provide witness protection.
That notion was rejected despite three mysterious deaths of potential witnesses in the case.
Seth Rich, Sean Lucas, and Barrington Wisenant Jr.
There are also stalwarts in the justice system that are trying to have this case dropped entirely.
Despite the obvious glaring issues that the DNC has had over the course of the last two years.
While the lawsuit represents Bernie Sanders supporters who feel they have been wronged by the DNC, Bernie Sanders has fallen silent on the issue.
Donald Trump tweeted out this weekend, Hillary Clinton colluded with the Democrat Party in order to beat crazy Bernie Sanders.
Is she allowed to collude?
Unfair to Bernie.
So now Donald Trump has done more to raise awareness for the DNC fraud lawsuit than Bernie Sanders has, who actually is the one that had the election stolen from him.
Why is Bernie Sanders silent on the issue?
Maybe I guess he's busy with being investigated by the FBI for bank fraud.
For InfoWars.com, this is Owen Schroer.
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Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.
I'm David Knight.
We have a very busy show today.
Even before this news from Project Veritas about CNN, the internal admission that they caught on tape, that they know that this is false.
They don't believe any of this stuff.
They're simply doing it because they think it's good business for them.
They're feeding people what they want to hear.
They're confirmation biased, and they're willing to lie to you about that.
Of course, this is nothing new, but it is new to hear them say it on camera.
And this is all part of the implosion that began at the end of last week.
And we're going to talk about that.
We're going to talk about what's going on in Syria.
Very serious there.
We also have articles about Sheriff Joe Arpaio.
He had a trial that began yesterday.
They're trying to essentially bring criminal charges against him for obeying the immigration law.
We had Obama say, we're not going to enforce immigration law.
We're not going to allow the Border Patrol to enforce immigration law.
You better not do that.
Sheriff Joe was detaining people and turning them over to federal agents.
Now this is part of a program called Secure Communities.
This is something, by the way, I went to a meeting here in Austin, where the Democrats were furious at the black sheriff that was there.
They were all over him, saying, how dare you turn over criminals to immigration control?
And of course, he was voted out of office, and they put in this lady who said, I'm not going to turn anybody over except for three crimes.
And then one of those crimes was not sexual assault or sexual crimes.
And she goes, okay, four crimes.
Four crimes is like Monty Python's Spanish Inquisition.
We're going to go four or three.
No, make that four.
No, make that five.
People started pointing out, but you're letting violent criminals go and not turning them over.
But that's what Sheriff Joe Arpaio was doing.
And a judge then, in addition to the president saying, we're not going to enforce immigration laws, we had a judge say, you better not enforce immigration laws.
They continued to do that, and now they're coming after him for criminal charges.
And it's very interesting because the Justice Department...
Under Attorney General Loretta Lynch, and we heard all of this stuff from James Comey saying, well, let's just call this a matter because we don't want to interfere with an election.
And James Comey said, I did the things that I did because I didn't want to interfere with the election.
But they went after Joe, Sheriff Joe Arpaio, because they wanted to interfere with the election.
And they did it in a way to interfere with the election, but they're not content with that.
They want to put this 85-year-old man in jail.
And he is asking for Jeff Sessions to testify.
He's asking for them to do things, and quite frankly, Jeff Sessions ought to just shut down this investigation.
If he had any integrity, he would do that.
He should do that.
This is an outrage that the Justice Department would continue on with this show trial.
Taking somebody who was in law enforcement and trying to put them in jail because they enforced the law, that the president and a judge said, we're not going to enforce the law.
We're going to act as tyrants.
The law is in my mouth.
I'm going to shut this down.
Anybody who tries to enforce this law, we're going to come after you.
We also have coming up in the second hour, we have John Kiriakou.
He is a CIA whistleblower on torture.
He was the one who exposed what was going on there.
He actually went to jail for that.
He has a book called The Convenient Terrorist, and quite frankly, it dovetails quite well with what we're seeing in terms of this false narrative coming out of Syria, where there are elements within the Trump administration pushing for war.
Mickey Haley, McMaster.
There are other people, like Mattis, who wants to fight ISIS.
He says, we're not there for regime change, we want to fight ISIS.
But there is, within the National Security Council, under McMaster, they are pushing very hard for
We're good.
And that is not to get involved in regime change, to create more chaos in the Middle East, and to bring us to the brink of war with Russia.
Very, very incredibly dangerous and irresponsible, what Nikki Haley is doing.
As well as McMaster.
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The false news story, the latest Russian nonsense that was coming out of these people.
It was the Russian investment fund with ties to Trump officials.
That was a CNN story.
It cited a single anonymous source.
A single anonymous source.
Where have we seen that before?
We've seen that before all the time from the Washington Post.
All the time from the Washington Post.
So, it's not really any different from the Washington Post, or maybe we should call it the Amazon Post.
And of course, that's what Donald Trump said.
He says, well, what about all these other phony stories that they do?
And Donald Trump Jr.
called this story the biggest fake news scandal in the network's history.
He said that Donald Trump said CNN is looking at big management changes.
Now they got caught falsely pushing their Russian stories.
Absolutely.
And he later on tweeted out, so they caught CNN cold, but what about NBC, CBS, ABC?
What about the failing New York Times and Washington Post?
They're all fake news.
Exactly.
They're running with anonymous sources.
It's not anonymous sources who are telling us.
It's the FISA court who's telling us that the FBI violated the law, that the NSA violated the law, that they engaged in political activity to benefit the Obama administration, benefit Hillary Clinton.
We know that.
That is the big story, folks, that is coming.
But meanwhile, let's take a look at these three journalists who are now leaving.
We reported yesterday that within CNN, Brian Stelter,
Did not get any information.
They were stonewalling him even within his own organization.
We've had Sean Hannity come out and say that CNN's Jeff Zucker needs to be fired.
He said it's very fake news.
We've had Paul Joseph Watson say Trump must now revoke CNN's White House press credentials.
Tucker Carlson says CNN is no longer a news organization.
Absolutely true.
Let's play
This clip from Project Veritas, because now, in addition to all of this implosion of this story, and the aftermath of that that's happened in the last several days at CNN, we now have this internal exposure.
A CNN producer, John Bonifield, who was caught on tape talking about the fact that they know that this is BS.
Here's a clip from the Project Veritas exposure.
The more I see them constantly, like, Russia this, Russia that.
This is ratings.
This is ratings?
Our ratings are incredible right now.
But, honestly, you'd think that whole Russia sh** is just, like, bullsh**.
I mean, it's mostly bullsh** right now.
Could be bullsh**.
Like, we don't have any big, giant proof.
I just feel like they don't really have it, but they want to keep digging.
And so I think the president is probably right to say, like, look, you are witch hunting me, like, you have no smoking gun, you have no real proof.
And the CEO of CNN said in our internal meeting, he said, good job everybody covering the climate accords, but we're done with it, let's get back to Russia.
Wow.
Hear that?
This is like, there's no smoking gun, there's no giant proof, it's mostly just BS right now.
And he said, we had this meeting, and he said, good job.
This was CEO Jeff Zucker again.
Just to give you some context, he said President Trump pulled out of the Climate Accords, and for a day and a half, we covered the Climate Accords.
And the CEO of CNN said in our internal meetings, he said, good job everybody covering the Climate Accord, but we're done with that.
Let's just get back to Russia.
Let's play the next clip on here.
So you believe, like, the Russia thing's a little crazy, right?
Even if Russia was trying to swing an election, right?
We try to swing their elections.
We're in the RCIA and doing s*** all the time.
We're out there trying to manipulate governments.
You win because you know the game and you play it right.
She didn't play it right.
But why is CNN constantly like, Russia this, Russia that?
Because it's ratings.
Because it's ratings?
Our ratings are incredible right now.
In the month of May, CNN's ratings were significantly higher than they were the year before.
The Russia story and Trump have made CNN millions.
Because of, uh, yeah, I, so, my boss, I shouldn't say this, my boss a couple days, yesterday, we were having a discussion about this dental shoot, and he goes, he's like, I just want you to know what we're up against here.
And he goes, just to give you some context,
President Trump pulled out of the Climate Accords, and for a day and a half we covered the Climate Accords, and the CEO of CNN said in our internal meeting, he said, good job everybody covering the Climate Accords, but we're done with it, let's get back to Russia.
The CEO?
Yeah.
Oh my god.
So, even the Climate Accords, he was like, okay, a day or so, but we're moving back to Russia.
Isn't that amazing?
You know, I had an interview last night with a man who wrote a book called The Plot to Scapegoat Russia.
And it was done from the perspective of, like, an Oliver Stone liberal.
As a matter of fact, this guy's basically on the same page as Oliver Stone.
Not a conservative, but they understand what's going on with this phony narrative.
And we also have Glenn Greenwald with The Intercept pointing out how they have jumped the shark so many times, completely lost their credibility.
But the man that I was talking to about the plot to scapegoat Russia is not a warmonger.
He's not somebody who's pushing for war.
But we have to understand the cynical nature of this.
And it's about business.
You're going to hear this in the next clip.
But it is also a very politicized operation.
This is not a news organization.
As I think it was Sean Hannity said, it's a campaign.
This is a politicized attack.
It is Operation Mockingbird.
And it is also, not just, as I've pointed out many times, it's not just an offensive attack against Donald Trump, trying to stall his administration, trying to entrap him in process crimes, but they are also trying to come up with plausible deniability when it comes out that they are the ones who have been hacking into state boards of election.
It was Jay Johnson at the Department of Homeland Security that has been stonewalling congressmen who have asked him about the actions of Homeland Security, violating the law, breaking into state boards of election, and saying, well, we need to show that this is critical infrastructure.
Trying to create, essentially, a panic situation so they can insert themselves into local elections.
But they are violating the law.
The FBI, the NSA, violated the law.
This is not an anonymous whistleblower.
This is the FISA court.
Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.
It was created in the wake of the Church and the Pike hearings from the 1970s.
Because at that time, guess what?
The CIA and the NSA were listening to Americans illegally.
That was not a part of what they were created to do.
They tried to reign them in with the FISA Court.
And then they began using the FISA Act as a means to do a dragnet surveillance of Mr. and Mrs. Verizon.
So the court is very upset that these intelligence agencies have been basically operating as political operatives.
We have Chuck Grassley, Senator from Iowa, saying the same thing.
Trying to get ahead.
But they're getting stonewalled at all these different operations.
That is the true story here, folks.
That is the real key.
How they were used defensively.
Yes, they're trying to use this as a defensive mechanism.
They're trying to muddy the water.
They're trying to help the Democrats.
But it goes beyond just trying to help the Democrats after the election.
They were helping the Democrats before the election.
They were using the intelligence and law enforcement communities in an illegal way.
And they're very intent on covering that up.
And so is CNN.
But then, of course, here's the obvious part, folks.
It's about the money as well.
Here's what he has to say in the next clip.
Folks, I mean, I understand.
It's all ratings, right?
It's a business.
It's a business.
People are like, the media has like an ethical... But all the nice cutesy little ethics that used to get talked about in journalism school, you're just like, that's adorable.
That's adorable.
Yeah, this is the business.
Especially cable news.
You know?
Cable news isn't the New York Times, and it's not even like NBC News.
It's... It's... I mean, NBC News still gets 20 million viewers a night.
Cable news is getting a million.
So... Like, they gotta... They gotta do what they gotta do to make their money.
I think.
So I love the news business, but I find it so fascinating.
I'm very cynical about it.
At the same time, so are most of my colleagues.
I'm not alone.
So he loves the news business, and it's strictly about business.
It's strictly about eyeballs, and they will tell anybody anything in order to get eyeballs.
That's what he's saying.
And that's true.
That's what we just saw with Megyn Kelly.
And it's no different if you're at NBC than it is if you're at CNN or if you're at Fox or whatever.
They will come after people, tell lies about them, edit this, and that's the key thing.
You have to understand.
Sean Hannity came out and said, show the entire tape, we've got to stop with this character assassination, with this editing of the interviews to get precisely what you want to do, hours upon hours of interviews and then you can distill it down to say precisely what you want.
That is the attack journalism, the Operation Mockingbird, the control that has been exercised by the mainstream media, and by that I mean NBC, ABC, CBS,
They were the part of Operation Mockingbird, working with the government, working with the CIA, putting out the narratives, the stories that the government wanted.
And anybody who questioned that was shut down as a conspiracy theorist, beginning with the JFK assassination.
That's when they coined that term.
They didn't want anybody looking at the independent media.
Amazing how, when you go back and think about that, there was one person with a film recorder that got some independent video, and look at the trouble that caused the government with their pat story about a patsy with a bolt-action rifle taking those three shots from one location behind.
That created a great deal of problem for them.
They have been fighting that for 60 years now, and they just can't get past that.
Today we have everybody with cameras.
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We can talk to each other.
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Stay with us.
We'll be right back with more analysis, and we'll be talking about Sheriff Joe and Syria, what's happening there.
And of course, John Kiriakou coming up in the next hour.
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On this Tuesday, June 27th, 2017.
I want to get back to this last clip from the Project Veritas video.
I think it's very amazing what he has to say about the witch hunt.
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You know, we had Zucker come out and say, you know, people still trust CNN.
You should never trust a news source just because they say it.
You know, you can have an experience with people and say, yeah, okay, I verified that.
That was real.
I verified that again.
That's real.
And then you start to begin to trust an organization, but you should always verify every story.
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Dishonest reports as we see here with CNN.
Let's play this last clip here, what this guy has to say about President Trump being witch-hunted.
I think that there are a lot of liberal CNN viewers who want to see Trump really get scrutinized.
And I think if we would have behaved that way with President Obama and scrutinized everything that he was doing with as much scrutiny as we applied to Donald Trump, I think our viewers would have been turned off.
I think they would have thought we were attacking him.
I'm not saying all of our viewers are super liberals.
I think there's just a lot of them.
So Trump's good for business, you're saying?
Trump is good for business right now.
But honestly, you'd think the whole Russia **** is just bull****.
Could be bull****.
I mean, it's mostly **** right now.
We don't have any big giant proof.
But then they say, well, there's still an investigation going on.
And you're like, yeah.
I don't know.
If you were finding something, here's what we'd know about it.
The way these leaks happen, they leak it.
It leaked.
If it was something really good, it would leak.
It would've leaked before, uh...
If anything was good out there, it would have came out already.
The leaks keep leaking, and there's so many great leaks, and it's amazing, and I just refuse to believe that if they had something really good like that, that that wouldn't leak, because we've been getting all these other leaks, so I just feel like they don't really have it, but they want to keep digging.
And so I think the President is probably right to say, like, look, you are witch-hunting me, like, you have no smoking gun,
There's no real proof.
Exactly.
And we've been saying that for a very long time.
There's this guy who's a CNN producer telling that to a hidden camera for Project Veritas, James O'Keefe releasing that information.
We've had Oliver Stone say that.
We had the guy that I interviewed yesterday, the plot to scapegoat Russia, saying that.
We've been saying that.
We said, there's absolutely nothing here.
If there was anything, they would have found it by now, but there isn't.
And it's a very dangerous thing to continue to go down this road.
They're provoking war as assuredly as people like Nikki Haley and McMaster are trying to provoke a world war.
And we have people like Glenn Greenwald as well, talking about the absurdity of this Russian narrative.
He wrote an article, came out today, CNN journalists resign.
The latest example of media recklessness in the Russia threat.
And he says they're not alone.
He says, uh, quite frankly, Washington Post.
And you heard this guy say, well, you know, we're just, uh, we're just CNN.
There's the big guys like the Washington Post and New York Times.
Yeah, they've been caught doing this as well.
When we come back from the break, I'm gonna read you, uh, one of the examples from this, uh, article from The Intercept.
Talking about the Washington Post, the relentless pushing of false information even after it's exposed as being false.
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Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.
I'm David Knight.
We're going to be joined in the next segment by CIA whistleblower who subsequently went to jail for exposing criminal actions.
Isn't that the way it always is?
You expose criminal actions within the government, and it's the whistleblower that goes to jail.
The people who committed the criminal actions do not go to jail.
His name is John Kiriakou.
He wrote a book with Joseph Hickman called The Convenient Terrorist, and it's another case of a convenient narrative that is being sold by the mainstream media by the U.S.
government in order to get what they want.
Essentially a pack of lies.
It'll be a very interesting interview.
I think it's a very interesting book.
I want to get to in this section right here as we're talking about the CNN story.
This story here from The Intercept by Glenn Greenwald.
He said several factors here are compounding CNN's embarrassment.
To begin with, the story was first debunked by Breitbart and by Sputnik News.
They explained that the investment fund documented several factual inaccuracies in the report.
They said the fund is not even a part of the named Russian bank.
Vineshi Kambrink, which is under investigation.
Breitbart cited numerous other factual inaccuracies.
So this whole thing started melting down at the end of the week.
They pulled this thing back and now they have pulled back from Russia.
But they said CNN is hardly alone.
And this is the key point, folks.
It's hardly alone when it comes to embarrassing retractions regarding Russia.
And then they talk about Washington Post.
Remember the end of the year?
How we had all of this fear-mongering about how Vladimir Putin was attempting to hack our electric grid?
That was a tweet from an MSNBC journalist.
We have other Democrat officials doing the same thing.
And of course, we just had this last week.
Jay Johnson going before Congress and saying, I know that Vladimir Putin personally ordered the attempt hacks into our state boards of election.
You know, because Vladimir Putin wants to get those voter rolls in Georgia.
No, I don't think so.
I think it's far more likely that the DNC, the people who really did hack the election against Bernie Sanders, I think it's far more likely that they want to do it.
I think it's far more likely that bad actors in the state bureaucracy
Or to be able to insinuate themselves in the electronic voting machines to truly hack the votes, to hack the totals.
And they're using this.
They were the ones who were caught red-handed trying to break into the Georgia state election information and into the Indiana state election.
We had state secretaries of state get together and ask Donald Trump to shut down Homeland Security.
They've asked Jay Johnson for information about what had happened.
Completely stonewalled them until he came out and had his dog and pony show and said, it was Putin who did it.
It was Putin who did it.
Well, what were they telling us back on December 30th?
They published, this is the Washington Post, published a blockbuster frightening scoop that immediately and predictably went viral and generated massive traffic.
Remember when this happened?
Russian hackers, the paper claimed,
Based on anonymous sources.
The favorite source of the Washington Post and the New York Times.
Anonymous sources.
Had hacked into the U.S.
electricity grid through a Vermont utility.
What was this in reality?
Well, they had not bothered to even contact the Vermont utility.
When somebody did, the Vermont utility said, well, we found a little bit of malware on a laptop.
It was not connected to the Vermont grid.
It was not connected to the U.S.
electric grid.
So then they come out and they double down on this.
This is the Washington Post.
You can see the headline.
National Security.
Russian operation hacked a Vermont utility, showing risk to U.S.
electrical grid security, officials say.
And then in small letters underneath it,
An editor's note.
An earlier version of this story incorrectly said the Russian hackers had penetrated the US electric grid.
Authorities say there's no indication of that.
So far.
So far.
The computer that was hacked was not attached to the grid.
This is so alarmist, so over-the-top ridiculous.
And yet, and he continues to go through this story, showing how this story evolved and how they continued to try to reluctantly, little bit by little bit, they'd let some detail go and then they would do another story and let another detail go that they had pushed forward falsely, but still maintaining this fear, this false narrative that by this time they well knew was not true.
This is the Washington Post.
This is Jeff Bezos' political weapon that he bought for a pittance.
I mean, $250 million to Jeff Bezos?
That's less than a little stock blip on a particular day.
And that makes him a player in Washington.
Stay with us.
When we come back, we're going to talk to John Kiriakou, CIA whistleblower.
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Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show on this Tuesday, June 27, 2017.
I'm David Knight, your host.
I misspoke in the last segment.
I said that our guest coming up would be in this segment.
It's going to be an hour from now that we're going to have John Kiriakou, former CIA whistleblower, talking to us about his newest book, Convenient Terrorist.
Very important for us to come back and look at the official stories that we get from the government to fact check those stories, to sanity check those stories.
That's why people push back against the JFK assassination and that's why the FBI, in order to shut that down, invented the term conspiracy theorist.
You don't believe that one guy with a bolt-action rifle and they took all those shots from the back?
You believe some of those witnesses?
You believe there's a pruder film?
What's the matter with you people?
You're a bunch of paranoid tinfoil hat conspiracy theorists if you don't believe the government's official story.
Well, let's take a look at the government's official story about this Syrian chemical attack, the latest one.
You know, I was just saying before this information came out, I was saying to my wife, you know, one of the things that Megyn Kelly
Asked me, you know, what are the stories that you feel the best about that you've done here at InfoWars?
And I said, well, you know, the Bundy Ranch, I think that was a very important time to see people standing with their neighbors, standing up peacefully and saying, we're not going to take this anymore.
We're not going to let you take away our property rights.
We're not going to let you abuse us illegally without any legal law enforcement authority under color of law.
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Because, you know, if you don't have any property rights, you are the property.
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It's just that simple.
But I also told my wife, I said, you know, I'm very proud of the fact that we stood up in 2013
When Obama was trying to push us into troops on the ground and becoming Al-Qaeda's air force in Syria, and we stood up and said, I'm sorry, we're not buying this sarin gas attack narrative.
It was phony.
And first Russia came out and pushed back against it along with Syria, then we had UN arms weapons inspectors push back against it, and eventually we had people within the American defense establishment come out and say, no, that didn't happen.
And the whole thing got shut down.
This time around, it went very quickly.
And I think the reason for that is because of McMaster and the timing of when he joined the administration.
But we're in a very dangerous situation.
Where are we right now?
Today we've got NBC reporting and we've got tweets that are coming out from Nikki Haley.
NBC reports White House warns Syria against chemical attack preparations.
Don't you even think about it.
Anything goes wrong there, we're going to take that as an excuse to attack Russia, to attack Syria.
The United States has spotted, quote, potential preparations for another chemical weapons attack, unquote, by the Syrian government, said the White House late Monday in a statement that took some defense and military officials by surprise.
Yes.
The statement warned that Syria would pay a heavy price if such an attack proceeds.
It gave no details of the purported preparations.
Of course not.
Of course there's not going to be any details.
There weren't any details that could be analyzed or debunked
When they launched the attack, those details eventually did surface, and we did talk about that, and we did have former weapons inspectors debunk that at the time, but by then it was too late.
And hopefully we're not going to see this happen again.
We have to understand how incredibly dangerous these actions that are being taken by the US military right now in Syria are.
We are not there, folks, to fight ISIS.
We have been arming ISIS.
We've been training ISIS.
We've been assisting ISIS.
And every time ISIS is about to lose to the Syrian government, we create some kind of a false flag attack to give us an excuse to go further in.
Before we shot down the Syrian jet, without warning, and again, as a means to stop a knee-jerk
Uh, beginning to a war.
Communications were established between the Russian and the United States to prevent this.
To say that, uh, talk about where the jets were and what planned actions were going to happen.
That was completely ignored.
We took a very dangerous, precipitous action in terms of shooting down that Syrian jet.
Prior to that, on that Sunday, that was about 10 days ago, prior to that, the preceding Thursday, we had moved artillery very close to positions that the Syrian government had.
We are defending so-called moderate rebels.
And we see how this works.
These people are constantly changing their names.
One week they're moderate rebels, the next week they're Al-Qaeda, they're ISIS, whatever.
We know exactly what's happening.
We have pointed this out again with John McCain time and time again, how he goes in these areas.
This is simply about creating chaos.
And it's a very, very dangerous game of war that they're playing with Russians.
Russians were invited by the Syrian government, which is not perfect.
See, that's the issue here.
Any perfect country in that area of the world.
There's not necessarily a good guy.
What we have there is a stable government.
We have a government that is far less dangerous to the people in Syria and to the rest of the world than ISIS is and will be.
And we have seen this played out before in Syria and in Libya.
We know exactly how this is going to go down.
And many people have pointed that out.
But let's take a look at now what Nikki Haley is trying to do and the White House, elements within the White House.
They gave no details of these supposed preparations.
But they said the activities are similar to preparations the regime made before its April 4th, 2017 chemical weapons attack.
So, really?
What were they doing?
Stealing incubators or something?
And we'll talk about that.
We'll look at Seymour Hersh when he talks about what kind of activities, what kind of preparations, what kind of notifications happened before that attack that was characterized as a sarin gas attack that could only be done by Syria.
Unbelievable that we would take action on this, which was the same type of attack which was exposed as a lie in 2013.
The White House warned, as we previously say, the U.S.
and Syria is in Syria to eliminate the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria.
And there are people in the White House who want to see that happen.
But there are also people who don't care if that happens.
There are people who simply want regime change.
And they will use ISIS, they will empower ISIS, they will put them in charge if they can get regime change.
And they have their own reasons for why they want to do that.
Pipelines and other issues are involved in that.
If, however, Mr. Assad conducts another mass murder attack using chemical weapons, he and his military will pay a heavy price.
Nikki Haley.
Tweeted a similar warning to Russia and Iran a short time later, saying any attack would be blamed not only on Assad, but quote, also on Russia and Iran, who support him killing his own people.
In other words, anybody we don't like, we're going to just unilaterally blame them without any proof, and we will take action.
And you better believe they will.
They shot down that Syrian jet without provocation, without warning.
And this is the woman, basically, folks.
Nikki Haley.
Her family's from India.
She doesn't know anything about American history.
Doesn't know anything about the Civil War.
But she's started this one-woman pogrom to essentially erase American history that she knows nothing about.
She was a never-Trump neocon.
And why she was ever picked as U.N.
Ambassador, I cannot understand why she was ever put in the administration.
A Syrian minister dismissed the White House statement saying that Damascus has not and will not use such arms.
They don't need to.
They're winning.
They're winning.
They don't need to do this.
They don't have any motivation to do this.
We're the ones who want to have a motivation to attack them, to stop them from wiping out our surrogates, ISIS.
Let's keep that clear, what this is really about.
Russian officials accuse the U.S.
of laying the groundwork for an attack on Syrian forces.
Exactly.
Let's take a look at the Seymour Hersh story.
Seymour Hersh pointed out, and this came out last week, it was in a German paper, last time when he was talking about the
Syrian false flag attack.
He had to do that in a London paper.
He's a former Pulitzer Prize winner who used to work for the New York Times, but people like Seymour Hersh are no longer welcome in the United States if they do not push war.
If they push against it, the New York Times, the Washington Post, whether they want to portray themselves as left or right, there's one thing they all agree on.
They want war.
He pointed out the lobbing of Tomahawk missiles into Syria based on the fairy tale that Assad launched a chemical weapon attack, and Trump's cozying up to the barbaric terrorist-supported leaders of Saudi Arabia have been very concerning aspects of his foreign policy.
And we're all very concerned about this.
And these are elements within the Trump administration.
There are other elements that we need to support.
And we need to support Donald Trump's instincts, his knowledge, what he campaigned on.
We need to stand behind him to make sure that the right elements, that the better angels of his nature prevail here.
That he's not lied to, that he's not deceived by these people, that he does the right thing.
Now this is a report that Seymour Hersh did called Trump's Red Line.
He asserts that President Trump ignored important intelligence reports when he made the decision to attack Syria after pictures emerged of dying children in the war-torn country.
And this is a zero-hedge report on Seymour Hersh's report.
They point out that Hirsch's account, in his account, Trump was well aware of the fact that the U.S.
had no solid intelligence linking the Syrian government to a chemical weapons attack.
According to Hirsch's article, it's doubtful that a chemical weapons attack occurred at all.
Hirsch said this, he said, the available intelligence made clear that the Syrians had targeted a jihadist meeting on April the 4th.
Remember now, this is Nikki Haley.
And elements within the Trump White House are saying, we're seeing the same kinds of preparations happening now in Syria that happened before this chemical weapons attack.
Well, what was happening on April 4th?
Well, on April 4th, there was a meeting using Russian-supplied guided bombs with conventional explosives.
The details of the attack
Including information on its so-called high-value targets had been provided by the Russians days in advance to American and allied military officials in Doha, whose mission is to coordinate all US allied Syrian and Russian air force operations in the region.
That has now been shut down because of our precipitous attack on the Syrian jet.
One officer said, none of this makes any sense.
We know there was no chemical attack.
The Russians are furious, claiming we have real intel and we know the truth.
I guess it didn't matter, they said.
Russia had actually warned its American counterparts off the chance that there were any CIA assets on the ground.
So basically they were playing the game right, they said.
So why would this happen?
Well, they believe, as Zero Hedge Point sounded, look at the timing of this.
This is the time that
General Flynn was removed, and McMaster came into the operation.
So, was the willingness here, the manipulations of McMaster?
We're going to take a look at the efforts to get Flynn to come back.
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Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.
I'm David Knight.
We've been talking about this Seymour Hersh story.
And this is very important that we get this right, folks.
We do not want to have a war provoked in Syria.
We want to shut down ISIS.
And of course, it doesn't look like the U.S.
government wants to shut down their surrogate.
It looks like they would rather have a war with the Russians.
Let's take a look at what Seymour Hersh was saying in terms of what happened just before this latest event in Syria, as we have Nikki Haley saying that it looks like they are starting to have preparations
That look exactly like what happened in April 4th, 2017, before a chemical weapons attack.
Was there a chemical weapons attack?
What were the preparations?
Well, according to Seymour Hersh, he said Russia had actually warned its American counterparts on the off chance that there were CIA assets on the ground.
He continues, he said, his sources told him that every operations officer in the region, in the Army, the Marine Corps, Air Force, CIA and NSA, had to know there was something going on.
The Russians gave the Syrian Air Force a guided bomb and that was a rarity.
They're skimpy with their guided bombs, they rarely share them with the Syrian Air Force.
The Syrians assigned their best pilot to the mission with the best wingman.
The advanced intelligence on the target, as supplied by the Russians, was given the highest possible score inside the American community.
So what they were saying was they were hitting a terrorist warehouse.
Now, the interesting thing about this, the one pushback against this,
is the fact that the Russians gave different accounts of this incident.
And honestly, we have to point this out.
It said, strangely, if Hirsch's reporting is accurate, it's not clear why the Russians didn't give the detailed account at the time.
Why didn't the Russians emphasize that they had shared information with U.S.
military in advance of the attack?
It also doesn't explain why Vladimir Putin appeared to endorse two competing theories behind the events.
We also had, however, we had reports from the Doctors Without Borders, the French organization MSF.
They said that there were eight patients that showed symptoms that were consistent to exposure to neurotoxins like sarin gas or similar things.
And they said they also visited other hospitals that received victims, found the patients there smelled of bleach, suggesting that they've been exposed to chlorine.
In other words, evidence suggested there was more than one type of chemical responsible for the symptoms observed.
I think this is very key.
If it was sarin gas, you would not have seen the types of video that we saw with people operating without protective clothing.
You also would have had nobody moving these weapons around unless they had a full hazmat suit.
But the issue here, and of course we also had the former weapons inspector,
Who had done the report, and we reported this at InfoWars as well, showing a canister that was imploded from above in the crater.
If you look at the pictures that were put out by the Pentagon, you can actually see the canister, a canister that was crushed from above, did not explode from within, as you would have with a weaponized chemical
Canister.
So it's clear that there's a lot of misinformation here, but it is also clear that the U.S., based on its actions with the Syrian jet, based on the information that we got from Postel, who is a former scientific advisor to the U.S.
military's chief of naval operations, a guy who had been hired by the Pentagon as a consultant, and there's that article there showing the canister, how it was imploded from top down and not exploded.
All of that information shows that this is not a chemical weapons strike.
That was a fairy tale, okay?
That is not the narrative that we were being told.
And they point out this, and this is a Zero Hedge article.
They say, missing from Hirsch's account, however, is the fact that it was newly appointed National Security Advisor General H.R.
McMaster who laid out the military strike proposals to the President at his resort April the 6th.
That is the key, folks.
The fact that we had General Flynn removed.
That is the key.
And now we have this article today from Circa.
Did the FBI retaliate against Michael Flynn by launching the Russia probe?
So there's a couple of things here that are really, really concerning about the firing of Michael Flynn.
Number one, the fact that he was targeted illegally by the intelligence community, that they
Unveiled information about him when he was not a suspect.
That is a violation of the law.
The FISA Court has talked about that.
They have unsealed those records.
The fact that they would unseal those records is a violation of the law by the FISA Court as well as the FBI.
The FISA Court says the FBI is never allowed to collect intelligence on American citizens in America without a search warrant.
That's the Constitution.
The FISA Court says
The Foreign Intelligence Act and the intelligence communities are allowed only to get information on foreign citizens in foreign countries without having a search warrant.
What they did to General Flynn was outrageous.
It was a violation of law.
It had severe consequences from a, not just a political standpoint, but the intelligence community.
By taking out Flynn, by putting in McMaster,
They were able to do this false flag attack that they did with the sarin gas.
We're going to talk about what they did with Michael Flynn when we come back.
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I'm David and I want to get back and finish this story about Syria, about Michael Flynn, the exposure by Seymour Hersh asking questions and of course now Nikki Haley and other neocons in the Trump administration.
Pushing the idea that there's some kind of new preparation for a new chemical weapons attack in Syria and that that's going to give them carte blanche to do whatever they wish in the area.
Attack whoever they wish.
Whether it's Syria, Iran, or Russia, we'll just have to wait and see who Nikki Haley and McMaster point the finger at so they can start World War III.
We're going to talk about where this came from and the key part of this, I think, is the FBI retaliation.
Against Michael Flynn and that's precisely what this is.
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It looked exactly like what we had shut down in 2013.
We told people, this is an attempt by Obama to make the United States the air force of Al-Qaeda.
We have dropped supplies to them.
We have trained them.
We've given them money.
We've given them support.
We've told everybody that they're moderate rebels because they come up with all these different aliases.
And now, we want the government to act as their air force.
That was what was happening four years ago.
We had soldiers and sailors going on social media, holding up pictures saying, we will not be Al Qaeda's air force.
That was shut down.
We showed that that was a false narrative.
This was a false narrative that happened on April the 4th.
It was April the 6th that McMaster began working, taking over the National Security Council.
And that was the result.
Now, how did they get Flynn out?
This story from Circa, that came out yesterday evening, talks about how the FBI launched a criminal probe against Advisor Michael Flynn two years after the retired Army General roiled the Bureau's leadership by intervening on behalf of a decorated counter-terrorism agent who accused now-Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe and other top officials of sexual discrimination.
This is according to documents and interviews that have now surfaced.
So understand, Andrew McCabe, who is the FBI director, acting FBI director, he was the number two for Comey, he was the target, he was accused of sexual discrimination.
Michael Flynn got involved.
It was an unusual intervention, they said.
It was on behalf of a supervisory special agent, Robin Gritz, a female.
It was highly unusual, they said, and included a letter in 2014 on his official Pentagon stationery.
This is a public interview in 2015 where he supported Gritz's case and he offered to testify on her behalf.
His offer put him in as a hostile witness in a case against Andrew McCabe, FBI director now, acting director, who was soaring through the bureau's leadership ranks.
The FBI sought to block Flynn's support for the agent.
They asked a federal administrative law judge in May 2014 to keep Flynn and others from getting involved and from being witnesses in her EEOC case.
Two years later, the FBI opened its inquiry of Flynn.
The EEO case, which is still pending, has serious enough to require McCabe to submit to a sworn statement to investigators.
The deputy director's testimony provided some of the strongest evidence in the case of possible retaliation because, listen to this, he admitted the FBI opened an internal investigation into Gritz's personal conduct after learning that she had filed, and had intended to file, a sex discrimination complaint against her supervisors.
So once they found out she was accusing them of sexual discrimination, they went after her personally.
And then once General Flynn got involved, because he had worked with her in terms of security issues and she was known to him, once he said that he was going to file on her behalf and testify on her behalf,
They came after him.
That's what it looks like now.
Your employees who spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of retribution told Circa they did not know the reason for McCabe's displeasure with Flynn, but that it made them uncomfortable as the Russian probe began to unfold and pressure began to build to investigate Flynn.
One employee even consulted a private lawyer.
So these are people within the FBI saying this looks like this is retaliatory against General Flynn because he got involved on behalf of an employee who said she was sexually discriminated against by McCabe and others.
Quote, as far as the troops in the field, the vast majority were disgusted with the Russia decision.
But that was McCabe driving the result that eventually led former FBI Director James Comey to make the decision.
McCabe, whose wife was running for office in Virginia getting money from the Clinton Foundation.
They say the Flynn leaks were nothing short of political, said one FBI employee.
The leaks appeared to be targeted to take Flynn out.
Documents and memos obtained by Circa detail how Flynn and other top officials at other government agencies in 2014 and 15 came to intervene in the EEOC case of Gritz, who rose over two decades to a supervisory special agent inside the FBI on strength of her counter-terrorism work.
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But then, when she went to work under McCabe, her career took a sudden downturn under his leadership team in 2012, resulting in her first negative rating after years of outstanding performance reviews.
She filed an EEOC complaint inside the FBI against a handful of bureau executives in 2012, alleging her career was being derailed by sexual discrimination.
So, on her behalf,
General Flynn says, you know, I'm going to testify on her behalf.
She's been an exemplary person.
She's had a great record here.
That got him involved with this case where we now know that Andrew McCabe began investigating her personally to try to get dirt on her.
Then, from testimony of other FBI agents, it looks like McCabe came after Flynn as well.
And this case is still not resolved.
But it certainly does help Andrew McCabe to have sullied the reputation of Michael Flynn.
So that's just one aspect of it.
There's a personal aspect there.
But I think an even more important aspect here is how the intelligence community took out people who were going to be opposed to their ever-widening conflict in Syria, opposed to their regime change.
These are the people, the McMasters, the Petraeuses, the Nikki Haley's, who have pushed
For regime change, pushed for chaos and created chaos in Libya and elsewhere, and they're trying to do that in Syria.
To create ISIS, to empower ISIS, to attack the people who are trying to stop ISIS.
That is absolutely irresponsible.
And as Trump supporters, we need to speak out against that.
We need to shut down this reckless, dangerous action that could lead to World War III.
Now I want to talk about what's going on with Sheriff Joe.
Because this is also something that really needs to get some publicity.
We really need to contact Trump and the Department of Justice.
Yesterday we had a criminal trial that opened against former Sheriff Joe Arpaio to build his highly touted deportation force, they point out.
Trump is now reviving a long-standing program that deputizes local officers to enforce federal immigration law.
That was what Sheriff Joe was doing.
And now, we've got an activist judge who is trying to send him to jail for criminal contempt of this judge's order not to enforce immigration law.
Arpaio's lawyer said the former sheriff is charged with a crime for cooperating with U.S.
immigration officials.
Say under the Obama administration, it was a crime to cooperate with immigration officials.
It was a crime to patrol the border.
That's why the border patrol
was so strong and outspoken in its support of Donald Trump.
But what happened is, we had Sheriff Joe's officers, they say, targeted immigrants who used fraudulent IDs to get jobs.
Why would we want a sheriff to do that?
I mean, we don't want to, if somebody comes into this country and violates the law, a foreign citizen comes here and criminally trespasses and thumbs their nose at the law, we shouldn't investigate that.
If they use fraudulent IDs to get jobs, we shouldn't investigate that either.
And if we have a sheriff who's going to enforce those kinds of laws, that sheriff needs to go to jail.
See, that's what the former Department of Justice, and I put that in quotes, air quotes, Department of Justice, that's what they said.
That's what the former president said.
And so the question is, why does the current Department of Justice continue to say that?
Why is the current Department of Justice trying to crucify Sheriff Joe for trying to obey the law, for trying to follow policy that got Donald Trump elected?
Saying that he would enforce immigration law.
His immigration powers were eventually stripped away by the courts and by the federal government, just as the Border Patrol was.
But I want you to look at how this is turning.
The latest development in this is that former attorney of Sheriff Joe is forced to testify against him in violation of client attorney privileges.
A lawyer who once represented former Sheriff Joe Arpaio in a racial profiling case has testified that he had several meetings with Arpaio to discuss a court order that barred traffic patrols targeting immigrants.
This is under a criminal contempt of court charge for prolonging the paroles after a judge ordered them stopped.
And so they're penetrating this attorney-client privilege here, and they're even shutting down his ability to have a trial by jury.
This judge does not want a jury.
This judge wants to be the sole judge and jury of what's going on with Sheriff Arpaio.
This is a kangaroo court case, and Sheriff Joe has tried to subpoena Jeff Sessions to testify.
In late August of 2016, the Department of Justice, then under Loretta Lynch, formally filed criminal contempt of court charges against Sheriff Joe and others just two weeks before the election.
They broke a long-standing tradition and protocol not to take action against sitting elected officials close to an election in order to avoid unduly influencing public opinion and interfering with an election.
Isn't that just what we heard from James Comey?
Isn't that what Loretta Lynch said when she said we want to call this a matter because we don't want to interfere with the election of Hillary Clinton?
So they backed off, but for Sheriff Joe, they did exactly the opposite.
As a matter of fact, they decided to charge Sheriff Joe with a different statute of contempt of court than they did for three others that had been named in the referral.
The other three defendants had their charges dropped because the statute of limitations had run its course, but the special charge that they put on Sheriff Joe
Uh, got around the statute of limitations so that they could do it while he was running for re-election.
Sheriff Joe was charged with a unique statute, a longer statute of limitations, in order to make those charges stick, to make it happen through the election, to do the most political damage to him as close to the election as possible.
Even though the charges of the Department of Justice filed against Arpaio demand a trial by jury,
The Department of Justice has vehemently fought in court to deny the sheriff his constitutional right to a trial by jury, which means that as they've appealed this to the Supreme Court without the Supreme Court stepping in, Sheriff Joe is going to face trial right now where he will be decided by one sitting federal judge.
This is amazing.
Prosecutors in the Department of Justice have opposed the bid for Attorney General Sessions to testify in this case.
I just cannot understand, just as we're talking about with Jerome Corsi, the Fannie Freddie theft, one of the biggest bank robberies, I guess you could say, in history.
We're good to go.
Not only that, but it's a package of mortgages that are insured by the federal government.
So somebody that's trying to preserve their capital for their retirement, trying to do the right thing, they'll put their money there.
What you don't realize, what the public doesn't realize, is that although Fannie and Freddie
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The federal government stepped in took that over.
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Obama didn't have any way to fund his subsidies of Obamacare.
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You can't do that, Obama.
You can't move that money from somewhere else.
So then what he did was he said, we're going to do a net asset sweep.
We're just going to take it away from the Fannie and Freddie investors.
We're going to do whatever we wish to do.
And the Department of Justice appealed that decision.
Now, Attorney General Sessions could stop the funding of Obamacare just by dropping that appeal.
It's just that simple.
That's all the Trump administration has to do to point out the bankruptcy of this nonsense.
We have the Congressional Budget Office coming out with these scoring operations saying, we're going to look at the number of people that have their insurance and that's going to be the standard by which we're going to determine whether this is a good bill or not.
That is based on a lie!
These people who quote-unquote have insurance is based on theft.
It is not anything that was done legally.
And so that could be stopped by Attorney General Sessions.
They could stop this persecution of Arpaio.
But they don't.
And the question is why?
Why won't Attorney General Sessions step up, stop this appeal, stop this persecution of Sheriff Joe?
You need to let them hear from you.
You need to point this out.
These are great injustices that are being done.
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I want to play again the CNN producer caught by James O'Keefe and Project Veritas talking about how they know this is a witch hunt.
I think that there are a lot of liberal CNN viewers who want to see Trump really get scrutinized.
And I think if we would have behaved that way with President Obama and scrutinized everything that he was doing with as much scrutiny as we applied to Donald Trump, I think our viewers would have been turned off.
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Trump is good for business right now.
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Before America can be great again, she must be free again.
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Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.
Coming up in the next segment, and really is coming up in the next segment.
I'm David Knight.
I announced it last hour, but I was a little bit ahead of time.
We have the authors of The Convenient Terrorist.
And of course, this is whistleblower John Kiriakou, a former CIA officer, the one who blew the whistle on the illegal torturing of people.
They called it intense interrogation.
But unfortunately, the people who are actually doing the torturing, the people who are actually breaking the law, nothing happened to them.
As we typically see, it's the whistleblower who goes to jail.
Now, he's written a book along with Joseph Hickman, who's a former U.S.
Marine Senior Research Fellow for the Center for Policy and Research, talking about a very high-profile case.
I think you're going to find this to be a very, very interesting story.
And it all goes back to what is true, what is real.
Are we going to put out a narrative that feeds the government side here and we're going to continue down this story, down this government narrative regardless of the facts?
See that's the thing that we need.
When we heard that last
Clip.
And we heard the CNN guy say, he goes, we wouldn't have done this with President Obama.
It would have alienated our audience.
Our audience supported Obama, their liberal audience, and so we wouldn't have tacked him that way.
We're going to attack Donald Trump because that's the confirmation bias of our audience.
We need to make sure that we as conservatives do not fall into a confirmation bias.
There are higher principles involved.
We want the rule of law.
We want the Bill of Rights that we have as individuals that is so precious in this country.
And we do not want to throw that away for anybody.
I believe that with Donald Trump, we have an opportunity as somebody who thinks independently.
And we have the ability to make these arguments with him.
If we disagree with him on policy, we should never blindly follow anybody into battle.
But in certain areas, like we have seen with the climate accord, with the actions in Syria, where there's a division within the Trump administration, we have the opportunity
To weigh in on the side of candidate Trump.
Weigh in on the side of candidate Trump with President Trump.
Remind him what he ran on.
Remind him of the principles.
Remind him of what he saw in Syria four years ago when he called it out as being false.
Remind him of the false intelligence that was used to get us involved in Iraq.
And make sure that he doesn't listen to elements within the government that are trying to push him in that direction in Syria now.
It's very important
That we speak up and just not take a back seat and say we're going to let President Trump do whatever he wants to do.
We're going to support him regardless of what he does.
That is what we've seen far too many people do on the left.
We don't want to fall into that kind of mindless support for any candidate.
We want to stay with our principles.
That's why it is so important for us to talk to people who are whistleblowers, who will go to jail if necessary to get the truth out there.
Now before we go to them, I just want to play one more clip here, because when we're talking about what's going on with CNN, we're talking about this false narrative that they sell for money, this false narrative that they sell for audience.
It's also about their self-absorption, and I think nobody
embodies that better than Jim Acosta and his temper tantrums about the White House press corps not being televised.
Just continually in this White House press release that they had, I'm looking at the transcript here, obsessing about the fact that there's no camera that he can get on to show his face.
There's no camera, Jim!
You have an obligation to put the camera on!
You are a public servant and you need to televise us.
I mean, the information is getting out there.
This is simply about him posing for the cameras.
Let's play a clip of him accosting Spicer.
This is Jim Acosta accosting Spicer at the White House press conference.
John, can you answer whether the president still believes the question?
There's no camera on, Jim.
Maybe we should turn the cameras on, John.
Why don't we turn the cameras on?
Why don't we turn the cameras on?
Put the cameras on.
I want to be on camera.
Why not turn the cameras on, John?
They're in the room.
The lights are on.
It did not seem to have been a drastic shift, starting from maybe the week before the president took his first trip abroad.
But now we see you on camera about once a week.
Is that a new normal that we would expect?
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The idea of Syrian villages is only one possibility we can use, for example, if refugees don't want to go to a country alone that has no other refugees.
People would rather go where compatriots already live, which makes integration and acceptance easier.
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Now, how's that for acceptance?
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Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.
I'm David Knight and we have a very important interview here.
I think you're really going to enjoy this.
We've got a couple of individuals here and I'm reading from the introduction to the book.
The Convenient Terrorist, Joseph Hickman and John Kiriakou.
Two whistleblowers who defied the awesome power of the U.S.
National Security Colossus to tell their fellow Americans the truth.
About the endless war on terror.
As Hickman and Kiriakou write here, this war has plunged the country into a weird wonderland where truth is fiction, where allies become enemies, and vice versa.
And the greatest threats to America are often generated by those in charge of protecting us.
Hickman, a U.S.
Army and Marine veteran who blew the whistle on the abuse of prisoners at Guantanamo Bay Prison Complex.
And Kiriakou, a CIA veteran who served time in prison for exposing the agency's use of torture.
That's right, it's the whistleblowers who go to jail, not the people who break the law in the government.
They're uniquely qualified to tell the sordid epic of Abu Zubaydah, the convenient terrorist whom the U.S.
exploited to justify their own reign of terror in the Middle East.
A very timely story because, of course, this is, as they just said, this is endless.
And we now see it ramping up again in Syria, getting into very dangerous territory.
Thank you so much for joining us, gentlemen.
Thank you so much for having me.
Thank you, and we've got you on two different locations.
So this will be, now let me talk to John here first.
John, I had the pleasure of interviewing you once before, and just as an introduction to our audience from that interview, I remember we talked about the fact that you had ten exceptional performance awards.
You were the one who actually captured this individual that we're going to talk about.
You got a 2016 Sam Adams Award.
Again, as you expose the Bush-era torture program, you're the only person jailed.
Not the torturers who violated the law, you were jailed.
And you wrote a couple of books already.
The Reluctant Spy, My Secret Life in the CIA's War on Terror, and Doing Time Like a Spy, How the CIA Taught Me to Survive and Thrive in Prison.
Now, this book, The Convenient Terrorist.
Let me ask you the first question, and then we will get to Mr. Hickman.
Why the focus on this particular individual by the US government?
Well, we believe that the CIA back in 2001 and early 2002 that Abu Zubaydah was the number three person in Al Qaeda.
Vice President Dick Cheney echoed that in the press.
He said that Abu Zubaydah was the number three, that Abu Zubaydah was one of the masterminds of the 9-11 attacks.
And so we pulled out all the stops to track him down.
It took us about six weeks, but we found him in a safe house in Faisalabad, Pakistan.
And when all was said and done, it turned out that he was not the number three in Al Qaeda.
In fact, he had never joined Al Qaeda.
He had never pledged fealty.
To Osama Bin Laden.
So, we had this guy in our custody.
He was certainly a bad guy.
He acted as a logistician for Al-Qaeda.
He ran the training camps for Al-Qaeda.
He ran the House of Martyrs safe house in Peshawar, Pakistan for Al-Qaeda.
But he was not an Al-Qaeda mastermind and certainly not an Al-Qaeda leader.
Yeah, that's the interesting thing, I think, and you pointed that out in this book.
You said, you know, we want to try to say that, you know, some guy is either an Al-Qaeda guy or he's an innocent lamb.
This guy was certainly not an innocent lamb.
I mean, he became a guinea pig for the torture program of the CIA, but he was not an innocent lamb.
But he, on the other hand, was not the number three guy in Al-Qaeda, and that was, I think, the key part of what they were
Uh, selling the narrative that they sold, uh, America was that, hey, we got the leadership.
Why, why didn't they get other leaders if they were able to get the number three guy?
Oh, you're exactly right.
You know, in those early days after the 9-11 attacks, we really believed that we were hot on the trail of Osama bin Laden, Ayman al-Zawahiri.
We had learned about Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, and certainly we caught Khalid Sheikh Mohammed in August of 2002.
But you're right.
Al-Bazawada was the first high-level capture, so why didn't that lead to any other high-level captures?
It's because he just simply didn't have the information.
And, David, you make an important point here, too, and that is that
So many of us in government wanted to believe that everything was black and white.
That you're either a good guy or you're a bad guy.
And that's just simply not the case here.
Abu Zubaydah was somebody who meant us harm.
Abu Zubaydah was somebody who meant to recruit jihadis to fight against the United States.
But he was not one of the masterminds of 9-11, as the CIA and the White House wanted us to believe.
While at the same time, he was not the innocent naif that his defense attorneys want us to believe.
Let me talk to Joseph Hickman here, because in the introduction to the book, you were talking about when you looked at the Senate Intelligence Committee's declassified report, Mr. Hickman, and you said you were interested to see what they were going to say about Abu Zubaydah.
Whether he was going to be mentioned, and he was mentioned 1,000 times in that report.
Your comment on what your thoughts were with that, and what you saw there as somebody who exposed the abuses at Gitmo.
Well, when I first heard that there was, he was in it 1,000 times, and he was waterboarded 83 times.
My thoughts actually went right to my friend John, John Kiriakou.
I mean, he's the one that really said it before anyone accepted it.
And I mean, his revelations were actually on paper then.
And it was when I realized I had to get a hold of John.
Let's set the record straight on who Zubeda is.
It needs to be done because
Right now, you know, still government officials are still claiming he was Al-Qaeda and it's just not true.
And you said that you had learned everything in his biography.
You had analyzed his government documents about him.
You had interviewed him, his family, his friends and associates.
You were absolutely certain that he was not the number three guy in Al-Qaeda.
Absolutely not.
It's no way.
He was not affiliated with Al-Qaeda at all.
In a sense, Al-Qaeda terrorists did go through his training camp.
Al-Qaeda members did go through there, but he was never a member of Al-Qaeda.
And that was a big problem, too, I think, with the government.
Right after 9-11, we were chasing these guys with the mentality of the American mafia, looking for
Looking for Al Qaeda operatives with that mentality and it just doesn't work in the Middle East.
So they wanted to make this guy into a high-profile leader, even though he was a low-level terrorist within the periphery of Al-Qaeda.
They wanted him to be a high-level kingpin, so they could look good on paper.
And in order to make that happen, they began the waterboarding.
Would that be safe to say?
Is that correct?
Yeah, that's absolutely true.
That's absolutely true, and that's the specific reason why the CIA began its torture program.
You know, the dirty little secret of that torture program is that the FBI, in the form of former FBI agent Ali Soufan,
We're good.
That we were going to use to try to dismantle the Al-Qaeda network in Germany.
But it takes time to establish that kind of relationship, and the CIA grew very frustrated.
They believed Abu Zubaydah was holding back, which we now know from the Senate Torture Report and the CIA Inspector General's Report, was just simply not true.
He's not holding back.
And so they started to torture him, and they tortured him mercilessly.
And to what end?
He never gave us anything else of any value once the torture began.
I remember when we had the previous interview and you were talking about you were there when they captured this guy and he was shot fairly seriously wounded and you were there at his bedside when he came to and what did he say to you?
The first thing he said is that he asked me to kill him.
He asked me to smother him with a pillow.
And I told him, oh no, nobody's going to kill you, Abu Zubaydah.
We've been looking for you for a long time.
And I told him, I'm the nicest guy that you're going to meet in this experience.
My colleagues in the CIA, they're not as nice as I am.
So if I can give you one piece of advice, it's that you have to cooperate.
And he said, you seem like a nice man, but you're the enemy.
And I'll never cooperate.
Well, as he calmed down a little bit, we had longer and longer conversations.
And one of the things that he said that really struck me at the time was that he did not want to attack the United States on 9-11.
He wanted to attack Israel.
He's Palestinian, and he said all he ever wanted to do was to kill Jews.
But he was overruled.
And the reason he was overruled is because he simply was not the number three in Al Qaeda.
He just simply did not have that kind of authority or that kind of access to bin Laden and Zawahiri and Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.
You know, I think it's interesting.
Let's talk a little bit about, and either one of you can address this, let's talk a little bit about just the pragmatic aspect of torture, in terms of getting what you want out of these people.
Because there are legal issues, there are ethical issues, and I don't want to downplay those.
If we lose our ethical and legal foundations, we don't exist as a society.
We become the monsters that we try to kill.
But let's just talk about the pragmatic aspect of this, because a lot of people don't really care about law and ethics anymore in this country.
Let's talk about getting what we want out of these people.
Shutting them down, stopping an attack, and the typical thing that you always see, the ticking time bomb scenario that's from 24 that the media gave to us.
Address those issues for us.
Yeah, do you mind if I jump in first?
Sure, go ahead.
I love this ticking time bomb scenario because it's just such fantasy.
It only happens in the movies, it just never happens in real life.
So, you're right, let's say ethics and legality and morality aside,
Let's say we start torturing someone because we want to extract the information.
We've got to take a quick break.
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I went a little bit long on that intro to that question.
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I'm David Knight and we're talking to a couple of very important whistleblowers.
Two whistleblowers who blew the whistle on torture, on terror, on secret wars, on the lies of the CIA.
The book is called The Convenient Terrorists.
We're talking to Joseph Hickman and to John Kiriakou.
John actually went to jail because he
I think?
Dramatization and 24 and these other stories about the ticking time bomb.
We have no time left.
We've got to torture this guy to stop this terrorist act from happening.
Your response to the real world, somebody who's been there and actually done it.
John, what's your response to the ticking time bomb scenario?
My response is there really is no such thing.
What happens is you start torturing this guy and finally he tells you what he thinks you want to hear.
So in addition he tells you a million other things and what you have to do is turn that information over to an analyst or to a team of analysts to point
Pour over the information and figure out what makes sense and what doesn't make sense.
In the meantime, six weeks have passed and the bomb has already gone off.
So, it doesn't work.
You know, and I would tell people who say that it does work, that that's not the issue.
There are a lot of things that work.
We don't rape prisoners, at least we're not supposed to.
Rape works.
Killing their children in front of them works, but it's morally reprehensible.
We would never do such a thing.
So the issue isn't, does it work?
The issue is, is it legal?
And is it ethical?
Is it moral?
We're a nation of laws.
Whether we like it or not, we have to follow those laws.
And if we don't like the laws, we have a mechanism to change them.
But you just can't start torturing people willy-nilly and hope everything comes out well.
And I think that's the other key, too.
You know, a lot of people will look at this and say, well, you know, you're on your moral high horse and, you know, we just don't have the time for ethics or for law or whatever.
We have to understand that if we allow our government to violate the law, to terrorize people, that is the worst possible scenario that can come out of this.
We do not want to turn our government agents into terrorists themselves.
Once they do that, there is nothing to protect us from them.
That is the most
The most dangerous possible outcome is that we become criminals and terrorists.
I think that's the key part for me when I look at this.
I do not want to see, just as we're looking at this election, and as the FISA court has said that we have law enforcement and the NSA have violated the laws, the FISA court made their ruling, they declassified this so we could all see it, the worst possible scenario
Is to have our intelligence community become this politicized East German or Orwellian service that is now operating at the behest of politicians to attack other people and use the apparatus, the full apparatus of the intelligence community.
And the same thing is true, I think, of torture and other issues like that.
Joseph Hickman, you were there at Gitmo, you blew the whistle on things that were happening there.
What can you tell us about other things that happened to prisoners, other prisoners besides Abu Zubaydah, who was tortured?
What about other prisoners who were tortured there?
What happened?
Well, you know, the CIA had a secret black site there at Guantanamo.
We weren't really sure what they were doing there, but they would transport detainees to that site a few times a month.
And actually,
When I was there in 2006 and 2007, they were doing roughly 200 interrogations a week.
And the CIA, I'm not sure how many they were doing at their black site.
But one thing for sure happened when I was there.
Three detainees were transported to that black site on the evening of June 9, 2006.
Those three detainees came back from that site dead.
So I don't know exactly what happened in there, how it happened, but there were three detainees that were killed that night.
Now we're talking about that being a black side.
I mean, is the legal fiction that we're operating under here, is that because the CIA is doing it at Guantanamo Bay, which is in Cuba, that that doesn't really fall in the jurisdiction of U.S.
laws or something?
Are they playing that game?
It's a DOD facility, Guantanamo, Camp America, where all the detainees are held.
But right outside of there was a CIA facility that was not supposed to be there at all.
I see.
And it wasn't supposed to be operational.
And that's something that we see all the time.
I mean, just the idea of using the semantics of enhanced interrogation for things that had been recognized in the past.
Waterboarding was prosecuted as a war crime by the American government at the end of World War II when the Japanese did it, but then when the CIA does it, they've got a slick lawyer who comes in and writes a book called Company Man, and he rebrands it as enhanced interrogation.
And when we come back, we're going to talk to Joseph Hickman and John Kiriakou.
I want to get their feel for what they think in terms of the public perception of this and the public's support for torture, even after they see the details.
We'll be right back.
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I'm David Knight and we're talking to Joseph Hickman, John Kiriakou, two whistleblowers about torture and terror and the secret wars and the lies of the CIA.
The book is called The Convenient Terrorist.
And they focus on one individual who, although he was a terrorist, although he was involved with Al Qaeda,
The government needed somebody who was a high-profile individual, so they built him up as the number three in Al-Qaeda, which their book points out he clearly was not.
And in order to make that case, he was subjected to quite a bit of torture.
How much torture was he subjected to, John, do you know?
Oh, it was merciless.
He was waterboarded 83 times, but beyond the waterboarding, we did other things to him that I always thought were worse than waterboarding.
We subjected him to what was called a cold cell, where we stripped him naked, we chained him to an eye bolt in the ceiling so he couldn't sit or kneel or get comfortable in any way.
And then we chilled the cell to 50 degrees Fahrenheit and every hour threw a bucket of ice water on him.
We actually killed prisoners using that method.
We also subjected him to sleep deprivation for as long as seven days.
People begin losing their minds at day seven.
They begin dying at day nine.
He also had a terrible fear of insects and so we put him in a dog cage for two weeks and then dumped a box of cockroaches on him just to make him crazy.
Wow.
So there was a lot of... Well that is straight out of... It went on for quite some time.
That's straight out of George Orwell's 1984, where they put the guy's head in a cage and release the rats on him.
I mean, that's absolutely... It's just diabolical that we would be doing that sort of thing.
So when you look at this, and we get some of this information out to people, and we still have a lot of Americans supporting a torture program.
We see a lot of polls where they support that, even though we talk about these details, they say, well, we're fine with that.
I mean, what is your response to that?
Either one of you.
Go ahead, John.
Go ahead, Joe.
Please, John, go ahead.
Go ahead.
Go ahead, John.
We'll let you go first.
I'm always, always disappointed in these polls.
Okay, thanks.
We see these polls come out with some regularity, saying that fully a majority of Americans support a torture program.
And the only thing that I can conclude
Is that Americans don't understand what torture entails and Americans don't understand the law.
We have a Federal Torture Act in this country.
That specifically prohibits exactly those techniques that we used against Abu Zubaydah and other Al-Qaeda prisoners.
We are signatories to the United Nations Convention Against Torture, which has the force of law here in the United States.
And people don't understand, David, that very fact that you mentioned a few moments ago, that in the aftermath of the Second World War, we executed Japanese soldiers.
Who waterboarded American prisoners of war.
It's always been illegal, it continues to be illegal, and it shouldn't be done by Americans.
Yeah, and let me put it from the standpoint of some of the people who were involved in it, who now, they actually do know what is involved with this.
The New York Times just a few days ago had a story.
Talking about a couple of individuals.
Maybe you guys know their names.
John Bruce Jessen, James Mitchell.
These 15 years after they helped devise brutal interrogation techniques used on terrorism suspects in secret CIA prisons.
Jessen and Mitchell.
Jessen is a former military psychologist.
He expressed ambivalence.
I think so.
Ticking time bomb scenario.
They said they were pressured by the military in order to do this.
They said this is this is urgent.
We've got to do this.
So we want you to and this gets to their ethical issues.
The Hippocratic Oath that doctors and psychologists have taken to violate that oath in order to do this.
They were played.
Just as the American public has been played by films like, you know, series like 24 and so forth.
And even when we look, gentlemen, at things like polls.
This last election was a reminder that polls can be twisted, may not have any basis in reality.
They may be using, and frequently do, use polls to push an agenda, or to push a candidate, or to push an issue.
And they don't always honestly report the results in these polls.
So, your comments about those two things?
Well, I think it's true.
I think that we can't trust polls at all.
I do believe there's a lot of Americans that still think it's okay to torture people, but they're just not educated on the subject.
And I don't think they'd want their sons or daughters to be torturers growing up.
These cases were brutal.
The things that they did to Zaveda was absolutely brutal.
If you have a technique called anal rehydration or anal feeding, there's something wrong there.
Yes.
It's not a good thing.
So, absolutely.
I mean, the polls, I don't believe, but I still think there's people that need to be educated and know exactly what we're doing.
People out there.
Well, let's talk about, when we look at this and we talk about rendition and other things, one of the things that really concerned a lot of us who are libertarians
was the National Defense Authorization Act of 2012, where Barack Obama, they put the clause in there saying that American citizens could be indefinitely detained by the military for an indefinite amount of time, okay?
And when you look at that, I think the people who are going to buy into this on a pragmatic basis and say these are dangerous people, and they are, they need to be stopped, and they absolutely need to be stopped,
But as I pointed out before, what do we do when our government starts adopting these types of practices?
Will you be the next Abu Zubayah when this happens?
Look at people like Richard Jewell, who was falsely accused.
We had NBC News and CNN have to give him an undisclosed amount in terms of settlement for six
Months this guy was attacked in the press.
He was a hero basically in the Olympic Park bombing.
He was a security guard there in Atlanta, but then he became falsely identified as the individual responsible for this and he was vilified in the press.
What if they'd had NDAA at that point in time?
What if they'd had a more aggressive approach to that?
What if they had taken him and disappeared him so that he was not able to go through due process, not able to confront his accusers, not able to have a trial by jury?
All of these things that are so precious because throughout history, and our own history, our own western civilization, we've had star chambers that come in and take people and remove them in the dead of night and you never see them again.
We do not want to allow that to happen in the United States.
This has happened throughout Central and South America, where the CIA has been involved heavily.
We do not want to see this happening to our own citizens.
So I would say to people, look at the case of Richard Jewell, for example.
Look at the NDAA.
What would the two of you say about that?
There was a slippery slope where it came to our civil liberties during the Obama administration.
You know, when you have the Attorney General of the United States tell a sitting senator during a congressional hearing, this is Senator Rand Paul, that the President reserves the right to kill an American citizen on U.S.
soil,
Because he believes him to be an imminent danger, but without any due process, without ever being accused of a crime, without ever being afforded the right to face his accusers in a court of law, then there's a real problem.
It is a slippery slope.
It's a slippery slope toward tyranny.
And I think that for a very long time, we saw this happen at the top most places in government.
There was almost nobody to stand up and say, stop, this is wrong.
Yeah, yeah.
Let's talk about what's happening to these prisoners right now who are still there.
Because this particular guy is still there, isn't he, in the system?
Yes, he's held out charge or any due process whatsoever.
Still being held?
To your knowledge, is he still being tortured?
Yes.
No, he's not being tortured.
Okay, and what is the current official status?
I mean, do we know if the CIA has stopped these torture programs?
Have they said they have?
Is there any way to verify if they really have, if they said that they have?
Well, there's almost no way to verify.
President Obama did sign an executive order stopping the Bush-era torture program, but what he did not sign was an order stopping extraordinary rendition, which, frankly, is just about as bad.
An extraordinary rendition is, let's say you are an Egyptian, and I capture you in Pakistan.
Well, instead of sending you back to Egypt to face justice,
I send you to some place like Algeria or Morocco or Jordan or Libya and
I, with a wink and a nod, I tell the intelligence service in that country, hey, please don't torture this guy, but let us know everything that he says.
Well, the reason we sent him there in the first place was to torture him and to disappear him.
So it's, you know, without getting our hands too terribly dirty, we still kind of push the same policy.
Yeah, we can prevaricate around the bush and we can pretend that we're not the ones doing it, although we're the ones who are initiating it.
Let me ask you about the situation that we have going on right now in Syria.
Because there's a lot of back and forth as to who these individuals are.
And as somebody who's been trying to track down terrorists, and we see these people in Syria where they're constantly evolving labels.
They're called moderate rebels or they change the name of their organization.
I mean, what is your general take on what's going on there?
From what you're looking at, does it look to you as if it would be your assessment that we are arming and assisting ISIS as a tool to implement regime change there?
I think, I mean, we're obviously arming the Free Syrian Army.
We're arming a lot of groups over there and maybe even elements of Al-Qaeda.
It's absolutely insane.
It's history repeating itself.
We did the same thing in Afghanistan against the Soviets.
And they ended up being our bitter enemies years later.
It's no way to really fight a war is to
And as you're pointing out, we've seen that going all the way back to the early days of Afghanistan.
Once we have an objective, once we have targeted an enemy, whether it is Russia, whether it is Syria or whatever, we will ally ourselves, won't we, with any elements, no matter how bad they are, in order to achieve that purpose.
Wouldn't you say that's kind of been the way the CIA has operated over the decades?
Without a doubt.
I said earlier today that there's an old saying at the CIA that you can't buy an Afghan warlord, but you can certainly rent one.
And that's what the CIA does.
It'll rent a warlord or it'll rent an opposition group or a rebel group, and then when we lose the taste for that kind of war or insurgency, we walk away.
And here we've armed and funded and radicalized people and then we just walk away.
Well, what do we think is going to happen?
Eventually they're going to turn against us.
And we saw that in Afghanistan.
I think we're seeing the early stages of that in Syria right now.
Yeah, absolutely.
And when we look at the situation that we have in Syria now that they're starting to ramp up Afghanistan again as well, but I guess the key thing here that we see is the conflict that we are rapidly approaching.
When you look at the CIA and you look at the intelligence communities, I mean, it seems like when we're looking at the Trump administration, there appear to be people like Mattis who want to try to focus on ISIS, but then there seem to be other individuals like McMaster, who was allied in the past with Petraeus, who are more focused on getting regime change, getting Assad out of there, and they don't really care who they ally with.
I mean, what is your take on the situation that's going on there at the moment?
I think regime change is a very dangerous policy and it's because we're simply not good at it.
We've never been good at it.
We never seem to have a plan for what happens after the overthrow.
I remember sitting in a classified video teleconference with
This was in early 2003, just days before the invasion of Iraq, and the Vice President was chairing the meeting, and it was Condoleezza Rice and George Tenet, and high-level people, the highest level.
And I remember one of the senior national security officials on the conference
He said that when we crossed the border into Iraq, the Iraqi people were going to throw flowers at us.
And I remember thinking, have we learned nothing from history?
Nobody's going to throw flowers on us if we invade their country.
Well, it's the same thing if we overthrow Bashar al-Assad.
And I'll add something about Bashar al-Assad, too.
Whether we like his politics or not, Bashar al-Assad is the only thing standing between
The Christian community in Syria and its annihilation.
Only 12% of Syrians are Christians and they've had a long and successful run with the Assad family.
If a rebel group takes over, whether it's the Nusra Front or the Free Syrian Army or, God forbid, ISIS,
There's not going to be any love for the Christian community.
And we've already seen that in Afghanistan.
And we've already seen that, John, in Afghanistan, in Iraq, elsewhere.
We've seen the Christian communities who had been there for centuries as a small minority essentially vanish once our warlords took place there.
I guess that's what they call nation building.
But that hasn't worked.
The asymmetric warfare has not worked in these areas, and yet we continue to do that.
We continue to not learn anything whatsoever from this.
And of course, when we look at Libya, I think that's probably a worst case scenario just recently that we had, turning it into, as Rand Paul said, an arms bazaar for Al-Qaeda.
Absolutely true.
We're just not good at it.
Look all over the region.
Look at Syria and Libya and Egypt and Iraq and Afghanistan, Somalia, Yemen.
There have been even uprisings in Bahrain where we have one of the largest naval bases in the entire region.
So we're just not good at this whole regime change, nation building thing.
I think we shouldn't be in the business of doing it.
Absolutely.
We've got to take a quick break, but before we do, give me a feel for what you would like the American public to learn from the overarching takeaway that you would like them to learn from this book, The Convenient Terrorist.
For me, I just want them to learn that everything we're told by our government is not necessarily true.
Especially, I mean, the last administration was Obama's first, I mean, his first executive order was to close Guantanamo.
Me and nine soldiers went forward to his Justice Department to report abuses and deaths at Guantanamo and he completely ignored it.
We did that while we were in the military.
We took a huge risk.
So, I mean, he was, his administration was so corrupt.
And he could have put an end to a lot of things that was going on, and he said he would, but in the end he made it worse.
He made it worse for whistleblowers that came out and spoke about it.
Yeah, he went after whistleblowers and journalists worse than any president we've ever had.
He went after more than all the other presidents combined from the 1917, this ancient espionage act that he had.
And no matter what all these polls say,
People were sick of it and they wanted to blow the system up.
And that's what they did.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
All right, we've got one more segment.
Stay with us, we're going to be right back.
The book is The Convenient Terrorist, and we're talking to two whistleblowers, Joseph Hickman and John Kiriakou.
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But what is the key takeaway, John, that you would like for people to get from this book, The Convenient Terrorist?
I think that the key takeaway is that the government is lying to us, as a matter of course.
They lie to us because it's the only way that they can push their agenda through public opinion.
And I think another thing, David, that's very important is that as Americans we need to demand
Yes.
Yes.
And if they don't like what we want them to do, then we can throw them out, as we should.
Let me add to that too, it made me absolutely furious when I watched the Senate Intelligence Committee hearings, and it was when they were talking to James Comey, absolutely glossed over
All of their illegal involvement, and already we had had the FISA court declassify information saying the NSA, the FBI had violated the law, had violated the Constitution.
Never going to hear that from the Senate Intelligence Committee.
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You're exactly right.
We cannot trust these people to act as overseers.
And that's the thing that's really scary about this when we look at the proliferation
No, I just think, I really hope people read the book and really get a better understanding of the deep state and how dangerous they really are.
You know, what they're pulling over the American people's eyes.
Well, you know, gentlemen, you know, as whistleblowers, I have the utmost respect for you.
You told the truth.
You stood for the rule of law.
You stood for ethics.
And you did it at great personal risk.
And of course, John, you had to go to prison.
Your book about how to do time like a spy.
I hope that our audience doesn't need that, but you know, that's the sort of thing when I look at it, when we have a government that is willing to break the law, when we have a government that does not want to give people due process, and we're seeing this on everything, whether we're talking about civil asset forfeiture, whether you're dealing with the IRS or you're dealing with the FAA and you didn't get permission for your drone,
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And that's the scary thing, to think about how this can morph into an area like we have seen foretold with the NDAA.
Thank you so much, gentlemen.
Thank you for your service to this country.
And the book again is The Convenient Terrace by Joseph Hickman and John Kiriakou.
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It's Alex Jones, coming to you live from the front lines of the Infowar.
Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.
I'm David Knight and of course the breaking news that we've been covering at the beginning of the show as well is the continuing collapse of CNN.
It's gotten unprecedented levels, the way they are collapsing.
And as President Trump pointed out, CNN is not alone.
We've also had Glenn Greenwald point this out in The Intercept, that they're not alone, giving a case study that you probably remember from just about six months ago, where they were telling us Putin is trying to hack our electric grid.
In reality, all it was was one laptop that was infected, who knows how it got infected, but one laptop infected with a single virus, not connected to the grid in any way whatsoever.
Not the local grid, not the U.S.
national grid, but they blew that into a story to try to create panic, to try to push a Russian narrative, and CNN has now been caught at the end of last week
with a deliberately fake story that was based simply on one single anonymous source.
How many times have we seen this from the Washington Post, from the New York Times, by all of these jewel-in-the-crown media?
That are supposed to be above reproach.
That we're supposed to be able to believe everything that they do.
And we just saw this recently with the Megyn Kelly and Tom Brokaw.
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This is what people need to understand.
They need to not be intimidated, not be impressed by the brand name journalism.
Because as we heard from James O'Keefe's undercover story today, they know inside, inside CNN, they know that it is a witch hunt.
They know that it's not true.
And people like Zucker, who is running the organization, is telling them, hey, this is good for business, let's forget these other stories, let's get back on the Russia thing.
This is starting to implode, they have jumped the shark, and we're going to talk a little bit more about that.
We're also going to take your calls, and the number if you want to call in and talk about today's news, let's see, the number is 800-259-9231.
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They're not on the main thrust of today's information.
A Harvard study proves unvaccinated children pose no risk.
However, vaccinated children do.
Very interesting.
This is a Harvard study.
This is a woman who has a PhD in immunology.
And she writes, do unvaccinated children pose a higher threat to the public than the vaccinated?
No, they don't.
This is the herd immunity idea, which is really just a herd mentality.
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No discrimination is warranted, she points out.
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Attest to the outbreaks that outbreaks of measles still happen even when vaccination compliance is in the highest bracket.
That's 95 to 97 percent or even 99 percent and she gives sources.
She said this is because in high vaccine responders, vaccine-induced antibodies wane over time because they're not the same as the antibodies you get when you have natural exposure.
In other words, when you get measles as a child, and I felt like I had measles again, last week when I had a fever for about three and a half days, I had a high fever that just wouldn't go away.
It was miserable and it reminded me of when I had measles.
But that gave me lifetime immunity.
No matter how many vaccines I had, I would not have that lifetime immunity.
And as a matter of fact, she points out, there's been several incidents where patient zero was somebody who was vaccinated.
Incidents in Quebec, Canada, and in New York, New York, and we have covered these as well ourselves.
That's the truth of the matter.
Stay with us, we'll be right back.
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Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.
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Rob Dew said to me the other day, he says, I'm surprised you haven't really covered this story because we've got this tragic collision at sea between a US military ship and a freighter and they were on autopilot.
At least the freighter was on autopilot.
The Destroyer is supposed to have not only all of these redundant navigation radar systems and commercial radar systems, but it's also supposed to have a human watch on the bridge at all time.
And yet, here we have in the vast ocean,
We have two ships, not passing in the night, but bumping in the night.
We have seven sailors who died from this.
Extensive damage to this very expensive ship.
And the thing that concerns people is the idea of military preparedness.
I mean, are these military systems?
This is a military ship, so it's obviously going to be a target of hostility.
A lot of people were kicking this back and forth on Twitter as this story was starting to develop.
Is this a terrorist attack?
Did somebody take over the other ship and drive it into that one?
If they did, why wasn't the U.S.
military ship able to detect that in time to do evasive maneuvers?
What was going on with that?
So people are passing this back and forth, trying to figure out, trying to make sense.
of this tragedy to make sure that this doesn't happen again because, as I said, the military ship is going to be a target of people who are trying to attack it.
It isn't just a simple matter of having ships that are going to navigate on the ocean using autopilot.
But, and so I don't really understand all the different issues that are involved there.
Again, people are in the military, people in the Navy are talking about those issues.
I just look at it from the standpoint of an engineer who's concerned about self-driving cars, for example.
If we can't have a couple of ships or even one ship, if it's simply the fault of this freighter who was on autopilot and just T-boned this military ship, even if it was just the one and the other people were not able to detect it in time for whatever reason, that's very troubling to not make evasive maneuvers.
Isn't that, doesn't that argue against us being able to effectively do that with big semi-trailers?
We're told by Mercedes and other companies that, hey, in a year or two, you know, we've already done this.
We've traveled across country with our Mercedes auto truck or semi-trailer.
We don't need truck drivers anymore for long-distance stuff.
We're going to be able to do that all with self-driving trucks.
When you look at the traffic density on our highways versus the ocean, where you've got a couple of ships.
I talked to Eric Peters, who does automobiles, and he says, you know, they talk about this as being autopilot.
That's a term they've lifted from airplanes.
That simply isn't the case when you've got automobiles.
And when you've got airplanes, they space the takeoff out.
They make sure that they're operating different levels of altitude so that they're not in conflict with each other.
You've got air traffic control that's monitoring it all the time.
And they keep them vastly apart from each other, as you would expect in the ocean.
And yet, when you see something like this and the loss of life involved, what are we setting ourselves up for?
And we've had a German company come out today saying, you know, Tesla's stock took a hit because they said, this stuff is not trustworthy.
Why are they pushing this?
They're pushing it because they have a different agenda.
And if we really want to know what this agenda is, it's an agenda to take our freedom.
We've talked about this many times.
It is Agenda 21.
And when you look at what is happening in places like London, for example, we see these types of things coming in.
Frequently they debut in the UK and London, then they go to the next closest place, which is California.
Not geographically close, but ideologically close.
And what they're doing right now is they're demonizing diesel.
We saw this being attempted by the EPA, when I was, the people that I was working with as I
came here to Infowars.
They were looking at Lisa Jackson, who was then the head of the EPA, talking to then-Congressman Markey from Massachusetts, now a senator.
And they were trying to put out the idea that millions of people were dying.
More people were dying from fine particulate matter that was coming out of diesel exhaust than were dying from cancer.
A blatant lie.
That they were selling to the American people.
And yet, at the same time, they were saying that this was so deadly, what were they doing?
Right there in North Carolina, where I was living, they were conducting experiments there with the EPA, with the university there.
They were hooking people up to diesel exhaust.
They had run ads for people who had respiratory and heart disease.
They wanted to create an incident and they were exposing them to levels that were 72 times greater than what the EPA said were available.
Why are they demonizing diesel?
Why are they talking about taxing
Drivers by the mile.
We got the London Mayor, Mayor Khan.
London drivers are facing Britain's first pay-per-mile road charge and a radical plan to cut car journeys by three million a day.
They do not want you moving around.
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They want to capture you.
Into their system that will be profited by a few well-connected corporations.
And to get an idea of how this is going to break down, another one from London.
A motorist, 27 years old.
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And they're going to foist this autopilot technology that we've just seen here, responsible for a collision at sea!
In the middle of the ocean!
You can't even get this stuff to reliably work.
That's the insanity that we're looking at here.
Alright, let's go to our callers here on hold.
Let's go to Stephen in Washington.
Stephen, go ahead.
Thank you for holding.
Stephen, Washington, you there?
Hello, don't hear Stephen.
All right, let's go to Stephen in Florida.
Hey, how you doing, David?
Hey, how you doing, Stephen?
Good.
I wanted to comment.
I know it's, you know, way after the fact now, but I have to comment on this.
I listened to the entire pre-interview, if you want to call it that, debacle that, you know, Megyn Kelly had with Alex on the phone.
And all anyone's got to do is listen to that phone conversation and then watch what she put out there on NBC to see that she just blatantly lied through her teeth.
Yes.
And so, you know, I was thinking about all that and I watched the, you know, Alex with the, showing the whole thing and, you know, you guys' commentary on that.
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Yeah, I'm calling it about the whole situation involving the riot that's about to happen.
For those who aren't aware, we're about, I think, maybe like six or so minutes, you know,
The riots that are about to happen?
I'm not sure what you're talking about.
Well, you know, we'll have to wait and see.
You know, a lot of times they've called for action and their call to action doesn't materialize.
You know, occasionally they do get a large turnout like they did the women against Trump, I think, you know, the day or so after the
I don't know.
To be able to turn out large crowds.
It's extremely rare.
I've covered politics all my life and it's very unusual for politicians running for a statewide office or even national office to be able to turn out crowds.
It's unprecedented to see the kind of crowds that Donald Trump gets.
And so what you typically see happen is you see some hangarons, some counter protesters, they get a lot of attention.
From the mainstream media they move the cameras around in a way that gives them a larger appearance in terms of presence and then they get very violent and That's the thing that really makes their presence felt stay with us.
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We've been talking today, of course, about the exposure and meltdown of CNN, their fake Russian narrative.
We've also talked about Nikki Haley and McMasters and other neocons inside the Trump administration pushing
A war with Russia.
Not just using it as a narrative to try to stymie the Trump administration, or to try to cover up the Obama administration's illegal involvement using the intelligence community, the law enforcement community, as part of their political campaign.
Highly illegal.
That's the big story, as Rand Paul and others have pointed out.
But even going beyond that, Nikki Haley, McMasters, others in the Trump administration,
Pushing regime change in Syria, not fighting ISIS, and getting right to the brink of actual war with Russia.
That's the danger that we're looking at here.
So if you want to call in and make some comments, we're taking phone calls here.
Let's go to Tucker in Nebraska.
Go ahead, Tucker.
Yeah, Dave, how you doing?
Doing good.
You know, I was just thinking on that Russia deal, you know, with all the collusion and everything they've tried to prove against our president,
Why didn't they not just go wholeheartedly after Hillary and then let the real Russian collusion unravel itself?
You know, put one rat against the other, you know, and watch them all squirrel on one another.
I mean, none of them have any honor.
And if they could do that, I believe that the real story will unravel itself through sources of news media such as yourselves.
And the people could get the real story of what's going on, and these people could finally be brought to justice, because I think we're just all getting sick and tired of watching this story continue, continue with this hope that these people are going to be brought to justice.
I mean, these people tried to bring down the United States of America.
That is treason!
Yes, yes.
Well, you know, there actually may be a case where they're going to be pitting one rat against the other.
Because we've got James Comey saying that Loretta Lynch told him to call it a matter, tried to shut it down.
So basically what he did with his testimony was he called her out for trying to
Well, I don't know.
Feinstein, Feinstein, Dianne Feinstein.
Yeah, it made her queasy.
It made Adam Schiff queasy.
And it should make them queasy, because she broke the law.
Now, if they get the two of them going, we've got Comey, who's testified multiple times.
He's testified, contradicted himself under oath multiple times.
He's a leaker.
And so yeah, they could start getting these people turned one against the other.
I certainly hope that's going to be the case.
Even Hillary should still be in play.
She was never tried and found innocent.
We had somebody who has now been exposed as a political operative using his office as director of the FBI as a political operative.
That's the real story here.
We have the FISA court saying that the FBI and the NSA violated the law.
They released, declassified their decisions so the American public would pay attention.
For the most part, they're not.
We're reporting this, but they're not getting any traction.
Drudge reported it.
It was a Circle report that went into detail as to what was released, and Drudge put that up.
We've talked about that multiple times.
And yet, for the most part, the mainstream media is not looking at the crimes of law enforcement and the intelligence community.
Violating the law and using their powerful position as political operatives.
We've got Senator Grassley and others who are looking into this.
So, this thing is not over yet.
Yes, people may be getting tired of it, but I think it's started to turn now.
We've got the Democrats coming back and saying, hey, we're talking about this too much.
We've got CNN saying, we're talking about this too much.
And we're telling lies and people are on to the lies that we're telling them.
So, they're starting to back off.
This is the time we need to move ahead.
And we need to expose their criminal actions.
What do you think, Tucker?
Yeah, well, I agree with you, but, you know, how do I, as a private citizen, you know, go about doing that?
What can I do?
I think a lot of us are just lost in the realm of how do we put ourselves into this?
Well, let me tell you, they do follow what you do on social media.
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They want to know what the hive mind is thinking.
Is their narrative working?
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And if you put that out there, that is a drop.
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That's an important thing.
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Go ahead, Stephen.
Hey David, I just had a few quick things I wanted to point out.
The first one I didn't know if you guys had covered was this last Saturday, the Proud Boys and We The People Rising went to a Maxine Waters Town Hall event.
I didn't know if you guys had seen that at all.
No, I didn't see it.
What happened?
Uh, we showed up, we protested the event, and apparently scared her so bad that she stayed inside the building after the event, afraid to come out for 20 minutes straight, which was pretty hilarious to see.
Her staff kept trying to juke us out, bringing cars to each side of the building, but we had every single exit surrounded, waiting for her, waiting to confront her.
And when she finally came out, she put a bag over the window.
She ran to the car, put a bag over the window, and then sped off as fast as she could.
It was beautiful to see.
Well, you know, Maxine is quite a character.
If we didn't have her, we'd have to invent her, wouldn't we?
She's always good for a laugh, Maxine Waters.
But there's a lot of people in the Democrat Party that take her seriously.
Well, thanks, Stephen, for doing that in California.
Let's go to Stephen in Arizona.
Go ahead, Stephen.
Hey, what's going on, David?
Hey, I want to talk about, uh, I see where Nikki Haley said they're not going to stand by and let a government spray chemicals on their people.
Well, I live in Tucson and they're spraying the hell out of me with their chemtrails down here.
That's right.
So why don't they shut that down before they do anything else?
That's right.
Yeah, absolutely.
Good point.
Good point.
Yeah, they're spraying the chemicals on us.
They spray chemicals in our water too, don't they?
But then they tell us, oh, it's good for us.
You know, all that fluoride they put in there, that's great for us.
But, you know, that is, I find that very concerning.
Did you hear what we talked about earlier today?
The fact that, you know, of course, when we look at Seymour Hersh's report about what happened,
It appears that it's a totally phony event just like it was four years ago.
We're disappointed to see that Trump launched those missiles.
We talked about that a great deal of the time.
Seymour Hersh goes back and looks at it, but as we look at that in context, we see that that was right at the time we pointed it out that McMaster's replaced Flynn and the National Security Council.
And today we also learned that Flynn was somebody who had
We're good to go.
And Michael Flynn took the unusual step of going to bat for her, writing letters of recommendation for her, getting the ire of Andrew McCabe, who began investigating her personally, and then two years later began investigating in violation of the law because he had no search warrant.
Uh, investigating General Flynn and getting him thrown out of office with allegations inside the Trump administration.
Of course, that is a direct violation even of the powers that they presume to hold under the Patriot Act because they are prohibited from following an American citizen on American soil.
They can only look at foreign citizens on foreign soil.
Otherwise, they need a search warrant.
And so they violated the law.
The FISA court has talked about that.
What do you think about
Everything is happening with the Syrian situation with Nikki Haley and others.
Are you concerned about that?
Oh, yeah.
What we got?
With McCain head over there again?
Are they ready to launch another false flag for Trump?
I'm sure he will.
You know, the interesting thing, we didn't talk about it today, but there was a story that we didn't cover.
John McCain is basically having all the Clinton Foundation donors come over to his McCain Foundation.
What a surprise.
You're there in Arizona.
You're not surprised, are you?
No.
Yeah.
No, that's very sad, so... Yeah.
He better go to sleep, and Shane McCain needs to get down.
So we'll talk to you later, David.
Alright, thank you so much, Stephen, in Arizona.
Have a good day.
Let's go to Johnny B. in Missouri.
Go ahead, Johnny B. Hey, afternoon, David.
Hey.
I'm on the torture subject.
Yes.
You know, how everybody shares the term, flashback.
Blowback.
Blowback.
From the victims of the torture, you know, it's just par for the course.
From an invading entity, you're going to create enemies in the invading country.
That's right.
You activate people who were not enemies before, and you harden the resistance when you do this type of stuff.
That's one of the aspects, yes, that we didn't really talk about that much.
Go ahead.
Money is missing and we really, as Americans, we need to really start talking about this subject.
And I'm calling it, uh, overspray.
Okay.
And what I'm talking about is where these, uh, these terror programs go out with any government, government initiative, you're going to create these cottage industries.
So we've got all this industry created behind torture.
Unbelievable.
Okay.
So now,
Now that they've got the industry, they've got to find customers.
So they bring it home domestically.
So we've got our law enforcement torturing the inmates.
By permission, hey guys, you know, they're guilty.
They've done something wrong or they wouldn't be in there.
That's right.
Folks, look up Schaefer Cox.
C-O-X.
Young man that had come out back in 2009.
Very, very charismatic, Christian-centered,
Uh, people gathering, Speaker.
Uh, Justice Department made him disappear.
He's 27 years.
He's got a daughter.
He only, I don't think he's, well, he might have got to see her in visitation.
But that's it.
So, and that, that's what I mean by overspray.
Because we're creating this industry, our troops go out there and they're taught how to do it, so they come home and say, well, it'll work real good right here, man.
Let's torture this guy a little bit and maybe we can find out where he got his drugs from.
That's right.
You know, when we talk about the military-industrial complex, of course, what they have done is created a police state torture complex, you know, the militarized police state that we have here.
That's a whole profit center for them.
And the only reason that this edifice to stupidity exists is because the American people are not in their proper position in this government overseeing our employees.
Can I share a website, David, please?
Sure, go ahead.
TacticalCivics.us.
It's so appropriate, man.
And what does that cover?
We're covering American civics.
That hasn't been taught in this country in probably 180 years.
You know, it's very important because when we look at what's happening in this country, and we talk about the fact that we have the CIA involved in illegal programs and they violate the law at will, and that has spread, it's metastasized to our law enforcement.
We've got the Department of Defense bringing in MRAPs.
Remember all that?
That was the big rage, talking about that, how they were weaponizing the police departments, how they were militarizing them, how they were starting to operate as an occupying force.
And of course, Joe Biggs and I went to one of the asymmetric warfare centers, where they had built an American city, where they could practice these types of tactics.
We have to understand that if they're going to militarize the police and do this, largely because the military-industrial complex needed another profit center, and now of course they've also restarted the Cold War, so they get back their long-range bombers, their long-range missiles, that's a very
Big profit center.
They've got that going as well, in addition to their entire terror industry that they're operating on.
But they're doing that in violation of our due process, over and over again.
We don't have any rights when it comes to the massive amounts of law.
Most of the law is set up as bureaucratic regulation.
And once they do it as bureaucratic regulation, they can say that you're in violation of a civil law.
You get no presumption of innocence.
You get no trial by jury.
You don't get a trial at all.
As a matter of fact, they don't even have to accuse you of anything.
We see this over and over again with civil asset forfeiture and the drug law.
They just take whatever they wish from you because no longer do we have the kinds of Sixth Amendment protections.
And they do that under the legal fiction.
Of saying that these are not criminal laws, they're civil laws.
And of course, I'm sure that's probably something that you address at your site, Tactical Civics.
We are doing our level best to get the American people to realize that we've got an integral part to occupy, a place to occupy in our government.
We haven't been there in like 180 years, guys, come on!
But David, you know, there's one thing that you're missing there in your overlook of that situation is the subversion.
Because now that we've got to this point where our federal services have stepped outside of any kind of oversight, they've become a global belligerent.
I mean, they are totally belligerent globally.
I haven't seen any evidence of a friend they have anywhere on the field.
That's right.
Yeah, I agree.
The only thing they need, the only thing they need to do to keep this mechanism operating efficiently, or semi-efficiently, is subversion.
Yes.
Cause lag attacks.
Just one little piece of information, either not shared, shared at the wrong time, or fraudulent information to begin with.
And that's all they gotta do.
The system will take care of itself because so many people are ingrained.
Well, I gotta follow this rule, man.
That's right, and once you have some kind of a false flag attack or something that maybe is real, and then they use that to panic the public and to say, well, now we need to implement these systems that we've already put in place.
Absolutely.
Great call.
Thank you, Johnny.
Let's go to Joshua in Ohio.
Go ahead.
Can you hear me, David?
I hear you.
Go ahead.
Okay, great.
Basically, I want to talk about getting out ahead of this next false flag.
We got the White House warning about how, you know, this is going to happen.
Yes.
Isn't that amazing?
You know, we should get out ahead of this.
We got Nikki Haley.
Every time this woman opens her mouth, it's an embarrassment.
Maybe we could start some kind of campaign of Fire Haley and hire somebody like Tulsi Gabbard that's actually been over there to Syria and talked to Assad and knows the people on the ground and has seen exactly how we're arming these radical Sunni jihadis, and that's what I call them.
You can call them ISIS or al-Qaeda or al-Nusra or whatever you want to call them, but they're Sunni jihadis that we should never
Uh, be, uh, aligned with, uh, these should not be our allies.
And then our enemies are the ones that are fighting the radical Sunni jihadis, and it's backwards.
And, uh, then I started looking into Tillerson and, uh, the people who were, uh, involved in introducing him to Trump after this last chemical attack, or whatever it was.
And, uh, you got names popping up like Condoleezza Rice and, uh, Stephen Hadley.
He's the director at Raytheon.
Uh, Robert Gates, James Baker, and, uh, even more interesting, uh, Rex Tillerson's, uh, Chief of Staff is a lady by the name of Margaret Peterlin.
Uh, now, Peterlin, for the last two years, uh, she worked at a, uh, company called XLP Capital, uh, there with her employer, Matthew Stack.
Now, these two individuals are, uh,
The type of stuff that we saw in Vault 7, yeah.
Right, right.
Yeah, that came out in ball seven.
And we got a lot of people behind the scenes that I think we really need to be beating the drum and exposing because, you know, how long is this neocon globalist agenda that's been going on for decades?
You know, how long is this going to last?
I agree.
And I was very concerned about Rex Tillerson in the beginning because I knew that he was for the phony climate change stuff and he did fight for that.
But Trump eventually shut him down.
And I think it's important that we realize that we can still have an effect on Trump.
That's why I said before, if you're a Trump supporter,
You need to remind President Trump what Candidate Trump knew, what Candidate Trump said, what Candidate Trump had tweeted about for years.
You need to remind him about the futility of these regime changes.
You need to remind him how the American government lied to us to get us involved in Iraq.
And as you point out, take a look at Nikki Haley.
Perhaps she was there as an olive branch to some of the establishment Republicans, but
We need to make sure that she is contained.
And I think, you know, do whatever you can.
Talk on social media.
Send stuff to Donald Trump.
I think that he is an honest person, even when we disagree with him.
I think he is open to hearing these types of suggestions.
If he hears them in massive numbers from people, I think he will listen.
He did do the right thing with climate change.
It took a while and I was concerned about it because the pressure that's being put on him by his daughter, by Rex Tillerson.
But he did the right thing.
He got out of the Paris Accord.
And so the people who are in the Trump administration who want to do the right thing, and Donald Trump who knows what the right thing is, but is getting pressured from the other people, if we don't pressure him, he's only going to get pressured from one side, and that's going to possibly turn him around.
So it's very important for you to speak out.
I absolutely agree with what you had to say, but I think we can all play a part in this.
Thank you, Joshua.
Let's go to Russell in Alaska.
Go ahead, Russell.
Yeah, hi, David.
Hi.
Hello?
Yes, go ahead.
Yeah, hold on one second.
I'm sorry.
We got you.
I know that there's a lot of important things going on right now with Russia and, you know, North Korea and all these other places.
But one of the things that we're not talking about is Veterans Affairs.
And a article just came out on the 23rd at MilitaryTimes.com talking about them wanting to redo the
Veterans, disabilities, and everything else like that.
And, I don't know if I, am I still here?
Yes, you are.
Go ahead.
Okay.
Um, and, they're talking about re-changing the entire system.
Well, you know, there are a lot of veterans that rely heavily on Veterans Affairs and everything that they get from the VA, and now we're talking about, oh, well, it's unsustainable.
In the article, it talks about being unsustainable.
Well, that's great.
Hang on, we gotta take a quick break.
We're gonna, hang on through the break.
We'll come right back to you, let you finish up with that.
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Russell, you were talking about Veteran Affairs.
Of course, we've had a lot of problems with the VA not serving veterans very well.
You said they've got major changes in the pipeline.
You're concerned that maybe there's too much that's changing.
Is that your concern?
Yeah, that is my concern and the name of the actual article is from TheMilitaryTimes.com.
It's VA Chief, Time to Rethink Disability System, a Current Setup Not Sustainable.
My problem is that you can sustain EBT, you can sustain welfare, but you can't sustain a system for people that wrote a blank check for their country.
I think that's wrong and you need to stop looking at our veterans to keep taking hits.
I'm a veteran myself, my wife's a veteran.
I'm actually sitting at the Anchorage VA right now because she's in an appointment.
Thank you.
I think you're going to find that Trump is very sympathetic to that.
I think you've got a big advocate in Trump.
There may be some people inside the administration who are pushing other policies, but like we saw with climate change, even though he had the Secretary of State and his daughter pushing to stay in the Paris Agreement, he ultimately did the right thing.
So I think he's going to be on your side on that.
But that's again, that's something that you're going to need to speak up and you're going to need to make sure that President Trump sticks with candidate Trump.
I think that's a very important point to make.
I want to talk about the FBI has become criminalized.
The CIA has...
I don't
Handcuffed a reporter to disgrace Joe Miller's campaign, so he lost.
And that same Bill Fulton is the one who threatened to kill Schaefer Cox.
And the prosecutor, Steve Schrocki, told the jury that they could listen to hours and hours of tapes and they would not find anywhere where
Bill Fulton threatened to kill Schaefer Cox, but there's on the YouTube, there are several places where you can see there that Bill Fulton is threatening to kill Schaefer Cox.
And that is why Schaefer Cox was arrested, because he was trying to flee the country.
Because he didn't know that Bill Fulton was an FBI undercover operator, but he knew that Bill Fulton had told him that he would kill him if he showed up for his trial.
Well, you know, there's a lot of information that's coming out about the FBI.
Not only did we see what Comey did in terms of giving a pass to Hillary Clinton and the many other things, acting as a leaker.
This is a guy who came to the FBI position from being on the board of HSBC, an organization that was convicted multiple times, even after they'd been put on probation and given a fine.
They did it again, laundering money for drug cartels, for terrorist organizations.
So they pick a guy from the board of directors of that organization, become FBI director.
Then we learned today that Andrew McCabe,
Appeared to have a personal vendetta against Mike Flynn, and we know that the FISA court has said that the FBI violated the law in terms of exposing individuals.
So we know that they're operating in a political mode.
I would even suggest the situation with Christopher Steele and the dirty dossier.
James Comey appears to have involvement in that, and people in Congress are taking a look at it.
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