In the Alex Jones Show on April 5th, 2015, there were several news reports and interviews. The
first segment reported that Al-Shabaab had attacked Garissa University College in Kenya and killed
nearly 150 people. This was followed by a discussion about how to combat mass shootings. The chief
of Interpol suggested arming the citizens to protect themselves. However, there were articles
debunking the effectiveness of armed citizens. Stories were shared of people who had used concealed
carry to stop robbers and other criminals in public places. Later, former Technical Director of the
National Security Agency (NSA), William Binney was interviewed. He revealed that the government has
been collecting massive amounts of data on US citizens and working around the world. The process
started in the NSA and spread to countries like UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Germany,
Switzerland, Sweden, Israel, and Russia. He warned that this collection of data is a slide into
totalitarianism. The speaker discusses attempts by totalitarian governments to assemble information
on their populations. They provide examples of this happening in East Germany and the United States.
The primary goal was control over populations, which is evident throughout history since Caesar
Augustus. The IRS, law enforcement, and other organizations have access to this data but are not
allowed to use the original NSA collected information due to it being gathered without a warrant.
This data can be manipulated and used for framing people, as shown in Tom Drake's case where
classified documents were retroactively changed. The government agencies involved commit crimes
while accusing citizens of doing so. These agencies are also spying on those who have power over
them, such as Congress and other governmental bodies. William Binney, former technical director of
the National Security Agency (NSA), has exposed serious crimes committed by the agency. He claims
that there is no oversight and that the NSA is now acting like a totalitarian regime. The
Welcome my friends, it is Easter on this fifth day of April 2015.
We have a special transmission for you today, I guess in radio parlance, they would call it a best of.
But some of it will be original, some of the new special reports that have been filed at InfoWars Nightly News, like the ones you're about to hear here in just a moment, and then the amazing interview a few weeks ago with a former technical director of the National Security Agency, William Binney.
Then we have Barrett Brown, the political prisoner, is going to be joining us from prison.
That interview with David Knight and Paul Joseph Watson, very important.
And then that ties in to Bruce Fine, the former head lawyer for the FCC, who helped end the Fairness Doctrine.
He weighs in on the persecution of journalists and the media and the FCC power grab, Daniel Estelin on the latest on Bilderberg.
We're going to talk to Dr. Andrew Wakefield, recently exonerated with the proof of his studies and what vaccines are doing to children.
I'm not beating myself up because I didn't shoot him, but I know that after he saw me, I think the last shot he fired was the one that he used on himself.
But if you're somebody of age, of sound mind and body, and you don't have any criminal proceedings, I think you should be able to go out and purchase a gun to keep yourself safe.
But not everybody agrees with this point of view.
And there are now actually articles out debunking the effectiveness of armed citizens.
I have some self-defense stories here and for the purposes of this report, I restricted this to public people in public places and not private individuals in their homes.
We'll start with this one back in 2012.
Two robbers enter an internet cafe.
One's holding a bat, the other one has a pistol.
He jumps up with his own pistol, shoots at the robbers and chases them out.
Like the rats that they are.
You see, guy's scary and pretty pathetic.
But he saved the day.
Another story from Wisconsin.
A gentleman pulls out his concealed carry and then shoots this guy once the coast is clear.
Gas station clerk thwarted robbery fired for violating company's no weapons policy.
So this guy, he saved himself and the people in the store, but he lost his job, unfortunately.
Another story out of Philadelphia.
Barbershop patron shoots a gunman dead.
Armed robber, no match for pharmacist with a .45.
And there are videos accompanying most of these articles I'm showing you.
We're just skipping them for the sake of time, but you're welcome to go back and look at them for yourself.
Woman fends off would-be attackers with concealed gun.
And this is a bank employee with a concealed carry.
Shoots would-be robber in the jaw.
Another bank story.
Bank customer thwarts robbery after returning to car to grab gun.
And we'll end with this one.
India's first gun for women fares well among men.
And this was in response to the Delhi gang rape of 2012, where the young lady was raped on the bus with an iron rod by several attackers.
And now they have a gun specifically designed for the women.
I think the gun is way overpriced.
I'm happy to see that the young ladies are carrying this nonetheless and are able to defend themselves.
Keep this in mind as we go forward and hopefully we diminish these gun-free zones and get rid of these soft targets.
Thank you for joining us on this Easter broadcast.
I want to go to our annals here, or our archives for a moment.
Not too far back, a few weeks ago, we had the former Technical Director of the National Security Agency, a huge whistleblower, on the broadcast and he dropped bombshell after bombshell while he was on.
So here are some of those tidbits of information.
Mr. Binney is a real hero.
He'll just say that it's his duty.
But in a world of traitors, someone doing their duty is heroic.
We can recap your story, what's happening, get into the exciting stuff about you coming back from Germany.
You've been talking to parliaments over there.
You've been talking to the EU people, I believe the British Parliament, big national headlines where you say it's a totalitarian takeover and the Guardian.
But here it's starting to come out in the news as well.
I guess they failed to silence you.
We could talk about you working with Oliver Stone now on the new Snowden documentary.
We could get into the slides and break down the fact that it is going on from an expert showing us not what's classified but what's already been leaked so you don't get in trouble.
We're here with the former Technical Director of the NSA, the guy that actually ran it, William Binney.
So you've got the floor, sir.
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Yeah, there's so much here, it's really hard to know where to start because it's really been, over time, it's been, our government has moved into basically sliding down the totalitarian slope, taking massive amounts of data on our citizens and then working around and doing it across the world.
So it's basically they're doing this for everybody on the planet.
And the process started here in the NSA, and it started to spread around the world to the Five Eyes countries, the UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and then to other countries like in Germany and Switzerland and Sweden and Israel.
So the process of data collection, and now the Russians are doing it.
I just read an article where they're starting this kind of operation.
So now the Russians are following our lead in this spying business.
This is, see, when I first started in October 2001, it was very clear to me that this was a process that we were adopting in the United States that was really a Soviet attempt Or a Stasi attempt in East Germany to assemble all the information on their populations.
Why?
It's because they wanted to control their populations.
That was the whole point of the totalitarian states.
It has been down through history.
I mean, this is nothing new.
This has been repeated so many times since Caesar Augustus.
You know, it was so clear right up front.
But, I mean, you can ask anybody in the Tea Party who's been denied access to 501c3.
You can look at the IRS use of the data, look at the law enforcement.
I mean, that's spread around the world to other police organizations around the world, too.
Anybody with an organization or police organization that has a relationship With the FBI or the DEA around the world is subject to getting this kind of information but they'll never be given the original data from the NSA collection because it's not admissible in a court of law because it wasn't acquired by a warrant.
And they don't want to, with foreigners, compromise the fact that they have the ability to collect it.
And don't they then fence it and wash it and they've been caught adding disinformation and it's a perfect way to put into the global data stream frame-ups.
He died a few years ago, Dr. Bob Bowman, and he talked about some of the space planes once, and then they called him and came to his house and kind of threatened him, and he said, Here's where it was released on C-SPAN, and here's where you guys in your own propaganda a decade ago released it, and then they couldn't go after him, but that's the type of stuff they pull.
unidentified
Right.
It's a total fabrication of evidence to put people in jail.
Tell folks what happened to you before we get into the NSA itself.
unidentified
Well, for me, in my case, I mean, I was kind of prominent, you know, complaining to senators and representatives and various other people, as was Tom Drake.
Let's be clear, you guys were doing this internally.
unidentified
We were internal, in terms of the government, yes.
We were going to the inspector, we even, Kirk Mebe and I even went to talk to the Department of Justice Inspector General.
And of course they couldn't say anything to us, but we made it clear what the problem was with this domestic spying.
But for me and all four of us, we were the four who were first raided in July of 2007.
We were raided because we were the ones who signed the DOD IG complaint against NSA, charging them with corruption, fraud, waste, and abuse.
And that caused a DOD investigation of NSA that all verified what we were saying, and that was published but redacted.
Because it was on even even the unclassified embarrassing parts were redacted.
Which is a violation of the NSA regular the government records.
Yeah, well, it's a violation of government classification regulations too.
In other words, Executive Order 13526 section 1.7 says you can't classify something or keep it classified or not declassified if it's evidence of a crime or evidence of that embarrasses an agency or or you can't use the National Security Act to cover up criminal activity.
Exactly, exactly.
And that's basically what the NSA and the DOJ and the DOD with that investigative report, that's what they were doing.
They were redacting it and hiding it from Congress and hiding it from everybody else.
So they're covering up what they're doing.
And for us, they attempted after the raid, by the way, the DOD IG's office was the one that gave our names as the ones who submitted that complaint against NSA, they gave our names to the FBI.
And all you're doing is going to congressional committees and inspector generals whose job it is to have oversight and telling them, hey, they're breaking the law.
unidentified
Yes.
And also, it's the committees who are supposed to, the intelligence committees in the House and Senate, and also the FISA Court, were established after the Church Committee investigation of NSA, CIA, and FBI in the 70s.
And one of the main persons they were spying on back in the Minaret program was Senator Church.
The fake conservative argument and the fake liberal argument is the same.
We're protecting you from Al-Qaeda and drug dealers and all this other stuff, but then as more of this gets leaked and comes out, they're spying on Parliament, they're spying on Congress, they're spying on other agencies, and there's so much spying going on, and you've explained this, that back when you were really spying on the Russians, really spying on radical Islamists, Legally and lawfully, that was already legal and lawful.
It's the domestic stuff that's illegal, but they confuse people and say, let us protect you from Al-Qaeda, when actually they're doing the opposite.
They're letting all these groups operate because they're too busy spying on their boyfriends and their girlfriends and the congressmen.
unidentified
Yeah, and that's one of the cases that came out was what they called an NSA love-int.
Love intelligence, that's where the analysts were looking into the data to see whether or not their better parts or their spouses or girlfriends were cheating on them.
Well, you don't do that, first of all, you don't do that, Erica, you do not do that with metadata.
You do that with content.
And that's what they've been trying to hide, that they've been collecting content all along.
Since 2002, at least.
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And you said before, it upset you to go from really going spying after serious folks, to like spying on congressmen.
unidentified
Yes.
Yeah, I mean, and every U.S.
citizen in the country.
Yeah.
No one was exempt.
I mean, everybody was taken in.
I mean, even Senator Rockefeller, when he was addressed in January on CNN, I think it was, he addressed it, he said, they've got data on, they've probably even got data on me.
Well, I mean, what he's saying was right.
I mean, they're collecting all the data content and metadata on everybody in the country.
They claim, oh, it's just metadata, just, you know, basically when you called, when you didn't call, like a phone bill.
No, no, no, no.
Explain what they're really doing.
unidentified
Well, Mark Klein kind of exposed that, too, and it's in court record in Mark Klein's case, where he laid out the wiring for all the, for the NSA room in the AT&T facility in San Francisco.
Sure.
And on that sink, it was room 641B.
What they did was they put a prism type of fair or a splitter, what's called a splitter or Y connector, where you have a fiber coming in and it sends, it duplicates and sends it down two paths.
One path went to the NSA room and the other path went to the normal distribution of communications.
In the NSA room, all the diagramming showed all the NERIS devices they had in there, where they pushed the fiber optic networks into the NERIS device.
What that did was recompile everything on the line and sessionize it, meaning reassemble all the data.
Like if you send an email, it goes out in packets.
We'll pull all those packets back together and say, here's the email you just sent.
And then they would pass that on to NSA for storage.
And then now we know those hubs are everywhere, and in front of us they're building giant, huge complexes to store it all.
unidentified
Yes, the latest one that they've just submitted an environmental impact statement for is a 2.8 million square foot facility on Fort Meade, taking up basically the golf course at Fort Meade.
What I love about the NSA, we've had reporters of San Antonio and in Utah, and you just get there at the Walmart parking lot and start videotaping, they run up, the police go, how dare you videotape us?
It's just a public, I mean, it's publicly known, it's there.
Meanwhile, they're stealing all of our data, but oh, you can't aim a camera at us.
unidentified
Yeah, right.
It's kind of, they're hypocritical about this.
I mean, it's all, they're all hypocrites.
I mean, they're violating the Constitution.
They say they're not everything that's legal.
Well, that's retroactively passing laws.
The problem with that is, the laws that they pass have to abide to the Constitution.
And when you violate the Fourth Amendment, it doesn't matter what kind of law you pass that says it's okay to do that.
It's a violation of the Fourth Amendment of the Constitution, and it's not constitutional.
And, you know, they've said, oh, the Constitution's dead.
You ignore it, it won't be a problem.
But now we see the President saying, I'm going to open the borders without even an order.
Not even Congress.
Not even an order from Obama.
I'm going to come at your guns without an order.
Or without a law.
They don't even do the fake orders now.
They just do it.
Obama announced yesterday, no more foyers for the White House.
We're just not going to follow the law.
I mean, this is dictatorship, not of Obama himself, but of the system, in my view.
How would you describe this slide?
unidentified
It's a slide into totalitarianism and an imperial presidency and control of population process.
I mean, that's what they're doing.
I mean, they kept everybody in the dark so we had no informed electorate to make a decision about who to vote for about these issues or even embracing these issues.
They're all avoiding this issue.
And they have an uninformed Congress, because that's why Representatives Amos and Conyers got a group together, a coalition of Republicans and Democrats, to try to unfund NSA, because they realized that they were being lied to by the agencies and by the intelligence committees and by the administration about what was going on.
So, I mean, they had an uninformed Congress and an uninformed electorate by design.
And that's basically what the Soviet Union, the Germans, that's basically what they did.
I got a lot of questions coming up for you, William Binning, and I want you to be able to speak on other topics you want to get into and go through some slides you gave us that Snowden leaked so you can break this down for people to kind of give us a roadmap of what's going on.
But my big question is, as best you know, not being there in 15 years, but what's leaked and what people said.
How many people really have access to the big master files to go in and send a order in and then get all my emails from a year ago or go and see a file, a text file of a phone call I had last night?
How many people have access to this?
Because if Snowden could really get access to all of this, that means governments and spies could as well.
So even if we had good people in government, which we know at the top we don't, they built this fraud.
They've built something that could be taken over or hacked and thus compromise everything.
You build something that spies on everything, you've just built something that corporations, spies, private corporate criminals, anybody can get into and exploit and sell.
And with government's history of selling driver's license, selling uranium, whatever the case is, this looks like it's a giant bazaar of information that they've just opened up.
unidentified
Yes, and internally in NSA they have no monitoring of the network as to what's going on and who's using it.
My estimate in terms of, I mean, some of the numbers I've seen say... Let's stop there, I don't mean to interrupt you.
We monitor our network to see what people are doing around here.
We monitor to see if they're downloading stuff that's illegal.
We have to, liability.
The NSA doesn't monitor their own network.
unidentified
That's right.
In fact, we had proposed in the SARC, the SIGINT Automation Research Center, we proposed a program we called Well Grounded that said we wanted to monitor the entire worldwide network of NSA, who was on it, when they were on it, what they were doing, when they were there, as they did it.
And it would be a matter of monitoring the network log, like you probably do here.
The same principle.
It's the idea where anybody on the network sends data down the line, you can see what they're doing, and that's recorded in the log.
So you can analyze that log with software, and that's what we intended and proposed to do.
We had two groups opposing that.
One were all the analysts saying, you will be able to see everything I'm doing.
Oh my, I mean, if I was a spy running America, I would want there to be no monitoring.
unidentified
Yeah.
Well, that's exactly the point.
That's exactly what the analyst said.
But the real opposers of it were the managers.
And the reason they didn't want that happening was we could watch the movement of all the money.
We could see all the money being spent on every program, the return on investment of every program, whether or not they were successful or not, what companies were competing for, all of that kind of stuff.
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You can complain about Big Brother and how this is a potential program run amok.
But when you actually look at the details, then I think we've struck the right balance.
And if people can't trust not only the executive branch, but also don't trust Congress, and don't trust federal judges, to make sure that we're abiding by the Constitution, due process, and rule of law, then we're going to have some problems here.
The big corporations are doing as much spying as the NSA in certain areas.
It is the fact that we have let government corporations get out of control.
Now there's no oversight.
They're doing whatever they want.
It's crazy.
William Binney, former technical director of the National Security Agency, one of the most high-level whistleblowers of all time.
I mean, he has exposed Benedict Arnold-level crimes.
They've tried to put him in prison and failed.
They have successfully put other patriots in prison.
They've put journalists in prison.
But for people in the government, better choose a side, because this is classic totalitarianism.
Every top constitutional lawyer, whether they're liberal or conservative, has come out and said, we're going over the edge, this is scary.
Even Congress is saying that, but there's no oversight, so it's just all out of control now.
Now, there are centralized groups that have a lot of power, but the scariest thing is, if this was a centralized system, we could probably fix it a lot better.
Am I right from your expert opinion that it's worse, that there's not even oversight, because there's all these mini-empires, and God knows what going on, with just unlimited spying happening, and Congress doesn't know what to do?
I mean, this is just crazy sounding.
Is that worse than just having one centralized group running it?
Because we could remove them?
I mean, how do you ever get rid of something that's metastasized like this?
unidentified
Well, that's one of the things that we put into suggestions of the President in January of last year.
We sent in 21 recommendations on how to fix NSA.
One of them was to have our group of technical people be able to monitor everything.
And we had another one to have focused collection of data.
That kind of data is what's pulled into the NSA, not just bulk acquisition.
That removes the possibility of them even querying that data.
Because now they can't even access it because it doesn't exist.
See, if you did a focused attack like we did with our program ThinThread back in the 90s, that would have eliminated this bulk acquisition.
They couldn't do what they're doing.
No one could do love ended NSA.
The FBI and CIA can't get into this data to do whatever they want to, like they can now, because it wouldn't be there.
All the lawyers, all of the senior managers at NSA had all followed orders from the White House, from Cheney and Bush, to do this.
And that's what Hayden directed them to say, that this is what was, this direction was coming from the White House, therefore we're going to do it, it's lawful and we do it.
But to talk about what a hero and how much courage you've got, I mean, you know how serious people are in this government, what they do worldwide, how corrupt it's gotten at that point.
You had the will to march into Congress and to tell them what was going on, the first guy I mean, that's ten times bigger than Snowden internally.
And to really start this whole internal debate and this avalanche of understanding now, I mean, you were really one of the first people to ring the bell to warn folks that the country as we knew it was being dismantled.
unidentified
Yes, and in order to do that, I had to meet with one of the staffers of the House Intelligence Committee, Diane Rourke, that I knew.
So I met with her at her house, because we couldn't trust the House Intelligence Committee, because they were a part of it.
And we also couldn't trust anybody in NSA, so the only place that we'd find we could have a conversation or even talk about this was her house.
In the supposed free country of America, and then you get SWAT team.
Tell folks about that.
unidentified
Well yeah, after that and after talking to other members of Congress, and it was actually the morning of the second day after Attorney General Gonzales' testimony to the Senate Judiciary Committee on the Terrorist Surveillance Program, where he only talked about the warrantless wiretap program.
But that was only a smidgen of what they were doing.
I mean, that was like an infinitesimal of what they were really taking in.
At that time, it must have been a lower percentage of phone calls, but the vast majority of emails inside the United States as well as worldwide, which I estimated to be now at least 80% of the phone calls in the United States are now being recorded somewhere.
That's how Tim Clemente could say that after the Boston bombing, we can get back to what was said in a phone call between one of the Tsarnaev brothers and his wife before the bombing.
Let's be clear, they're saying it on television that they're recording all the calls, but then denying it out of the next breath.
unidentified
That was CNN.
Also, Dr. Mueller of the FBI, in his Senate Judiciary testimony on the 30th of March of 2011, said that he got together with the Department of Defense and set up a database where he and the FBI could make one query and get all past and all future emails on a person.
Now that tells you that that's coming out of Bluffdale, by the way.
All the data is being collected and stored.
And so it's not just phone calls, it's emails, it's everything else.
And of course some of the recent publications show credit card use is being stored also.
How many people in the NSA, how many people have a high enough clearance in government agencies, period, to be able to go in and hear my phone calls, say, to my dad yesterday?
unidentified
I believe the figures I've seen, at least of what's been published, is probably on the order of about 3,000 government employees.
Now, that doesn't count contractors who are managing the data.
That's the real rub.
You have all these contractors who manage the communications, the computers, the data stories, the query programs, and the communications back and forth between the analysts to ensure all... Who could do a Snowden-level breach if they want?
Snowden-level breach, yes.
Yeah.
Because they don't have any monitoring system of them.
Anybody with a system administrator or a super user case, which is what he has.
What's behind... At the end of the day, what do you think the different power elites are thinking?
unidentified
I basically see us moving to a controlled society.
A totalitarian state where it is, the government wants to be in charge.
I mean, when Reagan said we're a country with a government, I think we're now a government with a country.
And all of the things that are happening are only tightening that control on the people.
They're going to manipulate them and keep, as long as they can keep them uninformed, And nobody realizes what's going on, or they don't see the threat.
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I want to go to our archives and play part of an interview that David Knight and Paul Joseph Watson of Infowars.com did recently with a true American political prisoner, Barrett Brown.
An interview from jail.
He's in prison for exercising his free speech.
You know this country's in danger when stuff like this is happening.
Well, the first thing I should mention is that, aside from what I put forth in the article for the Daily Beast about a month ago, and aside from what I'll tell you about today, the great majority of the things that people didn't know about the trial are still sealed.
And that should continue for about six months.
So in addition to all the very egregious things that have happened, there's a great deal more that's still not public.
Now, regarding the trial, I guess the basic lesson here is that the federal government can do whatever it wants, essentially, within the federal justice system.
That's clear from the extent of the perjury, a very demonstrable perjury that occurred in this case, again, some of which is visible, some of which can be confirmed publicly through documents, some of which is still sealed.
And that's really what I've tried to convey to the judge in the allocution I gave, is that when you allow this perjury to occur, we're getting away from the rule of law.
We're getting to a situation in which we're going to the forums.
We're meeting in a nice, very pretty hardwood room with paintings and a big nice wood podium and very pretty robes and all that.
But you're missing something, which is the rule of law.
And if the rule of law isn't there, you're going to see things like Anonymous.
One of the things, reading the transcript, the judge dressed down the prosecutor for not referring to you as Mr. Brown.
And as you're just talking about, you've got this fancy room with all the trappings and everything, but they're grinding the rule of law into the ground.
And I thought, he's worried about being polite to people while he's doing this, while he's railroading this whole process?
It's very important to the people who have that federal government mentality.
You know, I would have preferred him to object at the last hearing when the prosecutor asked the FBI agent, how long has Barry Brown been an anarchist?
That would have been the time to object when they started asking about my political ideology.
Incidentally, this thing about me being an anarchist, which is true, that actually comes up in a couple of other documents, including the The gag order, when they asked for me to be gagged for being an anarchist, was one of the reasons they cited.
In one of the documents that's still sealed regarding my sentencing, they called for me to get additional prison time because I'm an anarchist, and thus more likely, apparently, to commit crimes.
There's a lot of egregious things that, on an individual basis, really should have been a national story, you know, on each given thing.
Obviously, the seizure of the Declaration of Independence, in a more perfect world, would have been a major news story.
I'm assuming it has to do something to do with the FBI memorandum a few years ago when they said, you know, patriots, militia types, they like the Constitution, they might have a copy of the Constitution.
Thus, having a copy of the Constitution might be evidence of a crime.
I'm assuming they just sort of got it mixed up.
One of those enlightenment documents, you know, FBI agents aren't as educated as we might expect them to be or might help them to be anyway.
So they just grabbed it and then, you know, never came up at the trial.
And even for them, it would have been a little much to actually discuss that, you know, in the course of the trial.
One of the things you mentioned at the end of the article was two days before your sentencing, the Department of Justice withheld from the defense team chat transcripts from Jeremy Hammond.
Yes, it actually came out two days before in an article by, I think, Dale Cameron, that in fact, and this is something we had no idea of, the Department of Justice had documents that show quite demonstrably that I was not a co-conspirator in the Stratfor hack, which was a major point, you know, of the DOJ's in getting me, actually getting me initial prison time, this claim that I was somehow a co-conspirator.
And they withheld that evidence.
And the evidence is now public.
It was made public quite before my sentencing.
And this is something that, again, in a more perfect world, the judge would care about just as much as he cares about whether I'm called Mr. Brown or Barrett or Dr. D.
Or whatever.
But it just didn't quite come to his attention.
attention, didn't quite interest it very much.
It actually just goes to show that this particular case, obviously, it's inconvenient for me to be in prison.
But on the other hand, we have a great example here, this whole case, the investigation, all the way to the sentencing of how this system works, particularly if the DOJ very much wants you to do prison.
It's a great example of how they're able to get away with these things, even in the public eye.
And there's the other story here, of course, is how poorly the mainstream media does in keeping up with these things.
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We spoke on the phone the other day, Barrett, and you were talking about, I was asking you what you knew about the Michael Hastings case and how the FBI came out and said that they weren't looking into him.
You said that you believe that 99% that the FBI was definitely looking into him.
Aside from the other reasons they would have to look into them, it's absolutely ludicrous for them to say that because with regards to my group, Project BM, which runs the Echelon2.org website, which was really what this case was all about, they subpoenaed the IP address information for everyone who's ever contributed to that website of ours.
So these are just sort of small players within Project PM.
Now, Michael Hastings, on the other hand, as I noted in a Benedict Fair article a number of years ago when he was still alive and when I was writing about him, you know, he was instrumental when I was first creating Project PM and helping me sort of flesh out the philosophy of it.
So the idea that he, who was in contact with me regarding Project PM, was never investigated regarding Project PM is absolutely 100% ludicrous.
And again, that's in addition to the other reasons they and certain other organizations would have to be investigating and harassing him.
He obviously did a great job.
He's best known for sort of forcing McChrystal to resign a number of years ago, but really, his article exposing the PsyOps campaign used by, I believe, a two-star general in Afghanistan against visiting senators, that's something I cite constantly in my articles for The Guardian or wherever as evidence of, here's what these people are willing to do, even to your elected officials.
Well it means that the federal government now has an expanded toolkit, a vastly expanded toolkit by which to come after anyone that they wanted to come after to begin with, whether or not they've actually committed a crime.
By criminalizing the act of linking, especially in my case where you don't even know what you're linking to, and had no interest or use for the and this turned out the credit card numbers in addition to other information that I ended up linking to, which was already public.
That's a terrible precedent by which journalists, researchers are now at risk.
And, of course, there are some journalists and researchers who are a danger to the government and especially the DOJ.
And thus, you know, the DOJ now has one more option by which to come after them.
Quinn Norton, who writes for Wired, who testified at my hearing, she explained a few days afterwards after this decision That she was going to stop doing security reporting.
It's too dangerous.
She told this to the judge.
The judge at my hearing said, you know, I'm going to go ahead and hit him with this additional year in prison for the linking.
I don't think it's going to be a concern to journalists, which is bizarre because journalists have been expressing concern about this, those charges, ever since they were made two years ago.
And even right after my sentencing, there was a number of articles in U.S.
News & World Report, Columbia, Journalism Review, The Intercept, again, expressing concern about this.
So the judge is not a A brilliant flower of jurisprudence, or anything really.
He's just sort of a puppet of the DOJ.
Not a bad guy, just doesn't know what he's doing.
And so again, alas, that's the situation we're in now.
Now hopefully something will come of this in the case in general.
Hopefully people will make use of what's happened in my case to bring some attention to the mainstream.
Because again, this affects journalists.
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And when you start coming after journalists, then you start, you have the option, the potential to Especially when you're quoting someone, a Fox News contributor, and then they use that against you, that quote.
Yeah, and that's really, I think, the most bizarre, the number one most bizarre thing in a comedy of bizarre errors.
The fact that a Fox News commentator went on television and talked about how he wanted, we should murder Julian Assange.
I quoted that on my Twitter account.
You know, of course, Julian Assange is someone who I respect and he respects me.
We have sort of an association.
That ended up my indictment, as if it was something that I said or, you know, approved of.
And even after we pointed out, you know, in a filing that, you know, this Barrett Brown didn't say that this is some other guy that Barrett Brown obviously wouldn't get along with saying it, the prosecution stuck with it.
Instead of saying, oh, this is a mistake or you're right, they stuck with it and said, yes, he's promoting this quote, Which again, really raises the question of if this is a terrible quote, that even promoting gets you indicted, then how come the guy who's studied on national television hasn't been indicted?
And the answer, of course, is because the guy on Fox News is not a danger to the DOJ.
We'll be right back after this quick break in the second hour.
And I'm going to go beyond saying don't touch that dial.
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We are now into the second hour on this Easter edition.
I want to thank all of you for listening and spreading the word.
I'm Alex Jones.
We're now going to go to a special report from InfoWars Nightly News, and when we return, we'll have excerpts of an extremely important interview we did with investigative journalist, best-selling author Daniel Esselin on the secrets of the Bilderberg Group, then Dr. Wakefield, Bruce Fine, and more.
There is an extra special and rare total lunar eclipse taking place this Saturday morning.
It has some people worried for this Easter weekend.
The blood moon is a rare celestial event, yet for the third time in less than a year, the moon will dip behind the Earth's shadow, appearing a deep coppery red for a few minutes.
And this will transform the skies over North America, Asia and Australia into a deep red color.
Now there are several interesting things about this particular blood moon.
While some eclipses can last an hour or more, this will be the shortest lunar eclipse of this century.
It's also taking place the morning of Easter Vigil, which is traditionally observed as the period between Good Friday and Easter Sunday.
The eclipse also falls within the first night of Passover, which is observed by Jews worldwide beginning Friday at sunset.
Now, according to NASA, the rare tetrad of four alignments in close proximity has only happened a handful of times in the last 2,000 years.
The final blood moon eclipse of the tetrad series will take place September 28, 2015, which also happens to be a Jewish holiday.
Many people believe that these lunar eclipses and their appearance on auspicious dates signals a world-changing event that's about to take place.
Joel 2.31 Now there's something else about this Tetrad series that's pretty bizarre.
It happens to fall in a Shemitah year.
This is something that hasn't happened for 2,000 years.
Rabbi Jonathan Kahn points out in his book, The Mystery of the Shemitah, that these years in the past have brought down economies, kingdoms, and nations that haven't followed God's will.
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A very major thing happened that escaped most people.
The Shemitah began in the autumn of 2014, and what happened is within two weeks, well, actually within one week of it beginning, and remember the Shemitah can mean the fall, within one week, America was overtaken.
Russia became the greatest nuclear power on Earth.
It actually surpassed the first week of the Shemitah.
The second week of the Shemitah became something even more major, and that is that the American age that began in the year 1871, when we became the strongest economic power on Earth, came to an end immediately.
America was dethroned as the Shemitah began.
It is now China has taken the crown of America.
Now I've warned for it since the Harbinger came out, I've warned that if we don't turn back to God, there is going to be the crown that America has worn as the head of nation is going to be removed.
We are seeing the beginning of that right now.
And so we are watching, actually, when the same week that the Shemitah began, Wall Street went crazy for about a month.
Now, the pattern of the last Shemitahs have been that often at the beginning of the Shemitah, you don't notice anything, but there are often foreshadows.
Well, the major thing, if something's going to happen, the major period is going to be coming up, is always at the end of the Shemitah, as we approach September.
That's the time of that wipeout.
I'm not saying it has to happen, but I believe we need to be aware of it.
And interesting, people who look at signs, one of the signs in the Bible of judgment is the darkening of the sun, or an eclipse.
Not that it always is, but it can be.
On the day that we get to the Wipeout Day, Elul 29 of this Shemitah cycle, the sun's going to be darkened at that time.
The last time that happened was 1987, when the The sun was darkened at Alul 29.
It led into Black Monday, the worst day crash in world history.
I believe we are going to watch.
If we don't turn back, if this nation keeps on going on its course, we're going to watch the fall of America or the shaking of America and the American age that you and I and all our listeners have known since we were born is going to come to an end.
Central Standard Time on the morning of April 4th.
the Earth's shadow will slowly move across the moon, covering it entirely just before 7 a.m.
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Daniel Estelin is one of the only living people who has connections into the Bilderberg Group.
I get some intel from people on the periphery, but I do not have a source directly inside Bilderberg.
Daniel Estelin has written several international bestsellers on the Bilderberg Group.
He's also written a thinly-veiled fiction, that of course really isn't fiction at a lot of levels.
Just like Ian Fleming's James Bond, Novels were true stories put into a composite and he now has released a documentary.
We're going to be telling you about today So he's got the big scoop on where it may be held this year Is it accurate as some are saying that it's going to be in Austria and a lot more Daniel.
And so we've been doing this for a long, long time.
And of course, Jim Tucker was with us.
He's no longer with us.
But there's a lot of people out there who are doing what they can to make sure that this story doesn't die.
And again, this global awareness, which we were talking about before, on the world stage, people are becoming aware more and more what's going on as a result of technological revolution, Internet and everything else out there.
It's getting more and more difficult for the global elite to hide their deeds.
Well, the Bilderberg meeting is being held actually in 2015 in Austria on my Twitter account, at Estrel and Daniel.
I published a couple of months ago an information, a report that I got from my intel sources in the Ministry of the Interior of Austria, who sent me the report.
Saying which date that everybody in Austria has to be on the lookout.
There is no holidays that week.
I believe it's from the 9th of... I can't remember exactly the date right now, but it's the beginning of June and it is being held in Austria and we have the documents to demonstrate it.
As far as what's going on in the world, the globalist elite, the reason actually all this information is coming out right now, Alex, is that the global elite are faced with the reality of seeking to dominate populations that are increasingly becoming self-aware and are developing a global consciousness.
Thus, a population being subjected to domination in Africa, for example, has the ability to become aware of a population being subjected to the same forms of domination in the Middle East, in South America, or in Asia, or even in Europe, in Greece, for example.
And they can recognize that they're all being dominated by the same global power structures.
And that is the key point.
Not only is the awakening global in its reach, but also in its nature.
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It creates within the individual an awareness of the global condition.
So it is a global awakening, both in the external environment and also in the internal psychology.
And this is something that the elitists, such as the Bilderbergers, the Trilateral Commission, Council for Relations, Penite Circle, Bohemian Grove, and all this, you know, ONGs, Rockefeller Foundations, Carnegie's, you know, Hudson's and Hoover's.
They simply, you know, can't deal with it right now because it's a new game.
And this new reality in the world comes with the fact, Alex, that the world's population has never been so vast.
...presents a challenge to elites seeking to dominate people all over the world who are aware and awakened to the realities of social inequality, war, poverty, exploitation, disrespect, imperialism, and domination.
And of course, this directly implies that these populations will be significantly more challenging to control, both economically, politically, socially, psychologically, and also spiritually.
Well, we actually, we're in a post-production now.
The film comes out at the end of May, beginning of June.
We've been at it for about four years.
It's our production.
We've done interviews in 11 countries, Canada, the United States, most of Europe.
We've traveled up and down all over the place.
The first producer of the documentary was actually wiped out economically, if you believe in conspiracy or coincidence theories, won three banks, called in loans on the same day, and basically bankrupted him.
This happened twice, once with the vacation motion picture, and now with the documentary, which is why it took us a bit longer.
But it's almost in the post-production stages.
I'll tell you a little anecdote.
I sent a letter, an email, to Martin Wolf, the Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist with the Financial Times.
And I asked him for an interview and I got a reply and of course we're going to put it in the documentary.
He sent an email, how dare you make a documentary about the Bilderberg Group.
So the documentary is coming out at the beginning of June, end of May.
We're in a post-production and you know we're very very close to the finish line.
We're going to be over that finish line and the film is going to be out worldwide release.
There's a lot of international large film festivals who are very interested.
And also Bilderberg Has become a household name.
The book came out 10 years ago, and now everybody knows about it, and I think this is the time.
It's the right time, socially speaking, with all the changes taking place in the world, that people think finally are ready to embrace this concept that you've been talking about for about over a decade.
And, you know, I've been talking about it for over a decade.
I know a lot of it now is pretty much, as you said last time you were on, is put out at Davos, but what's on the agenda for 2015 in Switzerland, er, in Austria?
It's kind of a vague term that is, you know, actually refers to cutting social spending and increasing taxes.
And the effect this has is that the public sector is devastated as all assets are privatized.
Public workers, you know, are fired en masse.
Unemployment becomes rapid.
Health and education disappear, taxes rise dramatically, and currencies are devalued to make all assets cheaper for international corporations and banks to buy up, while internally causing inflation, dramatically increasing the cost of fuel and food.
In short, fiscal austerity implies social destruction, as we're seeing right now in Greece.
as we saw in Spain, as we saw in Portugal, and as we see, you know, in Italy.
And, you know, the social destruction of the social foundations of nations and peoples are pulled out from under them, states that become despotic and oppressed, the people who actually revolt against austerity.
And this is called the sterilization of society.
And this is the term, again, this is the term, Alex, you're going to be seeing a lot more, you know, with the build-up to Bilderberg and then post Bilderberg.
We talked about this before, you know, terms like deindustrialization, zero growth, demand destruction, you know, they were discussed at these private secret meetings, and then suddenly there were friends at the center of major newspapers, Next big front and center newspaper piece is sterilization of society.
It sounds awful.
Just the word sterilization itself with all the connotations.
When you start sterilizing society, it takes on a meaning of its own.
It takes, you know, to an nth degree, you know, of evil that, needless to say, we have to make sure we fight this.
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Elaborate on how, where's the lawsuit going, how your colleague, the co-author, super prestigious.
I mean, I looked him up, like you said, one of the top, you know, gastro experts in the UK or Europe.
That's why they were so scared of you guys and had to shut you down because you're smart, well-spoken, prestigious, getting results, helping people, had to be destroyed, but they failed.
You came back like the Phoenix and that's so exciting.
So, so break down where that fight's going right now as well.
When the GMC rendered their opinion and had their decision and had us struck off the medical register in the UK, both Professor Walker-Smith and I filed an appeal.
And I did not get funded for my appeal.
It would have cost me about £500,000, which I didn't have, to fight that appeal, so I had to withdraw my appeal.
They had been given their marching orders and they were going to get a guilty verdict, whatever.
And at the end of it, counsel on behalf of the GMC admitted Said, we're sorry, we know mistakes were made and we didn't handle this properly and the judge said it would be a shame if this were ever to happen again.
You go away and you change your whole process of conducting these fitness to practice inquiries.
So, it was demolished.
However, they got what they wanted and that was taking my license away.
And now autism rates have gone, I mean they vary, the highest are in South Korea, correct me if I'm wrong, like 1 in 30-something, it's 1 in 50-something here now, it was 1 in 68, it was 1 in 25,000 30 years ago.
I mean, I can see the children when I'm at the grocery store or I'm out in public.
Kids aren't looking too good.
And the babies aren't.
And I mean, you go to a movie theater, sometimes the thing is just full of autistic children.
God bless their little hearts, you know, babbling and just going through hell.
And I go to doctor's offices sometimes to take my children to the pediatrician and I'll be in there and there's like 15 kids and five of them are autistic.
I mean, this is an epidemic.
Is it going to be 1 in 10?
1 in 5?
1 in 2?
I mean, how long will this go?
How many?
I mean, does half the population have to be sitting in the corner in diapers cussing when they're 15 years old?
Screaming at their parents before we do something?
There's the epidemic that's occurring now, and then there are the children who are already damaged.
What do we do about those children as they age out and they become adults?
As you say, sitting in diapers at the age of 15, 20, 25.
Unable to cope, unable to deal with themselves.
We had a tragic case here in Austin the other day of a young man who was in a group home in the district, in the community, and a simple thing happened.
I think someone stood on a DVD of his.
He had a meltdown.
He went running around the district, knocking on doors, and he was shot four times.
I mean, it's... Yeah, and nobody understands the problem.
This is the problem.
The people out there in the community do not understand what autism is, or that these individuals have no sense of danger whatsoever.
So, what are we going to do with all of these autistic adults?
And that's a tragedy, and someone here in Austin, Polly Tommy, is creating the Autism Trust to provide a long-term home for these individuals where they won't be drugged.
It won't be simply put on psychotropic medications which have no indication in autism whatsoever, but make life easier for the carers.
Well, I know a lot of personal friends, some quite famous people as well.
I mean, you'll be on the phone with them and, you know, there are kids in the background going just over and over again screaming at them, I mean, for hour after hour after hour.
I mean, it is... I couldn't think of a way to debilitate a society better.
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Ohio's governor declaring a state of emergency.
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What we're looking at is a system that is in meltdown right now.
And they're in meltdown for a number of reasons.
You can only sustain a lie, a falsehood, for so long.
And now that Dr. William Thompson, senior CDC scientist, has come forward and said that they have known for 13 years that MMR vaccine is causally associated with autism and they have hidden it from the public, from doctors, from public health officials, from everybody.
They've kept it to an inner circle of people who knew the truth all along.
And have allowed millions of children to be put in harm's way in the interim.
And he could no longer live with that, and he's come forward with that now.
And one has to hope that that goes before a congressional committee sooner rather than later.
And if I have one message for your listeners and your viewers, it is that you must implore that your congressmen take this very, very seriously and support Congressman Bill Posey's efforts to get this before a committee just as soon as possible.
And it's rather like Salem or more recently, as you point out, it's rather like banning the Nazis, banning Jews from using public transportation in order to avoid being contaminated by suspected infection.
And if you have a vaccination policy in this country which mandates, which takes your children away, which puts you at gunpoint, which puts parents in prison for not vaccinating, that is not built upon public trust or confidence.
That is a disaster.
And public health policy, vaccination policy, requires the confidence of the public, and they have lost it.
In America and Europe, they're trying to make vaccines forced and they're coming out with hundreds of new ones where companies lobby and then government says it's the law to take it.
They tried to have Rick Perry a few years ago run the hoax of saying it was the law with the Gardasil.
I mean, there's no end to the depths.
And as you said, I'm here following it.
I'm here talking to the public.
They're doubling, tripling down.
It is backfiring.
But it shows this totalitarian instinct that now permeates government.
Absolutely, but the current schedule and certainly MMR meets none of those criteria.
None at all.
And we have a major, major problem.
Let me characterize this.
There are measles outbreaks apparently now in California and elsewhere.
MMR vaccine, Measles, Mumps, Rubella vaccine does not protect against measles.
Measles vaccine protects against measles.
And the only recommendation that I have ever made in respect of MMR is to give them separately and delay them so that you have an interval between each vaccine.
When MMR came in in Japan, there was a dramatic rise in the incidence of autism.
What they found is that the vaccine caused meningitis.
The mump strain of the vaccine caused meningitis.
Public confidence was lost and the vaccine was stopped.
And the uptake of the vaccine and the decline in the use of the vaccine exactly mirrors the rising and falling incidence of autism.
Now, what happened next was that there was a rebound, a dramatic rebound in the incidence of autism.
It went up, skyrocketed.
Why?
They never used MMR again.
But what the vaccine policy recommendation was in Japan was to use to give children at 12 months the measles and rubella vaccine on the same day.
And to give voluntary months vaccination not less than four weeks later.
Now that in many ways is still giving combination viral vaccines.
So you're recapitulating the same problem that you have with MMR.
Now, the kicker is, Alex, that the single mumps vaccine, the one that caused meningitis, when it was given on its own, caused little or no meningitis at all.
It was when it was put into the MMR...
But there was an unacceptable level of meningitis.
What does that tell us?
It tells us that you get a novel, unexpected, adverse event associated with the combination vaccine that you did not get with a single therapy.
Dr. Blaylock, who's coined a lot of terms that are now in mainline medical journals, says that there's basically an adjuvant effect of mixing them together.
Well, we told folks that there were some tips on to win the lottery in here, or maybe fantasy football, they might read it, but I mean, if I was going to put any drug I want to put in my body, I don't care what it is, antibiotics, anything, I go read the insert.
In the presence of the current concerns about the safety of MMR vaccine, they must have a choice of how to protect their children against infectious disease.
Well, I know you're here warning people, as a doctor, and trying to save folks, but tell us about Your story, recapping it briefly, where it is, where your lawsuit is, your co-author being exonerated, I know you're moving towards that.
You've been exonerated with the whistleblowers, the previous studies, but this has got to really hurt the people that tried to destroy you, as just fate would have it, all this evidence pours out.
Well, Alex, I've been in this 20 years now, and that feels like many, many lifetimes.
But we listened to parents who said that my child was perfectly normal, I'm not anti-vaccine, I took my child to get vaccinated.
When I did that, they got the MMR and they regressed into autism.
And they also developed gastrointestinal symptoms.
And as a physician interested in Gastrointestinal disease, I recommended those children should get investigated for that.
They were investigated by the world's leading pediatric gastroenterologist at the time, Professor Walker Smith, who you've just mentioned, my co-author on the paper, and he found that they had an inflammatory bowel disease.
We treated that disease.
Not only did the bowel disease symptoms improve, but the behavioral and autistic symptoms improved.
It was the beginning of a fascinating journey, but We had to investigate whether the parents were also right about whether the vaccine had precipitated this.
That's when the problem started.
And so Murdoch's brought his team of journalists along, Brian Deer, they came up with this extraordinary story that we had involved ourselves in fraud and deception, that we had made it up, there was no ethical approval, all of this kind of thing, while at the same time holding back from the General Medical Council inquiry vital documents ...that showed there was indeed ethical approval for this study.
He knew throughout the investigation and the proceedings that he had in his possession key documents.
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I've never seen behavior like I've seen.
from the executive and then the Republican leadership seems to roll over because they're licking their lips, I guess, to have all this power when they get a president in charge.
So, again, I'm worried about an imperial presidency, not even so much Obama.
But I am shocked by the left that if Bush was trying something like this, you would have just heard howls and...
And now they say, hey, a lot of them make Obama a dictator.
It's very, very important, Alex, in a democratic country like ours, you know, that we have government in the sunshine.
There are a few things that need to be secret location of truth, but relatively few.
Transparency, sunshine is said to be the best disinfectant, but we have a right to know what our government is doing.
How can we give consent?
To a government that's acting in secret.
And so, the whole idea that... When I was working as counsel on the Iran Conflict Committee, this is during the Reagan period.
I mean, President Reagan was having Secretary of State George Shultz testify as National Security Advisor was testifying, Cap Weinberger was testifying as Secretary of Defense.
It was all open in the sunshine.
This is President Reagan.
And now we have people like the Chairman of the FCC.
I don't want to answer questions.
I don't want to show up.
Well, the Congress should be telling you, one, if you don't show up, we will impeach and remove you from office.
Because you have an obligation to explain to the American people what you're doing and why, because you are there.
Well also, they promised to release the 332 pages as soon as they announced it, and then they haven't released it until now.
Have the Washington Post making fun of anybody that asked to see it, when we know they printed it up in book form, and they've been waving it around on TV for a month with this red tape around it.
So I guess if they don't testify to Congress, why ever release it?
Well, they may be trying to bolster their defenses against what's sure to be a legal attack on the net neutrality rules.
The Court of Appeals here, the U.S.
Court of Appeals in the District of Columbia, has rebuked the FCC on numerous occasions for overreach.
They may be worried that the shallowness of their explanations need butchering before there's going to be an immediate appeal.
And perhaps my expectation, Alex, would be that there'll be a stay of the FCC rules until there's a final court adjudication, which means there's years away, given the legal frailty of their promulgation.
Well, you know, what we need is to restore our fundamental precepts as a country, which haven't changed in over 200 years.
Human nature hasn't changed.
You know, the empire of psychology hasn't changed.
And we have, I think, Alex, anywhere from 30, maybe 35 years to completely reorient ourselves as a country whose influence abroad is the influence of example.
We need to restore separation of powers back home, transparency.
We defend ourselves, but we don't go abroad in search of monsters to destroy.
Borrow 18, 19, 20 trillion dollars running around the world like Don Quixote, thinking that we can change cultures that are a thousand, five thousand years old.
ethnic rivalries and despotism into democracies.
You can't do it.
You know, if you could, those people who believe that, Alex, I say, let's hire me to build a perpetual motion machine.
Well I agree with you and in closing you notice that...
Rand Paul won the CPAC poll, and he's nowhere in the news.
And then they have a whisper campaign, a libertarian movement.
Oh, he's not perfect.
You know, he's not his dad.
So we better not support him.
He's the best in the field.
That's why the power structure's coming after him and ignoring him, folks.
I want you to briefly comment on that, because you've got to go.
And then also, have you heard about the London Guardian?
Our reporters have been up there.
There's a giant five-story, and then a four-story, and a three-story complex.
With black sites where people have died, where people are kept for up to two days shackled, and aren't even put in the arrest database in Chicago to then ring these fake confessions.
They send police lieutenants and others from there to then run operations at torture camps at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, Afghanistan, and Iraq.
No, there have been cases in the past year, I think was one, where people just disappeared into the jaws of the CIA, where you were kidnapped and held for years illegally.
But I'm not fully apprised of what you've described there.
I don't want to miss the opportunity to explain Rand Paul.
Sure, he clearly is going to be the one most attacked, because he's challenging the military-industrial complex that President Eisenhower warned us about 50-some years ago.
So they'll be making up all sorts of things about Rand and trying to obscure his popularity.
And we need to remember, too, we're never going to get a candidate that is 100% everything we agree on.
You know, no one's a clone of anybody else.
He runs for office and there are different demands than being a philosopher and writing something perfect.
We shouldn't squander the good on the altar of the perfect.
This is ridiculous to suggest that Rand doesn't deserve our support because there's a few semicolons and curly Qs that we disagree with.
On the fundamental issues of who we are as a nation and of liberty being the center of our constitutional universe, he's heads and shoulders above any other candidate in the last 20 Sure, nobody else is saying end all the foreign aid.
That is a champion of the First Amendment right there, and a guy of action.
Bruce Fine, very honored to have him on with us, BruceFineLaw.com.
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