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	Big Brother.
	Mainstream media.
	Government cover-ups.
	You want answers?
	Well, so does he.
	He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
	And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
	Welcome my friends, welcome to this live, worldwide broadcast, Wednesday, the 18th day of March 2015.
	I'm your host Alex Jones, William Binney, the highest level NSA whistleblower ever, who was SWAT team raided after he spoke to Congress, and who has since vindicated, will be joining us in studio here in Austin, Texas today.
	We're also going to be talking to the head of the Organic Consumers Association, Catherine Paul.
	Their organization was set to speak at a major event about food quality and safety in Southwest.
	But Big Pharma and Big Biotech, Monsanto connected groups, had anyone, not just their organization that was already set six months ago to speak, banned.
	Gene Giant kicks OCA off a Southwest Food Panel discussion.
	So this shows what a totalitarian, sanitized, anti-human event this is, and why I've been going after it every day here, as just a showcase of how the globalists propagandize and try to shape culture.
	That said, we knew this was coming when they kept the FCC regulations secret, when they wouldn't testify before Congress.
	And now we've got the 400 pages.
	FCC chairman concedes, and there's video, that future internet tax is possible after all.
	And the FCC's proposed those before.
	The FCC's tried to take over the internet before.
	They've proposed things.
	They want cable.
	All telecommunications.
	And they got big backlashes.
	But then when they came forward as the saviors, and George Soros funded 196 million to all the fake leftist groups, why then it was racist, literally, according to them, if you didn't hand over the internet to the government and the corporations that control it.
	The ultimate Trojan horsey.
	That's just some of the news.
	A backyard burger and wiener roast targeted by EPA.
	Told you they're banning fireplaces and outdoor roasts in Europe.
	Now it's happening in the United States.
	Also, EPA wants to monitor how long hotel guests spend in the shower.
	Can't make that up.
	Meanwhile, Detroit businesses face water shutoffs, even if you try to pay for it.
	This is all part of the deindustrialization program.
	There'll be no shortage of cream and other goodies up in the Globalist Command Centers.
	Continuing White Privilege Conference Workshop pushes grade school, that's K through 5th grade, lessons about gender, queer, transgender, and gender fluids.
	That's right, let's teach the first graders about things I can't even say on the air and wouldn't want to say on air.
	And then we've got just more police videos being released.
	This one of a woman already being tortured, begging for help so the sergeant starts choking her.
	And then they did an investigation and said he acted admirably.
	This is a society breaking down when they defend this type of torture that they call pain compliance.
	And you watch the video, the cops are all getting off on it.
	These are bad people, in my view.
	Very shameful.
	And defending it, if you're a cop, will help bring down the country, which is part of the globalist larger plan.
	In really big economic news, again I'm going to detail all the things I mention when we come back, China gaining Western allies as development bank partners, a blow to US efforts, and that ties into an article on Infowars.com.
	Cracks in Washington's empire, Washington's EU vassals might be finding their backbone, joining the new communist Chinese system.
	Also, ice jam pushes up into Ohio Cemetery, toppling headstones.
	Ice boulder crashes through Wilmington, Delaware apartment building as the new Ice Age looms.
	Record cold temperatures continue in the east.
	And we've got the government caught in the trifecta of funding and protecting terrorists.
	It's all coming up.
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	It's the plan!
	Kill the country!
	World government!
	It's here!
	The challenge is how to build.
	We'll do it.
	Never before has a new world order had to be assembled from so many different perceptions, or on so global a scale.
	The governments don't rule the world.
	Goldman Sachs rules the world.
	This is, we are going to carve up the world according to the way we want to.
	Unelected world government looting you.
	They've exercised power for actual world global control.
	I know what North Korea is.
	I know what the TSA is meant to be.
	You want to shut their energy systems off?
	You want to break up their families?
	If you have so much power,
	In play.
	You can do anything.
	Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage.
	And basically, you know, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever.
	You understand?
	You're living in a science fiction movie.
	I'm living in it.
	The government has just approved the use of a computer chip that would be implanted under your skin.
	When complete, everyone will have a unique 12-digit identity number.
	That DNA is stored even without your consent.
	But I mean, do they point-blank say, we're putting a chip in you?
	Uh, yeah.
	It was an interior barcode, if you will.
	This makes my head explode.
	That your television could be eavesdropping on your conversations and then sharing it over the web?
	All the cars now have tracker boxes that can remote control your vehicle.
	In them!
	The Justice Department is building a national database to track in real time the movement of vehicles around the U.S.
	storing hundreds of millions of records about motorists.
	It's like the elite or space aliens or something with a master plan.
	It's so evil.
	It's so sadistic.
	No, it's the devil.
	I mean, that's it.
	This galactic force of destruction that's animating people to do this.
	The answer to 1984 is 1776.
	You're listening to The Alex Jones Show.
	Ladies and gentlemen, we are live broadcasting worldwide from Austin, Texas.
	It is Wednesday, the 18th day of March, 2015.
	I'm your host, Alex Jones.
	The highest level whistleblower pretty much ever.
	Not just from the NSA, but from the federal government in the last hundred years, in my summation, is William Binney, who was one of the top guys at the National Security Agency, directed much of their technology systems
	He, of course, in the last decade, quietly tried to warn Congress and others within the system, got SWAT teamed, got attacked, you name it.
	He is here in Austin, Texas.
	He was here for Southwest.
	He agreed to stay an extra day to be in studio with us.
	We're going to be interviewing him.
	For some documentary reports we're putting together and live in studio in the third hour.
	In fact, maybe we should do a document cam or a studio cam shot for TV viewers and show folks William Benny in there in the control room watching the show right now.
	And again, he'll be in studio with us coming up in the third hour today.
	So I am extremely excited about that.
	There's William Benny right there.
	We can punch him up.
	Give him a little bit of a round of applause.
	If you are a radio listener, you can go to InfoWars.com forward slash show to see the free
	Video feeds right there to add another dimension to the radio broadcast.
	But this is a radio broadcast, first and foremost, probably 90% of our audience is terrestrial AM and FM radio.
	But we have a large audience as well, watching over the internet and some cable and TV systems around the United States.
	And it adds another dimension to it because our radio listeners can then go actually see
	What we're talking about here on air when we deploy reporters to Europe or to Asia or to Latin America or to right here in Austin, Texas, to be covering the different developments here at South by Southwest.
	We've already seen a protest against the rise of AI systems suppressing humanity.
	That story went national.
	We covered it over the weekend.
	And we're also, of course, covering the fact that it's not just the NSA illegally spying on people.
	It's Google.
	It's Microsoft.
	It's all the big companies have been caught doing it.
	And they don't get in trouble.
	And that's because it's part of a revolution.
	A overall culture of corruption to just change the way this planet operates.
	And I'm not so much worried
	Myself about artificial intelligence coming after us at this time.
	I'm worried about the fact that human intelligence is what is controlling and basically pulling the strings on the panopticon surveillance grid.
	They've got all these movies coming out Robo apocalypse.
	We're going to have the Rider on, I think, Friday, where it's basically an expansion of maximum overdrive, where the appliances and the cars start killing everybody.
	Well, I'm not really worried about that.
	I'm worried about the fact that the appliance, the cars, the smart meters, the cell phones, the Hertz Rent-A-Cars, the Samsung TVs admit that they're watching and listening to us.
	This is just a hidden and plain view.
	Revolution against privacy and the data being gathered can be used to manipulate mass markets and mass human movements.
	Because if you can surveil everything, you can also add stimulus and then control everything, including predicting the future to a great extent.
	And Google admits that that's its main mission, is to predict the future and be an AI system.
	So we're going to talk to William Binney about this in detail.
	We're going to put out a hashtag in the next few minutes.
	I haven't been given what that hashtag is yet.
	We were developing that right before the show started.
	So you can tweet your questions at RealAlexJones and so that we have those questions ahead of time before Mr. Benny joins us in studio.
	So tweet your questions at RealAlexJones and again we'll put a hashtag out on that site here in the next few minutes so everybody can do that.
	But there's the InfoWars.com crew.
	We can go to that wide shot there.
	I'm in here directing today and so folks can see our hard-working information warfare elves in there and quietly in the back.
	William Benning.
	Very, very exciting to have him here in the InfoWars News Studios.
	Kathreen Paul will be joining us.
	She's the head of OrganicConsumers.org, one of the largest organizations reporting on and doing studies on and organizing for the organic choices in this country.
	They've been set up for months to speak at South by Southwest and with Whole Foods.
	But Big Pharma and Big Agra did not want that so they've been banned.
	We'll talk about what our presentation was going to be and what their organization's presentation was going to be before they were banned and exactly who banned them.
	That story is up on InfoWars.com.
	Gene Giant kicks OCA off South by Southwest food panel discussion.
	And the new push by the FDA and the EPA is to not label anything and to even remove drug labels and vaccine labels so that we can't hold up an MMR vaccine label when they say it's safe and effective and show you where it says it can give you epilepsy, narcolepsy, cancer, where it says it could kill you, where it says it could cause pancreatitis and then diabetes.
	It actually says that and we showed that a lot the last few weeks.
	That will no longer be available.
	Under the new legislation.
	So there's a major push to shut down information and then to persecute people like William Benny who left the NSA back in 2001 when they started illegal spying against the American people in non-terror related operations.
	And he quietly worked through the system, but it just didn't matter.
	They still came after him, but he defeated that.
	Others have not.
	Many people are languishing, including journalists, in jail right now for telling the public things that they had a duty to tell us because they were illegal.
	But we've gone from them under George Bush in 2005 or so denying that they spied on anybody illegally to now just throwing it in our face.
	So where is this revolution against privacy going?
	We'll be discussing that.
	Okay, here's some of the other news up on InfoWars.com.
	You can't make this up.
	The story is from Raw Story, a Democratic Party-run organization.
	Leftist media claims if you support Second Amendment, you support rape.
	The headline actually says, more guns on campus means rapists can rape women more.
	No, guns on campus would mean women would shoot rapists.
	In areas where concealed carry goes in, rape and robbery and things like carjacking go down massively.
	In fact, just show people the FBI headlines and the LA Times headline.
	Gun crime drops, but perception is there's more.
	It's dropped by 52%.
	According to the Unified Crime Statistics of the Justice Department since 1992, rapes have dropped in every state where gun ownership has proliferated.
	Women carrying guns in fanny packs in Florida, they've had major articles there, has caused basically women being raped in parks to go down to almost zero.
	They say that, no, don't want Obamacare?
	You are racist.
	Don't want to turn your guns in?
	You want to rape women.
	As if criminals that are going to rape women wouldn't already have a gun illegally.
	Plus, most rapists physically beat women or hold them down or tie them up.
	They don't use guns to rape them.
	Just an incredibly bizarre article that we exposed.
	Leftist media claims if you support Second Amendment, you support rape.
	Again, we're not left or right, but it's the so-called
	Left, which bears no resemblance to Thomas Jefferson, what you call the father of liberalism in this country, who was pro-gun, these are totalitarians.
	Just like the Republican leadership, ladies and gentlemen, are going along with the FCC power grab of the internet.
	They're going along with the open borders.
	They're going along with shutting down our power plants without law.
	They're going along with putting our military under foreign jurisdiction.
	Incredible article we're going to be getting into.
	We're going to continue with really big financial news.
	China gaining Western allies as development bank partners.
	A blow to US efforts.
	Recent shift has pointed out that the rise of China and their aim to become a major part of the new global reserve currency and hence a major force in the new global order.
	And Dr. Paul Craig Roberts writes about it, former
	Deputy Head of the Treasury Department says cracks in Washington's empire, Washington's EU vassals might be finding their backbone.
	With plan to join China-led bank, Britain opens the door for others.
	That's out of the New York Times.
	So I got a bunch of articles on that.
	We're going to be breaking down today as well.
	Meanwhile, we see record cold temperatures on the East Coast and record dryness on areas of the West Coast.
	We'll break down and I'll give you my view on what's happening there.
	Meanwhile, when we return from this break, Pentagon loses track of $500 million in weapons equipment given to Yemen.
	Yeah, I bet they lost track.
	That stuff's being sent to Al-Qaeda and ISIS in Syria.
	Iran, Hezbollah have now been left off the terror threat listing.
	So they've now removed Hezbollah off the terror listing, but the Tea Party's basically listed.
	JW gets records that show Al-Qaeda terrorists may have been government's source.
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	You know, I'm moving quick here because there's so much news.
	I want to drill more into this, but I tell you, it's kind of hard to do the show with William Benny in there.
	Biggest government whistleblower pretty much of all time.
	And all these questions we're coming up with to discuss once he's in here in studio with us.
	It's really exciting what's happening.
	He's seeing a lot of people finally get it.
	A huge awakening taking place.
	He was just in Munich, Germany with Oliver Stone.
	Who is going to do an interview with Snowden for an upcoming huge film.
	He was just here at South by Southwest giving speeches and saw a huge response.
	So there's a lot of positive things happening.
	They tried to put him in prison.
	They tried to shut him down.
	But he's here taking action and that is so exciting.
	That's the best part about having this job is that I get to be around such amazing people, such amazing heroes.
	You know, the average person would get around Kobe Bryant, or LeBron James, or Brett Favre, or somebody, and start shaking in their shoes.
	I could care less.
	Great, you can throw a basketball on a hoop, you can play football, wonderful.
	But people that face prison, people that go through persecution, people that give up, you know, directorships, a whole section of the NSA to tell the truth, and then the system tries to suppress them, and tries to keep them from the public view, and then the system fails.
	That is just incredibly, incredibly exciting on so many fronts.
	And so we're here today to shoot a little mini documentary with Mr. Benny, and then we're gonna have him live in studio with us.
	But before we go any further, let me just say that I'm also going to be opening the phones up in the next segment specifically
	On this piece of news, Pentagon loses track, I mentioned this in the last segment, of 500 million in weapons equipment given to Yemen.
	The Washington Post reports.
	It's the same story over and over again.
	Oh, we lost track in Iraq.
	Oh, we lost track in Saudi Arabia.
	Oh, we lost track in Qatar.
	Oh, we lost track in Yemen.
	Oh, we lost track.
	Oh, Turkey's giving artillery support to this Free Syrian Army, which is really Al-Qaeda and ISIS.
	Oh, but now we're buddies with Assad and want to defeat them and are buddies with Iran and that leads us to the next story.
	Iran and Hezbollah.
	This is out of RT.
	It's posted on Infowars.com.
	Iran and Hezbollah.
	Hezbollah is their militia, worldwide fighting force.
	Iran.
	Hezbollah left us off U.S.
	terror threat listing.
	So Iran and Hezbollah have been left off U.S.
	terror threat listing.
	Now listen, I don't want war with Iran.
	I don't support some of those moves to do that.
	But at the same time, if you're going to list conservative libertarian groups as extremists and with terrorists, if you're going to train the Pentagon to take on land rights activists, if you set up Homeland Security to supposedly deal with Hezbollah and Hamas, who do target civilians,
	You could argue that they are in the terrorist class, but to remove the big enchilada, Hezbollah from the list, shows just how bizarre all of this has really gotten.
	But don't worry, there are FBI task forces nationwide harassing gun shows with the ATF, trying to find out if an old guy goes and sells some of his guns to raise money.
	I see these cases all the time.
	It's almost always some 75, 80 year old guy.
	His wife's died in one case we covered.
	He's going bankrupt.
	He's got to have surgery.
	He goes in to sell eight, nine guns he's had for decades.
	He's not a federal firearms dealer.
	It's legal for him to sell them because he's not a dealer.
	He's just getting rid of personal guns.
	And they arrest him.
	They railroad him.
	They indict him and have a federal kangaroo jury send him to prison and they die in prison.
	But Hezbollah is not terrorist.
	And, oh, we can come up missing $500 million in weapons in Yemen.
	And I've seen this type of story, no exaggeration, 500 times or more.
	This is out of Judicial Watch.
	Judicial Watch gets records that show al-Qaeda terrorists may have been government source.
	Judicial Watch has obtained records of the Florida Department of Law Enforcement that indicate Al Qaeda terrorists who helped plan several U.S.
	attacks, including plots to blow up Oprah Winfrey's studios and detonate nuclear devices in multiple U.S.
	cities, was a confidential source and informant for the government.
	Well, of course, most of these guys are, and probably never planned any of this, and they just burned him.
	I mean, do you really believe this guy had nukes?
	It's come out in the New York Times that almost every terror attack that they've cooked up has been with a mentally ill person or some patsy who was an informant, who they say, yeah, take the bomb over here, and then they set them up.
	I'm not saying there aren't radical Islamicist or terrorists.
	Oh, there are.
	And they're under the employ of the West.
	The West works with them to destabilize, and they use their threat as a way to take liberties and promote illegal spying.
	But when it comes to people they bust, they don't throw away good terrorists they could be using.
	They only bust patsies and chumps and fools.
	So listen, if you're an Arab American or Muslim American or Brit or whatever, I've seen this literally hundreds of times.
	If you get approached to be part of a drill,
	of Muslims bombing something, do not be part of it, because believe me, you're going to end up in a supermax prison.
	So don't be stupid.
	All right, we'll be right back, ladies and gentlemen.
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	If you are receiving this transmission live from Austin, Texas, broadcasting worldwide, you are the resistance.
	It's Alex Jones.
	One last breath before wind blows.
	Better raise your ears.
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	Lock up your wives and children now.
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	Always loved to play this song written by Dave Mustaine of Megadeth and of course played by Metallica, The Four Horsemen.
	Lock up your wife and children now, it's time to wheel the blade.
	But we live in the 21st century where 90 plus percent of warfare is information warfare.
	And the sword that wields the greatest strength is the truth.
	In an empire of lies, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
	That is Ron Paul's paraphrase of George Orwell.
	In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
	And again, William Benny, biggest whistleblower in modern history, not just biggest NSA whistleblower, is here.
	And he was in the control room, a great gentleman, but I had him move to the conference room because it was so distracting to me to look at the monitor and see William Benny in there, plus the crew.
	I mean, this is like having a movie star here for us.
	You know, we've had a lot of movie stars on the show.
	They're great people.
	A lot of them are patriots we've had on, using their celebrity to expose tyranny.
	But I'm a lot more excited about William Benny being here than some of the top celebrity stars I've gotten to know over the years.
	Because this guy, they tried to put him in prison.
	They tried to ruin his life.
	He basically resigned because they wouldn't stop illegal spying.
	He tried for a decade in the system to get them to stop it.
	And then they came after him when he was doing it inside the system.
	So this is a tyranny.
	And if William Binney can be destroyed, we can all be destroyed.
	But if he can be vindicated, which he has been, and not be stopped from getting his message out, it is a huge Battle of Trenton-level victory.
	When we got the UN documents five years ago that the carbon tax was a plan to shut down the third world and the first world and only let select corporations operate, we got the secret treaty and it became national news.
	We had Lord Moncton on.
	That was a huge, critical, Death Star destroying event.
	Well, people like William Binney and Snowden going public is another potential Death Star event, to use a Star Wars allegory, where you blow up a major criminal operation and degrade and frustrate criminal forces in government and corporations that want to use ubiquitous spying
	To dominate markets but also protect themselves from criminal prosecution to be aware of what other areas and other agencies are doing.
	We've now learned that the Parliament and the Congress and the Senate and the President and they're all spying on each other.
	It's a panopticonic big brother arms race that we're in the middle of right now that's being deployed against the people and it's wrong.
	So again, I go off into that subject because it's so important.
	And I just read to you three different mainstream news articles where our government and other groups are funding and protecting known terrorists from Al Qaeda, to the Iranian Hezbollah, to other organizations.
	Why are they doing it?
	All the NSA spying, all the illegal garbage.
	We still had 9-11.
	In fact, we learned the NSA was actually tracking them legally in that case, because they were foreigners, and that nothing was done with it.
	The FBI knew and was ordered to stand down.
	I've interviewed Colonel Schaefer and others.
	Lieutenant Colonel Schaefer, who was there and watched the Tamina case, saw the same stuff that C-Bell Edmonds, another FBI translator, whistleblowing on NSA information,
	Where our government was in command at higher levels, basically, of Al-Qaeda, and protecting them, and giving them arms, and laundering money.
	Everything she first broke her gag order on this show five, six years ago, and on other shows, that she was attacked for, is now passé!
	So now we've reached that Rubicon moment where it's out in the open, what do we do?
	I'm gonna ask William Binney about this coming up in the third hour.
	What is this paradox like to have them years ago deny this was happening when he knew good and well it was, he was there at the highest level seeing it, and then to now have them go, okay, we're doing it, but we're going to reform it by legalizing it.
	We're going to retroactively go back and say it's okay that we committed these crimes.
	I mean, Obama yesterday
	Put out a directive, not a law, the President can't make laws, saying we're now exempt from all FOIA requests, period.
	Really, that's the National Security Act of 47, and they dovetailed with it the Open Records Act, so that if you're going to have secret stuff, it's got to be kept on record to be released later, so that people don't commit crimes now, thinking they've got a blank check.
	Well, we've now entered that sector.
	They want to take the drug labels off.
	They want to take the food labels off.
	They want to shut down people's speech at South by Southwest on GMO or NSA.
	They're moving on every front to not let us have the information.
	And now the FCC has power grabbed the internet from the outside Comcast threat of wanting to take over the web.
	Oh, the FCC will come in and save it.
	When they've said before they want to control it and now FCC Chairman concedes future internet tax is possible after all, that's a CNS news.
	So just because one plan's bad by Comcast and others, does it mean the solution to that plan is good?
	Classic bait and switch.
	I want to hit this financial news and then go to your calls.
	Here's the toll-free number on this worldwide Wednesday edition.
	800-259-9231.
	Here's the only catch.
	First-time callers today.
	It'll be that for William Binney as well.
	Give you a chance to get involved.
	And it's on one of the subjects I just raised here.
	I've raised a lot of subjects.
	I want you to chime in on criminal elements of the government financing, protecting terrorists to menace us into submission.
	FCC documents now out, talks about taxing authority, applying the same powers they've done to broadcast radio and TV to all telecoms.
	I mean, this is a nightmare.
	We're also going to get into some of the other power grabs that are taking place.
	But before we do that,
	Again, the number for first-time callers is 800-259-9231, and we will get you up and on the air on this live Wednesday edition, 800-259-9231.
	I'm going to get Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, former chief editor of the Wall Street Journal, father of Reaganomics, on probably tomorrow, the next day, maybe Sunday.
	We can't get him the next two days on the Sunday broadcast, 4 to 6 p.m.
	China gaining western allies as development bank partners.
	A blow to US efforts.
	And so China's created this new global development bank.
	And again, I'm not saying the Communist Chinese are laudable or great people, their leadership, but it is a separate power group to Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan that control the central banks of Europe and the United States, the private Federal Reserve.
	So it is competition of a sort.
	And we've seen the Rockefellers and others investing tens of billions the last year in this Chinese investment-run bank.
	Kind of a challenge to the IMF or World Bank.
	So that shows a creeping towards the exits, a hedging of the bets while Western powers accelerate global currency devaluations and a currency devaluation war.
	And yes, the world
	Reserve currency is still the dollar, but when it goes belly up, it will have seismic effects here.
	We're already seeing deflation in some areas because of recessionary and depressionary elements in select areas of the economy, but it's unbalanced.
	Some people are in a depression, others are in a recession, others are in high cotton.
	In this managed, stage-managed economy, which Rolling Stone two years ago had the headline, everything is rigged.
	Interest rates, the globalists get free money, the public gets it at, you know, 5, 6, 7, 8 percent.
	I mean, you're told it's down there at near zero, but that's not what the general public gets.
	I've got perfect credit, went and checked about getting some credit last week.
	I mean, near perfect credit, we're like 5 percent.
	People are like, wow, that sounds great.
	No, it's not.
	The banks get it at zero.
	So I should have access to something at one or two percent.
	Just the right for them to make a profit for processing.
	But that's the type of stuff that's going on.
	And it's very discriminatory and the world sees this and they're scared.
	So they're not moving away from dollar hegemon because they want to bring down the United States.
	It's like cancer that's in your heart or something.
	You cut it out, you die.
	Nobody really wants the U.S.
	to go under, globally, because if it does, it'll cause a worldwide depression of biblical proportions.
	There aren't any economists that disagree with that.
	They're now using globalization and that we're all interconnected as a way to abuse everyone and make everyone accept dollar devaluation.
	So we're seeing recession and depression in some costs, but in a lot of costs, restaurants, a lot of other commodities, you name it, education, I mean just hundreds of other areas, we're seeing major inflation.
	Major, major, major!
	I mean, just last year, for St.
	Patty's Day, at the same store, I bought a package of the same organic corned beef for, I think it was $9, memory serves.
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	Excellent corned beef, my mouth's watering.
	It was $19 and change, basically double what it was 12 months ago.
	Now, that isn't inflation.
	I don't know what is.
	Here's another headline.
	Cracks in Washington's empire.
	Washington's EU vassals might be finding their backbone.
	England, Germany, France, and Italy have all invested
	With Japan, Switzerland, Luxembourg, South Korea, and others, Australia, you name it, in the new Chinese-led Asian Investment Bank.
	Neither Republicans nor Democrats are even making this an issue.
	China gaining Western allies as development bank partners, a blow to U.S.
	efforts.
	So, with plan to join Chinese-led bank, Britain opens door for others.
	That's New York Times.
	That's the kind of stuff that's important.
	Another hero, nothing compared to William Binney, who brought out a lot of stuff that actually threatened the entire system, but he's won two Nobel Prizes, and that's, of course, Joseph Stiglitz.
	And he was the head economist at the World Bank and he's come out and said basically everything I've said.
	He's been on the show five or six times over the years.
	So it's not just Alex Jones up here waving his arms around saying this.
	This is a fact.
	This is going on and worldwide governments aren't trying to reform this or stabilize things.
	They think totalitarianism
	is going to somehow at the barrel of a gun and the barrel of Big Brother surveillance glue all this tyranny and this inequity together.
	Meanwhile, they're involved in a bunch of balkanization, racial balkanization, hyping up racial differences, cultural differences, in the name of bringing unity, but we know it's bringing division, and it's come out in government documents we've covered, that the plan is to divide the people against each other, so the establishment, the crony capitalists, who are not free market, can loot the living daylights out of us.
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	Alright, I'm going to cut off the legendary Johnny Cash to go to your calls, but I was just back there during the three-minute break while they're interviewing William Binney for a documentary that I'm making.
	Documentary piece.
	And it just hit me.
	Praise God.
	I get to know Ron Paul, Rand Paul, I get to know William Binney, Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, the former
	Head of Reagan's economic operation, he's an icon of economists, and I was just, it was popping in my head the rush of hundreds and hundreds of patriots that are fighting the New World Order that I know, who are extremely prominent and are prominent, and the millions of you out there fighting tyranny, we're all just as important, and I was thinking how many good men and women there are.
	And how people are rising up and fighting the tyrants.
	They just don't let the general public know that because other people would know we're starting to win.
	And what matters is in the end we win the hearts and minds.
	Because we're going to go through some hell, folks.
	What's important is in the end the New World Order falls.
	And we're building the opposition that was a seed, it is now a grove.
	And we can take those seeds and plant those and literally repopulate the planet with liberty.
	To use that allegory.
	It's exponential.
	We've gone way past the mustard seed point, to the huge mustard tree, to now mustard seeds planted all over the world.
	I mean, the globalists are in trouble.
	They're scared.
	And they should be.
	Because their plan is so evil, so anti-human.
	And once humanity wakes up to something, change is fast.
	So, new world order?
	The battle is joined.
	And I'm humbled to be in the company, continually, of such amazing people.
	Like the lady we have coming up in the next hour.
	Let's go to Jerry in New Jersey, then Jackie, Don, Hugh, and Adam.
	Jerry, you're on the air.
	Alex, my brother, God bless you and thank you for all that you do.
	Please don't.
	Couldn't help myself.
	Total agreement with the full onslaught of tyranny that's coming in all the different angles and I do tell people, I do, I start up conversations with total strangers and I wanted to ask you about where I really hit the wall and argumentatively as a tactic what
	You do when you hit this.
	I think I can convince people of what's being done.
	Where I hit the wall with people is intention.
	You get Republicans in particular because it's their party that's supposed to actually have some standards.
	I don't think the Democrats have any at all.
	Other than, you know, pure communism.
	But it gets to where they say, how can these Republicans be so gutless and so stupid?
	And I try to say, no, it's not stupid.
	It's not gutless.
	Gutless means they have good intentions, but don't have the guts to actually follow through.
	I mean, here's how it works.
	In the last 50 years or so, they put a committee system in.
	Here's how it works.
	They always had committees, but they've got it where it's a leadership position where you get power the longer you're in.
	And so all they've got to do is control maybe two dozen Republicans in the House and Senate total over those key committees and chairmanships, and then it's a dictatorship.
	And so no matter what the Republican grassroots does that are pretty good people on average, you can never change it because John Boehner blocks it all.
	And so, if you can't convince them, then you can't convince them of the sun coming up in the morning, because it's all right there happening in front of their eyeballs every single day.
	So that's how they're doing that.
	That's how they're getting that job done, Jerry, is that they have successfully taken the senators away from the states.
	I mean, until 1913, senators were elected by the legislatures.
	So they were creatures of the state.
	Well, now they're their own imperial gods.
	Up there on Capitol Hill, so that's a big problem.
	Get the senators back to the states.
	Do things like that and you'll turn the corner.
	Anything else, Jerry?
	Yeah, no, that's an excellent point.
	I guess I'm actually heading for a town hall tonight with a state representative.
	Well, great job, brother.
	Keep it up.
	Talk to them.
	Tell them that we're going to lose everything if they don't get going.
	People are looking for leadership.
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	I will get to Hugh, Adam, Jackie, Don, Mariah, everybody.
	Our next guest is just joining us for about 20 minutes, so those I don't get to now, I'll get to after that.
	We've got major censorship by the globalists trying to shut down all sorts of information getting out.
	Former top NSA leader, William Benny, will be joining us in studio in the third hour today.
	Hugh in Ohio, you're on the air, go ahead.
	Hi Alex, Hugh Collins from Toledo, Ohio.
	I have a question for you.
	Rodney Stitch is one of my heroes.
	I've never heard you mention him.
	My question is, what do you think of his work, and why hasn't he been more influential?
	Okay, I gotta be honest with you.
	I'm having one of those moments.
	I've heard the name a lot over the years.
	I think I know who he is, but I can't remember.
	I'm getting old.
	I'm not as sharp as I used to be when it comes to memory.
	Who is Rodney Stitch?
	Well, he started as an FAA inspector, and he wrote the book, Unfriendly Skies, and he... All about chemtrails?
	Yeah.
	You know, I think he might have been on my show or the news years ago, but I do want to get him on.
	So, stuff just falls through the cracks.
	Great point.
	You should do show tips.
	Tell us who you want to hear on the show.
	Well, he would be great, and if you can get him there, he's a pretty old guy now.
	He's written a lot of books.
	One is called Defrauding America, and there's another one called Drugging America.
	His output is voluminous.
	Yeah, I think he's been on the show now that you say it.
	It would be great if you could get him.
	You bet.
	What else you calling about, brother?
	That's really all I have right now, Alex.
	I'm a big fan of your show.
	Secret 12 is great.
	God bless you, brother.
	Appreciate you calling.
	That's a great idea.
	Yeah, ShowTipsAtInfoWars.com.
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	Don in Oklahoma, thanks for calling.
	You're on the air.
	Don on Oklahoma, Alex, it's my opinion, what I should be doing is concentrating on my county, constitutional sheriffs, new councilmen, commissioners, and so forth.
	My question to the guest is, what he might could share or help me look for on a county level?
	That's my question.
	Thank you.
	That's a great question.
	I'll ask William Binning that when you come up later, or when he comes up later on the broadcast, when your question comes up.
	I think I should write that down.
	What do you look for for government spying on the local level?
	Well, you look for cell towers that are smaller.
	In my experience, that are not connected to the telephone company, those will be basically stingray platforms to steal your data.
	They're totally illegal.
	The police and feds denied them for years.
	We were covering a decade ago.
	Now it's mainstream news.
	Again, they got caught lying to us.
	The threat fusion centers give police these tools and teach them how to engage in illegal activity.
	And they get the cops in and tell them it's all legal and see who will go along with it, who is influenceable, who can be federalized, who can be given an extra paycheck as an auxiliary fed, as a deputy fed.
	And that's the federalization that's going on right now.
	And that's why we're battling that as hard as we can.
	And Adam, and Matt, and Mariah, and many others.
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	He's the T-Rex of political talk.
	Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
	Katharine Paul heads up Organic Consumers, a major nationwide organization that checks organic claims, that monitors government, federal and state, and global activities.
	She and others from her organization have been sent for months to speak at a food conference, the Future of Food and Food Safety, that Whole Foods was involved with.
	It's South by Southwest, one of the biggest conferences in the world, if not the biggest now.
	It's just huge.
	Hundreds of thousands show up.
	They were banned.
	And when she joins us, I want to do a presentation for listeners to put it in context.
	Gene Giant kicks OCA off South by Southwest food panel discussion.
	Every time they try to censor us, we're just going to double down.
	I want you guys to print me, please.
	Coke spends millions to teach people that sugar is good for you.
	That was out a few days ago.
	I want the article out of the Washington Post, please, in my folder.
	I forgot to tell you, sorry.
	We just do everything here on air.
	Total transparency.
	Direct-to-show everything.
	That's why it's a popular broadcast.
	It's teleprompter-free.
	I want that Washington Post from Monday, please.
	Where they said that the Feds are moving to not have labels on drugs and vaccines.
	There is a move because you're waking up, we're waking up, we're winning to shut everything down.
	And that ties in with FCC Chairman concedes, there's a video on Infowars.com from CNS News, FCC Chairman concedes future internet tax is possible after all.
	Now that we've got the actual regulations, not law.
	We don't get law from Congress now, we get it from Obama appointees.
	Even though most of the commission didn't like it, you know, he's the boss, he's the little dictator.
	And so, they talk about taxing to fund enforcement.
	And they said they're going to follow the model that they've used with the FCC on broadcast AM, FM, UHF, VHF television.
	Everybody better be grabbing their backside and protecting it because here comes the FCC.
	It'll take a few years and they'll have Congress debate it and they'll change some of it.
	It'll be on a big lobbying chopping block fighting over the future of everything and the internet, but it's here.
	So I hope all you snot-nosed Soros idiots that ran around bludgeoning me on the head and attacking me in publications and national TV saying I'm against net neutrality, I'm against internet freedom, I hope you're pleased with what happens.
	I hope you're happy with taxing and regulating the internet because here it comes.
	I hope you're really proud of yourselves.
	You're totalitarians.
	It is so sad.
	George Soros, $196 million.
	To fake leftist organizations in the last year to run around saying protect the internet, protect the internet from Comcast.
	Comcast now has a federal agency that it's manipulated in the past to let them consolidate control of the other bigs.
	Oh, please don't throw me in the briar patch, Comcast said.
	Oh, please don't pass this net neutrality.
	See, Comcast is against it.
	That's how they pass the Federal Reserve.
	That's come out in mainstream news decades ago.
	Congressional hearings.
	The big bank associations got together, said, oh, we don't want a Federal Reserve to rein us in.
	Don't do it.
	When they are the private shareholders.
	Oh, don't do it.
	Please don't.
	Reverse psychology works very well on childlike brains.
	So that's coming up.
	We've got unprecedented Starbucks.
	Every time you go to Starbucks, I will not go to Starbucks.
	I'm officially boycotting Starbucks for their anti-gun stance and everything else.
	They'll chat up about, you know, you've got white privilege if you're white or if you're black.
	I'm sorry about your oppression.
	This is turning everything into a giant re-education camp, a giant
	Sensitivity Training System.
	Starbucks employees should discuss race relations with customers.
	Infowars.com.
	That dovetails with White Privilege Conference Workshop, pushes grade school children age 5 a lesson about genderqueer, this is quote, transgender folks, lecturing elementary school age children about gay, lesbian and transgender issues and about gender fluid and how to share your gender fluids.
	I can't, again, make this up.
	I'm going to be covering that coming up some of the next hour.
	And the EPA tyranny is a record cold as ice jams, you know, wreck apartment buildings and more.
	Backyard burger and wiener roast targeted by EPA has the potential for global application.
	The UN looks to us for their global tyranny.
	EPA wants to monitor how long hotel guests spend in the shower.
	That's just some of what's coming up.
	And again, I just mentioned this, White House exempts itself from FOIA requests.
	See, everything's going secret.
	And pretty soon, I'll have to have old MMR shot if this legislation passes.
	They say they may just do it regulatory.
	Who needs legislation anymore?
	Where MMR will not have an insert or tell you the adverse reactions or any other drug.
	They'll have drug ads now, not telling you, where they talk for 30 seconds how great it is, and then 30 seconds how it'll kill you, deader than a hammer, or make you have a heart attack, or go crazy, or murder your kids, or... I mean, you hear all those ads.
	Not anymore if they have their way.
	I mean, they're making a totalitarian move because confidence in them is collapsing.
	You don't have to believe Alex Jones.
	Congress has a 7-9% approval rating depending on which national poll.
	This is really good news because this isn't our government at the highest levels.
	Alright, let's go to your phone calls.
	Let's talk to Adam in California, or California as the gubernator would say.
	You're on the air, Adam.
	Welcome.
	Hi, Alex.
	I'm your auxiliary reporter that did the Comedy Central bit of them attacking your website.
	Yeah, you caught them in the subliminal message.
	Good job.
	What's your name?
	Adam.
	Well, good job, brother.
	Yeah.
	Have you seen the epic rap battle where you rap against Ray Kurzweil?
	We have seen that.
	I never aired it.
	There's just so much of this stuff.
	I mean, I thought that was actually a fairer piece.
	What did you think?
	It was.
	They gave you a lot of respect.
	I mean, just the fact that you're debating against a head of DARPA and one of the smartest inventors and geniuses of our generation gives you respect right there.
	And you said a lot of good stuff in it.
	Well, they actually pretty much took my quotes and they had an actor engage in them.
	We should play that on air.
	That came out a while back, a few months ago.
	But listen, the only reason I'm on a global platform, actually RT aired that, but it came out of, I think,
	The U.S.
	first, but they aired it.
	The reason that's happening is scientists and government people hear me, insiders hear me, and they know, wow, that guy actually knows what he's talking about.
	I'm not bragging, but William Binney's been on the show many times, and he goes, wow, you really know about all the angles of this.
	Other people don't understand this.
	Even people he worked with didn't get it, because they all just want to do their little job and go play golf.
	No, I really want to know how all this works.
	But it shows the power of the individual
	That now in publications and in major TV shows, I'm seen as the opposition.
	Well, it's only because I was willing to fight.
	And that's a testament to all of you.
	There are people more articulate, smarter than I.
	Who need to take action.
	But even if you're not more articulate than I or don't have as much energy as I, write a book, write a newsletter, talk to your police chief, visit your sheriff, put my films in the library.
	If everybody starts doing a little bit, many hands make light work and we can defeat the globalists.
	Go ahead.
	I've been listening to you for eight years through the app.
	I haven't missed an episode.
	I've purchased a lot of your products.
	They're all great.
	And you motivated me to make a movie, and I appreciate you plugging my movie, the Conspiracy Theory documentary, when you aired the Comedy Central bit.
	That was really nice of you.
	Brother!
	I hope that we can...
	I think?
	That's what real civilization is all about.
	And so, of course, if you're doing auxiliary reporting, and everybody can be an InfoWars reporter, you just say you are unofficial, because then we could have set-up folks say they work for us and do bad things in our name.
	We have to clearly expose those false flags.
	That's been tried before.
	If people do legitimate, real reporting, we'll link to it.
	We'll promote it.
	And then we'll promote, when we can, whatever separately you're doing.
	Because we're all going to hang together or hang separate, to quote Benjamin Franklin, my friend.
	I mean, this is a war.
	I'm looking for soldiers in the Infowar.
	I'm looking to win.
	And the video you produced was Comedy Central Show Chides Info Wars with Clone website.
	Segment features main character browsing conspiracy wars site with crazy headline using our header.
	Michael Jackson in Richard Branson's space condo was the headline.
	Well, God bless you.
	Anything else, Adam?
	A lot of people made fun of me.
	My friend made fun of me saying, oh, you're just making something out of nothing.
	But then the very next week with the David Cross movie, I showed that to him, too.
	And then I show him the Bill O'Reilly and the Rachel Maddow, and they finally start to get it.
	I'm trying to put together all the clips to make a documentary about that also.
	But you and Joyce Riley mentioned the lawyer at the Boston bombing trial, how she's connected to the Mosawi trial and the Unabomber.
	They did release video of the younger brother running away from the scene, and you can clearly see he has no backpack.
	So, I've been with you the whole way with the Boston bombing.
	Totally staged.
	The older brother was CIA on record, and they just burned their two guys.
	The younger brothers probably did.
	And I've talked to the family.
	They've been about to come on, and they get death-threatened.
	Okay?
	I mean, let me tell you.
	I mean, that Boston bombing was a $3 bill.
	Pictures of him since the boat.
	And the friend in the courtroom on the first day said that it didn't sound like him, and basically he said it wasn't him.
	They cut his throat out.
	He had not been shot in the throat.
	They cut his larynx out, basically, to shut him up.
	They shot the boat full of hundreds of holes and didn't kill him.
	They're totally framing him.
	He's got a lawyer saying he says he's guilty.
	I mean, this is sick.
	Appreciate your call.
	God bless you, Adam.
	Adam!
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	Federal agents, we are armed!
	The big theme I see emerging, just tracking the news the last few months, is massive attacks on free speech, but not just the whistleblowers or insiders exposing crime, but independent media itself, the internet that it's main platform launch point, it's ether, it's format, but also the data itself.
	And that's coming up in the next segment.
	This affects everybody big time.
	It's the surest sign of accelerating despotism and a totalitarian atmosphere.
	But that's happening because they pushed a totalitarian takeover.
	People woke up.
	The old American instincts kicked in.
	The old Western instincts kicked in.
	Renaissance started to kick in and now they're trying to accelerate and triple down and it is like adding nitrous oxide to an internal combustion engine.
	It is doing nothing but accelerating liberty.
	That said though, the car can fly off the road and hurt everybody.
	This is a very dangerous time.
	That's why we de-escalate with the police.
	We de-escalate with the system.
	Because even though they're doing a lot of bad things, they don't know they work for the New World Order.
	They're starting to figure it out, starting to get the big picture.
	They're not the enemy.
	I'll say it again.
	I found being around feds, being around local police, being around military, being around NSA people, being around, you name it, from top retired generals, recently retired, to top NSA people, right down to police chiefs around the country and sheriffs.
	They are the most awake group.
	They're either evil and serving the system, or they're good and awake and don't know what to do and say, I wish the people would wake up and support us!
	The globalists know if we start getting together with local government and good people in the federal government, we can form a coalition that's legitimate, that's strong, with people like William Binney and Ron Paul and others, and we can legitimately have reform.
	The globalists don't want that.
	They want a race war.
	They want division.
	They want balkanization ahead of that, and that's why they're pulling out the stops.
	I mean, you know the new Black Panther Party all over the country.
	Marching around saying kill police, shoot police, oink oink, bang bang, kill a pig here in Austin just two days ago.
	We played the video yesterday.
	You know if a libertarian group, not that we'd ever even do that or want to do that, you know if a conservative group did that, we'd be arrested.
	You know that's terrorist threat.
	You know that's organization to do murder.
	That's planning, in my view, legally, capital murder.
	To march around saying, we want to kill 20 cops, we want to shoot them, we want to take them out, armed, in an organized group.
	I mean, I'll tell you right now, if 20 people are marching towards me with guns, saying we want to kill Alex Jones, I legally and lawfully have the right to get in a stance on the ground and open fire.
	Now, what I'd actually do is just try to get out of there.
	I'm not looking for trouble, but, you know, this is just a joke, ladies and gentlemen.
	This is all federally financed.
	These are useful idiots.
	Let's go to another call.
	Maria, in California, you're on the air.
	Go ahead.
	Hi there, Alex.
	I'm so happy to talk with you today.
	Thank you.
	You know, when I first started listening to you, I used to love to listen to you because of your rants that you would do and your little mimicking voices and stuff used to really make me smile.
	Even though a lot of bad things were going on, at least I could hear you and I could feel what you were going through at the same time.
	I lost contact with you about this time last year and then regained contact again the end of this year and tried to get some information through to you.
	Well, you're on the air.
	Get the info out.
	I mean, one of the biggest frustrations for listeners is they can't get us stuff.
	Sometimes they do, sometimes we don't cover it, because we're like a one-legged man in a butt-kicking contest around here.
	So, if you can't get it through to us, put it out on YouTube.
	Put it out on Facebook.
	Use enemy platforms to jam the system.
	Go ahead.
	Well, it's hard to do that, but okay, sure.
	But what I wanted to talk about is, you know, a lot of this information, there's a lot of information out there and it's a lot of things that now it just seems like you're just bombarded with all kinds of information.
	But what I want to talk about is what's going on where I'm living.
	In my city, I live in a military type area where they do a lot of weapons testing and program testing and things like that here.
	And a lot of what's going on in a world
	Why is that?
	Yeah, what they're doing is they're merging the military with the local threat fusion centers and the police and everything under federalized control with centralized codes, centralized dispatch, and then that's being centralized globally all into one huge computer system to track and control everything.
	It is not a good situation.
	Plus, GPS is based on satellites.
	What if there's a big solar flare?
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	The Alex Jones Show.
	Because there is a war on for your mind.
	Well, he's definitely a bigger whistleblower than Daniel Ellsberg.
	And I've had Daniel Ellsberg on the broadcast, the Pentagon Papers.
	He's certainly much higher level.
	Than Snowden.
	And he's just been in Germany making a film with Oliver Stone about the NSA.
	William Binney was number three at the NSA, depending on which news article you read.
	He directed their technological development systems, so he actually knows the entire grid and infrastructure.
	And he saw
	criminal spine violated the law in 2001.
	He told Congress quietly, so the SWAT team raided him.
	He followed the law, and here he is 15 years later exposing the system.
	And he will be joining us in about 35 minutes from now in studio.
	He's here with us in Austin, Texas, William Benning.
	And the reason I mention that is our next guest, Catherine Paul, Associate Director of Organic Consumers Association, OrganicConsumers.org, probably the leading group watchdog of other organic certifiers and writing articles about what's happening at state level, federal level, and international level.
	Just a cornucopia, pun intended, of vital information for people that don't want to eat pesticide-laden food, don't want to eat GMO.
	I want to know what true organic food is.
	Part of this revolution that's beginning to win.
	With McDonald's and all these big companies saying, no more bovine growth hormone.
	We're going to start phasing out the pesticides.
	We're going to... We're seeing some big victories here.
	But the establishment is striking back by going and creating fake PR organizations that come out and go, oh, sugar and high fructose is good.
	Oh, there are good GMOs.
	And I've got a stack of news articles breaking this down.
	But they were banned, even though they set it up months ago, from being part of this big Whole Foods sponsored event, headlined, Gene Giants Kick OCA Off South by Southwest Food Panel Discussion.
	And I wanted to just show TV viewers, and read this for radio listeners, just the news the last three days.
	From Monday to today, just a few articles I grabbed out of the stack here.
	sets new record for denying censoring government files.
	U.S.
	President says that it's totalitarian.
	A.P.
	What did William Binney tell The Guardian a few months ago?
	He said it is a total totalitarian takeover.
	Close quote.
	What does A.P.
	now say?
	It is a totalitarian takeover.
	That's A.P.
	It isn't Alex Jones anymore using words like that.
	You look out your window and your neighbor's house has fire shooting out of the windows.
	It's on fire.
	That's an alarmist statement.
	It's on fire.
	Oh, that guy's alarmist.
	He's upset.
	Well, people weren't paying attention.
	What's wrong with him?
	Of course I was yelling and screaming.
	Foreign corporations have hijacked the country.
	They own both parties.
	We're in trouble.
	Just one headline.
	Here's another one.
	FOI, FOIA, Access of Information, scoring 2015.
	State Department gets an F. Here's another headline.
	White House exempts itself from FOIA requests.
	Totally.
	As of Tuesday, the Office of Administration will no longer have to heed FOIA requests.
	According to RT, they just say they don't have to.
	That violates the Open Records Act, National Security Act.
	That's a felony.
	They're just announcing it, though.
	Remember when Cheney said he was above the law and that the Vice President was more important than the President?
	Remember Nixon saying it's not illegal?
	Heck, can we find that clip when Nixon said, it's not illegal when the President does it.
	It's okay when the President does it.
	So continuing, here's another article.
	FDA proposes to let drug companies undermine official safety warnings.
	Look at that headline right there.
	So they want to just get rid of even letting you know what they admittedly, what these drugs can do to you.
	Here's another one.
	Coca-Cola caught paying health leaders to say soda is healthy snack.
	Yeah, this is how they operate.
	I'm going to stop right there and go to Katharine Paul, whose organization has been banned from South by Southwest, and we even know who said ban it and who they follow their orders from.
	Folks need to understand that the people that are running South by Southwest are extreme totalitarians and have been messing with me for 20 years, trying to jack with this radio show and TV show, so they're really bad guys.
	And I've been telling you this for a long time, it's becoming more and more evident.
	Catherine, I wanted to do five, six minutes of background.
	So it's not just you that this is happening to.
	They had the police ticket us for using a sound device downtown, warning about GMOs.
	My pleasure.
	Thank you for having me on.
	Well, none of what you say really surprises me, and we've seen this, you know, my focus has been for the past few years on the biotech industry corporations and the, we call them the junk food manufacturers, and they're not only, you know, propaganda programs and the millions of dollars that they spend to sort of spin the truth,
	But also their obvious manipulation of the federal government from the SBA right down to state and local politicians.
	So, what happened with us, as you say, is I, one of the organizers of a panel, a session there at South by Southwest, contacted me, asked me if I'd be available to participate on a panel.
	With Kathleen Enright, the Executive VP of the Biotech Industry Organization.
	And I said, sure, I would be happy to sit there and have a discussion with her.
	But when there was no follow-up with confirmation, and I finally, you know, reached out and said, what's up?
	I was told, well, Kathleen Enright had said we were not allowed to be on the panel.
	So they basically uninvited me.
	So the biotech industry is literally running the so-called panel on safe and healthy food and the future of food here in the trendy so-called liberal city of Austin where Whole Foods is based.
	Whole Foods is a sponsor heavily involved and so what we have is a Don King boxing match, a fake debate with a bunch of hand-picked people that won't actually engage in any real discussion.
	What we have is perception management.
	Exactly, and you know I picked up the phone and I called Kathleen Enright and I said, is this true?
	Do you really?
	Did you really uninvite me from this panel?
	And she said it was absolutely true because they didn't want to.
	She figured that if I showed up there was going to be a debate about the health and safety of GMOs and she said that that debate is over.
	Don't want that!
	That's not the conversation she wanted to have.
	Notice the same corporate tactic.
	The debate is over.
	Exactly.
	That's what the Borg say in Star Trek.
	We will assimilate you, the debate is over, you will submit.
	I don't think so.
	I think the debate's over for them with the thousands of studies coming out that a lot of GMOs are very dangerous, and certainly we have a right to choose.
	They're trying to block labeling, so they're clearly the bad guys here.
	Well, we look at these companies and all their resources and they talk this great story about sustainable agriculture and helping farmers and feeding the world.
	We'd love to invite them to do exactly that, but the way to do that is not by dumping millions of pounds of glyphosate and other toxic chemicals into our soils and onto our food.
	So, it's a shame that with all their power and all their resources, they couldn't put it to better use.
	But the reality is, and as everyone knows this, genetically engineered crops were never intended as a means of solving world hunger.
	GMO soy and GMO corn and GMO canola oil and all of those things either go to junk food or the vast percentage of that goes to make ethanol for your gas tanks.
	Sure, it's all about profit and monopoly in Monsanto and others' own perspectives and corporate speeches.
	You're a bigger expert on this than I, but I've seen the South by Southwest announcements that's been on TV.
	South by Southwest to help the earth with clean, healthy, sustainable food to feed the Africans.
	And in reality, from India to Africa, GMO is creating disaster zones, and in India, linked to massive farmer suicides, and here, to breast cancer and every other nightmare you can imagine.
	I mean, these are the folks that brought us Agent Orange.
	And these crops are not feeding the world.
	We're not feeding human beings, starving human beings, a bunch of GMO soy and corn.
	That's not where those crops are going.
	And the argument that genetic engineering can create drought-resistant crops and all of these is baloney, because 99% of GMO crops
	That's right.
	We're good to go.
	They could come out with very clean, one genetic trait, studied things that use less water, have higher yield.
	There might still be side effects.
	That should all be debated and researched properly.
	But instead, they've got hardcore pharmacological crops producing
	Live viruses, chemicals, you name it, open air, where they program the crops to produce whatever they want.
	Folks, I know it sounds Buck Rogers.
	Look it up for yourself.
	Look up HIV virus grown in protogen corn, Associated Press, 2002.
	I mean, you cannot make this stuff up.
	Thousands of these crops being tested, and they just say safe and effective, debate is over.
	And then all their engineering are these BT crops and other systems that are designed to resist these deadly pesticides that we know.
	I mean, another two studies came out last week, as you know, where glyphosates are linked directly to five-fold increase in kidney failure.
	Well, I mean, look at the kidneys failing everywhere.
	I mean, it's just a, it is not a suicide pact.
	I don't
	It's that, it's the whole, the whole thing is a censored authoritarian fraud.
	I'm sorry, I'm ranting, go ahead.
	No, no, I mean, I couldn't agree more.
	And the fact that they can't even allow someone like myself to be there because they don't want to admit that there still is a debate.
	The fact that they're spending millions and millions of dollars to show up at these places to get articles in publications all over the world written by people who on the surface look like they're scholars or scientists, but when you dig deep into their background, actually have deep ties to the industry.
	I want people on your show to read a couple of recent things that have come out.
	There are three things on my radar everybody ought to read.
	Sure.
	One of them is a book that just came out by Steven Drucker.
	He wrote a book called Altered Genes, Twisted Truth, How to Venture to Genetically Engineer Our Food.
	He's coming on in two weeks.
	He's coming on in two weeks.
	Plug the book again.
	He's great.
	It's Altered Genes, Twisted Truth.
	It's How the Venture to Genetically Engineer Our Food Has Subverted Science, Corrupted Government, and Systematically Deceived the Public.
	Great book!
	Fifteen years of research went into this.
	And let's go further.
	As you know, they've got two different or three different big studies just came out, even one from the U.S.
	government.
	We now know GMO crops are going through the cell wall and are actually the cell membrane in a human, not wall via plant.
	They're going through the cell membrane and changing our DNA and mitochondria and mutating us just like they do lab rats.
	I mean, exactly, and we have never, ever subjected these to long-term human health studies, and I love it.
	I just love it when the Monsanto folks and all of their front groups and phony bought-and-paid-for scientists say, there's just no proof that anybody's ever died from eating a GMO food, or, you know, we can't trace any illnesses back to GMO food.
	Well, we can't because nobody knows where that stuff is.
	There's no real traceability.
	But scientists are tracing it back.
	And this idea that if you eat something, if you eat something and you don't drop over dead immediately means it must be safe is ridiculous.
	Well, then cigarettes must be good.
	Pardon?
	I mean, you don't drop dead from your first cigarette, so they must be good.
	Exactly!
	Exactly!
	I mean, we have an epidemic of infertility in the younger generation.
	Why is everybody having to go to the doctor to get pregnant?
	Oh, it's also real funny that in a bunch of rodent studies, they never do them in humans as you said, they get them quicker in rodents.
	It causes infertility in them to eat these BT crops.
	Mmm, funny!
	Yeah, I mean, it's rampant.
	The deceit is rampant.
	The logic is ridiculous.
	And what I think, I think that people are beginning more and more to make the connection between the fact that there are two issues here.
	There's the issue, well, there are actually way more than two issues, but when it comes to human health, there's the issue of
	Is genetic modification itself creating a product that is itself dangerous and causing an illness?
	And there are plenty of studies that suggest yes.
	But also, you can't have those foods without using massive amounts of toxic, poisonous chemicals.
	Well, it's clearly both!
	And those chemicals, right, and those chemicals not only are on your food, they're in your water.
	They're in your soil, and they're everywhere.
	And it's just common sense, I think, and I think we see it.
	It's evidenced by the fact that the junk food companies are all in trouble, and the organics are in farmers' markets, whether they're organic or not, local food that we know where it came from without pesticides.
	Sales of those are growing like crazy because people are just putting two and two together.
	And Catherine, you said you had three things everybody should read, and I interrupted you going back to the book.
	Come back and tell us those two things.
	Clearly, we're starting to gain momentum.
	It transcends left-right.
	It's common sense not having your kids die of cancer when they're 20.
	This is serious.
	We know that the worm is starting to turn.
	I want to know how you think they're going to strike back as awareness explodes.
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	Catherine Paul from organicconsumers.org.
	Excellent site.
	Amazing news.
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	She's the associate director.
	She was banned.
	And then I guess her group after that from being part of South by Southwest.
	Even though they were approached and put on the panels.
	This, I think, is the enemy striking back, to answer my question to her, but I want her to elaborate.
	Trying to shut down debate, trying to create fake debates, but I just don't see it working.
	It's like a tidal wave of awakening is taking place.
	So what's the rest of the story?
	Where do you see all this going now?
	How will they strike back?
	And then what were the other two points you were going to make?
	Well, I wanted to direct people to read a couple of other things just
	Just fully, to help get more background on really the depth of the conspiracy to deceive consumers, because it really has been a conspiracy on the part of corporations.
	There's a new non-profit called U.S.
	Right to Know that recently published a report called Seedy Business, What Big Food is Hiding with its Slick PR Campaign on GMOs.
	Great deal of good information on there.
	Outlining very specifically to what length these corporations have gone to manipulate government policy and manipulate the message.
	And also another new book out, and I think this is just a sign, I mean, that there's so much being put out there right now.
	A book called Poison Spring, A Secret History of Pollution and the EPA.
	Somebody who worked for the EPA for 15 years inside talking about how the EPA has chosen to ignore its own scientists on the issues of pesticides like glyphosate and pander instead to corporations.
	How do you see them striking back and in a battle, briefly, where are we right now?
	In the battle, I think our side is getting pretty close to a tipping point.
	We've heard from insiders at General Mills, they're absolutely panicked.
	That's why they're buying up organic companies.
	We see Kellogg's is in trouble.
	We see McDonald's is in trouble.
	Corporation after corporation in the food industry are beginning to see that maybe being in bed with the biotech industry wasn't such a great idea after all.
	Even Chuck Norris is coming out against Monsanto.
	I mean, that states the end for them.
	It does.
	So there's a battle on that level.
	Consumers and their interest in their own personal health.
	That's what's really been driving this for the past
	A few years, and we've seen it with the battles to label GMOs and the lengths to which biotech industry have gone to defeat those laws.
	And they won those battles, but they lost those wars, and the backlash is incredible.
	I want to have you back up for a full hour in the near future.
	Amazing work.
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	Catherine Paul, thank you.
	Thank you.
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	We're gonna give him an earpiece, we'll also take some calls towards the end, may even do some overdrive.
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	Director at the NSA of their technical operations and technology development Will be joining us in studio Right now let's go to Matt in New Hampshire.
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	One is the EPA, and the second one has to do with something that you were covering on Sunday that actually reverts back to the TSA.
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	The EPA, Agenda 21, Salt Lake City, Utah, just passed an ordinance in the City Council that says that they're banning as of January
	No I don't!
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	Folks, if you watch the Obama deception made six years ago, I tell everybody this.
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	Okay, so Sunday, on Sunday's show you had mentioned about going out and having fun.
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	I actually just took a nice vacation.
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	I think you can call this particular hour Operation Toto.
	Little Toto pulling back the curtain so we can see what was happening behind it.
	William Binney is with us for the hour.
	William Edward Binney is the former technical leader for intelligence with the NSA before becoming a whistleblower.
	In late 2001, after more than 30 years in the agency, Binney has been described as one of the best analysts and codebreakers in NSA history.
	They basically shut up a lot of what was going on so he knew they were doing illegal stuff.
	Binney continues to speak out.
	He's been SWAT teamed, he's been attacked, he's been demonized, but it's failed.
	They've tried to silence him and other whistleblowers.
	Exposedfacts.org is a site where you can read some of his analysis and material.
	I hope he writes a book soon.
	He came down here on his own dime basically to South by Southwest.
	To speak, got a pretty good perception.
	We'll get his take on that.
	He wants to go through some of the Snowden slides today for TV viewers.
	Radio listeners can go to Infowars.com forward slash show to find the free video feed and hopefully send that link on to friends and family because Mr. Benny is a real hero.
	He'll just say that his duty, but in a world of traitors, someone doing their duty is heroic.
	And he joins us here today
	William, thanks for coming in.
	Thanks for having me.
	I don't know where to start.
	We could recap your story, what's happening, get into the exciting stuff about you coming back from Germany, you've been talking to parliaments over there, you've been talking to the EU people, the British Parliament, big national headlines where you say it's a totalitarian takeover and the Guardian.
	Here it's starting to come out in the news as well.
	I guess they failed to silence you.
	We could talk about you working with Oliver Stone now on the new Snowden documentary.
	We could get into the slides and break down the fact that it is going on from an expert, showing us not what's classified, but what's already been leaked, so you don't get in trouble.
	We're here with the former technical director of the NSA, the guy that actually ran it, William Binney.
	So you've got the floor, sir.
	Okay, but, you know, there's so much here, it's really hard to know where to start because it's really been, over time, it's been, our government has moved into basically sliding down the totalitarian slope.
	Taking massive amounts of data on our citizens and then working around and doing it across the world.
	So it's basically, they're doing this for everybody in the planet.
	And the process started here in the NSA, and it started to spread around the world to the Five Eyes countries, the UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and then to other countries like in Germany and Switzerland.
	And Sweden, and Israel.
	So the process of data collection, and now the Russians are doing it.
	I just read an article where they're starting this kind of operation.
	So now the Russians are following our lead in this spying business.
	It's a big brother race.
	Right.
	When I first started in October 2001, it was very clear to me that this was a process that we were adopting in the United States that was really a Soviet attempt or a Stasi attempt in East Germany to assemble all the information on their populations.
	Why?
	It's because they wanted to control their populations.
	That was the whole point of the totalitarian states.
	It has been down through history.
	I mean, this is nothing new.
	This has been repeated so many times since Caesar Augustus.
	You know, it was so clear right up front.
	But, I mean, you can ask anybody in the Tea Party who's been denied access to 501c3.
	You can look at the IRS use of the data, look at the law enforcement.
	DEA with a parallel construction?
	A parallel construction.
	I mean, that's spread around the world to other police organizations around the world, too.
	Anybody with an organization or police organization that has a relationship
	With the FBI or the DEA around the world is subject to getting this kind of information but they'll never be given the original data from the NSA collection because it's not admissible in a court of law because it wasn't acquired by a warrant and they don't want to, with foreigners, compromise the fact that they have the ability to collect them.
	And don't they then fence it and wash it and they've been caught adding disinformation and it's a perfect way to put into the global data stream frame-ups?
	They did that kind of framing with us.
	They did that even with us.
	The Department of Justice did that.
	They framed us.
	They tempted to.
	Speak a little bit about that.
	I think that gives people a window into how totalitarian this is.
	Well, for example, the only case that went to court was Tom Drake's case.
	They took him to court because he was still working for NSA at the time.
	This was in 2007 when they raided us initially, and then they raided Tom Drake about three months later.
	But his case didn't get to court until about 2010.
	Well, 2010 they charged him, and 2011, 10 and 11, in that frame, they wanted to take him to court.
	And what they did was they took information that he had at his house that was marked unclassified, and they changed it, they drew a line through that, and then stamped it classified, secret or top secret, then charged him with having classified material.
	That's like retroactively classifying something so you can charge somebody with having classified material.
	That's framing him, okay?
	It's a forgery, it's a fraud, it's a major felony.
	Right.
	And the problem with it is that they didn't know what they had done.
	They had released most of that material themselves, NSA did, into the public domain, unclassified.
	And that's what Jim Bamford found.
	Because Drake wasn't stupid.
	He didn't want to go to prison.
	He was only bringing out what was already out there.
	Well, first of all, it was unclassified by NSA regulations.
	That was the way they stamped it.
	I had the former director of Star Wars on, he died a few years ago, Dr. Bob Bowman, and he talked about some of the space planes once, and then they called him and came to his house and kind of threatened him, and he said, hey, here's where it was released on C-SPAN, and here's where you guys in your own propaganda a decade ago released it, and then they couldn't go after him, but that's the type of stuff they pull.
	It's a total fabrication of evidence to put people in jail.
	Right.
	That's our Department of Justice doing it.
	The Bible calls it bearing false witness.
	I call it perjury and felony, and these people should be charged and given a chance to explain what they did and why they did it.
	Tell folks what happened to you before we get into the NSA itself.
	Well, for me, in my case, I mean, I was kind of prominent, you know, complaining to senators and representatives and various other people, as was Tom Drake.
	Let's be clear, you guys were doing this internally.
	We were internal, in terms of the government.
	Yes.
	We were going to the inspector.
	We even, Kirk Beebe and I even went to talk to the Department of Justice Inspector General.
	And of course they couldn't say anything to us, but we made it clear what the problem was with this domestic spying.
	But for me and all four of us, we were the four who were first raided in July of 2007.
	We were raided because we were the ones who signed the DOD IG complaint against NSA, charging them with corruption, fraud, waste and abuse.
	And that caused a major DOD investigation of NSA that all verified what we were saying and that was published but redacted because even the unclassified embarrassing parts were redacted.
	Which is a violation of the NSA, the government... Open records.
	Yeah, well it's a violation of government classification regulations too.
	In other words, Executive Order 13526, Section 1.7 says you can't classify something or keep it classified or not declassified if it's evidence of a crime or evidence that embarrasses an agency or... You can't use the National Security Act to cover up criminal activity.
	Exactly, exactly.
	And that's basically what the NSA and the DOJ and the DOD with that investigative report, that's what they were doing.
	They were redacting it and hiding it from Congress and hiding it from everybody else.
	So they're covering up what they're doing.
	And for us, they attempted after the raid, by the way, the DOD IG's office was the one that gave our names, as the ones who submitted that complaint against NSA, they gave our names to the FBI.
	Wow.
	And that was against their regulations, okay?
	So they're all breaking the law while accusing you of doing it?
	And all you're doing is going to congressional committees and inspector generals whose job it is to have oversight and telling them, hey, they're breaking the law.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	And also, it's the committees who are supposed to, the intelligence committees in the House and Senate, and also the FISA Court, were established after the Church Committee investigation of NSA, CIA, and FBI in the 70s.
	And one of the main persons they were spying on back in the Minaret program was Senator Church.
	That's right.
	And that only came out recently, and the only reason they didn't, of course, was because they are spying on people who have power over them.
	And let's be clear.
	The fake conservative argument and the fake liberal argument is the same.
	We're protecting you from Al-Qaeda and drug dealers and all this other stuff, but then as more of this gets leaked and comes out, they're spying on Parliament, they're spying on Congress, they're spying on other agencies, and there's so much spying going on, and you've explained this, that back when you were really spying on the Russians, really spying on radical Islamists,
	Legally and lawfully, that was already legal and lawful.
	It's the domestic stuff that's illegal, but they confuse people and say, let us protect you from Al-Qaeda, when actually they're doing the opposite.
	They're letting all these groups operate because they're too busy spying on their boyfriends and their girlfriends and the congressmen.
	Yeah, and that's one of the cases that came out was what they called an NSA love-int.
	Love intelligence, that's where the analysts were looking into the data to see whether or not their better parts or their spouses or girlfriends were cheating on them.
	Well, you don't do that, first of all, you don't do that, Erica, you do not do that with metadata.
	You do that with content.
	And that's what they've been trying to hide, that they've been collecting content all along, since 2002 at least.
	And that content is stored in Utah, San Antonio, and various other storage facilities.
	And there should have been a dun-dun-dun.
	We're going to skip this network break.
	This is so important right now.
	William Benning, the former director of the technical division of the NSA.
	I've seen the news say you were the number two, number three, number four.
	What position were you in the NSA?
	That position, what level is that?
	Well, I was a senior executive grade.
	If you get in the military ranks, I'd be like a 1.5 star general.
	So, but I was the technical director of the World Geopolitical Military Analysis and Reporting Shop.
	That was about 6,000 analysts and reporters that... How high is your IQ?
	Because they say you've got like a mathematical brain.
	Come on, be serious.
	What, about 180?
	No, no, I think it was 143 or something like that.
	But, you know, I'm just a basic country boy, fundamentally.
	But you've got a genius for numbers and code cracking.
	I had a real event for doing that, yes.
	It's just a talent that you have to be able to look at patterns and see patterns in data, and when you can do that, that's the kind of thing you need to be able to break things and solve problems.
	Somehow I want to have you on, just about you, because I know most of it's classified, but you battled the Russians, the Chinese, everybody, right?
	Well, most of the Warsaw Pact, European communist countries and the Soviets.
	And you said before it upset you to go from really going spying after serious folks to like spying on congressmen.
	Yes, yeah, I mean and every US citizen in the country, yeah.
	No one was exempt.
	I mean, everybody was taken in.
	I mean, even Senator Rockefeller, when he was addressed in January on CNN, I think it was, he addressed it, he said, they've got data on, they've probably even got data on me.
	Well, I mean, what he's saying is, was right.
	I mean, they're collecting all the data content and metadata on everybody in the country.
	Explain those lies for folks.
	They claim, oh, it's just metadata, just, you know, basically when you called, when you didn't call, like a phone bill.
	No, no, no, no.
	Explain what they're really doing.
	Well, Mark Klein kind of exposed that too, and it's in court record in Mark Klein's case where he laid out the wiring for all the, for the NSA room in the AT&T facility in San Francisco.
	Sure.
	And on that, let's think it was room 641B.
	What they did was they put a prism type of fair or a splitter, what's called a splitter or Y connector, where you have a fiber coming in and it sends, it duplicates and sends it down two paths.
	One path went to the NSA room and the other path went to the normal distribution of communications.
	In the NSA room, all the diagramming showed all the NERIS devices they had in there, where they pushed the fiber optic networks into the NERIS device.
	What that did was recompile everything on the line and sessionize it, meaning reassemble all the data.
	Like if you send an email, it goes out in packets.
	We'll pull all those packets back together and say, here's the email you just sent.
	And then they would pass that on to NSA for storage.
	And that's what that device did.
	It did content collection, not just metadata, but content.
	And then now we know those hubs are everywhere, and in front of us they're building giant, huge complexes to store it all.
	Yes, the latest one that they've just submitted an environmental impact statement for is a 2.8 million square foot facility on Fort Meade, taking up basically the golf course at Fort Meade.
	2.8 million?
	It's about three times the size of Bluffdale.
	Just about three times.
	That's a million square feet.
	What I love about the NSA, we've had reporters in San Antonio and in Utah, and you just get there at the Walmart parking lot and start videotaping.
	This is 2.8.
	They run up, the police go, how dare you videotape us?
	It's just a public, I mean, it's publicly known, it's there.
	Meanwhile, they're stealing all of our data, but oh, you can't aim a camera at us.
	Yeah, right.
	It's kind of, they're hypocritical about this.
	I mean, it's all, they're all hypocrites.
	I mean, they're violating the Constitution.
	They say they're not everything that's legal.
	Well, that's retroactively passing laws.
	The problem with that is, the laws that they pass have to abide to the Constitution.
	And when you violate the Fourth Amendment, it doesn't matter what kind of law you pass that says it's okay to do that.
	It's a violation of the Fourth Amendment of the Constitution, and it's not constitutional.
	And, you know, they've said, oh, the Constitution's dead.
	You ignore it, it won't be a problem.
	But now we see the President saying, I'm going to open the borders without even an order.
	Not even an order from Obama.
	Not even Congress.
	I'm going to come after your guns without an order.
	Or without a law.
	They don't even do the fake orders now.
	They just do it.
	Obama announced yesterday, no more foyers for the White House.
	We're just not going to follow the law.
	I mean, this is dictatorship, not of Obama himself, but of the system, in my view.
	How would you describe this slide?
	It's a slide into totalitarianism and an imperial presidency and control of population process.
	I mean, that's what they're doing.
	I mean, they kept everybody in the dark so we had no informed electorate to make a decision about who to vote for about these issues or even raising these issues.
	They're all avoiding this issue.
	And they have an uninformed Congress, because that's why Representatives Amos and Conyers got a group together, a coalition of Republicans and Democrats, to try to unfund NSA, because they realized that they were being lied to by the agencies and by the intelligence committees and by the administration about what was going on.
	So, I mean, they had an uninformed Congress and an uninformed electorate by design.
	And that's basically what the Soviet Union, the Germans, that's basically what they did.
	I got a lot of questions coming up for you, William Bain.
	I want you to be able to speak on other topics you want to get into and go through some slides you gave us that Snowden leaked so you can break this down for people to kind of give us a roadmap of what's going on.
	But my big question is, as best you know, not being there in 15 years, but what's leaked and what people said, how many people really have access to the big master files to go in and send an order in and then get all my emails from a year ago or
	I don't
	They've built something that can be taken over or hacked and thus compromise everything.
	You build something that spies on everything, you've just built something that corporations, spies, private corporate criminals, anybody can get into and exploit and sell.
	And with government's history of selling driver's license, selling uranium, whatever the case is, this looks like it's a giant bazaar of information that they've just opened up.
	Yes, and internally in NSA they have no monitoring of the network as to what's going on and who's using it.
	My estimate in terms of, I mean, some of the numbers I've seen say that... Let's stop there, I don't mean to interrupt you.
	We monitor our network to see what people are doing around here.
	We monitor to see if they're downloading stuff that's illegal.
	We have to, liability.
	The NSA doesn't monitor their own network.
	That's right.
	In fact, we had proposed in the SARC, the SIGINT Automation Research Center, we proposed a program we called Well Grounded that said we wanted to monitor the entire worldwide network of NSA, who was on it, when they were on it, what they were doing, when they were there, as they did it.
	And it would be a matter of monitoring the network log, like you probably do here.
	The same principle, it's the idea where anybody on the network sends data down the line, you can see what they're doing, and it's recorded in the log.
	So you can analyze that log with software, and that's what we intended and proposed to do.
	We had two groups opposing that.
	One were all the analysts, saying, you will be able to see everything I'm doing.
	I don't want you monitoring.
	Okay?
	But they're working in a secret government operation.
	They're the ones that should have a record.
	Exactly.
	Plus, plus, that people could just sell their code and let anybody in.
	Yeah.
	Oh my, I mean, if I was a spy running America, I would want there to be no monitoring.
	Yeah.
	Well, that's exactly the point.
	That's exactly what the analyst said.
	But the real opposers of it were the managers.
	And the reason they didn't want that happening was we could watch the movement of all the money.
	We could see all the money being spent on every program, the return on investment of every program, whether or not they were successful or not, what companies were competing for, all of that kind of stuff.
	So they didn't want any oversight.
	So basically, it's a giant looting operation.
	Exactly.
	In fact, there is no oversight, there's no auditing of NSA by Congress.
	Congress does not audit NSA.
	This is a setup for corruption.
	Listen, I've had hundreds of employees over the years, we have 50 plus now, best crew I've ever had, hands down.
	I've turned pretty much any employee list, whatever they want, in almost every case, they end up going off the reservation causing problems.
	I mean, the recipe of just leaving home, you know, to your 14-year-old son for a year, you'd come back, I mean, it'd be a disaster.
	Imagine a government agency with billions of dollars a month to spend and there's no oversight.
	Right.
	And they have no way of oversight.
	I mean, even the intelligence committees, all they can do is come out and get a briefing from the people at NSA, and all they hear is what they want to tell them.
	And the same is true with the FISA Court.
	The FISA Court has no way of checking or verifying or validating what they're being told.
	That was one of the main things we suggested to the President, is how to fix NSA.
	Is to have a technical group that would make sure that what they're telling them is true, being very simply put, I suggest the hackers in the United States, they're the ones who want to find things and solve problems.
	Take these hackers, give them clearances and give them the authority to go into any agency, in any intelligence community agency in the government, sit at any terminal, look at any database, monitor every program they have and what their analysts are doing at any time.
	Basically auditors.
	Yes.
	And that would verify, be able to verify what they're being told is true.
	Right now, there is no government in the world that can trust any intelligence agency they've created.
	I was at Barton Springs last year on a sunny day with two guys and two women sitting next to me on their towels.
	And they were all police going to finish up degrees.
	Two of them just finished up to go work at the NSA in San Antonio.
	They were bragging like they were James Bond and just blabbering classified stuff right next to me.
	And I looked at them and I said, you know, when we take this country back, you're going to be known as like the Nazis.
	Even if you think this is cute, you shouldn't be laying around on the grass blabbering about it.
	Yeah.
	See, that's what my wife said to me right after we were raided by the FBI.
	She said she wanted to leave the country.
	Because she thought this was basically the Gestapo coming in.
	Stay there, sir.
	This is incredible.
	And I'm going to have to shut up.
	I'm jumping in a lot because this is just so epic what you're breaking down.
	William Benny, former technical director of the National Security Agency, is with us.
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	You can complain about Big Brother and how this is a potential program run amok.
	But when you actually look at the details, then I think we've struck the right balance.
	And if people can't trust not only the executive branch, but also don't trust Congress and don't trust federal judges to make sure that we're abiding by the Constitution, due process and rule of law, then we're going to have some problems here.
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	Because there is a war on, or your mind.
	All that evil men and tyrants seek to flourish is that good men and women do nothing.
	I think it was Edmund Burke said that, British statesman.
	There are good people in the government.
	The government's not our enemy.
	The big corporations are doing as much spying as the NSA in certain areas.
	It is the fact that we have let government corporations get out of control.
	Now there's no oversight.
	They're doing whatever they want.
	It's crazy.
	William Binney, former technical director of the National Security Agency, one of the most high-level whistleblowers of all time.
	I mean, he has exposed Benedict Arnold-level crimes.
	They've tried to put him in prison and failed.
	They have successfully put other patriots in prison.
	They've put journalists in prison.
	But for people in the government, better choose a side, because this is classic totalitarianism.
	Every top constitutional lawyer, whether they're liberal or conservative, has come out and said, we're going over the edge, this is scary.
	Even Congress is saying that, but there's no oversight, so it's just all out of control now.
	Now there are centralized groups that have a lot of power.
	But the scariest thing is, if this was a centralized system, we could probably fix it a lot better.
	William Benning, and then I'm going to give you the floor to cover a bunch of topics you want to get into and go over some of these graphics from Snowden.
	Am I right from your expert opinion that it's worse that there's not even oversight because there's all these mini-empires and God knows what going on with just unlimited spying happening and Congress doesn't know what to do?
	I mean, this is just crazy sounding.
	Is that worse than just having one centralized group running it because we could remove them?
	I mean, how do you ever get rid of something that's metastasized like this?
	Well, that's one of the things that we put into suggestions to the President in January last year.
	We sent in 21 recommendations on how to fix NSA.
	One of them was to have our group of technical people be able to monitor everything.
	And we had another one to have focused collection of data.
	That kind of data is what's pulled into the NSA, not this bulk acquisition.
	That removes the possibility of them even querying that data.
	Because now they can't even access it because it doesn't exist.
	So if you did a focused attack like we did with our program ThinThread back in the 90s, that would have eliminated this bulk acquisition.
	They couldn't do what they're doing.
	No one could do love in it NSA.
	The FBI and CIA can't get into this data to do whatever they want to, like they can now, because it wouldn't be there.
	They can't alter the data because they can't get to it.
	They can now, but because under the ThinThread program, the data wouldn't even be stored there.
	They wouldn't have it.
	So they wouldn't be able to do anything with it.
	We had a way of filtering out all domestic communications.
	That was the point.
	Metadata, content, everything.
	If it was domestic, it just passed right by.
	We could recognize it was domestic and not even take it in.
	So we never even acquired it.
	So it couldn't be stored in any NSA database.
	It couldn't be accessed by any NSA analyst or anybody in the CIA.
	So when you were there, the NSA was truly spying on foreign adversaries.
	Yes, but that, but General Hayden when he was director and it was Bush, Cheney, Hayden and Tenet that decided to spy on everybody.
	That was to expand the authority of an NSA to go into, in secret by the way, to spy and collect data on every U.S.
	citizen and everybody on the planet.
	And so when they did that, that's when I first saw that coming in.
	That was when I had to wash my hands of NSA.
	I couldn't be a part of that.
	I had to leave because that was just a... I couldn't participate or even be associated with those crimes.
	What did they say to you when you went into your superior's office?
	I guess that'd be the head of the NSA.
	What did you say?
	Actually, I didn't go to them at all.
	I went directly to the House and Senate Intelligence Committees.
	The reason was, I knew, very simply put, that everybody had been co-opted in the hierarchy of NSA.
	They committed the crime.
	Yes.
	They were all a party to it.
	All the lawyers, all of the senior managers at NSA had all followed orders from the White House, from Cheney and Bush, to do this.
	And that's what Hayden directed them to say, that this is what was, this direction was coming from the White House, therefore we're going to do it, it's lawful and we do it.
	But to talk about what a hero and how much courage you've got, I mean, you know how serious people are in this government, what they do worldwide, how corrupt it's gotten at that point.
	You had the will to march into Congress and to tell them what was going on, the first guy
	I mean, that's ten times bigger than Snowden internally.
	And to really start this whole internal debate and this avalanche of understanding now, I mean, you were really one of the first people to ring the bell to warn folks that the country, as we knew it, was being dismantled.
	Yes, and in order to do that, I had to meet with one of the staffers of the House Intelligence Committee, Diane Roark, that I knew.
	So I met with her at her house, because we couldn't trust the House Intelligence Committee, because they were a part of it.
	And we also couldn't trust anybody in NSA, so the only place that we'd find we could have a conversation or even talk about this was her house.
	There was no other place that was secure.
	In the supposed free country of America, and then you get SWAT team.
	Tell folks about that.
	Well yeah, after that and after talking to other members of Congress, and it was actually the morning of the second day after Attorney General Gonzalez's testimony to the Senate Judiciary Committee on the Terrorist Surveillance Program, where he only talked about the warrantless wiretap program.
	That was the part that was exposed.
	And claimed it was for Al Qaeda.
	Yeah, right.
	That's right.
	But that was only a smidgen of what they were doing.
	I mean, that was like an infinitesimal of what they were really taking in.
	At that time it must have been a lower percentage of phone calls but the vast majority of emails inside the United States as well as worldwide.
	Which I estimated to be now at least 80% of the phones calls in the United States are now being recorded somewhere.
	That's how Tim Clemente could say that after the Boston bombing we can get back to what was said in a phone call between one of the Tsarnaev brothers and his wife before the bombing.
	Let's be clear, they're saying it on television that they're recording all the calls, but then denying it out of the next breath.
	That was CNN.
	Also, Dr. Mueller of the FBI, in his Senate Judiciary testimony on the 30th of March of 2011, said that he got together with the Department of Defense and set up a database where he and the FBI could make one query and get all past and all future emails on a person.
	Now that tells you that that's coming out of Bluffdale, by the way.
	All the data is being collected and stored.
	And so it's not just phone calls, it's emails, it's everything else.
	And of course some of the recent publications show credit card use is being stored also.
	How many people in the NSA, how many people have a high enough clearance in government agencies, period, to be able to go in and hear my phone calls, say, to my dad yesterday?
	I believe the figures I've seen, at least of what's been published, is probably on the order of about 3,000 government employees.
	Now, that doesn't count contractors who are managing the data.
	That's the real rub.
	You have all these contractors who manage the communications, the computers, the data stories, the query programs, and the communications back and forth between the analysts to ensure all of that.
	Who could do a Snowden-level breach if they wanted?
	Snowden-level breach, yes.
	Yeah.
	Because they don't have any monitoring system of them.
	Anybody with a system administrator or a super user case, which is what he has.
	People say there's no way Snowden could do it.
	No, it's like it's designed to bring the country down.
	It's like it's designed to end our national security, and then they're selling it as national security.
	Well, that gets back to that program we wanted to put in place in 1991 or 92, which was well-grounded to monitor this.
	And we were opposed by the analysts and the administrator, the managers, because of all the material it exposed that they were doing.
	But that meant that they left the entire network with no monitoring system at all.
	That's why they can't tell what Snowden took.
	They don't have any idea.
	They're guessing.
	1.7 million... What's behind an open border?
	What's behind an open NSA?
	What's behind... At the end of the day, what do you think the different power elites are thinking?
	I basically see us moving to a controlled society.
	A totalitarian state where it is, the government wants to be in charge.
	I mean, when Reagan said we're a country with a government, I think we're now a government with a country.
	And all of the things that are happening are only tightening that control on the people.
	They're going to manipulate them and keep, as long as they can keep them uninformed,
	And nobody realizes what's going on, or they don't see the threat.
	If they say, if you've done nothing wrong, you have nothing to hide.
	First of all, that's a great quote from Joseph Goebbels.
	And secondly, that's totally irrelevant.
	Yeah, they're actually quoting Joseph Goebbels on a routine basis.
	It's like satire.
	It's like the lies they keep saying.
	That's right out of Hitler's playbook.
	If you're going to tell a lie, make it a big one and tell it frequently until it's believed.
	And that's what's going on here.
	And we're assuming that we trust our government, so we're assuming they're telling us the truth.
	Well, that's just wrong.
	It's just a bunch of corporations and private contractors screwing us over.
	For money, yes.
	I've been basically said what they did after 9-11 was trade the security of the people of the United States and of the world for money.
	Because it was all about money.
	It wasn't about solving the problem.
	In fact, I originally had a... because of this problem of not... the contractor's not really solving the problem, I kept thinking, well, their vision statement must be, aim low and miss, you know?
	Sure.
	That was what I thought originally, but really in the end, it's keep the problem going so the money keeps flowing.
	That's the real issue.
	Their problem is getting the next contract.
	If you solve the problem, you don't have the problem to get money.
	That's their philosophy.
	And that's why they've had a lot of top geopolitical analysts admit now that that's why we have such a corrupt global elite is because they don't ever want to fix any problems because they're getting contracts, or their buddies are, off of things getting worse.
	But if they end up destabilizing the whole planet and bringing down civilization, then all their Swiss bank money isn't going to buy Jack Squat.
	That's another problem with the programs that they've been doing, like recognizing weaknesses in firewalls and operating systems and weakening encryption systems with the Bull Run program, for example, out of NSA.
	That's weakening all those things around the world for everybody.
	And you're talking about back doors.
	Back doors and things like that.
	They're building back doors and being shappers for real criminals and groups out there.
	Yeah, but also weakening encryption systems so that you can penetrate them and read them.
	So the point is that NSA has no monopoly on smart people.
	People around the world, hackers and people in Russia and China and so on, all around the world, also have smart people.
	And they can go in and hack into systems and recognize these weaknesses in the firewalls and operating systems and the encryption systems, so they can penetrate everything too.
	I mean, the point is if you keep those things weak, which is what the operational side of NSA wants to do, because then that allows them to see into what you're doing.
	That's like saying we want the average American to have a 70 IQ because that makes us more manageable.
	We'll just then be a nation of mentally retarded people.
	I mean, I hate to use a bad analogy like that, but it's like, make us totally wide open so we can spy on you, not seeing the fact that it just opens the world up to all these data breaches.
	Every day, Bank of America or this or Google losing millions of this, millions of that, credit cards not working, my bank accounts constantly having people doing stuff.
	I mean, it's just a mess.
	Yeah, and there's another contradictory point here too.
	Part of NSA is called IAD, that's the Information Assurance Directorate.
	That directorate is supposed to secure communications within the United States.
	For the government and for anybody else, they're supposed to share technology so they can improve the security of their networks.
	Well, that's working against the operational side that wants to penetrate those networks.
	So, on the one side you're trying to defend them, on the other you're trying to attack them.
	So, the point is... Schizophrenic.
	Yeah.
	When I was in operations, I had solved a system I thought was a pretty significant one, and I thought, well, the IAD people also do that for our side, so I'm going to go over and talk to them about what I've just solved from the other side, the operations side, and tell them, here's the solution on the bad guys.
	And isn't this very similar to what you do for ours and shouldn't you watch for these kind of penetrations that I can do over here?
	You know, and they wouldn't talk to me about this.
	Well, we have hackers that call us, some famous ones, and they tell us holes and stuff we've got.
	They help us.
	That's what White Hats do.
	You're saying they didn't want to communicate and... Exactly, internally in NSA.
	They didn't want to communicate and share that kind of knowledge.
	But I told them my side, so they can use it defensively.
	But by doing the things they're doing, the operations side, seeing all the weakness, isn't telling the defensive side that they exist.
	Wow, so these agencies, you always hear this, but they really are their own little fiefdoms, waging war against each other.
	And that doesn't count going to CIA and the conflicts between CIA and NSA.
	It's like a competition.
	Who has the best knowledge, right?
	Since you bring that up, some people say, and I don't know if it's true or not, and you've talked to Oliver Stone, he's talking to Snowden, that Snowden could be a CIA operative in a dirty war about taking some of the power away from NSA.
	I think that's basically an effort to deflect what Snowden has compromised and to get published about what's going on.
	It's a side issue.
	They try to deflect the narrative to something else.
	Because CIA is a part of this.
	CIA and some of the material slides that I have that Snowden has released, it shows the CIA connection into the NSA databases which exposes all that data to CIA as well as the FBI.
	And that's how they do the parallel construction.
	They first go in and get the data from NSA, and then they have to do a parallel construction.
	That's how the FBI and DEA do it.
	And they have that direct, or almost direct, access into those databases.
	It is surreal that I'm 41 years old and I'm sitting here reaching millions of people with William Binney, the former technical director of the NSA, who ran warfare operations against all these other governments, and you're here telling me that we're going into a total tyranny.
	I've got all these questions, these Twitter questions, that was one of them, we've got all these...
	Open phones, I'll give the number out for a couple calls, 800-259-9231, 800-259-9231.
	We're going to break here in a few minutes, we'll do a little bit of overdrive, and then I'm just so thankful to have you here.
	What else are key tidbits you'd like to impart to the listeners and viewers out there about what we're dealing with and how you think we may be able to change it?
	And then separately, you said you think there is an awakening happening.
	I believe there is.
	One of the major aspects though that I wanted to point out here, and I have it in some of the slides, it was a program called the Treasure Map.
	And the objective there is to monitor where every device is in the world on the network.
	Every computer, every phone, every mobile are fixed.
	And monitor them every minute of every day.
	So that's keeping a constant track on where you are and where you're moving and where you've been.
	At what time.
	And that paired up with the content collection and metadata collection shows them who you are, who you're talking to, what you're talking about, and perhaps even why you're discussing things, and even in a journalist's sense, a wham about what kind of operation you're trying to do.
	And then you pair that up with the treasure map type approach, getting you the when, when you are somewhere, and where you are when you're doing this.
	That gives you all the components of a story of your life.
	And that's what they're really doing.
	They're pulling all of this data together to get an entire picture of your life.
	Of everybody on the planet.
	At least the objective seems to be every device on the network, so I estimate that to be 4 billion people.
	And monitoring them where they are constantly throughout the day.
	And we're showing some of the Snowden documents here as you speak.
	Yes.
	If you want to back up one.
	Yeah, that slide shows all of the programs internally in NSA and how CIA and FBI access them.
	Skip this break too guys, it's too important.
	So they go into these programs, the programs on the right basically index the metadata that builds the social networks for, that's Mainway and Marine.
	All of this was denied, all of this illegal.
	Right.
	But it also is storing the content in Pinwhale for the digital network, and the voices in the Nucleon, that's where the content is stored.
	And it's indexed against the relationships that are built in the graphs in Mainway and Marina, so that analysts look at the graphs, and they pull out the graph, and see something interesting, and they say, okay, give me all the content that goes with it, and it gets pulled out from those two databases.
	So they go through, see the metadata, see the key things that the algorithm picks that they think might be important, then they can drill down and hear you having phone sex with your wife.
	And it's also true of CIA and FBI, they've got access to that too, so.
	Exactly.
	That's how they do the research for crimes or the IRS looks to who's involved with the Tea Party.
	They get that data right out of the graphs.
	It's all there in your file.
	Right, exactly.
	And they've been caught, as you know, as you said even yourself, just making stuff up, too.
	They can just add stuff in there.
	Yes.
	That gives them the opportunity to go in and modify anything they have, right?
	And they now, with voice print analysis for a long time, can take a recording of your voice, with different programs that are publicly available, type it in, and then create William Binney saying in a speech whatever they wanted to.
	That's also, we call that manipulation, yeah.
	And the public doesn't know they can manipulate DNA, they can manipulate biometrics, they can manipulate voice.
	Well, even some of the metrics that they're using in terms of biometrics, that's kind of within a range of probabilities, so that's still, when they claim, if they claim they have a match, that's not necessarily a match.
	But they can claim it based on the probabilities that they're... Yeah, I see that all the time.
	We have a voice print or a face print that you're the person that did this and it turns out it's not true.
	Those things are only accurate up to a degree and they won't tell you that that's true.
	Because it weakens their argument.
	Can you imagine if Stalin or Hitler would have had stuff like this?
	Well, just think back in the revolution.
	Washington and the Continental Congress would have been erased immediately.
	And they used codes themselves.
	Yeah.
	But I mean, they wouldn't have had a chance.
	And then this will just allow tyranny to get the biggest, fattest, most evil it ever has.
	I think we're in for some serious times.
	Yes.
	Yes, we are.
	A lot of folks are just going to surrender, but as history shows, you surrender to tyrants, it gets really bad.
	Yes.
	Yeah, unfortunately.
	And when they say they don't collect content or they don't tap into the fiber network randomly in the U.S., there's a slide, a Fairview slide, that shows all of the tap points in the 48 states of the United States.
	It's not random, it's directed, it's based at convergent points where fibers converge, where they put collection devices where it gives them a much larger queue.
	Sure, the key hops.
	Right.
	There it is.
	No, no, it's not that one.
	That's worldwide.
	That's worldwide, yeah, it's before that.
	That's it, right there.
	And it's basically following the distribution of the population of the United States.
	And also, if you know, as they claim, they were only after foreign communications.
	If they were only after foreign communications, the only sites they would need would be along the coast, where the trans-oceanic cables surface.
	Sure.
	Otherwise, all the other collection points in there are domestic.
	And there's 80 to 100 taps.
	And those are the major points for, um, major sites for, uh, uh... And we have these Death Star plans because of Snowden.
	Yeah, that's right.
	Many boffins died against this information.
	I mean, this, this, this, uh, yeah, this is, this to me is the crime.
	This is the domestic spying on a... And we have them and they flip it around on Snowden.
	Right.
	Well, let's have to, you have to... When he's exposing a crime.
	You have to change the narrative.
	I mean, this is illegal.
	Yes.
	But so is Obama saying the borders can be wide open or he can ban green tip ammo.
	What we have is a government that's above the law, only we are subjected to the law, and they change it any way they want to fit their desire.
	Unbelievable.
	William Binney is our guest in studio.
	Laura LaRue asked on Twitter, at Real Alex Jones, why haven't we begun impeachment recall process for the feds funding, I got examples of them funding terrorists and spying the blackmailed public officials.
	Why haven't we?
	I think it's just a continuation of their doing what they want to do and they feel they're above the law.
	For example, when Nancy Pelosi, when she was Speaker of the House, said impeaching George Bush is off the table, that's because she was one of the first of the four people in Congress briefed on these programs.
	So if she impeached George Bush, George could say to her, you have to impeach yourself because you're a part of this.
	That's how Julius Caesar, who you mentioned earlier, got control, is he corrupted the patrician families so they were part of it.
	This was all done in secret too, by the way.
	They were given secret briefings, they couldn't talk about it.
	Rockefeller talked in his letter to Cheney about this, that I'm not a technician, I'm not a legal person, and so on, but I'm really uncomfortable about this, you know?
	So, it was all, all they had to do at that point was say, anybody from the House should have stood up and said, look, this is obviously unconstitutional.
	If you don't stop this, I'm going to introduce impeachment procedures against you in the House.
	And now the genie's out of the bottle and the Russians and everybody else are doing it.
	And then they argue, well, they're doing it, we've got to do it.
	Yes.
	This is a disaster.
	We need international treaties now.
	We need to dismantle this stuff.
	We need to go back to, you know, as you said, where they only get the metadata.
	They don't get all the actual data.
	I mean, they've lied about it so much they're recording everything.
	Yeah.
	Oh my gosh.
	There's so many things to get to in these questions.
	Over and over again they ask, how do we throw off this tyranny?
	What can we do?
	Well, I mean, the main approach right now, I think, is you have to hammer your representatives and senators.
	And not just with emails or Twitter or phone calls, but also when they come to public forums or public town meetings.
	Get up and embarrass them with asking questions of why aren't you why aren't you living up to your office oath of office to defend the Constitution because under the spying they're violating all our constitutional rights of privacy.
	And we know they're using it to frame people.
	I want to go to some phone calls but what about Google?
	And Facebook and all their relationships with the government and how they're engaged in spying.
	I mean, Hertz is putting cameras in the cars.
	That's mainstream news.
	Samsung admits their TVs are recording and watching you.
	They're now putting the terms and conditions of iPhones and droids.
	Yes, we're actually recording your voice.
	I mean, I guess they're trying to cover their butts now and they're doing it too.
	Yes, and I think all of this should be declared unconstitutional or illegal.
	I mean, they shouldn't be allowed to do this.
	It's crazy!
	Yes.
	It's all these stars put their photos and sex up on the cloud and then are surprised it gets hacked.
	Yes, that's the point.
	I mean, if you weaken systems, everybody can get in.
	So, and the other point is very simple, that when these companies are doing this, this is a rich environment for NSA and CIA to mine.
	And the FBI.
	And they say, okay, now this environment we want and we require you to give it to us.
	If you don't give it to us, we'll unilaterally tap the lines that you use to pass the data and we'll get it all anyway.
	And then there's a payment.
	We know sometimes they pay for it as well.
	There's a schedule for paying for it.
	It's totally sick.
	But now they're bypassing with all these shell towers and stingrays.
	They're just building their own networks to spy on us.
	Yeah, and in fact, they don't even have to do that anymore now that they have all the SIM cards.
	And all the keys to get into every cell phone and every computer.
	All they have to do is download from the towers locally a little implant that says, I want everything you do.
	I can't believe we're coming towards the end of the interview.
	We've got a little bit of overdrive coming up.
	I want to go to Brian, John, Scotty, Matthew, and a few others.
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	Well, it's epic, ladies and gentlemen.
	William Benny is here with us right now, former technical director of the National Security Agency, just exposing mass crime and a criminal conspiracy of arrogance and fraud that destroys our national security, destroys our children's futures, and is openly used to just rape our basic liberties.
	Brian, in Florida, you're on the air with William Benny.
	Go ahead.
	Yes, Mr. Bernie.
	I have a question.
	Basically, I'm a retired C.T.
	from the Navy, so you probably know what they are.
	Yep.
	But, the way I look at everything, there is probably no way 100% you could ever secure your information.
	Is that correct?
	Yeah, that's pretty much correct.
	Yeah.
	The way things stand right now.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, that's what I was figuring.
	Well, I love how the callers come up.
	I mean, God bless you for what you're doing.
	Thank you.
	Go ahead, caller.
	You just want to say something else?
	Sorry.
	Go ahead.
	No, sir.
	Thank you so much.
	So, William, isn't it surreal to know we really became, when it comes to surveillance, a thousand light years ahead of 1984?
	Yes, and in fact, I would only quote Wolfgang Schmidt, a former lieutenant colonel in the East German Stasi.
	When he was talking about the NSA spying data, he said to us, meaning the Stasi, to us, this would have been a dream come true.
	They had to work really hard to get what they got.
	They had hundreds of thousands of files on everybody in East Germany.
	It was handwritten files.
	So it was less efficient, less up-to-date, less consolidated, less interactive.
	You couldn't query it like you can today with the electronic stuff.
	That's why he said this is a dream come true.
	That's why the former KGB, now the FSB in Germany, and the Soviet Union, or the Russian now, is adopting all these procedures.
	They're picking up on this too, is the way to do it.
	We are the world leader in evil.
	Yes.
	I mean, they started the kind of spying on their own populations and now we have adopted that procedure and gone N degrees further.
	Yeah, when I first heard this 15 years ago, I didn't believe it, but they actually hired Marcus Wolfe, the former head of the Stasi, as a consultant, and they're setting up the HUMET Homeland Security Infra-Guard squads, and basically setting up on-the-ground intelligence as well, and it's all political.
	Man, this country's in trouble!
	Woo!
	Yes, we are.
	Man!
	I mean, it's like, we've got like stage four tyranny cancer.
	That's why I called it the greatest threat to our democracy since our Civil War.
	It is.
	I mean, this is unbelievable.
	John and Georgia, go ahead.
	You're on the air.
	Yes, Alex.
	What I'd like to ask is, these programs, the only way that I can see them being operational would be using people's taxes.
	And why isn't there someone calling for a repeal of, is it the 15th Amendment or the 16th Amendment, to try to cut off the head of the snake, so to speak, so they can't get the funding?
	Sure, when the government's gone rogue, it does get to the point of saying, we better not pay our taxes.
	The problem is they'll just issue more bonds to themselves.
	It's, it's, it's, that's why they're so arrogant.
	It's reached cuckoo level, where they have disconnected from reality, in my view.
	William?
	Yeah, I think, I think that's absolutely right.
	I mean, they would just take more debt on, and that's put back on the people anyway.
	So I don't think you can stop them that way.
	You have to get laws passed that will, in Congress, that's supposed to control the purse to cut the spending.
	Sure.
	And when it comes to taxes, if you're going bankrupt because of onerous taxes, and you're a hard-working guy and you can't feed yourself...
	I mean, I wouldn't pay him.
	And I'm not telling you don't pay him.
	It's like the mob, they'll break your legs.
	But, you know, this system is getting so bad that you can't blame... Thank you so much, caller.
	God bless you.
	William Binney, what about the issue of having a lawless government?
	Won't that encourage everybody else to become lawless?
	Well, I know there's... I mean, I'm hearing from my brother and others in Virginia where they're thinking, geez, this looks like we need another revolution.
	I wouldn't advocate it.
	I think we have ways and means of doing it right now, but it's putting pressure on... I mean, if we have to, we have to fire everyone that's in Washington.
	We just have to fire them all, get rid of them, because they're... I was even recommending a new... having our Article 5 convention to set up a new way of electing people.
	That's by randomly picking from the phone book.
	We certainly can't do any worse than what we've got now.
	William Manning, I...
	This is incredible.
	I'm going to talk to you in the break and see if you want to do this.
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	I would like to just let you sit here and have the floor, give a ten minute speech and end it that way.
	I can say William Binney hosted my show.
	We're going to come back and do that.
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	Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
	This is Bill Finney sitting in for Alex Jones.
	He's giving me a segment here too.
	State my concerns to you, the American public, about what I feel we need to do in terms of combating and changing the course that our government's taken.
	From the arguments the government puts forward, they say they're doing this for security of the people of the United States, and they're doing it for terrorism to try to prevent it, and you have to give up your privacy for them to be able to do that, and that's just an outright lie, first of all.
	And secondly, what's really happening by taking in this bulk data, it's really
	Overburdening their analysts in the NSA, CIA, all over the world.
	And so they can't really stop these events of terrorism, like the bombings in Boston, or the shooting in Paris, or in Copenhagen, or the Fort Hood shooter, or any of that, because their analysts are so burdened with data, they use a dictionary select type approach, which is fundamentally a Google approach.
	That means that when they do their daily polls, they use their dictionary select, and they get like a Google return.
	Well, that's hundreds of thousands, or even a million returns.
	No analyst could make it through all that data in any day.
	And the next day they get an equivalent amount.
	So that means they're making themselves totally dysfunctional.
	And that's just not true for NSA, that's also true in GCHQ and around the world, because all these governments are adopting the same procedures.
	Instead of taking a focused approach, which would make a rich environment of content to be able to manage and analyze, that would make them successful.
	So, fundamentally, they're exposing people to more risk.
	They're not actually protecting you, they're making it more risky for you.
	You're losing security because of this procedure they've adopted.
	So, the point is, from my perspective, I keep arguing, and other NSA whistleblowers and I have made suggestions on how to do this to the government, but the President has not adopted those techniques, nor have any of the intelligence agencies, simply because there is too much money in this process of doing bulk acquisition of data.
	That's their motive, to keep having the money flow and keep that going.
	So changing that particular procedure is rather difficult, even within government, because this money comes out and goes to corporations that are in the constituent areas of the representatives and senators.
	So they have a vested interest in also keeping this going.
	So the only way to do it is to raise up as a public.
	We have to start standing up as Americans.
	Americans aren't supposed to sit back and let things happen and let
	Let government do what it does.
	We're supposed to be out there challenging.
	We have to be participating in our democracy and republic.
	We cannot sit by and let these things happen and be quiet.
	If we do, we're going to get this totalitarian state that we're sliding toward right now.
	I mean, so that's really the basic issue that I have to convey to you, that you need to stand up.
	How can you do that?
	You can't sit there and say you don't have any power.
	You really do have power.
	And the power is to talk to your representatives and senators and complain to them and make sure that this is a major concern to you.
	And when they come around to give you town meetings and talk to you and get your vote, stand up and address them and make them publicly come out with a statement of their position on this issue.
	If you don't, I mean, they're going to continue doing what they are doing right now.
	They simply say they're assuming, because now if you're not complaining, they're assuming that you're okay with everything they do or they feel they can do anything and the country will accept it.
	And as long as they keep saying things and not telling the truth and exposing what's really going on, they can keep you in the dark and you'll never know.
	So that's why you have to get up, stand up, challenge them.
	I mean, after all, they're even addressing the free press we're supposed to have, like with Jim Risen and Jim Rosen of the AP and various other investigative journalists.
	They're shutting down their sources of information and keeping them quiet.
	Well, that's destroying a free press.
	So the free press is supposed to be interrogating the government to see what they're doing so they can inform the public what the government is after and what they're really doing.
	Well, that's falling totally apart.
	I mean, look at Jim Rose in his case.
	They had him under subpoena for any number of years trying to get him to tell the source of information in the books and things he's published.
	Well, under the press rules, he had the right to keep the sources confidential.
	So they're attempting to destroy a free press, which is the next step in going to a totalitarian state.
	So if we don't stand up, Americans, we're going to lose our country.
	We're going to lose the process that we hold dear, that at least a republic I've had when I grew up, and that my father and his father before him had.
	I mean, we're going to lose it because we can't trust
	We cannot trust the government and what they're saying.
	They, in fact, have been deliberately keeping us in the dark as to what's going on and keeping a lot of Congress in the dark, too.
	So by doing this complaining to the Congress, you have at least an opportunity to change the process and the sequence of things and where it's headed.
	Short of that, I mean, you have to fire everybody in Congress.
	That's the only way to get rid of them.
	You have to get rid of the bums because they're not living up to their oath of office, which is to protect and defend the Constitution.
	The President, of course, has the additional responsibility under his oath of office to preserve the Constitution.
	He has to preserve, protect, and defend.
	The others, like when I was in government, I had to protect and defend the Constitution.
	That's why I felt that what I was doing was consistent with my oath of office, also consistent with being a citizen of the United States, of actively getting and participating in this democracy that we have, is getting up there and standing up and defending that Constitution, at least trying to protect it and defend it.
	That's something that our representatives in Washington are not doing and that's something we have to call them on.
	We have to make sure as the citizens that we stand up and say, look, you're in office and we voted you there and your oath of office is to do this to protect our rights and you're not doing that.
	And put them on the spot publicly.
	This is the only way to do it.
	Sunlight is the only cure.
	And that's why Edward Snowden has really performed a huge public service by exposing these programs that have been in place and put in place since 9-11 to spy on everybody in the United States and accumulate information on everybody.
	It's one thing for companies to do it, which I also disagree with.
	They shouldn't be allowed to do that.
	But they're doing it for the purpose of advertising and making money.
	The government's doing it for the purpose of finding criminal activity and also being able to control the population.
	That's really what's happening.
	I mean, you could see it in the militarization of your local police and the spread of the Department of Homeland Security and their equipment worldwide and the buying of the bullets and so on.
	They're all leading to the state of basically being able to control the population.
	And that's fundamentally what I've been, that's what I testified to in Germany when I gave testimony at the Bundestag, that the entire process that was adopted by NSA, and has been spread around the world through all the intelligence agencies, is one of controlling and assembling information to be able to control the population, not just in the United States, but around the world.
	So this is not just threatening us and our democracy, it's a world, we're destroying democracy around the world.
	In fact, we're doing such a good job that the Russians and others, what we used to call totalitarian states, are now adopting the procedures that we've implemented.
	And this basically tells you that we're on the wrong path, our government, since Dick Cheney said publicly on television that we had to go to the dark side.
	Well, that meant we went to the dark side for rendering, torture, murder, you know, drone strikes, spying on everybody.
	All of this is the dark side.
	Well, that's not American.
	And that's certainly not consistent with the founding principles of this government.
	We were founded on the principles of human rights and what these processes that are putting in place now are in fact taking those rights away.
	So the only way we can change this is to stand up.
	We have to get active.
	Say something.
	I don't care what it is you say or how you say it, but get up and participate and discover and make sure that if you oppose this move towards totalitarianism, you need to speak up and say something.
	You can't be quiet.
	You have to get out there and participate.
	And that's really the theme of what I would like to say to everybody in America.
	And that's what
	The only way now to do it is to address your representatives and senators and make sure that you push that on them and keep pushing that.
	And if they don't start saying them, just tell them you're going to fire them by voting against them the next time.
	That will get their attention because that's really what they want to do.
	They want to stay in Congress and be there for years.
	And that's part of our problem.
	We don't have term limits, so we end up with what I call petrified politicians in place in Washington.
	They've been there for so long that it's a never-ending career for them.
	Well, when you do that with politicians, they tend to think over time that they know better than anybody else and that they don't have...
	They believe that they can make the decisions that are right for the country, whether or not the public in the United States would agree or not, or even if they disagree, that doesn't matter.
	If their opinion says, let's go another way, then that's what they do.
	So that's where we have to stand up as a group, and you have to do this as a group and make sure that the wave of public opinion hits them in a place that hurts them, and that's at the voting booth.
	If you vote against them and fire them, that will get their attention.
	That's the big thing that I would say.
	Fire the bums.
	Get rid of them.
	And I would say if there's a word incumbent after somebody here in the voting booth,
	I would say more than likely it's better to vote against them.
	Like I said earlier, the best way I would see to do it is to randomly select people from the phone book and give them every two years a chance to get into office that way.
	Think about that for a minute.
	That would mean you get mostly people who would want to be honest.
	That's certainly a change from what we've got.
	And you get people who would like to balance a budget.
	That's certainly new.
	I mean, we could reduce the deficit that way for sure.
	And you'd get mostly people who would like to cooperate to solve a problem.
	That certainly is new too.
	And the other benefits, think about it, the political parties would be gone.
	You wouldn't have to do
	Campaigns or any of that, you wouldn't have all this vested interest and lobbyists going on.
	So you could end up getting all these positive effects by randomly selecting from the phone book.
	And politicians should realize from us that we're saying that's a better way to do it than what we've got now.
	So thank you very much for your time and listening.