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	Big Brother, Mainstream Media, Government Cover-Ups.
	You want answers?
	Well, so does he.
	He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
	And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
	Hello and welcome to the Alex Jones Show.
	This is Mike Adams, the health ranger, filling in for Alex, who's working on other projects today.
	The guy never quits working, super busy.
	We've got a huge lineup of news for you today.
	The world continues to veer towards insanity, it seems.
	We've got three, maybe even four, hard-hitting guests lined up for you throughout the show today.
	Including James Stewart and Rawsome Foods is now history.
	It has been disassembled, sold off, sanitized, eliminated from California.
	So the bureaucrats there think they've won a victory.
	We're going to have James Stewart talking about that.
	But even bigger issue is what this means for America and the government's assault on farms and food freedom.
	I want to thank you for joining me today.
	I really put the word out about this show and the focus on the government's assault on farms and food freedom.
	But of course, we're going to cover much more than that in the third hour.
	For example, we have attorney Dale Carson joining us.
	He's a former FBI agent and also a former South Miami cop.
	He's the author of a book called Arrest Proof Yourself.
	He's an expert on
	How to not get arrested, which is a very important skill today, given that the police are sometimes anxious to throw people behind bars.
	And we're going to find out why.
	It turns out there is kind of a point system, a tally system that they use where their careers advance.
	If they can arrest you for a felony crime, even if you never get convicted of it, the cop still gets the points or the tally for having made that arrest, regardless of the merits of that arrest.
	So Dale Carson will be joining us in the third hour.
	In the second hour also, we've got Mark Baker from bakersgreenacres.com.
	He is the farmer whose pigs are threatened with being shot by the authorities in the state of Michigan.
	Who have decided that now all these backyard pigs are so-called feral pigs, and they've threatened to go in and destroy these herds, these livestock, all across the state.
	So we're going to have some thoughts from him.
	He's a veteran of the United States Air Force, and many veterans are getting extremely frustrated and wanting to speak out more about what they see as government intimidation and tyranny and oppression aimed at them.
	Now in another case that exemplifies the abuse of government power against American citizens, we're also going to be covering the breaking news that's just up today about Andrew Wordy's.
	He's the backyard chicken man from Roswell, Georgia.
	And Andrew took his life, set himself on fire, set his house on fire with himself in it.
	Just, what, two weeks ago, roughly, March 26th, I believe, was the day after being intimidated, oppressed, abused by government authorities there in Roswell, Georgia, for many years.
	We've got a timeline of events, how the bureaucrats there escalated the events and threw him in jail and resulted in his home being looted, his chickens being poisoned, all his valuables being stolen, and then they tried to take his land as a green zone
	Even though they are the ones who were causing the flooding that affected his land.
	We're going to have that story, more details for you on that coming up right here on the Alex Jones Show.
	Plus, all that and other breaking news.
	We've got news about the MIT prediction of the post-industrial crash of the human population.
	Alex covered that a bit yesterday.
	We'll go into more details on that today.
	We've got dental x-rays linked to brain cancer.
	We've got the natural health products bill in New Zealand that would now criminalize you for making a cup of herbal tea.
	That's right, a $50,000 fine for brewing up a cup of herbal tea in New Zealand.
	So you see the suppression of medical freedom is happening everywhere around the world.
	We've got more news on the honeybee population collapse.
	I know Alex covered that a bit yesterday.
	We'll go into a little more detail.
	News about pink slime.
	How to survive the modern world in the event of a crisis and much more.
	All of that is straight ahead here on the Alex Jones Show.
	So don't go away.
	We will be right back after this break.
	Stay with us.
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	Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
	Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.
	It is Tuesday, April 10th, 2012.
	This is Mike Adams, the health ranger, sitting in for Alex today.
	Thank you for joining us today.
	We've got a huge lineup of not just great guests, but also breaking news on the freedom and liberty front.
	As always, pushing the boundaries of awareness and awakening so that we can help people actually stand up for their liberties and freedoms right here on the Alex Jones Show.
	We are under chemical assault in America today.
	By chemical assault,
	I'm talking about the SSRI drugs, which Alex covered yesterday in some detail, which the LA Times even found the courage to write about the soldiers being drugged with SSRIs and other psychiatric drugs, leading to violence and mayhem and murder, and that's an absolute fact.
	That is something that I've been harping on for years, because we've seen the school shootings, we've seen the violence, we've seen the death, and normally the mainstream media doesn't even cover the psychiatric drugs that are involved.
	I don't have a lot of nice things to say about the LA Times, but kudos to them for actually covering that over the last few days, and especially thumbs up to Alex for covering it here on the show.
	It's not just the chemical assault on humans, it's also the chemical assault on the insects.
	Why does that matter?
	You might be laughing.
	Why does that matter?
	Well, the honeybees, of course.
	About one-third of all the food that you eat is pollinated by honeybees.
	And without those pollinators, of course, the food supply collapses, literally just collapses in one season.
	And three new hard-hitting scientific studies have come out recently within the last just couple of weeks, two of them just in the last week, that
	All but prove a link between these pesticides, these chemical synthetic pesticides and the collapse of the honeybees.
	Now I know there are other issues involved such as the cell phone towers.
	There's electromagnetic radiation and interference and so on.
	GMOs probably have a role in the collapse of the honeybee populations, but now we know for sure that the pesticides do.
	So we have this chemical assault on humans and on insects affecting the food supply.
	And at the same time that's going on, we've got all the GMOs out there, which is just another form of a really a genetic assault on humanity.
	And then at the same time that's going on, we've got the Obama administration and the government attacking all of our liberties and all of our freedoms.
	And I believe, based on what I've been reading and the research that I've been doing, remember I work 16 hour days at Natural News, I'm the editor there in case you don't know.
	So I work just like the guys here work, Aaron Dykes and Alex Jones and Kurt Nimmo, everybody works so hard doing the research.
	I believe that there is an agenda to destroy America's economy, to take over America, to centralize all the resources.
	I mean, we saw it with not just the attacks on the farmers, which we're going to be covering here on the show in great detail with our guests, but also with Obama signing that March 16th executive order that takes over control of the farms and the livestock and the seeds, the farming equipment, the food processing equipment, just seizing control over that.
	We saw the member Senate bill last year, what was it, 501, the Food Safety and Modernization Act, that is still set to unleash a wave of inspectors all across the country to come in and start fining people and arresting people for growing gardens and having the wrong setup in their garden, in their home garden, in their farm situation.
	And then this story, we're going to cover this today, the city of Roswell, Georgia,
	A total abuse of government power that led to the death of Andrew Wordy's.
	Andrew was a backyard chicken farmer.
	He is now dead, having taken his life after being abused and tormented by the regulators there in the city of Roswell.
	This just makes me so sick because this is a guy I think we could have helped if we had known about this.
	Remember, you've heard the saying, InfoWars saves lives, right?
	You know that.
	Infowars covered Julie Bass, the Michigan gardener who was facing jail time.
	Charges were dropped.
	Infowars and Natural News also especially covered Mary Ann Godboldo, the Detroit, Michigan mother who refused to drug her daughter with psychiatric drugs and then was subjected to a SWAT team raid.
	All the charges were dropped against her, even though they allege that she fired a warning shot at the police to try to defend her home and defend her daughter.
	They dropped the charges.
	Why?
	Because of the public attention brought to the issue.
	But this man in Roswell, Georgia, Andrew Werdes, is dead today.
	Because we didn't know about him.
	Because we couldn't get to him quickly enough.
	We couldn't bring attention to this issue quickly enough.
	We couldn't bring attention to the bureaucrats there at the city to tell them to stop their tyranny.
	To stop what they're doing.
	To stop bullying these innocent citizens to the point where they feel like they have nothing to lose and they want to kill themselves.
	And this man did kill himself, Andrew Wordy's.
	He's dead today because of what these bureaucrats in Roswell, Georgia did to him.
	And we're going to go into more detail about that on the show today.
	And it really, I get incensed about this because we are under assault in America.
	And what we saw there in Roswell, Georgia, was this example of what I called right here on the Alex Jones Show last year, trickle-down tyranny.
	Which was when the federal government becomes tyrannical and oppressive, then those ideas, those dark evil philosophies of stealing people's freedoms and oppressing the people and laughing about it and having fun as the people suffer, those ideas trickle down into the local municipalities.
	They get down to the state level, they get down to the local county level and the city level, and then those bureaucrats think, well we can act like little devils too!
	That we can just oppress people, and we can use our sick power, their ego-tripping, egomaniac power, to go after their political enemies, people that don't bow down to them and lick their boots, and that's what we saw in Roswell, Georgia.
	And that's why that man is dead today.
	And we see it over and over again.
	Here's a piece out of Courthouse News Service right here.
	A woman claims cops ran off with her baby at the hospital.
	She was waiting for a hospital nurse to find someone to remove the hospital identification bracelet from the baby as a last step before leaving the hospital.
	And then the police officers there, this is Maryland, the MPD officers appeared and quote, forcibly separated her from her baby.
	I think?
	I don't know.
	We saw that in Pennsylvania just, what, 10 days ago.
	A mother was forced out of the hospital.
	She had to sleep in her car in a Walmart parking lot all night long so that she could then come in every few hours and breastfeed her baby, which the hospital staff and the CPS staff allowed her to breastfeed.
	Oh, because they're so generous.
	After stealing her baby and after forcing the baby to be vaccinated against the wishes and the will of the mother, they then allowed her to come back in so that she could breastfeed.
	Oh, aren't they so gracious?
	Yeah, how wonderful these people are.
	But these are the overriding themes of what we are seeing in America today.
	We're seeing runaway oppression, tyranny, intimidation of the people by agents of the government, both state and local and at the city level, as we mentioned.
	And then we're seeing this chemical assault at the same time.
	So these two themes, I want you to keep these in your mind.
	As you listen to the Alex Jones Show today, we're going to see how these themes weave throughout the stories, the news, the narratives, the guests that we have on today.
	In every one of these cases, you're going to see these two themes becoming even more and more apparent in your mind, because this is what's happening.
	An assault on our freedoms, a destruction of our economy, takeover of our farms and food, and a complete government takeover of your individual rights as parents,
	And your individual liberties, just as an individual, just as a person.
	I'm a little angry today.
	As you can probably tell.
	Look, I like to come in here and do satire from time to time.
	We do jokes sometimes.
	We make fun of the global elite and the New World Order.
	Things are getting so serious.
	I can't even get into that space anymore.
	I can't find humor right now.
	I'm sorry.
	I don't know.
	All I feel is outrage at what's going on.
	I hope and pray that we're not going to descend into some kind of violence.
	And we're going to have Patrick Henningsen on in the second hour.
	He's an Infowars.com reporter.
	And he's going to be talking to us about the escalation of the so-called race war.
	And it just pains my heart to hear the talk out there of the Black Panthers and these people out there, the Al Sharptons and the Jesse Jacksons, who are spewing hate speech and inciting hatred and inciting the kind of violence that they claim to be against.
	And they're inciting it!
	And if white people were out there, or radio hosts like myself or Alex were saying those things on the radio, they'd be arrested immediately!
	Why is it okay for one group to say those things, but not another group?
	Why can't we all just chill out?
	I mean, we're all 99.8% genetically identical!
	We're all brothers and sisters, literally!
	It's not black versus white.
	You know what it is?
	It's the people versus the power elite, versus the corporate controllers, versus the government controllers, and they know that they win when they get you and I and people of different skin colors and people of different religions to fight against each other and start a shooting war between each other.
	They win!
	The globalists win!
	And that's why you can't be manipulated by it!
	You've got to stay calm.
	You've got to maintain your emotional control.
	Don't pull out the guns just because you have them.
	We've got to de-escalate this situation.
	In every case here on the Alex Jones Show, you've heard Alex and others call for non-violence, for peaceful resolution and restoration of law and restoration of the Bill of Rights and restoration of basic human dignity.
	That's what we need in America today, not more race wars.
	Stay with us.
	We're going to cover more news right here straight ahead.
	This is Mike Adams on the Alex Jones Show.
	We'll be right back.
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	Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show on Tuesday, April 10th, 2012.
	We are fired up here at the InfoWars studios in Austin, Texas.
	And guess what?
	We're joined right now via phone by Alex Jones himself.
	Alex, are you on the phone with us?
	You were just so on fire in the last segment.
	I had to call in because you're absolutely right.
	But the reason we're getting hit from every angle is because we're more aware of it now.
	And because the enemy knows that we're waking up and is desperate to clamp back down on us.
	But I just wanted to say this.
	When you mentioned the article of him taking the woman's baby, I mean that was in the news.
	It happens all the time now, for not vaccinating.
	Folks, you have to understand, there is no law.
	The police are so brainwashed by Child Protective Services that it's just a family planning slash eugenics group set up in the U.S.
	around 1950.
	It's outside of the regular courts and all over the place they're taking children and vaccinating in public schools during the H1N1 three and a half years ago.
	We were getting reports from parents everywhere in Alabama, Texas, New York, California.
	They were shooting their kids up and then it came out.
	That indeed, oh, it's an accident we shot up hundreds of kids whose parents had said no, with the H1N1 on record that made them sick and reduced their immunity and had all these extra viruses in it.
	I mean, all that's come out.
	All that's been admitted.
	So it's a hoax that it's good for you.
	It's a hoax that it's the law.
	But if parents don't know what they're doing, or they think you're poor and ignorant, you're black, Hispanic, white, doesn't matter what color you are, Asian, but they think you're poor and ignorant, they call in police.
	We believe this is a bad parent because they won't vaccinate, even though there's no law.
	And the state takes your child, shoots it up with a bunch of stuff.
	I mean, understand, we're now into 1 in 50, 1 in 60 or so, depending on the actuary, with autism.
	We are a society collapsing.
	There's a video report I did up on InfoWars.com last night when I was on RT, where I broke down the fact that the Club of Rome
	We're good to go.
	Alex, there's another element to this too.
	Remember, when the state steals your child and vaccinates that child, they have their vaccine courts where you can't take it to a regular court.
	You can't make a claim, but the damage is on your shoulders as the parents.
	You have to pay for the vaccine damage.
	We're good to go.
	And others, and it's real, and it's happening, and in closing, the system is getting desperate to be publicly having NBC edit tapes to make George Zimmerman sound racist, to have the Black Panthers, the new Black Panthers saying, we're angry there's not a race war.
	Get it going!
	The system is desperate to get us fighting with each other because the bankers want to sit offshore and rob us.
	The enemy is Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan and crony capitalism.
	It's the opposite of free markets.
	They are the enemy.
	That's the problem.
	That's who's setting this up.
	That's who's pushing this whole thing.
	That's the problem.
	And so the system knows that this is all coming to a head.
	And in closing, that Patrick Henningsen article that's at InfoWars.com, because he's a real journalist like you over at National News,
	He has talked to the source inside the prosecutor's office and said the decision has been made not to.
	Even try to go to the grand jury and you know try and it's going to be a no bill even if it does and that the media knows that and is still trying to play it up so when it comes out there's a bunch of violence.
	That is criminal and that's what the whole New World Order prestitute media does.
	When Nightline comes to visit me or MSNBC or the Southern Poverty Law Center writes articles they say we're inciting violence when it's the opposite.
	This is the hoax and the fraud of
	We're good.
	A race war in this nation to play us off against each other.
	This is such a giant magnitude.
	And Mike Adams, I'm so honored to have you sitting in for me.
	You did such an amazing job.
	God bless you.
	I know you've got some more news coming back from break, and then one of the guests has been persecuted.
	But this is real, folks.
	The government
	He's trying to force inoculations on children and taking them away when there's no law.
	That's kidnapping.
	And that shows how brazen these crooks are and how far this tyranny's gone.
	But they only do it to folks they think are poor and ignorant, showing the premeditated evil of this, ladies and gentlemen.
	So speak out and expose it, Mike Adams.
	Thank you, Alex.
	No, you're exactly right.
	You're right.
	You're 100% on target with that.
	Look, the system attacks you, Alex, when you call for restoring the Bill of Rights.
	Somehow they equate that with calling for violence.
	That's absurd.
	Yet they allow these race wars to escalate and escalate, leading to shootings and killings that they know are going to play in their favor.
	They're the ones pushing violence.
	We're going to keep telling the truth right here on the Alex Jones Show.
	Stay with us.
	We'll be right back.
	We're on the march, the empire's on the run.
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	Thanks for staying with us here on the Alex Jones Show.
	This is Mike Adams, the Health Ranger, filling in.
	I'm the editor of NaturalNews.com, where today, in fact, we have a special InfoWars edition of news posted there.
	I hand-selected all that news for today.
	To just really support the InfoWars mission.
	In fact, we've started to use Aaron Dyke's research as a source in our own reporting.
	Aaron Dyke's, Kurt Nimmo, Paul Watson, the amazing InfoWars.com news team.
	They are generating just amazing news, for example, about the paralysis being caused by the vaccines in India.
	Even though India has been free of polio, now the nation is suffering from widespread paralysis caused by the vaccines themselves.
	That was a story by Aaron Dykes and we have cited Aaron Dykes as a source on that.
	So there's a lot of cross-pollination going on between InfoWars and Natural News as we all try to cover this and bring you the information that can help restore liberty.
	Now, in this segment, by the way, we do have James Stewart joining us in just a minute.
	He is the Rawsome Foods founder, one of the founders, the operator there, who was thrown in jail, tortured by LA County.
	There's a lot more to that story.
	You probably heard much
	He's going to be talking to us today about a lot more, about what his experience being intimidated and being arrested and tortured by the bureaucrats there in L.A.
	County and Ventura County, what that means for the nation at large.
	He's got first-hand experience and is going to lend us some insight into what that means for the future of America.
	But real quickly, check this out.
	You know how you collapse the honeybee populations?
	You feed them corn syrup laced with pesticides.
	That's the additional news that's come out.
	And in fact, in order to, remember I was talking about these pesticides, these neonicotinoids is the class of pesticides that has been found yet again to collapse honeybee populations.
	The way that they simulated that collapse in the lab was to feed the bees corn syrup.
	With that chemical in it.
	There you go.
	Check out more stories about that on InfoWars.com, by the way.
	I know they're posting stories right now as we speak.
	I want to bring in James Stewart with a quick background.
	Just so you know, James Stewart is the Rawsome Foods guy.
	He's been called the California Milkman by the judge that reduced his bail from the $1 million level down to $100,000.
	He spent eight days lost in the L.A.
	County Jail System.
	They sort of lost him.
	in the system.
	They flooded his jail cell with raw sewage.
	They subjected him to hypothermia, to denial of food, basic starvation, to involuntary medical procedures and tests, had him shackled in chains.
	And what is his crime?
	He was distributing food, distributing food to infants and children.
	Many mothers there in California
	We're using Rossum as a distribution point for the raw goat's milk that they were feeding their babies because they couldn't breastfeed.
	So we're talking about basic nutrition for humanity.
	We're talking about basic human rights.
	And they destroyed James' food distribution point, and he now faces many years potentially in prison.
	The case is still pending against him.
	He joins us by phone.
	Thank you, James Stewart, for having the courage to speak out and join us once again here on the Alex Jones Show.
	Are you with us?
	Good morning, James.
	I hope you're fired up, man, because I don't know about you, but I'm sick of the oppression.
	I'm sick of the way they treat farmers and people like you who are providing real food to real mothers and real infants in America.
	I've just had it.
	And I want to be an optimist long term, but in the short term, it just feels like we're all under attack.
	What are your thoughts on what's happening in America today based on what has happened to you personally?
	First thing I want to say is since when did being involved with food and on top of that high quality food become an act of terrorism?
	I mean really that's...
	Really the question that we asked for a long time when we were initially under attack from different sources you know who's authorizing it and for what purpose and of course we still don't have a real answer although as you know many people who admit there might be some new people on here as well a couple years ago in Massachusetts there was another food club that was closed and basically the FDA who was sued had to answer their
	We're good to go.
	I remember that statement by the FDA.
	Shocking.
	That we don't even own our own bodies, in essence.
	In fact, remember the FDA has gone after women who are pumping breast milk to sell it to other women who can't breastfeed, so they're helping to save a child.
	They're being intimidated by the FDA.
	The FDA basically says you don't even own your own body fluids.
	It's insane.
	And you know, we see it every day.
	It's not just with Rossum or, you know, Farm to Fork or, you know, Hershberger or all the other people out there.
	They're doing it now with pig farmers and the state of Michigan.
	And I mean, it's everywhere.
	And so at this point, it's hard to understand why people can't actually see that their actual freedom of choice is being removed.
	Well, I think part of that, let's remember that the mainstream media hasn't really even covered your story.
	I mean, did the Washington Post, even the L.A.
	Times, they didn't report how you were tortured in the L.A.
	County Jail.
	They didn't report that at all.
	So I think the mainstream person out there who's watching CNN or Fox News or whatever, especially since they canceled the best show on there, Judge Napolitano,
	It's watered down now and the people don't see what's really happening.
	So it's like how can we even expect the mainstream people out there to have an understanding of the reality of what's going on?
	I completely agree.
	The mainstream media is, uh, I don't think they're asleep.
	I think they're part of the problem, as you and I both know.
	So, you know, at this point, by the way, Rossum is gone and the property has now been returned to vacant land.
	So all of the so-called illegal structures and the community has now been completely wiped out.
	No, James, I got it.
	You know what?
	You know what your problem is, James?
	You're not black enough.
	If you were black, and you were running Rawsome Foods, and they came after you with guns, the entire African-American community would be up in arms over it.
	You're too white!
	That's the problem, James.
	You're too white so the media won't cover it.
	You got that?
	Yeah, well, you know, Mike, I hate to bring, and I just refuse to bring race into anything because, you know, Rossum was a community in which was open to everybody, and it didn't matter who you were, what you ate, or anything else, and that's the way I still want it.
	And, you know, I don't know if what you said is true.
	It probably is a little bit, but I'd rather not, you know, bring up that subject because I'd rather be inclusive.
	Well no, you're exactly right.
	I was not trying to exclude anyone.
	My point was that the media is very selective in reporting who is being oppressed.
	So a white guy like you selling raw milk gets no media attention.
	But if an African-American had been running that operations and sheriffs came in and put them in handcuffs like they did you and tortured you in the jail and put guns or brought guns to the scene, then that would have been made into a much bigger issue.
	Let's be honest about it.
	I probably can't disagree with you, Mike, and that's one of the other divisions that are going on out there.
	They want people to be divided so they can't form a beautiful alliance with each other, and I appeal to everybody, especially in the industry that we're in, the health, alternative health industry, whatever you want to call it, I appeal to people not to fight each other, but to join forces with each other, even if you
	Respectfully disagree with the person that you are in competition with.
	That's the main reason why corporations are basically probably behind all of this is because they're trying to eliminate the competition that you and I both know that sales of pasteurized dairy products, pharmaceuticals and whatnot are in the decline.
	Why they're in the decline is people have decided to take charge of their own health.
	Yes.
	I agree with you completely, James, and in fact, you know I wrote a story last week about freedom is based on tolerance, that we have to de-escalate violence, that we have to be inclusive of other people's views and other people's behaviors, other people's choices, even if we don't agree with them.
	So I know you and I are on the same page with that.
	I'm just, I'm a little bit angry at the complete
	Unfair treatment of a person like you being, who was so oppressed, who was so mistreated, who's now, even now, facing decades in prison, potentially, and a total media blackout on it.
	Because, I guess, what, your story doesn't fit their agenda.
	I get it, Mike.
	And I myself, you know, I'm appreciative of you and that article, by the way, in which we have to have tolerance of others, you know, otherwise we don't have freedom at all.
	And that was a very well-written article, my friend, and I really appreciate it.
	Well, let me take a deep breath here, man, because...
	Ultimately, I know you and I are both optimists.
	I know you and I both believe in restoring freedom, restoring the republic.
	Let's talk about that for a second.
	You and I were on the phone just the other day talking about the difference between a democracy and a republic.
	There's a film out there on YouTube that explains that.
	I think it's only a 10-minute film.
	It's very important.
	James, what are your thoughts on why we need a republic and the restoration of law to put these tyrants in check so they can't just run rampant over everybody?
	Well, first of all, real law.
	I mean, a republic is based on the rule of law.
	And, you know, that's what most people don't know, but they're actually now, they, whatever, the other force out there, they're actually trying to make people like myself and you and Alex Jones and others look like anarchists, when we're actually just the opposite.
	We're totally into, you know, government and the right form of government that's controlled by laws, of course.
	But when they get out of hand with what they're done now,
	This is not, you know, we've become again what many other countries around the world for thousands of years have become, and that's an oligarchy and whatnot where a group of people are controlling it, and it's not a republic.
	People are not protected any longer, and a republic, if you actually go online and you just type into YouTube, democracy versus republic, the first video on there is amazing.
	It's so well done, you know, that it informs us about
	How it all really works and what's going on in the idea of government.
	And I urge people to educate themselves, but you know, right now I think that people need to stand up.
	I think people are in fear, Mike, and I'm hoping that they'll get over their fears because, you know, they're only creating their own demise by not putting anything into action.
	And I don't mean that, you know, meanly or whatnot to people, but, you know, that's the reason why.
	You know, Ben Franklin said,
	You know, I gave you a republic if you can keep it.
	Now, why did he use the word if?
	Well, maybe he was suspect even from the beginning whether people would actually take charge and responsibility for keeping the republic and as we view now, it's not happening.
	Well, he was a student of history.
	He saw what happens when power always gets corrupted, always becomes more centralized.
	Everybody in a position of power or every organization of power, whether it's a government or a union or a city council, every body of power wants to grab more power.
	It's actually like a nation of cancer tumors running around.
	Cancer tumors work the same way.
	They try to bring in blood vessels and bring in more nutrients so they can grow and become more powerful.
	So we're looking at a cancerous government.
	The ruling over the people without honoring the rule of law that's set out in the Bill of Rights in the Republic.
	Yeah, well you know, when they start calling people like myself terrorists, and I never use the word myself, but sovereigns, and you know, anytime that they can grab a hold of a term or a word and use it against us because one,
	One person out there who claimed he was decided to do something in violence, which I never advocate at all, then they can use that word.
	So, you know, we have to be careful as a mass of people not to actually do things.
	I don't believe in violence.
	I believe in non-violence.
	So, you know, I believe that all we have to do is take back the power that we so unwillingly allowed to not, you know, that we don't want to take responsibility, you know.
	I completely agree with you.
	All Rossum was was a community of people, like-minded to computing, a community of people that wanted to take the opportunity to obtain things that they couldn't find anywhere else.
	Now why is that?
	And by the way, your comment about Judge Napolitano's show, Freedom Watch, being taken off is really suspect.
	You and I both know that.
	He did an excellent job and I hope that he's back on someplace else.
	Yeah, well, he was clearly getting very close to the target, right?
	Because that kind of... the power in his voice and the issues that he was willing to cover is probably what got him kicked off the air.
	But I want to get back to the sovereign citizen issue, because when...
	When LA County took you into custody there and threw you in jail there, they then took you into a little room and had a mini interrogation of you, as I recall you relating to me, and then they accused you of claiming that you were a sovereign citizen and then put an armband on you, which of course echoes right back to Nazi Germany and the way those prisoners were treated there before they were hauled off to the gas chambers, and then you were subjected to extra torture, extra chains and shackles around your waist because you had this armband.
	Is that not correct, James?
	It is exactly correct, and I never mentioned the word at all.
	But no, that's what they did.
	And so they put a red armband, which meant I was a danger to the community.
	We're not talking about the community outside the jail.
	We're talking about they were saying that I was a danger to the community inside the jail.
	Right, like you, the milkman, are more dangerous than the murderers and rapists that were also in there?
	Really?
	Yep.
	The gangbangers?
	Yep.
	Unbelievable.
	Yeah, it was.
	You know, I just find it ludicrous, but you know that it just shows you.
	I'm sharing these things with people so they understand that this is now happening to people out there.
	You know, I'm a perfect example.
	So, you know, I share those things without any, you know, try to not exaggerate at all.
	Yeah, they shackled me and chained me to a bench for like six hours in the medical pod.
	In the beginning, there was a nice
	I think so.
	Yeah, I think so.
	Well, a little bit of mercy for you there by one of the prison guards.
	I've been interviewing small farmers around Texas, by the way.
	That hasn't come out yet, so I don't want to give away that whole story.
	But people cited your story, James, as a reason that they were afraid to start selling raw dairy.
	I'm announcing this for the first time on national radio.
	I own dairy goats now.
	In fact, I milked goats before I came into the show this morning.
	We've got Nigerian dwarf goats that have super sweet milk and we milk them twice a day and they're just amazing little creatures.
	Just a joy to be around and I'm getting actual milk nutrition.
	I'm actually starting to drink raw milk again because I haven't consumed milk for a long time, a decade or more.
	And I can't, when I'm milking these goats and I'm seeing this milk come out, I can't imagine that this is a criminal substance if I go barter it with my neighbor.
	I can't imagine that I could be thrown in jail for this substance.
	And then I talked to these other farmers around Texas and they say they're afraid to sell it.
	They don't want to get involved because they don't want to go to jail.
	So there is a suppression effect happening because of what they did to you.
	Do you think, James, that's part of the reason why they're trying to make such a big deal out of your case?
	I absolutely do.
	I think they want to make examples of people so they will force people into not wanting to move into a direction that their actual creativity is
	Stay with us, James.
	We've got to take a quick break here.
	We'll be right back on the Alex Jones Show with more on food freedom with James Stewart.
	Stay with us.
	We'll be right back.
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	This is Mike Adams, the health ranger, filling in for Alex today, who actually called in and joined us for a few minutes in the last segment.
	We're talking with James Stewart, the founder of Rawsome Foods.
	Rawsome is now completely disassembled.
	It is gone.
	So Ventura County has succeeded temporarily in their mission to destroy a food distribution center and deny parents the right to acquire milk that they already own.
	Because they own a portion of the farm, a portion of the cow, a portion of the goat, and so on.
	I want to mention a note here, as James joins us, about authenticity.
	Authenticity is crucial when you decide where to get your information, who to believe, who to listen to.
	And these people in Washington, these people at the state capitals, and these people, these bureaucrats who live in these shining cities like out of Hunger Games, and they live in their offices all day long, and they never get out in the real world, they don't know what real food is, okay?
	Right now, you are listening to James Stewart and myself, who are two people who are intimately and authentically involved in raising our own food.
	I really do milk my goats.
	I really milked them this morning before I came here.
	I don't just say that, okay?
	I'll send pictures, or I'm gonna shoot a video, actually, to show you what terrorists these little goats are, according to the FDA.
	But we don't just say these things.
	We are involved in raising our own food as much as we can.
	It is authentic.
	We know what we're talking about.
	James,
	What do you think about those people who sit in their palaces and comment on you and talk about how you should be criminalized even though it's people like you who are producing the food that keeps them alive?
	Well, this is very true.
	And by the way, I want to correct something.
	It is the county of Los Angeles that originally and most powerfully, most completely is the one that eliminated Ross.
	Okay, my bad.
	Sorry.
	LA.
	Well, just what you think about authentic food and how it's the farmers across America who are feeding the tyrants who are oppressing their liberties.
	It is pretty insane, isn't it?
	I mean, you know, the people who actually... the blood, sweat, and tears come from the people who are actually involved with their hands and doing something.
	You know, quite a few times people complain...
	They contended that they actually helped start Rossum.
	I won't mention names and whatnot, but they never put a finger into it.
	So to me, it reminds me of the same thing that whoever you want to call them, the bureaucracy, the other side, whatever.
	I don't even understand.
	And by the way, I have a really interesting piece of news for you that happened when I was dismantling Rossum over the last three or four days.
	And that was this.
	I was at the last stage of removing some of the shipping containers on the lot.
	And a black and white unit showed up, and I won't tell from what city, and I thought they were coming for me again.
	The police?
	Yeah, the police.
	Instead, they went next door to the coffee shop, and I happened to be standing on the sidewalk about ten minutes later, and the two officers came out.
	One of them walked up to me and said, Are you James Stewart?
	He said, Aren't you James Stewart?
	I said, Yes.
	And I was thinking, Now what?
	You probably don't know me because I never came into your place dressed in uniform, but I was one of your members.
	Right.
	And he said, what I think has happened here is a travesty.
	Now, I'm not going to mention his name or what city he works for or whatnot, but that just shows you that there are people actually, there were many people inside government that actually were members of Rossum.
	There were, you know, attorneys and medical doctors and you name it, the list was long.
	Hey James, we're out of time, believe it or not.
	I'm going to, sorry to interrupt, but I got to thank you for being here today.
	Is there a website, real quick, where people can stay informed about Rossum?
	You know, more through you than anybody else, Mike.
	Alright, well, we'll keep publishing the stories then, man.
	Naturalnews.com and Infowars.com.
	A lot gets posted there as well.
	Stay with us.
	We'll be right back with Patrick Henningsen ahead on the next hour and a lot more breaking news on the Alex Jones Show.
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	This is Mike Adams, the health ranger, the editor of Natural News.
	Filling in for Alex today, we just completed an interview with James Stewart, founder of Raw Awesome Foods, about food freedom and much more.
	I'm going to give you some more breaking news right now, or comments on some of the news that's out there.
	The Red Cross calls for drug decriminalization.
	This is part of the ongoing wave, the momentum of international and national calls for decriminalizing medical marijuana in particular, and also just small quantities of recreational marijuana, regardless of what you think about marijuana.
	And by the way, on the record, I am not a recreational drug user and have never been.
	That's right, never.
	I don't even drink alcohol, but that's just my choice.
	What's clear from this war on drugs is that it really just benefits the prison system.
	It benefits the police.
	It benefits that whole system that keeps people suppressed.
	It does not, in fact, treat drug users for their health, their medical condition, which is an addiction.
	So if we want to overcome this drug abuse, which is widespread across America,
	Then, of course, we've got to start treating this like a health and medical condition, and not just a criminal situation.
	Now, speaking of drug addiction, here's another story.
	The U.S.
	DEA has now extended its crackdown on prescription painkillers to Walgreens pharmacies.
	Yes, the DEA raided a Walgreens store in Jupiter, Florida, and it found that
	Literally two-thirds of all the painkillers that were prescribed in that zip code were prescribed by this one pharmacy.
	Gee, you think someone's overdoing the prescriptions there a little bit?
	You bet they are.
	The truth is more people are addicted to prescription drugs than recreational drugs.
	Certainly a lot more than marijuana.
	And the truth is, a lot of the prescription drugs are just different patented synthetic variations of what used to be street drugs.
	And another truth is that the psychiatric drugging of soldiers, which is causing just massive problems.
	And guys, could you bring up that infographic, by the way, on the psych drugging of soldiers?
	We created that.
	It's very informative.
	But that is just another way for big pharma to make more money by using human bodies as a profit generating mechanism.
	So for those of you on the radio, you can't see this, but on PrisonPlanet.tv, you can see this infographic we created over at Natural News.
	This is the psych-drugging of U.S.
	soldiers, and it breaks it down with the statistics.
	We have over 100,000 active-duty soldiers on mind-altering drugs right now.
	The side effects are suicide, accidents, violence, and drug addiction.
	A 300% increase in illegal drug use also in the U.S.
	military.
	Over a three-year period beginning or ending in 2008.
	We've got a third of the US Army is now on drugs We're talking people in the field when they send them out into the field.
	They give them a 180 day supply of mind-altering psychiatric drugs to take into the field with them You think they you think the soldiers don't barter that and trade that back and forth of course they do
	They're all into that, and it's being pushed on them, even when the soldiers don't want it.
	They may go to the VA hospital and say, I want to be treated like a human being.
	I want to be treated with dignity.
	I help protect the freedoms of this country.
	Give me some medical assistance.
	And you know what they say?
	Shut up and take these pills.
	Shut up and take the Xanax, or these painkillers, or these psychotropic, mind-altering drugs.
	Go home and stop complaining.
	And then they go home, and occasionally one of them gets violent.
	And shoots somebody, or kills themselves, or causes a problem, and then they blame the soldiers.
	They blame the soldiers, and the press doesn't even blame the pharmaceutical industry.
	But again, kudos to the LA Times for pointing out the widespread use of those drugs by the military today.
	And Houston!
	It's illegal to feed the homeless now.
	How's that for compassion?
	You can't even feed the homeless people if you want to.
	Oh man, we've got a lot more coming up.
	Patrick Henningsen will be joining us in this upcoming segment to talk about the escalation of the race wars in America.
	We'll try to, in the next hour, sorry, we'll try to control ourselves here.
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	Big Brother, Mainstream Media, Government Cover-Ups.
	You want answers?
	Well, so does he.
	He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
	And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
	This is the Alex Jones Show.
	Mike Adams, Health Ranger, filling in for you today.
	I want to thank Alex for the invite to fill in, and I want to thank you, the listeners, for allowing me to continue to fill in for Alex from time to time when he invites me.
	I really appreciate all your positive comments out there.
	I hope I'm doing a good job for you, working here on the front lines of liberty, trying to bring the issues to the forefront.
	That matter for our collective future.
	I want to take calls from you today.
	So let me give out the number here.
	That is 800-259-9231.
	And those are going to be calls from anyone.
	So open lines.
	Please call in if you have a comment, a question, you'd like to talk about anything that we are covering today.
	The overriding theme today is America under assault by chemicals and our farms and food freedoms are under assault by our government.
	You can talk about Obama's executive order from March 16th, the government seizure,
	I don't think so.
	Well, just yesterday I think he focused on this.
	MIT predicts half of humanity could be cold in a post-industrial crash.
	Alex misspoke and cited that as a 90% reduction.
	It's actually about a 50% reduction.
	He called me to ask me to clarify that with all of you today.
	The chart is right here.
	This is an article by Aaron Dykes on Infowars.com, and it is true that the MIT scientists have conducted a study in which they predict a global collapse of the population right here, beginning here, this dotted line.
	At 2030, following a global economic collapse.
	Alright, so we've got other lines that they say represent global pollution, industrial output per capita, food per capita.
	Notice that the food decline precedes the population decline.
	So first, right here, the food collapses, that's this dotted line right there, for those of you watching on PrisonPlanet.tv, and then the population collapse soon follows.
	Well, why would we have a food collapse?
	The MIT scientists have their own theories about that, but of course, you, as InfoWars listeners, you probably know even more about why the food supply might collapse, and those reasons include the genetic pollution of our agricultural system, the unleashing of GMOs, the rise of resistant superweeds that take over farms,
	Now the destruction of local farming and food production centers all across America by tyrannical, out-of-control, maniac governments.
	You know, food diversity.
	It's funny, in America they talk about strategic oil reserves and the diversity of being able to produce oil in Alaska, produce oil in the Gulf, produce oil in Texas, importing a lot of our oil, but being able to have national security by producing oil domestically, right?
	That makes sense to everybody.
	Well, what about producing food domestically, and not just in the hands of the corporate food producers?
	Food that is produced in your local town, in your neighborhood or nearby, where you can drive out to a farmer's market and actually buy some basic food, such as raw, fresh milk from a local farmer.
	All of that is under attack, so that is a national strategic resource that the country, that the government doesn't seem to care about.
	It's funny, isn't it?
	You know, the government is into storing ammunition, storing guns.
	The government stores food and medicine and communications gear, but then they're destroying the food production and going against guns and ammunition for the people.
	It's a total contradiction.
	So you see how that works?
	What's good for the government to survive hard times makes you a potential terrorist if you dare do the same thing.
	So, just another contradiction out there.
	But it's true, the MIT study is talking about a global collapse.
	Now we've got some callers on the line.
	Let's see who's on the line!
	And thank you for calling John in California.
	You're on the air with the Health Ranger.
	Go ahead, please.
	Hey, Mike Adams, longtime listener, first-time caller.
	The reason why I'm calling is to discuss Fukushima real quick.
	I've got many things to bring out on it.
	One, my girlfriend was there recently, about two weeks ago, came back with some illness, nosebleeds.
	She's reported she's never had nosebleeds her whole life.
	So then I gave her some kombucha tea.
	That seemed to kind of have an effective result past that.
	Yes.
	Wow.
	Um, then I thought, well, who else has seen this?
	I contacted surf shops down here.
	Um, they hadn't heard the news, so I printed it out and gave it down to them.
	Then I thought, I'm going to contact local government.
	I called the mayor's office in Newport Beach, um, and they never got back to me.
	I called the city government here in Laguna Beach.
	I talked to, uh, Verna Rollinger, who's the city councilwoman, and I talked to the mayor as well.
	They hadn't seen the article, so they were appreciative on that.
	However, Verna Rollinger said that she was going to actually print out that piece off of E&E News and then hand it
	In a discussion at a meeting that she was going to meet with Senator Dianne Feinstein about the San Onofre plant that may be shut, may be still open.
	Well, what you're getting at here, what you're describing is this massive media cover-up.
	And you're right.
	When the radiation is falling onto North America and hitting California and hitting the coast, there's a total blackout on that information.
	They even changed the meters themselves.
	They changed the EPA regulations.
	When you bring this information to people, John, are they paying attention to it then?
	Are they taking action on it?
	I'm still kind of waiting to hear back.
	I don't know.
	And I feel like there's a slow wheel turning on that.
	So what I decided to do was go this weekend, because I talked to them on Friday, just a few days ago.
	So then I started doing research on this whole matter, going, look, free choice.
	We have free choice.
	If nothing else is going to be done about this mess,
	You know, whatever.
	The government, everyone else is focused on other things.
	Their own distractions.
	I don't need to be distracted.
	I know what's happening.
	You know what's happening.
	Your listeners know what's happening.
	So we're getting Dose.
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	The one thing I want to talk about is health.
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	Hey Mike, this is CJ from Michigan.
	I just want to inform everybody, I've done some research here.
	We know we're battling the police here about food freedom.
	I have a garden in my front yard.
	I had it for three years.
	No problems.
	Last year, got a goat.
	Neighbors went ballistic.
	So, I did some research.
	I'm getting beehives, and the bee guy told me, hey, don't worry.
	There's something called Michigan Right to Farm Act.
	Okay?
	Really?
	Look this up.
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	Look this up.
	Michigan Right to Farm Act.
	I'm a little nervous here.
	Hold on.
	You're doing fine.
	No, go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	Okay, so as long as you're practicing the G-A-A-M-P, which stands for the Good...no, Generally Accepted Agricultural Management Practices.
	That's a publication every year by the Michigan State University.
	As long as you're following that, you're protected by this Act.
	And this Act protects everything that has to do with the farm.
	That's sounds, noises, everything.
	And it supersedes any zoning law.
	This is the beauty of this law.
	That's fascinating.
	I didn't know Michigan had that.
	I wonder if other states have that.
	Let me ask you to comment on this, CJ.
	The case in Roswell, Georgia that we're reporting on, and by the way, folks, I don't know if that story is posted on Infowars.com yet, but it is the top story right now on NaturalNews.com.
	It involves Andrew Werdes, the backyard chicken farmer.
	The lawsuit filed against him by the city of Roswell includes this text.
	They declared his property to be a, quote, nuisance property, which they said gave them the right to take it over.
	And I want your comment on this, CJ.
	They said a nuisance property, quote, the property is not kept clean and sanitary and free from all accumulations of offensive matter, including dead organic matter.
	Well, that's just compost, people, kitchen compost.
	Continuing, rubbish, junk, animal intestinal waste, and urine.
	Well, come on, I urinate on my own farm.
	Does that make it a nuisance?
	Animal intestinal waste?
	Doesn't that just mean animal droppings?
	I mean, come on, that's no big deal.
	Mike, do a study on this law.
	It protects all that.
	As long as you're following those practices, you're doing certain things.
	And then this act is so beautiful.
	It was written very broad and inclusive.
	There's no size limitation.
	It was intentionally written like this to protect everyone.
	Now you have to be a firm.
	What is a farm?
	It's someone who actually sells something.
	So all you gotta do is put a little sign out front, eggs for sale.
	You become a farm.
	Well, CJ, but remember, remember, you're citing law.
	You're citing state law, just as we could cite the Bill of Rights and the Constitution, but now these tyrants that exist today, they say, those laws don't matter, we're gonna do whatever we want because we can.
	Because we have the guns.
	Because we're the government tyrants.
	They just nullify
	Exactly, exactly.
	But you know what?
	And everyone says, oh forget about it.
	I'm going to fight.
	You know what?
	I'm going to fight for my rights because if you don't, you lose your rights.
	And the thing is, the thing is about this law is
	It has in the act, if someone calls on you three times, and if the inspector comes out and sees you're following the guidelines, after that, then they become charged.
	We're good.
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	There is breaking news today about a new microchip technology that can locate you to within centimeters, not just on the XY grid, but vertically as well.
	So in other words, if you have one of these chips in your cell phones...
	They will know what floor of an apartment building at which you are residing.
	This is from, well, this is by Paul Joseph Watson posted on InfoWars.com right now, and it's being linked to by Matt Drudge over at TheDrudgeReport.com, so I want to thank Matt for that link.
	The title is, New Microchip Knows Your Location to Within Centimeters.
	Forget a chip in your forehead, the mark of the beast is the cell phone, by Paul Joseph Watson.
	And the MIT Technology Review reports, quote, Broadcom has just rolled out a chip for smartphones that promises to indicate location ultra precisely, possibly within a few centimeters, vertically and horizontally, indoors and out.
	They're saying that this would be useful for shopkeepers and retailers to know when you're walking by so they can then hit you with their personalized advertising messages.
	Didn't we see?
	What was the movie that this was made famous by with Tom Cruise?
	Was it a Philip K. Dick Minority Report?
	That's right.
	That was in Minority Report.
	So, now, of course, you gotta ask, well, how would this shop, how would this retailer know what your preferences are?
	Well, because you've been surfing the internet and Google Cookies have been tracking everything you search for and everything you visit.
	And therefore, if they share that with brick-and-mortar retailers and they can then know your profile the minute you walk by, wouldn't that be weird?
	You're on the internet one day searching for storable food and MREs and then you're walking through the mall with your new microchip cell phone and all of a sudden a billboard in front of you shows an ad, MREs on sale for long-term preparedness and survival.
	And you say, whoa, wait a minute, how did they know that?
	That's the kind of invasion of privacy that we're talking about being made possible by these microchips.
	Not to mention the ability for local police to locate you and have you arrested for whatever reason they might come up with.
	And by the way, we are going to have an interview coming up in the third hour with attorney Dale Carson, the author of Arrest Proof Yourself, who gives you tips and strategies for avoiding being arrested.
	How to handle confrontations with police in a way that keeps your butt out of jail, basically, is what that's all about.
	You know, don't escalate things, for one thing.
	But they could use this microchip to find you and come arrest you.
	So let's say you milk your goat.
	And you have your milk on the internet for sale.
	I'm going to sell milk to people within the zip code or within the city.
	They could then use your cell phone chip to come find you, arrest you, throw you in jail, and have you tortured and chained up and shackled as a quote sovereign citizen because you're crazy to think that you should be able to milk your own goats and offer that milk for sale or trade to your neighbors.
	Pretty amazing, isn't it?
	Coming up, just after this next break, which is still a few minutes away...
	We're going to have an interview with Mark Baker.
	He is the Michigan pig farmer whose entire herd was threatened by the Department of Natural Resources bureaucrats in the state of Michigan.
	They threatened to actually come in and just shoot all the pigs.
	Just open fire on your livestock, even though they're in your fences, they're in your farm.
	You've been farming them for five or six years.
	Some of these guys out there in Michigan have been farming for 10, 20 years, the same kind of breeds.
	State just wants to come in and open fire and use your livestock as target practice.
	Doesn't make any sense, does it?
	But that's what's happening.
	So we're going to talk to Mark Baker about that.
	But before we get to that, I've got a comment about Michigan.
	What is wrong with Michigan bureaucrats?
	What is wrong with these people?
	Remember, this is where Julie Bass was threatened with jail time for growing a garden in Oak Park, Michigan.
	Remember that town?
	And in fact, Alex Jones and Infowars helped publicize that information and get all the charges dropped against Julie Bass.
	We also had the case of Marianne Godboldo in Detroit, remember?
	The Detroit mom who refused to medicate her child and she was assaulted by a SWAT team.
	And guess who spoke out for Marianne Godboldo in addition to her local community?
	Yeah, a couple of white guys.
	Myself and Alex Jones, Natural News and Info Wars, were two of the biggest alternative news sources actually covering that story.
	So, you know, they're just another example of how we speak out for African Americans when we see injustice.
	Anybody out there who thinks that Infowars or Alex is racist, or if they think I'm racist, forget it.
	We stand up for liberty and justice for people of all races and colors and religions and backgrounds.
	Just consistently.
	I can't stand injustice no matter who it's being waged against.
	And in that case, Marianne Godboldo was being set up and SWAT teamed completely irrationally by the state.
	Now what else is happening in Michigan?
	This state just seems to be losing its mind when it comes to farmers.
	So we're going to talk to Mark Baker about that in more detail and try to get a sense of what's happening in Lansing there and why these bureaucrats are running rampant over the rights of citizens.
	But it's about more than just food and farms, it's about
	State bureaucrats could come to your door and your house at any time and take away your children if you don't agree to have them vaccinated or medicated in the way that the state wants you to.
	All that straight ahead on the Alex Jones Show.
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	This is Mike Adams, the Health Ranger, and we'll be right back after this quick message.
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	Coming up in just a couple of minutes, we've got Mark Baker from bakersgreenacres.com.
	He is the Michigan pig farmer whose livestock has been threatened by the state of Michigan.
	But before that, we've got something fun for you here.
	You know that we've had this big discussion about SSRIs and psychiatric drugging of soldiers and all of that going on.
	It's a big deal and finally people are waking up to it.
	Back in 2009, I wrote a song called SSR Lies and in the spirit of the creativity that goes on here at InfoWars where Alex does his parodies and the whole crew, they're super talented, a bunch of musicians here, super creative crew.
	I wanted to play for you about 45 seconds of that song while we're getting our guests online so that you can hear some of what I was talking about back in 2009 that is now becoming more mainstream.
	So go ahead and cue that song for a little bit.
	We're good to go.
	We're good to go.
	Alright, so some of the words there, you got to take your life back, put the knife back down, throw the medication on the ground, because those medical suckers are going to psych that, and if you're speaking your mind, they're going to strike that.
	Those are the words of what you just heard there.
	It might have been a little hard to make out from the song because I wasn't really using that great of a microphone back in 2009.
	That's what we've got to get to in this country.
	We've got to de-escalate the violence.
	We've got to de-escalate the race war.
	We've got to get the drugs out of people's minds, stop the fluoride poisoning of America, stop the GMO poisoning of our crops, stop the electromagnetic poisoning of our brains.
	We've got to be able to retain the consciousness and the awakening and the basic love for humanity and love for life that's going to give us a future in this world.
	And that means throwing the medication away.
	You know, Whitney Houston could probably still be alive today if she wasn't using all those psychiatric drugs or painkillers in her case.
	Heath Ledger is another Hollywood legend who was killed by an overdose of FDA-approved prescription drugs.
	It's a very long list.
	Marilyn Monroe, Elvis Presley, Michael Jackson, their deaths were all caused in part or entirely by FDA-approved painkillers and prescription drugs.
	That is the epidemic that's really haunting us in America today.
	Now joining us to continue our conversation about farming in America is Mark Baker from bakersgreenacres.com.
	He is the Michigan pig farmer that we mentioned earlier.
	Mark, are you with us right now?
	I'm here Mike.
	Thank you Mark for joining us today man.
	It's great to hear from you.
	You're a very courageous American.
	Just want to give a quick background.
	You're an Air Force veteran.
	You've been a farmer there for in Michigan for what five or six years something around that time?
	I got out of the service.
	About eight.
	Okay, 8 years, okay, I didn't know that.
	So, on April 1, you were there at your farm thinking, oh my goodness, the state is going to come murder, slaughter my herd.
	What actually happened that night before April 1 when that regulation was going to kick in?
	Well, we got tipped off on Friday that they were coming, and I called my lawyer and he made a few phone calls.
	The Attorney General in Michigan stepped in and said that there would not be any movement against us until our court case is settled.
	So I had some reassurance, but there's a bit of a trust issue with these guys, so I moved my family off Saturday afternoon anyway, just as a precaution.
	And then I stood from 12 to 12 the next day waiting.
	They didn't show.
	Alright, so you could still be raided at any time under this invasive species order that the DNR in Michigan has actually put into place, correct?
	Yeah, I suppose so.
	I don't see any concrete block to keep them from doing what they want to do.
	They've said they won't, or the Attorney General has said that he's restrained them.
	But isn't this like Obama signing the NDAA that, quote, legalizes secret arrests and secret torture and detainment of American citizens and then saying, well, I won't use it?
	Isn't that similar to what's really happening to you in Michigan?
	So they want to claim they have this power over you, but then they say they will selectively restrain it.
	In your case, because you went public, you made a YouTube video, you have a family that it looks nice on YouTube.
	They don't want to obviously be seen as, you know, raiding your farm.
	But what about all your other friends and neighbors and farmers?
	Are they afraid of being raided?
	Not only are they afraid of it, but they're being aggressively searched as we speak.
	DNR has shown up at a friend of ours, Ron McKendrick, up in Sheboygan, and tried to get on his farm to inspect it.
	What they're looking for is probable cause.
	And he told them, no, get a warrant.
	Well, they came back the next day, and then they trespassed illegally.
	They had binoculars, and they were looking out onto his property to see if they could
	So they're surveilling his farm?
	Yeah, and then they parked down the road, I guess, I'm told it was two trucks, and they were there for two days.
	You would think that they would have something better to do, to stake out actual terrorists, if you could even find any in America?
	I suppose, but, you know, this is the DNR, they are supposed to be just protecting wild animals out in the woods, and clearing trails and things like that.
	Well, let me ask you this, Mark.
	Well, first of all, let me give out your website, bakersgreenacres.com, for those who want to read your blog, who want to see your videos, your ongoing updates, and so on.
	But I want to ask you, as a United States Air Force veteran, someone who put your effort, your life, your time on the line to help protect America and its values and its freedoms, and now here you are being subjected to the threat of having your animals killed at gunpoint by the state in which you are a resident.
	How does that make you feel?
	I think it's a disgrace.
	I think the state government here should really be ashamed of what they're allowing to happen to their citizens.
	It seems to me that there's got to be more to this also because it's not just that they're going to back off selectively in your case.
	That law is still on the books.
	Those bureaucrats have conspired to threaten you and destroy your property and put your livelihood, destroy your livelihood in essence.
	Isn't that a crime or shouldn't it be a conspiracy to destroy the livelihood of an honest, hardworking farmer?
	Well, yeah, in reality it is.
	Because they've leveled a declaratory ruling at us that is unconstitutional and therefore illegal.
	And we're duty-bound as American citizens to disobey orders that are illegal or unconstitutional.
	And then it's their responsibility to try and prosecute us.
	In the prosecution phase, it'll be found out that the orders that they have leveled are unconstitutional.
	And then it will turn on them.
	And the courts will want to know what they are doing and why they are doing this.
	Are you planning on seeking justice through the legal system to hold those accountable in Michigan government who have conspired to destroy your livelihood and slaughter your animals?
	Yes we are.
	A group of us farmers have sued the Michigan DNR and we'll probably go to court with them this summer sometime.
	Have you thought about filing a civil suit that names the specific individuals and attempting to hold them accountable?
	Yes, we have.
	We sued Rodney Stokes, who is the director of the Michigan DNR.
	Will you please keep me posted on the updates on that and I'll share that information with Kurt Nemo and the entire Infowars team.
	See, this is the thing, Mark.
	It is time for the American people, especially the farmers, to stop just laying down and taking it.
	And I don't mean
	There's several legal defense funds out there for farmers to use.
	That's true, Mike.
	We started off with the Farm to Consumer Legal Defense Fund, and they're the ones that got us going on this.
	And they're in place.
	to protect the rights of farmers.
	But the farmers really have to know that a lot of this work they have to do on their own.
	And the first thing they have to do is think about resistance.
	If they're asked to do something that's unconstitutional, unfair, first they have to resist.
	And in our case here, the DNR, if you tell them that they can't come on, there's really nothing more they can do than get a search warrant.
	And I think that if they go to the
	The judge, the county judge, asked for a search warrant to search for illegal pigs.
	I don't think that's going to go over very well.
	That's insane!
	But what we saw, what we just reported on in other breaking news today, the case with Andrew Wordy's in Roswell, Georgia, the bureaucrats there in that city, they kept pushing to try to just fabricate something or find something.
	They had their own culvert clogged up.
	Yeah, I guess so, but I think things are changing.
	I think Americans are getting fed up.
	Like in our case, people have said to me that, oh, you have a problem with the DNR.
	I don't think that's the case.
	I think the DNR has a problem with me.
	Because we're not going to let up on this.
	Ever.
	You know, we're just not going to let up.
	They could do away with the Declaratory Ruling tomorrow, and we would still be on them to find out why this was done, who was behind it,
	You know, where the money goes.
	We know that they're working with Michigan Pork Growers Association, which is the concentrated animal feeding operation outfits that are here in Michigan.
	And those guys definitely want more market share.
	And so they're using the DNR, the strong arms, the small farms.
	Let me mention the Farm to Consumer Legal Defense Fund, because they have done some excellent work in this area.
	Their website is ftcldf.org.
	It's obviously the acronym for their name, Farm to Consumer Legal Defense Fund.
	But it seems like, Mark, what you're doing, and I really love to see your courage in doing this, is you are putting the tyrants on notice.
	And I think that's what we have to do across America.
	Whether it's the farmers, whether it's the milkman in California, whether it's the backyard chicken farmer in Georgia, whether it's the front yard gardener in Oak Park, Michigan, we have to put the bureaucrats on notice and say, we will not be trampled on any longer.
	We have the God-given natural right to grow our own food and to not be interfered with and oppressed by local government tyrants just because they're not into farming and food.
	That's right.
	Hey, and people gotta remember, first of all, they're American citizens.
	There's a lot that goes with being an American citizen.
	There's a lot of privileges with that.
	And then these guys that are trying to push these unconstitutional laws down our throats, they have names, they have faces, they have careers, and they can be sued individually.
	And they will know that that's going to affect their life profoundly, just like they want to affect my life.
	I mean, they don't have a problem with, you know, doing away with half my farming operation.
	Yeah, well, they were going to put you out of business, basically.
	Destroy your entire livelihood.
	Well, they've done it to at least 70 Michigan farmers that have just done away with their herds just because they were afraid.
	And I think that they don't know who they are in being an American citizen.
	They have the Constitution.
	And, you know, people, I've heard, since this has started, I've heard people say, well, the government's just wiping themselves with the Constitution.
	Well, not if you don't let them.
	That's right.
	Your Fourth Amendment right is very clear, and they cannot trespass on you.
	Unless they have a warrant for a probable cause.
	Here in Michigan locally, there's more giving up.
	And that's sad, but Michigan... Alright, I served in the military for 20 years and I served with a lot of people from different services that were from Michigan.
	And Michigan people are very hardcore people.
	They're hard workers, you know, fast runners, hard living people, but they are petrified of their government.
	And I come here to live.
	I'm from Massachusetts.
	I came here to live because this is my wife's home.
	And I'm just amazed at how fearful these people are of their government.
	So I can only assume that it's just been a lifelong operation of instilling fear in these people, especially of the DNR.
	They're petrified.
	Well, that's part of the tactic of government, is to paint people as terrorists, to then run these giant screens in Walmart where you've got Janet Napolitano saying, be afraid of your neighbors, spy on your neighbors, watch what they do.
	If you see something, say something.
	Your neighbor might be a terrorist, they might be planting a bomb.
	No, they just set their purse down on the table for a second.
	It's not a bomb, okay?
	But they've trained, you're right, Mark, they've trained people to be afraid of each other.
	I don't
	A one-tenth of one percent that has had anything negative to say about it.
	It's usually because they misunderstand the law.
	Right.
	They haven't really looked into it.
	I'll tell you something about me.
	It's not the Air Force that put this patriotism in me.
	I'm from New England, and when I was a kid I used to have to walk past a monument that told about a man named Nathan Howe that dropped his plow in the furrow to respond to the Lexington Alarm of April 18th.
	1776 and my grandfather used to tell me about that and here was a guy that that led his plow over to the side and he went back to the farmhouse probably got his gun if he owned one or pitchfork maybe and then went to the Concord Bridge to help the alarm yeah and that was a blockade against Boston the British had blockaded Boston and were
	Allowing people out to get food only if they surrender their firearms.
	Well, it looks like they're trying to control our food, doesn't it?
	I heard a little bit about that, yeah.
	Well, it's right there in the language.
	It was covered here on InfoWars.
	I covered it as well.
	It's right there in plain language, and it's not some throwback to history.
	It's actually reactivated right now in peacetime.
	We've got to go to a break here, Mark, but we'll continue with you on the other side of this break.
	There's a lot more ahead here on the Alex Jones Show.
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	Thank you for being with us.
	We've been focusing a lot of freedom issues related to farmers, food, and much more.
	The bigger picture.
	Mark Baker is joining us right now from BakersGreenAcres.com in Michigan, which for some reason has been the hotbed of a lot of government assaults on individual liberties and rights.
	And I don't, I'm wondering what's in the water in Michigan, but I know it's probably fluoride.
	What do you think, Mark?
	What do you think about your state?
	Why are they so tyrannical with everybody there?
	I don't know.
	It almost seems like Michigan is the place where they test things out.
	They try to see what they can do.
	Exactly what people will take.
	Well, and as you said, most people are taking a lot.
	They're putting up with it.
	It gives me hope, on one hand, to interview you, Mark, and to hear your patriotism and your courage and your understanding of the key concepts of liberty, but then you tell me these things that make me feel kind of down, that a lot of people are surrendering and giving in instead of standing up.
	That doesn't make me feel good.
	Well, yeah, if we look back at history, especially at the Revolution, there was really only 20% of the colonists that resisted King George, and then less than 2% actually picked up arms.
	And it doesn't take a whole lot of people.
	It just depends on the fervor
	Well, you've hit upon it.
	That's exactly right.
	Alex says it all the time.
	A lot of people are just sitting still, doing nothing.
	They don't count.
	The revolution, as you say, was less than 5% of the population, and yet they won because they had it in their hearts.
	They had it in their spirit to protect their liberties.
	Like you, Mark, you're not just fighting for some legal precedent.
	You're fighting for your livelihood.
	You're fighting for your family, for your future.
	That's right.
	And not just mine either, Mike, because
	They're going after, right now it's heritage breeds, the swine that they're going after, but they could just as easily say that certain types of beef are invasive species, or poultry that we like to grow out on pasture is invasive because it hurts the wild birds, something like that.
	We've actually heard those rumblings.
	Oh yeah, that's coming.
	But wasn't the origin of this Invasive Species Act, you actually explained this to me, was originally written by Michigan to prevent the tankers, the big ships, coming into the lake and dumping their ballast water that was full of ocean saltwater creatures that became invasive.
	Wasn't that the original intent behind the law?
	Yes, it was.
	And it's a good law.
	We've really got to protect our natural resources, everybody knows that.
	But to add
	Farm animals onto an invasive species order is just a little over the top, I think.
	Well, but here's where it's going, man.
	You want to know where it's really going, Mark, and all the listeners out there?
	They're going to label humans the invasive species.
	That's what's coming.
	That's what was depicted in Hunger Games, that the people are the invaders, that all the land belongs to the kingship, and that humans are not allowed outside their zones.
	Everything's a green zone, and they take your land.
	I mean, this is part of the story in Roswell, Georgia today.
	Well, let me ask you this, Mark.
	What's ahead for you?
	What's the next step?
	Well, I'm actually heading up to the Upper Peninsula today.
	We're going to have a little strategy meeting with a couple of the other farmers that have chosen to resist.
	And our lawyers and just talk about what our next move is.
	There's going to be some depositions happening and these people from the DNR by name will have to come in and explain the things that they have said.
	These are people that have gone to college and that have made ludicrous statements about how biology works.
	They don't know what a feral pig really is.
	They've said these things, but now they're going to be held accountable in a deposition forum.
	Well, they do.
	Mark, we're out of time.
	I want to thank you for joining us, though.
	Bakersgreenacres.com is the website where you can learn more about Mark and read his blog there.
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	We're already into the third hour on the Alex Jones Show.
	This is Mike Adams, the health ranger, filling in for Alex today.
	Thank you for staying with us.
	We've already covered some fascinating ground on the issues of farm freedom, food freedom, liberty across America.
	We've got a lot more coming up, including an interview with Patrick Henningsen, the Infowars.com reporter, who has some breaking news for us about the escalation of the race war in America.
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	Meanwhile, the mainstream media and many of these other so-called non-profits out there are actually pushing for a race war escalation.
	All of that straight ahead here on the Alex Jones Show, following... well, that starts in the next segment.
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	We've got an interview with Dale Carson.
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	And doesn't cause trouble, alright?
	So, I know that we're all trying to resist tyranny, but that doesn't mean you should mouth off to the state trooper that just pulled you over.
	That's not going to help.
	In many cases, these cops aren't the bad guys.
	All right, the cops are just doing their jobs, and some of them are actually listeners to the show.
	Some of them are actually quite well-informed patriots.
	So we don't want to offend the people, the good cops in the system that are actually trying to help us, the sheriffs and the deputies especially.
	You know, Sheriff Richard Mack has been educating a lot of people.
	We want to teach you how to properly interface with those individuals in law enforcement so that you don't
	Tick them off and end up being punished as a result, especially if you're not guilty of anything So stay tuned for that at the bottom of this hour Now I want to go to we asked for calls earlier We've got another caller holding Peter in Washington has been holding.
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	Okay, we're gonna we're gonna move on go to Pete in Michigan who's also been holding Pete.
	Are you there?
	Yeah, I'm here.
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	Yes, I can, sir.
	Okay, great.
	I've been trying to get through to you guys for months, and I can never get past the cue stage.
	Just want to let you know I'm an InfoWarrior listener for four years now.
	I've been out there in the establishment space.
	When the V for Victory campaign was going hot, I kept going after you guys ended it.
	Ended out over 5,000 V for Victory flyers.
	Good job.
	I went into the courthouse and handed them out in the courthouse.
	I was threatened with arrest many times.
	Now I'm facing a challenge and I need your help and the help of your listeners.
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	Fill us in.
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	August 1st, I was in the courthouse and I was approached by some officers.
	Okay.
	Let me guess, they arrested you?
	Yeah, they arrested me.
	Five officers beat me up.
	There's security footage of it in the courthouse.
	They are charging me with... Very quickly, because we're almost out of time.
	Is there a website?
	They're charging me with a felony of resisting obstructing.
	How do we reach you, man?
	How do we reach you?
	You want to stay on hold after... JohnPT, the number 6, at Hotmail.com.
	And I've been slanderized by the local media.
	I can't get any good publicity on this.
	Wait, give us the email again, please.
	Give us the email again.
	Okay, got it, got it.
	Alright, we'll be in touch with you.
	We'll look into this.
	Pete, right?
	Pete from Michigan.
	I want to thank you for your call.
	I'm sorry to cut you off.
	We've just got a network clock to adhere to here.
	It sounds like you're experiencing what is a reflection of the overriding oppression and tyranny being dealt out by local tyrants and bureaucrats all across the country.
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	Okay, we're back here on the Alex Jones Show.
	Thank you for joining us today.
	This is Mike Adams filling in for Alex, and we're going to be joined in this segment by Patrick Henningsen, the InfoWars.com reporter who's been covering the escalation of the race wars in America.
	He's got a feature story up on InfoWars.com right now entitled, Trayvon Martin, Disinformation, Fake Reporting, Fueling the Illusion of the American Race War.
	And now joining us in studio right here is one of the key researchers who's been digging into the details to give us a truthful view, not the typical mainstream, lamestream media spin, but the truthful reporting on this, none other than Aaron Dykes.
	Aaron, hey man, good to have you on today.
	Thanks for bringing me in.
	Well, you know, the real reporting is coming up with Patrick because he called sources.
	Yeah.
	He's found out that they're most likely not going to be charging Zimmerman with first degree murder.
	Instead, his sources suggest they're going to go after that stand your ground thing in Florida and try to fight him on the gun rights thing overall.
	But meanwhile, they've been spinning this racial war thing and trying to pump it up.
	And he's got mainstream reports where they reported neo Nazis marching and trying to stir things up.
	Only it didn't happen.
	But the media went with it anyway.
	It didn't happen.
	Okay, so wait a minute, wait a minute.
	I saw this in the mainstream media too.
	The Neo-Nazis marching through the town with their guns.
	I saw pictures on the mainstream media with all their military-looking gear.
	You're saying that didn't happen?
	Well, that's what Patrick Henningsen's reporting.
	He's got all the details, but...
	It came out in a Miami blog, or a Florida blog, only it was a total misreport.
	He called the police station locally, found out this was not going on according to their reports, and so it appears to be yet another hyped up thing just to stir it up in the media.
	All right, so we do have Patrick Henningsen joining us by Skype video.
	We're going to go to you, Patrick, in just a second.
	I know you're standing by to give us the breakdown of that story.
	Anything else that's crucial to give us the context for the story, Aaron?
	Yeah, let me give you some background, not on the Zimmerman and Trayvon case, but on stirring up racial hatred in general.
	In the Orlando area, the same area where this case is going on, back in 2006, there was a neo-Nazi group led by a guy named David Gledy.
	He deliberately marched through the black community and tried to stir up hatred with his little clownish neo-Nazi uniforms and the flags and whatever else.
	I believe it was less than a dozen of them marching.
	They were protected by the police.
	The only problem is it came out a year later, he was 100% an FBI informant.
	Just trying to stir up hatred, and you know groups like the SPLC are not going to be far behind.
	And it's interesting that a lot of the neo-Nazis continue to defend this guy, David Glede, who was outed in the Orlando Sentinel back in February 15, 2007.
	And so there they are all, you know, for years trying to stir this stuff up, trying to punch the buttons.
	And unfortunately, people have a tendency to fall for it.
	They really shouldn't.
	They want to divide us to keep the attention away from the oligarchy, all the looting going on in the country and divide us amongst ourselves on these issues.
	Yes.
	I think we're outgrowing as a country.
	No, you hit it with the phrase punching our buttons.
	They know that there are emotional buttons that can be punched.
	Yeah, I'm here.
	Can you hear me?
	Well, firstly, I'll preface this story with saying that I was able to get access to some people, I won't name who the person is, but let's just say they are a judge in the Sanford court system, Central Florida court system.
	The reason is because as a child I lived very close to Sanford and my mother worked in downtown Sanford for a number of years, so we still have some links.
	We've gone out here and just made a few basic inquiries.
	And we're able to actually report something that is really going on amidst all the hype and all the race baiting and everything else which the media seems content to go into.
	Patrick, very quickly, just an overview for those who really want to understand the context here.
	Who benefits from the escalation of the race war?
	Can you name who are the key beneficiaries in the power structure who want this to happen?
	Okay, well, the story about neo-Nazis, armed neo-Nazis running patrols in Sanford, Florida, was synchronized magically on the Southern Poverty Law Center's website at the same time it appeared in the article in the Miami New Times, okay?
	We've dispelled this as a
	He's
	Do you
	Who are looking for some cheap political mileage out of a racial divide, white versus black, rich versus poor, and so forth.
	And then you have members of the media who are basically addicted to crisis opportunity.
	And you can say the same thing about politicians.
	I'm not just talking about Al Sharpton and some of these reactionary, foundation-funded, unemployable talking heads, of which the comments made by President Obama a few weeks ago, where he said, if I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon Martin.
	That is basically along the same lines as what Al Sharpton's doing by having marches down there.
	The Southern Poverty Law Center, believe it or not, Mike, I called them directly.
	I spoke to the director, Mark Potak, and we had a little discussion about what was going on there.
	I asked about the neo-Nazis.
	He gave me their laundry list of events, going back to Jasper, Texas with the James Byrd lynching in 98, and then Toledo, Ohio, named all the names.
	And I said, well, what about the new Black Panther movement?
	I said, what about these guys?
	They're calling for a dead or alive bounty on the head of George Zimmerman.
	And also calling for a race war on Tampa radio, which Kurt Nemo chronicled very much in detail in his article yesterday.
	I said, what about this?
	I said, what about hate speech?
	This is a quote from the Southern Poverty Law Center.
	And I wish Alex Jones was here.
	He'd be jumping out of his chair.
	Oh, yeah, I'm sure.
	Mark Potek said to me, there's no such thing as hate speech.
	What?
	There's no such thing as hate speech.
	He means there's no such thing as hate speech when it comes out of their mouths.
	Wait a minute.
	But when anybody else is saying something, then they claim that's hate speech, right?
	So total contradiction just as usual.
	That's what we keep hearing in this.
	Well, according to Mark, he said it's only hate speech if there's incitement or there's what's legally termed as a true threat.
	But they are inciting.
	They're openly inciting violence.
	So, and I went around in circles with him on this point and, you know, what can I say?
	And they're one of the biggest attack dogs.
	On the left, as far as anti-Semitic this or calling for censorship of domestic patriot groups and so forth.
	This other part we lost there.
	I don't want to even get into the Oklahoma City bombing Elohim City incident.
	Alex Jones can really sink his teeth into that tomorrow.
	So the beneficiaries are people who have short-term gains to make.
	Out of dividing society into its respective parts.
	I'm working on another longer feature, which I hope to have finished later today, but definitely by tomorrow morning, which is entitled, We Don't Need Another Race War in America.
	And what I'm saying, Mike, and you can comment on this, is this race war is a short-term warm-up phase for what's coming next.
	We're good.
	We're good to go.
	You're onto something huge here, Patrick.
	Very good analysis, as usual.
	So, folks, look for that article tomorrow on InfoWars.com or maybe even later today.
	I want to go to Aaron here and ask Aaron to comment on these contradictions that Patrick just pointed out.
	We've got this contradiction where, according to his conversation with Southern Law Poverty Center, there is no hate speech.
	Yeah, that's huge.
	I mean, they do nothing but label Patriot groups who have not exhibited any hate speech as hate speech groups, and then when you've got someone in a recording openly just calling for a sea of blood, that is somehow not hate speech.
	The system is what gets me.
	You ask who would benefit from this?
	Look at the way groups that George Soros handles have brought about the Arab Spring.
	They also brought about the action in Africa that we saw with the Kony 2012 thing.
	They have the groups poised to benefit from that.
	You've got a number of oligarchical benefactors to occupy Wall Street.
	Why?
	Because they want this larger world government system built on the idea of social justice, of a way to get justice for groups that are not represented.
	But when you go back for decades, for instance if you read Webster Tarpley's Obama Unauthorized Biography, you see how he's a product of a number of extremist groups who are again trying to punch these buttons and in many cases it goes back to what the Ford Foundation was trying to do.
	Giving grants specifically to radical groups, denying grants to more mainstream groups, groups that at least are not seeking violence.
	You've got people like McGeorge Bundy, the Skull and Bones acolyte, pushing these programs through big money foundations like the Ford Foundation.
	Common sense has been thrown out the window and just the basic facts have been thrown out the window for example Zimmerman
	He's not white!
	I mean, he's not a white guy!
	But they want to start a race war where the average white person's a honky, but the elitists at Skull and Bones who are steering the whole mechanism, they're not a honky, you know.
	We gotta go to break, Aaron.
	I know, I know, no, you're using it, you're paraphrasing it.
	We're all just getting along.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Thank you, Patrick.
	We'll be right back.
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	This just in, Santorum suspends GOP presidential campaign.
	So, Rick Santorum is out of the race.
	Clearing the path for Mitt Romney to become the nominee.
	Yeah, after they stole it from Ron Paul.
	I mean, let's be honest about it.
	As long as we're telling the truth, you know.
	Zimmerman isn't white, and they stole the election from Ron Paul.
	For the record.
	There you go.
	But continuing with Patrick Henningsen, we are talking about the escalation of the race war in America.
	Who benefits from that escalation and why we must resist it?
	Because remember, our buttons are being pushed, all of us.
	White people, black people, brown people, no matter what your race or color, the global elite is messing with your head.
	If you feel angry about this whole situation, you have been manipulated.
	So you have to resist that, chill out, calm down and realize that it's all about us working together as people to resist tyranny and not allowing that tyranny to make us fight against each other.
	Patrick, I'd like to have your thoughts on that topic, actually.
	Yeah, Mike, I just want to point out that before this whole Trayvon Martin shooting media circus began,
	You know, things like the neo-Nazi or the white supremacist movement was, it was just about dead and buried.
	You know, it was on a life support system.
	And what the left-leaning media and the Al Sharptons and the Barack Obama and the Jeremiah Wrights of the world have done is they've resuscitated the white supremacist movement and somehow made it kind of sexy for the lowest common denominator of society.
	Likewise, the new Black Panther movement.
	It has no appeal to really anybody in today's modern America.
	But sure enough, after this circus, they've now kind of risen up to have some people listening to them.
	And they are getting some credence in very sort of dark and moldy circles.
	But this is a typical kind of controlled cutout, two sides of a cardboard cutout.
	You have the National Socialist Movement,
	on one side, New Black Panthers on the other.
	And I will bet you the house that both of those movements have a federal informant steering their media operations and so forth.
	Right there at the top of their organization.
	Any Americans learn one thing from this is to understand that point.
	You're exactly right.
	This is racial escalation theater.
	I'm not talking about the shooting itself.
	That was obviously a real event.
	The shooting did take place.
	But everything that surrounds that, the context that they're building around it, the escalation, the words that they're putting out there, the poison in the minds of the people, this is racial escalation theater taking place.
	Is there any other evidence, Patrick, that there are FBI informants or other sort of controllers that are steering groups, specific details that you know of right now?
	I can't say for certain, but all I can do is I can look at history and I can read these reports about the weather underground.
	I mean, it's quite likely, and a lot of people don't talk about this, but Bill airs.
	If you look at his M.O.
	and you look at the M.O.
	of the Weather Underground, Bill Ayers is anything but a radical leftist.
	Bill Ayers looks to me like he was a career federal informant because otherwise he'd be in a federal penitentiary right now doing back-to-back life sentences.
	So, let's get real.
	And most of these sort of radical guys who are allowed to be big media personalities are protected under the federal informant cloak.
	So to speak.
	But you know, there's another more disturbing trend.
	Okay, this is a foundation funded thing.
	On PBS, I watched a show called Finding Your Roots.
	And there was a black professor with a white and a black classroom.
	And they were talking about the founding fathers.
	And they were basically focusing on the fact that George Washington and Thomas Jefferson and these guys were slave owners.
	And then they were going to the black students and saying, what do you think about this?
	And the black students were saying, well, that means they're part of the problem.
	And we thought the Constitution was this and the Constitution was that.
	But these are children being manipulated by academics and foundation funded older people to make them say, throw out the Constitution.
	Throughout the law of the land.
	And that's something that this federal government and the one before it under George W. Bush, make no mistake, has been working to minimize the influence of the Constitution within the greater society of the United States and applying to laws.
	What's astonishing to me in all this, Patrick, is that they have taken this one event, which is tragic, of course, as any loss of life is tragic, but in the bigger context, it is tiny compared to the number of lives lost every single day by just prescription drugs, for example.
	Or soldiers committing suicide because they're on psychiatric drugs.
	Or taser guns.
	So it's all out of context.
	Right.
	They don't have the priorities straight about what's really killing Americans.
	We're all victims of a police state, every one of us.
	Absolutely.
	Patrick, I want to thank you for joining us today.
	Really great talking with you here.
	And folks, watch for Patrick Henningsen's articles on InfoWars.com.
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	Now, one of the side effects of this growing police state is that we, as the free individuals of America, or wherever you're listening from, we will have more interaction with police and law enforcement.
	That interaction needs to be handled very, very carefully in order to keep yourself out of jail, to not have an arrest record, because just an arrest record, even if you're not guilty of anything, just the record of being arrested can ruin your life.
	And here to talk to us about that is Dale Carson.
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	I'll give you a little more intro here.
	He is a former FBI agent, former law enforcement in South Miami.
	He's a very knowledgeable individual.
	He now runs a defense law practice in Florida, and he joins us to talk about how we can interface with law enforcement in an intelligent way that protects our rights, asserts our rights, but doesn't escalate the situation.
	And I believe he's joining us by Skype video.
	Do we have Dale on Skype audio?
	We're still working on the video here.
	All right, Dale.
	It's good to have you with us via Skype audio.
	Good to have you on the show, man.
	How are you doing?
	I'm doing real well.
	I got dressed up today and now you can't see me, so there you go.
	I'm doing well.
	That they may not be aware of.
	As youngsters, we learn that law enforcement's here to help us, there's officer friendly, a number of groups that try to convince us that law enforcement is helpful.
	Now, in an absolute crisis, I don't think there's any question that they are helpful.
	But in anything other than an absolute crisis, they are there to put you in jail.
	And if you can understand that, if you can put your arms around that very concept, then you realize, and jail's a bad place.
	Being arrested's a bad place.
	If you could put your arms around that you understand the dynamic and then when you see law enforcement you you appreciate the fact that with little effort
	Uh, they can put you in jail.
	That's what they're trained to do.
	That's what they get promoted internally, based on the number of arrests that they make.
	So, when you see them, it should make the hair on the back of your head stand up.
	Now, when you talk about these tally sheets that law enforcement uses to advance their career, and while they may say it's not a quota system, it is a tally sheet where they mark down how many felony arrests, how many non-felony arrests, and so on.
	You also talk about how, when they are stopping your vehicle,
	They don't really care about writing traffic tickets.
	They're there to stop your vehicle to look for a possible felony arrest, right?
	That's exactly right.
	And most arrests that we see certainly here in my law office are from car stops.
	I had a young fellow who was stopped yesterday.
	The officer walked up to the car, smelled marijuana.
	I mean, that's illegal.
	But as a practical matter, when that happens in the field, who's there to contest that?
	I mean, the individual who's arrested certainly has a vested interest in saying, wait, wait, wait, it wasn't me.
	Right.
	I never authorized the search.
	But of course, the courts are disinclined, as I think jurors are as well, to believe the words coming out of the mouth of an individual who's been stopped for a criminal violation.
	And it's odd.
	When you think about it, we know carrying dope in the car with us, cocaine or heroin or oxycodone or roxycodone, however it's termed, we know that's illegal.
	But let me ask you this, sorry to interrupt, but isn't it true that if you have a friend who is on a powerful psychiatric drug or a powerful narcotic painkiller and that friend rides in the passenger seat of your car and they've got their pills with them in their prescription bottle and they drop a pill accidentally under the seat, then if you're later driving by yourself, a cop pulls you over
	That's 100% correct, yes.
	And that's right.
	And so you're not going to have an explanation, you're not going to have, you don't even know it was there.
	So the key to this is to not consent to a search, because with absent consent, the law enforcement officer has to obtain a search warrant.
	So how do you do that?
	They may say, well the way a search warrant's gathered is you have to take information in the form of an affidavit, you take that to a neutral magistrate or judge, the judge looks at the information you have, and then makes a determination as to whether or not they're going to issue a search warrant.
	No, I mean how do you as the driver say no politely so that you're not consenting to a search?
	You have a recipe.
	I've been around for a number of years, officer, and frankly I just can't in all good conscience consent to permitting you to search my car.
	So just take it on note that I'm refusing and not giving my consent to search my car.
	That's all you have to say.
	You don't have to get all in their face.
	Oh no.
	Manners.
	Manners.
	Manners.
	So you can just calmly and confidently assert your rights right there.
	And you can also say, you know, my attorney's Dale Carson.
	He has told me on more than one occasion never to permit law enforcement to search my car and I would defer to him in this circumstance.
	So if you'd like to call him, please feel free.
	You also talk about in your book, Arrest Proof Yourself, you talk about carrying a card that I think is a really brilliant idea, and the card has the name of your attorney, it has the name of maybe someone you know in law enforcement, it has some statements on it.
	Does this card really work if you present it to, let's say, a state trooper who just pulled you over?
	Well, you know, Ed Ball, who was a guy who owned DuPont Corporation for many years, used to say, confusion to the enemy.
	And certainly if you present a document to law enforcement that is bonafide, it has stapled to it a business card from an attorney, a business card from a local police officer or sheriff's officer, all those things tell the officer that you are legitimate, that you're not a reason for concern for people or property in the area, in addition to which,
	It's confusing.
	The officer's never gotten anything like that before.
	Certainly they're going to look at it and say, wait a minute, this guy goes to the same church my brother does.
	I'll call my brother, maybe he's not such a bad guy.
	And in that way, you avoid being arrested.
	And that's the key.
	If you can complete a police citizen encounter and walk away a free man or woman, you have won.
	Believe me.
	You've won.
	And let's get to this point, too.
	The police officer there on the scene in a traffic stop situation, they have a tremendous amount of discretion to decide what they wish to do with you.
	For example, even if you are committing some kind of a minor offense, they don't necessarily have to arrest you.
	Can't they also just give you a notice to appear in a court and not arrest you?
	They can ignore it entirely.
	You just say, don't do that anymore.
	How could you have been so dumb?
	And you just, the response from the citizen should be, you know, your officer, you're 100% correct.
	And I do apologize for my stupid behavior.
	It won't happen again.
	That's more likely to get you let off with nothing than getting in his face and saying, you know, there are real criminals around here.
	And it makes sense to me since I am paying your salary, you should go arrest some of those folks.
	Right, don't get smart-mouthed with them.
	There are times to be polite.
	Let me give out your website, DaleCarsonLaw.com.
	Is that right?
	That's right.
	DaleCarsonLaw.com, and the book is Arrest Proof Yourself, which is a good read.
	I actually read this when someone that I know in the natural health industry got arrested for marijuana possession.
	And they were in the process of being licensed as a medical marijuana provider but hadn't completed that, and yet they were carrying marijuana in their vehicle.
	They got arrested and it really got me thinking about, wow, how does this whole system work?
	But let me ask you this, Dale.
	Many of us who are law-abiding citizens, such as myself, I've never been arrested, I've never committed any felony crime, anything like that, never been in jail even.
	We are not concerned about being arrested with pot or crack because we don't carry that stuff.
	What we're concerned about is being falsely arrested, being set up.
	What can innocent citizens do to avoid being falsely arrested or having a corrupt cop drop a bag of cocaine or a TSA officer, they even admit to this, they drop a bag of cocaine in your luggage.
	What can we do in those cases?
	Well, I don't think you can do much about a TSA officer.
	I mean, if you're gonna fly, you know, you're just subject to their control.
	And that's horrifying as that sounds.
	But when you're in the open city, and you're just traveling around, the key is this, and you're not gonna like this, but I found it to be terribly true.
	Okay.
	Nothing good happens after about 10 or 11 o'clock at night.
	Nothing.
	So if you're out on the road and you're traveling around at night, okay, where police have a heightened concern for people and property in the area, you're just subject to encounter law enforcement.
	And it's just better not to be there.
	One of my ex-wives once asked me, well, you know, I need to have a gun, and I thought better of that, frankly.
	And my answer to her was this, you just don't need to be, if you're going somewhere where you think you need a gun, you don't need to be there.
	That's a good point too, yes.
	You know, I think probably just staying out of areas where there's a high crime, incident of high crime.
	And the other thing is looking suspicious.
	Look, it's really easy when you think about it.
	If you put on a suit and tie and you drive a Crown Vic that's modestly colored and looks like a law enforcement car and you're traveling 85 miles an hour, how often do you think you're going to get stopped?
	You got a suit and a tie on.
	And you're riding down the road, and it looks like a law enforcement car, you're never going to get stopped, right?
	Right.
	On the other hand, if you're driving down the road like a Cheech and Chom bomber... In El Camino, 1973.
	Are you going to get stopped?
	The answer is absolutely 100% of the time.
	Right.
	Because that's where the arrests are, right?
	The guy's got a warrant out for him, the buddies that are in the car are hiding weapons.
	I can remember stopping a car in Miami, arresting everybody.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Doesn't this also... I'm sorry, go ahead.
	No, no, so if you're riding around with a bunch of guys in a car that's not properly licensed or tagged, you're going to get stopped, you're going to get questioned, and if you don't have the right answers or if there are warrants, you're going to have a problem.
	For example, frankly, you're riding in a car, the driver's the only person who should be displaying a driver's license, but how often have my clients been stopped and everybody in the car's got to produce an ID?
	And the officer just says, everybody show me your ID?
	Of course.
	But think about it.
	What would happen if one of the guys said, I'm not showing you anything.
	I don't have, under my Fifth Amendment privilege against self-incrimination, I'm not showing you diddle, buddy.
	Pound salt.
	What do you think is going to happen to that kid?
	He's going to get pulled out and beat.
	Well, maybe he won't get beat, but he's going to jail.
	I think he's going to get beat and then he's going to get thrown in jail.
	And then they're going to start a race war out of it if he's not white.
	That's what I think.
	It's a real problem with law enforcement and selective sorts of enforcement.
	And it's been going on, look, we all profile.
	That's a shorthand for being able to survive in the world.
	If you're walking down a street and you see somebody hid up in an alley somewhere, it doesn't matter what race the individual is, you're gonna shy away from that person hiding up in the alley, right?
	That's profiling.
	So it's more situational, I think.
	And so you're saying I shouldn't ride my Harley with my bandana, my tattoos, my long sideburns.
	I mean, just to mention a stereotype.
	And you also talk about bodywork on your car.
	If your car looks like it's in bad mechanical condition, that's also another reason to get stopped, huh?
	We had a favorite thing in Miami.
	Yeah, of course.
	You know, if you're driving down the road and your backup lights are on, that's a violation.
	Oh yeah, right.
	So anything that's not right with your automobile, it causes you to get stopped, it causes you to get searched.
	Remember the officer's in an elevated stance from you anyways, looking down into your car, right?
	That's right.
	So if you've got any kind of contraband or any questionable items in your car, you got a problem because that's plain view.
	And the officer has every right, based on that, to do what he needs to do, or she needs to do.
	Let me ask you this.
	You did a lot of traffic stops in your days as a Miami cop, I'm sure.
	Oh, I loved them.
	You loved them?
	Sure.
	Gets the adrenaline going.
	You never know when you turn on your lights whether or not the guy's going to rabbit from you, flee from you.
	And that's exciting.
	And if he rabbits from you, everybody likes a chase, right?
	Right.
	It's better than paperwork, huh?
	There's nothing better.
	Sliding around corners with your headlight and sirens and all that on, man, it's to die for, sure.
	But that's a good point about the psychology of law enforcement is sometimes, you even describe them sometimes as sharks who are out on the roads looking for prey.
	Life can be boring as a cop if you're behind a desk a lot.
	You need a little adrenaline rush, you need a little excitement.
	We know the DEA loves smashing in doors of marijuana clinics in California.
	Isn't there an element of just, you know, really fun excitement from time to time?
	Of course, that's why we do it.
	To the uninitiated, you seem surprised at that.
	Boy, it's a kick!
	Yeah, I'm kind of surprised.
	It's a team of guys.
	You all get white hats, right?
	And you rush into the darkness.
	So, of course, it's exciting and you're on the right side of the law.
	You're doing what you're supposed to be doing, at least that's what we're led to believe, of course.
	Right.
	So, there's a dynamic there that absolutely cannot be denied.
	So, our job as innocent citizens, then, is to not invoke that kind of adrenaline response from the officer who's interacting with us, then.
	That's a fair point.
	Yeah, I'd say that's a fair point, yes.
	Because I actually, I volunteered with police in Tucson, and I remember in the defensive tactics training there, they always said that resistance is met with force.
	So if you bring up force, the officer escalates it to more force.
	If you chill out, they will chill out.
	Of course.
	And of course they will.
	All right.
	We've got a lot more.
	Stay with us, Dale.
	I want to have you on the other side of this break.
	It's a fascinating conversation.
	Stay with us.
	A lot more straight ahead here on the Alex Jones Show.
	This is Mike Adams interviewing Dale Carson.
	We'll be right back.
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	This is Mike Adams, The Health Ranger.
	Thank you for joining us.
	And Dale, I've got an interesting question for you.
	You know, what about...
	In your book, you talk about how the biggest problem that the day-to-day criminals have is they don't show up for court.
	Their alarm clock doesn't work.
	They don't get out of bed and go to court and show up for the hearings and pay the fines and so on.
	And then it just escalates and gets worse and worse.
	But what about innocent people like James Stewart, who was a guest in the first hour of this show, where he shows up in court.
	He goes to court on time, on schedule, to face these bogus charges because he was distributing milk.
	Well, it's an odd thing.
	In the United States, if you violate a law, you can violate a federal law, a state law, a municipal law, and you could be charged independently by each of those agencies.
	And what has to happen is anytime you're in trouble with the police, law enforcement, and there's a pending criminal case, you need to be in constant communication with
	You're the investigators in the other side of the case, my opposition, the law enforcement people, and also the State Attorney's Office, and perhaps the U.S.
	Attorney's Office, to make certain
	That there are no more pending charges.
	The most shocking thing happens when my clients get arrested for, let's say, possession of a narcotics case.
	Simultaneously, DEA on the federal side is working a narcotics case.
	They bond out on a half million dollar bond.
	So they put up $100,000 to bond out.
	$50,000 they would put up, 10%.
	They get out, but before they can actually reach the jailhouse door,
	The federal government hits them with a charge.
	So they're right back in jail, and they're out $50,000, right?
	You've got to coordinate that with your attorneys and with law enforcement to make sure those kinds of things are not going to happen.
	Because when they do, as you mentioned, there you are.
	You've already expended money on an attorney, fines, your bail bond, and now all of a sudden, all of that's washed away.
	And that's just tragic.
	Well, and in James' case, they slapped him with a million dollars in bail.
	Now, what kinds of things, you've seen firsthand, what kinds of things would typically earn a million dollars in bail?
	You know, it's interesting you should mention that.
	Jacksonville has probably the highest bonds of any place in the country that I know of.
	So, I often see million-dollar bonds.
	I had a case where a guy was an insurance fraud case.
	Minor amounts of money, he'd been charged.
	His bond was set at a million dollars.
	And it's often punitive.
	In other words, law enforcement, those are the people who talk to the judges and get the bonds set because typically you're not represented when you show up.
	So, a million dollar bond is not uncommon in certain of our cases.
	But generally, and this is particularly true in federal court, bonds are never that high in federal court.
	With rare, rare exceptions, most everyone goes home with basically a surety bond that's not even paid yet in the federal side.
	So, what it tells me is someone of your folks gets a million dollar bond, somebody's trying to send him a real message.
	Oh yeah, they were and they did as they tortured him and abused him in the L.A.
	County Jail.
	Look, we're almost out of time, but Dale, I want to thank you for joining us and encourage those who like to learn more from you to check out your website DaleCarsonLaw.com.
	This is the book, Arrest Proof Yourself, which I have read and found it to be absolutely fascinating as someone who hasn't even been in the jail system.
	So I was, wow, this is amazing.
	Thank you, Dale, for joining us.
	My pleasure.
	Thank you.
	Great to have you on.
	And thank you for watching today.
	I really appreciate your support here on the Alex Jones Show.
	I want to thank the InfoWars crew and Alex in particular for leading such an amazingly effective organization fighting for your liberty and justice across America.
	This is Mike Adams, the Health Ranger.
	Thank you.
	Talk to you again soon.
	Take care.