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	Big Brother.
	Mainstream media.
	Government cover-ups.
	You want answers?
	Well, so does he.
	He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
	And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
	Well, we've had former top Bush administration officials, experts on Iran, come out and say this whole plot is funny and manufactured.
	We've had Bob Mayer, the former CIA black-op commander, come out and say they're totally fake.
	Ray McGovern, former top CIA analyst to Reagan, and of course Bush Jr., come out and say it's totally phony.
	There are literally now...
	Hundreds, I can't even keep track, of top experts coming out and saying this is totally fake and phony.
	We now have the affidavits they used to arrest this used car salesman, drunk pothead.
	He was just trying to do a drug deal with the very Los Zetas that the Justice Department allows to ship drugs in and ships guns into Mexico.
	So, a cover for Fast and Furious.
	A pretext to launch war against Iran.
	And the consensus of experts is Israel has green-lighted an attack and is trying to get the U.S.
	to do it.
	Congressman King labels Iran a terror plot, an act of war.
	Says Obama should have troops on standby for a strike, not even having Israel strike.
	Joining us for the next 30 minutes is Lieutenant Colonel Anthony Schaefer.
	His bio is too long, but he ran operations trying to kill bin Laden and was blocked.
	He's best-selling author of Operation Dark Heart and he dropped a bombshell two days ago and we wrote an article about it at Infowars.com on Andrew Napolitano's Fox Business Show.
	We're going to break in a moment.
	We'll get kicked off here now saying that he has an FBI Justice Department source that told him this whole plot was not in the computer system.
	So this isn't just experts.
	Saying it looks phony, it's fake, it's a pretext for war, a political smokescreen.
	He says he talked to a Justice Department official who has the clearance and said it isn't in the system and it should be.
	So joining us is Anthony Schafer.
	Colonel, good to have you with us.
	Thank you for having me back.
	Sir, we're going to break here in just a few minutes, but let's go right to the heart of the matter after the break.
	Good to be on again.
	Right now, what are your sources saying?
	Is the attack on Iran right now green light?
	Well, you know, I've got to be honest with you.
	I just met with him again and I went through everything one more time just to make sure everybody's clear.
	And look, I'm getting the same thing.
	There's just no information within their systems indicating the background on this, which is a huge red flag for a lot of guys on the inside.
	I've got to tell you, even if there's a desire, Alex, there's really very little military capability.
	One of the things that was revealed to me is that, yeah, there's been a call that's gone out for capability to do something, but, you know, for better or for worse, everything is really tied up in Afghanistan right now.
	So, you know, there may be some elements here who are desiring the outcome when we move forward, but I've got to be honest with you, the former issue of what you said in your introduction, the issue regarding Southwest border in the Zetas, I really think is driving the transits
	Okay, some stations don't carry this first five minutes, so I want to come back, Colonel, and recap all of this, but did I hear you correctly?
	You talked to your Justice Department source, and they said, yeah, it's not in the system, and basically, if this thing did exist and wasn't a fabrication, it would be in the system, or somebody doesn't want the investigation looked at and has expunged it?
	Either one of those are the options we're looking at.
	Absolutely.
	The idea is this.
	You know, people who have the need to know don't have any information that they could look at.
	And that's incredible.
	Especially at this point in time after this has been out in the news several days.
	There's normally a great deal of information showing how the investigation came to the conclusions it did.
	And they're telling me, and I talked to another expert this morning regarding the actual indictment and the details of that.
	The actual indictment will not hold up in a court of law, according to my expert.
	So, basically there's a two-fer here, Alex.
	First, there's no credible information inside the system where people should be able to find it if they have a need to know and right to know the information.
	And secondly, the experts have looked at the actual indictment and are telling me, this is not going to hold water when it comes to trial.
	So that, therefore, you know, and please don't get me wrong, I do believe the Iranians are a threat.
	There are things that they have done and are doing which threaten the country.
	All I'm saying is, right now, this one instance does not look to be legitimate from everybody I'm talking to.
	Alright, well then the question is, I want to come back, Colonel, and we appreciate you joining us, to recap everything you've said and flesh it out in more detail, and then ask, why is this coming forward now, and what's the outcome going to be?
	Because they're talking about cooking up new plots.
	Stay with us.
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	Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
	My friends, in the last 16 plus years I've been on air, few things I've covered have been as important as we're covering right now.
	And I gotta be honest with you, as bad as things are, you don't know who's good and bad until you get to that crisis moment.
	And I am heartened by the fact that I have literally, without even trying, seen more than 50 analysts, and I know there's more than that, top Clinton, Bush administrations,
	You name it, come out.
	Pentagon people, Colonel Schaefer, FBI people giving him information, Steve Pucinich, Ray McGovern, Bob Bair, coming out saying this Iran situation is totally, totally phony.
	And these are people who fought Iran.
	These are not people that are, you know, peaceniks or something.
	The point is, why has this been manufactured now?
	Now, Lieutenant Colonel Anthony Schaefer, best-selling author of the book they tried to redact,
	Operation Dark Heart
	He never.
	Ring, ring, ring, till I got off the treadmill, went over and talked to him.
	And he said, look, they're trying to green light a war.
	He has all the Pentagon sources.
	But I was just getting some good news from Colonel Schaefer, if you missed the last segment, saying there are people that want to launch this war, but the assets aren't there.
	So I want to walk through this carefully.
	But Colonel Schaefer, take your time, because
	Obviously that became a big national news story when you were on Judge Napolitano's Fox Business and said your high-level Justice Department source with a high-level security clearance said it was not in the computers.
	That sends up red flags.
	Specifically, what do you mean by red flags?
	What does this signify?
	You said you met with the source again today or did you say yesterday to make sure you were right about
	Yes.
	Well, yeah, you're right.
	We are being told look to back up Israel in an Iran attack to get stuff out of the Strait of Hormuz.
	But I didn't tell you that.
	But I know you are high level in the think tanks and the Pentagon connections and, you know, lecture on actual strategy level.
	And so you're
	Your security clearance has been as high as it gets, so you've got sources I don't have.
	So let's walk through here for people the magnitude of this, because a lot of my sources say this is the closest we've gotten to an actual attack on Iran, and you've got Congressman King saying this is an act of war, Obama's got to get the military going.
	Certainly, this is the biggest drum beating I've seen, and why would they use such a faulty piece of garbage to sell this?
	You've got the floor, Colonel.
	Break it down.
	Well, thank you.
	Well, first off, you know, I think it is very clear that the thing that we must do, and this I talk to a lot of folks who are of my mind, you know, the last thing we want to do, Alex, is make an enemy of the Iranian people.
	The Iranian people are Persians, and frankly, they are as fed up with the theocracy which rules them as we are.
	The thing is, though, we cannot afford to make them an adversary in the process of moving forward.
	The military debate is so important at this point because some people recognize you want to have all the different components available to you to do things.
	At the same time, the last thing you want to do is actually do something which will enable the theocracy to actually clamp down even more on the people.
	That's the issue right now that I'm being told is really kind of the thing that's pushing people back.
	Now, regarding the history, let me be very clear for your audience to understand.
	Look, when I was in Afghanistan, and this is my book, Dark Heart, we found the Iranians were up to no good as early as 2003.
	There's two chapters devoted to an interrogation of a U.S.
	citizen who was of Iranian descent.
	His brother was working for the IRGC, and his brother was there in eastern Afghanistan, on the opposite side of the country from Iran, paying people to stir up trouble against
	Let me be very clear, I'm not pro-Iranian by any circumstance of the imagination.
	I have seen what these people, what the Iranian IRGC has been doing to try to kill our soldiers.
	So there's no way in heck that I would ever come out for the Iranians.
	With that said, I think we have to understand that we're playing a chess game, and simply pushing our military towards a kinetic solution is not the best solution here, and what concerns me
	We're good to go.
	Yeah, I think so.
	And not only like a Hollywood script, frankly, you know, we were looking at doing something in fiction, which mimics very closely what's going on in this so-called plot.
	So that's what made me just sit up and say, wow, there's something really wacky about this.
	And that- Colonel Schaefer, for those that don't know,
	A lot of times, different agencies, even different governments will use plot lines to actually carry out real attacks or fake attacks.
	They will also, as has been admitted for 12 years that I know of, the Pentagon, the CIA actually pay script writers to write scripts for them, quote, to be able to imagine what terrorists might do.
	So the fact that
	You went to your publisher when you were in New York to be on MSNBC yesterday, because I know you were there, you couldn't come on here yesterday, and that you're saying maybe somebody leaked your script and then maybe the White House used it.
	Is that what you're getting at?
	Well, it may be because there are so many parallels to this thing.
	Frankly, what we're looking at here is a plot where 24 meets The Sopranos, which makes me... You know, obviously it's great for fiction, but I think the reality which we're faced with is entirely different.
	And let me tell you, as an intelligence professional,
	This used car salesman would be the last individual in the world that I, as a professional intelligence officer, would direct to get in contact with a drug group to become a group of assassins.
	Let me tell you, on the face of that, you know, that is beyond any operational knowledge that any intelligence officer would do.
	You just don't trust someone with that lack of focus and training to do something that would be that key and critical to an assassination plot.
	It's just not done.
	Wouldn't you normally go after well-performing former military people, or doctors, or engineers, or people that have shown that they're focused and professional?
	There's a term, and you've used it before, called vetting.
	One of the things, one of the key elements of any successful intelligence operation, you can ask Bob Bailey this, Bob would probably tell you the same thing.
	The key to a successful intelligence operation is vetting of an asset, to make sure that you test them adequately, to understand, to make sure that they will do your bidding when the time comes.
	And frankly, this guy was, as far as I could tell, I wouldn't have used him to do basically a dead drop for me, because I think he's not even that reliable.
	And the second thing that you need to look at, and I hope your audience looks at very hard, is the wire transfers.
	My goodness, you know, since the beginning of the current war, everybody's been looking at high-dollar transfers of money.
	So again, an intelligence organization with the professional background of the IRGC, or the Coups Force, you know, I think they watch us very closely.
	So for them to make an amateur mistake tells me one of two things.
	There was a radical element within the Quds Force who was just doing this on their own and really kind of wanted to discredit the other side.
	And let's not forget that within the Iranian government there is a huge conflict going on between Ahmadinejad and the other folks who want to do different things.
	So there is truly a conflict there.
	So this could well be good news by the fact that there's a visible break within the government and someone there did this trying to prove a point.
	But, on the other hand, this could be, again, a provocation by someone here who basically wanted this to be caught.
	And again, I've talked to a number of intelligent professionals, many of which, Alex, are... And again, like you've already said, these guys and gals are not pro-Iranian.
	But they've told me, based on their experience, because I wanted to make sure I wasn't crazy, that based on their experience, this basic format does not add up to any known format for a successful intelligence operation, if you're reliable.
	It is, but it does fit the format that we've seen hundreds of times the last few years of the FBI setting up mentally ill patsies or just purely setting people up.
	And as you mentioned, the affidavit, it's in the news today with those that have seen the affidavit, that it was the informant running the whole thing.
	And this was just some idiot trying to be part of a drug deal and make some money.
	And it isn't even designed to hold up later.
	It's just a pretext to launch a war.
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	Why do you think they freaked out so bad and tried to imply it was a hoax but later had to admit that it wasn't a hoax?
	Hi Alex.
	First of all, let me say thank you very much for having me on your show.
	It's a great honor.
	And I'm a big fan of Austin, Texas, myself.
	Love to visit.
	But as to why I think it happened, for one thing, I think it was because it was too good to be true, maybe, for someone who's a trader to come on TV and say those things.
	Because usually, you know, these financial pundits who come on TV, they don't say anything so substantive.
	They just say the same old crap all the time, you know.
	So someone actually spoke, someone actually said something which sounded true, seemed to be true for some of these guys, some of these, you know, media folks, so maybe that was one reason.
	As for whether it was a conspiracy to discredit me, it's possible, but I don't know for sure.
	Well, my point is, is I've seen other people on other prominent channels.
	Max Keiser, for one, coming up later.
	He had his own BBC show a few years ago and basically said similar things, because it's true.
	And there wasn't this big gasping and freaking out.
	I mean, I think a lot of it is because this stuff is so transparent now, it's so obvious that the emperor is wearing no clothes, that when you pointed it out in a clear and concise way, it freaked him out.
	I mean, I've talked to people that are invited to fellow reserve meetings to be let in, you know, to the inside scoop if they're wealthy, and they say, things are going to collapse, here's how we profit.
	I know a lot of big stock traders.
	That is their big joke.
	So what you said was true.
	You said, hey, you can make a lot of money off this.
	And so you did let the cat out of the bag, or you let the general public know that they're on the menu for dinner.
	But let's now talk, you know, unfettered, specifically from your years of trading, why you picked up this worldview and what some of the other traders around you say.
	I mean, let us into more of the secrets that seem to upset these people so much.
	Yeah, I mean, it's interesting you mentioned secrets because
	I don't think they are secrets.
	You know, I mean, I know there's a lot of people, you know, general in the general public who don't know about these things, about the fact that traders and even nowadays with technology, even ordinary people can make money when markets go down.
	But what I was talking about, I mean, you're right, Alex, because in a way, what I was talking about is what Goldman Sachs has been getting away with for years, which is basically
	dumping crap on people and Then betting against the very same people, you know, so taking taking on the opposite side of the action To what they themselves were selling it happened in the dot-com crash the year 2000 It happened in the Great Depression 1930s.
	It happened in the housing bubble in the housing crash so what I was saying to people is look these guys these these bankers these these
	These idiots who got us into this mess in the first place.
	These guys already making money by betting against you.
	By betting against everybody in the stock market.
	So now it's your turn.
	Don't be a chump.
	I'm not suggesting people should go out there and gamble with their money.
	That's not what I'm saying.
	What I'm saying is...
	What I was trying to get out there is, there are ways that you too, whether you're listening from home or anywhere, that you too can get on the same game that these guys have been doing for years.
	So I don't think it's a big secret, but some people obviously thought, well, this stuff is new.
	Well, some have likened it to suicide bankers.
	Max Keiser, you know, tells that documented story in the 9-11 Commission of a guy who stayed at his desk, even though, you know, the building was on fire, to make trades betting against airlines.
	And, you know, he made five million dollars, but he died.
	It's almost this target
	I think?
	Blank tea.
	Ha ha ha.
	You have earthquakes in Japan or earthquakes in the US and invariably Goldman Sachs and other brokers put out the Twitter.
	My wallet fell.
	I mean just a total disconnection from humanity.
	Give me your view on that because that's really what you were hitting upon was the predatory nature.
	See, the thing is, I'll be honest with you, Alex, look, when I'm looking to short the markets, you know, in layman's terms, you know, bet against the markets or make money downwards, I don't really think of it, I mean, maybe I guess I should, you know, maybe I should think of it from a human standpoint, but I don't.
	For me, it's just, you know, a job, you know, it's,
	In the same way that the carpenter makes buildings, houses, in the same way that the plumber fixes pipes, a fireman does his job.
	For me, betting against the markets and selling short when markets crash, it's just part of the game.
	I don't really think of it in those kind of terms.
	The fact is that companies are going bankrupt and people's jobs and
	Uh, pension is going down with it.
	I mean, I know it sounds terrible, but that's the truth.
	Sure, you're just being honest about the current system.
	I mean, that's like with Bonnie and Clyde.
	They asked Clyde, why do you rob banks?
	He said, that's where the money's at, or you've got the parable of the scorpion and the frog, and the scorpion says, will you take me across the river?
	The frog says, you're gonna sting me and kill me.
	He said, no, I promise, I'll be friendly.
	Take me across and I'll be nice.
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	And when they get over to the other side, the scorpion stings him and the frog's in pain, dying.
	He says, why'd you kill me?
	He said, I'm a scorpion.
	And so I guess in a way we're the sheep here to be gang-raped and the vampires are here to feed and then they even call it free market so the grassroots calls for socialism which only helps the bankers more because now they can consolidate power and suck it off offshore and I mean it's kind of our bug-eyed, sheepish, mentally retarded lot to just sit here and be gang-raped?
	Right.
	I would say this, Alex.
	A lot of people do think
	That people who sell short, people who are betting against the markets, making money when the markets crash, that it's immoral.
	I personally do not believe that.
	I don't accept that view.
	Short sellers provide a good service to the markets.
	We can't do without them, basically because for two reasons.
	They provide liquidity in the markets.
	There's more activity, more liquidity.
	And also brings balance from a rational exuberance.
	You must have missed what I was saying.
	I think you're a good guy.
	You're being honest.
	We could short big evil corrupt companies we don't like.
	I purely get it's just a tool force of nature.
	I'm talking about Goldman Sachs, Bank of America, JP Morgan, the insiders who are exempt from SEC rules, whose former officers sit in the Federal Reserve and SEC, who've gotten tens of trillions of bank or bailout money to back up their derivative crap, because you were bringing up people selling garbage.
	I'm talking about...
	Listing garbage as AAA, that's criminal.
	And that's what I'm talking about.
	You were getting off into, you know, on the show that I saw on BBC about Goldman Sachs, you know, making money in down times and they rule the world.
	They were freaking out about that.
	So, I mean, that was just them freaking out about the obvious.
	I was just going further to the point of the rest of the story.
	You started to allude to how they're selling people toxic assets.
	That's right, yeah.
	Well that's absolutely true and I would agree with you 100% because Goldman Sachs has been behind, as I mentioned, almost every major crash in history and a good example is the dot-com crash.
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	government allows drugs to be shipped in by select cartels, then actually ships them the guns.
	Does it just allow them to leave gun shops, and then gives it to cartels to wipe out their enemy, and then recycle the crisis and blame the Second Amendment for it?
	Now the Attorney General has been caught perjuring himself, but I noticed that ISSA and others are saying, come in and change your testimony.
	We understand it was a mistake because we've learned that Fast and Furious under another name is at least five and a half years old and goes back to the Bush administration allowing the Sinaloa cartel to bring in drugs in exchange for protection and guns to wipe out their enemies.
	And that is actually in Hawaiian papers, Texas papers, El Paso Times, but it's not getting national attention.
	I think this is one of the most red-handed examples of problem-reaction solution I've ever seen.
	So your view on Fast and Furious and how important problem-reaction solution has been in history.
	Well, it's certainly been important, hasn't it, Alex, in our history in America, because for many years, actually long before the first Bush administration, there have been forces within the United States government who have wanted to have an excuse
	To change the character of the government and the character of life in the United States.
	This goes back, actually, to the turn of the last century.
	You may be familiar, we came across the testimony of Norman Dodd, who was the chief investigator of the tax-exempt foundations shortly after the end of World War II.
	And his testimony was absolutely stunning because he interviewed the heads of some of the largest tax-exempt foundations of the country at that time.
	And we're talking about the Carnegie Endowment Fund for International Peace.
	We're talking about the Ford Foundation and the Rockefeller Foundations and so forth, the big giants.
	And his testimony was startling because he found out that these foundations were deliberately spending huge amounts of money to create crises.
	We're good.
	Our instructions are, our motive, our goal is to change life inside the United States so that it could be comfortably merged with the Soviet Union.
	Now this was his exact words and Dodd said that he almost fell off his chair when he heard that.
	He said, how in the heck can anybody in their right mind expect to change life in the United States so that it could be merged with the Soviet Union and by inference with all of the other nations of the world, especially of the
	Many of them being dictatorial in nature.
	That means that the United States would have to give up its cherished freedoms, its judicial system, its way of life.
	It's everything that we cherish.
	Freedom of speech, our rights, and so forth.
	And the answer came with a
	They'll be glad to do that if it's seen by them as a means of protecting them against a dreaded enemy of some kind.
	And so the Carnegie Endowment Fund and all these other groups decided that they would do everything they could to manipulate the United States into war.
	And to keep us in war for as long as possible, because under conditions of warfare, with a dreaded enemy always portrayed to us, we are in fact willing to give up all of those cherished things.
	Well, that was back in the 1940s that he discovered all of this, and now here it is, here it is 2011,
	And all of the things that Norman Dodd said, that'll never happen.
	They could never bring about those changes.
	It's already happened.
	What's the difference between life in the United States today, at a deep level, and all of the totalitarian systems of the world?
	There's so little difference anymore, and those differences are being whittled away as we speak.
	So it's actually come to pass, and as you say, it's problem and it's solution, you know,
	We create a problem, then we offer a solution, and that creates a problem in itself, and we have another solution, and each little step along the way moves us closer and closer to the ultimate goal.
	Well, the ultimate goal, as I've said before, is to change life inside the United States, so it can be comfortably merged with all of the nations of the world, regardless of their sociological, economic, or political characteristics.
	To bring about this New World Order, as they like to describe it.
	This is the goal, and it's the kind of a New World Order that I'm sure most Americans would not like if they fully could understand it and perceive what it is.
	So, yeah, it's a definite strategy, it's a tactic, it's not just happening by blind, random forces of history at all.
	It's been planned, and it's being executed in exactly that fashion.
	It certainly is, and we've got to counter them.
	I mean, never before has it been more obvious.
	How criminal these elites are, and that they're gaining monopoly control through government, and then they fund the opposition to call for more government, which is like throwing, you know, the rabbit into the briar patch.
	Oh, please don't throw me in there.
	Looking forward into the future, I mean, I see a lot of hope because people really are waking up quick.
	Those that can be reached.
	I mean, I really see kind of a dichotomy or a paradox where either people are getting more, you know, into the trance and deeply asleep or they're getting more awake.
	So I see a clash coming.
	Well, you certainly are correct on that.
	Excuse me for my phone ringing.
	I keep putting it on hold, but it doesn't seem to stick.
	Hey, it's real.
	It's real, G. Everett.
	We love it.
	It's very real.
	My phone rings all the time here.
	I wish I could just unplug it.
	But anyway, yeah, where were we?
	I was getting into the fact that there's a clash of...
	Oh yeah, the clash, of course.
	I think what we see is, on the encouraging side, we see a rising tide of public awareness.
	And that's very encouraging.
	But we also see on the other side a rising tide of totalitarianism.
	And these forces are rising at the same time.
	And it's sort of nip and tuck to see which one is going to overpower the other.
	I believe that the answer to that question will definitely be known
	Within our lifetime, certainly your lifetime, probably mine.
	In other words, it's not too far away.
	It's coming to a head.
	Gee, Edward, continuing along that line...
	The authoritarians, the collectivists, do know we're waking up to them.
	They admit that in their own Cass Sunstein White House memos.
	They're scared.
	And I think that's the most important message here, is that they're not all powerful.
	They're concerned.
	They can be beaten.
	They try to teach us that resistance is futile, like the corporate Borg in Star Trek.
	But every man, woman, and child, every religion, every race, every group out there needs to realize that every little thing they do
	Towards liberty and freedom and waking others up and resisting adds together to defeat the collectivist.
	So it's like our free will by doing little actions adds to a liberty collective and an individual collective that they can't track or control that is a cookie cutter that is going to defeat their Borg system.
	Well, I agree with that, and also there's another element, Alex, and you've heard me talk about it a lot, and that is that knowledge by itself, and even sheer numbers by themselves, as important as they are, are not as important as what you do with that knowledge and what positions those numbers hold, the people that represent those numbers.
	What positions do they hold in society?
	In other words, do they have power?
	Are they running things?
	Are they leaders?
	Do people follow them and listen to them?
	Or are they just sort of rank and file?
	And so one of my big themes with the organization that we founded called Freedom Force International is to motivate people to network together so that they can help each other come into positions of leadership and influence in society.
	We call it coming to power.
	Coming to power is more important
	Well, it's certainly more important than just knowing what's going on.
	I mean, you can watch what's going on and complain, wring your hands and say, oh my goodness, this is terrible.
	I wonder how it's going to turn out.
	Well, that's what the CFR, that's what the CFR is all about.
	As you know, British Intel set it up to take over the U.S.
	again in 1922, is they go out and recruit already prominent people and offer them more power to be part of this structure
	Where they admit they're trying to create this continuity of agenda, and there's this idea that the establishment puts out that freedom fighters are supposed to live in a ditch, talk to people over a tin can, and have no power.
	We have to build media organizations.
	No, it's the opposite.
	We have to give to Ron Paul.
	We have to give to Freedom Force.
	We have to give our time, our energy, spreading the word.
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	Off with the one, the only Max Keiser.
	Now we've talked about a lot of issues with Max in the past, the gulag economy, the fact that banks were going to start charging you to keep money, and in this cashless society that they would basically force people onto a digital plantation where you're actually charged for the right to engage in commerce, kind of a global private
	I don't know.
	It's a pleasure to be with you, Alex Jones.
	A few weeks ago a trader came out, a stock trader on BBC and it made huge news and he was an independent trader and he said that Goldman Sachs rules the world and there's a global occupation of bankers.
	It basically sounded like a replay of Max Keiser or Alex Jones and everybody freaked out and dozens of publications, Washington Post,
	I mean, you name it.
	The BBC had to come out and say, yes, this is really a real person.
	This was a real interview.
	I mean, now stating the obvious, they have to ask you, is the guy a real traitor?
	Why does that get everybody so freaked out?
	But then when you talk about it on big international television or even on BBC with your own show, it doesn't get as much attention.
	Well, the big interesting part of the Rustani interview that you're referring to, what made it really interesting and newsworthy was the reaction of the BBC presenters who have been cuckold by the banking industry and lied to for years and years that they are doing the right thing and the good thing.
	And so they were like,
	A spouse who suddenly finds out that their wife or husband is cheating on them.
	You know, these BBC presenters were told in public that the banks are actually trying to screw them!
	And that they're all crooked!
	And so they had this reaction, this overreaction, this melodramatic reaction on TV.
	Oh, ridiculous!
	Who ever heard of that?
	Who could say that?
	He says, fish, women, the sea!
	So that's what made it a classic TV moment.
	And I think that's just part of the overall global insurrection against banking occupation, as I call it.
	It's peaking its way into the mainstream media.
	It's poking through the wall.
	It's seeping into the matrix.
	Yep, the shafts of light of what's really going on are now beaming into the very controlled media situation.
	So this is a part of that, and it's growing.
	I'm just reading a tweet right now from Lucy Kavanaugh, who's with Russia Today, and she is saying that there's a crowd outside of Jamie Dimon's house on the Upper East Side of New York City chanting, USA, USA.
	So as you know Alex, we've been talking about the fact that the real people behind the Banking Terrorist Network are principally Lloyd Blankfein and Jamie Dimon.
	We've been telling people that they need to focus their attention on these two characters.
	Jamie Dimon is suddenly being called out for the financial terrorist that he is.
	The facade has been torn away and people now understand that if you really are for USA, USA, that you would want this terrorist at Guantanamo Bay or waterboarded or something like that.
	Because he is destroying your economy more than anyone else in the world today.
	Uh, is also very important because Jamie Dimon is on the board of directors of the New York Fed, as well as being the CEO of J.P.
	Morgan.
	And the Fed is really the sub-level, which is the level that needs to be attacked.
	And I know you were down in Texas, and I saw the video.
	It's down there in Texas.
	And, um, it makes, you know, perfect sense.
	I hope people like Naomi Klein, who is now resurfacing again.
	You know, she was a big name during the anti-globalization movement of the late 90s.
	And she's kind of taking ownership of the Occupy Wall Street demonstrations and protests.
	I hope that she understands and begins to talk about the Federal Reserve Bank and what they do and their role in this occupation in our own country by these foreign-owned terrorists, the bankers.
	Well, Max, let me raise that.
	To you specifically, because two or three weeks ago, I reached out to Occupy Wall Street.
	I sent reporters all over the country.
	They really were grassroots.
	Now in San Antonio, in Dallas, in New York, in D.C., the people that have gotten control of it are Democratic Party operatives in many cases.
	And they say, no Ron Paul signs, no protest the Fed.
	The Fed is federal.
	And then they say to us, how dare you not go after Bank of America, Goldman Sachs?
	A city group, Wells Fargo, and I'm like, those are the big mega banks that own the shares of the Federal Reserve.
	The Federal Reserve is how they get their government power.
	It's how they get their trillions in bailouts.
	So I'm saying take out their power, take out their fortress, then we can get the little buggers inside.
	And just like the mainline Tea Party got co-opted by Republicans, now they don't want to go after the Fed.
	When it all started with Ron Paul four years ago, now they want to be led by Herman Cain, the former head of the Fed in Kansas City.
	And it's the same thing with the Democrats now, and the Fed coming out and endorsing Occupy Wall Street, in a hope of blaming Mainline, Main Street, and the tens of thousands of legitimate companies on Wall Street.
	Instead, now it's this class warfare thing, exactly what Mainline Democrats want, and it makes me very, very sad, because I wanted to embrace Occupy Wall Street, and I know it's a diverse group, but the people that the mainstream media gives attention
	People like Michael Moore, you know, saying let's get rid of capitalism.
	No, the problem is monopoly capitalists that you talk so much about, these monopoly men.
	That's the problem.
	So what's your message to them?
	Am I right in what I'm saying or am I wrong?
	Should I embrace Karl Marx right now on air?
	Well, as you can imagine, I'm in pretty close contact with the organizers of Occupy Wall Street, principally David DeGraw, who's one of the two or three top people who brought the whole thing to life.
	And he and I have been talking about this lack of specific demands for the groups.
	And my issue, the risk that I put forward, is that
	As the movement gets bigger and bigger and bigger without a specific goal, it's ripe to be co-opted.
	And I saw evidence of this just a few days ago when Unilever, which owns Ben & Jerry's Ice Cream, came out in favor of Occupy Wall Street.
	So that's a very bad development.
	When foreign corporations
	In this case, a Dutch company, Unilever, and they have their fake, organically driven Ben & Jerry's ice cream front come out and start to co-op this movement for corporate sales purposes.
	You know you're on a slippery slope down to irrelevance.
	And this is the problem is not having a specific goal.
	If Occupy Wall Street said, our specific goal is to demand that Jamie Dimon steps down as CEO of J.P.
	Morgan and from the New York Federal Reserve Bank chair position.
	Or demand a return of Glass-Steagall, or that the trillions of stolen bailout be clawed back.
	Right, but I mean, those demands require a bit more process and time, whereas a regime change, like Hosni Mubarak in Egypt, I mean, once he got the message, he had to step down.
	Yeah, so we put out a simpler demand to show the power of the movement that makes sense.
	Hey, step down Jamie Dimon, and by the way, we want criminal investigations.
	Right.
	And now people will say, well, you know, if you take one Jamie Dimon away, ten more like him will take his place.
	That's true.
	But you did demonstrate that the power of the group to affect the regime change.
	And if they put up somebody else who's like Jamie Dimon is a financial terrorist, then we're going to he's going to have to step down, too.
	So the regime change is a very specific goal.
	If you do this, then Unilever and Ben and Jerry's would not want to attach themselves to your movement.
	Because suddenly it's got a specific goal and they themselves rely on Jamie Dimon for financing and JPMorgan for financing.
	So by law, their fiduciary responsibility would preclude them from being anywhere near the Occupy Wall Street demands.
	So this is why having a specific goal is paramount to galvanizing an action that will allow this movement to have some success.
	It's just going to get bigger and bigger and bigger until it's co-opted by corporate America and you'll start to see commercials on TV with Ben and Jerry down at Occupy Wall Street eating some new flavor of ice cream like, you know, Occupy, Occupy Cream Pie or something like that.
	Yeah, and it'll become just another part of that American fudge that just kind of permeates everything that we do, where everything's great, don't worry, Disney is here to rescue you, and it just goes down the drain.
	I tried to reach out to these groups.
	And the so-called leaders, they claim there's no leaders, but there really are Democratic Party operatives.
	Move on, they're all involved.
	And it's just the left wing of the same military industrial banking complex.
	I mean, look at Obama, the wars, the torture, the extrajudicial killings, and now quoting Bush statements by his evil lawyers, you know, as the excuse for him to act as an imperial legate.
	Hundreds of nations have fallen to tyranny in the last century alone.
	This is our last chance to not relive history.
	As they're finishing off this agenda, they'll be pulling the rug from underneath Americans at home.
	I have tremendous influence on our President and Congress, and they really are calling the shots.
	I think it's incumbent upon all of us
	Tim Geithner, Bernanke, they're arsonists!
	They're asking for more matches!
	And the Congress is saying, who do we make the check out to?
	Today seems like nobody does care.
	And right now in Washington D.C.
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	Well, she's on the show!
	The one, the only, Roseanne Barr.
	She's an American actress, comedian, writer, television producer, and director.
	She worked doing stand-up comedy until 85 appearance on The Tonight Show, brought her to the limelight.
	She is most famously known for her role in the ABC hit sitcom, uh, Roseanne, which ran for nine seasons from 88 to 97.
	Uh, Barr won an Emmy and a Golden Globe, a Kids' Choice Award, and three American Comedy Awards for her part in the show.
	And on January 4, 2011, she released her third book titled Rose Anarchy Dispatches from the Nut Farm.
	And so she's gotten a lot of national attention in the last week.
	And there she is on the book cover for presentplanet.tv viewers dressed up, I guess, like Che Guevara with an AK-47 with bombs dropping behind her.
	No, it's not Che Guevara.
	Who is it?
	It's all of them.
	It's every despot in the world, including Rush Limbaugh.
	That's what the cigar is for.
	No.
	I'm for the creation of an entirely new economic system.
	Entirely new.
	Well, one that works.
	I'd like to establish a system that actually is based on solutions to actual problems that exist in the world, rather than the exploitation of those problems for the enrichment of a few.
	Okay, tell us, then you've got the floor, tell us what the problems are and then what some basic solutions are.
	Oh boy, well, you know, the problems are that we don't think, we're not thinking outside of the box, basically, and we need to get out of our mind control program and come up with solutions to problems that exist in the world.
	Number one, hunger.
	We have to come up with a, you know, a way to get the food to the hungry.
	And if you saw, you know, which is like something that I think about a lot and, you know, a lot of people smarter than me think about too.
	And a lot of people smarter and dumber than me don't think about that ever.
	And, you know, I just think it's something that we should call attention to.
	Actual problems of actual human beings instead of systems that don't work and obsolete ways of thinking about things.
	Why did you agree to come on this show?
	Max Keiser sent us an email over and then we were contacted and I was flattered.
	Why did you agree to come on this show?
	I mean, I would imagine you're getting asked on thousands of programs.
	I've just listened to you a lot and I think we have a lot that we agree on and there's a lot that we don't agree on also.
	But I really think that Americans and people in the world should start concentrating on things that they do agree with each other on so that we can arrive at solutions a lot faster.
	Well, I think... So, you know, I mean, we don't agree on a lot of things, obviously, but we do on others, so why not?
	Okay, well, then, just so my audience can really... Because that was my idea today.
	Sure.
	I wanted to get you on and not just yell at you or disagree.
	I wanted to say, were you serious about this quote or what's your true view?
	I mean, the real Roseanne Barr.
	But before we do that, because we're going to come to a break and come back and some stations join us then, what are some of the things you disagree with me on?
	Because I'm curious.
	I don't know.
	Why don't you ask me some questions?
	Okay, the Second Amendment.
	That's better.
	The Second Amendment.
	Well, you know, we probably agree there.
	I agree on all of the things that already exist, and I think that the only thing we don't agree on are economics.
	Isn't that true?
	Sure, I mean, look, if you believe in the right to keep and bear arms and defend yourself... I have guns, hell yeah, I have guns, rifles, hell yes I do believe, absolutely believe that.
	Okay, well when a woman starts saying hell yes about guns, I'm starting to find you really attractive right now.
	I'm a hell of a shot, I'll tell you that.
	I've always had a gun, I've always had a rifle, because I'm a farmer, you know, besides, you know, I've always been...
	Roseanne, we gotta go to break.
	Long segment coming up.
	Wow, this is dynamite.
	Roseanne Barr is on with us and I learned she's a listener.
	And Jaron, by the way, is a big fan out there.
	He's out there bowing down right now saying he's not worthy.
	We'll be right back after this quick break with Roseanne Barr.
	I'm Alex Jones with InfoWars.com.
	Stay with us.
	A very wealthy U.S.
	citizen is predicting that in 2011, we will witness the most important day in America in more than 50 years.
	He says it will change everything about our lives.
	The way you shop, travel, invest, educate your children, and even how you take care of your health and your own family.
	Now, this man has made some outrageous predictions over the years.
	The crazy part is, he's usually right.
	You see, he predicted the collapse of GM, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and America's biggest mall owner, General Growth Properties.
	In fact, Barron's called his work a dire prophecy.
	Recently, he created a video, which you can watch online for free, detailing his biggest and most important prediction yet.
	And it's a real eye-opener.
	I can't stress this enough.
	You should at least watch this free video online today.
	He explains everything you need to know, including simple steps you can take to protect yourself.
	You can find the video at www.barronjones.com
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	Well, not one to shrink away from controversy, Roseanne Barr, who needs no introduction, on Max Keiser's TV show over the weekend, said, hey, re-education camps for the bankers if they won't, uh...
	You know, pay more money in taxes if they make over $100 million a year or off with their heads.
	And so we found out she was a listener and we were excited to get her on and I was talking to her during the break.
	She says she even post our videos and things on her own blog when she agrees with us.
	So we're going to explore all of that today and find out if she's serious about the things she said and let her basically elaborate on it.
	Roseanne, one of the biggest stories in the country was your statements.
	Would you like to expand on those or clarify them?
	Well, you know, I gave a speech on Mother's Day last year in front of the White House where I
	You know, uh, announced my candidacy for President of the United States of America as well as Prime Minister of Israel.
	It's a twofer.
	And it was based on, uh, the, you know, declaring patriarchal politics obsolete, and I called for, uh, the dawn of, uh, divine matriarchy to ascend to the planet.
	So, uh, that's kind of the context in which I spoke all of those things.
	But, you know, it's like I said in the last segment, Alex.
	I'm for a complete, completely new way of looking at things that, you know, is congruent with the whole new century.
	So, I just want to leave everything behind that doesn't work, which is basically everything, and start something new that actually does work and actually has, you know, a time limit to when problems can be solved.
	Like, so I said that within the first year of my presidency that I would legalize marijuana and end all wars, make war illegal, forgive all American debt and student loans, and, you know, I made some big statements.
	But if I am elected president of these United States, I will guarantee those things within the first 100 days of my presidency.
	What about your statement specifically, and we can play them again, but elaborate on re-education camps, chopping off... Well, I was talking about the people, you know, the people, the taxpayers of this country, as well as the citizens of this country.
	Have a right to seek justice for what's been done to them and people everywhere in every government all citizenry Demand justice and a system of just laws that they can actually exist under am I right?
	Yes, so I was saying that you know when an entire country has been fleeced and robbed there needs to be a different set of just there needs to be a different kind of justice that doesn't allow for that and that actually punishes the guilty so
	My statement was, you know, to explore what is the definition of guilty.
	And, uh, that, uh, you know, it means being tried in a court not heavily weighted in your favor as now.
	Like, none of these bankers are being arrested.
	And if, you know, like, beside Martha Stewart, who's the only person who's ever been arrested for any kind of, like, insider trading.
	But, you know, once they're arrested, uh, they would actually be tried in a court of law that they have not fought and paid for.
	So that's kind of what I'm, you know, pointing out the way things actually work.
	In our country.
	So, you know, I'm trying to speak about a new definition of guilty and it's like the worst of the worst of the worst of the guilty, you know, need to pay a price for what they've done.
	And specifically, were you serious about people make a cap of $100 million a year?
	Total wealth, $100 million.
	In my opinion, there's absolutely no reason for anybody to be a bigger pig than to own $100 million.
	It's just a pig culture that allows people to starve in the streets and other people have $100 million.
	I believe in normalization of economic revenue.
	What about people like Michael Moore, who I've read is worth around $200 million, constantly lecturing people that capitalism itself is bad?
	I mean, what do you think of Michael Moore, A, and his statement that capitalism is the problem?
	Well, he's a very dear friend of mine and, you know, in many ways I agree with a lot of what he says, like you Alex, and in a lot of other ways I don't agree with many of the things that he says because I'm not, you know, I'm not just about dogma, I'm for human beings being able to speak to each other, particularly when they don't agree and come to a solution somewhere in the middle.
	But yes, I would take his wealth if it's over $100 million.
	Although I would be more forgiving towards Michael because I know how many people and how many organizations he does support.
	So, you know, I would make some allowances.
	I mean, it isn't just
	You know, I wouldn't be, you know, like, stalling or anything.
	Well, there's always, there's always people that make... I wouldn't take all of Oprah's, either, because she does good things.
	Like, you know, if people were doing good things with over $100 million, besides figuring out, sitting in little cubicles and figuring out how to move numbers so that they can steal more money, I would be more forgiving towards them.
	My issue is Michael Moore is calling for a middle class tax increase, then that money is stolen and paid to bankers in banker bailouts.
	So when I talk to the classical mainline left out there, I try to explain to them that big socialist systems actually get financed by the offshore banks because they can then take control of the government and steal that wealth.
	I absolutely agree with you on that.
	And like I say, and people should know, I consider myself left of some and not left of others.
	So I'm more of a person in the middle.
	Whatever works.
	Now, what was this point about re-education camps?
	I wouldn't want to immediately behead the guilty who've stolen the entire wealth of communities and created poverty and terror within every community on earth that they've gone to and devalued the currency and then brought about food shortages shortly after.
	Because I'm a compassionate human, I would allow them to like actually go and be re-educated.
	It wouldn't be straight to the guillotine.
	It would be to the guillotine when they are found guilty and do nothing about it and try to continue.
	Then they would be beheaded.
	So I think that, you know, I have it laid out to be as fair as anybody's ever been.
	Alright, so you're definitely not an anti-death penalty person?
	No, I love the death penalty, and I just wish that we would use it against the guilty rather than the innocent.
	It seems like we rush to kill a lot of people who are, you know, not proven, you know, like Troy Davis.
	I mean, a lot of people wonder if the guy was innocent or not in a flawed system, but yet Casey Anthony walks free.
	So I just think that we need to rethink everything so that it makes sense and that it's one
	Okay, let's take your book cover for a moment.
	You are dressed up.
	It looks like Che Guevara with a cigar.
	And earlier, you said, no, no, no.
	The cigar symbolizes... No, no, no.
	Tell us what your book cover means.
	Well, I guess that, you know, my meaning there might have been lost, but it is about all despots.
	You'll see, like, you know, there's the Mao in there with the red star and the whole... You know, it's about all male despots that I'm kind of, like, taking over for.
	Getting rid of them, bringing me on.
	Rose Anarchy, if you read the book, is full of solutions to, you know, everyday problems that people face in a comical way.
	I never get why, because I see this on the street with some of the anarchists, they dress with communist stars on and call for communism, but call themselves anarchists.
	And I always wonder why that's the most popular combination.
	I would think it's communism is pretty much the opposite.
	I know they say in the endgame of communism, the state withers away, but that never seems to happen.
	That's true, but in Rose Anarchy, it would definitely not need to wither away because the state would not even exist.
	I just think mothers and grandmothers, Alex, they know how to run neighborhoods and that's what Rose Anarchy is about.
	Now would this be a dictatorship of women?
	I would call myself the titular head of the grandmother's tribunal that would bring in a world of solutions from top to bottom.
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	I remember when, I remember, I remember when I lost my mind.
	Now, where would the guillotines be located?
	Probably in the public square, right in front of the White House, I think.
	Because that's the center of people's politics, so that's probably the best place.
	That's a real nice park there.
	How many heads do you think will be chopped off?
	Um, you know, not too many.
	I think that once they knew that there was ultimate justice headed their way, that they would really change their tune.
	And, you know, I think that people should be forced to share and forced to care.
	I really do.
	Now, wait a minute, though, because I understand this is feminine, divine goddess stuff that you're offering us.
	What I'm trying to get at here, though, Roseanne, is Stalin and Malinow them, they were making people share.
	I mean, how is this going to be different then?
	It will be smaller groups of people taking care of each other, you know, instead of like one, a huge, monolithic, unbendable bureaucracy that does nothing but rob people.
	Sure.
	Let's shift gears for a moment, if we may, and you can bring up any subject you'd like.
	This is riveting information.
	What do you think of Obama and his Wall Street connections, I've never seen stronger ones, you may disagree, and the field of Republican candidates?
	Oh, well, you know, I'm thinking of running as a Republican.
	I'm just telling you that because I think that everything I say isn't that much weirder than the things they say, which was kind of my point.
	But Obama, I did not vote for Obama and I, you know,
	I knew that Obama got more Wall Street money than anybody ever had gotten before, and I was really scared because a large percentage of the money he got came from nuclear power corporations that have to do with that, so I was horrified by that.
	Well, we have to have somebody as our president.
	What do you think of Jesse Ventura?
	Because I think I'm better than all of them.
	What do you think about Jesse Ventura, or is he bad, too?
	I like him.
	Actually, I really love that guy.
	Do you like him?
	Yeah, he's a good friend of mine, but he has huevos, though, and you're saying this needs to be a woman thing.
	No, I would allow males to serve if they have half a brain in their head, and I do think that Jesse Ventura has more than half of a brain in his head, so I would allow him to actually serve our structure.
	He has a lot of ethics too.
	I interviewed him when I did a radio show also, and before he got his television show, he's just a great thinker.
	He is really a nice guy.
	And he's more of a libertarian, though.
	I don't know if he'd like a dictator.
	Yeah, but I'm a different kind of a dictator than the ones before.
	I'm a good dictator.
	I understand.
	The first in history.
	Yes, absolutely.
	The first in history.
	Okay.
	Oh, man.
	Okay.
	What about Ron Paul?
	What do you think of Ron Paul?
	You know, like again, there's just so many brilliant things that he says and stands for, and I agree with most of it, but I don't, you know, the libertarian thing, I don't know, and I don't see any real feminist subtext to any of it, so I'm not... I just think he's into freedom for everybody.
	Huh?
	I just think he's into total freedom, period.
	Just says freedom, period.
	Freedom for rich people and I just think like you shouldn't have a lot of freedom to rip off.
	You shouldn't have the right to have the freedom to rip off the wealth of the entire community.
	Yeah but Ron Paul would say they were able to do that because they controlled the government and used that monopoly of force.
	Now let's talk about Hank Williams.
	I don't disagree.
	Let's talk about Hank Williams Jr.
	The full clip he said 89% want a fire all of Congress.
	I don't like any of the Republican candidates.
	And he went on to compare, he didn't say who was Hitler, but he said Benjamin Netanyahu and Hitler like Boehner, I mean Boehner and Obama.
	Do you think he should have lost his Monday night football gig over that?
	No.
	I don't think anybody should, you know, I think we should have freedom of speech.
	The guy, you know, he makes a lot of people, he made a lot of people mad with that.
	But, you know, a lot of people
	I don't agree with what he said but I understand the spirit in which he said it because I've been drunk a lot too.
	I understand.
	Let's talk about 9-11 truth.
	You say you've been a listener for a while, and we know governments stage the Gulf of Tonkin to get us into Vietnam, and we know that Hitler blew up the Reichstag to set up a police state and go from an elected leader to a dictator in Germany.
	So we know governments and corporations stage things to blame it on their enemies throughout history.
	So I don't think it's crazy to then question
	The official story of 9-11, it has a lot of holes in it.
	Roseanne, what did you think the day of 9-11, and since then, what is your view of that tragic event?
	Well, you know, I'm for, like, you know, I definitely think we need to keep investigating until everybody's satisfied that they've heard the truth.
	So, you know, but I, you know, I agree with a lot of the stuff that truthers, as they're called, say, and I don't agree with a lot of other things that they say.
	What do you agree with?
	I mean, like, Building 7, we have police saying, get back, they're going to blow it up, and then there's a bomb blast, and it falls at freefall.
	Yeah, I know all that.
	I mean, I read all the stuff about that, too, and a lot of people always send me, you know, a lot of information that I post on my blog Rosanneworld.com about it.
	So, you know, I don't know, but I think it's definitely worth a huge look.
	You know what I mean?
	What do you think?
	Oh, I know it was a completely synthetic manufactured event.
	Our government just gave al-Qaeda control of Libya and gave them thousands of heat-seeking missiles and are already saying they need to invade Libya from the liberators they put in and then I've got to let the TSA stick their hands down my pants or grab my wife's breast or molest my children or al-Qaeda is gonna shoot a rocket at me.
	What's your view of the TSA?
	Oh, I just, it drives me out of my mind.
	But, you know, it just drives me out of my mind.
	But I don't want to go through and get the radiation because, I mean, I'm an old woman.
	So, I mean, I've been radiated so many times, you know, mammograms, teeth, everything.
	I don't need any more radiation.
	I don't think any more citizens do either.
	So, I always opt out and, you know, just, you know, they inspect you by hand.
	But, you know, I always kind of think that it's kind of cool that I do that so that people can see it happening to me.
	So I kind of offer myself and just stand there.
	Because I just want Americans to realize that that is happening, that they do grope old women.
	And, you know, again, wake up and look at it.
	Well, I know that I won't fly with my family because of it, and now they're trying to set up domestic checkpoints.
	They grope everybody from the ankles up to the neck to get into an NFL game now.
	And then they tell you, too, they go, uh, now I'm going to use the back of my hand to touch
	Your genital area.
	I won't use my palm.
	It's just so friggin' ridiculous that I actually kind of, I mean, I hate to make light of it, but we kind of have to laugh more.
	Because I think laughing things to scorn is really powerful.
	So I always just stand there and everybody, hey, look, there's Roseanne from, or else they think, Rosie O'Donnell and she's getting felt up.
	I mean, I just think that the more visible we can be, the better.
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	You want answers?
	Well, so does he.
	He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
	And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
	Well, he is the second most listened to radio talk show host in the world.
	16 million on terrestrial radio, a couple million more on the internet and XM, Sirius, all those other systems.
	And I've been reading the trade publications, if he continues to grow within six months to a year, he will be undisputed number one radio talk show host in the world, eclipsing the great one in talk radio, Rush Limbaugh.
	Uh, now we're joined by, of course, George Norrie.
	We've only got him for about 35 minutes or so, because I guess we're keeping him up from his sleep right now, getting ready for his show tonight.
	I don't know when the guy sleeps.
	I actually talk to him in the morning sometimes, the afternoon.
	But George Norrie joins us and...
	A subject, I don't get into some of the subjects George covers.
	You know, he took the show seven, eight years ago in a new direction, covering more political stuff and hardcore issues, and we appreciate that.
	But he does get into some of the metaphysical.
	But one area I have covered, just because I've talked to family that's experienced it, to Colonel Craig Roberts and others that have experienced it, people who die do go over to the other side.
	People who are aboriginal Indians, have never read Western culture or Bible, have the same experience with angels, golden gates,
	Some people go to hell and come back, but George has gone further with Talking to the Dead, Coast to Coast AM host George Norrie.
	A new book that's now available at Amazon.com, and I've actually ordered one and intend to read it because I'm fascinated with the other side.
	Who isn't?
	I want to get into the book, but then obviously in a limited time, George, pick your brain about a couple other issues.
	I've been great and I work late a lot so sometimes when I'm up doing stuff I listen to Coast to Coast AM a couple days a week and then don't get any sleep because I get addicted listening.
	Well we get addicted every time you're on the program too.
	I can see the skewing in our ratings Alex every time you're on Coast to Coast people just
	Love what you're doing.
	And I've got to tell you, the alternative world is no longer the alternative world.
	The things that you do and the things that we've been doing, I think, are becoming regular, important issues worldwide.
	And everything we've talked about over the years, everything, seems to be coming true.
	And I find that to be not only startling,
	But absolutely riveting, and listeners are beginning to appreciate that.
	I know.
	I mean, you went out on a limb, I don't know, eight years ago when you took over Coast to Coast, weeknights.
	A lot of people were, wow, this guy's really getting into 9-11 truth, world government, Federal Reserve.
	And now, I don't want to say we've become passé because we're always pioneering and more cutting edge, but now you've got Glenn Beck and all of them becoming incredibly popular covering a lot of the same subjects.
	Absolutely, and of course, I will give you credit where credit is due.
	You were the one who paved the way for everybody to do this.
	I mean, you know, when I came in, Coast to Coast was the paranormal show.
	You know, as a matter of fact, people would say, oh, that's the UFO show.
	And that is now a small portion of what we do, because this world has changed.
	You know, for the last 10 years,
	This world has gone into such a metamorphosis that if we as broadcasters did not keep pace with that, did not change, did not alter the things we did,
	We would have been gone and we had to adjust.
	And I'm just glad that I was able to get convinced by people who called me about you years ago saying, you got to listen to this guy.
	Because as you know, originally I said, what do I want to promote another talk show host guy for?
	But then, you know, I said, you know what?
	He's not just a talk show host guy.
	He's a truth seeker.
	And we've got to do that on this planet.
	Well, you certainly do it on your show.
	You know, you talk about the paranormal and stuff, kind of taking a back seat or being a third of the show now, and I like that direction, but I gotta admit, that some of those shows, and I'm always dealing with such, you know, in-your-face things, that's the show where I'm driving home at 1 a.m.
	where I'm actually looking in the back seat behind me.
	That's the show when I get into the house, I go ahead and grab some orange juice and fire up the computer and
	Flick on the AM Radio 590 here locally and listen.
	So I think it's really a great mix and you're a master talk show host and just amazing, George.
	And folks, people know I don't kiss up to people.
	I mean, George really is a master at what he does.
	I mean, take Austin, Texas.
	You've got a 50 share, I saw a month or so ago in the newspaper.
	And in some areas, you've got a 60 share.
	I mean, we're talking about of all radio period, you've got more than half the listeners
	It's growing.
	It's a phenom and I think what we've done is we've touched the pulse.
	Of Americans, and they are looking for information, they're looking for people to tell them the truth, and that's what we're doing.
	And as you were talking about the latest book, Talking to the Dead, as I was leaving the studio last night, in the wee hours of the morning, I saw what I thought was a dead person outside of our studio door.
	I kid you not.
	Some guy, just flat on his face, with his coat over his head, in pitch black,
	He was dead.
	He looked dead.
	A security guard came out and kicked him and the guy started snoring.
	And he said, oh my gosh, I better call the cops and get him away.
	This planet is going through so many weird things right now.
	I can't keep track of them.
	Can you?
	No, I can't.
	In fact, I've reached total overload with the amount of craziness that's going on.
	Tell us about your book.
	Well, the book is called Talking to the Dead, and it is a book about the spirit world and what people are trying to do to communicate with the other side.
	And it is truly one of the most incredible stories I've ever, ever have done.
	I wrote the book, Alex, with Rosemary Ellen Guiley, who's an expert in the paranormal.
	And she is a great researcher and the two of us started investigating the various ways that people are trying to communicate with the other side.
	And it's really uncanny.
	There are some hucksters out there and some frauds, but there are also some people out there who truly think that they can communicate with those on the other side.
	Maybe one day you're going to feel a phone call from someone who's passed on.
	Maybe Abe Lincoln will
	Well, I'm going to say this.
	Because of the political things I get into, I stay out of this because of how it would be used.
	But I've had some interesting experiences in my life.
	I'm going to leave it at that.
	And there is a lot going on on this planet out in space that we haven't figured everything out yet.
	In fact, I don't think we've figured out
	1% of what's happening, but what about this?
	I know there are hucksters out there claiming they communicate with the dead, but there's also people who do believe they are, and it surely may be happening.
	I know that the near-death experiences, when people actually die, they're experiencing similar things.
	People I really respect, they come back with new knowledge, but what about hucksters on the other side?
	What about when a lot of Christians believe that these are actually demons masquerading as the dead,
	With this whole necromancy situation.
	That's absolutely true.
	You just never know what's on the other side.
	You don't know what's coming across these various portals.
	I don't play with Ouija boards anymore because you never know what you're going to get.
	And a lot of people who are extremely spiritual and religious think that we're being tricked.
	You know, it's the work of the devil.
	I do too!
	Yes.
	Well, it's like the movie They Live, the sunglasses are now going on.
	George, I want to come back in the next little segment or two that we have with you.
	You've got to go at 40 after or so, because I know you're busy.
	And get into Occupy Wall Street, the globalists, what you think from your deep research and all the experts you've talked to, their master plan is.
	But first, spend a few minutes, because I wanted to get you on this.
	I saw the book had just come out, and you don't like to toot your own horn, but I've read your past books.
	They're excellent.
	Give us a snapshot of this new book.
	Talking to the Dead is a book that will help people understand what happens to all of us when it's time to chuck out and go to the other side.
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	Hundreds of nations have fallen to tyranny in the last century alone.
	This is our last chance to not relive history.
	As we're finishing off this agenda, they'll be pulling the rug from underneath Americans at home.
	We have tremendous influence on our President and Congress, and they really are calling the shots.
	I think it's incumbent upon all of us
	Bernanke?
	Tim Geithner?
	They're arsonists!
	They're asking for more matches!
	And the Congress is saying, who do we make the check out to?
	Today seems like nobody does care.
	And right now in Washington, D.C., we have seen a fall of the Republic.
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	In the beginning, a patriot is a scarce man, hated and feared and scorned.
	But in time, when his cause succeeds, the timid join him, because then it costs nothing to be a patriot.
	You can certainly say that about George Norring.
	Here's another quote.
	Thomas Jefferson, enlighten the people generally, and tyranny and oppressions of body and mind will vanish like phantoms at dawn.
	Coast2CoastAM.com.
	Coast2CoastAM.com.
	Is that the best website, George, for people to visit?
	Yeah, it sure is.
	I've asked them to try to get other domains that tie us and link us straight into Coast2Coast, but you've got to put the T-O in the middle of Coast2Coast.com.
	I've always told people, Alex, make it one of your favorites on your computer so you don't have to type it up all the time.
	But, you know, that's boring, too.
	But, I mean, your website's InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.
	They're huge!
	I mean, they're absolutely huge!
	I get calls every other day from people about you.
	I get emails about you.
	Enough about me, George!
	We got you on here!
	I want to talk to you, but speaking of that, I'm...
	I heard you just mentioning that.
	Obviously the execs on the big network you're on know that you're talented, Emmy award winning news producer from TV, all this stuff.
	But at the same time, all they've got to do is create a simpler domain that will also point at that one, and I would bet that would probably increase your traffic by 30%.
	That's conservative.
	I heard you just kind of throw that out there, but you guys have got to create a simpler domain.
	Absolutely.
	I think, for example, try it out for me.
	I have it.
	If you do georgenorry.com, I think it takes you straight to our website as well.
	Well, that's good, Dan.
	I'm not getting off into radio land.
	I can learn a lot more from you than you can learn from me, but you obviously already know that.
	I want to go to a few calls here in the time we have for you.
	George, is there anything else before I go to calls?
	Because I know you've got a leaf thing that you'd like to add.
	Well, I just want everybody to know, Alex, that even though it seems like we are in the middle of all this mess, I am still extremely positive about the long-term future of America and of its people.
	We're going to go through some incredible times.
	We may go through some world wars.
	But I still think, in the end, humanity is going to make it.
	And one day, one day, this will be a better place
	Well, no doubt, things have to get bad before people start to appreciate true freedom again.
	Let's talk to Kerry in Georgia.
	You're on the air with George Norrie, Kerry.
	Hey, Alex.
	Hey, George.
	I wanted to tell you, thank you, George.
	I've been trying to get through to my dad.
	He's 68 years old.
	I've been trying to wake him up.
	And I tell you, the morning that he called me, he says, have you ever listened to this guy, George Norrie?
	And I said, I knew that I had gotten through to him.
	And it was because of your program.
	Well, thank you.
	Thank you for that.
	So many family members, Gary and Alex, have gotten together now as a group, as a family, the son, the father, and they start listening to Coast to Coast.
	And it's something that allows them to talk and get closer to each other.
	It's a really great feeling for me to know that this program is touching so many lives, whether it's alternative medicine or conspiracy theories.
	Well, George, you know what Superman's uncle tells him.
	With great power comes great responsibility.
	I've learned the responsibility of having 3 million listeners a day.
	What's it like to have 16 million or more?
	I mean, that is quite a responsibility.
	Alex, I'll let you in on a little secret.
	I broadcast to one person every night.
	And when you do that, when you do that, you touch everybody.
	You're right.
	So I don't think of how many people are listening, because if I did, I'd probably lose it and go crazy.
	You've got to broadcast just to one person, touch that one person, and you'll see the difference.
	Imagine how many sports stadiums of 100,000 people is 16 million.
	I mean, that is incredible.
	I think about speaking to millions and it's like, wow.
	Or making a film that's watched by 30 million people.
	It's incredible.
	Did you want to ask any questions, Kerry, before we jump?
	Yeah, well, I had a couple of interesting things I wanted to ask you about.
	Mostly how you see Daryl Issa and Chuck Grassley.
	You'll hear them talking about Eric Holder and the five memos of July 2010.
	But you never hear anybody mention that the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act had $10 million of funding for Gunrunner and it.
	And you never hear anybody talk about the Department of Homeland Security.
	But see, you just dropped a bombshell.
	I knew that months ago, and had even forgotten to do a piece on it.
	The American Reinvestment Act had $10 million in it, and it's come out in testimony.
	The White House was running this.
	Holder's been caught lying.
	Now we learn it's cocaine into the U.S.
	for guns to Sinaloa.
	The big cartel.
	George Noria, that's a great question.
	What's your view on this Fast and Furious?
	Is this Obama's Waterloo?
	It may be, if it continues to grow and fester.
	Bottom line, Alex, this has been going on for a long, long time.
	Years ago, I had Daniel Ellsberg on the program, Pentagon Papers.
	He was the one who pointed out and showed everybody how Lyndon Johnson lied about everything at the Vietnam War.
	Governments generally lie to its population.
	It's a sad fact.
	I don't know what happens to honest politicians when they get into office, but something happens to them, and they begin to do things that are just unbelievable.
	And in this particular case, if the media stays on it, Holder will probably get tossed out as the Attorney General, and who knows what it would do for President Obama's administration.
	Well, George, I've talked to a lot of high-level people.
	What happens is, whatever your fancy is, it shows up with a bow on it, and they just compromise these people.
	Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
	George has got to go here in just a few minutes.
	Let's take another call.
	Tommy in Tennessee, you're on the air with George Norrie.
	Hey, George.
	Hey, Alex.
	How you doing?
	Good, good.
	First of all, I'd like to say that the wife and I go into a prayer of agreement every night and every morning for the protection of the crew, you guys, and Ron Paul's family.
	And also, are you there?
	Yes, sir.
	I appreciate the prayer.
	Okay.
	And also, George, one of my favorite episodes of yours was Patrick Heron on May 4th on the 3rd Hour.
	And we keep hearing about the global government.
	We keep hearing about the global economy.
	Well, now Rick Warren
	Oprah Winfrey, I think she's a nice lady.
	I think she's deceived.
	She's funding some new age-y church system.
	The UN says they want a world religion, George.
	Well, I have not been a proponent of organized religion, Alex.
	You know, I'm a believer in God.
	Trust me there.
	And I think everybody has that God-given right to practice and worship the way they want.
	But I've just never been a fan of organized religion.
	I mean, I've seen what the churches have done.
	I've seen what they've tried to do for money.
	It's just something that I feel we don't need as individuals.
	Pray and practice within yourself.
	You can reach your God that way and it's you know what less cost effect believe Absolutely.
	Thank you so much Tommy.
	Let's do one more then I'll continue with your calls for George's gotta go though.
	When do you get shut out George?
	Well, I'll take a little nap after this and then I'll be ready to go again for another 12-hour day on coast to coast am Last call for George.
	Let's talk to Matt in Ohio Matt.
	You're on the air
	Thanks for taking my call.
	I think we're really to a tipping point and to George's point earlier that, you know, people really seem, you know, kind of maybe depressed or just perhaps impotent.
	But I think we're right around the corner politically.
	Once people, because we're reaching a point where the vast majority of people want some of the same changes politically, you know, the vast majority want to end the wars and draw down troops to some level or another.
	And as we push back against the elite, they get more and more clownish.
	I think that's a good final question for George Norrie, George.
	One of my favorite lines from the movie network from Howard Beale played by the late Peter Finch was, just leave us alone.
	Leave us with our toasters and our radio tires and our televisions.
	Just leave us alone, please.
	But then he stopped and said, I'm as mad as hell.
	I'm not going to take it anymore.
	And I think that's what's happening to people around this planet.
	They're as mad as hell.
	They're not going to take it anymore.
	And governments worldwide should be very aware of that and start realizing it.
	I think that people come first.
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