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You want answers?
Well, so does he.
He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
Welcome, it is Monday, the 25th day of July, 2011.
We're going to be live here for at least the next three hours.
Obviously, we're going to break down all the different angles that are very, very suspicious in the Norway bombing and shooting spree.
Now being used to, quote, crack down on conservatives worldwide, surveil conservatives, put conservatives on no-fly, no-gun buy list.
Now this is being called for just all over the mainstream corporate globalist media.
The Financial Times of London is running the headline today, Killer Personifies the Rise of the New Right.
And remember that show earlier in the year from MSNBC demonizing yours truly and Ron Paul claiming that we are calling for violence and editing clips of Ron Paul and myself?
Any regular listener knows we're calling for no violence if it's offensive.
We are for defending ourselves.
But this whole thing is about how we're going to cause violence and we're calling for it.
And it was called Rise of the New Right.
And then here's the Financial Times of London.
Killer personifies rise of the new right.
So we're going to be going over this today.
Also, we have Robert Jeppestule, who was on with us Friday, Sunday, and will be on with us today from Norway to get his take on all the latest developments.
It turns out that the shooter, Breivik, won't serve even 30 years in jail.
He'll serve less than 100 days per person that he's reportedly killed.
And now it turns out, this is on Channel 4 in England, their reporter talked to the police and other witnesses, that they knew Anders Breivik's name before they had arrested him.
And then as he's shooting people, they gave him a chance to put the gun down and turn himself in.
Very, very bizarre.
And it is confirmed now he is a high-level mason.
He is part of the real Knights Templar organization that still meets in England.
And so he will go to basically a five-star Norway and Austria are known for having literal country club prisons.
And that he will live a lavish lifestyle for less than 30 years.
Let me pull up the exact
Yes, 21 years.
See, my mind has trouble dealing with this.
Excuse me.
So I was imagining more years for him.
It's 21 years or 80.
Can't hear you.
How many days?
80 days per death.
So 82 days per death and 21 years total in a lavish facility.
So we're going to be going over all of this.
Anders Behring Breivik manufactured Patsy key article by Paul Joseph Watson where it's confirmed that his Facebook after he was arrested was altered.
And the fact that he's pro-gay, liberal, quote nationalist, and a bunch of other things that you wouldn't define him as a conservative or libertarian, that has all been removed.
All of the liberal stuff has been removed and the conservative stuff added.
So the question is, who did this to his Facebook?
Massive evidence of this being completely and totally staged.
And of course, the police arriving on the island and saying, hey, Braving, put your hands up.
The question is, how did they know that?
Got a lot of other news as well coming up.
Stay with us.
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Okay, my friends, we are live.
It is the 25th day of July 2011 on this Monday edition.
Popping back in with us, coming up in about 30 minutes, is one of the survivors of the bombing attack in Oslo, Norway, Robert
Jeff Stuhl, then we have Dr. Steve Pachinik joining us for about 45 minutes in the second hour, who he himself was involved overthrowing governments, running black ops, dirty tricks, things like that.
I haven't yet even asked him his view on this.
You know, he says the Bin Laden killing was fake, and 9-11's an inside job, but I want to get his take on what's happening in Europe, and we will find out together his view on this.
And then, of course, in the last 30 minutes of the broadcast today, Doctor of History Webster Tarpley, who is saying that clearly this is a false flag event.
We'll look at how they find mentally ill patsies and basically deploy them, help them, protect them, other shooters reportedly involved, and then basically put the mental patient on trial, just like the guy that shot Reagan, you know, moving towards release from prison, the guy that shot John Lennon moving towards release and for years allowed
Weekend release, if you talk about the guy that shot Reagan, meeting with the Bushes the night before for dinner, I mean, and then the government connections that were there.
This MKUltra mind control issue is very real, and if you go to the front page of InfoWars.com, we'll pull that up for PrisonPlanet.tv viewers, but for radio listeners, if you simply go to InfoWars.com, you can see Breivik
The reported shooter with the classic, completely insane smile of real satisfaction and getting attention.
Very, very proud of what he supposedly done.
He was not allowed to give a speech today at his arraignment.
But they read a statement saying he did this because of cultural Marxism.
That's a term I hear Michael Savage use.
That is a term that I hear ad nauseam being used, of course, by other big radio talk show hosts and conservatives.
The manifesto he put out worships neocondom.
It promotes homosexuality.
On his Facebook, he
Said that he was reportedly liberal on some issues, conservative on others.
That's all been removed off of his Facebook.
And in its stead, it's been added that he's a Christian conservative.
This was done after he was arrested.
So it needs to be a major investigation.
Now they're looking for the other two cells.
This is all right out of central casting that he said in his little statement today.
The other two cells that he has in Europe, and he alluded in his supposed manifesto, 1,500 pages, most of it plagiarized on record from the Unabomber and others.
He said that he's working with people in England.
And so now if you don't want England to be absorbed into the EU, if you don't want the European Union to take over your country, if you don't want banker bailouts, if you're pro-gun, as he reportedly was, well you're a murderer of children!
And we have the Financial Times of London and others saying this killer, this reported killer, because he's not allowed to really speak for himself, it's been done by the courts, so who knows what's really true.
Governments have such a history of lying, but now they're saying he's confessing to it,
And they're saying that he personifies, he personifies conservatism worldwide.
Killer personifies the rise of the new right.
And remember earlier in the year we had that MSNBC special, they aired it over and over again.
Chris Matthews, the rise of the new right special will scare the heck out of liberals, that's the Huffington Post.
And in it, they edit what Ron Paul and I say to imply that we're calling for a violent revolution and say that we're going to cause violence and that we're dangerous.
That's what you come away from the hour special with, is that Ron Paul is this deadly, dangerous devil.
And that Alex Jones is even more wicked and horrible, and that we're going to cause violence, and that's their complete angle.
Reuters is reporting, as well as Raw Story, Ron Paul within hailing distance of Obama in a new national poll, scientifically conducted.
Ron Paul's only four points behind Obama, nationally, at 37 percent.
The President's 41, doing better than the majority of other Republican contenders.
I don't know.
I don't think so.
All these other people, but they do not mention Ron Paul.
And when I hear the news, Fox News, on the radio, they don't mention Ron Paul, ever, in the polls, even when he wins the straw polls.
Or when he wins scientific polls.
And even the talk radio news that Genesis carries, because there's only a few choices out there, when I listen to it,
Yes.
And if they weren't propping up Mitt Romney, he would be the clear frontrunner.
But, I mean, they're neck and neck.
They're nose and nose.
It's a horse race right now where Ron Paul and Mitt Romney are right up there.
And of course, Pointy Boots will be coming in from behind the establishment's Deuce X, or ringer, to pose as Ron Paul, Rick Perry.
And so look for him to come swooping in very soon.
But Ron Paul is
Is a real contender and a lot of dirty tricks going on.
I want to open the phones up later in the hour after our first guest pops in with a quick perspectives on what a Norwegian.
Survivor is thinking and what other people are saying.
Let me give you the toll-free number to join us on any of the issues we've raised, but I would obviously like to hear from you on what you think about the Anders Breivik situation.
Obviously, we'll also be getting into financial news today.
The dollar has stumbled and tumbled today because of the Federal Reserve signaling they will continue to devalue the dollar.
When you hear that there's a strong dollar policy, really what that means is they want to make sure all other currencies drop with it.
And that's the G20 policy for at least three years, publicly, is coordinated devaluation of the euro, of the dollar, of the yen, of the yuan.
The West is always telling China, raise the price of your currency.
But behind the scenes, they want them to keep it the same or lower it.
Gold is an all-time record explosive high.
So that's continuing.
When I checked 20 minutes ago, it was at $1,622.49.
I'm told it's still rising in the middle of the summer.
Normally, the doldrums are the time when gold goes down in
I don't know.
Norway not going along and contributing money to the banker bailout even though they're outside of the euro.
Norway, one of the least restrictive gun control states, very constrictive and restrictive compared to the United States, now calls to
Restrict gun ownership there even more calls to have the EU and US anti-terror forces come in and basically take over the internal security apparatus of Norway killing their sovereignty further just like they're trying to do in Switzerland only a few sovereign countries left Norway is one of them Switzerland is one of them
And of course they had the Prime Minister of Norway at Bilderberg this year, very important point to note.
You had it now emerge, it emerged yesterday, in the last year, CIA secretly infiltrating along with NACO, the police departments, and the National Police Department in Norway.
And quote, recruiting senior police and retired police to fight terror secretly because the West was so worried about terror attacks in Norway.
Yes, the Muslims are going to attack Norway because Norway is for recognizing the Palestinians.
This is asinine.
So they didn't go with that because no one would buy it.
Instead, they went with the right-wing card.
A guy who's a high-level mason admitted, a member of the current Real Knights Templars, who wears Illuminati symbols all over his little uniforms with glamour shots and a 1,500-page treatise and a professional video.
And the police knew who he was when they arrived on the island and didn't shoot him, even though he was shooting people.
They said, uh,
Breivik.
Anders Breivik.
And he said yes and walked over to them and now seems quite pleased.
And their own government is reporting he will serve no more than 21 years.
Within a third of it being served, he will get weekends off and out.
Kind of like the guy that shot Ronald Reagan has been quietly, secretly getting out for a decade.
You can pull that up.
So we've got that report going on.
Headline, police knew gunman's name before arrest.
We're going to be breaking that down with Dr. Steve Pachinik.
Anders Breivik, manufactured Patsy.
You have his Facebook and other websites of his being changed after someone has his codes.
And he's saying, in at least this written statement now, that there's other cells in Europe about to strike.
But there's no discussion about, hey, we better find out who's changing his Facebook to Christian conservative from pro-gay liberal.
And we're going to be going over that article as well.
There's just so many serious anomalies on this front.
But it's also meant to create a clash of civilizations.
They're putting the call out for young European males to attack Muslims.
We'll talk about it when we come back.
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Okay.
So, the biggest piece of evidence that this is staged is that in Europe, in the United States, in Canada, in Australia, in New Zealand, globalist-controlled countries, or globalist-command-based countries, they control almost the entire planet, but the nations I just mentioned are the original wealthy, powerful engines that were taken over by them and now used to dominate the world.
In all those countries,
The controllers have been demonizing Christian right-wingers who don't want open borders, who don't want banker bailouts, who don't want to give up their cultures.
They've been saying they're going to strike, they're going to attack, it's going to happen.
So we saw the pre-scripting running up to this and a huge rollout last week ahead of this in Europe and the United States that right-wing, blonde-haired, blue-eyed al-Qaeda, right-wing al-Qaeda is going to strike.
Forget the Arabs now.
The West has taken all those countries over except for Iran.
They're overthrowing all their old allies, Mubarak and others.
They've got the Al-Qaeda forces attacking in Libya.
You're not supposed to talk bad about Al-Qaeda now.
Folks are tired of hearing about Al-Qaeda.
They're not scared of it anymore.
So enters the blonde-haired, blue-eyed Al-Qaeda.
And I said Thursday, I played this clip on The Sunday Show last night.
I said they're going to launch the blonde-haired, blue-eyed Al-Qaeda very soon.
I'm telling you it's imminent.
The next day it happened.
Less than 24 hours later.
So I could see the preconditioning.
That's why I was running around like a chicken with my head cut off.
And now you've got all these White House memos saying we need a new Oklahoma City or 9-11.
These are public.
Even Glenn Beck talked about this earlier in the year.
I've played the clip.
And in the memos they say, we'll blame Glenn Beck and Alex Jones.
Media Matters, all the rest of them are saying, oh yeah, there's going to be a new Oklahoma City.
And when it happens, it's Glenn Beck and Alex Jones' fault, and then Michael Savage is added on like a little side hors d'oeuvre sometimes.
But it's always Glenn Beck-Alex Jones.
But not always.
In the MSNBC special, it's Ron Paul-Alex Jones.
He'll rise to the new right.
We're going to cause the terror attack.
That's how the show ends.
We're violent.
We want violence.
They edit this clip out of Ron Paul talking about the Founding Fathers fighting tyranny and a clip of myself saying the Second Amendment is to defend us from tyranny.
And then they say, see, they want to kill liberals.
And that's always their talking point.
And then separately, you have White House advisors like Shapiro and others saying in the Financial Times of London,
In fact, will you guys search that so we can show it to PrisonPlanet.tv viewers so I can have the actual headline?
It's something like, uh...
Just search the term, Robert Shapiro tells Obama he needs a new Oklahoma City or 9-11.
That'll pull up our article and it'll have a link to the Financial Times of London story.
I think it's from January.
I want to show people that.
And he says, President, you need the terror attacks.
It's the only thing that will save our globalist agenda.
Now in the same Financial Times of London, which is the most elite publication in the world, this is where the globalists communicate with each other with very veiled
Innuendo.
I mean, it's thinly, thinly, thinly, thinly veiled.
I mean, you have Gary Hart writing articles for Huffington Post where he says, we do stage terror attacks, Iran.
You better do what we say or we'll stage one on you.
He didn't even veil that.
And we've interviewed him and asked him what he thought about it.
He said, yeah, no, our government stages attacks.
And I told Iran that, but that's a message for them, not for the American public.
See, globalists think region by region.
The big CFR terrorism preparation master on the Hart-Rubin Commission, Gary Hart, writes a letter openly to Iran saying we'll stage terror attacks.
There it is.
It's Financial Times of London and that came out
It actually came out last year, July 13th last year.
Wow, time flies.
Obama facing growing credibility crisis.
Financial Times of London, and you read into it, he says, barring a giant terror attack like Oklahoma City or 9-11, the president's agenda is dead.
Now, what did the same Financial Times of London say today?
Killer personifies rise of new far-right.
They're following a script.
What was the name of last year's MSNBC special that they've re-aired this year?
Rise of the New Right.
What do they say is going to happen?
We're going to kill people.
Let's go to break with Michael Savage breaking down that Obama was going to stage a Reichstag event.
And believe me, this Norway thing's a test.
It's coming here.
This is how they're going to shut the web off, come after tea partiers and conservatives.
I told you it was coming.
They've been beta testing it.
Now it's starting.
Here's the clip.
Now I'll make another prediction.
I predict that very soon, Obama will create a crisis along the lines of the Reichstag fire.
I don't know what form it will take, but I believe that once the minions are seen for what they are, Rahm Emanuel and his gang will set off a Reichstag fire in this country of some kind, and they will recall the military dictatorship of Lincoln and Stanton during the Civil War, when civilian suspects were arrested without warrant.
I will tell you as I sit here, I fear that every night as I go to sleep.
I put nothing past these agitators who have suddenly seized control of the most powerful economy and the most powerful military on Earth.
All right, we'll be right back.
Stay with us, ladies and gentlemen.
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Okay, we are back live, ladies and gentlemen.
I'd like to take some of your calls towards the end of this segment after our guest leaves us, who's about to pop in, a survivor of the attacks in Norway.
But finishing up what I was getting to in the last break, Obama faces growing credibility crisis.
And this is an article out of the Financial Times of London.
And when you go down to the bottom of the article, it says, the bottom line here is that Americans don't believe in President Obama's leadership, says Rob Shapiro, another former Clinton official.
And there's like eight of them now that have said the same thing, including people in the White House.
The bottom line here is that Americans don't believe in President Obama's leadership, says Rob Shapiro, another former Clinton official and a supporter of Mr. Obama.
He has to find some way between now and November of demonstrating that he is a leader who can command confidence and short of a new 9-11 event or an Oklahoma City bombing, I can't think of how he could do that.
Now, skip ahead to what's happening now.
And I've seen similar statements out of politicians in Europe.
People are like, why would government stage terror?
Why would Hitler firebomb his own Capitol?
Blame it on his enemies.
Why would he attack his own military base?
Start World War II and say that Poland did it.
I mean, folks who send me emails and call and go, I don't know why they'd want to do it.
Well, I don't know why the guy's saying he did it.
Really?
The guy's obviously completely insane.
They find and profile an insane person.
They use the Masonic Lodge to program him.
He's part of the Knights Templar, which still operates out of England, connected to all the right-wing groups.
It's the same story with the shooter of Reagan and of course, John Lennon.
I mean, if you go study both those cases, it is confirmed they both work for World Vision and were involved in weird CIA training camps in Africa and Lebanon.
You cannot make this stuff up.
And the family, the Lennon family, was on record at the time saying that the shooter of John Lennon was telling police that he was in a room, bright lights, men ordering him to do it, and they said, oh, he's just mentally ill, ignore that.
And it turned out, again, he worked for World Vision.
They use these missionary facilities for the brainwashing in third world countries.
And it was the same thing.
The head of World Vision's son then goes and shoots Ronald Reagan, and the night before is meeting with the Bush family.
That's Denver Post!
That's LA Times!
That's Washington Times!
You cannot make this stuff up!
Reagan was like, I'm the President Bush, sit down, shut up, I'm running things, and then he gets shot, goes and has some medical procedures done, and suddenly for the rest of Reagan's term, they had to drug him with speed to get him out of bed and give him cue cards to march him out.
Ronald Reagan was under mind control after that shooting.
After they got him in that military base for his treatment.
And again, this is all declassified.
MKUltra, MKNaomi.
By the 50s, they could create a totally programmed mind control assassin.
It would take a year of LSD, PCP, other drugs, pumped in,
Sensory deprivation, tanks, headphones, pumping programs in, to where when someone is given the code word order, they have a absolute, total, obsessive-compulsive need to kill their target.
And they slip into a hypnotized sub-personality to do it.
That's just one system.
They got History Channel shows about Dr. Ewan Cameron and Jolly and West and facilities in Maryland and Toronto where they did this 100% by the 50s and 60s.
Of course, Jolly and West is in those shows.
He just died two years ago.
Guess who was McVeigh's doctor from the time he was arrested in 95 until he was executed?
Go look up the news articles.
Dr. Jolion West, the number two head of all U.S.
government mind control programs, was publicly McVeigh's doctor.
And I've talked to prisoners and others here on air who knew McVeigh, and of course, signed affidavits have been made by Nichols and others, and FBI documents have been leaked, and it's been confirmed what they've said, that McVeigh's family was threatened with murder if he didn't go along with it.
He was U.S.
Special Forces setup, sheep-dipped, he was videotaped at a U.S.
military base in demolition section before he was released.
I'm going to our guest.
This is just so important.
Yeah, David Hammer was the prisoner we had on, one of the prisoners we had on about it.
That McVeigh, when he wasn't drugged up and when Wes wasn't there, because Jolene and Wes wasn't there every week, that McVeigh would say, yes, they set me up, but it doesn't matter, they're going to kill me.
And he also told newspapers that a few times.
Well, I'd tell you more, but I don't want my family to get hurt.
And it goes on and on and on.
So they can threaten to kill your family, or they can just grab you as a patsy, keep you drugged up, or they can find a mentally ill person who is handled and manipulated and protected to carry it out, or they've got flat-out MKUltra mind control.
Ladies and gentlemen, the North Koreans, who were able to capture some of our airmen, later released them, and the guys had to end up being locked up for the rest of their lives.
Same thing with the North Vietnamese, because they were programmed to come back here and kill people.
Okay, I mean, look, the Chi-Coms know how to do it, the North Koreans do.
This stuff is real.
You need to realize what's going on.
Okay, I'm gonna stop there.
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But finishing up, police knew Gunman's name before the arrest.
They show up on the island calling out his name.
That's Mainline, British Channel 4, and also Norwegian TV.
Anders Breivik,
Manufactured Patsy article by Paul Watson goes through the fact that they removed all the liberal stuff off his Facebook and posted that he was a Christian conservative.
They removed the Mason stuff.
It's confirmed he's high-level Mason.
Which again, I'm not saying all the Masons are New World Order.
Most of them are compartmentalized.
They use the secrecy of the Lodge for intelligence operations and mind control.
That's come out in England in this mainstream news.
So we've got the frame-up going on.
We've got him saying more cells are about to strike.
Going now for a quick pop-in, I take you to Robert Jeppestol.
And he joins us from the Netherlands in Oslo.
He's a 29-year-old, barely survived the blast.
It blew him back, but he wasn't injured.
He was marching right towards it, 200 feet away.
And we've already covered most of the waterfront on this, though they're now calling to
Track conservatives.
Track conservatives that give money to charities.
We can now be arrested just like the Muslims can for no reason.
The shutdown of conservative websites.
YouTube's added the link the week before to report things that quote promote terror.
MSNBC saying Ron Paul and I promote terror and are violent in their Rise of the Right special.
That's out in the news today.
Killer personifies Rise of the New Right.
It's good to be back.
Thank you, sir.
Well, first of all, I have not yet told the listeners how sorry I feel for the families and their friends.
Of the victims.
My deepest condolences are extended to you who have lost loved ones.
Today's news picture in Norway has been mostly the pre-trial or the jail hearing where, well, I for one certainly hoped that they would have an open hearing.
They didn't.
Well, that's a big issue, isn't it?
That they read what he supposedly said and used a term used by the neocons and mainline conservatives, cultural Marxism, and that is what it is.
That is going on.
So now if you talk about cultural Marxism, why, you must be a killer.
And the fact that they wouldn't let him speak himself, does that not up the suspicion level here?
Sure.
It's just getting stranger.
I also saw a report from a small town in France, near Toulouse, where his father lived.
And they were vague about connections.
They didn't talk or see each other for several years.
Maybe we should investigate this some more, because the Israel connection, because it seems, well, just bookish.
Yeah, let's talk about the Israel connection.
There was a Palestinian youth group.
The government of Norway was obviously calling for Palestine to be recognized.
They were about to pull their planes out of Libya.
Reportedly, there were all these Palestinian people at a rally at this island the day before.
He was trying to kill the former Prime Minister, who's a big Palestinian supporter.
That's now in the news today.
This is the anniversary of the King David Hotel bombing, that was admittedly a bombing carried out by Israel against the British in Palestine pre-Israel, and it first tried to be blamed on the Arabs, but then that didn't work.
So all of this going on, and it's funny, I didn't play the whole Michael Savage clip, but Michael Savage points out
In that clip and others that we just played, you can just search Michael Savage, Obama, Reichstag.
He talks about why does he say Rahm Emanuel will be involved in staged terror, Reichstag events, staged bombings or fires.
He says because he's the son of the head of Irgun who staged terror attacks and are leftist terrorists.
So, I mean, that's Michael Savage, who by the way is Jewish himself, saying this.
What's your view on the situation since you bring up Israel?
Well, I think Webster Topley may be correct when he says there's a connection with the Palestine issue, but in the aftermath of this happening, I guess people are just gathering around the Workers' Party and the AUF,
The youths were training for becoming participants in the Workers' Party, which is by far the biggest party.
And I guess they will only get more power and have more numbers to vote the way the globalists want them to as a result of this.
So I guess the Palestine issue is a side issue.
It may be a trigger, but not the whole shebang.
Now, in a way though, why would Israel, and we're certainly looking at that, we just went over the evidence.
Let me be clear, there's evidence pointing towards this being a false flag, provocateur event, and we've gone over that constellation of evidence.
I right now cannot single out specifically what group would stand to gain other than just big government itself by invoking a clash between Islam and Christianity, which this guy's manifesto is calling for.
That will undoubtedly trigger some real copycats.
to engage in their own attacks so the government won't have to even manufacture them in some cases.
This will also probably stimulate Muslims or it's an attempt to stimulate Muslims in Europe to strike back to invoke that clash of civilizations that the neocons and the Council on Foreign Relations talk about.
And then the social engineers, the globalists, can sit back and play the two groups off against each other while taking everyone's rights in the name of refereeing the clash of the crusade and the jihad that is going on.
So clearly that's the overall motive.
Restrict guns in Norway.
Restrict guns in other areas of Europe.
England, the United States, the calls are being made.
Track conservatives.
Rebrand mainline political nationalism as connected to terrorism.
But specifically with Israel staging an attack against Norway because they're pro-Palestinian.
uh... that would actually then when it comes out this guy was a big israel supporter and is and and and very uh... scared of muslims that in a way would actually discredit and demonize uh... the pro-israel people uh... so it's it's very sophisticated but tarpley says that doesn't matter and i tend to agree with him at an operation gladio level it's a message to governments i mean the prime minister and the former prime minister almost got killed at the island uh...
This is a major message to them.
Hey, you better do what we're telling you or you're dead.
But again, who would want to send that message?
Go ahead.
Yeah, listen, sir.
There's a lot of things, I think, from here domestically.
Talking against that point, for instance, Stoltenberg, the Prime Minister now, he
Yes, I guess he has some Jewish ancestors.
His name is Stoltenberg from, I guess, a predominant Jewish family from Poland a long time ago.
His sister, also Stoltenberg, works for
The People's Health, Folkehølseinstituttet, started by the Rockefeller Foundation, they... Oh, he knows, he's at Bilderberg, so you're saying the coalition parliament was about to be removed from power in the next election, polls showed, so you're saying it points towards, he is a Bilderberg group member, them staging this against themselves to discredit the rise of nationalists in Norway.
Yeah, I would guess.
I mean, he works so closely with the Bill and Melinda Gates Fund, you know, taking pictures with them, subsidizing vaccines in Africa.
I mean, it all seems so closely integrated.
So you disagree with Tarpley, then, that this was aimed as a threat towards the government?
Well, maybe the government in general, but not the Norwegian establishment.
I mean, also with Kulhallenbundlan, the former World Health Organization General Secretary.
I mean, she just left the island.
It all, you know, it seems too much of a setup.
Well, there's no doubt that they're attacking and demonizing nationalists, conservatives, folks that don't want wide-open borders, welfare states.
I mean, that's definitely going on.
They're definitely using it.
It's got all the signs of a staged event.
What do you make of his Facebook being altered, and the Masonic stuff being removed, and the gay stuff being removed, and being added Christian conservative, when even his friends are saying he wasn't really a Christian conservative?
What do you make of
The fact that there's not a bigger hubbub over the fact that his Facebook was altered to frame conservatives and Christians.
The first I heard of this was... I have so much respect for Mr. Paul Joseph Watson and his article.
The first time I saw it was in his article.
I thought I had just removed it.
But they're throwing labels there.
Just sending disinformation, just confusion about where he stands, where he comes from.
So, as you said, they're building a character, they're making this, you know, fictional demon.
It seems like, obviously, he's distorted, but there's something more, and they're making what that is.
Well, it's just like 9-11.
The fact that you had not one but two passports going out of their clothes, out of the fireballs, out of the building, down to the ground, and then found undamaged later in the day and given to the FBI.
I mean, if you'll buy that, folks, you'll buy that
One-eyed, one-horned, flying purple people-eaters are real.
Or that, you know, Keebler elves are real.
It is completely asinine.
And evidence of the frame-up is evidence that it's an inside job.
And the fact that his Facebook and a bunch of other stuff was doctored right after he was arrested, that the cops knew his name before the arrest and yelled it out at him.
You add all this together, my friend, this is very, very suspicious.
And the fact that they
You're Norwegian, correct me if I'm wrong, but you have incredible rights over there.
No, it's not entirely correct because there's a paragraph that if the investigation would be compromised then they can isolate them or bar the press or people from coming into the jail hearing.
They can also, I guess he's isolated for four weeks without letters and visits.
I don't know.
way of getting rid of unwanted elements, but in Norway we have, and the author I talked about yesterday has written extensively about this, we have a very efficient system to take them into mental hospitals and they disappear.
It won't be long, I think.
So you're saying it's more of the Soviet model and he'll probably now disappear off into a mental institution and that way we never find out who really did this.
Well, we're going to check back in with you in the days to come.
We're also going to open the phones up in the days to come for Norwegians.
In fact, I should do that today after we go through these calls, to be able to get on air with us and also give us their perspective.
and their view, but not letting him speak, keeping him sequestered, very, very suspicious and only adds to the quandary.
I want to thank you, Robert, for joining us and we'll talk to you again soon.
Thank you.
Now, look, I know we've got Tommy, Dean, Brenda, Tanner, Aaron, and others, and I want to take a bunch of calls today.
Also got Dr. Steve Pichanek coming up, and you know he'll want to roll with info, but I'm going to be jamming your calls in quickly as soon as he gets on with us.
I'm going to get his take on this and then take your calls and get his comments.
And then we got Dr. Tarpley joining us the last 30 minutes today.
Tarpley brings up one of the most important issues that I'd forgotten about over a year ago, and then more came out over the weekend.
That the CIA was infiltrating Norwegian police, and that NATO was doing it, and that now we learn recruiting retired police to, quote, counter the terror because the government wouldn't.
And then you're the counter-terrorism forces in Spain, in England, the Russians, the Nazis.
It's always the anti-terror forces that are the masters of staging false flags for political gain.
So, you've got a major attack on Norwegian sovereignty, and that is at the heart of this.
Switzerland and Norway both.
They've had now suspicious shootings at government buildings.
They had a lot of one of their state governments killed a few years ago in Switzerland, right as a vote was coming up to restrict guns.
But the Swiss voted it down.
The Swiss and the Norwegians are under globalist attack.
Now, I'm not saying the Norwegians are not New World Order central.
They are, but they're one of those zones that isn't completely under its control, though their leadership is pro-New World Order.
The globalists like to have their own select backwaters to operate out of.
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I want to briefly get into financial news before we get into it more after Dr. Pachinik leaves us.
Gold hits new high as debt talks stall.
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That means further global currency devaluations.
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Now, it's already started in Europe.
The feds changed the laws five years ago to do this.
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We've got Norwaykiller confirms Prime Minister was prime target.
Confesses in court but not publicly where you can see it.
Pleads not guilty, says he wanted to save Europe.
Claims two more cells are in our quote, organization.
That way they can run around and take everybody's rights.
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Death toll lowered to 76, thank God.
Manifesto suggests he wanted to spark a crusade, clash of civilizations.
Faces just 21 years in jail.
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That's just part of it.
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Not as long as they're devaluing, Ted.
Yeah, you're right about that.
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Okay, folks.
Dr. Webster Tarpley says this is a false flag.
Staged event with a mentally ill Patsy.
We've got him joining us the last 30 minutes today.
I know we've got callers holding.
We're going to get to you after Dr. Steve Pachinick has his say.
When I told my producer to set up Dr. Pachinick yesterday, I didn't know what his view would be on this.
And I just talked to him during the break and his view out of the gates differs from my preliminary view.
But I'm going to listen and I respect what he has to say.
Now, of course, if you go over Dr. Steve Pachinick's bio, he's probably been on the show 10, 12 times over the years.
He is the co-author of Tom Clancy's books.
He's the case that
He's the person that the Jack Ryan character is based on.
He's the advisor, technically, so the books are accurate.
And, of course, he worked in psychiatry at Harvard.
I mean, if you go over his whole bio, it's very lengthy.
He wrote the book on psychological warfare for the State Department used by the CIA.
And the question I've raised to him before that he's never really gotten into, and I bring it up, is the death of the Italian president, which the London Telegraph says, reportedly, was manipulated by Dr. Puccinini.
He manipulated the communists into killing him.
Perhaps today we'll get him to talk about that.
I mean, this is somebody whose bio would take
Hours to go over stevepachinick.com and he joins us and talking to the doctor in the break he said no this is the real deal this is bonafide terror he's creating a narrative to launch a whole movement but isn't and that's what I've been saying but from another perspective
The globalists want a clash of civilization, the neocons talked about that, playing Christendom off against Islam, while then the globalists basically play the part of the arbiter or the referee and have a police state crackdown on the entire general public in the name of creating safety.
This way no one can be trusted, not whites, not Arabs, not Muslims, not Christians.
Nobody can be trusted but Big Brother State and the telescreens of course now going in 9,000 locations, big TV screens saying spy on your neighbor.
I saw the preparation to this saying white Al Qaeda is about to hit.
Give up your rights when white Al Qaeda, the right wingers are about to hit.
The rise of the right on MSNBC saying Ron Paul and I want violence.
We don't want open borders.
We don't want globalism.
We don't want a banker takeover.
We're the terrorists.
So I've seen this narrative being prepared.
People's minds being prepared.
So I called the day before.
I said, White Al Qaeda is about to strike.
I said, it'll be right wing.
They'll say it's in Europe and the United States.
They'll claim it's militias that are against open borders and against the banker takeover.
Well, voila, this guy comes out and says it.
His Facebook has been changed from saying he's a Knights Templar Mason to that he's a Christian conservative.
This was done after he was captured.
The police knew his name when they raided the facility.
But, if you're gonna stage terror,
I don't know.
We've talked about it, but I really respect Dr. Pachinick's view.
You know, he said the Bin Laden thing is totally fake, the killing, and that the Situation Room video and photos were fake.
Came out days later, they were.
The throwing him in the ocean, totally fake.
The whole story, not true.
Now we've never seen the wives.
Turns out Pakistan doesn't have them.
So he's right there.
He says 9-11, inside job completely, how it was carried out, where it was planned, all of that information.
So I really respect him, but why is he saying this is real?
Dr. Pachinik, you've got the floor, but then I want to ask you, why then did I see this buildup?
Yeah.
Doc?
This is an event that I wrote about and was worried about 20 years ago in a novel that I wrote under the name of Alex Jones.
This is unlike any other event we've ever seen.
This is not just some right-wing screwballs.
First of all, this man is exceedingly sane.
Whatever else anybody is going to tell you, he is very sane.
He's extremely calculated.
He's very well-read.
This is not a crazy man who suddenly decided to do something.
He made it very clear what his motives were, and the reason he made it very clear
This is a pristine case of terrorism that I've been waiting for and I've seen before, but this is not a false flag.
This is not a stand-down.
This is not somewhere where suddenly any administration knew about an impending or wished for an impending right-wing movement.
And I'll tell you why.
Number one, his understanding of terror.
Was absolutely perfect.
He understood that terror is not the destruction of a building, it's not the destruction of any institution, but it is literally the creation of the emotion of terror.
And he did it brilliantly.
I don't think he did it alone.
I think he had help, not at the particular scene, but he did have help from other countries, and I will talk about it.
He blew up a building which created enough terror because he did it at the right time when everybody was gone, and he did it under the building where the Prime Minister was, which means he was targeting the fact that they were extremely vulnerable, that the Prime Minister and the Labour Party is vulnerable.
He could get them anytime he wanted.
Penny took one hour to an hour and a half and went to an island and killed 80 white Aryan children who were the successor to political throne.
Now, let me explain this.
This sounds Machiavellian, but it is.
In the words of terrorism, no one, no one has pulled this tight.
We're good to go.
Well, let me stop you, dawg, because... Let me stop you.
Listen to me.
The analog to this is not McVeigh.
It is not Al Qaeda.
You have to go back to 1922 and 1923.
He's literally following the steps of the very people he's accusing, and that is Hitler.
Hitler in 1922-23, when he was arrested, was arrested to make sure that he was not executed.
He did not want to be executed.
The Beer Hall Putsch!
Listen, and then he, what he did later on in the 1930s, he took all of the people around him who were Aryans and homosexuals and executed 300 of them in order to make a political deal.
This man has understood, studied terrorism, has understood the integration of
I think.
The problem of multiculturalism, but he didn't go out and kill any Muslims or multicultural elements.
He killed his own people to explain that he is able to take down any political system.
Then he very calmly sat down, explained his motivations so there would be no confusion as to the fact that he was nuts.
I wrote about this 20 years ago in a novel saying that.
The banality of evil.
It's not anything that's egregious.
It is the banality of evil.
It is the ability to affect this type of terror so that you can terrorize a system or country and eventually a world.
Now what makes him very lethal is that he will polarize and have around him
All the white, discontent men and women who are now looking to the right, in Europe in particular, and in Norway in particular.
Now, what makes it very unusual is you have to understand what Norway is.
Nobody's talked about Norway.
I've worked in Norway.
I know Norway.
Norway is a country that had a history of collaborating with the Nazis, with Quisling.
Remember the term Quisling, Alex?
Yes.
Explain to your audience.
He was the Prime Minister and Foreign Minister of Norway during World War II and affiliated himself with the Nazis.
So, within Norway, you had a system where you had an understrain of the notion of being a monolithic Aryan people who affiliated with the Nazis.
Now, in all due respect to the Norwegians, they also, in the fjords where I was,
They fought the Nazis subsequently and held down 400,000 troops.
So what I'm saying to you is this is not only an individual, this is a cultural confluence of Norwegian national character, where it's only 4.5 million, of the historical elements that they had in Norway.
Christianity.
Norway is not a great Christian country.
It's a Lutheran country, which is subjugated to the state, so his pronouncements of Christianity is really the deification of Catholicism, which is in France totally different.
His understanding of Christianity is mistaken.
Because the Knights of Templar did not come from any Aryan country.
They came from the areas that I grew up in France, in the south of France, in Toulouse.
And they were basically wayward individuals who had no work and were then empowered by the Pope to go forth into Jerusalem and eventually became exceedingly corrupt.
Now, having said that, my point is, this is a perfect execution of a terrorist act without destroying a building.
I mean, he created a destruction of a building, but he created terror throughout the system in order to mobilize a political party.
Now, can the CFR and other governments have the repression subsequent to that?
Yeah, but do they intend to do that?
No, and I'll tell you why.
No system, including our own system, is that smart or that clever or capable.
The stand down in the false flag that occurred in 9-11 was done in the Bush Jr.
administration with neocons and ones who understood
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That's why he's the advisor to some of the most best-selling authors out there, like Tom Clancy, and co-author of many of those books and major films.
But I look at this, and I see the neocons saying, we want to invoke a class of civilizations between Christendom and the Muslims.
And so the way this is launched, undoubtedly there are going to be real copycats that take up this entire military manual on how to do it, who to attack, what their views are, that it's meant to generate, kind of like Carter setting up Al-Qaeda in 79.
Sure, the command system's run by the West, but it's an idea that then gets picked up and actually organically carried out.
That's how you have staged Al-Qaeda, synthetic Al-Qaeda versus real Al-Qaeda.
And so I see this launching the clash of civilizations, but then the governments that have been hyping that this is coming, they can then come in and say, now we've got to take everybody's rights, no one can be trusted, because see, the right-wingers that don't like the banker bailouts, that don't like open borders, who don't like cultural Marxism, they're bad guys.
I mean, I see this really helping the corrupt ruling establishment.
Dr. Pucinich, I'm not saying I disagree with you,
And I do see the point that stage terror always hits a target that hurts civilians.
It's never really striking the ruling class.
I mean, real terrorists would go after David Rockefeller.
They'd go after Lord Rothschild.
They'd go after the Queen of England.
They would go after
People, literally.
Alex, there are times when we don't agree, but we do agree.
Let's just, I want to do a little footnote.
In June, you and I talked about the British collusion with the media, and the press, and the King, and I told you they were corrupt, the intelligence community was corrupt, the press was corrupt.
Six weeks later, the whole Murdoch issue comes out, and you and I were right.
Alright?
And the BBC who were sitting there, you forgot to mention that, so we were right.
No, but you said all their major media is government intelligence.
And the police department was involved, Scotland Yard was involved, so you and I are correct.
We're often very aligned in what we say, and there are really collusions and there are corruptions.
This is not the same case, my friend.
And the reason I argue that is this man did target the prime individual he wanted, and that was the Prime Minister, but more sinisterly, and this is where you have to understand,
And I'll go into the neocon.
There's no neocon who's smart enough calculating it up.
Most of them are chicken hawks.
They're cowards.
Were they Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, Hadley?
All of them were just sick defense and panderers.
This is not a sick defense here.
You're talking about a man who deifies being alone.
Yeah, the power of one.
I don't want to get too cultural on you, but many people in the audience have to understand this.
Norwegian are great people.
They produced a man by the name of Henry Gibson, a famous playwright.
Well, we still do the doll show, but more importantly, he wrote The Master Builder, which is exactly what this individual is saying when he quotes Jonathan Milton, and he says, the individual is more powerful than the society.
This made the same effect with no needle con, no government, no other institution has been able to argue or suppress that the individual is without need, and the individual belief can create more disaster
I think?
No, I can.
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My issue is that
Governments have been caught staging terror attacks over and over and over again.
Private corporations do it.
Hitler did it with the Reichstag in Gleiwitz to start World War II at Gleiwitz.
He used Reichstag to seize more power in February of 1933.
We've seen army manuals on how to stage false flags.
We've seen countless examples of this.
So that's why, out of the gates, I always look at things and ask who benefits.
And I saw this huge build-up that, okay, we're not going to brand terrorism as Muslim anymore.
We're going to move it over to conservatives who don't want a new world order.
Now, this guy reportedly attacks, reportedly confesses today, but we're not allowed to see that on camera.
His Facebook gets altered.
The police knew who he was when they got there to the island.
But then on the other side, he picks an island for the idea of psychological isolation and the fear of being shot while you're swimming on vacation and the children of the socialist elite and the multiculturalist, you know, sellouts, as he calls them, being killed.
If he would have targeted the Muslims, it would have made them the victims.
Instead, he went after the true ruling class that he saw as perpetrating it.
I see the precision.
I see the clear-eyed way he did this.
I understand that the people in Scandinavia are normally the folks that, you know, climb Mount Everest and are into all of this, you know, extreme long-distance
Sports.
I understand the psychology.
And he wanted to sell the idea that the individual lone wolf can bring you down anytime we want.
That's why 90% of warfare is psychological.
The system creates the idea you're powerless.
They build giant capital buildings to make you feel like you're little.
Because it's the opposite.
And I agree.
His message of, you are the individual, you are unstoppable, is the polar opposite of what neocons and liberals and collectivists push.
The only way they would trigger this is to create, and they did this with Al-Qaeda, the idea of the individual, the Army of One, that the US military talks about, to sell the idea of a clash in Europe with the Muslims.
And some would say that points towards Israel.
So, Dr. Pachinik, you've got the floor, and then I want to go to calls.
We'll keep you some of the next hour to get more into the info, but I promise to go to calls during this hour.
But I understand where you're going with all of this, and I know you've read over his material.
Show of eyes.
So, so break down exactly where you're going with this.
And then the $64 million question.
Clearly, he's saying he didn't work alone.
Other cells are about to strike.
I don't think they're going to demonize Alex Jones and Ron Paul or even me or anybody else.
What this is about is not even relevant about you and me.
The state at this point is totally impotent.
It has nothing to do with this act of terror.
This act of terror is bred, as I said to you and you said, out of their own influence of culture and a man who has been systematically working out on the philosophy, methodology, not alone, but as it was said in 2002, he met with a group of others in England.
I suspect that British intelligence knows a lot about this and will assist
I don't know.
A situation where he could create agitation, kill his own people, eventually the long knife, and this is a virtual push.
He says very clearly, this gentleman, this man here, he says, Berwick says, there's a situation in which cruelty is necessary and refusing to apply necessary cruelty is a betrayal of the people whom you wish to protect.
No government will go out and allow an individual to kill 80 children.
That is counterproductive to terrorism and allying sympathy in order to have a group, other than the fact that you have an individual who's saying, look, I'm above all the laws, above all government systems, and above all ideology, and he spells it out.
There's no unicorn, there's no individual in our government who can sophisticatedly put this all together.
You overestimate, and many of the people who listen to you, overestimate the effectiveness of a government, any government, to effectuate any counter-terrorist movement, or even a terrorist movement.
The full flag and stand down in 9-11 was done in preparation over a period of time.
By two guys who were very clear about it.
That was Bush Jr., Rumsfeld, and the neocons.
I knew about that a long while before, and I was against it.
This is very different.
This has been in preparation for a long while, and my suspicion goes to Sweden.
Because in Sweden, where I wrote about this book 20 years ago in Active Measures under the name Alexander Kort, I pinpointed the rise of the neo-Nazis and the Aryan supremacy.
Which, by the way, the Swedes are not Aryan.
And the use against the Christian religion, which they're not Christian by the way, it's Lutheranism, subsumed underneath the nation state to attack Muslims so they could stop the immigration of Muslims going through.
This was not an attempt to polarize the system into allowing the state to suppress the individuals.
That's the act of terrorism.
This is not what he's saying.
He doesn't want the state to suppress the individual.
He wants to say that he
We're good to go.
He can be more effective than a hundred thousand people, and he's absolutely right.
He proved it.
I think it's a big mistake to compare this to Al Qaeda, or McVeigh, or anything else.
This is what we say in the business, sui generis.
I've been waiting for this type of pristine terrorism, and it sounds cynical, to work with it and say, how do we stop it?
Because his attempt is to basically create an army, a virtual army, of individual terrorists under the rubric
I think?
This is a very different message.
This is what I call the 21st century neo-Nazi movement, but it really mirrors much more Hitler's rise to power.
Let me ask you, you say you've gone over his material.
Are you seeing neo-Nazi stuff?
Because there's a lot of Islamophobia and he quotes a lot of neo-con-Jewish writers.
Are you saying he's a neo-Nazi?
Well, I'm saying for one of any term, for me, he's a 21st century virtual terrorist.
He knows exactly how to use the icons, the music, and he knows how to put it all together.
He knows how to quote Franz Kafka.
I mean, he says he's inspired by Franz Kafka, the trial.
Franz Kafka was a Jew.
He doesn't care all that much about religion as much as he cares to mobilize all the elements of a mixed ideology, including communism, which he's against, although he doesn't realize that he's acting very much like Stalin and Trotsky.
He's a Trotskyite.
Like many of the neocons, he's a Trotskyite, which means, in effect, he didn't understand the full understanding of what he was writing about.
A Trotskyite believes in revolution, irrespective of what your religion is
Yeah, I know, that's their big, well, they believe in blood.
Now, blood flowing is their little secret chant.
Now, let's go back here, though, because I got an email about this and I looked it up.
I hadn't heard you on Coast to Coast, but you just mentioned it and I went and found the quote, but you said you knew about the 9-11 plan, or you just alluded to that, before it happened.
So let's digress into that.
You're saying you know who was specifically involved planning
9-11 and the report was... I don't want to get into that now.
You and I have talked about that before.
You said 1991.
Not on this show.
I don't want to get into that.
I've been on your show.
I've predicted correctly.
If you know who Elliot Abrams is, and he's at the Council on Foreign Relations, and he's been involved in all kinds of chicanery for 20 years under different administrations,
Why do criminals, as a psychiatrist... I said it 10-11 years ago.
I fought my battle.
I worked with those in the system who I won't identify to get rid of Rumsfeld, to get rid of the neocons.
And then what happens?
Your governor, Terry, goes.
And who does he go to talk to?
Doug Fyfe.
The worst of the neocons.
The stupidest of the neocons.
And Don Rumsfeld.
So you tell me about stupidity, my friend.
How does it perpetuate itself in the Republican Party when you have a Mitt Romney who claims he's American yet his father was born in Mexico and he doesn't want to tell the truth.
So why don't we talk about the disinformation of the people who are continuously there and stop talking about this national conspiracy.
What we have is sociopathy in this country.
We have two Mormons running, both of whom are incompetent, both of whom are lying to the public, and the Republicans are saying to you, you know, we're going to put an idiot like Michelle Bachmann, who talks about abortion and stupidity, and was a prosecutor for the IRS, and telling you about Tea Party notions.
Doc, I want to shift... What I'm saying to you is the government of the system isn't working, my friend.
It's not that effective.
What we have here is a very effective, pristine act of terror that has far greater significance than any government.
It means that there's virtual terrorism.
That's why I wrote this series of books called Cyber Terrorism.
Cyber indignation and active measures.
Those of us who understood it, I could predict it, but I had to use fiction.
But we have to talk about a system that's dysfunctional, my friend, and your audience has to understand that.
They're presented with a president who can't make a decision, we've talked about that, who's ineffectual, who holds the whole country hostage to a debt limit where we could lose our credit rating.
Now if that's not terrorism, you tell me what is.
No, I hear you.
You're absolutely right.
Well, Doc, listen.
Who in fact represents this country?
The United States of America, and our soldiers, and the ones who come back, and our jobs that we need.
Nobody's addressing it.
You got one more on Michelle Bachmann, you got this guy calling who's a pizza king, and you got two Mormons who are disasters.
Huntsman was my ambassador to Singapore.
He can't run his own campaign.
He put in two million dollars and he doesn't even know how to run a simple campaign.
I've promised to go to phone calls, but I want to put bookends on the terrorists right now, if I can ask you, and then later we'll get into politics here in just a minute.
No, but it's relevant to this because we have a dysfunctional system, and you're telling me that this system can create an entire suppression of the U.S.
people?
It's not possible, my friend.
Well, we'll get into your research into the political rot and the level it's reached, and I agree to you to a certain extent, you just have the bureaucracy and others, and when they do carry out staged events like the Bin Laden killing, it is shoddy, it is very obvious, versus what's happened with this killer, this reported killer over in Norway.
But finishing up with that, when he talks about other cells, at least two other cells, and more attacks,
And you talk about the fact that he didn't write all this and he didn't put all this together.
Who do you think is behind this?
Well, I think the Swedes are very much involved with this.
There's no question in my mind that part of this organization has Swedish inputs because the Swedes were very much involved in the 1990s when I wrote that book 20 years ago in terms of creating the rise of Neo-Nazi and the so-called quote Aryan supremacy when in fact
Sweden has a very dangerous history, and that's what I want to get into so people understand.
This is not against all Swedes.
The Swedes proclaim neutrality.
In the meantime, the famous Wallenberg family, who was supposedly saving Jews, that was a false flag issue because they were ordered by the OSS, a guy named Niels Bohr, the famous physicist, that one of their sons had to either rectify the name
And instead you had Nazi elements in Sweden.
That has never changed.
First of all, the Swedish King during World War II was a Nazi, was a German, pro-German.
You had Mark Wallenberg, who was developing armaments.
Then you had Jacob Wallenberg, who supported the Nazi Party.
Sweden allowed 440,000 Nazis to go into Norway.
And broke the neutrality and allowed the Norwegians to fight them.
So on one hand of Norway you had Quisling, on the other hand in the fjords you had all the men and women of Norway fighting the Germans and holding down 440,000 people.
So the roots of Nazism comes through Sweden.
Not Norway, even though you had a quiz link.
And you look at Sweden underneath that false flag, underneath the deception and propaganda of neutrality, you will find the roots of the rise of the Neo-Nazi in the 21st century.
And that's what I would look at.
Well, it is something that we need to continue to research.
I just see a Freemason,
Uh, in, uh, the, uh, Scotland shooting being used to ban guns in the UK.
I see the Freemason, uh, with the Tasmanian situation in Australia being used.
And now this guy was meeting at some type of Knights Templar meeting in England.
Uh, the whole thing reeks, reeks of British intelligence, but you're saying it doesn't.
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He's on cell phone so he doesn't hear the music when we're going out to break and kept talking.
I wanted to be able to finish his statement when I talked about the British intelligence connection and then I asked Dr. Pchenik, former top counter-terrorism specialist, wrote the book with the State Department on it, carried out many of his own operations himself.
Will this guy be successful?
And what group does he think is behind him?
And then I promise we're going to your phone calls for those that have been patiently holding.
I'm going to get to you.
Dr. Pachinik, go ahead and repeat what you were saying.
Well, I said that he had a meeting in 2002 in London with the Knights Templar, where the group was founded.
I have no doubt in my mind that British intelligence, MI5, had monitored.
If, in fact, there is any affiliation to MI5 or MI6, this will be very, very serious for England, especially after you and I predicted correctly that Murdoch was involved with Scott
I think so.
Throughout his thinking and preparation by the Swedes and other members around Eastern and Northern Europe, possibly Germans and others, who know propaganda and theory.
There's a very clear understanding in his presentation, as I called it, a cyber-terrorism presentation, because he's using the Internet to brilliantly present propaganda through icons, music,
I don't know.
Many people who are disaffected in Europe and around the world with unemployment, with lack of jobs, and with immigration.
And this is where we have to be very careful because our own intelligence system better be on top of this.
They have to get a group that thinks out of the box, not in the box, and they better start understanding what this is about.
This is a form of terrorism that's on steroids.
I have waited for this for 20 years.
This is unlike anything we've seen before.
He will stay alive, and quite frankly, in the world of terrorism, by definition, he is already successful.
He has created the terror that he needed.
Whether we approve of it or not is not relevant, but he will continue to be successful, because he has been able to promulgate his theory, explain it, and appear as normal.
He is not abnormal, and he is
It's not crazy.
It is a big mistake to categorize this individual as anything other than a very calculating cold killer.
And you can say whatever you want, neo-Nazi, Christian, I don't believe he's any one of those other than a power grabber and a virtual putsch, which means he's going to be the virtual leader of a 21st century cyber group.
Well, he had to know.
He had to know that he's only going to serve a maximum of 21 years under Norwegian law.
That's 81 days per person killed.
But thank God now they've lowered the number of dead to 76.
That is certainly some good news that that number has been been lowered.
Now, I promised to go to calls under Puccinnik and I'm sure they'll be all over the map, but you can spar with them back and forth.
You know, quite frankly, I don't know if I hope you're right or I hope you're wrong because it's frightening to think that government intelligence agencies would do something like this to go after the general public, you know, to rebrand the war on terror to everybody.
That's frightening.
But to think that there is somebody who pulled a Hitler, where he marched on, you know, from the beer hall to the government building to take over, and a bunch of people got shot in that street battle, and then Hitler was put in jail for a couple years and wrote Mein Kampf.
My struggle.
That was certainly all scripted.
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We're into hour number three.
We're going to get a different perspective from Webster Griffin Tarpley.
Coming up in about 30 minutes, Dr. Steve Pchenik is our guest for the next 20.
I promise to go to your calls and I want to hear from you and I appreciate you holding.
Before Dr. Pchenik leaves us, we'll also get into his view on the rotten state of the political ruling class.
In this country, his websites, of course, StevePachinik.com, our sites are Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.tv.
If you don't know who Dr. Steve Pachinik is, he's a best-selling author in his own right many times and also co-authored many books with Tom Clancy.
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And he of course, I need to get him on sometime just about his years at the State Department and doing intelligence and assassinations and things like that because it's very informative and interesting not just giving his view on what's happening currently.
Right now, Tommy, Dean, Brenda, Tanner, Aaron, we'll at least get to you five.
On whatever subject you want to raise, because I know Dr. Petunia can cover it, but I would imagine it's about the shooting.
Tommy, from Norway.
I didn't realize you were from Norway.
I've been holding for over an hour.
Sorry, Tommy.
I wasn't looking at where you called from.
I would have gone to you earlier.
Tommy, thanks for holding.
Oh, well, that's fine, Alex.
It's my first time calling in ever.
I've been listening to your radio show for some time now, and well, I'm kind of nervous, but I have a couple of questions, actually.
I started just off with one.
DLD in Norway, the Data Storage Directory, directly translated, is a law which is
Which the Labour Party actually last minute switched on and actually got forced through, I think, where they are going to store all the data on every individual citizen that they do online for six months prior to deleting it, and that's going to be the law here in Norway.
Oh yeah, they're going to go after your guns, everything, and you see the build-up that white al-Qaeda is going to get you.
You know, I don't want to disagree with Dr. Pucinich, and I understand his view on this,
Uh, he doesn't think British intelligence is competent enough, but, uh, you know, Western intelligence created al-Qaeda and a narrative that got Muslims to pick up on it, even though they weren't part of the controlled arm.
I mean, I mean, is it not unwise, Dr. Pachinik, to underestimate, uh, the, the intelligence agencies?
I mean, I know you worked in, uh,
Yeah, but you know, when we talk about the intelligence agencies, with all the
We have great respect for Norway and I've enjoyed my visits there.
You would assume, I want the public to understand, the intelligence agencies are really multiple and very diversified.
In the United States, we have over 16 different intelligence agencies.
And there's factions within each one?
I'm sorry?
And there's factions within each?
And there are factions within them.
You're not talking about one individual that has this incredible super brain that thinks out of everything.
There are intelligence agencies that deal with espionage, intelligence agencies that deal with satellites.
I mean, I don't have to go into specificity.
Then you have the National Intelligence Estimate.
All of these, particularly in our country, have diversified opinions.
And believe me, the last thing in the world you want to do is to sit there and claim that there's this monolithic entity that has a monolithic idea about what it is we should or should not do.
It all gets filtered, usually, in a briefing to the President of the United States.
All right, stay there, Doc!
Got a break.
Tommy, do you want to add anything else when we come back from Norway?
Yeah, actually... Stay there, stay there.
We're going to come back to Tommy from Norway, Dr. Steve Pchenik.
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Alright, we're into our number three, Dr. Webster Tarfley, joining us to give us his perspective on the kickoff of the new branding of terror.
And regardless of whether it's real or staged, they're certainly going to use it to take our basic liberties and freedoms.
They're calling for massive gun control after a guy went in and shot and killed five people in the DFW area of North Texas yesterday.
And the issue is, no matter how much gun control you bring in, just like Mexico, total gunman there for the citizens, people are still going to get guns, and that only makes disarmed people victims.
But Dr. Steve Pchenik is our guest.
Tommy in Norway had more comments, and we'll get Dr. Pchenik's take on it.
Tommy, calling from Norway, what was your other point?
My other point was that most of the youth parties in Norway was against DLD, and the one that was leading that resistance was actually the Labour Youth Party, which then was the people that were mostly on this island that was shot.
Dr. Pachinik, your statement on that?
Most of the... Tom, would you repeat that again?
What was that?
Yeah, uh, most of the youth parties in Norway was against the DLD, the Data Storage Directive, to monitor all the traffic of every citizen.
And the youth party that was actually leading this was the Labour Party Youth Party, as I understand it, going against the Grown-Up Party, in a sense.
Well, I think it's an excellent point, but I think what I see in this man's ideology is way beyond the particular ideology of restriction of data.
It really leads into the notion of why he should be the leader of really what would be a new type of people who would be forward.
Expressing what I said to you before, you know, the notion of the individual being superior to any ideology or state.
It echoes in the Ibsen play The Master Builder and Knut Hamsun.
If you see it in many of the cultural elements in your own history, you see that notion not of the superiority of the individual, but the superiority of the strength of the individual and the willpower of that individual.
I don't think he was as much concerned about what that ideology stood for as much as it was an ideology that he could counteract and impose his own will on it.
That's why he liked Kant and why he reinforced... He's very clear about his philosophers, many of whom reify and deify the New Testament.
We're good to go.
And, you know, contrary to what the Brits have said, they were there and they had a discussion with them.
So, I don't know what influence Britain had on it, but with all my respect, Tommy, I think this has more to do with the confluence of the history and cultural elements of Norway as it's personified in an individual rather than a specific ideology.
Whether he was left-wing or non-left-wing, he just wanted to reimpose the notion of multiculturalism didn't work.
The white man is suppressed and displaced, and basically the white man has to reaffirm his position in the world by force and be politically correct.
Alright, well expanding, I don't know if we're holding on for just a moment, expanding.
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We're going to see what comes out of this, but at the end of the day, this violence is only going to be used to take more of the general public's liberties.
Tommy, thank you for the call.
From Norway, please call again.
Dean in New York, you're on the air.
Any questions or comments?
Yeah, hi Alex.
Thanks for taking the call.
Seems that the investigative journalist side of you is really trying to, you know, fit this single data point into the overall trend of demonizing the white terrorist.
But, um, again, to Mr. Buchanek's point, which is that this person, if I took time, I read his manifesto, not all of it of course, but I did spend a lot of time reading it, and he is calculated, methodical, he knew exactly what he was doing.
Whether he received any type of...
Whether he received any support from outside is almost irregardless.
Well, he says he had the support.
And my issue is, look at this giant police state we've built that doesn't keep us safe from terrorists.
The answer is more guns to protect ourselves.
Keep your hands off my liberties.
Dr. Perchenik, comments on what to call her?
Alex, Alex, Dean is correct.
This gentleman hit it right on the head.
He is so calculating.
He is so purposeful.
It's so knowledgeable, isn't that correct?
I mean, this man has been able to assimilate what I study in propaganda theory.
Every issue on propaganda, unlike any other person, without getting sloppy about it.
And furthermore, he is very clear as to his intention, his cold-bloodedness, and the fact that force will be supreme.
It's an old revolutionary concept, but I agree with your listener.
He's right on the mark.
Absolutely.
Do you agree that this man is insane or crazy?
Insane or crazy.
He spent nine years and approximately 310,000 euros in a calculated effort to pull this off.
He knew exactly what he's doing.
He even says in his manifesto that
Cruelty is important.
It's an element of the attack of the individual to show the cultural Marxist, more or less, of who he's fighting against.
He's attacking his own people in order to wake them up, okay?
And again, it's a logical fallacy.
Dean, it sounds like you support him or you like it.
No, I do not support masculinity, it's just horrid.
It's like Pachanik said, he's the most dangerous type of terrorist.
He operates on his own, he's cold calculated, and if he was enabled to create a virtual terrorist network, that would make this phony
Uh, Unabomber, you know all these phony guys like the FBI.
They take these idiots, right, and they put bombs in their pants and they put them on planes.
Yeah, no, drop down idiots that can't even tie their shoelaces.
No, I hear you, Dean.
Thank you so much.
I think so.
We're good.
Yeah, well, people better keep their hands off my guns and my liberty and my freedom and, you know, the bottom line, they're coming after folks that are against the New World Order right now, using this guy, and it stinks to high heaven.
And again, I saw the crescendo building up to imminent Whitey attacks on Thursday.
And I'm telling you, I see scripting written all over this.
Now, they may have known about him, let him do it, protected him.
The other cells may be, you know, double agents.
We don't know.
But this has got a lot of earmarks that make me very suspicious.
But it's good to have a debate and look into it.
And I do see the points that Dr. Pachinik is making.
Brenda in Illinois, you're on the air.
Go ahead.
Hello?
Hi, go ahead.
Hi, how are you Alex?
I wanted to ask Dr. Pechenik just what you were bringing up just now, your point about gun grabbing.
I live in gun grabbing Illinois where you can't believe how hard it is.
But anyway, I was wondering if he had seen the latest propaganda piece from DHS on Thursday which you were going over.
Um, if he, you know, sees any of the ties to this coming back to the states anymore, maybe not necessarily what this means.
Yeah, the DHS rolling out white Al Qaeda videos and showing the minorities reporting on the white devils.
This was released about a week before these new events and I've gotten the internal training manuals.
Where they're telling every police department, the veterans will IED you, the veterans are the terrorists, we've got to prepare mass arrest of the evil pro-America people.
I mean, that's my point.
This is going on behind the scenes.
You say government's incompetent.
They've either competently predicted the real threat, or they're staging it.
Which is it?
Well, I don't get it.
I think Brenda's hit something that's very important.
This man will resonate with a lot of disaffected veterans who will come back.
There is a real issue now that, unfortunately, the veterans are not being treated at the VA.
They have no jobs.
They've been displaced from their homes.
We've talked about this repeatedly.
Our government is not addressing this issue.
Instead of worrying about their being targeted as terrorists, the real issue is going to be, we have veterans with PTSD,
Organic brain damage and we're doing nothing about it.
The VA and unfortunately General Shinseki has not been competent.
I'm unfortunate because I was an admirer of his, but he is not good at running the VA.
I have heard too much from other doctors that their veterans are being shortchanged, particularly on these issues.
Okay, but what do you make of them?
There's repercussions here, but not a systematic repercussion, but it will resonate with groups of white people and others that feel disaffected, that feel unappreciated, and have no jobs.
And the reality is, by the way, there are no jobs, and we are disaffected, and the system isn't working.
So there is a basis of reality for which he taps in, he, this terrorist, taps into the reality of what's happening in Europe and the
Yeah, you're saying you've got to tell the truth and connect that to your terrorism if you're going to do it.
Alright, Brenda, we'll try to cram in a few more for Dr. Pachinik.
We'll have him back soon on politics.
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Doing things my own way is very tempting.
And that's a quote out of a CNN article of the president talking about just doing whatever he wants and that's the great danger once society starts unraveling because of corruption is to then just give more and more power to the very corrupt institutions and you know to sum it up
The controllers are accelerating our path, our collision course, with collapse.
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Let's jam in a few final calls here for Dr. Steve Pchenik, who I am going to get back up the next week or so specifically on his views on what I just mentioned.
The Democrats, the Republicans, at the leadership level, they're all a bunch of corrupt scum, and we are in deep trouble.
Tanner in Texas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.
Hey, how's it going?
I wanted to go over something that I personally refer to as cyberterrorism or what I believe to be cyberterrorism.
Is that okay?
Yeah, go ahead, sir.
You're on air.
Okay, well, there was a report that came on Bloomberg in December on the $3.3 trillion in backdoor bailouts.
Are you familiar with that?
Yeah, now it's up to $16 trillion.
Okay, yeah.
Well, that was set private by somebody.
And I'm not saying I know who it was, but I took a video of it.
It's up on my YouTube channel, Let's Talk Politics with an X. There's no... Now, hold on.
Set private by who?
On Bloomberg?
Yeah.
Very interesting.
Very interesting.
Yes, it was.
I didn't upload a version that was legible until the 16th.
Oh, this... Okay, Tanner.
Tanner, is there a specific point here?
Yes, go ahead.
Yes there is.
Okay?
On the 16th.
On the 17th, the view counts were really low.
So I went in and I started spamming the second most viewed video.
I said, I said, the reason the view counts are so low is because this video don't want to go viral.
They don't want you to see that they're censoring backdoor bailouts because that's pretty bad, you know?
Okay, within an hour and 15 minutes, it went from 60,000 views to 125,000 views.
So fast.
That they didn't even catch up the first most viewed, and I proved that it was because of what I did, because somebody left a comment on my video.
I gotta let you go at that point.
There's all sorts of stuff going on with YouTube, and it's well known that there have been a lot of backdoor bailouts now.
$16 trillion to foreign banks and domestic companies like MSNBC, and it's a very serious problem, again, of corruption that Dr. Pchenik brings up.
And, you know, the fact that they don't care now that you know that the federal government's funding a lot of national media, and that no one gets in trouble for it, or nobody gets in trouble for all the other corruption, it just shows how systemic all this is.
Dr. Pachinik?
No, it's absolutely true.
I mean, the issue that you and I brought out in June about the corruption, that we predict the corruption of the British government with Murdoch, and Murdoch has been absolutely abysmal.
I've tracked him since I was a Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under Bush Sr.
in 1991, and I already had questions about his involvement and his corruption.
I don't
I think we're so dysfunctional.
The President is dysfunctional.
The whole system is dysfunctional.
We need a third option.
And that's where you, Alex, comes in, where we have to discuss that third option, and you're formidable.
The audience understands what the problem is.
It doesn't have to get into social conservatism.
It has to get into a party which has to deal with pragmatism.
And how do we get the United States to maintain its republic while in the meantime we're in imperial power all over the world and our military is displayed all over the world.
But we have no jobs, we have no strategy, no tactics, and no leadership on both sides.
You have men who are basically panderers, you have people who are sociopaths, you have
Alright.
Dr. Pachinik, thank you so much for spending time with us.
We'll talk to you again very soon.
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Okay, Breivik's manifesto has been gone over, and I've scanned over it as well.
It has the word Jews 324 times in it, in a positive light.
So, some folks are saying neo-Nazi.
I don't really agree with that perspective, because it's not there.
In fact, here's the Jerusalem Post.
Let me just read this to you.
Norway attack suspect had anti-Muslim pro-Israel views in the 1,500 page manifesto credited to Breivik, accused of killing Spree, lays out a worldview including extreme screed of Islamophobia and far-right Zionism.
Anders Breivik, the Norwegian who killed nearly 100 people in a combined terror attack Friday that included car bombings in Oslo and a shooting rampage at an island summer camp, held fiercely anti-Islamic and pro-Israel views, according to a 1,500 page manifesto he uploaded before his killing spree Friday.
Continuing in the 1,500-page tome, which mentions Israel 359 times and Jews 324 times, Breivik lays out his worldview, which includes an extremely bizarre and rambling screed of Islamophobic far-right Zionism
Well, yeah, when you hear the term cultural Marxism, I mean, that's right out of the neocons.
And venomous attacks on Marxism and multiculturalism.
In one passage, he lashes out at Western media, which he accuses of unfairly focusing on the wrongdoing of Jews.
Western journalists again and again systematically ignore serious Muslim attacks and rather focus on the Jews, he wrote.
Breivik also took a jab at left-wing Jews.
Jews that support multiculturalism today are much of a threat to Israel and Zionism as they are to us, he continued.
So let us fight together with Israel, with our Zionist brothers, against all anti-Zionist, against all cultural Marxist and multiculturalist.
You know, I remember
Covering Friday and then Sunday, Jaron pointed it out, that this was the anniversary, or no, it was Aaron, that it was, it doesn't matter, the point is, that it was the anniversary of the bombing of the King David Hotel by Zionist, left-wing Zionist, I think it was Rahm Emanuel's dad, wasn't it?
Yeah, of the King David Hotel.
That's why Savage, who's Jewish, came out and said, Michael Savage, and said, look,
Let me tell you, this guy's the son of Eargun.
Look for him to stage attacks and blame it on the right wing.
And now you've got this guy claiming he's working with friends.
And this is very sophisticatedly done.
Israelis put out sophisticated stuff, folks.
You know, Pachinik's telling us how unbelievably inept intelligence agencies are, and I respect him on the bin Laden thing being fake and 9-11, and I've really found, you know, historically, he knows what he's talking about.
He's a smart guy.
I've done a lot of research as well, and I'm not trying to get in a fight with Pachinik.
It's just that, and we've got Tarpley in the wings, right?
Good.
And we may have to go into overdrive today.
Obviously, we're going to go into overdrive.
The problem is I'm never going to get this TV show launched.
But hey, I'm pulling the trigger September 1st or thereabouts.
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I love being with my family.
It's the best part of my day, best part of my life, but I cannot complete this mission if I continue to go home at six, seven o'clock at night.
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I mean, maybe you should carry out the fight.
Every minute here is torture.
I am sick of it.
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But if we don't do this, we have no future.
Alright, I'm going to Webster Tarpley here in just a moment, and obviously we'll have to go into overdrive at least 30 minutes so we can take calls.
And again, stations won't carry that.
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And I got a headache doing that interview with Pachinic, because I like him.
I don't think he's a bad guy.
I think he's a smart guy.
I know he's a smart guy, but I'm sorry.
I just, I mean, I saw the preconditioning up to this.
And this is the introduction of Al-Qaeda, the introduction of white Al-Qaeda, the white terrorist.
I called it, and I believe it's a staged event.
Now this may be a patsy who believes he's this knight.
I saw his video, it was kind of childlike, and that this guy's in fantasy land, and a high-level functioning delusional psychopath with delusions of grandeur.
And hey, he could become the next Hitler.
Maybe Pchenik's right.
I mean, I see the Beer Hall Putsch and all that.
I get it.
But, I don't know.
We're going to be talking to Tarpley, a doctor of history and another person I think is very well informed.
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Okay, if you just joined us, the Jerusalem Post says he was a rabid right-wing Zionist.
And he used the terms that right-wing neocons and Zionists use on radio in the US.
It's just a fact.
I don't know if he wrote this manifesto.
The Easter Bunny could have done it.
It's admitted that his Facebook was manipulated.
It was in the Google Wayback Machine saved.
And we were able to track that.
Other big news reports are confirming that someone went in and changed it from Knights Templar Illuminati member Mason to Christian Conservative.
This is a rebranding, clearly, regardless of whether it's real or not.
From the Muslim threat, we're taking your rights away because of it, to everybody's a terrorist.
And I told you this was coming last week.
We had drills the days before, blowing up things less than a kilometer away.
We have the police showing up, knowing the government's name, and saying, hands up.
They show up 90 minutes later, and then they don't take him out.
They just say, hey, lay your gun down, bravery.
And Anders Breivik, and he comes out and does that.
He's going to serve 21 years maximum.
And he's going to be this big Hitlerian hero when he gets out, I guess.
I compare it to that because Hitler did the same thing with his Beer Hall attack on the Parliament and then he got put in jail for a year and a half and wrote Mein Kampf.
That was all staged.
So this is definitely nasty.
They want to have a new class of civilizations and
This has got that written all over it.
And the fact that he's fawning around with the kill all the Muslims, oh I love Israel stuff.
Or that could be a complex frame up of that.
I mean again, you can't believe the Facebook, you can't believe the web stuff.
We don't know any of this.
And they wouldn't let him be seen in court.
They wouldn't let him be seen in court.
They wouldn't let him speak in front of the camera.
So we don't know if he's even saying these things he said.
Uh, to me, he looks highly intelligent, but he also, with that little smirk, looks like he's flown over the cuckoo's nest.
Uh, obsessive-compulsive, basically.
Webster Tarpley, Doctor of History, frequent guest here and contributor, tarpley.net.
My friend, what do you think's really going on here?
We just had Dr. Steve Pchenik on, his illustrious career in Black Ops himself, you know, the Jack Ryan character in the Tom Clancy Patriot Games novels, co-author with him.
He's saying this is the pristine real terrorism, the equivalent of the gilded unicorn, never known before, he admits, most terrorist states sponsored.
He says this is not synthetic.
What says Webster Griffin Tarpley?
Well, I have to say in regard to your previous guest, when Mauro was being held by the Red Brigades, I was part of the effort to try to find Mauro and to save his life, and I guess your previous guest was on the other side of that, so I have to disagree with him again.
What we've got here with Breivik is a patsy on steroids.
This is either a psychotic or a fanatic or a double agent or a mercenary or something like this.
He is entirely a creature of NATO intelligence and this entire event is inconceivable without sponsorship by NATO intelligence.
First of all, concerning the ideological profile of the Patsy, I mean, one of the main rules in an analysis, as you've shown over the years, is that we don't want to focus too much on the Patsy that is being projected through the world media.
We want to look for the technicians and the moles that they don't want you to see, because the whole thing is designed to get you to fix it.
He's all flashy and the Photoshop glamour shots, the videos, the treatises, it's all a big fat ball of bacon on the end of a hook trying to catch a crawdad.
The public relations firm has gone to work for him, he's got publicity photos, it's like a press kit that people have been given for this character.
Now, just interesting, in this 1500 page screed of his, and maybe you can also comment on this, as I understand it from the London Daily Telegraph, a lot of that is simply plagiarized, lifted word for word from the Unabomber Manifesto, and that already is a contradiction because
No, no, no.
They admit about 95% of it is plagiarized and unattributed, which is what intelligence agencies just recently constantly get caught recycling garbage.
I guess the CIA or NATO intelligence budget didn't allow them to go out and hire some new hack writers.
But, again, enough of him.
Let's look for the moles and let's look for the technicians.
Maybe we start with the technicians.
According to this interesting Oslo newspaper, VG, and I've been getting some reports from some very fine people in Norway, VG reports eyewitnesses, there are at least two eyewitnesses that they name, and other eyewitnesses unnamed at this youth camp on the island.
We're good to go.
This looks like the person who actually carried out the shooting, because we've seen this again and again, right?
With Major Hassan at Fort Hood, they were one to two more shooters.
Drills, other shooters, Columbine, 7-7.
Sirhan, Sirhan, with Cho, Virginia Tech, there was a second shooter there.
Now, the police response to this, as I understand it, is to say there may be
Somebody else, this is an ongoing investigation, but if you talk about a second shooter, then you're spreading fear.
Now that's obviously, they want to suppress this.
I think this is important.
Don't let them write this out of the media narrative because it did get into CNN and CBS Radio News and France 24 and the world media have somehow registered that
No, just like John Doe No.
2 did, and then the FBI agent came out and told the LA Times, I've seen the tapes that we've confiscated under national security.
It shows McVeigh with a whole bunch of people, including John Doe No.
2, and we had eyewitnesses from inside the building that saw McVeigh the day before with the very same men inside doing telephone company work with gray sticks of butter.
I mean, it's always the same.
Of course this guy didn't act alone.
And they know the public's going to wake up to that, so now he says,
There's other cells that are about to strike any minute.
Webster, go ahead.
But before we get to this, one of the techniques has been if the police realize that there are these persistent reports of a second shooter with plenty of eyewitnesses and even a description in this case, which is remarkable, they go out and arrest somebody and then say, oh, no, that was the guy, but it turns out that he's not involved.
At 1 p.m.
on Friday, a man with a knife was arrested and then released.
There have been
As I understand it raids in a number of countries.
There's even a guy in Poland, according to my reports, there's a guy in Poland who is still being held under suspicion.
He at least has been arrested in Poland as a possible accomplice.
So this is the thing to look at because we have to assume that this other figure
Is the second shooter the technician?
In other words, the person who really has the weaponry he's described as somebody with an automatic rifle and a revolver or a handgun.
And we have to assume that it's going to be very difficult to kill 75 or 80 people on an island if you're just one person.
That poses just intrinsic
We're good to go.
And we know this came out a year ago that the CIA had penetrated their state police, national police, and the Oslo police, and were recruiting them to fight terror, including retired police.
That's the perfect network for this.
This is, of course, as you say, the CIMAS.
Right.
Security Incident Management Analysis System.
S-I-M-A-S.
That's the network.
That's the U.S.
government.
And the cells that they set up, they set up cells too.
These are called Surveillance Detection Units.
S-D-U-S.
So an Oslo television station in November of 2010 reports the U.S.
government is avidly recruiting
Former policemen, retired policemen, including the former head of the Oslo Anti-Terror Police, to take part in these surveillance detection units of the security incidents... Webster, this couldn't be any clearer.
I mean, Norway's not toeing the line for the New World Order police state.
And so, they get a right-wing attack in there, and now they get to use it all over the world.
You've got the Financial Times of London saying that this attack personifies the rise of the New Right.
In fact, let me read the exact headline.
And then, meanwhile, that's the name of the rise of the New Right show on MSNBC implying that I'm calling for violence by editing my words out of context.
I mean, this is really a setup, Webster.
Yes, sir, because everybody should realize, every word out of this guy's mouth, every word on his idiotic manifesto, this is coming from NATO headquarters, Brussels.
Look at it that way.
Or Langley, Virginia.
Or Wilton, uh, uh... And whereas NATO was staging Operation Gladio's stuff against leftist and people in the 70s and 80s, now it's against the populist who aren't going to go along with the New World Order takeover.
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Alright, I want to continue looking at this momming and shooting and people are like, hey, it's Norway, why do we care?
Ladies and gentlemen, they are all over the news.
Every major TV station, every major network in Europe, the United States, England, saying they are going to start putting conservatives on no-fly lists, no judge, no jury.
They're going to start tracking everybody.
They're going to start demonizing.
They're going to start tracking gun purchases outside of law.
The ATF already started that.
I saw all the pre-scripting to change the war on terror away from only hyperventilating about Muslims underneath the table, trying to bite you, to the white people, the conservatives, the libertarians.
You know, they are the devil.
If somebody's Hispanic and a libertarian, look out, or black and into freedom, look out.
This is basically about the system going after everybody.
The left are terrorists, the Muslims are terrorists, the right-wing are terrorists.
Everybody's a terrorist but the ruling class.
And you look at all of these things as Facebook being changed and Christian and conservative being added.
I mean, I disagree with Dr. Pucinich.
I mean, I can see from his perspective that
You know, he thinks this is real.
But I mean, I don't see evidence of that.
And I wish that was the truth, because that's not as scary as knowing the system did this.
Now, Webster, we have their own media saying, look, for some reason, NATO and the U.S.
are infiltrating us.
We have a history of over 200 bombings in Gladio.
For those that don't know, tell folks what Gladio is and NATO stay behind networks.
This group is trying to pull out of NATO operations.
I mean, this this is really pretty
I think it's quite obvious.
Let me just say, concerning the police, moles in the police, before we move on to your question, the moles in the police I think are indicated by the fact that it takes 90 minutes, 60 minutes, 90 minutes, an hour and a half for the police to get to the island.
Why were there no helicopters available in Oslo to transport
A SWAT team, the Delta Force, or whatever they have, from downtown Oslo, or wherever their base is, to this island with the youth camp.
Why did they have to go by car, essentially?
Why no helicopters?
And why, when they get there, did they load all their equipment into a boat, and then have the boat begin to sink?
Uh, you could say this is the Keystone Cops, this is a comedy of errors, but I don't think so.
It reminds me again of the Paris police leaving Princess Diana in this car for the best part of an hour after that accident.
It's a level of incompetence that simply...
Okay.
We've got a Patsy.
He's being built up.
He's a media star.
We've got a technician, at least one technician in the background.
That would be the second shooter.
And we've got pretty obvious moles in the police.
We even have a name for their network.
That would be this S-I-M-A-S.
Now you say Gladio.
The question for me is, is this
Security Incident Management Analysis System, the new Gladio, the old Gladio, was that when General Lyman Lemnitzer, after having made that Operation Northwoods proposal to Kennedy and getting turned down, Lemnitzer then went on to become the commander of NATO in Brussels, and he began to set up what were called stay-behind operations.
They already existed.
But he put them on a new active footing.
Now, these existed in all countries.
The Italian case is best documented, but there are pretty good indications in other countries.
So the Gladio is a series of arms caches with guerrilla fighters organized around them.
The idea is that they'll wage guerrilla warfare against the Soviet Red Army if the Soviets roll over.
But instead they go stage terror attacks and blame it on their political enemies and false flags.
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Okay, in other news, we've got Paul Watson joining us in a few minutes with Webster Tarpley.
I want to jam in a few of your calls.
They're using this whole fracas over the debt limit, because if we don't raise the debt limit, it's catastrophe.
If we do raise it, it's rack and ruin, as Ron Paul has said, because they're not going to put in the reforms that fix things.
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And then if they don't do the debt ceiling, then there'll be a huge default, the Treasuries will be killed, and it's another disaster.
So, it's just absolutely horrible that there's an article out of the Huffington Post, super Congress debt ceiling negotiations aimed to create new legislative body.
And they go on to say it's not in the Constitution, but that the group will be given extraordinary powers by the President and Vice Speaker Boehner, McConnell,
Uh, and of course, Reed, the super Congress composed of members of the both chambers and parties isn't mentioned anywhere in the Constitution, but will be granted extraordinary new powers under a plan put forth by Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell.
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Surprise, surprise, they want a power grab.
And I gotta say, Tarpley, we're gonna come back after the break with Watson and yourself and recap this false flag in Europe and why it's important.
And your evidence of what Gladio was, and this is a continuation of that, because I want you to define it.
I don't want to get in a fight with you, but I heard your show Saturday, or part of it,
When I was in the car listening to local radio and I heard you saying, let's use the 14th Amendment.
Well, that was an interpretation by Ulysses S. Grant during Reconstruction.
And is the president saying that this isn't even against the states?
This is the president with the Congress.
And you're saying, well, they won't raise the debt ceiling.
Well, they're they're calling for cuts.
So regardless if you agree with those cuts or not, under the Constitution it is the Congress's right to control the issuance of currency, credit and monetary policy.
And so I disagree with you that the President can engage in dictatorial activity.
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It is a worldwide economic and financial cataclysm, and that part is not made up.
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It's possible, but I think it's a stretch to analyze these conflicts.
These are real conflicts about real economic survival.
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Now there's a lot of other news we haven't even gotten into today that's up on InfoWars.com.
Bank finance drug gang plans to overthrow Mexican government next year.
Well, that's been what the whole six-year staged war's been about, according to our sources like Selig Castile.
So, we're gonna be going over that obviously a lot more tomorrow, but I've spent a lot of time on this shooter.
We're gonna go to a few of your calls coming up here in a few minutes.
I spent a lot of time on this because I saw the branding.
I saw the pre-hype.
Just like I saw it before 9-11.
You'd have to be blind.
They get you ready for this.
They prep it.
It's all done at a fifth grade level.
And they are trying to foment a clash of Western and Eastern civilization.
Islam and Christendom.
Regardless of what you think about those two sides, this is what's going on.
This is the stated PNAC.
And Israeli plan.
Put whatever label they want on anybody, ahead of all these new wars and things they're trying to do.
Who does this serve, Webster?
And we're going to Paul Watson with you, joining us via video Skype.
I mean, we know that the CIA was infiltrating their police a year ago, that's confirmed.
We know there were drills.
We know there was a second shooter with multiple witnesses saying dark hair, Nordic features, shooting people.
The cops don't want to talk about that, though it's even on CNN.
We've got this ledger that he obviously didn't write.
We've got his Facebook being changed after he was arrested to say conservative and Christian.
I mean, this really looks like a way to get the left behind the war on terror, the left behind the police state, because people aren't going along with the Muslim fear-mongering anymore, Webster.
I think, again, we have to realize that his entire ideological profile is a complete fake.
In other words, it's a crazy quilt of contradictory elements thrown together and probably changing, right?
Changing from day to day according to the needs of demagogy, manipulation, and so forth.
All of these things are designed to play on people's psychological weaknesses.
Hatreds, resentments, envies.
Class fear, religious fear, sexual fear, God knows what else goes into this.
Get us fighting with each other so we don't fight with the establishment.
What about the pro-Palestinian rally the day before?
What about the fact that in this manifesto he loves what Israel's doing?
But again, we don't even know if he really wrote this.
Some of this is lifted from the Unabomber and some of this is some little grey bureaucrat there in NATO in Brussels and Monk, right, M-O-N-K?
No, no, but why would the establishment then finger Israel?
Precisely, because this is an issue with Norway.
Norway is traditionally a pro-Arab country in NATO.
It's an exception to the rule.
It was Norway, after all, that sponsored the Oslo peace talks, right?
Between Rabin of the Israelis and Arafat of the Palestinians.
That was in 1994.
That led to the signing of the Oslo Accords on the White House lawn with Clinton and Arafat and Rabin.
Now, that caused, of course, a backlash in the reactionary Israeli circles leading to the killing of Rabin.
But this is the...
Traditional policy that they have.
Now, as we're heading towards the United Nations General Assembly in September, there's going to be a resolution to actually create a Palestinian state through the UN General Assembly in the same way that Israel was created by the General Assembly, not by the Security Council back in 1948.
And the Norwegians have announced that they will vote for that and they will also recognize that government when it exists.
So this obviously opens up a conflict, not just with the Israelis, but also with
Hillary Clinton, the State Department, and the U.S.
in general, but also maybe with the NATO people and the Brussels Commission.
However, I think the big thing, the thing that's new, because what we've seen so far is traditional,
Although it's important, the thing that's new, that is very concrete, is that Norway had been providing 10% of the bombing effort over Libya with six planes, and now as we move towards August 1st, those six planes will be pulled out.
They're already down to four.
You talked about this last night.
It's a political message to the ruling class.
We can kill you whenever we want with Patsy's that'll then take the fall.
Webster, I want to bring in...
Let me just say that it's a message to the Netherlands, to Italy, to Canada, to Germany, to all sorts of people.
Watch out.
We, this clique in the CIA and NATO and MI6, we want to continue bombing Libya.
Don't you dare sabotage our effort.
Absolutely.
Now I want to go to Paul Watson and then to calls with you riding shotgun Webster, but finishing up at the end of the last hour, you got caught off by the break.
You were saying that L.L.
Lemnitzer, the Northwoods mastermind, gets basically, you know, kicked out by Kennedy.
He goes after Kennedy's kill to be the head of NATO.
And it's on record in what German and Italian investigations, their parliament has had their former intelligence chief and former president come out and admit it, that they set up these stay-behind armed networks of the Soviets, were to ever overrun Europe, that there were already secret cells with weapons to wage a Wolverine, Red Dawn, insurgency operation against the invasion.
What they then did was every time a political party got a little uppity, left wing, right wing, didn't matter, communist, whatever, got too uppity and the system didn't like them, they would just blow up a school bus, blow up a train, and blame it on their political enemies.
That's been confirmed.
So any final comments on the parallels here to Gladio?
Well, Bigladio, of course, you can look this up in Daniele Ganser's book, NATO's Secret Armies.
I mean, there are lots of sort of mainstream academic works that go into this, at least to some extent.
What happened was that the people who were recruited as the staff, the guerrilla fighters that were organized around these large deposits of weapons, explosives, and other such tools,
These were largely fascists.
A lot of them were old Nazis, old fascists, and so forth.
And they then, with NATO intelligence backing them up, began to carry out terrorism by about the middle of the 1960s, and then increasingly in the years after that.
And this then became a kind of infrastructure of NATO-sponsored terrorism.
And there's never been an accounting for this.
So if you look at this guy,
Why Vic with his crazy syncretic ideology?
This could be somebody in that tradition.
Well, he fits it 100%.
He got NATO infiltrating the police the year before and the media freaking out.
I mean, if you go back here, Webster, this fits in just absolutely precisely.
Even Kurt Nemo, the week before last, wrote an article saying, you know, will NATO... I forget the exact headline.
Let's pull it up for PrisonPlanet.tv viewers.
I think it was...
Will NATO play the Gladio card?
That was the headline.
Kurt Nemo even saw it coming.
And in effect they did.
Remember, the 22nd or 23rd of June, at the opening of those women's... the women's... the Women's World Soccer Championship...
Hello?
I'm sorry, we just had a thunderclap here.
The Women's World Soccer Championship, there was a German attorney by the name of Geest, G-E-E-S-T.
And she was worried about a stage terror, that was the month before.
He talked about the possibility of nuclear terrorism, so it didn't happen in Germany, then it happened just about exactly one month later in Oslo.
So we were all on high alert for this, and now it comes along, and to say this is the unicorn, or this is authentic, I think that's just absurd.
All right, let's bring Paul Watson up with Webster briefly and then with any new research points or data he has.
Let's bring Paul Watson up via video connection from the United Kingdom and then go to a few phone calls.
Paul, I think
We're Webster's going with this report last November about NATO and CIA infiltrating the police department in Oslo and recruiting former police.
The drills, I mean clearly this is an Operation Gladio kickstart.
They've reignited this.
It's very clear and you've got the whole Israeli connection into this attacking this Palestinian youth camp.
Similar to the Zionists that went to the Dome of the Rock, what a decade ago, and shot, you know, close to a hundred people.
We've got a look in that area, but then at the same time, and there's Kurt's article from a week and a half ago, will NATO resurrect Operation Gladiator to frame Qaddafi?
Well, no, it's to frame the right wing.
Paul, what's your view on all this from your research?
Well, it seems that at the bare minimum, Alex, they knew about this guy.
They'd tracked him before.
Norwegian MI5 had Massacre Suspect on list and it turns out that back in March, he had been included in an intelligence database because he bought an amount of chemicals off a Polish individual on the internet.
And so, straight after that, they put him in the database as a potential terrorist.
And then, of course, we had the report from Channel 4 News, which
Came out on Friday, where before the police even confronted him, they knew his name.
They shouted his name out as soon as they got to the island, even though it took them 90 minutes to get there.
And as soon as they shouted his name out, he dropped his weapons and came quietly.
So all this stuff about the incompetence of the Norwegian police doesn't quite jive with the fact that they knew his identity beforehand.
They had him in this database for the past seven months.
And some new research which is just now coming to the fore is the fact that in 2006, obviously according to his manifesto, you know, he's been planning this for years, and his financial records actually appear on the internet as Norwegian citizens do for the past, well, the most recent year is 2009.
And in 2006 he goes from basically having a
Not even a hundred dollars in his bank account to 2007, where he's got 631,000 kroner, which amounts to about $116,000 in his bank account.
So, you know, how did he get that money?
Who gave him that money?
Where did he get it from?
And from then on he starts to spend the money, he starts to plan this operation.
And we know that they had him in the database since at least March.
Well he may just be a person who believes he's doing a good thing and is unstable, but a high level functioning psychopath, I guess what you call a moral psychopath if such a thing exists.
The point is,
Uh, is that then they handle him, they provocateur him like McVeigh to play a limited role and then all their people are pulled out and protected following the classic paradigm that they've perfected with these, uh, false flag, uh, patsy, uh, setups.
And then now he's more than happy as an egomaniac.
To take all the credit and to say, don't worry, my other cells are about to attack.
And indeed they are, because it's NATO running the Norwegian police with British intelligence clearly involved.
He's in England getting his walking orders with a group of people that call themselves the Knights Templar.
I know there's a group that does indeed meet and promote this.
We even saw that in that Sky television show that demonized yours truly, Paul Watson.
Well yeah, of course we know somebody else who started obsessing and talking about the Knights, Templar and the Freemasons and that was of course Mr. Shayla, the former MI5 agent who suddenly started dressing like a woman and calling himself Jesus.
And then you also have
This individual in Norway, Breivik, who was tied into the English Defence League.
He went and visited them in 2002.
The English Defence League basically is played off against militant Muslims in Britain routinely to foster this clash of civilisations.
It's a pathetic group made up of former drunk football hooligans, completely infiltrated by MI5, just as the neo-Nazis are also infiltrated by MI5.
Not infiltrated, it's come out in Germany and England that the Nazi groups are founded and run by the government.
But I mean, this EDL is so pathetic that it's... They splash it all over the newspapers every time they want to get us at each other's throats.
So here's Bravik going to visit them in 2002.
In 2007, he suddenly finds $116,000 in his account.
He's later put on a terrorism database, and the police know his name before they even get to the island.
And now we're hearing that domestic groups all over the world, from England to the U.S.
to the continent of Europe, have to be watched.
If you're talking about globalism or open borders, you're bad now.
I mean, this is perfect branding.
And Paul, did we not call it with the crescendo of white al-Qaeda leading up to this?
I mean, what do you think about what Pchenik was saying earlier, that he thinks this is real?
Well, it could be real in the sense that this individual thought he was doing what he was doing for his own cause, which is outlined, but I mean, that's exactly what Timothy McVeith thought, but it turned out that he was a complete patsy, you know.
There were more individuals involved in the plot, then Nicholls came out later and said, yeah, we were provocateur by the government.
So, we've got exactly the same indicators in this, and like you just said,
This is Christian Science Monitor.
Norway massacre likely to ramp up monitoring of right-wing groups.
And it says, the sudden appearance of a murderous and crusading figure who sees himself as a martyr for Judeo-Christian European civilization is expected to ramp up surveillance by intelligence agencies of a far-right culture that has grown and flourished in the greenhouse of the internet.
Well, here's another one.
Oh yeah, it's all the internet allowed him to be radicalized, so we've got to censor the web right as YouTube adds its report.
This promotes terrorism, Link.
Here it is.
Killer personifies rise of the new right.
Financial Times of London.
Chris Matthews TV show demonizing myself and Ron Paul.
Rise of the new right.
So the left, the Muslims, they're all terrorists.
Speak of the devil, there's Chris Matthews race baiting right there behind me.
You don't like government health care, you're a racist.
I mean, you can really see that this is engineered.
And continuing here, Webster Tarpley, this is scary.
I don't know if you're aware of it, but we completely predicted Thursday that a staged terror attack, to be blamed on the right, was imminent.
Again, why would the social engineers want to do this?
Well, again, I would just say this character, Breivik, this is from central casting.
In other words, this is some kind of a Nordic hero for people who want to take this stuff seriously.
It is artificial, fake, hoked up,
Uh, from beginning to end.
I don't see anything authentic in this person.
You know, this could be an example of clockwork orange brainwashing.
We just don't know what these capabilities are.
The point of it is, at the level of the elites, it basically says, when the orders come down from the US and the British, from NATO intelligence, you obey.
Otherwise,
You're going to have your office bombed and you're going to have this camp.
We have to figure that some of the children of high officials in the government were attending that camp.
In other words, this could not be more political, focused on the policy of an older government.
It's a message.
You do what we say or your kids are dead.
Absolutely, and we know your schedule, we know where your children are, so it's completely political.
In other words, it's got everything to do, and I don't think much at all to do with this internal stuff about the assimilation of Muslims and these issues.
It's got to do with the foreign policy, a pro-Arab foreign policy in general, friendly to the Palestinians, but most immediately
But it has the double goody though, because the systems that run this country and Europe also do want to go after nationalists.
And he dresses up in WMD outfits to help further the fear.
All of it 100% scripted for maximum effect.
And he admits, I'm not acting alone, I'm part of a knighthood.
They just got this easily controlled person in there who thinks he's doing a great job.
I'm sure, like McVeigh, they told him, this is U.S.
Army, we're going to do this to, you know, fight the corruption in government, go carry out the attack.
And then later he found out he was set up.
They said, we'll kill your family if you don't go along with this.
That's come out even in government documents.
So, yeah, I mean, I don't know how.
Well, I'm going to have him back up, maybe the two of you together.
I mean, you know, Pchenik comes out and says the Bin Laden thing's fake.
Clearly it is.
9-11's fake.
You know, he does a lot of things like that.
And Pchenik, I need to get him back on because he never wants to talk about it.
The London Telegraph and reportedly the event with the Red Brigades grabbing the Italian president.
And Pchenik says he put out the report according to the Telegraph that
Let me just add one other thing.
Based on what I've heard from his appearances on your program, he seems to be saying civilians are bad, military is good, and in the world of the military, General Petraeus is really, really good.
Petraeus, obviously, a favorite presidential candidate of the neocons, in the wings, a stealth candidate, uniting the Pentagon now and the CIA.
That would be Bonapartism with a vengeance.
In other words, a man on horseback
I don't want to hear people talking about Petraeus for president or Petraeus is the man we can trust.
Well, I guess if you want to try it, sure.
Why not?
No, I'm simply saying that Petraeus, people haven't maybe noticed it, but Petraeus is the gathering point of most neocons, although some of them are looking elsewhere.
Soon as we can set up the video Skype.
The fact that he went and targeted predominantly young, white Norwegians, I don't think that's something that can explain with these convoluted mental gymnastics.
Why didn't he just go and blow up a mosque?
There's one in the centre of Oslo.
If he's an anti-Muslim extremist, why kill young, white people?
Just doesn't make sense to me.
If I may also add, he's a composite figure, as I understand.
He's private, but he's also, he's got a blog apparently under the name Fjordman.
Some people think that's him.
And he's known as Andrew Berwick when he puts his screen up on the internet.
So, a composite figure.
He fits every one of the M.O.s.
My gut tells me it's never wrong.
This is as phony as a three dollar bill.
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I dropped the ball today.
I was supposed to call Jesse Ventura this morning because he was ready to talk about his federal court case from Friday to get him set up for the show today or tomorrow, and I didn't call him.
So as soon as the show ends here in a moment, even before I do RT, I'm telling my crew to remind me to call Ventura.
But he's about to leave town again, so I don't know if he'll be on tomorrow now, because I didn't call him.
Also,
We've got, we're going to get Jim Mars on this week to talk about this whole Knights Templar connection.
It's still operating in England.
We're also going to get Alan Walker and a lot of other folks on to break down because this terror attack, just like Oklahoma City, signifies a shift in the war on terror, a shift in geopolitical actions.
They're going to still kill the Muslims, invade them, all that, but now the police state they've set up and sold the public that was just going to be for Muslims is going to be shifted on to the general public.
So we've got Paul Watson there riding shotgun with us.
Webster Griffin Tarbley always a great asset.
Incredible historical understanding and depth and breadth.
He's no hat in all cattle as we say here in Texas where a lot of folks are all hat and no cattle.
Again, I'm Alex Jones of Infowars.com.
Thank you for joining us.
Let's go to Renee in South Carolina.
Questions or comments for Paul Watson, myself, or Webster Tarpley?
Yes, I wanted to just say what an honor and a privilege it is to speak with both of you.
Thank you for taking my call.
Webster kind of stole my thunder.
I was wondering myself, you know, what makes people think that this guy even wrote this manifesto?
That's what was on my mind.
Well, I mean, they made all the fake WMD documents.
They just, I mean, all the time the Associated Press says, Al-Qaeda says they did this or did that, and they'll say at the bottom of the article, from a unconfirmed forum.
Well, you can go on forums and read that I am an 18 trillion year old reptoid lizard from Pop-Tart who drinks blood.
And actually, they're on to me.
It's true.
But, you know, the point is, is that, you know, how do you prove that?
Webster, are you a reptoid?
Webster, are you on to me that I'm a reptoid Vatican assassin?
The word is out.
No, it's like Alex Jones, CIA, there's the proof.
No, but seriously, I mean, they can't even confirm this is his manifesto.
So it's not that I'm defending Israel here, that this guy isn't a Zionist.
The point is, how do we know any of it's true?
I mean, no, most of it is not true.
In other words, most of it is invented out of whole cloth, or as close to that as it's physically possible to get.
And it will change.
And what I'm waiting for is, we always have these cases, right?
Oswald, of course, was a devoted communist, except he was working for the CIA Operations Directorate and the U.S.
Customs and God knows what.
And when they sent him to the Soviets, and then they tried to get him into Cuba.
They wanted to sheep-dip him to try to be able to pin what he would later do on the Soviets.
And that's a process that took quite a while, right?
That took some years to get that ready.
Atta was, of course, a pious Muslim.
But, in fact, he would go to the discotheque.
He would drink all kinds of Cuban vodka.
He had a liquor girlfriend.
No.
Exactly.
And he thought he was going home.
He thought he was going to be an actor in a drill and then he'd be back in the discotheque in the evening.
I've been on this subject from when you were talking about the bioweapons and I've been covering it up on my website.
I have a post.
It has two teenage boys from the island with a Boycott Israel banner holding it up.
It's like a six foot long banner.
I want to read from my post.
The Palestinians must have their own state.
The occupation must end.
The wall must be demolished.
And it must happen now, said the Foreign Minister, to cheers from the audience.
The Foreign Minister, Jonas.
Gahar Store.
So that's what this is all really about.
This is Zionism in that Peshenik discredited himself.
That was the biggest piece of CIA disinfo.
Once CIA, always CIA.
And if he was really anti-CIA, he would have had an accident by now.
Alright, that's all I have to say on that.
And I'd like to say overall though, Alex, I agree with you on the knock-on effect.
Taking the rights away and everything.
Justifying it by this.
But please know, this is all about
Zionism, Jewish supremacy, Rothschild banking cartel, that's the nexus of this thing, in my opinion.
Alright, Aaron, I appreciate your call.
We've got to move on to the other callers.
Alex, let me just say, that is relevant up to a point, but the question is, why now?
In other words, the pro-Palestinian, pro-Arab orientation of the Norwegian government goes back to 93-94.
Now, we are approaching this vote, right?
There is a certain
Why would Israel, though, carry this out and then cattle on themselves in the manifesto?
Because I think it's NATO intelligence.
In other words, I think that the Israeli concerns are subsumed into the policies of what NATO intelligence is doing.
And I think we've pretty well identified a network in the Norwegian police, which is basically set up by the U.S.
And again, if it's 10% of the bombing and it's leading to the collapse of the coalition, this is an emergency.
No, no, no, you're right.
It's not based on ideology.
It's based on power and control.
And I think Libya is the immediate
It is a coup threat.
It is a coup demonstration.
It's like Governor Tarkin blowing up Alderaan to scare the other space systems.
So we've got a prefabricated, ready-made-to-order, off-the-shelf reason to say, you Norwegian government, you're incompetent, you must fall, because you allowed, in the Wikileaks days even, bomb-making equipment was lost.
Yeah, they've infiltrated the police.
They've got the network set up a year ago.
They launched the attacks.
I have to totally agree with you.
Paul Watson, any comments on this?
Well, I mean, just study the behavior of this guy, according to eyewitnesses.
He's walking around with this serene look on his face as he's massacring scores of young people.
The people who worked with him, who knew him personally, said they thought he was brainwashed.
And then you've got the fact that he lives on this farm, which is right next to the elite military special forces complex in Norway.
His father was in Norwegian special forces.
And then you have the eyewitness reports, which the media has largely ignored, of gunshots being heard from two different parts of the island, and quote, a man with dark hair, dark hair in civilian clothes, being seen firing another weapon.
So, classic Sirhan Sirhan style patsy, with the brainwashing, with the serene look on his face, the calm demeanour.
I mean, it all has a familiar echo to it.
Watson, good job.
We need a report going over that because people probably don't know that the L.A.
detectives said at the time Sirhan Sirhan had his hand pinned to the table.
None of the bullets hit Kennedy.
Kennedy was shot from behind repeatedly with the caliber.
We even know now who pulled the trigger.
Three CIA agents in the speech beforehand photographed.
This is all in the news.
People forget Sirhan Sirhan has now confirmed, yes, the woman in the dress
I'd already been under mind control.
She gave me a drink of the Halcyon chemicals, put him in the trance.
I mean, this is ridiculous.
And we now see the building of this guy up to this Superman, hoping that he will encourage real dislocated whites to now become violent instead of becoming political.
I mean, this whole thing, clash of civilizations, then the government plays the part of the referee.
What's your take on that, Watson?
Well, certainly, I mean, I've read comments, I've read numerous comments in support of his actions.
There are Facebook fan pages that have already been set up in support of what he did.
So, undoubtedly, they're looking for copycats, and if they get them, then it's going to destroy the whole wave of European conservatism that's been peeling back this EU-SSR agenda, because the Conservatives have been very successful in recent years.
I mean, the True Fin Party, and that, again,
This is a psychic warhead.
I want you to finish your point.
This is a psychic warhead, a poison dart fired in to nationalists who understand the global banking cartel.
The left is not opposing the New World Order.
They're not opposing the Anglo-American elite.
They're not opposing the Rothschilds and Rockefellers.
They're not talking about eugenics.
They love it.
It's only what you'll call populist right-wing that is getting Hispanics, blacks, Arabs, everybody together
That, this show, what we do, common sense populism, opposing the banksters is, is, is, is the end of the New World Order, is cyanide to them.
And so they are going to infect our movements with racism and, and, and Illuminati garbage and bombs and, and killing so they can hammer the daylights out of us with the security services that are behind the terrorism.
There is no doubt about that.
Paul, finish your Finn party article.
Well, I mean, it's in CNN right now.
Europe's resurgent far right focuses on immigration multiculturalism.
And they're lumping it all on the true Finns, they're lumping it on Gert Wilders, the Dutch politician who's been very successful, his party for freedom recently.
So yeah, the conservatives in Europe are having a lot of success and now they're all on the back foot because of the actions of this individual and the establishment in Europe is going to push it.
Just like Oklahoma City.
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