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Big Brother.
Mainstream media.
Government cover-ups.
You want answers?
Well, so does he.
He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
Often imitated?
And successfully duplicated.
That is my goal, to get people involved, to alert the population to the threat of the Global Crime Syndicate, the Private Banking Syndicate, to shadow the left-right paradigm, and to get the people of the planet and the United States saying no to the New World Order.
So, often imitated and duplicated, that is our goal.
Thank you so much for joining us today.
We are live.
It is Wednesday, the 21st day of April, 2010, and we're going to be live here for the next four hours.
Katherine Austin Fitch was on with us a few weeks ago.
Formerly headed up HUD, and she's an expert on the New World Order and the criminal banking cartel that is setting up a worldwide dictatorship, a financial dictatorship, backed up with paramilitary forces and a Green Gaia neo-feudalistic serf system.
She'll be joining us in the third hour, in the fourth hour, haven't had him on in years.
You know, years just slipped past us and he was the head of the FBI in Southern California with thousands of agents under him.
He was the head of the FBI in Dallas before that and I want to get him on about a host of issues.
He is in the hospital and has had cancer.
Ted Gunderson will be joining us.
From an undisclosed location.
He's had people trying to kill him, but he is in a hospital right now.
He will be joining us coming up in the fourth hour today.
Ted Gonderson joining us in the fourth hour today.
He also was involved in COINTELPRO, so I'll give you some window view into, a bird's-eye view into that.
So Ted Gonderson, former high-level retired FBI agent who woke up when he found out that basically there's a satanic group of pedophiles running our country and the world.
Of course, he got laughed at by many people 20 years ago, but documented much of what he covered.
And now, a lot of what he covered decades ago is mainstream news.
So Ted Gunderson coming up in the last hour today.
You certainly want to join us for that.
I have a whole bunch of important stacks of news here in front of me.
Threat of new larger Icelandic eruption looms.
There's a lot of top volcanologists saying with all this increase in volcanic and seismic
Earthquakes tsunamis around the world that there is an increasing chance though.
It's a low chance, but an increasing chance That there could be an eruption In and around the super volcano around Montana, Wyoming Colorado, you know that whole area
That would be extremely devastating, and I meant to get to this a few days ago, but I will cover it later in the broadcast, like later in the shower.
Of course, it centers in and around Yellowstone Park.
But threat of new, larger Icelandic eruption looms.
Scientists are saying it could go for a month more, it could go for six months, it could erupt for two years.
You see, the Earth is always changing.
The only thing that is constant is change.
That's why it's so asinine when Al Gore says, pay me a carbon tax and I will save you from the rising sea levels.
It is a ridiculous joke.
The sea levels are not rising.
The Earth is actually cooling.
And if this eruption continues, it may make the Earth two or three degrees, scientists are saying, colder in the next two years.
So, generally volcanoes of this type that eject ash into the upper atmosphere cool the earth.
Scientists have shown that the giant meteor that caused the extinction of many of the dinosaurs
That hit around the Yucatan Peninsula, where the Gulf of Mexico enters into the Caribbean, that that ejected so much particulate into the atmosphere that it caused as much as a 30 degree on average temperature reduction, triggering an ice age basically that wiped them out.
The cold-blooded dinosaurs.
Okay.
GOP seeks SEC records on Goldman and Obama.
This is getting nasty.
We'll cover that as well.
Stay with us.
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From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.
It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
Former Los Angeles and Southern California FBI Chief Ted Gunnarsson will be joining us today in the last hour.
It is Wednesday, the 21st day of April 2010.
And of course we have Katherine Austin Fitch joining us for a full hour today, part two of the last interview we did.
We didn't have time to finish up getting into solutions and a program that she has to financially defeat the New World Order.
So she'll be joining us live today to discuss that in the third hour.
We're also premiering Police State 4, The Rise of FEMA.
At 3 p.m.
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Coming up, the threat of a new, larger Icelandic eruption looms.
That's out of the AP.
And this dovetails with an AFP, Agency French Press report.
Rare Yellowstone volcano eruption would be deadly.
So I do want to get into some of that today.
Separately, GOP seeks SEC records on Goldman Sachs.
Representative Daryl Issa, the top Republican on the House Oversight Committee, is demanding a slew of documents from the Securities and Exchange Commission, asserting that the timing of civil charges against Goldman Sachs raises serious questions about the Commission's independence and impartiality.
Yeah, right up before the election.
That's a civil matter, so it allows them to suck up all the evidence and cover it up.
The SEC's been intimately involved in the cover-up.
They're demanding all the emails from the White House, from the Treasury Secretary, and others involved, who are, by the way, all either financed by Goldman Sachs or former Goldman Sachs presidents, CEOs, vice presidents.
I mean, there isn't a top slot.
Whether it's Larry Summers, whether it's Paulson, whether it's Bernanke, whether it's Tim Geithner,
I mean, all of them.
All of them.
Either headed it up or were the deputy of the head.
And so they sit in all the positions.
They sit in the Treasury.
They sit in all the Federal Reserve positions.
They sit in Goldman Sachs.
They sit in the SEC.
And this is how they get away with bloody murder.
It's like when Paulson, we have this in the Obama deception, was being grilled after he'd been Secretary, after he'd left, and they said, where did the hundreds of billions go?
And he says, I won't tell you.
And Congress says, well, how did you give a bailout to your own company, Goldman Sachs, and you got $200 million at least in one payment yourself, personally?
And he said, oh, I got a waiver.
And they said, who gave you a waiver?
Oh, the Treasury Department gave me a waiver.
Well, who was the head of the Treasury Department?
Well, I was!
This would be like a bank manager giving himself a letter authorizing him to open the vault up at midnight and carry all the bags of cash out and put it in the back of his truck.
It's illegal!
I mean, you can't... That's what's so dangerous about the White House lawyers under Bush and now under Obama.
Saying the President is God.
He's the Fuhrer.
It's not illegal when the President orders children tortured.
It's not illegal when the President orders the murders of individuals.
It's not illegal.
Well, yes it is.
I mean, can the President have pygmies flown in from Africa and then marinate them and then cook them on a spit?
No.
Could the President snort cocaine on the White House lawn?
No.
Could Richard Nixon?
I mean, he tried it at the time to say when the president... In fact, there's those famous tapes.
He says, oh, when the president does it, though, it's not illegal.
Isn't that right?
He's sitting there talking to his top men in the Oval Office.
When I do it, it's not illegal.
When I do it, it's okay.
I'm not a crook.
I'm not.
I'm not a crook.
This is fundamental.
This is the fundamental lawlessness of government, where they've just trained their minions to accept lying at every level.
And then the liars feel like they're insiders.
They're part of the lie.
You know, I've studied World War I, World War II.
I've studied the French and Indian War.
I've studied the Spanish Civil War.
What, in 1937, 38, 39?
And I've studied the dispatches from the time from both sides.
I was just reading a history book about that the other day.
And even the lowest level officers on both the fascist and communist side in the Spanish Civil War, it was all about deceit, all about staging terror attacks, all about blaming each other for massacres.
It's a culture of lying.
And that's why once you have the Pentagon that Eisenhower warned us about, what in 61?
I mean, how many years ago was that?
49 years ago.
That's why it's so dangerous to have militarized police and have a military surveillance system in America, because they are trained in their culture to lie and to kill and to steal.
And that's one thing if you're getting overrun and attacked by some other nation, and dirty tricks are played.
And I'm not even rationalizing that.
Because once you go down that road, see where we are.
But that's another thing altogether.
You certainly don't turn that loose inside your nation.
But that's now happened, and it's fundamental.
I know I say this a lot, but we need to get this out to everybody.
It's fundamental that this isn't our government.
I get sent these emails, I see daily news articles attacking me, mainstream, alternative, it doesn't matter.
I mean, there's so many of them, I don't even read them, I just scan over them quickly.
And they attack from every front.
But their main attack is, I hate America, and I want to bring down America, and so that's why I'm criticizing the government.
That's the common theme.
You know, I'm here pointing out that we've been colonized by offshore banks, that there is a hostile corporate takeover going on, and we have all the banking documents, all the Club of Rome, all the UN documents, all the Rand Corporation, CFR, public and private and declassified and stolen and leaked, and we know that they hate America, they want to bring it down, they want to bankrupt the average person, they want to get you deep in debt.
That's the big power structure.
But on the left, they say, you're anti-American, you're trying to undermine the president.
And on the phony right, they say the same thing.
You're trying to undermine America talking about the police state.
It's a joke.
I mean, when Bush was in office, I was called a hardcore communist.
And I'm a constitutionalist.
Now that Obama's in, I'm called an extreme right-winger who's calling for violence.
And you, as listeners know, that's a lie.
That's a complete, manufactured lie.
The government and even mainstream newspaper repeats it, says I work for the Vatican when I'm not even Catholic.
They say I work for Israel when I have no connection to Israel and I'm very critical of Israel and have made films critical of Israel.
They say I'm a Scientologist.
I've been critical of Scientology.
I don't know any Scientologists.
I'm not involved in it.
They say, I mean, the sky's the limit.
In fact, it was put out that I was secretly an Al-Qaeda sleeper cell and then I worked for Al-Qaeda
This goes back six years because I was saying 9-11 was an inside job.
And I've now seen classic Republican operatives.
Like what, Cliff Kincaid and others.
And it's not effective.
I'm just pointing it out so you understand what they're doing.
Saying, I work for Lyndon LaRouche.
I've never interviewed Lyndon LaRouche.
I've been critical of Lyndon LaRouche.
His analysis of the British banking cartel is accurate.
But so is Carol Quigley.
I mean, you know, Georgetown professor.
Who was one of their historians.
Who was for it.
900 page book.
I mean, but I don't agree with LaRouche's answer to things.
Big government.
They say, I'm a Russian agent.
That's a new one.
Because on 888, it was in the British and German and Russian and Japanese news that the Georgians snuck attacked South Ossetia, started shelling it, went into the military bases, killed the Russian peacekeepers.
And then we learned that Dick Cheney wanted to start World War III with the Russians.
And our news ran a giant hoax saying that Russia had attacked Georgia.
Well, Ron Paul's been on the show and stated the fact that NATO and Georgia attacked that Russian-controlled area.
We had Dr. Bob Bowman on yesterday.
I mean, that's just a fact.
That's like saying the sun didn't come up this morning.
And they say, no, I'm making it up.
The preposterous lie that
U.S.-backed Georgia attack South Ossetia.
I mean, within three or four days, CNN had to reverse themselves.
I mean, they put the leader of Georgia on CNN, on Fox, everywhere, calling for a new world order.
You can pull those clips up.
In fact, it's in Invisible Empire.
He's calling for a new world order, a global government, and he's on there saying, Russia has attacked us.
Russia pushed him out and then pulled back out of the country.
Does that mean Russia's good?
Absolutely not.
We wrote two articles yesterday and posted a video about clear evidence of Russia in the late 90s staging terror attacks.
But I mean, it's asinine.
You know, they say, oh, I must work for Iran.
And see, this is how it works.
They attack someone who's trying to get you to look at the facts for yourself, to divert and distract attention away from the real culprits.
We have a global private banking cartel that's got its agents and its tentacles into every nation.
It's openly announcing a world government again today.
I'm gonna get into that when we come back from break.
And I'm here simply pointing out what's happening and saying Goldman Sachs is criminal and needs to be indicted.
And you've got government hacks and people tied into the defense establishment who are not defending our republic.
They're doing everything they can to push this New World Order, to push the torture, to push the secret arrest, to push the Patriot Act.
That I told you eight years ago was for the American people because I read the bill.
Now it's in the news.
Yes, Homeland Security, the Patriot Act is for you.
You, the American people, are the main threat and the Tea Parties are supposedly terrorists and there's more news today saying we're terrorists and that internet blogging is a lot like terrorism and sedition and we've got to be shut down.
And you see Republican hacks and Democrat hacks.
They're really revealing themselves right now because they're in so much trouble.
Going after anybody that really points out what's going on here.
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Look at our fruits and what we've done and realize we're under attack more than anybody else from all sides.
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Giant new attacks, massive intensification of the demonization of anybody that criticizes the new world order, the banking dictatorship that's now out in the open.
GOP seeks SEC records on Goldman Sachs.
They want White House.
They want SEC emails.
They want the emails between the Federal Reserve and the White House and the SEC.
That's what Representative Daryl Issa is now doing.
I don't know.
That's illegal.
Telling them not to release the bailout information.
Democratic Party Committee officials or members of Congress or their staff.
We are concerned that politics have unduly influenced the decision and timing of the Commission's controversial enforcement action against Goldman, ISSA writes.
ISSA implied that the timing was a bit too convenient, saying President Obama's push on Wall Street reform neatly coincided with the Commission's announcement of the suit.
Now continuing here, of course it's come out that a million dollars was given to the Obama campaign by Goldman Sachs.
They were his biggest contributor.
And then separately, let me go back here before I get into this new headline of the London Guardian, new global fat tax to rein in banks.
It's called the FAT.
Gordon Brown claims credit for International Monetary Fund plan to impose tough levy on biggest banks' profits and pay.
Well, he does deserve the credit.
He's leading the G20 and he said it Copenhagen.
It doesn't matter if the countries didn't ratify this.
We will have Europe, England, Australia, New Zealand, the United States and Canada levy taxes in the name of banking reform.
You notice they have this international announcement as Obama is trying to pass
I think?
From all financial institutions.
See the headline says biggest banks.
Then you read it says all financial institutions.
That's a check cashing place.
That's credit unions.
That's anybody who does lending.
That's dental offices that, you know, have credit lines that people can sign up for.
That's GMAC.
That's everything.
And so this sets up the international framework, and just like they pushed the Federal Reserve in the banking takeover in the U.S., their beachhead in 1913, as anti-Big Bank, as a way to get the rich guys, it's been released since then that they engineered the whole thing and acted like they were against it.
The big central banks wrote this.
This is their plan for the new constitution of the world signed by the central bank heads that he's been announcing the last few months on television.
But it's being sold as if, ooh, Obama and Gordon Brown and the EU, they're getting tough on the bankers, ooh.
Meanwhile, at Davos and Bilderberg and everywhere else, for years, they have been planning and pushing and even publicly promoting, and they call it the New World Order.
Global government of, for, and by the banks.
What's that Rockefeller quote about a world government for the administrative convenience of central bankers?
That's a quote.
Now listen to this out of the London Guardian.
Tough proposals to cut the world's biggest banks down to size by taxing their profits and pay were outlined by International Monetary Fund tonight, which is a big holding company for the banks, in an attempt to spare taxpayers another massive public bailout of the financial sector.
Oh, they're going to spare you!
Though this is paid in tax money into the IMF and World Bank.
This is going to be matched, and they take the money from the banks and put it in a pool, which then the only select groups get to use.
In measures more stringent than Wall Street and the city had expected, the City of London, the fund called for both an instruction, an introduction of a twin-track approach to the three-year banking crisis that would both force firms to pay for any future support packages and raise new taxes on their profits
Then in my next article here, out of the AP, it gets into the supposed bank re-regulation system here, saying taxes on all financial institutions.
And it's the same thing being pushed by the G20.
Leaked in advance of the funds meeting this weekend, the blueprint emerged as an investment bank, Goldman Sachs, released better than expected first quarter revenues and admitted its bonus and pay pool had reached $5.5 billion in the first three months of 2010.
The anticipated study called for financial stability contribution, which would be paid by all financial institutions, not just banks.
And used to bail out weak and failing institutions.
That's not true.
We're gonna come back to that when we get back.
It is a tax on all institutions, but it's not the weak ones.
We'll explain this.
We're on the march.
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Okay, so I'm reading out of the London Guardian, and what you're seeing is stealth implementation of the crowning capstone of world government.
Private central banks, through the Federal Reserve, the Bank of England, the IMF, the World Bank, the International Bank of Settlements,
All of which shares are owned by the biggest and most powerful banks.
They control them as their front companies.
All secretive.
Won't tell any governments where the money goes.
They control the regulators.
They control the private brokerage firms.
They run this giant criminal operation out in the open.
And then as you read the London Guardian it tells you this is going to help the general public with no evidence.
This is going to take the burden off of taxpayers.
It says International Monetary Fund tonight in an attempt to spare taxpayers and other massive public bailout of the financial sector.
This is the IMF and World Bank who were hated all over the third world.
They're known for coming in with say a billion dollar loan in Nigeria
And even after $50 billion has been paid back over the last 30 years, they still owe another $50 billion.
So you pay over $100 billion back for $1 billion.
That's worse than loan sharking.
And it's made-up money backed up by U.S.
and European taxpayers.
These are the international robbery arms of the banksters.
And so this article talks about Gordon Brown claims credit for International Monetary Fund plan to impose tough levy.
Oh, it's tough on the biggest banks, profits and pay.
Then you read down here at the bottom.
And they've got a link to the leaked G20 document, and it says, the anticipated study called for a Financial Stability Contribution, or FSC, which would be paid by all financial institutions, all, and the article goes on, not just banks, and used to bail out weak and failing firms.
Oh, wait a minute!
We were told that the blank check to the bankers in October of 2008 was to unfreeze mortgages to get the economy going and then the next day, October 4th, on that Saturday, Paulson said, we're not going to spend it on that now and I won't tell you where the money went.
Thank you for the blank check and having it in the law that there's no oversight.
Thank you.
I'm the former head of Goldman Sachs.
I own you.
Ha ha!
And now they're moving to the international level.
And simultaneously, they have every major nation they control and the EU passing laws right now, national laws, to pay into this international level of the banks.
And the banks are signing a global treaty amongst themselves, saying that's the world government.
These are Ponzi scheme operators that bought the world many times over out of nothing.
Because they wore fancy suits, and they paid off the politicians, and they brainwashed the police and military to serve them.
And they fund the communists, they fund the fascists.
Every chance they get, England and the people that run the US, they fund dictatorships.
Worldwide.
And that's what they want here.
And that's what they're setting up here.
A dictatorship of these plutocrats.
Oh, puppets come and go, but the dictatorship of the continuity of government emergency dictatorship system is in place.
And so the sky's the limit.
VAT taxes, carbon taxes, all of it to be paid to the federal government and then paid into the private banks as a tax.
And they say, oh, all financial institutions from check cashing places.
I think?
Pension fund credit unions, and they've announced they're ordering the private and public pension funds, ordering them because they're the regulators.
They can always find something you did wrong.
They're going to audit and shut down these companies and their CEOs if they don't pay all of your money, quote, into failed banks.
They put it in the failed bank, the IMF, World Bank, Federal Reserve, one of those arms, absorbs it, absorbs the money, and then goes back and gets another bailout for the bank they've taken over.
And the regulators can then go in and force the takeover of regional banks, regional credit unions, and they can raise the taxes to whatever they want.
And they want taxes on your fuel, a federal tax, and VAT on every step of the way of manufacturing and production in the country.
It says it would initially be paid at a flat rate, but eventually be tailored to suit institution size and riskiness.
Oh!
It's selectively enforced!
The G20 gets all the central bank heads to sign an agreement with each other that they can selectively do whatever they want.
Boy, isn't that the definition of tyranny?
And no one's talking about this!
No one even gets it!
I'm hearing almost no one!
But maybe Ron Paul, and then he knows he's talking to a dumbed-down general audience on national TV, he doesn't get into any detail.
I mean, we saw a replay of this in February of last year with a stimulus package.
Bailout ripoff number two.
And I've gone over this, it's covered the Obama deception, and that's why it's so important you see it.
It's just five minutes of the two-hour film.
And we show Senator Dodd, same guy on the banking committee right now, pushing this new takeover through.
This is the big one.
This dwarfs all the others.
It isn't the 50 billion he's talking about.
That's just the first payment.
It's the regulatory taxing system run by the private banks, but pushed in the name of getting the rich guy, getting those bankers that have screwed us, getting those bankers that have bent us over a barrel.
Boy, we're going to show them.
Can you believe it?
I mean, that's why they're in charge.
They know how to manipulate.
Just like they said, oh, please don't pass the Federal Reserve Act.
Please don't pass it.
Please don't get us.
Please don't shut us down.
Please don't stop the robber barons.
We're against it.
Meanwhile, they wrote the whole thing, had the meetings, financed it.
Boom!
Gave you the income tax, and they got rid of senators being controlled by the states the same year.
That was the big coup d'etat.
And we're 97 years into this dictatorship.
And it's getting worse and worse and worse.
Because once these things go downhill, more happens in five years than happened in the previous 97.
And the sky's the limit.
So let me try to simply put this.
I mean, not that you don't understand as a general listener, you probably know more than I do, many of you, but when you're talking to your friends and family, this isn't a banking reform in a good way.
This is our federal government lining up to put taxes on all financial institutions and it's selective to where they can
Have the federal regulators that are former JPMorgan and Goldman Sachs alumni and CIA, many of them, it's come out, go in and decide what banks and credit unions and community institutions and state banks
The state bank movement they want to head off, because that's starting to gain some traction.
They can come in and shut down whoever they want.
And I have noticed, by the way, it's the regional banks and the state banks and the local banks that are screaming bloody murder, but they're just saying, this is unfair trade advantage by the big banks that control the regulators.
We don't want this.
We're healthy.
We didn't get invested in derivatives.
We don't want to be part of this.
They're the real banks, not the made-off, Kinley-type, scam systems that run the planet.
And so we better get the word out.
This is the biggest move towards world government we have ever seen.
I've been screaming bloody murder since November when we got the secret Copenhagen documents.
And then when it failed, Gordon Brown and Obama came out and said, okay, it's world government.
We need it.
We need it right now to save the planet and punish the banks.
We need a constitution of the banks and we need to have all this tax money paid into the coffers of the banks.
Oh, that will certainly show them.
Again, tailored to suit institution size and riskiness.
They will decide at an international level who pays taxes.
Now, let's go back to February of last year and the stimulus package.
Oh, we've got to save the car makers.
We've got to give them stimulus money so they can move to Brazil and Russia and Eastern Europe and China, which is what they've used most of the stimulus money for.
You give them 30-something billion to General Motors, they use it to move offshore.
That's the globalist model.
Because GMAC, its banking business is much bigger than its car manufacturing.
It's all funny money.
They could buy the world every day.
If they can get you to buy into it.
You'll kill for a dollar.
You'll kill for an iPad, some of you out there.
Money's what we worship, and it's all made up by these Ponzi scheme gods.
So remember Dodd.
They came out, Obama, Dodd said this is going to punish CEOs, this is going to cap their pay, this is going to cap bonuses, this is going to stop all this.
No discussion about the shareholders.
The CEOs are just front men.
Yeah, some CEO gets a hundred million bucks or something.
That's nothing compared to the tens of billions and trillions the shareholders, the big families, are getting.
So that's a red herring within a red herring.
Wheels within wheels.
Shills within shills.
Scams within scams.
Frauds within frauds.
And we've got clips of Obama in the films, Obama deception over and over again.
We're gonna get tough, and it's wrong that the banks have done this.
Meanwhile, they totally financed him and put him in office, and his whole White House is more banker run than anybody in history.
The maximum puppet.
And then it comes out, people actually read the bill the day before they pass it.
And they went ahead and passed it, and suddenly a few newspapers report, well wait a minute, this says retroactively, after the banking bailout,
Legislation, because it wasn't just a bailout, it was legislation to give them more control.
This allows in perpetuity all the big banks to continue what they've done under the old deal into the future, with no sunset, and it's on the honor system and is selectively enforced.
And the White House said, that's Senator Dodd.
How dare you, Senator Dodd?
And Dodd came out and released emails.
Surprised they didn't blow his airplane up.
And he said, I did what the White House told me to.
Here's your emails.
Remember that?
That's how cynical and sickening this is.
So I'm spending a lot of time on this today because it's here.
And it's being billed in the AP, in the London Guardian, in the Wall Street Journal, in the New York Times.
Oh, the banks don't like it.
Ooh, man, Obama is getting tough on them.
Woo!
He is going to put a big tax on them.
And then you read the legislation.
It's selectively enforced.
The regulators are controlled by the top banks.
It allows them to come in and shut down their competition.
And it mirrors the G20 plan that the U.S.
is the main driver and signatory to, along with England.
And then you find out it's a tax on all financial institutions passed on to you.
And then, they take that money and pay it into a federal slash IMF World Bank kitty, and then the revolving door between the top eight banks or so globally, the revolving door in the IMF and World Bank, all the former bank heads of Europe and the U.S., that revolving door under the IMF and World Bank, they will decide, quote, who to bail out.
That means, oh, here's a trillion bucks, Goldman Sachs, you can keep it.
Think about the magnitude of this, and it's problem, reaction, solution.
They create the original financial crisis.
They get tens of trillions of dollars.
They freeze the economy.
They refuse to lend.
They cut their lending when they promised the bailout was to expand lending.
Then they come in and say, we've got a plan to fix things.
The banks don't like it when they wrote it, but we're going to do it.
And it allows us to selectively tailor it and do whatever we want.
And it's all going to be secretive, just like the past bailouts.
So just sit down and shut up and enjoy it.
But now your money's going to go directly to the international level.
I mean, they're just bypassing even the UN being the world government.
Just directly to the bankers.
And they're also in the news saying, we need this to fund the third world to stop starvation.
And then you actually read the Copenhagen document, that's what the third world pulled out, it right at doubles the taxes, greenhouse gas taxes on them than it does the West.
It's designed to destroy their industrial development, to freeze their development, to keep them as chattel, bankrupt, stone age societies that can just be looted and controlled.
Deep oppressive poverty as a tool of domination.
It's totally sick.
And then the globalists have the nerve to attack those of us that understand what the banks are doing, the in-the-fetters and others, and say, you're a terrorist, you're a racist, or you're an American.
Oh, you don't like the banking oligarchs running your country.
You're bad.
You want to bring America down.
But America is already long gone.
We might be able to get it back, but let's just admit, we've been taken over.
And now they're not going to stop.
They're going to keep hammering and hammering and hammering.
The good news is the criminality is coming out, but the Republican leadership isn't going after Goldman Sachs because they contribute to them as well.
They're not going after the real corruption.
They're just using this to score political points to get back in for themselves.
In fact, here's the next line.
Well, the banks had been bracing for the FSC plan.
They were caught unaware.
Oh, they didn't know!
They haven't been having all these big G20 meetings and the secret meeting a month and a half ago.
That was the headline in Australia.
Heads of 27 biggest banks meet in secret with IMF, World Bank and Australia.
Oh, they were unaware!
Oh, they don't want it!
See, they know they've got about a 1% approval rating.
Literally.
And so, they're like, oh no, we don't like this!
And the public's like, you're gonna get you, we're for it!
Glad Obama's finally doing something!
While banks had been bracing for the FSC plan, they were bracing, bracing for their world government throne, they were so upset by winning the lottery, they were bracing, they were bracing for their vacation with the Swedish bikini team.
It was just so horrible, they were just so afraid of it, they were so afraid of the pot of gold that the leprechaun was giving them, it was terrible.
Well, banks have been bracing for the FSC plan that they wrote, I would add.
They were caught unaware, oh, by the proposal for a financial activities tax.
See, then they go even further.
It's a financial activities tax.
It's a tax on you.
It's a value-added tax.
The way I read, we have the document right here.
It's a tax not just on all the... See, it's always worse than even I'm saying here.
It's everything.
It's cashing your check.
It's electronic transfer.
It's credit card bills.
It's a tax on everything, on every step of the process.
While banks have been bracing for the FSC plan, they were caught unaware by the proposal for a financial activities tax, which will be based on the profits and the pay structure of the firms, and would be on all financial institutions and transactions.
But then next, next they say it's liberal and loving.
See here, here they go.
Anti-poverty campaigners have been pinning their hopes on the IMF endorsing a so-called Robin Hood tax under the small levy would be placed on all financial transactions.
However, the fund said such an approach does not appear to be well suited for specific purposes.
But I've read it, it just allows them to do, it's a blank check.
It says they have dictatorial power, end of story.
Set out by the G20 in its mandate.
The fund said the financial sector had become too big as a result of being taxed too lightly and said this could be addressed by the FAT which is compared to a VAT.
VAT.
See?
The FAT is a tax on every level of any financial transaction and is a control grid surveilling all of that and that's why you're going to have a national ID card
That you've got to swipe, this is in the white papers going back over 10 years, to track everything you do because they're going to make any type of black market, mowing your neighbor's lawn, selling couch for a TV, any type of barter is going to be illegal.
That's why they're passing laws trying to ban and restrict a million dollar fines for garage sales or swap meets.
It's all here.
I just can't even believe it myself.
It's so monstrous.
Enjoy all the new taxes, but see, these will just be like your cell phone taxes.
You notice there's like 10 or 15, depending on your state, different little fees.
Those are just taxes they pass on your cell phone that you just don't notice.
Same thing with this.
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The G20 met in November and December and publicly said they were establishing global governance of, for, and by the banks.
But it was in the back of the newspaper and you had to watch Davos meetings and others.
We got the clips.
We put them in Fall of the Republic.
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We told you the exact plan because we were reading their blueprint.
And now they're going to have a global regime of VAT value added on every financial interaction that everyone makes.
And you read the documents here, it says it's broad and wide open for interpretation by the regulators.
In fact, here's a quote from Gordon Brown out of the London Guardian.
The fund added that cooperation required only broad agreement, see it's wide open, rather than complete uniformity.
They keep repeating that.
They can selectively do whatever they want.
And did not specify rates for the two new taxes.
A Brown aide, that's Gordon Brown, said the report is radical and in line with what they had argued for at the G20 in November.
When Brown
Surprised his Treasury team by promoting the idea of international levies, or international taxes.
It is another big judgment call that Gordon Brown got right and David Cameron got wrong.
That's who he's running against for Prime Minister right now, the aid said.
Alistair Darling, the Chancellor, welcomed the report.
Oh yes, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, of course, the banker.
The recognition that banks should make a contribution to society is in which they operate is right.
Make a contribution?
They're all run by these people.
The banks are the ones that are ramming this through and lobbying for it.
This is world government.
A tax and regulatory power over all of their smaller competition.
And it goes on, Max Lawson, policy advisor at Oxfam said, the IMF has been given the green light to tax banks.
To be worthy of Robinhood, it must raise hundreds of billions each year and be directly linked to fighting poverty at home and abroad and tackling climate change.
There you go.
Helping the poor and fighting climate change.
I mean, shutting down industrial development as the parasite economy takes over the real economy.
I mean, do you realize how huge this is?
I've got to get Watson, or Steve Watson, or Kurt Nimmo to write an article about this based on the analysis I just laid out in the last 30 minutes.
Because I just broke it all down for you, because this is what they say they're doing in their internal documents.
And then publicly they say it's about helping the poor, and then you get the documents and it says it's meant to shut down industrial society in the West, in the first world, in Japan, and in the third and developing world.
End of story.
Period.
And anybody who criticizes them is a racist, and is a hate monger, and is a terrorist.
And that's coming up when we start the next hour.
Separately, we have another article here, Climate Change Scammers to Go Global, and it talks about how they're being funded by the big banks and they're running around saying everyone must pass this, everyone must do this to save the earth from rising sea levels, or we're basically all going to drown.
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He's repeating false flag information.
That's important because he's got 10 million listeners and now it makes it kosher for other talk show hosts to talk about this, not just me alone.
And if we get enough information out about how they're getting ready to stage terror attacks, game over.
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And so the fact that this is starting to come out on more and more, I mean Limbaugh was talking about it last week, is big trouble for the New World odor.
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Hopefully the listeners of this radio show will make a big noise about the fact that they're openly announcing the Bank of the World that you will pay your taxes on all financial transactions as a value-added tax on every step of a financial transaction to the private banks.
This is being billed as a way to counter the banks.
When they're actually pushing it through.
They will use this to go after all their competition.
This is very serious and Gordon Brown calls this world government.
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Again, the top news is new global FAT or VAT tax to rein in banks.
What a deceptive London Guardian headline.
And right in line with that, they've got every major nation, like the United States, passing their own regulatory reform bill with the same pitch.
Oh, this is going to get the bankers.
This is going to punish them.
This is going to make them pay for the bailouts instead of the citizens.
Isn't that great?
When it's a tax on all their competition paid to the megabanks that are engineering the formation of world government.
I can't say it any simpler.
And hardly anyone gets it or understands it.
We have got to stop it.
We have got to get the word out about this now and say no.
And Senator Dodd's bill
That is the national version of this international agreement that this plugs into absolutely must be stopped now.
Not next week, not next year.
We have got to call Congress and say we understand this is another scam.
But don't look for the Republican leadership, Ron Paul's against it, but don't look for the Republican leadership to speak out against this.
Oh, they're saying they're against it playing politics because it goes too far against the banks.
Well, yeah, it goes too far giving the mega banks dictatorial power.
But some Republicans are supporting this because they're being funded by Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, Citibank, Bank of America, Wells Fargo, Warren Buffett.
This must be stopped now.
This must be stopped now.
This is it.
This is much bigger than the 28 trillion they stole.
That was just them capitalizing and getting enough money to shut off the money to Main Street so they could consolidate power.
As bad as that was, that was only a forte, an hors d'oeuvre, a glass of wine before the 10-course meal.
And the meal is us.
We are the enemy.
We are the target.
We are the people they are going after.
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They're actually doing it.
We have the G20 document that's been released by the London Guardian.
We have the article in the AP and the Guardian.
They are packaging it and pushing it as if it's a way to get back at the big banks, to make them pay their own way, to make them pay taxes.
When the big mega-central banks wrote this, and when you read it, it allows them to levy taxes, value-added, on all financial transactions.
Not just banks, on your check, on what you cash, on your stocks, on your bonds, on credit unions.
The big banks wrote this, but just like in 1913, they were able to take over our issuance of currency and credit from the Congress, which is illegal and unconstitutional.
They pushed that through as an anti-banking bill to punish the bankers, the robber barons.
And here's Gordon Brown in November, in December, and in January.
It's all in the article saying this is global government, this is world government, this will punish the banks when the banks wrote this.
That's how they do it.
They use deception.
And in England, and in Europe, and in the United States, they are trying to pass, quote, banking reform bills that they admit in these articles and in the document, plug into the international agreement.
The new bank of the world.
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We're going to be covering that more later.
Meanwhile, GOP seeks SEC records on Goldman Sachs between them and the White House.
So the plot is thickening on that front.
Now, I want to get into the latest developments dealing with the Tea Parties.
It's very elementary.
What's happening is,
The system is coming out and saying if you criticize the private banks, if you criticize the private Federal Reserve, if you criticize the banker bailouts, if you criticize that they won't tell Congress where trillions of dollars went, if you do that, you're basically a terrorist.
And I don't have to tell you this is going on.
Anybody who listens to radio, anybody that reads the newspaper, anybody who
Spends any time watching the news knows this is everywhere.
I mean, I hardly watch any television every time I turn it on when I'm on the treadmill or late at night or the YouTube videos I've sent by listeners.
It's just 24-7 saying that all the tea parties are racist.
The American people are evil.
What does racism have to do?
With not wanting to pay trillions to foreign banks.
What does racism have to do with not wanting the government to take over healthcare and cut benefits out of the American people when the insurance companies actually wrote the scam?
You've heard Ron Paul here on the show document that.
It's not just me saying that.
You heard Lord Monckton last week agree.
Anybody who's read the bill, and I have, that's what it does.
These are just three video clips and audio clips from just the last two days.
Here's one article.
CFR journalist calls Tea Party talk seditious, illegal.
And that's Joe Klein, Council on Foreign Relations member.
If you read the public bi-monthly book, they put a book out on newsstands, not a newspaper, not a magazine, it's a book, it's a paperback book, calling for world government and telling you how great it is.
He's saying it is seditious to criticize the government.
Then we've got a clip of Michael Savage.
A new clip, not the last two clips where he said Obama will blow up a Capitol building or carry out a Reichstag attack to set up martial law, which I agree.
Now he's talking about the Tea Parties where the Democrats have been caught dressing up like Nazis with swastika signs.
They've now been caught.
We told you this a month ago.
It's been mainstream news since last Monday for over a week and a half.
They have been caught and they did what they promised.
They went out to Tea Parties from New Mexico to Texas to Oregon to New York City to D.C.
in Nazi outfits with swastikas.
We've shown you those photos and videos.
The black congressional caucus has been caught going out trying to start fights.
No one's calling them in word.
No one's spitting on them.
This is another form of false flag, but they're not going to stop there.
They are going to blow up some federal buildings.
They're going to engage in terror attacks, guaranteed, it's the only card they've got, to blame it on us, to try to shut down our political speech.
Because we are telling the truth.
We are constitutionalists.
We're standing up for the law of the land.
And there's nothing these people can do to shut us up, but stage events and blame them on us.
It is very, very elementary and simple.
And coming up in about 20 minutes, I'm going to play
An excellent eight-minute analysis, uh, when false flags don't fly by James Corbett.
Very powerful.
I mean, this is, this is five stars.
This is, I give this guy a 99, okay?
And I don't think I'd ever give myself even a 99.
Uh, you know, if you're grading a speech.
I don't know, I guess that was about a hundred, uh, that I did in front of the Bilderberg group that time, uh, in, um...
In Canada, bullhorning the Bilderberg.
But it's as good as it gets.
Very powerful, very focused.
This is more of what we need to see.
So that's coming up.
Very effective.
Let's go ahead and play this short clip of CFR journalist calls Tea Party talk seditious on Slimeball with Chris Slimenson.
Here it is.
We just watched Sarah Palin and she said, un-American.
Now she said it was just his policies, not him.
But those words are license words.
They're permission words.
I did a little bit of research just before the show.
It's on this little napkin here.
I looked up the definition of sedition.
Which is, conduct or language inciting rebellion against the authority of the state.
And a lot of these statements, especially the ones coming from people like Glenn Beck, and to a certain extent Sarah Palin, were right up close to being seditious.
And Joe's right, and I'll name another person.
Name is Baird, who uses this phrase constantly, talks about the Obama administration as a regime.
Okay.
And they go on and on, basically saying we're terrorists.
So, if you say, I don't want tyranny, gun control's tyranny, open borders is tyranny, federalization of local police is tyranny, I mean, by every yardstick, they've had big universities do an analysis and find the U.S.
is the number six police state in the world.
I mean, is Mexico a tyranny?
Is North Korea a tyranny?
They're ahead of us.
North Korea's number one.
We're number six, folks, and I don't want to move up towards number one.
This is not a laurel or a prize.
It's kind of like they say in that movie, Talladega Nights, if you're not first, you're last.
Or what's the corny thing they say in that movie?
You're not first, you're last?
Yeah.
Well, no, this is something where we want to be last.
We don't want to be first for this.
And it's both parties.
I mean, Republicans, who are mainline Republicans, they should love Obama.
Continuing wars, continuing secret arrests, continuing torture, hiring nothing but lobbyists, continuing all of this corruption, continuing all of Bush's executive orders, continuing Bush's cybersecurity takeover of the Internet.
There is no difference with Obama on real issues.
Oh, Bush was supposedly anti-abortion, kind of halfway.
He was for the assault weapons ban.
So there they are saying sedition.
Now this is what Michael Savage, again I rarely play other talk show hosts, but when Rush Limbaugh says Obama may stage events and Michael Savage is saying it every week now, I mean this is from Monday, we've got to give credit where credit's due because these guys reach tens of millions of people and I don't like being alone.
I don't want to be the leader.
I don't want to be the one guy who's right.
I don't want to be the one person who's got the courage to say this, okay?
Believe me.
I like to walk point, but I'd like to rotate with other people.
I'd like there to be more targets out there.
I don't like to be the only person telling the truth here.
And so, here is Michael Savage talking about this on Monday.
Here it is.
They want you to react.
Don't you understand what Obama's doing with his little men?
You can turn it off now.
His little men on the left are trying to provoke you into a violent act so they can declare you the illegitimate ones.
Don't take the bait.
They want the Tea Party to explode.
They have probably sent the Jean Provocateurs in there with guns.
I can guarantee you that this government is going to do something along those lines, whether it's sooner or later, it's going to happen.
And I'll make another prediction on this show right now, because it doesn't take a genius to know what this illegitimate band of gangsters is going to do next.
I'll make it very clear for you.
This illegitimate group of gangsters is not only going to cause a violent
Action somewhere in America that is not conducted by the Tea Parties, but by an agent provocateur that they sent into the crowds, along the lines of what the left has done from the beginning of the left, okay?
But the October surprise that they have in mind for this world is not to be imagined, because they know they're going to lose.
If they ever played it fair and square, A, number one, they wouldn't be in power today.
That's to start with.
If they ever played it fair and square, the illegal aliens never would have been... And he goes on to say they're going to stage a Reichstag event.
Now, the whole video is up on Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.
Why is this important?
Well, as soon as the Republicans get back in, they're going to start blowing stuff up.
Okay?
I mean, this is what governments do now.
And we've got a big, dirty, corrupt government who's desperate and who has, what, a 10% approval rating for Congress now?
A 9% for Nancy Pelosi?
Even lower than Dick Cheney?
When governments get in trouble and they're corrupt, they start staging terror.
We're going to cover the history of that coming up in about 12 minutes.
But here's another clip.
And we'll play this when we come back from break.
Washington Post writer, internet journalism is sort of like terrorism.
And we're not even looking for these clips.
They're just everywhere.
So they're now equating criticizing the government and internet journalism with terror.
Because the alternative media has now surpassed the mainstream media in 2010.
That's mainline numbers.
The studies also show people vastly trust the alternative media more than they trust the mainstream media, which is actually kind of scary.
There's a lot of BS out in the alternative media too.
I mean, we try to get it right and we get it wrong sometimes.
A lot of people out there just making stuff up.
But it doesn't matter.
People know the mainstream media is organized and deceptive and they trust the alternative media a lot more.
And so they have this whole discussion about terrorism and not knowing how to target the alternative media.
So they're really getting desperate because the mainstream media is dying, the government's in deep trouble falling apart, they're circling the wagons together and saying they want to shut down freedom on the web and have a rigged game because they're losing because they've been discredited because they've been caught lying millions of times.
I mean literally, just constant lying.
Hundreds of millions of parrots up on a tree squawking lies.
We'll be back with that and a lot more.
And they've had another fake raid out in California to create that illusion that there are all these terrorists.
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So, on every major news program,
They have pundits out there saying that criticizing the takeover of America is seditious, is illegal, borders on terrorism.
You've got Clinton saying, look, if you don't stop criticizing the government, it's going to cause someone to stage a terror attack.
And gee, I hope that doesn't have to happen so we can then silence you.
I mean, it's a very thinly veiled threat.
Washington Post columnist who appeared on CBS Faced the Nation on Sunday described he
Partiers is potential violent and decried internet journalism as sort of like terrorism.
It's Pulitzer Prize winning Kathleen Parker.
is a commentator with the show you can watch the whole eight-minute club upon prison planet dot com in our article washington post writer internet journalism sort of like terrorism is gonna play a short clip of this lesson opinion that comes uh... from various places like during uh... lincoln's day every newspaper had an editorial point of view but this person said the difference was in those days you knew which paper it was coming from right now you don't know where some of this is coming from and and that is
The added factor to the volatility of this stuff.
Yeah, it's interesting.
People will say anything when they have the cloak of anonymity.
It's sort of like terrorism.
You know, we don't know where to aim our bombs.
We can't go after a country because there are
You know, there's no one place to focus on.
And it's the same thing with the Internet.
You can't really, you don't know who to go after.
And you and I, I'm sure, you share some of the wonderful experiences I've had of being attacked and threatened and whatnot.
Anybody criticizing the government or who is angry, you don't have a real reason to be angry or upset.
So there you have it.
You're just not well-grounded.
You've got a mental problem.
And you're like a terrorist.
You know, these bloggers online are basically kind of like terrorists.
But the host of the show, Bob Schaeffer, you can hear part of the clip, but before that he was talking about Lincoln.
You know, we had free speech under Lincoln.
No, he arrested hundreds of newspaper editors in the North who were against the war.
He even arrested a member of Congress.
So I guess what he's saying is under Lincoln we knew where they were.
That's kind of a veiled threat for those that know history.
And they keep modeling Obama like he's the new Lincoln.
They were saying this when he was running for office, that the nation may fall apart, but he'll hold it together and he's going to deal with the states.
They knew the states were going to rebel against all this unconstitutional activity.
And so they've been writing books about him as if he's the second coming of Lincoln.
They've been preparing everyone that when Obama has to crack down on the terrorists, on the states' rights people, on the people that don't like the foreign banks taking over, that are angry at Wall Street, that he's going to be just like Lincoln.
He is going to come in there and he is going to put his foot down in a big, big way and he is going to save the republic and we'll have big marble statues to him.
Thank God we've got Barack H. Obama.
Meanwhile, he always talks about reconciliation, everybody be friendly, come on, don't have bad rhetoric, Republicans, you know, Conservatives, Libertarians, shut up.
Meanwhile, all his surrogates are out on TV and in the newspapers, and Bill Clinton's out there saying, we're gonna cause terrorism, those of us that don't like them and are criticizing them.
We don't have a right as Americans to criticize what they're doing.
We're gonna cause violence.
We're racist.
Because they don't want Hispanics and black people who are angry about higher taxes and less jobs and unemployment and government corruption and the government tripling under Bush and even growing faster under Obama.
People are mad.
That's why the polls show over 40% of the Tea Partiers are Democrats or Independents.
Oh, they're scared of that, the people getting together, getting outside the left-right paradigm.
Coming together to save the country.
So they're saying racism!
It's racism!
It's hate!
It's evil!
It's the Ku Klux Klan!
It's bad!
It's terrorism!
It's... And then meanwhile, they've had a bust in California.
When you read deeper into the AP and other articles,
There's no bombs, no evidence of bombs.
They went and busted some white supremacist gangs that the prisons basically create.
These are either a Hispanic gang, black gang, Asian gang, or white gang, or you don't live.
And they segregate them in the prisons and jails like this in California.
So they busted some white supremacist gangs that are saying they think it may lead to bombs.
They think they may have bombs, and they try to tie it into the Tea Party.
I mean, what does gang violence in the prisons have to do with the Tea Party?
But again, it's just like the Hatari militia.
They didn't do anything.
They didn't have any weapons.
The Feds have now put out their affidavit.
They've now been in court.
Their prime evidence is Mr. Stone, the head of the Hatari, saying, man, the government's getting out of control and waging war on us.
We might have to fight back against them.
I mean, that sounds like something George Washington would say.
So now you don't even have that free speech.
And they go and arrest you.
But they're engaging in all these busts, so people are kind of halfway paying attention to the newspaper and TV and radio here.
Oh, there's militias.
Oh, there's white supremacists.
So the media can then tie that in to anybody criticizing the government ahead of the government false flag event.
We'll cover false flags when we come back.
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Okay, when false flags don't fly
And this is James Corbett of the Corbett Report, just doing a fabulous job, so I wanted to air this here.
It's a good eight-minute boil-down of what governments do and how they operate, and a call to action to warn everyone that the groups that control our government, the illegitimate criminals, are clearly prepping the population for sustained, staged terror.
Here it is.
Those who have studied history know that nothing invigorates and empowers an authoritarian regime more than a spectacular act of violence.
Some sudden and senseless loss of life that allows the autocrat to stand on the smoking rubble and identify himself as the hero.
It's at moments like this that the public, still in shock from the horror of the tragedy that has just unfolded before them, can be led into the most ruthless despotism.
Despotism that now bears the mantle of security.
Acts of terror and violence never benefit the average man or woman.
They only ever benefit those in positions of power.
This is why Nero fiddled while Rome burned.
It gave him a chance to throw out the Christians to the lions and rebuild the capital of the Roman Empire in his own image.
This is why Hearst and the warmongers of the emerging American Empire were delighted by the destruction of the USS Maine in Havana Harbor in 1898.
It gave them the excuse they needed to rouse the public into supporting the Spanish-American War.
This is why Israel attacked the USS Liberty in 1967 during the Six-Day War, strafing and torpedoing it relentlessly for hours in a vain attempt to send it to the bottom.
The Israelis believed that the loss of the Liberty could be blamed on Egypt and draw the Americans into war.
This is why there are hundreds of documented examples of government staging attacks in order to blame them on their political enemies.
In every civilization, in every culture, in every historical period, authoritarians have known that spectacular acts of violence help to further consolidate their own power and control.
And sadly, throughout history, there have been all too many willing to allow attacks to occur, to pretend that attacks have occurred, or even to attack their own population in order to further their political agenda.
To think that such staged provocations and false flag attacks no longer occur would be as unrealistic as believing that human nature itself has changed.
That powerful people no longer seek to increase their power.
That influence is never used for deceit or manipulation.
That lies are no longer told to satisfy greed or slake the thirst for control.
It is to believe that our society is immune from those things that we have seen in every other society, in every other era.
In short, it's a dangerous delusion.
The people are once again learning the power of this delusion.
They are learning the extent to which they have been lied to.
They are once again studying their history.
The Russians are learning how the FSB was caught planting bombs in Moscow in 1999 during a terror scare that swept Putin into power and stirred the public into supporting the Second Chechen War.
They are learning how their autocratic ex-president came to power campaigning on the graves of those his old FSB cronies had killed.
The Israelis are learning how Mossad has been caught time and again posing as the very Muslim terrorists they claim to be opposing.
They're learning how Israel uses the specter of terror to further extend their blank check drawn on American funds to expand their police state at home and maintain their hardline stance.
The world's sixth largest nuclear superpower supposedly threatened by the possibility that one of their neighbors may one day obtain a single nuclear weapon.
The British are learning how their SAS officers were caught dressing up as Arabs in Iraq, driving around with trucks full of munitions, shooting at police to stir up ethnic tensions, and ensure that permanent bases could be built in the region.
They're learning how Haruna Swat, the supposed mastermind behind the 7-7 bombings, was working for British intelligence.
They're learning how British military intelligence took part in IRA bombings.
The Indians are learning how the Mumbai attack was helped by a US agent who is cooperating with investigators so that he won't face questioning by foreign authorities.
The Canadians are learning how their own provincial police dressed up as protesters in 2007 and threatened violence against other police in order to force a crackdown on peaceful protests.
And the Americans.
The Americans are learning that there were multiple bombs found, dismantled, and taken out of the Alfred P. Murrah building on April 19, 1995.
They are learning that Timothy McVeigh had written a letter to his sister in which he claimed to be in the Special Forces for the U.S.
Army.
They are learning the bombing was being directed by FBI informants, just as the 1993 World Trade Center bombing was.
They are learning about 9-11 and the Gulf of Tonkin and Operation Northwoods and their own army counterinsurgency manuals that teach officers how to commit false flag attacks to blame on their enemies.
In short, the people are learning the truth.
And now, we see the same build-up to a false flag event taking place that we saw in 1995.
At that time, the U.S.
had a corporate media desperate to fling mud at anyone concerned by the actions of their government, and it had a government that was desperately unpopular.
Today, we see the exact same factors at play.
If anything, the situation today is worse than it was in the run-up to the Oklahoma City bombing, with media consolidation meaning that groups of concerned citizens like the Oath Keepers are being attacked by the controlled minions on both the left and the right.
And now, it is not just the militia that is being demonized by the establishment.
It is veterans and gun owners, third-party supporters and libertarians, anti-war protesters and human rights campaigners, people who are upset with a government giving trillions to the banks that have engineered our current financial crisis.
In short, everyone is now a potential terrorist according to the governmental and media agencies that deign to limit our range of acceptable opinion and control dissent.
Even the word terrorist means something more than it did back in 1995.
Now, after the false flag attack of 2001 allowed the passage of the Patriot Act, after the boogeyman of Al-Syedah gave the NSA the opportunity to announce that they were collecting everyone's emails and everyone's telephone calls, after the former White House press secretary came out and admitted that the Bush administration had made up terror threats in order to scare the people into supporting the government, now we know what the real definition of terrorism is.
It is governments scaring their own populations into line.
But there is something else that's different now from what it was in 1995.
The people are learning something else about terrorism.
They are not terrorists for speaking out against their government.
They are not terrorists for wanting the government to stop selling their children into servitude to paid bankers their bonuses.
They are not terrorists for pointing out that the FBI and the CIA and Mossad and MI6 are behind every major international terrorist event.
The people are not terrorists because they do not want to see more death.
They do not want more destruction.
The spilling of the blood of their fellow citizens is not in their interests.
Death and destruction only ever serve the governmental and financial and industrial interests who always grow in power and wealth in the wake of every tragedy.
Time and again, the people pay with their lives, and the governments and the banks and the war machine only grows and prospers.
The people do not want terrorism because it does not benefit them.
It only benefits the existing power structure.
And this time, if there is another staged event to blame on the government's enemy of the day, the people will know who to blame.
For the Corbett Report in Western Japan, I am James Corbett.
Okay, ladies and gentlemen, there is the Corbett Report.
Excellent job.
You can go see the video up at Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.
The article that has the text of what you just heard is titled, When False Flags Don't Fly.
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One, death panels were paraded as a solution openly.
And B, our sacred constitution shredding is destroying our First Amendment.
At the same time, here yesterday at the Travis County Commissioner's Court Session, the commissioners received a report on the necessity for progress on so-called President Barack Obama, Baxter Tuge, Barry Citaro's health scare scam.
Their advisors
Who run the hospitals here actually admitted that one main problem for all of us to get our proper share of our ever so limited resources, the problem was that the expensive care needed for only a few sick old individuals was eating up our precious resources for the rest of us.
And when I was allowed to speak, I pointed out that that talk about cutting off the care for those two expensive old individuals who were too sick, too old, that means death panels.
And regardless, the commissioners then voted 5-0 in favor, in effect, of death penalties.
And by the way, I'm still banned from 75% of the Austin City Council.
That's right, Ronnie, I appreciate your call.
You know, Tom Daschle, who wrote the original bill, wrote a book about death panels and how they're good.
Europe has them, England has them.
They've said that they're going to reduce care to the old people and people who have chronic illnesses.
That's collectivism.
They take your wealth, even if you can buy your own health care, and they say how much health care you can get.
They tax your health care, they tax your insurance, they make you buy insurance, and then they lower your standard of care.
And in a collectivist system, they then play everyone off against each other.
This is what is done.
They then say, oh, that person's smoking, that person's drinking, that person's eating red meat, and we say that's bad, and so they're going to have to pay more taxes, or we're just going to deny them health care.
And yes, the bioethicist boards that have been set up in the last 20 plus years, and I've had Wall Street Journal writers on, you name it, about it,
In many cases where old people or people that are paralyzed but can still talk, and we've covered these cases on air, when the state gets custody of them, they turn their water, they turn their food off, they kill them.
And this is going on all over the country.
It's going on all over Europe.
And when we say we don't want it, they say, you're crazy, it doesn't exist.
That's dangerous rhetoric.
Don't say they're death panels or you may blow up a building.
You're not allowed in America to actually read what we're really doing.
But again, the insurance companies wrote the legislation where they force you to buy their healthcare, and then the government lets them cut the quality of the care.
And doesn't let doctors engage in medicine, the HMOs and others get to say what type of healthcare you get.
So instead of a knee surgery you need, you get a shot of cortisone.
A $50 shot instead of a $2,000 surgery.
And that's what they're pushing for.
Good points, Ronnie.
Julio in Illinois, you're on the air.
Alex Jones, excited for the 3 o'clock premiere.
It's been about a year since I watched the Totoro Deception, and man, your films have been powerful.
You inspired me to do much and to continue this peaceful fight for the Infowars.
I want to thank you, sir, and all the Infowars crew for what they've done.
Well, thank you so much.
Anytime.
Secondly, you said this on your Sunday show about two weeks ago, talking about behavior deception television, somewhat of an Orwellian state.
Coincidentally enough, I was watching CNN on Sunday morning, two weeks ago, Reliable Sources, talking about the exact same thing, talking about PepsiCo getting sponsorship in some 30 Rock show.
But also, it's not really a shock that
We're good to go.
You know, these false flight nuclear attacks.
Satoru's talking about terrorists are more dangerous with a nuclear weapon than we are.
I mean, what's going to happen next?
We see, you know, Wolf Blitzer bowing down to Bill Clinton.
What do you think is going to happen next?
Well, I'll tell you, Julio, what's going to happen next.
They're going to stage shootings and bombings and blame it on gun owners, conservatives, people that don't want to go under this banking dictatorship they're setting up right now.
And they may set off a nuke and blame it on Iran.
I mean, every guest we've been talking to, you heard Dr. Bob Bowman, former head of Air Force Star Wars program.
You know, saying he agrees that's the number one threat.
Tarpley, who's really got a good crystal ball, agrees.
Many others.
Michael Savage agrees.
Rush Limbaugh's now coming out.
I mean, this is what they're going to do.
They know what they've done is so illegal and so bad, and they're clearly saying, you guys are going to cause terror.
Get ready for it.
It's going to be your fault.
Who benefits from this?
Who has the motive?
Who's done it in the past?
I mean, this is very clear what they're doing.
They're framing us right now.
Let's talk to James in Illinois.
James, you're on the air.
Hello?
Yes.
Well, I'm a first-time caller, and I just picked you up about three months ago.
I did not know that anybody thought like I did.
Well, I'd say about 30% of the population conservatively thinks like you do.
The news just is there to make you think you're alone.
Boost that up some.
Okay, I'm living in the armpit of society.
I'm living in a hole-in-the-road, uh, area.
Okay?
Stuck in the 1940s and 50s.
Well, okay.
James, get your point together.
I'm gonna come back to you briefly on the other side, okay?
We're gonna go to break.
Don't hang up.
We'll come back to you.
Then Joe, Scott, and others.
And then we've got, uh, Catherine Austin Fitz coming on to join us.
Then we've got former head of the FBI in Southern California in the L.A.
area.
Ted Gunderson joining us.
It's been a long time since he's been on.
He'll be joining us from his hospital bed via cell phone.
This should be interesting.
We'll be right back.
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Okay, let's go back to James in Illinois.
What's your point about living in an armpit?
Go ahead.
Oh, man.
I'm a volunteer fireman at 37 years.
Volunteer fireman.
I have seen a lot of stuff, but I tell you what, the stuff that's going down now scares the living crap out of me.
Okay, I'm talking about anhydrous, uh, methamphetamine making it out of anhydrous ammonia and pseudophed and, uh, battery acid and whatever.
Salt.
Okay.
So you're seeing a lot of, you're seeing a lot of drugs in your area?
I'm seeing a lot of drugs in my area.
Okay, I'm also seeing, uh, a lot of negative things.
Okay, you was, uh,
I'm a first-time listener.
Literature.
Whatever.
Okay, James.
James, I appreciate your call.
Just visit InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com and it's good to have you on board.
Joe in Maryland.
Joe, you're on the air.
Hey, Alex.
Thank you for taking my call.
You know, I didn't hear about you either until a few months ago.
This guy in front of me had a bumper sticker on his pickup truck that said 9-11 wasn't an inside job.
Learn the truth at InfoWars.com, PrisonPlanet.com and that's how I found out about you.
So I ended up being a member of We Are Change recently down here in Maryland.
We went to go hear Ralph Nader talk and I asked him a question about the Federal Reserve and gave him a copy of Fall of the Republic.
So I was calling to let you know I gave Ralph Nader a copy of Fall of the Republic.
Awesome!
What do you think the odds are that we're going to enter hyperinflation?
We've had a lot of different economists that I really respect on, and they debate it, whether the elite is going to continue depressing the economy, or whether they may do something new, depressing the economy while having inflation, or even hyperinflation.
So I guess it would be hyper-stag inflation, or hyper-depression.
But they're starting to talk about raising interest rates, and that could start an increase
Yeah.
The globalists have a combination of depression in the real economy, but inflation or devaluation of the dollar.
So they're trying to balance the two together.
But that's like balancing, you know, cancer with a hole in the head.
You know, a gunshot wound to the head.
I mean, both are bad.
Both add on to each other.
And that's because we live in a rigged economy.
Anything else?
That was it.
Thank you for taking my call.
I appreciate your call from Maryland.
Scott in California, you're on the air.
Mr. Jones, it is a privilege to talk to you.
Hello?
Go ahead.
Yes, you're on the air.
Go ahead.
Can you hear me?
Yes, I can.
I can hear you just fine.
I listen to you on 1340K1Y in Santa Cruz, and you are a humble man, sir.
I appreciate you that you do not use this platform to prop up your ego, as so many other people who would get pulled in by our society of performers.
You, sir, are a modern-day Nate Russell, although I'm
I'm pretty sure you probably don't look as good in a dress, and I used to listen to her in our car.
I'll tell you what, coming up at the 8 after, we've got our guest joining us.
We're going to come back, have you finish up with your point, Scott, and then we're going to go to Mark and a few others, and then we've got Katherine Austin-Fitz joining us.
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All right, we've reached the halfway point in this worldwide broadcast.
The global government has announced, officially, what we told you four months ago they were setting up.
We have a very clear view of the next step in the global banking dictatorship.
And we've got Katherine Austin Fitz, an expert on this, joining us in the next segment.
But right now, I wanted to go back to Scott in California.
I was just saying that I had parents that listened to Mae Brussel and made me listen to her as well.
And taught me how to think, not what to think.
So I want to thank you for carrying the baton of truth.
I don't
You're racist, you're terrorist, you're any other kind of S. Just keep your head.
Don't give in to the anger that you're going to feel, because they're only going to turn that anger and fear into abuse.
Well, I agree, but even more, you need to rebuke them as worse than racist, because it's one thing to be an ignorant racist, it's another to consciously try to turn groups against each other in a cold-blooded way.
I mean, that is horrible.
When I was talking to a friend about this and the New World Order, and I keep telling him, you know, you don't realize what they are doing to you and how they're controlling the way you think.
But I keep using this ambiguous verb.
So I was thinking, we need to have the leaders of the New World Order, maybe like when we went into... Baseball cards!
Yeah, the baseball cards, or playing cards, and have these guys.
On record, some sort of tangible item that you can hand people, and if we can ever get these people arrested, put them behind bars, you know, you put a big stamp on it, and that way this can get passed around.
I don't know if anybody in your team would be willing to... Well, the problem is there's so many globalists, you'd have to make about 20 decks of cards, and people have done something similar.
I've thought about it.
We could have the Bankster deck.
The political criminal deck, the police state deck, the New World Order occult deck, and it's a great idea and a lot of people thought of it.
It's just the time and energy that would go into it.
I can make a film that gets seen by 20 million people online and so all my time goes into the films and radio because per capita
They're the best bang for the buck, and the time and the energy.
But it's a great idea, and we've actually promoted some of the folks out there that do have these card decks.
Some of the card decks I agree with, some really I don't think have the power structure right.
But I know that's a great idea, but somebody needs to come out with a whole line of these cards, but also have them very inexpensive.
Some people that have made them at such limited runs, they want to get their money back so they're expensive.
They need to be super cheap, like two, three bucks a deck, so people can buy these decks en masse and give them to everybody they know.
But we're thinking about making a deck.
I've been wanting to do it for more than a decade.
Anything else there, Scott?
A couple of questions, sir.
Are you planning on committing suicide?
Well, no.
I will never kill myself, and if the government says I did, it's a lie.
Well, thank you for putting your life on the line and helping to awaken the human consciousness.
The love of money is the root of all evil.
How long before we as a species start valuing people for what they bring to the table of ideas instead of how many ones and zeros that can be transferred between accounts in a nanosecond?
Alright, I appreciate your call.
I appreciate your call.
I'll answer that briefly when we come back.
And we're going to Catherine Austin Fitz.
We'll give you her website.
One of the most informed guests we interview, and I really am thankful for her time.
We'll be talking to her when we come back out of this quick break, and we'll also give you her website as well.
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Okay, I had a caller in California saying that he wanted my comments on money being the root of all evil.
And that's a cliche that's used, and there's some truth to it, but it's more money-changing, fraudulent money dealings, fractional reserve banking.
I mean, what did Jesus Christ do?
He went into the temple, and the scribes and Pharisees made you buy your sacrifice of a dove or a calf, whatever it was you were buying for the sacrifice.
I don't know.
And that's what he went in and overturned.
The fact that they were turning it into a business, people in there, you know, carrying out their sacrifice.
People say, well, why sacrifice something for your sins?
You're saying, I'm giving something up.
I'm giving some valuable food up that I could sell or I could eat.
You know, I'm saying, you know, to God, this is the main focus.
You know, I'm giving something up for this.
You're most important.
You are my idol.
No other idols before you.
And I look at it as a hierarchy of needs.
If somebody can make a billion dollars without hurting someone and doing good in the process, that's wonderful.
But money can't be the top of your pyramid.
It's a hierarchy of needs.
I mean, my hierarchy of needs is I love my family, I love my children.
I mean, I woke up last night in the middle of the night and was just like almost having a vision of just a beautiful ocean and a sunset and how beautiful that is and how I just want to go live by the seashore and, you know, hang out with my family and oil paint.
I mean, don't we all wish we could do that?
And just this pull to quit, this ever-increasing drive to stop doing what I'm doing.
The frustration that I have to be here every day fighting these people because we have no future if we don't fight them.
And my anger at them.
This isn't some ego trip.
It's not fun out here fighting the New World Order.
It is survival.
But things get twisted.
The system then says, give the government all your money.
We're going to help the poor.
Don't love money.
But really, they're using that, your well-meaning guilt, to get your money, to get control of your life, so they can make you dependent.
I believe it's good for people to be wealthy.
I like it when people are doing well.
I like seeing healthy, happy people with nice houses and swimming pools and plenty of food.
I know that also tends to bring decadence.
But it's good to be able to have a car that doesn't break down.
It's good to be able to travel.
It's good to be able to pay for medicine for your family.
But would you kill somebody for an iPad?
Would you kill somebody for 500 bucks on their wallet?
Would you kill somebody for a billion bucks?
Would you plant WMDs in Iraq?
Would you stage a 9-11?
And so...
I don't believe money, or even the love of money, is the root of all evil.
Because, you know, if you like being successful and comfortable and secure, I guess you could call that love, but is that what you love the most?
You know, what do you idolize first?
The truth, honor, telling the truth?
Because the hatred of money then almost turns into another class envy system.
And then they use the underclass to rob the middle class, and the elite is manipulating that.
So it's very sophisticated.
And Catherine Austin Fitz, I really appreciate you joining us.
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Doesn't get any more elite than that.
Well, we're talking about two investment models.
The old investment model, which is
In the process of changing, and I'd like to talk about the new one too, but the old one says, as long as I have a positive return to me or my shareholders, and what I'm doing is lawful, that's okay.
Okay?
So, if you go to the Texas Pension Funds where you are, if you go to the Tennessee Pension Funds, and you say to them, what impact is it having on your communities that you're putting this money in these mortgage-backed securities?
They'll say, I don't know, because I'm not responsible to understand
My impact on the greater ecosystem, I leave that to government.
And we're going into a world, Alex, where we're going to come up with a new model and the model's going to look like this.
And the model's going to say, okay, you have a return to your investors or your shareholders or your family or your pension fund beneficiaries, but then you have an impact on your financial ecosystem, you know, in the greater world.
So we want to make sure that our investments have a positive return to the system and a positive return to us.
And we use the information of understanding the impact of our investments to protect ourselves against risk.
So, for example, if all the state pension funds, all the union pension funds, all the corporate pension funds in this country had said, I want to understand the impact my money is having on my financial ecosystem, it would have protected them
For making investments that we're ultimately going to lose the money because they would have seen, wait a minute, if I'm destroying the middle class and wiping out the middle class, that can't possibly be good for my investments in municipalities and places.
I'm going to lose money on this ultimately if I do things that are harmful.
So we're going from an investment model where people didn't need to understand their participation
Participation in the ecosystem to one where they're going to have to be much more awake about what their impact is, because that's going to be an essential risk management tool in a world that's much more global, much more integrated, and where capital's moving much faster.
So, what we're literally talking about is a complete reinvention.
It's simple, but it's profound in terms of your operations, if you're running money.
A real invention of the investment model.
Okay, I should have pointed out at the beginning, I had you on a few weeks ago about the problem and how this operation works, who we're facing, what they're setting up, the model they want, who they are and what the establishment wants, versus your idea and others' idea of how to have a non-destructive, non-predatory system.
But just going back to what the caller was asking me,
There's this other idea that ever having any wealth is bad in and of itself, when in truth, don't good people need to get in a position of being sustainable?
One of the most powerful spins that the New World Order promotes is that wealth is bad.
And let me tell you something, that's not coming from the grassroots, that's coming from the top.
Because when you, if everybody who's got a solution says wealth is bad, then they're going to keep sending their money to Wall Street.
Nobody's going to shift their retirement capital into a group of people and a new model that says wealth is bad.
You know, we've all worked, you know, we have a whole generation now, Alex, that have worked their entire life.
Many of them worked very hard to accumulate this capital, and this capital is the one thing standing between their family and the abyss.
So the last thing we need to say is, oh, that's bad.
That's what's protecting people.
That's good.
So, in fact, what we need is an investment model that says optimization and the creation and the building of wealth is good.
Because it is.
You know, there's no such thing as too much energy.
The question is how you channel and use it.
Because money's just a tool.
Exactly.
The robber baron class has written in many policy papers that they're waging war against the middle class that allows the working class to have upward mobility.
I think so.
Who the elite are, the type of economy they've set up, where we're going, so people understand how important it is to go with your alternative.
Well, that's the $64,000 question.
You know, who are they?
And I can only talk from what I know, because I'm not, you know, I'm not sitting in the Privy Council.
Well, tell folks their model.
Tell them, I mean... Essentially, what you have is at the very top of the investment hierarchy.
On this planet, you have intergenerational pools of capital that are controlled and owned by private families.
They're unbelievably centralized, and they operate through a whole series of bureaucracies, which you described, which is the, you know, the central banks and the insurance industry and the Bilderbergers and the Council on Foreign Relations, and there's umpteen billion secret societies coordinating all the stuff, because it's a big planet.
But at the very, very top, you have a small number of huge intergenerational pools of capital that have remarkable control, and it is remarkably centralized and very planned.
And we've reached the point where we've had a real breakdown in alignment of the interests of the folks at the top.
And everybody else.
So they kind of feel they're much better off with unbelievable control.
And I'm afraid if you look at the agricultural and other policies, you know, it's clear that we are on a trajectory for significant, you know, I would predict significant depopulation.
So there's a real breakdown in interest.
If you look at all the people in our society, Alex, are saying this is wrong and this is wrong.
They're talking about the money's wrong, or the corruption's wrong, or Wall Street's wrong, or 9-11's wrong, or vaccines are wrong.
All of those things are symptoms.
They're symptoms of the fundamental problem, which is the governance problem, which is who's in charge and why are they destroying significant amounts of freedom and wealth?
Because our problem in this world is not that there's too much wealth.
You're watching the centralization of economic control in a way that is significantly reducing wealth.
Significantly reducing wealth.
Yeah, they've sold the kind of underclass that wealth is what's hurting them.
No, it's that there's not enough wealth and we can turn the engine of wealth loose and we can colonize the stars.
There's enough for everybody.
It's unlimited.
It's really funny.
In the 1990s, I started a company in Washington called Hamilton Securities Group.
And coming out of the Bush administration, I said, you know, entrepreneurs are going to have to get government money out of communities and we're going to turn this thing around.
And we were putting together a plan where small business had easy access to all the information about how money worked in their place, including government contracts.
Which is, as you know, a big part of the economy.
And they also could put together little venture funds and mutual funds for their communities.
Stay there.
Let's talk about your plan that got nixed.
On the other side, Catherine Austin Fitts is our guest.
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Catherine Austin Fitts worked at the highest levels of the federal government managing hundreds of billions of dollars.
And her colleagues discovered that this trend was beginning to basically steal all the wealth and destroy wealth.
And now we have the big banks saying they want a world government.
We're going to pay a value-added tax on all financial transactions.
That's how they're going to get the banks.
But the money's paid to the elite banks.
We've got to identify this threat, but not just identify it, we've got to talk about other alternatives to use the power of currency and credit to build healthy communities.
Catherine Austin Fitz, please continue with the plan.
Yes, so I'm telling you about the time when I discovered how huge the opportunity was.
Because I didn't understand in the 90s, Alex, until this happened, how much the system is being used to shrink wealth.
In other words, you know, to keep people
Anyway, so we're doing this thing where we're making software tools.
Poor.
We made a software tool called Community Wizard, which would allow anybody in a community to dial in.
And Steve, you know, because if we look at the U.S.
budget, we see here's how the money works in housing or military.
We never see it contiguous to the areas that we vote for representation.
So you never see it sourced and used as a government appropriations contract and credit for your congressional district, which is, of course, what you need to hold your congressman accountable.
So anyway, so we took relational database technology and we reconfigured all the databases
So that you could start to look at your money by place.
And we were putting together venture funds and mutual funds for your neighborhood.
So you could literally put your 401k in a pool that would invest in local businesses.
And you could, in theory, you could trade and, you know, you could go to Bloomberg and see what your neighborhood was trading at, in theory.
So we're working away at this.
And I had this smart guy, it's a PhD from MIT, absolutely brilliant.
He's the smartest guy at the company.
And I said, okay, let's assume that we re-engineer all the government money so that we optimize total equity in the 3,100 counties, because America just breaks down into 3,100 counties.
So let's say we completely changed how we did the government money so that we could create as much business wealth, whether it's big companies or small companies.
And he went off and did the numbers, Alex, and he came back and I looked at him and I said, that's impossible.
He was saying,
Within a short period of time, we could get a six times multiple of total equity outstanding in the country alone, let alone globally.
And I just couldn't believe it.
So I made him go back and do the numbers a couple times and dug in and did the numbers, and I realized, oh my God, we're spending the entire federal budget in a way that totally shrinks innovation, entrepreneurship, cuts off
Capital to so much of the healthy economy, which is what you're seeing now in the way the credit crunch is being engineered.
We're shutting off money to all these different productive sectors, and if we stop doing it, the wealth could be enormous.
I mean, you know, there's really no reason for there to be poverty at all.
We have the resources.
And part of it is, you know, because you've covered this, is the sort of, you know, suppression of new technology.
And I was astonished and I, you know, for about a week I just walked around laughing.
I couldn't stop laughing because I realized, you know, there's plenty of money.
There really is no problem at all.
And then, of course, the Department of Justice teased our offices and stole all the databases and kept them under lock and key for six years, which is when I discovered, you know, that there really is an intentional effort to channel capital and restrict it in a way that really keeps things very much under control.
And we're running the economy
To achieve centralized control, not to achieve wealth.
If anything, we're trying to reduce the middle class to a state of, you know, not having the wealth that really supports freedom.
Because our Constitution and our freedoms, Alex, really depend on not being, not having our digital data and our physical bodies and our money controlled by somebody else very centrally.
And should that even be surprising to us?
You look at the Japanese feudal model.
You look at the European continental model of the last thousand years.
You look at the British model of the last 800.
You look at all of these systems.
It was written down in handbooks by the royalty and their lords.
To keep people at a subsistence level to make them more easily controlled.
I mean, this is the way the world has always worked.
It was only the Renaissance and the Enlightenment that reversed that.
And then we saw all these inventions and technology and wealth and the non-existent middle class suddenly appeared.
And now we have a new problem.
Right.
And if we're going to solve, if we're going to build a new alternative to the new world order, then we have to grapple with some of the issues that they're legitimately grappling with.
Which is, we have new powerful communications and digital technology, and that technology, Alex, allows some groups to have phenomenally high learning speeds.
And what has happened in this country is some people have shot way ahead and, you know, gone much faster, whereas other people have sat back and said, I don't want to change, but what I want is I want to continue to get my check.
And so we've had a political process in this country which wasn't democracy,
It was simply politicians buying electorates with their own money.
Let's talk about that!
Stay there!
Because the elite are creating a giant domesticated mass that they can use as a weapon against the tiny middle class that's left.
Then once they get rid of them, they remove the chicken feed from their slaves.
Catherine Austin Fitz, Solari.com, stay with us.
We're on the march.
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The Trilateral Commission would control the world.
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Pressure from above, pressure from below.
We're going right back to Catherine Austen Fitz here in just a moment with her discovery that the system knew that there was almost unlimited wealth generation capacity and that they didn't want that.
Instead, they wanted to go in the opposite direction towards wealth destruction.
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Okay, Catherine Austin Fitts, for those that just joined us, Assistant Secretary of Housing, Federal Housing Commissioner for Bush 41, investment banker, portfolio strategy of over $300 billion in financial assets and liabilities.
She's designed and closed over $25 billion of transactions herself.
She, of course, was on the board of Dylan Reed and the
Just a top analyst out there.
Such a great financial brain.
We're honored to have her.
Catherine, continuing where we left off with you have this awakening, you discover from the numbers that the system is designed to suppress wealth.
Please continue.
So I went through, it took me about 10 years to finish learning how to litigate successfully with the federal government.
But what I discovered, Alex, is real solutions are going to have to come from the grassroots.
And the important question is not how do we turn this around, but how do we get energy turning it around?
Because what we have to do, every person listening to this call is being drained by this process.
And what we need to do is reverse the drain.
We need to reverse the drain in our individual lives, and then in our family, and then our community, and it goes out.
And so, you know, if you come to one of our websites, it says, Redeeming the Monetary System One Customer at a Time.
So we have to do this individually.
Can't wait for the big solutions on how we're going to have to turn this around ourselves.
And so the question I've been working on since then, whether it's me personally or in my businesses, is how do I start to get back my power
And how do I prevent the drain in my life?
Because essentially, if you look at our money, we're all being harvested by the system, and so that's what we have to do, is we need the wealth growing, and we need it in a way which it's growing in your pocket, in my pocket, in the pocket of everybody listening to this call.
Okay?
So if they want a wealth-destroying model, we want a wealth-building model, and the way you do that is by building your wealth and my wealth and the wealth of everybody on this phone call.
Okay?
So one of the things I'd like to do is to walk through, let's look at each person's time and our health and our money, and just make some simple suggestions of what we can do to reverse the drain in our lives.
And if all of us start to do it, it's going to have an unbelievably dramatic effect on shifting power and wealth out of the New World Order and much more into the grassroots.
Um, so let's just talk about an individual, and the first most important thing you have to do, Alex, is you have to protect your time, because time is so...
So valuable in this environment, and I just want to tell everyone, and they probably know it because they're listening to the Alex Jones Show, but we've got to get radical about getting unreliable people and information out of our lives, particularly corporate media.
I mean, if you look at what's going on, you don't even have the time to be entertained by the disinformation, because it's such a complete waste of time.
So please turn off corporate media.
I want to tell you, you know, I often tell people to bank locally, and I'm often asked, you know, well, it's much more convenient, or isn't it really okay to bank at the big banks?
And I just want to tell a story of what happened to me in the last week.
In the last three days, my company has gotten hit by two unauthorized ACHs, electronic transfers from big banks.
It's going to take us five to seven hours this week just to reverse them.
And it's not going to be a problem for us because we have a great local community bank.
But that's the kind of tax these guys put on people.
You know, you literally just wake up and they've taken money out of your account that's not authorized.
It's incredible.
And that's why you want to get as far away from these guys.
You don't want them to have an authorization to dip into your account because then things like this are going to happen.
You there?
I'm just listening to you.
Yes, I'm here.
So get radical about getting these people out of any relationship with you that can eat up your time.
Okay, so that's number one time.
Number two is health.
Get radical about environmental pollution.
I just did a Hilaria report on chemtrails, just because I want people to understand the kind of poisoning that literally, you know, I have so many subscribers who take wonderful care of themselves.
They're responsible about their health.
You know, they eat the right food and everything, so they think they're okay.
And we need to understand we're not.
And whether it's chemtrails or vaccines or any of all the things you've covered, these really are enormous stresses and strains on our immune system and a buildup of toxicity that can really hurt a person.
And I'm an investment advisor, Alex, and there's nothing that will hurt your financial position more than bad health.
I mean, bad health is really the cause of more
More bankruptcies and financial problems in this country than anything else.
Well, since you're cueing me to interrupt, I'm trying to be polite because I want to hear what you have to say.
I'll interrupt.
And again, I'm not up here on a mountain.
You be quiet, Alex.
It's unnerving.
No, but I don't want to sit up here on a mountain because I'm certainly not as healthy as I should be.
But absolutely, you know, the Bible says that you've got to get your temple clean and your self clean first.
Before you can start fixing your life and then your city, your county, your state, the world.
And so we've all, number one, got to feel good about ourselves.
Realize that this Madison Avenue system is there to make us feel insecure so they can then sell us their false solutions.
We've got to feel good about ourselves.
We've got to get our relationship with God going again.
And we've got to realize that we've got to take action against this evil and just start taking a walk every morning.
Start eating healthier.
Stop drinking fluoridated water.
I mean, there's a reason and the evidence has been very clear on this.
We've reached the point where if you walk into the average, you know, typical grocery store, the food is not safe to eat.
And that's done by design.
I mean, the globalists are poisoning the food and water.
They have genetically engineered the crops.
Every major crop they found just so happens to make you sick, just so happens to give you stomach problems, just so happens to reduce fertility.
No, they've been caught engineering it into these.
I mean, they know what they're doing.
If you have any doubt about this, there's a wonderful
A DVD made in 2006.
It's up online.
You can get it on my blog.
It's called Killer at Large.
And it really focuses on what they're doing to the children with the food.
And I, you know, particularly if you have kids or grandkids, please watch Killer at Large.
You know, there's another great one, Super Size Me.
There are lots of great DVDs on the food system, but making sure that you and your family have fresh food and clean water without fluoridation and all the chemicals is so
So important.
And then I would include in the health area the ability to protect yourself.
So getting the proper training in, you know, if you want to bear arms, great.
Protecting the right to bear arms and doing whatever you have to do to protect yourself.
Now, for people who are in a county where you have a great sheriff and you can communicate with your sheriff and you have the right sheriff and police support, that's great.
But more and more, Alex, many of us are not, you know, in that.
We, two years ago, we had to organize to
All the women, or I should say all the women, a whole bunch of us in the Hickory Valley Women's Club went out, bought guns, got training, got our permits.
And, you know, there was lots of jokes about everybody who was married to somebody in the Hickory Valley Women's Club had to sleep with a, you know, a bulletproof vest.
But, you know, we haven't had any problems since then.
So part of health in this environment is making sure you know how to protect yourself and your family, and that probably is going to require some training and some time.
Then the third category after time and health is money.
And there are so many things we can do with our money to completely shift, you know, stop the drain from happening because the inflation, Alex, is killing us.
And it's funny because I constantly say to subscribers, why have your money in a money market account when you can put your money in tangibles?
Any non-perishable that you know you're going to use in the next two years
If you buy it now, given the inflation, I mean, we've seen food prices up 6% or more so far this year.
So if you put it in a non-perishable and just let the value of that inventory go up,
Then, in fact, you don't have to pay tax on that capital gain, and you're getting a much better yield than you are in the money market.
So there's a fundamental shift going on between tangibles and financial assets.
Tangibles are just going to keep getting more and more valuable, and that has a radical impact on how we think of our
Investments.
You know, a lot of people say, oh, well, you need to be diversified.
And what they mean by that is you need to have different kinds of corporate securities in your brokerage account.
That's nonsense.
What you need to do is have money outside of the brokerage system and be much more invested in tangibles and carry much less debt because debt has risks involved.
You know, I may be getting a higher yield on my investments than I'm paying on my mortgage.
But there are real risks associated to having with debt, and now as people are losing their jobs, we're all discovering that.
It's very important, Alex, to get radical about lowering our overhead and radical about lowering our debt.
Getting rid of things we don't need, focusing on what's important and finding out you didn't need most this junk, what you really need is your freedom.
Now, going back though, comprehensive annual financial reports, we know they started in Chicago in the 40s, it was adopted nationwide in the 50s, a double set of books, county, city, school districts, water districts, universities, federal
Well, they thought they were getting a good return.
They were getting a good return until they started to lose money.
Exactly, but that was the big setup, and so now we've got Bloomberg and others reporting the federal regulators are ordering the public pension funds to quote, invest in failed banks.
Since when can regulators order
The heads of the pension funds to invest in, quote, failed banks.
That sounds like a pretty bad investment.
When somebody comes to me and says, look, I've done everything I can to turn around the drain on my own finances and my family.
I've got extra time.
I want to be involved in my community.
The first thing I say is, you know, the New World Order is pulling a ton of money out of your community through local, state, and government, through the pension funds.
And if you can simply understand the game, bring transparency, and start to turn that around, the opportunities for wealth creation are absolutely phenomenal, Alex.
And it's just so huge that no one can even imagine how big it is.
But I agree with you.
If you look at our state and local government finances, let's start with a simple one.
The job engine in this country is small business.
Okay, so you have great local families with great local businesses, whether they're banks or stores or other operations in your community.
They are the job engine.
They are the thing that's keeping your community going in many respects.
And if you look at the government bank deposits, the government investments, the government contracts, the government purchases, those are going not to those great local businesses,
Or, you know, the great businesses in the state.
They're going out to places like Wall Street.
So I always use the example of the food stamp program here in Tennessee.
We have counties in Tennessee, Alex, that have 25% unemployment rate.
But meantime, we are outsourcing our data servicing and customer support on our state food bank.
I mean, food stamp program.
Are you ready for this?
To JPMorgan Chase in India.
So jobs that could be being done in Tennessee and counties where there's... Because these are digital.
You can shoot these with telecommunications anywhere.
Even the bureaucracy to deliver the welfare of dependency has been globalized to make sure that none of the money ever gets back to the community.
Exactly.
Right.
And nobody connects the dots because that knowledge, those databases... Well, here's another example I saw on the AP last week with a Texas case and the legislature's complaining.
They're taking existing roads
Giving stimulus money to Centra of Spain to come in and put toll roads on it and paying them paying them stimulus money to put the toll road gates and license plate reading cameras in and it came out that's illegal to use stimulus money for a toll road but they just don't care.
I mean this is incredible.
Well, it's incredible.
I mean, in my little town of Hickory Valley, there was a proposal to put up a cell tower at our city hall and use a government grant to do it when private parties were going to own it.
But the government was going to pay, I think, for half of it.
It's unbelievable!
So, you know, the money is clearly out of control.
And I think, you know, we're seeing incredible polls in the last two weeks.
Rasmussen
Polls basically, in an election between Ron Paul and Obama today, they're basically even.
And we've seen other polls, Alex, showing that people of all parts of the political spectrum agree more with the Tea Parties than they agree with any political party, Republican or Democrat.
And so you're watching a very powerful unification start to happen around, you know, Americans' belief in the Constitution and the importance of running the money clean.
You know, simple, basic issues.
And now with April 15th behind us, wanting
Nobody wants taxation without representation, which is really where we've gotten with the bailouts and now with the health care bill.
And so I think you're starting to see a very powerful new consensus emerge in America, which is our real opportunity, saying, wait a minute, you know, this system has no legitimacy.
It has no legitimacy under the Constitution.
It has no legitimacy under the law.
And the funny thing, the conundrum, the weakest you remember in
Star Wars, where they have the hole in the Death Star.
The Death Star has one vulnerability?
Yes.
Let me tell you where the vulnerability is for the New World Order.
You know, the hole in their Death Star.
And that is that as a bureaucracy, they have promoted all sorts of wonderful things.
The most wonderful being the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence.
And the second most wonderful being all sorts of fiduciary laws related to the money.
And if you look at their operation, they are in direct and intentional violation to criminal standards on those two laws.
And what is happening that's so powerful is the Tea Party group, you know, sort of the other people rising up and saying, this is wrong.
...have embraced constitutional principles, the principles of the Declaration of Independence, and all the fiduciary laws related to money.
And so you've got a very interesting switch of what the Chinese call the Mandate of Heaven, because the Tea Party and Ron Paul and his group have got the Mandate of Heaven according to, you know, hundreds of years old traditional
Let me just interrupt.
I mean, to boil it down, the banks, the offshore corporations, are engaged in a hostile corporate takeover.
It's purely illegal.
They raise our taxes for corporate welfare to be paid to them by the government.
They also come in and buy off the city managers to invest most of our tax money in their derivatives, so that's another tax to the private banks.
It's illegal, and now the people are finally waking up and going, wait a minute, a bunch of made-off criminals
Ken Laytives are running our society!
Right, and let me tell you what people are waking up to, because people have known it was criminal for a long time, and the question was always what we do about it, but they're coming to the same point I came to in 1998, which was, you know, this thing is so perverted, and is so without any
Uh, you know, it's so empty of any meaning and value.
I want nothing to do with it, and I would rather be out in the wilderness.
I'd rather die in the wilderness than be part of the New World Order.
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The United Nations would take over America.
The Trilateral Commission would control the world.
Invisible Empire chronicles how men of power and influence have worked in stealth for centuries to establish an oppressive world government.
I believe, first of all, that we now need nothing short of a world constitution for the global financial system.
Global governance with the establishment of the G20.
So it's going to be an inner ruling elite and then everyone else.
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The oligarchs, the Anglo-American establishment, have written hundreds of books, thousands of white papers, bragging about the system they're setting up.
And people 50 years ago, 30 years ago, 20 years ago, 10 years ago, would warn the public, and they would laugh at them.
But because people have been out there telling the truth, now that world government's being openly announced, people are going, whoa, this was real, and they're seeing that it's predatory.
You know, I get these emails all the time about, it'll be like Star Trek.
I'm a humanist.
It's the next level of humanity.
No more wars.
We'll all be together.
No, it's a global government waging war on you, humanity.
That's what these people out there that support world government, the useful idiots, don't understand.
And powerful words from Catherine Austen Fitz at the end of that segment saying, I'd rather die than be in the New World Order.
I wanted her to be able to finish that statement and then continue through this segment and the next.
Go ahead, Catherine.
Well, what I was saying was, I was in the middle of litigation in Washington in 1998 when I made the decision, and Alex, you know, everything was corrupt.
I was dealing with folks from the Department of Justice, and the courts, and my own attorneys, and it just went on and on and on and on.
At one point, I finally realized these people don't believe in the law of any kind.
It's what Leonard Cohen said, they're blinded by the beauty of their weapons.
And ultimately, an economy and a civilization can't be based on force and greed.
That's not enough to keep something going.
And, you know, if you look at the great empires throughout history, they had something more than simply guns and greed.
And so, uh, you know, and I remember saying, look, we need another plan.
This is not going to work.
And I would rather be dead than be part of it because it's too perverted.
I mean, it's just, if you, if you look at the sexual practices, if you look at the cultural practices, it's just too perverted.
Now, let me speak in defense of some of the top guys.
What they say is the crowd always votes with the criminals.
You know, you know, the story of the crucifixion you're talking about.
Jesus and the Money Changer.
You know, Jesus gets hauled off by the Romans at the request of the priests.
Yevaz Barabbas!
Right!
And the Romans know it's very bad karma to kill Jesus, so they offer the crowd the option of the criminal or Jesus.
And the crowd lets the criminal off.
And if you look throughout history, what the guys at the top will say, look, the crowd is eager to manipulate the guy that will buy them with their own money always wins.
That's what I was about to say.
I've had high-level elitists openly tell me over the years, look Alex, this is the way the world is.
You might as well join it and try to do some good in the evil system because this is just the way it is.
But once you have that attitude, it just races downhill into Nazi Germany.
Right.
And that's the problem.
And suddenly, it's funny, I gave a presentation in London many years ago about what was happening in this country.
There was a guy who I'm pretty sure they had sort of sent over to discredit me after I spoke.
And I gave a paper called The Myth of the Rule of Law, which is quite good, and it was quite fair and everything, and this guy just turned redder and redder as he was listening to me speak, and finally, when it was over, he just burst out and he said, you don't understand me!
He said, we can't depend on people to be responsible, so we just can't depend on them to be responsible.
And I turned to him and I said, so that's why you destroy all the people who are?
And because really what, you know, all this has been used to justify just taking and theft and bad behavior on their part.
And Alex, he jumped up and walked out of the conference and never came back, so I guess he figured he couldn't discredit me and was instead deeply disturbed.
But there is a chicken and egg problem, and that's why I believe that significant efforts
Yeah, people who have children and people who love humanity
I mean, I've seen so many people who've been abused, who then become abusers.
It's like, well, I've been cheated, so I'm gonna cheat somebody else, but then when I get cheated, I fight to stop others from being cheated.
I mean, there's just so many twisted people out there.
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Catherine, there's this article in the London Guardian today, new global FAT tax to rein in banks and they say it's a VAT on all transactions and the nations are all passing laws to comply.
Gordon Brown says it's a global governance and the top banks will now put taxes on all other financial transactions and give themselves the money.
And they're billing it all over the news as a way to get the rich bankers.
I mean, they really are slick how they pass all their different takeover operations in the name of getting the rich guys.
I mean, they are really duplicitous.
But I guess they've got the Guardian and the AP and others working for them.
You know, the Matrix is... Trillions of dollars are spent on getting the Matrix to look... You know, Disney World has taught these guys a lot.
So, you know, but there's a great amount of money made to make the system look legitimate, you know, up to and including the lawsuit against Goldman Sachs.
Oh yeah, I wanted to ask you about that.
We're almost out of time.
I believe it's because there's so much heat, it's civil, they can now have a 3-4 year investigation, give somebody a $5 million fine, slap somebody on the wrist, and use the investigation to smokescreen all the state investigations.
Well, I think it's complex.
I think there are multiple agendas going on, but there's no doubt about it.
I think the reason this one got through is these latest polls that show Ron Paul even with Obama or the Tea Party representing most American people more than either political party.
I think Washington is in real trouble, and Washington is trying to
This wasn't us.
No, no, no.
This was Wall Street, which is clearly a bunch of bunk.
But coming into the election, Washington has a real problem.
The Democrats have a real problem, because if you look at the Glass-Steagall derivative that was all Rubin and Clinton, and we see literally Clinton in testimony this last week saying,
So you're saying it's so bad for them they may even throw a few of their minions overboard?
Oh, they're going to throw a lot, and that's the opportunity.
If you make a deck of cards, I want you to make a deck of cards that are basically the 50 most ridiculous people in the New World Order and make fun of them, because the more we make fun... The ones who are going to get shot are the ones we make fun of.
They have excess capacity.
So what you're going to watch is they're going to start turning against each other.
Yeah, because really, they're all a bunch of hateful creatures anyways.
Any excuse to, well, I throw him over, I'll move up the pyramid.
There's no loyalty among rats, and that is our opportunity if we can be part of something.
And that's what I said before, there are so many wonderful people who are working in government, or working in large corporations, or working in state and local government, that are looking at what is going on.
They're absolutely appalled, and they need
You know, they need more and more of us offering something which is constitutional, which is lawful, and which is wealth building to attract them into.
We've only got one minute left.
Do you agree with me that they're setting the stage for false flag terror to be blamed on tea parties?
I mean, they're really, really beating the drum right now.
They're trying so hard.
And the harder they try, the more ridiculous they look.
And so, they're going to keep trying.
It's going to fail completely.
And I hope they just keep talking that way, because the more they talk that way, the funnier they look.
It is getting ridiculous.
It is getting ridiculous when you say you don't like the banks looting you, you hate black people, you want to blow up federal buildings.
It's not working.
It's not working.
So I hope they keep doing it because the reason Ron Paul is pulled into
You know, is head-to-head now with Obama's because of these tactics and how they're failing.
People are smart, Alex.
It is amazing how little violence you see across this country.
It is amazing, because people have learned.
That will be used the wrong way.
People are really smart about how they are exercising their disobedience to the New World Order.
We're for law, we're for wealth, and they're against it.
Catherine, we're out of time.
Absolutely.
Incredible interview.
Thank you for spending time with us.
God bless you.
Alex, you're the best!
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Well, he has survived a lengthy battle with cancer.
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He's a tough guy.
He's in the hospital bed right now.
Ted Gunderson.
He entered the Federal Bureau of Investigation in December 51.
He served in Mobile, Knoxville, New York City, Albuquerque offices.
He held posts as assistant special agent in charge in New Haven and Philadelphia.
As the Chief Inspector and Special Agent in Charge of the Memphis and Dallas Division.
In 77, Gunderson took his last position as Senior Special Agent in Charge of the Los Angeles Division.
And when he retired, he was chosen as Law Enforcement Officer of the Year in America by AFL-CIO Metal Trade Council.
And it just goes on and on from there.
And Ted Gunderson
Literally, exposed big cases that even came out in the newspaper with the CIA with giant child kidnapping rings, Satanist control grids.
And he talked about this 25 years ago, even though he had the evidence, people laughed.
Now, it just comes out and comes out.
Skull and Bones, Bohemian Grove, all these pedophile politicians, pedophile priests.
This is the DynCorp running the CPS in many counties in the country.
I mean, it is nightmarish.
So he joins us from his hospital.
Well Alex, it's always a pleasure to be on your show and thank you very much for giving me a call.
And you know me, I'm glad to share any information I have with anybody that wants to listen to it long enough.
So, here I am.
Ted, that's awesome.
Your phone was coming in great earlier.
It's overdriving a bit.
Can you back off of it a bit?
Yeah, is it just better now?
That is awesome, sir.
Thanks a million.
Okay, tell us a little bit about the FBI, the positions you held, and COINTELPRO, and I know laying there in your hospital bed, you've probably seen Clinton saying, gee, I hope the rhetoric settles down, because if people don't stop criticizing Obama, it's going to be their fault when a federal building blows up, and we know they've now caught the Democrat operatives with Nazi signs in the Tea Parties.
Absolutely.
I've said this for 30-some odd years.
Absolutely no question about it.
This whole terrorist movement was designed to bring on the Patriot Act, Homeland Security, and take away many of our constitutional rights and liberties, legally as they say, by passing these laws.
And as you know, Alex, the Patriot Act was passed at three.
It was substituted.
The real act had been approved by 36 members of the Judiciary Committee.
And it was to be voted on that particular morning by Congress, and at 3 o'clock in the morning of that morning that it was to be voted on, George W. Bush came in with his own version, a 300-page version of the Patriot Act, and substituted it for the other one, and then our congressman voted on an act that nobody had ever read!
And, you know, what does it do?
Look what it does.
It's a direct violation of the Constitution in a number of areas, the freedom of speech, the due process, and then it just goes on and on and on.
That's what it's all about.
This terrorist movement in this country today is government-coordinated.
The covert, I call it the criminal government
I think so.
And on and on and on.
Oklahoma City was inside job, 9-1-1's inside job.
The World Trade Center car bombing, February 26, 1993.
The FBI was not only involved in it, they knew in advance
This is in the New York Times, October 28, 1993, by the way.
They knew in advance, the FBI did, about the bombing.
And they had an informant in with the group, and he was told to put the bomb together.
He went to his FBI superiors, and he said, we're going to use a dummy bomb, aren't we?
And his FBI superiors said, no, we're going to use a real bomb.
The FBI knew in advance that they were going to bomb the World Trade Center car bomb in 1993.
They punished him for the bomb.
Now, what more evidence do you want?
And that came out during the trial because the FBI informant wore a body mark on Mike when he met with the terrorist.
And I know that the FBI wore a body mark when he met with the FBI, and that's what probably
Yeah, that was Ahmad Salaam.
I mean, he knew that they were setting him up.
And so he went in and said, look, you're saying go ahead with the bombing.
You did this.
Why are you doing this?
We were supposed to bust them.
And the FBI said, no, it goes forward.
Now, again, we're very honored to have you, Ted, and you're going 100 miles an hour, which is great because you're so full of information.
Everything he's saying is backed up and documented for my own research.
But let's go back now and be sure and back off that phone for me.
Uh, let's go back to your awakening in the FBI, what you saw with COINTELPRO, what it is, and how you see them trying to now frame the Tea Parties, how they're prepping the public and the media for terror attacks to discredit people that are trying to stop the New World Order.
Well, uh, I was very active in the Coinshot Gold program, uh, protecting the Black Panthers back in the 1960s through the Vietnam War.
You know, we used it against them, and it was very effective, and it's very effective today, and they're using it today.
But what they're doing today makes the old coin jar throw program by the FBI back in the 60s look like a Sunday school class.
These guys today are unbelievable.
I mean, they're brazen, they're violating the law, they're coming out and trying to set people up.
I'm a perfect example of it.
They tried to set me up.
In 1982 with the drug deal with a girl named Pam Fawcett and she came over to my side and told me that they were trying to set me up and I took, I gave her a polygraph examination.
Well, tell people what COINTELPRO is, and when you were involved in it, as you said it was light compared to what's going on now.
What it is?
Well, what Point L4 program is, is a disinformation, major disinformation program.
And I'll give you an example.
On the Black Panthers back in the 60s, we sent an anonymous letter to the Secretary-Treasurer of the Black Panthers party there in New Haven, Connecticut.
And told him that the chairman of the Black Panthers party was having an affair with his wife.
We sent a letter at the same time to the chairman.
Told him that the secretary treasurer was stealing money from the Panthers.
And it causes disruption within the ranks and it causes dissension among the troops.
So that's, you know, that's just an example of it, but... That's right, that's right.
And they've done that to me.
I mean, if you go on the internet, you see people like Stu Leather, an FBI informant, right?
I took him in,
We're good to go.
Well, I don't even really know that guy, but I mean the issue is, they call my wife up on unlisted numbers and tell her what her and I have been talking about on the phone, and then women call up saying I've gotten them pregnant.
So it's just standard stuff.
Uh, going on, but, but, but you're saying today it's much worse.
What do you see them doing with the Tea Party?
Because it's, every news channel is saying we're all racist Klan members and we're going to blow federal buildings up.
The news is all saying I'm calling for violence when I'm calling for the opposite.
Uh, break that down.
Well, what they're doing is they've infiltrated every group in America.
They've got their own people in there, their own informants, their own provocateurs in there, and they're going to stir them up.
They're going to come up with the idea.
Their provocateurs are going to come up with the idea of doing some violent acts.
And then try to set up the Tea Party itself for the violent action.
And then, of course, that's when the FBI will come in and arrest everybody.
And they'll let their people go, people that set it up.
They'll be pretending like the prosecuting mill has disappeared out the back door.
And that'll be it.
Well, that's like, that's like Atari up in Michigan.
They're now saying that their FBI agent and informant were part of the nine-member group, but they still arrested all of them, but some of them are being held at other facilities, so we'll see them be released out the back door later.
Absolutely.
They'll release their own people and then they'll go on to another part of the country and work in with another group under another name and start all over again.
That's exactly what's happening.
Absolutely.
Well, they've even caught the Democrats telling people to go out and dress like Nazis and go to tea parties.
But more and more of this is coming out.
I mean, do you think the New World Order is in trouble?
Well, I hope that they're in trouble.
You know, because people are waking up.
And when I started talking about this like 30 years ago, I got out of the FBI in 1979.
When I started talking about this 30 years ago and I came out and went public with this, people thought I was a kook, I was nuts, I was a conspiracy theorist.
But now people are saying, you know, looking back, you were right.
And people are saying that to me on almost a daily basis.
So I think people are waking up to what's going on thanks to shows like this, Alex, by the way.
Yeah, well, thank you, sir, but I go back over your research.
I mean, you broke major cases that came out in the newspaper, but then the investigation would get shut down, where the Finders case, with the CIA openly running child porn, everything else, I mean, you guys were busting them with the kids.
I mean, you really have been tireless out there, and now we know
That literally, it's like a satanic pedophile guild at the top.
Let's talk about that when we come back and how these people operate and what their new world order is, what they want to build with Ted Gunderson.
He ran the Southern California, L.A.
division, one of the biggest posts of the FBI in the country, a special agent in charge, and he exposed the whole thing.
We'll be right back with Ted Gunderson from his hospital bed.
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Ted Gunderson, senior FBI agent, retired, fighting the New World Order for decades, is our guest.
And he just had his bladder removed, and he's fighting, he's defeated cancer, so his doctor may come in any time, and he'll have to get off and call us back.
But Ted Gunderson, short segment right now, long segment coming up.
From your FBI training, from your research, a lot of your predictions you made over the decades unfortunately came true.
How do you see the feds and the globalists
From their pre-programming on the news, because he always pre-programmed, I know you've been watching it, because we talked before he went on air, what type of attacks should we look out for to demonize the Patriot movement?
Well, first of all, they're going to make all kinds of wild allegations, like we mentioned, Stu Webb, being an FBI informant.
He said I was practicing botanic ceremonies in the federal building, which is the reason I was dismissed from the FBI, which is not true.
They're going to use all kinds of disinformation like that against each one of us.
Like, I think they've accused you of being Miss Barbara Potter or something else, Alex.
And that's a lot of crazy stuff.
And so they're going to use those tactics, and then they are going to use their own infield traders into the various groups.
There was a supervisor, FBI supervisor out of Albuquerque, made a statement publicly that the FBI had infield traded every patriot movement in the country.
Well, they have.
They got their informants out there.
I know, because back in the late 60s when I was acting against the Black Panthers,
We were in, and also the Communist Party, we had members and people that were informants for us within every group in America.
So they can go in there and disrupt the operation, make plans for a terrorist act of some sort, and then blame it on the infiltrators and so forth.
So it goes on and on and on.
It's a vicious circle.
And you know, like for example, you mentioned the children that were
I worked with Johnny Kemp on this case in Nebraska back in the 80s, late 80s, early 90s, where they were flying children out of Omaha, Nebraska.
They were actually driving them to Sioux City, Iowa, 184 miles away, putting them in private jets, flying them to Washington, D.C.
for sex, or using the Congressman Center.
Well, then, Rusty Nelson, the picture photographer who I interviewed, by the way, and I have him on tape,
Uh, with, uh, would take pictures and then they blackmail the congressmen and tell them how to vote.
And that's what's happening in America today.
And, uh, we don't have enough people like Kucinich and, uh, Ron Paul standing up.
Uh, and these other people have all been, uh, many of them have been blackmailed through children and through sex and through drugs and what have you.
And, uh, of course, they're only interested in being reelected, for the most part.
So from your research, I mean, what percentage, how does the power structure work?
Is it a mixture of pedophiles, satanists, occultists?
Because, I mean, every time, I was never expecting to find this, every time I do research, we run into satanism, pedophilia, devil worship, occultism.
I mean, it's really just a bunch of lunatics.
Oh absolutely, but they're well organized and they're patient.
We are dealing with a bunch of Nazi, fascist, evil people.
And they are lunatics, but they're well organized.
They know what they're doing.
They have a master plan.
It's called the Illuminati.
And we're in a spiritual war.
A spiritual war all the way.
And so people need to wake up to what's actually going on.
By the way, Alex, I have 52, ever since I retired, I've written 52 reports.
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6,500 pages of my reports are available to the public just on a CD.
And you mentioned Oklahoma City earlier.
Well, I've got my... Yeah, I want to get into that.
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Let's start getting into that report.
Well, that report, Alex, I wrote, I've written reports on 9-1-1, I've written reports on Oklahoma City, which we'll go into more in detail, I guess, later on in the show.
I've written reports on the car bombing of the World Trade Center in 93, and so on and so forth.
And also on child, CIA child kidnapping operations by the Finders.
I have this report on the Finders, a dynamite report, it documents that the CIA is involved in kidnapping children, selling them for up to $50,000 each.
We're good to go.
Well, stay there!
Let's get into it!
Ted, we've got a break.
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He's just had his bladder removed from cancer.
And tough guy, there in the hospital bed, firing away with the Info Weapons.
We'll be right back with Ted Gunderson, FBI retired.
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Ted, let's run through Oklahoma City and
And not just COINTELPRO, with Clinton and others saying there's going to be another attack, and even Michael Savage is now coming out saying Obama, he believes, is going to stage a terror attack.
Limbaugh has almost gone that far, saying that they're going to try to blame it on us.
So the public, this isn't 1993 or 95, the public is getting wise to false flag terror.
So let's talk about Oklahoma City, understand the past, you know the present and the future, and then let's look at what type of big terror attacks
Obama says the number one threat is nukes going off, and what you know about suitcase nukes.
Ted Gunderson.
Well, you know, when Oklahoma City occurred, I had a call from Mike McConnish, I mentioned Mike's name a few moments ago.
Mike told me that the Oklahoma City bombing, it was not a fertilizer bomb, it was his bomb that he developed when he was with the CIA for 20 years.
And it's called the Electrohydrodynamic Gaseous Fuel Device.
Now, anybody with any sense knows anything about fertilizer bombs.
You don't even have to know anything about it, but you know that a fertilizer bomb does not destroy half of that building, which is what they claimed in Oklahoma City.
So, Mike Collins told me this, and so I started researching it, and I found out and learned the, I'll call it a barometric bomb.
This bomb was actually developed back in the 1980s.
I don't know.
And then it was highly classified, and is highly classified, still is to this day.
And Reagan put a high classification on it, top secret, not to be developed or to furnish to anybody, any other sources, and so on and so forth.
And this was actually the bond that was used in Oklahoma City.
Now, my research didn't stop there.
I found out the contract number for this bomb.
It was developed by Hercules Manufacturing, which was Mike McConaughey's company.
He actually developed the bomb.
And it was manufactured by Dyna-Nobel out of Salt Lake City.
I wrote to Picatinny Arsenal in New Jersey, and with the contract number, and said, I want a copy of the contract.
This is public source information, by the way.
And they came back and said, there's no such contract in our record.
And so that was an outright lie because I actually had the contract number itself.
And so they're right there.
Now, in June of 1995, right after the bombing, Bill Clinton gave a speech in Hanover, New Hampshire, and he said that the bomb used in Oklahoma City was a miracle of technology.
The government in the meantime is telling us that the fertilizer bomb was used in Oklahoma City, and now Clinton comes out and says it was a miracle of technology.
We're good to go.
I don't think so.
And then McVeigh was working for Black Ops, and we had Jane Graham on yesterday, who was on the 9th floor, and she said she saw McVeigh going up and down the elevator, she saw guys with grey sticks of butter and wiring, and we know police officers said they saw the same thing, like Terrence Yeagy, that he basically got, you know, killed.
All of this, all of this going on, and you have the building blown out, not in, and you've got, at the same time, Clinton saying it's going to happen again,
And not even a veiled threat saying it's going to be blamed on the Tea Parties.
That's right.
Right.
It's all on a Gilmore Park master plan in order to become clear of martial law.
We know that they've got guillotines scattered around, at least 30,000 guillotines in I think they're in Atlanta right now.
We have coffins that are shot filed in Georgia.
It just so happens that in 1995 the state legislature in Georgia passed a law that would allow inmates who were given the death sentence to be executed by guillotine.
That's right, more than a decade ago you said they were stockpiling plastic coffins everywhere and now they're on the news and they admit they're stockpiling them everywhere.
That's right, that's right.
And, uh, and they, uh, you know, now they have, they, Georgia, 1995, passed this law which allowed them to bring guillotines and also, uh, coffins into Georgia, uh, as an excuse.
Now, they've prepped in anticipation of doing this on a national base, I believe.
And, uh, absolutely, no question about it.
And, uh, so, you know, it goes on and on and on.
By the way, I might mention this also.
In the Fireman's Magazine, September 1995,
The editor wrote an article about Oklahoma City, and the information he obtained for the article came from the Oklahoma City Fire Department.
And in that article, it says that four different conventional bombs were removed from that building, from the Murrah Building in Oklahoma City.
Four conventional bombs were removed.
So I think that what happened is that the parametric bomb went off,
And, uh, it was to be followed by four other bombs that would have completely destroyed that building, but if they did it for some reason, rather the other four bombs did not go off, they had to remove them.
And they stopped the rescue process for like five hours while they ran in there and brought a bunch of files out of Oklahoma City.
Uh, and, uh, and of course we know about Terence Yeagey.
They said that he committed suicide.
Uh, well, I mean, that's pretty tough to do, uh, because he had 13, uh, 13, by the way,
Uh, injuries to him, including to his, uh, to his arms and, uh, I think on his neck.
And, uh, of course he was shot, and, uh, there was blood in his car, and his body was like, I forget, I think a mile off the highway or something along, uh, he couldn't distance himself off the highway.
So, uh, you know, that's all part of the cover-up.
Yeah, he had, I talked to his wife at one time, and he had a video
He was a videopop, and he had a videocamera right there at the time of the Oklahoma City bombing, and he came over and started taking pictures with his video, and they wanted that.
The New World Order boys wanted those pictures from his camera in order to quash the... Well, that's right.
We've interviewed Colonel Craig Roberts.
Uh, who's talked, who's a police officer also, in the area, who talked to his partner, and the last time Terence Yankee, cop of the year for saving all those people in the building, was heard from, he was going to a secret storage facility outside the police department, out in the country, where he had these materials, and he said, I'm being followed by feds, and then they found his body, he'd been tortured to death, trying to find out where that video was, and we had all those other video cameras,
From the local bank and the YMCA that the government declared national security on and wouldn't release from the Oklahoma City bombing.
As close as you can tell from your research, and it did come out in mainstream newspapers, that the FBI head of counterterrorism was there for the week before, was there the day of the bombing.
He'd lied about that.
He'd said that he'd flown up from Dallas that day, that morning.
How is it run, you say?
Well, when you say I was wrong, I mean, there was an inside investigator told me, investigator for the defense by the way, told me they released 11 other people involved in it.
So it took a team of people in order to pull this off.
You can't just run up the truck with a fertilizer bomb and explode it.
Well, that's what Jane Graham said.
She said there were army guys in McVeigh crawling all over the building.
That's right.
That's right.
So it was well planned and well run.
They were real professional.
These guys know what they're doing.
But the only trouble is that the four conventional bombs didn't explode, so they didn't bring the whole building down.
We're good to go.
It's in my CD and among 52 other reports.
And this report is available, Alex, for $35.
All my reports, 6,500 pages of reports, including 9-1-1, Oklahoma City, and what have you, and the Nebraska case, and finders, the child kidnapped by the CIA.
Excuse me.
And these are available to the public if you folks want to send $35 to me.
Do you want me to give my address, Alex, or what?
Absolutely, and the address is at tedgunderson.net, correct?
Yeah, that's the, uh, but send $35 and I'll send you this CD, and then I want you to make copies of this CD and get it out to your friends, because this is all documentation we're talking about here on the radio show.
Absolutely, and you deserve the support as well.
Give out the address.
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This is the best documentation that I can come up with.
It's all in my report.
222 pages of dust, just on Oklahoma City alone.
I also have 9-1-1 in there.
The FBI was alerted to 9-1-1, I might mention, on March the 20th, 2001, six months prior to 9-1-1.
There was a fellow in the FBI named Keith Kutry.
He was given information about advanced terrorist acts by the Al Qaeda group.
Well, Ted, you talked about this day one, when 9-11 happened eight years ago, and then it came out that all these FBI agents, Kathleen Rowley and Minneapolis,
And FBI agents in Phoenix and FBI agents all over the country knew specifically what was happening and they were told to shut up and they were demoted and then those that told them to shut up were given record cash bonuses.
That was in the Washington Post.
Right.
Right, absolutely.
Let me ask you this.
Let me ask you this.
How is the FBI broken up?
Because we know the average FBI agent is doing kidnappings and bank robberies.
What divisions of the FBI are involved in the really dirty deeds and how do they liaison in to the private contractors, into the CIA and other groups?
Well, the Domestic Intelligence Division, which would be Division 5, is the one that would be handling this.
And they also handle, by the way, the Kennedy assassination and some of these other sensitive investigations.
And they have a liaison with key people and with the politicians.
And, uh, their activity, uh, the Agencies Assigned to the Domestic Intelligence are coordinating this with CIA, uh, uh, uh, IAEA Intelligence, uh, primarily Army Intelligence, and, uh, they have, they have a nationwide, uh, operation that's designed, uh, it's really a terrorist act, uh, operation designed against the average citizen to expose us and to come after us and to cause, uh, raise hell and, uh, raise havoc with us and with our activities and discredit us.
And the average FBI agent doesn't really know anything about this, do they?
No, absolutely not.
No, they do not.
As a matter of fact, Alex, I mentioned Reconosudo.
You folks need to Google Reconosudo, the name Reconosudo.
I'm going to spell his name for you.
R-I-C-O-N-O-S-T-I-U-T-O.
Michael J. Reconosudo.
R-I-C-O-N-O-S-T-I-U-T-O.
I think so.
And on a congressional hearing, accusing the Brooks Committee back in the late 80s, and he was set up on a drug operation and sentenced to 30 years.
Michael's in prison now for this alleged drug allegation.
But anyway, Michael, his mistake was he testified against the government.
And so they go in after him, they set him up and what have you.
Now, I visit Michael on a regular basis because Michael and I have done a lot of work together.
As a matter of fact, we met Osama bin Laden back in the spring of 1986 and we were responsible, Michael and I, for the surface air missiles.
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I think so.
Folks, we've never had this happen, and maybe it's just Murphy's Law or something else, but right when he started talking about meeting with Osama bin Laden and a State Department official back in 86, there was just, all the power went crazy.
Only in the studio, everything went dead.
I don't know.
How that happens and was just going crazy, turning on and off.
And I've never seen anything like this.
And so very, very bizarre.
Ted, you got cut off there.
Everything got wiped out.
This is the end of the show.
I'll have to have you back about this.
Specifically, meeting with Osama bin Laden.
What was that in relationship to?
You said getting service to ground, service to air missiles to the Mujahideen.
Go ahead.
Well, I had a... Back in the spring of 86, I had a friend named Bill Sloan come to me.
He was a former top administrative official with the Reagan administration.
And Bill said, can you help the Afghan rebels in their fight against the Soviets?
And I knew him on the contact of Mike McConaughey, who I knew had been in the CIA for some 20 years, a scientist.
And Mike and I met in a hotel room in Sherman Oaks, California, with this State Department official, and a Palestinian fellow was driving around with a Turkish passport, and his name was Jim Osman.
That was the name he was using.
I found out years later it was actually Osama Bin Laden.
And as a result of that meeting, Michael furnished the Afghan rebels with surface-to-air missiles that we shot down, that they used to shoot down the Soviet helicopters that won the war for them.
So you're saying you were involved in the conduit with the government?
I found out later.
I didn't know it until I found out years later.
He was Osama Bin Laden.
He was driving down to Turkey's passport and came to Osman.
Well, that's now been declassified that it was Tim Osman, and yeah, he had a shaven face and everything else.
I mean, did he speak good English, or what was he like?
Yeah, he didn't speak much, but he literally, you know, you could understand him.
I didn't think much about it.
I didn't realize it was Osama Bin Laden.
And he was undercover.
And I talked to the State Department official years, you know, later on in trying to get
Make certain admissions.
He said, just forget about me.
Leave me out of the picture.
I don't want to have anything to do with it.
He was afraid.
Which I'm not.
Anyway, you know, that's the story.
Steve Michael developed these sources inside the Arab world by furnishing these purpose-bearing vessels that defeated the Soviets.
Well, Ted Gunderson, I'm glad that you've beat cancer and we'll talk to you again soon.
An amazing interview.
You know, he's the former special agent in charge of Memphis, Dallas and the Los Angeles division.
Thanks, Alex.
Thanks for having me on your show.
And everything goes dead here before we went to the last break.
That was, that was strange.
But we'll just hope that it was just Murphy's Law, just a coincidence.
Sure it is.
No big deal.
I'm gonna try to figure out what happened now that the show's about to end.
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