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unidentified		The Genesis Communications Radio Network proudly presents The Alex Jones Show.
unidentified		Because there's a war on for your mind.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We are live, ladies and gentlemen.
		Thank you so much for joining us.
		We're also simulcasting the radio show live right now on Living Color at PrisonPlanet.tv.
		It is Thursday, the fifth day of November 2009, and for the next 20 minutes or so, Congressman Ron Paul joins us from Capitol Hill, and there is a lot to talk about.
		Today.
		First off, out of the gates, you obviously got 290 plus sponsors to begin the audit of the private secret of Federal Reserve.
		You've talked this week about some maneuvers by some of the committee chairmen to gut the bill.
		Can you give us an update on where your legislation is going, Congressman?
ron paul ▲ ● ▼		Well, actually right now we have 309, and that's 130 some Democrats, as well as all the Republicans.
		And at one time, Mel Watt had indicated to me that he would get a provision put in the bill by Barney Frank, which would be a very, very limited version of an audit, which would be a distraction, if nothing else.
		Even though the little bit we was doing, it was okay, it was just so small, it was cancelling out most of what I wanted to do.
		But his provision didn't get put into the bill.
		We are now in the middle of doing the bill.
		I thought there was even a chance today that I would get to offer my amendment, which is 1207, to the bill.
		But it was just announced a few minutes ago that Barney Frank said that, well, the controversial type of amendments won't be done until after the Labor Day or the Veterans Day break, which is next week.
		So it won't be this week, and it won't be next week, but the following week.
		I suspect they're just lining up their ducks, and there'll probably be lots of attempts to water things down.
		But I don't know.
		We'll have to wait and see.
		We're in the middle of it.
		We're coming close to at least an initial climax of the bill on what the banking committee will do.
		And it has to survive there, and it has to come out there pretty whole, or things won't look so good for us.
		But I'm cautiously optimistic about it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But the momentum's clearly shifted.
		20-something years ago, you might get two or three co-sponsors.
		Now you have over 300, a giant House majority.
		So the momentum is shifting against the secretive organization.
ron paul ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and if we can get a clean vote, I can't imagine very many wanting to be on record to vote against this.
ron paul ▲ ● ▼		It's just going to give them a lot of grief, especially...
unidentified		Congressman?
		Okay.
		Okay.
		Amen.
		Amen.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Phone system glitch.
		We will get Congressman Ron Paul back on with us in just a moment.
		Tell you, we got gremlins in our phone system or the congressman does.
		I I got a whole host of important questions that I want to ask the Congressman.
		here today.
		And we're going to be going over those here in just a moment with him.
		Like the death of the dollar, the flu situation, Afghanistan, the big Republican wins in New Jersey and Virginia, and a lot more.
unidentified		All right.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And, of course, we will post this archived up at Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.
		OK, Congressman, got you back quickly.
		Thank you.
		Congressman, that is a phone system situation happening, obviously, on their end. - So we will try to get Congressman Ron Paul back on right now.
		In the meantime, we do have Joe Rogan joining us later in studio today and Lawrence J. Kotlikoff.
		He, of course, is a Boston University professor of economics.
		To discuss the McClatchy newspaper article that he was quoted in.
		That we have been discussing.
		Hal Goldman Sachs secretly bet on the US housing crash.
		Okay, maybe three's the charm.
		Congressman, do we have you?
ron paul ▲ ● ▼		I'm back.
ron paul ▲ ● ▼		I don't know what happened.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Gremlins in the House switchboard.
		Okay, you were finishing up with the Fed.
		On monetary policy, Congressman, you've long talked about the central banks using the dollar to prop up the empire.
		Now the G20 is discussing abandoning the dollar.
		What is happening from your research perspective with the dollar right now, and what will happen if the dollar is fully abandoned?
ron paul ▲ ● ▼		I don't think anybody knows right now.
		If they just let it go and the dollar's rejected, then people will have to resort to sound money and they'd have to resort to commodity money.
		But, as you say, the G20 or the IMF and the world leaders, so to speak, are going to try to replace it.
		I think the market has replaced the dollar reserve standard.
		They've gotten rid of that.
		I don't think they can rebuild on that.
		So they are rushing around trying to figure out what they'll replace it with.
		I think what they'll try to do is come up with a basket of currencies.
		They even might be tempted to put a little bit of gold in there, but it's not going to suffice if they don't have even a little bit of gold.
		Even if they come up with another worldwide fiat standard, I don't think it's going to convey trust.
		I think they're behind, they're between the rock and the hard place, and it's not going to be easy for them to push something on us.
		But one thing for sure, I think there's going to be a lot of chaos and I think there's going to be a lot more economic problems and more poverty and more, you know, depression in the world just because of this.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		So just to be clear, you agree with the big economic headlines we've seen the last month that the dollar as the world reserve currency has been abandoned.
		China, India, the European Union, the Arabs are now buying more foreign currencies than they are the dollar.
		They still hold an overall majority of dollars at around 62 to 63 percent.
		But they are now abandoning the dollar as reserve currency.
		A, do you agree with that?
		B, what will this do to our economy?
ron paul ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's going to hurt the economy.
		I wouldn't say it's abandoned, but it's less important all the time.
		I mean, the fact that they can still have 60% reserves means it's still there.
		But the market, I look at the market signals, and I think the thing that happened this week was very, very significant.
		That is when the IMF announces that they're going to dump 200 tons of gold on the market.
		Well, you know, earlier a person was thinking, they were hoping, well, a lot of that gold out there, that's going to drive down the price of gold and make all the fiat currencies look better.
		But what happened?
		A bank from Asia, India, buys the whole lot, which sent a signal, I think, to the world markets that, in essence, Gold has been remonetized.
		It never gets demonetized, but it has less importance as money when all the countries reject it.
		But I think this is a major, major signal that the dollar is getting closer on its last legs, and gold is getting more important.
		And as the Chinese buy less and less, they have already started buying gold.
		And they don't want to buy too much too fast and shoot the price up too quickly.
		But I think that's coming.
		I think the gold price is destined to go a lot higher.
		The dollar is going to go a lot lower.
		And they cannot dethrone gold.
		They can disrupt and play these games for a long, long time.
		But in many ways, this is very, very good because it tells us that the governments no longer can get away with just printing money to finance their schemes.
		It's their schemes that are so damaging to us, whether it's the welfare or the warfare.
		It all hurts the people because they have to pay the bills.
		So some of these things are good signals, although it means that we have to be concerned about the chaos that might erupt.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		Congressman, the private central banks, as you know, are financing the Copenhagen Treaty.
		I have the treaty here in front of me, all 200 pages of the Framework Convention on Climate Change.
		It states, as Ban Ki-moon wrote last week in the New York Times, that this is global governance.
		And that select groups of private interest are going to be able to decide who can have a factory, who can have a business.
		They can decide who's going to get the carbon credits.
		This scheme was designed by Ken Lay, as Congress has reported.
		The Senate committee has now approved the climate bill, as Reuters reports.
		If our economy under globalization and NAFTA and GATT is already sputtering, what's going to happen if we allow the very same central banks to create this new derivative system?
ron paul ▲ ● ▼		Well, if it works, it'll work for a short while, and companies like Goldman Sachs and a few others will rip us off, and they'll, you know, get even more wealth.
		But it cannot help the economy.
		It has to hurt the economy.
		And it can't possibly help the environment, because they're totally off track on that.
		It might turn out to be one of the biggest hoaxes of all history, this whole global warming terrorism that they've been using.
		So, we'll have to just wait and see.
		But it cannot be helpful.
		It's going to hurt everybody.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		What's the inside baseball word in Congress?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Dianne Feinstein and Barbara Boxer say they're going to be able to pass it this year or next year, but more and more evidence on the ground shows that we're going to be able to beat the House and Senate version of the climate bill that is meant to tie into the Copenhagen UN takeover.
ron paul ▲ ● ▼		I think there is a chance, and I think these elections might send a signal.
		I think the continual presence of the Tea Party movement and the people speaking out might wake them up finally, you know, and say, hey, maybe we are doing too much too fast, and they might back off.
		Right now, they're not absolutely positive they have the votes on this medical bill.
		We'll know shortly whether the House will see if they have the vote.
		They think the House can do it faster than the Senate.
		They're going to try to do that on Saturday of this week.
		But they have a few problems.
		It's not automatic, and thank goodness for radio talk shows and the Internet for us to get this information out.
		That's what's rallying the troops.
		It certainly is in the mainstream media.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Speaking of the Internet, we're talking to Congressman Ron Paul.
		We now have the Cybersecurity Act.
		Three days ago, finally, the national security blocked.
		Copyright treaty has now leaked and it says open taxing, open regulation of the web, ICANN being handed over to the UN, total control, guilty until proven innocent, copyright rules, shutting down websites, ISPs, and really UN control over the internet.
		Where do you stand on that, Congressman?
ron paul ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's very frightening, and I think that if they're successful, let's just hope that Internet is too big and too complex for them ever to have controls, but they're making the attempt.
		They would love to put us out of business, but I am hopeful that we don't ever allow it to go that far.
		But they are doing everything in the world to control the Internet, and that to me would A lot of people say it could never happen, it's too big, they never try it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They are stating, on record, the White House, the NSA, repeatedly in the last month, the White House has said we may have to shut the internet off to save it, and during the flu pandemic or other emergency, only let you go to government sites.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's quite a trial balloon by the White House.
ron paul ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and all those authorities are packed in, you know, emergency legislation.
		They don't really have to come to the Congress to do that.
		They do that on occasion just to get a rubber stamp, but there's been so much emergency legislation passed.
		And besides, if it isn't passed, you know what, how much license they take with executive orders and the various procedures that they use.
		So, I know if they claim this is for national security reasons, they just go ahead and do it.
		It's a very dangerous time in which we live.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You're a medical doctor and you've also worked with the Von Mies Institute and received awards from them for your economic understanding.
		And of course this flu situation is economic for the vaccine makers.
		Government gets to have a power grab.
		But you've pointed out that Obama won't give the flu shot to his daughters.
		Now even Time Magazine's reporting the German government military won't take the shot with the squalene or the mercury or the interleukin-2.
		Uh, or any of this.
		So, government's taking one vaccine, the people's getting another.
		Uh, your take on that, Congressman?
ron paul ▲ ● ▼		Well, that always happens that way, and I did see a report after I made that announcement, because he had said it in public, about, uh, Obama's daughters not getting the shot.
		But, uh, since that time, we are told now they have gotten it.
		But you'd wonder whether, which one they got, and whether or not it had the mercury in it or whatnot.
		But, you know, we've done it to our own military personnel.
		You know, in the Persian Gulf War, they got a lot of inoculations and people came back with Persian Gulf War Syndrome.
		It was a combination of chemicals and inoculations.
		So it's, to me though, it's a mixed bag because a lot of people don't want it and they're fighting it and they're being forced to take it.
		And other people get panicked into it and they'll line up for hours and hours and hours waiting it.
		waiting for it as if this was a really, really serious crisis.
		It's a serious disease, and people do die, but even these few, The numbers of people that have died from it, they're significant, but they're very small compared to regular flu.
		And many times the individuals, I think over two-thirds of the children that died so far, had other serious medical problems.
		But the drumbeat for the fear to build up is, to me, it's all done for that reason, for the people to become more obedient and more dependent on the government.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So they're trying to set the precedent for this medical tyranny to force their will on us?
ron paul ▲ ● ▼		I think this is just another attempt.
		I'm sure there are a bunch of people who believe, well no, this is very serious, the medical people have told us this, and this is what we have to do.
		But let's say it was a reasonable thing, you know, to give people shots.
		I think the real message here is, why should the government be in charge of it?
		You know, if they're in charge, there's a shortage.
		The people who don't want it are being forced to take it.
		The people who want it can't get it.
		It's costing a lot of money.
		The other vaccine, regular flu shots, are not available.
		And it's on and on, and right now I saw a chart just a couple days ago that shows that this individual believed that swine flu is going to peak, you know, within another week or two.
		And if it peaks and starts to drop off naturally, that's about the time we're going to have all these flu shots coming in and not have the flu shot that maybe is much more important.
		The point being, why should they be in charge and why should we turn over our health care to these clowns who are trying to distribute, you know, a vaccine?
		So either way, it's just a point that we shouldn't be doing it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		On top of that, all over the country, schools are injecting children, even when their parents say don't do it.
		And the schools are saying, oops, it's an accident.
		Clearly that's premeditated.
		But shifting gears now, we saw Republican wins in New Jersey and Virginia.
		The president's Approval rating when he was first elected up in the 80s, now down in the low 40s.
		But Republicans still, by and large, have low approval ratings, unless they're like yourself, who's actually a constitutionalist.
		We know that in 2010, there's going to be a huge backlash.
		Republicans will take back a lot of seats.
		But if they don't deliver on smaller government and fiscal sound constitutional policies, Then we're going to have a real crisis on our hands, and if we wait to get politically active until 2011 into 2012, so much of this globalization would have already been expanded and submitted.
		I know that this is still off in the future, but LA Times, New York Times, everybody's talking.
		I get calls every day.
		Saying, when is Ron Paul going to announce for 2012?
		Because if you announce early, you can build the coalition, you can get an even more elevated position in the media, you can speak for the people that don't want war, that don't want big government, that don't want banker bailouts.
		If you wait to announce until 2011, after your congressional win coming up, but I guess I'm being presumptive.
		I mean, you're not even saying you're going to announce in 2011.
ron paul ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm still thinking a lot about that right now.
		It just doesn't seem like the best thing to do, even long-term or even on a short-term basis.
		So, I'm just undecided about the whole thing, you know, so I'm not about to say that I'm planning to do one thing or another.
		I think you make some good points, but I think time is still a little bit early to start talking about it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But so much is happening, and if you step up even further, and no one's saying that you haven't done more than anybody else, and start building the coalition now, I'd really, unless there's massive election fraud, I see no way that you could lose the Republican primary.
		I mean, how can we allow a rhino, someone who's not really a constitutionalist, like another McCain, another Mitt Romney, To lead conservatives and libertarians down another rat hole.
		I mean, you are the man for the job.
		And I don't pretend to understand your political strategy.
		I know you're much more intelligent and wise than I am and have more experience.
		It just makes perfect sense for at least sometime in the next six to eight months To announce, but you're saying you're not even sure at this time.
		I mean, even if you didn't win, you would have huge fundraising.
		You'd be able to buy ads.
		You'd be all over the media.
		You'll be the only candidate that will inject real issues.
		I mean, you're the only man for the job.
		I mean, fate and responsibility and destiny says that you are the man for the job.
ron paul ▲ ● ▼		Alex, you have to realize you're not the average Republican primary voter.
		You're a little bit more optimistic about what we might be able to do.
		We still have a lot to contend with when you get involved in partisan politics.
		You followed that stuff that was going on over in Nevada, how they really handle us.
		I think we'll do better if we ever did it again, but, you know, they just closed down the shop if they think you're going to win, so you have a lot of obstacles to overcome.
		But the most important thing, and this is what you've emphasized as well, politics are very important, but also is getting these issues out and talking about the philosophy and why we need it and get the people energized, and that should be ongoing.
		Of course, that's why we keep Campaign for Liberty moving in that direction, because Exactly.
		We've gone from almost no one knowing it's a private cartel to over 75% wanting an audit or for it to be abolished.
		We even talked about the Federal Reserve, and now they can do national polling on the Federal Reserve to get opinion.
		So in that sense, I think we're making progress.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		We've gone from almost no one knowing it's a private cartel to over 75 percent wanting an audit or for it to be abolished.
		It's only a win-win for you to run because it will elevate you.
		It will have you in the debates.
		And I don't see any way you won't run unless you've got medical problems and you're in great shape.
		You look like you're 60, Congressman, and I'm just begging you for millions of other people to kick off the campaign sooner rather than later.
		I want to commend you for helping to get your son to run for the Senate.
		People need to get behind him right now.
		And as you said, The biggest movement now on the universities isn't the burnout fake left or the burnout fake right.
		It is the libertarian, free market, non-collectivist movement that you have helped to grow and energize.
		And you are the omnibudsman of liberty, the leading light for freedom worldwide, as even the Czech president has said.
		And I just want to salute you and thank you.
		In closing, we got 30 seconds.
		Are they going to be able to ram through the government takeover of health care?
ron paul ▲ ● ▼		Oh, they're going to get it through the House, but whether the whole thing gets through, I think they'll get part of it, but not the whole thing.
		So we'll wait and see.
		And we've adapted in this country to incrementalism.
		We never socialize all at once.
		We just take it by pieces and think that we've really resisted something.
		So unfortunately, it's going to get worse rather than better.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Thank you so much, Congressman.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		God bless you.
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unidentified		Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You just got a chance to hear Congressman Ron Paul on with us, though the Capitol switchboard cut though the Capitol switchboard cut him off twice. - Yes.
		I've heard him on other radio shows when that happens.
		They must have somebody in that office.
		A trained guerrilla or something somewhere in the Capitol building that's running the switchboard.
		I could get more conspiratorial and say that they were knocking him off air with us, but that's probably not the case.
		Let's go ahead and take some phone calls right now.
		We've got this economist coming up.
		I've got a bunch of other news I want to hit as well.
		Plus, there's a video clip of Robert Kennedy Jr. on television talking about what vaccines are doing to people.
		And you've got all these Hollywood stars coming out.
		You've got even people like Bill Maher coming out against vaccines.
		You've got the...
		The founder of Smashing Pumpkins coming out against vaccines.
		You've got all these politicians coming out against vaccines.
		It shows how the media and the vaccine cult keeps telling us we're kooks, telling us we're liars, saying there's no mercury, saying it can't brain damage you, we're mentally ill.
		And that's only discrediting them.
		And the momentum has clearly not just shifted against the vaccine pushers.
		But has fully shifted against them.
		It's a route now.
		And that's why you have this attempted hype with a non-pandemic flu strain.
		A flu strain that's very weak compared to the regular seasonal flu.
		That's why you have this incredible hype.
		It's an attempt of them to say, you don't want shots?
		You want to break the precedent and the mind control that you've got to take the Gardasil shot and all these other vaccines and Hepatitis shot?
		Oh yeah, we're going to scare you.
		We're going to hype it.
		We're going to stage artificial scarcity of the vaccine and say we don't have enough of it.
		And stage events where we tell people come down and get the free shot and then we don't have any of it to show people panicking.
		We're going to throw everything we've got at you to try to manipulate you and it's not working.
		Again, the globalists are in trouble on every front.
		75 plus percent of Americans in Gallup polls want it abolished or audited.
		Over 90 percent of Americans want to get rid of NAFTA and GATT.
		Obama had to lie and say he was going to get rid of it to get elected.
		Now he says, I never said that.
		We have that in fall of the republic.
		A lot of good things are happening.
		We're going to go to your phone calls, but let's go ahead and play this Robert Kennedy clip right now.
unidentified		Now, here it is. - The generate, what happened was the vaccine schedule was increased.
		We went up from receiving about 10 vaccines in our generation to these kids received 24 vaccines.
		And they all had this thimerosal, this mercury, and nobody bothered to do an analysis of what the cumulative impact of all that mercury was doing to kids.
		As it turns out, we are injecting our children with 400 times the amount of mercury that FDA or EPA considers safe.
		A child, on his first day that he's born, is injected with a hepatitis B shot.
		Under EPA guidelines, he would have to be 275 pounds to safely absorb that shot.
		And yet, we're just constantly pumping our kids with these vaccines.
		Where's the federal government on this?
		What happened was that in 1988, One in every 2,500 American children had autism.
		Today, one in every 166 children have autism.
		And plus, one in six children have other kinds of learning disorders, other kinds of neurological disorders, speech delay, language disorders, ADD, hyperactivity, that all seem to be connected, that are all connected.
		The science shows are all connected to autism.
		You know, Bobby, we've always found...
		You and I could debate a thousand different issues, whether it's Terry Schiavo or the environment.
		I think we'd agree on the environment.
		But in this case, you've got the federal government coming and saying, well, there's no really, there's no good science.
		And of course, in politics, science always gets diluted.
		Why hasn't the federal government stepped up?
		And it worked more, because listen, Bobby, I can't prove it tonight, you can't prove it, but intuitively, you look at the spike, you look at what happened with the Marisol, there is no doubt in my mind, maybe it's two years from now, maybe it's five years from now, maybe it's ten years from now, we're gonna find out that the Marisol Causes, in my opinion, ought to... You know what?
		The science is out there today, for anybody who bothers to read it, and I have read it.
		Actually, on my website this week, robertfkennedyjr.com, I'm publishing an article that goes through all of the science.
		But the science is clear, and what happens is, I read the science at first, and there's literally hundreds and hundreds of studies that connect thimerosal to, you know, to these disastrous neurological disorders.
		Then I went, I talked to the scientists, then I went and I talked to the federal bureaucrats who are defending thimerosal, and I said, what are you relying on?
		And I looked at the science they're relying on, and I can tell you, Joe, it is so weak, and you and I have seen, you know, legal practice with junk science, and we know, you know, what these phony scientists are who create this...
		It happens in big oil.
		It's happening in global warming.
		And now it's happening in a way that's impacting our kids' lives.
		This is classic tobacco science.
		It is junk science.
		And I was looking at these reports and saying, this is the best.
		This is what you're relying on.
		They know it's fraudulent.
		And now we have the transcripts.
		Explain it to me, Bobby, okay?
		I mean, explain it to me, if that's the case.
		You and I both know about politics, obviously.
		Politicians like to get re-elected.
		Why are they sitting back, if our children are being poisoned, if the science is there, why are they sitting back and letting our children be poisoned?
		Because the same regulatory bureaucrats that green-lighted Flint-Marisol originally are now trying to cover their tracks.
		It's a CYA operation.
		Right, and they're working with the pharmaceutical industry and we now have the transcripts of this secret meeting that they did in Simpsonwood, Georgia in the year 2000, and it's the most horrifying thing that you can read, Joe.
		There are scientists there from the government who are reading the reports and saying, this is undeniable, there's no... Absolutely.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		What is Robert Kennedy Jr.
		talking about?
		In 2000, and it's happened several other times, Congressman Use congressional power to force CDC to release secret documents to them.
		And then several congressmen who have brain-damaged children and grandchildren released it.
		Even though they weren't supposed to.
		This was classified.
		And it was the heads of the CDC and the scientists saying, I wouldn't give it to my grandchildren or my kids.
		We've brain-damaged millions.
		And they say, well we gotta continue it.
		We can't admit That we know this does this, or we'll all go to prison.
		Now, they then, when that all came out in 2002, the documents were from 2000, but it took two years for it to come out.
		It was even on ABC Nightly News.
		Since then, They've lied and said the mercury was taken out.
		Ladies and gentlemen, under federal regulations, vaccine makers are supposed to, they don't always do this, make a small amount of non-mercury vaccines.
		So that's all that happens.
		Yes, are there vaccines without mercury?
		Can the news hold up an insert of a vaccine that might be 1% of that type of vaccine that's out there?
		It's even less than that in the studies I've seen.
		Can you, if you're Andrea Merkel of Germany, or Gordon Brown of England, or Barack Obama and his daughters of USA, can you get one that doesn't have mercury?
		Yes.
		Can you go to an office and order it?
		If you know what to ask for, they can order it, you can come back a week later and be shot up with it.
		It's still got the cancer viruses.
		It's still got the RNA.
		It's still got the aluminum.
		It's still all these foreign... Because it's not just the viruses they're breeding up on caterpillar eggs and baby retinas and dog kidneys or monkey kidneys.
		That's the main things they use.
		Even most of the vaccine you hear about that's grown on eggs, the original virus for the original sample, the seed stock, is grown in tissue.
		And then it's brought over and put in eggs.
		But it's growing the same thing.
		You know, I mean, if I grow squash plants in a greenhouse, and then take those plant seeds out of the greenhouse, and go plant them out in the field, or up against a fence row next year, it's the same squash.
		You understand that?
		It's the same watermelons.
		It's the same blueberries.
		It's the same thing.
		It's just they're children.
		But the exact same genetics.
		And they know this.
		They know this.
		They know this.
		And everyone is waking up now.
		Literally, the vast majority, over 70% in U.S.
		polls, think it's bad and don't want it.
		But the media goes out and interviews 20, 30, 40, 50 people until they find the one person that will say they like it, and they put them on the news.
		That's who they put on the news.
		That's who they push.
		And let me give you the newsflash.
		Four years ago, the Associated Press told the truth and reported, and the article said, we don't know why, that all the major vaccine makers for hepatitis, for flu, for MMR, increased mercury.
		They didn't just put it back in, they increased it, not one fold, Not double, not triple, not quadruple.
		Five times what the mercury was before.
		So before, it was 400 times the safe level of mercury in an average one year round of shots for a five year old.
		400 times for their body weight.
		It's not quite as bad with an adult.
		Just like a big guy can drink more beer and not get drunk.
		But for a child, imagine a newborn baby giving three shots at birth.
		Then six months later, five more shots.
		Then when they're 18 months, more shots.
		So, I see these fake studies by the media, and they're always deceptive.
		Five minutes, you can prove they're a lie.
		The only study shows kids are still getting autism, even though mercury's out of the shots!
		But then you go read the study.
		The study was done with regular vaccines.
		I mean, ladies and gentlemen, they lie, and they lie, and they lie, and they lie, and they lie, and they lie.
		But the good news here is, on the Federal Reserve, or on vaccines, or on the war, or on warrantless wiretapping, or the police state, in every poll, the majority, way over 70%, aren't against all this.
	We're the people.
	This is our country.
	You can't make us do all this.
	So the good news is the momentum is shifting.
	So the establishment is firing everything they've got at us in an attempt to make us capitulate.
	And it's not going to work.
	The police aren't bad.
	Most of the FBI people aren't bad.
	Most of them are investigating bank robberies and kidnappings.
	It's that higher-up group that are bad.
	Most people in banking aren't bad.
	They're just giving you a home loan.
	It's the big bankers up at the top.
	Most people in Congress aren't bad, they're just corrupt and whores and competitive, so they sell out to be in power.
	We have to get the message out about how bad this is if we continue along this line.
	Now listen, I'm going to come back in the next segment, the segment after that, and get through this bank of callers.
	Have your questions and comments ready.
	Woody, Malcolm, Raul, Eric, Derek, and Hawaii and others.
	But I wanted to bring Ted Anderson up, and tomorrow I'm going to fish the clip out and play it.
	Ron Paul said they tried to kill gold.
	It didn't work.
	And that's what Mainstream News is reporting.
	They put hundreds of billions of dollars.
	In fact, I have the Reuters article in my stack.
	Ted can fill us in on it.
	Hundreds of billions of dollars.
	What was it?
	A $200 billion buy?
	They dumped this gold on the market, leveraged its trillions, thinking it would drive it down from above $1,000.
	Instead, it shot up to $1,099.
	And you heard it from Ron Paul, who's an economist, not just a medical doctor, saying they're going to lose the war on gold.
	He believes it's only going to go up.
	I don't know.
	But all the smart money is on it going up.
	And at least as the dollar plunges and G20 meets to do it fully, they can't kill gold because it's real.
	They may be able to drive it down for a while, doesn't look like that, but it will always beach ball back up, like pushing a beach ball to the bottom of the pool.
	Ted, take us out to break.
	With what Ron Paul was saying earlier about gold, and then today's gold offer.
	Ted Anderson of Minus Resources.
unidentified		Well, Alex, they've been playing those tricks, I mean, going all the way back to the middle 1980s.
ted anderson ▲ ● ▼		We went to our market peak in 1980, where gold hit $800 an ounce, silver hit $50 an ounce, and then it started backing off down into 1982.
		The central banks of the world, unitedly, had tried to suppress the market price of gold and keep it below $400 an ounce for the longest time.
		Anybody that wants to have information on that can find it.
		It's not like it's hidden.
unidentified		You can go right over to g-a-t-a, or gata, dot o-r-g.
		That's g-a-t-a dot o-r-g.
		Now, the latest thing is, I mean, they do postings up there for just, you know, just recently as well.
ted anderson ▲ ● ▼		And honestly, I mean, that's what I mean when I say that when the gold prices drop down and I'm able to buy in those dips, usually most of the time that is occurring here in the New York market.
		And the reason why it's happening is because the Federal Reserve System has such a heavy interest in seeing the United States dollar stay strong and gold stay suppressed.
		See, it's the game of the fiat currency makers is to try to keep you out of anything that it stands in the way of their profit-making machine.
		And I have to say that it is one insidious profit-making machine because they have legal tender laws pointing at them that allows them to create the currency of the nation And they lend it to us and we have to service interest on that debt.
		Now you have to realize what that means.
		I mean, what has our country been doing here for the last at least 30 years is deficit spending.
		So where does deficit spending, who does it help and who does it hurt?
		Well, the United States people have to go into debt to get the currency, and you can see that the United States government has done nothing but deficit spending and put the taxpayers on the hook for even more and more and more of their hard-earned wages, and that money eventually filters right back up to this elite banking system.
		And they have control of the world.
		I mean, when Bill Clinton was in office, he would be telling you that this is going to happen in the economy and that and so on and so forth.
		It was one of the few surpluses that we ever ran.
		But back then, the United States people were going so far into debt that the government didn't have to.
		You know, there just has never been a time since 1913 that the United States of America has been able to enjoy prosperity without having the equivalent increase in the debt.
unidentified		And so it just puts people on the hook, you know, to such an extreme, it's ridiculous.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And we have the very parasites that have engineered this, not getting in trouble, but getting even more power now.
ted anderson ▲ ● ▼		They're getting the bailout money, Alex.
ted anderson ▲ ● ▼		We're having to even go further into this to give them the bailout money.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Which isn't bailout money.
		They're using that to not loan and buy up real assets, and they're bragging about it.
		It's come out in McClatchy newspapers that Goldman Sachs secretly bet on the U.S.
		housing crash to bring down their competitors.
		I mean, this is a criminal group.
		Ted, tell folks, do you still have gold that you bought in the 920 market as it's up at Let me say it this way, Alex.
		Hold on just a second.
		I was getting the numbers wrong there because I end up talking so fast.
		You need to get that number right.
		You still have gold at the $1,020 level of when you bought into the market with it now up at $1,090.
unidentified		Yeah, that's exactly what it is.
ted anderson ▲ ● ▼		That's the way to say it truthfully.
		I have Frank's currently right now at $238.
		I have British Sovereign's at $293.
		I have Walking Liberty Haves right now at $8.69.
		And I'm also carrying the Lakota Nation Rounds at $22.30.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		All right, stay there, Ted.
		Because I was just thinking back to two weeks ago when it was at $9-something.
		Again, $1,020 is now a super low that Ted bought it, and it's up at $1,090.
		I mean, just getting my mind wrapped around that.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You heard Ron Paul earlier saying that he believes gold is only going to continue to explode upward.
		The IMF sells billions and billions in gold, trying to drive it down like they've done the last few years.
		It explodes.
		And I believe Ron Paul's right.
		They are failing.
		Well, they admit they're failing to drive it down.
		Ted, again, tell people the offer you've got.
		So you've almost run out of gold you bought at the $1,020 level.
		That sounds high, but it's actually low.
		And it's up at $1,090 right now, pushed up to $1,099 yesterday.
		Fire out the number for folks that want to call and talk to the brokers and order some silver and gold coins at great prices.
unidentified		Yeah, the number's 1-800-686-2237.
unidentified		Again, it's 1-800-686-2237, and Ron Paul's exactly right.
ted anderson ▲ ● ▼		They create these little opportunities for me to buy gold low.
		They sell their gold, they try to suppress it, they're trying to keep people away from gold, but they are losing in that battle.
		And the reason is because the world wants to get away from the dollar.
		So every time they start selling, the rest of the world starts buying.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Because they want to get rid of their dollars and grab up the gold.
		This has always worked in the past for them.
		It's not working now.
		Folks, the globalists are obsessed with gold and silver.
		You need to get involved.
		800-686-2237. 800-686-2237.
		I'm real happy that the market's allowing me to do that, so you bet we'll hold it right through midnight.
		this offer.
		Is anything perfect?
		No, but it's as close as a silver bullet as you're going to get is silver and gold.
		800-686-2237.
		One more time, 800-686-2237.
		And the brokers can hold those deals until midnight again to Ted?
ted anderson ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely.
		I'm real happy that the markets allow me to do that.
		So you bet we'll hold it right through midnight.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, Ted Anderson.
		All right, let's go ahead now and go to Woody in Illinois.
		What's Woody, thanks for holding.
		Go ahead.
unidentified		Hey Alex, how are you doing today?
		I just wanted to compliment you on your program to enlighten the general public on the plans of the global elitist to exterminate our population.
		I've been doing my own research and I'd like everybody to look up HR 8791.
		Uh, it's a house appropriations bill.
		It's uh, it's on YouTube.
		You can pull it up.
		You can see the representative from Pennsylvania talk about it.
		And just about every other word out of his mouth as he's reading this bill is the word classified.
		And it's Homeland Security Funding Appropriations Bill.
		And it's designed in the event of some type of attack.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		All right, let me stop you.
		Let me stop you.
		There are real executive orders, Presidential Decision Directive 51, John Warner Defense Authorization Act.
		But what The Onion did is they, right after that broke last year, and real congressmen went to the floor and said basically what The Onion video says The Onion newspaper puts out fake news.
		They almost copied it word for word and put the Onion on it to discredit it.
		So that's not real.
		But, in the Obama deception, we have the real clips.
		Yes, I do.
		Love them talking about that.
		So I get these calls every week now, and people put flu executive order on it, again, to fool people.
		Look at the lower right-hand corner.
		There's an Onion there.
		Do you know about the Onion newspaper?
unidentified		Yes, I do.
unidentified		Yes.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And you're not bad, Woody.
		They just fooled you.
		This is the type of diabolical crap they do, and I appreciate your call.
		Here we have John Warner Defense Authorization Act, PDD-51 for martial law, the president to become a dictator.
		All these real congressmen, Senator Inhofe, all these real people, Congressman Domenici coming out about it, talking about real things.
		And then all anyone talks about is the Onion with its fake headlines.
		And that's what COINTELPRO does.
		I'm not saying the onions COINTELPRO, but they might as well get a paycheck from the government.
		Because now, anytime you talk about martial law legislation that's public, no one will look at it.
		They'll pull the onion up, throw it right in your face.
		That's how Black Ops works.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		What the establishment does when they're really putting trips on the streets or really setting up FEMA camps or any other issue is they put out fake stories to then discredit all the real ones.
		That's what Glenn Beck does.
		I'm not attacking Glenn Beck, it's just a fact he does it.
		That's how he discredited FEMA camps, even though they're all admitted.
		Let's go to Malcolm in Texas.
		Malcolm, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi Alex, how you doing?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Good.
unidentified		I saw your film, Follow the Republic.
		Loved it.
		Sent copies out to friends and relatives.
		Two people were shocked by it.
		Got no other responses, but overall, it was a great, great film.
		Loved it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, thank you.
unidentified		Sure.
		I have a question for you.
		I was hoping to ask Ron Paul this, because this sort of concerned him.
		In 1966, Alan Greenspan wrote an article when he was with Anne Rand's Secret Society.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And it was republished, and it was republished in a compendium book she put out where he talked about gold, put down the Federal Reserve, and that's why they came and then hired Greenspan away.
unidentified		Right.
		Well, the story, I've heard this in the 1980s.
		I was, many years ago, studied economics and stuff.
		I've heard stories, I'm not sure it's true, hoping you could verify this, and also I was actually hoping Ron Paul could verify this.
		Ron Paul got an actual copy of the original treatise that Greenspan wrote and got him to autograph it, and when he asked him if he believed in it, after he autographed it, Greenspan looked at him in the eye and said, absolutely, I would not change a single word in it.
		And my question was, I mean, I've heard this in the 1980s, and I'm not sure if it's true, and you can probably disagree with me.
		But is it possible that with Alan Greenspan being appointed by Ronald Reagan, who was pro-gold standard when he was, before he got shot by Hinckley and stuff, is it possible that Alan Greenspan, his whole mess that he created, the incredible inflation he generated, the removal of Glass-Steagall, all of that, is it possible that he was trying to force us to go back to the gold standard, kicking and screaming, like he said he was going to do when he was with Ayn Rand's little group?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, the problem is the bankers wouldn't have put him in if he was some secret operative of somebody else.
		I mean, we know that Greenspan was just the chairman of the Fed.
		That's really a front organization.
		The real power is the chairman of the New York Fed.
		And really, it's just speculation.
		I judge a tree by its fruits.
		In the 70s, Greenspan went over to the dark side.
		And so we know he's bad.
		But certainly big central banks have been hoarding gold, and they are talking about having a final global currency, as Ron Paul said last hour, that is partially gold-backed, because they're going to be holding all the gold.
		That's why I differ a bit with Ron Paul about trying to go back to gold, and he's even said you can't do it automatically, because it's all held predominantly, some individuals have small amounts, but it's held predominantly by the elites.
		That's why we protect ourselves by getting gold and silver.
		But it is true.
		I mean, I don't need to ask Greenspan of a minute.
		He wrote it.
		He criticized the Federal Reserve.
		He called for a gold standard.
		He criticized Fractional Reserve Banking.
		I've read the essay.
		So that's basically it.
unidentified		I've always heard that Ayn Rand's secret group, one of their missions, and he was a big worshipper of Ayn Rand at the time, one of their big missions Yeah, what if?
		to get rid of the Federal Reserve, bring back gold as our current, as our money, and to bring back true economic freedom by any means necessary.
		And, yeah, I've heard the argument that Alan Greenspan went to the dark side and so forth, but what if there was some secret agenda all along and he just, this was like a big act?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, what if, what if, what if Santa Claus is real?
		I mean, I think there's a lot better chance that what you're saying is true than if Santa Claus and the elves are real.
		It's just, I don't do a lot of speculating.
		I sit here and I cover the facts.
		We need to get rid of the Federal Reserve, get the Congress back under control of monetary policy.
		And I don't believe we should go back to a pure gold standard because that could be manipulated.
		We need monetary control and education of the public and to get rid of fractional reserve banking.
		Thank you.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We have Lawrence J. Kotlikoff, Professor of Economics, Boston University, Research Associate in the National Bureau of Economic Research, President, Economic Security Planning, Inc.
		Joining us today, we're honored to have him, and tomorrow and throughout next week, we're having the different economists on to get their different perspectives and views from this article.
		Because this is the best article I've read, putting it all in context from the scores of economists and federal regulators, former federal regulators we've had on, like Professor Black and many others here on this syndicated radio broadcast.
		But the article is McClatchy, a newspaper syndicated by Greg Gordon, how Goldman secretly bet on the U.S.
		housing crash.
		And the findings of the reporter, who's an award-winning reporter, formerly of the New York Times, is...
		And he got a lot of secret prospectuses and memorandums from Goldman Sachs that are quoted here.
		This is some explosive stuff.
		That they secretly bet against housing stocks, knowing they were going to go under, and that they wanted to do this in part for huge profits, but to also destroy Bear Stearns in competition.
		They had their key people in revolving doors in federal regulatory positions, from Treasury to the Federal Reserve, everywhere.
		So an inside job and the article is just so important.
		I've been talking about it since nine days ago, ten days ago, when it came out.
		Not this Sunday, but last Sunday.
		And quoted in here, Professor Kotlikoff says, The Securities and Exchange Commission should be very interested in any financial company that secretly decides a financial product is a loser and then goes out and actively markets the product, or a very similarly product, to unsuspecting customers without disclosing its true opinion, said Lawrence Kotlikoff, a Boston University economics professor who's proposed a massive overhaul of the nation's banks.
		This is fraud and should be prosecuted.
		Now he's saying in here, if this writer's research is correct, Uh, and from all the other people we've had on in the internal documents, it looks like it is.
		Uh, so, uh, it's great to have you on with us, Professor.
larry kotlikoff ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you know, I, I, uh, the statement, this is fraud and should be prosecuted, uh, I think I said, if this turns out to be the case, it is fraud.
		I didn't say this is fraud.
		I wasn't referring to what they actually, we don't, I don't know for sure that Goldman actually violated any securities laws and, uh, uh, I don't know that they didn't, so that's all I can say.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you're saying, what Greg Gordon's saying at McClatchy, and this guy's got a great record, if what you're saying is true, and I don't think McClatchy would let him run with this if there wasn't a lot of, where there's smoke, there's fire, but regardless, you're saying if this is true, it's fraud.
larry kotlikoff ▲ ● ▼		What he alleges sounds like fraudulent behavior, I think, or at least some form of financial malfeasance.
		You just don't sell things to people where you're saying they're X and they're actually Y.
		That's one of the major problems associated with this entire financial debacle, which is we've had people selling snake oil and claiming that it was great for your health, claiming it was penicillin when it was actually snake oil making people sick, financially speaking. claiming it was penicillin when it was actually snake oil So we need to have a brand-new financial system.
		That's what I call for in my... I've got a book that's coming out in March with Wiley called Jimmy Stewart is Dead.
		And it talks about how to fix the financial system from bottom up very simply, which is to make all the financial companies, corporations, operate as pass-through mutual fund companies, just like Fidelity Investments or TI Cref.
		many large financial mutual fund companies.
		And those companies are the only part of the financial system that's still standing because they weren't borrowing money to engage in risky gambles and leave the taxpayer to pay the bill.
		So what they were doing is just intermediating.
		They were taking in money into their mutual funds and then buying the kinds of assets that those investors in the mutual funds wanted to hold.
		So that's the way we need to run our financial system on the basis of mutual funds.
		And by the way, I'm not employed by any mutual fund company or anything like that.
		So this is just my own view.
		And many other economists are coming around to this view.
		And some top government officials in different countries are coming around to this view.
		So it's the way to really run our modern financial system without Going back to 1930, which we can't return to.
		The reason the book's title is Jimmy Stewart is Dead is that you can't go back to that kind of environment.
		And you're not going to have trustworthy bankers.
		We've seen that for sure.
		So you need to have a new system that makes sure that we can't be taken, that the public can't be taken for the ride.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, Larry, they can take your proposal or other similar proposals.
		The problem is Goldman Sachs and other top investment groups and brokerage firms and investment banks have their people at every level in almost every regulatory position in government and quasi-government position.
		And so they can selectively enforce any rules they want.
		In fact, we're hearing about this new bank of the world that'll have regulatory power and it'll knock heads to stop, you know, these types of abuses.
		But the people that are going to be knocking the heads are a bunch of Goldman Sachs goons.
larry kotlikoff ▲ ● ▼		Well, let's not call them goons, because we don't know.
		They're people just like we are.
		Let's not cast aspersions to these people.
		We don't know.
		Wall Street is a term that refers to not just that part of New York City, but all parts of the financial system worldwide.
		You've had people in Singapore bring down a Baring Bank, which was about a 400-year-old bank.
		There was a French rogue trader brought down Societe Generale, almost destroyed the third-largest bank in France.
		So, this is a global problem, and it's true that the financial community isn't going to like what I have to say when they hear about it.
		On the other hand, they're not going to like what they're going to get hit with Well, I want to go over that, but from your research, Professor, who are the bad guys?
		I mean, Bill Clinton got rid of Glass-Steagall.
		The Congress went along with it.
		different firms, probably including Goldman Sachs.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, I want to go over that, but from your research, Professor, who are the bad guys?
		I mean, Bill Clinton got rid of Glass-Steagall.
		The Congress went along with it.
larry kotlikoff ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's a variety of problems here.
		There's basically a fundamental moral hazard problem here where financial companies are playing poker with the taxpayers' chips.
		That's the fundamental problem here, which is that they're going to the casino with our money.
		So there's that problem.
		There's the too-big-to-fail problem.
		There's the fact that the companies are being run by the management, not by the shareholders, because the shareholders are dispersed.
		It's a corporate governance problem.
		There's a fraud problem, which is that people left, right, and center were issuing mortgages and lying about the income and not verifying the collateral values.
		So liar mortgages should not exist.
		And they're going to continue.
		And the rating companies were, in effect, being effectively bribed by the people that they were paying for the ratings.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So systemic fraud across the board.
larry kotlikoff ▲ ● ▼		The whole system is basically corrupt, and I think that's a fair statement, and we have to come up with a system that's foolproof, that has firewalls, that doesn't
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, how are a bunch of Goldman Sachs former executives and heads... I mean, Reuters had an article today pointing out almost everybody who isn't former Goldman Sachs in power positions over regulatory systems.
		I mean, it's hard to name a number one person, a number one man or woman in a power position who isn't Goldman Sachs or a former director.
		I mean, you go over the list, it just goes on and on.
		And I want to read to you, Professor, out of this article, which says, It says, McClatchy inquiry found that Goldman Sachs bought and converted into high-yield bonds tens of thousands of mortgages from some prime lenders that became the subjects of FBI investigations and whether they misled borrowers or exaggerated applicants' incomes in justifying making McClatchy inquiry found that Goldman Sachs bought and converted into high-yield bonds
		It says, the piece together, Goldman's role in the subprime meltdown, McClatchy reviewed hundreds of documents, SEC filings, copies of secret investment circulars, lawsuits, and interviewed numerous people familiar with the firm's activities.
		Okay, okay.
		I get the point, but you've got to realize that those statements, you know, Greg's making statements that are general statements.
		worldwide, including European and Asian banks, often in secret deals run through the Cayman Islands and British territory of Caribbean that companies use to bypass U.S. disclosure.
larry kotlikoff ▲ ● ▼		Okay, okay.
		I get the point, but you've got to realize that those statements, you know, Greg's making statements that are general statements.
		They may be quite true.
		They may not be fully true.
		Who knows?
		But those statements can be made of virtually every major company that's gotten into trouble.
		They all had offshore operations.
		They were all engaged in one level or another in marketing securities whose underlying truths were not as disclosed.
		They weren't disclosing fully.
		They may not have known themselves whether the statements on these mortgage applications were true or not.
		We know that the whole system did not work.
		I think we have to stop handing out, shelling out money to these big companies.
		I mean, what can we do now?
		We know what's happened.
		What can we do at the margin to fix things?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay, I want to hear what your idea is to fix it, but also I want to go back and say, okay, what would you have done in November?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, in September, October, November of last year, instead of saying, here's all these trillions of dollars.
larry kotlikoff ▲ ● ▼		I would have said, what's the fundamental problems here?
		The fundamental problem is non-disclosure.
		It's a fraud, so let's have a, and the rating was not to be trusted, so let's set up a federal financial authority to rate and, not rate itself, but to arrange for independent rating and verification and full disclosure on the web of All the securities held by, uh, that are being traded in the marketplace.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that would, that would be a big thing, just to have transparency.
larry kotlikoff ▲ ● ▼		Transparency, that's step one.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Step two is... Stay there, Professor.
		Professor, we got a break.
		We'll come back on the other side and get your, your view and perspective on this.
		Amazing article out of McClatchy.
		They got a lot of guts.
		We'll be right back.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Until about 40 after, Professor Lawrence J. Kotlikoff is our guest.
		Professor of Economics, Boston University.
		Got a book coming out with a great title, Jimmy Stewart is Dead.
		Boy, is he.
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		Going back to our guest.
		Okay, so sir, tell us what you think should have happened last year instead of the looting and giving more power to the very banks and regulators that swindled us.
larry kotlikoff ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		We need to set up a system that's simple, transparent, and safe for public use.
		And this current system is not, and we are spending our way into what could be a huge problem, hyperinflation potentially.
		The potential is really quite substantial for things to get out of control.
		The way to get to safety is you set up a federal, a single federal regulatory body, not 115 or 20, which is what we are.
		We now have about 115.
		The President's been calling for about another five or so.
		You know, none of these guys could shoot straight to see the problem.
		And what we just need is to have a system set up that can't fail like the current system has.
		So you set up a federal regulator to disclose, verify, rate, and provide all this information about the securities.
		And then you transform all the financial corporations into pass-through mutual fund companies so No bank can actually, under this proposal, which is called Limited Purpose Banking, can actually borrow money to invest in risky securities.
		What they can do is they can set up mutual funds for us to invest in.
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		We have to realize that a third of our financial system already is really the mutual fund industry.
		They hold about $12 trillion in assets.
		So the glass is plenty full with respect to mutual fund companies being able to intermediate between lenders and borrowers and between savers and investors.
		So the idea is not just to turn banks into mutual funds, past-through mutual fund companies that are never in a net-exposed position where they're never if you're not borrowing to invest in risky assets, you can never go under because of a decline past-through mutual fund companies that are never in a net-exposed position where they're never if you're You're just not exposed.
		So we're talking about zero net exposure of the banking system.
		But we're also talking about the insurance industry being treated identically as banks because insurance companies As we've seen, are engaged in the same kind of security transactions that are banks.
		You can't really tell the difference between a financial instrument and an insurance policy.
		They're very similar, essentially identical financial instruments.
		So, what we need to do is make the insurance companies run as passenger mutual fund companies as well.
		But Professor, let me ask you this then.
		What is the plan or what looks like the dominant re-regulation that's being set up now?
		by CDS securities through mutual funds.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But, Professor, let me ask you this then.
		What is the plan or what looks like the dominant re-regulation that's being set up now?
		Because from what I've read in the newspapers, I'm not trying to pick on the precious Goldman Sachs here, but even Reuters has pointed out they are the most represented in government and in the regulatory system, with Henry Paulson getting up and admitting that it's not a conflict of interest with Henry Paulson getting up and admitting that it's not a conflict of interest because the Treasury Department gave him a waiver to be involved with Goldman Sachs while he was giving billions to Goldman Sachs
larry kotlikoff ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no, this is like a revolving door, and this is not...
		This is not arm's length.
		This is a conflict of interest.
		It's also a confluence of interest.
		This is fundamentally corrupt.
		I don't think Paulson himself is fundamentally corrupt.
		I think he was a very good public servant.
		He tried his best.
		I think he did the wrong thing in the end.
		Or he did some steps, but not the right other steps.
		He has like $300 million.
		He doesn't necessarily have to worry about whether Goldman Sachs is going to like him at the margin.
		So I think we've got to be careful about ascribing motives to individuals who are in a position of trying to save a country they thought was going down the tubes.
		But the real thing is, how do we get a system set up so that Wall Street can influence Pennsylvania Avenue?
		And there's no, you know, whether or not the guys from Pennsylvania having to go back to Wall Street to work, they're not actually going to be changing the financial system in somebody's favor.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Let's talk more about where the regulation is going versus what you're saying is a good idea.
		And how do we get rid of these derivatives?
		Or is there a place in your plan for derivatives?
		And will anybody ever get in trouble from Goldman Sachs and JPMorgan Chase at the revolving door with a fellow deserved?
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Next down we're in studio Joe Rogan, host of Ultimate Fighting, Comedy Central, you name it, giving us his view on the world today.
		Professor of Economics, Boston University, Lawrence J. Kotlikoff is our guest.
		Okay, we've got about seven minutes left, sir.
larry kotlikoff ▲ ● ▼		Are you asking about whether the current solution being proposed by the administration is the right way to go?
		No, I think it's just spending a lot of money and maintaining the current structure.
		I think it's putting us at grave risk.
		We could have, really, literally, a run on the bank tomorrow.
		After that, print trillions of dollars to cover all the liabilities, and then there would be high inflation that would most likely break out.
		And then people who didn't run would find that they got their money back, but it was worth nothing in terms of what they could buy with it.
		So there's this myth out there that we actually have purchasing power deposit insurance.
		We just have money deposit insurance, and it's not really going to protect us.
		From the hyperinflation that might result from a run of the bank.
		So we're in very great risk.
		We have to get to a safe financial structure.
		We can't go back to 1930.
		We need to have these new products, derivatives.
		They're not the problem.
		The problem is that it's not that coming up with a new form of pain relief is a problem, a new pill like a Tylenol.
		When that was developed, that wasn't the problem.
		The problem is that when you have somebody putting cyanide in a Tylenol bottle and marketing it as Tylenol, that's when you have a problem.
		And that happened in the 70s.
		Exactly that happened.
		And Johnson & Johnson spent like $100 million taking all the Tylenol and repackaging it in safety sealed containers.
		We need to have a bulletproof system where the government says if you're going to buy this security, you can check exactly what it is so you know what you're buying.
		We need to make sure that the banks are just playing middlemen and they're not trying to play poker with our chips.
		And we need to just transform the entire financial corporate system, including the insurance companies, into passenger mutual fund companies and run all the business through mutual funds.
		And so for an example, if you think about CDS derivative security, that's really just an insurance policy against a particular bond going broke, going defaulting.
		So, you can have an insurance company set up a mutual fund where people invest money and they, in effect, take a position when they put their money down on whether or not IBM would default on its debt over the course of the year.
		The money is all put into a pot at the beginning of the year.
		It's invested in Treasury bills, one of your Treasury bills.
		And then a year later, you see whether or not IBM defaulted on its debt.
		If it did, the ones who bet that way get the pot less the fee.
		If it doesn't, the ones who bet the other way get the pot less the fee.
		So this kind of betting on whether a company defaults or whether the mortality rate of the economy exceeds some number or whether You have the gross domestic product grow by 5% or 2%.
		All these kinds of bets that people should be allowed to make with each other for good economic reasons can arise safely in this system that I'm talking about, limited purpose banking.
		And if you think about it, that kind of an insurance arrangement is really a paramutual betting arrangement, which we see at the racetrack every day of the year.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But that's not a completely rigged system, so the big central banks and the mega brokerage firms aren't going to want it.
		As you said, that's not the plan they're going with.
		You brought up the dollar.
		The G20 is openly discussing how to move away from the dollar.
		The dollar is dropping.
larry kotlikoff ▲ ● ▼		We need to adopt what I'm proposing.
		To look at this idea, which is limited purpose banking, the book will be out in March, but in the short run, there are columns I've written in the New Republic, Bloomberg, Forbes, the FT, all on my website.
		People can read these pieces that have been written in the Dallas Morning News, Boston Globe.
		So, this idea about how to fix the financial system is very simple, and other economists are independently coming up with the same idea.
		So it is a real solution.
		It's the only comprehensive solution that anyone's really advanced in the public forum here.
		And I think once the public gets behind it, you know, it may conflict with Wall Street's interests in the short run, but I think over time they'll be in better shape if they go along with this, because the alternative may be that they're going to be babysat in ways they don't like.
		But paying people hundreds of millions of dollars for running companies into the ground, that wouldn't happen under what I'm proposing.
		The bankers would run the mutual funds, and if they did poorly, they'd get paid, you know, they wouldn't be able to charge very high fees.
		If they did well, they'd be able, over time, to charge higher fees.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So an actual free market, but that's not a rigged casino, so they don't want that.
		So it doesn't look like we're going to get that, but after another crash, maybe we'll get something like your solution.
		On the current course, in closing, give us your website, and then in the current course, where do you see us going?
		Where do you see us going on the current course?
larry kotlikoff ▲ ● ▼		On the current cost, of course, I see this is very dicey, what we're doing here.
		The government has issued about $24 trillion worth of commitments to pay off things under certain circumstances.
		We don't have time for me to list them all, but that number actually comes from the government itself.
		If there's a major event that people get panicked again, we could see runs on the banks, runs on the insurance companies.
		There's cash to render values to the tune of about $3 trillion out there that people can run and try and get their cash in their insurance policies, because I think the insurance company is going to go under.
		You could have this is what exactly what the Treasury and the Fed were so concerned about, Paulson and Bernanke, when they were really pulling out their hairs, remaining hairs, about what could happen.
		We have to get our system out of that position where we can have systemic, colossal financial failure.
		We're still there.
		We're in worse shape, actually, than we were a year ago in terms of that risk.
		We've got to move away from that, and limited purpose banking is the way to do it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Professor Larry Kotlikoff, thank you for joining us.
		What's the best one-stop shop website to find out about your economic perspective?
larry kotlikoff ▲ ● ▼		Oh, mine would be my website.
larry kotlikoff ▲ ● ▼		It's people.bu.edu slash kotlikoff.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Or just Google Larry Kotlikoff.
		People can find a lot of your work.
		I look forward to reading the book when it comes out.
		Thanks for spending time with us.
		You bet.
		Okay, wanted to give you some economic perspective from a mainstream individual and said we could have total financial meltdown any time.
		The same people that set up the system are running it currently.
		They're not going with his alternate plan or Ron Paul's alternate plan because it limits their power.
		I'm gonna go to your phone calls and we're coming back with Joe Rogan here in a minute.
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unidentified		Hi Alex.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We have three different combos up there where you can get a free Reflections and Warnings with Aaron Russo, the last video interview he did about the Federal Reserve, the New World Order.
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		Let's go to Raul in Texas.
		Thanks for holding her on the air.
unidentified		Hi, Alex.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Go ahead.
unidentified		Oh, great.
		I had the opportunity to meet you at last year's Independent Rally in Dallas.
		And after meeting you, I was really inspired to take action against the New World Order.
		So what I want to do is organize a protest in Houston, Texas next Wednesday.
		Because Richard Haass, the president of Foreign Relations, Council of Foreign Relations, will be in Houston in the Galleria.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the guy that writes articles admitting that they're using fake environmentalism and fake terror to take our rights.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Richard N. Haass is coming to Houston next week.
unidentified		Yes, he is.
		He'll be at the Westin Hotel in the Galleria.
		And if anybody's interested, I set up an email account, cfriseville.com, if they're interested in finding out more.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay, exciting.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		CFR is evil at?
unidentified		Gmail.com.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Now, you could also probably call and go in there as press if you have a local news website, or is it closed to the public?
unidentified		It's a private event for members only for an international society.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, you exercise your free speech by taking it, so yeah, show up in front or on the sidewalk.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Everybody should go.
unidentified		Let me ask you, what would be some good material to hand out, especially people that don't know about the CFR?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'd give full of the Republic, make copies, give that out.
		I'd make up a fact sheet with websites and quotes by Haas, where he's calling for an end to U.S.
		sovereignty.
		I would have the quote of Barry Goldwater about how the CFR Interlateral Commission are a private group trying to take over our government and set up world government.
		That's what I'd do.
		Good to hear from you, Rahul.
		Keep it up.
		Ness in California, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hey, Alex, it's a pleasure to be on the air.
		Long time listener, first time caller.
		I actually heard about you through Immortal Technique years and years ago.
		I always thought you were talking bullcrap until I went down the rabbit hole and I realized that there was more to what he was saying than, you know, there was more to it than what he was just saying.
		And I started watching your films.
		I can't remember exactly which one was the first one.
		And later I came upon Endgame.
		And after him game, it just blew my mind.
		I couldn't stop telling people.
		I used to work at a Costco, gave out your CDs to everybody that walked in there.
		Here you go, here you go, here you go.
		Awesome!
		But either way, I was hoping to get on when you had on Ron Paul because I've always tell people stuff and everybody tells me, well, what are you going to do about it?
		What are you going to do about it?
		And you know, I'm not telling other people are the first step.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no.
		The establishment always wants to say talking does nothing.
		Why do they buy all this propaganda and constantly pay people off to have their view?
		No.
		Talking is everything.
		Warning people.
		Getting involved.
		Demonstrating.
		Calling in to talk radio.
		Getting Ron Paul to run.
		Running yourself locally.
		Supporting pro-liberty candidates.
		Getting involved.
		Getting informed.
		Tuning into the real political dialogue that's going on.
		Shattering the left-right paradigm.
unidentified		You know what, Alex?
		I have taken it to the next step and I said, you know what?
		I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore.
		And what I did, my buddy and myself, we started our own radio station, LATalkLive.com.
		And I personally, I'm an advocate of medicinal cannabis.
		A lot of people out there that don't have a fight for themselves, that don't have a word.
		I know Ron Paul is working on that and especially on the hemp.
		That's a whole different issue.
		That's just part of the fight.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Awesome, awesome, awesome, awesome, Ness.
		Thank you.
		Let's talk to Marty in California.
		Marty, go ahead.
unidentified		Hello, Alex.
unidentified		How are you today?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Good.
unidentified		Say, you know, I want to just make a couple quickie statements.
		It appears that the government will lie with everything they say as well as what they omit telling the people.
		I have a brief statement of fact that occurred here in Southern California the other day.
		A pregnant woman with pneumonia went to the hospital to give birth to her child.
		During the delivery, this woman died due to complications from the pneumonia.
		But the hospital announced that she died from the swine flu.
		The husband, the father of the child, which did survive, tried again and again to correct their false announcements.
		Saying that she had died from complications due to the pneumonia.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's because they've been paid to fearmonger and hype, and all over the country, I don't know if your story's true, I believe it, but I can't confirm it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They've been caught saying people die from swine flu, and then a week later there's a tiny blurb in the paper saying they actually died from something else.
unidentified		They have not, they've ignored what this fella has been saying.
unidentified		It appears they've got him lying to falsify these statistics about the flu.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, how did you learn about this?
unidentified		Actually, I have a business.
		My distributor representative goes from San Diego clear up out to Indio.
		It's got to be a 300 mile radius.
		And he takes orders for parts and so forth that you need to continue business.
		And I've known this gentleman for 25 years.
		Very good man.
		Business as well as friendship.
		And he told me this yesterday.
		Hello?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Oh, so that's how I found out about it.
unidentified		I live in a very small little Mayberry kind of town and everybody knows everybody and so I know it to be the truth.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, listen, I appreciate your call.
		Look, I believe people two months ago, when they were calling saying they injected my kid here in Texas, they injected my kid in California, in Kentucky, in New York, and I went to the school, and it was always elementary kids who they could say, oh, they're just confused.
		And they would show up, and they'd say, you're the only person saying this, and then more parents would walk in and say, you injected my kid!
		And then it came out in the news everywhere they're doing it!
		So, A, they're doing it illegally and secretly, B, they lie about it when they get caught, and C, they've now been caught lying about it, and have been caught again.
		So, how do you trust a government, a media, hospitals, public schools?
		I mean, they've been lying for years, saying it's the law, you've got to take flu vaccines.
		It's the law.
		that you've got to do all this.
		There's no law you've got to do that.
		But they tell nurses that.
		I mean, they CPS people's children.
		They take people's children that don't take shots when there's no law.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Hundreds of nations have fallen to tyranny in the last century alone.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		This is our last chance to not relive history.
alan watt ▲ ● ▼		As we're finishing off this agenda, That we're pulling the rug from underneath Americans at home.
john perkins ▲ ● ▼		We have tremendous influence on our President and Congress.
john perkins ▲ ● ▼		And they really are calling the shots.
jesse ventura ▲ ● ▼		I think it's incumbent upon all of us as American citizens to pay attention.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		For the Republic identifies the enemies of our nation, the criminal offshore cartel, hell-bent on destroying sovereignty and on its ashes constructing world government.
unidentified		Tim Geithner, Bernanke, they're arsonists!
		They're asking for more matches!
		And the Congress is saying, who do we make the check out to?
g edward griffin ▲ ● ▼		Today, it seems like nobody does care.
g edward griffin ▲ ● ▼		And right now in Washington, D.C., We have seen a fall of the Republic.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Joe Rogan's been here before.
		They texted me they're lost trying to find it.
		Now they're on the outskirts of Austin.
		So they'll be in here in studio next hour.
		Get Joe's take on what's happening in the world today when he orbits through town.
		Always good to see my buddy.
		I wanted to continue with your phone calls.
		We'll do that in the next segment.
		But I get call after call after call after call after call after call saying, how do you wake people up?
		What do you do?
		How do you explain all this complex information to them?
		You do it by telling them that they're being conned, they're being manipulated and start questioning everything.
		And you do it with documentary films like Fall of the Republic, like Camp FEMA.
		Unlike Endgame, Blueprint for Global Enslavement.
		And you make copies of these films, you give them to your friends, your family, your neighbors, you have viewing parties.
		You commit to wake people up.
		I mean, the government is criminal.
		It's bankrupt.
		It's run by people poisoning the food and water supply.
		They want to bankrupt society by design.
		That's been declassified and come out in many places.
		It's time to wake up and say no.
		So I want to encourage listeners again to at least go up to InfoWars.com, click on the big banner at the top, go to FollowTheRepublic.com.
		And to get the films on DVD, to make copies, download them at PrisonPlanet.tv.
		Get the free YouTube copy.
		Just Google or go to YouTube and type in Fall of the Republic.
		The top one up there's got a half million views of over a thousand versions that have been uploaded.
		And email it out to everybody.
		It's simple.
		You're under mind control.
		That's one of the key sections in the film.
		In fact, here's the mind control trailer exposing the mind control.
		Stay with us.
alan watt ▲ ● ▼		Most people still today think that all entertainment to do with movies, drama, is therefore nothing more than their entertainment.
alan watt ▲ ● ▼		It never ever was that case.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Throughout history, social engineers have refined techniques designed to control large populations.
unidentified		It is bringing entertainment to thousands of people.
alan watt ▲ ● ▼		Right in the comfort of our own home.
alan watt ▲ ● ▼		You're actually in an alpha state being completely downloaded with new ideas.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		A cult of personality can be manufactured to influence the masses.
g edward griffin ▲ ● ▼		Nobody will question what he's doing.
g edward griffin ▲ ● ▼		They'll be so preoccupied with where he is or what he's wearing.
unidentified		Yes, we can!
g edward griffin ▲ ● ▼		The idea of making him into a celebrity.
alan watt ▲ ● ▼		Eventually, he said, they will expect.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The scientific dictatorship understands what makes human beings tick, and they're using it against us.
unidentified		These cells are scanned by a stream of electrons, completing 30 pictures a second.
g edward griffin ▲ ● ▼		It's hard for people like that to take a serious interest in what their elected officials are doing.
g edward griffin ▲ ● ▼		They've been programmed.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's Obama's role to front for the International Banking Syndicate.
unidentified		Barack Obama is a puppet of the New World Order.
		Is this some sort of a New World Order?
		The New World Order is emerging.
john perkins ▲ ● ▼		For the first time in history, we really have this new form of an empire.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The average man and woman is in a trance.
		They get home from work.
		They don't even talk to their children.
		They turn the television on.
		And they let those corporate messages set the agenda in their lives.
jesse ventura ▲ ● ▼		You got time to watch baseball.
		You got time to entertain yourself.
		What a knowledgeable public we're losing.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Kill your television, or at least turn it off a few hours a day.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The children aren't even playing in your front yards anymore.
unidentified		We don't want to live under a world government of the corporations, by the corporations, and for the corporations.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Fall of the Republic.
		Volume 1, The Presidency of Barack Obama.
		Obama is the latest version of 21st century mass mind control.
		Available on DVD at InfoWars.com and online at PrisonPlanet.tv.
		October 21st, 2009.
		And the film has now been out for 12, 13 days, exploding all over the Internet.
		People making copies of the DVD everywhere.
		If you watch Follow the Republic, you will know the truth about the New World Order, who they are, what their plan is, how to stop them, how they manipulate and control people.
		This is cyanide to the New World Order.
		This is a silver bullet to a werewolf.
		It's a wooden stake to the heart of the vampire.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Hundreds of nations have fallen to tyranny in the last century alone.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		This is our last chance to not relive history.
alan watt ▲ ● ▼		As they're finishing off this agenda, they'll be pulling the rug from underneath Americans at home.
john perkins ▲ ● ▼		We have tremendous influence on our President and Congress, and they really are calling the shots.
jesse ventura ▲ ● ▼		I think it's incumbent upon all of us Tim Geithner?
		Bernanke?
		They're arsonists!
		They're asking for more matches!
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Fall of the Republic identifies the enemies of our nation.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The criminal offshore cartel, hell-bent on destroying sovereignty and on its ashes constructing world government.
unidentified		Tim Geithner, Bernanke, they're arsonists.
		They're asking for more matches.
		And the Congress is saying, who do we make the checkout to?
g edward griffin ▲ ● ▼		Today, it seems like nobody does care.
g edward griffin ▲ ● ▼		And right now in Washington, D.C., we have seen a fall of the republic.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Get your copy of Fall of the Republic on DVD at InfoWars.com or watch it online right now in super high quality at PrisonPlanet.tv.
unidentified		Waging war on corruption.
unidentified		Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We are into the final hour today.
		This is good with Joe because it's late.
		We'll go into some overdrive for the PrisonPlanet.tv viewers.
		The folks listening on the audio screens won't be on the AM and FM, but we should be here any minute.
		Go Rogan!
		Host of the highly successful Fear Factor, News Radio, The Man Show, HBO Specials, Top Comedian, and known as a conspiracy terrorist by the media.
		That means he questions the establishment.
		That is coming up.
		Let's go ahead and go to your phone calls right now.
		Let's talk to Richard in North Carolina.
		You're on the air, Richard.
unidentified		Hey, what's up?
unidentified		I was actually curious if you had seen Al Gore who came on Comedy Central yesterday on the Colbert Report and the Daily Show promoting his Your Choice Climate Bullcrap Global Warming book.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, I didn't see it, but I know he's got a new movie coming out saying it's a religion.
		It's a made-up... He admits it's a religion.
		We've always said it's a religion.
		It is a religion.
unidentified		He's just coming on there and he's smiling.
unidentified		He's going with the little skits and he's getting, he's winning the hearts of these, you know, very weak minded... Just like he sold NAFTA and GATT.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And boy wasn't NAFTA and GATT great.
unidentified		Yeah, he's a wonderful guy, but other than that, I was actually going to get a credit card yesterday.
		I know it's bad, but I was going to just buy as many copies of DVDs so I could put it out there and really help fight this info war where I'm at and everywhere else.
		And I was told by federal law, this, this, you have to know this, and I asked the lady on the Bank of America, I said, what is the federal law?
		She said, the Patriot Act.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yes, the Patriot Act compliance gets rid of the Fourth Amendment, surveils everything.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's horrible.
unidentified		It is horrible.
		I just want to say, man, I'm a big fan.
		I really look up to you and Joe Rogan.
		You guys are like my two idols, so just thank you for the time.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		Joe is a character.
		He's been here before, but they're lost.
		Let's go ahead and talk to David in Texas.
		David, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hey Alex, I've talked to you before.
		Look, I work in finance, and I'll tell you, the people in our industry know very, very little about economics, and sometimes even investments.
		And, you know, I happen to know a lot of these guys that are chief investment officers up at the major firms that people know.
		You know, PIMCO, BlackRock, Leg Mason, I can go on and on.
		But they give a lot of speeches and conferences and the stuff they put out to the media, but
		You know, if you have a relationship with these guys, and if they know that you know what they know, if you get what I mean, if they know that you understand the same level of understanding they have, they're a little more open, I've found, because since I talked to you, I don't know, a month ago, I try to be a lot more poignant with my questioning to these guys now that they understand and know a little bit more, and they're all in agreement that
		The major themes that get talked about on your show are coming down, economically anyway.
		They all are in agreement that either slow in overtime or potentially quicker, that the dollar will fall against all other currencies.
		No question.
		They know that's going to happen.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that decision has been openly announced.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
		So they, you know, and it's not that they It's just not their mainstream view that they give out.
		But again, if they know that you understand the stuff they know, then they're a little more open if you're friendly with them.
		So anyway, point number one.
		Number two, inflation will go up, or at least the prices of stuff will go up.
		Inflation is already happening because that's monetary base expansion, which clearly has been happening.
		Stocks will go up probably Over time, but it's going to be negated by the inflation.
		And I bring it back to the simple point of, you know, back in 2000, when when the Dow was around 10,000 and gold was 250.
		You know, look at where it is now that that ratio was it cost 40 ounces of gold to buy the Dow then and now with gold over 1000 now it costs like Nine ounces of gold.
		And probably, depending on who you listen to, that relationship will slowly go down five to one, and maybe to two to one.
		So does that mean that the Dow is at $20,000 and gold is at $10,000?
		You know, that relationship is probably going to exist.
		Stock market can still go up, but again, it's the purchasing power that makes sense.
		Or the purchasing power that matters.
		But the other part, the last part, is that You know, most of these guys and firms and people in business, you know, they're selling to their book.
		Meaning, they're selling, they're trying to sell you on what they sell or what they recommend.
		So, you gotta listen, you gotta, you know, understand who you're... I hear ya, and I appreciate your call.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We'll be right back, folks.
		Stay with us.
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		If there's There's a quarantine and you can't feed yourself.
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		And what are we doing instead?
unidentified		At Copenhagen, this December, weeks away, a treaty will be signed...
		Your president will sign it.
		Most of the third world countries will sign it because they think they're going to get money out of it.
		Most of the left-wing regimes around the world, like the European Union, will rubber-stamp it.
		Virtually nobody won't sign it.
		I have read that treaty.
		And what it says is this.
		That a world government is going to be created.
		The word government actually appears as the first of three purposes of the new entity.
		The second purpose is the transfer of wealth from the countries of the West to third world countries in satisfaction of what is called coyly the climate debt.
		Because we've been burning CO2 and they haven't, and we've been screwing up the climate.
		We haven't been screwing up the climate, but that's the line.
		And the third purpose of this new entity, this government, is enforcement.
		How many of you think that the word election, or democracy, or vote, or ballot, occurs anywhere in the 200 pages of that treaty?
		Quite right, it doesn't appear once.
		So at last, the communists who piled out of The Berlin Wall and into the environmental movement and took over Greenpeace so that my friends who founded it left within a year because they'd captured it.
		Now the apotheosis is at hand.
		They are about to impose a communist world government on the world.
		You have a president who has very strong sympathies with that point of view.
		He's going to sign.
		He'll sign anything.
		He's a Nobel Peace Laureate.
		Of course he'll sign it.
		And the trouble is this.
		If that treaty is signed, your constitution says that it takes precedence over your constitution.
		And you can't resile from that treaty unless you get the agreement of all the other states' parties.
		And because you'll be the biggest paying country, they're not going to let you out.
		So, thank you, America.
		You were the beacon of freedom for the world.
		It is a privilege merely to stand on this soil of freedom while it is still free.
		But in the next few weeks, unless you stop it, your president will sign your freedom, your democracy and your prosperity away forever.
		And neither you nor any subsequent government you may elect will have any power whatsoever to take it back again.
		That is how serious it is.
		I have read the treaty.
		I've seen this stuff about government and climate debt and enforcement.
		They are going to do this to you, whether you like it or not.
		But I think it is here, here in your great nation, which I so love and I so admire, it is here that perhaps at this 11th hour, at the 59th minute and 59th second, You will rise up and you will stop your President from signing that dreadful treaty.
		That purposeless treaty, for there is no problem with the climate, and even if there were, economically speaking, there's nothing we can do about it.
		So I end by saying to you the words that Winston Churchill addressed to your President in the darkest hour before the dawn of freedom in the Second World War.
		He quoted from your great poet Longfellow.
		Sail on, O Ship of State.
		Sail on, O Union, strong and great.
		Humanity, with all its fears, with all the hopes of future years, is hanging breathless on thy fate.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		All right, ladies and gentlemen, literally skidding into a landing.
		Joe Rogan, my good buddy, host of the UFC, host of NBC comedy series, Fear Factor.
		The list goes on and on.
		He needs no introduction.
		Joe, good to have you here.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What's happening, brother?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Good to see you.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		As you can see, what do I have here in front of me?
		That's the documents.
		Ladies and gentlemen, he has the documents.
		He's here to fight the New World Order.
		We will not be denied one step closer to victory.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What's behind you, man?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Is that the Vortex?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That is the Vortex.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Is that what the New World Order is going to force us to go through?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Maybe.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So tell me what you were telling me when we got here.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, they're openly announcing the end of the dollar.
		They're openly announcing world government.
		They're openly announcing carbon taxes.
		Taxes on everything you eat, on a dog, because they eat meat.
		Taxes on cars.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I saw something recently that said that if you have a dog, that it's more damaging to the environment than having an SUV.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yes, that was the LA Times headline.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The carbon.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How is that?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They're going to tax all life.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Carbon dioxide that plants breathe.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Is it because of the dog food?
		Like it costs, it takes a lot of resources to make dog food?
		Is that what it is?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Is that what they're trying to say?
unidentified		Yes.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Damn, they're going after dogs?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They're going after everybody, Joe.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's rude.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How can you go after dogs?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You know, you are a busy guy.
		You just did local...
		93.7 KLBJ this morning.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I did.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And you're in Austin for another one of your sold-out shows.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You're about to be sold out.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Cap City Comedy Club with young Ari Shaffir behind me.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He has Jew gold, if anybody's looking for it.
unidentified		That's the theme of the day.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		He is Jewish.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah, look at him.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Look at that fella.
unidentified		Okay, you're going to have the ADL write an article.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They're going to claim you're a white supremacist down here.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, he's a real, real Jew.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh my gosh.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He's got the papers.
		He's got the documents.
		New World Order will not win.
		So tell me about this.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Brian's Jewish too.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Brian's not Jewish, he's German.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, no.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Everybody's Jewish.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay.
		We're Jewish.
		Forget it.
		I'm Jewish.
		I like Jewish people.
		So, what is this collapse of the dollar?
		What did they announce?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		What did they say?
		The G20's met.
		They decided to start phasing it out.
		Countries a month ago started shifting away from buying dollars to buying euros and other currencies.
		And this will lower our standard of living by probably 50% over the next three years if it goes through.
		And they say it's going through.
		Wow.
		That's why gold hasn't really gone up to $1,999.
unidentified		What about Jewgold?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The dollar's gone down.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Is Jewgold worth more these days?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Joe, what is Jewgold?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm always hearing about Jewgold.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You gotta ask a Jew.
		They get secret meetings.
		It's just like the CFR.
		They meet in private and they talk about their Jewgold.
unidentified		Right?
unidentified		Yes, how do we raise the price?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm into gold.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Does that mean I'm in on the Jewgold conspiracy?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You may be.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Seeing as how you fight the New World Order, they might make you an honorary Jew and you can get in there.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh man, okay.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You gotta get tight.
		You gotta get tight with the Jews.
		It's very important.
		At this point in our history, very important.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		With Sacha Baron Cohen.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He's a Jew.
		Did you like Borat?
		Excellent film, right?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I haven't seen the new one.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Just say you like it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Say I like it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I thought it was... No, I think some of it's funny.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He's hilarious.
		He's probably the funniest English guy of all time, right?
		Who's even close?
		I mean, there's Monty Python, those guys were great, but this guy takes it too far.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Queen Elizabeth is funnier, but she's not trying to be funny.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No one makes me laugh more than that Borat guy.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Alright, getting serious here for a minute.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yes, getting serious.
		So they really are trying to phase out the dollar.
		Where's all this coming from?
		What news documents?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		New York Times, Ban Ki-moon, head of the UN, says get ready for global government.
unidentified		God!
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How could that be good?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, Joe, how much of the stuff we talked about 12 years ago is now coming true?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, a lot.
		You know, it was really interesting when you first, you and I first talked.
		We talked on September 11, 2001.
		We talked on that day, and you were telling me... But we were friends before that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But we talked on air.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
		We were friends for a couple years by then.
		And we talked on the air.
		The day of the September 11th attacks, Alex was going crazy.
		He was on the phone.
		Joe, this is a plot by the American government.
		They did this.
		They allowed this to happen.
		They planned it in advance.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They detonated those buildings.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I have experts!
		You went crazy way before anybody, dude.
		Nobody is more of a 9-11, like, pioneer than you.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, thank you, Joe.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		What do you think of 9-11 now, eight years on?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Tower 7 disturbs me the most.
		I look at towers 1 and 2 and I go, well those got hit by planes, you know?
		And look at the fire and everything.
		Maybe it broke.
		Maybe everyone's being crazy.
		But that tower 7 just went...
		Just like a controlled demolition.
		And everybody's like, yeah, but it had holes in the building.
		And you see the hole in the building?
		Yes, I see the hole in the building.
		But wouldn't it fall towards that hole?
		Why is it falling like that?
		And if that was my building, I would sue... I almost swear.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But the CIA was in that building.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And we have the firemen and police saying, we've been told we're blowing it up.
		Get back.
		Get back.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And what other organizations?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		There's a bunch of other... FBI, Defense Intelligence.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There was a lot of documents in that building.
		In that building, rather.
		So, that building bothers me.
		A lot.
		I don't like it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Securities and Exchange Commission.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The way it fell just looks so fake.
		It was incredible.
		I mean, it looks exactly like a control tower.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, they were on the news saying, we're going to bring it down for everyone's safety.
		We're going to blow it up.
		We have the video clips of BBC, CNN, CBS.
		And then after they said, we didn't say we were going to blow it up.
		We didn't say we'd blow it up.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, I've never seen those.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I've seen... In fact, give them a truth rising.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I've seen the Larry Silverstein guy say, pull it, but that could have been...
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Google, building 7, police say get back.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Gonna pull it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You know, the first two buildings felt totally different.
		The first two buildings fell from where they got jacked.
		Like, you could see, like, you know, right... But there were blast squibs there, too.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Boom, boom, boom.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't know what that is.
		I'm not an expert.
		I have no information about that.
		I mean, just to take, just devil's advocate, that could be just the pressure of the building collapsing, forcing all this air out and forcing all these windows to explode.
		That's just as possible.
		That doesn't make sense to me with Tower 7, though.
		The way Tower 7 fell, it just kinked in the middle and fell down free-fall speed, almost.
		I mean, everybody, like, they'll nitpick at you.
		Oh, it was one-tenth of a second slower than free-fall.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
		NIST has had to go back now and admit it.
		Okay, there was free-fall on the first ten floors.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, even if it was just close to free fall, that's crazy.
		There was no resistance.
		It just gave up.
		Why wouldn't it, like, wiggle and collapse towards where it got jacked?
		It just seems like a controlled demolition.
		That bothers me.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Or maybe the building was taking DMT.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't think it would have done that if it was.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's good to have you here.
		So I know the shows always sell out.
		Are they sold out yet?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Because I've gone to a lot of your shows and there's always cars outside the parking lot.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		If they know that the Alex Jones is going to be there, more people will show up.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh yes.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well the video of you going on stage during Stanhope Show, the beginning of Stanhope Show, that's a classic, you know.
		People who haven't seen it, a bunch of drunk people started heckling Alex.
		Alex went on to bring up Doug Stanhope, and it turned into a full-blur, like, 30-minute conversation about the New World Order, right?
		Wasn't it?
		Yeah.
		It was pretty wild.
		It was fun stuff.
		Have you seen it?
		Why are they playing music?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Because we're going to break, Joe!
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's a little hint, huh?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's like, wrap it up, stupid.
		People across the street saw Joe.
		We're out here in the middle of nowhere, and they came running across to see him.
		You've got fans everywhere.
unidentified		Oh, well that's nice.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I like Austin.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's like swooning women like you were Elvis throwing their clothes at you.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		We saw one big fat one on a scooter.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Hundreds of nations have fallen to tyranny in the last century alone.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		This is our last chance to not relive history.
alan watt ▲ ● ▼		As we're finishing off this agenda...
alan watt ▲ ● ▼		They'll be pulling the rug from underneath Americans at home.
john perkins ▲ ● ▼		We have tremendous influence on our President and Congress, and they really are calling the shots.
jesse ventura ▲ ● ▼		I think it's incumbent upon all of us as American citizens to pay attention.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Fall of the Republic identifies the enemies of our nation, the criminal offshore cartel, hell-bent on destroying sovereignty and on its ashes constructing world government.
unidentified		Tim Geithner, Bernanke, they're arsonists!
		They're asking for more matches!
		And the Congress is saying, who do we make the check out to?
g edward griffin ▲ ● ▼		Today seems like nobody does care.
g edward griffin ▲ ● ▼		And right now in Washington, D.C., we have seen a fall of the Republic.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Get your copy of Fall of the Republic on DVD at InfoWars.com.
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unidentified		Remain in your houses.
		The President of the United States has declared martial law under Executive Order 11004.
		Will they do it?
		Will they pull the trigger this time?
		We all pray they stand down, but an engineered crisis seems more likely with each passing day.
		Think it can't happen here?
		Executive Order 10990 locks down all highways.
		Executive Order 10995 seizes control of all media outlets.
		Executive Order 10998 controls all farms and food supplies.
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		You must remain in your houses until your bracelets are scanned.
		In just a few seconds, another building, building number seven, one of the buildings in support of the World Trade Center towers, has collapsed.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay, guys.
		Back that up to the first again, and there's literally scores of these clips.
		This is police saying, get back, they're bringing it down, it's coming down.
		And I heard that on CBS radio that day, but then we have the news clips where BBC reports it's fallen before it fell.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I read about that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay, let's go ahead and roll the clip again from the start for everybody, where the police are saying, get back.
		And then I've interviewed Craig Bartmer and other police officers who were there and they said, they walked up to FEMA and said, what are you doing?
		And they said, countdown 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, run for your lives!
		There was a countdown on the radio to blow up seven.
		Let's go ahead and play it.
		Here it is.
unidentified		Here it is.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The whole thing's about to come down.
		It's about to blow up.
		Get back.
		And then we went and found police officers that were there.
		We also have a Democracy Now!
		Show where they were live when it happened.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Okay, but isn't it possible, or is it possible rather, that those cops were saying that the building's going to fall because it was about to collapse?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Because it was just on fire?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No steel building had ever collapsed from fire until three that day.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And then we have Silverstein saying, we made the decision to pull it, gave the order and watched it come down.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So you believe that the reason why they brought this down was whatever documents they had in there were very incriminating and they had gotten away with a lot of different, you know, a lot of corruption and that's why they brought that down because it just makes everything else disappear.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well they picked a site where they could destroy a building and then cover up their evidence during another attack they were using as a pretext to launch wars.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So you firmly believe that the attacks on the Twin Towers were premeditated by the United States government in order to bring us into war?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I believed it eight years ago on 9-11 that night you came on.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you did.
		It's fascinating, really, when you think about it.
		This is the main problem with conspiracy theories.
		The number one problem is that when you bring them up, you look foolish.
		So people don't even want to bring up the possibility that they exist.
		But when you look into U.S.
		history, you look into the Gulf of Tonkin, you look into the Northwoods document, where they were planning fake terror attacks on American civilians in order to get us into a war with Cuba from 1962.
		When you look into that stuff and you realize that everything evolves, you know, science evolves, culture evolves and, you know, corruption evolves to the corruption that is that deep that could run the government, the corruption that can kill Kennedy, the corruption that can fake wars or fake attacks rather than to bring us into war like they did with the Gulf the corruption that can fake wars or fake attacks rather than to bring us into war like That doesn't go away.
		It gets bigger and stronger as long as it isn't exposed, as long as some massive arrest didn't take place and hundreds and thousands of people were brought to justice and paraded out on television.
		No, I mean, the biggest corruption ever was Watergate.
		And what was that?
		He was spying on some other people.
		That's it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, that's... And now we just expect the government to spy on us.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But if you compare that to what we know has taken place, just the Gulf of Tonkin, just that, the fake attack that brought us into the Vietnam War, just the idea that the Northwoods document was actually signed by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, they sat down and they said, yes, we agree, this idea of fake terror attacks on American civilians is a good idea.
		People are going to die for lies, for theater that they're going to create.
		They're going to create these fake Cuban attacks.
		I mean, that's scary, scary stuff.
		And if no one was brought to justice, and they weren't, it's not like that stopped and everybody just got a conscience and met in the parking lot and all held hands and sang Kumbaya and decided, well, we're not going to be douchebags anymore.
		We're going to be nice the way we run the world.
		There's no way.
		That's not what happened.
		And, you know, people don't want to look at the possibility that our government is involved in some really scary, really shady stuff that involves the death of our own citizens for profit.
		People don't want to look at that, but it is possible.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely, and 30 years ago, even a decade ago, they called it a conspiracy theory to say the Gulf of Tonkin in 1964 was a conspiracy theory.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Now it's been declassified, the LBJ tapes have been released, they did stage the whole thing, and 58,000 Americans died and over a million Vietnam The History Channel has said that the United States had advanced warning about Pearl Harbor and that they allowed it to happen to bring us into World War II.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That was on the History Channel.
		Not that it means anything.
		Ari Shaffir, I think you need a microphone if you want to speak to the entire world.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Hey, we can hook another mic up.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You stumped ass bitch forgot he was on the radio.
		How dare you.
		How dare you, Shaffir.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We need to get Homeland Security in here and arrest him.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I know, he's carrying illegal drugs in his system right now.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Did you hear?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Illegal nature.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Did you hear that Homeland Security put out a report, we got it and released it, we'll come back and talk about it after this break, where they admit that their main threat is conservatives, gun owners, libertarians, and veterans, and the whole police state grid.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, those are the people that are organized.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You know, hippies will complain, but veterans will say that we should leave the frozen food out in the desert.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Joe Rogan.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Alex Jones, ladies and gentlemen.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		An honor to be here.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We're gonna do 20 minutes of overdrive since Joe was lost on the way over here.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Plumes of smoke, like up in smoke.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, we didn't smoke until we got here.
		But watch.
		The traffic was, the navigation system was terrible.
		Wacky.
		It was some piece of crap that came with Avis.
		By the way, we got a badass Cadillac.
		Cadillac is making some cool cars, man.
		We got this little zippy Cadillac.
		It's really good.
		I like it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Every time I see you when you're out of town, you rent a Cadillac.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I like Cadillacs.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We're a big truck.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Guinea and me.
		I'm three quarters Italian.
		So the Italian in me likes Cadillacs.
unidentified		It does.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It does.
		I like shiny things.
		A little raccoon.
		So what we were talking about before the break, about how the government is worried about conservatives and gun owners.
		And, you know, and I think they should be.
		I think if the government really is corrupt, those are the ones you have to worry about.
		You don't have to worry about the hippies with the Subarus with the bumper stickers on.
		Those aren't the dangerous ones.
		The dangerous ones are the dudes who know the Constitution.
		The dudes who are living out in the desert with dried fruit in their basement and, you know, and they got water, you know, a giant cistern in the backyard that could last them for three years.
		Those are the guys you have to worry about.
		Those are the guys that are going to organize.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But you're saying the criminals have to worry about them?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the criminals, yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But that's my point, is that all these years we knew the way they set it up, that Homeland Security was for the American people.
		Then we got all these secret documents, and it has nothing to do with foreigners.
		It is for the American people.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You've got to be worried about people organizing, not because there's something evil about organizing, but because people are such lemmings.
		That's the real problem with, like, Waco, Texas and stuff like that.
		When you see some dude stocking up guns, you gotta go, God damn it, what is that idiot doing?
		You know, you gotta worry about that if you're the government or if you're regular civilians, because guess what, man?
		It's like what's going on in Afghanistan.
		They have warlords, and these warlords run regions of the country, and that's one of the reasons why it's so difficult to break through over there.
		That could happen in America.
		We could have cults, where these cults are armed and they control big pieces of the population.
		That's very possible.
		Scientology could easily pull that off.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Here in about five minutes, I've got a call in.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Ari Shaffir is anti-scientology, by the way.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He just said it.
unidentified		What?
unidentified		No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He wants a career in show business.
		He knows.
		Gotta kiss their ass.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Don't start the conspiracy theories.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		People already think, millions of webpages... They believe you're Bill Hicks.
unidentified		That I am Bill Hicks.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'm not Bill Hicks.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I mean... No, you're definitely not Bill Hicks.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But because I've worked with somebody that worked with him, and he had kind of a southern accent, it must be me.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You know, a really huge compliment.
		Kevin Booth always says that you are funnier than Bill Hicks.
		You know that?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't think I'm funnier than Bill Hicks.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, Bill Hicks said a lot of brilliant stuff, but you might be funnier than him.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You're funny in a different way.
unidentified		I think you're definitely funnier than him.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well Ari is honestly, Ari though he is one of my best friends and a great comic of his own, is not a fan of the Bill Hicks.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He doesn't, he does not believe, this is Ari right there, Ari does not believe that the Bill Hicks was very funny.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We got some really bad news here.
		NBC News, seven dead, twelve injured in Fort Hood shooting.
		No word from military bases.
		Whether the victims are military or civilians, at least seven people are dead and twelve wounded.
		That's the last place that nut drove into the Luby's and shot everybody, but nobody was allowed to be armed so he could do it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So that's probably some soldier went crazy?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We'll try to get Susanna Hupp, Representative Susanna Hupp, on tomorrow.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Anti-American person went in there?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it was her dad and mom got killed there.
		Now she's a state rep.
		Let's get her on about this.
		The official would not give his name or additional details.
		It was unknown whether victims are soldiers or civilians.
		You know, it probably ended up being a soldier that's gone.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Isn't it kind of fascinating?
		I mean, let's say it's not a soldier.
		What if it was an attack?
		Isn't it kind of fascinating that it's a huge deal if someone gets attacked on this patch of dirt?
		But like, how many different days go by where ten soldiers die in Afghanistan and it doesn't even make mainstream news?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's because it is rare to happen here.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And because a lot of people are cowardly, it scares them.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Why is that?
		Why?
		Yeah, that's it.
		But why is it, you know, why is it more news if Americans die here?
		I mean, is it really more news?
		I mean, we make such a, so light of the people that die in Afghanistan and Iraq.
		I mean, it's really crazy.
		You know, like one kid is missing and it's front page news for days.
unidentified		Weeks.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But, but soldiers can get shot up and killed three, four at a time and it's just a tiny little story and then we move on.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, that's very... Well, they don't even allow the coffins to be seen now.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well they didn't for a while, but didn't Obama rescind that?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Didn't he change that?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		He allows select groups of coffins to be seen.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I mean, the whole thing is so scary.
		They're blocking information.
		They censor information.
		If they're censoring photographs, they're censoring information.
		They don't want you to see the numbers.
		They don't want you to be affected by the numbers.
		That's scary stuff.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I agree, and I always say my heart goes out to those that have died.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The media is going to be saying about this incident, but our heart does go out to them.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's just shocking how we just go with it.
		That's what's shocking to me.
		That was the most shocking thing about 9-11, was that within a couple days, all these people were driving by with American flags all over their cars.
		And for a while, I was like, well, maybe this is good, because I was like, OK, look, people are going to feel good about America.
		We're going to rally together on this.
		We've been attacked.
		But then part of me was like, wow, this is scary how quick it happened.
		I mean these are the same dopes that had Lakers flags on their cars just a few months ago when the Lakers were winning.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's like an inch deep, mile wide fad.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's not a real commitment.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right, because the flags are gone now.
		Who has American flags hanging from their car?
		A few lone nuts.
		A few crazy dudes.
		Very few.
		Back then, you would go into a Walmart parking lot and you would see 30, 40, 50 cars with American flags on them.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Nobody touched those guys.
		I saw a guy who had one of those in a t-shirt on it said Osama Yo Mama.
		Al-Qaeda hunting licenses.
unidentified		Yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Going, I'm going to get me some Al-Qaeda.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I saw a guy who had one of those in a T-shirt on.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It said, Osama, yo mama.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Now, Joe, Joe, we've got to call in to 1360 in Dallas.
		Wants me to pop in.
		Who are we talking to?
		And Richard Hunter is the talk show host.
		We want to pop in and say hi to them because they wanted me to be on during a break and I couldn't do it.
		So we're going to say hi to them.
		You're going to be with us 20 minutes into overdrive today.
		It won't be on your AM and FM dial coming up in 20 minutes.
		It'll be at InfoWars.com on the audio streams and PrisonPlanet.tv video streams and archives.
		We gotta take advantage of you being here, Joe.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I will.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'm taking advantage of being here as well.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Joe, you are really fired up today.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I am fired up.
		You are too, Alex.
		We're gonna go eat after this, right?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Don't say where.
unidentified		Okay.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Don't want any stalkers.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, please.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Double stalkers, yours and mine.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's right.
		They might come together.
		They might duke it out in the parking lot and leave us alone.
		Do you think my stalkers and your stalkers would like each other?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I have the type where a woman will get out in a parking lot and come up and say hi to me, and then run around screaming that I've attacked her.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I have that kind of stuff.
		Oh, wow.
		Yeah, I have to really like... There's a lot of paranoid nuts out there, man.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's a lot of people who think I've put chips in their brains.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You haven't?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You haven't.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well the issue is, I mean I cover real issues, and then there is all the crazies out there.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Who think they're possessed by the Palladians or whatever.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Think about like that David Icke character.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Because that's the reptilian dude.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You know I think he has 99% of his information, it's very important, he's a great speaker.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But then he goes reptilian on your ass.
		What's all that about?
		Does that guy work for the government?
		Is he a disinformation agent?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I don't think so.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He really believes that people can transform into reptiles?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Studying the satanic rituals of the elites and what they believe they are, there's a lot of nuts who believe they're vampires.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They're not really vampires.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And so there are a lot of... These elitists do believe that... It's some weird stuff.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So is he on to something with the reptiles?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Joe, I only cover what I can prove and document.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But we are on a planet hurtling through space.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		I mean, really, when you think about what we do have on this planet, it wouldn't be that bizarre if people became lizards.
		I mean, that's a lot less crazy than black holes or tornadoes.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Are we going to do this Dallas thing or am I going to do it?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Tornadoes are pretty crazy.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		Okay, fine.
		No, I don't care.
		I just want to get it out of the way.
		Okay, let's get serious here for a moment.
		Did you see the New York Times last week, where they just admitted that Mohammed Karzai's brothers, the head opium dealer, opium production's up over 12 times since we liberated it, and that our CIA is basically protecting the opium.
		I heard BBC three months ago admit that, but to have the government just going, yeah, we grow the opium, we're going to put you in prison if we catch you with it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I did see that and I found it incredibly fascinating how little it was talked about.
		Like again, let's bring up Watergate.
		Watergate was someone spying on someone.
		The United States government is paying the brother of the President of Afghanistan.
		The CIA is involved.
		They grow 93% of the world's heroin.
		The CIA has a long history of being accused of selling drugs.
		All that together is like, wow!
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They've been caught!
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They've been caught with a plane that crashed recently in Mexico at four tons of cocaine on it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		A pure cocaine CIA aircraft.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Been to Guantanamo Bay on at least one separate occasion.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I think two occasions, right?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well it was flying people all over the world to torture sites.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it was a CIA plane, and it had four tons of cocaine in it, and you hear nothing!
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Pure cocaine, coming from the source!
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's way crazier than Watergate, you know what I'm saying?
		I mean, we put it all into perspective.
		That is incredible corruption.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's why they went after Nixon for a small thing that didn't touch other elites.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's why they went after Clinton for a woman in the White House, because that's a little corruption they can burn them for that doesn't affect all the others.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's amazing how that works.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, how can we not decriminalize drugs when Europe's done it and it's made drug abuse go way down?
		We know prohibition of alcohol tripled alcoholism.
		No, we know the drugs are kept illegal because the big CIA banks are laundering the money.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's that too, and it's also that the politicians, I mean, that's like the big idea, you know, the giant version of it.
		The smaller version of it is that politicians get into office because they support these gigantic businesses that give them millions of dollars to fund their campaigns.
		You know, people that don't think that they're going to be in bed with these companies and that they're going to make decisions based on these companies.
		You're crazy!
		These guys are not going to give politicians millions and millions of dollars towards their campaigns if there's not something in it for them.
		And the something in it for them is they make things illegal that can interfere with their business.
		And natural things are the biggest one.
		Because you can't put a patent on marijuana.
		So the idea is that if you made marijuana legal, it would literally bankrupt the pharmaceutical industry because over a hundred different things that we have pills for, you could just have pot for, and people could grow it in their backyard.
		That's the short answer.
		That's the much more likely scenario.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		And the half a trillion dollars of opium money out of Afghanistan every year is laundered Yeah.
		and leveraged up to $5 trillion.
		And so, of course, they can't decriminalize it because they are laundering the money.
		And the only drug dealers they bust are the people who are cowboys and operate outside of the system.
		I just wonder how the police feel busting teenagers with drugs.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Cops are just doing their job.
		You know, that's the problem with cops is you have douchebags just like you have douchebags that work at Kentucky Fried Chicken.
		You know, there's just going to be a certain percentage of the population are going to be idiots.
		Like, there's a guy recently who arrested a 15-year-old girl for taking photographs of her for JJ and sending them to all the boys in class.
		They arrested this young girl for child pornography.
		They brought her to jail.
		And because of public outrage, they had to drop the case, and they charged her with one count of possession of criminal No, no, they do that all the time.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Sixteen-year-old girls show their breasts and send it to their friends, and they might need to get in a little trouble from their parents, but certainly not arrested as a child pornographer.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Those cops are dummies.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's like, you're going to have that in all walks of life.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I agree, but they're dummies with authority, with a corrupt system that protects them.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yes, absolutely.
		It does protect them.
		Yeah, they protect each other as well.
		Yeah, it's a terrible situation.
		But I don't know what the solution is.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, here's an article out of McClatchy Newspapers.
		They got the internal Goldman Sachs documents that Goldman Sachs, who headed up the private Federal Reserve, the Treasury Department, they had their people in all the government positions, knowingly bet against the housing market while telling people to invest in it, to implode the market.
		So, is Dallas ready?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Have you ever read Matt Taibbi's articles about it?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Matt Taibbi writes articles making fun of me for 9-11 Truth, then he comes along and waters everything down on the Rolling Stone about the private Fed and everybody worships him, but I'm glad he's coming around a little bit.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think that what he's saying about the financial institutions is pretty powerful, because what he does is he breaks it down in a way that the average person can understand it.
		Like me, I have no background in finance whatsoever.
		Barely paid attention in high school to mathematics.
		My attitude was that if there's a calculator and there's batteries, I don't need that.
		There's other things to think about.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And you've done well in business, Joe.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, I haven't.
		I've just done well in comedy and other people have done well in business for me.
		But that guy breaks the whole situation down in a way that someone like me, who doesn't have a background in economics, can understand it.
		It's incredibly corrupt, incredibly deep.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But that's what I mean.
		I mean, you talked about corruption evolves.
		It always gets worse.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's everywhere.
		I mean, that's really the evidence that we see in the financial market, the evidence that we see right now with, you know, the economy falling apart.
		All of this corruption is just a symptom of a much greater evil.
		It's not like this is corrupt, but then you get to world banking and government and, oh, that's not corrupt.
		That part's OK.
		No, the whole system is in bed together.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, how did this idea ever get started that...
		You can charge the balloon dad with the balloon kid for conspiracy, as they're talking about doing last time I saw on the news.
		A conspiracy can exist there to hype a reality TV show, but big banks and elites that are in power, they never conspire together.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, where's the story about the four tons of cocaine?
		Where is that?
		Why is that not in the news?
		Why are they not talking about it?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It was in Reuters, but nowhere in U.S.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		media.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And they dropped it, like that.
		See ya.
		Nothing.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Listen, I see reports.
		There was an AP report of an 18-wheeler in South Texas with more than four tons of pure cocaine.
		The state police busted it.
		The FBI showed up, took it, and said, we're not telling you whose it is.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I believe it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You know, that whole, what was his name, Gary Webb, the guy who was involved in the MENA arson?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And they killed him.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, they killed that guy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That guy was flying cocaine back and forth from other countries to America for years.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, he reported on the guy they killed, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Bunch of guys they killed.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and he was about to narc.
		They had him.
		He was on his way to the courthouse.
		He had George Bush's phone number in his pocket when he was assassinated.
larry kotlikoff ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that was one of the pilots, and then Webb reported on that, so they killed him.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Barry Seales, right?
		That was it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Barry Seales.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And then, yeah, and then Webb as well.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, I mean, they kill people that talk about this.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What do you think about him?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		He's the guy that... I don't agree with his politics, but his info on CIA cocaine's good.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, it's all rock solid.
		That guy busted people.
		He busted people, was told to let it go.
		Because the CIA was selling drugs.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, that's the big accusation, was that the CIA was... Well, he had a CIA girlfriend who was sitting there guiding the aircraft into New Orleans.
		As they were... Yeah, yeah, that's the story you told.
		Just all sorts of wild stuff.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's all crazy.
		It's amazing how little attention gets paid to this, and how much attention gets paid to Balloon Boy, and all these other stupid distractions.
		I mean, gay marriage.
		You think that anybody in government really cares about gay marriage?
		I mean, is that really an issue?
		It's a giant distraction.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, they do have those political football issues that are never going to be resolved.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They're beach balls.
		They just toss them out into the crowd for a big distraction.
		You know, like, the economy's imploding.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Why are we at war?
unidentified		Why are we at war?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, gay marriage!
unidentified		Poof!
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh no, bird flu!
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Bird flu!
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Whatever it is.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Swine flu!
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		It's amazing how obvious it is.
		And that is also one of the reasons why drugs are illegal.
		One of the reasons why drugs are illegal isn't just the economic factor of it, it's the social implications of giving people things that change your consciousness.
		Giving people something that resets your consciousness.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Because the government wants a corner on that to use TV and culture to do the programming.
		They don't want you programming yourself.
		And they want their Ritalin and their Prozac that they know is deadly.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, they also know they don't bring you unique ideas.
		Those things make you sedate, and they make you accept your situation, and they make you calm.
		The drugs that the government is more afraid of are the drugs that aren't... It's not like money drugs.
		There's a lot of money to be made.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They're scared of hallucinogens.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How much money is there to be made in mushrooms?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I mean, is there anybody got a mushroom empire going on?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it can grow everywhere.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but how come they have cocaine empires, and you ever watch cocaine cowboys?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's no mushroom empires.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's because cocaine is geographically limited to one area.
		It's a perfect monopoly drug.
		So out of the thousands of drugs, it's cocaine and heroin the CIA controls that is all over our streets.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that really probably is why it's so expensive.
		Because if you look at it, I mean, making it illegal is what makes it valuable.
		Even though mushrooms are illegal, I mean, that's not, those, they don't sell for much.
		You know, nobody's making a lot of money off of mushrooms.
		That's kind of crazy when you think about it, because mushrooms are way more fun than most drugs.
		Why aren't they hugely popular?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, listen, it's okay for the government to shoot kids up with mercury, give them Ritalin and Prozac that eats holes in their brains, and give them heart palpitations, but don't talk about that devil mushroom on the show here.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Joe Rogan's our guest, stay with us.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Hundreds of nations have fallen to tyranny in the last century alone.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		This is our last chance to not relive history.
alan watt ▲ ● ▼		As we're finishing off this agenda, That we're pulling the rug from underneath Americans at home.
john perkins ▲ ● ▼		I have tremendous influence on our President and Congress, and they really are calling the shots.
jesse ventura ▲ ● ▼		I think it's incumbent upon all of us as American citizens to pay attention.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		For the Republic identifies the enemies of our nation, the criminal offshore cartel, hell-bent on destroying sovereignty and on its ashes constructing world government.
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g edward griffin ▲ ● ▼		Today seems like nobody does care.
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		While the union's our big business band, and it's going out as a dinosaur.
		While they used to grow food in Kansas, and they want to grow it on the moon.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And eat it raw.
		That's Bob Dylan bringing it up.
		How do I get that?
		Do I get that off the iTunes?
		Please don't use the Lord's name in vain, Joe.
unidentified		Oh, sorry.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		G-damned.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Joe Rogan in studio, JoeRogan.net.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's a good goddamn Bob Dylan song.
		How do I get that?
		Do I get that off the iTunes?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Please don't use the Lord's name in vain.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, sorry.
		G-Damn.
		What is the name of that song?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's Sundown on the Union.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Sundown on the Union.
		I like it.
		How prophetic that Dylan felt.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay, we're here at the end of the show.
		We're going to do 20 minutes overdrive.
		Joe Rogan, I really appreciate you being here.
		JoeRogan.net, a wild guy, a patriot, host of the UFC, and so much more.
		And he's going to be at the...
		You were like wild today.
unidentified		What is going on?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We got three, four minutes left in the show.
		I want to end it with AM 1360's Richard Hunter, KMNY, so we can do a quick talk with him so he can air it there locally in drive time and get people calling in about the discussion.
		Good to have you here, Richard.
unidentified		Hey Alex, what's up, Joe?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Hey, what's happening, man?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay, I know this is for your show.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So just go ahead and...
unidentified		I want to ask you guys about swine flu shots because we've got a line around the block here in Dallas to get them.
unidentified		Should I go get in line?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The CFR audio just got released a few days ago where the CFR, Council on Foreign Relations, is internally talking a month ago about people don't want it.
		How do we do it?
		We'll release limited amounts and then hype it up that it's only in certain places so the few idiots that want it all run down there to get it and it creates artificial scarcity like toy companies have been caught staging those Christmas toy riots with local news media that's in on it and then they can make a billion bucks off the, you know, turbo dollar whatever it is.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Everybody wants it and then everybody goes.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so false artificial scarcities was being created, plus it's all over the news that they're forcing school children to take it all over the country, and when they get caught, they say, oops, it was an accident.
		So the truth is, more than 60% of U.S.
		doctors, German doctors, British doctors are refusing to take it.
		Nurses in New York sued so they wouldn't have to take it.
		This stuff is dangerous.
		There's all sorts of autoimmune problems.
		The insert admits it has mercury.
		It can cause Guillain-Barré disorder.
		It can cause autoimmune disorders.
		It can cause sterilization.
		Joe Rogan, host of the Ultimate Fighting Championship, UFC, what's your take on the vaccines?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's certainly a lot of money involved in vaccines, and you have to look at that.
		And anyone who doesn't look at that is a fool.
		There is a lot of money to be made vaccinating all these people.
		We're talking about billions of dollars nationwide.
		And my friend Steve is a doctor.
		And my friend, you know, whenever there's any issue in the news, I call him up.
		I've known him for like 20 years.
		And I said, what is the deal with the swine flu?
		And he said, here's the deal.
		There was an issue going on in Mexico.
		The media jumped on it.
		The media said, look, there's a new flu in Mexico.
		It's very dangerous.
		And only a few people had died from it in comparison to regular flu.
		It was very minuscule, in fact, like the deaths, the fatalities.
		So he said, what happens is the government sees that the media is following this stuff.
		And they said, well, we have to cover our ass now.
		So the government starts Covering their ass and preparing people for the swine flu.
		And then the media says, well look, look what the government's doing.
		And then it gets even crazier.
		And then, of course, the companies that make these inoculations, they come in like crazy.
		Gangbusters.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Joe, you're right that that is part of what happened, but the companies were already making this same H1N1 a year ago before this happened.
		And I covered in January on air that there was going to be a stage flu run because they were training for martial law drills all over the country.
		The good news is the public hasn't bought it, so they're having to pull back, though Obama did declare his emergency.
		We document what's really going on.
		InfoTheRepublic at InfoWars.com.
		But I want to thank AM 1360 for having us on.
		Richard, good to be with you.
unidentified		Thanks, Alex.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		See you, Joe.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Thanks, man.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		There goes Joe Rogan.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He said four words.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		We beat him down.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
		He wanted to interview me.
		During the breaks, I do a lot of radio interviews, just like you do.
		I mean, I bet you do interviews every week, don't you?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, pretty much, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So you think that this is all a scheme?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I know it is.
		Joe, I have the documents.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, I am enjoying having Joe Rogan in studio.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I enjoy being here.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And we've got Ari and we've got Brian.
		Hey, what do you... because I check out joerogan.net, I check out Brian's website, I check out Ari's material, and I don't see... I see some photos and some video posted, but this guy's shooting video at 4 o'clock in the morning when we're in Las Vegas.
		I mean, where is... what is all this video going into?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's the New World Order.
		Brian is the actual New World Order chief.
		He's the head guy.
		It's like, uh, what was that movie with Kaiser Soze?
		You know, when you think that this loser is just a loser, but it turns out he's Kaiser Soze?
		That's Brian's Kaiser Soze.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Now I understand he's like a master of viral internet media.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He is the master.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He's the number one guy.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		He's also the master of hummingbirds.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He knows hummingbirds.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Inside and out.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And I like hummingbirds.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He's a professional video editor.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He just makes brilliant little videos.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, I know, but I'd like to see a big, extended Joe Rogan behind the scenes.
		Joe Rogan!
		Mayhem!
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Most of the interesting stuff we do something with, but a lot of it is, hey, let's go eat.
		A lot of it is, oh, who farted?
		You know what I mean?
		A lot of it is not that interesting.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		All right, Joe, we've got 20 minutes left.
		I am going to try to just sit back, which is hard to do, and shut up.
		And I want Joe Rogan's view on the world, technology advancing at an accelerated rate, humans can't evolve psychologically to deal with it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's absolutely true.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		OK, well, you get where I'm going then.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Talk about that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's a fascinating thing.
		I mean, if you look at physically how we have developed and evolved, we haven't evolved that much over the last thousand, few thousand years.
		But technology has just gone through the roof.
		It's gotten to a crazy place where we have this unbelievable control over our environment, the ability to construct giant buildings and send photos through the air.
		I mean, it's a very, very heady thing, you know.
		And I think it would take an incredibly enlightened society just to deal with what we're capable of right now, never mind what's coming in the future as this exponentially increasing technology, the advancement, the innovation.
		It's all coming at this incredibly rapid pace.
		And physically, we're the same.
		Emotionally, we're still tribal monkeys.
		But we have this incredible power now.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And that's why a lot of scientists believe we won't get to a type one society, meaning a society that survives and gives off planet, that we're probably going to destroy ourselves.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's either that or telepathy.
		Those are the two possibilities.
		The idea of telepathy is ridiculous to people.
		The idea it's like ghosts or Bigfoot or anything nonsense, anything that we don't have hard proof of, you bring it up.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But the studies show it's real.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The studies do show, and it could certainly be real.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		If you can smell things, the idea that you can detect something with your nose that isn't, you can't see it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But you know when somebody's looking through your window at night?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Sometimes.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean I can't tell you how many times.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I have known somebody's looking at me when I'm walking around on my family ranch.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They say that that is the number one way that they can show that there is some sort of a connection between human beings telepathically, is the ability to recognize when someone's staring at you.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They've done scientific studies on that, and they've proven beyond a shadow of a doubt.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Look, 100% of the time, when I'm in a restaurant, and I feel somebody staring at me, especially if it's with bad intent, or some redneck doesn't like me or something, I'll feel it, and I'll turn around, and they'll be going, and we'll go.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's a weird thing, isn't it?
		It's a weird thing that we can detect that.
		You know, and I think that is just, look, at one point in time we couldn't communicate.
		But if you believe in evolution, you have to believe that at one point in time we were monkeys that just grunted and made noises and swung from trees.
		And then something happened where we went from that to where we are now, where we figured out not just one, but Dozens and dozens of systems of communication all over the world, where we write little symbols that mean certain things, and we can say noises with our mouth, and we understand what we're trying to say because of that.
		I mean, that alone, that incredible ability to communicate, I mean, that's a gigantic... But birds know two days before an earthquake.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Or before a tornado and dolphins.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I don't even think it's so much as a primitive thing, but something we always had and are developing because our five senses are in such a limited spectrum of what the mathematics show that there is dimensionally.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I always say that.
		We've talked about this on the show before.
		I call it the fart principle.
		The idea that if someone farted and you didn't have a nose, and you didn't hear it, you'd have no idea.
		You'd be sitting in this horrible smell.
		You'd have no idea.
		But how do we not know that there aren't an infinite number of senses that we just don't have?
		We're not capable of detecting all these other things that are around us all the time.
		Our imagination limits us to thinking that.
		What we know is all that there is.
		You know, that smell and touch and feel.
		And then what we see in front of us is all that there is.
		But it's very possible that our entire existence is just one tiny spot on the radio dial.
		And that there's an infinite number of radio stations.
		There's an infinite number of realities around us all the time.
		We just can't tune into it.
		That we're just oblivious to what we can't detect.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We're a very thin slice.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but what technology may be is a breaking of those barriers.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What we might be able to do with like the Large Hadron Collider and all this crazy manipulation of matter, we might be able to figure out a way to break into other dimensions.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And the mathematics shows...
		That stuff a hundred years ago developed the A-bomb equations on a chalkboard.
		This is a exponential multi-level, not one jump, but several jumps past that.
		And they believe scientists that work there are sabotaging it because they've had blowups and disasters and they can't get the thing started.
		It's not just that it's so giant.
		They're not just going to be slamming heavy particles into blocks of lead.
		They're going to be accelerating uranium, plutonium, and other very explosive, unstable isotopes into each other at light speed.
		And the scientists say, well, it could create a black hole.
		It could create a strangelet.
		It could create a quantum particle that sinks to the center of the Earth and begins replicating, and then, boom, the whole planet's gone.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		We can't help it.
		We have this incredible desire to change things.
		And I think it's much like a caterpillar does not recognize that it's going to become a butterfly.
		At least we don't think they are.
		They're not aware of it.
		They just do what they have to do.
		They make their cocoon, and then they go, and they change.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I agree with you.
		All of this technology is a metamorphosis, and the elite believe that.
		And we covered that in my film, Endgame Blueprint for Global Enslavement.
		And they openly, I mean, all the top scientists, futurists, government, UN people, they said they want to exterminate 90% of us and allow that 10% to fuse with the man-machine interface and then take off to the stars.
		Now whether that's real or not, that's what the elite believe, and they already have life extension technologies they don't want the public to have access to.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It sounds ridiculous, but from where we are, it's not as big of a leap as where we're living or the era we're living in right now in comparison to people that we know existed, like the Indians or cavemen.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Computers would be magic to them.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, man.
		I mean, just the ability to download something off the internet on your iPhone.
		I mean, that is one of the craziest things that's ever existed.
		The Google search.
		The ability to take your phone, Google something, find out information on a topic instantaneously.
		They didn't even have that on Star Trek.
		I mean, that is such a gigantic monumental leap of access to information.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And when Magellan 600 years ago Or 400 years ago, circumnavigated the entire world.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They didn't even know what was out there.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right, yeah, they just took chances.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		He didn't make it back.
		Almost everyone died when the ship came back to Portugal.
		It was rotting and falling apart, and only a few guys were alive.
unidentified		Nuts.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But imagine, they had no idea.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		He said, I think it's round, and I'm going around it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, there's rats on board with them, they're all getting scurvy because nobody had vitamin C. Those early traveler dudes were nuts.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, the really nutty idea is the idea of guys like Graham Hancock, guys who believe that those early traveler dudes were just this generation's version of that, and that there's been many, many thousands of years of civilization that we don't even know about because there was a lot of doubt.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		A lot of evidence does show that it gets built up.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And then destroyed.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I mean, look, we know that there's hundreds of thousands of near-Earth objects between Mars and Jupiter that could just crush this Earth.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You know, we know it's happened many, many times.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Look at Saturn and Shoemaker-Levy comets.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
		I mean, look at all, yeah, look at that.
		And also look at what we know has happened on this planet that comes from this planet.
		Like, like Yellowstone.
		Like, they've just figured out within the last decade that Yellowstone is this gigantic caldera volcano that's 600 kilometers across.
		And every time it blows, it's like a continent killer.
		It blows every six to eight hundred thousand years and it kills everything on the continent.
		And it happened 600,000 years ago.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And the scientists, I've had top volcanologists on, the government admits that's true, and the public has a built-in denial switch where I get emails saying, you're a liar, Yellowstone is not a caldera.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's like a gigantic game of musical chairs.
		It's like, we hope that we are not going to be here when the music stops.
		You know, that's what we hope, that while our life is here, and while our family's life is here, and our grandchildren, everything's going to be okay.
		I think that life on Earth is very much like an anthill in a field.
		You know, the ants in that anthill, they have known nothing other than that anthill.
		They've only been alive for a couple weeks.
		As long as they've been alive, that anthill's been there.
		That anthill sustains them all, and they think this is just how it always is.
		And then some little kid walks by, sees that anthill, and stomps on it.
		One day.
		Just out of the blue.
		And everything changes.
		Forever.
		And the ants never saw it coming.
		They never knew it was going to happen.
		If they had consciousness, they never would have imagined it.
		Well, there's so many things that can happen to stomp our anthill.
		There's meteors.
		There's earthquakes.
		There's caldera volcanoes.
		The gigantic super volcano that is Yellowstone Park.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Did you know Germany has a super caldera?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, they're all over the planet.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'm sure.
		I mean, it makes sense.
		I mean, if you look at mountains, I mean, where did those mountains come from?
		They came from activity.
		You know, they raise up, and it just takes a long-ass time.
		And we're only here on this planet for a blip.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And by the way, until the 90s, when Saturn got hit by that comet that broke in all those pieces, Scientists argued and said, no, only every billion years do we get hit by a big object.
		Now, because of the satellites and everything, they know we get hit every couple hundred years by gigantic objects.
		Instead, the government's worried about spying on the citizens and controlling us, instead of dealing with all these objects.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't know what they can do, man.
		I don't know what they can do.
		I think the idea of monitoring the entire 360 degrees of Earth's sky is virtually impossible.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		If they turned the satellites around and started trying, they could.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You think so?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I've seen the studies on it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, then what do you do when one's coming?
		You got some five-mile-wide hunk of metal that's heading towards the Earth.
		What do you do?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You put weapon systems in space, but then you don't want their treaties against that, because whoever has weapon systems can turn them back towards Earth.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Don't worry, Joe, the weapon systems are there.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I'm sure they are.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I mean, you know, I've read all that stuff about the Star Wars scientists, how many different scientists turned out missing or dead, some strange, you know... Bob Bowman's in the hospital right now.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		He's actually in Fall of the Republic.
		He was the head of Star Wars.
		And he won't talk about it when I talk to him in private, but he said, I'll tell you what's declassified, because NSA spokesmen and Space Command spokesmen have let some of it out.
		When he was there in the late 70s, they announced it in the 80s, it was around the 70s, They had an entire fleet of unmanned aircraft up there, Black Manas space planes, but they don't use nuclear weapons, they use meteor guns.
		And they drop solid DU-SABOs into orbit that accelerate to 30,000 miles an hour, and they can kill people five miles under the ground.
		And it's a global decapitation weapon where they can wipe out the whole leadership of the world in a matter of minutes.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And that's all real stuff?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's ultra, ultra top-secret stuff that's leaked, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Meteor guns?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That sounds like an episode of Scooby-Doo.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, no, no, no.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it... It doesn't ex... It has a rocket booster on the back of, say, a 100-pound sabot.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What's a sabot?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's, say, where you take a .223 round and shoot it out of a .50 caliber round so it has even more acceleration power.
		And it's a SABO because it's got a rocket booster on it.
		So it would speed up to 18,000, 20,000 miles an hour.
		Instead, 30,000, 35,000, 40,000 miles an hour.
		The space planes are already going.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That is like the speed of meteors, right?
		Yes.
		45,000 miles an hour.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And that's why it's called a meteor gun because when these birds are about to attack, they accelerate coming in at an angle on the atmosphere to accelerate so there's already a greater acceleration than a meteor would normally have.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Then they fire with a high-powered rocket booster, a solid DU round, which with its kinetic energy, when it hits, has the power of a medium-yield nuclear weapon.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Goddamn!
		I believe it.
		You know, I mean, I believe that it's possible.
		I believe if they're willing to blow up Hiroshima and Nagasaki the way they did, why wouldn't they come up with something like that?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, believe me, the NSA will be watching this later.
		Joe, what do you want to say?
		You want to say hi to them?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I want to say I'm a true patriot.
		I pay my taxes.
		Leave me alone, please.
		What are you going to say?
		The real problem is that we are moving in a certain direction.
		We've been moving in this direction for a long time in this society and in virtually every society that's ever existed.
		Every society that has incredible power eventually winds up going into corruption and falling apart.
		Every empire collapses.
		And it's because of corruption.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Exactly, but this scientific dictatorship admits in their public documents that they've studied all of that and they've built a scientific dictatorship so people can't get out of it.
		Joe, I have hundreds, we talk about documents, but I have hundreds of documents, textbooks, government books and reports, UN documents.
		Pentagon documents.
		This was written by the White House Science Czar, John P. Holdren.
		And it was written by one of Bush's advisors, Bush Senior, Paul R. Ehrlich.
		This calls for putting sterilisants in the water to sterilize people, the vaccines, poisoning us, world population reductions of 80%.
		It is real.
		And a lot of people can rationalize and say, yeah, there are too many people.
		Instead of understanding, wait, I'm under attack too.
		They are attacking us.
		And this guy recently declassified chemtrails, and it made almost no news, and said, yeah, we've been spraying you with barium salts and aluminum dioxide.
		What do you say to that?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What is the chemtrails?
		What's the purpose of the chemtrails?
		Is it weather control experiments?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yes, yes.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		He says geoengineering or terraforming to save us from global warming.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's certainly a difference in the way the clouds look.
		If you look at some clouds that are way up high, or rather some trails from jets, it's like they dissipate.
		They're in the air like they always have been, and then as the plane is moving, you can actually see them dissipate.
		But then you have these other ones that, like, they linger and they spread out and they literally become clouds.
		In LA, those, they're everywhere.
		You know, I don't know what that is.
		Honestly, I have not looked into it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, the incredible thing is scientists that were outside the government did test it, did look at it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They said it's barium salts.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How did they test it?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They went up in the air and scooped it up?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yes, they used aircraft and also got ground samples.
		And they said, this is barium salts, aluminum dioxide, weather modification, nuclei.
		They declassified some of it five years ago.
		I got Ben Levinson, the father of weather weapons, on.
		Then, eight months ago, Poldren, the White House science archives, a press conference, and says, we've been studying it and it's aluminum dioxide, barium salts.
		We're doing it to save you.
		And it turns out a guy got a Nobel Prize in 92 for developing it.
		But the point is there's a giant weather modification program going on.
		They finally admit it and it's no big deal.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's pretty crazy.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Joe, in the last five minutes or so we have in this special transmission, I want to thank you for coming in.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I know you're a guy that loves freedom and is against... Who doesn't?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Who hates freedom?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The globalists hate freedom.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No one's sitting around going, man, I hate freedom.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Maybe prisoners that get institutionalized.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, the establishment, the establishment doesn't like freedom.
		They want to condition people, brainwash them, control them.
		Let's spend some time here on some lighter notes.
		Is Brock Lesnar ever going to fight Fedor?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well Brock Lesnar right now has mononucleosis.
		Brock Lesnar has not been able to train and they've postponed his fight.
		He was supposed to be fighting Shane Carwin.
		And that was in November, and they had to postpone it to January.
		Now there's talk that they may have to postpone it even further if he can't train.
		Because he's been really sick.
		He hasn't been able to train.
		And then Lesnar, or Shane Carlin rather, had a H1N1.
		He lost like 20 pounds due to the flu.
		So it's, you know, Brock's in a bad situation right now.
		There's a bunch of guys that have mono.
		I've heard it.
		My friend is one of the members of Jeremy Horne's gym.
		Jeremy Horne's a pretty famous MMA fighter.
		And at least two guys from his gym came down with mono.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Why?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Spreading.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You know, I think mono is an infectious disease, right?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You can transmit it from person to person.
		And these guys, you know, when you're training, you're doing jiu-jitsu and wrestling with each other.
		That's a lot of sweating on each other.
		And you get each other's bugs, you know.
		That's why you never want to...
		do jujitsu with a guy who's got a cold because you're going to get his cold.
		You sweat on each other, you know?
		I mean, it's kind of gross when you think about it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I hear you're a pretty good jujitsu guy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'm pretty good.
		I'm decent, you know?
		For guys who aren't good, I'm good.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Didn't you wasn't there some talk about you and fighting some movie star?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it was Wesley Snipes.
		Yeah, it was his idea.
		But he changed his mind.
		But I was training for it.
		I just thought, he doesn't know jiu-jitsu.
		If you don't know jiu-jitsu and someone grabs a hold of you, it's like, what are you going to do?
		Adlib your way out of this?
		I'm going to choke you.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You don't know what you're doing.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Jiu-Jitsu is like a long process.
		It takes a long time to learn.
		And someone who really doesn't understand it, he has no knowledge of it at all.
		If you watch the early UFCs, you see how that goes.
		You know, Hoist Gracie gets on top of you and chokes you out.
		That's what happens.
		It's a very complex martial art.
		If you don't understand it or at least have some defense, you're in a lot of trouble.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So it's more like chess versus... Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's technique.
		It's technique and understanding of the positions.
		And most people just don't know what to do and your natural instincts will betray you every time.
		If you don't know jujitsu and someone does and you roll with them every single time, your natural instincts give you up.
		You don't realize that you're making mistakes.
		You don't know what you're defending against.
		You don't know what's coming.
		So you don't know how to put yourself in the right position.
		So you give up a position.
		And if you give up a position with a guy who knows jujitsu, he's going to tap you out.
		It's just how it goes.
		It's a helpless feeling.
		When I first learned Jiu Jitsu, starting out, it was like a white belt.
		I remember just getting dominated by guys, where they would just crush you.
		They would just grab you, get on top of you, and choke you, and there's nothing you can do about it.
		And it's a horribly helpless feeling.
		You know, Ari is getting pretty good now.
		Ari's a blue belt.
		Are you a blue belt yet?
		No?
		But he's tapped some people.
		You've tapped some people, right?
		He's been doing it for a couple years.
		But when Ari started out, not only was Ari, like, not doing any sports, he wasn't doing anything.
		He was smoking cigarettes, and he was just dri- Basketball.
		You played basketball every now and then?
		How often?
		Like, once or twice a week.
unidentified		Once or twice a week, folks.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Basketball.
		Okay, so he played a little basketball.
		But, you know, I mean, he went from no martial arts experience whatsoever to, you know, actually tapping guys out.
unidentified		Young in there.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'm proud of him.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So it's really good for people for self-defense.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it's great for self-defense and it's also great for exercise because it's really fun.
		It's interesting, you know.
		What's that?
unidentified		If you're looking to rape.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, if you're looking to get good at rape, it's the best.
		Boy or girl, whatever you're trying to do.
		It's a fascinating sport.
		It's a fascinating martial art because it's a whole series of movements and it's never-ending.
		Like, me and a buddy of mine were just drilling a new move the other day and we're talking about it.
		He's a brown belt, I'm a brown belt too, and he's like, it never ends.
		There's always a new move.
		There's a new sweep.
		And this new sweep that we were learning the other day is just this revolutionary new sweep.
		And everybody's like, man, how did I not see this before?
		But it's always been there.
		It's just the movements of people.
		When you have unlimited mobility with your body, you can move, especially if you're really flexible, you move your body in a certain way, and then you got two arms to attack, two legs to attack, and the neck.
		And there's so many different possibilities, so many different ways to attack someone.
		It's really like a kinetic game of chess.
		It really is.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And a lot of people aren't looking for a fight, so they never train in any type of martial art.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's stupid.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But everybody should get their girls, their boys.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Everybody should be trained to defend yourself.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it's always important to be the one who makes the decision whether or not you get hurt.
		You know, if some guy can just throttle you and you don't know how to defend yourself, you're in a terrible situation.
		You don't know how to defend yourself, you know, you could run into some nut, and some nut decides to beat you up.
		I mean, I've seen it happen before, where guys just get, they're crying and they're begging, and the guy's kicking them when they're down.
		Have you ever seen a situation like that?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's horrible to watch, to watch a guy have his manhood taken away by someone just because he doesn't know how to defend himself.
		You know, and most of the time you're never going to run into that situation.
		Most of the time, if you hang out in good circles, you're going to live your life and not have to worry about it.
		But you might.
		You know, you might.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I don't know, man.
		I grew up in Dallas.
		I don't know if it's still like that up there, but there are a lot of really bad people that like to get in fights.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's a lot of people all over the country that are angry, man.
		It's people that have terrible jobs, terrible relationships, and terrible upbringings, and they want to kick your ass.
		They don't care.
		They want to kick your ass.
		You know, and you've got to be aware of those.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, I was like a nice little kid when I was like 10, 11, 12, and kids were like 5, 6 years older would beat me up.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And that ended up making me a little bit stronger, but it would have been great if somebody would have put me in something like Jiu Jitsu way back then, because I wouldn't have learned how to just have knockdown drag outs with people.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You could still enjoy it now.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How old are you now?
unidentified		35.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Look, you've still got time, man.
		You can train.
		You can learn.
		You can get good at it.
		And so it's a fun thing to do for exercise.
		Because, you know, getting in the gym and just getting on the elliptical machine and lifting weights, it can get pretty tedious.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, it does.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Jiu-Jitsu is like always fun to do.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You know, you're playing a game and the game it's like literally like my friend Eddie who teaches me describes it as like like a video game.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Eddie Bravo!
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Eddie Bravo.
		Who's probably one of the most innovative, not the most innovative jiu-jitsu instructor ever.
		He's a, because he smokes pot.
		He smokes pot and comes up with all these crazy moves.
		And he describes it as like you're playing a video game and the video game is that you're trying to kill somebody.
		I mean it really is like that.
		It's like you're, it's a real live game.
		And the game is trying to checkmate somebody.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Amazing.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		In closing, Joe.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		In closing.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		JoeRogan.net.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You've recently been shooting a movie.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I shot a movie called The Zookeeper with Kevin James.
		It was a fun movie.
		It's like a kid's movie.
		I play a real douchebag.
		It's fun.
		I play his enemy.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You play the bad guy?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, it was fun.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It was a real, real asshole.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It was fun to play.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It was fun.
		You know, it's an interesting thing.
		I haven't done a movie in a long time, and never a real one like this one.
		All the movies, I've done two movies and they were both crap.
		And, you know, doing TV shows.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I gotta remember to turn my phone off on air.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's the New World Order calling you.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Hold on one second.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We're tired of you.
unidentified		Hello?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You're talking on the radio and then you're answering the phone.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You know, I'm sorry, I'm on air right now.
		Let me call you back as soon as I'm off.
		Alright, alright, thank you, sorry.
unidentified		Who was that?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It was Press TV in Tehran.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's hilarious.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The Iranians are gone.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They must love you.
		You're all anti-U.S.
		government.
		See, we told you.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We have the information.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		We have the documents.
		They must love you over there, right?
		What do you think?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		How do Russian TV, British, Japanese, everything?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What's going to happen with us in Iran and Pakistan?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The word is they're planning to hit Iran in two years unless they do what they're told by the globalists.
		They're not building nukes.
		The Russians have built it.
		It's non-weapon.
		The U.S.
		gave Pakistan nukes to menace India and Pakistan and China.
		So it's all a global geopolitical chess game.
		It's the school of Zbigniew Brzezinski.
		He's kind of the Eddie Bravo of geopolitics.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What is going on with North Korea?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's like a chess game with like 50 levels.
		North Korea was given the nukes by Rumsfeld as the head of ABB in 1996, so they could destabilize that and have a reason to attack him.
		And of course the dictators are always like, yes, give me!
		But it's like in the old western of Bill Hicks' line, where the guy throws that movie, the movie that he talked about.
		It's in a bunch of movies.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Is that it?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I don't know, but I've seen it like in other movies.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You see it in that one Clint Eastwood, which is based on a true story.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Jack Palance, right?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Pick up the gun, kid!
		Yeah, where they throw the gun down to get him to pick it up.
		But there's also that Clint Eastwood movie where he goes to the mining town, and they kill the guy's dad, and then they throw the gun down in front of the kid and say, pick it up.
		I mean, that's actually happened in some real Western stories.
		That's why you see it in so many movies.
		But that's it.
		They're just giving him a gun.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Crazy.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Tell me about Cap City Comedy Club.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's a fun place.
		I filmed my very first DVD there back in 1999.
		The one that you and me wore the George Bush mask and danced around the Capitol.
		Remember that?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		People are so silly though.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They think that's footage of a secret satanic ritual.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		We had feather boas on.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I had a feather boa.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, we're out there at the Capitol.
		We're running around acting like we're the devil and Bush and then they think we're serious.
		Hey, finishing up, how crazy is it that there's all these websites that really believe I'm Bill Hicks?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's amazing.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And they're doing voice analysis and everything else?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, that just goes to show you, people will believe almost anything.
		You know, there's a lot of dopes out there.
		That's why, you know, they don't want people organising, like we were talking about Waco earlier.
		The reason why they don't want that is not just that they don't want people to be able to protect themselves from the government, there's probably a little bit of that, but there's also, they don't want warlords.
		They don't want people to do like what's going on in Afghanistan, to be able to start their own cults and arm everybody and control these groups of people because it's not hard to control people.
		We have a defect in our operating system and you can exploit that defect with confidence and with, you know, a clear doctrine of what's supposed to go down and what's supposed to happen.
		You could say that you're getting this information from aliens or higher power or what Joseph Smith said, you know, he got it from golden tablets that had the lost work of Jesus on it.
		It's not hard to do.
		And you could start your own group.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's because we're very similar to dogs.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's why dogs live with us, is they follow the alpha.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And they follow confidence and leadership.
		But again, the biggest cult is the globalists, and they happen to be a eugenics death cult.
		So what I'm saying is I'd rather have a few Jim Joneses or people running around.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't know about that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, also, he was tied in the CIA.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But the point is there's got to be a middle ground.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's got to be, you know, let people have their guns to defend themselves.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's what's so good about Ron Paul.
		He is not a cult leader.
		He's a doctor.
		He's a mainline guy.
		And we need to follow him instead of the cult of Republicans and Democrats.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I agree 100% and when he talks about these vaccinations he says it's absolutely ridiculous and he talks about how the regular flu is so much more deadly and killed so many more people per year than this swine flu and everybody's jumping all over this and they're making a big deal out of it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, and again, it's common sense that this is killing about one-fifth in the flu season, what the regular flu does.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How much money do they make?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They've made $7 billion.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		A week ago, the Boston Globe reported that in the last week and a half, five drug makers had made $7 billion extra in a week and a half.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		God damn!
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		All from vaccinations.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		$7 billion extra.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That is incredible.
		That's incredible.
		And does this get reported in mainstream news?
		Does anybody look at it as a possible angle?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		A lot of people are pointing it out, and it is starting to come out in mass media.
		Folks, I'll be back live tomorrow, 11 a.m.
		to 3 p.m.
		Central.
		That's 12 noon to 4 p.m.
		Eastern, and back Sunday, 4 to 6 p.m.
		He'll be at the Cap City Comedy Club.
		Tonight, Friday night, Closer to Victory, ladies and gentlemen!
		You're doing three shows, right?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Tonight, one show tonight, two tomorrow, and two Saturday.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So that's five shows you can get if you're in Central Texas or anywhere around.
		And then you can go to JoeRogan.net and find out other places you're going to be playing.
		Yes.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And you can follow me on Twitter.
		JoeRogan.net, all spelled out.
		That's me on Twitter.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		On Twitter.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'm on Twitter.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Joe, I want to really thank you for coming in.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I want to thank you for having me.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I appreciate it, brother.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We're going to go eat some red meat.
unidentified		Hell yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But Soon is going to have a carbon tax on it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, really?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Your meat is going to have a carbon tax on it?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Paid right to Al Gore, the little bastard.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Damn bastard.
		Damn Al Gore.
		Al Gore has made a lot of money off of this global warming.
		That's one thing that people don't realize.
		Al Gore only had a couple million bucks in 2001, and now he recently made some $35 million investment, which just shows how much money he's accumulated over the years.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And that investment was given Obama money.
		So, so, I mean, look, the guy's worth over a billion bucks.
		He owns Occidental Petroleum.
		He hides his wealth.
		He's the carbon company credit.
		It's called Blood & Gore.
		Not joking.
		His partner's called Blood.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's incredible.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Over in England.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Joe?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They call him the first green billionaire.
unidentified		Yep.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's what they're calling him.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		He's a scam artist.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		He's the guy that sold his napkin again.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's amazing.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		He says he invented the frickin' internet.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't think he actually said that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He said he was a part of the whole process.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		He's a congenital liar.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Is that like herpes?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It sounds congenital.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It means just he was born a liar.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, really?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		He was born.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Did he be born with herpes?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Damn.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Talk about coming out of the gate with a terrible hand.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Al Gore is a big evil Nelly.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		He is a big evil Nelly.
unidentified		That's the inconvenient truth, right?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		All right, buddy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, my friend.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Joe Rogan.
		Great job, crew.
		Closer to victory.
		Hey.
		All the Republic, Joe.
		Here, you got your copies?
		We have the documents, gentlemen.
		Documentation!
		Camp FEMA!
unidentified		You are not coming to my woman's uterus!
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Documents!
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We're out of here.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right here, ladies and gentlemen.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		All the information you need.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, little balloons at the end.
		Don't ever use that graphic again.
		My God, you're in trouble.

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