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	Big Brother, Mainstream Media, Government Cover-Ups.
	You want answers?
	Well, so does he.
	He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
	And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
	Look, we've had a lot of great calls dealing with the flu and medical workers being told they're being told they've got to take it, there's no law, it's just made up.
	I got a guest coming on for about 30 minutes and I'm going to continue with your calls.
	But I want to cycle through the calls and get people to call in who see NLE09 martial law takeover drill going on.
	That's not me saying that, FEMA says that.
	This is foreign troops with U.S.
	troops in FEMA and local police in a federalization drill which practices federalizing everything and then bringing the federal government under international control.
	Hi, Alex.
	Hey, buddy.
	Yeah, I have a question about the flu vaccination.
	Now, I understand that there's no real laws about the vaccinations and its policies and recommendations.
	Yeah, there's never been a law.
	There's an executive order signed by Bush and then reauthorized by Obama.
	But when they run around saying, oh, you gotta take the shot currently, they haven't implemented that.
	Notice you don't hear the White House saying it.
	They're just at the ground level so nobody gets spooked saying you gotta take the shot.
	Go ahead.
	What will the legal disposition of that be if they make it mandatory?
	Will that be an executive order or a real law or how will that work?
	Do we know?
	Yes, look, they're not going to be able to get everybody vaccinated this time.
	They try each time to set up the federal bureaucracy, not just here but worldwide, to force everybody onto this, to set the precedent, kind of as just a background idea that it's the law that you've got to take shots.
	And so they force police, medical workers, firemen.
	And most say no.
	Most departments wake up and say no.
	Some departments have particularly cowardly, dumb people in them and weak-minded police chiefs and they accept, or weak-minded hospital heads.
	The last straw was when Tommy Thompson wouldn't even take the shot.
	He was saying, it's the law, you gotta take it.
	And people said, what law?
	And I had fire chiefs and police chiefs on and hospital heads saying no.
	In fact, not just no, hell no.
	So, uh, but they'll just keep coming back.
	Just like we won't let them pass carbon taxes the last five times, they're back again and this time pass it to the House.
	Coming back.
	They tried dozens of times, for more than 30 years, to pass hate crimes laws that restrict free speech.
	They finally passed it out of the House.
	It's now passed the Senate.
	It's going into conference.
	They just keep coming back, because they've got the fighting spirit, because they know the fight belongs to who wants it most.
	And we just got to get into the fight and say, it's fun to fight these people.
	But see, once they get you to be self-centered and selfish, you don't care about anybody, including yourself.
	And once people have that attitude, it's an atmosphere where corruption and evil run wild.
	I know you are making a difference in my life, Alex.
	I work at a store.
	I keep Endgame in circulation.
	There's a waiting list for it right now.
	I got two copies.
	I keep it circulating.
	And now, more than ever,
	People are staying in that store after they buy their stuff, and they're listening to what I have to say.
	Whereas in the past, they would just give me a weird look and leave.
	So it's very encouraging, and I thank you for that.
	Well, God bless you, my friend.
	Just keep waking people up, keep getting involved, keep spreading the word.
	I mean, look, we've gone from 5, 10, 15 percent listening to us 10 years ago, to the media's almost panicking, going, everybody's a conspiracy theorist now!
	Nobody believes what we don't...
	And that's right.
	No one believes anything they say.
	Even though a lot of the time the media tells the truth, because it's an issue that doesn't matter.
	People don't believe anything now from this scum, and that's healthy.
	That's how people were a hundred years ago.
	That's what it is to be free!
	Oh, that old-timer up on the hill, he doesn't believe anything in the newspaper.
	He's dumb.
	Well, we're just finding out right now how smart that old-timer was.
	To stop being suckers.
	God bless you folks.
	We'll be right back with an important guest on the other side.
	Stay with us.
	Hello, this is Alex Jones with some important questions.
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	...for other associates of C-Street, the secretive ministry and living quarters for several members of Congress, at which Governor Sanford and Senator John Enson of Nevada both received some sort of counseling during their extramarital affairs.
	A number of other C-Street affiliates are now going on the record about the shadowy organization, mainly to defend its secrecy.
	Senator Jim Inhofe of Oklahoma telling Roll Call newspaper, quote,
	It's a great place, and vowing to continue holding foreign policy meetings with African ambassadors at the C Street House.
	Former Ohio Congressman Tony Hall tells Politico.com the prayer breakfasts he attended at C Street were, quote, probably some of the best moments I had during the week, precisely because we closed the doors.
	Sea Street is also in the news anew because of something that happened on the House floor last week.
	A member of Congress, one with ties to Sea Street, argued against public funding for abortion services by saying that if there were public funding for abortion, Barack Obama might have been aborted as a fetus.
	Also, Clarence Thomas.
	If you think of it in human terms,
	There is a financial incentive that will be put in place, paid for by tax dollars, that will encourage women who are single parents, living below the poverty level, to have the opportunity for a free abortion.
	If you take that scenario and apply it to many of the great minds we have today, who would we have been deprived of?
	Our president grew up in those similar circumstances.
	If that financial incentive was in place, is it possible that his mother may have taken advantage of it?
	Clarence Thomas, Supreme Court Justice.
	If those circumstances were in place, is it possible that we have been denied his great mind?
	That's Representative Todd T. Hart, Republican of Kansas.
	I wonder how he settled on those two.
	Clarence Thomas and Barack Obama.
	What do they have in common?
	Everybody knows the war is over.
	Everybody knows the good guy's lost.
	Hello, folks.
	Here in the last two hours of the radio show today, we're simulcasting at PrisonPlanet.tv in living color.
	I want to thank all the PrisonPlanet.tv members for joining us and all the AM and FM shortwave satellite internet listeners as well, and the folks listening to the free podcast later at InfoWars.com.
	Jeff Charlotte.
	I've seen him on a lot of national TV programs and I read an article he wrote for the New York Times.
	He is a New York Times best-selling author of The Family, The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power.
	I actually saw an article about him in the New York Times.
	And a contributing editor to Harper's and Rolling Stone.
	Has been writing about the intersection of religion, politics, and culture for more than a decade.
	His writing on religion has earned him praise from writers, and it goes on from there.
	His new book is The Family, and we've got that up on screen for everybody.
	The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power.
	He's here with us for most of the hour, then wide open phones coming up at the end of the hour, and in the fourth hour, covering the flu hype and NLEO-9, martial law drills going on.
	So that's coming up.
	Jeff, thank you for coming on with us.
	Hey Alex, thanks for having me.
	It's a real honor.
	This, the family, and then how it ties into Ashcroft's group, the Brotherhood, that's also out of another house or the same house.
	It all gets confusing.
	There's other secretive right-wing Christian groups, like the Council on National Policy.
	There's a lot of different organizations, and I haven't studied them all, but I've tried to look at some of them.
	Tell us, tell us about how you woke up to this group.
	Well, uh, Professor Tate, uh, C Street, not K Street, and, you know... C Street!
	There you go.
	Yes, see, I'm going to mark it.
	We think of K Street as, as the kind of, uh, the avenue of influence in Washington.
	I think we've got it now.
	Got a lobbyist.
	I had a Freudian slip.
	Sorry, go ahead.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Whether they're acting like it or not.
	Uh, you know, it began, I was, uh, uh, several years ago, I was working on, uh, uh, my first book.
	I was traveling around the country and, uh, spending time with unusual religious communities, and a friend of mine, uh, worried that her, her brother had joined a cult.
	Uh, said, would you meet with him?
	Uh, this was way back in, uh, 2011.
	And, uh, so this guy came up, I'd known him for 12 years, and frankly, he'd always been kind of a jerk.
	Um, but he, he had really turned his life around, uh, despite the fact he left his career, left his, uh, relationship to move to Washington and be of service to powerful people.
	And he said, look, you won't understand it unless you see it.
	And you can't get in unless you're invited.
	And I said, well, how do I apply?
	And he said, there are no applications.
	There's just a family.
	So, that sounded interesting to me.
	Not as a believer, but just as a person who is interested about the variety of the religious experience, you might say.
	So, I went down and spent about a month living with these guys.
	And I didn't know it was political at first, but then we had a visit from Senator Jesse Helms.
	I said, okay, all right.
	Well wait a minute, I mean this doesn't sound, and I'm not defending the group because I don't even know enough about it to even get its name right, but C Street, the family, C Street's the name, and obviously the house.
	If it's such a cult, and I do agree it looks pretty culty, why did they just let you right in then?
	You know, first of all, I actually say that they are not a cult.
	I don't think they are cultish, but not a cult.
	You know, the cult has certain characteristics.
	They are cultish.
	They've got the cult of personality around their leader, Doug Coe.
	But what they really believe, they really believe in the sort of networks of elites.
	And so because I was invited, that's the only way you get in.
	You get invited.
	So because I was invited by this guy, that made me sort of okay.
	And I think they were actually interested in the fact
	Okay, but I mean they're pretty confident then about the way they operate and the way they work to let a prominent journalist into their midst though.
	I wouldn't say I was prominent at that point, but they've been around for 70 years.
	They do believe in secrecy.
	The leader of the group, Doug Coase, says the more invisible you can make your organization, the more influence it will have.
	Okay, so you did infiltrate to a certain level, so this is cultish then.
	Yeah, oh, it's absolutely cultish.
	I mean, uh, you know, there's a cult of personality around this guy Doug Coe, whom they sometimes call First Brother.
	They say he has a special relationship with God, unparalleled by anyone else in the world.
	Uh, and that, uh, also that the Inner Circle members, and here's where it gets really creepy when we're talking about Senator and Governor Stanford, guys linked to the group,
	The inner circle members are not bound by the same morality that applies to the rest of us.
	The morality is a human construct and God has a different story ready for these powerful men.
	Now is this the same group that Ashcroft's part of?
	Because I saw articles like four or five years ago about and did some research about Ashcroft part of a house he lived at and other people that were members.
	I mean is this the only group like this or are you aware of others?
	Yeah, so that was your article I did read about how they don't really care about abortion and they like Machiavelli, wasn't it?
	I'm going from memory here.
	Not as much as John Ashcroft.
	I found letters dating back to the early 1980s.
	John Ashcroft was writing to the leader of the group, Doug Coe, first brother, saying that he wanted to get involved and could he be helped.
	And that's what the family has done historically.
	They've identified guys that they think they can work with and then they groomed them and sort of raised them up the political ladder.
	Doug Coe, the leader of the group, he likes to say, we work with power where we can.
	Okay, well I know I'm throwing a lot of points in here because over the years I've done research here and there, but you forget a lot more than you, you know,
	Then you can actually comprehend, but I know there's all these weird secretive groups.
	Did you ever run into any connections in this group with Masons, Masonic groups, or with Opus Dei Catholic groups, or with the CNP, Council on National Policy?
	There's a lot of overlap with the CNP, guys like Ed Meese and various members like that.
	But one of the most interesting connections I did find was Opus Dei.
	And you might almost describe the family as kind of a Protestant Opus Dei, but they lack even the integrity of Opus Dei.
	I don't know.
	From our research, I got to spend a lot of time with Senator Sam Roundback of Kansas, who has a unique distinction of being a member of the family and an associate of Opus Dei.
	He converted to a very strange kind of Catholicism through Opus Dei's chapel, which, appropriately enough, actually is on K Street in Washington.
	Okay, see, those are the questions I haven't seen asked on television.
	I've read your articles over the years and haven't read your book yet, though we just got it.
	And so I've got a piece here, a piece there, and I'm trying to delve more into the architecture of left-wing and right-wing groups.
	Did you ever run into any connections to Bohemian Grove?
	Because a lot of, quote, Christian conservatives that have these big public personas as Christian conservatives also go to the Grove that Richard Nixon described as a homosexual orgy.
	I don't know about that part, but Doug Coe certainly is a long-time, Doug Coe, the leader of the group, is a long-time attendee, and you know, certainly we're talking about guys like Ed Meese, former Attorney General Ashcroft, Senator Enson, we're talking about the power elite.
	And so they do go to Bohemian Grove, there is a Vatican connection, there is a Bohemian Grove connection, it's just always the same.
	Well, you know, I'm actually wary of calling that a Vatican connection.
	I would call that an Open Day connection.
	I think Open Day is a little bit distinct.
	I mean, you know, look, mainstream American Catholicism, I have no issue with that.
	Oh, hey, I'm not here bashing any groups either.
	I mean, this is a secular radio show.
	I'm trying to see how all these groups tie together.
	Wow, well listen, I'm going to try to let you roll when we get back.
	I just wanted to ask some questions that I haven't heard asked of you before.
	It's really great having you here with us.
	The book, ladies and gentlemen, is The Family.
	And it is available all over bookstores.
	It's got a great cover too, but also a great book inside.
	Jeff Charlotte, he'll be our guest on the other side of the screen.
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	Folks, just a program note, in the next couple of weeks and in the next month and a half, we're going to have some huge guests on.
	I'm just going to leave it at that.
	And no, those huge guests are not the big astronauts we've got coming on in the next two weeks.
	And I'm just going to leave it at that.
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	That is coming up later.
	Going back to the author of The Family, Jeff Charlotte, and this is just a bottomless pit of weirdness, but he's a great journalist, writes for Harper's.
	And for the New York Times as well.
	I saw an article in the New York Times, he writes for Harper's and Rolling Stone.
	The reason I was bringing up Harper's is actually Harper's had the interview with Nixon when he was talking about the Bohemian Grove.
	And so that was where my quote from that came.
	Okay, you got the floor.
	This is a short segment, long segment coming up.
	Start at the beginning.
	You get to get inside there.
	You've written articles about how it's not really Christian, though,
	From not wanting to stop abortion and saying we like Machiavelli, I'm going from memory here, but a lot of weird stuff.
	What is it really?
	Some type of strange intelligence front?
	Because just in a snapshot, that's what it looks like to me.
	You know, it goes back, it begins in 1935.
	They organize Abram Brady, believes that he has a vision that God comes to him and speaks to him.
	Tells him that Christianity hasn't been getting it wrong for 2,000 years.
	And he's focused on the poor, the weak, the suffering, the down and out.
	That's not right.
	What God wants him to be is a missionary to and for the powerful.
	The up-and-out, he calls them.
	He begins organizing guys like Henry Ford and a group of congressmen.
	He gets some businessmen together.
	He starts out in the state of Washington.
	They manage to elect a governor, and on that basis, they start going overseas.
	They're involved with the whitewashing of Nazis after World War II, and then they start
	Excuse me?
	Excuse me, something about Nazis?
	Yeah, yeah, I'm afraid so.
	It's always suspicious when someone talks about that stuff, but... No, it's not!
	I mean, you mentioned Henry Ford.
	Henry Ford, exactly.
	They began with this idea.
	You know, not only did God want them to serve the powerful instead of the powerless, but they began with this idea.
	They were looking around the world in the 1930s, and they thought democracy was done.
	They said democracy cannot compete with fascism and communism.
	Well, communism was definitely not for them.
	These are very wealthy businessmen.
	And fascism, fascism looks pretty good, but they didn't like Hitler, they didn't like Mussolini.
	So they said, what we're going to do is totalitarianism for Christ, which is sort of missing the point of the Christian message, but that was their approach.
	And they started recruiting a lot of American fascist sympathizers.
	And over the years, when they go and make alliances with foreign dictators, they look for guys who exemplify that model.
	Doug Coe, the leader of the group,
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	Is it the New Testament?
	And this is their reading.
	It's not about love or mercy or injustice or forgiveness.
	It's about power.
	And those guys understood power.
	So you want to model yourself on power.
	Another sermon you can find actually online on the website of the Navigators, a Christian right group.
	They have an audio sermon of code saying, you know how Jesus said,
	Uh, you gotta put me before your mother, father, brother, sister, because, well, Hitler, Mao, that's what they taught the kids, direct quote.
	Mao even had the kids killing their parents, but it wasn't murder, Steve, because it was for building the new nation, the new kingdom.
	My God, this guy!
	Hold on, I mean...
	This is incredible, and you were there, this is published, it's in your book, and I'm familiar with the fake right-wing Chicago School of Business, all of this, Milton Friedman, you know, the same social... Oh yeah, there's a real overlap with those guys, because those guys are all going on this premise of what Plato called the noble lie, the idea that regular folks can't handle the truth and some of each need to make decisions.
	And that's why they like Machiavelli.
	But see, it's all interconnected.
	I didn't know they were into Straussian.
	I just knew it fit with the Chicago school.
	Man, these people are just monstrous.
	But Obama has got a bunch of the Straussians pulling his strings.
	He's got some family guys in there too.
	General Jim Jones, who's one of his close advisors.
	Oh my God, General James L. Jones?
	The head of the National Security Council?
	The real government?
	Indeed, and I'll tell you one that's a little bit crazier.
	She's not a member of the group.
	She's what they call a friend of the group.
	I mean, they're very careful about those distinctions.
	Uh, she says of Doug Coe, this man I was just quoting, this language I hear right now, she says he's a genuinely loving, spiritual mentor and guide.
	She says she turned to him when she first came to Washington in 1994.
	Who am I talking about but none other than Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.
	Oh my gosh.
	Hold on, let me stop you.
	Let me stop you.
	So it's bipartisan.
	Hold on.
	We got a break.
	This is blowing me away.
	We're gonna do the full hour with you.
	Two long segments coming up.
	That was a short one.
	See, the problem is, I haven't read the book yet.
	I've read a lot of your news articles.
	A lot of what's in there I've confirmed separate places over the years, so I know you're telling the truth.
	Plus, they admit you went there and lived there.
	So, but it's just, all these dots just connected.
	And people kept asking me about CMP, CMP, CMP.
	I didn't really know much about it.
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	Okay, I'm gonna be honest.
	I'm gonna be honest with listeners.
	A lot of times when I have a guest on, I'm focused.
	I've got notes.
	I got a bunch of facts.
	A few days ago, I saw Mr. Charlotte on Rachel Maddow.
	I was back in the break room drinking coffee and eating dinner up here working on a film.
	And I said, I've read his stuff before.
	Yeah, I know about Ashcroft and all those guys in this group, and I've been doing some more research on that.
	I want to get him on.
	But Maddow was making it a left-right thing, and about how these guys are all cheating on their wives, and how they're hypocrites.
	And I was like, I've read his articles and other articles about this group, how it's all Machiavellian, and the end justifies the means, and dictators, and strongmen, and I go, man, that fits into Chicago school, and the neocons, and
	You know, this whole sick philosophy that the globalists just kind of use to get well-meaning men to do evil things.
	The higher-up psychopaths are using it just as a control system, and it's one of many groups.
	But certainly, then as he made the connections to even more powerful organizations, and I guess there is something to this, you know, I don't get too obsessed on this group or that group.
	I've found if it's CFR, Trilateral Commission, Bilderberg, Bohemian Grove,
	Then it's every other group.
	The leadership of these groups are the leadership of all the other groups.
	And so it's kind of an interlocking directorate.
	But I'll be honest, now that I heard him roll with info I'd never heard him say on the shows because they always compartmentalize it.
	It made all these connections because you've got
	Other secretive right-wing groups, like the CMP, and I've had guests on over the years that mention that, and I thought of it more as a right-wing think tank that were globalist, but it also had some anti-globalist in it, like the Hunt brothers, so that confused me, and I don't think anything's the top of the pyramid.
	I think at the top of the pyramid, it's all these groups nexusing in, but then I didn't know there was a
	Opus Dei connection?
	I just threw it out there.
	He said yes and listened to the names.
	And then a Pentagon connection with the head of national security, which really is the real shadow government, James L. Jones, and the Chicago School, and the neocons.
	And so you just blew me away.
	You just got my attention.
	And so I want to get more into the Open State Connection, more of the National Security Connection.
	Take your time on Hillary as a friend.
	Take your time on their missions, their operations, what they're doing worldwide.
	I know you covered all in the book.
	I've read part of it just now.
	And already a bestseller, The Family, Jeff Charlotte.
	But Jeff, go ahead.
	Run through it all, give us the key information here, and bottom line, just from knowing what I know about separate groups that nexus in, this does sound pretty sinister.
	Yeah, I'm glad you're saying this, Alex, and I think you're exactly right.
	We never want to make the mistake of saying there's one group that controls it all.
	There's multiple power bases, and, you know, the point I'm trying to make here is that the family is one of the most influential power bases, and yet it hasn't been measured.
	A sociologist, a conservative sociologist actually, as it happens down there in Texas at Rice University,
	There's a survey of 360 politicians in Washington asking them to name the religious group that is most influential.
	One in three named the family.
	That's more than any other group got.
	That's more votes than James Dobson's focus on the family, more than any other group.
	They named the family, and what's crazy about this is the family denies that they exist.
	If you call up the leader of the group, as I had NBC News do last year when I did a segment with them, and they said, oh no, there's nothing to see here, we don't exist, there's no group, it's just a group of friends, fortunately I've already shared with NBC News their tax records, and there's 600 boxes of documents that show
	I think something that does indeed go beyond left and right.
	This is a group about power.
	Again, I'll just repeat that saying that they have, we work with power where we can, build new power where we can't.
	What that means is, unlike some right-wing groups that are just sort of extensions of the Republican Party, the family wants connections to Democrats as well.
	One is Senator Mark Pryor of Arkansas, a pro-war Democrat from Arkansas.
	So they're apolitical.
	They want power.
	No, no, no.
	They're not apolitical.
	They're not apolitical.
	They want power.
	I wouldn't say that.
	They have some specific ends.
	One is they believe in sort of a free market fundamentalism.
	Well, by apolitical I meant they don't care about labels.
	They don't care about labels.
	They care about power.
	They care about power and their agenda.
	Right.
	And their agenda is two things.
	We're good to go.
	Wow!
	1945 had it documented in their archives.
	I don't think he coined it, but the fact that he used it.
	Hitler used it.
	H.G.
	Wells wrote a book called The New World Order.
	He was an interesting admirer of Hitler.
	Basically they said, what we're aiming for is a form of totalitarianism.
	They said, how about a fascist dictatorship?
	Yeah.
	No, Hitler is one of the earliest.
	You can't find... Right around the same time, Hitler starts using it, then H.G.
	Wells uses it, but they both wanted different forms of socialism.
	Hitler a more fascist form, though they're supposedly on different ends of the spectrum.
	National Socialists, the Nazis.
	And then, Hitler wanted to have somebody kidnap and kill H.G.
	So, like you said, there's competing factions, but to go ahead.
	Wells.
	Well, I mean, you know, that's what the, you know, when I said the bottom line of the American empire, and that's what led them into alliances, you know, we were talking before the break about their role in sort of whitewashing the record of former Nazis.
	One was a guy named Herman J. Abt, who was vice president of the German operation after the war, became known as
	Oh my, so we have a Nazi connection with money coming over?
	Because we know the Bushes with Prescott have that connection.
	Well, there's more than that.
	The head of their Swiss operation after the war was a banker named Alfred Herz.
	He used the family, and its access to American politicians, to come over and lobby for America to lay off all the money that, of course, they had stolen from the Swiss bankers, stolen from the Jews who had been killed, and the so-called Nazi gold.
	You know, we forget that there were actually early attempts to investigate that stuff, and Alfred Herz, working for Congressman Alexander Wiley from Wisconsin and others, was able to lobby successfully using this group's network.
	That's really what this group is.
	Wait a minute!
	This is the group that blocked the investigation of the Rat Line and the Gold and Diamonds?
	I said they were a group.
	You know, I think you made an important point.
	There's no single group controlling all this stuff, but there's lots of different power bases in Washington.
	Yeah, it's like a swarm of viruses or something.
	It's a whole bunch of them, but going in the same direction.
	More power, more control.
	Specifically, let's get more into that history, but can you backtrack?
	Because I read your articles years ago in Harper's and Rolling Stone.
	Because I remember just reading this and then going and googling some of it and finding that, you know, you were telling the truth because it was so shocking about their philosophy and we don't care about abortion.
	We want Jesus wants power.
	We don't care about, you know, this and that.
	We like Machiavelli.
	I mean, this sounds like a psycho cult masquerading as Christians.
	Well, let me give you a quote.
	This is from the news.
	We had a congressman talking about abortion.
	It's not that they don't care about those issues.
	The group tends to be pretty right-wing conservatives, so they care.
	This is not their bottom line.
	Their bottom line is American empire.
	But one time I was at the C Street House, this is the house in Washington, where they're providing below-market housing for congressmen, Republicans and Democrats, by the way, this is a bipartisan thing.
	This is bipartisan power-lust, you might say.
	And I was there, and Doug Coe, the leader of the group, was counseling Congressman Todd Keyhart.
	And Todd Keyhart had come in.
	Todd Keyhart is not what you would call an enlightened man.
	He said he was concerned that the Christian was losing the race with the Muslim.
	You know, he said, what is this guy talking about?
	This is crazy.
	What he meant was, he said that Muslims are having too many babies, while Christians are not having enough.
	So it turns out, PR represents himself as an ardent foe of abortion.
	What he means is abortion for Christians.
	He doesn't care if Muslims have abortions.
	In fact, he would like that.
	Well, now Doug Cowe, listening to this, says, okay, yeah, I hear you talking about this abortion issue.
	You know, I sort of agree with you on that, and that's fine, but I want you to think bigger.
	What I want you to do is to think in terms of a covenant.
	They describe the covenant as something that men of power enter into secretly, privately, because of a publicly invisible but privately identifiable group of companions.
	That's in their official document.
	It's a covenant.
	With a covenant, you can do so much more.
	Good lord!
	But again, when you're saying all of this, I'm thinking about the Straussian economists and philosophers.
	I'm thinking about the Chicago school, the Rockefellers.
	The Rockefellers similarly funded other schools of thought.
	Do you ever run into Rockefeller foundations or Rockefeller money in all this?
	And it founded modern eugenics.
	Yeah, in the early days they were indeed giving the family, which was then known as International Christian Leadership, they changed their name every few years, they say, to avoid scrutiny, basically.
	But he gave some money to them to get started.
	I mean, you really see all the titans of American
	Well, you always have the Rockefellers.
	I mean, discovering cancer viruses, Rockefellers, setting up them.
	I mean, the whole system was set up by these people.
	See, I didn't know that.
	You're the expert.
	Of course, they're involved.
	It's kind of like you lift up a stone and that's where you find the bugs.
	But look, other key points.
	This just gets more insane.
	I'm interrupting.
	Is their power getting greater?
	Is it waning?
	Do you get threats?
	I mean, what is it like?
	I tell you, I mean, this is almost maybe the comic section of the book, you know, because I've first written about this in Harper's, so in Chapter 9 of the book, The Family, I talk about some of the early reactions.
	One was the speaking engagement in Germany.
	Turns out the whole speaking period is paid for by the U.S.
	Get over there.
	Embassy.
	Get off the plane.
	My German host says, you know, there's a problem.
	Your ambassador says,
	That he cannot pay for you because you are an enemy of Jesus.
	This is the ambassador of the United States saying this kind of thing.
	Who is it?
	It's a guy named Senator Dan Coats.
	Not the brightest bulb on the porch.
	He considers Dan Quayle his mentor.
	A guy so off the charts that when Bush proposed him for Secretary of Defense, Cheney vetoed him as too fanatical.
	We're good to go.
	The truth is, they're playing God.
	That's what this whole power trip's about.
	Yeah, you know, it was very well put to me by... I did an interview with someone from the Cato Institute, which is a very conservative think tank in Washington, and they really believe in free markets, and so I thought they weren't going to like the book, but they looked at it and said, these guys aren't talking about free markets.
	There's nothing free about this.
	This is crony capitalism.
	The phrase they used, I thought, was really just dead on, was self-interest by proxy.
	These guys get together in a small group.
	That's what a prayer cell is.
	That's what Senator Enson, who we've been hearing about, Governor Stanford, those guys, Senator Coburn, they get together in a prayer cell.
	They don't actually read the Bible.
	I've been there for these things.
	They don't actually study the Bible.
	One man will say, you know, I have a message from Jesus.
	I think Jesus gave me a message for you.
	And in the case of Senator Enson and Coburn, the message seemed to be, pay your minister some hush money to keep yourself out of the public eye.
	But, you know, the one thing that's really important about that whole scandal that you mentioned talking about on Mano, and so on, and folks on the fact that he was a Republican, the more important thing is that I don't care about this sex scandal.
	Exactly.
	The question is, I don't want you to get in a fight with Mano, but why does the media always make it left and right?
	Oh, no, no, no, no.
	Mano is one of the very few people pushing the story.
	I mean, this story has been around for a while, and I'm not...
	Every now and then someone makes an attempt.
	The Los Angeles Times did a year-long investigation in 2002.
	Published their results.
	Incredible stuff.
	Linking the family to Central American death squads.
	All kinds of stuff.
	Expected, you know, waited for the appeal.
	It was an appeal of surprise.
	The winning reporter did it.
	Not up peep.
	Last year, I did a segment with NBC Nightly News.
	Uh, with Andrew Mitchell hosting and we had Hillary Clinton talking about her involvement.
	We had video of Doug Coe talking about the great leadership example of the fellowship that he tries to promote is like that one enjoyed by Hitler, Himmler, and Goering.
	And, you know,
	NBC thought they had the scoop of the campaign season, not a peep, because our American political press, they're religiously illiterate, they don't know the questions to ask, and, you know... Yeah, but Hitler, I mean, Hitler was a freak.
	I mean, why this obsession with Hitler?
	It's the most extreme... I mean, in some ways it's sort of...
	It is literally idiotic.
	You know, at one point I asked someone that when I was living with her, I said, I find this very troubling.
	Uh, they said, well it's not his end that we're interested in, it's his methods.
	And you're just, you're just blown away by that.
	But even that, they... No, but somebody's behavior is the manifestation of who they are.
	Exactly, exactly.
	Well, and his methods were absolutely horrific.
	But they misunderstand, though.
	They like to talk about it.
	They say, look,
	Here's what Hitler did.
	Hitler got together with a little group of friends, uh, in the back of a Bavarian beer hall, and working together, just like you guys are gonna work together, whether it's a veteran, an infant, or a co-burner, or two younger guys in a group, just like you work together, look what they were able to do.
	They were able to take over the world.
	But that's the same baloney in Spain!
	Well Hitler also, this is mainline history, was hired by German intelligence to set that group up to monitor people and then it got some British funding later from the King of England, Edward VIII, and so Hitler didn't just pop up out of a cabbage patch.
	Well, the important thing to recognize with these guys is that they're all sort of power-hungry political opportunists, and I think that's what you get with a family.
	You know, the thing about it is, look, a lot of the young guys I live with, even some of the congressmen I've spoken to, they get involved with the best of intentions.
	They really, genuinely do.
	I'll even say that of Senator Brownback.
	Yeah, that's like congressmen going to, uh...
	The head of the Washington Times, Mr. Moon, a total cult, and they said, we didn't know that this was going to be a crowning ceremony as him as the Messiah.
	There they are, embarrassed, gulping as crowns are being put on his head.
	How does that individual tie into all this?
	You know, there's a big overlap there, but that's it.
	You know, that's yet again a distinct power base.
	But there is that overlap, and that example that you give, we didn't know.
	I think that's been in the news again.
	I emphasize the bipartisan aspect of this.
	Congressman Bart Stupak of Michigan has been living for seven years.
	There's also a Bohemian Grove connection.
	You know what Nixon said about that?
	Anyway, sir, stay there.
	We're gonna come right back and continue with other key points.
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	But Jeff Charlotte, I've got to have him back up in the near future.
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	The book is The Family.
	We'll put that up on screen.
	But here is Mr. Moon, Sun Yung Moon, the head of the Moonies, having crowns put on, saying he's above Jesus.
	And I don't try to get in fights with all these religious groups and all this.
	It's just that when they try to get political power and have secretive agendas, they have to be discussed.
	And I expose everything here.
	That's all we're trying to do.
	And this is freakish.
	And there's nothing Christian about John Ashcroft and his Patriot Act and the rest of it.
	There's nothing liberal about Barack Obama hiring nothing but K Street Boys now and swearing he never would.
	But I want to come back in this final five-minute segment in a few minutes and take two or three calls.
	But first, in the four or five minutes we have left in this segment, other key points you haven't told us about as you're giving us the dirt on these individuals?
	Well, you know, I think really the biggest point that we want to look at is how the family is acting like a lobby.
	They're not registered as a lobby, but they're paying for travel for congressmen to go overseas.
	Senator Jim Inhofe of Oklahoma went on at least 20 missionary trips to Africa who paid for it.
	In that case, he actually finagled it.
	He says he went on behalf of the family, promoting the political philosophy of Jesus as taught to him by Doug Provo.
	So it's a tax-exempt lobby on top of it?
	In his case, he went even further.
	He actually got the Senate Armed Services Committee to pay for it, $187,000.
	He went to the President of Nigeria.
	The State Department didn't want him to meet with him, went there.
	He got Senator Colburn going to Lebanon.
	This is a country that's had civil war between Christians and Muslims for a long, long time.
	They do not need this kind of interference.
	Senator Coburn went there and he said, you know what, on his official form, paid for by the family by one of their foundations, the International Foundation, he says, I'm going to set up a confidential Christian prayer cell in the Lebanese government, just like the one he used to help cover up the political affairs of Senator Enson.
	So this group is doing this stuff, and when we dig into their own history, we dig into their own archives, we don't have to accuse them or make any wild-eyed claims and so on, we see an absolutely bloody history.
	And how are you getting into their archives?
	They dump 600 boxes of unorganized papers in the Billy Graham Center archives.
	And I went there, I was one of the very first people to start poking around, and we're talking about budgets, memos, formal correspondence, even confidential government documents, a lot of stuff on congressional... Why is it at the Billy Graham Center?
	Is he involved?
	Marginally, but not too much.
	A little bit.
	I think he's got his own thing going.
	But Billy Graham did help them set up this annual ritual, which has become sort of an annual lobbying festival called the National Prayer Breakfast in Washington.
	Everybody attends.
	The President attends.
	Congress attends.
	It's ostensibly ecumenical.
	Everybody is represented.
	Internal documents says anything could happen.
	Even the Koran could be read, and by that they meant they're referring to the Saudi Prince Bandar, who they invited to speak.
	But Jesus is there.
	He's infiltrating the world.
	And by Jesus, of course, you just have to remember, they're not talking about anything you ever learned in Sunday school.
	They're talking about the idea of American empire.
	They're talking about the idea... They're talking about the Hitler Jesus.
	The Jesus of strength and power, rather than the one of love and forgiveness, yes.
	Well, look, obviously intelligence agencies love to use missionaries in groups like this, and as you said, the Rockefellers are deeply involved in that.
	So this is obviously just one more powerful group in all of this, and I would imagine you would say even some of the people involved are doing so, they believe, for good reasons.
	I think that's what it's for, is to co-opt well-meaning Christian men to kind of warp their sense for the end justifies the means to then go carry out really bad stuff.
	But we'll get your take on that in 70 seconds and take a couple phone calls.
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	Well, Mr. Schmidt, it's great to have you.
	Let's just launch into man-made global warming.
	I mean, they were growing grapes thousands of years ago in Britain, but they're not now.
	All the evidence shows it gets hotter and colder, and Mars' ice caps get smaller, and then they get bigger.
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	of mechanism is, has not been determined by observation as yet, but the observations that scientists, who you might call field scientists, the people who actually look at what nature's doing, rather than trying to model it, they, those observations clearly indicate, in my mind, and I think in thousands of other minds, that the ultimate connection is with the sun.
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	Harrison Schmitt, Jack Schmitt, American geologist, former NASA astronaut, university professor and former U.S.
	Senator, and he also, of course, walked on the moon on Apollo 17.
	And don't worry, we're going to talk about that before he leaves us today, but the big crisis at hand is the hoax, the
	The manufactured crisis of global warming.
	And I have Club of Rome documents, all that.
	We'll go over it with him.
	Where they admit this is just their pretext to turn us into the Soviet Union and micromanage the entire carbon cycle.
	But I guess a lot of people out there aren't biologists or aren't geologists and don't understand this, but he's here with us today to go over the science of that because he's bravely, because you get branded a heretic, come out against this hoax.
	And so, Dr. Smith, again, let's continue going into why you decided to go public and start talking about this whole carbon tax and the science behind supposed man-made global warming.
	Well, the primary reason that I and thousands of other observers of nature, if you will, I'm a field geologist, have become more active is our
	It's twofold.
	One is that we are concerned about the misuse of science, and particularly the misuse of modeling of a very complex system called climate that is so complex that it really can't be done.
	In fact, there are many people who are experts in modeling, astrophysicists and others, that have said the same thing.
	Freeman Dyson, for example.
	I don't think so.
	I think so.
	Based predictions of the future on these extremely complex models that are filled with assumptions.
	So that, number one, we've been concerned about the misuse of science.
	But I think more fundamentally, this misuse of science has led to politicians and ideologues to try to gain control of the American economy.
	And indeed, the global economy, by scaring people.
	Now, the science is quite clear that there has been, since 1660, about a half a degree warming every hundred years.
	That is a natural cycle that represents the Earth coming out of what was called the Little Ice Age, an extremely cold period for the Earth.
	Uh, back in the, uh, beginning about, uh, 1400.
	Uh, that, uh, if you want to read some of the history of the American Revolutionary War, uh, you will realize, like the book Sam Adams by McCullough, you'll realize how damn cold it was back then.
	And that was partly, we were just moving out of the Little Ice Age, very slowly, and it was still very cold.
	And so the natural warming is clearly happening, but there is absolutely no evidence, no observational evidence whatsoever, that the increase in carbon dioxide that has been measured in the last 50 years has had anything to do with that.
	Primarily because the warming started before the Industrial Revolution ever began.
	Now, where is that carbon dioxide coming from?
	Well, it's probably coming mostly out of the oceans, because the oceans are getting warmer.
	There's a lag in that process of the oceans giving up carbon dioxide as they warm, but nevertheless, and it can be a lag of a few centuries, but nevertheless, that's probably where most of that rise in CO2 is coming from.
	Well, we're talking to Harrison Smith, Dr. Harrison Smith, Jack Schmidt, one of the Apollo astronauts, walked to the moon, took the most famous photo, one of the most famous photos ever of the moon and the little blue marble out there.
	We're going to talk about that later.
	You know, you're a doctor in this.
	I'm just one who studies it and interviews scientists and people.
	But Al Gore got caught, according to all the ice core samples and people that I've interviewed and seen on television.
	He put the two, the carbon dioxide going up with the warming, when really the carbon dioxide comes after the warming, as you just said.
	That's from all the governments, all the universities, all the ocean studies, ice cores, correct?
	So that's more cooking the books, and then they've also caught
	Some of the top global warming supporters accidentally, and I put that in quotes, having false data from their weather stations and buoys jacking up numbers.
	I just don't see how they say it's an open and shut case when the majority of scientists polled out there say that it's completely natural and that man-made global warming is a fraud.
	Well, it is being used fraudulently, there's no question about it.
	And it's being used for political purposes, and hopefully the American people have started to realize that.
	Certainly there are surveys that indicate that the common sense of the American people on climate change is starting to take hold, as it apparently is on health care.
	Uh, revisions and, uh, the stimulus, so-called stimulus package, where there is a concerted effort in the new administration and, uh, the Congress that's supporting them.
	And the, uh, what one might call the state-run media to support them to, uh, move this country in, uh, directions, uh, that increase government control of just about every major facet of our lives.
	Absolutely.
	You know, they wouldn't let anybody see 300 pages of the 1300 page bill till right when they voted on it.
	Now we have it.
	Home inspections, federal power to kick you out of your house if they want, take over all the land.
	It allows 30 plus federal agencies to just levy taxes and fines outside Congress's power.
	It's kind of a letter of mark just being given to any agency or group to go out and piratically shake down the public.
	Well, it's not encouraging.
	Liberty is definitely threatened in this current political environment, and all of us who believe in liberty are going to have to begin to take steps to counter it.
	And it's encouraging to see the governors and the legislatures of a few states starting to push back in terms of gaining a
	Uh, a founder's interpretation of the 10th Amendment, namely that amendment that leaves everything not enumerated in the Constitution, uh, to the authority of the private sector or the state.
	Uh, and so, uh, that, that is, I think, a very, very encouraging trend and I certainly hope that they'll continue in that direction to at least try to put the brakes on, uh, the legal brakes, the constitutional brakes on what's happening
	Well, I think you're right.
	I mean, the polls show you're right.
	That people are finally, you know, they've gone from 60-plus percent a few years ago believing man-made global warming was this big threat and we were all dead and carbon dioxide was deadly poison and would kill you in seconds, to now realizing that it is a fraud and a hoax and just a new tax.
	Now they've only got about 40% support and that's imploding quickly.
	But it seems like the federal government, and as you said, the state-controlled media, the big corporate media,
	They want this new tax, they want this control, and they don't care.
	It looks like they're going to just ram it through, maybe.
	Well, we'll see.
	There's a lot of resistance that's pushed back now, and the August recess should help us as the common sense of the American people is put forward to their representatives.
	And we'll just see how we come out of this particular period.
	You mentioned the corporate media.
	I would not
	I don't necessarily blame it on it being corporate media, it's just media that's in the tank for this socialistic change in our political system.
	And it's because just about everybody in the media now, reporters, analysts and otherwise, have come out of an elementary, secondary and college education.
	That has been dominated by people who have less respect for liberty than you and I. Well, yes, sir.
	Again, we're talking to astronaut, Apollo astronaut, Dr. Schmidt.
	My point was Rex Tillerson at ExxonMobil said, look, we've looked at this.
	This is just a tax on oil.
	This is a fraud, and then David Rockefeller, the majority owner, at a board meeting, this was in the news, said, you're gonna come out and say it's real, and so even Rex Tillerson came out and said, okay, it's real.
	So, when you see the NFL and every other big organization pushing it, when the American Football League is, the National Football League is pushing it, we know the establishments behind it.
	Are you saying that that's just the incredible peer pressure and hype?
	uh... or is that some scientists are saying this is the new global religion this is the new organizing force well it has certain characteristics of a religion uh... in that uh... there's a great amount of faith that uh... uh... the climate modelers have the right answer but uh... it is also i think related to a much longer
	It's an ideological battle.
	It's been going on far before climate change came along.
	It's an ideological battle of those that believe that you should maximize human liberty under
	Well, I agree with you, Dr. Schmidt.
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	We'll come back and get into some other issues as well, like health care with you.
	Then, of course, get into the moon itself and what it's like to be an astronaut who's been off the planet.
	I guess you're amongst people who've been the farthest away from the earth of anybody else in the world.
	I know your mission was supposedly there the longest, right?
	If I'm, uh, not quoting that wrong.
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	Ladies and gentlemen, I was having an amazing conversation just now with Dr. Schmidt, Apollo astronaut.
	We're going to get into all the space stuff in the next segment.
	And I brought up to him Ecoscience, Population, Resources, and Environment by John P. Holdren, the White House
	Science czar, the guy that wants global warming taxes and to terraform the earth with particulate to save us.
	I mean, this is wild stuff.
	I mean, here's the Wall Street Journal saying they want to chemtrail us.
	I mean, it's just, it's crazy.
	Sir, we were talking during the break, what do you liken this to?
	This saying, drug the water supply, sterilize the men and women.
	He says in this book, take all the children at birth,
	Well, I think that there are individuals, apparently among them, who
	And a very large number who have taken the environment, shall we say, captured the environmental movement and turned it into what previously was considered a communist movement.
	And that's just something that people of common sense are going to have to continue to counter and wake up enough so that they take control of their government again.
	It certainly is extremely important that the United States maintain itself as the beacon of liberty on this planet.
	There are all sorts of issues, space is included in that, where if we are not taking a leadership role in preserving liberty, then it will disappear.
	Because other nations have so far tolerated
	Well, Dr., you're obviously very well led.
	Absolutely, Bob.
	I mean, Doctor, you're obviously very well-read on just the current news.
	I'm sure you've seen the announcements where they're saying, oh, we're going to have a new Bank of the World, you're going to pay your carbon taxes, a new world order.
	Al Gore called for a world government two weeks ago to, quote, administer the environmental movement.
	I mean, clearly, that's what Holdren says.
	He says a planetary government to micromanage and reduce our numbers by at least 80 percent
	What is your view on that?
	And when you were in government as a U.S.
	Senator, did you ever hear any talk like this?
	Or is this starting to gain steam now?
	I think it has been gaining steam.
	You saw a little of it in my time in the Senate back in the late 70s and early 80s.
	Partisanship was beginning to really raise its ugly head more extensively than ever, at least in modern times.
	But it has clearly taken off in recent decades, I think primarily because of the capture of the government school system by the opponents of liberty.
	And that is, I think, the fundamental reason why we are today.
	Does that mean that common sense has totally disappeared from the American people due to the education and the elementary and secondary school system?
	I don't think so, because you still see, particularly in current surveys, a great deal of common sense reappearing.
	But on the other hand, that has to be sufficient to take back control of the government.
	We let ourselves be lulled
	A sweep in the last election cycle, the last two election cycles, until all of a sudden we have a president and a majority in both houses of Congress that think identically about these matters and are willing to try to force down our throats a further erosion of American liberty.
	I noticed, Dr. Schmidt, that even with the
	Decimation of our government-run school system.
	I think the American people are showing human common sense and saying, hey, this isn't going to work.
	It never has, and it won't work in the future, and let's fix it.
	So we'll just have to continue to see if that common sense will prevail.
	Well, how obvious is it that all these other countries don't have to make carbon cuts?
	I mean, even if you believe in global warming and carbon dioxide is deadly, which is ridiculous, you know, trying to list it as a toxic waste.
	If we make the cuts, the businesses will just move to China and India and Mexico, and it'll boost carbon.
	I mean, it's just ridiculous any way you slice it.
	I want to get your take on that, Dr. Schmidt, Apollo astronaut on the other side, and we'll get into space technology.
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	We're talking to Harrison Hagen-Schmidt, or Jack Smith.
	He's an American geologist, former NASA astronaut, university professor, and former U.S.
	Senator.
	He is the last of the Apollo astronauts to arrive and set foot on the Moon.
	And he is also the first, and so far only, person to have walked on the Moon, who has never been a member of the United States Armed Forces.
	Neil Armstrong left military service and then just goes through some of that trivia.
	And he's got a book, Return to the Moon, that's up on screen in the Human Settlement of Space.
	Return to the Moon is the name of the book.
	You can find it in Amazon and bookstores everywhere.
	In fact, I've even seen it in the bookstore.
	I've even seen it in my dad's house.
	But the point is, great book, be sure and get that.
	Just modify one thing you said.
	I was the only
	Non-military trained pilot to go to the moon, but I did receive outstanding training from the United States Air Force in jet aircraft and the United States Navy in helicopters.
	So I feel like I sort of had the best of all worlds.
	Well, there you go.
	I keep telling my guys, don't print me Wikipedia stuff, because Wikipedia's got my name spelled wrong and half of it's not true about me.
	I hope your audience recognizes that Wikipedia has their biases as well.
	Trying to get anything in there to moderate their position on climate change is impossible.
	A number of people have tried to do it, and it just doesn't happen.
	I was just joking too, it's actually not from Wikipedia, the guys are about to box me in the nose in there.
	Yeah, Wikipedia won't let you publish, I've talked to scientists who've tried, any material basically trying to debunk man-made global warming in just one case I found, and it's just despicable because they're the first thing that comes up with almost any scientific inquiry.
	Have you noticed that, Doctor?
	Yeah, well, Google's in that game as well, you know.
	The head of Google has a very close relationship with the President.
	I have seen that.
	Now, I want to get a little bit more into the environmental movement and then into the moon and the time we have left with you and also health care, but dealing with Holdren's book and all these other books written by people that just cram the universities and academia and social planning
	Uh, this, this, this talk about the world being overpopulated when the West is actually, as you know, has a huge decline in its actual indigenous numbers.
	And dealing with this whole eugenics movement, this whole idea of the super race, I can't think of anybody out there who would be the archetypal superman if it isn't the astronauts.
	I mean, did they ever talk to you guys about this type of stuff?
	Or when you were in the U.S.
	Senate, you said it seems to be building more steam now.
	Holdren and these guys are talking about
	Well, I'm concerned about any movement that might have legs to it, but I really think it is more visible now because the people who think this way have gained power.
	It does not mean that they are going to be supported by the vast majority of the American people.
	I just think you have to continue, as the founders did, to put your faith in the people and their common sense.
	Now, thanks to talk radio, they are getting some education that they would not have gotten otherwise.
	And it's up to you guys to expand your market.
	And to make sure that the American people overall begin to understand why their common sense is what they should rely on and not on what they're told by the national media, the state-run media, so to speak.
	Now, I think the whole trend really began with the fall of the Soviet Union, because the great champion of
	Yeah, and really what these are
	is parasites.
	I mean, they want to organize our lives, they want to run our lives.
	I'll never forget, back in the mid-90s, they were stealing farmers' and ranchers' land in and around Austin in the name of environmentalism.
	They later built on it and sold it to themselves.
	They were just bank robbers, criminals.
	And I remember being in a meeting with these city council advisors, and I said, this isn't freedom.
	And they said, everything's a planned economy.
	You know, somebody's got to do it.
	I mean, they really think it's their job to run our lives.
	How do we beat the forces of tyranny?
	Well, you have to do it by education, and by reminding the American people that their basic common sense instincts are correct.
	Their own private property is important, their incomes are important, and they should not transfer that to the government.
	Their first chance to express themselves politically is coming up in the next congressional election.
	You all and
	All of us have to try to mobilize the most massive turnout of people who reject this current approach and begin to turn it around and get back to what would be the basic fundamental principles of constitutional government that we were founded upon.
	Well, I noticed you mentioned the last few administrations being a problem, and so I'm glad you're recognizing, obviously, that both parties are run by these special interests.
	Why would big, wealthy interests want to collectivize things?
	Is that because it creates monopolies, allows them to shut down their competition?
	I mean, it's not just a bunch of hippies and communists running around that are doing this.
	They've got a lot of powerful friends.
	Well, there's no question there's a lot of
	Of money influence in this process.
	And I don't know what's motivating people who have basically been dependent on a free enterprise system to get where they are today.
	Now clearly, small business, medium sized business, the kind of business that I'm involved in in various ways, they do not operate that way.
	But there are, particularly in the media,
	An entertainment world, major corporations who have bought into and believe that their future is going to be tied to, their economic future, tied to this approach to attacking liberty and to building a more socialistic approach to providing for the needs of the American people.
	That is a very dangerous trend, there's no question about it.
	It's made it even worse by the way we've allowed the Congress not only to become permanent fixtures, very few Congressmen and Senators, if they run for re-election, ever get defeated.
	And that's in large part because the federal election laws have been
	Well, Dr. Schmidt, Apollo astronaut, Apollo 18 astronaut, I
	I'm sure you've probably seen the Cyberbullying Act, and even got local newscasts pushing it now, the press is that bad.
	The Hate Crimes Act, it now says if your speech causes someone to do something violent, even if you're not calling for violence, they're going to come arrest you.
	And now the FBI is fluttering around saying if somebody makes a comment on a message board that's yours, we may come after you for what they said.
	I mean, this is really happening to people I know.
	Well, that's why we've got to make a change of direction in the United States government, a drastic change.
	And as I say, the next election is the key turning point.
	The next two elections are particularly key.
	If the powers that are currently in Washington maintain their control through this next election, the next two elections, then I'm not sure how you turn it around.
	Okay, in the 16 minutes or so we have left of you, I want to shift gears now and get into the moon.
	Return to the Moon, it has that really great other headline here about colonizing.
	In fact, guys, put that up on screen for the TV viewers.
	I don't think you used that word.
	I think I used settling.
	Sure, that's why I wanted to put it up on the screen so I could actually... There it is.
	The Human Settlement of Space, Return to the Moon.
	Tell us what that headline means for the book.
	Well, the...
	The Moon is the nearest place in space where human beings can homestead.
	The resources are there to once settlements are established, the resources are there not only to support those settlements with the water and oxygen and food and other things that you need, independently of the Earth, but
	There is one resource that's there that allows for an economy that can, through the export of that resource, to the Earth.
	And that's a light isotope of helium called Helium-3, which is a nearly ideal fuel for fusion power generation.
	And so that's what the book is all about.
	It tries to put together, in a very, very broad way,
	Amazing.
	Now, just because your bio is so lengthy, in a nutshell, tell us about your career as a AAA astronaut, you know, lunar astronaut.
	Tell us about that.
	Tell us about the missions.
	Just in a nutshell, then I've got some questions.
	Well, my career started as a geologist, the son of a geologist, actually, in southern New Mexico.
	Caltech trained, and then a Harvard PhD.
	I did a lot of field work in Norway and Alaska.
	And when NASA and the National Academy of Sciences asked for volunteers for the first selection of scientist astronauts, I thought about 10 seconds and raised my hand.
	And figuring that if I didn't, I'd probably regret it.
	And I would have, obviously.
	But while at Harvard, I became increasingly concerned about the direction that Harvard-trained so-called public servants were taking us, and figured that if I was that concerned, that sometime in my life I'd better think about getting into politics.
	That opportunity came after my astronaut career,
	I had essentially been completed.
	I was elected to the United States Senate.
	Spent six years there learning a great deal about how sausage is made.
	More than most people would like to know, I think.
	And then in the middle of the depression of the recession of 1982, I lost my seat.
	Here in New Mexico and went into an accelerated learning experience in the private sector and free enterprise and business related activities.
	Well that's awesome and again the book is Return to the Moon available everywhere.
	Harrison Smith is our guest.
	How many moon missions were you involved in in total?
	Well I was involved in essentially all the moon missions but I only flew on Apollo 17.
	The last of the Apollo series.
	My involvement in other missions was multi-faceted.
	I was primarily responsible for setting up the lunar science and geological science training program for the pilot astronauts.
	I was responsible for overseeing for the astronaut office the development of various scientific experiments.
	And you also, as you said, discovered a lot of the most important rocks.
	Which mission put that laser up that the University of Texas contacts?
	It was actually deployed on the moon three different times.
	The first one by Apollo 11, as a matter of fact, 40 years ago, was a reflector and the various
	Uh, observatories now shoot that, those reflectors, the three of them, that were finally deployed, with laser beams, and have been able to, uh, very, very precisely determine... Distance.
	...from the Earth to the Moon, as well as the motions of the comets.
	All right, we're running down on time and you've agreed to come back on in the future on science issues.
	It's just amazing having you, but I will be broiled and skewered and drawn and quartered and hung and then tanned if I don't bring this up because we talk about hoaxes.
	We have this giant government hoax of global warming right now, clearly trying to get control.
	Before I ask this, I want to say I have a friend, Raymond Teague, who worked on the main mission control on repeated Apollos, ran RCA cameras, and then RCA cameras on Skylab.
	And I've known Raymond for 14 years, and he says the whole thing's real, none of it's faked.
	You know, the whole nine yards, and I know he's the real deal.
	I have other people I know being here in Texas who worked on the mission, and they say, if there was any chicanery, then they were conning us too, and that's pretty darn hard to do.
	Forty years later, and I never really cover this issue, but I get calls every day, emails about it, TV shows everywhere.
	What is your take on the people more and more believing, I've seen polls as high as 30%, that aspects of the whole thing was faked?
	Well, I think in a serious vein that it is another reflection on the government-run school system.
	That system does not teach history.
	There are several generations now who have come through it that have had very little exposure to American history or world history in an objective way.
	And right now you have a population that has not learned the complexities that had to be
	We're good to go.
	But in a way that, I mean, that's a positive thing to not be totally trusting.
	The founders said that.
	I think a lot of it's so much government lying.
	People are so untrusting now, they don't even trust me on a lot of issues.
	I mean, people don't trust their neighbors.
	And society does seem to be degenerating a bit.
	My only issue is, that said, that I know people that worked on the mission who say it was absolutely real.
	And you can watch famous films of them in mission control.
	People I know, they're not making it up.
	Uh, for a conspiracy like that to work, uh, you would have to, uh, have, uh, conned, uh, 450,000 Americans.
	And that's how many worked on the program?
	That's how many worked, and I, you just couldn't do it.
	Look, you, people have to remember that there's still, uh, when you have a population of the world as large as we have, uh, a very, very micro percentage is still a significant number, and some of those people actually still believe the Earth is black.
	So if a few of them want to believe that we didn't go to the moon, let them.
	It's not an issue that comes up in my presentations.
	Some flat earthers saying I'm covering up the fact that it's it's some Atlantean conspiracy but but the reason I mean obviously you know this is this has been building I would imagine you get asked that sometimes because there are issues that make people question and so let me just throw a few of those out to you.
	Wait a minute.
	I think there are more important things to talk about but just let me say that when I'm out talking to the public I do not get that question.
	I only get that question from talk show hosts.
	And so I think we ought to spend our time on more important issues.
	Okay, why haven't we been back to the moon in 40 years?
	Well, that's a really long topic, but the most immediate is that even though George W. Bush articulated a very good return to the moon and on beyond policy, neither his budget office or the Congress
	We have not properly funded that.
	Had it been properly funded, we would be well on our way as we speak.
	But in the absence of adequate funding, we have had to flip schedules in order to keep the program alive.
	Now you have an administration that, for all indications, is not going to pursue an aggressive role for the United States in deep space, and they're going to leave that to the Chinese
	Uh, potentially the Indians and the Japanese and maybe Europe.
	Uh, and that I think is an extraordinary mistake.
	It's as big a mistake in the long term as we could make, uh, relative to protecting liberty here on this planet.
	Sure.
	If you have non-democratic regimes, uh, dominant in deep space, dominant on the moon and elsewhere, then it's going to be very, very difficult to continue to protect liberty on this, uh,
	Sure.
	Have you heard of, I guess you were in the Senate around that time, Dr. Bob Bowman, who worked on some of the Star Wars program before it was declassified in the early 80s?
	And he's saying, and he's told me, he said, look Alex, not only is there a space program, but there's a lot of it you don't know about and I can't tell you about it, but he's mentioned a few things that have slipped out or been declassified, you know, the whole robotic program.
	And they admit that a lot of the shuttles have been military secret missions.
	Not a lot.
	There have been a few Air Force missions, or missions of the space shuttle in which there were some classified payloads, but you shouldn't have a lot.
	All the shuttle flights, with very few exceptions, have been purely civilian flights.
	Sure.
	You did a lot of the photography on the moon, didn't you?
	Oh yeah, well both Gene Cernan and I had cameras, and we took a lot of the pictures.
	I happen to be more active in taking pictures of the Earth as we went towards the moon, so that full Earth... But you took the famous blue marble photo, didn't you?
	The full Earth that shows the continent of Africa in its entirety, yeah, that's one I took.
	I was about 34,000 miles away from Earth when I snapped that.
	Now, again, because people kill me if I don't ask, where are the stars?
	Is it because the Earth's so bright that it blots those out?
	Yes, it's the same problem you have on a sunny day here on Earth that's seen stars.
	There's just too much light for a wonderful optical system we call our eyes to handle.
	The eyes are great, but they do not have what scientists call a dynamic range to see both the bright surfaces and stars.
	Well, that's like when the moon is up at night, you can't see stars anywhere around it, right?
	That's correct.
	Same thing.
	Well, I know we've got advanced technologies and I know the A-bomb and the hydrogen bomb and the superconducting super colliders are real and I know that there are some
	The American people are never scared to ask anybody a question.
	No, no, no.
	Never.
	Believe me.
	Well, I mean, certainly you know it's a big, I mean, it's becoming a bigger controversy and that's why I brought it up.
	I understand.
	You have to deal with it.
	Fortunately, I don't.
	Well, I mean, I know you're right about the global warming being a hoax, and I mean, there's government and corporations engaged in a hoax, so I think that's, I mean, how do we fix this crisis of confidence?
	Because it's even happening not just with the government, as you know, it's happening with people in business now.
	How do we fix that?
	Well, I think you fix it by, again, people of common sense taking back control of their government and making them right.
	And getting good people to run for office.
	I personally would like to see term limits, but you're never going to get the Congress to do it.
	That's something the states are going to have to do if we're ever going to have a constitutional amendment.
	The founders just didn't realize
	That their successors would make a career out of going into politics.
	It was not on their visible horizon.
	Sure, we only have about two and a half minutes left.
	Dr. Schmidt, one word to describe what it's like to be 400,000 miles away, or less, from the Earth.
	One word to describe standing on another planet.
	Privilege.
	I was greatly honored and privileged to have an opportunity to do it, as were all of my colleagues.
	We were just the tip of the spear.
	450,000 Americans held that spear, and we just represented them on the moon, but they made it happen.
	And that is my last question on the issue, and then I won't ever bring it up to you again, I promise, if you join us again.
	How did the film make it back through the Van Allen radiation belt?
	Well, that belt doesn't have that much radiation.
	If it was going to damage the film, it would have damaged us.
	There is radiation there, and if you lingered in it over time, you could accumulate a dose that could be a problem, but we went through it so fast that there wasn't any significant dose on the film or on
	Well, you know what's neat?
	We're starting to see space tourism.
	If they'd really give us a space program, some of us could live long enough to actually go to the moon.
	But pretty soon they'll say the moon doesn't exist, and maybe it's made out of cheese.
	Let me tell you, Mr. Schmidt, Dr. Schmidt, Return to the Moon is the book.
	He's out there exposing global warming as the fraud it is, man-made global warming.
	Is there any websites to fire out, sir, or any other info?
	No, I think if people look at the book, Return to the Moon,
	Yeah, I'd like to have you back up in the next few months to just talk about the book itself and more about the moon.
	And thank you for entertaining those questions.
	Let me say bye to you here at the end.
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	Ronnie in Texas, you're on the air.
	Go ahead, Ronnie.
	Thank you, sir.
	I'd like to thank Gerald Salente for his ideas before you get there.
	And I want to thank you for everything.
	Of course, you're getting to speak with your guest, Wayne Paul, was a special treat for me, but I forgot.
	I forgot to mention that
	The most important person of that Paul family I spoke to was his granddaughter, who approached me on the UT campus.
	I was carrying one of his signs, as usual, and she, again, thanked me for campaigning for him, and she told me that she was, of course, delivered by him, and then said, and I'm his granddaughter.
	So I've actually, and I don't know, like you, I think that maybe she told Dr. Paul about it, and like you, maybe I helped.
	Him to decide to run again.
	That's just maybe a delusion on my part.
	You also know Ron Paul's for real.
	That's why COINTELPRO attack him and ask where's the campaign money and this and that when it's all under the Federal Election Commission public.
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	And so the people are wise to that, and we're going to bring down the globalists.
	Well, you're right, sir.
	Can I just say a quote from Dr. Paul, his most recent American Free Press last paragraph?
	He said, "...public outcry against the bank bailouts and the government power grab known as cap-and-trade brews.
	The spirit of liberty still lives, and part of a celebration of independence day should include a renewed determination to keep fighting a good fight for freedom."
	As long as the government continually seeks to take liberties away, patriots need to keep fighting.
	I hear you and I appreciate your call, Ronnie.
	I gotta jump there.
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	It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
	Well, he is a frequent contributor on ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, Fox, BBC, Russian television, you name it.
	And he's been making a lot of amazing predictions over the last 20-plus years as a trends forecaster.
	Before that, of course, he's also a best-selling author.
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	He's also one of the main contributors in the film, The Obama Deception.
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	And it's all chronicled in the Obama deception.
	Going now to Gerald Solente for the next 51 minutes.
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	Gerald Solente, you've got the floor, the mainstream media more than ever is taking notice to all the shocking predictions you've made the last three years that are unfortunately
	Coming true.
	Where is the economy?
	You say revolution's coming.
	The elite are stealing everything, even nailed down.
	Gerald Cilente, chief of the Trends Research Institute, tell us what's happening.
	Well, we only stick by the facts, as you well know, and we're political atheists.
	We don't believe in this two-headed, one-party system.
	We don't bow to politicians or genuflect at political altars.
	We only look at the facts.
	We just heard Vice President Biden last week, a week and a half ago, say that no one, the truth is,
	We and everyone else misread the economy.
	That's his quote.
	Well, the truth is, either he's ignorant and all of those PhDs and credentialed people in the White House are ignorant, or else they're so arrogant that they can only see outside the beltway, or they can't see outside the beltway and think that they're the only people that know anything, or else they're lying to us.
	Those are the only three options.
	Because the truth is, as you well know, we saw it, and so did some others.
	And so all we're doing is we're looking at the facts, Alex.
	And the facts are that the Obama administration said that $787 billion bailout scheme was going to create 600,000 new jobs by this time.
	And they said that without the stimulus package, we would see unemployment hit 8%.
	In 2009, and peak at 9% in 2010.
	That's what they said.
	Now we have unemployment already, official unemployment, at 9.5%.
	So they're way off on that.
	How could they have any credibility?
	We've lost 2.5 million jobs since Obama has become president.
	And at very best, if you're going to be generous,
	They spent 20% of the stimulus package and created, at best, 150,000 new jobs.
	So when you extrapolate this forward, the best they can do is come up with about 700-750,000 new jobs over two and a half years, whereby they said they were going to create between 3.5 and 4 million jobs.
	And to wit, we've already lost $7.2 million since this recession, quote, officially began.
	Gerald, I was looking at a USA Today Finance Gallup poll.
	And it showed how Obama got elected at an 83-84, depending on which one of the graphs.
	They've had several of these Gallup polls.
	And now he's dropped to the low 50s, but in some demographics below 50.
	That is a faster, steeper, further decline than the previous grand champion loser, the peanut farmer from Georgia.
	I don't
	Fastest to fall, but luckily a magic crisis popped up.
	Nine months in to kind of boost Bush for a while, but minus a stage crisis or provocation or war, Obama is a political dead duck and his entire agenda to seize America is failing.
	But does he have an ace up his sleeve?
	Is it the crisis is going to be so bad we all can only swim to the life raft of the federal government, even if it's a desert island, you know, covered with government zombies?
	Or is it a new war?
	Is it a staged terror attack?
	I mean, if he's in total freefall, the worst in the last hundred years of polling with presidents, what does this mean?
	I think you're one of the most astute people out there talking about this in the way that you're talking about it.
	Because we saw the exact same things as well, in that when you look at the free fall that he's had in the polls, and you compare it as to Carter, and then Bush was one percentage point higher, summer came, Bush was down in the dumps, people were making fun of him for taking a month-long vacation to Crawford, Texas, as the economy was
	We were just getting, we were just being hit by the dot-com bubble burst, and all of a sudden there was 9-11.
	So, if these people come up with schemes undreamed of, or things can just happen, one of the things that we're watching very closely is that the Obama administration is held back in releasing budget projections that were supposed to come out within a week.
	And now they're going to come out with them after, after
	Congress takes its recess in August.
	That's a big signal to us.
	So we're looking at that very, very closely.
	Because there may be the shock of our lifetime in those numbers.
	No one's talking anymore about the green shoots.
	Remember that load of malarkey that they were spreading around?
	That money manure that was supposed to be pushing up the economy?
	So that's the kind of thing that we're looking for.
	Anything could happen.
	They come up with schemes undreamed of.
	But the reality is, in the final sense, is that, as we've been saying, the world is going to call it the greatest depression.
	In America, it's going to be called Obamageddon.
	The schemes that they've come up with, these bailouts, buyouts, rescue packages, us owning corrupt companies like Citigroup and General Motors, I love it, General Motors, they bring back this guy lots.
	Who is the Vice Chairman at General Motors?
	This is a genius, Alex, that came out in 2005, 2006, that said that anyone that thinks that high gasoline prices are gonna hurt the sales of SUVs doesn't know what they're talking about.
	This is a champion they brought back now.
	Look what's going on with the Goldman Sachs gang.
	I've said this, and I'll say it again, and I've said it before, and I'll repeat it over and over again.
	I'm of Italian descent.
	I've heard enough Mafia stories for the rest of my life.
	If the names on Wall Street were Sellenti, Caruso, Mondavi, Rossini, Puccini, Abatelli, Puccio, they'd call it the Mafia.
	Oh, it would be major news every day, how the mafia is ripping off the country.
	You know, we just gave these guys, what, how many billions of dollars?
	And now they're giving it back to themselves in bonuses.
	Oh, it would be big story.
	But you can't call the White Shoe Boys criminals.
	You could call them, you know, these Ponzi schemes they talk about, with credit swap, fault derivatives, and collateral, CPOs and SIVs.
	How about calling them, rather than exotic financial instruments, how about calling them Pond Games and Ponzi schemes?
	And grand larceny!
	Grand larceny!
	Well, I mean, Gerald Solente, there you are.
	I'm sure you've seen all these clips.
	Paulson last week, the congressmen were asking him, where's the $200 million you got personally?
	Is that not a conflict of interest?
	And how all the regulators were former Goldman Sachs.
	And he just said, no, it's no conflict of interest.
	We were talking before you came on live about the shockingness of actually watching 23.7 trillion stolen in 10 months greater than the GDP times 2.
	I mean, I feel like I'm in a dream here, Gerald.
	Well, you know, we're writing now, we're writing the Autumn Trends Journal, and this is the way we began it.
	And we're writing back from the year 2012, we're looking to 2009.
	The greatest crime wave ever to hit America was sweeping across the nation.
	More lawless than the Wild West, better organized than gangland Chicago, a ruthless mob of financial bandits and political wise guys had taken control of the United States of America.
	Not a week went by without Wall Street and Washington committing world-class crimes, but all carried out under the cover of law.
	If perpetrated by individuals, it would have been called robbery, extortion, embezzlement, and fraud, and the perpetrators would have been indicted, hauled into court, and brought to justice.
	And it seems to be a bottomless pit.
	Unbelievable.
	I mean, they're seizing the entire economy, manufacturing, the carbon tax.
	Where does it end?
	Well, here's the way we're looking at it.
	As you know, we keep repeating, and it's worth repeating because it doesn't seem to hit a lot of people in the head the right way, is that you can't print phantom money out of thin air back by nothing, producing practically nothing.
	We're now looking at the dollar taking another hit against the basket of currencies.
	Gold prices are back on the rise.
	We heard from China, Russia, India, Brazil.
	They all want to bail out of the bucks.
	So where is it going?
	The decline of Empire America.
	Gerald Cilente, Trends Research.
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	When you say this is the greatest heist in history, I don't think people understand.
	You really mean that.
	$23.7 trillion and they're grabbing every sector of the economy and the green tax, the carbon tax allows the bureaucracy.
	I have the bill that they passed in secret, now public.
	As you know, I want your take on that.
	Allows federal agencies to raise taxes on toilet paper, beef, everything.
	I mean, this is government becoming God.
	You call that fascism, don't you?
	Go ahead.
	Well, the merger of state and corporate powers according to Mussolini...
	It's called fascism.
	So if it quacks like a duck and walks like a duck, let's call it a spade a spade.
	It's fascism.
	And to pick up on the second part of what you were saying, and I was saying, was at first they went through this whole scheme of the money printing.
	Well, that's going to run out, as we're seeing now, with the diving of the dollar and other currencies looking for other countries looking for new reserve currency.
	So the next scheme is
	I don't
	Rob the country blind, you can get an award for it, or they'll make you a treasury secretary.
	So the scheme, Alex, is after the printing game runs out, it's the tax-to-death game.
	The whole notion of too big to fail.
	Who came up with that one?
	I can say with full authority that their mother's not better than mine.
	What would happen if they failed?
	No one's ever told us.
	But yet we hear from Henry the Don Paulson at the last House oversight meeting saying, quote, our response
	Our responses were not perfect, but I am confident that they were substantially correct, and that they saved this country from great peril.
	And they're more than that, as I said.
	They're the Wall Street Mafia.
	It's Henry the Don Paulson.
	You read the New York Times, he bullied Congress.
	Bully Congress?
	What do you mean bully?
	Who is this guy to bully Congress?
	Oh, and there's Jamie Legs Diamond from JP Morgan.
	And there's, uh, who's that guy from Citigroup that put this whole Dear Grant scheme together.
	Sandy, Greedy Pig, Wilde.
	Now let's call them who they are.
	They're robbing this nation blind.
	And the people are either drugged.
	We have gone from the home of the brave to what's happened to this country.
	That we have become so subservient and so federally dictated.
	We're free and we're not brave as a nation.
	You know, people can make fun of the French all they want, but boy, the French got it down.
	Look what happened when that company was trying to shaft the employees out of their severance pay.
	You know, they tried to blow the place up and all the equipment did it.
	When they do boss snappings, these are the people that brought us off with their heads.
	They know what it's like to be living under the tyrannical government, where they say, let them eat bread, now it's give them some healthcare.
	Well, on top of this, when you look at the French, when they try to plant GMO crops there, the farmers just burn it down.
	And I don't know how Americans were always known as the quickest to stand up to tyranny.
	Now we're known worldwide as kind of the suckers.
	How did that happen?
	Well, I have to say, you know, you are what you eat, and look what this country leads, and look what they look like, and look what they've become.
	Yeah, we just became decadent.
	We're the great-grandchildren of really hard-working people, and we've become a bunch of slobs, myself included.
	We gotta get our dignity back and not be so cowed.
	Gerald, I want to take calls and get into where you see all this going, how you see the revolution breaking out, and a lot more.
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	Gerald Salente is our guest, and in just three short minutes, we're going right back to him.
	But, during the break, the last break, before last, about 10 minutes ago, I, uh, called Ted up, the owner of Genesis and Miner's Resources, and I said, do you have any of that gold and silver left from when gold was 900 bucks an ounce?
	And when silver was a dollar less, and he said, yes, we're almost out of it, but we have the very tail end, so this is the last.
	Gold up over 40 plus dollars from that point, silver way up, and this is the very end of the Lakotas, the Franks, the Sovereigns, and some other coins Ted Anderson has right now until midnight tonight.
	Ted, that's as long as you can hold it, correct?
	Well, I mean, I've already
	The price on the internet has already gone up.
	If you go to our web offers, you'll find that the Lakotas are in the $19 range, where these are still sitting at that $18.17.
	So yeah, that is a really good buy.
	The reason why I was able to put them up there is I had about 900 of them left in my inventory, although some of those are spoken for already, but I haven't received the checks from people.
	But I will hold it at that price, but then come tomorrow, it's like $19.17.
	I can't remember exactly what the number was.
	Okay, so the Lakotas are going up.
	What about gold at the lower price when you bought it at $900, $905?
	Well, that is obviously just a steal if I ever heard of one.
	I mean, you have still right now the Franks sitting at $216 a coin.
	The British Sovereign is at $266.
	Both of those coins have gone up in price.
	I don't put them on our internet site, but they all are up in price because of the fact that gold was trading at $9.13 when I locked them in at this level.
	Currently right now, today's spot price of gold, the last time I've looked, was $9.5160.
	It's been as high as $9.50 net $5.90 already today.
	So, yeah, there's definitely... Yeah, and to simplify this, folks, for people to understand, you bought this gold and silver when the market two or three weeks ago was, in gold, almost $50 lower than it is now, and in silver over a dollar lower than it is now.
	So you're selling out of these stores you have.
	You're almost out.
	Instead of raising your prices when gold and silver goes up, that's how you should make a profit.
	You know, we're capitalists, we're not communists.
	You're passing those savings on, but this is the end.
	This is the last time, Ted, correct?
	It is the end of this.
	I can tell you right now, Alex, I placed an order today for 5,000 more Lakotas.
	And, uh, the price is much higher than what I'm offering right now, so I can't do that.
	And is this the end for the gold?
	Is this the end for the gold?
	The gold is still, they're both the same thing.
	I mean, the gold is...
	I mean, I'm lucky to be able to carry it through midnight.
	I will, just because I'll lose some money on some of the deals.
	Okay, so you're almost completely out.
	The brokers will be there until midnight tonight.
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	You've got to call and say it's the Alex Jones, Ted Anderson, Radio Special, 800-686-2237.
	Ted, thank you so much.
	Yeah, thanks for having me up, Alex.
	You bet.
	Going back to Gerald Salento, I appreciate holding the website again.
	We'll put up on screen for you right now for folks watching at PrisonPlanet.tv, TrendsResearch.com.
	Gerald, I'm just going to throw this at you in the cold.
	I don't even know what your view is on this particularly.
	What do you think of people getting out of paper and moving partially into silver or gold?
	Is that generally a smart idea?
	Well, we don't give investment advice, but I can tell you that I'm 80% invested in gold, and I keep buying it.
	And my strategy, by the way, is that I also hedge my currencies in the sense that I'll own dollars, but I'll also own euros.
	One goes up, the other goes down.
	I just want parity to keep what I have.
	This is about wealth preservation.
	And to us, gold is the wild card.
	But having said that, as you may or may not know, in our December 2001, we had said that gold prices had bottomed.
	And we've been bullish on gold since, and we're predicting in our forecast of gold 2000.
	Do you have an idea when?
	Really?
	No, it's hard to tell, because as you well know, these markets are being highly manipulated.
	And around the world, people are bailing out of bucks, as we spoke about earlier.
	And they're looking for a new reserve currency.
	I mentioned earlier that the Obama administration is holding out, coming out with their budget projections, waiting until the dead heat of summer.
	When everyone's in a vacation state of mind and Congress isn't there.
	So there could be some very earth-shaking developments that are going to rattle the dollar.
	So it could happen at any time, but always remember that the game is going to be manipulated because once the world wakes up to the idea that their fiat currencies aren't going to be worth
	Because of gold issues.
	And they know what it's like.
	These are the people, the Weimar Republic.
	They still have the people alive that told the stories of going to a supermarket with a wheelbarrow of money.
	And they know how it happened because they printed phantom money out of thin air based on nothing and producing practically nothing.
	So that's why we're bullish on gold.
	But the bankers to kill hyperinflation aren't just loaning the money, so instead you have everything imploding while they print fiat to buy up real infrastructure and then, from the experts we've talked to, I want to see if you agree with the general economist we've had on, that then later the hyperinflation comes as an added nightmare over a depression economy, the untold superstorm or perfect storm of hyper-stag inflation.
	Yeah, that's very true.
	And depression, actually.
	Hyperinflation and depression.
	Look at the numbers.
	You well know, depending on who you talk to, the effective unemployment rate is 18.7 percent.
	Others are saying the unofficial rate is 20 percent.
	So that's what we're really looking at.
	People going... These kids are going to
	That's what I was about to say.
	You were saying the next big bubble is the college bubble.
	They're going into debt now for jobs that aren't even going to exist, and the commercial real estate, as you said on the show a year and a half ago, is starting to implode.
	They're saying that's the next big one.
	Give us some of those trends.
	But going back to gold, because we've interviewed so many experts who are bullish or bearish on gold, but all of them acknowledge
	That everybody should be partially in gold and silver as a hedge against inflation, as an emergency parachute to just protect wealth, to make sure you've got something that can't be dissipated overnight like paper.
	But, that speculatively, it's also the biggest boon in speculative, because if the dollar does implode or other major currencies, they're all overprinting right now as you know, that's kind of their answer is global inflation, kind of at parity, that gold could go to $3,000, $4,000.
	It really can.
	Well, it can.
	And then if there's war on top of this, because who knows?
	They keep talking about bombing Iran, Israel does, or invading them at some level.
	And we've said from the onset that if the United States or Israel attack Iran, it's the beginning of World War III.
	Because then you're going to
	I think so.
	If the unemployment rate in the United States goes back to 4.5%, we wipe out our trade deficits, our budget deficits, and that's highly unlikely.
	And you're physically holding it.
	You can jump out of it if it starts going down, or you can wait until it goes back up the next time.
	I have to tell you something that's very important.
	I've been buying gold for a long time.
	In life, you have ups and downs.
	Let's not be fake about this.
	I've had lean years in my life.
	What saved me was having gold.
	Because as you well know, getting rid of gold, cashing in gold isn't as easy as writing a check.
	So you really have to think twice and three times and four times before you unload that gold.
	And so you hold on to that store base of wealth without writing a check off to go spend it or to pay a debt.
	And what I also did with my gold is I used it as collateral to borrow, knowing that I wanted that gold back.
	And I never had any problem loaning money, borrowing money privately, having that as a backdrop.
	So I'm a firm believer in gold.
	It's good as gold is the saying.
	I just wanted to bring that up because everything else is performing like hell right now.
	Treasuries almost have no yield.
	Everybody's running to them.
	And it's just an amazing scam we're witnessing.
	I want to go to calls for Gerald Celente here in just a moment in the time we have left.
	But, Gerald, how do you see... Well, two questions before I forget.
	First, the flu hype.
	Killed maybe 200 people worldwide.
	They're talking about global force inoculations.
	Is this the Global World Trade Organization, World Health Organization, cover to bring in control?
	Why are they saying, oh, it's all over in the fall, they're the ones fear-mongering in government?
	A. And then B, is that kind of a backdrop?
	If they need to suppress revolution, they'll just hype up fear about flu, and then people will stand down because that was said of Mexico.
	What they're doing and why, we don't know.
	We're not on the inside, but I will tell you what we're forecasting.
	And we're forecasting that there's going to be something.
	And it's going to be, we're calling it the new black plague, and it's going to be real.
	You can't put poison in your food, in the air, in the water.
	You can't dump, you just can't keep poisoning the host without causing a host of problems.
	So there's going to be something that breaks down the immune systems.
	Is this really it?
	Probably not.
	Are the drug companies going to benefit from anything that happens?
	Absolutely.
	Will they use something like this as the false flag to declare martial law and to take the people that were once the home of the free and the brave into federal dictate and to subservience?
	Yes, they could very well use something like that as a scare tactic.
	And look, I mean, Bush used the most effective one that I've seen in my lifetime with the War on Terror.
	Absolutely, and then they've got the continuing and imploding economy.
	I mean, people have to go to the government for help through that, and then now they're announcing he's breaking all his promises, he's going to raise health care taxes on everybody, and surtaxes and green taxes on everybody's electricity.
	I mean, would you say Obama wins or is a contender for the crown of the biggest liar?
	Because I thought Clinton was a liar.
	I thought Bush was a liar.
	Well, the thing that we put Obama in is the mass destruction of what was once the entrepreneurial empire into what Mussolini said, the merger of state and corporate powers into fascism, where government and major corporations are running the whole show.
	Again, you know, look at the people, look at the banks, look at the control.
	And so that's what we see.
	And by the way, people ask us, what are some of the solutions?
	We don't need Wall Street.
	We need Main Street.
	We don't need Walmarts.
	We need mom and pops.
	We don't need agribusiness.
	We need family farms.
	We don't need Monsanto.
	We need organic.
	And this is not hyperbole, it's a fact.
	A fact based on the knowledge that we were, the United States of America, the most egalitarian nation on Earth.
	Respected and envied by everyone else on Earth.
	From the most egalitarian, when that model existed,
	Main Street, Mom and Pop, Family Farm, and Organic, we have now become the nation where the gap between the rich and the poor is the widest of any of the industrialized nations, and where we used to be number one in healthcare, in education, in longevity, in quality of life, when we lived by Main Street, Mom and Pop,
	Because we're mentally and spiritually poisoned and the establishment knew that and all those big
	Vertically integrated corporate structures are waging war against mom and pop and Main Street.
	And now they've got the animal ID, the premises ID, openly to shut down family farms and ranches, the Clean Water Restoration Act to federalize all the water.
	I mean, they're coming in as the economy implodes, trying to pass the carbon tax, knowing it'll shut things down further.
	This is like the global mafia burning us out.
	What?
	So you're saying the revolution isn't just physical?
	It's gonna be people not going to Walmart anymore, people planting their own gardens, people not doing what the local thugs and feds say, and people just getting back to basics?
	Or what else is in the revolution?
	I boycott corporate food.
	I won't eat it.
	I won't.
	I go to the local guy.
	I won't go to the Dunkin Donuts guy.
	You know, I support.
	I go to the farmers markets.
	I don't buy factory food.
	You know, Alex, we just saw Obama.
	They made a whole big deal about them planting their organic garden.
	I don't know.
	The rest of you people out there, fatten yourself up on the junk food.
	What goes in goes out.
	Junk food, junk minds, junk thinking.
	And for this country to get back to where it used to be, we need a renaissance.
	And the renaissance is a rebirth.
	A rebirth to when America was great.
	When Main Street ruled.
	We're multi-millionaires!
	Where do they come off?
	Goldman Sachs saying that, well, we earn these profits and we're distributing this money, these bonuses to our people because we're such brilliant traders.
	Oh yeah?
	How about the $13 billion we gave you to cover your bad bets with AIG?
	And then they took the money and then loaned it to us in interest, and it's just total bastards.
	We're going to come back in the final segment and talk to Maria, Linda, and Randall.
	Quick comments, quick questions from those three callers, quick answers from Gerald Cilente, and I can't wait to have him back up again soon.
	But Wendy, we got 30 seconds before break.
	Gerald, when do you see physical confrontation, rioting beginning?
	You know, we may see riots this summer as the heat of the city streets becomes uncontrollable, as people can't find jobs and have no future.
	And then they're talking about, by next year, 25% unemployment?
	And when you look upon the minority groups, the people that have no education, and they're drugged out, you have a recipe for violence and disaster.
	Stay there, Gerald Cilente.
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	Gerald Cilente, I want to jam in a few final calls here for you, but quickly, I have this question.
	Can all the King's horses, all the King's men, all the police state grid they've set up, planning this bankruptcy all along, to bring in their new world order, is it going to be successful?
	Because even with all the Obama hype, it's not working.
	I mean, this looks like it's going to turn into a really bloody confrontation.
	Well, it's gonna be ugly.
	I mean, now they're changing their tune from Green Shoots.
	Now they're saying a double-dip recession.
	It's not a double-dip recession.
	It never ended.
	Jobless recovery?
	Jobless recovery?
	It's like almost pregnant, isn't it?
	No, so no, they're not going to be able to stop it.
	The only way they will be able to stop it is to continue to do what they're doing and that is to keep the people under federal dictate and to make them more subservient and the pressure that is going to
	They're going to be bearing upon the people at every level, from parking meters to property taxes, from federal taxes to sin taxes.
	It's going to be taxes.
	They're going to squeeze the little people until there are riots and rebellions.
	And by the way, the tea parties and tax protests, that's just the beginning.
	It was history that has been made, and they're trying to play it down.
	Maria in California, you're on the air with Gerald Solente.
	Hi Jones, I'm Solente.
	It's an honor to speak with both of you.
	I actually wanted to call in because I'm calling from Pomona, California, and in the past two months the police activity here has gone from hearing them once maybe every other month to hearing them three times a day.
	I'm hearing the ambulance go off and the police everywhere.
	And I just want to know, if I'm living in a suburban area like this, I mean, how bad is it going to get while our city council... Yeah, that's something they're covering up, Gerald, obviously.
	Crimes exploding.
	Uh, they're trying to squeeze the public.
	It's not working.
	You said a year ago on this show, California was going to collapse.
	That's now beginning, Gerald.
	Yes, it is beginning.
	There's going to be other states to follow.
	I mean, Michigan, around Detroit, it's a war zone.
	And you know, my saying as a Bronx boy is, when people lose everything and they have nothing left to lose, they lose it.
	We're going to see
	It's going to turn ugly over the years.
	So I'm a believer in Second Amendment rights, as are you, Alex, and that people need to learn self-protection because nobody's going to protect you.
	And as you also know, I'm a close combat practitioner, and John Perkins from attackproof.com has been, you know, my teacher for, you know, many, many years.
	So, people have to understand there will be no savior other than yourself.
	Absolutely.
	Maria, does that answer your question?
	Yes, it does.
	One more question.
	I've prepared, I've stockpiled, I have my gun and everything.
	What can I do with the rest of my fiat money?
	Well, again, we don't give financial advice.
	I can only tell you what I do with mine.
	And I'm very heavily invested in gold.
	And I also, what I do is because I run a business, I need cash.
	I put my money between different currencies so that if the dollar goes down, the other one goes up.
	Maria, you answered that earlier.
	We gotta jump.
	Final call, Linda in Rhode Island.
	Quickly, you're on the air with Gerald Cilente.
	Hi Alex and Gerald.
	I have a question for Gerald.
	Last week, Bob Chapman was on and he stated that they would close the banks for a week and that they were going to open them up again and everything would be alright.
	I think he was too light-hearted on that.
	Can you say something about that?
	Well, if they close the banks, we believe that they'll devalue the dollar when they reopen them.
	You won't be able to get all your money back out.
	They'll use the Argentinian method.
	That's what they did over there when their dollar collapsed, and that's what we believe they'll do over here.
	Does that answer your question, Linda?
	You'll be able to get your money, but you won't be able to get it out all at once.
	Right.
	And it won't be worth what it was if they close the banks.
	Yeah, because who's going to want to go to work thinking, oh, maybe they'll get paid in a month.
	Yeah, Linda, thank you.
	Gerald Salente, thank you so much for spending time with us.
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	Thank you, Alex.
	Always great being on your show.
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	Oh, we've just got a few minutes left with Manny Badia, then we've got the legend, if I even knew the word, Jebber Griffin, joining us for the Balance of the Hour, and the folks that have been holding that you're going to talk to Griffin.
	So, we save the best for last.
	You get to hold, we get to talk to him, we all want to hear from everybody and appreciate folks that, uh, I meant to get the calls earlier in the hour, I was just covering all the eugenics news, never got around to some of those calls.
	Going back to Manny Medeo.
	Okay, so you're in this meeting.
	Tell us where it was, what was happening.
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	We're gonna get very, very soon.
	Just make sure I don't miss that when it comes.
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	You're going to be getting that within the next couple of days.
	We're still waiting to hear back from the prosecution team that asked me to email them about this evidence, which could very easily be found by simple internet searches.
	Well, they always say that.
	We didn't know that Bin Laden had been CIA.
	It's just BBC, AP, Reuters.
	But we didn't know NORAD stood down that day and there were drills of hijacked jets flying into the buildings.
	But all that aside, where were you?
	You got invited.
	What else did you ask them?
	Because you told us in the end they were telling you, shut up.
	Yeah, essentially they were saying, listen, where did you get that from?
	You email us.
	That's it.
	That's it.
	You know, it comes down to this.
	I brought up the fact that the Saudi, the case that the family members brought, all the way to the Supreme Court, that the Supreme Court refused to listen to as of last week.
	7,000 family members with the evidence against Saudi Arabia.
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	Is this going to be another sham trial that the family members then have to go through and then expect to have some sort of justice?
	And I said to them this, I said, does anybody here really feel that it was only five people that did this?
	Silence.
	Alex, there had to be at least four or five times of silence, and that's why it's so important that the mission of nyccan.org is accomplished.
	Exactly, and we'll have you back on about that, but I want to continue in the limited time with this.
	Because talking to you over the phone, my producer said that you also said at one point they just said, look, be quiet, shut up.
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	Exactly.
	They were asking me where it came from.
	I was telling them this is AP Reuters sourced.
	I was telling them this comes from intelligence agencies.
	The Indian intelligence agency actually spoke about... Did you tell them about Stringman, the head of the visa in Saudi Arabia, and he's being told let Adam and them in?
	They're CIA?
	That I didn't have an opportunity to, but this is something else that I can continue to correspond with him on.
	I mean, this is on record that the hijackers were all trained at U.S.
	military bases in super high clearance.
	That's AP.
	I mean, this is a fact.
	I mean, that the embassies wouldn't let them in, and they'd say, let them in.
	These are high-level operatives.
	Yes, sir!
	I mean, case closed.
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	I actually, and I commented a few times to a few of my close friends about how the next night I was on a conference call with Candace Gorman.
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	She goes, I know I can defend them because there are no facts they're bringing up.
	That's all I hear her say.
	So, you know, I thought about this, Alex.
	I was one of maybe
	You also told us that they admitted they have no evidence, but Obama admits that.
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	Well, I mean, this is what happens.
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	Well, G. Edward Griffin with Freedom Force International is an icon.
	In the liberty and freedom movement, the anti-new order movement.
	In fact, he's probably the greatest living person out there who continually on a large scale, on a big platform, has made scores of films, presentations, best-selling books, creature from Jekyll Island, traveling the country, the world, fighting the globalists.
	And we stand on his shoulders today, but he also stands right beside us because he's still fighting more than ever.
	He's a great gentleman and very articulate.
	And I'm very excited that he's going to be interviewed in my newest Obama film.
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	But just so many great people in this film.
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	Also, Jason Burmese is going out there interviewing him.
	He's going to be in Burmese's film, Invisible Empire, with a big role in that, exposing kind of the architecture of the New World Order.
	But, this just broke over the weekend.
	Roland Daly's kind of copied our story, which we're glad.
	All we care about is exposing it.
	The original place was Front Page Magazine in February, but nobody believed it because David Horowitz is somewhat discredited.
	But we got the actual textbook.
	We have the scans of it, and it's up on InfoWars.com.
	Obama's science advisor called for planetary regime to enforce totalitarian population control, implants to control us, CPS taking all children at birth, a planetary government of green police, forced drugging of the water,
	uh... and of the food and and and this is a government plan the book is as you see on screen at prison planet dot tv eco science population resources environment and uh... this was he co-wrote this with paul r who was one of bush's chief advisors so this is bipartisan
	Um, but Front Page Magazine and the neocons are acting like it's a liberal issue, though I have to admit the Democrats are more overtly eugenicists.
	You know, Margaret Sanger is praised by the black community because she called blacks subhuman.
	That's the sick, twisted...
	Crate like Schwarzenegger gets ADL awards because he says he wants to be like Hitler.
	But if you fight Hitler, then the ADL attacks you.
	Reality is much stranger than fiction, as they say.
	So I wanted to get Gilbert Griffin out of the gates to talk about this, but overall, the big eugenics agenda, the plan, the carbon tax, which we couldn't see until they passed it, home inspections, federal zoning,
	One-child policies.
	I have USA Today.
	here in my stack that says that, in fact put it on screen for folks, it says that, oh the bad economy's good for the carbon footprint, command destruction, how they want to bring us back to a rewilding, a neo-feudalism, a serfdom.
	G. Edward Griffin, author of The Creation from Jekyll Island.
	Thanks for being here with us.
	Well, thanks for inviting me, Alex.
	I really appreciate that very kind introduction, but it scares the heck out of me because I think people expect too much
	No brag, just fact.
	That's what John Wayne said.
	People need to know the testament of the great work you've done in 40 plus years.
	In fact, briefly, how long have you been fighting the globalists?
	How'd you wake up, Joe?
	And then let's get into eugenics.
	Well, the actual year of my beginning of awakening was 1959.
	And that's when I began to read some things that were, you know, upstream.
	That's not the same stuff that I was seeing on the media.
	And by 1960, I was in full swing.
	So I've been in those things since 1960.
	Amazing.
	So we're talking about almost 50 years.
	Yeah, really.
	Time flies.
	You know, I hope I look as good as you when I'm your age.
	You're a... What a gentleman you are.
	No, no, no.
	You're a handsome devil.
	I would just send you a pair of glasses.
	Okay, uh, and we're going to fire up your website coming up in a few minutes, so folks, you get ready for that.
	You have Freedom Force International taking action against these globalists, but eugenics.
	I mean, in my research, everything leads to that.
	Our entire society is built for a social engineering grid.
	Break that down from your 60 years of research and what their endgame is in light of this government textbook, internal textbook.
	It's now come out, written by Bush's advisor and Obama's advisor, calling for a planetary government to kill us.
	Well, I had two thoughts as you were introducing the topic, and one of the thoughts is that even though I was not aware of this very latest development which you announced, it does not surprise me in the least because it's just more of the same.
	So the first thought has to do with, if you understand what the idea
	The ideology is of these people who have been running our government for many years.
	It's called collectivism.
	And if you understand what that entails, then you know right away what these people are going to do, because that's based upon their ideology.
	The ideology is that they must have total control over the entire population.
	Thank you.
	Well, then you can predict what's going to happen.
	They're going to want to control not only your health, but your reproductive rights.
	They'll control who will survive and who will be exterminated.
	They'll control what you do for a living, where you live, how much you eat, what you think.
	You know, all of these things, because you become a cog in a giant machine.
	So, the first thought that crossed my mind was that, okay, well, here comes eugenics again.
	That's always happened.
	In every collectivist regime on this planet, whether it be communism or fascism and Nazism, or some of these other isms in Asia and Africa right now, that's part of the animal.
	That's what it does.
	The other thought is, you mentioned it, is that this is not a partisan issue at all.
	You'll find this mentality in both the Republican and the Democrat parties, because both parties are dominated by collectivists.
	So, one of the things we have to do is strip out that concept that Republicans and Democrats oppose each other on anything significant.
	So, those are the thoughts that cross my mind.
	And, you know, once people get the picture of this, and they understand that collectivism is the great destroyer of their freedom, then they won't fall for this nonsense about, well, are they Republicans or are they Democrats doing this?
	I want you to elaborate on this because you have these big monopoly capitalists who always advertise their free market, but really what they want is big governments, big systems to shut down their competition to bring in control, and then because they are collectivists, they collect our wealth and give it to themselves, and then use the little bit they give back to us to domesticate us, then why should they even want us here
	In their collectivist model of everything shared, well they want to get rid of people so there's more for the few that are left.
	This is their whole social engineering goal.
	Well, there is a certain element of that in their thinking.
	They do want to limit the population because they're afraid that if the population gets too large, it becomes unmanageable.
	Their primary concern is how to manage the population.
	Like a herd of cattle, if the herd gets too big, you know, you have trouble managing it.
	It could break out of the boundaries of the North 40 someplace.
	So there's a certain element to keep the size of the herd down.
	But the other element is that they need workers.
	They want people out there producing and serving so that they can create all of the fine things of life which the elite will enjoy.
	They want a working class and they want a servitude class.
	And they want our women.
	I mean, they don't want to kill all of us, just 80%.
	Well, I don't know what the number is, but whatever it is, they have no qualms about it.
	That's for sure.
	Well, you know, the United Nations Biological Diversity Assessment 96 says a world population reduction of 80%.
	80 is the number you get from Ted Turner and people.
	But yeah, I mean, some say even more, some say less.
	Yeah, whatever it is, if they wanted to reduce it 5%, the principle is the same.
	Yeah, which is total dictatorial power.
	Yeah, over who lives and who dies.
	How would you say their program's going right now, watching it closely for 60 years?
	I mean, to me, watching it for 15 or so, it looks like they've got the power, they're steering things, but they don't have total control, and as they build their New World Order, it's falling apart as fast as they build it.
	Well, yes, I can see elements of that.
	It's certainly not all in the bag, that's for sure, but I see it as an accelerating process and it worries the heck out of me because once the dam starts to break, and it looks to me like it's breaking up now, the pieces falling out start
	They're becoming larger, and they start falling faster, and so this great outpouring of water from behind the dam, when I say that, I'm thinking of our freedoms.
	Our freedoms are being flooded out through a huge breach in the dam, and it seems to be going faster and faster, and so I'm very concerned about that.
	We could come up with some event or series of events almost any day, which they could justify, they could use as justification.
	We're good to go.
	But I guess that's part of it.
	They've got to destroy a lot of stuff to build the new system, where if they destroy everything, then only their central hubs are left, and so by extension, by the rule of heavenly bodies or gravitational pull, it will pull everything into it.
	Yeah, that's a perfect analogy, I think.
	And also, you have to remember that certain subgroups within the collectivist movement
	And I think that kind of actually pigeonholes them and trips them up a lot.
	Well, let's hope it does.
	The point is, I think, to all of this is that we certainly cannot sit back and just wait for it to crumble because they've got plans for us that we're not going to like.
	We have to fight this with everything we have.
	Well, let's talk about what the plans are versus our plans and also how you see the economic collapse, engineered or not, what's happening with the global carbon tax, what life will be like under that.
	I mean, this is the actual Soviet Union is what I'd call it we're going into, but we'll get Jim Griffiths take on that in just a moment.
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	G. Edward Griffin is our guest icon in the fight for liberty.
	So excited about him in my new Obama film.
	I'll soon announce the name.
	And he's going to be in Burmese's Visible Empire film.
	So we're going out to California interviewing.
	Well, my team is.
	I'm going out to California separately right before they go for another interview.
	I'll just leave that unnamed.
	But going back to G. Edward Griffin in this short segment.
	I mean, there's so many questions.
	Your take on the banking implosion, Federal Reserve to get power over all industry, the green taxes, the carbon taxes, home inspections, federal zoning where it says they can just take your house, no judge, no jury, that's in there.
	I mean, it looks like on every front, federalization of water, gun control, they're moving on every front right now.
	Is this...
	A bum rush where we're getting hit with so much?
	I mean, why are they moving so quick right now?
	Well, I guess it's because they want to tie it up as quickly as possible, Alex.
	You know, they don't want to allow the people too much time to think about it and to develop opposition.
	And we get it all done!
	Right now, I think it's come to the end, almost to the end of the honeymoon in the Obama administration in the first few months.
	Uh, they could do just about anything they wanted to.
	Uh, people would say, well, we don't know.
	Give them a chance.
	Let them work it out and so forth.
	And they know that they didn't get too much done right away, that later on opposition might be developed to it.
	So I think that's part of it.
	And the other thing is, it's got a lot more to do with this one administration versus another administration.
	These people who are dreaming up this legislation and writing these laws, they're not thinking as Republicans or Democrats.
	They're thinking as globalist collectivists trying to create the New World Order.
	That's their mission.
	They want to get that thing built.
	They want to get on with it, you know?
	That's their dream.
	And meanwhile, all the folks back here at home are still thinking in terms of these people, well why would a good Republican do that?
	Or why would a good Democrat do that?
	You know, and they don't get it!
	That this has got nothing at all to do with partisan politics!
	So I think they're in a hurry, so that the, uh, too many of the American people don't wake up!
	Let me get it all done!
	Well, I don't know what more I could say about that, except that we're living in a time where events are moving very rapidly.
	I guess people have always said that throughout history, but also I think that it's true that because of technology, things do move more rapidly as the years go by.
	And I think the time that they figure to wrap up the New World Order is definitely within this generation.
	It used to be, I think, that they were thinking in terms of, well, two or three generations down the line, we'll get it all done.
	But now I think they've decided it's this generation, which means within this 20-year time span, probably less than that.
	And so it's moving very rapidly.
	And, you know, we were talking just a moment ago about what you, you know, can we turn this around?
	Are we going to win?
	Are we going to lose?
	Everybody wants to, you know, think, what do I do?
	What's going to happen?
	What can I do for my family?
	How do I prepare?
	All of these things.
	And nothing wrong with that kind of thinking.
	It's realistic thinking.
	But the main question is, are we going to win or are we going to lose?
	And my feeling is very strong on that, is that we are definitely going to win this battle, because freedom will always win out.
	But the question, the annoying question is, how long will it take?
	Is it going to be by the next election?
	No, it's definitely not going to be that long.
	Yeah, how bad is it going to get?
	And one big problem with winning is people are in this instant gratification, give me the Wendy's hamburger in 10 seconds or I'm angry.
	I catch myself even like this.
	It takes time to grow a orchard.
	It takes time to put in a garden.
	It takes time to build a new world order.
	It takes time to defeat it.
	And things are moving very quickly now.
	We're having great victories.
	People need to be more positive and realize things don't happen instantly.
	And I agree with you.
	We're going to win.
	The question is how bad will it get?
	How many of us will be enslaved?
	And we talk about if they win, what is it like?
	It's like living under Joe Stalin with a high-tech overlay, isn't it?
	Yeah, I think that's a good analogy.
	He has a high-tech overlay.
	A lot more effective means of controlling people, controlling their thoughts, controlling their health, their movement, and a lot more sophisticated weapons to put down opposition.
	Yeah, that's the high-tech overlay that makes it really scary.
	But, yes, back to the theme, which is, how long is it going to take?
	That's been one of the main points of Freedom Force International, is that we have the long view of history, and a lot of people get very impatient with that.
	I can understand that.
	I used to be impatient with that point of view when I was a young guy.
	I remember, we were talking a moment ago, when did I start down this path?
	Well, back in 1960.
	And I remember back in the 60s, listening to some of the old-timers say, well, this is going to take quite a while to turn around, and I kept saying,
	The heck it is.
	Wait till I get in there, you know.
	I'll turn this thing around right away.
	Well, turns out that the old timers were right.
	And, uh... It turns out, hold on, 60 years is a blink of an eye, though.
	You've done a lot to start turning the ship.
	You have influenced tens of millions, G. Everett Griffin.
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	You take a mortal man You put him in control And put him in control Watch him become a god Watch people's heads unroll
	Just like the Pied Piper, turn rats loose.
	Elite create their own crises.
	And then once you start playing to their tune, crank it up!
	Just like the Pied Piper, let rats through the streets.
	We dance like a merry mess, swaying to the symphony of destruction.
	Acting like a robot.
	It's metal brain corrodes.
	You try to take us boss.
	Before the head explodes.
	Well, how do they do that?
	I guess it's time to plug a couple of websites.
	Our commercial website, as you know, it's called The Reality Zone, and that's easy to remember, realityzone.com.
	We've got about a hundred different items there, some of my books and video programs, audio recordings, plus we carry the good stuff from other people as well.
	But that's a commercial site, plenty of information.
	If you're a reader or you like to watch videos, there's enough there for almost a year of your time of study.
	But if you want to get involved in an organization that's trying to do something about it and trying to recapture control of our political system, then you want to go to the Freedom Force site, and that's freedomforceinternational.org.
	And I can't tell you too much about it because it takes too much time to tell you about it except that there's a plan there to do something about it.
	To not just complain, not just to read another book, but to actually acquire, or reacquire I should say, reacquire power over the political system of all of the countries.
	That's right, we have to infiltrate the system like they've done to us.
	I wouldn't say infiltrate, that's got a negative connotation to it.
	We should be there all the time anyway.
	No, I agree, but I mean they covertly infiltrated, and I think in a war it's good to be overt, but if people choose to be covert, and we get sent a lot of secret documents, and I mean that is infiltration.
	That's the American people re-infiltrating their own government.
	Well, I have to agree with the principle.
	We have to go back to where we should have been all along.
	When you've got self-government, you better be involved in government, not just turn it over to somebody else, because then it's not self-government anymore.
	Well, I'll say this.
	The government that's out of control and illegitimate and owned by offshore banks publicly now, in fraud, they act like we are criminal infiltrators and we try to go to a city council meeting, or try to go hold a sign-up on the street corner.
	We all have to exercise that power or lose it.
	That's right.
	We have to be in the political halls of the nation.
	You know, the motto, sort of the unofficial motto of Freedom Force is, don't fight City Hall when you can be City Hall.
	And that sums it up.
	And I'm happy to say that our members all over the country are gradually getting the idea and they're successfully moving into political groups.
	And the system is worried.
	They're putting out reports going, there's police, there's military, there's these anti-Federal Reserve people.
	They're everywhere!
	They might get us!
	Oh no!
	Well, yeah, they might become mayors of cities, they may become members of city councils, they may become elected to state positions, they may become chiefs of police.
	Who knows?
	They may actually recapture control of their own system.
	That's the whole idea.
	Oh, we don't want to do that.
	And throw out the evil mayors who are on offshore payrolls publicly.
	You know, one thing, not just getting back into government and the system, but also surveilling corrupt politicians legally.
	I mean, most of these guys are really corrupt.
	You'll catch them with hookers, gambling, stealing, weird stuff.
	If you just go out and surveil corrupt people, folks, they're doing evil.
	You know, good people are just at home barbecuing and hanging out with the family.
	These globalists are all scum.
	And they're all degenerates.
	You don't do bad things in life unless you're overall bad.
	And, you know, I say play hardball with them, too.
	Well, yeah, it is partly the nature of the beast of this thing we call government.
	We've allowed it to grow and grow and become more powerful.
	And whenever you've got a center of power like that,
	It's a magnet for the criminal class or the predator class.
	People who want to take advantage of others just instinctively gravitate to something like that.
	So part of our long-range strategy for success and victory that we were talking about is to dismantle that magnet so that it won't attract that criminal class anymore.
	Yeah, if there's not a big government, there's no power, mass, or levers for a psycho or control freak to get control of.
	If we build these giant government systems, they're going to be taken over by crooks if they weren't built by them to begin with.
	That's right.
	So, people haven't thought that all the way through.
	They think that the solution to corruption in government is to make government stronger.
	More investigations, more laws, and so forth, and that's just the opposite of the solution.
	That structure should start to be dismantled and all of these tools that they have for controlling the lives of its citizens need to be just eliminated.
	And then citizens will automatically start killing snakes in their own backyards instead of calling the government to do it.
	And then citizens will start putting up their own fences and start learning how to defend themselves.
	And then the wealth and money and ideas go back into the free market.
	Instead of, I look at the general public, they're totally domesticated.
	I'm domesticated compared to my dad.
	He's domesticated compared to his dad.
	I mean, we really are becoming weaklings.
	Yeah, well that's been part of the strategy and it's interesting to me because over the years I've had a chance to study some of the more esoteric literature by these people.
	You know, the deep linkers, the scholars on the collectivist side.
	You don't run into their names often, but they've written books, they've given speeches and lectures.
	Some of them are in academia.
	And they waxed eloquent about how wonderful it would be to domesticate the human race and breed out of them all of these aggressive instincts, as they say.
	And to convert the human animal into a productive and kind and gentle thing.
	And of course, they say if they have to kill a few million people along the way to do that, and torture a few, well, that's okay.
	The end justifies the means.
	It's pretty amazing how they justify these things.
	Well, the truth is, when you really meet these liberal collectivists, and they're not really liberal, but that's what they usually are hiding under that mantle.
	It's like, it's like, yes, we're going to have to kill a lot, and you see them kind of going, you know, just getting off on it.
	And the truth is, they're killer apes in their own view.
	They're just high-functioning psychos who act like they're these egalitarians, and really, they're just a bunch of lunatic control freaks that
	Yeah, I think they're certainly true.
	A lot of them are just like that.
	They may look very meek and mild and be wearing bifocals, but there is a killer instinct there, yeah.
	And we've got to re-harness our killer instinct for defense.
	That's the problem.
	I found really intelligent, overconfident, nice, friendly people are gregarious, good-natured, don't want to get involved.
	We kind of just sit back and then there's these little greedy, weak people who want to get in the power and then hate those of us that are strong.
	And I found that to be the secret to eugenics is they sell it to the strong
	As, oh, we're just going to make the strong and the healthy have more of the world, which is bad enough because it always leads to evil.
	But in truth, they're actually targeting the strong.
	Well, yeah, they're targeting... Yeah, the strength or the weakness of an individual has nothing to do with their plan, even though they say that it does.
	But what their plan is focused on is the ideological orientation of the individual.
	Strong or weak, if they support their collectivist agenda, then they are to be defended and preserved.
	If they're opposed to the collectivist agenda, then they're alleged to be defective and must be eliminated.
	So strength or weakness is measured primarily in terms of the degree to which individuals support their agenda.
	But like an animal farm, when the big stallion workhorse breaks his back trying to make more money for the pigs, then they load him up and sell him to the glue factory.
	So they also, at the same time, do hate the beautiful, the smart, the intelligent.
	Most of these eugenicists are like goblin-like creatures who want to pull everything down.
	Yeah, they get to be very analytical about society.
	They look at the human being as a machine, something to be controlled and directed, you know?
	In fact, my mind just went back to that famous line attributed to Rothschild.
	I had it in my book.
	It said that the rulers of society, and they were referring indirectly to the Rothschilds in this sense, they look at man as a machine and woman as a toy.
	I thought, boy, that's quite an egalitarian view of the world, I would say.
	But they certainly do look at men as machines, machines to be controlled and put to work, and if they don't work well, then destroy them.
	Well, I want to take a few calls for G. Edward Griffin, Ronnie, Rob, Adam, Greg, and Chris, and that'll be it.
	We can take those five.
	Sorry to the others.
	But I wanted just to get your view on the carbon tax.
	This is wildly unpopular.
	I think it's going to blow up in their face.
	Not letting anybody read the bill.
	300 pages of it.
	Now we've got it.
	And they're trying to pass the Senate.
	Federal home inspectors and
	Selective carbon taxes on who they want?
	It's like Obama selectively deciding who can keep their dealerships.
	I mean, we're really seeing a takeover and the gas, the honeymoon is running out quick on this guy.
	Well, yes, and I certainly agree that people are fed up with all of it, and this just is like another straw on the camel's back, but I'm not so sure about whether they're going to not be allowed to continue.
	Because, you know, these people really don't care what the American people think right now.
	They've come to the point where they just sort of go ahead anyway.
	I mean, this whole issue of global warming is a perfect example.
	I would say that about a year or a year and a half ago, if you were to poll the average citizen out there, the overwhelming majority of them would say, oh yes, we've got global warming, yes, it's something that's very serious, but we've got to do something about it.
	But now, with all of the scientific evidence that has come out, and all of the obvious fact of global cooling that's been taking place for about a year now, I think if you poll the average person, they'd say, yeah, there's a bunch of bunk, there's no global.
	Warming going on at all, and these guys just want to use that as an excuse to have a tax and have more power.
	That's the drift of the thinking, but does it stop?
	Does it stop Congress?
	Does it stop the Senate?
	And that's the key!
	And no, it doesn't even slow them down!
	They don't give a damn what the American people think.
	They've got their own agenda, and they have the power to execute it.
	So that should be a wake-up call for people.
	Well, but that's the key, is that they do just ignore us on every front.
	And it's clear, they've made the decision to go ahead and push us into revolution.
	That's what their paramilitary NORTHCOM's ready for.
	They've told the police, get ready, the vets, the gun owners are going to attack you.
	And it's kind of a self-fulfilling process to further destroy the country.
	I'm not saying they're going to go with that, but if they can goad us into physical conflict, all the better for them.
	It's just another form of problem, reaction, solution.
	Your comments on that?
	Well yes, I think that they have anticipated that long ago, that inevitably it would come to an uprising.
	And so they started to prepare for it, and I think they came to the point about maybe a year, a year and a half ago, where they think that the sooner the better.
	Let's get on with it.
	Let's close the gate.
	Let's have a good excuse for bringing about martial law.
	Yeah, let's goad people into the streets.
	Let's get them
	Uh, you know, wild-eyed, full of revolt.
	You know, people don't understand the difference between a revolt and a revolution.
	Revolts never succeed.
	Revolutions sometimes succeed.
	And the difference between the two is that revolutions have leadership, they're usually conducted by governmental units within a governmental entity.
	They have manifestos, they have creeds, it's an idea.
	They have leadership, training, funding, communications, a strategy, they have everything.
	You know, just plain revolt is where people throw up their hands and say, I'm sick and tired, I'm not going to put up with it anymore, and they grab their musket and go out in the street.
	Well, they're easily mowed down.
	I mean, the American Revolution was not a revolt, it was a revolution.
	It was fought by the Continental government.
	The colonies had their militia, they had their training, their leaders, their ammunition, they had strategy, you know, funding, they had all of that.
	And they had a code, and they had a manifesto.
	Yes, but they had leadership.
	Their leaders in the colonial representative governments declared on their behalf and so forth.
	You can argue with some of that, but the point is that it was organized.
	And that also lended legitimacy.
	Yes, today these revolts that people are urging on the American people are just suicidal.
	It just makes me sick.
	Well, I actually think a revolt is going to chew up a lot of military and police, but the globalists don't care.
	That would make the government the victim, and then the real oppression comes in.
	And that's why I always see these federal operatives trying to hype it, but they never get in trouble.
	Folks, if you're not a federal operative and you call for violence, they come after you.
	They only, but they have people out there always calling for violence and saying, why doesn't Alex call for violence?
	He's a coward.
	Those are feds, folks.
	Guaranteed.
	They want to prematurely have us launch our revolution.
	We need to let the enemy's abuses continue to pile up while we continue to peacefully wake up the people until the government itself, many people in it, don't want to go along with it.
	And we're already starting to see that, G. Edward.
	I'm glad to hear that.
	I was not aware of that, but it's good news.
	Oh yeah, let's go ahead and make a call.
	Ronnie in Texas, you're on the air with G. Everett Griffin, author of Creature from Jekyll Island.
	Go ahead.
	Thank you, gentlemen.
	About a Creature from Jekyll Island, I've just given copies to the new mayor of Livingwell.
	He's sharing it with Mike Martinez and my sisters, other friends at the farmer's market and stuff.
	Copies of your book.
	It's so phenomenal.
	Well, thank you.
	Thank you.
	Oh, I'm trying to thank you.
	I'm so honored to hear your voice, and you can hear me.
	I've yet to get feedback, but I have an effective band from the City Council.
	I'm sure you have experience with that, Mr. Jones.
	OBGYN, Dr. Ron Paul, Revolution of Love for Liberty and our Sacred Constitution, through the campaign for Liberty.com, just keeps on keeping on.
	I had to throw that in there, but about what you were saying earlier, elitism is at the core of all of this.
	Bigotry and elitism.
	And so eugenics is fundamentally evil and it's our main, one of our main problems in defeating eugenics is the fact that there is some truth in what they say about human overpopulation.
	I mean, the population of humans on earth has more than doubled in my lifetime.
	And thus it is a real challenge for survival in the future.
	But I also agree with you, Mr. Jones and Mr. Watson.
	Uh, your previous guest said that killing people is not the answer.
	Obviously, there are no guarantees.
	Well, here's the deal.
	Even if you think we're overpopulated, which actually is disinfo at many levels, some of the technologies are dirty and bad and may have problems and need to be perfected or improved on.
	The issue is all this eugenics isn't about population.
	It's about control.
	It's about restricting.
	It's about feudalism.
	It's about serfdom.
	It's about a top-down, vertically integrated, global government.
	And it's about controlling human destiny and dumbing the mass down.
	I appreciate your call.
	The eugenicists are actually trying to dumb people down to make them more manageable.
	Do you ever, Griffin?
	Well, yeah.
	No question about it.
	And I think this issue of overpopulation needs to be focused on.
	The evidence is very strong that in advanced societies the population now is decreasing, decreasing.
	Only in parts of the world is it increasing.
	The answer is you increase the technology, and they all know that.
	Uh, Jim McGriffin, final segment straight ahead.
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	Final segment, and I got all these loaded phone lines here.
	I want to try to get to everybody.
	Rod in Kentucky, you're on the air with G. Edward Griffin.
	Hey, thanks for taking my call, Alex.
	Go ahead.
	Mr. Griffin, I want to say it's a pleasure to talk to you also.
	I use your CD, The Creature from Jekyll Island, as one of the intro packs I give to people to introduce them to let them know what's going on.
	The main reason I called today is I just wanted to let you know, Alex, about the soft kill weapons.
	Yeah, I think one of the main things you stressed on it this morning is I went to the doctor, had a complete panel run, all blood tests, everything was absolutely perfect.
	You know, I don't drink tap water, stuff like that.
	However, my testosterone level was 225 nanograms a deciliter.
	The average male is supposed to be 5 to 550.
	You don't start reaping the health benefits until 6 to 800.
	Now then, even if your blood panels and everything are good, if you live from middle age on with low testosterone, you are at greater, much greater risk for heart attack, stroke, and prostate cancer.
	Now then, do you think it's possible that they could be doing things already to lower the male testosterone?
	Of course, I went immediately on therapy to replace my level.
	Paul Watson, Paul Watson, uh... I mean, the reason people are polite in Texas is
	No, no, no.
	Just 56 years ago, if you were rude to somebody, they'd kill you.
	And now men just aren't as angry, they aren't as focused, or it's a fake type of, you know, masculineness.
	But armed societies are polite societies.
	Our testosterone is lower.
	Our sperm counts are way lower.
	We are... Paul Watson has an article where they're putting chemicals in the water at PrisonPlanet.com.
	Let me get a comment from Jebra Griffin on that.
	This engineering of the society.
	There's a lot of evidence for that.
	Your take on it.
	Well, my take on it is that, like everybody else, it just makes a lot of sense and you can see the evidence of it as you go.
	I haven't really checked out the science myself, Alex, like you have or Watson, but it just makes a lot of sense.
	And again, once we understand the big picture and what these people are trying to do, then it's almost a
	A perfect litmus paper test that you can use to come to a preliminary judgment anyway as to whether something is true or false.
	You do have to run it down and, you know, clarify it and check it out yourself.
	But you have a pretty good feeling for whether something is true or false when you understand how well it fits in with the overall plan.
	Absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	Let's take another call here.
	Let's talk to Chris in Maryland.
	You're on the air with Gever Griffin.
	Infowars.com.
	Go ahead.
	Yeah, I had a question for you because I was talking to some fellows about this issue, but I did some reading on one of the websites, a lot like yours, where they had said that
	In the United States, down in the state of Alabama, they found a compound with trucks that had markings that looked a lot like they were Russian, and they were supposed to be drilling them to do civil disobedience and anti-rioting.
	No, no, let me explain.
	This is an old urban legend that's been around since the mid-90s.
	This is how they debunk us.
	The United States government and others and some private companies bought tons of cheap Eastern Bloc surplus.
	And I know people in Bastrop, you know, who collect them and they got a US one, a British one, a Russian one.
	And so people show that and say it's a Russian invasion, a bunch of 1970s rotting equipment.
	The real invasion is public deals signed to use Canadian, Mexican troops and others to quell civil disturbances.
	That's mainstream news, but nobody will ever focus on it.
	Toronto Star, Associated Press, um,
	Vigilant Guardian.
	The national level exercise going on now is with troops from 14 governments.
	That's Homeland Security site.
	But nobody will get into the real admitted stuff.
	Instead they talk about what they heard or what they saw.
	I appreciate your call.
	I'm not saying you're a bad caller.
	I'm just correcting that.
	Gever Griffin, your comments on that.
	Well, again, I'm stuck with saying what you said, Alex.
	It's certainly true.
	You get a lot of disinformation out there and, unfortunately, people will run with it because it has the grains of truth.
	But, no, you're absolutely right.
	The real threat is not from a bunch of old Russian trucks sitting in a lock for sale someplace.
	It's from the existing government and our treaties with other countries, Canada and Mexico in particular.
	Gee, we're out of time, God bless!
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