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Big Brother.
Mainstream media.
Government cover-ups.
You want answers?
Well, so does he.
He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
Welcome ladies and gentlemen, welcome.
The weekend is here this Friday, August 28th.
I am Jason Burmas sitting in for Alex Jones.
Alex coming up in the second, third, and fourth hours with Mark Siegel, Cindy Sheehan, Dr. Eisenstein, and John Perkins.
But boy, do I have a stacker of news to cover in this first hour.
Bill would give President emergency control of the Internet.
Now, we've covered the Cyber Security Act here.
We've covered the Cyber Bullying Act that was promoted by Miley Cyrus.
Now, this is the latest off of SENA and it's the lead story over at Drudge.
Internet companies and civil liberty groups were alarmed this spring.
When a US Senate bill proposed handing the White House the power to disconnect private sector computers from the Internet.
Now this is probably the Cyber Security Act that they're talking about.
It's weird because they don't really mention the bill.
I guess they don't want people to know that it's happening.
They don't want people to look at the nightmarish legislation being proposed by Senator Jay Rockefeller.
There's not much happier about the revised version that aides to Senator Jay Rockefeller, a West Virginia Democrat, have spent months drafting behind closed doors.
CNET News has obtained a copy of the 55-page draft
And they have a little excerpt there.
Now what is a cyber security emergency?
Perhaps it's an image of the president that goes viral that depicts him in a manner that is not flattering.
And even MSNBC wrote up an article, it just got up there, hey Flickr, why so censorious?
The jokerized image of President Barack Obama sat unmolested on Flickr for about two months before it was removed by the staff at a photo-sharing website.
A couple thousand viewer...
A couple thousand users viewed the image.
Obama's Time Magazine cover superimposed with the iconic Joker look from the Dark Knight, and many of them commented on it.
Sometimes it got heated.
Then the co-opted image was co-opted again.
The Time cover replaced with a single word, socialism, and anti-Obama posters that started popping up in Los Angeles.
Suddenly the original jokerized Time cover was gone from Flickr.
And so were the comments.
People noticed.
Media noticed too, but the media was jumping on it saying, oh, you're racist if you're doing this, this is a good thing.
This article is a three-pager and it's basically saying what's going on here, this Digital Millennium Copyright Act claim that you're talking about didn't come from Time Magazine, didn't come from the original artist, so where are you getting this stuff from and why are you censoring this image?
It's obviously not pornography.
It's obviously in the bounds of free speech.
It's not racist.
Look, it's not racist to paint somebody up as a famous DC character and now a movie character.
I mean, there wasn't a bigger film than The Dark Knight last year.
Okay, so when you paint the president up as a villain, you're basically making social commentary that he ain't a good guy, that he's the bad guy and the joke's on us.
Nothing to do with racism whatsoever.
Zero to do with racism.
But they want to paint us up as a bunch of white supremacists who hate everybody and, you know, we want to take over the government by any means necessary.
We want to shoot people.
We want to blow up buildings.
They want to associate us with domestic extremism and terrorism.
They want to tell people we will work with Al-Qaeda to bring this country down.
In the words of Glenn Beck, total scum.
In fact, I was watching Glenn Beck yesterday.
I was in the break room.
We tape a lot of news here, and I'm watching him, and he's got Michelle Malkin, that little devil woman on, and I don't remember who the other guy was, but he was an advisor for the Carter administration.
And they're all talking about, oh, how bad it is, and how bad the Democrats have gotten, and ACORN is bad, and they were bringing up AmeriCorps, but they don't want to tie it together that this is beyond left or right.
This isn't a socialist agenda coming out of the Democratic Party, no.
This is a globalist agenda being pushed by our banker overlords.
And that's why they're openly stating, oh, the FDIC might go under.
In fact, that's another top headline here.
They're talking about 400-plus banks that are going to go under with them.
We're going to get to that in a moment.
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It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
We are back folks, it's the Alex Jones Show.
I am Jason Burma sitting in.
And let's not forget that President Barack Obama has already stated that he has built
A cyber security office, a new intelligence service, okay?
Another bureaucracy.
Homeland security, not enough.
You know, the NSA wasn't enough before that.
The CIA, the FBI, all these other agencies, not enough.
We need a cyber security czar.
And they brought this word back into the language as though it's commonplace and we should be accepting it.
Folks, we shouldn't be accepting czars.
We have elected officials for a reason.
We like things like oversight.
We like to stop corruption and bring people up on charges when they do something wrong.
Czar is just like, I'm omnipresent, I have all the power, I do what I want.
And that's why they've created the Cybersecurity Office and the Cybersecurity Czar.
Let me read a little bit more of this article here.
The new version would allow the president to declare a cyber security emergency relating to non-governmental computer networks and do what's necessary to respond to a threat.
Other sections of the proposal include a federal certification program for cyber security professionals.
We're good to go.
I think the redraft, while improved, remains troubling due to its vagueness, said Larry Clinton, president of the Internet Security Alliance, which counts representatives of Verizon, VeriSign, Nortel, and Carnegie Mellon University on its board.
It is unclear what authority Senator Rockefeller thinks is necessary over the private sector.
Unless this is clarified, we cannot properly analyze, let alone support the bill.
No, you can properly analyze this bill.
It's garbage.
It's crap.
That's what this bill is about.
It's control.
It's about the elimination of free speech on the internet entirely.
It will allow them to shut down InfoWars.
It will allow them to shut down any article that they don't see fit.
If they don't like what Larry Flint is saying over at the Huffington Post and it's getting too much traction, nix it, okay?
They feel very, very threatened.
You know, I used the point yesterday of how Michael Moore had his trailer on from August 20th to the 26th and only received 30,000 views.
Well, I went to the Alexa ratings yesterday and MichaelMoore.com is like 44 or 45,000, okay?
Compare that to InfoWars.com.
We're below 4,000.
We are 11 times more popular than the most popular documentary filmmaker in the world.
What does that say?
That says that they have to start regulating us before we go completely supernova.
And that's what these bills are about.
Alright, let's shift the gears.
Let's get into this top 400 list.
This is a Wall Street Journal article, by the way.
Banks on sick list, top 400.
The banking industry continues to deteriorate while federal regulators are adding 111 lenders to their list of endangered banks in the latest quarter.
Even the economy shows signs of stabilizing.
That's a total lie.
They constantly are saying, oh, the economy's stabilizing, growth is starting to occur.
No, it's not, folks.
In fact, I've got another article here.
Whirlpool about to fire 1100 people, and that's nothing.
Whirlpool, just another company feeling the crunch.
They're out of here.
1100 more jobs out of here.
The post office is firing and buying out 30,000 of its employees.
Meanwhile, they are converting to a global currency for international shipping.
Say it with me.
They are converting to a global currency, the SDR unit.
Special Drawing Rights Unit.
This is the currency of the current incarnation of the New World Order.
This is what they're promoting.
This is what they're pushing.
Data released Thursday painted a gloomy picture of the state of banking.
The government fund that protects consumer deposits fell to its lowest level since 1993.
The continuing lows, which come despite trillions of dollars in government rescue financing and rebounding stock market, raise questions about how quickly the economy can revive.
Well, at least they're being honest about the trillions.
They're not going to tell you 24 trillion dollars, which we- 20- I think it was 23.7 two months ago in Bloomberg now?
Almost two months ago?
They're reporting 23.7?
Dog?
Trill?
23.7 trill they've gutted us for.
And all that's going to happen is all these smaller banks, the ones that are actually semi-honest, are going to be put out of business as they consolidate power and they just take it to the House.
Merrill Lynch ain't going under.
Let me tell you something.
Bank of America ain't going under.
Chase Manhattan ain't going under.
The CEOs are not facing hardships.
No, they're out on a beach somewhere laughing it up, patting each other on the back.
Another martini?
You bet!
You bet.
I mean they are drinking alcoholic fruity beverages while laughing at you as their bank account just goes through the roof.
The Federal Deposit Insurance Corp.
said it has 416 banks on its problem list at the end of June, equivalent to about 5% of the nation's bank, up from 305 at the end of March and 117 at the end of June 2008.
Problem banks had a combined $299.8 billion of assets at the end of June, compared to $78.3 billion a year ago.
Landing on the FDIC's problem list means a bank is at a high risk of insolvency.
State and federal regulators have already shot 81 banks this year.
And again, we reported it this week.
The second largest bank to go under was right here in Texas.
And they're just out of here.
Gone.
Done.
So you're just going to continue to see this again and again and again.
And I don't know if they're going to declare a bank holiday.
I don't know what happens if the FDIC goes under.
But I do know that they are moving towards a global system of currency.
And this SDR unit, which they've loaned out to Mexico now, it's what they loan out.
They're not loaning out dollars.
The dollar is dead.
It's over with.
It's done.
Get a grip.
Be an adult.
Admit it to yourself.
Admit you need a plan.
When Max Keiser, it must have been like four or five months ago, when he was using the toilet paper analogy, he was spot on.
And how are we going to communicate with one another as this happens if they shut down the internet?
Let's not forget either, because a lot of people still think that
You know, they don't surveil everything we do on the internet.
Look, it came out in Hefting vs. AT&T, over 40 officials blew the whistle, Mark Klein being one of them, that everything you do on your cell phone and on the internet is tracked, traced, and database by all the major companies, including AT&T, Verizon, Sprint, you name it.
Jason, how does that work?
It's very easy.
Everything goes through a line, a physical line.
Information goes over fiber optic cables, okay?
So they just split the fiber optic cable.
They send it into the secret room in a room full of servers.
Everything is copied verbatim.
It doesn't have any distinguishing what's allowed to be copied and what's not.
And then it runs through software like Carnivore and Promise.
Those are
Those are old, declassified pieces of software.
God knows what they're using today.
And they look for keywords, and key phrases, and patterns, and everything you do is being categorized.
And it's going to jump to another level as soon as Microsoft launches their Project Natal, where they literally put a face-scanning, voice-recognition camera in your home.
You are the controller.
It's hooked up to the Internet all the time, unless you unplug your Ethernet system, and most people won't be smart enough to do that.
And this thing can recognize up to four people at once.
Okay?
It recognizes your voice pattern.
You can shop online with this thing.
It's like the Jetsons.
You go on to Amazon.com.
It's looking at you as you're shopping through it.
Your hand is the remote control.
You can model clothes with this thing.
This is the next level, and we are being acclimated to it on another level.
We are being trained to think that's okay to have in your house.
Meanwhile, in the United Kingdom, they're saying that the worst of the worst, the worst parents are now going to have to be under 24-hour CCTV surveillance in their home.
In their home!
They're very own residents.
And if you don't think that that's coming to the United States, it is.
Everything that happens in the UK eventually gets here, and everything that happens here eventually gets to the UK.
We are the model.
Meanwhile, we love China's slave state.
We can't get enough of the way that they treat their workers, their one-child policies, and we move closer to that as they start to wear our blue jeans and slurp down our Coca-Cola.
It is this motion towards a global society, towards one world.
And that's what the elite continue to push.
Alright.
I've harped on the banks, I've harped on the economy, I've harped on the cyber security.
It's time to get into swine flu.
Now, if you've been listening this week, I've been ranting and raving how you can't get higher than level 6.
Well, apparently, the WHO is announcing in Spain that they are higher than level 6.
Weird, right?
I'm holding an article out of the Coastal News right now.
Hospitals gear up for flu epidemic.
And right here, this little excerpt.
As each medical facility puts its protocols into action, the health authority continues to keep its 24-hour hotline and the World Health Organization has raised its pandemic alert level to 6.2.
6.2?
Wait a minute.
You're not supposed to be above 6.
This is about fear-mongering.
This is about trying to get people even more overhyped about the situation.
Oh my god, 6.2.
It's like them raising the terror threat level right before the elections.
Remember?
We were big conspiracy theorists when they started raising the terror threat level in 2004, and we said, look, there's no more of a threat for terrorism than there was yesterday, or the week before, or the month before.
This is all politics.
This is about fear-mongering to the American public, because it didn't really matter that John Kerry won the election.
That's right, John Kerry won the 2004 election, folks.
I mean, count the ballots.
But then he bowed down the next day after they rigged it.
He didn't challenge it.
He didn't say, hey, I want to see my voice over in Ohio.
Hey, I want to see where they had Diebold systems.
He said, you know what?
My skull and bones brother's gonna make a great president for the next four years.
I love him.
My second cousin on one side, my eighth cousin on the other, George W. Bush.
Our savior.
And folks, just like when they tried to say, we're at orange, we're at red, oh my god, six was supposed to be the level that you couldn't go above.
Well now they're saying that's just not enough, we've gotta get to 6.2.
And I gotta go to the WHO website and see how far they're gonna ratchet this up.
I mean, will there be a seven?
Will there be an 8 shortly?
I mean, after they start rounding people up and forcibly vaccinating them and they have quarantine centers, are we going to be higher than 6.2?
And I've noticed there's no U.S.
media talking about this 6.2 event.
I hadn't seen it until today.
But apparently in Spain we're at 6.2 on the WHO level.
We're going to talk about that and this.
It's either a fake poll
Or they've really brainwashed a lot of people.
Two-thirds in the U.S.
plan to get swine flu vaccine.
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Alright, so this latest poll.
Two-thirds in the U.S.
plan to get swine flu vaccine instead of Reuters.
Now, I saw this and I thought to myself, that can't be true.
This has to be a rigged poll or their propaganda has gotten so sophisticated and over the top, they have convinced another 30 to 40% to take the shot.
Only, I don't know, one month, maybe six weeks ago, they ran a poll.
It was in Reuters.
The headline was less than 30%.
We're good to go.
Well, if two-thirds take it, then they might be right.
Then maybe 30 to 40 percent of the workforce won't be around.
Because you're injecting them with a live virus.
Okay?
You're injecting them with squalene, with mercury, with total hate and domination.
Let's read it.
I just can't buy it, folks.
I cannot buy that two-thirds of the people out there are getting ready to roll up their sleeves for this poison.
But I guess, you know, when you put out a massive propaganda campaign, when you offer people $50 stipends to take the shot, when you make churches and local schools, the vaccination centers, maybe they will get two-thirds of you idiots out there.
But if you, if you're listening to this program right now and you have not warned your family, you know, you got a niece or a nephew out there.
I got a four-year-old little niece.
She's just starting up pre-K.
This week, in fact, I talked to her, I think, two or three nights ago.
Adorable.
I love her to death.
And her father, my brother, very well aware of this stuff, and you know, he's still got to have a talk with the mother of the child and say, look, we're not giving our baby this shot.
Period.
Amen.
It's not happening.
There's no swine flu shot for my four year old niece.
Now, I've had that conversation.
The question is, have you had that conversation with your sister, your brother, your mother, your father?
Your friend.
You need to have that conversation with them.
And if you have to arm yourself with a little bit of knowledge, if you have to spend some time at a computer and print off all these mainline articles, if you have to go to PrisonPlanet.com and find this stuff, get the mainline source articles, okay?
That's why what we do here is so damn important.
Everything we report is reported by the mainstream.
Sure, it's on, you know, the 17th page of the newspaper, or it's hidden three-quarters of the way through the article,
But if you can read, and your brain still works on some level, you haven't succumbed to the mercury poisoning and the fluoride in the water, maybe you have a shot to stop this thing.
Maybe you have a shot to protect those that you love.
Okay?
So I just couldn't believe it.
Apparently we're at 6.2.
Apparently two-thirds of the people are going to take this vaccine.
I don't buy it.
I think there's more of a resistance out there.
We should remind people that in the beginning of August, the head of Merck vaccine unit retires early as
I don't
We're good to go.
I mean, he didn't blow the whistle on his brother's murderers.
And this one's out of The Guardian.
We'll cover it on the other side of the break.
How Nixon gave Ted Kennedy bodyguards to spy on his personal life.
And here's one of the quotes from our, you know, good friend over at the Bohemian Club, Richard Nixon.
I mean, he called those guys out, but he still went, folks.
Too damn bad if he gets shot!
That was the attitude of the president who wanted agents to dig into potential rivals' super swinger lifestyle.
There it is right there.
We'll get to it on the other side.
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We're going to go to Bob Chapman in just a moment.
But I want to finish up on this Nixon story.
Just the headline right here.
How Nixon gave Ted Kennedy bodyguards to spy on his personal life.
So you know, Ted Kennedy never stepped up to the plate.
Never said my brothers were murdered.
We need to get to the bottom of this.
Just kind of rode out a Senate career.
Tried to run for president at one point.
Nixon considered Ted Kennedy such a threat that he tried to catch him cheating on his wife.
Even ordering aides to plan Secret Service bodyguards to spy on the Senator's behavior.
And when he pulled Secret Service protocol, he said, I don't give a damn if he gets
Mr. Chapman, how are you this morning?
Well, fine, thank you.
And how are you?
I am good.
I want to get into this FDIC talking about their own bailout, just putting up a list of the top 400 banks that are toxic.
They seem these banks aren't going to be around much longer.
I mean, what is your take on this?
Well, my take has been for about two years ago,
I projected that out of 8,400 banks that approximately 40 to 50 percent would go under.
So that would be from about 3,200, 3,300, all the way up to over 4,000.
And now they're talking about 80 banks or 70, whatever it is.
And, you know, what they've been doing on the side is absorbing smaller banks, particularly little, little ones.
Uh, into, uh, the big banking system, and they're not telling anybody about it.
So, you know, the XYZ Bank in Littletown, America, uh, had a sign change last week to, uh, ABC Bank of New York or something.
And, uh, people say, well, you know, as long as my money's safe, I don't care.
Uh, one of the things, uh, uh, that is to go along with that is that they, the FDIC don't have any, doesn't have any money.
It's interesting the way they get their money.
They get it from the banks.
The banks pay it into the general fund.
And then as the FDIC uses it, they request funds from the general fund, which are matted out to them.
Medicare and Medicaid and Social Security do the same thing.
But anyway, they probably get about $10 billion, but they
Have committed themselves on unsecured, unsecured loans of $368 billion.
And when Sheila Bair was asked about it, she kind of forgot the answer.
There was, there was, I saw her on, I don't know, was ABC or, it's in the next issue, incidentally, tomorrow.
It's a link.
And she, she didn't answer that.
But she kind of frowned when the question was asked.
But she's pretty honest, and she doesn't seem to be too political, and she's very bright.
The bottom line is this.
About three months ago, she informally asked the Treasury Department to talk to Congress about getting her $500 billion.
To put that into perspective, 70-75% of all the deposits are held by four banks.
Most people don't know that.
Secondly, the same banks that hold these deposits are essentially bankrupt.
Now, to cover 1% of all of the money under $250,000 in the accounts of all the banks,
They would need $700 billion.
So, as you can see, there's virtually no coverage for FDIC.
They don't have the money.
And even if they got $700 billion, they would only have enough money to cover the 1% of people who have deposits, besides bailing the banks out.
So what happens here?
I mean, you just talked about how the four banks have 75% of this debt.
Now these are the big banks.
These banks aren't going to go under.
Most people don't realize that.
They're going to swallow up these small banks.
But what happens?
I mean, this is obviously a consolidation of power.
We're obviously seeing the big banks gaining more and more power as the small banks go under.
But what happens if the FDIC fails?
Nobody gets anything.
It's just done.
It's beyond a bank holiday is what you're telling me.
That's correct.
I don't think it's imminent now, but it'll happen sometime in the next few years.
And in when?
Probably two to two and a half years from now.
When inflation, hyperinflation, craps out and deflation takes over and the insiders decide that now's the time to pull a plug on everybody.
And that's why I was just going to say it's so important you don't have more than three months operating expenses in the bank.
You get five grand at home in your safe and small bills.
You get rid of all of your investments in the stock market except gold and silver shares.
You get out of your bonds.
You get out of your cash values and insurance policies.
Why do you think they're announcing this though?
I mean obviously that's the way to protect yourself is to get gold and silver and Midas Resources is a great way to do this but why are they trying to soften the public up right now to warm them up to the idea that the FDIC is over?
What is this?
Why are they admitting that essentially the FDIC has no money as of today?
Well, they're admitting it because they have to admit it under the law.
And it's the same thing with the Federal Reserve.
I saw Bonnie Frank at a town hall type of meeting.
I think it was in Taunton, Massachusetts, and it's part of his constituency.
And Frank might be a lot of things, but he's not stupid.
He said at the very end of the conversation, because somebody asked about 1207, the bill to investigate and audit the Fed Reserve.
He says it will be passed next month.
Really?
He actually admitted that this bill is going to go through the Senate.
That's interesting, because I don't know if you saw the clip of Geithner being asked about 1207 and auditing the Fed, but he just parrots the same exact talking points that Bernanke parrots, that this can't be political, and that the Fed is already transparent, and it has oversight by Congress.
But then, if there's so much oversight by Congress, how did this bill, 1207, push through Congress so quickly?
Because the... I think it's the...
I can't forget who does the oversight, but I saw the woman who does it and she didn't know anything about anything.
She was interrogated in the house and it was really pathetic.
So basically they relegate that to just one or two constituents.
It's not truly the Congress that has oversight.
It's one person that they've appointed in the Congress who supposedly has oversight.
Yeah, but I think it's the Comptroller General's office or something like that.
But anyway, the point is this.
I think they're going to try to change the bill so it's not as onerous.
And we'll see.
But we're going to get action.
And it could be a major turning point for us and the exposure of what people are doing within the Fed and the connections.
And we'll get to it all.
And this is the most important thing that the Fed, that the elitists have, and it's the Fed Reserve.
And in any way that we can block them from doing what they're doing and take power away from them, it gives us a better chance of overcoming the problems we've got.
We've got to stop them from telling the banks, lend as much money as you want, not 8 to 10 times, 50 times!
And they did!
And that's why we got the problem, and the other ones are supposed to be solving when they cause it in the first place, and we get to pay for it, $23.7 trillion.
And that was last month's number.
Do you foresee some kind of a similar bailout for the FDIC somewhere, where they announce that we are going to loan the FDIC, you know, $700 billion or a trillion dollars, and then that money will again multiply beyond what we can even comprehend?
Is that what's going to happen with this?
Absolutely, without a doubt.
Well, what do you think that they're going to announce?
Are they going to say, well, we're going to give them such and such money, and then just allow them to print carte blanche as much cash as possible?
Where do you see this going?
I mean, is this going to be in the House?
Is this going to be an emergency a week from now?
I think it has to.
It has to go to Congress, and Congress will okay it.
It's just like if they want to have a second program for stimulus.
And they want a trillion or two trillion or whatever they want.
Congress will pass it.
It's unbelievable to me.
It's better than having a depression.
They just don't want to have to face the music like everybody behind the scenes.
All the bureaucrats from the revolving door out of Wall Street to Washington.
Do you imagine that they're going to, you know, pull something similar to the way that they did last year, where they just say, look, it's over, and then all of a sudden, you know, if you don't pass this, guys, martial law is going to happen in the United States.
Are they going to be threatening congressmen again?
I mean, are we at that level?
I don't think they'll have to.
I think they'll pass it anyway.
And if they don't, or if they're not going to, then they will take out the sharp knives and say, look, everybody in your constituency is going to be unemployed because
The real unemployment, whisper whisper, behind the scenes is 20.8% right now.
Let's say it was right now.
And your constituency is going to be around 32 to 35% in about six months.
Now do you want to pass this thing or don't you?
Well let's talk about that.
What is the unemployment rate?
Because we're seeing in mainstream reports it's somewhere around 10 or 11%, but that has got to be a local number.
9.4.
9.4.
Look, this is the way it works.
They produce
The short term unemployment is 9.4%.
The long, long term from 1990 is U3.
And I won't even go into that.
But U6, they quote, occasionally, and it's an official government figure, it's 16.8%.
Unemployment, including short term unemployment, people no longer getting checks from the state, people who are discouraged
And people who are working part-time, and a lot of people working part-time because the average workweek is 33.1%.
You put them all into U6 plus the birth-death ratio.
Now, if you extract the birth-death ratio, which is, the government says, we can't get to all the small and medium-sized companies, so we're going to guess at it.
Well, every time they guess, with the exception of a couple of times in the last five years, six years,
They have found an average of 185,000 new jobs per month, which they made out of thin air, which is nothing but a lie.
So if you extract that from the 16.8, you get 20.8%.
Unbelievable.
And I'm not the only one that does these figures.
John Williams does them as well, and John's better at it than I am, and John came out with 20.9.
So we'll use John's figures.
Well, it seems like they're so similar.
Why don't you tell people how they can get your information, Mr. Chapman?
Well, they can go to TheInternationalForecaster.com.
That's TheInternationalForecaster.com.
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I kind of want to jump subject matter right now.
I have this article that I haven't been able to cover.
University tackles a new world order.
Okay, and in the first paragraph it says, a new world political and social order, an environmentally sustainable planet, world peace, and a new internet system to replace the one that's creaking under the weight of mass multimedia.
These are the core aims of the University of Essex's new research strategy.
Now I just released my trailer for Invisible Empire, a new world order to find this week, and there are still people out there that don't believe a new world order either exists or is coming into being, but yet there are mainline articles like this one
And everything I just read off there is something we've been talking about here at Infowars and something you've been talking about for decades.
I mean, when you talk about a new world political and social order, an environmentally sustainable, their buzzword, planet, a world peace, yeah, okay, and a new internet system,
To replace the one that's creaking under the weight of all this multimedia.
We've been telling you about Internet 2 for years.
What does that tell you?
Does that tell you that we are accelerating at a pace never before seen towards this globalist new world order when they're just printing it in mainline articles, having workshops at the University of Essex and other universities?
They're telling you that it's time for them to move, because they want to set a public perception that this is absolutely necessary, and we better go do this, among other things.
And they want to create the image that this Internet is creaking.
I mean, it's only, what, 20 years old?
Yeah, about 20 years old.
Let me think.
And it's not creaking under anything.
They just want to get control of it.
They want to form a new network so they can bypass us.
In the new network, there won't be any Alex Jones or Jason or Bob or anybody else.
I think that you're spot on with that and again the headline out of the Drudge Report right now that goes to CNET is about the Cyber Security Act and the latest provisions on the bill.
They have a 55 page draft and of course not only the Cyber Security Act but the Cyber Bullying Act where if you insult somebody, you call somebody fat on the internet, you might be in trouble.
Well, they're doing the same thing in Canada as well.
I'm running a piece onto Canada.
I came from the Globe and Mail, and they're into this hate speech, which is what you're talking about, because if I called you fat, Jason, well, that's hate speech.
And if you call me fat, to me, Bob, it's true.
But anyway, no, not quite.
But the point is, I just thought I'd make a joke.
The point is, not only can they put you in jail,
But they're going to confiscate your assets!
And that's really the underlying notion of the article from the Globe and Mail.
And so, if you get a chance, you're getting my publication, go on to Canada or look for that link and take a look at it.
It's ominous and it's happening all over the world.
It's just not England, the United States and Canada, it's happening elsewhere as well.
And they're building the infrastructure right now in this country with Obama, you know, just coming out and saying we're going to have a new cyber security office and we're going to have a cyber security czar.
Did you ever think that we would see the day in the United States where we had czars again?
No, and it's something that is being used to bypass law, bypass Congress.
And so that the executive branch will have its own little kingdom.
And we can hark back to Elizabeth I, Elizabeth II we have now, and the evolution of dictatorial government.
It is the evolution of dictatorial government, and as you said, the national security apparatus that is building this infrastructure is just completely unbelievable.
They will invoke their executive powers and just say, look, we're beyond the law, we're beyond checks and balances, we decide what we want to do.
And you know that's why I make it a point to let people know everything you do on your cell phone and on the internet right now if you're with a major provider and everybody listening right now is with a major provider is tracked, traced, and database.
They have the secret room.
It went to court.
They threw it out of court.
From Bush's retroactive immunity.
Then it went to appeals court.
They threw it out of appeals court last June.
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You know, we were just talking about, you know, cyber security, the cyber security czar, the new office.
But in reality, just like I said, Bob, they're already track tracing and databasing everything we're doing.
They've set up an infrastructure where, you know, Homeland Security, local police forces all believe that, you know, extremists with Ron Paul bumper stickers and don't tread on me flags are the next terrorists.
I mean, where is our society headed?
Totalitarianism.
And it's already there.
It's not headed, it is in it already.
And that's part of the game that we're watching here.
I mean, essentially, are we lying to ourselves if we think anything less?
I mean, I just read an article yesterday, you know, all about the truth about lying and what a morally degradated culture we are.
And this is in Newsweek, how we tell lies, you know, three out of every ten things we say is just a complete and total lie.
And then we lie to ourselves about how serious situations are.
And we've been lying to ourselves about this economy for years and years and years now as they pull the rug from under us.
I mean, are we going to wake up
And, you know, become free citizens again?
Or are we just going to grovel under this new dictatorship?
Well, I think that we've made great headway with the American public, particularly over the last couple of years, because of programs like this and a handful of newsletters that get out there and get massive circulation, like mine.
And the public's coming around.
You can see it in the town hall meetings.
And it's encouraging.
I don't know.
uh... to be able to uh... stop the juggernaut which is uh... uh... the federal reserve and the revolving door from wall street to new york city and so on and so forth uh... to washington dc and so on and so forth and remember you can't even go outside of the federal reserve and film without having security come up to you ask you a million questions want your identification the last time i was there and i was filming outside oh we just had that shooting up in dc uh... couple weeks ago and i'm thinking to myself
How are you comparing me and what I'm doing with a tripod and a camera on a sidewalk to a madman who walked into a Holocaust museum and started shooting people with a gun?
I mean, did he have a camcorder?
It's complete ridiculousness.
And then they want every little piece of information and they threaten you.
I mean, these banksters are truly in control, they are truly above government, and they don't want 1207 to pass.
Like you said, if 1207 does pass through the Senate, they want that bill revised in such a manner, it really cripples what it was intended to do.
Well, you're probably absolutely right.
And we have to see if we can stop that.
And you do that by going to all the members of the House and the Senate, and you tell them, the bill's coming up next month,
It's going to be voted on, it will be passed, but we want it passed in the language that it's been set up in, not some character of a carcass of the original bill.
Bob Chapman of TheInternationalForecaster.com, thank you so much for joining us.
Thank you, and I'll see you next week.
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Mark in Oregon.
You're on the air with Bob Chapman.
Go ahead, Mark.
Hi.
Go ahead.
Hi, Alex and Bob.
How y'all doing today?
Um, Alex, a
Massive poster campaign on the vaccination deception is certainly in order, no doubt.
Not just in the United States, but throughout the world.
Now additionally, forming groups of organized and public protest and public exposure that will force the mass media of this country and the world to report on the deadly ingredients of the upcoming global vaccinations
I think would also be powerful as well as an expedited production and release of a video by yourself, perhaps titled The Vaccination Deception.
Alright, let me be clear.
Let me be clear.
That's a great idea, The Vaccination Deception.
I've interviewed Tenpenny and others.
There is a section in the new film about the vaccine.
It's just it's coming out right in October, and they may back off by then.
So I need to make it just about how they use overall vaccine systems.
But going back to Bob Chapman, Bob, is it just the idea of lots of posters lets people get the idea that other people are upset?
It's harder to go form groups.
Out of this, you can form groups.
That's correct.
And also you have existing groups.
That you would introduce these, you know, posters to and say, look, if you're going to do this, you got to do that, too, because they're going to disagree with the vaccination process.
So you would get a hold of those groups and introduce them to posters and say, put them up everywhere.
I've done that before.
Of course, I'm a little old for it now, but during political campaigns, you know, we'd go out from 10 o'clock at night to 6 o'clock in the morning and put posters everywhere.
Yeah, there's nothing more American, nothing more pro-liberty, and the fact the government's trying to demonize it is outrageous.
San Francisco won first place, the guys that did lower Manhattan, you won second place, and I'm watching all these other videos, I think I know who third place is, I'll announce it on Monday, or during the weekend they'll be posted up on the site.
We're launching a new contest, it'll be up by tonight or tomorrow, to expose the flu.
Okay, to expose the shots.
I've just got to get all that written up and done as well.
Speaking of the posters, let's go to Jeff in South Dakota.
Jeff, quickly, what happened to you?
Yes, Alex and Bob.
I was in Broken Bow, Nebraska, which is where my wife is also a nurse.
I went down to the local gun show.
I was going to take a picture of this huge Obama poster that the local IT slash, you know, all-in-one store guy had up there at the gun show.
The thing must have been 8x10.
In the meantime, I'm putting up my own posters and stuff outside of the Obama.
Joker poster and stuff.
And as soon as I went back in to do stuff, I noticed my posters and stuff would get ripped down.
I noticed a couple gentlemen outside.
One looked like a farmer, another one looked just like a cowboy.
And it turned out to be the promoters.
They, in the meantime, went inside, made Jim take down his big poster, which I wanted to get for you, Alex.
This would have been huge.
I mean, nice poster for you.
I came back, I said, well, what was up?
Why are you taking this stuff down?
They said, well, we're afraid to be political because the mayor of the town here in Brooklyn, Nebraska might kick us out of the municipal building.
And exactly, that's how this tyranny works.
First, they tell churches they can't.
Now they're telling everybody, in fact, that's what the local paper in Austin, in Hays County says.
We can't allow any of this.
It's un-American.
And soon, that's the point.
No one has any free speech.
Bob Chapman, this is exactly what we're talking about.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
And what you do is you tell a man to take a hike.
So, so... No, that's what I was saying, and what really made it, man, I said, well, okay, I said, then, well, your ancestors must have been poories or something.
I said, you know, maybe they were fighting on the wrong side of the, uh, revolution, and they started getting in my face.
Obviously, my hands are full of stuff.
They just literally pushed and shoved me out the door.
You know, these are supposed to be supposed right-wing conservative people.
I said, well, you know better.
They're cowards!
They literally worship licking boots and we better not let anybody put posters up.
They might come get us in America!
They might as well live in Romania in 1965.
They might as well live in Ukraine in 1935.
I mean, these people want to be raped.
They want to be enslaved.
It's disgusting.
Keep it up, Jeff.
Get the posters out all over the town.
Don't stop.
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Okay, bye-bye.
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He's done some research, and when you start rationing healthcare, and it looks as if that couldn't happen, I mean, if you've got 50 million more people in the system, and a certain number of doctors, people are gonna be in line, and you're gonna have to determine who gets the next treatment, is, unfairly, the elderly are the ones who are gonna get shortchanged.
That's so true.
I mean, in a way, it's a form of eugenics.
And that's why we've got him on with us.
I continually hear him point out how they want to put troops on the streets, have the inoculations, martial law.
Now Ron Paul is talking about it.
Former Congressman Dick Armey saying they may use this as a pretext to get their healthcare ram through this flu hype that they've got going.
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Good to see you.
How are you doing?
Nice to be on.
Good, good.
Give us your take on Obamacare.
I mean, I've gone over the sections.
All that bad stuff is in there, or it points at boards that we know do carry out all this rationing.
We know what happens in Canada and England and Germany.
That's on record.
You can watch the House of Commons on C-SPAN and see them admitting it.
I mean, as a doctor, give us your snapshot of this program, where you see it going, and why you're saying it borders on eugenics.
Well, I think that the big issue here is that it starts in the wrong place.
I'm getting more and more disturbed about it now that we're seeing these religious references and everyone that doesn't agree with President Obama is somehow bearing false witness.
I mean, how awful is that?
I think that the whole discussion is misguided.
First of all,
Anybody understands in the United States that if we're going to change something, we need a debate.
So it's very suspicious that if you disagree with the president and the administration, somehow you're wrong.
I mean, where's the debate then?
There's got to be something to discuss.
And what about practicing physicians who are in the trenches every day with patients?
I don't know.
Well, they're admitting, doctor, they can't even read the 1,300-page bill.
Conyers admits that.
I mean, how can they implement something if they can't even read what was written by special interest A, and then B, going back and backing you up?
We have them all over the news now as a mantra saying, you can't even call it socialism, or you're a racist, using the N-word.
They are weaponizing politics, terrorizing the public,
And invoking racism.
They're actually the ones using race.
They're the ones that are engaging in racism.
Race pimping!
Well, I mean, really, I think that we have to get back to basics here.
You know, what are the basics?
The basics are, whether they like it or not, healthcare and health insurance are not the same thing.
Americans understand that.
That's one of the reasons we're having the problem we're having.
Americans understand that.
They own an automobile, and they know if they bring their automobile in with a scratch, their rates are going to go up.
And if they try to bring their automobile in with a scratch too much, they're going to find out there are no repair shops around taking their insurance.
That's something we've lost sight of with health insurance.
Health insurance is the problem, it's not the solution.
And government-run health insurance is absolutely the worst.
So it's completely disingenuous to have this discussion without looking at what real
Health needs, healthcare needs are.
And one thing is, and this is where I get very upset, there's a great shortage of physicians in the United States.
There's an estimated 40,000 primary care physicians we're going to be lacking in the next 10 years, and you can probably triple that given the fact that we have 78 million baby boomers coming in.
Then let's piss off physicians more?
Let's cut them?
Oh, don't worry!
We're not cutting benefits to patients.
We're only cutting benefits
I don't know.
And he can't even afford, and he can't even, I mean, my dad's a physician, he can't even then afford the medical malpractice insurance.
People aren't living in the real world that don't live and work as a physician like you do.
And I think you point out the whole debates of fraud.
Back before we had medical insurance, we even had, you know, better access to health care.
It becomes just this bigger and bigger fraud, this bigger and bigger scam, where the expenses of the bureaucracies go up, and the media is saying it's the doctors getting the money.
I see the statistics.
Doctors in the last 20 years in many cases are making half of what they were.
We're good to go.
Or they game the system.
Now, do patients want that?
Do you want to be gamed?
Do you want your doctor to drop out?
Let's deal with a real myth.
That you're going to get to keep the doctor you got now till he quits!
You know?
Great, great, great quote.
Get to keep the doctor you have now.
So, you know, physicians are being completely ignored in this whole discussion.
And a few of us have loud voices.
But clearly, the debate... Would you have a debate about who's operating your train without talking about the conductor?
Would you say, let's pad the seats, let's get new dining cars?
By the way, the engineer's quitting!
Who's driving the train?
That's like the government says they're going to put screen doors on submarines without consulting the engineer who designed the submarine.
It's totally the case.
And I don't want your listeners to think, by the way, that I only care about doctors, but there's a trickle-down effect here.
Because everybody knows that when you go to the doctor's office, you're not meeting President Obama, you're meeting your physician.
And by the way, one more thing that I don't think I've ever said before, I want to make a really important point here.
You know, doctors are not the same doctors that we were dealing with in 1964 when Medicare came down the pike.
Those doctors were definitely living high on the hog, and there was a lot of fat on the bone.
Now, I don't happen to think the fat was chipped off the bone in the right way.
I don't think HMOs work very well, and I know that the government insurance does it, but the doctors we have now are very close to the bone.
They have very, very high overhead.
They're working their butts off.
They're seeing 40 patients a day.
What, do you want to see 60?
I mean, let's flood their offices with millions of more patients and pay them less and hospitals we're going to cut!
Well, I've seen it with nurses.
That's why they've got such a shortage there.
I mean, it's a hellish job, because they are overworking everybody, and they use a few specialists on TV to demonize the profession.
In the five minutes we've got left, I want to plug your website.
It's drsiegel.com.
That's drsiegel.com.
I wanted to specifically get into eugenics, though.
You said it's almost like eugenics.
Well, the bioethicist boards have a lot of eugenicist ideas in them.
Europe, as you know, they've said, if you're old, you don't deserve the same care as a young person.
We know that Daschle's book said, if you're old, you don't deserve the care.
So, can you elaborate as a well-known, prominent physician, why you use the word eugenics?
Because we're trained in medical school not to make any difference between one patient and another.
I've talked about that endlessly and thought about that.
I don't treat overweight people differently than skinny people, except that I might focus on being overweight as a problem.
I don't say, this patient has no money, I'm going to treat them less.
I don't say this person's rich, I'm going to treat them better.
My patients wouldn't have it any other way.
So where's the government coming along saying, you know, things like Ezekiel Emanuel has written about life years?
Too many life years?
I mean, what is that all about?
Why don't elderly deserve the same care as young people?
A patient is a patient is a patient.
That's the only way doctors can practice, and it's the only way healthcare can be delivered, and it's what the United States wants.
And they're phrasing it in the media and the government like it's good, like you want the government taking tests away.
You want the government giving you an aspirin for a heart attack, like Cuba.
I mean, this is crazy.
I think the biggest issue with the government, by the way, is that they don't have the qualifications.
And never mind that they do such a great job with the IRS and with the Post Office, but they're just learning their talking points now.
I mean, they go into seminars and tutorials on healthcare.
I mean, that's the thing that's most disturbing here of all.
I watch politics with a jaundiced eye to begin with, but where do these guys get off thinking they can be healthcare experts?
That's the biggest bearing of false witness here.
I mean, where did this guy get an MD from?
I've been in this for two decades already, and I'm not just a practicing physician.
As you know, I'm writing about this.
I've been writing about health policy for ten years.
I've studied this very carefully.
There's too many people in this, dealing with this, ramming this down our throats, who are not qualified to be looking at health care and health reform.
But they are qualified to steal 20% of the country's economy that's not under government control so they can give it to their fat cat buddies is now coming out.
In closing, the flu.
I've seen no U.S.
media.
I'd love for you to break this nationally.
You've got the power to do it.
The Sunday Mail, the London Telegraph, German News Reports, Swine Flu, Jablink, the killer nerve disease.
Leaked letter reveals concern of neurologist over 25 deaths in America in the test alone of the vaccine by Gillian Bernays and other deaths of neurological... It's switching on some autoimmune response, massive brain swelling.
Doctor, your comments on this and the news saying three shots could mutate in the body.
Well, look, look, I think it's a mild virus.
I think that, as you hinted before I came on, we don't know how it's going to be hyped yet.
We don't know what the administration's going to do to hype it.
I think it's a mild virus, but I do think it's made its way around the world, and I think we have to pay particular attention to it.
I don't think we can ignore it, but the hysteria is totally ridiculous.
I think we need a vaccine to it, but the vaccine is problematic, because in 1976, we had what we thought was a swine flu epidemic, which was completely fabricated, it turned out, and we ended up with close to a thousand cases of ascending paralysis as a result.
That could happen again, but I don't want to use fear of the vaccine to replace fear of the virus.
I don't like fear in general.
I've written books on this.
I'm aware of it.
I'm aware of it, but I don't know to the extent to which it's a problem versus 76.
It remains to be seen how significant a side effect this is.
Before I go and tell people, be afraid of this vaccine, I want to see more about what a risk this really is.
Exactly, but they're keeping it secret, so shouldn't that be public?
Shouldn't there be a big debate about this?
There should be a big debate about this, but I'm telling you right now, I'm always on the side of the facts, and I want to close by saying, I think the vaccine is going to be safe.
DrSiegel.com.
Doc, thanks for talking to us.
Anytime.
Oh, my pleasure.
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I mean, how could that last doctor, who's a nice guy and speaks out more than most against the system, calling it eugenics, say, yeah, I know it's killing some people,
But, you know, we've got to see if this is, I forget his exact quote, you know, an acceptable level of side effects.
Because, you know, that's what they do, they triage.
They say, well, if this vaccine saves 10,000 people, but it kills 1,000, you know, it's okay.
That's kind of the medical idea.
I'm not saying Siegel's saying that, but it's in the same general idea and area.
They know it doesn't protect you from the flu.
They know it's already mutated.
You know their history of adding stuff to it.
You've got to admit what this medical system's doing, hyping this flu that's killed almost nobody up like it's the end of the world.
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But I wanted to get Cindy Sheehan on.
We appreciate her popping in to give us a report on what's happening.
Martha's Vineyard.
One of the favorite hangouts of the Clintons and Walter Cronkite and kind of the eastern establishment of the Eugenicist clan.
And Cindy Sheehan, who lost her son, of course, in Iraq, became a national icon standing up to Bush at the Crawford Ranch.
Now, Obama's in the news saying, please give my family privacy.
Oh, but his spy satellites and NSA phone tapping and his Blackwater thugs, they're not giving us any rest.
And so, there's hardly any mainstream media, at least I searched it this morning, I saw some, about Cindy Sheehan.
With all these other great peace activists,
Because again, it was trending and fun to protest Bush knowing he wouldn't end the war for the establishment.
But now that they're in power, like Rahm Emanuel said, he campaigned against Democrats and ran the Democratic Party operation against Democrats that were actually against war.
And the corporate guys try to throw Dennis Kucinich out because he's actually a real liberal and against war.
And a real progressive.
So, Sidney Sheehan is out there shattering the left-right paradigm.
We've been publishing at Infowars.com and PresidentPanda.com the articles and reports he's been putting out.
They've got YouTube videos up.
Get her information out viral and ask the media, why aren't you covering this?
More troops are dying under Obama than under Bush.
He's expanding the wars.
All his top generals say 10 to 15 years before they leave.
They rewrote the maps of the U.S.
bases so they weren't part of the cities to claim they left the cities.
Corporate lawyer semantical games.
Cindy Sheehan from Martha's Vineyard, site of Lord Obama vacationing.
Cindy, good to have you here with us.
Hi Alex, thank you so much for helping to promote this protest and promote the fact that, like you said, even though there's a change in regime, the only change in policy has been for the worst.
And we just really need to reclaim our integrity and our morality in the anti-war movement.
To say that, the wars, we were right to say the wars were wrong under Bush.
And we're still right to say they're still wrong under Obama.
To me, it's a lack of media coverage, but it's also a lack of any kind of cooperation or solidarity that I've not received from the establishment.
Well, that's because the Ford Foundation, as you know, and these other big money groups run and control the fake left.
It's just, I mean, where is Amy Goodman?
Where are all these groups?
Continue, please, Cindy Sheehan, tell us what's happening out there, how many people are out there, where you're located so other people can come join you, how long you're going to be there, what the Secret Service is doing.
All I can say for the moment is that to get a list of events, they can go to my blog or to your website, and it's at Cindy Sheehan, soapboxblogspot.com.
The first event that we're going to have that's organized will be a corporate media conference tomorrow at 11, so we'll see how much coverage we get protesting Obama.
But another thing is that we're going to be writing
We're good to go.
From you and from your listeners on this People's Declaration of Peace that we'll be writing.
I'm staying just right around the corner from Obama, so I'm hoping to bump into him if he ventures out of his compound.
Now, again, for people geographically, tell folks where Martha's Vineyard is, where the press conference is.
A lot of people aren't online or... I mean, how do people come out to this?
Do we call the media?
Challenge them to be there?
What do we do?
Well, absolutely.
You know the media's already there because Obama's there.
So what we have to do is you can call the media station at Oak Bluff Elementary School.
That's where the press conference is going to be tomorrow at 11.
We're having a large anti-war rally on Saturday if people who are in Massachusetts or around this area can get to Martha's Vineyard.
We will have a large vigil, rally, teach-in against the war.
The island's fairly small and we're going to blanket the island.
We have support from people on Martha's Vineyard who have offered us housing, offered us places to hang our banners, places to put signs, places to do our vigils.
So we're going to be all over that island because we don't want Obama or the press or the anti-war movement
I do not know that we're there still protesting the wars like we were when Bush was president.
What response are you starting to get?
I mean, I do see you getting more attention than you were a few months ago.
What are some of the positive responses you're getting from the anti-war community, or just the sanity community?
And what responses are you getting that are negative?
Well, it's interesting that the negative responses I'm getting are from people who were, I think,
Yeah, they're getting a long rest now.
Yes, exactly.
Exactly.
So why does he deserve a people vacation?
The world deserves a vacation from war and a vacation from body bags.
It doesn't stop there.
And by the way, Cindy, we know what this war is about.
I mean, I saw Admiral Mullen on CNN two nights ago making up stuff about why the opium has gone over 12 times what it was, I mean, since the liberation.
And then BBC admits, oh, we guard the opium so the warlords don't get it.
And then suddenly, heroin is all over the streets.
They're there, just like the Russians were there, to get that smack.
Right.
Well, and then also, there's the whole pipeline
That's what they're always for.
So that's what we're doing.
We're getting a lot of excitement.
I'm getting mostly support, which is very gratifying to me.
And thank you for your support and letting your listeners and your
Well, I mean, where are you, Bivouac?
How do folks physically get in a car right now, get over there?
How long are you going to be there again?
There's phone numbers that people can call to find out where we're going to be exactly.
If people can get over, there's emails.
People can email me directly.
Cindy at CindyC.HanselFox.com.
If you tell us, it's not like Crawford where we had a camp.
We're going to be all over that island every day.
Well, Cindy, this is very exciting and I'd like to get some updates from you again throughout the week here and maybe on Sunday on the Sunday Show when it's all over, kind of a recapping final event for people out there driving along in their cars or listening on shortwave or whatever or on satellite.
Slowly give out the website address again.
Okay.
Cindy Sheehan Soapbox.blogspot.com.
There's a
Cindy, let me ask you a question in closing.
Are you getting
Any media coming to you?
Before they were mobbing you, you were having to hide in a trailer giving interviews 15 hours a day.
Right.
Now what's happening?
There seems to be some interest.
I talked to some corporate media newspapers today.
So it's not like it was when I was in Crawford, that's for sure.
So I find that very interesting.
Well, I mean, number one, it's a great story.
Cindy Sheehan now back.
You know, this has been going on for seven years.
Here's Cindy Sheehan, you know, five years into this.
Now she's back.
It's still happening under Obama.
That's a big story.
I've been trying to be low-key until our press event tomorrow.
So, after the press event tomorrow, we'll see what happens.
Okay, we'll check in with you again.
Cindy Sheehan, thank you.
Okay, great, Alex.
Thank you.
Thank you so much.
And again, we'll definitely at least check in with her Sunday in the aftermath of all of this.
The media should be knocking her door down, but no.
It's so trendy and fun to have Obama trying to start wars with the Russians and putting more troops into Afghanistan and wanting to go into Pakistan and Predator drones and 100,000 plus troops still in Iraq and never leaving.
I mean, it's an insult to my intelligence.
It's an insult to your intelligence to have
The media and the Iraqi government, under orders of the globalists, redraw their city maps where the Green Zone and other bases aren't part of the cities now.
And then say, our troops have pulled out.
I mean, this is a very cynical, cynical joke.
And they did pull back in one respect.
They pulled out the two-year-old surge.
Took troops out of the fortresses and put them in machine gun nests and checkpoints, kind of like community policing.
And now they've pulled those out.
So, it's amazing.
It's kind of like cutting somebody's leg off and saying, oh, but I'm trying to fix it and giving them a band-aid.
I mean, it's too little too late.
It's a joke.
It's cosmetic.
It's a corporate front.
I want to keep going to your phone calls where Dr. Eisenstein joins us.
I also want to get into Bernanke being nominated for another term as Private Federal Reserve Chairman.
The rest of the board's appointed by them, but he's the little front man.
Geithner's the former head of the New York Fed.
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I wanted to tell folks that up on PrisonPlanet.com and InfoWars.com, we have the first detailed write-up of my new film that is nearing completion.
That is, we've got two hours laid out, and I'm trying to put this in, take that out, add this document, add that clip, working on a few final voiceovers, and I'll polish it in the next three, four weeks, and it'll go to be mass-manufactured, pre-orders start
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We're trying to even make the DVD earlier and then hold it so we can ship it out even faster, but the pre-orders will start coming up in about three, four weeks, and I guess about three and a half weeks, and I wanted to go ahead and play the trailer to the new
Film.
So, here is trailer one for Fall of the Republic.
And I want to say great job to the music guys here.
We've used Graham Reynolds in the past, and I've also bought Royalty Free Music in the past, and Rob Jacobson's made music in the past.
This time we've been using Derek Einkauf and Will and a few others here.
They've obviously done a fabulous job.
This is a quick mix.
This is kind of a raw trailer, because I realize I've been so focused on the film,
That I wasn't even focused on trailers to promote it.
So we've got even more powerful trailers coming out in the next few weeks.
But this is a great trailer Rob Jacobson put together.
And it says the following film preview is rated vital to the Republic and necessary for all audiences in defense of liberty.
It's rated V for viral transmission in the Info War.
Spread this film everywhere through viral transmission to keep and preserve the Constitution and defeat tyranny in all its forms.
Here it is.
Follow the Republic.
Last week, the head of the country's central bank loaded the idea of dumping the greenback as the world's reserve currency, replacing it with an international currency.
Thousands of people gathered to hear Barack Obama deliver key foreign policy speech on his current European tour.
His vision for America's place in a new world order.
Returning vets could be a risk to our nation.
We've got to give them a stake in creating the kind of world order that I think all of us would like to see.
And one of the ways that will drive the change is through global governance.
I think the New World Order is emerging.
This is a hoax and a scam which is designed to transfer wealth and power from the private sector to the government sector, and from the government of the United States to a world government.
And those people who have been yelling, oh, the UN's going to take over global government.
Conspiracy theorists.
They've been crazy, but now they're right.
And who got the money?
Hundreds and hundreds of banks.
Any bank that has access to the U.S.
Federal Reserve's discount.
Tell us who they are.
No.
You know, financial terrorism.
They have the ability to tweak the knob.
I am proposing that the Federal Reserve be granted new authority.
The ultimate goal of the carbon tax and the cap-and-trade is to destroy production.
This energy tax is the largest tax increase in American history.
We're actually creating a global warming police.
So number one, they can come in, the federal government can come in and inspect your house and send you the bill.
We're setting up a global warming Gestapo.
One of the things that if you talk to our generals, they are desperate for is a civilian counterpart to our military forces.
I am fierce.
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Senator Barack Obama's presidential campaign is asking Missouri law enforcement to target anyone who lies or runs a misleading television ad.
I've now been in 50
Seven states.
I think one left to go.
The president, when he was in Europe last week, he met with the king of Saudi Arabia.
He appeared to bomb.
President Obama today proposed something new.
Something called prolonged detention.
Pre-crime is where people are arrested and incarcerated to prevent crimes that they have not yet committed.
Fall of the Republic.
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October 21st, 2009.
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Barack Obama depicted as zombie killer in new comic book.
Is that racist?
Should we all be arrested by the thought police?
Is that wrong?
Says they've portrayed the president as a new comic book series named as he plays on words with a popular horror franchise, Resident Evil.
It's Obama with chainsaws as a superhero killing zombies.
Yeah, it was okay to show him as Superman, to show him as Batman, but you don't show him as the Joker.
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Well, I got news for you.
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Jeff, you're on the air.
Welcome.
Yes, good morning, Alex.
Just a question here.
I happen to be listening to Dr. Tenpenny on with Nori, I think it was last week, and I'm just wondering, she hinted that
She's thinking it will not be a forced inoculation, but rather a de facto criminalization of refusing the inoculation.
Yeah, you won't fly, you'll have to stay in your house, they'll arrest you, they won't let you go to work, and then in the future, you have to take all their other vaccines or you can't go to work.
That's exactly how they're planning to do it.
In fact, let's set Tenpenny back up for the show.
She's learned a lot more now about this current flu situation.
She's been picking up a lot of new data.
And let's also set up Horowitz.
Horowitz and Tenpenny.
But go ahead, sir.
So, you know, the thing that disturbs me about this is when she said that, of course, last night I was listening to the replay of when you interviewed Ike.
I think it was the last time you interviewed Ike.
And he seems to, and other people who talk about the New World Order, seem to come back to, our best defense is to peacefully resist.
The problem is,
And it seems that nobody wants to talk about this, not Dr. Stan, not Ike, not anyone.
They're not going to let you peacefully resist.
They're not going to just let it... I understand that.
That's why we don't offensively go out, because then they can cast us as the bad guy.
When we defend ourselves, there's no way for them to demonize it.
But we try to reach out to military and police.
You've got police, the military, the nurses associations in Europe and the U.S.
The majority of them
Two weeks ago it was 35% of nurses say no.
This week it was, last night I saw over 60% in New York State.
Look, they're not going to get away with it, but they're going to come back over and over again with wanting to put things in our bodies because that's what the eugenicists are into.
That's their zero population growth.
That's what the government textbooks call for.
That's what they want.
So they want to set that precedent.
That's why they love pharmacological crops.
They're already engineering the crops to do this.
Yeah, there's a poll.
Half of doctors will refuse to take swine flu shot.
Steve Watson.
That came out... That came out today.
So very, very interesting.
Anything else, sir?
Yeah, did you say that Israel, 75% of the doctors were against the vaccine, but they're going to vaccinate the entire population anyway?
I don't remember saying that.
I must have heard that from somebody else.
So Alex, you are the Sean Connery character in Outland.
Well done.
Outland?
What am I, like, going around with a shotgun, fighting with
For the company hitmen that are trying to sell some amphetamine drug, that's a good movie.
Outland with Sean Connery, you ever seen it?
It's a good science fiction movie.
It's really like a western set on some moon of Saturn, I think.
They're running a mining operation.
It's a good movie.
Sean Connery should've done more serious roles like that.
Said it's like Highlander.
Oh my God.
I like Sean Connery movies like Thunderball.
It's a good movie.
Alright, we're gonna come back with Dr. Eisenstein.
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All right, for the next 15 minutes or so, we are joined by Dr. Mayor Eisenstein.
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Dr. Mayor Eisenstein is a graduate of the University of Illinois Medical School, the Medical College of Wisconsin, School of Public Health, and the John Marshall Law School.
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Doc, I got you on about vaccines, and it's been too long, been like two years since I've had you on.
There is so much to go into, but we were talking during the break.
Please repeat the point you made when I was first talking to you.
Let me tell you, Alex, it is a true report, a comment, you know.
As I've been following this, you know, I've been blessed.
I'm a student of the late Dr. Mendelson, so I knew that vaccines were dangerous, because he knew about that 35 years ago, and so most of my practice and none of my children have been vaccinated.
But you were talking about eugenics, population control, that they have different stuff in the vaccines.
Your material's gotten soft, Alex.
I mean, this is mainstream media that they're picking up on this, you know.
I mean, I wanted to know something.
I looked at Fox News yesterday online, and they talked about that the latest star, Dr. John Holdren, who's a nasty, nasty person.
I mean, and we're going to talk about him for a minute.
You know, he wants to push this vaccine in September, you know, and he's the one who co-authored a book with
Dr. Paul Ehrlich in the 70s about eugenics and everything.
I mean, he's, you know, they openly said it, you know, and he's the one who wants to push this.
So they talked about how about 90,000 people are going to die.
100 people commented.
95% have been listening to Alex Jones, or I thought they were.
There's Mercury, you shouldn't take the vaccine.
There's Squalene, you shouldn't take the vaccine.
Dr. Ted Petty said you shouldn't take the vaccine.
I thought I was looking at an alternative medicine blog.
Unbelievable.
You're soft, Alex.
You gotta get better material.
You gotta make up some stuff.
The New World Order, it's all real.
It's frightening.
Well, here's the issue, and you're right.
Actually, a lot of conspiracy theorists do start getting into the Earth is hollow and has space aliens in it, and Alex Jones is a reptoid.
Because all the mainline stuff has been admitted now, so it doesn't have that shock value.
But no, I just go off the government documents, I go off of what I'm aware of, that's why now it's all mainstream news, because they're carrying their program out.
But because we planted all those seeds, and you and others valiantly did as well, now we're having a big effect.
And you're right, I see articles about the government healthcare, the vaccines,
uh... message boards on mainline newspapers in europe in texas uh... england and you're right nine out of ten or more
When you said 95%, that's more like it.
And people can go see this for themselves.
They're all awake.
They know.
And I think the eugenicists, just like with Hitler, you know, Hitler was a popular guy in 1936, 37, 38.
Time Magazine, you know, great guy.
Eugenics is great.
But as soon as you stand up to him, they collapse.
And I think that's starting to happen, but go ahead.
Paper Tigers.
Well, you know, I just had to add a little bit of something.
He said 30% of doctors, that was the report out of England where they're about to do it, but said they will not administer or take this swine flu vaccine.
But even more, 35% more said they weren't sure.
Which means only about 25% said they would do it.
Well, that's an F in every class I've been in.
Boy, I've been in a lot of classes in my life.
You know, it's... I think the public has gotten well informed.
I think there's so much material you have done, really.
I want to commend you.
You've done an incredible job.
You have talked and talked until people say, hey, wait a minute, Alex may be telling us something that's real.
You know, and so it's really exciting.
You know, I'm really not that worried what's going to happen.
I've told all my families, 50% of the families who come to homeschool their children, so they have a little bit of protection.
I've told those...
I don't know.
I tell you Alex, add conspiracy theory.
Add conspiracy theory.
The vaccine manufacturers know that the vaccine doesn't work.
They absolutely know.
They know that.
It's never worked.
You pointed it out.
The swine flu in 76 didn't work.
Every year the seasonal flu vaccine doesn't work.
Well sir, you're the medical doctor, so take your time, go through that, and then walk through these mercury and squalene adjuvants, what they're causing in the body.
As a top medical doctor, break it down for us.
Well, you know, let me give you what I think their game plan is.
They weren't worried about giving this swine flu vaccine in September when they knew that swine flu wasn't going to be an issue.
But now they're concerned it may be an issue and people may die from it.
I mean, that's not even a question.
So they couldn't give the vaccine in September.
And then the majority of the flu season is between September and the end of October.
That's when the people get sick and die.
After that, it tends to be milder no matter what.
They've got 50 years of history of this.
And so, they realized that when, this may be real, if they gave the vaccine in September, inoculated 300 million people in this country, and 100,000 people died, their whole vaccine program, with all the other childhood vaccines, could go down the drain.
So, they took the vaccine that they had, they put it in storage, and they said, we can't come out with it until the end of October.
Now, uh, John Haldren, Dr. John Haldren, not an MD, not a medical doctor, but yet he's the director of the White House Office on Science and Technology Policy, you know, um, and he said, no, it is so imperative that you have to water it down and give it in the middle of September.
The drug companies now come back to him.
Now, I'm not making this up, but, and say, oh, we're happy to give you water down, because we'll tell you it most probably doesn't work.
So now we're covered either way.
We've made our money in September.
And if it doesn't work, we say, you see, we have to wait until we have the right amount, you know?
And so that's the whole thing, you know?
All the other stuff, the mercury, the squalene, you know, are... I mean, mercury is one of the most known toxins.
And now they're trying to back off and pretend it's not in the vaccine.
But it's not only Alex Jones or Sherry Tenpenny who's saying it.
The Wall Street Journal ran the article.
The New York Times ran the article.
The Washington Post.
Or I like to call it the Washington Compost.
It's so out there.
I think it becomes, Alex, one of these points where all these misinformed or non-thinkers
You know, go along, go along, people are saying, wait a minute, I'm the next one to be put into the concentration camp.
You know, and I think, and I can tell you something that came out this morning, which is great because I heard you mention Mikey Adams, who's just fabulous.
He came out with a video, everyone's going on YouTube, look at his video, it says, don't inject me, it's just great.
And you know, I think now they're less worried about the damage they can cause with mercury and squalene, both toxic chemicals.
Squalene has never been approved for use.
And they're more worried that they could lose the whole program.
What do you mean the whole program?
The polio, the DPT, the measles, mumps, the rubella.
Because once people start doubting, all of a sudden the truth starts coming out.
Well, sir, I know three years ago you looked at the trials.
I covered it.
I had other medical doctors on.
I had families, women whose children had died on the show just in the trials with the HPV shot, the human papilloma, Gardasil.
Right.
And then now the FDA comes out last week and says, yeah, we may put a warning out on this.
From your medical research,
Is it the virus or the adjunct or the thing that triggers the immune system?
Why is that shot killing people?
Well, you know, I think all of them are, but this one is more remarkable because you're dealing with teenage, young teenage girls, and so it becomes more dramatic.
If a four-year-old or five-year-old dies, they can attribute it to something else.
You know, asthma, bronchitis, you know, but when a healthy, good-looking teenager, who's a cheerleader, who's 13, 14, or 15 years old, and those are the ones who have been dying, because those are the ones who are getting the vaccines right now, and you know, Stalin said it the best, the death of one person is a tragedy, the death of 10,000 is a statistic, and I think we've finally taken, you know, what to do, you know,
I don't know the answer, except Dr. Mendelson back in the 70s just made the blanket statement after he was the National Medical Director of Head Start, which means he was the top pediatrician in the country when it came to the government program.
I don't know.
He made the statement every
Every single vaccine causes neurological damage.
And that was even before we knew about the mercury, before we knew about the aluminum.
He just had this global vision of being involved and seeing what was happening.
And I think that everyone's got a piece of the puzzle, Alex.
And so to say it's only the mercury, or only the squalene, or the aluminum, or the abortive fetal tissue, you know, or the neomycin or streptomycin.
So it's not just the adjuvants, it's the cocktail.
I had Dr. Russel Blaylock on last week, the prestigious brain surgeon.
He said that brains are looking different for people's ages, people don't have memory, that people are brain damaged.
And I want to talk to you as a medical doctor when we come back about that.
He said it's vaccines, it's the pesticides, it's the heavy metals in the foods, it's a cocktail.
But what is different today than 30, 40 years ago?
Dr. Mayor Eisenstein, prestigious doctor, huge practice.
We'll talk about how the Amish don't get autism.
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From the minutes and documents of the Carnegie and Ford Foundation that are public from even 80 years ago.
It's just amazing stuff that it is eugenics.
That it's cold-blooded, they see us as animals, and they're carrying this out.
And I know these vaccines are killing people, but as Dr. Eisenstein just said, the little-known secret is that these vaccines don't work.
Even if you believe they work, they never get the mutation right.
Doc, you want to explain that to people?
Well, it's not only the swine flu, because in 1976 we had the best experiment on vaccines ever.
That was when Gerald Ford, President Gerald Ford, felt that we were going to have a swine flu epidemic.
I don't think so.
And so what they did is they immediately ended the program.
They claimed only 40 or 50 people died.
But Alex, I can guarantee you, without knowing the actual data, if 40 or 50 people died, they wouldn't have stopped the program.
My feeling is hundreds died.
And they claimed there were 5,000 people who got a neurological disorder from the vaccine called Guillain-Barré, where you have temporary paralysis, but many times
Complete paralysis, which never recovers.
They claim 5,000.
I believe it's got to be at least 50,000.
Because I know almost every doctor who knew one or two patients who had gamma-ray from the vaccine.
It's not possible.
5,000 is a very, very small number.
And they wouldn't have cut it out because of that.
And there was a warning just now in England from the head of Neurological Services.
Yes sir, yes sir, and the doctor being honest was citing internal CDC reports so they know.
Right, exactly.
And so, we already know in 1976 that this flu vaccine doesn't work, but it's more than just a flu vaccine.
When you take a look, and no one's better than Dr. Sherry Tampini.
I mean, she is just the best researcher I've ever in my life met.
I mean, she gets every look, because she's so gentle-looking, Alex, that everyone is willing to give her the data, thinking that she's not as radical as she is.
And you take a look at her books.
And you take a look at her writing, and you take a look at the data, and what does the data show?
There isn't one disease that a vaccine has really caused to be eliminated.
And if you start with disease, we don't have vaccines.
Tuberculosis, why doesn't it exist today?
Rocky Mountain fever, yellow fever, plague, cholera.
We don't have vaccines for these.
All these diseases were very rampant a hundred years ago, don't exist anymore.
And then when you look at the charts,
I don't know.
The vaccine should change the curve, that it should drop right down.
It doesn't.
It continues at the same curve.
So you take the tuberculosis curve, no vaccine.
Overlay... Doctor, let me stop you because I'm aware of the Australian, US, British, Canadian data.
The graphs can all be superimposed.
I should even dig one up online and post it.
Because of indoor plumbing, because of sanitation, because of better nutrition, you see starting a hundred years ago, a massive plunge
In all these diseases, then vaccines worldwide become popular and the diseases actually across the board start going back up, proving that these are hurting people's immune systems, causing problems.
I'm not stealing your thunder, it's just you're moving quickly.
It is conclusive and that's why the eugenicists want to shoot you up, the evidence shows, is because they believe they're naturally coming in
To reapply diseases that hand-washing and better nutrition and running water have gotten rid of.
Go ahead, sir.
Well, let me tell you, you are 100% right.
But here's what's happened.
There's not a lot of treatment for many of these diseases that we mentioned.
And so, they have to come up with a real scheme.
And that is, how do we create chronic illness, arthritis, cancer, heart disease, where people will live for a substantial amount of time and will have to take drugs for the rest of their life.
And that's the way that we've replaced infectious disease with chronic illness.
And I'm convinced the vaccines are the number one cause of our chronic illness.
And by the way, you said that in books years ago and on this show.
Now we have mainstream news reporting in laboratory tests that it's giving the rats they give the vaccines to chronic, hardcore arthritis.
We'll be right back and talk about that with Dr. Eisenstein.
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We'll play that here.
Got a bunch of other news I want to go over.
I know we have Donna and Bill and Gene and Pat, and I don't want to hang up on these callers, but you were here before we got Dr. Eisenstein on.
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Now, Doctor, you're a humble guy.
You're one of the leading experts on this because the government likes to cover up their own studies, their own tests.
Big Pharma does, or take the aspartame trials.
It killed almost all the rhesus monkeys that they gave it to, but then they use that data by removing the dead monkeys to say, get it approved.
You know, they play all sorts of games.
You're a leading expert because you have one of the biggest practices in the country.
I mean, you're quite the productive person.
Not just, you know, do you have a medical examiner's license, or are you a lawyer, or multiple medical degrees.
You've got a huge, huge practice of homeschoolers, regular folks, and then you also watch the Amish and know them.
Tell folks, well, finish your point about how the vaccines don't work, and then let's get into just the
I think so.
That's exactly right.
I didn't even really know that one way or the other until Dan Olmstead, who was at the time a senior medical writer for United Press International, he came to Chicago to be heard about our practice.
Now I want to know, Alex, that it's not only me, Dr. Rosie, Dr. Shantauer, Dr. Baumhagen, and 20 other doctors who have worked with me over the last 30 plus years.
And we've always had a practice that gave vaccine choice to families.
And you asked earlier, what's the difference from 35 years ago?
Well, 35 years ago, they didn't give 58 vaccines to children in the first couple of years of life.
We gave 10 or 12.
Still most probably problematic.
But the problem was, the pressure was today.
So Dan Olson comes to Chicago.
He spends time with our practice and talks to all the doctors and he said,
You know, where is the autism?
Show me the autism.
I said, you know, I want to know, Alex.
I barely knew what autism was.
I'd read about it in the textbooks, but that was about it.
Never saw a case, you know.
And we have been delivering babies at home.
That's mainly what we've done.
We're still continuing to do it.
And we're close to 20,000 babies alone that we've delivered at home.
But here's the shift in our practice.
In the last 10 or 15 years, I've become more and more vocal about vaccines.
Our vaccine rates have gone from 10% to practice to 9% to 5% where now it's almost non-existent.
The only reason we don't become a vaccine-free practice is because my partners have been with me for more than 25 years who've never vaccinated their children.
He said to me, Mayor, if we give such a hard line, we're going to lose thousands of people when they come, realize that they don't have to vaccinate their children.
It also became obvious that it's more than just autism.
We have virtually no asthma, virtually no diabetes, virtually no allergies.
You know, all these chronic conditions that children today suffer from.
And those people who say, oh, there's no real increase in autism, we're just, um,
I don't need to be a rocket scientist to know that when I went to see movies like Dumbo when I was a kid, or I went to take my sister, who's 14 years younger than me, you know, when I was in high school and college, I'd take her.
My parents would say, will you come over and babysit next week and take her to a movie?
You never saw autistic children.
I'm on the green belt.
I'm at the mall.
I take my kids every few months to a movie.
It's like two or three rows are in there autistic.
I mean, they are, the schools, and people say, oh, well, that's just false diagnosis.
Let me tell you, it's not false diagnosis when you're on the green belt and there's autistic kids running around screaming everywhere, completely out of their minds.
I mean, they, but they're under chemical attack.
And we've seen autism rates go from, what, one in 25,000, 20-something years ago, to one in 86 now.
The Fed's own numbers, I mean, boy.
And that's the most severe case.
All this has to be looked at the same thing, what Dr. Melton said 30 years ago.
What's the difference between ADD, ADHD, and autism?
Just the spectrum.
You know, how severely your brain has been damaged, like Dr. Blalock said, you know, and that's the only difference.
And we saw virtually none of this.
But even more impressive may have been when Blue Cross called me, this was about two or three years ago, and they said to me, because we also have a small HMO group that we're part of, part of Blue Cross,
And they said the asthma rate in their network was 12%.
We had one child out of a thousand with asthma, you know.
And they have a great definition.
Two emergency room visits in one year for any respiratory illness or one hospitalization.
So you can't say one person doing one thing, one person doing another thing.
And they wanted to know.
You have to hear this.
This is very fascinating.
So I go to the meeting there at Blue Cross.
And they said to me, Doc, why do you have such low rates?
I said, well, we're the best doctors in the world.
Just come on, tell us the truth.
So I said, why don't you tell me what you think?
They have all the records there from all the HMO patients.
None of these children are vaccinated.
How incredible.
That was frightening.
That's when I realized that Alex Jones not only is right, not only has had an impact on the country, you know, but this is not conspiracy theory.
This is overt now.
Well, that's what's crazy about this.
Why would these corporate minions who aren't part of that upper crust of eugenicist, why would anybody want to do this?
I mean, I've been on vacation, I've been at the mall, I've been at the grocery store, and you'll see an autistic child, you know, 10 years old in diapers, and I'm not obnoxious about it.
I want to know, and I walk over and I say, when did your child become autistic?
And they always say, after a vaccine.
Eighteen months old, third round of shots, he was running around, talking, singing.
Now he... Now he does this, and the child's... And, I mean, it's... And then I read about how, when your kid has the convulsion that night, they then send the police to arrest you, because they do a CAT scan and see the brain swelling and say you shook your kid's head, when you're a medical doctor and have countless others on.
Clearly, they know the mercury and the squalene,
Uh, is, is causing an autoimmune response and making the brain swell.
So then, they don't just brain damage your kid with a chemical lobotomy, now they're gonna arrest you for it too!
Well, you know, let me tell you, Alex, do you think everyone in Germany were Nazis?
Every one of the people, every one of the Germans?
But, you know, there's a point that the more so-called, quote, intellectual a society becomes, and I put that word in quotes, not smart, you know, they all of a sudden defer to the experts, defer to the experts, and they stop thinking, and then their brain goes soft.
And all of a sudden, you can't imagine that all these experts are wrong.
And it doesn't take very many.
And that's why you said they're a paper tiger.
They're a blessed paper tiger.
And I think what's happening now, just like at the town hall meetings, Alex Jones hired and spent money to hire all these people to go to town hall meetings.
I don't think so.
You didn't hire the 80-year-old woman who was in a wheelchair, who's screaming how ridiculous this is, and they're calling her a hoodlum, you know?
It's all the same, you know?
But it's not working anymore, and that's the problem.
All of a sudden, it's not working.
They no longer can just say it, and that's true.
Chicago politics at its best.
Just say the lie enough times, and people will believe it.
I mean, I think that it's just so out of control.
And I want you to know that autism,
Of all the things in my 30 plus years in medicine, I've never seen anything as devastating to a family.
Cancer, nothing compared to that.
Heart disease, nothing.
Those children are alive, they just have a short life.
Autism, the parents have no life.
No life.
And these are the most brave parents in the world who take care of these children.
You know something?
I was at a conference in California last week, an autism conference.
And I realized something I hadn't realized before.
I'd never met both a husband and wife together.
Well, the child is in a prison, and the parents are in a prison, and it doesn't have to be this way.
But then on top of it, going back to the Amish, I mean, you're right, this has been even picked up in national news.
That you don't have these autistic children with the Amish.
You don't have these high rates of cancer.
You don't have these rates of the asthma.
From your medical research and the other research you've gone over, what is it doing?
I mean, from the other doctors we've had on and...
I don't
I know that's an oversimplification.
It's not an oversimplification.
Why?
I go back to... I'm kind of an old-time general practitioner.
That's what I'm like, you know.
And I'm pretty good, as my wife says it.
When I hear the truth, I seem to know it.
When Dr. Mendelson said it over 30 years ago, every vaccine causes neurological damage.
And then you've got the brilliant people like Dr. Blaylock and Dr. Boyd Haley, who now give you the reason why it's causing it.
We see it!
Every Alex Jones, and there aren't very many of you, who goes to the mall, sees it!
All they're doing is giving you why it's happened.
You know, I have made the statement, Alex, now for more than three years, there is no autism in our practice.
I use the word virtually, because I don't know every single family.
I mean, some may have left, may have moved to California.
I've yet to get one letter!
And boy, do I get a lot of hate emails.
Hate emails at times.
You know, when I talk about Obamacare, it's not for this doctor.
My God, I got people sending me back emails.
You better apologize.
He's our president.
He's not my president.
I didn't vote for him.
Oh yeah, they love it.
They love to now say you can't even criticize him.
Well, I mean, the issue is I've read over the three different bills.
And everything people say is in there, is in there and more, and we've shown the subsections.
And they use this big lie, like they say, we haven't introduced any anti-gun bills.
They've introduced all these horrible ones, we've listed them.
They say, oh, that's not in there.
And then, you know, all this government control, all this rationing of care, that's the European model.
We know, but also forcing more vaccines, more drugs.
We know that that's all in there, but I also watch CNN and these other channels
They keep showing I just am broke and I don't have money for my illness and I need the free health care.
They don't explain that it's only going to bankrupt things more and that government isn't going to give you that health care.
They're going to take money out of your paycheck and then give you an aspirin for a heart attack.
But again, they're selling, feel sorry for me, you know, be nice Americans, give in to big government again, and people are wise now.
They don't, when somebody beats them over the head and says, you're a racist if you don't do what we say, you don't care about sick people if you don't do what we say, people see right through that.
This is the most gracious country in the world.
God bless America.
My father came from Poland.
He lived in Russia.
He was a rabbi.
He was a good businessman.
He came to America.
My dad spoke nine languages.
He's traveled the whole world.
When he came to America, I was a year old when he came to America.
It was after the war.
Every morning he got up and said, God bless America.
There is no country more gracious that will take care of people.
Everyone's taken care of in this country.
Mr. President, you don't know what the blessed heck you're talking about.
If you, God forbid, you know, have an injury, you go to any emergency room, they take care of you.
If that bill isn't passed on to someone else, the doctor in the hospital will take care of you.
They don't get paid.
Exactly, my dad's a physician, and he says they were taught in medical school, they were taught that's what you do, that about 20-30% of your practice is supposed to be free.
And then now, under this Obamacare, it actually takes that liability off the hospitals, off the doctors, and off the insurance companies, and then you get government care.
The government says they can't even read the 1300-page bill.
But they're going to now practice medicine, and then Obama gives these speeches where he says what test you need, and he's now Dr. Obama?
Yeah, I know.
Let me tell you something.
There are a couple of doctors in Congress and in the Senate, and every one of them is against this, Republican or Democrat.
I find that very fascinating, you know.
But, you know, I think you're right, Alex.
I think they're seeing through it.
And so your message is coming through it.
Really, God bless you, what you've been doing.
You know, it's been just incredible because, you know, who would have thought that two or three years ago?
You know, that, I mean, it's just absolutely amazing.
But I can tell you, going back to the vaccine issues, what can we do?
Because we don't have to bury our head in the sand right now.
There are some very simple, simple treatments.
This washing of the hands is nonsense.
You know, what are you supposed to tell, you know, when, don't kiss anyone, don't shake your hand, wash your hands, this is, you know, this is nonsense!
Because, you know, uh, I mean, it's clearly good hygiene before you sit down to eat to wash your hands.
I mean, that's, um, but this business, what they're talking about is image without substance.
And I can tell you that there's enough evidence.
That vitamin D has made a difference.
We looked at the 1918 Spanish Flu, and the most interesting thing were the sailors.
We're at war, remember, 1918.
The sailors on the ship had the lowest mortality from the Spanish Flu.
The soldiers in the barracks and in the foxholes had the highest mortality.
So we need sunshine!
Say that again?
We need to get more sun.
More sun, more sun.
And if not, you get a little bit of vitamin D. I mean, it's inexpensive, it's cheap.
You know, no one can make a big living selling it.
You know, you want your vitamin D. You want to get your vitamin D levels up.
And of course, that's the old wives' tale, is you need to get more sun or you're going to get sick.
You need to get outside.
Right.
My grandmother used to tell me, Alex, when I'd be sitting, it was nice, I'd say, Mayor, what are you doing in the house?
It's beautiful.
Get outside.
You know, get a little bit of sun.
I want to know how powerful this message is.
You know, there's been 35 years of deception by the American Academy of Dermatology saying that sun will give you skin cancer.
Well, if that's true, how come we have more skin cancer now than ever and no one's in the sun?
Well, I'll tell you why.
Just what you said.
Sunscreen.
They've got chemicals and poisons that are just as bad as the vaccine.
No one should be taking sunscreen.
You know, it's unbelievable.
It's almost pure aluminum.
It's incredible.
We're meant to get sun.
It's what our whole body drives on.
All the studies in Northern Europe with the highest rates of suicide.
By law, they stick sun lamps in.
Suicide rate plunges because our eyes are meant to get sun.
We are meant to get sun.
And yes, we're meant for our skin to get spots on it and get old.
I mean, this is what we're designed.
We live on a planet.
Northern Europeans have white skin, so they get more because you have less sun in the north.
You want the sun.
You need the sun.
It's good.
That's exactly right, you know.
And I'm giving a paper in December, I'm presenting a paper at the American Academy of Anti-Aging, and the topic is, um, low vitamin D levels, the root cause of cancer.
There's enough evidence that that's most probably true.
No longer conspiracy theory.
Already people are believing it.
Well, imagine the conspiracy theory.
It's like when I see ads for grass-fed beef.
It's like bizarre to feed cows grass instead of dead cows.
And it's bizarre to go, oh, we're supposed to get sun.
Or, wow, global warming's good.
It's caused by the sun.
The sun, imagine it.
It's the source of life.
Doctor, stay there.
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Dr. Eisenstein, there's so many other points.
What do you see happening then?
Because I agree with you.
This is all a fluid situation.
That so much came out on Gardasil killing people, so much has come out on autism, that they're now trying this big flu hysteria as a cover for federal and UN control under level 6, and that's congressmen are saying this now too.
Exactly, I think you're right on point.
I mean, you're right on point.
It's not even theory anymore, it's reality.
So really, they're playing the game from 20 years ago, but you and I and many others have woken folks up, the great listeners out there have, and so now, I saw them go from saying they had 195 million doses to 40 million dosages, and I'm not saying we've had victory, because they may keep going, but it does look like we're seeing them start to pull back.
I think there's no question about it.
They're applying as much scare tactics as possible.
90,000 will die.
It's possible!
It's possible 90,000 will die.
I don't think it's out of the question.
Once again, the answer isn't going to be the
You know, it's just like Gardasil.
Let's go back here for a minute.
There's a serious problem.
What the problem is, that there's no question about it, that promiscuity among young children, among teenagers, is the cause of sexually transmitted disease.
Until we say that out loud, it's not going to stop.
And all we do is give it different names.
Before it used to be called, um...
It used to be called syphilis and gonorrhea, then it changed to herpes, then it became AIDS, and now they're talking about, you know, and so, all they're doing is giving fancy names, because we're so politically correct, we're not allowed to say, if you have sexual relations, you know, outside of marriage, or, and I'm not trying to be this, you know, religious type person.
No, the point is, it's dangerous behavior, you're gonna get burned, this is serious, serious business.
And so they give you a vaccine, which they admit on the insert, doesn't even protect you from the human papillomavirus, all the hundreds of strains, and then it kills a bunch of people.
And let me tell you something, my senior partner, Dr. Rosie, who's been with me for more than 25 years, calls all these, the Gardasil, the Hepatitis B vaccine, the safe sex vaccine.
What is the message we're giving?
We've got such great vaccines, you can go and have sex with everyone after you get this vaccine.
I mean, that's the message, you know.
I mean, what a message.
And all of a sudden, people say, wait a minute.
That's not a very good message.
And it's no different here than the flu vaccine and the whole vaccine program.
You know, I think people are wising up.
And that's the worst thing.
You know what it is?
It's not as much wising up.
They're having the courage to say, you know, Alex may be right.
He may not be that crazy lunatic who's talking about that we need our guns and we need our rights.
Maybe there is a constitution still, you know.
This is America, and my dad right now is not rolling over his grave.
He is saying, you know, the people will wake up and they will vote this administration out.
Will that end it?
No, but you know what?
Live another day.
The point is we're in the fight, we're not rolling over to tyranny.
I want to come back and take some phone calls, but I want to encourage all the viewers and listeners, don't vaccinate before you educate.
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We are joined by John Perkins, best-selling, New York Times No.
1 best-selling, Confessions of an Economic Hitman.
He's got his Part 2, vaunted, hoodwinked, about to come out in the next few months.
Already on pre-sale, I'm told.
Guaranteed to be another best-seller, probably No.
1 again.
And by the way, he is in my upcoming film, Fall of the Republic.
So we're going to be, and that's a film all about the economy and what these big corporate interests are doing.
It's bipartisan, looking at how both parties are controlled by the same interest.
So we're honored to have him with us for the next hour.
Coming up in 30 minutes, we're going to open the phone specifically
Great to be with you, Alex.
Thanks for having me on.
Incidentally, I really enjoyed talking with your film crew.
You've got a great group of people.
Yeah, they're fantastic.
They're really good interviewers.
You're going to have a heck of a film.
Oh, it looks great too.
Great shot out your back window of the bay there.
Just wonderful.
Plus, you're a great interview to do.
You're even better in person than over the radio, which is hard to believe.
You're a smooth operator, John Perkins.
It's almost like you're an economic hitman.
We're really good at patting each other's backs, aren't we, Alex?
No, but it did go well.
It did go well.
And that is exciting.
Nutshell, tell folks about yourself and get into hoodwinked.
Well, I was an economic hitman, and I think it's fair to say that we economic hitmen have created the world's first truly global empire.
We've done it primarily without the military.
First time in history that's happened.
And we work many ways, but the most common is that we identify a third world country that has resources our corporations covet.
Then we basically convince, bribe, coerce the leaders of those countries into accepting loans.
I don't
We're good to go.
And these are CIA-sponsored people who overthrow governments or assassinate their leaders.
Both Roldos and Torrijos were assassinated because I failed.
And in this way, we've really created the world's first truly global empire.
Now, what's interesting, and what I talk a lot about in Hoodwinked, is that we were so successful at doing this in the third world, that now it's come back, and the economic hitmen have come home to roost, are these same techniques that are being implemented here in the United States.
I don't know.
We're going to go to break.
We'll come back.
Long segment coming up.
Let's get into Hoodwinked, which is in many ways a different book than Confessions of Economic Hitman.
I was in an airport in LA and saw, you know, this bookstore full of people with two people
Grabbing and buying the books up.
I was watching the stack of economic hitmen go down just in 20 seconds while I was looking at a magazine.
So really exciting that your book has had such success because when I can physically see people
You know, buying it off the shelf in front of me in seconds, it just must be amazing.
When we come back, we'll talk about Foot Wink, probably going to be even bigger, with John Perkins and his take on the Blackwater Revelations, how that ties into CIA hit teams, the Jackals, and a lot more.
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Forgot this little best-seller.
The new one's coming out very, very soon, and that is Hoodwinked.
John Perkins, tell us specifically, then we'll get into all these other issues, about Hoodwinked, when it's coming out, what it covers.
It comes out November 10th at Random House, and it's
You know, what we've really generated was the current recession and my sense that all of the stuff that we're talking about, AIG, Wall Street, the bank, the auto industry, you know, try and deal with all of that as triage.
It's putting Band-Aids on wounds.
And we need the Band-Aids to a certain degree because there's a lot of hemorrhaging going on.
We've got to stop.
But what we really need to look at is the root cause beneath the system, beneath the surface.
And that is systemic.
Uh, and it's something that nobody's really looking at very hard.
To me, this is a mutant form of capitalism that's been going on for about the last 20 years.
Excuse me, 30 years.
And that's the real problem.
We must change that.
Sure, we need Band-Aid, but we need to go much, much deeper than that.
Capitalism's been around for about 400 years.
It's taken many, many different forms.
And in the last
30 years, really, since the time of Reagan.
And this has happened on both Democrats and Republicans, but it really started with Reagan.
It's taken this trend toward this very mutant, viral form of capitalism, which is extremely greedy and extremely self-destructive, ultimately.
It's really the form of capitalism that came out of Milton Friedman, the economist from the University of Chicago, and Reagan bought into it big time, and every president since has bought into it.
Well, wasn't the coup de grace in 99 with the Glass-Steagall Act that Bill Clinton got rid of?
That was a big one.
There's no question about it.
But that's just sort of like the frosting on the cake.
There was so much going on.
When I went to business school in the late 60s, Alex... God, I hate to think of so long ago, but...
When I went to business school in the late 60s, all my professors said there could never be another depression like the one in the 30s, because we enacted all these rules to prevent it.
Well, that was true, but then we changed all that, and Glass-Steagall under Clinton was a huge part of that, but there were a whole slew of them that changed, and a whole lot of attitude toward money and usury rates.
Under George Bush, we had huge increases in interest rates that people had to pay.
Credit cards went up to $35,000.
Yeah, now they allow over 30% that supposed credit card reform.
I mean, that's above loan sharking.
Yeah, well, yeah, and that's way beyond... The laws never would have permitted this before.
After the recession, we implemented usury laws that didn't permit that, but then those all changed.
There's actually some people paying 800% on their debt.
These are people that have what we call the payday loans.
You know, I mean, you can go in before you actually get your paycheck and get a loan on the expected paycheck.
And those are huge interest rates, and they're legal.
Amazing.
Well, the book is coming out on November 11th, correct, John?
November 10th.
Okay, so November 10th.
Close enough.
And we've got you scheduled for the 11th then, good.
Fantastic.
Oh, good.
They just handed me a note saying he is scheduled for November 11th when it comes out, so my producer was wrong by one day, so it's coming out November 10th.
Now, I agree with a lot of what you have to say.
Later in the interview I want to get into, you know, maybe somewhat of a debate about economic systems and choices, but I think what we agree on is this crony capitalist system, this mutant form of capitalism,
I just call it piracy.
I mean, if they can just create trillions in made-up derivatives and then have the central governments bail them out when they're using the money to then go loan it at loan-sharking rates to third-world countries, third-world people, the American people, I mean, that's sick.
We give them the government-backed loans, they then leverage it, fractional reserve it,
And then we pay interest to the banks on our money they loan back to us.
I mean, is that a good way of boiling it down?
That certainly is.
And it is piracy.
There's no question about it.
And we must turn it around, Alex.
And that's really a large part of Hoodwinked is what we can do.
What you and I and all your listeners can do.
We can take control of this.
One of the things that we have to understand is that big corporations, the banks and the other corporations that are behind this,
Are very beholden to us.
They only exist because we give them business.
We buy their goods and services, or we allow our tax dollars and our government to go into that.
There are many ways to resist, and I think it's terribly important that we do that now.
We must turn this thing around.
You know, what we have to realize in all of this is that this economic crisis is basically telling us that we have a failed system.
Totally failed.
On a global basis.
Less than 5% of the world's population live in the United States, and we consume more than 25% of the world's resources.
That's a failure.
It's not a model that you can give to China or India or Latin America or Africa.
You'd need another five or six planets with all our resources and no people to be able to use this as a model for other people.
So what we're seeing is a totally failed system.
And we must understand that for our sake, for our children's sake and our grandchildren's sake,
We have to turn this around.
We have to come up with a very, very different system.
John Perkins, I want to get into that area because I agree with you on so much, but I also disagree with you on some areas because we know we do have a wasteful form of life.
Lifestyle we know we're four percent of the world's population in the US and we use roughly half the world's resources And we know there's a lot of toxic waste associated with that and a lot of problems But the way I see government addressing that and the big mega corporations addressing it is by haunt showing and steering the environmental movement to simply set up new taxes and control and
to further vertically integrate the consolidation of power in this new phase of robber baron colonialism because they fundamentally know that there is a certain truth to what's happening to the environment on many levels and so they wrap the truth around their overall lie of this new bank of the world global government
Absolutely, and the way that they distort the truth and
You know, move groups.
So today we've got this huge grassroots movement, basically supported by the insurance industry and the pharmaceutical industry, opposing any kind of real insurance for people that don't have insurance.
We've got the corporations out there making it, trying to make it look as though the people are behind so much of what just benefits the corporation.
And, you know, I think one amazing instance of this is what just happened in Honduras,
A democratically elected president was overthrown by a military regime that was under the control of the CIA and big American corporate interests, the big agribusinesses, Dole and Chiquita, Kraft Cargo, as well as the textile industry.
And yet here in the United States, we're being told that this is the president who was trying to usurp the democratic process in Honduras, which is not true at all.
He asked for a referendum.
I think.
And just to be clear, Obama came out day one a month ago and said, we're not involved, this is terrible, but now even mainstream media has come out and clearly shown private corporations, mercenaries, CIA front groups, jackals, hyenas that you call them,
uh... were clearly involved and did this and even dropped the president off at a Costa Rican U.S.
military base.
So, I asked you during the break, I said, from what you've seen in the news, is that accurate?
You said yes.
Please elaborate on the difference between an economic hitman versus jackals and hyenas and what really happened a month ago in Honduras.
Well, the economic hitman went into Honduras originally, tried to convince Zelaya, the president of Honduras, to change his ways because what he was saying is that
Honduras is going to increase its minimum wage by 60 percent.
And that has a huge impact on gold and tequila and those who hire laborers out in the field to pick their pot back and get all their goods.
So they're going to go from, what, 50 cents an hour to $1.10 or something?
Exactly.
It seems very minimal to us.
And also that there's a lot of sweatshops from our textile companies, companies like Nike and other companies like that in there.
But it's much bigger than that, Alex, because something similar happened with Aristide and Haiti.
And both Haiti and Honduras are looked at as the bottom rung on the ladder of wages in Latin America.
So no country will go below those countries.
So if, in fact, Honduras or Haiti increases their minimum wage, then Ecuador and Nicaragua and El Salvador and every other country in the southern hemisphere
It has to increase its wages to stay above those because no one wants to go below those countries.
So it wasn't just about Honduras anymore than it was just about Haiti.
It was about drawing a line in the sand and saying, we are not going to permit this to happen.
And I think we have to understand that there's a revolution going on in Latin America.
Ten countries representing more than 80% of the population of South America have voted in in the last few years
Progressive presidents who are saying no more exploitation by these foreign corporations.
Ten countries, and every one of these countries, Alex, during most of my lifetime was run by brutal dictators who were under the control of the CIA and big corporations.
That's all changed very, very recently.
And so the line in the sand now has been drawn in Honduras.
This is a fairly easy country to do it, but this is trying to establish a whole new precedent saying, look,
We're stopping this revolution right here.
And in stopping it, we're also going to undermine these other ten countries that have already voted in these presidents.
And most of the American people don't have any idea that this is going on, and our media has been very lax in informing us.
Other than you.
Well, we're trying to get all points of view and all issues in here, and clearly the CIA was involved in this because they want to keep those people down.
It's like that movie Ants.
If you let one ant stand up, they might all stand up, and those little ants outnumber us 100 to 1.
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John, you specifically, all over Latin America, all over Asia, you were kind of the velvet glove, I would describe it from reading your book.
And also reading other government documents about similar programs going and trying to, you know, give them the carrot instead of the stick.
But when the stick goes in,
What happens?
And then asking that question, I want to preface it with, obviously you know about Blackwater running hit teams, but the media has spun this saying, oh, just killing Al Qaeda.
That's whoever they say Al Qaeda is.
Now it turns out it's business people, political enemies, business enemies of the White House.
Actual private merc teams.
We know Delta Force and other groups out of the Pentagon have engaged in murder, but is this new to have private contractors doing it, or are we now just learning about it because of the internet age?
It's not new at all.
It's been going on for a long time.
Back in the 70s when I was an economic hitman, we used private contractors.
That's the way it's done.
You know, the old times of the 007, the government agent licensed killer, long, long gone.
Uh, it's all done with private contractors.
It's coming out because Blackwater's coming out because, yeah, and as you said, the internet age is bringing it out.
Plus, I think what we're beginning to understand is that terrorism is an insane word.
This war on terror is ridiculous.
There's no terrorism out there.
There are people who practice terrorism, but from many different walks of life.
So the FARC members in Colombia have nothing in common with a Somali pirate.
Or Al-Qaeda.
And yet they're all lumped under this one ism.
Isn't the War on Terror, John, just a global letter of marque by Western governments to kill, steal, destroy, torture, murder whoever you want and anybody that resists you is called a terrorist?
That's a great way to put it.
Yes, the letter of marque.
That's a great way to put it, Alex.
Yeah, you know, there was communism, and that truly existed.
There's Catholicism, and there's all kinds of isms, but terrorism really isn't an ism.
You know, there's al-Qaedaism, there's Sparkism, but they're totally separate.
And, yeah, this is just a way of making it sound as though we've got some huge enemy out there.
What we really got out there is a bunch of starving people, unhappy people, who latch on to fanatical leaders like Osama Bin Laden because they don't know what else to do.
And they do it under FARC and Columbia.
I know a lot of the members of FARC, and I shouldn't say a lot, I know some members of FARC.
These are farmers who were driven off their land by big hydroelectric projects or oil fields that destroyed their farming land.
They have no way to feed their families.
They don't know where to go.
So when an organization comes along like FARC that offers to provide them with money for their families and food, they join it.
I suspect the same is true with Al-Qaeda and with the Taliban to a certain degree.
Well, John, what about this?
I've actually found in my research, a lot of times, Western powers and corporations will actually fund the radical group that is bloody and crooked, as a way down the road to then successfully demonize the entire indigenous population, so they always push people towards the most radicalized, knowing down the road that will discredit the indigenous resistance.
You're right.
It does do that and it also creates a huge economy for big military suppliers.
So here we've got this war on terrorism in Colombia.
Colombia is the fourth largest recipient of U.S.
military aid in the world, largest in Latin America, but it's fourth behind Iraq, Israel, and Egypt.
Fancy that!
To fight what we're saying are narco-traffickers.
It's absurd.
We're creating a war there, basically, so we can put military bases there.
And we can supply huge amounts of military equipment to this country.
So we give them the money under the understanding that they'll buy back equipment from us and allow us to have military bases there.
Yeah, you know, this goes back to the opium wars of the British Empire in China and India.
It's a very, very old tale.
And we're just continuing to do it.
And unfortunately, a huge sector of the American population falls for it.
We're going to get a break in a moment.
Long segment coming up and we're going to get more into that and also one of the new constitutions in Ecuador.
But did you see the... I'll ask the question now, we'll come back and you can answer it.
Ridge, fellow cabinet members pushed terror alerts.
Now, we know Ari Fleischer, back in 2003, admitted they were issuing fake terror alerts at a press conference.
And I understand he did it because he knew it was criminal.
He never said why, but I was guessing at this.
And that he didn't want to get in trouble down the road as if he was involved.
Now that's what Ridge is saying, that he's coming clean because he doesn't want to get in trouble.
And the news is saying this is clearly criminal to issue fake terror alerts just for political gain.
So talk about stage crises.
How do these big corporations and governments use stage crises to get the job done?
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Again, previously he wrote The Secret History of the American Empire and, of course, Confessions of an Economic Hitman.
You heard me throw out that question.
As more and more comes out, I mean, Cheney
Ordering private hit teams and Delta Force hit teams to murder his enemies overseas, corporate enemies overseas.
Ridge being ordered to issue fake terror alerts.
And Obama is saying, no investigation of torture, no investigation of Blackwater, no investigation of any of this.
Or he'll do the corporate tactic of saying, I'm looking at it but then not do it.
He's keeping the continual secret arrest, indefinite detention.
Can you speak to prosecuting or at least investigating Bush?
Or can we just, I guess, let him get away with it?
I mean, what does this do precedent-wise to let them get away with Blackwater and underage girls and all the rest of it?
I mean, is there no end?
If we put up with this level of evil, what comes next?
You're exactly right.
We mustn't put up with this.
I think we, the people, must really speak out.
My own belief, you know, I think Obama's in a very difficult spot.
Obviously, I'm not privy to what's going on with him.
I'm not a psychologist.
But he has to know that Kennedy was assassinated.
Two Kennedys were assassinated.
I mean, U.S.
presidents get assassinated too.
It isn't just foreign presidents.
And once you're in that White House, I think you begin to see things that you never saw before.
I suspect Obama's getting tremendous amounts of pressure put on him.
It's one of the reasons he's been caving in to so many things.
You know, his own Attorney General, Eric Holder, was a partner at a law firm called Covington & Burling, LLP.
This law firm defended Chiquita, the big banana company that's now the big company in Honduras.
Chiquita was accused of hiring assassination squads in Colombia.
And their main defender was an attorney named Eric Holder, who's now our Attorney General.
Is that United Fruit?
Chiquita.
What was Chiquita formula?
Was it Standard Fruit or United Fruit?
Yeah, Chiquita was United Fruit at one time.
And, uh... So that's the famous folks, uh, then overthrowing on record Guatemala.
They are, uh, are members of Guatemala, yes, back in the 60s.
So, same story over and over again.
Sorry for interrupting.
Go ahead.
Same story.
Chiquita, incidentally, was found guilty of hiring assassination squads in Colombia.
In fact, it is admitted that it had paid organizations listed by the U.S.
government as terrorist groups for protection and paid a $25 million fine in 2004.
Eric Holder, our current Attorney General, was their main defender then, and now he's defending the actions of the coup that overthrew the Democratic elected president of Honduras.
It's just another instance, Alex, of how ingrained all of this is in all of our governments, whether we have Democrats in there, including the most liberal Democrat we've had, the current one, Obama, or whether we have conservative Republicans like Bush.
The real people in control are the big corporations.
And they really run the system.
We're seeing this over and over and over again.
And so, you've got guys like Cheney, you've got guys like all the cabinet members you mentioned earlier, who now are trying not to be found guilty of being involved in assassination attempts.
But the fact of the matter is, all these people at the top of government came from out of the big corporations, this revolving door thing.
And so, whether it's Democrats or Republicans, you've got people that are constantly at the top.
I call it the Corporatocracy.
Because whether they're working for the government, or whether they're working for private corporations, they're all working for the same thing, which is expanding this empire.
Well, John Perkins, I'm not defending Obama because I saw him built up as this big corporate juggernaut.
I saw him getting four plus times the money that McCain got.
I wasn't supporting McCain either.
I just was clear he was the anointed one, but...
I do have to give credit when I do occasionally see it.
Panetta did scurry over immediately to Congress within days of getting in and said, look, they just admitted to me they've got all these head squads, so at least he did that.
But was that him covering his butt?
Because then you bring up
The Attorney General, who's been involved in black ops.
I would add Oklahoma City, by the way.
Very scary person.
We got some federal documents on that, him covering things up.
So are you just saying... I mean, if it is business as usual, then why would Panetta come out?
You know, again, I don't have any inside information on Obama's personality or those people around him, but my suspicion is that he's probably a guy with a conscience who would like to do the right thing and so would many of his people, but you get caught in the system, and once you're in, it's extremely scary.
And what are you going to do?
How are you going to fight the CIA?
How are you going to fight the military?
So you try to do whatever you can on whatever front you can.
I've seen this happen time and time again with Latin American presidents who want to do the right things but realize that if they get thrown out or if they get assassinated that's not going to do any good because the next president coming along is just going to...
Be scared, terribly scared, and not going to do anything.
So you try to stay in power, and you try to do what you can.
In the case of a guy like Obama, he's tried to institute some environmental laws that are decent, and he's tried to do things with health insurance, but he keeps running up against very, very powerful forces of resistance.
And so it comes down to us.
We have to speak out a lot more.
We have to do a lot more.
We the people.
We have to stand up to corporations and say, listen, I'm not buying from Dole or Chiquita.
You know, and send them emails and tell them we're never buying another one of your bananas or pineapples because of what you're doing in Honduras.
You change your ways or we're going to force you to go out of business.
And I'll tell you what,
If enough of us do that, they'll have to change their ways.
If enough of us stop buying Nike and send them emails and say, we're not buying from you because you get sweatshops in Indonesia, and instead we buy from sweatshop-free organizations and send them emails and tell them why, eventually Nike's going to have to change its ways.
I do agree with you that responsible consumerism is one of the strongest tools we've got.
That's why these Monopoly men
We're good to go.
And we've gotten companies to take trans fats out of foods recently, and, you know, we got rid of aerosol cans that were destroying the ozone layer, we've gotten companies to clean up terribly polluted rivers.
We have a lot of power when we use it.
I think we need to understand that it's always come from we, the people.
We didn't get rid of slavery in this country because Abraham Lincoln found himself in the White House.
We got rid of slavery because we voted in a president, Lincoln, who was opposed to slavery.
We didn't.
Women didn't get the right to vote because Woodrow Wilson was pro-suffrage.
He was not.
Women get the right to vote because they've been demonstrating for it for a long time.
And then, when Wilson was president, he constantly was out and down the road speaking about how we needed to get involved in World War I, how we needed to defend democracy in Europe.
Women met him at every place he went, holding up huge placards that said, why should we defend democracy in Europe when half of our population in the United States can't vote?
So finally, Woodrow Wilson came around.
We didn't get out of Vietnam because Richard Nixon was anti-war.
He was pro-war.
He had to take us out of Vietnam because he understood that we, the people, were not going to put up with it any longer, plus we were losing the war.
But I think we need to understand that we, the people, need to take action.
And in this particular case, in some respects, it's easier than it's ever been because these things are all controlled by big corporations today.
And the marketplace is democratic if we choose to make it such.
These corporations only exist because we buy the goods and services, or our tax dollars buy the goods and services.
Alex, we need to turn that around.
We the people need to start taking more responsibility.
It doesn't do any good to complain about these things and then go out and buy bananas from Dole or tennis shoes from Nike.
Sure, John, I agree with you on that front, and I believe you're coming at this from a good perspective, that you're a good guy, that you have changed your ways.
I just think it's also important to realize that just trying to do the right thing isn't enough.
We have to make sure we're not part of the fake corporate clone or counterfeit
Where they try to get control of our grassroots movements and then say, use environmental laws to take farms and ranches or restrict people.
Take Austin.
I've watched them with smart growth, take farms and ranches, not let people build on it.
And then ten years later, they build shopping malls on it and skyscrapers.
So I also see the environmental movement run by the big banks, by the very
I don't want to live off the backs of starving people in Peru, but at the same time
It's a big job to navigate this and try to figure out what's real and what isn't and how do you not get co-opted.
I mean, because it sounds great to take Ecuador and say they have a constitution saying that they're going to give trees and animals rights, but then I always see that
by the neo-eugenicist as their pretext to say the world government's going to vote for you because it's voting for the cockroaches and the dolphins and they outvote humanity.
So I'm just saying this is a minefield because these global corporations are in power because they are so slick.
Well, you're right about that, but yeah.
But, you know, I think that we can see beyond a great deal of that.
We can see that there
That they're using their powers and abusing it.
We can see this in the way they take care of themselves.
I do a lot of speaking at business schools these days, which I find ironic that business schools even invite me to speak.
I wrote a book called Confessions of an Economic Kid, man.
But the kids in these business schools, many of them are really interested in some of these subjects.
And one of the things they keep running into is some of the icons that are held up there.
A guy named Jack Welch, who was CEO of General Electric.
It's held out as this great icon because he made his corporation lean and mean, which means he laid off a quarter of GE's people, put them out on the street, while at the same time he paid himself huge bonuses and salary increases.
And he also took GE away from manufacturing things, goods, being a manufacturing firm, into being a financial paper trading firm, which is one of the things that drove us into the financial crisis.
Yeah, it's engaged in derivatives, that's right.
How do we, yeah, so how do we hold a guy like that out as an icon in our business?
We should not.
And I think if we really open our hearts to these things, we understand that.
You understand that, Alex.
I understand it.
We've got to turn this thing around and we've got to present better examples to our kids of who do they want to emulate?
Who do we want to put on the covers of our magazines?
Do we want to put Crooks, Modern Robert Barron?
On the cover of our magazine, or do we want to put people there who are really trying?
I totally agree with you.
In fact, I talk so much about the map-making of the mind, or blueprints in the mind, how the establishment builds these, and I'm not saying Michael Jordan or Tiger Woods or somebody shouldn't be on the cover of something, or Brock Lesnar of Ultimate Fighting, but when this country was the jewel in the crown of the Renaissance, the stars were inventors and scientists and humanitarians
And people that stood up against corruption.
And so the establishment very cunningly took our real heroes away and gave us heroes of no consequence.
Well, that's true.
And we don't need to let that happen anymore.
Yeah, you mentioned Tiger Woods, for example.
My God, you know, here's a guy that's making, I don't know what he's making this year, $40 million off Nike or whatever.
Meanwhile, Nike's paying... No, he's paid $109 million.
A hundred and five.
Well, I mean, well, Nike's paying its workers in Indonesia that make all the things that Michael Jordan is advertising.
Sub-living standard wages.
These people are living almost like slaves.
And that's well, well documented.
So, you know, why doesn't Tiger Woods, if he wants to be our hero, he doesn't need to hit any more golf balls.
What he needs to do is say, listen,
I'm not going to let Nike get away with it anymore.
I'm going to speak out, or I'm going to advertise some other company, and I'll do it for free, some company that's paying their share.
That would revolutionize the world, but see, Tiger Woods, the only reason I know about this is I've looked into him, and I heard the number on the radio, on Fox News Radio, they announced his hundred plus million dollar contract, and that's just Nike, not counting this watch and that shirt and
I guess all of us have to not buy it while they do that, but Tiger Woods has been interviewed how he isn't involved in any politics, in any policies, in any charities really except for some charity for college dealing with golf.
He thinks it's a moral thing that he's not involved.
He thinks it's like a good thing, and the corporations just worship him because he is cold-blooded.
And I can't imagine having a hundred million dollars a year based on people dying of diseases in sweatshops, in these horrible malaria-infested camps, and maquiladoras.
I mean, and I'm not some goody-two-shoe.
I mean, I'm a pretty hard-nosed guy, but yeah,
Tiger Woods could become a mega icon.
His life would have real value.
Instead, it's this hollow crap of hitting a golf ball.
You're absolutely right, John.
It's sickening.
Well, yeah, and ultimately, you know, who buys the magazines?
Who buys into this?
Who watches it on television?
We do, you know.
So it's time that we stopped doing that.
It's time that we took back control.
And this is where it really belongs, Alex, is that we, the people,
We have to recognize that we have responsibilities.
And if we want a country of, by, and for the people, instead of one that's of, by, and for the elite, the corporations, etc., we've got to get off our butts and do something about it.
I think that's what you're calling for all the time, so it's one of the reasons I love being on your show, because you're inspiring and empowering people to do that.
We need to do it more and more and more, because it's always been the way that change has happened.
I agree, but John, what would you call that corporate attitude?
I don't know the word for it.
Where they get off on being cold-blooded, they get off on not caring, they think it's silly.
I mean, that's a very... That's sociopathic.
Yeah, sociopathic.
And you know, I think that at the top of a number of our corporations, we do have sociopath people who have basically no conscience, but don't care about what harm they bring to others.
I think Jack Welch was a person like that, and I think Bill Nye had ideas.
But throughout the rest of the corporation, most of the other managers and people are not, and those are the ones we need to get to.
Well, absolutely, but I mean, also we destroy our own world, not just environmentally, but culturally.
This attitude, I see the local yuppies, manic it, and they're into laughing at bad things happening, as if it doesn't touch them.
When they're kids, they're going to end up committing suicide or on drugs in this sick society.
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Me and John were just talking about all the websites and groups we can find out about the sweatshop free clothes and products that are becoming more and more popular.
And it's those little choices that you think are little that really add up to big things.
And then I hear these arguments about, oh, if there's not a sweatshop, they wouldn't have any job.
In every study I've seen, and Ross Perot covered this in the mid-90s, it made the standard of living in Mexico go down, standard of living in Brazil go down, standard of living in Indonesia go down.
No.
It makes it go down.
It does not make it go up.
And it makes our standard go down.
It's just, this globalization, the way they're doing it is killing everything.
Rusty in Texas, you're on the air with John Perkins.
Go ahead.
Hello?
Yes, go ahead.
Thank you for taking my call.
Yes, sir.
I just took Texas government this last year and they talked about this thing called creative destruction.
And creative destruction is supposed to be like a business gets so big that eventually it collapses within itself and goes broke.
Or the people quit buying the products because they just get tired of it.
But I don't see how it can be fair to go and bail these companies out, basically giving them a new deal.
Because capitalism itself is like a live and let die kind of way of living, you know, because one man's loss is another man's gain.
This is crony capitalism, and it's been said many times, where the risk is socialized, the profit is privatized, so it's not really capitalism.
John Perkins.
Yeah, no, I totally agree with you.
That's why I say it's what I'm calling a mutant form of capitalism, where it's all balanced in favor of a few very, very wealthy and powerful people.
But we need to turn that around, and we can do that.
It's like going to a casino where you never win.
It's totally rigged.
Yeah, yeah.
But only because we allow it to be rigged.
We can stop it.
I'm not saying it's going to be easy, but we can do it.
Well, we better, because they're just feeding the whole world into their debt black hole.
Ronnie in Texas.
Go ahead, you're on the air with John Perkins.
Upcoming book?
Hoodwinked.
Go ahead.
Perkins, I lived for nine months.
in poverty-ridden Peru under US puppet Toledo and it dawned on me there that would not absolute freedom, and I'm asking you, absolute freedom worldwide for farmers help cancel all continually counterproductive
Uh, wars on behalf of illegal drug warlords that we're waging in Mexico, Colombia, Peru, Afghanistan, all over the world.
You're asking how is the phony drug war?
Boy, I loved watching General Myers on TV last night explain how the occupation made the opium production go way up.
That's a good final comment from John Perkins.
John?
Yeah, I mean the farmers around the world have really been hit hard.
They've been hit hard by what we call free trade agreements.
It's absurd today that a Mexican farmer can produce cotton a lot more cheaply than a U.S.
farmer, but you can buy a U.S.-produced cotton in Mexico for a lot less of a price than Mexican cotton, simply because it's so subsidized in the United States for the big industry that this has hurt the small farmer time and time again, whether it's cotton or corn or soybeans or whatever it is.
The small farmer has been very, very screwed.
And a lot of these people are now what we call terrorists, because they've lost their farm.
They have no way of feeding their family.
And so they become part of organizations that are fanatical because they don't know what else to do.
Yeah, in Mexico, they'll just let you go die.
In Mexico City, just die in your hut.
No welfare system.
It's just hellish.
Well, the new book's coming out, and we're going to interview you the day after it comes out, November 11th, coming up in a month and a half or so.
John Perkins, best-selling author of Confessions of an Economic Hitman.
It was great having you on.
We'll talk to you again soon, my friend.
My pleasure, Alex.
Keep up your good work.
You too.
Appreciate you being on with us.
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