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	Big Brother, Mainstream Media, Government Cover-Ups.
	You want answers?
	Well, so does he.
	He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
	And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
	It is December 23rd, 2008.
	We're going to be live here for the next four hours.
	And who do we have joining us?
	Well, briefly in the next hour, the founder of levies.org, Sandy Rosenthal, who's been protesting the bad job the federal government did of constructing and maintaining the levies and the terrible job they did once the levies failed.
	But the main reason she's going to be on with us is that she had the Army Corps of Engineers countering her covertly on the internet in a military propaganda campaign.
	This ties into a larger picture of government propaganda going on against the American people on the web.
	Then, Detective John Carroll, New Jersey detective, 9-11 first responder, is going to be joining us.
	He's talking about quitting his job, being a detective for 15 years alone, over the fact that his department will not investigate the evidence of 9-11 being an inside job.
	And then tied in with that is Luke Rudowsky, founder of We Are Change that's spread worldwide.
	They now have the FBI harassing him down at Ground Zero and around New York City.
	And then on top of that we have Robert K. Wilcox, author of Target Patent.
	The London Telegraph reported on declassified information and of course declassified diaries in an interview with the assassin.
	But we already knew from military sources that General George S. Patton was assassinated, namely because right at about 12,000, if you want to be technical,
	Eleven and a half plus thousand US troops were in German prisoner of war camps that got liberated, in quotes, by the communist Russians, the Stalinist Russians, and they wanted their intel.
	They wanted to pick the brain of the army airmen, of the army forces themselves, of some of the Marines, and they wanted them for slave labor as well, so they took them.
	To Siberia.
	And, you know, U.S.
	troops were mixed in with the Russians at this time and witnessed it and got very upset.
	And Patton, who'd already been criticized for, during the war, trying rescue missions for U.S.
	and British troops in prisoner of war camps that were close to the lines when they were in German hands, just couldn't believe it.
	And so he started raising a ruckus over that, so they killed him better than a hammer.
	And that has now come out.
	And even the London Telegraph is convinced of the documents and the evidence.
	You don't normally see them come out and state something's on the record.
	Also, you know, Gulf of Tonkin is now admitted to have been a staged terror attack.
	Thousands of hours of presidential tapes have been released between McNamara and Johnson.
	I had listened to scores of hours of it and thought that I'd heard it all.
	I had heard the part of the tapes after they'd staged it, when McNamara was saying, okay, we've staged it, and Johnson saying, okay, what do I say, what do I do?
	I hadn't heard, because it was 3,000 hours released, what, in 2004.
	Frankly, I can't listen to all of it.
	Finally, folks have listened to it.
	More stuff's come out the day before they stage it.
	They talk about how they're going to stage it.
	And so the press, when the folks came across the tapes that we heard and others heard, were thinking the military had staged it and then basically told Johnson to tag along.
	Now the tapes have surfaced, people have listened to it all, and or we hope all of it, we have no way of knowing.
	I stayed up several nights listening just to find the stuff I did find.
	Well there's there's more now and we're gonna be playing that Gulf of Tonkin
	As well today.
	So big show, Sandy Rosenthal, Detective John Carroll, Luke Rudowsky, Robert K. Wilcox, author of Target Patent.
	It's all coming up today right here on the Alex Jones Show, Monday through Friday from 11 a.m.
	to 3 p.m.
	Central Standard Time.
	We come back for an abbreviated transmission Sundays 4 to 6 p.m.
	Don't forget the free podcast at InfoWars.com.
	Big Brother, Mainstream Media, Government Cover-Ups.
	You want answers?
	Well, so does he.
	He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
	And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
	You know, in the past I have done radio broadcasts about parasites in the human body.
	And since we got indoor plumbing, and since we got more sanitation and began washing our hands, by the 1930s we saw many types of infectious diseases, parasitical and of other types, plunge.
	In fact, with the advent a decade later of mass vaccination, we saw actually a rebound in many of the viral and bacterial infections.
	So most of what we see in reductions of infections and sickness was due to cleanliness, due to washing our clothes, due to not defecating out back the house in a privy.
	into not having sewage running down the middle of the street.
	You know, that's how they used to do it.
	What you don't see in the old Western movies is, you know, that the streets were filled with cow manure and horse manure, pig manure and chicken manure, and then human manure dumped out of buckets onto the streets.
	You know, South Korea is one of the most industrialized nations in the world and the most internet connected.
	In the world, probably the most technological country next to Japan, but they still in many cities dump their feces out of the front of their house.
	You know, I hate to be gross about all this, but we have a lot of third world populations moving to the United States, and I know that there were no leprosy cases until, what, 2004, and the Associated Press and World Daily both reported 7,000
	Plus wet leprosy, that means transferable communicable leprosy cases in 2005.
	I haven't checked the numbers since then.
	I know the highly communicable drug resistant or drug immune TB is spreading all over the world, killing tens of thousands of Americans a year again, but the media won't basically advertise this to the public other than hyping up somebody flying on an airplane like it's the lone case and they're so concerned.
	I know a lot of people, because I've talked to some of the neurosurgeons, some of the brain surgeons here in town, and it's the talk amongst the medical community of several classes of worms eating people's brains.
	And the public is always in denial about this.
	You know, it's kind of like there's a certain type of maggot, certain type of larval fly that does eat live meat.
	And, you know, the screw worm is just one of a whole class of them.
	And the screw worm, where they basically tie down the World War II Korean and Vietnam vets in Kansas City at one big VA.
	It was in the Kansas City Star a bunch and some other VAs in Michigan, I saw, in New York.
	That this particular fly goes up the nose and lays eggs in the sinus and then maggots eat the brain.
	And every time I say that, people post it on YouTube, the audio, and then all say I'm a liar.
	Oh, okay, if you don't know how to Google, uh, veterans die in hospital of maggots, then I can't help you.
	Now, uh, yeah, I mean, if you want to just say I'm making that up, go ahead.
	But it'd be better to just clean up the VA with the rats and the flies and all the rest of it.
	Yes, it's true that most fly larva varieties do not eat live flesh.
	But they can go into scrofulous tissue and cause a larger infection.
	Some of the deaths with the flies entering the sinus were of varieties not known to eat live flesh.
	Now you're saying, why am I getting into this?
	I have all this other important news here in front of me.
	Well, you know, I have a Fox News report, I have a BBC News report.
	It's finally hitting the news, but they won't tell you what this is.
	These are imported pigs out of Mexico.
	Because in Mexico, they feed the pigs on fresh human feces.
	I know you don't like to hear that, but you should know what you're eating.
	Now it's true, if you feed a pig healthily, and you feed it fresh slop, you know, watermelon rinds and things like that, you know, trash out of the house when it's fresh, and you worm the pigs, the hogs, you can eat them.
	But you know what?
	I've cut back over the years eating meat, you know, regardless of the way the system is now.
	I'll still eat a big beefsteak occasionally.
	But I'm just never eating pork again.
	I was eating a pork from this Cuban restaurant down the street.
	Pork sandwich.
	I just had a bad feeling eating it.
	And you know, because I know, I mean, you know, there's a reason the Bible, people make fun of it, but there's a reason Leviticus, where the law says wash your hands.
	And it says, don't eat pig, don't eat pork, because not just the Trichinosis worm, there's a bunch of other worms, and pigs are very similar to us.
	Most zoological infestations can't transfer from other animals to humans, but with pigs, they readily do.
	Okay, that's the big issue here, if you study zoological infestations.
	People will keep living in denial about this.
	There are thousands of cases of this a year alone.
	And the media knew that in the report.
	They just talk about, well, this particular brain surgeon's seen, you know, four or five of these this year, and all his colleagues have seen them, too.
	Well, yeah.
	And they're killing people.
	So, without further ado, this is what becoming a third world nation means.
	And, I mean, if you take for granted
	Okay?
	Not having liver flukes or not having brain worms, then go ahead and laugh at me and let's just have everybody from the third world in here.
	Now, I don't blame them wanting to come here.
	You know, I happen to know that around 10% of the children in Mexico City die of parasites by age 5.
	I happen to know that one-third of the children born in Mexico City are born with one particular disorder of having a tiny fractional brain.
	Their brain's about 6, 7, 8% of its normal size.
	They're complete vegetables.
	The children just die.
	That's all the toxic waste from the U.S.
	being dumped down there, and that's a great crime.
	I'm just telling you folks that that's what we're turning into here and so well I mean here it is the brain-eating worms mainstream news.
	Rosemary Alvarez savors every minute with her kids.
	Playing ball and laughing for this mom each day with them is a gift after coming too close to death last August.
	I thought I had the flu.
	I started feeling tired.
	But within days, this soccer coach and PTA president knew it wasn't the flu.
	I started feeling numbness in my left arm.
	Blurred vision.
	I'm still smiling for my kids, but now I can't get out of bed.
	Two trips to the ER solved nothing.
	CAT scan came back normal, no problem.
	But her husband, George, was scared.
	She couldn't eat.
	She could barely walk to the bathroom.
	So I knew at that point
	You know, she was deteriorating really quick.
	It all came to a head on the first day of school as their kids aged 9 through 17 headed back to the classroom.
	Their mom was in an ambulance headed to Barrow Neurological Hospital after an MRI explained those strange symptoms.
	It came back, you have a brain tumor.
	At that exact moment where my heart fell
	Just completely all the way down.
	But the news would get worse.
	Neurosurgeon Dr. Peter Nakaji.
	Once we saw the MRI we realized this is not good.
	It's something down in her brain stem which is as deep into the brain as you can be.
	George broke the news to the kids.
	It was a rough day because it was the first day of school and they came home with all their stuff from school and all the stuff to sign and look what I got from my teacher and where's mom and what's mom.
	Well, mom's in the hospital and this is what happened.
	As Rosemary waited for surgery, she worried.
	Oh my God, we just canceled our insurance like three weeks ago and now this happens.
	And mostly, how are we going to pay for this?
	And she prayed.
	It's okay, God.
	If you're going to take me, take me, but make sure my kids are good.
	By the time the surgery got underway, all those PTA moms and neighbors, her kids,
	They were all praying too.
	My girlfriend, she goes, everybody's calling and saying they're praying for you, they're praying for you.
	Church, they're going to church and they're having the mass pray for you.
	Power of prayer.
	That's what I told them.
	Power of
	It worked.
	Dr. Nakaji was expecting to find a brain tumor.
	He showed me the video as he operated on Rosemary's brain, carefully working, knowing this is the most dangerous spot in the human body to work next to.
	The brain stem.
	Here's the lump.
	And at this point, it still looks like a brain tumor.
	And so we're just opening up into the inside.
	And then, the unexpected.
	No tumor.
	Instead, a worm.
	Watch as Dr. Nikaji grabs the worm and gently tugs it out of Rosemary's brain.
	It's still alive.
	You don't hear him on the tape, but Nikaji actually chuckles.
	Which I'm sure is a very strange response for the people in the operating room, but because I was so pleased to know that it wasn't going to be something terrible.
	This worm comes from eating undercooked pork, but more frighteningly, it can be spread by people who have the parasite in their bodies
	And don't wash their hands well after using the bathroom.
	That is the problem.
	And it only takes one person who is spreading it constantly to get a lot of people exposed.
	And some of those people are going to go on to develop this problem.
	It's impossible to pinpoint exactly when Rosemary contracted this brain worm.
	Probably she was one of these very unfortunate people who
	Had somebody handle food for her, that she ingested it and it got to her brain.
	What is normally a rare occurrence has become much more common.
	Dr. Nakaji has removed five of them in the past few months and other doctors at Barrow, they're seeing more of them too.
	I think it could be a fluke, but it does concern me that
	If we see more and more cases, as one person is infected and starts to spread these, it spreads it to other people who become infected and then they spread it.
	Alright, stay there.
	Let's come back.
	Now, a lot of times these kill you.
	Now, do they tell you in this newscast where it's coming from?
	Absolutely not.
	Our precious little neighbor to the south.
	The unions are big businessmen and they're going out like a dinosaur.
	They used to grow food in Kansas.
	That's right!
	The police all over the nation are viciously raiding and CPS kidnapping Amish and Mennonite children.
	They're arresting Amish and Mennonites for selling each other milk.
	They're arresting people for selling eggs.
	People that have watermelon stands.
	But you want to ship a bunch of pigs in here full of brain-eating worms, you go ahead and you do it.
	It's all part of the curse of evil.
	There's nothing even mystical about it.
	You got a society of a backstabbing, greedy scum that only care about themselves, but nobody cares about anybody else, and everything goes to hell in a handbasket.
	It's simple.
	Who wants to live in a world like that?
	You know, I mean, I have never wantonly cheated or screwed somebody.
	Even when people have done things bad to me, I have restraint doing things back bad to them.
	Because I've found the
	Providence, what the Greeks call that, the Logos, what comes around goes around, reap what you sow, that evil comes back on those that do evil, and so I fear God.
	I fear the Spirit of the universe, righteousness,
	But it's more than that.
	I don't do good because I even fear God.
	That's only one level of it.
	It's because I am trying to be a good person.
	I am walking in goodness.
	Does that mean I don't flux back and forth into evil?
	No, I'm a fallen creature.
	But I know what feels right in my soul.
	I know what my conscience tells me is good.
	I know the dark, volcanic, festian
	Founts of evil.
	I know what that side is like.
	I've experienced the dark side.
	And it just can't even hold a candle.
	Pun intended to the light.
	But I don't seek after the light because it's great power.
	I seek after goodness because it is what fulfills me, it is what I was meant from the formation of my soul in my mother's womb to forever be with.
	It is what I'm attracted to.
	Well, the world is in darkness thrall.
	It is held in the sway of the wicked.
	You cannot deny that.
	And so you're gonna have worms eat your brains and you're going to live in denial about it.
	I mean there are people on these BBC and Fox News clips saying it's not true.
	There's people saying there aren't trichinosis worms in pork and so one guy will pour alcohol or coca-cola
	Whatever.
	The reason Coca-Cola does that is it has carbon dioxide on it and the worms can't breathe.
	They put a little snout up.
	That's why they swim out of the raw pork.
	Pork cuts.
	It's not pork sausage.
	That chops them up.
	Unless it's their eggs.
	And so, you know, one group, there's thousands of these tests on YouTube, hundreds of millions of views.
	It's got to be because there's thousands of these videos.
	Some of them have millions of views.
	Tens of millions, bare minimum.
	And it shows people pouring coke or alcohol, whatever keeps oxygen from them, on these big slabs of pork steaks, and out come the worms.
	And people are going, oh, that's fake!
	There's no worms in there!
	There's comments like, the government wouldn't allow that!
	Hey, jackass!
	Let me tell you something, okay?
	People are dying in every major town, and even small towns, every day.
	Tens of thousands die of drug-resistant TB every year.
	And it's growing exponentially.
	We got leprosy now in this country.
	And we got brain-eating worms all over the place, and that's only one of hundreds of different types of parasites.
	So we all need to be dewormed, especially when we're eating fast food prepared by third world people.
	Because it isn't just enough that it comes in in the third world pork.
	There's some parasites in chicken.
	That isn't bad enough.
	It's that the third world people, they are host for it, and they don't wipe their hands properly, and they come and put your taco together, or your hamburger together, or your hot dog together, or your dinner together, and then you eat that, and then you die.
	And by the way, most of the time, the worms end up dying in your brain, and then you...
	Get diagnosed with Parkinson's or, you know, they say you had brain tumors and then they don't identify that it's the worms.
	They're covering up the worms.
	I've been telling you about them for a decade.
	I remember back in, what was it, 1997?
	Thousands of U.S.
	school children.
	I believe it was 6,000.
	I'm going from memory.
	Got hepatitis from berries.
	Strawberries, raspberries.
	Bought in bulk by the U.S.
	school lunch program.
	The feds bought it in bulk.
	It had all been sprayed in fresh, not processed, human feces.
	And then it was frozen shortly out of the fields and then brought and then unfrozen with the, you know, fresh hepatitis for the children and nothing happened.
	They have multi-billion dollar funds to quietly pay that off.
	Then their answer is, well, we'll just vaccinate all of you with a deadly smallpox or excuse me, you know, hepatitis vaccine that will keep you safe from all of this.
	It's the same story.
	Oh, the estrogen mimicking endocrine disruptors leaching out of the plastic instead of changing the plastic we use for everything.
	There's hundreds of different mixtures that don't leach it.
	We just so happen to accidentally choose the one that does.
	I'm sure it's an accident.
	Everything seems to sterilize.
	Instead of, you know, taking that out, that hurts our boys and girls.
	When our boys and girls have hormone problems, you know, when five-year-old girls go into puberty or boys basically turn into women, they say, oh, we'll just give you hormones to fix it, to mask the other hormones that are leeching out of the plastics.
	And, oh, we won't tell you to not eat pork.
	We won't tell you to have a ban on imported pork out of Mexico filled with trichinosis, as if it's not here now.
	No, we'll just let you have brain surgery.
	And, you know, it'll go to your brain stem, and if she'd waited a few more days, it'd have killed her.
	You know, now she has trouble standing and walking, and, you know, her head's numb, but
	You know, there's no discussion of why she got a brain eating worm.
	Finish up the end of that clip.
	We were right at the end.
	Let's finish the last part of that clip.
	So that more people are at least at risk.
	Meantime, George and Rosemary are stunned, relieved, and a bit creeped out by it all.
	It could have ate holes in her brain like an apple.
	This whole part of my head, from here to here, it's numb.
	I just learned to live with it.
	Rosemary shows off the scars.
	I had to learn to walk, to balance.
	But Rosemary says the most important thing she learned is how to really live.
	I was so busy in life with everything else and sometimes telling my kid, okay I'll be right there, I'll be right there, or hold on, and no I can't right now, or no I'm coming, I'll be right there.
	I'm not gonna miss a moment that we
	Tell me what's on your mind.
	It strengthened us again because we almost lost everything.
	Everything fell apart.
	When she was gone, everything fell apart.
	My kids saw how important their mother was in the house because even they were starting to take mom for granted.
	We pulled her out of the whole system and everything just crumbled.
	They hope everyone learned something from this story so no one else has to go through what Rosemary did.
	Wash your hands.
	Wash your hands.
	You know, wash your hands.
	I mean, what a nice lady and, you know, what a sweet story and absolutely, you know, family is first and it is important and we shouldn't get caught up in TV and football and the sick beast culture and all the distractions and fashion.
	But at the same time, you should be angry.
	You should ask, why are there brain-eating worms spreading all over?
	You know, one hospital is now seeing them everywhere.
	People coming in in droves with brain-eating worms.
	And people are posting on the story that it's not true.
	They are willfully in denial.
	Just like when the mainstream news admits, yes, we're setting up world government.
	We've been setting it up covertly.
	It is tyrannical.
	And people then go into the Times of London, the Financial Times of London article and post comments saying it isn't real.
	Because they believe in magical thinking.
	They believe that if they just say that it doesn't exist, it doesn't.
	And they're following an older version, an older download.
	You know, kind of like a Windows 98.
	Of the New World Order, where it doesn't exist, you're insane if it says it exists, there's no such thing as world government.
	I mean, I remember Limbaugh 15 years ago saying the CFR didn't exist.
	Now he'll say, oh, they don't run anything, it's just a debating club.
	But how many of you out there, raise your hands, I see hands going up everywhere.
	Everybody I know who was a, you know, mainline talk radio listener heard him say, does not exist.
	Sean Hannity plays helicopters in the background.
	Says it doesn't exist still.
	It's a sick joke is what it is, ladies and gentlemen.
	By the way, we're going to be going live at 1220 today after our first guest is on the show.
	We're going to be going live after Sandy Rosenthal is on with us today.
	And then from
	20 into the next hour to the end of the hour before our next guest joins us, New Jersey Detective 9-11 First Responder, Detective John Carroll.
	I want to try to do some justice live on PrisonPlanet.tv with a Building 7 special report.
	Now, I just decided to do this this morning, and the problem is that there are literally hundreds of clips.
	And right now we're trying to assemble just five or six that we have in the constraints, uh, you know, dealing with time.
	So right now, uh, why do I bring this up?
	There has been a big new development, a huge development on the Building 7 case.
	And so often these big developments, but this is one of the biggest, if not the biggest ever.
	This rival Silverstein, Hidden in Plain View, 2002, America Rebuilds, actor Spacey up there narrating it, saying that they made the decision to pull the building and then gave the order and watched it come down.
	And pull it means imploded, controlled demolition.
	And then we have all these other firefighters and police on mainstream news saying, get back.
	We're bringing the building down.
	They're going to blow it up.
	Then we have all these firefighters and police at EMTs on record separate who were there and heard the countdown to blow up Building 7.
	Then we have all the witnesses who heard it on CBS and ABC Radio.
	I heard it because I was going to get a pizza.
	I'd been on air from 9 a.m.
	in the morning after it happened until 2 o'clock when my show went off and then I
	Ran to Mr. Gaddy's to get a pizza.
	And I remember flipping around between local news stations, Texas news stations at
	5 o'clock in the afternoon when they blew it up.
	It was 4.30 something here in Central.
	And I remember hearing them going, now the Solomon Brothers, Building 7, they don't want to damage other buildings, so they're going to have a controlled demolition of the building.
	And I've begged listeners that work at CBS Radio News at the time, I know that's now basically defunct, ABC News, radio, it's still around.
	People heard it on NPR, I didn't hear that, others reported it.
	You'll find those tapes.
	I don't have the energy, the time, the staff.
	Well, people have found some more of that stuff.
	I'm just going to leave it at that until later in the next hour.
	Radio, TV, you name it.
	Folks, they blew the thing up.
	I mean, they said they blew it up on TV.
	They said they're going to blow it up, and then they blew the thing up, and then you could ask why they blew it up all day long.
	The point is they then lied about it and said they didn't blow it up, and there needs to be a major investigation about this.
	And every time we bring out a new video, you know, we post right off America Rebuilds VHS tape, bought from PBS, the clip of Silverstein saying they blew up Building 7, and people at first said we were lying, it was a fake video.
	We show videos of cops saying, get back, we're bringing the building down, they're blowing it up, people say it's fake.
	Then later they're forced to admit it's real.
	And then try to poo-poo it.
	Then we have the BBC reporting on two different BBC channels, the exact same minute, the exact same words, the same script.
	See, when it's simultaneous on BBC 24 and BBC World, when it's simultaneous, same minute, on the two BBC channels, the news channels, simultaneously saying the exact same words.
	It wasn't one reporter screwing up.
	We said somebody gave them
	Script early if it's BBC it was probably Reuters Reuters is basically run by mi6 and CIA Two years after that the BBC admits that Reuters did give them the mistake that the building had fallen in its own footprint 25 minutes early Now CNN and Fox also reported the same thing they were all getting the same false scripting feed that is confirmed and
	That is on record for anybody that cares.
	And I just start thinking about just how hardcore this is.
	I, uh, I was so upset by this last night when I saw this latest clip.
	That I tried to go to bed at like 10 because I've been under the weather and I roll around in bed for hours.
	So I got up, did more research for hour after hour.
	Didn't think to do a special till this morning.
	And, um, I just started thinking about just how evil the people are that run our society.
	I mean, they really did carry out the attacks.
	They really did stage 9-11.
	I mean, it's a fact.
	They really did do this.
	And God knows what they'll do next.
	I mean, we know they're financially robbing us and looting us with financial terrorism, stealing $8.5 trillion in eight weeks and counting.
	We don't know in the last two weeks what else they've stolen.
	You know, that's the latest numbers.
	They just don't care about society.
	They'll let pork in filled with worms that eats the public's brains.
	They'll let tuberculosis spread everywhere.
	They'll put sodium fluoride in the water.
	They'll put mercury in the shots and tell the public with total disdain and contempt that mercury is good for your brains.
	And the public will sit there begging for it, saying, yes, we want to believe the lie.
	We want to believe the government.
	We want to go along with whatever you say and with whatever you do.
	And this newest clip has just completely and totally blown me away.
	Because it's just confirmed over and over and over and over and over and over again that the federal government blew up Building 7.
	It was a spook-based CIA, FBI all based in it.
	And the FBI and the local New York cops, they all know their bosses did it, and most of them still just keep their mouths shut because they're scared for their jobs.
	Hell, we don't have any future with people like this in control if you don't speak out and get involved.
	And I just don't even know what to say anymore.
	I mean, we're in deep, deep trouble.
	Because it's not a big deal for governments to kill 3,000 of their own people, and they do that throughout history.
	But to do it in such a spectacular, arrogant, over-the-top fashion just shows amazing will.
	Amazing will.
	So, we've got a big announcement on Building 7 coming up at the bottom of the next hour, maybe earlier, if they're able to get all the clips.
	Do you guys have all the video clips I sent you in there?
	Is that all going well?
	Because we're on the clock.
	Are you getting all those clips that were sent to you?
	So you were already aware of it?
	Okay, I'm just having to direct from in here.
	And that's the problem.
	There's hundreds of these, and I want to play some of the previous clips and some of the key evidence of Building 7 first, and then get to the new clip.
	Clips.
	Because it's just all taken together.
	There is no doubt.
	And then people go, okay, well they blew up Building 7.
	Big deal, they had to do it to save other buildings.
	Oh, while it's on fire, they go in and they plant all these explosives to blow up a 47-story building that would take weeks for top companies to do, and then most companies couldn't do it with this precision.
	They tried to blow up the big computer building they built here in Austin a decade ago.
	That they never finished because of the dot-com bust.
	And it was only, what, a 10-story building, and they had a company out there for months, and when they tried to detonate it and blow the building up, they couldn't even do it.
	It didn't even fall, because that happens about a third of the time.
	But not Building 7, that was done with total, free-fall, symmetrical precision.
	A very professional job.
	Brought to you by the folks that can shoot cruise missiles down the chimney, or land a tiny spacecraft on the moon, or
	Land F-18s on the deck of a carrier.
	Yeah, that's who it was brought to you by.
	Wasn't brought to you by guys in a cave on walkie-talkies, I'll assure you of that.
	And it was done to wage war on you so they could have the financial theft they're having now, and that's only one of the latest salvos of many to come.
	So I'm sorry to have to
	Report this to you, but when you're in a society run by evil, there's no end to it.
	Once you decide nobody else counts, once you decide you're out for number one and that's all that matters, once you decide you'll cut any corners, well everybody else starts doing that and you fall apart like North Korea or Mexico.
	And that's what's happening to the United States.
	The wages of sin are death.
	The penalty for sin is death.
	And you can say, again, cut religion out of it.
	What is sin?
	Sin is cheating somebody.
	Sin is lying.
	Sin is doing things that are bad for your body.
	You smoke three packs of cigarettes a day, you're going to get lung cancer.
	You go out and you have a bunch of sexual partners with other promiscuous people, you're going to get diseases.
	You go out and you eat pork, you've got a good chance of getting worms, getting parasites.
	Well, you let government run all over you and tell you it's God, they're gonna rob the hell out of you.
	They're gonna hurt you real bad.
	Crashing through the lies and disinformation.
	It's Alex Jones, only on the GCN Radio Network.
	That's what we do.
	We crash the lies and disinformation.
	That's why I come and teleprobe.
	Oh, there's no doubt.
	We are the number one attacked free media organization in the world.
	We are under attack from a thousand different sources 24-7 and we appreciate that because that curse turns into a blessing as more people check out InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.
	PrisonPlanet.com and InfoWars.com are also some of the most censored websites on the web and government filters, private corporate filters, so please remember that and continue to spread the word.
	About InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.
	Again, coming up in 30 minutes, we're going to get into the latest Building 7 development, and yes, I'm building it up because I want people to take this seriously as it really is.
	I mean, I catch myself now, I hear about some new president getting an implantable chip, or movie stars all getting implantable chips, or I
	You know, read about things like that.
	And I'm like, oh, I've been covering that for 13 years.
	It's not a big deal.
	As prisons move to make prisoners take it, as groups, as insurance companies move to make Alzheimer's patients take it, as not dozens or hundreds, but thousands of clubs and bars and exclusive resorts make you get a chip.
	As the inventor of some of the top video games.
	Comes out and says that the next wave of consoles, you'll have an implantable chip to, you know, play your World of Warcraft or whatever.
	People are going to do it.
	Just as the enemy said they would use fads and security to drive it.
	See, now I should be speaking out against the chip like ever before, but I don't even talk about it anymore.
	You ever hear me talk about implantable chips anymore?
	Maybe every two or three months I talk about it.
	Because I've talked about it and talked about it and talked about it, back when everybody laughed at me and said it wasn't coming, when I had Pentagon documents, like the January 7, 2000, Army War College declassified 1985 document where they talked about how they would implant the general public by 2015 with chips, 2025 with brain chips by law, and how they would use fads to drive it.
	I mean, you can't make that stuff up, but there it is happening.
	Same thing with this Building 7 business.
	I mean, now the evidence is so overwhelming, so over the top, that I believe even getting into the physical bombs in the buildings and ThermAid and the fact that it couldn't collapse, I mean, that's all fine and dandy physical evidence.
	What about all of the eyewitnesses, the police, the firemen?
	They need grand juries to subpoena them.
	Of course, the feds will kill them as fast as you subpoena them.
	You've got to put them in protective custody.
	Of course, the feds are the ones doing that, so they'll give them an FBI ride to hell, like they gave Terrence Yankee, an Oklahoma City cop of the year, when they tortured him to death, to find out who else knew stuff.
	The point is, we got all these firemen and police on video talking about the bombs and that the building was blown up.
	And I've gone and interviewed many of them myself.
	You know, we'll pick a fireman or a cop out, find out who they are, we'll go to New York, interview them, put them on the show, do video, and the debunkers just go, oh, that guy's a liar!
	Doesn't matter if we have deputy fire chiefs and fire chiefs and deputy emergency managers and police on video saying, get back, they're blowing it up, or Silverstein saying it, they're still in denial.
	But more and more clips are surfacing.
	And I know I heard those clips on 9-11.
	Well, some of those clips I heard, some of those clips I saw.
	You have now dug them out.
	Dig them all out before they shut the web down.
	We've got to expose what these bastards did with 9-11 if we're going to save this society.
	Now,
	Get our guest on at 5 after.
	I want to come back and finish up with this, and then Building 7 coming up in about 30 minutes.
	And then we've got a bunch of other important guests today, thanks to the great work of my producer, Aaron Dykes.
	A lot of the producers away.
	We've got Target Patton, the U.S.
	government's murder of Patton coming up, and a lot more.
	Big Brother, Mainstream Media, Government Cover-Ups.
	You want answers?
	Well, so does he.
	He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
	And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
	In one hour we have Detective John Carroll joining us, New Jersey Detective 9-11 first responder, then we've got Luke Radowski with the FBI harassing We Are Change now in New York, and Robert K. Wilcox, author of Target Patent, U.S.
	government colluded with the Soviets, the NKVD, to kill
	George S. Patton, we already knew that, but now they've got the diaries, the eyewitnesses, it's admitted.
	The London Telegraph even comes right out and says it's conclusive evidence.
	He didn't want 12,000 U.S.
	And why?
	soldiers turned over to the Soviets to be worked to death and tortured.
	But what did Kissinger, Henry Kissinger, who even at the time was an aide to
	A top aide to General Dwight D. Eisenhower and a member of the OSS at a very young age, along with David Rockefeller.
	Now they go way back, those two boys.
	Military people are dumb animals to be used and basically killed as cannon fodder.
	So see, yeah, 12,000 farm boys, city boys from Detroit, Michigan, the plains of central Texas.
	Let them die!
	Our Soviet buds want them.
	Let them have them!
	And Patton, you don't like it?
	Die, sucker!
	We're the U.S.
	Filthbag.
	We're here to destroy America, but as long as we wrap ourselves in a flag, you'll love it.
	The same kind of people blew up Building 7, and they think it's real funny.
	They think it's real funny.
	Oh yeah, they'd leave 12,000 US POWs in German camps captured by the Soviets.
	They'd let them be sent off to be worked to death and tortured and killed.
	But they wouldn't kill 3,000 of you.
	No, they'd love you.
	The government loves you.
	I am not going to belabor this.
	I'm just going to let you know it's available.
	A word to the wise is sufficient.
	Every time Ted gets any Buffalos, he lets you know about it.
	These are the U.S.
	Mint coins that they've sold out of and they're saying they may not even make any more.
	We know they made a finite amount in 2007-2008.
	These are 2008 coins.
	There's only 50 of them.
	And they're at the same price they were two weeks ago when gold was over $100 less than it is now.
	Ted's just passing it on with the great position.
	He bought these two weeks ago.
	They just now came in.
	So 50 gold Buffalos first come first serve at the price of this show.
	But you've got to tell them it's the radio offer.
	800-686-2237.
	And yes, he bought gold at $770 about a week and a half ago.
	It's $830, $840 right now.
	Up quite a bit.
	British sovereign gold coins at $252 apiece.
	Those are uncirculated, by the way, just incredible value.
	Anne Frank's at $2.03.
	Most of those are uncirculated as well.
	They have Walking Liberty half dollars at $8.40 apiece, another great deal on silver, half dollars.
	You really can't beat those deals.
	But the Buffaloes...
	We'll go quickly, so I recommend you call on those.
	Quite a deal.
	They're all great deals, but the Buffalos are just such a handsome coins.
	You're getting them pretty much at melt with the collectible value on top of.
	This is the prettiest coin.
	This is personally my favorite coin.
	800-686-2237.
	800-686-2237.
	In fact, I sent one of these to Charlie Sheen about a month ago.
	There's a present for his new child coming along.
	Again, 800-686-2237.
	800-686-2237.
	Call today, ladies and gentlemen.
	Brokers will be there all night.
	From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.
	It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
	Sandy Rosenthal, the founder of Levees Done ORG, is our guest, and she had a run-in, repeatedly,
	And they checked the IP addresses first, the handles, and then the IP addresses of the Army Corps of Engineers going on, encountering them, attacking them.
	Criticizing U.S.
	citizens.
	Now, whether you're for or against what the Army Corps did, or whether you want to blame the feds or the state, I believe there's blame to go all around, particularly the feds cutting communication lines and blocking aid so they could run everything, and then claim that they needed more funding and power later, that was really what happened.
	Problem, reaction, solution.
	Regardless, that's not the issue here.
	It's that the military is out propagandizing against the American people more and more these days, and they admit that they are doing this.
	And they're quite proud of this.
	CENTCOM, NORTHCOM, and it's all part of the White House buying fake news, propaganda packages, and that's going to continue under Obama.
	So I wanted to get her on for just 15-20 minutes or so.
	We appreciate Sandy Rosenthal from levies.org coming on with us.
	Sandy, out of the gates, tell us a little bit about the organization and now what you're going through.
	Well, we are, levies.org, the only organization in America trying to focus attention on the fact that
	What happened here in New Orleans, we were not destroyed by a hurricane.
	It was a flood that ravaged the city.
	And the reality of this is an engineering failure, the worst in the world since Chernobyl.
	And the Corps of Engineers is by federal law responsible for that flood protection.
	But right after the storm, a disinformation campaign started where the U.S.
	Army Corps authorized a million dollar grant
	For engineering societies to go out and do a traveling PR show.
	We discovered this in a FOIA request.
	You've also got the fact that the U.S.
	Army Corps investigated their own work after the flooding.
	You investigate yourself, what do you think you're going to find?
	And as for outside peer review of that investigation, the Corps gave them $2 million for it and awarded them with Medals of Honor 18 months before their work was finished.
	But the main message here is that U.S.
	Army Corps of Engineers, from the beginning,
	has been trying to shift blame to the citizens by claiming that the city interfered with their grand plan when that is not the case at all.
	And this is important for your listeners because there's U.S.
	Army Corps levies all over the place in all 50 states and they're in bad condition.
	And finally, and that's why you have me on today, is there's Corps employees using Corps computers posing as average citizens to post information and disrupt legitimate discussions with personal attacks
	Well, it certainly is.
	And again, they're not telling people that the Army Corps of Engineers, they're acting like they're John Q. Public, and they're doing this from government computers.
	And I think it's clearly part of a larger campaign that they're engaged in.
	So specifically, break down what happened and how you caught them and now how they're responding since it made television.
	Sure, I'd be happy to tell you.
	I maintain two blogs.
	And I noticed on both of them, I've been receiving for years, but they've recently stepped up in their frequency, attacks where essentially I am maligned, supporters are maligned, citizens are maligned, and they're trying to rewrite history.
	They're trying to say that local officials, you know, got in the way and blocked the Army Corps' plans for the flood protection.
	And I know this is, I know it's not true.
	I know that they're making up the facts.
	And, as I said, I'm used to them.
	But then, you know, it kind of got into my head, well, gee, let me see.
	You know, it's kind of like looking at caller ID.
	And the IP address is clearly there, visible for anyone that wants to look.
	And so all I did was I took that caller ID, essentially, and plugged it into a program, free, on the internet that anyone can access called whois.net.
	www.whois.net.
	And I plugged in the IP address, that's what it's called in that little box, and up came a military address.
	And that's how it all started.
	And I realized that immediately that something was very wrong.
	Well look, they've been sanctioned to do this on my websites, Infowars.com, PrisonPlanet.com, and others.
	They don't even hide the fact.
	I mean, they come on with their handles, and people can say, well, that's somebody using their handle.
	No.
	Then you go to their Facebook, their Myspace, or their, you know, their Brigade website, whatever.
	They'll be wearing PSYOP patches.
	I mean, they're really mindless thugs.
	They're not even good spies.
	And they will be on there, you know, with all their anti-American rhetoric, their anti-free speech rhetoric, their talk about how they want to cap U.S.
	citizens.
	So really, it's a group of brigands.
	I'm not saying our whole military is like that, but these little special units, they've shifted amongst the detritus and found the particularly nasty blobs and put them into positions of power, and they're just 24-7 attacking basically anybody that criticizes anything that the foreign banks that own our government are doing.
	Well, in this case, in New Orleans, and in just 10 seconds, I'll explain why it's important to know this, but in New Orleans, you've got a federal agency, the U.S.
	Army Corps, responsible for protecting the city, and who let the city down to almost near total destruction, hiding their identities, and posting anonymous comments on news sources, blogs, and forums to cover their tracks, rewrite history, and shift the blame for the flooding away from itself and onto the citizens of New Orleans.
	Now, why is that important to your listeners?
	Because there's levies in all 50 states in bad condition, and the U.S.
	Army Corps, I believe, has a lot at stake here in trying to protect their reputation.
	And your listeners, all they have to do is go to a website that we created called AreWeAtRisk.org.
	AreWeAtRisk.org.
	And all you have to do is type in your zip code, and your listeners can find out if they're at risk at well.
	Well, I mean, obviously flooding happens.
	It's always going to happen.
	And I don't think the Army Corps of Engineers can keep us safe from everything.
	A government big enough to give you anything you want is big enough and will, by the way, always take everything away.
	Alex, I do need to point out we were not flooded by a hurricane.
	We were flooded because of engineering failure.
	I'm not debating that with you.
	I was talking about the rest of the nation, and I was just stating that the people need to talk to their governments about the double set of books, the comprehensive annual financial reports, and say, look, we don't want all that invested in offshore
	Well, I'm going to answer your question and you ask me if that's a good idea and I'm going to tell you what we think.
	That we don't yet know what happened to these levees in New Orleans as long as the investigation was conducted by the organization responsible for its performance.
	Because they're involved for cover-up, sure.
	And I mean, that's a conflict of interest.
	Well, going back, when was the last big flood in New Orleans?
	Because it was admitted then that the Army Corps did blow up the levees that time.
	Okay, there were two floods.
	There was one in 1965, and that's when the federal government came in and decided that it would take over
	Our flood protection.
	And by federal mandate, it took the responsibility for building our levees away from us and gave it to the U.S.
	Army Corps, and that's all outlined in the Flood Control Act of 1965.
	But there was one before that where they did blow up the levee.
	That was, you're talking, I believe, about a flood that occurred in 1927.
	Yeah.
	And that was when the Army Corps came in and said, I mean, I'm sorry, when the Congress came in
	And set up a law, Flood Control Act of 1928, that says if anything goes wrong with an Army Corps of Engineers flood protection project, they cannot be sued.
	Well, I just, but I mean, that's why people think they blew up the levees this time, is because it's on record that the Army did blow up the levees to flow the lower areas instead of the richer areas.
	That did happen.
	I mean, that's admitted.
	What's admitted?
	Oh, you're not aware that they blew up levees back in the 20s?
	Oh, okay.
	I just was asking you what the question was.
	You know, I forget.
	I knew about it, and I saw a PBS show about it, and memory escapes me, but my mother-in-law bought me a Pulitzer Prize winning book that came out two years ago about it, and it's all about the last flood.
	So you're not aware of that.
	Okay.
	The question I was asking you, Alex,
	I'm talking about the previous time.
	I mean, that's why locals think it did happen three years ago.
	It's because it's admitted that it did happen previously.
	I don't know.
	The sound of the levees breaking, and they've reported that it sounded like they were being blown up.
	And that's what you're referring to.
	Yeah, no, but what I'm referring to, I'm just asking you as a poll.
	Are you aware that the Army Corps of Engineers admits they blew up the levees previous to that, 60, 70 years before that?
	Okay.
	I believe that was reported in the book Rising Tide by John Barry.
	Yeah, that's right.
	That was the book Rising Tide.
	But that's not hidden.
	That's not a secret.
	That's correct.
	So, I mean, they blew it up before to flood the poor areas and they admitted that.
	That's correct.
	So that's my point.
	Again, I appreciate you having me on the show.
	I can only tell you what I know.
	And what I know is that members of the Army Corps have hidden their identities.
	They logged on to their office computers and tried to rewrite the history of the flooding in New Orleans.
	And there are U.S.
	Army Corps projects in every single state of this nation, and it's important that you listen and understand that they need to be vigilant in their own part of the country.
	What have they done since you countered them?
	Are they just still... Initially, the U.S.
	Army Corps spokesman issued a statement
	Um, saying, oh, there are 1,600 people at the New Orleans District and, um, it, it, they considered it an isolated incident.
	Keep in mind that we didn't ever say that this flooding, I mean, I mean, that these, uh, these remarks came from the New Orleans District.
	We didn't know where they came from.
	And then three days later, Colonel Alvin Lee, the head of the New Orleans District, issued a personal apology to me.
	Well, that's good.
	Stay there.
	Let's hear more about that and levies on your website when we get back to the organization.
	I think?
	The founder of levies.org, Sandy Rosenthal.
	Sandy, I totally agree with you about the Army Corps and the shoddy workmanship and the rest of it.
	I know there's a disinformation campaign against the locals.
	I know the feds, FEMA, came in and cut the police communications lines.
	That's admitted.
	That's why the cops walked off their job.
	There was no communication.
	I mean, it's not just FEMA and the Army Corps.
	It looks like not caring or being a bunch of buffoons.
	It looks from every angle like it was completely malicious.
	I wonder why.
	There's a whole lot at stake here.
	You have to realize the U.S.
	Army Corps of Engineers has a tremendous amount of power, but in the city of New Orleans, they've had a spectacular failure.
	The whole world saw that failure.
	And so the U.S.
	Army Corps of Engineers is very likely concerned about losing at least some of that power.
	Maybe not all of it, but certainly some of it.
	And you need to know that this started within weeks of the storm.
	The city was not even drained yet, and already the Department of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld, ordered these investigations I spoke of.
	uh... and and and and and had uh... the and with the issue u.s.
	army corps of engineers uh... which i found out before you request are already lined up who would you essentially appear at the campaign for the court i'd spoke a few minutes ago about the traveling slideshow by the american society civil engineers at the court paid for that and uh... in a grant and the and if you listen to it or watch it you can immediately see that it was uh... the that the
	The role of the U.S.
	Army Corps was minimized, and the strength of the storm and the vulnerability of the region was maximized.
	Well, in closing here, how can folks get involved?
	How can they bring justice to this?
	How can we get the levees properly fixed?
	And are you satisfied with the apology from the Colonel?
	Okay, in answer to your last question, are we satisfied?
	We don't
	We know for a fact that there are more than one people at the core, hiding their identities and trying to rewrite the story of the flooding.
	And this Colonel Allen Lee has only admitted that it's the actions of one individual.
	As far as what can your listeners do, the absolute number one best thing they can possibly do is go to www.levees.org
	And simply join us.
	It's free and all we ask is your email address.
	And if you don't want to get email alerts, just click the little box and let me know.
	Well, as this develops and if anything else happens, please stay in contact.
	All right.
	And I really appreciate you standing up, not just for the people of Louisiana and New Orleans, but also for the people of the country, because the problems with the levees around the nation not even being repaired is obviously a very, very serious issue.
	And you're right.
	Until we have a true impartial investigation about levee strengths around the country, how can we even set about fixing them?
	So it's just all part of this culture of corruption where things are just basically falling apart.
	And I promise this is my last sentence.
	That Midwest flooding clearly showed that levy failure and flooding is definitely not a coastal problem.
	No, it's a problem everywhere, and flooding's always been a serious problem.
	I mean, look at the Dutch.
	They didn't decide to just let the sea win.
	They actually beat the sea and expanded their country quite a bit.
	So, well, listen, great having you on with us, and we'll talk to you again soon.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	You bet.
	All right, folks, when we come back out of break, we're going to go live at PrisonPlanet.tv for the balance of the show today, the next two and a half hours.
	I'm going to do the next 35 minutes, five minutes in the next hour, so I have time getting into Building 7 and the latest developments there that are huge.
	And I've tried to build this up with some suspense.
	Because things like this deserve suspense.
	I mean, we need to understand how serious this is.
	What a big deal this is.
	What a big deal all these things are.
	You know, it comes out that Dick Cheney was planning to stage terror attacks against U.S.
	ships six months ago.
	Comes out in New Yorker magazine.
	MSNBC picks it up and nobody even talks about it.
	It's like no big deal.
	And then now more evidence has come out, stacked on top of evidence and evidence, that the government blew up Building 7 and
	You know, this is a huge deal, so some big new developments.
	That is coming up after this quick break, ladies and gentlemen, so please stay with us.
	We'll be live at PrisonPlanet.tv for folks viewing, and of course on the MNFM dial as well as the streams at InfoWars.com.
	Hello, my friends.
	It is the 23rd day of December 2008.
	Here in the waning days of 2008, a year where we saw MSNBC and the New Yorker magazine report that Dick Cheney, according to White House sources, planned to stage terror attacks against U.S.
	ships and Strait of Hormuz using
	This is the type of issues that we're dealing with here.
	Throughout history, governments have staged terror attacks.
	And in the next 30 minutes here at PrisonPlanet.tv, I'm going to break down the story of Building 7.
	I think later next week I'm gonna do a full hour on this and really go through the majority of the clips because there are hundreds and we do have time constraints here but I saw a new clip up on PrisonPlanet.com last night and a story this morning by Paul Watson and it says
	New York Fire Department Lieutenant admitted plan to take down Building 7.
	Now he is on MSNBC and he is in the clip.
	Openly saying that Building 7's been burning and it may fall on its own or we may take it down.
	Now there's no debating what we may take it down means.
	Now this alone could be, you know,
	Still something to investigate, something very suspicious.
	We never had a modern steel building fall the way Tower 1, 2, or 7 did.
	Tower 7 was the 47-story building, also owned by Silverstein, a second-largest spook compound in the world outside of DC.
	And what happened there?
	What happened with this case?
	Well, Silverstein went on
	A program called America Rebuilds and says that there had been such a loss of life and damage that the fire department made the decision to pull the building and so they gave the order and watched the building come down.
	They pulled the building
	They gave the order to pull it and watch the building come down.
	Now, pull it is a demolition term for controlled demolition.
	And in the very same documentary on PBS, 2002, they cut to the next scene and show them blowing up the wreckage of Building 6 that was still standing, even though one of the towers fell on it.
	And they go, getting ready, getting ready to pull Building 6!
	And they have a controlled demolition, and then also pull it with cranes the direction they want it to fall, so it doesn't damage other structures.
	Now, we have videos of firefighters and police saying, get back, get back, they're getting ready to bring the building down.
	Then we have eyewitnesses that we've gone, firefighters, emergency workers, police officers, that say they heard the countdown, that they were told to get back from the building.
	And then I remember going
	I've been on the air all day that day, and I remember rushing up to the local pizza place, I've told the story many times, to get a pizza, take out, and flipping between channels during news, and hearing CBS Radio News, I believe now defunct, I never hear it anymore, and ABC Radio News, both reporting, Building 7, the Solomons Brothers building, they don't want it to damage other nearby buildings, so they may bring it down.
	They may bring it down.
	Because see, the feds had to put out their story to the police and firemen.
	Hey, don't worry.
	We don't want to damage stuff.
	We're going to bring it down.
	The police and firemen didn't ask.
	Well, it takes weeks or months to rig a building properly.
	How are you going to do that?
	Now, since then, it's come out that Fox, CNN and BBC all reported in the hour before.
	Building 7 fell at 530 in the afternoon Eastern.
	That the building had fallen due to fires and its own footprint at freefall.
	They got the exact script right and BBC simultaneously on both channels said the exact same thing.
	So we said, that's false scripting.
	That's a live video.
	One of them's on a rooftop.
	One of the fellows is on the street.
	And so I said, somebody sent out
	A news feed that was planted by intelligence.
	We know intelligence fills the BBC, fills Reuters, fills AP.
	That's been in congressional hearings back in the 70s.
	Somebody planted that story earlier.
	Kind of like stories were planted in the eastern press in Australia, New Zealand, Thailand that Lee Harvey Oswald
	Uh, had been caught and had killed Kennedy before he'd even been captured.
	His name released, you know, it was in newspapers.
	Fletcher Prodi always talked about that one of the heads of black ops in the Pentagon.
	So here we had this and then people, the, the, the Pentagon debunkers came out and said, we made it up that that was a tape, that that was a recording, uh, on the.
	BBC and then later BBC said no that was real that was live we just made a mistake.
	So we have all of this and so today I wanted to go over some of the clips but but first let's play about five minutes here at PrisonPlanet.tv from Terror Storm.
	It's a two plus hour film that I produced dealing with the history of government-sponsored terror and we spend just a few minutes
	On Building 7.
	This is a small part of that.
	And then I want to go back through some of the other clips and the new clip and why this is such a big deal.
	So here's that clip.
	It's amazing.
	Amazing, incredible, pick your word.
	For the third time today, it's reminiscent of those pictures we've all seen too much on television before when a building was deliberately destroyed by well-placed dynamite to knock it down.
	We have the owner of the World Trade Center complex admitting on tape that he ordered the building demolished on the afternoon of 9-11.
	I said, you know, we've had such terrible loss of life.
	Maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.
	And they made that decision to pull.
	And then we watched the building collapse.
	During our on-the-ground investigations in New York City over the last five-plus years, we've talked to scores of eyewitnesses who had claimed that police and firemen told them to get back from Building 7 because it was going to be brought down or, quote, explode.
	Building 7, while I was listening to live feed from our local public radio station later in the afternoon, they talked about Building 7.
	Building 7 was fine.
	There was no airplane that hit it.
	And then they even began to ruminate on the air about demolishing the building.
	I said, well, I don't know.
	I mean, you can put out fires.
	You know, why would you talk about demolishing a building that, you know, it wasn't hit by anything?
	You know, the fires weren't bad or anything like that.
	I will say that I spoke to a cop on 9-11 who said that it was going to come down.
	I don't know how he knew that.
	Now, archived CNN footage has surfaced showing video footage of a New York City police officer telling cameramen and civilians to get back from Building 7 because the building was going to blow up.
	Just in the last few seconds, another building, building number seven, one of the buildings in support of the World Trade Center towers, has collapsed.
	This is no small building.
	As you can see, it's 47 stories.
	It would stand out in most American cities.
	And then, in late February of 2007, 9-11 researchers reviewing archives of live news coverage from September 11 discovered to their shock that BBC World had reported that Building 7, also known as the Solomon Brothers Building, had completely collapsed over 20 minutes before its actual implosion.
	First anchors at the London News Desk reported it.
	Now, more on the latest building collapse in New York.
	You might have heard a few moments ago I was talking about the Salomon Brothers building collapsing.
	And indeed it has.
	Apparently that's only a few hundred yards away from where the... They then cut to BBC reporter Jane Standley in New York.
	...who also reported that the Salomon Brothers building had fallen, all the while with the building clearly visible behind her through the window.
	Our correspondent, Jane Stanley.
	Jane, what more can you tell us about the Salomon Brothers building and its collapse?
	Well, only really what you already know.
	Details are very, very sketchy.
	There's almost a sense downtown in New York behind me, down by the World Trade Center, of just an area completely closed off as the rescue workers try to do their job.
	But this isn't the first building that has suffered as a result.
	We know that part of the Marriott Hotel next to the World Trade Center also collapsed as a result of this
	Huge amount of falling debris from 110 floors of the two twin towers of the World Trade Center.
	As you can see behind me, the Trade Center appears to be still burning.
	We see these huge clouds of smoke and ash and we know that behind that there's an empty piece of what was a very familiar New York skyline.
	Another BBC News channel, BBC 24, also got the word and reported the collapse 20 minutes before it fell.
	Enormous building in New York has collapsed.
	It is the 47-story Salomon Brothers building, which was situated very close to the World Trade Center, right there in this financial capital.
	It then emerged that Aaron Brown of CNN reported, from a rooftop overlooking Ground Zero, that Building 7 had collapsed over an hour before it actually fell.
	We are getting information now that one of the other buildings, Building 7, in the World Trade Center complex is on fire and has either collapsed or is collapsing, and I...
	You, to be honest, can see these pictures a little bit more clearly than I, but building number seven, one of the buildings in this very large complex of buildings that is the Trade Center, there were, and that is the right way to put it, there were the two towers, but then there are a number of support buildings around it, and now we are told that there's a fire there.
	And that building may collapse as well as you can see.
	We can see as we look now back downtown, we can see the billowing smoke.
	CNN and BBC's reports inclusively prove media prior knowledge and false start scripting of Building 7's controlled demolition.
	Couple that with hundreds of police, firefighters, and rescue workers stating that they were told to get back from Seven because it was going to be brought down.
	There can be no doubt that building Seven's destruction was an orchestrated inside job.
	9-11 was just one salvo in an ongoing war against the free peoples of the planet.
	It's all part of their terror storm.
	All right, ladies and gentlemen, thank you again for joining us.
	So, that's a little bit of background.
	We have scores of police, firemen, EMTs, video clips, audio clips, with them saying, yeah, they said the building was rigged, that the feds were blowing it up.
	Let's go ahead first, though, and play Larry Silverstein on national TV saying they made the decision to pull it, gave the order, and watched it come down.
	Before I play you, the Deputy Fire Chief, this is a new clip, live from the day, MSNBC.
	That's right, but let's play Silverstein now.
	Here it is.
	I remember getting a call from the fire department commander telling me that they were not sure they were going to be able to contain the fire.
	I said, you know, we've had such terrible loss of life.
	Maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.
	And they made that decision to pull, and then we watched the building collapse.
	Now, none of this even gets into the physical evidence.
	The bomb blast, the squibs, the building collapsing in on itself in a symmetrical implosion, the firefighters on multiple national TV shows saying they were inside the buildings.
	It was like molten steel was running.
	Only Thermate can do that.
	Let's go ahead and play that clip of New York Fire Department personnel saying there was molten steel.
	Then we'll get to the new clip.
	Here it is.
	Down below you see molten steel.
	Molten steel running down the channel rails like you're in a foundry And we cut it quickly there because there's been some cussing But again, those are you know senior fire department people telling you Again, the temperatures from fires can't do that now
	Without further ado, ladies and gentlemen, and we have the name of this fire department commander.
	It's in a story.
	FDNY Lieutenant admitted plan to take down WTC7.
	And this was on MSNBC.
	And his name, it's all on record.
	We've got all these other people, cops and firemen, some of them have been killed, some of them have died mysteriously.
	Now that they've spoken out, we hope nothing happens to him.
	He should go public quickly.
	Now that we've found this, and I'm telling you folks, I heard a bunch of other, I heard city officials and FEMA officials on the radio saying they were going to blow it up.
	Who's going to go get the ABC radio archives of that day at like four o'clock?
	Four o'clock central, like five o'clock eastern, thirty minutes before they blew it up.
	I'm at Mr. Gatti's getting a pizza.
	I'm flipping around.
	I'm waiting in the parking lot for the pizza.
	You know, I got there a little bit early and I'm listening to the radio.
	So I'm going to run home and do my own radio show.
	And I'm sitting there.
	And I'm hearing them talk about how they're blowing it up.
	And see, that's why I didn't even think about it.
	No way, they said they blew that up!
	Oh, shut up, conspiracy theorist!
	You didn't hear that on the radio.
	You didn't hear any of that.
	You understand?
	Let's go ahead and play this clip.
	Here it is.
	Here's the new clip.
	In fact, you were just told by police that you should move out of your apartment, Fabiana.
	You've got Carolina here.
	Yes.
	They advised us to leave because you have... Oh my God.
	Look behind us.
	Please pan in this way.
	Please be careful of your baby.
	This is it.
	Oh my God.
	Oh my God.
	Oh my God.
	No.
	No.
	Listen.
	We'll be alright.
	We're okay.
	We'll be alright.
	I think we're okay.
	I think we're okay.
	All right, we're going to have to move this way.
	We're going to have to move.
	We're going to have to move.
	That cloud is coming this way.
	Ashley, get out of there.
	Leave the camera on, man, if you need to and get out of there.
	What we've been fearing all afternoon has apparently happened.
	We were watching No.
	7 World Trade, which was
	You know what?
	Stop it there.
	I started this too late.
	We're going to come back from break and play it unedited here because then they go to the fire department lieutenant and he says, yeah, you know, they were talking about bringing it down, blowing it up, and you know, now I guess that's happened.
	So again, this was on NPR.
	This was on CBS.
	This was on ABC.
	This was on MSNBC.
	That's Matt Lauer.
	And then we have, you know, we went and found the cops that are in the video on the ground with Amy Goodman when they're being told, get back, get back.
	Amy Goodman, Democracy Now!, she witnessed all of this.
	She's now been forced to admit that there should be an investigation of seven.
	I mean, this is incredible, folks.
	Stay with us.
	The Genesis Communications Radio Network proudly presents the Alex Jones Show.
	Because there's a war on for your mind.
	We do this with very heavy heart.
	You know, I know that 9-11 was an inside job.
	I know criminal elements in our government admittedly have staged over 200 declassified terrorist attacks.
	But it still shook me last night when I saw this newest clip of hundreds with a New York Fire Department commander.
	Talking about, and again, we're not saying they're complicit or involved.
	This is the official story they're giving.
	Oh yeah, it's endangering other buildings.
	We're going to have to bring it down.
	It may collapse on its own and we may have to blow it up.
	And then that's what Silverstein also says.
	And then you have all the witnesses to that happening.
	And then you have the deputy head of emergency management talking about bombs going off in it before Tower 1 or 2 fell, and then he mysteriously dies quite quickly, Barry Jennings.
	So, I mean, this just gets more and more serious, folks.
	We have all these fire department people, all these police on record saying that there was a plan to blow it up, and no one asked, how was there a plan to blow it up?
	That takes weeks to do.
	And then now they say they never said that and we're conspiracy theorists.
	Folks, it is an inside job.
	It really happened.
	You think it's fun for me to confront these murderers?
	You think this is a fun job?
	I know who they are.
	You know, I have a lot of courage, but sometimes I wake up at 3 or 4 a.m.
	and it's not even fear, it's more of a shock.
	It's like, oh my God, I'm actually fighting these people.
	I'm actually on the air confronting people that would kill 3,000 people on 9-11.
	These bastards have to be defeated.
	My only fear is that we won't be effective.
	Now, here's the clip.
	This is huge.
	This is Matt Lauer talking to one of the fire department commanders about the plan to bring down Building 7.
	Here it is.
	In fact, you were just told by police that you should move out of your apartment, Fabiana.
	You've got Carolina here.
	Yes.
	They advised us to leave because you have... Oh my God.
	Look behind us.
	Please be careful of your baby.
	Please pan in this way.
	This is it.
	Oh my God.
	Oh my God.
	Oh my God.
	No.
	No.
	Listen.
	We'll be alright.
	We'll be alright.
	We're okay.
	I think we're okay.
	I think we're okay.
	All right, we're going to have to move this way.
	We're going to have to move.
	We're going to have to move.
	That cloud is coming this way.
	Leave the camera on, man, if you need to and get out of there.
	Ashley, get out of there.
	What we've been fearing all afternoon has apparently happened.
	We were watching number seven World Trade, which was
	Part of the ancillary damage of the explosion and collapse of the other two.
	We've been talking all day about how fast these plumes of smoke move.
	You're watching one on the move right now that is building dust.
	Look at the wider shot on the left from across the river in New York.
	This was a 40-story building.
	They've been watching all day.
	This is like watching the collapse of an active volcano.
	And the dust from it is not unlike that from a volcano.
	We are on the phone with New York Fire Department Lieutenant David Restuccio.
	Lieutenant, where are you right now?
	I'm at the corner of Northmore Street and Greenwich Street.
	Can you confirm it was number 7 that just went in?
	Yes, sir.
	And you guys knew this was coming all day?
	We had heard reports that the building was unstable and that eventually it would come down on its own or it would be taken down.
	I would imagine it came down on its own and we are just awaiting now at our triage for any other casualties or any other injuries.
	Everybody alright where you are, Lieutenant?
	Very much so right now.
	All right, back that up about 30 seconds.
	Did you hear?
	See, they put out the official story early in the day.
	Because building 7 for some reason was supposed to go out in the morning, but the plane from Pennsylvania, something happened.
	It didn't get hit by a plane, so they didn't have that big spectacular, but it was still wired.
	It was still a spook house.
	It was still ready to go.
	FBI, CIA, all in there.
	So for whatever reason, they then tell everybody all day, it's gonna come down, it's gonna come down.
	Before there are even fires in it, they're telling people, get out, it's gonna come down.
	We'll be right back.
	Stay with us.
	Big Brother.
	Mainstream media.
	Government cover-ups.
	You want answers?
	Well, so does he.
	He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
	And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
	We are live here at PrisonPlanet.tv.
	We have a police detective, a survivor of 9-11, joining us.
	Coming up in the next segment and later in the hour, Luke Rudowsky being harassed by FBI now for protesting the fact that 9-11 is an inside job.
	But what is the system going to do as there's hundreds of clips of firemen and police and fire commanders saying, yeah, they were going to blow the building up.
	They were going to bring it down.
	We were told it would fall on its own when it had no fires in it and then it got them or that we would bring it down.
	So that's in case it leaked.
	They were planting bombs.
	Oh, yeah, we're bringing it down.
	Why did they do that?
	I don't know.
	The point is, they did blow it up.
	That shows foreknowledge and involvement.
	Let's play that clip.
	This is the new clip.
	And again, there's countless other ones out there.
	We just need you to dig them up and find them.
	Because I remember seeing them and hearing them that day.
	I didn't know what I was seeing though.
	I'm like, they're going to blow up that building.
	That doesn't make sense.
	And then later they say it just fell on its own.
	You kind of forget about it, focus on the big towers, and then
	It comes up and all these disinfo operatives on the web on every issue say we're a liar say it isn't real or say it isn't true or say BBC didn't report the fall of seven before it fell and then BBC admits they did and then they come out and attack something new.
	To those government operatives and I've seen them at ground zero they'll walk right over and you'll be like you're a government agent aren't you and they're just like
	We're going to get you truthers.
	And you can tell some of these folks are probably involved in it.
	It is just truly, truly sick.
	As more and more evidence comes out, those that have been camp followers of cold or minions of this whole thing, they
	Are really going to look bad, you're really going to feel bad, because now you've made yourselves complicit in the murder of 3,000 people.
	Let's go ahead and finish up with the clip one more time with the fire lieutenant talking about how, yes, there was a plan to bring it down, Building 7.
	That it was going to fall on its own, or we were going to bring it down.
	Here it is.
	Northmore Street and Greenwich Street.
	Can you confirm it was Number 7 that just went in?
	Yes, sir.
	And you guys knew this was coming all day?
	We had heard reports that the building was unstable and that eventually it would either come down on its own or it would be taken down.
	I would imagine it came down on its own and we are just awaiting now at our triage for any other casualties or any other injuries.
	So there you have it.
	Again, confirmed by Silverstein, by firefighters, senior firefighters, by all these people that
	Building seven, there was a plan to bring it down.
	And what did Larry Silverstein say?
	Let's play that clip one more time.
	There'd been such a great loss of life that we made the decision to pull it.
	And so we gave the order and watched it come down.
	Pull it, demolition term for control demolition.
	We gave the order to pull it and then watch the building come down.
	I mean, what does that mean to you?
	And then you see the building with the blast points and the rest of it and all of it happening.
	I remember getting a call from the fight upon a commander.
	Here it is.
	Telling me that they were not sure they were going to be able to contain the fire.
	I said, you know, we've had such terrible loss of life.
	Maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.
	And they made that decision to pull.
	And then we watched the building collapse.
	So what happens is, as we get dozens and dozens and dozens of more clips every year of firefighters, police, you know, Amy Goodman down there on the ground hearing the countdown, and then suddenly the building falls.
	Again, we don't make a big enough deal about this.
	I mean, we know it's an inside job, so we don't go out and point out that the evidence just piles up.
	This is huge, and I demand a grand jury.
	In New York, New York State, somewhere else in the country, because people were lost from all over the U.S., all over the world.
	Call some of these people before them, before the feds kill them, like this fire lieutenant, and say, okay, you know, exactly who told you they were planning to bring the building down?
	Again, ladies and gentlemen, we know it's an inside job.
	Here's the evidence in front of you.
	It just keeps stacking up.
	Stay with us.
	He's the T-Rex of political talk.
	Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
	He is a New Jersey police detective who responded on 9-11.
	So he's a 9-11 first responder.
	Detective John Carroll.
	I know he sent Richard Gage in to speak to police in
	The New Jersey New York area has a lot of courage and now he's becoming more vocal and I already had him set up for the show yesterday.
	But it dovetails perfectly into what I've been covering in the last 30 minutes here at PrisonPlanet.tv and of course on the radio show that we're simulcasting with right now.
	And that is that, I mean, firemen, police, I've got a bunch of other audio and video clips I'm gonna play this hour, on record saying they heard the countdown.
	But not just them saying that to us now, we have CNN and MSNBC and others with us saying, get back, get back, they're bringing it down.
	And then the feds, when they approach you at Ground Zero,
	They go, how dare you?
	These guys are wicked.
	They'll say, how dare you?
	They'll just be like looking at you with dagger eyes.
	How dare you say the cops and firemen blew it up?
	We go, we didn't say that.
	They were just given the official story.
	They were bringing it down for everybody's safety and then told to shut up.
	They're like, oh, and they'll tell the crowd, you hear him?
	They say the firemen did it.
	Again, and then they'll look to see how the op's working.
	I mean, these people are sick.
	They are sick.
	And this was a giant false flag attack, and there's all the evidence, thousands of pieces.
	But Building 7, not just the evidence of thermate and thermite and the explosions and the building falling and free fall and NIST now having to admit that.
	It's that, for some reason, another plane didn't hit it.
	Something else developed.
	Something else.
	You know, guys, when I go into these coughing fits, just put a screen up, because I'm in here sick, and I just put a screen up whenever you see me going to cough, so we don't torture people with that on television, or I may not be able to continue the show here.
	Yes, we can.
	All right.
	Again, I'm in here even though I've been sick the last few days because this information is too important.
	So just bear with me, folks.
	What you can do is just aim a camera at the wall and then cut to that.
	All right.
	Look, you know, I'm way past
	I'm way past even, and this isn't about radio, this isn't about my films, this isn't about anything with me.
	I mean, this, other than the fact that I'm in danger from fighting these murdering bastards and everybody else is that fights them, but we're in greater danger of not standing up to them.
	And this is real, folks.
	We're really fighting people that would attack their own country and then pose as saviors on top of the smoking pile of rubble and dead.
	And we really do have a corrupt elite that is just completely out of control.
	And they really did stage the terror attacks.
	I mean, even if you don't want to believe it, they really do make big mistakes.
	And it was known to the police and firemen that they at least blew up Building 7.
	And it would take weeks or months to do that.
	And it was a spook house full of FBI, Defense Intelligence, CIA, you name it.
	And they are killing 9-11 first responders that are blowing the whistle.
	And they are going after We Are Change.
	And they do have FBI harassing them.
	And I do get death threats over this.
	And this is real, ladies and gentlemen.
	This is real.
	And you just heard a fire department commander on record saying that they'd been told that the feds had a plan to bring down Building 7.
	To, quote, protect other buildings.
	Which they did.
	It went down perfectly in its own footprint.
	So, enough said.
	Detective John Carroll,
	I appreciate you coming on the show with us today.
	First, I know you were listening earlier, give me your take on the latest mainstream live clip where police, firemen, and others were said, we were told to get back, they were going to bring down 7.
	We were expecting this all day.
	Again, not saying fire and police are involved, but now after the fact, when they cover up, they become complicit.
	To some degree, you are not complicit.
	Because you're still the hero you were, fighting that day to help the people and fighting today to expose the truth.
	But God forbid our police and firemen do come complicit by playing along with this.
	So, Detective Carroll, thanks for coming on with us.
	Thanks for having me, Alex.
	You bet.
	Absolutely.
	I think it's up to all law enforcement, military law enforcement.
	We swore to protect this country.
	This is what... and we're compensated for it.
	You know, I'm a Jersey City detective.
	On 9-11, I mean, we knew, I didn't know it was positive 7 at the time, nobody, we just heard a building was definitely coming down.
	We ran out, you know, we were just evacuated.
	But anybody that's not coming forward in law enforcement at this point is complicit after the fact.
	Would you agree with that?
	No, I agree with you.
	Anybody who's seen the facts and who is in denial, and I've had so many police come up and shake my hand or wave or thank me when I'm down at ground zero, but then most of them don't want to go on camera.
	Some do now wave at us and give us thumbs up, even commanders, but they won't go on tape.
	Well Alex, I'm a trained professional and I will protect myself and my family.
	So I...
	So the average fireman, the average emergency worker, the average police officer, you just heard, oh, seven's coming down.
	You know, no big deal.
	Three buildings, first time in history from fire.
	It's coming down.
	Get back.
	Well, again, I'm not a structural engineer.
	We weren't aware of the vernacular, but we were told, I would say, about an hour before.
	I think, again, I'm Jersey City, so our communications
	We're directly across the river.
	It was approximately an hour before that we were told to evacuate.
	And specifically, what did you hear?
	Just that a building was coming down.
	We were Jersey City personnel, so we were just told to evacuate.
	So on record, they knew Building 7 was coming down, and what is it like to hear all these, or see all these video clips of police, firemen, emergency workers, all saying that they were told, you know, higher-ups, that the feds were going to bring down Building 7, and then in hindsight, because that proves inside job, to see it all being denied?
	Well, it's disheartening, but you have to put it in proper context.
	I mean, how do we move forward?
	And I think your show provides the
	You know, the apparatus to motivate us.
	And I think that's what we're doing.
	I think that's individuals like myself and a lot of cops are listening right now, too.
	Just so you know.
	Well, I want to just beg them to have the courage to stand up and speak out.
	An investigation in New York or New Jersey by people inside the system could literally bring down the New World Order.
	If it comes out that it's an inside job, mainline, they can't kill all of you, then this will bring down the New World Order.
	They cannot survive this.
	And I've risked my life and many others have been killed to bring you this information, so I hope to God you'll have the courage to at least investigate what we're saying.
	Now, specifically,
	In your own saga, trying to wake up your department, that's one of the reasons you're here today.
	Break that down.
	I mean, talk about whatever you want.
	Well, what I've attempted to do, and now I haven't done this formally, so I want to be specific with that and be clear with it.
	I haven't put it formally on paper, which I mean, that's how you establish a paper trail as far as making a formal request.
	I'm walking a fine line here because they could bring charges against me, so I have to be very careful what I say.
	First of all, we're Jersey City.
	It's a hotbed of Middle Eastern people.
	It's a microcosm of all types of people in Jersey City.
	We really are an ethnic bully abyss here.
	But we don't have a terrorist task force, which is odd to me.
	And when I try to speak to people about the issue, my fellow officers reclure from it, and I have no idea why they do that.
	And that's why I wanted to ask you advice on how to present the information to them.
	Well, I mean, I don't have all the answers, but first off, I would understand that they're in fear.
	Deep down, they know it's true.
	They're not stupid.
	And they want to hold on to their life.
	It's too scary to admit there's this big evil power running the government.
	Thank you.
	The NATO option, Operation Ajax, this is all admitted.
	Huge terror attacks staged.
	You can give them Northwoods, ABC News, plans to kill U.S.
	troops, plans to bomb U.S.
	cities and blame it on foreign enemies.
	And so, first that this has gone on, and then I would just show them the clips of going, okay, why did they report that Building 7 was going to be brought down?
	And then later say that it was just fire that did it, when no steel building had ever done this, and then here's Richard Gage's information.
	This needs to be looked into.
	And then I would give them the Keith Olbermann clip talking about Dick Cheney wanting to stage terror attacks against our own ships, the Cy Hirsch report on that, and then say okay.
	And then I would also give them the polls showing the majority of Americans believe that there's a 9-11 cover-up.
	I'm sorry, not to interrupt you, but as a police officer, you reconcile your mortality pretty much on a daily basis.
	I don't think it's a fear for their safety.
	I just believe it's more of...
	They are an emotional peer.
	No, no, I agree.
	They've done studies.
	Stay there.
	We'll come back and talk about this.
	This is important, but I want to hear what you have to say, not just, you know, myself.
	It's easier to charge a machine gun nest to go against your peers.
	They found that in psychological studies.
	We'll be right back.
	All right, Detective John Carroll from Jersey City, New Jersey is our guest.
	He was a first responder on the day of 9-11 and throughout the next few days working there on the pile.
	And a lot of his cohorts listening right now, they're in his department.
	Look, sir, I mean, you know more about being a police officer than I do and how to deal with it.
	I would just tell these officers, look at 8.5 trillion stolen in eight weeks and counting.
	The people that did this attack aren't going to stop.
	I mean, and now troops on the streets and all of that.
	I mean, we have been taken over by foreign corporate interests that are looting us.
	I mean, I guess they can just live in denial and they're going to lose everything they got.
	Because criminals that will do something this big aren't going to stop.
	But, I mean, go ahead, make your points.
	Make your points of your awakening and where you see all this going.
	Well, again, Alex, I'm not a professional orator.
	I mean, I find myself a fairly articulate person, but... Well, I'm not a professional orator either, but go ahead.
	Well, you sure come off like one.
	But I think at the end of the day,
	To try to inspire people to move forward in general, not just police officers, they need to assimilate to what the reality is.
	And I think it's just at such a core level that the 9-11 issue is just such a... it redefines your existence.
	And I think that's the wall that I'm bouncing against.
	Now, for some reason, I could see through it, but I think that
	Police are, you know, we're authoritative.
	You become that over, I mean, I was never that type of guy to begin with, excuse me, before I became a cop.
	But you sort of become that, and I think that insulates you even more so than a citizen.
	No, I understand the general public, the civilians.
	Yeah, the civilians.
	But the bottom line is, historically, police are one of the most abused groups by corrupt systems.
	And so police need to know, historically, you're not immune.
	In fact, you're going to get the dirty end of the stick, generally.
	I mean, did the New World Order care about the cops and firemen when they blocked the treatment for the dust?
	When they told you the dust wasn't bad?
	Well, you know, I went for all the tests and I'm healthy as a horse.
	No, that's good, but it did kill a lot of people.
	That's confirmed.
	Yes, it did.
	I mean, Mount Sinai.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	And remember, the government tried to deny that for four years, but now they have all the CAT scans of thousands.
	Thousands are dead.
	So, good thing that didn't happen to you.
	Did you get a breathing mask pretty quick?
	No, I pretty much had a spackle mask on the whole time.
	Well, you were smart to have that, brother.
	That's probably what saved you.
	Yeah.
	Getting back to the overlying point is that what happened here is so overwhelming that for the average human being to wrap their minds around it, that's where it becomes the issue.
	I think that's the core issue.
	And you speak to it so eloquently.
	Here's an example.
	I knew 15 years ago, 13 years ago when I got on air, that most pork you buy at the store, raw pork, has live worms in it that will eat your brain.
	Now I tell people that and they laugh at me.
	Now I play a Fox News clip about how suddenly thousands of people are having their brains eaten by these worms.
	People finally listen.
	Who would believe that there's worms eating people's brains and that nobody's trying to stop these pigs from Mexico coming in?
	You know, I'm not making that up, and I'm not making up that 9-11's an inside job either.
	So, you know, I don't know what to say to people.
	There's people right now on my website saying we're making it up about the worms that eat people's brains.
	So, I mean, I can't do anything other than just tell people that, okay, if you don't want to believe us, that's fine.
	But the evidence is over.
	We're going to come back in a long segment, and I want to specifically get into
	You know, where this goes in your department, challenging people, you know, the types of responses you get.
	But keep making your points.
	Well, again, what I think, collectively, what police should do, especially 9-11 survivors, there needs to be a coalition.
	And that's what I'm going to try to attempt to do, because I don't trust government at all.
	I understand.
	But I do trust people, and there's a lot of good people in the government.
	So what I want to do is move forward and try to establish just a group of people that can, first of all, wrap their minds around this, and then move forward from there.
	Yeah, I would call it police and military for 9-11 truth.
	I think they already have similar groups.
	Now, you know, what was it, the daughter of the supposed Flight 77 in New Jersey, they admitted was murdered by arson by a can of gas in the face in her hallway.
	So I'm just telling you, be careful, Officer Carroll.
	I know you're not stupid, but I'm telling you, they will
	He's the T-Rex of political talk.
	Alex Jones, on the GCN Radio Network.
	All right, we're back live.
	Lou Berdowski waiting in the wings.
	Detective John Carroll from Jersey City, New Jersey joins us.
	9-11 first responder, survivor, hero.
	And we have so many types of police, firemen, emergency responders.
	I want to play one right now.
	From an EMT who was on the site.
	Just a brief clip, then we're going to go back to the police officer and others.
	But here is that clip.
	It's the next video clip on the DVD.
	Yes, from Truth Rising.
	Here it is.
	I'm Kevin McPadden.
	I was a first responder on 9-11 and I'm a prior Air Force medic.
	He was there.
	He was there when Building 7 came down and he clearly hears a countdown on the building being demolitioned.
	On the first day, on 9-11, a stage north of Building 7, Amy Goodman was out in the intersection part.
	World Trade Center, Building 7, your opinion?
	I think it needs to be further investigated.
	They had half of us separate into search and rescue and half of us into medical assistance.
	When we saw the firemen pick up and start grabbing their equipment and bustling back and forth, you know, they were getting ready to do something, we started asking questions.
	And so we had our eyes on this Red Cross representative that was holding a radio.
	So, you know, usually the person who's holding the radio has answers.
	Well, what's going on?
	What's going on?
	Well, what are the firemen running around for?
	Like, there's something going on.
	And next thing you know, there's firemen grabbing all their equipment and there was a whole bustle and shuffle of firemen going on.
	He goes over, he talks to the firemen.
	He comes back with his hand covered over the radio and he's like, you know, just sit tight.
	Just sit tight.
	Calm down.
	It's calm down.
	You know, it's alright.
	He finally has this face that is like he was heartbroken.
	He's like, just run for your life!
	Rescue workers push people away from the scene.
	He takes his hand off and you hear three, two, one, and it was boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
	I said, you know, we've had such a terrible loss of life.
	Maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.
	And they made that decision to pull.
	And then we watched the building collapse.
	Rich Gage is an amazing individual.
	He studied architecture.
	Again, that's from Truth Rising.
	That's where everybody needs to get the DVD, make copies of it, get it out to everybody.
	This is probably the most important 9-11 film out there just because it gets into every aspect of it, including the movement.
	But, you know, it's not just that witness or all the other firemen or police or emergency workers.
	It's that we even then have the video of Amy Goodman in the shot he's talking about with he and others milling around in the shot.
	You can even see him there in the blurred video.
	And then we talked to Amy Goodman and she admits she remembers it.
	And we have the footage of the cops saying, get back, it's coming down.
	They're gonna bring it down.
	I mean, we don't just have eyewitnesses, we have live CNN and MSNBC news feeds of it happening.
	Now,
	Again, Officer, Detective John Carroll, I mean, what do you call that in a case when the evidence piles up and piles up and piles up and piles up and piles up and piles up and piles up and piles up and then it's all in our face and then they tell us don't even discuss it, don't even look at it, what do you call that?
	Well, just a preponderance of evidence.
	What do you mean by that?
	Well, I mean, I mean, I mean, it's a two-parter.
	I mean, yeah, I mean, just an overwhelming open and shut case in your face, hidden in plain view.
	But yeah, and then, and then they just cover that up.
	I mean, it's like an elephant sitting on you in the living room and people are saying there's not an elephant in here.
	Well, oftentimes in law enforcement, see, again, Alex, I have to be very careful of how I address questions because I'm still held to protocol.
	So even commenting about police work, that would give them... How would you get in trouble?
	I mean, you don't lose your First Amendment, do you?
	You're not even allowed to comment on the 9-11 investigation, or what are you saying?
	Well, no.
	When it comes to just police work in general, that's where... What I'm saying about 9-11, that's going to bring, from my standpoint, things to a forefront.
	Yes.
	The minute I retire, I'll come on your show for
	Anytime, if you'd graciously have me, and I'll speak out in order.
	No, sure.
	Yesterday, when I got the message relayed from Aaron, I must have misunderstood it.
	It was that you're basically throwing down the gauntlet to the department.
	Can you clarify that?
	Well, what I want to do, and it was sort of short notice, and everyone's on vacation right now.
	What I want to do is basically say, I'm not going to work.
	I'm a 15-year veteran.
	I got all the bells and whistles.
	I don't want to go into my
	Well, we were talking before the show, and you were talking about the fact that you did swear an oath.
	And that oath is to the people.
	Like you said, it's not to some shadowy intelligence agency that controls the government.
	Absolutely.
	And I want to speak to all military and police listening right now.
	And I'm sure there are a lot.
	We swore an oath, people.
	This is what you're supposed to be doing.
	I don't trust government, never did, but I trust people in government.
	There's enough of us out there that we're not going to let this happen.
	We're simply not going to let it happen.
	Now,
	If I'm threatened with death or whatever, I'm a trained professional.
	I don't have to protect myself.
	And if anybody's planning on doing anything, you know what?
	You better send a lot of them.
	But, you know, police reconcile their mortality.
	I know what I'm doing here.
	I will take you out!
	Well, in a way, that's liberating, isn't it?
	To go ahead and reconcile it, deal with it, go through it, go past it, kind of go past the point of return.
	I mean, because I've been not put in the position of a police officer, the danger you're in every day, but I've been physically attacked, I've been death-threatened, you know, no doubt.
	I face a lot of different type of dangers, my name being besmirched, being physically attacked.
	Being audited, things like that.
	But it really is liberating, in a way, to just say, I am who I am, and I'm not backing down, and that's just the end of it.
	Yes, it is.
	It's very liberating.
	But as police officers, I think as people in general, I think that's just a human quality.
	Once you get past that point of fear that you speak to, that's when you do make that quantum leap.
	And I've stayed quiet too long.
	It was because of my job that I did.
	I took my oath seriously.
	I take my profession seriously.
	It provides food for my family.
	But I'm compensated for the privilege of helping people.
	Imagine that.
	Imagine being paid to be a hero.
	Or what's the possibility of a hero?
	It's great.
	Well, it's a sacred office, as long as it's controlled by the people.
	And a good thing, it's too bad this system, this corrupt system, has been corrupting that and destroying something that, you know, really was honorable and still can be salvaged.
	What woke you up, Detective Carroll, first to the fact that things were shady surrounding 9-11?
	Well, actually on 9-11 itself, I mean, again, I'm not a structural engineer, and that's
	Richard Gage comes in, and he can speak to it much more articulately than I can from a structural standpoint.
	But there was a makeshift... I can speak to this.
	There was a makeshift morgue on Liberty Island.
	That's where the Statue of Liberty is right there.
	And we were expecting 20,000 bodies.
	It was very hectic that day.
	I sort of try to forget it.
	You know, subliminally push it down, but my XO at the time, now I wasn't there, I wasn't present when he heard it, but he was in civilian, he was in civvies, he was in civilian clothing.
	So he was taken in and mistakenly taken in his military.
	Now I didn't hear this, I wasn't there, but he was taken into a briefing and they had a satellite overlay.
	Of Ground Zero with a bunch of red dots.
	And it was UEDs.
	Unexploded Devices.
	Now that's not hearsay.
	He told me that.
	I won't say his name on air.
	It was Army Corps of Engineers.
	It was all branches of the military.
	And then there were actually passes.
	Now that I saw, they actually had passes.
	Printed passes to get in.
	They were already ready within hours to control the crime scene because they needed to control it.
	They needed to make sure that that evidence was covered up.
	I want to go to Luke Rodowski here in a few minutes, but I want to keep you on.
	Specifically, when you first called in yesterday, you were, and we ran out of time, you were talking about, you know, other issues, other instances.
	You mentioned 93.
	You mentioned other things that had happened.
	Well, there's all, there's all, the blind sheik, the blind sheik, see again, I'm treading on grounds here, but the blind sheik... Shake Abdelrahman out of the New Jersey Pizza Place.
	Yeah, right above, it was above the police place, that's in Journal Square.
	There is all kinds of intel that we simply don't have access to.
	And we're the New Jersey City Police Department, how, how do, we don't have a terrorist task force?
	We should be... If it is a so-called hotbed of terrorist activity...
	How are we not involved?
	You know about Ahmad Salam.
	The FBI hires him, they have him cook the bomb, train the driver.
	This is real Muslim terrorists, but they literally create the group, point it at the trade center, tell them to park it up against the pillar.
	Thank God they didn't.
	That's on record because Ahmad Salam figured out they were setting him up.
	He wasn't really a Muslim extremist.
	He had been hired to do this by the FBI.
	He recorded them, so they had to pay him a million three.
	But I mean, look, it's been in the New York papers, the New Jersey papers, the Pennsylvania papers, that the firefighters and police found three of the four boxes.
	That's actually come out in congressional testimony, and the FBI seized them.
	Why?
	Grab the flight recorders.
	What are they covering up?
	But we know, the way it works, Alex, it really is like TV.
	I mean, it really is like the movies.
	The way they portray
	The relationship between local police and FBI.
	You know when the Fed comes on the scene and the local cop just flips them off?
	That's pretty much the way it is.
	We're just glorified security guards.
	So we don't have access to this?
	Well, the way it's supposed to work, unless it was a federal marshal with a directive from the President or the Congress, they're not supposed to be involved.
	You see, everything is ass-backwards, excuse that term, but that's what it is.
	It's all backwards.
	The states are supposed to be sovereign, and they're supposed to kiss your boots, not the other way around.
	Yeah, but you know what, to take that posture, what you want to do is, I mean, I think we just need more access.
	No, I know, but that's not going to happen as long as we have Feds running things.
	Look, the Feds covered up for Madoff while he stole not $50, but $100 billion.
	Okay, and now they're covering for him again.
	So, I mean, the Feds are foreign.
	A foreign bank has hijacked America.
	It's a corporate takeover.
	Any other key points concerning 9-11 or anything else about your XO, your commander, going in there and into that military briefing, out there at the makeshift morgue, out there at the Statue of Liberty, and anything else he saw on those overlays?
	Any other little tidbits that are important for people out there?
	No, it was basically, you know, an overlay map, satellite overlay.
	And again, I didn't see this.
	This is a corner of my XO.
	The Army Corps had sealed it off.
	Now, that was later on that night.
	That was actually after Plaza 7 fell.
	I got evacuated from Battery Park.
	So we went directly from Battery Park to Liberty Island.
	Now, we just sort of brushed each other as he went in.
	And then when he came out, he had this befuddled look on his face, and I asked him, I said,
	Oh, what's going on?
	Actually, my badge number was 9-11 on 9-11.
	And he looked at my badge number and he goes, you know your badge number?
	I remember he was the first individual to say that to me.
	That's amazing.
	Well, I mean, I know you had Richard Gage into town to speak to folks.
	Did that have an effect on your colleagues?
	No.
	You know, again, I think it's just a befuddlement.
	I think people just can't wrap their minds around it.
	And to tell you the truth, you know what they're most likely going to do?
	I'm a 15-year vet.
	You know, they're going to wind up, you know, sending me for a psych.
	I'm staying as the next guy.
	But, you know, I know what I'm up against here.
	Yeah, and I guess if you show them all the CNN clips of them saying they blew the building up, I guess all them need psych evaluations as well, right?
	I know what's going to happen.
	Yeah, we're all a bunch of testosterone-driven, you know, knuckleheads that...
	Well, as more of you stand up and speak out, and we commend your courage, we're not going to be able to get away with this, the establishment wouldn't be attacking us with all these TV shows and programs if it wasn't happening.
	Let's bring up Luke Rudowsky.
	Stay there, Detective Carroll.
	Luke, now We Are Change, he's the founder of WeAreChange, wearechange.org, 100 plus chapters all over the world, 9-11 truth and other activism against the globalists.
	Now you guys, Luke, have the FBI going around
	You mean the new chapter that we have in our organization?
	Well, just two weeks ago we had Jesse Ventura and many Not-11 family members and rescue workers down at Ground Zero.
	We're out there every Saturday giving out free DVDs and free flyers to the public out there about the truth behind Not-11.
	And two weeks ago we had Jesse Ventura, and then last week we had one of our supporters.
	We have many supporters at the Ground Zero community that support us and are huge fans of ours, but are not members.
	And one of the people that just works down at Ground Zero, he wished not to be disclosed, said he was questioned by the FBI, people with FBI badges, about our group.
	And he just came to us last week.
	This is the week before we had Jesse Ventura.
	You know, I haven't been keeping touch with Jesse or you guys.
	I've been so busy on other things, but I didn't know Ventura was up in New York.
	I wish you guys would let me know about that.
	I'd have come in.
	Yeah, I knew he was going back to New York for that.
	Yeah, and he stopped by Ground Zero.
	We had a lot of family members, a lot of rescue workers.
	It was an amazing day two weeks ago at Ground Zero.
	How long was he at Ground Zero?
	What happened?
	How long was he at Ground Zero?
	He was only there for, you know, about around an hour or so.
	Not that long at all.
	I need to give him a call.
	He emailed me the other day.
	I need to give him a call because I'm working with him on that.
	We'll see where that TV program goes.
	Luke, what do you think of Detective John Carroll and what he has to say?
	I mean, it's a beautiful thing.
	We definitely need more police officers and more people in the military on our side.
	We get a lot of support, again, in the community at Ground Zero from a lot of people.
	And it's sad seeing these people being questioned and harassed by the FBI about our organization.
	But again, we have nothing to hide.
	We're a peaceful organization.
	We want to work with the police, with the military, against the elite, against the New World Order that enslaved us.
	Yeah, stay there, stay there.
	Fighting for the interest of the United States against the New World Order.
	We're the true patriots.
	Yeah, it was lonely.
	Years before 9-11, making films about government-sponsored terrorism, like America Destroyed by Design in 97, Police State 2000, and other documentaries.
	And then months before 9-11, saying call the White House, tell them don't blow up the World Trade Center.
	First and only time I've said call the White House and tell them don't blow up the buildings.
	Because I can see all the preparation on the news.
	The preparation of the public mind.
	And that's on record.
	You know, that aired many times on AXS TV, that I aired July 25th live, and I turned the tape in that day, and it aired a few times.
	It aired on the morning of 9-11 again, and we got a bunch of death threats.
	People thought I was on there, on the day, saying it was an inside job, when it was two months old.
	But Jimmy Vaughn, my good friend, who I didn't even know at the time, he saw me live say, call the White House.
	He was on the fence about me.
	And then, two months later, he saw the attack on the World Trade Centers, and he said, oh my God, this stuff is really accurate.
	So I'm on record saying that, and that's what studying these people can do for you.
	You can really understand where they're going to strike next, their basic psychology, their criminology.
	I want to hold Luke and Detective John Carroll over five minutes to the next segment.
	Then we have the author of Target Patent.
	It's now come out that what we already knew was true.
	The CIA with the NKVD, what was OSS at the time, with the NKVD killed George S. Patton because he wanted, he didn't want
	To let the Russians keep 12,000 U.S.
	soldiers that had been captured by the Nazis, the Russians took over those camps and said, we want them for slave labor and for intel.
	And Patton said, hell no, I'm going public.
	And they said, die, U.S.
	government, die, sucker.
	Troops don't mean jack, squat to us.
	That's now mainstream news.
	So for the cops out there that can't believe this, can't get it through their heads, or the public can't get it through their heads, they killed Patton over this stuff.
	They think of you as dog meat.
	Any comments on the dust, on Patton, just on any of this historically, Detective Carroll, and then Luke?
	Well, I believe they're capable of doing pretty much anything, so I don't know enough about the topic that I would have to research it, but I take you at your word.
	A little light-hearted thing.
	I really appreciated you when you were talking to Richard Gage, when you were interviewing, I should tell you, Richard Gage, and he was speaking about the imposing hit piece that's going to be coming.
	Oh, yeah.
	I like the way you presented it.
	It was almost like, buckle up, pal.
	Wake up to reality.
	Rich is a good man, but he's a good man and a great man.
	Very articulate.
	I mean, accomplished.
	But there is a very nuanced
	No, you can say.
	And just the way you're just... Don't you know how this business works, pal?
	Buckle up.
	Yeah, no, no.
	He's like Beaver.
	And the other guy's like Eddie Haskell.
	And I don't say that just as my opinion.
	They have a hit piece specialist who makes films only attacking the alternative media, JFK researchers.
	So he is a specialist.
	Luke Rudowsky, your comments on the media and all these hit pieces coming out against us.
	Well, again, they don't care.
	They don't care about the family members.
	They don't care about the rescue workers.
	They don't care about the police officers.
	It's about us getting the information out there and educating the people.
	Absolutely.
	Stay there, Luke Rudowsky.
	And, of course, John Carroll.
	The fourth hour is straight ahead.
	We're live at PrisonPlanet.tv.
	Yeah.
	Alright, final segment with our two guests.
	Anything else you want to add to Detective Carroll or your email, your contact points for other police, other peace officers in the New Jersey, New York surrounding area that want to join with you to form, I guess, police and military against the 9-11 cover-up or for a 9-11 investigation or whatever you want to call it.
	You want to give out a contact point?
	Yeah, email me at jmkj.
	Jmkj918 at Comcast.net.
	Again, give that email out again slowly for folks, please, sir.
	Jmkj918 at Comcast.net.
	All right.
	And come out to Ground Zero with Luke and the guys and the gals.
	I mean, I know you've been having some events of your own, but let's all join forces here.
	Oh, absolutely.
	And just leaving
	I just want to be very specific about this, because I am coming out.
	I am trained very well.
	I know exactly what I'm doing here.
	So I'm going to be very specific.
	I'm calling on all angels.
	That means I'm calling to all the patriots that are listening, especially military and police.
	This is our responsibility.
	This is what we're doing.
	Everybody, you're either going to be a hero or you're not.
	This is what we're trained to do.
	Wake up.
	Don't be a dope.
	Get a mitt.
	Get in the game.
	Because I think it's going to get worse from here.
	God bless you.
	Absolutely.
	Don't leave.
	I want to have Luke say, you know, hi to you here as well.
	Luke, I hope you guys get in touch with each other and I hope more people come out to Ground Zero.
	A recap here where We Are Change is going right now.
	Right now, we're making a new film.
	Right now, we're working very hard.
	We're out there every Saturday.
	We're out there having meetings every Friday.
	We're doing excellent work.
	There's a lot of amazing, good people behind us.
	A lot of great police officers.
	I want to salute the detective.
	Thank him so much from the bottom of my heart.
	There's a lot of good cops out there, but we're also going through a lot of harassment by a lot of bad cops out there.
	Recently, we went out to confront Henry Polson, where I was confronted by police officers trying to arrest me for no reason.
	I have the video of the police officer basically stopping me, harassing me, screaming at me for no reason at all for standing on the street corner where Henry Paulson was supposed to be walking by.
	Well he's our God!
	He's stolen 8.5 trillion.
	We have to love the foreign banker.
	Exactly.
	And the Secret Service even admitted when we ran up to Paulson and we asked him, how come you threaten martial law?
	How come you threatened Congress and the Senate with martial law?
	He grabbed the camera, and when Paulson got in his car, he was like, yeah, we were watching you all day.
	And then we heard everything that they were talking about with other people inside the event, that they overheard the Secret Service guys talking about us.
	Luke, have you gotten this Paulson footage up on the web yet?
	Not yet.
	We're working on it.
	We're working on the film right now.
	Well, you know, did you get all the videos I just mailed you?
	I did not get anything yet.
	Okay, well I know I've seen Rob running around here dubbing videos for you guys to use for weeks, so I don't know what's going on.
	We just moved, it's quite a mess.
	But yet again, there's a lot of good police officers that need to educate all the other police officers because the level of harassment is really escalating with FBI officials talking to our supporters down at Ground Zero that are not even a part of our group, that are just there working, supporting us.
	So we need to educate as many people as we can.
	Well that's because the system is threatened and folks can find out more at wearechange.org and you got a lot of new chapters right Luke?
	Yeah, we have over 77 chapters all around the world.
	Our new chapter is in Hawaii.
	We're working every day all around the world, being the change that we want to see in this world.
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	Okay, ladies and gentlemen, this weekend, I was blown away to see this headline.
	It then made headlines all across the world.
	London Telegraph
	General George S. Patton was assassinated to silence his criticism of Allied leaders' claims.
	New book.
	And in this article, it goes through the evidence that I read little blurbs in other books, other espionage books, other World War II guests, that we interviewed letters from Patton home to family and others, his promise to have parades and go to Congress and demand that thousands of U.S.
	soldiers captured by Nazis that were then, when the Russians on the Eastern Front came into Germany and Poland, they captured these U.S.
	servicemen, Army airmen, Army Marines, and we're going to use them as slave labor
	The number is as high as 12,000.
	He got very upset about that, very patriotic, extremely patriotic, but actually did, you know, have allegiance to his troops.
	He expected a lot of them, but, and I don't claim to be, I'm some expert historian on Patton, but most people don't even read about World War II.
	I've read a few books about Patton, probably read about more than 60 books total about World War II, because it's such a pivotal sea change in world society.
	But when I read this, this is what experts, you know, that we've had on over the years said about how they favorite OSS slash CIA way to kill somebody.
	They rammed his car with a truck, jumped up, shot him with a low-velocity bullet in the throat, didn't kill him, so then they sent in NKVD to kill him.
	And we knew he was saying the Russians were a threat that, you know, that same thing MacArthur got relieved from when the Chinese poured across
	The Yalu River there in Korea, he wanted to use nukes, and then they went to the UN and stopped the whole deal because, of course, MacArthur wasn't at that grid level, which is now totally declassified, that actually the United States put the Soviets in with money in 1917.
	I think so.
	And so the but but you know I'm getting off the issue here and I appreciate our guest joining us but this is an example of General George S Patton who was upset about a lot of things being murdered and the London Telegraph's gone over the evidence and says they believe it's conclusive.
	The author talked to the famous OSS spy and assassin before he died.
	He also has his diary and a lot of other eyewitness reports and material and it fits in with it's kind of like Gulf of Tonkin.
	You know, we always knew that was staged, but now it's declassified.
	CIA admits it.
	Well, same thing here.
	So we have the expert on with us for the next 15 minutes, and I appreciate Robert K. Wilcox, author of Target Patent.
	And this is a book I will be getting, and I will be reading.
	In fact, we have an online bookstore at InfoWars.com.
	Maybe I should call a publisher and buy a few hundred and sell them on the site, because this is something people need to know.
	But again, thank you so much for coming on the show with us, Mr. Wilcox.
	Glad to be with you, Alex.
	Tell us about yourself, how you got into this as a historian, and then break down what really happened to Patton.
	Well, I'm a writer, and I'm always looking for good stories, and my cousin owns a detective agency, and we were working out one day, and he just blurts out that he knew that Patton had been killed because he talked to the guy
	We're good to go.
	I then, as you mentioned earlier, went and talked to Douglas Bazzata, who was, in fact, an OSS assassin.
	Now, I want to preface this by saying that Bazzata had lived a long life as a clandestine.
	He had stayed on after World War II.
	He had been one of the first Jedbirds.
	This was the beginning of our Special Forces.
	And had jumped in to behind Nazi lines in conjunction with D-Day and had organized the Maquis.
	Sterling guy.
	And one of the things I did was go right into the National Archives and found his records.
	Luckily, they had been finally declassified.
	And this guy had won as many medals as anybody.
	He was just a terrific, terrific guy.
	But he had spent a long time as a clandestine and would have never talked to me in a million years, I'm sure.
	But he had had a stroke, and he also had been promised that he would be given a big job in the CIA, and when he came back, of course, they didn't know who he was.
	There are never any records of anything like here.
	He had to fight to get all of his VA benefits for being stabbed, shot, all these other things.
	And he became very, very mad about it all.
	Yeah, that's why E. Howard Hunt went public.
	He knows that he killed his wife, blew her up, and, you know, he did a deathbed confession about running the op to kill Kennedy.
	But side issue, please continue.
	Yeah, well, so that's very true.
	So all these things conversed, and I got him when he was sort of, his guard was down.
	And he just began to tell me about it.
	And while I did not think that he had been involved, I thought he just knew.
	He then told me that he had been given an order by the head of the OSS, Wild Bill Donovan, to kill Patton.
	And this, by the way, was the result of a long plot which was, we could call, stop Patton.
	And this is bonafide.
	And when you read in Target Patton, my book, you'll see that way, way back in 44 and 43, they began to not like Patton.
	Tremendous jealousy because he was so good.
	He was anti-communist, he wasn't a globalist, he was America.
	He had this long pedigree, closely related to George Washington and some of the famous Confederate generals.
	So he had this incredible pedigree that they didn't have.
	And we know that Eisenhower was very, very jealous of him because he was just a desk clerk and he wasn't playing ball with Uncle Joe.
	But the key here is this assassin, and that's what the Telegraph researched your book, and they say, yeah, this guy hung out with the royal family.
	Stalin.
	This guy was like an undercover movie star with the elite, you know, this commando.
	So, you know, he is who he says he was, and you have the government records.
	Very much so.
	And I became very impressed with him, not because of basically what he told me, but by going in and researching him, everything he told me was true.
	So, when we get to this point, you know, I've got to give him the benefit of the doubt when he told me about this.
	But, anyway, Patton, as you've so ably described, you know, he wanted to go to war with the Russians right then.
	He was very pre-issued.
	He saw what was going on.
	There are so many motives.
	That's the word for Patton.
	He was prescient.
	That's the key to a good general.
	Absolutely.
	Go ahead.
	And he was fighting, basically, an administration which started with FDR and then, by the time this happened,
	With Truman, who was just following FDR, that loved the Russians.
	They wanted to do everything they could.
	FDR called Stalin Uncle Joe, and they were so blinded, or worse, because Stalin just wanted, as you know, to take over Eastern Europe and use it as a buffer, and that's what he got.
	And Patton was just nuts over this.
	They thought he was nuts.
	He was so mad because he said... The looting of the jewels of the Western world as gulag slaves.
	And of course, they mention a line of it.
	I haven't read your book yet.
	A line about U.S.
	prisoners.
	I haven't read your book yet.
	Is it in there about the 11,000?
	It is in there.
	That was another thing that Patton was livid over.
	You know, once they took over those countries,
	Whoever was in there, including American soldiers, they were just chucked off to the gulag, and that is still an untold story.
	I believe you can find books about it now.
	Some numbers say 22,000, but confirmed right at 12,000, U.S.
	soldiers who were in German camps, the Russians take them over, and then our government just said, screw our troops, and Patton's like, screw our troops, so here he is getting in trouble for slapping cowards around.
	Oh, he cared terribly about them.
	And it was worse than even what you've said.
	I mean, FDR squelched and told people that they could not talk.
	This is FDR himself.
	You know the famous Katyan massacre?
	Where the Russians massacred most of the Polish leadership so they could take over the country, and then blamed it on the Nazis.
	Yes.
	Well, the Russians have now admitted this in the last few years, what had really happened, that it was the Russians.
	Yeah, they dug up the bodies, and there's even Russian bayonets and bullets in them.
	Exactly.
	Well, there's no question, because the Russians have admitted it now.
	They've, you know, sort of cleansed their soul type of thing, that it was us.
	But at that time,
	FDR would not allow the records that he had commissioned, an investigation, to be made public because it made the Russians look bad.
	They were such a dirtbag.
	And from what I've read, I haven't read your book yet, the last straw though was the 12,000 troops going to death camps.
	Well, I can't confirm that, but that is the figure that I've heard, too.
	And I know that there were Americans that were taken away.
	Well, how dare Patton not want to send U.S.
	troops to Russian camps for no reason?
	He deserved to die.
	He wasn't a good American.
	And, of course, that's what Wild Bill said.
	He said, he's a great patriot, but I need you to kill him.
	Yeah, this is the culmination of a series of meetings that Bozada said he had, which started with the stop, Patton.
	And it's a historical fact, we know.
	That when Patton, after he'd roared through France, he was poised in 1944, in September, to go into Germany, he would have ended that war in a month or two, and imagine all the American lives that would have been saved.
	Well, they stopped him because Eisenhower, who was a diplomat, not a fighter, not a... He got, he wanted the British to, you know, the bridge too far, Montgomery.
	And he wanted Montgomery to do this, so they stopped Patton at the German border, and they took his gas.
	This is a matter of historical record.
	Yeah, that's even in the Battle of the Bulge movie.
	And of course, that's kind of the official spin.
	They really wanted the Soviets to get half the country.
	Well, uh... At what happened afterwards... I meant Germany, half of Germany.
	Go ahead.
	Yeah, because Patton couldn't go in there, he had to go
	Well, riveting.
	Stay there, sir.
	We're going to come right back to you and let you go through the book play-by-play here.
	I know I'm interrupting a lot.
	This is just such amazing history.
	Target Patent is the book.
	You can buy it at Amazon.com.
	Google it.
	Stay with us.
	All right, this is a short segment.
	We've got a long one coming up, so I want to hurry right back to our guest, Robert K. Wilcox.
	Wilcox, author of Target Patent.
	That's right, he interviewed the Special Forces OSS assassin.
	All right, let's go through with the start of Stop Patent, discredit him, attack him, don't let him
	Race too fast because we've got to let the Soviets divide this in half.
	We've got to deal with them.
	Kind of like the Nazis divided Poland previously in 1939.
	Continue.
	Well, that stop-patent order came out early.
	And, you know, it's a combination.
	He was just a guy who spoke his mind.
	He was too good for his own britches, so to speak.
	He was better than anybody else.
	And he proved it.
	He just roared through France.
	And so they stopped him right there.
	And what happened was the Germans, who will tell you themselves that they were in disarray and would have been defeated, they then were able to regroup.
	Because he was running a blitzkrieg similar to what the Desert Fox would do, but by holding them back that gave them time.
	Go ahead.
	He traveled and took more ground than any commander ever in the history of the world at that time.
	His tanks were rolling, you know, four or five hundred miles.
	In three or four days.
	Well, not three or four days, but maybe in a week.
	And it was just amazing.
	And the Germans were in disarray.
	He had pushed them out of France.
	They didn't know what to do.
	They would have been beaten.
	It was a rout.
	It was a rout, big time.
	And he couldn't believe that suddenly they're stopping him and they're giving the whole war to Montgomery, his arch rival.
	And Montgomery blew it again, which he had done so many times.
	And the worse,
	The Germans were able to mount this, get back together and mount a battle, a battle of the bulge, which almost kicked us out of France.
	But if it hadn't, but there was Patton right there, and Eisenhower, who had set this all up, just, you know, he called his generals together and said, what are we going to do?
	What are we going to do?
	They didn't know what to do, but Patton said, I know what to do.
	I'd already planned for it.
	And he turned this huge Third Army all the way up, and stopped the Battle of the Bulge, and beat the Germans there, and then was sent back into Germany, and the worst thing that ever happened to him, the day he cried, literally, was when he could not go to Berlin.
	But the Allies, our side, decided to let the Russians come in, as was all planned by Stalin.
	He had engineered all this.
	And they took Berlin and the rest of Eastern Europe, and Patton had to sit on the sidelines.
	So that is probably, in my opinion, the biggest reason if he was killed.
	And understand, it is a mystery still to me, but I believe that I could go to a grand jury and get an indictment based on what we now know.
	Whether or not it would go to a conviction, we'd have to let that play out.
	But there's a lot more evidence here, and when you're ready, I'll just start it off.
	Yeah, let's go over what happened.
	You know, the failed assassination attempt that wounded him, and then the NKVD finishing the job.
	Yeah, as I said when I first heard about this, I, like most people, thought that he had just died in a normal accident.
	But then I studied the accident, and it is really, really mysterious.
	It's the last day before Patton is to leave.
	There have already been three or four very, very suspicious attempts on his life, in my opinion, which you'll read.
	And then here's the last day he's decided to leave the army because they have strings on him so that he can go home and he's going to fight against the Russians, which of course is anathema to the administration.
	And he's also going to tell the secrets of how the war had been badly managed and how so many Americans died when they shouldn't have, how he could have gone on and
	He's on this lonely road outside of Mannheim, Germany.
	It's December 9th, 1945.
	Probably 60 years ago.
	And it's just a lonely road, and there's this army truck that's been waiting for him.
	They stop at a railroad track, and then they start up.
	So they're not going very fast.
	And the driver, there's two other people in the car with Patton, another general who is his aide.
	is on the left side, Patton's on the right side in the back seat.
	They're in a Cadillac, which is a limousine.
	It's a big, it's a big thing.
	It's got a lot of leg room.
	And there's a driver there.
	And this driver notices this truck, which starts up when they start up after the, the, um, the railroad track.
	And it just comes up slowly, almost abreast.
	And then suddenly, without signaling, turns in front of Patton's car.
	Patton's driver tries to turn a little to the left.
	They hit on the right hand side.
	It's really a fender bender.
	But Patton ends up with a broken neck, a tremendous cut on his face, and the other two guys don't even move.
	Now this is strange.
	Why did this happen?
	How could they have a smash and two guys in the car don't get scratched?
	Stay there, stay there.
	By the way, in declassified admitted MI6 and CIA assassinations, these staged auto accidents are their favorite.
	They will kill you, put you in a car, and then smash a truck into it.
	Or they will smash a truck in it, then kill you.
	That's how they killed Diana.
	So a favorite way to kill.
	We'll be right back.
	Stay with us.
	This is the end, beautiful friend.
	This is the end, my only friend.
	The end of our deliberate plans.
	The end of everything.
	All right, Robert K. Wilcox, author of Target Patents, our guest.
	Look, what we know is this.
	It's in mainline history, but there were at least 12,000, right at 12,000.
	Some estimates are above 22,000.
	Let's just say 12,000 U.S.
	troops captured in Poland, captured in eastern Germany and other areas, captured out in the Caucasus, captured in Serbia, what's Serbia today.
	I mean, he's a lot of these highly decorated special forces and people.
	And what did they get for that?
	Ask Stalin, we love you.
	We love what you're doing.
	Our bankers love you.
	They love your new world order.
	We're going to just let you keep those guys.
	How's that sound?
	A little present.
	We'll never see their families again.
	You'll work them to death, torture them to get all our secrets.
	That's okay, because we love you.
	And Patton was hopping mad about that and he died.
	So he's in the car, fender bender, but in that second of the jolt...
	That's a Secret Service favorite.
	They'll have their patsy just shoot a .22 in the air, and then they grab the president and pump the round in him up against him.
	But side issue, they love distractions, they love sleight of hand.
	That's how they killed Yishak Rabin.
	They shot him in the car on the way to the hospital, and we've interviewed the folks from the hospital, the coroner, the doctors, everybody.
	But let's continue with, okay, so this truck pulls in front, and they have a small fender bender with his Cadillac.
	What happened next?
	Well, everybody speculated when the crash ends, Patton is laying on the General next to him, and he's got a bloody face, and he's got a broken neck.
	The other guys are not even fazed.
	And to jump ahead a little bit, Douglas Pizzotta, the OSS assassin, said that he shot through the window a special air-blown type
	uh... gun that was specially made uh... and he's behind a bunch of of uh... old directs and so on which and they actually engineered away this this uh... uh... truck that that turned without without signaling uh... set up a a firing lane for bazaar and he shot what what amounted to a bolt that would not enter the body but would break the neck and that that's what pushed patten right across this guy but nobody saw
	In the car, what happened?
	The General, who was next to him, was looking out the left-hand window.
	Patton is looking out the right-hand window, and the driver's forward.
	And the last thing Patton says, according to a memoir which I found, is that, look at that!
	Which makes you wonder, what's he saying?
	Look at what?
	Look at what?
	At a gun pointed at him?
	At a guy shooting at him, or what?
	Then, bam, the crash.
	As you said, in that instant, boom, there's the crash.
	And then he's laying on top of the General.
	The general and the driver all speculated without seeing that Patton had flown through the air in the car and had hit his head on a
	You know, a post that's in between the driver... By the way, that's what they said Benazir Bhutto died from, and they released the video of her being machine-gunned, and the bullets going, they said she hit her head.
	So that's it.
	I hope nobody shoots me and I'm on TV being shot with bullets, you know, like Scarface, and they go, oh look, he hit his head!
	That's so true, and this, as you said, this is the major number one way to kill people, because an accident
	Always looks like an accident.
	And even this bolt that he hit, that he says he hit Patton with in the face, it goes into the wreckage and then you don't, nobody thinks anything of it.
	It's not a bullet, it didn't enter his body.
	And this kind of thing.
	So it's so heavy, a big bolt, it hits you and then snaps the neck.
	That's right.
	Concussion weapon.
	Well, that's what Bazzata said.
	You know, I've never done it, but that's it.
	And I have to take him at his word that, you know, this is part of the mystery of all this.
	But anyway, so the speculation was that he had somehow hit something and broken his neck that way.
	Well, I can tell you, I had an accident investigator look at this scene, and because of the way that the car turned just before the hit, Patton would never have flown through the air the four feet in the back of the car, strictly longitudinally.
	The direction of the car when it hit would have made him hit just the window that he was looking at.
	So that is false anyway, but this is the story that has always gone down, and all the historians just picked it up.
	You know, they write their great books about Patton's life.
	When it comes down to how he died, do they want to spend another two years
	To investigate it like I did?
	No, and they didn't.
	But what about the media, though?
	I mean, I haven't seen the film in decades, but don't they have a horse cart killing him?
	Well, now, this is, I mentioned earlier, there were three or four instances that I think were attempts to kill him earlier.
	And that is one of them.
	In that famous film, Patton, at the end, there's a cart, and this did happen.
	He was in a Jeep, and a cart comes out of an alley that he's driving by, and it has a scythe on it.
	That's a long stick with a knife on it.
	They use it to cut wheat with.
	And this scythe just about cuts his head off, but it misses him.
	That's one of three attempts before what I'm talking about.
	Let's go over the other.
	Let's briefly go over the other attempts.
	The earliest was another type Jeep accident, where he has just hit in a car.
	Okay.
	He's in a Jeep, and he is injured a little bit.
	This happened about three months before what I'm talking about.
	But the most sensational one, and the one which is really fishy, is that right at the end of the war, Patton is flying in his Piper Cub, and he's at a very low altitude.
	And all of a sudden, five Spitfires, which are supposedly Polish, and remember the Russians have taken over Poland at this time, five Polish Spitfires see him,
	And four of them circle while one of them goes down and starts shooting at Patton's Piper Cub.
	Thank God the pilot of the Piper Cub is so good, he's able to get so low and into the hills that the Spitfire crashes.
	And this is all in Patton's diaries, and they are livid.
	What's going on here?
	That was, in my opinion, covered up by saying, oh, it was a mistake.
	He was a young guy, and he didn't realize it wasn't a Nazi airplane.
	Well, this is a little Piper Cub.
	You're not going to think this is a Nazi airplane.
	And why are these four other guys circling up there, sort of like watching?
	You know, they're the signal guys.
	So anyway, this ends in the death of the Spitfire pilot.
	And they didn't shoot him down.
	And I think that those three incidents were moving up.
	And so was that Soviets in the captured Polish-German Spitfires?
	You never know.
	There are no records.
	And this is a big part of the evidence here.
	Do you know that I've looked everywhere and there are no records on the accident that I've described, on the Polish Spitfire?
	It's all gone.
	And I'm not talking about two or three
	We're good to go.
	Yeah, he's going to tell secrets.
	He knows they're helping the Soviets.
	He knows they took 12,000 US troops.
	You know, he's going to blow the whistle.
	He's going to destroy the future presidential chances of Dwight D. Eisenhower.
	Absolutely.
	That can't be allowed.
	And the Soviets don't like him.
	You know, they want America to go quietly into the night and go along with Uncle Joe, who already killed 40-something million people by that time.
	Let's go through what they cover in the London Telegraph and then, you know, what's in your book, Target Patent, about
	You know, the collusion.
	But it doesn't kill him.
	He's alive in the hospital.
	What comes next?
	He goes to the hospital and he's going to die.
	Everybody thinks he's going to die.
	I mean, this is a bad thing.
	He can't move from the neck down.
	But he's a tough guy and he rallies.
	And within a week and a half, he's doing so well, there are twitches in his fingers and his legs.
	And they're going to move him, they're going to fly him back to Boston, which is no easy trip at that time, which shows you how well he had become.
	And suddenly he has a downturn, and within 14 hours he's dead.
	And Bazzara says that it was the NKVD that went in there and used a poison on him.
	The cause of death was embolism, which is sort of a blood clot going through your brain.
	A stroke, yeah.
	But there's no autopsy done on Patton, so we don't really know what happened to him.
	And recently, one of the family members of the Pattons was actually approached by a Russian who said, I want to tell you some information.
	And putting it all together, and to be real succinct about it, I think that they used a poison that mimics this, that they can do that, and they were doing both the OSS and
	The NKVD had labs where they made these kinds of poisons, which would mimic a natural cause of death.
	Now again, the NKVD was the internal apparatus for keeping control of the Soviet Union, and it was being brought into Western Europe at that time.
	And specifically, let's get into that while Bill Donovan then made a deal.
	I mean, go specifically through what the assassin told you about this, and then continue.
	Well, even, you know, not many people know that the OSS and the NKVD were in collusion.
	They, early on in the war, Donovan flew to Russia and proposed that the two of them work together, which was a good idea at that time.
	I mean, the Russians were fighting the Nazis, and you know, Donovan is a very enigmatic man, perhaps the most enigmatic of all in World War II.
	And he was a guy who would take a chance.
	You know, he'd make a deal with the devil.
	He's the guy that flew bombers off an aircraft carrier to bomb Tokyo.
	Yeah, I think he's probably his idea.
	I'm not certain about that.
	But anyway, he went there and he made a deal with the NKVD.
	Now, let me say that the NKVD just played him for a fool because they already had so many spies in America, right up to the White House.
	We were inundated in the State Department.
	McCarthy, whatever his methods were, he didn't know the half of it.
	Well, when McCarthy was useful to set up a police state when he was just going after little pinkos, when he found out that the Army was basically running Russia, and if you really study this it sounds like you're pretty educated,
	That communism was only a fake system of the Anglo-American empire, as the head of Georgetown Political Science, Carol Quigley, Bill Clinton's mentor said.
	They wanted to work with fascists and communists, as the Milner Group in England said about 100 years ago, what, 98 years ago, that they wanted to
	To work with tyrannical regimes.
	And so, bottom line, that's why the U.S.
	and England put Mao in, put Lenin in, put all these people in, was, you know, kind of these fake counter-revolutions that look like they're for the people, but they really aren't.
	And so, you know, as long as he was saying it was a communist threat from Russia to take over America, that was fine, when really that's butt backwards.
	It was the globalists that we know of today who were actually finger puppeting the Soviets.
	Go ahead.
	Well, Alex, you're really ahead of me on that one.
	You know an awful lot about that.
	But what I do know is that Venona, which was our breaking of the Russian codes during World War II, and which has been kept secret until just recently,
	Now shows us that there were many, many, many hundreds of spies in our government apparatus, Russian spies, who were telling Stalin daily what was going on.
	So going back to the OSS collusion with the NKVD, they didn't really need it, but they went ahead with it because it served their purposes.
	And they played Donovan like a marionette.
	But again, do you see how the Western overarching Anglo-American Empire used its Soviet base as a system to send in spies that were untraceable, with even the NKVD, KGB spies, in the case of the U.S., not even knowing they were under the control of the larger system?
	Well, that certainly could be true.
	I just don't know any more than what I've done here.
	Well, you know, when McCarthy found out about it, that's when they blew him away.
	That's when they politically shut him down.
	There are probably 20 books here, you know, to detail all this, but all I could really talk about is Patton and what happened to him.
	And, you know, we haven't spoken about one thing, and that is that on the NKVD side, I've tracked down an American agent who was with Patton's armies.
	He was a CIC agent, a counterintelligence agency.
	And his job was to find these kinds of plots.
	And he was dealing with the Russians.
	And he found out that Stalin had put a patent on a death list, a hit list.
	And so he went back and he tried to stop this.
	And he had to deal with Wild Bill Donovan.
	This is all written in this man's book.
	I did not speak to him.
	He died.
	But I found his book, which was really written for his children.
	They gave it to me, and it is an amazing, amazing document, and it talks all about this.
	And through three different sources at three different times, this agent, who had been with Patton and was in Germany at that time, as was Bozada at the time of Patton's death,
	He was run out by Donovan under threat of his life, and he had to live here that way for many years.
	He eventually came out of that and became a Republican staffer type, and he worked for Reagan and some others.
	Both Bozada and this other agent, Steven Skubik, are two great, great witnesses in this.
	They really have a lot of credibility.
	On that side, on the Russian side, Skubik found out that they had this plan, that they were working with the OSS to kill Patton, tried to stop it, and was run out of Germany under threat of his life.
	Just unbelievably amazing.
	When you were talking to the assassin, why was he telling you he was going public about this?
	Well, that's a great question.
	He never would have gone public, but as he came back, as I mentioned to you earlier, he'd been promised a great job with the CIA.
	Nobody knew him.
	He had to fight for his benefits.
	So they screwed him?
	They screwed him royally.
	And he began to see things that he had always kept quiet be put out in books.
	So he became really, really disenchanted with the whole situation.
	And so he actually did, in 1979, make a statement to the Spotlight, which was a newspaper which is no longer around.
	It was in... It's now American Free Press.
	Yes.
	And in that statement, he said, I know who killed Patton because I was given money to do so.
	It wasn't me, but I know who did it.
	This was his first act of kind of
	I'm tired of this.
	I'm not going to sit on this any longer.
	His father, by the way, was a Presbyterian minister of great reputation in New Jersey, and he had a lot of pangs about that, living the life that he had as an assassin for many, many years for his government.
	He just had to get this out of him, and when he had the stroke,
	That finally broke down his barriers, and I came along, and he began to tell me this whole thing.
	That's right.
	As we prepare to go across the River Styx, a lot of people finally have that courage to tell the truth and get the wickedness off their chest.
	Will you do it before you die?
	This is not America.
	Patton refused to be quiet.
	About 12,000 U.S.
	troops captured by the Soviets out of German prisoner of war camps going to slave gulags.
	Few of the men escaped.
	Books are written about the subject.
	There's been mainstream news shows about it.
	But they claim the U.S.
	didn't know.
	No, the U.S.
	knew and could care less about those troops.
	That's how evil the government was then.
	Can you imagine how bad they are now?
	Sir, I want to have you back up for a full hour in the next few weeks after the New Year, just to take calls from listeners and all the angles they're going to cover.
	I'm going to get your book, Target Patent.
	I know it's available at Amazon.com and bookstores everywhere, and I hope people will get it.
	In closing, we've got about two minutes left.
	Other key points you haven't gotten to?
	Not really.
	I think we've covered... Well, yes, there is one great one.
	The fake car.
	I thought that I would go to the Patton Museum, where they have the car, they say, that Patton was injured in, and I would be able to, at last, you know, sort of see the crime scene and see what happened there.
	Well, I took an expert from Detroit on Cadillacs, specifically that Cadillac, the 1938
	Cadillac Limousine 7533 is what it's technically called, and we found out that that is not the car.
	It's a 1939 car that has been rebuilt, and the major discovery was that, you know, a VIN number, you can take a VIN even today, it's a vehicle identification number, it's soldered into the chassis, and every car has it.
	And this VIN number was scraped out.
	So there's no question that somebody wanted the museum to think that it was the real car, which they did, but it is not the real car.
	It's a 1939.
	So more evidence of cover-up.
	We're going to have to have you back.
	Do you want to fire out your specific website, Mr. Wilcox?
	Sure.
	I'm at www.robertkwilcox.com.
	That's my name, Robert K. Wilcox, but as you said, Amazon has the book, and it's something that everyone needs to read.
	All right, I want you to have a great Christmas, great holiday, and again, I want to have you back up for an hour sometime in January.
	I'll be glad, Alex.
	Thank you very much.
	Thank you for coming on.
	Great knowledge, everything that guy says checks out with my own research, and then he expands on it for us.
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	I may be live Friday.
	Tomorrow I'm going to be downtown serving homeless.
	There's a lot of groups doing that, but I'm going to be with my children and my wife downtown.
	I'm not saying I'm going to eat two shoes, but that's how I help the community.
	I also give money to groups feeding the homeless and helping old people because we have to
	Teach our children not to be decadent.
	We have to show people how poor folks are living.
	So it's also an education.
	That's how I'm enriched by helping them.
	And it's our job to do that.
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