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	Big Brother, Mainstream Media, Government Cover-Ups.
	You want answers?
	Well, so does he.
	He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
	And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
	Welcome, ladies and gentlemen.
	Welcome.
	I am not Alex Jones.
	I happen to be Jason Burmess, and I will be filling in today, Sunday, and then all the way through Thursday as Alex begins to venture off
	To the DNC.
	Very exciting stuff.
	In fact, he was promoting that on, I believe it was Peter Boyle's radio show.
	Maybe able to get that on a stream later today.
	And we'll be playing that, hopefully, in the third hour or fourth hour.
	But basically, he got on with Luke of We Are Change and Jonathan Ellenhoff of We Are Change, who will be joining us later today as well, against one of the
	Founders of Recreate 68, and apparently it got very heated, so I'm very anxious to hear that.
	We're going to be talking about Building 7.
	It's all over the place.
	Made CNN last night.
	Of course, the mystery is solved.
	The mystery is solved.
	Apparently, you know, it wasn't scooped out.
	The fires weren't that hot.
	But a center beam expanded, and there was a disconnect, I believe, on the 13th floor.
	Just one.
	Of these many, many columns, and zero resistance, just everything began to fall inward, and that's why the facade of the building fell with the internal structure, apparently, according to S. Siam Sunder and his ragtag band of NIST cover-up artists.
	The CNN piece does show our InfoWars reporter Shane Geiger, who's going to be joining us as well today.
	Uh, asking part of his question what they don't show is where they turn the lights off on him and basically do not answer his question.
	I mean, you can tell they don't answer his question from this, uh, New York Times article where they basically say that First they lie and say no one died in World Trade Center 7.
	We've just proven that on several occasions.
	There's mainstream reports of a couple people dying, but we all know Barry Jennings' first account, which is in, uh, Fabled Enemies, and, uh, you can check that out.
	I think the, uh, most of the Barry Jennings interview is posted
	With a little bit of context for a preview of Fabled Enemies right now.
	And remember, you can pre-order that at InfoWars.com.
	It's going to be available at PrisonPlanet.tv on August 31st.
	But they say it was ridiculous.
	And that there was no way, so they didn't even look at it.
	You know?
	It's... Skeptics have questioned if explosives were planted in at Seven World Trade Center as well as the Twin Towers and the Pentagon.
	The Pentagon, you know, why do they even bring the Pentagon in?
	It's ridiculousness.
	As the Bush administration was seeking a justification to invade Iraq and Afghanistan, what started as a small number of such conspiracy theorists has only ballooned into a movement of sorts, largely fed by internet sites that promote the theories.
	And then they try to say, you know, one in seven Americans just make up a number.
	I love how they just make up a number.
	Well, we're going to get into that big time today.
	I mean, man,
	You know, Wolf Blitzer gets up there and he's so smug and he's like, Mystery over!
	We know why 7 fell.
	They didn't even have any steel from 7 to use in these tests.
	These are computer models made to do what they want.
	You know, I took 3D modeling and I'll bet anything that they did not rig any kind of physics into these things.
	It's just a model and it represents, I guarantee it's an animation.
	It's nothing more.
	Because the physics would have just proven it!
	It's wild.
	But you know what?
	The debunkers will now harp on this.
	This is the, I believe, the fourth or fifth version of the story, and this will be the new talking point for the debunkers of thermal expansion.
	Coming up in the next segment, we have Benjamin Fulford, the former Forbes editor, an expert of, uh, really, the Eastern ways, I guess.
	It's going to be interesting to talk to him after
	Of course, China having the Olympics out there, I don't know if everybody out there caught the opening ceremony, but very bizarre, very much blurred the line between reality and fantasy by them superimposing things on the screen, such as fireworks.
	I mean, we've all seen the lip-syncing.
	That's kind of, you know, blasé.
	But they took it to another level.
	Plus I want to get his take on the situation over in Georgia and Russia.
	It's Benjamin Fulford on the other side.
	This is the Alex Jones Show.
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	Big Brother.
	Mainstream media.
	Government cover-ups.
	You want answers?
	Well, so does he.
	He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
	And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
	Alright, folks, we are back.
	I am not Alex Jones.
	Once again, I am Jason Bermas, one of the creators of Loose Change.
	You can get that over at InfoWars.com, and we've got a new film coming out called Fabled Enemies.
	We'd like you to get that, too.
	It really goes into the International Intelligence Organization that carried out 9-11.
	It doesn't really focus on the physical anomalies, but it really does trash the report from Building 7 yesterday.
	Right now, joining us, we have Benjamin Fulford.
	He was the former
	How are you, Benjamin?
	Fine, fine, how are you?
	So,
	I mean, you know, the situation in Japan is a bit similar to the U.S., where you have a large, brainwashed public that just believes what their media is telling them, and you have a significant group of people who know the truth.
	And the people who know the truth know that this was an American provocation.
	That, more specifically, they know that
	What's happening is we're dealing with a very, very dangerous situation where we have a group of neo-Nazis who control the U.S.
	who are in deep trouble, and they're trying to dig themselves out of this trouble by starting World War III, or trying to.
	And so the government and the elite people are aware that these people are cornered, they're dangerous, and they're trying
	To somehow create a provocation to start World War III and give them an excuse to impose martial law on the U.S.
	Well, that seems to be what it's coming down to.
	I really hope that they do not achieve their goals.
	It seems like there might be a de-escalation there, but what you're telling me is that the general population over there also thinks that Russia is the aggressor in this situation, and are really just not aware of what's going on?
	Well, I think the aware segment is larger than in the U.S., but unfortunately the mainstream newspapers and television are
	Following the U.S.
	line right now, I mean in terms of the major media.
	Well, I mean, you had Fujita over there, who has, you know, gone before his parliament and basically brought up 9-11 truth.
	I was wondering what the situation is with that.
	Has that progressed any?
	I mean, obviously, the World Trade Center 7 NIST report came out yesterday.
	Of course, they said it was fire, even though it was hundreds of degrees less than they had previously thought.
	And they said that the damage to the building didn't really matter, and it was only one beam that detached after thermal expansion.
	But this caused a perfect symmetrical collapse.
	I mean, look, you know, the people who are totally brainwashed will clutch any straw they need to, you know, keep their little illusionary world around them, right?
	But anybody who knows what's going on knows, and has known for a long time, this is a bunch of BS.
	So do you think there will be any progress over there on the issue of 9-11 truth?
	Well, what's happening over here is that we have a government that was set up by the CIA and the remnants of the military regime of World War II.
	And that regime is coming to an end.
	They're delaying, they can delay the next election until September of next year, but all opinion polls show that they are on their way out.
	So what's happening is, we're headed for a major regime change here in Japan, and so the opposition party that has support of the majority of the population, they are aware of the situation, and there will be truth commissions and all that sort of stuff once this regime is out of the way.
	Well, what kind of power do you think will be given to those kind of commissions?
	I mean, obviously, we won't have a war crimes tribunal much like The Hague.
	I mean, I just don't see that happening.
	I mean, what do you think?
	Oh, there'll be a truth commission like they had in South Africa.
	Basically, people will be named, but nothing will be done.
	Well, you know, they'll be named and shamed, and when you say nothing will be done, I mean, you have to look at it this way.
	I mean, they won't be able to do this anymore.
	But here in Japan,
	The same people who were behind 9-1-1 have been financing certain right-wing groups who function much like the German brownshirts did.
	And they've been murdering politicians and members of the media, as well as industrialists, in order to keep their control over this country for the past 60 years.
	And that will be exposed.
	Well, I certainly hope so, because we've only seen more censorship.
	I mean, in the last few weeks, InfoWars and Prison Planet have been blocked in large segments of the United Kingdom.
	Alex actually did a big contest to make viral videos to make people aware of this.
	And, you know, I see that crackdown happening in this country a little bit soon.
	I don't know what it's like over in Japan.
	How censored is the Internet right now?
	Well, not very.
	I mean, the current regime is sort of like reluctantly following U.S.
	orders to the minimum necessary, with the greatest delay possible.
	That's sort of their policy.
	They try to appear like they're following their official line without really wanting to do it.
	You know, that's what's happening here.
	You've got to remember, the U.S.
	is sort of like the heart of darkness.
	Things look worse from the
	Worst from the point of view of within the United States.
	Now, I didn't know today was not going to, uh, Alex Jones was not going to be here, but there was an issue I wanted to bring up with him because I feel that he has been manipulated by CIA propaganda when it comes to China.
	Well, how so?
	In particular, I wanted to discuss Falun Gong.
	Okay.
	Falun Gong is not a typical religious organization, okay?
	It's a psyops.
	A very big one.
	And it's run by a guy called Elliot Abrams, who is a convicted criminal in the Iran Contra Affair.
	And you can prove that Falun Gong is a psyops just by looking at their financing.
	Look at their bi-monthly
	Uh, called Epoch Times.
	Let's see who publishes it and why it's published in seven languages.
	They have Sound of Hope.
	It's a radio that they broadcast, which is helped by the Broadcasting Board of Governors.
	These are the same people as behind Voice of America, Radio Star, Radio Marquee.
	In other words, it's, uh, it's a CIA front.
	Put in place by Elliott Abrams.
	And then we have a television thing called New Tang Dynasty.
	And again, it's also CIA financed.
	So, whenever Alex Jones says, you know, they are, the Chinese are a fascist regime and the U.S.
	is headed for the same path, he is unwittingly, you know, spreading CIA propaganda.
	Well, I mean, I certainly don't want to be more like China.
	I feel like, you know, China is somewhat of a police state.
	The military and the police are one and the same.
	I mean... Have you been to China?
	I have not been to China.
	That's why you don't understand.
	Anyway, you go to China, okay, and hang out in the street with the Chinese, and see what it's like to live there, and then talk about it, okay?
	The fact is that
	When it comes to the average Chinese now, they are freer than the average American.
	Now, it is true they don't have this big parade and this big fake show called Democracy Has Done the U.S., but you're aware enough now that it's totally rigged.
	Oh, absolutely, but I just think that there has to be some kind of a separation between the military and police, and once you lose that, I mean, you get into dangerous territories.
	I mean, they openly sell dissidence organs on the open market in China.
	Okay, the thing about this whole, for example, Falun Gong dissidence organ thing,
	Okay, that has been proven to be false, okay?
	There was a US CIA fake story about that, and the Chinese invited the international media to visit the hospitals that this was supposed to be taking place, or whatever.
	It is true that for a while they were selling the organs of condemned criminals, okay?
	Yeah.
	And this became a source of major criticism, and they put an end to it, okay?
	But the idea that they're taking Falun Gong people and just selling their organs and torturing them, that has been proven to be false.
	Well, I'll have to look into it.
	I mean, I'm looking at the Epoch Times right now.
	They're talking about organ harvesting, China's labor camp.
	Yeah, Epoch Times again.
	And you're saying that that is a CIA paper.
	Of course you're going to read shit like that.
	I mean, stuff like that.
	Okay.
	I'm sorry.
	Well, you know, again, I don't know enough about it and you kind of put me on the spot here for that, so I'll have to look into it.
	I've got to tell you,
	I can't see myself comfortable in a more eastern eye society.
	I see both cultures kind of gravitating towards one another, which scares me.
	I mean, in the last 20 to 30 years, I mean, we're talking about blue jeans, Coca-Cola over there, obviously, a lot of, you know, westernized eateries or whatever.
	And over here, I see more of a police state.
	And I'm sorry, I just don't know if I would be comfortable
	We're good to go.
	So, you know, obviously my beef is not with every Chinese citizen, and I truly don't know how much freedom a Chinese citizen has on the street, but I do know that they do have a lot of one-child policies.
	Well, the one-child policy is being phased out, but, you know...
	Benjamin, we'll come back to you on the other side.
	I'm going to give you the floor.
	We'd love to hear from you.
	I love your perspective.
	This is the Alex Jones Show.
	You go to InfoWars.com right now and check out Loose Change, Final Cut, or Fabled Enemies.
	We'll be back after this.
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	It is the Alex Jones Show, and ask and you shall receive Benjamin.
	Alex has called in, he just can't get away from that radio.
	He loves to listen in.
	So Alex, you have the floor.
	Hey guys, now I'm the one that told my producer to get Benjamin back on.
	I like Mr. Fulford.
	And I'm here getting ready to go to Denver, packing up and taking care of business with a show on the background.
	And I think it's been misrepresented, what I say and what I do.
	A similar thing is what Tarpley did last year when I had former CIA Section Chief and Black Ops Commander E. Howard Hunt's son on St.
	John Hunt.
	And he released that tape on our show, and the Rolling Stone also covered it.
	Just saying, as far as he knew, the chain of command
	Went all the way to President LBJ and people said, oh Alex says it went to LBJ and no higher.
	No, that's a misrepresentation with our witness and the tape and the written transcripts and affidavits.
	He's saying that's as high as his chain of command went.
	So that's as high like in a mob organization and we were investigating it.
	As high as our investigation went.
	Obviously, we know LBJ was a puppet to big banks in Texas and a lot more.
	Now, on the subject of China, China has medical firms that advertise they sell organs, they carried out the attacks in Tiananmen Square.
	That's true, China doesn't have as many face scanning cameras, though they're putting in national ID cards, and Chinese governments announce that to people daily.
	And so, the West has a bigger grid
	In place, a police state greater than secret police.
	They just haven't started the mass arrests and executions.
	But, I mean, you can go to Chinese government websites with the public executions and the lining the people up and shooting them in the work camps.
	Now, is China generally as bad as we're told?
	Certainly not.
	I've never been to China.
	I've just interviewed hundreds and hundreds of experts, people who are even pro-China.
	I've had a lot of guests on, like yourself, Mr. Fulford, that, you know, tell us all about it.
	You know, as troglodytes over here that have never been around the world.
	The point is, is that instead of this, I mean, I understand you are the authority, but you're a guest here, and so we just have you here to
	Give attention to your website and what you're doing.
	We're not spreading CIA disinformation.
	I mean, I say Putin's bad.
	I say China's bad.
	Iran does a lot of bad things.
	Most governments are evil and corrupt.
	So we're not saying U.S.
	good, China bad here.
	And so that's my bottom line.
	You say they're not harvesting organs.
	I mean, that's just not true.
	Well, no, they used to be doing it, okay?
	That's a fact.
	And they investigated it once it was reported, and they put an end to it.
	But their original thinking was, well, this guy's gonna be executed anyway, why don't we take his organs?
	But then there was some corruption, and there was an investigation.
	You gotta remember, it's a country of 1.3 billion people, and a lot of funky stuff will happen among that many people.
	The Chinese government says Mao was bad, and evil, and his wife was bad, and they imprisoned her, and most Americans don't know that, for killing 60 million.
	I know China's gone through changes.
	I know your buddies will.
	I think, imagine if you were, okay, during Mao's era, okay?
	You could not choose what you wore.
	You could not choose what you read or information.
	And you could not choose where you lived or what job you did, okay?
	That was how... It was a real police statement.
	And that... I'm just saying, I know history.
	I know you'd say that, and that's true.
	So our modern image of China is the Great Leap Forward, the Cultural Revolution, the Little Red Book.
	They're becoming a more high-tech grid like we are.
	You're right, for a while, in many... I mean, they've had riots there, as you know, when they put surveillance cameras in.
	The farmers with pitchforks are beating armed police.
	So I'm not disagreeing with you.
	I don't know who told you that I was saying that...
	Huh?
	Okay, anyway, look, the fact is that it is not a democracy.
	However, the people who now run the show, okay, they're the direct heirs of Deng Xiaoping and Zhou Enlai, okay?
	Now, Zhou Enlai was a member of the Secret Society, and they have beliefs that are very, very similar to Christianity, and they want to help the weakest and the poorest.
	And the fact is that
	You know, for the vast majority of the Chinese, life has gotten a lot better over the past 20 years.
	And are you saying that it's the same secret society that launched the Boxer Rebellion?
	Well, yes.
	I mean, what you have in China, it's a very interesting situation.
	They've always had an official public worldview, like the mainstream media have in the U.S.
	But they've also had a secret worldview that has been opposed to it.
	And they've had this for thousands of years.
	And so when the official view becomes too out of touch with the people,
	There is a massive peasant revolt that has been throughout history.
	It also happened in the Middle Ages in Europe, peasant revolts.
	That's what castles were built, of course, to protect against the local serfs for the nobility.
	Look, I'm going to let you go, Benjamin.
	I just, you know, I'm done to help you out, so I guess I'm able.
	I will invite you to China.
	I'll arrange for you to have all sorts of access.
	If you ever decide to make a trip to China, OK?
	Yeah, well, listen, I'm going to let Burmese take it back over, folks.
	You guys take care.
	Alright, we'll be back after this.
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	Alright folks, we are back.
	It's the Alex Jones Show.
	I'm Jason Burmas sitting in with Benjamin Fulford.
	And Benjamin, I want to get your take on where China's power is going to be in the world, because I see them on a grander stage now after the Olympics.
	What do you think?
	I mean, Tarpley's one to say that our next big conflict is going to be with China.
	I hope that's not the case.
	I want to get your take on it.
	I was obsessed with the idea as a youth that World War III would be between the West and China.
	I was sure of it.
	That's why I came over here when I was 19.
	That was 28 years ago.
	I've been living in Asia this much time.
	I speak Chinese and Japanese, and I've been visiting China.
	I went all over, you know, and talked to their leaders and leaders in Japan.
	After all that time, I have come to the conclusion that China is not a threat.
	You gotta think of China like a beautiful woman or a handsome man who wants to have children with you and make love to you, and they'll only hurt you if you hurt them first.
	And that is something that, you know, I didn't come to
	You know, immediately.
	It took me decades of studying the place and being there to understand it.
	So, from that perspective, and I think if you talk to anybody who's been out here for 20 years and speaks the language, they'll agree with you.
	They're not a threat.
	They really are not.
	And the regime that was under Mao was a New World Order-type regime controlled by the Illuminati, and the current regime is not.
	That much else I guarantee you.
	Um, I'm not saying they're perfect, you know, there's a lot of problems there, but right now, I'll be honest with you, I'd rather live in China than I would in the U.S.
	Well, things are getting pretty scary in the United States, there's no doubt about it, I mean, we'll see what happens at the DNC, but it looks like it's going to be martial law there.
	Well, here's what's happening, uh, with the, um, with the United States, and this is very, very important, this is one of the reasons I wanted to talk to you people, is that, um, on September 30th, okay, that's about a month from now,
	The United States government is going to go bankrupt, according to many sources of mine.
	It's the end of the fiscal year for the U.S.
	government, and the Bush regime and the neo-Nazi faction that we know as neocons are cornered, okay?
	They are in deep trouble.
	They have been isolated from the rest of the secret government of the West, and they're saying to them, look, you've stolen a bunch of money from England, you've stolen a bunch of money from Europe, you've stolen a bunch of money from the whole world.
	And you have until September 30th to pay back.
	They don't have that money, and they're hoping to use that occasion of bankruptcy to start martial law in the United States.
	And they have 190,000 mercenaries working for Blackwater who earn $1,000 a day, who are going to be the troops who are supposed to impose martial law in the United States.
	Now, the whole world is concerned about this, and I'm very concerned about this.
	And there are a lot of forces who are lining up to try to stop this from happening in the U.S.
	Now, they tried to start World War III over Iran, and that didn't work.
	Now, the talk is that they're going to try to provoke Russia into attacking Poland.
	And they put these outdated Patriot missile defenses in Poland,
	As a provocation, but the real story is they want the Russians to attack so that they can unleash their Star Wars weaponry they have in space.
	And they want a few Russian nukes to get through before they start this whole operation of pulverizing Russia.
	But in other words, they are people who have survived by fomenting wars and selling weapons.
	And they are cornered, and the only way they can think of getting themselves out of the hole they're in is to start World War III.
	So the important thing is not to give them any excuse to start World War III.
	We have to get them to step aside peacefully.
	And to all those Blackwater mercenaries, I would like to say right now, if you really want to kill your own people, go ahead and do so.
	But we'll offer you twice the pay.
	Twice what they're paying you to stop them.
	That's an offer.
	You come to China with the head of Blackwater or whatever, we'll pay your mercenary double.
	Not to impose martial law on behalf of the Bush-Nazi faction.
	Well, it's definitely going to be a privatized military faction that does so if they do declare martial law on this country.
	You know, I'm quite alarmed by the fact that Halliburton moved their main base of operations out of the United States and into Dubai.
	Do you think that these people will start to leave the country before this disaster happens?
	You're saying September 30th?
	September 30th is a date a lot of people have been telling me is a crucial date because of this
	Apparently the BIS, the Bank for International Settlements, which is based in Switzerland, which has always been known as Headquarters Central, the secret government, has split with the Bush faction and the Nazi faction that control, well, they control the UK, Canada,
	The United States and Australia at this point.
	So you feel like the continuity of government program, the shadow government, bunker government in this country has now parted ways with the Bush faction, even though in the 80s, you know, George Herbert Walker Bush is the one that restructured the entire COG program through the National Programs Office into CIA, FEMA, all these other agencies, and it was really the birth
	Well, what I'm saying is that there's a significant group within the United States, inside the intelligence establishment, that are opposed to these people.
	And they're very concerned.
	They've been telling me that they have either arrested or killed 20 Air Force generals in the past month.
	And they're worried about a similar purge at the Pentagon.
	So, in other words, a lot of these people at the super-secret programs, who've been off, you know, exploring the universe and doing whatever they had, not being too concerned, are suddenly very, very worried and opposed to these people.
	And they've been asking for help from the rest of the world.
	What I'm saying is that the secret government of the U.S., the black ops people, are split now between what you could call the white hats and the black hats.
	So, you know, enough of them are really, really worried about September 30th, and they really have had enough of these Nazis, and that's what they are.
	They discovered documents at the end of World War II, written by the Nazis, which said, for us, the war never ended.
	And they've been plotting this, turning the U.S.
	into a fascist Nazi republic ever since.
	And as you know, Bush's grandfather was a major financer of the Nazis, and they brought over all the Nazis.
	After World War II, in an operation called Operation Paperclip, the ones who couldn't be brought to the U.S.
	were sent to South America.
	They've been planning this for a long time.
	Well, you're correct on that.
	There's no doubt that through union banking and others, Prescott Bush funneled Nazi money before and after World War II into this country.
	He was arrested under the Trading with the Enemies Act by J. Edgar Hoover.
	And yeah, you're correct again on Project Paperclip, which is still not all the way declassified.
	I mean, our entire, you know,
	Open NASA program, I guess, is based on Nazi rocket technology.
	I mean, we brought a lot of them over.
	There's no doubt about that.
	There's no doubt that they follow these Nazi-like beliefs.
	A lot of them come out of the school of skull and bones where they literally eat off of Hitler's silverware.
	So, you know, I don't really put anything past these guys.
	I just, you know, obviously September 30th is not that far away.
	We're talking about a really a two-month, not even a two-month, a one-month time frame here.
	Yeah.
	I mean, the good thing about having this data set, it's a clear indicator.
	It's not something vague, right?
	But the same people have been warning me since last summer.
	Last summer there was, you might recall, constant
	We're good to go.
	So, I do believe that there will be a coup d'etat against them, and that's the people who've been contacting me who want to stop these people before they do their crazy stuff after September 30th.
	So do you believe, you don't even think there's going to be an election this year then?
	Well, it all depends.
	I mean, apparently there's
	The United States is in a very deep financial crisis, and the people who caused this crisis and bankrupted the United States do not want an election.
	They want martial law, they want to put Chertoff in as a dictator, and they're looking for an excuse.
	And if these people are allowed to get their way, there will not be an election.
	But if the majority within the intelligence communities and the Pentagon stuff stop them, then
	There will be an election and eventually we'll have these people arrested and they'll be, you know, the brainwashed masses will finally be given access to the truth.
	Well, my worry is even with an election, I don't see Barack Obama saving us, man.
	I see him as another side to the same coin.
	I mean, he, you know, he went down to Bilderberg right when it happened.
	He snuck away from the press corps for this.
	He's got Brzezinski, or had Brzezinski, on his team, you know, of advisors.
	I think he's slick.
	He doesn't really say a lot.
	He seems to tow the party line.
	I feel like he wants expansion in Eurasia.
	And his speech in Berlin was downright scary, where he said that the global citizen would be expected to do more, not less, in the future.
	Well, he's definitely a hired actor reading a script.
	He works for the left wing of the CIA.
	Which is the people under Brzezinski and their crew.
	But I don't think, in the end of the day, it really matters.
	Because the U.S.
	is no longer going to be able to call the shots.
	You see, the reason why the U.S.
	is over or finished with the superpowers is very simple.
	If you look at history, any superpower that relied on debt ended quickly.
	The Spaniards,
	Their empire is based on debt and it collapsed.
	The Swedish empire is based on debt and it collapsed.
	The United States has been asking the rest of the world to finance them for 40 years.
	Now, there was a long time when they believed the U.S.
	was a benevolent force.
	They liked the Americans and they were happy to pay for them to be the world's police.
	But that situation has ended.
	They don't want to keep financing these people because they have become the world's number one source of terrorism.
	I mean, the United States is a rogue state.
	That's how the rest of the world looks at them.
	And they're saying, why should we finance these guys when they're out there creating diseases?
	They're creating terrorist crises all over the world.
	They have 800 military bases.
	I mean, they're a country gone berserk.
	And they rely on us to pay for it.
	And we say, well, no, let's not pay for it anymore.
	Let's ask them to straighten themselves out.
	That's what's been happening.
	From, seen from outside of the United States, the world is very, very different.
	You know, the only problem with that is, and I totally agree with you, that obviously the world no longer wants to finance that, is that we now live in an age which is very different than 50 years ago.
	I mean, our military power has really surpassed that of anything that has come before it, and like you said, we have private mercenary forces, and we also have a lot of technology at our disposal that other countries do not.
	Obviously, Russia is a nuclear power and would give us a run for our money, but
	You know, I don't see much of Europe being able to give us a run for money.
	I'm not even sure that when it all comes down to it, someone like China could give us a run for our money.
	I mean, I'm pretty scared at what these people will do when their back is right up against that wall and there is no more funding, and there is that threat that they might actually have to go to an international tribunal.
	You know, will they just pull out all the stops with their military power?
	Well, here's the, you know, the point of this is that unlike the case of the Nazis, nobody's going to be arrested for following orders.
	And they're not facing a death penalty or anything, they're just facing a loss of power.
	And what these people, you know, their secret flaw of this is that their organization, this sort of Luciferian group that is behind the Neo-Nazis, who call themselves Neocons, is that
	They have a very, very highly centralized system of authority.
	So, at the end of the day, all you have to do is assassinate about five old men.
	Maybe fifty.
	To put an end to it.
	So, nobody's gonna fight their hired mercenaries.
	They're gonna go straight for the eye.
	We're talking Papa Bush, Bill Clinton, we're talking Chertoff, Cheney, Blair, uh...
	Well, I don't know.
	I mean, I always see power corrupting itself, so say you take those guys out.
	This organization spans... I mean, if you just look at, say, the Billerberg Group, that's 144 people.
	Now, those 144 people meet for a weekend.
	Now, a month or two later, they go to Bohemian Grove, at least a large portion of them do, and they disperse their agenda to 3,000 others.
	And, of course, this is compartmentalized.
	And, you know, nobody knows the entire plan, but I see those other 3,000 people as calling for power, and after, say, the top 50 or top 100 are no longer with us, you know, they'll just gravitate towards that power as well.
	I'm not so sure that's the way that we'll be able to defeat this thing.
	Well, you know, that's an interesting point, and I think that you have to understand, and here's where I want to get back to the Chinese system, right, where
	Ideally, and I'm hoping this is how the Chinese system will continue evolving, but it'll evolve in this way.
	It'll be a little bit like, you know, one of these contests they have to find the best singer or whatever.
	Anybody can try for it.
	And they can fight their way up to the top, sort of like a sperm fighters way to get into the egg, right?
	There's a hundred million sperm per ejaculation.
	Only one gets to get into the egg, right?
	But they're each given the same chance to get there.
	If you have a situation where people can put out their ideas, this is how I think we should run the planet, this is how we should run the country, and it's free and open, and it's chosen in that manner, I think that is the future of democracy.
	It'll be a system where, sure, there will be an elite of a few thousand at the top, but it'll be a transparent area where we can see them, and they can agree with them and follow them, or else they can fight them and have a chance to take over and kick them out of place.
	Uh, that is the sort of system I'm hoping will replace the one where they do it in secret and you don't know what they're debating, what they're thinking.
	And that's the problem.
	Well, obviously I want as much transparency as possible and I think that these, you know, meetings like the Builder Bear Group are quite treasonous.
	I mean, they violate the Logan Act and everything else.
	You know, but those are the ones that we know about.
	I mean, we don't know about all the think tanks out there that sit in an NSA room and they're just like top-level generals and they sign off a piece of paper and they put out all these ideas and then those ideas, say they come up with 20 of them, it's one guy that basically says, you know,
	I think that one's good.
	You know, I mean, if you look at the Northwoods proposal, for instance, I mean, they had about 13 or 14 different proposals.
	None of them were actually used for what they wanted.
	You know, Kennedy was then killed less than a year later, but they proposed a lot of things.
	Had they gone through with Northwoods, I highly doubt they would have done everything there.
	So, I mean, I'm with you, Benjamin.
	I want more transparency.
	You know, I don't think that they should be able to hide behind the veil of not only secret societies, but national security and classified documents.
	But how are we going to get there?
	I mean, a lot of people are going to propose that the only way we can get there, Benjamin, and I'll get your take in the last segment after this, is through one world government.
	I mean, that's what I'm sitting here fighting.
	I don't want to see one world government.
	I don't want to see more power to the United Nations or a global body like that.
	I'm sort of a nationalist.
	But we'll come back and get your take.
	BenjaminFulford.com, InfoWars.com.
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	I am Jason Bermas, subbing in for the rest of the week.
	I'll be on the Sunday Show and I'll be through Thursday at the DNC with Alex reporting live.
	We are in our final segment with Benjamin Fulford of BenjaminFulford.com if you want the English version, it's slash index english dot html.
	And really, I just want to get your final... I mean, you've said a lot here today.
	I mean, if what you say happens on September 30th, we could be in for an entire global restructuring, really.
	And it's pretty scary, but why don't you just wrap it up for us?
	What are your predictions for the next six months, Benjamin?
	Well, I don't want to predict it right now, because we're headed for some very turbulent times, and
	It's not exactly clear how it will work out, but my overall understanding is that we're going to come to an end of the secret government of the West ruling the planet.
	Now, you talked about a world government, and I'll be honest with you, I'm actually in favor of a world government.
	However, I don't want a world government controlled in secret by a bunch of inbred European and American families that, you know, manipulate the rest of humanity for their own personal ends.
	But we do have some problems on this planet that can only be solved if we think of us as living on one planet and not as separate.
	Well, what do you think those problems are?
	Well, for example, we've had something like 20-30% of all living species on this planet gone extinct in the past century.
	That's a problem.
	You have these oceans that nobody has authority over, being overfished, and so we're sitting around fishing the oceans.
	We have 50 million people dying a year of starvation.
	So, we need a very minimal structure so that, for example, countries, when they have a problem with each other, they don't go to war, they sue each other.
	There's an international court where you can sue if they think they're messing with you, and you can trust that court.
	And then you need an international organization to take care of the environment.
	And finally, something to step in when people are dying in large numbers in order to stop them from dying.
	Very minimal
	Well, let me just take issue with the environmental thing.
	First of all, I'm not one of those guys that thinks we should pollute the environment all over and do whatever we want.
	There should definitely be regulations, but over the last 20 years, I can say in my personal life, I was fear-mongered as a child into global warming and all these horrors, and by the time I was going to be 30 years old,
	It was going to be 10 to 20 degrees hotter and maybe even worse than that.
	And now they're talking about a carbon footprint and us paying this carbon tax and limiting our water and saying, you know, if you have too much garbage or you have two cars, you're going to be paying taxes on those.
	I see that as a huge mode of control.
	And I see a lot of people in this country, people like Christopher Dodd and others, proposing that as actual legislation.
	And to me, that's totally frightening and totally unnecessary.
	Okay, well, you know, the global warming thing is a great con job by the nuclear industry, okay, to create the image that nuclear technology is green and environmental-friendly.
	And they have hijacked the environmental movement for very sinister ends, and I, you know, look,
	The amount of carbon dioxide that humans have added, so-called, added to the environment since the beginning of industrialization is 100 ppm, which is 1 ten-thousandth of the atmosphere.
	So anybody out there who wants to, they can do this experiment.
	Take a thermometer, go to a bar, light a cigarette.
	Okay, that's CO2 that's coming out of the end of that cigarette.
	And see if the bar gets hotter.
	It won't, okay?
	So, I don't subscribe to that CO2 nonsense, okay?
	And I deeply regret the environmental movement has been hijacked by these nuclear insurgents.
	90% of them are into that, that's the problem.
	Yeah, what I'm talking about is a third world farmer who has a choice, his only choice is to burn down a rainforest or watch his kids starve.
	And I'm saying let's give this guy fertilizer and stuff so he doesn't have to burn down the rainforest and kill unknown species.
	Alright Benjamin, you can't be accused of being boring.
	Thank you for joining us.
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	Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, welcome.
	It is the 22nd day of August 2008, a Friday.
	And what an interview there, boy.
	Fireworks flew.
	You know, I'm just not a one-worlder, I guess.
	I just, you know, I guess the road to hell is paved with good intentions, and I just don't see how global government is going to work without being totally tyrannical and corrupt at some point.
	It may start out nice, who knows?
	But it is not going to end up nice.
	It's going to end up on a crazy technocratic society, in my opinion.
	I mean, I'm sitting here, and let me go through this little article, because it's just totally ridiculous.
	We were just talking about the carbon footprint, and we are totally being conditioned to live with less and pay more.
	Eco-communities living the green life.
	It's out of CNN Technology, it's out of London, England, and they're going to tell you it's not so bad, it's great.
	I'll show you a couple pictures.
	Your houses are right on top of each other, just like any little community.
	Little, uh... Suburban area.
	The term eco-community might conjure up an image of bearded hippies tending an altamont before sharing a mung bean stew.
	But as today's urbanese become more concerned about the reducting their carbon footprints... Remember, they have to reduce that carbon footprint, because we're all evil, because we live, we breathe, we have cars, God forbid.
	Some are finding that modern eco-communities offer them a way to live substantially without foregoing their home comforts.
	See, it's not that bad.
	Join an eco-community!
	So they're gonna mandate how you live, how close your house has to be to another one.
	There'll be no private property, it just totally makes me sick.
	That's just one example, you know.
	And as far as there not being an election, I'm sorry, I really do believe there is going to be an election.
	I believe they're going for broke with Obama.
	Alright, and now they're putting out his short list of candidates.
	He's got his short list now.
	Some of the people I recognized to be his VP were Carbon Footprint guy, Chris Dodd.
	You know, he's proposed it.
	People like Wesley Clark, who Alex ranted about earlier this week.
	Not a good guy.
	Of course, Joe Biden, Bill Richardson, who was in a lot of the Democratic debates there.
	Out of New Mexico, Sam Nunn, Chuck Hagel, we're all big buddies of Chuck Hagel, Chet Edwards, and that Bain gentleman they've been talking about.
	I guess Kathleen Sebelius is another one too, but we'll see.
	Actually, is Kathleen Sebelius?
	Yeah, she's the Kansas governor.
	I'm pretty sure she's the Bilderberg chick.
	You know, he might shock the world.
	And instead of Evan Bay or Joseph Biden or Tim Kaine, go with Kathleen Sebelius.
	That would not shock me.
	I could see that happening.
	Of course Hillary's on the list, I forgot to say.
	Of course Hillary is on the list.
	So for the next hour, folks, I'm going to be taking your calls and playing some clips.
	Maybe talking a little bit of 7, but before I talk a little bit of 7, we're going to play a clip out of Terror Storm in the next segment.
	We're also going to play this clip
	Uh, where the CNN, uh, reporter has to criticize the TSA because he's on a terror watch list, and then he goes through three other gentlemen, who obviously should not be on a terror watch list, and they're always going, Oh, we're so inept!
	Oh, we just can't do anything right, but if you give us your blood, we'll do it!
	Ha, ha, ha!
	Jared Tafel will sit there and be like, Oh, we just can't, we can't really make sure, unless we have some biometrics!
	I mean, it's so evil.
	It's like, well, you already took the one step, you're already going through the TSA, you already have to have an identification, but now, you know, we're gonna train you to be on the, uh, the good time fly list, you know?
	The frequent flyer, the not-a-threat passenger list.
	And, uh, that'll be easy.
	All you gotta do is give us your fingerprints and maybe just a little bit of DNA and a retina scan, no big deal.
	And if you want to just forego the whole process altogether and just go through a little boop and drop off your luggage, you don't have to go through the whole thing and be screened.
	Maybe you'll take this nice little chip we'll put in you.
	So we'll be back with that CNN report and a little bit of Terror Storm on the other side.
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	And folks, you can see a little sneak peek on the internet right now.
	You can see two of the trailers.
	We're going to be releasing more as the week goes on.
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	Today, unlike any other in the long course of American history, a terrorist act of war against this country.
	The enemy struck America on September 11th.
	But who is the enemy?
	Bin Laden.
	This is his M.O.
	We have to look to the Middle East.
	We have to look to Osama Bin Laden.
	Fabled Enemies is the first 9-11 film to take a close look at the terrorist ties to intelligence networks inside the United States.
	investigators believe that there are Israelis again very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S.
	Some U.S.
	I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
	Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists.
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	Alright, folks, we are back.
	It is the Alex Jones Show.
	I'm Jason Bermas.
	You can get at me at MySpace.com slash Jason Bermas, or you can add my film, Fabled Enemies, MySpace.com slash Fabled Enemies.
	Of course, we have a couple trailers out there.
	We'll probably play one or two of those later in the show, but I want to play this clip where a CNN reporter is on the terror watch list.
	It's about four and a half minutes.
	And, uh, not only is he on the terror watch list, but so is a three-year-old child.
	See, they kind of make it funny, but really listen, because they want more and more and more.
	And their excuses always wear it out.
	So let's go to that clip.
	Just crossing the half hour, the next time you find yourself at the airport ticket counter, you might be in for a surprise because you could be on the terror watch list.
	The new ACLU report says one million people are on it.
	One of them, Drew Griffin of CNN's Special Investigations Unit.
	And as he tells us now, while the threat posed by many of those on the list is imaginary, the hassle that they go through is all too real.
	Washington attorney Jim Robinson is a former assistant attorney general.
	He's a former U.S.
	attorney from Michigan.
	He holds a high-level government security clearance, and he's a former law school dean, a husband, a granddad, and American.
	And he gets delayed, if not stopped, every time he gets on a plane.
	Why?
	Because Robinson is also one of the estimated 1 million names now on the terror watch list.
	So it seems, for years now, despite my best efforts to get off.
	This week, Robinson joined the ACLU in Washington to mark what the group calls a ridiculous milestone.
	A million names the government believes match known terrorists.
	And according to the ACLU, 20,000 new names, like Robinson's, are added every month.
	That means there must be
	About 950 to 75,000 people who don't belong on this list who are somehow caught in the mire of doing this.
	What does it mean?
	It means because of his name, he can't check into flights electronically.
	He can't check bags at the curb, can't check in at one of the new speedy airport kiosks.
	Every time he travels, he and a million others need to wait in line.
	And see somebody who then has to make a call.
	Uh, and determined that apparently I am not the James Kenneth Robinson who is the cause of my being on the watch list.
	Don't think it can happen to you.
	It's happening to me.
	So how did I get on this list?
	Well, the TSA is adamant it's not even me, even though it is me getting stopped at the airports.
	The TSA says it's the airlines fault.
	The airlines say they're just following the list provided to them by the TSA.
	And coincidentally, this all began in May, shortly after I began a series of investigative reports critical of
	The TSA.
	11 flights now since May 19th.
	On different airlines, my name pops up, forcing me to go to the counter, show my identification.
	Sometimes the agent has to make a call before I get my ticket.
	It's a hassle.
	What does the TSA say?
	Nothing, at least nothing on camera.
	Over the phone, a public affairs worker told me, again, I'm not on the watch list and don't even think that someone in the TSA or anyone else is trying to get even.
	So if there's any thought or shadow of a thought that TSA somehow put you on a watch list because of your reporting, it is absolutely fabricated.
	Jim Robinson, who served two Democratic presidents, says he's trying not to think politics is involved either.
	I don't feel safer because I have to go through this hassle, I can tell you that.
	The ACLU's technology chief, Barry Steinhardt, says the list is so secretive and yet so shoddily put together, it's hard to tell how it's being used or abused.
	The truth is we really don't know how much is bureaucratic indebtedness and how much is political retaliation.
	Even more frustrating than being on it is trying to get off.
	According to the TSA, you fill out a form online, which I did on May 28th.
	You then copy personal documents, fill out another form, and send them to Homeland Security, which I also did on May 28th, and then apparently you wait.
	Robinson has been waiting now three years.
	On May 2nd, 2005, I filled out all their forms, made a copy of my passport, my driver's license, my voter's registration card, put it in a package, and sent it off to TSA.
	All right, cut the clip.
	Never heard that.
	See, there you go.
	He did everything they asked him.
	See, this is a clip before the Sheratoff one where they followed up and the guy is still on the TSA's watch list.
	So is Drew Griffin.
	On top of that, two other people with the name James Robinson, including a five-year-old boy, are also on that watch list.
	But everything's going to be okay once you give up your blood, your biometric thumbprint, and your eye scan.
	Then they'll be able to know.
	Yeah, right.
	All right, so I promised callers we're going to take them.
	Let's go to the one in Germany.
	Let's go to Maria in Germany.
	That's a far, far, far away.
	Maria, with us.
	Hello?
	How you doing?
	Yeah, fine.
	Yeah, yeah.
	You know, this biometrics, they, um, under Hitler even, I mean, they checked in Tibet.
	They, uh, checked humans for all their facial characters and stuff, and then they were beaten the Aryan race.
	Which is, I think, they're clowns.
	The whole thing, you know?
	Bush and, and, and the lot, and the, um,
	The English Queen.
	I think it mainly comes from the English Queen, which has spread her own following.
	You know, there's people... I used to live in England.
	I also lived in America, you know.
	There's people that are definitely different.
	So you're saying that they're using biometrics?
	I mean, that's the plan.
	Thank you for the call.
	I mean, obviously they want to expand biometrics to everywhere.
	Over in London, I think it's something like 300 plus cameras a day that photograph and tape you downtown.
	It's probably more than that.
	I think that was like a 2006 number.
	And you're seeing that expansion now in the States.
	You know, Alex had the, what was it, the Austin Sheriff in here, Acevedo, and he was talking about, you know,
	We're good to go.
	You're shown naked.
	I mean, it's an x-ray, but it's not an x-ray that sees your bones.
	It's an x-ray that goes around your entire contour of your body, whatever clothes you're wearing, whatever devices are on you at the time.
	Alright, let's jump to J.D.
	What's up, J.D.?
	in Texas.
	Uh, Jason?
	Uh, is Benjamin still with you?
	He dropped after the hour.
	Uh, no.
	What were your thoughts on that interview?
	Well, when I heard him speaking, all I could think about was Senator Trader McCain.
	And why's that?
	Well, I just wanted to tell him if I decided to betray my country, I could live very comfortable in China also.
	Just like McCain did when he was in North Vietnam.
	He lived like a king compared to the other prisoners out there.
	And it's very obvious that Benjamin is not a Christian, and because he has no compassion for the thousands and millions of Christians that were murdered and persecuted in China.
	Well, I don't know.
	I mean, I guess that he has this whole, you know, perspective of China living there for so long is kind of endeared by the beauty of the country.
	But I'm sorry, I just can't get down with their government, although it's been more westernized.
	Again, the police are the military there.
	That is not good.
	Yes, they were.
	I mean, he's contesting whether or not they still are harvesting organs.
	You know, I'm gonna have to look into it before I make any kind of decision.
	But any state that would harvest the organs of prisoners and dissidents
	Uh, you know, to sell on the black market can't be a good one.
	One-child policies?
	I mean, these things sound crazy to me.
	Well, that's the reason I say, uh, evidently Benjamin is not a Christian.
	Or he'd be, he'd be, uh, he'd be bringing these things up and he wouldn't be living in China.
	All right, J.D., I thank you for the call.
	Let's jump to Elliot in Ohio.
	Elliot, are you with us?
	Yeah, Jason, how you doing?
	Good, man.
	What's poppin'?
	Well, I remember actually watching one of Benjamin's little lectures or just, you know, just a video he posted online and maybe on his website, and he was explaining how he's researched and been a part of, or at least been able to participate and get first-hand, like, observations of the secret societies of the East.
	And in China, apparently, he was saying that the Chinese
	And the Eastern secret societies are now vying for power, really, with the West, with the Rockefellers, with the Rothschilds, because the Rothschilds, the Rockefellers, and all the secret societies that boil down from them are now trying to, in a sense, engulf and take over and achieve more power than secret societies in the East.
	So what he said when he's like, uh, we'll pay you like double, you know, for the mercenaries, yeah, it may be good,
	I mean, just, you know, for a quick fix to get us out of, you know, martial law.
	And again, you have to be careful because if they are vying for such a power, if they still want one world government and you have mercenaries now working for China,
	Now you've got Chinese mercenaries in the U.S.
	government, so... Well, that's the point I was trying to make to him, that this is all about globalization anyway, and, you know, this is in essence about a one-world order, and he goes and tells me that he's in favor of that, and I think that's a very dangerous proposition.
	I don't think people understand how evil people can be, especially people at the top.
	Continue.
	Yeah, definitely.
	I mean, like, it's just...
	You know what?
	I will agree with him on this.
	It would be nice to have some help if martial law ever came in to play and civil unrest took form.
	It would be nice to have some assistance from black ops, you know, ex-military-like people versus us just being, you know, a militia.
	We can have some military men in there.
	But then again, right afterwards, you gotta crack down, you gotta make sure you are prepared to fight against them, because I don't trust
	Mercenaries.
	Mercenaries, no.
	No, me neither.
	Elliot, I thank you for the call.
	We'll be back after this.
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	Alright, we are back at the Alex Jones Show.
	I am Jason Burmas, sitting in for Alex for the rest of the week, doing the Sunday show, going through Thursday.
	But remember, folks, he's going to be down at the DNC.
	And not only is he doing the DNC, but he's also doing a couple screenings of Truth Rising with Luke Radowski.
	I mean, it's going to be huge at the DNC.
	And like I said, Alex today earlier debated the head of Recreate 68.
	And hopefully we can get a clip of that.
	If we can't get a clip of it today, we will definitely get a clip of it for the Sunday program.
	And I am just psyched up for the DNC.
	I think there's going to be big fireworks there.
	I mean, they have geared up for a total police state down there.
	We're talking
	Beyond rubber bullets, beyond riot gear, we're talking microwave weapons, we're talking black helicopters, we're talking detention centers, much like the RNC in New York.
	But, uh, you know, John- Jonathan Elenof, as crazy as he is, was able to get a permit at the park right across the street, so hopefully we will not be put into some lame free speech zone.
	In fact, hopefully we will have our voice heard at this conference
	From what I hear, Nader's going to be there, and a ton of other people.
	Just a ton of other people.
	I mean, obviously, Kucinich is going to be there, which is interesting.
	I know that McKinney is going to be down in New York.
	Another event Alex is going to be going to is New York City this year.
	And before I take some more callers, I want to let everybody know that, yes, John McCain and Barack Obama will be in New York City
	Probably close to ground zero.
	I'm not sure where it is yet.
	But they will both be in New York City on 9-11 to grandstand.
	Let me read it.
	U.S.
	presidential candidates Barack Obama and John McCain have agreed to speak at the New York City Forum on Public Service to be held on September 11th.
	The organizer said Thursday.
	You know, Manny Baddio, if you're listening, try to get tickets to this.
	You're a family member.
	You need to be there to ask some serious questions.
	You know McCain's dodged every single one.
	Luke did get him really good in Truth Rising.
	It's also a YouTube clip where he asked him, uh, what do you think about the 9-11 commission report, seeing as they came out and said, yeah, we were set up to fail.
	And, uh, he just gives a little, oh, wow, he got me there.
	All right, let's, let's jump to some more callers.
	You know, we know about the McCain and Obama grandstanding, the big show.
	It kind of makes me sick that they're going to go down to New York, but maybe I'll get lucky and see one of them get them on camera.
	All right, let's go to Eric in Philly.
	Eric, what's on your mind?
	Big fan, buddy.
	Hey, Jason.
	Thanks, man.
	I really think Alex made a good decision.
	Having you fill in for him.
	I went to the InfoWars store, and I saw something very outrageous.
	Let's hear it.
	They will ban these Truth Rising and Loose Change Final Cut for $39.85.
	What's that?
	$20 off?
	That is... Those films on DVD, the quality, man.
	People, if you haven't seen them on DVD, man, I'm telling you.
	Especially if you have like a home theater or something, you really get into the film.
	I mean, you know, those movies are really good, and I'm a huge fan of Truth Rising.
	Well, thanks, man.
	I didn't have a lot to do with it other than getting some footage and just being down here while they were editing it.
	I got to do the cover art or whatever.
	But, I mean, it's just an excellent way to bring other people in.
	I mean, some people aren't going to be as receptive to a road to tyranny, but when they see, hey, wow, this has Rosie O'Donnell and Martin Sheen and George Carlin, and they're all expressing these views I've never heard before,
	And it's just edited together really well, and you have family members in it.
	It's just an awesome movie.
	And, you know, Loose Change Final Cut, I mean, it's the end-all be-all on the physical anomalies and other things on the World Trade Center.
	I mean, we take the official story apart in a way that it had never been done before.
	Even with the second edition, we didn't have as many interviews, we didn't have as many documents, we didn't have, you know, as much from the 9-11 Commission.
	And now Fabled Enemies really goes into the international spiring, folks.
	It really goes into the Israeli operatives, the Saudi Arabian funding, the funding from within this country, the continuity of government program that was in place in drills on the morning of 9-11 and then put into power that day.
	You know, I talked a little about the National Programs Office with Benjamin Fulford, but all that stuff, man.
	Thank you so much for promoting the flick.
	What else on your mind, Eric?
	Alright, also, uh, I go on Skype and I do Skypecasts, you know, talk to people around the world, and there was a Skypecast yesterday that was parading the new NIST report, saying how, how, mystery solved, you know?
	So I went on there and I started debating with the guys, and then they started sending me the link to NIST.
	Oh, you gotta watch the video, which, the proof, I mean, I posted it on your MySpace, but you look at these videos, and I mean, it's like, come on!
	What phone do they think we are?
	It looks so phony.
	You know what I'm talking about.
	This is the 3D model we're now showing where the one column snaps off and then two of the sides on the things begin to cave in internally.
	And they basically say that the bottom middle of the building is what went first.
	But there's no physics applied to the actual models.
	It is simply an animation put together.
	I thank you for the call, Eric.
	We're going to get deep into Building 7 later with Shane Geiger, who went all the way to Maryland to ask a question, only to have the lights turned off on him.
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	The enemy struck America on September 11th.
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	I just want to thank Alex for all the opportunities he's given me over the last few months.
	From hosting the show to helping me put together this film, Fabled Enemies, that you can order right now at InfoWars.com.
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	And on top of that, who knows, folks?
	I mean, let's hope Fulford's completely wrong, and we don't have a total economic collapse, and let's hope all these other doom-and-gloom people are completely wrong, but we just don't know.
	I mean, out in New York, again, they're putting, uh,
	I don't know.
	Three, three.
	All right, we're going to keep taking your calls and really any subject you want.
	Of course, World Trade Center 7 NIST is a hot topic.
	Elinoff will be on at the top of the next hour.
	We're going to have Geiger on about a half hour after that.
	Of course, Bob Chapman will be popping in for his economic forecast for the next
	Alright, let's go to Guy in Florida.
	Guy, are you with us?
	What's on your mind?
	Good, man.
	How are you today?
	Yes, sir.
	I just wanted to first thank you for this change.
	Hey, man.
	I mean, that is one of the greatest videos ever made, you know?
	Well, thank you, brother.
	But also just wanted to mention, Alex was on the show maybe two days ago.
	He was bringing up the IMF, talking about economic depression is definitely imminent.
	Can you speak upon that?
	I mean, it's a definite possibility.
	I mean, when you borrow all of this money and you continue to get into these international conflicts.
	I mean, let's just break down the Georgia situation right there.
	In order for that to happen, we first, like Paul Craig Roberts said, we had to surround Russia.
	Alright, so we've been doing that over the past few years with our NATO allies.
	You know, NATO is supposed to be this peacekeeping force.
	No, they're puppets of this globalist structure.
	So on top of that, we bring in all this radar equipment, then we bring in U.S.
	Special Forces.
	You know, I mean, we're thinning out on how much we're actually going to be able to afford in these military conflicts.
	I mean, you look at Eurasia and we're trying to provoke an attack with Iran.
	On top of that, the housing market here is no good.
	We're building a trans-Texas corridor.
	So yeah, I can see them pulling the plug.
	I think they want to do it
	In a in a elongated period of time, I don't think that they want to have a 1929 style crash.
	I highly doubt that on September 30th, the world is going to change and we're just going to have no money in this country.
	But I think that we will see a gradual slide down this road.
	You know, I think Alex is correct in his analysis that they'll throw us a few bones here and there by, you know, cheapening gas at the pump only to raise it again next summer and for us to fall deeper into decline.
	So, yeah, man, I mean,
	I pray to God that we're not going to just hit that 1929 style depression, but I do think within the next four or five years we're going to be taken down to second world status.
	I don't think third world status because I think that
	Mexico is going to be brought up, and obviously that'll be the merger for us, Mexico and Canada, and possibly a parity on currency.
	I mean, for those that don't know, our dollar is now worth less than the Canadian dollar after years of dominance, and the peso is creeping up.
	So, you know, I hope I answered your question, Guy.
	You got anything else in your mind?
	No, brother.
	Thanks.
	Appreciate it.
	You got it, man.
	Alright, let's jump to Andrew in Oklahoma.
	Andrew, you with us?
	How's it going?
	Hey, Jason.
	Good, man.
	Yeah, I happened to hear your segment there with the CNN reporter Drew Griffin.
	And that's in fact my name, Andrew Griffin.
	I work Radio Free Oklahoma up here in Oklahoma City.
	And I went to the airport here within the past month, and when I got to the counter I was flying to Michigan, and there were some eyebrows raised when my name came up.
	And I was just wondering if that has anything to do with Mr. Griffin's
	You know, investigation of the TSA, and then my name popping up, and then they're having to cross-reference my... It could be, or you got a Patriot Radio show, it could be just that.
	I mean, I don't get flagged at the airport, but then again, similar names do, and then, you know, in the follow-up segment, they talk about how, well, if I want to get around it...
	I don't know.
	The mother actually says, you know, I have found a way to get around it rather quickly.
	And they're like, well, what's that?
	Well, I just tip the guy.
	I just give him a 20 and then they just move on.
	I mean, not that it isn't ludicrous enough for them just to move on because he's a child, but then you have to tip him.
	I mean, it's disgusting.
	No, it is.
	And ironically, one of our fellow patriots here in Oklahoma with Tulsa Truth, Jim Robinson is his name.
	Yeah, I was just wondering if that had any connection to it either, because, you know, we're pretty outspoken in the Patriot community here in the Sooner State, and so these things are disconcerting, to say the least.
	Well, when you have a million people on that list, there's no way that all of them are quote-unquote terrorists, or even Al-Qaeda, or extremists.
	You know, they're average people, and they're probably people that are threats to the system.
	I thank you for the call, man.
	I mean,
	God knows who's on that list.
	I mean, I would be foolish to think if my name wasn't on a list or Alex's name wasn't on a list.
	But again, I don't like to live in fear and paranoia.
	And I think that they put a lot of people on that list that they know are not only not dissidents,
	Yes, I'm right here.
	I want to comment on that you and Alex are doing a great, fantastic job.
	I've been involved in this for about two and a half years, and the one thing that really, really did it for me wasn't either one of the Trade Towers, but it was World Trade Tower number seven.
	Number seven did it for me.
	I accept that the planes were used as diversions for the implosion of both of the other trade towers.
	Now, the one plane that was shot down in Pennsylvania, I kind of think, I haven't really dug in deep yet, I think it was supposed to hit World Trade Numbers.
	All right, let me answer that for you.
	A lot of people speculate that that other plane was on its way to 7.
	Well, in Fabled Enemies, I show you that there was not just, you know, the World Trade Center and Pentagon as targets, but there were up to 11 targets that day.
	They got a list at the Maryland Police Department that morning before any attacks had occurred.
	The World Trade Center, the Pentagon, Sears Tower were on it, the Baltimore World Trade Center, and of course, some of those actually came through.
	We know that because Paris Glendening, the governor, got on Fox News and talked about it.
	On top of that, they had hijackings coming out of Alaska, coming out of Canada, all over the place.
	They thought that there was a bomb on board Delta 1989.
	There was a serious threat against Air Force One that morning, against the White House.
	And in fact, in early reports, they let it go that the quote-unquote hijackers or terrorists or whoever committed this were actually decoding all of the top code words for the White House, the Pentagon, the CIA, the FBI that morning.
	So, I would say this.
	Could World Trade Center 7 have been a target?
	It's a possibility.
	Is it a probability to me?
	I don't think so, because it's kind of low on that skyline.
	It would have been a very tough hit, even with, let's say, a remote aircraft.
	Now, am I saying that's not a possibility?
	No.
	I think they thought they were going to get away with it, because again, this was a huge spook house.
	We're talking the largest CIA base outside of Langley, Virginia.
	The largest Secret Service office
	In the world.
	And I think that they thought that they were just gonna be able to bring it down, that there would be enough damage, enough smoke, that they could blow it up.
	I mean, there is the possibility of that plane hitting the building, but I think it's a low one.
	Go ahead.
	The doctor, Cheyenne Sunder, I watched it yesterday for World Trade Center, number seven report, and his report and final conclusion about the office furniture burning in the buildings, in that building, which caused a thermal reaction on the, I think it was number 78 of the core.
	Thermal expansion, yeah.
	I think that is the lowest low that anybody can go on that conclusion.
	Oh, it's terrible, but I'll say this.
	He's the same guy that went to Popular Mechanics, said they had photographs and video that no one else did, said that a quarter of the building was scooped out.
	I have the quote again in Fabled Enemies, where he said about 25% of the building, or 10 stories, was scooped out of World Trade Center 7.
	Well, we bring you inside World Trade Center 7.
	We show you the south face of World Trade Center 7.
	Didn't happen.
	They had to retract it.
	They even had to say that the damage caused by the collapse of World Trade Centers 1 and 2 had little to no effect on why the building actually went down.
	And if you honestly believe that thermal expansion of the interior columns for one column on the 13th floor to detach
	Caused a symmetrical, vertical collapse in under 7 seconds.
	Well, I have about 5 or 6 bridges that I'd love to sell you after the show.
	Thank you so much for the call, Mike.
	I'm glad that Building 7 woke you up.
	It's what I carry around on my phone when I go to tell people about 9-11.
	It'll be on my phone this year at Ground Zero.
	Remember, I think it's, what is it, 2008nowornever.com?
	You go to that event.
	Fabled Enemies, Truth Rising, both going to be playing on September 10th.
	Alex and I will be speaking.
	And then there are events, obviously, on the 11th and after.
	So, support the first responders.
	Come down to New York and help us out.
	Let's jump to Adam in Ohio.
	Adam, are you with us?
	You there, Adam?
	Yes, sir.
	What's up, Jason?
	Good to talk to you, man.
	Just ordered Fabled Enemies this morning.
	Really appreciate all the work that you do.
	Thank you, man.
	I've got a couple things I wanted to mention to you.
	I thought you might be interested in one on the notion of like militarized police.
	Have you ever heard of a company called Global Asset Tac Group?
	I have not.
	You should check them out sometime.
	Just globalassettacgroup.com.
	It's like a security firm.
	And it says on their website that they draw their expertise from current and former special operations personnel from the US, Israel, and other nations.
	It says that they have a five day law enforcement, you know, American law enforcement training program in Israel.
	So I thought that was pretty interesting for people who doubt
	Oh, that Israel's a part of this?
	I mean, come on, not only that, I mean, first of all, you know, Israel is an intricate part because they are in Eurasia, they are our centerpiece in the Middle East right now.
	I mean, now that we do have Afghanistan and Iraq, obviously, you know, we have a little bit of an expansion there, but things like Blackwater are now opening up quote-unquote CIA-type wings.
	They're not just mercenaries anymore, they're opening their own private intelligence services, and that's what this sounds like to me.
	Yeah, well I just thought it's a good way for people who doubt it, you can just show them to the website and tell them no.
	Our police are being trained by special ops people, even from foreign countries, on foreign soil.
	So, you know... Well, we had Acevedo in here, you know, the Austin Sheriff's Department, the head of the Sheriff's Department, admitting that they have these kind of programs where they bring in Israeli officers and all this other stuff.
	I mean, it's in the mainstream news, but people just don't want to own up to it.
	They don't want to see it as negative.
	They're like, oh, well, they're just sharing information and tactics.
	That's a good thing.
	No, they're getting ready to globalize.
	They're getting ready to join forces against we, the people.
	Totally.
	Well, it's just a concrete example for people who disagree.
	You can just tell them to go and read it from the horse's mouth.
	Alright, go ahead.
	You remember that big cyclone that hit Myanmar a little while ago?
	Did you know that there was a military exercise going on in Thailand right then?
	I don't know.
	What is it?
	Weather Warfare on the show.
	I forget what his name is.
	Ben Livingston is his name.
	And, you know, literally back in the 70s they were creating these storms in Vietnam.
	So the technology's been around for a while.
	HAARP is very advanced.
	There's a lot of stuff that's shrouded in mystery, but I wish that people would crack that mystery.
	I thank you for the call, Adam.
	Let's jump to the next caller.
	Let's go to Mike in Illinois.
	Mike, you with us?
	You there?
	Okay.
	Yes, sir.
	Actually, I have a few things I want to touch base.
	First of all, how dare these guys bring up, after seven years, the building 7.
	I mean, come on.
	I mean, who do they think we are?
	I mean, I know we're dumbed down, but... Well, man, I'm going to play you a clip.
	I'm going to play you a clip right before we have Shane Geiger on, where Wolf Blitzer tells you a mystery solved.
	It's over.
	It's over.
	You know what?
	There was somebody earlier that said, well, we need a militarized civilian, I guess, group.
	Not to get into specifics, but I'm ex-military myself, and I have plenty of people who are just ready for a peaceful revolution, so to speak.
	But if these guys want to push, I'm telling you, we can push a heck of a lot harder.
	I'm just very thankful for you guys.
	I'm thankful for a lot of people who have helped open up my eyes along with, I swear every day I'm probably talking to at least one person a day and waking them up.
	And I work a lot with We Are Change Chicago.
	We do a lot of broadcasting and shows, personal shows with public access and so forth.
	I just want to thank you guys as well, but man, these guys are pushing hard and we need to push back.
	Barely at all this year.
	I remember the 5th anniversary, just like I predicted, was going to get a lot of media coverage.
	So will the 10th anniversary.
	But, they want to put this information out there, kind of under the radar, not really have you think about it.
	You'll see a couple stories about the anniversary of September 11th, maybe the week of, but they're not going to give us our podium.
	They're going to try to keep it out of the public's eye that there is this big dissent in this country that we do know that
	The government's version of what happened on 9-11 is a total bust.
	It's a total lie.
	For instance, this New York Times article that features Richard Gage in it, it tries to distort the issue by saying that, first of all, explosives were planted in the Pentagon.
	That's not a popular theory.
	I don't agree with that theory.
	On top of that, they say that only one in seven Americans thinks that World Trade Center 7 was a controlled demolition.
	I have never heard
	1 in 7!
	No, there's 16% were polled thinking that World Trade Center 1 and 2 were controlled demolition.
	Right.
	We have 84% who don't believe the official version of 9-11.
	We have 36% that basically believe that the government not only let it happen on purpose, but helped it along.
	This 1 in 7!
	It's just a total distraction, man, and it kind of makes me sick.
	Mike, I thank you for the call.
	We're going to be taking callers in the next segment, and then at 1 o'clock, the top of the hour, we're going to have Jonathan Ellenhoff of We Are Change Colorado to tell you about the DNC event coming up.
	I am Jason Burmess, and you can check out all our good stuff over at InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.
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	What's up, Bonnie?
	Well, I got a question about those shielded secure sleeves from Identity Stronghold.
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	What about them?
	Well, I mentioned them to our friends and they went in for purchasing the secure sleeves.
	Oh, Bonnie!
	If everyone starts hearing about the secure sleeve, it'll destroy our plan to steal credit card numbers at the mall with my new RFID reader.
	I know, but these are our friends, Clyde.
	They promised not to tell anyone else.
	I guess you're right.
	That's what friends are for, I suppose.
	Tell them they can get a five-pack of secure sleeves that will fit credit cards and driver's licenses for $19.95.
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	They can buy them online or get a mail-in order form at IDStronghold.com.
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	Okay, well, what if they don't have the Internet?
	They can call 1-800-610-2770.
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	Thanks, Clyde.
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	Man, we just shoot through this show.
	I am Jason Burmess.
	I'm subbing in for Alex Jones.
	I'm going to be with you on the Sunday Show.
	All the way through Thursday, while Alex reports live from the DNC, the Democratic National Convention.
	Man, talk about a busy guy.
	Not only is Alex going there, but he's going to New York for the September 11th events.
	He's going to be speaking
	We're good to go.
	Thomas Kean.
	Thomas Kean travels the country now telling teachers and faculty how they're supposed to teach 9-11 because it is becoming more of a historic event that children are going to have to learn about and God forbid they don't, you know, believe the official story.
	That's funny to me because my movie has been shown in so many high schools and colleges, you know, a lot of my friends are teachers and have shown it to their students.
	You know, I think it's going to be hard for them to put a cap on that.
	I think that a lot of schools are going to ban my films, which is sad because, you know, our films are so far the best attempt of truth that I've seen.
	All right, let's jump to another caller.
	Let's go to Richard in Texas.
	Richard, are you with us?
	Hi, Jason.
	Just a couple of quick comments regarding weather and HAARP and that sort of thing.
	I think it's been very interesting what's been going on with that tropical storm, Faye.
	It actually formed an eye after it made landfall the first time, which is bizarre, and the way it's moved and all that sort of thing.
	And the other, one other comment just quickly is with regard to all these players on the world scene right now, it's just hard to know how deep the rabbit hole goes, but whether it's Russia or Chavez,
	Virtually us, or all the key players with the exception of maybe directly Israel in the UK right now, this oil price thing has funded all of these guys.
	And, you know, the amount of money that's floating around in that and the ultimate impact on geopolitical issues is just hard to even figure out how to get to the bottom of it.
	But now on to WTC7.
	I called Michael Newman this morning at NIST, got him on the line and told him that I used to be in the insurance business, insuring commercial buildings, which I did.
	And, you know, we must be in a whole new world now and the insurance market should go berserk that this could happen and raise rates on these properties.
	As a result of the ability of buildings to collapse in this fashion.
	And I said, you know, we're in a whole new world, aren't we?
	And he says, well, it was just, you know, an unusually constructed building with long spans in these beams and that sort of thing.
	And I said, that makes no logical sense.
	And I said, what about the molten steel at the bottom?
	Oh, first of all, he said, you guys, in speaking to me, and I said, look, I'm just a concerned American.
	I'm not a you guy.
	Uh, don't group me into anything.
	But, uh, in any case, when I mentioned the molten steel thing, he says, look, I don't have time for this, and hung up on me, which was just an interesting experience.
	Yeah, well, yeah, I mean, they don't want to address the real issues.
	Again, their computer model, they didn't apply any physics to that.
	And they can, by the way.
	That's how these computer models work, is that they can apply, you know, physics and physical properties to things you design in 3D.
	This is how it's done.
	This is how engineering works now.
	They often build these computer models to see what's going to happen before it actually does.
	And they did nothing of the sort.
	They built these 3D wireframe models and animated a collapse.
	Richard, I thank you so much for the call.
	We're going to have Jonathan Ellenhoff on the other side.
	Don't worry, we're going to be taking your calls all day long, especially through Ellenhoff and Geiger.
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	All right, folks, we are back at the Alex Jones Show.
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	We're topping off the third hour of four hours of unadulterated, true radio.
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	Not going to be talking about Britney Spears on the MTV Music Awards.
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	But dropping that subject, and again we're going to be taking your calls throughout this interview, but we've got Jonathan Ellenhoff of We Are Change Colorado with us.
	He's just done so much to set up this Democratic National Convention.
	He was on the radio earlier today with Alex on the Peter Boyles program against Recreate 68, a provocateur group in which Jonathan almost single-handedly exposed.
	He's also a good friend of mine and he really knows how to put on an event.
	Jonathan Ellenhoff, how are you, sir?
	Excellent as always my good friend.
	How are you?
	I am excellent.
	Why don't you throw out the website right now so people can go there and check out what you got going on.
	They can always go to wearechangecolorado.org and on the site we set up a DNC page where they can click the link titled DNC and find out everything we have planned for the DNC, our event,
	Our park, our parade, we have set up on Tuesday.
	We have a custom parade.
	We have a Permit 4 with big floats with replicas of the World Trade Center and everything.
	It's going to be one hell of a beautiful time out here for the DMC and we want to get all the Truthers out here, be present, and have a strong presence.
	Excellent, Jonathan.
	Now, for those that don't know, why don't you tell them about the two screenings of Truth Rising.
	Luke Rudowsky and Alex Jones are both going to be there.
	And then, that is the first day of the DNC, I believe, and you're going to have some merch down there, so that if people want to be identified as 9-11 truthers, or a tyranny response team, you're going to be able to provide that with them for the second day, correct?
	Yes, so Monday at 7 p.m.
	at the Oriental Theater here in Denver.
	and 10 p.m.
	You can buy tickets online at theorientalfeater.com or you can go to wearechangecolorado.org.
	Click on the DNC link and the tickets are available there.
	And we are screening Truth Rising.
	Alex is going to speak.
	Luke will speak.
	And yes, we will be selling shirts, DVDs, everything, and just kind of preparing for
	All the events that we'll be following.
	The DNC goes until Thursday and we have stuff lined up every day.
	We need as many Truthers out here as we can.
	If you know anybody out here in Denver, tell them about Truth Rising Screen.
	Get them out here.
	If you know delegates or attendees or anybody you can get to this showing, get them here.
	Because this is the moment they can learn about the Truth Movement.
	We are a legitimate movement.
	We're a large movement and we're growing.
	And they can see it, meet us, and learn about 9-11 too.
	And I mean, you got permits for the park that's only a thousand feet away from the convention center.
	I mean, you worked really, really hard to make this an event where our voices can be heard, where we can shatter the left-right paradigm, because a lot of people think that somehow Obama is going to save us all, he's changed we can vote for, and he, you know, he is the new savior, he is the new anointed one, and I think that we do need a strong truther presence
	We're going to have...
	Exactly.
	Pretty much everything's set up.
	The park is the Gates Crescent Park.
	We're going to be there the entire time, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday.
	We have the permit for it.
	And we're going to be congregating there every day with booths, tables, everything, tents, handing out information, flyering, bannering.
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	Alright folks, we are back.
	It is the Alex Jones Show.
	We are joined by Jonathan Ellenhoff of We Are Change Colorado.
	I mean, this guy has done so much, folks.
	I mean, first he was confronting people like Mitt Romney and throwing it on the web.
	I mean, he's got TruthAlliance.net.
	He's a hell of a writer.
	He even blogs a little bit over at LooseChange911.com.
	Some of our best stories come from there.
	But he's also a ground reporter.
	He went down to the detention camps
	At the DNC.
	He's the one that brought you that story.
	He's the one that brought you the story of the DNC drills.
	Although they said it wasn't for the DNC.
	Black helicopters.
	Gimme a break.
	Them throwing out little American flags.
	Wrapped in orange glow sticks and propaganda.
	I mean, we're living in some interesting times, don't you think, Jonathan?
	Oh, to say the least.
	I also wanted to make an announcement that we also have, if you go to TruthAlliance.net, we are going to be streaming four live video feeds from the DNC.
	This is live and people can get the embeddable player right there at TruthAlliance.net and we will be streaming pretty much every day of the event.
	Now, for a lot of people who do not know this, even though Monday is the beginning of the DNC, Sunday
	There will be the end of the Occupations Rally downtown set up by a couple of the groups.
	They don't have permits for this, and this is the one that's been talked about for the last, oh, four months or so.
	That is controversial.
	They don't have permits for this.
	We don't know what's going to happen.
	They've been threatened with arrest.
	They're planning roadblocks.
	They're planning surrounding cars and stuff.
	They're planning pure provocateur violence.
	They're trying to incite a riot without any semblance of sanity.
	And I'm kind of surprised that they're doing this the last day.
	I think it might be because it's the first day.
	It's Sunday.
	Oh, that doesn't shock me at all.
	Of course they want to do it on Sunday.
	They would like to do it so that they can cut off any kind of dissent after that fact.
	It's unbelievable.
	It is unbelievable.
	And, uh, we just don't understand, uh, well, we're starting to learn now what's really going on.
	Well, let's elaborate on that a little bit.
	Number one, we're also going to be having streams all over InfoWars.com.
	We'll be streaming live, so everybody's going to be able to see this.
	It's going to be on the web everywhere.
	People are going to be taking hard recordings, so whatever goes down, they're not going to get away with.
	But earlier in the day, you, Alex, and Luke actually debated one of the guys from Recreate68, correct?
	Yes, um, yes, and just to be clear, we, you know, the articles are very, um, very clear.
	They were, I wrote three articles about Recreate 68, Re-MD, Unconventional Action, all the different groups, and I, I, I've always defended it with sources.
	It's well backed, you know, we have recordings, we have articles, everything.
	And, uh, you know, these guys are very upset because I was successful at breaking up their group.
	But the thing is, they were setting up actions that were going to get protesters arrested.
	There's no real debate on this.
	Well, there's no debate!
	They had a shield book, Jonathan!
	They wanted people to show up in armor and to have shields and bring red paint and destroy cameras and destroy property and be a nuisance.
	They had no reason for that other than to get people arrested and make us look like vile creatures.
	Well, and they also had, they actually cancelled, because of the article I wrote, they cancelled one of the actions that they were planning, which was called Shake Your Money Maker, which is a protest, as far as I know they cancelled it, at least, where they were going to surround the Denver money mint.
	And attempt to levitate the building, and Glenn and all those guys were going to hand out bags with money symbols on them.
	And we didn't understand what the message was for this.
	This is a coin mint here in Denver, and we talked to the security guard there.
	If you touch or vandalize that fence or congregate around it, they can actually, like, shoot you, is what he said.
	And this is a serious facility.
	This is where money is stamped.
	Coin money is printed.
	And they wanted to surround the Denver Mint and levitate the building.
	Levitate the building.
	In other words, new age nonsense to get people hurt.
	How ignorant are we?
	I mean, let's be adults and let's see what works.
	You know what doesn't work?
	Breaking the law.
	Obviously, civil disobedience is a good thing.
	Okay?
	It's been around for a while.
	This is uncivil disobedience.
	This is felonizing protesters.
	This is insanity to me, Jonathan, and I am just so thankful for people like you that exposed, you know, the masses to this, including myself.
	I mean, I had a friend call me up from Portland
	Who I went to college with one of my really, really good friends and he's like, well, what do I do?
	He's like, well, my buddy is actually going down to the DNC this year with the Recreate 68 folks.
	And I go, whoa, whoa, whoa, Recreate 68.
	And he's like, yeah, what's up?
	And I sent him the website and I sent him the shield book.
	And he's like, oh my God.
	And he's like, this is terrible.
	And I'm like, yeah, it's terrible.
	And like they're provocateurs, just like at the WTO in Seattle.
	We're good to go.
	And, you know, they want a huge leftist presence there.
	I mean, obviously Rage Against the Machine is going to be there.
	The Flo-Bots are going to be there.
	The Coup is going to be there.
	A couple of those bands, obviously, I'm very enamored with and I like a lot.
	But they also stay in that paradigm.
	And I do remember the last time Rage Against the Machine threw a concert.
	I think it was at the LA Convention Center in 2000.
	We worry about it too, you know.
	They set up big detention facilities here in Denver for mass arrests.
	Yeah, and the thing is that some of these other groups like Unconventional Action are open on their website about property destruction.
	I totally agree with it and roadblocks, even though these are arrestable offenses.
	And the most important thing to remember is that, you know, these people are open about
	You know, I'm not making accusations I can't source, but they're open about it.
	It's all right there.
	People can look at it and they can see with their own eyes.
	It's downloadable, Jonathan.
	I mean, they've put it out there in the public eye, but because it's not parroted in the mainstream as something bad, and it's only heard kind of in the backdrop when Rush Limbaugh talks about saying he's dreaming of riots in Denver.
	Well, that's a talking point.
	It is.
	And it's all, um, what's funny about it is, uh, they dug their own hole here, and the, you know, with, um, with all these accusations being thrown around, the important thing to remember here is, you know, people cannot just look up this stuff online and see it right there, and it's all available, it's all sourced, but it all boils down to one thing.
	There's no way, and this is the irony of it, by the way, Jason,
	The Shake Your Money Maker and some of these other events, one of them was to surround the federal courthouse and demand the release of political prisoners.
	Is it just a coincidence that the Denver Mint is catty-corner to the police headquarters that's set up downtown?
	Is it just a coincidence that it's right next to, literally across the street from the Denver courthouse where all the court cases are?
	Where they can process you in less than 20 feet.
	Exactly.
	I mean, we're talking about
	And that was one of the first things I noticed, is these actions were designed to not just rile up the protesters and get them all pissed off, but to put them at arm's length away from cops, waiting right there.
	I mean, we're talking about direct confrontation here.
	And, you know, I saw this six months ago, and I was pretty much the first person who blew the whistle on all of this.
	And I immediately put two and two together and I saw two trains headed toward each other at, you know, 100 miles an hour.
	And it's pretty simple if anyone sees it.
	Now I've been accused, like I was this morning, of
	Lying, and this, that, and the other, and they actually completely misquoted me about a bunch of stuff.
	The reality of fact is that I've stuck with my story the entire time.
	Everything's been said online.
	And, uh, you know, if I wasn't telling the truth, I couldn't be held accountable for that.
	But the reason why they don't go after me is because it's fact.
	And they're open about it.
	I was actually praised by the local paper for the work that I did.
	And the most important thing to remember is that not only did I get respected for what I did,
	Recreate 68 broke up.
	A whole bunch of their members created a new group called Alliance for Real Democracy.
	They broke away from Recreate 68 because they agreed with my article.
	They came out and said, yes, the name is Recreate 68.
	It sounds like they're going to recreate the violence.
	It sends the message of recreating the violence that happened in 68.
	It's a horrible thing and that they needed to distance themselves from the groups.
	They created this new group, Alliance for Real Democracy,
	They did that because I was right and they agreed with me.
	And what did they do?
	They banned We Are Change from being a part of Alliance for Real Democracy because we hurt the progressive relationship that they had.
	Well, that's tough.
	It's too bad that when you want to tell the truth and you don't want to be put into this, again, false left-right paradigm, this false conservative liberal paradigm, this
	False, you know, you have to be for Barack Obama or you're against change paradigm.
	They don't want you to take part in it, Jonathan.
	Jonathan, the website is wearechangecolorado.org, correct?
	And all the information is there, correct?
	Yes.
	Everything's on we'rechangecolorado.org for the DNC.
	They can still get all my articles on truthalliance.net.
	And everything's been available since all this went down at the very beginning.
	Alright, let's take a couple callers.
	We got a couple ones holding.
	Let's go to Jameson in Florida.
	Jameson, are you with us?
	Hello?
	Hey man, what's on your mind?
	Oh yeah, I'm down in Florida and Faye just hit.
	This, the continuity of government thing, it's really like, it's really like a preview, I think, of what we're going to see in the future.
	Well, absolutely.
	I mean, continuity of government's been around for a while, and even in your state of Florida, on September 7th, you know, martial law was declared in 2001 before the attacks, and it went on throughout the attacks.
	And, you know, isn't it a coincidence that Jeb Bush is the governor of Florida, and his daddy is the one that revamped the entire COG program?
	Yeah, but like,
	It's like what they do here with the flooding, like they let the drainage systems deteriorate and then they put up roadblocks and they pretty much have a control grid on the whole city.
	Well, obviously they're trying to control, you know, I mean, just look at Katrina.
	Whether you think, you know, they bombed the levees or anything like that, the police reaction was unbelievable.
	They literally warded them off at the bridges and would not let them cross, would not let food or water get to them.
	Why is that?
	It's because it's all about control.
	Jameson, thank you so much for the call.
	Jonathan, thank you for popping in.
	I know you got another interview to do.
	Right after this.
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	For the third time today, it's reminiscent of those pictures we've all seen too much on television before, when a building was deliberately destroyed by well-placed dynamite to knock it down.
	We have the owner of the World Trade Center complex admitting on tape that he ordered the building demolished on the afternoon of 9-11.
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	I will say that I spoke to a cop on 9-11 who said that it was going to come down.
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	Now, archived CNN footage has surfaced showing video footage of a New York City police officer telling cameramen and civilians to get back from Building 7 because the building was going to blow up.
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	And then, in late February of 2007,
	9-11 researchers reviewing archives of live news coverage from September 11 discovered to their shock that BBC World had reported that Building 7, also known as the Solomon Brothers Building, had completely collapsed over 20 minutes before its actual implosion.
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	Now, more on the latest building collapse in New York.
	You might have heard a few moments ago I was talking about the Salomon Brothers building collapsing, and indeed it has.
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	We're about to bring on InfoWars freelance reporter Shane Geiger, a guy with a lot of motivation, came down to the office last week in Texas.
	We are in Austin, Texas, folks.
	Said, hey, I'd really like to go cover this.
	Can you guys help me out with some press passes?
	And Aaron talked to him for a little while and he said, you know, of course, you can go on behalf of us.
	We'll see what we can do.
	He then contacted NIST.
	NIST then contacted us to make sure that he was with us.
	The guy from NIST was actually pretty sympathetic and had heard of InfoWars.
	I was kind of shocked.
	and uh... he went down there i mean it is no small trip uh... from texas to maryland and actually was at the conference now we're gonna play cnn clip where they kind of cut him short but they do acknowledge his presence and now they also acknowledge loose change but according to wolf blitzer it's all shame so we're gonna go to that clip and come back to shane geiger this is the alex jones show i'm wolf blitzer you're in the situation
	The Twin Towers of the World Trade Center weren't the only buildings that crumbled on September 11, 2001.
	A neighboring building, the World Trade Center Building No.
	7, also came down, but no one was sure why.
	Until now.
	Let's go to Deborah Farrick.
	She's working the story for us.
	Deb, what are the experts now saying?
	Well, Walt, there's a new report and the findings come after three years of studying the collapse of Building 7 just across from the North Tower.
	This was done using complex computer models, detailed analysis and eyewitness accounts.
	So, why doesn't everyone buy it?
	It has been a mystery since 9-11.
	Why did World Trade Center Building 7 collapse nearly seven hours after the Twin Towers fell?
	Was it diesel fuel in the building?
	Or planted explosives?
	A controlled demolition of government offices as conspiracy theorists allege in films like Loose Change.
	A team of scientists and engineers authorized by Congress says there's only one answer and it's conclusive.
	The collapse of World Trade Center 7 was primarily due to fires.
	This is the first time that we're aware of that a building over 15 stories tall has collapsed primarily due to fire.
	Shyam Sunder, the study's lead investigator, says fires ignited by falling debris from the towers burned so hot they created a phenomenon in which steel and concrete floors failed, causing floors to buckle and a key column to cave.
	For the first time we have shown that fire can induce a progressive collapse.
	Fires burned out of control on six of ten floors in Building 7, where New York City's multi-million dollar emergency command center had recently been built.
	And because the city's water main was cut when the towers fell, sprinkler systems in the building did not work.
	Still, conspiracy theorists and others were not swayed by the new findings.
	I hear quite a number of bare assertions here today.
	Investigators say they did consider certain so-called conspiracy theories, but none held up.
	Alternative theories.
	Are really none of them have been found to be credible.
	Fire expert Glenn Corbett analyzed the Trade Center collapse and says the new report could be used to make high rises safer.
	I'm hoping that the next steps will be to actually make change.
	All right, let's cut it.
	You know, in the end is a complete whitewash where they say, oh, we're going to try to make them safer.
	And the person who was talking about those bear assertions joins us.
	Thanks for coming on, Shane.
	Yeah, my pleasure.
	Thanks for having me.
	Well, absolutely.
	Why don't you just take us through it.
	First of all, the trip to Maryland.
	You drove, I assume?
	No, I booked a flight last minute.
	One of the techniques that NIST was employing to keep people from, you know, coming and showing up and criticizing them, apparently, was to, you know,
	Published the actual date and time of the meeting at the last minute.
	Yeah, it only came out like a day and a half before the actual thing, right?
	Day and a half, two and a half days, yeah.
	I think it was maybe Monday night or Tuesday night when I got the email about this.
	I kind of molded over and decided, yeah, I want to go, but thanks to Brave New Books, the really awesome bookstore in
	Austin, where I've met a number of nice people and discussed 9-11.
	Yeah, Matt Conner is a really good guy over there.
	Yeah, Matt Conner, Harlan, John, all great guys.
	Absolutely, and I gotta ask you, now you get in there, okay?
	Because we only got you until 2 o'clock.
	Now, you were talking about the bear assertions.
	Now, they said that the fires were hundreds of degrees below what they first suspected could do anything like this.
	That's in there like a little official spiel.
	Then they also say that they didn't even have any steel from the World Trade Center 7 to test, correct?
	Right, yeah, in NCSTAR 1-3, you can just Google this, they state that they don't have any of the World Trade Center 7 building steel.
	So, you know, they had some charts, some charts at the front of the room yesterday, and
	I was just asking myself, how in the heck is it that they drew these charts, you know, these are not actual, uh, you know, these are not actually based on physical evidence.
	These are just imagined, uh, Boeing trusses.
	So, you know, there's, there's so many bare assertions that don't have evidence to actually back them up.
	You know, when you do science, the idea is you do experiments to, you know, uh,
	Test your hypothesis.
	Exactly, exactly.
	Yeah, you can make a simulation, do anything.
	You know, uh, you can make a donkey talk, like, you know, this is a- Like Shrek.
	Yeah, it could be like Shrek.
	Exactly, exactly.
	It's ridiculous to think that this is a proof.
	However, there are some bits of evidence that are being found in the World Trade Center dust that you can actually verify.
	You can go to the USGS website and see pictures of the iron-rich spheres, which are evidence of temperatures of 2,800 degrees Fahrenheit, you know, in excess of that.
	In fact, these are the temperatures necessary to liquefy iron.
	And the National Institute of Standards and Technology report on the Twin Towers, and apparently also the one on Building 7,
	...state merely that the temperatures got up to roughly 1100 C or 2012 degrees Fahrenheit.
	Temperatures that are merely hot enough to weaken steel.
	But the problem is, you know, we've got some liquid iron, you know, this is the major component of steel.
	We've got this at the scene of the crime.
	And on video, pouring out of the building, by the way, not just on the scene of the crime, not just multiple.
	And they made the bare assertion concerning that the video, the Peter Jennings broadcast showed it on nationwide television.
	You've got this orange metal flowing out of the South Tower minutes before it collapses.
	And they state in their FAQ
	Uh, that, you know, this is probably, um, molten aluminum mixed with organics or something else.
	And it was absolutely disproven by Stephen Jones.
	There is no way that molten aluminum would have, would have glowed that way, would have reached that far, far down without solidifying or given that kind of texture.
	It was completely disproven.
	And then the, uh, the debunkers had to jump on that and say, well, if it isn't molten aluminum, it's gotta be batteries from the building.
	I mean, these guys will say anything.
	Right.
	Yeah, or throw the fly ash in there or the other things for which they have no substantiating experiment.
	And this is so ridiculous.
	You see this over and over again.
	I like to tell people, you know, this is the way you can tell whether or not, you know, 9-11 was an inside job.
	You see, you look with the scientific method, you know, at who's doing science and you can see
	Yeah, I think so.
	Stephen Jones, Kevin Ryan, James Gorley.
	And Kevin Ryan, by the way, we're going to have on on Monday and Richard Gage is going to be joining us at 2.30.
	I'm trying to get a hold of Stephen Jones.
	James Gorley, actually, I'm a good friend of and I actually did a screening out in Dallas a few months ago with him.
	He's a good buddy of mine.
	You know, a very smart person, man.
	I mean, they're trying to put this together in a legal format which they can no longer ignore, and they are having to back off certain things.
	Certain things they'll just straight up lie about, such as there was no loss of life in Building 7, but S.I.M.
	Sunder went to Popular Mechanics years ago and said they had evidence that, uh,
	25% of the building, or 10 complete stories, had been scooped out of World Trade Center 7, where in this latest report, that is nowhere in the diagram, there is nothing scooped out, and they have had to admit that the damage caused by World Trade Center 1 and 2 and their collapse had little to nothing to do with World Trade Center 7's collapse.
	I'm kind of thinking, Jason, that those photos, the videos and whatnot, that NIST is holding hostage for $19,000, might shed some light on all of this.
	But of course, you know, we're not so likely to see that unless we cough up at least $19,000, you know, the upper limit is whatever they decide it is.
	Yeah, that's a lot of money to pony up to when you're an individual guy like me that's lucky to make that in a year, you know, and has to struggle and work 40 to 60 hours a week just to do that.
	But they do that on purpose because
	They want the slave class to just shut up and accept what they say.
	I mean, literally, Wolf Blitzer is on there saying, MYSTERY SOLVED!
	Well, I'll give Deborah Farrick a little bit of, uh...
	You know, I'll give her a little bit of an op.
	She's the one that came out to our house and interviewed us a couple years back.
	She was rather sympathetic.
	She's one of the few reporters that even put in the alternate hypothesis, that even dared put you on the TV screen, that dared to mention loose change, and she was the one that actually did contact us to tell us that they were doing this news story.
	So, you know, a little bit of a shout-out to Debra Farrick.
	I hope you come around even further.
	I understand you work for CNN and it's
	Highly corporatized, and there's only so much that you can say, but please keep trying to bring the people some semblance of the truth.
	All right, we've only got like 15 minutes, so I want you to describe what happened when you actually asked a question.
	I remember you mentioning yesterday that they shut the lights off on you.
	Yeah, this, uh, you know, I, I, I know what's going on here.
	And so when I booked this flight, I knew there was a chance that I wouldn't get to speak, you know, that
	They'd be reading the question.
	They asked me to actually send the question in the day before so they could preview it, you know, just to make sure that I don't ask anything they don't want me to ask.
	And so I was sitting there in this presentation and I heard time and time again the most outrageous lie about finding no explosives, you know, which implies that they looked for explosives.
	And so I just pulled up in my notes the exchange of information between
	Dr. Jones, Kevin Ryan, James Greeley, and others, and with NIST concerning the experiments that they've supposedly done under the Data Equality Act, you are allowed to submit a request for correction to the federal agency if you have some reason to suspect that information is wrong, you know, some information that
	Might affect, for instance, how you build buildings or something like that.
	And, uh, so anyway, the Data Quality Assurance Act, uh, was the means by which, uh, Jones, Ryan, and others, uh, got this admission from NIST that they didn't do any experiments.
	Of course, this was, you know, this didn't hit the mainstream press at the time to, you know, an outrageous thing to make statements that, you know, you didn't find explosives when you didn't look for explosives.
	And, uh, I was sitting in the room yesterday with, uh, you know, people from the mainstream media, you know, all the big groups, and, uh, you know, these people heard what I said, and, and they did gather around after, uh, the meeting and talk to me about this a little bit, but, uh, I saw their reports today, and they didn't follow up on this, so I'm, you know, I'm gonna contact them.
	I'm gonna see if I can get them to, uh, see this correctly, but, you know, I, I realize these people, what, were there as, you know, career reporters.
	Oh, absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	Something on the line, yeah.
	Oh, there was no way they were gonna try to crack the case.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Well, let me ask you, when did they shut the lights off?
	That's what I gotta know.
	Like, were you in the middle of the question?
	Alright, go with that, go with that.
	So, just after the, you know, the blurb that you heard on CNN, you know, where I said there were a lot of bear assertions, I mentioned the beams, you know, the graphics that they had on these charts at the beginning, at the front of the room, and
	And I started into the information I had on the Data Quality Act request, you know, and missed submission.
	And I believe it was a little... There's a bit of a pause in my presentation, and somewhere along the lines there, the light went off just a little bit, my pause.
	And then, what, in the middle of the Data Quality Act request portion of my presentation,
	I saw, I quickly looked forward in the room, I saw two people off to the side, uh, waving their hands.
	Their hands, their arms were fully extended.
	Oh, God forbid you try to see the truth!
	No!
	No!
	No!
	No!
	Ah!
	The cover-up!
	Hey, hey, Shane, I want you to finish this story about a spot by the office and I'm gonna leave.
	This is Alex Jones popping in.
	I was just listening in the car when I pulled to the office.
	Uh, to you and, uh, Jason talking about how Wolf Blitzer's saying, this is it, case closed.
	Same thing with, they announced for a whole day, case closed, we're gonna show the plane at the Pentagon, case closed, and they show some white blur.
	It's, it's like they want to keep it going, or something.
	And, and listen, we need to get Paul Watson
	I don't know.
	Backing this off and off and off, but listen, I'm gonna get out of here, but Jason, just make sure somebody does a story on this, because I'm seeing all the other rundown stories are really not going over that.
	They literally said a quarter of the building was gone, and now that's retracted, and he said that they tested for explosives, but if you watch the official NIST three-minute video, he simply says, well, the explosions that would have had to occur for a controlled demolition would have set off major decibel levels.
	No, that is a big thing.
	And those decibel levels were in none of the actual videos or eyewitness accounts.
	Boom!
	But they are!
	I know!
	Boom!
	Boom!
	And I'm sure... Listen, bottom line...
	You can hear it!
	Si Hersh now comes out and says Cheney was planning to blow up her own ships, confirmed.
	You know, Gulf of Tonkin, all this stuff's coming out.
	It's their criminal murderers, and they're not gonna stop.
	I want to tell all the debunkers something, because I woke up this morning at about 6 a.m.
	thinking about this.
	I know I've said this before, but it really came home.
	It really hit me.
	I almost came in today just to talk about this.
	Yes, I did.
	It's that, my God, we've got former Italian Presidents, and German Defense Ministers, and members of the Parliament in England, and Japan, and Willie Nelson, and Governors, and all these people, and they all had the courage to come out and say it was an inside job, and we've defeated the bastards.
	The majority of people, I mean, it's not common knowledge on the street.
	I want all the government debunkers and all you scum of the world to know, you really have failed, bastards.
	And now people understand false flag terror.
	The top Russian general, number two, general comes out and says NATO's planting false flags in Georgia, dressed up like us.
	I mean, the cat's out of the bag.
	Your little favorite toy of murdering us and posing as our saviors is getting broken down, is getting defeated.
	And so I am just so excited.
	And listen, Jay, I'm gonna give you the rest of the time.
	Let's just finish up with them waving a no, no!
	No, I love how you put things into context historically.
	That's so important for people to, you know, grok it.
	Think how far we've come.
	Yeah, grok it.
	Think how far we have come.
	Think of what we've done.
	People say, 9-11 truth, you know, it's hit the end of the line.
	No, that's government propaganda to make you think.
	And people, oh, I guess the war's over.
	I'll go home.
	It's bigger than it's ever been.
	Meanwhile, they try to insert ridiculous theories like no planes, bombs everywhere.
	None of it's gonna work.
	Look, they're onto your crap, murderers.
	It's over.
	I'm leaving.
	Denver, you're doing a great job, Jason.
	I'm going to get ready for Denver.
	And you are too, Mr. Geiger.
	All right, we'll just come back and finish up your story.
	No, don't say it!
	Cut the lights off!
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	I am Jason Bermas subbing in for Alex.
	Alex just popped in.
	We are in the final segment with InfoWars freelance reporter Shane Geiger.
	And Shane, I really hope that you write an editorial not only about this subject, but about your experience.
	I mean,
	Literally trying to get no independent media there by announcing it a couple days over.
	It doesn't stop you.
	You still get on a plane.
	They still want you to submit your question.
	Doesn't stop you.
	You submit your question.
	You get in there.
	You get to ask your question.
	They turn off the lights.
	It still doesn't stop you from getting some mainstream coverage.
	So I think that, you know, you have a very unique perspective.
	We want to thank you from, you know, all of our hearts over here at InfoWars.com for doing what you're doing.
	In the next five minutes, why don't you just give me a wrap-up of the whole experience?
	Well, gosh, I'm flattered.
	Thanks so much.
	And, you know, I do have more to say on this.
	I wish I had your video editing skills.
	I really have some things to say.
	I'm just kind of bursting.
	I talk about this with people all the time.
	I think it's really important for people to realize that 9-11 is really not the past.
	9-11 is what created what we have today.
	You know, with the passing of the Patriot Act, the Military Commissions Act,
	All these sorts of things.
	So I think it's, you know, I really love what Alex does with, you know, gosh I love Terror Storm.
	Great film.
	And, you know, I think it's important for people to see the historical context.
	I think it's
	You know, it's, I mean, who of us really wants war with Iran and Russia?
	You know, especially not nuclear war.
	Not anybody who has any sanity left in their brain.
	Exactly, right.
	Yeah, I mean, the people that want this, they're like, you know, these rats that have some virus, something in their brain, you know, and they want to be...
	Well, they're so far removed from the quote-unquote slave class because they truly do believe that they are better than us, that we are chattel to be willed to their desire, and they're the ones that are trying to, you know, kick off World War III.
	They're the ones that have used 9-11 as this pretext to end America.
	And you're right, it is an ancient history.
	Our entire foreign and domestic policy, right now in this country, is based on the events of 9-11 and the way that the government and the mainstream media told us it happened.
	It is the Patriot Acts.
	It is the Military Commission Act.
	It's the fact that we can't even sue the government or the private organizations that wiretap us illegally.
	I mean, these things are all real.
	They have progressively gotten worse in this country.
	And with privatized mercenaries, like I talked about in the first segment, we are in big, big trouble.
	Oh, yeah, Blackwater, yeah.
	I really want people to realize that it's important right now to look at 9-11 Truth.
	The physical evidence is my favorite starting point, because there you can know there's something absolutely wrong here.
	And I, you know, at the very end of the conference yesterday, I think if you can hear what I said in the
	In the webcast, I haven't actually had the time to watch it myself, but if you can hear it, you can see that I was not attacking anybody.
	I mean, I was saying he was making various assertions because he was, and he had every opportunity to rebut me, and instead he didn't say anything.
	So, at the very end of this, I was surrounded by reporters talking to me, and I talked to them for 10 or 15 minutes, something like that, and then I saw Dr. Sunder was still standing in the corner talking to some people.
	So I got my video camera, and I walked over to this guy, and I started videoing him a bit, and I kind of went there just to see what these creeps really look like up front, you know, in person.
	I wanted to see what it looked like.
	Feel the evil.
	Yeah, I wanted to see him, and this is kind of a cool thing, you know, I mean, this is, you know, this is a work of art, you know, from the perspective of the evil people that did this kind of stuff, and that are taking part in the cover-up.
	So I just thought this was going to be very interesting.
	It's a Machiavellian masterpiece for those guys.
	Yeah, Machiavellian, exactly, beautiful.
	So I went over there and got some videos of this guy, and, you know, eventually,
	Listen, we need you to post that video, send it to Aaron at InfoWars.com.
	I want to thank you again, Shane.
	You know, we need more people like this guy that are willing to get a press pass, ask an intelligent question, be a part of the press.
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	And you get to see Alex's crazy eye in the video camera right now.
	Joining us for the next half hour is TheInternationalForecaster.com's own Bob Chapman.
	Oh Alex, I love it when he stops by.
	And really I want to get his take on global events from Georgia to Russia to even this new NIST report on WTC7.
	Thanks for joining us, Bob.
	Well thank you for having me again.
	Well, it's always a pleasure, and you've become quite a regular on the show because you have such great analysis.
	I really want to get your take on the last week's activities with Georgia and Russia.
	I mean, the mainstream media is still saying Russia attacked Georgia, they're the aggressors, the bear is back.
	Meanwhile, there's been a slight de-escalation in the fighting over there.
	Where do you think this is all headed, Bob?
	Well, first of all, Georgia, or I should say the United States and Israel were the attackers.
	And when Russian forces were brought in, they ran.
	I don't know about the Americans and the Israelis, but I know the Georgians ran.
	And so they invaded.
	Yeah, they invaded South Ossetia.
	There's no doubt about it.
	A little 12-year-old American girl went on Fox and said, hey, we were in South Ossetia, Georgia attacked us.
	It's pretty much admitted in a lot of these mainstream articles, but it's during the bottom or the middle of the article, and then they just blatantly say that Russia is the aggressor, no matter what.
	Yeah, you're right.
	That's unfortunate, but in a way it's fortunate in as much as the public knows different, and all they're doing is losing more credibility.
	The question is where we're going.
	Well, first of all, this is going to put a dent in NATO.
	I don't think that George is going to be an immediate candidate for NATO.
	I think NATO has lost a lot of credibility by standing by and allowing this to happen.
	The Russians were peacekeepers and it was blatant invasion what went on.
	I mean, I can't think of what they were thinking of in Washington, Tel Aviv, never mind in Georgia.
	And so I think other nations in the area are going to be more reluctant to deal with the United States
	NATO, Israel, Georgia, etc.
	And so Russia is going to make big inroads.
	Last Saturday, I can't think of the name of the country, but Turkmenistan signed a deal with Russia to send their natural gas via Russian pipelines.
	That was the gas that
	We'll call it the American Consortium wanted to send through Georgia South to Turkey and then on to Haifa.
	And so the second pipeline for gas is kind of out of the question now.
	Now I understand that Kyrgyzstan wants to divert their oil from the way that they're shipping it through Russian pipelines as well.
	And so that's oil that will not be coming down through the Caspian Basin.
	That could have been eligible to the other pipeline.
	Well, is that going to affect the price here in America, Bob?
	You do believe it's going to affect the price here.
	Sure.
	Well, I want to get your take on that and a lot more on the other side.
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	Alright, ladies and gentlemen, we are back at the Alex Jones Show.
	I am Jason Bermas, sitting in just one last week.
	I'll be here until next Thursday, and then it's back to New York for me.
	We're going to be covering the DNC with live feeds over at Infowars.com of Alex Jones and others on the Infowars team.
	Really looking forward to it.
	But right now we're talking to Bob Chapman of TheInternationalForecaster.com, and we were talking about
	All these pipelines and how America seems to be losing control of these pipelines and you think that this is going to affect the price of gas in this country?
	No, I really don't.
	There's multiple sources.
	It'll affect the ability of oil companies from the Netherlands, England, France, and the United States from getting more supply.
	And that could be an issue with all the problems that are going on in Nigeria and the diminishing exports of oil from Mexico.
	But I don't think at this point all of that is a factor in the big picture of oil.
	And so I discount that.
	Oil, it's the fundamentals more than anything else.
	Yes, there has been excessive speculation, and that's been taken care of by the market itself.
	And part of that was the inability of speculators to continue to be able to borrow as much money as they'd like to, and that's called a deleveraging process.
	And it was natural that
	A correction should have taken place.
	Unfortunately, they took gold and silver down with them, although they have rallied back somewhat, as have the commodities.
	But I think both groups are looking for a bottom in here.
	And I had previously said I expected somewhere between 1 and 120 on oil as a support level, and I think that's what we're getting.
	To go on with the situation with Russia and others, I think Russia was underestimated.
	I don't think that Zbigniew Brzezinski thought that Russia would move on Georgia, which they did.
	And they are showing no fear, if you may.
	And I think the relationship with NATO is over.
	I think the Israelis are going to suffer from this in as much as the Russians were very cooperative in helping them try to discern what was going on in a nuclear basis with
	Uh, Iran, and that'll all be shut down.
	Uh, so Israel isn't going to have that opportunity in the future because of their actions and the aggression that occurred, uh, by Georgia.
	They had been training and supplying weapons along with the United States for the last six years.
	And, um, their efforts didn't turn out too well because, uh, they had as good as equipment in Georgia, if not better than what the Russians had.
	Um, I think that, uh, foreign policy is going to change tremendously.
	I think Europe has seen that, uh, the U.S.
	has gone off with Israel, and what I would call another cockamamie idea, and they've made fools out of themselves again.
	And Europe's saying, hey, you know, these guys supply one-third of our gas to Western Europe,
	I don't think we ought to go along with these insane ideas anymore.
	And so I think America has lost great credence with the Western nations in Europe.
	And Europe's concerned, and they should be, not only because of the gas situation, but Russia is the neighbor.
	And if things get nasty, they're going to get hit first.
	I think this could lead to the breakup of NATO as well.
	And maybe something would replace it, but I think NATO is pretty much done for.
	So you think that NATO is going to break up?
	I don't think most people have seen that yet.
	So you think NATO's going to break up?
	Because it's surrounding Russia on the U.S.'
	Why?
	's behalf right now, and now we have this conflict?
	I mean, do you see a restructuring of that Russian region altogether?
	South Ossetia, Georgia?
	Well, that could be, that could happen.
	It all depends on how hard the U.S.
	pushes.
	Like, if in the Ukraine, at the Basta Port, if they decide, Ukraine decides to put some heat
	On Russian shipping, which they have a 17-year lease left, then Russia's just going to take them over.
	They're not going to fool around with them.
	And any other country in the area that causes problems, they're going to move against them.
	Well, I mean, I was talking about... The U.S., with the help of these NGOs, which is these fronts by George Soros, those are non-governmental organizations, they've really corrupted the political system in many of those former Soviet countries.
	And they, the Soros and the CIA, etc., MI6, have been able to essentially appoint their own people to run those governments.
	And that's got to change because
	I don't think that the people in Ukraine are going to want to tangle with the Russians, nor in any other Baltic state.
	And so I think the Americans have lost credibility.
	I think NATO will break up.
	I think the Americans are going to be asked to leave Germany.
	And so there's a lot of things going to happen through the stupidity of these people.
	Well, so do you think that this is really just another indication of the decline of the American empire?
	Do you really think that America is not going to go kicking and screaming and try to set off another attack or another conflict?
	Do you really think that they're just going to back off?
	Well, I think there's a good chance of another conflict.
	There's several spots, and Kosovo is one of them.
	It's a transit point for narcotics from out of Afghanistan by the CIA to Western Europe and the rest of the world.
	And that could be a catalyst.
	You could also have an eventual extension into Iran, but I rather doubt it.
	I think that just the winding down of what's going on in the Middle East is going to hurt American foreign policy.
	But I don't really look at things in that light.
	I look at them in the light of who's behind the scenes running the show.
	And it's obvious, even though you hear all of this thunder and lightning about Barack Obama, the Illuminati wants Mr. McCain in there.
	And it's very important to watch out for who the Vice President candidate will be.
	And if they are elected, Mr. McCain is an elderly man, like myself, I might add.
	He might be asked to step down, which he would, for this vice presidential candidate.
	So it's very important who this candidate is.
	Whether they can control that candidate or not.
	Or whether they have to go the assassination route like they do with John Kennedy and others.
	And so, it's very complex.
	And it's hard to reach out into the future.
	And come up with solutions or answers, because there's so many things that could happen, but they're all bad, and that's unfortunate.
	And so I see Russia becoming a greater industrial, economic, and financial power.
	And they do hold a lot of U.S.
	government securities, probably something in the vicinity of about
	About a hundred and sixty or seventy billion dollars.
	There are others like China who own more, but that's a pretty heavy hammer.
	And as you just saw, China used underage athletes, overage athletes, in the competitions in some of the categories.
	And quickly, the others at the competition said, no problem.
	We believe what China's telling us.
	And the real reason behind that is that China probably told them, if you don't shut up, you're going to get a lot of paper.
	And so they've got a hammer over the United States financially as well.
	And I think America's in deep trouble.
	And the world is, for that matter.
	And the adversaries will be the BRIC nations, which China, Russia, India, Venezuela, and so on.
	On where China is headed, I mean, we had Benjamin Fulford on in the first hour and, you know, he was defending the military police state that is China, you know, that they don't have a separation.
	He was denying that they were still harvesting organs there.
	He said they were on the verge of ending one-child policies.
	Obviously, China is being introduced to the rest of the globe through having the Olympics there this year.
	I mean, are the Chinese emerging?
	What is your take?
	Is this it?
	Are they the next dominant power in the world?
	Could be, but they're emerging as a communist power.
	And the people who are in the party make all the money.
	And they're going to continue to do the dastardly things that they've done in the past.
	Not that those, quote, capitalists that we see on Wall Street are any better, but the point here is that they are what they are, and they're going to continue to harvest organs and have one child, and that's understandable for them, because the population is so large, and the ability to feed and allow them to work is difficult.
	And the reason China has emerged, I think the main reason,
	Is to bring down the economies of Canada, the United States, and Western Europe to the level
	Perhaps halfway down to China, and China moves up halfway.
	So relegating everybody to a second world nation, right?
	Instead of a third world nation, they wring us down.
	Well, I'll become second world nations, if you want to put it that way.
	But the second reason is free trade and globalization.
	All the transnational corporations will take Walmart, General Electric, particularly IBM.
	They're making a fortune on this.
	Export from China to the United States or India to the United States.
	And that's the second most important reason.
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	Fox News has learned that some American terrorism investigators fear certain suspects in the September 11th attacks may have managed to stay ahead of them.
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	What about this question of advanced knowledge of what was going to happen on 9-11?
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	Alright folks, there it is, Fabled Enemies, and now jumping back to Bob Chapman of TheInternationalForecaster.com.
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	What should we be doing, in what respect?
	Financially?
	Just to prepare, I mean, not only financially, but I know that, you know, we support storable foods on this show.
	It just seems like the price of everything is skyrocketing.
	Okay, I gotcha.
	First of all, I want to say one last thing.
	The reason for what you saw in Georgia was a distraction.
	And the distraction was because the economic and financial condition in the Western world is dreadful.
	And they needed to do something, just like they did with Iraq, when they did it, to get people's minds off watching their budget, their inflation, their lack of buying power, etc., and get it focused over in Georgia, and it blew up in their face.
	So I just wanted to fit that in.
	I am a great believer, and have been for many years, of having dehydrated, freeze-dried foods filled to the clean water, a method to defend your family, and I think that's very, very important.
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	And I think it's a very basic insurance policy to do these things.
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	Yeah, absolutely, and you know, you're only going to save yourself some time and some heartache.
	I mean, obviously, we are a nation that is just totally and completely dependent on debt, and the way to protect yourself is to get yourself out of that debt before these terrible things do occur.
	Bob Chapman of TheInternationalForecaster.com, thank you so much for joining us.
	We're going to have Richard Gage in the next and final half hour.
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	We are back at the Alex Jones Show.
	I am Jason Burmess and joining me is one of the founders of Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth, one of my friends, Richard Gage.
	He's done just an incredible amount of work to try to expose the lie.
	That is 9-11, especially in the field of controlled demolitions of 1 and 2 and 7.
	And now we have this official NIST report, which literally flies in the face of reason.
	I'm sure that you tuned into the press conference yesterday, Richard.
	Let's just get your take off the bat.
	Yeah, I sure did, Jason, and it's great to hear your voice again.
	NIST laid out the official story
	That we have a thermal expansion of long-span beams that broke their connections at specifically column 79 on a few floors, leaving it unbraced for three or four floors.
	And then, of course, it collapsed, causing a north-south and east-west progressive collapse that brought the whole thing down like a house of cards in about six and a half seconds.
	And that's the official story, but the 47-story skyscraper brought down to a pile of four stories due to normal office fires.
	No contribution by the collapsing debris from North Tower.
	No contribution much at all from diesel fuel fires.
	These are normal office fires, which for the first time in history have brought down
	Uh, a skyscraper, uh, due to, due to fire.
	Uh, never before, even though we've had longer lasting, much larger, and much hotter fires.
	We haven't lost one skyscraper and all of a sudden this one is completely leveled symmetrically, smoothly with a sudden onset.
	Not characteristic at all to destruction by fire, which is a gradual process, asymmetrical collapses when they occur in wood frame buildings.
	But very characteristic of classic explosive
	Controlled demolition.
	Absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	I just want to head back to two points that they now had to admit that the diesel fuel tanks, which was the initial, I guess, explanation on the news that these fuel tanks ignited, they exploded, and that's what brought it down.
	No way that had anything to do with it.
	Then they go on, you know, Popular Mechanics' little hit piece before they wrote their book and said that they had
	Photographs and video that no one else had and it showed that 25% of the building was scooped out up to 10 stories of this skyscraper.
	Now they've recanted that statement and now said that the damage caused by World Trade Center 1 and 2 had little to no significance on this building actually falling.
	Now they also admit, which just shocks me that more people aren't picking up
	They didn't have any debris from World Trade Center Building 7 to actually study, and this was all done with computer models.
	But from what I've seen of the computer models, it's not like they put in a steel beam with the physical properties of a steel beam.
	It looks more like, to me, they built a wireframe based on the blueprints of the building and then just animated it in a way that it would support their hypothesis.
	Yeah, that's what it sure looked like.
	And the animation that they showed us in the press conference yesterday was not even complete.
	They just showed kind of the initiation of collapse around column 79.
	They didn't show.
	And perhaps they couldn't show.
	I don't know.
	The whole building collapsing.
	It's interesting that once again we have a stopping at the initiation of collapse like they did
	No, instead they invented a new term called global collapse, which they used for the first time ever in that 10,000 page NIST report on 1 and 2, and now have used again in this new report on World Trade Center Building 7.
	Yes, and they didn't even mention that the building came down at virtually free fall speed.
	In other words, there's 40,000 tons of structural steel in this building designed to resist its load for the life of the building.
	And yet, in order for this building to come down at free-fall speed and symmetrically, what you have to do is take out all the columns on a given floor within a tenth of a second of each other, and then synchronistically time them floor by floor.
	If your timing is off by fractions of a second, controlled demolitions begin to fail.
	They tip over.
	Because the law of nature is such that mass falls toward the path of least resistance.
	And there will always be a natural, organic process, such as a fire collapse, falling to the side because of that.
	Yeah, it's just insane that it would go through the path of most resistance, and in that model that you're talking about, you can actually watch that on YouTube.
	NIST has put together a three and a half minute video on behalf of themselves, of course, and then they're showing pieces of that in the CNN footage.
	But like you say, this central column apparently, through thermal expansion, detaches.
	I believe it was on the 17th floor, they said, or 13th floor.
	One of those floors.
	Thirteenth floor, yeah, and then the sides of that center start to collapse in, and like you said, they don't show the facade of the building or the entire structure fall down, but they say that because it was the internal structure first, that's why you see the roof line go, and then that pulled the facade of the building down with it.
	Now, I've seen fires of just a small steel reinforced building.
	It came out about a month, month and a half ago, I think it was about
	Yeah, this is an engineered process.
	It can only be that.
	Wouldn't we have chemical evidence of cutter charges in an explosive-controlled demolition?
	Yes.
	It turns out that Dr. Stephen Jones, physicist, finds in the dust this evidence.
	Well, and before we get to that, because he's looking at the molten metal found in the basements of not only World Trade Center 7, but 1 and 2.
	So, where does all of this molten metal come from?
	Seen by the World Trade Center structural engineer, Leslie Robertson himself.
	Seen by structural engineer Abul Hasan Astani, who had unfettered access to the Fresh Kills landfill.
	And seen by numerous first responders, they said, flowing like lava from a volcano.
	And not to mention Ken Holden before FEMA.
	I mean, Ken Holden at the FEMA hearings literally talked about the molten metal dripping from Building 6, okay?
	This was in that entire Ground Zero area, and we know that molten metal, especially steel and iron, cannot be formed.
	Yeah, that's when steel begins to melt.
	But this molten stuff is easily 3,500, 4,000 degrees.
	And so where in the world could that come from?
	Well, first, they deny that it even exists, the Moulton Medal.
	John Gross denies that the Moulton Medal exists.
	He, in Cheyenne Sunday yesterday, didn't even address the issue.
	There were dozens of witnesses.
	Well, we have photographs of it.
	Where could it come from?
	Well, one unusual cutter charge that can be used to be placed in a linear-shaped
	I think so.
	It turns out that its byproduct, thermite, is molten iron.
	And it turns out that this is not melted steel, it is molten iron that melted through the steel beams, the ends of which were horribly corroded, as documented, actually, by FEMA in their Appendix C, in their report, which came out in May of 2002.
	That report
	Yes.
	They had scrubbed the steel from the site, systematically.
	99.99% of the steel, structural steel from World Trade Center 7, was sent to China for recycling.
	This is against the law, basically.
	This is a crime scene, and this is illegal removal of evidence.
	That's a heinous act of treason.
	Yeah, it's a heinous act of treason so that no real independent investigation can be done where they can give you basically put out on an AP wire before the building even goes down the official reason why it's going down and now seven years later that reason has been confirmed with literally no science for instance they said they looked at the possibility
	That's right.
	It's quieter.
	Thermite is an incendiary.
	No, and so they said that, well, it would be a bomb that would be ten times the loudness of a rock concert.
	Well, when I'm talking about a bomb, we're talking about hundreds of cutter charges, really high-tech cutter charges, which don't leave behind wires and blasting caps in traditional... That's right, no deck cords, no blasting caps, so that disinformation that was on the History Channel last summer where the guy's like, well, we didn't find no deck cords, no blasting caps.
	Well, Thermite takes care of that, doesn't it, Richard?
	Oh, don't tell me he lost it.
	He just dropped off, yeah.
	I'll call him right back.
	I'll call him right back.
	I mean, this is from the horse's mouth.
	Richard Gage is a very dedicated individual.
	He knows what he's talking about.
	He has gone through a lot himself.
	This is a personal odyssey.
	People don't do this because they want to believe it.
	They do it because it is the right thing to do.
	In light of this evidence, we know we have been lied to about 9-11.
	And again, our entire foreign and domestic policy has been set up based on this lie.
	And World Trade Center 7, folks, it is the smoking gun.
	It's what I carry around on my phone.
	Most people still don't even know that it went down.
	They don't know what it's housed... I mean, when you have the largest CIA base outside of Langley, Virginia, the largest Secret Service office in the world, the FBI, the SEC, the DOD.
	Okay?
	Let me explain.
	Kroll does not run security on that building, okay?
	A national security apparatus does.
	So if this thing was brought down in a controlled demolition and all, I mean all, of the evidence shows that it was
	It can only be members within our own government that did this.
	Richard, I'm sorry they cut you off right there.
	Please go right back to where you were.
	That's okay, because I didn't need to hear what you just said.
	The architects and engineers for 9-11 Truth are not conspiracy theorists, and so we don't point fingers, we just ask for a real investigation which would, if it were under oath and with subpoena power, appropriately
	uh... technician i we wouldn't have answers to the kind of questions that that uh... your
	Did we drop him again?
	Alright, well I guess that we just can't get Richard.
	Listen, we'll try to get Richard on sometime next week.
	Apologize to him for our phone difficulties, but Richard Gage, Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth, they are really top of the line.
	I guess I'm going to try to take phone calls then in the last 15 minutes or so.
	Let's see who's dropped and who hasn't.
	First in line is Rachel in California, if she's still there.
	Rachel, are you with us?
	Yes, I'm here.
	How you doing?
	I'm fine.
	I just had two quick things I wanted to say.
	Sure.
	One, I'm the person that made the petition for you to get on the Howard Stern Show.
	Oh, excellent.
	Sure, I contact you on MySpace every once in a while.
	You do a lot for this movement.
	You do what you can.
	You take your personal power and try to pursue the truth.
	Well, thank you.
	Anyways, I just wanted to give the URL so people can go there and sign it.
	The easiest way to get to it is just to go to my website and it's www.freewebs.com slash california 911 truth.
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	Okay, it's freewebs.com slash california 911 truth.
	Alright, thank you so much Rachel.
	I'm going to jump to the next caller.
	Let's jump to Sherry in Texas.
	Sherry, are you still there?
	Yep, still here.
	Hey, I just wanted to point out that if you don't know physics, which I don't know physics.
	I'm terrible at that kind of thing.
	And a lot of Americans are just really bad at science and being able to understand all this stuff.
	If you don't understand that, then you can even just look at the economic factors involved.
	You know, whoever, you know, who owned
	I'm not going to say any names, but if you look it up you'll know who owned those buildings and who was, you know, if you follow the money you can kind of figure things out.
	Well sure, I mean Larry Silverstein takes out a $200 million dollar lease right before the attacks.
	He has a $20 million dollar cause for terrorism.
	He ends up pulling in billions.
	Right, exactly.
	And also they only set apart, what, $16 million dollars to investigate the
	Thank you.
	We're good to go.
	Yes, does no one remember on PBS Larry Silverstein actually saying
	I thought there's enough death.
	I decided to pull the building.
	We played that clip earlier today at a terror storm and I'd also like to point out that in the recent BBC documentary they had Larry Silverstein's quote saying, you know, to pull the building and they showed part of it but then they talked to Chief Daniel Nigro and he said, look, if he was talking about pulling the firefighters he would have had no say.
	He would have had no say in what I do with my department.
	So he debunked
	Larry Silverstein's lie that in fact they were pulling the firefighters.
	No, he was talking about a controlled demolition of the building.
	He slipped up on national television.
	Thank you for bringing up that point, Helen.
	All right, let's jump to Jeff in Minnesota, who may be our last caller of the day.
	We got one more segment after this.
	Jeff, what's on your mind?
	Alright, I got a couple things I want to plug right now.
	One thing that's going on, Dennis Kucinich, he's trying to get a million signatures to bring to Congress.
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	Stay on the line, Jeff.
	I'm going to let you plug your other stuff when we get back.
	It's the Alex Jones Show.
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	Yeah?
	Did you want to bring up Richard Gage again?
	He just called back in.
	Um, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Let me just finish with, uh, Jeff and then I'm gonna give, I'll give Richard Gage the floor at the very end.
	Okay, excellent.
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	Thank you.
	Alright, folks, we're back!
	Richard Gage called back, so we're gonna give him the floor at the very, very end, the last two minutes to talk about how you can, uh, get involved in this whole thing.
	But right now, we've got Jeff in, uh, Minnesota.
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	Yes, impeachment, persecution, everything he's been fighting for.
	I mean, his little slogan is, make December the day before the world changed, the day the world changed.
	September 10th, he wants to get that million signatures.
	And the other thing, I'm up here in Minnesota, so we got
	Well, you also have the Ron Paul Convention, so I really think a lot of things can be done.
	You know, I gotta let you go because I have to go to Richard Gage, but I encourage anybody that is going to that Ron Paul Convention or
	Just to the RNC to man up with a camera and get ready for some thick and hairy stuff.
	I don't think they're ready for as many people are going to show up to this alternate convention with Jesse Ventura, Ron Paul, Amy Allen, and others.
	Alright, we've got Richard Gage back on the line.
	I'm sorry we dropped you twice, Richard.
	In the last couple minutes of the show, why don't you just tell people how they can get involved?
	I know that you're constantly looking for more architects and engineers to join the cause.
	Tell people how they can do that.
	Yeah, it is so easy to do something relative to 9-11 Truth.
	The American people have to be woken up, and we've made it pretty easy.
	If you go to the website, 8E911Truth.org, all people have to do is download this letter, this three-page letter that I've written, and attach it.
	It's a PDF.
	Attach it to an email that your listeners, I'm asking them, all of them, all of you, to
	Write an email to every architect and engineer that you can find, attach this letter, and say, hey, I'm not technical, please review this.
	Why are there 435 architects and engineers demanding a real investigation when there's only a half a dozen to a dozen that actually support the official conspiracy story?
	Please, check it out and let me know.
	That is easy.
	We also have the DVDs online at our website.
	You can listen to it, you can purchase it.
	We have materials, cards that you can hand out to people on the street, banners that you can put out in front of architecture offices, architecture schools.
	Hundreds of architects and engineers demand a real investigation.
	It's extremely important that Americans wake up because we are promised another, and far worse, 9-11 by members of the Bush administration, the media, and the Congress.
	Uh, this is extremely disturbing.
	We've witnessed, as I mentioned, the controlled demolition of our democracy through this legislation, such as the Patriot Act, the Military Commissions Act, the forthcoming
	Homegrown Terrorism Act.
	We cannot afford to wait any longer for the next 9-11 and whatever legislation it might bring under the guise of a false flag attack.
	Will it be Iran?
	Will we lose an aircraft carrier?
	Let's not wait.
	Let's wake people up to the reality that every war has started with such a false flag operation in order to bring us in.
	And we have to use this new report as fuel to the fire, right Richard?
	Yes, this report, as ridiculous as it is, from NIST on the World Trade Center 7 collapse by normal office fires, can be used, and people will not buy it, as they need to be shown that this 47-story building was brought down symmetrically at free-fall speed.
	All right, Richard, thank you so much.
	It's Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth.
	Remember, the rebroadcast comes in at about 90 seconds.
	We had Benjamin Fulford, Jonathan Elinoff, Shane Geiger, Bob Chapman, and of course, Richard Gage.
	We went over the World Trade Center 7 NIST report.
	Ad Nauseam, Barack and McCain going down to Ground Zero.
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