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	Government cover-ups.
	You want answers?
	Well, so does he.
	He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
	And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
	As of Showtime today, Central Standard Time, we're having a lot of server problems with InfoWars.com.
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	A lot of times it is simply a server going out, but this happens a couple times a year.
	So, InfoWars.com right now is redirecting.
	You can go there and link through to PrisonPlanet.com.
	And we've invested a lot, but as the site gets bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger, it gets harder and harder to deal with, as we have hundreds of thousands of people on it at any one time, and as we, you know, have a database type system that
	I guess it's WordPress.
	We're about to redesign Prison Planet, but we're not even sure we want to go with WordPress, because we think it might have glitches for heavily trafficked sites that cause this.
	We're trying to analyze it.
	If anybody's got any pointers, you're certainly welcome to email us and give us your tips.
	That's going to be the good part about the next few months moving into a bigger office, is because we are going to be able to have more IT people.
	And right now we don't even have room for folks here in this office.
	And it won't just be one IT person who has to work around the clock to try to keep the sites up and deal with everything.
	And that will be possible to get more video editors and get another extra backup IT person.
	And we're going to go ahead and start the pilot television show designed for Dish Network, DirecTV.
	Slash some of the other systems because $250,000 came in about $215,000 came in by the end of the money bomb Saturday night May 31st 2008 and then over the rest of the following day and today looks like as much as $30,000 more came in
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	Something to try to keep these sites up.
	And just a lot going on.
	Okay, we'll tell you about three big guests.
	Three big guests that we have joining us today.
	When we get back, and a ton of really important news as things flush out with the new world order and as we get a clearer and clearer picture of what's happening and what's going to be happening.
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	From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.
	It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
	Welcome ladies and gentlemen.
	Big show lined up for you on this June 2nd 2008 edition of the Info War.
	Dr. Stephen Jones hadn't been on with us for about a year.
	The physicist who was run out of Brigham Young for going through the physics of the collapse of the towers.
	They just basically paid him off to leave under threat of going after him.
	And he has now traveled the world, traveled the country, exposing the fact that the towers were destroyed in controlled demolition.
	He and others have had peer-reviewed scientific studies published in some of the most prestigious journals in physics and engineering in the world.
	All the little debunkers kept trying to claim that we could never do that.
	Well, it's happened.
	And at the same time, NIST was supposed to release, four years ago, why the towers fell.
	Then they said it would be in 2005.
	Then they said they'd do it in 2006.
	Then they said they'd do it in late 2006.
	Then they said early 2007.
	Then they said mid-2007.
	Then they said late 2007.
	Then they said early 2008.
	And they just will not release.
	Now, they put out five different reasons that Building 7 fell and had to retract each one.
	It was not the oil tank.
	The kerosene tank.
	Uh, in the building for the backup generator for the CIA and command center that was in there.
	Oh, yeah, that's who was in there.
	Uh, and the Army Intelligence and the FBI and the rest of them.
	Spookville.
	It was not one of the towers falling into it, which it didn't complete lie.
	We have the photos and video of the front of the building, and they admit that.
	Uh, it wasn't that it was shoddily built, uh, not to specs.
	They had to retract that.
	Uh, it wasn't that fire weakened it and did it.
	Uh, it wasn't any of that.
	So, remember, when the disinfo people are all over the web and TV and in print saying, why, the government says it collapsed from weakened steel.
	Just remember, NIST doesn't even say that.
	They can't even get the government scientists to lie.
	Just like they couldn't get the CIA to lie about Saddam's WMDs.
	So they created a special office of plans
	With a bunch of foreign agents that work for foreign governments, not even Americans, most of them.
	And they just cooked up lies, and they're doing the same thing with Iran right now.
	It's what they do.
	They're a pack of liars.
	So, Dr. Stephen Jones joining us in about 50 minutes.
	We've got Dr. Meyer Hillman, who came up with the idea 18 years ago.
	He popularized it, I saw it before that.
	He's pushing for a global carbon tax.
	You'll have your global carbon ID card to track everything you do, and you get your certain amount of creds.
	After that, you pay taxes.
	Can't have children unless you're below your cred level.
	Well, you can't raise a child living in a thatch hut with no running water, so it's over.
	You're not authorized.
	So, he'll be joining us, and then Major General Stubblebine,
	He ran Fort Bragg, ran Special Operations for many years, and he will come on.
	There's a big movie coming out, being produced right now, with George Clooney.
	George Clooney bought the book, and stars in it.
	Men Who Stare at Goats, the fellow that wrote the hit piece and later apologized about it, John Ronson, he wrote Them.
	That, by the way, got bought by Jack Black, who is now about to start production, if it's not already in production.
	I'm told, um, of the book Them, and I'm told I'm a central character being made fun of in it, um, Adventures with Extremists, that was a New York Times bestseller, about my infiltration of Bohemian Grove and other escapades, uh, and other, quote, extremists, though I'm the, one of the central extremists, along with David Icke, uh, and then Ian Paisley, of all people, who's just a Protestant, uh, but, um,
	Men Who Stare At Goats is about Stubblebine.
	Because the military believes that with their minds, they did indeed kill animals with their minds.
	And whether you believe in this or not, the government does.
	And the special forces do.
	And so, we'll have Stubblebine on.
	We've had him on before.
	Very, very bizarre.
	But Stubblebine believes in remote viewing.
	Stubblebine believes, I guess you call it astral projection.
	I don't get into these type of things normally.
	This is not kind of our genre.
	It's more of a George Norrie type thing.
	But when it is the former head of special forces, when it is a major general, when it is someone who believes in this stuff, and they're making a major movie about it, I thought, hey, we ought to have him on about this.
	So we will have the man who the upcoming George Clooney movie is about.
	Men who stare at goats.
	We're not sure what they're gonna call the movie.
	Um, but, um... Maybe we can have some special forces for the decade they did this.
	Plus, call in.
	Did you kill the goat with your mind?
	We'll find out.
	Coming up.
	We know the Soviets believe in this stuff, too.
	Well, I bet that throws the atheists for a loop.
	I mean, what do they think this is?
	See, I would totally discount stubble buying, but I've told you I've had quite a few dreams that come true.
	And other experiences I won't get into on air.
	But I mean, this is stuff where I tell people about it.
	And I know a lot of you've had that happen.
	I mean, there's the classic case of... I kept saying, we gotta go see my grandmother.
	We gotta go see my grandmother.
	I hadn't seen her in about four or five months.
	She'd been real sick, but
	She was getting up and around, and she got a stroke years before and had trouble eating, but she was doing fine.
	And I told my dad, I said, we gotta go see her this week.
	I got a really bad feeling about her.
	He goes, no, she's doing real well, but okay, we'll go this Saturday.
	And then he showed up at my house, and I'd been up on some radio show till about 4 a.m.
	This is about five years ago, or four years ago that she died.
	That was four years ago.
	My son was about a year old, or less than a year.
	He shows up about 7.30, bangs on the door.
	I'm asleep.
	He's drinking coffee downstairs.
	I've been up all night.
	He's standing over me in the bed.
	He goes, I'm just going.
	I'll see you there.
	He gets halfway to East Texas, halfway to Buffalo slash Fairfields, where my dad's folks are from.
	And he calls me up on the phone.
	And he says, uh, yeah, my mother just died.
	Your grandmother just died.
	And he was almost there.
	So.
	And they talk about this in the Diamond Mines and the Emerald Mines and the... Oh, what's the other big thing they dig out there in Australia?
	The Opal Mines.
	They'll have those Aborigines down in the mines, and then they're never wrong.
	This has even been in the news over there.
	On mainstream news, they'll come out of the mine, they'll say, put me on a helicopter, put me on a plane.
	My mother's just died, or my father just died.
	They say their connection to their mothers is even stronger, just because they grew inside of them.
	And, uh...
	They'll get on, and they'll call.
	This even happened in the 30s, 40s, 50s, where they a lot of times even had telephones out to the rural areas.
	Still some areas don't.
	And when they get there, mama's dead.
	But I guess when you grow inside another creature, and you're actually timed, your whole metabolic rate is timed to their heartbeat.
	I mean, there's something going on.
	It's like wavelengths.
	You can't see radio waves.
	You can't see television waves.
	You can't see the cell phone waves.
	You can't see most of the spectrum of light.
	You can see the bright sun or you can see rays of sun in dust.
	There's dust or pollen in the air.
	You can see the rays in your house when the sunlight's shooting through.
	That's only one tiny spectrum of everything that's being projected.
	So I don't know.
	The problem is, looking into this stuff, there's a lot of quacks, kooks, nuts, con artists that gravitate towards it, so you can't believe 99% of what you hear out there.
	99% of it is bull.
	That's the thing.
	That's why so many police agencies believe in psychics and go out and hire them and end up having good results, if it's with the few that have actually proven themselves, because the police know there's something to it.
	I don't know what it is.
	Alright, I'm already digressing.
	I got a bunch of news I want to cover, a bunch of audio clips I want to play.
	Let's go ahead and play this first.
	Now, now, now, as bad as this report sounds, it's a complete and total whitewash.
	So we'll play the clip, come back, play the rest of the clip, and then I'll comment on it.
	And then I'll get into a story I covered Friday and Sunday, but not enough.
	They're coming with forced injections for you and your family, and if you don't take them, they're gonna take you by armed force and forcibly do it.
	If you resist, they're gonna kill you.
	But, uh, here's a woman,
	Who, uh, six months before had been in a car wreck.
	And then they, on her medical history, it said that her doctor had put her on some painkillers, but she was no longer on them.
	They blood tested her, didn't show any of the drugs.
	They still took her child.
	Because, quote, they ask questions, and they take your child when you ask questions.
	So, you should know how dangerous the hospitals are.
	You should know, when you go into them, that they've got a quota of children to seize.
	Here it is.
	Well, the birth of a baby should be one of the most exciting moments that a couple will ever experience.
	But an aggressive campaign to screen newborn infants turned that moment into a nightmare for one Indianapolis couple.
	It's a story that you'll see only on 24 Hour News 8.
	This is little Kate Ellis.
	She's healthy and normal, but her birth was traumatic for her parents.
	It started just minutes after little Kate was born.
	A doctor walked in and told her that he was going to have to administer methadone.
	Methadone for a newborn baby?
	New dad Mike Ellis was shocked and then worried about giving such a powerful drug to his daughter.
	A new methadone, I've heard in the past that that is for people that have a heroin habit.
	Mike Ellis was in a panic.
	His baby had just been born at the Methodist Towers and a doctor had suggested the baby be placed on methadone.
	He wanted to talk to his pediatrician.
	His wife Shannon was in a panic too, but it was her medical history that triggered that methadone suggestion.
	Shannon Ellis says her doctor had prescribed hydrocodone for her after she suffered injuries in a February car accident.
	She and Mike trusted that the prescribed drug wouldn't affect the baby.
	Why would you prescribe this to her if this was going to be an issue?
	Which she didn't have an answer for any time I asked that.
	I said, I'm very upset about this.
	If I had to do it all over again, I would have dealt with the pain.
	It turns out, anytime a mother is on a drug, prescription or not, a doctor can order her newborn be screened.
	And if a parent questions or protests, which Mike Ellis did, Child Protective Services can be alerted.
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	I want to tell you what the real policies are.
	When you go into any hospital, and it's 50 times worse if you're doing it on welfare, and you're white, because that baby's worth between $300,000 and $500,000 to them, and you better just look out.
	And they admit that.
	They can take that child and the different agencies and adoption agencies.
	In some cases now, it's up to half a million, or even higher.
	Just amazing.
	And they love middle class families.
	They love that.
	But if it's a healthy white trash baby, guaranteed.
	Because they love it when the parents don't know how to fight and go, it ain't right, I ain't done nothing!
	And they understand they don't know their rights, the system.
	They just tell them, okay, it's alright, just sign the papers, we're taking the baby.
	Just don't say anything.
	You might get it back.
	Don't worry.
	And then they suspend... Don't come to the hearings.
	You just stay there.
	We'll work it out with you.
	And then they suspend rights.
	And they're federally and locally trying to just get to where there's no due process with these fake family courts.
	Which in every case we've investigated are run by the pedophile rings.
	That's why they do it.
	They get the added fringe benefit with the poor kids nobody's protecting.
	They do medical experiments on them and also have their rape gangs on them.
	By the way, if you're listening for the first time and think I'm exaggerating, I'm not.
	They had to shut down two prisons in the last few years just outside Austin, where they would systematically rape all the women and videotape it.
	Women's prisons.
	The Texas Youth Commission, at every facility they were raping children.
	At some, they were selling them out and had the parking lots full at night of local officials coming to pay to rape the children.
	Texas Rangers for years were told to stand down.
	And again, I keep using that example because I live here in Texas.
	I see it.
	You can do a search anywhere.
	Indiana, Florida, Michigan, New York State.
	You know, I mentioned they're murdering the kids with the pesticide and drug test.
	That's in the news.
	They take them, strap them down.
	That's mainly black kids, though.
	That's their favorite there for some reason.
	It's kind of grandfathered in.
	They've always been testing bio and chemical weapons on blacks.
	I mean, the stuff went on with Tuskegee's.
	It's just that back, we weren't as corrupt in the 50s and 60s, and then it came out in the 80s, and so you heard about Tuskegee and the syphilis, and letting them die of it and spread it to hundreds of thousands.
	Nothing.
	Now, it's much worse.
	I mean, what's bad?
	Letting a black man die of syphilis, and in some cases implanting him with syphilis, and allowing him to give it to others?
	Or strapping little black kids down and giving them pesticides till they die?
	It's so amazing.
	Oh no, your government's good.
	You know, that's my whole point here, is the government is so corrupt, so bankrupt, so evil.
	And how this works is, it first started with, well, we'll test mothers we think are at risk for drug use, that have a conviction, or have a history.
	See, when you go into any hospital, they have computers.
	Hangin' on the wall, and the nurse is your little friend, and they sit there, and you don't know it's really a police officer, basically, and that you are now confessing yourself.
	But without you even asking, they run your social security, they run your criminal data bank, it goes through the eugenics office.
	The health departments were set up as eugenics offices in the 20s and 30s.
	And they were originally called eugenics offices, but it goes through your modern eugenics office, the health department.
	That nexus is into the police database, but they then ask you questions.
	They go further.
	Had any dental work done?
	Hmm.
	I sat there while my wife, of course we all know, and we made the decision to not go at home with babies just because the babies we have are so big for some reason.
	And her first pregnancy was real tough, so my first child was over 10 pounds.
	So we, you know, go to the hospital.
	But we understand that they're all brainwashed cult members.
	They don't even mean bad.
	They're just brainwashed cult members.
	We understand.
	But I'm sitting there with the nurse.
	You know, it's always one of the master nurses.
	Mm-hmm.
	Do you have any dental work?
	Mm-hmm.
	What's your dentist give you for that?
	Mm-hmm.
	And that's why, even though my wife just decided not to have dental work, even though she had a cavity and had an infection, she was afraid she might need painkillers anytime in that, and that would be filed.
	We knew the statistics, they'd come after our kids, so she sat there with pus coming out her mouth, everything else.
	Because we understand you're a criminal op.
	We understand you're op.
	We understand who you are.
	We know.
	And, uh, but finally she got some dental work done and had a bunch of cavities fixed after that poor thing.
	Uh, but, uh, listen.
	You're in a car wreck and you're pregnant.
	You do not take painkillers.
	Doctors will order you to take them.
	But they're gonna black op your kids.
	So that's the disinfo in this story, is it wasn't that he questioned.
	That's what the poor dad was told, and I'm gonna get him on after.
	No, the CPS was already called.
	In fact, you hear that.
	Later, they allude to it.
	Didn't matter that there was no drugs in her.
	Didn't matter there was no drugs in the baby.
	Didn't matter if it was legal.
	Didn't matter if it was six months before.
	They were coming.
	And nothing on Earth was gonna stop them.
	And so this is one out of a thousand cases, I guarantee ya, in Indianapolis, Indiana.
	I know they have thousands a year in every major city.
	And so they fought back and got their child back for now.
	CPS is still coming for them.
	But we're going to break down how this works, okay?
	We'll be right back.
	Stay with us.
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	I've gotten burned over Cheryl Teagues, blown up for Raquel Welch.
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	But when I wind up in the hay, it's only hay.
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	I might jump on an open drawbridge.
	We're back live, ladies and gentlemen.
	Thank you for joining us as we defend liberty, resist tyranny, and try to wake the public up to the fact that a predatory government owned by private predatory corporations is hunting you.
	They suck off of you.
	They milk off of you.
	It isn't enough, though.
	Quite a few of us, they actually eat when you get into the political world.
	They feed on us.
	They render us down.
	They use us.
	They murder our children.
	They have their way with us.
	They're being trained to more and more savagely attack us.
	We're being programmed that it's okay.
	By this predatory, sociopathic, psychopathic, sadistic class.
	Now, I want to explain something to you.
	They just said on their medical records, and the medical records said she'd been in a car wreck, and they show the car in the newscast, smashed completely up, the whole side caved in, right on the driver's side, her Mustang.
	And, uh, this nice family, they come, they grab the child, the parents let them grab the child, I don't even know how you do that.
	I know I'd flip out.
	I'm sure the enemies of Sesame knows that's my weak point.
	But the point is, is that uh... and of course the officers are desensitized, well we gotta do this because of all these drug addicts.
	You see, it's one thing if they've got a quote, drug addict.
	Okay?
	And then they know the person's had a history of being a drug addict, and then they still need to inform you under the Fourth Amendment that they're going to be taking your blood and using it against you.
	But see, these ignorant people don't know that.
	But see, now they're done grabbing all the drug addicts' kids.
	And then going and putting them on Ritalin and Prozac and hopping more than two-thirds of the foster kids up on drugs, and they're five times more likely to abuse them than anybody else, so it'd probably be a better form to stay with a drug addict.
	And by the way, they usually don't even give the children to their family.
	The grandmas and people always want the baby they grab from some, you know, poor 22-year-old woman that got hooked on pain pills.
	Uh, and no, the family doesn't get them.
	Some pedophile in another state gets them, usually.
	But, uh, I'm serious.
	So that's how they operate.
	But in this case, no drugs in her, no drugs in the baby.
	Then, and I guarantee it's a false test, they did some super complex, expensive test to find that yes, the baby had quote, been exposed.
	Not that the drugs were in the baby, but they do, I guess, some liver toxicity test to show that the baby had been exposed.
	But actually, I've read that Tylenol, tic and Tylenol will show that, or other chemicals will show that in the liver.
	But, but the point is, is that she was in a car wreck, got her said, take this, it was in her medical records, they use that, and then the CPS came and grabbed the kid, and the media spins it that, oh, they came because she had, um, and he had said, why are you going to give the baby methadone?
	That's a serious, you know, form of, uh, basically synthetic, uh, heroin, which they admit is just as addictive.
	Oh, how dare you question a God, some power trip doctor.
	See, a lot of these doctors want the power to force medicine on you.
	And they'll use extreme examples, you know, of people that won't take medical care because they're Christian scientists or whatever.
	Hey, that's freedom!
	If some nuts want to not take medical treatment, then that's their problem.
	You know, that's what freedom's all about.
	And again, I'm for reasonable things.
	Like if somebody's leg's broken, they need medical treatment.
	But see, it's never gonna be reasonable.
	The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
	That's what that means.
	And then you got the government grabbing little black kids and testing pesticides on them until they die.
	I'm gonna get into that later.
	Let's go ahead and finish up with this piece.
	If a parent questions or protests, which Mike Ellis did, Child Protective Services can be alerted.
	And the state takes action.
	Back at the hospital, a urine drug screen result on baby Kate was negative.
	But it was already too late.
	Child Protective Services was in the process of taking custody of her away from Mike and Shannon Ellis.
	Again, all the Ellis's had to do to raise suspicion and get the state involved was simply ask for their own doctor's second opinion on whether it was necessary to give their baby the powerful drug methadone.
	Let's stop right there.
	It is your right under the Bill of Rights, under common law, to say I want a second opinion.
	But again, the egomaniacs had already called the CPS.
	They love stomping around in their self-important way.
	So just know that when you're in there and the nurse is typing in that computer, it's all going to the cops.
	And then they'll always try to trick the man out of the room.
	Will you take this file downstairs for me?
	Thank you.
	And then, oh, hon, we don't like them in the room.
	We ask this, are you in a safe environment?
	You got plenty of money, plenty of food.
	He doesn't yell at you, does he?
	And women, you know, like to be friendly to other women.
	And then so she'll say, well, sometimes we yell, but you know, he's getting better.
	That's completely normal.
	Mammals always fight with each other.
	Canines do it.
	Seals do it.
	Whales do it.
	Gone.
	Your life's over.
	Your kid is going to be drugged out, having seizures by the time they're 10, passed around every pedophile ring in whatever city they ship them to.
	It's over.
	Your life's over.
	Black Ops win.
	A million and a half kids in their rape centers every year.
	They have their way.
	The government isn't
	Credible.
	They're criminals.
	They've been caught.
	Nothing's more criminal.
	No one's more corrupt.
	No one lies more.
	No one is more bankrupt, as the Founding Fathers told you.
	The best government's dangerous, and gotta be totally controlled and watched.
	The most dangerous thing there is in society.
	And 99% of the time, as the Founding Fathers told you.
	Well, they called a free country, and a place that had some liberty, the most rare jewel to be guarded, and anyone that approaches it must be killed immediately.
	That's, by the way, a Thomas Jefferson paraphrase.
	Talks about killing anybody that approaches the precious jewel.
	Some call it the phantom jewel.
	That's another quote by another founding father.
	It's the ultimate treasure, because from it flows free market, milk and honey, happy families, the strongest people.
	Just play the rest of the trash.
	...drug methadone.
	Judge Marilyn Moores did not rule directly in this case, but she heads up the Marion County Juvenile Court.
	Because of the just huge number of children that we are seeing who are born exposed or addicted to drugs, um, and what a... Stop right there!
	More than two-thirds of the children nationwide, you can pull that up, percentage of foster children on psychotropic drugs, more than two-thirds are on it, and the average child is on seven drugs.
	And then that's how it works, and by then they start having seizures, because the drugs are so toxic, and then they go ahead and give you seizure drugs, and then by the time they've pumped you dry in the system, that's most of the people you see talking to themselves on the street corner.
	I've talked to them, I've gone, tell me your life story.
	They took me from my mama!
	She was a drinker!
	They took me!
	And then they put me in the state school!
	And I remember when I was little, I played soccer, I was doing good.
	And I'm not even putting words in my mouth.
	Tell me more.
	Tell me about the medications.
	When were you put on them?
	When I was sick, because I cried.
	They said I was depressed.
	And you can follow back, if you track them back, you can find their files, who they were, happy little children, shining eyes, a whole life ahead of them, and then the military-industrial-black-op-death-complex got them.
	And by the time they're 20, they throw them out on the street.
	Mines completely shot, most of them shock-therapied.
	They still lobotomize a lot of them.
	Hey, you ought to go watch the black and white films of lobotomies.
	You ought to watch the psychiatrist who invented it laughing as he jams an ice pick in somebody's head and just laughs going... You didn't know that was it?
	See, it was the joke for them to do that right in front of everybody.
	Just stick an ice pick right in your head.
	Yeah!
	Right, and you can go watch the black and white films and you see all the sicko graduate students going, ooh, it's the power!
	The power to strap a kid down in New York City and give them pesticides until they die over three months.
	The power of Satan and evil!
	What else do you want to call that?
	You're not gonna go YouTube, or you're not gonna go get documentaries on the history of psychiatry, their own.
	You're not gonna believe me, you're not gonna believe they jam ice picks into the front of people's brains and laugh.
	For their own petty power, their own sick thrill.
	Guaranteed.
	They were killing animals when they were little kids, torturing puppies in the backyard.
	Now they get to do it to young people.
	Pit demons!
	By the way, I got a lot I want to say.
	Call Jones, see if we can get him on 15 after.
	I got a bunch of other stuff I want to get to.
	Move, move, Professor Jones, if we can, 15 minutes back, because I've got a lot I've got to get to, and I'm kind of getting stuck on this.
	Go ahead and roll the rest of it.
	And what a devastating thing that can be for children, and how hard it is to find them after the fact.
	See, stop right there.
	How hard it is to find the children whose mother was in a car wreck and was on drugs, but isn't now, that the doctors put her on, that doesn't even hurt the baby.
	See, they push this stuff on everybody.
	I mean, I remember the time I broke my leg, I'd have surgery.
	I didn't even take the first bottle of pills.
	My wife didn't even take, the last cesarean, she had a whole bottle of pills.
	It's unbelievable.
	By the way, you take those pills and you put two of them in your lunchbox, because you had a root canal, and they pull you over and find it in your lunchbox,
	You gotta have the pills on you, you'll go to prison for that.
	This system's designed to catch you the prey and put you on the government dinner table.
	So back to this slimeball judge.
	These people make me sick.
	They want your kids, they can hop them up on drugs.
	Bottom line.
	Go ahead, back to it.
	The system reacts pretty quickly.
	It was too quick for the Ellis's.
	And, as they saw it, unfair.
	If it's something that they do... Stop right there!
	They always call everything unfair.
	What was that newscast I was playing last week, where they were harassing and attacking everybody and sucking your blood out on the side of the highway without a warrant?
	And they said, it's unfair!
	See, they never teach you it's your rights, it's against your rights.
	Now they've moved it to, it's unfair!
	See, people seeing this newscast will think the news was on their side.
	Really, an acclamation at the end says, well, it is for the betterment of the children.
	Yeah, that's right.
	So the dirtbags that run government can have their way with these babies in these facilities.
	After they're done raping your baby, they then charge you with it.
	Go back to it.
	Unfair.
	If it's something that they do with everybody in the state of Indiana, okay.
	But that's not the case.
	Stop!
	See, they say, oh, it's okay, just search everybody on the streets and the airports, and you don't have a Fourth Amendment for everybody, but don't profile.
	And then they go on to say, if it's okay for everybody in Indiana, then I'm for it.
	Don't fall into that trap.
	No.
	You don't do it without due process and probable cause.
	I mean, this all started 50 years ago, where the woman didn't have any teeth and had tattoos, and her husband was, you know, just threatening her in front of the nurses and going, give me some more liquor!
	And the baby looked all unhealthy.
	You then
	Have an investigator come in, before it was criminal, before they had the eugenics squads out, and they'd say, you know, and they'd run them, and then see if they had any drug convictions, and then they'd take a blood test.
	But see, now, by the way, there's lies within lies here.
	Everyone is tested and screened for drugs.
	But see, they can't really tell you that publicly, because that is a violation of the Fourth Amendment.
	But so, so they just do it, just like they take your blood samples.
	I've been telling you for 10 years, since I learned of it and had congressmen on about it, that everywhere in the western world, for 35 years, they have been taking your blood at birth and putting it in an international database.
	Now, because people got mad, because I warned them, they went ahead and passed a law three weeks ago, or I guess a month ago now, saying they can do that.
	Now, you can't pass a law that violates the Bill of Rights.
	See?
	They take your blood at birth.
	They test you at birth.
	They test the mother at birth.
	They do what they want.
	They run the daddy's criminal record and use that to CPS kids and say they're at risk.
	They're a criminal dirtbag government.
	Back to it!
	Okay, but that's not the case.
	I mean, they cornered her immediately for something they prescribed for her and treated her like she's a drug addict.
	Infant drug screenings are not mandatory for all babies born in Indiana and not all Indianapolis hospitals do them.
	So, the state removed baby Kate from her parents and placed her in foster care.
	Remember, the urine test for hydrocodone in the baby's system was negative.
	The Ellis's had to go to court to get their baby back, which meant more of a burden.
	They were going to sell her vehicle to be able to get an attorney to be able to go fight to get our daughter back.
	Three days later, the Ellis's were in juvenile court and the news was good.
	The judges ordered the release of the child back to Mr. and Mrs. Ellis.
	So, did the Ellis's do anything wrong?
	I think the mistake was made in that they were not advised of the potential need for this treatment and the reasons for it.
	There you go!
	Degenerate criminals!
	You say, you want to give my baby?
	We don't use heroin!
	And the doctor wouldn't even talk to him because he'd already called CPS.
	Well, I want to get another doctor in here.
	You're not doing nothing.
	Officers walk in, hands at guns and tasers.
	Make one move, buddy.
	One move.
	The Saudis pay top dollar.
	And of course, the dumb cops don't know that.
	The idiot, do-gooder, little doctor doesn't know that.
	Remember the woman just had her wisdom teeth pulled?
	And, uh, she had to pick her daughter up at school?
	You know, part-day school, a four-year-old?
	This was in Phoenix.
	She pulls in, has two glasses of water.
	At the restaurant, they serve water and wine glasses.
	The guy follows her to the mall, where she picked up bath salts to go home and take a bath.
	And yep, she had taken one hydrocodone, but not even yet.
	She had taken it in the car,
	Coming back out of the car, going from the mall.
	The police were waiting.
	They admitted she'd just taken the pill.
	She'd timed it to go home, get in the bath.
	And they went ahead and arrested her for DWI.
	Didn't have alcohol, of course.
	This was in the news.
	But got her now on narcotics.
	Driving under narcotics.
	They're trying to take her kid and she's lost her job and her whole life's over.
	Black ops successful.
	Well done.
	And it's all selectively enforced.
	The illegal aliens are above the law, all the rest of it.
	They do what they want, when they want, how they want.
	And if you think that's bad, it's just beginning.
	I want to get into, when we get back to what I've been talking about since Friday, they want to pass a law to forcibly inject you and give you whatever vaccines they want, whenever they want, including adults.
	And they're saying that if you don't, they will send police, and if you resist, you will be killed.
	That's what happens.
	Imagine, land of the free and the brave, you won't take the injections, which they admit are filled with mercury, cancer viruses, toxins, everything else.
	The government now admits, full of mercury, caused all the autism.
	They're not even denying it now.
	For all the debunkers, you've been disproven again.
	Government in multiple court hearings, signed different reports.
	It's all over the news now.
	You will be killed.
	You will be gunned down.
	And these guys, it's macho to them to kill people.
	They want to kill you.
	And they're going to kill you.
	It's already happening.
	I've already seen a lot of cases where they come arrest people for their kids not taking shots when there's not even a law.
	The government is so lawless, so evil, and they've got all these brainwashed chumps working for them who don't even know it.
	Just keep pushing, keep pushing.
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	Alright, the next story...
	It's one that we've been covering since Friday, but it's just so huge that really we could spend months on this.
	It's so big.
	Headline up on Infowars.net.
	Worst vaccine bill ever seeks compulsory shots for all children.
	Again, Infowars.net.
	Read the bill.
	It's in New York State.
	They're trying similar stuff nationwide. 10942.
	Introduced the request of Richard Danes, the Commissioner of the New York State Department of Health.
	These are the folks that grabbed the kids for medical testing.
	God, they're evil.
	Calls for changes to the law in order to make recommended inoculation compulsory in order for children to attend school.
	But then when you actually read the bill, it says it's for everybody.
	Including all women for human papillomavirus.
	When they admit, go to Gardasil's own website, that it doesn't even protect you from it.
	They say, well, we think it might help with a few strains, 4 to 6 of 350 strains that we believe are associated with cancer.
	But we do know that if you take the vaccine and already have the virus, that there's a 45% increase in you getting the cancer.
	And the average idiot
	I've seen on the news things, this is a shot of vaccine for all cancer.
	Just unbelievable.
	By the way, it's a live cancer virus.
	Most cancer is from viruses.
	Most of the cancer we've got now is from the shots.
	We've gone from 1 in 33 dying of it to 1 in 3.
	They're talking about 1 in 2 now.
	Keep taking your shots, though the government loves you, I know.
	See, you just can't get your mind around how evil they are, or how the locals are compartmentalized and think they're doing good.
	The elected Newark representatives would no longer determine the mandatory schedule for vaccines to attend schools.
	And by mandatory, they claim it's mandatory to attend, but there's a waiver.
	Decisions made by the Federal Advisory Committee on Immunization practice it would automatically become mandatory.
	So, the state's putting you under the feds.
	All children, infants, and toddlers included in New York would be required to get all vaccines recommended by the ACIP according to the ACIP schedule.
	So, forcing all the babies to have the shots.
	You think they already tried to take your kids when you don't now and there's no law?
	Because they're crooks!
	Now the crooks are getting caught so they're trying to pass a law, which is still a criminal law.
	All children, infants, and toddlers included in New York will be required to get all vaccines recommended by the ACIP.
	There's already over 50 of them quote recommended, but see now it's the law.
	But here's the bigger issue.
	A lot of you are going, wait a minute, they already said it's the law to take shots.
	See, there's no law, folks.
	See?
	That shows they're bad.
	That's the proof right there.
	They lie.
	They lie to you.
	I'm gonna come back, get to this, finish up with somebody screaming and yelling at me, amazing YouTube clip showing the true ignorance we're facing, then Professor Stephen Jones and a lot more.
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	You want answers?
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	He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
	And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
	When the criminal government from Illinois to Texas pulls you over and tries to take blood from you without a warrant,
	They claim they're doing it for the prevailing interest of the state.
	The state means the criminal foreign corporations that own our governments.
	And they've had the United States in emergency restructuring under asset forfeiture since 1933, so they're just squeezing their animals.
	They call us human resources and under international treaty we are sold as chattel slaves.
	We're referred to as property.
	Of the state, and they're just now, they've got us trained to how to be, look for handouts, how to be cowardly, how to be weak, how to have our rights violated, how to squeal in fear.
	We are the land of the coward, the home of the slaves.
	From land of the free, home of the brave.
	From the country of Smedley Butler and Chuck Yeager and... All the things personified by the image of somebody like John Wayne.
	We're the opposite.
	Not all of us are, but we're in a sea of weak cowards who have no idea they're going to the slaughter.
	Or thug-like little weaklings who love power.
	Huge armies of parasites propagandizing and feeding on us.
	And all over the nation, every school year.
	It starts up in July, goes through August,
	Into the first days of school, there'll be announcements all over Austin Radio, all over Austin TV.
	I'll see hundreds of newscasts online, every TV station in the country.
	We'll say it's the law.
	No shots, you go to jail.
	Officers are getting tough on those that endanger the rest of the community.
	Of course, if the vaccines are supposedly protecting all of you that take it, why are you endangered by us not taking it?
	See, that's another lie.
	You see, uh, you can get into all the statistics.
	Actually, disease went up after vaccines.
	It went down with hygiene and indoor plumbing.
	And then it actually went back up some.
	It's the same graph in the entire Western world.
	The graph is almost identical.
	But forget graphs and facts and stuff.
	Just roll your sleeves up.
	Enjoy all the autism and cancer.
	And of course, it's admitted that most of the cancers that are viral are from vaccines.
	That's actually admitted in
	Government reports and everything, but you know, just like I told you, mercury was causing most of the autism, and now it's totally admitted.
	You know, just don't listen to me.
	Go ahead, roll your sleeve up!
	I get upset by the fact that they're injecting us with cancer viruses, and I yell and scream to try to wake you up.
	You know, I'm a weirdo.
	I'm bad.
	Don't listen to me.
	You know, I make everything up.
	I'm anti-American.
	I'm scum.
	Because I don't want to lose our country, and our sovereignty, and our currency, and our name, and our future.
	I'm not a good globalist.
	I'm bad.
	I mean, think about this.
	The government's saying, we'll medicate your water with sodium fluoride, and they admit they do, and they say it's forced medication, and we'll forcibly inject you, and we'll forcibly take your blood, and... We'll forcibly do whatever we want, because this is a free country, and we're the government we know best.
	Meanwhile, the government's a bunch of psychopathic eugenicists on top saying they want to kill us, and in government reports saying they wanted to poison the vaccines, and then lo and behold, they've done it.
	And I have all the documentation, and now they're saying that you will be arrested if this passes.
	And that they will come and arrest you if all women from 5 years of age to 18
	We'll have to have this.
	They're going to give me all the sexually transmitted, quote, vaccines, all these other dangerous experimental vaccines.
	They're saying all the kids, even if you don't go to public school, and they're going to, you watch, cops, if they pass this, are going to come and they are going to forcibly shoot you up.
	God.
	And I'm sorry for the cops because
	There's gonna be shootouts.
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	Okay, this is a clip of some kid, I would guess is about 16, 17,
	This is about par for the course.
	I see these every week.
	He's got a bunch of other clips saying torture's good, police state's good, it's pro-America, we gotta do it to fight Al-Qaeda.
	He goes on to say that I'm absolute scum of the earth, traitor, that I hate America, that I'm making money off 9-11.
	I'm not the one that's the Bin Ladens that made three billion the first six months after 9-11 with Carlisle Group.
	I'm not the one
	Like Giuliani that's made over 80 million dollars on it now.
	I'm not the defense contractors who wrote policy papers saying they needed wars for trillions of no-bid contracts in oil.
	So it's just absolutely... I don't have my political view.
	I can't write a book or make a film about my views.
	They always... It's just idiotic arguments.
	And just how I'm America-hating scum.
	This person, of course, means well.
	They're just so ignorant.
	In today's gospel, we will be talking about the torture technique known as waterboarding.
	I believe that we all know what waterboarding is, but for those at home who don't, it's when a prisoner is held down...
	See, Rumsfeld came out and said they were torturing, the news said they were torturing, when they'd all scared us a few months after the attack and people kind of got sold on it.
	But your bosses, the people you love, Bush and the rest of these big government pimps, who are destroying our country, just like the Democrats are, don't you dare call me a liberal, in your false little paradigm, they say it isn't torture.
	But wait a minute, you're saying it is torture!
	All officially.
	You know, I got a feeling bad stuff's gonna happen to this guy in his life with the system.
	And then he'll wake up, then he'll find out it isn't like a movie where the good guys, everybody else is the bad guys.
	In fact, usually it was, you know, the good, the bad, and the ugly.
	Some were good, some were bad.
	Now we are the bad guys.
	Instead of just being like everybody else.
	Uh, so, because we've been sold by the bad guys on evil.
	So start him over.
	He's saying it's torture, but your bosses say it isn't torture.
	Go ahead.
	In today's gospel, we'll be talking about the torture technique known as waterboarding.
	I believe that we all know what waterboarding is, but for those at home who don't, it's when a prisoner is held down and gallons of water is forced down their throats.
	Alright, stop right there.
	Hey, punk, if you forced gallons down somebody's throat, their stomach would explode, and that is a form of Chinese torture, and they would die.
	So, number one, get that right.
	Number two, Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, all of them
	Told the troops, never torture anyone.
	It's totally anti-liberty and freedom and despicable, and it gives you bad information.
	Torture's only good if you want false confessions for propaganda.
	Remember, other countries, the North Koreans, the North Vietnamese, would torture, the Soviets would torture, the Nazis would torture, but they all did it secretly.
	Only our criminal government would admit it.
	So see, you're on the side of history with all the bad guys.
	You're young.
	You haven't been through anything yet.
	I bet you haven't even gone through boot camp yet.
	You look like you're just... I guarantee this kid's ROTC.
	And then most of these little soft types that get into it end up washing out.
	When they first really get screamed at or slapped upside the head, he'll probably poop all over himself.
	Go ahead and go to this coward.
	A recent controversy has occurred of the U.S.
	military doing this to terrorist suspects at the terrorist camp at Guantanamo Bay.
	We, as a nation, need to fight terrorism by any means necessary.
	And waterboarding, to me, is probably one of the simplest and probably less painful techniques there is.
	It simulates drowning.
	It isn't drowning.
	Terrorists, when one of our guys... Stop him!
	Stop the idiot!
	The way the media introduced waterboarding is the field manual waterboarding.
	Putting a rag over the face and the nose and the mouth, pouring water over it so you can't breathe, and you are beginning to asphyxiate.
	If you keep doing it, they would die.
	So you are doing it.
	The way they do it in a laboratory or a facility is, you're put on a sliding gurney and your head is slid up to your soldiers.
	And then you suck in water and they pull it out.
	If you see the Bourne ultimatum, or you see conspiracy theory with Mel Gibson,
	You know, better yet, you want to see waterboarding?
	Go, uh, rent a movie.
	It was sent to me.
	I'd read about it.
	The Battle of Algiers, which won a bunch of awards.
	It's the military that saw it.
	Some people saw it and said it looked like what actually happened.
	It was so well done.
	People seeing it thought it was reality.
	They thought it was a documentary.
	But it shows waterboarding in that.
	And it's the good old stick in your head and a big old cistern of water drowning somebody.
	So get that straight, too, punk.
	Go back to him.
	Terrorists, when one of our guys is captured in Iraq or Afghanistan by the terrorists, God only knows what they do to them.
	It could include electrocution, disembowelment, or anything else.
	Cutting off fingers, toes, anything.
	Let's stop right there.
	No, foreign countries and enemies rarely did that because they knew it escalated the violence continuum.
	You see, once they torture us, we then might do that to them.
	Now you've green-lighted it, we've lost the high ground, and every expert agrees this is going to increase torture worldwide.
	Wrong again, punk!
	Back to him.
	I believe that terrorists are humane enough that they should be treated as such.
	Terrorists are not soldiers, they're anarchists and they're gangsters.
	The Geneva Convention says that to be protected under its law of treatment of POWs in war, they have to have a name, rank, and serial number, and have to be part of an official military and wear the official uniform.
	Alright, I'm gonna play more of this later.
	Yeah, and in those same White House memos directed by Bush, it says torture two-year-olds with pliers by ripping their genitals off.
	So you need to go listen to John Yoo at the CFR being questioned and agreeing that they can do that.
	You need to face the torture of children.
	Because once you do, any means necessary, that's what John Yoo said.
	And Alberto Gonzalez said, and yes sir, they did rape children in front of their parents.
	That finally came out in the paper.
	I hardly ever see anything good in the Austin American-Statesman.
	I couldn't believe it.
	And here it was, Sunday, June 1st, Insight section.
	Filmmaker Errol Morris, I'm gonna get him on, the Abu Ghraib photos concealed as much as they revealed and helped cover up the larger truth.
	And that's right, CBS, we know, leaked those through the government on purpose, the government through them, to minimize, because they knew the Army report was coming out that said raping women, raping children, Jeffrey Dahmers, raping people with acid.
	I can't even say the other stuff on air.
	I mean, it gets worse.
	Let me tell you something.
	Torturing children's genitals with pliers is evil.
	I don't care what you say, you piece of trash.
	All of you, the Attorney General, all of them are the scum of Earth.
	General Mukasey won't say that waterboarding is torture.
	Attorney General.
	Go to when he's threatening me and later I'll talk more about this.
	When he's saying how horrible I am and screaming and cussing at me, we edited that part out.
	Listen to this, this little self-righteous nobody who knows nothing and whose aid to these gangsters and thugs that run our government is helping destroy the name of this country and is dishonoring the police and military's uniforms forever.
	You have dishonored me as an American.
	I cried during the Star Spangled Banner.
	You have destroyed my country!
	Weak scum like you have destroyed the country that had the greatest name in the world!
	We'll never get it back, you piece of filth!
	Matt, just play it!
	When you're in the business that I am, being in politics, there are some people that you want to talk about, some you don't want to talk about, and then there are the other days where there are people that you hope you NEVER have to talk about.
	And in today's lecture, one of the most disgusting and most despicable human beings alive, by far, radio talk show host Alex Jones,
	He's best known for his conspiracy theorism and way, way far out there views on pretty much everything, when it comes to anything.
	He's best known for his 9-11 conspiracy theories, who, and those people who believe that 9-11 was a conspiracy to me, are probably the scum of the earth.
	They are probably the biggest scum of the earth.
	A tapeworm's life is more, is worth more compared to them, in my opinion.
	But today I think it's best that we examine Alex Jones, who he really is, and who his people are.
	And one of his less known but very confirmed theories is that the Columbine high school shooters, Eric Harrison, Dylan Klebold, and more recently the Virginia Tech shooter, Cho Song-Hui, were all under government mind control.
	He truly does believe that those three shooters were under government mind control, and yet he never gives any reason why.
	Yeah, he is.
	Stop right there.
	We're gonna go to Professor Jones after this quick break.
	That is totally false.
	We have broken down a lot of police and others have gone over the evidence.
	We've done three, four, five hour programs on Columbine.
	And I've said the jury's out, but a lot of evidence points towards it in Blacksburg.
	And we have government programs like Operation Northwest that says stage mass shootings and then blame Patsy's.
	And the Russians have now been caught, it's mainstream news, staging the Beslan massacre.
	Do I need to explain to you how they staged that in the theater massacre?
	Do I need to explain to a little boy like you?
	Play the rest of it.
	Yet he has his own talk show, his own radio talk show in his hometown of Boston, Texas.
	But then one day on 9-11 when all that had to happen, that was his Christmas.
	That was his day where he could talk- Stay right there!
	I was on more radio stations before 9-11 than I am now.
	I lost a bunch of my radio stations when I went on air day one and said it was an inside job.
	So don't flip it around and say I got my fame off of 9-11.
	More lies, more disinfo, more innuendo by a
	I mean, you just look at this guy.
	He is weakness personified.
	Weakness trying to act strong.
	I'm gonna play more of it later.
	He starts calling me Phil Scum.
	All this stuff.
	And... Oh, it's just... There's nothing more pathetic than someone trying to act manly.
	And thinking, saying torture and secret arrest and our lives don't matter.
	You don't know what we've gone through to tell the truth, you little punk.
	Shame on you!
	You cowardly, weak chicken neck!
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	Well, he is a published physicist.
	Made some very famous discoveries.
	He's seen as a top physicist.
	And he saw two buildings turn into powdered dust.
	And metal cut off and blown in little pieces and he saw another building fall in a perfect controlled demolition and the countdown by the police and everybody and firemen they were told that the government was going to blow it up and he's gotten samples and tested it his his theory was it would be thermate that could cut through and have explosive power that fast and sure enough they got samples multiple samples and that's exactly what it is the exact signature
	And we know they did it, and he's now gotten his information published in peer-reviewed prestigious journals.
	Engineers have had it as well.
	And NIST keeps saying they can't say why Building 7 fell.
	They admit they're looking at bombs.
	And we are now joined by Professor Stephen Jones.
	And thanks for coming on, my friend.
	Great to be with you again, Alex.
	Pleased to be with you.
	I just hope my little
	Well, we're happy to have you out there.
	You've got the floor.
	Tell us what you want to talk about in the 35 minutes we've got.
	Yeah, let me start with a peer-reviewed paper.
	It was peer-reviewed by three reviewers, and it's 14 points, let's see, what's the rest of it?
	14 agreements with official government reports on the World Trade Center destruction.
	And what we did there, I am an author, a first author, you see, with four other authors.
	You'll know some of these
	Kevin Ryan, James Gurley, Tony Zambotti, a mechanical engineer, Frank Legge, an Australia PhD chemist.
	So what we did is we have, of course, been reading the official government reports on the World Trade Center destruction.
	And we found areas where they're basically admitting that they're having trouble with the fire-based explanation, fire and damage-based explanation.
	For example, with World Trade Center 7, and that's the one that caught my attention three years ago, you know, when I finally woke up, when a friend nudged me, a couple friends, and I saw World Trade Center 7 come down.
	Anyway, that's our first point, and you don't even have the NIST report yet.
	That's the National Institute of Standards and Technology.
	It keeps being delayed and promised.
	I think it's promised again for this month, if I remember.
	That was late last year.
	It was supposed to be out again, and they delayed it until this month.
	Well, we'll see.
	But, of course, they know we're watching very carefully with what they come up with.
	Anyway, so we go back to the FEMA report on World Trade Center 7, and there we read that after FEMA tries to explain the collapse of this skyscraper, 47-story skyscraper, on September 11th, FEMA admits
	Quote, our best hypothesis has only a low probability of occurrence.
	Well, who can disagree with that?
	You know, this is a fire-based hypothesis, and, you know, we just haven't seen skyscrapers come completely down like that ever before or after.
	So they admit that their fire-based hypothesis is weak, a low probability of occurrence, and so we agree with that.
	Another example in the paper
	is the Pancaking Theory, which was promoted by FEMA, actually, in this case.
	This is the Pancaking Floors for the destruction.
	And Popular Mechanics, very famous or infamous, depending on how you look at it, article.
	They promoted, of course, this same Pancaking Theory, as did ANOVA program, Pancaking Floor Theory of Collapse.
	Then we get to NISG and their lengthy
	I don't
	NIST also talks about the fact that the towers fell in essentially free fall.
	We agree with that.
	Of course, they don't explain how that can happen, you know.
	But we do.
	With controlled demolition, you find essentially free fall for buildings.
	But they have trouble with that.
	But at least we agree on the observation.
	Professor Jones, stay there.
	Back in three quick minutes, let's walk through your peer-reviewed report that's really upsetting the establishment.
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	We've got so many guests on the day, but near the end of the show today, I will spend some time on that or maybe even go into overdrive to do that.
	I'm going to talk.
	But we're talking to Professor Steven Jones, award-winning physicist who has got done a peer-reviewed report with other top researchers and scientists from their own fields and professionals.
	There's some other peer-reviewed reports coming out now.
	And the so-called debunkers who've been caught lying every step of the way, I mean, they'll, here's one thing they'll do, they'll say, just, everything they say is a lie or a twist, but, they'll say, uh, NORAD never intercepted one aircraft in the year before 9-11 except Payne Stewart.
	Then you go pull, uh, pull Reuters up, and you see the same major, who's their spokesman, who they're quoting in Popular Mechanics, but you actually go look at the article, he says, we had 167 intercepts in that same year.
	Where the planes, F-16s, were sent up.
	I mean, any pilot out there knows that all the time, pilots that get off course, flying around the storm, who fly over a military base or controlled area, they launch F-16s on you, they direct you down, they threaten to arrest you.
	Sometimes they do.
	They just lie and say... And I called in with Megs, the head of the father of yellow journalism, Hearst Publishing, also on History Channel, that did the hit piece on us.
	Very deceptive.
	Uh, and, you know, film me for days and days and days and finally got me saying, you know, one thing halfway wrong and put that in there, of course.
	I mean, that's what they do.
	Um, I called him when he was on another Genesis show and I said, what about this?
	He said, I'm not going to debate you.
	I'm not going to respond to that because they can't, because I know they're a pack of liars.
	I know what they do, but the general public doesn't.
	But, uh, they kept moving the goalposts.
	They said, you don't have any scientists or physicists or engineers.
	And then we gave them hundreds.
	Now thousands.
	Well, you don't have peer-reviewed journals.
	Well, those aren't prestigious.
	Well, now they're in prestigious ones, but... And then the government says they don't know why Building 7 fell.
	Professor Stephen Jones, continue.
	Walk through your report.
	Walk through the findings.
	Tell us about the other, uh...
	Oh yeah, I mean there's some evidence now
	Alex, and that's, I think, so important from my point of view as a scientist to establish the hard physical evidence.
	I also think the lack of air defenses that day, there's a great deal of evidence that goes along with that.
	Of course, Secretary Manette's testimony, that's evidence.
	And he's now been interviewed three times to confirm that Dick Cheney is lying, and that he was in there at 9-10, not 9-40-something like he said, in control and ordering a stand-down.
	Three separate times he said, no, my testimony was correct.
	Go ahead.
	Yeah, I agree.
	These are very important points.
	Early on, I think the first time we met back in Chicago.
	That was at June of two years ago, Alex, that we met for the first time.
	It was right around this time, early June 2006.
	Wasn't that, that was quite an evening we had.
	It was a lot of fun.
	But you know, I and others called for an impeachment of Richard Cheney and boy, I think we needed in spades.
	Now there's so much evidence that has built up, not just 9-11, but certainly that's the
	By the way, we may have Scott McClellan tomorrow on the show, folks.
	I've got another special guest, but we'll see what's going to happen.
	Go ahead.
	Well, that'd be great.
	Now, Scott has come out, too.
	You see, there's another one that people say, well, why don't these insiders blab?
	Well, they are blabbing.
	As soon as they do... O'Neal!
	O'Neal said, months before 9-11, they had all the oil field maps and said, now he needs an attack.
	Right.
	Yeah, Paul O'Neal.
	You know, he stood up to... Remember, Dick Cheney said, deficits don't matter.
	And Paul O'Neal, Secretary of the Treasury at the time, said, well, they certainly do matter.
	And he was fired.
	By whom?
	Well, by Dick Cheney.
	This is Paul O'Neill standing up for the truth.
	Yeah, and so there are insiders that are standing up and that give us this evidence.
	Now we also have the evidence from the desk, getting back to that 14 points paper for a minute.
	We do talk about thermite in the paper, point number 14 if I recall, and there we mention
	Uh, some of the evidence, and there's also another point.
	Remember the flowing orange, uh...
	Flooring material that comes out of the South Tower in large quantities just before its collapse.
	Oh, let me stop you.
	There's disinfo people showing the photo of the big grappling arm pulling up steel and it's white hot and if you look you can see it dripping, but they show a small picture and claim that that's not molten.
	The thermal imaging from government aircraft, the eyewitnesses, the firefighters, and what we see coming out of the sides of the building all admit molten.
	What do you say to those that say you're lying, there's no molten steel, when the government admits there was molten steel?
	See, that's the thing about this paper.
	The government admits, in particular, this orange flooring material, and they're having a hard time explaining it.
	They finally admitted it's not aluminum.
	Which is something that I've been saying for a long time.
	But the debunkers lie and say that you're lying and there's no molten metal, knowing most people won't read government reports.
	So that's why, you see Alex, we... I think it's a good strategy that we came up with to talk about areas where we agree with the government.
	Yeah.
	I mean, so what are they going to say?
	Well, Mr. Orange Blowing Material, I can see that quoted in the paper, but
	NIST is wrong.
	Well, actually, what I have seen the debunkers say is, oh, I wish NIST hadn't said that, you know?
	But, I mean, there are areas where the truth comes out through NIST.
	There's some white hats, as I would call them, obviously, at NIST, and the facts do come out.
	And they admitted it's not aluminum.
	They admitted it's orange-flowing material.
	They just haven't got an explanation.
	Well, we do.
	To get that orange flowing material, I did an experiment with thermate, in this case, thermite plus sulfur.
	I call that thermate.
	It's fairly standard usage.
	And sure enough, it flows.
	I showed that.
	I poured it out.
	Actually, I had my friend pour it out while I was videotaping.
	Wes poured it out, this orange flowing molten iron plus sulfur.
	And it's got some aluminum in there because of the heat reaction.
	Anyways, you pour that out, it's still molten at the orange-hot temperature, and mimics that matches that which we see at the South Tower.
	So that's in this 14-point paper, briefly, and that refers back to the original 9-11 paper I did, and so, you know, we're referencing back.
	There's another area there with thermite.
	An admission by NIST, because we've been talking about this, that they have not looked for the residues of these materials, thermate or other explosives either.
	Quite an admission.
	An investigative reporter back in New Hampshire, what was her name, Jennifer Abel, called up the spokesman there, Newman, and this is in the 14 points paper, the little interview.
	Which she published in her newspaper back in New Hampshire.
	Anyway, she called Newman and she said, well, why didn't you look for these explosive residues and thermite residues?
	I mean, after all, the NFPA 921 code calls for looking for thermite, in particular, residues whenever there's a crime scene with fire.
	And this is something I've been saying in my talks, and she picked up on that and called NIST.
	Spokesman responds, well, if it's not there, then why look?
	And she didn't let that go.
	She said, now wait a minute.
	How do you know it's not there if you don't even look in the first place?
	And he just gave her this answer.
	He says, well, if it's not there, you're wasting your time.
	It's just such an obvious evasion.
	It's almost funny, except that, of course, so many lives depend on these
	People doing their job.
	Well, I'm not trying to toot your horn, but at every stage from your hypothesis right through, everything has been proven exactly as the hypothesis stated.
	This is like a textbook case of science and the laws of science playing out, and now it's getting exponential with the scientists and others and people in government and defense ministers and, you know, Japanese parliament looking at your evidence.
	It's all there.
	Then you add to that firemen and police saying, get back, they're going to bring it down, they're going to blow it up.
	I remember on the radio that day, ABC and CBS Radio, I'm driving in the car, going to pick a pizza up.
	It's been on air all day.
	I took an hour off to go get a pizza.
	And I heard them say, well, the government may bring down Building 7.
	I mean, they made controlled demolition, and everybody else heard that.
	And then BBC reported that it fell exactly as it officially fell later, 25 minutes before it fell.
	I mean, this is insane!
	And then people say we're liars about government-sponsored terror, but then we have all these declassified admissions.
	Now Chicago Tribune admits Israel attacked the Liberty premeditatedly to try to blame it on Egypt.
	Now it's admitted they staged the Gulf of Tonkin to get us into Vietnam.
	Now it's admitted they did all these other terror attacks.
	I mean, that's admitted!
	And then still, we're weirdos to look at this when they're blowing buildings up right in front of us.
	Yeah.
	It's really something, Alex.
	But you know, we are making progress.
	I've noticed a sea change around Salt Lake City.
	Well, we've moved distance, but
	There was an article that came out May 3rd in the Deseret News, which is the big newspaper, one of the big newspapers in Salt Lake.
	And this article referred to this 14-point paper, our peer-reviewed letter that's been published.
	Anyway, it's a very nice article, actually, in Deseret News.
	And then, of course, there were comments, over 400 comments, and you know, most of those
	As I read through them, were positive and saying, yeah, look, this evidence is piling up.
	It's consistent with controlled demolition using thermite, perhaps other cutter charges as well.
	And so there's been a change of attitude, and it's just palpable in the comments and as I go around giving talks and so on.
	I'll say, yesterday, I went to church.
	I miss Sunday School totally because there's so many people trying to talk to me in the hall, you know?
	Just went after it, just had a great time, but I just totally ended up missing Sunday School.
	People wanted to talk to me about 9-11, and you know, every one of those was supportive.
	I talked later to a fellow who was, you know, kind of on the fence, but I gave him a copy of the peer-reviewed paper, the 14 points paper.
	It's in the Open Civil Engineering Journal.
	And he was quite surprised, frankly.
	Yeah, again, Civil Engineering Journal, they had to review.
	That's very prestigious, very prestigious.
	Explain what this means for those that aren't in the scientific or engineering community.
	Explain what peer-reviewed means and go over the 14 points as quickly as possible.
	Well, yeah, we've hit a number of those points.
	Alex, we can cover a couple more if you want, but I'm hoping people actually read the paper.
	It is.
	I've had comments.
	You don't have to be a physicist or rocket scientist or a civil engineer to read the paper.
	But now, peer-reviewed, it's important that people understand that.
	What it means is, submit a paper to a technical journal like this one.
	They send it out to anonymous reviewers.
	And on that point, I mean, I've published over 50 peer-reviewed papers.
	Having anonymous reviewers is part of the peer review system.
	You can imagine if, in other words, you know, these guys are free now to say, well, this is what's wrong with the paper, or this is what I like about the paper.
	They're totally free because they're anonymous.
	And yet I get, I had a comment this morning, someone saying, well, was this really peer reviewed?
	If it was, give me the names of the peer reviewers.
	I don't know the names.
	You asked me about my Scientific American article.
	I don't know the name.
	Yeah, that's not how peer-reviewed works, dummies.
	Right.
	Yeah, hello, it's anonymous.
	If you don't want scientists having grudges with each other, it's like a secret jury.
	Well, it is, and it's the system about Isaac Newton.
	And it works very well in many cases.
	There are some problems with it, of course.
	The point is, it's a respected journal, it's peer-reviewed, it's certified, and them attacking it is just trying to confuse dumb people.
	That's CENTCOM guaranteed.
	Please continue.
	Well, and another point, you know, I go to some of these, well, one debunking site in particular to see what they would say.
	Now, you'd think they would respond to the 14 points.
	Point number one, World Trade Center's devil.
	Here's our point number two.
	Impact of the Jets did not knock down, you know, was not expected to knock down the Tarasauris, but they didn't.
	Instead, they attacked me personally, and they attacked the Journal for strange reasons.
	I mean, and then this latest one this morning, well, unless you can tell me the names of the peer reviewers, it's not peer review.
	That's just people who don't understand the system.
	I mean, we had three reviews on this one, Alex.
	Three peer reviews reports that came to us, and two of them, I can tell you, were favorable right off the bat.
	The third one was delayed, but you know, that's part of the system.
	And finally, he also agreed.
	So, usually in a peer review,
	Tell us what the reviewers said, and we'll tell them where they can go and read the original paper.
	Uh, it's, it's not gonna work.
	And for those of you that are covering up the attacks, you make yourselves accomplices at the fact.
	I know a lot of you in the military didn't take part in this.
	I don't know why you're going along with the cover-up.
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	He's even an establishment guy on the Kennedy assassination.
	Very respected prosecutor.
	He says Bush and his whole cabinet should be arrested for treason, for murder.
	By the way, there's several major medical journals that say it's over a million dead Iraqis in the last five and a half years.
	It's more like
	Three million total.
	I mean, Madeleine Albright in 97 was asked about 700,000 dead kids and she said, yeah, we've killed that many.
	It's a good price to pay.
	And it's come out that they wanted to paint up airplanes and shoot them down or get them shot down.
	And that was on paper.
	People need to grow up and stop being so childlike.
	Professor Jones, uh,
	Forgetting the fake debunkers who we know are on the payroll, many of them, and we know Hearst Publishing is, with all their dishonesty, the fathers of, you know, they told the painter Remington, you supply the pitchers, I'll supply the war.
	For the Spanish-American War, another staged terror event, the Maine now admitted.
	But going back here, in the time we have left with you, give out the website to read the peer-reviewed report you did, and what other colleagues, what other scientists are saying now that they're seeing this?
	Okay, yeah.
	Let me start.
	I have a letter, an email, just, was it Saturday, I guess, from a professor, University of Hawaii.
	I worked with him on a study a number of years back involving volcanoes, of all things, and it's a long story.
	Great guy, and he wrote to me and he said he'd heard a little about what I was doing, and he's suspicious also, and he wants to read the paper.
	So I sent him the URL.
	Now the URL is kind of long for this civil engineering journal, so I would point people to journalof911studies.com, and then they can link
	To the paper.
	It's right at the top.
	The Civil Engineering Journal.
	I invite you to have it.
	You probably do.
	But anyway, link to that Civil Engineering Journal.
	We've written articles about it.
	You can go online.
	Curt Nemo has.
	And at PrisonPlanet.com and Infowars.com.
	But yes, everybody should read this.
	Don't believe us.
	I mean, you know, it's like I say, go read the Bill of Rights and then ask yourself if the government's following them.
	You know, go read it.
	Actually read it.
	I've read it several times.
	I've read parts of it.
	I hear on air.
	Go ahead.
	Let me emphasize one thing, Alex.
	I know we're running out of time.
	We do have some other papers in the peer-review process.
	Our little research group.
	And I'm working with people from Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth, too.
	You know, great people there.
	So, let me say that expect more of these papers to come out peer-reviewed.
	We have... I'll go ahead and... James Gurley has one that's been accepted and fine paper.
	Hold on, I can hold you over five more minutes if you can do it, because I want to finish talking about this.
	It's a one-minute break, Dr. Jones.
	We're about to break.
	But you just sound like you broke that here.
	You said, I can go ahead and say this.
	Is that breaking news?
	I hope he doesn't mind it.
	But I'm not going to say which journal, because that would not be... But that's okay.
	Tell us about him.
	Tell us what he's doing.
	James Curley is a chemical engineer.
	That's his training.
	And he also has
	A degree, I think, but jurisprudence.
	And so he's just a very sharp young man.
	He lives probably not too far from me, Alex.
	I don't know, but he lives down close to you somewhere.
	And I met him when I was in Austin.
	Was that last year?
	When was that?
	I guess so.
	Last April, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Stay there.
	I want to hear more about these other peer-reviewed studies that are going forward to be peer-reviewed right now.
	And it's just going to happen more and more.
	Scientific study, scientific method.
	The terrorists are in trouble.
	Look, you killed 3,000 of us.
	What do you expect us to do?
	We can't buy your lies anymore.
	It gets us killed.
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	Worked on so many different areas of science and physics.
	A peer-reviewed journal by a prestigious journal.
	I remember when I looked it up and did some searches on that journal.
	I'd heard of that journal before.
	That's a top-tier scientific journal that accepted it.
	You were finishing up, though, talking about other journals and other peer-reviewed processes that are going on with other papers right now, but can you spend a minute or so here, I mean, what it means to have a prestigious journal accepting your paper?
	Yeah, it means there's what we call an imprimatur of acceptability, Dan, because it's gone through
	Uh, peers, PhDs, generally professors, uh, in this case, Civil Engineering Journal, because the topic had to do with the destruction of tall buildings.
	And you've got five different disciplines here.
	One of them that worked at underwriting laboratories where they did their own internal test and found seven couldn't have fallen.
	And then meanwhile, you've got the peanut gallery just giggling and snickering.
	You know, it's not funny, is it?
	No, it's certainly not, and the facts will come out.
	I want to mention another paper.
	Actually, there's three papers right now that we're working on.
	Yeah, run through them!
	Okay, these three have to do with these red-grey chips that, you may remember, I found those in the World Trade Center desk.
	And these were mysterious at first, but now with further studies, and I have a Materials Sciences PhD,
	Who is very interested in working on it.
	You know, using state-of-the-art methods.
	Transmission electron microscopy and differential scanning calorimetry.
	What we're finding, I don't want to, you know, spill the beans too much.
	Spill something!
	Spill it!
	I'll spill it a little.
	Spill it!
	It's not paint, okay?
	These red chips, that's what the debunkers say.
	Oh, it's paint.
	Well, it's not.
	I mean, we've done, uh, I'm seeing tests now.
	It's not pained, and what it has is the components of, uh, thermite.
	It's got aluminum, iron, oxygen, and sulfur, often, in these, uh, red chips.
	A small amount of sulfur, uh, silicon, just not, and then when we, uh, ignite these, uh, they behave like,
	This is something people out of Google on get used to.
	Get ready for this.
	Google on nanothermite and you'll find that there are a few reports out there, mostly from Livermore and Los Alamos National Laboratory, but also from universities that have studied this
	It's a scary, high-tech form of thermite.
	It's explosive, Alex.
	You know, it's one of those debunks that say, well, thermite is only incendiary.
	It doesn't explode.
	So it turns out they have secret government development of highly explosive thermite, and you just so happen to find its derivative.
	And I remember with the thermate signature, you compare it to the composite stuff you found at the World Trade Center at DUS, and it's the exact same signature.
	I mean, this is like Sherlock Holmes.
	I mean, this is it.
	We just keep finding more and more, and those papers will come out.
	That's right.
	I feel like I can talk about this some, because I did discuss it at the University of San Diego State.
	Anyway, in San Diego at the University.
	SDSU, yeah, State University, right.
	This is too incredible.
	So, so, so, I mean, briefly, tell us... Oh, man, I've got other guests coming on.
	I don't want to hold... You don't have to.
	Let me just say, the papers are in the works.
	One of them is almost through the peer-reviewed system.
	We're excited about this, and we're going to get it out there, Alex.
	And are you saying, to be correct here, that we found that this is a government-developed program?
	Um, you know, I'm not... Let's see, I don't know who invented it, but the government has certainly worked on it.
	It's a very high-tech form.
	That's basically... Well, well, high-tech thermite!
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	Professor Jones, physicist Stephen Jones, had to be careful with what he said, and we were out of time, but he did say he could say this.
	It's saw gel chemistry.
	Massive government programs with, and secretive programs, with thermate, basically
	Nanoparticle-ized and formed like C4 plastic explosive force, Special Forces, the military.
	Unbelievable.
	And Kevin Ryan, James Garley and others, it's been approved already by two of the peer reviews, major journal.
	It should be out in the next month, but they can't get too much into the details of it till it comes out.
	That's how these journals work.
	So...
	Unbelievable.
	Dealing with a World Trade Center collapse.
	This is unbelievable.
	And then they went and found all these government projects with it.
	He told me some other stuff I can't even say on area.
	Just he said he'll break it here first in full once it develops.
	Okay.
	Let me shift gears completely now and just play a minute or two of this BBC piece where we heard Dr. Mayor Hillman, who is credited with being the granddaddy of coming up with the carbon tax or carbon card footprint idea.
	Back in 1990, it's now really catching on.
	Let's listen to the first minute or so of this, then we'll go to the doctor.
	Would you live in a greener lifestyle if you could make money from it?
	That may be possible if a government proposal for personal carbon emissions allowances is implemented under this scheme, everyone in the UK would be allocated an annual carbon allowance.
	Stored electronically, rather like a supermarket loyalty card, points would be deducted every time we buy or use non-renewable energy.
	For example, using electricity to power appliances in the home.
	Or travelling somewhere by plane.
	Or even buying petrol for your car on the forecourt.
	Now, any points left over could then be sold back to a central bank.
	Are you still with us?
	And people who need more, like motorists who had used their allocations, could then pay for a top-up.
	On top of paying for the petrol or the electricity, etc.
	We're here to discuss the proposals.
	Our Dr. Mary Hillman from the Policy Studies Institute and James Woodhousen, who's a Professor of Forecasting Innovation at De Montfort University.
	Good morning to you both.
	It's a very intriguing idea, but will it work?
	Mary, let's start with you.
	Well, I first proposed the idea in 1990, and I'm delighted that the government is now seriously addressing this as an option.
	I believe it to be the only option for the future of mankind.
	The planet, as you know, is deteriorating intensely.
	Okay, let's go ahead and go to him.
	There he is, Dr. Mayor Hillman.
	You can read his bio just by typing his name into Google.
	We have links to his Policy Studies Institute.
	He's a senior fellow emeritus there.
	And he's credited with having the idea for this system, of course.
	They're phrasing it there like you get money from this.
	No, it's a tax when you go over your credits.
	But if you have them under, I guess you can sell them back.
	I guess if you live in a loincloth on the back 40.
	So we really appreciate you coming on, Doctor.
	Not at all.
	I'm glad to do so, although I need to correct one of the descriptions you gave just now, which implies that the proposition is a tax.
	It is not a tax.
	It is an allowance.
	It's a ration that everybody is given, as we had
	During World War Two with food when there is a limited availability of food.
	There's no option but to share it out on an equal basis.
	It wasn't the ration of food during World War Two was not a taxed item.
	It was an allocated one by government on the principle of fair shares.
	I have Al Gore, and if you want I can actually queue it up.
	I didn't think to do this, but I can queue it up for my film, Endgame, testifying before Congress.
	And he says that the carbon credit system is a tax.
	He says the cap-and-trade is a tax.
	The Club of Rome, the IMF, the World Bank, in the 60s, you say you came up with this idea, maybe the
	I want to find out specifically what idea you did because they were saying similar things then 40, 50 years ago.
	I mean, how are you saying if I go above my carbon allowance that's quite low, I have to pay?
	So you're saying that's not a tax?
	But the proposition is you don't pay to government, you pay to people who are living within the ration.
	The people who are adjusting their lifestyle.
	Yeah, but you have central banks that, as you say in the newscast, that then trade those credits, and you just have the private banks.
	Yes, but the money, as I say, is not a government tax that then goes to government, it goes to people who are leading energy thrifty lifestyles.
	The fact is,
	Well, we're lucky the social engineers are there to save us.
	I mean, I'm going to let you talk, and I want to hear what you have to say, doctor.
	I didn't just get you here to talk at you, but let's go back to what you were originally saying.
	Last week, I had the head of the new greenhouse carbon emission tax in San Francisco, which I bet you love, right?
	I'm not aware of it.
	Okay, well I had him on and what they do is they charge every business that puts out any type of carbon emission.
	And now the San Francisco Chronicle, the local TV stations, they all called it a new greenhouse tax.
	And he kept saying, all he said for 20 minutes was, it's not a tax, it's not a tax.
	What is something where I've got to pay money?
	And yes, it is paid into these carbon cred groups, and if somebody can live at an impossible level, yes, they'll get a little government payoff to incentivize it.
	But you're saying that is not a tax?
	It's not a government payoff, as I say.
	The proposition is that people who lead energy-propagate lifestyles need to be weaned away from those if we're to save the planet.
	We all have a phenomenal responsibility towards the future for the sakes of our
	Let's address that now.
	I think it's absolutely.
	Well, number one, Mars ice caps are receding at about a mile a year.
	I'm not concerned about the population on Mars.
	Listen, please don't filibuster me, sir, because, well, it's sun activity that's caused the entire solar system to heat up, and all the ice cores show we've had up to 14 times higher carbon dioxide, which I'm sure you know that oxygen, carbon dioxide, solar radiation, and water are the main building blocks that higher temperatures, higher carbon dioxide, mean more life
	A higher life load that the planet can carry.
	We have more polar bears than we had just 50 years ago, from 35,000 to 44,000.
	I mean, what are you talking about?
	I could likewise put the same question to you.
	What are you talking about?
	The fact is that the concentration of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere now is
	Higher than it has been for 600,000 years.
	You can't just bury your head in the sand and pretend that because... What are you talking about?
	What are you talking about?
	I have all the university studies on the ice cores.
	During the Iberian maxim 8,000 years ago it was much higher than it is now.
	And then it was hotter too.
	It was not so.
	The ice cores that have been taken from the ice shelves in the Antarctic reveal that it has not been hotter.
	And maybe there's some people who found some instances which deny that, but this is equivalent... Let me break this up to you.
	Let me ask you this.
	Do plants not breathe carbon dioxide?
	Yes, of course they do.
	Yes, sir!
	Water?
	Well, I'm sorry, listen, if you want to talk science, then how do you respond to the proposition, and this is fact, that the concentrations of CO2, that is carbon dioxide, in the atmosphere is now 3, the latest evidence, 387 parts per million.
	Up to the Industrial Revolution, it was never higher than 250 parts.
	The planet is
	Are you claiming that it hasn't been 14 times higher from samples they've taken?
	14 times higher?
	14 times higher than it is now.
	Well, this is just evidence that is totally fallacious.
	Why are 33,000 scientists saying that, and why have hundreds of the scientists saying that they did not sign on to the fake UN report?
	And how do you explain the fact that the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change... That's what I just said!
	They just invited scientists and then put their names on that report.
	It's all over the news that hundreds are saying they didn't even agree to that.
	And now 33,000 scientists, many times more than that fake report, are saying it's all a fraud.
	What are you going to do?
	You say it's fake because you disagree with those findings and because you don't want to... No, the UN... The unpalatable... The UN want a global tax.
	Are you saying they're not saying carbon taxes are going to be their global tax?
	No, I'm definitely not saying it is a tax.
	That's it.
	I'm not saying it's a tax.
	I'm saying it should be fairly shared out because the planet
	Let me ask you a question.
	Are you a socialist?
	I mean, do you believe in socialism?
	Let me just guess.
	What's your political view, sir?
	Oh, I bet it doesn't.
	33,000 scientists say you're wrong, doctor.
	I have never belonged to any political party.
	I do not aspire to any political role.
	I'm simply an objective social scientist.
	Collectivism?
	I don't know what you mean by that.
	I certainly believe in fair shares.
	And if I go back, as I can do because I'm old enough to do so, to the imposition of food rationing in Britain in 1939... Wonderful!
	Rationing!
	Yay!
	But absolutely, yay!
	I mean, if you've got a number of children and you've only got a limited amount of food, you give some of them more food than others, or you share it out so that they can all survive.
	And of course, the state will direct all this.
	Stay there, sir, please.
	I want to hear about the rationing and how great it is.
	We can't grow, we can't expand, we have to ration, which is what the Club of Rome says.
	A global feudal plantation controlled by the elite.
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	A tax is the best way.
	Put a price on the carbon.
	Cap and trade can also do it.
	If there were a carbon-based tax, would there be a need for an economy-wide cap-and-trade system?
	They are not, either or.
	We can do both.
	I am in favor of both.
	This guy's a big dog.
	He's the man who first pioneered cycle lanes, you see everywhere.
	Carbon allowances.
	Can read about him in the Fabian interview.
	The Fabian, I guess that's the Fabian Socialist Review there.
	And, uh, this is the individual we're talking to.
	Okay, go ahead and tell me about the wonderful rationing, and then maybe, sir, you are pretty prestigious, how you came up with the idea of our little carbon cred cards we're gonna have.
	Well, very simply, the proposition came to me when I realised from the scientific evidence that the planet has only a finite capacity to absorb further carbon dioxide emissions from the burning of fossil fuels.
	Since that capacity is limited and we can't ignore it because the evidence from all over the world is that sea levels are rising, that temperatures are rising, that the Arctic and the Antarctic ice shelves are melting, that deforestation is occurring with forest fires like they were in South America last autumn, burning out of control.
	Wow, you just said something that was true, okay.
	About the trees?
	Everything that I say is true.
	I'm not a liar, which is what is implied.
	Well, no, I'm saying you're wrong, I believe, from the evidence.
	Well, the UN's own report, which has been disproven, says 6% of the carbon is generated by humans in the atmosphere.
	I mean, you know the oceans have billions of times everything we've ever put out, and they hold the carbon dioxide.
	I mean, the stuff you come up with is just...
	Well, the latest scientific evidence shows that the oceans are no longer absorbing as much of the carbon dioxide as they have in the past.
	In other words, what they call the carbon sinks are beginning to return back to the atmosphere, the carbon dioxide, because it is already in excess.
	Thank God!
	Can I finish?
	It's not surprising simply because what we have been doing for the last two or three hundred years is burning fossil fuels which represent, which are the accumulation of the sun's energy for millions of years.
	We're burning it up with gay abandon without any consideration of the claims of future generations, our children and generations beyond them.
	But 33,000 scientists don't agree with you, Doctor!
	Well, yes, in the same way that many people didn't agree that fascism was an evil.
	I mean, that doesn't prove that it isn't an evil because... No, I agree.
	Lord Milner shouldn't have... I think so.
	Lord Milner shouldn't have funded them.
	I base my statements on hard evidence, not on supposition, not on conjecture.
	Like saying none of this is a tax scheme, though I've got the government saying... Well, this isn't a tax scheme, as I told you.
	If it was a tax scheme, I would be opposed to it, because what it would mean was the poorer people couldn't afford their basic needs for fossil fuels.
	But I won't be able... The cost of it would be too high.
	But let's say I win the lottery.
	Let's say I win the lottery.
	Then I can't have three mansions and all the staff I would hire and people I would employ.
	I would be restricted on how much I could eat, what I could do, won't I?
	Well, of course, because of this finite nature, I can't get this out, it seems to be, I can't get it over to you, that the planet has got a finite capacity to go on burning fossil fuels with all the emissions and the adverse consequences in terms of climate change.
	Now, it seems to me in the mid 1740s there was another fella in England who said that we couldn't go on with the population past a couple hundred.
	Yes, Malthus.
	Thomas Malthus.
	Yes, I've heard about that.
	Yeah, he was wrong, too.
	The feudalist 600 years ago in England said... Hang on a second.
	Are you implying by that that the planet can have an ever-growing population that the
	Projections of population increase to over 9 billion over the next 40 years is something that we can reach and still accommodate.
	Within 20 years it's supposed to peak.
	Let me get the numbers.
	Yes, I am saying that.
	I'm saying it's going to peak at about 8.5 billion.
	The West is already dying with an average of about 1.4 births.
	Don't worry, the West is dying.
	And so, once we industrialize, and then we're going to clean up those industries, then you get negative population growth.
	Now, how are we going to clean up the industries by burning more fossil fuels, which is causing the deterioration of the condition of the planet?
	Well, 33,000 scientists say that's not true.
	Well, I'd like to examine the source of their evidence because I'm totally persuaded by the evidence that I've read.
	I mean, yeah, I find it extraordinary.
	Are you saying that you think it's part of a natural process that the Greenland, the ice shelves on Greenland are melting away?
	Tell you what, let's talk about
	We'll talk about Greenland when we get back, doctor.
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	Ah, our good friend Willie.
	Imagine a system where the government controls how big your house is, how big your property is, how much you can eat, what you can do.
	And their answer is, they say, we have to control your life.
	There's not enough.
	We claim it's the science, and they've now come out today.
	Bishop compares global warming skeptics to pedophiles and rapists.
	That's up on PrisonPlanet.com as the headline right now.
	They're trying to pass laws in Europe banning, quote, climate skepticism.
	Boy, that's really always a good scientific idea when they say you're not allowed to doubt it.
	You can read it for yourself, ladies and gentlemen.
	Need to be arrested.
	This is just absolutely amazing.
	What's your view on that, Mayor Hillman, the father of the carbon credits, or carbon rationing?
	The idea now being adopted all over the world, as you say you believe it will be, and your vision is certainly happening, your life certainly means something, doesn't it?
	You've certainly had an effect.
	Do you believe, as some are saying in Europe, that doubting man-made climate change and that it's detrimental should be illegal?
	Well, I must admit I'm not very far from that position.
	It's the same way that the denial about the Holocaust during the Second World War is now illegal.
	The prospect is that millions of people are going to die as a result of climate change unless we grandly modify our lifestyles.
	No doubt about that at all.
	They're already dying.
	The United Nations report
	Really?
	I mean let's take these one at a time.
	Doctor!
	Doctor!
	Let's take it one at a time.
	There's always been hurricanes.
	There's always been typhoons.
	It's always wiped out.
	I mean, they had a hurricane in, what, 1906 in Galveston that killed 20,000 people.
	I mean, I guess that was climate change.
	No, we have storms.
	There are storms on Jupiter.
	There are storms all over.
	This happens, and you guys
	I use Ooga Booga to scare the dumbed-down population into accepting global taxes and regulations, and then you say it isn't a tax.
	Okay, then what is your system?
	Explain carbon rationing to me.
	It's very simple indeed.
	What it is, in recognition of the fact that, as I repeat myself,
	That the planet has got a finite capacity to absorb the consequences of burning fossil fuels, that these are rationed on an equal per capita basis.
	Everybody is given an equal amount of ration to which they can use as they will.
	If they want to use it for travel more than they use it for heating their homes or for heating a swimming pool or for whatever, they can make that decision.
	They live within that limit.
	They can sell any surplus that they've got at the end of the year to those who aren't living within the ration.
	But the ration is reduced year on year down to the level that the planet can support without serious destabilization of its condition.
	That's right.
	It's also social engineering, so you reduce it year after year.
	They always have it real reasonable at first to get everybody acclimated.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Do you think that it's...
	It was social engineering to introduce food rationing in Europe during the Second World War.
	Was that social engineering?
	Well, we know there was a lot of privateering.
	Well, let me talk.
	You asked a question.
	That was social engineering.
	Hey, Doc, Doc, Doc, hold on just a minute.
	Listen, we already got you.
	We have the Club of Rome documents in the 60s and 70s calling it a tax.
	Your particular plan they use is, oh look, it came from the grassroots.
	I mean, this is all pointless.
	I mean, you're here to my audience saying this isn't a tax with the bureaucracy, the regulation, the control, people being arrested for dropping an Apple core in England.
	What are you talking about?
	I mean, seriously.
	We know what this means, buddy.
	We have the documents.
	What are you talking about?
	Who?
	Richard N. Haas, the head of the CFR, says they're going to use terrorism to control and take our liberties and the global carbon tax.
	Who is going to?
	The Western world.
	This is the new organizing principle to wage war against the population.
	Do you think that's proper?
	Do you think that traffic lights are an infringement of the individual right to drive a car?
	A traffic light is not the same as a carbon tax regulating my life and controlling me to a level not even seen in the Soviet Union.
	But let me just stop you, Doc, and let's ask serious questions here.
	Going back, number one, I've got hundreds of studies about volcanoes, the gaseous, the explosive type.
	You know, there's four different types.
	And that class of volcano, like a Mount St.
	Helens, put out more carbon and more greenhouse heating particuli, they estimated, than all industrial activity in the last 75 years in the West.
	Now, we know that sunsets for five years were darker and redder.
	We know it's dust circled the Earth and is still circling the Earth.
	Now, I have those studies.
	I just played Al Gore saying it's a tax.
	If you want me to, I'll pull up and read peer-reviewed studies on volcanoes right now.
	And, I mean, you've got us all wringing our hands.
	We need to be rationed and regulated and controlled.
	But then you tell us, no, it's not a tax.
	No, it's not government.
	Yes, it is!
	Of course, the only government could introduce a system of rationing.
	Individuals can't introduce a system of rationing.
	And they'll need a part of the credits, the money, to pay for it, and they'll drive around in those cars belching the devil's smoke.
	To pay for what?
	Again, I come back to the comparison I made with food rationing.
	That also cost a small amount, but it was recognized.
	More time food rationing is not carbon total control, total regulation, the end of industry and competition and buying your credits from the private central banks.
	Why do you say it should be the other competition?
	I'm going to ask you again.
	Where do we buy our credits?
	Where do we sell them?
	You said on that newscast it's from central banks who are private.
	This is the private bankers literally taking full ownership of humans and taxing breathing and you know it.
	It's nothing to do with private companies interfering with the health of people in their lives.
	What?
	You want to play the BBC piece?
	The BBC piece said that it's going to be the private central banks that are going to control this.
	Well, I really don't know where you got that.
	I mean, I seriously don't.
	And what I would put to you is, if you think that a system of equal shares of a finite commodity... Sharing!
	Oh, like under Stalin?
	Sharing!
	Let's just work together!
	Let's just share!
	You can't let me finish speaking.
	It's very frustrating.
	I was invited to be asked questions, but not to have a blunderbuss talking while I'm trying to explain myself.
	Because everything you say is baloney, man!
	What is?
	Oh, just go ahead, say whatever you want, fine.
	What is baloney?
	It's just baloney, a bunch of control freaks!
	We know the social engineers and collectivists said they'd use environmentalism to control us.
	I have the Carnegie Foundation documents, doctor!
	You've just accused me of being a control freak.
	I'm just working in an office quietly in London.
	I'm saving the world!
	I'm a doctor!
	I'm a control freak!
	I'm Dr. Hillman!
	I'm saving you!
	Ration, ration!
	To behave fairly across the population.
	Do you care?
	Do you care about future generations?
	Do you care about people in the third world?
	You play these moral games, of course, in the free market, and freedom is what will save the future generations.
	You really are an awful interviewer.
	You really are.
	All you do is use your blunderbuss techniques to prevent your listeners from hearing what I'm saying and you're doing it again.
	You're just talking through me and it's very, very frustrating.
	Now you're talking while I'm trying to give answers to your questions.
	You just talk through it.
	Are you trying to stop your listeners hearing what I'm saying?
	Well, I was answering your questions.
	What I'm saying is that I asked you a question.
	Do you care about people living in the third world?
	I'm trying to answer it.
	Do you care about future generations, your children, your grandchildren, if you have them?
	Do you care about the lives, because they are going to inherit a planet in a far worse condition than it was when you were born, when I was born, a far worse condition.
	Moreover, there will be
	Precious little oil left because of the rate at which we're using it up.
	And do you care about that?
	Is that a question?
	Because I'd like to answer it.
	Yes, it is a question.
	Have you read the Royal Commission on Population, 1944-49?
	No, I haven't.
	I suggest you do, and you'll be shocked.
	They say that really all this rationing and control is a way to bring in feudalism.
	They say that they actually want to let the third world overpopulate because that'll hold them back and destroy them.
	I must say, I'm a little worried if you have to scrape the bottom of the barrel to be citing something said in 1944 to justify your position.
	Well, no, this is the basis of State Department memorandum 200, 1973 declassified, 1992, and in my film Endgame covers, and I'm saying where all the... Have you read the Club of Rome Studies?
	Yeah, of course.
	In fact, I bet you've contributed to them, haven't you?
	No, I didn't.
	Oh, you've never gone to speak to them or anything?
	No.
	I don't fly on principle, because I know what a damaging effect it has on the climate.
	Now that may be tough for you to come to terms with, but there are some people on this planet who've got principles which prevent them from doing what they do.
	We cannot go on kidding ourselves as long as we do something in a different way, a little better way, having cars, driving cars which use a little less
	This is total tyranny you're talking about.
	Total tyranny.
	Okay, let me ask you serious questions here.
	If only the US, England and Western Europe are going to adopt these carbon rationing systems,
	Uh, and, I mean, take the Kyoto Protocol, a different system from yours, but where we put caps, and then China, India, Mexico, and 160 other, 161 to be exact, other nations don't, then that will cause all industry to move there, where there's no controls, where there's real toxic waste, and real things that I'm against, and real deforestation, so you piggyback what you're saying on all these real things, and I'm against that, and they've done studies,
	Government studies that that Kyoto Plan would actually increase emissions by about 40%.
	Right, well it just shows how little you've read up what I have written that you can make that statement because I totally agree with you that there is no solution for the world unless all the population of the world including the populations of developing countries of China, India, Brazil and so on are all included in this and the only way
	No, I'm not in favor of... Let me tell you why.
	Let me answer the question.
	We've heard this a million times in human history, and then there's always those that quote, divvy out the equal shares, and they always wear black uniforms.
	There's always police dogs.
	Always barbed wire, always marching around and checking and inspecting and arresting people and there'll be a black market in creds and a black market in people and banning barbecue pits and banning space heaters outside as Europe's trying to do and now here.
	No, I don't want to be a collectivist with some hellish nobody who can't create ideas.
	I want to work hard, have things that people want, and I want to be successful.
	I want to compete.
	I want to go to the stars.
	You want the populations of the third world to share in this?
	But that's not the idea!
	The IMF and World Bank are going to take our money and use it to enslave the third world, not help them, as Al Gore has claimed.
	Dear me, dear me.
	I must say, this conversation leads me to almost a feeling of despair.
	If there are a lot of people who share your views,
	Tell us about your book.
	Maybe we can go get your book, read it, and we'll learn that we're wrong.
	Tell people the title, Ed, about saving us.
	Well, the book is called, How We Can Save the Planet, with the subtitle, Preventing Global Climate Catastrophe.
	It's a paperback now.
	It came out in hardback last year.
	Let me tell you the real threat.
	Well, good, I hope people get it and read what you're saying.
	The real threat is genetic engineering, which top scientists we've had on, and I mean scores of them, Nobel Prize winners,
	That they say something like the Andromeda Project is likely to happen, heavy superconducting supercollider, the one in Switzerland, that, brother, is the real threat, not the life-driving gas carbon.
	And I hope to heaven, somebody, you're invested in your, how are you the father of this?
	When I read Club of Rome saying similar things earlier, I mean, what specifically are you the father of?
	The proposition that only through the medium of having equal shares of carbon, of equal share of fossil fuels, can we look to a future in which we curtail our burning of fossil fuels to the level which do not precipitate disaster.
	But they admit it's a bunch of other... It's already happening.
	But they admit it's a bunch of other gases.
	Oh, there's always been earthquakes.
	There's always been tsunamis.
	Don't try it.
	There always have been.
	Do you deny that the glaciers are receding?
	Absolutely.
	You mentioned Greenland.
	Okay, in Greenland in World War II, a group of U.S.
	and British bombers got stuck in a blizzard.
	They're now under 45 feet of ice.
	The way glaciers work, and everybody knows this, is that there's precipitation by ice, by different forms of water.
	It builds up, it then pushes out to the edges.
	I read Magellan
	When he went past the Antarctic down there at the tip of Chile talking about 15 mile long giant ice pieces floating around everywhere.
	I just know too much history.
	I know that there's always been giant icebergs every spring and summer that break off and I know that's how it works.
	And I know they've done the studies that if the entire polar ice caps melted, which they're not, that sea levels would actually go down because of the salinization calculations in the four different types of ice that are there.
	And we've had top water experts and hydrologists on, breaking down ice studies, showing that actually sea levels will go down if we had total ice melting.
	Well, all I can say is you must have an amazing facility to block your mind when you see evidence which runs counter to what you are saying.
	Are you worried about genetic engineering, Baba?
	That's something that we really ought to have people... No, I've never taken an interest in genetic engineering, you may be pleased to hear.
	An actual super threat.
	Open air, cross-species chimeras.
	What I find extraordinary is that you're trying to invalidate all that I'm saying by making accusations like that I've got a political agenda, which I don't.
	I have a moral agenda.
	Your moral agenda is being used for global taxation and regulation and control.
	Listen, you didn't answer my question.
	Are you saying that volcanoes don't put out more greenhouse particles?
	Of course they do.
	Of course they do, in the same way that there are variations in solar energy.
	The solar flares affect the temperature on planet Earth.
	Why is Earth... Listen, why... Stay there.
	Final segment.
	Final segment, sir.
	We want to come back and talk about Mars.
	Now, when I had Rothschild on and we talked to one of the Kennedys, they just said there's no ice caps.
	Of course there's ice caps on Mars.
	And I refuse to say there isn't.
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	Folks, the global warming hysteria people want to create millions of these phone book sized carbon scrubbers to suck carbon dioxide out of the air.
	They're even talking about cutting down trees because they supposedly put out carbon.
	You can't make this up.
	It's mainstream news.
	The truth is, is that as carbon goes up, the trees grow faster, the plankton's healthier, and then they create more oxygen.
	The earth is oxygen and carbon starved.
	We need more, desperately.
	It is a wonderful gas.
	That's why I raised the point of, if you give people the scientific name for water, 99% will say, ban it.
	It's the same ignorance.
	You tell them carbon dioxide and a mother will grab her child and go, no, please save me!
	With total police regulating everything I do and carbon cred and rationing, help me government!
	Run my life!
	By the way, you got a great review in the Fabian interview.
	What's the views of the Fabian group?
	They're collectivists, aren't they, sir?
	I don't know.
	I was simply approached by a journalist who was acting on behalf of the Fabian review,
	Uh, review, asking if they could interview me, which I agreed to, and that is a record of it.
	Boy, those control freaks would love to have control of all of our energy so we can all be their slaves.
	They're gonna love it.
	You're just, you're just talking rubbish.
	Oh, yeah.
	I'm sorry.
	You really are just talking rubbish.
	When you just talk now about trees absorbing, uh, uh, uh, uh, carbon,
	What you overlooked to say is that when trees die, when trees die, they return the carbon back into the atmosphere.
	Do you know that?
	Do you know that?
	Heavens no!
	Yes, in a lower ratio.
	What?
	I've seen the studies.
	A tree will put out many times in its lifetime
	You know, more oxygen versus when it dies.
	I'm talking about carbon dioxide.
	The trees absorb carbon dioxide as they're growing.
	When they die, they return the carbon back into the atmosphere.
	No, the carbon sinks.
	Pardon?
	Well, what's in the ocean is, again, billions of times what's in all the trees.
	It is indeed, but the... I know, trees are bad now.
	Have you heard the scientists saying cut down trees?
	What?
	Have you heard the people that agree with you saying cut down trees because they're bad?
	Uh, no I haven't and it's a stupid proposition because all that would happen is if you cut down the trees you would, as I was just saying, you would just cut them back in.
	You're interrupting me again!
	How extraordinary!
	How do you get a job that you have now when you interrupt your interview the whole time?
	Listen, I believe you believe what you're saying and I believe you think you're saving the earth.
	I don't care what you think about what I'm saying.
	What I care about is the truth.
	And I'm just trying, but with constant interruption... The truth is, this is not a tax.
	You're doing it again!
	You're doing it again!
	It's not a tax, it's an allowance.
	You're giving everybody... You've got to pay if you go above your allowance!
	You've got to buy the credits from the government!
	Stop talking through me!
	So the poorer people are not penalized.
	Oh, yes.
	Listen, you make me have a heart attack.
	I'm nearly 77.
	And all you're doing is being provocative.
	Wouldn't that help the Earth if humans are bad?
	And talking half-science, half-truth.
	Wouldn't that help the Earth if you died?
	What?
	If humans are so bad, wouldn't that help things if you died?
	I mean, this is rubbish.
	I mean, seriously.
	I mean, you...
	I think you want to see a psychiatrist.
	You better be, because we're not going to be under your control, and we're not going to be slaves, and we're going to defeat you.
	I've never had an interest in controlling anybody.
	I know you mean well.
	You mean well.
	You mean well.
	Pardon?
	You mean well.
	I think you really do mean well.
	I just think you're misguided.
	That's very generous of you.
	Thank you so much.
	Give us the name of your book again.
	I am being generous.
	I want people to get it so they can
	Figure out what to do.
	Well, the book is called How We Can Save the Planet, and it's published by Thomas Dunn Books.
	It's paperback, it's quite cheap, and I can assure you... Dot, Dot, Dot, we gotta go, I gotta interrupt you again.
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	All right, we got Major General Stubblebein.
	George Clooney's making a movie about him.
	Scheduled to be joining us from Panama.
	We'll see if we got those time zones right.
	And, uh, he's scheduled to be on with us, so we'll see what happens.
	Going back and finishing up with Mayor Hillman.
	He's, uh, the father of the idea of the carbon credit cards.
	And I wanted to be able to plug his book and have the floor here at the last three, four minutes of this interview.
	But, sir, I forgot one question for you.
	We're going to have this card that tracks all of our carbon allowance, and I guess that'll have a history of our purchasing and what we're doing.
	Won't that then be used as a surveillance method, you know, with the government or whatever group is going to be controlling this, knowing the history of what we buy and what we do?
	Isn't that surveillance invasive?
	And you've also said that we should be restricted in our free speech, that you lean towards that.
	I mean, so I guess you'd be for that, too.
	I mean, where do you stand on that?
	You're just talking rubbish yet again.
	The fact is that this would be very simply administered when you paid for your petroleum, paid for your gas at the pump, you would have your annual ration reduced or taken off your share of the... That'll be on the database!
	I'm not talking rubbish!
	You just insulted me again and said I'm talking about rubbish, that's why I'm interrupting you!
	You say it's going to be a card.
	What are you talking about?
	Okay, let me repeat again.
	Read my book, How We Can Save the Planet.
	It's published by Thomas Dunn Books.
	It's a paperback and it contains within it the reasons why we need to be seriously concerned, more concerned than anything else that we have had to live with during our lives.
	Seriously concerned about the state of the planet and the trajectory we're on towards... And you support banning people like me that disagree?
	No, of course not.
	I believe in free speech, as you do.
	You just said earlier that you're leaning towards agreeing with it being banned in Europe.
	What?
	The climate denial.
	The denial that the climate is... So you agree with free speech, but you don't, I see.
	And it's a tax, but it isn't.
	Listen, during wartime, which I recall well, there were some people who were denying that there were concentration camps.
	I would have thought that that was sufficient grounds for saying that this should be made a crime, because millions of people were dying as a consequence of this pretense
	Should I be arrested?
	So we're fighting Hitler again.
	If we don't attack Iran, we're for Hitler.
	And if we don't have global taxes, which aren't taxes, we're for Hitler.
	And everything's Hitler, Hitler, Hitler.
	You're exaggerating the line of reasoning I'm trying to use.
	No, no, other people do that.
	Other people say if you don't totally support Israel, what they're doing to Palestine, you're Hitler.
	I had a guy call me yesterday and say that.
	Well, Will, he's wrong.
	Both sides have got a case, and the only way of solving that particular problem is by them sitting down together and hammering out their... And that'll never happen.
	And you agree to that?
	Yeah, I agree with you on that, and I agree with you that volcanoes put out more than humans, but then you just bypass all that.
	I know that
	At least you admit Mars has ice caps.
	You usually have people on there who just go, no it doesn't, you're a liar.
	I'm not concerned with Mars, I'm concerned with planet Earth.
	But you claim my SUV is causing it!
	You claim that I'm causing the global warming and I'm not!
	What?
	You claim it's human cause when it's not human cause on Mars.
	The humans are contributing to it.
	I didn't say they were the cause of it.
	It's solar!
	The UN's own report says 6% even if you believe that baloney report.
	We aren't even a fly on the behind end of this planet.
	It's a planet born in solar radiation and volcanic tectonic upheaval.
	Where's your evidence that it's a baloney report?
	Oh, I've had top scientists on, they're tearing it apart.
	Hundreds of the scientists didn't even sign on to it.
	The ones who agree with you are the reputable ones.
	The 33,000, yeah.
	The ones who disagree are baloney.
	Actual physicists, actual climatologists, who aren't on government grants, who want the global tax.
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	We've got Major General Stubble behind.
	Brent N. Stubblevine III, on with us, was commanding general of the United States Army Intelligence and Security Command from 81 to 84.
	And, uh, before that, um, he was, you know, commanded special forces.
	It just goes on and on.
	He is known for his interest in parapsychology and was a strong supporter of the Stargate Project.
	Stubblebine features heavily in journalist John Ronson's book, The Men Who Stare at Goats, which has now been bought by George Clooney and Section 8.
	And I'm told, not just in the media but from insiders, that he's going to play General Stubblebine in an upcoming big film.
	And I guess me and Stubblebine are kind of in the same
	The other best-selling book, Them Adventures with Extremists, by John Ronson, that I feature heavily in, reportedly Jack Black bought that years ago and now I've confirmed and talked to his folks that he is going to be playing myself and others in a film called Them, which they're about to start producing.
	I hope that gets made.
	Clooney has now optioned the book for the Minister of Goats.
	Boy, Ronson's something else!
	Just came out of nowhere.
	He had a BBC radio show and he writes two books.
	He made a film, Secret Rulers of the World, that I'm in three of the five parts in, that's aired all over the world, but, uh, and now both his big books being made into movies.
	But, uh, I wanted to get Stubblebine's take, because I know what Ronson did to me, and he's apologized on air.
	He said he didn't used to believe in the New World Order, and when he wrote that, he's sorry, and, you know, he knows the most of it's true now.
	But men who stare at goats kind of, in a way, tries to make Stubblebine look like a lunatic.
	When they were doing serious work, so were the Soviets.
	Uh, and you know, he's a respected man, uh, but that's what Ronson does.
	These are like dark satire, non-fiction, uh, and, and we're not gonna spend all day on this, but I figured, and we got Mr. Stubblebine, uh, and his, uh, wife who works with him and their Life Extension Technology, um, group, and they've got a very interesting, uh, website, uh, as, as well, but, um,
	Let's go ahead and go to General Stubblebine.
	General Stubblebine, thanks for coming on.
	Well, you're quite welcome.
	Incidentally, in your introduction, I didn't realize that somebody was planning on having me on film.
	I think they're going to have to chase me to do that.
	No, no, no.
	This is going to be a film.
	This is going to be a non-fiction film of George Clooney playing you.
	They won't be chasing you around.
	Then I may have to chase him.
	Yeah, well, that's the word.
	If you want, I can pull up the news articles on a variety about it.
	Oh, so you hadn't... I guess my producer neglected to tell you.
	I told him to tell you, but I guess, you know, we're all busy.
	We've been hard to reach.
	Yeah, that, yes, George Clooney is going to start playing you.
	Oh, my God.
	This is going to be interesting.
	Okay, well, you didn't know about this.
	Tell me what you think of it.
	I think I'm worried.
	Let me tell you, let me go back to Vietnam for just a minute, and I was frequently asked, I was the G2 of the 25th Infantry Division at the time, the intelligence officer for the division at the time, and I was frequently asked by reporters to give interviews.
	And I said I would be happy to give interviews.
	Incidentally, I tried one.
	What I said and what was printed was so totally different and so totally out of whack that I just almost went ballistic when I found it.
	And I decided that I would not ever, ever give another interview for anybody.
	And so my experience in Vietnam
	Uh, sort of shade all of my experience for the world.
	And, uh, but let's talk about, uh, freedom and health freedom.
	Well, sir, we're going to do that.
	Uh, but I know you don't do a lot of interviews.
	Why do you, this is your second interview with me.
	Why have you agreed to come on this show?
	And I know you've come on a few of the other Patriot shows.
	I mean, have you found that we're more fair than some of the other people?
	The answer is yes.
	It's that simple.
	Well, in that fairness, I didn't try to sneak attack you.
	I mean, I told my producer, telling him it's about this movie and about his health care stuff.
	And I know we also have your highly informed, educated wife on the line with us.
	We'll introduce her coming up in a few minutes as well.
	But I mean, I do want to get into this because this is pretty big news, and I figured you would have known about this.
	If you want, I can pull up the Variety article and some of the others about it.
	But I mean, specifically, John Ronson, here's an example of what he did to me.
	I'm driving to meet him in the middle of the Redwoods at night.
	There is like four foot thick fog on the ground.
	I jokingly say over the cell phone, man this looks like a one of those 1940s werewolf movies.
	I've never seen fog this thick.
	I thought that was made up.
	And he puts in the book that I'm scared of werewolves and believe there were werewolves in the woods.
	So I understand how they twist things from me making a joke about this looks like a movie based in Transylvania.
	You know, it could be I mean literally fog up to your neck so thick you can't see in front of you.
	And a lot of that is distortion.
	Oh yeah, I've heard it.
	A huge amount of that has been highly distorted.
	And I hate to... well, the word lie is a little extreme, but pretty close.
	Again, I get very, very worried about giving interviews.
	However, my experience with you has been pretty good.
	That's the reason we're talking again.
	Well, General, thank you, but the good way to deal with a lie... By the way, incidentally, the reason is you tell the truth.
	Well, thank you, General.
	But, I mean, my point is, is that the good way to deal with a lie, as you know, is to then set it straight.
	So even if we spend five minutes on it, that's all I want.
	Tell us what the truth is.
	That way, people know the reality, as much as you can.
	I know it's classified, versus what John Ronson and others are doing.
	On which particular subject?
	Just a basic overview of the remote viewing, the Stargate stuff, the quote staring at goats, the stuff the Soviets were doing so you guys looked into it.
	You know, the mind power stuff.
	Well, I don't think it's a secret that there is a, or was a program about remote viewing.
	I don't know what the status is today since I retired in 1984.
	I've heard all sorts of different, and incidentally, after I retired, you know, I've worked for six years, I still had clearances, but by 1990 I had retired, retired, retired three times, and so I didn't have any clearances after 1990.
	So I have no real answer to what the real status is.
	At this stage of the game, okay?
	And I've heard conflicting things that it has been buried.
	I heard that on a radio interview.
	Part of truth, I founded a thing called SciTech, which was to use the type of remote viewing that was similar to what we had been using in the military.
	Do I believe in it?
	Sure.
	I believe in it.
	Why?
	Because I know it works.
	Okay?
	That's very, very true.
	Incidentally, I actually was thrown off the board of SciTech because I wouldn't divorce my wife at the time.
	They didn't particularly enjoy her.
	And so I was actually dismissed from the board, but that's okay.
	I know that remote viewing works, okay?
	Period.
	And I also know that anybody can do it.
	Now, there are people who are skilled, there are people who are trained very, very carefully, and those people, I believe, do it a lot better.
	But actually, anybody can allow themselves to go to someplace else other than where they're sitting.
	And it's not too hard.
	And you ran that major project for the military.
	I mean, they believe in it, too.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	I ran it for the Army.
	My contact was
	From the military perspective, it was the Army.
	So, what the Navy did and what the Air Force did and what other people did was their business.
	Mine was, you know, my responsibility was the Army.
	And at the time, I owned or I was responsible for all of the Army's strategic intelligence forces around the world.
	Okay, now, not the tactical intelligence.
	This was all of the strategic intelligence.
	And what that means is everything from the sort of the brigade rear up to the, or not the, excuse me, the core rear up to the National Security Authority.
	So that gives you some idea of
	The people that I was responsible for and probably the subject matter that I was responsible for.
	Okay?
	Yes, sir.
	Now, if remote viewing, if you compare that to health freedom, just as an interesting courtesy or curiosity, the issue is that our lives are being threatened right now.
	Remote viewing does not threaten our lives.
	We have a bigger battle right now.
	Codex Alimentarius.
	That's right.
	Stay there.
	I also want to introduce your wife when we get back.
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	Reema LeBeau, MD, is Major General Albert Brent Stubblebine's wife.
	She's going to be riding along with us as well, talking the next 40 minutes.
	We've got left.
	She's welcome to pop in any time that she would like to.
	You were talking about how our health freedom is under attack.
	You want later get into the fact that you guys have pulled out of the North America, gone down to Panama, setting up a community down there.
	Because of evidence of things collapsing in the future.
	You said you're not sure it's going to happen, but there's enough threat.
	That's everybody else I know who's got a brain that's getting out of the country.
	But please continue, sir.
	Well, Alex, before he does, this is Dr. Labor.
	I've got to say two things.
	One is, I doubt that George Clooney is cute enough to play General Stubblebine.
	And the second thing is, because nobody is,
	And the second thing is we haven't pulled out of the United States.
	Quite the contrary.
	We're setting up a demonstration project in Panama for the purpose of showing how food production can be reclaimed globally, teaching farmers how to create sustainable zero emissions farming without chemicals.
	But we are very much involved in the health freedom aspect of the United States.
	For instance, compulsory vaccination is coming to New York.
	And to New Jersey, and to the rest of the United States, and we are deeply involved in that.
	So, no, we're not out of the United States, but we're looking at the global... Oh, well, doctor, I'm sorry I got that wrong, but obviously, you know, I mean, you're down there because it's important for people to create their own little local communities.
	That's, you know, real diversification, not the fake stuff the globalists are bringing in, but go ahead.
	I mean, you're right.
	They're trying to set up forced inoculations.
	They're now trying to pass that.
	I mean, they're going after the alternative healthcare and minerals and vitamins with Codex Alimentarius.
	Everything's happening.
	Everything is happening at once, and that's one of the really important messages.
	Freedom is indivisible.
	Alex, you know that really well.
	You can't just look at chemtrails.
	You can't just look at deadly vaccinations.
	You can't just look at Codex Alimentarius.
	It's all one thing.
	It's an assault on our lives, our health, our ability to protect ourselves and our children.
	And in fact, my latest email blast called Connecting the Deadly Dots
	It pulls it all together, and I know you pull it all together frequently.
	I want to let people know that they can take a really important step toward winning this battle.
	And health freedom is a battle we cannot afford to lose.
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	And signing up for the Health Freedom E-Alert.
	They're free, they're safe, they're secure, and they contain action steps that we need millions of people to take if we're going to win this battle.
	Absolutely.
	And speaking of chemtrails, you guys are exposing that.
	Can you speak to that?
	Sure.
	Chemtrails have been admitted, as I'm sure your readers and listeners know by now, to exist by the General Accounting Office.
	They've been acknowledged in Germany by the government there, and they are deadly.
	They contain fiberglass particles coated with aluminum, which of course are breathed in, and God knows what kind of havoc they wreak.
	We do know that emergency room admissions go up for cardiovascular and asthmatic
	Uh, episodes by about 14% whenever chemtrail spraying is going on over a city.
	Uh, so do deaths go up.
	We also know that, uh, they contain desiccated blood cells, um, genetically engineered mycoplasma viruses and other horrors.
	They contain beryllium.
	Beryllium.
	They contain, uh,
	Whoa!
	Why do I think they're doing it?
	Somebody is very deliberately making us sick.
	You know, you can't breathe that stuff in and then expect your body
	To adjust to it, even if you have a very good immune system, if you put that stuff into your lungs, you got trouble.
	Now why would somebody deliberately want to put stuff into your body that should not be there?
	You know?
	It's like being in war.
	You don't want to get shot.
	I don't want to breathe that stuff.
	And this is a war, just in case anybody didn't catch it.
	This is a war, and it is a war we cannot afford to lose.
	Okay?
	Oh, there's a war, physically, spiritually, mentally.
	We are under attack by the global eugenicists, as they weaken us, and, uh, for, I guess, the further bio-attack.
	Dick Cheney wrote in the PNAC documents they want to prepare the public through the media for race-specific bioweapons for the mass killing of the population.
	We'll get doctors' take on that.
	We'll also, uh, Rima E. Lebeau, M.D., and Major General Stubblebine.
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	Talk about a host of issues.
	General, you were talking about how they're waging war against us.
	Who are they, and why do you believe that the military-industrial complex working, I guess, for the Globalist has these covert black ops, compartmentalized operations that are so huge?
	Well, do I know exactly who the people are?
	No, I don't know exactly.
	What I do know is that, and this is important because if you go to our, this latest thing that we've just put out in Connecting the Dots, you see where each one of the pieces that you're talking about is one of the dots and where we believe that it gets to.
	Now, you've got to go to www.healthfreedomusa.org and go to the e-alerts and read this, Connecting the Dots, because, Alex, it's exactly what you're talking about.
	I'm telling you, it's really the issue where there are so many different pieces of this puzzle, and where do they all lead?
	Well, if you read the dots, they all read the depopulation.
	Again, www.healthfreedomusa.org, and you can read the rationale that we have in there.
	You've also got a video up there about the chemtrails, but they admit that they want to kill 80% of us.
	They admit they've got covert sterilization programs, and that's in a bunch of government documents.
	They then just don't say where the operations are going on.
	They just admit they're spending millions on it.
	How many people do you think are involved in this global project who aren't compartmentalized?
	Because, you know, there you were, you know, a two-star general, and you didn't... I didn't have a clue what's going on in a lot of it.
	You were compartmentalized even though you were the head of Army Intelligence.
	Sure.
	I didn't know.
	Explain how compartmentalization works, and then, you know, with that unique skill set, how you think this is compartmentalized now?
	I mean, just basically.
	Well, first of all, uh, compartmentalization is easy.
	If you have a need to know, uh, to do the job you're supposed to do, you get, uh, sign up, uh, and you can talk about it with anybody who has the same clearance.
	You're not authorized to talk to anybody who does not have that clearance.
	So you literally set up a wall, uh, with very secure doors
	And the information stays inside that compartment.
	And, uh, so did I have a lot of clearances?
	Sure.
	Did I have clearances to the kind of things that you're talking about right now?
	Hell no!
	I didn't even know that a lot of those things existed until I got out and began to look around and then, uh, as a result of
	The work that Riemann and I are doing.
	It opened a lot of doors that I didn't even know existed.
	Well, that's the thing is that we all... Holy smokes!
	All of us, separately investigating, run into the same thing.
	Exactly.
	They are poisoning us.
	They are killing us from 1 in 33 getting cancer to 1 in 3.
	I mean, all the autism.
	They're admitting that they knew the mercury was doing it and other things.
	I mean, and again, they've got a few thousand eugenicists at the top companies, big pharma, key areas.
	They know what's happening.
	A few thousand people.
	In the rest of the intelligentsia, I'm going to Bilderberg next week.
	I'd say about half of those at that event will have the full picture.
	That's why we're going up against such great evil.
	Not even next week, it's actually tomorrow.
	Time flies.
	All of this is happening, and I don't think the general public, the average cop listening, they don't have any idea, General, what we're facing.
	Can you comment on that?
	And then I'd like to get a doctor to comment on that.
	I would absolutely agree with that.
	And let me tell you one of the set of dots that isn't even, it's only partially on the screen right at the moment, but it's coming, and it is a mandatory vaccination in New York.
	And let me tell you, they're taking the rules
	Out of the Assembly, out of the Senate in New York, and giving it just to those people who are advisory.
	Okay?
	The Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices will then make all of the rules.
	Now, that's getting ready to pass in New York.
	We're opposing it.
	But now, just think of this.
	If it goes into New York,
	Then it will go into every other state in the Union.
	Every other state.
	And you won't have any.
	Rick, control on what goes into your body.
	None.
	Zero.
	Zip.
	Doodle.
	And you think that doesn't bother me from a health freedom perspective?
	Guess again.
	Well, let me paint this picture.
	St.
	George County, Maryland, I had the state attorney on.
	He admitted, he said, there's no law, you gotta take shots.
	I don't give my children the shots.
	Started laughing very sadistically.
	You know, started giggling.
	In fact, off air and on air, he was giggling.
	Yeah, they made all those other kids take them.
	Here's the deal.
	1,500 kids line up, over 1,000 parents.
	They're crying.
	Cops in riot gear, dogs barking.
	Yep.
	And they all told them, it's the law, you've got to do it.
	Now the hoax is being exposed.
	There's no law.
	And I have the Newark law in front of me.
	It says 50 plus that the feds are recommending will be law.
	And it says, even if you don't go to public school, they're going to come make you take it.
	Doctor, you're a medical doctor.
	That is an incredible precedent where they are going to force, they're already medicating us through the water with the sodium fluoride, which they admit eats our brain and attacks the glands.
	But I mean, as a doctor, this is total tyranny and they're doing it.
	Let me give you to Reema.
	As a doctor, and as a citizen, as a mother, as a wife, as a human being, this is total tyranny, and I want to quote Thomas Jefferson.
	He said, if the people let the government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls who live under tyranny.
	Now, I want to point out, we all know autism
	Mercury vaccinations are connected.
	Most people don't know that formaldehyde found in every vaccine is connected with Lou Gehrig's disease, amyotrophic lateral sclerosis.
	They may also not know that according to the schedule proposed by the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practice, that's a CDC committee, an adult reaching the age of 70
	Will be mandated to take 197 doses of vaccine.
	And they're adding new ones every year.
	They're adding new ones every year, whether they kill you or not.
	Now we treated a head of state in our practice in 2002-2003, and she told us, and I can't tell you who it was because heads of state also have patient privacy rights, even if the government doesn't think anybody has patient privacy rights,
	She told us that the useless eaters were to be eliminated globally because they were using, and I quote, our non-renewable resources.
	Useless eaters meaning 90% of the world's population.
	So, if you give a New Jersey child, for instance, 66 doses of a vaccine before the age of 7,
	And you add another 75 to 78 doses before the age of 19 and you wind up with 197 doses of a vaccine which contains stealth viruses.
	Maurice Hillerman of Merck, the head of their vaccine program, in a now famous
	Video made it very clear that the cancer-carrying capacity of the leukemia viruses were known and were found in all vaccines, as well as the polio vaccine that he started talking about.
	If you talk about the fact that compulsory vaccination, as your listeners know, is now permitted or required
	Under Bioshield 1, Bioshield 2, Patriot Act 1, Patriot Act 2, and under the executive order setting up the capacity for martial law and the fact that the Canadian government and NORTHCOM of the United States military signed a pact on February 14th allowing Canadian military to come into the U.S.
	in the event of civil insurrection, national disaster,
	All right.
	Using treatments that are deadly because virology is, in effect, a huge hoax.
	And you can see the attack pattern organically, but then you can read their own documents that have been leaked and that are admitted to be accurate, you know, real government documents.
	They're going to set up a police state.
	She was actually a pretty nice lady.
	It was not the Queen of England, by the way.
	Everybody asks that.
	She was actually a pretty nice lady and she said, you know, this is how I was raised, but I'm not so sure that it's a good idea.
	So that was how far she had gotten in her radicalization.
	But we know that pharmaceuticals kill more people than the non-communicable diseases of undernutrition, as the World Health Organization calls them.
	That is cancer, cardiovascular disease, stroke, diabetes, and obesity.
	We know that undernutrition is being mandated.
	By Codex.
	We know that Codex is contaminating the world's food supply with recombinant bovine growth hormone and other animal hormones and antibiotics and irradiation and pesticides that have been forbidden for use anywhere in the world.
	And don't forget the live cancer baths they put most of the meat in now.
	Precisely.
	Precisely.
	We know that Codex Alimentarius is driven by the United States.
	And by the way, let me give
	Folks, our URL again, because the only accurate and effective voice of the people at Codex is the Natural Solutions Foundation.
	That's www.healthfreedomusa.org.
	And we are asking people to help fund our next trip to the next Codex meeting in Geneva at the end of this month, at the end of June.
	Because our only support, unlike a lot of other so-called health freedom organizations, our only support comes from the pockets of people who care about their health and their freedom.
	We sit at the Codex meetings and we make friends with the delegates of the health-friendly developing nations who are so poor that they can't be bought by the pharmaceutical interest yet.
	And then we go to visit them.
	We go to Africa, we go to Asia, we go wherever people are willing to protect their people.
	And that has huge impact because the United States imports increasing amounts of its food.
	And it also has huge impact in helping these countries change the depopulation agenda so that they are not the victims of food, weaponized food.
	It's having a tremendous impact.
	Our work is changing what's happening in Codex, for instance, specifically around non-labeled genetically modified foods.
	Your listeners already know that it is illegal, illegal, Alex, in the United States to label genetically modified ingredients in food.
	And yet, genetically modified ingredients, we know,
	Well, let me just stop you.
	I've had top scientists, people running government labs, other labs, Nobel Prize winners, where they admit that they'll feed a GMO potato that's been on the market for a decade to mice, and they all die.
	They always were taught in school that mutations only happen during gestation.
	And, you know, most of them during, you know, the First Divisions, and they're saying now they're seeing mutations like a science fiction movie in the organism.
	It's killing all of them, and they put it on our store shelves.
	We're under soft kill, bioweapon attack, and there's no doubt, that goes for all you cops and everybody else who served this evil system.
	General Stubblebine, there you are, Major General, commanding the entire Army Intelligence, running their black ops.
	And you didn't even know about this, but now we reverse engineered it.
	Now we have our own admissions.
	I mean, can you speak to this incredible black op we're witnessing?
	Can I speak to it?
	Well, I mean, just the massive... I'm disgusted by it, Alex, because, you know, if they told you outright that you had a choice that you could put this in your body or not,
	And you, uh, it advertised so that you knew what was there, and you made that choice.
	That's fine and dandy.
	If you want to put that stuff in your own body, go ahead and do it.
	I don't want to be able to, I don't want to put it in my body, and I need to have the choice not to do that.
	And if you... Alex, I get so upset over this issue.
	That I can hardly do anything except sputter.
	And I apologize for that.
	No, no, you're doing great, General.
	But I am so emotional over this thing because I spent 32 years of my life defending all of our rights, all of our freedoms, all of them.
	And here we are.
	And people are making choices for me where I do not have those same freedoms that I used to have.
	Well, that's the thing.
	They're putting poisons in the vaccines, but we can fight and avoid those until they come with organized, and they admit they're training police for mass force inoculations for at least six years.
	But what do you do when they put it in the food, spray it in the air, put it in the water?
	I mean, they admit in major cities they're finding higher levels, Doctor, as you know, of drugs in water that isn't even connected to sewer systems.
	I mean, they're adding it.
	Doctor?
	You bet.
	Well, one of the things that you do is you get real careful about purifying your water.
	That's right.
	You get real careful about either growing your own food locally, making connections with people who grow it organically locally, or
	Participating in a sustainable community-supported agriculture system so that you get organic food.
	Now, organic is not perfect.
	Organic is a low standard.
	But it's miles better than conventional food dosed with deadly, and I say it again, deadly, genetically modified foods, pesticides, hormones, antibiotics, vaccines for the animals that are now your food, etc.
	So, organic is very important, but it's not the end of the story.
	Well, Doctor, I've gotten to the point where if I eat something that isn't organic, or I eat something in a mainline place, I will immediately get sick.
	I mean, this is... My children get sick when they eat stuff that isn't organic.
	Sure they do.
	Absolutely.
	And they get sick not only immediately, where it's easy to see it, but they get sick long-term.
	They get cancer, which when I graduated from medical school in 1970, was a rare, rare event in a child.
	By the year 2020, parents who were born before 2000 will be statistically likely to outlive their children because one child in two, the World Health Organization estimates, who reaches his 18th birthday, if they're born in the year 2000 or after,
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	It's hard to believe that they're coming saying we're going to forcibly inject you with shots they admit are filled with cancer viruses, toxins, poisons.
	They know.
	I mean, they're forcing the death on you right now.
	They're going to come with police.
	This is so important.
	I'm going to have General Stubblebine and Dr. Labo on with us in the first hour tomorrow.
	Then we're scheduled to have a very special guest, just a surprise guest in the hour after that.
	I'm going to leave it at that.
	And then Jason Burmers will be in for the second two hours because I've got to get ready to leave the next day and Burmers will be sitting in the rest of the week while I'm in D.C.
	covering Bilderberg, the people that are killing you.
	It's not fun having to go confront them or deal with them and all their goons, y'all.
	I mean, I'll be there with cops coming up threatening me, saying I don't have a First Amendment, while that very cop's compartmentalized being murdered, his children being murdered by the people in the building behind him, and if I try to warn him, he'll just laugh at me.
	We're talking, though, to the former head of Army Intelligence, Major General Stubblebine.
	He worked in a lot of... He was the head of Fort Bragg, Special Forces, you name it.
	Amazing individual.
	Worked in a lot of super-secret programs he can't talk about.
	And George Clooney's making a movie about him, of course, right now.
	And they are coming to the same conclusion I've come, back-engineering this, but it's admitted.
	They're soft-killing us.
	I mean, slow kills.
	You can't tell who did it.
	And, uh, these are real numbers.
	We've gone from 1 in 33 having cancer to 1 in 3.
	It's about to be 1 in 2.
	Uh, the children, I mean, on my block where I lived before I just moved, 3 kids died of leukemia on the block.
	I mean, you never had children getting cancer.
	And it's not just chemicals, it's what's being injected.
	MD, you're a doctor.
	Dr. Lebo.
	I mean, I know there's cops out there that serve the system, people that don't believe us.
	And boy, when their child's dying, you just said it, half the kids getting cancer are dying from it.
	They're now teaching us that cancer's gonna be like a cold.
	But take your shots.
	Final comments from you, Dr. Lebo.
	I appreciate Lebo, who says you'll come back on with General Stubblebine in the first hour tomorrow to continue this.
	But final comments from both of you.
	My final comment is that this is a battle we cannot afford to lose, and a war we cannot afford to lose.
	And if it means being uncomfortable because you have to look at facts you wish you didn't have to think about, that's the price of freedom.
	Finish those statistics.
	Finish those numbers that we ran out of the brake on.
	The statistics are that we are being slaughtered.
	We are being slaughtered.
	That is the word.
	We are being slaughtered by what we are being forced to breathe through chemtrails and pollution.
	We are being slaughtered by what we are being forced to eat by unlabeled poisons in our food.
	Thank you, Codex.
	Thank you, Big Pharma.
	This would, and I'm interrupting because we're down to the end here, but imagine if Hitler was smart, he would have done it all covertly like they're doing now.
	This is eugenics.
	This is them depopulating the world so they can have it.
	Kissinger, Club of Rome, they all say it.
	General Stubblebine, you never faced an enemy this diabolical.
	What is it like to know the global corporations are killing little babies that get put in coffins
	All around me, all around you, murdering children, the cold-heartedness of giving American children cancer.
	It is, it is disgusting, first of all.
	Second of all, when you think about, uh, again, the time that you spent defending everybody, uh, against this kind of assault, and then you look around, and it's being, you're being assaulted.
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	Okay.
	www.healthfreedomusa.org.
	Go there.
	Go to the e-alerts and take a look at the conclusion that we came to with connecting the dots.
	Incredible interview tomorrow.
	We'll have you both on at the start of the show.
	Thank you so much.
	Okay?
	Okay.
	God bless you both.
	I'll talk to you for one moment off air.
	God bless you all.
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	It's known as the Bilderberg Group.
	Couldn't their objective be world domination?
	For thousands of years, their dark order grew.
	Now, as they hail the birth of the New World Order, their great dream of exterminating 80% of humanity is at hand.
	For the first time in history, the elite's plan for world government is blown wide open.
	You will learn the secret that drives the entire New World Order agenda.
	Bill of Rights is making great progress toward a world government.
	Most people have no idea.
	They're not after money.
	They have all the money they need.
	They're after power.
	That's what Apple needs here.
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	Eugenics dominated the 20th century.
	Its ruthless spirit has now