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Government cover-ups.
You want answers?
Well, so does he.
He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
All right, ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining us.
It is already Thursday.
It is the third day of April 2008.
We're going to be live here for the next three hours.
I need your help.
You know, when we had Willie Nelson on, it took a day or two to get the Associated Press to pick it up, and then it did break nationally, and there was a
Still somewhat of a news blackout on it, but it did get out in the alternative media, and most Americans ended up hearing about it.
And all over the country, when Willie Nelson goes on tour now, people come up to him and say, hey, I heard you on the Alex Jones Show.
Why is that so important?
That is vitally important because that is a sounding board.
That's a sonar ping back at us that it had a massive effect and caused a lot of people to wake up and look at the official story.
But more importantly, we already have 80 plus percent in some polls, 60 plus percent in other polls, so we know it's way more than half the public say that they believe they've been lied to about the official story.
They say that they've been lied to about the official story.
But they are afraid to speak out at the water cooler.
They're afraid to speak out at the lunch counter or at church.
They're afraid to speak out with their friends and family.
And when they hear about
Governor Ventura going public, when they hear about Willie Nelson going public, when they hear about a high-level Japanese member of parliament going public, when they hear about a highly respected former president of Italy, president for seven years, one of the most respected presidents in modern history, when they hear about CIA section chiefs and Bob Baird, Bill Christensen, Ray McGovern, the list goes on and on, coming out and saying inside job, Michael Meacher, who was number three in Blair's government,
Actress of the year, best actress, Oscar winning actress, 2008 coming out and saying it.
Hundreds of engineers and scientists and physicists coming out and saying it.
That creates courage and it makes it easier for others to stand up and go public in the trails that have already been blazed by others.
This is so important.
I need your help.
We all need to help each other.
I need you to go to InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.
They're the top stories right now.
There are three top stories.
One is former Governor Jesse Ventura, WTC collapse, a controlled demolition, Navy veteran and movie star, Savage's official story, says media covering up truth about attacks.
This is powerful information.
This is important information.
This is information that needs to get out to everybody right now.
There's another story, dealing with what Ventura said in his incendiary hour and twenty minute interview here yesterday.
Jesse Ventura warns of Obama assassination attempt.
And by exposing government sponsored assassinations, we reduce the chances that they will be committed in the future, not against Barack Obama, but against Ron Paul or others that we know are coming in the future.
There's another one of dealing with Jesse Ventura.
Right up at the top of presentplanet.com.
Where 20 plus publishers refused to care and book Operation Mockingbird Behavior.
MSNBC silencing him.
He broke all this yesterday on this very show.
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Big Brother, Mainstream Media, Government Cover-Ups.
You want answers?
Well, so does he.
He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
I don't want anyone to take for granted how big that Jesse Ventura interview was.
This is the former governor of Minnesota, who I met with a year and a half ago, and he said he had questions because he knew the government had staged things with Operation Northwoods, had wanted to stage terror attacks, and then he knew Gulf of Tonkin had been staged to get us into Vietnam, but that he still just couldn't believe that they'd carry the attacks out, that they let it happen.
And he says that in his new book, but yesterday on this show, and it's the first time he's done it, I was talking to him during a break and he just said, look, I'm coming all out today.
I'm just going to go ahead and say what I really think.
I don't know why people come on this show and they just spill their guts.
I guess God moves their heart or something, even though they're like Jesse Ventura and don't believe in God.
But, you know, the point here is he came on the show and he said that the government basically carried out the attacks and they were controlled demolitions.
The stories are up on PrisonPlanet.com, right at the top, the three stories written by Paul Watson and Kurt Nemo.
They need to go to every radio station, every TV station, especially the AP in Minnesota.
I need you to fax them, call them, email AP all over the country, Reuters, the Pioneer Press in Minneapolis-St.
Paul, the Star up there in Minneapolis-St.
Paul.
The Duluth paper.
I'm giving you key attack points where I know they'll pick it up.
L.A.A.P.
I got people working on it here.
We have a very small staff.
Now, they're going to try to block this and keep it from coming out.
We need your help.
This is big news.
I had to lobby the Associated Press to pick up the Willie Nelson information.
So we're going to be talking about that coming up in a few minutes.
But first, the economy.
Ron Paul, yesterday, on the Banking Committee, in Congress, boldly
exposed Edward Bernanke and talk about how this country's going into fascism.
Fascism is where the private corporate interest control the government and where the government is in league and controls the corporate interest.
The Federal Reserve engineered the monetary system that has caused what's happening today.
Now they want to get rid of three federal regulatory agencies, and the Federal Reserve wants to be judge, jury, executioner, chief inspector, detective, beat cop, chief cook, bottle washer, everything.
Just total, this country will be fully run by the Federal Reserve.
It's just amazing.
So here is Congressman Ron Paul yesterday.
Congressman Paul.
Thank you, Madam Chairman.
Welcome, Chairman Bernanke.
There's a political philosophy that advocates the merging together of the interests of business and government.
At the same time, with a loss of civil liberties of the people.
And I'm afraid we're moving in that direction, not just in the last year or two, but over many, many years.
When you think about, especially since 9-11, there has been some loss of civil liberties that we shouldn't be unconcerned about.
There are warrantless searches.
There's no really financial privacy or medical privacy in this country.
Habeas Corpus has been challenged, as well as the Internet privacy is being challenged.
So civil liberties have been challenged.
But the combination of business and government has been ongoing for a good many years.
I would say possibly for a hundred years, but more so now.
And I see what we're doing today, or at least a proposal by Treasury, as a massive move for a lot closer association of business and government.
Most everybody's aware of the military-industrial complex and the combination of how military contractors and government are in bed together.
Now we have a medical-industrial complex.
The media is very much involved with government, as well as just about everything that we have.
Government and businesses are very much involved.
But the original...
The purpose of our government was to regulate the government.
And not for the government to regulate the people.
Because there really isn't any authority to people for the government to tell us what to do with our civil liberties or to run our businesses.
I mean, if we believe in the marketplace, the market is supposed to be self-regulating.
And there can be a case made for that.
But we have embarked for many years in this effort to have the government do all the regulating.
From my viewpoint and the viewpoint of many others, we should be regulating the government.
We essentially don't.
I mean, when you think about the authority, you as the Chairman of the Federal Reserve, and what the Federal Reserve can do, I mean, it really goes unaudited.
Very, very little oversight.
And now when you think about the recent embarking of the president's working group, and this is not an advisory group, it's called a working group.
I mean, they're not economic advisors.
We have presidential economic advisory, but we don't have minutes of the working group.
We don't know what they do, what kind of action, what authority they have.
And once in a while we hear a report, but we're
Giving more power to this working group, which means that it looks like we've really given up on the Republic, you know, freedom and the marketplace and sound money, and all we accept is more encroachment of our civil liberties, more collusion between business and government, and it looks like this is a massive increase in the combination of government and big business.
So my concern really is very philosophic.
I mean, most of us deal here from day to day.
Is this regulation good or is this regulation bad?
Without realizing that the general rule is that when government creates a regulation, they create the need for two more regulations.
And the same way, when we allow our banking system to inflate the economy, it causes the bubbles to occur, and then we have to inflate to prevent them from breaking and deflating.
So it goes on and on, and we perpetuate our problems.
But it seems to me that the basic question that we don't ask, and we should ask, is
Why do we have a business cycle?
And for a hundred years, the conclusion has been in this country, philosophically and practically at the political level, is that it's a consequence of freedom.
It's a consequence of capitalism.
And therefore, we need government to save the people from their freedom.
Freedom of choice personally, loss of civil liberties, and the freedom of choice of businesses.
So, could you tell me, do you accept the idea that
The business cycle is a consequence of capitalism and freedom?
Or is it a business cycle, could it be that others who say it's a consequence of government interference?
Because that to me is the key question and depending on how you answer that depends on everything we do from here on out.
Well, Congressman, first a word on the President's Working Group.
That's an informal group of the heads of various agencies.
It has no separate statutory authorities, but it's a chance to get together and talk about issues.
And on a number of occasions, as you've noted, we've put out reports that have no statutory
We're good to go.
I think?
And it was dissatisfaction with that that led in 1913 to the creation of the Federal Reserve to try and stop these periodic financial crises.
This created the set of consequences that you allude to in the sense that if you're going to give the Federal Reserve power over the financial system in particular, if there's going to be moral hazard induced by that,
Then for the protection, you need to have some regulation to prevent the moral hazard from creating further distortions in the financial system.
But I do agree with you that the fluctuations often have a private sector entrepreneurial component to it.
And we are neither able nor should we try to completely eliminate fluctuations in the economy.
Does the Federal Reserve contribute to the business cycle?
It has.
It has in times.
Most notably during the 70s when inflation got out of control and the Fed had to raise interest rates sharply to control inflation and it resulted sometimes in slowdowns in real estate.
Does excessive credit and low interest rate cause malinvestment?
Artificially low interest rates?
Well, the question is, you know, is the judgment about where interest rates ought to be.
We have, of course, a mandate for maximum employment and price stability.
We're trying to balance those obligations.
So we could make mistakes and put the interest rate at the wrong place and that would have negative impacts.
I agree.
So we're doing the best we can to find the right place to put the interest rate, the one that's consistent with the neutral rate or the rate that establishes a full employment economy.
And someday we may try the market to determine the interest rates.
Thank you.
Well, there you have it.
In the House Banking Committee, Congressman Ron Paul, the leading Republican on the committee, grilling Bernanke.
And if you read the proposal made last Thursday by the Federal Reserve, by the way, we have Bob Chapman joining us in the third hour to talk about that from the International Forecaster,
It's amazing.
And I was driving into the Sunday Radio Show Sunday and I heard Fox News Radio going, The Federal Reserve is proposing to crack down on corruption in the markets and problems.
And it said, strangely enough, with less regulation.
So, get rid of the Securities and Exchange Commission, get rid of a bunch of other federal agencies, which, granted, are revolving doors from the Federal Reserve and revolving doors from Wall Street and the brokerage houses and banks.
Kind of like the FDA's a revolving door, or the EPA's a revolving door, or the Pentagon's a revolving door from the defense contractors and the generals.
But now, it's just one group will have all the power.
The private bankers that own us.
That own you and your family.
That's their view on it.
We'll be right back, ladies and gentlemen, here on the GCN Radio Network.
We're going to get into a bunch of economic news, the Jesse Ventura interview, and a lot more.
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Before I get back into the incredible Jesse Ventura revelations, there were like five of them breaking here on this show yesterday.
I had no idea it was going to do that.
And before I get into the economy and the guest we have joining us today, I wanted to get into a story out of the
Metropolitan newspaper out of Canada, Obama's minister claims that HIV-AIDS is a eugenics depopulation agenda and is supported by U.S.
investigative researchers.
So again, to read that headline, Obama's minister's claim that HIV-AIDS is eugenics depopulation agenda is supported by U.S.
investigative researchers.
This is by David Stein.
I'm gonna get David Stein on.
You'll probably hear him tomorrow or next week, but in this article he goes over a lot of the mainline history and research and documents that the autoimmune virus, known as AIDS, was engineered as a soft kill, that is a slow kill, hard to track bioweapon, and that it's only an umbrella cover story now for a whole bunch of different soft kill bioweapons that are targeted towards blacks.
They also, of course, Homo sapiens sapiens are all so closely interrelated, it kills whites as well.
But, more than a hundred times harder, and these are mainline studies, but they're suppressed for a white to contract them.
Now, most whites in Central and Southern Europe and Eastern Europe, from Moor invasion and Turkish invasion, have Negroid blood.
And please don't be so politically correct that I use a scientific term.
Call in thinking that's a racist term.
That's a Caucasian, Asian, Negro.
That's where these terms come from.
Let's be adults.
They arrest you in England if you say the word homosexual because the ignorant public believes that it's a slander.
It's heterosexual, homosexual, homosapien, sapien.
It's just scientific terms, okay?
And I'm not being sarcastic to our learned audience that's smarter than I am in most cases.
Believe me, you cannot underestimate how dumb some of the public are.
Let's get back to killing the blacks instead of freaking out about the word Negroid.
Obama's ministers claim that HIV AIDS is eugenics depopulation agenda supported by U.S.
investigative researchers.
I'm going to get into this later.
That's up on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com right now or you can go to the
Metropolitan website, and we'll post that up on the site of this post so you can go link through to it.
School Fluoride Program, ensuring a lasting smile.
Now, just type in School Fluoride Program, or Fluoride School Program, and this is how this works very often.
I was on InfoWars.com looking at the stories Curt Nemo had written or posted, and I was reading some of the comments, because there's always good tips in them, and a lot of times entertaining stuff as well.
And I saw a lady saying, I'm so mad, my son is in elementary school and he comes home with fluoride tablets every week and they make him wash their mouths out with fluoride treatment every morning.
And I didn't just go off that and believe that.
I remembered going to Margaret Sanger Elementary School in kindergarten in Dallas, Texas, named after the eugenicist.
And I remember every month having to wash our mouths out with fluoride and always feeling sick and putting my head down on the, and then falling down in the bathroom.
The chemical weapon hitting me, hitting me hard.
The other kids.
I mean, I remember not liking it.
When they'd bring it out, I would... I would... And of course, no one had told me.
No one knew.
It was in little boxes when they gave you the liquid or the pills.
They made it fun.
There were little red pills, too.
With a little cartoon strip.
But I remember just a few months into it, getting really upset and being afraid.
Because I didn't like the pain.
And there's no doubting this.
So it reminded me.
See, there's so much, so much evil, so much institutionalized evil that you can't even keep track of it.
You can't even be aware of it all.
There's just too much.
So I see this message board comment, or this story comment, people posting in the articles, it's kind of like a message board is what people are using it for.
It's really popular.
And so I googled School Fluoride Program and every school in the country that's government run is doing it.
And now it's a daily operation.
Now, when we get back, I'm going to tell you about this.
Now, I want you to understand, depending on the school program, it is .5 or .3 or .2.
One part per million causes 20 point IQ reductions.
This is parts
Was it parts per hundred or parts per thousand?
I mean, this is devastator!
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Alright, Dad.
Let me get this straight.
Uncivil Liberties takes place in the future, right?
Like Star Wars?
Yeah, that's right.
Slightly in the future.
Wait a second.
I thought Star Wars took place a long, long time ago.
Alright, Einstein.
But it is kind of like Star Wars anyway.
Just like Star Wars, there's an evil empire and some people have started an armed rebellion to fight the evil empire.
Okay, so don't tell me, the government's the bad guys again?
Yep, that's right.
Oh, so your character's like Luke Skywalker?
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Don't want no shackles Don't want no shackles on me Don't want no shackles Don't want no shackles on me I sat down with Big Brother Don't like those RFIDs
Got the blues about my freedom.
Got the blues about tyranny.
I got the blues about my freedom.
Got the blues about tyranny.
I sat down with Big Brother and the National ID.
Don't want a chip in my wallet.
Chip in my car.
And if I want to travel, it's nobody's business how far.
Don't want no shackles.
Don't want no shackles on me.
I say shame on Big Brother.
Always tracking and tracing me.
Don't want a chip in my mother, a chip in my wife, a chip in my babies.
Stay out of our life, don't want no shackles.
Don't want no shackles on me.
I said down with Big Brother, no more slavery.
But we talk about being tracked, being tagged, being face scanned, our cars being scanned, our cell phones tracking us.
What about fluoride?
Let me just read this to you.
This is out of New York, the state of New York.
School fluoride program ensuring a lasting smile.
Now, the American Dental Association, after all these lawsuits, had to admit that fluoride actually rots your teeth from the inside out.
Dental fluorosis.
It causes bone fractures.
The National Kidney Association admits it.
Nothing like it.
Attacking the kidneys.
It attacks all the other glands associated with diabetes, cancer.
It's just unbelievable.
And they've known this for over a hundred years.
The Nazis used it in death camps at about three parts per million.
School fluoride program ensuring a lasting smile.
The self-applied fluoride in education rinsing program called SAFER.
Is a preventative service that has been successfully implemented in many New York school districts for more than 20 years.
Folks, I am 34 years old.
This was going on when I was 5 in Dallas.
Participating children ages 6 and older use 10 milliliters or 5 milliliters of 0.2 sodium fluoride solution to rinse for one minute in the classroom.
Participation by children too young to rinse and are in Head Start programs or kindergarten, chew a daily fluoride tablet or use daily fluoride drops for the prevention of tooth decay.
As if they're not getting enough in the water and their toothpaste, even if you believe the official story.
Now, I meant to do the math during the break.
God help us.
What is
John, you got a calculator?
What do you call 0.2?
I found other programs that are 0.5, 0.3.
I'm going to read those.
Because if it was, you know, 1%, it would be 1%, but it's 0.2.
I know that's millions of times higher than one part per million that the government recommends for our teeth health, which is incredible.
20 point, on average, major studies, IQ reduction.
Comparing communities right next to each other.
Those that fluoridate, those that don't.
What is the... That's two parts per thousand, isn't it?
So we're talking two parts per thousand sodium fluoride solution versus one part per million, and it's daily!
Now, no one ever told me fluoride, sodium fluoride, was bad.
No one ever told me that it isn't just sodium fluoride, that by federal law and state law, it's the toxic waste with hundreds of chemicals from fertilizer, manufacturing, and aluminum purification.
And the nuclear weapons uranium purification program.
That's when it first started in the fifties.
Because they had big spills in Tennessee and everywhere else that were killing people and causing problems.
They said, oh, we don't have to store it.
It's not a toxic waste.
We're going to put it in the water, but diluted.
It's a valuable nutrient.
Which is true.
You need very small levels of calcium fluoride for your body.
It's like you need very small amounts of arsenic and cyanide.
And it is in plants and vegetables, and it is in the air, and it is in the dirt.
What is it?
Parts per billion?
You can go pull the studies up.
I've read so many, they all kind of blur together.
The program targets children who do not have access to community water fluoridation, who do not have access to dental care, who live in rural areas, and who live below the poverty level.
Perfect eugenics.
See, that's their... Now, now, now.
I was in Dallas.
We had a lower middle class elementary school.
That's why my parents moved to Rockwall, so I could go to better government schools.
But it was lower middle class, and oh, it was about half black kids.
And you bet, I looked into it, it targets poor children.
The government had given two and five parts per thousand fluoride to the lily white.
They just get their one to two parts per million, which gives you a good head thumpin' as well.
But I remember
They'd come out with those red pills, they'd come out with those washes, and man, they'd tell me, chew one of those, and man, headache, laying back in the chair, I wouldn't know who I was for two days.
And then I remember being about ten years old, having my dad clean my teeth twice a year, and he's a good guy, he's not evil, he believes in the system, he believes in the Dental Association, he's not a bad guy, so he thinks they wouldn't lie, now he knows the truth and is all freaked out and has researched it, as a lot of other dentists, that top dentist, have gone public now.
Just type in, dentist against fluoride.
I mean, they made the Dental Association say, don't do it for children.
It's poisonous.
And I remember going in, having to clean my teeth, and he'd say, okay, come over here to the sink, here's a fluoride treatment.
I remember taking a shot of that, gargling it, spitting it out, and man, I'd get in the car, and again, this wasn't placebo, because my whole life, I would never really put two and two together.
When I was real little, I would kind of
Associated with it, but later I just wasn't thinking about it, and I'd take it and get a headache and drive home in the car.
My dad remembers it.
Just lay back and fall asleep with a horrible headache.
I remember my whole life brushing my teeth and getting a headache right after it.
Getting a stomachache.
It says on the back, if you swallow a pea-sized, call poison control.
Look at your toothpaste!
Now... There are not hundreds, there are thousands of government studies.
Going back to the 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, right through to now, admitting, admitting that it eats holes in your brain, it destroys your bones, it calcifies your arteries and all of your major glands and just savages the delicate flesh tissues of the filters in the kidneys, savages the liver.
It is a savage chemical attack
Pulitzer Prize winning book on World War II, documents of Nuremberg trials, that they put fluoride in the water to make the slaves docile.
So you don't want a chip in your body, a chip in your wife, I agree.
But how about the fluoride?
Because even if you don't drink the fluoridated water, when you drink that coffee from the store, you drink that tea, you're getting it.
When you're breathing the hot fumes, you get even more than from drinking it.
Very deadly.
The chlorine alone, massive cancers, thousands of studies, the chlorine you're drinking, the breakdown products of chlorine are even worse.
School districts or public health professionals interested in the program should contact the department's Bureau of Dental Health to determine if they qualify.
For more information, contact Elizabeth Whitman, RN, Public Health Program Nurse, Bureau of Dental Health, and then it's got our phone number.
In New York.
Now that's the first one that pops up when you type in School Fluoride Program.
Next is Colorado, and then Texas, and then Florida.
Colorado School Fluoride Mouth Rinse Program.
Colorado, welcome to, and then it goes into how it is wonderful for the children.
And I remember them showing us little films, too.
They'd bring in the... You get real happy when they roll in the film, and they'd put the film reel on, and show you a film about your teeth, and a little happy cartoon character that drinks fluoride, and... And then, man, it was like drinking a half gallon of Jack Daniels.
When you were a little baby.
When you were five years old.
Went into there, the... Imagine how smart I'd be.
Imagine how smart you'd be.
If they hadn't throttled our little brains.
You know, they got all these studies about how blacks' test scores are so bad.
Well, part of it, you know, people always joked about the lead paint chips, but those inner cities, boy, down the Mexicans and blacks and poor whites' throats, they just dump these pills and bubblegum and drinks and oh, it's so good.
Two parts per thousand.
Instead of one part per million.
No debating!
That that is absolute poisoning.
Now, I'm sure this nurse means well that I mentioned on the program.
She believes the system's good.
Probably a nice person.
Colorado School Fluoride Mouth Rinse Program.
Another segment of the fluoride program is the School Mouth Rinse Program.
The purpose of the School Fluoride Mouth Rinse Program is to provide a safe and effective preventative method for reducing dental decay.
Well, not as effective as the Community Water Fluoridation Program, and where communities are too small or do not have access to optimal levels of fluoride in community water.
These, by the way, I've looked it up, they're doing this where they fluoridate.
This is just pure bull.
The School Fluoride Mouth Rinse Program helps prevent tooth decay in grade school children, grades 1 to 6, right during that key brain growth period.
For roughly the same cost per person in the community as for the CWEP, but only reaching approximately one quarter of the population.
Oh, it only gets one quarter.
Children rinse once a week with one minute in the classroom, and then spit out the fluoride, which is absorbed into the glands that are right underneath the tongue, I would add.
That's where you're supposed to take a lot of medicines, folks.
Some of the most absorbent... I mean, some of the levels that absorb like nothing else under there.
The benefit to teeth from fluoride rinse program is topical.
The fluoride solution strengthens the outer layer of tooth enamel.
That's pure bull.
You absorb it.
And the fluoride is not swallowed.
Absolute bull.
A large portion of it's swallowed.
Because you spit out about 90% of it, but the rest of it coats the mouth.
It's like a syrup.
Ugh!
It sends chills up my spine.
Other examples of topical applied fluoride are toothpaste fluoride treatments in the dental office.
And it goes into how it is three parts per thousand.
It says statewide there are 26 elementary school programs in Colorado in school districts serving the entire district.
So 26 districts are doing this in Colorado.
You can just go on and on for hours.
I spent about two hours on this last night.
So, there you have it.
This is the equivalent of bashing your child's head into concrete every day.
Or putting them in the ring with a professional boxer.
You know why the professional boxers, when they're 40 years old, can't talk?
Because they're brain damaged, ladies and gentlemen.
You wonder why most Americans can't complete sentences?
Have you talked to them?
They're fluoride heads.
That alone.
And now tens of thousands of girls at age three go into puberty and begin having menstrual cycles, the girls.
And what do they do?
They go, oh, we've got a hormone that we use to block that hormone that's in your milk and cheeses.
And then the boys are super feminine and their sexual organs do not develop, their male ovaries or testicles do not drop, and that's now
Just all over the country, percentages are skyrocketing of men that are not basically men.
They don't have testosterone.
They have estrogen, which then affects the same brain structures in the brain tissues, and they're attracted to men.
See, it's all smell that then triggers things in the brain.
So the area of the brain that is associated with the more female outlook
It's a complex issue, but I've read what the scientists have said.
Basically, then men smell other men.
You're not supposed to smell testosterone and like it.
And you're supposed to smell the estrogen and progesterone and the other hormones of women and get excited.
But you're not.
You see men now because you've been drinking all this milk filled with
The
The tissues that have higher hormonal fluxes are the tissues, in almost every case, that get the cancers.
Because hormones age the cells, cause more DNA breaks, it gets more complex than that, but I'm digressing off into it.
They admit, though, that there's a lot of studies showing that it's the hormones causing women's breasts to basically rot off and our precious women dying.
And I'm sorry to use terms like that for you, but if it'll get you to stop drinking all these hormones, and it'll get you to get your daughters and your sons off this stuff, then I'll talk about it.
See, the fluoride's only one part of it.
Now, I don't know if they put these hormones in the milk on purpose to do this to us.
Though it admittedly is frying our reproductive systems, which they want from a eugenics perspective.
But I know they put the fluoride in there to hurt us.
And I'm mad about it.
And I'm sick of the government, with all its PSAs on radio, TV, and billboards and newspapers, telling me how much you love me.
The average jackass down at the police station probably thinks they're doing it for the betterment.
And the average jackass at the health department and the average nurse thinks that.
But I'll assure you, the people running all this, and the social planners that designed all this, are some cold-blooded people!
And they're waging war on every single one of us.
Now, I know we got police listening.
Go look up toxic fluoridation.
Toothpaste, the average brand, is around 2%.
Now you swallow a pea-size of that, they say go to the hospital.
They're making kids chew tablets that have that much in it every week in these schools.
Bill, you go read the studies where there is no debate that 2% causes massive brain damage.
It's documented that one part per million causes massive brain damage.
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Okay, we've got so many guests that we stacked them up today like cordwood.
We've got Dr. Louis Sancho, physicist.
We're also going to have his colleague on, who was on Monday, Walter L. Wagner, about the heavy superconducting supercollider and the dangerous particles that the equations show it can
And in some cases has made, have produced tiny black holes and things of that nature.
That's coming up in about five minutes.
Doing a part two on this early because these type of super technologies are so important.
Then we've got Robert Galen Ross, who I set up weeks ago in studio.
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In plain view!
I mean, they're just doing it right out in the open with two parts per thousand, some cases even higher, instead of one part per million with the gum and the rest of it.
Jesse Ventura, three big articles.
We want the neocons to take the bait.
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Endless war.
She's taken the bait and posted at hot air the Jesse Ventura incredible interview yesterday for an hour and 20 minutes.
Expanding on that, expanding out on that,
Others are starting to pick up on it.
You want to target neocons and send them this story.
Former Governor Jesse Ventura, WTC collapsed, a controlled demolition.
We want them to take the bait because in their hubris, they'll attack Governor Ventura just like they attacked
Uh, Willie Nelson and others and then people will hear about this and it will spread the word and then they'll go look into it.
The majority of Americans know it was an inside job.
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Governor Ventura
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Top three stories.
Former Governor Jesse Ventura, WTC collapse, a controlled demolition.
Under that, Mockingbird Publishers turned down bestseller Jesse Ventura book.
Very important story by Curt Nemo.
And another one, Jesse Ventura warns of Obama assassination attempt.
Need to add into the story a link to the other article so when they go read that, they see it.
Now listen, this is a big win in the Info War.
Think of the courage it took for Ventura to come on and apologize and say he was wrong for not looking into it earlier and that it's an inside job.
A controlled demolition.
This is big.
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Alright, we've got Professor Louis Sancho coming up in the next segment.
Also, Walter L. Wagner, another physicist.
We did Part 1 Monday.
For another 30 minutes, we're going to talk about this heavy superconducting supercollider.
I got a bunch of them.
The dangerous particles they can create.
This is much more powerful, potentially, than, you know, the most powerful hydrogen bomb that we're talking about.
And the chain reactions it can create are devastating to all life on Earth.
That dovetails with another headline here.
We have already created human-animal embryos already, say British team.
They're talking about legalizing human-animal hybrids.
In England, and they said, well, what's the debate about?
We did this ten years ago.
As we told you!
This has been on the side of research for a long time.
Another thing that's very, very dangerous, not just of the abomination of doing this to humanity, and you, and, and, and, and, you know, do these things have rights?
What are they?
It's when you start crossing animals and humans, it, it unlocks a lot of super viruses, bacteria.
This has already happened.
We've had scientists on discussing that, geneticists, genetic engineers,
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In fact, it happens every time.
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It's been going on.
I remember the Washington Post five years ago admitted that
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During embryonic development, they say, if you really want to believe that.
So the genetic engineering is another chain reaction crisis we face, and it's why a lot of top scientists don't think we'll become a type 1 civilization.
That means a civilization that survives and gets off-world.
Okay, we're about to break and come back and join some stations.
I want to introduce Professor Louis Sancho first.
And sir, you've got such a lengthy bio.
I thought it would be better if you just tell us about yourself and some of your background, what you think is most important.
Well, it's most important, the issue.
My background, I'm a scientist.
I'm a systems scientist.
I give international conferences on time theory and related subjects.
But really what I would like to talk is about the Collider, because I see myself just as a concerned citizen in a thing that everybody can truly understand, because it's something that goes against our lives, and that's something that everybody... Now, you are a physicist who specializes in integrating it into computer technologies, is that correct?
No, I'm a systems scientist.
Basically, systems science is merging.
No, it's not computer science.
It's, you know, it's basically we have two big science, which is biology and physics.
So after the death of Einstein... Okay, I was just trying to get that straight, as I saw in your bio, computers and engineering, so I... No, that was incorrect.
Okay, thank you so much for coming on with us.
We're about to break and we have your colleague Walter L. Wagner who is a physicist to get into that and of course you said that that's your specialty working with merging the physics with the biology and we'll come back and get in.
To when you first got concerned about the superconducting super colliders, the cyclotrons, and now this new collider that is the biggest and most powerful in the world.
Why you think it's dangerous?
Major British papers and Australian papers have picked up on this.
Some US television has picked up on it, so that's encouraging, because I've been concerned with this for more than 15 years, just from the position of a novice.
We'll be right back with Professor Louis Sancho and Walter L. Wagner.
Stay with us.
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I'm very thankful today that Professor Louis Sancho and Walter L. Wagner
Join us.
He's a physicist, of course, and worked in a lot of other fields.
Walter L. Wagner and Luis Sanchez works in the field of emerging biology with physics.
And they both have filed a lawsuit to try to block the activation and usage of the largest and most powerful collider ever built over in Europe.
But there are a lot of these
Mr. Sancho and Mr. Wagner, again, both of you, thank you for joining me.
You're both on air right now.
You both got the floor.
Go ahead and interact, because we had Mr. Wagner on a few days ago.
Let's go to Mr. Sancho first.
Mr. Sancho, when did you get concerned about this, and what are the fundamental dangers that the equations show that these colliders could cause, and why are you even more concerned about this particular collider?
Well, it has been an incremental concern because in the past decade, at the same time they were building this collider, we have explored the universe with better telescopes and so we have found the reasons of concern because we know much better today how neutron stars and black holes are formed.
And the dangers of making a big bang are precisely those two dangers.
We know now that it's very easy to replicate and start a reaction that converts normal matter, our matter, into the matter of a neutron star or a black hole.
So, my concern has been growing, and at a certain point, I enter in contact with CERN and try to find out what kind of security measures they have, and since they have none, they basically will do the experiment, replicate the Big Bang, and whatever happens, it will happen.
They just want to do the Big Bang, and then reset.
Now, both of you have very good credentials.
Mr. Wagner, Dr. Wagner, discovered a famous particle.
In fact, Mr. Wagner predicted that they could end up making black holes in these, and the response of the establishment was, yes, and we're going to try to make a black hole to test and see what it'll do.
Now they claim they've made black holes, or things similar to them, in colliders.
And so that's even scarier that the things that Dr. Wagner and you have been talking about are now starting to happen.
Can you comment on that, Mr. Sancho?
Um, to rephrase the question, um... Perhaps Mr. Wagner can comment on that.
Well, yes, Alex, thank you.
They have been producing material at the RIC Collider, which is a slightly smaller collider than the LHC Collider that some people think might be a precursor to a dark matter.
Yeah, the Associated Press says they have created many black holes.
Is that a lie?
They're not the same kind of black hole that we are concerned about.
But they've recreated the phenomenon.
I mean, is that what they're saying?
No, that's a lie.
Never has been made a black hole on Earth.
That's an absolute lie.
Okay, well then what are they creating?
Right now they haven't precisely entered into that range of energies that creates the Big Bang.
So that's why the reason of this experiment.
They also say that they will
I think?
It's exactly the opposite of a cosmic ray.
A cosmic ray is a very light particle that moves very fast.
So, by reduction to absurdum, if A is the opposite of B, and what they are trying to do is heavy mass without movement, is the opposite of a cosmic ray, so I don't know how they can imagine that a cosmic ray is the same thing.
So basically, they are forgering lies, because they know, most people don't know the basics of science, and they believe the authority.
And by the way, you're not the only scientist.
I mean, there are hundreds.
I've been looking it up a lot last week.
I was already familiar with it, who have said that there can be very dangerous reactions, strangelets, other things.
You were talking about a neutron star.
That's the first time I've heard that brought up.
Can you tell people what that is?
Well, a neutron star has the core of a strange matter.
So the point here is that strange matter is like the next evolutive ladder in the power of matter.
We are the simplest matter on the universe.
And basically what might happen is the Einstein reaction, which is a name that comes from Kurt Vonnegut's Cat on the Cradle book, which basically means that because strange matter is more powerful than our matter,
When it appears and becomes stable, it catalyzes the transformation of our radiant matter into a neutron star.
The only part of our matter that might survive the reaction is iron, because it's the most stable energetic atom in the universe.
So what we believe today is that neutron stars have a core of strange matter on the surface of iron.
And the rest of the matter of this planet would disappear.
No, I haven't read that.
Well, you can just Google anti-matter weapons or anti-matter bombs and news articles will come up.
But this is much more dangerous because the question is that this is a self-reproductive process.
I mean, when you start this kind of reaction, it's continuous.
I mean, it keeps feeding.
An anti-matter explosion or a weapon, it's a localized weapon.
It won't affect the entire Earth.
Anti-matter and matter will create a big explosion.
This is much more dangerous because it's a self-sustained process.
Now, going back to flesh this out to be specific, you publish reports, put out papers, publish letters inside of publications warning people, and then they responded to you and said, yes, we're going to try to make black holes.
Can you flesh out the particulars of that story, Dr. Wagner?
Yes.
Early on, in the late 1990s and 2000s,
They were saying that it's impossible to make micro black holes.
And shortly afterwards, within a couple of years, some theorists were coming out and saying, well, this is something actually that's well within the realm of reason that micro black holes can be formed.
And at that point, Ferrer took the position that, well, we're going to try to make these micro black holes because it'll be interesting physics.
But we're not worried, they claim, because we know that they're going to evaporate very rapidly.
Because of this theory that Professor Hawking came up with, that micro black holes can evaporate.
Well, that theory has never been shown to be true anywhere.
Nobody has ever seen Hawking radiation.
No one has ever seen a micro black hole evaporate.
No one has ever seen a large black hole evaporate.
They always get larger.
And so it's a theory that, well, maybe it's correct.
I don't know.
There are a lot of people who've cast a lot of doubt, a lot of theorists who've cast doubt on the validity of this Hawking radiation theory.
And yet that is what has been relied on in the previous safety studies that the CERN did as to why it would be safe to make micro black holes.
It just, you know, the question boils down to, is it a good idea to make a
May I say something?
This is an ethic question.
I mean, there is no right for a group of physicists to try to prove a theory which is disputed.
With the risk of life, not to the entire mankind, to a single human being.
So we have a school, we have a school of physicists who happen to be in control of the research laboratories and the mega-cyclotrons with this turbo-type technology and science, this hyper-dangerous science, and they believe that their math is right and that it's not a danger, and they just want to prove some theory when Hawking has, Stephen Hawking has admitted many times that he's been wrong about other theories.
And he has also admitted that this theory is just a probability in his books, and I could quote them.
So, we know that it's a probability.
Even the author of the theory doubts its hypothesis.
It implies various strange phenomena, like travel to the past of antiparticles.
It defies the second law of thermodynamics, which says that a hot object becomes colder, because he introduces the idea that
Antiparticles travel to the past in the black hole instead of getting colder like everything for example when you put iron Hot iron in water evaporates the water He said that the opposite happens that the black hole will get hotter and hotter and it will take Temperature from our world that will become colder and the black hole will evaporate.
This is I believe very difficult to prove probably nonsense
Well, talk about playing God or playing dice with our future.
The classic cliché is Russian roulette.
I mean, if the equations show there's any danger of this, they don't have a right to do it.
You're right.
But we see scientists who thought the hydrogen bomb might set the atmosphere on fire, and they still did it.
What type of people are these?
Go ahead, Dr. Wagner.
Nuclear weapons testing that was done during an era in which it was stated that basically it was better to be dead than to be red.
That is, it's better to do this test even if it kills us, because we would rather do that than become communists.
And so there was an underlying philosophy girding that research.
Is it present now?
Plus, the risk is much greater.
Back then, they were able to actually calculate the risk, and it was very, very low.
It was like 1 in 50,000.
So they said, well, this is a risk that we think is worth taking.
Now, it's not possible to calculate that risk.
It's somewhere between 0 and 100%.
And standard statistics says you set it at 50% under those conditions when you don't have any other information.
So we're looking at that kind of a risk.
With no benefit.
Or extremely small benefit.
It certainly benefits the people who are doing the work.
They get nice salaries, and they live in comfortable houses.
Gentlemen, stay there!
Professors D'Angelo, Dr. Wagner, final segment.
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My last question to both of you, and you can cover whatever you think is most important in the few minutes we've got left, about five minutes, Dr. Wagner and Professor Sancho,
Can you put any probability or any number on, you know, scores of cyclotrons and super colliders doing these tests on what the probability is of some type of disaster?
Or is it something you can't quantify?
Yes, you can quantify in the sense that since we have opposite theories, for instance, this relativity with his standard physics and his arrow of time from past to future versus Hawking's hypothesis that time travels to the past, so instead of growing, the baby black hole as a very baby entity will evaporate, which is like saying that a child, newborn, instead of growing faster, will enter the womb of the mother,
Well, even if we think that this might be possible, we can easily give 50% to theories which are unknown, one of them.
So, if you have two events, this one and the conversion of the ion in a neutron star, which depends on a parameter of stability of matter that, again, standard physics considers it will be rich,
Even if we doubt of standard physics, which is Einstein, not Hawking, and is the stability of matter, strange matter, we can give 50% each of those two events, because those are the events that the CERN will reproduce there.
So you just add two 50% events, that's 75%.
I would like to stress, though, that
The same experiments, and this is a trend in the history of physics, can be carried out with telescopes observing the universe without any danger to us.
And exactly now the Americans are working in a satellite called GLAST, which will try to find if black holes evaporate.
So what we are really asking
That's right, this gigantic universe around us is the real laboratory instead of
Exactly.
Messing with these tectonic, titan-like forces right here on our tiny rock.
Exactly.
So we basically just want to receive the results of the blast and see if they evaporate or if they don't evaporate.
And depending on the shape,
Now to be clear, Professor Sancho and Dr. Wagner, they're admitting that there is some chance that bad things could happen.
But they never explain their probabilities.
They started with the 3 millionth probability, which they merely take of the observation you made about the hydrogen bomb in the Second World War.
And when you ask how to calculate your probabilities, they don't give you any explanation.
So they just take out of the hat, like a rabbit, whatever they think.
But they have to inform the human people who are paying with taxpayer money.
I agree.
In closing, tell folks about your legal defense fund, Dr. Wagner.
Yes, Alex, we have a website for people who are interested and would like to help on this, LHCDefense, that's Large Hadron Collider, LHCDefense.org.
And I wanted to add, it's not just Lewis and I who have filed this lawsuit, we have five other professionals who have also joined in on this lawsuit.
One is a professor of science and psychology, another one is a professor of computer science and robotics, engineering, with many years of experience with a
And you told me countless people have come to you and said they support you, but they don't want to be blackballed.
A lot of people.
I just received an email today from a
Well, I mean, remember what smashing atoms together does, folks.
It gives you hydrogen and atomic bombs.
This is much more advanced.
Gentlemen, I want to get you back on as this unfolds.
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Thank you, Alex.
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She talked about how LBJ bragged about killing Kennedy.
Now Kennedy's lawyers come out and said he bragged about it.
Now we've interviewed E. Howard Hunt's son, St.
John Hunt.
I've even got the video.
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I'm going to get some of it on YouTube before for our safety.
In fact, I've been meaning to do that.
Coming out and admitting it.
And then now we had some of the CIA hitmen from JFK and RFK bragging to their lawyers about how they killed Kennedy.
Uh, like Frank Morales.
That's now been on the BBC.
That aired last weekend.
And they brought out old film footage of the three CIA operatives there.
Their former, uh, partners and people saying, oh yeah, that's Frank.
That's this guy.
That's that guy.
And all three together.
Not just separately.
Hey, that looks just like him.
But all three together when they killed Bobby at the Ambassador Hotel.
But we're gonna get into Bobby later.
We've got Galen for an hour here in studio.
First, I want to get into what he's really
We're good to go.
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Huge breaking news.
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We're asking your help on getting that story out.
Not just that, he said that Barack Obama would be assassinated, or probably would be assassinated, if he truly looked like he was going to get in there, because he is anti-war.
Now, you can argue that and say he's got Zbigniew Brzezinski behind him and it's going to be staged.
These globalists have not showed a liking towards black folks, so we'll get Robert Galen Ross' take on that.
Robert Galen Ross, of course, was in military intelligence with the Army, with the NSA.
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Robert Galen Ross, thanks for being here.
Well, it's a pleasure to be with you, Alex.
You bet.
I always enjoy being with you, because you're well informed.
Well, I try to be.
There's so much going on in the world, it's just, information is exciting.
You've got the floor.
Tell us about the latest info, as all three of these assassinations pretty much become public knowledge, and it's pretty much tacitly admitted now that all three men, RFK, JFK, MLK, were killed by the New World Order, and then
Why they were killed, but you've got the floor break it down.
Okay on April the 4th 1968 Martin Luther King King was in Memphis to support the sanitation workers and a strike the sanitation workers were upset because
There was a rain out one day, and they sent all the black workers home, but left all the white workers there.
So they went on strike, and Martin Luther King came in there to support them.
He checked into the Holiday Inn that day, and one of his advisors said, well now, you really need to be effective.
You need to stay in a local black-owned hotel or motel.
King said, well, that's all right.
And what do you suggest?
He said, well, what about the Lorraine Motel at 450 Mulberry Avenue there in Memphis?
And so King said, that's fine with me.
So that's where they went.
And then after he checked in, he was put in a room on the first floor.
But short after that, one of his advisors came in and said, we really need to move you up to the second floor.
So they moved him up to the second floor, and not long after he was in that room, he was standing out on the balcony talking to someone down on the ground, and a shot rang out, and he fell to his death.
Now, we'll fast forward a little bit.
The convicted killer of Martin Luther King was a fellow named James Earl Ray.
Ray and his father and his brother and several other of his relatives were just habitual criminals.
In fact, his father, Jerry William Ray, was in the Oregon prison and escaped, and they knew where he was but didn't bother to go looking for him.
But I interviewed James Earl Ray in the Nashville
prison hospital about ten days before he died.
He died of cancer of the liver and I was up there for a conference in Memphis and Jerry Ray, I asked him if he would arrange for an interview for me.
He said, sure, if you'll drive me to Nashville.
So I drove his brother Jerry all the way to Nashville.
I'm going for memory here, but weren't you the last person interviewing?
Last one to interview him before he died, yes.
But anyway, I had an opportunity for two hours to speak intimately with his brother, Jerry Ray, about the whole deal.
So when we got there, I did have an hour's interview with James Earl Ray.
I had one of the prison guards take a photograph of me with
Jerry and James.
I've got the photo right here, quite a photo.
But anyway, I asked James how come he confessed.
He said, well, they told me that, by the way, his attorney was a Percy Foreman from Houston.
And he said Percy told him that if he
Didn't confess to the murder, that they knew where his father was and they were going to pick him up and put him back in prison in solitary for the rest of his life.
And that there was a fellow named, he's actually an undercover FBI agent named Raoul, codename.
They were going to accuse his brother Jerry Ray of being Raoul and would put him in prison.
And that they would convict James for the murder and it would be executed.
But if he confessed, he would, the first foreman would say that he just spent the rest of his life in prison.
However, he said, if you will confess within two weeks, I'll insist on a retrial and I'll get you out of it.
So James did confess.
And Percy Foreman went back to Houston and James Earl Ray never saw him again.
And of course there's a whole story to how they set Ray up, how they got him there.
Yeah, this FBI undercover fellow named Raul had contacted James and told him to meet him in Memphis in front of Jim's Grill across from the Lorraine Motel.
And the purpose of the meeting was Raoul told James that he had a gun deal going down and wanted James to help him out in because he had some experience in that area and so James did meet him there in front of Jim's Grill and Raoul told James to go to a local gun shop and buy a rifle with a scope on it.
So he got in his car and drove over to the local gun shop, bought a
243 caliber rifle with a scope on it.
Brought it back and showed it to Raoul, and Raoul says, you idiot, it's the wrong caliber.
You take it back and exchange it for a .30-06.
Well, a 243 and a .30-06 are just as deadly at that range.
But the reason he had to change it was because the real shooter was firing a .30-06 rifle.
That's the reason that he had to exchange.
So he did exchange the rifle.
And you bet the .243 is deadly.
The late father of Woody Harrelson, Charles Harrelson, just died, what, last year in prison?
It was two years ago here in Texas for shooting a federal judge in San Antonio at 400 yards with a .243 in the throat.
So there's really no difference.
Yeah, here in Texas, with the size of the deer and the hogs, I usually hunt with a .243.
It's a nice flat shooting round.
It's in between.
A .223 and a .30 caliber round.
Not quite as much recoil also.
It's a nice little gun.
But it'll certainly kill somebody big time.
It's a high-energy round.
That's right.
But anyway, James checked into the flop house, which was above Jim's grill.
And there was a fellow named Jim Green that was hired by the FBI to kill Ray after the shooting was over.
So I also interviewed a lady, a black lady named Betty Space, who was Lloyd Jowers' waitress in Jim's Grill, and I interviewed her for about 30 minutes.
She wouldn't do it on camera, but she did tell me the facts.
She said that she was in front of the grill, and she heard a loud noise in the back, and she thought maybe the stove exploded or something like that.
She went back into the kitchen.
As she entered the kitchen, Lloyd Jowers came through the back door carrying a rifle with a scope on it.
He looked up and he says, Woman, get back up front and wait on the customer.
So she went back up front.
But I also interviewed a fellow in Death Row Prison at the the NSU unit about 12 miles north of Huntsville.
This fellow was named Willie Louis Eakins.
Now, a good friend of mine, John Billings, who was a private investigator in Memphis, I was at this convention I went to.
Billings asked me to spend the night with him, so I spent three days with he and his family in their home, and so we had a lot of chance to visit
And during the visit, he said, this fellow that no one has ever interviewed.
And so you might see if you can run him down and he may have something for you.
So I said, well, who is it?
And he said, his name is Willie Akins, and I think he's in prison somewhere in Texas.
So when I got back home, I started doing some research and I located him in this
Death Row Prison there in Walker County, and got permission from the authorities there in Hustle to interview him.
In fact, I interviewed him four times there in the prison interview area.
But each time, he wanted to talk about me getting him out of prison.
And I said, well, I'm here to talk about the killing of Martin Luther King.
And he said, well,
I won't do that on camera.
And I said, well, I don't really think you know anything about it.
So he said, just to prove it to you, and he loaded it all on me.
He said that he and Jowers got drunk one night.
And right after, the day after King was killed, Willie Akins came into Memphis and got a job as a cab driver for Lloyd Jowers.
They became close friends.
And in fact, they teamed up as hitmen in the Memphis area.
The two of them had killed a number of people in the Memphis area together.
But one night they got drunk and Jowers started bragging about being the killer of Martin Luther King, too, Willie Eakins.
In fact, he told him all the details and then he told him where the rifle was.
So, Willie told me all of this, and I said, well, will you do it on camera?
He said, no, you get me out of prison, I'll do it on camera.
In fact, I'll show you where the rifle is.
You get me out of prison.
Well, there's no way I could get him out of prison because he was in there for possession of a kilo of cocaine and was found guilty before a jury and was given 30 years in prison, and there's no way I could get him out.
But anyway,
After four interviews, he still wouldn't do it on camera, but a strange thing happened in the last interview.
I left my interview notes there in the interview room.
I just overlooked it and left them there.
When I got back home, I got looking for them, and I remembered they were there on the shelf.
It wasn't long after that that Willie was killed in the prison.
How was he killed in prison?
Well, they will never tell you the truth because they don't... How did they say he died?
Natural causes.
Now, we've gotten... I mean, it's pretty much mainstream news now that the people that supposedly killed Martin Luther King aren't the folks that killed Martin Luther King.
But why did the same crew that wanted both the Kennedys dead
One, Martin Luther King died.
I mean, they killed King just a few months before they killed Bobby.
Well, King, first of all, he was stirring up the South, demanding civil rights for the blacks.
And that got them all upset, and they were marching in the streets.
And there was danger that all this commotion would ruin Johnson's chances of becoming next president.
Also, again, it's all about Johnson and it's all about Nixon.
It's all about the same players.
That's right.
The same people were involved in the JFK, RFK, and MLK killings.
And J. Edgar Hoover and Johnson were the leaders of the pack.
We'll stay there, we've got a break.
Robert Gallin Ross, investigative journalist, reporter, worked in intelligence in the military, lived all over the world in petroleum geology as an engineer, as a consultant.
We're going to come back, and I want to get into Bobby then, and any other areas of the Martin Luther King murder as well that you'd like to get into.
We'll be right back.
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I want to get his take on what the banking system is doing right now.
We'll get into the next hour, also talk about Bobby Kennedy and those big revelations, just as the BBC comes right out and says our government killed him, and so does the three CIA operatives, commanders.
We'll be talking about that with Robert Galen Ross as well, but a few other key points on the MLK murder Yeah, there's Sam Donaldson was ABC's primetime live host and on April 22nd 1998 interviewed Lloyd Jowers on TV and gave him a polygraph test administered by one of the FBI's best polygraph people
And Jowers did flunk the polygraph.
And also on another ABC station 93, Lloyd Jowers was interviewed.
And on that interview, he said he was hired to kill Martin Luther King and was paid $125,000.
Uh, paid by Memphis produce merchant Frank Liberto.
Frank Liberto was head of the mafia in Memphis area, and he reported directly to Carlos Marcello in New Orleans.
And now, I also... Well, let's go back here.
Why did he suddenly go on television and admit all this?
I don't know.
I guess he just felt like he wanted to brag a little bit.
But he didn't go to prison.
They had their killer.
James Earl Ray was their killer.
And so there wasn't any danger of there ever being a retrial.
And so he could just prance around saying he did it and it was just fine?
Yeah.
And that's quite typical of that era.
Sure, continue.
Also, a dear friend of mine, you mentioned her earlier, Madeline Duncan Brown,
wrote a book about the JFK killing and in the book she included Xerox copies of four checks that were written on H.L.
Hunt's escrow account number 78.
to pay off the killers of Martin Luther King.
Now, that's the oil man out of Houston and Dallas, to be clear, for listeners, and not in relation to the head hitman commander, CIA black-op commander E. Howard Hunt, on the JFK op.
Please continue.
That's correct.
But one of the checks was for $25,000, another one for $75,000, one for $125,000.
That's the one that went to Boa Jowers.
And other than for $225,000, probably went to Carls Marcello.
Now, the names on checks that were made out to were redacted on copies that I have, but I know the fellow that has these cancel checks in his possession.
Now, people always get confused by this.
They say, now, is it the Mafia or the CIA?
Well, going back to World War II when it was OSS, they work with the Mafia in the country they're in as a go-between to have degrees of separation.
That's right, and in fact, we won't get heavily into JFK unless you want to, but there was a secret meeting the night before JFK was killed, and you had J. Edgar Hoover and his playmate,
I think so.
And the organized crime and the FBI worked together on a lot of deals.
In fact, in several congressional hearings, Jared Hoover said there was no such thing as Costa Nostra or a mafia.
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We're talking about the MLK assassination, but backing up now and getting into Robert Kennedy, because that 40th anniversary is coming up here in just a little while, in just a few months.
The BBC comes out, NBC comes out, ABC comes out.
Separately, it's saying the LA coroner said he was shot in the back, not in the front.
Fourteen bullets, not eight.
And separately, here's the three CIA operatives and their
You know, on film, and then they show their colleagues from the CIA going, yeah, that's them.
And why is the establishment having to admit this now, respectively, 44 years after JFK and 40 years after MLK and RFK, Robert Galen Ross?
That's difficult to understand why things are let out.
They're never let out by accident.
They're let out on purpose.
I seem to think it's a threat to everybody.
Well, the JFK killing was absolutely a threat.
They killed the President of the United States in front of thousands of people right on Daly Plaza, and they got away with it, and they knew they were going to get away with it.
So that was a direct threat at that time.
Yeah, they could have poisoned him.
They could have done it in the middle of the night.
Well, they chose to even have the police see the shooters and right up on the hill and just hundreds of witnesses saying the shots came from there.
And they just said, no, it didn't.
That's right.
But the CIA had conducted a lot of experiments on how to kill people without leaving evidence.
So you're right.
They could put it in his food.
They could put it in anything and killed him in private somewhere.
But they didn't want to do that.
They wanted to do it before the world, and just to show that they could do it and get away with it, so leave them alone.
It was a massive exercise of power, wasn't it?
Exactly.
Perfectly.
I believe 9-11 is the same.
They know.
They're not stupid.
They did war games.
They tested it.
They had done other false flag events.
They knew that we had exposed them on Oklahoma City, and that's now come out that it was an inside job.
It's basically admitted.
It's even been in the major papers, like the Salt Lake City paper.
The Daily Oklahoman that it's come out that it was a government op, basically.
But with 9-11, it's so ridiculous as they blow Building 7 up in front of everybody.
You're an engineer.
I mean, your take on that?
Well, Building 7 was absolutely a controlled demolition.
I mean, you can go on the internet and you find lots of examples of buildings being dropped in their tracks.
And they look exactly the way Building 7 dropped.
But the reason they do this is
They knew that they'd get away with JFK killing, and they did it in the open.
And they do it for reasons.
They did 9-1-1 for a reason.
They wanted an excuse to attack Afghanistan and Iraq, primarily Iraq.
And turn us into a police state.
Well, and lots of other things.
They've taken away our rights.
If you want to, we can get into that for a deeper discussion.
Why are they so arrogant?
I mean, if they were smart, they wouldn't be so arrogant and just flaunted, but I guess if you got the power, just flaunt it.
Well, fear is a major motivator.
If you take away the jobs of the American people, drive their wages down, bankrupt them, take away their homes, then they'll do nothing but worry about how they're going to get the next place to sleep.
Something to eat and how to protect their families.
And they don't care what the big boys do.
If they just leave them alone, they just need to survive.
That's essentially what they're after.
No, that's really it.
You're right.
It's economic warfare.
It's exactly.
It's absolute warfare by the international banking cabal.
Well, let's talk about them and Bobby first and then what the bankers are doing right now with the Federal Reserve and what's happening with the economy.
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And I want to talk some about these books before you leave us in the next 20-something minutes, Robert Galen Ross.
But getting into Bobby, I mean, the coroner at the time stood up and said he was shot in the back, different caliber, 14 shots, told to shut up.
And we talked about why is the media talking about it now?
Well, if you look at the polls, 90% believe they killed MLK, JFK, same thing with Bobby.
And so, I think they just are losing more of their credibility by continuing to call us all conspiracy theorists.
I think that's part of it, and also it's 40 years ago, but I think there's a certain degree of, also, who cares, so what?
Let them know we're a bunch of killers.
But why did they want Bobby dead?
And then talk about some of the points you think are most important about the murder of Bobby Kennedy.
Actually, it was 17 shots instead of 14.
Sirhan Sirhan had a 8 caliber .22
Well, according to the acoustics guy we had on the day, it was 14, but he said some were over each other, so 14 sounds.
He said it could have been more.
Well, in my book, I account for every bullet, where it went and where it hit, and the source.
But that day, Bobby was there at a rally in the Ambassador Hotel.
And his next event was a fundraiser, and the quickest way and safest way to get there is to go through the pantry.
And so there were probably 50 or so people there in the pantry, and Carl Euchre was the maitre d' of the hotel, and he was head bobby by the hand, trying to pull him through the crowd.
And as he reached the steam tables,
He felt someone try to come around the side of him, and he thought somebody was just trying to shake Bobby's hand.
But all of a sudden, Sirhan appeared with his eight-shot .22 caliber pistol and started shooting.
Well, Rafer Johnson and Roosevelt Greer were Bobby's unofficial guards.
They were friends, and Bobby didn't ever have guards around him, but they felt that they should be there to try to protect him.
But Greer grabbed Sirhan's hand and started beating it against the steam table.
But Sirhan fired all eight shots.
In the book, I account for every shot.
Four of them hit people, but none of his shots hit Bobby.
And then you've got Bobby's clothes.
Huge blast points from a high caliber handgun right in the back of the head.
No, it was also a .22.
I guess there's differences between the forensics.
Thomas Noguchi was the coroner.
And in my book, I have a certified copy of his coroner's report.
But both Sirhan Sirhan and the killer were under CIA mind control.
Wasn't Caesar, he was working at a U2 base?
No, he worked for one of the
Uh, aircraft companies there in L.A.
and he moonlighted at the Ace Security Service.
Uh, in this particular case, he was there for crowd control in a hotel.
Yeah.
But, uh, the reason I say he was also under CIA mind control, he fired nine shots, holstered his pistol, and casually melted into the crowd.
A killer that knows what he's doing won't do that.
He would run, break and run, and try to get through the crowd, but
Uh, with all this noise and... Unless he knew that he was going to be protected in the mind-controlled Patsy Serhan.
Now, there's no doubt about Serhan.
Uh, you know, you've got this mental case with the woman giving him a drink of the amnesiac, and then most of his shots are, you know, pinned down, shot into the wall, and shot into other places.
And then, uh, you know, magically, uh, you know, they're saying there's way more shots than his gun could have fired.
Uh, and then now you have the BBC analyzing the film footage and photos with all these CIA, you know, bosses.
I mean, all Southeast Asian operatives wandering around in there.
Well, the coroner's report says that four bullets hit Bobby.
One of them just went through the shoulder pad of his right jacket of the shoulder.
It didn't break the skin.
The next shot was under his right arm, under the armpit, came out his throat.
The next shot was about four inches below his shoulder level and about the center of his back.
And the last shot was an inch behind his right ear.
And the muzzle of the gun was an inch from his head.
Now, all the people in that room that testified, no one said that Sirhan got closer than three feet from Bobby and was always in front of him.
And the coroner's report shows the trajectory of each shot.
They were all from down below, down low, in an upward direction.
And the shots that I counted for, ones that didn't hit Bobby, most of them went into the ceiling.
Now the amazing cover-up is then you have the coroner, highly respected, and we had the head of the U.S.
Pathologists Association on earlier this week who was saying all basically the same things.
You're saying, and he went and looked at it at the time when he was a leading pathologist even then, in 1968, and said it was one of the best, you know, write-ups he'd ever seen, autopsies, but then the police just said, nope, the coroner's bad, and we're not going to listen to him.
I mean, talk about a cover-up.
Well, the LAPD had tried, right after the killing, tried to get Noguchi
I think so.
Look at the CARS report.
It's certified.
Well, it's like the 79th Congressional Report saying that it was a conspiracy to kill JFK.
Right.
But then the average person doesn't know that the coroner says that it was somebody else.
The Congress says JFK was killed by somebody else.
It was a conspiracy.
And they have all the acoustic evidence.
I mean, but the public doesn't know that, I guess.
Well, I guess they do now, but they didn't back then.
Well, there will never be a retrial or there will never be an official hearing in any of these three killings.
Because they don't want the evidence to come out, because everybody will be embarrassed from everywhere, and the people might just get up in arms and head to Washington and say, this is enough, we're fed up.
Why did the shadow government want Bobby dead?
We know that his brother signed the executive order abolishing the Federal Reserve, and we know that's what really got him killed, or you can differ if you don't agree with that.
Bobby had talked about how he was going to open an investigation into his brother's death once he was president.
Is that why they killed him?
That's exactly right.
In fact, JFK was killed for the same reason Lincoln was.
Lincoln created money, the Greenbacks, and JFK signed the Executive Order 1110 on June 4th, 1963.
They issued 4.9 billion dollars worth of silver certificates redeemable in silver at any federal bank.
Weren't those reissued Lincoln Greenbacks?
No, they were just silver certificates.
I just know they're called the Lincoln Greenback 5.
You seen those 5's that say U.S.
Note with a red stamp on them?
I've got a couple of $1 bills, but I hadn't really noticed the details on them.
Because I always look into that.
I mean, was it because I saw the silver certificate issuance.
But he also issued, you can look at it, it's 1963, those $5 bills.
They're about $20 now, they're collector's items.
I'm convinced if JFK had lived, he would have abolished the Federal Reserve, he would have abolished the CIA.
He said he was, yeah.
And he would have pulled the military out of Vietnam, he would have opened diplomatic relations with Cuba.
Had a better relationship with Russia?
All these things would have happened if he'd just lived.
Well, here's the $64 million question, because you've written a lot of books about the elite and the Rothschilds who, from your evidence, are at the top of the pyramid, with the Rockefellers right beneath them and the Queen of England right beneath, at the same level as the Rockefellers, beneath the Rothschilds, who took over England in 1815 when they ran the scam there after they beat Napoleon and caused a run on the banks in England by claiming that Napoleon had won.
Which power structure was Kennedy representing?
Because, I mean, he clearly did a lot of New World Order stuff as well, but he did a lot of things that went right in the face of the New World Order.
Was there a split there?
Or did Kennedy suddenly think he was really the President?
Well, actually, before the 1960 election, or the Democratic Convention, Joe Kennedy had gotten agreement from the Mafia that if they would
Everybody that they could get a hold of to vote for John Kennedy, that he would see that they would leave the mob alone, and that didn't happen because Bobby and Jack both... Again, because Daddy had a stroke.
But I mean, were these boys... Why did the boys... I guess they were just off their leash?
Well, they just figured they needed to clean up the United States, and they were right.
They really needed to clean it up.
But this was a deliberate effort to
Get Bobby and Jack out of the way because they were on the heels of the Mafia.
Jack had fired all the top officials of the CIA over the Bay of Pigs fiasco.
All sorts of reasons that were negative for the insiders but positive for the rest of the world.
But they couldn't stand for this to go on.
And now as
A lot of people have now noticed, even Bruce Willis finally woke up last year and we told you about it first, then months later it came out in Vanity Fair.
He said the people that killed Kennedy are the ones running the country today.
And I think that's a true statement.
I'd like to be able to get to Bruce and also I think you've got to address a couple of other actors there.
Well, I mean, I've given Charlie Sheen your books.
Have you?
I mean, to my friends, I've mailed them everything out of this office that we sell on the website.
Kevin Costner, I'd like to get him a copy somehow.
Well, we do have the contact info for Kevin Costner, but I've never talked to Kevin Costner.
In fact, I was given his contact info and just haven't acted on it.
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In the four minutes we've got left with you, you've written books about the bankers.
What's your The Elite Don't Dare Let Us Tell The People is about that and a lot more.
Kind of a history of what's happening.
The Federal Reserve designed this liquidity.
They issued it.
They did it.
We got Bilderberg leaks three years ago.
They were going to implode the housing market.
We talked about that here.
Now they're talking about taking over three federal agencies and they're going to run regulation of the entire infrastructure of finances.
Not just banking.
Everything.
And they're going to be given total governmental power now.
Not just over the control of the banks, but over everything.
I mean, it's amazing, and I said they do this, it wasn't hard to figure that out.
They always create the crisis, offer the solution.
In summation, what's really happening right now with the banks and what should we do about it?
Well, you're right on target.
They want to gain economic control, full economic control of the United States, and so the way to do that is like many false flag operations they get involved in.
They have created this subprime loan fiasco deliberately so that they can now say, well, we really need to get control of... They changed the rules!
Well, that's right.
And Paulson has said we need to give the Federal Reserve more power so that they can prevent all these things from happening in the future.
That's a bunch of lies.
It's all a plan.
I mean, in any money operation, you want multiple people looking at it, looking at the books.
I mean, they're not just going to have fun with the fiat Federal Reserve now.
They're saying they're taking everything over.
One group.
That's right.
Now, they skinned the American people several years back by the Savings Alone fiasco.
That was a major skinning, and nobody went to prison, nobody was fired.
Bushes ran that, along with McCain.
Yeah, one of George Herbert Walker Bush's sons was directly involved in that.
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Silverado, yeah.
But, you know, I really don't understand
They're involving—it has to be nothing but greed and power, because they have all the money.
In fact, they create money out of thin air.
In fact, they just want to hurt middle-class people.
Like you said, when you're poor, like a Mexican peon or somebody in Soviet Russia, you can't fight back.
You're spending all your time on the treadmill, and they admit in government textbooks, higher-level PhDs and control, that they'd, like you said, economic warfare.
It's that simple.
That's right, and Kissinger said in one of the Bilderberg meetings that
If the people of the world see that there's a major threat to them, they will welcome some group like us to come in and save them from all this danger.
And now they're calling it the Security Prosperity Partnership, and I saw the head of it just a few months ago on CNN say there's going to be an economic collapse or some other crisis, and then that's how we're going to get the NAU is the people.
It's going to be billed as the savior.
I mean, they're just saying it in the open.
That's right.
First of all, they create the problem, and then they offer the suggestion.
And almost all bills passed by Congress are written by people in special interest.
Well, in closing, you said in 2001, you made a documentary about it, or was it 2000, that we would have a North American Union by 2005, and then they signed the SPP
Secretly, in March 23rd, up in Waco, and now we got the documents through lawsuits, and it is the NAU, and you knew that because you'd studied what Rockefeller had written.
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In fact, in my video of the American Union, I talk about, or I include footage of Dick Cheney saying at the Council of America's meeting,
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And I want to get him up for a full hour next week.
The internationalforecaster.com is his website.
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I've got Bob Chapman on because he also worked in counterintelligence.
He then has been one of the most successful brokers out there.
He's had the biggest financial newsletter until he retired, and now he's built it up to one of the biggest today.
It's a twice-weekly, once-monthly newsletter that is hard copy mailed out to you once a month, and it's TheInternationalForecaster.com, and his forecasting's always been excellent.
He predicted what
Five, six years ago that goal would go to 1,000.
There'll always be corrections where it goes back down to 850 and then back up to 900 plus today.
But the fundamentals are there that they are devaluing the dollar further.
The fixes they quote have to all the problems in the economy are more of the medicine that made us so sick.
So, as simply as you can, sir, what's currently happening with the economy?
Adjusting your forecast, which has always been accurate, but I mean, do you still say it's two years out for the big collapses?
Most of the other experts we have on say.
And then, secondarily and more importantly, Bob Chapman,
The Federal Reserve to take over three other federal bodies, to have true governmental power now, and to have no one looking over their shoulder when they engineered the consolidation crisis that we're now seeing.
They're now talking about nothing but foxes running the farm, not just the hen house.
So can you break this down for us, sir?
Well, I still believe we're two years out, and perhaps longer.
They will continue
To try to work their magic as long as possible, but they know in the end it's not going to be successful.
My belief is that in the interim, over the next couple of years, we'll have more wars and a continuation of the wars that we have to keep people off balance.
And if things get as nasty as I think they're going to get, then I would guess that they probably would
Uh, institute, uh, a selective service draft again.
But to get back on the financial end of it, um, the, uh, yesterday, the Senate and the House, uh, agreed to help builders, uh, help people who wanted to buy foreclosed homes by giving them tax rebates, and they're gonna give builders $6 billion.
And, um, they haven't even thrown a bone
uh... to the uh... the homeowners uh... not that they're really white that the daisy chain all the way down was full of fraud including the borrowers but uh... the whole exercise if you look at what the house and senate did yesterday is to make sure that the builders and the lenders and the mortgage originators stay in business and if perhaps
Yeah, they're just going to be Prozac pushers.
So basically, just like when you get hit by nerve gas in the military in Iraq,
Uh, they just give you Prozac as you're in a wheelchair dying, uh, and, uh, you know, as they, when they autopsy you, your brain's one-third the size full of VX, and sarin, it's the same thing here.
We'll just send you to a shrink and put you on Prozac as you lose everything you got because it was an exercise in roping a dope.
Exactly.
And, uh, and so that, that's what the pro proposal is from the Senate.
As far as the Fed's concerned, I think you've coveted in part by saying that the powers that be in New York and Washington want to rule everything under the Fed in government and regulation, when in fact it's not a government agency, it's a privately owned corporation.
And how successful we're going to be at that remains to be seen.
Because you have a number of factions within government that don't want to give up.
And, like, the CFTC really doesn't want to be part of the SEC.
They like their own little kingdoms.
And there is also people on Wall Street, particularly in the hedge fund industry, that does not want a lot of these changes to come about.
They like it the way it is.
Well, I'd like to just get your take on this, Bob Chapman of TheInternationalForecaster.com.
This is the same scam.
The private banks that had tried to get a central bank here several times and had tried to kill Andrew Jackson over it, and it had some incarnations before that failed because they didn't have centralized control, failed in their scam, so we had
Twelve and fifteen percent growth rate for decades, for over a hundred years.
But they did get control in 1913 by engineering panics before that.
And they said, we'll never have another panic.
This is scientific.
We run everything now.
They used that to consolidate banks they didn't own.
Then they engineered the 29 collapse.
As a consolidation, that's now been declassified.
That's going to come out in mainline history books.
So now it's the same thing.
They issue all the credit out of nothing.
They get real assets.
Now people go bankrupt.
They get the assets back and get bailed out.
They devalue the currency while putting their assets into international holdings and commodities.
So isn't this their MO to screw things up by design and then always pose as the savior again and again?
I mean, why can't the public see this?
Well, I think it's a matter of education, which unfortunately gets worse as time goes on.
They've been doing this for a thousand years.
And they have never been able to implement world government, which is their ultimate aim.
And this is what they're after this time.
And as you say, they have one panic after another.
And yes, they were by design hoping they could make it work.
And they haven't been able to make it work yet.
And they will continue to do this, and this is the process that we're in right now.
And they're going for it again.
But I think they already know this, that this time, they can't do it.
They're going to have to wait for what we might call another cycle that they'll create 15 or 20 or 25 or 30 years down the line.
That's why Brzezinski and others are saying that they've set them back 30 years.
Is that hyperbole, or is that accurate?
That's absolutely accurate, and I'll tell you that his first statement, which was two years ago, was that they set it back 15 years.
And I wrote in my article, how about 50?
And he came back in another dissertation or article and said 30 years.
And I can't but suspicion that they're reading my stuff.
Well, they admit that your stuff gets read all over, Bob.
Yeah, well, anyway, he did say that, and he is the guiding light for Barack Obama.
And so you know that where Hillary's at and John McCain are at, so that's what we've got to choose from, unless Ron Paul can get the delegates.
And, uh, be successful.
Well, here's the problem.
Here's the problem.
Everybody's running around saying they're going to deliver the delegates to Ron Paul, and Ron Paul has been instructing delegates at the state level to go vote for John McCain, for their delegates.
So, even if they get all the delegates, Ron Paul is refusing them.
And then they say, oh no, that's a secret plan of his.
Well, I've talked to him.
It is not a secret plan of Ron Paul's.
And then I'm just not going to play along with the Kool-Aid drinking, Bob.
Oh, I'm not either.
No, I'm not saying you are.
I'm saying that I've been criticized for not jumping on this bandwagon, and I don't even see a bandwagon to jump on.
It's... I mean, Ron Paul's educating people.
We've had a great victory.
He just talked about Bernanke trying to set up fascism yesterday in the banking committee.
I love Ron Paul.
He made a really strong run, but we need to take this army of 10 million Ron Paul supporters or more.
What would you do with that army?
I mean, I think Ron Paul needs to start directing people.
I've told him that on air.
Well, I think the only alternative is for him to run.
That's a third party.
You know, you said you talked to him.
He's shooing the delegates over to McCain.
Did he tell you why?
He said that's... Well, I mean, I know why.
The last time we had a broker convention in 1948, it was only a 2% difference.
And then people said the candidate trying to take delegates was stealing.
Can you imagine Paul with, you know, 50, 60 delegates with actual voters, popular vote?
And yeah, he is getting a lot of the delegates, not the majority, but a big piece all over the country showing up at the... I mean, the delegates are supposed to honor the popular vote.
And so, everybody's putting their energy into getting all the delegates.
And I think that's great to take over party platforms and take over party power positions.
I agree with them doing that.
But a lot of them are saying, no, we're going in there and we're going to take the delegates and we're going to make him president, or we're going to make him the nominee.
Well, I really hope that happens.
And, you know, we won't know until we get there.
Who knows, it might work.
It's not going to alter, unless he's in office, either as president or vice president, it is not going to alter what the Fed is trying to do and what these people on Wall Street and government and behind government are trying to do, and that is to gain even more power.
Well I want Ron Paul in office, it's just that
He has said in press releases, he has said on air, that, you know, we're not going to get the nomination now, but we're going to keep fighting and go to the convention for our values.
And, uh, he told the Minnesota delegation, I know Ted was, you know, a delegate, basically.
I'll get Ted in here, get the exact terms.
But, no, the Ron Paul campaign told them.
They said, no, uh, you know, those of you that are representing Ron Paul votes, vote for Ron Paul, but those of you in delegate numbers that are supposed to vote for McCain, do what the party tells you.
Because can you imagine if Ron Paul says, no!
Take all the popular votes from me!
They're gonna say, look at Ron Paul, people trying to steal the election.
But listen, we're already getting off... I don't know where the stealing comes in.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, I understand that in the political process that the delegates can vote for whoever they want, but it is going back 230 years.
People are supposed to
Uh, the delegates are supposed to honor the popular vote.
And then they get on horseback and go to the state capitol, and then they, you know, deliver the popular vote as the delegate.
Mm-hmm.
That goes back to the... All we can do is see what, uh, what it comes to.
Um, uh, I think it's a tricky situation right now.
And, um, uh, the three candidates, uh, to me are dreadful.
And it's a sad commentary that the United States has to choose from such people.
Well, I agree with you, Bob.
We don't have much time left.
What do you think is most important, A, that listeners know about what's currently happening, B, when do you see, I mean, gold's already gone back up quite a bit in the last day, but when do you see gold going back above $1,000?
What's your forecast there?
Well, first off, we've had a rally.
It'll probably flatten out tomorrow.
And early around when I looked at the market, the price of gold was around $9.06.
And one of two things will happen here.
We've already tested the lows once.
We might go down and test them again.
But then again, we may not.
And the bottom is in.
The question is, how long will it take?
It's hard to say.
It came down quickly, and when something comes down quickly, it tends to go back up quickly.
It's obvious that the United States government and others leased gold and sold gold into the market to take it down on an intraday basis about $150 an ounce.
I think they've accomplished what they wanted to do for the time being, because there was so much bad news coming out.
They got the stock market back up from 11.6 to 12.6 on the Dow.
And that gives them a lot of leeway in the downside, because they're going to get more and more bad news, because the credit crisis is nowhere near being solved.
Well, that's the thing, is they've pumped all this money and liquidity in, the economy's contracting at the grassroots level, inflation is accelerating, and they're saying everything's fine, we're out of the recession before it ever even began, meanwhile they're devaluing the dollar,
And they're trying to suppress gold, but it's not working.
Well, it comes back like a monster in their look at it.
And that is that the zombie just won't go away.
It just keeps on coming back from the dead.
And it's going to continue to do so.
We're going extremely higher in gold and silver, and the dollar's going lower.
They've abandoned the dollar, and what they're doing instead of defending the dollar and the American economy, is they're saving Wall Street.
It's as simple as that.
And that's been obvious for the last several weeks, and if not months.
And I believe that you're going to have the deflationary factor from the continual
Well, I'll tell you what I'm doing.
I think now that gold has gone down a little bit, that's a buying opportunity.
Due to what the aluminus on the inside have done, very simply is giving you an opportunity to buy cheap gold and silver.
When do you think it's going to go back above $1,000?
Six months from now?
No telling?
A month from now?
Oh, I think it could be quicker than that.
I think we could, there's a possibility we could see that approach again here in the next six weeks.
It is not by the end of the year.
I mean, we've been going at this now for eight years.
Uh, they have extended this gold-silver rally by suppressing it.
And sooner or later, they're gonna run out of gold and silver.
And as you probably have heard, uh, there's major shortages.
He has to get delivery, particularly in silver bars.
And this is all over the world.
I mean, you read the International Forecaster, you see the letters that come in there from people who live down the street from the Perth Mint.
It's amazing.
Bob Chapman, TheInternationalForecaster.com.
I want to get you up a full hour next week.
Stay there.
I'd like to talk to you during the break.
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