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Big Brother.
Mainstream media.
Government cover-ups.
You want answers?
Well, so does he.
He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
We have a big broadcast lined up for you today.
He hasn't been on with us in over a month.
Dr. Jerome Corsi will be joining us in the third hour.
To discuss how the mainstream media continues to claim that there's no such thing as a NAU, Napa Superhighway, Trans-Texas Corridor.
They're building it, announcing it.
Doesn't matter.
The federal documents show they've signed on to the agreements.
Business owners from Texas to California are being sent, we even have just a few employees, letters by their workforce commissions, their departments of labor from the feds through the states telling them you've got to sign on to the North American ID system, replacing the U.S.
employer system.
It's all happening, but we can continue to see this massive denial.
So that's coming up.
In the third hour.
We get him on about once a year or so when he has a new book out.
We're going to be talking to Patrick J. Buchanan today.
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How humorous ideology and greed are tearing America apart.
We're also going to get his take on the Ron Paul revolution.
So, more big guests coming up on the broadcast for you today.
Speaking of the North American Union, Wall Street Journal today, Senate approval of Peru Pact aids Bush's free trade agenda.
When you hear free trade, that means the American Union expanding out of the North American Union, as Vicente Fox has said it is meant to do, as the Council on Foreign Relations has said it was meant to do.
You know, last week in Florida, even the mainstream news reported that
Petersburg newspaper and others, that Romney people were allowed to vote as many times as they wanted.
St.
No one else was allowed to.
Five-year-olds voted.
Some people voted on video.
They didn't care.
Fifteen times apiece, one person did, for Romney.
And so Rob Paul was winning two to one, but then the Romney people showed up on buses with unlimited tickets and were able to do that.
Then Rob Paul won in Virginia because they had a fair poll
Well, now in San Francisco, the GOP has canceled the straw poll because as scores of Ron Paul supporters showed up, and there really wasn't many other people showing up, the GOP sponsors just canceled it.
I mean, look at all this corruption.
Oh, no, the government and different parties, they would never steal elections.
They would...
Never cheat.
They would never.
Let's just trust these black boxes with no record of how you voted, with the different engineers from the major companies going public and saying they were hired to engage in fraud, and the thousands of cases where they've been caught engaged in fraud, and their own internal memos, and their own directors publicly saying, I'm here to deliver the votes to this person or that person.
I mean, it's just wall to wall.
Corruption and fake FEMA newscasts and fake INS slash ICE Homeland Security press conferences and fake news purchases in the tens of billions.
I mean, just a rain of propaganda spew.
But it's easily discernible from the real and accurate news that's out there.
Even a lot of mainstream news is accurate if you know how to check the basis, the background.
Integrate it with other alternative reports.
But the big nightly reports, the big news you hear, the big officialdom, the front page type stuff is generally government paid for propaganda or spin.
I should do a whole show sometime on how to identify it, how to track it down, how to test it.
But it's really a knowledge you gain, too.
And even when you're an expert in this, you occasionally get hoodwinked.
But it's good to just know this stuff is going on.
I've got a bunch of other news.
Is the ex-Canadian Prime Minister the next 9-11 truther?
We'll talk about that as well and more on the former Italian president coming out and saying 9-11 is a big, fat, inside job.
We'll be right back.
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It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
Yesterday, thanks to a listener tip, we picked up on one of the major Italian newspapers, well actually several of them, that the former president had gone public and said that 9-11 was an inside job.
And then I had my wife look at it, whose dad worked for the Agriculture Department, so she lived in France, she lived in Spain, she also lived in Italy, so she speaks good Italian.
Sad issue.
The point is...
That she went and read it and said, yeah, he indeed says that.
And then they posted it on a bunch of message boards, a bunch of news sites picked it up.
A lot of the people were saying, this is fake, it isn't real.
Babblefish is wrong because they were using Babblefish to decipher it.
And it did indeed in Babblefish say that he was saying that it was an inside job.
And now a bunch of other big sites have had people translate it into the exact same translation we got.
He did say it, and that's just the way it is.
People are in continual denial about any serious news.
I remember when we first got the PBS video of Larry Silverstein saying that
They gave the order to pull it and watch the building come down.
The next clip in the film is them destroying the other buildings months later and going, getting ready to pull building six, and then they blow it up.
And pull is a demolition term.
There have been news articles done where engineers have called 30, 40 companies and emailed them and gotten them to respond.
What does pull it mean?
And that means control demolition.
I mean, folks are going to deny this.
Folks are going to deny this.
The White House is now saying they never said Iraq had WMDs.
Doesn't matter how many video clips, how many audio clips, how many presidential addresses, how many states of the unions, how many press conferences by then Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, they're just saying they never said it.
Remember, Karl Rove said that we control reality, i.e.
the White House.
We control the future.
We are the history's actors.
And everyone else is just spectators.
Well, we don't have to be spectators anymore.
We don't have to go along with this.
When they say the amnesty bill isn't an amnesty bill but it's secret, just trust us and then we get a copy of the bill and it's the biggest amnesty in U.S.
history, they've now been discredited again.
When they come out and say there's no longer mercury in vaccines and then Bush vetoes a bill trying to legally block mercury in vaccines, they're discredited again.
When they say there's no NAFTA superhighway structure being built, when it's on the Federal Transportation Department's own websites and announcements for five years running, the Trans-Texas Corridor for at least five, six years has been announced in Texas, thousands of places.
Do you believe CNN gets up there and just says it doesn't exist, Ron Paul is delusional and just makes things up and is insane?
So I really welcome the wholesale denial by the establishment, because it isn't working anymore.
People are finding out that you're a pack of liars.
But again, ex-Italian president, intel agencies know 9-11, an inside job, man who blew the whistle on Gladio tells Italy's largest newspaper, attacks were run by CIA Mossad.
You can see our translation there on the site, and you can then go to
I think we're good to go.
He fingered Israel even stronger, ladies and gentlemen, than we had first said.
We just translated it to say that all the intelligence agencies know that U.S.
intelligence and the Mossad carried out the attacks to launch wars in the Middle East.
He actually goes on to say the U.S., the Mossad, for the Zionists.
So it's very volatile, very incendiary.
We're just reporting on what this highly respected seven-year, that's a long time for an Italian politics, former president and also former intelligence chief is saying.
So there was a double statement on Israel, not a single.
So it was worse than what we said.
Excuse me, we always at first don't get it as bad as it actually is.
Excuse us for trying to decipher it and do that for everybody.
But...
Here is the translation, word for word, from Italian into English, okay?
And then when others did it, it was exactly.
By my wife.
When other Italian websites responded, and when it was translated, word for word, exactly as we said.
Okay?
Bin Laden supposedly confessed to the Al-Qaeda September attack.
To the two towers in New York claiming to be the author of the attack of 9-11.
While all the intelligence services of America and Europe know well that the disastrous attack had been planned and realized from the CIA American and the Mossad with the aid of the Zionist world in order to put under accusation the Arabic countries in order to induce the Western powers to take part in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Now, that is the exact translation out of Italian.
But the government is not even officially denying this.
They're having their moles and disinfo people still run around from dig to you name it saying he didn't say that.
Now, he's gone public before about the U.S.
government in conjunction with the Italian government staging terror attacks in Operation Gladio.
Across Europe and Italy in the 1960s, 70s, and culminating in the Bologna bombing in 1980.
And an official Italian parliamentary inquiry in 2000 officially found that intelligence agencies of the West staged the terror attacks.
Just as he said in 1992.
Okay, he's the guy that broke that.
He'd been the intelligence chief before that.
And had come into power right when, as intelligence chief, right when the Bologna situation happened, he internally, from the experts we've had on, all the books have been written, the news articles we've covered, said that's enough, but then he did say, well, I'm guilty too, because I didn't expose this at first.
You know, he put an end to it, but he certainly...
People say, well, why would he do that?
Some people have a soul, ladies and gentlemen, and it was just too much to watch all those dead children and women at Bologna.
There was 144 killed at that event.
It's all covered in Terror Storm, a history of government-sponsored terror.
Before we go to break, I want to play this three-minute clip from...
The news.
Young Pakistani's bin Laden is a CIA creation.
Good Morning America gets more than it bargained for in a feature on young people in Pakistan.
And then the person that edited this video together, you'll hear the audio.
Put it together with documents and statements and Bush making comments that just back up what we already knew, that it literally is just a completely staged event.
He's a real person, a real asset of the government, Tim Osman, codename in the CIA, but used as the kind of fictitious boogeyman.
Here it is.
And a surprising assessment that shows the distance between our political cultures.
When I asked about Osama bin Laden's latest audio tape, one of them answered with a question of her own.
Who is Osama bin Laden?
Who?
He's just a character created by America.
Actually, 98% of Pakistan would probably fall along the same line to believe that Osama is basically a CIA agent who is working undercover to put a bad image of Islam.
Really?
So that there is no Osama Bin Laden?
A lot of them find it difficult to believe that such Muslims could actually exist.
We could all drive an hour from where we are right now and find many, many people
Who stand by what Osama bin Laden says in the spirit of Islam.
To be quite honest, that's a very marginalized section of Pakistani society.
Islamic extremism that you find here did not really exist in Pakistan pre 9-11.
Really?
So that there is no really, there is no Osama Bin Laden?
That Osama is basically a CIA agent who is working undercover to put a bad image of Islam.
In an exclusive interview with Newsweek, the CIA field commander in Tora Bora during the invasion, Gary Bernson, broke his silence.
He explained that his intelligence operatives had tracked Bin Laden to Tora Bora.
Mr. Bernson feels so strongly about getting this story out.
In getting his book published that he actually resigned two years short of retirement from the CIA in order to publish his book.
At the time of this interview, he was required to speak to his attorney until the CIA cleared his book for publication.
At various points in time, they did have, to my understanding, definitive intelligence as to his general location within Tora Bora.
I can't go into detail as to the actual sources of the intelligence and the collection methods because those remain classified.
However, we had Osama bin Laden essentially cornered in Tora Bora and for whatever reasons we did not do what was necessary in order to ensure that he did not escape.
Of course we're after Saddam Hussein, I mean bin Laden.
He's isolated.
Created by America.
According to investigative reporter Seymour Hersh, the Bush administration with Saudi Arabia is secretly funding radical Sunni groups, some with ties to Al-Qaeda, to counter Shia groups backed by Iran.
A lot of them find it difficult to believe that such Muslims could actually exist.
There is also no evidence that bin Laden used the term Al-Qaeda to refer to the name of a group until after September the 11th, when he realized that this was the term the Americans had given them.
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Alright, getting back to who Bin Laden is.
Pretty much everybody in the population knows that
Bin Laden was one of the main sons of one of the wealthiest families in Saudi Arabia, the Bin Ladens, who go back over 80 years to being members of British intelligence, back from the days when the British came in and took over Saudi Arabia and created the country.
And they would go out and just arm Bedouin tribes and have them go in and take over different cities and different sectors and then set up their own imperial system there.
And the Bin Ladens, this is mainline history, have been servants of British intel ever since.
The British set up what is Iraq today, Kuwait.
They drew all the lines of what is the Middle East today.
And then they had a public strategy in the 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s to radicalize Muslims because the Middle East and Central Asia was westernizing.
People were wearing suits and ties.
There was western music on the radio.
Women weren't, except in very rural areas, wearing the hoods over their heads.
And that couldn't be allowed.
Their presidents had been trained in the U.S.
and France and England.
And it couldn't be put up with.
So just as they had sent in the ragtag Stone Age folks out in the desert to go in and take over the cities, they went into Iran, they went into Iraq, they went into a whole score of nations, and they went and hired the most radical Muslims there were.
This is all public.
And gave them the weapons to go in and undermine and destroy those countries and take them over.
And it's the same thing today.
And before 1979, Afghanistan was developing.
Afghanistan was westernizing, though it was one of the more primitive countries.
Massive Wahhabist funding had been brought in already by Saudi Arabia, a particular radical sect of the folks that are on the opposite side of the fence from the Shiites, the Sunnis.
And so they came into the nation and they radicalized them.
Now it's been declassified.
We already knew this.
under Carter started a covert campaign commanded by Zbigniew Brzezinski, National Security Advisor, to run attacks on the Russians in the several nations north of Afghanistan.
In 79, the U.S.
When the Russians fought back and came into the country and occupied it, it was then the, quote, holy war.
The jihad was... I'm not defending the Russians either.
This is geopolitical strategy.
They were sent in, and after a, what, seven-plus-year war, the Russians were driven from the country thanks to CIA advisors, Stinger missiles, and other weapons platforms knocking out their different rotary weapons.
...type aircraft.
They're helicopters.
And others small and light attack aircraft.
So, that's what happened.
And then Pakistan, there's a coup in 99 that the U.S.
funds.
Our own government under Clemson and Bush helped give the nukes to them.
Then Perez Musharraf goes in and starts funding the radical Muslim groups.
Pakistani intelligence literally runs the Taliban in the nation.
That's mainstream news.
Then suddenly all these people from Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and other nations, thousands of them come into the U.S., they're trained at U.S.
military bases, and every type of spying technique there is.
They're given high-level security clearances.
They're given terrorist cover names and stories.
That gets in the State Department computers.
When the State Department tries to block them going in and out of the U.S., they're told, no, these are CIA officers.
They're here for anti-terrorism.
I mean, that's all Toronto Star, Associated Press, Newsweek, Pensacola News Journal, the San Jose Mercury News.
I mean, it's in my films.
Don't believe me.
It's all hidden in plain view.
This stuff all comes out and then gets clamped down.
And then you talk about the 5,000 Iraqis brought in by Bush, 41, and then Clinton.
Who are involved in OKC, who also have national security clearances, and are also designated as agents, and they're waiting in every U.S.
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They get one order, one button's pushed, they're released.
Okay, we'll talk about what that'll look like when we get back.
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In regards to this Anglo-American establishment thing that's been going on, I guess you're quite aware of the international, the Royal International...
International Affairs.
The Royal Institute of International Affairs.
Yeah, well, they've been working in cahoots since their inception.
But here's a quote from Arnold Toynbee that was quoted back in 31.
The original source is the trend for international...
...affair since the war, meaning World War I. Arnold Turnberry, it said, We are at present working discreetly with all our might to wrest this mysterious force called sovereignty out of the clutches of the local nation-states of the world.
All the time we are denying with our lips what we are doing with our hands.
These people have no compulsion about lying if it means to the end they will do it.
It's quite obvious what's been going on.
Arnold Toynbee has been affiliated with Cecil Rhodes and his organization.
You might try...
John 844, there are the fathers of the devil.
There are liars from the beginning, murderers.
So that would be the biblical reference.
Well, here's the deal.
I mean, you read that quote, and I've seen that quote, and we actually had the publication it was originally made in, you know, decades and decades ago.
I mean, Cecil Rhodes wrote best-selling books about how they were going to set up a global British empire and have fronts that did it.
And this has now happened today, and the CFR has got hundreds of quotes out where they say they're going to lie to the public.
I mean, this is what they do.
Well, it's just even with someone that has such a stellar view with this Winston Churchill.
All his adult career, he was a mason and a druid.
He precipitated the sinking of the Lusitania.
He was involved with the
215,000 British troops being killed in World War I at Galapagos.
My source is the Brotherhood of Darkness book, of course, and also Dennis Cuddy.
Of newswithfuse.com is one of the best researchers out there.
I sure wish he'd get Dennis on sometime.
Yeah, we've had Dennis on about ten times.
I do know that if it wasn't for you guys getting the information out, just another thing, in two days we're going to be celebrating the World War, what is it, Pearl Harbor?
Yeah.
Well, I guess you know about with Tyler...
Tyler Kent and trying to feed information to the Senate and the Congress back before World War II about what was the secret decoded messages that he was deciphering for Franklin Roosevelt and Churchill.
He was arrested in England.
That source is another good source.
Sir, it's well known about the Pearl Harbor.
Thank you for the call, Frank.
Interesting points there.
John in California.
Go ahead.
You're on the air.
Hey Alex, how you doing?
Good.
Hey, so last night we were at that straw poll in San Francisco.
Did you hear about it?
Yes, I covered it right at the start of the show.
San Francisco GOP canceled straw poll after Ron Paul supporters pour in from Lou Rockwell.
Tell us about it.
I uploaded, I actually have the video of it.
You know, the spirit of this Ron Paul campaign is just,
I met a guy on the phone last night who spent the night adjusting the light levels and then compressing the video so that we could all see it.
It's on YouTube right now.
If you just search for San Francisco Straw Poll DEC4 December 4, you should be able to find it.
And to add to the surrealism of the event, the woman who was running it was wearing a Santa hat throughout the whole time and proceeded to...
With a number of incomprehensible reasons as to why they couldn't conduct the straw poll.
Mainly so that we wouldn't offend the other guests who were going to lose.
Well, that's political correctness.
Oh, we have to ban your speech.
In fact, I have a mainstream article where a Santa was fired from a store because he was going, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho.
People thought he was calling women whores.
And, I mean, this is just political correctness, no free speech, just cops running around in black uniforms everywhere tasering everyone.
I find it ironic that here we are, the Republican Party has been trying to export democracy.
We can't even run a straw poll.
They're complete and total New World Order shills, the lot of them.
I mean, this country is run by an army of parasites, and they're not going to let us rest in control without a fight.
Alex, the interesting thing about it is that the woman, when you see this woman talking, I mean, she clearly is not a mover and shaker in the Republican Party.
I mean, she was told to do this.
And when you combine that with the irregularities, the Mitt Romney straw poll... So she openly says, and I know the Lou Rockwell reports this, but she openly says, well, since Ron Paul's going to win, that'll hurt other people's feelings.
We're just not going to... That's the whole point of a straw poll, to see who wins.
Well, you are a lot more comprehensible than she was just now.
The video speaks for itself.
Go to YouTube and check it out.
I have an account on there that's called I'm a Ron Paul Republican.
Try searching it that way.
When I get off air, I can talk to one of your guys.
When I get to my stop, I'll shoot you a link as soon as I can.
Are you cell phone calling me on Skype?
No.
No, I'm cell phone calling you, but I am... But no, I mean, I'm using... Actually, I'm using an iPhone.
No, it's just bad audio.
Thank you for the call, sir.
Yeah.
Send us the info.
Let's go ahead and talk to Jim in Florida.
Jim, you're on the air.
Hey, Alex.
Hi.
Hi.
I'm proud of you for talking about how hard it is to explain to people about McVeigh's role in Oklahoma City because they don't believe in mind control.
Just remind them of what a group of rank amateurs was able to do to Patricia Hearst in a very short time.
That's right.
They had her joining the Black Panther Party.
No, no, it was the Sudanese Liberation Army.
They had her joining that and totally brainwashed in a matter of weeks.
And then, of course, look at Jim Jones and look at all these people.
Yeah, but anybody who is, you know, in their 40s by now remembers the Patricia Hearst thing.
We were like, hello, you saw in that bank robbery, you know.
But a lot of people now are aware of the truth of 9-11.
I think a lot of people now would be prepared to start listening to Oklahoma City Truth.
Well, I mean, it's come out in mainstream papers that in depositions that they've got from Nichols that McVeigh said he worked for the U.S.
government.
We already knew that.
We already knew, and it's come out now in documents via lawsuits, that the Southern Poverty Law Center was running the Elohim City Training Compound.
I mean, it never ends.
The FBI and the First World Trade Center started the group, cooked the bomb, trained the drivers, told them where to park it, gave them the detonators.
Their own informant said, I thought this was a sting.
I'm not going to be involved in the bombing.
And they said, stand down.
The bombing goes forward.
Yeah.
You know, the election's in 11 months, and I don't think Hillary Clinton wants a populist who's well-informed on Oklahoma City truth at that time.
What do you think?
No, and we need to discredit her as well.
We need to discredit both the political parties.
Yeah, yeah, right.
I just was wondering if you guys could throw up a one-page flyer of Oklahoma City Truth for dummies or something like that, you know?
Yeah, I mean, how about you guys write it up, and if it's accurate, I'll post it.
Okay, well, I'm sure there's other people out there.
Maybe you can get several possibilities and work up one out of the group of them.
Yeah, thank you for the call.
A lot we'd like to do.
Appreciate it.
Who's up next here?
Don in Texas, go ahead.
Hey, Alex.
How you doing?
Good.
I was just wondering if you heard of the movie getting ready to come out, Charlie Wilson's War?
I have heard a little bit about it.
I don't know the particulars.
It's a main... Oh, yeah, it's about the congressman going and creating the Taliban.
Yeah, I...
Was it at Alabama or Al-Qaeda?
I know it was the Muji.
Basically, everything that you said at the beginning of the broadcast about how they funded Afghanistan to fight against the Soviets, that's the plot of the movie.
And so everything that you're discussing is getting ready to be released as a mainstream movie.
And then people email me and say, I got it from a movie.
Oh, it's absurd.
What I was wondering is, originally it was a book.
If you knew anything about Charlie Wilson, the congressman, and how he was an alcoholic, and how, you know, basically it was just a... It's now widely known.
That's kind of my point.
We're also implying, because I have the synopsis of the film, at first I didn't register, that it's a big whitewash saying that he ran it all and he did it all.
That's what I was thinking.
Yeah, they're going to whitewash it in that way.
Yeah, long before Wilson was sent by Reagan, it was going on with Jimmy Carter and Zbigniew Brzezinski.
Brzezinski's written a best-selling book bragging about it all, how he ran the whole thing.
And Operation Cyclone.
Wow.
Thank you very much.
Thank you.
Yeah, I mean, you know, and Robert De Niro makes a Skull and Bones movie, and it's a big whitewash.
I mean, it shows the devil worship and stuff, but it's still a whitewash.
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And we've got Dr. Jerome Corsi to analyze all the incredible disinformation and spin from the news media claiming there's no such thing as even a trans-Texas corridor.
I mean, that's all over our news.
They got billboards up saying trans-Texas corridor everywhere.
I mean, it's really getting crazy.
But they know the general public doesn't look into it.
So they just lie.
I mean, imagine cops out there driving along all day.
They see these trans-Texas corridor... What's the name of the website?
Billboards everywhere with a guy with a cowboy hat on it saying how great it is.
Bus drivers.
There's got to be 20 of these in Austin.
I mean, look how they treat you like idiots.
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Brendan in New York.
You're on the air, sir.
Hi, Alex.
I just have a few minutes left on my phone, so I might get cut off at some point here.
Just go ahead and hit us.
I was wondering if you caught Lou Dodds on Democracy Now!
yesterday.
No, I didn't catch it.
He was there for the entire hour.
They talked about the immigration issue.
And it was interesting, towards the end of the episode, someone mentioned the North American Union, and one of the co-anchors on the show just completely denied its existence.
And then today, on today's episode of Democracy Now!, they had a gentleman from the Southern Poverty Law Center.
Let me guess, saying that if you talk about the NAU, it's code word for hurting blacks.
For hurting any minority, it seems like.
In this case, Latinos.
Their headline today is FBI statistics show anti-Latino hate crimes on the rise.
And it's all statistics from the Southern Poverty Law Center.
The folks that brought you Elohim City, the command base.
Oh, that's great.
It just seems like they're really covering, they're confusing this issue with anti-immigration.
Hey, when we had Chinese spies and Chinese generals running the Commerce Department, CNN would say it was racism against Asians to talk about it.
They treat the public like complete morons.
It's incredible to me, because I go to Democracy Now!, I go to Pacifica Radio, you know, as a legitimate source of news, and it just, it really shocks me.
Sir, it's all Ford Foundation run.
Yeah, I've looked into that a little bit.
They admit some of the things that are happening, but then give fraudulent solutions to it all, more government, more corporate-controlled crime syndicate.
I mean, the government is a tool of the multinationals.
Yeah.
It seems like they've thrown a little bit of truth in there.
And they say, see, look here, you can't deny this.
And then they just tie up all this other misinformation.
Well, what do you think Glenn Beck does?
He'll get on and say, law of the sea treaty is totally evil.
New order takeover, it's horrible.
Let's arrest Ron Paul supporters.
And neither the anchors of Democracy Now!
nor Lou Dobbs brought it up.
And when the North American Union was finally brought up at the end of yesterday's episode, Juan Gonzalez, he just kind of sneered at it.
And they really, I don't know, it was interesting.
They didn't talk about it.
They jumped directly to the Minutemen.
They talked about all these other issues.
Yeah, that guilt by association.
I've noticed they'll have newscasts about child molesters, and then they'll have the next piece is about the Minutemen.
Or they'll have a... I mean, it's all psychological warfare.
And I mean, do the citizens out there listening think it's cute or fun to have this done against us?
You just have to look at the money.
You have to look at the fact that every dollar that's issued is loaned.
And that, you know, there's a lot of key issues which just seem to get lost.
Look, Amy Goodman, the person that runs Democracy Now!,
Excuse me?
How can they not speak up?
How can they not, you know?
Because she's living in a penthouse, man!
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Continuing with your phone calls, ladies and gentlemen, as we await Pat Buchanan joining us, and then of course Dr. Jerome Corsi.
Every day I'm sent, I don't know, 10, 15, 20, depends on the day, different state documents, federal documents on their own websites, announcements, photos of billboards, clips of the heads of different legislatures in the U.S.
and Canada.
Announcing the North American Union, announcing the trade corridors, announcing the NAFTA superhighways.
I mean, here's just one of them today.
And this is from Infrastructure and Transportation, Alberta Government.
See, just up there, they don't even deny any of it.
NAFTA trade corridors.
And it shows the NAFTA, it calls it NAFTA superhighway, is the one that goes through Texas.
The other big massive one is Canamax.
Then they call another one just Interstate 5, and then Camino Real is one that comes out of the Mexico border up into New Mexico, into Colorado, and then on up into Canada, right up through Wyoming and Montana on that border.
I mean, this is what I mean.
I'm literally just grounding in documents.
And you're just emailing them in mass.
Keep it up.
I mean, no one, no one person could track hundreds of federal agencies in each country.
I don't know if Mexico has hundreds.
I know Canada has hundreds of different agencies and sub-agencies.
I know the U.S.
does.
You read the list from the SPP meetings.
I mean, there's thousands of people at them.
Thousands of different heads of every agency you can imagine.
It's just unbelievable.
They even have joint sessions of Congress secretly.
They'll be admitted.
Well, they're having a secret session of the North American Congress.
They were having that six years ago.
Well, they're in Cancun.
It's not open to the public.
I forgot about that.
We ought to pull that up and post that.
I mean, I just... But here it is.
The website is infratrans.gov.
Or it's better to just type into Google, Infrastructure and Transportation.
It's the Alberta Infrastructure and Transportation.
Just type that in.
And then after that on Google, type NAFTA Trade Corridors.
And then it's called NAFTA Superhighway.
Hey, but that baby doesn't exist!
Official map.
Oh my goodness.
I just can't handle it anymore.
We've got billboards everywhere saying Trans-Texas Corridor, and CNN says Ron Paul's delusional and claims there's a Trans-Texas Corridor in Texas.
The billboards are everywhere!
In fact, I meant to Google that during the break.
I forget the exact name of it.
I know it says Trans-Corridor.
I wonder if it's .gov.txt.
It's got a big website up there.
It says Trans-Texas Corridor on it.
Let me just type it in.
Trans-Texas Corridor.
Okay.
And you type that in.
And keeping Texas moving.
In your area, Trans-Texas Corridor, new toll roads, congestion relief, safer roads.
See how great it is.
Oh, there's a news article today about how they're going to put transponders in all evacuees' vehicles.
Trans-Texas Corridor.
Here's Wikipedia saying it's real.
Oh, it's ttc.keeptexasmoving.org.
There we go.
Imaginary.
Huge maps everywhere saying it's part of the Napa Superhighway.
Says how they're taking all the private property right there on their site.
Oh, here it is.
Transtexascorridor.blogspot.com.
It's just, I can't believe I'm here like an idiot going, it's real.
It's real.
We're not crazy.
There's billboards everywhere.
We're not.
I know I just keep repeating this over and over again.
We've got Corsi coming up next hour to talk about it with his angle on it.
I mean, I'm actually getting a headache now when I think about this because watching everybody get conned, watching the public get snookered and suckered and scammed and bamboozled and taken for a ride, fleeced,
Cheered.
Scammed.
Robbed.
Shanghai'd.
Bushwhacked.
Defrauded.
Swindled.
Ugh!
I mean, at a certain point, I'm like, why do I even do this show?
If the idiot moron yuppies out there think everything's so cute and funny and they don't need to get involved in politics or they can talk about how they like Hillary or they like Fred Thompson or Giuliani, you make me sick!
What is it you don't understand?
It's like when a big city police department goes corrupt in cases in New York where they'd send two-thirds of the vice squad to prison for it.
You know, clean the city up.
And then it gets corrupt again in a few years.
The whole government's gone that way.
That doesn't mean you rubber-stamping something at some bureaucracy or you going out and inspecting water lines.
I'm not saying you.
I mean the higher-ups, folks, are just literally swaggering around totally in the...
Bought and paid for by foreign interests.
They're openly talking about how they want martial law in America.
They killed a bunch of people on 9-11, absolute fact.
And it's just getting worse!
It's getting worse and worse.
Okay, I guess Thomas in Tennessee is up next.
You're on the air, Thomas.
Hey Alex, how you doing?
Good.
Listen, most of the population is intent on staying uninformed.
Just the other night in the debate, I don't know if anybody commented on it or even talked about it, but Huckabee just took away one of Ron Paul's platforms, just went with it and got big applause.
I'm going to take away the IRS.
I've never heard him say that before.
You know, the silence is deafening because no one's talking about the rise in the polls and he's dominating everywhere.
And then they're just going to take away his platforms and repeat what he says and get applause.
It's ridiculous.
And Sam Cohen... Well, by the way, Huckabee is for tuition for illegal aliens.
I know, I know.
But they're not going to... It doesn't matter.
He's a good little toady pot.
They're afraid that conservatives are going to wake up the polls, so they're just calling him the little starling now.
They're just intent on staying uninformed.
You know, 35 years ago, 40 years ago, Anthony Hilder...
With Millennium 2000, we put out a set of record albums about the Illuminati 40 years ago.
I mean, I was just born then.
Sam Cohen, the father of the neutron bomb, said that it was impossible for that Ryder truck to bring down that building in Oklahoma City.
The father of the neutron bomb.
People are just intent on staying uninformed.
They don't love their children.
When I hug and kiss my children at bed every night, I thank the Lord that I have...
Well, imagine CNN and Fox and national talk show hosts and questions during the debates.
Are saying it doesn't exist, and Ron Paul, they're saying he's mentally ill.
As soon as he said... I mean, they've got billboards up and TV ads!
As soon as he said Napa Superhighway, if there was an informed public out there, they would have Googled Napa Superhighway and seen at least 500 hits immediately, right in front of their eyeballs.
But they just are intent on living on Fox News soundbites and just sitting there like dumbed-down sheep,
And not doing anything about it.
It's their fault if they do that.
It's their fault.
Personally, they're really held responsible if they do not do their own research.
The thing is, is that if they can't even admit... I mean, there's 25 million, 26 million people in Texas.
There's hundreds of billboards up just on the 35 corridor saying Trans-Texas Corridor, TV ads, how great it is.
And I guarantee you a bunch of Texans watched television and thought Ron Paul was a kook, even though they see the Trans-Texas Corridor.
Right now in the state.
I mean, that's what I mean.
And then imagine if they can't believe that when it's in their face.
Or when you type Napa Superhighway in and it's on the federal websites.
Then can you imagine me telling them they're putting cancer viruses in their vaccines?
Can you imagine me telling them that they're carrying out eugenics against all of us?
They don't even know what eugenics means, brother.
They literally... I know, it's just... Hey, listen, I appreciate your call.
Let's talk to Mark in Boston.
Mark, you're on the air.
Go ahead.
Hey, Alex, thank you for taking my call.
I'm calling to announce that the Boston Tea Party and Conference for 9-11 Truth will be happening December 15th and 16th.
We've got an advertisement up on Infowars.net that I personally paid for out of my own pocket.
I'm actually not to toot my own horn or anything, but I was the guy that was assaulted by the Fox News reporter, and you guys graciously put that up on Prison Planet, I believe.
But I would just like to hope that
Things like what We Are Change is doing and what you are doing would influence people to get out there and be active and hand out flyers, hand out your DVDs.
Just get involved.
Come to our conference.
Donate money to Ron Paul.
Tell folks about when and where your conference is.
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We're having Joel Hirshhorn, former staff member, Congressional Office of...
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I'm just reading it from a flyer.
Steven Jones, former physics professor, Richard Gage, Kevin Ryan, we're having Bob Bowman, Kevin Barrett, Barbara Hunniger, I think we're even having some victims, family members.
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I mean, what are they going to do when one of the most respected Italian presidents ever, and the former head of their intelligence agency, says our government carried out 9-11?
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Yes, sir.
Hey, this is Jay.
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What's on your mind?
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We had an in-game and loose-change movie night last Friday.
We had a lot of skeptics show up.
And a lot of people came away really impacted, really moved, especially concerning the eugenics half of in-game.
And so it was a good turnout.
We had not a whole lot of people, about 40, but a good reception.
Hey, millions of people out there doing similar things to what you're doing is hundreds of millions.
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Also, when you posted the article, we got inspired, my friends and I, to start an anti-New World Order website.
So could we promote that?
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It's nicentruth.com, N-I-C-E-N-E, truth.com.
And I'd imagine you talk about imaginary NAFTA highways and stuff that are on all the government websites.
Well, we've just launched it, so we've only been on there a couple weeks.
We've got everything.
We've been talking a lot about the drones lately that are just everywhere.
By the way, you posted some articles about Houston, and there was one about what happened in Lexington, Kentucky.
There were drones everywhere.
And they're here in Tennessee, too.
They're all around Nashville.
Well, we're the cattle.
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We're the cattle, and this is the rogue government.
With systems that many of the helicopters have that look right through your walls just letting us know that they absolutely rule us.
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You're right about that.
We get into a lot of the religious issues, especially the coming one world religion.
And all the FEMA programs for pastors is all part of that.
Well, yeah, because once they set up the World Council of Churches with the Rockefellers, then they were able to get all of the different denominations for big donations from the World Council of Churches into that, and then they set the doctrine from there.
Exactly.
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Well, we interview him just about every year.
One of his new books comes out.
They've all been bestsellers.
Death of the West, years ago, was really one of the first big books to explain how we're going into a new world order, a North American union, how the West is imploding, what illegal immigration is really all about, sacrificing...
We're good to go.
We're good to go.
By conservatives.
I would also dovetail that now Dr. Corsi's book, of course, Late Great USA is a bestseller that dovetails nicely with my new film that just came out, Endgame, Blueprint for Global Enslavement, where we show the world leaders saying they're setting up an NAU, setting up and merging it with the European Union.
Bush with Merkel and Barroso of Europe just a few months ago saying it on C-SPAN.
I mean, this is...
They say one thing out of one side of their mouth and another thing out of the other side of their mouth.
And that's why we're really honored to have Pat Buchanan on because if people won't listen to me or Dr. Corsi and others, maybe they'll listen to Pat Buchanan.
Mr. Buchanan, thanks for coming on.
Appreciate it.
Thank you, Alex.
Let's first just run down the new book because there's a lot of topics you cover and this integrates in with the whole New World Order system.
But Day of Reckoning, break it down for us.
Well, there's a number of crises coming up the road at the United States, and it looks to me like a perfect storm.
You can start off with the dollar that's sinking very, very rapidly, the deindustrialization of America.
We lost one in six manufacturing jobs, three million of them in the last seven years.
We've had $5 trillion in trade deficits since NAFTA.
We've got a $233 billion trade deficit with China.
You've got a wide open border where six million people apparently came across in the last seven years.
That's about 800,000 invaders every year.
You've got no plan to secure that border on the part of the administration or either party.
A lot of talk.
You've got America tied down in Afghanistan and Iraq.
General Powell says the army is breaking, and yet we're committed to defend countries
We're good to go.
And we are not Americanizing or assimilating immigrants the way we used to.
We're encouraging them to maintain a separate language.
Spanish is becoming the second language in America.
I see the decomposition and the deconstruction of America and the eventual merger of the United States with Mexico.
And if we don't get the border fence built within the next 10 years, we will never get it built.
And I think there will be a de facto merger of this country with Mexico.
And that, to me, is the end of the sovereign, independent, unique, different United States of America.
Well, that's what the facts show, but then the mainstream controlled press, unless you or a few other people are on there, and you're maybe 1-2% of the news coverage out there, they say it doesn't exist, Ron Paul's delusional, there's no trans-Texas corridor,
I think?
We're good to go.
Here's what's happening, Alex.
Clearly, we're moving dramatically and openly toward this.
Take the Wall Street Journal.
You can Google the name Robert Bartley, conservative, neoconservative editorial editor of the Wall Street Journal for 30 years.
Put his name in and put five words.
There shall be open borders.
For 25 years, the Wall Street Journal editorial page, the neoconservative voice of the nation,
We're good to go.
I think?
And tourists, everybody travels back and forth at will.
This is going on.
What is happening is the project was advancing forward until the populist reaction, the same one that defeated the amnesty bill, rose up to the point where they said, well, this is just silly, this is paranoid.
But the truth is, once you integrate two economies, the ways ours are being integrated with NAFTA, and the post-NAFTA declaration is down there at Baylor University,
Inexorably.
Out of these merger, economic merger, rises a political entity.
Above it, maintain first and foremost the rules and regulations.
And this is how the common market, the six-nation common market of 19, or European coal and steel community of 1953...
How it evolved into this giant transnational government, the European Union, and only now are you seeing French and Dutch rejecting the new European Constitution, rising up, as Americans are rising up, to say thus far and no further.
We're going to roll this back.
We're not going to let these transnational governments rule our country.
The most important thing we have is our nation, and that is independent.
And that is unique and it is different.
And we don't want a shotgun marriage between the United States and Mexico.
Now, you're an expert political strategist, so I can pose this question to you, Pat.
We see a major realignment happening, whether Ron Paul wins or not.
Regardless, we're seeing new forms of political activism on the web, raising record amounts of money.
We're seeing the left even starting to wake up and join with libertarians, paleo-conservatives.
We're seeing Congress with an all-time low approval rating of 11%, the president with a 23%.
I mean, is that not a total realignment and a total implosion of the credibility of the government?
But then the big corporate elites, the transnationals that pretty much own both parties, they are just like they're running a steamroller, juggernauting forward, saying they don't care.
So, A, how big is this realignment?
And in the future, what collision do you see between swelling populism and nationalism from Europe to the United States to Australia?
How are they going to collide?
Well, I think they collided this year in the Senate bill where Senator Kennedy and President Bush and John McCain and Harry Reid and the Washington Post and the Wall Street Journal and La Raza and the Chamber of Commerce
All colluded for an amnesty for the 12 to 20 million illegal aliens here.
And not only that, buried in it was an amnesty, a complete exemption from all civil and criminal penalties of businesses who have hired, employed, knowingly illegal aliens.
So the whole idea was to basically legitimize the invasion that's taken place and to exonerate the businesses and the others involved
Who have hired these individuals and basically to give a benediction to the folks that let them in and refused to enforce the laws.
That tremendous uprising in the nation among the American people for the first time almost in my lifetime overthrew the establishment of both parties.
I fought against GATT.
I fought against NAFTA.
I fought against the WTO.
And we had great coalitions and we went up to the hill.
But we were driven off the hill by the establishment uniting and buying the votes of the congressmen.
This time, the force was so powerful, they were body slammed.
However, then the great coalition we formed together goes back home.
The battle is over, the war is won, but the other side is coming back again, working night and day and night and day.
Now, on this project, on the project of the Erasure of Borders and the Rest project,
A lot of them have gone underground, but it is undeniable that the transnational corporations want to get rid of borders everywhere.
They want the ability to move their trucks in and out with their goods in and out of the United States.
And they also want to remove...
It really is, but I think, see, we've been guarding against the New World Order coming through the UN and something like that, but Russia and China are not going to
Submit to the UN that everybody knows it is a corrupt institution, a bunch of third world thugs and people stealing money and all the rest of it.
But the real power coming is the corporations have enormous power.
Alex, of the top 100 entities in the country in terms of control of money and resources, half are corporations now and half are countries.
These transnational corporations
Their objective is to erase all these borders.
They work with legislatures incrementally.
Now, what's happening in the U.S., as I say, is they've gone underground, so to speak.
They've said, oh, this is silly in the United States.
You folks are paranoid.
Yeah, they've gone to stealth mode.
They've kind of submerged like a sub.
So what I'm asking you is, how do you see it playing out with your political acumen and gravitas?
I mean, give us two or three scenarios.
How do you see it playing out?
How I see it playing out, I think Ron Paul, his nomination, Ron, is outstanding in terms of awakening the establishment in Washington to a sentiment out there that people want their country back.
They want to get out of this new world order.
They want to get the troops home.
They want the borders secured.
They want to stop exporting jobs.
They want people to look out for America first.
It's the same issue that we used in 92, 96, and 2000, that phrase Ron Paul is using.
But now it's exponentially building, yes.
My concern is that the establishment, because it is working night and day, and it's minions down here in Washington and the K Street crowd and the rest of them who are working for these corporations, who are working for deeper integration of the United States and Europe and Japan and all the rest,
That they are still enormously powerful, and it's hard to see how we've got a political leader who's going to win the presidency, who is, A, aware of this, B, deeply concerned about it, and C, committed to blocking it at all costs and restoring and maintaining our national sovereignty.
Pat, what tips would you give Ron Paul in his run for president?
I think Ron Paul's doing a great job.
He doesn't need my counsel right now.
I would say he's probably better off focusing on New Hampshire,
Than Iowa, because the Iowa thing is pretty much based on organization.
I agree.
I think he's going to do fine in Iowa, but I think he's got a real chance to do very well in New Hampshire, because I think a number of people will probably be eliminated in Iowa.
And Ron Paul won't.
He's got the resources now to go.
One piece of advice I'd give him, stay in this thing.
Stay in this thing.
Do not let them run you out if you lose Iowa and lose New Hampshire.
You keep taking that message to the country, and you keep demanding debates.
My guess is you'll be cut out of the debates.
Not cut out, but they won't hold debates once you break out of New Hampshire.
They're fairly rare, but stay in those debates with those guys.
And keep your voice in that screen, because when they start cutting you out of the debates, then the country says, well, he's out of it, and let's look at what's left.
So that's what I advise him to do, but he's run a fine campaign.
Pat Buchanan, I want to shift gears and get more back into your book, Day of Reckoning, that just hit bookstore shelves just in time for Christmas.
But before we do that, the John Warner Defense Authorization Act, word for word says Bush is over the states for domestic insurrection and rebellion.
His PDD-51 says he's above Congress and continuity of government.
Then he went to Canada three months ago, and I have the declaration.
This was public.
It said the U.N.
is over the U.S.
during massive terror attacks or biological chemical releases.
The Houston Chronicle is reporting they've built detention centers for the American people.
They are federalizing more and more of the police.
This is now a reality.
They had Tommy Franks on the payroll.
Running around saying, after one more attack, we go to martial law.
I reported this a year and a half ago, it just came out two months ago, that preachers have been hired, 26,000 of them, and paid, I don't know if you're aware of this, to go tell their flocks to turn their guns in if they're told and submit to inoculations.
The police state, which Hillary or whoever comes into power can use as well.
I mean, can you speak to the type of attack, Gonzalez saying there's no habeas corpus for citizens?
Well, if he said that point blank, that's a constitutional right of every American citizen.
And I know Lincoln suspended it on his own volition.
During the Civil War, but it takes the Congress of the United States to do that.
Remember, he was in the Senate, and he said, well, yeah, you don't necessarily as a citizen have a habeas corpus.
You do have it.
I mean, what's preposterous, and there is in the Constitution, the Congress can suspend it at certain times, but I don't believe this Congress is going to do that.
Well, Pat, here's what I'm saying.
PDD 51, I'm sure you've seen it, came out May 9th.
I mean, the government doesn't start announcing and developing and funding these things for no reason.
Why do you think that's being done?
You are more familiar with this, I'll be honest, than I have, than I am, but I find it extraordinarily... I don't believe a country that rose up the way we did against that amnesty is going to go gentle into that good night.
I just don't believe that, and I don't think the government, and I know there are folks in the military and others like that who aren't going to go along with anything like that, and I really am dubious that Bush or Cheney are going to try anything like that or anybody that went in there.
I would try that now.
I know what Tommy Frank said, I believe, was that if there's another 9-11, in effect, we might pass legislation, basically, that interferes with the civil liberties of the American people.
And I don't doubt if you had something like several 9-11s here, you would have a very changed society.
There's no doubt about it.
And people might willingly... Pat, let's shift gears here.
Sure, let's shift gears into something else right before break.
Bush is appointing a bunch of former Clinton people to the State Department and Pentagon, as you know.
They are giving her speech writing lessons, telling her what the talking points are.
Fox News and others have reportedly been behind her.
She's gotten double defense contractor money.
Is she the heir apparent?
Barack Obama doesn't think so.
Look, I do think, I would have guessed as of,
Two months ago that Hillary Clinton would be the next president of the United States.
As of about, I'd say, eight months ago, I would have said it's going to be John McCain.
Now, I don't know.
I think there's a chance.
I mean, it's not for sure, but the way she's reacting, the way she seems to be panicking, the way she's attacking Barack Obama for what he said in kindergarten...
There's a sense in my mind that she's panicking a little bit over Iowa.
Now, if she loses Iowa and wins New Hampshire, she's a Democratic nominee.
But what I'm asking is, why have Republicans, certainly you know this, why have they been trying to position her?
I think many of them think she'll probably be the easiest person to beat.
That's why a lot of them are attacking her.
Pat Buchanan, stay there.
Final segment with you.
I want to talk more about the book and how the illegal aliens are pulling down American flags at post offices, public schools, and how the media tries to cover this up.
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He's the author of the New York Times best-selling Death of the West, the new book Day of Reckoning.
And you talk about hubris, greed, the rest of it, Pat.
The establishment knows that they're using these illegal aliens and the tens of millions of legals as well to break down sovereignty so the corporates can control this country.
But as you said, there's a huge realignment happening.
Where do you see this going?
Well, you know, we're going to have to wait and see in the election.
Ron Paul is a wonderful man to have out there, and you've got Tom Tancredo who is courageous on the borders, and frankly on the borders and on sovereignty and on trade.
I think you're either going to have Hillary or Barack Obama on one side, and my guess would be Romney or Rudy or Huckabee on the other.
That's a guess.
Fred Thompson's a good man, but I find it hard to see where he's going to win his first primary.
So, I mean, that's the real power center of the White House.
So what happens in the next four or five years if Democrats do get in?
They have a very low approval rating, too.
It just seems the revolution for liberty is just going to grow.
I think you're right.
I think, you know, that is an excellent point, Alex.
It's this.
Look, these people are out of touch.
The amnesty bill showed how far out of touch they are.
If Hillary gets in, there'll be the, quote, path to citizenship.
The security fence will not be built.
There'll be some lax enforcement of the immigration laws.
And the firestorm will build.
This is not going away.
This illegal alien issue is not going away.
Where do you see Iraq?
Where do you see Iraq going?
I think we're going to find out when we bring home those five combat brigades.
Clearly, Petraeus has succeeded in what he has done so far, and he's pacified Baghdad, or helped pacify it, and we've armed the Sunni militias out there, but what those fellows are going to do once they take care of Al-Qaeda, who they're coming after, we're going to find out.
My hope is, and it's a hope, is that we leave something standing over there that is united in at least some way, and is at least pro-Western.
But that is a hope more than it is an expectation.
Pat, in closing, the White House put this out three months ago.
It had been in the news three years ago that they're hiring admitted number three men in al-Qaeda.
They have four different groups attacking the Iranians, and the news says the Iranians are al-Qaeda, where they're the opposite group, Shiite.
And you've got all these different warlords armed.
I mean, it's just going to go on and on, which was the original strategy that Israel wanted in the 80s was to go in and break Iraq up in three parts.
Well, the rack will break.
If they get a big all... You know, this is... There's a sort of a neocon agenda just to get the whole thing to radicalize, dump it all over, and, you know, upset the whole chess table and throw all the pieces on the floor.
And I think that could be one of the results of this, the complete balkanization of that region.
Look what's happened!
I mean, before India broke apart, we saw Pakistan break apart.
Iran's in danger of breaking apart.
They've got problems in Balochistan.
Is the neocon agenda, though, stalling?
Worldwide, they have lost any soft power they had.
Well, that's exactly right.
And frankly, they've lost a lot of the hard power they had here in the United States.
And frankly, with this report from the intelligence estimate, I don't think Bush has got the ability to launch the war on Iran.
That the neoconservatives have been plotting and planning and propagandizing for months.
So they're completely blown.
Not completely blown.
They've got the ability to slide back.
So you think the neocons may stay in power?
They attach them.
The neocons don't win elections.
They attach themselves to winners.
And I think in the Republican Party, some of the Republicans, Rudy Giuliani is totally neocon foreign policy advisers.
So you're against Giuliani?
Well, you know, I'm certainly not endorsing Rudy.
Absolutely.
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Thank you very much.
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We're talking about the new world order in this hour.
We're talking about the European Union, its strategy of stealth, strategy of stealth integration of the North American continent, this new trade deal that Bush just got.
Signed with Peru, a big victory for the globalists in a string of defeats.
Dr. Corsi is one of the leading scholars on our side against the North American Union, and I wanted to get him on.
At the bottom of the hour, we'll open the phones up on the North American Union.
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Specifically, I'm asking to talk about these issues.
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I wanted to get Dr. Corsi on today to give us an update on Ramos and Campion as well, the Valiant Border Patrol agents being framed and set up.
But before we do that, I want to get into the North American Union and...
CNN saying Ron Paul's a liar that the Trans-Texas Corridor doesn't exist when there's the official Trans-Texas Corridor state website with the feds.
They say it's part of the Napa Superhighway.
I have the federal government saying it.
I have the Canadian government here in front of me.
It says NAFTA trade corridors, NAFTA superhighways.
I mean, and I know I keep responding to this because, folks, we've got to get out and warn the public.
That this is a massive hoax, and if we use this hoax they perpetrated as a way to discredit them as an opportunity, we can save this country.
If we let them engage in this hoax and win, they're going to be able to go ahead and finish this thing up.
Dr. Corsi, thanks for coming on.
Alex, great pleasure to be with you.
And I'm just writing a piece right now for World Met Daily tomorrow.
You know, this Newsweek, the current issue, this Gretel Kovach issue,
Did a hit piece on Ron Paul and on World Night Daily and me on this.
You know, Ron Paul at the debate, the CNN debate, responded to the question about the North American Union by affirming that the globalists were planning to create a North American Union.
And he referred to the NAFTA superhighway and used evidence.
You know, Governor Perry vetoing the trans-Texas corridor, the legislation that was going to block the trans-Texas corridor.
Governor Perry must have vetoed six bills that the Texas legislature almost unanimously passed.
And he vetoed those bills just before the legislature went out of session or when it was out of session.
Yeah, he vetoed imaginary bills.
Yeah, right, exactly.
And these bills were going to put a two-year moratorium on the trans-Texas corridor.
They were going to
But I mean, here's the big question.
We're going to walk through all this evidence after the break.
Just a year ago, they were saying NAFTA superhighway's good.
SPP's good.
Now they're just saying none of it exists.
I mean, why do you think they've shifted?
Well, I think it's been an orchestrated effort.
I can see it from the White House.
I mean, this traces back to when George Bush at Montebello at the SPP meeting was asked that question by the Fox News reporter whether the Security and Prosperity Partnership was going to lead to a North American Union and NAFTA superhighways.
And Bush did not answer the question.
He didn't say, here's the reason it could never happen.
He just poo-pooed it and said, well, it's a conspiracy theory.
And, you know, the problem is, Alex, we've known since the days of ancient Greek rhetoric that ridicule is the last refuge of a scoundrel in a debate.
When President Bush could not answer the question by logic or evidence or argumentation, he called us all a name.
That's, you know, an attempt to have people not listen to what we're saying and
But it doesn't answer the question.
Ridicule is a low form of argumentation.
We have thousands of government websites, Mexico, Canada, U.S.
saying it, billboards everywhere pushing the trans-Texas corridor, Perry saying it, now they're saying that doesn't exist?
What does CNN and Fox and MSNBC think Texans are going to do when they see the billboards everywhere and they're announcing it, and Perry's having press conferences and CNN says it doesn't exist?
Well, and I've got 30 pages in the late great U.S.A.,
And as you know, they document the websites in which all this is happening.
Government websites.
We'll be right back with Dr. Jerome Corsi to go over the evidence for those that may not know specifically what it is.
I don't have time to play the Parliament and Canada and legislatures and Vicente Fox and Pastor admitting it all.
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Now, I'm not trying to beat a horse to death here, but this is the big issue.
You find out that in 57 with the Treaty of Rome...
They set up the European Union.
They just had the 50th anniversary this year.
Everybody thought it started in 2000, but they had the 50th anniversary this year.
We've now gotten the founding documents and internal debates of the European Union.
It was a strategy of stealth.
It was a secretive implementation.
And then the CFR writes books and puts out policy reports, and the editors of Time Magazine write articles about it, and they say it's all great and good, and literally thousands of quotes stating it and saying it and merging the bureaucracies.
And then they use this military tactic of cloaking, of just flat-out lying.
And Dr. Corsi, do you agree we need to press this issue and maybe challenge these Boston Globe writers to debates?
I think I should have tried to get that going with you to force the issue out into the open because this is actually an opportunity for those of us that know how to go to the official government websites and know how to look at billboards and know how to... Oh!
And here's another point before I forget.
I mean, I want you to comment on that.
Is this an opportunity right now?
And then secondarily, earlier this year, you wrote about businesses in the Southwest and Texas who have employees getting state labor department forms demanding that they sign up with the North American new ID.
Well, guess what?
I've got eight employees here in Austin, and I got that last week, sir.
Demanding I fill out all these questions for this new organization, no longer reporting through the state to the federal Department of Labor, but now to this new international body.
Yes, we've got now North American job classifications, and it's been reorganized.
I've been writing about it.
To answer your first question, Alex, I'm going after Newsweek in an article that I hope to be published on Thursday or Friday, tomorrow or Friday, in WorldNetDaily.
I mean, I've just got off the phone.
Newsweek wrote this piece
Again, ridiculing Ron Paul in the debate and ridiculing me for proposing this NAFTA superhighway in the North American Union.
I just got off the phone with State Senator Randy Brogdon in Oklahoma and he just said, you know, Senate Joint Resolution 22 was submitted to the Oklahoma Legislature in 1995 and it called for the creation of a NAFTA superhighway by name.
I'm going to get a hold of that Senate Joint Resolution 22 this afternoon, and I'll be able to post that and link to it on the site.
But, I mean, there's plenty of evidence.
Randy Brogdon's been fighting for two years in the state legislature to block laws that have been introduced to extend the Trans-Texas Corridor North.
I mean, that's evidence right there.
There's dozens of government websites.
I'll give you another couple of quotes here.
I mean, Amanda Teegarden, who...
...is head of Oklahoma OK Safe.
I spoke to the OK Safe group.
It's a non-profit group set up in Oklahoma, also dedicated to block the Trans-Texas Corridor coming north.
A couple months ago, I spoke to 300 people in Tulsa on a Saturday that OK Safe had organized.
And, you know, Amanda Teegarden is writing me saying, why is Newsweek resorting to name-calling?
This author says it's paranoia.
But she doesn't have a degree in psychology.
How can she make that diagnosis?
This is an organized campaign, Alex.
President Bush starts it.
He says down and up in the meeting in Montebello, Quebec, it's asked by a Fox News reporter, third summit meeting of the Security and Prosperity Partnership, if SPP is going to lead to a North American Union or national superhighways.
And President Bush says that's just a conspiracy theory.
So now then we get a bunch of articles.
I think that word went out from the White House to attack this by ridiculing it.
And, you know, Michael Medved has been launching this crusade on the radio, tirade.
But here's the problem.
We'll talk about that in a moment, Dr. Corsi.
I mean, I literally get 10, 15 emails a day from different government, state websites, official announcements.
These are pro-Napta Superhighway.
But, I mean, here's one today.
Alberta government...
Yes, I saw that.
And it's infratrans.gov.ab.ca, and it calls it the NAFTA Superhighway, and it shows I-35, the Camino Real Road, the Canamex.
These are all the same official maps.
They say it's already being built.
But then we go to their website and go, look, the government.
The government says, and they go, you're crazy.
That doesn't exist.
Well, take a look at this Newsweek article, because if you go through it,
There were comments posted in Newsweek.
There were 65 comments posted, and every one of these comments was critical in a Newsweek article.
People say, this is why I canceled my subscription to Newsweek 10 years ago.
They say this reporter didn't do her homework and didn't do her research.
The people commenting and responding to this Newsweek article on the Newsweek website are linking to the Council on Foreign Relations report on building a North American union.
They're linking to the Trans-Texas Corridor website.
They're linking to when Vincenti Fox was with Larry King
Promoting his book, and he said on the Larry King Live show, he admitted that there was a plan to create a regional currency out of NAFTA.
Well, that's the issue here, is that mainstream newspapers, mainstream magazines, TV, their ratings are all imploding.
They're now saying that Ron Paul and others, they've named you, I've got a bunch of these newscasts where they say, quote, he is a figment of his imagination, he's mentally ill.
And Ron Paul drives around on Texas roads where the signs are everywhere, put up by the state.
I mean, this is such a bold hoax, Dr. Corsi.
What I think, Alex, is it's a coordinated attack.
I think it comes out of the White House to find reporters, Newsweek.
We've had a hit piece in Nation magazine and other reporters saying the NAFTA highway didn't exist.
We've had that piece in Boston Globe.
I think the White House is doing everything it can to recruit people on this theme to write about that this is a hoax, that the After Superhighway doesn't exist.
And it's in large part because we're being as successful as we are at getting people to look at the evidence.
I've got 30 pages in the late great USA with government footnotes in there.
And I did it on the theme, Alex, that it's like the country western song.
You know, it's the woman finds the husband in bed with another woman.
And before the lying starts, the husband says, dear, this is not what you'd think it is.
We're going to get the explanation he's just giving dictation.
It's a little bit cold in the room.
The wife's got a choice.
She can believe what her husband's going to tell her or her own lying eyes.
And I'm confident that when the American public take the time to look at the government websites, the denials that are coming out for the government are going to look
You know, like lies and just an effort to hide the truth, which is what it is.
Well, Dr. Cordese, what, four or five months ago, they said you can't see the Senate.
Amnesty bill, it's secret, but just trust us.
This bill would normally be public, but we're making it secret for the first time in U.S.
history.
And then when Senator Sessions leaked it, it was worse.
And Pat Buchanan just agreed in the last hour, didn't agree, brought it up himself, that it was literally a pardon for criminals, both employers and aggravated felony legal aliens.
And so they got caught lying on that.
And so just more and more, this seems like total desperation.
How about the Trans-Texas Corridor?
The Texas Department of Transportation refused for the longest time to publish the agreement they'd made with Cintra, C-I-N-T-R-A, the investment consortium in Spain that's going to put this highway in place.
And finally, a lawsuit forced the Texas Department of Transportation to publish the agreement.
And when it was published, it was shocking.
The non-compete agreements, the concessions that Central was going to get revenue promised by this highway.
It's just a handover for campaign contributions of the infrastructure.
And the campaign doesn't trace the campaign contributions.
Perry has gotten...
Strong campaign contributions, not just from Sintra and Zachary, the construction firm that's going to build the highway, but from Bracewell and Giuliani.
Go check how many contributions Bracewell and Giuliani have made to Governor Perry.
And that's the law firm of Rudy Giuliani that is the sole legal representative of Sintra and the United States.
But if you ask Rudy Giuliani about NAFTA superhighways, he's going to deny it, too.
They don't want anybody looking into the money trail.
But I go back to this.
How can CNN and several other cable networks say that the trans-Texas corridor...
Well, it's ridiculous, because CNN's also got Lou Dobbs on it, and Lou Dobbs has been strongly on this theme, you know, supporting the idea that North American Union and the NAFTA superhighways are realities.
Did you see the report where they had, like, six talking heads on there, all in little squares like the Brady Bunch, and they were all laughing and saying, these people are nuts?
Well, they had a similar thing.
Brit Hume had a similar thing.
With, you know, Charles Krautheimer and the others in this round table on the light show on Fox, and Krautheimer sitting there saying, oh, none of this is true, and then admitting he went to a Bilderberger conference.
I mean, sure, it's nothing going on there, but why did he go to the Bilderberg Conference?
And how does anybody know that there was nothing going on when those records are also kept secret and not allowed to be published?
Well, Dr. Kors, you remember 10 years ago when they would say in the news that the Bilderberg didn't exist?
Right.
It all didn't exist, and now we've got the list of attendees.
We've got some of the meeting agendas.
You know, I've got another book fully documenting it.
There's this book that Estulin just wrote.
I thought it was an excellent book documenting the attendance of the burger builder groups and their agendas.
Alex, I just wrote an article about the North American Forum meeting that went on in Cancun.
Oh, exactly.
And they've had joint sessions of Congress down there.
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Don't forget that they formed the European Union by stealth, and I guess they'll deny it exists next.
And then they keep trying to get England to join.
They try to package it under different laws, different treaties, and the people keep saying no.
And the documents have come out that they have a stealth approach there.
It's called deception.
And they're doing it here.
It doesn't matter if they've had joint sessions of Congress in Mexico.
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You watch these on C-SPAN.
They come right out and say it's all happening.
Dr. Corsi, break it down.
I mean, there's a great book, Christopher Booker and Richard North, called The Great Deception.
It's an exhaustive treatment of how the European Union was formed, and it documents the stealth plan.
They have John Monet, who knew he wanted to, he's a Frenchman, he didn't want Germany to rise up with another army.
Thought he needed to end the sovereignty of Germany.
But he couldn't announce that, so he started with the Coal and Steel Agreement in 1957, figuring if Europe controlled the coal and steel, Germany could not have another army, and believing that the economic agreements would lead to the regional necessity for political, legal, and judicial structures that would solve the international trade disputes the European common market would necessitate happening.
And all through this, the strategy in Europe was to deny
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And that's the same strategy that is being taken right now by the Bush administration and those who have this North American integration effort.
I mean, you know, just this past week I wrote about the North American forum.
George Shultz having another meeting.
Robert Pastor attending it from American University down in Cancun, a closed-door session.
And again, we got the agenda of the meetings.
And the meeting is all about North American integration.
Where do we go from here?
What are the economic consequences of North American integration?
It was an active agenda, again attended by the same people who attended the Banff meeting.
We published there the agenda.
We published the attendee list of the Banff meeting, which was for integration of North America.
The websites abound.
I mean, go to spp.gov.
I've published in page 81 of the book the organizational chart of the SPP working groups reporting up to three cabinet secretaries in each government and into the White House through the National Security Council and the Homeland Security Council to the president.
But I got that chart, the organizational chart, from a Freedom of Information Act request.
The federal government doesn't publish it anywhere.
And, you know, if I can get the chart through a Freedom of Information Act request...
But it's not published.
That, to me, is the documentation of a shadow government trilateral bureaucracy already in place.
Why is the government ashamed to publish the organizational chart of the SPP working groups that it uses internally?
I mean, it's disgraceful.
And then to deny, if you go to SPP.gov, you get the denials, this versus SACS,
It says that all this is is a dialogue between three countries.
I've got 2,000 pages in my file drawer of emails, memos, and meetings that SPP.gov has held.
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And, you know, the deniers want you to believe that if you click that SPP.gov website the right way, it's going to start playing you Bobby McFerrin music.
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Well, that's what they're doing.
And if you go to the SVP site, they'll have a debunking myth section that lies, but then right there on their own site is all the facts.
Read that.
Right.
Go to read the 2005 and 2006 report to the leaders.
Look for the discussion of the trusted traders and trusted travelers.
You'll see their preparation to start issuing what will amount to a North American passport.
North American Union passport is right there.
Have you heard the state of Manitoba's
State of the State address where the head of the legislature just says, we're merging, it's wonderful, and he just says it all.
Yeah, it's been on the internet.
I've watched it two or three times now.
Also, I mean, go to SPP.gov and there's Trusted Trader, Trusted Traveler.
I have an article today in World Met Daily about the Mexican trucks again.
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We've now got about 10 Mexican trucking companies sending their rigs north on all this SPP-approved fast lanes.
And I documented today the Owner Operators Trucking Association, Oneida,
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And they document hundreds of safety violations of these Mexican trucks.
But they're still coming across the border every day.
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But then those trucks don't exist either.
But really, the tactic the establishment is using is denying all this so we spend our time proving it exists instead of just removing it.
Let's talk about ways to dismantle this, Dr. Corsi.
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Going back to Dr. Courtesy and then to the loaded phones, Dr. Courtesy, going into the break...
I wanted to know your ideas for solutions.
I mean, all day we sit here and try to prove it to the people.
The people are starting to wake up to it.
How do we put this into action?
Because I know through different international agreements, they come in and set up regulatory systems at the county, city, state level.
They fly our city managers, county commissioners, the National Association of Counties, governors.
I think Alex is starting at a grassroots level.
We've got some 14 states at the past resolution saying no North American unions, no NAFTA superhighways,
We've got legislators like Randy Brogdon in Oklahoma and groups like Oklahoma Safe, which is organizing to block the NAFTA Superhighway, the Trans-Texas Corridor, from coming into Oklahoma.
The grassroots are, I think, where the difference is going to be made.
And as people, as we go into what I strongly suspect is going to be a very serious economic downturn, a major recession that we're headed into, is millions of people lose their homes.
What Alan Blinder does,
Economist at Princeton who advised Bill Clinton to get NAFTA passed, he said we're going to lose 40 million jobs in the next two decades, largely to China and to India on this outsourcing to slaves.
I think as people lose their jobs, as states like Ohio and Michigan, you know, become echoes of their former selves, look like Appalachia as Chrysler goes over and
works with Cherry, this Chinese company to manufacture cars and shuts down car manufacturing in Detroit.
These are going to impact people's lives and these suffering, these economic hardships as the middle class gets disassembled in the United States.
People are going to wake up and say there's got to be a reason for this.
You know, there's 10% of Mexico's population living in the United States.
By the way, that's off the Fed's own numbers, which are probably twice that.
Even the Fed's numbers say it's going to be 20% in 2010.
I didn't vote for 10% of Mexico's population to live here.
Nobody did.
It's a fait accompli created in the incremental method.
And as people see this and say, why are we six years into a war on terror and our borders aren't yet secured?
Why are we letting Mexican trucks come across the border
When President Bush wants to give $1.4 billion to Mexico... And Dr. Corsi, isn't that... ...to fight the drug war?
Exactly.
Isn't that why they're rushing right now to try to get the MSU, to try to get the Napa Superhighway in?
Because they know that their window of opportunity is closing because as their globalist policies hurt the people, that's going to form more resistance.
And I think... Yes, it is.
And I think...
Alex, the reason we're getting this blowback about conspiracy theory is that there's two things.
One, the globalists pushing this agenda are being hurt by the exposure.
Exposure, I think both now President Bush and Stephen Harper are afraid to come out and openly support SPP, and I challenge them to do that or close it down.
They won't do it because they know they'll lose political capital just mentioning SPP.
George Bush does not stop talking about Mexico.
You know, if we go into the elections in 2008, and Ramos and Compi on the Border Patrol agents, they're still in prison.
The Republican Party is going to lose the White House and two-thirds of the House and Senate.
And it isn't going to be because people like Democrats.
You know, if Hillary Clinton gets elected, I'm saying she'll be another globalist, Bush-Clinton dynasty.
So let her get inaugurated on January 20th.
Let's start the impeachment proceedings on January 21st.
All right, let's shift gears in the economy, because I know, real fast, give folks your credentials on what's happening with the markets.
Well, I mean, I've had a Harvard Ph.D.
in political science.
I've studied economics, including at Harvard.
I have
All the NASD, National Security Association licenses, I've created two broker-dealers.
I've worked 25 years in financial services with banks around the world.
Well, I know your info is spot on.
I just wanted to put that back out.
You're saying the same thing, Ron Paul, same thing Dr. Paul Greg Roberts is saying.
And if we've got derivatives, by the way, at over $1,000 trillion, I mean, the banks... The derivatives, it's hard to know how massive the derivatives are.
But even with the...
Even with the subprime collateralized loan obligations from the housing industry and the collateralized loan obligations from commercial paper, Alex, I think that half of the banks in the United States, including some of the largest ones like Citibank, if they had to mark these collateralized mortgage obligations and debt obligations, these securities they're holding in their asset portfolio, they wouldn't have the reserves that they need to continue operating.
Half the banks in the United States today, if they had to honestly mark their assets to market with all this junk securities on debt obligations that they're holding, half the banks would have to admit we don't have the capital to keep going.
But subprime is just the beginning.
Now states are demanding tens of billions back because they're finding out that the big brokerage houses and others have sold them supposed AAA corporate paper that's actual trash.
That's correct.
And it's not just the mortgages.
They did this in the commercial paper market where the corporations were going to buy and leverage buyouts or leverage purchases of other companies or finances.
They gave AAA paper ratings to junk bonds and corporate bonds that should have been rated junk because they packaged them together in these securities.
Wall Street sold them.
Well, you talk about a bad recession.
This could gyrate into...
This could be worse than the Depression.
You've got probably three to six trillion dollars of bad collateralized securities that are held today by banks, pension funds,
And other institutional investors that are worthless.
And this scrofulous pustule that's only going to be described is now risen to quite a height.
When do you see it finally popping?
Well, it's happening right now.
I mean, when Citibank has to go to Abu Dhabi and get $7.5 billion to keep in business to promise them an 11% return on that investment and give them a percentage of Citibank in the process,
I mean, this is, I think what they got, 7.5% of Citibank, and Abu Dhabi gave them $20 billion with some transactions of that nature.
That's a desperation transaction.
That's a we can't continue in business unless we bring in the petrodollars.
It's selling out the United States to foreign interest because Citibank is broke.
And as you know, big investment firms are coming in and buying that AAA paper now at the top at 26 cents on the dollar.
And, you know, you've got funds out there.
We've got even China with our massive trade deficits and all our companies going madly to buy, you know, get Chinese slaves to produce the goods.
It's immoral and bad business.
China's now got $1.4 trillion in foreign exchange reserves.
80% of it's in dollars.
They've announced they don't want to hold so many dollars.
And it's clearly accelerating in the worsening climate.
When do you see it hitting a point where it really descends quickly?
Middle next year?
Early next year?
I think it's happening right now.
The stock market has already twice gone over $14,000 and then started trading down to where it's been under $13,000.
Right now today...
We're good to go.
We're good to go.
And it'll be openly admitted that we're in a recession.
What happens when the credit card debt average of $25,000 plus per person comes in?
What happens when all these other leveraged negative securities, you know, where they're loaning out ten times the money off of debts?
It's a house of cards.
I mean, what happens in that?
It's going to collapse.
And we're in a dilemma.
Right now, Wall Street, turn on CNBC.
They're begging Wall Street.
You know, Wall Street's begging the Fed to lower the Fed funds rate again.
They've done it twice now.
And now they're putting out, now they're saying... If they do it again, the dollar will further collapse.
And now they're saying, I'm sure you saw all the articles this week, now they're claiming cutting interest rates is good for the dollar.
Have you seen that news?
Well, that's just nonsense, because the dollar is at the lowest point it's ever been against the euro.
The dollar is close to in full collapse.
But that's what I mean.
Why are they now saying things that even laymen know that cutting interest rates will drive the dollar down?
And then they go, no, it's good.
Well, they've come, you know, the government has taken lying as a public policy.
It's like when they report inflation in a consumer price index.
They've taken out energy and food when they report core inflation.
If they were reporting today...
This Consumer Price Index, the government reported that the way they did in the 1980s, the same formulas, they'd have to be telling people we have 12% to 14% inflation right now.
That's conservative.
I mean, go fill your gas tank.
That's conservative.
You know, if it doesn't cost $65 or $75 to get a tank of gas, you know, that's shocking, and that's where we're at, and they're saying we're at zero inflation or 2% is a lie.
Let's take some calls.
Leo and Mash, but quickly, you're on the air with Dr. Corsi.
Mr. Corsi?
Yes, sir.
Are you familiar with the background people who run WorldNetDaily?
What do you want to say?
I noticed that they publicized a sort of Zionist-type missive, and then I called them on it, and I got no response.
And then I noticed that they have an Israel oil banner on their site.
Well, sir... I mean, I don't know where you're going with this.
It sounds like you're anti-Israel.
I think they're Zionists, and you don't realize... Okay, I heard you.
Thank you very much.
I appreciate your comment.
Yeah, Leo, listen, I asked politely at the start of the interview, not because I thought somebody like you would call in, that I want to talk about the North American Union, the economy, the state of the country.
Okay, and Dr. Corsi writes for Human Events, World Net Daily, a bunch of other stuff.
He's writing about this.
We've got him on about that.
You can get 20 different flavors on World Net Daily, and it just does nothing to sit here and do that, okay?
Joe in Chicago, you're on the air.
Go ahead.
Yeah, Alex.
Thank you for taking my call.
Yes.
I was going to say, Dr. Corsi already brought him up.
It was the disc jockey, Michael Medvek.
I've listened to his show a few times to get the other side of what their propaganda is being spread.
He mentioned if he would give up his show for a day, if someone could come on and prove there was...
...effort to form a North American union.
But see, that's a huckster scam.
Money-back guarantee, whatever.
That's a scam where he just acts like no one can disprove it, and then he'll just say they haven't proven it satisfactorily to him.
Dr. Corsi?
He won't schedule me as a guest on that show.
He says if I want to call in, I can call in like anybody else.
Well, I'm not going to call in when he can unplug it.
If he wants to schedule me as a guest, I'm scheduled on hundreds of radio shows.
He won't directly argue the issue.
He wants to name call and go into rants and raves.
And my answer to that is, you know, there's doctors who can handle that problem if he's got, you know, anger control or emotional problems.
Here's the deal.
Look, here's the deal.
That twit Medved is a hack for the White House and the neocons, and he can just continue to say it doesn't exist when the base of his audience knows it does.
I mean, he's only hurting himself, Doctor.
Well, you know, it's pathetic to have to engage in such name-calling in order to advance an argument.
I'm saying there are issues here, there's facts, there's evidence, and I'm happy to discuss the evidence on an honest basis.
That's what Michael Medved will not do anymore than George Bush will do, and the American people are looking at the footnotes
You know, in late great USA, they're going to the government websites and they're believing their own lying eyes.
Sure.
Anything else, Jim?
Well, I just would agree with the doctor.
He just said that Michael does go into rants.
He does go into name calling.
He actually now has gotten down to where he's mentioned you, Alex, and he's played the trailer to Endgame for you.
So we are getting your name through him.
Out there.
So I think we'll just keep as a listener, keep prodding and poking them with our forces on our end and leave the doctor his time.
What did he say about Endgame?
Well, he used that as a...
Just what a kook you are, I guess, and that you're predicting the end of the time, so to speak.
No, that's not what I'm doing.
I'm saying the people running the UN and running these globalist organizations openly in all their documents say they want to forcibly reduce world population by 80%.
Well, he's a boy, not a 90 or some BS, but... But see, everybody knows about Dr. Bianca and Peter Singer and all these people.
Well, as you say, he don't want to face the truth.
And also, real quick, I think people should check out the website of Stop the North American Union if they get a chance.
Sure, sure.
We'll be right back with more calls, Dr. Corsi.
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There's no such thing.
It's just all over the news.
These people, hey, it's coming to an end.
People know who you are now, you scumbag Schwarzenegger, scumbag Bloomberg, Hillary, Bush, all of them.
You're New World Order trash.
Jared in Wisconsin, you're on the air with the author of The Late Great USA, available at Infowars.com, discounted right now.
And I hope you will get it, because I want to win this war.
And that book is pure documentation.
Jared, you're on the air with Dr. Corsi.
Go ahead, quickly, please.
Well, I just want to mention about their, uh... Is that, uh...
There was a presidential debate back in September.
It didn't get a lot of media coverage.
It was a value voter debate where none of the frontrunners were there.
All the second-tier people were there, Huckabee and them.
Yes.
And they asked a question about the North American Union there, and they all answered it, and all of them were aware of it and said they opposed it.
Yet in that mainstream CNN debate, they tried to make Ron Paul look like a lone nut
Like the only one who would even think something that crazy.
It just shows how bankrupt they are.
Thanks for the call, Dr. Corsi.
And that question was asked by Phyllis Schlafly, who is an extremely prominent, well-respected conservative who for decades has led conservative causes.
And Phyllis Schlafly asked the question at the value debate about the North American Union.
And Ron Paul, by the way, was there as in the CNN debate.
Equally strong.
I think the attempt to ridicule just shows that the damage is being done and the word is getting out.
And now, what the White House wants to do is kind of put the lid on this by ridiculing it, but it doesn't answer the question.
It doesn't refute the government website, and it doesn't stop the North American integration that's going on.
I mean, we've twice now blocked the shamnesty bill from going through the Senate, but yet the border is still wide open.
Exactly.
But they tell you it isn't.
They tell us everything's better, but the feds on census say it's accelerating.
Tom in Ohio, you're on the air.
Can you hear me?
Go ahead.
Yes, sir.
Tom, go ahead.
Yeah, what I don't understand is, you know,
It's crazy.
So, I mean, what can we do on the grassroots level?
Run for county commissioner.
Run for city council.
Give them Dr. Corsi's late great USA.
Educate movers and shakers in your area.
That's better than educating a thousand other folks.
Do you agree, Corsi?
I think you've got to work at the grass level.
Yeah, I agree.
Go to your city councils.
Talk to your state legislators.
I'll help them get a resolution in the state to block the North American Union and adapt to superhighways.
I'm going to jam one more in.
Fred in Philly.
Last caller.
Go ahead.
Dr. Corsi, did you say that you were able to get the organizational chart or you're going to get it?
No, we have the organizational chart.
It's in Endgame.
It's in Late Great USA.
I think another thing you can do, and I've been doing it, is I've been confronting Department of Commerce executives
Have you heard of Jerry C. Ward?
Yes, she is the Department of Commerce administrator who's in charge of the SPP working groups.
She's the chief one coordinating the information.
I asked someone at the Department of Commerce, she's got a Korean name, I don't have it in front of me, what is the legal authority for SPP, and she had
She basically spent ten minutes evading that answer.
Pepper them with those and don't take their nonsense for answers.
Make them answer the question you ask.
Yeah, call them, email them, call them when they're on talk shows, call them to other talk shows.
Make a lot of noise and never stop.
We don't have any chance if you don't, ladies and gentlemen, and we've got the initiative.
Dr. Corsi, I want to thank you for coming on with us.
Always a pleasure, Alex.
Anytime.
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