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Air Date: May 31, 2006
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	Big Brother.
	You want answers?
	Well, so does he.
	He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
	And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
	I think.
	Welcome, ladies and gentlemen.
	Welcome.
	Thank you so much for joining us today on this live Wednesday edition, the 31st day of May 2006, the last day of this month, as we plunge into June and our big 9-11 conference that's coming up June 24th and 25th in downtown Los Angeles with high-level senior CIA analyst Ray McGovern to Reagan and Bush Sr.,
	BYU Physics Professor Steven Jones, Dr. Steven Jones, of course, Professor Jim Fetzer, author Webster Tarpley, and so many others.
	That is coming up June 24th and 25th.
	The tickets are going extremely fast right now, so I suggest that if you're planning to come to this conference or you've thought about it, make that decision quickly because they're going quick.
	Okay.
	Where to start?
	You know what I want to do today?
	It looks like we've got a state rep lined up from Wisconsin, maybe even the governor, where they passed the bill banning companies forcing their employees to take implantable microchips to have jobs.
	That's how far we've gotten into the police state in America that they're having to pass laws banning it.
	Do you understand, ladies and gentlemen, that this is very serious?
	And of course this happened because a Wisconsin security company was trying to make its employees take chips.
	They were trying to incentivize it, which is the same thing as forcing.
	Oh, you get more money.
	We trust you if you take a chip.
	Last year we had a Bergen County sheriff on, or to be technical, it's called a police chief there of the county, and he said that he's taken the chip, he wants his deputies to take it, and that he thinks we should all be made to take it, and he'd be happy to enforce that.
	We actually had the crazy man on the air.
	He works with Applied Digital Solutions, and he openly said that.
	But that's a side issue.
	I thought I'd just mention that.
	Other than that, I just want to have open phones today.
	I really want to take your calls, and I really want to just talk about whatever issue you want to discuss.
	The main thing I hope you'll want to talk about is the fact that we're hurtling towards World War III.
	We had Ray McGovern on with us on Monday.
	He went further than he's ever gone, saying clearly our government's behind much of the terror, clearly elements of our government or private intel groups
	May carry out massive terror attacks.
	He said it's a probability in the U.S.
	or in the Western world, Western Europe, England, as a pretext to blame Iran.
	He said he believes the neocons will attack Iran, a very good chance.
	He says he believes they will.
	He has predicted that, barring a miracle, barring the people rising up and saying, no, that may still happen.
	Then if it does happen, it will be a blessing.
	People will say, Ray McGovern said we were going to go to war.
	Why we didn't?
	He's wrong.
	Well, he says there's a small chance we can stop it.
	And let's hope he's wrong, but he hasn't been wrong very often.
	In fact, I haven't found him being wrong in the past.
	That's why he was a chief analyst for Ronald Reagan and George Bush Sr.
	And it looks like they're going to be attacking anywhere this summer or this fall, as early as late June, as late as October.
	And we're facing World War III.
	I don't know if some of you out there realize the consequences of striking Iran, but they are legion, they are manifestly bad, and even Jack Straw, the Foreign Secretary, criticized this and said it was crazy to attack.
	He's a big neocon, and he had to resign two days later.
	They forced him out.
	This is nuts.
	A bunch of conservative generals have gone public.
	We've got another general joining us tomorrow.
	So, I want to talk about 1-800-259-9231.
	You can bring up whatever you want, but expect to be on about 45 seconds if it's another issue.
	If it's Iran, you can go five minutes if you've got good points to make.
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	Hello friends, Alex Jones here, and I'm excited to announce we're going to have a huge 9-11 conference in downtown Los Angeles on the 24th and 25th of June.
	We're expecting around 1,000 people in attendance.
	At this historic event, we will irrefutably document that 9-11 was an inside job, a self-inflicted wound, a false flag terror operation.
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	Big Brother.
	Mainstream media.
	Government cover-ups.
	You want answers?
	Well, so does he.
	He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
	And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
	I want to talk about World War III, or what the CIA calls World War IV, the upcoming, rapidly accelerating towards us, collision, crashing bombardment of Iran, and what that means to the geopolitical structure, what that means to the dollar, what that means to all of us on this planet, especially Americans and Iranians.
	Now I have other little stories here, like one in three Americans now has diabetes.
	This is out of Reuters Health.
	More than one out of every three individuals in the United States have diabetes, and another 26% have impaired...
	Fasting glycos, which increases the risk of developing diabetes.
	New study findings suggest the prevalence of diagnosed diabetes has increased in recent years, while undiagnosed diabetes and impaired fasting glucose has remained constant over the past decade.
	Reuters reports more than one out of every three individuals in the United States have diabetes.
	Another 26% have impaired fasting glycos.
	We're good to go.
	Counterbalance of fewer people with undiagnosed diabetes.
	Study co-authored Dr. Katherine C. Coey of the National Institute of Diabetes and Digestive and Kidney Diseases in Bethesda told Reuters Health.
	The findings are based on an analysis of four years of data from the National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey.
	The study included information on 4,761 adults ages 20 years or older who have classified according to their
	Glycemic status.
	The doctor said her team compared data from the 99-2002 with data from 88-94.
	Over 35% of the study participants, representing 73.3 million randomly chosen individuals, had diabetes or impaired fasting, glycos, and O2.
	The researchers report in the Journal of Diabetics Care, a total of 9.3% had diabetes from 88-02, and the prevalence of undiagnosed diabetes was stable at 2.8% during this period.
	However, the prevalence of diagnosed diabetes rose 5.1% from 88 to 94 to 6.5, and 99 to 2002, they're estimated that about one-third of diabetics are undiagnosed.
	So I'll talk about this first, then we're going to get into World War III and have open phones throughout the broadcast.
	What's going on here?
	Well, I've interviewed top genetic engineering specialists,
	We've interviewed experts, doctors on diabetes.
	Juvenile diabetes is up several thousand percentage points every five years.
	Here is the national study put on with government funding.
	It mirrors other studies that I have been reading in the last few years that one in three Americans now has some type of diabetes.
	Why is this?
	Well, there are legions of reports confirming that corn syrup extracted from corn is a very destructive form of sugar and makes the entire system dealing with the pancreas go haywire.
	And that it's very, very dangerous.
	So just continue to drink your Cokes.
	Continue to eat your white bread.
	I mean, almost everything I read out there that's a processed food has this corn syrup in it.
	Very, very bad.
	Then there's something even worse.
	There are several big studies out showing that people that drink diet drinks are at an even higher risk of diabetes.
	And you say, why is that?
	Well, the wood alcohol is poisonous, and the body also recognizes that as a sugar.
	And that really throws it into a fit.
	Americans in modern times, the last hundred years, have all consumed a lot of sugar.
	Why is this just now happening?
	Well, it's not just the corn syrup, and it's not just the lack of exercise, which then heats the body up, causes the blood to flow, causes the body to metabolize fat, which is a wonderful engine of supplying energy.
	It's delivered in a slow...
	I'm putting this all in layman's terms.
	I've read literally hundreds of medical reports on this and so it is destructive to the pancreas.
	But people don't exercise enough now and then they add all of this processed sugar into their diet and it's destructive.
	But what is the main causal indicator in all of this?
	It is genetically modified engineered foods.
	You see,
	There are, what, 50-something naturally occurring amino acids that you find in eggs and milk and poultry and fish and beef and pork.
	And you find some of those amino acids, some foods like milk, I believe, what has all of the amino acids in it.
	Eggs has almost all of them.
	Beef has most of them.
	Soybeans and then corn and other things will have a few of the amino acids, but not a complete amino acid.
	That's why vegetarians will eat beans and rice together.
	Those two will supposedly give you a complete amino acid spectrum.
	And you can build and also get the protein that you need from that.
	But what happens is most rice species that we now consume are genetically engineered.
	Most bean species that we consume are genetically engineered.
	Most of the, or many of the fish and poultry and porcine pig meat that we eat has been engineered.
	And, well, there was a study a few years ago that, what was it, like 90-something percent, I forget the exact number, of corn species have been infected by cross-species chimera.
	And chimera, of course, was the Greek god that, depending on which manifestation, had two to six heads.
	It might be an eagle and a lion.
	It might be a snake and a goat.
	The point is, is that they call these scientifically chimeras from the Greek term chimera, and that is a cross species.
	And Limbaugh and others, I've heard of many times, is just they have talking points.
	They go, this genetic engineering is totally natural.
	It's not a problem.
	Why, George Washington Carver
	Had hybrids, well yes, he would take peanuts and cross them with other peanuts, and that naturally happens.
	He would take different corn and cross it with other corn.
	That is still the same basic species line.
	And so it's not really genetic engineering in the modern sense.
	No.
	When you take, and it's mainly insects they use because their genetic code is very easily spliced.
	It's pretty hard with mammals and plants.
	Mammals and mammals is easy.
	But for some reason, they've used thousands of insects.
	It's thousands and thousands.
	And one of their favorites is the cockroach.
	Very old genetic line, very easy to splice in.
	The grasshopper is in hundreds of foods.
	Most tomatoes now that are genetically modified have cockroach genes in them.
	And we've had top scientists on who worked on this.
	They don't know why it works, but a tomato lasts three or four times longer if you've got several delicious cockroach genes in it.
	Salmon genes in corn, corn genes in spiders that they then cross with goats.
	So in some cases, I had a top scientist on last year, a Nobel Prize winner, and I said, so you'll have two or three species.
	He said, Alex, it's not two or three species.
	We might have 20 species in a, say, potato.
	Animal, plant, bacteria, they're injecting viruses into it.
	And they can change one thing.
	They can make the potato last longer, but then it changes randomly thousands of other things.
	So it's Russian roulette.
	It's all approved here in the U.S.
	Europe won't accept most of it.
	And you eat this, and it creates new amino acids, hundreds of new amino acids, thousands of new crystalline ring structures, thousands of new enzymes, and that goes into your body.
	I think.
	I think.
	And in every case, they feed chimera potatoes, corn, soybeans, to rats, to mice, laboratory animals, to guinea pigs, to rabbits.
	And in most cases, about half of them die, depending on the study.
	You feed them to baby animals, they die.
	They actually have mutations within the already fully developed... Normally mutations occur in the zygote or occur in the embryonic early stages.
	No.
	No, no, no.
	They've actually found with genetically modified food that you get mutations, which is really unknown.
	You get mutations like it's some Hollywood nightmare science fiction movie in the already developed, already gestated, already born mammal.
	Isn't that special?
	Tumors, the intestines for some reason will double in size.
	The equivalent of Crohn's, accelerated autoimmune disease.
	Of course, Crohn's disease is exploding nationwide.
	They thought it was genetic.
	It really isn't.
	On and on and on and on.
	It totally fries your pancreas.
	It fries your organs.
	And I'm eating it.
	You're eating it.
	It's everywhere.
	I try to eat mainly organic.
	My children probably eat 90% organic.
	I probably eat half organic because I'm so busy.
	And it's killing us, and I would imagine if one in three has diabetes, at the current trends, what, in about ten years, two out of three will have it, and I'm sure pretty soon we'll all have it.
	Dick Cheney feeds it to his kids, I feed it to mine, you feed it to, you know, Bill Clinton gives it to his, eats it himself, and this is happening, and this is just the new America, folks.
	This is the new world.
	The new world order comes to kill, steal, and destroy.
	So, we were eating corn syrup 50 years ago and didn't see this growth in diabetes.
	We were eating corn syrup 80 years ago.
	The corn syrup is the red herring.
	It's the scapegoat.
	It's not good for you.
	But compared to cockroach genes and cockroach... Well, these aren't even cockroach amino acids.
	These are amino acids that didn't exist.
	The cockroach has the same amino acids we have.
	We could actually eat cockroaches all day.
	It's that they spliced them.
	It's new stuff.
	It just never existed before in any of the biosphere of this planet.
	You know, they've got these... I'll break it down when we get back, and then we'll get into World War III and take your calls.
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	Let me draw a parallel to the genetic engineering and
	Human allergies have now increased many, many fold.
	That's directly linked to food allergies with the genetic engineered food products, which have now proliferated the entire food chain of the human population.
	And some of the other things that are happening.
	Depleted uranium has been used in ten sites in the U.S.
	by the ton, by the thousands of tons in Iraq twice, in Afghanistan, in the Balkans several times.
	The burnt defects there, depending on the country, have tripled or in some cases quadrupled.
	We're good to go.
	DARPA and other big government research firms created several big devices, and they have different names, but basically they run trillions of volts, basically, through already existing matter.
	And I'm sure you've heard that they have the periodic table with the known elements here on planet Earth, and they haven't found any other elements on the Moon.
	Well, they've created, I forget, it's 50 plus new elements.
	And it'll take the amount of power, on average, that it takes to run Manhattan for a couple weeks, but they run all this power in one big pulse, and they have these focused, I guess you could call them magnetic fields, these shields, and it's all part of fission fusion, and they're able to create artificial matter, new matter, some of it quite unstable.
	If you don't believe me, folks, just type in scientists create new elements and articles will pop up about it.
	Well, that's what they've done with genetic engineering.
	It's much easier.
	They take a bunch of species, they manipulate them, they cross their genetics, and it creates new life matter, new codes, new combinations that are unknown.
	It's so destructive.
	And then they approve it and we eat it.
	We feed it to our children because it looks like good food.
	It tastes like good food.
	But they've taken a lot of genetically altered foods and tried to feed it to cows, tried to feed it to horses, tried to feed it to pigs.
	And the pigs especially, because they've got a better nose than a dog, pigs especially will not eat it.
	They will not eat some of these genetically modified soybeans.
	They will not eat some of these chimera corns.
	They just will walk away from it.
	What does a pig smell?
	A greedy pig, folks.
	Pigs will eat anything.
	For those that don't know, that's why they call them a truffle hound.
	They use pigs to go out and find truffles.
	They have noses that make a bloodhound pale in significance, literally.
	They're trying to train pigs as bomb sniffers, but they're pretty ornery.
	They're not like a dog.
	They're hard to train.
	But side issue, pigs especially will not eat this stuff, okay?
	But you're going to feed it to your kids.
	It's like the cell phones.
	New studies every day coming out.
	Big governmental studies, university studies, that it's giving us brain tumors, that it heats the brain.
	It's microwave energy.
	I still use them.
	I still, every few months, lose the cord that goes to it, and then it'll be a few months I forget to go buy another one, or I get sick of it, and I'm in a hurry, and I just pick it up, you know, because the phone's ringing, and I get to it on the fifth ring when it's about to pick up, and it isn't plugged in, or I just pull the bottom out and put it up to my head, and
	My children see this and they're going to end up wanting cell phones because we're a mammalian species.
	We do what our elders do.
	We do what our idols do.
	We do what those we respect do.
	We emulate.
	We model off of others.
	We're all killing ourselves and we don't have the self-control to stop it.
	It's like a water's full of stannous and sodium fluoride.
	Deadly poison thousands of university studies worldwide.
	We still drink it.
	Dead bacteria, chlorine, herbicides, pesticides.
	I at least don't do that.
	I mean, I shouldn't even go in a restaurant and drink iced tea, folks.
	The water is that poisonous.
	It's at every level we're being poisoned.
	Is there any surprise that cancer has doubled in the last ten years?
	Yes, the national cancer rate.
	Breast cancer is up over six times.
	Everybody I know is getting breast cancer.
	I don't like this.
	I love these women I know that are getting breast cancer.
	Friends and grandmothers and others.
	I'm in dread that my wife someday might get it.
	And it's the genetically engineered hormones, that's right, they're engineered themselves, in the milk, it's in the cheeses, it's in the water, it's in the plastics, the dioxin that is a toxic...
	It fools the body into thinking it's estrogen.
	Our boys are effeminate because they drink out of plastic bottles.
	That's admitted.
	I mean, it's poison everywhere.
	Our girls develop at age 9 instead of 12 like they're supposed to.
	They're getting all... It's a cocktail.
	A cocktail of poisons and toxins and garbage.
	We've got to get a hold of this now.
	This isn't hype, folks.
	Look at the numbers.
	How many toddlers do you know that are getting leukemia?
	I know a lot of them.
	How many women do you know have breast cancer?
	How many people do you know that have diabetes?
	They're chopping arms and legs off left and right.
	It's the genetically engineered food, number one.
	We'll come back in the World War III.
	Take your calls.
	We're on the march.
	The empire's on the run.
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	Genetic engineers on here who work for these companies and half the rats would die when they'd feed them this and they'd go, you can't approve this and they'd say, yes we are.
	Speaking of the devil, the water supply is just unbelievable.
	I mean, if you're drinking off a well, that's pretty good, but still there's so much leached into the water supply that that's not even very safe.
	You've got to filter your water.
	We do this here.
	We have a big Berkey at the office, big Berkey at home.
	Every Christmas, I probably buy, I counted it up, I think I bought seven of these last year.
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	I mean, if that's a reason to get you moving, fine.
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	You get them for $195, $250, depending on the model you're getting.
	Debbie Morrow, New Millennium Concepts, thank you for coming on with us.
	Alex, thank you for having me.
	I was listening to you while I was on hold, and I couldn't agree with you more about all of these contaminants that are in the water that are causing people to get sicker and sicker all the time when they lead a normally healthy lifestyle, and that's why I feel like we really need to
	Berkey, our water, so that we can take control of what we're putting in our bodies.
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	I did research, I don't know, now eight years ago, I keep saying five, no, it was in 98, on what the best water filters were, and I found the big Berkey from all the studies, all the reports, and now, so I was buying these before you guys were a sponsor, and I want everybody to buy one right now.
	Well, I think that's a great idea, and especially right now, while we do have the supplies in, because as you did state,
	When it's been the normal thing, you know, I've been here since 98, since you first got your original Berkey, and whenever there's a crisis in the U.S., that's when we get really, really, really busy.
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	Debbie, tell folks about some of the specials.
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	Again, I've talked to pool people at the neighborhood pool.
	I've talked to hot tub people when I see them driving around the neighborhood.
	Because the first time I heard it from my dad, I didn't believe it.
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	Debbie, thanks for coming on with us.
	Thank you, Alex.
	Have a great day.
	You too.
	Thank you.
	God bless you.
	Give her a call, folks.
	Don't wait.
	All right, I'm told Maury disagrees from Arizona.
	He goes to the head of the line.
	You're on the air.
	Go ahead.
	Thank you for letting me come on in.
	Hi, Alex.
	I wanted to make a comment about the preacher, Revere, I guess his name is, that says that the Homeland Security is telling the preachers of the country to use Romans 13 to get the people to surrender their weapons, or gun confiscation.
	I'd like to point out that the government of the United States is against the laws of God.
	Particularly a sodomy.
	Okay, what do you disagree with?
	Because I don't know what you're talking about.
	Okay, well, let me finish.
	I'm saying that Romans 13 cannot be used to... Well, we disagree with that too, sir, but they are using that.
	The report is they're using that.
	We're not saying it's valid.
	Okay, let me finish my statement, though, okay?
	You know, in the Scripture it actually says God wants you to be armed.
	You know, this is Luke 11.
	No, no, I'm going to stop you, sir.
	Okay.
	Put him on hold.
	We have a rule that you go to the head of the line if you disagree with me.
	But what's happening is, people just call in and then say that I disagree, and then it makes it sound like I'm saying Romans 13 is valid.
	It's taken out of context.
	It was Hitler's favorite quote.
	Almost all the prophets were killed or imprisoned for criticizing the government and wicked government.
	John the Baptist, the list goes on and on.
	Paul the Apostle.
	I mean, you know...
	So, sir, what we're reporting is, you can say you disagree with our report.
	What we're reporting is, is that FEMA is telling the preachers to go out and use Romans 13 with the interpretation that do whatever government says.
	So I want to make it clear, I don't agree with that, sir.
	Now, you can go ahead and make your point.
	Okay, well, my point is that the scriptures in the Bible say that, you know, if you don't have clothes, buy a sword.
	And the other thing is an armed man is safe in his house and his possessions, and he that breaks into pieces is at your face, hold on munitions.
	So God is very clear.
	He's telling us he wants us to be armed on a personal basis, and that's the guns today.
	Okay, what do you disagree with?
	I'm trying to figure this out.
	I'm sorry, say the comment.
	You said you disagreed with me.
	What do you disagree with that I've said?
	Well, I think what you just said in retaliation to me was correct.
	When the preacher first came out, you didn't make it clear that Romans 13 cannot be used.
	That's what I was disagreeing about.
	No, actually I did.
	I remember the interview.
	Okay, now I understand what you're saying, and I appreciate it.
	Thank you for letting me come on.
	No, no, thank you, sir.
	I mean, why don't you explain to people, if you have a knowledge of this, what's wrong with Romans 13?
	Well, Romans 13 only applies to godly government.
	And when we don't have a godly government, then Romans 13 does not apply.
	And, you know, we are required to stand up for God.
	In fact, God just cries out, who stands up for me against the evil people?
	Who stands up for me against the wicked doers?
	When the enemy comes in like a flood, the Spirit of the Lord lifts up a standard against it.
	That's right.
	Well, anyone who's been in Sunday school, anyone who's read any... You can open the Bible anywhere.
	I would say the most dominant theme in the Holy Bible, Old and New Testament, is God commanding people to stand up against evil and say no to evil government.
	That's correct.
	And, I mean, that's just every chapter, everything I've... Literally, folks, I have a Bible in every room in my house.
	I just randomly open it, and just... That's every chapter.
	It is the... Do you agree it is the most dominant theme in the Bible?
	It is the preeminent theme to stand up against evil government?
	Absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	And so how these preachers teach to do whatever the government says, lay down, follow their orders, that is total garbage.
	I agree.
	I agree.
	Thank you, Alex.
	I appreciate you letting me come in.
	Sure, thank you.
	I don't want to sound like I'm being rude here.
	You're just saying people are going to think I agree with the misinterpretation, misapplication of Romans 13.
	I've probably had four or five preachers on in the last six months, but Paul, among them, of this network,
	Dissecting Romans 13 arguments.
	I mean, that was all over Hitler's newsreels.
	The Soviets used it against Christians in the Ukraine.
	Oh, you know, Romans 13.
	Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's and unto God the things that are God's.
	Then you read before it and after it.
	It's totally taken out of context.
	I mean, if that's the case, why did they kill Christ?
	Why did they kill Paul?
	Why did they kill... There were only a couple prophets they didn't kill.
	Who, Elijah?
	A few others?
	I mean, they killed them all.
	Or they tried to kill them.
	Over and over and over and over again.
	I mean, what did John the Baptist do when they cut his head off?
	He went into Herod and he said, you're a degenerate piece of filth.
	You're an absolute abomination.
	And Herod said, I'm going to cut your head off, boy.
	They had it put on a silver platter and brought to him.
	I mean, ha ha ha!
	Was he supposed to submit to Herod?
	Were the Founding Fathers bad?
	Were we bad for fighting Hitler?
	Was anybody bad?
	Folks, they teach it in the Catholic churches, the Baptist churches.
	They teach it everywhere.
	And it is unbelievable.
	Let's talk to Joe in Wisconsin.
	Joe, go ahead.
	Hey, Alex.
	Wow, what a lead-in.
	I want to talk about the social conditioning for the war or the cheaping of America.
	First, we're being taught that defending yourself is wrong.
	Take a look at what they're saying about Iran and retribution.
	You've covered it how many times?
	You said if they dare defend themselves, how dare they?
	It sounds like they're already conditioning people that preemption is good and it will be done.
	So we're being sent the message, hey, if you think you're going to get anywhere and if you think you're going to defend yourself, you'll wind up just like, I'll fill in the blank.
	And I'm wanting to go into further things that will happen here rather than Iran, but the things that will happen as a consequence, like martial law, if it does break forth because of bird flu, fill in the blank, whatever excuse,
	There's going to be collateral damage.
	I know what there will be.
	It should be avoided at all costs, but it's inevitable.
	But suppose an American defends himself and a bystander gets caught in the crossfire.
	You know, and I do, the PR propaganda machines will just use it as a smear campaign and then just say, no, no, no, now you're going to have to be all sheep.
	That's right.
	During the hysteria as the government tried to maintain order, citizens and vigilante groups went wild.
	That's it.
	We're confiscating all guns.
	Yeah, well, I wanted to ask you some really quick things that breaks it down.
	It's like the Shultz-Nisa quote, but what is innocence?
	And is it a brown shirt just doing his job?
	A useful idiot?
	What about resisting evil?
	What if they want to drug you to make you more docile, and I think more susceptible to demonic forces?
	Well, let me try to answer that.
	I appreciate your call.
	We had a preacher on...
	Last week, we have his name, we have the documents, we published all the documents we can without getting him in trouble.
	It's up on Infowars.com, on PrisonPlanet.com.
	It is confirmed in 13,000 plus counties in the last year, they've been covertly, but it's even in official documents, recruiting pastors to prepare their flocks for gun confiscation for all of this.
	And they've told them, relocation centers, emergency roundups, martial law, that term's been used.
	The public may need to be drugged psychotropically, because if you don't submit, you're mentally ill.
	The preachers have to tell their flocks to take these drugs.
	I mean, all we know is the government is preparing in earnest for this.
	All the training, all the decades-long preparation is coming to a head.
	Ray McGovern, top CIA analyst, and a whole bunch of other analysts that are part of his organization, veteran intelligence analyst for sanity, a lot of other experts are saying, and the neocons are on the air saying, they may attack Iran the next three to six months, maybe even the next two months.
	That that needs to happen, that if Israel strikes them, and if Iran fights back, that Iran has launched the attack.
	Imagine, we attack you, if you fight back, we consider that a premeditated first strike.
	They consider it to be a sneak attack by Iran if they fight back.
	We're good to go.
	What do you call those?
	You'll call those suicide attacks, terror attacks.
	What do you call it when you get attacked and you fight back?
	It's called terrorism.
	When the SWAT team comes to your house to take your guns and you fight back, they call you a terrorist on the news.
	It's the same thing.
	And the globalists want to escalate this into a worldwide calamity.
	They want to use it as a smoke screen to plunge the stock market and grab the pension funds, because you'll be cheering as you give up your pension funds, because we're going to fight with them Iranians, them Arabs.
	They're not even Arabs, as people like to call them.
	They are Persians.
	And think what Iran's gone through.
	No wonder they hate us.
	I'm not saying they're perfect.
	But what's happened?
	Our government overthrew their elected government in 1953 that was pro-America.
	They put in the Shah who tortured and killed hundreds of thousands.
	Then the radicals took over.
	Our government shot down their jetliners, blown up their ships, had the Iraqis attack them, gave them 30 plus billion to do it.
	Over a million and a half Iranians died keeping their country.
	I mean, imagine if, say, Mexico had attacked us and been funded, say, by Germany.
	Which they tried to do in World War I and World War II.
	But let's hypothetically say they killed a million two Americans.
	They'd shot down our planes.
	They'd overthrown our government once.
	We'd gotten our government back.
	What would you think of the Mexicans, hypothetically?
	I mean, that's what we've done.
	That is, the globalists have done, using American muscle and British muscle.
	I mean, what do they think of us?
	Why do they hate us?
	Why do they call us the great Satan?
	They're a third world slash ancient culture.
	And they got satellite TV.
	Man, they see the men in bed together, women in bed together, all this stuff, all this weird devil stuff on MTV.
	It freaks them out, folks.
	They're scared of us.
	And frankly, I'm scared of us, too.
	I mean, we're the country that genetically engineers the food.
	We're the ones that have got one in three people with diabetes.
	I mean, we're wallowing in death, folks.
	People can smell us a mile away.
	I mean, we stink like a pile of dead pigs.
	So I don't know.
	Just look at us.
	We are the great Satan, ladies and gentlemen.
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	I fell into a burning... Mark, Elise, Beth, Dr. Deagle, Matt, Bill, everybody, your calls are coming up here in just one moment.
	I continue to discuss the upcoming war with Iran.
	All the evidence points towards them doing it.
	Analysts I trust and respect say it's going to happen.
	It's almost a virtual certainty.
	There's a few ways to turn it around.
	We're trying here.
	They're escalating in order out of chaos, putting us into a world crisis by design.
	Coming up in June, the 24th and 25th in Los Angeles.
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	People used to drink like fish, and you didn't have all this, so they blame it.
	It's like they're blaming secondhand smoke for a six-fold increase in the last five years in lung cancer, and it's not that because secondhand smoke is down.
	Right, it's depleted uranium worldwide, period.
	We know that.
	We know that the single independent factor that's increasing worldwide, the amount of, according to the nuclear experts, is four to eight times as much as the maximum allowed standard for an environmental protection agency for a uranium miner breathed by every person on Earth now from the DU caused by Gulf War I and II.
	It's ridiculous.
	And if this next war happens, it's going to cause an explosion of diabetes, birth defects worldwide.
	That's right, that's right.
	You know, they went from just having it in Abrams tanks and in the Vulcan cannons and the A-10s to now in hundreds of munitions, and they're now serving it up.
	Almost all the bombs they're going to be using in a huge bombardment are DU-tipped.
	It aerosolizes upon impact.
	Yeah, it's going to be roughly about 60% of the actual dry weight of the munition before it's fired is actually aerosolized and spreads around the entire planet.
	And this is a holocaust, and...
	Long after the sun has burned out 24.5 billion years from now, there'll still be residual DU from Gulf War I and II.
	Yeah, space aliens will fly by the planet and their detectors will pick it up and they'll go, look at those idiots.
	What type of idiots would kill themselves?
	Just the amount of DU used in the new Iraq war.
	This is official numbers, 44,000 Hiroshima bombs.
	Isn't that amazing?
	44,000!
	We've got to stop this or they're going to destroy life on this planet.
	Stay there, Dr. Beagle.
	Medical doctor joining us.
	We'll be right back.
	Let him talk a little bit more and then we'll go to all your other calls.
	You'll want to stay with us.
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	Big Brother.
	Mainstream media.
	Government cover-ups.
	You want answers?
	Well, so does he.
	He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
	And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
	Dr. Bill Deagle has called in.
	He's responding to my report about World War III coming up about Iran.
	I also talked about the cell phones frying our brains, the sodium fluoride poisoning us, the genetic engineering creating new enzymes and new amino acids that have never existed that are causing massive health problems.
	All the top scientists we've had on major reports.
	There's no debating it.
	DU being used, the equivalent of 44,000 A-bombs, the exact weight and type isotope, just used in the last Gulf War and still ongoing, blowing all over the planet.
	Detectors in England, Europe, and the U.S.
	picking up upwards of eight times safe levels that are allowed for uranium miners.
	What Deagle said is on the record.
	We've had top experts and scientists on covering this.
	My question to you, Dr. Deagle, and we'll go to some more calls, folks, that are holding, Bart and Luis and Beth and everybody else, Matt and Bill,
	Why is the elite so nuts?
	It was like last year it came out that millions of gallons of solid nerve gas were dumped 54 miles, 55 miles off the coast of North Carolina.
	It's showing up in the shellfish, everything.
	And the elite take their kids in and have them eat this stuff for dinner.
	I mean, why are the elite so crazy that they're even doing this to themselves?
	It's a death culture.
	These elite are all part of a death culture, just like the Nazi Germany elite.
	Well, we have an American... Or Dr. Bianca.
	Dr. Bianca of UT that says we've all got to die.
	Exactly.
	And we're really living in the Fourth Reich right now because the Third Reich never really died.
	We are the descendants with the Operation Paperclip and all the scientists and Nazi horrors that came over here to America.
	All of our secret agencies are basically the... receive the endowment of these monsters.
	And our entire culture is now immersed in death.
	So America is the...
	Broodmare for the New World Order.
	45 million abortions.
	I mean, it's incredible.
	Yeah, and so they're moving us very quickly, and I believe that this war will trigger off an attack by China against Taiwan.
	They want to mine the Strait of Hormuz, which will immediately crash the world economy.
	This is all by design, the same way they're already telling us they're going to release, you know, I like your term called the Zychronian 12 plague, because I really believe they're going to do it in the next few years.
	They're going to do it, and they have it all planned to stick the chips in us,
	All of this has been completely by design.
	And I guess a lot of people are going to cheerlead their own destruction here in America.
	Yeah, it's amazing.
	If just the minorities would stand up and just say, hell no, it would be over.
	But we need to now, as Pastor Butch said last week, we need to say, now it's time for civil disobedience.
	No more national ID.
	No more disarming the public.
	No more forced vaccines.
	No more GMO food.
	No more fluoride in our water.
	That's it.
	No.
	No more corrupt medical system, no more corrupt legal system, and no more transnational corporations raping and pillaging our country.
	I hear you, Dr. Deagle.
	Thanks for the call.
	Always good to hear from you.
	Let's talk to Bart in Texas.
	Bart, you're on the air.
	Thanks for holding.
	Hey, Alex.
	I have a question for you, and it involves Iran, and it really involves the overall structure of the New World Order.
	Since I started watching you back in 1996 in Austin, I've researched this the entire time.
	And I've really been trying to understand because, you know, listening to your guest the other day that was talking about her confrontation, and I watched the video of her confrontation with some of the Omission Commission members, and it really was obvious that there was just stark terror in some of their eyes when she brought up some of these issues.
	Well, it's like the cops when they bust somebody and find the dead body and say, you're going to prison, buddy.
	Well, you know... I mean, that's how they look.
	I've been caught.
	Well, my question is really straight to you, and it's about the nature of the New World Order.
	You know, sometimes it really does seem like we're just dealing with a neo-feudal kind of elitist criminal syndicate that do make mistakes.
	You know, it seems that way when you see the fear in their eyes.
	But then at other levels, it really does seem like this is just mastermind orchestrated crime
	And you see my quandary in trying to figure it out?
	Well, there's different layers of the pyramid, sir.
	You're looking at minions on the commission, so of course they're scared.
	And you have the insulated Rockefellers and Rothschilds and others, and they're just very cold.
	They're like the depths of space.
	They're soulless.
	And they're like machines of wickedness just carrying out their plans.
	Can you hold me over for one last question?
	Sure, sure.
	I mean, they're carrying out their father's design to kill everyone.
	They're of their father, the devil.
	Then it all makes sense.
	Hello friends, Alex Jones here, and I'm excited to announce we're going to have a huge 9-11 conference in downtown Los Angeles on the 24th and 25th of June.
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	At this historic event, we will irrefutably document that 9-11 was an inside job, a self-inflicted wound, a false flag terror operation.
	The conference is titled 9-11 and the Neocon Agenda.
	I'm happy to announce the conference will feature presentations by incredible speakers like BYU physics professor Stephen Jones, the father of the Star Wars program, Lieutenant Colonel Robert Bowman, former top-level CIA analyst for Reagan and Bush, Ray McGovern, 9-11 hero William Rodriguez, author Webster Tarpley, Professor Jim Fetzer, and many, many others, including special guests.
	I'll also be debuting my explosive new film, Terror Storm, at the conference.
	Arm yourself with the truth.
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	Really, the discussion with the callers today has turned into a discussion of the death culture.
	Genetically engineered foods directly linked to one in three now having diabetes, cancers exploding.
	I think?
	We're good to go.
	And it just hurdles us towards total crisis.
	Bart, finish up quickly.
	I want to move on here.
	Thank you, sir.
	Well, I've really reached the same conclusions you have about the nature and the structure that we're dealing with multiple levels and the neocons are just one level.
	But, you know, the conclusion that that leads me to is this is really still just the beginning.
	That there are whole levels of technology and deception that they haven't even begun to throw at us.
	And that feels disheartening sometimes, but that's really what it feels true to me.
	No, I appreciate your call.
	Listen, we have the patents going back 15 years.
	We have official studies that were done with different frequencies and wavelengths.
	It was even in, what was it, the Baltimore Sun about three years ago, DARPA,
	The big government research laboratories reported, oh yeah, we've got systems that will make public docile.
	We're going to test putting up towers that broadcast this.
	I mean, you can go read mainstream news articles about the government putting up mine control towers.
	I mean, this type of stuff is really going on.
	And they really are.
	They did just pass a law in Wisconsin banning the forced microchipping of the public.
	I mean, it's that bad.
	They did pass a law last year saying that they're going to forcibly put half the kids in America on psychotropic drugs with new freedom.
	I mean, they really did pass a national ID card with a state driver's license last year.
	They really are.
	The Senate did just pass the law.
	The House is set to pass it for total blanket amnesty.
	And then they say it's not amnesty.
	You know, just all of this is really happening.
	The electronic voting machine companies really are government-run and really are stealing elections.
	I mean, all this incredible developments are really going on.
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	Most people don't know what the real threats are.
	Humanity is under assault by a bunch of nut cases that are running our society.
	The architects of our society are a bunch of nuts, folks.
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	To find out we're not exaggerating this.
	In fact, I don't have words to describe how
	Out of control, the world has gotten.
	And if they attack Iran, it's going to get a lot worse a lot faster.
	Let's talk to Luis, I believe, in California.
	You're on the air.
	Go ahead.
	Quickly, I was at the post office the other day, and I found a pamphlet.
	Um, for selective service.
	And, um, I want to tell you about it.
	In fact, I want to send it to you because I'm sure this is something you're going to want to post on your website.
	It's really, it looks really kind of subtly nefarious.
	It says, men 18 to 25 years, do the right thing, read it, fill it, mail it.
	I do want to tell you really quickly because I know this is going to interest you.
	Um, the pictures they have on it, there's three boxes, right?
	One box, the first box has a giant eye casting a, like a triangular eye view scan or whatever.
	The second box has a pencil, but these are all caricatures, right?
	It has a pencil, supposedly filling out a form, and the third one has a hand delivering it in the mailbox.
	But anyway, the first one is like a giant eye with a pyramid, obviously, right?
	And it's a symbol I've seen in reference to the Stasi in East Germany, but it's in caricature form.
	The second one, the pencil...
	When you turn it upside down, it's clearly a pyramid of the capstone, or if you want to use the pencil part, the wood part, it's also an obelisk.
	But this is very subtle.
	It's a caricature.
	But anyway, in the inside it says, it says several things.
	The one that says, will I be drafted?
	It says, registering with Selective Service does not mean you are joining the military.
	The fact that a man is required to register does not mean that he will be drafted.
	Now, this is where it gets tricky.
	No one has been drafted since 1973.
	Here's the trick.
	No one can be drafted into the military unless ordered by Congress and the President.
	A draft would most likely occur only in the event of war or national emergency.
	You see how the first contradicts the second part?
	It's like, oh, don't worry, you won't be drafted unless... But, but, but there's probably going to be an emergency and then you will be.
	Well, that's what I'm saying.
	Like, the second part is so obvious.
	Come on, we're in a war and we just had a national emergency, like...
	Sir, three years ago they set up the draft boards again.
	The Army put out a report saying we're getting ready for a draft.
	Then they had to retract it because of the hysteria.
	They've introduced three pieces of legislation currently in Congress for a total draft of men and women 18 to 49.
	It's ridiculous.
	And I show people this, and it's funny, because even... I mean, I try... I'm careful who I share the esoteric, sort of occult, obvious symbolism with, but I just read what's inside.
	And it has a box that says the category, who will be... It has a category of yes and no, meaning, like, are these people required?
	And I'm going down.
	Let's see.
	Undocumented illegal aliens?
	Yes.
	They have to register for the, you know, whatever, the draft.
	You know, special agricultural workers, yes.
	Even like handicapped physically or mentally, yes.
	You know, all two seasons, yes, obviously.
	There's only a few that it says no, right?
	National guys, anyway.
	But it's like mainly, I've got to send this to you.
	I presume that the address to send you something like this is at your website?
	Yes.
	It is, okay.
	Because you're going to really, you have to see what it looks like.
	I really appreciate your call.
	I hear you.
	Yeah, and this is what they do.
	They go, we're not planning this.
	There's no plan for amnesty.
	And then they pass amnesty.
	There's no plan for... Bush will not sign the campaign finance reform that restricts free speech.
	Then he passes it.
	There's no plan for a draft.
	No plan for a draft.
	They've just gotten record funding for selective service and have introduced the bills and have shut up the draft boards again.
	And then the Houston Chronicle reports that there's already a draft going on of people that have already been in the military who have select skills, that there's going to be a draft of special skills workers, and that there's a stopgap where they won't let people out who've already served their term, and they make them serve a third or fourth tour in Iraq.
	But there's not going to be a draft, as they make every preparation for it.
	We're good to go.
	I think?
	And a lot of them are going to like it.
	You're going to have a fancy uniform and strut around with a black beret and run checkpoints and aid the officers.
	And they'll have PR firms on the TV about how handsome the men are.
	And many women will, oh, oh, you're the Homeland Security Commando.
	Oh, oh.
	And they've been training a division of Secure Corps with the youth with M-16s and warrant service at schools across the country from Philadelphia to New York to California and L.A.,
	I mean, it's happening, folks.
	You want to be a brown shirt nation?
	You want cameras with face scanners in every corner?
	You want to be drafted?
	You want to have your pension funds taken?
	You're going to get to enjoy it all.
	Don't worry.
	They're probably going to win, and you're going to get to enjoy your George Bushy Wooshy, or maybe a Hillary, or maybe a Jebby Webby.
	All right, I'm getting sarcastic here.
	It's so sick to watch him kill this country.
	And you'll have an American Union, all the illegals legalized.
	It'll be so conservative.
	Let's go ahead and talk to Beth in Texas.
	Go ahead, Beth.
	Yeah, good afternoon, Alex.
	Thanks for taking my call.
	Thank you.
	You know, there's just so much to say about the subject and the topic in particular that you started out with.
	I don't even know where to start, to be honest with you.
	But...
	I guess a good place would be something that people may not be aware of is we did have a bit of a setback yesterday when the Supreme Court ruled that they would not outpin the...
	Yeah, I got that from Reuters here.
	Let me just mention that.
	It's on the top of the stack.
	Court rules no whistleblower free speech right.
	Now, we've always had this.
	A closely divided U.S.
	Supreme Court ruled on Tuesday that government whistleblowers are not protected by free speech rights when they face employer discipline for trying to expose possible misconduct at work.
	They're openly saying they're not allowed to blow the whistle on crime.
	By a 5-4 vote, the high court ruled against a Californian prosecutor who said he was demoted, denied a promotion, and transferred for trying to expose a lie by a county sheriff's deputy in a search warrant affidavit.
	So they're saying you're not allowed to expose crime or corruption, and you will be demoted, and they are allowed to abuse you, and you're not allowed to defend yourself.
	Right, correct.
	And Mr. Russell Tice is a perfect example of that.
	The senior intelligence officer for the NSA said,
	He was recently demoted back in 2005 in December.
	He submitted a report that one of his fellow colleagues was suspected of spying for China.
	And they're talking about firing AT&T employees.
	It talks about how the NSA runs a whole floor of every major AT&T building.
	Well, that's already public.
	And they're talking about indicting people that have leaked White House memos about Bush crimes.
	Yeah, openly.
	You release stuff about a crime, you're going to lose your job.
	You're going to go to jail.
	That's right.
	Not to mention that...
	Walmart Incorporated has a Homeland Security office within their headquarters.
	That is confirmed up in Fayetteville, Arkansas.
	Well, and I've, sadly to say, I worked in one of their distribution centers, and I can no longer do, thank God, but did long enough to see for myself that it is, in fact, set up for that purpose.
	It's really a government front.
	You want to comment on that for us?
	You mean from personal experience?
	Yes.
	Other than say it's like a concentration camp.
	It's the most hellish place on earth that you can earn a paycheck from.
	I think people just need to come out of their warm and cozy little environments because I assure you that that's temporary.
	It may feel good now, but it's going away very soon, as Alex has said.
	Well, it's like a sheep or a hog or a chicken you're fattening up or slaughtering.
	Exactly.
	Everybody's in their cages braying and squawking and balking.
	Oh, they love it.
	They love the heaters in the slaughterhouse.
	It keeps them warm.
	The government gives us grain.
	Anything else you want to add?
	I do, if you'll hold me up.
	Yeah, stay there.
	Yeah, I'm glad you mentioned this.
	I meant to get to it.
	Yeah, you know, there's no whistleblowing.
	It's freedom.
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	We're spoiled rotten.
	We're propagandized.
	And we're going into slavery right now.
	We can stop it if you wake up to it and look around you.
	But the sun's shining.
	It's a pretty day out there.
	That's a point I've always made.
	That Russian immigrant we were interviewing yesterday about growing up in the Soviet Union talked about how everything still looked normal there, but they were living under tyranny.
	It's the same thing here.
	It's happening right now.
	They want to go after free speech.
	They want to take all of our freedoms.
	Beth in Texas, then Matt, Bill, Paula, Al, and others.
	Go ahead, Beth, and finish up your points.
	Okay.
	I just want to make a comment about the Georgia Guidestones.
	I'm sure you've mentioned this before on your program.
	I wonder how many people have ever heard of the Georgia Guidestones.
	Put up by the Masons, saying they're going to kill 80% of us.
	Well, what they are is the new Ten Commandments, which we'll be following.
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	You know, Alex, I should have started out when you took my call by saying I believe you, as many Americans do believe, that you're a true American hero.
	All the sacrifices, personally, financially, on every front that you make for all of us, not for yourself only, but for everyone, I commend you for it.
	Well, listen, I don't need to be commended.
	I know the cost.
	I know what we're facing.
	I see it clearly.
	All I can do is fight.
	I'm consumed with fighting.
	I mean, we're dealing with psychopathic murdering killers who've got control.
	I mean, we've got to fight them.
	And you hit the nail on the head.
	That's all we can do.
	I mean, like so many others, I myself went through the different stages of denial.
	The first thing was to run and hide and bury myself in the ground.
	But then one has to think, and this goes out to all those that are in that mode of survival.
	What are you going to do when you come out?
	Do you want to live in that world that you will be coming out into?
	Because my answer is no.
	I don't have any choice but to fight.
	Well, I appreciate your call, Beth, and those are wonderful words.
	You know, so many of us are taught to live in the moment, only care about now.
	You have to know the past, you have to look at the future, and that will make your now better.
	I mean, we didn't build this country because people were stupid and laid down to corruption.
	Four percent of the world's population had half the wealth.
	We're now losing it because, by and large, we were smarter, more active, more aggressive, more freedom-oriented than anybody else.
	Liberty brings plenty.
	Plenty brings decadence that then brings corruption that then brings enslavement.
	We're coming into the bottom of that cycle right now.
	Let's go ahead and talk to Matt.
	Matt, where are you calling us from?
	Blacksburg, Virginia.
	Welcome.
	Welcome.
	Thank you very much for taking my call.
	I really appreciate it, Alex.
	I've got two quick questions, and I'll hang up and let you answer.
	It's about Building 7.
	We all know you actually just had a story about the Danish press saying that it had to come down.
	I'm wondering if you think that perhaps it was supposed to be hit by a plane, maybe 93.
	Well, see, I don't want to speculate.
	We just know they blew it up.
	We don't know.
	We can say, was 93 really going there?
	My info is it was going to the Capitol.
	But we just know they blew it up.
	I mean, it's always great to speculate, but we really can't do that because we just need to stick to what we know.
	We know they blew it up.
	Absolutely.
	Was there anything that came out about the so-called fifth and sixth planes that were to be hijacked that day?
	We know there was other planes on the ground, people being grabbed off of them.
	We don't know, sir.
	Most of the focus by the truth movement is on that stuff.
	I just stick to all the things we can prove, and you look at those, the government did it.
	Absolutely.
	Last question.
	Did you ever get a chance to meet Bill Hicks?
	And you have a great day, sir.
	Yeah, thank you.
	I met him, I think, three times.
	All right, that's awesome.
	Yeah, thank you.
	You know, contrary to popular belief, we were not good friends.
	I was just, you know, in Austin, getting to know people.
	I've been here a few years, but before Bill died.
	And I'm good friends with his best friend.
	So I did meet Bill a few times, but I was not good friends with Bill Hicks.
	People say I was, and they say all this stuff.
	And, you know, there are websites that attack me and tell other lies about me, and then they say I'm friends with Bill Hicks.
	I don't see that as an attack.
	He was a very smart individual, very talented.
	It's just not true.
	We're going to break and come back.
	Let's get another call in right now.
	Bill in Nebraska.
	Bill, you're on the air.
	Yeah, Alex.
	Keeping with your talk about foodstuffs, I believe that it's a senator in Wisconsin, I'm not positive on that, but he's trying to pass a bill declaring cow manure as toxic waste.
	Yes, there's a bunch of stuff to start taxing and regulating, and Big Agra is actually funding all that to shut down the family farms.
	Well, now, if they pass a bill making cow manure toxic waste, but yet there's no bill to stop them from feeding chicken droppings to cows, which fosters mad cow disease.
	Sir, the Animal ID Act, all of it is written by big industry to shut down the small industry.
	That's what this would do.
	It would shut down organic farming.
	I know.
	Sir, it's an attack on everything American.
	Everything independent.
	The country is literally being dismantled in front of us.
	Because we know that those chemical fertilizers that they're going to force people to use, since you can't have organic farming anymore... Very toxic.
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	You can't just listen to us on the big ABC feed that we lease on the big ABC satellite.
	That's a big 15-foot dish.
	Most of you don't have that.
	You can listen on the Internet or local AM and FM affiliates.
	You can listen on the Internet.
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	And we've had nothing but success with this.
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	I'm plugging this because you get like 100 channels of TV and radio all over the world.
	So much neat stuff.
	And there's not a subscription.
	You buy the satellite dish and the receiver.
	It only takes, what, 30 minutes, I guess, to put up on your house.
	And boom, you're tuned into the world.
	And you can buy a fancier receiver if you want and get, I guess, hundreds and hundreds of more channels.
	But for $169, you get so much, including this network, the GCN Radio Network.
	And so Rick Kaler of Rick's Satellites joins us.
	Rick, thanks for coming on with us.
	Alex, thank you so much for having me back on your show again, and thanks for what you continue to do for us all.
	Did you get a big response last time coming on?
	Yes, you made the phones light up.
	You've got a lot of faithful, loyal listeners who sometimes have trouble hearing the show over shortwave as it will tend to fade in and out, and occasionally they might lose their connection on the Internet.
	So this alternative way to pick you up, and not only your live show, I don't know if I mentioned it, but on one of the channels we have you on, we also have a replay of your three hours from 6 p.m.
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	Absolutely.
	Tell folks about the dish and the receiver and how people can get it.
	Well, as a special for the Alex Jones listeners, we're going ahead and continuing the price package that we put together of $169.
	Rick Satellite, myself, have teamed up with Todd Waite of Global Star Radio.
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	He's actually the gentleman that is in charge of uplinking these signals to the satellite.
	And what we have is a satellite dish.
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	And you aim that at a satellite that's called Telstar 5, or it's also referred to as Intellisat Americas 5.
	And aim it in at that satellite and then run a cable from the dish to your satellite receiver and hook it up to your TV set.
	And there we have six different channels of Patriot Talk radio shows, most importantly featuring the Alex Jones Show.
	Other channels that are also available on there from the GCN lineup would be, let's see, Dave and Joyce from the Power Hour also have on Pastor Butch Paul with Call to Decision.
	Some of the other channels, we have Jeff Rents, Steve Quell, Gary Brownfield, Kevin Smith, Culture Shock, Dr. Stan Monteith, Stan Solomon, Scriptures for America, just to name a few.
	So we've got six different channels.
	So when you're not on, Alex, they can actually get a different flavor of some of the other folks as well.
	Absolutely.
	Now, on Infowars.com, right on the main page on the left-hand side,
	It says, listen to Alex in crystal clear audio quality.
	That's the link to the Alex Jones special on your site.
	But specifically, give us the website several times and give us the number to call to get one of these units.
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	A lot of them have gotten the system, and they've called back, and they're thrilled with the reception.
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	That number is 816-228-1801.
	The basic system is $169, including the shipping cost.
	And once you install the system, there is no charge for the programming.
	We want to help to do what we can to get your message out.
	One of the neat things about it is because of the size of the dish,
	Even in a homeowner's restricted area where they're trying to say, well, you can't have a satellite dish in here.
	You know, we want everything to look just this way.
	Well, they cannot legally tell you you cannot have this dish.
	As long as it's one meter in size or smaller, they cannot keep you from having this dish.
	And it's under one meter.
	It's 76 centimeters, so you can put this up even in the so-called homeowners' restricted areas.
	Well, also, we're on a lot of commercial AM and FM stations, but we're also on a lot of, quote, micros, known by the mainstream media as pirates.
	And we've got Texas Renegade Radio...
	Now over, I think, 12 transmitters in other states now, and a lot of people are using these dishes to refeed, or somebody can buy a one-watt transmitter and just transmit to three or four neighborhoods with one of these and use this as the feed as well.
	Absolutely.
	I've got a couple of farmers that actually micro-broadcast for their neighbors as well as so they can go out while they're working in the fields all day and still listening to the programs while they're out in the combine or working outside.
	Exactly.
	And those small units that are a water sower, very, very inexpensive, very, very easy to hook up to this satellite dish running an antenna up on top of the house.
	Well, listen, give that number out one more time, Rick, and give that website out again.
	Okay.
	The phone number, I'm in Missouri.
	The phone number is 816-228-1801.
	And on the Internet, it's gofastmotorsports.com.
	Right on the top of the page, it's got a link that says, Global Star Satellite Systems.
	There, that'll take you to a page where we've got basically three systems we've put together.
	The basic stand-alone system, just to aim at the one satellite.
	On that satellite, besides the six channels of the Patriot Talk Radio, there are, as you mentioned, over 100 TV stations from all around the world.
	Also some stations in English, the religious stations.
	We're good to go.
	Lots of different channels from other satellites.
	It's a lot more complicated to install, so you might need professional installation or a little background with the satellites to know what you're doing if you're going to put up a motorized system.
	But it's really easy with a $169 model.
	The standalone system is a lot easier to put up.
	Well, thank you so much, Rick, for coming on.
	Okay.
	I'm excited about this.
	Our listeners love it.
	Thank you so much, Alex.
	Take care.
	You bet.
	It's exciting, folks.
	We've got a link to it up on Infowars.com.
	Let's go back to the callers.
	We're talking about the attack on Iran.
	They're saying they're going to do it.
	They're moving forward to do it.
	It's crazy.
	It'll cause all sorts of global problems.
	We're also... I mean, you can't even state how bad it is.
	It's impossible.
	And then at the same time, we've got all of the other toxic things in our environment.
	Just the insanity of this elite, the things that they're taking...
	Hi, Alex.
	The thing about this satellite is really great.
	This thing about what Alito did with the free speech thing.
	Yes, saying no more whistleblowing, none of you are protected, there's no more free speech.
	You have to be quiet about criminal activity in government.
	Yeah, people need to call the Judicial Qualification Board and have him removed because he's violated constitutional... Well, I mean, the Supreme Court ruled that they can take our private property if a private interest wants it without just compensation.
	Thanks for the call.
	Let's go ahead and talk to Al in California.
	Al, you're on the air.
	Hey, Alex, how you doing?
	Good, sir.
	Two points.
	I'll do the less important one first, but anyways, whatever happened to that guy who invented the device that could see through the ground and you had him on the air a few months ago?
	Well, I don't remember that, but I mean, they've got ground penetrating radar that looks right through your walls of your house, mounted on police helicopters in several major cities we know of, and they have a lot of other similar and even more powerful systems that the military has, so we know that exists, but
	Yeah, I was thinking, you know, because I remember you had him on the air and you were talking about making the point how his device was much more elegant in a way in which it achieved... It was literally like a device that could just see right through the ground.
	It's as if you had dug a hole.
	And he mentioned that... Funny, I don't remember that.
	I had guessed on years ago about that, but... It wasn't years ago.
	He was on your show, and then the very same night he came on George... The very same day he came on George Norris' show.
	Okay.
	But I was just hoping if I somehow could find... Because I did an internet search and it was very difficult trying to retrace... Well, it's funny.
	My memory must be completely failing me.
	Are you sure you didn't hear him on another show?
	No, I heard him on your show.
	You had him on the air.
	You were talking about how different it was from the military stuff.
	It was much more elegant in the way in which it achieved the goal which he was trying to achieve.
	You're talking about Dr. Nick Begich?
	No, I don't think so.
	Not hard.
	I'm sorry I can't answer your question.
	All right.
	Anything else?
	Point number two.
	This is the reason I firmly believe, and none of the other callers have gotten on this point, but the big reason why these guys are doing what they're doing is, number one, it's a concept found in the Bible about people eat, drink, and be merry for tomorrow will die.
	So I believe that the leaders of this world literally know that, like in the last scene of Raiders of the Ark, that fire's going to drop down out of the heavens and incinerate them at Armageddon.
	And they literally know that their deal with the devil, their 6,000-year deal with the devil, you know, like Adam and Eve struck, it's pretty much up, man.
	So they know that, hey, time's up, just like Satan and his demons in Revelation 12.
	They know they've got a short period of time, and so they're simply trying to fulfill every desire that they ever had
	And they don't care how insane it is.
	They know the frog.
	They only got so much time, so they can't keep the frog boiling in the water for too long.
	So they know they got to just come out the bag and go hog wild.
	Because they literally know God's about to take them out at Armageddon.
	I know this.
	They are into the occult.
	I've studied them.
	They do believe that.
	I appreciate your call.
	Good points.
	Makes sense.
	Let's go ahead and talk to Alfred in Texas.
	Alfred, you're on the air.
	How are you doing?
	Hey, Alex.
	Good.
	I'm usually from Chicago.
	I live in Chicago, but I'm down here in Mesa, Arizona, visiting family.
	And I was down in Yuma yesterday.
	And I noticed, I mean, up in Chicago, I know about the contrails that come from airplanes and low-flying jet aircraft that they're not really contrails.
	They're actually aerosols that are in the fuel.
	And I'm down here in Mesa, and I absolutely see the whole time I'm here
	By the way, I have a mainstream article we posted a few days ago that has copies of the textbook.
	A middle school textbook admits chemtrails.
	government...
	Mainstream U.S.
	Certified.
	That, quote, it's to keep us safe from global warming.
	It's an emergency sunscreen.
	Yeah, I know.
	And I've read a couple articles that it's actually causing some kind of hole in the ozone layer and stuff like that.
	I just wanted to get your take on it and see if you knew more about it than I did.
	I know a lot about chemtrails.
	I actually told my producer yesterday that I want to line up a bunch of chemtrail guests.
	You will hear them here on air in the next month.
	We're going to interview Carnicom, all of them, yet again.
	It's been about a year since I've really plunged into it, and a couple times a year I like to get into it.
	Thanks for the call.
	I appreciate it.
	There's a lot of things going on, sir.
	There's also nuts who think every condensation trail is a chemtrail, and that's not the case.
	But there is weather modification going on.
	There is environmental manipulation going on.
	That's admitted.
	A lot of crazy stuff going on, folks.
	Let's go ahead and talk to Mark in Wisconsin.
	Mark, welcome.
	Hi, Alex.
	Back in the early 90s, I used to watch Henry Gonzalez in Texas on C-SPAN.
	Yes, the congressman.
	Yeah, when he did special orders and he brought up about Federal Reserve and derivatives and looming financial collapse.
	And every letter I wrote him, he always answered with sometimes three-page letters.
	You never get that response out of these guys in Wisconsin.
	And I was wondering if you'd give a quick synopsis of Henry's legacy and why we need honest congressmen.
	And also, do you think...
	Financial collapse could put the brakes on this neocon, luciferian nightmare.
	Yeah, Henry's son really is nothing compared to him.
	I've got Gonzales in my film, America Destroyed by Design, talking about how the government would use terror attacks for martial law.
	He's seen the documents.
	Also, Congressman Jack Brooks, also from Texas.
	I mean, something about Texans, they're either real bad or they're real good.
	We've got a lot of bad congressmen from here, a lot of really good ones from here.
	And they talk about how the government wants to stage terror attacks and carry out a new world order, and he's been dead, I don't know, five, six, seven years now, and he did a lot of good things.
	He was from San Antonio.
	Yep.
	I guarantee he wouldn't be for this little Reconquista either.
	He'd see right through that.
	Yep.
	You know when mathematicians and physicists, they do calculations and they get infinities, they know something's wrong and they've got to start the calculations over because it's flawed?
	Well, we've got this $87 trillion deficit, and it's impossible to pay.
	It's straight up on the graph infinity, so if something's wrong, all I can say is buy silver and gold.
	Thanks, Alex.
	You're right.
	Yeah, there's no way to ever pay it back.
	It's many times bigger than any economies combined.
	It's designed.
	They designed these Federal Reserve Central Bank systems as Ponzi schemes.
	It's meant to make you all destitute.
	Then they create a new monetary system, buy everything up with that new system when they start it.
	And then they pose as our saviors after they do it to us.
	Hello friends, Alex Jones here, and I'm excited to announce we're going to have a huge 9-11 conference in downtown Los Angeles on the 24th and 25th of June.
	We're expecting around 1,000 people in attendance.
	At this historic event, we will irrefutably document that 9-11 was an inside job, a self-inflicted wound, a false flag terror operation.
	The conference is titled 9-11 and the Neocon Agenda.
	I'm happy to announce the conference will feature presentations by incredible speakers like BYU physics professor Stephen Jones, the father of the Star Wars program, Lieutenant Colonel Robert Bowman, former top-level CIA analyst for Reagan and Bush, Ray McGovern, 9-11 hero William Rodriguez, author Webster Turnbull, Professor Jim Fetzer, and many, many others, including special guests.
	I'll also be debuting my exclusive new film, Terror Storm, at the conference.
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	Johnny, Sam, Paul, I'm going to try to cram you three guys in right now.
	I just want to say it's been great working with everybody, fighting a new world order.
	And I plan to be living a long time, and I love life.
	But we all need to be thankful for the lives we've had, the lives we've led.
	And I just never really thank you, the listeners.
	It's great knowing you.
	It's great working with you.
	And I look forward to working with you for a long time in the future.
	But all of us need to count every day as our last.
	And know that it isn't how many toys we have at the end of it that matters.
	It's what we do.
	It's the mark we set.
	It's the good things we do.
	It's leaving the world a better place than we left it.
	That's what life's really all about.
	And you'll be fulfilled if you have that attitude.
	These people that just want more, want more, want more.
	They're the most unhappy people I know.
	Johnny in Virginia.
	Johnny, go ahead.
	Alex, good evening.
	Hi.
	I just wanted to touch on the point you made.
	You were talking about...
	All the nuclear, the depleted uranium, you mentioned chemtrails and so forth.
	To me, that would almost indicate that World War III is...
	A little broader than fighting any particular enemy.
	No, it's fighting the American people.
	It's exterminating us.
	That's right.
	Folks, do you understand that I looked the numbers up?
	One in about 45 people got diabetes 50, 60 years ago.
	Now it's one in three.
	I mean, they're killing us, folks.
	And, you know, what bothers me is that our troops are...
	Yes, sir.
	They're in the same shape that the Iraqi people.
	They're already dead and don't even know it.
	And how is that supporting them, marching them in to breathe that poison?
	I know.
	That's right.
	And then they bring it home.
	It's in the jet stream, sir.
	The detectors have been picking it up.
	That's right.
	Eight times safe levels.
	And the people behind this, I call them VIM.
	They're already setting things up here in this country.
	You've already pointed that out.
	And
	And since they didn't follow the people in the amnesty, you know amnesty?
	Sir, I appreciate your call.
	Thank you.
	Let's go ahead and take another call here.
	Let's go ahead and talk to Sam.
	Sam, where are you calling us from?
	I'm calling from Minnesota.
	Hi.
	It's an honor to talk to you.
	I've been listening to you for about three, four years now.
	Martial Law really woke me up.
	Loose Chains, Second Edition really woke me up.
	Okay, anything else, sir?
	Let me just give my website real quick.
	ErraticProductions.com.
	E-R-R-A-T-I-K Productions.com.
	Okay, thank you.
	Let's talk to Paul.
	Paul, where are you calling us from?
	Go ahead.
	Vancouver, Canada.
	You've got about a minute.
	Okay, I just want to know, I heard you talking about Atlanta being the capital of the North American Union.
	I was just wondering if you could point me in a direction to do a little bit more research about that.
	I'd type into Google, Atlanta chosen as North American Union capital, and I've seen a bunch of mainstream news articles.
	There's a committee that set it up.
	I've been seeing that for six, seven years.
	Six, seven years ago, it was a debate between Miami and Atlanta, but the committee settled, I think, about two years ago on it being Atlanta.
	Thank you for that.
	Okay, great.
	Thank you, sir.
	We're out of time for this hour.
	When we come back in the next hour, I had him on Monday.
	It's such an important discussion with one of the chief CIA analysts, poor Ronald Reagan and George Bush Sr., about the upcoming World War III that I'm going to re-air this.
	I don't do this very often.
	Maybe once a month I re-air an interview, but this is so important we need to do this.
	So get your tape recorders going.
	Digitally record this.
	Get this out to everybody.
	Now is the time.
	To get this out to everyone you know.
	And to call your congressmen, to call them to talk radio.
	It's not like Iran's just going to lay there.
	If Iran's attacked, they're going to strike back.
	The government wants that.
	And then we'll all, hey, we've been hit!
	We've got to fight them!
	How dare them fight back against us?
	I mean, it's going to be horrible.
	They're escalating it by design.
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	Big Brother.
	Government cover-ups.
	Mainstream media.
	You want answers?
	Well, so does he.
	He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
	And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
	We've got senior former CIA analyst for Reagan and Bush Sr.
	joining us coming up in the next segment.
	Articles here, data indicates Border Patrol buildups ineffective.
	They were designed to be that way.
	We also have reports here, babies aborted for not being perfect in England.
	This is becoming more and more widespread.
	Right now, let's go to some more of your calls than Ray McGovern.
	And by the way, John, just so we have it when McGovern joins us, find the last John Stewart piece we heard about two weeks ago where he talks about Ray McGovern.
	I want to play that clip coming in.
	Let's go ahead and talk to Chris in Philadelphia.
	Chris, welcome.
	Thanks, Alex.
	I'm a first-time caller, long-time listener, and an owner of 75% of your information.
	I'd just like to say good job, and I'll be really brief.
	I got three points and a question.
	The first point being, I want you to elaborate off air, is the Malthus Principle of population control.
	And the second point is the Hegelian dialect and the materialistic dialect.
	And the question is, what about organization of the militias?
	I heard your comments on Friday, and the guy was saying we have to do this through peaceful means, and I just don't think that's possible.
	And I'd like to see you have some, you know, like real reputable militia guys on your show.
	And I have another point to make about male tampering.
	David J. Smith's stuff that's been going out to his people has been getting tampered with.
	My boss had his envelope opened by the U.S.
	Postal Service and said, sorry, we opened your mail.
	I never got that one.
	I had to call back David J. Smith's wife, and she sent me out another one.
	That too was opened, but at least I got this one.
	Well, they admit now they searched the mail.
	Again, we always heard about Russia and China now.
	We live under that, but the border stays wide open.
	Oh, yeah, of course.
	I mean, you said short, and these are all great comments and questions.
	Let me go ahead and start trying to address the issues you brought up.
	But first off, anything else you want to add?
	I'd like to tell you two, Alex.
	In Norrisville, Montgomery County, they set up an oligarchy, and this is in Pennsylvania.
	They admit they're not going to have a mayor anymore because the mayor squandered the money.
	Now a four-person city council is going to run a large town borough out there.
	Oh, yes, you've gone into economic crisis, so a private consortium will have to run things now?
	Well, the city council made up of four members.
	And the other report is Homeland Security was in the vicinity of Philadelphia International Airport.
	They had our perimeter set up, and that was about a month ago, so I'd just like to report that to you.
	Thank you.
	I appreciate the call.
	Lord Malthus, he came up with this idea, what was it, like 200 years ago, 170 years ago?
	I forget.
	I've read about him.
	The point is, is he said that the people are basically scum, that who cares if they die in factories, or who cares if they starve to death, that the elite has a right to rule over them, and there's too many people, and so just don't even take care of the population, they're basically worthless.
	And that grew in the next hundred years into social Darwinism, saying it's the elite's right to be abusive and evil and do bad things to us, because it's their social Darwinistic view that it's selective development with evolution, and that they're actually helping the earth by being ruthless, and because they are ruthless, that gives them a right to rule, and it just goes on and on.
	So that's the Malthusian theory.
	As it is known.
	And you had a bunch of other questions.
	There were so many I couldn't keep track of all of them.
	But we're going to go to break now and come back with Ray McGovern.
	I mean, the whole Malthusian theory fits nicely into Dr. Pianca here at UT Austin saying 90% of us need to die.
	The dying needs to start now.
	He's ready for his family to die.
	It's sad, but he's ready to go first.
	And then his own students write...
	It's not that they want power, they're just trying to save the earth.
	It's a rationale for total control.
	Hello friends, Alex Jones here, and I'm excited to announce we're going to have a huge 9-11 conference in downtown Los Angeles on the 24th and 25th of June.
	We're expecting around 1,000 people in attendance.
	At this historic event, we will irrefutably document that 9-11 was an inside job, a self-inflicted wound, a false flag terror operation.
	The conference is titled 9-11 and the Neocon Agenda.
	I'm happy to announce the conference will feature presentations by incredible speakers like BYU physics professor Stephen Jones, the father of the Star Wars program, Lieutenant Colonel Robert Bowman, former top-level CIA analyst for Reagan and Bush, Ray McGovern, 9-11 hero William Rodriguez, author Webster Tarman, Professor Jim Fetzer, and many, many others, including special guests.
	I'll also be debuting my explosive new film, Terror Storm, at the conference.
	Arm yourself with the truth.
	Secure your tickets today at infoawards.com or prisonplanet.com or by calling toll-free 888-253-3139.
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	Well, so does he.
	He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
	And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
	The criminal neocons know that their time is short.
	It's a Ponzi scheme.
	They've just got to keep pumping up the bubble.
	Or it'll pop, it'll burst and implode in on them.
	So to cover up all the past corruption and bid rigging and all the war profiteering and the domestic corruption, they just hurdle forward headlong saying, no, no, no, we're dictators.
	We're above the law.
	And so we're turning up the heat.
	I'm here on Memorial Day, Ray McGovern, senior CIA analyst, advisor to Ronald Reagan, George Bush Sr., and others in the agency 27 years.
	We're good to go.
	Rumsfeld, on his lies, and by the way, I've got a new film coming out that isn't really about 9-11.
	We spent about 15 minutes on 9-11.
	Most of the film is about Iraq and the lies.
	And, I mean, I had so many clips of Rumsfeld saying that they found WMDs or knew where they were or we know he has weapons of mass destruction that I couldn't even put them all in the film.
	It took a long time to go dig all these up.
	We did.
	And then he has the nerve to lie again and say to McGovern, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	I never said that.
	So let's play this little clip.
	And notice how the media responded and attacked McGovern.
	Attacked McGovern for simply saying the emperor has no clothes.
	So let's roll this clip, and we'll be joined by a great American patriot, Ray McGovern.
	Here it is.
	A little comedic gag.
	And obviously, any time Zachary releases a tape, it's news.
	But sometimes, it just happens.
	How is that covered?
	For example, last week in Atlanta, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld was giving a speech when he was suddenly interrupted.
	There was Screaming Lady, and then of course Screaming Fellow also joined in, and then Screaming Lady with War Crimes Back.
	Typical, easily dismissed crackpots doing the same old... Wait, I'm sorry sir, you had a question?
	I'm Ray McGovern, a 27-year veteran of the Central Intelligence Agency.
	Why did you lie to get us into a war that was not necessary and that has caused these kinds of casualties?
	Rough row.
	First of all, I haven't lied.
	Oh!
	He didn't lie!
	All right, well that settles it, everybody.
	There's Tom Cake in the back.
	We can all have a nice time.
	It appears that there were not weapons of mass destruction there.
	You said you knew where they were.
	I did not.
	See?
	He never said he knew where they were.
	We know where they are.
	They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and East Yastak and some more.
	Well, to be fair, Rumsfeld probably never saw that episode of Meet the Press.
	So the Secretary of Defense caught in a contradiction about weapons of mass destruction.
	Surely that will be a big story.
	How much of an ax do you have to grind with Secretary Rumsfeld?
	But he wasn't just any heckler.
	Were you nervous?
	Tucker, I resent the word heckler.
	I'd like you to take that back.
	Okay, I'm not taking it back.
	Rumsfeld encouraged whoever, I think, had their hands on you at the time to let you stay there.
	Does he get any credit for that today?
	Isn't it enough that he was wrong and had bad judgment?
	Why does he have to be a liar, too?
	Well, you know, that's the question you have to direct to him.
	But won't.
	To be fair, one news network was able to question Rumsfeld personally.
	No holds barred.
	So when you hear people say, we won the war, but we lost the peace.
	Oh, that's nonsense.
	So it's your way or the highway is not true.
	It is so wrong, it's just unbelievable.
	Mmm, that's some good old-fashioned muck polishing.
	Yes, as Iraq continues to spiral out of control and criticism of Rumsfeld grows, Fox News decided it was time to take an in-depth look at the issue.
	Yes, why he fights, an hour-long, unvestigative report into the real Donald Rumsfeld, hosted by Necklace Johnson.
	He wears a pedometer on his belt to count every step he takes, every day.
	But even for a former college wrestler who still did one-arm push-ups.
	People magazine that named him one of the year's sexiest men.
	Wow, what a year of sexiest men.
	I believe, though, that was a pretty off year for sexy men.
	If I remember correctly, that was the year Tom Bosley won.
	Now, the special did include interviews with Rumsfeld critic General Paul Van Riper, one of the officers who had called for Rumsfeld's resignation.
	I'm sure there'll be no change in the reporter's inflection.
	What are you trying to accomplish by doing this?
	And you don't think this debate threatens the civilian leadership of the military?
	Does that hurt the war effort?
	I can't tell if I'm smelling the fairness or the balance.
	But ultimately, why he fights could only end with why.
	That is a piece of the airplane that crashed into this building.
	It's a wonderful reminder to people who come in here of what happened.
	Wonderful?
	Couldn't have gone with stark or vivid or effective?
	It's almost like you're enjoying this.
	We'll be right back.
	You said you knew where they were, near Tikrit, near Baghdad, and northeast, south, and west of there.
	Those are your words.
	They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south, and north somewhat.
	All right, Ray McGovern, thanks for sitting through that on this Memorial Day.
	Thank you for joining us, sir.
	First time I heard the whole thing.
	Well, right out of the gates, will you respond to what happened in that meeting up in Virginia and then the media firestorm that erupted?
	Actually, it was down in Atlanta.
	It was completely serendipitous.
	I was down there for a totally different reason, and when I heard he was coming down to give a lecture, I...
	I had to use, actually, some of my old tradecraft to wangle a ticket, but I invested $40, and that still stings, by the way, and got into his lecture and sat near the microphone that would be used for questions and answers.
	So it was fortuitous, and I guess what really turned me on or off, depending on how you look at it, Alex, is when one of those ladies who was protesting said, you know, you've told a lot of lies, you've told a lot of lies, and
	And Rumsfeld, you've probably seen him do this, he sort of wrung his hands and said, gosh, you know, when people accuse the President of telling lies, I just, you know, she didn't accuse the President of telling lies, she accused Rumsfeld.
	But he went on and he said, that is just so corrosive, so destructive of the trust that is necessary for
	For government to work.
	It's just so, so wrong.
	And then he went on to the next question.
	I said to myself, oh my goodness, you know, I have to ask some question of him just to throw his words back on him and show that he's the consummate liar.
	As luck would have it, I got second in line and was able to do that on live TV.
	Now let's be clear, and you're right, Atlanta, you're there, there are people who are standing up saying things, but you're in the line to ask questions, that's why you're mic'd.
	That's why we can hear you, but then some of the media tried to imply that you were a heckler, when in reality you were there asking questions, and then security came over and was basically telling you to knock it off.
	Can you go over what actually happened there?
	Sure, yeah.
	I was not heckling, of course.
	I was in line, and he came to me, called on me, and you heard how I started.
	After I got into it, and he seemed to be getting a little bit uncharacteristically unnerved, this big guy comes down with a white coat.
	A white coat, actually.
	And a black baseball cap.
	And since he knew the cameras were coming well from the back, he placed himself around and in front of me, put his elbow in my solar plexus and started driving me out of the arena.
	That's when I cried out, this is America.
	And when Rumsfeld saw that, he had an instant decision to make.
	And he made the right one from his point of view.
	I mean, it just would have been
	Pretty bad PR to have someone who is simply asking him a question, which he already lied about, to be sort of carried out of this conference.
	Well, Bush had me kidnapped at a press conference for asking a question he didn't like, and he directed them, they grabbed me, they put me in the police car, drove me around for an hour, threw me out on the side of the highway.
	So this has been going on for a while, but what does it say about the mentality that you're in line to ask a question
	And Rumsfeld hasn't even told them to grab you, but still they're physically manhandling you.
	Well, somebody pointed out, some very acute observer, that Rumsfeld did sort of give a little wink to the back of the room when he got into a little bit of trouble with me.
	Yeah, that's what Bush did with me.
	They look at him and then look at you.
	Yeah, and then the guy came down.
	And then when Rumsfeld saw the choice here, had me carried out,
	Or try to persist a little bit and put me down.
	He, of course, is the champion Princeton debater, and he exuded this confidence and said, oh, no, no, no, let him stay for a second.
	And thankfully, that second expanded into two more minutes.
	Well, they've got a problem.
	No one that I know, and the polls show this, is buying their baloney anymore, Ray McGovern.
	And so the credibility gap is there.
	Bush is plunging down to 28 percentage points, which is a record.
	Where do you see this going?
	Well, just focusing on Rumsfeld, you know, none other than pundit Jim Hoagland, no liberal he,
	Has pointed out that when Rumsfeld runs into difficulty, he expands the problem.
	And that's what I worry about.
	I worry about Iran, which seems to be next on their agenda.
	Doesn't make any sense, but neither did Iraq.
	Yeah, let's talk about Olbert coming here.
	We've got Blair coming to the U.S.
	They're having the war councils.
	And we talk about that Ponzi scheme always inflating it.
	The next crisis to cover the last.
	We'll be right back with Ray McGovern.
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	We can't back down from the neocon agenda.
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	They admit that themselves, Ray McGovern Sr., retired CIA analyst, worked for Reagan and Bush and many others.
	Mr. McGovern, this is a short segment, long segment coming up, plenty of time to get into details, but no one wants to attack Iran, that is the people, but they seem to have now gotten more of the Europeans on board, the Chinese and Russians aren't right now, but I wouldn't count on that.
	Israel, Obert was here, as you know, last week.
	They're talking about attacking, even if we don't, but trying to draw us in.
	Blair's running around announcing a new doctrine of preemptive policy,
	Progressivism is what he calls it.
	I mean, I think these nuts are really going to try to do it.
	Can you give us in a nutshell the analysis of what's driving this?
	I think I can, Alex.
	I've been thinking a lot about this here.
	First off, people who say this is a crazy thing to do are absolutely right.
	They must realize, though, that the crazy filter is not applied to decisions like this by the White House.
	What's happening here is that the US and Israel are using each other.
	Bush and company, in their vision, which is well explained in the Project for the New American Century documents, are determined to dominate that part of the world.
	It's kind of hard just to say, hey, we're the sole remaining superpower of the world, and so we're just going to do what we have to to dominate the part of the world.
	What they think they need to do more cleverly is to say our ally, Israel.
	Of course, Israel is not our ally.
	I hope your listeners know that.
	There is no defense treaty with Israel.
	Our ally Israel is in danger from a nuclear weapon being delivered by Iran.
	It doesn't matter that they're 700 years off of a nuclear weapon, but this is the argument.
	And so it's much easier for the Bush regime to say, look, this is a matter of a mutual security obligation.
	Of which there exists none.
	And we need to spring to Israel's defense.
	Of course, Congress is beholden to all that money they get from the Israel lobby, and specifically AIPAC.
	And so, just as they did with Iraq in writing letters to the president, we need regime change in Iraq, they're doing the same thing now for regime change in Iran.
	Now, as far as the Israelis are concerned, this is great for them.
	None of the usual obligations of a neutral defense treaty.
	They don't even have to tell us when they take off after another country.
	And more than that, they get a neutral defense treaty in reality because the president, as he has three times in the last couple of months,
	Keeps referring to Israel as our ally to whom we are obligated to spring to their defense.
	Well, Ray McGovern, isn't it really a mutual attack treaty?
	Because Israel's saying they're going to probably go ahead and attack Iran and then I see people in the Knesset every week criticizing the U.S.
	for not already attacking them.
	I mean, this is ridiculous.
	Yeah, the question is whether they have the capability of doing the job themselves.
	Most of the folks I talk to
	What about Seymour Hersh's reports and other foreign reports?
	I've found Hersh to be very credible in the past that special forces have been there sneaking around for a year surveilling targets.
	Alex, not only Special Forces, U.S.
	Marines.
	Okay.
	U.S.
	Marines and Special Forces ordered there by the same Donald Rumsfeld without any congressional authorization.
	Without any specific decision memorandum.
	But think about what a provocation that is.
	Iran knows that we've got troops in their country.
	Imagine if they were doing this to us.
	Of course they know.
	As a matter of fact, they've captured some of the minority folks that are cooperating with these troops.
	So they're ready.
	They're ready for action.
	They're hoping against hope that we won't do it.
	Oh my gosh!
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	And then we add this fake story, totally manufactured about making Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians wear pieces of cloth, including yellow for Jews.
	Turns out it was completely and totally made up.
	Even the Jewish member of the Mullahs or of their ruling council there said it's total propaganda.
	It's like the babies and the incubators.
	Yeah, they're in Kuwait.
	Stay there.
	Stay there, sir.
	I want to get your analysis on that.
	How the attack will come down.
	What Iran is going to do.
	Because they're considering it an act of premeditated aggression if Iran fights back.
	They're actually saying it will be a terrorist attack if Iran fights back.
	And they're talking about nuking them if they fight back.
	This is unbelievable.
	We're about to have World War III, boys and girls.
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	Going back to Ray McGovern.
	Mr. McGovern, go through this for us, because we know that they're saying they want to hit them.
	We know they're saying they need to hit them.
	We know that Cheney's saying they can have nukes within a month, when the CIA's own assessment last year is ten years.
	We have you talking about that in the new film, Terror Storm.
	But earlier you said seven years.
	I guess there's some new assessment.
	And then we have all this propaganda.
	We were talking about that before the break, claiming they were going to put...
	Special symbols on Jews and Christians.
	Again, total fabrication.
	And then my other question is, have we seen three carrier groups mass in the last year?
	I mean, is this the first time we've seen this configuration?
	What are you hearing from people inside the government?
	Break it down for us, and then what we'll see if this attack takes place, what some of the different scenarios are, sir.
	Well, there is one carrier task force already there in the Gulf.
	Two are steaming toward it.
	And that last report that I have at least, they will all be there in another week or so.
	The folly of this attack can be explained partly by the same folly that we experienced in Vietnam where
	Well, the folks with the blue suits and the stars on their lapels tell the president, hey, you know, we can bomb the hell out of these folks and we have these precision bombs and we can just do the job.
	Don't have to worry about anything else.
	And so it seems to me that the first attempt will simply be bombing, using stealth bombers and others and cruise missiles and so forth in hopes that enough of the known facilities having to do with nuclear facilities there in Iran will be taken out.
	What these folks never think of is what happens the next day, you know?
	And that's, I think, what you're asking.
	Well, what happens the next day is this...
	Iran is in command, and I mean in command, of a terrorist network worldwide that makes al-Qaeda look like the Mount Sinai volleyball team.
	These guys really can do a lot of damage, and they can do it here in this country as well.
	That's number one.
	Number two, they have sophisticated weaponry that can skim across the waves of the Gulf and sink ships like U.S.
	ships and other ships.
	Cruise missiles?
	Yeah.
	Well, actually, these are line-of-sight missiles.
	They're very, very fast, and they're very, very effective.
	Is that the Exocet or Silkworm?
	They're both.
	The Silkworm was the latest, but now I understand there's an even more advanced version of that.
	And then finally, of course, those of you who have a little grain here will relate to this.
	The Iranians can easily send three divisions of Revolutionary Guard troops right over the yellow, you know?
	By the yellow, I mean the long border with Iraq.
	And they'll fight.
	They had almost no real military hardware, and up against $30 billion of U.S.
	funding, beat Saddam.
	They did.
	Toe to toe.
	The problem is, you know, where are our guys?
	Well...
	Our guys are all over to Crip and Baghdad and Ramadi, and they're looking for terrorists, of course, and so they're not in any position to contend with an invasion of Iraq, an invasion welcomed by the local Sunni population.
	And so what's going to happen then?
	Well, my worst fear is that when that goes up, or that comes down, as we say these days, there's going to be an irresistible urge to
	To use what we do have.
	And of course, what we do have are these mini-nukes.
	And this crowd makes no real distinction between high-explosive weaponry and these little mini-nukes.
	They're no big deal.
	And that will unleash a Pandora's box and we'll be in real deep cliche, not only in the immediate area, but
	With people like the Russians and people like the Chinese.
	Well, that's the point I wanted to bring up next, but let me just digress back with a few questions.
	Jack Straw, big neocon, pro-war.
	A few weeks ago, he says openly, this is crazy.
	The words he used were your words.
	This is crazy to attack Iran.
	It'll be total destabilization, World War III, boom.
	He's forced to resign a day later.
	Yeah, well, that's what happens if you don't get with the program.
	You either get forced to resign or you do resign.
	This doesn't happen very much.
	But it's got to be bad when even their stalwarts like Strom, and we've had now eight generals, it's not six, there were two before him, eight generals come out and say that this is totally horrible.
	Mr. McGovern, we know that Rumsfeld isn't stupid.
	We know about P2OG.
	And clearly, you talked about when he's in trouble widening something's the plan.
	They know Iran's going to go totally ape.
	They know there's going to be attacks all over the Middle East and the Western world.
	They'll call them all terrorist attacks.
	And then we're going to see Bush widen it, national draft, and then, oh, America's in trouble, our troops are being overrun, we've got to fully commit.
	I mean, isn't that really their plan?
	And then I think you will see Bush's approval ratings explode because Americans will get behind the leader, but it'll be a crisis he puts us in the way of by design.
	I mean, sir, you're a great analyst.
	I agree with your analysis.
	Don't you see there, or do you agree or do you disagree, or give us your take, on they're doing this on purpose.
	They know what's going to happen.
	Their analysts are telling them what's going to happen.
	They know what you just said is true.
	So they understand this.
	Well, there are two things here, Alex.
	Hubris, arrogance, and ignorance.
	None of these guys know the first thing about military affairs.
	The only person who really served was Rumsfeld, and I think he was between Korea and Vietnam.
	Never saw any real combat.
	Never involved in strategy.
	He just flew planes.
	Yeah, you know, so he's like McNamara.
	He knows it all because he went to Ivy League school, that kind of stuff.
	The other thing is the president's approval ratings, or disapproval ratings, more correctly said, which you alluded to earlier on.
	And that has an awful lot to do with this, and has a lot to do with my fear that this would come soon.
	Look at them.
	They're on 28%, 29%.
	I can see Karl Rove saying, look, what you need to do is become a war president again.
	Get us involved in something pretty big here and then strut around and say, you can't vote for a bunch of Democrats to pull the rug out from under me while there's a war going on in November.
	You know, that kind of thing.
	So I see that as one of the primary incentives for them to unleash this thing.
	And again, they have no real...
	They have no real expertise to draw on.
	I mean, we suggested and we pleaded with the President before the war in Iraq.
	On the same day as Colin Powell spoke, we finished our memo saying, Mr. President, we strongly urge you to broaden the circle of your advisors beyond those already bent on a war for which we see no cogent reason and from which we believe the unintended consequences are likely to be catastrophic.
	Now, you know, we take no delight in being right there, but we take great pain and great worry of seeing the circle narrowing even more.
	Not even Colin Powell, for whatever he was worth, he knew a couple of things these others didn't.
	He's not even there again.
	And I just add this footnote here because it seems really relevant.
	The only time that, in my experience, I've been watching things for 43 years now in Washington...
	The only time we really came close to a nuclear exchange was during the Cuban Missile Crisis, and we avoided that primarily for one reason and one reason only, and that was that John Kennedy had the presence of mind to insist that Llewellyn Thompson, who had just retired from being ambassador to Moscow for a scanty eight years, to insist that Llewellyn Thompson be there at every decision meeting, every consultation meeting.
	And so when Curtis LeMay, the head of the Air Force, had his nuclear weapons all loaded up in his bombers, and they were all set to take off, Llewellyn Thompson said, Sir, Mr. President, I do not agree.
	And everybody looked up, and he says, What did you say?
	Mr. President, I disagree.
	And then John Kennedy listened to him, and what Llewellyn Thompson said was this, Look, you have two messages from Khrushchev,
	One is a conciliatory one.
	One is a bellicose one, probably done with the generals looking over his shoulder.
	Respond to the first one.
	I'll bet you, Mr. President, that he's looking for an easy way to get out of this mess that he created for himself.
	Kennedy said, we'll go with Llewellyn's plan for the time being.
	You know the rest of the story.
	Why am I mentioning this?
	We got a conciliatory message from the Iranian president.
	Yeah, we do.
	Okay.
	You know, the parallel is really intriguing, because the bottom line is, Alex, and this is really scary.
	The bottom line is the Iranian president lost a lot of face doing that.
	They'd never done that before, and Bush didn't even read it before they responded.
	Exactly.
	And from our side, there just ain't no Llewellyn Thompson around now.
	And if there were, he'd not be permitted anywhere near the inner circle of the presidency.
	So we have Cheney and Rumsfeld.
	We have the cabal that is so well described by Colin Powell's chief of state, Larry Wilkerson.
	They're making all the decisions, and they're the ones responsible for Iraq's
	In a lighter vein, Alex, I have a solution.
	What we ought to do is have Congress pass a bill.
	Making it unlawful for President Bush to attack any country whose president has a name that Bush can't pronounce.
	That should give us a couple of weeks at least.
	Ahmed Ajad, I have trouble pronouncing it.
	I do too, but it would take our president for a while to do that.
	No, seriously, it's a very, very serious situation.
	Congress is willing to let Rumsfeld do what he wants.
	I mean, he's got U.S.
	Marines inside Iran now without any allusion to Congress.
	Well, this is like Hitler turning east and going up against Russia when he had problems.
	We've now gotten the documents of Goebbels and Goering and, of course, Himmler's debates.
	We're good to go.
	We're good to go.
	You know, you've said that the mosque bombing, some of the things we've seen have Western intelligence written all over it.
	What about our own governments or someone in the government or a private group staging some event and then claiming Iran has carried it out as a prelude to attacking Iran or even once Iran is attacked, intelligence agencies launching something in Europe or the U.S.
	and then claiming Iran did that.
	Your take on that?
	Well, Alex, that's altogether possible.
	That's altogether possible, and I would say even probable, because they would need some proximate cause, some casus belli to justify really unleashing things on Iran.
	And that would help, of course, and I would put very little past this crew.
	They're...
	The record of dissembling and disingenuousness is unparalleled.
	Well, look at the, which I'm glad you brought up on national TV.
	I brought it up on CNN as well.
	We're the only two that have done it and gotten through the Berlin Wall of Media Control, the Iron Curtain.
	But the White House memo is much more important than Downing Street.
	I mean, we have them talking about painting up a plane like a U.N.
	plane and trying to get it shot down or saying a defector found WMDs.
	I mean, these guys, that is the smoking gun.
	That's right.
	And, you know, the whole thing was that they knew that they weren't weapons of mass destruction, so they're going to have to do something else or something to hasten the process of doing a war.
	Let me say another word, Alex, about the electoral business here.
	The stakes could not be larger for this administration, because if the Democrats take the House in November...
	There will be, in my view, impeachment proceedings for sure.
	I've had two congressmen on this show say that as well.
	It's 100% impeachment, then the whole crime cabal will get blown.
	That's exactly right.
	There will be investigations for the next two years.
	Now, those could be consequential.
	People can get impeached, but also people can get thrown into jail, as we saw last week with the Enron types.
	Ken Lay, six counts.
	Yeah, so there's a lot riding on this thing.
	And so...
	It behooves the President, or I'm sure Cheney, Gonzalez, Rove, and the rest of them are saying, Mr. President, we've got to prevent this at any cost.
	And if it means using our smart weaponry to do the job on Iran, well, let's just go ahead and do it.
	What about Israel?
	We noticed it was the ADL out of Canada that first put out the fake report of Jews having to wear basically yellow stars.
	Again, total lie now, folks.
	Totally retracted, but quietly.
	Why is Israel jumping up and down?
	Why do they want an attack on Iran?
	I mean, they're not really threatened by Iran right now.
	Why?
	Well, there are two things here.
	First, we need to be a little careful when we talk about Israel.
	This is a clique of right-wing Likud types.
	No, I understand.
	I'm talking about the leadership, though.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And they are kind of way out in front.
	And what I would emphasize is that they are incredibly short-sighted.
	Look what happened in Iraq.
	Part of the objective, which I'm convinced it was,
	Was to make Israel more secure.
	Well, you know, there weren't any terrorists in Iraq before we invaded there.
	Now it's teeming with terrorists, a lot of them out to do Israel in, okay?
	So that's one thing.
	The other thing is that, you know, from a general perspective, the Israelis do not want to take any chances that any country, especially Iran, would erode its nuclear monopoly in the Middle East.
	They have 300 to 400 nuclear weapons there.
	Nobody mentions that.
	But they want to keep that monopoly, and they see it as a big infringement on their security, where Iran could get even just one or two weapons.
	Now, Ahmadinejad makes it easy for the Israelis to raise the flag.
	If they look, they're going to zomp us as soon as they get a weapon.
	I don't think it will happen, because that would be suicide for Iran.
	Ahmed Dinejad.
	I want to talk about if you were Ahmed Dinejad, what would Ray McGovern do if you were Ahmed Dinejad?
	What would you do right now to try to avert this?
	And in closing, what do you think Iran and China are going to do when and if this attack takes place?
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	I'm going to ask Ray McGovern to grace us with another five minutes into the next hour.
	Then I'm going to run a rebroadcast of a pastor we had on last week.
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	That domestically they can take over as well.
	Ray McGovern, can you comment on all of the preparations we've seen for domestic Stasi-type operations, sir?
	Not in five minutes, Alex.
	Well, I mean, just briefly?
	No, I'm sorry.
	The list is very long.
	I'll tell you one that hit really close to home, and one that people don't know about.
	In the Intelligence Authorization Bill,
	That Pete Herkstra, the head of the House Intelligence Committee, he put in a provision which says this.
	The Director of National Intelligence shall prepare a study in 90 days to determine whether he, under existing authorities, can suspend the pensions of CIA pensioners
	For talking about classified material or whether he needs additional authorities.
	Now, that's creeping fascism right there.
	In other words, they determine what's classified information.
	If that gets passed, I'm not going to be able to talk on your radio program anymore.
	I'll be liable to be wrapped up here in some sort of dragnet.
	So that's the kind of thing that's happening.
	On the NSA thing, as you probably know, Congressman Hinchey from New York asked the Justice Department to look into what advice the Justice Department had given NSA to say that that thing was legal, and guess what happened?
	After two months, the Justice Department responded to Congressman Hinchey saying, sorry, we have to drop the investigation because NSA will not give us the clearances we need to investigate NSA.
	That's happened now with the FCC as well.
	And that's dictatorship when they say, oh, the military or this government arm is telling us in enforcement what we can do.
	What do you see happening with Iran and Syria?
	If Iran is attacked, what do you think Russia and China will do?
	We know Russia just sold a bunch of high-tech anti-aircraft systems to Iran.
	Well, I think that if I were Ahmadinejad, I would be asking the Chinese and the Russians for some sort of...
	Military support.
	Some sort of pledge that they won't stand idly by to watch this kind of exercise.
	What Ahmadinejad has already done was quite unprecedented.
	The first time in 27 years that they communicated with us that long letter.
	I advise everyone to download that letter and read it.
	It's really quite ironic sighting.
	Bush's professed Christianity and asking him to square that with the behavior that he's exhibited.
	What else would you do?
	I'd try to capture some of those folks that are in his country now.
	They've already captured some of the dissidents, and there are lots of them, that are being run by our covert operatives, not CIA types but defense types.
	And I've warned the Azerbaijanis, you know, the Azerbaijanis, that ethnic group comprises about 20-25% of the Iranian nation, and they are being egged on by all manner of folks supported by us, and
	I would warn the Azerbaijani government that if they let the US or anybody else, UK, use their country as a platform for this sort of thing, that they can expect some retaliation from Iran.
	And that's a credible threat because Iran has that capability.
	Then I'd seek support from the other states in the area because this would be beyond the pale.
	They really need that kind of extra support.
	Ray McGovern, a one-minute break.
	When we get back, we'll spend five final minutes with you.
	We really appreciate the time on this Memorial Day.
	This is such an important issue.
	World War III is upon us, or as the neocons call it, World War IV.
	They believe the Cold War was World War III, but this is a hot war.
	We'll be right back.
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