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Air Date: Jan. 20, 2006
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	Good morning!
	Good afternoon, good evening, ladies and gentlemen, wherever you're situated on this great big beautiful blue globe floating through the void of your creation.
	It's Friday, the 20th of January, 2005.
	And I don't know where this one came from.
	Joyce just threw this at me just before the mic went live.
	And after reading this supposed verbatim quote from G.W.
	Bush, anybody who saw this on television has...
	We've got to be brain dead if they don't recognize that we're at the crossroads and are asking themselves the question, where is my line in the sand?
	This is Dave Von Kleist.
	And Joyce Riley.
	We'll tell you what that's all about in just a few minutes.
	And I do think... I sure hope she doesn't.
	It is good.
	If he said this, he needs to be taken to a place that can protect him with rubber walls real soon, I think.
	Anyway, we are going to be talking about the news, and the news that they say is news is, ladies and gentlemen, of course, the lead story on CNN, major news networks today, is the Osama Bin Laden tape.
	We're going to talk about this tape, and if anybody believes that that's the real deal, then you know why we have bad intel.
	The CIA has now confirmed that this tape is true.
	Ladies and gentlemen, I know that you are so sick of the wag the dog government that we have, but it is absolutely in your face with this bin Laden tape.
	Now, of course, this is a tape that allegedly was released.
	It's an alleged tape, allegedly released in December, allegedly by Osama bin Laden, carried allegedly by Al Jazeera.
	And if you missed the discussion we had about Al Jazeera yesterday, then you know that Al Jazeera probably is not even the real deal, for sure, too.
	But anyway, that's supposed to be the big story.
	Now, we'll get into this because I think the Jill Carroll story dovetails into this.
	Right along with the story of, we've got another tape, we've got another tape.
	Michael Fortier is going to be released from prison.
	Remember who he is?
	We'll talk about that.
	Also, the Japanese, as of this morning, have now banned American beef again today.
	Don't know much about that story, but that's going to be a big hit to our industry over here.
	And let's look at what the real news is.
	The serious news is that Google has now been asked by the government to provide millions of requests over where you've been on the Internet, who you've been looking at, and of course this is all because people might be looking at pornography.
	That's the reason.
	Yeah, right.
	Yeah, that's the reason.
	Right.
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	Now, just which spice do you think that is?
	We'll tell you about that.
	And we have a Power Hour team member of the day.
	For approaching Congressman Thompson and handing him a copy of Beyond Treason, it made the newspaper.
	Really?
	At Fort Bragg.
	Cool.
	It made the newspaper.
	He is our team member of the day.
	We'll tell you why.
	And also, how many presidents do you think have been left-handed?
	We talked about it yesterday.
	Well, we have Len's answer here.
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	Hi, everybody, this is Davon Cloyce.
	And we all know knowledge is power, and that's why we call this the Power Hour!
	Excuse me, sir.
	Yes, what is it now?
	I have him outside, sir.
	Shall I bring him in?
	Yes, bring him in.
	Yes, sir.
	What is it?
	Listen, you boob.
	You'd better learn how to speak the English language.
	I've heard you speaking on that radio program where the opinions expressed are not necessarily those of the staff management or sponsors of this radio station.
	Now, you've done that disclaimer and botched it every single time.
	I want you to say it right now.
	Uh...
	The opinions repressed... Now that's expressed!
	Okay, the opinions expressed on this program are not necessarily... Shut up!
	Sit down!
	Necessarily!
	Necessarily!
	Necessarily!
	Say it!
	Necessarily...
	Those of the staff.
	Those of the staff?
	Management.
	Management?
	Or sponsors of this radio station.
	Or sponsors of this radio station.
	Very good.
	Now go and do it right next time.
	Okay.
	I will.
	Okay, I will.
	Well, I guess we know who he answers to.
	Oh, man.
	I guess we know who's in charge of him.
	No kidding, no kidding.
	Welcome to the Friday edition of the Power Hour.
	We all know that GW is not the leader of the free world.
	Come on, anybody that actually believes that has got to believe in the tooth fairy Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny.
	I mean, golly.
	If this man is the leader of the free world...
	As Paul Lynn used to say, we're in trouble.
	I know, we are in trouble.
	And you know what, Dave?
	I think they're going to have to retract something.
	Remember that book called Bush's Brain?
	Yeah.
	I think they're going to have to retract that.
	Retract his brain?
	Well, there's been no evidence found.
	And he has one!
	I know, but you know, and when people hear this statement a little bit later that we're going to read about him, I think they will understand what you're talking about.
	Anyway, welcome to the Power Hour.
	This is Joyce.
	And this is Dave.
	And as you have been listening to the television, oh please, I hope not.
	I hope not.
	Here's the main story of the day.
	Osama Bin Laden released, or excuse me, excuse me, allegedly, Osama Bin Laden released an alleged tape with the alleged message that they're not over, not finished with the United States.
	The war against America will not be confined to Iraq.
	Now this is the scary part, because even if it's not a real tape, then you know it's a CIA tape, which doesn't surprise any of the Power Hour listeners.
	But he says it will not be confined to Iraq.
	The war will not be confined.
	Another attack is in the works, in the heart of the land.
	That's the alleged statement, allegedly by Osama bin Laden.
	Which tells us, yeah, they're preparing something.
	Yeah, they're trying to get everybody ready.
	Yeah, they've got to do something.
	Because you know what happened?
	The Pakistan issue backfired in their face.
	They hit a bunch of innocent people, killed a bunch of children there, all the time saying, well, we thought that this guy was there.
	And, you know, they just have the right to go into any country and bomb anybody if they think somebody might be there with their bad intel that has never proven to be right in the past.
	I mean, remember when Bill Clinton bombed an aspirin factory?
	It's not just George Bush's administration that's doing all this.
	So now we've got a situation in which they've got a bunch of bad PR.
	And they want to go after Iran for all the wrong reasons.
	But be that as it may, they want to go get Iran.
	So they've got to set the stage and create all the atrocities again.
	So get ready for all the women who've had their left hand cut off.
	And all the women who had... I mean, just get ready for it.
	Because they have to do it to create a war.
	Because they can't create a war legitimately.
	So now what are we doing?
	Well, we're picking at everything the president of Iran says to prove that we've got to go over there and nuke this guy.
	Do you think that we're going to go nuke them before long or we're going to go attack Iran?
	I think everybody does because on television right now you are seeing it.
	Well, they're upping the ante.
	The plans are on the table.
	So, the first time I get a phone call from some major network media source who wants somebody who will look good in front of the TV set and be a good commentator for the next war, then you know we're about ready to go to war.
	And you can be assured, I will let you know.
	Alright, so we've got this problem with Osama Bin Laden's tape now, which a lot of people are saying is a phony tape, because all you have to do is look at it, and by the way, there is no sound on it, because...
	We're good to go.
	They don't want the war with Afghanistan, let alone a new war.
	You know, I want to jump, before you go right past that, there's no sound on the tape.
	This is not the first time this has happened.
	There's so many times where they will play a video of the quote-unquote Osama speaking, but they never allow you to hear the audio part of the tape.
	Now, there are a lot of folks out there that speak the language that could translate what he's saying, but maybe they don't want you to hear exactly what he's saying.
	They want to literally put the words in his mouth.
	Or maybe he's not saying anything.
	Or maybe this is an old tape.
	Or maybe they just made a whole bunch of footage of him and said, we'll just use this as we need it.
	Well, there's a Duke professor who is now skeptical of the bin Laden tape.
	This Duke professor says that he is doubtful about Thursday's audio tape from Osama bin Laden.
	Well, you and every Power Hour listener out there.
	Or, yes, you, sir, Bruce Lawrence, and every Genesis listener out there.
	Well, he has just published Messages to the World, the statements of Osama Bin Laden, a book translating Bin Laden's writings.
	He is skeptical.
	The guy who wrote the book on his messages is skeptical of Thursday's message.
	But you know what?
	I'm skeptical of Bruce Lawrence's message.
	Because when you read his reasons why, they're not the real reasons.
	It's another rabbit trail for you to follow.
	Lawrence says, it was like a voice from the grave.
	He thinks Bin Laden is dead and has doubts about the tape.
	Lawrence recently analyzed more than 20 complete speeches and interviews of the Al-Qaeda leader for the book.
	He says the new message is missing several key elements.
	Well, if he believed all the other 20 messages, then I don't believe him now.
	That's my position.
	There's nothing, he says, in this from the Koran.
	Oh, okay.
	He, by his own standards, a faithful Muslim, Lawrence said...
	He quotes scripture in defense of his actions.
	There's no quotations from the Koran in the excerpts that we got.
	No reference to specific events.
	No reference to past atrocities.
	Okay, that's supposed to be the reason that we don't pay any attention to this.
	Doesn't fly with me.
	When the CIA confirms the voice on the tape is bin Laden's, and by the way, this time, the CIA did confirm it is bin Laden.
	Now remember, all the past times,
	It's been, allegedly, Osama bin Laden.
	Could be, most likely, Osama bin Laden.
	Now, they've out and out said, this is the voice of Osama bin Laden, but unfortunately you didn't get to hear it, so, I mean, there's no way we can test that.
	Lawrence questions when it was recorded.
	He says the timing of the release could be to divert attention from last week's U.S.
	airstrike in Pakistan.
	I'm glad he agrees with me on that.
	The strike targeted bin Laden's deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri,
	So if he believes in Ayman al-Zawahiri, you know, he's the physician who's number two, who always has a gun behind him whenever he does an interview.
	Well, it led to the failed military operations where America got blamed, but the people who are really to blame are the ones who provided the intelligence.
	I think this is an effort to say we're not going to be looking at the terrible incident of the end about what happened.
	Now, he's talking about Pakistan, evidently.
	Another element that Lawrence takes issue with is bin Laden's latest message is its length.
	Now look how weak this is.
	The length of the message is only 10 minutes.
	The shortest prior to this was 18 minutes.
	See, nothing has anything to do with anything.
	I think that Mr. Lawrence is a rabbit trail.
	Now, at the same time you understand that we want to go get Iran, get Iran, get Iran.
	All terrorists are bad.
	All Muslims are bad.
	Just, you know, put them all together and let God sort them out.
	The reason that I think that Joe Carroll, who is this poor 28-year-old reporter...
	Got kidnapped is because they want a very sympathetic person.
	I mean, how sympathetic would you be if a Halliburton welder got... And I'm not putting down Halliburton welders.
	Please don't misunderstand.
	But how sympathetic would you be to go to war because a Halliburton welder who was making $180,000 every six months got kidnapped?
	We're good to go.
	Because remember the article they did?
	That there's a thousand times the amount of normal background radiation in Iraq now because of depleted uranium?
	You shouldn't have done the story.
	Too bad.
	Now your girl is missing.
	Oh, could they be that mean?
	Well, let's think.
	If they could kill 3,000 people in New York City, could they be that mean?
	Yes, they could.
	So Jill Carroll is the victim now.
	Now, why would the Iraqis, why would the Iraqis pick
	Jill Carroll, who's over there exposing the Iraq people's interests.
	Really, that's the first thought that came to my mind.
	I mean, she's been trying to help the Iraqis and help their cause, and the Science Christian Monitor has been trying to expose what the United States has done to the entire region with the DU issue.
	They also did a series about the Gulf War illness several years ago.
	I mean, the Science Christian Monitor has been trying to help the Iraqi people.
	Yeah, so why don't they go get some general in the Green Zone?
	If they want to make a statement, no, they're not going to do that.
	Because I don't think we're going to go get our own guys.
	Well, that remains to be seen.
	I may be proven wrong on that one.
	So, now we've got this alleged message, though, from Osama Bin Laden that says another attack is in the works.
	And he says the reason we haven't already done it is because we're busy planning the next one.
	Duh.
	This appeals to Bubba on the couch, I have to tell you.
	And the next one is going to be in the heart of the land.
	I wonder what that means.
	Heartland?
	Heart of the land?
	We'll be right back.
	Michael Fortier is going to be released from prison, and Dr. Doug Rocky is upset at the treatment he's getting.
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	In Oklahoma City, one fateful April day, the lives of many innocents were taken all away.
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	Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to the Friday edition of the Power Hour.
	Of course, the name of the song is OK, Can You See?
	And it's on the album Music to Die For.
	This is Dave Von Kleist.
	And Joyce Riley.
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	Michael Fortier is going to be released from prison today.
	Of course, you recall he was the star witness...
	Some said he was the star set-up witness against Tim McVeigh.
	The whole idea now is to resurrect the Oklahoma City bombing atrocity, so that's what they're doing now, is dragging out of the back room all of these poor people who have suffered horribly over the past ten years, dragging them in front of the media and, oh, wasn't it horrible when your loved one died?
	We're good to go.
	We're good to go.
	But just the tragedy though of using these people again from Oklahoma City is so sad when we know who the real real people were behind the operation.
	Okay, I want to move to a couple of other things here.
	There's a listener that is fed up with orange and blue, Dave.
	This is dedicated to you.
	Fed up with orange and blue.
	And by the way, we have authenticated this quote from George Bush, which at the bottom of the hour, have your tape players going, you are not going to believe this man is representing you.
	She handed this to me just as we were going on the air, about 30 seconds.
	I started reading this, and this was crazy.
	You are not going to believe it.
	Now, let me get to this letter from a listener.
	Mike in York, PA, is not happy about the orange and blue issue.
	Listen to this.
	And I will tell you, it's getting worse every single day.
	Hi, Joyce and Dave.
	Just wanted to drop you a line and comment on the ridiculous amount of orange and blue creeping into every last show and TV commercial.
	The use of colorization to existing commercials continues.
	You go, boy!
	Mike and I are on the same wavelength.
	I found me a buddy out there.
	I found somebody who can see what's going on.
	He says, the colorization continues, and it seems the idiots making these commercials can't have even a single scene without the ugly orange, and this includes a more subdued but equally obvious red-orange, there you go, right there, Dave, I've been telling you about the red-orange, in it somewhere.
	It's driving me crazy.
	You and me, Mike.
	It's working on us, isn't it?
	Also, the extensive use of those subtle blue filters on commercials, too.
	And Dave always says, oh, that's because the cameramen are outside and they use a blue filter.
	No!
	It's intentional.
	Like the Volvo commercials.
	Notice the faint blue cast the cars take.
	Every single car on TV that's being sold this year is either blue or orange.
	It's the filter.
	I want to say it's a filter, stupid.
	How about commercials where every dolt is walking around in a blue or orange shirt?
	Now, I went downtown for sales yesterday, and I didn't see anybody walking around together in blue and orange.
	But you do on TV every place.
	The Sprint commercial has been switched over as well as OfficeMax logo, which used to be red for those who have more than two memory cells in their brains.
	Oh, I like this guy, Mike.
	I like him.
	I noticed the color switch on the sitcoms, too.
	Like Everyone Loves Raymond, they wear bright orange T-shirts.
	Well, the ultimate slap in the face
	We're good to go.
	With a bright orange necktie under the robe, and the worst one was the older guys in the front with bright orange bow ties on.
	The guys looked like freaking clowns.
	Maybe you could mention this gradual switch and find someone who can explain this stupid trend.
	Not only will I mention it, I am going to hit it home every single day until people see they're being used.
	Is it something occult related?
	Who knows, but it seems the masses are blind and I'm getting sick of it everywhere.
	Sorry for the ranting.
	No, I'm not, Mike.
	I love it.
	Take care.
	Never stop.
	You guys are doing a great job.
	And by the way, he says... Oh, there's one more thing we've got to check out.
	One more thing he says.
	One more idiot area.
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	Okay, this is a song about symbolism and color.
	Yeah.
	It has to be blue.
	This is dedicated to Mike in York, PA.
	I love you guys.
	What color to spin?
	According to Dad, bright colors are bad and motivation is sin.
	A subliminal tool to keep you all fooled.
	Not the power hour.
	The emblem you see a lot on TV and in public school.
	The UN is there, and soon is the hour.
	The US will collapse, and we'll give them the power.
	And when we're all through, the color we'll do will be UN blue.
	Yeah!
	I want you...
	To get up now.
	I want all of you to get up out of your chairs.
	I want you to get up right now and go to the window, open it, and stick your head out and yell, I'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to take this anymore!
	Yes!
	I want you to get up right now.
	Get up, go to your windows, open them and stick your head out and yell, I'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to take this anymore!
	How many patients is this going on?
	Oh!
	Oh!
	Yeah, it's here and it's there.
	Just look anywhere.
	It's not hard to do.
	And when they come to town, you won't really care.
	You'll be used to their blue, cause it was everywhere.
	So my tie that's blue, sends a message to you.
	The U.N.
	is blue!
	Whoa!
	Oh!
	Oh, that is good.
	That is good.
	Well, listeners, I do believe the new colors of the United States or of the world, you know, whatever they choose to have, it's going to be light blue and orange.
	And I think we're sick and tired of seeing this ram down our throats.
	It's a message to all of the elite out there that they are making their mark.
	Let me tell you one last thing from Mike and P.A.
	Love this guy.
	We're good to go.
	We're good to go.
	I think?
	Well, this is the worst.
	I have to set the table here.
	Now, first of all, I want to thank Shirley up there in Kansas City, listening in on KCXL AM 1140 up there.
	She sent me a new calendar of Bushisms.
	Yes, thank you, Shirley.
	Thank you so much.
	But I tell you, I have to step outside of that because there are so many that he's said this past year.
	I've got to share with you a couple.
	Then I've got the big, bad blooper of all time here.
	Listen to this one.
	He said, I think younger workers, first of all, younger workers have been promised benefits.
	The government promises that have been promised benefits we can't keep.
	That's just the way it is.
	I mean, can you... There's so much confusion here.
	I'll skip over it.
	She wants to do the news, and I want to get to this thing here, but that's okay.
	Here we go.
	He said, last year, here we go,
	Because all which is on the table begins to address the big cost drivers.
	For example, how benefits are calculated, for example, is on the table.
	Whether or not benefits raised upon wage increases or price increases.
	There's a series of parts of the formula that are being considered.
	And when you couple that and those different cost drivers affecting those changing with personal accounts, the idea is to get what has been promised or more likely to be
	We're good to go.
	We're good to go.
	There's a reform that would help solve the red if we were to put that into effect.
	In other words, how fast benefits grow, how fast the promised benefits grow, if that growth is affected, it will help on the red.
	And as he looked out into the audience, there was complete silence, and every mouth was open, and every eye said, Blink.
	What is he saying?
	This is sick.
	This is sad.
	I mean, and there are people that say, well, George Bush is doing a good job.
	I support George Bush.
	All these congressmen, what is wrong with them?
	I'll tell you what, they are bought and paid for or blackmailed.
	They have to be to be able to say that this man is the best thing that ever happened to this country.
	No, he is not.
	And there's proof of it.
	This is stunning.
	This is stunning.
	And this is consistent.
	At least you can give him that.
	I mean, in regard to looking at the damage from the hurricane, he said, it's totally wiped out.
	It's devastating.
	It's got to be doubly devastating from the ground.
	And then he said, we look forward to hearing your vision.
	What?
	We look forward to hearing your vision.
	He also said, wow, Brazil is big.
	I know.
	This man is our president?
	Oh, he doesn't know anything.
	You know, is it any wonder that he says he doesn't like to read?
	Okay, let me move on to a couple of other things.
	I want to address Super Bowl because this weekend there's going to be a game with the Broncos, Denver Broncos, whose color is orange and blue.
	Just thought I'd throw that in.
	And I think we need to look at what was in the USA Today.
	And I want to thank Leanne for sending this.
	Now, those of you who don't know what we're talking about with regard to the Super Bowl, because I don't care about the Super Bowl.
	I never even pay attention to any TV.
	I don't even know how many...
	I don't know anything about it.
	I don't care.
	And I'm giving my disclaimer.
	I know nothing about sports.
	However, I am interested, though, when it comes to our attention that somebody says that the Pittsburgh Steelers are going to win every game now, including the Super Bowl game itself, and they were not even a wild card at the time.
	And that person, Super Bowl Steve, seems to have known that.
	Well, listen to this.
	Leanne says that Super Bowl Steve referred to the January 6th issue of USA Today with the sports page ads.
	Well, she said, in the January 5th issue of USA Today, I about fell over.
	On page 4C, you will see the Texas Bullhorns, and it says, Horns of Plenty.
	And also, picture of the helmet with the horns.
	On page 5C, it says,
	Watch the world's best players compete for the world's.
	Ooh.
	On page 7C, Tiger Woods' header says, Changing Course, and the subtitles read, Ground to make up.
	The long drive, are we there yet?
	Time to make a move.
	The clock is ticking.
	And the end of an era.
	I didn't know if you'd be interested in hearing this, but I found it to be very scary.
	I think the Super Bowl guy is on to something.
	Have a great day.
	You two are awesome, Leanne and Mazura.
	You are awesome also.
	Thank you very, very much for sending that.
	And to Len, I want to thank you for sending this.
	Yahoo says, which presidents were left-handed?
	Need a helping hand?
	Well, a search on left-handers led to the following.
	Here's the presidents that were left-handed.
	James Garfield, Herbert Hoover, Harry Truman, Gerald Ford, Ronald Reagan, George Bush, Bill Clinton.
	We notice that four of the last five commanders-in-chief wrote with their left hand.
	This, of course, begs the question, which current presidential candidates are left-handed?
	Well, they look down, and this is for the last election.
	That Bill Bradley was the only one who was left-handed.
	And they found out also that Steve Forbes is left-handed and H. Ross Perot is left-handed.
	Is there any meaning to this?
	Dunno.
	But kind of interesting, I think.
	Let's see.
	Also, I want to thank Marcus for sending this.
	Please pray for rain.
	I think this is an excellent idea.
	Let's start a prayer chain for rain.
	If when you get this email you will stop a minute and pray very strongly for rain, I think we can make a difference.
	Just pray for the people who have lost homes and everything they have.
	Friends, we need the rain, both here in Texas and Oklahoma.
	We are all being affected by it.
	Through our faith in God and our prayers, I believe we can succeed.
	A very valid request for prayer.
	I hope you will join this effort and pass it on as well.
	Also, I think we need to pray for the firefighters, especially the volunteer ones who have worked constantly without pay to try to keep us all safe.
	And I have to tell you on the sad side, I have had lots of letters from people wanting help for veterans, people who are involved in fighting for veterans.
	And people who are succumbing to the veterans' plights of illness.
	And I am so sad.
	I don't even know how we are going to respond to all these people.
	They are coming out of the woodworks needing help now.
	And there's far too many.
	I mean, no one organization could handle it.
	And when the government says we can't handle all the PTSD claims and we can't handle all the PTSD issues, well, if the government says that and they've got, you know, boo-coos of huge VA hospitals, how are we going to do that?
	I don't know.
	And, you know, I just don't want to read these stories right now because it just makes me sad.
	It really does.
	It hurts.
	But I'm going to get to Doug Rocky and why he's upset.
	And he has every reason to be upset for the way he's being treated.
	But let me tell you, first of all, Google is now resisting the U.S.
	subpoena and search data.
	They are saying, nope, Justice Department, you're not going to have it.
	Well, let's see how long Google lasts then.
	Yeah, this comes out of San Francisco.
	As of yesterday, the Justice Department has asked a federal judge to compel Google, the Internet search giant, to turn over records on millions of its users online.
	Search queries as part of the government's effort to uphold, of course, online pornography law.
	Google has been refusing requests since a subpoena was first issued last August, even as three of its competitors agreed to provide information according to court documents made public this week.
	Google asserts that the request is unnecessary, overly broad, and would be onerous to comply with, would jeopardize its trade secrets, and could expose identifying information about its users.
	Well, of course Google says we're going to resist.
	We'll see how long that lasts.
	A cancer treatment in the spice cabinet.
	Yes!
	A growing body of research suggests the spice turmeric has potent anti-cancer activity.
	Now we told you this months and months and months ago.
	Power Hour was out there leading the front telling you about turmeric so that you could get your curcumin in advance of the price going up and in advance of there not being any.
	And I'll tell you why in just a second.
	But the American Cancer Society is saying this.
	This is a news release from the American Cancer Society.
	Researchers have now launched a slew of human trials to find out how powerful it may be.
	No, they've released a slew of human trials so they can patent it and take it off the market and make it so that only they can have it.
	I think the promise is enormous, says Bhagarat Agarwal, Ph.D., Chief of the Cytokine Research Lab in the Department of Experimental Therapeutics at UTMD Medical Anderson Cancer Center.
	That's where Dr. Garth Nicholson was, by the way.
	Agarwal has conducted numerous lab and animal studies of turmeric and its primary component, curcumin.
	We're good to go.
	Now, I can tell you
	That we gave it to a Power Hour dog who has become a new dog.
	This dog had no personality for five years.
	We considered mentally challenged.
	The dog had no interest in anything.
	I mean, we gave it.
	Dave gets the credit for this.
	He said, let's try curcumin.
	Unbelievable results.
	The dog's tail is wagging.
	He's always there to greet everybody.
	He is happy.
	I mean, he's got to be a whole lot happier.
	It is amazing.
	It is just amazing.
	Well the idea is to try turmeric against cancer developed as researchers learned about the role that inflammation plays in cancer.
	Turmeric and curcumin are anti-inflammatory.
	That has been described in traditional medicine like Ayurveda for thousands of years.
	But Ayurveda, of course, was not tested.
	It only worked for thousands of years.
	That's the only test that it had.
	Well, lab and animal studies now show effect on many cancers.
	The early lab research that Agarol and others have done focuses on curcumin, the most active compound in turmeric.
	The studies show that curcumin can indeed slow inflammation.
	It also appears to slow the spread of cancer and metastasis, slows down the growth of new tumor blood vessels, which is called angiogenesis, and causes cancer cells to die the way normal cells do, which is apoptosis.
	What's more, these effects don't appear to be limited to just one type of cancer.
	Curcumin has shown effects in lab studies against metastatic melanoma,
	Mantle cell lymphoma and other cancers.
	Most recently, Agarol published a study in the Journal of Clinical Cancer Research showing that eating curcumin could keep breast cancer from spreading to the lungs, at least in mice.
	In addition, it appears to enhance the positive effects of the chemotherapy drug Paxlatel and lessen the severity of the side effects.
	Am I taking it?
	You bet.
	Is Dave taking it?
	You bet.
	However, not all research on curcumin has had such positive results.
	At least one study, we need to be honest with you, suggests that curcumin may inhibit the action of some chemotherapy drugs.
	So just, you need to know that if you're on chemotherapy, don't take, I wouldn't take it, personally, curcumin.
	At MD Anderson alone, Agarol said that doctors are testing curcumin in multiple myeloma and advanced pancreatic cancer.
	The institution is also seeking the funding for a study of curcumin in women with breast cancer.
	So let me just add, if you're thinking about taking it, you need to get the type, or it's being advised now by many physicians, to get the type that has piperine.
	Piperine is an additive that really, really complements it and makes it work a lot stronger.
	We have it at the power hour.
	We got it eight months ago, about eight months, six or eight months ago, when I heard this study was going to come out.
	This was published January 2nd.
	All I can say is, listeners, beware.
	Get it while you can.
	Now, here is one very positive thing.
	For those of you that are vets, we've had some curcumin donated and some serrazyme donated by Robert...
	From the UK.
	And if you're a vet, if you want to try curcumin and serozyme, then you write us a letter and you send us some kind of proof that you're in the military and tell us your situation, why you need the curcumin.
	Guess what?
	No charge, vets.
	Okay, we'll be right back.
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	Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to the Friday morning edition of the Power Hour.
	We're coming up on 55 minutes past the hour.
	And a quick reminder for those of you that are listening on the international shortwave, if you're dialed into WHRI 7.520, you'll have to change your receiver in about four minutes to 11.785 for the second and third hours of the broadcast.
	Such is the case with the listeners on WWCR 5.765.
	We'll also change in a few minutes to 7.465 for the remainder of the program.
	Coming up in the next hour, we'll be talking with Don Markham.
	He has an article that's been published in the Idaho Observer, and it's an analysis of the Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005.
	And it's a rather important piece of legislation that just sort of got shoved right through, and there are ramifications.
	We'll be talking about that in the next hour.
	This is Dave Von Kleist.
	And Joyce Riley.
	Tom Cahill is the Power Hour team member of the day.
	Let me tell you why.
	Tom Cahill has written a lot of very good things on the Internet, and we've posted some of his stories.
	But he also has guts, and he also is putting his actions behind his message.
	He went to a news conference or a town hall meeting of Congressman Mike Thompson of North Carolina where the Fort Bragg Advocate News carried this story.
	I think it's important to understand here that there are people that are willing to go up and make a stand and not afraid of, oh my gosh, what will they say.
	Well, listen to this.
	Thompson believes...
	Well, he's talking about refocus the priorities of the American people.
	Thompson presented his plan for Iraqi withdrawal, saying that Congress should pledge never to build military bases and promise publicly that Iraqi oil will be the property of the Iraqi people.
	Well, Thompson believes those actions would slow the number of volunteers coming from around the Middle East to help the Iraq insurgency and slow the aggressive troop exit, which will begin this summer.
	Tom Cahill, you go boy, of Fort Bragg, a member of the Veterans for Peace, presented Thompson a copy of the film Beyond Treason by the Gulf War Veterans Association.
	Yes.
	He challenged Thompson to investigate whether the deaths of 10,000 to 15,000 Gulf War veterans in 1991 was related to the military's use of depleted uranium.
	Thompson said he has co-sponsored a bill related to the DU investigation.
	Cahill spotted a tiny pin on Thompson's lapel and interrupted the congressman, saying, Is that a combat infantryman's pin?
	Thompson's response was, I never leave home without it.
	Thompson served in combat with the U.S.
	Army as a staff sergeant, platoon leader, in the 173rd Airborne Brigade, where he was wounded and received a Purple Heart.
	Nothing ever enraged Thompson as much as the right impression
	Anyway, I just want to say thank you.
	You go, boy.
	Kudos.
	Yeah, we're going to be talking to Congressman Thompson.
	Now, Doug Rocky is furious.
	He has been attacked over and over again.
	If you go to the internet, you will see where they're attacking the messenger.
	And his comment is, he said, Joyce, I am sending this out.
	I am sick and tired of the shoot the messenger campaign on me.
	While they ignore AR 700-48, which is the army regulation that says they must wear respirators, suits, and clean up their mess.
	And TB9 says,
	I'm not going to go into that.
	And all the orders, and ignore my actual duties, accomplishments, as if they're attacking me, they do not have to comply with the regulations.
	I'm going to come back and talk to you about this, because a guy named Dan Fahey, who says he's an expert, has tried to bring down Doug Rocky.
	He's absolutely right.
	We'll be right back after this one minute, ten second break.
	I'm here to follow my orders and stop this madman who's sane.
	They tell me he'll use germ warfare and anyone who would must be completely insane.
	While the flyboys run sorties, I'm putting on protective clothing from head to toe.
	My Uncle Sam will protect me Because we stand for truth and honor That's what I know
	That's what so many believed.
	Welcome back to the Friday edition of the Power Hour.
	This is Dave Von Kleist.
	And Joyce Riley.
	I'm going to get right to these statements of Dr. Doug Rocky.
	He is upset.
	He is very upset with very good reason.
	He says to Dan Fahey, who is the gentleman who has been creating a part of the stir over Doug's credentials,
	As you all know, Doug Rockey stars in Beyond Treason.
	He stars in it because he was the chief whistleblower from the Department of Defense who was lighting a fire under the butt of the Department of Defense to get them to do something to take care of Gulf War veterans.
	Well, their only response is, well, Doug's not credible.
	It's not whether they're sick or not.
	It's just a repeat of everything for the past 50 years.
	He says, Dr. Doug Rockey says, Dan, your continued public comments without any actual experience in any aspect of our work from Gulf War I until the present
	And your claim that you have promoted training in medical care since 1993 seems strange since you never mentioned in your recent public statements that I, Doug Rocky, was the U.S.
	Army health physicist and team medic on the 3rd U.S.
	Army DU team during the Gulf War I who established the need for and initially still ignored medical care protocols and cleaned up the mess to include on-site casualty medical care while you were never involved.
	Number two, that I and my team members wrote the after-action reports and that you were never involved.
	Number three, that I was the U.S.
	Army Depleted Uranium Project Director who did the research at the Nevada test site, wrote the training and education programs, and was a primary author of the U.S.
	Army Regulation 700-48 and the D.U.C.T.T.
	while you were never involved.
	Number four, that my primary efforts have always been to ensure that D.O.D.
	We're good to go.
	officials
	Working with me or my team to base your comments upon because you do not know what we saw, learned, verified during research and on-site operations or what has happened to our health.
	Your comment that no one who died, who lived in central Illinois is an insult to the widow, his family and all of us who were his friends.
	You did not know the person and had absolutely no knowledge of his military activities since you were never involved.
	That you wrote,
	His definitive claim that any military personnel that has been near the contamination will bring it back is laughable.
	Anyway, he goes on and says, Maybe you would like to tell the medical personnel who treated contaminated casualties...
	We're good to go.
	We're good to go.
	I think?
	Is this absolute character assassination?
	You know, and I'd like to address all the folks that are paid to listen to this broadcast and somehow subscribe to the philosophy and the methodology that you have to shoot the messenger because you don't want to face the message.
	Keep in mind that the efforts of people like Major Doug Rocky, Dr. Doug Rocky, the efforts that he is making are there to protect you.
	And if you participate in the demonization or ridicule or discrediting of this person, you're only shooting yourself in the foot and possibly affecting your children and the children yet to be born into your family.
	I mean, you've got to go look in the mirror and figure out who the bad guys really are, because it's not us and it's not Doug.
	We'll be right back after this three-minute break.
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	Hi, everybody.
	This is Dave Onquist and Joyce Riley, and we all know knowledge is power.
	Of course, that's why we call this the Power Hour.
	The opinions expressed on this program are not necessarily those of the staff, management, sponsors of this radio station, Citibank, AmeriCard, and all of the other... MasterCard, Visa, I don't know.
	Anyone who's involved with high finance and banking might have a problem with today's broadcast.
	And, uh, why, you might ask?
	Well, I'm going to find out as well.
	I have to tell you right off the bat.
	Well, first of all, welcome to the hour number two of today's Friday installment of the Power Hour.
	This is Dave Von Kleist and Joyce Riley.
	And, uh, we're going to be talking this hour with, um, with Mar- um, sorry-
	With Don Markham.
	And Don has written a very important analysis of the Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005.
	He's been a paralegal for the past eight years.
	He took it upon himself to learn about the banking industry and about the legality behind it because he could recognize that there was something really rotten in Denmark, as they say.
	He's got his Bachelor of Science in History and in Political Science.
	His graduate studies included oriental military history, and he's just an all-around inquisitive kind of guy that likes opening up cans of worms and see which way they crawl.
	And apparently he's done exactly that with this analysis, which is published, as I understand, in the Idaho Observer.
	Anyway, welcome to the broadcast, Don Markham.
	I'm doing just fine, and you're going to have to have a little patience with me because when it comes to high finance, bonds, stocks, investments, banking, all that type of stuff, that's not one of my strong areas.
	Now, a lot of folks do understand the concept of bankruptcy, and they do understand that, hey, well, with the economy being what it is,
	There are a lot of folks that are falling into bankruptcy, or the threat of them falling into bankruptcy is looming large on the horizon.
	So if you could just give a little bit of a background as to what bankruptcy has been, why we had bankruptcy laws in place for so many years, and then we can get into how this new legislation is going to affect all of that.
	Okay, I'm going to back up just a tad here and go into a
	Financed before we get into bankruptcy.
	Okay, let me ask you right off the bat, are you on a cell phone?
	I'm on a... There, I can pick up the other one.
	Hold on.
	Yeah, that would be good, because there's a very strange sound happening.
	Okay, is that better?
	That sounds better, yeah.
	Okay, now, everybody out there usually at some point in their life will go out and sign contracts, get involved in buying a house, a car, and basically involved in getting in debt
	And as long as everybody pays their debts, life is rosy.
	It's only when things arrive or happen that may cause you to get in financial difficulty.
	That's when things become a disaster.
	Now, for over 200 years, our country has had bankruptcy issues.
	Laws on the books.
	In fact, it's defined in the Constitution that we should have bankruptcy.
	And it's basically to grant people relief when they got themselves in certain situations which were beyond their control.
	And that's been fairly well defined through federal law.
	The bankruptcy code is found in Title 11 of the U.S.
	Code.
	But anyway...
	Starting about eight years ago, maybe nine years ago, this is during the Clinton administration, the financial institutions, credit cards, banking, mortgage companies, HMO, hospitals, started pushing our legislators in Congress to revamp the bankruptcy code.
	And originally in 2001, they did pass
	Two versions that weren't agreed upon, and they had a conference, which is where they iron out the differences.
	The only problem was it was scheduled for 9-11 on 2001, and we know what happened then.
	And as a result, they put bankruptcy reform on a hold, and it wasn't until just this, well, actually, April of 2005 that they finally go through with the new version.
	And...
	Actually, you had the leadership of both parties were pushing it.
	And it'll be interesting to see what is going to happen as a result of the investigation into lobbying goes, because there was a lot of last-minute addendums put into this legislation, and I'd be curious to see how that all plays out.
	Okay, well, as you just mentioned, this is new legislation.
	It went into effect this past October.
	Right.
	17th.
	And my question to you is that how exactly is this particular piece of legislation different from the, say, former legislation in regard to bankruptcy?
	Why should I care, in other words?
	Okay.
	Look.
	I'm only going to deal with two types.
	One that most people deal with, either a Chapter 7 or a Chapter 13.
	Okay.
	And those are the two that people get involved in.
	All the other ones deal with the corporations and stuff, which I'm not going to deal with at the moment.
	Basically, you have two types of bankruptcies.
	Seven is full discharge, all automatic, where a 13 you go in, and then that's a repayment type of
	Well, basically, as simple as possible is that they created a test to determine whether you can file for
	Okay.
	Bankruptcy.
	First of all, you have to go through a program which teaches you about how to manage your debt.
	And you have to get a certificate from it before you can even file bankruptcy of any kind.
	And then if you get that certificate, you go and then you have to take what is known as a means test.
	Now, the means test gives you a clue.
	All the figures and determinations are set by the IRS.
	I should give you a little... Oh, joy!
	Yeah.
	All right, so every state is different, you know.
	It's like they have it for an individual, a couple, a two, and a family of three, and a family of four.
	Anyway, they have these figures, and it's like if you're poor enough, then you pass the first hurdle, and you're allowed to file a Chapter 7.
	Otherwise, if you go over these figures, you go into the repayment plan in a Chapter 13.
	However, back...
	However, even if you're allowed to file the Chapter 7, and if you have as little as $167 extra a month that they can find available to pay to a creditor, or $10,000 over a course of five years, they'll move you back into the repayment plan under Chapter 13.
	Now, Chapter 13 requires that...
	You have to pay a minimum now of 25%.
	That's somewhat... It isn't honest, but there are ways it's more than 25%.
	But anyway, it's 25%, and that was basically the credit card companies wanting that provision in there.
	However, they're still allowed to charge you interest while you're in there.
	And now, at the same time...
	You have to go through a payment plan.
	You have to divulge it and it has to be accepted by the court.
	If you're unable to meet this plan, there is a way that they can remove you from a Chapter 13 and you're kind of on your own if they do that.
	Okay, let me just change gears a little bit here.
	So far what you've been talking about is bankruptcy as far as a consumer is concerned.
	A regular guy, you and me.
	If I get up to my eyeballs in credit card debt and all of a sudden lose my job and everything, a lot of times there's just no other option.
	Now, let's change gears a little bit.
	Let's go into the world of high finance.
	You've got the Enron situation there.
	How would this apply towards all the big boys that rape and pillage a corporation and then file bankruptcy?
	How does it affect them?
	Or was this piece of legislation designed to work in their favor?
	Well, the only thing that really changed for them
	And it's been reported that it's their financial disclosure statements they have to sign, and there are some penalties involved in this and that.
	But as far as I can see, other than the financial disclosures, these things were on the books before, and they just removed a lot of this stuff during the Clinton years.
	But anyway, now they've put them back on the books, and so...
	That part's in play, but as far as some of the other bankruptcy things they changed, there is one provision they did change that may affect Enron.
	Because if you notice, your listeners may be interested, but Enron is an Oregon corporation where I live.
	They then moved to other states like Texas and had their headquarters there because of what is known as the Homestead Exemption.
	In Texas and Florida, prior to this legislation, if
	Whatever the value of your home was, it was exempt during bankruptcy or any other kind of judgment proceedings against them.
	Under the new bankruptcy law, that does get changed unless you've been living in it over 3.3 years.
	Now it's the federal bankruptcy.
	Homestead exemption is only $125,000 where it was unlimited if you lived in Texas and Florida.
	Now that will affect some of the bigwigs down the road.
	Other than that, they didn't do much change as far as corporations go.
	Okay, I'll tell you what.
	We've got a break coming up here, and I'm going through your article here, and I've got to be honest with you.
	Like I said, when it comes to banking and financing and stuff like this, it's not a strong area of mine, but nonetheless, I could sort of understand exactly...
	How this might work to their favor.
	But you've got to look at all the numbers and the percentages and all that type of stuff.
	Let's see if we can't get this right down to the bare bones minimum when we get back from this break.
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	Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to the Friday edition of the Power Hour.
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	Coming up on 25 minutes past the hour, whatever hour you're sitting in, this is Dave and Joyce.
	Our guest this hour is Don Markham, and he has contributed an article to the Idaho Observer.
	Explaining a little bit about the new Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005.
	I mean, that's a mouthful.
	And trying to wrap your arms around this piece of legislation is very difficult for somebody like me.
	Now, I don't know about some of the other folks out there.
	I know that there are people out there that have a much better understanding of banking and financing and interest rates and
	Bankruptcy laws.
	But to the common meat and potatoes guy like myself, all I know is that, hey, look, there are so many people that have tons and tons of credit card debt, and sooner or later it is indeed going to come back and bite you.
	And apparently this piece of legislation is not necessarily what it...
	It appears to be on the outside.
	It has some hidden teeth to it.
	That's what you're trying to tell us all, is it not, Don?
	Yes, it is.
	The kind of relief you could have got before October 17th is totally gone.
	In fact, this last year, the bankruptcy filings were the highest they ever had.
	Which is one reason why the credit card companies are reporting that only 4.5% of people are now behind in their credit cards.
	So a lot of people did take advantage of this before it became in effect.
	There's still a lot of people out there that don't know this law and what really is involved with it.
	Okay.
	Well, if there was one particular difference that you could point out between the old bankruptcy law and this one, if there was one red flag, okay, in a nuts and bolts, meat and potato kind of way, how would you describe that flag?
	What is that that's going to basically change your protection?
	It's going to be real difficult to do a complete discharge of debt.
	You're going to be in a repayment plan which will last up to five years.
	And they can prevent you from refiling for eight years now where it used to be seven.
	Okay, let me just paint a little picture.
	Let's just say that I have a cottage industry.
	I work at home.
	I have everything that I own, everything I've saved for, everything I've worked for is in my home.
	And my income, I make it from my home, and I have a fire.
	My house burns down.
	I lose everything.
	I lose my savings.
	I lose everything.
	And yet I have, let's say, $200,000 worth of debt.
	Okay, or say $100,000 worth of debt, and I have no choice but to file bankruptcy.
	What's going to happen?
	Well, okay, first of all, I mean, before you get to file bankruptcy, you're going to have creditors coming after you.
	That's going to be the reason why you're going to file bankruptcy.
	Right.
	And depending how long you wait to file bankruptcy, you may get dragged into court, you may get judgments against you.
	And these all work to the advantage of the creditor.
	Because they can sell those instruments once they get a judgment.
	Same way, they get to write it off if you go into bankruptcy and get a discharge.
	So there's advantages for them to pressure you.
	Now, it sounds like with the kind of money you're talking about, you will be in a repayment plan under Chapter 13, which means that you will have to sit down
	Okay.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Well, then what do you do?
	I mean, are they going to throw you into prison?
	I mean, are there all these different... Well, I'll give you an example out here in Oregon.
	I mean, Oregon, we don't have debtors' prisons like in the old days, but prisons are being turned into industrial compounds out here.
	Oh, you mean like labor camps?
	Well, let's put it this way.
	50% of the people in the state penitentiary in Oregon are either there for back child support or driving.
	They're not hardened criminals.
	So it's not a stretch of the imagination with a few changes of laws that they could do it because in the state of Oregon, they go international out here and try to drum up business for the prisons out here, for manufacturing, and they offer...
	A guaranteed workforce, you don't have to pay minimum wage, and you don't have to pay insurance benefits.
	Well, maybe this is why they privatized so many of the prisons in the past 10, 20 years.
	Maybe that's got something to do with it.
	Well, they've been doing everything in one slice of time.
	They started by, you know, with napkin gas, you know.
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	Anyway, we're talking today with Don Markham, trying to sort out a very confusing and very difficult to understand subject about the Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005, and trying to sort out and find out where the hidden teeth of this particular piece of legislation is, went into effect October 17th of this last year.
	Don, we have a couple of callers.
	Do you want to finish up what you were trying to explain before we went to the break, or do you want to just go right to the calls?
	Before we go to the calls, I mean, there are some strategies people can use.
	Well,
	And basically, the rich, what they do is they create entities and they own things via entities, whether it's limited liability corporations, limited partnerships, trusts, whatever.
	And if people start putting and buying things and putting them in those names, you know, now instead of transferring them, you know, future, you know,
	Things that they buy into those entities, it won't be part of the bankruptcy.
	It can't be had or be brought into the bankruptcy proceeding or any other type of proceeding.
	If somebody comes after you for a judgment, if you try to transfer those things, it could get complicated.
	But if you just create an entity, buy it in that entity name, there won't be a problem down the road.
	Okay.
	All right, I tell you what, let's just go right to the phones.
	Some of the listeners will probably be able to ask better questions than I will on this particular subject, so let's go to New York and say hello to Scott.
	We have a first-timer on the air.
	Welcome aboard, Scott.
	Thank you for your call, and welcome to the Power Team.
	Hello, Dave and Joyce and Mr. Markham.
	Yeah, you too.
	How are you doing?
	I have a quick question.
	I've heard of Chapter 7.
	Never heard of Chapter 13.
	What happened to Chapter 11?
	Uh...
	That's basically, those are not used for individuals.
	Because you have other chapters out there.
	You've got 10, 11, you've got 9.
	Oh, so there's all kinds of chapters.
	Right.
	Because, like, I've heard of 7, I've heard of 11.
	Like I said, 13 is new to me.
	Yeah, 13 has been added over the years, and it's basically a repayment plan.
	Okay, so all the ones I've mentioned are not for individuals.
	Right.
	That's all like corporations, businesses.
	Corporations, businesses, reorganizations, and some of them are for government.
	I'm trying to remember.
	One of them is for farmers out there, and I believe that's nine, and I don't know whether that's still in effect or not.
	Wow.
	Well, that was enlightening.
	I never knew that there were so many.
	Well, there's a lot.
	In fact, if you've got a computer, you can look at the difference.
	The bankruptcy code is Title 11 under the United States Code.
	I found it interesting that the means test that you brought up was built by the IRS.
	Dave, I found that very interesting.
	When I heard that, my eyebrows went, whoa.
	You know there's something bad going on there.
	Oh, gosh, yeah.
	This is what I personally see.
	It's just my opinion.
	I don't know for sure.
	I do see the reemergence of the debtor's prison.
	There's going to be so many people...
	They're not going to be able to get through this, and they're just going to end up in bigger trouble.
	That's exactly what my knee-jerk reaction was, because they have been privatizing the prisons for years and years and years, and I do see... I mean, we know that prison labor has been available for businesses for quite some time.
	Oh, yeah.
	I mean, you can get very cheap labor, you know, farming out a particular project, if you have a widget that you want manufactured, and you still want it to say made in the USA, well, then you get a broker, and they will handle...
	The arrangements where they have prison workers make pieces for your widget.
	And you can get a tax write-off as well now.
	That's right.
	For the prison.
	That's right.
	And for the person wanting the work done, they get a write-off, too.
	Well, yeah, and this fits into the whole master plan.
	We've been asking the question for years, do more laws make more freedoms?
	Of course not.
	Our legislators pass 20,000 laws every year.
	I mean, one way or the other, no matter what you do and how many T's you cross and I's you dot, you're breaking a law somewhere, and if they catch it, they'll throw you in prison.
	That brings in the whole bin Laden thing.
	We just heard about this new bin Laden tape.
	I know it's a little off topic, but the thing is, you know, it's not... They're not... You know, you can say Al Qaeda... They're not threatening our freedoms.
	It's our own legislators that are taking away our freedoms.
	Mm-hmm.
	That's right.
	That's the question that we've posed here.
	That's right.
	How many of your laws are legislated away by Saddam or Osama or Al-Qaeda?
	The answer is none.
	Hey, Scott, thank you.
	By the way, how do you listen to the broadcast?
	WHRI 9840.
	Fantastic.
	Well, thank you for calling in.
	I look forward to hearing from you again.
	Thank you.
	All right.
	You have a good day.
	Let's go to Mark in Georgia.
	Mark, welcome aboard.
	You're on the air.
	Go ahead.
	All I got to say is I had an enlightening situation over Christmas.
	I got $30,000 in debt, credit card, and I've been carrying it since 94.
	I just keep rolling it over.
	Because that's pretty much all I can do until my wife graduates from college and makes big money.
	But this Vietnam vet was telling me what you guys just talked about.
	I mean, we're going to be under a police state slash prison because of the Illuminati.
	They're slowly but surely taking over America in freedom.
	And, you know, it scares me.
	I have freaking nightmares that I'm going to wind up in prison because I can't pay my bills.
	And I've had sheriffs come to the house and we just go to the court and just tell them, look, we're playing on, we're honorable, we're playing on paying it, we just can't pay it now.
	We're raising five kids.
	And this Vietnam vet, he's
	He's a Jesuit and all this other stuff.
	I mean, he's real high up there in the Illuminati.
	And he literally said that, Mark, you better take care of business because they're going to clamp down and they're slowly doing that.
	Bush is shredding the Constitution left and right with the Patriot Act and then creating the Homeland Security.
	Okay, yeah.
	And I don't know.
	I just want to know if he does agree or disagree about
	Us all becoming slaves to the haves and us being the have-nots.
	Okay, Mark, thank you for your question.
	Don, do you think, like, we're thinking that this is going to be heading towards a debtor's prison and a forced labor camp situation?
	Well, I don't know about... Well, debtor's prisons is getting near that point, and it wouldn't surprise me if they did, but you're not a free person if you're in debt.
	You're bound, you know, to the master.
	Right.
	And...
	You know, it's ugly no matter what's going to happen.
	I mean, I'm more scared about this new guy they're going to bring in as the head of the Federal Reserve.
	Oh, yeah.
	Because they're discussing now even stop publishing to the public M1, M2, M3 reports.
	Those are the reports that tell you how fast the printing press is going and how much money is in circulation.
	And if they start printing money and they don't tell you how much is out there, you don't know how much inflation is taking place.
	Right, right.
	Okay, let's go to Stuart in New York.
	Stuart, D35 Dittos.
	Good morning.
	Welcome aboard.
	Good morning.
	Regarding the situation, if you're somebody who does not qualify for Chapter 7 or Chapter 13, and you have debts, and for whatever reason you just can't pay them at that time,
	What can you do?
	That's question number one.
	Number two, I hear these advertisements on the radio all the time, in fact, a lot on Genesis, of these organizations where they say they'll negotiate with the credit card companies and cut the interest and put everything into one lump sum and they'll help you pay it off that way.
	Are they legit?
	Is that the way to go rather than trying bankruptcy?
	The trouble of it is finding which ones are legit and which ones just spin you around.
	And there are some legit ones out there.
	I don't know which ones they are, but what I've been hearing from people is they're hard to find legit.
	But I will tell you, I mean, most credit card companies, whether you're in bankruptcy or not, if you have a cash offer and you can give them a lump sum, it can be as low as a third or 50%.
	If you offer them a lump sum, they'll accept it and close your whole account.
	How would that... That's happened before.
	I know people have done it.
	Okay.
	Will that negatively affect your credit rating if you do it that way?
	Right.
	Because it's going to come on your credit report, and if they don't, then you can sue them.
	I mean, there's the Fair Credit Reporting Act, and there's a couple other federal statutes they have.
	They've got only like 30 or 60 days to correct that.
	You know, any derogatory remark on your credit report.
	You know, I mean, if I paid them off, I would wait 30 days, get a credit report, and then if they don't, I'd give them a written notice and at that point, and they don't do nothing about it, then I would take them to court and sue them.
	Okay.
	So you're saying that some of these credit card companies, let's say, for example... All of them will.
	All of them will.
	If you owe them, let's say, $5,000, you say, okay...
	I lost my job or whatever, yada, yada.
	I can pay you $2,500 cash right now.
	Will you take it?
	They might try to negotiate with you a little bit, but by and large, they will.
	And even if they went and took you to court and sued you and got a judgment, they always are willing to, especially after a judgment, they're willing to settle for less because they get the right off the other money in a manner which is very beneficial to them for taxes.
	Okay.
	Now, if they do get a judgment against you and they settle on this, does that still go on your credit report?
	Yes, it will.
	However, the state bankruptcy exemptions come into play because every time they get a judgment against you, you're allowed to exempt certain property from civil judgment using your state bankruptcy laws.
	Now, they vary from state to state, and I live in a state which doesn't have very good exemptions, but
	I'm just letting people know that, you know, they just can't take everything.
	They just can't take 100% of your check.
	They can't take all the value, you know, of something.
	You know, you're allowed certain exemptions.
	Like, you know, in most states it's 25-30% usually tops of your paycheck a month if they got a garnishment against you.
	As far as, like, the interest rates that some of these cards... I have some that are as high as, like, 22%, 23%, which is... Oh, man, that's bad.
	Well, no, the high... I mean, under the new... Oh, God, I just see some new agreements.
	They can go as high as 30% now under the new legislation.
	And they get to charge you more in the month of December.
	So it makes it almost impossible to pay the damn things off.
	Oh, yeah.
	And can that be negotiated?
	I mean, if you call them and say, hey, 30% or 22% is usurious.
	Well, no, they changed the law so it isn't usurious anymore.
	I'll give you a clue.
	And all credit card companies do this and they communicate with one another.
	If you fall behind on one credit card from one company, by law, the other companies, through the agreement you have that you never read,
	It can raise your interest rate on you for failing to pay the other company.
	Oh, my goodness.
	Hey, Stuart, thank you so much for the call.
	You bring out some really good points.
	I'm listening to this conversation.
	I'm sitting here thinking, well, what if?
	What if?
	What if all of a sudden our relations with China were to break down here?
	And what if there was an economic collapse?
	And what if all of these people that are up to their eyeballs and debt couldn't pay...
	What if America had no choice but to rebuild the very base structure of its own industry, and all these people go bankrupt, and they all get thrown into prisons because of it?
	My goodness, we certainly would need a huge labor force to rebuild and reconstruct industry.
	I mean, how convenient would that be?
	You know?
	Let's go to Tim in Florida, and somehow, Tim, I don't think a Rife machine is going to clear away debt, so let's stay on topic.
	That's for sure.
	I'm going to ask your guest.
	Chapter 11.
	That's for corporations?
	Right.
	Okay.
	In 1933, when they collateralized the people, we became dummy corporations.
	When a child is born, a birth certificate is sent to, I think it's New York, called the Tower of Power.
	The dummy corporation, the child becomes a dummy corporation,
	And a bond is put on that child.
	In 1933, it was a million dollars.
	I don't know how much the collateral is today.
	Well, we are dummy corporations.
	So we should be able to file Chapter 11 because we are a corporation.
	The IRS only takes corporations.
	They do not take natural men or natural women.
	Flesh and blood human beings.
	And it's peoples-right.com
	Explains all about this.
	And if you could get Dave on your show at the Power Hour, he can explain everything about the fraud, about credit.
	Yes.
	Your name means credit, and credit is fraud.
	The Federal Reserve Act of 1913, the creature from Jekyll Island, explains all about the credit, how it's fraud.
	Okay, well, thank you for the contribution, and hopefully we'll get Don to comment on that.
	How does this all fit in here?
	I think we all sort of know the answer, but I'd like to hear it from him.
	We're going to take our three-minute break.
	We'll be back to wrap it up with our guest, Don Markham.
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	Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to the Power Hour.
	We're good to go.
	Four minutes.
	We've been talking this hour with Don Markham who is a paralegal and has been examining a lot of the legislation in regard to bankruptcy laws.
	And there's written an article which is posted in the current issue of the Idaho Observer, which I highly recommend.
	And there's two newspapers in this country that are worth their salt, and that's, of course, the American Free Press and the Idaho Observer.
	Oh, and I don't want to forget the Lone Star Iconoclast.
	But still, I mean, with one hand, I could count the number of newspapers that are decent in this country.
	Don, as we wrap this up here, what is your advice to folks out there?
	I mean, a lot of folks are just saying, hey, look, there's only one thing.
	Get out of debt.
	Do you subscribe to that philosophy?
	I absolutely subscribe.
	It took me a lot of years to do that, and I finally have accomplished it.
	And I advocate doing that.
	Second thing I advocate is if you've got to buy something, create an entity and have it buy it.
	Because if you go into debt and they want to sue you or drag you into bankruptcy or whatever, that separate entity is never you.
	Okay.
	Alright, now do you have a website?
	Or basically are we going to direct everybody to the Idaho Observer?
	The Idaho Observer, I can give out an email if somebody out there wants to send me an email and I'll answer a question if they type in
	Power Hour question or something in the subject line.
	Okay.
	Well, first of all, the website for Idaho Observer is Idaho-Observer.com.
	And go ahead, give out any other contact that you want, Doc.
	Okay.
	Email address is Markham, M-A-R-K-H-A-M-A-M.com.
	At gowebway.com.
	G-O-W-E-B-W-A-Y.
	Okay, would you redo that again, because it's... Markham is what?
	M-A-R-K-H-A-M.
	There you go.
	Okay.
	All right, let's go.
	We've got one more call to squeeze into the top of the hour.
	Jeff in Massachusetts, welcome aboard.
	You're on the air with our guest Don Markham.
	Oh, yes.
	As far as the Idaho Observer is concerned, what do you see as far as the future of the United States is concerned?
	Do you see the United States getting out of the UN and getting out of debt?
	Well, that's sort of not really on topic.
	The debt part, yeah, but what do you see, Don?
	Well, I see they're going to attempt to make Canada, the United States, and Mexico one big happy family.
	The reason why I mention the UN is this, because the UN wants global taxation, and this will increase the debt in the United States of America.
	You see, because the two are interconnected, basically.
	So that's why I threw the U.N.
	in there.
	Yeah, but they're going to do it in steps, and the first step is to create one government and one continent.
	Like, you know, you've got the European community over there, and they're going to do one for North America.
	Because Joan Bionda has done a lot of research on the U.N., and the roots of a lot of these problems are connected to that.
	As John Birch would always say, get the U.S.
	out of the U.N., less government,
	More responsibility with God's help a better world.
	That's what we need.
	Period.
	Because governments create genocide and governments create debt and governments are a drag.
	Well, all you've got to do is look at the UN track record and you'll see the genocide.
	Oh, of course.
	That is a fact.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	Guys, have an excellent weekend.
	Well, thank you for the phone call.
	All right.
	And Don Markham, thank you so much for joining us this hour.
	Hopefully we've been able to shed a little bit of light on this most confusing subject in regard to bankruptcy.
	And again, I would encourage folks to go to Idaho-Observer.com to check it out.
	Don, thank you so much for joining us.
	You have a good day.
	Thank you.
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	Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to the Friday morning edition of the Power Hour.
	Straight up top of the hour, plus one minute.
	And we're going to have open lines for the remainder of the broadcast.
	And a couple of issues here that I wanted to bring to light.
	I understand that you remember the folks from worldcantwait.org.
	We tried to throw them a little bit of support today.
	And although we all agree that we have a real problem with the current regime we're living under, my particular philosophy is just like Jack Palance tried to tell Billy Crystal in the movie City Slickers.
	It's one thing.
	Leave all the other stuff aside.
	Let's all agree on one thing.
	Focus on one thing like a laser beam and accomplish that one thing.
	Some folks just don't get it, and they feel that they have to drag all their other issues along with them.
	You know, okay, abortion, and gay rights, and racism, and all this other stuff, which may be legitimate arguments.
	Of course, there are people who stand on both sides of any particular debate.
	But when it comes to one thing, it's one thing.
	And that's my particular philosophy.
	Well, one thing that they're focusing on is trying to get Bush out of office, and I can agree with that one thing.
	And World Can't Wait has taken out a full-page ad in the New York Times, and it basically screams the headline, Bush, step down!
	January 31st, President Bush will be giving his State of the Union address, and the State of the Union is in a state of emergency.
	They are basically advocating everybody...
	To protest and demonstrate at 8 o'clock Eastern Standard Time around the country in large cities and town squares.
	They want people to rally one hour before Bush's address.
	And at 9 p.m.,
	It says, let the world hear as we symbolically drown out Bush's lies.
	Bring your own noise, drums, pots, pans, musical instruments, your voice.
	Let taxi horns blare and church bells ring as we bring our own State of the Union message.
	Bush, step down.
	I think that this is going to be interesting to see how this is going to unfold here.
	I think we can all agree that we have a very serious problem with the direction our country is taking under the Bush regime.
	You may or may not want to participate in this, but I'm sure they have details
	At their website, worldcantwait.org, and I know some of you folks are saying, wait a second, you're promoting a bunch of people that are advocating homosexuality and abortion and stuff.
	No, I'm not.
	I am absolutely not.
	I do focus in on one thing, and hopefully we all can too.
	I know that there's folks out there that can't get by that.
	If you get equally yoked with these people, say, wait a second, wait a minute.
	All the folks that subscribe to that philosophy, let me ask you a question.
	Do you have any members of your family in the military?
	I'm sure many of you do.
	We have a lot of very good, devout Christians and Bible believers out there that have members in the military.
	Well, guess what?
	If you've got people in the military, then you are also involved in
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	That doesn't mean that you're equally yoked with them.
	It just means that you're serving the military in the best way, and if you're serving your country, the best way that you know how.
	It's that one thing.
	Okay?
	So I am not equally yoked with anybody that has a different philosophy as far as sexuality or abortion or anything like that.
	We can agree with one thing, and that is that the direction this country is taking is absolutely maniacal, it is suicidal, and it is disruptive for the peace and sanctity of this world.
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	This is Davon Clice and Joyce Riley.
	We all know knowledge is power, and that's why we call this the Power Hour.
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	All right.
	Welcome to hour number three of today's installment of the Power Hour.
	And for those of you listening live, I just want to let you know that we are not answering the phones for the next hour.
	We have a situation, nothing big or anything like that, but we fired up a new heater unit.
	And I don't know if you know about, you know, heaters, space heaters and stuff like that.
	But, you know, when you turn them on for the first time, sometimes they smoke a little bit and let off a funny smell.
	Well, it did.
	And some people went, oh, this smells terrible.
	So anyway, we just had to open up all the windows and air the place out.
	So anyway, no big deal.
	So if you're calling in right now, you're not going to get answered, okay?
	We just open up the windows and everybody's out there taking a walk right now.
	It's not a big deal.
	But anyway, we're going to have open lines here.
	But before we do...
	I wanted to share with you a couple of letters here.
	I mentioned one yesterday.
	I didn't get to it because we had open lines and I almost did it again today.
	But there's a couple of things I wanted to share with you.
	First of all, I got an email here from a student by the name of Matt.
	And he says he's a student at Valparzio University in Indiana and recently watched the video 9-11 in plain sight and he says he was completely astonished because it was so thought-provoking.
	He says, I'm left in some confusion completely as to what to do about this matter and how to tell people and get this message out in the communities of America.
	I've never heard anyone talk of this movie until my friend introduced me to it, which means people who are unaware or don't care or they'll just never hear of it.
	I want to find a way to present this to a larger audience with a viewing basis without raising a biased view and showing that I neither support liberal or conservative views but stand neutral so that people can see that we're not fighting for a view but for the truth.
	Wow!
	He's out of the cage!
	Uh-oh, look out!
	This is not something that should remain hidden, and I'm sure you feel the same.
	I want to do everything in my power to get as many people to view In Plain Sight as possible.
	Okay, I could go on here, but he wants very much to be able to get folks out there to see this video and start thinking outside the cage, and you go boy.
	What else can I say?
	A couple suggestions, Matt.
	Get it onto a local cable access channel.
	You can have a screening at the library.
	You can publicize it at the school.
	Get together with the student union and say, hey, look it, let's have a free screening of this video and get together with a couple of your friends.
	Have a meeting of people that think like you do and make a battle plan.
	Make flyers.
	Put it out there and plan a screening of it.
	That's the way to do it.
	Grassroots guy, bottom up.
	And if anybody else has got any other suggestions, hey, bring them to the table.
	That's what this is all about.
	Now, also, I have a letter here that was written by Craig, and he was responding to Gordon Farrer, who is the individual that writes for The Age, which is a newspaper in Australia.
	Now, The Age, Gordon wrote a very scathing review of 9-11 in plain sight, and it was published before it was aired.
	And I believe it was in that morning's newspaper the night before it was going to be aired.
	And if people caught wind of this thing and read his review both in the newspaper and online, they were very upset, and understandably so.
	Now, for those of you that want to see what this flap is all about, we've got the entire exchange between myself and Mr. Farrer.
	Now, I don't usually address individuals that slam either Joyce or me.
	I mean, we try to stay on the horse because otherwise you end up wrestling in the mud.
	And that's not what we're into.
	But I did find it necessary to draw out Mr. Farrer so that he and the listenership of the program and all the readers out there, the new listeners we've got down in Australia are unbelievable.
	Thank you so much, all you folks down under.
	For joining us on the program.
	I know we've got a lot of folks out there.
	And after reading the exchange, he wrote the article, I responded to it.
	He responded to my response, and then I responded to his response of my response, and then he responded again.
	So we went back and forth about three times, and I'm done with the guy.
	I'm not going to respond anymore, because he is adamantly...
	And gleefully and blissfully in the cage.
	And he does not want to... He wants to keep all the other people in the cage.
	He will not address the issues.
	He is so wrapped up in attacking the messenger and adamantly refusing to deal with the message.
	And this is exactly the point.
	By my getting him to respond and then responding back and getting another response.
	He should have quit when he was ahead because he didn't just shoot himself in the leg.
	He sawed both of his legs off slowly and deliberately at this point.
	People can see exactly where he's coming from.
	Very interesting exchange.
	And check it out at the Power Hour.
	And I also want to thank Craig if you're out there listening.
	Craig...
	E is the first letter of his last name.
	And he's down under there.
	And I thank you so much for your lengthy response.
	Very articulate, very intelligent response to Mr. Farrer.
	Anyway, that said, and of course for those of you that still, if you've been under a rock and you don't know anything about the 9-11 in plain sight documentary, it is just creating an unbelievable controversy around the world.
	and that the powers that be are desperate to keep people from seeing this or asking the questions that we bring up in that program because the questions are valid they still stand and they will continue to stand until there is an open
	An open and free exchange of ideas and thoughts and the discussion is not influenced in any way, shape, or form by so-called truth-seekers that want to somehow discredit or ridicule anybody that dares ask these questions like, what is the flash?
	What caused the flash?
	Was the flash a result of the pod?
	Is there a pod?
	They don't want you even talking about this stuff.
	Because if we talk about it, we just might find out that the September 11th attack and the collapse of the towers might have been a result of something other than terrorists with box cutters.
	Now, that's not to say that there weren't terrorists involved.
	I've never said that.
	Okay?
	But just like the analogy that I gave many... It's too long to give now, but I gave many months ago about the unscrupulous individual
	That had clawed his way up the ladder of success and left in his wake the ruined lives of many honest people.
	And because he felt he was in competition with a guy that lived down the street, he planted bombs around his house.
	And had a button he could push any time he wanted to blow this guy up.
	But before he did it, he hired a bunch of kids to let off some fireworks for a party he had planned.
	And as the kids let off the fireworks, he pushed the button and the house blew up.
	When the firefighters and the police got there, they arrested the kids.
	Now my question is, is it possible that Osama Bin Laden and the terrorists were nothing more than those kids that were hired to do a different job?
	Maybe they were involved in something very bad, and I don't doubt that they were.
	But did they bring down the towers?
	Did they attack the Pentagon?
	That's the question.
	There's a whole lot more to the story of September 11th than is being brought to the table, and I think the overwhelming majority of the people of the world now realize this.
	The simple fact is that every piece of legislation, every military action that's been taken, and every television broadcast by these talking head so-called journalists on television, the likes of Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly, and Bill O'Reilly, yeah, I want a piece of you.
	Hey, I want a piece of you, Bill.
	But anyway, all of these people are directly responsible for taking our country, and indeed the world, down a path that is based upon fraud.
	Everything is predicated on September 11th.
	And if we don't get to the truth about what happened on September 11th, then everything we do is based on a lie.
	We are living a lie.
	We've got to get to the truth.
	And if you're willing to sacrifice your liberty and your freedom, you better understand that they who sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither liberty or security.
	If we're going to give up our rights, we better be doggone sure that we don't want them back forever.
	And we better reexamine why we were given these founding documents in the first place.
	All right, that said, let's start going to the phones, and as I ranted, I shuffled my paper here, and I've lost my, let me see, where is it?
	Richard in New Hampshire, you're the first one up.
	Thank you, Scott.
	Richard, welcome.
	Yeah, hi, Dave.
	How are you doing?
	A couple points I want to bring out about our illustrious IRS.
	Last year I brought one out, and I'll bring out another one that I didn't get to.
	Okay.
	About five years ago in the Buffalo Service Center in Buffalo, New York, some of the employees over there that were taking some of the returns
	You know, from all the movie stars.
	Yeah?
	Like Julia Roberts and that.
	And what they were doing, they were putting up on the Internet.
	Oh, really?
	Oh, yeah, really.
	And nothing ever happened from that.
	No repercussions.
	Nobody got reprimanded.
	Nobody lost their jobs or anything like that.
	Huh.
	That great, great outfit, right?
	Yeah, really.
	And the other one now, which I brought up last year, is about five years ago.
	The IRS, they were running a scam.
	I believe I told you about this.
	And what they were doing back then, everybody was sending in their checks, and they were putting IRS.
	So what some of the agents did is they opened up a checking account, all right, in the name of IRNIF, right?
	And when anybody, a taxpayer, sent in their check saying IRS, well, what they did is they just put a period after the I, a period after the R, and they just filled in NIF, right?
	And they stole $3 million.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	You know, it just boggles the mind how the people, you know, they just stood back and they let these government agencies like this just run roughshod over us.
	Unbelievable.
	It really is.
	Thanks for the call.
	Just bringing yet another puzzle piece to the table.
	If we can all work together, maybe we'll figure out what the picture's going to be.
	I don't know.
	I don't know if we want to see what the final picture's going to be, because I think we all know what it is.
	All right, we're going to take our break.
	We'll be back, and we've got a first-timer on the line.
	Hey, more first-timers coming on board.
	Told you.
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	This is Dave and Joyce coming up on 25 minutes past the hour.
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	Alright, we're going to have open lines.
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	And I'm hoping, I am hoping against hope that we can inspire folks, not just to understand what's going on.
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	Hate's not good.
	Hate is bad.
	Hate bad.
	But we've got to do something to get folks to rediscover their heritage, their responsibility, and their duty as patriotic Americans to roll up their sleeves, break a sweat, get their fingernails dirty, and realize it is your responsibility to get out there and tend to the garden so that the seeds of liberty will continue to flourish if they haven't died altogether.
	All right, we have a first-timer on the line.
	Tim in Michigan, welcome aboard.
	Thank you for calling.
	Welcome.
	Hi.
	You know, the part from that movie you ought to be playing is Ned Beatty taking Howard Eel into that big room and telling him, you do not mess with the primal forces of nature.
	That's right.
	Very good.
	We played that particular clip yesterday.
	Oh, I didn't get to hear it.
	I don't know why.
	I'll play a portion of that at the bottom of the hour.
	That would be great.
	I'm calling about this whole bankruptcy debt problem.
	situation with people.
	You know, I look at the TV and then on comes these commercials and I say, oh, look what you can't afford.
	You know, how many times do you have to change the complete living room suite?
	How many big screen TVs do people have to have?
	How many stereos in your house?
	I mean, you know, have a rummage sale and start paying down that stuff and get out from under their better prison tracks.
	People wake up.
	You know, the founder of WHRI was a pastor called Lester Sumrall, and I watched him on the TV talking about, you made a deal with these people and you owe them the money.
	You know, I can understand people who are raising kids and they have to have certain things in their home in order to do things properly, but, I mean, there is a limit.
	I mean, because they tell you that this year bath towels are green or burgundy doesn't mean you have to go out and do that.
	The Bible teaches, be content with such things as you have.
	Don't let these advertisements tell you to go into debt for their bottom line.
	You have a bottom line at your house.
	You have a budget.
	You need to stay within the confines of that.
	That's right.
	You have to ask the question, how much is enough?
	How much is too much?
	Exactly.
	So folks say, wait a second, if you start going down that road, then you're condemning capitalism.
	So no, I'm not.
	I think everybody should be able to make as much money as they want to, but the point is that how much do you want to make, how much do you need to make, and how much do you have to make?
	I mean, it's sort of like standing in a buffet line, and the guy in front of you starts scooping so much food on his plate, it goes to the floor, and then it's up to his ankles and up to his knees, and he's just taking it because he can.
	Right, right.
	I mean, that doesn't leave anything left for anybody else.
	I mean, that's just flat-out greed.
	Yeah, and you know something else?
	I heard this years and years ago, and I believe it was Tom Valentine.
	They were talking about the whole money situation.
	What we call money is called note.
	Federal Reserve notes.
	And they're based in, I think they said, insurance law.
	Right.
	And anything purchased with those notes actually belongs to the Federal Reserve Bank.
	That's what I've heard, yeah.
	Yeah.
	So they own whatever you bought with their notes.
	So, you know, we're in a really sticky situation with that.
	I think that's how it's going to happen.
	I think so too.
	They're going to say, we own it all anyway.
	And we're leasing it to you.
	Hey, Tim, we've got to go.
	Bottom of the hour is upon us.
	How do you hear the program?
	W-H-R-I-N-W-W-C-R-I.
	Hey, thank you.
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	I'm so glad to have you aboard.
	Spread the word.
	All right.
	Bottom of the hour break is here.
	When we get back, I'll play some of that speech that Ned Bitty gave to Howard Field.
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	All right, welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to the Friday morning edition of the Power Hour.
	This is Dave Von Kleist and Joyce Riley.
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	Yeah, I have this clip ready here because this, again, and I hate to be banging the drum about this movie, Network, but it is so important.
	It's sort of like the movie Braveheart or the movie The Patriot.
	These are movies that you need to watch every once in a while just to smack reality right between your eyes and mine as well.
	So we don't forget about what we have learned because if you forget your history, you're destined to repeat it.
	This movie came out 30 years ago, 1976.
	And the message in this movie about the control of the media is truer now than it was then.
	I had no idea when I saw this movie how significant it was.
	And when I saw it again, it was on television about two months ago.
	And I only caught the last half hour, and I said, oh my gosh, I'd forgotten all about that.
	So anyway, I recently obtained a copy, and I watched it the other night, and I tell you, this is must-viewing.
	Go to your video store, get a copy of this.
	I'm going to play a clip in this scene.
	Howard Beal, who is the news anchor, who has all of a sudden found this new purpose in life in spreading this message of common sense.
	At one point he goes on his program and he says, hey, the Arabs are taking over the corporations.
	They're taking over our corporation that owns this network and we've got to stop them.
	Well, the owner of the corporation calls Mr. Beal into his office.
	He's not real happy.
	He sits Mr. Beal down, and he closes the curtain, and as the room darkens, he walks to the end of the long table to address Mr. Beal in private, and he speaks.
	And here's part of his speech.
	You have meddled with the primal forces of nature, Mr. Bill, and I won't have it!
	Is that clear?
	You think you've merely stopped a business deal.
	That is not the case.
	The Arabs have taken billions of dollars out of this country, and now they must put it back!
	It is air and flow, tidal gravity.
	It is ecological balance.
	You are an old man who thinks in terms of nations and peoples.
	There are no nations.
	There are no peoples.
	There are no Russians.
	There are no Arabs.
	There are no third worlds.
	There is no West.
	There is only one holistic system of systems.
	One vast and imane, interwoven, interacting, multivariate, multinational dominion of dollars.
	Petrodollars?
	Electrodollars?
	Multidollars?
	Reichmarks?
	Rings?
	Rubles?
	Pounds?
	And shekels?
	It is the international system of currency which determines the totality of life on this planet.
	That is the natural order of things today.
	That is the atomic
	And subatomic and galactic structure of things today!
	And you have meddled with the primal forces of nature!
	And you will atone!
	Am I getting through to you, Mr. Buell?
	I'm going to stop it there, because it gets better.
	And if you want to see it, you're going to have to get a copy of this film, Network.
	Anyway, man, you talk about the corporate board.
	You talk about a disease of the mind.
	Yes, money makes the world go round, but money is not the purpose of life.
	Love is the purpose of life.
	You can't take it with you.
	How many times have we all heard that?
	However, it was said, in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make.
	I'm not going to tell you who made that particular statement, because some of you might get upset, because you're more worried about the messenger than you are the message.
	We're going to go to the phones.
	Harry in Texas, you're first up, and I have to apologize for having to let you go the other day.
	It's just we flat ran out of time, and that's the way it works.
	Harry, thank you for calling.
	You're on the air.
	Okay.
	Good morning, Dave.
	Good morning.
	Good to hear your voice.
	Yeah, right.
	Dave, this guy that you had on a couple of days ago that said he's mad as hell, that was a terrific audio clip.
	Yeah, that's from the movie I was just talking about.
	I see.
	Okay.
	Well, here's my point.
	What we've got to do is get the people mad.
	And you are in a good position to do it.
	Just like this guy in that audio clip you had there.
	We're beating around the bush.
	You know there's an old saying.
	No great nation was ever saved by good people.
	Because good people will not go to the extent to save it.
	And that's our situation right now.
	Wow.
	Yeah, we gotta get these people mad.
	And you know what the best thing to do that could get them mad?
	And a lot of people get hurt.
	But by golly, I think it's worth it.
	If we had a financial collapse in this country...
	We could separate the wheat from the chaff and take this country back.
	Maybe so.
	I don't know.
	But on the other hand, it could go the other way.
	It could throw all of mankind into a desperate and hopeless slavery situation.
	It could, yes.
	But the possibility is, this is America.
	This is not a third world country.
	We've got some brains here, but we don't have enough red-blooded Americans to get mad enough to take this country over.
	Well, we do, but we've got to figure out a way to get them mad, and that's why I've been saying, Harry, you've been with us for a long time.
	You've been a listener of The Power Hour for many years, and you've heard me say numerous times that I'm sorry, but it seems to me that the only way to get Americans off of their big, fat, pimple-covered, bed-sored butts...
	Is to take away their remote control, cancel the football game and a beer delivery, and let them eat something other than pizza.
	Well, if that'll get them mad, that's what I would do then.
	Mm-hmm.
	Well, then let's go.
	You know, what do we do to get these people to grab the pitchforks and the torches and storm the castle?
	Get them mad.
	Get them mad!
	I'm mad as hell, and I'm not going to take it anymore!
	All right, that's what we've got to convey to all these people, to take this country over.
	God bless you and Joyce, Dave.
	Thank you.
	Keep up the good work.
	You go, boy!
	Let's go!
	Woo!
	Woo!
	Woo!
	Woo!
	All right, thanks for the call, Harry.
	Joe in Arkansas, I hope you're mad as hell and you're not going to take it anymore.
	Well, I'm mad, yeah.
	I can't seem to get other people mad, though.
	I try, but they don't seem to get mad, even though I give them lots of good reasons to.
	But anyway, I have two things I'd like to tell you about briefly.
	All right.
	And first is that yesterday I had a very interesting visit with a woman from Huntsville, Arkansas, who has become quite a famous author.
	And she's now in her 70s, has lived all her life in Huntsville, Arkansas, which is a town of about 1,500 people.
	And she became a famous author some years ago, and now she's invited to travel and speak all over the world.
	And so she just got back from Dubai in the Middle East, and she also told me that she's recently been to Europe and Russia and Ukraine and various other places also.
	And she's not particularly political.
	Her books are not about politics.
	She's never been a person that's interested in politics or conspiracy theories or things like that very much.
	But here she was telling me.
	She told me, very matter-of-factly, everything that our media and our government tell us about the rest of the world is a total lie.
	And she says this country is the most hated country in the world now because of what our government is doing.
	And she told me that life in this country...
	Is nowhere near as good as Americans are propaganda to believe.
	From what she said, it sounded to her like she thought that people in Moscow and Kiev now have a better life than people in America.
	And she said life was particularly good in Dubai and Saudi Arabia.
	The government there has a lot of money and is doing a lot of good things to help the people with the money.
	So that was very interesting, I thought.
	And she was also telling me about the bird flu.
	And she also told me that the bird flu is a complete hoax.
	That you're just...
	That the wild birds don't get it, and the only birds that do are these domesticated birds that are kept in horribly unsanitary conditions, and that the people can't get it unless they have intimate contact with these birds.
	And so she said that the whole idea that the world is in danger from birds is a complete hoax.
	This is what she learned from traveling around the rest of the world.
	I thought it was a very interesting conversation.
	Well, sounds to me like some of the things we've talked about on this program are right along those lines.
	And she's never heard your program, but she's saying the same thing.
	I'll be doggone.
	Interesting.
	Well, thank you so much.
	There was one other thing I'd like to bring up.
	Please, go ahead.
	Okay, if somebody knows more about the law about this, I would really like to hear from them.
	And that's this.
	Some time ago, I guess about a year and a half ago, a friend of mine told me that if
	When I got a check and went to deposit it in my bank account, if instead of signing my name on the back of it to endorse it, like we're always taught to do, if I would just print, for deposit only, and then put it in my bank account, then it could not be counted as income that the IRS could, you know, say was my income that I should pay taxes on.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah.
	And so I kept doing it.
	So I wonder what they're going to do at the bank if I do this.
	But anyway, next time I got a check, I
	Thank you.
	Which is what I've told you.
	But if there's anybody else that knows more about that, I sure would be interested in hearing about it.
	Well, that's really interesting.
	Thank you for that.
	Well, you just put it out there, so we'll find out if there's any truth to that.
	I appreciate that.
	Okay.
	Let's go to Michigan.
	So, hi, Anna Marie.
	Welcome aboard.
	You're on the air.
	Hello.
	Well, hello.
	I'm a first-time caller.
	You're a first-timer?
	Yes, I am.
	All right.
	Welcome aboard.
	How do you hear the program?
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	And what prompted you to give us a call this fine morning, my dear?
	Well, your gentleman that you had on today said that the new laws were supposed to be talked over on 9-11.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	The planes hit the financial section of New York.
	Was that two birds with one stone?
	Could be.
	Sure, why not?
	You know, that was the first thing that popped into my mind.
	I don't know.
	That was the financial section.
	Yeah, I'm sure that there were several birds with one stone in this particular issue.
	I think that the idea that Larry Silverstein had himself a piece of real estate that was gushing money, just losing money, month after month.
	I mean, from what I understand from William Rodriguez, who was in charge of maintenance there at the Trade Center, he told me that the Trade Center was sitting at approximately a 65% occupancy.
	Which is like, you stop and think about the amount of money that they would be charging for office rentals
	And there's 35% vacancy?
	My gosh, they were losing tons, millions and millions of dollars every month.
	How would they get out of this particular financial albatross?
	Bankruptcy.
	Well, either bankruptcy, but how do they get rid of the buildings?
	In every other situation, well, you blow it up and bring them down.
	Right.
	Okay, but you can't do that in New York.
	I mean, it's too congested.
	You can't raise a pair of towers because they're losing money.
	How are you going to bring them down?
	You can't dismantle them.
	It costs five times as much to dismantle buildings of that size than it would to build brand new ones.
	So you can't dismantle them.
	You can't tear them down or blow them up.
	But they did.
	Well, yeah, but you see, they didn't do it like a planned one.
	The liability would have been horrendous.
	It had to be an accident.
	It had to be.
	That's the only way that they could bring down the Trade Center towers was to either have it an accident or have it an attack.
	That's the only way.
	And what better way to get rid of an albatross than to have an attack and blame it on somebody else?
	Now, is that or is that not several birds with one stone?
	Yep.
	Thank you.
	Welcome to the power team, dear.
	I hope to hear from you again in the near future.
	Good deal.
	Let's go to Nina in Pennsylvania.
	Long-time listener.
	How you doing, dear?
	Oh, I'm doing great, and I'm more than mad.
	I've been mad for years.
	You go, girl!
	You better believe it.
	I've been mad for many years.
	But first of all, I would encourage everyone here in eastern Pennsylvania to get their Oregison and take it.
	The chemtrails this morning, I can't even describe them.
	It's so bad.
	The sky was blue when the sun first came up.
	It is totally gray.
	I have never seen so many chemtrails.
	And I really think they're stepping it up.
	I do.
	I think so, too, because we've been getting calls from all over the country.
	Everywhere.
	I mean, we always get people telling us about the chemtrails, and it's almost a yawner at this point.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Oh, look, Joyce, we've got another envelope full of pictures of chemtrails here.
	I mean, we get pictures every week from people all over the country.
	But what has happened in the past week, you're absolutely right.
	The phone calls are crazy.
	The chemtrails were just amazing around here.
	Oh, it's unbelievable.
	I can feel it in my throat, and I'm all congested.
	I'm taking that Oregosin.
	So everybody, take advantage of the 20% off and get your Oregosin today.
	Well, thank you, dear.
	But anyway, that's not what I called about.
	Well, you better hurry with what you called about, because we've got less than a minute.
	Go.
	Okay, the ad that I sent you this morning... I got it right here.
	Okay.
	Everybody out there, it doesn't matter whether you're from the left or the right, we've got to get together and do this now.
	Bingo!
	Just forget.
	Turn off the damn TV right now.
	Get out there and do something.
	Right.
	That's right.
	You know?
	All the stuff in the world means nothing if you lose everything you have.
	If you lose your freedom, if you lose absolutely everything.
	Bingo.
	It ain't going to make a difference.
	That's right.
	Get off your butt.
	That's right.
	There we go.
	So, everyone, get mad now.
	There you go, Nina.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Hey, do me a favor this weekend.
	Go spit a couple of bullets for me.
	All right.
	We're going to take our final break.
	Oh, man, getting ready for the weekend.
	Firing them all up.
	Good deal.
	I appreciate it.
	We're going to take our final break.
	We'll be back in about three minutes to wrap it up for this Friday, and yes, this week.
	This is Dave Vunk, Licensed Power Hour at Bill in New Jersey.
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	Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to the final segment of today's Power Hour!
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	Hey, you, what are you doing here, Joyce?
	We just brought some company in for the end of the program.
	Yeah, I was telling the folks out there that the office is closed for another hour or so.
	Yeah, probably will be closed today.
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	So that's all there is to it.
	Nothing to get worried about.
	But anyway... Yeah, we will be closed today.
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	We'll get back to everybody.
	For Kirkman on Monday.
	And as you've been speaking, we've got the entire power team has filed into the studio.
	We've got Vel and Rose and Debbie and Kelly and Joe and Charlie and Matt and Susan here.
	Well, anyway.
	But tell you what, we have one more quick phone call to get through.
	Let me see if I can get a monitor here without feeding back here.
	Let's go to Bill in New Jersey.
	Bill, are you there?
	Yes, I'm here.
	Okay, cool.
	I'm listening to you on SWRMI, too.
	Welcome aboard.
	I get the feedback here.
	Okay, yeah.
	I can hear it.
	Let me turn this down a little bit.
	There we go.
	WRMI.
	WHRI, you mean.
	WHRI.
	Okay, that'll work.
	Yeah.
	Because of that bankrupt thing, I just went through that a few days ago.
	Anyway, if I came to you and I said, Dave, loan me $20,000 to buy a house,
	And you set up all the parameters how I have to pay you back.
	Yeah.
	And I got down to one payment.
	And you knew I had that money in my house, and you sent somebody in there that night to steal that money from me.
	Now I have no way of paying you.
	Yeah.
	You come knocking on my door.
	Come for the money.
	You might have broken in last night, Dave.
	I ain't got it.
	I'm going to have to foreclose on you.
	Well, I'm sorry.
	Okay.
	This is the crap that is going on in this country.
	Every so often, they change the rules.
	This was kind of a big rule to change.
	Because I know there's people that will abuse credit cards.
	But I'll tell you what, I ain't never seen so much mail come here with credit cards.
	I don't have the things.
	I don't want them.
	And so many of them come here every day.
	Every day I get these things.
	And I just don't want them.
	But there is people that abuse them.
	And they usually should pay.
	But if you, as the controller...
	I don't know if you remember that or not.
	But that's the way this is.
	Now they're trying to do the same thing with Social Security.
	They want to stick it in the stock market so they can crash that.
	Well, this is standard operating procedure, Bill, and it's just a matter of us all getting educated and figuring out how these rats have gotten into a position where they can pull this wool over our eyes time and time and time again.
	When will America learn?
	Hey, thank you so much for the call, Bill.
	We're flat out of time.
	We're right up against it here.
	Man, I tell you, I am so thrilled that so many people are figuring it out and thinking outside of the cage.
	We have a whole lot of new listeners and first-time callers here.
	It is real important.
	I mean, our entire lives and the lives of our children's children's children
	We're good to go.
	God bless you all!
	We'll see you on Monday.
	Have a blessed Sabbath and a blessed weekend.