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	Big Brother.
	Mainstream media.
	Government cover-ups.
	You want answers?
	Well, so does he.
	He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
	And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
	We're good to go.
	Dean Hagelin, nine seasons with the X-Files and a season, of course, with the Lone Gunman.
	And, of course, he's been in many, many other major motion pictures and TV shows.
	And he knows about the New World Order and is concerned about it and told us last time how the CIA, Chris Carter and others told him, would plant a lot of the plots on them.
	And NASA would as well.
	They tell him this is a good idea for him to do a piece on.
	And, of course, the Lone Gunman, just months before 9-11,
	It's a pilot episode, to be precise.
	They didn't have a season.
	Had a plot where the government, a criminal element in the government, has drills to confuse the population.
	To confuse the military and NORAD to think that it's just a drill, and they use that and remote control the plane into a building or attempt to, a passenger jet, into the World Trade Center to then blame it on imaginary hijackers, to claim that Afghanis attacked us.
	And then, of course, exactly that happens.
	So, Dean is supposed to show up around the middle of the show today, but to be in here with us in the third hour.
	And we're scheduled to videotape it as well and put it on the website at prisonplanet.tv.
	So that's coming up today.
	Pentagon doesn't deny domestic surveillance.
	The Associated Press reports that it's for all of our safety that the military's new job will be watching us and controlling our daily lives, basically.
	The House has voted to revise.
	By the way, you can change that to expand.
	You're hearing it's a reform, i.e.
	making it better, more freedom.
	No, the revision that I've looked at actually makes it worse.
	Also, I want to get into the consumer price plunge and production jumps as fuel prices go down quite a bit.
	But see how they train us.
	It goes up to $3.50 a gallon.
	And then when it gets down to $2 a gallon, we're very thankful when it was $1.50 just three years ago.
	And they're talking about it jacking back up to $3 this summer.
	So it's just a total scam.
	They say there's heavy voter turnout in Iraq.
	Just total propaganda.
	These elections are staged, and every time our government gets caught staging them, they claim Iran is shipping the fake ballots about.
	Just totally ridiculous.
	Also, our own government tried to buy silence from German kidnapped victims, kidnapped and tortured.
	That's out of Reuters.
	Pentagon surveillance of anti-war groups extends to Madison there in Wisconsin.
	Got a big article out by Steve Watson.
	Martial law no longer on the horizon.
	It's already here, part one.
	Militarized federal police all over the streets with the precedent to kill.
	And a few weeks ago, we had the mother on and her son on.
	He'd been expelled from school or suspended for a week for finding a video camera in the bathroom and taking it down and showing it to his mother.
	Well, now I've got one.
	From another part of the United States, hidden camera in boys' bathroom, KWCH 12 Eyewitness News.
	And we'll cover that when we get back, and I believe there's also a video clip with this, so we'll try to play that for you.
	Also, statistics suggest race, not a factor in Katrina deaths, is now showing that it was equally balanced out across the different states.
	Different races.
	I love the media.
	They say this thing is race, but then everything's race.
	Oh, and Don King, the convicted murderer and racketeer, just loves George W. Bush.
	Well, what racketeer doesn't?
	So we'll get into that and more on the no-fly list being expanded.
	Please stay with us.
	It's all on InfoWars.com and InfoWars.net.
	Hey folks, Alex Jones here.
	And the behavior of our police is a reflection of our government.
	One look in the mirror and we know our country is entering a high-tech police state.
	Here's just a sample from my documentary film, Police State to the Takeover.
	In downtown Seattle today, the First Amendment ended.
	The civil emergency was created by the police.
	Riot police attacked people on the street indiscriminately.
	The medical bills.
	Are going to be enormous for me.
	You see them here with their hands cupped behind their backs.
	They are being led into the Sandpoint Brig.
	The neighbors in that area of Sandpoint Naval Air Station were shocked to hear that the old brig was being reopened.
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	I remember four or five years ago, as the reports started coming in,
	...of cameras in school bathrooms, school showers, and people were just blown away.
	They were so shocked by it that even listeners didn't want to believe it.
	Despite the fact that it was in mainstream newspapers and on mainstream TV news websites, they would always spin it like, oh, it's a good thing, it's wonderful.
	Now it's becoming a weekly occurrence where not just that we see reports of cameras in the bathrooms, in the showers, sometimes not in the stalls, sometimes in the stalls, sometimes not directly on the children when they're showering, many times when they are, and they just try to say, hey, they're in our custody when they are, and we can do what we want.
	Talk about big brother here in America.
	Well, here it is.
	This is from News 12 out of Wichita, Kansas.
	Little military industrial complex town.
	Hidden camera in boy's bathroom.
	This is from KWCH-TV.
	Go to Infowars.com.
	Watch this, and then that is linked through to the story, and watch the little clip.
	An East High freshman faces expulsion for something the district says never should have happened.
	Oh, they're backing off there.
	Monday, Charles Rogers discovered a camera in the foyer of the boys' bathroom.
	The camera there, period, surprises me.
	It was a little spy camera.
	I didn't think anything like that was in the bathroom.
	I didn't think it was in the schools.
	I thought it was a perverted janitor, Charles said.
	Because, yes, if you Google search it, just a year ago or so, a janitor got a couple years in prison, and he should have.
	The perv had a camera in the girl's bathroom, and it was going back to his janitor's closet or room.
	But when the principals do it, it's good.
	He took the camera, he says.
	It was in a little hole in the ceiling tile.
	He also took the receiver, which was in the school's auditorium.
	It looked like an irregular setup.
	It wasn't in a security room.
	His mom, Melinda Rogers, said, Ms.
	Rogers says what her son did was wrong.
	Ms.
	Rogers says what her son did was wrong.
	Why don't you back your son up?
	I need to get her on and set her straight.
	But she wants to know why there was a hidden camera to begin with.
	Eyewitness News asked the district that question.
	What's wrong?
	I mean, especially if you think it's a perv's camera.
	I mean, let me tell you something.
	I found a camera in a bathroom.
	It's coming down.
	It's coming down.
	It says, cameras were installed in two boys' bathrooms at East High to see who was drawing graffiti.
	See, it's always the same thing.
	But they go on to say, it was a mistake, and we admit this was a mistake, and it won't happen again.
	And that's what the superintendent has to say.
	I think?
	As misguided as it was, he thought he was doing good and taking down the hidden camera.
	His mom said the hearing is next Thursday.
	We'll keep you posted on what happens.
	And it doesn't say here if he brought it to the principal or if he brought it to his mother like the young man in Jasper County, Georgia did.
	And they just suspended him for the week.
	And then the principal said, by the way, who hadn't told the district, it was the principal from across the street at the high school had come over there at the middle school and put this camera in the bathroom.
	And that one was into the stalls.
	It just supposedly didn't cover the entire toilet.
	And then we have to have arguments about this now with people.
	Oh, this is Big Brother.
	Oh, no, it's not.
	And I just want to advise you.
	I will not use federal or state rest areas.
	Now, I mean, I was driving down to New Mexico last Christmas for a family vacation, took off a week, and we stopped at a rest area.
	We didn't even need to, but we stopped at the rest area because you could see those giant farms of the huge...
	We had an RV.
	Windmills that generate power for some of the cities out there?
	Very science fiction looking.
	So, you know, we stopped there to admire the mountains and things, but I would not let my wife take my children into those things because a lot of times they got cameras on them.
	In fact, I saw a report, what was it, five years ago, that every rest area in Michigan, every state rest area was getting a camera in the bathroom, over the stalls.
	That was an AP article.
	So, see, I'm a weirdo because I won't go into an arrest area.
	Well, I don't want to be videotaped.
	I don't want my family videotaped.
	I don't want my children videotaped by the government.
	But let's stop right there.
	Let's just stop right there.
	Right after 9-11, they put them in four airports.
	Last time I saw an article about it a few months ago, they were saying that 20 of our biggest international airports, that's basically every one of them, here in the United States are going to have the special x-ray machines put in.
	And we've all seen the images of these on TV and the web, at least most of us have.
	We've posted them on the websites where you're totally naked.
	In fact, these have vision even greater than the human eye.
	You go, what does that mean?
	You're using your human eye to look at the image.
	Well, if I look at somebody who's standing there naked ten feet from me, I'm not going to see all their pores.
	I'm not going to see the slightest details.
	It is a higher quality vision than even your eyes can behold your wife or husband naked.
	I mean, it's so intimate.
	And it just shows everything.
	In fact, a lot of these images that were on ABC News and stuff, we wouldn't, on their websites, we wouldn't even post because they're pornographic, and we don't want to get listed as a pornographic website.
	But you've seen them.
	You know, the man sitting there, and it's online, the frontal views, every detail, everything on it.
	Women.
	And when you walk through these, hard drives are recording it.
	That's admitted.
	Hard drives.
	So...
	There you are with your wife and your three children, your two children, whatever, your wife, by herself, whatever, and you're walking through these, and at the airports that do it, they don't even tell you you're going through them.
	They just have you walk through them.
	They tell you to stand there for a second.
	They don't even question.
	And there are those people in that little glass room off to the side.
	There they are videotaping your naked body.
	You are now basically ready for your spread and playboy.
	Now, see, this is how far it's gone.
	And by the way, the TSA in New York and Boston and Chicago and L.A.
	have ordered for bus terminals and train stations.
	Guess what they've ordered?
	They've ordered those little babies, those x-ray machines, and they're going in all over the place.
	And I call them x-rays.
	They're actually, really you should call them a sonar system.
	They actually don't use x-rays.
	I don't know.
	It's just lower power.
	And they can turn it to be blurred and just see if you've got a weapon, but that's not what they do.
	They want to see detail, quote, because it's more accurate.
	So you're just naked.
	You're just naked, standing there with this sonar system, blasting your body.
	And if you don't think that's bad enough...
	Five airports have NASA brain scan passive MRI that actually pick up brain heat signatures.
	And they're, quote, using this now.
	Oh, this shows that areas of your brain associated with aggression are heated up.
	We've got to question you as being a terrorist.
	It's all pure quackery.
	And every time I mention that, people go, that's ridiculous.
	Well, just go Google it.
	That's on my website.
	You haven't heard about the brain scanners?
	You didn't hear?
	They're talking about having them in mobile trucks in London.
	Oh, by the way, in England now they have a few mobile trucks in London where they pull up to bars and make everybody walk through the sonar machines.
	Which, again, it's like the man with the x-ray vision in the 1950s movie.
	I mean, it literally is like that.
	You just see right through the clothes.
	But instead of being flesh-toned, you're purple and green and red-colored.
	But it's everything.
	Eh, just get used to it.
	It's the future.
	It's freedom.
	Marching through.
	Being scanned.
	So, here it is.
	You'll start seeing these every day instead of every week.
	And then it'll just become passe.
	And I won't even cover it anymore.
	It's just, oh yeah, cameras in the bathrooms.
	No big deal.
	Oh, yeah, the TSA now is announcing they're going to have these at the facilities, and they'll just randomly wave you over.
	Excuse me.
	Excuse me, ma'am.
	Need you to walk through here.
	Excuse me, sir.
	Thank you.
	Just checking for weapons for your own safety.
	And you're going to be recorded in their database.
	Your naked body.
	And by the way, they say off of that residence, they can even create a biometric image to then check against you later for, quote, your identity.
	And they have these big clothing shops all over the U.S.
	I started seeing this three years ago, where the new style and fitting is actually a biometric scan machine that scans down from your head to your feet.
	You get into it naked in the changing area.
	Ooh, all the ladies have got to have it perfect, tailoring, and all the fanciest places in New York that sell the $8,000 suits while they're starting it.
	And then you step in, and they caught one of the companies selling the data to the government.
	Guess what?
	The government had helped covertly finance some of the first stores to get it, and they care about you.
	But see, they could just make it a fad.
	Oh, this is how we measure you now.
	And then all these industries, they pay a few off to buy it.
	They have a PR campaign, and suddenly everybody buys it, and it's subsidized by the government because people don't know the company they're buying it from.
	It's really an NSA front company.
	I mean, our government will spend hundreds of millions of dollars just to make sure that some biometric machine gets in the clothes shops.
	You think I'm joking?
	And then, of course, then they privately make money by giving themselves, once they're out of office, contracts to their own company.
	It's like Carlaw Group's big in biometrics.
	But that's how far all of this has gone.
	Now, I don't know if they put it in more than four airports.
	I know they said it's going to be in all 20 major airports.
	I know it's been the N4 of them right after 9-11.
	So, amazing.
	Just absolutely amazing.
	This is all happening.
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	When I do the little carpetbagger joke, you know, a carpetbagger goes both ways.
	Hillary Clinton is a carpetbagger.
	She's not from New York, never lived in New York, and she just goes up there and becomes the Senator of New York.
	That's carpetbagging.
	What is carpetbagging?
	I got an email asking me.
	The carpetbaggers came down here because they weren't completely destitute.
	They were middle-class northerners, usually.
	And the South was totally devastated.
	People starving to death en masse during Reconstruction.
	Roving bands of federal troops.
	Martial law.
	Publicly.
	That's why we had Posse Comitatus.
	It finally was a reform because of the second revolt that was forming.
	It was a reform of that problem.
	And the carpetbaggers all swooped down here and they would haul back so much loot with them.
	They'd come back with people starving to death and go, we'll buy all your family's silver because nobody had money to buy silver from other southerners or land or whatever it was.
	We'll buy it from you for pennies on the dollar.
	Plus, all the Confederate money was worthless because
	And so only U.S.
	greenbacks were worth something in gold and silver.
	So they had that to exchange.
	And the carpetbaggers had so much stuff, they would use carpets.
	They would use drapes.
	Just giant wagons filled with just heaps of the loot.
	And so that's where the term carpetbagger comes from.
	So, anytime, here's another example.
	The globalist corporations coming in using cheap labor to leverage everybody's jobs down the toilet, that's carpetbaggers.
	Now, you couldn't call Mexican immigrants, illegal aliens, who by and large do want to work hard, and I don't blame them.
	The problem is that it's a globalist operation to drive down our wages and destabilize us.
	That's probably stated.
	You wouldn't call them carpetbaggers.
	We're good to go.
	We're good to go.
	It has more to do with northerners coming down here with carpet bags, but in the more popularized, more modern usage, it just means what I earlier described to you.
	So there's the dissertation on carpet bagging, in case any carpet baggers out there didn't know what it meant because they're ignorant.
	Okay.
	And you could say that whites carpet-bagged the Native Americans.
	But you would say it more correctly if you said that whites teamed up with other Indian tribes, other Native tribes, who then together carpet-bagged the other tribes through balkanization.
	Okay, now I've spent too long talking about carpet-bagging.
	But this video is all over the web, and they say that it's U.S.
	troops, but I tend to, listening to it,
	And looking at trucks that are ahead of the video in Iraq, it looks more like contractors to me.
	And most of the fuel and most of the water being driven around is via Halliburton subcontracts, brown and root contracts, and they look like contractors.
	The inside of the truck looks like a contractor 18-wheeler, and then these kids are throwing rocks at them, little rocks, and they look like maybe 10-year-old kids.
	Too stupid to know how dangerous it is, but
	Well, they've got a lot of courage, and they're throwing rocks at the 18-wheelers as they drive by.
	And then you see this troop truck come sliding up by the kids, and they run out, and the kids run, and I believe watching the video you see them grab one, but it's at a distance.
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	I think?
	And he rightfully said, you're calling them contractors.
	See, I tend to use the term that people are able to interface with.
	Clearly, up until just a few years ago, they would not be called contractors.
	They are mercenaries.
	They are mercs.
	But really, I think there's a line there.
	Could you call people driving fuel, driving oil, driving water, could you call them contractors?
	They're not armed.
	I think they should be.
	And they're being shot at.
	Well, even that is a new phenomenon.
	I mean, we really shouldn't have contractors because it allows, it's even easier for bigwigs and governments to give their buddies contracts at jacked up prices.
	And there's no bids allowed, by the way.
	And then that got spun in the media.
	Oh, well, we're not giving the French bids.
	Forget the foreigners.
	It's not just foreigners where bids weren't allowed.
	Bids weren't allowed, period, for the last two years.
	Okay?
	To American companies.
	So, there's a problem with these mercenaries.
	But clearly, the Blackwaters and the Titans and the others, the ages of the world, they clearly are mercenaries, which has always been seen as an unsavory, despicable mob of soldiers for fortune.
	But nowadays, you know, Don King, a murdering racketeer, is worshipped and loves Bush.
	So, everything must be okay.
	We'll be right back.
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	Getting back into the contractors and the troops in this video clip that's up on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com right now.
	The point of the clip is they're driving along and these little kids are throwing rocks at them.
	And they start talking about, and we can't play the clip because it's all profanity, they talk about how they want to kill them, how they want to be able to shoot them, how they wish they were authorized to, when they throw a rock at them, kill them, which they do do in Israel.
	And you know what?
	I mean, certainly the kids should probably get in trouble, be taken to the local police station.
	The problem is they'll get tortured there.
	And they do get arrested.
	I mean, you see the big army vehicle come screeching up, almost running over them.
	They're throwing rocks at them.
	So here comes U.S.
	troops in a troop truck, jumping out and chasing after them.
	And...
	But there's another wrinkle in this story.
	Another little angle to it.
	I thought it's rose petals.
	We're all loved over there.
	It's just why they're all out voting on ballots that supposedly have been shipped in by Iran.
	If you believe that, give me a break.
	Just one more lie from the father of lies that these people are controlled by.
	But under that, we have the clip of the troops and the Abrams tank crew.
	A family in a little car.
	They catch them stealing a piece of wood out of a field.
	You're not allowed to take wood.
	And the city's burning around them and they say, why aren't your kids in school?
	This is during the takeover of Baghdad.
	And then they run the car over with an Abrams tank after machine gunning it and laughing.
	And this is what you get when you loot.
	We've played that many times.
	And below that we have contractors from Aegis, they now admit it, just randomly shooting cars.
	Just cars driving down the road and they're just laughing.
	And just shooting him and watching the cars wreck, bodies falling out.
	And live on Fox TV as... And that was just a few weeks ago that happened.
	But live as they were invading Baghdad, there was no one resisting.
	They'd paid off the army grips.
	They'd paid off almost all the Republican Guard generals.
	That's now admitted.
	No one was really resisting until they got right in around the palaces.
	We're good to go.
	Six o'clock in the afternoon, summertime over there, you know, hot day, just driving into the city, really the spring, just driving into the city and just mowing everything down that moves.
	And it's not my opinion.
	I mean, I taped it off TV.
	They had little satellite phone Internet feeds of it.
	It was just nightmarish to watch that.
	And then under that, we have...
	Just a bunch of other video of them killing people and laughing about it.
	In front of reporters, our troops will just shoot little kids and then laugh about it, and the reporters scream out, British and American, right in front of the Baghdad Hotel, what did you just do?
	You just killed a child.
	That's right, and I want to kill more!
	Hoo, hoo, hoo, hoo, hoo, hoo, hoo!
	That's not what men do, start barking, Marine Corps barks, devil dog barks, I want to kill more kids.
	And you can't cover this up.
	You just don't like our troops, boy.
	I'm not the one making them breathe DU, play uranium.
	I'm not the one giving them experimental shots.
	I'm not the one that makes them pay for their own socks and makes them launder their own clothes.
	I'm not the one doing all this.
	I'm not the one that ships them back like freight and doesn't even give them a proper burial.
	I'm not the one that lied about WMDs.
	I'm not the one that put Saddam into power.
	I'm not the one that told him to invade Iran.
	I'm not the one that told him to invade Kuwait.
	I'm not the one that gave him bio-weapons and chemical weapons.
	Donald Rumsfeld did.
	I'm not the one.
	So I don't want to hear it anymore.
	Even if you believe the 9-11 fable, which is a total military-industrial-complex fabrication, we have their own documents on it, then all the evidence...
	Even if you believe that fable, Iraq's the wrong country.
	And again, most of the people that want to invade Iraq and want to kill everybody cannot even find Iraq on a map.
	Let's just go to calls, and then I'll get back into the news.
	Chris in California.
	Hi, how's it going?
	Good, sir.
	Thanks for having me.
	Thanks for calling.
	I've newly woken up, you could say.
	I first watched the Power Hour on
	They put it on public access and recently I've been downloading all the videos and stuff off the internet and it's just kind of taken me.
	I don't even know what to really say.
	It's kind of consumed what I'm doing.
	And last night I downloaded the Patriot Act and kind of a breakdown that you had on Ricky Lee Jones and I'm having a bit of trouble
	Trying to interpret it.
	The actual Patriot Act.
	Well, now I did an analysis of the first Patriot Act.
	I did one of Patriot Act II.
	I did one of the Victory Act, the Intelligence Enhancement Act.
	So I don't know which specific... Do you have the bill itself or a section-by-section analysis?
	I actually have the bill itself, I believe.
	It's like on a PDF format.
	3162?
	Is it H.R.
	H.R.
	Not sure exactly.
	Yeah, I really can't.
	That would be the first past version, October 27, 2001.
	So I would have to see what you're looking at.
	Okay.
	Okay, well, that's okay.
	What else is on your mind, sir?
	The other thing is, I'm obviously not the greatest speaker in the world, and I...
	Having issues trying to actually put out the word.
	How old are you?
	25.
	About 18?
	25.
	Well, I'm glad you're involved in the fight.
	A lot of times newcomers are around the age of 18.
	Listen.
	You don't have to be the best speaker in the world, and you probably shouldn't be out doing a whole lot of trying to proselytize until you're really educated on things, which you can do in a few months.
	You can get a crash course understanding what the New World Order is, what's happening, what empires are, what tyranny is.
	I'll agree with the Declaration of Independence.
	That's a good idea, a good place to start.
	But you saw, I would guess, one of David Joyce's documentaries recently,
	On local access TV.
	Well, what I would challenge you to do is go get your own access TV show.
	There are hundreds of great documentaries and videos.
	Put those on.
	Get involved in the fight.
	Be educating yourself while you're airing them.
	Or get some of my films.
	Make copies of them.
	Say, hey, check this out.
	It's important to your future.
	And then let the experts do the talking for you.
	And then start reading some books on the subject, start researching, visiting the websites every day.
	And in a few months, you won't be a novice anymore, and you'll be really informed.
	But you're already doing the right thing, going and looking at legislation and getting involved.
	And I can only commend you.
	Yeah, I've always been a regular news watcher, and I've always had that feeling that...
	There's always so much more going on than what was telling me.
	And just recently, it just kind of clicked, and all this other information is coming in, and I'm just trying to decipher it all.
	No, I understand, and I appreciate your call.
	Something you've also got to do, Chris, is don't believe everything I say.
	I want you to trust, to steal Reagan's term, trust but verify...
	We're good to go.
	I think?
	It's hard to stay out of it.
	I mean, it's hard for me to.
	Because it's so prevalent, and it's popular, and it's sexy, and people like it.
	But you really got to stick to what's real, what can be proven.
	And that's bizarre beyond belief.
	I mean, all these public officials and bigwigs and top TV hosts and radio hosts saying every child needs a microchip, and Bush cabinet members saying every child needs a microchip.
	I mean, that's going on.
	You know, Mexican Attorney General's ordering all his employees to get into the building to take microchips.
	I mean, that's real.
	And people will have trouble believing that if you sit them down and show them news clips of it.
	Or sit them down and show them news articles.
	Because it's so weird.
	And then you've got these outright COINTELPRO individuals who just run around attacking other patriots and run around telling people there's no hope and telling people that nothing can be done and especially spreading dislike of other races and groups.
	They do that to balkanize us.
	And whereas I'll criticize the racist groups that are out there, I'll criticize the Mechas and the Larazas and the black groups and the white groups, but then it's okay to expose all that stuff, but I'm talking about reveling in it or joining in in all of it.
	The globalists then just divide and conquer us.
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	I was about to go to Mike in Arizona, but he just hung up.
	So let's go to Ruben in Ohio.
	Ruben, you're on the air.
	Alex, after September 11th, I think one of the news anchors mentioned something I saw in a magazine.
	I've never heard of it since.
	And that's an object going from the ground up towards the Twin Towers before they collapsed.
	Are you familiar with what I'm referring to?
	Well, I know there were jets flying around.
	Clearly some F-16s streaked by after the second plane impacts.
	And I know that there were a lot of other reports of explosions and squibs, that is, ejection points from the blast going off inside the buildings, but there's all this talk of missiles and talk of pods and all of that, and we've discussed it, but I tend to just stick, again, to what we can totally prove.
	And then people get mad at me for deciding to stick to my own orthodoxy, whereas I don't criticize people.
	For getting off into other areas, I just want to be able to have my views and not be criticized by our supposed movement on those.
	A lot of these people say, don't criticize my view, but I'm going to criticize your view.
	I stick to the public officials being warned not to fly.
	I stick to NORAD standing down.
	I stick to official U.S.
	government plans to carry out 9-11.
	I stick to Bush standing down with the Secret Service for 26 minutes, and then even more time after that, there in Florida.
	I stick to bin Laden being known as CIA.
	I stick to the Taliban and al-Qaeda being protected and being flown out.
	I stick to the supposed hijackers trained at the Defense Language School at Monterey, California, and their own dean of the school saying they were some type of government operatives.
	We're good to go.
	...powers that our military's had since 1957 away from the military.
	I stick to the clear bombs in the buildings, and the firefighters saying bombs, and the seismographs showing bombs, and Building 7 not being hit, and the small fires, and a perfect controlled demolition, and the central column being imploded first, and the blast points, the explosions actually going off.
	You can see them.
	I stick to Larry Silverstein slipping up and saying he blew the building up.
	I stick to Tripod 2 and the drills that morning and how they admittedly were running a drill and then running the operation from there on the ground.
	There are hundreds of points that there's no weavling around.
	There's hundreds of points that are concrete, pun intended, that cannot be debated.
	The aerosolization of the concrete, of the steel, all of that.
	That's what I choose to expose.
	And you know what?
	I think I...
	Profoundly.
	People told me, Ruben, that I don't go to the 9-11 truth meetings, I don't go to these events, I don't prance around and fight with everyone and say, this is the right way, that's the right way.
	Because really, that's not where the battle is.
	The battle's on talk radio, the battle's on the Internet.
	The time it took me to go to some meeting to talk to 500 people, I can talk to millions right now, and I can talk to a couple million tonight on an interview on a big show, instead of doing that.
	But at the same time,
	People who were calling me a kook for saying 9-11 was an inside job for the first year of the event, or two years of the event, or in some cases three years of the event, have now set themselves up as the leaders of it and then tell me what I should and shouldn't cover.
	And I won't put up with that.
	Because there's no ifs, ands, or buts about it.
	Everybody knows it.
	I talked about it two months before.
	I talked about it on the day of the event and got a lot of heat for it.
	I am the father of the 9-11 truth movement.
	Yeah, you're the godfather to the granddaddy.
	Well, I don't even like having that position.
	It's quite frankly dangerous.
	Well, whether you like it or not, it's yours.
	You know what I'm saying?
	It's been thrust upon you.
	Well, I did charge up the hill first, and there's no debating it.
	And then I got a bunch of people who waited until we took the hill, and now they got the nerve.
	But I don't even want the medals.
	Here's the analogy.
	I don't even want the medals.
	I don't care about them.
	But then I've got to watch somebody else prance up to the top and tell everybody how he took out the enemy machine gunners.
	It's just not true.
	Um...
	There's another 9-11 point I want to bring your attention.
	Alex, I was watching this video called The Corporation, and I have it queued up where the stockholder talks about how the price of gold doubled during 9-11.
	Can I play it for you?
	Okay, here we go.
	Sure, go ahead.
	It's two minutes long, and then he says something interesting about Iraq.
	I've got to be honest with you.
	When the September 11th situation happened,
	I didn't know that... I must say... I want to say this because it's... I want to take it lightly.
	It's not a light situation.
	It's a devastating act.
	It was really a bad thing.
	It was one of the worst things I've seen in my lifetime.
	But I will tell you, and every trader will tell you, who was not in that building...
	And who was buying gold and who owned gold and silver?
	Now, when it happened, the first thing you thought about was, well, how much is gold up?
	The first thing that came to mind was, my God, gold must be exploding.
	Fortunately for us, all our clients were in gold.
	So when it went up, they all doubled their money.
	Everybody doubled their money.
	It was a blessing in disguise.
	Devastating.
	Well, I tell you, that's all I can play of that because the audio quality isn't the best.
	And I'm not familiar with the, I believe it's a documentary called The Corporation.
	Yeah, that was Carlton Brown.
	And then he talks about in 91 how the price of oil went from $13 to $30 after we attacked.
	And how the stockholders couldn't wait for us to bomb Saddam.
	I've heard of that film.
	Will you send me a copy of it, please?
	Absolutely.
	Well, you're a sweetheart.
	But listen, what I'm trying to get at here is that since you brought up gold, since you brought up that key point...
	You know there were hundreds of billions, this was admitted, of gold in those towers.
	Gold does not disappear.
	Gold is not damaged.
	Gold will not evaporate until something ridiculous like 10,000 degrees or something.
	Even then, it condenses back down to its original hard state.
	I forget what temperature it turns to gas.
	It was a bank robbery.
	The point is, where is all that gold exactly?
	Exactly.
	I mean, where is it?
	Where is the gold?
	You know what else is interesting, Alex?
	Those towers were named after the Rockefellers, right?
	Yes, Rockefeller Center.
	There's one Rockefeller Center down the road, and then that's the Rockefeller Port Authority, but they sold out of the Rockefeller Port Authority three months before 9-11.
	Very convenient.
	Have you ever seen the Rockefellers interviewed on how they felt about that day?
	No, we haven't.
	You bring up a lot of good points, Ribbon.
	Call back any time.
	God bless you.
	And we'll talk to Mike and Chris and Cliff and many others when we get back.
	And we've got Dean Hagelin coming up in about 40 minutes.
	Stay with us.
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	But then it's also hard to try to articulate all that.
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	Well, so does he.
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	You know, it's not that big of a deal on the surface, but it's an illustration of just how sick we've gotten.
	Don King is a convicted murderer.
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	The evidence is he beat two people to death, but he was convicted of killing one person.
	I mean, he is a mean criminal hombre.
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	And he has a monopoly over boxing in this country and is a mafioso by every definition.
	Big friends with the Bushes.
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	Crooks are crooks, folks.
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	Dean Hagelin, the Hollywood star.
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	Chris in Arkansas.
	Thanks for holding.
	Welcome.
	God bless you, Alex.
	You're doing a great job.
	I've called numerous times before, and...
	Like I've said before, I spent three years out in the 82nd Airborne Division, and this is all non-classified information.
	You can find it in any military book if you want to research about it.
	Katrina really bothers me because the 82nd Airborne Division can be anywhere in the world within 72 hours, and it can drop several combat-ready brigades
	Down on the ground with field artillery, with jeeps, with .50 calibers, around 4,000 men, all well armed, and I just see a disconnect between that and we have American citizens sitting in a city, you know, 9, 10, 12 hours away from Fort Bragg, and they sit in a
	In an American city, and they nearly starved to death.
	Well, there's no debating it.
	I don't know about the levees being blown.
	And again, everybody focuses on that.
	I know FEMA jammed police communications as the storm hit.
	I know they cut police communications and the police had to, at gunpoint, restrain them and in three parishes guard their facilities from them.
	I know that there was food three days after piled up in front of the Superdome
	And they would not let them bring the food into them, and that was not shown on the news.
	I know they sabotaged it on purpose, and now the memos have come out that, oh, FEMA new response was broken day one.
	And they spin it like, oh, they knew they were idiots.
	No.
	They knew by screwing up, even if they get a public spanking, they get massive increased powers and increased funds.
	It was cynically done.
	We know that.
	They wouldn't let the police in to help people.
	Well, I saw a local report on our local Little Rock News, where FEMA has, in the state of Arkansas, they've got 60 trailers plus, more than that, but they've got like 60 trailers, fully hooked up, ready to go.
	Two days after Walmart was stopped for money against trucks driving to bring food to people.
	Ready to be used, and there are...
	Evacuees from Katrina who are having to pay and they're staying in hotel rooms.
	But don't worry, we've got plenty of the new Viper teams from the airports to patrol our streets and shake us down.
	Don't you feel safe?
	Well, Alex, they're in hotels and they're a mile away from where the trailers are.
	But FEMA won't let anybody use them.
	They're just sitting right there.
	And that's disgusting.
	That's extremely disgusting.
	But, I mean, you understand.
	It's just like Iraq.
	Do the corporations make more money if they're a decade and, quote, fail, or if they're a year and succeed?
	That's designed to fail.
	Designed to fail.
	Planned obsolescence.
	Anything else?
	That's all.
	God bless you.
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	Program note out of the way.
	You know, the Internet's a small part of our audience compared to the AM and FM and Shorterwave.
	Well, I think it's bigger than Shorterwave now.
	It still is very important, and it gives us people in every town, every city, all over the world.
	We have listeners from Japan, to South Africa, from China, to the United Kingdom, to Venezuela, to Chile, to even weather stations in McMurtle in Antarctica.
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	We've got it all ironed out and humming along like a well-oiled machine, but I'm just going to add a whole nother of the latest super-powerful servers as a backup system on top of that, all seamlessly interwoven so you can get that material you need.
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	I believe in more boots on the ground in the Infowar in cyberspace.
	We're doing that.
	We're launching more flotillas, basically, more troop ships to board the enemy vessels and take them.
	Now we're getting off into the information warfare philosophy here, and I'm trying to draw parallels with past days with it.
	I think I'm succeeding in babbling, is what I'd have to say.
	I'm babbling, babbling very profusely.
	Drudge report.
	CNN, the Situation Room, 4 p.m.
	yesterday...
	Wolf Blitzer, host.
	Don King is known worldwide as a big-time boxing promoter.
	Really?
	But has also taken some new fights on recently.
	You love George Bush.
	I love George Bush because I think he's a revolutionary.
	Can't really do Don King, but... The president that comes in with the conclusiveness...
	What they're doing tomorrow in Iraq is a demonstration of that for the vote for democracy.
	The fundamental process of democracy is freedom of speech, law and order, being able to give freedom, working with people and working with governing yourselves.
	George Bush is that.
	He included in.
	Blitzer.
	Do you have any regrets supporting him?
	Take a look at the picture with you where I were there at the dinner last year.
	Do you have any regrets supporting him enthusiastically as you did?
	King, no I don't.
	In fact, I want to support him more now because it seems like everybody is punching him.
	You know what I mean.
	But he's fighting back.
	I can't do it anymore.
	And he's throwing great combinations, and I think he's the guy that is really a revolutionary president.
	And King knows exactly what he's saying when he says that.
	But taking these suckers is great.
	I think he's a president that cares about the people he represents, but doesn't compromise himself to the extent that he acquiesces and accommodates.
	He goes out there and says like it is, and tries to make things better.
	Inclusiveness, education, is fighting for that.
	And then it goes on.
	These are the things that many, many guys that don't fight for.
	George Walker Bush is a tremendous advocate to America, a great president for the great American people, and he's decisive.
	He doesn't equivocate.
	Sorry about starting a Don King accent.
	I haven't heard him in so long.
	I don't know what he talks like, but it's real obnoxious and fast.
	Kind of like myself, but with a Georgia accent with some Yankee mixed in.
	But the point is that Don King is a convicted murderer.
	Don King beat somebody to death that didn't pay him back a debt for gambling.
	He was a lone shark enforcer for the mafia.
	And then he became, I guess, a made man in his own right.
	And I think the evidence says Don King is a front for some even larger interest, and they have a monopoly over most of the fights in this country.
	And he's ruined boxing, by the way.
	They won't let any real fighters come up.
	It's totally controlled.
	The purses are so big that you might get one fight a year.
	I mean, it's a joke.
	He's ruined heavyweight boxing.
	Let me be specific.
	Which I tended to like growing up a little bit.
	Think of the old days back when our parents were kids and our grandparents were watching the fights.
	My mother talked about growing up and her dad at home at night after being a lease hound and before that a roughneck in the oil fields, drinking Pabst Blue Ribbon beer and watching the fights on the black and white TV.
	You don't see that anymore because of corruption.
	Corruption burns everything down.
	Corruption minimizes your choices.
	And you've got this creature
	Don King, this enforcer, this racketeer, this oily creature, and over the years I've read about it, I don't even follow boxing that much, but how he and Bush Sr.
	just love each other and hang out and go to dinner, and they're just such big buddies.
	Because Bush Sr.
	He likes crooks.
	likes that.
	He's a CIA hitman himself.
	They like men who burn their bones.
	I mean, I guess Don King could say to Bush Sr., I earned my bones when you were dating cheerleaders, boy.
	That's what I like about it.
	I mean, it's just a sick joke.
	This is who runs our country.
	Criminals, mobsters, gangsters.
	And I've got to hear from some murderer?
	Some murderer?
	I've got to hear from some mafia twit?
	Who made his money shoving people around and squeezing people and going into businesses and shaking people down?
	Let me tell you something.
	A big fat Don King walked through my office door and tried to shake me down.
	He wouldn't like what happened.
	That's why they operated in places where people put up with it.
	And I see my fellow Texans turning into jellyfish.
	Now I see stuff like that going on around here.
	I mean, I'm just sick of it.
	And it just shows you how criminal they are.
	Negroponte, all these guys, top torture masters involved in all sorts of crimes and money laundering and drug dealing, and it's just all admitted, and they're just up there laughing at us.
	A bunch of gangsters snickering and laughing with big fancy advertisement PR firms telling you how great they are.
	And Hillary having big dinners with Murdoch and the Bushes and Clinton having meetings with them.
	It's all just snickering and laughing at us.
	Clinton and Don King are buddies.
	It's all of them laughing at us.
	Ha ha, they're a bunch of stupid idiots.
	Look it, I love America.
	Look at how we sucked all these idiots.
	That's why I said I love America.
	George Bush loves America too.
	Where else can cokeheads and murderers and criminals and racketeers and drug dealers run everything?
	With an ignorant, gullible, thumb-sucking population.
	Alright, I'm just really getting angry.
	I'm sorry.
	Don.
	And Don King's this pop icon.
	Oh, isn't he cute?
	With the little white hair sticking up on top of his head.
	Isn't he sweet?
	Who's up first?
	Who's up first in line here?
	You know what?
	We'll just go to them after the break.
	I'm not going to go to them right now and then not give them time and then have to hold them over.
	We'll take a bunch of your calls when we get back.
	1-800-259-9231.
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	I mean, we should be angry.
	We've got criminals stomping all over us.
	Hiking their leg on us, treating us like trash.
	They've militarized the police, got them acting like mafia enforcer goons themselves.
	They're building giant FEMA camps everywhere.
	Setting up national ID cards.
	They've got goon teams marching around demanding to see our IDs, federal, state, and local.
	Cameras going up everywhere, run by absolute criminals.
	It's like DynCorp, what now CSC, downtown.
	Moved in there with Computer Science Corporation.
	They run all the city's data collection information.
	I was just talking to my friend about that yesterday.
	Formerly DynCorp.
	All the things DynCorp's done.
	I mean, it makes the worst horror movie look tame.
	Just, just, just... But now they're just here.
	I just run things.
	Ah, you know.
	That's how it is.
	You know, let me tell you something.
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	E equals MC squared is wrong.
	What are you talking about?
	Einstein's equations have errors.
	It's in this book I've been reading, The Collapse of Special Relativity.
	That can't be right.
	Where did you hear about that?
	In Requiem for Relativity, The Collapse of Special Relativity.
	A book at relativitycollapse.net and relativitycollapse.com.
	I liked what they had to say, so I bought it at amazon.com.
	I don't know.
	It sounds like it'd be complicated to read.
	That's where you're wrong.
	It's written with a
	I'd like to get the point across.
	It also has many detailed drawings.
	Are you sure?
	I mean, E equals MC squared.
	That's got to be wrong.
	It is.
	That's not what I meant.
	Where'd you find that book?
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	You know, I ignore threats to my person most of the time.
	But I've been ignoring it so bad that I didn't even really pay attention to a pretty high level threat.
	Military intelligence officer I've known for years who warned me about something about three months ago.
	And now the pieces came together.
	And I'm not going to reveal a lot more than that.
	But we'll just wait until the next segment.
	I'm going to spend a minute or two on it.
	Because I don't talk about this stuff for nothing, folks.
	This is serious.
	These are very serious people.
	So I'll mention it.
	Because that tends to put them out in the lights, the hot lights, which they don't like.
	They like to creep around like cockroaches when it's in the dark.
	About to go to Terry, but he just hung up, so let's go to Richard.
	And Richard, where are you calling us from today?
	Omaha.
	Welcome, sir.
	Go ahead.
	I just heard some earlier caller mention about they want to know about the gold and silver reserve in the Twin Towers.
	What happened to that, you know, they thought there was some, but nobody could verify it?
	No, it was verified, sir.
	There was billions and millions of dollars of gold in there, but it all just magically disappeared and never been discussed.
	Yeah, that was my point of it exactly.
	About that as well, and I'm sorry if that got past me on that aspect of it.
	No, that's okay, sir.
	What's your point?
	Go ahead.
	Oh, well, that was my point, that the first 24 hours, they made a big deal of it on all the news and everything.
	Then all of a sudden, it just dropped like everything.
	Oh, one thing about Mayor Giuliani, it was more important that he find the gold and silver and everything.
	More than that.
	After that, then all of a sudden you wanted everybody, you saw him wanting to have everybody search high and low.
	First we heard there was $170-something billion, then they tried to reduce it to $100 billion, then we heard it was over $200 billion.
	We don't know the exact number, but there were two huge vaults in there, Federal Reserve vaults, and they're just gone, and gold doesn't disappear.
	If it melts, it coalesces, right?
	But did they just, quote, ship the wreckage to China and no accounting?
	See, I mean, think about this.
	No accounting, no forensics, no research.
	Just believe our official story.
	Shut up.
	Boy, that, I mean, the FBI, I mean, talk about an FBI.
	I mean, the FBI would be having a conniption, if something like that.
	Well, they're told to shut up, and so it'd be like if, say, Fort Knox got blown up, let's say, or a big earthquake happened and Fort Knox collapsed into a crater, and then they just said, oh, we're not going to talk about the gold that was there.
	It's in the crater, but we'll just never discuss it, and it's going to disappear now, and don't you bring it up.
	Thanks for the call.
	Good to hear from you, Richard.
	Thank you for calling.
	Let's talk to Larry in California.
	You're on the air.
	Go ahead.
	Hey, Alex.
	This is Larry in Huntington Beach, California.
	Yes, sir.
	Welcome.
	I have some interesting information you and your guests might be interested in.
	I have been interviewing a guy who has done intelligence work for many multinational groups, and just to get the cut to the chase, what he has been explaining to me is that it doesn't matter when we pull out of Iraq,
	It has been in the working for about three decades to use the Iraqi war as a covert operation to bring about the rise of a Shiite empire between Iraq and Iran, and to allow the Shiite empire to then go to war, civil war, with the Sunni Muslims, and so on and so forth.
	But that we're not really there trying to bring about democracy, rather,
	We're part of a secret move to bring about a Shiite Muslim empire.
	Well, we always knew they wanted to create balkanization and get everybody fighting with each other and have it be civil war.
	I mean, we have declassified documents from 83 where that was the plan for Iraq.
	We have public statements in 2000.
	We have PNAC documents.
	And now I was listening to NPR a few weeks ago, and like show after show, I was listening for hours.
	Off and on doing chores was going, well, maybe we don't need to bring peace.
	Just three different or four different areas with a weak central.
	Maybe that's the plan.
	Well, that's always been the plan, and then have NATO slash UN I-4 troops in there.
	But I don't know about any making the whole place a pan-Shiite area, because they're not Shiites in the central and northern areas.
	Right.
	That's part of the...
	They want to use the Shiite military.
	The Shiites basically go in there and try to centralize it.
	Hey, guess who just walked in here?
	This is Dean Hagelin.
	Hey, buddy, how you doing?
	Well, listen, send me some info on that.
	Do you have a website?
	Are you posting these interviews?
	I would like to mail them to you.
	Do you have a good address?
	Yes, it's 3001 South Lamar, L-A-M-A-R, Suite 100, Austin, Texas, 78704.
	Okay, thank you so much.
	Good hearing from you.
	Thanks a lot, bro.
	And we've got some more news coming up, some more of your calls.
	And then coming up, Dean Haglund in studio.
	We'll be right back.
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	Okay, we've got Debbie Morrow joining us for about four minutes.
	And then I'm going to go back to your calls.
	And coming up in the next hour, he's in here right now setting up his camera.
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	We've got a link up on InfoWars.com to Dean Haglund's website.
	Now listen, I don't say this to try to get attention.
	I actually don't like talking about it.
	I don't even like consciously thinking about it myself.
	But this is a dangerous business we're in.
	And remember about six months ago we played Cynthia McKinney grilling Rumsfeld?
	And she brought up how NORAD stood down on 9-11.
	She brought up the war games.
	She brought up...
	A bunch of issues.
	She also brought up DynCorp, which was bought by Computer Science Corporation, whose base, their main base is here in Austin.
	They moved here a couple years ago.
	And basically took over the city.
	It's very spooky.
	Took over city programming, just all...
	Um, other kinds of systems.
	Dean, when you want to plug that in, I think during the next break I'll be able to do that.
	If not, I think there's a power cord, power strip over there.
	We're doing some engineering here on air.
	But hey, that's why it's Real Radio.
	But seriously, actually during the next break, Ryan will be able to help you.
	Ryan Slickeyes and the Slickmeister.
	But, that's Bill Clinton, not Ryan.
	But this is really serious, folks.
	I played that clip about DynCorp, and I got on my local TV show here in Austin.
	It's very popular.
	And I played the clip, and I talked about how DynCorp had been bought out by CSC.
	And I said, I don't know if CSC's bad.
	I know computer science corporations into data and databases and things like that, a lot of Big Brother-type stuff.
	But I said, I haven't really researched them.
	I don't know.
	I just know they're big.
	And we've got the clip.
	It's eight minutes long.
	What I'll do is probably isolate the small clip about DynCorp kidnapping kids.
	And then Rumsfeld doesn't deny it, because it has been in BBC, AP, Reuters.
	They kidnapped 200,000 women and children with the United Nations.
	You think 200,000?
	That's two giant football stadiums gone.
	And some were used as slave labor maids, others as sex slaves.
	And that's public.
	And for years, I get on local Austin TV, even before Sidney McKinney talked about it, and I said, you know, DynCorp is able to do this, and nobody gets in trouble.
	And then Rumsfeld said, well, we put them in the penalty box.
	We didn't give them contracts for a year.
	You know, that's their punishment.
	And see, this sounds Orwellian.
	This sounds like the X-Files.
	This sounds like the Outer Limits.
	It sounds like all of that, but it's not.
	This is America.
	This is the real world.
	This is really happening.
	And I have a friend, high-level military intelligence, and then I have another associate who's retired high-level army intelligence.
	And first the army intelligence fellow calls me, and he's nothing but a good source.
	And he says, Alex...
	Do you know what Computer Science Corporation is?
	And, of course, I get so busy, I didn't put two and two together.
	I knew they bought DynCorp.
	I knew that they had three big city buildings downtown.
	I knew that they ran all the city's data.
	I knew that their main home base was here.
	And I said, yeah, I know about Computer Science Corporation.
	He said, well, we've got somebody inside there, and they overheard some pretty serious characters saying that they're going to, quote, take you down.
	It's time to take you down, take you out.
	And I said, well, I don't know what that means.
	Why would a computer come?
	And I was like blind to it.
	It's like I almost went into self-amnesia because normally I make all these connections and know all these points.
	I'd forgotten that I'd talked about how that's now dying core.
	Okay?
	And he just said, you better take this serious.
	He's never told me stuff personally about myself.
	Then I get another call, never mentioned it on air, another call from another source saying the same thing.
	And I was out a few weeks ago when the Watson brothers were here from England canoeing, and I was looking at the CSC buildings off the river, and I was saying, CSC, CSC, Computer Science Corporation, what is it?
	Why would they have people inside one of their compartmentalized units saying, I've got to be taken down, taken out?
	Both those things were said.
	And then I said, there's something missing.
	There's something I'm not going to worry about.
	And then I just realized, that's DynCorp.
	That's DynCorp.
	And so that's actually scary.
	When the biggest mercenary company in the world, I mean, we're talking serious people who got caught with the U.N.
	kidnapping women and children on an industrial scale, thousands of flights, brimming with women and children out of the Balkans.
	I mean, that...
	That actually scares me.
	I'll tell you how it scares me.
	Because I want to continue my work.
	I'm not afraid of dying.
	I am afraid of not finishing my work.
	And see, I've almost got blinders on to ignore threats.
	I really do.
	And I hadn't consciously thought about what a threat this is.
	And, you know, I've got sources.
	I've got two different sources on the same intel inside your company.
	I'm not saying all of computer science corporations are doing this.
	I'm not saying... I mean, clearly, I've got to learn more now and find out specifics which people were reluctant to give me about what group it is inside there.
	My sources said we can't tell you much more than that.
	I don't know if this is a message inadvertently through them, they want me to hear about this, but I'm pretty popular in this county, and I've got an idea that we've got fans inside there.
	Just don't shoot your mouths off, okay?
	Because if something happens to me, I demand the full autopsy, I demand they look for derivatives in my blood that show that certain poisons have been metabolized, because they can cover up the poison, but not the metabolizing enzymes that show that that's been metabolized.
	If I get killed in a car wreck or some lunatic out of the insane asylum gets out and shoots me or anything happens to me, you know where to look.
	And it's right down there off the river, right beside Congress.
	It's right there, the big CSC building.
	And I don't appreciate it.
	And I don't appreciate people shooting their mouths off.
	Let me tell the employees of something over there.
	Do you want it?
	Do you want it on your hands?
	Do you want it?
	I mean, I would imagine most of you weren't involved in what DynCorp did with the U.N.
	over there.
	Look, I'm not the bad guy standing up for those women and children.
	And don't try to poo-poo it.
	Don't try to make excuses.
	Don't try to rationalize it.
	Don't try to make excuses.
	Don't try to say you weren't involved.
	Don't try to say I'm exaggerating.
	There is no exaggeration.
	I've got congressional hearings where Rumsfeld doesn't even deny it.
	And I'm sorry I'm for those little kids.
	And you know what?
	If I've got to die for those little kids, so be it.
	It's a good price to pay.
	Somebody's got to stand up for these people.
	Somebody's got to stand up against you bullies.
	Somebody's got to do it.
	And I think God's going to bless me.
	I think God's going to protect me, if that's His will.
	But I'm not afraid of you.
	I'm only afraid of not being able to finish my work.
	And I ask God to put a hedge of protection around me and my loved ones and people that work for me so that we can continue our work.
	And I know that hedge has been there.
	And I know there are a lot of good people in those companies.
	And I'm not intimidated by you, and I'm not afraid of you.
	You understand me?
	The gauntlet's down.
	I've already gone to the point of no return.
	You don't scare me.
	The last time I began to talk about this, we just so happened to have Colonel Craig Roberts on, who, let's just say, close to helping me see clearly on these issues.
	And right when I said that they will, they talked about how they want to take me down, we were thinking it was technical, boom, right then, which it had never happened in like a year.
	Right as I said that, and it's been happening intermittently since then, even in different studios and different lines.
	I've been ranting.
	I've got a bunch of news and your calls and everything.
	Debbie Morrow, I'm sorry you had to sit there and listen to that and sit through that.
	I've just got to protect myself.
	I don't blame you.
	I'm glad to hear you talk like that because I agree with you 100%.
	Too many people are getting away with horrendous acts and I agree with you completely.
	The more you talk like that, the more safe you'll be.
	Well, I mean, I don't like doing it, but when I get it from two different sources, and, you know, again, my mind automatically saw it as, oh, they mean the show.
	You know, they're technical experts.
	And I forgot, they bought the biggest merc group in the world who just has done, who is engaged in crimes so monumental it dwarfs all imagining.
	I mean, imagine a horror movie where there's a U.S.
	corporation that kidnaps 200,000 women and children.
	I mean, you'd think that movie was ridiculous.
	Here they are, operating out in the open, and they don't like me talking about them.
	Well, they can go to... You know what?
	I know where they're going, and I'm just not afraid of them.
	Well, I'm very, very proud of you.
	No, it's not.
	You shouldn't be proud of me.
	Look, we've gotten in this position because we've put up with people like this.
	That's right.
	I mean, how else am I supposed to respond to psychopathic scum?
	Right.
	You know, that's what tyranny and dictatorship is, is when you get psychopathic scum running things.
	Mm-hmm.
	Alright, I'm going to shut up.
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	It's a great weight on me, folks.
	You bet.
	I get into self-denial sometimes about the danger of what I do, but I always, when I face it, I recommit and move forward.
	I've told the stories before about how every once in a while when my shields aren't up, my conscious shields, and I'll wake up at 4 a.m.
	covered in sweat and think, my gosh, I'm Alex Jones.
	I mean, I am out here fighting these people at point-blank range.
	They all know exactly who I am.
	And I kind of see how I get more and more at the forefront of things, and it becomes daunting.
	But at the same time, it becomes empowering.
	And my only frustration is I don't do that good of a job.
	I don't cover all the things I should cover.
	I'm not able to articulate my full understanding of things that I need to impart.
	Not that it's something special, but it's something you need to know.
	I think my views are unusually accurate.
	So frankly, I guess it is somewhat special.
	We're all special.
	We all need to impart our knowledge and get informed and inform others.
	And my biggest frustration is just not being able to fight these people.
	Not being here to fight them.
	Not being able to stay in the fight.
	That's my only fear.
	Not making the films I've dreamed of making.
	Not really imparting the information that I need to impart.
	Not getting down to what really needs to be done.
	Not being here.
	To see all the other people that are going to wake up and how this fight's going to play out.
	But, I mean, seriously, folks, I mean, it's scary to consciously go, man, this company that has elements of it, of DynCorp, kidnapped with the United Nations 200,000 women and children.
	I mean, the numbers of that.
	And shipped them all over the world.
	And to know that it's just something our news doesn't talk about.
	You just don't talk about the slave brothels in Israel and Saudi Arabia and over in Asia, Thailand and places.
	And they even have some cruise ships.
	That was even in World Net Daily.
	They did one report on it about a big Bill Clinton Democratic staff party, week-long party on a slave ship with slave whores.
	God bless them.
	You can call them whores.
	They're just...
	Forgive me.
	What do you call them?
	Slave women, sex slaves.
	I mean, to actually face that.
	I mean, that's real.
	They were caught.
	And to know they sit around.
	I mean, what in the world is wrong with you, you mercenaries?
	I'm bad because your company did that, and you control a lot of the government so nothing happened to you?
	I mean, you people...
	You just think we're like a chicken.
	You want to eat a chicken, you go break our neck in the yard and go pull our gizzard out and pull our guts out and stuff us and put us in the oven.
	You treat us just like we're cattle.
	You treat us like we're a Coca-Cola to pull out of the refrigerator and pop the top on and just slurp us down like we don't exist, you pieces of filth.
	What's wrong with you?
	How do you operate like this?
	How do you not have a conscience?
	How do you do what you do?
	And then how do you people out there not fight them?
	I'll tell you, I know what I've got to do.
	I need to go down there and start bullhorning that dying core facility.
	I need to really start exposing them.
	You know, the hair on the back of my neck stands up whenever I talk about them.
	I know what it is, okay?
	I know what I'm doing.
	But it's got to be done.
	And if we'd all just stand up, we could take these people, and we could try them, and we could hang them up.
	We could hang them up.
	We could take this filth and put them in hell.
	We could do what we're supposed to do.
	But you know what?
	Our government's been seized by terrorists.
	And I want Austin cops to know, when you drive by the CSC building, most of those people aren't bad in that building.
	Most of them are off to the compartmentalized cops.
	But I want you to know, a division of that company is the most bloodthirsty, murdering, kidnapping scum that I have ever identified.
	I mean, hell, the Soviets just killed you.
	Most of the time they didn't rape you.
	And they take your kids for re-education.
	But Nazis, you know, they shoot you in the back of the head.
	Not these people.
	So I'm going to be a bigger man than you ever were.
	I'm not afraid of you.
	I don't have to go join your evil.
	I'm not under your black wings.
	I'm not part of your system.
	You're a bunch of cowards.
	You're a bunch of scum.
	You make me sick.
	You are total trash.
	You think you're strong because you can hurt weak, meek people?
	You do that because you're weak!
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	All right.
	I'm going to take a few of your calls right now.
	Coming up in the next hour, for the full hour, we're honored to have Dean Hagelin joining us to talk about the New World Order, talk about some of the stuff we've covered in the past, but some new information as well.
	We've got links to his website up on Infowars.com right now.
	I've got all these callers here, and I keep forgetting who's up next.
	Who would be next?
	Jay in Colorado, you're on the air, sir.
	Go ahead.
	I just called to pretty much talk about a couple things that people can do to spread the word without putting themselves out on the line, because some people are afraid to get told they're crazy or whatever.
	You can just, one, get some of your bumper stickers, put them on your cars, a couple of them so everybody can see them.
	Other than that, you can hang stuff up in your window of your car, you can
	No, I agree with you.
	I mean, there's so much we can do to wake people up.
	But look, I mean...
	It's not even hard to sell the truth to people anymore.
	We're living in a bizarro police state.
	Now they're going to have the TSA goons all over the streets here in Texas.
	I mean, it's not just in New York or Illinois or California.
	Now we're going to have federal goons, militarily trained, running around demanding our papers.
	It's a joke.
	Well, Sidney, I find more so than not believing what you're saying or just thinking you're crazy is that, at least with the people I tell, the people I choose to tell...
	They seem to just think it's no chance to do anything about it.
	What are they going to do?
	That's the response I get probably 99% of the time.
	Even people that... Well, I tell you, there's so much legislation that we've beaten here locally, just a few of us getting involved.
	There's so many things nationally that we've fought.
	If we weren't involved, things would be exponentially worse.
	Things would be so much more horrible if we weren't involved.
	What is the... Another problem that a guy was just telling me at work that's all...
	And that's how they play it.
	And then when the Democrats are in, the Republicans will play the part as the outside party fighting against the elite.
	It's a total double-team.
	Well, I mean, where can you, as far as meetings or groups or even protests or action-type groups, I mean, how many groups are there out there that are not?
	We have to stop using their labels.
	We have to get way off the use of left-right.
	That was not the terms that were used until 100 years ago, and the big banks paid for endowments at universities and created what they call modern political science.
	And they started telling them that no longer was it freedom versus slavery.
	Serfdom versus liberty.
	Everything then shifted to left and right.
	And then they could package both the same elitist programs and operations under those, have a few little differences.
	Window dressing, and they give you the illusion of choice.
	Everything in this propaganda system is about the illusion of choice.
	I'm out of here.
	Good questions.
	I appreciate your call.
	Other callers that are holding patiently, Joe, Al, many, many others, your calls are coming up.
	Toll-free number to join us in the third hour, 800-259-9231.
	And we'll leave discussions of DynCorp in this hour and get into 9-11 and many other issues in the next.
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	All right, my friends, we're now into the third and final hour of this December 15, 2005 Thursday edition.
	You know, I got a surprise, I don't know, six, eight months ago, a year ago, I don't remember now, Dean, when Dean Hagman, who I've watched on the X-Files and who I'd also seen on The Lone Gunman, and I talked about that particular pilot episode quite a bit because it's parallels
	It's almost exact parallels with 9-11 when Dean Hagelin gave me a call and said, Hey, I'm in town.
	Or actually, one of his local radio producer friends did.
	And then I called Dean.
	And then Dean came over to my house and said, I'm making a little documentary and I want to interview you.
	And I said, I'm going to interview you.
	And then we even got him on the radio for 30 minutes.
	But now we've got him for a full hour.
	And Dean, of course, has a long bio, a lot of movies, a lot of TV shows.
	But he's also a really smart guy.
	And very, very informed.
	And so he's here to talk with us today and take your calls and go over a plethora of issues.
	Dean, for folks that don't know who you are, why don't you tell the listeners out there just a little bit more about yourself.
	Right.
	It's great to see you again, by the way.
	Good to see you.
	For those that don't know, I was an actor on The X-Files for nine seasons, ten years, plus our own spin-off, The Lone Gunman.
	I'm the one that looked like Garth from Wayne's World.
	Thank you very much for everyone who's hit the button.
	Yeah, I had the long blonde hair and the horn-rimmed glasses and the rock t-shirts with the Ramones and all that sort of thing.
	You were my favorite character, I have to say.
	I was always glad whenever the conspiracy theorist guys popped up.
	That's right.
	And you know, the writers, like Chris Carter and Vince, they were listening to shows like yours and Art Bell and stuff to get a sense of how to write for us and how to do that.
	You were major, major influences.
	Wow, I'm flattered.
	I didn't know that.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	They were all keeping tabs on everything, which made the show so relevant back then.
	And I thought I hit the big time when...
	When the creator of King of the Hill told me that some of the characters on there were after us.
	Is that right?
	Mike Judge.
	Well, yeah, you know the Black Helicopter people.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Blackhead and... Dale in his basement.
	Yeah, they kind of combined that character with some others.
	You know, they always have it set at the AXIS TV studio.
	All the craziness.
	I don't know why we're getting so much attention.
	But I like that attention.
	It's better than attention from Dime Corps.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Though I just heard about that now that you...
	You're a bit threatened by these guys.
	Man, I tell you, these are the guys to be threatened by.
	Well, you know, this is just a testament to the good work you're doing.
	I mean, if you didn't have that kind of influence, they would just ignore you completely.
	It actually just gives me the willies.
	That type of evil gives me the...
	Where does that come from?
	It's like another universe.
	It is another.
	And it's that level of fear on those corporate structure parts that just indicate that there's a huge cultural shift coming that I've seen over the last year.
	You know, since we talked in this documentary that I've been doing,
	What I've found is that there is something larger going on that is phenomenal.
	That will, as you said, you know, left, right's an illusion and all that.
	We're somehow having this ability to see past these illusions, to see past these power structures that will just, I think, tear down the walls.
	Well, it's like selling icy, frosty lemonades in hell.
	I mean, 10, 11 years ago when I first got started, people were perceptive and receptive.
	But nothing, I mean, it's light years now.
	Yeah.
	I mean, there's almost a danger to that, though, because people are so ready to, you know, I'm wondering two weeks after the London bombing, is it a government operation?
	And then mainstream newspapers are saying it.
	But I'm also seeing the discernment go up.
	People are also getting very discriminating, very selective.
	They're seeing through disinfo operations very quickly, which is very encouraging.
	It is encouraging.
	And I think, you know, it's sort of the hundred monkey theory.
	You know that one?
	There's a larger collective unconsciousness that we're all keen into.
	And once that happens, then, you know, they can make all the threats they want.
	They can do all the sort of power grabs and pass all this legislation that turns it into a police state.
	I still believe that the larger consciousness, the publicist, will break through.
	Oh, I agree.
	Let's talk more about that.
	Because what did Gandhi say?
	First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you, then you win.
	But the movement will win.
	I just wonder if I can survive the attack.
	We'll be right back.
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	All right, we've got about 52 minutes left in this broadcast, and Dean Haglund, who, again, was the star of the X-Files, one of the main stars on the show, for nine seasons, ten years, and, of course, the lone gunman pilot, and then one season, which, by the way, I did buy on DVD.
	Oh, you did?
	Do you have it here?
	No, no, it's actually at the house.
	I don't watch much TV, but I'll selectively watch stuff on the DVD player while I'm on the treadmill or the exercise bike so I don't turn into the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man.
	I was going to say, you're looking more trim than last year.
	Oh, God.
	I just got fatter and fatter.
	Well, I was just working all the time, so I'm making myself work out a couple hours a day when I can.
	But side issues, side issues, that's where I'm watching the entire season, which I thought was better than the X-Files, personally.
	Thank you very much.
	Yeah, the writers did, too, and they wanted to...
	You know, bring up a lot more of the less the ghost stories and the poo monsters that they had in the X-Files and go more into the conspiracy, but with the comedic edge, you know, as a way of getting some of these serious things across, but in a lighthearted tone.
	You know, Coast to Coast AM, second biggest radio show in the country, it's shifted a lot out of the ghost stories and stuff into more of the New World Order stuff.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	And the writers were trying to take that show in that direction in an entertaining fashion in a way of bringing these ideas into the public forum.
	Is that because that's what the fans and the public wanted, or is that because that's what you guys wanted?
	I think it was a combination.
	You know, the popularity of the gunman had a large conspiracy contingent to it, and so they were going after that fan base and less from the shippers and the, you know, who loved Mulder and who loved Scully kind of thing.
	A year ago or so, you were in town visiting friends, and we hooked up, and I had you on the radio, and also interviewed you for the TV show, which I really appreciate, and of course you're traveling the country making a documentary.
	Yeah.
	You're also working on some movie things right now, so we're honored to have you here with us.
	But I want to just rehash, maybe get some more comments on it now.
	Your pilot episode, tell us about that plot.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	This was a pilot episode for the lone gunman, where the basic plot was the gunman had to stop a plane from flying into the World Trade Center eight months before it actually happened.
	So, when we got the script, it said, you know, plane, World Trade Center, they filmed an entire airplane, they had a green matte screen, so they put the shot of the New York skyline in with the plane flying directly at it, and just seconds before, we get computer control, we get it back to the pilots, and the pilots can pull the plane up and avoid hitting the World Trade Center.
	And part of that plot was that, as it said in the script, that this was to start an international war on terror.
	That this was, you know, the Cold War's over, and that for the arms race to continue and keep the economy going, that they would start an international war on terror by flying the plane into the World Trade Center.
	In fact, I want to play that clip from The Lone Gunman right now.
	Go ahead and roll that clip where they're describing why this terrorist event is going to take place.
	You have kind of the boss of the conspiracy theorists talking to his father who's in the government.
	Right.
	And so they're talking.
	Go ahead and roll that.
	We know it's a war game scenario.
	It has to do with airline counterterrorism.
	Why is it important enough to kill for?
	Because it's no longer a game.
	If some terrorist group wants to act out this scenario, why target you for assassination?
	Depends on who your terrorists are.
	The men who conceived of it in the first place.
	You're saying our government plans to commit a terrorist act against a domestic heirloom?
	There you go.
	Dating the entire government, as usual.
	It's a faction.
	A small faction for what possible gains?
	The Cold War's over, John.
	But with no clear enemy to stockpile against, the arms market's flat.
	But bring down a fully loaded 727 into the middle of New York City, and you'll find a dozen tin-pot dictators all over the world just clamoring to take responsibility and begging to be smart-bombed.
	I can't believe it.
	This is about increasing our sales.
	When?
	Tonight.
	How are you going to stop them?
	That's what it looks like.
	Remote access.
	Somebody on the ground is flying your plane.
	That's me.
	That's right.
	I'm mapping the data now.
	Yeah, he's on the plane, we're on the ground, on the cell phone, on the phone for the plane, communicating.
	You know, I actually bought the DVDs of this.
	This is just ripped off the web, so the audio isn't the best.
	Here it is.
	Corner of Liberty and Washington, Florida, Manhattan.
	I'm going to crash the plane into the World Trade Center.
	I'll sell the flight.
	All right.
	Now, we shot that in March of 2000.
	So that script was written probably around January, January, February 2000.
	And then that aired, that would have been September, I think, or maybe even January 2001.
	Because it was a mid-season replacement and then September 2001 it happened.
	And I didn't even put it together.
	It was the writers who actually called me in the afternoon going, are you watching this?
	One of the writers from the X-Files was calling me.
	You'd been fixing your sink, right?
	You remember that.
	Exactly.
	Yeah, my sink went.
	I was at Home Depot.
	I had other issues than watching TV all day.
	And then suddenly it all gelled together all at once.
	That's kind of good that you were so unplugged from mainstream media that you didn't even know it was happening.
	Well, I heard about it.
	I knew it right when it happened.
	Well, sure, so they called you.
	But you hadn't gotten all the details, I understand.
	Yeah, it was really amazing.
	Yeah.
	And it was a great day to go to Home Depot that day, by the way.
	I should point that out.
	Nobody was there.
	Nobody was there, and everybody was really helpful.
	So Chris Carter called you up.
	Yeah, it was actually Vince, Vince Gilligan, who called me up and said, are you watching that?
	Because Vince was...
	He was the real spearhead for getting the gunman to the air.
	Chris Carter and everybody were involved in writing it, but they were also involved with trying to save Season 8 at the X-Files and bring that show to a close somehow.
	So the focus was split.
	The writers were writing Lone Gunman episodes and writing X-Files episodes at the same time.
	I actually saw news articles where Ashcroft went to Hollywood right after 9-11 and said, no more bad stories on us.
	We want you to work with us.
	And then I remember hearing in a news article that Fox didn't like the government because it was anti-government.
	And then I remember seeing that you guys had gotten good ratings and it was a very popular series.
	Why cancel a winner?
	Yeah, well, you know, there's a series of reasons, including I wrote a comic book called Why the Lone Gunman Was Cancelled, because it's such an involved story that involves not just, you know, bad ratings, I'll get off the air.
	The ratings were good.
	The show was fairly, you know, inexpensive.
	We were shooting up in Vancouver, so it wasn't about cost.
	Chris Carter and Fox at this point started having a bad relationship, so that may have played into it.
	But yeah, there may have been a larger... Well, just a microcosm of that.
	I mean, I've been on local radio, and number one show at night, against everything, making the station tons of money, and they just said, stop talking about the government, or you're fired.
	And I didn't shut up, and they fired me.
	So they had people lean on them.
	That's just at a local level.
	Now it's come out about...
	Hundreds and hundreds, and I'm telling you, thousands of reporters on government payrolls, not just in Iraq with fake news, but fake news here.
	Fake news here.
	And not only that, Chris Carter tells a story, and I met the psychic who was hired by the CIA just to hang out at Hollywood parties.
	And then go back and drop emails about what she talked about.
	And this was the CIA keeping tabs on producers and writers of Hollywood movies because that's the... Because the psychic with them is like their psychologist.
	These people spill their guts.
	They spill their guts.
	And she went up to Chris Carter, who was at a party, way in the back.
	She said, whatever you're working on is going to make you millions of dollars.
	And this was before he had launched the X-Files.
	And he actually told that same story.
	Also, you guys talked about the CIA, NASA, others planting ideas and scripts.
	I mean, come on.
	This is exactly what happened on 9-11.
	There is a government drill, actually five drills going on, flying planes into the very buildings.
	Now that's USA Today, folks.
	We told you that from our sources two and a half years before it was in USA Today.
	Now it's admitted.
	Okay.
	But we have this from our sources.
	Now it's admitted they have this drill.
	In the lone government pilot episode, this criminal group of the government is going to use a drill to make the rest of the government stand down, and they're going to fly it into there to attack Afghanistan, to smart bomb the ten-horned dictators.
	I mean, you cannot...
	I know.
	And then to say, oh, we had no indication that this would ever happen.
	This was like the government's position.
	There was no information that this would happen.
	It was everywhere.
	It was in your popular media.
	It's in your books.
	Specifically, were you able to talk to Chris Carter and others?
	I mean, was that storyline planted on them?
	Where did they get that?
	They said they got it from a Tom Clancy novel.
	Which it's admitted that Tom does get that from the intelligence agency.
	So it probably was then second or third hand.
	There's a drill to make everybody stand out, but his book doesn't do that.
	That part was added.
	I mean, I'll tell you...
	The mathematical chance of that happening.
	But then what about the New York Lottery coming up 9-1-1?
	On 9-1-1 the year after?
	What about the Chicago Mercantile coming up 9-1-1 with a bunch of zeros after?
	I mean, that was like one out of 14 billion.
	Yeah, what are the odds of that?
	And how does that work?
	And this thing goes back to a collective unconscious idea that, you know, there is a larger subconscious idea going on that then influences our reality around us.
	We know from what's even declassified, they're trying to actually program that through, and I know that we need to see symbols to somehow control that collective unconscious that they're trying to program with these subliminals.
	Yeah, well, and I don't know how much that works, because it'll go in both directions, and show you and others and, you know, everybody doing this kind of work sort of will, you know, make a groundswell going the other way.
	Dean, I want to go to break, and I want to come back and find out what you think of the torture.
	I have no idea what your views are.
	What do you think of the Pentagon domestic surveillance in America?
	These announcements that federal troops are going to march around on our street corners now?
	I just heard that.
	Shake us down.
	I want to... Homeland Security, quote, fight terrorists and drugs or terrorism.
	So we have to have neighborhood groups with the military watching us.
	I want to get your views on all of this, but then it's okay, because Don King says George Bush is good.
	Right, and I get all my moral upbringing from Doug King.
	A convicted murderer.
	Yeah, exactly.
	I hadn't heard that one, actually.
	Yeah, it's new.
	And of course, all over the country, a rash of students getting expelled and suspended for removing the cameras in the potty.
	Oh.
	That's our big brother helping us.
	Wow, I didn't know there were cameras in the potty.
	Oh yeah, that's how they keep us safe.
	I went to a hip bar in London and they broadcast the camera in the men's room into the ladies' room.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	It's very hip.
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	Dean, there's a lot of different issues that you want to get into and I want to cover them.
	But...
	What's happening with the Patriot Act?
	What's happening with all this stuff about, you know, overt troops on the streets and gun confiscations in New Orleans and just all of it, and then congressmen caught with hundreds of millions of dollars in stolen defense funds.
	You talk about people waking up.
	What about inside the Hollywood structure?
	Are people starting to wake up there?
	They are, but again, you know, Hollywood does run on fear.
	So everybody, you know, if you want to do a military script,
	It has to be pro-military, or else you don't get the Pentagon giving you the tanks or the information, and you don't get a consultant, so your information looks way off.
	Oh, I've seen that.
	And they'll refuse something that's 98% pro-military.
	It's got to be Cracker Jack corny worship.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And I have friends who have written scripts that were anti-war, anti-military.
	And their agents, their agents just say, you know what?
	It's a great script.
	I'm sure it'd be fabulous.
	We're not going to do it.
	Because we know that it's going to be blocked.
	We're not going to get funding.
	You know, these movies cost $20, $60 million to make.
	That money doesn't come from some guy down the street out of his, you know, checkbook.
	These come from...
	Huge venture capitalists that have huge corporate interests.
	Well, Carlyle Group is buying into... They just bought one of the biggest theater chains in the country.
	They're trying to buy Columbia.
	They're buying TV stations.
	That's right, and yet there's this independent film thing, like John Greenwald doing Outfoxed and The High Cost of Low Prices, the story of Walmart.
	He's doing these really independent documentaries that are huge hits.
	But they're being distributed through channels like straight to DVD.
	You've got DVD and theatrical at the same time, which is rare.
	Normally you show it in the theaters.
	And that's good because you've got an audience, and that audience for alternative stuff is growing.
	You were telling me about a Hollywood 9-11 nexus point with this Alex Lightman.
	Yeah, he's writing a book about the connection between Al-Qaeda and Hollywood.
	And apparently, now I don't know if this is true, but this is what he told me at DragonCon or at San Diego Comic-Con last year, is that the senior officials call themselves Al-Qaeda based on the translation of the Isaac Asimov book called The Club or The Group.
	Do you know this?
	Yeah, and that the Al-Qaeda seniors are very much into science fiction.
	Yes.
	And they had three or four different plans going on, and their watching of the lone gunman was the one that made them go into the, you know, they were tied to the government to go and launch a plane strike into the World Trade Center.
	Now, I don't know if that's true.
	So he's saying he's getting this information.
	So you guys making the film made them do that?
	That's what he said.
	But then, at the same time, the government would have had to watch and have drills, too, just for Al-Qaeda.
	But he's saying that Al-Qaeda is working with the government already, that they were funded and all of that.
	I've got to interview him.
	So who is Alex Lightman?
	I've got his business card.
	Alex Lightman.
	I'll give it to you.
	I'll give it to you in email.
	He's an author, and he's been working on getting in the high-level Al-Qaeda rep's
	For, he said, five or six years now, on the connection between that and Hollywood.
	Well, I know this.
	A lot of so-called Arab or...
	Or Central Asian terrorist leaders are government agents.
	It's more like global corporations fund them.
	Then they go out and recruit 18-year-old kids that come from a dirt-poor place and are devout Muslims and tell them, you're going to fight a big jihad, you're going to go do this.
	And they activate them to carry out bombings in Israel right when there's about to be a peace deal that the Likudniks don't want.
	Exactly.
	And then it's even been in the Jerusalem Post and other papers and UPI reported on it that they go grab these 14-year-old kids that are throwing rocks.
	Ten years later, they'll release them after torture, brainwashing, as their boys.
	And then they caught them, quote, Al-Qaeda squads that are Mossad Arabs that are controlled.
	Right.
	And so, all again, this comes from a larger corporate structure.
	It's about the money more than...
	You know, I don't know.
	Like you said, it's an illusion of left and right and all those sorts of things.
	So we need to get people to reach out in these Arab ghettos and Palestinian ghettos.
	And I know that actually they are waking up there that suicide bombing is not good.
	And most of the time it's got strings attached to it.
	Absolutely.
	And as you said, they are waking up.
	And I see that everywhere I travel.
	I was in Europe extensively over this last...
	Three or four months.
	But that was fun.
	That was a lot of fun.
	Though my hard drive crashed in Holland, so I just want to say I lost pretty much that whole documentary that we were shooting.
	I have the original footage, but I had cut it to about an hour and a half.
	It was just on my hard drive.
	Oh, man, you've got to back that up.
	I've got to back that up.
	I did a backup five months earlier, and I...
	You know, I knew erotically, and I mean, not that I'm some big filmmaker, but I knew erotically, we upgrade and back up every day, and we're hitting auto-save after every execution.
	Ah, see?
	Now that's the kind of discipline I should learn from you guys.
	Well, actually, I did stuff like you've done.
	You have?
	Well, take Dark Secrets Inside Bohemian Grove.
	That was five years ago, back on a three-quarter-inch tape machine.
	Yeah, that's right.
	Ate the whole tape.
	I had to start over again.
	Yeah, that was you talking about pulling your hair out.
	Oh, my God.
	See, lessons that you learn.
	Yeah, lessons that you learn.
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	We're talking here today with Dean Hagelin.
	We're about to go to your calls.
	Alan and Elizabeth and Larry and Joseph in England.
	I want to go to Alan because he's been holding for a long time.
	And then we'll go to Joseph in England after that because he's on his own dime.
	Joining us from the United Kingdom.
	But, Dean Hagelin, tell us about your website.
	Oh, my website, DeanHagelin.com.
	It's all the information.
	In fact, I think I have last year's show still there.
	That's right.
	You've got an archive right there.
	I saw that.
	I was flattered.
	That's right.
	And then there's a link to my new invention, the Chill Pack.
	What's not that new now?
	Which is smart and simple.
	You know, I gave my dad the chill pack you gave me last time.
	And he uses it on his little laptop.
	And computers compute faster, don't they, with this?
	That's right.
	Yeah, the secret they don't tell you is that the heat actually affects performance and also warps your hard drive.
	So what this is is a completely freezable mat that you just throw in the freezer, whip it under the laptop.
	It's got a condensation-proof material around it so no moisture develops.
	Drops the temperature by at least 70, 80 degrees.
	How long does it stay frozen, or how long does it cool your computer significantly?
	Well, here's the thing.
	It cools it significantly, about one to four hours, depending on the computer and how many programs you're running, what kind of processing you're doing.
	But I keep mine just at room temperature, and it continues to draw the heat away from the CPU into the gel that's inside that... Oh, exactly, because I've noticed laptops get hot.
	They get really hot.
	In fact, that's why they call them notebooks now, because they don't want you putting them on your laps...
	Because there's three lawsuits out there of a guy suing the Apple and other computers.
	Oh, sterility.
	Yeah, not just sterility, but they're actually getting blisters on the tip of their penis.
	But I don't know why they have their... That's another story that I don't want to hear about in court.
	But apparently they are suing for actual blisters.
	You know, I actually heard something about laptop suits.
	Yeah.
	Are they putting off radiation like cell phones?
	No, no, it's the heat... Yeah, it's the New England Journal said if you're using the laptop, don't put it in your lap or you'll never have kids.
	And...
	And so, you know, my... So now they're calling it... Notebooks.
	They just call them computer notebooks instead of computer laptops because they're trying to get you away from using it on your lap.
	Well, I never do that anyway because it's hard to look down on your lap and do it.
	Yeah, but the Chill Pack you can put under the table.
	This is your invention.
	Yes, patent it, the whole thing.
	Go to chillpack.com, spelled P-A-K.
	Order yours now.
	We can have it shipped out by Christmas.
	Well, thank you for my chill pack.
	Yes, Merry Christmas, Alex.
	I will give this as a gift, because I don't travel around with my laptop as much.
	I always put them on a table, but I might start carrying this, because I've noticed that laptops sometimes are real slow, sometimes they're real fast, and so you're saying that's the heat.
	That's the heat.
	Well, in the old days, I heard about how the government, like the NSA in places, would keep things real cold.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, they would refrigerate the room.
	And the fact is, the cooling fans on a lot of the laptops are so small now that they don't actually cool anything.
	Plus, the engineers at Apple got drunk.
	We're good to go.
	So it's already 85 degrees or so.
	Or yeah, if you're in Hollywood and it's 110 by the pool, and you're right, you're just making a convection oven on your processor, which isn't helping at all.
	And in fact, it will warp your hard drive, which is why towards the end of your life of your computer, it's completely useless.
	Because their heads warped off the actual disc.
	Well, that is something we all need.
	Maybe I can become a distributor of the chill pack.
	Absolutely, Alex.
	I would appreciate that.
	Like truckloads of them pulling up here at the office.
	Yeah, and you can use it on your table, too.
	If you just write on your table, it acts as a buffer so it's not a blanket, so it's not reflecting heat back and forth between the surface of the table and the bottom of the CPU.
	That chill pack will allow the heat just to go into that gel and dissipate.
	So even without putting it in the refrigerator at work?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Not as effectively, of course.
	It doesn't cool it to, like, you know, 70, 80 degrees.
	How much faster does it go when you do that?
	Well, we're finding our benchmark tests.
	I'm getting, you know, feedback from people, but it's up to...
	We got two computers that ran 110% faster.
	Wow!
	Yeah, twice as fast.
	Now, we don't know if that's an anomaly or... At least they're packing my G5s and they're in ice.
	Exactly, exactly, that kind of thing.
	Though the moisture would probably blow the whole thing up.
	But I have a friend who does sim, you know, the sim characters where you simulate social interaction.
	She was running her desktop and her laptop, and she had to turn down all the details on her laptop because it was running so hot, and combining it with the desktop so that she could play online.
	Once she had the Chill Pack, she unplugged the desktop, turned the details up on her laptop, and just does the laptop to play online.
	That's awesome.
	Let's take some phone calls.
	Alan, you're up first.
	Where are you calling us from today?
	Very interesting show.
	I'm calling from Wisconsin.
	Welcome, sir.
	Go ahead.
	Yesterday on the Jerry Brownfield Show, the Genesis Curies, he had the opportunity to have a reporter call in that was in Washington interviewing a meeting between Bush, our so-called Christian Bush, with the other people involved in the meeting regarding the Patriot Bill.
	He was trying to get him to pass it.
	And what come about was, Mr. Jones, was the fact that he, quote, Bush...
	Definitely used God's name in vain.
	So you're telling me that now we have confirmed, which his stuff's always confirmed, he was able to have a reporter on who was in that meeting and heard, it was a big congressional meeting, a lot of people were in there.
	Absolutely.
	This saying, don't give me the G.D.
	Constitution, it's just a piece of paper.
	The point is, saying G.D.
	is one thing, and I'm not defending it, but everybody's focusing on the G.D.
	It's that he's saying G.D.
	about the Constitution.
	He used God's name in vain, not just G.D.
	He said, I'm going to say it, but I shouldn't.
	Goddamn Constitution is nothing more than a piece of paper.
	But the point I'm trying to make is, everyone's focusing in.
	I heard neocons defending him going, well, he's a Christian.
	A lot of Christians say G.D.
	The point is, he's saying G.D.
	about the Constitution.
	He's saying he doesn't like it.
	That's the really big thing.
	And he... Did the reporter say who they were?
	Yeah, I copied the show on a video.
	Not a video, but... No, we've got it in the archives.
	What time in the show was that?
	That comes on before you.
	No, no, no.
	During the hour, think back into your brain.
	What time during the hour was this said during Brownfield's show?
	Well, he brought this out right away.
	Right from the beginning.
	Hold on.
	There he didn't have the reporter on.
	No, he's got... The reporter gave Jerry Brownfield all the... See, what he did was he asked... Excuse me.
	He asked the aide that asked the question, well, isn't that... I've been covering the story since last week.
	I understand that.
	I'm saying... Am I misunderstanding you?
	Did Jerry Brownfield have a reporter on who was there at the meeting?
	Yeah, he was there.
	He was there at the meeting.
	Okay, that reporter.
	Great, sir.
	What time during the show did he have this reporter on as a guest?
	Oh, it wasn't on his show.
	Yeah, that's what I thought.
	Listen, thank you for the call.
	I appreciate it.
	Yeah, Alan, we've covered this over and over again.
	And what Mr. Thompson gets over Capitol Hill Blues always turned out to be very accurate.
	Yeah.
	And it just, I mean, he was the one that reported on Bush throwing temper tantrums, and two years later it was in New York Daily News.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And so, you know, I always think Bush is so stupid, I don't know how much of this is his own doing.
	You know, he's uneducated in the best of senses.
	And so...
	When I hear all of these things, you know, of him doing this and him manipulating that, I think he's just a puppet towards, you know, the larger corporation that's under him doing this.
	He's like a pony with the Pony Express.
	They ride that pony, he gets tired.
	Back before the telegraph, folks, they just jump on the next pony, ride to the, you know, a post rider.
	Yeah.
	Just riding him from post to post.
	And we all get focused on the pony all day, and it's hemming and it's hawing, and it's doing its business on the front porch.
	But really, it's just a pony.
	That's right.
	Whipping boy for the larger corporations.
	Let's talk to Elizabeth in Maryland.
	Thanks for the call, Alan.
	Go ahead, Elizabeth.
	I want to again... Thank you, Dean.
	I want to again commend you for your unflinching guts in bringing out the Franklin cover-up and the DynCorp business with the women and the children.
	And as you know, you changed my entire life.
	You put me into broadcasting because on June 2, 2003, I turned you on for the first time and you were telling about what the elite did with the children.
	And I couldn't tolerate this.
	And I believe that millions of people, your listeners, will keep the hedge of prayer around you.
	And I ask for that right now, because as Colonel Craig Roberts said, his grandfather told him down in the Ozarks before he went to Vietnam, son, you don't need to worry.
	You won't be taken home before the Lord is ready.
	And Alex, I just tell you, keep up the great work you're doing.
	Well, I appreciate that.
	No, I mean, you know, the Computer Science Corporation bought DynCorp, but I know DynCorp is upset.
	By the things that we've said about them, but I mean, I'm reading it out of the BBC.
	So, I don't know, I mean, I understand that they need to be ashamed of what, I mean, more than ashamed, this is just pit of hell behavior.
	And Alex, I don't think they should be so stupid as to think to eliminate you will do anything, they'll just make you a martyr, because the groundswell is moving, many, many more yuppies, many, many more truck drivers across this country know they're learning each day, so I just commend you and thank you very much.
	Well, thank you.
	I mean, I just hope cops driving by the CSC building know what they're driving past.
	I mean, they're driving past, you know, literally where ringwraiths dwell.
	CSC, what did they actually put up?
	Computer Science Corporation is this big data mining, huge data relay, data storage company.
	And I'm not saying CSC is bad.
	They bought DynCorp.
	I see.
	And DynCorp is the what?
	Yeah, at least a few years ago they bought them.
	And then I heard that some people in CSC from two different sources were saying, we've got to do something to Alex Jones, we've got to shut him down, bring him down.
	I thought they meant technical, because they're technical.
	I figured it was just a little group saying that.
	Then I get it from another source without me even saying anything about it.
	And then I go, wait a minute, I forgot that they bought DynCorp.
	So I can't blame them.
	I'm saying that DynCorp is a division of that.
	DynCorp did this before CSC bought them.
	Is that why your server goes out for five minutes on your show?
	No, no, that's because we're stupid.
	We're so damn popular as well.
	That's because we're dumb.
	No, it is.
	It's hard to serve the numbers of people that want to tune into the show.
	That's why we've added more backup streams at InfoWars.com that are secondary.
	Let's talk to Larry in North Carolina.
	Larry, you're on the air.
	Hello, Dean and Alex.
	Go ahead.
	Yes, sir.
	I was wondering, you know how the government does things.
	What would happen if our government told Saddam Hussein
	Now, we're going to listen to your sentence if you want to make supervised radio broadcast to the insurgents in Iraq and tell them to lay down their weapons.
	They'd probably listen to him.
	Hmm.
	Well, but they've got to get rid of Saddam because he knows where all the bodies are buried.
	I mean, in 1958, it's admitted, he was a CIA assassin.
	They trained him in Egypt for two years.
	They put him in as the head of Baathist security in 1969.
	They got him in as the head of Baathist in 1979.
	They funded him $30-plus billion to attack the Iranians and then told him, go ahead and invade Iran.
	Go wait.
	Yeah.
	April Gillespie.
	So it's a sick joke.
	They were knocked over because they were a strong, secular country at first world status with 60% of their graduates being women.
	The majority of their doctors graduating were women.
	They were a free country with Christians and Jews living in peace.
	And that can't be allowed.
	And now there's an Islamic jihad regime in there and the government's happy.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	You guys have a good one.
	Thank you.
	You too.
	I appreciate it.
	Dean, I want to get your comments on the war.
	Yeah.
	You know, it's actually fascinating.
	I've been doing a couple of script works, and now there's another theory about the war, which I don't know if you know about the portal, the gate of fire, the Ishtar Gate in Babylon.
	Well, there's a lot of people that are saying that the elites want all those antiquities and that there's some superstition
	We're good to go.
	They did want to go in there to get goodies.
	Yeah, and that there's pictures of the U.S.
	Marines actually prying open the doors to the museum in Baghdad to loot the museum, and particularly to go downstairs to the vaults that had the Sumerian text.
	No, no, that's admitted, yes.
	Yeah, and that Sumerian text.
	Well, actually, I mean, as you, I'm sure you're about to say this, but I have to be very obnoxious.
	That's my trademark.
	No, seriously, the Rosetta Stones, it's how to decode the texts.
	It's how to decode the text, and that text has the thing about Giglamesh, which is the oldest tale known to man, predating Noah's flood, and that explains that whoever has this information has unlimited knowledge and unlimited power.
	And that there's apparently a portal that opens up to another dimension that coincides with the planet that comes through our solar system every 10,500 years.
	So that this then is a precept of why we ran into Iraq in March 2003 to get into this portal to stop this internet.
	Well, I just think it's a goodie on the side.
	You know, while Hitler's helping Mussolini in North Africa, why not run around with a few divisions and try to dig up goodies?
	See?
	I mean, it's admitted Hitler thought he'd get power off this, so regardless, they do believe that.
	But it's about weapons sales, oil, domestic diversion, as he told his biographer.
	But certainly, our government did, and they disappeared, did loot that stuff.
	And there's three things.
	Jordan Maxwell pointed out that there's three items that will sort of indicate that our U.S.
	government believes this.
	And one is that the goddess that guards this portal gate, there's Jehovah, Jawa on the right, the male entity.
	The female entity is Shakti or Shakana, which is why the bombing campaign in Baghdad was called Shock and Awe.
	Oh, yeah.
	So that this was an indication that this female entity that we represent will be coming in and blocking you from entering this gate.
	The other one is that Saddam Hussein thought he was the reincarnation of King Nebuchadnezzar.
	Which he did think.
	Which he did think.
	The only tribe King Nebuchadnezzar didn't enslave during his reign were the Moabs.
	And what did we name the 21,000-pound bomb that we tested in Florida for everyone to see?
	Moabs.
	Moabs.
	Mother of all bombs.
	We are the tribe you can't enslave.
	And then on top of that, if you look at the USA Today, like I can't listen to Bush speak, it just drives me nuts, but I read his speeches, and USA Today had his speech from the RNC in New York City, his acceptance speech, and his opening sentence is, I am answering to a power from beyond the stars.
	Now everyone thought that was a reference to God, but born-agains don't refer to a God from beyond the stars.
	He's referring to a power from beyond the surface.
	Well, listen, when you listen to all his speeches, Dean, it's all a cult.
	It's all some bizarre cult.
	Yeah, that speech he gave, again, folks, we're not saying there's really stargates, at least I'm not.
	No, they really do believe in this.
	I mean, that Bohemian Grove with all this ritualized stuff, people say, well, it looks like theater.
	That's where theater comes from, is ritual.
	Absolutely.
	And they're there, and they believe they're opening this membrane, and then they address the owl as a female, then as a male, and they're trying to basically do a black magic ritual, like Faust trying to cheat the devil, and they even have some quotes in there out of Faust.
	Remember, care is the thing in the box that he can't get to, and they're trying to kill care?
	Well, they are killing it here.
	They are taking all their bad vibes, all their bad whatever you want to call it, reap what you sow karma, and they're trying to dump it into this dimension.
	It's very sophisticated black magic.
	Very sophisticated.
	And shocking that it's in such a global... Take it to a global level.
	They're nuts.
	I mean, I know this.
	I mean, stuff that's 101.
	Nancy Reagan.
	Nancy Reagan, her husband, down to the second he gave a speech, what colors he wore was astrology.
	Exactly.
	Signing the peace, the Russian accord at 3.03 p.m.
	Exactly.
	All of that sort of thing.
	She had that psychic, he was an astrologer, worked for the government.
	That was all they consulted.
	So that's public, folks.
	And so so many atheists, people go, I don't want to look at this.
	I don't believe in that.
	It doesn't matter if you don't believe in it.
	They do.
	That's right.
	That's why they put their symbols everywhere.
	That's why they think they're getting power off of it.
	Final segment.
	Boy, this went by fast.
	We'll come back and talk to Joseph in England who's been holding patiently.
	Stay with us with Dean Hagelin.
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	Dean Haglund's a nice guy.
	I'm glad he pops by.
	Dean, I want to take a final call from England.
	We've got a lot of other callers we don't have time to get to.
	I apologize.
	We'll take you back in again.
	Maybe another year you'll, like a planet, rotate back through, orbiting us, or we're orbiting you over there in Hollywood.
	You've got some projects you're working on.
	One of them is not the lone gunman, but it's some of the people that you worked with on that.
	It is like a conspiracy investigation.
	Like a political thriller using the three actors, Tom and Bruce Harwood.
	Yeah, so we'll be shooting that this year.
	And also I wrote a script about Dr. Royal Raymond Rife.
	Who found the cure for cancer in 1935 with the right machine and refused to sell to the AMA and then his lab was blown up twice and his assistant poisoned.
	He was sued for the rest of his life in San Diego until 1971 when he died.
	So that script's coming out too.
	Well, you know, it's like the end of Indiana Jones and Raiders of the Lost Ark.
	There's that warehouse just full of secrets.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And they just put it in the back and so this is one of those secrets that have come to the fore.
	And you're working on a lot of other stuff, and we're always just thankful to have you here with us, here for your second voyage.
	Joseph in England, thanks for holding.
	Go ahead, you're on the air.
	Hi, Alex.
	I've just got a question for Dean.
	In respect of your comments earlier regarding the pro-government themes which we see more prevalent in modern TV shows, is there a chance of having a series crossover where the lone gunman might pop up in a future series of 24?
	Is that a long shot?
	That's not that long a shot, actually.
	A lot of the producers, including Howard Gordon and some of the others who used to work on the X-Files, now work on 24.
	However, our characters were killed off in season 8, 9 of the X-Files?
	I think season 9.
	They killed us off, but you never saw our bodies in the coffin, so technically we are not available for crossover due to the fact that our characters were killed off.
	That being said, that still has to be an agreement between Fox and Chris Carter.
	There's talk of an X-Files 2 movie coming out.
	Again, licensing and the larger machinations of how Fox works requires all these contracts to be in place.
	Yeah, if it's not anti-family, anti-America, anti-gun, Fox won't put it on nowadays because they're so conservative.
	You know, it's not Pleasure Island, can your husband stop from having sex with a porn star?
	That's right.
	It's so Christian.
	Oh, thank God for Fox.
	Anything else there from England?
	Real quick.
	Yeah, just quickly, I mean, I've seen, you know, most episodes of A Longer Man, and I'm not surprised it actually got cancelled, because it was actually a good show, and it covered real, real issues, even though it was a, you know, comedic tone.
	Thank you very much, yeah.
	No, I mean, X-Files certainly grew, and then with Lone Gunman, it was a serious show.
	I mean, I never watched TV, and I actually watched some of the episodes.
	I was like, wow, this is good.
	And now I have it on DVD, which is still in stores.
	Still in stores.
	You can get it at Amazon.com for sure.
	It just came back out.
	All right.
	Well, Dean Hagelin, we're almost out of time here.
	DeanHagelin.com.
	And we've got links to your websites over at InfoWars.com.
	Feel free to post this stuff on the Internet.
	Absolutely.
	And you've been videotaping.
	We've been videotaping.
	We're going to put it up on the website.
	Absolutely.
	I'm going to cut this into the documentary that still continues.
	I'm going to start recutting it.
	I can't wait to see that, and I'm sorry to hear you lost it on your machine.
	Well, you know, it's part of the process, I guess.
	Lessons to back up every day like you guys do.
	Do you think we're going to see the military-industrial complex carry out more terror attacks here in the U.S.?
	I don't know.
	I think that they just need the one to then fuel their larger greedy plans, so I don't know how many more they have to do.
	And then I guess just keep... All these terror drills are the same thing.
	It creates the same perception of that we're under terror attack.
	Level red, you know, level orange, just creates the fear that's necessary to have them do whatever they have to do.
	But roving teams of people shaking us down is not going to keep us safe.
	Absolutely not.
	What keeps us safe is all of us coming together and, you know, seeing past the illusion.
	I think the first thing you said at the start of the show was evergreen.
	They're doing all this because they know they're in trouble.
	Right.
	Their system is falling apart.
	There is a paradigm shift.
	And so right as they hit the big time, right as they get their world empire, it's already collapsing as they finish their penultimate goal.
	Exactly.
	It begins imploding.
	And that's why they start doing more and more drastic measures as it all comes along.
	Dean Hagelin, thank you for joining us.
	A joy as always.
	Take care.
	God bless you all.
	See you back tomorrow.
	Hello!