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Big Brother.
Mainstream media.
Government cover-ups.
You want answers?
Well, so does he.
He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
Hello, ladies and gentlemen.
It's already Thursday, the third day of March 2005.
We'll be live for the next three hours.
That Globe and Mail reporter who wrote the story about Hunter S. Thompson reportedly telling him that he was planning to put out a book...
Concerning government involvement in 9-11, he has confirmed that he did talk to Hunter S. Thompson, that he was friends with him, that Hunter S. Thompson was talking about such things.
But he goes on to say maybe it was a suicide.
So we'll be talking to that gentleman coming up in the next hour.
I want to take your calls.
In fact, I want to take a bunch of your calls in this first hour.
And sometimes I do a good job of this, other times I don't, but I'm going to control myself today.
I am going to come back after this quick break, cover just some of the news, some of the important news, some of the interesting news, and then we're going to go straight to your phone calls.
But I'm going to give each caller about a minute, and then I'll comment for about 30 seconds.
I'm going to control myself.
Or if you have a question, I will limit myself to about a minute.
We'll move to the next person because so many people have tried countless times to get into this broadcast and they have been unsuccessful.
So here is the toll-free number to get involved on air.
Kind of open line Thursday here.
Whatever issue you'd like to discuss, zero censorship will get you up and on the air.
A true rarity here.
1-800-259-9231, 1-800-259-9231, and we'll get you up and on the air.
Some good news, California's spy chip ID card ban.
Just like four states, now about to be five states, and hundreds of cities have thrown out the Patriot Act,
Now a bill's been introduced in California.
Lord Schwarzenegger will try to block it, don't worry.
He banned the state putting the spy chips in the driver's license through the federal law that has passed the House and is now in the Senate of the United States Congress.
Of course, they passed the basic national ID card law last year, but now they're trying to radically expand it.
We'll tell you about that.
North Korea makes missile test threat.
Interesting article about what the vaccines are doing to the children.
Several articles on this that we'll be going over.
And teen trackers, cell phones used to track teens.
Every day I see an article promoting how cell phones track children and teens and how good it is.
Folks, all cell phones are tracked.
You can go to websites...
And enter somebody's phone number, if you have it, and then on a grid it'll show you where they are at all times.
By law, all cell phones have this.
But see, they introduce it as if it's for the children.
They're not telling you about it in the news.
Oh, it's for the children.
It's for you, too.
So I'll tell you about the plans and what it's going to be like under this.
Also, ABC News, robots to watch children showcased.
And the Pentagon announced two weeks ago $70-plus billion a year for robotic armies, ground-based and air-based systems that can be controlled by a tiny elite, which is exactly what the globalists have always been after.
That's just some of the news that is coming up, ladies and gentlemen.
Please stay with us.
And again, we've got that guest.
He's one of the last people to talk to under S. Thompson.
Coming on the broadcast.
Stay with us.
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He's the T-Rex of political talk.
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We're going to have wide open phones throughout the broadcast today on this live Thursday edition.
By the way, I've had a lot of requests for it, so tomorrow I'm going to re-air that interview we did with the scholar, the professor, out of Canada, studying all of the occult symbolism in the government buildings there, especially one of their legislature's capitals.
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I sound a little strange today.
I guess I push myself too hard.
When I woke up this morning after a delicious four-hour sleep, it feels like somebody is sticking an ice pick in my back and my ribs.
And it actually hurts to breathe, but I keep thinking, I almost thought about canceling the show today.
I said, you know, I don't want to do that.
I said, this will probably go away, but I don't know.
My body's telling me, man, you need to start resting.
I really have been working 17 to 18 hours a day the last month.
Before that, it was like 60 hours a day.
I'm not whining.
It's been very rewarding, but it's kind of like, I guess, post-traumatic.
Man, as soon as you get the job done, it's just like you collapse.
I'm not even tired.
It's my back.
Ever had your back hurt where it hurts to breathe?
Oh, man.
Anyways, let's take some calls.
Robert in Ohio.
Go ahead, Robert.
Hello, Alex.
Thank you for being a true patriot.
I've got a comment and a question.
Welcome.
Thank you for joining us.
Yeah, I think the comment is, I think Hillary Clinton is going to go over to the Republican Party so she can win in the Republican Party.
Okay, the question I have is, back in December you talked about a patriot that wrote a book called Alliance.
I think Mr. Webb wrote it.
Dark Alliance, yes.
Yeah, Dark Alliance.
I ordered it online.
I ordered it through two bookstores.
Is there any way that somebody would know how I can get that book?
I can't get it.
Well, we don't carry Dark Alliance.
But, I mean, I guarantee you can get it from Amazon.
I guarantee you can get it from Barnes & Nobles.
In fact, I haunt the bookstores in my off time, and I have seen copies of Dark Alliance.
You might call around to some used bookstores as well.
Okay.
Okay, thank you very much.
Alright, thank you for the call.
I'll just say that Hillary Clinton... I disagree with you.
Hillary Clinton will never be a Republican.
Who knows?
I never thought we'd see an Austrian who says he wants to be a dictator as governor, so maybe she will.
But that is in the cards to run her against Schwarzenegger, and then conservatives will vote for the gun-grabbing, open-border-promoting, anti-American thinking they're fighting Hillary.
I will vote for Hillary.
And I can't stand Hillary Clinton.
But yes, over some just scumbag who's Kurt Voltheim, his big buddy and his daddy, you know, helped hunt down Americans.
And he says he loves Hitler and makes people get on their knees and call themselves ugly dogs.
That's Parade Magazine reporting on that.
Premier Magazine, excuse me.
But I'm not going to put up with it.
Let's talk to Robert in Ohio.
Robert, you're on the air.
Go ahead.
We already talked to Robert.
Andy in Texas.
Andy, go ahead.
Hey, this is Andy in Gonzales, Texas.
I just want to call and just tell you I appreciate, we all appreciate you down here.
And I just wanted to give you a heads up on a new article I read in a magazine about a company out of Shanghai bought a fiber optic line that crosses the entire globe.
From one continent to the other.
It was owned by another company.
Yeah, they bought out.
Global Crossing went bankrupt and the Chai Coms bought it.
Right, right.
And the FBI, even the CIA said, we don't want this to happen.
They went and made a plea to President Bush and he said, okay, go ahead and do it.
And now they own it for a fraction of what it was originally put up for.
It was $247 million and it was put up for $54 billion.
What they do is they built the 66 Earth-orbiting satellites that control the GPS system.
The Bin Ladens were on the board of the company.
Then they bankrupted it on purpose and gave it to the government.
So, I mean, look, Jimmy Carter gave the Panama Canal to the Communist Chinese, and it could have been blocked, but then in 2000, Bill Clinton let it go forward, the Republican House and Senate voted for it,
You never heard a neocon talk about it?
Right.
This is the type of traitorous activity... Look, the CFR and other globalist think tanks have said, America is to be dismantled.
Okay, by design, we're being brought down.
Thanks for the call.
That's what the open border is all of it's about.
It is by design.
We're to be brought down, okay?
China will be the world model because they have... They know how to treat their people like slaves.
Andy in Texas.
You're on the air.
Go ahead.
I'm sorry I'm dingy.
I got these calls out of order.
I just talked to Andy.
Jimmy in Texas.
Go ahead, Jimmy.
Good afternoon, or still morning.
Anyway, hi, Alex.
How are you doing?
Listen, I printed out the Popular Mechanics quote debunking.
Of course, it was very short in comparison to all the quote conspiracies out there, but I had a specific question.
Before I ask you, I am not impressed with the DOD or the FEMA photos.
You know, it's just a bunch of volleying.
But last year, I did not notice, last year you had a retired Army Colonel Don DeGranbray?
Yes.
Okay.
But just what gets me is that basically the rebuttal to that, what he said on your show was that the guy that he said,
I'm really having trouble following you.
I'll talk to you during the break and find out what you're talking about.
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All right, Jimmy.
In Texas.
Finish up what you were saying, sir.
Okay.
Last year, February 2004, you had a retired Army Colonel, Don DeGrandpre, saying that Flight 93 was taken out by the North Dakota Air Guard.
He knew the pilot who fired those missiles.
They were sidewinders.
It was a Major Rick Gibney.
Okay.
Now, Popular Mechanics has a response saying fact.
He was saying that Gibney was reluctant...
Yeah, actually...
Don DeGrandpre did not say Gibney's name on air in the interview they mentioned.
If you're specific, if you're looking at the actual article... You're right.
You're right.
Let's roll 911.org.
Yeah, they say he's lying.
And Don has been very quiet and secretive about which particular pilot.
And I find it strange in the article...
That they say in there that the F-16s were ferrying around FEMA officials.
Thanks for the call.
I appreciate it.
Look, I've talked about this.
They also, in the same article, say that there was one F-16 intercept in the decade before September 11th.
Uno.
And they quote the head spokesman for NORAD.
They quote the major.
And then we found an Associated Press article.
Just type that major's name into a search engine.
And you'll get the Associated Press article where he said that they'd done it over 60 times in the year before 9-11.
And everybody knows there was more than one F-16 intercept in the decade before 9-11.
I mean, you don't have to even go check that out.
You've all heard of the plane that gets off course and the F-16s escort it or you fly over controlled airspace and F-16s escort you.
I mean, every pilot listening has all heard about this happening to people or it's happened to them.
I mean, it just happened.
In fact, now that's actual intercepts.
The jet's coming up next to you, threatening to shoot you down.
There were hundreds of cases of them being launched.
Then they say it took an hour and 30 minutes for the F-16s to get to golfer Payne Stewart's plane.
No.
I have the USA Today articles.
In fact, I have it in the new film that just came out.
Marshall Law.
From the day after it happened.
I have a whole bunch of articles.
We show like three or four of them in the film.
They didn't know the plane was off course until it had taken off in Florida, gotten out of Florida.
And about an hour after it took off, they'd lost contact with it, and it wasn't responding to air traffic signals and communications.
So then they launched F-16s, and in 18 minutes, it was surrounded by six F-16s.
Now, I got USA Today.
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Let's talk to Ed in Pennsylvania.
Ed, go ahead.
Welcome.
Ed just hung up, so we're having fun here.
Jason in Maryland.
Jason, go ahead.
Hi, Alex.
I'm calling to talk about the fellow you had on yesterday, Douglas Wohall, or Boo Hall, or what was his name?
Yes.
And he stated yesterday how he believes in the punctuated equilibrium theory.
And I wanted to call and let your listeners know just exactly what that is.
The punctuated equilibrium theory is also called by its inventor the hopeful monster theory, which basically states... Well, that's because real scientists cannot... Everything that they claimed about evolution is turning out to be untrue.
Indeed.
And so now they're saying, okay, stuff does happen overnight.
But it basically states that one day a lizard laid an egg and an eagle came out.
Right.
And like you said, it came about because there's no evidence for the theory of evolution.
Darwin himself said that the theory would be proven or disproven in one area, the fossil record.
And proponents of the theory of evolution know that all the fossils appear in one level of strata.
Well, let me just stop you.
I mean, we know you can watch bacteria evolve in a Petri dish.
So species do change.
But see, I've never... The globalists set up false debates, okay?
Scientists who were atheists
Wanted to discredit Christianity, so they set up a debate, and we all joined in on it, and we've played into their plan.
Who am I to say how God makes things?
Who am I to say how God does things?
I know that the official theory of how they say evolution takes place has been totally disproven.
But do creatures change?
I mean, have humans, because of better diet, gotten an average of like seven inches taller in the last hundred years?
Yes.
Can you breed dogs and change their basic looks?
Yes.
But no, I mean, yeah, you don't have a chicken turn into a dinosaur or a possum turn into a Keebler elf.
So, yeah, their big official story is a fraud.
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And I've got an article here that was in one of the big Canadian newspapers written by Paul William Roberts, who knew Hunter S. Thompson.
And the story caused some confusion because it was a subscription article, and the first part of the article was this quote.
By Hunter S. Thompson supposedly mumbling before he hung up the phone saying they're going to kill me and they're going to make it look like a suicide because I'm going to do this story about what really made the towers come down.
Then you read into the second part of the article, because I went and paid for it,
And, well, it says that, yes, he had talked to Hunter S. Thompson, and Hunter S. Thompson was working on some story about 9-11 and the government and was worried about the government and, quote, engaged in conspiracies.
And so to really get to the bottom of this is Paul William Roberts.
Paul, thank you for coming on with us.
My pleasure.
Tell us a little bit about yourself and for those who don't know who Hunter S. Thompson was and what has happened to him.
Well, I'm a writer and work in a similar vein to Thompson in that I write journalism but I insert myself into the story which is what Hunter Thompson pioneered in his own way.
Writing pieces that were ostensibly political, but with himself as the main character.
And in some cases, as with the one that was filmed, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, there's nothing other than the story of Hunter Thompson.
There's nothing covered in it.
So it's more like a novel.
He was using the techniques of fiction to write journalism, is essentially what he did.
That's interesting.
You know, that's kind of what I do in my documentary films.
I go out and confront all these government officials, and then, you know, it personalizes it and brings a real-world flavor to it for people.
I know that's kind of what Michael Moore does as well.
So Hunter S. Thompson was one of the first in modern times to develop this.
He pioneered it.
He pushed it a lot further.
The form itself really goes back to the beginning of writing.
But he pushed it to another level and made it infinitely more entertaining.
And I think in doing so, he captured the interest of a generation that would have otherwise turned away from politics.
What were some of the main stands?
I mean, obviously, Hunter S. Thompson was known for extreme, hardcore drug use, being a wild man.
They made a movie about him.
Kind of in a thumbnail sketch, I mean, how would you sum up the life of Hunter S. Thompson?
He was first and foremost a journalist, and he was a real political junkie.
He was obsessed with politics.
He lived and breathed it.
The drug use is really exaggerated by himself as much as by anybody else.
But, I mean, that's a typical technique of writing any form of account.
An exaggeration to drive home an emotional point.
But politics was his abiding obsession.
And people think of him as an extreme leftist.
He wasn't.
He was really more of a libertarian.
And his friends numbered people like Pat Buchanan as well as people like Allen Ginsberg.
Do you have the article you wrote in front of you?
Yeah.
Do me a favor.
Read that first paragraph for us.
Yeah, it should have been in italics.
I don't know whether the version you saw was or not.
The first paragraph was italicized so that it separates it from the rest of it.
Hunter telephoned me on February the 19th
The night before his death, he sounded scared, really scared.
It wasn't always easy to understand what he said, particularly over the phone.
He mumbled, yet when there was something he really wanted you to understand, you did.
He'd been working on a story about the World Trade Center attacks of September the 11th, and had stumbled across what he felt was hard evidence showing the towers had been brought down not by the airplanes that flew into them, but by explosive charges set off in their foundations.
Now he thought someone was out to stop him publishing this information.
They're going to make it look like suicide, he said.
I know how these bastards think.
And then you go on to say that you talked to him, and indeed he was doing this story, and indeed he was worried about people getting him, but kind of in Hunter S. Thompson flair, though, you kind of congeal it all into this amalgamation in this quote.
Sorry?
Explain to me then, I mean, getting down to the nitty gritty, what did Hunter S. Thompson tell you?
Did he tell you that he was doing a story on the towers?
Did he tell you he was afraid?
He wasn't afraid.
He didn't say he was afraid.
He was bothered a lot by people who came around to where he lived because it was well known where he lived and the place was somewhat fortified.
But he was working on many things at the same time, among which were, because of his deep loathing for George W. Bush, he became convinced that there was more to the 9-11 attacks than met the eye, as indeed many other people are saying.
But there is a whole body of evidence that goes back to the designer of the building.
The designer of the building said it was designed to have a plane that size fly into it.
It was designed to have two planes.
Well, it's the way it falls down, and the way the other building falls down within sort of 57 seconds
Thank you very much.
We're designed to come down at all, and it would not drop straight down.
Well, look at the Madrid building that burned for two days with 100-foot white flames shooting out.
Yeah.
I mean, some little bitty window dressing, aluminum melted, and some of the sheetrock ceilings fell in, but none of the superstructure, the main supports, buckled.
In fact, the temperature inside was not anything like hot enough to melt
The good is... Yeah, steel starts melting at around 3,000 degrees, gets red hot at about 2,500 and starts weakening.
And gasoline goes bang, and that's it.
Your inferno stops with the explosion.
Well, here's the evidence.
You had people jumping out, yes, when it was first on fire.
When the jet fuel burned out, you saw hundreds of people in the holes in the buildings jumping
Where the, quote, hottest fires were for 20, 30 minutes begging for help.
Yeah.
So it didn't melt them, but it melted four-foot-around solid steel beams sprayed with asbestos insulation.
Yeah, it's surprising to find that a building like that would come down at all.
It was like a metal mesh, like mosquito screening, that you throw a dart at, the dart would just stick through a hole.
Well, that's what we've actually got, that video clip.
On the website by one of the chief designers who's dead now, but he won't be talking now.
Let's get back to Hunter S. Thompson.
Describe how he lived.
I had read he really lived in an armored compound.
Tell us about that.
It was somewhat fortified because he had a fairly crazy following.
People would come prowling around trying to get in.
He was also famous for keeping an arsenal of guns there.
But he was fairly sensible with guns.
Although there was an accident that was made much of, it was actually nothing like it was blown up to be.
He was, like anybody who has guns, very, very careful with them.
That's why you can tell that it wasn't an accident when he showed himself.
Okay, so he was telling you he was worried about the government.
He was telling you that he thought the government was involved.
He was doing a story, but in the article you say you think he committed suicide.
When he was on the phone to his wife when he did it,
I mean, that's the odd part.
I don't know what they were talking about.
He's saying, come home, baby, you're at the gym, and I want you to come home, and then he supposedly shoots himself?
I don't know what they were talking about, as I said, but I assume it was an argument.
Well, that's what it says in the newspaper.
Yeah, and she heard a noise.
She's given two different stories.
First, she told a Colorado paper she didn't hear a noise.
Then she told another paper she did hear a noise.
But the noise she claims she heard doesn't sound to me much like a gun.
I mean, she describes a sort of clunking noise.
Well, that could be a silencer.
The volume wouldn't carry through the phone.
What do you think happened to Hunter S. Thompson?
I think all his life he suffered very badly from arthritis.
His left hand was almost deformed.
And he was in considerable pain.
He'd recently broken his hip and his leg.
And I think he was just miserable with pain and didn't like getting old.
But the wife's describing something that didn't sound like a gunshot.
Yeah, the wife... But again, very few of us have ever heard a gun go off in a room.
It's deafening.
And the audio fidelity of a telephone is not going to really carry that particularly well.
You would probably just hear something like a plunk because it couldn't carry anything like that kind of decibels.
I don't know about that.
Now, what about his final writings?
Are we going to get a chance to... Have you talked to any of the family?
Are we going to get a chance to see what his 9-11 story was?
I don't know what shape that was in, but I think he felt that he'd come to an end of writing about politics.
Because the last book on Bush, Hey Rube, it's called...
He's almost at a loss for words to describe what he feels about Bush.
And the writing is rather poor.
In fact, he was working on a film script titled Polo Is My Life, which was a kind of love-turned-sour story that he was trying to peddle around Hollywood.
So possibly he'd given up writing altogether.
Well, I know he was still writing for ESPN about the gridiron.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And he did a fair bit of sports writing.
That was his other love.
I mean, you know, when he met Nixon, they talked about football and nothing else.
Well, I guess they've already had the memorial service.
I mean, it was a quiet family affair.
Yes, yeah.
I still don't know whether anybody saw this coming, whether it was totally unexpected.
I know the son found the body.
And where did Hunter shoot himself?
In the head, I think.
Do you know where in the head?
Through the mouth.
Through the mouth?
Yeah.
Best way to do it.
Any other specifics of what he said about 9-11 to you?
Only that he was increasingly dubious about what had happened, and the more he looked into it, the more facts emerged.
He was in touch with a very wide network of people.
He knew an enormous number of people in all walks of life, some of them extremely high up.
And they were agreeing with him?
Well, he often wouldn't name sources.
You could tell by the caliber of the information that it was from somewhere fairly high up.
But when you put all those facts together, the Pentagon people who...
Well, certainly, you know, I was the first person
Two months before 9-11, I said on TV and radio, I said, call the White House.
They're going to attack the World Trade Center.
Bin Laden, their CIA asset, will take the blame.
And just so you know, because you're a prominent writer, Mr. Roberts, this is what happened on 9-11.
They were running drills the month before, the week before, the morning of, of flying hijacked jets in the World Trade Center, Pentagon, Sears Tower, and what's that big pointy building in...
In San Francisco, I always forget the name.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
They were doing drills of all of that.
I have all the documents, and I even had this before it was in the Associated Press.
They were doing drills of flying those planes into the building so NORAD itself would stand down until the first plane hit.
Then Cheney was in control of NORAD three months before he took control from the generals back to just himself.
We're good to go.
The plane had stopped in Phoenix.
He got off the plane and said, there's five guys.
One of them was Muhammad Atta.
They're doing some kind of drill of hijacking the plane.
The FBI said, shut your mouth.
It's national security.
So what happened is, they're decoys.
They get on thinking it's part of a drill.
Gas is released, kills everybody on board.
Remote control takes control and flies the planes into the buildings.
And so that's what happened on 9-11, just in case you wanted to know.
Well, that's pretty extraordinary.
And I don't doubt that it's true, because some of those facts I'm aware of, but nothing like the rest you just told me.
Well, that's how it happened.
I mean, there were no Arabs on that plane.
Well, according to the official manifest, there are no Arabs, because these were officers, and they had to keep their names off the list.
Their houses, their cars, their credit cards were paid for by the FBI and CIA when they'd leave the country, and the embassies wouldn't let them back in.
They would be ordered by the CIA to let them back in.
They were trained at U.S.
military bases.
They were government officers.
And they did indeed get on those planes.
That's why they have the video of it, but their names were not on the manifest because it was part of a drill.
American and United took part.
That's why you see only 20% on each of the four planes.
Did you know that?
No.
20% occupancy, yeah.
A malfunction at American and United on a day with 80-plus percent occupancy on the East Coast, only 20% on each of the four planes.
Right, and the fact that there was no fighter sent up to shoot...
At least the third one down.
Now stay there.
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He's Paul William Roberts.
He was friends with new Hunter S. Thompson.
And in the days before he died, I talked to him, discussing, well, I think the government was behind 9-11, probably was behind 9-11.
I think the government might try to get me.
This is scary stuff.
And then he supposedly commits suicide.
And, well, I know Dr. David Kelly, the porting down bioweapons lab chief and U.N.
weapons inspector, said the government was lying.
I know he said they're going to kill me and put me in the woods, and then he...
Slit his wrist, there was no blood at the scene, undigested pills in his stomach, and people saw men in black uniforms around his body that ran off from the police, but the family says, oh no, it's a suicide, and Gary Webb told people that, yeah, I've been getting threatening calls, and I've been being followed, and people have been sneaking around in my house, and then he shoots himself twice in the head, and the family says, oh, it's a suicide, and Princess Diana says, Prince Charles has told me he's going to kill me, and it's going to look like an auto accident, and six months later that she dies in an auto accident, and
I don't know.
I guess it's just all suicide.
I mean, maybe some of them are, maybe some of them aren't, but where there's smoke, there's fire.
Do you have any comments on that, Mr. Roberts?
Well, I just published a book on the Iraq War.
I was there during the bombing and after.
I can tell you that everything that came out about that was a tissue of lies.
They knew full well, long, long in advance that there were no weapons of mass destruction there because they keep quoting Hussein Kamel, Saddam's brother-in-law,
About the quantities of toxins that had been amassed.
But his own quotes... They never mentioned that he also said they'd been destroyed.
Well, that's it.
His own quotes and testimony where they'd been destroyed in the 91 War and the year after.
Right.
Right.
I mean, they quote the bit they like and they leave out the rest.
That'd be like if I said, I love cars...
And then my whole sentence was, I love cars.
You know, I like to drive them.
And it would be like if they said, I like cars, and they added, and I like to steal them.
But I never said I like to steal them, but look, he loves cars, he likes to steal them.
I once interviewed Saddam, and at one point he told me that he'd asked a senior American diplomat during the Iran-Iraq war, when he discovered that America was arming both sides
He said, off the record, tell me, who do you want to win this war?
And the diplomat replied, no, off the record, we'd be happy if both sides lost.
Which is what happened, of course.
So it's all about creating as much destabilization and death and destruction as possible.
Chaos, as long as it's somebody else's, is much easier to operate in.
I mean, that's why they're trying to force a civil war, because it's a good excuse to carry on with what they want to do there and remain there.
So the globalists are bringing order out of chaos?
No, I think it's the same process you saw at the end of the British Empire, when Pakistan was created, a country created in two pieces 2,000 miles from each other.
That's what I said.
They create the crisis and then bring their order.
Well, I'll tell you what.
I'd like to hear about your Saddam Hussein interview and talk to you a little bit more just about yourself.
You're a very interesting individual.
Can you stay with us into the next hour?
I sure can.
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Scott in Texas.
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Yeah, I was just wondering if you guys might be able to clear up something that I had heard through the journalist Sherman Skolnick.
He's reporting that another story or book, I don't remember exactly which, that Hunter S. Thompson was working on was about this gay prostitution ring in the White House.
And supposedly that was another touchy topic that he brought out in the whole... Had you heard that from Hunter?
Yeah, I'd heard that quite a lot from Hunter.
It goes back to Kissinger, I believe.
Wow, now that's a big confirmation.
Now, for those who don't know, we have Washington Times articles from 1989, you know, underage call boys in the White House.
And so this is serious.
Hunter was working on that.
In fact, Lyndon LaRouche published some stuff about that.
Yeah.
And although a lot of his material was not that trustworthy in this particular case, there were a lot of sources cited and there was no lawsuit.
And with no lawsuit, you can be almost guaranteed that it's true.
And I'm wondering if that might not be a Potter issue otherwise, because
You know, you get into the Jeff Gannon case and the whole gay prostitution.
That's a national security issue.
Well, I mean, Skolnick's saying that now.
We're talking about some of the fake reporters.
And we know that, again, I haven't confirmed that part of the story, but I'd like to get some confirmation on that.
Yeah, and also it's interesting, too, because it dovetails with,
I think so.
Well, let me just add this.
I mean, we have the New York Post, top gay porn star services moguls at Bohemian Grove.
I mean, I have parade magazine articles, spy magazine articles from the 80s, where, as I said, they bust in the gay prostitutes like beluga caviar for our Christian conservative leaders.
And is that what Hunter S. Thompson was on to?
He certainly knew all about that, and I believe had written about it.
I don't know whether there was a book in the works, but he certainly had published columns on it.
And supposedly there were some upcoming interviews with Rolling Stone magazine, although I'm not able to confirm that one or not.
Well, it looks pretty suspicious, and...
Man, I tell you.
And supposedly CNN did a small report on the Gannon case, and they were called by Andrew Card, and Card threatened that he would yank their satellite if they continued on with the story.
So there's been virtually immediate silence on the...
On the whole homosexuality.
That's right.
CNN uses military satellites.
CNN has done an odd sort of turnaround in the last year or so.
Yeah, they're pretty neocon now.
Yeah.
We'll be right back with our guest.
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Eight minutes, 30 seconds into the second hour of the third day of March 2005.
Already!
Already!
Already!
The third month of 2005.
It is unbelievable.
I'm just now getting used to saying 2005.
I tell you, I've been pleasantly surprised by the depth and breadth of knowledge of our guest, who is a renowned journalist, Paul Roberts, Paul William Roberts, and he has this new book out that's winning a lot of big awards, but you can't even get it published here in the U.S., but you can get it over the Internet, A War Against Truth,
And he was friends with Hunter S. Thompson, who he talked to before he died, and was saying, I believe the government was probably involved in 9-11, the towers, I think I have evidence, were blown up.
Well, I mean, we have the owner saying they blew it up.
And he was also, we just had a caller brought up what Sherman Skolnick raised.
And I have the Washington Times articles and others from the late 80s, an underage cowboy ring in the White House.
It's like Barney Frank gets caught with the underaged people, and he doesn't get in trouble running a call center out of his penthouse.
I mean, this is... You talk about just incredible standards.
But for Democrats, you catch a Democratic governor with his boyfriend, he has to leave, but the Republican congressman...
You know, have got their male mistresses tucked all over the place and everybody knows about it.
It's just, don't talk about it or you're an evil liberal.
You know, you talk about the open borders, you're an evil liberal.
You talk about how you're for the Second Amendment, you're an evil liberal.
You talk about how you're against lying and invading countries, you're an evil liberal.
You talk about how you're against torturing people to death, you're an evil liberal.
And it just gets crazier and crazier.
But we're going to go back to your calls, but I want to go back to our guest who, among other things, interviewed people like Saddam Hussein.
I want to get into that with him.
And talk about his new book, but continuing with Hunter S. Thompson.
So you can confirm, you talked to him, and of course he'd written about this as well, but specifically he was working on some big stories concerning these male prostitutes in the White House.
Can you give us specifics of what he told you?
He had all manner of material like that because he'd built up over 40 years, he'd built up quite a network of contacts.
He'd been a pilot in the Air Force before that, so he knew how to talk to all kinds of people.
I remember as far back as the Kissinger days, in talking about Kissinger meeting boys in, I forget which hotel it was in New York, but it was the same information that Lyndon LaRouche published.
And there's never been a lawsuit over it.
No, which is a sure sign.
But, I mean, the Republicans can do what they like, and the liberals are dirty commies.
You're right.
And, I mean, look at George Bush's father.
He had his mistress with him while he was in China, made sure she got a high position when he came back, and she went everywhere with him.
Clinton has a little furtive fling in the Oval Office, and the man is crucified.
And again, I'm not defending Bill Clinton.
He's a corporate shill, but this national schizophrenia is dangerous.
Very dangerous.
Very dangerous.
But the world is turning its back on America, and another four years of Bush...
It's going to be disastrous for the country.
The Europeans are ignoring every request, every coercion.
When you think about it, America is doing exactly what the Soviet Union did towards the end, rely totally on big weapons and threats instead of spreading democratic freedoms.
Well, I watched Bush's speech when he was sworn in a few months ago, and literally he said liberty and freedom.
He said liberty 24 times, freedom I think 16 times.
He said tyranny like 14 times.
We actually counted it up and put it in this new film I came out with.
And he talked about spreading freedom.
They put the Bathurst back in.
They're running torture chambers everywhere.
The troops are sleeping in their tanks.
I mean, it is a total fraud.
And they have the nerve to accuse other people of human rights abuses.
Oh, by the way, the Army's own report...
Says that they did things with battery acid that Jeffrey Dahmer did.
Literally.
Jeffrey Dahmer would take acid and do things to people in their orifices.
And this is what our CIA torture people do.
I mean, this is insane.
I mean, in one year they managed to do everything that Saddam had ever done to his people.
Except he'd done it over 30 years.
And again, Saddam was our boy.
Islam was definitely your boy, yeah.
And even the Kuwait War.
The last meeting he has with a senior American official, with April Glaspie, the ambassador to Baghdad, just before the invasion of Kuwait.
Yeah, go ahead and invade.
We don't have any agreements with Kuwait.
She says three times to him, Secretary of State James Baker has told me to tell you we have no opinion on your Arab-Arab dispute.
We will not get involved in inter-Arab affairs.
Right.
And he tells her three times he's going to resort to a military solution.
And when she defended herself in the New York Times, because she was scapegoated at one point, she said that nobody, no analyst, whether in Riyadh or in Washington, thought that Saddam would take all of Kuwait, by which you can infer that it would have been okay if he'd taken part of Kuwait.
Well, number one, Kuwait was always part of what Iraq is today.
The British just carved it up.
Right.
It was a legitimate territorial dispute they had.
The Kuwaitis owed him a lot of money for defending them against the Iranians.
But then they hired a big PR firm with a daughter of the PR firm owner who'd never even been in Kuwait, and she's standing up there.
I saw the incubators, the babies.
That's now admitted to be a total lie.
Yeah, it was an old story from the First World War, I believe.
The Germans were supposed to have hurled Belgian babies out of incubators, but nothing of the sort happened.
Well, it's the same MO with WMD.
Now they say, though, I've got room sold on tape on Face the Nation.
He said, I never said it was about weapons of mass destruction.
That's an urban legend, a conspiracy, and then we've got 50 clips of him saying it.
Yeah, like it's nothing to do with oil, right?
But, I mean, they have the nerve to say we never said it was about WMD.
It was about spreading democracy.
I mean, how dumb do they think we are?
We all remember them saying that.
Yeah.
After the war, you spread the democracy.
I mean, the idea that the whole country is going to be... that you've been bombing consistently virtually every day for 13 years is going to be happy to see your soldiers.
I couldn't believe how badly treated the American troops were over there.
When they arrived in Baghdad, they hadn't showered in three months.
They hadn't called home.
They didn't know where they were.
I felt really sorry for them, and they were pissed off.
By the way, that's not a joke.
We've had the trips on air.
It's been in the news.
They get one meal a day unless they pay for their meals.
They're told they have to then wash their clothes, and Halliburton charges them for that.
If they get a leg blown off, they discharge them at Rammstein, then they have to pay.
Families have to get together and have potluck dinners or cake walks to bake sales to get money to fly them back from Germany.
I know, it's just really sad.
The first time I realized, looking at them, that this is cannon fodder.
Nobody cares what happens to them.
Well, supporting them means you really don't support them.
Supporting them means you just mindlessly fly a plastic flag made by Chinese slaves.
Yeah, and you have a machine to sign the letters of condolence for you.
Let's take a call here.
Let's talk to... Oh, who is up next here?
Matt in Texas, you're on the air.
Go ahead.
How you doing, Alex?
Good, sir.
Are you familiar with the documentary Brothers on Holy Ground?
No.
Well, I was watching the True Channel a while ago, and there's a thing about September 11th and the way the buildings fell.
You're talking about the French Brothers, of course.
Yes, sir, yes.
And we played that clip.
The firefighters say, did you see the detonators?
Did you see the, you know, it looked like bombs were going off?
Well, this guy was just one of the employees in the building, I think, in Building 2.
And he said whenever the second plane struck his building after the building quit shaking, he heard multiple explosions coming from across the street.
Yeah, no, it's full of witnesses saying bombs.
I've called firefighters up that are in the newspaper saying they saw the bombs go off, and it's Mr. Jones.
Listen, I've been told not to talk.
I love my family.
Goodbye.
I'm not kidding.
That's what Lou Caccioli, who was in People Magazine, told me.
Senior firefighter, you know, head of a whole fire team.
And he just said, look, I've been told not to talk about it.
Yeah, I just thought it was weird because if you remember Oklahoma City, there was mysteriously, you know, the other explosions.
And it just seems like they leave their signia everywhere.
Well, that was another.
But look, we have total proof on that.
That was another government op, you know.
Yeah, I just thought I would pass that along.
I didn't know if you'd seen it or not.
Yeah, there's three different groups in that, firefighters and some other witnesses.
We're talking about the French Brothers film, saying bombs going off.
Yeah.
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Let's go ahead and talk to Pam in New Mexico.
Pam, you're on the air.
Go ahead.
Hi, Alex.
Take a hot tub for your back.
I hope you feel better.
I wasn't whining earlier.
No, I know it.
I woke up this morning after a luscious four hours of sleep after I finished the film Martial Law last night at about 4 a.m., and I feel like somebody's sticking an ice pick in my back.
I know.
I said the same thing, and honest to God, a hot tub will really help.
But anyway, that's not what I called about.
What I called about is that I've noticed that a new word has come into American parlance and that seems to be the word suicided.
People are being suicided like Hunter Thompson and Gary Webb and my burning question is, is that what
Greg Palast, who you've had on your show, he must know, surely, Greg Palast must know the truth about 9-11 and about the theft of the 2004 election.
And he doesn't say a word about it.
And what about your fellow Texans, Molly Ivins,
And Jim Hightower, who are very articulate about the depredations of the Bush administration, yet they don't say anything about this.
Let's get something clear here.
Bush is nothing but a puppet.
Clinton was a puppet.
It's that the globalist corporate interests, who are not free market, who operate as a global crime syndicate, are getting more and more arrogant...
And actually, Palace does talk about the election scams, but you can't have an election scam without a scamming candidate that takes the dive who's a ringer.
And so Kerry was a ringer.
And look...
I mean, Palace has reported on that.
He doesn't really, I mean, he gets into 9-11 and the prior knowledge and Bush ordering the FBI off of the trail.
But, you know, he works for the BBC.
He can't go all the way.
Now, as for Molly Ivins, I mean, she's really an establishment lib.
You know, she's for this whole system.
I like Hightower, but he doesn't go as far as he should.
Any comments, sir, on that?
You had an article not long ago in the Financial Times in London saying that the electoral boundaries were redrawn to favor the Republicans.
And that's a prestigious periodical.
Well, we had Michael Meacher for The Guardian, the number three man in the Blair government, basically said the government carried out 9-11.
Really?
Yeah, well, in his article two years ago, yeah, titled, what is it, The War on Terror is a Fraud.
Well, I mean, you can't wage war against an abstract noun anyway, can you?
How do you know if you won?
Well, that's the point.
It's a perfect, foggy, Goldstein, 1984.
Bush has said it's going to be a hundred-year war.
Yeah, no, the war is endless.
It's just like Orwell said.
All right, anything else?
You have this, Ambassador Wilson said, I saw him on some footage of a movie, I've forgotten which movie it was, but Ambassador Wilson, Valerie Plume's, Valerie Flame's husband, he said, these people are patriots, misguided, but patriots all the same.
I don't see how he can say that.
How can they say that Bush et al.,
Hey, have you heard?
They're going to try to make Wolfowitz head of the World Bank.
Thanks for the call, Pam.
Glenn, where are you calling us from?
Hi.
Where are you calling from?
Toronto, Canada.
Welcome.
How are you?
Good.
I just wanted to know, I heard that you were a part of the Church of Scientology.
Is that true?
No.
Where did that come from?
I don't know.
I'm not a member of any church or organization.
I've had groups on that have been associated with them who are against the drugging of children, but I've had Ann Coulter on this show.
It doesn't mean I'm with Ann Coulter.
How can we email you?
Tips at Infowars.com Let me write this down.
Sorry?
Tips at Infowars.com, sir.
Yeah.
And also, there's an Alex Jones who's a New York Times writer and who does NPR shows.
I'm not that Alex Jones.
There's about ten Alex Joneses in the media, and I'm tired of being confused with them.
I'm Alexander Emmerich Jones.
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Not to be confused with Alex S. Jones or Alex D. Jones or Alex M. Jones.
Okay, so it's Chip...
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Thank you very much, Nate.
Thank you.
I appreciate it.
No, it's just, it's irritating.
I mean, where this stuff comes from, I have no idea.
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Paul Roberts, of course, Paul William Roberts, is the author of A War Against Truth, which you can get via the Internet.
It's not published here in the U.S., though it's award-winning.
Tell us about your book before we take some more calls.
Well, the subtitle is An Intimate Account of the Invasion of Iraq.
And it's an eyewitness account of what happened and includes a background history, not just of Saddam, but of the whole area, going back to British Imperial times, so that you can see the context in which this has to be put.
I find the news today lacks all context.
It's just a blizzard of facts unconnected.
But this puts it all together.
I've got a DVD, too, of footage I shot there called American Holocaust.
And I'll send you a copy, Alex.
Yeah, well, how do people get a copy of that?
Well, I'm going to send you a box of books, which you can give away or do what you want with, and I'll send you a DVD, and you're welcome to burn copies.
Wow.
You know, that's always a sign of somebody that really cares.
I'm authorizing my listeners to make copies of my films.
I just want to get it out, because we're not going to have a civilization.
That was my next question.
That was my next... Well, first off, tell people about your publisher and how they can still get it here in the U.S.
It's published in Canada by Raincoast Publishing.
Raincoast in Vancouver.
And you can get it on Amazon CA, the Canadian version of Amazon.
Or Indigo, which is an online bookseller, too.
Okay, a war against truth.
But that was my final question before we go to a blitz of calls here, was if the globalists, this out-of-control crime syndicate, just continues, there's $2.4 trillion missing from the Pentagon, CBS News, there's just mass corporate looting, just total criminality, and they're getting away with all of it, and history shows when they start getting away with all of it, they just don't stop, you know,
It's just more, more, more, more, more, more, more.
It's like the end of the Roman Empire when the Emperor Valentinian III decides to cut down the content of silver in the coins.
Takes it down 6% within a few years.
You know, there's only 3% of silver left.
And then he finds out that his taxes are paid in that currency, and so he's really spitting himself.
But I mean, the parallels with the decline of the Roman Empire are enormous.
Well, they're just going wild.
I mean, when do you think it's going to stop, or will it?
Well, I think it's up to the rest of the world, particularly the European countries, to get together and block it.
But you can see in South America...
In Southeast Asia, these various blocks forming that are excluding America and are deliberately thwarting American patterns.
The American economy is in disastrous shape.
The dollar could collapse any day.
That was another one of Saddam's problems, converting into the euro.
But this is the problem.
If you look at who owns American banks and American corporations, number one owners are the British, then you've got the Germans and the Swiss and the French and the Japanese and the Arabs, predominantly the Saudis, House of Saud.
And so really what I see is America's been captured by the most radical interest of this global system.
They're kind of using us as the bad cop, and then Europe puts out some rhetoric, but at many levels they're really just part of the same thing.
Well, I'm sure they are on certain levels.
You're right.
But the emerging economies in Asia, you know, I don't think are part of that.
They'll probably form their own criminal syndicate at a given time.
But the fact with the dollar as being an international currency, half the dollars that exist are held outside of America.
The World Reserve, you know, they talk about the euro's gone back down.
It's gone back down by like a third of a percent.
The dollar's down 42% from three years ago.
Yeah, well, if OPEC had even gone over to two currencies, the euro and the dollar, the dollar would have fallen 40% overnight.
By the way, I have a Financial Times article.
They're talking about $3 a gallon gas right now.
Well, the Europeans will say welcome to the club.
Well, how is that?
How do we get fuel at $1.50 and Europe's paying $6?
A deal with the Saudis, isn't it?
But I mean, now, of course, America is basically a member of OPEC.
It's just unbelievable.
You know, people... The news keeps saying the economy's great, the economy's great, the economy's great.
I mean, I know hundreds of people who have two, three degrees, who are hardworking.
They've all lost their jobs.
They say the high-tech job layoffs are going to get seven times greater in the next four years.
Congressional Budget Office.
Houses are for sale everywhere.
The average American family spends $1.20 a year for every dollar they make.
America doesn't make anything.
There's nothing really made there anymore.
And that was the same in the case of the last days of Rome.
All they manufactured was the currency and an army.
But why have the globalists of America as their military arm, why have the globalists then moved all the industry offshore?
Because it's just a short-term thing and make all the money they can?
They're very short-term.
Look at Norman Mailer once said of George Bush, the father, that he's no doubt an intelligent man, but he couldn't pass a first-year course in philosophy.
They think very, very short-term.
Big profits, short-term.
Look what they're doing to the ecology.
I call that looting.
Yeah.
It's just a wild looting.
But I'm telling you, there's bigger financial interest above puppets like Bush.
Why are they allowing this mad dog looting?
Because they're enriching themselves in the process.
And a lot of them are fundamentalists who have no reason to stop the Armageddon, do they?
Well, that's another thing.
I'm a Christian, and I see these so-called Christian conservative leaders...
And you go, okay, here's five major newspapers that they bushing gay porn stars at Bohemian Grove to have orgies with them.
And they go, oh, up the devil, you're a liar.
And I go, no, no, really, Bush is a member of Skull and Bones.
It's a Nazi death cult.
Oh, that's ridiculous.
You're making that up.
It's just, well, here's Bush making fun of somebody he's going to execute, laughing about it.
Oh, you're a liar.
I mean, it's just like...
No, I don't recognize these people as Christians at all.
I mean, by their deeds, you know, you shall know them.
It's sick.
Let's take some calls.
Ron in New York City.
Go ahead, Ron.
Good afternoon, gentlemen.
I'm going to digress for one moment from the original purpose of my call and say, looters never think in the long term, quite obviously, and anyone could call himself anything he wants.
That doesn't make it so.
And that goes along with the pseudo or plastic Christianity.
Well, it's like this alleged mass murderer up in Missouri, Kansas area.
You know, he's the good government...
No, we think that they're going to look like they do in movies.
They look like people next door.
They don't.
My question is, and particularly to Mr. Roberts,
Recently, at least in the American press, there's been quite a big issue over the last two or three days about the fact that they found some very rough and minimal sketches.
I believe in the possession of the Madrid bombers, and the sketches were of our Grand Central Terminal in New York.
Why would such, I would almost say irrelevant at this point,
Non-evidence be brought out and highlighted this late, a year after.
Well, let me just say this.
I mean, I'm going to throw this.
We have a giant section on PrisonPlanet.com, fake terror alerts.
I mean, there's like 50 of them where they admittedly, quote, issue them.
Even in a press briefing, Ari Fleischer admitted this is for political purposes.
They just make it up to create fear.
Comments, Mr. Roberts?
Yeah, look up Colin Powell with his tube of anthrax in the United Nations.
I mean, ridiculous.
We saw from the Tokyo subway incident that it's actually not very easy to kill people with toxic gas or microbes.
I mean, they basically have to be injected.
No, it's an ironic use of the term injected.
It seems that every time things are starting to calm down just a little bit, I guess you could liken...
The nation now to a patient who's constantly be given injections and then when he wakes up or starts to wake up they give him another injection only in this case the injection is propaganda.
Are people supposed to feel safe because they're told every morning how unsafe they are?
I don't see how some crude sketches can amount to anything really.
Number one it's been proven the Madrid bombing was a government op and it blew up in their face.
And I don't have two hours to go over it.
We've done probably ten shows on it.
So much of what we're seeing in Iraq, I think, is the same.
When you've got somebody like Negroponte in charge there, albeit briefly, it's for a reason.
And the only thing on his resume is an expert in setting up death squads.
And do you think in this case, is it just another one of the routine alarms that we've been through now for four years, or is this an indication that maybe something more serious is in the works?
Well, you know, it's the boy who cried wolf.
When you cry wolf, you know, often enough, nobody takes any notice after a while.
Is that the intention?
I, you know, with these, there's so many different reasons why they could be doing what they're doing.
I'm sure all in the various.
The question is, are we at that point yet?
I said the danger of terror attack went up exponentially after the election.
And I say before Bush leaves office, you're going to have a mega attack that dwarfs 9-11, unless we expose who's behind 9-11.
The idea of a war to defend democracy is a nice idea, but when you think about what it entails, to fight such a war you need a big army, which requires a central command.
Once you've got all that in place, you don't have a democracy to defend anyway.
Well, and you won't have an economy left for very long, considering the amount of money it takes to finance that company.
Well, I don't think you do.
Well, thanks for the call, Ron.
And we've got to defend our constitutional republic, but it's been seized.
Look, it's simple.
I love this country.
I love our military.
I know most of our police are good.
But the ideology, the program they're being fed, like a computer, is a virus, is a fraud.
You know, it's like if I loved a ship, the ship isn't bad because it's going to run over somebody else's boat.
It's bad that somebody hijacked it and has control of it.
And America's this engine.
And it's been hijacked.
And now the hijackers are just going crazy.
I mean, they're just foaming at the mouth because they've got these high-tech...
Space-age PR firms that are able to neutralize the political process in most people's brains, and so most people are just unplugged and are watching football and baseball and eating hot dogs.
Rome is burning, ladies and gentlemen.
The dumbing down of the country is part of it, but the rest of the world isn't quite so dumbed down yet.
I mean, in Paris or in India, people sit around talking, reading newspapers, and are pretty well informed, and they don't buy it when Bush comes
Or whoever comes and wants to do a complete about-face.
Well, Alexander de Tocqueville, when he traveled to America at the turn of two centuries ago, said that all Americans did was sit around with newspapers, you know, in their free time, arguing about politics and getting on soapboxes.
We were the most informed, the most involved.
And you look at us now, I mean, the average American literally cannot find Iraq on a map, but they've got their opinion about it.
No, they don't know the difference between Iraq and Iran.
Everything is almost reversed from when Tuck to Tocqueville was here.
I mean, 5% of the population then were working for somebody else.
95% were self-employed.
And the level of income was all from earned income.
It wasn't from rentier income.
Unbelievable.
We were the ultimate producers.
That's why we had half the world's wealth.
Now we're losing all that.
And more important, losing probably the greatest idea that human beings have ever come up with.
It's so sad.
We had prosperity and power because despite all our problems, we had the best model.
And then now they've hijacked us.
I mean, it's like a virus.
A virus plugs into a cell, reprograms it, then the cell produces thousands more viruses and then busts open, spilling out more.
And America's already busted open.
And we've disgorged this huge mass of these viruses that are just attacking the entire planet, and people are sick of it.
And you have a one-party system, which is no basis to preach democracy to others.
We've got a break.
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All right, we're talking to Paul William Roberts.
We got him on originally because of an article in the Globe and Mail in Canada
He was friends with Hunter S. Thompson, had been talking to him a lot, and he's confirmed that Thompson was working on reports about the gay prostitutes and all the rest of it, the homosexual prostitutes in the Winehouse and all of this.
He was working on stories about 9-11 and government involvement.
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You know what?
Let's go to Mike in Arizona first.
Mike in Arizona, you're on the air.
Welcome.
Yes, hi.
Good afternoon.
Hello.
I was just wondering, and condolences, by the way.
I don't know how close you are, Mr. Roberts, to Hunter Thompson, but...
I'm sure you're feeling some loss.
Oh, I'm in shock.
I was wondering, who has access at this point to Mr. Thompson's records?
I mean, if he does have anything.
Well, the family, the son in particular, I think,
It just seems a shame that his work that he was doing recently here might be lost and I just wonder if they might avail themselves of your services to
Kind of piece that together as best as possible.
Well, I mean, everyone is respecting the family's privacy, and thanks to Homeland Security, I can't come to America anyway.
I see.
Oh, yeah, let's talk about that.
Talk about the new freedom.
Yeah.
After giving a talk in...
In Harvard, I was then invited to Denver to give a talk at a peace rally.
This is the December before the war in 2002.
And as I went to leave the airport here, and the odd thing about Toronto Airport is that the American customs and immigration is actually in the airport, so you can get turned out of America without even entering it.
And I was sitting there.
Somebody came up and took my ticket and passport and didn't come back until the plane had left and then announced that I was not missable.
I said, well, you know, I've been a missable for the last 30 years.
What's the problem?
And then decided I'll drive to Buffalo and fly from there and, you know, Buffalo
They're at the bridge.
They're waiting for me.
And it's really simple.
I mean, we've had, like, what, five members of Congress who aren't allowed to fly now.
I mean, it's serious.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Boy, Mike, that sounds like the new freedom, doesn't it?
Oh, absolutely.
Much more freedom like that, and we'll all be in chains.
Well, I mean, the Constitution has been suspended.
Well, we've got to leave the border open, though.
You can't have security there on the southern border, though.
That might offend someone.
That would be bad for someone's business, probably.
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Already into the third and final hour of this Thursday, the third day of March 2005 edition.
I've really been enjoying our discussion with Paul William Roberts, a respected award-winning journalist and, of course, author of the new book, A War Against Truth.
And we first got him on to talk about his friend Hunter S. Thompson, who told him he was worried about the government and government conspiracies and coming to get him basically over 9-11.
September 11th, and possible government involvement in bringing the towers down.
He was also admittedly working on stories about the cowboys, underage, you name it, in the White House.
Going back over decades, it's all part of the Christian conservativeness of it all.
That we're all supposed to just go along with, I guess.
And we're taking your calls.
In fact, let's just go right back to the calls.
We're bringing up so many different news items from the listeners.
Let's talk to Ed in Pennsylvania.
Ed, welcome, sir.
Thanks for holding.
Hello, Paul and Alex.
Hello.
I'm doing some research on running the diesel motors on used vegetable oil.
And I was reading about Rudolph Diesel, who rented the diesel motor.
He's German.
He made a deal with the English and was crossing a channel on a ferry, and two German agents tossed him into the English channel there.
Of course, it came up in the paper that he committed suicide.
Well, yeah, because diesel was going to threaten all the new processes for what we call the modern petrol or the non-diesel fuels.
He had a motor that could run on coal dust and water.
Well, I mean, they've now got the solar panels that are five times better than anything, and we'll see if those get implemented.
I mean, we're talking about a solar car that has small panels on it, and it'll go, you know, over 100 miles an hour.
The nanotechnology, that was awesome yesterday, Alex.
That was awesome.
Yeah.
But just, you know, just another suicide story coming up.
You know, his family said there was no way it was suicide, and, you know, everything was going great, and he, you know...
It's very suspicious.
This business of vast powers ruining individuals goes back to as far back as Reich and his microscope.
And Bill L. Reich, for that matter.
Well, yeah, there's been just thousands of technological developments that have been shelved
Because they threaten the existing order.
I love that final scene in Indiana Jones, Raiders of the Lost Ark, and it's an analogy, folks.
I'm not saying it's real.
Where they roll the Ark into that warehouse, and it's just an endless warehouse of boxes of all the hidden things.
It's amazing.
Thank you for the call there.
Let's talk now to Thomas in Colorado.
Welcome, Thomas.
Hi, nice to talk to you.
Good to hear from you.
What's on your mind?
I never met Dr. Thompson myself but we had a mutual friend and I'm still friends with this guy.
Through this mutual friend I passed on to him about a year ago some of your videos.
So Dr. Thompson watched your videos.
I know this for a fact.
Through my friend I heard that he was impressed and he said something to the effect that
Yes, that's the way it is, or something like that, or yes, this is how things are.
Well, I didn't know that.
I mean, I know that I've had a lot of Hollywood people and other folks, generals call me up, you know, one in the morning after they've seen the videos, and that's an interesting story.
I know Michael Moore.
I know the people that delivered it into his hand, wrote a tyranny.
And, of course, I made the first film about 9-11, and I've made several since.
The new one, My Best Work, was just released today, but I hope that people will share this as well.
Yeah, well, you know, it sort of contributed to his research.
I'm sure it earned him on, you know.
So your friend, you know, handed them to him, and Hunter watched them?
Yes, I know that for a fact.
Well, tell me more about this when we get back and we'll go to more callers and get the response from our guest, Mr. Thompson's good friend, Paul William Roberts.
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All right, again, just a recap for all of those that have just joined us in the last few minutes.
The last, what, hour and a half we've had.
Paul William Roberts, who is a respected journalist and also author of A War Against Truth.
He was friends with Hunter S. Thompson.
And, of course, even he himself is banned from flying into the United States now just because he gave a speech at Harvard that the globalists didn't like.
And they admit that you give a speech they don't like against their policies.
There are over 350,000 people on the no-fly list.
A lot of times it's somebody who's got a name like David Jones or John Thompson.
Those common names.
It's now five members of Congress that aren't allowed to fly, and then over and over again they go to Homeland Security, get their name off the list, but then it goes right back on the list.
You know, Ted Kennedy.
And now they're going to have this for the driver's license itself.
They're going to have this at the state level.
I'm going to talk about that after we finish up with some of these calls with our guests, but we're talking to Thomas in Colorado, and he said that he gave his friends some of my videos, and his friend was friends with Thompson,
Hunter S. Thompson.
He did see Road to Tyranny.
Now again, his friend who we have on the line with us now, Mr. Roberts, who wrote this article for the Globe and Mail, says that he was aware of 9-11, thought there was evidence of bombs in the towers, and was going to be writing about that.
Of course, he's now died under some questionable circumstances.
Anything else you'd like to add, Thomas?
I've always wanted to ask you this.
I also mailed you something over a year ago.
It was like
It was a commercial from TV that I taped, and I sent it to you, and it was like animated for one of these Xbox kind of games, you know?
It had the song, My country is the sweet land of liberty, and then it showed these black sea mask snipers going around killing people.
Oh, yeah, I did get that, and thank you, and this is the new good guys.
This is freedom.
Of course, in...
In horrible dictatorships, they were wearing masks hundreds of years ago.
When your police start wearing masks, folks, you're in deep trouble.
In fact, let me... All the telltale signs, the nomenclature...
The vocabulary of classical dark oppression is now being picked up with a high-tech overlay.
Do you have any examples of that you'd like to elaborate on, Mr. Roberts?
Well, I mean, I know that organizations like the police have heavy membership in secret societies themselves.
There seems a kind of wooing by the top of the status quo, the middle of the status quo, the people in charge of law and order and justice and so on.
Once you control the courts, you basically control the truth.
It gets back to Orwell.
War is peace.
Slavery is freedom.
I mean, in my book I've got, you know, accounts of Prince Rashid, the nephew of King Hussein, told me that he had intelligence reports from Iraq that the Americans had set off some kind of nuclear device in the underground bunkers of Saddam Hussein where the army had been lured.
And it's still not been clear what happened to at least 50,000 members of the elite Republican Guard.
We're good to go.
That suggestion remains open until somebody's been down there and confirmed that nothing happened.
Well, they told us that they're going to, quote, start using bunker-busting mini-nukes.
Well, yeah, that's right.
This was a deal they'd done with one of Saddam's generals.
Who ordered, the only person other than Saddam who could order that particular elite force, and they were sent to the bunker that is near the airport, which was off-bounds to journalists for a very long time, an unusually long time.
And once down there, once it was sure they were there, something was set off that basically vaporized them.
And you notice a number of generals went asked
What had happened to the army?
A number of them all said the same thing.
They vanished into thin air, which would have been literally true.
But other things I detail in there which are thoroughly obnoxious.
The use of cluster bombs where the bomblets looked like children's toys.
The Japanese journalist found a couple and thought they were toys and was taking them home for his kids.
One of them blew up in Amman airport.
You're joking.
Hold on, hold on.
They're cluster bombs that look like toys?
The bomblets look like children's toys.
They look like spinning tops, things like that.
In Afghanistan, they looked like food parcels.
I saw that confirmed.
What's going on here?
Well, I mean, this is the sort of thing that the Pentagon is not going to want to admit.
You can be sure.
But just as they were using napalm over there, except now it's high-tech napalm, they call it something else.
But somebody got that out of a general of the Pentagon who said, oh, you'll never get the generals to give that up.
They love napalm.
Well, it's just, you know, when they asked the Secretary of State Albright, 700,000 children have died in Iraq under sanctions.
Is that a good price to pay?
And she said, yeah, it is.
That's right.
Yeah, that was circulating with a picture of her looking like a dragon.
Not that that was hard to do.
No, I mean, this kind of thing is... There's a million unexploded cluster bomblets all over the place.
Every day a child gets his legs blown off.
Yes.
Excuse me, hello?
Yes, caller.
Excuse me.
One more little thing just to throw in.
The previous caller was mentioning something about Mr. Diesel.
This is a website, geet.com.
It's about how cars can run on water.
And, you know, if people can look into that, we don't need to have all these words in the first place.
And who is this we're speaking to right now?
This is Thomas Still in Colorado.
Okay.
Well, Thomas, listen, I really appreciate your call.
Take care.
We've forgotten about you.
I apologize.
Let's talk to Randy in Florida.
Randy, you're on the air.
Welcome.
Yeah, well, I'm kind of off topic, but I wanted to address Terry Shabo.
Oh, no, that's never off topic.
Okay, well, I'm just, you know...
I'm speaking mostly to those people that might be listening down in Pinellas County.
If the government down there won't stand up and protect her, if ever a case calls for civil disobedience, this does.
What happened to those folks at the nursing home that she's in?
Don't they have a hypocritical oath?
They don't give the hypocritical oath anymore.
Did you know for 10 years they don't give that oath anymore?
Well, I wasn't aware of that, but those people that work down there, you know, regardless of what the judge... If I was working down there, I would just tell that judge, well, you can cite me for contempt, but I'm not going to kill that woman, you know, for you or anybody else.
You know, there's a higher authority that we all answer to, and, you know...
People need to take that into account.
And understand, it's not taking her off a respirator.
She's not brain dead.
And there's a lot of foul play in the background of it.
It's really a horrible story.
And I checked into it last night.
How is she doing right now?
Well, I mean, you know, she's just under a death sentence and waiting for that tube to be pulled.
I mean, that woman is fighting for her life, and the rest of us need to get into the brain with her.
Well, they pulled her feeding tube before.
Of course, they won't let him brush her teeth.
They won't let him, when she gets an infection, give her any treatment.
I mean, you can't treat an animal like that.
Well, under the Florida statutes for abuse, you know, withholding food and water is a crime.
And what Governor Bush should do, and the sheriff down there, is say, Okay, Judge, if you kill this woman, we're going to arrest you and charge you with murder.
Yeah, there is too much judicial tyranny.
Thanks for the call.
Let's talk to Jeremy in Florida.
Go ahead, Jeremy.
Jeremy just hung up.
They're good at that.
William in Oregon.
Go ahead.
Yes, sir.
Alex.
Good day.
Thanks again for all your good work.
Thank you.
A couple quick things off topic here.
I was listening every night, but once in a while I catch up on the Fox News.
They start talking about Toll Road.
They had Hannity and Combs up there.
They tell us they were conservative and good.
No, they were condemning.
It was amazing.
I thought I was listening to you.
I thought of my stock.
They were basically kind of advocating on the side of where you and I would come from, which is, what are you guys doing?
And they're blaming it on liberals, so I found it very funny.
And evidently they had a guest on there.
His name escapes me.
I knew it.
I knew it.
By the way, let me tell you who's putting the toll roads in.
Governor Rick Perry of Texas, Arnold Alois Schwarzenegger of California, and the governor of New York's trying it.
What's he?
What's Pataki?
An Easter Bunny?
No, he's a Republican.
Again, folks, I'm not a Democrat here.
I'm just sick of it.
This is great conservatism.
This is what used to annoy Hunter Thompson no end.
He was a great believer that government should just be small and stay out of the way.
And accuse these people of being fake conservatives.
Well, I found it really ironic that they're sitting here and blaming it on the liberals.
But the interesting thing was in the end that Combs guy said, Well, I'm sure we'll all hear a lot about this and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
You know, going on and on and on.
We're not going to allow this.
It was just really curious how they, you know, it was just interesting to see the slant they put on.
They're blaming it on the liberals.
And by the way, it's going in all over the country.
I know.
And 90 plus percent in Austin are against it.
And the mayor just says, hey, shut up, we're doing it.
And the governor's going to take every major state road, folks.
You're going to have a transponder in your car, two grand to drive on the state roads, 1,800 to drive on Austin's roads.
Folks, I mean, most people I know cannot afford thousands of dollars.
They already don't even have insurance for their children.
I'm sorry, go ahead.
The libertarian gentleman, again, he's from Oregon, and he's an advocate for this.
And he was basically saying, well, don't worry about it.
They're just going to know how many miles you drive.
They won't know where you are.
Oh, that's a fraud, too.
Oh, yeah.
See, now it's libertarian to pay for the roads this way.
It's private companies pay off the government to let them come in and take over your roads, and it is going to increase the price day one when it starts.
Five times the taxes that we have as a national average.
It's like saying people should invest their own money for their old age pensions.
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Paul, I mean, that phenomenon.
So many people, they follow a corrupt Democratic regime or Republican regime.
They won't listen to you about corruption because they associate their personal power with that power structure like they're part of it or something, when that system will squash them like a cockroach.
Yeah, I mean, I think everybody who gets involved in a system like that imagines that it's behind them instead of on top of them.
So how do you get through to one of those people?
Well, I mean, it comes down to, I mean, people are easily bored.
We know that.
It doesn't take that much to win somebody over a little money, quite a little money compared to the kind of money that's being raked in.
I noticed that the Iraqi oil production was up to three million barrels a day.
Forty bucks a barrel, that's quite a lot of money coming in.
Where's that going?
And by the way, they admit that goes to the Federal Reserve.
Who set the Federal Reserve up to get that money?
Well, exactly.
And all the deals have been done.
Halliburton got in there, was able to survey the vast areas that have never been surveyed.
They know exactly where the oil is.
There's more oil in Iraq than there is in Saudi Arabia.
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Unbelievable.
It's just, and Dick Cheney said in the PNAC document, he said, Saddam isn't a threat, it's about oil, and we're going to use Iraq as a launch base to go into other countries.
He says Saddam isn't a threat in the September 2000 document.
They publish it!
Colin Powell said the same thing, and Condoleezza Rice said the same thing.
We've boxed him in, he's not a threat.
And a few months later, they completely turn about faith.
But Dick Cheney said he's not a threat, but we're still going in.
We're going to tell the people he's a threat.
Folks, he writes this and puts it on his own website.
I mean, it's not like it's Richard Clarke saying this, or it's O'Neill saying... Even when they offered the ultimatum that you leave Iraq with your family, with your sons, they were saying at the same time, we're going to go in anyway.
Well, I remember they said, leave, you've got a week.
And then the report came out... At the same time, another branch of the government was saying, we're going in anyway.
Well, it was in the news, British and European news, that they had jets ready to shoot the plane down, and they were saying, yeah, we're going to arrest you once you get there.
It's still not been explained what the Russian ambassador was doing.
A convoy left Baghdad for Damascus, flew to Moscow.
The ambassador turned around immediately and came straight back.
You know, that flight would have needed clearance from the American army.
He could only have been delivering something or someone.
Well, you talked about paying off Republican Guard.
I saw Rumsfeld.
I have it in these stacks of tapes I recorded on the eve of the war.
Look into General Ahmed Hussein, no relation to Saddam, who was the most high-ranking military officer below Saddam, the only one who could give commands to the army.
He agreed to surrender when he did, and agreed to questioning, and then was released, and is now living happily in Syria.
Well, yeah, and they paid these guys off in euros, dollars, and gold.
But Rumsfeld admitted all this, and after the war, the, quote, war, oh, we won this in, you know, a month.
After that, he got on TV and said, I never, we never paid anybody off.
We fought total resistance.
I mean, they change their story every ten seconds.
Yeah, that was why there was no resistance.
I mean, there was no Stalingrad in Baghdad.
Did you see that New York Times article where the White House official says, we're an empire now and we make reality?
Yes.
We'll change reality today, tomorrow, next week, and you're all just bystanders?
We actually control reality?
And so does it matter if we change our story?
That's right.
They've learned that simple lesson that you just tell a lie often enough and powerfully enough through all the media outlets you have.
And you've got a shameless, gutless bunch of journalists.
Well, that's what O'Brien says to Winston as he tortures him.
Yeah, that's right.
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And of course wrote an article for the Globe and Mail of Canada about Hunter S. Thompson saying that he thought the government was behind 9-11 and why they might be after him.
And he's confirmed he was working on the White House underage cowboy rings.
That's a big boo-boo there.
Very suspicious.
So that is confirmed for those that have been bringing up that Skolnick talked about.
Good for Skolnick getting on that.
Chairman Skolnick.
Let's go ahead here and go to Ron in Missouri.
You're on the air with our guest.
Go ahead.
Hello, Alex and Mr. Roberts.
How are you doing?
I'm fine, thank you.
A couple things I wanted to bring up.
I'd like to hear more on the conversion by Saddam and Iraq in 2000 from the U.S.
dollar to the Euro on their oil pricing and the effect it had on Wall Street.
Well, Saddam had actually changed out of the currency.
He was trading oil for Euros and also...
We're good to go.
I think?
But Venezuela was bartering oil for Third World products, so it was sort of out of the system.
And OPEC was seriously considering, as a means of punishing America, converting to two currencies.
And economists estimated that if they'd have just announced
Also, the second thing I wanted to bring up, about two years ago, Alex, I sent you a copy of a newspaper that we received at our warehouse for the company I work for.
Correct.
Right.
It was dated 8-10-2001.
It came in an Israeli package.
I don't know if it was a newspaper of Israel or not or whatever, but there was a picture inset showing two airplanes on a cell phone picture or screen showing two airplanes crashing into a building with the comment Crush America.
Underneath of it.
Do you remember that, Alex?
Yes, I did.
In fact, that was picked up by the news.
Right.
And, you know, the FBI came and confiscated it and so forth and so on.
We never heard anything more about it, but I still kept a copy.
Well, you have Sharon in the Israeli parliament saying in an argument with Perez, which is documented fully, don't worry about America.
The Jews control America.
Correct.
And to me, with the close ties and so forth with Israel, there's no way we couldn't have known about it beforehand.
All right.
I mean, I would add to this, though, that a lot of people perseverate about Israel and Israel controls America.
Well, thank you for the call.
I think it's a mutual merger.
Between the two bodies, what do you think about that?
It goes back to the early days of planning for the State of Israel, when the Zionists, in fact, were by no means sure of getting the territory at all.
And, in fact, Palestine was part of the territory promised to the Sharif of Mecca for his help in fighting the Turks.
Yeah, so Israel's really just kind of... So Israel's been kind of like an aircraft carrier.
It's an aircraft carrier on land.
And NASA...
That's what it is.
When he took over, demonstrated to the other Arabs how phony their independence was.
But when he closed down the canal, within a day, you had British and French paratroopers dropping all over Egypt.
Listen, I've got one more question for you, then we're going to the calls.
You had a sit-down interview with Saddam Hussein.
Describe that for me.
Quite a scary character, I can tell you.
And had all the gimmicks of power.
Very smart man.
You know, self-made, you know, autodidact, but somebody you certainly wouldn't want to cross.
And, you know, I was trying to get more personal things out of him, which he didn't like in the least.
And he was using a translator, but when I remember asking him at one point, did he see himself as a second NASA?
And without the translator, he jumped in, no, I first Saddam.
And I'd heard that his wife was the vice principal of a school, and I thought it was kind of charming that she worked and wasn't in a senior position.
And I mentioned it, and Sudan quickly said, no, she's principal now.
So he speaks English?
Yeah, he certainly understood it well enough to jump in.
Kind of a pigeon English.
No.
But he was extremely intelligent and quite forthright about certain things.
It was still under the impression that he was America's ally at that point.
I mean, they'd sacrificed an enormous amount of
of men and money in that war with Iran and he fully believed that he was helping America out by doing that and was shocked to discover the Iran-Contra business which was when he asked the diplomat who do you want to win this war?
But you can see even in the conversation he has with April Glaspie, the American ambassador, that he's under the impression that he's doing America's dirty work for them.
Yeah, he's on video.
Yeah.
I mean, folks, this is, it's incredible.
And, you know, Saddam left Christians alone.
They thrived in that country.
He was, everyone there will tell you that Saddam was a really great leader until the Iran War, and something changed in him.
And I think he recognized that America was out to get him.
You know, there were constant broadcasts on the, you know, the American Propaganda Network broadcast to the Arabs
...comparing him to Ceausescu.
Somebody sent him copies of the tapes of the interrogation of Ceausescu and his execution just to unnerve him.
He says in a meeting with a number of American congressmen that he's very upset by these comparisons, and could they please stop it?
So they're sending him snuff films?
Hey, buddy, this is what's going to... And my point is, I'm not defending... Reagan lobbied the Congress not to censure Saddam for the slaughter that was going on at that time.
Yeah.
Let me just say something about this.
Let me just say something.
I mean, this is important.
Again, I'm not defending Saddam Hussein, folks, but compared to these other Arab leaders, I mean, Saudi Arabia, you talk about evil.
They make him look like a choir boy.
Saudi Arabia makes Iraq look like paradise.
I mean, it's a total hellhole.
But, I mean, if an American pokes their nose out of a compound, it gets blown off.
But these are our buddies in Bush, you know, in his daddy vacation there.
I mean, literally, they, like, have houses there.
That's how sick this is.
And then you look at 1953, the democratically elected leader...
Of Iran, anti-communist, man of the year, Time Magazine.
Mosaddegh.
They said, you will give us all of your oil, or we're going to kick you out.
Yeah, Mosaddegh.
And he said, no, we're going to keep some of it for our country.
And the CIA threw him out and put the shine.
But listen, I heard Kermit Roosevelt, the grandson, on...
On NPR a few months ago, from the grave.
It was an old interview.
And they admitted, on the show, that, oh yeah, we went and bombed stuff and shot people and hired 2,000 thugs and blamed the terror attacks on Mosaddegh and then threw him out.
I mean, folks!
They've caused all these problems.
Iran was our ally and, you know, was non-fundamentalist and was our friend, and we threw them out.
No, it was the encouraging of fundamentalist Islam in countries like Egypt and Saudi Arabia that created the universities where a lot of these extremists have been trained.
The Washington Post reported the millions of dollars of radical hadiths, our government sending the textbooks...
Paying, making them, telling Arab children to kill Americans.
That's right.
And again, that goes back, have you heard about P2OG?
Yep.
This is the Pentagon office, folks, for those who don't know, where Rumsfeld says, we're going to go kill innocent Arabs to get them to make more enemies.
Comments on that?
Well, you look at the whole train of events that starts with the encouragement of fundamentalist Islam as a bulwark against communism, then goes to the training of the Mujahideen in Afghanistan, and there's a direct path there to 9-1-1.
I somehow don't buy the existence of Al-Qaeda on the level that it's supposed to exist.
It would be far easier to take down if it existed on that level.
It's a CIA shadow group with CIA officers in some cases manipulating useful idiots to carry out real attacks and then giant orchestrated theatrical events like 9-11 have nothing to do with Al-Qaeda.
Let's take a few final calls here.
Let's talk to...
Tim in Oklahoma, or is it David?
Who's up next?
David in Arizona.
Go ahead.
Hello, Alex.
How are you today?
Good.
Good.
I think you might be interested to know that I recently worked in a Homeland Security office.
I've been doing a little moonlighting lately for a temporary staffing service.
They're setting up a new office over here on, I don't know if you want the address, it's 4909 East McDowell, Suite 106, Phoenix, Arizona.
Talk right into your telephone.
Yes, they're setting up a new FEMA office here, Homeland Security, in Phoenix.
And I initially almost turned down the offer, but I thought, well, maybe it'd be a good idea to go over there and see what's going on.
Well, they were unloading truck after truck after truck,
Yeah, these are the federalization offices.
These are the real city governments to sit above the city governments being put in.
Yes, they are.
And it's very obvious to me that they're in a big hurry.
Well, what were the placards?
I tried to write them down, but I didn't have time.
It looked like a bunch of security chiefs.
Network security, property security.
I'm trying to remember from rote memory here.
You have thousands of these private security people in Iraq performing security tasks for everyone from Halliburton to Ahmed Chalabi.
How big is this facility?
Well, it's not very large.
It's kind of an old, dilapidated office building, and it's obvious that they're looking for cheap places to set up shop real quick.
All these are going to be CIA nest of evil in all your towns.
Thanks for the call.
I really appreciate it, David.
Tim in Oklahoma.
Tim, go ahead.
You're on the air, Tim.
Right now.
Hey, what's up, Alex?
We're doing a radio show.
What's on your mind?
Hunter S. Thompson, a lot of other things.
Really, the Hunter S. Thompson thing really, really scares me.
Because, really, it's about freedom of speech.
It goes into Ward Churchill.
One of my friends blogged something, which includes...
Mr. Robert's Globe and Mail article about, I've only got the first paragraph or some part of the paragraph.
I know, I'm talking about Hunter S. Thompson saying government involvement 9-11.
We've got the writer on right now.
What's on your mind?
Well, the first thing is, when I found out that happened, I started rereading Kingdom of Fear.
Yeah, this is Hunter's last program.
We're just going to have to wrap the show up with our guests here.
You're going to have to go the whole show with us.
There's five more minutes with us, Paul Roberts, and you can finish up when we get back, Tim, but you've got to get to it because I want to talk to Jeremy and Steve or Stan.
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You can read the article he wrote about Hunter Thompson and 9-11.
Right there at Globe and Mail's website.
We've got fragments of it on my website, infowars.com and prisonplanet.com.
But yes, sir, if you mail me the video you shot in Iraq, we'll put it on the website if you'd like.
I certainly will.
We'll post that for folks to watch it, and I really look forward to getting a copy of your book.
If you send me a review copy, I'd like to have you on specifically about the book, A War Against Truth, which people can get via the Internet.
It's not published here in the U.S., but it is, again, award-winning and sounds excellent.
What's that website in Canada, again, where people in the U.S.
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It's Amazon.ca rather than .com.
But it's not on the dot com, huh?
I don't think it is on the dot com.
My other books are on the dot com.
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There's another book on Iraq, in fact, called The Demonic Comedy.
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There's a book on Iran.
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Let's go back real quick, Tim.
Finish your comment.
Yeah.
The whole thing about the Hunter S. Thompson thing is he may have said since the 70s he wanted to kill himself, but I don't believe that right now
He would have wanted to do that because everybody knew that... Oh yeah, that plays into it if people talk like that.
Listen, thanks for the call.
Let's talk to Jeremy in Florida.
Jeremy, are you there?
Go ahead, you're on the air.
Hello?
Yeah, yeah, you're on the air.
Yeah, I was wondering if you've ever seen the movie Enemy of the State with Will Smith?
Go ahead.
Yes.
You know John Boyd's character in there who's really pushing for the movie version of the Patriot Act?
Yes.
In the movie, his birthday is 9-11-1940.
No, I know.
And they started building the Pentagon on 9-11.
It goes on and on, yeah.
Okay, and yesterday I heard you talk about people denying black helicopters, and it's pretty funny because after you said that, I actually saw my first black helicopter fly right over with no markings, no serial number.
All they are are special operations night mission helicopters.
It's just a...
It's just people still, the media says you're a kook.
If you talk about them, you can go to military bases and see hundreds of them lined up.
Uh-huh.
Yeah, I mean, you saw a dozen every couple of hours in Baghdad.
Well, they don't exist, even if you videotape them.
Thanks for the call, Jeremy.
Let's talk to Steve in New York.
Last caller, go ahead.
Hello, how are you doing, Alex?
Good.
You're doing a great job down there.
Thank you.
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Well, hugs and kisses to you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Bye now.
Take care, my friend.
We're flat out of time.
Sorry I didn't have time to take more of your calls.
I'll be back tonight, 9 to midnight, and back tomorrow, 11 to 2.
And don't forget, tomorrow, because I've had so many requests for last...
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So many requests to re-air that one about all these occult buildings and how our capitals are built with these occult specifications.
It's now admitted that we're going to re-air that the second two hours tomorrow, so tell your friends and family, everybody to tune in.
Again, Paul William Roberts, a real pleasure having you on, my friend.
Pleasure was all mine, and you've got a great show there, and you're doing great work.
Well, thanks for spending two and a half hours with us.
It was a real pleasure.
And I look forward to talking to you in the future.
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I'll email your assistant.
All right.
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