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Big Brother.
Mainstream media.
Government cover-ups.
You want answers?
Well, so does he.
He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
All right, my friends, already Thursday, the ninth day of September 2004, as we accelerate towards the three-year anniversary of the military-industrial complex New World Order attacks on Lower Manhattan.
Thank you again so much for joining us on this Thursday edition.
We have Dr. Breeding joining us in the second hour.
Talk about forced mental screening for all Americans.
And it's now hitting a roadblock in the House of Representatives.
Headline from World Net Daily, also on prisonplanet.com and infowars.com.
Forced mental screening hits roadblock in the House.
Representative Ron Paul seeks to yank program decries use of drugs on children.
And so we'll go over this lengthy article before we get Dr. Breeding on.
This is a big, big deal.
Also, another article here.
Second Amendment activists.
And it says, no, these lines in the United States says school gun ban leaves the nation vulnerable to Russian-type tragedy.
Well, that's the whole point of this.
Why do you think George Bush won't arm the airline pilots?
They can let them fly around in a $80 million, $50 million machine with hundreds of people on board, with hundreds of switches, most of them former military, but they can't be armed.
I know the NRA told you Bush did arm the pilots, which is not true.
He blocked it until there was an outrage so loud that even Democrats joined in.
And that's right, even Dianne Feinstein said, yeah, go ahead and arm the pilots.
More conservative than Bush.
I'm serious.
I'm serious.
And Bush said, okay, if you can jump through a bunch of hoops, we'll arm 2% of you.
And none of them have really been armed.
Unfortunately, a car bomb near Embassy in Indonesia kills seven.
We'll get into that.
The intelligence report put out by the Southern Poverty Law Center said,
Talks about evil conspiracy theorists that the government was behind 9-11.
You mean like the Zogby poll and half of New Yorkers?
So we'll be covering that as well.
And I'm really getting sick of this focus on Vietnam.
There's going to be all these TV ads about how Bush was AWOL and all these other ads about Kerry writing his own medals.
It's all true, but compared to all the crimes going on now and what these guys are up to and their agendas, that's what really matters.
But no, we're not talking about the war right now that's claimed over a thousand troops, 500 contractors, and tens of thousands of Iraqis.
We're talking about a war that ended 30 plus years ago.
35 years ago.
Why is that?
This is the art of destruction and diversion, so you're welcome to call in and discuss that as well.
New ad takes aim at Bush's National Guard service, and yeah, Bush has lied about it, and yeah, all the documents have come out, and yeah, he was AWOL for over a year, and yeah, he's a co-kid, and yeah, it's all true, and that's all part of being conservative, folks.
Also, Dr. Dennis Cuddy weighs in on this forced...
Mental health screening.
He says mental health and world citizenship.
Same stuff's going on in Europe and England.
This is all part of the new Big Brother control system.
So we'll be covering it all after this quick break.
The toll-free number to join us on air is 1-800-259-9231.
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Update on that as well.
You did a great job.
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Big Brother.
Mainstream Media.
Government Cover-Ups.
You want answers?
Well, so does he.
He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
All right, we're going to go to your calls early in...
This first hour, the toll-free number to join us is 800-259-9231.
And again, I'm Alex Jones, your host.
On InfoWars.com right now, from Ron Paul, an article by Ron Storm about Ron Paul from WorldNet, Neocon Daily.
Forced mental screening hits roadblock in-house.
Representative Ron Paul seeks to yank program decries use of drugs on children.
Now, we've read the actual New Freedom program, what, two months ago on air.
We've read the documents on air.
We've read the British Medical Association's comments on it, calling it a brave new world.
Every child in the country, public or private, will be forcibly psychologically tested according to new guidelines, hundreds of new mental illnesses, forcibly drugged.
This is the reality.
And George Bush, as usual, is behind it.
If it's a big government, if it's pure evil...
He's behind it, and conservatives absolutely love it.
So-called conservatives.
The same folks that cheered Arnold, who's for open borders, abortion on demand, who is for the gay marriage, the same guy who is for all this gun control, and just involved in Enron, so he saves you from Enron.
You just cheer him, and you love him, and you don't let the facts get in the way.
And it says, Representative Ron Paul, Republican Texas, plans to offer an amendment in the House of Representatives today that will remove from any appropriations bill a new mandatory mental health screening program for America's children.
Let me stop right there.
It gets worse.
We've read the plan.
I'm looking at the Chicago Tribune here.
We first reported on this a month ago, but now it's in the Chicago Tribune.
Where, when you go into the hospital to have your baby, they send in social workers, whether you're rich, poor, black, white, old, young, and force you to have psychological testing, and the guidelines have been written by Eli Lilly and others, a consortium, right here in Texas, in a pilot program that started in the early 1990s, right here in Austin.
Ten states now do it.
The states are already doing it.
This new program will massively fund it, make it mandatory in all 50.
The American tradition of parents deciding what is best for their children is yet again under attack, writes Kent Snyder of the Paul Foundation Liberty Committee.
The pharmacological industry has convinced President Bush to support mandatory mental health screening for every child in America, including preschool children.
That's right.
Everyone will get a CPS visit.
And the industry is now working to convince Congress as well.
And it says, the new Freedom Initiative recommends screening not only for children, but eventually for every American.
Already starting in Illinois.
A new law about to pass at state level.
The initiative came out of the new Freedom Commission on Mental Health, which President Bush established in 2002.
But the original organization was founded in 1992 in Austin, Texas.
Critics of the plan say it is a thinly veiled attempt, it's not thinly veiled, by drug companies to provide a wider market for high-priced antidepressants and antipsychotics medication and puts government in areas of America's lives where it does not belong.
Right, Snyder?
The real payoff of the drug companies is the forced drugging of children that will result, as we learn, tragically, with Ritalin even when parents refuse.
Now, again,
The guidelines were admittedly written by a consortium of eight drug companies led by Eli Lilly.
And all the drugs they recommend in it just so happen to be all the new expensive ones that are $10 a pill.
Some of them are more.
And this is what they're going to do.
They've got the initiative.
They've got the plan.
It's going to go into all 50 states unless we stop it and say no.
And then they are openly going to declare your child mentally ill.
They'll call your 12-year-old in and say, you get depressed.
You get angry sometimes.
Well, what 12-year-old doesn't?
And so, okay, well, we've got the new school psychiatrist paid for with this federal grant.
And they say you're mentally ill, and so now your child gets a designation as mentally ill and loses their rights for life.
If they can't get you on welfare into the system, they'll get you into the criminal justice system.
If they can't do that, they'll get you into the mental health system.
This is the Soviet Union.
And when I was in New York, it was on News 1, it was on the radio.
We even went there.
Bellevue, the famous mental institution in New York, huge building.
They took the leaders of the protest to the mental institution, hundreds of them.
They would arrest you at permitted protest.
You heard the American Spectator reporter yesterday, a conservative at a permitted protest, in a suit and tie with congressional passes, arrested.
The Secret Service screened him, admitted he was innocent, and they still put him in jail.
Folks, they ship people to a mental institution.
This is the new America.
Remember three years ago, I had that honor roll student on from...
Temple University, who was even a Bill Clinton staffer, but was conservative, and they had the school play, Corpus Christi, where Christ is a homosexual prostitute, and then Christians were offended, so they got their own time, their own stage, they had their own rally against it, and school officials suddenly canceled it and said,
Called him in with the security guards, and the dean said, drop your request for this.
He said no, so they tackled him and put him in the school mental institution.
The doctors said he wasn't mentally ill, refused to force drug him, and they released him.
But he almost disappeared.
This is the new America, folks.
I can't tell you how many listeners have given police copies of my videos, shown it at their college, and who are arrested and put in mental institutions.
Most get out in a day or two.
Others are still in there.
Every week.
And I'm not trying to scare you.
It's the new America.
We can cower to this and shut up to this and go along with this, or we can start being put in mental institutions.
It's the Soviet Union, folks.
This is not a joke.
They've arrested tens of thousands of Falun Gong, just these peaceful Buddhists in China, and they put them in mental institutions.
The top Chinese scientist who worked for the government who said that the Chinese government was covering up the SARS.
They put him in for six months and released him, quote, after he'd been re-educated.
They admitted they brainwashed him, drugged him, tortured him.
He was all ready to say he was sorry afterwards.
Dr. Charles T. Sell, Army doctor, Army dentist, hired at Waco to identify.
He was there on day 51.
Quote, because there was going to be a fire, they told him, and they burned it down and killed the people.
And he talked about it, and the FBI had dropped by and said, well, we heard you're threatening people, which he didn't do.
And seven years later, he's in solitary confinement under forced drugging, quote, getting him ready for trial for Medicaid fraud, which the maximum sentence was one year in jail.
No trial, no nothing.
He's just in a prison on drugs, on antipsychotics.
For seven years now.
And so we can just sit here and go along with this, or we can scream bloody murder and say no.
You see?
And it's for everybody.
It's not just those that fight the New World Order.
It's not just those that fight the New World Order.
It's people that serve it.
It's going to be every one of you.
The entire economy is going to be prisons, security, giant mental institutions for struggling.
This is the official government plan.
This is not a free market economy.
This is a tyrannical plutocracy that is predatory.
And the globalists, the small group of families that own things, are threatened by free market.
They're threatened by you owning businesses and companies.
But they own the prisons, they own the mental health systems, they own Big Pharma, they own the military-industrial complex, they own the media, and now they're shifting over and they're going to force you all into their systems.
And as more and more jobs are lost, as the economy implodes under the free trade area of the Americas and the Pan-American Union that goes into law January 1st, the average person knows nothing about it,
Under that, as more and more people lose their jobs, it's going to pressurize people.
Now all the big new majors at universities are Homeland Security, Security.
They've even got classes called New World Order, a Pentagon's new map.
Everything is shifting into this, into security and law enforcement and criminology and psychology and in law.
And so the economy, now that we have gone to this post-industrial phase, yeah, it's going to be a service economy, a police state grid.
And so people are going to want jobs, and so half of society, like a Kurt Vonnegut book, dystopic novel, half of the population are going to be controllers, or minions of the controllers, and the other half are going to be prisoners.
Now, you think I'm joking.
I'm not.
Toll roads everywhere.
No freedom.
Everything tracked and traced.
Taxation at 84%, the Congressional Budget Office's own numbers, projected for 2010.
Total enslavement.
This has been the norm in world history, and you're about to have it.
You're about to get it.
The good news is, half of New Yorkers in a major Zogby poll believe the government was behind 9-11.
Not just had prior knowledge.
The good news is, is in six months, that number will be 70% on the projections I've got.
The good news is people are waking up to this.
The good news is our numbers are exploding.
The good news is people have committed themselves to this fight come hell or high water.
But the hair limp the Admiral.
We are going all the way.
And most people in government aren't bad.
Most FBI aren't bad.
Most police aren't bad.
Most military aren't bad.
Most school teachers aren't bad.
They've been ignorant like everybody else.
They've been compartmentalized.
They heard us warn them years ago.
They laughed at us.
Now they're watching it happen.
Now they're seeing it happen.
Now they know where their children's future lies if they don't stand up and join us in liberty and freedom and transparency and decency and honor.
Corruption has gone to seed.
Our civilization is in danger!
Humanity's future is in the crosshairs!
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You know, I love the Mark Twain quote about how in the beginning a patriot is a scarce man, hated and feared and scorned, but in time when his cause succeeds, the timid join him.
Because then it costs nothing to be a patriot.
And that's really what it all boils down to.
It was hard to get on the air on the morning of 9-11 and say that the globalists had carried it out.
It was hard to get on air and say, don't give money to the Red Cross and United Way.
It goes to gun control groups on the morning of 9-11.
Now, of course, that all came out and turned out to be true because I already knew what they'd done in the past in Oklahoma City and other cases.
It was hard to get on the air and tell you that George Bush isn't a conservative.
It's hard to get on the air and talk about how our world leaders are devil worshippers, but we have the facts and now it's even mainstream news.
It's hard to tell the truth sometimes, but long term it's much worse to lie to yourself, to lie to your family, and to be a coward.
When you're a coward, people push you around.
When you're a timid individual, you get shoved to the back.
And, you know, the Bible says the meek inherit the earth, but you look at that translation, I've talked to a lot of pastors, you look at the Greek, it means really those that aren't prideful.
The Bible's full of examples of prophets and leaders boldly standing up against evil.
That's what we're supposed to do.
But by meek, it means that you're not on some power trip getting off on controlling others.
Frankly, I'm embarrassed of the power I have.
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It makes me feel this great responsibility.
It's embarrassing to me.
I don't enjoy it.
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Yes, Alex.
Talking about psychiatry.
I got shot in the head, and they intuitionalized me, and they've intuitionalized me 14 times, and I have a list of here of side effects of just one medication alone.
Everything from vomiting to drowsiness to loss of appetite, nervousness, sleeplessness, headache, nausea, constipation, sensitivity to light.
In other words, you're just a vegetable, and psychiatrists originate from Sigmund Freud, a German Nazi.
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All right, sir.
Thanks for the call, Pat.
And we'll be getting into how every American will sit down twice a year and be screened by government psychiatrists, publicly paid for by the big drug companies.
Who's up next, Scott?
Donna and Mass.
You're on the air, Donna.
Hi, Alex.
The reason I'm calling is that I had to go up against my police chief in court the other day because he had denied my permit to carry a firearm.
He had denied your privilege card.
Yes, he did.
Well, I'm a 26-year veteran.
Before I was enlightened, I was involved in Golf World One.
And my husband is a highly decorated Vietnam vet.
And, I mean, we're just ordinary people.
But he denied me.
Saying that I was unsuitable because of my husband's extensive war record.
And I found this very interesting.
It's the damned if you do, damned if you don't.
Oh, you didn't see the documents right before Bill Clinton left?
They transferred all records on veterans into the mental health system of Health and Human Services and into the NICS system, and they're now denying veterans with no criminal record or mental record their capacity to buy firearms?
Well, um, and just... I tell you what, stay there, man, because I'm fully aware of this.
I want folks, I want you to tell us the name of your police chief where you live and how he told you, because your husband has an extensive war record, you can't have a gun here in this new free country we live in.
But in Saddam Hussein's Iraq, anyone could own a gun, man, woman, or child.
That's why they had to get rid of him.
He was their agent, but he was too lenient.
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All right, we're talking to Donna in Mass, Massachusetts.
I never can pronounce that right.
And Donna, just to give folks some background here, okay?
Well, I mean, tell us about the town you're in, the police chief, what his lordship said to you.
Okay.
Okay.
I live in Swansea, Massachusetts.
The police chief is a man named George Arruda.
A-R-R-U-D-A.
Arruda.
And I know he hasn't liked my husband for quite some time.
My husband has been toe-to-toe with him verbally on a couple of occasions.
But, you know, my husband is a highly decorated war vet.
And he served his country well.
He's had a business here for 30 years, a well-respected business.
And I just went into...
We submit for my permit to carry a firearm.
And I've had one for many years.
I mean, I need one because of the hours I travel to do my work.
Sometimes it's 3 o'clock in the morning.
Everybody needs a gun, especially if you own a business.
Oh, yes.
I mean, I couldn't imagine running a business knowing I could be robbed any minute.
Hey, cops, how would you like having your guns taken when you're on duty?
Yeah, yeah.
But I was denied, so I appealed.
And I had a hearing last week.
The interesting thing about this hearing is that I approached the bench with my attorney and he was questioning, my attorney was questioning the police chief before the judge and myself and he was caught lying blatantly at least three times by my attorney.
And he made an interesting statement.
He stated that sometime in 1999, and he could not identify the date or anything, he said that
...had attended a mental health facility for an evaluation, which is totally untrue.
And I said, where did he get it?
He just made it up.
And this is what these guys do.
Well, no, that's what this new Freedom Initiative is.
We're all going to be screened twice a year, children and adults.
But let me stop you for a minute and give folks some background.
Okay.
In Vermont, they have carry it well, if you're not a felon,
Concealed carry, open carry, Second Amendment is alive in that state.
That is really one of the only states that it's still there.
In Texas, they come out many years ago and go, Oh, they've had concealed carry in other states.
It makes the crime rate drop on average by 24%, which is true.
Let's have a concealed carry.
But at that point, they changed the law.
Where if I don't have a concealed carry, I can't even buy a handgun in a gun shop and drive it home.
It's up to their discretion.
The law says this.
Rifles you can still have in your car, shotguns loaded, hidden in plain view, whatever.
And so what they do nationwide is they take a right and turn it into a privilege.
And 30, 40 years ago, depending on what area of the East, or Illinois, like Chicago, other big cities and states,
They said, don't worry, you can still own a gun, just come get a permit.
It's a little $20 fee or $5 fee.
People said, okay, I'm law-abiding, I'll do that.
So liquor store owners and 7-Eleven owners and owners of roller rinks, whatever, car dealerships, banks, they all went and they got guns.
Or gun permits for guns they already have.
Then they started raising the price, saying, oh, there's a class you've got to take every ten years to have it.
Oh, now it's every year.
Oh, now we don't offer the class anymore.
Well, now it's up to the police chief or sheriff.
They decide.
Until areas like New York, literally, the thousands of people that have got gun permits are known mobsters, Hollywood people, anyone who gives $10,000, $20,000 to the sheriff, re-election campaigner, to the mayor, they get a permit, even if they're felons.
And then the citizens can't get them.
Okay.
So this turns a right into a privilege.
That's why I'm against permitted concealed carries.
It's turning a right into a privilege.
It's a very evil process.
Now, before the break, last segment, you also said that he said because your husband has an extensive war record.
Can you tell us exactly what your would-be ruler said?
Well, he stated before the judge, he said...
Mrs. Dunn's husband has a very extensive war record and, you know, he was involved in black operations, blah, blah, blah.
I mean, and a derogatory mayor.
Oh, and don't worry.
For all the folks doing black operations right now, secret ops in the U.S.
and overseas, see, this is going to happen to you.
87,000 in the first transfer of files, and it was even more before Bill Clinton left office than Bush continued it, of veterans, especially special forces, went into a huge mental health and the NICS database.
You're good to go.
Then grandpas go to buy their 15-year-old grandson's .22 rifles and are told, sorry, Nix says you have a problem.
They write letters and find out they're listed as mentally ill.
And now there's hundreds of new mental illness designations, and they're going to test all the children, all the adults in the new Freedom Initiative, and they're going to say we're all mentally ill and we can't own guns.
So again, if they can't get you in the welfare system under their control, if they can't get you in the criminal justice system,
Yeah, so I am not going to get an answer on this for about a week.
I spoke to my attorney last night.
He believes it went well only because he did catch this police chief, this police chief,
And lie at least three times.
Yeah, you need to bring the case back up, and it need be sue the police chief for false statements, defamation of character, and say, show where I've been in the mental institution.
Right.
Right.
Well, this is the new thing.
I mean, this is the new Soviet America.
This is what they do.
Well, we have to keep fighting, even if it's just on your local level here.
Yeah, and when I went in for this permit, it was $100 for me to renew.
Exactly.
And they knew good and well they were not going to reissue my permit.
They knew it.
And after all that, and then, you know, another $800 for the appeal to pay a lawyer and all this stuff.
And the interesting thing is, I was watching the judge's face.
And
As many times as this police chief was caught outright lying, she did not bat an eye.
Well, we talked to the American Spectator writer, conservative, who was arrested for no reason in New York last week.
I was there as he was being arrested, we learned yesterday.
I didn't even know that.
I've been at that particular arrest from a distance, but videotaping it.
You know, hours later, police that weren't even there came and just filled out the arrest report on him and just made stuff up.
So, I mean, just lying has become institutional.
Ma'am, I'm sorry, but how long did you serve in the military?
Well, I'm in my 26th year now.
I'm trying to retire from my Air National Guard unit.
They've been wanting to send me to various places.
And you were in the first Gulf War?
Yes, I was.
And I, I mean, I...
I re-qualify with the military every year on the M16, on the 9mm.
I'm very well versed on the usage of the weapon.
I hear you.
Thanks for the call.
I appreciate it.
I'm sorry, Donna.
Look, you can have airline pilots, the most skilled people, frankly, out there of any industry, most of them former fighter pilots, bomber pilots...
You know, no criminal record, have had psychological testing, hundreds of switches, tens of thousands of hours in aircraft, and they can't have a gun.
They can't have a gun.
This is for everybody.
And all these poor so-called conservatives have lobbied for concealed carry.
You've lobbied to stick your head in the noose.
Thanks a lot.
And I've been criticized by concealed permit holders.
Well, Alex, it's better than nothing, and I've got to have this to protect myself.
If you put all your energy into getting a Vermont-style law into your state, we'd be reversing things.
But you always compromise.
But it's not a compromise.
We never go in the other direction towards the Second Amendment and freedom.
It's always the other direction!
It's like a tug-of-war.
The globalists keep dragging us over the edge of the cliff, and you call that compromise.
It's not.
Ron in New York, you're on the air.
Hi, Alex.
Go ahead.
That was an interesting subject your last caller brought up.
The fact of the matter is, and I've called you about this before, is there have always been, in their aggressive attempts to try and define things as an adjudication of mental defect, that are not if someone goes out and seeks some psychiatric treatment for a problem, minor depression and so forth,
That is not an adjudication of mental defect, yet they're trying to equate that to an adjudication.
And let me add this.
The media, the culture, the sitcoms, the dramas...
You know, the Sopranos, they all promote going to the shrink, going to the psychologist, where everybody thinks it's the cool thing to do.
Meanwhile, they're setting it up where you lose all your rights if you do it.
It will destroy your civil liberties.
But the worst part about it is the statutes read, at least the federal statutes, there has to be an adjudication.
An adjudication is a very specific, very formal, very defined process.
Even under the regulations of something like the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms, there are still certain minimums that have to occur, but they're getting so out of hand with it that what they're trying to do is just say, you know, someone goes to a mental health provider for some treatment, some minor treatment.
But, sir, Donna didn't even go to anybody.
He just made it up.
Yeah, well, sure, the guy is an absolute out-and-out liar, obviously, from what she said, or trying to hold, this is another strange thing, trying to hold her husband or transmute her husband's honorable military service into something negative, and I really don't know how that's germane to Donna in any event.
Donna's going for the permit, not her husband, but they do that here where I live, too, in New York.
What they'll do...
The license issuing officer in this agency will deprive you of the license if you are involved in civil litigation, whether as plaintiff or defendant.
Now, that has no relevance to anything if you're suing somebody because you tripped on a sidewalk or you're getting sued because somebody tripped on a sidewalk in front of your house.
They are denying people who have diabetes.
These permits?
I don't see the relevance of that.
Again, this is all insane.
The public is generally not aware of this.
Well, I don't think people remember Pennsylvania.
The guy has heart palpitations, business owner, no criminal record, goes in and says, I drink a six-pack most nights.
I don't drink and drive, but I drink a six-pack at night.
Should I stop?
And the doctor calls and has his license revoked, and the judge says, yeah, you can't have a license anymore because you drink.
Yeah, I believe, as a matter of fact, if I'm not mistaken, isn't it Indiana that case came up in?
And that was recent, too.
That was another one in Pennsylvania.
Yeah, there was one in Indiana about one or two weeks back as well.
They had an old law dating back to 1968.
Where your physician has to notify the Department of Motor Vehicles in the state of Indiana if you admit to him that you drink.
Now, if the guy's not drinking and driving, then again, what is the relevance of it?
He's consuming a lawful beverage.
If you want outlaw liquor, outlaw liquor, but it's lawful.
So long as he doesn't indicate that he drinks and drives or he drives while he's intoxicated, I don't know.
Oh, no, the hospital admits the guy said he didn't drink and drive.
Then this is all insane.
Do you understand the rule of reason?
Well, let me stop you.
It's not insane.
If you're, you know, the 13 families of the New World Order, the mafia families, and you want to get everybody into your private prisons that you own, or into your mental health system that you own, you just list everyone as evil.
Well, you know what, Alex?
It's insane in that these people who are controlling, or this controlling alagok, they're insane.
They're out of their minds, or evil to the point of insanity.
They're evil.
It is insane.
Well, Ron...
Ron, that's absolutely right.
And I just want military people to listen to me out there.
They send you to Iraq.
You breathe the uranium.
You're given experimental vaccines.
You come back here to have your benefits cut.
You know, this is the new America.
This is what is happening.
And I want to tell this story.
About five years ago, I've got it on tape somewhere around here.
I play clips on my local cable show.
The Discovery Channel had a show called Inside.
Inside Nuclear Submarines.
Inside NORAD.
Inside LAPD was the particular sub-show.
And this Korean War veteran had died.
He'd been dead for a week.
And listeners always call in who saw this.
They re-air it all the time.
I've even seen it on again about a year ago.
And this old guy had died.
I got so mad, folks.
I literally just puffed up and turned red when I watched this.
And they pull up at his house.
The neighbor said he hadn't been out in a week.
They smelled something.
He was a widower.
And they pull up to the middle class house.
He lived alone.
There's the old Bronco.
And he had a Korean War veteran sticker on his car and an NRA sticker.
And the cops, young thugs, stand with tattoos and shaved heads, literal gang members, scary guys, folks, the type of bouncer that grabs on your wife when you go in a bar.
And they go, look at this, he's dangerous, he's some type of survivalist, because he has an NRA sticker.
They go in the house, and the guy had ten guns.
M1, Grand, a couple rifles.
And they go, look at this, look at this kook, look at this dangerous person.
This guy thinks you're allowed to own guns.
Well, he is, but it doesn't mean he's not dangerous.
And they make fun of his dead body.
They make fun of his stink.
This is on national TV.
A dead veteran who died of a heart attack, they later learn.
And then the cops openly, on television, go, this one's mine, no, that one's mine, and start arguing over who gets to keep what guns.
Which one of the parasites get to steal his property?
And let me tell you, I felt very violent at that point.
Here is a dead veteran's body being desecrated by young scumbags as they openly steal his guns.
It was like Clockwork Orange or something.
And they're making fun of his dead body and making fun of his stink.
Now what is wrong with you people?
Who have they hired?
Yes?
Alex?
The irony of it is, is that they would have the audacity to even behave that way, knowing that they're being filmed.
That's how out of hand it's gotten.
No, no, that's what I'm saying.
They'll get up on the stand and lie, and it's no big deal.
I was in a government meeting last night.
It was pell-mell lying.
We had the documents.
Well, that's it.
We don't have a system anymore.
You know what we have?
The vulgar rule of power.
I think the punctuation mark on the collapse of the system is what happened at the Republican convention a week ago.
I think that proves it right there, that it no longer matters what the facts are or what the law is.
That's just a lot of scenery.
That's just to make it look, the candy coating to make it look nice.
They're just going to do what they want.
And that's it.
Yeah, isn't it freedom to have cops manhandle you, slam you around, break your cameras when you've got congressional press passes, arresting AP reporters, Reuters reporters, Pacifica reporters, American Spectator reporters?
Just for no reason!
And you know something else, Alex?
You mentioned something, and I want to bring this to the attention of the audience, because I don't think most people are old enough to know or remember this.
The haircuts that you referred to, the shaved head haircuts.
Though I get my hair cut short, too.
I realized something.
I checked into that.
Do you know where that style started?
The Romans, so somebody couldn't grab your hair.
Well, you know, all right, that's ancient history.
Do you know in more recent history who was encouraged to do that?
Nazis.
Of course.
It was called the Prussian haircut for many years.
I don't know if you recall that time.
No, no, my grandfather always had that haircut.
You need to have a good Prussian haircut.
You remember the term Prussian?
The Nazis used it.
They felt it made their people, the young people, their soldiers, look more vicious and mean.
Well, plus, somebody can't grab your hair.
That's where it came from.
Hey, thanks for the call.
We'll be right back.
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Yes, sir.
I wanted to call with just a brief update that I got this morning about this new freedom initiative.
I don't know if you saw or got in your email box a WorldNet Daily article.
Yeah, I have it.
It's on Infowars.com right now.
Okay.
There's even more info at the LibertyCommittee.org, Ron Paul's website.
Yeah.
The House is, as far as I know, blocking the funding of it.
That's not true.
A bill's been introduced to block it.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Yeah.
And thank goodness for...
John Breeding, he has an email list, and he sent that alert yesterday.
Yeah, we crashed John Breeding's website by linking to it.
It was down last time I checked with a server overload as the message.
Oh, no.
But you can get the World Net Daily and the Ron Paul information off InfoWars.com right now.
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Dr. Breeding's coming up.
You can talk to him.
We'll take other calls.
Stay with us.
Alex... Big Brother...
Hello, folks.
You want answers?
Well, so does he.
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Alright folks, Dr. John Breeding is coming up here in a few minutes to talk about the new Freedom Initiative.
Ron Paul's introduced a bill to block it.
All school children and all adults forcibly psychologically tested twice a year.
Women, when they give birth, psychologically tested.
Your whole life screened and controlled and tracked.
The new Soviet States of America, that's coming up.
Also, we'll be getting into some of the new police state developments as well and what's happening in Iraq.
Also, the election heating up.
Right now, let's go back to the calls.
We'll go back to Andrea once we get Dr. Breeding on, because she has some comments and questions for him.
But let's go to Ed in Utah right now.
Ed in Utah, you're on the air.
Go ahead.
Thanks a lot, Alex.
I want to make just an overview comment on some of the things you've been discussing with this police state, which of course was brought about by 9-11, if you will.
In other words, the psychological reaction, too many of these conservatives giving up their rights.
And what I'm seeing here, you've brought up a lot of the Project for a New American Century, which of course was exposed as being the project to remake the Middle East.
Condoleezza Rice confirmed this in Portland yesterday.
I don't know if she did that intentionally or if it was a loose lip, but she talked about in the execution, Alex, of the Iraq War that, quote, we did not expect such a fierce insurgency resistance.
So, the pattern I'm seeing here... And last week, Bush said, the war on terror is a war we can't win.
Yes, there you go.
So, it's going back and forth.
Now, here's my pattern, and here's why I called.
Here you have Chalabi connected to the nephew.
Now again, Shalabi's the torture master for the Shah, the abetted bank robber of our ally Jordan, and now suddenly he's on the outs, supposedly giving intel to Iran and Israel.
Exactly.
And this is where I'm going with this.
You have the Israeli spy scandal...
You know, I actually support Israel, but I don't support Israel arming Iran, arming China, spying on us.
That's the point.
The people running Israel don't care about Israel.
They're globalists.
Yeah, but Alex, when you look at the USA Today and CBS, now coming out with the Doug Feith connection to this, that's important because I talked to you once before about The High Priest of War.
That's the book by that American free press reporter, Michael Piper.
No, exactly.
For printing the words of Ms.
Karpinski, that general there in the Abigra prison, she said that the Shin Bet interrogators, those Israeli interrogators, were the ones brought in, even involved in some of the killing.
Now, she didn't say the killing, but she said that she was shoved aside.
Well, the Army's own report said that the contractors did torture people to death.
Karpinski said, I'm not even allowed in those wings.
They went after her as a scapegoat.
Yes, so she's saying now that the Israeli Shin Bet were on site.
This to me is impossible.
We have photos of the Shin Bet people with the Shin Bet tattoos.
Exactly, and now you have Jane's Defense Weekly earlier from their own info corroborated Ms.
Karpinski, but she, like Sandy Berger, has now fallen off the radar screen.
I'm hoping, Alex, you'd bring Michael Piper on now.
I think he's coming back from the Far East next week or so.
In the bookstores in Malaysia, his book, The High Priest of War, is being sold across that country and a few other countries.
Just not here, where it counts so much, where he's been able to expose the CIA-Israeli Mossad operation.
Well, look, I watched this Barnett guy for a couple hours on C-SPAN this weekend, this high priest of military war doctrine at the Military War College, and he said it's New World Order, it's globalization, we're going to take over the whole planet.
I mean, I've got to get that guy on.
His new book is The Pentagon's New Map.
And they just came right out with it.
But thanks for the call.
I appreciate it, Ed.
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Forced metal screening hits roadblock in-house.
Representative Ron Paul seeks to yank program decries use of drugs on children.
Representative Ron Paul, Republican, Texas, plans to offer an amendment in the House of Representatives today that would remove from an appropriations bill a new mandatory mental health screening program for America's children.
The American tradition of parents deciding what is best for their children is yet again under attack, writes Kent Snyder of the Paul-founded Liberty Committee.
The pharmacological industry has convinced President Bush to support mandatory mental health screening for every child in America, including preschool children, and industry is now working to convince Congress as well.
The new Freedom Initiative recommends screening not only of children, but eventually for every American, and that's to have a job under your national ID card.
I've seen Rich say that.
The initiative came out of the new Freedom Commission on Mental Health, which President Bush established in 2002.
Critics of the plan say it is a thinly veiled attempt by drug companies to provide a wider market for high-priced antidepressants and antipsychotic medication and puts government in areas of Americans' lives where it does not belong.
Right, Snyder?
The real payoff of the drug companies is the forced drugging of children that will result, as we learned tragically with Ritalin and Even,
When parents refuse.
Paul's amendment to the Labor, HHS, and Education Appropriations Act for fiscal year 2005 would take the new program out of the funding bill.
The congressman, who is known for his strict adherence to the Constitution, wrote in a letter to his colleagues, as you know, and he's a medical doctor, by the way,
Psychiatric drugs are increasingly prescribed for children who show nothing more than children's typical rambunctious behavior.
Many children have suffered harmful effects from these drugs, yet some parents have even been charged with child abuse for refusing to drug their children.
The federal government should not promote national mental health screening programs that will force the use of these antipsychotic drugs such as Ritalin.
Now, or psychiatric drugs such as Ritalin.
And it says, the new Freedom Commission found that despite their prevalence, mental disorders often go undiagnosed and recommended comprehensive mental health screening for consumers of all ages.
Now, this was set up, the model of this, in Austin in the early 1990s.
It is openly run by a consortium of drug companies.
They come up with studies that they fund with hundreds of new mental illnesses a year.
Europe is now doing the exact same thing.
I have articles right here.
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Another article out of Illinois.
Illinois launches compulsory mental health screening for children and pregnant women.
Here's another one from the British Medical Association.
Bush to screen population for mental illness.
We have all these posted on Infowars.com.
Now understand...
The fight just isn't at Congress, and it's very important there.
This is to fund it with tens of billions of dollars, to fund to have drug company reps in the schools.
Folks, I have the plan.
Some of their own officials have gone public and blown the whistle because they have a heart and a conscience and a soul and don't want to be... I mean, this isn't just Ritalin and Prozac.
Now it's antipsychotics, new stuff that the patents haven't run out on, deadly stuff that can kill people, that causes brain damage.
Understand, 10 states have already implemented this.
Others are implementing it.
You've got to fight it at a state level.
And to help fight that, Dr. Breeding, who I challenged, has done a great job to come up with a plan, a legal form to put schools and hospitals on notice.
And yes, folks, even when we've had children at the hospitals, they come in and do the mental health thing and you have to say no.
It's already going on, folks.
And this all goes into a database.
This is the new America.
It's out of control.
It is so Orwellian.
It is so Huxleyan.
Brave new world.
You've got to fight this at the local level.
This is pure Soviet Nazi systems.
The Nazis and Soviets used this.
Hey Alex, it's good to be back with you.
I appreciate you.
Carrying on this fight for us all here.
Well, you're doing it too, and you've done a great job.
And unfortunately, I think your proposal, a way to block this, was so popular that you got a server notice up saying you went over your bandwidth.
I hope you get more bandwidth and get your website back up.
But a lot of sites have mirrored your proposal, and we'll try to get that out to people.
Well, we got it back up.
Okay, good.
We'll get that out.
You got it back up.
Go ahead and give folks your website.
It's wildestcolts.com, W-I-L-D-E-S-T-C-O-L-T-S dot com.
From there, you can click on right to this.
We call it a declaration of refusal to comply with any new Freedom Commission mandate for universal mental health screening of children in the schools.
Okay, let's stop right there.
For those that just joined us, it's hard to...
Overstate how evil and focused and crafted this is by corporations who literally don't just want to make hundreds of billions of dollars, but also want to take control of the society.
But can you in a nutshell go over this for us?
Yeah.
Well, you mentioned that the thing is linked to what started in Texas in the early mid-90s.
It's called the Texas Medication Algorithm Project.
And basically what that means is it's a formulary
I think it's the same kind of thing that says if this disease, then this drug, or specifically if this mental illness, then this drug.
If ADHD, then Ritalin, if that doesn't work, then Adderall.
If depression, then Paxil or Prozac or whatever, and if that doesn't work, then electroshock.
So it's basically a formula that says you diagnose this supposed illness, then you give this drug, and the drugs, as you mentioned, are the ones that happen to be the main profit points for the
I think so.
I think so.
A large percentage of the people who got appointed to the New Freedom Commission by President Bush have links directly to TMAP here in Texas, and we've been able to document all that.
So this New Freedom Commission, and it is Orwellian, I mean New Freedom, right?
We call it New Intrusion Initiative or whatever, but New Freedom Commission.
These people are intimately linked to TMAP, which is intimately linked to the drug company's
And so what sounds like, oh, we're caring about your children, we want to look for problems so we can help them as soon as possible, is really about we're throwing out a dragnet to bring more kids in.
Yeah, this puts drug reps into all the schools now, and it's going to be for adults too, and I want to go over that, but for those that just joined us, imagine a science fiction movie in theaters where every public school is really a psychiatric laboratory
Where the curriculum is psychological testing and spying on your parents and semester classes with police, how to be tattletales and tattletale cards.
I mean, this is the new America, and they brag.
We've had Charles Iserby on many times, former deputy head of the Department of Education under Reagan, and she's got a book the size of a phone book full of documents.
They say this is where they're going to train us how to be prisoners and institutionalize the entire population, Dr. Breeding.
Well, the New Freedom Commission very specifically and clearly says that they want to screen all children and adults in the public schools for signs of possible mental illness.
They see the schools as the place where children are.
There are 52 million children and 6 million adults.
You know, there's already at least 9 million, maybe more, school-aged children on psychiatric drugs.
That's over 15% of the population.
But that's not enough.
They're saying that there's large numbers that are undiagnosed.
So we do this screening.
We can find another 20% or so.
And that's the dynamic.
And it's cast in this rhetoric of,
You know, we really care about our children.
We really want to meet their needs.
Well, how did humans 6,000 years ago survive without having 35% of the children on pharmacological drugs?
Or even 50 years ago.
I mean, I guess, were there drug bushes that grew and we were all mentally ill and we had the drug bushes?
How did we suddenly discover Ritalin deficiencies and Prozac deficiencies and Zyprexa deficiencies, you know?
It's...
It just happens to correlate with the pharmaceutical industry finding a major growth point with these psychotropic drugs and then specifically a huge growth market with children and an onslaught of
Propaganda and misinformation.
Well, I want to stop right there.
I mean, because I've got the medical inserts on these drugs.
I mean, these things admittedly, and even officials have gone public and said that these things kill people.
They brain damage.
I mean, not just Ritalin and Prozac.
These new ones are even more deadly.
Well, you mentioned, I mean, Ritalin, you know, we have...
I think we're good.
Yeah, I think so.
I think so.
I think so.
This is not any kind of fiction.
This is the reality.
And that's while the brain is growing.
That's while the brain is growing.
And then when they're all screwed up and permanent vegetables, they drug them for life.
You start the kids young.
It creates tolerance and dependency.
It alters the brain function.
And plus it labels them with the idea that they have a mental illness, which...
Everybody knows, quote-unquote, is due to a biological or genetic defect.
We've got to break.
We've got to break, Doctor.
We'll come back with that and then start going to some calls early in this interview.
But we'll talk about the plan you've got to fight this.
It's very effective.
But understand, people, think of the devil himself.
I mean, how evil this is.
This is like something the devil would come up with.
Tens of thousands of babies on this stuff.
We'll be back with Dr. Breeding.
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I have known young people with no history of heart disease in their family who are out running around playing at the playground and die of a heart attack who have been on Ritalin for two years.
I know several children.
I know people who have six foot tall parents who are now 18 years old because they were on Ritalin for five years and they're five foot two.
And their other brother who isn't is six foot two.
I mean, I've seen it.
But since all this is out, since it comes out that they covered up the huge suicide increase, what do the drug companies do?
They come back with, oh, we're going to force you all on it.
Ha!
And the schools are also being turned into systems to process you into the criminal justice system or onto welfare.
Any way to get the state in control of you and so the corporations can profit from you.
Now I know that we have Andrea and Jim and Jimmy and Dave and Peter and Al.
We'll get to all of you quickly in the next segment, but we're talking to...
My good friend, Dr. John Breeding.
Right now, let's talk about the plan you've got at the state level to put these drug reps, these control freaks, these literal Nazi demons on notice when they try to force you or your children into psychiatric systems or drugs.
Tell folks about it.
Yeah.
Well, actually, this is state and federal in the sense that we're recruiting people
Yeah, we have signatures from all over the country and then we can sort them out by state for people to use in their individual states.
But basically it's a declaration of refusal.
It's a statement of what's going on with the New Freedom Commission and then ultimately it's a place where it says, we the undersigned solemnly declare that we will not allow our children to be the subjects of any form of implementation of New Freedom recommendations to screen our children for signs of mental illness.
It also says we promise to actively resist further intrusion of psychiatry into the schools, will not cooperate with those who act as agents of this wrong-headed initiative, etc.
Basically what we've got is we've got this posted up.
We've only had it up for two days and we've already got close to a thousand signatures.
We plan to get several thousand within the next
Yes.
We're going to use this to get a lot more media attention and specifically with administrators and politicians.
It's just part of the effort to show that there is massive resistance to this kind of idea and it will not be implemented.
Also, individual parents
Can use this as well.
But we're going to definitely use it on a group.
Well, you know how they operate.
They'll just change the name in a year or so.
They're trying to fund it right now.
It's already in 10 states.
They've got $20 million in this bill today that is going.
This is sort of like the new Freedom Commission, right?
Really, it's so-called the new Intrusion Draconian Commission.
The Orwellian doublespeak is incredible.
They've got $20 million in this bill that Ron Paul is challenging that you mentioned that's
I think so.
I think so.
That this is not an ongoing onslaught and an ongoing battle.
Well, doctor, notice what they do.
They're caught in pure evil.
They're caught in corruption.
They're caught toxifying and murdering children.
They consciously are creating all these new illnesses.
The schools are being turned into this.
And then we're countering them.
It's all coming out.
So they go, we'll just increase what we're doing tenfold and see how you like that.
Yeah.
Well, it starts with, you know, we deny it.
It's not happening.
Like, kids, this is not called suicide.
And then when you force them to face it, they say, well, it's not that bad.
And then when they have to face it, they say, well, it's the victim's fault anyway.
You know, they're suiciding because of their mental illness rather than the drugs.
So, you're right.
There's no conscience there.
There's no morality there.
There's just major money to be made and...
And they unfortunately have government and institutional support and so we've got a big fight.
But ultimately it does come down to, just as with all your work does, it comes down to individual people saying we will not cooperate.
And that's what I like about this particular initiative.
It's getting people to make a commitment and make a statement that says we will not cooperate.
We refuse to comply.
And to put that right in their face.
And we'll see what happens.
Whatever happened to the Fifth Amendment or the Fourth Amendment, this is an intrusion into your mind with phony baloney guidelines that are a fraud themselves.
This is an intrusion into your Fifth Amendment.
You've got to sign a permission slip for your child to go to the zoo or the planetarium.
Yeah, this nice old lady...
A violation of informed consent and a tremendous violation of the right to privacy.
That's part of our argument in this declaration.
You got it.
Oh, it's amazing.
I mean, you know, the nice old lady comes to your door in these, you know, these preschool programs.
Oh, I'm here to help you, Mommy.
And really, she's going back and reporting, looking for dirt to take your children because the state wants to fill its institutions.
This is a holocaust.
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How out of control it is.
How openly un-American it is.
And I hope you'll go to Dr. Breeding's website and sign up for the petition.
I hope you'll spread the word about it.
We need to create forms as well to resist all of these initiatives going on in the schools.
It's going on in schools all over.
It's going on in hospitals.
You're just not being told about it, folks.
I've run into it.
I ran into it in high school decades and decades ago.
Okay, I've run into it at the hospital.
I've seen it everywhere.
It's going on under other names.
Now they want to make it the law and make you do it.
Before we go back to Dr. Breeding, and I promise we'll go to Andrea and Jimmy and Dave and Peter and Al and others.
Before we do that, though, we had a lot of requests for this.
I heard it a few days ago.
Here it is one more time.
Here I am.
The audio from the video.
C-SPAN is set up inside the security perimeter at Madison Square Garden right outside.
There's helicopters swarming above us, Big W projected on the side of a skyscraper, police with machine guns and sound cannons all around us, and they've got the delegates up there worshipping Bush and just all the things he's doing.
So I got on C-SPAN.
I had been asking for a while to get on.
They said, no, no, just delegates.
And I said, you know, that's wrong.
C-SPAN has talked about me for hours before and attacked me.
Why don't you let me on?
So they gave me about 40 seconds...
And this is what I had to say from the belly of the beast.
So here it is, folks.
Go back outside of Madison Square Garden for more delegate reaction.
And Susan, of course, the floor is empty, but they're here, and we'd be accused of not hearing all voices.
We cut you off a moment ago.
This is Alex Jones from Austin, Texas, the radio talk show host.
With InfoWars.com, both candidates are cousins.
Yes, sir.
They're skull and bones.
They're bringing in big government and tyranny.
The evidence is clear.
The military-industrial complex was intimately involved in 9-11.
The commission is a complete fraud.
We're losing our freedoms.
Both parties are controlled.
And if we don't wake up and stand up and speak out, this country's going to be destroyed.
Giving up liberty only gives us tyranny.
It does not give us security, and I hope that everybody out there wakes up to this and realizes that America is America because we have the Bill of Rights and Constitution.
Everybody should investigate 9-11 and find out who's really behind it.
It's Bush's and the New World Order's Reichstag, and his cousin Kerry isn't going to save you either.
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Alex Jones, okay, now... All right, and I just wanted to get Dr. Breeding's take on this.
It's another issue, but we'll keep him on into the next hour.
If you can stay with us, we're about to go to your calls.
Dr. Breeding, were you aware of this new Zogby poll?
Half of New Yorkers believe U.S.
government had foreknowledge and purposefully, consciously failed to act.
Half of New Yorkers, including conservatives, believe that there was prior knowledge.
And Hispanics, 75.6% in New York in a Zogby poll, believe the U.S.
government was behind it.
63% of women believe it.
What are they going to do when, you know, all of us believe this and there's 1% up there saying we're all kooks?
Do you have any comments?
I mean, because the most horrible, unbelievable things now are becoming commonplace.
People are believing what we're telling them because we're able to give them the facts.
Do you have any comments on this issue?
Oh, I think it's just a tremendous impact that you're having with your work.
You know, the thought is, like, you know, how is it that
People are able to hold that one fact somewhere in the mind and at the same time really like and support George Bush because he's making it safe from terror in America.
It's mind boggling.
At some point it shifts.
At some point if you wake up to the truth enough and become aware enough you can't live with that kind of
Well, here's an example.
I mean, here's an example.
I'm in New York City, threatened with arrest three times a day, watch reporters getting arrested.
They're aiming sound cannons at us.
There's no law we can't videotape in the city, but they keep arresting people doing it.
I mean, where's our First Amendment?
You know, it's not just that they want to force drug us and force psychologically test us.
Now they want to draft us.
And that's slavery.
Now they want to arrest us for protesting peaceably with permitted protest.
I mean, it's every freedom we've got is under attack, and everything the government's doing with corporations controlling it is about taking our choice and our freedom away.
This is classical slavery on a hundred fronts.
Well, two thoughts.
One is just about you as a model.
In the onslaught of all that
All that stimulation, all that oppression, all that confusion.
You gave a 40-second statement that was just crystal clear and jammed with information.
I mean, I was just amazed.
So that's the ability of a focused mind to express itself in the midst of all that, so I commend you for that.
Secondly, I read this, and you can probably tell me if it's true, that one of the judges who was looking at all these cases of arrest up there
Well, he was fined, the city of New York, $1,000 a head for hundreds of these arrests because he was clear that these arrests were not proper arrests.
So that kind of tension or dynamic, forcing people into situations where the tyranny, as you say, where the oppression is clearly revealed for what it is and is not able to be hidden behind a smoke screen of
Yeah, I think so.
They kind of have to face their conscience.
No, you're right.
It brought things to a head, and police would apologize in private with the cameras off, but in their group dynamic, and it's like German soldiers.
They weren't all bad, but in that group dynamic, they were very, very wicked.
And I totally agree with you, but...
To be there in the middle of this and to see this tyranny did wake up a lot of people.
And you're absolutely right.
The judge was fining them $500 per head for every 30 minutes that they held people past the date.
And they held over a thousand people eight hours after the judge's order.
Last time I heard, it was like $500,000.
Wow.
And I was there, Dr. Breeding.
They put them in a camp with asbestos in the harbor in a condemned building and made the cops work in there and put people 30 to 40 in a cage in barbed wire, literal, barbed wire cages inside an un-air-conditioned building.
And they didn't even charge him.
They would just arrest whole streets of people, old ladies, people in wheelchairs, reporters, tourists.
It didn't matter.
And there's photos and video of this, and we got it.
There's photos all over the web.
People went down to the police station, central booking, where they would be taken by bus and then taken in and booked after they'd been in the camp for a day or so.
And people put notes up, like they did in Germany or like they did in Cambodia with the Khmer Rouge,
Yeah, yeah.
Well, let's just pray that that just continues the process of really waking people up and radicalizing people, you know, to the fact that, you know, the veneer of civility and indecency is very thin veneer.
Yeah.
It is.
Now, I've been rambling on.
I appreciate Dr. Breeding putting up with me as usual, but give folks your website again and tell them how to sign up for this petition.
Yeah, wildestcolts.com, www.wildestcolts.com.
Right there on the very front of the first page, a declaration of refusal to comply.
You can read the document.
It will detail the information as far as why this petition
So this is a declaration of independence against this pharmacological tyranny and mass murder, folks.
That's right.
And by signing on, you will be supporting this effort and really giving us some leverage with the press and with the politicians.
You know, we want...
We want thousands of people to sign up.
Everybody who's listening to Alex Jones Show today, sign up this thing and then Alex can come on in the next couple of days and say, hey, we got 10,000 signatures yesterday from this show.
That's what I'd like to hear.
You just put it up a few days ago, already over 1,000 and it's spreading across the net.
Absolutely.
We're about to go to your call.
I just want to add that we carry two of Dr. Breeding's books.
Both get into how to really raise children, great ideas, how to stop them from being drugged, what the drugs really do.
The other one is called True Nature and Great Misunderstandings.
It really supports Alex and me both for you to get these books.
The nice thing about them is besides really challenging this phenomenon of psychiatric drugging and explaining how that works, they're just really fresh.
I think it's important to have reminders of what children are really like and what our job really is as adults and really support for how to really remember
The nature of children, how to really meet their needs, how to really think of them, free from all this nonsense that says they're sick, they're mentally ill, they're defective.
No, really, they're glorious, they're wonderful, they're unique, they're self-determining, they don't want to be controlled.
It's these kind of reminders and support for that.
Well, exactly.
I mean, they've got this mind and everything is so fresh and new, and then we enslave them in the society with this Prussian model that is kindergarten, does this to them, don't...
Get these books, folks.
Infowars.com or presentplanet.com.
Let's go to Andrea in Ohio who called in earlier wanting to talk to you than Jimmy and everybody else.
Go ahead, Andrea.
Yes, I'm on your email list too, Doctor, and I really can't say enough how much of a resource it is.
One of the things that has struck me in reading all the literature, I think the reason a lot of people assume that the mental health screening is benevolent is because they think, oh, well,
I don't have a mental illness.
My child doesn't.
They assume, they really don't ask themselves.
But these are nice people and these guidelines weren't written by the drug companies.
They don't ask themselves, okay, what criteria are they going to base this screening on?
Is it going to be psychological?
Is it going to be thought processes?
Is it going to be ideology?
Is it going to be
What you think about certain issues, you know, and even those psychological tests can help
They have some pretty subjective questions on them.
Oh, they're totally subjective.
You've got the key point, Andrea, and I recognize your name.
It's good to hear your voice.
Yes.
Yeah.
The diagnoses are totally subjective and they're taking normal child behaviors like a lot of energy, a lot of excitement, talking out of turn, getting out of your seat.
These things are pathologized as criteria of mental illness and they're totally subjective.
They're mostly an expression of adult's discomfort with
Well, here's an example.
We'll ask a 13-year-old girl or boy, do you get upset?
Do you seem confused?
Well, that's natural.
And that's part of the team screen.
That's part of the screening for depression for teenagers.
That's exactly how it happens.
A friend of mine at church one time was telling me that they'd put her husband on medication for some, like an anger management thing, and he was beginning to calm down.
Well, she didn't know quite how to deal with it, and their answer to it was, well, you need to be on medication, too.
Yeah, and so, again, you know, there's a euphemism here.
It's called medication.
It's really a drug, because a medication is something that's used to treat a verified illness in the form of a physical or chemical abnormality, like a cancer tumor or a blood sugar imbalance.
You know, they call speed, they call amphetamine, they call downers, they call these things medication.
And they're not.
They're powerful pharmaceutical agents, that's for sure.
All right.
Well, Andrea, thank you so much for your call.
I appreciate it.
Jimmy in Texas, you're on the air.
Go ahead.
Good greeting.
I am signed up, and since I have signed up, I have seen that lots of other people have.
All right.
God bless you.
I'm scared, man.
I've got a four-year-old, and I've got another one on the way.
And, damn, I mean, sorry.
It's just...
It's unbelievable.
And Alex, can you speak to me about the current psychology that I have, the coming new world order?
Man, I feel like it's already here, dude, and I'm about to be in tears.
Well, they have new mental illnesses, a bunch of different criteria.
If you don't trust authority, if you question.
Doctor, what are those new specific diagnoses called?
Well, first of all, let me just say that being in tears is a healthy response to the oppression of our children.
So bless you for that.
Beyond that, you might be suffering from oppositional defiant disorder.
It's called ODD.
You might be suffering from conduct disorder.
You might be suffering, if you really get out loud like Alex Jones, you might be suffering from SDPD, severely dangerous personality disorder.
So there are these diagnoses that really are an expression of calling defiance of authority a pathology.
Can I make one appeal to the country before I hang up because my battery is low and that is you need to love your children a little bit more.
You need to hold them and you need to play with them and get off of your sports and get off of your porn and you need...
You get your children off those drugs.
I know people who have their children on drugs, and it's ridiculous.
There's not enough love coming out from the rest of us.
Thank you.
I agree.
If people really love their children, they will get to the bottom of this and stop worshipping sports and possessions and start caring about your family.
Let me give you a quick irony on this, Alex.
I heard yesterday that there was a group of Russians
There were a couple of psychologists that were consulting on a project over here and they were looking at the fact that we have millions of school-aged children on stimulant drugs and speed and like that in this country.
It's kind of ironic because we think of the Russians as doing this suppression of diffidence with psychiatry, which they did 20 years ago.
But these Russian psychologists were looking at this and they say, where's the loving?
Don't you love your children?
Why do you put them all on drugs?
So, Jimmy's right.
It's amazing.
I mean, come on, folks.
Just read what this stuff does to your children.
I mean, it's on the package.
Oh, but a doctor told me.
Yeah, Dr. Mingala said stuff, too.
Dave in Oklahoma.
Dave, go ahead.
Yeah, I think the new freedom is a great thing just because it's going to give the American people some much-needed practice in saying no, I'm not complying.
You've got plenty of opportunities for that.
Well, we're going to need some practice for the draft and for the microchips and etc.
What I really called about though, Alex, was you made a
Well, I support Jewish people.
I support German people.
I support Chinese people.
I support people being able to live in peace.
But I said the people running Israel do not support Israel and arm China and arm Iran.
And as Barry Hamish and others have said, really want to destroy Israel, and the people of Israel are just as enslaved to their government as the Palestinians are.
So that was the point I was making.
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Yeah.
Stay there, Dave.
Yeah, I don't hate Israel, folks, like some people do.
No, no, I don't like the New World Order.
So I've gotten above the false paradigm.
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Well, funny, I was watching a thing taped a month ago.
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Dave, you know, Jews did go, Israelites did go into what is Jerusalem today.
That is a Jewish city.
I think that Arabs have a right to live there.
Christians, I don't support a lot of the things Israel does.
Creating terror groups, carrying out terror attacks against their own people.
That's even been in their own newspapers.
But at the same time, I'll acknowledge that Saudi Arabia will kill Christians on the spot or outside their compounds.
They're after Christians.
So I don't just fall down and worship some of the radical Muslim elements that I don't think reflect most Muslims I've talked to or most Muslim countries.
But some of them are out of control.
And those are the very Muslim countries that are actually protected by big oil and the military-industrial complex.
And the nations we go in and bring down are the ones that weren't a threat to the West.
So I hope you get what I'm saying.
It's not just a two-dimensional thing here.
It's a three-dimensional thing.
Oh, I totally understand, Alex.
And I'm talking about the big picture here, about Israel.
I mean, we know that they were created by the UN at the end of World War II in complete...
I mean, the UN didn't have the power to do that, but yet they did it.
And the point is that we know from the Freemason... Actually, the UN never really did that, and they criticized Israel and played a double game.
It was the U.S.
and England that really did that.
Okay, well, it was the globalists, in other words.
See, there was always the plan to have three world wars, the third one being a religious war, and Israel was set up as the provocator state.
I don't have anything against the people of Israel, but the state of Israel is set up as a provocation for the latest world war.
The way the state of Israel is set up is to expand the new world order.
And that's what I've always tried to point out, is that it's a counterfeit.
And I appreciate your call.
Dr. Breeding, I know it's a whole other issue, but do you have any comments on that?
Well, I have a lot of... I haven't articulated this as much as you have.
I think I agree with most of what you're saying.
I certainly...
I don't like it that you're refusing to get caught in a position that you're scapegoating or pathologizing individual peoples or individual races or individual nations.
I think it's very clear to say that over and over again.
I have a lot of sympathy with the oppression of Palestinians and I don't have a lot of sympathy with the policies of the Israeli state, just like I don't have any sympathy with the policies of the United States as a state.
And I see the policies of Israel and the policies of the United States as very much interrelated.
So I agree.
You know, they're both oriented towards aggression and exploitation and conquest, and they're not really inclined towards reconciliation and communication and diplomacy and really working with people.
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Most governments are run by tyrants.
Government is normally very corrupt and brutal.
Whether it's Saudi Arabia or Israel or now what the United States is turning into.
But Russia, and that's the point I was trying to make.
Now we'll get off into that, I'm sure, talking about Israel.
But we do need to get into Russia's preemptive strikes against global terror bases.
Working with NATO, see?
They've been wanting to get Russia into NATO.
Now it's happening.
And I watched a Pentagon meeting on C-SPAN.
They're going to be our new ally, tromping around.
And former KGB chiefs here helping set up Homeland Security.
I mean, this is so bizarre.
It's like a bad science fiction novel.
You'd laugh at any novel that was this weird.
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Welcome.
Alex, I think you know that they don't really have much chance in passing something this egregious straight up.
Thank you.
So they're going to pull back and then they're going to try to pass it piecemeal.
You know that.
The other point is,
That obviously this is a supposed benefit, and like all the other so-called benefits, it ties into the socialist slave state number.
And once you revoke that, they pretty well can't touch you.
But what I don't understand is why they think they have any chance of enforcing this whatsoever.
I mean, are people that stupid that they would actually...
Go forth for their so-called... Okay, well, here's an example.
There's no law you have to take vaccines, but all over the country for a month leading up to the new school year, they said it's the law, you have to do it, you'll be arrested.
It's color of law.
So you go to school, and the school is now one class is how to be a tattletale for the police.
They even have those all over the country.
Another class is about...
How to be a good little psychiatric slave and what drugs to take.
And then the other class is how to be a good little global minion.
The schools are not about education anymore.
They're about indoctrination.
Dr. Breeding?
Well, the vaccines are a good parallel.
They kept people out here in Austin.
I know they sent a lot of people home from school the first day because they didn't have their vaccines.
They didn't send them home with information that says, you know, here's the form that you have a right to.
To be a conscientious objector to vaccines.
You know, you have a right to not get your children vaccinated.
They didn't say that.
They said, your child cannot come to school until they're vaccinated.
And people complied.
That's a good example.
You know, the fact is that there's already over 9 million school-aged kids on psychiatric drugs.
That's 15% of the population.
Are people that stupid?
I don't know if it's stupidity, but it's definitely an apathy, a passivity, a naive trust of authority, a fear of authority.
All these things are challenging.
It's domestication.
Domestication of wildness.
That's why the book is called The Wildest Cultists Make the Best Horses.
And that's why your show is about being wild and free.
It's domestication, which is a slave kind of mentality.
It's a passive state that depends on the caretaker, the owner, the master to tell you what to do.
It's called there's a lot to wake up.
There's a lot to wake up to.
And the man's right.
It's an ongoing...
Yeah, well, you know, they could... It just sounds so outrageous on its face value that...
I mean, even somebody who has been somewhat dumbed down and might even think that vaccinations are a good idea, that they would just passively go along because some, well, like a school principal says so.
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All right, Dr. Breeding, you were continuing to comment on what Peter was saying from Missouri.
You know, that's what amazes me, is that I could be in New York and watch mainstream reporters arrested for standing on the sidewalk with big film crews videotaping the police arresting innocent people.
That they would have sound wave weapons that they're using in Iraq.
That I was in martial law, that there's no law to take vaccines, but the nightly news says it's a law, and the school administrator says it's a law, and then no one's able to call them on it.
I mean, it's just every... It's like lying about weapons of mass destruction and then saying they never said it was about weapons of mass destruction.
It's just... It's like people aren't... A lot of folks are waking up, okay?
The mainstream media makes the illusion that we aren't waking up, tries to make us feel alone.
They've tried to destroy any type of community.
They've tried to stop us from reaching out and knowing our neighbors.
And so really we're like rats caught in a machine or a maze.
And we'll go to calls in a second, but can you comment to that, Dr. Brady?
Well, good distinction about the mainstream media saying how things are versus how things really are, to keep separating that out.
But I really sympathize with Peter's response because here's a guy who's pretty aware.
He's already got a lot of awareness about what's going down, but still he's shaking his head and saying, this is just obviously so outrageous.
How can this be going on?
I experience that a lot.
A lot of times, almost every day I wake up, it's like,
Is this real?
I have to kind of remind myself.
It's very surreal.
It's very surreal.
Yeah, it's very surreal.
So it is about waking up and staying awake.
That statement, I will not go back to sleep.
It's like every day I will be awake and I will be aware and I will pay attention and I will seek the truth and I will not believe something just because somebody says so.
And I will find people who support me in being that way, which is the community that you're talking about.
So I sympathize with Peter and I think it really is about continuing to be... I think the ability to be fully responsible and fully awake is exactly related to the ability to be completely disillusioned of all the
Well, what's the saying that one of the truest forms of mental illness, if you even believe in that, is the refusal to go through legitimate suffering, and people just denial
Is not a river in Egypt, as the cliche goes.
And so many people, you know, George Arwell or Eric Blair in 1984 spent a lot of time describing doublethink.
And he said it was something that the upper classes, the elites, the yuppies did.
So that they could feel good, that subconsciously they knew it was horrible, so they did the mental trick of just accepting it and somehow getting power over it.
You know, can't beat them, join them.
A lot of people I've talked to will admit this is evil, but go, oh, there's nothing you can do, just join it.
I don't know how people do that.
Yeah, yeah, well, it's a numbing of conscience.
You know, you don't feel any discomfort at Disneyland.
You don't feel discomfort on your couch eating popcorn, watching fantasy TV.
I mean...
You know, you go numb.
But you're not truly alive.
I remember when I was like that, and never to a great extent, but that's that, you know, the truth will set you free, the people perish for lack of knowledge.
That's that big hole in the heart.
You're not truly alive, and you're right about suffering, you know what I mean?
It's like...
The man's feeling sadness when he looks at this, you know.
Our feeling sadness when we look at the reality of what's going on.
You're not normal if you don't feel that pain.
That means you've been deadened or chopped off from something.
And what psychiatry does is it acts as a control agent for the state by saying that that pain is an illness rather than that pain is a natural response to social injustice.
And so part of saying the no to psychiatry is just saying yes to I will keep thinking.
I will keep my eyes and heart open.
I will not let anybody pathologize me for this.
I will not let anybody pathologize my child because he's in a situation that's not working for him.
I will find a way to defend him.
I will find a way to find a situation to support him.
I will connect with people.
There's no easy way for this.
Here's an example I used last time you were on.
I'll use it again.
Barnum and Bailey Circus.
You look at those elephants in those small cages, shaking their heads back and forth, totally depressed, waving their trunks.
It's the same thing they do when one of their babies or one of the elephants dies.
We're good to go.
We have a depression problem just because these elephants are mentally ill.
So we're now drugging the elephants.
And so now they just lay down on the corner because they're drugged.
Well, that's like humanity.
We're sitting there shaking our heads, swinging our trunks.
Oh, you don't like what we're doing to you?
You don't like all this?
Your subconscious knows this is all evil and is causing you to have pain over it?
Or your soul is having a problem with it?
Well, just drug it.
You know, it's like somebody buys an Australian Shepherd that's meant to run 15 miles a day at least, the way it's bred, and you put it in a one-room apartment, and so when it chews holes in things and freaks out and goes what you'd call crazy, you put it on doggy Prozac.
And now I've found out that millions of animals are on drugs.
Yeah, that's right.
It's even in the fish they're finding now.
There's so much...
Prozac and these types of drugs going in just through urination and stuff into the water supply.
I mean, vets are now drugging people's dogs.
Yeah, that's right.
The other thing that you hear about the elephants is the way they train them is they stake them for a while so they can't move.
And then they learn that and then they remove the stake and they're still conditioned that they can't move.
And that's like being in school and being forced into this position of having to be kind of passive and dependent on adult authority.
People grow up to be adults and they still think they're that way.
They don't realize that they're free.
And that's part of what we're trying to do, what you're doing and what I'm doing is saying, hey, remember who you really are?
You're a free spiritual being.
Hey, guess what?
You have a choice.
Hey, guess what?
You can look and see the truth.
Yeah, that's right.
It's the pathologizing of a natural response to an oppressive situation.
Let's go ahead and take another call.
Beautifully said, Doctor.
Tom in Louisiana.
Thanks for holding her on the air.
Go ahead.
Hello, Alex.
I'm glad you got back from New York, okay?
Thank God.
And I'm sure I'm one of those super sick people because I've never believed all that baloney.
I can remember in 1948, I started school.
By the time I was in the eighth grade, I could tell that the education system was just plummeting downhill because they kept lowering the standards and teaching to the lowest common dummy, if you want to call it that.
Also, when I went to college, they were teaching, of course, socialism and communism and economics.
I'm not politically correct then, even though the term wasn't used.
I walked into a comparative economics course one day and made a comment to the professor
But Karl Marx must have been a real sickie.
Well, he didn't like that at all, so that didn't gain me any points, but too bad.
But I was lucky that I did have a high school teacher who made us read the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence.
All this baloney about democracy does not exist in the Constitution.
And on the subject that you've been talking about, they're trying to make everybody as dumb as they can and control them just like sheep.
Don't sheep them.
Yeah, it's the Treaty of the Sea, and the U.N.
is the...
I remember in the early 60s in college listening to the Voice of America and listening to Radio Moscow.
We dubbed it.
Well, I agree with the basic idea that whether it's capitalism or communism, you know, it's kind of like arguing between Republicans and Democrats.
You know, you look at the basic level of the organization, the level of centralization and control, the basic value, where's the focus, where's the value?
Is it on reverence for life?
Is it on a maximization of control and suppression?
And I don't know if we've ever really had a true free enterprise any more than we've ever had a true so-called communism, you know?
I mean, it's like, I don't...
I don't allow myself to be defined that way.
No, it's true.
I mean, everything is always a thug, a king rat ruling over people, and you always find the big so-called capitalists working with the communists or any other thug, as Carol Quigley, Bill Clinton's mentor, said at Georgetown.
Anything else, Tom?
I have a question maybe you can answer.
Sure.
I can't in good conscience vote for either one of the big manure spreaders we have running for president.
And I'd like to know who else is on the ballot besides Nader and those two.
We'll try to talk about that after the break.
Okay, thank you.
But, I mean, just briefly, Nader's controlled, obviously.
Now, a lot of evidence has come out for that effect.
You know, his book's been published by Rupert Murdoch and a bunch of other stuff that has come out.
There is Mr. Perudka from the Constitution Party, who's good, great.
Michael Bagnarik from Libertarians is great as well.
But frankly, everybody gets so focused on the big presidential election, but people don't come out to vote for the county or city election.
The big fight needs to be about the sanctity of our ballots.
And to stop that, that's where the real fight's at right now.
So frankly, I think the whole presidential thing is nothing but a big diversion.
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Well, that's the plan, yeah.
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I want you to maybe speak to this, man.
I'm running into people who don't want George Bush in there, which of course is a good thing, but they think that Kerry is the only thing they can do.
Of course, I don't want to talk about Ralph Nader because he's just another shill.
They're convinced that the other person is convinced.
And so they'll be wasting their vote if they vote for anyone else.
And so, even though they're saying that the other person is convinced, they're convinced themselves because they won't allow themselves to vote for anybody but George Bush or Kerry.
That's the sheep mentality of, I don't have my own ideas, I'll follow what other people are doing.
But look, Kerry's for the war.
Kerry is for the free trade area of the Americas.
Bush and Kerry aren't just cousins in their bloodlines, but they're
They're brothers, twin brothers when it comes to their policies.
Only the rhetoric's different.
Dr. Breeding, any comments?
Well, no.
I'm not even going to comment on that.
I'm just going to try to stay focused on the... Well, that's a good question.
Where do the Democrats stand on Lord Bush's new freedom initiative to psychiatrically test and drug the population?
Oh, this is a good question.
Yeah, well...
Generally speaking, we tend to get more sympathy from Republicans on sort of liberty and privacy stuff, like not drugging kids in schools and stuff.
But at the same time, though, we have this thing in the U.S.
Congress right now called the Child Medication Safety Act, Senate Bill 1390, that passed the House almost unanimously and is now being held up in the Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee.
Yeah, we have school teachers...
Politics is a mess, you know, just because of the vested interest and the fact that Big Pharma has so much money and so many lobbyists, you know, so it takes a lot of effort to impinge.
And it's not a Democrat or Republican issue.
Any individual politician can be bought and sold.
Well, yeah, that's the point I wanted to add here, is that a committee chairman and above in the government, that's what I'm saying, it's all the same actions, just different debates, different rhetoric.
And...
So the Bushies and, you know, Mr. Kennedy are on the same page.
So I think individuals can make decisions based on who, you know, I mean, it's valid at times to vote on the lesser of two evils maybe, but we have to keep the basic energy going about that we are going to make our decisions and do our work.
All right.
We've got a break.
Paul, anything else?
Can I stay with you for one second?
We'll come back with Paul and then Davey and others.
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Paul and Davey and Jerry and Alan and Leon talk.
Any other key points about the New Freedom Initiative you want to talk about?
Thanks, Alex.
The main thing is to click on the website, WildestCulture.com.
Click on the Declaration of Refusal to comply.
Make a statement that you declare that you will not allow your children to be subjects of government experimentation and intrusion.
You will actively resist this thing.
Help us out because we've got links with the media.
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We want to take it to them.
I want to take it from this show today.
We started with 1,000 this morning.
We want to get 10,000 names.
Everybody, get your name on there.
Support us that way because we've got these pilot programs going in different states.
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There are a lot of people who don't like this for various reasons.
And we want to really use it to raise a stink and specifically to try to slow this thing down and to protect our children.
So that's number one.
Number two, the basis of it is really just that there's no real diseases here.
Children do not have biologically based mental illnesses.
It's a bogus, broad thing that's manufactured and made up by big pharma and biological psychiatry.
There's no objective test.
There's just checklists of behavior.
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That's the big thing I'm asking for today.
And by the way, that's 10 million at any one time.
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And the statistics show that people who've been on these then go on and use illegal drugs or get into other pharmacological drugs that are even stronger.
It is a holocaust, folks, and it's huge.
And again, just ask yourself, 50 years ago, did we have to put 10 million children at any one time and another, what is it, 15 million adults or more now on very toxic, brain-altering drugs?
No other country in the world does this.
In countries, as I mentioned, like Russia, countries like Japan, these countries that have been our arch enemies at times, our allies at times, they look at this country and they say, my God, we don't even have these things in our country.
What is going on?
I'll tell you this, Doctor.
I've been to foreign countries and their children still play on the street corners.
They're in the park.
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That's what we're talking about is kind of leveling the playing field and giving us a chance to rebuild our communities.
Taking corporate profit and maximum profit and minimum liability
Let me just add one point early on.
I mean, earlier when I was just saying, you know, who all the people knew who I was, I was saying that to show that as an indicator that I'm just one little guy.
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We are a civilization in crisis.
Let's go ahead and let Paul finish up real quick.
Paul, go ahead.
I want to touch on what the earlier caller that called in speaking about Jews.
Like you are, I'm sick and tired of hearing about them.
Yes.
I think it's important for Jews that have done evil things, and please by all means document them, but also document the ones that are in this country that call themselves Christians that are doing the same thing.
These Christians are supporting certain parts of Judaism.
If you go to Israel you can't witness to anybody because it's against the law.
If you're a Christian Jew you can't migrate freely.
The revelation says that the Antichrist is going to be coming out of the land where Jesus was killed or crucified.
So those are some touching points but there are evil people like you say all over the world but please just don't document the Jews or you'll seem anti-Semitic or whatever.
So make sure you document all of them and we could start with some right now in 2004.
Start worrying about them please.
And so that's pretty much all I wanted to touch on.
All right, thanks for the call.
I appreciate it.
Look, again, almost every government is run by tyrannical people.
And some of these so-called Christian groups say, you've got to follow what Israel says, you're going to go to hell.
Well, then why was Jesus speaking out against the Pharisees?
I mean, it's a joke, folks.
It's a total twisting.
We've got to be conscious of that.
Let's go to Davey in Texas.
Go ahead, Davey.
Good afternoon, Alex.
I had two things briefly.
One was for the doctor.
I had a question if he'd ever heard of the book, Murder by Injection, by Eustace Mullins.
Have not heard of it.
I recommend that you obtain that book and read it.
There's a couple other books that Eustace Mullins has written.
One of them is The World Order, where he took the research notes of Ezra Pound and wrote that book.
But Alex, in good faith, I call to clarify for the record the definition of Israel.
And that, you know, it seems to be the epicenter or the nexus of, you know, the world's problems, and it says that in the scriptures.
Are you familiar with an individual named Willie Martin?
It barely rings a bell.
Okay, well, Willie just passed away last November, and I met him just before he died.
I read a book that he had written called In Search of Isaac's Children last summer, and it confirmed...
The truth of the Scriptures, most especially what's prophesied in the Old Testament, in Jeremiah and Isaiah, about who Israel is.
And Israel, there's a book called Old Jerusalem, and in that book there's a chapter that tells about in May of 48 when they chose the name Israel.
But in good faith, Alex, when I went to school down there in Austin, I used to be a security guard at a Jewish sorority house.
I've lived with Jews, and I don't hate Jews, but I do love the truth.
And the truth is, Israel has never been Jewish.
It will never be Jewish.
Israel is a people.
It is not a plate.
And those people over there in the Middle East calling themselves Israel are not descended from the tribe of Judah.
That's the issue.
Well, I would agree that some of the people there aren't, but I mean, obviously, some of the people in Israel are Jews.
They may be, but they're not Israelites.
And even if they are Israelites, Alex, if you study the Old Testament, the land that was deeded to the children of Israel, and specifically the tribe of Judah at Gilgal, is only a small portion of that land.
And if you study the Scriptures, you'll find that Israel was dispersed.
They were taken into the Assyrian captivity.
And they moved north and west.
And proven from the World Almanac... I know, but sir, do you see how I take one call about somebody calling about Israel and then just this... I understand, Alex.
I call her after calling.
People can look at the information online.
They can type in Willie Martin files online or Willie Martin.
And the information is there.
I would appreciate it if you'd have somebody like Pastor Peters or Bob Weiland or anybody out there that's willing to, in good faith,
I don't know the details of the biblical references and all that this man is referring to, but I just want to say that I think it's a real distraction to get too caught up in this religious ideological warfare because the epicenter of the world's problems is not Israel.
The epicenter of the world's problems is about the corporate control
Yeah, I think it's really important to think of world decisions and the basic values that come from that.
It flows from multinational corporations that are aligned to Karl Rove, who is really the President of the United States and controls the dynamics there and the funding that allows him to keep George Bush and people like him getting elected and that creates this playing field where corporations can just rape
I think we're good to go.
We're good to go.
I think we're good to go.
Reorient.
Well, what happens is, you know, take Africa.
The UN and other global groups will play one black tribe off against another because one lives on one side of the river and the other on the other side.
Yeah, that's a distraction from really facing the issues.
Well, take Ireland.
They'll play Catholic off against Protestant, Protestant off against Catholic, Northerners against Southerners.
When we have this criminal centralization of power that has to be dealt with, let's talk to Jay in Delaware.
Jay, you're on the air.
Go ahead.
How are you doing, Alex?
Good.
I had a couple of quick things.
One, there's a... I'm in Denver, actually.
There's a billboard on one of the main roads out here with Bin Laden sitting in his cave, like sitting there with his legs crossed.
There's a big title over it that says, What's Next?
And it's just an advertisement for a radio station for a news radio talk show, I guess.
But it's a full-size, huge picture of Bin Laden sitting there in his cave.
But I thought that was rather appalling.
But I saw Bob Graham on MSNBC last night, and he was talking about the informant
In San Diego, housing two terrorists, supposedly from 9-11, and the White House, the FBI said the White House, that they couldn't divulge the informant's name or subpoena him.
So they stalled that investigation.
That was by, I think, the first commission that he was talking about.
And, of course, Chris Matthews just kept saying, well, what's your proof?
What's your proof?
Well, the FBI said so.
Well, I mean, it's admitted that it was in Florida, it was in Illinois, it was in Arizona, it was in California and San Francisco and San Diego.
All over, the so-called hijackers and terrorists had the FBI paying for their houses, their cars, their credit cards, and there's the proof right there.
The other thing, you mentioned that, what was it, Dr. Barnett that was on Houston?
He said the military works for the corporations, it's a one world government, globalization, and we're going to work with Russia and China to enslave all these countries.
Did you see that?
I came home, I was actually taping, it was two hours of one of those book club things where they had all these, Paul Krugman and all these guys that are putting all this stuff out about, true stuff about Bush.
So I came home to watch that and I ended up waiting for an hour and a half watching that guy talk because I couldn't turn it off.
Did you see the part where he was talking about the new, what do you call it, the admin force?
Yeah, you're going to have these giant mercenary forces.
Yeah, they said the admin force would be like the peacekeeping force, larger and older.
They said that would be part of Northern Command, and they would be exempt from posse comitatus.
But they'd have the Marines and everybody else next to them there, too.
It wouldn't be all.
You know, nice guys or anything.
Yeah, I hear domestically.
You know, I went to bed.
I didn't watch all of it.
Did you tape that?
No, I didn't because I would have had to tape over the other thing.
Well, I want somebody to... It was amazing.
What was that guy's name?
Thomas Barnett?
Yeah, I got it written down.
Dr. Tom Barnett of the Navy War College.
And it was, yeah, like you said, Pentagon's New Map.
That was the title of it.
Man, it was so evil.
Thanks for the call.
Yeah, Dr. Breeding, just a few years ago, there's no global empire, there's no world government.
Now I watch a Pentagon two-hour meeting.
I watched like an hour and a half of it and turned it off, and it's just all how the world government's run by the corporations, and the military serves the corporations, and we're going to take over the planet, and Russia and China are going to help us.
What do you think of that?
I'm like old Peter in wherever, you know, I'm just kind of shaking my head.
But, I mean, they're just out in the open now.
Well, that's what I mean.
That's why I'm shaking my head, you know.
It's good to be out in the open.
At least, you know, they can be presented that way and have a conversation about it.
Absolutely.
We're going to have to break.
Come back.
We'll talk to Alan and Leon, and that'll be it for calls.
We'll hit one final news story about Russia plans for strikes against global terror bases.
Stay with us.
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Believe me, I've tried to convince myself it isn't true.
The more research we do, the worse we find out it actually is.
Dr. John Breeding's been our guest.
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Go sign his petition that lets the globalists know we're not going to put up with their new freedom initiative, and it'll help get some media attention and let the establishment know that we're not buying into what they're up to.
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Russia plans preemptive strikes against global terror bases.
Russia is prepared to launch preemptive strikes on bases used for training militants anywhere in the world, the senior general said Wednesday, after a joint Russia-NATO meeting in Brussels denounced the latest spate of attacks on Russian soil that killed over 400 people.
The evidence is clear, folks.
This thing stinks to high heaven.
We've caught Putin blowing up his own buildings before, okay?
And they now are going to merge with NATO and attack everybody.
And this is what I saw from a month ago that re-aired this weekend with the Pentagon's new map with one of their top high priests of war up there.
It's just all out in the open.
It's so sick.
Let's talk to Alan in Texas.
Alan, you're on the air with Dr. Breeding.
Go ahead.
Hello, John.
Hello, Alex.
Hi, Alan.
Good to talk with you both.
John, I wanted to let you know I am reading the book, The Misunderstandings.
True Nature and Great Misunderstandings.
I want the listeners to know that this book is not just a book about drugs and about the New World Order and the corporate takeover.
We all, as parents, have been somewhat misled through our upbringing.
We weren't raised with the wisdom and the clarity
That this man has and that he's offering us now.
I recommend this reading for anyone who has a kid, who has a kid who's going to have kids, who has a kid who has kids, who knows anybody who has kids.
Get the picture?
Speaking of the picture, there's a picture of my daughter ten years ago on the cover of that book, and anybody who buys the book will have that picture as well.
Well, it's a great book, and we carry both of them, and you get a big discount when you get both of them.
What else is on your mind, Alan?
Well, the Feds came out with a report last week that I heard on NPR, which I stopped supporting NPR.
I guess they're supporting Walmart now, so I just turned them off.
But last week I did hear a report.
The Feds had done a study again.
On the safety of these drugs and determined that, well, while they do make kids want to kill themselves, nobody has killed themselves, so they're recommending that doctors warn the parents that these drugs might make your kids... Masses of people have committed suicide.
I know that, and at one of John's fundraisers, there was a man up there, a father of a daughter who had hung herself after being on these drugs, and I thought, how can these guys...
It's like if I keep you in a closet, I sleep-deprive you, I drip water on your head for six months, and you kill yourself, but you can't prove I killed you, so I didn't kill you, and that type of treatment doesn't cause suicide.
I hear you.
Alan, I appreciate the call.
Great points.
Last caller, Leon.
Leon, welcome.
Thank you for taking my call, and I just wanted to say...
Thank you, Dr. Breeding, for your information, and I wanted to make sure I got this right.
Your website is wildestcults.com?
www.wildestcults, W-I-L-D-E-S-T-C-O-L-T-S dot com.
C-O-L-T-S?
Sir?
Yes.
Hey, sir?
Infowars.com.
There's a picture of Dr. Breeding under it, a link to his website.
Okay.
Well, I just wanted to say, you're right on.
I am a
Retired psychiatric social worker and I can't say how much you are right on about how crazy it is and how we are being misled and it makes me not feel so bad because I feel sad and I'm upset about it.
Thank you, Leon.
Sign on to our petition, man.
Yeah, you ought to call Dr. Breeding, write an article with him about your experiences, Leon.
I'm sorry we're out of time.
Call me back tomorrow, okay, Leon?
Because I want to hear more from you as a retired psychiatric social worker.
Dr. Breeding, thanks for coming on.
God bless you.
You too, Alex.
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