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Big Brother.
Mainstream media.
Government cover-ups.
You want answers?
He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
Well, so does he.
And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
All right, my friends.
Another week spans out before us.
It is Monday, the 21st day of June, 2004.
We'll be live for the next three hours.
Most Mondays we have Paul Joseph Watson with all of his insight and intellect joining us to cover a whole host of news in the second hour.
He's my webmaster for prisonplanet.tv and prisonplanet.com.
Then, of course, we've also got infowars.com.
I tell you, Mondays are a broadcast you never want to miss because there's so much news throughout the weekend.
More public officials, more military people being called off their watches in the Pentagon, the World Trade Centers.
And we have another example of this.
NMCC Ops Director asked substitute on 9-10 to stand his watch on 9-11.
Iran confiscates three British warships.
That's the headline out of the Associated Press.
A massive escalation.
And the Russians are now saying, the French are reporting, AFP is reporting, are putting together a huge fleet for war games, as most of our fleet is out.
93% of the eastern fleet from the eastern seaboard.
missiles kill 20 in Fallujah, 20 residents.
U.S.
Large-scale war game begins in Russia, Far East, Fleet Spokesman says.
Again, I just mentioned that.
That's AFP.
Israeli military working in Iraq.
This is how the London Guardian, we've already known that, but here it is, mainstream news.
Martial law threatened for Iraq, is the Financial Times of London headline.
Also, Saudis helped Al-Qaeda abduct American.
MSNBC's reporting.
But wait a minute.
It was our government...
Three weeks ago after the shootings in Cobar that admittedly ordered the release of Al-Qaeda.
So they're going to have trouble explaining that one.
A Patriot Act used to prosecute U.S.
civilian Associated Press.
This is the first article I really wanted to detail today because they've used it again against pot dealers, topless bar owners who pay off county commissioners for more parking for their zoning.
People who they think might have been involved in family violence.
The Justice Department said two years ago in testimony that they will use the Patriot Act against all crimes and that all suspicion of crime is terrorism.
And that's in Section 802.
But this is a real twist here.
The CIA, now listen to this, the CIA contract employee accused of abusing a prisoner in Afghanistan is being prosecuted under the Patriot Act in what legal experts are calling a surprising and to some troubling application of the new anti-terrorism law.
Now I guarantee you this is what was said at the Justice Department in Pentagon.
I got a great idea.
We'll charge this patsy.
With the Patriot Act.
Why would we do that?
He's one of ours.
I'll tell you why.
Because under the Patriot Act, he can't defend himself.
Anyone that we subpoena can't talk about the fact that they were subpoenaed or questioned, or they're considered terrorists.
And then we can say, oh look, we're using it applicably, even against our own people, not just against the Arabs.
See, it's fair now.
It's not discrimination.
By the way, that's all the Democrats have been asking for, is let's use this against everybody.
And the government goes, okay, well, it was designed for that to begin with, sure.
This guy deserves a jury.
He needs to be brought back to this country, back to where he lives, where he resides on his driver's license or whatever.
And he needs, a grand jury needs to see the evidence, and if there's evidence, they need to call for an indictment, and then he needs to be indicted, and then a jury of his peers, if he's tortured innocent people, or people, period, then he's going to get life in prison.
You do not use the Patriot Act on anybody.
Period.
It's unconstitutional.
Against any human being.
It's evil.
But that's how the conversation went.
Oh, the public will love it.
That way we can keep him quiet.
He can't defend himself.
We can blame it all on him as a patsy.
Insulate ourselves, giving the orders, and set the precedent to use it on citizens.
What a genius idea.
Well done, Lord Brunsfeld.
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Big Brother.
Mainstream media.
Government cover-ups.
You want answers?
Well, so does he.
He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
Much of the Atlantic Fleet, 93% of the ship's
Anchored on the entire East Coast, from Florida to Maine or out to sea, 10 carrier groups are record.
Meanwhile, the National French Newswire, AFP, is reporting that the Russians have told them that they've got huge fleet actions out.
In fact, there were several a week ago, two weeks ago, and now another being announced.
And meanwhile, the Iranians are saying that they have seized several...
We're good to go.
Quite an escalation, and this is being reported by the Iranians, picked up by the Associated Press, with some neocon publications saying, and I wouldn't believe it, just thinking they were trying to stir something up, but this adds a lot of validity to those saying that the Iranians have been massing troops on the Iran-Iraq border.
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All I know is the Project for a New American Century, Bush's think tank, his 25-man squad, Dick Cheney included, said they're going to invade 63 countries, and they've invaded two of those.
Actually, three.
They mentioned the Gold Coast of Africa.
So now they're down to 60 countries to invade, and they've been keeping their promises about butchering our freedoms and liberties.
They're openly announcing their secret police on the streets of America in Wired News and the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal and the Daily Texan and, of course, in Newsweek, and I mentioned Newsweek.
Just a lot of incredible things happening right now.
Also, last week, the 9-11 Whitewash Commission, appointed by Bush, run by Bush...
I mean, I predicted.
Again, I'm not tooting my horn.
We just know their paradigm.
I said weeks ago that they're going to come out and bring up a few issues, and they did.
Oh, NORAD really messed up and stood down on accident.
That's something everybody already knows.
They stood down, so they spent and say it was an accident.
We just need more funding and control.
That will certainly punish the people in there, more cash bonuses.
And then they said there was no evidence of al-Qaeda and Saddam because everybody already knows that.
It's come out.
Our generals have said it.
But then, Sunday, they go, oh, we just got new information.
One of Saddam's people may have been Al-Qaeda.
In fact, he was.
And, oh, this proves it all.
So, see, they do that to get your confidence.
Oh, look.
And then, oh, we were wrong.
It's like Colin Powell playing the part of the good cop.
Against the war, and Saddam isn't with Al-Qaeda, and they don't have weapons of mass destruction, and then he's the respectable dove, and...
The Democrats love him, other than the Democrats that are in power that are all for the war, the Hillarys, the Schumers, the Careys.
Then suddenly, he shifts gears and comes out and says, I'm for the war.
Look at these satellite photos.
Biological weapons depots.
Turns out they were bakeries.
The BBC went into them.
And look, I've got this weapons dossier just from England yesterday.
Hot off the presses.
The latest intelligence.
They're planning to hit us any minute.
They're working with Al-Qaeda.
Then it turns out it was written 12 years before that by a graduate student at Berkeley.
And they created fake weapons dossiers out of...
Out of Africa, out of Niger about uranium, and they ran to declared weapon sites for mobile trucks for pumping up dirigibles.
And, oh, they're anthrax labs when they had the serial number knowing that they were for pumping up balloons.
And they ran to mass graves that they knew were an exchange program between the Iranians and the Iraqis, been inspected by the UN a dozen times.
So they've gone through all of this.
And this is how they get your confidence.
And that's what the 9-11 Commission did.
Oh, Bush was wrong.
He didn't lie to you.
He was just mistaken about Saddam being with bin Laden.
And then, oh, two days later, we were wrong again.
Actually, he was.
Oh, see, the Commission tried to be as fair as possible, and now they're being honest with us.
The Independent Commission says Bush is just wonderful.
The Independent Commission appointed by Bush.
Bush, the same guy that says open borders, record amnesty he's proposing, is not an amnesty.
We should just believe all of this and stop thinking.
And another example of this, and I went over this in the last segment briefly, but I want to read more of the article.
This is out of the Associated Press.
It's on prisonplanet.com and infowars.com right now.
Patriot Act used to prosecute U.S.
civilians.
The CIA contract employee accused of abusing a prisoner in Afghanistan is being prosecuted under the Patriot Act in what legal experts are calling a surprising and to some troubling application of the new anti-terror law.
Attorney General John Ashcroft invoked the Patriot Act to assert jurisdiction in the case of David
Hasiro, who will be tried in federal court in Raleigh, North Carolina on four assault charges and the death of an Afghan man.
David Sheldon, a former Navy lawyer who now defends military personnel in court-martial proceedings, so the Justice Department may be going too far.
May be going too far, in my view, any time that the feds
The federal government is expanding its jurisdiction and reach to include conduct that occurs overseas.
That is startling, Sheldon said.
Well, the federal government can charge somebody for committing crimes overseas if it's in wartime.
That's what we do.
So, see, they act like we've got to have this just to charge you.
No, they don't.
And you know that, you lawyer.
Stop acting like you're the good cop.
But in announcing the indictment Thursday, Ashcroft said the government had few alternatives since American civilians working on contract with the CIA in Afghanistan and Iraq might not otherwise be subjected to U.S.
justice.
This case would have been more difficult to investigate and prosecute were it not for the U.S.
Patriot Act, Ashcroft said.
The act expands the U.S.
law enforcement jurisdiction over crimes committed by or against U.S.
nationals on land or facilities designated for use by the United States government.
Okay, why did they do this?
This is so classic.
And I guarantee you this was the discussion between Rumsfeld and Ashcroft and their deputies.
I'll tell you what we'll do.
How do we keep this patsy quiet?
You know, these guys all followed orders, and these generals and the low-level troops that are getting in trouble are all saying what they were ordered to.
How do we have gag orders on these people?
Well, we can hold them incommunicado.
Yeah, but that'll draw attention.
Well, we can use the Patriot Act.
We can say that it'll also make it look like the Patriot Act's useful and we're not just using it against Arabs.
We've got to have this tool.
That's been our line all along.
These are just basic tools we've got to have.
That way we can have a gag order on the guy, keep him quiet, keep all his friends quiet, keep all the witnesses quiet, because it's an act of terrorism.
If you've been questioned to even ever talk about it in perpetuity...
We're good to go.
I think?
Soldiers serving overseas are subject to military justice, but this individual is a civilian.
A federal law of the U.S.
Military Extraditional Jurisdiction Act of 2000 allows for the prosecution in U.S.
federal courts of civilians hired by the Defense Department, and it says, or the U.S.
military members and a few other types of people who accompany military personnel in foreign countries.
But the law is written in such a way that the CIA contractors are not subject to it.
And until Ashcroft's announcement, legal experts speculated the CIA contractors or those hired by other non-military branches of the government might avoid prosecution altogether for crimes committed in Iraq or Afghanistan.
And it says, Passerow, 38, of Willington, North Carolina, is being held without bail, accused of assaulting Abdul Wali, who died in custody at a U.S.
detention site in Afghanistan.
The incident...
The indictment said Wally had surrendered and was being questioned by Passereau about frequent rocket attacks.
So now I guess they're going to start charging these people with the Patriot Act and then they can't defend themselves.
And again, I don't know if he's guilty.
I don't believe anything this government has to say.
Probably is.
Who knows?
But he deserves all of his rights and all of his liberties and all of his freedoms, even though he was out denying that to others, reportedly.
So there you have it.
The Patriot Act being used against another U.S.
citizen, and this time one of their own henchmen, one of their own hatchet men, one of their own street thugs, one of their own soldiers.
And it's going to be used against a lot more of you.
Whenever they want to scapegoat you and keep your mouth shut while they're doing it to you, they're going to use this.
Of course, there's no discussion of those provisions in this article, but that's exactly what they're doing.
Coast to coast, they use the Patriot Act.
They go in to do a fraud investigation of a bookstore.
And they come in and they tell everybody, we're here, we're taking your computers.
You're not allowed to tell anybody we were here.
And if you do, we're going to charge you with terrorism.
Again, where did the First Amendment go?
Very, very serious.
All right, we're going to come back and take some calls.
Perhaps you want to comment on this.
And Bush gets a boost from McCain on Iraq saying he was right.
And Bush gets a boost from Clinton last week saying he was right.
And Bush just gets all these boosts.
His commission he appointed first says he was wrong about Saddam and al-Qaeda to get our confidence.
And then comes out and says, oh, we were wrong.
Actually, it was all true.
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Get into that.
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Every head that gets cut off is worth ten approval rating points for Bush.
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Coming up, we'll talk about the Russian fleet exercises, our government's exercises, Iranians claiming that they seized quite a few British ships in their waters.
That's from the Associated Press, by the way.
Quite an escalation if this is indeed true.
A bunch of news on the 9-11 Whitewash Commission, Patriot Act being used against American citizens, this time their own minions.
It's all coming up.
Right now, let's go to Anthony in Louisiana.
Anthony, welcome.
Hi, Alex.
Every time I call in, I want to ask you so many things, but I have a clarification for you.
I listen to a lot of your rebroadcasts on the Internet, and you had said one day that part of the torture charges in the prison was that they were pouring chemite acid on the torturees.
And you had said that it was phosphoric acid.
Well, I was in the Army for eight years, and I know that the liquid inside those lights is not acid, just to clarify.
Well, General Antonio Tagumba's report said acid.
And the news said acid, so I'm not... Well, maybe they're special chemical acids, because we used to bust them open and like... Yeah, you can go to the... Actually, MSNBC has the Tugumba Report, but if you just type Tugumba Report in it, you'd go to the Army's own website, and you can read it right there.
I mean, maybe it's wrong.
But the Tugumba Report talked about raping women, and now that's in the Associated Press and MSNBC today, grisly details of it.
Okay.
Yeah, I know.
I didn't bring that up to try to lighten... No, no, no.
It certainly could be.
That could be... The acid part in the report could not be true.
We don't know this government.
The other thing is when I discuss the New World Order with people, the current barrier that I'm finding is like, hey, what do you think about the New World Order?
And the one, the very few who even know about it, they go like, oh, when they talk about the New World Order, they only mean like, you know,
We're good to go.
I think?
Never define what they see.
Thanks for the call, Anthony.
H.G.
Wells defined the New World Order.
Adolf Hitler defined the New World Order.
David Rockefeller defined the New World Order.
It is called global governance.
And they go, we're not for global government.
We're for global governance.
Well, governance is government.
It's doublespeak.
I mean, it's incredible.
And so, I mean, we can see what world government is.
Our Supreme Court's saying they're going to follow UN rulings.
I'm sure you've all heard that.
Paying more money into the IMF and World Bank.
The UN Tobin tax on money transfers.
A global fuel tax, which they're proposing.
That's global government.
A global tax, a global army, a Pan-American Union, a European Union, an Asian Union, regulated by the World Trade Organization.
See, unelected, this board of private individuals, I mean, that's world government.
That's the New World Order.
Getting rid of juries, going after your private property, big corporations going after your private property.
That's the New World Order.
Most people deny it even exists, as Rush Limbaugh says it doesn't exist.
Let's go ahead and talk to John in Ohio.
John, go ahead.
Yes, Alex.
I want to talk about my call to Coast to Coast concerning having you on and also discussing the anthrax letters.
But also, if you have time, I wanted to talk about something I heard on the Power Hour this morning that was some of the most vicious, obscene neocon propaganda ever.
I've heard.
It was ten times worse than Michael Savage and Rush Limbaugh.
Okay, go ahead, sir.
But I called Coast to Coast when they had a guest on who was peddling his book, pushing the usual scaremongering about anthrax coming from some foreign source.
I called up, and I started out by saying, though I'm not a conservative, I understand.
I've heard that Alex Jones is waiting for you to follow through on your invitation to have him on solo.
And then I went on to mention that
This anthrax that was in those letters a couple years ago was actually, according to the top Federation of American Scientists... The most weaponized anthrax ever seen out of Fort Detrick, Maryland.
There was an official government study in 1999 of how to send weaponized anthrax to the mail, sent back to the U.S.
government.
And then he went on and tried to make it sound like it was sourced again.
The guest?
The guest, yeah.
That is the usual...
Uh... a profile of everyone that's on there.
And today I was listening to that same type of thing because one of the constant guests on our Coast to Coast is the Steven Quayle.
And I can't think of anyone who peddles the neocon propaganda in the guise of some kind of an alternative point of view than him.
There was somebody who called in and said that this poll in Iraq that said that 98% of the people consider it
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Coming up, Iran confiscates three British warships.
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Large-scale war games begins in Russia.
Far East, a fleet spokesman says.
Martial law threatened for Iraq.
Saudis helped al-Qaeda abduct American.
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Patriot Act being used against U.S.
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One of their reported torture masters.
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Okay, I'm about to go back to your calls.
I just want to say this to you, John, because you called last week with some of the same stuff, and I think you brought up a lot of good points about politics, and we've got a big tent here for people that love liberty, whether they call themselves the left or right.
I don't believe in the left or right.
I believe in freedom versus slavery, and I want freedom, not slavery.
Serfdom.
But, I mean, really, I kind of have a rule, and there's no screening the calls, there's no censorship here, and you're allowed to talk about it, but I'm going to tell you I don't like it.
I don't like bashing other...
I don't want to get into a thing here.
I'm focused on them using the Patriot Act against citizens.
I'm focused on the New World Order.
All the other shows are focused on each other, frankly.
And, you know, I'm thankful to Coast to Coast AM for having me on.
It's 14 million listeners an hour.
I get to reach millions of people, have a big effect.
I think that overall is good.
But you can finish up what you had to say because I don't censor people.
Go ahead.
Yeah, well, I think it's not left to right either.
But I think anyone, whether they're an honest leftist or a conservative such as yourself, has to see that the most extreme version of this neocon cover-up story
Well, PNAC is a criminal confession.
We're good to go.
I think?
Neocons are preparing.
Everything he says is along those lines.
You know what I'll do?
I'll get Steve on this week and call him when he's on.
Thanks for the call, John.
I've got to move quicker here or I won't get to anybody.
Wesley in Tennessee.
Wesley, go ahead.
Excuse me.
Alex, I called to apologize to you and to the listening audience.
I'm really sorry I allowed myself to get suckered into a shouting match with that moron that you had on Friday.
Hello?
Hello?
Talking about George Woolley.
Yeah, I mean, the temerity of this guy.
I know you don't need anybody to fight your battles for you.
You do a real good job on your own.
But I just couldn't help but wade in there because this condescending son of a gun has the temerity to corner you in a place where he knows there's nobody else around listening and tells you that he thinks you belong in jail for your exercise of free speech.
And then he has the nerve to come onto your show
And say, oh yeah, Alex, I'm really in favor of your seeking out the truth, and I think you really should have the right to free speech, too.
Well, look, I don't think George is bad, but that's why we have him on, is because George ran my TV show for about, I don't know, eight, nine months back in like 1995.
Amazing.
And George, listen, George has been in jail for pro-life peaceful demonstration.
George, I respect George.
And that's why I have him on is because to watch his blind spot.
We all have a blind spot.
He has his big blind spot for anything basically Republican.
And so I bring him on because he is atypical.
Is that the right term?
He is typical of a lot of good people that are conned by Bush's rhetoric and who aren't looking at Bush's actions.
But what else is on your mind, Wesley?
Well, I was just going to say, you've got a lot more patience than I do, and I admire you for the fact that you're willing to, in spite of his ill treatment toward you,
You still give the guy credit where credit is due, and I think that's... Well, that's because I know his heart's in the right place.
I mean, I'm trying to deprogram him.
Thanks for the call.
I appreciate it.
But you had to hear the show to know what Wesley's talking about.
I heard some of the rebroadcasts this weekend.
I listened to about an hour of myself, and it was something else.
It's pretty scary.
I shouldn't laugh.
But let's go ahead and talk to Chris in Texas.
Chris, go ahead.
Welcome.
Hey, Alex.
Hello!
Um... Well, um... I've subscribed to, um, Isn'tTiny.TV and, uh... I was thinking it was going to be something really great and we were going to get some good content and all that kind of stuff and I emailed Paul saying that all we were going to get was... All we're getting right now is, um, a bunch of, uh... Well, we've got corrupted videos where we can't even watch them
And he basically said I was being rude.
Are you calling from England?
Yeah, no, I'm calling from Texas.
Are you Irish?
Oh, okay.
Yeah, I'm English.
You're English?
I was just trying to place the accent.
Yeah.
And I basically just got a bunch of abuse off.
Not abuse, per se.
Well, Paul just basically said, well, what do you expect?
You know, everyone charges this, everyone charges that.
Okay, well, let me just stop you right there, sir.
I have prisonplanet.tv, and we put a weekly report up there.
And by the way, this week, let me stop you.
This week we are going to put three videos up.
For some reason, this one file we tried to upload three times stops halfway through.
I mean, people make mistakes, but what you're doing, sir, is supporting us with $5.95 a month to sign up at the website.
And we put the best radio interviews up there, and we do all this.
We're building it.
We're adding to it.
We've got all my films up there.
Well, that's good.
I mean, for Bessie, the reply I got off Paul was, well, you're just subsidizing everyone else who's
You know, I was getting stuff for free.
Well, no, no, I said that on air.
Paul's echoing.
Let me just finish what I'm saying.
Is that we can't continue if people don't support us.
I can't pay $3,000, $4,000 a month because I don't make that much money.
Let me finish.
Because for years I've had all my videos up there for free and they got so popular that I can't do it.
So about half the stuff's free because the object is getting new people, educating, defeating the new world order.
And so I said to people,
Sign up.
Let me finish.
Let me finish.
I said sign up.
That's what I say every time I plug it.
Sign up and subsidize us waking others up because that's the goal is defeating the New World Order and not being enslaved because we don't sit here and ask for give us donations.
We say buy the videos, buy the books.
Hey, sign up to this website.
Support us.
If you believe in what we're doing, support us and subsidize others waking up.
So you should feel good about that.
Yeah, I do feel good.
I've bought all your videos.
I've met you personally.
I've distributed at my own cost copies of your own videos.
Good.
Thank you.
I love it.
But then when I try and talk to Paul, I just get some kind of reply back from him basically saying, well, what do you expect?
You know, what do you expect?
You're just paying for everyone else?
You want me to slap him around for you?
No, I just... I'll tell you what I want.
I want archives of your show.
On the side, because not everyone can listen to your side.
Okay, listen, listen.
All right, listen.
That's fine.
We've spent four minutes on this.
Do you have... Are you concerned about Patriot being used against citizens?
Of course.
Are you concerned about the... No, no, I'm not.
That's why I'm... No, I know you're concerned.
I'm making copies of your videos.
I know you're... But what I'm saying is that... Do you want to talk about that?
Grabbing your website, that's why I'm buying your videos.
That's why I'm funding this.
You know...
Okay.
All right, well, that's good.
Whatever, man.
No, I appreciate it.
I'm just saying.
Oh, I'm sure you do.
And that's why we don't screen the calls.
We can do customer service right here on the air.
Yeah, well, that's good then, isn't it?
It sounds to me like you're angry, bro.
Yeah, I am, because we're putting stuff in.
We're helping you out.
We're paying your bills.
And then we get some website, which Paul Watson...
It's been on your show.
Okay.
Sir, I'm going to let you go.
I appreciate it.
It sounds like you're even more angry than before.
I tried talking to you.
And so just email us and we'll work it out with you.
Either way, okay?
Thank you.
Let me cover some news and then I'll go right back to the calls here in just a second.
And I do want to thank all those that have some at prisonplanet.tv.
You know, 98% of people are pleased.
Some aren't.
And we're building it, making it better and better.
And so, you know, that's the bottom line there.
But...
And we appreciate you too, Chris, and thank you so much.
But none of us are perfect.
We're a very small organization.
If we have more funds and more support, I can hire more people and do a better job.
If you want to know who's up at night uploading videos, you're listening to him right now.
And
So we need to get more support so I can do that.
These 18-hour days have been crying havoc on me as well, but I'm going to continue to move forward and try to do the best I can.
I'm not CBS or ABC or Viacom.
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I'm not.
Let me see.
There's me and then there's three part-time employees.
And if we get support, we can hire more people and do better for you.
And that's the whole point of this, sir.
So thank you for the call.
Look, let me get into some news before this hour ends, and I'm going to go right back to your calls here in just a few minutes to Dave and Andy and many others that are patiently holding.
Patriot Act used to prosecute U.S.
civilians.
I went over that, but it's a big, big deal.
Now one of the supposed people involved in torture is having his rights stripped and his right to speak out stripped.
That way when they burn a patsy, they can't.
Defend themselves and say, hey, I was ordered to do this.
Associated Press reporting, Iran confiscates three British warships.
Iran confiscated three British warships Monday and arrested eight armed crew members, state-run television reported.
So these are little gunboats.
The report said...
In London, the Ministry of Defense said it was investigating the report but did not know it was true.
The ministry said there was no British warships operating in Shat al-Arab waterway, but some smaller vessels were there.
We are assisting the Iraqi water police there, so it may be one of those vessels.
A spokesman said on condition of anonymity, we don't know.
So we don't know, but that's the Associated Press.
And if this is true, which obviously is official Iranian news, they're not going to be escalating.
I mean, even if it isn't true and the Iranians are saying this, this is a scary escalation because they've been trying to de-escalate.
So what was really going on?
I don't know.
Very, very serious.
Large-scale war game begins in Russia, Far East.
Fleet spokesman, AFP, that's the equivalent of French Associated Press.
Some 800 servicemen from all over Russia were taking part in a large-scale military exercise that started early Monday and will last until Friday in the country's Far Eastern region, which is a large simulation.
Spokesman for the Pacific Fleet said the water war game...
Code-named Mobility 04 has involved Army and Navy troops, as well as paratroopers, and is a simulated reaction to a military threat.
The spokesman added, Russian Defense Ministry Sergei Inovov, a close ally to President Vladimir Putin, was to fly to the Pacific port city of...
Well, out of Vastok, later Monday, to supervise the drills.
Large-scale military exercise held in Russia's Far East, laid back to August of last year.
But this is a tiny exercise compared to large parts of their fleet out in the Atlantic, out in the Pacific now, record levels.
And ten of our aircraft carriers, never before happened, launched 93%, that's all their task force groups, support ships, frigates, and destroyers, and battleships.
Well, not battleships.
They don't even have any battleships anymore.
No.
The last one was the Arizona, you know what I mean.
Cruisers, that's the word, out about.
Cruising towards the Mediterranean, the Med, and into the Arabian Sea and other places.
And I got family telling me war is on with Syria here real soon.
Wonder what they're going to use to trigger that.
Maybe it could be Iran, like some are saying.
I don't know.
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Alright, let's go back to your calls.
We've got Paul Watson coming up.
We'll get into martial law threatened for Iraq.
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Let's talk to Dave in Michigan.
Dave, welcome, sir.
Hey, Alex.
Hello.
The largest...
The surface vessel the Russians have are the Kirov-class cruisers.
They're about 13,000 tons.
13,000 tons?
That sounds pretty small.
That is!
Compared to a Missouri-class battleship, they were about 40,000 tons, and our biggest aircraft carriers are about 80,000.
So they really don't have a Blue Ocean Navy anymore except for their subs.
Yes.
They had on the European Journal yesterday about the Russian recruits in the Navy going through training.
Yes.
They beat to death a thousand of them a year.
Well, I knew that they're very rough.
I know that the Spitsnats training is some of the toughest in the world.
They use live fire and kill a lot of people in the training.
These are just swabbies.
They beat a thousand of them to death a year in the process of training them.
Which is about what the British Navy did before 1812, you know.
I knew that, yeah.
Flogging and kill hauling.
Yeah, back in the good old days, you know.
If you were rude to somebody, they'd hang you.
Well, what I really called about was, you see the...
The tape that the Al-Qaeda's released with the South Korean guy.
Yeah, Al-C-I-A-D-A, you mean?
Yeah.
And every time we track back these videos, it's being uploaded from London or L.A., from Republican PR front groups.
Very interesting.
Funny that Al-Qaeda's just nice folks.
See the phony baloney flag they had on the wall behind them?
I don't see that.
The black flag with a solar disk on it, you know, in gold.
And then they had the letters on the top where the, you know, there's no God but Allah, the true God, Muhammad is his prophet.
Yeah, I'm looking at a picture of it right now.
I can't figure out what it said underneath it, but why would it have a solar disk on it?
Because Yahweh and Allah are both lunar gods.
Both their calendars are based on moon cycles.
I've never seen any... Well, that is true.
The globalists are... The New World Order Islam flag.
That's what it is.
Yeah.
Very, very interesting, sir.
I didn't know that Judaism was based on the moon.
I know the Islam is.
The calendar is a lunar calendar, whereas the Aryan people up in Europe, they had the solar calendar.
I know that.
And so were the Indians in India.
The swastika is a sun symbol.
Yeah, it's a sun wheel.
Okay, thanks for the call.
Very interesting.
Let's go ahead and take another call.
Let's talk to Andy.
Andy in Colorado.
Go ahead, Andy.
Alex, I think you're wrong on a couple of things.
Okay.
I think what you're doing is great, but I think with you trying to get this word out and you think you're going to change things, I think you're wrong.
I think you're just basically preparing those that are thoughtful enough who want to pursue the truth to follow it out.
What I want you to do is I want you to give us
Some advice on what would you personally do when they would come for you or your kids?
Do you have kids, Alex?
Yes, I do.
See, I'm 30 years old.
I've got two sons.
And when they come to put this chip in you or call you for the drop, I want to know what you personally would do or what you'd have us do because it's going to happen.
I don't think it's going to get better.
I think it's going to get worse.
I think even the Bible says if you follow the Bible...
The Bible talks about how bad it's going to get.
Yeah, but the Christians, the supposed Christians, all of them are going to be teleported out of any trouble, so they're all rejoicing at the chip.
Of course, when they start giving them the chip, they'll go, well, it must not be the Antichrist, because I haven't been raptured.
Yeah.
You know what, then?
Bottom of the next hour, be listening.
I'll try to spend five, ten minutes on the subject.
It's a complex question, and I'll try to get into it.
Cover one more thing about the National Geographic.
I missed that in...
This is June 2004 issue.
You talking about the 100 greatest vintage photos?
Um, it's the one with oil on the front.
Well, I mean, National Geographic.
I talked about how they had a Bohemian Grove photo in there.
Is that what you're talking about?
Maybe.
I have the issue.
I just want to know what you had to say about it.
Okay, thanks.
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Alright, ladies and gentlemen, we're on the air here.
And we've got Paul Watson with us, the webmaster for PrisonPlanet.com and PrisonPlanet.tv.
We're now into the second hour.
And so much has happened.
So much is going on.
We've got Iran confiscating three British warships.
They call them warships.
They're some type of gunboat.
And we've got more public officials, people in government, being warned to get out of work and having their substitutes stand in for them.
We've got McCain worshipping Bush saying the Iraq war is just wonderful.
Good neocon that he is, the good Manchurian candidate that he is.
We've got now MSNBC detailing the rape of women brutally, just innocent people picked up at checkpoints at these torture centers.
That was in the Tugumbo report, the General's report months ago, but now here it is.
Just so much to cover, and of course we have loaded phone lines at 1-800-259-9231.
Paul, good to have you on with us today, my friend.
Good to be back, Alex.
There is a lot that's happened over the weekend, just so much we're going to be blitzing through, but what do you think some of the most important stuff is on our plate right now?
Well, obviously three of our top stories are Iraq, since the developments on Friday, the basic announcement that they're going to go ahead and consider placing Iraq under martial law.
Obviously the Johnson beheading and Bush plans to screen a whole U.S.
population for mental illness.
They're, you know, three of our top stories at the moment.
Oh, I didn't mention that.
And Europe's talking about that.
They're trying to pass a bill where if a government psychiatrist says you might have a problem, you can disappear for years.
Forced drugging, our Supreme Court has said that too.
And now Bush is going to screen the entire population.
They have this thing called New Freedom.
Here in Texas, a pilot program to screen the children to put them on Prozac-type drugs, and that's going to go nationwide.
So 1 in 10 in England isn't enough on the drugs.
Now 1 in 6 boys in America are being on some of these drugs.
1 in 10 girls.
Now they want to expand that poll with the federal government.
Yes, we should talk about that.
Well, yeah, and you gave the European example, and I mean, that shows the dangers, because they're trying to pass a bill in Britain which will legislate forced electroshock treatment, which is, you know, electric shocks to the brain.
But didn't O'Brien do that to Winston in 1984?
Isn't that freedom?
Well, exactly.
And it's obviously against the person's will, as well as compulsory detention.
No kind of criminal activity.
But it won't be against their will after we've run high moldings through their head a hundred times.
They'll love us.
Well, the definition of being mentally ill in this bill is not someone who has committed any kind of crime, but someone who has...
A personality disorder, and who defines what a personality disorder is?
The government-funded, controlled health experts.
Well, Harvard's put out stuff that you're either a racist or mentally ill if you believe in the New World Order, that it's a mental illness.
They have whole courses that believing in a conspiratorial worldview, which, look at Rome, the Caesars, all the backstabbing, the manipulation.
I mean, look at every country.
I mean, that's historical fact, but if you believe that now, Paul, we're going to have to...
Well, they came out and they're authorizing for mental illness or for depression this wire into the brain to make us feel better.
After we all have this, if they're going to force us on drugs by the millions, why not the new wire to the brain, Paul?
Well, yeah, and you mentioned the historical example.
The BBC article which talks about the mental health bill in Britain
I spoke to someone who was in opposition to the bill who stated, Nazi Germany and the USSR were probably not the only countries in which socially or politically unacceptable behavior was regarded as a manifestation of a disorder of the mind.
So as you mentioned, questioning the government means that you're mentally ill.
And I've seen articles that say that.
So see, they don't even have to use the Patriot Act to not have a trial.
It's just, Paul, thoughts on bad things, and...
Paul's in solitary confinement getting treatment right now.
And once they release you, Paul, you're going to love Big Brother once your mind's gone.
Proving you were mentally ill, you admit it now.
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We're talking to Paul Watson.
Yeah, Paul, that's a good place to start.
I have the articles here in front of me.
I didn't even mention them in the last hour.
Should have the entire U.S.
population to be screened for mental illness or a propensity to be mentally ill.
We may need to be treated to make sure we don't become mentally ill.
In fact, about three years ago, the governor of Oregon, who was a psychiatrist himself, said that they were going to check women before they even had their baby, while they were pregnant, environmental statistics and things, to decide if they should start drugging of children at birth.
I mean, this is a total brave new world, but let's get into that and what's happening in England and how this was used in Russia and Nazi Germany.
Well, yeah, it was from the British Medical Journal who said a sweeping mental health initiative will be unveiled by President Bush in July.
The plan promises to integrate mentally ill patients fully into the community by providing services in the community rather than institutions.
So they're going to go out into the community and test people for this.
I mean, it's even a level deeper than something like hate crime.
Saying that you don't agree with homosexuality and, you know, the Senate just passed the bill last week including homosexuality in the hate crimes list.
Saying that might not just be hateful anymore but actually a sign of mental disorder.
So it's the brave new world soma state when the terms of definition are so broad the government can classify anyone as mentally ill and subject them to forced detention, forced electroshock and forced drugging.
And by the way, a BBC top presenter who I interviewed a couple of years ago at a land rights meeting...
Northern England said rural communities deserve the same rights as Muslims and homosexuals.
The word homosexual was considered a banned word now in England, and they came and arrested him.
It was in the news.
We interviewed him.
And then we have other headlines of raids where hundreds of homes are hit
By the Hate Crimes Police Division of Scotland Yard.
And it was for people who neighbors had said, had heard them say a racist word or xenophobic.
You know, I don't like French produce.
Farmers were arrested for saying it was bad.
Or that they wanted to stay on the pound measure instead of the metric.
I mean, that's a xenophobic.
Folks, we're not making this up.
It's like some dystopic, you know, science fiction book or something.
But it's really happening.
Well, yeah, Congress just passed the Bill S-625.
You know, it makes it criminal to, quote, hurt the feelings of homosexuals.
Canada already passed the same bill, basically.
And again, for all these bleeding hearts, oh, well, don't be mean to a group.
The point is, if they take that right to say that, they'll take anybody's rights, people.
It's about the First Amendment, period.
Well, yeah, I mean, it's basically the militant homosexual movement and, you know, movements like that preach tolerance until they're blue in the face, but they won't tolerate any criticism of their movement, which is why preachers who quote the Bible are being arrested now, because it's criminalized the Bible.
A year ago, Pennsylvania passed a law saying that it could be criminal or civil to read from certain passages of the Bible.
Yeah, and they use the same thing with anti-Semitism.
So it's any opposition to the New World Order is now hatred.
Yeah, they try to link that up, which it isn't the case, but they just try to say that.
I mean, folks, you can obviously see where this is going.
So they're going to have in the streets testing you.
You're going to have to come in and be tested.
And it says that if your child ever gets in any type of trouble late for class, they're going to go through psychological testing, and then they're going to say you have to go on the drugs, the deadly drugs.
I mean, this is the new freedom.
Forcing vaccines into our bodies.
Forcing drugs into our bodies.
Sounds very conservative, Paul.
Well, yeah, and I mean, the biggest peddlers of hate are, you know, the leaders of the feminist movement.
We had an article about this from Henry Macau over the weekend who took examples from feminist leaders like Marilyn French who said that all men were rapists and that heterosexual sex was rape.
And also on top of that, and this is just amazing, Gloria Steinem admits that Miss Magazine was created by the CIA and that she was a CIA agent.
She admitted that in one of her books.
It's meant to break men and women up.
It's like O'Brien says to Winston in 1984.
We're here to destroy the family.
Then I get a UT textbook used by people going to school to be social workers, and it says the future is the state, the past is the family, the family is a disease.
That's the whole movement, is to destroy the family unit by, you know, so-called women's empowerment when it's actually a form of enslavement, because it's balkanizing families, destroying families, and bringing up children in this kind of Marxist mindset, which is pro-state and always anti-family.
Which, again, Brian, while torturing Winston, tells him in 1984, because we must destroy the family because all allegiance must be owed to the party, to the government.
They're following textbook tyranny, Paul, right in front of us.
Well, exactly.
We can get into Iraq because it's the same blueprint again.
We had this bombing in Fallujah on Saturday that killed 20 civilians.
And, you know, from country to country, it's the same.
You create the very instability that justifies the draconian measures.
Well, here's an article.
Dr. Darrell Reger, Director of Research for the American Psychiatric Association, lauded the President's initiative and the Texas Project model, saying what's nice about TMAP is that this is a logical plan based on efficacy data from clinical trials.
They have this thing called New Freedom.
Talk about an Orwellian term where Eli Lilly and others go around the state testing all the school children in the schools to see if they need to be put on Prozac.
I mean, folks, it doesn't end.
And they admit this stuff causes massive increases in suicide, but so they're going to expand it.
I tell you, Paul, it's just getting worse and worse, isn't it?
It's kind of a brinksmanship thing.
Well, it is, yes.
I mean, the benchmark that I take it is whether they are going to go ahead and push the envelope on this draft in the spring of 2005.
So I see it as a kind of brinksmanship from now until then.
I think we've got about a year of just backing them off before they really decide to push the envelope and go ahead with this draft in a year's time.
Well, Paul, why are you against New Freedom?
I mean, that's what the Texas program's called.
It says, but the Texas Project, which promotes the use of newer, more expensive antidepressants and antipsychotic drugs... See, it's not enough to put your child on Ritalin or Prozac or lithium, but they have new superpower drugs that turn you into zombies.
Listen to this.
But the Texas Project, which promotes the use of newer, more expensive antidepressants and antipsychotic drugs...
Again, the program in the schools is run by the drug companies.
Sparked off controversy when Alan Jones, an employee with the Pennsylvania Office of Inspector General, revealed that key officials with influence over the medication plans in his state received money and perks from drug companies with a stake in medication algorithm.
And that's May 15th, the Medical Journal report, page 1153.
He was sacked the week after speaking to the BMJ and the New York Times.
I mean, the drug companies that are pushing all this, I think the figures in the British Medical Journal report were, you know, 82% of their donations have gone to the Bush re-election campaign, so it's all tied into the government intimately, which is why they're introducing this.
So, folks, there...
You think it's bad that one in six boys is on some type of drug, one in ten girls, one in ten everybody, period, even adults averaging in England, so it's much worse with children.
The numbers are much worse than one in ten in England, and we already have that here.
Now it's going to be even worse, where all the students are tested.
So it's a psychiatric facility.
Gates, fences, you're being frisked, thumb scanning to get school lunches.
Writing journals on your parents, being given tattletale cards.
I mean, this is hell on earth, Paul.
Well, it goes right down to the whole thrust of genetic research, which is, you know, about identifying aggressive genes and extracting them, you know, in the womb and things like that.
So it's going right down to birth.
They're discussing, again, licensing parents, doing a test of them beforehand to, quote, see if they have aggressive hate genes.
Folks, that's been in major newspapers.
I'm not kidding.
And again, there was a proposal to, I think it was, put kids in a detention center in Britain who had been identified as possessing these aggressive genes.
Yeah, that was the London Guardian a few months ago.
It's pre-crime.
Again.
Well, what's wrong with arresting children who may be aggressive?
Who show tendencies?
I mean, what's wrong with testing people's genetics?
That sounds like freedom, Paul.
I mean, wasn't Brave New World freedom?
Well, yeah, and so is SOMA, and I think we should all take it and just calm down and stop asking questions about it.
Well, Paul, I mean, if they can force tens of millions of children on these drugs, and they're going to radically expand that now, thanks to Lord Bush and the globalists, they're now coming out saying for mental illness or depression, a wire into the brain.
It's a quick surgery, a little port on your neck, and soon, once this wire's in your brain, Paul, the pain's all going to be gone.
You'll be one of us, Paul.
Well, yeah, I mean, there was a report in the Washington Post about two years ago which said that in 50% of cases from, you know, placebos versus Prozac, the placebo is actually more effective in curing depression.
Well, just don't confuse me with the facts, Paul.
Once you've got the little port in your neck and it's been on TV, we're all going to be getting our little wires into our brains.
The Army has said, I mean, you don't like that?
That doesn't sound good to you?
Well, no.
I mean, questions are, you know, questions are a burden to others.
Answers are prison for oneself, as, you know, it was in the classic prisoner theory.
So, yeah, it's a Kafka-esque, basically, Brave New World, Soma State, cradle-to-grave drugging on behalf of the government.
Well, I tell you, but if you use any of the illegal drugs they ship in, they'll grab you and put you in their little private prison, which the drug dealers own.
Well, yeah, and that's why, you know, they had to go into Afghanistan to massively increase the output of opium, to get it onto the streets of London and New York, which is flooded, you know, in on record levels.
So, I mean, people take those drugs and think that, you know, it's anti-state when the state themselves ships them in.
They think they're, you know, a form of rebellion when it's actually the biggest form of enslavement they could partake in.
That's right.
Well, the globalists are our bosses, Paul.
I mean, you know.
They said, feds have said 30 million will be in prison by the end of this decade.
Five years ago it was 33 million by 2025.
Now they've changed the estimate to 2010.
And they're filling the prisons, building more.
I mean, I guess we'll all be there.
I'll see you there.
We'll be drugged and electro-shot and we'll love Big Brother.
We'll be right back.
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We'll go ahead and go to all the great callers that have been patiently holding, and then I want to get into... Oh man, there is so much stuff here.
But imagine every child in America, and they're going to try to force adults to do it, take psychological tests.
I mean, this is the Soviet Union on steroids, and we can't even see it.
And it's a Republican doing it, and so the neocon minions out there are going to love it!
I'm not your slave!
I know your evil New World Order!
They admit that these Prozac-type drugs increase suicide risk massively, so they cover it up, and they expand the programs.
I mean, folks, you've got to get your minds around how serious this is.
Paul, you ready to go to some calls?
Yeah, sure.
Up next is Lisa in Michigan, then Rob, Kyle, Chris, and others.
Lisa, go ahead.
Hi, Alex.
Hello.
Hey, I just wanted to tell you, you know, you've got a great show, and I really appreciate all the things that you've been looking up for.
All of those who are watching for the day of the Lord to come.
I wanted to ask you a question.
Yes, ma'am.
Actually, one of the other callers just called you and asked you pretty much, you know, what you would do if they came to get you to put the chip and stuff in you.
Yeah, and I intend to go over that.
Oh, that's great.
What I wanted to ask you, so similar to that, but it is, if you could know for sure that...
Your particular cause, the cause that you have to, you know, stop the New World Order, to have us all raise up and lift up our voices and stuff and what, you know, people believe this still is a free country, however we know it's not.
But if you knew for sure that there was no way for us to win this, what would you then tell people?
Well, number one, I mean, that question is what's been programmed into our minds.
It isn't either way to feed us or we win.
You can never give in to evil, even if you're going to lose to evil.
You have to wake up and warn people so they can see the evil, so they don't take the vaccines with the cancer viruses and mercury, so they don't take the illegal drugs shipped in by the drugs thinking it's cool.
Let me finish.
So they don't.
Yeah, that's the problem.
Christians in Rome thought they were about, you know, that is not how it works.
That's right.
It's a giant cop-out, and I just show people the historical facts, and all of this is coming into play, and Christians are saying Bush is, you know, basically God's chosen one.
We've got to do everything he says.
May I ask one more question?
Okay.
Yeah, go ahead.
Okay.
Well, first of all, you know, I don't believe that there's a rapture, and I am a Christian.
I mean, I believe there's a rapture.
I just believe that we are going to go through hell first.
You know, we're going to go and be tried just like it was in Jesus' day.
His apostles went and they were tried.
They went out and preached the word and they got killed.
Well, I mean, it says that the beast makes war on the saints and overcomes them.
How does he make war on the saints if they've all been teleported out of here?
Okay, so this is what I want to see.
I just cover the news.
People make their own decisions.
Well, this is what I'm saying.
I've been listening to you.
I feel people listen to you every day because you really help those who know this is coming to watch.
And it says, watch, lest he come as a thief and a knight.
And so this is what I wanted to bring up, was if people can believe that we are going to go through tribulation, what I would like for people to know from your show is that it's going to happen.
It's happening, and I hear you say every day, I know you are a strong fighter.
I have seen you fighting, and I know that you also know
Well, it's not coming, ma'am.
Evil's always been here.
I'm going to let you go.
Paul Watson, comments?
Thanks for the call.
Well, yeah.
The question was basically, you know, when do you know that it's all coming down and when do you know how to react?
It's not going to be like it was in Nazi Germany.
It's not the boot stamping on the human face analogy because they're in it for the long game.
It's a process of gradualism.
So I don't think you will get an exact point which anyone can identify where the agenda truly comes to ground zero.
So, even to enter into that mindset that, you know, what are we going to do when they win?
That in itself is enemy propaganda, because the whole point is to back them off further and further.
Yeah, we're talking about creeping death as their main mode.
Yeah, they know that people are going to react, and that there is going to be a mass uprising.
Which is why, as a new scientist reported, there's this whole new wave of, you know, microwave heating the skin non-lethal weapons which are being sold at alarming rates to US and European police forces so they know when they push the envelope that there is going to be a reaction from a sizable minority of people.
And so we have to get outside the box, point out how they're preparing for the reaction, point out their blueprint, and that hurts them badly.
They're four years behind, according to people I trust and my own analysis.
Four years.
I mean, believe me, if we weren't here fighting them, things would be much worse.
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All right, Paul.
What's some of the other news we're going to get to, and then I want to blitz through some calls and get back into the news.
I've got a bunch I want to talk about here, but what are some of the things you think are most important today, Paul?
I think it's important to expose this new Iraqi Prime Minister who basically was running CIA terrorist operations in the 90s.
They admit blowing up movie theaters full of women and children.
Yeah, I mean, his name's obviously Ayad Alawi.
He was a big buddy of Shalabi, a former Ba'ath Party member, who at one point was carrying out assassinations for Saddam.
He was then funded by the World Health Organization, MI6, and the CIA, and his group, the Iraqi National Accord, the INA, which was described by the New York Times as a terrorist organization.
But see, when we blow up school buses and theaters, it's loving and Christian.
But when they do it, it's the ultimate evil on Earth.
Well, it's the ultimate evil either way.
Well, the neocons love it.
I mean, O'Reilly a few days ago called for bombing Iraq again, just like the Balkans, he said.
Well, you heard our guest Friday.
I don't know if you did hear, Wooley.
I mean, he said nuke their major cities.
Yeah, which is what O'Reilly said as well, you know, regarding Fallujah.
And he said that the Iraqis were primitive and didn't deserve freedom.
But he didn't say we should just pull out altogether and leave them to it.
He actually said we should pull out but just keep bombing the country over and over again.
Yeah, that sounds nice.
You know, I thought it was all Saddam.
I thought this was to get him.
Now it's their evil.
Now they... 70 to 90% of those stopped at checkpoints, Paul.
We're completely innocent families, and we already had it in the report, raping women.
Now the details are out of what's in those 2,000 photos and videos, raping people's wives in front of them, beating their children and sexually abusing them in front of them.
How in the world did our government find this much scum to do that?
What happened to us?
God, please forgive us for the scum we've become.
We are the most demonic trash on earth.
Well, all that you just mentioned, the raping of women, the torture of children, there's a World Net Daily article out today which calls it trivial.
They highlight this Saddam era video which shows them cutting the hands off prisoners, and obviously, yes, that's awful.
But then World Net Daily compared it to the Abu Ghraib and said, you know, it made that look trivial.
So raping women is now trivial.
Beating people to death is now trivial.
Torturing children in front of their parents is now trivial, according to the neocons.
Well, what the neocons do is they focus on somebody with underwear on their head and go, that's the worst of it, big deal, fraternity fun, blowing off some steam.
When the own government report confessions, they're saying, we were ordered to treat them like dogs, to have attacked dogs, attack them, to rape women.
I mean, you don't think the jail guards raped women out in the cell block under video without being ordered to do it.
I mean, any of you that believe that are just ignorant.
Well, we've also got an article up there which talks about how the Pentagon has now created a unit of non-lethal weapons in Iraq.
And the quote from the article is, "...officials said, one non-lethal tool under development is what they term an active denial microwave-like device.
The system can be directed at a distance to heat up the moisture in a person's skin, causing a sharp pain."
So if a hostile crowd is moving towards you, you use the active denial system.
They will stop coming.
You get hit with the high-powered microwave and you run away.
So, I mean, this is to eliminate protest.
And by the way, they then admitted last week that in Europe and the U.S., these systems are all being sold to police departments.
Most major cities quietly have a couple of Humvees with a huge microwave gun on the top just waiting for you folks.
Yeah, and that was New Scientist.
And I mean, in this article, World Tribune calmly admit that U.S.
troops have killed Iraqis in attempts to ensure that their protests would not develop into riots.
So they preemptively mow down crowds, and that's loving.
I want to take some calls, but a listener earlier said, you know, what do you do if the government comes to put microchips in you and your family?
Well, I mean, obviously, folks, we're not going to go along with that.
There's going to be tens of millions of people that aren't.
But the problem is you're actually going to have Christian conservative leaders saying it's Christian to take the chip, that Jesus has returned, that he's ruling us from Europe, and Jesus is going to say it's not really going to be Jesus.
And I'm not joking when I say this.
That the kingdom has come, the second coming, and he's here in flesh, which they're now teaching in churches, and that we must take the chips, and that this is going to be our new freedom.
And so we're going to have actually the Christians calling for us.
They're going to claim we're secret Muslim helpers, evil right-wingers, that we have to have our heads cut off.
I'm not joking.
That we have to have our heads cut off because we're secretly serving the Antichrist.
So it's going to be a flip-flop of that.
The churches are already teaching this, and...
You know, that forced abortion's good in China, and all of this, it's going to be a flip-flop, and, you know, Patriot Act's good, and we're already in Skull and Bones, big deal, that's Christian, you know, it's just fun.
I mean, this total denial...
What we're trying to do is say no to this, educate people, and then have tens of millions of people that say no to it and don't go along with it.
That boycott stores that put in thumb scanners.
That boycott SeaWorld that's put in hand scanners to get in.
To educate people against RFID and boycott the companies like Walmart putting this in.
Comments, Paul?
Well, exactly.
The main point to emphasize is that the people coming to your home to enforce microchips on you
Won't necessarily be the government themselves.
They will simply be the people that the government has hired.
Well, it'll be you can't buy food at the grocery store unless you have the national ID card, which they're already saying, and then you get half price if you have the chip.
And then they'll have terrorists blow stuff up who are, quote, against the chip, and when they blow up a football stadium full of people and go, the anti-chip right-wing...
Remember Andy Rooney in 60 Minutes?
He said, everybody needs a chip.
Remember that, Paul?
Yeah.
And so, again, they'll blow something up and then say those that are against the chip did it.
This is how it's going to work.
Exactly.
So, folks, we can't let it get to that point.
Obviously, I'll resist.
Obviously, I won't go along.
Obviously, I'm not going to take a chip.
I know that's radical and terroristic and, you know, Al-Qaeda will be on the news saying, we are in solidarity with those against the chip.
People will go, they're in solidarity?
Then if you're against the chip, you're for Al-Qaeda.
And then we'll say, no, no, no, Al-Qaeda, CIA, we're not with them.
Sure, that's what Saddam said.
He later confessed.
You know, see, everybody's with Al-Qaeda.
You're against global government?
You're with Al-Qaeda.
You're against chips?
You're with Al-Qaeda.
And then Al-Qaeda will always pop up in new videos uploaded from Republican websites saying, we're going to get you.
We're against the chips.
See how this works?
Paul comments.
Well, they've already prepared the groundwork for it.
Not just by, you know, CNN linking in right-wing extremists and neo-Nazis with Al-Qaeda, which they've been doing for years, but also recently with the BBC, who said that anyone who believes Bilderberg has power is akin to McVeigh and Bin Laden, who believe the same thing.
And I think I've actually seen articles in the past, so-called interviews with Bin Laden, you know, carried on CNN, where he points out that the Bush administration is controlled by this higher global force, so...
And that's exactly what Goldstein does in 1984.
Again, he says all the real stuff, but then does these bad things, so, oh, the truth must be bad.
You know, again, when Saddam's going, bin Laden works for the U.S., I'm not with him, I've always been against him, suddenly this, you know, this type of bin Laden, I'm with Saddam, don't listen to him.
I mean, why would he do that?
See, I mean, again, everything that actually helps the globalists, I mean, Al-Qaeda knows sawing heads off gets Bush ten approval point ratings.
So they keep sawing off more heads!
I mean, and Al Qaeda themselves.
I mean, the beheading, for example, of Johnson, and this new threat against this South Korean hostage, in a sense, they could be just useful idiot copycats that are copying the obvious PSYOP American intelligence Berg beheading, so you don't even need to necessarily control every single incident.
You just create a media spectacle on one that you control, in the case of Berg, and then you get these copycats that will do it and help your cause, which is
But then three weeks ago, we have the CIA ordering the Saudis to allow al-Qaeda to escape at the mass shooting, and then suddenly, oh, you know, suddenly the Saudis, the AP is saying, are protecting al-Qaeda.
Come on.
And then the Saudi prince is going, no, MI6 controls al-Qaeda, you're carrying out the terror attacks.
Well, the so-called Al-Qaeda group, you know, that's saying Saudis helped us, they were wearing Saudi police uniforms and had set up this fake checkpoint to ensnare Johnson.
So the question is, you know, does this Al-Qaeda group even exist, or was it just a direct CIA operation?
Well, the Saudis and the Iranians and the Iraqis have all said, why would we blow anything?
Saddam, I saw him on foreign television saying it, you know, on cable.
He was going, why would I do this?
Why would I want to... Have you come to attack me?
You think I'm stupid?
He was saying, I was set up.
Now, I've got the interview on tape somewhere.
He's going, I've been set up.
Why would I attack you?
You think I'm dumb?
Your government funded me.
Your government told me to invade Iran.
Your government told me to invade Kuwait.
I've been set up.
I worked for the CIA from 1954, which is admitted.
So, you know, this Zarqawi group was reported dead.
Is it even an al-Qaeda group, or is it a creation?
Remember the Boston Globe report?
The so-called al-Qaeda group that we were told carried out the Madrid train bombing, the Boston Globe did the investigation, concluded that it was, quote, a phantom organization.
It didn't exist.
And then it came out the government was really behind that.
Rob in Wyoming, then Kyle, Chris, Mike, and others.
Let's take a call.
Go ahead, Rob.
Hey, Alex and Paul, I wanted to talk about the word governance.
And possibly maybe get to the 9-11's other conclusion it came out with about the stand-down.
Also, Prison Planet TV is excellent, but even if it was just moving wallpaper, I would gladly fork over all the money I could.
You're the reason why the New World Order is four years behind.
All of us are.
I'm a small part of it.
You're a huge reason.
There are lots of other people.
Governance is not the same.
It's not synonymous with government.
It's referring to corporate governance, the internal bylaws of a corporation.
I got a call waiting, but they'll have to wait.
This is very important because when the clerk in the mailroom, the mail boy is trying to tell the CEO of the company what to do, he has no standing.
But when he asserts his standing as the owner of the company, the stockholder, telling the CEO, then it's a lot different.
Well, let's explain that.
The CFR says they're not for global government.
They're for global governance.
And it's a little wordplay, but governance is how you govern and is the mechanism itself of government, is what you're saying.
Well, America has been under governance for decades.
NAFTA, for example, is not a treaty.
Treaties can only be entered into by sovereigns.
It's a commercial agreement.
And...
The difference here is, for example, the Patriot Act, Section 224B, refers to any offense, not public offense, not statute at large.
You know, I forgot that.
It's even got civil matters in it.
Right, right.
Well, in the civil area, again, there are two types of torts.
There's moral duty, which doesn't depend on any kind of statute, and then there's legal duty, which is private statutes.
It can only be entered into or presumed to be entered into by tacit agreement, you see?
And so, therefore, a public offense versus an offense.
You know, you didn't wear your seatbelt or whatever else.
You didn't take your chip.
And this has all been done in America internally.
This corporate governance is spread by the supposedly freely associated states.
And it's administered by the Uniform Commercial Code.
So it's corporate bylaws.
That's what governance means.
A lot of reporters don't realize that.
No, no, that's a fabulous point, and you're right.
I've looked at it, sir.
Amazing, Rob.
Thanks for the call.
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Okay, we're going straight back to your calls, but Paul, I wanted to get your take on the White House having them use the Patriot Act on one of their, they're claiming one of their torture minions carrying out torture in Afghanistan that supposedly beat somebody to death, they allege.
I mean, that's obviously a great way to silence him under the Patriot Act where he can't defend himself.
It doesn't get through process.
And then also they can say, see, we're using it on our own people.
It's fair now.
And sets another precedent for citizens to have this used on them.
Paul?
Well, yeah, they take the case of somebody, you know, their own minion who deserves to be punished and say, look, this is a good example of how we can use the Patriot Act on American citizens and, you know, in a positive manner, which they were doing.
They used a similar case of...
The guy who they caught, the so-called Dirty Bomber, who they then detained in a military naval brig.
Yeah, Jose Padilla.
And so, again, he was an American citizen.
So it's an example of shifting that into the Patriot Act being used on American citizens, which is what they did in the case of this artist who had these biological agents which he used for his artwork, and then they went ahead and arrested him.
Well, yeah, it was a professor.
He'd done things on GMOs at conventions where he'd set up Petri dishes and stuff.
You know, it's like a science project to show folks how stuff happens.
And now they're grabbing him.
Let's go ahead and talk to Kyle in California.
Kyle, thanks for holding.
Thank you.
I just wanted to say thank you for your approach and your diligence in your work.
Hi, Alex.
Thank you.
I heard you on Coast to Coast and am completely...
I'm completely attracted to your style and your straightforward attitude and your ability to hear people out.
I had a couple quick questions.
Is there any evidence for Howard Dean's connections with the Skull and Bones Network in Yale?
Well, he went to Yale, but we haven't found any conclusive evidence.
That's all really one big system.
But they clearly in New Hampshire stole it from Dean, who was winning.
The Diebold machines all magically gave...
John Kerry, ten points more than the other machines and ballots in the state.
So Kerry was definitely the darling.
Paul?
Well, there was a London Telegraph report a few months ago which said that Dean was hostile to Skull and Bones and I believe they tried to tap him and he refused because he was hostile to the activities of the group itself.
So that might be a reason as to why he suddenly dropped out after being the frontrunner in the Democratic candidate race.
Well, I...
I find that intriguing, but I have a possible theory that maybe he took a dive to accept the vice president nomination, which it seems that Kerry hasn't named anybody yet, and I thought that was... I think it's going to be John Edwards.
He was at the Bilderberg Group meeting two weeks ago.
No kidding.
And one other thing, just a rumor I heard, and I thought you'd be the guy to ask about it.
Is there a 666 symbol hidden on the King James Bible somewhere?
And I'll take your answer off the air.
Thank you.
There's so many different versions of the King James, and is there some weird symbol on some Bible?
I'm sure there is.
But let's go ahead and get another call in here.
Good points, Kyle.
Chris in Tennessee, go ahead.
Hello, Alex and Paul.
I want to talk about the Poindexter incident with the White House betting on the war.
Yeah, we've forgotten about that.
They were going to bet on how many Americans got killed.
And that's exactly what I wanted to talk to George about Friday.
We have 840 dead.
We have tens of thousands put on military hold.
We have 14,000 people that are injured.
And our government wanted to profit on our dead soldiers.
I think that story does not... We need to post that and bring that to light.
Also, under the September 11th investigation, do you think Silverstein...
No, I mean, the commission appointed by Bush isn't going to bring up any real issues.
They'll come out and say that Bush was wrong about weapons of mass destruction, but it was an accident, or he was wrong about Saddam and bin Laden being buddies, and then two days later reverse themselves to create confusion.
First they get credibility, then they flush it two days later.
One extra story is a big story.
Tell you what, me and Paul will talk about that when the third hour starts.
It's a great question.
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Is it on your news that the official Iranian TV and radio is saying they took three British ships?
Yeah, it is.
And obviously it's a serious development.
Because according to the Iranians, the ships were chock full with maps and weapons.
And on the back of that is also a report today out of The Guardian, which is taken from a New Yorker article, that Israeli military and intelligence operatives are running covert destabilization campaigns, not only in Iraq, but also in Iran.
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Because then Halliburton gets to stay there for ten years, and they make more money.
Order out of chaos, folks.
Go ahead.
And remember last year when Bush publicly came out and supported these mass demonstrations against the Iranian government, which, you know, was supposedly this independent movement to overthrow the government, but actually we later found out that it was a total CIA coup operation, just like they'd been trying to pull in Venezuela.
So, in alliance with this report of British warships on the coast of Iran in Iranian waters then,
That's exactly what it is.
It's a destabilisation campaign to get Iran wary, to get the Israeli agents spying on this Iranian nuclear programme which they're developing.
So again, yeah, it's all out of chaos, which is why on the back of this bombing on Saturday in Fallujah, we often see that these so-called car bombs are actually missile strikes coming from eyewitnesses, which are both Iraqis, people in local government, and US and British troops.
So how many of these car bombings are actually what we saw on Saturday, an actual missile attack to destabilize the region, which is the goal?
Absolutely.
Keep the crisis going so they can offer their solution.
Tyranny.
Let's go ahead and Chris wanted to get into... Let's hold off on calls until the next segment.
We'll go to Mike and Fred and others.
The last caller, he's right.
There's so many big things we forget about.
Betting on dead troops, Paul.
And folks, forget about that.
Well yeah, is this what happened on 9-11 the day before where Reuters reported airline stock set to fly and actually there were massive put options put against them.
You know, speculation that the stock on American and United would go down and obviously after the attack that's exactly what happened.
And then as you mentioned this report last year whereby
There would be bets placed on dead American soldiers, where the next war would be, where the next terrorist attack would be.
And I think there was actually a Wired magazine article which came out months after that died down, after it was supposedly mothballed, which said that it had moved into the private sector under a different name, and was in fact still continuing, just like with Total Information Awareness.
So that is literally the running man betting on who's going to die next.
I mean, that is gladiatorial.
And the people who stand to make money out of it are the people who control, you know, where the next terrorist attack will be, the people behind the terrorist attack.
And then that's their cover is, oh yeah, you know, it's like a drill on 9-11 of flying hijacks, jets into buildings.
Oh, it's just a drill at 8.30 in the morning of the Pentagon and World Trade Center being hit.
That's why NORAD stood down.
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Let's talk to Mike in Hawaii.
Mike, go ahead.
You're on the air, sir.
Yeah, aloha, Alex.
It's Michael in Honolulu.
I just want to let you know that I changed my subscription from the monthly to the yearly over the weekend, and
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I spent most of the weekend watching three of your videos.
9-11, Road to Tyranny, Masters of Terror, and Police State 3, Total Enslavement.
It was just incredible.
I've got some questions for you, though, after watching the movies.
What happened after you confronted that U.S.
attorney in front of the television cameras that he was lying about the Patriot Act?
What happened after that episode?
Did they do anything to you?
No, he just scurried off and went and sat with the statesman reporters and laughed at me basically off camera.
He was like a mobster just giggling about it all.
Yes.
When you confronted George Bush back in 1998, you were standing in front of the podium and asking him why he had moved to get rid of the Federal Reserve.
And the CFR, and I mean, he's just standing there looking dumbfounded.
Well, he looked at his security people, and then they drug me out, and it was in the paper.
We didn't get it on video because I was drug out.
He goes, that's freedom, freedom of speech in America.
We have that freedom.
And they were twisting my arm behind my back.
It still hurts, you know, if I roll over in the night.
It's worse than some of my football injuries.
You know, that shocking electrical pain you get.
I still have an injury in my rotator disc or whatever it's called in my shoulder from that.
They were just cranking my arms up going, you like that?
You like that?
You're going to jail.
You're going under the jail.
And they drove me around for 45 minutes and then they got a call and the governor says release him and they threw me out on the side of the highway.
Can you believe?
That's incredible.
One last question.
No charges, no nothing.
I have been kidnapped by George Bush.
I mean, if you did that to anybody else, you'd get a kidnapping charge.
Yeah, yeah.
One last thing.
When you went in about the driver's license and the thumb scan, did you have any problems getting a driver's license later on?
Oh, yeah.
No, no.
They won't give you one unless you thumb scan.
And for five years, I didn't have one.
And then after 9-11, I tried to fly and I couldn't.
And so I went ahead and went and thumb scanned just so I could continue to fight it.
I can do more good than not.
And I've tried to get people in a movement to stop it and resist it.
Some states have.
Most others haven't.
And it got to the point where I couldn't fly to L.A.
to be on a national TV show to fight the New World Order, so I went ahead and did it under protest.
So here I am in Nazi Germany.
It's like I'm a Jew in Nazi Germany.
As a Jew in Nazi Germany, hypothetically, I would be against papers, but if I had to have papers to get out of the country, if I had to, or to travel, then I've got to do it.
So then it becomes an underground thing.
Excellent, excellent.
Well, that's it, and you have a great day, Alex.
You too, my friend.
Thank you for the support, Michael.
Any comments to what Michael had to say, Paul?
Well, just remember that they're now introducing the program whereby you will have to thumb scan to leave the country, and that's not just for...
You know, countries designated as not in the American Alliance or whatever, but it's for British citizens coming up in the next couple of years.
Yeah, six months ago it was to come in.
Oh yeah, that's good, but of course, a waiver for Latin Americans, Mexico, Guatemala, you name it, Bush gave them a special waiver, but as citizens, we have to do it now.
And then there was this report about this British journalist.
They've now changed the visa regulations on journalists without even telling them, basically.
So she was arrested by Homeland Security, again detained in a cell for 24 hours without food.
And another British man, a white guy, I say a white guy because imagine how bad it is if you have dark skin or an Arab.
It must be horrible.
But a few months ago he came in, and we have these literally every two days I see an article like this, but these are the ones I remember.
He came in, hadn't paid a $2,000 bill, his credit report showed, on a car.
Turned out he had paid it later, they found out.
And for 24 hours, they gave him no water.
And they shackled his feet, his ankles, and his hands, and used, you know, wooden restraints and things of that nature.
And no bathroom allowed.
He got to sit there and do you-know-what on himself in a corner.
While Homeland Security was sat there laughing at him eating burgers.
And that was on the AP and BBC.
And again, folks, look, we've had Green Party activists on, conservative activists on, where you try to fly now and you're in the cap system because, quote, you're politically active.
You can't fly.
They just laugh at you.
Usually, it's funny, some foreigner who can't even speak English in some commando outfit, you know, digs through your goods.
Well, yeah, that's the red level security.
So it's basically no-fly, and that's going to be extended into no-buy list, whereby if you don't take the ID card, the microchip, then it's no-buy, not just no-fly.
I saw an article in Arizona about three years ago.
It was you go in to get your driver's license.
If there's even parking tickets, they arrest you on the spot.
Or if you haven't paid bills now in some states, they'll not give you the license.
But now the newest thing is when you try to go buy a car or a house, you get put on this criminal list and can't do it.
I mean, folks, debtor's prison.
But going back to the George Bush kidnapping, I mean, you were lucky that you weren't tortured as well, because now we know that George Bush and his administration is above the law, and that's not some U.N.-Geneva convention.
It's American law, and, you know, they can legally torture, because they've got a parallel legal system.
Well, you know, it's funny the caller brought that up.
My shoulder is actually hurting today.
It doesn't usually...
I was tortured, Paul.
You try somebody cranking your arm behind your back, putting your fist on your head.
Oh, they were just blowing off steam, Alex.
Yeah, they did blow off some steam.
They got me, too.
Good job, Williamson County.
I'm in pain five, six years later.
Let's go ahead and talk to Fred in Philly.
Go ahead, Fred.
Alex.
What was this...
Yes, sir.
We did post it, I believe, didn't we, Paul?
Yeah, I believe it'll probably be in Thursday's or Friday's archives.
Yeah, you just click on the calendar.
I know I have it actually here in the stack when we try to find it, but let me explain that.
Have you noticed I called the new Patriot Act 2.5?
Well, no, I mean, really, because they passed about 60% of Patriot Act 2 in the intelligence spending package December 13th, the day he signed it in a secret ceremony, this is the AP, two hours before he announced the Saddam capture, so no one ever talked about it that I know of, just a few news
Is that anywhere in print?
Three and a half weeks trying to get that story down.
Is there anything in print?
Paul, I remember you posted actually in the News & Focus on the right-hand side, yeah, go into mid-December, like December 16th or so.
Okay.
Because, again, it's all in archives according to a calendar, and that will be one of the main stories.
All right.
I know we actually had it by the 14th.
We had it the day after.
Well, that's a relief to me because, you know, I've been talking to so many people, and they made me feel like I'm crazy in bringing it up.
Well, Ashcroft said there was no new anti-terror law, no Patriot Act II, in, let me see, January, March, in April testimony in 2003, two months after it was introduced.
Right.
Now, I would like to change the subject to something that's also part of this methods of control, etc., etc., which is the HIPAA Act.
Now, that, in a way, is analogous to that thing that Clinton had proposed, the Clipper chip,
It's analogous in that the way these legislations are written these days is that, sure, they'll pretend to give you privacy as long as the government has a back door to a method of communication.
The Clipper chip said, well, it'll encode conversations, but the government has to have the program for that.
And the HIPAA Act...
Put the shield of confidentiality on your doctor's records, but the government has a backdoor to that.
Well, when they passed that a few years ago, CNN said, a new law to give you more privacy.
And what it does is it allows the government to arrest your doctor if they don't get you to sign a waiver form and report it to HIPAA that they gave the pharmacy across the street your name and info.
And by the way, my dad is an oral surgeon and a dentist.
I mean, it...
All right, that's it.
Okay, thank you.
Paul, comments?
Well, yeah, and it's all going into that government building in Fairfax, Virginia, where the Total Information Awareness is operating out privately.
They just changed the name, and, you know, it gets massive funding from these government-affiliated corporations.
And USA Today reported, what, about two months ago, that every time you order a pizza from a major chain, it runs through NSA to see if you have any warrants for even misdemeanors, and then instead of a pizza coming to the door, you get a SWAT team.
Yeah, I mean, the ISPs have all been ordered by the government to turn over information at will.
Even these software programs that carry email capability like Xbox, they've been ordered to turn over any information.
So it's all going into this centralized database in Fairfax, Virginia.
Yeah, they know how many ghouls you can kill when you're playing... When you're playing... Oh, what's the game where the bio-release has happened...
And you're down underground.
Oh, I forget.
I mean, the point is, whatever game you're playing, they even get the info on that.
If you're hooked into the Internet.
I mean, come on, folks.
This isn't freedom.
Resident Evil was the name, yes.
Let's try to jam another in here.
It's coming to me now.
We've got time.
Let's go ahead and talk to Doug.
Doug, you're on the air from Missouri.
Go ahead.
Doug hung up.
Don in Pennsylvania, go ahead.
Hi, Alex.
As always, it's always a pleasure to talk to you, just to know that sanity does exist out there in the world.
I was just calling to see if you ever received two things I sent to you, one about a one-legged guy having to walk a straight line, and the other one about the car there, and if you did, if you understood it, and
If so, was you ever going to post it on your website?
Yes, sir.
I did read it, and I do mean to give that to my webmaster to try to find it.
Well, what's wrong with making a one-legged guy on a sobriety test walk a straight line?
Well, you read the article.
I didn't make it up.
I just figured Newcastle, Pennsylvania is your type of town.
Tell you what, stay there, and we'll talk about it.
It was Newcastle three years ago where the guy yelled back at the police dog.
And got some prison time for it because that was assaulting the dog.
Stay there, Don.
We'll talk about Newcastle.
We'll be right back.
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Yeah, I get a lot of weird stories over the years out of Newcastle, Pennsylvania, but it's actually a trend I've seen in California, Oregon, New York, Texas.
That was a case up in Michigan a few years ago.
Where a police dog was chasing somebody at night through the streets and ran up and started biting just an innocent bystander walking into their house at 1 a.m.
in their front yard.
And the guy kicked the police dog off of him.
And he got 40 years in state prison, which I guess that means he'll serve about seven or eight, for assaulting an officer.
But in California and Texas and Pennsylvania and all over, I mean, I see these articles every few months,
We're good to go.
We're good to go.
We're good to go.
I guess that's what the caller is mentioning.
And the police dog, roar, scared him.
And so he went, ah, shut up.
Didn't even cuss at the dog.
Just said, shut up.
And a cop saw that, ran out, had the tape, got him convicted, and I think he ended up spending like six months in jail or something.
I don't have the article in front of me, and it was years ago.
Because it said that was assaulting an officer to yell at the dog.
And so their dogs are better than us.
You don't talk back to their dogs.
In fact, you can't get now at a lot of military funerals, you can't even get the military to come out and be part of the funeral.
They're so busy and the funding's been cut.
But a few years ago they had a police dog in Houston killed.
I mean, it was something like 10,000 sheriffs and police went there for the burial in Houston.
All taxpayers paid for it.
But is that what you were getting at, Don?
I just figured you always like those articles from this side of the country.
And I just wanted to know if you understood what I was saying about the car and if you was going to boast it or if you just... You know, I don't particularly remember that article.
I remember the article you said about the one-legged guy having to do a sobriety test.
Yeah, that was just what I sent for you.
I figured you would enjoy it.
But my question would be, what is the odds of me actually following a charge against the dog in the car barking at me?
As far as I know, that's a battery, is it not?
I mean, I don't talk dog, but then again, you know, he's barking at me, so how do I know?
I mean, wouldn't that be against the officer?
I mean, we got video of cops beating women and children at protests now.
That's just what they do.
It's part of the new freedom.
And if they do lose a lawsuit, they just use your tax money to pay it.
Thanks for the call.
Paul Watson, what do you think about what he was just saying?
Well, I can believe that the one-legged man sobriety test, because, I mean, they're trying to create more and more reasons for having these checkpoints to carry out that kind of thing.
I mean...
You mentioned California in Sacramento.
They're trying to pass a bill which would ban smoking in your own car if you have children in the back seat.
So it's just, you know, another reason for a checkpoint.
And the thing with the dogs is that their dogs are laws.
You have to treat them like people.
But then on the other flip side of the equation, you get a case like the Smoke family who were pulled over in Nashville because they were suspected to be involved in a robbery.
And the dog walks over wagging its tail and they blow the daylights out of it.
Yeah, so, I mean, their dogs are lords, but they'll go around killing other people's dogs all day.
Well, they have a policy, those SWAT teams, that have guys called dog-killing detail, and they just kill your dog.
There have been cases of five-pound chihuahuas being blasted.
Because they say that it causes a disturbance, it could be a threat.
Well, it's like the article I read out of the Arizona Republic where they go, well, we have tasered here in the town a few children under one year, actually said under one year, because they were a threat to the officers.
Remember that article two weeks ago?
Yeah, and there's also that case where
There was a depressed woman who was threatening to kill herself.
The neighbor called the police.
The police came around and killed the depressed woman's dog just to make her feel better.
There's cases everywhere.
Folks, by the way, we're not joking.
We're not exaggerating.
This stuff's really going on.
I shouldn't laugh.
Oh, Paul, what are we going to do?
Oh, this is incredible.
You know what?
I'm not going to hate any more calls.
I want to spend time with Paul on news.
A lot of great calls today.
We're going to break, and then there's a big stack here I want to go through, Paul, and get your take on it.
But any other items you want to bring up when we get back?
I think we need to talk about 9-11, the whitewash commission, where they came out and said that
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Well, yeah, even though I read it, you know, six hours a day, I still have trouble believing it.
I mean, it's just, it's already so over the top.
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And let's get into the 9-11 Whitewash Commission first.
You wanted to speak to that.
Well, they came out a few days ago and said that the reason the planes weren't intercepted is that the order to shoot down the aircraft wasn't passed along to military fighter pilots in time.
Straight off the bat, we know that's false, because as Colonel Don Grand Prix said, you know, he knows the pilot who shot down Flight 93 over Pennsylvania.
On the day of 9-11, there were reports that 10 pilots
Airlines had been hijacked, so what happened to those?
Did they call off other attacks that were set to take place that day?
We know there were other targets from people who'd come out with prior... Because elements of the military started refusing and were going to shoot down the aircraft.
Yeah, because the whole attack got delayed because Flight 93 was delayed on the runway, so they had to call some of them off.
They were planning to attack the Sears Tower, the Capitol White House, among other targets.
So now the Whitewash Commission has come out and said that the order was not passed on in time, that it was Dick Cheney that was responsible for giving the order, which is wrong, because two months ago we had the amendment to that, which came out in June of 2001, which passed over responsibility for giving the intercept order over to Rumsfeld.
We're good to go.
I think?
Deputy Director for Operations of the National Military Command Centre.
Three minutes after Flight 11 gets hijacked, the first thing he does, and this is the guy responsible for getting the order from higher authorities to go ahead and shoot down the aircraft.
Three minutes after Flight 11 is hijacked, he passes his authority over to a rookie who had basically only just completed his training, his first day on the job.
Three minutes after the plane's hijacked, so that delay in itself was probably intentional just to make sure that that first plane hit.
But again, they're saying that they thought Flight 11 was still out there when it had already crashed into the building, but they ignored purposefully the report which we highlighted that there were
Fighters, F-16 fighters in New York, well, Atlantic City, you know, running these war game scenarios, which were basically the cover for 9-11, eight minutes away from the hijacked planes.
And that's never included, never mentioned in the commission's report.
And they say that the book stopped with Cheney when it didn't.
It stopped with Rumsfeld because the order had been changed three months before.
Yeah, three months before.
I was going to say two months before.
And this is admitted.
He takes specific control over the whole program to his own micromanagement.
That had never been done before.
I know.
The directive stated in the event of a hijacking, the NMCC will be notified by the most expeditious means by the FAA.
The NMCC will, with the exception of immediate responses as authorised by reference, forward requests for DOD assistance to the Secretary of Defence for approval.
And obviously that's Rumsfeld.
And again, you know, 35 USAF bases within range on 9-11.
Yeah, since NORAD was set up in 1956, they've had the shoot-down order.
If your Cessna goes off course for five minutes, they launch F-16s.
If you're unresponsive, if transponders go off, they launch F-16s immediately, especially with large passenger jets.
But in this case, for hours the transponders are off, an hour and 24 minutes from the first plane hitting, two-plus hours from the Pennsylvania situation, and nothing happens, a continual stand-down, ladies and gentlemen.
And then the guy running all this, General Myers, gets promoted to Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
Well, yeah, 167 times, occasions, both before and after 9-11.
These planes go off course, they're intercepted within, you know, in the case of Payne Stewart, 21 minutes.
We're good to go.
I think?
By a miraculous coincidence, and they say that they don't have a squadron-ready set of aircraft to defend the sky.
There were eight different bases within 75 miles with fighter intercept aircraft loaded on the tarmac with missiles.
Yeah, I mean, so they're basically saying that it was an accident because the order was not passed in time to be passed on to the fighter pilots to get the shoot down.
You know, Flight 77 crosses across the Midwest, comes back again.
We're talking, you know, 70 minutes and nothing is done.
Transponder off, on radar.
Then the Feds grab the five FAA transmission tapes of the orders they were getting from NORAD.
They said they accidentally shredded all those, Paul.
Yeah, and these were the conversations between the FAA personnel, and the reason for the shredding of the evidence was that these people were under emotional strain, and so this means that the evidence contained on those tapes might be inaccurate, so they just went ahead and shredded them.
Well, that's completely normal, Paul.
I mean...
And again, people like Keane are in business with these funders of Bin Laden, just like Bush was.
So there's no agenda to investigate the true purpose of the First Commission.
With Bob Graham and Porter Goss, they were meeting with the so-called chief funder of Mohammed Atta on the morning of 9-11.
And that's admitted.
Which is why we call it the Whitewash Commission.
And...
You had Christopher Broder on your show a couple of months ago, you know, the guy who stood up in the middle of Giuliani's testimony, said the government trained and funded al-Qaeda, there were other members...
We're good to go.
Yeah, the commission never asked why the CIA did insider trading, why public officials were warned not to fly, why there were tens of thousands of U.S.
and British troops massing for the invasion of Afghanistan, why our government flew 8,000 of them out.
It was basically an advertisement for the Patriot Act and the police state.
Well, yeah, their solution is a domestic intelligence agency to spy on Americans.
And then on Thursday they come out and go, oops, Bush messed up, it was an accident, Al-Qaeda wasn't with Saddam, to get our confidence, and then to spin it and say it wasn't a deliberate lie, and then by Sunday it's, oh, we were wrong, he does work for Al-Qaeda.
Well, yeah, the neocons are still clinging on to this proven fraudulent so-called meeting with Atta in the Czech Republic with this so-called Iraqi military commander.
And the people that are passing on this...
Intelligence, in inverted commas, are people like Alawi, the CIA-sponsored child murderer who's the new Prime Minister, who passed on the 45-minute claim to Tony Blair, the claim that Iraq could launch weapons of mass destruction on London within 45 minutes.
He had to later admit that it was, in his own words, a crock of fill-in-the-blank.
And then people like Shalabi, who were supplying the New York Times, the so-called liberal alternative newspaper, with the same information.
But that's okay, because we've got Putin saying Bush can be trusted, and he gave him the weapons of mass destruction, and McCain came to his rescue.
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Well, yeah.
The neocons even seized on the Putin warning that he had, you know, warned Washington that Iraq wanted to attack the United States.
And this is a man who's, you know, a bigger dictator than anyone on the earth, basically, in his own country in Russia.
Caught carrying out his own terrorist bombings with his own FSB in Ryazan with the false hexagem, which, you know, it was a sting operation.
The police luckily caught them carrying out other apartment buildings in Russia.
So, I mean, these are the people that we're supposed to trust, people like Putin, the arch dictator.
Well, Putin's a good KGB man.
Drudge reporting, Ronald Prescott Reagan has choice words for President Bush, not words of approval.
He told Chris Matthews that administration officials have no business invoking the Reagan name to justify war in Iraq.
Reagan, my father, never felt the need to wrap himself around anybody else's mantle or pretend to be anybody else.
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I don't know what's wrong with these people.
They have to keep invoking him.
It is their administration, their war.
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Well, yeah, that's what the whole Reagan funeral thing was about.
It was about pro-government worship and linking...
In essence, you know, Reagan, who had good rhetoric but was controlled and his government was basically hijacked by the Bush cabal, using that
Here's another one.
Abu Ghraib must not be torn down, rules judge CBC.
And it says, as pre-trial proceedings on Monday of three of the seven U.S.
soldiers, which they're going to use the Patriot Act on so they can't speak out, of Abu Ghraib prison, abuse scandal, a military judge declared the facility a crime scene and ordered that it not be destroyed.
Of course, the Bushes want to destroy it, just like the World Trade Center, Oklahoma, at Waco.
Government always destroys the crime scene, Paul.
Well, they want to destroy it because...
You know, I'm 95% sure that Abu Ghraib, the scene of the torture, was the same scene of the Berg execution.
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He worked at the prison.
More so than the torture.
I think that's the reason why they wanted to destroy it, because, you know, it's where the Berg-Sayop execution took place, so they don't want anyone digging into that.
And, Paul, I've talked about on the torture situation how, for years, they bragged about how good torture was on the nightly news.
Then they said, oh, we were never behind it.
Now we have the memos where they ordered it, connected to Rice and Rumsfeld, but do you think there might be somebody getting in trouble over this?
Well, I think...
Obviously, they want to burn some lower-level members.
The word I got was that some of the scapegoats, basically, that were told to do it, obviously they were wrong to do it, but they were thinking about going to the very top and trying to burn the people who were really behind this.
So whether that happens remains to be seen.
Well, they're not going to be able to because they're going to get charged under Patriot Act.
That's now starting to happen.
They've charged one of these people with Patriot Act so they can't defend themselves or talk.
Well, exactly.
That's why they need to clamp down on this, because these people, from what I can see, want to burn the people who are actually in charge of it.
And, of course, the neocons are out hailing the use of the Patriot Act against these people.
I mean, now their own torture boys are having a use on them.
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All right, my friends.
Some final key news items here.
Report.
Ken Lay to be indicted.
Prosecutors said be seeking fraud charges against ex-Enron chairman within two weeks.
We have the whole White House, I mean almost all of them, intimately involved in all this.
And I predict this is just for election stunts, that they'll either won't get the indictment or will bring it in and then kind of blow the case and create a big whitewash.
After all, they got the real crime boss, didn't they?
Martha Stewart, who did nothing compared to the real crooks.
And U.S.
prosecutors are expected to ask a federal grand jury to indict former Enron Corporation chairman Ken Lay within two weeks of charges related to the company's 2001 collapse, a newspaper reported Saturday.
Paul?
Well, I didn't see this, but wasn't there a video that came out which showed the Enron executives cackling and laughing over this that came out a couple of weeks ago?
Yeah, a video and a bunch of tapes of them, how to run the scams and the different things they were doing.
We have the people on tape bragging about it, and nothing's being done.
Well, nothing's being done about, you know, Buzzy Crongard and his links to these stock speculations pre-September 11th.
It's the same deal.
I'd like to know who was behind that.
Well, at least we're bringing freedom to Iraq.
I mean, it's been martial law since the liberation.
It was martial law under the globalist Minyan Saddam.
Iraq government may impose martial law.
Just use the term openly.
This is ABC News.
The Iraq government may impose martial law on parts of the country.
The fight insurgents in it takes power from the U.S.
People we appoint take power and increase the troop levels, and they call this a handover, Paul.
Well, it's already martial law.
I mean...
Mass gun confiscation, mass arrests of people, you know, up to 90% of which are taxi drivers who don't show their papers at checkpoints, people who sell alcohol, or children who steal biscuits, as the London Times reported.
And again, your new Prime Minister of the Liberated Iraq is this former terrorist leader who murdered dozens of children, you know, meet the new boss same as the old boss.
Won't get fooled again!
Yeah.
And UK troops accused of mutilating Iraqi bodies, London Guardian, and it says the death certificates by doctors show this.
We put this out, what, two months ago on Prison Planet, but now we have MSNBC detailing a rape of innocent people.
Now, again, I mean, expand the details, Paul.
How do the sickos out there that have promoted torture live with themselves?
Well, they do it by ignoring the real reports and they just say it was hazing and, you know, humiliation and then when you say, but women were raped, people were beaten to death, they just say, no, that didn't happen, I never heard of that when it's in the official military report.
I mean, there were dozens of bodies coming out of Abu Ghraib before the torture thing broke where the Iraqi doctors analysed the bodies and they showed, you know,
Definite signs of being beaten to death, and that was also in the report.
Meanwhile, the CIA puts out all these fake photos, and we say preemptively they're fake, two-letter discredit everything, then, oh, it must be fake.
Well, yeah, that's what they did with the British torture photos, which were later proven to be fake.
The editor of the Mirror newspaper had to resign.
But then it came out days later that torture had taken place within that same regiment.
So the story was true, but the photos were false.
But suddenly military intelligence shows up, the Mirror believes it posted.
Why would the military give them these photos themselves?
To discredit something they knew that was coming out.
Exactly, which is why you saw those porn photos, which were then picked up by the Boston Globe after everybody knew that they were fake, and the Boston Globe then came out with its apology.
And if this isn't torture, what is?
O'Reilly, Iraqis are primitive and should be bombed again.
O'Reilly, because look, when 2% of the population feels that you're doing them a favor, just forget it, you're not going to win.
And then he goes on to say, and this teaches them a lesson.
That they cannot intervene in the Muslim world ever again.
What we can do is bomb the living daylights out of them, just like we did the Balkans.
Just as we did the Balkans, bomb the living daylights out of them, but no more ground troops, no more hearts and minds.
It ain't gonna work.
So just 98% of them deserve to die, Paul.
Back tonight, back tomorrow.
Thanks, Paul.
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