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	Big Brother.
	Mainstream media.
	Government cover-ups.
	You want answers?
	Well, so does he.
	He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
	And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
	Hello, ladies and gentlemen.
	I'm going to see The Passion today, and tomorrow I will have a review for you.
	I've already had a review from several people that have seen it, including Mel Gibson's father here on the show, but I'll actually get a chance to see it, and I'm really looking forward to it.
	I hope you all go out and watch it as well.
	Huge show lined up for you today.
	Coming up in about 30 minutes, Kevin Smith, who has done some stories for the website and done some camera work for us, he went out to the fourth New World Order.
	It's actually called New World Order Symposium on Terrorism.
	And I've been to two of those.
	He's been to all four.
	We're good to go.
	They're not hiding her name, just her face, because she uses fake names when she's out in the field.
	This is a very interesting information that's coming up in about 30 minutes.
	And Calvin came up to her and went over the mainstream evidence that's in her rots in the Jerusalem Post that Israel founded with its money, Hamas, and controls Hamas, and is actually involved in some of the bombings.
	And she goes, yes, this is true.
	So that was interesting.
	They had General Magus and others there.
	By the way, two weeks ago at the last symposium, they wouldn't let us film either, but would let some people film.
	This time, no one could film.
	So we're going to spend about 15, 20 minutes on that.
	Then we've got Colonel Don DeGram coming on the show.
	He had a stroke over a year ago and hasn't done an interview since.
	I talked to the guy sharp as ever.
	He's coming on the show.
	He's the individual who put on the symposium in Portugal two years ago that made major headlines in that country.
	September 11th, U.S.
	government accused a group of military and civilian U.S.
	pilots under the chairmanship of Colonel Don DeGran after deliberating nonstop for 72 hours has concluded...
	That the flight crews of the four passenger airliners involved in September 11th tragedy had no control over the aircraft, and they come down to the fact that only the globalists, only the U.S.
	government could carry this out.
	Of course, Andres Van Buelow, the German technology minister, and before that, defense minister, said that publicly on this show at the best-selling book in Germany, laying out the facts of that.
	Michael Meacher, the number three guy in Blair's government, arguably number four.
	I don't want to get into a sub-debate about that, but a high-level member of Blair's government resigned last year and wrote an eight-page editorial for the London Guardian saying if the government didn't do it, they certainly had prior knowledge and funded the terrorists.
	And he gave quotes out of the PNAC documents.
	So Colonel Don DeGrand will be joining us.
	He's also an author.
	You're not going to want to miss this interview in the second hour.
	I really appreciate Don coming on the show.
	Highly decorated Korean War veteran, shot twice in Korea, in OSS even before that, right out of high school during World War II, right after World War II, and a long military career after that, and an expert on the New World Order.
	I've read a lot of his writings.
	I've never interviewed him.
	So that interview should be quite interesting in the second hour.
	Kevin Smith is joining us in about 25 minutes to talk about the Israeli-slash-Hamas agent.
	So that's coming up.
	Also, a lot of new news on Skull & Bow, the situation in Haiti, reports, slavery alive and well in the U.S., CPS killing children.
	It's all coming up.
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	Big Brother.
	Mainstream media.
	Government cover-ups.
	You want answers?
	Well, so does he.
	He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
	And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
	Monday through Friday...
	Monday through Friday from 11 a.m.
	until 2 p.m.
	Central Standard Time, I do this show.
	And, of course, back from 9 to midnight Central Standard Time, the website's updated daily for you, many times even on the weekend, infowars.com and prisonplanet.com.
	I think the names of those websites say it all.
	We're fighting the prison planet transformation of Earth.
	We are fighting it with the information war with the truth.
	Again, Colonel Don DeGrand, expert on 9-11, on the New World Order, put on the symposium in Portugal with top military officers and pilots, laying out how the globalists carried out September 11th.
	This will be his first interview since he had a stroke a little over a year ago, and I talked to him this morning, a very well-spoken, intelligent fellow, written some very interesting books.
	He'll be joining us, and again, we're going to get into a little symposium, the fourth part of it, called Terrorism, the New World Order, that they've had at UT at the Presidential Library.
	We had one of our camera guys down there for the local TV shows, Kevin Smith, and he asked some serious questions.
	And there was a, quote, Mossad Hamas double agent.
	I already mentioned this, but it's coming up.
	And that's how she was billed.
	And then he brought up to her, well, the major Israeli newspapers admit that Israel founded Hamas and carries out a lot of the bombings.
	And is that true?
	And she said, yes, it's true.
	So just calmly being announced, you know, out in the open.
	And by the way, it's like yesterday, and we posted it two days ago, I read the Newsday article out of New York City where Bush's Economic Commission said that they want to consider all fast food restaurants, restaurants period is what they said, as manufacturing.
	Consider it a factory job.
	And consider it according to our output of machine goods, I guess.
	And then they could say that we've actually gained 4 million factory jobs instead of losing 2-plus million since 2001.
	And that's what the article said.
	It's what Bush's cabinet-level office said.
	And I got emails saying, I'm a liar, they didn't say cheeseburgers are industry jobs.
	Okay, it's posted on the website, I know it's unbelievable, but it's really true.
	It's like Bush two weeks ago had the same commission say that our main export is now jobs, and that we should be very proud of this, and losing jobs is good.
	He actually said that, and Alan Greenspan over the weekend testified that it's good to export our jobs.
	And, you know, I mean, it's happening.
	I know this sounds insane.
	I can't believe it.
	But they're doing it.
	And I have Haratz.
	I have Jerusalem Post.
	I have Yishak Rabin.
	I have United Press International.
	It's in Paul Watson's book, Order Out of Chaos.
	It's in my video, Masters of Terror, and in Police State, Three Total Enslavement.
	There's a whole section on prisonplanet.com.
	And the government-sponsored terrorist section, most of them are Jewish newspapers, calmly admitting that the Israelis in the early 70s founded Hamas, set them up, funded them.
	The Hamas terrorists were always seen going into the military bases, coming back out.
	They get protected.
	And this is a Jewish newspaper, so if you've got a problem with it, just go have a problem with them.
	Americans are just so naive about this.
	You go, why would Israel want to keep the terrorism going?
	Well, because then they get to get military funding, military control, the military-industrial complex gets to have control over the Jewish population as well as the Palestinian population, and the war just gets to continue to roll forward.
	And the other Arab countries don't want it to end either.
	It's a way to unify their nations and have some phony nationalism and blame Israel for everything.
	Governments want to have enemies.
	It's real simple.
	And then there are real terrorist attacks launched by Palestinians.
	There are real suicide bombers.
	But every time there's about to be a peace breakthrough or some process, that takes place.
	A bomb goes off.
	And in many cases, it is Palestinians publicly funded and controlled by Shembet or Mossad.
	Okay.
	By the way, Kevin was there openly talking to Mossad agents who were admitting this, and it was just basically a big joke there at the UT Presidential Library during this big symposium.
	Oh, but you know, we have to do this, they say.
	This is how we maintain control.
	It's like our government.
	You know, they blow stuff up.
	The British do it.
	Hitler did it.
	The Chinese do it.
	Putin's been doing it again right before his re-election.
	He just fired most of the government, and they're having a staged election.
	But, you know, that's how you get control.
	You blow something up.
	So that's coming up, too, here on the show.
	Now, here's some of the news I've got.
	Skeleton key to the White House.
	London Guardian details the satanic leadership of the government.
	They actually get into that.
	We'll cover that.
	This is out of Newsday.
	A report, slavery alive and well in the U.S.
	Yeah, they're kidnapping women and children, you name it.
	Another big article here out of BBC.
	Probed child organ traffickers.
	When they kidnap the children, they take their organs.
	And the major governments are involved in this, of course.
	Mainstream BBC.
	Let's just turn our guns into this government.
	They'll be much nicer to us.
	Let me see.
	Newsday reports slavery alive and well in the U.S.
	BBC probes child organ traffickers.
	Shows bags of babies' organs.
	No big deal.
	Oh, and here's another one.
	This is out of Tallahassee.
	Naples News, a human trafficking study looks towards remedies.
	A mother wants to know why a child died in foster care.
	CPS workers decided a woman's child wasn't gaining weight fast enough, and they had no evidence of abuse, so they took the child, and the child later, a few months later, died.
	They're five times more likely to kill your children.
	That's why they're the enforcers and they're running things, because they're the most criminal, the most likely to abuse children, so they're who we put over children.
	They have the highest statistic of the pedophiles and predators in the CPS line of work, in the line of work as truancy officers.
	This is about, by the way, you'd learn this at college if you took criminology.
	This is an admitted fact, so I just thought we'd mention that to you.
	Because, you know, smart criminals know where to go to be predators.
	It's the stupid predators that get caught.
	The smart ones learn how to get badges and guns.
	I'm not saying all of them are like this.
	I'm saying statistically you find more of them there than anywhere else because they get protection.
	That's my point of unchecked power.
	I think the Founding Fathers told us about it.
	Also, they're murdering and mutilating whites in Africa, BBC.
	Earth almost put on impact alert.
	And BBC, also CNN, scientists want to be ready to block asteroids from hitting Earth.
	The mathematics show it on a collision course for Earth, but they say this every year or two, and that just means that according to their calculations, the plus or minus error is just a few hundred thousand miles, so it could hit the Earth.
	Because according to calculations, it could be a few hundred thousand miles, a few thousand miles, a few hundred thousand miles.
	They don't know.
	But it is true, giant asteroids do hit the Earth.
	I mean, I've stood in the craters in Mexico and Arizona in my travels, you know, that are 20 times bigger than, you know, 10 times bigger than football fields, and those are small ones.
	A rock that size would, you know, kill half the people in your state if it hit.
	In fact, let's just cover that now.
	You can't bring something up like that and then not get into it, and then we'll get into the...
	Well, how they grab your children and cut their guts out.
	You know, that's the government.
	Mainstream news, of course.
	Earth almost put on impact alert.
	Astronomers have revealed how they came within minutes of alerting the world to a potential asteroid strike last month.
	Some scientists believed on the 13th of January that a 30-meter object, that's big, later designated 2004 AS-1,
	At a 1 in 4 chance of hitting the planet within 36 hours.
	1 in 4.
	Now they say there's a new one that could do that.
	It could have caused local devastation and said researchers contemplated a call to President Bush before new data finally showed there was no danger.
	The procedures for raising the alarm in such circumstances are now being revised.
	At the time, the President's team would have been putting the final touches on a speech he was due to make the following day at the headquarters of NASA, the U.S.
	Space Agency.
	In it, he planned to reset the course of manned spaceflight, sending it back to the moon on the Mars, but he could have had something very different to say.
	He could have begun by warning the world it was about to be hit by a space rock.
	Now, let me just say this.
	Because of the meetings I've seen, I've interviewed Mrs. Shoemaker and others who are world experts on this here on the show.
	Due to the fear-mongering I've seen in the last 10 years, the meetings with the Russians and the U.N.
	involvement, I'm saying an asteroid hitting the Earth is a real danger.
	Obviously, it happens quite often.
	Happened, you know, was it 1918 up in Siberia, and it was like a nuclear bomb going off.
	Obviously this stuff happens, and it could be a big problem.
	And it probably will happen in our great-great-great-great-grandchildren's lifetimes.
	I mean, sometime in the next few hundred years, probably a big asteroid will hit and kill a few thousand people if it's rural, millions if it hits a big city.
	I mean, yes, we get hit by this stuff.
	Usually it hits rural areas, but the planet's been less populated.
	But this is part of a larger fear-mongering global government move
	You know, proposing international space stations, and the government could easily put something artificial in space, hit a city, claim it was an asteroid, use that crisis as a major restructuring tool for police state.
	Because they've had all these movies, Steven Spielberg is a Bilderberg Group member,
	And he goes to the Bilderberg group, and they ask him to make these asteroid movies, and this is definitely part of their fear-mongering scenario.
	I don't know if they're going to do it.
	I don't know exactly how it feeds in, but it's got New World Order all over it.
	Just more on the asteroid, and then just more on what they do with your kids after they kidnap them.
	We'll be right back.
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	Earth almost put on impact alert.
	Imagine the unifying effect of a president or a world leader standing up and saying, we're going to be hit by this asteroid.
	We think it's going to plunge into Europe or the United States or Latin America or Africa.
	The circus that that would cause.
	And think of what a great diversion or political unifying effect it would be to detonate a nuclear weapon and then claim that it was an asteroid.
	Scientists want to be ready to block asteroid from hitting the Earth.
	The asteroid, believed to have wiped out dinosaurs 65 million years ago, was rare but hardly unique, say scientists gathered to discuss ways of aggressively defending our planet from another such space rock, including by detonating nukes in space.
	It's like the old James Bond movies, where they shoot the nukes out to stop the
	Stop the asteroids coming in.
	And they claim there's more of these asteroids coming that are very close.
	Now we just have the radio telescopes and the telescopes and the different systems that are able to see these.
	We've always been hurtling through space.
	I mean, in between Mars and Jupiter, there's the gigantic asteroid belt, which they believe is the wreckage of a large planet.
	So, who knows?
	I mean, yeah, next week we could be hit by a, you know, 10-mile-across asteroid that would cause a new ice age.
	Or it could be, you know, 5 million years from now.
	You just don't know.
	But people that, you know, get on the radio and say it's about to happen, you know, buy my book.
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	It's pretty interesting to...
	To say the least, to hear people out there saying that and doing that.
	Speaking of bizarre, this is out of the London Guardian, and, you know, major paper of a major country just calmly announcing the satanic activities of the two presidential candidates.
	Skeleton key to White House, both John Kerry and George Bush were members of Yale's secretive skull and bone society.
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	The hangman equals death, the devil equals death, death equals death.
	It's weird to think that the two men who are now contesting the most powerful job in the world...
	Both apparently went through an occult ritual that involved dressing up and chanting the words above, prostrate in front of a fellow student wielding a butcher's knife and dressed in animal skin.
	Well, the video that was caught of the outside ritual is actually them in black hoods with someone dressed up like Satan, and then he offers them to come into hell and join him, and that's the rest of it, of course.
	John Kerry and George Bush Jr.
	and Sr.
	were members of the Secretive Skull and Bones Society at Yale University.
	The final words of the initiation ceremony, according to the intrepid New York Observer journalist Rob Rosenbaum, who has secretly recorded the secretive incantations, center around the command, run neophyte.
	And then it's the next three pages get into the bizarre activities...
	Of skull and bones and how angry Bush gets if you bring it up to him and what the White House has to say about it.
	It is an admitted order of death founded by the Illuminati.
	That's MSNBC.
	Both are major presidential candidates, members of the U.S.
	branch of the Illuminati.
	And if you talk about it, the so-called Christian conservatives will rebuke you and say you're a lying devil.
	When confronted with it, they say, oh, they're just having fun.
	This is not a fraternity, folks, where you get drunk and roll around and act like idiots and say some Latin chants or Greek chants.
	That comes as outer trappings.
	That is low-level minion cults trying to imitate the real thing.
	Skull and bones is the real thing.
	Then they work their evil in the real world.
	When we get back, we'll get into a quick report from the New World Order Symposium.
	That's what it was called, New World Order, Understanding Terrorism.
	The fourth part of it, where they had a Mossad slash Hamas double agent who admitted some interesting things to our reporter, Kevin Smith, then report slavery alive and well in the U.S.
	That's Newsday.
	And BBC says probes child organ trafficking.
	The government says it is keen to track down and crack down on child traffickers who are believed to take children abroad and sell their organs for profit.
	And here's one out of the Naples News out of Florida.
	Human trafficking study looks towards remedies.
	And a lot of these kids are missing from child GPS in Florida.
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	I published a book that's 320 plus pages long.
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	Order Out of Chaos, Elite Sponsored Terror in the New World Ordered.
	And one of the chapters, there's a chapter about British intelligence blowing stuff up to blame it on their enemies, Putin blowing stuff up to blame it on his enemies, U.S.
	government carrying out 9-11, three chapters on that, the history of it, and there's also a chapter on Israel.
	And really, the chapter consists of UPI, Haratz, and Jerusalem Post admitting that basically Hamas is an arm of Shin Bet.
	If you've got a problem with it, have a problem with the Jerusalem Post and others.
	But that's all in order out of chaos, elite-sponsored terror, and the New World Order.
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	Now, Jan and Paul and others, your calls are coming up.
	The toll-free number to join us on air is 1-800-259-9231.
	But for the next ten minutes or so, I want to talk to Kevin Smith, who I appreciate coming on the show.
	Kevin's gone to a lot of events.
	He's videotaped the Patriot Act behavior here in Austin when we threw that out, thanks to folks at Action out there.
	And he's videotaped my confrontation with Vicente Foxx.
	He's done a lot of good work, and Kevin has been to all four of the New World Order Understanding Terrorism Homeland Security Symposiums at the LBJ Library.
	I've been there twice.
	He's been to four of these.
	And now they're closed door.
	They're public, but you can't have cameras.
	And they said it's because, oh, we have a Mossad Hamas double agent.
	But they said, you can use her name, you just don't want her face being seen, because it's her face that's important.
	And of course, we respected that.
	But Kevin came up to her, and that's why I mentioned that Order Out of Chaos gets into who founded Hamas.
	Because when he brought it up to her, she just admitted it.
	And Kevin, good to have you on the show.
	Good to be with you today, Alex.
	Just tell folks about the, quote, New World Order Terrorism Symposium, and, I mean, that's what they call the first one through the fourth, the New World Order Understanding Terrorism, and what happened there, what it was like, and then this Mossad-slash-darker-skinned lady so she could play the part of a Hamas character.
	Well, it was basically a CIA and...
	There was also a Rhodes Scholar there.
	You had to register before you went in.
	And I went to set up the camera and I had one of the General Meg's minions come over and tell me that I wouldn't be allowed to film.
	And I said, well, there goes the First Amendment, huh?
	It's out the window.
	And they said, well, we made an arrangement with this person because she's a double agent with Mossad and we agreed not to film her face.
	And my point was, that's not an American agent.
	What loyalty do I have to that person?
	But I agreed and her lecture was
	By the way, since they built this thing in the 70s, you know, big presidential library, you can videotape everything.
	So, you know, they just started doing this because we've been taking these things over.
	Yeah, well, I went down to her, and, you know, I'll have to plug your book, Water Out of Chaos.
	All I did was go back to that, and the way that book is arranged, it's hyperlinked at the bottom to the quotes in the index.
	I just printed those articles up
	We're good to go.
	I'm off.
	Now, tell us her name, because that part was public.
	Her name is Yael Shahar.
	Yael Shahar, and she looks like an Arab.
	She's a little dark-complexed.
	She's an attractive woman, but she's the director of database program for International Policy Institute of Counterterrorism.
	Yeah, the point is I wasn't going into her skin color.
	I was pointing out that she's an infiltrator into all this.
	She well easily could do that.
	As a matter of fact, she had acknowledged that she had
	She had foiled some suicide bombing attacks.
	But, you know, I think that's the deal.
	When confronted, when the documents put in front of them, acknowledge it.
	Now, you talk about a well-known professor running over to you and talking about how the government was behind the chair.
	Well, he had brought up to them, his name is Galbraith, and he had come in and said, when are you guys going to quit talking about Israel and Syria and whoever else is next on the list and bring up,
	The fact that your boys, the ISI in Pakistan, are the ones that are proliferating all these nuclear weapons.
	And he was really discouraged by what he was hearing.
	And I believe he, on paper, probably believed and went along with what they were trying to do.
	But now that he's seeing it implemented, it's not the way he wanted.
	But he told me they're getting desperate that the thing's blowing up in their face and this is part of damage control for them, I suppose.
	And there was even this Rhodes Scholar person there who was agreeing with you.
	Well, if people get your video, Matrix of Evil, they'll get to see our Justice Department minion here in Austin, Ron Sievert.
	And he had gone on his little five-minute lecture before the panel discussion and questions and answers, and he said, well, people are concerned about the sneaking pig.
	People are concerned about warrantless searches and...
	Whether or not there's any attorney-client privilege any longer.
	He says, well, that's just all not true.
	We still have to get warrants.
	And that's a lie.
	Of course it's a lie.
	And I confront him in the film and call him a liar.
	I got to go after him this time.
	And he said, well, so with the attorney-client privilege, it's really not a violation because we're notifying them ahead of time.
	So there's no violation.
	And my analogy was, sir, I'm telling you in two minutes from now, I'm going to stand up and go and punch you in the face.
	I think so.
	I think so.
	It's the same argument he's using.
	But during that exchange... Yeah, he's saying that, oh, we have to tell you that you don't have any attorney-client privilege, so that makes it okay.
	And then, oh, we have to have warrants.
	Well, they admit that the bill says no longer need a warrant.
	And now you then brought up Section 802 to him.
	Oh, you've seen him in operation.
	They'll deny every bit of it.
	That's when the friction started between another one of the panel members, Sarah Cleveland, who's a Rhodes Scholar and law professor.
	She'd had enough of this guy deciding when someone would be an American citizen and when they wouldn't be.
	There was quite a bit of contention between them two.
	The man that had shoved me two meetings ago, he ends up not just being some low-level minion.
	His name is Scott Bates.
	He's a senior policy advisor for House Select Committee on Homeland Security.
	He was in Kosovo as the director of the National Democratic Institute in Pristina.
	In June of 2002, he went to Afghanistan and worked with Loya Jirga to support their efforts to create a transitional government.
	And it turns out, wasn't he like the youngest?
	At 26, he became Secretary of State of Virginia, so...
	He didn't really strike me as being that much of a whiz kid, so I don't... And by the way, this is the guy...
	Who, when you're there trying to film while there are other cameras filming, he runs over and starts bumping into you, pushing you, saying, you can't film.
	I heard what you said, and you were remembering just vicious, viciousness.
	So, I mean, that's how few of these people there are, is that we go to these New World Order meetings, it's called New World Order, and we have former Secretary of State and CFR members running security.
	I mean, they're pathetic.
	Yeah, they're not very scary.
	But, hey, Alex, I wanted to get a plug-in for something that's going on tonight I just became aware of at Trinity University in San Antonio, and I'll give their website out.
	It's www.trinity.edu, and the contact number is 210-999-8406.
	Okay, but tell folks what it is first, because I don't... Here we go.
	Tonight, David Kaye is speaking...
	The Distinguished Lecture Series for Spring of 2004 at Trinity University.
	And David Kaye's the inspector that said, yes, they have weapons of mass destruction.
	Now he says they lied.
	Well, he'll be speaking at the Lurie Auditorium tonight at 730 in San Antonio.
	So if anybody's in the area, and this is not someone to be jumped and ganged up on.
	I think this is a guy that's willing to...
	Okay, and so that's in San Antonio tonight at Trinity University.
	Kevin, going back to this Mossad slash Hamas agent, you brought up to her the printed off UPI and her rights and in Jerusalem Post articles, and you say you handed out like 50 of these.
	What was their response to, you know, all these mainstream news articles?
	Her response out of the eye of everyone in the auditorium with just three or four people standing there was just to plainly acknowledge it and then move on.
	Other people, I put them out and quite a few people came up and grabbed the documents and sat back and read them.
	Then they came up to us after it was over.
	We went to lunch with some of them.
	It's all there.
	I really have to plug that great book, Order Out of Chaos.
	It was so easy for me to take those documents straight off the Internet.
	The woman is very pleasant.
	I don't have any personal grudge against this person.
	She was pretty straightforward with me about it.
	It did not match her lecture.
	To hear her tell it, every Muslim has fangs and eats babies.
	All right, well, Kevin, good to have you on the show.
	I appreciate you going and checking that out for us.
	I wish I felt a little better, but I've got whatever you had last week probably or whatever they sprayed us with, and my throat's pretty tore up.
	All right, well, thanks for what you did.
	I appreciate it.
	No problem.
	I'll try to get down there the next time, too.
	All right, great.
	It's so important to confront these people.
	And to let them know that we're aware of their activities.
	Let's talk to Jan in Colorado.
	Jan, thanks for holding her on the air.
	Yes, thank you.
	I appreciate your work.
	You're sure doing a nice job.
	Alex, I saw your video, Bohemian Grove, and I had one question, and I can't find the information on it, and maybe you could help me.
	What is the cremation of care?
	Sure.
	What are the roots of that?
	Is it a real sacrifice?
	Yes.
	Well, I mean, it's a real ritual.
	I don't know if they're actually killing a baby.
	Okay, they address it as the great owl of Bohemia.
	They address it in the female, and they address it in the male connotation.
	For those that just joined us, Bohemian Grove, since 1872, is an elite encampment in Northern California in a 2,700-acre redwood grove with a giant stone owl, and it doubles as a bull.
	Again, all these Babylonian gods had two sides, or two manifestations.
	And they would take a child before it and burn it.
	And then the Canaanites would come down and grab Israeli children and haul them back up and then sacrifice to the god.
	And your dictionary has the definition of Moloch in it, the human sacrifice god.
	The cremation of care is the height of black magic, the height of Babylon mystery religion.
	It is the do as thou wilt, don't have a conscience...
	Shed your responsibilities when you have to go into the marketplace.
	It is a ritual to have no conscience.
	They actually say that and to not care and to cremate care.
	And they do that by destroying innocence or this child.
	And then that's, of course, what Satanists do in their more druidic or modern expression of Satanism, kidnapping a baby, cutting its heart out for power.
	But you don't think it's a real baby?
	I was over 100 yards away, and again, it's aired on national television on the Trio Network footage I shot, and it's aired on British television, and it's up to folks to make their own decision, but I tend to believe it wasn't a baby.
	I mean, I just want to believe that.
	They're sacrificing in the real world with depleted uranium and cluster bombs and fluoride and vaccines and Ritalin and Prozac.
	This is a ritual symbolizing that they don't care and for another year the ritual protects them from what they call bad karma or conscience.
	This is a ritual to protect them from their activities.
	Again, the devil always engages in a counterfeit.
	It's kind of like they're covering themselves in the blood for another year to protect themselves, you know, like Christians cover themselves in the blood of Christ.
	Right.
	And I'm going to see The Passion today, by the way.
	Okay, well, I appreciate that.
	Thank you.
	Okay, thank you.
	I'm glad I can answer your question.
	Yes, I'm very excited.
	Let's talk to Paul.
	Let's talk to Paul in New York.
	Go ahead, Paul.
	Paul, you're on the air, buddy.
	Or maybe not.
	Maybe you're not there.
	You know what?
	We'll go to Christopher in Ottawa, Canada after the break.
	We're too close to break here.
	We'll come back and go to more calls.
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	You read this article out of Missouri.
	They took the child for no reason and killed it.
	Well, statistically, they're the most dangerous people, yeah.
	So we'll come back with all this, too.
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	Let's go ahead and talk to Christopher in Canada.
	Christopher, welcome to the Airwaves.
	Thank you.
	Hi, Alex.
	Hello.
	Talking about First Amendment, your guest was mentioning First Amendment and Matrix of Evil.
	Okay, I ordered your films, and I ordered two books.
	They were shipped out December 17th, never came to Canada, to the Nazi northern Canada.
	Yeah, we'll just keep sending it out to you.
	And I'm sorry, you hear all the folks... You know what I would like to suggest?
	That you give an option to the International Canadian Shipping to ship registered mail or UPS, something with a signature, you know?
	Yeah, they haven't been as bad lately, but I've actually, two years ago, I got a letter from Canada from Customs saying this is contraband.
	Oh.
	And sometimes that happens from England, but yeah, just call my office, we'll ship it out to you.
	Nazi state.
	Registered mail.
	Yeah, Canada is the worst.
	England, no problem.
	Germany, no problem.
	Australia, no problem.
	They open a lot of stuff, and a lot of people have had a problem with Canada.
	I'll have to get the number.
	The next thing is, the B.C.
	government, yesterday on the news here, announced that they're selling off
	Let me give you an example of this.
	My friend makes comedy videos.
	You know, mainstream stuff that's aired on HBO.
	And he was going to FedEx some to a film critic in England.
	And when FedEx came to his house, they said, well because of the Patriot Act, we've got to know everything that's on these videos.
	He had to fill out four pages of forms per video.
	They can buy their own and watch them if they want to know what's on them.
	Well, I mean, but that's what I'm saying.
	Yeah, I understand.
	In America, FedEx makes you fill out what the video's about.
	Oh, FedEx now is a government agent.
	Oh, no.
	Well, what they do is they collect data, yeah.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And, you know, it's all fast approaching.
	I'd like to remind all Americans and Canadians to stand up and be in their face to let them know that we know and they're going to answer to this.
	They will be...
	I'll prosecute it one day for doing all this, okay?
	They will.
	I tried to explain to my colleagues at work.
	I work for Nortel Networks.
	It's like a big Cisco in Canada.
	Huge, huge.
	And I tried to explain to them the importance of the Second Amendment and why it was put in there into the United States Constitution.
	I tried to make them aware that these people are just communists.
	Socialists that say, oh, any nation that puts guns ahead of health care is insane.
	And I tell him, well, I think you have a right to defend yourself before you have a right or an obligation to take care of someone else's health, unless it's your own family.
	Absolutely.
	And the areas that have guns have lower crime rates.
	And then once they start reading the American...
	Declaration of Independence and why the Second Amendment was put in there to protect the citizens against their own government.
	Absolutely.
	Christopher, we got a break and start the second hour, but let me talk to you during the break and give you my office phone number.
	Yeah, that would be nice.
	And yeah, I'm going to get that out to you registered mail.
	In fact, we're supposed to do that.
	There was probably a record of it with your horrible customs department.
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	It is Wednesday, the 25th day.
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	Colonel Don DeGrand is an author.
	He's a military veteran.
	He put on a symposium a few years ago that made headlines in major newspapers in Portugal.
	We have one of those articles posted.
	And it says a Portugal-based investigative journalist has presented the news with a version of the September 11th attacks that has to date failed to attract the attention of the international press.
	The report compiled by the Independent Inquiry in the September 11th World Trade Center attacks warns the American public that the government's official version of events does not stand up to scrutiny.
	And the man who put this on was Colonel Don DeGrande, who's an American,
	And the 72-hour non-stop symposium deliberation by a group of military and civilian pilots under the chairmanship of Colonel Don DeGrand after deliberating non-stop for 72 hours has concluded that the flight crews of the four passenger airliners involved in the September 11th tragedy had no control over their aircraft.
	And they get into how the globalists clearly carried it out.
	Now this was two years ago, folks.
	Very cutting edge.
	Now, the mainstream foreign press has addressed it, and most Europeans believe the U.S.
	government carried it out.
	A lot of Americans are now waking up and talking to this trailblazer, cutting edge pioneer, Colonel Don DeGrand.
	It's an honor, sir, to have you on the show.
	Hey, Alex, it's good to be aboard.
	It's good to be here.
	You know, we're going to break here in about a minute and a half, but give folks your bio.
	Tell us about Colonel Don DeGrand.
	Well, you've got part of the name correct.
	It's a hyphenated word.
	The last name, it's Grand Prix.
	Yes, Colonel Don de Grand Prix.
	That's how I addressed you this morning and on the website, but the Portugal newspaper just says Colonel Don de Grand.
	That's okay.
	I've talked to these guys and they're good.
	They almost got it correct.
	I'll give you a quick bio.
	I entered the military in 1944 as a
	18-year-old radio operator, Morse code, and I was sent to Burma in China.
	I was attached to Detachment 101, which was OSS, and I operated out of Burma and then later on in Kunming, China, along with such notable people as a tall, skinny gal by the name of Julia Child.
	She's since put on a little weight, and now she's doing television commercials, I guess.
	But I came back on active duty in 1950 as a commissioned officer, infantry airborne, and I got involved in the Korean fracas for a year and a half until I was wounded.
	Then I was shipped home for two years while I recuperated.
	And then I came back in... I'll tell you what, Colonel Don DeGrandpre, let's stay right there.
	Let's recap when we get back and go through the rest of your bio.
	And then launch into this amazing symposium you put on two years ago and why you did it in Portugal.
	So stay with us.
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	We're talking to Colonel Don DeGran Free.
	We have a news article about an incredible symposium he put on two years ago in Portugal, covered by front page newspaper and magazine, Portugal's, one of their major papers.
	And a lot of key info came out, very cutting edge.
	And this is his first interview since he had a stroke over a year ago, and it's great to have the Colonel on the show.
	So he got into OSS right at the end of World War II, then went into Korea for a year and a half, was wounded with the airborne, and that's where we left off, Colonel.
	Please continue with your bio.
	Okay, Alex.
	Actually, I went to work then for SecDef Bob McNamara.
	He hired me as the Chief Arms Negotiator for the Middle East.
	We conducted our business there.
	We were known as the super salesmen in ISA, International Security Affairs.
	Over a 10-year period, we sold over $100 billion worth of military equipment to all comers.
	Then, you mentioned the interview in Portugal.
	I didn't actually go to Portugal, but on 11 September, actually it was 12 September, I wrote to my friend General Hugh Shelton, who was Chairman of the Joint Chiefs at that time.
	He was transisting out, and he was replaced by General Richard... What the heck was...
	The chairman of the Joint Chiefs, the name escapes me, but he was a four-star Air Force general.
	And Myers, I guess, was the name.
	At any rate, I called together from 16 through 19 September in the Pentagon area, not in the Pentagon, a group of military, civilian, and general aviation pilots
	And for three days we kicked around what actually happened on 11 September.
	And then the investigative journalist covered that and it was reported in the Portugal News and very accurate.
	I have the report in front of me and it is quite involved but if you have some questions fire away Alex.
	Well, now, you got these military officers together, and then I guess the only place I ever saw it get reported on was here in Portugal, talked about the symposium.
	Of course, I've read one of your fine books.
	And we'll talk about that as well a little bit later in the show and take some calls.
	But what was laid out, what I saw in the four-page article two years ago, has turned out to be very accurate.
	Tell us about the military officers, the pilots, the civilian pilots that were there, and the conclusions you came to in this 72-hour nonstop interview.
	Please go over that for us.
	Okay, Alex.
	The group of pilots, and they will remain anonymous, were a wonderful mix of commercial, military, and civilian pilots.
	At any rate, after three days, the decisions were unanimous, and I wrote my 24-page report up and submitted it to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs.
	And that report ultimately got into the hands of the vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs on 23 January 2002.
	The general was a U.S.
	Marine Corps general by the name of Peter Pace.
	And I got a telephone call 5 March from one of his horseholders, who was a Colonel, an Air Force type, and he informed me that...
	General Peter Pace had gotten the 24 pages and that he in effect had no comment at this time but he used the old Marine Corps lingo semper fi or always faithful and we let it go at that.
	Later on I continued my correspondence with the Vice Chairman and most recently I got a letter 8 November 2003 from Peter Pace
	To me, carrying on about not only the investigation, but about the three books that I've written since that time.
	Now, Colonel, going over your report and the committee meeting you guys had to put out what you believe really happened,
	Now, as more evidence has come out, it shows that that's clearly exactly what happened.
	Now they're using 9-11 to turn this country into a total police state.
	I mean, how do you see us turning this around?
	The turning around is not going to be that easy.
	I look at the final paragraph of this Portuguese report, and here's what the final paragraph said.
	So far, the mainstream American news media has failed to publish or broadcast any details regarding the independent inquiry.
	Similarly, the White House, whilst having received a copy of the report, has remained silent on its findings.
	Well, we know that a copy... First of all, I have to back up a little.
	The chairman of the Joint Chiefs had 500 copies of this 24-page report made
	And sent out, including the White House.
	And I have to say it was including President Bush.
	So they got a copy of the report.
	That was Myers at the time?
	That is correct.
	And so, I mean, if he sent out 500 copies, that would mean that he believed in it.
	I'm quite sure that he believed in it, and I think that he still believes in it.
	You can understand the difficulties.
	The administration, the civilian administration, of course, won't recognize it as such.
	How did you find out that the chairman of the Joint Chiefs had sent this out?
	I got a telephone call, and I think the date was 5 March 2002, stating that at the time the chairman of the Joint Chiefs had no comment, but he used the Marine Corps lingo, Semper Fi...
	Some perfidelity.
	Always faithful.
	And that triggered in me further memos and I traded memos with General Peter Pace and Dick Myers and they continued on.
	Until November of last year.
	Well, that had to be upsetting to Mr. Rumsfeld to have all these hundreds of your report flying around the Pentagon.
	Yeah.
	You see, there's a definite cleavage between the military of the Pentagon and the civilian hierarchy.
	And never the twain shall meet.
	Well, there was an article right after the events you talk about in mid-2002 of the Washington Times saying the morale at the Pentagon had never been lower.
	And you would think it would be high after 9-11 and getting together to fight the enemy, but it said that the officers didn't believe in the, quote, mission or in the intelligence.
	That is correct.
	That came out of the Washington Times, and I can verify that from Colonel Dick Schultz, who is a friend of mine in the Joint Chiefs.
	Morrell was not only low, but he said some of the troops are ready to mutiny.
	And if it wasn't for the fact that the government, the civilian hierarchy, has control over retirements, etc.,
	They'd probably be blood in the streets by now.
	There was also an article where they panicked in the Washington Times.
	It was also the Washington Post.
	They panicked and flew the officers on jets to luxury vacations and had these focus groups.
	It even talked about a possible mutiny.
	People were just totally distraught.
	What would make them become distraught overnight in the Pentagon?
	Well, it wasn't an overnight thing.
	You see, as I outline in Book 1, and I carry that on in Book 2 as well as Book 3, we were on the verge of a military coup d'etat.
	And this was long in the planning, and even after the 78 days of bombing Kosovo, it became critical, and we were close to a coup d'etat at that time.
	Well, in my...
	A coup was a possibility.
	In fact, a coup d'etat was pulled on the morning of September 11th.
	Only it was an administrative, or what we call a cold coup d'etat.
	Well, a reverse coup d'etat.
	Yes, in effect...
	A counter-revolutionary junta.
	Well, that is correct.
	And as we delved into that, we found that the culprits, including Rumsfeld, were part of a neocon group that had been planning this thing for literally years prior to September 11th.
	Absolutely, Colonel.
	It's just amazing picking your brain.
	We're going to break here.
	I want to just come back.
	Talking to you this morning, I was proud to know that you've been a listener to the show for a while.
	Well, I've had a single sideband shortwave set for about four years, and I listened very faithfully to Alex Jones particularly up until about two years ago, and
	As a result of the events of September 11th, I did have a stroke.
	I'm fully recovered.
	As I told Alex, I went riding my favorite corner horse this morning, so I'm back and ready for anything.
	Well, that's wonderful, Colonel.
	Okay, we'll break and come back with the Colonel.
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	Folks, we'll take some of your calls for Colonel Don DeGrandpre coming up in the next segment.
	He's done a lot of great work.
	I've only read one of his books.
	Don, tell us about some of your books and what they cover and how folks can get a copy.
	I've got three books, Alex.
	Okay.
	Under the title Barbarians Inside the Gates, book one was the
	Serpent Sting, book two is The Viper's Venom.
	Book three, which just came out, is The Rattler's Revenge.
	I'd like to quote from book two, which came out October of 2002.
	There's a very important paragraph there.
	It says, The trigger for the 9-11 activity was the imminent and unstoppable worldwide financial collapse
	And now we've seen General Eberhardt say that that's the next step.
	Tommy Frank said that's the next step.
	Are those not chilling statements?
	This next step, it was...
	Yes, they are.
	We'll be preceded by what I write up in Book 1, The Serpent Sting.
	I wrote of a coming coup d'etat, and this was written in the year 2000, and it sure blazes.
	It's coming, and it'll be preceded by these kinds of things, as enunciated by Tommy Franks, among others.
	So we're in a world of hurt, Alex.
	Now, by coup d'etat, do you mean another intensification of a reverse coup d'etat to keep the people from fighting against the New World Order?
	Or do you mean the type that Bill Clinton successfully stopped in his administration?
	Well, I'm talking about the administrative coup d'etat that came off September 11th.
	You're talking about an intensification of the elite in a coup d'etat against America.
	That is correct.
	Well, I mean, it's ongoing.
	They're federalizing everything.
	They're militarizing everything.
	They're engaging in the classic takeover, are they not?
	Yes, they are.
	And from this, Alex, and I bring this out very clearly in Book 3, the only way we can stop it is with the classic counter coup d'etat, where the military steps in.
	And under the aegis of the military itself,
	Disengaging or disemboweling the civilian hierarchy and taking over and rerunning and reorganizing the federal government.
	Now, the problem is they've got so many CFR minions in the Pentagon.
	We know that Clinton had some officers terminated in their offices, you know, shot multiple times and the rest of it.
	We know that happened.
	But the question is, how many of the high-level officers are on the globalist team?
	I can only say several of the highest-level officers.
	Our members now of the Council of Foreign Relations, the important thing to consider is how many of them are sincere in their beliefs as enunciated by the CFR.
	I believe there are several sleepers, and I believe I know some of them personally, who are three- and four-star generals.
	They're members of the CFR, but their heart belongs to Jesus, if I can use that expression, because...
	They are true Semper Fidelity people.
	Some of them happen to be Marines.
	And I'm counting on them to do the right thing.
	And I bring this out in Book 3.
	Absolutely, and we'll tell folks how they can get those books.
	I mean, I want to carry them.
	But, Colonel, your experience in the military, your experience in the intelligence agencies,
	There's also the danger, though, obviously, in any military movement of that nature, that it could be self-serving as well and set up its own form of wickedness.
	Yes, that's plausible.
	That's correct.
	I don't believe it'll happen in exactly that fashion.
	And the thing about a coup d'etat and a counter-coup d'etat is you never know when it's going to happen.
	You never know exactly who's involved, and this is a plus for any planners of a counter coup d'etat.
	Well, this is certainly dividing the wheat from the chaff, because how many people, and we'll get the answer for the question when we get back, from your feelers in the Pentagon, how many people in there now know that an element of the global system, a crime syndicate,
	Carried out 9-11.
	I mean, only an idiot would think they didn't.
	But the point is, this has got to be accelerating the division.
	And I want to get your take on the pulse of that.
	We'll take calls when we get back.
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	We're talking to Colonel Don DeGrandpre, and worked at many different levels of the U.S.
	military, and has put out some really important information.
	Two years ago, he put out a report in a meeting, in a 72-hour deliberation,
	Group of military and civilian U.S.
	pilots under the chairmanship of Colonel Don DeGran, after deliberating nonstop for 72 hours, has concluded that the flight crews of the four passenger airliners involved in the September 11th tragedy had no control over the aircraft, and they get into how the military-industrial complex clearly, that is, elements of it, were in control of this.
	Colonel, we're going to go to some calls here in a few minutes after you've covered some other issues with us.
	But to understand this, my question of what percentage of the officer's period in the military do you think have finally woken up to the true magnitude of what's going on?
	Well, I'm in personal contact at least on a weekly basis with the Joint Chiefs and other select people.
	My computation is that 70% of us are with us
	That's the higher-ranking military, a few great officers, etc., and even the first three graders of the enlisted.
	Seventy percent are with us.
	Well, they've had questionnaires, you know, a decade ago, well, you fire on U.S.
	citizens under U.N.
	control, and the President says so, and, you know, 74 percent say no to that, so...
	Okay, well then how are the globalists getting away with this?
	Sheriff Frontcrete, it's one big bluff and we can thank many of the neocons who are now in power in the Defense Department particularly.
	They get away with it because they try it out and see if anybody will salute the flag and
	That's the way it goes.
	So basically, they wrap their un-American agenda in the flag, and the general public buys it, so the military has to sit there and take it.
	They do, yes, and I think those days are coming to an end.
	The military ain't going to take it any longer.
	Well, I mean, how did the military ever get convinced to use depleted uranium in areas where there's going to be troops?
	To put what, Alex?
	Well, I mean, yeah.
	The military gets treated like dog meat.
	You've got the depleted uranium, Colonel, where they spray depleted uranium everywhere and then the troops breathe it at 1,900 times safe levels.
	I mean, yeah.
	How can the Pentagon put up with that?
	Well, the DU rounds are overplayed, first of all.
	The...
	They aren't that potent.
	And secondarily, we must consider that weapons of mass destruction have already been used by some of the opposition in the period February of 1991.
	Weapons of mass destruction including low-yield nuclear weapons.
	Okay, can you break that down for us?
	Well, I break it down in the time frame that we had satellite images of rounds or missiles being fired from the Negev Desert toward Baghdad.
	That's 600 miles distance.
	And six or eight of the rounds came in.
	That was February of 1991.
	Are you saying the Israelis use miniaturized nuclear weapons?
	Yes, sir.
	That's what I'm saying in plain English.
	Well, I remember, and I know they brag they have a lot of really sophisticated miniaturized nuclear weapons.
	That is correct.
	And I have verification of that.
	I think it's in Book 2.
	I think it will stand up in most scrutiny.
	Well, I know your work on September 11th certainly has.
	Do you think the globalists are going to have the will to carry out another massive attack here in the U.S.
	to try to
	Well, that's a two-pronged question, Alex.
	I think it deserves a studied answer.
	The only thing I can say is I'm not sure of how it'll turn out, but...
	It's very dangerous.
	Well, from watching The Globalist, I think they had a plan.
	They're still following a plan.
	But I think they're shook up.
	I think from the evidence, in fact, I know from the evidence, a lot of things they planned haven't gone according to schedule, and so they don't know what to do right now.
	This is correct.
	I think it's personified in the persona of the Deputy Secretary of Defense, Paul Wolfowitz.
	They almost got him in Baghdad when they fired the salvo one night of weaponry, and they scared Paul Wolfowitz off.
	He's ready to resign.
	Do you think that was U.S.
	forces doing that?
	I believe it.
	It was very well planned, again.
	And only U.S.
	forces would know that he would be there, yeah.
	That is correct.
	And the precision of those weapons that came into the hotel.
	There were 11 rounds in all, and I can speak from authenticity that they scared the hell out of Paul Wolfowitz.
	And probably C. Paul Brenner, or whatever his name is.
	Bremer?
	Why does the Pentagon, elements of the Pentagon, hate Wolfowitz?
	Wolfowitz has been in this game since 1974.
	I was still on active duty when I met him in 1974, and he was coming on strong even then.
	And along with him, Richard Pearl and a couple of the others who are now known as New Conservatives.
	Now, Pearl had the nickname as the Crazy and the Prince of Darkness, correct?
	That is correct.
	Why was he known as the Prince of Darkness?
	Um...
	I can't answer that directly.
	He was a snake to begin with, but nothing was ever straightforward as far as Richard Perle was concerned.
	I introduced Book 3 to a quote stating that Richard Perle is a madman, and it goes on from there.
	Well, he is a madman.
	He was at a press dinner last year, and again, giggling and laughing about how we're going to have World War III, we're going to nuke everyone, ha ha ha, and then he goes, isn't that impressive, and like sort of grabbing on some women.
	I mean, he's a complete lunatic.
	That is correct.
	Richard Perle's days are numbered.
	I don't know if he realizes it, but so many of these so-called neocons, you'll notice now that they are very quiet indeed.
	They're not really surfacing anymore, including Dick Cheney.
	Yeah, why has Dick Cheney been literally hiding under a bunker?
	He's been hiding under a bunker most of the time since September 11th.
	And by the way, it has come out that he took control of NORAD and was saying something in the U.S.
	ultra-secret bunkers that he was on loudspeakers ordering people to follow his orders.
	He had to physically take control of something.
	From my sources, it was the fact that they were going to go ahead and shoot the aircraft down.
	That's what I've got from lawyers who represent military officers.
	We know he was in control, though.
	Even during the hijackings, the supposed hijackings, what do you know about that?
	Well, not too much, really.
	I can't speak to that because it's hypothetical.
	And what I try to stick to are cold, hard facts.
	Well, I mean, Colonel, we know he did take control of the bunkers.
	We just don't know what he said, according to ABC News.
	But according to my sources, who've been very accurate, he was ordering the stand-downs.
	Yes, I can believe it, but again, it's supposition, and I still haven't been able to figure out what makes Dick Cheney tick.
	So, well, then why is he hiding in a bunker?
	Why is he at the Naval Observatory in a bunker most of the time?
	I think that that's what he considers to be the safest place at the moment.
	He's basically a coward.
	And this too will come out.
	I feel that Dick Cheney and Paul Rothowitz, both of them, their days are numbered.
	Okay.
	So politically, more and more corruption coming out, more and more of their criminal activities coming out, serious issues.
	Colonel, how do folks get your books, the three-part series?
	Okay, the book is easy to come by.
	My incomparable daughter, Doniva, is the publisher of these books, and they're turning out top-grade library-quality books, books 1, 2, and 3, Barbarians Inside the Gates.
	They can be obtained by writing Post Office Box 1124, Madison, VA.,
	22727 and send it in care of Grand Pre Publishing Limited.
	And for the price of $30, you can get book one.
	$30 again is book two.
	And then for book three that just came out, and it's a big book, 608 pages, we've had to up the price to $45.
	All right, these are thick books, jam-packed, and the address is 1124 Madison, Virginia.
	And that zip code again?
	22727.
	All right, and does that $30 include the shipping?
	No, it really doesn't.
	For the books, and we send them all out, priority, special handling.
	That runs $3.85 a book.
	Okay, gotcha.
	All right, we'll give that out again a little bit later.
	Let's go ahead and take some calls.
	Thanks for holding, folks.
	Whatever issue you bring up, I'm sure the colonel can comment on.
	Glenn in Colorado, thanks for holding.
	Go ahead.
	Okay, put him on hold.
	He's got his radio on.
	Glenn, we'll come back to you in a few minutes.
	Brian in Texas.
	Brian, go ahead.
	Yeah, hey, what's going on, Alex?
	Go ahead.
	Fine, sir.
	Yeah, I've been on hold for a while.
	Sorry to kind of switch subjects like this, but talking about The Passion.
	Oh, yes, The Passion of Christ.
	Right, right, the movie.
	I had a question.
	I've known in the past that you've talked about people who do these movies like The Skulls, and you kind of paint a picture that it's some agenda to take away from the legitimacy of the argument.
	And I wonder, when you talk about conspiracy theory, that's also a Mel Gibson movie, that you don't kind of put it in those same terms.
	Well, I mean, I'm not going to tell you what I know about Mel Gibson, but I know a lot of private stuff, and I know the family, and I've met a lot of the family, and I'm not going to go any further.
	But Mel Gibson's the real deal and knows as much as I do about the New World Order and listens to these shows, watches my videos, knew about the New World Order when I was in diapers.
	Mel Gibson's the real deal.
	Colonel, do you have any comments about Mel Gibson?
	I know him personally, and I know his father Hutton, who's a dear friend of mine.
	He was originally from San Antonio, Texas, and now Hutton has moved to West Virginia, and he's still very active at 85.
	Mel is top drawer.
	I could find nothing wrong with Mel Gibson whatsoever.
	Yeah, so that's what's going on there.
	No, I'm sure he's a great guy and everything.
	Mel Gibson's had to pay his dues to get to where he's at.
	Now he makes the films he wants.
	Patriot, Braveheart, The Passion of Christ.
	He's doing a great job.
	Right, making a lot of money.
	You know what?
	That's good.
	It's good to make money if you're doing a good thing.
	Nothing wrong with making money.
	Yeah.
	In fact, I'm going to go... I already spent some of my money today.
	I'm going to go...
	Hey, thanks a lot, man.
	I appreciate it.
	You know, this idea that you can't make money, I mean, look, let's say I could make 100 videos and hand them out for free.
	Or I could sell my videos and be able to get out thousands.
	I'm not the Carnegie Foundation.
	Now, if I did have $20 billion, yes, I would spend the interest on it each year fighting the New World Order.
	But I don't have $20 billion.
	Colonel, you want to comment on this trend of we patriots should live in cardboard boxes?
	No, decidedly not.
	We have to... If we're a true patriot, we have to recognize the...
	Absolutely.
	I mean, you know, take my videos.
	I tell people to make copies of them.
	And then I get calls going, well, can't you just give me one?
	I mean, I could do that for a couple weeks, folks.
	It's funny.
	Thanks for the call, Brian.
	Let's see if Glenn has got his radio off.
	Oh, Glenn hung up.
	Well, sorry, Glenn.
	Okay.
	Ron in New York.
	You're on the air with Colonel Don DeGrandpour.
	Go ahead.
	Hi, gentlemen.
	I was calling about something else, but it'll dovetail into this.
	Your last caller, I don't understand this philosophy other than I do see it being propagated by the corporate media now in reference to Mel Gibson that turning a fair and legitimate profit is somehow illicit.
	So I guess we're supposed to allow Luciferians to make profit.
	We're supposed to live, as you say, in a box.
	It doesn't make any sense.
	Well, I mean, how is Mel Gibson going to make more movies if he doesn't make money on things?
	Alex, I'm watching the media here in New York that's been critical of that movie.
	This is corporate media brainwashing.
	This is a subtle way in which they enter your subconscious to make you turn against the person who did something positive.
	But yet nobody seems to have a problem with wicked people who make profits.
	I'd like to ask you a guess.
	Colonel, I'd like to ask you, if you're familiar with Alex Jones, he was threatened by one.
	These movie producers now, I guess you could say they're working for Pentagon Productions.
	I believe the Kelly Lynch Rescue was one of their main productions.
	Alex could probably give you the exact name of the individual.
	I believe he was threatened by him once.
	Yeah, Lionel Chetwin.
	Does he know anything about that propaganda?
	Yeah, we've got elements of the government helping produce these propaganda pieces, Colonel.
	We'll get your comment on that when we get back.
	Stay there, Ron.
	And then we'll go to John and Wayne and Diane and John and everybody else for our guest, Colonel Don DeGrand Prix.
	And we'll be right back.
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	I think what Ron in New York, Colonel Don DeGrand Prix, is getting to is I turn on shows like Threat Matrix for 24, and on every episode the police are torturing the would-be terrorist.
	Torture's good, martial law's good, gun control's good.
	These messages, not just on the news, but in the television shows, and there's been articles that the military, the government is involved in financing this.
	Your response to his question?
	Well, I must split the two elements.
	The uniformed military, as opposed to the civilian hierarchy, and it flies under the aegis of defense departments.
	Yeah, that's what I mean.
	The big egghead scientists in suits who are figuring out all the mind control.
	We don't mean the military.
	You mean like John Poindexter?
	Yeah, like John Poindexter.
	This is correct, and you've got one of the guys.
	Um...
	But my percentage remains the same.
	Seventy percent of the uniformed military are with us, and if push comes to shove, they can prove it.
	Do you think that's what's been holding them back going to full-bore martial law, Colonel?
	Yes, I do.
	Yes, I do.
	They're afraid of the civilian hierarchy and the power that it has in the persona of Homeland Security at all.
	But when the military strikes, it will strike to kill.
	Okay, Ron, anything else?
	Yes.
	This gets to something you spoke of last week with police operations.
	You had spoken of what I can only describe as home invasions in, I believe you said, Houston or the Dallas area, in Texas at the very least.
	Where they'll say they hear shots fired when, in fact, no shots are fired, so they could actually just go into somebody's home.
	Well, their favorite thing is to say, you had a 9-11 call, then you checked the records the next day, it never happened, and you just wake up with a SWAT team standing around you.
	Alex, that is something that is taking place here in New York.
	I had an associate of mine.
	You know I'm retired, of course, from law enforcement.
	And like the military, you have two categories of people.
	Those that are basically decent and, you know, believe in the rule of law, as we morally understand that, and then moral degenerates.
	That's what's happened.
	I'm sorry, but that's the truth.
	Who filtered into that?
	And you will find that these morally degenerated units engage in that here.
	That happened just the other day, an incident.
	This is what's going on.
	It's like they're trying to graft police and military forces to do dirty work, but they can't get all the police and all the military personnel to go along with it.
	And this is slowing them up.
	However, they're still out there, and they're still trying to push it, and this is going on.
	This is like a battle between the light and the darkness.
	This is really what's going on.
	It is, and we'll get the Colonel's comments on that and take more calls here in just a few minutes.
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	All right, my friends.
	We're now 30 seconds into this third hour.
	And we're about to go straight back to your calls and get into more news with our guest, our colonel.
	Don DeGrandpre, and, well, going back two years ago, he had a symposium outside D.C.
	that got picked up by the Portugal newspapers, but not our newspapers, of course.
	A 72-hour nonstop deliberation chaired by Colonel Don DeGrandpre by a group of military and civilian U.S.
	pilots under the chairmanship.
	Of our guests going over how the official story of 9-11 is a complete trod.
	It'd be a joke if so many people weren't killed.
	So, Colonel, the militarization of police, the brainwashing of police, all this urban warfare training, the busting in the doors without the warrants, the Patriot Act...
	The cameras going up on the street corners, all part of this DARPA control grid.
	Can you speak to that?
	Yes, I can.
	I'm fairly familiar with DARPA and the way they operate.
	It is not military per se.
	It is scientific, and it's usually civilian instigated.
	Policy formulation and whatnot are coming out of the civilian hierarchy.
	And to make a long story short...
	Somebody, sooner than later, is going to say enough is enough, and it'll be a military guy, and when that happens, it's going to hit the fan.
	Okay, well, let's go ahead and go to John in New York, then Wayne, Diane, John, Scott, and others.
	Go ahead, John.
	Alex, thanks for taking my call.
	Terrific guest.
	I called in about a news article, a very important...
	And after I give everybody information about that, I'd like to make a comment about 9-1-1.
	In the Rochester, New York, Democrat and Chronicle website, democratandchronicle.com, February 20, 2004, it's an article about substitute blood going to be used...
	Without knowledge and without permission to the people that they're going to give it to them.
	Yeah, that was in the Chicago Tribune up at Loyola University.
	Now they say, we don't care if you don't want to have medical experiments done.
	When you come to the hospital, we're not going to tell you, and we're just going to do this to you.
	I mean, that's an example of the level of just craziness with government pushing the envelope.
	Go ahead.
	Well, what people that
	Our concern about this is they should absolutely get a copy of this article from the Democrat and Chronicle website.
	They should call their state legislators and make a lot of noise about it, because I'm going to send it to my state senator.
	Well, that's like hospitals around here.
	You're not an organ donor.
	They still take your organs.
	I mean, Colonel, this is just... Why is government everywhere and private industry just engaging in so much wild criminal activity right now?
	It's fascism.
	Well, it is.
	But let me say this from a positive standpoint.
	I just came from an emergency where I had four units of blood plasma pumped into me.
	And I feel great, and this came from the University of Virginia cardiac bunch, and I'd go to hell and back for any of those guys.
	Well, certainly, I mean, it's like everything, there's good people.
	I'm talking, it's always the policy makers that are doing the bad things.
	That is correct.
	Yes, indeed.
	And too bad, but so many of these policy makers, and that's their exact title, Policy Operations.
	This is Paul Wolfowitz and his gang again.
	They're making policy in Defense Department, the civilian hierarchy, what we call the neocons.
	And this is bad news.
	All right, caller, you had a question about 9-11?
	Yes.
	Okay, just ask it quick when we get back, and we're going to move on to all these other callers.
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	All right, eight minutes, 30 seconds into the third hour.
	Again, I'm Alex Jones, your host.
	We'll have our guest with us for about another 25 minutes or so.
	Then I'm going to get into this big stack of news we have not detailed yet.
	Believe me, it's all very important.
	Our guest is Colonel Don DeGrand Prix.
	Honored to have him on the show.
	He's the author of the three-part series of books, Barbarians Inside the Gates.
	And real quick, John in New York, you had a question about 9-11.
	It's not a question.
	I want to make a comment.
	I was in the Air Force.
	My career field was radar operations, and I was assigned to the Air Defense Command.
	The airliners turned around at Erie, Pennsylvania, and were off course for approximately one hour at the wrong altitude, at the wrong speed,
	Without radio contact, and it is absolutely insane for anybody to believe that could have happened unless people were told to stand down.
	Well, Payne Stewart...
	In 18 minutes had five F-16s around him in the middle of nowhere.
	You have the most sensitive air corridor in the world, the eastern coast there, D.C., New York, with these four planes all over the map, and they know there's been hijackings, and Dick Cheney's in control, and everything's standing down.
	The fighters that were stationed in Virginia, just across the border from Washington, D.C., could have been flying at buster speed, which is max speed.
	They could have intercepted those planes in 15 minutes and saved all that tragedy.
	And the second airplane was 15 minutes behind the first airplane, so to think that they didn't do anything about the second one makes it even more ludicrous.
	So, terrific guest, terrific show.
	Thanks for taking my call.
	All right.
	And again, we don't even do this justice to focus on one area.
	I mean, we've got all the public officials being told not to go to New York, the insider trading by the CIA, the Bushes protecting the Bin Ladens.
	Colonel, you want to comment on that?
	Well, what I was trying to get through here, John had done a beautiful job of laying it out here on 9-11.
	What I want to carry away is that the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs himself has agreed there were no hijackers, there were no cell phone calls.
	Everybody aboard that aircraft, pilots and crew, were unconscious within 8 to 18 minutes after takeoff.
	And you can take it from there.
	I've got covered in Books 2 and 3 what actually happened.
	So they're knocked out, and then the remote control takes place, and the rest is history.
	Yeah, there was remote control, and yes.
	By the way, people don't believe they have that.
	I mean, Kennedy's oldest son, JFK's big brother, died in a chase plane with a remote controlling in a...
	That is correct.
	So, I mean, this is very old technology, folks.
	And for people that are in total denial, I mean, it's ridiculous.
	Let's go ahead and talk to Wayne in Virginia.
	Wayne, thanks for holding.
	Go ahead.
	Thank you.
	Yes, sir.
	I have a two-part question.
	The first part is, Colonel...
	John DeGrandpre.
	DeGrandpre, I'm sorry, sir, I stumbled over your name there, but could you play the instructor with us, ground pounders, for a little while and tell us why, from an airmanship point of view, the maneuvers the aircraft performed were just inexplicable and bordering on the impossible from a pilot's point of view?
	Yes, let me give that real quick, Wayne, from Virginia.
	These planes were being piloted by...
	The second part of my question is,
	After 9-11, our congressman from down here, Randy Forbes, spoke at a Veterans Foreign Wars Hall about how close he was to the Bush and Rumsfeld cabal and how before 9-11 he had a briefing at the White House where they were told they were expecting something big from Afghanistan.
	And he also, in his discussion, there was about 200 or 300 people there
	It was recorded on film, and my notes are very clear on this.
	He also said they were following other aircraft out over the ocean.
	Do you have any knowledge of that?
	Something I've not heard discussed at all about 9-11.
	No, but this comes under speculation now, and I'm telling you that we are knowledgeably speculating.
	Those aircraft carrying...
	Crew and passengers went over the Atlantic, and that was all she wrote.
	The aircraft were just phased up over the Atlantic.
	Yeah, you remote control the original planes out, then you're loaded up, drones attack.
	And the major, the biggest and oldest newspaper in Spain just came out three weeks ago, and they looked at the bottom of one of those jets, and there's some type of giant belly attachment.
	It is clearly a modified aircraft.
	Can I ask one final question?
	Your line of discussion here currently in the past few minutes has just opened up.
	Yes.
	You said earlier that you expected when push comes to shove that this 70%,
	Of general and field grade officers, we're going to say that's it.
	Well, the enterprise that we're discussing here of taking loaded, regularly scheduled civilian airlines out and ditching them into the ocean and putting in their places aerial bombs... Yeah, that is push coming to shove.
	That is it.
	Why aren't these people...
	Coming forward now.
	Well, let me say this.
	We know, because, I mean, folks, I don't want to give too much to tail out, but I've talked to them, lawyers have talked to them.
	We know hundreds of high-level officers have leaked everything we're now learning about today.
	So I think that this caught a lot of people unawares.
	Colonel, you want to comment on that?
	Well, the only thing I can say is that let's consider that second aircraft that hit the World Trade Center.
	It did have a control device on the belly, 757.
	That aircraft was unmanned and went in and blew up as a diversion.
	And something else happened.
	This was a sideshow.
	I understand, but going back to when we know they had bombs in the buildings, that's now admitted, but going back to what the caller said, you're saying these elements of the military, when push comes to shove, are going to stand up.
	Well, I'd say 9-11 was the globalist pushing, so where's the shove?
	That's his question.
	This will come as is going to be in the form of a counter coup d'etat.
	You understand that a coup d'etat was pulled on September 11th by the civilian hierarchy.
	God grant that it would come soon, sir.
	Say again?
	God grant that it would come soon.
	Well, yes, it probably will.
	They're talking about going into Syria now.
	Don't believe it.
	There's a new ballgame there, and I can't go into it right now, but Syria is going to be something else entirely involving NATO forces, and I can't go into that much right now.
	Okay.
	Thanks for the call, Wayne.
	Let's talk to Diane in South Carolina.
	Diane, go ahead.
	Before I ask my question, please ask Don DeGrandpre, sir, to give us a phone number so we can contact him.
	Hi.
	And I have read the first book.
	It is awesome.
	It is like reading history and just watching everything unfold.
	Again, he wrote about it in 2000, and then it happens a year later.
	Okay, here's my question.
	On Thursday of last week in the Post in Korea in South Carolina, they had a small article on the Russians who are now doing this World War III practice.
	Yeah, the Russians are doing nuclear attack drills on us, our little buddies, yeah.
	Okay, they had in there about a maneuverable nuclear-tipped weapon system.
	For offensive purposes... Yeah, they're saying they got a missile that nothing can stop.
	It's an airplane that goes five times the speed of sound.
	This was in the paper.
	Well, they've had that for a while.
	You want to comment on that?
	And my question is, how is the foreign military in the United States versus our military...
	Going to respond, and it looks like Russia's making some moves now.
	What do you think about Russia?
	Yeah, Colonel, that's a good question.
	I mean, I have all the articles.
	I have the documents.
	They really are trying to integrate foreign units, German, Czech Republic, others into our military.
	How is that going?
	It's probably going.
	I can't give you detail.
	We're bordering on certain elements that I can't talk about, but...
	We have to consider the Russian aspect of these weapons as being, in essence, propaganda.
	We have the same type of unmanned aircraft, drones, etc., that can fly five times the speed of sound.
	They'll do a lot more than that.
	Yeah, but, Diane, let's not worry too much about the Russians.
	Well, is that that non-gravitational type airplane or something?
	No, they've got regular propulsion aircraft.
	Look, look, look, ma'am.
	They claim the SR-71 Blackbird, in flight in 55, in service in 59, is the fastest jet in the world.
	It is not the... And it cruises at Mach 3.
	Okay?
	I mean, they've got jets that'll just... Well, I know we're way behind what they're telling us.
	Yeah, do you want to comment on that?
	And ask him to give out his number for us, too.
	Let me give you a home phone where you can contact me, Grand Prairie Publishing Limited, at 540-547-2996.
	And that's my home phone.
	It's a private phone, and you can call me anytime.
	Okay, now we know that you had a stroke a few years ago worrying about this so much, so folks, don't bug him too much.
	Hey, I feel like I'm going to have one every day worrying about this.
	I can handle just about everything, including this 15-year-old building that I was riding this morning.
	Okay, well, that's good, sir.
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	We're going to take five more calls for our guests, then I'm going to let our guests go.
	I really appreciate them coming on, and I'm going to cover a bunch of news that we haven't really detailed yet.
	It's very, very important, and recap some top stories as well.
	Diane had asked for your phone number, and if you want to give it out, that's fine.
	Folks, I'm going to talk to the colonel.
	It's 540-547-2996.
	And before he leaves us in the next segment, we'll give you the mailing address again to get the books.
	Let's talk to John in Tennessee.
	John, you're on the air.
	Go ahead.
	Colonel, did a cruise missile hit the Pentagon or a Global Hawk or a drone business jet?
	You're talking about what hit the Pentagon, right, John?
	It was a cruise missile.
	It could have been a Global Hawk.
	It was not.
	A commercial aircraft.
	And that's what the eyewitnesses said and the evidence shows.
	And do people realize this was staged at the Pentagon?
	I mean, obviously the area that's under renovation and that all this happens.
	Do people at the Pentagon, are they still buying the official story, Colonel?
	Well, I can't speak for the rest of them, but I'm certainly not buying that.
	And I think I've got the full story in Book 3.
	And...
	That's it.
	It was a diversionary hit for strategic reasons, and it didn't matter whether it was a pilotless drone or a Global Hawk missile.
	It wasn't a commercial aircraft.
	It's the most surveilled area in the world, but no video of it, and witnesses said they saw a small aircraft.
	No, they did not.
	We saw segments of a...
	A video that purport to show a firing of a launch probably from a Global Hawk or an unmanned aircraft missile, but it certainly wasn't a commercial aircraft.
	A United Airlines Flight 93 shot down in Pennsylvania by a U.S.
	or NATO pilot, and was that what was supposed to hit the Pentagon?
	No, that was hit at $1,100.
	It was taken out by the North Dakota Air Guard.
	I know the pilot who fired those two missiles that took down 93.
	Was it shot down because the airline pilots actually regained control of the hijacked autopilot, or was that the replacement unmanned drone that was shot down?
	No.
	The aircraft, you see, had totally unconscious people on board.
	There were no hijackers.
	At 9.35, the Happy Hooligans, the Air Guard Flying F-16s, were ordered to take that plane out, and they took it out from 9.35 to 10 o'clock.
	Were there any refueling jets involved in that operation?
	Hold on a second, John.
	The question is, why did they deviate from the plan of flying it into the capital?
	Why did the globalists decide to go ahead and shoot the plane down?
	There had been an adjustment to the controls, probably by an AWACS aircraft flying overhead again, remote control, and it was on a course for either the Capitol or the White House.
	At this stage, you don't know.
	The Happy Hooligans came in and took care of it.
	Do you think they were not following orders?
	The Happy Hooligans?
	Well, yeah, I mean, we've got Cheney running around.
	We've got the stand-down taking place.
	Oh, this is correct, but you see, the Adjutant General of the state of North Dakota gave the command to take it out.
	And by God, they took it out.
	And I've got the full story in the book.
	That's a good thing they did that.
	You say you've talked to the pilot.
	Think about this, folks.
	Imagine what Bush would have gotten if he would have had that plane flying to the Capitol.
	Imagine the police state we'd be in right now.
	Yes, yes, yes, indeed.
	And so you have to have the diversionary blast of the Pentagon so no one would get suspicious and think it was a military coup.
	Perhaps.
	Perhaps.
	John, does that answer your question?
	Were there any refueling tankers used by the North Dakota Air Guard, and what tanker wing was used?
	I don't know about the aircraft itself.
	I don't know about refueling.
	They came off base from Langley, and it was just a few minutes out from Langley to the intercept over Pennsylvania.
	Just a matter of minutes.
	Colonel,
	How did you get in touch with the pilot who shot the plane down?
	It turned out to be an old friend of mine from the Air National Guard, and this is my home state of North Dakota.
	And I attended a ceremony, Governor of North Dakota plus the Adjutant General plus the pilots, being decorated a year later for this activity over...
	That happened on 9-11 with Flight 93.
	We're on the march.
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	We're about to go back to the Colonel and his amazing revelation of the North Dakota National Guard that had been moved to Langley, Virginia a few months before 9-11 and then went in there and shot down that Flight 93 over Pennsylvania.
	Says he's talked to the pilot.
	And his info checks out.
	I've been researching what he's been doing for years.
	Before we go back to our guests and four final calls from Scott and June and Warren and Greg, I want to go to you quick, too, because I've got a bunch of news I need to get to.
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	Colonel, before we take these four final calls...
	Go over that a little bit slower for folks.
	That's a big deal.
	You've talked to the pilot, a friend of yours, who shot down Flight 93 that was going for the Capitol or the White House, and go over that for folks.
	Okay, quick rundown.
	They were out of Hector Field, Fargo, North Dakota.
	It's the 119th Fighter Group.
	And they're called the Happy Hooligans.
	They're probably the best interceptors that we have in the country.
	They were moved to Langley Air Force Base from Hector Field down to Southern Virginia.
	And when the klaxon horn went off at 9.35, those three pilots all put down their coffee and shot into their aircraft and took off.
	They didn't know where they were going initially, but by 10.00 hours,
	They had rendezvoused over southern Pennsylvania.
	That's about 250 miles in just a matter of minutes.
	And engaged 93 with two Sidewinder missiles.
	And they accomplished their objective.
	Now, Hector Field, I used to fly out of Hector Field some time ago.
	I know most of those pilots.
	I could name names.
	I know the...
	The National Guard Adjutant General.
	And they were decorated about a year later, and I have the full write-up of that story in my book.
	Yeah, and it's just ignored by the media.
	I have that article, too.
	And, you know, later, well, okay, it was a missile, and, well, there wasn't the, you know, let's roll.
	Just all made-up theater for the public, and we buy it like a bunch of saps.
	That is correct.
	It's incredible.
	Let's go ahead and talk to Scott in Florida.
	Scott, go ahead.
	Hi, how are you doing?
	Fine.
	Scott?
	Early in the show, you mentioned that both Cheney and Wolfowitz might be in some trouble.
	Hi.
	I was wondering if they've been serving the real rulers of the world, the 13 families or whoever they are, and been dutifully pushing the
	Yeah, obviously they're just minion administrator policy wonk puppets, so you're saying... If they've been doing a good job for them, why are they in danger versus, say, Powell or Rice or Bush, or are they all in danger?
	Or David Rockefeller.
	Right.
	Cheney is closest to the act of action.
	He was probably most involved...
	In all of the details of September 11th.
	And he'll be one of the first to fall.
	So I predict... Because he knows?
	I predict that Cheney will be out of here inside well prior to the election.
	Because he knows exactly what happened?
	Yes, he knows exactly what happened.
	And they have to eliminate all those people.
	Several, yes.
	Now...
	Weren't they served as a warning to anybody who would serve them in the future?
	Perhaps, but these guys can only understand one ingredient, and that is force.
	And that force has to emanate from the military.
	And the military force in the persona of military tribunals will take over.
	And Cheney, as I reiterate, is toast.
	But they're the ones creating the tribunals.
	Now, I will say this.
	I will say this.
	General Rick Baucus, over a year ago, Rhode Island native, the head of Gitmo, Guantanamo Bay, he resigned and said, I'm not going to torture innocent people.
	Now, that hardly got any press.
	We have two-star generals quitting.
	We have a lot of people not going along with this already.
	There will be a lot more, Alex.
	Pardon me?
	There will be a lot more.
	People either resigning or retiring.
	And yet it's going to come out, and there will be military tribunals.
	Well, also, the Pentagon just came out and said that Halliburton's been stealing and is going to do a criminal investigation.
	We'll see what happens with that.
	But thanks for the call, Scott.
	June in Mass.
	June, you're on the air.
	Go ahead.
	Hi.
	I hope you're not going to be offended, but, you know, I'm really suspicious of that stroke because a lot of us don't trust the pharmaceutical companies or the medical business.
	Well, I'm really confused what you're talking about.
	Well, the colonel had a stroke.
	So, I mean, is he... I mean, it wasn't like anything caused... Oh, yeah, I mean, while he was busy exposing all this, he had a stroke.
	I mean, you know, strokes happen because of stress.
	You want to comment, Colonel?
	Well, things happen, June.
	And with me, it was a stroke.
	Right carotid artery blocked entirely, and I was out.
	I'm now fully recovered, and I'm very active.
	In fact, my wife says I'm hyperactive.
	Well, many medications can cause a stroke, so I hope you'll look into, you know, maybe call Dr. McCain.
	She's a sponsor.
	Okay, June, anything on your mind concerning September 11th?
	No, but I'm just concerned about his health.
	Health is fine, June, and I appreciate your interest.
	I'm doing great.
	Don't smoke and don't eat too many fried foods.
	I probably sound like your wife.
	I don't think he smokes, so...
	Okay.
	Thank you, June.
	Let's talk to Warren in Colorado.
	Warren, go ahead.
	Oh, hi.
	Just incredible information.
	I think this is breaking news, at least for me.
	I'm probably the fourth caller familiar with aviation, and we could go into how someone could actually fly planes into a building.
	But I just wanted to call and thank you, Alex, for coming.
	Working pretty hard.
	I heard you on KOA at 3.30 when I was checking cattle.
	I look forward to the rebroadcast and purchasing some books and videos and so on.
	Yeah, I was up until 5 a.m.
	Central on KOA.
	I was on there three hours on Rick Barber's show.
	I'm going to be up tonight doing interviews.
	Hey, we don't sleep around here and fight against the New World Order.
	Okay, thanks.
	All right.
	Yeah, because if we don't win this, it's all over.
	I mean, really, this is for all the marbles.
	These people are evil.
	Thank you for the call, Warren.
	Let's talk to Greg in Alabama.
	Last caller.
	Greg, go ahead.
	Alex, God bless you.
	God bless your wife for being there behind you and making sure that you're continuing to do this for this country.
	Yeah, she's great.
	She can't even say anything enough about her, and I don't even know the woman.
	I just want to...
	I want to point out a couple of things, and I hope you don't treat me the way that people treat you when you try to bring this stuff to the forefront.
	Okay, go ahead.
	This is very, very important.
	As you can tell, I'm shaking.
	I finally get through to talk to you.
	On your videos, everything is true.
	I don't have to tell you.
	You already know.
	As soon as you see the truth in front of you, it is already evident.
	The explanations and the excuses
	That are given to you before that, they just disappear because everybody knows deep inside that there is something wrong, that there is an evil power somewhere, and through all the definitions from movies, books, people get everything so confused, and you're able to bring it all to the forefront and just lay it out.
	You mention Moloch several times, the Babylonian, the eye on the pyramid, which you mentioned several times in the video.
	You're talking about Police State 3?
	Yeah, I just watched Police State 3 for the first time after I bought six of your videos.
	Well, thank you.
	I will support you until I die, until anybody lays a finger on you.
	I will be there for you no matter what.
	What I need for your listeners to hear is every night when I listen to your radio show or when I'm sitting here at work listening to it and I'm taking all the grief from the people that I work with, I don't care.
	There's a certain knowledge that was known in the beginning of our beginning of time, which is this cycle of our system that we're in now, this last 3,000 or 10,000 years, whatever it was the beginning.
	The ancient Egyptians, which were not called the ancient Egyptians, where the pyramids, all that comes from, all that understanding that that comes from, there was a pure understanding before the Europeans came in and took over those nations.
	And then told everybody else what they were about.
	Well, I will say this.
	Yeah, the Illuminati got a lot of secret knowledge, information, suppressed it, and that's what a lot of this is about today.
	And that's why the globalist symbol is the all-seeing eye and the pyramid, because they're laughing at us, saying, we've got the secret knowledge, you profane idiots don't know anything.
	You want to comment on this, Colonel?
	Can I just finish something really quick?
	Yeah, go ahead.
	I don't mean to disrespect either of you.
	You guys are great people.
	That's okay, go ahead.
	The thing is, is that just like with everything you say, once you say it and once you hear it, you just automatically know.
	And if you need to go look into it any further and check it out and verify it for yourself, that's fine.
	There are two authors that I'm aware of right now that I know there's more, just like there's more people like you.
	One, his name is Mustafa Gadallah.
	He is a native Egyptian.
	And the other, his name is Raoun Nefer Amin.
	He is the author of the Metu Netur, which he wrote in trance.
	Connecting to the one true source.
	I know it sounds freaky.
	I just deal with facts and documents and stuff I can prove.
	Well, sir, just send me the info.
	I'll tell you what.
	Just send me the info.
	Unfortunately, I took way more calls than I was going to, and I kept our guests too long.
	I've got a few news articles here I want to hit.
	But send me some info, and maybe I'll have them on for a guest or something.
	Five more seconds, please, Alex.
	Five more seconds.
	Go ahead.
	Just...
	The devil, all that stuff can be completely understood just the way that you understand it now by going to Egypt-Tahuti.com, Egypt-Tahuti, T-E-H-U-T-I, reading the Metu Netcher.
	You don't have to follow along with the
	The names and the people and the cults and all that stuff, it's just the understanding.
	Okay, okay.
	Listen, I'll check it out.
	Thank you.
	And you can always call back.
	Colonel, I really want to appreciate you.
	I mean, I really do appreciate you.
	I want to thank you, Colonel Don DeGrand Prix, for coming on the show.
	And if folks want to get your three bucks...
	Well, it's a pleasure, Alex, and it's
	Keep up your damn good work.
	You're doing marvelously well, Alex.
	Keep it up.
	Well, absolutely.
	We'll have to have you back on the show, and God bless you.
	Thank you, sir.
	You bet.
	Take care.
	I did it again.
	Great guest.
	Ended up having him on for an hour and 48 minutes, and I didn't get to stacks of news.
	I mean, just stacks of news here.
	I mentioned it.
	I mean, I mentioned it.
	Soldiers given five bullets for Iraq war.
	That's the Herald.
	To the dark troops.
	I got stuff like that.
	A report, Slavery Alive and Well in U.S., Tallahassee, Florida, Newsday.
	Modern-day slavery is alive and well in Florida, the head of Human Rights Center said Tuesday, and it released a report on people forced to work as prostitutes, farm workers, and maids across the state.
	It's real bad in Texas, too.
	Human traffickers, that's what these open borders are about, folks.
	It's about oppression of the people.
	Human traffickers bring thousands of people into the United States each year, and Florida is believed to be one of the top three destinations, along with New York, Texas, according to the Center for the Advancement of Human Rights at Florida State University.
	Although there have been several prosecutions of human trafficking in Florida, no one knows how many people in Florida are under the control of traffickers, said Terry Coonan, the Center's Executive Director.
	I'm going to get him on.
	And then I got this article.
	Azerbaijan probes child organ trafficking.
	BBC.
	The Azerbaijan government says it is keen to track down and crack down on child traffickers who are believed to be taking children abroad and selling their organs for profit.
	And it shows a bag of ice with a baby's organs in it.
	I mean, who could kidnap a child and cut their guts out?
	I just...
	Man, you people are going to hell, and I am very happy.
	I mean, people don't believe there's a hell.
	There's got to be a hell.
	You people got to pay.
	I know there's a hell, and it's ready for you.
	Its mouth is open for you.
	National Security Minister, Naeem.
	Abzov said the authorities, yeah, the authorities, what, investigating your competition, were investigating reports that sick children were being taken abroad for medical treatment and adoption and then being used for human transplants.
	Yeah, they tell you, we're going to help you.
	A lot of the charities are involved.
	We've already confirmed this in past reports, but here it is again.
	Under the guise of adoption, children who are allegedly afflicted by grave diseases are taken out of Azerbaijan, ostensibly for treatment.
	In the course of our investigations, it's come to light that these children are used for organ transplants.
	Oh, man, I tell you.
	And it goes into the results of the investigations will be passed to the Interior Ministry.
	And it says corruption, that the government's involved.
	Of course it is.
	I mean, we are turning into hell on earth.
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	Human trafficking study looks towards remedies.
	Untold numbers of foreign workers are being held against their will in Florida and elsewhere.
	A fact that will require a new approach to combat illegal trafficking of humans in the United States.
	A study released Tuesday contends.
	So, more of the wondrous third world acculturation we're all enjoying.
	Amazing.
	A story out of Republic Online.
	And it says, Mother wants to know why child died in foster care.
	And they took her child because the school thought his child looked a little skinny and might have been abused.
	And then a few months later, it died in CPS custody.
	That's just CPS.
	You know how they are.
	Good old folks there.
	Statistically the most dangerous people around.
	I got a Homeland Security, dhs.org.
	.gov article here.
	Homeland Security says that Homeland Security launches expansion of information exchange system into major cities in all 50 states.
	It is the matrix system under the new name exchange system, information exchange system.
	So there's your NSA spying on you at the local level there for everyone out there as well.
	Bloodbath feared his Haiti opposition spurns peace plan.
	They don't want Aristide to be the leader, and, well, that's what America will be like when you've got criminals running things, just more criminals trying to take over.
	The rule of law is gone.
	You turn into Haiti or Mexico.
	NATO and the EU to step up for the terror fight.
	They said they need to invade a bunch of countries.
	Here's an article.
	Honduras orders 400,000 chip cards for weapons control.
	If you want to own a gun, you're going to have to register it and have a chip card that tracks you that you're a gun owner.
	That's out of cardtechnology.com.
	They're very proud of that.
	And half of young Americans who get sexually transmitted diseases, according to Reuters, sexually transmitted diseases are exploding.
	Thanks to the promiscuous lifestyle that's being promoted by MTV and others.
	The U.S.
	government brings the first charges against Guantanamo inmates, Reuters says, for conspiracy charges.
	I didn't think conspiracies existed.
	How can that be possible?
	Oh, only other people's conspiracies.
	And they're not going to let anybody into those trials.
	They're kangaroo courts.
	Aristide warns that if we don't send troops in to save him, that he's going to hit us with all the boat people.
	Well, don't worry.
	I mean, we need some more Thurber old folks.
	Let's take a few million Haitians, you know.
	It'll be a good deal.
	We've got to accept their culture of voodoo and blood drinking.
	Don't criticize them or you're evil.
	Putin dumps his entire government.
	This is out of Reuters.
	Russian President Vladimir Putin has sacked his government and has pledged to appoint a team to overall policy out of next month's presidential election.
	So he's fired the whole government as dictator, and he's used terror attacks as engineered as a way to do that.
	BBC reports Blunkett gets tough on terror, has introduced martial law provisions for secret arrests.
	No more liberties, no more Magna Carta.
	They're very proud of it.
	That bill in West Virginia has been rewritten where everybody has to be vaccinated.
	Now if you can get a waiver from the school, as if you're going to get one from the school, if the government will give you a waiver, you don't have to take it, which, of course, you can't get.
	So it's just as bad.
	It's horrible.
	So, no, this bill is no good that they're scheduled to try to pass today in West Virginia.
	And, well, we're almost out of time here.
	There's been a bunch of asteroid near misses.
	We covered that at the first of the show.
	And they said there's more asteroids coming in for collision or near misses.
	And that's on InfoWars.com from BBC and CNN.
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