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Big Brother.
Mainstream media.
Government cover-ups.
You want answers?
Well, so does he.
He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
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Welcome, ladies and gentlemen.
Thank you for joining us.
It is Monday, the 23rd of February, 2004.
Two days until The Passion of Christ comes out.
I'll be there on Wednesday afternoon watching it and giving you my report on Thursday.
I apologize for not being here last Thursday and Friday.
I normally do the show when I am sick.
I'm rarely sick.
I thought I had a cold last week.
It turned into the flu, 104 temperature.
Let's just say I was not a happy camper, so I could not do the show.
But I am here, totally recuperated.
In fact, there were some good side effects.
I'm off coffee.
I said, hey, I haven't had coffee in three or four days.
Why drink coffee now?
So I'm off coffee.
So I guess the only drugs I use now are occasional Tylenol.
And I lost 10 pounds while I was sick, so I'm even more handsome now.
Okay, I've never had more to talk about.
Just an absolutely gigantic, ultra-massive show.
Coming up in the next hour, folks, you're not going to want to miss this.
We have a very interesting individual coming on the show, Michael Shrimpton, a national security barrister.
He's written for the Journal of International Security Affairs.
He has briefed the United States Senate Committee on Intelligence and a lot more.
A lengthy bio.
You can just type his name in online and see a lot of the big cases he's been involved in.
He's traveled all over the Western world and given speeches and consulted on terrorism.
Guess why he's joining us on the show?
Well, last week you may have seen a story floating around that somebody inside the British government had sources that said that they could confirm that Dr. David Kelly had been killed.
We've already got all these top doctors and scientists coming forward and saying that.
We've got all the evidence and even mainstream headlines saying, is this what happened?
Well, he's got sources inside MI5, MI6, and from the information he has, they know how...
He knows how they killed him, how they killed Dr. David Kelly, and why they killed Dr. David Kelly.
And that's because they have to protect Tony Blair at all costs because Tony Blair is Europe's man to bring in the euro.
And according to the information that my guest is going to be sharing with us, the French intelligence was used to do the dirty work, which is what I've seen in the past.
An intelligence agency of a country will use its sister intelligence agency that it works with in another nation to do hits for them, and that happens vice versa.
That happened at Waco, according to the Fort Worth Star newspaper, where they used MI5-controlled special air services people out there doing some of the wet work.
So this is done over and over again where they use foreign troops, foreign individuals, to kill their own people internally because it's very dangerous to use your own intelligence people to kill fellow intelligence people like Dr. David Kelly, who was a top spy and, of course, head of Horton Down Bioweapons Lab and the head British inspector.
So, again, that's coming up the next hour.
We appreciate Mr. Shrimpton, Michael Shrimpton, coming on the show, Barrister Shrimpton.
Again, who's even given security briefings to the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence here in our own country.
He'll be joining us from England, and I want to thank the folks that helped us put this story together.
We'll be writing an article tonight and thanking them, all the great folks that have been involved in this.
And then when we get back, it is true, I made some phone calls after I got better this weekend.
It is true, in...
In Lyon County, Kentucky, it is illegal to give someone one of my videotapes.
It's illegal to give them a History Channel videotape.
It's illegal to speak out against any government policy.
It's even been in the newspaper.
And I've made the phone calls, got the faxes, got the news articles.
That's true, too.
So we'll talk about that a lot more.
Just stay with us.
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He's the T-Rex of political talk, Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
All right, my friends, a big show for you today, eight minutes into this three-hour broadcast.
Coming up in the next hour, we have Michael Shrimpton, national...
Intelligence barrister.
And so does national intelligence work for the government, national security work?
And again, he has briefed the Senate Select Committee on
So you're not going to want to miss this interview in the second hour.
Three doctors dispute how David Kelly
Kelly died.
This was, of course, out of major British newspapers a week ago.
As medical professionals and trauma orthopedic surgeon, a specialist in anesthesiology and a diagnostic radiologist, we do not think evidence given at the Hutton Inquiry has demonstrated that Dr. David Kelly committed suicide.
And then David Halpin, who we've got coming on this week, trauma and orthopedic surgeon, talks about how he was clearly murdered.
Dr. C. Stephen Frost, BCMB-CHB specialist in diagnostic radiology, Stockholm, Sweden, is also going to be coming on the show, talks about how he was clearly whacked and others.
So you do not want to miss this.
And, of course, he told colleagues that I'm going to be murdered and put in the woods for what I've said.
And a few weeks later, he was dead.
It's like Princess Diana saying, Prince Charles is going to kill me in a fake automobile accident if I don't stop going out with Dowdy.
And then what happens?
I mean, come on here!
I'm going to be murdered and put in the woods!
This is what this big spy chief was saying, and then it happens to him.
And I was talking to Mr. Shrimpton, Barrister Shrimpton today, and he said people are very mad at intelligence.
I mean, they don't like it when their own people are being killed.
So that's coming up.
I mentioned in the last segment that it indeed is true that in areas of Kentucky there is no First Amendment.
I called the judge up this weekend concerning that case we talked about last Wednesday before I fell ill on this Thursday and Friday with the dastardly flu.
And I had the caller who called into the show, and he talked about how he just gave a cop a video, and the cop later pulled him over and said this was a threat and took him to jail.
It wasn't just my video.
It was Discovery Channel, C-SPAN stuff, History Channel programs.
And the officer thought that this was a threat.
You know, mainstream television shows.
Here, watch this.
It's informative.
And I found out from the prosecutor's office that, well, they don't really want to prosecute this, but the state police have requested it.
Of course, they've got the proper federal training and all.
And they've decided to go ahead and, well, he's in court right now.
He's supposed to call in after court.
And tell us what happens if Kelly Rushing even gets out of there.
So this is America, folks.
And the judge just sat there and told them, you're guilty of giving a police officer anti-government, anti-police material.
And remember, I have the mainstream documents.
Law Enforcement Technology Magazine says if they've got to get us out of the U.N.
sticker on their car, go ahead and take them to jail.
Chances are they're a terrorist or a criminal.
And it even said in there, police chiefs, don't criticize your men and women for doing this.
They're doing the right thing.
Go ahead and find something on these people.
Major magazines say go ahead and find something on us because we don't like the U.N.? ?
I mean, the Republican Party platform in most states says get out of the U.N.
The Texas platform does.
Most people don't like the U.N.
Even liberals don't like the U.N.
in many cases.
But even everybody hated it.
And we were 1% of the population.
It's called the First Amendment.
You morons!
What is wrong with you?
And a good old boy with no criminal record.
I mean, I called all over town.
I talked to the newspaper.
I talked to his family.
I called people randomly out of the, you know, from information.
Hey, do you know this Kelly Rushing?
Oh, he's a really nice man.
Helps in the community.
Stays to himself.
It's a little bitty town.
He just gives a police officer a video.
Officers, you may want to find out about the New World Order.
Well, here, let me arrest you, and we're going to try to put you in jail for a year.
This proves we're in the Soviet Union.
I can't handle it anymore, folks.
So that's coming up to... Okay, coming up.
This show is too jam-packed.
Anti-Semitism charges causing more damage than film could.
This is by Jewish leader Daniel Lapin, who's a rabbi.
And he's saying exactly what I said last week.
That the ADL should not represent Jews and that it's a sick joke.
And that they cause division, and that all the Jews he's talking to think it's a big joke, and are friends with Christians, and he says every Christian he knows likes Jews.
I like Jews.
I've got Jewish friends.
And I'm sick of this.
I'm tired of the ADL and the rest of these people.
And you've got to read this Daily News editorial.
It's on Infowars.com by this rabbi.
I mean, it's like I wrote this article or something.
I mean, I'm totally in agreement with this guy.
And I'm not going to get into Hutton Gibson.
I've talked to Hutton Gibson many times.
He is not anti-Semitic.
He says he doesn't like Nazis.
He doesn't like Zionists.
He doesn't like the corrupt Catholic Church.
I mean, there's not a lot of things that Hutton Gibson likes, and he's the winner of Jeopardy, and he knows history, and he's a pretty smart guy, and he does think the Holocaust happened.
He just debates the numbers and says that people should be allowed to debate those numbers, and he says these interviews have been taken out of context, and so we'll see what happens.
I had MSNBC call me.
I had CNN call.
I had a bunch of other people call.
And I'm not doing interviews.
I'm not going to go on national TV and talk about Hutton Gibson.
Alexander Emmerich Jones doesn't do that to his friends.
I could care less about being on MSNBC or CNN or something like that.
I'm just not going to do it.
I mean, I thought about going on and defending Hutton.
I'm just not going to get involved in it.
I'm just not going to get involved in it.
We're good to go.
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I mean, every hour on the hour, dry heaves.
I don't know why I'm even telling you about this, but I feel like a new man.
I mean, I just feel cleansed somehow, and I feel really good.
And so I'm saying I don't know what I'll do tomorrow.
I'm kind of unpredictable right now.
House votes for ignition interlocks on every vehicle.
Now, folks, I have a stack.
This is why I'm frustrated.
It's been four or five days since I've been on the air, and it's just a giant stack.
House votes for ignition interlocks on every vehicle.
And, hmm, sounds interesting.
Do you know what that's fancy doublespeak for?
Well, what I told you they were going to do.
And, again, I hate to say it because I told you, because I told you, because I told you, but I have their official plans.
New Mexico has passed the law out of the House, it's in the Senate, to make everyone blow a breathalyzer to start your car.
Everyone guilty until proven innocent.
If it just saves one life.
Why?
And then they're going to say that this doesn't work because people have others blow, so, oh, we're going to have to retina scan you, and it'll decide if you're drunk, and this will be the new law.
Now, how do I know that?
Because I saw the federal plans four or five years ago.
I read Houston Chronicle articles three years ago.
We're good to go.
We're good to go.
And then if you're not a good globalist, they turn your car off, and they're going to have infrared cameras on all the cars by 2005, quote, as a detector if there's a child in the car when it's too hot.
But again, the federal plan is it's really a camera.
Just like I told you, OnStar is listening to you.
Now that's mainstream news hooked in with the NSA listening to you with computers.
So I'll get back into this.
I could spend an hour on that.
Remember last week we talked about the bill where if you fly any flag with the American flag, you're arrested as a terrorist.
If you criticize the government, you're arrested as a terrorist.
I mean, I read from the bill.
In Rhode Island, and they've passed law in other states.
People couldn't believe it.
We posted the Providence Journal articles and others at Infowars.com.
Here it is, right here in front of me.
And it says, Governor pulls bill on Homeland Security.
The governor, who says he is surprised by the reaction to his proposal, will introduce another anti-terrorism law this legislative session.
See, that's what they do.
Governor withdrew his Homeland Security bill yesterday after congressional scholars and the American Civil Liberties Union assailed the proposal as a dangerous assault on civil rights.
The governor said he had not read the bill, but that his staff wrote it before he made it public.
But he received a briefing.
This is not the kind of reaction I anticipated or expected.
The governor said in a brief news conference outside his office.
And so he now claims he hadn't read the bill.
And it was the 1918 sedition law, the one Savage calls for, that if you criticize the government in time of war, you're put in a forced labor camp.
And I have another bill here where we have them in Canada calling for forest labor camps.
Yes, it's really happening.
And if we don't speak up, they're going to pass this stuff.
If we do speak up, they're not going to get away with it.
And some people don't believe what this bill had in it.
So later, if I have time, I want to read some of what was in this bill.
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All right, my friends.
I'm going to try to focus here.
Your calls are coming up in this first hour.
I do want to read this editorial, at least the first page of it,
By Rabbi Daniel Lappin.
Anti-Semitism charges causing more damage than film could.
And that's true.
Nobody would have even gone to this film and thought anything about Jews.
I mean, Jesus was a Jew, folks.
That's what happened.
He was criticizing the corruption of the establishment and of the religion.
Also, I want to get back into House votes for ignition interlocks on every vehicle.
They've passed a law, it's out of the house in New Mexico, and other states are doing the same thing, it's federally funded to do all this, to make you blow a breathalyzer to start your car, training you that you're guilty until proven innocent.
It's the new Soviet model.
Do I have to explain how this is un-American?
And I want to get back into the governor of Rhode Island having to pull this bill.
I mean, I've never seen one this bad, where if you fly any flag with the American flag, you'll be put in a camp.
If you criticize the government, you'll be put in a camp.
I mean, folks, it actually said that.
And the governor said, I didn't read it.
I'm sorry I'm getting this firestorm.
So that's coming up, too.
And the Supreme Court saying, hey, we can grab you, not even charge you, drug you as long as we want to.
That's the New York Times.
The CBS article about the FBI murder, drug dealing, prostitution, running organized crime.
The John Gotties of the world work for the FBI.
And when one stops paying their cut, the FBI busts them and calls them the kingpins.
When Noriega stops paying in the cocaine money, he gets a military raid.
When Saddam stops paying in the oil money and the BCCI, he gets a raid.
That's how it works.
These are mid-level nobodies.
Bin Laden is surrounded.
Sunday Telegraph.
Washington Times.
search for Bin Laden intensifies.
U.S.
Oh, they've got him.
So we'll get back into that, too.
That's the first half inch of a four-inch stack.
Okay?
But right now...
The next ten minutes or so, part of the segment of the next segment, I want to talk to Tim Rushing, and I know his brother's trying to get in on the line, the man this happened to, Kelly Rushing, out in Lyon County, Kentucky, where giving someone a C-SPAN video is punishable by one year in prison.
The police, the state police and prosecutor, they say, yes, you're not allowed to give police mainstream videos and say, sir, this might be informative.
And I'm not joking.
I mean, you know we don't joke on this show, folks.
If we are joking, we'll tell you.
I mean, this is just, let's be honest about how Sovietized we've gotten.
And Tim is the brother of Kelly.
And Mr. Rushing, good to have you on the show.
How did your brother's...
Beginning of his trial go this morning.
Well, Alex, looks like they're going to hold it over until March the 8th.
So they're going to continue to try to stall things?
Looks that way.
So what happened when you went before the magistrate who I talked to at his home this weekend, by the way?
What happened when Kelly went before him?
Well, I talked to William G. McCaslin, the judge, this weekend.
What did he say at the little court hearing this morning?
I haven't talked to Kelly but about five minutes, and all he told me is that they was holding it over and he was trying to call in to give you the particulars.
Was he able to get through, Stephanie?
Well, okay.
Okay.
Perhaps you need to call him and make sure he's got the right number.
Kelly, if you're out there listening, I don't know if we have phone lines open, but 1-800-259-9231, Kelly.
We need to get him on.
1-800-259-9231.
I made about 20 phone calls this weekend.
I confirm this story.
I mean, this is hard to believe, Tim, that in America, giving somebody a C-SPAN video, an Alex Jones video, and the state police have told the prosecutor, we want that man behind bars for years for giving us this video.
Well, I don't think we're going to stop handing them out.
I guess we just better get our bags ready for Club Guantanamo and our toothbrushes and everything, because we're not going to stop.
Well, if they want to make a big deal out of this, they're going to get in deep trouble.
There's a lot of organizations that will want to take this case.
As long as your brother doesn't plea bargain, he's going to be just fine, unless they pull some good old boy behavior on him.
But I've been told the judge, the prosecutor, they don't like it, but they think supposedly, I guess, that the state police are their bosses or something.
That's what I understand.
The state police are pushing this.
Probably be my guess that the officer that watched the tape, he was probably guilty of some of the tactics that he portrayed on the film and got a little upset and thought he'd take it out on Kelly.
What type of individual would want to put somebody behind bars for years for no reason?
I mean, just because you don't like the video you got.
Well, you know their mentality.
It's us against them.
I mean, they're our overlords, our protectors.
And they know what's best for us.
The incredible thing is, they admit in the newspaper and the police admit.
I mean, there's been news articles about this, folks.
I've got them.
He gave them a video.
That's his crime.
Just mainstream video.
Yeah, there was an article coming out down there in the paper, supposedly, about this.
Well, there was already one article about your brother's arrest.
I think there was one about the tape incident, too, if I'm not mistaken.
Well, I'll tell you what.
Both of you stay there.
We've got Kelly now.
Tim, stay there.
We'll be back.
Stay with us.
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The empire's on the run.
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He's the T-Rex of political talk, Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
Waging war on corruption, crashing the lies and disinformation.
Coming up, Michael Shrimpton, national security lawyer, barrister in England.
Written for the Journal of International Security Affairs, briefed the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence here in our own country, bringing forward the evidence from his inside sources of who really killed Dr. David Kelly.
Believe me, you're not going to want to miss this interview.
We're going to finish up with our guest here in just a few minutes with the First Amendment here in America, the state of it, and with the incredibly brainwashed, zombified state police and other
We're good to go.
Who gave a video to a state police officer, and I have the state police officer's own police report.
He says that he was given this video, and he says that it was threatening, and Mr. Jones
We're good to go.
Because he wrote a letter to the San Francisco Police Department saying, you guys are violating the law, handing out these marriage certificates.
That's all he said.
And they came out and said, you know, you're a gun writer.
You're not planning to use some guns, are you?
See, it's all these secret police need to talk to you because you might do something, but the border stays wide open.
Going back here for a few minutes to Kelly Rushing.
Kelly, what happened to you, thought criminal that you are, when you went in now to the court this morning before Judge William G. McCaslin for your crime, as he said, of giving someone an anti-government videotape?
Well, that was Bill McCaslin.
But Bill G. McCaslin, what happened was not a whole lot.
I think
They're discontinuing it until March the 8th because the prosecuting attorney hasn't seen the arrest tape yet, from my understanding.
Now, through discovery, before that tape disappears and the cop claims that you were, you know...
Yeah, yeah.
Right.
I did give a couple of the tapes to the prosecuting attorney, and he called me over and said that he enjoyed the tapes and told me that they wouldn't get his gun unless they prodded out of his cold, dead hand.
Well, see, this is the point, and I've gotten the same thing from the city and the county.
They don't want to go after you, but the state police are filing a complaint.
Right.
So he enjoyed the videos, but he's still going to prosecute you.
Yeah, well.
But what did you say to him?
Well, I just basically said, well, we see eye to eye about the gun issue.
Now, he might have been trying to get you to say something like, yeah, I'll never get mine.
Oh, that's a threat!
That's a threat!
SWAT team, I wouldn't even talk to these people.
Yeah.
Now, did they say they're going to drop this, or they're just going to hear it later?
No, they're going to review the arrest tape to see what kind of approach they're going to take.
The policeman said that there's some things that I said on the arrest tape that proves his point.
Yeah, I love this.
He arrests you for giving him a video and then tries to claim that you threatened him in the police car.
That's like Carl Klang, by the way.
They finally released him after two and a half months.
The judge said, I don't know why you were held this long.
I apologize.
I have the Associated Press article.
But, yeah, oh, no, the big charges came, which they, by the way, dropped, once he was in the jail cell.
See, they arrest you so you can commit the crimes in the jail cell or in the squad car.
I love this new Soviet system.
Yeah.
I know that after he told me to get out of the truck, and that's all he said when he come to my window, and the second thing he said was turn around.
Yeah, I understand.
You had a discussion with him, and you said that you said, well, I haven't threatened you.
I mean, I think a man will want to know what's going on in the world for his family.
So now the word family's a threat, see?
I mean, that's what we all say.
We're trying to protect our children, protect this country, our children's future.
Well, I'll just threaten everybody's children, because I said the word children.
Now, Jerry, you will convict that man.
You will convict Kelly Rushing, because he said the word family.
I'm sorry, go ahead.
Alex, Kelly's such a threat to that officer, then why did that officer allow Kelly to leave with his firearm?
Oh, that's right.
Kelly had a firearm in the vehicle, and then when he left jail, they gave it back to him.
That's right.
No, they never took it out of the vehicle.
When they impounded the vehicle, they didn't take it out of the vehicle.
The lazy possums may not have looked.
No, he did.
The funny thing is, he had Kelly remove it from the glove compartment, and he looked at it and put it back in the glove compartment.
Well, that just means that people still believe in the Second Amendment and aren't completely brainwashed.
No, he didn't have me remove it.
He opened the glove box, and I was sitting in the car and could see him opening the glove box, and at that time I told him it was legal.
And he closed it back up.
So basically it's gotten to the point where the prosecutor and the judge know that they can't get you on an Alex Jones and a C-SPAN video.
So they're going to try to find something on the tape, which you didn't do, and so you just show that tape to the jury.
Yeah, I think they're starting to backstep now.
Well, listen, you keep me abreast of this.
You do not plea bargain.
And if they try something, we'll put the phone numbers out.
We'll try to get folks there for court watchers.
You need support there, buddy.
Yeah, yeah, I know.
Because anybody that would try to charge someone... So you've been officially charged now with terrorist threats.
Yeah, yeah, I...
I know that when I first went to court there, and I've been driving around with a sign in my back window, which is Isaiah 520, which says, Woe unto those that perceive evil for good and good for evil, light for darkness, darkness for light, bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter.
And then it says after that, Woe unto those that are wise in the sight of their own eyes.
So that may shook them up a little bit.
Well, they probably, according to FEMA, that's more terrorism.
Don't give the cops any Bible verses, buddy.
Whoa!
I mean, look at how much trouble the passion's in.
My goodness, we've got to watch people like you.
Well, listen, keep me abreast of the situation.
So they didn't drop it.
Did your lawyer move for a motion to dismiss?
He took me in a personal room there and told me that he thinks that we're going to,
Get it dismissed to where there's no charges.
But he didn't say you've just got a plea bargain, bud.
No, they haven't tried the plea bargain yet.
Well, don't unpack your bag, Kelly, because Club Guantanamo is waiting for us.
Yeah.
Now, we're actually talking to the radical criminal right now, and of course I'm evil myself, but he's almost as evil, Tim Rushing.
Now, you made these videos.
Exactly what was on the videos your brother gave this officer?
Well, of course he gave him a 911 tape, and then there was a...
There was a speech that Ron Paul gave on one.
Oh, how evil.
Hold on, hold on.
Maybe the congressman should be arrested.
I mean, in Rhode Island he would be if this law had passed.
Now, tell me specifically what Ron Paul's speech.
It was the one where he was talking about the Federal Reserve and the neocons that have hijacked the GOP.
Sir, sir, you're saying you've got that tape?
I never got that tape.
Yeah, I've got that.
Tim, promise me you'll mail me your best copy of that.
I'll get you the best copy, Alex.
I'll send you five free videos of yours.
I got all your videos.
I'll send you some more.
Promise me you will.
I'll get it in the mail today to you.
And write neocon on there for me.
I'll do it.
Now, I'm starting to understand.
You put the congressman, the Vietnam veteran, the most conservative member of Congress on there, talking about the neocons.
Boy, this is really evil.
That was on there.
Fortress America.
Fortress America, which is the thing they did on the tech channel about the cameras going up everywhere and about how we're losing our civil liberties because of this war on terrorism.
Very radical to put a mainstream news piece on there.
Conspiracies.
There were some conspiracy theory episodes on there about the New World Order and Big Brother, I think, that runs on the tech channel also.
And that's basically it.
Boy, I tell you.
I tell you, this officer's doing his job.
I'm glad he's out there, Kelly, picking people like you up instead of real criminals.
Yeah, we feel well protected here in Kentucky, Alex.
You know, I talk to locals, and I call other members of your family, and I talk to the newspaper and other people, and supposedly your state police are pretty rampant around there.
If you look at them wrong, they're going to go ahead and take you on down.
That's a big affirmative.
Yeah.
So I guess they're kind of God around there.
Do they set up shoe sign stations where you've got to all park your cars and lick their boots until they're real shiny?
That's the next step, Alex.
Let's don't give no ideas either.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, gentlemen, you've got my home phone number.
We appreciate all you do, Alex.
Stay in touch.
And, Tim, you told me you're going to keep giving the videos out, right?
Most definitely.
I've got the VCR working overtime now.
Kelly, what you saw in 9-11 actually happened to you, didn't it?
Yeah.
Yeah, it sure did.
All right, thanks for the call, guys.
We appreciate it, Alex.
I'm about to go to Andy and Eric and Mildred and Ray and Bill before our big guest comes on.
You bet.
And just briefly, in my film, 9-11, The Road to Tyranny, about five minutes of the two-hour, two-and-a-half-hour film, there's a woman at a checkpoint.
And they say, we want to search your car.
And she says no.
So they jerk her out of the car and then say she assaulted him, which she didn't.
Which she was later found not guilty of.
And then they go, oh my gosh, they found a pocket constitution.
They found some material about the income tax.
This may be illegal.
Why, she's got videos in here.
Is this stuff legal?
I don't know if this is legal.
So it's not just FEMA videos and FEMA training manuals and ADL training manuals where they say, if you're a Christian, you're a terrorist.
I mean, it's not just their manuals.
We got them out on the road, folks, thinking this.
Imagine a cop going out to their mailbox and pulling out Law Enforcement Technology magazine and opening it up, and it says, if they've got an anti-UN sticker on their car, go ahead and arrest them.
I mean, how would a cop not start laughing
Oh, they just read it and go, all right, well, it's in a magazine.
I better arrest anybody that has an anti-UN bumper.
What is wrong with you people?
How stupid are you?
You really shouldn't move to Russia.
This state trooper Dodd is just, he really should move to Russia.
And luckily, Mr. Dodd, everything's recorded here, so you can't tell any lies about us.
When I call up people in Kentucky, I had a recorder running, too.
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These are great videos.
They're waking people up.
And at least according to Trooper Dodd and the state police of Kentucky, these videos are illegal.
And Ron Paul speaking in Congress is illegal.
Well, we say it's still legal.
We say it's still America.
It's not Russia yet.
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And so get the videos that people think are illegal.
Let's go ahead and talk to Andy in Texas.
Andy, thanks for holding.
Go ahead.
Hi, Alex.
I called in about ten days ago and spoke to you about the Hurricane Andrew cover-up.
Yes.
And when I told you about K.T.
Frankovich, the woman who wrote the book about the cover-up, you offered to have her on the show.
Yes.
And I spoke to her, and she really wants to come on.
Okay, well, just send me an email at tips at infowars.com about it.
Okay, and she said that she had sent in an email and wasn't getting a response, and I have her home phone if you'd like that.
Okay, let me put you on hold, and we'll do that.
Anything else on your mind, Andy?
What do you think about the new Terry Nichols trial?
Are you encouraged by that, or...?
These Oklahoma City trials are total charades, but, yeah, they're having to have new trials because it came out the FBI covered up all this evidence.
What do you think about it?
Well, I mean, I'm hoping for the best because I think that they're having the new trial because of the final report by the Oklahoma Bombing Investigation Committee.
That the government did it, but that obviously won't come out.
But, yes, they're having to have a new trial.
I think it's all very encouraging.
We're exposing them.
We're exposing their whitewash commissions.
Yes, so... Hey, what do you think about breathalyzers having to blow to start your car?
Everyone!
Well, I hadn't heard about that.
Obviously, any type of mass regulation like that is very scary.
And all over the country, it was first, oh, just the football players and band members.
Now, this weekend, right after I read the article about everybody's going to have to breathalyzer, I hear in San Marcos, all the children are going to have to drug test on a monthly basis.
The government, the federal government's involved.
I mean, look, it's everywhere.
It's just, folks, that's not freedom.
Cameras in school bathrooms isn't freedom.
But yes, I want to get into that hurricane situation.
That is interesting.
Nice little martial law example.
Yeah, the book is called Where Heavens Meet.
Hey, what do you think of the situation with the governor in Rhode Island saying, I didn't read the martial law, Bill.
I'm sorry.
I'm going to change the law.
Yeah, very interesting.
Where did you say that you read this?
That's out of the Providence Journal.
Where can I go to read this?
It's on Infowars.com and...
It's on prisonplanet.com, too.
Oh, okay.
It says, Governor pulls bill on Homeland Security.
Tarsierian, if I'm pronouncing that right.
Pulls bill on Homeland Security.
The governor, who says he's surprised by the reaction to his proposal, will introduce another anti-terrorism law this legislative season.
Thanks for the call, Andy.
Okay, Eric and Mildred and Ray and Bill and others, you're up next.
And we do have our big guest coming up, too.
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Your questions, your comments, let's get them out there and then move on to the next caller.
Let's talk to Eric in Connecticut.
Eric, go ahead.
Hi, Alex.
Thanks for taking my call, and I'm glad you're feeling better.
You bet.
Thank you.
I just wanted to remind your listeners that this weekend, this Saturday, at the Castle Cinema up in Providence.
I think it's from 2 p.m.
to 6 p.m.
There will be a showing of one of your videos, Police State Free Total Enslavement.
That's right.
They're going to be showing that.
There's information at the 1320 website.
And I have reservations for me and a buddy to see that.
Well, I appreciate you going.
Yeah, and I'll give you a report when I'm done and when we've seen it.
And I'm looking forward to it and seeing fellow patriots up there.
And I have not seen that particular video, and I'm looking forward to seeing it.
And one other thing, Alex.
It's the longest video, so... Okay, did you know that Mr. Sean Hannity, you know when he went syndicated?
9-11.
Well, September 10, 2001.
And I heard a rumor that basically they had a big roundtable before that day, Roger Ailes and all the neocons, and they were basically tipped off, and they were told, you tell the truth, your careers are toast, you go along with the line, you're going to make millions.
Yeah, it's pretty obvious what they did, and it's a staged deal.
It's a CIA operation.
We know that.
They're giving their orders, what to do, what to say, how to operate.
And Clear Channel owns the voting machines in many areas, and they run the candidates, and they... Everything!
They own the media, they own the voting machines, they own the candidates.
Yep, and they even own the local paper.
I tried to get my local paper to talk about World Trade Center 7.
And one of the editors says, oh, I'm just not interested in it.
I said, you're not interested in one of the biggest stories of the last hundred years?
Yeah, the owner says we blew it up on national TV, and they can just go, okay, you blew it up.
Great, thanks a lot.
Yep.
Thanks for the call, Eric.
Hey, Alex.
Hey, good to hear from you.
Let's talk to Mildred in Colorado.
Mildred, go ahead.
Hi, Alex.
I was wondering what your definition of Zionist is.
I've been listening since the first of your show, and you were speaking then of being...
Of not being anti-Semitic.
That's right, I'm not against... But you spoke of someone who was anti-Zionist and you seemed to agree with them, so I just needed to know your definition of Zionist.
Well, I'm against, say, Mecha, who says that they hate white people and blacks.
What's Mecha?
Ma'am, just let me answer your question, okay?
I'm against Mecha because they say they don't like certain races and that they're the best.
Okay, I'm against the Ku Klux Klan because they say that about whites.
And Zionists, you know, the real King Daddy, a real Zionist, you know, thinks that they're the best and everybody else is basically dog meat.
And so that's who I'm talking about.
And most Jews are not Zionists.
So I'm against racist Jews.
I'm against racist blacks.
I'm against racist Germans.
And so that's what I said.
You don't think Zionism means that you support Israel?
No, no, that's not what it means.
If you really look at what the real Zionism is, it's a lot more than that.
It means domination by Israel of a certain group of people.
I can have a bunch of rabbis up to tell you that if you'd like me to.
I would like for you to.
Okay, well you better research what the Zionists say.
I mean, they don't have a very good view of people who aren't Jewish.
It's pretty racist stuff.
Well, thank you.
Hey, I appreciate your call, Mildred.
And maybe we should have a debate about this.
What I was talking about was this article, Antisemitism Charges Causing More Damage Than Film Could.
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And Daniel Lapin, I totally agree with him.
I'm going to read this later.
This is good stuff about what he has to say about it.
I mean, no one would have thought anti-Semitism until the ADL injected this into it, and now it probably will cause some damage.
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All right, my friends, we're now into the second hour of this global transmission against tyranny and defense of liberty.
Coming up later in the show, they're saying they're about to capture bin Laden, this time out of the mainstream news network.
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You see, oh yes, you'd read the bill.
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Now that we have, you've had to withdraw it.
More on that coming up.
Very serious issue.
Also, Supreme Court upholds judges' right to compel medication.
So now we have judges giving other judges police powers.
You've got to love it.
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CBS News, years of FBI agent crimes detailed.
That's coming up later in the broadcast, and I'll also get into some of...
Well, my comments on Hutton Gibson's supposed comments concerning some interesting issues.
And I do have some comments on this, so that's coming up later as well.
Before we go to our first guest, who I'm honored to have, well, our guest for this hour, I wanted to just remind you that Dr. David Kelly...
Was the head of the Level 4 Porting Down Bio-Weapons Lab in Wilshire, England.
And he was then the head British weapons inspector who'd been pro-war.
He then came back and leaked information that, look, I'm a hawk for this war, but I'm not going to lie, Saddam doesn't have weapons of mass destruction.
And Tony Blair misused my assessment.
Well, suddenly he wound up dead.
He told British and U.S.
colleagues that I'm going to be murdered and found dead in the woods if I don't shut up.
This is now mainstream news.
Three top doctors have gone public, have looked at the autopsy results and say he clearly did not commit suicide.
And we have that posted at Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.
So a lot of people are starting to go public on this.
There were rumors of this last week that somebody who'd been inside the British government had sources that said they could confirm that Dr. David Kelly had been killed.
But the folks that got that story, I guess, didn't take time out to go ahead and get in contact with the individual who was bringing forward this information himself.
We've done that.
He's coming up here in just a few minutes, and we're so honored to have him with us here on the show.
He's Michael Shrimpton, and Michael Shrimpton has a long bio.
I did some research on him over the weekend.
Michael Shrimpton, of course, is a national security lawyer.
That is Barrister in Government Matters.
He's written for the Journal of International Security Affairs.
He has given advice and briefed the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence.
That's the U.S.
Senate.
He's given speeches and consulted all over Western Europe and the United States.
And, you know, of course, he's been an invited guest of the State Department.
So he's a mainstream guy, and I was very impressed talking to him.
We're about to break for a quick three-minute break.
Come back and join a bunch of stations that carry news during this segment.
And I'll briefly recap who our guest is, and we'll go to him.
Michael Scrimpton is on the line with us.
And again, we're going to break and come back.
And he has some bombshell information for you from his sources inside MI5 and MI6.
Again, he's a national security lawyer, that is barrister, who has advised the United States Senate Intelligence Committee.
So, you want to have your tape recorders going, want to call your friends and family and tell them to tune into this show.
And...
One of our great writers, Simon, is going to have an article written for us by this evening that will be posted on the websites as well.
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And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
We're going to have an article this evening on the websites.
It'll appear first on prisonplanet.com.
And I want to thank Simon...
And I want to thank Rowena and I want to thank Paul Watson and all the folks that have been working on this story and for getting us this guest.
And again, he's Michael Shrimpton and National Security Lawyer or Barrister.
And he's written for major anti-terrorism journals.
He has given his expert advice to the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence for the U.S.
Senate.
And the bio goes on and on.
He's also been involved in a lot of prominent high-profile cases in England.
I came across that in my research on him.
And he's a really nice fellow.
During the break, I was talking to him.
I said, you know, I hope you don't end up in the woods like Dr. David Kelly.
And he said, well, no, by going public, you protect yourself.
And that's the truth.
Just for folks...
To do.
Around the world who aren't very familiar with Dr. David Kelly, hard to believe people aren't, can you recap who he was, what happened to him, and then from your sources, you even know down to the specifics of how they killed him, and from your sources, who was behind the killing.
Can you just go through it for us?
Yes, David Kelly was probably the most respected microbiologist in the United Kingdom, certainly one who specialised in weapons of mass destruction.
He was the head of our main WMD laboratory at Porton Down in Wiltshire.
He was very involved in the dismantling, verification of the dismantling of the Soviet WMD programmes after the end of the Cold War.
He spent some time inside the bad old USSR.
He was the senior British inspector on UNSCOM, the UN mission inside Iraq.
He spent some considerable time in Baghdad.
He was working very closely with our overseas intelligence service, MI6, or the Secret Intelligence Service, and he was a major high-value British intelligence asset.
He was a good man.
Decorated, awarded the CMG, Commander of St Michael and St George, highly regarded, and well liked too within the British intelligence community, and also respected in the United States.
And then suddenly Tony Blair smearing him in the press, and he ends up dead, and the witnesses, according to the London Times and their publications, saw four men in black uniforms standing around him.
They run off, and oh, it's a suicide.
Go over the whole controversy of, I mean, Dr. David Kelly was a hawk for the war, but he wasn't going to put out false intelligence.
Go through that for folks that missed out on it.
David Kelly briefed in a British BBC journalist called Andrew Gilligan and also spoke to another journalist off of the BBC Television's Newsnight programme.
Well, yes.
And he briefed in both journalists along the lines that the case for the WMD case for war with Iraq had been exaggerated.
There's a lot of dispute about exactly what was said and what wasn't said.
The BBC Today programme, which is the leading radio current affairs programme, led with a story from Andrew Gilligan, which didn't name David Kelly as Andrew's source.
Now, we know that David Kelly was, and my own intelligence sources confirmed that before the BBC itself confirmed it on Sunday, the 20th of July.
David Kelly was outed in the media.
Big dispute as to who authorised his name to be given to the media.
And he was asked to appear before a committee in the House of Commons.
There was a lot of controversy about what the government had been told, how truthful a dossier that they had prepared on Iraqi weapons of mass destruction was.
And shortly after he gave evidence to the House of Commons, he was found dead on Friday 18th of July of last year.
He was found dead.
There is a dispute about exactly where he was found.
According to the official version of events, he was found dead in a copse or a wood at a place called Harrowdown Hill between the village where he lived and the River Thames.
But the forensic tents, it's noticeable, Alex, that the forensic tents that were set up by the local police force, Thames Valley Police, were actually set up in the field.
Why you would have someone killed in the woods and have the police tents over the scene of the crime set up in the field, no one has yet been able to explain to my satisfaction.
Now, the government were blamed for causing the death, but the way the government were criticised was this.
That they had caused his name to be leaked to the media, that had put him under intolerable pressure, and he had allegedly committed suicide.
The initial media reports all went with suicide, and the mainstream media in the UK is still reporting it as a suicide.
The government responded very quickly and brought in a law lord, Lord Hutton, who had previously been Lord Chief Justice of Northern Ireland, and the Hutton Inquiry has very recently reported, Lord Hutton
We're good to go.
The Hutton report, I'm sorry to say, is widely seen as a whitewash, and it's been rubbished.
A very senior British intelligence officer recently retired, a lieutenant colonel, Crispin Black, who was on the defence intelligence staff until 2002, basically described the report as a laughing stock, and I respectfully agree.
Yeah, I've seen major polls where over two-thirds of the British people believe it's complete fraud.
I mean, obviously, Tony Blair hires one of his cronies to come in and say, oh, you didn't do anything wrong.
And then even that's a whitewash of a larger whitewash, because obviously, according to the medical reports, the coroner's report, the doctors that have looked at it,
The suicide verdict, that's a fraud itself.
And let's go into your sources and what really happened to Dr. David Kelly.
Absolutely.
I wouldn't be allowed to say that Tony Blair had hired a judge.
You understand that in England we don't hire judges.
The judge is on the state payroll anyway, and I wouldn't want to be thought of as suggesting that anybody had put a little extra funds Lord Hutton's way.
I'm quite sure Lord Hutton took no extra payment.
Well, what I'm saying is that obviously Hutton's been involved in what's been called whitewashes in the past.
The report, I'm sorry to say, with respect to Lord Hutton, the report is a complete whitewash.
Well, I mean, you have a government institution whitewashing for another government institution.
Well, exactly.
And this is the problem with appointing senior judges to hold inquiries.
And there's been a lot of adverse comment in England.
The senior judge is, by definition, part of the establishment.
It's very difficult.
It's very difficult for the judge, of course, because if he whitewashes the government, everybody says, well, it is a whitewash.
If he blames the government, well, it's asking too much of a senior judge to go around blaming the government.
It's not what senior judges do.
What do you expect?
I mean, here we have it where Janet Reno hires somebody to investigate Waco.
I mean, she literally appoints the investigator.
We have Bush controlling the 9-11 panel.
I mean, it's ridiculous.
But getting into the specifics of Dr. David Kelly's clear murder, let's go over that.
Well, absolutely.
Now, on Saturday, 19th of July, David was murdered on the 17th.
On Saturday, the 19th, within 48 hours of the murder,
I was contacted by a British intelligence officer who had told me he'd been murdered.
That didn't take me by surprise.
I was suspicious of the suicide theory from the word go.
Now, that source told me he'd done some digging and discovered that, he didn't name names, but he discovered that it had been known about in Whitehall prior to the 17th of July that David Kelly was going to be taken down.
Now, normally with a suicide, Alex, you appreciate we don't like people knowing in advance.
If people know in advance of the death, that normally points away from suicide.
Yes.
I have.
Exactly.
Now, a lot of work has been done since the murder, and there's been particularly a great deal of medical research.
Now, it's absolutely clear that David was murdered.
The suicide theory just doesn't hold water at all.
The official version of events is that he took some coproxamol tablets.
Now, coproxamol is available in England only by prescription.
There is a problem with that because there is no evidence that David Kelly was ever prescribed coproxamol.
Now, coproxamol, I think, is available in the United States.
It's a combination of dextropropylene and paracetamol in a ratio of 1 to 10.
It's not a very powerful painkiller.
And the level of coproxamol in the bloodstream, according to the official toxicology report, was about one-third, i.e.
not enough to kill him.
Now, 29 tablets were allegedly missing, or were missing, from a packet of coproxamol found by the body.
The problem is that there is only one-fifth of a tablet in the stomach, and there's no evidence of substantial vomiting.
There is a little bit of vomit found on the body, but not much, and there's no analysis done of the material.
The stomach contents do not support the suggestion that he ingested 29 carboxymol tablets.
Interestingly, the initial media reports, and when we look at staged suicides or political assassinations, I find it very useful to concentrate on the early media reports, because if there is a cover-up, usually the cover-up kicks in after 12, 24, 36 hours.
The first media reports are very often the most accurate.
Particularly if they're coming from local news organisations.
And the early media reports made no mention of a bottle of water.
The theory is, Alex, that he took these coproximal tablets, having set out on a walk in the course of which he was going to commit suicide, and took with him a bottle of water to swallow the tablets.
Problem, no mention in early media reports of any bottle of water.
That detail was only added in after...
A group of concerned people and England professionals called the Kelly Group had made the point, and it was already out into the open.
Now, the suicide version of it can't be right.
He was found with one wrist slashed and the ulnar artery, which is the artery near... Tell you what, we've got a break.
We're going to come back and go over the circumstantial evidence and then your sources inside intelligence that say, hey, we got the word he was about to be killed, and then who killed him?
We'll talk about that, too.
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And he's a national security barrister in England.
He has given testimony and advice to the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence for the U.S.
Senate.
And he's obviously very knowledgeable about intelligence and the activities of intelligence agencies.
He has a lot of sources in MI5 and MI6.
You just heard him talk about one source inside British intelligence that said they got word that Kelly was about to be killed by the government a week or so before he actually died.
I want to go back into that in more detail coming up here in a few minutes, but...
Mr. Shrimpton was then going over the material evidence of the murder, and you'd gotten to the point of the slitting of the wrist.
Yeah, he clearly didn't slit his own wrist.
The idea that he exsanguinated, that he died from hemorrhaging, he bled out from a cut to one wrist only to the ulnar artery is just a nonsense, Alex.
Firstly, the artery that was cut was the ulnar artery, which is more difficult to reach.
It's on the little finger side of the hand.
It's deeper than the radial artery.
Why go for an artery deep in the wrist when you can slit an artery much closer to the surface of the skin?
That's the first problem.
Second problem, according to the autopsy report, he severed or transected the artery.
But once you transect an artery, we have something called vasoconstriction.
The artery retracts, and that promotes clotting.
It's very difficult to bleed out if you sever one artery only.
And I would second that with David Halpin, a doctor, a trauma and orthopedic surgeon, as well as Stephen Frost, specialist in diagnostics.
I mean, there's a whole bunch of top-level doctors saying this is a complete fraud.
Exactly.
One doctor went around promoting the official version of events and attacked these doctors in the Guardian newspaper in England and talked about slashing wrists.
Well, David Kelly on the official version of events didn't slash his wrists, plural.
He slashed one wrist only.
It's highly unusual.
Firstly, wrist slashing is not an effective method of committing suicide.
One of the reasons people do it in a bath of hot water is because they need to keep the temperature high.
Yeah.
If you're out in the open, if you're not keeping the temperature high, the wrists, the arteries will not stay dilated.
It is very difficult indeed to bleed out in the open, even if you slit both wrists.
Slitting one wrist only, much less blood loss.
And we have conflicting accounts of the amount of blood found by the body.
The most reliable eyewitnesses, in my judgment, are probably the paramedics who found him.
And
They talk about comparatively little blood loss.
There is no solid evidence that a lot of blood had left the body.
There were no adequate measurements of the amount of blood left in the major vessels in the heart and so on.
Now, talking to you earlier today, it's pretty clear that they drug him up, then as he's dying, slid his wrist to create this scene.
From your sources inside the intelligence community, what really happened to Dr. David Kelley?
Well, in my judgment, based on conversations with sources and with medical experts, and a great deal of work has been done over this since the murder, he was probably murdered by a combination of an injection, not through tablets, but an intravenous injection of dextropropoxythine and paracetamol, the constituents of coproxamol, and a muscle relaxant called succinylcholine.
Now, succinylcholine is a favorite method of assassinating people.
It's used by intelligence agencies, particularly the French DGSE.
Succinylcholine, although it's used therapeutically for treating, facilitating intubation and so on, can be lethal.
And in combination with the constrictions of coproxamol, 30 milligrams would probably have been a lethal dose.
The problem for someone investigating an assassination by succinylcholine is that it metabolizes even after death.
And you only pick up the metabolites.
In other words, it's one of those drugs that leaves no trace unless you have a very expert pathologist who really knows what he or she is doing.
Now, all you can find is what it metabolizes into.
You cannot find the original chemical.
Exactly.
So you have to look for the enzymes it metabolizes into.
You won't find any trace of the original drug.
Well, it's like with AIDS.
You look for the antibodies because you can't find the virus.
Well, effectively, yes.
And it's fairly clear that the slash to the wrist was done to disguise the puncture wound.
There's no puncture wound, but of course the slash to the wrist would disguise it.
Now, the palmar face, or the palmar face of the wrist, effectively the inside face of the wrist, is a very popular method.
You know, an etiologist would use it to inject.
It's quite realistic to suppose that David Kelly was injected in the wrist with the muscle relaxant and the dextropropoxifene.
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Folks, this is very, very important.
Because Tony Blair is a minion of the globalists.
He's the tool who's trying to destroy British national sovereignty.
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It's clear that if Tony Blair was to have been exposed, that would certainly hurt those in Europe that want to get rid of British sovereignty.
And talking to Michael Shrimpton, our guest, our intelligence expert, who has his sources over there in England, talking to you earlier before the show, you talked about your sources, the evidence you have that...
It looks like that it was elements of British intelligence or of the government using French intelligence to go and do their dirty work, which, by the way, is a standard operation.
If intelligence agencies are getting rid of some of their own people, they will generally use a sister agency in a sister country.
I know this is very delicate, Michael, but can you go over what you talked to me off-air about?
Yes, Alex.
Firstly, I should make it clear, I have absolutely no indication that anybody in either of the British intelligence agencies, MI5, the security service, or MI6, the secret intelligence service, being involved.
On the contrary, my sources are telling me that both services are extremely unhappy.
Now, the indications are, and you understand I'm being cautious on air, but
There are indications pointing towards an involvement by the French external intelligence agency, the DGSE, or Direction Générale de la Sécurité Extérieure.
But obviously they've got a liaison within the government, the British government.
They've got to have someone authorizing this.
Are you saying it's just a rogue element wanting to get rid of somebody who could mess up the EU?
No.
Again, I've got to be obviously careful on air, but the indications are that the tasking for the assassination came from within the UK.
But I can't name any individual official or minister.
The tasking was generated in the UK, went to Paris, was then okayed in Paris, and on the information available to me, the operational agency for the assassination was DGSE.
Now, there are also indications, and I'm, again, obviously Alex, you appreciate I'm expressing myself with caution here,
There are indications that DGSE, in order to false flag the assassination should their team be discovered, used Iraqi intelligence assets from the Iraqi Mukhabarat Agency that were available in Damascus after the fall of Baghdad.
And I have one source suggesting that an Iraqi team...
An ex-Mukhabarat team recruited in Damascus with the assistance of the Syrian intelligence operation, also the Mukhabarat, were flown into Corsica in the seven days prior to the assassination of David Kelly.
Now, the standard French practice when they carry out assassinations is to take their own team out, and I am very doubtful that any of the people involved directly in the assassination of David Kelly are still alive.
It would be highly unusual for the French to permit anyone involved in the assassination for them to...
Well, we've seen this in the past.
You've had the big controversy that BBC's reported on about the British intelligence using Al-Qaeda individuals to try to kill Muammar Gaddafi.
I mean, this is a classic deal.
Of course, the Iraqis were allies during the 80s, and so a lot of these guys were trained in the U.S., trained in England, trained in France, and then bringing these assets back in.
Yeah, that was a mess.
We could spend another hour on that, Alex.
Whoever authorised that operation did not know what they were doing.
That was just a total shambles.
Well, I mean, wouldn't these Iraqis know that they were doing this hit, that they were going to be in deep trouble afterwards, or were they told, you don't have a choice?
They may not have worked for French intelligence before.
Not necessarily.
If you were offered a job by French intelligence, I would turn it down.
Anybody approached by French intelligence to do a hit, I would strongly advise them to turn it down or increase their life insurance.
They were probably, I mean, assuming it was Iraqis, and I can't be positive.
There are indications pointing towards an Iraqi involvement.
I can't be positive about DGSE.
I have a range of sources, as you've said, and those sources point to Paris, and they point towards DGSE.
Now, DGSE is the equivalent of an MI6.
It's outward.
DGSU is internal.
It's the DST, Direction de Surveillance de la Territoire, which is the internal agency.
And the DST are internal, DGSE are external.
Let's just put it this way, Alex.
The operation has all the hallmarks of DGSE, and British intelligence on my sources are furious.
They're not happy at all, because David, after all, was a British intelligence asset.
Well, by the way, my webmaster, Paul Watson, has talked to a major British news reporter who has talked directly to British intelligence, and they said months ago, I'm talking six months ago, the same thing that you just said here.
Oh, that is interesting, because that would be almost certainly a different source to mine.
We're talking to the same people.
It might be.
One of the problems in the intelligence world is loopback.
Something you think is independent confirmation may turn out to be.
No, I understand.
But, I mean, clearly from the circumstantial, from the material evidence, you've got murder, you've got a cover-up, you've got a spin, you've got a motive.
Absolutely.
You've got him telling the U.S.
doctor, his colleague, if I don't shut up, I'm going to be found dead in the woods, they're going to kill me.
I mean, this is all public now.
We have him saying, they're going to kill me and put me in the woods.
You said that you've talked to intelligence people who said, yeah, they knew that Kelly was about to get it before he even died.
Can you elaborate on that?
Yeah, the source that spoke to me on 19th July, after the assassination, because, you see, this source was a friend of David Kelly's,
And so David was a friend of a friend.
And this source obviously was not very happy.
He didn't take him five minutes to work out that this was murder, not suicide.
He then made inquiries, and he established from other sources that the murder was known about in advance, i.e.
the death that David Kelly was known about within a section of Whitehall prior to the 17th of July.
And he was very unhappy with that.
And that source came through to me and effectively I'm acting as an interface between the media and the intelligence community.
It is not possible for the intelligence community to do what I'm doing now and go on to a radio show.
Well, you have an impeccable record, and you've been involved in a lot of high-profile cases.
You've testified before the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence for our Senate here, and you write for major intelligence journals.
You've certainly impressed me, Mr. Shrimpton, because I study this stuff continually, and you're just massively knowledgeable, more knowledgeable in many areas than I am.
I should correct.
I didn't testify for the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence.
The briefing I gave was a closed...
Well, I understand.
That's what I meant.
Well, just to be clear, sir, I know when you guys testify, it's always public.
Here, most of what they do, obviously, you know, is behind doors.
That's what I mean.
This was with the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence.
I was invited into their operation.
They're very nice people.
And this was a confidential briefing on a case in which I've been involved, which obviously I can't discuss on the air as a courtesy to the guys and girls I briefed in.
Very nice people.
Absolutely.
Now, I was just going over some of your bio for folks.
Now, as we sit here looking at this, for those who don't understand why...
Why a element inside England would want to use someone outside England who would then use another membrane between them and the hitman?
That's just standard operating procedure.
But why would the French be happy to go along with getting rid of Kelly?
Well, it would depend on the French assessment of whether or not the government would be at risk.
The French would definitely want Tony Blair's government to remain in office.
They would be very concerned indeed at any suggestion that might risk the government.
That is a very strong geopolitical motive for the French retaining their ally.
Don't forget that the Blair government is a close ally of President Chirac.
There have been a series of private meetings between Prime Minister Blair and President Chirac.
And they're pushing the euro, so they believe that if Blair's in danger, the euro's in danger.
Well, exactly.
Tony Blair is the most high-profile politician in the UK committed to destroying the national currency.
And the French very much want Blair to remain in office for geopolitical reasons, and we've just had a very unusual summit between Blair, Chirac, and the German Chancellor, Schroeder.
I have to be very cautious.
I'm not naming Tony Blair as the person who generated the tasking for the assassination.
Indeed, I am quite comfortable that it wasn't Tony Blair who put the tasking into Paris.
Now, question marks, what did he know, and when did he know it?
There I'm
You know, I can't be so confident.
Well, obviously Tony Blair's a puppet.
I mean, he's not running the entire mechanism of the government, so... Well, he's a puppet prime minister anyway, so he's committed to the European Union.
I mean, he takes his orders, like anyone who says we should be in the European Union, you take your orders from Brussels, because that's what the government from Brussels involves.
Exactly so.
That's the constitutional position.
You know, European community law is...
Supreme, according to the European Union.
And it takes precedence over British law.
Yeah, your Magna Carta is gone if that sucker passes.
It's a dead duck these days, Alex.
But that's a broader issue.
You're right, incidentally, on the false flagging.
I'm often called upon formally or informally, usually informally, to deconstruct assassinations, to look at a particular assassination and try and work out what's happened.
Basically, in counterintelligence work, we would normally recognise eight methods of trying to disguise an assassination.
First method is you would try and blame it on your political opponents.
That was done in Sweden recently with the assassination of Anna Lind, the very nice Swedish foreign minister.
An attempt was made to blame that on opponents of Sweden joining the Euro.
You can blame it on a terrorist organisation that was done, particularly with the IRA, in the attempted assassination of Margaret Thatcher, assassination of the war hero Airene Eve, a Conservative MP who was blamed on the Irish National Liberation Army.
The terrorist organisation might carry out the assassination, but in almost every case the terrorist organisation is working for a government.
A third method of disguising assassinations, Alex, in my experience, is to false flag them.
Where it's blamed on another agency.
Now, there are elements of false flagging in the Kelly assassination, because had the team which carried out the assassination been discovered, clearly it could have been false flagged via Baghdad, and we'd have had three Iraqis in Oxfordshire, assuming it was Iraqis, for the sake of argument, and obviously blame would then go to Baghdad, and Paris would be off the hook.
The Iranians tried that quite successfully with the attempted assassination of the Pope.
Back in the early 1980s.
Then you have the lone gunman theory.
Now you guys are very familiar with that because you will recall that somebody tried to blame Lee Harvey Oswald for the assassination of President John Carroll Kennedy.
An amusing suggestion to those of us who know a little bit more about that assassination than is in the public domain.
We've had a lone gunman, a classic example of a lone gunman assassination theory in Europe with the assassination of the Dutch politician Pim Fortuyn, which was blamed on a lone gunman.
An explanation which doesn't carry much weight with me since in the photographs of the assassin that I saw, there was what appeared to me to be a very thin wire leading up to an earpiece in his right ear.
Normally, Alex, lone gunmen don't run around with radios and earpieces.
Well, it was the same thing with Yishak Rabin.
Yeah, exactly.
I mean, Netanyahu's giving speeches about somebody ought to get rid of this guy, and then Rabin's security steps back and they blow him away.
Well, there are certainly respected commentators, General Thomas is one, who would say that the Rabin assassination was definitely not down to a lone government.
Then you've got illness.
Now, this is fairly rare.
It's difficult to fake an illness
He was done in the case of a British politician, Hugh Gatesgall, who was opposed to Britain joining the European Economic Community, and he came down with a tropical disease in Moscow in the middle of winter, generally speaking.
He was spotted at the time as an assassination, but MI5, although they brought in Porton Down, where David Kelly worked, incidentally,
Porton Down were brought in, but Porton Down couldn't work out how the disease which got Hugh Gates school, which is lupus disseminatus, a very nasty disease indeed, attacks the organs very similar to Ebola, how this tropical disease had found its way to Moscow.
They couldn't work out how, what the agent was for getting the lupus into Hugh Gates school.
We now know it was probably aerosol, but at the time that technology wasn't known about in England.
Then you've got accident, and there are a couple of interesting political assassinations in Zimbabwe of road
What about Princess Diana?
She says, Prince Charles is going to kill me in a staged automobile accident and then she dies.
Well, the Diana assassination is certainly probably the classic recent example of trying to make it look like an accident.
We've been having all these microbiologists and government weapons programs will be walking down the street of the university and a van jumps the rail, chases them, runs them over, then backs back over them, drives back over them, and the police just go, an accident, a hit and run.
Well, if you want the truth on the assassination, the best people to talk to are the Israelis, because they had Danny Atom, a lovely guy, by the way, who was then head of Mossad in 1997.
They're really nice people.
Danny had teams, I think, on the entrance to the Alma Tunnel and on the exit as well.
Interesting man, lovely chap.
Tunnels where?
This is the Alma Tunnel where Diana was taken.
The seventh method of disguising assassinations, in my experience, is to try and use the naturally occurring poison.
A favourite of intelligence agencies is saxotoxin, which occurs in selfish, so it's possible, providing you can get some shellfish into the stomach of the victim, a saxotoxin assassination, providing you successfully disguise the puncture wound, or you can find a method of getting the poison into the body.
You can get away with that if you're lucky.
And then the final method is the one tried in the case of David Kelly, that you try and make the murder look like suicide,
But it's very difficult.
In this case, the attempt to slash the wrist was pointless, because he was already dead, and there's not enough blood.
None of the witnesses, in my judgment, reports enough blood consistent with him bleeding out.
And the medical experts that we've talked to, and that have been insisting on this, the medical experts generally reckon that he would be looking for five pints, that's English pints of blood,
There's nothing I've seen that persuades me that more than a pint was lost, and that's about consistent with what you'd expect from transacting one ulnar artery, completely transacting it.
It then retracts clots, and you get surprisingly little bleeding from cutting your ulnar artery.
Well, sir, can we keep you a little bit in the next hour?
Because I want to come back and go to Pat and Jim and Lenny and others that have been patiently holding.
I'd be delighted to talk to you.
I didn't realize.
I'm sorry.
I've been talking on and I've been keeping people on the phone.
Oh, no.
This is important information because this shows the type of things that are going on in our world.
Yeah.
And how the media tries to spin this, but why do you think the media have been so willing to go along with the official government story that it's a suicide?
Well, the political consequences.
The mainstream media in the UK are largely committed to UK membership of the European Union, and my guess is that most of the newspapers in the UK would be worried about the political consequences of going public with any story suggesting David Kelly was assassinated.
And then you've got technical competence.
There aren't that many good investigative journalists in the UK.
And it's not that difficult to get the mainstream media to buy an official version of events.
Yeah, it's easy.
Just know the Fed says this.
Just write it and go drink a beer.
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Okay, folks, we're back live here, and we're about to go to your calls.
Everybody's been holding patiently for our guest.
Going back to our guest, Michael Shrimpton, national security lawyer, barrister in England.
Michael?
Yeah.
Continuing with what we were discussing and just briefly recapping, you have a source.
My source learned after the assassination that others in Whitehall were aware of the assassination in advance.
Yes.
And that source had spoken to, obviously he was a friend of David Kelly's, knew him well, had worked with him, and clearly once his friend was found dead in a wood, made investigations, and when he made investigations, he discovered that this assassination was known about in advance.
And he told, and this was in the Associated Press, BBC, you name it, he told an American doctor who was on the team with him in Iraq, he said, if I don't shut up about this, I'm going to end up dead in the woods.
Yeah, there was also an interesting conversation with David Brucher, who was formerly a British ambassador in Prague in the Czech Republic, along similar lines.
And that, David Brucher, I think, was a witness, in fact, to that inquiry.
David Kelly worked, I should, I mean, I never had the privilege of meeting him.
I'd love to have met him.
My friend certainly worked with him and knew him.
David worked very closely with the United States intelligence and worked very closely with Sergeant Mike Peterson in particular, but I get the impression he was very highly thought of in the U.S.
intelligence community as well.
Was this done by the pro-EU crowd, the globalists I would call them, to put out a chilling effect into everybody in intelligence to keep your mouths shut?
Broadly speaking, yes.
Now, motive is...
Another question altogether.
It's tolerably clear, one can't be certain, tolerably clear that he was taken out in order to prevent him talking.
Now, what is unclear is whether he was taken out because there was concern he was about to acquire intelligence that might be highly damaging, or taken out because he had acquired it and was about to talk to the media.
We know there was concern about the extent of his media contacts.
He was also a microbiologist, and there's been a whole bunch of those dying around the world.
Let's take a call.
Pat in Indiana, thanks for holding.
You're on the air with our guest.
Go ahead.
Yes, well, this is a little off the subject, but it has to do with... Ma'am, you don't have your radio on, do you?
Yeah, he's... Or a speakerphone or something, because I'm not going to be able to talk to you if you don't turn it off.
Okay, he did.
Okay, go ahead.
Okay, it's on a couple subjects.
I'm going to have to go ahead and put her on hold.
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Pat, go ahead.
Hello, yeah, um...
This is on a couple of subjects.
I don't know what's wrong because we turned our radio off.
Okay, it's all right.
Okay.
Go ahead.
This is on a couple of subjects, one from Earlham College and one from a town hall meeting I had with Mike Henson.
On Friday.
Ma'am, is this concerning our guest?
No.
Okay, because you told us that you wanted to talk to our guest, so I'm going to have to put you on hold.
Nice to talk to you anyway, Pat.
Yeah, nice to talk to you.
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I know there's a whole bunch of calls here for you.
We'll try to sort them out and find out what's going on as we talk to our guest, Michael Shrimpton, and national intelligence barrister in England.
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Now into the third hour.
Talking to Michael Shrimpton, National Security Barrister in England with his intelligence sources concerning the murder of Dr. David Kelly.
And British people are very suspicious, as are many other folks around the world.
And more and more is coming out.
Let's go ahead and go to Jim in Illinois.
Jim, thanks for holding.
You're on the air with our guest.
Go ahead.
I have two quick questions.
Mrs. Shrimpton, what is David Kelly's wife's thing about his murder?
Janice Kelly, hi Jim, Janice Kelly accepts that it was suicide.
At least that's her official position.
Okay.
And my next question, why didn't the British or the American or the Israeli intelligence assassinate Saddam Hussein before the war?
Well, that's a big question, probably better directed to intelligence officials.
Assassination is a very... I mean, I'm opposed to assassinations in principle, one of the reasons why I'm outraged by David Kelly's assassination.
Assassination is a double-edged sword, and I think had we gone in and taken out Saddam Hussein, that would have rebounded on both Britain and America very quickly.
So I think the call not to assassinate him was...
It was probably well made.
It's also more difficult to assassinate politicians like Saddam Hussein than first appears.
You remember the CIA's farcical efforts to try and get rid of Fidel Castro.
They had to go for several years and they didn't get anywhere close to assassinating him with exploding cigars and what have you.
I would say the call not to take Saddam Hussein out was right.
The danger with assassinating somebody like Saddam is saying you build up inside Iraq popular support for his regime.
Yeah, you turn him into a martyr and also it'll cause a revolution even before you get there and then you won't control kind of the way the balls break.
Thank you.
Thanks for the call.
That's a really good question.
Anything else, Jim?
No, thank you.
Great to talk to you, Jim.
I've got a question.
Where is this going?
I've got a question for you, Michael.
Where is all this going?
As more and more doctors and people come forward, and as you come forward and say it's clear that he was murdered, I mean, where does all this go for Tony Blair?
Well, there are indications that he may be preparing to resign.
He's denied officially over the weekend that he's planning to resign, which is an indication that he is.
Never believe anything until it's officially denied.
A number of key advisers have bailed out.
Alastair Campbell, another key adviser, Philip Gould, has just been offered a peerage, which is a form of retirement we have in England that you don't have in the United States.
Michael Meacher months ago.
Michael Meacher, yes.
There are now calls.
Michael Meacher has issued a call.
He's a former government minister.
Michael has issued a call over the last weekend calling on him to go.
There are indications that he is on his way out, but it's up to him.
Or after his party.
Well, that would certainly be good.
I mean, have you ever had a prime minister this bad?
Well, that's a political question.
The answer is probably, but I can't remember when.
It's a close toss-up between Tony Blair, John Major and Lord North, who lost the American colonies.
But from your point of view, Lord North is probably quite good to have in Downing Street.
That's funny.
Neville Chamberlain, I think that without being disrespectful to my Prime Minister on the air,
I think it's a close call between Tony Blair and Neville Chamberlain.
You'd have to, you know, you'd have to, you could have ten different politicians and economists and military strategists sit around a table and come up with ten different answers as to whether Neville Chamberlain surrendered more of Europe than Tony Blair and whether Tony Blair surrendered more to France and Germany than Neville Chamberlain did.
It's a close run thing.
Well, I think it's clearly Tony Blair if he gets what he wants.
Yeah, I have to say, having met Tony Blair, he's quite a pleasant, personal individual.
He's not a monster when you meet him.
Well, they said that about Adolf Hitler, too.
You know, we've got a break.
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Just an absolutely amazing and riveting interview of the last hour and eight minutes with our guest, a national security barrister, a lawyer,
Who has consulted with the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence here in the U.S.
and given speeches and consulted around the world and writes for major terrorism journals going over...
Well, just a lot of interesting facts for us.
Like, usually, if you've got some type of terrorist assassination, terrorist killing people, there's usually a government behind them using them as a go-between.
Oh, we've discovered that here in our research, too.
And going over the evidence of how Dr. David Kelly was killed and the elements inside governments that did it and why.
Let's take a few calls.
We'll go to David and Ian and a few others here in a few minutes.
But right now, let's go to Lenny Bloom, who's been a guest on this show before and has a website, cloakanddagger.com.
I know last week they got some rumblings of this story and put it out.
And Lenny, what's on your mind?
Well, welcome.
Thanks for having me back, Alex.
You're doing a tremendous yeoman service job.
You know, the pilots who fly these assassination teams around the world don't have a public responsibility to tell the truth or tell people.
But the media has a core responsibility.
You know, these things, there's so many people involved that I've known and been a part of as a spy pilot over the years.
This thing with Dr. Kelly is something that's interesting.
Ever since the Duke of Edinburgh said he wanted to become a deadly virus and come back and be reincarnated, we have kept a biochemical doctor's death list for good reason.
The Duke doesn't want to be suspected or blamed for his actions.
It's really interesting and clear what's going on here.
It's
Right in front of everybody's nose.
Okay, Lenny, do you have any questions or comments for our guest?
Yeah, I just want to say thanks for coming out.
I think it's great that you're starting to dig into the whole thing.
I think Kelly was number 50 on the death list.
Let me ask our guests that.
Are you familiar, sir, that there's been all over the Western world, Australia, Russia, Western Europe, England, the U.S., top bioweapons scientists being murdered?
Kelly, just so happened to be one more on that list.
Well, I'm aware of an unusually high percentage of microbiologists going south, and put it this way, it's attracted my interest.
I think David Kelly wasn't taken out as part of a systematic campaign to take out WMD scientists.
I didn't say that.
Yeah, I agree.
I didn't say that.
He's part of a death list, though, and there may be different reasons for it.
Good to hear from you.
Hi, Lenny.
You mentioned you were a spy pilot.
What planes were you flying?
Well, I'm rather grounded right now.
What did you use to fly?
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Wow.
Okay, well, thanks for the call, Lenny.
I appreciate that, and thanks for all your work.
Great to talk to you, Lenny.
Yeah, let's talk to David in Texas.
David, you're on the air.
Go ahead.
Hello, sir.
Yes, go ahead.
Hi, thank you for taking my call.
I have a quick question on the media.
I know that you're involved in intelligence, but in our country, we don't see a lot of programming from Tel Aviv and Palestinian television.
And I know they present a very, you know, I don't know, ethical code of the Francois and things of that such.
And we don't quite kill a lot of that.
Okay, I don't understand exactly what you're saying.
Boil it down for us.
Well, the promotion of Dying for Allah is a shown thing on TV in Tel Aviv, and media doesn't really focus on that here in the United States.
I'm wondering what your view is on that, and do you see that in Europe?
I'll go ahead and listen.
Thank you.
Okay, David.
Always a pleasure to talk to somebody from... Whereabouts in Texas are you from?
I believe he's gone.
Oh, he's gone?
Well, let me answer his question as a courtesy to him.
I'm not very impressed with media coverage of the Middle East generally.
I do subscribe to a very interesting service called Memory, the Middle East Media Research Institute, and some of the stuff they come up with on what is broadcast on mainstream media in Egypt and Saudi Arabia concerning Israel is just shocking.
It's like the 1930s all over again.
Very, very disturbing stuff.
So I'm not very impressed with mainstream coverage of the Middle East, and that's partly why I went to Israel in June, a little fact-finding tour.
You were there with the IDF on the ground.
What did you learn?
Well, I was very impressed with the way the IDF ran checkpoints.
I talked to the checkpoint commander in Janine, for example.
Very impressed with what I saw.
Very impressed with the security fence, which is clearly having an impact in those sectors of the West Bank, where it's been erected.
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Your southern border is not particularly well protected with respect to the guys and girls who are down there protecting it.
But they need more resources.
But back to the IDF.
I'm sorry for interrupting.
Well, I'm a big fan of the IDF.
I was very impressed meeting and talking from soldiers up to generals.
I think the IDF are doing a good job.
I think the Israelis know far more about counter-terrorism than we do in Britain or in the United States.
My general line with Israel is I think we in the West, the rest of the West, Israel is part of the West, we need to get off the Israelis' back and let them go and do the job.
They do know what they're doing.
Well, certainly they know how to build a fence, and I wish we had one of those.
The fence is very impressive.
It's more than a fence, of course.
You've got a ditch, you've got a roadway that allows regular patrolling, easy access to any terrorist incursion, good surveillance, some good high-tech stuff there.
The security barrier is a very impressive development.
Yeah.
Let's go ahead now.
Who's up next in line here, Stephanie?
Ian in Canada.
You're on the air with our guest.
Go ahead.
Thanks, Alex.
I wanted to ask your guest, I wanted to explore the occultic implications of David Kelly's death.
And by illustration, I'm going to refer to a case that he may be familiar with, Air Marshal Sir Peter Horsley.
They tried to take him out like Diana with the rig brakes on his BMW in the mid-'80s, just between Amesbury Circle and Stonehenge, about 660 yards.
If you can believe it, into his drive west along the motorway.
There was that occultic association.
And what I'm wondering is because David Kelly, you reported, probably died on July 17th, which is right in the middle of that high holiday they celebrate at Bohemian Grove, Alex.
That was the date that... Let me bring this up to him.
I don't know if he's aware of it, but Skull and Bones, admittedly a weird occult organization, Bohemian Grove, I snuck into it.
That was on national British television.
The footage I shot a few years ago, it's also aired here.
In some of these killings, they do seem to do it in a ritualistic fashion.
That was brought up with Princess Diana.
Do you want to get into that, or is that too... No, I didn't see...
He claims that he was being used to take somebody else out, but they rigged his BMW.
And I believe he was the target.
But see, here's the problem.
We have to solve this other stuff in that we can't prove, Ian.
Then when the news goes and listens to this interview, it's discussions of things we can't prove.
That's the problem.
Well, Alex, if the guest wants to explore this, the book that Sir Peter wrote is Voices from Another Room, and he'd find it in the UK.
Okay, well, thank you for that.
I really appreciate it.
Thank you, Air Marshals.
I'm sure I can find an Air Marshal who knows on you, Sir Peter.
All right.
And I guess up next is Wayne.
Wayne, where are you calling us from?
Okay, Wayne is gone.
Let's go ahead and go to Bob in California.
Bob, go ahead.
You're on the air, Bob.
I'm kind of sorry.
I'm not on topic today.
I wanted to call you about...
The die-able machines that our county is using for touch-tone voting.
I'm going to put you on hold.
You know what?
We'll get to you coming up in the next segment.
Good morning, Bob.
That's an interesting subject, but not one on which I could give any qualified comment.
Well, we've got so many callers here, it's hard to figure out who's calling in on subject.
It would be nice if they did call in on subject.
You're a popular guy, Alex, and I can understand, having listened to your show, why you've got a lot of feedback.
Oh, well, it's great.
A lot of great people out there.
And we've obviously got to have you back on because you're a very intelligent, very informative person because there's not many people that I get on the show who end up knowing more about intelligence matters because I study it pretty much perpetually.
And you brought out some very important information.
And I really want to thank you for coming on the show, Mr. Shrimpton.
Alex, it's been my pleasure and a privilege.
And for those that just joined us, again, Michael Shrimpton, a national intelligence lawyer or barrister in England, and he writes for major intelligence journals and has consulted around the world on intelligence matters, and he was coming on, exposing the murder of Dr. David Kelly.
Do you think those that were responsible will ever be brought to justice, sir?
I don't think they will.
I think those immediately responsible are already dead.
My guess is they were taken out within 24, 48 hours of the assassination.
I suspect those involved in tasking the assassination will be dealt with informally and will be given valuable guidance.
And the public will not get to know about it.
And my guess is that the coroner, Nick Gardner,
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I'm going to talk to Bob, Ron, Pat, and John.
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Because I've got to spend at least 20 minutes here at the end of the show to cover all this news.
I mean, I've just got it coming out of my ears here.
Let's go ahead and go back to Bob, who had some points he wanted to make.
Bob, go ahead.
Yes, Alex.
I simply wanted to say that
The other day on television on the local news channel, we had our registrar of voters tell us that the voting booth things, those Diabold machines that we have in Shasta County, she could guarantee that they would be absolutely excellent.
They would not have any faults, could not be penetrated by any hackers.
And she can guarantee that there's going to be no record of it, and you're not going to get any receipt, and no recounts allowed, and they say that here, they say that everywhere, and everywhere where you investigate, they're stealing elections.
She said that in spite of the fact that there's four other counties surrounding this county suing the state to get these things outlawed.
Everywhere.
Also, you're in California, the guy who ran the California election for Diebold was a convicted felon, and guess what he was a convicted felon for?
Computer hacking.
Computer hacking and wire fraud.
Oh, nice, nice vice president of Diebold.
And by the way, all the Diebold machines got really good returns for Arnold.
He lost on machines that weren't Diebold, but he won on all the others.
And he went on Meet the Pres and said, I'm going to be your new president.
Yeah, I've decided that I'm going to go down to the registrar and get a, what do you call that, a ballot to get the vote off of the machines.
You've got to start a recall petition to get rid of those things.
Well, I'm going to do an absentee ballot right away because I know that if she gets flooded with those kind of absentee ballots, they're going to say, why is no one using these machines?
Maybe they'll take a second look at the money that it's going to cost them, which is the only way to get their attention.
See, the Voter Assistance Act of Bush and Chuckie Schumer, it was like $5.8 billion to federalize.
This is all federally paid for.
Why?
It's free machines!
The feds love us!
Thanks for the call.
So sick.
Great points, Bob.
Ron in New York, and then Pat, and then John and others.
That's it.
Ron, go ahead.
Alex, isn't your guest, Mr. Schroeper, isn't his life in danger also?
And the other question is, what about Nader?
Has he been brought up?
Well, I wish you had told us you wanted to talk to the guest.
I'd have put you on with him.
Yeah, we addressed that.
By going public, he's safe.
And he told me a lot more off air, folks.
They've got some really strange laws over there, but he told me a lot more off air, believe me.
But he has intelligence sources in MI5, MI6.
They all know they killed Kelly.
They knew before it even happened that they were going to kill him.
And by going public, he's safe.
And Nader, Ralph Nader, was he brought up to ensure Bush's election?
Yeah, this is going to hurt a lot of greenies who are well-meaning people but have got it all wrong.
You don't stop big government with more big government.
You don't stop big corporations with big government.
Big corporations control big government.
You just give them a bigger tool to control you, a bigger hammer to hit you upside the head with, a bigger net to capture you in.
Was he put up to run?
Yeah, Nader puts out a lot of good info.
A lot of things he says are true, but his solutions are wrong.
And, yeah, it's obvious.
And I'm not saying go get Democrats in.
But yes, yes, it is clear the Greens are funded by the Ford Foundation, the Carnegie Foundation.
They're the leftward control arm of the globalists.
Just like a lot of evidence shows some of the other so-called reform groups are the right-wing catch group.
You understand?
That way, for those of us that go off the reservation looking for an alternative, they'll give us a steam valve like Nader.
So he's going to pull votes away from Kerry and Bush will win.
But it won't matter because John Forbes carries skull and bones.
And it doesn't matter because they're put in electronic voting machines.
You have the old model of controlling elections still in place.
As they put in the new model, the touchscreens openly run by the CIA.
Publicly run by the CIA.
So they ensure their win four different ways.
There's no way they can lose.
Well, exactly.
And in the future, I mean, it's going to be really funny watching them act like there's an election.
Or will these candidates really believe they're in an election?
We're going to have to have candidates run as, like, secret agents locally who act like they're globalists and secretly get in and, you know, try to... We'll have to, like, covertly have, you know, I guess our own secret society to get people elected.
That's what they did to overthrow our country.
We're going to have to have it to defeat them.
Do you get what I'm saying?
Yes, thanks a lot.
God bless you.
Alex, you're doing a great job.
Hey, God bless you, Ron.
Good to hear from you.
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Let's talk to Pat in Indiana, who's really been holding patiently.
Pat, good to hear from you.
Well, that's all right.
I just had two things to say, that I went to a meeting with Mike Pence, and I went to Earlham College for a meeting about what's going on in the global situation.
And I asked Mike again about the Patriot Act 1 and 2 and the Victory Act 1 and 2, and I asked him to elaborate on 802.
This is your congressman?
Yeah, I'll pass.
And he said he helped write the whole Patriot Act, and he couldn't elaborate on 802, and he said there was no Patriot Act number 2.
Okay, so we got John Ashcroft last year saying there's no Patriot Act 2.
After it's introduced, they've now passed over 60% of it in the Intelligence Act of last year, of December 13th that they passed.
And so you're dealing with a big fat liar.
There's no Patriot Act 2.
That person's a big fat liar.
And where do I get this information?
Off your website?
Yeah, we have a detailed analysis of Patriot Act 1 and 2 on InfoWars.com.
And then we have the Associated Press article covering the passage of Patriot Act 2 in December of last year.
And we have Ron Paul's written analysis of it on the site as well.
So I don't know what this guy's talking about.
Okay, uh...
We also went to a meeting over at Earlham College where it's the Quaker College.
And the subject was globalism.
And a lot of them have seen your videos.
And they're trying to start some grassroots movements around here.
But after I got some literature and came home, I realized on the literature it says Quaker U.N.
Office.
777 UN Plaza, New York, New York.
That's what I was about to say.
Look, there's a lot of people involved with the Quakers who are well-meaning, nice folks, aren't evil, but in the 60s it got taken over by the communists.
I've been to Quaker meetings to protest them.
Open borders, gun control, UN control.
Oh yeah, the Quakers will talk about the New World Order and the big bankers and how it's the evil corporations, but their answer is the UN publicly founded by the corporations.
So again, it's like the phony conservatives are on the air talking about the evil Democrats, but oh, the conservatives are good.
Then the Quakers will talk about the evil Republicans, oh, but the liberals are good.
Either way, the globalists still win.
Yeah, that's exactly what they were saying.
But it's fine to go recruit people out of the Quakers into the real reality.
That's a good thing to do.
Thanks for the call.
It's good to deprogram these people.
And I was about to make fun of the Quakers.
I decided not to do it, and you brought it up.
I mean, I shouldn't make fun of them.
They're very dangerous.
They want open borders.
They're globalists.
They're funded by the bankers.
They find well-meaning people and go, oh, socialism's the answer, see, when the bankers wrote that.
Let's talk to John in Tennessee.
Last caller.
Go ahead, John.
Yesterday on Meet the Press, Ralph Nader announced he's running for president without a party.
The Green Party refused to let him be its candidate or anyone else.
And Nader demanded the immediate impeachment of Bush.
He said Congressman Conyers is sponsoring a bill to impeach Bush before the election.
I have a clip of Nader's demand for impeachment.
It's exactly two minutes long, and I have it queued up if you want me to play it on the radio.
Two minutes long?
Two minutes long is the clip of him discussing impeachment with Tim Russert.
Well, the audio's okay.
I might play it, John, but really, we can get the clips ourselves.
Well, it's on the transcript if you go to Meet the Press from yesterday.
Okay, go ahead and start rolling it if you want to play this.
You can cut it off when you get tired of it.
Two minutes.
Okay.
I don't think America belongs just to these Democrat and Republican parties.
In terms of what you stand for, this is what you said in July of last year about George Bush.
Mr. Bush was not only beatable, but impeachable for deception.
That's too bad.
We can't do it.
John, you've got a horrible hum.
Sounds like we're all about to have our heads explode here.
Send me the video or send me a clip in an MP3 format to tipsandinfowars.com.
Sorry.
We can shoot it up to the network in Minnesota.
We can play stuff like that on air.
We do that quite a bit, but it really sounds bad when it's...
When it's like that, I'm sorry.
It was horrible.
And I'm not saying Ralph Nader's evil, but his solutions are bad.
Okay, there's corrupt criminal corporations, I agree.
But you don't then get rid of the free market because there's some criminals abusing it.
The criminals are using government to selectively create a crony capitalism where the corporations use the government as their enforcer.
You don't create a bigger government and defeat them.
It's like if somebody's beating you over the head with a club and you go, I'm going to stop them.
I'm going to give them an even bigger club.
That's going to handle this.
And that's what leftists can't figure out.
And then, of course, the leftists are wrong on the social issues, too.
And then the neocons are wrong on almost everything and think they're conservatives.
Okay, you know what?
I'm going to cover news now in the last 20-something minutes we've got left here.
There's just so much of this.
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I said I'd read this editorial because it's so good and it says it all.
Anti-Semitism Charges Causing More Damage Than Film Could by Rabbi Daniel Lappin.
And it says, Two weeks before the opening of Mel Gibson's The Passion of the Christ, online ticket merchants reported that up to half of their total sales were for the films.
One Dallas multiplex has reserved all 20 of its screens for The Passion.
I am neither a prophet nor a movie critic.
I am merely an orthodox rabbi.
This is from the Daily News, by the way.
I am merely an orthodox rabbi using ancient Jewish wisdom to make three predictions about the movie.
One, Mel Gibson and Icon Productions will make a great deal of money.
We're good to go.
We're good to go.
I think we're good to go.
Protesting the passion, ostensibly in order to prevent pogroms in Pittsburgh, can hardly be proud of their performance.
They failed at everything they attempted.
They were hoping to ruin Gibson rather than enrich him.
They were hoping to suppress the passion rather than promote it.
Finally, they were hoping to help Jews rather than harm them.
But by selectively unleashing their fury only on wholesale entertainment that depicts Christianity in a positive light, these groups have triggered anger, hurt and resentment.
Hosting a radio show and speaking before many audiences nationwide, I enjoy extensive communication with Christian America.
And what I hear is troubling.
Fearful and attracting the ire of Jewish groups that are so quick to hurl the anti-Semite epithet, some Christians are reluctant to speak out, although one can bludgeon resentful people into silence behind closed doors, emotions continue to simmer.
I consider it crucially important for Christians to know that not all Jews are in agreement with their self-appointed spokesman.
Most American Jews experience warm and gracious interactions each day with their Christian fellow citizens and would feel awkward trying to explain why so many Jewish organizations seem focused on an agenda hostile to Judeo-Christian values.
And it goes on and on, and I couldn't say it any better.
And that's what I said last week.
I said no one would have seen this movie and thought, man, Jews are bad.
I mean, I grew up, folks, watching movies about Jesus, reading the Bible, and never thought, oh, Jews are bad.
I mean, this was the corrupt government of the Jews and the Romans killing somebody who was speaking out against their evil.
We know governments are evil.
We know man's evil.
So by the ADL running out and doing this and saying this,
All they've done is made people think, hmm, what's going on?
And the rabbi goes on to say that.
And that's what I said last week.
Look, I have Jewish friends.
They're upset about this.
I mean, they can't stand the ADL.
The ADL will go after a Jewish group of their pro-gun folks.
I mean, it's time for Americans to stand up to the ADL, as well as the Southern Poverty Law Center, but they're not as powerful as the ADL, and to tell them to stop it.
Because they've totally discredited Jews when they try to stand up against something that is anti-Semitic.
Because there is a place for standing up against anti-Semitism.
There needs to be organizations that do that.
I mean, I stand up against racist Mexicans and blacks and white supremacists, but I don't have to be Jewish to do it.
And so we need to understand here that this rabbi is correct, and it's time to stop letting the ADL be the spokesman for Jews.
It's real simple.
And on Hutton Gibson, good friend of mine, good people.
I've talked to him many times off air.
He loves the Jewish people.
He does not dislike Jews.
Everything you hear is taken out of context.
He does not think six million Jews died.
Those numbers aren't clear.
Hutton studied it.
He hates Hitler.
He criticizes the Pope, folks.
Calls the Pope names.
He is against Zionism.
And he is not anti-Semitic.
And he believes Masons are the ones that are now in control of Judaism.
And they seem to be in control of everything for that matter.
And so they take that out of context and try to make him look like he's anti-Semitic again, and it's just going to backfire.
And I got a call from MSNBC, a call from CNN, and I just told my wife when she said they were on the phone, I just said, look, we're not doing the interviews because I'm not going to sit here and add fuel to this fire.
So, and you know, I got Hutton's number as he travels around the country visiting family.
I don't think I'm going to call him and tell him, oh, Hutton, I didn't go on national TV and talk about you.
But perhaps Pastor Bush can tell him that, that I told MSNBC and others that I didn't want to talk to him.
But it's just horrible.
They've taken something wholesome like the passion and tried to make it dirty.
And, you know, even if Hutton Gibson, you know, was bad, which he's not, he's a good guy.
Still, by going and focusing on him, they try to make it something nasty and bad, and it causes division.
And I've said it over and over again.
Multiculturalism does that.
It actually creates racism.
You can prove that.
Okay, prepare yourself for a news blitz.
I spent too much time on this, but the rabbi's words needed to be heard.
I agree with him.
House votes for ignition interlocks on every vehicle.
This is out of the Associated Press, Santa Fe, New Mexico.
I told you this five years ago.
You're all going to blow in the breathalyzer to start your cars.
And then it's going to be a retina scanner because, oh, you can have your kids or your wife blow for you.
This is the federal plan.
The House has approved a measure that would require ignition interlocks on every vehicle sold in New Mexico.
It would require the devices on new vehicles by 2008 and on used vehicles offered for sale by 2009.
And everyone will have to blow to start their car.
I mean, big brother on steroids?
Come on.
Good news, Carcieri pulls bill on Homeland Security.
This is out of the Providence Journal, on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.
Do you remember the last Wednesday we read the governor's bill where it said, criticize the government, you're arrested as a terrorist, fly anything with the American flag, you're arrested as a terrorist?
Uh...
Total government secrecy.
We're all terrorists now.
The World War I laws.
You talk about Nazi Germany.
Well, the governor says, I never read the bill.
I didn't know it.
I'm sorry.
I apologize, but I am going to try to pass another bill.
And by the way, he went to the governor's conference with Governor Ridge and got this legislation.
So that shows you what Ridge is up to.
And it says a bunch of states have passed it, so...
Good news, though.
We got the word, and we got radio stations up in that neck of the woods.
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So good job.
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New York Times reports, court upholds judge's right to compel medication.
The state's highest court on Tuesday upheld the constitutionality of law that gives judges authority to force mentally ill people to comply with treatment.
But we've actually read the legislation and what the court ruled on.
And that's not the case.
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An internal FBI report kept under wraps for three years entails dozens of cases of agents fired for egregious misconduct and crimes, including drug trafficking, attempted murder, theft, misuse of informants, consorting with prostitutes.
The report Wednesday by Senator Charles Grassley, Republican, Iowa, found that about 1,000 agents were dismissed in all for serious misconduct or criminal offenses by the FBI during the period examined from 1986 to 1999.
The average was between eight and nine per year.
How do you have 1,000 agents were dismissed for serious misconduct
And over 16 years, it's only nine a year.
Boy, do the math there.
That's a misprint.
And although the numbers were small, the FBI's attempts to cover it up were a concern.
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This is out of a Sunday Telegraph.
Bin Laden's surrounded.
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He told you two years ago he died of kidney failure, will be handed over right before the election.
Now Albright says it, now everybody says it.
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The Pentagon is moving elements of a super-secret commando unit from Iraq to Afghanistan theater to set up the hunt for Osama bin Laden.
So now they're telling you about how they're about to stage it.
So that's a real joke.
Schwarzenegger argues for White House run.
And he said that there are so many people in this country that are now from overseas.
They are immigrants.
They are doing such terrific job with their work, bringing businesses here.
There is no reason why not.
Why not I become president?
Because you're a racist scumbag.
Because you're a fat pig.
And more importantly, because you're a foreign agent of a foreign power called the New World Order.
You're a little minion of George Shultz.
And we passed that law, that amendment, and we have that in our Constitution because right at the founding of America, the Austrians got their people in and overthrew the government of Poland using foreigners they got elected.
From Austria, you piece of filth.
You gun-grabbing, open-border-promoting socialist Bush supporter.
So he goes on to say, look at the kind of contribution people like Henry Kissinger have made.
Madeleine Albright, he said, referring to two former secretaries of state who were born in Europe.
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The Berkey Light's unique design combines the age-old process of microporous filtration coupled with modern, state-of-the-art technology and the highest quality materials, bringing you the finest water filter available anywhere.
The revolutionary Berkey Light, with its exclusive black Berkey filter elements, remove pathogenic bacteria, cysts, and parasites to non-detectable levels.
Harmful or unwanted chemicals are reduced to below detectable levels.
And it reduces nitrates and unhealthy minerals like lead and mercury while leaving the nutritional minerals your body needs.
Made of durable Lexan, the material used in making bulletproof glass, the system is durable, rugged, and yet attractive.
The Berkey light is transparent, so there is no guesswork when refilling the system.
The water level is always visible.
The rechargeable LED lighting system is beautiful as a nightlight and as necessary in emergency situations.
Get the Berkey light, the transparent water filter, for only $259 by calling New Millennium at 888-803-4438.
That's toll-free, 888-803-4438.