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Air Date: Feb. 12, 2004
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	Big Brother.
	Mainstream media.
	Government cover-ups.
	You want answers?
	Well, so does he.
	He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
	And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
	Big Thursday Show!
	Lined up for you, it is the 12th day of February 2004.
	I'm Alex Jones, your host.
	In about 30 minutes, we've got the New York Bill of Rights Defense Committee coming on the show.
	Talk about New York under citizen pressure.
	The city, of course, supported the Patriot Act until the citizens got involved and exposed what was in it.
	Coming on, talk about New York throwing it out on Monday, as did St.
	Paul, one of the twin cities up in Minnesota.
	And several more towns and cities in the last three days have also thrown out the Patriot Act.
	I haven't counted up how many cities have now thrown it out in six months or so.
	Six months ago it was 400 plus cities and multiple states.
	And you notice that news item has really disappeared now as this march continues with conservatives and liberals waking up to the Bill of Rights culture and trying to reenact it.
	Also in the second hour, BBC News Night investigative reporter, best-selling New York Times best-selling author, Greg Palast will be on the show, and he exposes Al Gore, George Bush, all of them.
	He's been reporting.
	You've heard about the Pakistan Arms Bazaar.
	Well, he reported before that how the U.S.
	government was helping arm Pakistan and shutting down this story.
	That's right, as usual, arming the enemies so they can proliferate the weapons and destabilize the world, and they can give us the New World Order as the solution to keep us all safe.
	What do radical, racist Mexicans, Osama bin Laden and Bush, have in common?
	They all hate America.
	Remember on Monday we talked about
	That game last week, one of the Olympic qualifying games, where the U.S.
	won, and before the game, the Mexicans were booing the Star-Spangled Banner in Mexico and then chanting, Usama, Usama, Usama.
	Well, at an even bigger tournament in Guadalajara yesterday,
	Guess what happened?
	This was the Associated Press.
	Mexicans scream Osama as U.S.
	Olympic team loses, and they also booed the Star-Spangled Banner yet again.
	So we were predicting, not hard to predict, that that would happen again, and it's happened yet again.
	And these are the people that Bush wants to legalize.
	He wants to get rid of the border.
	But he wants to spy on the American people and outsource our jobs, and it's amazing.
	So more on that coming up.
	Walker pledges Utah will not reconnect with the Matrix system.
	Salt Lake City Tribune, the Matrix tracking grid, some victories against it for now.
	Bush report from the Seattle Times.
	Bush report, sending jobs overseas helps the U.S.
	That's right.
	News analysis, series of weird crimes upsets many Germans.
	We'll get into some of the stuff happening in Germany.
	Cross-border church visit cost man $10,000.
	That's because he's an American citizen.
	75,000 people have AIDS in New York City, according to the United Press International.
	GAO, Pentagon, pays corporate tax evaders.
	As usual, folks, they've been involved in this.
	Police respond to federal lawsuit in drug suite.
	Remember Goose Creek with the dogs attacking the children and the police having everyone put their hands behind their back for the drug search?
	Well, they say that's a good thing they did.
	Deputy charged with stealing cash from motorists.
	We'll get into the Palm Beach Post article there.
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	Big Brother.
	Mainstream media.
	Government cover-ups.
	You want answers?
	Well, so does he.
	He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
	And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
	New York City becomes the largest city in the U.S.
	to oppose the infringement of civil liberties in the name of national security.
	So has St.
	Paul, Minnesota.
	In many other towns and cities this week, we have folks from the Bill of Rights Defense Campaign joining us in about 25 minutes here on the air.
	Then Greg Palast with the BBC, also New York Times bestselling author.
	Talk about how our government is arming and propping up Pakistan and covering up the fact that they've armed our supposed enemies.
	So you don't want to miss these interviews.
	We're also going to have wide-open phones at 1-800-259-9231.
	Let me dive straight into the news.
	In the last segment, I mentioned that I'm sure you've all heard that last week the U.S.
	soccer team in qualifying matches beat the Mexicans in Mexico.
	They were booing the Star-Spangled Banner, chanting Usama, Usama, Usama.
	Because they're idiots and don't know he's a CIA asset and works for the globalists.
	And I just pointed out that Bush, Bin Laden, and racist Mexicans, those that are racist, have one big thing in common, they hate America.
	And there were predictions that with an even bigger qualifying match that had tens of thousands of fans attending, that they would boo again and chant Usama and the Associated Press says that exactly that happened.
	Boo's nearly drowned out the Star Spangled Banner.
	As Mexicans chanted, Usama, Usama, Usama, as Mexico eliminated the United States in Olympic men's soccer qualifying, Tuesday night in Guadalajara, a loud anti-American crowd hollered as Mexico beat the United States 4-0, Tuesday night in the under-23 tournament claiming a berth in the Athens Olympics, the Associated Press reported.
	Citizens of the problem-plagued country, as well as millions of illegal aliens in America, are still in a smit about their 2-0 defeat to the United States in the second round of 2002 World Cup.
	What type of sickos?
	I mean, nobody in the past... We'd have different matches against the Russians during the Cold War.
	They wouldn't boo our national anthem.
	We wouldn't boo theirs.
	Nobody acts like this.
	I mean, this is incredible, number one, to boo during a national anthem, but that's nothing compared to chanting Osama, Osama, Osama, who these ignorant people in Mexico, just like the American people, still believe carried out the attacks.
	He's a CIA asset, but he is evil.
	The point is, they think he did all this, so they're cheering the murder of 2,800 and something people.
	That is disgusting!
	I'm telling you folks, Mexico hates our guts.
	And a lot of people from Mexico don't buy into it, but a lot of them do.
	And our government's helping fund and finance it.
	And this is just a window into the minds of these people.
	And shame on them.
	That's disgusting behavior.
	But don't worry, Bush is with Mexico, getting rid of the borders, spying on Americans, taking away our rights, but oh, giving more rights to all these illegals.
	The establishment loves it.
	Again, the terrorists attacked us because they had our freedom.
	Military industrial complex attacked us because they wanted to have a pretext to take our freedoms.
	And that's exactly what they've done.
	So I guess, Bush, you gave bin Laden what he wanted, didn't you?
	What you wanted.
	That dark cult of evil you talked about that feeds off human suffering.
	No one knows the power of evil.
	Like goodness.
	There's a weird speech he gave at the Pentagon.
	I have that in Road to Tyranny.
	Walker pledges Utah will not
	Reconnect with the Matrix, Salt Lake City Tribune, and it's a total lie.
	Let's read it.
	Governor Walker pledged through her chief of staff that Utah will not reconnect with the controversial anti-terrorism program using billions of government records on citizens without specific approval from the legislature.
	State Chief Gary Doxey said he hopes the vow persuades lawmakers not to rush to
	Now, let me just briefly, because I've got a bunch of news, explain this in 60 seconds.
	Tips, WAVE, SAVE, Total Information, Matrix, all of this is different names for programs of the NSA and its master program called Echelon.
	And so you protest, you demonstrate against Matrix, Total Information Awareness, tips, and they go, okay, we canceled it.
	And then they will actually increase the funding and give it some new name.
	And you start fighting that new name, and they come back.
	Look, all the states have been collecting every piece of data about you you can imagine, buying it from private firms.
	Many firms like Walmart and others just give it to the feds.
	Bookstores, everything.
	It's been going in there for at least 15 years.
	At least 15 years.
	Probably longer.
	And so the governor says, oh no, don't pass a law banning this in the states.
	They can't have a law saying it's illegal because then they'll have to break the law to keep it going.
	They just want to say, okay, we won't do the matrix and then not have a law pass and just change the name.
	So, just so you know, that's what they do.
	You know, we think we have all these victories and we would have victories if we'd fallen through
	But instead we take the form of victory instead of the substance of victory.
	Bush reports sending jobs overseas helps the U.S.
	And this is from the Seattle Times.
	The movement of American factory jobs and white-collar work to other countries is part of a positive transformation that will enrich the U.S.
	economy over time, even if it causes short-term pain and dislocation, the Bush administration said yesterday.
	That's real interesting.
	I thought they said NAFTA and GAAP would cause milk and honey.
	That was, what, 94?
	Ten years ago!
	In fact, the reenactment of NAFTA is coming up this year.
	And they are going to expand under Free Trade Area of the Americas.
	And so it's a wonderful thing.
	I mean, they're even taking the service jobs.
	They'll bring in, pack a house full of illegals,
	And then they have one power bill, one water bill to pay, and they're not on the grid.
	They're not paying taxes.
	And then citizens get displaced.
	Even our service economy is shutting down.
	By the way, new numbers out.
	There's actually more unemployment, more layoffs.
	But the average person says, well, the news says everything's wonderful.
	Well, here's my economic numbers for you.
	Three years ago, you couldn't go anywhere from 6 in the morning until 8.
	7, 8 o'clock at night without being in traffic for over an hour.
	I can drive anywhere I want, even in prime time traffic in 35, 40 minutes.
	About a third of the houses I see are up for sale.
	Most people I know are out of work.
	Just come on.
	Bush Report, sending jobs overseas helps U.S.
	The embrace of foreign outsourcing, an accelerating trend that has contributed to U.S.
	job losses in recent years, has become an issue in the 2004 elections, is contained in the President's annual report to Congress on the U.S.
	economy.
	Outsourcing is just a new way of doing international trade, said N. Gregory Manku, Chairman of Bush's Council of Economic Advisors.
	And he says it's great.
	This is very good.
	Well, then you're going to get more of this wonderfulness then.
	That's so sick.
	Boy, I just don't know where to start here.
	Cross-border church visit cost man $10,000.
	Reuters, a man, a Catholic living up in Canada, I mean up in Maine on the border with Canada, would drive across a little river there every Sunday and multiple times weekly to attend his church service, and they put up a fence there now.
	And they just locked the gate.
	The road's just blocked on Sunday, so he drove around it, and he's been given a $10,000 fine for breaching it.
	But illegal aliens, you can commit murder and you get thrown out of jail.
	It's just very interesting to see that happening.
	They really clamped down that northern border to get out.
	I've talked to folks that have been going in and out of Canada on business.
	Getting out of the country's hard.
	Getting in, absolute piece of cake.
	By the way, the southern border is getting like that.
	Hard to get out.
	Oh, easier than ever to get in.
	That's your freedom.
	Continuing here, 75,000 have HIV, AIDS in New York City, UPI.
	More than 75,000 people in New York City are known to be living with AIDS and are infected with the virus that causes the disease, health researchers reported.
	That's where the government first in the U.S.
	put HIV virus and hepatitis and other shots.
	They got caught doing that.
	We have the official federal documents on that.
	Very serious situation.
	Some countries in Africa, 45% of the population have it.
	And by the way, there was a big BBC article a year ago going, well, people who've never had sex and whose parents don't have it, have it, and then they found it in some of the needles and they don't know how it got there.
	GAO, Pentagon, pays corporate tax evaders, UPI, about 27,100 Defense Department contractors owe the federal government more than $3 billion in unpaid taxes, but the Pentagon continues to hire and pay them with taxpayer money and congressional investigation is found.
	And
	No one's being prosecuted.
	You can steal billions, and there's no problem.
	But you don't fill out a tax form just right, or they lose your tax form, or they just decide they want to randomly audit you.
	Bye-bye for you.
	Bye-bye, baby.
	No judge, no jury.
	Some prison time.
	Report slams airline computer screening in Outer Press International.
	Congressional report to the publisher Friday slams the planning for a controversial new computer screening system designed to identify potential terrorists among airline passengers, saying it has failed a series of tests set by lawmakers.
	Folks, the Caps 2 system is the new national ID card rating system.
	On your driver's license or ID card, they're going to have what you're rated as.
	You understand, according to credit and marriage and misdemeanors and money in the bank, it's all there.
	Matrix system is one of the collection suckers down at the bottom of the tentacles.
	Key activities in the development of the system have been delayed.
	The Transportation Security Administration has not yet completed information systems planning activities, says the draft summer report.
	The damning report may prevent funds of the system, known as the acronym CAPS-2 for Computer Assisted Passenger Prescreening System Phase 2, from passing Congress.
	So Congress isn't worried about the violation of freedom and categorizing Americans.
	They're just worried it isn't being put in quick enough, so...
	A lot more coming up.
	Oh, I haven't even scratched the surface of this news blitz.
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	All right, my friends.
	And a guest from the New York City Bill of Rights defense campaign throwing out the Patriot Act.
	Then Greg Powell is from the BBC.
	Andrew and George and Alan and Brock, we'll get to your calls here in a few minutes.
	FSB were warned about Moscow Metro blast.
	This is out of the Gazette, Moscow Gazette.
	A man who showed up at the Russian embassy in Tbilisi a day before the attack on the Moscow metro warned that a huge terrorist attack would be carried out in the Russian capital and in Stravopol by people he had met in person.
	This information was communicated earlier this week by the Georgian security minister, but the FSB did nothing.
	Folks, the FSB...
	Was caught in 99 planting explosives in a fourth apartment building, and we've got all that posted and done a bunch of shows on it and got all the mainstream news articles at prisonplanet.com in the Russian terror section, and look at who stands to gain from that.
	And the Chechens have said publicly, why would we blow anything up?
	Why would we come to Moscow and bomb you so then you get mad and come attack us?
	This is incredible.
	We're not doing it.
	We have no reason to do this.
	But it's not just common sense.
	It's the evidence of who's done it in the past.
	By the way, that candidate running against Putin, who disappeared last week, showed up yesterday in a satellite of Russia and said that he had gone into hiding because he thought that Putin was after him.
	And one of the other candidates running against Putin has been put in prison, and they've seized other media empires and done that, so I tend to lean towards believing him.
	But again, we just don't know.
	Police respond to federal lawsuit in Drug Suite.
	This is out of the state of South Carolina.
	Remember, hundreds, it was like 150 children.
	Police yelling, cussing at them.
	Put your hands behind your back, get down on the floor.
	Police dogs jumping on them.
	And the Big Brother security cameras picking all this up.
	Goose Creek Police acted in their official capacity.
	And did not violate student constitutional rights during a Stanford High drug sweep during which officers with guns drawn ordered students to the floor according to a response to a federal lawsuit.
	Chief Harvey Becker was engaged in the performance of his official duties and at no time did he violate any clearly established constitutional rights of the plaintiffs which were known or should have been known to the 13-page response filed this week.
	I mean, folks, you've seen the video, at least most of you have.
	I mean, it looked like something from a Supermax prison where they go, where they open all the cell doors and throw everybody out on the ground and start going through things.
	But there were no guns at the prisons.
	Here they're aiming loaded guns at their heads, yelling at them, police dog, jumps up, grabs a pack of a student and starts viciously shaking it, jumps on another student, they're crying, begging.
	They had a police drill in Minnesota two years ago.
	We had the teacher on.
	They went to a portable building.
	Didn't even tell the teacher it was a drill.
	Said, get down on the floor.
	I'll kill you if you don't.
	Then drug her outside.
	Said, walk towards the woods with your hands up.
	She thought she was about to be killed.
	Soiled herself.
	This happens all over the country.
	It's just training us how to be slaves.
	And the filing also said the plaintiffs failed to state the cause of the legal action or, in fact, supporting it.
	The city of Grews Creek Police Department can be sued or held liable.
	And 17 Stanford students sued December, alleging police and school officials terrified them during the November 5th raid, which attracted national attention.
	Well, I've had their lawyer on.
	We've seen the video.
	And no drugs were found.
	And it's just, again, training our students how to be prisoners.
	ID cards, cameras in the classrooms in many schools, cameras in the bathrooms.
	This isn't freedom.
	Here's an article out of the Palm Beach Post.
	Deputy charged with stealing cash from motorists, and he's been charged with pulling them over and taking their wallets and taking the money out of it.
	That's just standard.
	And again, we're not saying all police are bad, but you have criminals, just like you have anywhere else, in government.
	But government then gets this shroud of anonymity and power, and they always bust some little cop who's doing something like this, but then...
	When crime labs systematically frame people and there's industrialized corruption, you know, and massive drug dealing, nobody goes to jail.
	Debate over outsourcing heats up, ignited by election year politics.
	Bush's official economic commission says that chipping jobs overseas is good for the economy.
	This is another article here.
	It says Myra Brostein lost a software job.
	In April, when Bellevue-based Watchmark Common Tail shifted her job and 16 others to a lower-cost operation in India.
	Before Bronstein was let go, the Mercer Island resident was given the choice of either training for Indian replacements or forfeiting a severance package.
	And she chose to train the workers.
	And I've got a lot of friends who get told, we're going to let you go in a few months, train these Indians, and then go back to India.
	Oh, boy.
	I tell you, globalism's wonderful, isn't it?
	We'll be right back.
	We're on the march.
	The empire's on the run.
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	Whoa!
	All right, my friends, it is Thursday, the 12th day of February 04.
	I'm Alex Jones.
	Websites are PrisonPlanet.com and InfoWars.com.
	We've been putting out a lot of new great reports that you definitely want to check out.
	I want to thank the listener that transcribed, the Andres Von Bulow, the former German defense minister, and then, of course, the head minister for the Ministry of Technology.
	He's gone public laying out how The Globalist carried out September 11th, and we have that entire transcript, a perfect tool to email out to people.
	It's riveting, informative reading.
	I guess about 20 pages long.
	You can email that out to your friends, your family, post it on message boards, and if you do that, this story will get legs and get the attention it needs.
	First time we had somebody do a transcript was of Greg Palast.
	Well, that's not true.
	They'd done it for...
	For the guy that brought down the mob in Chicago and helped impeach Bill Clinton, David Shippers, and we had some others out there for Stanley Hilton and others.
	But this is the first transcript that really went worldwide and was published, according to Greg Palast, in hundreds and hundreds of Latin American newspapers, dozens of newspapers in Italy and all over Europe.
	Because we cut right to the heart of the matter to lay out the documentation.
	So go to InfoWars.com or PrisonPlanet.com.
	It's right there at the top of the page at PrisonPlanet.com.
	And get the Andres Rambulo interview.
	And at the bottom of the interview, we also have the audio link where you can hear that interview.
	So help us spread the word on this.
	And I do want to thank the listener who transcribed it.
	It's a great transcript of it.
	Also, before we go to our guests and then your calls, for all those that are patiently holding, loading up the phone lines,
	I have made ten films.
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	New York City, City Council under pressure of the citizenry, left and right,
	Throughout the Patriot Act, St.
	Paul did it as well.
	A bunch of other towns and cities have done it this week.
	It's well over the 150 cities they've been saying for six months have done it.
	It's well over 400.
	And multiple states.
	And joining us is a gentleman, Uday Ofer.
	With the Bill of Rights Defense Campaign, we've got a link to the website, nycbordc.org, at my website.
	And, Uday, thank you for joining us, sir.
	It's good to be on, and it's Udy.
	Udy?
	Yep.
	Udy Ofer.
	Great.
	Okay, great.
	Udy.
	I can hardly pronounce my own name.
	Yeah, it's not an easy name.
	Udy, good to have you on the show.
	And...
	I mean, going over the Patriot Act and the process and how you guys got it thrown out and how other towns and cities can do it, just lay it out for us.
	Yeah, well, first of all, we passed what we call a Bill of Rights Resolution, and it was passed on Wednesday, February 4th, so about a week ago.
	Okay, see, I saw the article on Monday, so I was thinking, oh, it happened Monday.
	Yeah, there's been a bit of a media blackout on this issue, as I'm sure you're well aware of with other issues.
	The resolution calls on government officials to protect and uphold civil liberties and civil rights while prosecuting the so-called war on terrorism.
	The USA Patriot Act, but in addition to that, other government policies through executive directives, departmental regulations and court rulings have had
	You know, have seriously undermined basic fundamental rights and liberties in the United States since 9-11.
	Well, they're going after topless bars, county commissioners, Rush Limbaugh with it.
	Right.
	Yeah, no, it's really, you know, there's been a lot of focus on the USA Patriot Act, but one of the things that, you know, we try to educate people here in New York City is that it's a lot broader than that, and it's just not the Patriot Act.
	Well, it's Patriot Act II, it's Homeland Security, and before Patriot Act II was even passed seven weeks ago, Bush was already implementing.
	Well, Patriot 2 has not been passed.
	One provision of Patriot 2 was passed.
	Well, according to Ron Paul, and I've read the bill, I'd say about 60%, that's what the congressman says, about 60% of Patriot Act 2 has been passed.
	Well, okay, well, he could say that, but...
	I mean, there's one provision, the one that expands the ability of the government to go through your private records.
	That provision was expanded.
	Yeah, no more Fourth Amendment.
	Now, you know, most of the bill is also classified, sir.
	The Intelligence Funding Act of 2004, most of that is secret.
	Well, let's talk about what happened in New York City.
	Yeah, let's talk about it.
	Yeah, it's pretty exciting, because first of all, obviously, as your listeners know,
	No, the majority of the 9-11 attacks happened here.
	Our office is only a few blocks away from Ground Zero, from the World Trade Center, and many of the council members who represent that area voted for this resolution.
	Here in New York City, it was a grassroots effort that, as you said, was joined by both the left and the right, and sort of also not your typical actors.
	We had everyone from
	You know, the New York Public Library Guild, which is the largest library workers' union in the country, to the NAACP, to Bob Barr.
	Bob Barr, actually, from the American Conservative Union, submitted testimony on behalf of the resolution.
	It was a long fight.
	It took about a year to get this resolution passed because there were many council members who felt, you know, like lawmakers are feeling all around the country that if they take a stand for rights, for freedoms,
	In this climate, they're going to be deemed unpatriotic.
	Well, the U.S.
	attorneys also twist their arms, threaten them with not getting their funding, and the feds say, do what we say, or it's going to be your fault when there's another attack.
	That's the big stick they hold.
	Yeah, no, and it's especially true here in New York City.
	I mean, over here, we feel a lot of this pressure.
	The U.S.
	Attorney's Office, I mean, actually, I debate some of the U.S.
	attorneys here in New York City, and it's always
	It's always a heated issue because this is where, you know, this is ground zero for a lot of these issues.
	Many of the U.S.
	attorneys who litigated, you know, the USS Cole bombing, the First World Trade Center bombing, the John Walker Link case, I mean, they all sit over here.
	So then we meet them in debates and it's
	It's interesting, because when you debate them and you get into the specifics of what has been happening to Americans and to people in the United States, because this is not an abstract discussion.
	Well, they've always claimed, and that's a great point, Udi, they're always claiming that, oh, it's only for terrorists, but Section 802 has such a broad definition of H.R. 31.
	62.
	That subsection says that terrorism is any act that endangers human life.
	It's a violation of any federal or state law.
	Yep.
	And that's a great example.
	That's definitely one of the most egregious provisions in the Patriot Act.
	The government says they haven't applied it yet.
	But what we do know is that... That's a lie.
	Yeah.
	The spokesman for the Justice Department, and they have the transcript on the Washington Times, what Mr. Sierra said last year, they will use it in all crimes, they will use it in all investigations.
	Yeah, and this is, you know, that section is part of the reason they actually have the left and the right coming together on this issue.
	Because I think many people on the right realize that the next, let's say, pro-choice administration might use this on the pro-life movement.
	Because, like we said, I mean, it could be read so broadly that anyone from Eleanor Roosevelt to Martin Luther King to just anybody engaged in minor civil disobedience, you know... Well, we just had them subpoenaing people at a peace meeting at a major university.
	Yeah, in Iowa.
	Yeah, so, I mean, they're... And there are more examples.
	In the first three months of 2003, the government labeled 56 cases as terrorism cases.
	And Syracuse University here in New York State did some research into...
	What were those 56 cases?
	And they found out that eight of those cases were the Vieques protesters down in the island of Vieques of Puerto Rico who were protesting the government's use of that island as a military exercise base.
	And as some of your listeners might know, the government is pulling out of there.
	But the arrest of eight of those protesters who locked themselves up to a fence around the military exercise area have been labeled as terrorism cases by the Justice Department.
	Well, I mean, they've been labeling drug cases, gun cases.
	I mean, I have hundreds of these articles.
	Yeah.
	So this is the fear.
	This is the reality of post-9-11 America, that people engage in lawful dissent.
	Probably one of the most American things you could possibly do, criticizing your government, are not being labeled terrorists.
	And this is why there's this tremendous movement...
	We're good.
	And, you know, the resolutions, they take on different forms.
	Like, some of them are purely anti-Patriot Act resolutions.
	Other ones are general.
	Others are against NORTHCOM, Homeland Security, Patriot Act 1 and 2.
	Yeah, so the 250 numbers that I use are the ones that I'm referring to the ones that deal with post-9-11 civil liberties issues.
	And I define that by, you know, Patriot Act, the roundups of Arabism and South Asians, the stifling of free speech.
	Because here in New York City in particular, you know,
	In the weeks after 9-11, we had massive dragnet operations by the FBI and immigration authorities into immigrant neighborhoods where people who just looked like they were Arab or Muslim were basically rounded up, thrown in jail for weeks without charges.
	And beat up?
	Yep, subjected to a pattern of physical and verbal abuse, and that's the language of the Inspector General's Office of the Justice Department.
	It's not our language.
	You know, held for months, for months, on minor things like not filing a change of address within 10 days, and then all, 100%, were cleared of terrorism charges.
	Well, now they're trying to pass a law.
	In fact, it may have even passed.
	They said it was going to pass Monday.
	Where if, when you set up an internet site, and if you don't put your home physical address or your email gets changed or is wrong, seven years in prison or a multi-hundred-thousand-dollar fine.
	Yeah.
	We're seeing, you know, in the name of national security, in the name of fighting terrorism, we're seeing massive changes to our basic constitutional rights in the United States.
	And the lives of thousands of people are being directly impacted by this.
	I mean, we talk all the time to families who, you know, especially Arab and Muslim families who say, you know, my husband went to the local grocery store, you know, a month after 9-11.
	I didn't see him for six, seven months, you know, later, because somehow he got picked up on the street for walking around
	Meanwhile, Bush flies 144 members of the Bin Laden family out the afternoon of 9-11 when all of their air traffic is grounded.
	Yeah, that's a great example.
	I'm happy that you're talking about this, but unfortunately most of the media in this country just hasn't picked this up.
	You have articles in the major mainstream press on the Patriot Act and things like that, but it's still...
	They don't humanize it yet.
	Well, when you hear about the Patriot Act, it's people are complaining about some surveillance rules to keep you safe, and it's only for terrorists.
	Look, look, look.
	I keep using the Las Vegas Review-Journal example, and literally, sir, I have hundreds of examples.
	Las Vegas Review-Journal, a topless bar who may have paid a county commissioner for favorable zoning, and they use the Patriot Act?
	I mean, that has nothing to do with terrorism.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, and this is one of the arguments we were able to get on a lot of council members here in New York City to get on board with our movement when we educated them that, you know what, so much of this has nothing to do with terrorism.
	Now, you know when Bush blows something else up, Udi, that...
	That they're going to say, oh, it's your fault, now shut up.
	We're going to arrest those.
	They've got national talk show hosts that say if you criticize the government, you should be arrested because you're aiding the terrorists.
	You should be put in a camp.
	The head of NORTHCOM says that the troops are going to take over our lives.
	The outgoing head of CENTCOM, Tommy Frank, said we're going to go to martial law for the next attack.
	Were you aware of that stuff?
	You know, I'm definitely not on NORTHCOM and other, you know, things like that, an expert of that.
	But what I do know, and a fear that we have here at the ACLU almost every day, is what will happen if, you know, there's another terrorist attack?
	Like, what's going to be the government's response?
	Well, that's an interesting point you made, because, you know, you're obviously with the ACLU and then also working with the Bill of Rights Defense Campaign.
	The ACLU didn't seem too worried about the police state stuff under Bill Clinton.
	And I just want to point out that the conservatives and libertarians have stood up against Bush.
	And I would hope if we get Bush's skull and bones peapod buddy in there, that when he's pulling all this, you guys are going to be just as active.
	Well, I definitely will.
	Because I've got to tell you, a lot of the powers that the Bush administration is using right now were actually passed into law during the Clinton era.
	And I'll be the first one to say that.
	And I've got to tell you, too, I don't view this as a Republican-Democrat issue.
	I really don't.
	Let's not forget that it was Franklin D. Roosevelt that ordered the internment of Japanese Americans during World War II.
	And by the way, most of them never got their property back.
	Yeah.
	So whenever I speak publicly on this issue, I always make the point that
	I don't view this as a Republican-Democrat issue at all.
	You talk about people not knowing.
	You need to read the Cigar Aficionado article from December where the outgoing head of CENTCOM says, if we're attacked again, we're going to set aside the Constitution for a military form of government.
	The people are going to demand it.
	Is that not chilling?
	It's very chilling.
	One of the points that I try to get across is that
	You know, this is not the first time the United States is in a time of crisis.
	And this is not the first time that the government is feeding us a line that say, we need to suspend the Constitution in order to preserve our freedoms.
	America isn't America if we don't have those freedoms and liberties in the Bill of Rights.
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	I know that Andrew and George and Alan and Brock and Michael have been holding.
	Let's try to get to all of you in the next two segments.
	Andrew in Texas, go ahead.
	You're on the air.
	Hi, Alex.
	First off, real quick, I wanted to get Oliver North's email.
	I wondered if you had that handy.
	No, he hung up.
	We didn't get it from him.
	Okay.
	But I can get in touch with his publisher, I guess, and get it.
	Okay.
	And also, I was wondering if you were aware of the Hurricane Andrew cover-up theories.
	Or anything about that?
	No, I'm not.
	Okay, well, what the public record is that South Dade County was not evacuated, okay?
	And once everybody was hit, relief aid was not allowed into the county for 10 days.
	I knew about that, yeah.
	Okay, and so that's the question is why?
	Why were they doing that for 10 days while Kate Hale...
	Who was in charge of South Dade County relief efforts.
	Not federally.
	That was Andrew Card at the time, the Secretary of Transportation.
	Three words as to why they did that.
	It was migrant labor camps.
	Thousands of people apparently died.
	Witnesses have come forward saying that they helped to recover the bodies that they witnessed.
	I have Associated Press articles where over the last 10 years they've built hundreds of these migrant labor camps.
	Where they, quote, arrest people and put them in there later.
	And, yeah, that's why they love illegal alien labor.
	That's why they've got 20,000 illegal Mexicans they made legal over in Iraq, because when they die, they just go in the dirt.
	Right.
	So where I found out about this, the woman, a Hurricane Andrew survivor, wrote a book about it entitled Where Heavens Meet, and her name is K.T.
	Frankovich.
	Where heavens meet.
	All right, I'll try to get her on.
	Yeah, and especially Kate Hale.
	If you could find Kate Hale, we're trying to find her, and she was in charge.
	And on the sixth day that they prevented relief going into that county, she was in front of the entire press junket flying into hysterics because nobody would provide relief, and they're having more casualties.
	All right, well, thank you.
	A lot of that weird stuff has happened with hurricanes, but I don't really know the specifics.
	George, George, where are you calling us from?
	Sorry.
	Oh, hi there.
	Calling you from Ontario.
	Welcome from Canada.
	Go ahead.
	I'll make a quick comment there about your last caller that was slightly off topic for me, but it's a warning from Thomas Paine.
	He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression.
	For if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself.
	So when you hang your enemy, you do it with a rope around your own neck.
	And I hope a lot of people that react emotionally to the news that is fabricated keep that very much in mind.
	But what I called you about was, I came across an excellent book called Gold Warriors.
	It's written by Sterling and Peggy Seagrave.
	And it's all about the loot that the Japanese took in World War II.
	They stumbled on some files accidentally while they were researching the Hirohito family in a previous book.
	Alex, you can't believe how much money was pilfered by these people.
	Fifteen mine loads in the Philippines.
	And the American administration at the time, the usual suspects in conspiracy, were responsible for liberating this money and making it disappear.
	As one example, in 1960, Richard Nixon gave 35 billion U.S.
	dollars to a man who became Prime Minister of Japan, who signed the Declaration of War against your country.
	This money, they only use the interest off this money.
	They still have the principal.
	And when you read about the people that were involved, the gangsters, drug dealers, war criminals... Well, I know this.
	$1.2 trillion is missing over the Clinton administration and now the Bush administration.
	And about 40% of that money has disappeared just while Bush has been in for three and a half years.
	I mean, it is wholesale looting.
	To an extent that I couldn't even believe.
	I'm not familiar with the whole Japan thing, but I know that's why they love war, because there's so much clandestine stuff that can happen.
	Exactly.
	And it's a terrible shame, Alex, that that show we were on in Toronto, Cloak & Dagger, was taken off the air.
	And it's still an Internet show, cloakanddagger.ca.
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	Alan in Texas.
	Alan, go ahead.
	Good to talk to you, Alan.
	You're on the air.
	I hope your previous guest is still listening, because I wanted to talk for a minute about the city's resolutions for the Patriot Act.
	And I first would like to highlight this.
	There was a buddy of mine, I was delivering my wheatgrass down there on Barton Springs Drive, and one of the kids that runs that shop told me that he was walking into a travel agency and got called outside by four police officers, which pulled him aside, interrogated him about who he is, where he lives, what his phone number is,
	What are you doing here in this travel agency?
	I think I was just taking care of personal business.
	And the kid says, well, wait a minute.
	This is over the top.
	Why are you guys asking me all these questions?
	And I said, well, we saw you jogging across the crosswalk over there.
	Now, that spurred me.
	I called up, actually I emailed Mayor Pro Tem Goodman to ask her what sort of action had been taken on the resolution against the Patriot Act.
	To ensure that those resolves were followed up on, what kind of bite is there in this resolution?
	I got back a full-page letter.
	She must be able to type really fast, and bless her heart, she's a great woman.
	It said nothing.
	So I called the police department to ask what the community relations... Listen, when you sign a credit card form now, when you get a bank account, when you're going anywhere, it's all Patriot Act.
	Patriot Act.
	We're going to give your info to the government.
	When you buy stuff out of catalogs, it's just all these big corporations are lining up with the Caps 2 system.
	Go ahead.
	Okay, we need to move to the solution now.
	Now, these resolutions... What did he say to these police?
	He just was like...
	He was just stunned.
	What have I done?
	Why are you doing this?
	And they said, oh, we're just acting on orders of the Homeland Security Act.
	Now, this was after the resolution was passed.
	So I followed up.
	When the council members were discussing this,
	A lot of their conversation was about, well, what does this mean?
	Now, understand, that's like Nazi Germany where, let me see your papers.
	Why are you going in there?
	Right.
	Now, you said earlier in your show today, you know, we think we've made progress, but then either nothing has happened or it gets worse.
	Okay, we cannot stop with a resolution on the Patriot Act.
	We're going to need, and every one of these cities, I hope your listeners will take action on this, we're going to need hearings to talk about
	City law.
	And to get that started, you can go sign up for your three minutes, take ten of your friends, sign up and go, hey, that young man needs to go down there and say, hey, I walked in a travel agency and they were asking me what I'm doing.
	I mean, what is this?
	The secret police milling around the street.
	If they pass these resolutions and have nothing to follow it up with, the police department, they sound like they were just laughing at me.
	What do you mean?
	Do we have any kind of a monitoring system on...
	Oh, so you talked to the police department?
	I talked to them also.
	Well, you know, if we've got federal...
	Right.
	The CIA wanting to move into our police departments.
	Oh, that's been in the news.
	The CIA is setting up officers.
	The legislation's up there.
	But if we have a local resolution that cannot prevent them from doing that by making it illegal, punishable, by violating city law, and if the county law is the only, if our sheriff is the only guy who can really keep the feds out, they need to be on the bus.
	I hear you, sir.
	Good points.
	We're going to have to follow up all of these cities, and we're going to have to get legislation to put teeth in the resolve.
	Well, thanks for calling.
	You're welcome.
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	About a week and a half ago, it came out that Pakistan, our little buddies with the dictatorship there,
	Same folks that stage fake bombings against the president as an excuse to crack down on their population.
	They do the same stuff Bush does.
	It came out that some of their top scientists had been going around selling key nuclear weapons components.
	Or it's being alleged to foreign countries.
	Well, our government, ABB board member Rumsfeld, I mean, Clinton allowed it, but Rumsfeld did it, arming North Korea.
	Laurel Hughes, these big Republican contributors going and arming China.
	They've been in there helping build up Pakistan, which is just totally nuts.
	I mean, Pakistan is more unstable and crazy than Iran or Syria.
	I mean, they're good guys compared to these people.
	And then it turns out, as usual, Greg Palast...
	Best-selling author, New York Times best-selling author of The Best Democracy Money Can Buy and BBC Newsnight investigative journalist is Greg Pallast.
	And it turns out, Conjob, Bush-spiked probe of Pakistan's nuclear mad scientist.
	And joining us is Greg Pallast.
	Greg, good to have you on.
	Directly with you again, Alex, and obviously what people were just hearing this week on CNN and the rest of the American media, they would have heard already on your program, because I remember speaking with you last, when my book was released in the USA, The Best Democracy Money Can Buy.
	It's about six, seven months ago.
	Yeah, almost nine months ago.
	And thanks to your good work, by the way, it went to the New York Times bestseller list.
	But in that book at page 100, I just wanted to remind you, we had spoken about the fact that Pakistan was giving out nuclear secrets.
	I specifically named Dr. Khan the Dr. Strange Love of Pakistan.
	But there's something that has not been discussed on CNN that we discussed, and I want to bring it back a little extra.
	In...
	In 2001, before the September 11th attack, our president's national security agencies ended, hindered, stopped the investigation of Dr. Khan, the Dr. Strangelove of Pakistan.
	And it was the same thing with the bin Laden?
	It was part of the same directive that came out of, and that was in the book, and we had discussed it.
	What happened was,
	I was sitting, it was a very chilling call, I've got to tell you, Alex.
	I was sitting in BBC headquarters in London, and despite the recent attacks, we're still the main news outlet on this planet, the biggest news network on the planet.
	And we got a call from inside the national security apparatus of our government, the DIA-CIA complex, and a top operative told us,
	That investigations were being spiked and hindered.
	And that was the W199I story?
	Yes, that was one part of it.
	See, the reason we got that call is that the FBI, just so you know the W199I story, that means a national security document, a secret document.
	We got a hold of a fax, a copy of a secret document, which said that the investigation of the Bin Laden family in the United States, two members of that Bin Laden family, that
	FBI agents were not allowed to go ahead with that investigation until September 13, 2001, two days after the attack, and these guys, of course, had flown.
	But the FBI, just so you know, the FBI's response to us was not that this document wasn't authentic.
	The FBI, given every opportunity, has never challenged the authenticity of the document.
	What they said to us was there are things we have to do for national security that the public may not understand.
	Okay.
	And so I decided, well, I'd like to understand it.
	And their second excuse was that these were low-level agents.
	Who basically had flipped these documents to us, and they didn't understand why they were pulled off the case.
	But they didn't understand the big picture.
	So we decided we'd better go to the top guys.
	An investigation that included the supposed hijackers, the money men, all of it.
	Well, yeah, the investigation is into the guys who were running what was considered a terrorist front organization.
	You should know this terrorist front organization that they identified was...
	They had members of their staff.
	A member of their staff was the guy who was carrying the tapes from Osama bin Laden to Al Jazeera TV saying, you know, we got you and we're going to come and get you again.
	These are the guys, right?
	And I'll just say it, the CIA bag man
	You know, all I can tell you is what I got, which is the file that said you can't look at these members of the Bin Laden family in the United States until, of course, they've left after the attack.
	Well, I want to digress for a second.
	Remember Colin Powell last year, right before the war?
	He goes, no, Bin Laden is with Saddam.
	Al Jazeera is airing the tape right now, and all the media ran out to go watch Al Jazeera and came back and said, no, it's not.
	He goes, oh, it'll be on in a few hours.
	Boy, they sure know when this guy they've been protecting is going to bring the tapes in.
	Yeah, and what's very interesting is that when we got this call, I said, look, he said that there was a major shift in U.S.
	intelligence policy at the very top.
	This is the top operative.
	And he said it has hindered certain investigations.
	This guy was like, you can imagine, intensely nervous.
	And we had his identity confirmed to us.
	By National Security News Service, which is a terrific investigations outfit.
	And he said, look, and I said, look, you have to tell me specific investigations that were halted by this administration.
	I can't just go on the air and say, even if I just say on the air that it's general, you have to tell me specifically what investigations were spiked.
	And he said, con labs.
	Now, I didn't know Khan.
	I have to tell you, I didn't know Khan Labs.
	I thought he meant like something in Connecticut.
	Then I look it up.
	Khan Labs is Dr. Abdul Khan, A.Q.
	Khan of Pakistan.
	The nuclear manufacturing and research lab in Pakistan is called Khan Laboratories.
	And as it turns out, what happened was they had stopped that investigation.
	Now, why?
	The answer is twofold.
	First...
	Because our president was going steady with his dictator boss, this guy, Pervez Musharraf, the dictator of Pakistan.
	We didn't want to annoy the dictator of Pakistan.
	Even more, and this has not come out in the news again either, is that according to our intelligence services, the initial money, we know that Khan sold secrets to North Korea and to Libya and to Iran.
	But the initial money appears to have come from Saudi Arabia for Pakistan to build the so-called Islamic bomb.
	And our agents were telling us, all these agents at many levels were telling us, you cannot investigate Saudi Arabian financing of terror networks or nuclear proliferation.
	You can't look at the Saudis.
	Because that brings you back to the bin Laden family, and when you get back to the bin Laden family, you get back to the family...
	Which has, you know, financially backed the Bush family.
	And you get back to beady-eyed Bush and the Carlyle Group and the rest of them.
	Right.
	Now, as you know, right now we have a very, very unusual situation, Alex.
	So, first of all, obviously this still hasn't come out.
	So, first, our newspapers are saying, and I was just sickened, by the way, to watch CNN.
	In fact, I even pulled the transcript because I thought it was just so amazing what they're telling us.
	Oh, by the way, Bush began his speech yesterday, our president, by saying, I see my friend George Shultz, a distinguished public servant and true patriot with us.
	George Shultz, by the way, was the head of Bechtel Corporation.
	And he's Bush's main handler.
	Right.
	And as head of Bechtel, they're the guys who... They're number two after Halliburton in terms of cleaning up on these Iraq contacts.
	He's a true patriot, sucking in those billions.
	Yeah, direct pipelines of pure cash going directly into their fat bellies, no bids allowed.
	Well, that's how you know he's a distinguished servant and true patriot.
	But he said, also...
	Anyway, Bruce Hume says, now we know that once the administration has established that everything was true regarding Pakistan's bomb, they pressed the dictator Musharraf to crack down on this and deal with Dr. Khan.
	No, they stopped it.
	The only reason, by the way, the game blew up and became public is this was a little game played by Gaddafi.
	When he decided to switch sides and join together with the oil companies in America and kind of switch sides, now he's our dictator, right?
	Gaddafi's still a brutal, vicious dictator.
	Well, this is 1984.
	I mean, Greg, this is 1984.
	He's always bad.
	He's always evil overnight.
	He's now good.
	He's all good.
	Did they have elections there that I didn't know about?
	Alex, I thought we were bringing democracy to the Middle East.
	It looks like what they're doing is bringing us new oil contracting.
	I mean, Gaddafi's not talking about democracy.
	He's just cutting the deal with us.
	But as kind of, I think, his little practical prank was to say, oh, by the way, I thought I'd tell you who gave me some of the bomb secrets.
	This guy from Pakistan.
	Well, that's what Saddam did, and they had special forces troops go into the UN office, steal, and this was on the news, grab, what, 8,000 pages of the documents, and then Saddam released another copy, and guess what?
	It was U.S.
	and British companies.
	That's right.
	And so what you have is,
	And I'm stunned at this, because we reported this, just so you know, that this story about Dr. Khan and his bomb, and the story about Bin Laden family as well, and spiking these investigations, this was page one news all over the planet, reported by BBC in November of 2001.
	Okay, so we're talking...
	We're good.
	The Project Censored Award from the Journalism School means that you have reported one of the most important stories on the planet, but it wasn't shown in the USA.
	I got one of those this year.
	You know, it's like you're talking about 40 countries running this story.
	I'm talking page one and not a word in the U.S.
	And now we get Dr. Khan, oh, we found this bad guy.
	But what they're leaving out is how come the Bush administration, which had this information, like I say, according to our information, they spiked the investigation, but they still had plenty on this guy.
	They never went after, they never went after this guy.
	And now that it's come out, they're going, oh boy, this is bad, let's do something.
	We'll be right back.
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	If you read his articles, his book, you'll find stuff out months, years before it finally trickles out in fragments in the mainstream media.
	And really, it's just called old-fashioned work.
	And you have our government, knowing that Pakistan was proliferating nuclear weapons components, key stuff, and nothing goes on in that country that the government isn't sanctioning.
	They're arming North Korea, North Korea's arming them, they're trying to sell stuff to Iran, everybody else.
	And the military-industrial complex really likes this, folks.
	It was our government that helped arm Russia.
	And they just burned the Rosenbergs as their patsies, because then they can have big weapons systems and keep the war going.
	This is scary, and...
	Greg Palast, for those that just joined us that don't understand the players, boil it down for people in just a couple minutes what we're looking at and why this is so important.
	Because I don't want to just glaze over each one of these bombshell facts you've been laying out here.
	Thank you, Alex.
	By the way, I want to thank you because while I am on the biggest network on the planet, my stuff is virtually blacked out in the United States except on your program.
	I really appreciate this opportunity to bring the information that's page one everywhere else on the planet.
	I really thank you, and I hope people realize how special and important this is to have this different outlet, which is not.
	Alex has not been afraid to let me report all the news that I discover.
	Now, I should mention, so to begin with, in November of 2001, FBI agents...
	Came to us at BBC Television and the research groups we were working with, CIA, DIA officials, low-level, high-level, many, all complaining about the same thing, that before September 11th, they were not allowed to really hunt down terror networks and their alliances in the United States itself and in Pakistan, and most particularly the connections back to Saudi Arabia and the bin Laden family and other countries.
	Saudi funders of terror.
	Now, you have to understand, and what they said was, when we were asked what specific investigations were killed, we were told one, the investigation killed of the bin Laden family members in the United States, and the second, Khan Laboratories, which is basically running a carpet bazaar in nuclear secrets out of Pakistan.
	And again, because the idea was not to disturb the Saudi money,
	Now, one thing that should be very important and part of this discussion, the victims of September 11th, their families, the families of the victims of the September 11th attack, have sued the defense minister of Saudi Arabia for funding these characters.
	Connection.
	This is the same guy that our information says was funding first Saddam Hussein and then later Pakistan to build an atomic bomb.
	His lawyer...
	His lawyer is a guy named James Baker III, who is also the senior counsel to Carlyle Group, who is also counsel to ExxonMobil Oil Corporation.
	And former Secretary of State.
	Former Secretary of State and counsel to George Bush, our president, in the Florida election count.
	He now has an office.
	This man who represents the Saudi Arabian Defense Ministry, Exxon,
	Yeah, at least Clinton did it with the Chinese spies down the road at the Commerce Department.
	Right, right, what you wanted to keep them off-site.
	And in fact, if you remember, Henry Kissinger had to run away from the September 11th committee because he wouldn't reveal his clients or get rid of his conflicts.
	So why hasn't James Baker been required to do the same?
	And the answer is, he has been appointed to so-called reorganize Iraq's debts for the Iraqis, right?
	They didn't ask for his help.
	But technically he wasn't appointed by our president, but appointed by the puppet government that our president has installed in Iraq.
	So he does not have to go through a Senate confirmation hearing.
	He doesn't have to reveal his conflicts.
	He doesn't have to end his conflicts.
	He still represents Saudi Arabia against the victims of September 11th.
	And he's got an office in the White House.
	In the meantime, our agencies are still covering for the fact that this madman, Dr. Strangelove, Dr. Khan of Pakistan, was in fact being funded by...
	By the Saudis.
	So anyway, I've got to get off because I have another call I have to make.
	This is Greg Palast reporting for Alex Jones.
	What a pleasure.
	By the way, I've got a new CD out with this information, and Alex, I'm going to talk to you about that and maybe tell people about that tomorrow, okay?
	God bless you, Greg Palast.
	Thanks for that report and take care.
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	He's going to be joining us next week, perhaps tomorrow, for a full hour.
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	We're about to go to Moroccan Michael and Joe, Tom, Ron, and many others that are patiently holding.
	But again, hidden in plain view, they protect Pakistan, they protect the fact they're proliferating nukes.
	Pakistan's got them.
	I mean, the uranium, the parts, all of it.
	Bush is hooked in with the Karaw group, the Bin Ladens, the Saudi royalty doing all this.
	And meanwhile, they go into Iraq for somebody that doesn't have 5% of what Pakistan's got.
	And we're setting this precedent where all these other countries can have nukes, North Korea, Pakistan, Israel, everybody else, South Africa, you know, they got nukes, oh yeah.
	Estimated to have over a hundred of them.
	But that's all okay, Japan's redeveloping nuclear weapons, that is rearming, developing them, publicly saying they're developing them.
	But now they want to go into Syria and Iran.
	They bring this new story out.
	Instead of going, hey, why did Bush protect the Pakistani scientists and the government?
	It's, oh, Syria and Iran may have gotten some of this.
	Let's invade them!
	Now, let's not invade the country that did it.
	And I just... These stories are so huge.
	The bravado of the Bush administration.
	I mean, Bush on his military records...
	We have his military records.
	The media has had them.
	The Boston Globe has written about them.
	So has the Associated Press.
	And Bush goes, fine, I'll release them.
	They were already released.
	They've expunged some of them, but the documents we have have already been out there for months.
	We've been reporting on them here ad nauseam.
	And Bush says, they show I did my duty.
	Well, he knows 99.9% of you are never going to go read the documents, 35 pages of them like I did.
	Or like the Boston Globe did, and they could just say, oh, that's just liberals, you know, the documents show I did my duty.
	They don't show that.
	But it's the bravado of, they show I did my duty.
	And with them producing these pay stubs, when it shows he's gone for 21 months, wow, that's even worse.
	His Congress member, CIA Director Dowdy, really got the strings pulled.
	The guy was grounded.
	He didn't take his flight test.
	He didn't take his drug test.
	Didn't do any of it.
	Just disappeared.
	And then Bush tries to inject this spin that, well, don't talk bad about the guard.
	Nobody was talking bad about the guard.
	Now all the neocons are, yeah, I was in the guard.
	How dare you?
	I've got friends I've talked to who know about the new order, and they go, well, don't put down the guard, Alex.
	You know, Bush likes me.
	He kind of said, he's with me, and don't talk...
	They get you to associate yourself with them.
	It's like Clinton.
	I talk to a liberal about, well, Clinton's a criminal, a traitor, and they go, I just like him.
	He's like my father.
	I feel strong because I'm with him.
	And then Fox News had that report with their psychiatrist going, well, I've been talking to my...
	My clients, and they're conservative, and they're all very depressed that Bush has betrayed them on immigration.
	They feel like he's their father.
	I mean, this is a real trend, folks.
	People identify with Hollywood, politicians, famous people, and they have like little psychological, imaginary relationships with them.
	I don't even know what I can say to this wall of lies.
	This is a government that plants fake letters from troops in major newspapers with false signatures.
	I mean, this is a government that lies about mobile weapons trucks.
	And Bush said again that Saddam had mass graves in his Meet the Press interview.
	Well, we found the mass graves.
	And Iran was the one that said no.
	The UN inspected that place in 1992.
	We send trucks multiple times monthly exchanging dead Iraqis we dig up that have been covered by sands, and we exchange them for dead Iranians.
	That's why it was boxes of bones and sand pouring out.
	I'm not saying Saddam didn't torture and kill people.
	He was trained by the CIA and put in by the CIA and told to attack Iran and told to attack Kuwait and all of this.
	The point is that they're liars, and they're still telling the lies.
	All right, we'll go to the calls here in about a minute and a half.
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	I could only guess that this fiasco in Iraq is all about money and keeping the military-industrial complex grinding.
	That's a large part of it.
	It's also about $4 trillion in oil there, $3 trillion in Afghanistan.
	It's about setting up a police state here domestically.
	It's about a lot of things.
	And John Kerry and George Bush, they're both skull and bones men.
	So would the policy of skull and bones men be just keep wars everywhere because that's how they were trained and their mindsets at that university?
	One thing that's accurate in the movie Skulls, and again, this is admitted, is they have a room called the War Room, and this was built 172 years ago, folks.
	They have a room, and on the wall is war, and they pray to Satan that they believe Lucifer's God to give them power as captains, as kings, as pirates, to wage war upon the cattle.
	And we're all seen as the cattle.
	And they have these war chants they do.
	And yes, it's all about war.
	You've got these distant relations.
	They say third cousins.
	Lord Bush.
	And Lord Kerry, in the same secret society, both with the same answer, so secret we can't talk about it, this proves it's WWF wrestling, Shakespearean theater, there is no presidential election, you can forget the electronic voting machines, that doesn't even matter, because the two candidates are from the same generational cult.
	Yes, and I think that it'll probably be Kerry, because that will deflect some of the stuff that's slowly coming out about Bush.
	And then they can shift back over, and then the left will suddenly love the Patriot Act and all that's happening.
	But let me say this.
	I said over a year ago that I thought Kerry would be the nominee.
	Folks thought I was nuts.
	I then have said that I believe George Bush will be the next president.
	And, you know what, it doesn't matter either way, frankly.
	Though, if Kerry gets in, neocons will finally wake up and become conservatives again.
	Because, you know, if Kerry tries to get rid of borders, sign assault weapons bans, arm communist Chinese, he'll get heat.
	Now, this is all conservative now under Bush, and I'm liberal because I'm pro-gun.
	And I'm being serious here, folks.
	But I personally think when Bush looked at it and said, I'm not going to lose.
	And he had total confidence there.
	The demonic elf beady-eyedness disappeared, and he looked like a man.
	And he said, I'm not going to lose.
	See, I know where I'm going to lead.
	It was very cryptic.
	But again, I could be wrong, but if need be, they got the voting machines in, but if Kerry gives them, it's staged.
	I can't get it inside their minds, but it'll probably be in 08, Kerry and Hillary Clinton as vice presidents.
	That's what you'll probably see.
	That's why Hillary's hanging back right now.
	But it could be John Kerry.
	Go ahead.
	And I was also going to say, are there weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, or have they been carefully maneuvered, or what is the story there?
	Do they exist?
	Well, they'll exist if they want them to.
	Well, they could have produced them any time they wanted to.
	They tried to bring out fake examples, but with Show Shoddy, they got caught.
	And a lot of that is because the troops aren't evil.
	And they don't have a lot of ground operators.
	The global has controlled the big banks and the media and systems.
	They don't control the rank and file.
	They have to control them through brainwashing.
	And it just doesn't seem to be working.
	And there's so many people in NSA, defense intelligence, FBI, CIA that are good, that are leaking all this.
	That's why they haven't moved faster.
	They're in a lot of trouble.
	We're in this fight.
	I'm an inch down to the 12th round, heavyweight boxing, the people against the New World Order, both sides have got eyes full shut, blood pouring out, loose teeth, and I'm telling you, we better fire up and fight even harder to win this thing or we're about to get KO'd.
	Well, they are definitely winning, and credit to you for the good work you're doing.
	I just wonder, you know, do those weapons of mass destruction exist?
	They do if they want them to, but I wonder what... Well, they know... Well, see, we have to make the UN be the good cops.
	We have to embarrass America.
	We do the work of the bankers, and we get the blame.
	And then the UN plays the part of the good guys.
	Thanks for the call.
	Thank you.
	But we know they exist in Syria.
	We know they exist in Pakistan.
	And my weapons of mass destruction, folks, I mean, they consider any chemical weapon a weapon of mass destruction.
	But everybody's got them.
	And we know Syria's got some of that.
	But nothing compared to other countries around them.
	We know Pakistan has the nuke and medium-range missiles.
	And they can go, what, 2,500 miles.
	I guess I shouldn't say medium range.
	Intermediate range is the proper term.
	Let's go ahead and talk to...
	Let's talk to Michael in Texas.
	Go ahead, Michael.
	Hi, Alex.
	I was wondering if you're familiar with the book Patriots by James Wesley Rawls.
	Yeah, it's a great book.
	I was wondering if you are ever going to get him on your talk show.
	What happened is, about four years ago, I was going to get him on.
	A big news story came up.
	I canceled the poor guy.
	And then I've always meant to contact him and get him on.
	I just hadn't done it.
	But I apologize for doing that.
	I forget what it was.
	It was a big news day.
	A lot of times I cancel guests.
	You just never know about it because a bunch of stuff comes up.
	I just go, that's it.
	I'm not taking guests.
	But, yeah, I want to get him back on, or get him on.
	I think that would be great, because I'm not trying to brag or anything.
	I've been aware of the New World Order for 11 years already, since Waco woke me up.
	Well, good.
	And I'm only 25.
	And you make some pretty interesting points about a U.N.
	federal collaboration after martial law was declared.
	Yeah, that's going to be how it works.
	Yeah, that's the setup with the Southwest and all that, yeah.
	And he talks about...
	United European troops coming over here and enforcing UN law?
	Well, I'll tell you who talks about that now is General McKenzie at the UN on Nightline, the current Chairman and Joint Chiefs of Staff.
	Wesley Clark has given briefings saying that two years ago.
	They are getting ready for martial law and firing troops.
	They say, quote, if our troops are tied down in the war on terror overseas, foreign assets will be used to secure the homeland.
	That's the current Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman's quote.
	By the way, your tapes, 9-1-1, The Road to Tyranny, and The Masters of Terror, as well as Bohemian Grove, I have been selectively giving them to people I think that could think for themselves, and it has been waking them up.
	Thanks for the call.
	Good.
	I think everybody's a little awake subconsciously, but these push you out into the conscious mind and real intelligence.
	Let's go ahead and talk to Joe in Arkansas.
	Joe, welcome.
	Thank you, Alex.
	I wanted to tell you what I was told when I called to the detention center in Sheridan, Wyoming yesterday where Carl Klein was being held.
	And that's the Patriot musician?
	Yes.
	And so I asked why they were holding him, and I was told it was a destruction of property charge.
	And I asked, isn't it usual for somebody to be out on bail pretty soon?
	You know, on a charge like this, is he going to be out on bail pretty soon?
	And the man told me that yes, that there was going to be a court hearing about it.
	And by the way, he's been in there two months and nine days now, and he was arrested.
	They told us on the phone, the district attorney's office, or county attorney, excuse me, they said that he was arrested for trespassing, and then he did something in the jail for a destruction of property charge, but...
	Again, and they've been doing some type of psychological evaluation, and two months and nine days for trespassing.
	Yeah, so I was told by this man, I don't know if he was lying or not, but I was told that he was going to have some kind of a court hearing around the end of the week.
	So we'll see.
	That's what we were told.
	We were told Friday.
	Really?
	Mm-hmm.
	Okay, that's about all I have right now.
	Thanks, Alex.
	Hey, thank you.
	I appreciate the call, Joe.
	Does anybody have comments about our government?
	More than what Pallas was saying, not just allowing them to arm enemies and protecting them and calling FBI off the investigation, but U.S.
	companies have been selling them the goodies, as well as the Europeans.
	That's been allowed to come out in our news, but not that our government's doing it.
	But, I mean, who's the terror threat?
	Our government protecting those arming our enemies with nuclear weapons?
	Or...
	When a young teenager walks into a travel agency and the police run it after him and say, who are you?
	Are you a terrorist?
	This is the Patriot Act.
	We have to ask these questions.
	The Patriot Act being used against county commissioners, topless bars, pot dealers, Rush Limbaugh, is that what we're supposed to be doing here?
	No, the answer is no.
	But that's where it's all focused.
	It's focused on you.
	You're the terrorist.
	I just want you to understand that.
	Homeschoolers, Christians, gun owners, environmentalists, left, right, doesn't matter.
	Anybody who doesn't lick boots properly and doesn't want to be a little mindless idiot slave is being caught in this net.
	The good news is folks are waking up.
	Tom in Colorado, thanks for holding.
	Go ahead.
	Hi, thanks, Alex.
	This is probably off topic, but I came across another example of... Sir, there's no topic.
	We're all over the map on this show.
	Go ahead.
	Okay.
	I came across another example of hidden in plain view years ago.
	I saw, you're probably familiar with David Icke.
	I've had him on the show.
	Okay, yeah, he's done a lot of research on symbolism.
	And seeing your recent video on the website jogged my memory about this, that the streets around the White House are actually in the shape of an owl.
	Well, it's an owl inside a giant pentagram, and the owl's belly is the Capitol building.
	I think it's at his mouth, actually.
	Yeah, it's the White House's belly.
	And then the owl's genitalia is the giant obelisk.
	Oh, I didn't know that.
	And by the way, they admit it's laid out.
	I was watching some PBS special.
	It must have been eight years ago.
	It was a long time ago.
	I know that.
	Years and years ago when I first got on the air.
	And they were doing the history of D.C.
	and how they built it.
	You can go research this online.
	The main architect was a big mason, and it is set up in an occult fashion.
	So there's no debate of that.
	So it's incredible.
	Right in our face.
	It is right in our face.
	But, you know, what are you going to do?
	I guess you can just get folks who try to notice it.
	Right.
	Anything else?
	No, that's all I had.
	Thanks.
	Okay, thank you.
	You bet.
	We'll continue rolling with your calls into the next hour, and I have covered about a third of the stack of news here.
	And I've got a recap of other top stories coming up.
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	Go ahead, Ron in Oklahoma.
	Alex, the FBI simply doesn't have the assets to invest like Dr. Khan in Pakistan when they've got all their assets tied up in Oklahoma City.
	Sounds like you got a cold, but speak up for me.
	I'm sorry, I do.
	I'm a horse or cow or something.
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	Yeah, go ahead.
	Okay.
	Here in Oklahoma City, yes, the U.S.
	Drug Enforcement Agent with guns drawn in full view of his family members
	Mistakenly restrained and took down Sean Baker, who is a criminal justice investigator and police investigator, next executive board member of the Oklahoma City NAACP.
	This was all a big mistake.
	They were looking for somebody else, but they took this guy down in full view of his family.
	Well, you know what's happening more and more is a cop's daughter in Texas...
	Goes to Miami for vacation, gets raped by cops, you know, a politician's wife at the big Michigan-Detroit airport has her $10,000 diamond necklace grabbed by a laughing, you know, foreigner who's at security station.
	I mean, this is all happening.
	And it's happening more and more and more.
	So these guys are getting their own medicine.
	And, you know, too bad it's happening to them, but, you know, this is what goes on.
	Well, also, Alex, here in Oklahoma City, we have a DynCorp operation, Pinker Air Force Base.
	Alex, I've been on property out there.
	You can have to sneak up on those people to catch them working, and then it's almost impossible.
	I'd like to know what's going on.
	Well, DynCorp was convicted in the civil court of kidnapping 200,000 women and children in 2000 alone.
	I don't know.
	But they got all the big Iraq contracts.
	They're good folks.
	They're the people out arresting Iraqis who don't wear RFID bracelets to have any job anywhere, street market, you name it.
	You've got to be Halliburton approved and pay a percentage of your money to them.
	I have to assume they get a percentage on each employee they hire.
	That's where they make their money.
	Well, it's all about slavery.
	I don't know.
	A dying corps is a government operation.
	Also, Alex, when you tell a lie, make it big, repeat it often for most people,
	Yeah, Bush releases his military records and they show he was AWOL.
	And he says, see, I'm not AWOL.
	Well, the reporter that put the story out, the story's been proven to be accurate, he died in a bathtub.
	I was going to ask Greg Palast how many threats he gets.
	Thanks for the call, Ron.
	Thank you.
	We've got a break now.
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	Well, it happened again on Tuesday.
	Last week, the racist, American-hating Mexicans...
	Down in Mexico, booed the star-spangled banner before the Olympic soccer game qualifying tournament.
	They then chatted Osama, Osama, Osama, drowning out even the other crowd noise.
	And it happened again on Tuesday where the Americans lost.
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	And what does Bush, his business partner Bin Laden, and racist Mexicans have in common?
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	We'll get back into that.
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	They're always interesting.
	Let's talk to Ron in New York, and we'll go to Sean, Chris, Tim, Kurt, and others.
	Go ahead, Ron in New York.
	Hello, Alex.
	Alex, I'd like to mention three things, very interesting things.
	In our local newspaper, New York Newsday here in New York, in the early part of this month, there was an article in there written by an investigative journalist named Curtis Taylor
	It dealt with how municipal pension funds, of which I'm a member of, may have been depositing, the local controller in New York City may have been depositing money in banks that turned around and gave Saddam Hussein credit throughout the years.
	Yeah, that goes back to BCCI and that whole private cash machine.
	Gets better, Alex.
	So I called this journalist up.
	I spoke with him personally.
	And he said yes, and that the control of New York City was now addressing that problem.
	However, in the course of that conversation, he told me that in his investigation, it came out, he was chuckling as he was saying it, because he thought it was, you know, so outrageous in a way, it's like, how could people be so stupid?
	American businessmen, American businessmen, since the first Gulf War, formed offshore corporations, and they were doing business with Saddam Hussein right up to the last minute.
	Buying oil from him.
	American businessmen forming like Caribbean corporations.
	Look, for those that just joined us, everything that our caller Ron is saying, I already have the mainstream news articles on it.
	The average person just never hears about it.
	Let me explain the magnitude of this.
	The way the sanctions were written by the Security Council, controlled by the bankers in New York,
	Was that Saddam couldn't buy anything or sell anything but through them, namely Dick Cheney and James Baker and just a few dozen others.
	And so right up until a month before the invasion, during the troop buildup, during the troop buildup,
	He could only buy oil-filled equipment, weapons components, you name it, from Dick Cheney and others.
	And then they stand up and talk about how evil Saddam is and how anybody who trades with the enemy has got to be arrested.
	And there they are, whether it's al-Qaeda, Saddam, Pakistan, everything.
	And they take your pension money to do it.
	And the funny part about it is, Alex, instead of them checking out these so-called American businessmen, they're hassling young guys who are jogging across a crosswalk and worried about the patriotism of simple people like that and old grannies and so forth.
	Now, the second story I have is from a civil service journal here in New York called The Chief.
	The New York City Council voted 36 to 13 with one abstention to pass a resolution that
	They had a rally when they announced the result of this vote, and at this rally was a woman who belongs to a group called Peaceful Tomorrow.
	It's an anti-war group which consists of families of people killed in the September 11th attack.
	This woman in particular, Adelaide Welty, her son was a fireman killed in the Twin Towers.
	And we have the organizer of that on first hour.
	So my point is you can't accuse this woman of being a communist subversive.
	She gave her son up to those efforts, okay?
	He lost his life.
	And she made this statement, and I think it was a very brave thing for her to say and do.
	She indicated that the administration is using American fears of further terrorist attacks, and this is a quote, to push its agenda for regime change abroad and repression at home.
	And this is what this woman said.
	I think it's time that we have to take heed to what's going on.
	And lastly, Alex, I'd just like to mention, maybe it would be a great guest to have on your show.
	It's a male-female group.
	They're on the Pacifica Network.
	They do a show testing... Just email me the info.
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	All right, we have loaded phone lines and absolute news blitz of key information.
	A recap of top stories at the end of the show as well.
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	We've got loaded phone lines here.
	But before I go, back to callers in order, Sean and Chris and Tim and Kurt and others, I've got a rule.
	If you disagree with me, you go to the front of the line.
	Number one, we don't screen calls here.
	We just say, what are you calling about in case you disagree?
	We ask, where are you calling from, your first name?
	And, hey, sometimes we ask, well, what are you calling about?
	Because we want to know if you disagree.
	We asked Richard in Texas, what do you want to talk about?
	And he said, I disagree with Alex about his racist attitude towards Mexicans.
	Before I go to Richard, let me just explain this.
	If you go back and listen to what I said, maybe he's a new listener, is that I have a lot of Hispanic friends, they're the most highly decorated statistically people in our military, Congressional Medal of Honor winners, all that.
	I said racist Mexicans...
	In Mexico, in Guadalajara, and in another soccer match, booed the Star Spangled Banner and chanted Osama, Osama, Osama.
	And yeah, they're racist.
	Now, I have gone to the Metro website.
	I've read their quotes.
	I've shown video of them with signs of people, white people's heads cut off, saying we're going to kill the white man.
	Now, that's racism.
	Now, I've gone out and bullhorned the Klan, and I've gone out and bullhorned Metro.
	And last time I checked, I didn't see white people starting groups called The Race.
	I mean, this is getting to be out of control.
	La Raza.
	And this political correctness that if you criticize, you know, groups... I mean, Khalid Muhammad says kill all white people, kill all white women, kill all babies.
	I've played the clip here many times.
	Every nine months, the white woman lays down on her back and out rolls reinforcement.
	Why do you say kill a little blue-eyed baby?
	Because that little white devil's going to grow up and we've got to kill them all!
	I mean, that's racism!
	And I'm sick of it, and I will stand up against it!
	Now, let's go to Richard in Texas.
	Go ahead, Richard.
	Well, thanks for putting me at the front of the line, and I can't really disagree with your previous tirade to a whole lot.
	My point is this.
	Although
	There is racism in every group of people.
	The white woman is the military manufacturing center!
	Whatever.
	I know Mexicans.
	I've traveled into Mexico a number of times.
	I speak passable Spanish.
	I'm, you know, I'm white as a Klansman, except I couldn't stand to be one of them.
	Okay, well, who do you think's Channing Osama?
	The Easter Bunny?
	The people that are being inspired by the American government.
	What I'm saying here is the problem... All I know is when I'm eating somewhere, the Mexicans... Can I speak?
	Hold on just a second.
	Hold on a second.
	Hold on a second.
	I talk just like this on my TV show here in Austin, and all I know is that every time I eat at a Mexican food restaurant, my food's paid for.
	Okay?
	I mean, I just... Look, Mexicans who are patriotic and American know I'm telling the truth because they're around it.
	And that's the truth, my friend.
	Okay, if I could speak just a little bit.
	Okay, go ahead.
	Talk.
	Your statements about the racism and all of this sort of stuff that, you know, is anti-American, you're reflecting only a minority of the Mexican attitude that's been inspired by U.S.
	government stuff.
	Okay?
	Okay.
	Well, I've got to agree with it.
	Make your point, and then I'll comment.
	Okay, I think what I'm saying is it's counterproductive to say that.
	There are reasons that a lot of Mexicans dislike the American government.
	I mean, we took over what was their supposed territory.
	Here, let's be clear on that.
	My ancestors did.
	Well, mine did, too.
	I'm white as the day is long.
	Sir, sir, sir, sir, sir.
	There's a whole lot of people with brown skin walking around here who took it away from them, too.
	You know who wrote the Texas Constitution?
	Well, I know who wrote the Mexican Constitution in 1821.
	But do you know who wrote the Constitution?
	A third of our force was Tejanos.
	I agree with you.
	Hey, I'm not arguing with you, Alex.
	Go ahead.
	Ah!
	I'm trying to make a point here, okay?
	But Mexicans are not racist.
	I've traveled down there in two different ways.
	That's like saying white people aren't racist.
	Because you're not racist, you don't think there aren't whites that aren't racist?
	Some are, but I'm not trying to argue.
	I'm trying to make a point.
	There have been bad things done to almost all of the Latin Americans by the American government.
	And...
	A lot of them have resentment about that.
	For good reason.
	Are you familiar with provisions of the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo?
	Yeah, I'm familiar with it.
	I've read it.
	Okay.
	Do you know one of the things that it said when we took over basically New Mexico and Arizona?
	Well, let's see what you say is true.
	Go ahead.
	Is that basically the...
	Spanish and Mexican land grants for land there would be honored by the American government.
	That is, those who held the land would also be able to hold it under American provision.
	The first thing that happened as soon as it was taken over, and it took some time, but as soon as we moved in there... Make your point.
	I've got to move on.
	They started taking the land back from these people.
	The other thing that I want to make one other point...
	Is that we have messed in Central American and Mexican politics negatively ever since this country has been in existence.
	Okay, thank you for the call.
	I appreciate it.
	I've got a bunch of callers, and I've got many guests I've got to get on here.
	But let me just say this.
	I'm not going to defend things that the government has done.
	But our government compared to the Mexican government under Santa Ana and those that came after him were saints.
	You can't own land in Mexico.
	It's a tiny fraction, just a few hundred families that own almost all of it.
	Okay, now, Mexico can come up here and own land.
	And what you just said isn't true, because in South Texas, almost all the richest families in Southwest Texas all have Spanish surnames, and they were Tejanos.
	And they own the businesses.
	They own hundreds of thousands of acres.
	It's just not true.
	Now, were there range wars?
	Did white people get run off land?
	Did Mexicans get run off land?
	Absolutely.
	That did go on, and that happened to everybody.
	But Mexico, and most of the Mexicans I talk to who are illegals, and my wife speaks Spanish, she speaks German, she speaks French, she speaks it all.
	Her dad was a diplomat.
	She grew up in Europe.
	She hears the comments.
	She knows what's going on.
	I'm not talking about the Mexican peasants, the hard-working, nice Christian people.
	I'm talking about those out of the colleges and the people that are out there organizing and printing up the comic books and all the stuff that puts out this lie.
	That's what I'm saying.
	And Mexico, the French...
	The Russians tried to claim part of this country.
	Everybody was grabbing it.
	It belonged to the Indians.
	Native Americans.
	It didn't belong to Mexico.
	It didn't belong to us.
	And for Mexico to say the Southwest belongs to them, and to have South Texas towns flying the Mexican flag and no American flag, and saying you can't speak English in court proceedings, and the documents are in Spanish, that's wrong.
	And there's a Lurican Quista going on.
	A reconquering.
	And that New York runs it because they want to break this country up.
	Now, that's the fact.
	Is Latin America mad because the CIA overthrows their governments and kills people in death squads?
	Is that wrong?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
	But many times their corrupt governments blame everything on the U.S.
	government and use that as a tool of control.
	And I'm saying we've got a big group of people that don't like America pouring in here.
	Now, that's the facts.
	All right, we're going to go to the loaded phones, but I appreciate Jim Shepard holding for the last eight minutes.
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	It's a pleasure.
	By the way, I was listening to your previous caller, and I'd like to make just a couple points on that.
	First of all, the land grants were not revoked.
	In Colorado and New Mexico, there are large land grants.
	That predate these territories being annexed into the United States.
	One of them that comes to mind is the Baca land grant.
	I really didn't quite follow what the caller was saying on that.
	Now, I think that he did make two good points.
	I think that one of the points he was trying to make was that the government, that the people down there can probably distinguish the difference between the government and the people
	And then I would make one other point.
	In my travels in Mexico, what I found was that, especially the border towns and then the large cities like Mexico City, man, I'll tell you what, there are some of those people that will kill you for two pesos in your pocket.
	And then you get out in the rural areas, and they are some of the kindest people that you will ever meet.
	Well, that's the point I was making.
	That's the point I was making is you've got...
	I'd say half the Mexicans hate America.
	I'm talking about the ones in Mexico, and the other half are good people.
	I mean, you know, this is a fact, folks.
	And, you know, it's just been my observation that when you get into the large cities, and, of course, that's probably true here in the United States, too.
	You get in the large cities, and people tend to be a little bit more keyed up than country folk.
	But for me, it was absolutely stark, the difference.
	You know, my first impression of Mexico was the border towns.
	And it scared me to death, and I got down in there 500,000 miles down, and I could not believe how kind and genuine and good-natured these people were.
	And I think that you made a good point also with respect to the government systems.
	Unfortunately, in Latin America, there's always been a patronage system where when somebody gets into office, the first people they take care of is family.
	And unfortunately, that breeds corruption.
	And God bless those people that live under those governmental systems that have patronage down there.
	That's one thing that we have not had to deal with here in the United States, and I think that's one of the reasons why we have been so prosperous.
	Well, that's it.
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	Sean in Rhode Island.
	Sean, thanks for holding her on the air.
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	Good.
	Love your show.
	I just want to make a couple points.
	Well, thank you.
	I want to say America.
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	You're making a good point.
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	That's what the New World Order is.
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	Let me just briefly mention this article.
	This is out of the Hindustan Times.
	Got a bunch of other stories here.
	Russia launches nuclear war games.
	Russia notified the United States on Tuesday that it has launched war games that involve the test launch of intercontinental missiles and flights by its heavy nuclear bombers.
	Deputy Chief of Staff General Yuri Bolovansky
	...stress that the exercises are being conducted, quote, in order to prevent aggression and military pressure being applied to Russia.
	And by the way, about a year ago, the BBC reported they put all the red stars and peppers and sickles back on the aircraft and tanks.
	That's our little friends.
	But don't worry.
	We've got all the colleges watched and the borders open and citizens being tracked and traced.
	Don't worry.
	Pakistan's arming everyone, but...
	Our governments are in North Korea.
	But again, don't worry.
	Just give your rights up.
	Let the police wear black ski masks and put cameras up in the schools.
	Going back to Sean in Rhode Island.
	Yeah, the New World Order is a handful of families who run their own hereditary organized crime syndicates over different sectors of the economy.
	And they have their own little criminal gangs that work for them.
	And it's the same psychology.
	Go ahead and finish up, Sean.
	Basically, I just want to
	Say that and let that be out in the open for people who was blind to the fact of that.
	I just really wanted to call to put out a couple little things here.
	And I just want to make this other two more points and I'm going to let you be.
	I want to let people know, if you ever look to America for something, look at this.
	There's gangs in America.
	There's Bloods, there's Crips, there's all kinds of gangs.
	Somebody shoots somebody who's somebody's family member.
	There's going to be a retaliation.
	America is the same way.
	But ain't nobody killed anybody that belongs to America.
	If somebody drops a bomb in Pakistan, America's going to go over there and show them who the real killers are.
	All right, thanks for the call.
	And when you say America, I want to make it clear.
	Criminal elements using America as its shield.
	Let's go ahead and go to Chris in North Carolina.
	Go ahead.
	Good.
	Thank you for taking my call.
	How you doing, Alex?
	I appreciate all the good work that you're doing every time I call.
	Thank you very much.
	I appreciate the great palace interview today, too.
	Something happened here in North Carolina yesterday that has got me absolutely fired, slapped to the pit of my bean.
	In Raleigh, the capital city here, we had an 18-wheeler turnover yesterday in the middle of town.
	The 18-wheeler was reportedly carrying military arms.
	Our military arms.
	It's not getting any national coverage.
	I have called local talk shows here, supposedly conservative edges.
	They won't talk about it.
	I can't get any information from anyone as to where the truck was going, what its destination was, what route it was supposed to be taking.
	This thing shut down a half-mile radius all the way around the crash site.
	In town.
	We're not talking about on a highway.
	Not that that would have been bad enough or whatever.
	But have you seen reports of this?
	Do you know why we would be using 18-wheelers to transport military weapons through major cities in North Carolina?
	I mean, this is subcontracted out 18-wheelers.
	Well, was this a side street or a major highway?
	No, this was through the middle of town.
	I mean, Alex, how hot do you have to be to get...
	I mean, that's just from people.
	I mean, now, to a lot of people, this might not sound like a whole lot.
	All you say is that it was weapons.
	You want to know what type of weapons.
	Well, I know that it was shells, because you could see them from the video cameras on the 6 o'clock news last night.
	But they won't tell what kind of shells, you know, what kind of armament was... Well, I know in Alabama, they've been burning up all the old chemical weapons shells, but I...
	I don't know.
	I need some information.
	I mean, I think they should tell us.
	All right.
	I have called WTVD 11, one of the local television stations here, and I'm supposed to be able to get video footage of that through that, or through their organization.
	Now, here locally, about 40 miles northeast of Raleigh, they're about.
	Count Butner, an old World War II Count Butner,
	It's, for the most part, shut down now.
	It has really no military use available to it now at this point in time.
	We are turning up, I guess, on an average of about 50 to 75 shells per year that were buried there for training during World War II.
	Now, that in and of itself is bad enough, being that
	The local economy here for a little while was seemingly good in terms of people being able to refinance and build homes.
	How are shells buried in an old munitions area?
	How is that tied into the economy?
	Well, that's what I'm getting ready to talk about.
	The shells being buried in the old Camp Butner area, the economy that was good that produced...
	Well, I say good.
	The economy that produced financing low enough to get homes bought, land paid for, that kind of thing, built right on top of old Camp Butner.
	So in the back of people's yard, here we go digging up water rounds and so forth.
	Here locally, I don't know, maybe it's just my crazy mind working.
	I'm kind of a little bit perturbed about the whole shale issue.
	We deal with this out here in this area enough.
	And now we've got trucks turning over in the capital city, turning around bombs.
	What do you do?
	Who do you talk to?
	Well, I agree.
	They're not supposed to have big, live ordinance driving around the middle of cities.
	And you need to complain so they don't do that.
	And I appreciate the call.
	I understand your concern.
	Let's go ahead and talk to Tim in Ohio.
	Tim, go ahead.
	Alex, always a pleasure.
	I feel your pain.
	I...
	Try to tell people every day.
	It's like, you know, we are on borrowed time.
	I know that the New World Order's work is pre-Cambrian.
	They say I'm a right-wing extremist now.
	Anyway, it's tax time again.
	And I was wondering if you were going to have maybe Bob Schultz or Erwin Schiff on the show?
	Yeah, I should do that.
	And also, I was reading somewhere where, first of all, I loved your video when you went in and you asked GW about
	The Federal Reserve and the Council on Foreign Relations when they kidnapped you?
	Yes.
	Now, I was reading somewhere where the Federal Reserve can actually be bought out for $4 million or $1 billion.
	I can't remember which one it is.
	$4 million or $4 billion.
	It's actually written into the Banking Act of 1913.
	Yeah, but the Treasury and the Congress has to agree to that.
	And so, I mean, that's all the old laws.
	I mean, they're not about to give it up.
	I mean, sure, they have that clause in there, but that's for them.
	They're not going to sell it to you.
	Right.
	There's one way that we could, because that would just bring them to a grinding halt.
	Take their money away.
	Well, you don't think these criminals are just going to turn loose of things, do you?
	Not at all.
	You have to educate enough people for that process to begin.
	Right.
	That's what I would follow Bob or Erwin.
	Erwin's book, The Federal Mafia, is a great read.
	It is.
	And I must admit, I'm guilty of working for government, industry, the media, and education, and
	The BS got so high in each one of those, I got out of them, and each time I got out of the pan and into the fire.
	So I don't know where I'm going to go next.
	I told you a couple weeks ago I started my own organization, Truth, teaching and researching United States treasonous hierarchy.
	Well, that's good.
	This weekend, we are going to be going around to the different tax preparers, and we're going to have little cards, and we're going to be handing them out to people going into the tax preparers.
	That asks them to ask their tax preparer,
	Where does it say we have to pay?
	Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	Four simple questions.
	And I would encourage other people to do that, too, around their area because it's public property.
	You can stand out in front of these buildings.
	You can hand things out to people going in there.
	They can put the pressure on these places.
	Thank you for the call, Tim.
	Great.
	Good to hear you're doing that.
	Pat?
	Okay.
	Who's up next?
	Leslie in Virginia.
	Leslie, you go ahead.
	I was about to go to Pat, but they hung up.
	Okay.
	Thanks, Alex, for taking my call.
	I was listening to your callers, and I agree with all of them.
	However, I think a lot of dissension has been directly the cause and effect is with the World Bank and IMF.
	And as you know, there is no, or if any, little oversight, except for when they come to Congress and beg for some more money.
	We're talking about over $200 billion within five years to the International Monetary Fund alone.
	What they do is they go to these Central American countries and South American countries.
	I'm just giving you examples.
	And they don't understand why the people outrage with this country.
	I mean, this crowd does not... Well, yeah, in 1973, the IMF told the 50 most populous third world countries, they told them, you have to sterilize half your women forcibly or no more IMF or World Bank money.
	So absolutely.
	That's right.
	And that's just one example of many and how these loans are made.
	And, I mean, it's extortion in my book.
	Well, they take our money that's fiat to begin with, backed up by our debt.
	Then they go give it to dictators, tell them, and this has come out in World Bank and IMF documents, not to pay it back.
	They sign contracts signing the people, the land, the resources over to the globalists.
	Bingo.
	You got it.
	And these people can't understand why.
	People are very upset with Americans.
	I mean, these globalists need to be put on notice.
	IMF needs to be abolished, Alex.
	Well, the globalists have been, again, using America as their front, that America gets demonized and the American people get demonized.
	It's not really America doing it.
	That's correct.
	We were this free, strong, wealthy country.
	The globalists took over, have used our wealth, our energy, our minds,
	To dominate the world, and now they're dumbing us down and taking our jobs and making us third world serfs as well.
	You got it, Alex, and the people need to wise up.
	IMF needs to be abolished, and I suggest that your listeners please call Congress and get this.
	A corrupt cabal abolished once and for all.
	Well, they're the owners of the Federal Reserve.
	Thanks for the call.
	They still need to be abolished.
	Thank you.
	Yeah, thank you.
	And then it's the same bankers funding the textbooks and the comic books and the pamphlets in Mexico saying the Southwest belongs to Mexico because they want to use these people to break the country down when they're the ones raping them.
	That's the point I was trying to make earlier.
	Who was he?
	Richard from Texas?
	All right, let me dive, and I mean dive, into the news here in the last 15 minutes, as promised.
	More news, and I'll recap some of the top stories at the very end of the show.
	CNN money.
	Jobless claims rise.
	New weekly claims for unemployment come in unexpectedly higher than Wall Street forecast.
	Now remember, 2 million people in the last three weeks have gone off their unemployment roll.
	They're no longer counted as unemployed.
	And then Bush says, oh, less unemployment.
	New job claims rose in the United States last week.
	The Labor Department said 363,000 people filed new claims for state unemployment benefits in the week that ends February 7th, up from a revised 357,000 the prior week economists on average expected 345,000 new claims according to the briefing.
	The four-week moving average of new claims, which irons out the volatility of the weekly data, rose to 350,500 from a revised 345,500 the prior week.
	Continued claims, the number of people out of work for a week or more fell to 3.08 million for the week ending January 31st.
	The latest data available from the revised 3.1 million the prior week.
	So, they're saying only a few hundred thousand people.
	Unemployment's gone down by a few hundred thousand, but then we've got millions going off the rolls as they cook the books.
	This is out of the Herald Tribune.
	Associated Press, South Carolina.
	Columbia, South Carolina.
	Panel approves plan to monitor all prescription drug sales.
	Now again, all over the country, the
	Pharmacies are already doing this, but now they're codifying it state by state, but it's federally funded.
	The state would maintain a database of prescription drugs sold in the state, and who bought them under a measure a House budget panel approved Wednesday?
	House Majority Leader Rick Quinn, Republican Columbia, won approval for the database as a way and means committee wrapped up a work on temporary law changes that will be put on the state budget.
	Quinn told a panel that the database operated by the State Department of Health and Environmental Control would help cut down prescription drug abuses.
	For instance, he said, police would be able to catch people who visit multiple doctors for treatment of the same malady and get prescription drugs and then resell them.
	The legislation affects Schedule II through V-drugs, those are the harshest legal narcotics, such as morphine, down to cough syrups and codeine.
	So there you go.
	It seems very overreaching for the government to be tracking prescription drugs use of all health care recipients in our state, said Sue Berkowitz, Executive Director of the South Carolina Legal Justice Center.
	The budget amendment says different groups could access the data.
	Pharmacists for the prescriptions they issue, patients for the prescriptions they receive, state regulators investigating pharmacists, grand jury for the subpoena, law officers investigating abuse of illegal drugs.
	Of legal drugs, excuse me.
	So now police without a warrant, just a big database.
	That cop doesn't like you next door.
	Wants to find out what's going on, just type it right into the database.
	Oh, that's just what they're telling you about it.
	Quinn's proposal requires no subpoena or warrant for law enforcement access for the information people who...
	Improperly disclosed data information face a fine of more than $5,000.
	Law-abiding citizens should not have their records gone through just because law enforcement wants to check them, Berkowitz said.
	Has nothing to do with terrorism, but it's all part of the terrorism of the globalists centralizing control and part of the matrix system.
	And that's not a movie, that's the system.
	Senators push two-year internet tax ban.
	That's good news.
	Senators opposed to a bill to permanently ban Internet access taxes.
	U.S.
	See, it sounds good on the surface.
	Unveiled rival legislation on Wednesday for a temporary tax moratorium that would not threaten state and local revenues.
	Folks, there's not a tax on a Sears Roebuck catalog.
	They say, oh, well, any other new catalog, anything out of state, you've got to pay taxes.
	And a lot of companies are already doing it.
	Very bad.
	And can you imagine having to keep track of that?
	Just amazing.
	Feds back off case targeting anti-war activists.
	Civil liberties groups Tuesday hailed the withdrawal of subpoenas issued last week before peace activists by federal prosecutors in Des Moines, Iowa as a significant victory, but instead the government must explain why they were issued in the first place.
	We're good to go.
	...tried yesterday to end the discussion surrounding his five-day disappearance.
	In an interview with the Echo of Moscow Radio, the Kremlin hinted that the blame lay on the security services for indirectly frightening him into hiding and for not telling the country where he was.
	Remkin announced that he was taking time out to decide whether to abandon his candidacy in the election of March 14th.
	President Vladimir Putin is widely expected to win.
	So it looks like a staged event.
	Pig lard to stop terror attacks.
	This is out of the news of Australia.
	And I'd heard the French did this when they had Muslims bombing them back in the 40s and 50s and 60s, that they would ladle out pig lard up and down the rocks, the rock beds supporting the tracks, because if one of these Muslims thought that they bombed it, a rock hit them, they wouldn't get into heaven.
	Israeli police have come up with plans to place bags of pig lard on buses in a bid to deter Palestinian militants from carrying out suicide attacks.
	The Marav Daily reported.
	I'll tell you more about that and a bunch of other really serious news when we get back.
	Stay with us.
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	Oh, this pig lard to stop terror attacks.
	Rabbinical authorities have given the idea its approval on the grounds that it could be a life-saving measure even though pigs are considered impure to Jews as well as Muslims, and they're talking about putting pig lard in schools everywhere.
	Bags of pig lard.
	I've read the French did this.
	I'd like to hear from some Muslims.
	Maybe the Mara.
	Is it true that you're so afraid of a pig that that's true?
	Because I've read that and heard that.
	I guess it is true.
	That's amazing.
	Rumsfeld draws back on Blair's 45-minute claim, ABC News, and
	He now says, I don't remember the statement being made, to be perfectly honest, when I was still at the Pentagon News Conference.
	So he's now basically saying he never said that.
	I've got him on video.
	I had VCRs running for weeks leading up to the Iraq War, during the Iraq War.
	Just more, I don't remember saying that.
	Never said that.
	Pentagon cooking the casualty counts.
	American Free Press, there's a lot of mainstream articles on this.
	It's in the thousands.
	It's in the thousands in Iraq.
	It's in the thousands in Afghanistan.
	And it's in the hundreds worldwide.
	In the hundreds in the Philippines.
	It's just horrible.
	French lawmakers strike over criminal justice bill.
	And French lawyers went on strike Wednesday as a permanent...
	Parliament prepared to enact a new criminal justice law that many fear would undermine civil liberties and strengthen police powers, lengthening detention periods, and introducing plea bargaining.
	And they're basically enacting the same police state measures that England and the U.S.
	are.
	It's the same thing worldwide.
	The French aren't against the globalists.
	They're all in it together.
	So that's serious as well.
	I'm out of time.
	Boy, that show just exploded.
	We'll be back tonight, 9 to midnight Central Standard Time, right here on this same fine station you're listening to us on, whether it's AM, FM, shortwave, internet.
	And we've got more great guests coming up tomorrow, and some huge guests that we've lined up for next week.
	So thank you for listening to this live Thursday edition, the 12th of February, 2004.
	And thanks to our affiliates, our sponsors, our listeners, and number one, God.
	And please help us get the word out and fight the globalists and realize that we don't have a choice.
	I guess we do.
	Submit to this and be slaves or stand up and fight it.
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